1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:01,280 Speaker 1: First of all, you don't know. 2 00:00:02,920 --> 00:00:06,439 Speaker 2: All about that high school drama. Girl drama, girl, all about. 3 00:00:06,160 --> 00:00:08,119 Speaker 3: Them high school queens. 4 00:00:08,160 --> 00:00:10,920 Speaker 4: We'll take you for a ride, and our comic girl 5 00:00:11,080 --> 00:00:12,680 Speaker 4: sharing for the right teams. 6 00:00:12,440 --> 00:00:16,720 Speaker 5: Drama Queens, my girl girl fashion, but your tough girl, you. 7 00:00:16,680 --> 00:00:17,480 Speaker 3: Could sit with us. 8 00:00:17,520 --> 00:00:25,759 Speaker 1: Girl drama, Queens Drama, Queens Drama, Queens Drama, Drama, Queens drama, Queens. 9 00:00:28,600 --> 00:00:33,000 Speaker 6: Guys, did we just become an action movie? 10 00:00:33,600 --> 00:00:34,200 Speaker 2: We did? 11 00:00:36,080 --> 00:00:38,880 Speaker 3: My stomach was enoughts this whole episode? 12 00:00:39,400 --> 00:00:41,400 Speaker 2: We really did you not remember? 13 00:00:42,000 --> 00:00:42,320 Speaker 3: No? 14 00:00:43,400 --> 00:00:43,680 Speaker 2: Oh? 15 00:00:44,080 --> 00:00:48,160 Speaker 3: Fun I did not? Yeah, well Rob you, oh yeah, 16 00:00:48,159 --> 00:00:50,200 Speaker 3: because well you were in it, but you were watching 17 00:00:50,240 --> 00:00:52,280 Speaker 3: any of these so we none of us have seen 18 00:00:52,320 --> 00:00:56,560 Speaker 3: these since? No oh? I mean this episode was the 19 00:00:56,880 --> 00:00:58,920 Speaker 3: our men are movie Stars episode? 20 00:00:59,200 --> 00:01:00,560 Speaker 2: Yes for sure? 21 00:01:00,840 --> 00:01:03,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, every in every way, like Rob you sitting by 22 00:01:03,920 --> 00:01:06,400 Speaker 3: Sarah's grave, Oh my god, in that suit. It was 23 00:01:06,800 --> 00:01:10,560 Speaker 3: such old movie star vibes. I was dying. It was 24 00:01:10,600 --> 00:01:12,280 Speaker 3: also good. Wait, somebody read the synopsis. 25 00:01:12,360 --> 00:01:14,720 Speaker 4: Okay, okay, okay, okay, hold on before we dive in 26 00:01:15,680 --> 00:01:19,120 Speaker 4: season nine episode Hardcore Will Never Die, But You will. 27 00:01:20,600 --> 00:01:25,680 Speaker 4: That deserves a dundun air date March fourteenth, twenty twelve. 28 00:01:26,480 --> 00:01:29,119 Speaker 4: This is so crazy that these episodes were airing after 29 00:01:29,160 --> 00:01:30,479 Speaker 4: we'd all left Wilmington. 30 00:01:30,640 --> 00:01:33,399 Speaker 2: By the way, whoa oh yeah. 31 00:01:33,040 --> 00:01:35,640 Speaker 4: Okay, okay, sorry. Back to the synopsis. Dan Julian and 32 00:01:35,680 --> 00:01:39,880 Speaker 4: Chris Keller attempt to rescue Nathan Brooks. Conflict with Xavier escalates, 33 00:01:39,959 --> 00:01:45,000 Speaker 4: Quinn and Clay revisit the past. This was so wild, 34 00:01:46,240 --> 00:01:50,160 Speaker 4: total bridle on a shark. But I loved it. 35 00:01:51,200 --> 00:01:55,320 Speaker 3: I loved it. I loved every second, even the seconds 36 00:01:55,320 --> 00:01:57,080 Speaker 3: that I hated, like all this stuff with Brooke that 37 00:01:57,160 --> 00:02:00,760 Speaker 3: was so hard to wash. But I just was so 38 00:02:00,920 --> 00:02:03,400 Speaker 3: proud of us and how we wait, we got through 39 00:02:03,440 --> 00:02:06,600 Speaker 3: all of it. I mean, we'll hit every point, but wow, wow, wow, wow, 40 00:02:06,640 --> 00:02:06,920 Speaker 3: what a. 41 00:02:06,840 --> 00:02:10,239 Speaker 4: Great To your point though about all of that, I 42 00:02:10,800 --> 00:02:13,600 Speaker 4: know now one moment that shocked you near the end 43 00:02:13,639 --> 00:02:18,800 Speaker 4: because you didn't remember what was happening. There was a 44 00:02:18,840 --> 00:02:22,280 Speaker 4: beat that we'll get to, but you'll know where. I 45 00:02:22,440 --> 00:02:24,040 Speaker 4: was like, oh my god, I would kill to be 46 00:02:24,080 --> 00:02:26,400 Speaker 4: seeing this as an audience member who doesn't know that's 47 00:02:26,440 --> 00:02:30,040 Speaker 4: a bait and switch, because I thought about the feeling 48 00:02:30,200 --> 00:02:36,160 Speaker 4: of like no, and just every single bit of the episode, 49 00:02:36,200 --> 00:02:39,160 Speaker 4: to your point, was done so well, from. 50 00:02:39,080 --> 00:02:42,239 Speaker 2: Action movie to like rom com leading man. 51 00:02:42,200 --> 00:02:45,200 Speaker 4: Rob, I had the same vibe for you at Sarah's grave, 52 00:02:46,440 --> 00:02:46,760 Speaker 4: and I. 53 00:02:46,960 --> 00:02:49,959 Speaker 2: Just the whole time was like, God, this is great. 54 00:02:50,400 --> 00:02:52,440 Speaker 4: Every single one of these people is great. All these 55 00:02:52,480 --> 00:02:56,280 Speaker 4: directing choices are great. It was so much fun to 56 00:02:56,400 --> 00:02:59,880 Speaker 4: watch this episode and be surprised by some things and 57 00:03:00,400 --> 00:03:02,480 Speaker 4: wish that I was seeing. 58 00:03:02,240 --> 00:03:04,160 Speaker 2: It for the first time and other my. 59 00:03:04,160 --> 00:03:06,480 Speaker 3: Brain, what's happened to me? Because I remember a moment 60 00:03:06,480 --> 00:03:09,079 Speaker 3: where I audibly gasped I was not expected, but I 61 00:03:09,120 --> 00:03:10,160 Speaker 3: can't remember what it was now. 62 00:03:10,280 --> 00:03:13,000 Speaker 4: It's when you think Nathan gets shot, and then it's Dimitri, 63 00:03:13,320 --> 00:03:15,919 Speaker 4: oh yeah in the chair, thinking like, oh my god, 64 00:03:15,960 --> 00:03:19,480 Speaker 4: they just killed him like as revenge, and I literally 65 00:03:19,639 --> 00:03:21,440 Speaker 4: was like God, that must have been so fun for 66 00:03:21,480 --> 00:03:22,440 Speaker 4: the audience to watch a. 67 00:03:22,480 --> 00:03:22,880 Speaker 3: Thing it was. 68 00:03:23,160 --> 00:03:28,639 Speaker 6: Then, yeah, I loved that. The whole episode was great. Right, However, 69 00:03:29,600 --> 00:03:32,360 Speaker 6: the logic police broke down the door for me on 70 00:03:32,400 --> 00:03:35,680 Speaker 6: that one because I was I found myself going we 71 00:03:35,720 --> 00:03:40,600 Speaker 6: watched Dan walk in by himself, and then we watched 72 00:03:40,640 --> 00:03:43,760 Speaker 6: Dan walk in holding nothing but a gun, and I'm like, 73 00:03:44,240 --> 00:03:46,280 Speaker 6: so I loved the idea, but then and then you 74 00:03:46,320 --> 00:03:48,360 Speaker 6: could tell they tried to do the band aid fix 75 00:03:48,400 --> 00:03:51,080 Speaker 6: of Dan going yeah, I carried that drug dealer, and 76 00:03:51,160 --> 00:03:54,240 Speaker 6: ally myself, I'm like, so we just did to catch 77 00:03:54,280 --> 00:03:57,400 Speaker 6: the moments you set him down, and then like, yeah, 78 00:03:57,440 --> 00:04:00,200 Speaker 6: that was the one part where I'm like, come on, did. 79 00:04:00,160 --> 00:04:03,160 Speaker 3: A couple extra shots to explain that? Yes, just a 80 00:04:03,200 --> 00:04:06,320 Speaker 3: few Yes, even if Chris Keller had been in charge 81 00:04:06,320 --> 00:04:08,280 Speaker 3: of him, I would have believed that. That's all I 82 00:04:08,320 --> 00:04:10,840 Speaker 3: really needed, was like Chris dragging this guy around. 83 00:04:11,120 --> 00:04:13,440 Speaker 6: Okay, let's let's rewind and go back to the start 84 00:04:13,480 --> 00:04:15,240 Speaker 6: of the episode. We're going to get to that spot. 85 00:04:15,320 --> 00:04:19,640 Speaker 6: But the opening with Danny and Julian having a conversation 86 00:04:19,800 --> 00:04:23,960 Speaker 6: over a body in the trunk. This I didn't know 87 00:04:24,080 --> 00:04:28,039 Speaker 6: that Dan, Julian and Chris Keller was the high jinks 88 00:04:28,120 --> 00:04:30,719 Speaker 6: action movie. Yes, that I desperately needed. 89 00:04:31,040 --> 00:04:34,880 Speaker 3: Yes, I wanted, I want, I want more of those three. 90 00:04:35,360 --> 00:04:39,520 Speaker 6: Oh my gosh, the the the alchemy between the three 91 00:04:39,560 --> 00:04:44,000 Speaker 6: of them, it's just it's like comedic umamiye. They they 92 00:04:44,040 --> 00:04:47,839 Speaker 6: work off each other so well. Yeah, and some of 93 00:04:47,880 --> 00:04:51,479 Speaker 6: the dialogue was just like at one point Chris goes, 94 00:04:51,680 --> 00:04:54,360 Speaker 6: Chris Keller's too pretty to go to prison, and Julian goes, 95 00:04:54,400 --> 00:04:57,479 Speaker 6: That's what I said, refining himself obviously, and Chris Keller 96 00:04:57,520 --> 00:05:01,800 Speaker 6: in Earnest Goes. You said, Chris Keller was pretty brilliant. 97 00:05:03,360 --> 00:05:05,840 Speaker 2: So fun, man, all of it was so fun. 98 00:05:05,839 --> 00:05:11,240 Speaker 4: And watching the volley between Dan and Julian, all of 99 00:05:11,279 --> 00:05:14,080 Speaker 4: it is great. Julian's like, you said, it was nothing illegal. 100 00:05:14,560 --> 00:05:16,200 Speaker 4: That's a dead guy, and he's like, well, Dan, he's 101 00:05:16,240 --> 00:05:19,120 Speaker 4: not dead. It's like, yeah, okay, because kidnapping's less illegal. 102 00:05:19,720 --> 00:05:24,479 Speaker 4: And you watch this banter and they're having this amazing 103 00:05:24,600 --> 00:05:29,200 Speaker 4: two hander and Chris popping up as the surprise and 104 00:05:29,240 --> 00:05:35,360 Speaker 4: then repeating things Julian said, like just absolute comedic gold. 105 00:05:35,520 --> 00:05:37,919 Speaker 4: They built it in a way, it's like they built 106 00:05:37,920 --> 00:05:43,000 Speaker 4: a pyramid. It was so well done, and to your point, 107 00:05:43,200 --> 00:05:45,680 Speaker 4: all I wanted was more of it. I was like, God, 108 00:05:45,760 --> 00:05:48,640 Speaker 4: we only have a few more episodes, and obviously they're 109 00:05:48,680 --> 00:05:51,920 Speaker 4: going to rescue Nathan in this one, which yay for Nathan. 110 00:05:51,600 --> 00:05:54,279 Speaker 2: And Haley, but I want more Dan, Julian and Chris. 111 00:05:54,680 --> 00:05:58,080 Speaker 3: They should have started that two episodes ago, exactly. I 112 00:05:58,160 --> 00:06:01,400 Speaker 3: needed all of that's that's hard to do. By the way, 113 00:06:01,480 --> 00:06:04,480 Speaker 3: what they were all doing, well, let me start by 114 00:06:04,480 --> 00:06:06,880 Speaker 3: saying I was grateful that when we opened on all 115 00:06:06,920 --> 00:06:09,479 Speaker 3: that stuff, the way that the cameras were positioned and 116 00:06:09,520 --> 00:06:13,040 Speaker 3: the types of the types of shots. At least we 117 00:06:13,040 --> 00:06:16,120 Speaker 3: were kind of making fun of ourselves for how ridiculous 118 00:06:16,160 --> 00:06:19,440 Speaker 3: it's all gotten. I felt like just the sheer positioning 119 00:06:19,480 --> 00:06:22,600 Speaker 3: of the cameras was like, what on no, Like, here 120 00:06:22,640 --> 00:06:25,400 Speaker 3: we are, We're doing our show and it was fun. 121 00:06:25,960 --> 00:06:28,359 Speaker 3: But what's so hard, I think as an actor is 122 00:06:28,400 --> 00:06:32,400 Speaker 3: to is to play really heightened dramatic stuff like that 123 00:06:32,760 --> 00:06:36,560 Speaker 3: in comedy, like it's realistic, which makes it funny if 124 00:06:36,600 --> 00:06:38,800 Speaker 3: you really just stay as dropped in as possible and 125 00:06:39,040 --> 00:06:42,440 Speaker 3: be like I would be reacting this way to such 126 00:06:42,480 --> 00:06:48,440 Speaker 3: extraordinary circumstances, but to also then switch into some really dramatic, 127 00:06:49,000 --> 00:06:51,520 Speaker 3: vulnerable moments that they had with each other, even in 128 00:06:51,560 --> 00:06:54,520 Speaker 3: the middle of some of these comedy lines, Like there 129 00:06:54,560 --> 00:06:58,520 Speaker 3: was a moment when Tyler is talking to Paul, sorry, 130 00:06:58,560 --> 00:07:01,760 Speaker 3: Chris is talking to Dan, and Chris sort of loses 131 00:07:01,800 --> 00:07:04,159 Speaker 3: all his pretense. I can't remember what were they saying. 132 00:07:04,200 --> 00:07:06,840 Speaker 3: I should have written this down, but he was he 133 00:07:06,920 --> 00:07:10,560 Speaker 3: was talking to Dan about do you guys remember this? 134 00:07:10,640 --> 00:07:13,400 Speaker 3: It was sort of like a cowboy shot on Tyler, 135 00:07:13,920 --> 00:07:16,520 Speaker 3: and it was he was going in on Dan about 136 00:07:16,520 --> 00:07:19,080 Speaker 3: something and Dan turns around and gives it back to him. 137 00:07:19,680 --> 00:07:20,680 Speaker 3: You don't know what I'm talking about? 138 00:07:20,920 --> 00:07:21,240 Speaker 2: Was this? 139 00:07:21,520 --> 00:07:26,360 Speaker 4: Was this when they were talking about Dan goes after 140 00:07:26,720 --> 00:07:29,360 Speaker 4: what Dan goes after Chris saying you've got a crush 141 00:07:29,360 --> 00:07:31,480 Speaker 4: on Haley. You want Nathan to stay gone? And then 142 00:07:31,680 --> 00:07:33,840 Speaker 4: Chris gives it back and he's like, no, you do 143 00:07:33,960 --> 00:07:37,200 Speaker 4: because you're going to lose your family, your grandkids. 