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Speaker 2: All right, it is Draft night here at Gillette Stadium,

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Speaker 2: Thursday night, night one of the Draft. It's Patriots Unfiltered,

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Speaker 2: our special draft show, always our favorite show every year

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Speaker 2: that we do. We're gonna be here all night. It's Evan,

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Speaker 2: it's Paul, it's me, it's Deuce, it's Matt Naboof. And

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Speaker 2: we've got Alex up in the draft party. We're gonna

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Speaker 2: go to her momentarily. But guys, we're finally here. We've

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Speaker 2: been talking about it, talking about it, and finally we

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Speaker 2: get to do it. It is Draft night. Patriots have

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Speaker 2: the fourth pick. As we all know, early predictions. Let's

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Speaker 2: go around the table.

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Speaker 5: Well, I gotta go with the flow. I think everybody's

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Speaker 5: saying right now, it's going to be Will Campbell. That's

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Speaker 5: what the hype and all the scuttle but is here

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Speaker 5: as we finally get to the draft. So I think

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Speaker 5: that sounds like the pick. It makes sense to me.

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Speaker 5: I know there are some concerns, but after Hunter and

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Speaker 5: about no matter who you pick, I think if it

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Speaker 6: Evan, I think this is the first time that I've

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Speaker 6: seen such consensus at a pick that's not like number

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Speaker 6: one overall. Right, it just feels like everybody has penciled

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Speaker 6: Will Campbell in as a Patriot at this point. I

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Speaker 6: think the only wrench that could possibly be thrown into

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Speaker 6: able to find a partner to trade down with. But

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Speaker 6: I'm gonna go with the masses because this is unprecedented

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Speaker 6: in my mind that one, two, three, and four are

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Speaker 7: Paul, Yeah, I'm with the boys on Will Campbell. But

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Speaker 7: I just want to start by saying how happy I

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Speaker 2: Well of a four five months say that I can

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Speaker 2: see Evan is excited. Look out, he's dressed so Natalie,

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Speaker 2: the two of you, I'm very disappointed, very disappointed you

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Speaker 2: wear more Patriots gear and a regular. You know, Tuesday,

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Speaker 2: it's a special night.

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Speaker 5: I thought I should dressed. I'll just to impress tomorrow

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Speaker 5: for look at that.

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Speaker 2: I went all out. I've got my Patriots baseball shirt on.

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Speaker 5: Wait where did that come from? Fred shop?

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Speaker 7: Was the central? I thought they played refs they playing

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Speaker 5: The tough lost International Forest products last.

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Speaker 2: Year playing softball playing right field. He had a good arm.

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Speaker 7: Yeah yeah, So I let's put it this way. I

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Speaker 7: think we all kind of feel like it's Will Campbell.

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Speaker 7: So let's throw out a trade scenario. Is there a

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Speaker 7: trade trade down scenario that you think has any realistic

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Speaker 2: Absolutely? I think I listen what I haven't given my

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Speaker 7: Oh okay, thank you.

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Speaker 2: My prediction is plan a trade down and then trade

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Speaker 7: We'll repeat my question then, So, assuming there's a trade

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Speaker 2: Chicago Chicago. Well that's the rumors, right yeah.

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Speaker 6: knows what's up down? I don't know anymore. If Chicago

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Speaker 5: To me, Fred like throughout this process, whenever I mess around,

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Speaker 2: Guys time No, I like I said, I think plan

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Speaker 2: I mean, what listen, when this draft process started, the

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Speaker 5: Don't you feel like it's what the Patriots offensive line needs.

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Speaker 5: I mean, I know we can debate about how good

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Speaker 2: I'm I'm sold. I'm like I said, whether it's btt PTT, what.

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Speaker 6: So what's that?

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Speaker 7: But this is this is interesting to me because you

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Speaker 2: Have to drop of a hat.

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Speaker 7: So that's what I'll do. I'll do what I go.

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Speaker 2: Let's go.

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Speaker 7: So I am I'll start by saying I am all

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Speaker 7: So I think that makes some sense, and I love

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Speaker 7: Evans's idea of getting like, say forty one to go

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Speaker 7: of losing Will Campbell. Yeah. Ten, which I'm okay with.

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Speaker 7: But it doesn't sound like you guys are the way

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Speaker 2: No I am, as long as when you trade back

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Speaker 7: Yeah. Okay. Well, so it's not about Will Campbell. It's

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Speaker 7: about a left town. And that's where I am. No, no, no, no, no.

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Speaker 7: At four it's Will Campbell. Freddy yea, yeah, it's Will Campbell.

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Speaker 7: I'm saying I would rather the trade because I would

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Speaker 7: fine with that. I am absolutely fine with it, because

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Speaker 7: I'm going to get a tackle, whether I get it

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Speaker 7: a possibility that Jets could take a tackle, the Raiders

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Speaker 7: losing out on your guy. You do. No chance, no

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Speaker 7: doubt about that. But now I have that other chip

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Speaker 7: that Evan talked about at forty one that allows me

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Speaker 7: It doesn't have to be Will Campbell for me. But

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Speaker 7: I do agree with you guys. I know technically you

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Speaker 7: And I really said it's.

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Speaker 5: Kind of got to be tonight. I think because the

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Speaker 6: Yeah. I mean there's five or six starting caliber tackles

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Speaker 6: But for a team that when you put up the

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Speaker 6: you look at this team right now, there's just a

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Speaker 6: The only way that's getting filled is if they take

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Speaker 2: All right, As we mentioned, there's a potty going on

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Speaker 2: a big draft party sponsored by I believe bud Light,

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Speaker 2: I'm not sure. Yeah, And our own Alex is up there.

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Speaker 2: So let's go to Alex and Alex give us the mood.

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Speaker 2: I don't see a party. I see you standing in

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Speaker 8: Well, listen, it's a beautiful night out. We wanted to

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Speaker 2: Okay, to the basement, So give me, give us a

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Speaker 2: little I'd love to see the insight. Can we spin

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Speaker 2: the camera and take a look I don't know.

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Speaker 6: With me.

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Speaker 9: And talk.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, it's like it's like she's doing like the network news. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I feel like I'm on HG TV.

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Speaker 10: Absolutely, let's let's look at the beautiful open concept there.

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Speaker 8: We got Tailaw and Lawyer Maloy right now on Stiage okay,

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Speaker 2: Oh wow, so there's two sections of the draft. Wow, okay,

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Speaker 2: Sounds good. So what's gonna happen Alex?

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Speaker 5: This second?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, go ahead.

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Speaker 8: I was just gonna say. The second the elevator doors open,

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Speaker 4: It's in toxic.

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Speaker 2: I love it. I love it. It clears up the sinuses.

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Speaker 2: This is allergy season. I need that. I need that

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Speaker 2: all right at exactly so you have a good time.

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Speaker 2: And what we're gonna do after the pick, we're going

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Speaker 8: Hopefully we'll find you guys some characters.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so go make some friends. I'm these people up,

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Speaker 2: and then when we make the pick, we'll come back

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Speaker 8: Sounds good talks here.

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Speaker 2: All right. That's Alex up at the butt light. Drafts

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Speaker 7: I like that was pumping pumping up there. I can

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Speaker 2: Do you remember the old Flintstone cartoon when he would

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Speaker 5: Yeah, he drove his feet with his cartoo. Interesting. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: So we're waiting for this first pick here. I think

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Speaker 7: Oh, I think I don't want to. I don't want

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Speaker 6: I don't want to.

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Speaker 7: You just said that you didn't know.

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Speaker 2: But I want to make sure people hear my back

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Speaker 6: This is as last minute as it is.

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Speaker 2: It is so I think where when we left you last,

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Speaker 2: these aren't. I think there's a lot of decent tight

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Speaker 2: But I need him to drop to day three. I

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Speaker 6: Yeah, he's right there on in the third or fourth

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Speaker 6: So if you're concerned about the level of competition, he

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Speaker 6: But he's a little undersized. He's kind of a tweeter

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Speaker 6: that a lot of people have for Harold Finns.

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Speaker 5: Okay, I was the most valuable player first time ever

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Speaker 5: for a tight end according to Arlett's.

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Speaker 2: Okay, my second tight end back of the envelope guys

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Speaker 2: I have him down as an athlete. This guy has

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Speaker 6: Yeah, you're kind of picking two of the same, similar

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Speaker 6: pretty good top gear and like you said, he's he's

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Speaker 6: So a later guy than Fannin obviously, but one of

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Speaker 2: All right, then linebacker, I've got three. These are tough.

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Speaker 2: These are you know, smaller guys. My first one Small

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Speaker 2: Mondon Jr. From Georgia six five. I can't read my

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Speaker 6: Yeah, so he's fantastic. I think, just a really great

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Speaker 6: there's a lot of really good things to like about him.

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Speaker 6: Off the ball, linebacker play cover the slot, in man coverage,

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Speaker 6: Jalen Walker's in a lot of ways.

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Speaker 2: Okay, Demetrius Knight Junior from South Carolina, another six one,

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Speaker 6: So you turn on the game against Alabama for Demetrius

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Speaker 6: get him. Nick Bolton from Kansas City is another guy

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Speaker 6: that I kind of saw him as you know, downhill player.

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Speaker 6: You want him attacking the line of scrimmage. You want

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Speaker 2: And then my final linebacker is Jack Kaiser out of

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Speaker 2: Notre Dame six one two one. Again, I've got him

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Speaker 7: Of inherent with that position. A lot of communication involved

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Speaker 6: Yeah, really technically sound, a good scraper at the second level.

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Speaker 6: He's gonna make a lot of tackles at this level

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Speaker 2: And I've got three defensive tackles. Some of these guys

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Speaker 2: I've got is uh yahaha Yahaya Black from Iowa six

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Speaker 1: Got we got rid of.

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Speaker 7: You know, he's there's a need for a space eating

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Speaker 2: So and he could go a little later. He's gettable.

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Speaker 2: Uh Tommy a king basodic Basodi from Maryland, Yeah, from

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Speaker 2: I don't know who that is, six three six. I've

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Speaker 2: teams guy probably well six three he's a little big force,

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Speaker 2: but you know, I think he's a raw talent's three

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Speaker 2: six three oh six yeah, yeah, no, yeah, so you

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Speaker 6: Yeah, Maryland has a couple of defensive linemen in this

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Speaker 6: early day three for one of whose name is escaping

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Speaker 6: me right now, but Phillips, Jordan Phillips, Yeah, so he's

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Speaker 6: all these outside zone teams nowadays, you had to be

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Speaker 2: And my final defensive lineman a little bit smaller than

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Speaker 2: the other guys, Tanka Hemingway out of South Carolina six four.

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Speaker 2: I have him down as versatile. You know at South Carolina,

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Speaker 2: he's got a lot of versatility.

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Speaker 5: He's built like a truck.

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Speaker 1: That's why.

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Speaker 5: That's why I literally when I was at the commine,

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Speaker 7: Okay, I was part of it. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: So that's my back of the people job. And I

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Speaker 2: back of the envelope and uh you know, when they

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Speaker 5: I just like, say, fred A, I liked that you

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Speaker 5: did it on a envelope, and I also like you

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Speaker 5: weren't picking guys that you're like, I can't even say

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Speaker 5: this guy's name. You were picking the player, like if

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Speaker 5: you didn't mind. You still went for it. Now you're

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Speaker 5: looking for quality for player.

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Speaker 6: Don't scout the back of the jersey or the helmet.

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Speaker 7: Right right, Well done, Frank, good job.

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Speaker 2: So that there you go, and I the success will

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Speaker 7: But there's just too many of them, true.

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Speaker 6: True, Mac McWilliams, back of the envelope for you just yeah,

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Speaker 6: but you can.

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Speaker 2: Have them, Matt McWilliams. Yeah, you see, okay.

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Speaker 6: Mac McWilliams all right, slock corner, good player.

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Speaker 2: Okay, there sounds good. Sounds good. All right, So we're

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Speaker 2: it starts at eight o'clock tennis. He's on the clock.

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Speaker 2: We all think cam Ward's a lock, right, Is that

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Speaker 2: is that true?

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Speaker 7: Yes, it sounds it. Yeah, it sounds like they've all

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00:20:08,760 --> 00:20:11,440
Speaker 7: but kind of signed off on it. I didn't. Mike

438
00:20:11,480 --> 00:20:15,520
Speaker 7: Berganzi actually said that they are not definitively not moving

439
00:20:15,520 --> 00:20:19,040
Speaker 7: the pick. He said, now I would assume, yeah, it's

440
00:20:19,040 --> 00:20:19,800
Speaker 7: for cam Ward.

441
00:20:19,920 --> 00:20:24,199
Speaker 2: Yeah, now, but the rumors are the Cleveland Cleveland is

442
00:20:24,240 --> 00:20:25,639
Speaker 2: shopping that second pick.

443
00:20:25,720 --> 00:20:29,160
Speaker 6: It sounds like right now that the mood has changed

444
00:20:29,200 --> 00:20:32,560
Speaker 6: from the Jaguars going back with Chicago to actually going

445
00:20:32,720 --> 00:20:36,320
Speaker 6: up with Cleveland, and that the Jaguars and the Browns

446
00:20:36,320 --> 00:20:40,119
Speaker 6: are going to swap picks, which I just find fascinating

447
00:20:40,160 --> 00:20:42,440
Speaker 6: from a Cleveland standpoint, Like you're you're going to pass

448
00:20:42,480 --> 00:20:45,680
Speaker 6: up Travis Hunter is what you're gonna do, right, which

449
00:20:45,720 --> 00:20:48,800
Speaker 6: I think is crazy just given that their GM literally

450
00:20:48,800 --> 00:20:51,760
Speaker 6: called him the showe Aotania football and now they're going

451
00:20:51,840 --> 00:20:54,119
Speaker 6: to decide to pass on him at two. Overall, it

452
00:20:54,160 --> 00:20:55,960
Speaker 6: better be worth worth it. You know, it better be

453
00:20:56,000 --> 00:20:57,080
Speaker 6: a haul that they're getting.

454
00:20:57,280 --> 00:21:01,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, So I would assume Jacksonville is going to take Hunter, right.

455
00:21:01,640 --> 00:21:03,719
Speaker 5: I would think so, yea, yeah, they're going to give

456
00:21:03,800 --> 00:21:05,640
Speaker 5: up to get them, And I mean it's a move

457
00:21:05,680 --> 00:21:07,280
Speaker 5: for them. It seems like they feel like they need

458
00:21:07,320 --> 00:21:10,000
Speaker 5: to make to get to another level. I know, Liam

459
00:21:10,040 --> 00:21:12,399
Speaker 5: Cullen being there, just I don't know. I just feel

460
00:21:12,400 --> 00:21:15,960
Speaker 5: like they're spinning their wheels always. It's never like a

461
00:21:16,200 --> 00:21:18,520
Speaker 5: direct plan. They blow it up, they start over. They

462
00:21:18,680 --> 00:21:20,000
Speaker 5: just kind of keep spinning their circles.

463
00:21:20,359 --> 00:21:23,520
Speaker 6: But we'll see teams. I just for Cleveland at some point,

464
00:21:23,600 --> 00:21:25,639
Speaker 6: you got to pick some players, right, Like, they just

465
00:21:25,680 --> 00:21:28,800
Speaker 6: seem like this team that is rudderless, like and now

466
00:21:28,800 --> 00:21:31,280
Speaker 6: all of a sudden you have this Heisman Trophy winner,

467
00:21:31,359 --> 00:21:35,000
Speaker 6: two way superstar, and that now you're still not good enough.

468
00:21:35,040 --> 00:21:35,960
Speaker 6: We're still trading down.

469
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Speaker 11: Like.

470
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Speaker 7: I think it's a great spot for those two teams.

471
00:21:38,160 --> 00:21:40,399
Speaker 7: I mean, obviously, the ideal spot would have been like

472
00:21:40,560 --> 00:21:43,240
Speaker 7: last year's draft with all those quarterback options, but that's

473
00:21:43,240 --> 00:21:45,440
Speaker 7: not the reality. So I think they're both in a

474
00:21:45,480 --> 00:21:47,359
Speaker 7: good spot where they can get really good players in

475
00:21:47,480 --> 00:21:51,359
Speaker 7: Hunter and Carter and take the second swing at trying

476
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Speaker 7: to get a developmental quarterback, because I don't think there's

477
00:21:54,240 --> 00:21:58,440
Speaker 7: a huge difference developmental wise between Sanders in Dart or

478
00:21:58,880 --> 00:22:01,560
Speaker 7: even Milrowe is as Evan talked about on our show

479
00:22:01,560 --> 00:22:05,040
Speaker 7: earlier this afternoon, and just his his raw skills. I

480
00:22:05,440 --> 00:22:07,959
Speaker 7: think Cleveland and the Giants are crazy for passing up

481
00:22:08,000 --> 00:22:10,040
Speaker 7: Hunter and Carter. If they do, it's not going to

482
00:22:10,080 --> 00:22:11,760
Speaker 7: get them in trouble for something they haven't done yet.

483
00:22:11,760 --> 00:22:12,440
Speaker 7: But that's great.

484
00:22:12,560 --> 00:22:14,520
Speaker 2: Speaking of getting in trouble in the Giants, do you

485
00:22:14,520 --> 00:22:17,800
Speaker 2: hear about what the rumor is that their general manager's

486
00:22:17,800 --> 00:22:23,919
Speaker 2: son did he had I think he had. He was

487
00:22:23,960 --> 00:22:28,800
Speaker 2: doing something on Dart and he had to delete it.

488
00:22:29,000 --> 00:22:32,160
Speaker 2: Like I forget the exact story, but he had put

489
00:22:32,200 --> 00:22:36,440
Speaker 2: stuff up on his personal like YouTube site about Dart

490
00:22:36,760 --> 00:22:38,760
Speaker 2: and then he was told to take it there.

491
00:22:38,840 --> 00:22:39,760
Speaker 5: This is Joe Shane's son.

492
00:22:40,840 --> 00:22:44,400
Speaker 2: Last year, get Daniels Joe Shane's son.

493
00:22:44,560 --> 00:22:46,960
Speaker 5: They should hire Joe Shane son to you didn't hear

494
00:22:47,000 --> 00:22:47,400
Speaker 5: about this?

495
00:22:47,480 --> 00:22:50,639
Speaker 6: The Giants thing is fascinating to me as well, because

496
00:22:50,680 --> 00:22:53,119
Speaker 6: I think there's a real divide and that in that

497
00:22:53,320 --> 00:22:55,800
Speaker 6: organization right now about what to do a quarterback like,

498
00:22:55,840 --> 00:22:58,960
Speaker 6: I think Brian Dable seems to really like Jackson Dart.

499
00:22:59,000 --> 00:23:01,160
Speaker 6: He wants to go, you know, up from the second

500
00:23:01,280 --> 00:23:03,240
Speaker 6: round into the back into the first round to get

501
00:23:03,320 --> 00:23:07,440
Speaker 6: Jackson Dart. I guess as that ownership is asking them

502
00:23:07,440 --> 00:23:11,199
Speaker 6: to please don't ten times before making the pick and

503
00:23:11,240 --> 00:23:13,880
Speaker 6: make sure that you're one hundred percent sure that Shador

504
00:23:13,960 --> 00:23:16,960
Speaker 6: Sanders is not going to be the next franchise quarterback,

505
00:23:17,040 --> 00:23:19,200
Speaker 6: you know, to come out of the draft. But both

506
00:23:19,240 --> 00:23:21,520
Speaker 6: those teams, I feel like are I thought I was

507
00:23:21,520 --> 00:23:23,280
Speaker 6: gonna give him a ton of credit and Paul's right,

508
00:23:23,320 --> 00:23:25,359
Speaker 6: we shouldn't, you know, get on them for doing something

509
00:23:25,400 --> 00:23:27,280
Speaker 6: wrong yet. But I was going to give him a

510
00:23:27,280 --> 00:23:29,160
Speaker 6: ton of credit for actually doing the right thing and

511
00:23:29,200 --> 00:23:31,320
Speaker 6: passing on the quarterbacks at the top of the draft.

512
00:23:31,480 --> 00:23:32,920
Speaker 6: And now both of them feel like they're going to

513
00:23:33,000 --> 00:23:34,520
Speaker 6: do the wrong thing because that's what they do.

514
00:23:34,600 --> 00:23:36,800
Speaker 5: Yeah, when do you feel like they settled in on

515
00:23:36,880 --> 00:23:39,960
Speaker 5: cam Ward being first overall? Because when this whole process started,

516
00:23:40,000 --> 00:23:42,200
Speaker 5: it felt like it was Carter and Hunter. I agree,

517
00:23:42,480 --> 00:23:45,199
Speaker 5: I agree, Now Ward's the guy, Like is that just

518
00:23:45,200 --> 00:23:46,159
Speaker 5: because they sold themselves?

519
00:23:46,280 --> 00:23:48,720
Speaker 7: I thought the combine finished and Wood was the number

520
00:23:48,760 --> 00:23:52,159
Speaker 7: one pick, But you guys would know better than I

521
00:23:52,320 --> 00:23:53,920
Speaker 7: on that, because you guys were there.

522
00:23:54,119 --> 00:23:57,400
Speaker 6: Yes, yeah, they They seem to have fallen in love

523
00:23:57,440 --> 00:23:59,679
Speaker 6: with him more and more as the process has gone along.

524
00:23:59,720 --> 00:24:01,800
Speaker 6: And I think when you're making a pick at quarterback

525
00:24:01,880 --> 00:24:03,760
Speaker 6: like that, a lot of it is also the guy

526
00:24:03,880 --> 00:24:05,880
Speaker 6: like the person. It's going to be the quarterback, it's

527
00:24:05,880 --> 00:24:07,960
Speaker 6: going to be your franchise, so you have to fall

528
00:24:08,000 --> 00:24:10,359
Speaker 6: in love with the person as well. And his pro

529
00:24:10,440 --> 00:24:13,520
Speaker 6: day apparently was very, very impressive. He didn't do much

530
00:24:13,520 --> 00:24:16,400
Speaker 6: at the combine to really sway any teams, didn't work

531
00:24:16,400 --> 00:24:19,480
Speaker 6: out or throw or anything like that. But from what

532
00:24:19,640 --> 00:24:22,760
Speaker 6: all the scuttle butt is is that they really fell

533
00:24:22,800 --> 00:24:26,040
Speaker 6: in love with the person and really are comfortable with

534
00:24:26,720 --> 00:24:30,080
Speaker 6: him all around. I think there's plenty of evidence on

535
00:24:30,160 --> 00:24:34,119
Speaker 6: tape of him making some really high level franchise quarterback throws.

536
00:24:34,880 --> 00:24:37,560
Speaker 6: Is maybe a little bit more inconsistent than the guys

537
00:24:37,640 --> 00:24:39,679
Speaker 6: last year. Yeah, but I think that there's a lot

538
00:24:39,720 --> 00:24:40,040
Speaker 6: to like that.

539
00:24:40,119 --> 00:24:45,560
Speaker 2: I mean, as the college season ended, my perspective, what

540
00:24:45,600 --> 00:24:49,280
Speaker 2: I was hearing was there was no consensus quarterback, and

541
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Speaker 2: if a quarterback went first, it would be Sanders. He

542
00:24:53,640 --> 00:24:57,159
Speaker 2: would be the first quarterback taken wherever he was taken,

543
00:24:57,240 --> 00:24:59,720
Speaker 2: not necessarily first overall, but he would be the first

544
00:24:59,760 --> 00:25:03,520
Speaker 2: quarquarterback off the board. And it wasn't until later that

545
00:25:03,640 --> 00:25:07,920
Speaker 2: cam Ward became the consensus first quarterback.

546
00:25:07,440 --> 00:25:10,920
Speaker 7: Off the back or cam Ward by transferring from Washington

547
00:25:10,920 --> 00:25:15,640
Speaker 7: State to Miami, put himself in that conversation. I don't

548
00:25:15,640 --> 00:25:17,959
Speaker 7: think people were talking about him going into the season

549
00:25:18,000 --> 00:25:21,560
Speaker 7: as being a potential top five, top ten pick, but

550
00:25:22,040 --> 00:25:25,200
Speaker 7: going from Washington State to Miami, which not the SEC

551
00:25:25,320 --> 00:25:29,280
Speaker 7: but still a much better level of football, his production

552
00:25:29,440 --> 00:25:31,240
Speaker 7: was off the charts. That's when I think he kind

553
00:25:31,240 --> 00:25:33,760
Speaker 7: of put himself in that mix. And like I said,

554
00:25:33,800 --> 00:25:35,760
Speaker 7: I thought at the combine he came up. Maybe he

555
00:25:35,880 --> 00:25:38,600
Speaker 7: just really impressed a lot of teams at the combine

556
00:25:38,640 --> 00:25:42,280
Speaker 7: with as Evan said, you sort of you sell yourself

557
00:25:42,320 --> 00:25:46,080
Speaker 7: on the guy as much as the player, because let's

558
00:25:46,080 --> 00:25:48,879
Speaker 7: face it, the players all have ability, but at that position,

559
00:25:48,960 --> 00:25:51,560
Speaker 7: it's so important to have everything else too. Maybe they

560
00:25:52,280 --> 00:25:55,120
Speaker 7: were all convinced that he has what it takes off

561
00:25:55,119 --> 00:25:56,680
Speaker 7: the field to be the leader in the face of

562
00:25:56,720 --> 00:25:57,359
Speaker 7: the franchise.

563
00:25:57,680 --> 00:25:59,680
Speaker 5: See that, to me is why I think should Or

564
00:25:59,680 --> 00:26:01,639
Speaker 5: Sanders is going to go in the top fifteen tonight.

565
00:26:01,680 --> 00:26:04,440
Speaker 5: I just think that he's going to make teams believe

566
00:26:04,560 --> 00:26:05,000
Speaker 5: so funny.

567
00:26:05,000 --> 00:26:07,800
Speaker 7: That's why I think he's I don't think he exudes

568
00:26:07,920 --> 00:26:09,280
Speaker 7: leader in the face of the franchise.

569
00:26:09,800 --> 00:26:15,679
Speaker 2: What you hear what that GM said about him, that he's.

570
00:26:16,520 --> 00:26:18,159
Speaker 7: The worst interview he's ever had.

571
00:26:18,320 --> 00:26:20,280
Speaker 2: A formal interview, the worst he's ever had.

572
00:26:20,359 --> 00:26:23,560
Speaker 5: I mean, I'll, yeah, I like, I'll give teams a

573
00:26:23,560 --> 00:26:25,359
Speaker 5: lot of credit if they if that's if that's the

574
00:26:25,440 --> 00:26:28,960
Speaker 5: case and they don't take him early tonight. I just

575
00:26:28,960 --> 00:26:31,600
Speaker 5: think so many teams operating from a position to scared.

576
00:26:31,920 --> 00:26:34,040
Speaker 5: And I'm on your side, Paul, like I view it

577
00:26:34,040 --> 00:26:36,400
Speaker 5: the same way. But I just think that when guys

578
00:26:36,440 --> 00:26:38,640
Speaker 5: come in with so much confidence, there's always a group

579
00:26:38,680 --> 00:26:40,000
Speaker 5: of people who are going to buy it and who

580
00:26:40,040 --> 00:26:42,199
Speaker 5: are going to say he must know something, like he

581
00:26:42,359 --> 00:26:44,159
Speaker 5: just has something about him. I don't know what it is.

582
00:26:44,520 --> 00:26:47,920
Speaker 5: And I just I think that that confidence. I've seen

583
00:26:47,920 --> 00:26:50,160
Speaker 5: it so many times where people have so much self

584
00:26:50,160 --> 00:26:53,480
Speaker 5: confidence in what they're doing, even if they're selling total bs,

585
00:26:53,800 --> 00:26:55,959
Speaker 5: that people out there, there are people out there desperate

586
00:26:56,040 --> 00:26:58,520
Speaker 5: enough to buy it. And we'll see tonight if people

587
00:26:58,560 --> 00:27:00,200
Speaker 5: do see through it. And like I kind of to

588
00:27:00,240 --> 00:27:01,560
Speaker 5: do and I don't feel like it's real.

589
00:27:02,160 --> 00:27:04,360
Speaker 2: But you got to combine that with the tape though.

590
00:27:04,520 --> 00:27:07,119
Speaker 7: Yeah, the one thing I want to give Sanders a

591
00:27:07,119 --> 00:27:09,840
Speaker 7: little bit of an out forward that I don't know

592
00:27:10,640 --> 00:27:13,000
Speaker 7: is how much of the things that I You know,

593
00:27:13,119 --> 00:27:15,439
Speaker 7: this is not about me, but I'm just saying from

594
00:27:15,480 --> 00:27:17,320
Speaker 7: my perspective, how much of the things that I don't

595
00:27:17,359 --> 00:27:20,280
Speaker 7: like about him is holding the ball too long, running

596
00:27:20,280 --> 00:27:24,639
Speaker 7: around kind of aimlessly not necessarily, Like how much of

597
00:27:24,640 --> 00:27:27,679
Speaker 7: that is related to his personnel? Like could he be

598
00:27:27,680 --> 00:27:31,359
Speaker 7: better in a structured environment with with with a structured offense?

599
00:27:31,440 --> 00:27:33,359
Speaker 7: Like does he have the ability to get the ball

600
00:27:33,480 --> 00:27:38,399
Speaker 7: on timing back footballs out accuracy? Maybe he's better in

601
00:27:38,560 --> 00:27:41,920
Speaker 7: a better offense, and maybe he does have more ability

602
00:27:41,960 --> 00:27:43,840
Speaker 7: that I'm giving him credit for. I don't see the

603
00:27:43,840 --> 00:27:47,280
Speaker 7: physical skills when I watch him, and that's why I

604
00:27:47,280 --> 00:27:49,400
Speaker 7: would be passing on him and seeing if I could

605
00:27:49,400 --> 00:27:50,879
Speaker 7: get him in the second round if I were the

606
00:27:50,880 --> 00:27:53,879
Speaker 7: Giants or the Browns. But maybe I'm not giving him

607
00:27:53,960 --> 00:27:56,520
Speaker 7: enough credit. Maybe that's because of poor line play and

608
00:27:56,560 --> 00:27:57,760
Speaker 7: all the other things that go with it.

609
00:27:57,760 --> 00:28:01,320
Speaker 6: At Colorado, it's a it's a gimmicky offense at Colorados.

610
00:28:01,359 --> 00:28:03,760
Speaker 6: There's not a ton of like NFL style dropbacks on

611
00:28:03,800 --> 00:28:06,239
Speaker 6: his tape in general, so you really are dealing with

612
00:28:06,280 --> 00:28:09,760
Speaker 6: a smaller sample size of that kind of stuff. I

613
00:28:09,840 --> 00:28:12,240
Speaker 6: think the two things that that teams are concerned about

614
00:28:12,480 --> 00:28:16,359
Speaker 6: with Sanders one his athleticism in and out of the

615
00:28:16,400 --> 00:28:18,840
Speaker 6: pocket to escape the rush. Like it just he doesn't

616
00:28:18,880 --> 00:28:23,439
Speaker 6: really have a ton of a you know, athleticism, sudden movement,

617
00:28:23,520 --> 00:28:27,280
Speaker 6: you know, that kind of stuff to elude sacks and

618
00:28:27,320 --> 00:28:29,320
Speaker 6: to get out of the pocket and make things happen.

619
00:28:29,680 --> 00:28:32,640
Speaker 6: There's also, you know, from a real quarterback junkie standpoint,

620
00:28:33,160 --> 00:28:35,560
Speaker 6: some concerns about his mechanics and the way that he

621
00:28:35,640 --> 00:28:38,680
Speaker 6: throws the football from a rotational standpoint that a lot

622
00:28:38,720 --> 00:28:40,400
Speaker 6: of people think that he's going to have to kind

623
00:28:40,400 --> 00:28:42,880
Speaker 6: of rework the way that he throws at the ball,

624
00:28:43,120 --> 00:28:45,600
Speaker 6: you know, rotating around the axis and stuff like that,

625
00:28:46,080 --> 00:28:49,360
Speaker 6: and and that that can be a real deal breaker.

626
00:28:49,440 --> 00:28:50,719
Speaker 6: You know that he might not be able to do that.

627
00:28:50,800 --> 00:28:54,240
Speaker 2: Well, we're about a minute away from Tennessee being on

628
00:28:54,280 --> 00:28:58,040
Speaker 2: the clock around seven o'clock. Adam Schefter tweeted this out.

629
00:28:58,040 --> 00:28:59,920
Speaker 2: I don't know if you guys saw it. He says.

630
00:29:00,000 --> 00:29:03,520
Speaker 2: When assessing how the top ten picks tonight will unfold,

631
00:29:04,160 --> 00:29:10,080
Speaker 2: one well placed source said, expect explosives. So I think,

632
00:29:10,160 --> 00:29:12,640
Speaker 2: you know, there's there's been a lot of talk. There

633
00:29:12,720 --> 00:29:16,280
Speaker 2: hasn't been a first round trade yet in this draft.

634
00:29:16,640 --> 00:29:18,560
Speaker 2: I think that's gonna change in a big way.

635
00:29:18,640 --> 00:29:20,680
Speaker 7: Do you think that explosives means like a lot of

636
00:29:20,840 --> 00:29:22,680
Speaker 7: skilled position players going in the top ten.

637
00:29:22,800 --> 00:29:25,760
Speaker 6: That's how I took it because I kind of felt

638
00:29:25,800 --> 00:29:28,080
Speaker 6: that way for a while that maybe there would be

639
00:29:28,240 --> 00:29:29,560
Speaker 6: a significant.

640
00:29:29,040 --> 00:29:33,760
Speaker 7: Maybe like Travis Hunter, Ashton, gent Y, Tyler, Warren, Tep, McMillan,

641
00:29:33,840 --> 00:29:38,360
Speaker 7: Tech McMillan, maybe Colston Loveland, Matthew Golden. Matthew Golden. Yeah,

642
00:29:38,480 --> 00:29:40,280
Speaker 7: is that what he's talking about or is he talking

643
00:29:40,280 --> 00:29:42,520
Speaker 7: about like unexpect like explosive. I thought he was going

644
00:29:42,600 --> 00:29:45,480
Speaker 7: to say expect the unexpected, but said explosives.

645
00:29:45,560 --> 00:29:47,400
Speaker 5: It's unclear what it exactly means.

646
00:29:47,400 --> 00:29:50,200
Speaker 7: But I mean, I see it as a way, but

647
00:29:50,280 --> 00:29:54,480
Speaker 7: I mean, I'm not making fun of Schefter. That's why

648
00:29:54,520 --> 00:29:58,239
Speaker 7: he's that's why he's good. But that's like, let it

649
00:29:58,240 --> 00:30:01,200
Speaker 7: be open to the interpretation, you know, like the guy

650
00:30:01,240 --> 00:30:02,760
Speaker 7: who's consuming it could mean a lot of I.

651
00:30:02,720 --> 00:30:05,040
Speaker 2: Guess in a draft like this, maybe if you've got

652
00:30:05,040 --> 00:30:07,320
Speaker 2: to swing, swing big and take a chance on the

653
00:30:07,360 --> 00:30:10,560
Speaker 2: skill position player, and you know, if it doesn't work out,

654
00:30:10,680 --> 00:30:12,000
Speaker 2: well you took a shot.

655
00:30:12,120 --> 00:30:12,520
Speaker 7: Yeah.

