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Speaker 1: Coming to you live from the Cross Country Mortgage Campus

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Speaker 1: in Barrea, Ohio. This is Cleveland Browns Daily, presented by

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Speaker 1: Browns on eight fifty ESPN Cleveland. Here are your hosts,

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Speaker 1: Bo Bishop and Nathan Zegura.

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Speaker 2: Let's live on a Tuesday edition of Cleveland Brown's Daily.

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Speaker 2: I am merely Bo, give me to my left and

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Speaker 2: the proud Papa is here. You were you got the

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Speaker 2: call to the bullpen? Thank god I did.

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Speaker 3: I didn't.

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Speaker 4: I thought you were. I thought you were on the turnpike.

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Speaker 4: So I wanted to help out. Give a nice pose.

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Speaker 3: Right there and love it.

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Speaker 2: I can.

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Speaker 4: I'm watching you guys. It just popped up on my

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Speaker 4: gosh Twitter, so I see you as I'm talking to.

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Speaker 2: So yeah, well, I'll say by Travail's for a little later.

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Speaker 2: How are we doing? How's I mean? We know, I know,

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Speaker 2: we know, but I mean, like for the audience. Here

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Speaker 2: we are week two with the young champion.

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Speaker 3: He's he's unbelievable. He really is unbelievable. Right now Nana

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Speaker 3: is feeding.

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Speaker 4: Him behind me right now as miss k is getting

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Speaker 4: having a little a little lunch and no Boots is

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Speaker 4: here and we're all just having baby great time. He's

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Speaker 4: been honestly goodness, Like the first night was we're like,

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Speaker 4: what have we done? And since then he's had five

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Speaker 4: nights in a row of perfect. He's slept great. He

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Speaker 4: went last night, I think he went eleven to two

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Speaker 4: thirty and then two thirty to six. Like that's that's doable.

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Speaker 4: We can live with that. So he's been, he's been great.

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Speaker 4: He's eating a ton, he's no surprise, he's definitely as

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Speaker 4: a girl. He's eating a ton. But he's been he's amazing. Like, honestly,

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Speaker 4: you know, everybody's biased for their own baby. He feels

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Speaker 4: like the perfect baby. He's just so dang cute and

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Speaker 4: good and happy and smiling, and it's it's awesome.

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Speaker 3: It's been awesome.

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Speaker 2: Can he take down a whole chicken breast in two

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Speaker 2: bites like his dad? Yet?

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Speaker 4: So I you know, on Saturday, in lieu of for

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Speaker 4: we weren't able to have like a big Father's Day

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Speaker 4: because Mikala's dad was out of town and then Jack

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Speaker 4: k was leaving town, and so we did we on

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Speaker 4: Saturday night, had I made the first prime rib of

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Speaker 4: Luca's career, and.

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Speaker 3: I really was upset. I got a lot of pushback.

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Speaker 4: I wanted to give him some like blended prime rib

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Speaker 4: in a zoo in a bottle, and people were totally

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Speaker 4: against it, right, They're like, you you can't even have water,

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Speaker 4: and I'm like, well, this isn't water, said, so that

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Speaker 4: doesn't seem like a problem. This is azu. These are beef,

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Speaker 4: you know, beef juices, juicues. Jesus, it's a juve. He's

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Speaker 4: drinking out of a bottle. What's the difference.

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Speaker 2: What's the difference that's for you to do that though?

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Speaker 2: Like when you when he gets to that point, that's

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Speaker 2: you remember those those are gonna be good ones, buddy.

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Speaker 3: Oh for sure, for sure, I'm all about it. Yeah.

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Speaker 4: I was just watching some I think it was like

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Speaker 4: an Instagram reel or something, and I showed to Miss

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Speaker 4: kay of somebody said it was there six months old

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Speaker 4: birthday and they made him like a giant ribbi and

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Speaker 4: he was just like gnawing on it and I don't

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Speaker 4: think he could eat it, but he was just kind

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Speaker 4: of like, you know, and I'm like, we.

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Speaker 3: Gotta do that.

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Speaker 2: I was like that that do that? Yeah, Yeah, what

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Speaker 2: how did he enjoy the US Open?

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Speaker 3: Had a great time with it.

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Speaker 4: He was, I gotta tell you, he was kind of like,

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Speaker 4: you know, down the stretch, it was a bit underwhelming.

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Speaker 4: You know, everybody was just kind of choking or are

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Speaker 4: really doing what he was doing, you know, pooping in

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Speaker 4: their pants and that's what he does eight times a day.

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Speaker 4: But then when JJ Spahd made that putt the drive

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Speaker 4: on seventeen and then the plot, he was just like that,

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Speaker 4: that's just such a classy finish, and I agreed those

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Speaker 4: US Open, We watched Hulkgan and the Rock from WrestleMania eighteen,

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Speaker 4: which is an important way to start one's wrestling fandom.

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Speaker 4: And then this morning I got up with him and

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Speaker 4: got him started on his new favorite TV series, which

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Speaker 4: was one of my favorites as a young man, The

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Speaker 4: Gummy Bears on Disney. Puss was bouncing here and there

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Speaker 3: It's been. It's really been.

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Speaker 2: That's awesome.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, he's great, and you know you were.

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Speaker 4: I was always a little nervous, and so far it's been,

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Speaker 4: like I said, amazing and all that.

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Speaker 3: But like it's so cool.

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Speaker 4: And we've had Arden and Bryce here the whole time,

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Speaker 4: and so they've gotten to really bond with him, and

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Speaker 4: it's just been so ushal and it's taking me kind

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Speaker 4: of down like memory lane with what Arden and Bryce

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Speaker 2: It's awesome. Uh, I'm gonna We're gonna let you get

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Speaker 2: back to your family and all right and and be

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Speaker 2: with your family and and you got you got Now

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Speaker 2: you can't you have to a week? Yeah?

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Speaker 3: I was like sure, I was compete. I was like,

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Speaker 3: if Bo can't be there, I'll help you out. On

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Speaker 3: the first segment. You did it.

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Speaker 2: He volunteered.

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Speaker 3: I did.

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Speaker 4: He's not even acknowledged to look at him.

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Speaker 5: He un believable job, Thank you, unbelievable job.

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Speaker 3: All Right. I love you guys, I miss you.

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Speaker 2: I miss you too. We'll see you soon, buddy, Okay,

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Speaker 2: I'll see you buddy. That is fantastic.

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Speaker 3: Am I still here?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you're still here? So we did.

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Speaker 3: Real fast.

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Speaker 4: We got dis tracks coming out is one of the

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Speaker 4: highlights of the summer for me.

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Speaker 3: I disjoy. I'm really enjoyed.

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Speaker 4: Where where we're at as Cleveland Browns fans, we are

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Speaker 4: ready for this season.

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Speaker 2: It's we're ready to go, baby. Yeah. Distracts win, distracts win.

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Speaker 2: The ability to zipper merge does not win.

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Speaker 4: No, that doesn't win loss. Well you know how I

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Speaker 4: feel about. That's all that you era aggrievances together.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, hill of you guys. Yeah, right, there you go.

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Speaker 2: It's the great, the great z joining there on the

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Speaker 2: hot line, the twisted tea hard iced tea hotline. There

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Speaker 2: you go, get that in for the kids. So I

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Speaker 2: see it pop up on the I put the name.

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Speaker 2: Obviously I know the route, but the reason that I

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Speaker 2: put the nab in is it's intuitive. So it'll say

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Speaker 5: There is a backup of some kind.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. So like it's green lights, it's a green line

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Speaker 2: everywhere when it's smooth sailing, and then if it's not,

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Speaker 2: like the stop line makes a lot of sense. So

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Speaker 2: all of a sudden it popped red. And I went, oh, man,

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Speaker 2: so what was supposed to be getting here by twelve

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Speaker 2: forty eight became one oh five, And I'm like, okay,

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Speaker 2: so this is clear. This is when I texted you

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Speaker 2: could be running a little bit late. So I'm thinking

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Speaker 2: to myself, okay. Accident and then initial and obviously I think,

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Speaker 2: oh my god, I hope it's not bad. Hope, but

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Speaker 2: I don't hope. No one's hurt, like none of those

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Speaker 2: type of things. So they are doing some construction in

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Speaker 2: go from two lanes to one, I'm sorry, three lanes

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Speaker 2: That's a it's a it's a they did it. It's

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Speaker 2: not their problem. They did a very good job. Giving

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Speaker 5: They're gonna need to get over to the left.

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Speaker 2: Yes, now, I ought this would be my one piece

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Speaker 2: there should be a giant billboard, like a billboard the

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Speaker 2: illustrates a zipper merge and how it is supposed to work,

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Speaker 2: because we can't figure it out. So this happens a

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Speaker 2: There are gatekeepers in the left lane that won't let

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Speaker 2: it over to himself. Like I guess what apparently what

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Speaker 2: they want you. I'm guessing the majority of people want

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Speaker 5: No, it creates a bigger it's it.

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Speaker 2: Even bigger problem. And it is in fact proven, as

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Speaker 2: we've discussed many times on this program, that a true

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Speaker 2: zipper merge is the play true you go, I go,

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Speaker 2: you go, I go, you go, I go, you go,

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Speaker 2: I go, and we just everybody keeps moving, and we

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Speaker 2: didn't have it. So I get all the way to

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Speaker 2: the point, this long stretch of like bright red like

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Speaker 2: do not pass, We're backed up, you're gonna be late. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: there's not an accident, there's nothing. This is just an

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Speaker 2: inability to merge, that's all it is. So then I

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Speaker 2: find myself for a split second it didn't last long, like, well, god,

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Speaker 2: there should have been an accident. Then you go, well, god,

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Speaker 2: you don't want accidents. I mean, nobody wants that. But

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Speaker 2: at the same time, like something to justify this. This

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Speaker 2: is simply merging, that's all it is. And it set

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Speaker 2: me back fifteen minutes. Just put merging construction like it's

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Speaker 2: a construction zone. It's a construction zone, and just show

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Speaker 2: people a giant billboard. You go left right, left right,

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Speaker 2: left right, left right left right go?

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Speaker 5: Can you can you create a construction sign that's basically

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Speaker 5: like a zipper. That's that's hard, you know because like

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Speaker 5: they normally just have the merge.

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Speaker 2: Yeah they do.

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Speaker 5: They don't explain the merger.

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Speaker 2: They don't explain it. It's got to go. You go,

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Speaker 2: I go, you go, I go.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, So does that have to happen? Because if you

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Speaker 5: think that we're dumb as a society for this, you

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Speaker 5: should drive in Rome or it's way worse. They make

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Speaker 2: What what do they struggle with? Or do they just

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Speaker 2: know what they're doing and you didn't.

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Speaker 5: Of summer blitz. It's our volunteer of volunteering here. Some

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Speaker 2: To the left. It seems like about where Z's parking

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Speaker 5: I was running around doing some stuff, cleaning up still

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Speaker 2: It's actually fine in comparison to everything else that's happened.

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Speaker 5: Because that's a trade.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but he's not. It's not him going anywhere, is

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Speaker 5: And there's nothing else on except for the Stanley Cup finals,

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Speaker 5: I mean that's a ten ten PM. I'm out.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm not doing that.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm good right now.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. O Tany threw one hundred miles an hour last night.

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Speaker 2: next in terms of now that they're on the precipice

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Speaker 2: Hot Topics of the Day, presented by University Hospital, official

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Speaker 2: He was at Game five of the NBA Finals last night.

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Speaker 2: He is a great friend of the program and a

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Speaker 2: great friend indeed. ESPN's Jake Trotter, senior college football writer

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Speaker 2: formerly of the Browns Beat, joins on the Twisted Tea Hotline.

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Speaker 2: Was this the first one of these you've seen? Because

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Speaker 2: I know you were down there for the Women's College

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Speaker 2: World Series two.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, that was my first game of this finals. I'm

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Speaker 7: actually back in Cleveland already, bo I left it. My

446
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Speaker 7: flight was at five am, landed at eleven. I think

447
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Speaker 7: I got home, you know, I don't think I went

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Speaker 7: to bed until we may or may not have had

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Speaker 7: a victory cigar back at the house. So I went

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Speaker 7: to bed at like one forty five to two, and

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Speaker 7: I had to set my alarm for three to get

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Speaker 7: to the airport. I think I slept forty five minutes

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Speaker 7: last night. Tops.

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Speaker 2: I'm just curious, where does that is that Chicago connect?

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Speaker 2: What is that Dallas?

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Speaker 7: Do you have to law?

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Speaker 1: Oh?

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Speaker 2: Dallas, Dallas and then up? Okay, okay, yeah.

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Speaker 7: It depends on the airline. Like if you take Southwest,

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Speaker 7: it's it's Saint Louis. If you take you know, American,

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Speaker 7: it's it's Dallas.

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Speaker 3: I was.

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Speaker 7: I was on the American flight. But man, that was

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Speaker 7: an early wake up call today, but it was it

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Speaker 7: was worth it. So I've been to two Finals games

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Speaker 7: in my life. I went to Game one in twenty

467
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Speaker 7: twelve against the Miami Heat. Lebron James Chris Bosh, Dwayne Wade,

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Speaker 7: the Thunder won that game with Kevin Duranton Company to

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Speaker 7: go up one oer in the series, and they did

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Speaker 7: not win another finals game that year. It got beat

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Speaker 7: Gentlemen sweep for to one. And yeah, I was back

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Speaker 7: back in the arena last night Thunder two and oh

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Speaker 7: lifetime in the finals when I'm in the house, well,

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Speaker 7: and I.

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Speaker 2: Guess if there is a game seven, you'll be back.

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Speaker 2: It feels like that's the way that no, what is

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Speaker 2: the give me, give it paint a little picture for

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Speaker 2: us of because this feels like a fad of complete

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Speaker 2: at this point. I mean, Haliburton's hurt, like it's they're

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Speaker 2: the best team all year anyway. And then the other

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Speaker 2: thing that's kind of crazy about this, Jake is like

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Speaker 2: the way they're built and with the picks. Now, I

483
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Speaker 2: don't think anyone's gonna go there in free agency. I

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Speaker 2: think it's I know Paul George did, but I don't

485
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Speaker 2: think that's gonna happen much anymore. We dealt with that

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Speaker 2: here in Cleveland, like it's just probably not gonna be

487
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Speaker 2: a free agent destination. But they can circumvent that with

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Speaker 2: all of those picks. So it does kind of from

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Speaker 2: my vantage point feel like that they're gonna win it,

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Speaker 2: whether it's in game six or seven, one of the

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Speaker 2: way they're gonna win it. I don't there's no way

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Speaker 2: Indiana's went.

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Speaker 7: To in a row.

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Speaker 2: And then beyond that, this feels like the first of many,

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Speaker 2: like they're gonna have it bats at this for like

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Speaker 2: the next half decade.

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Speaker 7: It looks like, well listen, let I mean, I I

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Speaker 7: am not riding off Indiana just yet. They have a

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Speaker 7: voodoo about them where they're a zombie team. You think

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Speaker 7: they're done. I mean last night, like you know, I

501
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Speaker 7: was in the arena, so I wasn't as aware of

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Speaker 7: like what was going on with Halliburt. Like I knew

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Speaker 7: he was hurt, but I didn't like see on TV

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Speaker 7: that he was limping out of the locker room. You know,

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Speaker 7: it was clear that he wasn't the same. And yet

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Speaker 7: it's a two point game. Because this guy named TJ McConnell.

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Speaker 7: You know, I was talking about the NBA thirteen years ago.

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Speaker 7: It was like a JJ Berea. I don't know if

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Speaker 7: you remember him. I do five foot six point guard

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Speaker 7: from the Mavericks who absolutely killed the Thunder in the

511
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Speaker 7: Western Conference Finals in twenty eleven was a big part

512
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Speaker 7: of their championship that year with the dirt team. TJ

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Speaker 7: McConnell comes in and can't miss, and all of a sudden,

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Speaker 7: it's a two point game. And I'm like, you could

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Speaker 7: feel the anks rise up in the arena because you know,

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Speaker 7: Game one, the Thunder had that locked up, and and

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Speaker 7: then Halliburton hits a three at the end, and somehow

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Speaker 7: Indiana wins that game. And you know, living in Cleveland,

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Speaker 7: it's like a double whandie because I watched all those

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Speaker 7: Cavs games, were like, how in the world did India

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Speaker 7: You know that was a miss free throw? I can't

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Speaker 7: was that game? Wan ORed game two when Halliburton missed

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Speaker 7: the free throw, catches it and dribbles out to the

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Speaker 7: top of the game, thinks the three to win. I

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Speaker 7: think that was. I think that was Game one, but

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Speaker 7: I can't. I can't remember now. But I you know, listen,

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Speaker 7: if Halliburton is not one hundred percent, then it has

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Speaker 7: to be very difficult for Indiana went to win. I agree,

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Speaker 7: especially two games. But if you're the Pacers just got

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Speaker 7: to figure out a way to send it to game seven,

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Speaker 7: and I think that they are capable of doing that.

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Speaker 7: You know, this has been a pretty even series until

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Speaker 7: last night throughout. Uh but but you're a bigger quiet.

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Speaker 7: Let's assume they do win. You know, they're gonna have

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Speaker 7: Shay on the Supermax. They're gonna have Chet and Jalen

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Speaker 7: Williams on the Max. Is like that is the core

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Speaker 7: of the team. And I think, you know, the way

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Speaker 7: Jalen Williams has played this series, it's you know, it

539
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Speaker 7: is pretty scary I think for the rest of the

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Speaker 7: league because he has really emerged into like a legit

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Speaker 7: number two, probably a number one on a lot of teams,

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Speaker 7: the NBA perfect sidekick to Shay. And you know, Chet,

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Speaker 7: even though I think he struggled offensively, is still just

544
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Speaker 7: an absolute menace, blocking shots, protecting them them and they have,

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Speaker 7: you know, a bunch of guys under contract. I think

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Speaker 7: this will pretty much be the same team next year,

547
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Speaker 7: with the exception of the lottery pick they had last

548
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Speaker 7: year basically red shirted Nicolo Topic, who was gonna be

549
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Speaker 7: a top five pick last summer, tore his knee up

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Speaker 7: and was there at twelve for the Thunder to get

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Speaker 7: so he red shirted. You know, is maybe the top

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Speaker 7: top guard out of Europe since since Luca. I'm not

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Speaker 7: saying he's Luca, but you know he was a pretty

554
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Speaker 7: prolific European point guard. So we'll see if he gets

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Speaker 7: in the rotation. And yeah, they just have picks upon

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Speaker 7: picks to you know, to replenish the roster if guys

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Speaker 7: get too expensive, or you know, to adjust if they

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Speaker 7: feel like they need to. So it is it's crazy

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Speaker 7: that not only do they have this team, you know,

560
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Speaker 7: one of the youngest to ever win potentially an NBA title,

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Speaker 7: but they have more assets than anybody in the NBA

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Speaker 7: or at least as many as anyone in the NBA

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Speaker 7: going for it. I don't know that we've ever seen

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Speaker 7: a situation like this and maybe all of professional sports.