144 00:07:37,200 --> 00:07:40,280 Speaker 3: Like yeah, it's like very real stuff that they're talking about. 145 00:07:40,320 --> 00:07:43,720 Speaker 3: This is not just like Shenanigans. They're really going after 146 00:07:43,800 --> 00:07:47,240 Speaker 3: each other. Yeah, it's that's hard to do. It felt great. 147 00:07:48,280 --> 00:07:50,360 Speaker 6: Can we really quick? I have a question for you, Droy, 148 00:07:50,400 --> 00:07:52,440 Speaker 6: because I don't. Can you explain to me how the 149 00:07:52,520 --> 00:07:56,440 Speaker 6: use of the camera sort of had us like poking 150 00:07:56,440 --> 00:07:57,400 Speaker 6: fun at ourselves? 151 00:07:57,600 --> 00:08:00,480 Speaker 3: Okay, it was It was bright colors. For first of all, 152 00:08:00,520 --> 00:08:02,120 Speaker 3: it felt like there was a lot of light in 153 00:08:02,160 --> 00:08:04,560 Speaker 3: the room and the collars were really bright, which is 154 00:08:04,600 --> 00:08:06,800 Speaker 3: a contrast to a lot of the dark, seedy, like 155 00:08:06,880 --> 00:08:09,720 Speaker 3: we're trying to be realistic about this kidnapping stuff. So 156 00:08:09,760 --> 00:08:11,640 Speaker 3: that was what I noticed first. And then there's this 157 00:08:11,880 --> 00:08:14,840 Speaker 3: almost like a fish eye lens on one of the cameras. 158 00:08:15,200 --> 00:08:18,440 Speaker 3: Where the way that they're leaning in it just felt 159 00:08:18,480 --> 00:08:21,280 Speaker 3: like a comedy. Those are shots that you see in 160 00:08:21,320 --> 00:08:25,000 Speaker 3: The Hangover. Yeah, and it's like if you. 161 00:08:24,960 --> 00:08:28,800 Speaker 4: Think The Usual Suspects or any kind of uh, who 162 00:08:28,920 --> 00:08:31,800 Speaker 4: Done it? Or mob movie where they're shooting up through 163 00:08:31,840 --> 00:08:35,959 Speaker 4: the trunk of the car, usually people are leaning in close, 164 00:08:36,559 --> 00:08:40,400 Speaker 4: but it's not also a fish eye, and I thought 165 00:08:40,440 --> 00:08:44,320 Speaker 4: it was the fish eye shot up at Dan and 166 00:08:44,400 --> 00:08:47,840 Speaker 4: Julian through the trunk of the car makes it a 167 00:08:47,920 --> 00:08:53,200 Speaker 4: little funny because it's an exaggerated lens. And then even 168 00:08:53,200 --> 00:08:55,400 Speaker 4: when they did the thing like it made they looked 169 00:08:55,440 --> 00:09:00,480 Speaker 4: so great and hot and leading man. But even when 170 00:09:00,480 --> 00:09:02,760 Speaker 4: they did the thing where they reached in for Dimitri 171 00:09:02,960 --> 00:09:05,800 Speaker 4: like this and all the hands came in from the side, 172 00:09:05,920 --> 00:09:08,840 Speaker 4: it was funny and I was like, Wow, they're really 173 00:09:09,040 --> 00:09:13,040 Speaker 4: nailing the balance of the action and the comedy. It's 174 00:09:13,080 --> 00:09:14,800 Speaker 4: a little like City Slickers. 175 00:09:15,080 --> 00:09:19,040 Speaker 3: Yes, and Nathan's kidnapper, the Shakespeare guy. They did the 176 00:09:19,080 --> 00:09:21,280 Speaker 3: same shot on him, so he's leaning in and he's 177 00:09:21,280 --> 00:09:23,800 Speaker 3: doing it was like, what was that movie with Josh 178 00:09:23,840 --> 00:09:25,480 Speaker 3: Hartnett Seven's. 179 00:09:25,440 --> 00:09:28,319 Speaker 6: Oh Lucky number sleven sleven? 180 00:09:28,400 --> 00:09:30,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, Lucky number seven, Like there was some vibes about 181 00:09:30,920 --> 00:09:35,440 Speaker 3: that that I noticed. Yeah, so hopefully that answers your question. 182 00:09:35,480 --> 00:09:37,920 Speaker 3: There's like a comedy in the camera, yes, and. 183 00:09:37,880 --> 00:09:40,559 Speaker 6: One small beef with that first scene with the kidnapper 184 00:09:40,800 --> 00:09:43,760 Speaker 6: is so, you're gonna tell me this gangster, who is 185 00:09:44,160 --> 00:09:47,960 Speaker 6: clearly very well read because he's reciting Shakespeare left and right, 186 00:09:48,440 --> 00:09:51,960 Speaker 6: he doesn't know one of the most popular expressions in 187 00:09:52,000 --> 00:09:57,720 Speaker 6: the world of say cheese. He says, say the cheese. 188 00:09:59,120 --> 00:10:02,320 Speaker 6: It's like they made him, You've made this guy so 189 00:10:02,480 --> 00:10:05,760 Speaker 6: well read, and then he doesn't know say cheese. 190 00:10:06,360 --> 00:10:06,640 Speaker 7: Cheez. 191 00:10:08,440 --> 00:10:10,760 Speaker 6: It's a very minor gripe. But I bumped for a moment, 192 00:10:10,880 --> 00:10:11,560 Speaker 6: was like, come. 193 00:10:11,360 --> 00:10:13,240 Speaker 2: On, and that's really funny. 194 00:10:13,559 --> 00:10:17,679 Speaker 4: You know what's interesting, And you're right. It's when you're 195 00:10:17,720 --> 00:10:21,600 Speaker 4: really paying attention, as obviously we do because we're analyzing 196 00:10:21,640 --> 00:10:24,800 Speaker 4: this show together, those. 197 00:10:24,520 --> 00:10:25,319 Speaker 2: Things stand out. 198 00:10:25,480 --> 00:10:27,800 Speaker 4: And one of the things I've been loving about this, 199 00:10:28,720 --> 00:10:30,760 Speaker 4: I think, because we are having so much fun with 200 00:10:30,840 --> 00:10:33,520 Speaker 4: season nine, is the stuff that I'm like, God, I 201 00:10:33,640 --> 00:10:35,800 Speaker 4: like that they did that. You know, some of it's 202 00:10:35,840 --> 00:10:40,000 Speaker 4: patently ridiculous, but I loved how when they're having this 203 00:10:40,080 --> 00:10:44,240 Speaker 4: whole experience together Dan and Julian and Chris, I want again, 204 00:10:44,360 --> 00:10:47,480 Speaker 4: I want the whole movie. I really liked that they 205 00:10:47,520 --> 00:10:52,560 Speaker 4: had Julian kind of do a figurative like shake Dan 206 00:10:52,640 --> 00:10:53,959 Speaker 4: by the shoulders and be like. 207 00:10:53,960 --> 00:10:55,600 Speaker 2: Do you understand how real this is? 208 00:10:56,440 --> 00:10:59,880 Speaker 4: The guns and the kidnapping, and like he's really trying 209 00:11:00,120 --> 00:11:02,600 Speaker 4: to say the thing that no one ever says in 210 00:11:02,640 --> 00:11:05,000 Speaker 4: an action movie, which is like this is insane and 211 00:11:05,000 --> 00:11:06,840 Speaker 4: this is not how the real world works. 212 00:11:07,960 --> 00:11:09,520 Speaker 2: And in a weird way, the. 213 00:11:10,960 --> 00:11:14,280 Speaker 4: Having, you know, the dad of two young kids try 214 00:11:14,280 --> 00:11:17,760 Speaker 4: to stop everyone and talk some logical sense into them 215 00:11:18,320 --> 00:11:23,520 Speaker 4: heightened my experience of it in a way that I 216 00:11:23,520 --> 00:11:26,400 Speaker 4: don't know, maybe I wouldn't have felt because I'm so 217 00:11:26,520 --> 00:11:29,520 Speaker 4: used to seeing action movies. We all are there was 218 00:11:29,559 --> 00:11:33,760 Speaker 4: something great about it. And then even Chris later they 219 00:11:34,160 --> 00:11:36,240 Speaker 4: kind of they call back to it when Dan and 220 00:11:36,320 --> 00:11:38,480 Speaker 4: Chris are in the car and they've locked Julian out 221 00:11:38,679 --> 00:11:40,520 Speaker 4: and Chris is like, I could have kids, I've had 222 00:11:40,520 --> 00:11:42,680 Speaker 4: all kinds of crazy sex, man, like I gotta go, 223 00:11:43,400 --> 00:11:46,160 Speaker 4: and it just it was all of it was like 224 00:11:46,440 --> 00:11:48,040 Speaker 4: perfectly done for who. 225 00:11:47,920 --> 00:11:49,719 Speaker 2: Each of these men is. 226 00:11:50,280 --> 00:11:52,800 Speaker 6: Yes, and in that very scene, explain this to me 227 00:11:52,840 --> 00:11:54,959 Speaker 6: because I was I think I got I tripped on 228 00:11:55,000 --> 00:11:59,240 Speaker 6: the geography of where that scene was taking place, so 229 00:11:59,640 --> 00:12:03,000 Speaker 6: they were they actually at the warehouse where Nathan was 230 00:12:03,040 --> 00:12:05,599 Speaker 6: being held, but just like the other side. 231 00:12:05,320 --> 00:12:08,280 Speaker 2: Of it, that's what it seemed like, because. 232 00:12:08,040 --> 00:12:10,480 Speaker 6: That's where I was confused, Like if you're going to 233 00:12:10,559 --> 00:12:12,679 Speaker 6: exclude him, I mean, first of all, just tell him 234 00:12:12,679 --> 00:12:14,000 Speaker 6: you're going to pick him up at his house and 235 00:12:14,000 --> 00:12:15,920 Speaker 6: at least give him the courtesy of being stood up 236 00:12:15,920 --> 00:12:18,560 Speaker 6: at his own home. But I was confused that, like, 237 00:12:19,120 --> 00:12:21,160 Speaker 6: if you are doing the right thing, which is this 238 00:12:21,200 --> 00:12:23,240 Speaker 6: guy has two young kids, I'm not going to let 239 00:12:23,280 --> 00:12:25,880 Speaker 6: him be a part of it. It felt weird that, like, well, 240 00:12:25,920 --> 00:12:29,520 Speaker 6: then why are you still driving him to the scene 241 00:12:30,480 --> 00:12:33,400 Speaker 6: and leaving him with nothing? But why are cutters? 242 00:12:33,800 --> 00:12:37,120 Speaker 3: So I think I can answer that, And the way 243 00:12:37,160 --> 00:12:41,640 Speaker 3: I interpreted it is that great speech that he gives 244 00:12:42,280 --> 00:12:44,920 Speaker 3: to Dan when Dan's like, what is this about you 245 00:12:45,000 --> 00:12:47,200 Speaker 3: leaving your kids in the car? Is that still what's 246 00:12:47,240 --> 00:12:50,760 Speaker 3: going on? And Julian says no, and he said a 247 00:12:50,800 --> 00:12:52,600 Speaker 3: lot of words, but essentially what he was saying is 248 00:12:52,760 --> 00:12:54,960 Speaker 3: it's about knowing that someone will stand up for you. 249 00:12:55,920 --> 00:12:58,840 Speaker 3: I'm going to be that kind of a person, that 250 00:12:58,920 --> 00:13:01,319 Speaker 3: kind of a friend. I'm I'm going to go stand 251 00:13:01,400 --> 00:13:05,040 Speaker 3: up for my friend and help them no matter what. 252 00:13:05,600 --> 00:13:11,840 Speaker 3: So I feel like and Dan is also playing emotional 253 00:13:11,880 --> 00:13:15,200 Speaker 3: mentor to these guys during this whole process in some 254 00:13:15,360 --> 00:13:17,920 Speaker 3: bizarre way. He's sort of like allowing them in on 255 00:13:18,120 --> 00:13:24,000 Speaker 3: his mission, but kind of knowing that they both need 256 00:13:24,360 --> 00:13:30,160 Speaker 3: some kind of boost in their emotional lives that this 257 00:13:30,320 --> 00:13:33,040 Speaker 3: is going to help them with in some way. So 258 00:13:33,920 --> 00:13:36,600 Speaker 3: that's kind of how I wrapped it up in my brain, like, Okay, 259 00:13:36,640 --> 00:13:38,160 Speaker 3: he's going to let him come along. 260 00:13:37,960 --> 00:13:41,800 Speaker 6: For that that I get. I completely understand, like letting 261 00:13:41,840 --> 00:13:43,320 Speaker 6: me be a part of it, but then excluding him. 262 00:13:43,559 --> 00:13:46,679 Speaker 6: My question just was I didn't understand the literal geography, 263 00:13:47,160 --> 00:13:50,120 Speaker 6: Like there was a guy who appeared to be a lookout, 264 00:13:50,320 --> 00:13:53,840 Speaker 6: there was a fence. So my confusion is if he's 265 00:13:53,920 --> 00:13:57,800 Speaker 6: excluding him, didn't he still drive him to the warehouse 266 00:13:57,800 --> 00:13:59,720 Speaker 6: where it was all about to go down. 267 00:14:00,120 --> 00:14:02,880 Speaker 3: Right, So he's like, just go just run get out 268 00:14:02,880 --> 00:14:05,480 Speaker 3: of here, And he's like, Okay, where in tree hill 269 00:14:05,520 --> 00:14:09,000 Speaker 3: am I that I can? Just Like what road am 270 00:14:09,040 --> 00:14:10,800 Speaker 3: I about to get on and walk down and like 271 00:14:10,840 --> 00:14:13,160 Speaker 3: call an uber outside of this warehouse? Like what am 272 00:14:13,200 --> 00:14:15,840 Speaker 3: I supposed to do? Is that what you're thinking. 273 00:14:15,600 --> 00:14:17,640 Speaker 6: Rob like, yeah, I just kind of it felt like 274 00:14:17,800 --> 00:14:21,600 Speaker 6: I understand the move you're making. It's sort of like noble, 275 00:14:22,000 --> 00:14:25,720 Speaker 6: but you you introduced a wild amount of risk that 276 00:14:25,760 --> 00:14:27,760 Speaker 6: you didn't need to because you left him in front 277 00:14:27,760 --> 00:14:31,040 Speaker 6: of this warehouse where bad people are right alone. 278 00:14:31,400 --> 00:14:34,360 Speaker 3: Yeah, Like I thought for sure when he was crouching 279 00:14:34,400 --> 00:14:35,880 Speaker 3: down on the phone with you, so. 280 00:14:36,160 --> 00:14:38,400 Speaker 2: He was going to get caught. Yeah, I thought for sure. 281 00:14:38,520 --> 00:14:40,160 Speaker 3: One of the gids coming out of the bushes. 