656
00:30:12,600 --> 00:30:14,560
Speaker 5: I think that's part of the I don't know if

657
00:30:14,560 --> 00:30:18,520
Speaker 5: the word is the problem, but there's so much similarity

658
00:30:18,600 --> 00:30:21,360
Speaker 5: in the middle of this first round, into second round,

659
00:30:21,360 --> 00:30:23,760
Speaker 5: and then on into the second day that do you

660
00:30:23,880 --> 00:30:25,560
Speaker 5: really fall in love with any of these players that

661
00:30:25,600 --> 00:30:27,160
Speaker 5: are from ten to thirty five? I think you could

662
00:30:27,200 --> 00:30:29,719
Speaker 5: probably be talked off the spot on just about all

663
00:30:29,760 --> 00:30:32,320
Speaker 5: of them. So maybe teams are saying that they're just, look,

664
00:30:32,400 --> 00:30:34,640
Speaker 5: we don't love love any of these guys in the middle.

665
00:30:34,920 --> 00:30:37,000
Speaker 5: Let's package our two picks, go go get a guy

666
00:30:37,040 --> 00:30:39,000
Speaker 5: that we really do love and that we think will

667
00:30:39,040 --> 00:30:41,400
Speaker 5: actually move the needle instead of Yeah. I mean, I've

668
00:30:41,440 --> 00:30:42,960
Speaker 5: heard a lot of people talk about it today that

669
00:30:43,040 --> 00:30:45,160
Speaker 5: this is a solid draft, you know. I mean, we

670
00:30:45,240 --> 00:30:47,040
Speaker 5: talked about it too. I think I've had a great

671
00:30:47,080 --> 00:30:48,840
Speaker 5: way of putting it. This is a starter draft. It's

672
00:30:48,840 --> 00:30:49,880
Speaker 5: not a superstar draft.

673
00:30:50,680 --> 00:30:51,960
Speaker 7: What is it kind of draft?

674
00:30:52,320 --> 00:30:55,440
Speaker 2: It's a starter draft blue clothes, Well, it's a blue

675
00:30:55,520 --> 00:30:56,840
Speaker 2: qual college draft.

676
00:30:57,000 --> 00:31:05,479
Speaker 12: Yeah, Yeah, Jeff for us, Evan, don't let them get

677
00:31:05,520 --> 00:31:07,840
Speaker 12: your dressed for the job, you know what I mean.

678
00:31:08,040 --> 00:31:11,880
Speaker 2: You know, any players from Sternford, you dress how you

679
00:31:11,920 --> 00:31:14,840
Speaker 2: feel and you're excited. These guys, I don't know so much.

680
00:31:16,120 --> 00:31:20,080
Speaker 2: We have a uh doctor mc cartoon.

681
00:31:19,720 --> 00:31:23,280
Speaker 6: I mean, make much sense, Like my cold strange should

682
00:31:23,280 --> 00:31:24,200
Speaker 6: probably be with me.

683
00:31:25,160 --> 00:31:28,560
Speaker 7: You know, yeah, right, you know that's all right, Dawes,

684
00:31:28,880 --> 00:31:29,560
Speaker 7: you've done better.

685
00:31:30,440 --> 00:31:32,840
Speaker 2: I uh, well you got you got Evan with the

686
00:31:32,880 --> 00:31:33,760
Speaker 2: mono brow though.

687
00:31:33,880 --> 00:31:35,560
Speaker 6: Yeah, I don't know what's.

688
00:31:35,400 --> 00:31:36,040
Speaker 2: Going on there.

689
00:31:37,440 --> 00:31:39,080
Speaker 7: I just wonder, you know, it would have been funny

690
00:31:39,080 --> 00:31:44,280
Speaker 7: if you put yeah, it's good Lombo.

691
00:31:45,200 --> 00:31:47,440
Speaker 6: There's just so much talent on the on the defensive

692
00:31:47,440 --> 00:31:49,040
Speaker 6: side of the ball in this draft, and the edge

693
00:31:49,120 --> 00:31:51,600
Speaker 6: rusher talent. Like I just wonder if a lot of

694
00:31:51,600 --> 00:31:53,840
Speaker 6: teams are going to ask themselves, do we really need

695
00:31:53,880 --> 00:31:57,320
Speaker 6: to take Jalen Walker, Michael Williams or one of these

696
00:31:57,320 --> 00:31:59,800
Speaker 6: guys in the top ten when on Day two there's

697
00:31:59,840 --> 00:32:02,280
Speaker 6: good to be a lutany of guys that are also

698
00:32:02,360 --> 00:32:04,760
Speaker 6: going to be available that we can just take and

699
00:32:04,800 --> 00:32:06,960
Speaker 6: play the same position. And I you know the same

700
00:32:06,960 --> 00:32:09,320
Speaker 6: thing as running back, right, It's kind of the same

701
00:32:09,640 --> 00:32:11,880
Speaker 6: sort of deal. There as well. And so when you

702
00:32:11,920 --> 00:32:14,480
Speaker 6: look at the skill position players, the receivers, the tight

703
00:32:14,560 --> 00:32:16,640
Speaker 6: ends that even you know go to the line and

704
00:32:16,680 --> 00:32:18,760
Speaker 6: go to left tackle, like, those are the spots where

705
00:32:18,800 --> 00:32:21,160
Speaker 6: there isn't as much depth and a draft like this.

706
00:32:21,360 --> 00:32:23,440
Speaker 6: So if you're one of these teams in the top

707
00:32:23,480 --> 00:32:27,120
Speaker 6: ten that really wants a wide receiver, are you taking

708
00:32:27,160 --> 00:32:30,880
Speaker 6: Ted McMillan and waiting till Day two to draft Jack

709
00:32:30,960 --> 00:32:33,640
Speaker 6: Betch or Jaden Higgins or you know, like, what are

710
00:32:33,680 --> 00:32:36,200
Speaker 6: you gonna do at that spot if you don't take

711
00:32:36,280 --> 00:32:37,240
Speaker 6: tech in the top ten.

712
00:32:37,360 --> 00:32:38,880
Speaker 5: Yeah, that's why it's just surprising to me. I can

713
00:32:39,000 --> 00:32:41,560
Speaker 5: understand teams wanting to trade out for Carter Hunter. After that,

714
00:32:41,640 --> 00:32:43,880
Speaker 5: it's it's hard to see a team really like I

715
00:32:43,920 --> 00:32:44,280
Speaker 5: gotta go.

716
00:32:44,520 --> 00:32:47,400
Speaker 7: That's why I'm okay with the Will Campbell plan instead

717
00:32:47,400 --> 00:32:49,760
Speaker 7: of Jalen Walker, because I really like Jalen Walker and

718
00:32:49,800 --> 00:32:51,280
Speaker 7: I'd like to take a shot at him. But I

719
00:32:51,280 --> 00:32:54,480
Speaker 7: think you guys have sort of convinced me that the

720
00:32:54,560 --> 00:32:57,640
Speaker 7: difference between Walker and someone you could get twenty to

721
00:32:57,720 --> 00:33:00,560
Speaker 7: thirty picks later at the same position probably isn't great.

722
00:33:00,640 --> 00:33:02,560
Speaker 7: I do think there's a I don't I don't think

723
00:33:02,560 --> 00:33:04,440
Speaker 7: there's a lot of tackles in this draft. I do

724
00:33:04,480 --> 00:33:06,520
Speaker 7: think there are a lot of edge guys. Yeah.

725
00:33:07,520 --> 00:33:10,880
Speaker 2: Uh, Indy and Sioux City, South Dakota says that Duce

726
00:33:10,960 --> 00:33:14,680
Speaker 2: looks like he's on his way to church, which, yeah,

727
00:33:14,880 --> 00:33:17,360
Speaker 2: or at least the church dinner. You know, the ham

728
00:33:17,360 --> 00:33:18,720
Speaker 2: and bean dinner that they're having.

729
00:33:18,920 --> 00:33:20,600
Speaker 5: Uh, you know the body of chrust.

730
00:33:20,720 --> 00:33:25,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, I don't either. We got was this

731
00:33:25,080 --> 00:33:26,200
Speaker 2: Roger Goodell on a bike?

732
00:33:28,680 --> 00:33:30,040
Speaker 7: Get it? He's very clever.

733
00:33:30,160 --> 00:33:33,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, we're watching NFL network. I'm sure they've got it on.

734
00:33:34,440 --> 00:33:37,840
Speaker 7: If he just rode Roger off right off the stage,

735
00:33:38,120 --> 00:33:38,960
Speaker 7: I'd be a little worried.

736
00:33:39,040 --> 00:33:40,440
Speaker 6: He tries to be coming.

737
00:33:41,680 --> 00:33:46,840
Speaker 2: If they keep going stage so uh and now now

738
00:33:46,920 --> 00:33:50,200
Speaker 2: everybody's on a bike. Isn't that cute? That's so cute?

739
00:33:50,880 --> 00:33:52,960
Speaker 5: These guys a little more comfortable than others on a bike.

740
00:33:53,240 --> 00:33:58,000
Speaker 7: Yeah, a little way.

741
00:33:57,840 --> 00:33:59,880
Speaker 5: They that that's for Will Camp?

742
00:34:00,160 --> 00:34:00,320
Speaker 7: Right?

743
00:34:00,960 --> 00:34:01,600
Speaker 2: How high.

744
00:34:02,960 --> 00:34:06,120
Speaker 7: That's? But isn't like that? He's a New Orleans guy?

745
00:34:06,200 --> 00:34:06,320
Speaker 1: Right?

746
00:34:06,360 --> 00:34:06,600
Speaker 13: I was?

747
00:34:06,640 --> 00:34:08,400
Speaker 5: Yeah, I saw the gable Wayne.

748
00:34:09,440 --> 00:34:11,279
Speaker 6: Where was the super Bowl this year? New Orleans? New

749
00:34:11,360 --> 00:34:11,799
Speaker 6: Orleans guy?

750
00:34:11,840 --> 00:34:12,000
Speaker 14: Yeah?

751
00:34:12,120 --> 00:34:14,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, you want some Draft day trivia while we

752
00:34:14,880 --> 00:34:15,640
Speaker 2: wait for this pick.

753
00:34:15,800 --> 00:34:18,000
Speaker 7: Yeah, okay, this Draft day trivia.

754
00:34:18,120 --> 00:34:21,480
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, the NFL has actually the draft has actually

755
00:34:21,520 --> 00:34:25,239
Speaker 2: been held in Wisconsin before I heard that. Do you

756
00:34:25,320 --> 00:34:27,680
Speaker 2: know the town that it was held in the year?

757
00:34:28,320 --> 00:34:29,440
Speaker 7: It was Milwaukee.

758
00:34:29,560 --> 00:34:34,480
Speaker 2: It was Milwaukee in nineteen forty, so I didn't even

759
00:34:34,520 --> 00:34:36,680
Speaker 2: know they had the draft of nineteen Who the draft?

760
00:34:36,680 --> 00:34:38,640
Speaker 7: I actually read a story about.

761
00:34:38,400 --> 00:34:41,880
Speaker 2: The guys, how many guys are available?

762
00:34:43,640 --> 00:34:46,040
Speaker 7: So does this mean the draft is officially starting now?

763
00:34:46,040 --> 00:34:46,520
Speaker 7: It seems like.

764
00:34:46,520 --> 00:34:48,360
Speaker 2: It's uh, well, the clock hasn't started.

765
00:34:48,400 --> 00:34:51,400
Speaker 7: You know, Tennessee is not officially up yet because Goodell

766
00:34:51,560 --> 00:34:53,600
Speaker 7: usually opens the draft with this little thing that he

767
00:34:53,600 --> 00:34:56,320
Speaker 7: gets boot at, right.

768
00:34:56,120 --> 00:34:58,960
Speaker 6: Yeah, we need like the what's the little chime?

769
00:35:00,080 --> 00:35:00,440
Speaker 1: Something like that.

770
00:35:01,040 --> 00:35:01,759
Speaker 5: I love that time.

771
00:35:03,920 --> 00:35:06,680
Speaker 2: Through its history, the NFL Draft has predominantly been held

772
00:35:06,680 --> 00:35:09,680
Speaker 2: in New York City wopping fifty seven times. Can you

773
00:35:09,760 --> 00:35:12,279
Speaker 2: name the cities that have hosted the draft? Second and

774
00:35:12,400 --> 00:35:16,440
Speaker 2: third most Detroit incorrect year?

775
00:35:16,440 --> 00:35:19,319
Speaker 7: Philadelphia yes, twelve times?

776
00:35:18,920 --> 00:35:21,800
Speaker 2: Who's after Philly?

777
00:35:22,600 --> 00:35:27,120
Speaker 5: Washington, no big city staying I was staying in Chicago

778
00:35:27,239 --> 00:35:28,800
Speaker 5: nine times.

779
00:35:28,840 --> 00:35:32,520
Speaker 2: Since twenty fifteen, there have only been two first overall

780
00:35:32,600 --> 00:35:35,279
Speaker 2: picks taken that were not quarterbacks. Can you name those

781
00:35:35,280 --> 00:35:37,400
Speaker 2: two players since twenty fifteen.

782
00:35:37,520 --> 00:35:43,800
Speaker 7: Oh, Mario Williams incorrect four fifteen fifteen.

783
00:35:44,000 --> 00:35:45,839
Speaker 6: I thought we were just going in general here.

784
00:35:47,800 --> 00:35:50,040
Speaker 7: Who's the number one overall pick? The Kenny pick a

785
00:35:50,120 --> 00:35:52,120
Speaker 7: year Trayvon Walker.

786
00:35:52,160 --> 00:35:55,880
Speaker 2: Trayvon Walker was correct twenty twenty. The other one was

787
00:35:55,880 --> 00:36:02,760
Speaker 2: picked in twenty seventeen. Still playing obviously, isn't the tackle

788
00:36:03,680 --> 00:36:06,640
Speaker 2: he is very highly Miles Miles Garrett.

789
00:36:06,880 --> 00:36:08,799
Speaker 6: Yes, that's took me way too long.

790
00:36:08,880 --> 00:36:10,440
Speaker 5: But got it, don't Scaret?

791
00:36:10,560 --> 00:36:12,280
Speaker 2: I get this one's a little tougher.

792
00:36:13,080 --> 00:36:14,920
Speaker 7: Uh.

793
00:36:14,960 --> 00:36:17,520
Speaker 2: This year, the top four picks are held by Tennessee, Cleveland,

794
00:36:17,560 --> 00:36:20,480
Speaker 2: New York Giants in New England. Can you name the

795
00:36:20,520 --> 00:36:23,680
Speaker 2: players those teams picked the last time they drafted in

796
00:36:23,719 --> 00:36:24,560
Speaker 2: those spots?

797
00:36:24,880 --> 00:36:28,240
Speaker 7: Okay, so Tennessee one would be.

798
00:36:30,440 --> 00:36:33,360
Speaker 2: They weren't the they weren't the Titans back then, Campbell

799
00:36:34,600 --> 00:36:36,880
Speaker 2: Earl Campbell's correct.

800
00:36:36,640 --> 00:36:40,440
Speaker 7: N The second would that be Miles Garrett?

801
00:36:40,480 --> 00:36:41,400
Speaker 6: No, he was one.

802
00:36:42,239 --> 00:36:44,400
Speaker 7: Oh it's two. Yeah, so they had to be picking

803
00:36:44,640 --> 00:36:45,360
Speaker 7: Courtney Brown.

804
00:36:45,560 --> 00:36:50,000
Speaker 2: No. I think it was was Belichick there then at

805
00:36:50,000 --> 00:36:56,560
Speaker 2: that time. I'll give you the year ninety one, yeah, probably, yeah,

806
00:36:56,880 --> 00:36:59,600
Speaker 2: not necessarily a first round town.

807
00:36:59,640 --> 00:37:02,640
Speaker 7: Well if it wasn't the first round talent Bill pick? Right?

808
00:37:03,239 --> 00:37:03,840
Speaker 2: Eric Turner?

809
00:37:03,960 --> 00:37:06,319
Speaker 7: Isn't it nice that we can do that now? We

810
00:37:06,360 --> 00:37:09,279
Speaker 7: couldn't do that right for twenty years because Frederi get

811
00:37:09,280 --> 00:37:09,600
Speaker 7: mad at me.

812
00:37:09,640 --> 00:37:11,600
Speaker 5: I'll tell you, Eric, to.

813
00:37:11,480 --> 00:37:13,160
Speaker 7: Be honest with you. I think Bill was a good

814
00:37:13,200 --> 00:37:16,200
Speaker 7: draft for the Patriots and died. I've died on that

815
00:37:16,280 --> 00:37:16,840
Speaker 7: hill before.

816
00:37:16,920 --> 00:37:17,799
Speaker 2: You said, very good.

817
00:37:18,440 --> 00:37:20,400
Speaker 7: So who was it, Eric, Eric Turner? That good player?

818
00:37:20,440 --> 00:37:21,480
Speaker 2: Not the Giants?

819
00:37:22,760 --> 00:37:23,080
Speaker 6: Three?

820
00:37:23,400 --> 00:37:23,720
Speaker 7: Three?

821
00:37:24,480 --> 00:37:26,879
Speaker 2: Think think when Parcells was there?

822
00:37:27,480 --> 00:37:32,920
Speaker 7: That wouldn't have happened if Parcells was here.

823
00:37:31,440 --> 00:37:37,000
Speaker 2: Lawrence Taylor, No, but you got the position right linebacker

824
00:37:40,080 --> 00:37:42,120
Speaker 2: Carl Banks nineteen eighty four.

825
00:37:42,160 --> 00:37:43,120
Speaker 7: It was the third pick.

826
00:37:44,000 --> 00:37:47,040
Speaker 2: And then who were the Patriots last time?

827
00:37:47,080 --> 00:37:48,120
Speaker 7: They picked? Four Will.

828
00:37:49,520 --> 00:37:50,680
Speaker 2: Nineteen ninety four?

829
00:37:51,200 --> 00:37:53,800
Speaker 6: Its are on the clock, all right, here we go.

830
00:37:53,719 --> 00:37:55,600
Speaker 7: We officially up. Yes, the clock is okay.

831
00:37:55,640 --> 00:37:57,640
Speaker 2: So they're doing ten minutes between picks.

832
00:37:57,640 --> 00:38:00,000
Speaker 7: In the first draft started at eight oh eighty.

833
00:38:00,239 --> 00:38:02,880
Speaker 2: Remember it wasn't that when there was fifteen minutes between picks.

834
00:38:03,120 --> 00:38:05,000
Speaker 6: I think there should be more time between picks.

835
00:38:05,280 --> 00:38:06,880
Speaker 7: There should do less. Yeah, I think.

836
00:38:06,680 --> 00:38:08,080
Speaker 2: Everybody a baseball route.

837
00:38:08,080 --> 00:38:11,560
Speaker 7: I think everybody should have thirty seconds to make a right,

838
00:38:11,680 --> 00:38:12,960
Speaker 7: especially in the first round.

839
00:38:13,040 --> 00:38:15,879
Speaker 6: These are big decisions. You're making your field and trade call,

840
00:38:16,280 --> 00:38:16,560
Speaker 6: and I.

841
00:38:16,480 --> 00:38:18,880
Speaker 7: Would hope you've already made it, thank you, Fred Kirch.

842
00:38:19,160 --> 00:38:21,480
Speaker 6: Okay, but maybe yeah one. But like once you get

843
00:38:21,480 --> 00:38:24,200
Speaker 6: down into the into the twenty stuff like you have

844
00:38:24,239 --> 00:38:27,040
Speaker 6: to reset the board five.

845
00:38:26,440 --> 00:38:28,640
Speaker 7: Minutes for every pick, and then once you get to

846
00:38:28,719 --> 00:38:30,640
Speaker 7: like the third round, four minutes.

847
00:38:30,719 --> 00:38:34,120
Speaker 2: Well I think that maybe I would say, Okay, they

848
00:38:34,120 --> 00:38:36,719
Speaker 2: can have they can have fifteen minutes like Eric, But

849
00:38:37,239 --> 00:38:40,000
Speaker 2: after every three minutes you have like a little shock

850
00:38:40,120 --> 00:38:41,840
Speaker 2: ding and it increasingly gets.

851
00:38:41,840 --> 00:38:42,560
Speaker 5: I love torture.

852
00:38:42,719 --> 00:38:44,080
Speaker 6: Yeah, we involved with the job.

853
00:38:44,600 --> 00:38:48,000
Speaker 2: So like after ten minutes, if you haven't you get, you.

854
00:38:48,040 --> 00:38:50,480
Speaker 7: Get ten minutes. But for every minute you take, you

855
00:38:50,600 --> 00:38:51,480
Speaker 7: lose cap space.

856
00:38:51,560 --> 00:38:52,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, there you go, you go.

857
00:38:52,960 --> 00:38:54,680
Speaker 5: I mean you need some kind of reward right now.

858
00:38:54,719 --> 00:38:57,360
Speaker 5: If Tennessee just walked right up at nine to fifty,

859
00:38:57,440 --> 00:38:59,040
Speaker 5: you know, two, and we're like, yeah, came more.

860
00:38:59,080 --> 00:39:01,799
Speaker 7: Why are we gonna sit around if it ends up

861
00:39:01,800 --> 00:39:03,960
Speaker 7: being just for the sake of dis argument, if it

862
00:39:04,040 --> 00:39:07,839
Speaker 7: ends up being cam Ward Travis Hunter, Abdul Carter, Will

863
00:39:07,920 --> 00:39:11,600
Speaker 7: Campbell right, So, in other words, the four picks that

864
00:39:11,640 --> 00:39:15,640
Speaker 7: everybody no, But if those were the four picks like

865
00:39:15,680 --> 00:39:17,719
Speaker 7: the betting like you go on DraftKings and that's what

866
00:39:17,800 --> 00:39:22,640
Speaker 7: everybody overwhelming odds. Why can't that just take the next half,

867
00:39:22,680 --> 00:39:28,680
Speaker 7: the next four minutes, that's what That's what TV exactly,

868
00:39:28,760 --> 00:39:31,640
Speaker 7: that's all. This is all all.

869
00:39:32,160 --> 00:39:35,160
Speaker 2: Like if I'm the Titans, though, and I really believe

870
00:39:35,200 --> 00:39:38,240
Speaker 2: in cam Ward. Pick is in like show the players

871
00:39:39,160 --> 00:39:41,080
Speaker 2: stated that you're fielding.

872
00:39:41,520 --> 00:39:43,560
Speaker 7: No, you probably stated that.

873
00:39:43,680 --> 00:39:47,640
Speaker 5: My guy just sitting there doing it for sale.

874
00:39:47,680 --> 00:39:50,200
Speaker 6: The pick is not for They literally say to him,

875
00:39:50,560 --> 00:39:53,239
Speaker 6: do not call this in until two minutes are on

876
00:39:53,280 --> 00:39:55,520
Speaker 6: the clock because we want to milk it on TV.

877
00:39:56,160 --> 00:39:59,320
Speaker 6: They literally tell them like that, but you have well.

878
00:39:59,280 --> 00:40:01,919
Speaker 2: I'm just playing. That's a cam Ward. I'm letting cam Ward.

879
00:40:02,440 --> 00:40:04,560
Speaker 6: This is to take it up with Goodella and ESPN.

880
00:40:04,640 --> 00:40:06,480
Speaker 6: This has nothing to do with the Titans. The Titans

881
00:40:06,520 --> 00:40:08,560
Speaker 6: would make the pick right this second right. They want

882
00:40:08,600 --> 00:40:11,120
Speaker 6: to stop. Remember what they did with Bloodsoe? Did they

883
00:40:11,160 --> 00:40:12,200
Speaker 6: run the Bloodsoe pick right?

884
00:40:12,200 --> 00:40:15,799
Speaker 7: And I wasn't. I wasn't working at the time, they.

885
00:40:15,760 --> 00:40:17,240
Speaker 6: Weren't watching unemployed.

886
00:40:17,320 --> 00:40:20,640
Speaker 10: The Patriots have only picked fourth overall two other times

887
00:40:20,680 --> 00:40:24,120
Speaker 10: prior to John Hannah Yes and Phil Olson and Phil Olson.

888
00:40:24,160 --> 00:40:28,840
Speaker 2: That is correct. When was the last time the Patriots

889
00:40:28,880 --> 00:40:31,000
Speaker 2: made two picks in the first round? What year? And

890
00:40:31,040 --> 00:40:32,000
Speaker 2: who did they select?

891
00:40:32,120 --> 00:40:33,240
Speaker 6: High Tower in twelve?

892
00:40:33,400 --> 00:40:34,360
Speaker 7: Twenty twelve?

893
00:40:34,520 --> 00:40:36,720
Speaker 2: Oh, come on, you know better than that two picks

894
00:40:36,719 --> 00:40:37,480
Speaker 2: in the first round.

895
00:40:37,840 --> 00:40:38,200
Speaker 7: It wasn't.

896
00:40:41,160 --> 00:40:43,439
Speaker 6: I just tried to bought that out. I just try

897
00:40:43,520 --> 00:40:44,640
Speaker 6: to just forget that one.

898
00:40:44,840 --> 00:40:45,879
Speaker 5: They won the Super Bowl.

899
00:40:45,920 --> 00:40:48,320
Speaker 7: I was with Evan. I thought it was High Tower.

900
00:40:48,160 --> 00:40:51,759
Speaker 5: And yeah, we don't remember that one as well. We

901
00:40:51,760 --> 00:40:53,680
Speaker 5: don't always bring the High Tower.

902
00:40:53,719 --> 00:40:54,640
Speaker 2: And remember that.

903
00:40:54,640 --> 00:40:56,359
Speaker 5: Year Man twenty twelve, the trade back up they got

904
00:40:56,360 --> 00:40:56,920
Speaker 5: two players.

905
00:40:57,280 --> 00:40:59,839
Speaker 2: When was the last time the Patriots did not make

906
00:41:00,080 --> 00:41:01,080
Speaker 2: pick in the first round?

907
00:41:01,480 --> 00:41:02,200
Speaker 6: Twenty seventeen?

908
00:41:02,719 --> 00:41:03,120
Speaker 2: Incorrect?

909
00:41:03,160 --> 00:41:04,760
Speaker 5: Yeah, duggah Douga twenty twenty.

910
00:41:04,560 --> 00:41:06,200
Speaker 2: Right, twenty twenty.

911
00:41:06,320 --> 00:41:08,000
Speaker 7: I wouldn't have gotten the year, but I just Kyle

912
00:41:08,080 --> 00:41:09,359
Speaker 7: Dugger was the second round pick.

913
00:41:09,840 --> 00:41:12,760
Speaker 5: All right, Final question, We did that whole draft show.

914
00:41:13,360 --> 00:41:16,839
Speaker 2: Final question. The Patriots were one game away from having

915
00:41:16,920 --> 00:41:19,600
Speaker 2: the first or overall pick this year. Yeah, we know

916
00:41:19,760 --> 00:41:22,080
Speaker 2: in the past they have had the first overall pick

917
00:41:22,200 --> 00:41:25,760
Speaker 2: five times. Can you name the players selected with those picks?

918
00:41:25,800 --> 00:41:29,360
Speaker 2: Number one overall picks you were five times? Jim Plunkett

919
00:41:30,440 --> 00:41:35,640
Speaker 2: that's one seventy one, Bledsoe nineteen ninety three, Ken Simms, Yes,

920
00:41:35,760 --> 00:41:41,799
Speaker 2: serving serving Friar one more. This is back in your time,

921
00:41:41,920 --> 00:41:42,840
Speaker 2: Paul in the sixties.

922
00:41:42,840 --> 00:41:44,560
Speaker 6: It's not time, bo Palini.

923
00:41:45,120 --> 00:41:49,280
Speaker 7: No, first of all, Babe.

924
00:41:48,800 --> 00:41:50,840
Speaker 2: I'll give you the year Fred not Evan.

925
00:41:51,239 --> 00:41:51,680
Speaker 7: Keep up.

926
00:41:51,719 --> 00:41:54,239
Speaker 2: I'll give you the year and the position. And to me,

927
00:41:54,360 --> 00:41:57,239
Speaker 2: I still wouldn't get it. Nineteen sixty four quarterback.

928
00:41:58,120 --> 00:42:01,040
Speaker 6: It's not it's not, the guy said to Bopolini.

929
00:42:01,680 --> 00:42:08,080
Speaker 7: No, uh, Mike Taliferro, Nope, Jack Kunk Cannon, Jack Cannon

930
00:42:08,080 --> 00:42:09,200
Speaker 7: from Boston College.

931
00:42:09,400 --> 00:42:11,800
Speaker 6: Yeah, they're gonna take Camaron.

932
00:42:11,560 --> 00:42:16,440
Speaker 7: Cam Ward live on sturdy in pocket, Baker Mayfield.

933
00:42:16,760 --> 00:42:19,000
Speaker 6: I think he's a better athlete than Baker Mayfield.

934
00:42:19,080 --> 00:42:20,080
Speaker 7: He is a better athlete.

935
00:42:20,120 --> 00:42:20,319
Speaker 6: Yeah.

936
00:42:20,760 --> 00:42:23,959
Speaker 2: So we're waiting for the Titans to officially make their pick.

937
00:42:24,080 --> 00:42:28,200
Speaker 7: But I think Sanders is more like Baker Mayfield than.

938
00:42:28,120 --> 00:42:30,200
Speaker 6: You can see that. I think when I saw you know,

939
00:42:30,239 --> 00:42:31,719
Speaker 6: I didn't watch a ton of cam Moore, but the

940
00:42:31,760 --> 00:42:33,200
Speaker 6: little bit that I did, I saw a little bit

941
00:42:33,239 --> 00:42:35,080
Speaker 6: of Russell Wilson in his game, Like they are just

942
00:42:35,080 --> 00:42:37,400
Speaker 6: spinning out of the pocket, you know, doing Russell stuff,

943
00:42:37,719 --> 00:42:40,400
Speaker 6: moving around, throwing the ball in the move, good arm strength,

944
00:42:40,440 --> 00:42:40,759
Speaker 6: good deep.

945
00:42:40,960 --> 00:42:43,239
Speaker 2: So while we wait for this pick, let's hit the hotline.

946
00:42:43,239 --> 00:42:46,600
Speaker 2: Eight five five pats, five hundred. Luke's in Boston. What's up, Luke?

947
00:42:49,440 --> 00:42:50,719
Speaker 7: What Hey?

948
00:42:50,920 --> 00:42:53,000
Speaker 2: Turn it up, Matt Hey.

949
00:42:53,840 --> 00:42:55,600
Speaker 9: We just want to call in and say, I think

950
00:42:55,640 --> 00:42:57,520
Speaker 9: there's a guy in the third round we should really

951
00:42:57,520 --> 00:42:59,600
Speaker 9: look at from Stanford.

952
00:42:59,640 --> 00:43:00,880
Speaker 15: I mean, there's a long.

953
00:43:00,719 --> 00:43:03,799
Speaker 9: Guy you can play on. You can blame the flax,

954
00:43:03,880 --> 00:43:07,239
Speaker 9: play on the outside. He's got great numbers, junior, senior year,

955
00:43:07,600 --> 00:43:14,560
Speaker 9: came back from an eighthl there, I think ale third round.

956
00:43:14,560 --> 00:43:17,080
Speaker 2: Of all the people, of all the people eligible in

957
00:43:17,120 --> 00:43:19,239
Speaker 2: the draft, why did you hit on this guy?

958
00:43:21,560 --> 00:43:22,279
Speaker 16: Well, here's the thing.

959
00:43:22,320 --> 00:43:24,160
Speaker 9: I'm from Stanford, California.

960
00:43:24,320 --> 00:43:27,040
Speaker 2: Okay, all right, I don't know who he is. You

961
00:43:27,160 --> 00:43:27,520
Speaker 2: know him?

962
00:43:27,680 --> 00:43:30,200
Speaker 7: I believe it or not. I actually know who this

963
00:43:30,239 --> 00:43:33,000
Speaker 7: guy is. Oh yeah, I think he Stanford.

964
00:43:33,000 --> 00:43:35,040
Speaker 6: I think he actually means he actually.

965
00:43:34,960 --> 00:43:37,280
Speaker 2: He knows you know him personally, Luke.

966
00:43:38,280 --> 00:43:39,120
Speaker 17: No, I don't know him.

967
00:43:39,640 --> 00:43:44,719
Speaker 7: Okay, person you wouldn't mispronounced his name, right, that's no.

968
00:43:44,800 --> 00:43:47,320
Speaker 7: I think he's He's a guy that Evan's talked about

969
00:43:47,360 --> 00:43:52,080
Speaker 7: a lot as a potential sort of Okay, third fourth round. Yeah.

970
00:43:52,200 --> 00:43:54,640
Speaker 6: Yeah, his tap against Travis Hunter was really good in

971
00:43:54,719 --> 00:43:56,960
Speaker 6: twenty three. That's kind of the tape that everybody holds

972
00:43:57,000 --> 00:43:59,400
Speaker 6: up with him. I compared him a little bit to

973
00:43:59,480 --> 00:44:02,560
Speaker 6: like Juju. You know, he's got like a powerful center

974
00:44:02,640 --> 00:44:05,400
Speaker 6: of gravity and good hands over the middle of the field.

975
00:44:05,640 --> 00:44:07,680
Speaker 6: He has some weird drops, but I think that he's

976
00:44:07,680 --> 00:44:11,000
Speaker 6: pretty consistent in traffic areas and things like that. Has

977
00:44:11,040 --> 00:44:13,200
Speaker 6: a little bit of juice on the outside if you

978
00:44:13,239 --> 00:44:14,879
Speaker 6: want him to stat, but he's not like a big

979
00:44:14,920 --> 00:44:18,400
Speaker 6: time burner. I like him at like first two levels,

980
00:44:18,680 --> 00:44:21,480
Speaker 6: you know, slants inbreakers, things like that. I think he's

981
00:44:21,520 --> 00:44:24,799
Speaker 6: got some skill there, but I would prefer somebody that's

982
00:44:24,960 --> 00:44:27,239
Speaker 6: a little bit more of a natural separator than him.

983
00:44:27,280 --> 00:44:29,680
Speaker 6: I'm worried he's gonna wear some coverage in the NFL,

984
00:44:29,760 --> 00:44:31,960
Speaker 6: but I can see where people are coming from.

985
00:44:31,960 --> 00:44:35,040
Speaker 2: All right, thanks for the call, Luke. That's Luke's BTT

986
00:44:35,239 --> 00:44:37,719
Speaker 2: guy or PTT. Which do you want to go with?

987
00:44:37,960 --> 00:44:38,320
Speaker 7: PTT?

988
00:44:38,640 --> 00:44:40,840
Speaker 6: In the movie, we have a trade, We have a trade.

989
00:44:40,960 --> 00:44:43,560
Speaker 6: We got the trade. The Browns and Jack, the Browns

990
00:44:43,560 --> 00:44:45,480
Speaker 6: and Jaguars have officially made a trade.

991
00:44:45,520 --> 00:44:45,800
Speaker 2: Wow.

992
00:44:45,960 --> 00:44:48,799
Speaker 6: Oh oh, and the Titans are about to take camp More.

993
00:44:49,320 --> 00:44:52,879
Speaker 2: Oh, okay, so we do have a trade, all right,

994
00:44:53,160 --> 00:44:55,360
Speaker 2: So we'll get to that. But here's the Titan selection.