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Speaker 7: So it's a it's an exciting time to be a

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Speaker 7: fan of the team, and you know they have a

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Speaker 7: chance to really do something pretty special in the coming years,

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Speaker 7: not just this season, but beyond Trotter.

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Speaker 5: It's Gibbs welcome back question for you. What how does

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Speaker 5: that city? How is that city when it comes to

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Speaker 5: being a basketball town, like, is it win lose no

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Speaker 5: matter what supporting or is it a is it a

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Speaker 5: fair weather town or you know, how does this how

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Speaker 5: does that city embrace that team that obviously used to

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Speaker 5: be the Seattle Sonics way back way.

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Speaker 7: Yeah yeah, I mean I you know, Thunder have lived

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Speaker 7: a charmed life in their brief existence. I mean they

578
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Speaker 7: a little bit. You know, they moved in two thousand

579
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Speaker 7: and eight. They were in the finals four years later.

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Speaker 7: They have basically been competitive, like playoff competitive pretty much

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Speaker 7: like eighty percent of the time. You know, you see

582
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Speaker 7: some NBA teams they haven't made the playoffs, and you know,

583
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Speaker 7: Sacramento makes it one year and then you know, now

584
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Speaker 7: they're in disarray again. You know, Charlotte, you know, they

585
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Speaker 7: can't do anything no matter what they do, so they

586
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Speaker 7: they you know, it's been a charmed existence. They've had

587
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Speaker 7: four MVPs play there. They've had players like Chris Paul,

588
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Speaker 7: you know, come through there, and you know, after the

589
00:29:03,440 --> 00:29:07,280
Speaker 7: Paul George Russ Ron ran its course. You know, they

590
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Speaker 7: were basically you know, they had the one year with

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Speaker 7: Chris Paul where they made the playoffs, Shay's first season

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Speaker 7: with the Thunder. After the Paul George trade, they were

593
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Speaker 7: bad for two years and then they were back in

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Speaker 7: the playing playing game. So it's it's been pretty incredible

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Speaker 7: that they have you know, been as consistently good as

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Speaker 7: they have been basically, you know, since they moved there

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Speaker 7: seventeen years ago. And you know you combine that with

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Speaker 7: you know, the success that the college programs, particularly oh

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Speaker 7: you football, have had. I mean, let's just say it's

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Speaker 7: not a jaded fan base. You know, they have not

601
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Speaker 7: had to deal with the adversity that you know, Brown's

602
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Speaker 7: fans have had to deal with. Put it that way,

603
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Speaker 7: it's kind of the inverse of you know, Brown's leave

604
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Speaker 7: and then it's been really tough since and you know,

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Speaker 7: with the Thunder, they get this team and they've just

606
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Speaker 7: been pretty much awesome most years with a bunch of

607
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Speaker 7: absolute superstar players coming through. So yeah, I mean, like

608
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Speaker 7: you you walk through town, it's it's, uh, you know,

609
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Speaker 7: you can imagine kind of what it's like. You know,

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Speaker 7: when the Browns were in the playoffs. You know, it

611
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Speaker 7: was kind of weird when they were in it during

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Speaker 7: the COVID year, but you know, the Flacco fever uh season,

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Speaker 7: I mean, it's it's thunder flags everywhere, Like all the buildings,

614
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Speaker 7: you know, are lit up with Thunder logos. I Mean,

615
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Speaker 7: everybody's wearing Thunder stuff around town. You know, everybody's all

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Speaker 7: in and uh, it's it's a lot of fun to

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Speaker 7: be in Oklahoma City right now.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, they're the Ravens. Yeah, Thunder unfair, that's what it is.

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Speaker 7: Not an unfair comp And we have Lamar right now

620
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Speaker 7: right yeah.

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Speaker 2: And before that you had ray Lewis like you you know,

622
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Speaker 2: like yeah, I mean it's that's really what they that

623
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Speaker 2: it is. I mean that's from a move standpoint, it's

624
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Speaker 2: it's about as painful as it gets from the other side.

625
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Speaker 2: It much like it was for us here from the

626
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Speaker 2: Seattle side of it. It's that way, just like it

627
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Speaker 2: would be I'm sure Minnesota when they took the North

628
00:31:05,960 --> 00:31:08,360
Speaker 2: starts to Dallas and then they won the Cup and

629
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Speaker 2: it's like, wait, what where the yeah, where where this

630
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Speaker 2: is supposed to happen? Not in Dallas. So I think

631
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Speaker 2: that's the part that's but look, that's of no fault

632
00:31:15,760 --> 00:31:18,080
Speaker 2: of anybody down there, and they've been What I'm curious

633
00:31:18,120 --> 00:31:23,360
Speaker 2: about is like Sooner football, the Sooners win the national title,

634
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Speaker 2: or Oklahoma City wins the National champion or the NBA title,

635
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Speaker 2: which one is more important?

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Speaker 7: I think the Thunder winning an NBA title would be

637
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Speaker 7: more important because the Sooners have done it. Yeah, you know,

638
00:31:37,480 --> 00:31:41,440
Speaker 7: they have seven national championships. And not everybody in Oklahoma

639
00:31:41,720 --> 00:31:45,920
Speaker 7: is a Sooner fan. Now everybody in Oklahoma's a thunder fan. Basically,

640
00:31:47,600 --> 00:31:50,960
Speaker 7: you know that there's still thirty thirty five percent Oklahoma

641
00:31:51,000 --> 00:31:54,160
Speaker 7: state fans, so you know, it's a little bit of

642
00:31:54,160 --> 00:31:59,000
Speaker 7: a divat bedlam divide there, but that you know, everybody's

643
00:31:59,040 --> 00:32:02,480
Speaker 7: a Thunder fan and the fact that it's never happened

644
00:32:02,680 --> 00:32:07,560
Speaker 7: and it's professional sports, all right, this would be I mean,

645
00:32:07,600 --> 00:32:09,719
Speaker 7: you could make the cases would be the biggest sports

646
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Speaker 7: moment in the history of the state. I don't think

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Speaker 7: that that's hyperb believe.

648
00:32:14,240 --> 00:32:16,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I mean when you think of it from

649
00:32:16,280 --> 00:32:17,840
Speaker 2: that person, it's a little bit like Columbus with the

650
00:32:17,880 --> 00:32:21,360
Speaker 2: Blue Jackets. How you know, like not everybody in Columbus

651
00:32:21,360 --> 00:32:23,320
Speaker 2: loves the Buckeyes. There are people who move in from

652
00:32:23,360 --> 00:32:25,320
Speaker 2: other places who don't. And this is something that is

653
00:32:25,640 --> 00:32:28,720
Speaker 2: unequivocally theirs. You and I talked a couple of weeks

654
00:32:28,720 --> 00:32:31,080
Speaker 2: ago about how how this all came, about, how they

655
00:32:31,320 --> 00:32:33,680
Speaker 2: how the thunder happened, and Clay Bennett and all of

656
00:32:33,720 --> 00:32:35,760
Speaker 2: that stuff and what they were trying to do by

657
00:32:35,760 --> 00:32:38,880
Speaker 2: building an arena before a team came. When you think

658
00:32:38,920 --> 00:32:41,400
Speaker 2: about all of the years that have passed since all

659
00:32:41,440 --> 00:32:45,320
Speaker 2: of this happened, and you think about the mission that

660
00:32:45,560 --> 00:32:48,360
Speaker 2: was set out all those years ago after the tragic bombing,

661
00:32:49,520 --> 00:32:51,719
Speaker 2: it's it's all worked. Where they were right about all

662
00:32:51,720 --> 00:32:52,400
Speaker 2: of it, weren't they?

663
00:32:53,880 --> 00:32:56,840
Speaker 7: You know, one way that I noticed it. You know,

664
00:32:56,880 --> 00:32:59,560
Speaker 7: I grew up in Oklahoma City obviously, and I just

665
00:32:59,680 --> 00:33:03,960
Speaker 7: remember what a this was before the bombing. You know,

666
00:33:04,120 --> 00:33:08,240
Speaker 7: just what a you know, desolate wasteland downtown was, and

667
00:33:08,280 --> 00:33:10,480
Speaker 7: like if you wanted to go out and eat in

668
00:33:10,560 --> 00:33:13,640
Speaker 7: Oklahoma City in the eighties, you're basically going to like

669
00:33:14,400 --> 00:33:19,960
Speaker 7: red Lobster or like there was like no restaurants at all.

670
00:33:20,440 --> 00:33:22,840
Speaker 7: There's like a couple. If you went to downtown, there

671
00:33:22,840 --> 00:33:24,880
Speaker 7: were basically two things to do. There was a conted

672
00:33:24,920 --> 00:33:28,320
Speaker 7: house it was in like an old warehouse in the

673
00:33:28,320 --> 00:33:32,680
Speaker 7: Bricktown district. And then there was the spaghetti warehouse. That

674
00:33:32,800 --> 00:33:34,960
Speaker 7: was it. It was the only two things to do that

675
00:33:35,040 --> 00:33:38,480
Speaker 7: I can remember. Yeah, and now, like you go down,

676
00:33:38,600 --> 00:33:42,240
Speaker 7: I mean I don't if you asked me, Hey, I'm

677
00:33:42,240 --> 00:33:43,920
Speaker 7: in Okama City, where do I go like, I don't

678
00:33:43,920 --> 00:33:46,760
Speaker 7: even know what to tell you, because there are like

679
00:33:47,320 --> 00:33:50,480
Speaker 7: a thousand new restaurants I never heard of. The whole

680
00:33:50,560 --> 00:33:55,400
Speaker 7: downtown area is like there's the Scissor Tell Park next

681
00:33:55,400 --> 00:33:59,080
Speaker 7: to the arena, which is incredible. You know there we

682
00:33:59,120 --> 00:34:03,440
Speaker 7: went to a rooftop up you know bar before the game,

683
00:34:03,560 --> 00:34:05,480
Speaker 7: just across the street from the arena that wasn't there

684
00:34:05,520 --> 00:34:07,800
Speaker 7: when I lived there. I mean, there is just so

685
00:34:08,040 --> 00:34:13,920
Speaker 7: much new in the city. Uh, you know, really is vibrant.

686
00:34:13,960 --> 00:34:16,279
Speaker 7: And it all kind of goes back to getting the

687
00:34:16,360 --> 00:34:19,240
Speaker 7: NBA team, like none of us. I think it's possible

688
00:34:20,600 --> 00:34:23,480
Speaker 7: without the thunder, you know, drawing everybody downtown. I mean,

689
00:34:23,480 --> 00:34:27,040
Speaker 7: downtown is like it's hard for me to explain how

690
00:34:27,080 --> 00:34:32,000
Speaker 7: different Downtown is now then than it was when I

691
00:34:32,080 --> 00:34:35,520
Speaker 7: was growing up. I mean it was, you know, it

692
00:34:35,560 --> 00:34:40,360
Speaker 7: was crazy. I mean imagine, you know, imagine the the

693
00:34:40,360 --> 00:34:43,400
Speaker 7: the area around the lakefront, around the Brown Stadium, and

694
00:34:43,440 --> 00:34:46,240
Speaker 7: then take away the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame,

695
00:34:46,840 --> 00:34:50,319
Speaker 7: the Science Center, and the actual stadium. That's kind of

696
00:34:50,320 --> 00:34:53,600
Speaker 7: like what Downtown was, you know, like I you wouldn't

697
00:34:53,600 --> 00:34:55,239
Speaker 7: I wouldn't even know where to tell you to go.

698
00:34:56,520 --> 00:35:01,320
Speaker 7: And now it's just uh it was. It was incredible

699
00:35:01,320 --> 00:35:05,000
Speaker 7: to be back down there, you know last night, and

700
00:35:05,200 --> 00:35:10,000
Speaker 7: uh yeah, I mean, I I uh, it's it's it's

701
00:35:10,000 --> 00:35:12,000
Speaker 7: hard to believe that they're they're on the verge of

702
00:35:12,000 --> 00:35:15,120
Speaker 7: winning a championship and now, like you said, like they

703
00:35:15,160 --> 00:35:18,719
Speaker 7: ain't going anywhere. And I think it's gonna be fascinating

704
00:35:18,760 --> 00:35:21,440
Speaker 7: to see what happens in the NBA, like really curious

705
00:35:21,440 --> 00:35:23,080
Speaker 7: to see what the Calves do, because I mean, the

706
00:35:23,120 --> 00:35:25,760
Speaker 7: Calves were the other team right there with the Thunder

707
00:35:25,840 --> 00:35:29,520
Speaker 7: that were just completely dominant during the regular season. And

708
00:35:30,320 --> 00:35:33,120
Speaker 7: you know that the Calves ran into this Pacers team

709
00:35:33,160 --> 00:35:36,680
Speaker 7: that was just red hot, and it has not been

710
00:35:36,719 --> 00:35:39,000
Speaker 7: easy for Oklahoma City to deal with Indiana, Like this

711
00:35:39,040 --> 00:35:42,520
Speaker 7: has been a real series. And you go back to

712
00:35:42,560 --> 00:35:46,239
Speaker 7: Game four when it went Friday night, when it looked

713
00:35:46,280 --> 00:35:48,279
Speaker 7: like Indiana was gonna win, to go up three to one,

714
00:35:49,480 --> 00:35:53,160
Speaker 7: and I think the difference between the two series was is, uh,

715
00:35:53,200 --> 00:35:56,279
Speaker 7: you know, Shay was able to just take over the

716
00:35:56,320 --> 00:35:59,920
Speaker 7: game late and wild the Thunder to this incredible comeback,

717
00:36:00,120 --> 00:36:02,600
Speaker 7: and no one on the Calves was able to do

718
00:36:02,640 --> 00:36:05,840
Speaker 7: that in any particular game and they got you know,

719
00:36:05,880 --> 00:36:08,640
Speaker 7: they got blown out in that game. Four. Remember that

720
00:36:08,680 --> 00:36:12,640
Speaker 7: Game four where you know that they had won in

721
00:36:12,640 --> 00:36:15,680
Speaker 7: Indiana in Game three and it looked like, okay, you know,

722
00:36:15,719 --> 00:36:17,960
Speaker 7: they're they're about to reclaim the series, and they just

723
00:36:18,080 --> 00:36:21,959
Speaker 7: know showed and the Thunder, you know, they didn't no show,

724
00:36:22,000 --> 00:36:24,640
Speaker 7: but they were out played. They were kind of never

725
00:36:24,680 --> 00:36:27,680
Speaker 7: in control, but they were able to hang around. And

726
00:36:29,000 --> 00:36:30,560
Speaker 7: because they were able to hang around, they gave their

727
00:36:30,600 --> 00:36:33,240
Speaker 7: superstar chance to win the game. That's exactly what happened.

728
00:36:33,239 --> 00:36:35,640
Speaker 7: And that's kind of the difference between the two series.

729
00:36:35,680 --> 00:36:37,640
Speaker 7: And so if you're the Calves, you gotta figure out okay,

730
00:36:38,239 --> 00:36:41,560
Speaker 7: because the East is still wide open. That's why Orlando

731
00:36:41,600 --> 00:36:45,480
Speaker 7: made the trade for Desmond Bane. But at least in

732
00:36:45,520 --> 00:36:48,200
Speaker 7: the East there is no Oklahoma City. But in the West,

733
00:36:48,760 --> 00:36:51,239
Speaker 7: which by the way, is loaded otherwise with guys like

734
00:36:51,320 --> 00:36:54,480
Speaker 7: you know, wimpin Yama and you know Luca the Lakers,

735
00:36:54,480 --> 00:36:57,839
Speaker 7: I mean, there's Denver is not going anywhere. But yeah,

736
00:36:57,880 --> 00:36:59,319
Speaker 7: I mean, I think the standard is going to be

737
00:36:59,320 --> 00:37:03,600
Speaker 7: the Thunder going forward because their big three are going

738
00:37:03,680 --> 00:37:05,719
Speaker 7: to be there for a long time, and they're all young,

739
00:37:05,760 --> 00:37:08,319
Speaker 7: and they're all getting better, and they have a tremendous

740
00:37:08,360 --> 00:37:12,000
Speaker 7: bench and role players and lou Dort is just unreal

741
00:37:12,600 --> 00:37:17,040
Speaker 7: guarding the team's best opposing team's best player. So it's

742
00:37:17,160 --> 00:37:19,319
Speaker 7: I mean, the NBA is gonna be really fun, I

743
00:37:19,320 --> 00:37:23,480
Speaker 7: think for Cleveland and certainly Oklahoma City in the coming future.

744
00:37:24,120 --> 00:37:26,120
Speaker 2: You know, Lona has been made night. We were kind

745
00:37:26,120 --> 00:37:28,759
Speaker 2: of talking about this about ratings for all of this,

746
00:37:28,840 --> 00:37:31,040
Speaker 2: and this doesn't affect the fans of Oklahoma City or

747
00:37:31,040 --> 00:37:34,080
Speaker 2: Indianapolis or anything else. But they've been a little bit down,

748
00:37:34,080 --> 00:37:35,400
Speaker 2: but they've been down before. They were down in O

749
00:37:35,480 --> 00:37:37,399
Speaker 2: seven when it was Calves and Spurs. They were down

750
00:37:37,400 --> 00:37:39,319
Speaker 2: in O three when it was Spurs and Nets too.

751
00:37:39,760 --> 00:37:41,920
Speaker 2: And one thing that I'm thinking about listening to you

752
00:37:41,960 --> 00:37:44,399
Speaker 2: talking as a native Oklahoma City, and you think about

753
00:37:44,400 --> 00:37:47,440
Speaker 2: it from this perspective. If you're our age, if you're

754
00:37:47,440 --> 00:37:49,640
Speaker 2: a man in your forty or even your thirties, whatever, like,

755
00:37:49,680 --> 00:37:51,640
Speaker 2: you probably have some memories of the Sonics and you

756
00:37:51,680 --> 00:37:54,200
Speaker 2: probably remember thinking to yourself why it was Oklahoma City

757
00:37:54,200 --> 00:37:56,839
Speaker 2: getting a team, Like it's so crazy the team would

758
00:37:56,840 --> 00:37:59,239
Speaker 2: move from Seattle to Oklahoma City. But here's the thing,

759
00:38:00,120 --> 00:38:03,080
Speaker 2: my kids, you know what they associate Oklahoma City with

760
00:38:03,640 --> 00:38:07,279
Speaker 2: winning in basketball. That's what they do. What we have

761
00:38:07,320 --> 00:38:09,960
Speaker 2: a shaeguilace Alexander Jersey. My thirteen year olds got to

762
00:38:09,960 --> 00:38:12,879
Speaker 2: sea shakeguilla Alexander Jersey because he loves Kentucky and has

763
00:38:12,920 --> 00:38:15,640
Speaker 2: it like, that's what they is. That's what they is.