282 00:14:40,680 --> 00:14:42,520 Speaker 2: Well what helped me with that? 283 00:14:43,280 --> 00:14:45,480 Speaker 4: And I wish they'd done a shot over his shoulder 284 00:14:45,840 --> 00:14:50,480 Speaker 4: to reinforce it. But because I had gotten up to 285 00:14:50,600 --> 00:14:52,520 Speaker 4: grab something and sat back down, and I was like, 286 00:14:52,560 --> 00:14:55,120 Speaker 4: wait a second, this feels ridiculous. So I rewound and 287 00:14:55,200 --> 00:14:58,480 Speaker 4: rewatched from him running to cut the lock, which is 288 00:14:58,600 --> 00:15:00,440 Speaker 4: truly the only reason I think I tr to this. 289 00:15:01,040 --> 00:15:03,160 Speaker 4: He had to run from the car in the shadows 290 00:15:03,320 --> 00:15:06,200 Speaker 4: up to the gate and then run back so that 291 00:15:06,400 --> 00:15:08,320 Speaker 4: the you know, the chain would still be there, it 292 00:15:08,320 --> 00:15:10,720 Speaker 4: would look like it was locked, but the lock was cut. 293 00:15:10,920 --> 00:15:13,400 Speaker 4: Then they were going to go around the back. So 294 00:15:13,440 --> 00:15:17,960 Speaker 4: what I realized was Julian was already if you think 295 00:15:18,080 --> 00:15:20,920 Speaker 4: the gate to the warehouse where the guys were that's 296 00:15:20,960 --> 00:15:25,360 Speaker 4: at least a football field. He's he's probably another sixty 297 00:15:25,400 --> 00:15:27,960 Speaker 4: feet back at the car when they don't let him in, 298 00:15:28,120 --> 00:15:31,840 Speaker 4: and then he runs back in the opposite direction of 299 00:15:31,840 --> 00:15:35,120 Speaker 4: the warehouse into the bushes, so he is pretty far 300 00:15:35,160 --> 00:15:38,760 Speaker 4: from it. But what I thought was missing, because these 301 00:15:38,800 --> 00:15:41,760 Speaker 4: things are all happening so fast, I wish that we 302 00:15:41,800 --> 00:15:44,800 Speaker 4: had done a thing where when he crouched talking to Brook, 303 00:15:45,560 --> 00:15:49,040 Speaker 4: he checked over his shoulder and we'd racked so you 304 00:15:49,080 --> 00:15:51,240 Speaker 4: could see how far away everything was. 305 00:15:51,360 --> 00:15:54,160 Speaker 3: You could see like a drone shot would have been great. 306 00:15:54,560 --> 00:15:55,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, just something. 307 00:15:55,560 --> 00:15:57,320 Speaker 4: I mean, not that we had them then, but like 308 00:15:57,880 --> 00:16:00,880 Speaker 4: it would have been helpful. And then even to your 309 00:16:00,920 --> 00:16:03,800 Speaker 4: point Rob understanding, because Dan says it's going to take 310 00:16:03,840 --> 00:16:06,720 Speaker 4: a while to get back around to the front of 311 00:16:06,800 --> 00:16:10,040 Speaker 4: the warehouse, I'm like, I wish I could have just 312 00:16:11,600 --> 00:16:13,720 Speaker 4: And again it's like we're obviously shooting on some side 313 00:16:13,720 --> 00:16:16,560 Speaker 4: street by the airport in Wilmington, like who knows what 314 00:16:16,760 --> 00:16:20,080 Speaker 4: was available, But I wish we'd been able to sort 315 00:16:20,120 --> 00:16:24,520 Speaker 4: of see how they'd crept around and then like where's 316 00:16:24,560 --> 00:16:27,760 Speaker 4: the other gate and where's the thing. I just felt 317 00:16:27,760 --> 00:16:30,360 Speaker 4: like I didn't totally understand where we were in space. 318 00:16:44,080 --> 00:16:46,680 Speaker 3: Okay, Here's something else I didn't understand was the timeline 319 00:16:47,560 --> 00:16:52,920 Speaker 3: because it looked to me like they were in the 320 00:16:52,960 --> 00:16:57,320 Speaker 3: soundstage with Dimitri in the trunk or whoever that guy's 321 00:16:57,400 --> 00:17:01,160 Speaker 3: name is in the trunk at the same time you're 322 00:17:01,240 --> 00:17:05,959 Speaker 3: opening the cafe and then they come back to the 323 00:17:06,119 --> 00:17:10,960 Speaker 3: nighttime stuff and you're still cleaning up the cafe at night. 324 00:17:11,480 --> 00:17:12,920 Speaker 3: It like it took you all day. 325 00:17:12,960 --> 00:17:17,000 Speaker 4: It took me twelve hours to do that. Yeah, also 326 00:17:17,080 --> 00:17:20,679 Speaker 4: by myself. Also listen, Haley's husband is missing, but we 327 00:17:20,840 --> 00:17:24,560 Speaker 4: do own that cafe together. Like if we'd been broken into, 328 00:17:25,160 --> 00:17:27,000 Speaker 4: you would have been my first call. 329 00:17:27,560 --> 00:17:30,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, yes, because maybe it's related. 330 00:17:31,119 --> 00:17:31,960 Speaker 2: Well right, and. 331 00:17:31,960 --> 00:17:37,680 Speaker 4: Also whether it's about Nathan or it's about Xavier, why 332 00:17:37,720 --> 00:17:39,800 Speaker 4: would Brooke not call Haley? And why would Brooke not 333 00:17:39,840 --> 00:17:42,480 Speaker 4: call the police. That was a moment where I was like, 334 00:17:42,560 --> 00:17:45,119 Speaker 4: come on, yeah, give us a little and then she 335 00:17:45,240 --> 00:17:50,080 Speaker 4: just she finds the ex carved in to the bar 336 00:17:50,240 --> 00:17:53,239 Speaker 4: top and isn't like, clearly it's the guy whose name 337 00:17:53,280 --> 00:17:55,680 Speaker 4: starts at X who's threatened to kill me before, who's 338 00:17:55,680 --> 00:17:56,880 Speaker 4: done this, Like, well. 339 00:17:57,080 --> 00:17:59,600 Speaker 3: She knew I think you did know? Was didn't you 340 00:17:59,600 --> 00:18:01,680 Speaker 3: you knew yes, but then I. 341 00:18:01,680 --> 00:18:03,520 Speaker 4: Called Julian to be like, I'm not gonna let him 342 00:18:03,560 --> 00:18:07,400 Speaker 4: scare me instead of calling the police, Like, who's doing that? 343 00:18:07,880 --> 00:18:09,760 Speaker 3: Why would you have called the police the second you 344 00:18:09,800 --> 00:18:12,000 Speaker 3: walked into the cafe and saw that. I mean, I 345 00:18:12,000 --> 00:18:13,800 Speaker 3: know they've been letting you down, but like, that's a maser, 346 00:18:13,920 --> 00:18:14,720 Speaker 3: that's a major crime. 347 00:18:15,680 --> 00:18:18,560 Speaker 4: And by the way, what I really did, sure, I'm 348 00:18:18,560 --> 00:18:20,320 Speaker 4: cleaning up our place of work. I cleaned up a 349 00:18:20,359 --> 00:18:25,200 Speaker 4: crime scene. Yeah, I disrupted all that evidence. Like, yeah, 350 00:18:25,320 --> 00:18:27,280 Speaker 4: that's the last thing you're. 351 00:18:27,080 --> 00:18:27,960 Speaker 2: Supposed to do. 352 00:18:29,040 --> 00:18:33,480 Speaker 6: This episode was packed with so much good stuff, but 353 00:18:33,840 --> 00:18:37,280 Speaker 6: one thing it was missing was all of Brookes's survival 354 00:18:37,320 --> 00:18:38,600 Speaker 6: instincts and common sense. 355 00:18:39,320 --> 00:18:43,000 Speaker 3: This is okay, actually so weird because when I saw 356 00:18:43,520 --> 00:18:45,920 Speaker 3: the way there was like a look that came over 357 00:18:45,920 --> 00:18:49,040 Speaker 3: your face at the bar, and I thought, oh, this 358 00:18:49,080 --> 00:18:51,160 Speaker 3: is gonna be fun. She's she's on the offense. 359 00:18:51,320 --> 00:18:54,480 Speaker 6: It was home alone face. It was I'm going to 360 00:18:54,560 --> 00:18:56,400 Speaker 6: hatch a plan, like. 361 00:18:56,359 --> 00:18:58,919 Speaker 3: And I thought all the stuff with the electrical circuits 362 00:18:58,920 --> 00:19:01,439 Speaker 3: and all, like, I thought Brooke was on to something. 363 00:19:01,520 --> 00:19:04,760 Speaker 3: She was she was setting him up. So it really 364 00:19:04,880 --> 00:19:06,679 Speaker 3: was very confusing the turn. 365 00:19:06,920 --> 00:19:11,440 Speaker 6: That it took and Okay, a quick question regarding the sequence. 366 00:19:12,200 --> 00:19:15,360 Speaker 6: Are we supposed to think that, you know, the sound 367 00:19:15,440 --> 00:19:18,960 Speaker 6: of like a mobile, like a mobile or like a 368 00:19:19,040 --> 00:19:22,639 Speaker 6: children's toy. Are we supposed to think that that Brooke 369 00:19:22,760 --> 00:19:24,160 Speaker 6: was actually hearing. 370 00:19:23,840 --> 00:19:26,600 Speaker 3: That or was that I thought so he's. 371 00:19:26,160 --> 00:19:29,760 Speaker 6: Too And if that's the case, that's crazy. 372 00:19:29,920 --> 00:19:30,120 Speaker 3: Yeah. 373 00:19:30,160 --> 00:19:32,879 Speaker 4: It's literally like when you watch the person go upstairs 374 00:19:32,920 --> 00:19:33,720 Speaker 4: in a horror movie. 375 00:19:34,600 --> 00:19:35,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, watching. 376 00:19:36,520 --> 00:19:39,520 Speaker 4: First of all, we've never seen Brooke Davis park in 377 00:19:39,520 --> 00:19:40,880 Speaker 4: that parking structure downtown. 378 00:19:41,080 --> 00:19:43,760 Speaker 6: Never. We had no idea what I was always. 379 00:19:43,359 --> 00:19:45,200 Speaker 2: Parked in front of the cafe always. 380 00:19:45,359 --> 00:19:47,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, couldn't they have just set that up? Like all 381 00:19:47,600 --> 00:19:50,560 Speaker 3: the parking spots were taken and they just had show. 382 00:19:50,840 --> 00:19:54,080 Speaker 4: Even if we'd started to see three episodes ago when 383 00:19:54,119 --> 00:19:56,679 Speaker 4: I'm talking shit to you about what a nightmare neighbor 384 00:19:56,760 --> 00:19:58,560 Speaker 4: Tara is at her cafe. 385 00:19:58,480 --> 00:20:00,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, like yeah, and now. 386 00:20:00,160 --> 00:20:03,320 Speaker 4: Her and all her employees come like maybe they were 387 00:20:03,359 --> 00:20:07,080 Speaker 4: taking all the parking spots first, like something. 388 00:20:07,200 --> 00:20:09,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm so sick of parking in this lot. It's 389 00:20:09,240 --> 00:20:11,040 Speaker 3: a half block away from the Yah. 390 00:20:11,160 --> 00:20:13,800 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's like they keep showing up and I came 391 00:20:13,840 --> 00:20:15,800 Speaker 4: at you know, seven am, and they were already here, 392 00:20:16,160 --> 00:20:18,320 Speaker 4: like what you know, imagine having the time to be 393 00:20:18,359 --> 00:20:21,960 Speaker 4: that petty like something where you go, okay, so we 394 00:20:22,040 --> 00:20:24,600 Speaker 4: can't even access our own place of work, and now 395 00:20:24,600 --> 00:20:26,400 Speaker 4: we have to go around the corner and like park 396 00:20:26,440 --> 00:20:29,440 Speaker 4: next to the movie theater or whatever. It would have helped, 397 00:20:30,000 --> 00:20:33,359 Speaker 4: it makes sense. And then a thing that really stuck 398 00:20:33,400 --> 00:20:36,719 Speaker 4: out stuck out to me. I obviously don't think I 399 00:20:36,760 --> 00:20:39,240 Speaker 4: was tracking it in real time when we were shooting, 400 00:20:40,080 --> 00:20:42,520 Speaker 4: but I was like, why is the entire first floor 401 00:20:42,560 --> 00:20:46,160 Speaker 4: of the parking structure empty? Because then it immediately makes 402 00:20:46,200 --> 00:20:48,600 Speaker 4: me ask why did she go to the third floor? 403 00:20:49,400 --> 00:20:53,720 Speaker 4: Like why would I put myself farther away from flat 404 00:20:53,760 --> 00:20:56,320 Speaker 4: ground which is a safety thing. 405 00:20:56,960 --> 00:20:58,960 Speaker 3: So these are the kinds of questions I would ask 406 00:20:59,000 --> 00:20:59,920 Speaker 3: on set all the time. 407 00:21:00,520 --> 00:21:02,800 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, you're like, we don't time to get yelled at. 408 00:21:02,920 --> 00:21:04,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, we don't have time for that. Joy I'm like, yeah, 409 00:21:04,640 --> 00:21:06,080 Speaker 3: but it doesn't make sense. I just want everyone to 410 00:21:06,119 --> 00:21:07,600 Speaker 3: know it doesn't make sense. Okay, let's do it. 411 00:21:07,760 --> 00:21:09,320 Speaker 6: And that's a great way to get the Oh, she 412 00:21:09,400 --> 00:21:11,520 Speaker 6: can be a handful, It's like, right, she can just 413 00:21:11,640 --> 00:21:14,399 Speaker 6: ask very obvious questions that the audience is going to 414 00:21:14,480 --> 00:21:14,800 Speaker 6: bump on. 415 00:21:15,040 --> 00:21:18,719 Speaker 4: Well, Interestingly, when you're a woman who is intelligent and 416 00:21:18,760 --> 00:21:22,280 Speaker 4: you say anything out loud, people say she's kind of difficult, 417 00:21:22,280 --> 00:21:25,040 Speaker 4: and you're like, am I am? I just pointing out 418 00:21:25,040 --> 00:21:26,640 Speaker 4: a hole in your story, sir. 419 00:21:27,440 --> 00:21:29,520 Speaker 6: Okay, calm down, Sophia, you sound hysterical. 420 00:21:29,880 --> 00:21:31,840 Speaker 2: Thank you. You know what you're wating. I should really 421 00:21:31,920 --> 00:21:35,320 Speaker 2: I should rein it in. I should rein it in too. 422 00:21:35,400 --> 00:21:36,400 Speaker 2: I'm too emotional. 