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Speaker 1: The fallout from the debate this past week continues, and

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Speaker 2: After what was.

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Speaker 1: Described by Reuters as the president's quote shaky performance at

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Speaker 2: The other question is how does it work.

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Speaker 1: Reuters spoke with a senior fellow at the brookings In

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Speaker 1: and they asked the question that everyone's asking, how would

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Speaker 1: it work? So what options do the Democrats have? Let's

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Speaker 1: start with that the Democratic Party has had no real

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Speaker 2: As its presidential candidate.

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Speaker 1: He ran virtually unopposed for the party's presidential nomination. They

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Speaker 1: easiest path to replace Joe Biden. So you understand, Biden

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Speaker 2: There could be and we're hearing that.

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Speaker 2: Joe Biden is out.

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Speaker 1: So those are the real scenarios that are at play here.

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Speaker 1: It would make sense that Kamala Harris would be the nominee.

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Speaker 1: In that scenario, who would replace Joe Biden. Several candidates

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Speaker 1: It's basically like, you get a job working for it's

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Speaker 1: The US Constitution dictates the vice president become president if

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Speaker 2: What do I get? Because this is all about power.

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Speaker 2: You're not doing it for like service to your country.

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Speaker 2: Well, this is what would happen.

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Speaker 2: Once the convention's over, it's game over. Now.

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Speaker 2: Number one, the person would have to have the support.

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Speaker 1: The Democrat National Committee would hold its meeting in Washington,

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Speaker 1: But I bet if they're having a Democrat National Committee meeting,

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Speaker 1: Extremely, extremely, extremely tough job. That would be a tough

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna Now. Does that mean they're gonna vote for Trump?

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Speaker 1: By the way, for Donald Trump, this is so complicated

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Speaker 1: that his name doesn't even come up until forty minutes

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Speaker 1: into the conversation. Okay, that and Democrats know this, which

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Speaker 1: then brings me to my final play. There's a chance

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Speaker 1: that Joe Biden, they could say, let's just try to

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Speaker 1: get him elected, get across the finish line, let's try

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Speaker 1: to do this thing, and then after we elect him,

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Speaker 1: we'll force him to step down. Or the family may

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Speaker 1: say we'll step down now. Whether you believe them or not,

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Speaker 1: that's a different conversation. Okay, whether you believe.

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Speaker 2: Them or not, very very very very very very.

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Speaker 1: Very different conversation. You may not believe them, but that

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Speaker 1: could be their plan. Hey, we'll get him through, we'll

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Speaker 1: try to knock this out, and then maybe he'll resign

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Speaker 1: while in office and the vice president becomes the president.

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Speaker 1: Never underestimate how disgusting and vile these people in the

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Speaker 1: Democratic Party are. You also have to remember their socialists,

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Speaker 1: Communists and Marxists, so they don't really care about like

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Speaker 1: screwing people, Okay, including Joe Biden. And don't think for

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Speaker 1: a moment that Joe Biden doesn't know that either. There's

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Speaker 1: an article about just how bad this and it comes

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Speaker 1: from David Acceroti's mastermind and behind you know Obama campaign,

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Speaker 1: and it actual goes to the story says Biden's age

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Speaker 1: would be a liability if he runs in twenty twenty four.

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Speaker 1: David Axrod says, now, this is from two years ago.

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Speaker 1: On June eleventh, twenty twenty two, it says David Axrod,

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Speaker 1: the chief strategist for former President Barack Obama and in

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Speaker 1: him winning two presidential campaigns, told The New York Times

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Speaker 1: an interview that Biden President Biden's age would be a

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Speaker 1: liability if he runs for a second term in twenty

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Speaker 1: twenty four. In other words, he's like shooting the flare

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Speaker 1: up in the sky. Is a major player in the

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Speaker 1: Democratic Party saying, hey, watch out, this is again two

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Speaker 1: years ago. Why it matters nearing the midterm, some Democrats

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Speaker 1: are growing weary Biden seeking a second term. So this

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Speaker 1: is two years ago, especially given that former President Trump

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Speaker 1: may seek to return to the White House. The Times

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Speaker 1: reports Biden has said that he intends to run in

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Speaker 1: twenty twenty four, with Vice President Kamala Harris as his

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Speaker 1: running eight, if he remains in good health and if

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Speaker 1: his predecessor runs again. Which explains so much about this mentality.

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Speaker 1: There is a psychoticness to Joe Biden. There's also just

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Speaker 1: a straight up narcissistic lying aspect of Joe Biden. Joe Biden,

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Speaker 1: I think is running again because Donald Trump's running again,

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Speaker 1: and he wants this war like he wants it, folks,

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Speaker 1: like he wants this war, and he hates him, and

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Speaker 1: he's obsessed with him, and he wants to beat him,

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Speaker 1: and he believes that this is probably the best way

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Speaker 1: to pull that off. All right, So just understand that's

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Speaker 1: driving I think a major aspect of this conversation. But

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Speaker 1: let me also go back to the media for a moment.

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Speaker 1: The media has been lying to you. Okay, they've been

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Speaker 1: lying to you for a long time. The media has

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Speaker 1: the are the ones that have been saying to you over

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Speaker 1: and over again for at least the last couple of

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Speaker 1: years years. Hardcore, don't believe your lying eyes. Biden's brain

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Speaker 1: is sharper than ever. Biden, doesn't you know, Fritz out.

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Speaker 1: His brain doesn't shut down like we all witness the

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Speaker 1: other night during the debate.

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Speaker 2: They lied to you. We've got a montage.

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Speaker 4: Listen the truth and that few If you can't handle

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Speaker 4: the truth, this version of Biden is the best Biden.