764
00:38:15,800 --> 00:38:18,520
Speaker 2: That's what the power of sport is, Jake. And we've

765
00:38:18,560 --> 00:38:20,760
Speaker 2: seen this, you know, boots on the ground in India

766
00:38:20,760 --> 00:38:22,680
Speaker 2: with the Colts in that stadium, and in Columbus you're

767
00:38:22,680 --> 00:38:25,080
Speaker 2: down there like what that Blue Jackets when you put

768
00:38:25,120 --> 00:38:28,640
Speaker 2: stadium's cruse Stadium, what that does? That's that's what sports do.

769
00:38:28,719 --> 00:38:30,880
Speaker 2: Is it up? That's what it does. It uplifts a

770
00:38:30,920 --> 00:38:34,160
Speaker 2: whole city and changes the perspective of it for another generation.

771
00:38:35,160 --> 00:38:39,440
Speaker 7: I'm telling you, I you know, I traveled overseas. Uh uh.

772
00:38:39,480 --> 00:38:42,759
Speaker 7: You know after after ninety five, and you know, you're

773
00:38:42,800 --> 00:38:45,880
Speaker 7: you're you know, you're different places in the country. I

774
00:38:45,880 --> 00:38:52,440
Speaker 7: went to school to college in Virginia, and after ninety five,

775
00:38:52,920 --> 00:38:56,520
Speaker 7: if you were from Oklahoma City, people found out like they, oh,

776
00:38:56,560 --> 00:38:57,560
Speaker 7: were you there for the bombing?

777
00:38:58,080 --> 00:38:58,319
Speaker 2: Yep?

778
00:38:58,400 --> 00:39:02,560
Speaker 7: Like internationally, Uh, when you thought of Oklahoma City, you

779
00:39:02,560 --> 00:39:04,560
Speaker 7: thought of the bombing. That's like what the identity of

780
00:39:04,600 --> 00:39:08,040
Speaker 7: the city was. Now it's the thunder and and that's

781
00:39:08,080 --> 00:39:10,400
Speaker 7: like you said, I when you were saying that about

782
00:39:11,440 --> 00:39:14,200
Speaker 7: you know, your kids and Shay and Thunder like that,

783
00:39:14,200 --> 00:39:17,200
Speaker 7: that is what the city of Oklahoma City is I

784
00:39:17,200 --> 00:39:20,480
Speaker 7: identified as. And and that's that's pretty cool that that

785
00:39:20,520 --> 00:39:23,040
Speaker 7: they were able and we were able to, you know,

786
00:39:23,160 --> 00:39:27,040
Speaker 7: change the perception of you know, what it meant to

787
00:39:27,040 --> 00:39:29,919
Speaker 7: be from Oklahma City. Uh. And you know the first

788
00:39:29,920 --> 00:39:32,560
Speaker 7: thing you thought of, because you know, I was at

789
00:39:32,560 --> 00:39:34,600
Speaker 7: oklaham City when the bombing happened. I wasn't that far

790
00:39:34,640 --> 00:39:37,560
Speaker 7: from downtown. It was a crazy event to be in

791
00:39:37,600 --> 00:39:41,720
Speaker 7: the middle of, especially as a kid. And uh And

792
00:39:41,719 --> 00:39:44,399
Speaker 7: and you know, I think a lot of what where

793
00:39:44,400 --> 00:39:46,440
Speaker 7: Oklahoma City is now is tied to that and how

794
00:39:46,440 --> 00:39:49,000
Speaker 7: the city responded to it. But you know, it is

795
00:39:49,040 --> 00:39:51,880
Speaker 7: also cool to like I was wearing my thundershirt at

796
00:39:51,880 --> 00:39:54,480
Speaker 7: the airport in Cleveland and I had like multiple people

797
00:39:54,640 --> 00:39:56,560
Speaker 7: like say something to me about the game.

798
00:39:57,800 --> 00:40:00,719
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, And man, it's great having you on to

799
00:40:01,040 --> 00:40:03,640
Speaker 2: reflect on it and enjoy the ride. I have a

800
00:40:03,640 --> 00:40:05,560
Speaker 2: feeling it's just beginning for your boys.

801
00:40:05,600 --> 00:40:09,200
Speaker 5: Get some sleep, Get some sleep, Threads. They're not going

802
00:40:09,239 --> 00:40:10,600
Speaker 5: away for you.

803
00:40:10,640 --> 00:40:13,360
Speaker 7: They're not letting me sleep. But you know hopefully, you know,

804
00:40:13,400 --> 00:40:15,920
Speaker 7: hopefully Brown stands well, you know, we'll get to a

805
00:40:15,960 --> 00:40:18,719
Speaker 7: point where they can feel what I'm feeling now, because

806
00:40:18,840 --> 00:40:19,560
Speaker 7: it's pretty cool.

807
00:40:20,120 --> 00:40:21,960
Speaker 2: It really is good talking to you, buddy. As always,

808
00:40:22,040 --> 00:40:23,200
Speaker 2: I have a feeling we'll do it again.

809
00:40:23,000 --> 00:40:26,319
Speaker 7: The marrow, all right, Yeah, I'll talk to you in Columbus, SA, buddy.

810
00:40:27,120 --> 00:40:31,200
Speaker 2: Jake Shotter joining us on the Twisted Tea Hotline. Yeah,

811
00:40:31,239 --> 00:40:33,520
Speaker 2: I mean, that's that is the thing is, sometimes it

812
00:40:33,520 --> 00:40:36,880
Speaker 2: takes a generation for there to be a different perception

813
00:40:36,960 --> 00:40:39,520
Speaker 2: of things, like as we get older, there there's a

814
00:40:39,640 --> 00:40:43,319
Speaker 2: history that we have with cities and franchises and all

815
00:40:43,360 --> 00:40:46,359
Speaker 2: of that. And like my kids, that's all they watch

816
00:40:46,400 --> 00:40:48,279
Speaker 2: a lot of basketball, and that's how they view Oklahoma City.

817
00:40:48,280 --> 00:40:50,080
Speaker 2: They must be a great basketball town. All they've done

818
00:40:50,160 --> 00:40:51,880
Speaker 2: is win their whole life. It's all they know.

819
00:40:52,320 --> 00:40:55,200
Speaker 5: But you also, and we've had this conversation on the air,

820
00:40:55,239 --> 00:40:59,560
Speaker 5: We've had the conversation off the air. From an NBA standpoint,

821
00:40:59,600 --> 00:41:02,640
Speaker 5: I don't know if it's necessarily an NFL deal or not.

822
00:41:03,360 --> 00:41:07,040
Speaker 5: Maybe we can debate that, but it's more about the

823
00:41:07,120 --> 00:41:08,800
Speaker 5: name on the back than the name on the front

824
00:41:09,200 --> 00:41:12,240
Speaker 5: that people are fans of especially the younger.

825
00:41:12,120 --> 00:41:15,759
Speaker 2: That started younger ut that started with David Stern. So

826
00:41:15,880 --> 00:41:20,040
Speaker 2: David Stern in the eighties pushed Magic and Bird. It

827
00:41:20,160 --> 00:41:22,240
Speaker 2: helped that it was Lakers Celtics, but it was really

828
00:41:22,320 --> 00:41:24,239
Speaker 2: Magic and Bird, and it kind of had all of

829
00:41:24,239 --> 00:41:27,839
Speaker 2: it right. You had kind of this blue collar they

830
00:41:27,880 --> 00:41:30,120
Speaker 2: I mean, like Bird from the they both came from

831
00:41:30,120 --> 00:41:33,319
Speaker 2: blue collar background, sure, but the racial part of it

832
00:41:33,400 --> 00:41:35,480
Speaker 2: was certainly a part of those two cities. The flash

833
00:41:35,480 --> 00:41:37,640
Speaker 2: and all the stuff that came in Los Angeles, more

834
00:41:37,640 --> 00:41:39,960
Speaker 2: of a blue collar attitude in Boston, even though it's

835
00:41:39,960 --> 00:41:41,840
Speaker 2: one of the most it's probably the most educated city

836
00:41:42,120 --> 00:41:45,320
Speaker 2: maybe in the world. It's certainly in America. And you

837
00:41:45,840 --> 00:41:48,120
Speaker 2: had this thing that they pushed, this narrative. And then

838
00:41:48,400 --> 00:41:50,840
Speaker 2: when those two were done and they saved the NBA,

839
00:41:51,360 --> 00:41:53,960
Speaker 2: they saved it. And then Jordan came along, and then

840
00:41:54,000 --> 00:41:56,320
Speaker 2: after that there was who's got next, Well, it's Kobe

841
00:41:56,360 --> 00:41:58,880
Speaker 2: and Shaq and those guys came along, and then some

842
00:41:59,000 --> 00:42:01,239
Speaker 2: kid from Akron came Alat They've always had the guy

843
00:42:01,280 --> 00:42:04,840
Speaker 2: who's next ready to go, but they have pushed those stars.

844
00:42:04,920 --> 00:42:06,840
Speaker 2: Steph coming along at the right time as a foil

845
00:42:06,920 --> 00:42:09,600
Speaker 2: for Lebron after Kobe petered out, like all of those

846
00:42:09,600 --> 00:42:12,759
Speaker 2: things were happening, and I don't know what's next for

847
00:42:12,840 --> 00:42:18,440
Speaker 2: that league because their best players are foreign players and

848
00:42:18,480 --> 00:42:22,600
Speaker 2: they just are. And so you're and I mean, Shake

849
00:42:22,560 --> 00:42:25,600
Speaker 2: Gildes Alexander when the MVPs from Canada, like it's now

850
00:42:25,680 --> 00:42:28,879
Speaker 2: he played a Kentucky Like what's the difference? Maybe I'll

851
00:42:28,880 --> 00:42:32,080
Speaker 2: save that joke, but but the the point is is

852
00:42:32,120 --> 00:42:36,320
Speaker 2: that like they are in this spot of they've sold

853
00:42:36,400 --> 00:42:42,320
Speaker 2: stars and star power for our whole life and now

854
00:42:42,400 --> 00:42:44,320
Speaker 2: what it looks like in terms of where it's heading,

855
00:42:44,560 --> 00:42:47,200
Speaker 2: and like Shake guil just Alexander is a star, Donovan

856
00:42:47,239 --> 00:42:52,920
Speaker 2: Mitchell is a star. Do they transcend? Probably not in

857
00:42:52,920 --> 00:42:54,879
Speaker 2: the way that those other guys did. They were here

858
00:42:54,920 --> 00:43:00,839
Speaker 2: because we're in town. But is they I I don't know.

859
00:43:00,960 --> 00:43:03,680
Speaker 2: I mean, I think it's probably Yannis and it's probably

860
00:43:03,719 --> 00:43:06,040
Speaker 2: still Stephan Lebron and those guys. The one way of

861
00:43:06,080 --> 00:43:07,840
Speaker 2: always knowing is looking to see who they put on

862
00:43:07,840 --> 00:43:10,640
Speaker 2: the Christmas Day games. Sure, that's the best way of knowing.

863
00:43:10,880 --> 00:43:12,439
Speaker 2: That's who they think is the face of the league

864
00:43:12,480 --> 00:43:16,439
Speaker 2: or those games. So but yeah, that's not okay, C's fault,

865
00:43:16,480 --> 00:43:18,399
Speaker 2: that's not Indy's fault. It's just a product of where

866
00:43:18,400 --> 00:43:21,440
Speaker 2: that league is right now. And they they're television partners,

867
00:43:21,480 --> 00:43:24,160
Speaker 2: their media partners or social media partners. They really need

868
00:43:24,200 --> 00:43:26,960
Speaker 2: to prop up. They need to talk about shake Gil

869
00:43:27,080 --> 00:43:29,160
Speaker 2: just Alexander, they need to talk about Anthony Edwards. Need

870
00:43:29,160 --> 00:43:31,319
Speaker 2: to talk about and build those guys up so that

871
00:43:31,640 --> 00:43:33,239
Speaker 2: so that next year when you're in this thing, because

872
00:43:33,239 --> 00:43:35,560
Speaker 2: it's going to be Oklahoma City again next year, barring injury,

873
00:43:35,800 --> 00:43:37,840
Speaker 2: when they're there again, people are ready for them and

874
00:43:37,880 --> 00:43:38,480
Speaker 2: they're familiar.

875
00:43:38,600 --> 00:43:43,080
Speaker 5: So I'm going to take in it. It's like the WWE. Yeah,

876
00:43:42,960 --> 00:43:45,319
Speaker 5: when all the big names, when when the Rock was

877
00:43:45,360 --> 00:43:48,760
Speaker 5: done and when Sina started to go make movies. Yeah,

878
00:43:48,800 --> 00:43:50,280
Speaker 5: and you're like, who's the face?

879
00:43:50,560 --> 00:43:51,000
Speaker 2: Who is it?

880
00:43:51,239 --> 00:43:55,080
Speaker 5: Who's the face? Like there's a lot of good, there's

881
00:43:55,120 --> 00:43:57,480
Speaker 5: even some great, yeah, but is it the face?

882
00:43:57,760 --> 00:43:57,920
Speaker 8: Well?

883
00:43:57,920 --> 00:43:58,720
Speaker 2: And is it interesting?

884
00:43:59,000 --> 00:43:59,239
Speaker 8: Yeah?

885
00:44:00,080 --> 00:44:02,719
Speaker 2: Is it interesting? Because right now I don't know that

886
00:44:02,800 --> 00:44:06,200
Speaker 2: Shay Gildis Alexander is interesting. He's great. You just want

887
00:44:06,200 --> 00:44:08,880
Speaker 2: the MVP. But I don't know if if people outside

888
00:44:08,920 --> 00:44:11,319
Speaker 2: of people who watch a lot of hoop have any

889
00:44:11,320 --> 00:44:14,319
Speaker 2: idea who he is. That's that's the spot that they're

890
00:44:14,320 --> 00:44:17,319
Speaker 2: in a little bit right now, at least here Stateside.

891
00:44:16,840 --> 00:44:21,239
Speaker 5: My buddy, the Commissioner, Christian Cooper. FA Yeah, he's in

892
00:44:21,239 --> 00:44:21,840
Speaker 5: your next face.

893
00:44:22,800 --> 00:44:24,680
Speaker 2: Well, it'd be nice. He's got to be great.

894
00:44:25,160 --> 00:44:26,000
Speaker 5: He's got to be great.

895
00:44:26,040 --> 00:44:29,640
Speaker 2: He's got to be great. And he's nineteen eighteen. He

896
00:44:29,680 --> 00:44:32,600
Speaker 2: can't drink no. I yeah, I know. None of these guys.

897
00:44:32,719 --> 00:44:34,960
Speaker 2: I mean, that's like the Williams guy for Oklahoma City.

898
00:44:35,000 --> 00:44:37,640
Speaker 2: He's at he's he played three years at Santa Clara.

899
00:44:38,360 --> 00:44:40,719
Speaker 2: That's how hard this is to try to understand. He

900
00:44:40,800 --> 00:44:43,399
Speaker 2: was the twelfth pick in the draft. Like, you never

901
00:44:43,440 --> 00:44:45,359
Speaker 2: know with these guys anymore CORECT. You don't know how

902
00:44:45,400 --> 00:44:47,080
Speaker 2: they're going to grow or how they're going to develop.

903
00:44:47,200 --> 00:44:50,640
Speaker 2: So yeah, I think all those factors are there. But yeah,

904
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Speaker 2: the beginning, very very beginning for Okay, see all right,

905
00:44:53,680 --> 00:44:55,759
Speaker 2: our buddy Greg Noose was on Good Morning Football. We'll

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Speaker 2: O buddy Greg Noose was on Good Morning Football this morning,

917
00:45:37,360 --> 00:45:40,040
Speaker 2: a wide ranging discussion. Let's have a listen.

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00:45:40,120 --> 00:45:41,600
Speaker 9: All right, man, dude, we have the ash you been.

919
00:45:41,640 --> 00:45:43,480
Speaker 9: Do you know all the QB situation? You guys have

920
00:45:43,520 --> 00:45:45,680
Speaker 9: had cameras all over the place. You guys have about

921
00:45:45,680 --> 00:45:46,960
Speaker 9: seventeen qbs.

922
00:45:46,560 --> 00:45:47,239
Speaker 3: On the depth chart.

923
00:45:47,440 --> 00:45:50,160
Speaker 9: We need to know from the defensive perspective, give us

924
00:45:50,160 --> 00:45:52,600
Speaker 9: an idea of how you have perceived all these guys

925
00:45:52,640 --> 00:45:55,200
Speaker 9: to be different. Right, you got Flacco, you got Picket,

926
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Speaker 9: you got Gabriel.

927
00:45:56,040 --> 00:45:56,760
Speaker 6: You got Sanders.

928
00:45:57,000 --> 00:45:59,440
Speaker 9: What have you seen from these guys from then the

929
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Speaker 9: tired debt chart from a defensive side.

930
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Speaker 6: Of the ball.

931
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Speaker 10: Yeah, like you said, I think they're all different. You've

932
00:46:04,719 --> 00:46:09,439
Speaker 10: got Flecco, who's a season bet, still has an incredible arm,

933
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Speaker 10: can make pretty much any throw.

934
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Speaker 6: I mean, You've got Kenny Pickett.

935
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Speaker 10: Who's a who's a proven guy, who's one games in

936
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Speaker 10: this league, a guy who's not going to make too

937
00:46:18,520 --> 00:46:21,720
Speaker 10: many mistakes. They got the two young bulls and Dylan,

938
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Speaker 10: Gabriel and Shador, which has been fun to watch them, bro,

939
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Speaker 10: and they all do something a little bit different.

940
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Speaker 6: So it's been amazing just to watch.

941
00:46:30,400 --> 00:46:32,880
Speaker 10: And we're super excited because I feel like with competition,

942
00:46:32,920 --> 00:46:34,480
Speaker 10: you're going to bring the best out of everybody.

943
00:46:34,600 --> 00:46:36,640
Speaker 11: Greg, shout out one of them who's looked really good?

944
00:46:36,680 --> 00:46:38,919
Speaker 11: Who if you liked you're watching these guys who looks sharp?

945
00:46:39,200 --> 00:46:42,560
Speaker 10: Yeah, I like, obviously I haven't went against your door

946
00:46:42,600 --> 00:46:47,040
Speaker 10: too much, but you know, just watching the film and everything, he's.

947
00:46:46,640 --> 00:46:48,520
Speaker 6: Been doing an amazing, amazing job.

948
00:46:49,040 --> 00:46:51,319
Speaker 10: And then the rets Dylan has been getting against us

949
00:46:51,440 --> 00:46:54,839
Speaker 10: and Shoe and really everybody been doing a pretty good job.

950
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Speaker 10: But I think everybody commands the offense in different ways.

951
00:46:58,120 --> 00:47:00,080
Speaker 10: So it's been super fun to watch.

952
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Speaker 6: The Yeah, I bet it has.

953
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Speaker 11: You know, Shador, it is this thing where he he

954
00:47:04,760 --> 00:47:08,200
Speaker 11: might be the most famous fifth round pick and you

955
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Speaker 11: as a corner, like his dad is Dion, and he's

956
00:47:11,040 --> 00:47:14,839
Speaker 11: just he's this culture personality and he's everywhere. What is

957
00:47:14,880 --> 00:47:17,279
Speaker 11: he like just as a guy, as a teammate, what's

958
00:47:17,280 --> 00:47:17,720
Speaker 11: it been.