423 00:21:37,040 --> 00:21:39,520 Speaker 6: I just I just didn't like that we took a 424 00:21:39,680 --> 00:21:44,480 Speaker 6: character who is intelligent and has very good like social 425 00:21:44,520 --> 00:21:47,119 Speaker 6: awareness and I think survival and things. When you've been 426 00:21:47,160 --> 00:21:49,840 Speaker 6: through stuff like that, I think you are very vigilant, 427 00:21:49,920 --> 00:21:54,080 Speaker 6: hyper vigilant. Yes, And so, first of all, Xavier was 428 00:21:54,160 --> 00:21:56,840 Speaker 6: holding the child in the previous episode at the end 429 00:21:56,840 --> 00:21:59,560 Speaker 6: of it. Yet the way he wants to leave a 430 00:21:59,600 --> 00:22:03,280 Speaker 6: calling car is by engraving an X in the counter. Okay, 431 00:22:03,440 --> 00:22:05,400 Speaker 6: you held their child the night before. To me, that's 432 00:22:05,400 --> 00:22:08,000 Speaker 6: the bigger flex. I don't know why, whatever, that doesn't matter. Yeah, 433 00:22:08,280 --> 00:22:11,080 Speaker 6: the fact that, like it couldn't be any more deliberate 434 00:22:11,119 --> 00:22:13,040 Speaker 6: that this guy is letting you know that you are 435 00:22:13,040 --> 00:22:16,160 Speaker 6: in grave danger and he is obviously crazy because he's 436 00:22:16,200 --> 00:22:19,480 Speaker 6: doing stuff that is incriminating himself left and right right. Yes, 437 00:22:19,880 --> 00:22:23,760 Speaker 6: the fact that a you don't tell Julian, even if 438 00:22:23,800 --> 00:22:25,000 Speaker 6: you want to be like, hey, I'm gonna handle it, 439 00:22:25,000 --> 00:22:27,120 Speaker 6: that's cool. But the fact you don't go we got 440 00:22:27,119 --> 00:22:30,480 Speaker 6: broken into and Xavier engraved his name in the counter. 441 00:22:30,800 --> 00:22:34,480 Speaker 6: But then it's like the power goes out again. Keep 442 00:22:34,480 --> 00:22:36,760 Speaker 6: in mind what is happening in your day. It's all 443 00:22:36,840 --> 00:22:39,679 Speaker 6: crazy Xavier stuff. And then then you're like, I'm just 444 00:22:39,720 --> 00:22:42,639 Speaker 6: gonna go for a walk into a dark parking structure. 445 00:22:42,800 --> 00:22:45,159 Speaker 6: It's like all of it was that hole like at 446 00:22:45,200 --> 00:22:47,000 Speaker 6: the start of a horror movie where you're like, why 447 00:22:47,040 --> 00:22:49,639 Speaker 6: are you going back into the house exactly? 448 00:22:49,920 --> 00:22:52,760 Speaker 2: And what's also weird for me? What bumps? 449 00:22:53,160 --> 00:22:55,840 Speaker 4: And again to your point, Joy, it's like we'd bring 450 00:22:55,920 --> 00:22:58,439 Speaker 4: things up and they'd go, well, if we let you 451 00:22:58,480 --> 00:23:01,720 Speaker 4: have this obvious solve, we don't get the payoff of the. 452 00:23:01,600 --> 00:23:02,560 Speaker 2: Scene or whatever. 453 00:23:03,400 --> 00:23:05,960 Speaker 4: I was like, guys, does no one remember that last 454 00:23:05,960 --> 00:23:09,439 Speaker 4: time Xavier attacked Brooke, she bought a gun and became 455 00:23:09,680 --> 00:23:11,840 Speaker 4: like a straight up marksman shooter. 456 00:23:12,000 --> 00:23:14,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, and now you're gonna tell me this man. 457 00:23:14,000 --> 00:23:17,200 Speaker 4: Is working across the street from her and she's not carrying. 458 00:23:17,440 --> 00:23:18,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, she's not prepared. 459 00:23:19,119 --> 00:23:20,000 Speaker 2: Are we cuckoo? 460 00:23:20,400 --> 00:23:23,399 Speaker 6: And not even a taser or mate? I know, like, 461 00:23:23,440 --> 00:23:26,720 Speaker 6: you're going to close a business by yourself at nighttime 462 00:23:26,760 --> 00:23:29,120 Speaker 6: while you are being stalked. Yeah, and you don't even 463 00:23:29,160 --> 00:23:30,800 Speaker 6: bring a steak knife. 464 00:23:30,640 --> 00:23:31,600 Speaker 2: Like straight up. 465 00:23:32,119 --> 00:23:35,000 Speaker 4: It was so surreal to me because I remember talking 466 00:23:35,040 --> 00:23:36,960 Speaker 4: to our bosses and being like, not to sound like 467 00:23:37,000 --> 00:23:40,879 Speaker 4: a completely insane person. But after the third time I 468 00:23:40,920 --> 00:23:44,359 Speaker 4: got followed home by like an unhinged fan in Wilmington. 469 00:23:44,800 --> 00:23:47,480 Speaker 4: And I'm saying unhinged because obviously we have wonderful fans, 470 00:23:47,480 --> 00:23:49,320 Speaker 4: but like, when you follow a stranger home, you must 471 00:23:49,359 --> 00:23:51,600 Speaker 4: be an unhinged person. And I'd like to set a 472 00:23:51,680 --> 00:23:56,440 Speaker 4: line between lovely people and not like I literally went 473 00:23:56,480 --> 00:23:58,560 Speaker 4: and did the sheriff's training course and got a concealed 474 00:23:58,600 --> 00:24:01,680 Speaker 4: carry bermitt. I was like, okay, like, y'all want to 475 00:24:01,680 --> 00:24:05,080 Speaker 4: start following me home, I'm not going to be unprepared. 476 00:24:05,560 --> 00:24:09,800 Speaker 4: Nobody ever attacked me and bashed my face in yeah. Yeah, like, 477 00:24:10,480 --> 00:24:13,840 Speaker 4: but I was scared enough to have a safety plan. 478 00:24:14,960 --> 00:24:18,560 Speaker 4: And so when you think about the level of what 479 00:24:19,000 --> 00:24:23,560 Speaker 4: happened to Brooke, like an assault like that, the kidnapping 480 00:24:23,640 --> 00:24:26,480 Speaker 4: of her foster child, the murder of a kid at 481 00:24:26,520 --> 00:24:29,720 Speaker 4: the local high school, and she's just like drped or 482 00:24:29,800 --> 00:24:31,919 Speaker 4: DRP or dirt. Let me take the elevator to the 483 00:24:31,920 --> 00:24:36,679 Speaker 4: third floor while while someone's playing a cradle song in 484 00:24:36,720 --> 00:24:38,000 Speaker 4: the parking lot. 485 00:24:38,440 --> 00:24:41,920 Speaker 6: No, that is like it says, they're dragging the machete 486 00:24:41,960 --> 00:24:44,560 Speaker 6: along the cement. Yes, just a scariest. 487 00:24:44,600 --> 00:24:47,280 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's like seeing Jason Vorhees in the mask and 488 00:24:47,320 --> 00:24:48,920 Speaker 4: being like, you can be my uber driver. 489 00:24:49,160 --> 00:24:55,320 Speaker 6: Like no, and then the Xavier his speech killed me. 490 00:24:55,400 --> 00:24:58,320 Speaker 6: But it was also that like very telling though, of 491 00:24:58,359 --> 00:25:00,720 Speaker 6: how we handled the villains this season and where I 492 00:25:00,760 --> 00:25:02,720 Speaker 6: think your brook is. You know, she's fighting. This is 493 00:25:02,720 --> 00:25:04,800 Speaker 6: when he's pinned her in the structure and she's like 494 00:25:04,880 --> 00:25:09,679 Speaker 6: why and he says why there is no why, no reason, 495 00:25:09,760 --> 00:25:12,320 Speaker 6: no justice. But I thought the why there is no why. 496 00:25:12,320 --> 00:25:17,199 Speaker 6: I'm like, that explains Tara, that explains Xavier because we 497 00:25:17,400 --> 00:25:20,919 Speaker 6: just have like people playing in eleven, but we haven't 498 00:25:20,960 --> 00:25:24,240 Speaker 6: planted any seeds as to why that behavior makes sense. 499 00:25:24,480 --> 00:25:27,200 Speaker 3: Yes, which is so strange because they wrote Dan so well, 500 00:25:27,359 --> 00:25:30,320 Speaker 3: he's such an en and like they know how to 501 00:25:30,359 --> 00:25:31,840 Speaker 3: do it well. 502 00:25:31,920 --> 00:25:34,119 Speaker 4: But what's interesting if you think about that. I wonder 503 00:25:34,160 --> 00:25:37,480 Speaker 4: if because Obviously Dan had to have a heart, He 504 00:25:37,560 --> 00:25:41,120 Speaker 4: had to have enough motivation that we would willingly ride 505 00:25:41,160 --> 00:25:43,159 Speaker 4: the seesaw of we love him, we hate him, we 506 00:25:43,200 --> 00:25:45,920 Speaker 4: trust him, we don't trust him. Maybe he is a hero, 507 00:25:46,080 --> 00:25:49,480 Speaker 4: Maybe he is the fault for all of this. What's 508 00:25:49,560 --> 00:25:52,439 Speaker 4: frustrating to me about the Xavier and the terra of 509 00:25:52,480 --> 00:25:57,960 Speaker 4: it all, Like back when we met Xavier and Evans 510 00:25:58,160 --> 00:26:01,640 Speaker 4: character was living with him and the things we're all 511 00:26:01,680 --> 00:26:04,399 Speaker 4: going on with Sam and Jack, and you know, we 512 00:26:04,440 --> 00:26:06,199 Speaker 4: wanted to know what was happening to these kids. We 513 00:26:06,320 --> 00:26:10,920 Speaker 4: understood that this was like an unsafe guardian, that there 514 00:26:11,000 --> 00:26:13,200 Speaker 4: was something that had really gone wrong for a kid 515 00:26:13,240 --> 00:26:17,480 Speaker 4: to end up with this guy. And now he's back 516 00:26:18,080 --> 00:26:20,760 Speaker 4: and nothing makes any sense, and it's like he's just 517 00:26:20,800 --> 00:26:25,639 Speaker 4: a patent villain. And of course he has to be like, 518 00:26:25,760 --> 00:26:28,800 Speaker 4: oh yeah, and you shut your little wore mouth. I 519 00:26:28,800 --> 00:26:30,280 Speaker 4: have plans for that mouth. 520 00:26:30,320 --> 00:26:31,240 Speaker 2: It's like, cool me not. 521 00:26:32,359 --> 00:26:35,040 Speaker 4: First of all, Xavier's never known this woman to not 522 00:26:35,160 --> 00:26:38,359 Speaker 4: essentially be married to Julian and as a foster parent, 523 00:26:38,480 --> 00:26:40,879 Speaker 4: Like he didn't know. We're in high school. Let's all 524 00:26:40,920 --> 00:26:42,920 Speaker 4: take a break from what we used to say about her. 525 00:26:43,040 --> 00:26:44,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's right. 526 00:26:44,160 --> 00:26:46,920 Speaker 4: So It's like, why is the thing we always go 527 00:26:47,000 --> 00:26:51,879 Speaker 4: to that that men speak to women and about women 528 00:26:51,960 --> 00:26:57,600 Speaker 4: this way? It's so uninteresting and it's unmotivated. So it 529 00:26:57,800 --> 00:27:01,360 Speaker 4: just doubles down on that there is no why, and. 530 00:27:01,720 --> 00:27:06,000 Speaker 6: Let's just follow this storyline through to its end. I listen. 531 00:27:06,080 --> 00:27:11,400 Speaker 6: I loved the Tara twist because I didn't see it coming. However, 532 00:27:13,200 --> 00:27:17,919 Speaker 6: I did not understand. It was very odd to me 533 00:27:18,040 --> 00:27:21,120 Speaker 6: that all of a sudden Tara was able to behave 534 00:27:21,200 --> 00:27:25,840 Speaker 6: and interact like a normal rational person and the explanation 535 00:27:26,040 --> 00:27:29,440 Speaker 6: for everything was just her going, I need to sell 536 00:27:29,480 --> 00:27:34,120 Speaker 6: this cafe. Turns me into a bitch. It's like no, no, no, no, no, 537 00:27:34,560 --> 00:27:38,399 Speaker 6: a bitch is cutting someone off and parking or like flipping. No. 538 00:27:38,520 --> 00:27:44,200 Speaker 6: What you did was like sociopathic level behavior, so psychotic. Yeah, 539 00:27:44,320 --> 00:27:46,159 Speaker 6: it was. Listen to what it was was it was 540 00:27:46,200 --> 00:27:51,360 Speaker 6: a dude writing something and like doing women dirty. Was like, yeah, 541 00:27:52,040 --> 00:27:54,040 Speaker 6: that's what it was. It was just like lazy writing. 542 00:27:54,280 --> 00:27:57,440 Speaker 3: What I really appreciate about you as an actor, Sophia, 543 00:27:58,240 --> 00:28:02,359 Speaker 3: through all of this ridiculous you committed so completely to 544 00:28:02,400 --> 00:28:08,960 Speaker 3: the material, and I think it's probably in the benefit 545 00:28:09,000 --> 00:28:11,520 Speaker 3: of having been through so much on our show on 546 00:28:11,600 --> 00:28:15,440 Speaker 3: and off camera that it was almost like you were 547 00:28:16,240 --> 00:28:19,280 Speaker 3: you were worn out, and not in a way that 548 00:28:19,359 --> 00:28:22,679 Speaker 3: felt it didn't I didn't feel like it was like 549 00:28:22,720 --> 00:28:24,280 Speaker 3: not showing up to work. That's not what I mean. 550 00:28:24,320 --> 00:28:28,959 Speaker 3: It was almost like just I there was an exhaustion, 551 00:28:29,400 --> 00:28:32,760 Speaker 3: like as a woman that I connected with and understood 552 00:28:33,000 --> 00:28:36,560 Speaker 3: and with all of the stuff with Xavier, like he's 553 00:28:36,600 --> 00:28:40,360 Speaker 3: so over the top, and you kept it so so 554 00:28:40,640 --> 00:28:43,120 Speaker 3: under the surface, like you didn't. You didn't let it 555 00:28:43,160 --> 00:28:45,520 Speaker 3: all out and get all get like meet him on. 556 00:28:45,520 --> 00:28:48,480 Speaker 6: His level of didn't match his energy. 