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Speaker 5: Ever he knows so long as he was.

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Speaker 2: In fact, I think he's better than he's ever been.

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Speaker 3: President. Biden has a photographic memory. His understanding and mastery

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Speaker 3: of a complicated geopolitical situation remarkable.

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Speaker 6: He is sharp, intensely probing and detail oriented and focused.

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Speaker 5: Jackie, you hear rus Jackie, I think she was here.

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Speaker 1: I was sitting, you know, a two feet from him

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Speaker 1: across the.

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Speaker 2: Table, and he was, you know, intense. It's got trouble.

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Speaker 4: Walking sometimes, Yeah, so did that pr he wanted gd war.

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Speaker 2: But he's totally focus. He's very sharp.

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Speaker 4: They say he's sharp in meetings and so on.

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Speaker 6: Very lucid, little, very well done for him.

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Speaker 2: Biden's stately. He comes with gravitas.

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Speaker 6: There hasn't been, as far as I know, a single

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Speaker 6: claim that Biden made a mistake. Agism is an issue.

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Speaker 6: Americans have a rich history of holding people's physical characteristics

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Speaker 6: against them. Okay, you can ask African Americans.

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Speaker 4: He's older.

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Speaker 3: That doesn't mean that he is unfit.

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Speaker 6: And there's a lot of ages in.

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Speaker 3: There now, this age attack, this obsession by.

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Speaker 4: The right, Joe Biden may not be able to speak

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Speaker 4: for himself the way that he used to.

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Speaker 6: They want to to take on government if we get

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Speaker 6: out of line, which they're talking on again about, and

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Speaker 6: that's him lying around. I think people should be speaking

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Speaker 6: up for Joe Biden. Americans and reporters in the media

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Speaker 6: are just judging him by a physical appearance, and it's

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Speaker 6: for the unfair age is an ascent.

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Speaker 2: He showed exactly how with it he is.

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Speaker 3: The flip side of this coin is that he has

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Speaker 3: a tremendous amount of wisdom and experience.

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Speaker 6: Have you heard any concerns from anyone who has met

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Speaker 6: with President Biden about him seeming a little slower?

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Speaker 4: No more wild speculation from a bunch of people who

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Speaker 4: have probably never been in a room with Joe Biden

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Speaker 4: and certainly don't have medical degrees that I'm aware of.

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Speaker 3: If you don't get paid for performance to be president,

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Speaker 3: you don't. The job is not a job of endurance.

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Speaker 3: I don't see Donald Trump out by riding like Joe Biden.

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Speaker 4: It's the Hillary's email.

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Speaker 5: All they have is that he's a He can clear

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Speaker 5: a dementia bar and that's probably a win.

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Speaker 6: The media are not fair, and they're getting less and

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Speaker 6: less fair, and things are frightening.

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Speaker 3: You have.

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Speaker 2: Wall Street Journal running a horribly sourced piece saying that

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Speaker 2: Biden is unfited.

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Speaker 4: 'bus Wall Street General report about the president's acuity.

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Speaker 1: Shoddy story by the Wall Street Journal questioning Biden's mental fitness.

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Speaker 6: Wall Street Journal story had a lot of flaws, as

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Speaker 6: you said. But Sinclair, they didn't do any original reporting,

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Speaker 6: they didn't follow up, they didn't do any work.

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Speaker 5: Here the day is hersh gover poling, and still he

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Speaker 5: is not here with us, but he's still being held

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Speaker 5: by a moat.

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Speaker 4: But a huge part of the Mulla report talks about

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Speaker 4: Russian disinformation tactics, and one of the things this election

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Speaker 4: cycle is that Joe Biden is too old to lead,

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Speaker 4: and so everyone is seizing upon this and it is

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Speaker 4: a classic disinformation tactic. And I think the best thing

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Speaker 4: that we can do is to prepare the American people

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Speaker 4: for this false narrative.

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Speaker 1: I mean, these people are just flat out scumbags. They

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Speaker 1: are just scum bags, and they will sit there and

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Speaker 1: they will lie, and they will cover up, and they

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Speaker 1: will lie when the Democratic Party needs them to. Whether

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Speaker 1: it's the Steele dossier, whether it's the Hunter Biden laptop,

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Speaker 1: whether it's Russian collusion. They will lie and they will

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Speaker 1: look at you in your face and they will lie

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Speaker 1: to your face and they will tell you, no, no, it's

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Speaker 1: not raining outside, even though it's like a hurricane outside. Now, No, no,

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Speaker 1: it's sunny outside. Like they will carry water for this guy,

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Speaker 1: Joe Biden until they couldn't. And now they're worried about

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Speaker 1: losing power, and they're they're they're worried about losing their

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Speaker 1: access to power. So now they're saying, Okay, let's pick

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Speaker 1: the next king so we have access to power moving forward.

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Speaker 1: And they've known the entire time they're lying to you.

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Speaker 1: They've known it the entire time they've been lying to you.

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Speaker 1: They knew they were lying to you every second they

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Speaker 1: were telling you this crap. They knew that they were

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Speaker 1: full of it, and they were good with it. Folks,

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Speaker 1: they get off on it. This is like their pride

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Speaker 1: and joy picking and choosing who they believe should be

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Speaker 1: the president of the United States America and power brokering

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Speaker 1: it right like I mean, it's it is and you

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Speaker 1: play that and by the way, it should be played

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Speaker 1: over and over and over and over and over and

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Speaker 1: over and over and over and over again.

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Speaker 2: It should be.

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Speaker 5: It should be played over and over again, and the

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Speaker 5: reason why is because these scumbags deserve, in my opinion,

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Speaker 5: to be held accountable for this.

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Speaker 2: All right.

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