959
00:47:17,600 --> 00:47:22,160
Speaker 10: Like, yeah, no, he's been amazing a sponge, I would say,

960
00:47:22,600 --> 00:47:25,200
Speaker 10: it's just crazy that guy is young with this much

961
00:47:25,280 --> 00:47:29,040
Speaker 10: notoriety can just handle media and things like that. I

962
00:47:29,080 --> 00:47:32,560
Speaker 10: think his dad has really taught him how, you know,

963
00:47:32,680 --> 00:47:35,880
Speaker 10: to be that guy in the spotlight and understand that

964
00:47:35,960 --> 00:47:37,879
Speaker 10: what comes with it. And I think he's been doing

965
00:47:37,880 --> 00:47:41,680
Speaker 10: an incredible job of just learning and getting better each day.

966
00:47:41,960 --> 00:47:44,200
Speaker 12: Hey, also on the defensive side, right, you guys just

967
00:47:44,280 --> 00:47:47,200
Speaker 12: signed Miles Garrett of course to a monster deal. Like

968
00:47:47,239 --> 00:47:48,719
Speaker 12: what type of type of teammate has he been in

969
00:47:48,800 --> 00:47:49,520
Speaker 12: locker room lately?

970
00:47:49,880 --> 00:47:51,000
Speaker 6: Yeah, he's a monster.

971
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Speaker 10: He brings a lot of energy to his locker room

972
00:47:54,239 --> 00:47:57,120
Speaker 10: where people don't see behind the scenes, like just always

973
00:47:57,160 --> 00:48:01,759
Speaker 10: playing with everybody. He's a guy he's reachable to everybody

974
00:48:01,800 --> 00:48:03,839
Speaker 10: on the on the team, not just the defense. He's

975
00:48:03,880 --> 00:48:07,360
Speaker 10: not just a guy that says to himself. He's a

976
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Speaker 10: guy that brings the energy and is a He's a

977
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Speaker 10: huge leader for us out.

978
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Speaker 6: There on the field. All Right, I have to ask

979
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Speaker 6: you this question, man.

980
00:48:12,360 --> 00:48:15,040
Speaker 9: You the game of football, right, we visualize a lot, right,

981
00:48:15,080 --> 00:48:18,080
Speaker 9: we man to kind of manifest us making plays, and

982
00:48:18,160 --> 00:48:20,080
Speaker 9: now all of a sudden, you know your division rival

983
00:48:20,120 --> 00:48:22,799
Speaker 9: goes out there and science Aaron Rodgers, a k A

984
00:48:22,800 --> 00:48:27,880
Speaker 9: a ron a john Wick. And have you visualized yourself

985
00:48:28,239 --> 00:48:30,440
Speaker 9: picking off Aaron Rodgers And if so, give us a

986
00:48:30,480 --> 00:48:32,239
Speaker 9: rundown of how that how that kind of played out.

987
00:48:32,440 --> 00:48:33,239
Speaker 6: Yeah, definitely.

988
00:48:33,840 --> 00:48:35,879
Speaker 10: You know it's the Steelers, you know, that's that's our

989
00:48:36,040 --> 00:48:41,720
Speaker 10: that's our arch nemesis. So definitely see that happening both

990
00:48:41,920 --> 00:48:45,120
Speaker 10: in Cleveland and in Pittsburgh. So you know it can

991
00:48:45,160 --> 00:48:47,720
Speaker 10: happen in the multitude of ways. A tip passed by

992
00:48:47,960 --> 00:48:51,040
Speaker 10: some of the great d linemen. We got just a

993
00:48:51,080 --> 00:48:53,880
Speaker 10: great play, you know against a guy like DK Metcalf

994
00:48:54,320 --> 00:48:56,880
Speaker 10: and Friar moved. So I think there's a lot of

995
00:48:56,880 --> 00:49:00,319
Speaker 10: different ways. But I'm super excited because I think, you know,

996
00:49:00,440 --> 00:49:02,440
Speaker 10: this is the best division in football, so adding a

997
00:49:02,480 --> 00:49:05,040
Speaker 10: guy like him, she's gonna make it even tougher.

998
00:49:05,160 --> 00:49:05,440
Speaker 2: Yeah.

999
00:49:05,480 --> 00:49:09,799
Speaker 12: So I grew up in Cleveland, so I hated the Browns.

1000
00:49:09,840 --> 00:49:13,200
Speaker 12: My favorite team was the Steelers, as crazy as that sounds.

1001
00:49:13,239 --> 00:49:15,720
Speaker 12: But so again, now you have Rogers in the conference,

1002
00:49:15,719 --> 00:49:19,120
Speaker 12: I have Burrow and Lamar of course, so rank them

1003
00:49:19,160 --> 00:49:23,160
Speaker 12: from three to one, which one would you most want.

1004
00:49:23,000 --> 00:49:23,960
Speaker 6: To get a pick off of?

1005
00:49:24,120 --> 00:49:26,319
Speaker 12: And any of these, like you know, like a ball

1006
00:49:26,320 --> 00:49:28,440
Speaker 12: that you would get signed take home or anything like that.

1007
00:49:28,680 --> 00:49:31,319
Speaker 6: Yeah, for sure. Well since I got Lamar.

1008
00:49:31,520 --> 00:49:32,160
Speaker 3: I got him.

1009
00:49:32,239 --> 00:49:34,279
Speaker 6: Okay, well we'll take him down a little bit.

1010
00:49:34,400 --> 00:49:36,720
Speaker 10: Yeah, but you know, I'm gonna go Joe Burrow first

1011
00:49:36,880 --> 00:49:39,640
Speaker 10: just because we played in Week one, so you know,

1012
00:49:39,680 --> 00:49:41,239
Speaker 10: I'm trying to I'm trying to get off to a

1013
00:49:41,280 --> 00:49:44,359
Speaker 10: great start. Yeah, he's a guy that I love going

1014
00:49:44,400 --> 00:49:47,160
Speaker 10: against my entire career and it's been super fun.

1015
00:49:47,200 --> 00:49:50,640
Speaker 6: And then honestly A rides right there up there with him.

1016
00:49:50,960 --> 00:49:53,560
Speaker 10: That's a guy that's, you know, one of the top

1017
00:49:53,640 --> 00:49:57,880
Speaker 10: five greatest quarterbacks ever. Lace him up so that that'll

1018
00:49:57,920 --> 00:49:59,000
Speaker 10: be super amazing too.

1019
00:49:59,560 --> 00:50:03,560
Speaker 2: Really good stuff with Greg Good Morning Football this morning.

1020
00:50:05,880 --> 00:50:11,160
Speaker 5: Loves going up against the best. Well, congratulations, you're going

1021
00:50:11,200 --> 00:50:14,200
Speaker 5: to go up against the best this year and in

1022
00:50:14,160 --> 00:50:16,240
Speaker 5: the quarterbacks in our division.

1023
00:50:16,640 --> 00:50:24,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's an interesting one. If Rogers plays at let's

1024
00:50:24,600 --> 00:50:26,520
Speaker 2: say he plays how he played his last year in

1025
00:50:26,520 --> 00:50:34,000
Speaker 2: Green Bay. Where does this group? What was probably the

1026
00:50:34,000 --> 00:50:37,400
Speaker 2: best the quarterback position was ever ever represented in this division?

1027
00:50:38,400 --> 00:50:38,600
Speaker 3: Was it?

1028
00:50:38,719 --> 00:50:44,200
Speaker 2: Moon kozar asiasin Mark alone?

1029
00:50:44,360 --> 00:50:47,400
Speaker 5: Like that was trash.

1030
00:50:47,760 --> 00:50:51,719
Speaker 2: It was great because that's what I watched wins, right,

1031
00:50:52,880 --> 00:50:56,600
Speaker 2: So then the way back would have been like Bradshaw,

1032
00:50:57,440 --> 00:51:02,600
Speaker 2: Sipeh and Kenny Anderson, and then who would have been

1033
00:51:02,800 --> 00:51:06,080
Speaker 2: in Who would have been in Houston at that time?

1034
00:51:06,160 --> 00:51:10,040
Speaker 2: Is that like when they're running through like like arch

1035
00:51:10,360 --> 00:51:12,920
Speaker 2: Archie Manning and like the like kind of the end

1036
00:51:12,960 --> 00:51:15,680
Speaker 2: of that who's quarterbacking Houston like in nineteen in the

1037
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Speaker 2: late seventies early eighties. I yeah, And then in the

1038
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Speaker 2: contemporary times there wouldn't be there wouldn't be anything in

1039
00:51:24,760 --> 00:51:26,640
Speaker 2: contemporary times it would be better than what it is

1040
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Speaker 2: right now. It is Palmer Roethlisberger. No, oh, well, Palmer Roethlisberger, Flacco.

1041
00:51:34,600 --> 00:51:38,560
Speaker 2: How often? How much did that cross over? Not much?

1042
00:51:40,239 --> 00:51:47,920
Speaker 5: But what about I mean when you had Baker, Burrow, Lamar,

1043
00:51:49,040 --> 00:51:51,120
Speaker 5: and Ben, I think was still there.

1044
00:51:51,160 --> 00:51:54,879
Speaker 2: End of Ben, beginning of Baker, beginning of Joe, end

1045
00:51:54,920 --> 00:51:58,000
Speaker 2: of Ben, beginning of Lamar middle, yeah, kind of early

1046
00:51:58,200 --> 00:52:05,799
Speaker 2: parts of Lamar. I think this might. Yeah, you have

1047
00:52:05,880 --> 00:52:09,480
Speaker 2: two MVP top five MVP candidates and Burrow and Lamar.

1048
00:52:10,120 --> 00:52:12,359
Speaker 2: Burrow probably wins the MVP last year if they just

1049
00:52:12,480 --> 00:52:14,640
Speaker 2: win two more games, he probably wins it. So you

1050
00:52:14,640 --> 00:52:17,080
Speaker 2: have two legit MVP candidates. You have one of the

1051
00:52:17,120 --> 00:52:21,399
Speaker 2: most decorated individual players. Now this is all needing him

1052
00:52:21,440 --> 00:52:23,759
Speaker 2: to come along, is the thing, And then we just

1053
00:52:23,800 --> 00:52:28,879
Speaker 2: have uncertainty at our spot. It's probably it's probably it's

1054
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Speaker 2: probably asiasin Cozar Moon and the Mark Malone, Bubby Britster

1055
00:52:36,680 --> 00:52:40,680
Speaker 2: Pittsburgh spot. That's probably the apex of it. But this

1056
00:52:40,760 --> 00:52:42,960
Speaker 2: is pretty close the one you just mentioned. Pretty close.

1057
00:52:43,840 --> 00:52:49,960
Speaker 2: I don't know how many seasons Palmer, Roethlisberger, Flacco, but

1058
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Speaker 2: then we were running ad guy out every year at

1059
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Speaker 2: that time, so we wouldn't have much to contribute there. No,

1060
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Speaker 2: it's pretty good, though, I mean.

1061
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Speaker 8: Was it?

1062
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Speaker 5: Would you say Aaron Rodgers was one of the fifteen

1063
00:53:02,440 --> 00:53:06,759
Speaker 5: best quarterbacks in the NFL a year ago twenty nine

1064
00:53:06,760 --> 00:53:07,880
Speaker 5: TDS ten picks?

1065
00:53:08,560 --> 00:53:11,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I yeah, fifteen best. Yeah, he was

1066
00:53:11,640 --> 00:53:14,359
Speaker 2: top half of the league. Yeah, So I think if

1067
00:53:14,360 --> 00:53:17,960
Speaker 2: you're there, if he's top twelve of the league, then

1068
00:53:18,400 --> 00:53:22,080
Speaker 2: the other two were top five. Yeah, so and then

1069
00:53:22,120 --> 00:53:26,399
Speaker 2: whatever happens with our situation. So yeah, it's an interesting one.

1070
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Speaker 2: It's it's very very healthy, which isn't necessarily good news

1071
00:53:30,120 --> 00:53:32,239
Speaker 2: for us, although Greg will be chomping at the bit

1072
00:53:32,320 --> 00:53:35,000
Speaker 2: from it for sure. All right, we're gonna rank some

1073
00:53:35,040 --> 00:53:37,080
Speaker 2: position rooms. Have a little fun here in the second

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Speaker 2: slash tickets now. All right, our tasks this segment rank

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00:54:19,680 --> 00:54:23,520
Speaker 2: every position room on our roster one to eleven based

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00:54:23,520 --> 00:54:26,279
Speaker 2: on the well you have the most confidence into the

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00:54:26,280 --> 00:54:30,160
Speaker 2: one with the most questions. So in this instance, one

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00:54:31,160 --> 00:54:34,640
Speaker 2: higher least all the confidence in the world. We're good

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00:54:34,640 --> 00:54:37,640
Speaker 2: to go, correct, Lois would be eleven.

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00:54:38,120 --> 00:54:41,200
Speaker 5: A lot of questions, A lot of questions, concern possibly

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00:54:41,719 --> 00:54:42,680
Speaker 5: of questions.

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00:54:42,880 --> 00:54:44,399
Speaker 2: I have a tough time. I don't know what you.

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00:54:44,320 --> 00:54:46,800
Speaker 5: Exclude one big position.

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00:54:46,520 --> 00:54:48,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, I see. Quarterbacks are not on this list.

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00:54:48,600 --> 00:54:52,320
Speaker 5: Not a lot, because right now they would that be

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00:54:52,400 --> 00:54:53,600
Speaker 5: number eleven on your list?

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00:54:53,719 --> 00:54:55,880
Speaker 2: No, because I think it's I don't It wouldn't be

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00:54:55,880 --> 00:54:56,840
Speaker 2: eleven on the list for me.

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00:54:57,239 --> 00:54:59,640
Speaker 5: Really, No, Okay, Wall would you put it?

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00:55:00,280 --> 00:55:03,680
Speaker 2: I would have it somewhere in the back half. But

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00:55:04,120 --> 00:55:05,880
Speaker 2: I mean there's a million questions around it. But I

1101
00:55:05,880 --> 00:55:09,240
Speaker 2: also think it'll be just fine. Whatever happens at quarterback

1102
00:55:09,239 --> 00:55:10,600
Speaker 2: this year. It's going to be better than what we

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00:55:10,640 --> 00:55:13,680
Speaker 2: had last year. We took a step in the right

1104
00:55:13,680 --> 00:55:17,000
Speaker 2: direction in the room, and so I think, no matter what,

1105
00:55:17,520 --> 00:55:19,279
Speaker 2: you're going to be better off at quarterback than you

1106
00:55:19,320 --> 00:55:22,680
Speaker 2: were a year ago. So I whether it's Flacco or

1107
00:55:22,760 --> 00:55:25,440
Speaker 2: Pickett or one of the two young guys, I think

1108
00:55:25,480 --> 00:55:28,239
Speaker 2: the offensive system will be better suited for their skill

1109
00:55:28,280 --> 00:55:31,880
Speaker 2: set as well. So I while I am curious and

1110
00:55:31,920 --> 00:55:34,160
Speaker 2: there are questions of who it's going to be, whoever

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00:55:34,239 --> 00:55:35,960
Speaker 2: it is, and whatever the plan is, I think will

1112
00:55:35,960 --> 00:55:38,000
Speaker 2: be better than the situation we're in last year, all right,

1113
00:55:38,040 --> 00:55:40,440
Speaker 2: So I would not have at eleven. The one that

1114
00:55:40,520 --> 00:55:44,759
Speaker 2: I have a tough time with here is specialist. I

1115
00:55:44,800 --> 00:55:46,800
Speaker 2: don't really know what to do with that. But Jorkez

1116
00:55:46,840 --> 00:55:50,839
Speaker 2: is great. Hopkins obviously was really really good year one

1117
00:55:51,120 --> 00:55:53,640
Speaker 2: A little bit down last year. I don't really know

1118
00:55:53,680 --> 00:55:55,680
Speaker 2: what we're doing at punt return, kick return. You know,

1119
00:55:55,719 --> 00:55:57,080
Speaker 2: I know the names that are out there, but in

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00:55:57,160 --> 00:55:58,920
Speaker 2: terms of what that looks like, I don't know. So

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00:55:58,960 --> 00:56:02,200
Speaker 2: that's kind of a b yorkea Hopkins. How do I feel?

1122
00:56:02,320 --> 00:56:04,319
Speaker 2: And I feel great confidence in both of those guys,

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00:56:04,320 --> 00:56:07,920
Speaker 2: So that's kind of a tricky one to rate. Basically,

1124
00:56:07,960 --> 00:56:11,600
Speaker 2: with special teams, you just don't want to be noticed exactly.

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Speaker 5: I put them right in the middle. They're kind of

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00:56:14,080 --> 00:56:15,600
Speaker 5: right in the middle. Yeah, I put them right in

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00:56:15,600 --> 00:56:19,480
Speaker 5: the middle. The biggest question I don't think is the returners.

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Speaker 5: I need to know the de Hop's going to recover. Yeah,

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00:56:22,960 --> 00:56:24,960
Speaker 5: and I love them and I want him to recover.

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00:56:25,080 --> 00:56:28,359
Speaker 5: I want him to be good. But like, I got

1131
00:56:28,360 --> 00:56:32,040
Speaker 5: to know that I've got plenty of trust if when

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00:56:32,080 --> 00:56:34,200
Speaker 5: push comes to shove in the late in the fourth quarter,

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00:56:35,800 --> 00:56:38,040
Speaker 5: everybody's coming in looking like a drowned rat.

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00:56:38,560 --> 00:56:42,280
Speaker 2: Well, guess what it's raining again? Kids? Yeah, by the way,

1135
00:56:42,560 --> 00:56:46,279
Speaker 2: utter nonsense that it's gray all day today. We just

1136
00:56:46,400 --> 00:56:51,200
Speaker 2: utter nonsense. Yeah, June it thunderstorm, fine, but then move on,

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00:56:51,440 --> 00:56:54,120
Speaker 2: ye all right? Most do you want to do? Most

1138
00:56:54,200 --> 00:57:00,080
Speaker 2: questions or least questions to start, uh I, I do

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00:57:00,120 --> 00:57:01,520
Speaker 2: you want to start from the one or to start

1140
00:57:01,520 --> 00:57:01,960
Speaker 2: from eleven?

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00:57:02,000 --> 00:57:02,719
Speaker 5: I would start one.