557 00:28:48,560 --> 00:28:50,240 Speaker 3: He didn't match his energy. And you did the same 558 00:28:50,240 --> 00:28:53,160 Speaker 3: thing with Tara when she I really appreciated this scene 559 00:28:53,160 --> 00:28:55,320 Speaker 3: when you came or the way you handled it when 560 00:28:55,320 --> 00:28:58,000 Speaker 3: she came and sat or leaned on the car next 561 00:28:58,000 --> 00:29:00,760 Speaker 3: to you and she's quipping and making all these funny 562 00:29:00,760 --> 00:29:03,960 Speaker 3: little remarks. And I could tell in the writing they 563 00:29:04,000 --> 00:29:07,400 Speaker 3: wanted you, guys to banter. They wanted you to banter 564 00:29:07,520 --> 00:29:09,560 Speaker 3: back with her and like, oh, well, thank god this 565 00:29:09,600 --> 00:29:12,160 Speaker 3: is over, yeah ha haha. And I just was like, 566 00:29:12,480 --> 00:29:16,560 Speaker 3: thank God, Sophia. It's just like I felt so much 567 00:29:16,640 --> 00:29:19,360 Speaker 3: confidence coming from you as a person to be able 568 00:29:19,400 --> 00:29:22,239 Speaker 3: to take Brooke into your hands at that moment and go, no, 569 00:29:22,720 --> 00:29:25,240 Speaker 3: I'm not I am not playing this game with the 570 00:29:25,240 --> 00:29:29,160 Speaker 3: writers and making light of this. This was an incredibly dramatic, 571 00:29:30,000 --> 00:29:33,120 Speaker 3: traumatic thing that has happened to real women, and we're 572 00:29:33,120 --> 00:29:35,400 Speaker 3: not gonna We're not just going to like make light 573 00:29:35,400 --> 00:29:37,680 Speaker 3: of it and make cute jokes at the end. So 574 00:29:37,880 --> 00:29:40,200 Speaker 3: no matter how much Tara was like trying to be 575 00:29:40,280 --> 00:29:42,720 Speaker 3: cute and poke at you and like be friends, you 576 00:29:42,800 --> 00:29:47,360 Speaker 3: just you responded like kindly, but you weren't playing along, 577 00:29:47,480 --> 00:29:49,240 Speaker 3: and I was so grateful that you did that. 578 00:29:49,840 --> 00:29:50,240 Speaker 4: Thank you. 579 00:29:50,560 --> 00:29:50,920 Speaker 3: Yeah. 580 00:29:51,000 --> 00:29:54,080 Speaker 4: Yeah, It's one of the things that I think, looking 581 00:29:54,120 --> 00:29:57,120 Speaker 4: back on this journey with all of. 582 00:29:57,120 --> 00:30:01,000 Speaker 2: Us, it's really cool to see the ways. 583 00:30:02,600 --> 00:30:08,600 Speaker 4: We all learned to humanly navigate our characters, because look, 584 00:30:08,680 --> 00:30:12,240 Speaker 4: who's the biggest advocate for your character if not you? Right, 585 00:30:12,800 --> 00:30:15,560 Speaker 4: like we fell for these people. I still feel such 586 00:30:16,440 --> 00:30:18,760 Speaker 4: love and pride for Brooke Davis. And when people are 587 00:30:18,760 --> 00:30:21,080 Speaker 4: like I'm her biggest fan, I'm like, I'm her biggest fan, 588 00:30:21,080 --> 00:30:22,440 Speaker 4: but you can be her secondliest fan. 589 00:30:23,360 --> 00:30:24,920 Speaker 3: Take a number, you know. 590 00:30:25,040 --> 00:30:30,360 Speaker 4: The way that there's just moments where I've thank you, Yes, 591 00:30:30,440 --> 00:30:32,000 Speaker 4: I'm I'm excited your. 592 00:30:31,960 --> 00:30:33,320 Speaker 3: Brain is running faster than your mouth. 593 00:30:33,400 --> 00:30:35,400 Speaker 4: I'm letting the compliment all the way in instead of 594 00:30:35,440 --> 00:30:38,160 Speaker 4: like trying to immediately move on to thirty thousand feet. 595 00:30:38,200 --> 00:30:41,920 Speaker 4: So I'm acknowledging saying and then I'll keep going. But 596 00:30:42,720 --> 00:30:46,600 Speaker 4: I've loved that for all of us. I've loved watching 597 00:30:46,600 --> 00:30:48,800 Speaker 4: each of you do it. I've loved watching our coworkers 598 00:30:48,840 --> 00:30:51,400 Speaker 4: do it where you know what was on the page 599 00:30:51,440 --> 00:30:55,480 Speaker 4: and you go, oh shit, look at that. Like we 600 00:30:55,480 --> 00:30:59,280 Speaker 4: we leaned into the human thing more than we leaned 601 00:30:59,320 --> 00:31:02,560 Speaker 4: into the gimmick. And sometimes they did want a gimmick. 602 00:31:02,640 --> 00:31:06,800 Speaker 4: Sometimes they would, you know, do something that on its 603 00:31:06,880 --> 00:31:10,280 Speaker 4: face is a little too far, like Xavier is scary 604 00:31:10,400 --> 00:31:15,320 Speaker 4: enough without intimating what he intimated in the scene. And 605 00:31:16,480 --> 00:31:18,960 Speaker 4: I love that we all got to a point in 606 00:31:19,000 --> 00:31:24,440 Speaker 4: our work where we knew how to sure say what's 607 00:31:24,480 --> 00:31:27,560 Speaker 4: on the page, but put completely other things into it. 608 00:31:28,720 --> 00:31:30,080 Speaker 2: I don't know, It's like one of the things I 609 00:31:30,080 --> 00:31:31,120 Speaker 2: feel the most. 610 00:31:32,400 --> 00:31:35,480 Speaker 4: Like nostalgic about when I watch all of us together, 611 00:31:35,560 --> 00:31:37,880 Speaker 4: I'm like, well, look at us. We really did some things, 612 00:31:38,400 --> 00:31:51,920 Speaker 4: and we were babies and we did some cool things. 613 00:31:53,600 --> 00:31:55,120 Speaker 3: Rob you had to do a lot of that too. 614 00:31:55,320 --> 00:31:57,880 Speaker 3: You did do a lot of taking material on the 615 00:31:57,880 --> 00:32:02,120 Speaker 3: page that was like, really even just the way the 616 00:32:02,160 --> 00:32:04,600 Speaker 3: words were in a sentence sometimes, you know, and you 617 00:32:04,920 --> 00:32:11,480 Speaker 3: managed to be captivating and interesting and make it feel realistic. 618 00:32:12,280 --> 00:32:16,280 Speaker 3: I mean, I really don't notice the lines until later. 619 00:32:16,480 --> 00:32:18,400 Speaker 3: It's like I'm watching the scene. I'm watching the scene, 620 00:32:18,400 --> 00:32:20,080 Speaker 3: and then you say it, and I'm like, they're with you, 621 00:32:20,160 --> 00:32:22,200 Speaker 3: and then something in the back of my brain goes, 622 00:32:22,720 --> 00:32:23,720 Speaker 3: what were those words? 623 00:32:24,840 --> 00:32:26,080 Speaker 2: Totally Oh my god. 624 00:32:27,520 --> 00:32:30,840 Speaker 4: But it's been so this episode in particular felt like 625 00:32:30,960 --> 00:32:32,160 Speaker 4: such a reward for you. 626 00:32:32,360 --> 00:32:32,560 Speaker 3: Rob. 627 00:32:32,800 --> 00:32:38,240 Speaker 4: Yes, yes, you've had to just commit to so much 628 00:32:38,320 --> 00:32:42,280 Speaker 4: that's wild, and you've done it beautifully. But there was 629 00:32:42,360 --> 00:32:50,160 Speaker 4: this like quiet sparkle in the eye, like cricking your 630 00:32:50,200 --> 00:32:59,640 Speaker 4: smile leading sing man gorgeous, like romantic confidence in this 631 00:32:59,760 --> 00:33:02,280 Speaker 4: whole episode. I was like, I want to watch this. 632 00:33:02,440 --> 00:33:05,320 Speaker 4: I want to watch this. Clay do everything the way you, 633 00:33:05,720 --> 00:33:08,920 Speaker 4: the way Clay spoke to Quinn, the things you reflected on, 634 00:33:10,120 --> 00:33:16,280 Speaker 4: the way I saw you remember Logan say his first word, 635 00:33:16,280 --> 00:33:19,760 Speaker 4: and his first word being dad. When you sat down 636 00:33:19,920 --> 00:33:25,640 Speaker 4: to tell Sarah about what you've figured out, and it's 637 00:33:25,720 --> 00:33:28,440 Speaker 4: the most insane list of things that humans ever had 638 00:33:28,480 --> 00:33:31,360 Speaker 4: to say out loud, and it managed to be so 639 00:33:31,640 --> 00:33:36,960 Speaker 4: grounded and so charming. I I was like, oh my god, 640 00:33:37,000 --> 00:33:38,880 Speaker 4: I love my friend so much. Oh my god, look 641 00:33:38,920 --> 00:33:41,760 Speaker 4: at him. I like everything you've had to do in 642 00:33:41,840 --> 00:33:45,920 Speaker 4: this whole fugue storyline for me as a viewer and 643 00:33:46,000 --> 00:33:49,520 Speaker 4: as your friend, and like, it's it's triple worth it 644 00:33:49,680 --> 00:33:52,960 Speaker 4: to have gotten this episode to just watch you be 645 00:33:53,120 --> 00:33:54,520 Speaker 4: so connected to your story. 646 00:33:56,280 --> 00:33:58,200 Speaker 6: Thank you, thank you, You're beautiful. 647 00:33:58,440 --> 00:34:00,400 Speaker 3: Did you have a lot of planning for that, Rob, Like, 648 00:34:00,680 --> 00:34:02,400 Speaker 3: did they give you a heads up? Like, hey, in 649 00:34:02,440 --> 00:34:06,520 Speaker 3: the next episode, you're gonna come to and realize all 650 00:34:06,520 --> 00:34:09,719 Speaker 3: these things? And you know, like I guess what I'm 651 00:34:09,760 --> 00:34:13,080 Speaker 3: asking is there was such a clear difference in Clay 652 00:34:14,440 --> 00:34:17,120 Speaker 3: who he was in this fugue state and the confusion 653 00:34:17,320 --> 00:34:20,120 Speaker 3: and the self loathing and all of that, and then 654 00:34:20,200 --> 00:34:24,160 Speaker 3: this relief was like suddenly something broke. And I wasn't 655 00:34:24,200 --> 00:34:27,360 Speaker 3: sure if you had like a lot of intentional time 656 00:34:27,400 --> 00:34:30,040 Speaker 3: to plan all those little things that you were going 657 00:34:30,080 --> 00:34:32,200 Speaker 3: to do, or did it come really naturally as soon 658 00:34:32,239 --> 00:34:33,600 Speaker 3: as you found the script. 659 00:34:33,880 --> 00:34:36,439 Speaker 6: No. I mean, first of all, thank you that that's 660 00:34:37,080 --> 00:34:38,440 Speaker 6: means a lot to me. That was very sweet of 661 00:34:38,480 --> 00:34:40,920 Speaker 6: you to say all that no, because you know how 662 00:34:40,920 --> 00:34:43,799 Speaker 6: it is, like we didn't. They rarely gave us heads 663 00:34:43,840 --> 00:34:46,480 Speaker 6: up for stuff like that. Yeah, that was sort of 664 00:34:46,480 --> 00:34:48,920 Speaker 6: their emma was like occasionally you hear something or you 665 00:34:48,920 --> 00:34:50,760 Speaker 6: would go to them to be like what is happening 666 00:34:50,800 --> 00:34:52,680 Speaker 6: and they'd be like, it's eventually going to be this. 667 00:34:53,440 --> 00:34:56,680 Speaker 6: But I do remember that. I just remember thinking, because 668 00:34:57,080 --> 00:34:59,920 Speaker 6: my my north start always is like how can I 669 00:35:00,120 --> 00:35:03,360 Speaker 6: keep this as honest and grounded as possible? Like smaller, 670 00:35:03,480 --> 00:35:06,279 Speaker 6: not bigger. And I just remember thinking with Clay that 671 00:35:07,480 --> 00:35:09,680 Speaker 6: none of this during the fugue stuff, that is, like, 672 00:35:09,840 --> 00:35:12,200 Speaker 6: none of this can be as grounded as I want 673 00:35:12,200 --> 00:35:14,839 Speaker 6: it to be because Clay is not grounded right now. 674 00:35:14,880 --> 00:35:18,920 Speaker 6: He's he's a man unmoored. And this was the first 675 00:35:18,960 --> 00:35:21,360 Speaker 6: episode where I felt like, Okay, now he gets to 676 00:35:21,440 --> 00:35:26,120 Speaker 6: drop back into himself and be grounded. And the dialogue 677 00:35:26,200 --> 00:35:29,080 Speaker 6: was also such a gift given like how ridiculous even 678 00:35:29,120 --> 00:35:30,960 Speaker 6: the episode prior was some of the things I had 679 00:35:31,000 --> 00:35:35,359 Speaker 6: to say. I love that first scene in UH with 680 00:35:35,440 --> 00:35:38,640 Speaker 6: Clay and Quinn in the car because I love that 681 00:35:39,160 --> 00:35:42,560 Speaker 6: we finally got to see and it's happened in smaller moments, 682 00:35:42,560 --> 00:35:46,600 Speaker 6: but like a dedicated moment of Clay just expressing his 683 00:35:46,719 --> 00:35:47,840 Speaker 6: gratitude for Quinn. 684 00:35:48,280 --> 00:35:48,520 Speaker 2: Yes. 685 00:35:49,000 --> 00:35:53,480 Speaker 6: I was like, because this is this is so necessary, it's. 686 00:35:53,280 --> 00:35:56,440 Speaker 3: So achieved and sticking around. 687 00:35:56,360 --> 00:35:59,640 Speaker 6: One hundred percent. And I think if we hadn't seen that, 688 00:36:00,080 --> 00:36:03,839 Speaker 6: it would have actually worked to Clay's detriment because it 689 00:36:03,880 --> 00:36:05,920 Speaker 6: was like, are you not self aware enough to see 690 00:36:06,000 --> 00:36:08,760 Speaker 6: what she's put herself through to be by your side? 691 00:36:09,040 --> 00:36:10,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, what she's done for you. 692 00:36:10,560 --> 00:36:12,960 Speaker 6: I love that the starting point of this journey for 693 00:36:13,000 --> 00:36:16,560 Speaker 6: the two of them was Clay seeing her and appreciating her. 694 00:36:17,080 --> 00:36:19,279 Speaker 6: That was a very sweet starting point. And then I 695 00:36:19,320 --> 00:36:23,880 Speaker 6: thought the grave scene, my favorite part was when he 696 00:36:23,920 --> 00:36:28,600 Speaker 6: said Quinn says hi, because it just felt like this 697 00:36:28,840 --> 00:36:33,839 Speaker 6: very like a wholesome, organic thing where it was like 698 00:36:34,760 --> 00:36:37,080 Speaker 6: there was no shame in it. He didn't feel any 699 00:36:37,120 --> 00:36:39,560 Speaker 6: guilt about it, you know, and he even said like 700 00:36:39,640 --> 00:36:42,040 Speaker 6: you were right because remember like last season, I think 701 00:36:42,080 --> 00:36:45,400 Speaker 6: it was that Sarah was saying, like, dumb, dumb, answer 702 00:36:45,520 --> 00:36:48,560 Speaker 6: the door. She's the one, you know, And so it 703 00:36:48,600 --> 00:36:51,279 Speaker 6: was just great that, Like I loved the clarity with 704 00:36:51,360 --> 00:36:54,160 Speaker 6: Clay where he wasn't feeling guilty or torn about it 705 00:36:54,200 --> 00:36:56,880 Speaker 6: and instead he was just like I love you, and 706 00:36:56,920 --> 00:36:59,239 Speaker 6: you were right and like, holy shit, by the way 707 00:36:59,280 --> 00:37:01,560 Speaker 6: she says, Hi, you know, it was almost like, let's 708 00:37:01,560 --> 00:37:03,480 Speaker 6: be friends, the three of us, Now, this can all 709 00:37:03,480 --> 00:37:07,399 Speaker 6: be cool and copasetic. And so I liked that a lot. 710 00:37:08,000 --> 00:37:10,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, it felt such a relief. It was a damn 711 00:37:10,640 --> 00:37:13,640 Speaker 3: breaking He was finally letting Quinn in, letting Quinn be 712 00:37:13,719 --> 00:37:17,000 Speaker 3: a part of this whole part of his inner world, 713 00:37:17,560 --> 00:37:20,439 Speaker 3: like no wonder he'd been trying to kind of keep 714 00:37:20,440 --> 00:37:24,160 Speaker 3: her at arm's length because there's something unfinished in his mind. 715 00:37:24,640 --> 00:37:27,839 Speaker 6: Did either of you think, because I didn't remember any 716 00:37:27,880 --> 00:37:31,440 Speaker 6: of this, that he was driving to pick up Logan. 