995
00:44:55,480 --> 00:44:56,880
Speaker 2: Let's go to Roger Goodell.

996
00:44:57,239 --> 00:45:00,920
Speaker 1: We're the first pick in the five NFL draft.

997
00:45:01,760 --> 00:45:08,360
Speaker 2: The Tennessee Titan select Cameron Board quarterback timing. Okay, I

998
00:45:08,360 --> 00:45:10,000
Speaker 2: thought it was gonna be somebody else it wait's over

999
00:45:10,040 --> 00:45:10,800
Speaker 2: for cam Ward.

1000
00:45:11,680 --> 00:45:12,919
Speaker 6: So you want to hear the trade terms?

1001
00:45:13,000 --> 00:45:15,200
Speaker 7: Yeah, let's go, all right, they get a first round out.

1002
00:45:15,360 --> 00:45:17,759
Speaker 6: So the Browns are trading the number two overall pick,

1003
00:45:17,800 --> 00:45:19,880
Speaker 6: a fourth round pick, and a sixth round pick to

1004
00:45:19,920 --> 00:45:24,000
Speaker 6: the Jaguars for the fifth overall pick, a second round pick,

1005
00:45:24,200 --> 00:45:27,760
Speaker 6: a fourth round pick, and a twenty twenty six first

1006
00:45:27,800 --> 00:45:28,319
Speaker 6: round pick.

1007
00:45:28,360 --> 00:45:29,320
Speaker 2: Wow, that's all.

1008
00:45:29,520 --> 00:45:33,600
Speaker 6: So basically the big picks here, number five, number thirty

1009
00:45:33,640 --> 00:45:36,640
Speaker 6: six in the future, one going back to Cleveland for

1010
00:45:36,680 --> 00:45:40,160
Speaker 6: the number two overall pick, and Jacksonville officially on the clock.

1011
00:45:40,239 --> 00:45:43,120
Speaker 7: Now, so does Jacksonville take Travis Hunter? I would think so,

1012
00:45:43,760 --> 00:45:45,440
Speaker 7: you know, because you don't think they moved up to

1013
00:45:45,480 --> 00:45:47,640
Speaker 7: try to make sure they secured Ashton Genty.

1014
00:45:47,719 --> 00:45:51,839
Speaker 2: Dude, No, what about Carter? No, not worth it?

1015
00:45:52,239 --> 00:45:54,000
Speaker 7: Oh, he's worth it. But I would think that they're

1016
00:45:54,040 --> 00:45:56,000
Speaker 7: looking offense just based.

1017
00:45:55,640 --> 00:45:58,200
Speaker 6: On everything that all the reporting is that they are

1018
00:45:58,239 --> 00:46:00,600
Speaker 6: looking for touchdowns. That's the that's the verbal.

1019
00:46:00,719 --> 00:46:04,080
Speaker 2: So do you think, you know, the Jaguars have an

1020
00:46:04,080 --> 00:46:09,160
Speaker 2: owner who I would call him involved. Do you think

1021
00:46:09,160 --> 00:46:11,520
Speaker 2: that this is an owner saying I want the guy

1022
00:46:11,520 --> 00:46:12,760
Speaker 2: who's going to sell tickets.

1023
00:46:12,800 --> 00:46:14,840
Speaker 5: It could kind of be. I mean that's what Travis

1024
00:46:14,960 --> 00:46:17,200
Speaker 5: Hunter is. I mean, he's a draw. He's somebody who's

1025
00:46:17,239 --> 00:46:19,799
Speaker 5: going to you know, pair him with Trevor Lawrence and

1026
00:46:19,880 --> 00:46:21,239
Speaker 5: you know, now you've got a little bit more of

1027
00:46:21,239 --> 00:46:21,919
Speaker 5: a spark there.

1028
00:46:22,200 --> 00:46:26,600
Speaker 7: Perhaps I like the trade for Cleveland, Yeah, I do.

1029
00:46:26,960 --> 00:46:30,000
Speaker 7: That's you get an early second you said, and then

1030
00:46:30,000 --> 00:46:33,120
Speaker 7: a future one. Yea, and you're just going down to

1031
00:46:33,239 --> 00:46:35,200
Speaker 7: and you're just going down three spots, right.

1032
00:46:35,800 --> 00:46:36,719
Speaker 2: I think this is a hall.

1033
00:46:37,000 --> 00:46:38,759
Speaker 7: I mean the rest of that is coffee, you know,

1034
00:46:38,800 --> 00:46:41,120
Speaker 7: smoke filled coffee, house craft. Those swapping of.

1035
00:46:41,120 --> 00:46:46,000
Speaker 5: The well, you're getting it to the top of it

1036
00:46:46,400 --> 00:46:48,160
Speaker 5: at the top of the second round, and you're getting

1037
00:46:48,160 --> 00:46:48,759
Speaker 5: your future one.

1038
00:46:48,920 --> 00:46:52,080
Speaker 7: Yeah, you are only going to You're still you're still

1039
00:46:52,080 --> 00:46:52,479
Speaker 7: at five.

1040
00:46:52,560 --> 00:46:55,359
Speaker 6: But it's a two player draft, so you just trade

1041
00:46:55,400 --> 00:46:58,160
Speaker 6: it out of Travis Hunter and Abdul Carter like, maybe

1042
00:46:58,200 --> 00:47:00,839
Speaker 6: the Browns love genty and they're going to go down

1043
00:47:00,880 --> 00:47:03,000
Speaker 6: to five and they're gonna expect the Patriots and the

1044
00:47:03,000 --> 00:47:04,799
Speaker 6: Giants to do what they're going to do and then

1045
00:47:04,840 --> 00:47:05,879
Speaker 6: take Gent at five.

1046
00:47:05,880 --> 00:47:07,880
Speaker 7: I wouldn't like this as much if they do that.

1047
00:47:07,880 --> 00:47:10,880
Speaker 2: That that for the Browns, they think this, that's this

1048
00:47:11,000 --> 00:47:14,000
Speaker 2: is goal for them. This is they've they've hit it.

1049
00:47:14,160 --> 00:47:15,800
Speaker 6: I think that it's a two player draft and you

1050
00:47:15,880 --> 00:47:17,520
Speaker 6: just trade it out of one of the two players.

1051
00:47:17,760 --> 00:47:20,160
Speaker 6: It's a good haul, I suppose. I mean, it's a

1052
00:47:20,160 --> 00:47:23,560
Speaker 6: decent haul, but I I if I was a Browns fan,

1053
00:47:23,600 --> 00:47:25,520
Speaker 6: I'd be a little disappointed that they're going to pass

1054
00:47:25,560 --> 00:47:28,400
Speaker 6: on the two you know, consensus blue chip guys.

1055
00:47:29,080 --> 00:47:29,759
Speaker 5: Well that's fair.

1056
00:47:29,840 --> 00:47:33,200
Speaker 2: I mean, I actually you're gonna have two first round picks, so.

1057
00:47:33,480 --> 00:47:35,600
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean it's fair. This is I mean, this

1058
00:47:35,640 --> 00:47:37,560
Speaker 5: is surprising to me. We all talked the last couple

1059
00:47:37,560 --> 00:47:39,080
Speaker 5: of weeks. It seemed like, oh, it's chalk, we know

1060
00:47:39,120 --> 00:47:41,359
Speaker 5: what's going to happen. And then here we get twenty

1061
00:47:41,400 --> 00:47:43,600
Speaker 5: minutes before the draft starts and you start getting these rumors.

1062
00:47:43,640 --> 00:47:46,239
Speaker 5: But you know, I just say this, we're gonna get

1063
00:47:46,280 --> 00:47:47,960
Speaker 5: probably a lot of calls about how the Patriots could

1064
00:47:47,960 --> 00:47:49,920
Speaker 5: have been first overall have they lost that last game,

1065
00:47:50,239 --> 00:47:52,239
Speaker 5: And it just goes to show that some teams are

1066
00:47:52,280 --> 00:47:54,480
Speaker 5: well still willing to make those hard decisions. It's like

1067
00:47:54,800 --> 00:47:57,080
Speaker 5: said they get out to two player draft and they

1068
00:47:57,120 --> 00:47:59,480
Speaker 5: said people will pass on they had interest in one

1069
00:47:59,480 --> 00:48:03,240
Speaker 5: of those two players. Yeah, so they would have been interesting.

1070
00:48:03,280 --> 00:48:05,200
Speaker 7: I think if they you know, this is something that

1071
00:48:05,239 --> 00:48:07,520
Speaker 7: Evan was on Mike and you and I sort of

1072
00:48:07,560 --> 00:48:08,680
Speaker 7: were met about it.

1073
00:48:08,760 --> 00:48:09,320
Speaker 5: Yeah.

1074
00:48:09,440 --> 00:48:11,480
Speaker 7: I think there was value in one, you know, the

1075
00:48:11,600 --> 00:48:15,280
Speaker 7: one O two in the two player draft for sure, certainly.

1076
00:48:15,360 --> 00:48:17,040
Speaker 6: I mean, if they were at one overall at the

1077
00:48:17,080 --> 00:48:19,440
Speaker 6: quarterback just went one overall, So you're looking at probably

1078
00:48:19,440 --> 00:48:22,319
Speaker 6: an even better haul than what Cleveland just got for

1079
00:48:22,360 --> 00:48:24,400
Speaker 6: the first overall pick. As a team that doesn't need

1080
00:48:24,440 --> 00:48:27,000
Speaker 6: a quarterback, the Patriots probably could have made this trade

1081
00:48:27,000 --> 00:48:31,120
Speaker 6: with Tennessee and and you know it only fell one spot,

1082
00:48:31,200 --> 00:48:33,919
Speaker 6: two spots to probably get a future first round pick.

1083
00:48:34,920 --> 00:48:40,719
Speaker 2: All right, Uh, quickly, I do this with dread in

1084
00:48:40,800 --> 00:48:44,120
Speaker 2: my heart. Christian in LA, what's going on? Quickly because

1085
00:48:44,160 --> 00:48:53,120
Speaker 2: we don't know what's gonna happen here? Christian? All right, Okay,

1086
00:48:53,160 --> 00:48:57,120
Speaker 2: I can't what's up? I couldn't hear. Yeah, let's go

1087
00:48:57,239 --> 00:49:02,240
Speaker 2: to uh clem in Arlington in Virginia. What's up, Clem?

1088
00:49:03,320 --> 00:49:03,560
Speaker 18: Hey?

1089
00:49:03,640 --> 00:49:05,399
Speaker 19: This is a Tim ten?

1090
00:49:05,800 --> 00:49:06,160
Speaker 2: All right?

1091
00:49:06,440 --> 00:49:07,440
Speaker 7: Yeah?

1092
00:49:07,560 --> 00:49:09,719
Speaker 19: Hey, Fred Jan turn it.

1093
00:49:09,719 --> 00:49:11,360
Speaker 2: Up, Matt.

1094
00:49:12,400 --> 00:49:15,120
Speaker 19: Yeah, I'll go really quick because I know you all

1095
00:49:15,160 --> 00:49:17,279
Speaker 19: are looking at the pick. My biggest I think we're

1096
00:49:17,280 --> 00:49:20,000
Speaker 19: gonna take Campbell at four, but my biggest dread is

1097
00:49:20,040 --> 00:49:22,480
Speaker 19: that we come away with tech McMillan, that we're going

1098
00:49:22,520 --> 00:49:25,720
Speaker 19: to trade back up. The reason is he's a slower receiver.

1099
00:49:26,239 --> 00:49:29,000
Speaker 19: All of our receivers except Pop are on the slower end.

1100
00:49:29,080 --> 00:49:32,080
Speaker 19: Even the Baker was like a mid four to five guy.

1101
00:49:32,400 --> 00:49:34,439
Speaker 19: And I'm not saying you need to, you know, throw

1102
00:49:34,480 --> 00:49:37,279
Speaker 19: it down the field every place, but because literally all

1103
00:49:37,320 --> 00:49:39,960
Speaker 19: our guys are slow, you know, the safeties don't.

1104
00:49:39,800 --> 00:49:40,239
Speaker 18: Have to worry.

1105
00:49:40,280 --> 00:49:42,040
Speaker 19: And I would really like if we get a receiver

1106
00:49:42,200 --> 00:49:45,120
Speaker 19: for it not to be another guy who's his strength

1107
00:49:45,120 --> 00:49:47,080
Speaker 19: does not a speed, which none of our receivers are.

1108
00:49:47,239 --> 00:49:47,359
Speaker 1: Well.

1109
00:49:48,239 --> 00:49:50,920
Speaker 6: Your later well, yeah, I mean I don't think all right,

1110
00:49:52,120 --> 00:49:53,319
Speaker 6: I'm talking about taking Ted.

1111
00:49:53,440 --> 00:49:57,600
Speaker 7: Fred being very dismissive of early for that. I lost

1112
00:49:57,640 --> 00:49:59,680
Speaker 7: the other call too. I don't know where he went.

1113
00:50:00,320 --> 00:50:03,960
Speaker 7: Fred Lake Yeah, sort's.

1114
00:50:03,040 --> 00:50:04,279
Speaker 5: Gonna be on it tonight. It's a draft.

1115
00:50:04,480 --> 00:50:06,360
Speaker 7: Maybe I want to come back with that.

1116
00:50:06,400 --> 00:50:06,719
Speaker 17: I don't know.

1117
00:50:06,719 --> 00:50:08,719
Speaker 7: They just signed Stefan Digs He's pretty fast.

1118
00:50:08,800 --> 00:50:12,279
Speaker 2: Yeah, pick us in for Jacksonville. We don't. We don't

1119
00:50:12,280 --> 00:50:14,560
Speaker 2: know who it is yet. Are we tipping picks?

1120
00:50:14,560 --> 00:50:18,120
Speaker 6: I don't know. That's the question I was gonna ask you, do.

1121
00:50:18,080 --> 00:50:21,719
Speaker 2: We want to tip pick everyone but the Patriots. I

1122
00:50:21,719 --> 00:50:22,160
Speaker 2: don't care.

1123
00:50:22,200 --> 00:50:23,120
Speaker 6: We don't care.

1124
00:50:23,160 --> 00:50:23,839
Speaker 2: I'm not gonna die.

1125
00:50:26,160 --> 00:50:27,240
Speaker 7: We're not tipping picks.

1126
00:50:27,239 --> 00:50:30,160
Speaker 2: So jackson They'll trade it up to get Travis Hunter,

1127
00:50:30,600 --> 00:50:35,000
Speaker 2: and uh makes sense. This was the guy, probably the

1128
00:50:35,040 --> 00:50:37,320
Speaker 2: best guy available in the draft overall.

1129
00:50:37,400 --> 00:50:38,680
Speaker 6: So the Patriots are on deck here.

1130
00:50:38,719 --> 00:50:40,160
Speaker 5: It's a lot of intrigue, and I mean, a new

1131
00:50:40,160 --> 00:50:42,880
Speaker 5: coaching staff. Just interesting to see what they do with

1132
00:50:42,920 --> 00:50:45,400
Speaker 5: Travis Hunter. We talked about if he was drafted to

1133
00:50:45,400 --> 00:50:47,920
Speaker 5: the Patriots, we knew we'd probably be broken in as

1134
00:50:47,920 --> 00:50:51,719
Speaker 5: a wide receiver and supplemented as a cornerback. But I

1135
00:50:51,719 --> 00:50:55,520
Speaker 5: got to assume Jacksonville's bringing him there to catch touchdowns

1136
00:50:55,760 --> 00:50:57,400
Speaker 5: and play on the offensive side of the ball. But

1137
00:50:58,239 --> 00:51:00,000
Speaker 5: you know, it's a new coaching staff. How are they

1138
00:51:00,160 --> 00:51:02,680
Speaker 5: going to employ him? I mean Leam Collen, first time

1139
00:51:02,719 --> 00:51:05,560
Speaker 5: head coach, right, I mean, it's a pretty big responsibility.

1140
00:51:05,560 --> 00:51:07,600
Speaker 5: I mean that's something that you know, I thought about

1141
00:51:07,760 --> 00:51:11,160
Speaker 5: the Patriots to take Travis Hunter. How these offensive coaches,

1142
00:51:11,200 --> 00:51:13,840
Speaker 5: Josh muctaniels, there's a lot of pressure on them to

1143
00:51:13,920 --> 00:51:16,480
Speaker 5: take this guy who you know clearly now Jacksonville has

1144
00:51:16,520 --> 00:51:19,279
Speaker 5: given up a lot of capital to get this kid.

1145
00:51:19,680 --> 00:51:21,839
Speaker 5: He's got to work like this coaching staff has to

1146
00:51:21,840 --> 00:51:23,319
Speaker 5: make sure that he does.

1147
00:51:23,320 --> 00:51:24,680
Speaker 2: He have to work at wide receiver.

1148
00:51:24,800 --> 00:51:27,960
Speaker 5: I mean, yes, I think, but the Patriots would have

1149
00:51:27,960 --> 00:51:29,640
Speaker 5: to work about jackson I think.

1150
00:51:29,680 --> 00:51:30,920
Speaker 7: I mean, I don't know what they need.

1151
00:51:31,600 --> 00:51:34,680
Speaker 6: They need. They needed everything they need corner and receiver.

1152
00:51:34,840 --> 00:51:38,000
Speaker 6: But from everything that's come out of Jacksonville and some

1153
00:51:38,040 --> 00:51:40,239
Speaker 6: of the reporting out of their pre draft was that

1154
00:51:40,280 --> 00:51:43,280
Speaker 6: they were looking for skilled players. And that's why Genty

1155
00:51:43,360 --> 00:51:45,719
Speaker 6: came name came up. I had Ted McMillan going to

1156
00:51:45,719 --> 00:51:46,560
Speaker 6: them because I didn't think that.

1157
00:51:46,600 --> 00:51:49,200
Speaker 2: By the way, Ted doesn't like to be called tet.

1158
00:51:49,520 --> 00:51:53,399
Speaker 2: He's t mac. He's Ted, and I'm serious. He says

1159
00:51:53,480 --> 00:51:55,560
Speaker 2: his mother would get insulted if you call him tet.

1160
00:51:55,719 --> 00:52:00,640
Speaker 10: Okay, t mac t mac is okay, She likes that, Yeah,

1161
00:52:00,640 --> 00:52:01,360
Speaker 10: but not so.

1162
00:52:01,680 --> 00:52:03,960
Speaker 6: I would assume that this is to pair him with

1163
00:52:04,000 --> 00:52:06,880
Speaker 6: Brian Thomas Jr. And to move forward with Trevor Lawrence

1164
00:52:06,920 --> 00:52:08,360
Speaker 6: and let's.

1165
00:52:08,120 --> 00:52:13,600
Speaker 2: Go to the podium.

1166
00:52:13,719 --> 00:52:15,160
Speaker 7: Let's go to the podium.

1167
00:52:15,560 --> 00:52:23,399
Speaker 2: No, okay, okay, so he's not talking, Okay, just cut

1168
00:52:23,440 --> 00:52:25,439
Speaker 2: in and he just yeah, just cut me off when

1169
00:52:25,560 --> 00:52:27,160
Speaker 2: when he starts talking about the pick.

1170
00:52:27,040 --> 00:52:29,960
Speaker 7: He's doing that period that Andy Hart would be disrespectful, right,

1171
00:52:30,000 --> 00:52:31,600
Speaker 7: And then it's like an a wish, kids, we don't

1172
00:52:31,640 --> 00:52:34,440
Speaker 7: want to do that. I didn't have to necessarily say exactly.

1173
00:52:34,160 --> 00:52:37,960
Speaker 2: While we're waiting sea bass and masses outright back at

1174
00:52:38,520 --> 00:52:42,919
Speaker 2: coach Michael George Vrabel. Here, I am trying to enjoy

1175
00:52:42,920 --> 00:52:44,640
Speaker 2: the evening with the family at our third home in

1176
00:52:44,640 --> 00:52:46,920
Speaker 2: the Riviera, and my eyes are assaulted out here.

1177
00:52:46,800 --> 00:52:53,959
Speaker 7: We go, har arms.

1178
00:52:57,239 --> 00:53:00,480
Speaker 20: I want to say thank you to the commissioner, thank

1179
00:53:00,520 --> 00:53:03,279
Speaker 20: you to the Peyton family in the NFL and nationwide,

1180
00:53:03,880 --> 00:53:07,240
Speaker 20: and also too tonight. I want to encourage each player

1181
00:53:07,280 --> 00:53:11,080
Speaker 20: embarking on the NFL journey to identify a passion close

1182
00:53:11,120 --> 00:53:14,719
Speaker 20: to their heart and act upon it. Use your platform

1183
00:53:14,800 --> 00:53:17,560
Speaker 20: to make your community, the league, in this world a

1184
00:53:17,640 --> 00:53:22,520
Speaker 20: better place as we remember Walter Payton tried to leave

1185
00:53:22,560 --> 00:53:24,479
Speaker 20: a positive legacy of your own.

1186
00:53:25,239 --> 00:53:25,600
Speaker 1: Thank you.

1187
00:53:35,160 --> 00:53:39,080
Speaker 5: We have a trade.

1188
00:53:40,120 --> 00:53:43,400
Speaker 21: The Cleveland Browns have traded the second pick to the

1189
00:53:43,480 --> 00:53:51,239
Speaker 21: Jacksonville Jaguars, and with the second pick in the two

1190
00:53:51,760 --> 00:53:57,000
Speaker 21: twenty twenty five NFL Draft, the Jacksonville Jaguars select Travis

1191
00:53:57,120 --> 00:53:58,640
Speaker 21: Hunters Robers.

1192
00:53:59,080 --> 00:54:04,319
Speaker 2: Okay, it took that Travis Hunter Jacksonville draft. Good for

1193
00:54:05,440 --> 00:54:06,240
Speaker 2: Trevor Lawrence.

1194
00:54:06,480 --> 00:54:09,400
Speaker 7: Joe Banner agrees with with us what he said. The

1195
00:54:09,480 --> 00:54:12,040
Speaker 7: Jaguars have lost their minds and the Browns take advantage.

1196
00:54:12,200 --> 00:54:16,160
Speaker 7: Really yeah, Joe Banner former, I don't.

1197
00:54:15,960 --> 00:54:18,560
Speaker 2: Think Evin thinks they lost their mind Baguar.

1198
00:54:18,680 --> 00:54:20,400
Speaker 6: He think the Browns lost their minds.

1199
00:54:20,480 --> 00:54:23,319
Speaker 2: Oh okay, yeah, he thinks the Browns traded out of

1200
00:54:23,320 --> 00:54:24,280
Speaker 2: it two man draft.

1201
00:54:24,800 --> 00:54:25,880
Speaker 6: The Browns lost their minds.

1202
00:54:25,920 --> 00:54:26,799
Speaker 7: I don't think that. I don't.

1203
00:54:26,880 --> 00:54:29,919
Speaker 6: I would like players, not picks. I have no sense.

1204
00:54:30,040 --> 00:54:32,439
Speaker 6: Send like, I don't know what that twenty twenty six

1205
00:54:32,520 --> 00:54:34,840
Speaker 6: first is going to turn into. Like Jacksonville was just

1206
00:54:34,840 --> 00:54:35,759
Speaker 6: in the playoffs two years.

1207
00:54:35,800 --> 00:54:37,319
Speaker 7: I don't know. But they still have the fifth pick.

1208
00:54:37,440 --> 00:54:38,280
Speaker 7: They could still get.

1209
00:54:38,120 --> 00:54:40,120
Speaker 6: A player, but it's not going to be Travis Hunter.

1210
00:54:40,320 --> 00:54:43,399
Speaker 7: No, they I will guarantee you will not be Travis Hunter.

1211
00:54:43,560 --> 00:54:43,759
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1212
00:54:43,960 --> 00:54:46,480
Speaker 6: All offseason we've been talking about it's a two player draft.

1213
00:54:46,760 --> 00:54:48,280
Speaker 6: They just traded out of the two players.

1214
00:54:48,320 --> 00:54:49,799
Speaker 7: I think they got a lot. I think they got

1215
00:54:49,840 --> 00:54:50,720
Speaker 7: a lot for that pick.

1216
00:54:51,080 --> 00:54:51,440
Speaker 2: They did.

1217
00:54:51,800 --> 00:54:53,880
Speaker 5: For what it's worth. Andrew Brandt said Browns had to

1218
00:54:53,880 --> 00:54:55,560
Speaker 5: do that an offer they couldn't refuse.

1219
00:54:55,800 --> 00:54:58,640
Speaker 7: Yeap, what Wade couldn't refuse.

1220
00:54:58,800 --> 00:55:02,480
Speaker 2: Yeah. Look at Travis Hunter is just hopping to the podium.

1221
00:55:02,480 --> 00:55:04,120
Speaker 5: He knows he got drafted by the jackson Listen.

1222
00:55:04,200 --> 00:55:07,360
Speaker 2: It's it's good for him. Look at him dance. Wow,

1223
00:55:07,800 --> 00:55:08,359
Speaker 2: good for him.

1224
00:55:08,560 --> 00:55:11,920
Speaker 5: He's a fun player. Look, we flirted with the idea

1225
00:55:11,920 --> 00:55:14,560
Speaker 5: of him coming here during the spring when you didn't

1226
00:55:14,560 --> 00:55:16,920
Speaker 5: really know what was gonna happen. And there's no question

1227
00:55:17,000 --> 00:55:19,800
Speaker 5: he's gonna bring a jolt of life in many different

1228
00:55:19,800 --> 00:55:22,640
Speaker 5: ways to that franchise. And then they should be really excited.

1229
00:55:22,680 --> 00:55:24,560
Speaker 5: I mean, it's we'll see how it comes together. We

1230
00:55:24,600 --> 00:55:26,560
Speaker 5: know it's hard to solve that problem in Jackson alone.

1231
00:55:26,800 --> 00:55:27,040
Speaker 1: Yep.

1232
00:55:27,920 --> 00:55:33,000
Speaker 2: So Jacksonville Jaguar was putting fannies in the seats with

1233
00:55:33,120 --> 00:55:34,319
Speaker 2: the pick of Travis Hunter.

1234
00:55:34,600 --> 00:55:35,880
Speaker 5: I mean, do you think there's a chance, like just

1235
00:55:35,880 --> 00:55:37,799
Speaker 5: to play negative Nelly because it's not our team now,

1236
00:55:37,800 --> 00:55:40,040
Speaker 5: but like that they get caught trying to do too

1237
00:55:40,120 --> 00:55:43,040
Speaker 5: much stuff with him and then he gets overwhelmed and

1238
00:55:43,080 --> 00:55:45,239
Speaker 5: he doesn't really make an impact on either side of

1239
00:55:45,280 --> 00:55:47,120
Speaker 5: There is a chance, you know, I worried about it.

1240
00:55:47,120 --> 00:55:48,440
Speaker 7: I don't want to come I don't think it's a

1241
00:55:48,440 --> 00:55:50,359
Speaker 7: big chance. I don't want to come off as being

1242
00:55:50,360 --> 00:55:52,320
Speaker 7: a fraud because I think Travis Hunter is an excellent,

1243
00:55:52,360 --> 00:55:54,360
Speaker 7: excellent player. I just don't think I'm as high on

1244
00:55:54,400 --> 00:55:57,439
Speaker 7: him as Evans. I don't think that he is as

1245
00:55:57,440 --> 00:55:59,440
Speaker 7: good a wide receiver as Evan thinks he is. I

1246
00:55:59,480 --> 00:56:02,759
Speaker 7: do think you could be as good a cornerback well,

1247
00:56:02,760 --> 00:56:05,120
Speaker 7: but that doesn't seem like everybody wants to use him there.

1248
00:56:05,520 --> 00:56:07,799
Speaker 7: I don't even the whole two way thing would kind

1249
00:56:07,840 --> 00:56:08,319
Speaker 7: of worry me.

1250
00:56:08,640 --> 00:56:10,960
Speaker 6: I'm not even so much as like saying that I

1251
00:56:11,000 --> 00:56:14,600
Speaker 6: think that you know he's going to be a Hall

1252
00:56:14,640 --> 00:56:17,520
Speaker 6: of famer. Lock it in. It's just like this draft class,

1253
00:56:17,560 --> 00:56:21,000
Speaker 6: the talent drop off is significant, so you're trading out

1254
00:56:21,040 --> 00:56:22,959
Speaker 6: of two of the guys that everybody agrees are blue

1255
00:56:23,040 --> 00:56:24,320
Speaker 6: chip players in any draft.

1256
00:56:24,360 --> 00:56:26,520
Speaker 7: I think he has blue chip ability I'm not sure

1257
00:56:26,520 --> 00:56:28,480
Speaker 7: he's going to be that though, because I think he's

1258
00:56:28,480 --> 00:56:30,120
Speaker 7: going to try to do too much. I think he's

1259
00:56:30,239 --> 00:56:32,960
Speaker 7: really really hell bent on playing both ways, and I

1260
00:56:32,960 --> 00:56:34,520
Speaker 7: think that's going to be to his detriment.

1261
00:56:34,719 --> 00:56:38,480
Speaker 6: Yeah, we'll see. I think that he'll most likely major

1262
00:56:38,480 --> 00:56:41,960
Speaker 6: in playing wide receiver, and eventually they will stack on

1263
00:56:42,040 --> 00:56:44,960
Speaker 6: defense to appease him. But I don't think I think

1264
00:56:44,960 --> 00:56:47,600
Speaker 6: it's going to be similar to, you know, a little

1265
00:56:47,640 --> 00:56:51,200
Speaker 6: bit more volume, but like a similar idea as Marcus Jones,

1266
00:56:51,200 --> 00:56:53,279
Speaker 6: where it's like, yeah, you might play you know, we'll

1267
00:56:53,400 --> 00:56:55,080
Speaker 6: let you play a little bit on defense to make

1268
00:56:55,080 --> 00:56:56,520
Speaker 6: you feel good about your opposite.

1269
00:56:56,560 --> 00:56:58,880
Speaker 7: I would want to be like Marcus Jones play defense

1270
00:56:58,920 --> 00:57:01,160
Speaker 7: and will let you dabble on offense. I don't think

1271
00:57:01,160 --> 00:57:02,560
Speaker 7: it's going to be that way, and I don't think

1272
00:57:02,600 --> 00:57:04,719
Speaker 7: he's going to be special offensively. I think he could

1273
00:57:04,719 --> 00:57:05,520
Speaker 7: be special defense.

1274
00:57:05,680 --> 00:57:07,959
Speaker 2: Well, do you think that the only way that you

1275
00:57:08,040 --> 00:57:11,480
Speaker 2: do what Jacksonville did is is that your intention is

1276
00:57:11,520 --> 00:57:12,000
Speaker 2: to play.

1277
00:57:11,840 --> 00:57:12,720
Speaker 7: Him at wide receiver.

1278
00:57:13,760 --> 00:57:16,200
Speaker 5: I would have a major in why I would think so,

1279
00:57:17,360 --> 00:57:19,200
Speaker 5: but I would I would think at the same time,

1280
00:57:19,200 --> 00:57:21,400
Speaker 5: I think he's a whole package too that that comes

1281
00:57:21,440 --> 00:57:24,240
Speaker 5: with you know, everything that comes with what childa center is.

1282
00:57:24,280 --> 00:57:26,200
Speaker 5: I just I think with Brian Thomas though there that

1283
00:57:26,200 --> 00:57:27,800
Speaker 5: that helps it a little bit, just for me, how

1284
00:57:27,840 --> 00:57:28,240
Speaker 5: to what.

1285
00:57:28,160 --> 00:57:31,120
Speaker 7: You said about ten minutes ago, Mike is the reason

1286
00:57:31,160 --> 00:57:33,720
Speaker 7: I think they made this pick. And then it's not

1287
00:57:33,800 --> 00:57:36,720
Speaker 7: good reasons. It's like, this is something you can sell,

1288
00:57:37,000 --> 00:57:39,120
Speaker 7: you know, your fan base, it's a market that needs

1289
00:57:39,160 --> 00:57:44,080
Speaker 7: that buzz. It might work. So the Patriots he's a special,

1290
00:57:44,200 --> 00:57:45,040
Speaker 7: special player.

1291
00:57:45,200 --> 00:57:47,640
Speaker 2: So the Giants pick is it might work. The Giants

1292
00:57:47,640 --> 00:57:50,120
Speaker 2: pick is in no trades, right.

1293
00:57:50,120 --> 00:57:54,000
Speaker 6: Yeah, they rushed this card up to doors. They rushed

1294
00:57:54,000 --> 00:57:58,000
Speaker 6: this card up up to It's not it's not going

1295
00:57:58,040 --> 00:57:58,840
Speaker 6: to be a quarterback.

1296
00:57:59,120 --> 00:58:00,479
Speaker 7: No, it's going to be car right.

1297
00:58:00,600 --> 00:58:02,080
Speaker 6: Yeah, I don't know are you tipping picks or not?

1298
00:58:02,160 --> 00:58:03,120
Speaker 6: Because I don't know.

1299
00:58:03,200 --> 00:58:05,400
Speaker 2: Go ahead, yeah, it'll be okay.

1300
00:58:05,440 --> 00:58:08,280
Speaker 6: So they're going to take Abdul Carter. So the Patriots

1301
00:58:08,280 --> 00:58:10,000
Speaker 6: are on the clock and the exact kind of spot

1302
00:58:10,040 --> 00:58:11,480
Speaker 6: that we all thought they would be in here.

1303
00:58:11,560 --> 00:58:14,520
Speaker 7: Yeah, we've already got the start of the tweets like

1304
00:58:14,560 --> 00:58:17,240
Speaker 7: please don't tip picks, but oh did we Yeah, we

1305
00:58:17,400 --> 00:58:20,840
Speaker 7: just got one.

1306
00:58:20,400 --> 00:58:23,080
Speaker 2: To finish up Sea Bass and mass He's very upset

1307
00:58:23,120 --> 00:58:26,320
Speaker 2: with Mike Rabel being a court side at the Celtics

1308
00:58:26,360 --> 00:58:30,000
Speaker 2: game wearing shoes without socks. He says, it's one thing

1309
00:58:30,000 --> 00:58:31,760
Speaker 2: at the league meeting when you got Andy Reid and

1310
00:58:31,760 --> 00:58:33,600
Speaker 2: his Hawaiian shirts soaking up the air in the room,

1311
00:58:33,600 --> 00:58:36,160
Speaker 2: but court side of the garden during the playoffs garbage.

1312
00:58:36,160 --> 00:58:38,360
Speaker 2: I say, get it out of here. I barely wanted

1313
00:58:38,360 --> 00:58:41,120
Speaker 2: to see my mistress after the U and ended up

1314
00:58:41,200 --> 00:58:43,960
Speaker 2: just exchanging pictures of expensive things we own with Christian

1315
00:58:43,960 --> 00:58:46,960
Speaker 2: in La. Who invented the silly style? And how did

1316
00:58:46,960 --> 00:58:49,400
Speaker 2: they not think of the smell? Well, we'd have to

1317
00:58:49,440 --> 00:58:52,240
Speaker 2: ask Matt no socks, I mean that's the style.

1318
00:58:52,440 --> 00:58:54,280
Speaker 7: That's that's that's.

1319
00:58:54,120 --> 00:58:56,080
Speaker 2: At the leather loafers with no sock.