1142
00:57:02,960 --> 00:57:07,400
Speaker 2: Okay, well this is this is to me I have

1143
00:57:07,680 --> 00:57:09,480
Speaker 2: I think this room is I think this room is

1144
00:57:09,520 --> 00:57:12,000
Speaker 2: as good as any in the league. I think it's

1145
00:57:12,320 --> 00:57:14,319
Speaker 2: no quote, it's been a big point of emphasis. There's

1146
00:57:14,440 --> 00:57:17,160
Speaker 2: been a great investment in it. To me, it's very

1147
00:57:17,160 --> 00:57:20,280
Speaker 2: clearly corner is number one strength on this football team. Okay,

1148
00:57:20,400 --> 00:57:22,640
Speaker 2: I think you've got three dudes. I think beyond it,

1149
00:57:22,640 --> 00:57:24,800
Speaker 2: it's good. You got one of the I think you

1150
00:57:24,800 --> 00:57:27,120
Speaker 2: have the best mirror corner in the league in Denzel Zenzel.

1151
00:57:27,200 --> 00:57:30,480
Speaker 2: I think MJ bounces back big this year. I think

1152
00:57:30,560 --> 00:57:32,600
Speaker 2: Newsom is gonna be great again. I think that's the

1153
00:57:32,640 --> 00:57:35,080
Speaker 2: strongest top to bottom unit on the Ross.

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00:57:35,120 --> 00:57:39,520
Speaker 5: So we disagree. I have defensive end. I think that

1155
00:57:40,000 --> 00:57:43,920
Speaker 5: there's seven or eight guys in that defensive end room. Obviously,

1156
00:57:43,960 --> 00:57:47,520
Speaker 5: you've got a defensive player of the year in Miles.

1157
00:57:48,080 --> 00:57:55,600
Speaker 5: I think Isaiah McGuire, Alex Right, yeah, Obo, you got

1158
00:57:55,760 --> 00:58:00,360
Speaker 5: Joe Tryon Shyenko who we went out and got there.

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00:58:01,120 --> 00:58:05,520
Speaker 5: I'm missing a name. Well, you got most of Themara.

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00:58:04,520 --> 00:58:06,560
Speaker 2: You got Akuara in there. I think you've got them all.

1161
00:58:06,600 --> 00:58:08,840
Speaker 2: I have it too, I have I have defensive end

1162
00:58:08,880 --> 00:58:11,560
Speaker 2: number two. The only reason I don't have it, the

1163
00:58:11,600 --> 00:58:13,960
Speaker 2: only reason I don't have it higher than corner is

1164
00:58:14,000 --> 00:58:18,479
Speaker 2: I think the corner room is more proven whereas it's

1165
00:58:18,600 --> 00:58:21,600
Speaker 2: I mean, Miles is Miles is probably a better overall

1166
00:58:21,640 --> 00:58:23,720
Speaker 2: player than Denzel. I mean, he's a defensive Player of

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00:58:23,720 --> 00:58:25,160
Speaker 2: the Year, is one of the five best players in

1168
00:58:25,200 --> 00:58:28,880
Speaker 2: the whole league. But Denzel's in the vicinity. But then

1169
00:58:28,920 --> 00:58:31,520
Speaker 2: the next two corners, MJ and Newsom. I've seen their

1170
00:58:31,600 --> 00:58:33,320
Speaker 2: high end a little more than I've seen the high

1171
00:58:33,360 --> 00:58:34,840
Speaker 2: end of the other d ns. But I have d

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Speaker 2: N two. I have number two on the fens. Yeah,

1173
00:58:37,360 --> 00:58:38,760
Speaker 2: so we're pretty aligned there.

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00:58:38,800 --> 00:58:42,600
Speaker 5: I don't have corner at number two. I have interior

1175
00:58:42,640 --> 00:58:43,480
Speaker 5: offensive line.

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00:58:44,520 --> 00:58:48,080
Speaker 2: Okay, I have that three. So with the guards in

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00:58:48,120 --> 00:58:52,360
Speaker 2: the center. The only thing here is just health. It's

1178
00:58:52,400 --> 00:58:55,640
Speaker 2: it's agent health. But I think it's the strongest for sure,

1179
00:58:55,720 --> 00:58:59,640
Speaker 2: the strongest unit on the offense. And I do think

1180
00:58:59,760 --> 00:59:01,640
Speaker 2: Zen will bounce back after a little bit of a

1181
00:59:01,640 --> 00:59:04,440
Speaker 2: tough year. They loved Whippler before the injury. So the

1182
00:59:04,480 --> 00:59:06,760
Speaker 2: guys behind the guys are pretty good. That's the future

1183
00:59:06,800 --> 00:59:11,680
Speaker 2: planning when healthy postic Potonio Teller is the best interior group,

1184
00:59:11,720 --> 00:59:14,800
Speaker 2: but it's they're aging and they've got to stay healthy.

1185
00:59:14,920 --> 00:59:18,120
Speaker 2: But yeah, I have that three gotcha, So I'm with

1186
00:59:18,160 --> 00:59:20,520
Speaker 2: you on that. At three, I head corner so we

1187
00:59:20,600 --> 00:59:24,000
Speaker 2: have the same same combinations. We're all thinking the same thing.

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00:59:24,920 --> 00:59:26,640
Speaker 5: Number four, who do you have?

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00:59:26,800 --> 00:59:28,080
Speaker 2: What were your questions with corner?

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00:59:29,080 --> 00:59:29,200
Speaker 6: Uh?

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00:59:29,400 --> 00:59:32,400
Speaker 5: I need to know that the guys behind Greg Newsom's

1192
00:59:32,400 --> 00:59:33,240
Speaker 5: in a contract here.

1193
00:59:33,440 --> 00:59:35,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, MJSON cantrol those guys.

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00:59:35,680 --> 00:59:39,400
Speaker 5: Yeah, like we've taken a corner every year for the

1195
00:59:39,440 --> 00:59:42,840
Speaker 5: last couple of years in row. You know, on day three,

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00:59:43,480 --> 00:59:45,680
Speaker 5: I need to see what those guys can do. I

1197
00:59:45,720 --> 00:59:48,040
Speaker 5: got you, you know, and I want to see those

1198
00:59:48,040 --> 00:59:52,000
Speaker 5: guys take a step forward because we got three good corners,

1199
00:59:52,200 --> 00:59:55,000
Speaker 5: but all three of them have had injuries. Yes, I

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00:59:55,000 --> 00:59:57,960
Speaker 5: mean Denzel gets hurt. Denzel's gonna miss four to four

1201
00:59:57,960 --> 01:00:01,880
Speaker 5: to five weeks, Yeah, potentially, you know. I mean Newsom

1202
01:00:01,920 --> 01:00:05,560
Speaker 5: has missed some significant time. MJ has missed some time,

1203
01:00:05,600 --> 01:00:07,880
Speaker 5: but he's also played through injuries. But when he's playing

1204
01:00:07,880 --> 01:00:10,080
Speaker 5: through injuries sometimes it's pretty tough.

1205
01:00:10,280 --> 01:00:10,520
Speaker 2: Yep.

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Speaker 5: So I need to know what that depth is because

1207
01:00:14,360 --> 01:00:17,560
Speaker 5: with a seventeen game schedule, you need all the corners

1208
01:00:17,560 --> 01:00:18,000
Speaker 5: you can get.

1209
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Speaker 2: Yes, I'm proud of that, all right, Number four, number

1210
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Speaker 2: four for you. Number four, I had defensive tackle, okay,

1211
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Speaker 2: Mason Graham, Malie Collins, Shelby Harris. I think Juwan Briggs

1212
01:00:32,960 --> 01:00:36,520
Speaker 2: showed some things. Mike Hall is still recovering. He wasn't

1213
01:00:36,520 --> 01:00:39,720
Speaker 2: out at mini camp last week, but I think he'll

1214
01:00:39,720 --> 01:00:44,080
Speaker 2: be back sooner rather than later. And I think for

1215
01:00:44,200 --> 01:00:47,040
Speaker 2: what you want to do in that room, let's see,

1216
01:00:47,320 --> 01:00:50,520
Speaker 2: let's see what Mason grahams brings to that table. I

1217
01:00:51,280 --> 01:00:55,000
Speaker 2: have a number four the tight ends, Chief at the

1218
01:00:55,040 --> 01:00:57,480
Speaker 2: top of that, fannin underneath. I think Fannon is going

1219
01:00:57,560 --> 01:01:00,520
Speaker 2: to be an absolute stud behind that. I do think

1220
01:01:00,560 --> 01:01:03,040
Speaker 2: they'd like to add maybe one more. I want. I'm

1221
01:01:03,120 --> 01:01:05,960
Speaker 2: very curious, you know, when we get into training camp,

1222
01:01:06,000 --> 01:01:08,280
Speaker 2: they add another one if there's something this summer. But

1223
01:01:08,360 --> 01:01:10,560
Speaker 2: I have tight end number four. I think I think

1224
01:01:10,640 --> 01:01:13,200
Speaker 2: Chief and Fan and Are are pretty much lights out,

1225
01:01:13,200 --> 01:01:14,800
Speaker 2: and I think those guys will both have very very

1226
01:01:14,800 --> 01:01:17,760
Speaker 2: big years. So you went D tackle, I went I

1227
01:01:17,760 --> 01:01:19,880
Speaker 2: went D tackle at five. Okay, So this is where

1228
01:01:19,920 --> 01:01:25,360
Speaker 2: I have d tackle the only thing, it's just my call.

1229
01:01:26,320 --> 01:01:28,400
Speaker 2: Put it all together, baby, because it's all there for you.

1230
01:01:29,280 --> 01:01:31,160
Speaker 2: And then I just we haven't seen Mason Graham at

1231
01:01:31,160 --> 01:01:33,800
Speaker 2: this level yet, and that's the only reason because otherwise,

1232
01:01:33,840 --> 01:01:35,880
Speaker 2: like the depth is good, Shelby, the leak they get,

1233
01:01:36,080 --> 01:01:39,200
Speaker 2: it's it's a really good room. But I just we

1234
01:01:39,240 --> 01:01:41,880
Speaker 2: have not seen Mason Graham play NFL football yet. And

1235
01:01:41,920 --> 01:01:44,240
Speaker 2: I realize we haven't seen fan and play NFL football yet.

1236
01:01:44,320 --> 01:01:46,960
Speaker 2: But I think Chief right now is more established than

1237
01:01:47,000 --> 01:01:49,120
Speaker 2: the veterans on the defensive tackle. So that's the reason

1238
01:01:49,160 --> 01:01:50,880
Speaker 2: I have tight ends ahead of that. But I did

1239
01:01:50,880 --> 01:01:53,040
Speaker 2: have D tackle five. Who'd you have at five? At five?

1240
01:01:53,240 --> 01:01:56,960
Speaker 5: I know we haven't seen them play in NFL games yet,

1241
01:01:57,200 --> 01:01:59,200
Speaker 5: but my confidence level could not be higher in the

1242
01:01:59,280 --> 01:02:03,479
Speaker 5: running back room. I mean, that's I think from from

1243
01:02:03,520 --> 01:02:07,800
Speaker 5: that standpoint, Jerome Ford, you know what you get Pierre Strong,

1244
01:02:08,520 --> 01:02:12,000
Speaker 5: that's another guy that you gotta stay healthy. It starts there.

1245
01:02:12,320 --> 01:02:16,280
Speaker 5: But with Judkins and Samson, I'm excited by it. I

1246
01:02:16,320 --> 01:02:18,520
Speaker 5: think that could be the focal point of your offense

1247
01:02:18,760 --> 01:02:19,840
Speaker 5: in twenty twenty five.

1248
01:02:20,200 --> 01:02:21,920
Speaker 2: Needs to be. We're gonna win. It needs to be.

1249
01:02:23,000 --> 01:02:25,120
Speaker 2: So you had those guys at five, Yes, okay, I

1250
01:02:25,160 --> 01:02:27,840
Speaker 2: have them at six. So we view this pretty similarly.

1251
01:02:28,680 --> 01:02:31,160
Speaker 2: And again it's just I'm like you, I'm Missouri, I'm

1252
01:02:31,160 --> 01:02:33,120
Speaker 2: the show me state. I just need to see the

1253
01:02:33,160 --> 01:02:36,000
Speaker 2: two backs go. They look great in rookie mini camp,

1254
01:02:36,040 --> 01:02:39,320
Speaker 2: they looked awesome and mandatory mini camp, but we as deuced.

1255
01:02:39,400 --> 01:02:42,000
Speaker 2: Daley was quick to point out to them, we're not

1256
01:02:42,040 --> 01:02:44,240
Speaker 2: in pads, so we'll see who's a grown man by

1257
01:02:44,240 --> 01:02:46,240
Speaker 2: the time you get in pads. But those guys all

1258
01:02:46,240 --> 01:02:48,760
Speaker 2: look good. Samson's a stud, Jenkins is a stud. Let's

1259
01:02:48,760 --> 01:02:52,160
Speaker 2: not forget about Jerome Ford pier Strong when healthy's very good.

1260
01:02:52,880 --> 01:02:54,840
Speaker 2: I like that he's got to see on the field.

1261
01:02:54,880 --> 01:02:56,480
Speaker 2: But I mean he's the fourth guy here, which gives

1262
01:02:56,520 --> 01:02:58,600
Speaker 2: you an idea of that of the kind of the

1263
01:02:58,640 --> 01:02:59,400
Speaker 2: talent that's there.

1264
01:02:59,440 --> 01:03:02,880
Speaker 5: Who did you have at six? I had a linebacker actually, okay,

1265
01:03:03,440 --> 01:03:07,080
Speaker 5: I like the linebacker room. I know there's no j

1266
01:03:07,200 --> 01:03:10,200
Speaker 5: Okay and that's a tremendous loss. I think Swesssinger can

1267
01:03:10,240 --> 01:03:14,240
Speaker 5: fill that void. I think Hicks is solid. Baker, I'm interested,

1268
01:03:15,240 --> 01:03:17,720
Speaker 5: Although Baker, I think it was with more the threes

1269
01:03:17,760 --> 01:03:21,800
Speaker 5: and fours in mandatory Mini camp, So I'm not sure

1270
01:03:21,840 --> 01:03:26,400
Speaker 5: what that reads to me, but Diabate and Reid are

1271
01:03:26,520 --> 01:03:29,960
Speaker 5: solid players. Devin Bush we like Devin Bush like. There's

1272
01:03:30,000 --> 01:03:32,280
Speaker 5: a lot of depth there at linebacker, and I think

1273
01:03:32,400 --> 01:03:35,760
Speaker 5: to make the team, it's not necessarily your play at linebacker.

1274
01:03:35,800 --> 01:03:37,560
Speaker 5: It's going to be on special teams for that room.

1275
01:03:38,280 --> 01:03:41,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, I have that, So you have him six, I

1276
01:03:41,080 --> 01:03:43,440
Speaker 2: have them seven, so I have linebacker seven. So we

1277
01:03:43,480 --> 01:03:46,080
Speaker 2: see this kind of similarly as well. Probably our biggest

1278
01:03:46,120 --> 01:03:48,400
Speaker 2: discrepancy is wherever you land on tight end. That seems

1279
01:03:48,400 --> 01:03:50,760
Speaker 2: to be the biggest one because I think this linebacker

1280
01:03:50,840 --> 01:03:53,720
Speaker 2: room is really good too. I think they need Sweashinger

1281
01:03:54,000 --> 01:03:56,480
Speaker 2: in order to be this high on this roster. They

1282
01:03:56,560 --> 01:04:00,720
Speaker 2: need Sweassinger to be what he looks to be. He folks,

1283
01:04:01,200 --> 01:04:04,520
Speaker 2: he looks like a stud. His sideline to sideline stuff,

1284
01:04:04,680 --> 01:04:07,280
Speaker 2: his ability to turn and run and get deep and

1285
01:04:07,360 --> 01:04:10,480
Speaker 2: cover two. He's such a tremendous athlete. He's way bigger

1286
01:04:10,480 --> 01:04:14,440
Speaker 2: than you realize. He plays big. He's rangy. But they

1287
01:04:14,520 --> 01:04:16,240
Speaker 2: need him to be that because the loss of j

1288
01:04:16,320 --> 01:04:19,520
Speaker 2: Oka is a massive loss. It's massive, So Sweessiger has

1289
01:04:19,560 --> 01:04:21,200
Speaker 2: to be great in year one for this room to

1290
01:04:21,200 --> 01:04:22,880
Speaker 2: be ranked this high, but my hunch as he will be.

1291
01:04:23,120 --> 01:04:26,680
Speaker 5: So it's interesting because I saw him in the cafe

1292
01:04:26,760 --> 01:04:31,280
Speaker 5: today and I'm like, God, he looks bigger. He's our

1293
01:04:31,280 --> 01:04:33,400
Speaker 5: strength and conditioning people have gotten their hands on him

1294
01:04:33,440 --> 01:04:36,800
Speaker 5: since the draft. Yeah, and I mean that was end

1295
01:04:36,840 --> 01:04:38,800
Speaker 5: of April, first week in May when they were here

1296
01:04:38,840 --> 01:04:41,600
Speaker 5: in the building. He's been here since. And yes, he's

1297
01:04:41,640 --> 01:04:44,600
Speaker 5: already balked up and it's pretty impressive already.

1298
01:04:44,640 --> 01:04:46,560
Speaker 2: We have to remember too, like all those guys shed

1299
01:04:46,560 --> 01:04:48,680
Speaker 2: weight so they can run fast, and now they're.

1300
01:04:48,640 --> 01:04:52,000
Speaker 5: Because they're doing stuff that you know we're running. Yeah,

1301
01:04:52,400 --> 01:04:54,360
Speaker 5: exactly that you're not going to do in the NFL.

1302
01:04:54,480 --> 01:04:58,120
Speaker 2: No, Uh, did we get your seven? I had the

1303
01:04:58,160 --> 01:05:00,000
Speaker 2: specialist at seven. You have specialists seven?

1304
01:05:00,200 --> 01:05:02,880
Speaker 5: Okay, just I'm like, Hopkins is the only question?

1305
01:05:03,280 --> 01:05:06,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, that I have them eight. So again we're pretty similar.

1306
01:05:06,200 --> 01:05:08,240
Speaker 2: So our biggest difference is definitely tight ends. I'm much

1307
01:05:08,280 --> 01:05:10,000
Speaker 2: higher on the tight end room than you are, which

1308
01:05:10,040 --> 01:05:12,000
Speaker 2: is crazy as a as a BG guy that you're

1309
01:05:12,000 --> 01:05:13,920
Speaker 2: doing BG crime. You hate to see it. I know,

1310
01:05:13,960 --> 01:05:15,120
Speaker 2: I hate to see that out of you. I have

1311
01:05:15,160 --> 01:05:18,040
Speaker 2: specialists eight. I would like for us to be dangerous

1312
01:05:18,040 --> 01:05:21,080
Speaker 2: in the return game. At some point that would be nice.

1313
01:05:21,600 --> 01:05:23,280
Speaker 2: Maybe Carter could be kind of the key to that

1314
01:05:24,120 --> 01:05:26,680
Speaker 2: be Orc has a stud and Hopkins has been. It

1315
01:05:26,720 --> 01:05:28,200
Speaker 2: was a weird thing last year. I have faith he'll

1316
01:05:28,240 --> 01:05:28,760
Speaker 2: bounce back.