717 00:37:32,200 --> 00:37:33,880 Speaker 3: I thought Logan might be in the back seat, but 718 00:37:33,880 --> 00:37:34,600 Speaker 3: because when he. 719 00:37:34,560 --> 00:37:37,680 Speaker 6: Was he was dressed up nice and he had flowers, 720 00:37:37,800 --> 00:37:40,919 Speaker 6: and then he was obviously nervous, I thought, oh, he's 721 00:37:40,920 --> 00:37:45,600 Speaker 6: showing up to Sarah's parents' house to like talk to Logan. 722 00:37:45,719 --> 00:37:48,399 Speaker 3: Yeah, I was watching you too, It didn't I wasn't 723 00:37:48,440 --> 00:37:50,040 Speaker 3: looking for that, did you think it? 724 00:37:50,160 --> 00:37:50,239 Speaker 5: So? 725 00:37:51,239 --> 00:37:53,360 Speaker 4: At one point I was like, where are they going? 726 00:37:54,360 --> 00:37:56,839 Speaker 4: But then I was so interested in the scene that 727 00:37:56,920 --> 00:38:02,000 Speaker 4: it didn't matter. And interestingly enough, then when you guys 728 00:38:02,120 --> 00:38:03,719 Speaker 4: were pulling up to the cemetery. 729 00:38:03,880 --> 00:38:07,600 Speaker 2: I was like, is some dude, are they lost? 730 00:38:07,840 --> 00:38:11,040 Speaker 4: Like it's so hilarious thing about to happen that I 731 00:38:11,080 --> 00:38:13,560 Speaker 4: don't remember. And then when she said I'll be right here, 732 00:38:13,600 --> 00:38:13,840 Speaker 4: I was. 733 00:38:13,840 --> 00:38:14,480 Speaker 6: Like, oh, my God. 734 00:38:14,520 --> 00:38:16,319 Speaker 3: Of course, of course, of. 735 00:38:16,280 --> 00:38:16,920 Speaker 2: Course, of course. 736 00:38:17,719 --> 00:38:22,480 Speaker 4: I was so enamored by you two and where Clay 737 00:38:22,560 --> 00:38:28,960 Speaker 4: had gotten to and interestingly enough, watching the dynamic of 738 00:38:29,040 --> 00:38:32,200 Speaker 4: Clay and Quinn and watching the choices that Sean Tell made, 739 00:38:32,880 --> 00:38:37,439 Speaker 4: I was like, Oh, it's not in her dialogue at 740 00:38:37,440 --> 00:38:39,920 Speaker 4: all in this episode to say I knew you were 741 00:38:39,960 --> 00:38:44,640 Speaker 4: worth the weight. That's what she's giving me. Yeah, And 742 00:38:44,160 --> 00:38:47,839 Speaker 4: the energy was just so lovely. I was having such 743 00:38:47,880 --> 00:38:51,920 Speaker 4: a good time watching you two that I wasn't really 744 00:38:52,080 --> 00:38:54,440 Speaker 4: concerned with, like what you were doing. 745 00:38:55,280 --> 00:38:55,480 Speaker 7: Yeah. 746 00:38:55,520 --> 00:39:01,000 Speaker 2: But one thing that really got me when you first 747 00:39:01,040 --> 00:39:03,200 Speaker 2: walked up to the headstone. 748 00:39:04,320 --> 00:39:08,680 Speaker 8: Was you sat down and you said hi, Angel, and 749 00:39:08,760 --> 00:39:14,840 Speaker 8: I was like, oh, because to have loved and lost 750 00:39:14,960 --> 00:39:19,440 Speaker 8: someone is so profound at a young age, and to 751 00:39:19,640 --> 00:39:20,520 Speaker 8: have to then. 752 00:39:20,520 --> 00:39:25,120 Speaker 4: Figure out how to make space for someone else in 753 00:39:25,160 --> 00:39:27,800 Speaker 4: the land of the living when your person has died 754 00:39:28,160 --> 00:39:35,080 Speaker 4: is so it's so complex. And there was this joy 755 00:39:35,200 --> 00:39:38,759 Speaker 4: in your voice when you said it, and It's such 756 00:39:38,800 --> 00:39:41,480 Speaker 4: a term of endearment that people will say to their partners, 757 00:39:42,560 --> 00:39:47,160 Speaker 4: but the double entendre of like Sarah really is Clay's angel. 758 00:39:47,239 --> 00:39:54,520 Speaker 4: Now I lost it. I was like, that's that's it. 759 00:39:55,920 --> 00:39:59,520 Speaker 4: And for you to have these things to share and 760 00:39:59,560 --> 00:40:01,920 Speaker 4: then to say and Quinn says hi, I was like, 761 00:40:02,000 --> 00:40:06,520 Speaker 4: it's bookended this journey for him to actually be able 762 00:40:06,560 --> 00:40:11,920 Speaker 4: to move on, I sobbed. Yeah, it was beautiful. 763 00:40:12,000 --> 00:40:12,839 Speaker 3: Robbie needed it. 764 00:40:13,120 --> 00:40:15,160 Speaker 6: That was really nice. And hey, come on, speaking of 765 00:40:15,200 --> 00:40:19,840 Speaker 6: father son stuff, let's circle back because Dan saves the 766 00:40:19,960 --> 00:40:24,799 Speaker 6: day and there's a moment when I just again, all 767 00:40:24,840 --> 00:40:29,680 Speaker 6: of Paul was so freaking heroic, like walking slow mo 768 00:40:30,640 --> 00:40:36,280 Speaker 6: a shotgun with never never. I was swooning start to finish. 769 00:40:36,600 --> 00:40:39,720 Speaker 6: But I loved that once he he and Nathan are together, 770 00:40:40,560 --> 00:40:42,800 Speaker 6: he's like checking in on Nathan and then he's like, 771 00:40:42,800 --> 00:40:44,759 Speaker 6: all right, I'm gonna go check the next room, and 772 00:40:44,880 --> 00:40:47,520 Speaker 6: Nathan stops him and says, Dad, it's good to see 773 00:40:47,560 --> 00:40:51,920 Speaker 6: you and to see you. I felt that like Paul 774 00:40:51,960 --> 00:40:54,040 Speaker 6: didn't make a meal of it, but you could tell 775 00:40:54,080 --> 00:40:58,760 Speaker 6: it was like it was like water for Dan's parched soul. 776 00:40:59,160 --> 00:41:03,239 Speaker 3: Yes, I really I'm realizing as you're saying this, like 777 00:41:03,800 --> 00:41:06,680 Speaker 3: this was such an episode for the actors, just for 778 00:41:06,800 --> 00:41:11,360 Speaker 3: all of us to be able to see how real 779 00:41:11,400 --> 00:41:18,200 Speaker 3: actors can handle material, that the material could have pushed 780 00:41:18,200 --> 00:41:19,359 Speaker 3: all of us into a. 781 00:41:19,320 --> 00:41:21,440 Speaker 6: Real big place. 782 00:41:23,280 --> 00:41:25,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm trying to find a nice vocabulary work for it, 783 00:41:25,600 --> 00:41:28,480 Speaker 3: but I can't quite. But yeah, it's it just feels 784 00:41:29,200 --> 00:41:31,120 Speaker 3: it feels like it could have been super over the top. 785 00:41:31,719 --> 00:41:34,880 Speaker 3: It absolutely could have. And the fact that everybody just 786 00:41:34,960 --> 00:41:38,200 Speaker 3: contained it. We all know our characters so well. Everybody 787 00:41:38,320 --> 00:41:41,759 Speaker 3: just held on to it, kept it real close to 788 00:41:41,800 --> 00:41:44,520 Speaker 3: the vest. And that's what draws you in. I think 789 00:41:44,560 --> 00:41:47,319 Speaker 3: as an audience member, you lean in because we're not 790 00:41:47,360 --> 00:41:49,640 Speaker 3: putting all the emotions out on top of everything, even 791 00:41:49,680 --> 00:41:52,200 Speaker 3: though the words are and the action is. 792 00:41:52,719 --> 00:41:56,240 Speaker 6: Yeah, and how about I mean, the twist didn't stop coming. 793 00:41:57,280 --> 00:42:01,080 Speaker 6: So we see Dan gets shot and then we see 794 00:42:01,160 --> 00:42:04,319 Speaker 6: him fall onto Nathan. But it's a clever shot because 795 00:42:04,320 --> 00:42:07,279 Speaker 6: it's about it's like a it's it's like a two 796 00:42:07,320 --> 00:42:09,440 Speaker 6: te it's like basically from his belly button up is 797 00:42:09,440 --> 00:42:13,600 Speaker 6: the shot essentially, and he just says, I'm so sorry, son, 798 00:42:14,200 --> 00:42:16,680 Speaker 6: and then he falls down, and what we've come to 799 00:42:16,760 --> 00:42:19,279 Speaker 6: find out though, is that he had tucked his gun. 800 00:42:19,160 --> 00:42:21,480 Speaker 2: Into Nathanson's waist hand line? 801 00:42:21,560 --> 00:42:22,440 Speaker 6: Yeah, waistband? 802 00:42:22,680 --> 00:42:24,400 Speaker 3: Oh is that where it came from? 803 00:42:24,560 --> 00:42:26,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, I was in Dan's hand. 804 00:42:26,680 --> 00:42:29,120 Speaker 6: That's why the shot was a little higher. Otherwise you've 805 00:42:29,120 --> 00:42:29,880 Speaker 6: seen it happen. 806 00:42:30,200 --> 00:42:32,480 Speaker 3: I was waiting for Dan to turn around and shoot. 807 00:42:32,760 --> 00:42:35,520 Speaker 4: When Dan puts his arms around Nathan, he tucks it 808 00:42:35,560 --> 00:42:36,240 Speaker 4: in his waist. 809 00:42:37,200 --> 00:42:40,480 Speaker 6: So it's like his last move actually was enabling his 810 00:42:40,560 --> 00:42:47,120 Speaker 6: son to save himself. Heroic. Yeah it was good man. Okay, 811 00:42:47,160 --> 00:42:50,560 Speaker 6: did anyone what was your reaction when then the cop 812 00:42:50,680 --> 00:42:51,479 Speaker 6: runs in the room. 813 00:42:52,000 --> 00:42:55,120 Speaker 4: I just was like, oh, come on, Like, we can't 814 00:42:55,160 --> 00:42:59,280 Speaker 4: have one minute, but I will say what I loved. 815 00:43:00,840 --> 00:43:03,600 Speaker 4: I loved getting a button on the on the Buddy 816 00:43:03,640 --> 00:43:08,279 Speaker 4: comedy of Dan, Julian and Chris because I wasn't expecting it. 817 00:43:09,080 --> 00:43:11,799 Speaker 4: I did not remember that Julian came in as the 818 00:43:11,840 --> 00:43:15,120 Speaker 4: foil at the end either all. And it was so 819 00:43:15,320 --> 00:43:18,040 Speaker 4: great because it's exactly what you brought up earlier, Rob. 820 00:43:18,080 --> 00:43:23,560 Speaker 4: It's it's all these guys figuring it out together and 821 00:43:23,680 --> 00:43:27,919 Speaker 4: Julian saying essentially saying to Dan, I don't really care 822 00:43:27,960 --> 00:43:30,359 Speaker 4: what you consider my friendship with your son. To be. 823 00:43:31,440 --> 00:43:34,560 Speaker 4: He's my friend, so I'll show up for him. 824 00:43:34,520 --> 00:43:36,160 Speaker 2: Like it's such a it's. 825 00:43:36,000 --> 00:43:40,200 Speaker 4: Such a gesture, and I think, I don't know, it's 826 00:43:40,239 --> 00:43:44,200 Speaker 4: a It's a really nice reminder about you know, your 827 00:43:44,239 --> 00:43:47,520 Speaker 4: integrity and what you can do when you can for people, 828 00:43:47,680 --> 00:43:52,880 Speaker 4: and him coming in at the end was a lovely payoff. 829 00:43:53,719 --> 00:43:55,759 Speaker 4: But man, when the cop came around the corner, I 830 00:43:55,760 --> 00:43:57,120 Speaker 4: was like, you gotta be kidding me. 831 00:43:57,160 --> 00:43:57,760 Speaker 2: I was pissed. 832 00:43:58,120 --> 00:43:59,040 Speaker 3: They were all there. 833 00:44:00,320 --> 00:44:03,800 Speaker 6: Yeah, I when he walked in, I'm like, come on. 834 00:44:04,400 --> 00:44:06,160 Speaker 6: Especially by this point in the episode, there's almost like 835 00:44:06,200 --> 00:44:08,680 Speaker 6: a drenal fatigue where we've had so many. 836 00:44:08,280 --> 00:44:12,600 Speaker 3: Ye and then and then, but that cop had to go, 837 00:44:12,719 --> 00:44:15,279 Speaker 3: Like we had to resolve that ycause everybody knew he 838 00:44:15,320 --> 00:44:16,720 Speaker 3: was outstanding. 839 00:44:16,440 --> 00:44:19,960 Speaker 6: And it created the space for Julian to have that 840 00:44:20,160 --> 00:44:23,319 Speaker 6: sweet hero moment. So yeah, I allowed it. But when 841 00:44:23,360 --> 00:44:25,600 Speaker 6: it first started to happen, I was like, let this 842 00:44:25,920 --> 00:44:31,399 Speaker 6: freaking guy get out of here already. Yeah, it was. 843 00:44:31,520 --> 00:44:32,040 Speaker 6: It was great. 844 00:44:32,080 --> 00:44:33,319 Speaker 2: Though, where are kids? 845 00:44:33,360 --> 00:44:34,960 Speaker 3: By the way, isn't. 846 00:44:34,880 --> 00:44:36,440 Speaker 6: Jamie with oh those kids? 847 00:44:36,560 --> 00:44:36,759 Speaker 7: Yeah? 848 00:44:36,840 --> 00:44:40,200 Speaker 2: Good questions. There was not a child in this episode. 849 00:44:40,400 --> 00:44:42,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, I get Haley. Maybe he's got Jamie 850 00:44:42,560 --> 00:44:44,440 Speaker 3: but maybe Haley's looking at it, but it's just the 851 00:44:44,440 --> 00:44:46,279 Speaker 3: fact that brook shows up at the cafe and then 852 00:44:46,680 --> 00:44:49,160 Speaker 3: she's still cleaning up twelve hours later, and then Julian's 853 00:44:49,160 --> 00:44:49,759 Speaker 3: gone all day. 854 00:44:50,239 --> 00:44:51,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, somebody's gotta have it. 855 00:44:52,160 --> 00:44:54,960 Speaker 6: They're back at home with Brooks common sense and survival. 