1320
00:58:56,120 --> 00:58:57,920
Speaker 7: I would not say it's the style. I would say

1321
00:58:57,960 --> 00:58:59,560
Speaker 7: it's it's a style.

1322
00:59:00,120 --> 00:59:00,400
Speaker 22: Cardo.

1323
00:59:00,640 --> 00:59:03,040
Speaker 5: We know there was foot socks though, right, maybe those

1324
00:59:03,040 --> 00:59:06,080
Speaker 5: socks were a little low. You're still getting some socks, fairness.

1325
00:59:06,480 --> 00:59:09,480
Speaker 5: I do wear those me too. Yeah, I don't know

1326
00:59:09,520 --> 00:59:11,640
Speaker 5: what's in style, though I realize I'm old enough now that.

1327
00:59:11,840 --> 00:59:13,840
Speaker 7: You can't see them, right. No, you would never know

1328
00:59:13,840 --> 00:59:14,160
Speaker 7: that you have.

1329
00:59:14,520 --> 00:59:17,720
Speaker 5: Long socks, short socks, baggy jeans, tight jeans. Like I've

1330
00:59:17,760 --> 00:59:19,520
Speaker 5: been around long, everything comes around. I feel like you

1331
00:59:19,560 --> 00:59:21,160
Speaker 5: just need one of each, and then you wait for

1332
00:59:21,200 --> 00:59:22,640
Speaker 5: each trend to come, wait for them, and you just

1333
00:59:22,720 --> 00:59:23,919
Speaker 5: run all back on my bag.

1334
00:59:23,960 --> 00:59:25,600
Speaker 7: You wait for the young people to tell you which

1335
00:59:25,640 --> 00:59:26,440
Speaker 7: one of those things.

1336
00:59:26,440 --> 00:59:26,840
Speaker 2: They're all on.

1337
00:59:26,880 --> 00:59:30,320
Speaker 5: Baggy jeans now, baggy jeans are bag jeans. Baggye jeans

1338
00:59:30,320 --> 00:59:30,760
Speaker 5: are huge.

1339
00:59:30,880 --> 00:59:32,720
Speaker 2: Really, that's I mean, that's yeah, that's true.

1340
00:59:32,760 --> 00:59:34,919
Speaker 7: I have seen that. You know it's a bad look.

1341
00:59:35,000 --> 00:59:36,800
Speaker 5: I mean, you go out, you just see the young people.

1342
00:59:36,800 --> 00:59:38,480
Speaker 5: They're all drastic, exactly like Carter.

1343
00:59:38,640 --> 00:59:41,880
Speaker 2: Hey, all right, giant.

1344
00:59:42,160 --> 00:59:44,720
Speaker 7: So I have to be honest. Ever since that Abdul

1345
00:59:44,800 --> 00:59:47,400
Speaker 7: Carter tweeted out the picture of himself and like the

1346
00:59:47,520 --> 00:59:50,439
Speaker 7: l t get like, I didn't think there was any

1347
00:59:50,520 --> 00:59:54,360
Speaker 7: chance at all. But that's that's the first step of

1348
00:59:54,480 --> 00:59:57,440
Speaker 7: my well, probably number thirteen Mike's way with.

1349
00:59:58,680 --> 01:00:00,280
Speaker 5: Could I tee you up, though, Paul to talk unless

1350
01:00:00,320 --> 01:00:03,000
Speaker 5: you your take about Abdul Carter with the giants and

1351
01:00:03,320 --> 01:00:05,960
Speaker 5: you know they have to with defensive ends with burns

1352
01:00:05,960 --> 01:00:08,640
Speaker 5: and thibodeaux and talk about your.

1353
01:00:08,520 --> 01:00:11,560
Speaker 7: Plants, something that they've done with a tremendous amount of success.

1354
01:00:11,960 --> 01:00:13,920
Speaker 7: They go with the theory of you know, you can

1355
01:00:13,960 --> 01:00:16,000
Speaker 7: never have too much pitching in baseball, you can never

1356
01:00:16,040 --> 01:00:18,800
Speaker 7: have too many corners, and you can never have too

1357
01:00:18,800 --> 01:00:21,880
Speaker 7: many pass rushers. They they did it with tremendous success,

1358
01:00:22,280 --> 01:00:24,920
Speaker 7: and we have only ourselves to look at here in

1359
01:00:24,960 --> 01:00:27,520
Speaker 7: the O seven Super Bowl. What was a big part

1360
01:00:27,520 --> 01:00:29,720
Speaker 7: of their success that day is their dominance up front

1361
01:00:29,760 --> 01:00:34,360
Speaker 7: with Strahan and Umnyora and justin touch. You know, they

1362
01:00:34,360 --> 01:00:36,880
Speaker 7: had I even want to go back to like Matthias

1363
01:00:36,960 --> 01:00:41,360
Speaker 7: kewanve like they had a lot of depth at defensive end,

1364
01:00:41,360 --> 01:00:44,480
Speaker 7: and it didn't stop them from continuing to draft high

1365
01:00:44,600 --> 01:00:46,640
Speaker 7: on the edge. So I thought, this is something that

1366
01:00:46,640 --> 01:00:48,480
Speaker 7: they've done in the past, and they would do it again.

1367
01:00:48,760 --> 01:00:51,800
Speaker 7: I think, like like Evan said, with Hunter, I think

1368
01:00:51,840 --> 01:00:53,480
Speaker 7: Carter's worth it. Those are the two guys.

1369
01:00:54,520 --> 01:00:56,880
Speaker 6: I just wonder if Keevon Thibodeau is now a trade

1370
01:00:56,920 --> 01:00:59,520
Speaker 6: piece for them, and he's now expendable and he has

1371
01:00:59,560 --> 01:01:01,800
Speaker 6: an exact act lived up to the draft status of

1372
01:01:01,840 --> 01:01:02,880
Speaker 6: being a top ten pick.

1373
01:01:03,080 --> 01:01:05,640
Speaker 7: He's been okay, nothing specially right, So there's.

1374
01:01:05,480 --> 01:01:07,560
Speaker 6: A chance that maybe they're not looking to pay him

1375
01:01:07,600 --> 01:01:09,680
Speaker 6: long term, and whether it's this year or next year,

1376
01:01:10,280 --> 01:01:12,920
Speaker 6: he is dealta to make room for Abdul Carter. But

1377
01:01:13,200 --> 01:01:17,120
Speaker 6: Abdul Carter's fantastic player. He can play inside a little bit.

1378
01:01:17,240 --> 01:01:19,040
Speaker 6: I don't think that's the best usage of him. But

1379
01:01:19,320 --> 01:01:20,880
Speaker 6: if you wanted to try to get all three of

1380
01:01:20,880 --> 01:01:23,920
Speaker 6: those guys on the field at once, Abdul Carter absolutely

1381
01:01:23,960 --> 01:01:27,320
Speaker 6: can stand up over the garden center and rush from

1382
01:01:27,360 --> 01:01:30,240
Speaker 6: the interior like Michael Parsons does. You can do that

1383
01:01:30,280 --> 01:01:32,200
Speaker 6: sort of thing with him on third down and it

1384
01:01:32,240 --> 01:01:34,320
Speaker 6: can be a problem for guards and centers.

1385
01:01:34,600 --> 01:01:36,680
Speaker 5: Correct me if I'm wrong, now, isn't it. The defensive

1386
01:01:36,680 --> 01:01:39,640
Speaker 5: coordator is still Rabels old defensive coordinator from Tennessee as

1387
01:01:39,720 --> 01:01:42,720
Speaker 5: just the Giants defensive coordinator now. I believe if they

1388
01:01:42,760 --> 01:01:44,240
Speaker 5: did not get rid of him last year, they were

1389
01:01:44,280 --> 01:01:46,280
Speaker 5: the new guy he brought in. So just similar kind

1390
01:01:46,320 --> 01:01:48,400
Speaker 5: of defenses we were talking about, similar kind of things

1391
01:01:48,560 --> 01:01:51,160
Speaker 5: you're breaking bringing in. You know that kind of player

1392
01:01:51,440 --> 01:01:53,919
Speaker 5: Abdul Carter would absolutely fit with what they were doing.

1393
01:01:54,000 --> 01:01:57,240
Speaker 2: The Patriots pick is in, we will okay, So no

1394
01:01:57,400 --> 01:01:58,640
Speaker 2: trade for the Patriots.

1395
01:01:58,680 --> 01:02:02,480
Speaker 10: So trade they did not plan a has not materialized

1396
01:02:02,600 --> 01:02:07,080
Speaker 10: and your planning and we don't have the ammunition to

1397
01:02:07,160 --> 01:02:10,880
Speaker 10: move back yet really without giving away assets that we need.

1398
01:02:11,000 --> 01:02:15,720
Speaker 7: So what we'll get, we'll wait till the pick and

1399
01:02:15,760 --> 01:02:18,240
Speaker 7: then we'll get into the whole trade thing. Because we

1400
01:02:18,280 --> 01:02:21,040
Speaker 7: had a good conversation today, Freddy, and I think you

1401
01:02:21,080 --> 01:02:22,520
Speaker 7: came down and maybe to get in part of that.

1402
01:02:22,560 --> 01:02:24,040
Speaker 7: And then you saw that we had a full house

1403
01:02:24,240 --> 01:02:26,480
Speaker 7: when we did our show this afternoon. Didn't you stop it? No?

1404
01:02:26,480 --> 01:02:27,320
Speaker 2: No, I had to do so.

1405
01:02:27,400 --> 01:02:28,760
Speaker 5: I was just making because I was.

1406
01:02:28,760 --> 01:02:30,400
Speaker 7: Actually hoping you were coming in. We had a good

1407
01:02:30,440 --> 01:02:34,480
Speaker 7: conversation about the trade up from the top of the

1408
01:02:34,480 --> 01:02:36,880
Speaker 7: second round back into the first What would you do

1409
01:02:36,960 --> 01:02:41,360
Speaker 7: it for? Not necessarily individual, but position wise? Is there

1410
01:02:41,400 --> 01:02:43,480
Speaker 7: more than one? You know what you're looking at. I

1411
01:02:43,520 --> 01:02:44,840
Speaker 7: think we can get into that after we.

1412
01:02:45,120 --> 01:02:49,480
Speaker 2: See the trade up means you trade it down. You

1413
01:02:49,520 --> 01:02:52,640
Speaker 2: didn't get Campbell, and then you have to trade up

1414
01:02:53,000 --> 01:02:53,680
Speaker 2: to get a task.

1415
01:02:53,800 --> 01:02:56,720
Speaker 7: My guys, the trade up to me would be because

1416
01:02:56,720 --> 01:02:58,520
Speaker 7: you didn't get a tackle and you need one, right

1417
01:02:59,080 --> 01:02:59,960
Speaker 7: you can't wait.

1418
01:02:59,760 --> 01:03:02,720
Speaker 2: Till But now in the first round, I got a

1419
01:03:02,760 --> 01:03:05,880
Speaker 2: player and a tackle, so I'm really happy. But without

1420
01:03:05,880 --> 01:03:08,480
Speaker 2: having to trade down and having those extra assets, now,

1421
01:03:08,480 --> 01:03:11,080
Speaker 2: I'm not willing to give up what it's gonna take

1422
01:03:11,440 --> 01:03:13,040
Speaker 2: to trade back into the first round.

1423
01:03:13,120 --> 01:03:15,240
Speaker 5: Yeah, that's fair. I would just say I think there

1424
01:03:15,280 --> 01:03:18,480
Speaker 5: are some edges that it really intrigued me that I

1425
01:03:18,480 --> 01:03:22,520
Speaker 5: think would probably maybe intrigue them to trade up. And yeah,

1426
01:03:22,600 --> 01:03:24,760
Speaker 5: we could wait and get one of the other edges,

1427
01:03:24,800 --> 01:03:27,200
Speaker 5: but this guy's here. Now, let's go up and go

1428
01:03:27,240 --> 01:03:30,040
Speaker 5: get them. But we'll see how it plays out. I

1429
01:03:30,120 --> 01:03:31,760
Speaker 5: still think that that's something that that should be in

1430
01:03:31,800 --> 01:03:34,040
Speaker 5: play for tonight. Seemed like last year they tried to

1431
01:03:34,040 --> 01:03:35,520
Speaker 5: do it. They made a pick early in the first

1432
01:03:35,800 --> 01:03:37,720
Speaker 5: tried to get back up into the late first.

1433
01:03:37,600 --> 01:03:40,560
Speaker 7: So people are now tweeting it. So you know, what

1434
01:03:40,600 --> 01:03:41,040
Speaker 7: are we doing?

1435
01:03:41,080 --> 01:03:43,600
Speaker 2: Go ahead, Will Campbell?

1436
01:03:43,680 --> 01:03:49,400
Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, yeah, so Freddy, Yeah, the Patriots select.

1437
01:03:49,400 --> 01:03:54,640
Speaker 5: They heard your table pounding in the Will Campbell, let's

1438
01:03:54,680 --> 01:04:02,720
Speaker 5: do it.

1439
01:04:03,920 --> 01:04:08,680
Speaker 6: Okay, we're all getting We're all yeah, maybe you should

1440
01:04:08,720 --> 01:04:12,280
Speaker 6: like stand in front of everybody because you're actually protecting

1441
01:04:12,360 --> 01:04:15,320
Speaker 6: the franchise's.

1442
01:04:16,360 --> 01:04:21,000
Speaker 5: Look at this, look at this. Well uh it's you know,

1443
01:04:21,080 --> 01:04:22,880
Speaker 5: I know, I know there's some questions, but let's just

1444
01:04:22,920 --> 01:04:26,720
Speaker 5: say the positives with this kid tremendous locker room presence. Uh,

1445
01:04:26,760 --> 01:04:28,400
Speaker 5: you know, like I said at the top, of the show.

1446
01:04:28,440 --> 01:04:30,840
Speaker 5: Feel like he's the leader, kind of a tone setter

1447
01:04:31,040 --> 01:04:34,520
Speaker 5: for the offensive line. Plays with that kind of snarly attitude.

1448
01:04:34,760 --> 01:04:37,040
Speaker 5: It's been a left tackle since high school. This is

1449
01:04:37,080 --> 01:04:39,440
Speaker 5: all he knows. Came into l s us. You know,

1450
01:04:39,480 --> 01:04:42,040
Speaker 5: it's played there three years. I think he's given up

1451
01:04:42,040 --> 01:04:45,400
Speaker 5: two sacks over the last two years. So phenomenal athlete,

1452
01:04:45,480 --> 01:04:48,040
Speaker 5: phenomenal off the field presence, Yes, his length will be

1453
01:04:48,080 --> 01:04:50,160
Speaker 5: will be part of the question. But for a team

1454
01:04:50,160 --> 01:04:52,520
Speaker 5: that has just struggled for left tackle for so long,

1455
01:04:53,400 --> 01:04:55,000
Speaker 5: it feels good to feel like, all right, we got

1456
01:04:55,040 --> 01:04:57,000
Speaker 5: a guid a pencil in there on that left tackle spot,

1457
01:04:57,000 --> 01:05:00,320
Speaker 5: a legitimate left tackle with real athleticism that I think

1458
01:05:00,320 --> 01:05:02,760
Speaker 5: he can make some real contributions in the run game too,

1459
01:05:02,800 --> 01:05:05,840
Speaker 5: getting him out in space, leading the way, leading the charge.

1460
01:05:06,440 --> 01:05:07,360
Speaker 5: It's an exciting pick.

1461
01:05:07,520 --> 01:05:09,840
Speaker 2: The word over the last two years on how the

1462
01:05:09,840 --> 01:05:13,200
Speaker 2: Patriots treated left tackle was neglect. That was the word.

1463
01:05:13,200 --> 01:05:16,960
Speaker 2: I've heard a lot of people say they've neglected that position.

1464
01:05:17,240 --> 01:05:19,400
Speaker 2: So you can't say that right now now. They used

1465
01:05:19,440 --> 01:05:23,160
Speaker 2: the fourth overall pick on a left tackle, so they

1466
01:05:23,160 --> 01:05:27,280
Speaker 2: are telling us, yes, we agree, it's a need and

1467
01:05:27,600 --> 01:05:30,000
Speaker 2: we got the best left tackle in this draft.

1468
01:05:30,080 --> 01:05:32,160
Speaker 6: Ye, it always came down to that for me, the

1469
01:05:32,600 --> 01:05:35,680
Speaker 6: marriage between the gaping hole on the left side of

1470
01:05:35,720 --> 01:05:38,840
Speaker 6: your offensive line and having a player like Will Campbell

1471
01:05:39,120 --> 01:05:42,600
Speaker 6: who exemplifies everything that Mike Rabel wants to represent in

1472
01:05:42,640 --> 01:05:45,760
Speaker 6: a football program from a toughness, in leadership and in

1473
01:05:45,800 --> 01:05:48,480
Speaker 6: tangible standpoint, and also is a very good player at

1474
01:05:48,480 --> 01:05:51,280
Speaker 6: the position as well. Like du said, there's going to

1475
01:05:51,360 --> 01:05:53,680
Speaker 6: be concerns. We're going to talk about arm length, We're

1476
01:05:53,680 --> 01:05:55,280
Speaker 6: going to talk about you know, is he going to

1477
01:05:55,400 --> 01:05:58,200
Speaker 6: last outside, and all those different types of things. But

1478
01:05:58,360 --> 01:06:01,920
Speaker 6: over my entire career, this football team they have had

1479
01:06:01,960 --> 01:06:05,480
Speaker 6: a need at left tackle for eight straight drafts. They

1480
01:06:05,480 --> 01:06:07,600
Speaker 6: have had a need at left tackle. They have never

1481
01:06:07,680 --> 01:06:10,400
Speaker 6: found a solution. They've gone year to year, They've kicked

1482
01:06:10,400 --> 01:06:13,480
Speaker 6: the can down the road numerous times, and at some

1483
01:06:13,600 --> 01:06:15,760
Speaker 6: point the bucks got to stop, like you gotta find

1484
01:06:15,800 --> 01:06:18,440
Speaker 6: an answer at one of the most important positions on

1485
01:06:18,480 --> 01:06:20,920
Speaker 6: the football team. And I believe that they have. And

1486
01:06:20,960 --> 01:06:23,120
Speaker 6: I'll just say one last thing. Two years in a

1487
01:06:23,200 --> 01:06:27,040
Speaker 6: row of watching horrible offensive line play in this region,

1488
01:06:27,320 --> 01:06:32,080
Speaker 6: just watching quarterbacks get really under pressure at an alarming rate,

1489
01:06:32,160 --> 01:06:34,760
Speaker 6: you know, forty to fifty percent pressure rates weekend and

1490
01:06:34,800 --> 01:06:37,840
Speaker 6: week out. They had to protect the franchise, and Drake

1491
01:06:37,920 --> 01:06:40,080
Speaker 6: May is the franchise, and now they have a guy

1492
01:06:40,080 --> 01:06:40,919
Speaker 6: that can protect them.

1493
01:06:41,120 --> 01:06:41,360
Speaker 7: Yep.

1494
01:06:41,800 --> 01:06:44,800
Speaker 2: So Will Campbell is a New England Patriot. I'm excited.

1495
01:06:44,920 --> 01:06:48,160
Speaker 2: I'm kind of falling in love with this guy.

1496
01:06:48,600 --> 01:06:49,680
Speaker 6: I really am easy too.

1497
01:06:49,720 --> 01:06:51,040
Speaker 5: He's easy to fall in love. I mean, like I

1498
01:06:51,080 --> 01:06:53,200
Speaker 5: said early in the process, the second I heard him talk,

1499
01:06:53,240 --> 01:06:55,000
Speaker 5: I mean, he sounds like to me like Taylor Lawan,

1500
01:06:55,040 --> 01:06:57,360
Speaker 5: who was you know, had a really close relationship with

1501
01:06:57,400 --> 01:06:59,680
Speaker 5: Mike Frabel and Tennessee continues to have a close relationship

1502
01:06:59,720 --> 01:07:02,560
Speaker 5: with him. He's just that kind of guy. He's that

1503
01:07:02,960 --> 01:07:05,600
Speaker 5: offensive lineman and there was a deer hunter too. He's

1504
01:07:05,640 --> 01:07:08,040
Speaker 5: got a little bit of that Mankins in him, and

1505
01:07:08,080 --> 01:07:09,880
Speaker 5: I just I just love the energy he's gonna bring

1506
01:07:09,920 --> 01:07:12,040
Speaker 5: to that room. That room has been beaten up, and

1507
01:07:12,320 --> 01:07:14,600
Speaker 5: honestly deservedly so with with how it went the last

1508
01:07:14,640 --> 01:07:18,000
Speaker 5: couple of years. But the rejuvenation that I think he's

1509
01:07:18,000 --> 01:07:20,000
Speaker 5: going to bring to that group and that toughness, and

1510
01:07:20,320 --> 01:07:22,560
Speaker 5: I just think that alone will do a lot for

1511
01:07:22,600 --> 01:07:24,520
Speaker 5: a room that really really needs that kind of presence.

1512
01:07:25,000 --> 01:07:28,919
Speaker 2: So at some point. Let's let's uh, well, first let's

1513
01:07:28,920 --> 01:07:30,720
Speaker 2: go back up to the party and let's see what

1514
01:07:30,760 --> 01:07:33,240
Speaker 2: the reaction is up at the Patriot No. Oh, I'm

1515
01:07:33,240 --> 01:07:36,880
Speaker 2: getting ahead. Nod. No, we can't do that. Not happening.

1516
01:07:36,960 --> 01:07:39,040
Speaker 5: Okay, A little glimpse at the Patriots draft from.

1517
01:07:38,960 --> 01:07:43,000
Speaker 2: Here, Yeah yeah, yeah. So we see Mike Rabel on

1518
01:07:43,040 --> 01:07:46,560
Speaker 2: the phone. Behind him is John Stryker.

1519
01:07:46,680 --> 01:07:50,360
Speaker 10: Okay, and here comes Roger Goodell to the podium in

1520
01:07:50,440 --> 01:07:52,480
Speaker 10: the process of being sneakers.

1521
01:07:54,400 --> 01:07:58,120
Speaker 23: We're the fourth pick in the twenty five NFL Draft,

1522
01:07:58,960 --> 01:08:00,000
Speaker 23: the New England Patriot.

1523
01:08:00,120 --> 01:08:04,800
Speaker 2: It's like Will Campbell deck on us here.

1524
01:08:05,800 --> 01:08:08,320
Speaker 4: So the Patriots decide to go for protection.

1525
01:08:08,400 --> 01:08:13,280
Speaker 24: Were diamond in the rough quarterback rather than anything else.

1526
01:08:13,320 --> 01:08:15,680
Speaker 1: Your thoughts, Daniel Jeremiah of all the teams.

1527
01:08:15,400 --> 01:08:17,840
Speaker 25: In this draft, to me, the tackle need for the

1528
01:08:17,880 --> 01:08:22,160
Speaker 25: Patriots clearing across all thirty two teams, they had to

1529
01:08:22,200 --> 01:08:24,160
Speaker 25: go in this direction. They go with Will Campbell out

1530
01:08:24,160 --> 01:08:25,160
Speaker 25: of LSU.

1531
01:08:25,439 --> 01:08:27,240
Speaker 2: It reminded me a lot of Michael rus.

1532
01:08:27,080 --> 01:08:29,160
Speaker 25: Going the way back machine as you remember him playing

1533
01:08:29,200 --> 01:08:30,400
Speaker 25: for the Tennessee Tities.

1534
01:08:30,840 --> 01:08:31,519
Speaker 4: Very smooth.

1535
01:08:31,600 --> 01:08:33,680
Speaker 25: He's played a lot of football. He started as soon

1536
01:08:33,680 --> 01:08:37,200
Speaker 25: as he got on campus. There at LSU. When guys

1537
01:08:37,200 --> 01:08:39,160
Speaker 25: get into him, he does have a firm base. He

1538
01:08:39,200 --> 01:08:40,439
Speaker 25: can recover as well.

1539
01:08:41,040 --> 01:08:43,480
Speaker 2: The temperament to finish is outstanding.

1540
01:08:43,560 --> 01:08:45,320
Speaker 25: You see that here in the run game, as he's

1541
01:08:45,360 --> 01:08:49,000
Speaker 25: able to displace defenders and create a lot of movement

1542
01:08:49,040 --> 01:08:50,200
Speaker 25: they're at the point of attack.

1543
01:08:50,320 --> 01:08:51,800
Speaker 22: Much was made about the arm length.

1544
01:08:52,200 --> 01:08:52,840
Speaker 7: Does he need to.

1545
01:08:52,800 --> 01:08:54,760
Speaker 2: Slide in and play guard. I think he can.

1546
01:08:54,720 --> 01:08:55,679
Speaker 1: Hold up at tackle.

1547
01:08:56,040 --> 01:08:57,480
Speaker 18: But in an absolute.

1548
01:08:57,200 --> 01:09:02,120
Speaker 2: Worst case scenario, you've got a Campbell's walking up to

1549
01:09:02,160 --> 01:09:04,439
Speaker 2: the Young podium and it's just inside he just wants

1550
01:09:04,479 --> 01:09:05,200
Speaker 2: to out.

1551
01:09:06,000 --> 01:09:09,839
Speaker 6: I mean he had Yeah. So there was some reporting

1552
01:09:09,880 --> 01:09:12,479
Speaker 6: from Jeremy Fowler, like a couple hours ago, right before

1553
01:09:12,520 --> 01:09:15,800
Speaker 6: the draft, that the Patriots, a contingent from the Patriots

1554
01:09:16,120 --> 01:09:19,559
Speaker 6: went down to Baton Rouge, Louisiana and met one last

1555
01:09:19,560 --> 01:09:21,839
Speaker 6: time with Will Campbell a couple of days.

1556
01:09:21,640 --> 01:09:23,479
Speaker 2: Ago, spent some quality time with him.

1557
01:09:23,520 --> 01:09:26,120
Speaker 6: Typically, when that happens, it means that you're just kind

1558
01:09:26,120 --> 01:09:29,040
Speaker 6: of dotting your eyes there, dotting your eyes and crossing

1559
01:09:29,040 --> 01:09:32,160
Speaker 6: your t's on the pick. I remember hearing a story

1560
01:09:32,160 --> 01:09:35,000
Speaker 6: similar about Christian Gonzalez about a week before the draft

1561
01:09:35,040 --> 01:09:36,920
Speaker 6: that they went out to Oregon and did the same thing.

1562
01:09:36,960 --> 01:09:39,479
Speaker 2: Well they did it with Nate Solder like a day before.

1563
01:09:39,720 --> 01:09:42,720
Speaker 6: Yeah, so this is uh, this has been expected, as

1564
01:09:42,720 --> 01:09:44,640
Speaker 6: we all know, it's been expected for a while. But

1565
01:09:45,120 --> 01:09:47,680
Speaker 6: again I I I know there's gonna be concerns, uh

1566
01:09:47,960 --> 01:09:49,800
Speaker 6: with some of the arm length stuff that's come out,

1567
01:09:50,360 --> 01:09:53,360
Speaker 6: But like Daniel Jeremiah just said, it was a great athlete,

1568
01:09:53,479 --> 01:09:56,680
Speaker 6: a smooth pass protector, great technique. They'll be able to

1569
01:09:56,680 --> 01:09:57,240
Speaker 6: figure it out.

1570
01:09:58,240 --> 01:09:58,640
Speaker 7: We did it.

1571
01:09:58,800 --> 01:10:01,120
Speaker 2: Yeah it wasn't quite you know.

1572
01:10:01,800 --> 01:10:01,880
Speaker 26: Uh.

1573
01:10:02,000 --> 01:10:05,439
Speaker 2: All right, here's Theatress Draft party on NFL Network.

1574
01:10:05,720 --> 01:10:07,680
Speaker 5: Now, Fred, I'm so glad you noticed that moment and

1575
01:10:08,000 --> 01:10:09,960
Speaker 5: like to me that these are the moments that are

1576
01:10:10,000 --> 01:10:11,960
Speaker 5: some of my favorite times during the draft. We're just

1577
01:10:12,040 --> 01:10:14,280
Speaker 5: noticing Will Campbell walking out and you could just see

1578
01:10:14,320 --> 01:10:17,320
Speaker 5: it all sinking in, like and even just the look

1579
01:10:17,400 --> 01:10:18,000
Speaker 5: wants to start.

1580
01:10:18,280 --> 01:10:19,479
Speaker 7: Like, man, it's like a.

1581
01:10:19,520 --> 01:10:21,439
Speaker 5: Kid living their dream right now. He's been waiting for

1582
01:10:21,479 --> 01:10:24,599
Speaker 5: this moment, doing that long walk to the stage. Really cool.

1583
01:10:24,720 --> 01:10:26,519
Speaker 2: And I think a guy like that to come on

1584
01:10:26,640 --> 01:10:29,640
Speaker 2: a team coached by a guy like Mike Rabel, I

1585
01:10:29,680 --> 01:10:32,880
Speaker 2: think I think they've from what we've heard, they've already

1586
01:10:32,920 --> 01:10:37,120
Speaker 2: made a connection. And uh, it's it's probably his type

1587
01:10:37,120 --> 01:10:37,559
Speaker 2: of coach.

1588
01:10:38,520 --> 01:10:39,800
Speaker 5: Well, I mean Evan, I mean we have when we

1589
01:10:39,840 --> 01:10:41,599
Speaker 5: had Mike on a couple of times, Evan was bringing

1590
01:10:41,640 --> 01:10:43,280
Speaker 5: up the chess pad and I mean, how much Brabel

1591
01:10:43,360 --> 01:10:45,720
Speaker 5: likes to get in there engaged with these guys. I mean,

1592
01:10:45,760 --> 01:10:47,960
Speaker 5: it's it's just it's too easy. And we're going to

1593
01:10:48,000 --> 01:10:50,280
Speaker 5: see it, I'm sure as soon as next month with

1594
01:10:50,400 --> 01:10:53,000
Speaker 5: him getting in with with Will Campbell and working on it.

1595
01:10:53,280 --> 01:10:55,360
Speaker 5: He loves working with those guys. It seems like it's

1596
01:10:55,360 --> 01:10:56,320
Speaker 5: a it's a really good match.

1597
01:10:56,640 --> 01:10:59,880
Speaker 6: I know everybody wants, you know about the football player,

1598
01:11:00,120 --> 01:11:02,800
Speaker 6: you know, being but the toughness and the finish and

1599
01:11:02,840 --> 01:11:05,720
Speaker 6: the effort that they talk about, this guy exemplifies all those.

1600
01:11:06,439 --> 01:11:09,160
Speaker 2: He's very right now he's on NFL Network and he's

1601
01:11:09,400 --> 01:11:13,479
Speaker 2: he's very emotional. This means a lot to him, you

1602
01:11:13,520 --> 01:11:17,040
Speaker 2: know what. I everything he does, I like him more

1603
01:11:17,960 --> 01:11:21,000
Speaker 2: like I want somebody that it means a lot to them.

1604
01:11:21,160 --> 01:11:24,559
Speaker 5: Yeah sure, I mean, look at this kid.

1605
01:11:24,880 --> 01:11:26,800
Speaker 2: Look at this kid. How do you not love him?

1606
01:11:27,200 --> 01:11:28,360
Speaker 2: Come on, let's go.

1607
01:11:28,640 --> 01:11:30,160
Speaker 5: And I mean, and how do you not want that

1608
01:11:30,240 --> 01:11:31,519
Speaker 5: kind of guy protecting Drake?

1609
01:11:32,200 --> 01:11:34,400
Speaker 2: And he's kid that you know my job is to

1610
01:11:34,439 --> 01:11:37,439
Speaker 2: protect that quarterback. I will do whatever it takes to

1611
01:11:37,520 --> 01:11:41,479
Speaker 2: not get him on the ground. We got ourselves a

1612
01:11:41,479 --> 01:11:42,280
Speaker 2: good player here.

1613
01:11:42,320 --> 01:11:44,760
Speaker 5: You can even see Jamie Erdahl's reaction like she was

1614
01:11:44,840 --> 01:11:46,960
Speaker 5: kind of like a little emotional watching and I'd love

1615
01:11:46,960 --> 01:11:48,240
Speaker 5: to know what she asked him or if it's just

1616
01:11:48,240 --> 01:11:50,320
Speaker 5: all sunk in at that moment. I mean, we probably

1617
01:11:50,320 --> 01:11:52,040
Speaker 5: were talking about the early moments when he's walking to

1618
01:11:52,080 --> 01:11:54,679
Speaker 5: the stage of it all hitting him, all the questions

1619
01:11:54,720 --> 01:11:56,519
Speaker 5: about his arms that he's to have to answer the

1620
01:11:56,560 --> 01:11:59,439
Speaker 5: last three months. It's over. He's a patriot, He's going

1621
01:11:59,479 --> 01:12:01,080
Speaker 5: to be on his way up here tomorrow, will be

1622
01:12:01,080 --> 01:12:01,400
Speaker 5: on the.

1623
01:12:01,320 --> 01:12:01,880
Speaker 1: Stage with him.

1624
01:12:04,680 --> 01:12:04,960
Speaker 2: What's that?

1625
01:12:06,680 --> 01:12:07,000
Speaker 1: All right?

1626
01:12:07,080 --> 01:12:09,439
Speaker 2: Let's go to Alex right now, let's get some fan reaction.

1627
01:12:11,200 --> 01:12:14,800
Speaker 8: Go ahead, Alex, Hey, guys, how are you doing? I'm

1628
01:12:14,800 --> 01:12:18,599
Speaker 8: here with that Andy Ray, Andrew Crook, Andrew how many

1629
01:12:18,600 --> 01:12:19,679
Speaker 8: but heavies have you had?

1630
01:12:21,760 --> 01:12:22,519
Speaker 22: Does it matter?

1631
01:12:24,840 --> 01:12:26,360
Speaker 5: You seem don't matter?

1632
01:12:26,920 --> 01:12:31,000
Speaker 27: And let's will gamble. There's laying people on their back.

1633
01:12:31,640 --> 01:12:33,439
Speaker 22: Will all.

1634
01:12:33,560 --> 01:12:37,880
Speaker 27: I gearing about one thing and you know one left.

1635
01:12:37,920 --> 01:12:41,320
Speaker 27: It is like do it to me by my friends

1636
01:12:41,400 --> 01:12:44,160
Speaker 27: football goat, It's don't.

1637
01:12:44,000 --> 01:12:47,200
Speaker 2: Gay, You're how to pick them out.

1638
01:12:48,200 --> 01:12:50,719
Speaker 17: Will Okay, good job.

1639
01:12:50,640 --> 01:12:53,880
Speaker 22: Alex, I thought I thought I did a good job too.

1640
01:12:54,000 --> 01:12:54,160
Speaker 28: Right.

1641
01:12:54,680 --> 01:12:55,639
Speaker 2: Who else do we have?

1642
01:12:58,200 --> 01:13:00,400
Speaker 22: Tell us your name Michael growth.

1643
01:13:00,680 --> 01:13:01,200
Speaker 7: This is Mike.

1644
01:13:01,400 --> 01:13:01,639
Speaker 5: Mike.

1645
01:13:01,680 --> 01:13:03,639
Speaker 22: How are you feeling coming into this pick?

1646
01:13:03,880 --> 01:13:04,920
Speaker 6: And how do you feel?

1647
01:13:05,040 --> 01:13:06,240
Speaker 7: I knew we're going to pick him.