1317
01:05:28,880 --> 01:05:31,280
Speaker 5: Yeah, I need him to. And last week there were

1318
01:05:31,320 --> 01:05:34,400
Speaker 5: just a couple of moments again where I'm watching him

1319
01:05:34,440 --> 01:05:38,000
Speaker 5: kick and I'm like, why why is it going left? It?

1320
01:05:38,160 --> 01:05:40,440
Speaker 2: Yeah? But I don't like that.

1321
01:05:40,840 --> 01:05:44,640
Speaker 5: Yeah, like, come on, let's go. We got to get

1322
01:05:44,640 --> 01:05:48,560
Speaker 5: it together on that. I have the safeties at number eight. Okay,

1323
01:05:49,720 --> 01:05:52,520
Speaker 5: I know it way down on tight ends. Yeah, you

1324
01:05:52,640 --> 01:05:55,240
Speaker 5: way down Hickman and Dealt. But I know what I get.

1325
01:05:56,800 --> 01:05:59,280
Speaker 2: I think do you think that you know what? I

1326
01:05:59,280 --> 01:06:02,920
Speaker 2: think Hickman needs year? He I think he needs it.

1327
01:06:02,960 --> 01:06:04,680
Speaker 2: I mean he had, he's it's been good. It's an

1328
01:06:04,760 --> 01:06:07,800
Speaker 2: undrafted guy, yes, but like so he's played above that.

1329
01:06:07,920 --> 01:06:12,720
Speaker 2: But now to be like a dude you got yeah, yeah.

1330
01:06:12,920 --> 01:06:16,960
Speaker 5: Okay, I can. I can make that argument. I love

1331
01:06:17,000 --> 01:06:20,040
Speaker 5: how they went out and got CAZy and Jenkins. I

1332
01:06:20,040 --> 01:06:22,960
Speaker 5: think that puts some of my fears to rest a

1333
01:06:22,960 --> 01:06:23,400
Speaker 5: little bit.

1334
01:06:23,680 --> 01:06:23,919
Speaker 7: Sure.

1335
01:06:23,960 --> 01:06:26,680
Speaker 5: Uh you know Coach Bonda was in here a few

1336
01:06:26,680 --> 01:06:29,960
Speaker 5: weeks ago. Loves Chris Edmonds kind of excited that or

1337
01:06:30,000 --> 01:06:35,640
Speaker 5: Donovan McMillan. Young guys with this, with this room for

1338
01:06:35,840 --> 01:06:40,520
Speaker 5: the first two. Got to stay healthy, got to delp

1339
01:06:40,680 --> 01:06:42,880
Speaker 5: needs to be healthy and be what he's been when

1340
01:06:42,880 --> 01:06:43,720
Speaker 5: he's been healthy.

1341
01:06:44,040 --> 01:06:46,960
Speaker 2: We're at nine. I'm I'm that was your nine with safety. No,

1342
01:06:47,080 --> 01:06:50,840
Speaker 2: it was safety. So nine for me is oh tackle

1343
01:06:51,480 --> 01:06:54,320
Speaker 2: is nine for me, And it's got nothing to do

1344
01:06:54,360 --> 01:06:57,080
Speaker 2: with talent. It's just availability. You just have to be

1345
01:06:57,160 --> 01:06:59,640
Speaker 2: healthy and so Dewan has to stay healthy, Jack has

1346
01:06:59,680 --> 01:07:02,959
Speaker 2: to stay healthy. Behind them, it's new faces too, which

1347
01:07:03,000 --> 01:07:05,040
Speaker 2: is you know, we've kind of had the similar backups

1348
01:07:05,040 --> 01:07:07,520
Speaker 2: for a while, but now it's Corney Lucas and Jackson

1349
01:07:07,560 --> 01:07:11,680
Speaker 2: Barton behind But this really comes down to if Dewan

1350
01:07:11,800 --> 01:07:14,240
Speaker 2: Jones and Jack Conklin can stay healthy, it's you can

1351
01:07:14,240 --> 01:07:16,160
Speaker 2: put it up there with any tackle group in the league.

1352
01:07:16,560 --> 01:07:18,360
Speaker 2: If they get if they get nicked, and both have

1353
01:07:18,400 --> 01:07:22,400
Speaker 2: been injury prone, then that's a problem. So that's that's

1354
01:07:22,440 --> 01:07:24,800
Speaker 2: the only hesitation because when healthy, it's it would be

1355
01:07:24,840 --> 01:07:25,440
Speaker 2: way higher.

1356
01:07:25,960 --> 01:07:29,440
Speaker 5: So at the tackle position, I'm surprised and this is

1357
01:07:29,480 --> 01:07:32,440
Speaker 5: from our friends at our lads, because we don't have

1358
01:07:32,440 --> 01:07:35,200
Speaker 5: an official depth chart. No NFL team does R lads

1359
01:07:35,240 --> 01:07:38,080
Speaker 5: has kind of a makeshift one. I feel like Tevin

1360
01:07:38,120 --> 01:07:41,520
Speaker 5: Jenkins can play tackle, right, Yeah, I feel like he

1361
01:07:41,560 --> 01:07:43,480
Speaker 5: should be in the mix in that room.

1362
01:07:43,840 --> 01:07:46,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm sure he could be. Maybe he'll maybe be

1363
01:07:46,200 --> 01:07:48,800
Speaker 2: like the swing guy who bounces from tackle to garden fine,

1364
01:07:49,000 --> 01:07:50,760
Speaker 2: kind of the swing tackle sniff. So yeah, he could

1365
01:07:50,800 --> 01:07:51,320
Speaker 2: be in the mix too.

1366
01:07:51,560 --> 01:07:54,200
Speaker 5: I like the depth. But again, like you said, I

1367
01:07:54,240 --> 01:07:56,640
Speaker 5: need Conkland to stay healthy. I need Dewan Jones to

1368
01:07:56,640 --> 01:08:00,080
Speaker 5: stay healthy, you know, and and Big Danos knows it.

1369
01:08:00,280 --> 01:08:00,640
Speaker 5: He knows.

1370
01:08:00,720 --> 01:08:02,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what he's here every day. I mean, we've

1371
01:08:02,400 --> 01:08:06,440
Speaker 2: seen every single day at number nine, the tight end room. Finally,

1372
01:08:07,040 --> 01:08:09,120
Speaker 2: this is our biggest difference. I had him at four overall,

1373
01:08:09,160 --> 01:08:09,960
Speaker 2: you have him at nine.

1374
01:08:10,360 --> 01:08:15,360
Speaker 5: I didn't see a lot. And Nadjoku struggled at times

1375
01:08:15,440 --> 01:08:15,880
Speaker 5: last year.

1376
01:08:17,320 --> 01:08:20,400
Speaker 2: Was that a product of I don't know, And that's

1377
01:08:20,600 --> 01:08:23,639
Speaker 2: part our offensive situation last year was such a tough spot.

1378
01:08:24,080 --> 01:08:28,120
Speaker 5: Yeah, I you know, I need Najoku. He's in a

1379
01:08:28,160 --> 01:08:31,599
Speaker 5: contract year. I need him to revert back to that.

1380
01:08:31,600 --> 01:08:33,320
Speaker 2: Pro Bowl form. Yeah, they need him.

1381
01:08:33,479 --> 01:08:35,880
Speaker 5: I mean next we talked about the running back room

1382
01:08:35,920 --> 01:08:38,479
Speaker 5: being important. I know what I'm gonna get from Jerry

1383
01:08:38,560 --> 01:08:43,920
Speaker 5: Judy Nidjoku has to be one of the dudes on offense. Yep,

1384
01:08:44,240 --> 01:08:47,120
Speaker 5: he's got to be a dude. There's no if ands

1385
01:08:47,200 --> 01:08:47,920
Speaker 5: or butts about it.

1386
01:08:48,160 --> 01:08:49,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I just.

1387
01:08:51,240 --> 01:08:56,280
Speaker 5: Whiteheart's fine Fannin. I love Harold Fannon. I think Harold

1388
01:08:56,280 --> 01:08:59,200
Speaker 5: Fannon's going to be fine. But that's it's a young

1389
01:08:59,280 --> 01:09:00,800
Speaker 5: room by Hei Najoku.

1390
01:09:01,760 --> 01:09:06,479
Speaker 2: That's why when I I think he'll bounce back much quicker,

1391
01:09:07,880 --> 01:09:09,519
Speaker 2: I think I think Chief's gonna have a big year.

1392
01:09:09,520 --> 01:09:11,120
Speaker 2: I think Fan is going to be a stud. But

1393
01:09:11,160 --> 01:09:15,040
Speaker 2: I do think I think it's fair to say beyond that.

1394
01:09:15,439 --> 01:09:16,760
Speaker 2: And that's why I mentioned that when I had him

1395
01:09:16,760 --> 01:09:19,120
Speaker 2: at four. It's basically based on the high end of it,

1396
01:09:19,200 --> 01:09:21,800
Speaker 2: but also the reality that and I mentioned this, I

1397
01:09:21,800 --> 01:09:23,439
Speaker 2: do think we wouldn't be surprised if we had another one.

1398
01:09:23,520 --> 01:09:24,960
Speaker 2: I think we're gonna play a lot of too tight end,

1399
01:09:25,439 --> 01:09:28,000
Speaker 2: so I think you probably want to add one more

1400
01:09:28,160 --> 01:09:29,000
Speaker 2: kind of in that mix.

1401
01:09:29,120 --> 01:09:32,479
Speaker 5: Yeah, and that's I think it's a numbers game as well. Yeah,

1402
01:09:32,560 --> 01:09:35,719
Speaker 5: So who did you have at number nine?

1403
01:09:36,200 --> 01:09:39,280
Speaker 2: I had o Tack ten. This is where I have

1404
01:09:39,320 --> 01:09:44,240
Speaker 2: safety safety at ten. Love obviously, love Delpit and and

1405
01:09:44,280 --> 01:09:47,560
Speaker 2: I think Ronnie's been really good and I bond it

1406
01:09:47,680 --> 01:09:50,160
Speaker 2: was so excited about the guys behind, So that gives

1407
01:09:50,160 --> 01:09:52,240
Speaker 2: you a little bit of hope. But we haven't really

1408
01:09:52,280 --> 01:09:56,160
Speaker 2: invested very bigly in that room now and so and

1409
01:09:56,200 --> 01:09:58,040
Speaker 2: again I think that they're fine. I just I need

1410
01:09:58,080 --> 01:09:59,680
Speaker 2: to see it. I'm show me State guys, so I

1411
01:09:59,720 --> 01:10:02,320
Speaker 2: need some of these guys in our uniforms running around.

1412
01:10:02,320 --> 01:10:03,439
Speaker 2: I need to see a little bit of a bounce

1413
01:10:03,439 --> 01:10:04,120
Speaker 2: back from Ronnie.

1414
01:10:04,160 --> 01:10:05,719
Speaker 5: I tackle at number ten.

1415
01:10:06,120 --> 01:10:08,400
Speaker 2: Probably for the same reasons that I had. I mean

1416
01:10:08,439 --> 01:10:10,520
Speaker 2: it's yep. And then wide receiver.

1417
01:10:12,120 --> 01:10:16,639
Speaker 5: Right now, your wide receivers are Jerry Judy, Cedric Tillman,

1418
01:10:17,520 --> 01:10:23,880
Speaker 5: Deontay Johnson, Jamari Thrash, Michael Woods, David Bell, and a

1419
01:10:24,040 --> 01:10:29,160
Speaker 5: host of others. Yeah, yeah, DeAndre Carter, who's a returner

1420
01:10:30,320 --> 01:10:34,240
Speaker 5: you know, more so in special teams. Yeah, you need it,

1421
01:10:34,280 --> 01:10:36,920
Speaker 5: as other guys have flashed here and there during Mini

1422
01:10:37,000 --> 01:10:38,200
Speaker 5: camp and OTA, but.

1423
01:10:38,479 --> 01:10:41,280
Speaker 2: You need This is the one room I think you'd

1424
01:10:41,360 --> 01:10:45,120
Speaker 2: need to add. I think you need to add.

1425
01:10:45,160 --> 01:10:47,120
Speaker 5: Would you have any interest in one of the three

1426
01:10:48,000 --> 01:10:50,200
Speaker 5: top one hundred free agents that are still out there?

1427
01:10:50,720 --> 01:10:51,280
Speaker 2: Do you have the list?

1428
01:10:51,320 --> 01:10:55,720
Speaker 5: Give me Amari Cooper, Keenan Allen, and Gabe Davis of

1429
01:10:55,760 --> 01:10:59,200
Speaker 5: the remaining well top one hundred free agent.

1430
01:10:59,240 --> 01:11:00,920
Speaker 2: I don't know. I still don't know what happened to

1431
01:11:01,000 --> 01:11:05,400
Speaker 2: Amari in Buffalo, and it was so strange. And I

1432
01:11:05,439 --> 01:11:07,519
Speaker 2: mean he struggled here last year too, at the beginning

1433
01:11:07,520 --> 01:11:10,160
Speaker 2: of the year. Yes, but he was electric with Flacco,

1434
01:11:10,520 --> 01:11:14,680
Speaker 2: electric and he was largely a good citizen here. I mean,

1435
01:11:14,680 --> 01:11:18,160
Speaker 2: he's a great citizen here. So you know, I what,

1436
01:11:18,280 --> 01:11:20,759
Speaker 2: I like to kick the tires, But I don't know everything.

1437
01:11:20,800 --> 01:11:22,680
Speaker 2: You know, who who knows what led to all of that?

1438
01:11:23,680 --> 01:11:29,760
Speaker 2: And I don't know, Like I am the greatest and

1439
01:11:29,840 --> 01:11:31,920
Speaker 2: they don't know. No, we were like, God, he's going

1440
01:11:31,960 --> 01:11:33,680
Speaker 2: to be the best receiver for the Bills. I mean,

1441
01:11:33,680 --> 01:11:37,160
Speaker 2: he was a fantasy football picked up for everybody. And

1442
01:11:37,400 --> 01:11:40,280
Speaker 2: so I would probably rate those Amari, Gabe Davis, Keenan

1443
01:11:40,320 --> 01:11:42,280
Speaker 2: Allen in that order would be by the way that

1444
01:11:42,320 --> 01:11:45,240
Speaker 2: I would do that, and hopefully the familiarity with with

1445
01:11:45,320 --> 01:11:48,120
Speaker 2: Flacco would help for help for Amari going forward. Speaking

1446
01:11:48,200 --> 01:11:52,200
Speaker 2: of our receivers, we'll take a look at the position

1447
01:11:52,280 --> 01:11:55,280
Speaker 2: groups around the league and where the Browns rank on

1448
01:11:55,439 --> 01:11:59,920
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1449
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1450
01:12:03,000 --> 01:12:05,840
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Speaker 2: Time for a little higher or lower. Hello, gibbe, Hi,

1468
01:13:08,960 --> 01:13:09,479
Speaker 2: look at this?

1469
01:13:10,160 --> 01:13:10,400
Speaker 7: Look?

1470
01:13:10,520 --> 01:13:15,360
Speaker 5: I mean, is it's getting wide open? I think everybody,

1471
01:13:15,720 --> 01:13:18,760
Speaker 5: by the way, everybody got to go home if you

1472
01:13:18,800 --> 01:13:19,480
Speaker 5: were outside.

1473
01:13:19,640 --> 01:13:23,479
Speaker 2: The next level is we've they're all gone.

1474
01:13:24,160 --> 01:13:27,000
Speaker 5: I mean, I get the footballs off, the lights are

1475
01:13:27,240 --> 01:13:30,479
Speaker 5: everybody else got to go. I literally just watched everybody

1476
01:13:30,479 --> 01:13:30,880
Speaker 5: else leave.

1477
01:13:30,920 --> 01:13:35,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, they're gone, man, lights are out, game over. That's it.

1478
01:13:36,080 --> 01:13:36,360
Speaker 5: Great?

1479
01:13:36,880 --> 01:13:39,240
Speaker 2: All right, that's where you stand by stuff.

1480
01:13:39,439 --> 01:13:42,439
Speaker 5: Circle the wagons, j Mac, We're out.

1481
01:13:43,200 --> 01:13:44,040
Speaker 8: Uh.

1482
01:13:44,120 --> 01:13:46,439
Speaker 5: You know we talked about this guy, Johnny Tuma the

1483
01:13:46,439 --> 01:13:46,800
Speaker 5: other day.

1484
01:13:46,840 --> 01:13:48,639
Speaker 2: Sure, yeah, yeah, yeah, he's ranks his position.

1485
01:13:49,080 --> 01:13:51,639
Speaker 5: I'm like, let's have some fun. The one that drew

1486
01:13:51,760 --> 01:13:54,000
Speaker 5: my attention to him to begin with was this one.

1487
01:13:54,200 --> 01:13:55,040
Speaker 5: The wide receiver.

1488
01:13:56,120 --> 01:13:56,960
Speaker 2: He ranked them all.

1489
01:13:57,160 --> 01:13:59,479
Speaker 5: All right, okay, do you want to start at number one?

1490
01:14:00,360 --> 01:14:01,920
Speaker 5: You want to start at the back, you want to

1491
01:14:02,000 --> 01:14:03,000
Speaker 5: start where we're ring?

1492
01:14:03,880 --> 01:14:08,120
Speaker 2: Well, I mean this is let me this, this is

1493
01:14:08,160 --> 01:14:10,720
Speaker 2: what I'm gonna do. This is how I'll do what

1494
01:14:10,880 --> 01:14:13,439
Speaker 2: I would do. Because this gets a little silly at

1495
01:14:13,439 --> 01:14:15,720
Speaker 2: the bottom, because you're you know, what is really the

1496
01:14:15,720 --> 01:14:19,200
Speaker 2: difference between some of these. If I were to give you,

1497
01:14:23,040 --> 01:14:26,520
Speaker 2: I think the best wide receiver group in football is Cincinnati.

1498
01:14:27,840 --> 01:14:32,800
Speaker 5: That would be my number one. My number two, well

1499
01:14:32,840 --> 01:14:35,280
Speaker 5: that's his number one, So great minds think a lot.

1500
01:14:35,400 --> 01:14:37,160
Speaker 2: I don't know. Well, we'll see, we'll see if we're

1501
01:14:37,200 --> 01:14:41,519
Speaker 2: great minds give it, we'll see. I think my number

1502
01:14:41,520 --> 01:14:47,639
Speaker 2: two would be Minnesota. I think I got a Minnesota

1503
01:14:47,720 --> 01:14:54,479
Speaker 2: number two. I think I would have Philly. Three. I

1504
01:14:54,520 --> 01:15:00,679
Speaker 2: think four. I would put the Rams, okay, and five.

1505
01:15:01,080 --> 01:15:02,800
Speaker 5: And you have not looked at this. He's not looked

1506
01:15:02,840 --> 01:15:03,080
Speaker 5: at this.

1507
01:15:03,200 --> 01:15:14,760
Speaker 2: No, I, in fact, you were riding on it upside down. Five, five, five.