856 00:44:56,320 --> 00:44:58,560 Speaker 4: Also, can I just say one thing, And I remember, 857 00:44:58,800 --> 00:45:02,560 Speaker 4: sweet Greg, who I believe directed this episode, really had 858 00:45:02,600 --> 00:45:05,319 Speaker 4: to talk me through this because there was all sorts 859 00:45:05,360 --> 00:45:08,759 Speaker 4: of things that felt ridiculous. When the power went out 860 00:45:09,400 --> 00:45:11,080 Speaker 4: and they were like, and then you're gonna light the 861 00:45:11,080 --> 00:45:14,160 Speaker 4: scene with your iPhone flashlight and I was like, yeah, okay, 862 00:45:14,480 --> 00:45:16,719 Speaker 4: so obviously you know, you turn on a flashlight, you 863 00:45:16,760 --> 00:45:19,759 Speaker 4: point it out, and then they're like, but we can't 864 00:45:19,760 --> 00:45:21,960 Speaker 4: see you, so you have to light yourself with the flashlight. 865 00:45:22,000 --> 00:45:26,200 Speaker 4: And I'm like, I have to be dumb enough to 866 00:45:26,400 --> 00:45:31,000 Speaker 4: shine my phone flashlight in my own face in the dark. 867 00:45:31,080 --> 00:45:33,120 Speaker 4: And literally Greg looked at me, he goes, I know, 868 00:45:33,920 --> 00:45:38,400 Speaker 4: I'm sorry, but I need you to light yourself. So 869 00:45:38,480 --> 00:45:41,600 Speaker 4: we literally had to figure out like Okay, I'll turn 870 00:45:41,640 --> 00:45:45,799 Speaker 4: it on, i'll swipe out, i'll come around, i'll look 871 00:45:45,960 --> 00:45:49,160 Speaker 4: past it. We had to do all this dancing to 872 00:45:49,480 --> 00:45:53,279 Speaker 4: try to not have me look dumb enough to shine 873 00:45:53,280 --> 00:45:54,640 Speaker 4: a flashlight in my own eyes. 874 00:45:54,880 --> 00:45:57,080 Speaker 3: And I was just like, I mean, thank god he 875 00:45:57,120 --> 00:45:59,520 Speaker 3: at least acknowledged it and acknowledged it and didn't try 876 00:45:59,560 --> 00:46:01,440 Speaker 3: and make it. Yeah, I'm like, oh, well, your motivation 877 00:46:01,520 --> 00:46:03,080 Speaker 3: could be blah blah BLUs you No, it. 878 00:46:03,120 --> 00:46:05,759 Speaker 2: Was like I know, I need you to do it. 879 00:46:05,800 --> 00:46:08,160 Speaker 3: And I was like, okay, it didn't cross my mind 880 00:46:08,200 --> 00:46:09,719 Speaker 3: once if that helps it. 881 00:46:10,040 --> 00:46:12,600 Speaker 4: The muscle memory came right out when I did this 882 00:46:12,880 --> 00:46:13,880 Speaker 4: and then this, I was. 883 00:46:13,880 --> 00:46:19,280 Speaker 6: Like that flash you're you're a legend because you already 884 00:46:19,320 --> 00:46:21,360 Speaker 6: had you had your work cut out for you on 885 00:46:21,400 --> 00:46:25,080 Speaker 6: this one, because the Brook Xavier storyline was definitely just 886 00:46:25,160 --> 00:46:28,200 Speaker 6: the like what are we what's happening? And then the 887 00:46:28,280 --> 00:46:31,279 Speaker 6: fact that because that's the kind of thing like you 888 00:46:31,760 --> 00:46:34,680 Speaker 6: can't crush an actor's spirit and you're already asking them 889 00:46:34,880 --> 00:46:39,080 Speaker 6: to like do some serious heavy lifting and like logic suspension. 890 00:46:39,440 --> 00:46:41,239 Speaker 6: So the fact that you had to do the storyline 891 00:46:41,360 --> 00:46:45,279 Speaker 6: and also again, you are an intelligent adult who's been 892 00:46:45,280 --> 00:46:48,000 Speaker 6: in the world for a while. Shine your flashlight not 893 00:46:48,080 --> 00:46:50,680 Speaker 6: at your surroundings but into your own face. 894 00:46:51,200 --> 00:46:53,920 Speaker 3: Yeah, that breaks the camera exactly. 895 00:46:53,680 --> 00:46:55,360 Speaker 6: That can easily be the note where you're like, you 896 00:46:55,400 --> 00:47:02,800 Speaker 6: know what, Nah, I'll trailer quick, I'll be in my trailer. 897 00:47:02,960 --> 00:47:04,520 Speaker 3: Yeah. 898 00:47:04,800 --> 00:47:08,239 Speaker 4: I was like, okay, so I have to be a 899 00:47:08,280 --> 00:47:11,879 Speaker 4: moron and my own DP today, got it, got it? 900 00:47:11,920 --> 00:47:13,920 Speaker 2: But you know what, we did it and here we are. 901 00:47:14,480 --> 00:47:18,920 Speaker 6: Great episode. I am very curious what we're going to 902 00:47:19,000 --> 00:47:22,520 Speaker 6: do in the next three right gosh, because I feel 903 00:47:22,560 --> 00:47:26,200 Speaker 6: like we've I only know one thing. I know Clay 904 00:47:26,400 --> 00:47:30,399 Speaker 6: and Quinn and Logan's endgame, but I really recall anything else. 905 00:47:30,440 --> 00:47:33,279 Speaker 6: So I'm very curious to see what we have three 906 00:47:33,320 --> 00:47:33,920 Speaker 6: episodes of. 907 00:47:34,480 --> 00:47:37,600 Speaker 4: Yeah, Like, I'm so excited. I am just so excited 908 00:47:37,640 --> 00:47:39,239 Speaker 4: for the Haley and Nathan reunion. 909 00:47:39,960 --> 00:47:40,560 Speaker 6: Me doo. 910 00:47:41,040 --> 00:47:45,520 Speaker 4: And it's interesting too. You know, we didn't talk about this, 911 00:47:45,600 --> 00:47:48,000 Speaker 4: and I want to before the episode's over. You know, 912 00:47:48,040 --> 00:47:50,279 Speaker 4: it's not lost on me that this is exactly when 913 00:47:50,320 --> 00:47:55,000 Speaker 4: you should have essentially been on like Matt leave and weren't, 914 00:47:55,280 --> 00:47:57,239 Speaker 4: so you had to come to work and you still 915 00:47:57,239 --> 00:48:00,239 Speaker 4: had a very young baby at home. I thought, with 916 00:48:01,640 --> 00:48:06,120 Speaker 4: the way this episode really segmented into different verticals, I 917 00:48:06,200 --> 00:48:08,959 Speaker 4: was like, wow, you know they're doing right by Joy 918 00:48:09,000 --> 00:48:12,120 Speaker 4: by giving her some serious time off. With her new baby, 919 00:48:12,960 --> 00:48:17,520 Speaker 4: and the way they used you in the house, moving 920 00:48:17,640 --> 00:48:21,840 Speaker 4: around kind of trapped with your own memories and anxiety. 921 00:48:21,880 --> 00:48:23,720 Speaker 4: Even the fact that they put you on the treadmill 922 00:48:23,800 --> 00:48:28,080 Speaker 4: for that one scene so short, nothing said, but it 923 00:48:28,160 --> 00:48:33,400 Speaker 4: communicated so much about this woman feels trapped inside in 924 00:48:34,040 --> 00:48:34,680 Speaker 4: her mind. 925 00:48:34,480 --> 00:48:38,839 Speaker 2: In her life. And I don't know. I loved. I 926 00:48:38,920 --> 00:48:39,840 Speaker 2: loved the way. 927 00:48:39,640 --> 00:48:43,239 Speaker 4: That they did things because I thought they were a 928 00:48:43,280 --> 00:48:48,160 Speaker 4: great storytelling with you know, limited time and be that 929 00:48:48,960 --> 00:48:52,719 Speaker 4: on a show where we very rarely were considered as 930 00:48:52,840 --> 00:48:56,240 Speaker 4: people by the people in charge. I was like, good, 931 00:48:56,440 --> 00:48:59,520 Speaker 4: good for them, Good for them for like not just 932 00:48:59,560 --> 00:49:02,439 Speaker 4: making her do a bunch of frivolous stuff, especially after 933 00:49:02,600 --> 00:49:05,200 Speaker 4: like the Morgue episode and everything. I liked that they 934 00:49:05,239 --> 00:49:07,719 Speaker 4: gave you a beat to just like be a human 935 00:49:07,760 --> 00:49:10,440 Speaker 4: did too, before you get some happiness. 936 00:49:10,719 --> 00:49:14,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, and it worked because she knew what Dan was doing, 937 00:49:14,640 --> 00:49:16,960 Speaker 3: Like he kicked her out of the sound stage and 938 00:49:17,000 --> 00:49:18,880 Speaker 3: she's like, Okay, he's on it, and I just have 939 00:49:18,920 --> 00:49:19,759 Speaker 3: to wait. There's nothing else. 940 00:49:19,800 --> 00:49:20,480 Speaker 2: I just have to wait. 941 00:49:21,520 --> 00:49:24,160 Speaker 6: Yes, too, It's nice that we were able to probably 942 00:49:24,160 --> 00:49:25,799 Speaker 6: shoot you out in a day because you were just 943 00:49:25,840 --> 00:49:28,680 Speaker 6: at your on location. I also just want to remind 944 00:49:28,719 --> 00:49:32,040 Speaker 6: everyone that you had to tart yourself up to the 945 00:49:32,520 --> 00:49:36,839 Speaker 6: nice last episode and you had to run on a 946 00:49:37,000 --> 00:49:40,439 Speaker 6: treadmill in this episode. So while we were playing, while 947 00:49:40,440 --> 00:49:42,600 Speaker 6: the show was playing ball with you to an extent, 948 00:49:43,320 --> 00:49:46,880 Speaker 6: they weren't making it like overly easy. Oh, definitely not 949 00:49:47,080 --> 00:49:47,279 Speaker 6: on it. 950 00:49:47,360 --> 00:49:47,640 Speaker 7: Yeah. 951 00:49:47,960 --> 00:49:50,360 Speaker 3: Well, by the time I mean, I guess I had 952 00:49:51,040 --> 00:49:53,759 Speaker 3: Maria was probably about nine months by the time we 953 00:49:53,760 --> 00:49:57,200 Speaker 3: were shooting that, maybe a real months, yeah, because she 954 00:49:57,280 --> 00:49:59,759 Speaker 3: was born in February, so I think we shot that 955 00:50:00,280 --> 00:50:04,080 Speaker 3: in October because we were done by November. Yeah, so 956 00:50:04,120 --> 00:50:07,359 Speaker 3: we probably shot this like early October. So I was 957 00:50:07,440 --> 00:50:09,960 Speaker 3: pretty well healed and I was out for runs and 958 00:50:10,080 --> 00:50:12,239 Speaker 3: trying to drop the babywait and all that. So I 959 00:50:12,280 --> 00:50:19,600 Speaker 3: think physically I was I was doing okay, but it's 960 00:50:19,640 --> 00:50:21,520 Speaker 3: but yes, like still just to be able to have 961 00:50:21,560 --> 00:50:24,480 Speaker 3: time with her because she was born. We wrapped, we 962 00:50:24,520 --> 00:50:29,160 Speaker 3: had a hiatus, and then I came back. Yeah, and 963 00:50:29,239 --> 00:50:31,279 Speaker 3: a lot was different in my life, so it was 964 00:50:31,400 --> 00:50:32,600 Speaker 3: it was really helpful. 965 00:50:32,960 --> 00:50:35,560 Speaker 6: Before we wrap this up, I want to say I 966 00:50:35,600 --> 00:50:41,120 Speaker 6: loved the last shot of the episode of Haley watching 967 00:50:41,160 --> 00:50:44,319 Speaker 6: the videos of Nathan and the phone ring and just 968 00:50:44,440 --> 00:50:47,920 Speaker 6: it was such a simple shot of just you looking 969 00:50:47,960 --> 00:50:51,239 Speaker 6: at the phone, but as an audience member who was 970 00:50:51,280 --> 00:50:53,759 Speaker 6: putting all of their own stuff on it, I was like, 971 00:50:54,160 --> 00:50:56,200 Speaker 6: oh my god, kind of looks like she might know, 972 00:50:56,680 --> 00:50:59,479 Speaker 6: like she has intuition. And the fact that we didn't 973 00:50:59,480 --> 00:51:01,440 Speaker 6: get the payoff of seeing you pick up the phone. 974 00:51:01,440 --> 00:51:04,480 Speaker 6: I just thought that was such a smart, powerful way. 975 00:51:04,719 --> 00:51:06,320 Speaker 2: Wait didn't we I said, hello? 976 00:51:06,640 --> 00:51:09,799 Speaker 6: Well the hello, but then black oh yeah, yeah, yeah, sorry, 977 00:51:09,800 --> 00:51:12,200 Speaker 6: we didn't. We didn't get the reciprocity. Yeah, your side. 978 00:51:12,440 --> 00:51:15,239 Speaker 3: Was it Nathan's phone that was calling me? Because it 979 00:51:15,280 --> 00:51:17,520 Speaker 3: looked I couldn't quite tell, but the screen looked like 980 00:51:17,560 --> 00:51:19,200 Speaker 3: it said Nathan. That's why I was like, oh my god, 981 00:51:19,280 --> 00:51:21,279 Speaker 3: Nathan's phone is calling me. But what does this mean? 982 00:51:21,640 --> 00:51:22,800 Speaker 6: Was the true phone? 983 00:51:23,040 --> 00:51:24,440 Speaker 3: I thought it was a cell phone that I had. 984 00:51:24,480 --> 00:51:26,799 Speaker 4: That would be crazy you answered a cell phone, but 985 00:51:26,800 --> 00:51:29,560 Speaker 4: it would be crazy because they smashed Nathan's. 986 00:51:29,160 --> 00:51:32,960 Speaker 2: Phone to bits. Yeah, but I I was wondering. 987 00:51:33,120 --> 00:51:36,600 Speaker 4: I was like, oh my god, we've got Nathan and Julian. 