1648
01:13:06,400 --> 01:13:07,400
Speaker 5: Well, we'll see how he goes.

1649
01:13:07,760 --> 01:13:08,639
Speaker 22: I hope he does good.

1650
01:13:09,040 --> 01:13:11,920
Speaker 6: It's not the flashy pick, but it's it's in need, right.

1651
01:13:12,040 --> 01:13:13,040
Speaker 22: It's definitely need.

1652
01:13:13,120 --> 01:13:16,400
Speaker 7: But we'll see. You know's a nice pick. I hope

1653
01:13:16,400 --> 01:13:18,280
Speaker 7: he pants out, all right?

1654
01:13:19,400 --> 01:13:21,400
Speaker 5: So I can't argue with the vibes are high.

1655
01:13:21,640 --> 01:13:22,919
Speaker 22: There are lots of cheers.

1656
01:13:23,200 --> 01:13:24,160
Speaker 2: What was that, Paul I.

1657
01:13:24,160 --> 01:13:25,559
Speaker 7: Said, you can't argue with that? Watch.

1658
01:13:25,720 --> 01:13:26,879
Speaker 5: I hope he pans high.

1659
01:13:29,360 --> 01:13:29,600
Speaker 2: With me?

1660
01:13:33,320 --> 01:13:33,519
Speaker 7: Yeah?

1661
01:13:33,600 --> 01:13:34,280
Speaker 6: Where we mad?

1662
01:13:34,520 --> 01:13:34,680
Speaker 1: Yeah?

1663
01:13:34,800 --> 01:13:35,360
Speaker 6: We mad?

1664
01:13:35,439 --> 01:13:35,799
Speaker 7: Jersey?

1665
01:13:36,040 --> 01:13:37,360
Speaker 2: Okay, all right, all right?

1666
01:13:38,960 --> 01:13:41,519
Speaker 8: So yeah, guys, the vibes are hot, the drinks are flowing.

1667
01:13:41,560 --> 01:13:44,720
Speaker 2: I have one word, uber, You can't make me be

1668
01:13:44,800 --> 01:13:48,599
Speaker 2: careful up there? Alex? Yes, are you driving home today?

1669
01:13:49,040 --> 01:13:49,080
Speaker 25: No?

1670
01:13:49,640 --> 01:13:51,720
Speaker 6: Alex?

1671
01:13:56,640 --> 01:13:57,000
Speaker 2: Okay?

1672
01:13:57,080 --> 01:13:57,799
Speaker 7: All right, Alex?

1673
01:13:57,880 --> 01:13:58,920
Speaker 5: So that guy swimming you.

1674
01:13:58,960 --> 01:14:00,760
Speaker 8: Don't want to snow where you.

1675
01:14:01,680 --> 01:14:05,599
Speaker 29: It's like I said, so I just tell all right,

1676
01:14:05,720 --> 01:14:07,920
Speaker 29: So I just Alex, have fun I think I want

1677
01:14:07,960 --> 01:14:10,320
Speaker 29: to use this time to openly apologize to my good

1678
01:14:10,320 --> 01:14:15,000
Speaker 29: friend Evan Lazare for talking so positively about Cleveland's trade.

1679
01:14:15,120 --> 01:14:19,160
Speaker 7: They took Mason Graham, Oh wow, Like I just that

1680
01:14:19,360 --> 01:14:21,439
Speaker 7: I don't understand. Wow, I don't understand.

1681
01:14:21,560 --> 01:14:24,880
Speaker 2: Okay, Well, listen, a lot of people really like Mason Graham,

1682
01:14:24,880 --> 01:14:28,200
Speaker 2: and when I started my process, I really like Mason Graham.

1683
01:14:28,280 --> 01:14:31,320
Speaker 2: I still like Mason Graham. I know he's a little undersized,

1684
01:14:31,360 --> 01:14:35,040
Speaker 2: but I I you know, I'm I want Will Campbell

1685
01:14:35,040 --> 01:14:37,280
Speaker 2: over Mason Graham. But I wouldn't mind Mason Graham on

1686
01:14:37,280 --> 01:14:38,200
Speaker 2: the New England Patriots.

1687
01:14:38,240 --> 01:14:41,479
Speaker 6: If I was a Browns fan right now, I am glad,

1688
01:14:41,479 --> 01:14:44,280
Speaker 6: I am not. I would be absolutely irate with the

1689
01:14:44,400 --> 01:14:46,760
Speaker 6: decisions that they just made. Now, you can sell me

1690
01:14:46,800 --> 01:14:49,160
Speaker 6: on twenty twenty six all you want. But they drafted

1691
01:14:49,360 --> 01:14:53,160
Speaker 6: an undersized three technique at five overall over Travis Hunter

1692
01:14:53,200 --> 01:14:54,720
Speaker 6: and Abdul Carter. Like they made the.

1693
01:14:55,520 --> 01:14:57,759
Speaker 5: Actual decision to do that tonight.

1694
01:14:57,920 --> 01:15:00,679
Speaker 6: Yeah, hey, like they decided that was the best move

1695
01:15:00,720 --> 01:15:03,439
Speaker 6: for the franchise. Now they're gonna sell them on twenty

1696
01:15:03,479 --> 01:15:06,120
Speaker 6: twenty six. They're gonna go after a quarterback in twenty

1697
01:15:06,160 --> 01:15:08,240
Speaker 6: twenty six. They have two first round picks to make

1698
01:15:08,280 --> 01:15:10,720
Speaker 6: it happen. But if you're just looking at what they

1699
01:15:10,760 --> 01:15:13,360
Speaker 6: did tonight, you know, going down from two to five,

1700
01:15:13,560 --> 01:15:16,000
Speaker 6: and then you don't you passed on Genty as well,

1701
01:15:16,080 --> 01:15:19,240
Speaker 6: So you took Mason Graham here at five overall to

1702
01:15:19,400 --> 01:15:22,519
Speaker 6: do what to stuff the run? Like, I just I

1703
01:15:22,800 --> 01:15:23,519
Speaker 6: can't really figure.

1704
01:15:23,520 --> 01:15:26,920
Speaker 7: I've had a reasoning for being sort of enthused about

1705
01:15:26,960 --> 01:15:31,519
Speaker 7: that trade for the Browns. They was, You're gonna like

1706
01:15:31,600 --> 01:15:34,160
Speaker 7: you slide down a few spots and you lose out

1707
01:15:34,280 --> 01:15:37,439
Speaker 7: maybe on like the diamond of Travis Hunter, but you

1708
01:15:37,479 --> 01:15:42,280
Speaker 7: get like Ashton Genty or even Ty Warren right to

1709
01:15:42,360 --> 01:15:46,600
Speaker 7: get an interior defensive line Like I don't. I'm not

1710
01:15:46,640 --> 01:15:48,479
Speaker 7: sent telling you that Mason Graham's a bad player. I

1711
01:15:48,479 --> 01:15:51,160
Speaker 7: don't think he is a bad player, But I just

1712
01:15:52,040 --> 01:15:55,519
Speaker 7: you passed up special. I thought you were going to

1713
01:15:55,600 --> 01:15:59,360
Speaker 7: try to get Special like I don't think Maybe I

1714
01:15:59,360 --> 01:16:01,439
Speaker 7: think Ashton has a chance to be a blue chip

1715
01:16:01,479 --> 01:16:02,879
Speaker 7: player draft Yeah.

1716
01:16:02,680 --> 01:16:05,800
Speaker 2: Okay, if you're like, I can't argue with that.

1717
01:16:05,840 --> 01:16:07,920
Speaker 6: You know it's the Perton time to take Ashton Genty.

1718
01:16:07,920 --> 01:16:10,360
Speaker 6: You got the package to trade down, and you just

1719
01:16:10,400 --> 01:16:11,400
Speaker 6: take the blue chip player.

1720
01:16:11,479 --> 01:16:13,439
Speaker 7: You know that someone's probably gonna say, and you'd be

1721
01:16:13,560 --> 01:16:15,600
Speaker 7: right if you did. Paul, you're being a hypocrite. You

1722
01:16:15,600 --> 01:16:17,920
Speaker 7: hate running back, and you'd be right to say that.

1723
01:16:18,000 --> 01:16:22,559
Speaker 7: I'm just I'm talking about just as your talent perspective here. Okay,

1724
01:16:22,600 --> 01:16:25,800
Speaker 7: you passed up a special talent in Travis Hunter, but

1725
01:16:25,840 --> 01:16:29,160
Speaker 7: you're gonna take a special talent in Ashton Genty, even

1726
01:16:29,200 --> 01:16:31,439
Speaker 7: if it's a position that I don't think as as

1727
01:16:31,479 --> 01:16:35,320
Speaker 7: as important. I don't think an interior defensive lineman is

1728
01:16:35,320 --> 01:16:38,080
Speaker 7: a special talent unless it's Chris Jones or Aaron Donald.

1729
01:16:38,120 --> 01:16:40,080
Speaker 7: And I'm sorry, I don't think Mason Graham is going

1730
01:16:40,120 --> 01:16:40,320
Speaker 7: to be.

1731
01:16:40,360 --> 01:16:44,280
Speaker 10: That Ye interesting, Well, we don't have to turn this

1732
01:16:44,320 --> 01:16:45,800
Speaker 10: into Cleveland Brown, can I?

1733
01:16:47,200 --> 01:16:47,360
Speaker 7: Well?

1734
01:16:47,400 --> 01:16:50,160
Speaker 6: At six overall, just to say quickly that the Raiders

1735
01:16:50,160 --> 01:16:51,160
Speaker 6: did take Ashon Genty.

1736
01:16:52,520 --> 01:16:54,960
Speaker 2: All right, let's go to Mike Rabel with the media.

1737
01:16:56,560 --> 01:17:00,080
Speaker 24: You know, this is uh, this is a young player

1738
01:17:00,360 --> 01:17:04,240
Speaker 24: who cares deeply about the team.

1739
01:17:04,280 --> 01:17:05,840
Speaker 1: You know, is a leader in that room.

1740
01:17:06,960 --> 01:17:11,840
Speaker 24: And but to compare him to me or anybody else, no,

1741
01:17:11,960 --> 01:17:15,879
Speaker 24: I mean, but we love his football character, his play demeanor,

1742
01:17:16,439 --> 01:17:21,400
Speaker 24: his play style, how coachable he is and and you

1743
01:17:21,439 --> 01:17:24,400
Speaker 24: know a twenty one year old, you know, player that's

1744
01:17:24,439 --> 01:17:26,639
Speaker 24: started thirty eight or forty games in the SEC.

1745
01:17:26,880 --> 01:17:30,040
Speaker 1: Is is something that you know is impressive.

1746
01:17:30,520 --> 01:17:34,479
Speaker 11: Mike lennonhow that will cement himself as the pick for

1747
01:17:34,560 --> 01:17:35,719
Speaker 11: you guys in this process?

1748
01:17:37,520 --> 01:17:40,840
Speaker 2: Well, I think probably okay, So we're gonna go out

1749
01:17:40,840 --> 01:17:43,920
Speaker 2: of Rabel. We're gonna go to Cam Williams, uh, director

1750
01:17:44,000 --> 01:17:47,840
Speaker 2: of college scouting for the Patriots. Uh, we'll have Mike

1751
01:17:47,960 --> 01:17:51,120
Speaker 2: Rabel in its entirety. After we speak with Cam, Cam,

1752
01:17:51,160 --> 01:17:51,800
Speaker 2: how you doing?

1753
01:17:52,800 --> 01:17:55,040
Speaker 22: How are we doing? Team?

1754
01:17:53,920 --> 01:17:58,639
Speaker 7: We gave ourselves a congratulations after we made a pick

1755
01:17:58,720 --> 01:18:00,200
Speaker 7: because I know that's what you're supposed to do in

1756
01:18:00,240 --> 01:18:02,160
Speaker 7: the war room. So we wanted to be away you.

1757
01:18:02,040 --> 01:18:05,080
Speaker 22: Guys, that's the way to do it. We're having fun

1758
01:18:05,120 --> 01:18:05,519
Speaker 22: in there.

1759
01:18:05,840 --> 01:18:09,080
Speaker 2: So as they say in in the betting world. Uh,

1760
01:18:09,320 --> 01:18:11,800
Speaker 2: so far the draft has been shocked one through four.

1761
01:18:12,600 --> 01:18:14,679
Speaker 2: We all thought you guys were gonna take Will Campbell.

1762
01:18:14,840 --> 01:18:18,880
Speaker 2: You took Will Campbell. How excited are you? And have

1763
01:18:18,960 --> 01:18:21,000
Speaker 2: you talked with Will yet? And how excited is he?

1764
01:18:21,240 --> 01:18:22,040
Speaker 2: Or is it too soon?

1765
01:18:23,200 --> 01:18:26,320
Speaker 22: We're pumped. We are absolutely pumped. He's he's a stud.

1766
01:18:27,200 --> 01:18:29,479
Speaker 30: He we did a ton of work on him, starting

1767
01:18:29,520 --> 01:18:33,120
Speaker 30: with Alex Brooks, our area scout in the Southwest. You know,

1768
01:18:33,160 --> 01:18:36,000
Speaker 30: we followed him along the way and and he checked

1769
01:18:36,000 --> 01:18:38,200
Speaker 30: so many boxes for us and it became a no

1770
01:18:38,280 --> 01:18:41,080
Speaker 30: brainer and just just really excited. I talked to him,

1771
01:18:41,120 --> 01:18:44,439
Speaker 30: I called him when you know, we were we made

1772
01:18:44,479 --> 01:18:47,360
Speaker 30: the decision to pick him, and he was excited. And

1773
01:18:47,680 --> 01:18:49,840
Speaker 30: you know, he was pretty stoic when I first got

1774
01:18:49,920 --> 01:18:51,439
Speaker 30: on the line, but it looked like he got really

1775
01:18:51,479 --> 01:18:53,519
Speaker 30: emotional in the interview once he hit the stage, so

1776
01:18:53,560 --> 01:18:54,080
Speaker 30: it was pretty cool.

1777
01:18:54,160 --> 01:18:55,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, that was That was my next question. I wonder

1778
01:18:56,000 --> 01:18:59,000
Speaker 2: if you saw that, because I love that. That tells

1779
01:18:59,040 --> 01:19:02,000
Speaker 2: me he he's as excited about being here as we

1780
01:19:02,040 --> 01:19:04,559
Speaker 2: are about having him here. And that's what you want,

1781
01:19:04,680 --> 01:19:07,880
Speaker 2: right you want players who who just want to who

1782
01:19:07,960 --> 01:19:08,720
Speaker 2: love football.

1783
01:19:10,200 --> 01:19:12,960
Speaker 30: Yeah, we definitely felt you know, for me, I felt

1784
01:19:12,960 --> 01:19:16,160
Speaker 30: a connection with him and it felt mutual that he

1785
01:19:16,240 --> 01:19:18,640
Speaker 30: wanted to be here, and he was fired up to

1786
01:19:19,320 --> 01:19:22,720
Speaker 30: play left tackle, and you know, he was excited to

1787
01:19:23,479 --> 01:19:26,519
Speaker 30: help our team. So there was, you know, a definite

1788
01:19:26,520 --> 01:19:29,880
Speaker 30: connection that he had here and he embraced that.

1789
01:19:30,560 --> 01:19:33,200
Speaker 6: Kim, you just mentioned it, play left tackle. I think

1790
01:19:33,240 --> 01:19:35,320
Speaker 6: you know, that's that's been a big question about will

1791
01:19:35,360 --> 01:19:38,120
Speaker 6: And I assume you guys have evaluated him the entire

1792
01:19:38,160 --> 01:19:39,320
Speaker 6: time as a left tackle.

1793
01:19:41,200 --> 01:19:43,320
Speaker 30: Yeah, that's that's where he played, and you know that's

1794
01:19:43,560 --> 01:19:47,240
Speaker 30: you know, that's that's where he's comfortable. So that's about

1795
01:19:47,280 --> 01:19:50,240
Speaker 30: my pay grade where he's gonna play. But I thought

1796
01:19:50,240 --> 01:19:52,240
Speaker 30: he was a really good left tackle when I scouted him,

1797
01:19:52,280 --> 01:19:54,120
Speaker 30: and and I thought he could do that.

1798
01:19:54,320 --> 01:19:56,280
Speaker 6: Yeah, what made you think that he was a really

1799
01:19:56,280 --> 01:19:58,439
Speaker 6: good left tackle? Just some of the specifics that you

1800
01:19:58,479 --> 01:19:59,200
Speaker 6: saw on the tape.

1801
01:20:00,320 --> 01:20:03,240
Speaker 30: Yeah, he checks a lot of the boxes. Man, He's

1802
01:20:03,280 --> 01:20:07,679
Speaker 30: he's big, he's athletic, he's really instinctive. He's just he's

1803
01:20:07,720 --> 01:20:09,960
Speaker 30: so advanced for a player at that age. He's only

1804
01:20:09,960 --> 01:20:13,080
Speaker 30: twenty one years. He's a true junior. But for a

1805
01:20:13,080 --> 01:20:15,880
Speaker 30: guy at his with his youth, he's played a lot

1806
01:20:15,880 --> 01:20:18,120
Speaker 30: of football in the SEC, with multiple, you know, over

1807
01:20:18,160 --> 01:20:20,960
Speaker 30: thirty five starts in that SEC playing left tackle. So

1808
01:20:21,920 --> 01:20:26,000
Speaker 30: he's just a really consistent, dependable, high level pass protector

1809
01:20:26,120 --> 01:20:29,200
Speaker 30: that gives you a ton of nastiness and physicality in

1810
01:20:29,200 --> 01:20:31,800
Speaker 30: the run game and plays with the play demeanor that

1811
01:20:31,800 --> 01:20:32,519
Speaker 30: that we would want.

1812
01:20:32,600 --> 01:20:34,479
Speaker 2: So he checked a.

1813
01:20:34,439 --> 01:20:35,080
Speaker 22: Lot of boxes.

1814
01:20:35,400 --> 01:20:37,360
Speaker 5: Could you talk a little more about that play demeanor. Cam,

1815
01:20:37,360 --> 01:20:39,080
Speaker 5: it seems talking to some of your coaches here the

1816
01:20:39,120 --> 01:20:41,040
Speaker 5: last couple of weeks we hear a lot about violence

1817
01:20:41,040 --> 01:20:42,559
Speaker 5: and that's what they look for. It seems like Will

1818
01:20:42,640 --> 01:20:44,000
Speaker 5: Campbell's got that for a tackle.

1819
01:20:44,840 --> 01:20:48,400
Speaker 30: Yeah, he oozes toughness like you see it on tape,

1820
01:20:48,600 --> 01:20:52,719
Speaker 30: The way he finishes plays through the whistle, the violence

1821
01:20:52,720 --> 01:20:55,200
Speaker 30: that he plays with his hands and and and he continues.

1822
01:20:55,760 --> 01:20:57,960
Speaker 22: I mean, he'll drive his legs through players.

1823
01:20:58,160 --> 01:21:02,080
Speaker 30: He's a he's a clean player, but he's he's a nasty, physical,

1824
01:21:02,120 --> 01:21:04,320
Speaker 30: offensivelignment and that's you know, he's wired the way you

1825
01:21:04,360 --> 01:21:06,240
Speaker 30: want them to be wired.

1826
01:21:06,479 --> 01:21:08,800
Speaker 2: All right, Cam, I know you've got work to do.

1827
01:21:09,320 --> 01:21:11,040
Speaker 2: The night's not over yet, so we're gonna let you

1828
01:21:11,120 --> 01:21:14,000
Speaker 2: get back to the war room. But congratulations on the pick.

1829
01:21:14,920 --> 01:21:16,880
Speaker 22: I appreciate it, looking forward to it, all right.

1830
01:21:16,920 --> 01:21:19,799
Speaker 2: Thanks for joining. It's Cam Williams. It's Cam uh director

1831
01:21:19,840 --> 01:21:22,000
Speaker 2: of college scouting for the New England Patriots. Thank you

1832
01:21:22,000 --> 01:21:25,320
Speaker 2: for joining us. And you know, once we have it

1833
01:21:25,400 --> 01:21:28,800
Speaker 2: queued up and Rabel's done, well, we'll get him. So Matt,

1834
01:21:28,880 --> 01:21:30,599
Speaker 2: you know, no no rush, Just let me know when

1835
01:21:30,600 --> 01:21:31,040
Speaker 2: you're ready.

1836
01:21:31,080 --> 01:21:31,320
Speaker 7: To go.

1837
01:21:31,400 --> 01:21:34,559
Speaker 2: So we also want to get Rabel's take on the pick.

1838
01:21:35,439 --> 01:21:37,360
Speaker 5: Guys, you a quick aside. I'm still can't get over

1839
01:21:37,439 --> 01:21:39,360
Speaker 5: that guy that probably spent an hour to two hours

1840
01:21:39,360 --> 01:21:41,639
Speaker 5: painting his whole head. Knew it was gonna be Will Campbell,

1841
01:21:41,640 --> 01:21:43,080
Speaker 5: and he's like, yeah, we'll see, Yeah.

1842
01:21:42,960 --> 01:21:44,599
Speaker 2: We'll see.

1843
01:21:45,240 --> 01:21:47,439
Speaker 7: Maybe he'll pan out. Yeah, maybe it'll pan out.

1844
01:21:47,439 --> 01:21:47,800
Speaker 6: Sorry, I just.

1845
01:21:47,800 --> 01:21:48,720
Speaker 5: Couldn't get that on my head.

1846
01:21:48,720 --> 01:21:49,639
Speaker 6: That's what's sticking out to.

1847
01:21:49,600 --> 01:21:52,360
Speaker 2: You, all painted up for us, like you just hope that.

1848
01:21:52,400 --> 01:21:53,920
Speaker 5: We can't get too excited, you know, we just got

1849
01:21:53,960 --> 01:21:55,920
Speaker 5: to see how pans out. I'm gonna get taken out.

1850
01:21:56,200 --> 01:21:58,880
Speaker 2: While we were doing all this stuff, the Raiders did

1851
01:21:58,920 --> 01:21:59,840
Speaker 2: pick Ash.

1852
01:22:00,720 --> 01:22:02,920
Speaker 6: Yes, the Jets are on the clock now at seven.

1853
01:22:03,400 --> 01:22:07,160
Speaker 6: Mason Graham ashing genty were the next two picks. I

1854
01:22:07,200 --> 01:22:09,639
Speaker 6: think what Cam said there, you know, well, people layed

1855
01:22:09,720 --> 01:22:12,360
Speaker 6: left tackle like that's where we evaluated him. That seems

1856
01:22:12,400 --> 01:22:15,240
Speaker 6: to be the overwhelming consensus about Will Campbell. I don't

1857
01:22:15,240 --> 01:22:17,800
Speaker 6: think there was a ton of talk amongst teams about

1858
01:22:17,840 --> 01:22:21,479
Speaker 6: ever moving him inside until he fails frankly on the

1859
01:22:21,560 --> 01:22:24,000
Speaker 6: outside right, And I don't think there was ever any

1860
01:22:24,040 --> 01:22:26,479
Speaker 6: real conversations about the arm Land and all that kind

1861
01:22:26,520 --> 01:22:28,960
Speaker 6: of stuff that we all got into on this side

1862
01:22:29,000 --> 01:22:32,639
Speaker 6: of things about him ever playing another position besides left tackle.

1863
01:22:33,000 --> 01:22:35,880
Speaker 6: So I his reaction to that was like, well, yeah,

1864
01:22:35,920 --> 01:22:38,200
Speaker 6: I meanwhere else is he gonna put Because.

1865
01:22:37,960 --> 01:22:40,160
Speaker 2: I've read everything you guys have read about the number

1866
01:22:40,200 --> 01:22:43,519
Speaker 2: of people out you know, below thirty three inches who

1867
01:22:43,520 --> 01:22:45,760
Speaker 2: have made it, you know, have done well. And there's

1868
01:22:45,760 --> 01:22:48,160
Speaker 2: a hand there's like three or four in the last

1869
01:22:48,360 --> 01:22:51,679
Speaker 2: twenty five years or whatever. But how many guys would

1870
01:22:51,760 --> 01:22:55,479
Speaker 2: sub thirty three inch arms were considered first round talents?

1871
01:22:55,800 --> 01:23:00,000
Speaker 2: I mean, in that way, Campbell is an outlier from

1872
01:23:00,120 --> 01:23:01,360
Speaker 2: get from the get go right.

1873
01:23:01,360 --> 01:23:03,760
Speaker 5: Well, I mean he's also an outliar because of his athleticism.

1874
01:23:03,840 --> 01:23:06,760
Speaker 5: I mean, his athleticism score puts him in a you

1875
01:23:06,800 --> 01:23:08,720
Speaker 5: know above I mean I think what it was like

1876
01:23:08,800 --> 01:23:10,880
Speaker 5: fifteenth since nineteen eighty eight in terms of, you know,

1877
01:23:11,000 --> 01:23:13,000
Speaker 5: raw athletic score. What does it mean? I don't know.

1878
01:23:13,080 --> 01:23:15,360
Speaker 5: But if you're gonna have to bet on somebody that

1879
01:23:15,680 --> 01:23:18,280
Speaker 5: maybe has a measurable that's a little bit below the bar,

1880
01:23:18,760 --> 01:23:21,720
Speaker 5: he has the athletic talent that's worth betting on. And

1881
01:23:21,760 --> 01:23:24,040
Speaker 5: I think that's the thing that got lost a little

1882
01:23:24,040 --> 01:23:26,000
Speaker 5: bit over the course of all the draft discussion, is

1883
01:23:26,160 --> 01:23:28,160
Speaker 5: it's just all anyone talked about was his arms and

1884
01:23:28,200 --> 01:23:31,200
Speaker 5: his wingspan and well how long, like you're losing track

1885
01:23:31,200 --> 01:23:33,040
Speaker 5: of the fact that this guy's a really good player.

1886
01:23:33,240 --> 01:23:36,559
Speaker 5: He's got excellent, excellent feet to move with guys and that,

1887
01:23:36,640 --> 01:23:38,200
Speaker 5: you know, and that's the biggest thing at left tackle.

1888
01:23:38,200 --> 01:23:39,720
Speaker 5: I mean, you know, you look at like Vederian Low.

1889
01:23:39,800 --> 01:23:41,519
Speaker 5: I know he's a little bit of a punchline, but

1890
01:23:41,760 --> 01:23:44,080
Speaker 5: you know, still it's just he's not this massive guy.

1891
01:23:44,120 --> 01:23:46,920
Speaker 5: They're looking for athleticism, and that's the thing that I think,

1892
01:23:47,000 --> 01:23:48,840
Speaker 5: you know that Will Campbell really has and that's going

1893
01:23:48,920 --> 01:23:50,559
Speaker 5: to help him and that'll be what he's able to

1894
01:23:50,560 --> 01:23:52,360
Speaker 5: succeed with, is he's moving his feet and be by

1895
01:23:52,400 --> 01:23:52,719
Speaker 5: the steam.

1896
01:23:52,800 --> 01:23:55,439
Speaker 2: I go back to what I've always been saying. From

1897
01:23:55,439 --> 01:23:57,960
Speaker 2: the moment this process started, he was the number one

1898
01:23:58,040 --> 01:24:02,280
Speaker 2: rated tackle and despite all the talk, he hasn't veered

1899
01:24:02,280 --> 01:24:02,479
Speaker 2: from that.

1900
01:24:02,800 --> 01:24:04,280
Speaker 5: I mean, I saw Paul Grimace a little bit, which

1901
01:24:04,479 --> 01:24:08,320
Speaker 5: he likes because I started.

1902
01:24:08,439 --> 01:24:11,799
Speaker 7: I think Will Campbell became the number one tackle again

1903
01:24:11,920 --> 01:24:14,439
Speaker 7: at the combine, kind of like cam Ward. I think

1904
01:24:14,479 --> 01:24:16,680
Speaker 7: Kelvin Banks during the season was considered that, and those

1905
01:24:16,720 --> 01:24:18,519
Speaker 7: two guys were neck and neck in the SEC. They

1906
01:24:18,520 --> 01:24:22,559
Speaker 7: shared a lot of awards. But I just would say

1907
01:24:22,560 --> 01:24:27,200
Speaker 7: that the whole like athleticism thing to me.

1908
01:24:28,040 --> 01:24:30,920
Speaker 2: But that's how you make up for the you know,

1909
01:24:31,040 --> 01:24:32,639
Speaker 2: eighth of an inch shorter arm.

1910
01:24:33,120 --> 01:24:36,400
Speaker 7: I guess I don't know that that's true, but I

1911
01:24:36,800 --> 01:24:40,599
Speaker 7: am concerned. I love this pick because of the obvious reasons.

1912
01:24:40,640 --> 01:24:44,560
Speaker 7: Like I just I wrote about it. Evan said it

1913
01:24:44,600 --> 01:24:47,360
Speaker 7: about twenty minutes ago, like the need is gaping. What

1914
01:24:47,400 --> 01:24:49,800
Speaker 7: did you said, like eight years of draft we've been

1915
01:24:49,800 --> 01:24:52,840
Speaker 7: looking for this and you made a comment that we've

1916
01:24:52,840 --> 01:24:56,240
Speaker 7: been using the word neglect. Yep. This tells you that

1917
01:24:56,320 --> 01:24:58,639
Speaker 7: they know that they've neglected it and they did something

1918
01:24:58,640 --> 01:25:01,160
Speaker 7: about it. I love this pick because of how much

1919
01:25:01,200 --> 01:25:04,479
Speaker 7: of a need it is. But there's a risk that

1920
01:25:04,520 --> 01:25:06,800
Speaker 7: he's not a left tackle and I and I'm not

1921
01:25:07,640 --> 01:25:11,200
Speaker 7: like ignoring that. I'm I am. I am very much

1922
01:25:11,240 --> 01:25:12,040
Speaker 7: into the history.

1923
01:25:12,360 --> 01:25:12,599
Speaker 1: Yep.

1924
01:25:12,960 --> 01:25:17,240
Speaker 7: And thirty three inches or smaller. You can count on

1925
01:25:17,240 --> 01:25:19,160
Speaker 7: one hand the amount of guys even been able to start,

1926
01:25:19,240 --> 01:25:21,920
Speaker 7: let alone succeed. There's been nobody who's been the bble.

1927
01:25:21,600 --> 01:25:24,599
Speaker 2: But this guy has this guy, would you know.

1928
01:25:25,400 --> 01:25:27,800
Speaker 7: Whether you best the best tackle in a bad draft, this.

1929
01:25:27,760 --> 01:25:30,400
Speaker 2: Guy, whether you want to believe the pro the Pro

1930
01:25:30,520 --> 01:25:32,560
Speaker 2: Day measurement or the combine.

1931
01:25:32,439 --> 01:25:36,200
Speaker 7: Contents thirty three, thirty three or smaller, no one's done it.

1932
01:25:36,360 --> 01:25:38,559
Speaker 2: Thirty three, no one, no one, but no one at

1933
01:25:38,560 --> 01:25:40,799
Speaker 2: thirty three has been a first round talent.

1934
01:25:41,240 --> 01:25:43,120
Speaker 7: That's what I'm saying is but I would argue that

1935
01:25:43,320 --> 01:25:45,320
Speaker 7: this is another year he may not have been. Well,

1936
01:25:45,520 --> 01:25:48,479
Speaker 7: he wouldn't have been Joe Walt or all over channel

1937
01:25:48,520 --> 01:25:49,000
Speaker 7: last year.

1938
01:25:49,040 --> 01:25:51,960
Speaker 2: But despite all that, he was the best tackle in

1939
01:25:51,960 --> 01:25:55,000
Speaker 2: this draft, despite the thirty three inch arms, And that

1940
01:25:55,120 --> 01:25:58,080
Speaker 2: tells me that he's figured out a way over the

1941
01:25:58,120 --> 01:26:00,280
Speaker 2: course of his career to overcome that.

1942
01:26:00,760 --> 01:26:04,599
Speaker 7: And I think that again, Isaiah Winn did that too

1943
01:26:04,640 --> 01:26:06,519
Speaker 7: when he was a first round pick, but he couldn't

1944
01:26:06,520 --> 01:26:07,639
Speaker 7: play tackle in the NFL.

1945
01:26:08,000 --> 01:26:11,240
Speaker 6: Well, the Jecks just took membo. I think the biggest

1946
01:26:11,240 --> 01:26:13,040
Speaker 6: thing that I would just say about the thresholds and

1947
01:26:13,080 --> 01:26:16,120
Speaker 6: all that is that there's such a knee jerk if

1948
01:26:16,400 --> 01:26:19,280
Speaker 6: he's under the threshold to immediately move the player inside.

1949
01:26:19,280 --> 01:26:21,040
Speaker 7: And that's why I say, like I don't care about

1950
01:26:21,040 --> 01:26:23,080
Speaker 7: the draft, and like the first round pick, I care

1951
01:26:23,120 --> 01:26:24,639
Speaker 7: about what they do when they play right.

1952
01:26:24,640 --> 01:26:26,639
Speaker 6: But I think the biggest thing to the point I'm

1953
01:26:26,680 --> 01:26:28,960
Speaker 6: trying to make is that who has even been given

1954
01:26:29,040 --> 01:26:32,479
Speaker 6: the chance to play tackle at thirty three year euld

1955
01:26:32,479 --> 01:26:35,920
Speaker 6: here because there's always this instant reaction of this player

1956
01:26:36,000 --> 01:26:38,439
Speaker 6: needs to move inside because of the length. So the

1957
01:26:38,479 --> 01:26:41,800
Speaker 6: sample size is so small. Now, Peter Skoronsky played at

1958
01:26:41,800 --> 01:26:44,160
Speaker 6: an All American level at Northwestern, the second of the

1959
01:26:44,240 --> 01:26:46,360
Speaker 6: Titans drafted him. He was playing left guard.

1960
01:26:46,280 --> 01:26:49,439
Speaker 7: Because he got dominated in camp. No, he never played

1961
01:26:49,479 --> 01:26:52,799
Speaker 7: the same tackle. He never put the guy in Washington

1962
01:26:52,840 --> 01:26:55,880
Speaker 7: that he never played who got dominated Brandon Sheriff, who

1963
01:26:55,960 --> 01:26:59,800
Speaker 7: got dominated by Ryan Kerrigan in practice. They let him

1964
01:26:59,800 --> 01:27:01,479
Speaker 7: do in practice and they can't.

1965
01:27:01,520 --> 01:27:04,200
Speaker 6: Okay, well, I haven't seen any reporting about the Titans.

1966
01:27:04,240 --> 01:27:07,240
Speaker 7: Well, I mean I've heard. So let's forget about Scarnsky.

1967
01:27:07,360 --> 01:27:10,240
Speaker 7: Let's go to brand. Why is that most.

1968
01:27:10,280 --> 01:27:12,679
Speaker 6: Because he was drafted by Rabel two years ago.

1969
01:27:12,760 --> 01:27:14,120
Speaker 7: And he said that he couldn't do it.

1970
01:27:14,200 --> 01:27:18,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly, but because now a contradiction. This is a

1971
01:27:18,960 --> 01:27:20,040
Speaker 2: different player.

1972
01:27:19,760 --> 01:27:21,000
Speaker 6: And he's also got longer arms.

1973
01:27:21,000 --> 01:27:21,559
Speaker 2: But that's besides.