1508
01:15:15,600 --> 01:15:21,479
Speaker 2: I think on five I might go, boy, Tampa Bay

1509
01:15:21,560 --> 01:15:24,960
Speaker 2: could be we had a mecha Buca to that group

1510
01:15:25,400 --> 01:15:27,600
Speaker 2: that might be a little too rich for their blood.

1511
01:15:28,040 --> 01:15:35,600
Speaker 2: Chicago at five, Detroit, Jamison Williams, Saint Brown. That's pretty good.

1512
01:15:38,680 --> 01:15:40,599
Speaker 2: Who did Dallas pick somebody up with CD?

1513
01:15:40,680 --> 01:15:40,800
Speaker 7: Oh?

1514
01:15:40,840 --> 01:15:46,639
Speaker 2: Yeah, Pickens? Pickens is with CD. There is Tyreek Hill

1515
01:15:46,680 --> 01:15:48,360
Speaker 2: still a dolphin? Is that known?

1516
01:15:48,439 --> 01:15:48,720
Speaker 7: All right?

1517
01:15:48,760 --> 01:15:49,880
Speaker 5: So I'm gonna go Miami five.

1518
01:15:50,160 --> 01:15:53,719
Speaker 2: Okay, assuming he bounced back, that'd be my top five.

1519
01:15:53,760 --> 01:15:54,559
Speaker 2: All right? How did I do?

1520
01:15:55,800 --> 01:15:56,479
Speaker 5: You got a couple?

1521
01:15:56,720 --> 01:15:57,680
Speaker 8: Okay?

1522
01:15:57,920 --> 01:16:00,880
Speaker 5: Number one? You got right the Bengals. According to this guy,

1523
01:16:00,960 --> 01:16:01,599
Speaker 5: I'm talking.

1524
01:16:01,400 --> 01:16:04,200
Speaker 2: To Ben Baby of ESPN this morning, and he said

1525
01:16:04,439 --> 01:16:07,120
Speaker 2: he's great. Dude, said Jermaine Burton had a hell of

1526
01:16:07,160 --> 01:16:10,479
Speaker 2: a month and that A big thing that happened was

1527
01:16:10,600 --> 01:16:13,160
Speaker 2: t Higgins seven a charity basketball game in his hometown.

1528
01:16:13,400 --> 01:16:16,440
Speaker 2: And Jermaine Burton is going. And so what that suggests

1529
01:16:16,520 --> 01:16:19,599
Speaker 2: is buy in from him. If they get him, remember

1530
01:16:19,640 --> 01:16:22,120
Speaker 2: he was a stud at Bama. If they get him

1531
01:16:22,640 --> 01:16:26,200
Speaker 2: to get him elevate and you have Higgins and chasing him,

1532
01:16:26,520 --> 01:16:29,720
Speaker 2: then that's second's eighth. If they get all that to.

1533
01:16:29,680 --> 01:16:35,760
Speaker 5: Happen, great, yeah, wonderful. Uh at number two, Okay, he's

1534
01:16:35,800 --> 01:16:40,120
Speaker 5: got the Rams, Okay, So I mean DeVante Adams pooka two.

1535
01:16:40,000 --> 01:16:43,280
Speaker 2: Two at well, Okay, I have them four okay.

1536
01:16:43,040 --> 01:16:45,160
Speaker 5: Cup, So like I said, you had two in.

1537
01:16:45,120 --> 01:16:47,559
Speaker 2: There, Okay, Oh well wait these are teams I talked to.

1538
01:16:47,640 --> 01:16:51,320
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah you did. Tampa Bay at number three. You

1539
01:16:51,400 --> 01:16:53,080
Speaker 5: forget they got Abuka.

1540
01:16:53,640 --> 01:16:55,920
Speaker 2: What I think he's forgetting is that Godwin had a

1541
01:16:55,920 --> 01:16:59,280
Speaker 2: big time injury. Yeah, and I think he's forgetting that

1542
01:16:59,360 --> 01:16:59,880
Speaker 2: part of it.

1543
01:17:00,320 --> 01:17:04,200
Speaker 5: And Evan god is one thousand yards but literally needed

1544
01:17:04,640 --> 01:17:05,920
Speaker 5: every throw at the end.

1545
01:17:06,240 --> 01:17:09,559
Speaker 2: I think Godwin's injury is why I didn't have them

1546
01:17:09,560 --> 01:17:10,400
Speaker 2: in my top five.

1547
01:17:10,439 --> 01:17:14,040
Speaker 5: But I can understand. I can understand that. I get

1548
01:17:14,080 --> 01:17:16,320
Speaker 5: that I would not have this team in my top five.

1549
01:17:16,360 --> 01:17:17,719
Speaker 5: He's got Chicago in there.

1550
01:17:17,920 --> 01:17:20,400
Speaker 2: So this is the one I talked about. These guys,

1551
01:17:20,400 --> 01:17:23,800
Speaker 2: So here's what you Here are your knowns. DJ Moore, Stud, Roma,

1552
01:17:23,840 --> 01:17:28,280
Speaker 2: Dunz stud. Luther Burden was the number one receiver in

1553
01:17:28,320 --> 01:17:30,320
Speaker 2: the country out of high school. He went to Missouri.

1554
01:17:30,920 --> 01:17:34,160
Speaker 2: He's a theft and they got him either top of

1555
01:17:34,200 --> 01:17:36,560
Speaker 2: the second or in the first round. He's going to

1556
01:17:36,600 --> 01:17:38,800
Speaker 2: be a nice player for them. So that's why I

1557
01:17:38,880 --> 01:17:40,920
Speaker 2: was talking about them potentially being in the mix of

1558
01:17:40,960 --> 01:17:44,400
Speaker 2: my top five. Is is that's a nice group. That's

1559
01:17:44,400 --> 01:17:46,160
Speaker 2: a nice group. I think he's got Minnesota too.

1560
01:17:46,200 --> 01:17:46,360
Speaker 7: Low.

1561
01:17:46,400 --> 01:17:49,120
Speaker 2: I had Minnesota two and he's got him five.

1562
01:17:49,360 --> 01:17:51,880
Speaker 5: Addison's a heck of a talent. I didn't realize they

1563
01:17:51,880 --> 01:17:53,120
Speaker 5: had Rondelle Moore in their room.

1564
01:17:53,320 --> 01:17:55,679
Speaker 2: He just keeps getting bounced around. He had those moments

1565
01:17:55,720 --> 01:17:58,840
Speaker 2: with Arizona, but nothing. Yeah, nothing consistent.

1566
01:17:59,320 --> 01:18:02,920
Speaker 5: Houston. He's got number six with Nico Collins and Christian Kirk.

1567
01:18:02,960 --> 01:18:03,840
Speaker 5: But it wasn't Nico.

1568
01:18:03,880 --> 01:18:04,439
Speaker 7: They got hurt.

1569
01:18:04,520 --> 01:18:06,280
Speaker 5: He was Yeah, he had a big injury.

1570
01:18:06,720 --> 01:18:09,559
Speaker 2: There's no scenario where Houston's receiving room is better than

1571
01:18:09,600 --> 01:18:13,360
Speaker 2: AJ Brown and DeVante Smith. There just isn't I mean Philly,

1572
01:18:13,439 --> 01:18:17,200
Speaker 2: that's not right. It's not right. Philly should be Philly's

1573
01:18:17,280 --> 01:18:22,320
Speaker 2: top five for sure, they should be ahead of Dallas. Yeah,

1574
01:18:22,400 --> 01:18:27,719
Speaker 2: Dallas is seventh, Philly's eighth. Yeah, Philly's Philly. Take Philly

1575
01:18:27,720 --> 01:18:28,920
Speaker 2: and put them where Chicago is.

1576
01:18:30,000 --> 01:18:33,400
Speaker 5: I get putting Jacksonville ninth, but I don't know how

1577
01:18:33,479 --> 01:18:35,840
Speaker 5: many snaps Travis Hunter is going to take it wide receiver.

1578
01:18:36,200 --> 01:18:38,960
Speaker 2: I was thinking about him in regard to what o'tani

1579
01:18:39,080 --> 01:18:42,080
Speaker 2: is doing doing like a rehab start in the major

1580
01:18:42,160 --> 01:18:46,280
Speaker 2: leagues and also dhing and leading off. The only thing

1581
01:18:46,360 --> 01:18:47,960
Speaker 2: that the only way he what he would have to

1582
01:18:48,000 --> 01:18:50,080
Speaker 2: do to do what o'tani is doing is he would

1583
01:18:50,120 --> 01:18:53,559
Speaker 2: have to be an all pro both ways, or be

1584
01:18:53,760 --> 01:18:57,679
Speaker 2: an all Pro corner and a Pro Bowl receiver. That's

1585
01:18:57,720 --> 01:18:59,360
Speaker 2: what he would have to do to do what o'tani

1586
01:18:59,439 --> 01:19:03,040
Speaker 2: is doing. I Photony can do it well healthy, but yeah,

1587
01:19:03,200 --> 01:19:04,720
Speaker 2: I'm with you on that. So he's got I had

1588
01:19:04,720 --> 01:19:08,640
Speaker 2: the Dolphins five. That was kind of I think this.

1589
01:19:08,800 --> 01:19:10,840
Speaker 2: I think I may be overvalued them. I can admit

1590
01:19:11,080 --> 01:19:14,960
Speaker 2: perhaps being wrong on that. One'll formidable, they are, but

1591
01:19:15,040 --> 01:19:17,040
Speaker 2: he'll really fell off a cliff last year. He's got

1592
01:19:17,040 --> 01:19:21,320
Speaker 2: all sorts of stuff going on. I maybe overvalued them

1593
01:19:21,320 --> 01:19:21,599
Speaker 2: a little.

1594
01:19:21,640 --> 01:19:23,840
Speaker 5: Maybe the Lions should be a little higher. I like

1595
01:19:23,880 --> 01:19:28,040
Speaker 5: the Lions a lot. Yeaheah. Uh, he's got the forty

1596
01:19:28,120 --> 01:19:32,679
Speaker 5: nine Ers twelve. I'm not sure that I'm totally buying

1597
01:19:32,720 --> 01:19:38,760
Speaker 5: in on that. Yeah, based on what Ricky piersaw, Juwan Jennings,

1598
01:19:38,800 --> 01:19:40,080
Speaker 5: Brandon ayuk.

1599
01:19:39,920 --> 01:19:42,840
Speaker 2: Ayuxi stud but yeah, I mean you need that's weight.

1600
01:19:42,960 --> 01:19:44,360
Speaker 2: I think that's too high for them.

1601
01:19:44,760 --> 01:19:45,679
Speaker 5: Yeah, for sure.

1602
01:19:46,200 --> 01:19:46,439
Speaker 2: Uh.

1603
01:19:47,120 --> 01:19:52,320
Speaker 5: The Chargers are thirteen, led by Lad McConkey and Trey Harris.

1604
01:19:52,920 --> 01:19:54,599
Speaker 5: They brought Mike Williams back.

1605
01:19:56,720 --> 01:19:57,000
Speaker 2: Again.

1606
01:19:57,080 --> 01:20:04,400
Speaker 5: The Chargers need more weapons. The Chiefs are fourteen with Rashi, Rice,

1607
01:20:04,640 --> 01:20:06,760
Speaker 5: Xavier Worthy, Hollywood Brown, Juju.

1608
01:20:06,520 --> 01:20:07,200
Speaker 1: Smith, Schuster.

1609
01:20:09,240 --> 01:20:13,439
Speaker 5: Okay, this is they need some guys do something there.

1610
01:20:13,640 --> 01:20:16,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean just in this fifteen to twenty range.

1611
01:20:16,120 --> 01:20:19,439
Speaker 2: Baltimore is better than that with Flowers and Bateman. I

1612
01:20:19,439 --> 01:20:20,680
Speaker 2: think Seattle's better than that.

1613
01:20:21,960 --> 01:20:22,160
Speaker 8: Yeah.

1614
01:20:22,200 --> 01:20:23,800
Speaker 5: They got Cooper Cup Yeah, I.

1615
01:20:23,800 --> 01:20:25,960
Speaker 2: Mean I think he's healthy. I think that'll be pretty good.

1616
01:20:26,280 --> 01:20:29,320
Speaker 2: Green Bay's got a thousand receivers. They do, they have

1617
01:20:29,360 --> 01:20:31,599
Speaker 2: a thousand. Yeah, they decided to draft them. They got

1618
01:20:31,640 --> 01:20:37,360
Speaker 2: so many receivers Washington at fifteen, that might be a

1619
01:20:37,400 --> 01:20:40,360
Speaker 2: little generous for them. Mclaurin's really good, but Deebo doesn't

1620
01:20:40,360 --> 01:20:42,640
Speaker 2: look like he's in great shape. And beyond that, I

1621
01:20:42,680 --> 01:20:44,200
Speaker 2: don't know exactly what that will look like. So it

1622
01:20:44,200 --> 01:20:48,360
Speaker 2: seems a little bit overvalued for them.

1623
01:20:48,560 --> 01:20:53,519
Speaker 5: So the back half on the back half, what stands out.

1624
01:20:55,680 --> 01:20:57,680
Speaker 2: Well, I mean, I think the Giants are better than

1625
01:20:58,360 --> 01:21:01,240
Speaker 2: they're showing here at twenty two. As is a top

1626
01:21:01,280 --> 01:21:04,479
Speaker 2: flight stud and they've got some guys Whoper were big

1627
01:21:04,520 --> 01:21:06,320
Speaker 2: time producers in college. They just need to go a

1628
01:21:06,320 --> 01:21:09,599
Speaker 2: little bit. Wandale Robinson, Jalen Hyatt just kind of need

1629
01:21:09,600 --> 01:21:11,040
Speaker 2: them to go a little bit. They still have Darius

1630
01:21:11,040 --> 01:21:15,559
Speaker 2: Slayton there as well. I'd probably have them a little higher. Boy,

1631
01:21:15,680 --> 01:21:18,800
Speaker 2: it gets pretty thin, man. Honestly though, after that, like

1632
01:21:20,280 --> 01:21:22,519
Speaker 2: the Bills at twenty six, tells you a little bit

1633
01:21:22,520 --> 01:21:26,800
Speaker 2: about how Josh Allen has so much consideration for MVP

1634
01:21:26,920 --> 01:21:30,280
Speaker 2: all the time because it's Khalios, Sha ke On Coleman,

1635
01:21:30,360 --> 01:21:31,000
Speaker 2: Josh Palmer.

1636
01:21:31,120 --> 01:21:33,960
Speaker 5: No, the Bills GM got all up tight when the

1637
01:21:34,040 --> 01:21:38,280
Speaker 5: radio station was asking questions. I don't think this rating's

1638
01:21:38,760 --> 01:21:40,200
Speaker 5: far off at twenty six.

1639
01:21:40,320 --> 01:21:41,000
Speaker 2: No, I don't either.

1640
01:21:41,080 --> 01:21:43,479
Speaker 5: Now what doesn't make sense to me? I mean the

1641
01:21:43,520 --> 01:21:47,519
Speaker 5: Browns are twenty eighth and probably show me state.

1642
01:21:47,640 --> 01:21:50,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's where we're at.

1643
01:21:51,240 --> 01:21:55,840
Speaker 5: How about Pittspuke at thirty with DK Metcalf, Now there's

1644
01:21:55,880 --> 01:21:59,120
Speaker 5: not a whole lot behind him, Scotty Miller BG alone.

1645
01:21:59,360 --> 01:22:04,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, I would assume. I assume that I think Roman

1646
01:22:04,400 --> 01:22:07,600
Speaker 2: Wilson could be good for them there. I assume that

1647
01:22:07,640 --> 01:22:09,639
Speaker 2: they're going to add to this room a little bit though,

1648
01:22:09,760 --> 01:22:10,479
Speaker 2: I do.

1649
01:22:11,720 --> 01:22:15,519
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean the Jets thirty one with Garrett Wilson.

1650
01:22:16,600 --> 01:22:17,599
Speaker 5: I mean, I tell you.

1651
01:22:17,560 --> 01:22:19,240
Speaker 2: How far they fell. I mean you remember how they

1652
01:22:19,280 --> 01:22:21,360
Speaker 2: were viewed a couple of years ago. Rogers first got there,

1653
01:22:21,400 --> 01:22:23,240
Speaker 2: like they had him and they they were kind of

1654
01:22:23,280 --> 01:22:25,200
Speaker 2: ready to go, and the New England at the bottom

1655
01:22:25,240 --> 01:22:26,479
Speaker 2: makes all the sense in the world.

1656
01:22:26,640 --> 01:22:29,679
Speaker 5: So who would you have before we go? Who would

1657
01:22:29,680 --> 01:22:32,600
Speaker 5: you have ranked higher? The Jets led by Wilson or

1658
01:22:32,640 --> 01:22:34,080
Speaker 5: the Saints led by a Lave.

1659
01:22:35,800 --> 01:22:38,760
Speaker 2: Jets, because I think Wilson is slightly better than a Lave.

1660
01:22:39,240 --> 01:22:41,280
Speaker 2: I mean the Saints have Donovan People's Jones. I mean,

1661
01:22:41,280 --> 01:22:44,439
Speaker 2: he's more than capable. These Brandon Cook's. Actually, that room's

1662
01:22:44,479 --> 01:22:47,800
Speaker 2: not terrible. The Saints room isn't terrible. I don't know,

1663
01:22:47,800 --> 01:22:51,160
Speaker 2: that's a good question. Lizard seems like he's cooked to me.

1664
01:22:51,720 --> 01:22:54,280
Speaker 2: Maybe the Saints are slightly better. That might be fair.

1665
01:22:56,800 --> 01:22:59,519
Speaker 2: The Patriots. I think these are the right teams. I

1666
01:22:59,560 --> 01:23:02,439
Speaker 2: think these the right teams, you know, kind of here

1667
01:23:02,479 --> 01:23:03,960
Speaker 2: and he's got the right teams kind of in this

1668
01:23:04,080 --> 01:23:05,840
Speaker 2: spot on this I think.

1669
01:23:05,720 --> 01:23:09,080
Speaker 5: The Raiders were too high. I mean outside Jacoby Myers,

1670
01:23:09,280 --> 01:23:10,800
Speaker 5: where does he have them twenty four?

1671
01:23:12,200 --> 01:23:15,639
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's might know anybody else on that room. No,

1672
01:23:15,760 --> 01:23:17,840
Speaker 2: that's yeah, that's too high for them. They shouldn't They

1673
01:23:17,880 --> 01:23:20,920
Speaker 2: wouldn't even be a final page. Yeah, they they should

1674
01:23:20,920 --> 01:23:22,760
Speaker 2: be for shoot because they don't even have they don't

1675
01:23:22,760 --> 01:23:26,120
Speaker 2: even have the top end like mart Wilson or DK exactly.

1676
01:23:26,760 --> 01:23:29,000
Speaker 2: So at least there's one guy, one weapon who that

1677
01:23:29,040 --> 01:23:31,919
Speaker 2: you can be feared on those on those type of rosters.