988 00:51:36,760 --> 00:51:39,319 Speaker 4: Julian's pulling out his phone. Dan's been shot. Julian must 989 00:51:39,320 --> 00:51:43,040 Speaker 4: be calling nine one one. So I'm sitting there thinking, 990 00:51:43,360 --> 00:51:47,080 Speaker 4: is Nathan going to call her from Dan's phone. Julian's 991 00:51:47,080 --> 00:51:48,680 Speaker 4: going to call nine one one? And then is he 992 00:51:49,040 --> 00:51:51,080 Speaker 4: Is he going to call Haley immediately next? 993 00:51:51,320 --> 00:51:52,399 Speaker 2: Like what? 994 00:51:52,800 --> 00:51:55,560 Speaker 4: I started running through all the possibilities of who who 995 00:51:55,600 --> 00:51:56,640 Speaker 4: could be calling you? 996 00:51:57,239 --> 00:52:01,120 Speaker 3: Yeah? And wait, did we see Julian driving the car past? 997 00:52:01,480 --> 00:52:03,319 Speaker 3: Like we didn't see that? 998 00:52:03,480 --> 00:52:05,800 Speaker 6: Okay, No, we just saw him. I think we just 999 00:52:05,880 --> 00:52:07,759 Speaker 6: saw him on his phone. I believe. I think we 1000 00:52:07,800 --> 00:52:09,120 Speaker 6: heard him talking to nine one one. 1001 00:52:09,200 --> 00:52:09,399 Speaker 2: Yeah. 1002 00:52:09,400 --> 00:52:12,279 Speaker 4: They were kneeling over Dan and he pulled Nathan went 1003 00:52:12,320 --> 00:52:14,000 Speaker 4: to like put his hands on his chest. I guess 1004 00:52:14,080 --> 00:52:17,840 Speaker 4: to pressurize his wound. Julian pulled the phone out and 1005 00:52:17,920 --> 00:52:18,680 Speaker 4: started to die. 1006 00:52:18,920 --> 00:52:22,520 Speaker 5: Oh that's right, right, So it's like, oh, it was 1007 00:52:22,640 --> 00:52:26,799 Speaker 5: just such good suspense because we all know what we're 1008 00:52:26,840 --> 00:52:29,160 Speaker 5: waiting for, what we've been waiting for, is about to happen, 1009 00:52:29,200 --> 00:52:30,760 Speaker 5: and now we have to wait another week. 1010 00:52:31,280 --> 00:52:44,840 Speaker 7: Well we don't, but back then he did. 1011 00:52:45,800 --> 00:52:49,880 Speaker 6: Oh my gosh, this listener question is so good and 1012 00:52:50,239 --> 00:52:53,920 Speaker 6: so timely. Selene asks, if you were in the shoes 1013 00:52:54,000 --> 00:52:58,600 Speaker 6: of Logan's grandparents, how would you handle Clay remembering and 1014 00:52:58,680 --> 00:53:00,760 Speaker 6: wanting to come back into Logan's life. 1015 00:53:01,040 --> 00:53:03,759 Speaker 3: Ooh, we're gonna find out in the next episode how 1016 00:53:03,800 --> 00:53:07,960 Speaker 3: they handle it. But how would you, guys, how do 1017 00:53:08,000 --> 00:53:08,799 Speaker 3: you feel about that? 1018 00:53:09,200 --> 00:53:11,680 Speaker 6: I mean, you gotta be like, you gotta let it happen, 1019 00:53:11,719 --> 00:53:16,000 Speaker 6: but you also got to be a little guarded, right, Yeah. 1020 00:53:15,600 --> 00:53:22,680 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean that's his dad, and there's something interesting, right. 1021 00:53:22,760 --> 00:53:25,720 Speaker 4: I think there's a double edged sword with mental health 1022 00:53:26,560 --> 00:53:29,440 Speaker 4: because we understand how serious it is, and we also 1023 00:53:29,640 --> 00:53:33,280 Speaker 4: have historically been so dismissive and judgmental of people's mental health. 1024 00:53:34,040 --> 00:53:37,880 Speaker 4: So I immediately go to how evolved are they? How 1025 00:53:37,960 --> 00:53:40,360 Speaker 4: much therapy have they done? How much do they know that? 1026 00:53:40,440 --> 00:53:43,920 Speaker 4: There's no way your brain could have returned to this 1027 00:53:44,080 --> 00:53:48,160 Speaker 4: place with this person until it was ready to. And 1028 00:53:48,280 --> 00:53:50,400 Speaker 4: I would imagine, you know, he's six years old, if 1029 00:53:50,440 --> 00:53:54,799 Speaker 4: he's been living with his grandparents for five years. Of 1030 00:53:54,920 --> 00:53:59,360 Speaker 4: course they know he has parents, but they've been his 1031 00:53:59,440 --> 00:54:01,680 Speaker 4: primary care giver. They are the ones who give him, 1032 00:54:01,880 --> 00:54:03,640 Speaker 4: you know, his baths and put him to bed. 1033 00:54:03,680 --> 00:54:05,879 Speaker 2: And the loss of. 1034 00:54:07,280 --> 00:54:12,600 Speaker 4: The regularity with a child is so hard in a family, 1035 00:54:13,239 --> 00:54:15,759 Speaker 4: and so it must I mean, my god, I would 1036 00:54:15,800 --> 00:54:18,040 Speaker 4: imagine it would be so complicated for them. 1037 00:54:18,719 --> 00:54:18,919 Speaker 6: Yeah. 1038 00:54:18,960 --> 00:54:21,320 Speaker 3: I guess it depends on whether or not they told 1039 00:54:21,400 --> 00:54:23,919 Speaker 3: him did they like, are they what? 1040 00:54:24,120 --> 00:54:24,480 Speaker 2: How do you? 1041 00:54:24,560 --> 00:54:26,480 Speaker 3: What do you say to the First of all, clearly, 1042 00:54:26,480 --> 00:54:29,560 Speaker 3: they never showed him a photo of his own father, obviously, 1043 00:54:29,600 --> 00:54:32,479 Speaker 3: which is like, what only ever pictures of his mom 1044 00:54:32,560 --> 00:54:34,799 Speaker 3: who he knew died, but he they don't show So 1045 00:54:34,960 --> 00:54:37,680 Speaker 3: that's a huge hole in the story in the first place. 1046 00:54:37,680 --> 00:54:39,439 Speaker 3: And if they are the kind of people who did 1047 00:54:39,480 --> 00:54:44,759 Speaker 3: not show him the photo of his father, then I 1048 00:54:44,840 --> 00:54:48,319 Speaker 3: don't imagine they would be too keen to suddenly like 1049 00:54:48,640 --> 00:54:51,480 Speaker 3: just let him come back in. Would they also be 1050 00:54:52,400 --> 00:54:55,600 Speaker 3: the type to hide from him that his father even 1051 00:54:55,640 --> 00:54:57,680 Speaker 3: existed anymore, Like they could have made up a lie 1052 00:54:57,719 --> 00:55:00,280 Speaker 3: that's like, he doesn't he's he died with your mom? 1053 00:55:00,920 --> 00:55:02,200 Speaker 3: But are they gonna say he's out? 1054 00:55:02,239 --> 00:55:02,319 Speaker 6: Like? 1055 00:55:03,000 --> 00:55:03,880 Speaker 3: There's a lot of holes. 1056 00:55:04,400 --> 00:55:06,520 Speaker 6: Can I tell you one thing though, that that works 1057 00:55:06,560 --> 00:55:09,400 Speaker 6: in the favor of them letting the transition happen. I 1058 00:55:09,400 --> 00:55:13,640 Speaker 6: think a big factor is Quinn, because you could be 1059 00:55:13,680 --> 00:55:16,360 Speaker 6: afraid that like, what if his brain just does it again? 1060 00:55:16,960 --> 00:55:17,160 Speaker 4: Right? 1061 00:55:17,719 --> 00:55:20,319 Speaker 6: If it was just Clay by himself, that's a very 1062 00:55:20,440 --> 00:55:24,239 Speaker 6: valid fear totally, once you meet Clay or once you 1063 00:55:24,320 --> 00:55:27,280 Speaker 6: meet Quinn. I think seeing that there's a second grounded 1064 00:55:27,320 --> 00:55:30,239 Speaker 6: adult who lives in the house. Yeah, would sort of 1065 00:55:30,280 --> 00:55:31,520 Speaker 6: anchor the whole situation. 1066 00:55:31,600 --> 00:55:32,440 Speaker 3: That's a great point. 1067 00:55:32,560 --> 00:55:36,520 Speaker 4: Yeah, I would also imagine trying to put myself in 1068 00:55:36,600 --> 00:55:41,160 Speaker 4: those shoes as Selene is asking. Yeah, I think it 1069 00:55:41,200 --> 00:55:44,520 Speaker 4: would almost be like what parents do with grandparents, which is, 1070 00:55:44,560 --> 00:55:48,759 Speaker 4: as the kids get bigger, your grandparents aren't just you know, 1071 00:55:48,840 --> 00:55:50,759 Speaker 4: watching you on a Friday night. You can go spend 1072 00:55:50,760 --> 00:55:53,400 Speaker 4: the night, you can spend the weekend at you know, 1073 00:55:53,760 --> 00:55:56,680 Speaker 4: your mammy's house. You can whatever it is. And so 1074 00:55:56,760 --> 00:56:00,560 Speaker 4: I almost wonder if it's a version of that in reverse, like, yeah, 1075 00:56:00,600 --> 00:56:04,480 Speaker 4: Logan can start doing overnights with Clay and Quinn, and 1076 00:56:04,520 --> 00:56:06,560 Speaker 4: then he can do weekends and then maybe you go 1077 00:56:06,600 --> 00:56:10,240 Speaker 4: a week on a week off and see how he does. Yeah, 1078 00:56:10,280 --> 00:56:12,279 Speaker 4: everybody's going to have to go to therapy. There's going 1079 00:56:12,360 --> 00:56:15,319 Speaker 4: to have to be marriage and family counseling here. And 1080 00:56:15,400 --> 00:56:20,719 Speaker 4: if if it's working for Logan, if Logan is flourishing, 1081 00:56:21,200 --> 00:56:24,359 Speaker 4: if this little boy loves having his dad in his 1082 00:56:24,440 --> 00:56:27,600 Speaker 4: life and wants to live with his dad, then that 1083 00:56:27,719 --> 00:56:30,239 Speaker 4: probably would be the shift. But I would imagine it 1084 00:56:30,280 --> 00:56:34,000 Speaker 4: would take like six months to a year of creating 1085 00:56:34,080 --> 00:56:38,319 Speaker 4: new routines back and forth between Clay and Quinn's home 1086 00:56:38,400 --> 00:56:41,080 Speaker 4: and the home he's lived in his entire life of memory. 1087 00:56:41,719 --> 00:56:44,120 Speaker 6: Yeah, it's not going to happen on our show's timeline. 1088 00:56:44,120 --> 00:56:45,799 Speaker 2: It's not going to happen on our show's timeline, which 1089 00:56:45,800 --> 00:56:46,520 Speaker 2: is kind of a bummer. 1090 00:56:46,800 --> 00:56:48,799 Speaker 6: Pretty sure we expedite the heck out of it. 1091 00:56:49,000 --> 00:56:51,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I definitely would have been like the kind 1092 00:56:51,560 --> 00:56:54,160 Speaker 3: of I would have shown him photos of his dad. 1093 00:56:54,200 --> 00:56:56,840 Speaker 3: I would have talked to him about, Yeah, here's what happened. 1094 00:56:56,920 --> 00:56:59,680 Speaker 3: Your mom died and your dad had like a mental break, 1095 00:56:59,719 --> 00:57:02,719 Speaker 3: and we are just, you know, we're waiting for him 1096 00:57:02,719 --> 00:57:04,600 Speaker 3: to come around, and we're praying for him, and we're 1097 00:57:04,640 --> 00:57:07,640 Speaker 3: like hoping that when he's ready, it's time and and 1098 00:57:07,719 --> 00:57:10,319 Speaker 3: we'll but here's here's all the things about him and 1099 00:57:10,440 --> 00:57:13,080 Speaker 3: he it's not about you. It's not that he doesn't 1100 00:57:13,080 --> 00:57:15,560 Speaker 3: love you and all those things he said. 1101 00:57:15,640 --> 00:57:19,919 Speaker 2: Maybe he'll get better. Yeah, yeah, good question, Selene. That's 1102 00:57:19,920 --> 00:57:20,800 Speaker 2: a complex one. 1103 00:57:20,840 --> 00:57:22,600 Speaker 3: I like it though, And we should spin a wheel 1104 00:57:22,600 --> 00:57:23,520 Speaker 3: and we have an honorable mess. 1105 00:57:23,600 --> 00:57:24,840 Speaker 6: Oh my gosh, yeah, of course. 1106 00:57:24,960 --> 00:57:34,760 Speaker 3: Okay, let's spin a wheel first. Okay, Oh, Sophie and 1107 00:57:34,840 --> 00:57:36,600 Speaker 3: I are going to hit arm wrestle for this one. 1108 00:57:36,720 --> 00:57:40,160 Speaker 6: Yeah, it's us most likely to pick up a new 1109 00:57:40,240 --> 00:57:41,360 Speaker 6: hobby every week. 1110 00:57:41,600 --> 00:57:43,880 Speaker 2: Uh huh, Rob, do you have this inclination too? 1111 00:57:45,720 --> 00:57:51,480 Speaker 6: I learned everything about it, Adhd Baby. Yes, I will obsess. 1112 00:57:51,600 --> 00:57:53,240 Speaker 6: I will do my best to master it, and then 1113 00:57:53,280 --> 00:57:53,920 Speaker 6: I am bored. 1114 00:57:54,320 --> 00:57:56,920 Speaker 4: Oh yeah, I will obsess. I will do the research, 1115 00:57:57,040 --> 00:58:00,200 Speaker 4: I will get the things. Yeah, and then there's just 1116 00:58:00,240 --> 00:58:04,400 Speaker 4: a graveyard of things for hobbies and I probably actually 1117 00:58:04,480 --> 00:58:08,120 Speaker 4: start slash master like one in ten that I supply 1118 00:58:08,240 --> 00:58:08,880 Speaker 4: myself for. 1119 00:58:10,960 --> 00:58:14,840 Speaker 3: Yep, it's so good. You got so many hobby things. 1120 00:58:14,840 --> 00:58:17,160 Speaker 3: We could just host workshops and have somebody. We've got 1121 00:58:17,200 --> 00:58:17,960 Speaker 3: all the supplies. 1122 00:58:18,400 --> 00:58:20,240 Speaker 4: Honestly, that would be so fun because the minute you 1123 00:58:20,240 --> 00:58:21,520 Speaker 4: have a body double you can do it. 1124 00:58:21,760 --> 00:58:22,240 Speaker 3: That's right. 1125 00:58:22,360 --> 00:58:23,320 Speaker 2: So if we did like. 1126 00:58:23,400 --> 00:58:27,960 Speaker 4: Crafter noons, yes, on Saturdays, in the hypothetical world where 1127 00:58:28,000 --> 00:58:30,480 Speaker 4: we all live in the same city, that would be 1128 00:58:30,880 --> 00:58:31,640 Speaker 4: so cool. 1129 00:58:31,920 --> 00:58:34,840 Speaker 3: It feels like a convention op crafter Noon. 1130 00:58:35,360 --> 00:58:35,680 Speaker 2: Great. 1131 00:58:36,080 --> 00:58:39,120 Speaker 6: I'm in craft with Sophie and Joy. I'm sure I 1132 00:58:39,320 --> 00:58:40,120 Speaker 6: would want to do it. 1133 00:58:40,880 --> 00:58:42,120 Speaker 2: My can't counselor heart. 1134 00:58:42,320 --> 00:58:43,439 Speaker 3: Do we have an honorable mention? 1135 00:58:43,920 --> 00:58:44,160 Speaker 6: Paul? 1136 00:58:44,760 --> 00:58:47,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, for sure, he kind of. 1137 00:58:47,600 --> 00:58:49,760 Speaker 6: Everyone did great this episode, but he put it on 1138 00:58:49,800 --> 00:58:51,880 Speaker 6: his back and was just a star. 1139 00:58:52,520 --> 00:58:56,720 Speaker 4: And there's one moment in particular, and I say this 1140 00:58:57,680 --> 00:59:00,600 Speaker 4: not to undercut this seriousness of his per formance, but 1141 00:59:00,720 --> 00:59:05,200 Speaker 4: to add to it. When he looked at Chris Keller 1142 00:59:05,240 --> 00:59:08,840 Speaker 4: and said you called shotgun and handed him the sowd 1143 00:59:08,880 --> 00:59:11,920 Speaker 4: off shotgun, I was like chef's kiss. 1144 00:59:12,600 --> 00:59:14,800 Speaker 6: How About when he was walking away from Chris Keller 1145 00:59:14,880 --> 00:59:20,760 Speaker 6: and said, Dan Scott doesn't like this either. Chris Keller's speech, 1146 00:59:21,480 --> 00:59:24,360 Speaker 6: good way of it was so great? 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