1974
01:27:21,680 --> 01:27:23,560
Speaker 7: So if he's playing guard in training camp, what do

1975
01:27:23,640 --> 01:27:24,640
Speaker 7: we say? What are we going to say?

1976
01:27:24,880 --> 01:27:27,719
Speaker 6: I say, then I say, but this isn't the point

1977
01:27:27,720 --> 01:27:28,240
Speaker 6: that I'm making.

1978
01:27:28,479 --> 01:27:31,320
Speaker 7: I am going to say that I said, okay, yeah,

1979
01:27:31,360 --> 01:27:31,960
Speaker 7: the point that.

1980
01:27:31,880 --> 01:27:33,880
Speaker 2: I don't believe that's going to be the case. But

1981
01:27:34,040 --> 01:27:37,200
Speaker 2: if that happens, and I'll be I'll be really disappointed.

1982
01:27:37,360 --> 01:27:44,680
Speaker 7: I just think that I don't I don't know how

1983
01:27:44,720 --> 01:27:47,680
Speaker 7: to put it, like because I really and people are

1984
01:27:47,680 --> 01:27:48,880
Speaker 7: going to make fun of me. I know it. I

1985
01:27:48,920 --> 01:27:51,040
Speaker 7: know how these things work. I sort of see the

1986
01:27:51,760 --> 01:27:54,640
Speaker 7: criticism coming before it comes. This is the pick I

1987
01:27:54,640 --> 01:27:57,880
Speaker 7: would have made. I think this is a roll of

1988
01:27:57,920 --> 01:28:00,559
Speaker 7: the dice worth taking. That he can play left.

1989
01:28:00,439 --> 01:28:01,960
Speaker 2: Well, every one of these guys after the.

1990
01:28:01,880 --> 01:28:04,320
Speaker 7: First people are whispering past the graveyard that it's going

1991
01:28:04,360 --> 01:28:06,680
Speaker 7: to be an easy thing because he's athletic, and I

1992
01:28:06,720 --> 01:28:08,719
Speaker 7: don't think these most tackle.

1993
01:28:09,439 --> 01:28:11,559
Speaker 2: It's never easy for any of these guys coming into

1994
01:28:11,600 --> 01:28:13,280
Speaker 2: the NFL. But I don't think it's all like you

1995
01:28:13,600 --> 01:28:17,320
Speaker 2: mentioned Isaiah Win, Isaiah Win went back and forth in

1996
01:28:17,439 --> 01:28:20,960
Speaker 2: college garden tackle. This guy has done nothing but played

1997
01:28:21,040 --> 01:28:23,599
Speaker 2: left tackle his entire football career.

1998
01:28:23,960 --> 01:28:24,800
Speaker 7: So what does that mean?

1999
01:28:24,840 --> 01:28:26,600
Speaker 1: That was.

2000
01:28:28,320 --> 01:28:31,280
Speaker 7: Now unless he was pretty good, not as good as

2001
01:28:31,320 --> 01:28:33,519
Speaker 7: Georgia well they're good, you.

2002
01:28:33,479 --> 01:28:36,720
Speaker 2: Know, so like there was never any no one ever

2003
01:28:36,840 --> 01:28:39,519
Speaker 2: doubt he never showed any reason to play him in

2004
01:28:39,560 --> 01:28:42,639
Speaker 2: any other position but left tackle in his college career

2005
01:28:42,840 --> 01:28:46,320
Speaker 2: or you know, or below. So like I think it's

2006
01:28:46,360 --> 01:28:49,639
Speaker 2: different than Isaiah Win. Isaiah Win didn't always just play tackle.

2007
01:28:49,680 --> 01:28:54,479
Speaker 6: Well, Isaiahen was tiny six was an undersized player by all,

2008
01:28:55,040 --> 01:28:58,879
Speaker 6: you know, in all walks like size, weight, all you know, heightweight,

2009
01:28:58,960 --> 01:29:01,559
Speaker 6: all of it. I think, you know, the thing about

2010
01:29:01,800 --> 01:29:03,880
Speaker 6: you know, what Paul is saying is fair. But the

2011
01:29:03,920 --> 01:29:06,840
Speaker 6: point I am trying to make with the threshold is

2012
01:29:06,840 --> 01:29:10,920
Speaker 6: that everybody kicks all these guys inside instantly, and then

2013
01:29:10,920 --> 01:29:13,080
Speaker 6: we look around and say, why are there no good

2014
01:29:13,200 --> 01:29:16,000
Speaker 6: tackles in the NFL? Well, maybe if you had given

2015
01:29:16,080 --> 01:29:19,599
Speaker 6: the college tackle a chance to actually succeed at tackle

2016
01:29:19,680 --> 01:29:23,519
Speaker 6: before you kicked him inside and not half the teams

2017
01:29:23,520 --> 01:29:26,040
Speaker 6: in the league would be searching for left tackles every

2018
01:29:26,080 --> 01:29:28,680
Speaker 6: single year because there's a dearth of tackles. Well, there's

2019
01:29:28,720 --> 01:29:31,920
Speaker 6: a dearth of tackles because every single Peter Scaranski gets

2020
01:29:31,960 --> 01:29:38,000
Speaker 6: automatically moved inside. And with Campbell, I think they're gonna

2021
01:29:38,040 --> 01:29:40,400
Speaker 6: give him a chance to succeed at tackle. Now. I

2022
01:29:40,479 --> 01:29:43,960
Speaker 6: put the onus now on him succeeding at tackle, especially

2023
01:29:44,000 --> 01:29:46,839
Speaker 6: early on in his NFL career. On the coaching staff

2024
01:29:47,040 --> 01:29:50,400
Speaker 6: Josh McDaniels and and Doug Moron, like, they are going

2025
01:29:50,439 --> 01:29:53,840
Speaker 6: to have to recognize that this player is going to

2026
01:29:53,920 --> 01:29:56,320
Speaker 6: have some deficiencies out of the gate with his arm

2027
01:29:56,400 --> 01:29:59,200
Speaker 6: length and pass protection. So if it's chip health, if

2028
01:29:59,200 --> 01:30:01,960
Speaker 6: it's sliding, the detection towards him so that the guard

2029
01:30:02,080 --> 01:30:04,479
Speaker 6: is there for him to protect against the inside move.

2030
01:30:04,760 --> 01:30:08,200
Speaker 6: That's his biggest issue. He oversets to the outside because

2031
01:30:08,200 --> 01:30:09,920
Speaker 6: he doesn't have the length to get out to the

2032
01:30:09,960 --> 01:30:12,920
Speaker 6: speed and then those guys inside counter him.

2033
01:30:12,960 --> 01:30:16,599
Speaker 7: Right, Guy's not getting a chance. Yeah, I do. I

2034
01:30:16,680 --> 01:30:19,000
Speaker 7: like that argument because you're probably right. There's probably a

2035
01:30:19,040 --> 01:30:22,439
Speaker 7: lot of guys that maybe could have done it, but

2036
01:30:22,520 --> 01:30:23,839
Speaker 7: they just said nope, can't.

2037
01:30:23,640 --> 01:30:26,600
Speaker 2: Do it with some patients and coaching, right, So you know, I.

2038
01:30:26,600 --> 01:30:28,599
Speaker 7: Think that's the strongest argument yet efinitely.

2039
01:30:28,600 --> 01:30:32,559
Speaker 6: So the Colts have done this. Bernard Raymond and Brandon

2040
01:30:32,600 --> 01:30:35,400
Speaker 6: Smith both their tackles have under thirty three in charms.

2041
01:30:35,520 --> 01:30:38,679
Speaker 6: They're both starting caliber tackles in the league. Bernard Raymond's

2042
01:30:38,720 --> 01:30:41,000
Speaker 6: like a top ten, top fifteen tackle in the NFL.

2043
01:30:41,160 --> 01:30:43,479
Speaker 6: I think if you're looking for a good comp for

2044
01:30:43,600 --> 01:30:46,519
Speaker 6: Campbell succeeding at a high level at left tackle, it's

2045
01:30:46,560 --> 01:30:50,000
Speaker 6: probably Raymond. He's probably the best example of this. And

2046
01:30:50,000 --> 01:30:52,680
Speaker 6: the Colts said, be damned about the arm length. These

2047
01:30:52,720 --> 01:30:55,040
Speaker 6: two guys have done it. They can play the positions

2048
01:30:55,120 --> 01:30:58,000
Speaker 6: right and left tackle, and they've succeeded. They've done just fine.

2049
01:30:58,040 --> 01:31:01,320
Speaker 6: Mashaan Slater thirty three on the money. He's been awesome.

2050
01:31:01,560 --> 01:31:04,800
Speaker 6: You know, everybody says nobody under thirty three because it's

2051
01:31:04,880 --> 01:31:08,599
Speaker 6: very convenient. You just cut out Rashond later period, well,

2052
01:31:08,680 --> 01:31:12,120
Speaker 6: Rashond Slater and under, so you know he's he's a

2053
01:31:12,200 --> 01:31:15,439
Speaker 6: thirty three on the money tackle arm length, and he

2054
01:31:15,479 --> 01:31:17,760
Speaker 6: has been a high level player for the Chargers into

2055
01:31:17,760 --> 01:31:18,880
Speaker 6: the day that they drafted him.

2056
01:31:19,200 --> 01:31:21,679
Speaker 7: I think, let's let's let's let's hope that this guy

2057
01:31:21,920 --> 01:31:24,960
Speaker 7: is is an outlier. That's what you have to hope,

2058
01:31:25,000 --> 01:31:28,559
Speaker 7: because I don't like the whole notion of well, you know,

2059
01:31:28,600 --> 01:31:31,040
Speaker 7: the worst case, like Daniel Jeremiah started to say as

2060
01:31:31,040 --> 01:31:33,800
Speaker 7: we potted down, the worst case is a guard and

2061
01:31:33,840 --> 01:31:36,599
Speaker 7: that's that's not good. No, I don't want Quentin Nelson,

2062
01:31:36,640 --> 01:31:39,120
Speaker 7: who is a top five guard. He's great, great player.

2063
01:31:39,160 --> 01:31:39,760
Speaker 7: I don't want him.

2064
01:31:39,760 --> 01:31:42,200
Speaker 2: And I did say that about when I said his

2065
01:31:42,840 --> 01:31:45,599
Speaker 2: floor is a pro Bowl guard. I said that on

2066
01:31:45,720 --> 01:31:48,439
Speaker 2: the day that they drafted him, because it was not

2067
01:31:48,479 --> 01:31:51,720
Speaker 2: a good guard. There was a lot of questions about him,

2068
01:31:51,840 --> 01:31:55,200
Speaker 2: you know, more so about playing tackle than I think

2069
01:31:55,280 --> 01:31:55,960
Speaker 2: Will Campbell.

2070
01:31:56,000 --> 01:31:57,800
Speaker 7: So you guys, you guys have made me feel better.

2071
01:31:58,880 --> 01:32:03,080
Speaker 7: Membo went to the don't want it to and the Panthers.

2072
01:32:03,280 --> 01:32:06,120
Speaker 6: There there's no concern because I've talked about the concern.

2073
01:32:07,200 --> 01:32:10,320
Speaker 7: Yeah, you didn't completely eliminate because you know me, I'm

2074
01:32:10,320 --> 01:32:12,479
Speaker 7: from New England, I have I have.

2075
01:32:12,479 --> 01:32:16,880
Speaker 6: Small but there's there's ways to help him, like, okay,

2076
01:32:16,960 --> 01:32:19,800
Speaker 6: you know you know it's third down. Uh, we're gonna

2077
01:32:19,840 --> 01:32:22,680
Speaker 6: have Hunter Henry or Austin Hooper give the end a

2078
01:32:22,680 --> 01:32:24,720
Speaker 6: little bit of a forearm shiver on his way out

2079
01:32:24,720 --> 01:32:27,360
Speaker 6: into the pattern, so you don't have to overset because

2080
01:32:27,360 --> 01:32:28,880
Speaker 6: you're gonna get out because we're going to have the

2081
01:32:28,920 --> 01:32:31,519
Speaker 6: guy chipping. We're gonna have the guard slide in that

2082
01:32:31,600 --> 01:32:34,519
Speaker 6: direction to help from the inside counter Like those types

2083
01:32:34,560 --> 01:32:36,880
Speaker 6: of things that the coaching staff that they used to

2084
01:32:36,920 --> 01:32:39,000
Speaker 6: do around here that they haven't been doing.

2085
01:32:38,920 --> 01:32:40,960
Speaker 2: Around and reason don't have to do that all the time.

2086
01:32:41,040 --> 01:32:42,519
Speaker 6: I think as the rookie, they're going to have to

2087
01:32:42,560 --> 01:32:42,760
Speaker 6: do that.

2088
01:32:43,040 --> 01:32:46,040
Speaker 2: But I hope that until he figures he can play

2089
01:32:46,080 --> 01:32:47,080
Speaker 2: on that island.

2090
01:32:47,120 --> 01:32:49,559
Speaker 6: Until he figures out how to play on that island

2091
01:32:49,640 --> 01:32:51,960
Speaker 6: at this level with deficiencies that he has, they're going

2092
01:32:52,040 --> 01:32:53,200
Speaker 6: to have to do stuff like that.

2093
01:32:53,200 --> 01:32:55,640
Speaker 7: That's why I don't think they're done with the offensive

2094
01:32:55,680 --> 01:32:58,040
Speaker 7: line as well, because if you're going to ask the

2095
01:32:58,040 --> 01:33:01,160
Speaker 7: guards to do some different things for you, you might

2096
01:33:01,200 --> 01:33:04,880
Speaker 7: need an upgrade. I mean, they have Leyden Robinson City,

2097
01:33:05,000 --> 01:33:08,120
Speaker 7: so Cole Strange. Maybe a three man fight for that

2098
01:33:08,240 --> 01:33:08,919
Speaker 7: left guard.

2099
01:33:08,720 --> 01:33:10,599
Speaker 6: Spot, would you say, yeah, agree, right?

2100
01:33:10,439 --> 01:33:12,320
Speaker 7: But I mean I'd like to add something to that

2101
01:33:12,360 --> 01:33:14,880
Speaker 7: because I don't love Garrett Bradbury at center either. So

2102
01:33:15,600 --> 01:33:17,400
Speaker 7: those two spots to me, I think you have three

2103
01:33:17,439 --> 01:33:20,400
Speaker 7: spots filled now. The offensive line is imminently better than

2104
01:33:20,400 --> 01:33:23,000
Speaker 7: it was on paper. Yes year, oh yeah, on paper,

2105
01:33:23,040 --> 01:33:26,760
Speaker 7: it's imminently better. And that's that had to be priority one.

2106
01:33:26,840 --> 01:33:30,840
Speaker 2: Don't make plans for January, Paul, don't make plans for

2107
01:33:30,920 --> 01:33:34,200
Speaker 2: jan February. No January. I'm not saying February yet. I'm

2108
01:33:34,200 --> 01:33:35,600
Speaker 2: just saying January.

2109
01:33:35,439 --> 01:33:37,800
Speaker 7: Oh, are you you're actually saying the opposite of what

2110
01:33:37,880 --> 01:33:38,920
Speaker 7: I think I thought you were saying.

2111
01:33:38,920 --> 01:33:42,120
Speaker 5: Okay, it's echo what you're saying. Though, when Evan was

2112
01:33:42,160 --> 01:33:44,439
Speaker 5: talking like that, that's where the spotlight goes. Now there

2113
01:33:44,439 --> 01:33:46,559
Speaker 5: were the spotlight what for me on the whole at

2114
01:33:46,640 --> 01:33:49,240
Speaker 5: left tackle and now it goes to left guard and

2115
01:33:49,840 --> 01:33:51,320
Speaker 5: a little bit of Man.

2116
01:33:51,160 --> 01:33:53,960
Speaker 2: Don't you think what we have we can find one right?

2117
01:33:54,360 --> 01:33:56,519
Speaker 5: But but you know, but it's I don't want to

2118
01:33:56,520 --> 01:33:59,160
Speaker 5: do a little more important now though, you know, to

2119
01:33:59,160 --> 01:34:01,760
Speaker 5: help Will Campbell and try to get somebody that you know,

2120
01:34:01,760 --> 01:34:03,680
Speaker 5: in a perfect world, Leaden Robinson is that guy, and

2121
01:34:03,720 --> 01:34:05,519
Speaker 5: they're they're together for at least the next few years

2122
01:34:05,520 --> 01:34:08,200
Speaker 5: when they're under rookie deals together. But at the same time,

2123
01:34:08,240 --> 01:34:10,439
Speaker 5: you'd love to have a veteran left guard in there

2124
01:34:10,439 --> 01:34:12,040
Speaker 5: that you're like, all right, this guy's going to take

2125
01:34:12,080 --> 01:34:13,920
Speaker 5: care of him. He's going to make sure he's okay.

2126
01:34:13,960 --> 01:34:15,360
Speaker 5: So you know that's how it works for it. Just

2127
01:34:15,400 --> 01:34:16,680
Speaker 5: go whack them and we're like, all right, right, left

2128
01:34:16,680 --> 01:34:18,080
Speaker 5: guard's good. Now, we're left tackles good.

2129
01:34:18,120 --> 01:34:19,160
Speaker 7: Now we're okay.

2130
01:34:19,160 --> 01:34:20,840
Speaker 5: But I and one more thing I'll say Paul Is.

2131
01:34:20,840 --> 01:34:23,000
Speaker 5: I'm not whistling past the graveyard of anything of this.

2132
01:34:23,080 --> 01:34:25,080
Speaker 7: But I don't think I don't think we no question

2133
01:34:25,160 --> 01:34:27,519
Speaker 7: about it. I think the collective we in New England

2134
01:34:27,640 --> 01:34:28,160
Speaker 7: is my.

2135
01:34:28,120 --> 01:34:30,360
Speaker 5: Biggest point is there are traits at least to bet on,

2136
01:34:30,479 --> 01:34:33,280
Speaker 5: you know, whereas Isaiah Win and you know he's small

2137
01:34:33,320 --> 01:34:35,599
Speaker 5: all around, like you know it's Will Campbell, he's tall,

2138
01:34:35,680 --> 01:34:36,599
Speaker 5: he's big.

2139
01:34:36,960 --> 01:34:38,920
Speaker 7: In My bottom line is I really like this pick.

2140
01:34:38,920 --> 01:34:41,080
Speaker 7: And I think you know, sometimes you just have to

2141
01:34:41,200 --> 01:34:43,680
Speaker 7: take your medicine. You've you've screwed something up and you

2142
01:34:43,720 --> 01:34:45,640
Speaker 7: need to do something to address it, right, right, That's

2143
01:34:45,800 --> 01:34:46,280
Speaker 7: a great.

2144
01:34:46,080 --> 01:34:48,360
Speaker 5: Way to put it. Yeah, And that's why it's it's

2145
01:34:48,439 --> 01:34:50,599
Speaker 5: it's we talk about. Evans calls it in your vegetables.

2146
01:34:50,600 --> 01:34:52,200
Speaker 5: I used to call it putting wheels on your car,

2147
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Speaker 5: tires on your car. These are the kind of things

2148
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Speaker 5: for you.

2149
01:34:55,120 --> 01:34:57,240
Speaker 7: Just because I have some concerns doesn't mean I don't

2150
01:34:57,240 --> 01:34:58,920
Speaker 7: think it was the right call. This is the right

2151
01:34:59,000 --> 01:35:01,280
Speaker 7: call in my I mean my humble opinion.

2152
01:35:01,360 --> 01:35:04,519
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2153
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Speaker 2: when you're on the road with Bridgestone tires on your car, truck,

2154
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2155
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2156
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2157
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2158
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2159
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2160
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2161
01:35:33,400 --> 01:35:35,599
Speaker 2: let's go to Mike Rabel. Let's hear if what your

2162
01:35:35,680 --> 01:35:36,959
Speaker 2: people asked.

2163
01:35:36,800 --> 01:35:40,080
Speaker 1: Him add and will.

2164
01:35:41,439 --> 01:35:45,599
Speaker 24: To our football team is that it's about a foundational piece,

2165
01:35:46,760 --> 01:35:51,559
Speaker 24: a young twenty one year old that's mature beyond his years.

2166
01:35:52,320 --> 01:36:00,639
Speaker 24: He's a leader, he's durable, he's physical, dependable, you know, accountable, study.

2167
01:36:00,800 --> 01:36:03,200
Speaker 24: We spent a lot of time with him, and whatever

2168
01:36:03,320 --> 01:36:06,880
Speaker 24: mistakes that showed up, which they all do, he's he

2169
01:36:07,400 --> 01:36:12,920
Speaker 24: recovers quickly and and can fix those mistakes. And you know,

2170
01:36:12,960 --> 01:36:14,519
Speaker 24: we we we spent a lot of time and we

2171
01:36:14,520 --> 01:36:16,680
Speaker 24: looked at a lot of other players and worked a

2172
01:36:16,680 --> 01:36:18,920
Speaker 24: lot of other players out, and you know, he made

2173
01:36:19,080 --> 01:36:21,360
Speaker 24: he made a huge impact on us and and we'king

2174
01:36:21,560 --> 01:36:23,800
Speaker 24: you know, We're excited about adding him and look forward

2175
01:36:23,840 --> 01:36:25,400
Speaker 24: to seeing him and his family here tomorrow.

2176
01:36:25,439 --> 01:36:28,200
Speaker 1: So with that what he got, Karen.

2177
01:36:29,760 --> 01:36:32,040
Speaker 22: Was it a situation where.

2178
01:36:34,439 --> 01:36:37,599
Speaker 26: The need on one hand and the best player available

2179
01:36:37,720 --> 01:36:38,280
Speaker 26: to line it?

2180
01:36:38,680 --> 01:36:42,960
Speaker 24: Yeah, I mean I think that that's certainly, you know,

2181
01:36:43,000 --> 01:36:44,200
Speaker 24: the easiest way to look at it.

2182
01:36:44,280 --> 01:36:45,520
Speaker 1: That that that's.

2183
01:36:47,160 --> 01:36:49,800
Speaker 24: That's how the board fell, and that's kind of how

2184
01:36:49,800 --> 01:36:54,320
Speaker 24: we anticipated it going for for quite a while, and

2185
01:36:54,400 --> 01:36:57,360
Speaker 24: that's kind of where we targeted. We had some conversations

2186
01:36:58,479 --> 01:37:01,840
Speaker 24: to make sure that we were prepared those those situations

2187
01:37:01,840 --> 01:37:04,160
Speaker 24: that we talked about a few weeks ago prior prior

2188
01:37:04,240 --> 01:37:05,879
Speaker 24: to the draft that we went through.

2189
01:37:05,720 --> 01:37:06,519
Speaker 1: On on Monday.

2190
01:37:06,600 --> 01:37:10,880
Speaker 24: And you know, this is this was a very very

2191
01:37:10,920 --> 01:37:12,120
Speaker 24: easy pick for us.

2192
01:37:12,680 --> 01:37:13,320
Speaker 1: What does uh?

2193
01:37:13,400 --> 01:37:14,680
Speaker 31: Will he who spoken up?

2194
01:37:14,960 --> 01:37:17,200
Speaker 22: He reminds you of like a younger Mike Rable.

2195
01:37:17,280 --> 01:37:17,839
Speaker 2: A tough.

2196
01:37:19,479 --> 01:37:23,040
Speaker 24: We're we stay out of the comparisons in that business.

2197
01:37:23,240 --> 01:37:26,679
Speaker 24: You know, this is Uh, this is a young player

2198
01:37:27,040 --> 01:37:30,920
Speaker 24: who cares deeply about the team.

2199
01:37:30,960 --> 01:37:32,519
Speaker 1: You know, is a leader in that room.

2200
01:37:33,640 --> 01:37:38,519
Speaker 24: And but to compare him to me or anybody else, no,

2201
01:37:38,640 --> 01:37:41,760
Speaker 24: I mean, but we love his football character, uh, his

2202
01:37:41,880 --> 01:37:47,000
Speaker 24: play demeanor, his his play style, how coachable he is

2203
01:37:47,120 --> 01:37:50,479
Speaker 24: and and you know, a twenty one year old, you know,

2204
01:37:50,560 --> 01:37:52,920
Speaker 24: player that started thirty eight or forty games in the

2205
01:37:53,000 --> 01:37:56,720
Speaker 24: SEC is is something that uh, you know is impressive.

2206
01:37:57,240 --> 01:38:01,160
Speaker 11: Mike Lennonhow that will cement himself as the pick for

2207
01:38:01,280 --> 01:38:02,400
Speaker 11: you guys in this process?

2208
01:38:04,240 --> 01:38:06,759
Speaker 24: Well, I mean I think probably last week when Elliott

2209
01:38:06,800 --> 01:38:09,639
Speaker 24: and I and Ryan uh and a few others went

2210
01:38:09,720 --> 01:38:13,320
Speaker 24: down and spent time with him and and worked him out,

2211
01:38:14,240 --> 01:38:15,720
Speaker 24: you know, and then went and worked out a few

2212
01:38:15,760 --> 01:38:18,880
Speaker 24: more players the same day, and we you know, we

2213
01:38:19,000 --> 01:38:22,200
Speaker 24: made a circuit and I think when we came back

2214
01:38:22,240 --> 01:38:23,920
Speaker 24: and we slept on it and then had you know,

2215
01:38:24,240 --> 01:38:26,479
Speaker 24: the conversations about where it would be if he was

2216
01:38:26,520 --> 01:38:27,320
Speaker 24: on the board, and.

2217
01:38:29,080 --> 01:38:30,799
Speaker 1: You know, I think probably then.

2218
01:38:31,120 --> 01:38:32,400
Speaker 32: Like a left tackle.

2219
01:38:33,800 --> 01:38:34,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean that's where he.

2220
01:38:34,720 --> 01:38:37,200
Speaker 24: Started, and he's a left tackle, and you know, that's

2221
01:38:37,960 --> 01:38:40,120
Speaker 24: that's what he's played, that's what he's you know done,

2222
01:38:40,160 --> 01:38:43,320
Speaker 24: and so he'll come in here and he'll compete, uh

2223
01:38:43,439 --> 01:38:45,800
Speaker 24: to be the left tackle, just like everybody else is.

2224
01:38:45,720 --> 01:38:47,000
Speaker 1: Going to compete for their spots.

2225
01:38:47,000 --> 01:38:50,360
Speaker 24: That's that's what we're trying to create here, is something

2226
01:38:50,400 --> 01:38:54,880
Speaker 24: that there there's competition at every position, and that that

2227
01:38:54,960 --> 01:38:57,280
Speaker 24: our players believe that the best players are going to play.

2228
01:38:57,560 --> 01:39:00,080
Speaker 22: You said throughout this process that Arl.

2229
01:39:00,240 --> 01:39:03,280
Speaker 11: Wasn't the thing super problem for you guys in terms

2230
01:39:03,320 --> 01:39:04,440
Speaker 11: of overall evaluation.

2231
01:39:05,520 --> 01:39:07,719
Speaker 22: When when when you met with the will.

2232
01:39:08,160 --> 01:39:11,679
Speaker 11: How come fitment at the course, you're kind of getting

2233
01:39:11,720 --> 01:39:14,480
Speaker 11: to know him, kind of understanding who he is this player.

2234
01:39:16,360 --> 01:39:16,880
Speaker 1: You know there.

2235
01:39:16,880 --> 01:39:20,280
Speaker 24: Everybody has a play style, everybody has a skill set,

2236
01:39:20,760 --> 01:39:23,439
Speaker 24: and it's what you do within that skill set and

2237
01:39:23,280 --> 01:39:26,479
Speaker 24: the tricks that you learn in his business and how

2238
01:39:26,520 --> 01:39:29,800
Speaker 24: you play and how you do your job right, and

2239
01:39:29,880 --> 01:39:34,479
Speaker 24: so I think he's learned a lot of those. And

2240
01:39:34,680 --> 01:39:36,680
Speaker 24: it's a player on that on the left side and

2241
01:39:36,760 --> 01:39:39,920
Speaker 24: to pass protect and you know, for for a taller player,

2242
01:39:39,960 --> 01:39:41,880
Speaker 24: he sinks his hips in a run game and is

2243
01:39:41,880 --> 01:39:45,720
Speaker 24: able to stay attached in the in the past game

2244
01:39:45,800 --> 01:39:48,360
Speaker 24: and and and widen the pocket and and create the

2245
01:39:48,400 --> 01:39:50,839
Speaker 24: width of the pocket and get out on the perimeter.

2246
01:39:51,000 --> 01:39:53,800
Speaker 24: So you know, it's a it's a total package, right.

2247
01:39:53,840 --> 01:39:55,680
Speaker 24: And if you drop back and you throw the ball

2248
01:39:55,760 --> 01:39:57,800
Speaker 24: forty times in this league, it's going to be it's

2249
01:39:57,880 --> 01:39:59,080
Speaker 24: tough sledding for anybody.

2250
01:39:59,360 --> 01:40:02,160
Speaker 1: Right That's let me just tell you that.

2251
01:40:02,080 --> 01:40:03,960
Speaker 24: Like that's if you if it turns into a drop

2252
01:40:04,040 --> 01:40:06,280
Speaker 24: back passing game in the National Football League.

2253
01:40:06,600 --> 01:40:09,040
Speaker 1: You know, it's going to be an issue for for anybody.

2254
01:40:09,560 --> 01:40:13,599
Speaker 24: And when when you talk about play style, it's you know,

2255
01:40:14,080 --> 01:40:15,920
Speaker 24: how is he going to be able to you know,

2256
01:40:16,000 --> 01:40:19,479
Speaker 24: create that and and and be able to you know,

2257
01:40:19,520 --> 01:40:21,920
Speaker 24: for offensive linemen, it's so much about a reaction of

2258
01:40:22,240 --> 01:40:25,439
Speaker 24: resetting your hand, chopping the arm down, all these tricks

2259
01:40:25,439 --> 01:40:27,360
Speaker 24: of the trade that they use, and they have to

2260
01:40:27,360 --> 01:40:30,480
Speaker 24: be able to to make great decisions and split second decisions.

2261
01:40:30,479 --> 01:40:34,240
Speaker 24: So you know, his body of worker is out there

2262
01:40:34,280 --> 01:40:36,759
Speaker 24: on the left side against a lot of really good rushers.

2263
01:40:36,760 --> 01:40:37,920
Speaker 1: They're all going to get beat.

2264
01:40:38,080 --> 01:40:39,960
Speaker 24: Okay, so we can watch every time that a left

2265
01:40:39,960 --> 01:40:42,360
Speaker 24: tackle gets beat. They all get beat. I've been in

2266
01:40:42,400 --> 01:40:46,800
Speaker 24: this league for twenty five years and but but I'm

2267
01:40:46,840 --> 01:40:50,440
Speaker 24: just I'm confident in how quickly he is able to

2268
01:40:50,479 --> 01:40:53,080
Speaker 24: process and change and have a lot of different pitches

2269
01:40:53,439 --> 01:40:55,040
Speaker 24: at such a young age.

2270
01:40:55,479 --> 01:40:59,000
Speaker 33: Right, I'm curious, you run and Morgan, how important is

2271
01:40:59,000 --> 01:41:02,439
Speaker 33: it much a better a kind leader in the room

2272
01:41:02,760 --> 01:41:05,439
Speaker 33: at tackle and a younger John and will.

2273
01:41:05,320 --> 01:41:08,639
Speaker 1: Pay the more leadership that we can have, the better.

2274
01:41:08,840 --> 01:41:12,200
Speaker 24: And I've appreciated Morgan since the time that that I've

2275
01:41:12,240 --> 01:41:15,200
Speaker 24: known him personally. There's a lot of people around here

2276
01:41:15,240 --> 01:41:17,559
Speaker 24: in our building that had a high affinity for him,

2277
01:41:17,960 --> 01:41:21,360
Speaker 24: you know, going through the free agency process, and you know,

2278
01:41:21,400 --> 01:41:25,280
Speaker 24: it became evident to me quickly that this was the

2279
01:41:25,320 --> 01:41:27,200
Speaker 24: type of person and player that we wanted on our

2280
01:41:27,200 --> 01:41:32,360
Speaker 24: football team. And and these going to help not only Will,

2281
01:41:33,400 --> 01:41:35,600
Speaker 24: but everybody else in that room and anybody else that

2282
01:41:35,680 --> 01:41:38,400
Speaker 24: will add through the course of three days. So he

2283
01:41:38,560 --> 01:41:41,200
Speaker 24: I love everything that Morgan is about as a person,

2284
01:41:41,720 --> 01:41:44,519
Speaker 24: you know, as a father, and he communicates with me.

2285
01:41:45,120 --> 01:41:48,640
Speaker 24: You know, he's raising three boys, three young boys, and

2286
01:41:48,680 --> 01:41:52,320
Speaker 24: that's that's probably his most important job right now, and

2287
01:41:52,360 --> 01:41:53,280
Speaker 24: I would agree with that.

2288
01:41:53,439 --> 01:41:55,160
Speaker 18: Do you talk to him a little during that process

2289
01:41:55,280 --> 01:41:57,680
Speaker 18: of about the tackle and his sports, that.

2290
01:41:59,479 --> 01:42:02,679
Speaker 2: Type of the household or anything, got.

2291
01:42:04,400 --> 01:42:05,760
Speaker 24: No, I mean I have a pretty good idea. I

2292
01:42:05,800 --> 01:42:07,720
Speaker 24: think Elliott has a pretty good idea. I think Ryan

2293
01:42:07,800 --> 01:42:10,479
Speaker 24: and everybody else in our personnel department has a pretty

2294
01:42:10,479 --> 01:42:13,559
Speaker 24: good idea on what to look for when you're talking

2295
01:42:13,560 --> 01:42:18,880
Speaker 24: about offensive linemen. And but we value you know, again,

2296
01:42:19,040 --> 01:42:22,360
Speaker 24: we value all our players' opinions on things, and you

2297
01:42:22,439 --> 01:42:23,280
Speaker 24: know they all have them.

2298
01:42:23,760 --> 01:42:25,080
Speaker 1: Some are better than others.

2299
01:42:26,160 --> 01:42:28,720
Speaker 22: There's there's been a lot of discussion about movement in

2300
01:42:28,800 --> 01:42:31,120
Speaker 22: the first round. Obviously the crowd streight to find a

2301
01:42:31,200 --> 01:42:31,760
Speaker 22: deal it too.

2302
01:42:32,280 --> 01:42:34,720
Speaker 4: Did you guys receive any offers at the point?

2303
01:42:35,600 --> 01:42:37,720
Speaker 1: No, you know, we we you know, I think at

2304
01:42:37,760 --> 01:42:39,679
Speaker 1: this point in time it was pretty quiet.

2305
01:42:39,920 --> 01:42:40,080
Speaker 14: You know.

2306
01:42:40,120 --> 01:42:43,439
Speaker 24: I think we would have entertained anything that anybody offered us.

2307
01:42:45,080 --> 01:42:46,639
Speaker 24: But but it was pretty quiet. I mean, I think

2308
01:42:46,680 --> 01:42:49,800
Speaker 24: everybody was going up for for two players and one

2309
01:42:49,920 --> 01:42:51,479
Speaker 24: was already there and they didn't have to move, and

2310
01:42:51,520 --> 01:42:53,680
Speaker 24: the other team that wanted to get to to two

2311
01:42:54,360 --> 01:42:58,000
Speaker 24: got there. So we would have been open but excited

2312
01:42:58,120 --> 01:42:59,800
Speaker 24: to be able to get you know, stay there and

2313
01:43:00,200 --> 01:43:01,920
Speaker 24: and get and get will like.