1678
01:23:32,840 --> 01:23:35,519
Speaker 2: All right, coming up next, Denzel Ward from the podium.

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Speaker 4: Feel like you've grown him as a leader and in

1690
01:24:30,080 --> 01:24:33,559
Speaker 4: all forms of leadership over the last couple of years.

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01:24:33,560 --> 01:24:36,880
Speaker 13: Man, I think I've grown as a leader tremendously and

1692
01:24:37,439 --> 01:24:39,799
Speaker 13: I take a lot of pride in it. Just definitely

1693
01:24:39,840 --> 01:24:41,519
Speaker 13: how I came in, I was looking to come in

1694
01:24:41,560 --> 01:24:42,719
Speaker 13: and be a leader for this team.

1695
01:24:42,760 --> 01:24:44,520
Speaker 8: But I mean as a rookie.

1696
01:24:44,240 --> 01:24:46,000
Speaker 13: When I came in, I was just trying to find

1697
01:24:46,000 --> 01:24:49,840
Speaker 13: my way and everything and probably wasn't as outspoken and

1698
01:24:49,840 --> 01:24:52,720
Speaker 13: and but I feel I just grown just definitely more

1699
01:24:52,800 --> 01:24:55,599
Speaker 13: vocal leader and uh but I felt I always showed

1700
01:24:55,640 --> 01:24:57,160
Speaker 13: I was a leader by my actions and the way

1701
01:24:57,200 --> 01:25:00,320
Speaker 13: I carried myself around a building and on a field.

1702
01:25:00,400 --> 01:25:02,360
Speaker 8: But I'm continuing to grow though.

1703
01:25:02,439 --> 01:25:05,200
Speaker 13: Just I'm just trying to uh be positive with everyone

1704
01:25:05,240 --> 01:25:07,639
Speaker 13: I come in contact with and help this team win

1705
01:25:07,680 --> 01:25:08,760
Speaker 13: and any way I can.

1706
01:25:08,920 --> 01:25:09,360
Speaker 7: You had the.

1707
01:25:09,479 --> 01:25:11,559
Speaker 2: Perfect attendant's last spring that should do that again?

1708
01:25:12,120 --> 01:25:13,799
Speaker 8: Yes, yes, vers important.

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01:25:14,400 --> 01:25:16,240
Speaker 13: Uh, it's just a set an example that's a part

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01:25:16,280 --> 01:25:18,559
Speaker 13: of being a great leader and certain example, uh for

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01:25:18,680 --> 01:25:21,799
Speaker 13: these guys. And I mean we're trying to build something special.

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01:25:22,800 --> 01:25:24,640
Speaker 13: A lot of people count us out, but you know

1713
01:25:24,840 --> 01:25:26,439
Speaker 13: the this is where it starts right here. So we

1714
01:25:26,479 --> 01:25:29,479
Speaker 13: gotta believe in ourselves first and just continue to come

1715
01:25:29,520 --> 01:25:30,960
Speaker 13: out here and work and be with the guys, with

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01:25:31,000 --> 01:25:33,840
Speaker 13: the coaches and everything, and uh, just get better each day.

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01:25:33,960 --> 01:25:35,719
Speaker 6: What makes you think this good?

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01:25:35,840 --> 01:25:37,880
Speaker 8: Okay? Do you think that leadership.

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01:25:37,640 --> 01:25:39,080
Speaker 14: Is even more important to you now?

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01:25:39,160 --> 01:25:39,400
Speaker 4: Knowing?

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01:25:39,520 --> 01:25:39,760
Speaker 1: Okay?

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01:25:39,880 --> 01:25:42,880
Speaker 14: QB, it's an open competition for you guys. Obviously Nick

1723
01:25:42,960 --> 01:25:45,040
Speaker 14: Chubb signs with you, ston Yestery leader is such a

1724
01:25:45,040 --> 01:25:48,320
Speaker 14: big leader. Does it become more important just knowing like

1725
01:25:48,400 --> 01:25:50,040
Speaker 14: the state you guys are in everything?

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01:25:50,200 --> 01:25:52,720
Speaker 13: Yeah, definitely. I mean leadership is is huge. You see

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01:25:52,720 --> 01:25:55,839
Speaker 13: it all across sports and and schools and their everything.

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01:25:55,960 --> 01:25:58,600
Speaker 13: Like you need leader, uh, great leadership on teams to

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01:25:58,720 --> 01:26:02,599
Speaker 13: be to be a great team ultimately, and just trying

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01:26:02,600 --> 01:26:03,400
Speaker 13: to play my role in that.

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01:26:04,320 --> 01:26:07,080
Speaker 8: You think this year is gonna be better than last year? Then,

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Speaker 8: So that's for.

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Speaker 13: Your team, really, I mean we take it. We're gonna

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01:26:10,160 --> 01:26:11,840
Speaker 13: take it a day at a time, game at a time,

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01:26:11,880 --> 01:26:14,320
Speaker 13: week at a time. So, I mean, we'll see at

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01:26:14,320 --> 01:26:15,920
Speaker 13: the end of the year how things play out. But

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01:26:16,200 --> 01:26:17,920
Speaker 13: as long as we continue to work and get better

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01:26:17,960 --> 01:26:21,040
Speaker 13: each day, I think we'll have positive results at the

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01:26:21,080 --> 01:26:21,519
Speaker 13: end of the year.

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01:26:21,760 --> 01:26:23,639
Speaker 6: Was last year your best year in your opinion?

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01:26:24,560 --> 01:26:26,800
Speaker 8: I do think your last year probably was my best year. Yeah,

1742
01:26:26,880 --> 01:26:29,599
Speaker 8: I had. I had some pretty good numbers, pretty good numbers,

1743
01:26:29,760 --> 01:26:30,280
Speaker 8: felt good.

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01:26:30,720 --> 01:26:31,160
Speaker 6: I'm sorry.

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01:26:31,240 --> 01:26:34,240
Speaker 7: Jim Schwortz last week said difference between probo the autro

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01:26:34,680 --> 01:26:35,360
Speaker 7: has turned into.

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01:26:35,240 --> 01:26:37,920
Speaker 8: Some of those PBUs and interceptions. How much is he

1748
01:26:38,000 --> 01:26:38,439
Speaker 8: stressed that?

1749
01:26:38,600 --> 01:26:40,160
Speaker 7: How much do you think about that?

1750
01:26:40,880 --> 01:26:41,040
Speaker 2: Yeah?

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01:26:41,040 --> 01:26:44,160
Speaker 13: I think about it a lot, Jim. He challenges me

1752
01:26:44,200 --> 01:26:47,000
Speaker 13: a lot, and I appreciate that. I'm trying to be great,

1753
01:26:47,160 --> 01:26:49,559
Speaker 13: greater than great, and he's pushing me every day to

1754
01:26:49,720 --> 01:26:53,280
Speaker 13: Like you said, pbu's are good, but those interceptions help

1755
01:26:53,400 --> 01:26:55,439
Speaker 13: helped change the game tremendously and helped the team win.

1756
01:26:55,600 --> 01:26:57,320
Speaker 13: So I got my hands on on a lot of

1757
01:26:57,320 --> 01:26:59,479
Speaker 13: balls last year, but being able to take that ball

1758
01:26:59,520 --> 01:27:03,160
Speaker 13: away and help was even more. Uh, it's just getting

1759
01:27:03,200 --> 01:27:05,639
Speaker 13: reps on task. So coming out here and and really

1760
01:27:05,640 --> 01:27:07,360
Speaker 13: just shifted my mindset. Like I know a lot of

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01:27:07,360 --> 01:27:09,639
Speaker 13: times I I just try to go for the dire disruption,

1762
01:27:09,840 --> 01:27:12,200
Speaker 13: like my man's not gonna catch the ball, but just

1763
01:27:12,240 --> 01:27:14,800
Speaker 13: getting focusing, getting two hands on the ball and going

1764
01:27:14,800 --> 01:27:17,960
Speaker 13: and taking away and then practicing on the drugs catches

1765
01:27:18,320 --> 01:27:19,519
Speaker 13: and uh, just keep it in my mind.

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01:27:19,680 --> 01:27:22,560
Speaker 14: You had a breath, bro, See to this QB competition

1767
01:27:22,960 --> 01:27:25,599
Speaker 14: so far? Just what have you seen from going against

1768
01:27:25,600 --> 01:27:27,000
Speaker 14: these guys?

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01:27:27,040 --> 01:27:28,360
Speaker 8: Yeah, all those guys look good.

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01:27:28,360 --> 01:27:30,000
Speaker 13: You know, I'm looking forward to picking them all off

1771
01:27:30,040 --> 01:27:33,320
Speaker 13: in practice, and uh, they all looking good competing. So

1772
01:27:33,400 --> 01:27:35,719
Speaker 13: I'm looking forward to see how it continues to play out.

1773
01:27:35,960 --> 01:27:39,200
Speaker 13: And best guy's gonna be out there against.

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01:27:38,920 --> 01:27:40,240
Speaker 2: Kenny and go ahead.

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01:27:40,640 --> 01:27:43,280
Speaker 8: So when you look at your phisition ball friends, what

1776
01:27:43,320 --> 01:27:44,720
Speaker 8: did you say, do you just got this year?

1777
01:27:44,800 --> 01:27:47,960
Speaker 2: Or who you happen to one together?

1778
01:27:48,120 --> 01:27:50,519
Speaker 13: And uh, yeah, just the camaraderie, like we all know

1779
01:27:50,600 --> 01:27:53,160
Speaker 13: each other and we all get along and and and

1780
01:27:53,280 --> 01:27:55,600
Speaker 13: love playing with one another, and uh, just all of

1781
01:27:55,640 --> 01:27:57,800
Speaker 13: our competitive mindset, like we all want to win, we

1782
01:27:57,840 --> 01:27:59,680
Speaker 13: all want to be great. Uh, we come out here,

1783
01:27:59,760 --> 01:28:02,400
Speaker 13: we put each other every day and we're just looking

1784
01:28:02,400 --> 01:28:04,000
Speaker 13: to be the best, to be the best corner group

1785
01:28:04,360 --> 01:28:07,679
Speaker 13: defensive group in the NFL, and that's our main goal

1786
01:28:07,760 --> 01:28:09,240
Speaker 13: and that's what we work towards.

1787
01:28:09,400 --> 01:28:11,760
Speaker 7: How do you think the two new veterans Sainty's fit

1788
01:28:12,040 --> 01:28:12,760
Speaker 7: in their back end?

1789
01:28:13,200 --> 01:28:13,439
Speaker 3: Yeah?

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01:28:13,479 --> 01:28:13,679
Speaker 8: Good.

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01:28:13,680 --> 01:28:15,800
Speaker 13: I mean we're still coming out here working, so guys

1792
01:28:15,800 --> 01:28:18,600
Speaker 13: are still learning the playbook and learning everything. So I

1793
01:28:18,600 --> 01:28:22,000
Speaker 13: think they gotta get more reps and everything. But looking

1794
01:28:22,000 --> 01:28:22,920
Speaker 13: good so far competing.

1795
01:28:22,960 --> 01:28:24,680
Speaker 10: I feel like Jim's still gonna go with as many

1796
01:28:24,720 --> 01:28:27,000
Speaker 10: three safety packages as he had in the pass.

1797
01:28:27,360 --> 01:28:28,080
Speaker 8: Yeah.

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01:28:28,120 --> 01:28:30,120
Speaker 13: Maybe maybe that that's something that I don't let them

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01:28:30,160 --> 01:28:32,600
Speaker 13: put put Whoever out there, who's ever out there I

1800
01:28:32,600 --> 01:28:33,559
Speaker 13: know is gonna be ready to go.

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01:28:33,800 --> 01:28:36,160
Speaker 14: I know that room looks different, the safety room in

1802
01:28:36,160 --> 01:28:37,840
Speaker 14: particularly like working with those guys.

1803
01:28:37,840 --> 01:28:40,599
Speaker 8: Seeing Ronnie step into a larger role.

1804
01:28:40,439 --> 01:28:41,760
Speaker 2: Here, it's like, what does that.

1805
01:28:41,720 --> 01:28:42,519
Speaker 8: Bee like so much?

1806
01:28:42,640 --> 01:28:42,800
Speaker 7: Oh?

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01:28:42,840 --> 01:28:45,280
Speaker 13: Yeah, Ronnie, he's a Buck guy, so you know he's

1808
01:28:45,280 --> 01:28:46,120
Speaker 13: gonna come in here ready.

1809
01:28:46,160 --> 01:28:47,759
Speaker 8: You know, we need more Buck guys on the team.

1810
01:28:47,840 --> 01:28:51,040
Speaker 13: But now Rockets, he's been good since he came on,

1811
01:28:51,240 --> 01:28:54,120
Speaker 13: just coming in, learning the playbooks, fast, being out there

1812
01:28:54,160 --> 01:28:57,719
Speaker 13: making plays, always thinking about his interception he had against

1813
01:28:57,720 --> 01:29:01,599
Speaker 13: the Jets for the playoffs and everything. But man, he's

1814
01:29:01,640 --> 01:29:03,000
Speaker 13: gonna be a good player for us, and he's gonna

1815
01:29:03,000 --> 01:29:03,599
Speaker 13: be good just with.

1816
01:29:03,600 --> 01:29:05,559
Speaker 14: The Ohio state connection with you guys, I mean, how

1817
01:29:05,600 --> 01:29:09,400
Speaker 14: cool is it to see his journey and going undrafted

1818
01:29:10,160 --> 01:29:11,479
Speaker 14: being potentially started out.

1819
01:29:11,680 --> 01:29:12,360
Speaker 8: Yeah, that's good.

1820
01:29:12,439 --> 01:29:14,040
Speaker 13: I mean that's just credit to the work that he's

1821
01:29:14,080 --> 01:29:17,360
Speaker 13: put in and uh, the Ohio state where he came from,

1822
01:29:17,360 --> 01:29:20,000
Speaker 13: and and and you know, his grind and mentality coming in.

1823
01:29:20,160 --> 01:29:22,960
Speaker 13: Regardless whether you get drafted or undrafted, Uh, you can

1824
01:29:23,000 --> 01:29:24,280
Speaker 13: still find a way to make a scene.

1825
01:29:24,360 --> 01:29:28,000
Speaker 2: You haven't predated feel much with John says with giving

1826
01:29:28,640 --> 01:29:30,240
Speaker 2: what are your observations about him?

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01:29:30,240 --> 01:29:32,840
Speaker 13: And you're defending man, Yeah, he's a good quarterback. Like

1828
01:29:32,880 --> 01:29:34,679
Speaker 13: I said, I'm looking forward to picking him off as well.

1829
01:29:35,160 --> 01:29:37,880
Speaker 13: And but he throws a good ball, you know they

1830
01:29:37,920 --> 01:29:40,719
Speaker 13: all do. And uh yeah, just looking forward to continue

1831
01:29:40,760 --> 01:29:42,160
Speaker 13: to get more reps with those guys.

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01:29:42,479 --> 01:29:44,080
Speaker 6: In terms of you.

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01:29:43,840 --> 01:29:46,760
Speaker 9: Talk about's break up to NEI reception you.

1834
01:29:46,720 --> 01:29:48,640
Speaker 8: Go for the table last year and figure.

1835
01:29:48,400 --> 01:29:50,080
Speaker 14: Out how many of theirs can be.

1836
01:29:51,400 --> 01:29:53,880
Speaker 13: Uh yeah, a lot of them were contested, but you

1837
01:29:53,920 --> 01:29:56,559
Speaker 13: know I'm good enough RockA. I could come and take

1838
01:29:56,640 --> 01:29:59,080
Speaker 13: those balls away, but just find a way to get

1839
01:29:59,080 --> 01:30:01,920
Speaker 13: two hands on the ball and finish the play. I said,

1840
01:30:01,960 --> 01:30:03,559
Speaker 13: got a lot of uh hands on the ball, but

1841
01:30:03,720 --> 01:30:05,640
Speaker 13: just I gotta finish, you know, that's the biggest thing.

1842
01:30:05,640 --> 01:30:07,880
Speaker 13: And i'm' that's gonna be my focus this year. And i'm'

1843
01:30:07,960 --> 01:30:09,599
Speaker 13: i'm'a take it away. I'm'a get it away this year.

1844
01:30:09,640 --> 01:30:11,800
Speaker 2: Anything that's sure that you're worked on in terms of

1845
01:30:12,360 --> 01:30:13,639
Speaker 2: getting both hands or finish.

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01:30:13,800 --> 01:30:16,280
Speaker 13: Uh, just drugs catching the ball and uh, I mean

1847
01:30:16,600 --> 01:30:18,559
Speaker 13: our coaches they do a good job of of setting

1848
01:30:18,680 --> 01:30:21,800
Speaker 13: up drill as far as the practice, getting interceptions and

1849
01:30:21,840 --> 01:30:23,000
Speaker 13: working through that contact.

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01:30:23,360 --> 01:30:25,120
Speaker 8: Uh, that's that you're gonna fill in the game and

1851
01:30:25,200 --> 01:30:26,200
Speaker 8: uh catching the ball in.

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01:30:26,320 --> 01:30:27,440
Speaker 6: That one Jose.

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01:30:29,040 --> 01:30:33,640
Speaker 2: Wod you start down percentage for you guys. I guess

1854
01:30:33,680 --> 01:30:34,760
Speaker 2: how important.

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01:30:34,400 --> 01:30:36,439
Speaker 6: Is half to for you come in here?

1856
01:30:36,800 --> 01:30:37,280
Speaker 8: Just how much of you?

1857
01:30:38,360 --> 01:30:40,920
Speaker 13: Yeah, we focus on it every day. I mean third

1858
01:30:40,920 --> 01:30:41,839
Speaker 13: down is huge.

1859
01:30:42,000 --> 01:30:42,120
Speaker 8: Uh.

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01:30:42,120 --> 01:30:43,960
Speaker 13: We gotta be able to get off the field. Uh

1861
01:30:44,080 --> 01:30:46,599
Speaker 13: come third down and uh that's our main focus. If

1862
01:30:46,600 --> 01:30:48,680
Speaker 13: we get off the field, got our offense back on there, Uh,

1863
01:30:48,720 --> 01:30:50,519
Speaker 13: we're gonna put ourselves in a good spot during the game.

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01:30:51,479 --> 01:30:53,760
Speaker 10: You wanna ask the specific nment that you want this pass.

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01:30:54,920 --> 01:30:57,040
Speaker 8: Say it again, killing hope that you.

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01:30:57,080 --> 01:30:58,519
Speaker 6: Do this pasts.

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Speaker 2: Best organisode, good recommend.

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Speaker 8: I sure, hope.

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01:31:04,880 --> 01:31:08,120
Speaker 13: So they said this the it's the best helmet and

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01:31:08,200 --> 01:31:10,320
Speaker 13: top helmet, so h yeah, I'm gonna be in that

1871
01:31:10,400 --> 01:31:11,360
Speaker 13: one and I'll yeah, I.

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01:31:11,400 --> 01:31:12,200
Speaker 8: Go out there and play.

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