2314
01:43:02,040 --> 01:43:04,800
Speaker 5: With the chips, you have the expert third round kick

2315
01:43:05,439 --> 01:43:08,160
Speaker 5: that you had to state, And I said, we'll just

2316
01:43:08,200 --> 01:43:09,160
Speaker 5: try to get back in here.

2317
01:43:09,360 --> 01:43:11,760
Speaker 24: I think the right players are there, you know, I mean,

2318
01:43:11,880 --> 01:43:13,479
Speaker 24: give us something to do tonight, so we're not just

2319
01:43:13,560 --> 01:43:17,160
Speaker 24: sitting there watching and uh but but just not to

2320
01:43:17,400 --> 01:43:19,640
Speaker 24: to go up for just to for just to go up.

2321
01:43:19,960 --> 01:43:20,680
Speaker 1: So if somebody is.

2322
01:43:20,680 --> 01:43:24,840
Speaker 24: There that that we have rated at at a great

2323
01:43:24,880 --> 01:43:27,600
Speaker 24: spot at a great value, and I think then we

2324
01:43:27,640 --> 01:43:30,840
Speaker 24: could go back up. But we'll see as the draft

2325
01:43:30,920 --> 01:43:33,840
Speaker 24: goes on and who comes off the board and whether

2326
01:43:33,880 --> 01:43:36,599
Speaker 24: we just sit there and wait till tomorrow, like if.

2327
01:43:36,720 --> 01:43:40,240
Speaker 22: If Will eventually has to move inside. Is this a

2328
01:43:40,360 --> 01:43:43,360
Speaker 22: misevaluation this high in the draft and fourth overall?

2329
01:43:46,280 --> 01:43:48,840
Speaker 24: You know, I think that what we're focused on is

2330
01:43:49,120 --> 01:43:51,400
Speaker 24: where he's going to be tomorrow and the next day,

2331
01:43:51,479 --> 01:43:53,320
Speaker 24: and not what the misevaluation is.

2332
01:43:53,400 --> 01:43:56,760
Speaker 1: Like we we coveted this player. This was a very

2333
01:43:56,800 --> 01:43:58,320
Speaker 1: good football player, and so.

2334
01:44:00,040 --> 01:44:03,120
Speaker 24: I think part of the draft is adding great pieces

2335
01:44:03,200 --> 01:44:06,840
Speaker 24: and great players to your roster, which is what we did.

2336
01:44:07,360 --> 01:44:12,080
Speaker 24: So he hasn't even shown up here in Foxboro, and

2337
01:44:12,160 --> 01:44:14,080
Speaker 24: we're not going to talk about where he's gonna play

2338
01:44:14,280 --> 01:44:17,479
Speaker 24: or what he's gonna do. I'm going to let everything

2339
01:44:18,479 --> 01:44:20,560
Speaker 24: really speak for itself and let his play and what

2340
01:44:20,680 --> 01:44:23,880
Speaker 24: he does in the community and most importantly on the

2341
01:44:23,960 --> 01:44:26,240
Speaker 24: field before we start talking about that.

2342
01:44:26,560 --> 01:44:29,160
Speaker 1: You know, I mean, I just think that that's you know,

2343
01:44:29,600 --> 01:44:31,920
Speaker 1: that's not fair. I've never thought about that one time.

2344
01:44:32,160 --> 01:44:35,559
Speaker 24: You know, We've watched every game that he's played, put

2345
01:44:35,600 --> 01:44:37,679
Speaker 24: a lot of work into this, and we're all excited

2346
01:44:37,720 --> 01:44:38,680
Speaker 24: and happy that he's here.

2347
01:44:39,280 --> 01:44:40,000
Speaker 5: In terms of his.

2348
01:44:40,160 --> 01:44:42,720
Speaker 22: Character, he pick the Bowl over what you're looking to

2349
01:44:42,800 --> 01:44:43,599
Speaker 22: him as.

2350
01:44:43,400 --> 01:44:45,600
Speaker 1: A play style, there's a play demeanor. And I'll just

2351
01:44:45,640 --> 01:44:46,000
Speaker 1: tell you this.

2352
01:44:46,080 --> 01:44:48,599
Speaker 24: When we went down there to work him out, Uh,

2353
01:44:48,880 --> 01:44:50,720
Speaker 24: he showed up with one purpose, and that was for

2354
01:44:50,840 --> 01:44:52,840
Speaker 24: us to pick him. From the time that we walked

2355
01:44:52,880 --> 01:44:55,160
Speaker 24: in the building to the time that we left and

2356
01:44:55,240 --> 01:44:58,200
Speaker 24: got on the plane. Uh, he he had one objective

2357
01:44:58,240 --> 01:45:01,160
Speaker 24: and that was to to prove to us that he

2358
01:45:01,360 --> 01:45:03,680
Speaker 24: was the right player for us. I'll say that, and

2359
01:45:03,800 --> 01:45:07,200
Speaker 24: I can speak for everybody else that was there.

2360
01:45:07,840 --> 01:45:10,240
Speaker 22: What is the I don't want to say what is

2361
01:45:10,320 --> 01:45:11,160
Speaker 22: the timeline for him?

2362
01:45:11,200 --> 01:45:13,519
Speaker 20: But with a young player at a premium position like that,

2363
01:45:14,000 --> 01:45:16,120
Speaker 20: how important is it to take your time in terms

2364
01:45:16,160 --> 01:45:18,760
Speaker 20: of his development to get him ready to eventually play

2365
01:45:18,880 --> 01:45:19,280
Speaker 20: left time?

2366
01:45:19,439 --> 01:45:21,439
Speaker 1: Cool the time. I mean, it's just block your guy.

2367
01:45:21,479 --> 01:45:23,920
Speaker 24: I mean when you talk about coming from the they

2368
01:45:23,960 --> 01:45:26,799
Speaker 24: threw the ball a time, like let's let's not kid ourselves.

2369
01:45:26,880 --> 01:45:30,240
Speaker 24: Like he had more drop back snaps than pretty much

2370
01:45:30,280 --> 01:45:34,280
Speaker 24: anybody else in college football. Like they threw the ball

2371
01:45:34,360 --> 01:45:37,920
Speaker 24: fifty times. It wasn't RPOs like everybody else. So he's

2372
01:45:38,360 --> 01:45:40,600
Speaker 24: past protected, he's run blocked. He's coming out of a

2373
01:45:40,680 --> 01:45:44,880
Speaker 24: pro system. The terminology He's already been through it, I

2374
01:45:44,920 --> 01:45:46,840
Speaker 24: don't know how many times with our guys and with me,

2375
01:45:47,040 --> 01:45:48,040
Speaker 24: and I think.

2376
01:45:47,960 --> 01:45:50,880
Speaker 1: It's going to be a quick learning curve as far

2377
01:45:51,000 --> 01:45:51,920
Speaker 1: as the scheme.

2378
01:45:52,520 --> 01:45:54,600
Speaker 24: And then again there's gonna be a learning curve and

2379
01:45:54,640 --> 01:45:59,360
Speaker 24: adjustment to everything that he does. But he's coming from

2380
01:45:59,400 --> 01:46:03,120
Speaker 24: a great program, am one that's you know, built similar

2381
01:46:03,240 --> 01:46:06,479
Speaker 24: to to to pro football. You know, football is is

2382
01:46:06,640 --> 01:46:11,120
Speaker 24: very important to him. And but but we'll also, just

2383
01:46:11,240 --> 01:46:13,320
Speaker 24: like every other player, will give them exactly what they

2384
01:46:13,400 --> 01:46:13,880
Speaker 24: can handle.

2385
01:46:14,760 --> 01:46:18,120
Speaker 15: Is a report that you involved in the worked out last.

2386
01:46:17,960 --> 01:46:19,840
Speaker 1: Week you throw a blocking pad on.

2387
01:46:20,760 --> 01:46:23,320
Speaker 7: Why is that important for you to be vault in that?

2388
01:46:23,560 --> 01:46:23,680
Speaker 2: Well?

2389
01:46:23,680 --> 01:46:27,400
Speaker 24: Who made that report? And then I'll answer the question. Okay,

2390
01:46:27,520 --> 01:46:29,599
Speaker 24: well you know Pete's mister college football.

2391
01:46:30,840 --> 01:46:31,360
Speaker 13: Yeah he he.

2392
01:46:31,560 --> 01:46:34,360
Speaker 1: They all knocked me around pretty good. I realized I'm.

2393
01:46:34,360 --> 01:46:37,320
Speaker 24: Close to fifty and if that tape ever gets out,

2394
01:46:37,920 --> 01:46:40,000
Speaker 24: there's gonna be people are gonna have some problems.

2395
01:46:40,080 --> 01:46:43,840
Speaker 1: So I uh, I hope that tape never sees the

2396
01:46:43,920 --> 01:46:44,439
Speaker 1: light of day.

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01:46:45,120 --> 01:46:47,280
Speaker 24: But I think it was important for me to get

2398
01:46:47,320 --> 01:46:50,120
Speaker 24: out there and feel them and feel every every player

2399
01:46:50,200 --> 01:46:52,559
Speaker 24: that we evaluated at the line of scrimmage.

2400
01:46:53,320 --> 01:46:55,240
Speaker 22: What if anything has surprised you about just talk.

2401
01:46:57,960 --> 01:46:59,880
Speaker 1: Oh no, I mean it's not like I just showed

2402
01:46:59,920 --> 01:47:01,720
Speaker 1: up up here in January for the first time, you know.

2403
01:47:01,760 --> 01:47:04,360
Speaker 24: I mean I've been in the league a long time, so, uh,

2404
01:47:04,960 --> 01:47:07,800
Speaker 24: nothing surprises me in this league anymore. There's just you know,

2405
01:47:09,120 --> 01:47:11,680
Speaker 24: distractions that are going to happen throughout our team with

2406
01:47:11,880 --> 01:47:12,400
Speaker 24: our season.

2407
01:47:13,160 --> 01:47:14,080
Speaker 1: They're unavoidable.

2408
01:47:14,640 --> 01:47:17,559
Speaker 24: So I hope no one ever says, hey, we want

2409
01:47:17,600 --> 01:47:20,800
Speaker 24: to eliminate distractions, because I would say that that's impossible.

2410
01:47:21,520 --> 01:47:23,080
Speaker 1: We just want to handle them the best that we

2411
01:47:23,200 --> 01:47:25,120
Speaker 1: can and be ready for him and be prepared for him.

2412
01:47:25,640 --> 01:47:29,280
Speaker 6: How important is it to have the kind of vinegar

2413
01:47:29,439 --> 01:47:30,360
Speaker 6: and brings the.

2414
01:47:30,479 --> 01:47:32,639
Speaker 22: Table for an office one.

2415
01:47:34,040 --> 01:47:36,479
Speaker 1: Like that's you know, one of the only ways that

2416
01:47:36,600 --> 01:47:37,280
Speaker 1: you can survive.

2417
01:47:38,000 --> 01:47:40,439
Speaker 24: It's as as a player in this league at the

2418
01:47:40,479 --> 01:47:45,160
Speaker 24: line of scrimmage, the play, demeanor, the finish, the effort.

2419
01:47:45,439 --> 01:47:49,280
Speaker 1: I mean, it's the guys on the other side are talented, dude.

2420
01:47:49,320 --> 01:47:51,600
Speaker 1: I mean, it's just it's how it goes. You know.

2421
01:47:51,720 --> 01:47:52,760
Speaker 1: We think we can all see that.

2422
01:47:52,920 --> 01:47:56,840
Speaker 24: And so there's a lot to you know, playing this

2423
01:47:57,080 --> 01:48:00,960
Speaker 24: game other than just you know, looking good and having

2424
01:48:01,000 --> 01:48:04,679
Speaker 24: great technique, you know, and so we we we valued

2425
01:48:04,720 --> 01:48:06,560
Speaker 24: that and we're going to continue to value that. The

2426
01:48:06,840 --> 01:48:10,880
Speaker 24: ability to to finish and to grind through when it

2427
01:48:10,920 --> 01:48:13,719
Speaker 24: gets tough is something that we're we're.

2428
01:48:13,560 --> 01:48:14,599
Speaker 1: Going to be excited about.

2429
01:48:15,120 --> 01:48:17,519
Speaker 24: And uh, we're going to give him every opportunity to

2430
01:48:18,000 --> 01:48:20,559
Speaker 24: develop and you know, push, push him as fast as

2431
01:48:20,600 --> 01:48:21,200
Speaker 24: he'll let us go.

2432
01:48:23,760 --> 01:48:25,559
Speaker 14: Thank you, have a good night.

2433
01:48:25,640 --> 01:48:27,800
Speaker 22: Thanks enjoying the free food we got food for him.

2434
01:48:28,479 --> 01:48:33,240
Speaker 2: All right, that's Mike Brabell talking to the media. Yeah,

2435
01:48:34,280 --> 01:48:37,599
Speaker 2: I mean pretty interesting. I think the media they pretty

2436
01:48:37,680 --> 01:48:39,960
Speaker 2: much asked all the questions that I think should have

2437
01:48:40,000 --> 01:48:45,599
Speaker 2: been asked, right, yeahs of just people asking about trades.

2438
01:48:45,680 --> 01:48:47,479
Speaker 2: He said, you know, it was it was pretty quiet.

2439
01:48:47,640 --> 01:48:50,120
Speaker 2: We were willing to listen, but it was pretty quiet.

2440
01:48:50,240 --> 01:48:52,280
Speaker 6: Yeah. I thought the one thing he did mention, just

2441
01:48:52,320 --> 01:48:55,360
Speaker 6: from you know, a technical standpoint, the fact that Will

2442
01:48:55,400 --> 01:48:57,760
Speaker 6: Campbell didn't play in one of these gimmicky r p

2443
01:48:57,920 --> 01:49:01,439
Speaker 6: O you know, college style offenses, something that I've written

2444
01:49:01,479 --> 01:49:04,360
Speaker 6: about and talked about. So, you know, PFF tracks what

2445
01:49:04,520 --> 01:49:07,880
Speaker 6: they call true pass sets, which takes RPOs, screens, all

2446
01:49:08,000 --> 01:49:10,240
Speaker 6: that kind of stuff out and really looks at the

2447
01:49:10,280 --> 01:49:12,840
Speaker 6: plays where the quarterbacks actually holding the ball. For more

2448
01:49:12,840 --> 01:49:14,800
Speaker 6: than two and a half seconds and you have to

2449
01:49:14,880 --> 01:49:17,720
Speaker 6: pass protect. And Campbell had the most pass sets out

2450
01:49:17,760 --> 01:49:20,080
Speaker 6: of the top six tackles in the class that they

2451
01:49:20,200 --> 01:49:22,640
Speaker 6: deemed true pass sets, two hundred and twenty nine of them.

2452
01:49:22,880 --> 01:49:24,920
Speaker 6: On those two hundred and twenty nine, he allowed twelve

2453
01:49:24,960 --> 01:49:29,479
Speaker 6: pressures the entire season against SEC competition. So that's a

2454
01:49:29,520 --> 01:49:32,120
Speaker 6: big difference between some of these other guys that were

2455
01:49:32,160 --> 01:49:34,560
Speaker 6: in those gimmicky type of offenses that the ball was

2456
01:49:34,600 --> 01:49:37,320
Speaker 6: coming out so quickly that you see some really fluffed

2457
01:49:37,400 --> 01:49:40,840
Speaker 6: up pressure numbers from different players because their quarterbacks are

2458
01:49:40,920 --> 01:49:43,519
Speaker 6: just not back there for very long. Campbell that was

2459
01:49:43,600 --> 01:49:46,799
Speaker 6: not the case, especially last year with ness Meyer replacing

2460
01:49:46,880 --> 01:49:50,080
Speaker 6: Jaden Daniels. So it's a good point there with you know,

2461
01:49:50,200 --> 01:49:53,040
Speaker 6: Campbell that separates some of his pass blocking tape. You

2462
01:49:53,120 --> 01:49:57,920
Speaker 6: can really see translatable NFL caliber pass sets against NFL

2463
01:49:58,040 --> 01:49:58,919
Speaker 6: caliber competition.

2464
01:49:59,000 --> 01:50:01,960
Speaker 2: And you has that story's been posted, Yes, so you

2465
01:50:02,120 --> 01:50:04,519
Speaker 2: posted your excell and O's take on the pick with

2466
01:50:04,680 --> 01:50:07,600
Speaker 2: some film. So if anyone wants to get more of

2467
01:50:07,680 --> 01:50:10,519
Speaker 2: what Evan's talking about, just go to Patriots dot com

2468
01:50:10,680 --> 01:50:12,680
Speaker 2: right now and you can see some tape. You can

2469
01:50:12,720 --> 01:50:15,800
Speaker 2: see Evans analysis and backing up what he just said.

2470
01:50:16,160 --> 01:50:18,320
Speaker 5: Yeah, good stuff from Faebele. I mean I like the

2471
01:50:18,960 --> 01:50:21,599
Speaker 5: defense of him and clearly will Campbell want them over.

2472
01:50:21,720 --> 01:50:24,599
Speaker 5: With everything we've been talking about, not just the experience

2473
01:50:24,680 --> 01:50:26,880
Speaker 5: on the field, but also the demeanor off field, it

2474
01:50:26,960 --> 01:50:28,720
Speaker 5: just always seemed like a match to Mike Vrabel from

2475
01:50:28,760 --> 01:50:30,160
Speaker 5: me and that press conference is.

2476
01:50:30,160 --> 01:50:35,519
Speaker 2: Can we got our guy? Let's see. One of our

2477
01:50:35,640 --> 01:50:39,040
Speaker 2: emailers says, those two fans that Alex chose perfectly showcase

2478
01:50:39,360 --> 01:50:42,760
Speaker 2: the two types of Patriots fans. One the absurdly optimistic

2479
01:50:42,840 --> 01:50:45,760
Speaker 2: belligerent who thinks every move is a slam dunk, and

2480
01:50:45,880 --> 01:50:48,560
Speaker 2: two that we'll see pessimists who views everything we do

2481
01:50:48,640 --> 01:50:51,559
Speaker 2: as a mistake. It couldn't have been more perfect well done.

2482
01:50:52,400 --> 01:50:55,920
Speaker 3: Only in New England is another AFC championship considered a loss.

2483
01:50:57,600 --> 01:50:59,920
Speaker 5: Guy who spent three hours painting his head, but still

2484
01:51:00,240 --> 01:51:01,720
Speaker 5: he's not sure about it though, We'll see.

2485
01:51:01,920 --> 01:51:04,040
Speaker 7: Yeah, that was the part that was a little bit

2486
01:51:04,320 --> 01:51:08,519
Speaker 7: sort of like I know for Alex, you know, yeah, yeah,

2487
01:51:09,320 --> 01:51:11,880
Speaker 7: Well I liked listening to Mike talk about you know,

2488
01:51:12,040 --> 01:51:15,800
Speaker 7: sort of his you know, his demeanor as a as

2489
01:51:15,840 --> 01:51:18,800
Speaker 7: a teammate, you know, his passion for the team and

2490
01:51:19,800 --> 01:51:23,960
Speaker 7: his commitment is accountability those kinds of things, because as

2491
01:51:24,000 --> 01:51:26,680
Speaker 7: a rookie left tackle, you're going to have some some

2492
01:51:27,040 --> 01:51:29,160
Speaker 7: you know, bumps in the road. So I think you

2493
01:51:29,240 --> 01:51:32,360
Speaker 7: need to have that kind of mentality. You know, it's

2494
01:51:32,400 --> 01:51:33,920
Speaker 7: not the same, but you know, kind of like when

2495
01:51:33,920 --> 01:51:37,240
Speaker 7: we talk about cornerbacks needing to have short memories, you know,

2496
01:51:38,040 --> 01:51:39,720
Speaker 7: and Mike said it, if you're going to make a

2497
01:51:39,760 --> 01:51:42,519
Speaker 7: living in the NFL dropping back forty times every game,

2498
01:51:42,720 --> 01:51:46,320
Speaker 7: they're gonna be bumps. And uh so it sounds like

2499
01:51:46,400 --> 01:51:49,760
Speaker 7: he has that kind of demeanor that that can handle it.

2500
01:51:49,920 --> 01:51:52,920
Speaker 7: So m last year at LSU, they.

2501
01:51:52,960 --> 01:51:55,880
Speaker 6: Dropped back forty times a game, and he's got Nick

2502
01:51:56,000 --> 01:51:58,439
Speaker 6: Gorton and Shamar Stewart coming off the edge at him

2503
01:51:58,479 --> 01:52:01,360
Speaker 6: and they're just dropping back and dropping back. And he

2504
01:52:01,800 --> 01:52:03,640
Speaker 6: was able to you know, there were some works. You know,

2505
01:52:03,680 --> 01:52:05,880
Speaker 6: there's some some losses, no doubt about it, but he

2506
01:52:06,040 --> 01:52:08,080
Speaker 6: was he was able to hold his own more more

2507
01:52:08,120 --> 01:52:08,760
Speaker 6: than hold his own.

2508
01:52:08,800 --> 01:52:12,160
Speaker 2: I would say, Gary writes in Fred in particular, but

2509
01:52:12,280 --> 01:52:14,479
Speaker 2: all of you agreed said you don't need stars in

2510
01:52:14,520 --> 01:52:16,519
Speaker 2: the offensive line. You need guys who are good and

2511
01:52:16,600 --> 01:52:19,320
Speaker 2: play together as a unit. You got four good guys

2512
01:52:19,439 --> 01:52:21,519
Speaker 2: right now and lots of candidates for left guard. Looks

2513
01:52:21,560 --> 01:52:21,960
Speaker 2: fine to me.

2514
01:52:22,040 --> 01:52:24,800
Speaker 7: They have three I think we have two questions that

2515
01:52:25,400 --> 01:52:26,120
Speaker 7: you don't like center.

2516
01:52:26,600 --> 01:52:28,280
Speaker 2: Well you're not sold on center yet?

2517
01:52:28,400 --> 01:52:32,000
Speaker 7: Well, I mean, I'm just going off of last year. Yeah, yeah, right,

2518
01:52:32,120 --> 01:52:34,120
Speaker 7: I mean I think that the I think the Patriots

2519
01:52:34,160 --> 01:52:36,360
Speaker 7: aren't sold on center. They're looking for him, you know,

2520
01:52:36,439 --> 01:52:39,920
Speaker 7: they they signed one, and I think, I mean, would

2521
01:52:39,920 --> 01:52:43,200
Speaker 7: you be surprised if it was cold strange? Like, I

2522
01:52:43,240 --> 01:52:44,960
Speaker 7: think there's going to be a cop. I think there's

2523
01:52:44,960 --> 01:52:47,080
Speaker 7: going to be a competite center. Yeah, it's going to

2524
01:52:47,120 --> 01:52:50,760
Speaker 7: see competition. Yeah, I mean the odds on favorites brad Berry,

2525
01:52:50,840 --> 01:52:52,599
Speaker 7: I would say, just based on the fact that they

2526
01:52:52,680 --> 01:52:55,920
Speaker 7: signed him. But wait, did he rank last year in PFF?

2527
01:52:56,160 --> 01:52:57,639
Speaker 6: Yeah, I would have a I don'd have a tough

2528
01:52:57,720 --> 01:53:00,720
Speaker 6: time saying that anybody's gonna unsee Bradberry for next year.

2529
01:53:02,720 --> 01:53:05,080
Speaker 6: In past protection, he has issues, you know, it's with

2530
01:53:05,280 --> 01:53:08,400
Speaker 6: size and power on the inside and his ability to

2531
01:53:08,439 --> 01:53:11,000
Speaker 6: pass protect at a really high level. But I think

2532
01:53:11,080 --> 01:53:14,080
Speaker 6: his movement skills and his experience are just going to

2533
01:53:14,160 --> 01:53:16,760
Speaker 6: put him over the top. I've been saying since the

2534
01:53:16,800 --> 01:53:19,000
Speaker 6: beginning that left guard is the spot that I would

2535
01:53:19,040 --> 01:53:21,000
Speaker 6: look at in this draft in particular. I think there's

2536
01:53:21,040 --> 01:53:23,519
Speaker 6: a lot of really good guard talent in the draft

2537
01:53:23,600 --> 01:53:26,479
Speaker 6: this year. If you want to add another one in there,

2538
01:53:26,600 --> 01:53:28,280
Speaker 6: I think there's a chance that you could add one

2539
01:53:28,320 --> 01:53:30,680
Speaker 6: on Day two that would start over everybody on Day

2540
01:53:30,840 --> 01:53:33,080
Speaker 6: that you have on your roster right now. But if

2541
01:53:33,080 --> 01:53:35,240
Speaker 6: you just want to take a guy in the fourth

2542
01:53:35,360 --> 01:53:38,599
Speaker 6: round or the fifth round as just an added player

2543
01:53:38,760 --> 01:53:41,280
Speaker 6: into that competition and throw his name in the hat

2544
01:53:41,360 --> 01:53:43,519
Speaker 6: to I think he could do that as well and

2545
01:53:43,600 --> 01:53:46,679
Speaker 6: feel pretty good about him potentially coming out as the starter.

2546
01:53:46,840 --> 01:53:50,320
Speaker 6: But there's a bunch of really good early Day two

2547
01:53:50,800 --> 01:53:53,120
Speaker 6: guards as well if you wanted to go that direction. Now,

2548
01:53:53,120 --> 01:53:55,640
Speaker 6: I'm not necessarily saying you should or need to, but

2549
01:53:56,320 --> 01:53:58,280
Speaker 6: I think that there's a way to elevate that room

2550
01:53:58,320 --> 01:53:58,760
Speaker 6: even more.

2551
01:54:00,000 --> 01:54:02,439
Speaker 5: Sorry, can I just say, like I just still can't believe,

2552
01:54:02,479 --> 01:54:04,880
Speaker 5: like col Strange was the first round pick three years ago,

2553
01:54:05,200 --> 01:54:07,840
Speaker 5: and like we're like kind of just throwing him to

2554
01:54:07,880 --> 01:54:10,479
Speaker 5: the side now, right Like no one's expecting anything from him.

2555
01:54:10,520 --> 01:54:13,360
Speaker 5: No one's really expect like maybe he wins the center job.

2556
01:54:13,760 --> 01:54:16,160
Speaker 5: No one's expecting him to take back the left guard job,

2557
01:54:16,720 --> 01:54:17,799
Speaker 5: you know, in any capacity.

2558
01:54:17,840 --> 01:54:20,960
Speaker 7: It's just it's crazy to me, Like I don't like,

2559
01:54:21,080 --> 01:54:23,240
Speaker 7: Oh yeah, I'm not. I think there's gonna be a

2560
01:54:23,280 --> 01:54:24,280
Speaker 7: first round pick three years.

2561
01:54:24,280 --> 01:54:25,519
Speaker 2: I think this is gonna be competent.

2562
01:54:25,720 --> 01:54:28,320
Speaker 7: Yeah. I think there's gonna be competition for those two jobs.

2563
01:54:28,400 --> 01:54:31,120
Speaker 7: I really do. I think that's what Mike Rabel and

2564
01:54:31,439 --> 01:54:33,760
Speaker 7: you know, Elliott Wolf and Ryan Cowden to trying to

2565
01:54:33,960 --> 01:54:36,960
Speaker 7: create competition for these for these spots.

2566
01:54:37,080 --> 01:54:38,120
Speaker 2: Let the survivor.

2567
01:54:38,120 --> 01:54:39,800
Speaker 5: I have to say one more thing, just on MIKEL Williams,

2568
01:54:39,800 --> 01:54:41,920
Speaker 5: who just went to San Francisco, which I He's one

2569
01:54:41,960 --> 01:54:43,880
Speaker 5: guy that I really thought was gonna go much higher

2570
01:54:43,920 --> 01:54:46,160
Speaker 5: than some of the projections I saw through. I just

2571
01:54:46,240 --> 01:54:46,640
Speaker 5: loved him.

2572
01:54:46,680 --> 01:54:47,320
Speaker 7: I thought he would have.

2573
01:54:47,320 --> 01:54:49,680
Speaker 5: Been a great pit fit for the Patriots. I camped

2574
01:54:49,760 --> 01:54:52,040
Speaker 5: him to Willie McGinnis a few times. You know, has

2575
01:54:52,080 --> 01:54:54,360
Speaker 5: that ability, could be a hand down guy, can stand up,

2576
01:54:54,720 --> 01:54:57,120
Speaker 5: really athletic, just scratching the surface. He's not gonna be

2577
01:54:57,120 --> 01:54:59,840
Speaker 5: twenty one till May twenty years old. He was just

2578
01:55:00,000 --> 01:55:01,760
Speaker 5: one of my favorite guys. I think that forty nine

2579
01:55:01,800 --> 01:55:02,680
Speaker 5: has got a really good player.

2580
01:55:02,800 --> 01:55:05,120
Speaker 6: It's almost unfair that the forty nine ers are picking

2581
01:55:05,160 --> 01:55:08,000
Speaker 6: eleven because obviously last year they had like a rash

2582
01:55:08,000 --> 01:55:10,080
Speaker 6: of injuries that went through their roster and is the

2583
01:55:10,240 --> 01:55:12,560
Speaker 6: only reason why they weren't in the hunt for the

2584
01:55:12,640 --> 01:55:15,560
Speaker 6: super Bowl again. And now they're gonna add Michael Williams

2585
01:55:15,600 --> 01:55:17,240
Speaker 6: to Nick Bosa and the rest of the guys that

2586
01:55:17,360 --> 01:55:20,840
Speaker 6: they have on the defensive line. I mean, forget about it, Like, yeah,

2587
01:55:20,880 --> 01:55:23,240
Speaker 6: he's a really good player. They run that four to

2588
01:55:23,280 --> 01:55:25,760
Speaker 6: three defense there in San Franco. He's going to be

2589
01:55:25,800 --> 01:55:28,160
Speaker 6: a four to three end, which is his best natural position,

2590
01:55:28,800 --> 01:55:30,680
Speaker 6: opposite of Nick Bosas. So there's going to see a

2591
01:55:30,720 --> 01:55:32,600
Speaker 6: ton of one on ones I'm sure on that uh

2592
01:55:33,080 --> 01:55:33,600
Speaker 6: weak side.

2593
01:55:34,560 --> 01:55:36,360
Speaker 2: Let's forget we get the Dallas war on.

2594
01:55:36,560 --> 01:55:41,320
Speaker 5: Here we go. Where's the day?

2595
01:55:41,920 --> 01:55:43,040
Speaker 6: We don't even know yet, we don't know.

2596
01:55:43,160 --> 01:55:47,200
Speaker 2: But whatever they got, so they got.

2597
01:55:47,480 --> 01:55:49,480
Speaker 6: They took Tyler Booker. So they took a guard.

2598
01:55:49,720 --> 01:55:53,240
Speaker 2: Okay, wow, yeah, look at they they're doing hands hands

2599
01:55:53,280 --> 01:55:53,640
Speaker 2: for guard.

2600
01:55:53,680 --> 01:55:55,000
Speaker 7: I wouldn't be doing that for a guard.

2601
01:55:55,760 --> 01:55:59,200
Speaker 6: They the Cowboys have a type they they love to draft,

2602
01:56:00,080 --> 01:56:05,400
Speaker 6: road grading offensive lineman. Just powerful, downhill gap scheme offensive lineman.

2603
01:56:05,520 --> 01:56:08,360
Speaker 6: That's exactly what Tyler Booker is. I thought that he

2604
01:56:08,400 --> 01:56:11,480
Speaker 6: would slip a little bit because of his athleticism. He

2605
01:56:11,640 --> 01:56:14,760
Speaker 6: really tested poorly, should not test like a first round pick.

2606
01:56:15,240 --> 01:56:17,920
Speaker 6: But if you want to get somebody on a gap scheme,

2607
01:56:18,040 --> 01:56:21,760
Speaker 6: right Paul and get some duo, get some double teams

2608
01:56:21,840 --> 01:56:24,840
Speaker 6: and run the ball downhill. You got your guy.

2609
01:56:25,520 --> 01:56:29,720
Speaker 2: Joe Wrightson, I absolutely love Evan's ability to cope. Boston

2610
01:56:29,800 --> 01:56:33,160
Speaker 2: sports people are whiny and negative constantly. Not Evan. Evan

2611
01:56:33,240 --> 01:56:35,640
Speaker 2: finds a way to be informed and entertaining without being

2612
01:56:35,680 --> 01:56:36,800
Speaker 2: a black rain cloud.

2613
01:56:36,960 --> 01:56:39,880
Speaker 7: So there you go. I want to second that for

2614
01:56:39,960 --> 01:56:42,720
Speaker 7: a second. And it was when Rabel started to talk.

2615
01:56:42,840 --> 01:56:45,280
Speaker 7: I was I was sort of patting Evan on the back.

2616
01:56:46,280 --> 01:56:49,080
Speaker 7: In less than thirty seconds. He like really diffused me,

2617
01:56:49,840 --> 01:56:52,280
Speaker 7: Like because I'm you know, I do. I know. I

2618
01:56:52,360 --> 01:56:54,200
Speaker 7: make fun of myself all the time, but there's truth

2619
01:56:54,280 --> 01:56:58,080
Speaker 7: in every sort of exaggerated joke. I get concerned about

2620
01:56:58,080 --> 01:57:00,800
Speaker 7: a lot of stuff because it's just inherent. I grew

2621
01:57:00,880 --> 01:57:02,960
Speaker 7: up a Boston sports fan, and I'm not really used

2622
01:57:02,960 --> 01:57:04,560
Speaker 7: to the way it's been the last twenty years. I'm

2623
01:57:04,640 --> 01:57:06,400
Speaker 7: used to the way it was the first thirty five

2624
01:57:06,480 --> 01:57:08,840
Speaker 7: years of my life. Right, I always think something bad

2625
01:57:08,960 --> 01:57:12,320
Speaker 7: is going to happen, and I worry about the arms

2626
01:57:12,360 --> 01:57:15,040
Speaker 7: and the history and everything, and like that Peter Scaronski

2627
01:57:15,120 --> 01:57:17,360
Speaker 7: thing that Evan threw out there like really diffused me,

2628
01:57:17,600 --> 01:57:20,080
Speaker 7: like calmed me right down. Well, I just think and

2629
01:57:20,160 --> 01:57:22,440
Speaker 7: it was logical, Like that was a great argument and

2630
01:57:22,520 --> 01:57:23,720
Speaker 7: it totally made sense.

2631
01:57:24,000 --> 01:57:28,000
Speaker 6: This has gotten my backside for a while now about

2632
01:57:28,000 --> 01:57:32,520
Speaker 6: the NFL is that every single tackle in college that

2633
01:57:33,520 --> 01:57:37,360
Speaker 6: has short arms, it's just automatic guard. It's just automatic

2634
01:57:37,520 --> 01:57:40,520
Speaker 6: and no matter what guard. And then we all look

2635
01:57:40,560 --> 01:57:44,160
Speaker 6: around in like you know, Week sixteen, and nobody has

2636
01:57:44,200 --> 01:57:46,320
Speaker 6: any left tackles and they're like, where are all the

2637
01:57:46,440 --> 01:57:48,720
Speaker 6: left tackles. It's like, well, you move them all inside

2638
01:57:48,800 --> 01:57:52,000
Speaker 6: to guard. So like maybe if you actually give these

2639
01:57:52,080 --> 01:57:55,360
Speaker 6: guys that really excelled in the FBS at playing tackle

2640
01:57:55,680 --> 01:57:59,160
Speaker 6: a chance at tackle, their natural position, then they wouldn't

2641
01:57:59,200 --> 01:58:00,960
Speaker 6: have an issue at tackle like every other.

2642
01:58:01,000 --> 01:58:04,000
Speaker 2: And I wonder, like, not only is there a dearth

2643
01:58:04,240 --> 01:58:08,080
Speaker 2: of left tackles, but is there a shortage of good

2644
01:58:08,320 --> 01:58:11,600
Speaker 2: offensive line coaches? I wonder how many of these organizations

2645
01:58:11,680 --> 01:58:14,080
Speaker 2: have an offensive line coaches? No, no, no, bring them

2646
01:58:14,160 --> 01:58:17,280
Speaker 2: to me. I'll make sure he can play left tackle.

2647
01:58:17,440 --> 01:58:19,480
Speaker 2: I wonder if there's not a lot of that going

2648
01:58:19,520 --> 01:58:20,600
Speaker 2: around in the NFL too.

2649
01:58:20,840 --> 01:58:23,320
Speaker 6: Yeah, and I just look at the Skeronski pick even

2650
01:58:23,400 --> 01:58:26,200
Speaker 6: further and and like he hasn't even been very good

2651
01:58:26,240 --> 01:58:29,520
Speaker 6: at guard, and and the natural instinct, you know, like

2652
01:58:29,600 --> 01:58:31,400
Speaker 6: we we we talk about, is that, oh, he'll be

2653
01:58:31,480 --> 01:58:32,240
Speaker 6: an All Pro guard.

2654
01:58:33,120 --> 01:58:35,160
Speaker 7: Right, that's the part that I'm saying. I'm gonna still

2655
01:58:35,240 --> 01:58:37,480
Speaker 7: put my I'm gonna put my foot down about that.

2656
01:58:37,640 --> 01:58:39,480
Speaker 7: I'll let you know when he's an All Pro guard,

2657
01:58:39,600 --> 01:58:40,720
Speaker 7: that's it, and that's his basement.

2658
01:58:40,800 --> 01:58:44,200
Speaker 6: What like, what if he actually what if Peter Skeronsky

2659
01:58:44,200 --> 01:58:46,840
Speaker 6: actually would have been a better tackle because he played

2660
01:58:46,880 --> 01:58:50,480
Speaker 6: there in the Dallas NFL career. It drives me nuts

2661
01:58:50,520 --> 01:58:51,400
Speaker 6: that this is what they do.

2662
01:58:52,120 --> 01:59:00,600
Speaker 2: And yeah, there is Dallas party. Drake may Scott in

2663
01:59:00,600 --> 01:59:03,320
Speaker 2: the UK says, it's not sexy, it's one for five

2664
01:59:03,400 --> 01:59:05,840
Speaker 2: and am here and we picked a tackle. It's not sexy,

2665
01:59:05,920 --> 01:59:09,360
Speaker 2: it's not clever, but it's necessary. I wasn't sure he

2666
01:59:09,400 --> 01:59:11,680
Speaker 2: could play ot in the NFL. But if Scar who

2667
01:59:11,800 --> 01:59:15,360
Speaker 2: was absolutely consulted, thinks he can, I'm all in. If

2668
01:59:15,400 --> 01:59:17,520
Speaker 2: he ends up at guard, this pick is a failure,

2669
01:59:17,920 --> 01:59:21,120
Speaker 2: I'm hopeful that won't happen. Love his attitude after being picked.

2670
01:59:22,280 --> 01:59:23,800
Speaker 5: I just to your point to have we went through

2671
01:59:23,920 --> 01:59:26,200
Speaker 5: how many guys there were that in this draft class

2672
01:59:26,240 --> 01:59:29,040
Speaker 5: that even have a chance to play left tackle out

2673
01:59:29,080 --> 01:59:31,440
Speaker 5: of the gate. And it's almost more selective than the

2674
01:59:31,520 --> 01:59:33,960
Speaker 5: quarterback position right now, Like there are guys that at

2675
01:59:34,040 --> 01:59:36,200
Speaker 5: least some of the quarterbacks like Sanders, like, well we'll

2676
01:59:36,200 --> 01:59:37,880
Speaker 5: give him a chance, right, Like some of these guys,

2677
01:59:38,120 --> 01:59:39,800
Speaker 5: like you said, they're not even getting a chance because

2678
01:59:39,800 --> 01:59:41,840
Speaker 5: of their physical measurements. Whereas at least some of the

2679
01:59:41,920 --> 01:59:43,920
Speaker 5: quarterbacks are going to get a chance. At least three

2680
01:59:43,920 --> 01:59:45,440
Speaker 5: of these guys are probably going to get a chance.

2681
01:59:46,240 --> 01:59:48,120
Speaker 5: But after the three that are already off the board,

2682
01:59:48,160 --> 01:59:49,840
Speaker 5: now we don't know. There's a whole bunch of big

2683
01:59:49,960 --> 01:59:52,680
Speaker 5: questions now with like Erstree and everybody else that's coming

2684
01:59:52,720 --> 01:59:53,800
Speaker 5: down the pipe, and all.

2685
01:59:53,720 --> 01:59:56,840
Speaker 6: Three tackles are gone, right, so so Membu, Banks and

2686
01:59:57,080 --> 01:59:59,720
Speaker 6: obviously Campbell are off the board. And we talked about

2687
01:59:59,760 --> 02:00:02,000
Speaker 6: this the top of the show. If you didn't get

2688
02:00:02,160 --> 02:00:02,920
Speaker 6: the tackle.

2689
02:00:02,720 --> 02:00:06,320
Speaker 7: Now like wish my drop dead spot. Yeah, I didn't

2690
02:00:06,320 --> 02:00:08,480
Speaker 7: want to go lower than ten because now if you

2691
02:00:08,520 --> 02:00:09,000
Speaker 7: think about it.

2692
02:00:09,000 --> 02:00:10,680
Speaker 6: And really you would have, you wouldn't have gone anybody.

2693
02:00:10,800 --> 02:00:13,080
Speaker 7: Well, but if Chicago went from ten to drop there

2694
02:00:13,120 --> 02:00:17,600
Speaker 7: taking someone different, you still you took one of the three. Right,

2695
02:00:17,800 --> 02:00:20,480
Speaker 7: So there's one of those three is still available? Probably

2696
02:00:20,800 --> 02:00:22,960
Speaker 7: yeahs because they're not. They wouldn't have moved up to

2697
02:00:23,000 --> 02:00:25,480
Speaker 7: take a tackle. They would have moved up to take genty.

2698
02:00:25,680 --> 02:00:29,440
Speaker 2: Hey, Matt Morrell, are we do? We have Will Campbell? Ready?

2699
02:00:30,760 --> 02:00:37,320
Speaker 2: Did I wake you up? I'm sorry, he's nodding his head. Yeah, Okay,

2700
02:00:37,440 --> 02:00:39,600
Speaker 2: let's go to Will Campbell talking to the meet. Let's

2701
02:00:39,600 --> 02:00:40,640
Speaker 2: hear from the guy himself.

2702
02:00:45,720 --> 02:00:48,080
Speaker 22: Hi, Well, congratulations, what's going on?

2703
02:00:48,280 --> 02:00:48,600
Speaker 14: Thank you?

2704
02:00:48,680 --> 02:00:49,440
Speaker 34: I appreciate it.

2705
02:00:51,040 --> 02:00:53,680
Speaker 23: Guys, we're gonna we'll go ahead and start with questions

2706
02:00:53,720 --> 02:00:55,960
Speaker 23: in the room here and then we'll possibly go to

2707
02:00:56,080 --> 02:00:59,680
Speaker 23: ones that are online. So go ahead and all wait, guys,

2708
02:01:00,000 --> 02:01:01,800
Speaker 23: produce yourself as you asked the question.

2709
02:01:02,760 --> 02:01:05,280
Speaker 4: Well, Mark Daniels to cover of the Patriots for Mass Live.

2710
02:01:05,880 --> 02:01:07,440
Speaker 22: Coach Rabel told us that he got.

2711
02:01:07,320 --> 02:01:12,600
Speaker 9: To works on last week and there's a report out

2712
02:01:12,600 --> 02:01:15,440
Speaker 9: there from Pete Themmeill that you put Rabel on his butt.

2713
02:01:15,640 --> 02:01:18,160
Speaker 22: Just curious on what it was like working with your

2714
02:01:18,280 --> 02:01:19,440
Speaker 22: working out with your new head coach.

2715
02:01:19,960 --> 02:01:21,160
Speaker 34: Yeah, I mean it was amazing.

2716
02:01:21,440 --> 02:01:21,560
Speaker 7: Uh.

2717
02:01:21,840 --> 02:01:24,160
Speaker 34: You know, him and some of the other staff came

2718
02:01:24,240 --> 02:01:26,240
Speaker 34: in and you know, we had a great work out,

2719
02:01:26,320 --> 02:01:28,440
Speaker 34: got some good work in. They taught me some some

2720
02:01:28,640 --> 02:01:30,760
Speaker 34: new stuff and yeah, I mean I got him.

2721
02:01:31,000 --> 02:01:32,280
Speaker 5: Uh, I'm not gonna lie.

2722
02:01:32,360 --> 02:01:33,440
Speaker 7: I got him on the ground.

2723
02:01:34,040 --> 02:01:34,160
Speaker 5: Uh.

2724
02:01:34,480 --> 02:01:36,720
Speaker 34: And then we had a great lunch after a bunch

2725
02:01:36,800 --> 02:01:39,280
Speaker 34: of great guys. I'm just super excited for this opportunity.

2726
02:01:41,800 --> 02:01:43,440
Speaker 6: Well, what was it, Sophie.

2727
02:01:43,520 --> 02:01:45,680
Speaker 22: I reported on the Patriots for eight Z Sports.

2728
02:01:46,000 --> 02:01:46,920
Speaker 6: I'm just curious what it.

2729
02:01:47,000 --> 02:01:48,680
Speaker 33: Was like to hear your name called and what it

2730
02:01:48,800 --> 02:01:52,040
Speaker 33: means to play for an organization like the Patriots.

2731
02:01:52,640 --> 02:01:56,640
Speaker 34: I managed everything. I played for a historic program at LSU,

2732
02:01:56,760 --> 02:01:59,760
Speaker 34: and now to play for one in New England. You know, Uh,

2733
02:02:00,040 --> 02:02:03,160
Speaker 34: I guess I'm lucky. But I'm just super excited and

2734
02:02:03,280 --> 02:02:05,600
Speaker 34: thankful to wear that logo and on the side of

2735
02:02:05,640 --> 02:02:08,160
Speaker 34: my helmet and across the front of my chest is

2736
02:02:08,240 --> 02:02:10,240
Speaker 34: a complete honor and I'm just excited.

2737
02:02:11,560 --> 02:02:14,280
Speaker 22: Well, Chris Price with the Boston Globe, I'm curious.

2738
02:02:14,320 --> 02:02:16,400
Speaker 35: I know that you have a relationship with Keishan Boodie,

2739
02:02:16,440 --> 02:02:18,360
Speaker 35: but in terms of guys who are already in the

2740
02:02:18,440 --> 02:02:19,400
Speaker 35: New England locker room.

2741
02:02:19,760 --> 02:02:21,600
Speaker 22: Have you been able to connect with any of them,

2742
02:02:22,240 --> 02:02:23,520
Speaker 22: and who might some of those guys be.

2743
02:02:24,560 --> 02:02:27,520
Speaker 34: I've had a chance to you know, I know Jacquelin

2744
02:02:27,600 --> 02:02:30,240
Speaker 34: Roy as well. He was one of my teammates. Him

2745
02:02:30,320 --> 02:02:32,480
Speaker 34: and Kashan Boudier, you know, the two that I know

2746
02:02:32,640 --> 02:02:33,000
Speaker 34: the best.

2747
02:02:33,600 --> 02:02:33,720
Speaker 36: Uh.

2748
02:02:34,080 --> 02:02:35,840
Speaker 34: You know, I've seen some of the other guys around

2749
02:02:35,920 --> 02:02:38,360
Speaker 34: the facility when I was there on my Top thirty visit.

2750
02:02:39,440 --> 02:02:41,160
Speaker 34: But you know, I'm just super excited to get up

2751
02:02:41,160 --> 02:02:42,040
Speaker 34: there and meet the rest.

2752
02:02:41,960 --> 02:02:42,400
Speaker 36: Of the guys.

2753
02:02:44,080 --> 02:02:47,400
Speaker 33: Hey Will congratulations, Nicole Miner would have in Providence.

2754
02:02:47,920 --> 02:02:50,200
Speaker 22: How excited are you to work with Drake May and

2755
02:02:50,360 --> 02:02:52,160
Speaker 22: ultimately to protect him on the field.

2756
02:02:52,760 --> 02:02:55,080
Speaker 34: Yeah, I'm super excited. He's a heck of a player,

2757
02:02:55,400 --> 02:02:58,080
Speaker 34: a heck of a leader, and you know he's the

2758
02:02:58,160 --> 02:03:01,360
Speaker 34: commander of our offense. I only excited to play with him,

2759
02:03:01,440 --> 02:03:03,839
Speaker 34: but you know the rest of the team. I'm excited

2760
02:03:03,880 --> 02:03:06,760
Speaker 34: for the future that we have in Foxborough and I

2761
02:03:06,800 --> 02:03:08,400
Speaker 34: think we got a special season coming.

2762
02:03:10,280 --> 02:03:14,360
Speaker 22: And well, congratulations. Sam Knox with wpr I TV and Providence.

2763
02:03:15,160 --> 02:03:17,440
Speaker 22: What were your oppressions watching the Patriots growing up? Any

2764
02:03:17,480 --> 02:03:18,520
Speaker 22: memories that kind of stick.

2765
02:03:18,360 --> 02:03:19,520
Speaker 7: Out to you? Yeah.

2766
02:03:19,520 --> 02:03:22,520
Speaker 34: I mean they always used to just dominate. Every time

2767
02:03:22,560 --> 02:03:25,160
Speaker 34: that I turned the TV on and the Patriots were playing,

2768
02:03:25,480 --> 02:03:28,160
Speaker 34: they were dominating whoever it was, you know, Tom Brady,

2769
02:03:28,840 --> 02:03:33,360
Speaker 34: Danny m Mondola, Julian Edelman, Gronk, all those guys just

2770
02:03:33,560 --> 02:03:37,520
Speaker 34: dominating throughout the years that I was growing up. So

2771
02:03:38,000 --> 02:03:40,400
Speaker 34: that's all I remember is them just winning.

2772
02:03:44,600 --> 02:03:47,280
Speaker 33: Hey, will nicoleang Boston Globe, When did you know that

2773
02:03:47,360 --> 02:03:49,360
Speaker 33: you were gonna be drafted by the Patriots.

2774
02:03:51,400 --> 02:03:53,360
Speaker 34: This is where I've wanted to be since the start.

2775
02:03:54,120 --> 02:03:57,760
Speaker 34: Elliott Wolf came to my practice whenever I was probably

2776
02:03:57,800 --> 02:03:59,960
Speaker 34: about week five of the season, and I told him

2777
02:04:00,080 --> 02:04:01,040
Speaker 34: this is where I wanted to be.

2778
02:04:01,840 --> 02:04:01,960
Speaker 31: Uh.

2779
02:04:02,160 --> 02:04:05,480
Speaker 35: And you know, we parents, I know, it's about the

2780
02:04:06,320 --> 02:04:12,240
Speaker 35: appreciating their son grow up. That's awesome.

2781
02:04:12,480 --> 02:04:14,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's an interesting thing because a lot of times

2782
02:04:15,000 --> 02:04:16,720
Speaker 2: this day and age, some of the parents can get

2783
02:04:16,760 --> 02:04:19,720
Speaker 2: a bed, that's for sure.

2784
02:04:27,360 --> 02:04:29,400
Speaker 13: Yeah.

2785
02:04:30,600 --> 02:04:34,000
Speaker 7: So there, sorry about that. No, it's all good.

2786
02:04:34,280 --> 02:04:36,240
Speaker 6: Sorry. Well, so you were saying that Elliott game twenty

2787
02:04:36,240 --> 02:04:38,400
Speaker 6: of your practices in week five and he told them

2788
02:04:38,440 --> 02:04:38,800
Speaker 6: you wanted to.

2789
02:04:38,760 --> 02:04:39,360
Speaker 36: Be in New England.

2790
02:04:39,680 --> 02:04:41,600
Speaker 34: Yeah, I mean I told him, and you know, our

2791
02:04:41,680 --> 02:04:44,520
Speaker 34: area scout Alex Brooks that I wanted to be a

2792
02:04:44,600 --> 02:04:47,480
Speaker 34: Patriot and that happened in the middle of the season.

2793
02:04:48,000 --> 02:04:51,240
Speaker 34: I've had great interactions with you know, everybody throughout the process,

2794
02:04:51,440 --> 02:04:54,560
Speaker 34: a lot of them, you know, private workouts, thirty visits,

2795
02:04:54,640 --> 02:04:57,200
Speaker 34: just being up there, getting to meet everybody, and you know,

2796
02:04:57,280 --> 02:04:59,480
Speaker 34: it's just where I wanted to be, and you know,

2797
02:04:59,560 --> 02:05:01,040
Speaker 34: I'm just super excited to get there.

2798
02:05:02,240 --> 02:05:04,800
Speaker 26: Hey Will Karen greg gave from mass Live.

2799
02:05:06,000 --> 02:05:09,600
Speaker 8: If you were to describe your playing style to the

2800
02:05:09,720 --> 02:05:12,560
Speaker 8: New England fan base, how would you describe it?

2801
02:05:13,520 --> 02:05:13,920
Speaker 36: Nasty?

2802
02:05:14,400 --> 02:05:16,920
Speaker 34: Uh, you know, I'm going to go out there and

2803
02:05:17,360 --> 02:05:20,320
Speaker 34: give everything I have, every single play to you know,

2804
02:05:20,480 --> 02:05:23,480
Speaker 34: protect my teammates, protect my quarterback, and just put the

2805
02:05:23,920 --> 02:05:26,200
Speaker 34: you know, the Patriots in the best position possible to

2806
02:05:26,440 --> 02:05:27,480
Speaker 34: you know, help win games.

2807
02:05:27,520 --> 02:05:32,560
Speaker 22: On Sundays, he will Chris Mason with Mats Love. You

2808
02:05:32,640 --> 02:05:34,240
Speaker 22: said a few times that New England is where you.

2809
02:05:34,240 --> 02:05:34,640
Speaker 14: Want it to be.

2810
02:05:34,880 --> 02:05:35,400
Speaker 7: Why is that?

2811
02:05:36,280 --> 02:05:38,560
Speaker 34: I just think that the culture and you know, the

2812
02:05:38,840 --> 02:05:42,600
Speaker 34: New England Patriot logo speaks for itself. I believe in

2813
02:05:42,640 --> 02:05:44,760
Speaker 34: the guys in that locker room. I believe in the

2814
02:05:44,840 --> 02:05:48,680
Speaker 34: quarterback and coach of rabel Is. You know, my kind

2815
02:05:48,720 --> 02:05:52,440
Speaker 34: of guy. He's all ball, no bs, and that's what

2816
02:05:52,560 --> 02:05:55,480
Speaker 34: I want to play for. He's very hands on, he

2817
02:05:55,640 --> 02:05:58,320
Speaker 34: loves the players that he coaches, and you know, I

2818
02:05:58,480 --> 02:05:59,400
Speaker 34: just want to be a part of that.

2819
02:06:03,040 --> 02:06:03,200
Speaker 1: Well.

2820
02:06:03,320 --> 02:06:06,240
Speaker 23: Greg Goodard from Boston Sports Journal, with all the discussion

2821
02:06:06,280 --> 02:06:09,040
Speaker 23: about your arm length, whether you can play left tackle

2822
02:06:09,080 --> 02:06:09,800
Speaker 23: in the league, are you.

2823
02:06:10,040 --> 02:06:11,960
Speaker 22: Entering this league with more of a chip on your

2824
02:06:12,000 --> 02:06:13,440
Speaker 22: shoulder than probably normal.

2825
02:06:14,640 --> 02:06:17,600
Speaker 34: I'm just excited to, you know, get any opportunity that

2826
02:06:18,000 --> 02:06:20,120
Speaker 34: you know, presents his self to, you know, help the

2827
02:06:20,160 --> 02:06:23,280
Speaker 34: team in any way that I can, wherever that might be.

2828
02:06:24,080 --> 02:06:25,879
Speaker 34: And I'm just excited to be a Patriot.

2829
02:06:28,320 --> 02:06:30,760
Speaker 26: Hey will thank you for twelve Sports in Rhode Island.

2830
02:06:31,760 --> 02:06:33,440
Speaker 26: I don't know if you've had a chance to talk

2831
02:06:33,520 --> 02:06:35,640
Speaker 26: with coach Kelly at all. He's a New England guy.

2832
02:06:35,720 --> 02:06:38,480
Speaker 26: Did he give you any tips about what to expect

2833
02:06:38,520 --> 02:06:40,600
Speaker 26: in New England? And I don't know if he showed

2834
02:06:40,640 --> 02:06:41,600
Speaker 26: you that New England accent.

2835
02:06:41,640 --> 02:06:42,440
Speaker 22: I know people pick on.

2836
02:06:42,520 --> 02:06:42,840
Speaker 13: Him for that.

2837
02:06:45,200 --> 02:06:48,000
Speaker 34: Yeah, I mean, Coach Kelly's whole his Both of his

2838
02:06:48,120 --> 02:06:50,320
Speaker 34: sons have been telling me that their uncle lives up

2839
02:06:50,360 --> 02:06:52,560
Speaker 34: there right outside of Foxburg, and he's gonna get me

2840
02:06:52,680 --> 02:06:56,160
Speaker 34: set up and coach. Coach Kelly told my dad he's

2841
02:06:56,160 --> 02:06:58,560
Speaker 34: gonna have to cook y'all some gumbo. So we'll see

2842
02:06:58,640 --> 02:06:59,280
Speaker 34: what that's about.

2843
02:07:01,880 --> 02:07:06,120
Speaker 3: Anything else, Guys, Will Nicol Valley from mass last you've

2844
02:07:06,160 --> 02:07:09,040
Speaker 3: spent much time for any outside of the visits in

2845
02:07:09,160 --> 02:07:11,200
Speaker 3: New England up north of the Massachusetts area.

2846
02:07:11,240 --> 02:07:12,320
Speaker 37: Do you have any connections up here?

2847
02:07:13,440 --> 02:07:14,200
Speaker 14: No, sir, I do not.

2848
02:07:14,440 --> 02:07:16,400
Speaker 34: You know, whenever I came up on my thirty visit,

2849
02:07:16,600 --> 02:07:18,400
Speaker 34: that was the first time that I had been up there.

2850
02:07:18,960 --> 02:07:21,360
Speaker 34: That was awesome place. I'm super excited to get there.

2851
02:07:24,000 --> 02:07:24,160
Speaker 7: Will.

2852
02:07:24,240 --> 02:07:25,560
Speaker 22: We'll see you tomorrow morning.

2853
02:07:25,840 --> 02:07:28,000
Speaker 34: Yes, sir, sounds good. Thank you. I appreciate it.

2854
02:07:28,600 --> 02:07:29,320
Speaker 7: Have a great night.

2855
02:07:29,360 --> 02:07:31,760
Speaker 23: You've got a lot of media stuff to do while

2856
02:07:31,760 --> 02:07:32,080
Speaker 23: you're there.

2857
02:07:32,160 --> 02:07:34,640
Speaker 22: But talk about toughness.

2858
02:07:35,480 --> 02:07:38,360
Speaker 2: To me, I feel like, all right, that's that's Will

2859
02:07:38,440 --> 02:07:42,000
Speaker 2: Campbell and straight from the horse's mouth, as it were.

2860
02:07:42,680 --> 02:07:44,720
Speaker 7: Yeah. So I'll tell you the thing that he said

2861
02:07:44,720 --> 02:07:46,520
Speaker 7: that I liked the most, And it wasn't necessarily that

2862
02:07:46,600 --> 02:07:47,640
Speaker 7: Will Campbell said it.

2863
02:07:47,800 --> 02:07:48,880
Speaker 5: He put on his butt.

2864
02:07:51,040 --> 02:07:54,120
Speaker 7: He's all ball, no bs. Yeah, And I think that's

2865
02:07:54,160 --> 02:07:56,360
Speaker 7: the thing I'm probably most excited about the twenty five

2866
02:07:56,440 --> 02:07:57,200
Speaker 7: Patriots about it.

2867
02:07:57,400 --> 02:08:00,560
Speaker 2: I mean and Will Campbell smacks of someone who can

2868
02:08:01,080 --> 02:08:02,680
Speaker 2: has a good BS detector.

2869
02:08:02,960 --> 02:08:04,760
Speaker 5: I mean it's like him and Verybell cut from the

2870
02:08:04,800 --> 02:08:06,960
Speaker 5: same cloth. That's why, like this whole story coming out

2871
02:08:07,000 --> 02:08:09,320
Speaker 5: of him putting Rabel on his butt and Rabel, I

2872
02:08:09,400 --> 02:08:11,000
Speaker 5: mean we talked about it before it even was out

2873
02:08:11,120 --> 02:08:13,200
Speaker 5: like that. That's how Rabele is. He gets to get

2874
02:08:13,200 --> 02:08:15,840
Speaker 5: in there, and clearly Will Campbell respects that as well.

2875
02:08:16,000 --> 02:08:17,600
Speaker 5: I mean it's I think it's a really good match

2876
02:08:17,680 --> 02:08:19,840
Speaker 5: for a head coach. It's just a weird thing to say,

2877
02:08:19,960 --> 02:08:22,000
Speaker 5: like a it's a great match for the offensive tackle

2878
02:08:22,040 --> 02:08:23,760
Speaker 5: and the head coach. But it is like these two

2879
02:08:23,840 --> 02:08:26,400
Speaker 5: guys seem very much alike, and I think it should

2880
02:08:26,400 --> 02:08:26,920
Speaker 5: be a good match.

2881
02:08:27,120 --> 02:08:29,520
Speaker 6: Yeah, you have a you know him talking about Elliott

2882
02:08:29,560 --> 02:08:32,080
Speaker 6: Wolf going there in week five of the season.

2883
02:08:31,920 --> 02:08:33,760
Speaker 2: And save us. Can you come out now?

2884
02:08:33,840 --> 02:08:34,040
Speaker 26: Yeah?

2885
02:08:34,360 --> 02:08:38,800
Speaker 6: Right, and already at practice. And I believe him when

2886
02:08:38,800 --> 02:08:40,440
Speaker 6: he says that he wanted to be New England the

2887
02:08:40,920 --> 02:08:43,680
Speaker 6: entire time. I think that that was genuine. And you know,

2888
02:08:43,760 --> 02:08:46,480
Speaker 6: you go back to well, you know, when were they

2889
02:08:46,640 --> 02:08:48,640
Speaker 6: convicted about the pick and you know, were they one

2890
02:08:48,680 --> 02:08:51,720
Speaker 6: hundred percent sold? Well, I think Elliott Wolf being down

2891
02:08:51,760 --> 02:08:54,120
Speaker 6: in Baton Rouge in some random week of the college

2892
02:08:54,120 --> 02:08:57,000
Speaker 6: football season, tells you that they they had had their

2893
02:08:57,080 --> 02:08:58,760
Speaker 6: eye on Will Campbell for quite some time.

2894
02:08:58,800 --> 02:08:59,320
Speaker 7: Oh, no doubt.

2895
02:08:59,320 --> 02:09:00,920
Speaker 5: We got to get rid of the Jets green suit.

2896
02:09:00,960 --> 02:09:04,480
Speaker 5: He's got on though, that that green that's get.

2897
02:09:04,080 --> 02:09:09,240
Speaker 2: Some So as as they said on the call, we'll

2898
02:09:09,320 --> 02:09:12,680
Speaker 2: have Will Campbell here in in the house tomorrow. He'll

2899
02:09:12,720 --> 02:09:15,480
Speaker 2: do the car car wash at all our first round

2900
02:09:15,520 --> 02:09:18,040
Speaker 2: picks do, including being out in the field with the

2901
02:09:18,120 --> 02:09:21,280
Speaker 2: crafts and holding up the jersey. We'll have him in

2902
02:09:21,360 --> 02:09:23,320
Speaker 2: our studio. We'll do a one on one with him,

2903
02:09:23,320 --> 02:09:25,880
Speaker 2: and we'll bring him in here. Yea, so we'll get

2904
02:09:25,920 --> 02:09:29,040
Speaker 2: to see him live and in person. Yeah, so I

2905
02:09:29,080 --> 02:09:30,320
Speaker 2: can gush all over him.

2906
02:09:31,880 --> 02:09:32,080
Speaker 7: You can.

2907
02:09:36,760 --> 02:09:39,320
Speaker 2: He took it. He took it in a dark.

2908
02:09:39,160 --> 02:09:44,320
Speaker 7: Place, negative, sneaky, dirty.

2909
02:09:44,400 --> 02:09:47,360
Speaker 2: The guy that looks like he's going to church, you know.

2910
02:09:50,680 --> 02:09:58,800
Speaker 7: Gosh, you can tell him how he was banging the

2911
02:09:58,840 --> 02:09:59,400
Speaker 7: table guy.

2912
02:09:59,560 --> 02:10:02,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, we have a thing we call it bt T.

2913
02:10:03,080 --> 02:10:04,360
Speaker 2: You're a bang the table guy.

2914
02:10:04,480 --> 02:10:06,840
Speaker 5: You banged it before the thing even started. You were

2915
02:10:06,880 --> 02:10:10,760
Speaker 5: banging the table for him. So I'll be good tomorrow.

2916
02:10:11,160 --> 02:10:11,720
Speaker 5: It's so fun.

2917
02:10:11,880 --> 02:10:14,120
Speaker 7: I mean, not Mike, I love tomorrow.

2918
02:10:14,160 --> 02:10:16,800
Speaker 5: I love. It's one of my favorite. The day is nice,

2919
02:10:16,880 --> 02:10:19,720
Speaker 5: the weather's getting nice, is there, leaves are coming out.

2920
02:10:19,800 --> 02:10:21,960
Speaker 5: We got a new guy, we got a left tackle.

2921
02:10:22,040 --> 02:10:24,760
Speaker 7: Finally, you can set a farmer's almanac. So this is

2922
02:10:24,800 --> 02:10:30,680
Speaker 7: what will be the nicest weekend of the spring every year. Thursday, Friday,

2923
02:10:32,080 --> 02:10:35,360
Speaker 7: late April Saturday supposed to be supposed to be little Raneus.

2924
02:10:35,440 --> 02:10:37,760
Speaker 7: There there you go, which makes sense since it would

2925
02:10:37,760 --> 02:10:38,640
Speaker 7: be an early day for us.

2926
02:10:39,240 --> 02:10:42,920
Speaker 2: So let's catch people up. Ted McMillan, we went went

2927
02:10:42,960 --> 02:10:47,560
Speaker 2: to Arizona. I believe you went to Carolina. H Kelvin

2928
02:10:47,640 --> 02:10:51,120
Speaker 2: Banks went to the Saints. Colston Lovelin went to the Bears.

2929
02:10:51,200 --> 02:10:54,680
Speaker 2: That's a surprise. Paul's guy, MIKEL. Williams went to the

2930
02:10:54,760 --> 02:10:56,480
Speaker 2: forty nine Ers. Mike's Mike's guy.

2931
02:10:56,480 --> 02:10:56,920
Speaker 7: I'm sorry.

2932
02:10:57,160 --> 02:11:00,280
Speaker 2: Tyler Booker, the guard went to the Cowboys. We talked

2933
02:11:00,320 --> 02:11:04,240
Speaker 2: about that. Kenneth Grant, the defensive tackle went to the Dolphins.

2934
02:11:04,360 --> 02:11:06,840
Speaker 7: Goes back to back with to the only two real

2935
02:11:06,960 --> 02:11:09,680
Speaker 7: surprising picks. To me, yeah, I thought that that's a

2936
02:11:09,720 --> 02:11:10,280
Speaker 7: little early.

2937
02:11:10,200 --> 02:11:10,680
Speaker 2: For over that.

2938
02:11:10,800 --> 02:11:14,160
Speaker 7: I love the Dolphins man the Tyler Booker, they reach

2939
02:11:14,240 --> 02:11:14,800
Speaker 7: on every.

2940
02:11:14,680 --> 02:11:19,080
Speaker 2: Pick and Tyler Warren. The tight end went to the Colts.

2941
02:11:19,520 --> 02:11:21,480
Speaker 7: Yeah, and the Colts haven't had a tight end and forever.

2942
02:11:21,560 --> 02:11:22,360
Speaker 7: So that's a good picture.

2943
02:11:23,240 --> 02:11:26,040
Speaker 2: Will say, I'll give you bred to Paul's instincts so

2944
02:11:26,240 --> 02:11:29,320
Speaker 2: far or right when it comes to Sanders, Yeah, no,

2945
02:11:29,440 --> 02:11:29,960
Speaker 2: he's right now.

2946
02:11:30,000 --> 02:11:33,440
Speaker 7: I had Paul to win the bet fifteen to Oh yeah,

2947
02:11:33,640 --> 02:11:34,040
Speaker 7: we say.

2948
02:11:33,920 --> 02:11:37,280
Speaker 2: Top fifty, top fifteen. The Falcons aren't taking them in

2949
02:11:37,400 --> 02:11:38,080
Speaker 2: top half of them.

2950
02:11:38,120 --> 02:11:40,720
Speaker 5: I have to buy apaulow jersey, although that jersey might

2951
02:11:40,760 --> 02:11:42,400
Speaker 5: still comes through and then maybe we all get we

2952
02:11:42,400 --> 02:11:43,080
Speaker 5: all get each I.

2953
02:11:43,120 --> 02:11:44,720
Speaker 7: Just gotta I gotta sweat out of trade.

2954
02:11:44,920 --> 02:11:49,120
Speaker 6: But I really love the Falcon to fit for Colston

2955
02:11:49,200 --> 02:11:52,080
Speaker 6: Loveland in Chicago. Sam Laporter, right, yeah, I didn't know

2956
02:11:52,120 --> 02:11:54,160
Speaker 6: if they were going to have the kahonas to draft

2957
02:11:54,240 --> 02:11:56,720
Speaker 6: him that high with the injuries that he has the

2958
02:11:56,800 --> 02:12:00,360
Speaker 6: ac joint, but he is a Sam Laporta clone. You

2959
02:12:00,480 --> 02:12:03,240
Speaker 6: put him into Ben Johnson offense and he's going to

2960
02:12:03,280 --> 02:12:05,880
Speaker 6: be a dynamic pass catcher. I mean, that's a.

2961
02:12:05,880 --> 02:12:08,000
Speaker 7: Group that what Chicago was doing. I gotta be honest.

2962
02:12:09,240 --> 02:12:10,720
Speaker 6: Yeah, they have a lot of talent, you know, I

2963
02:12:10,760 --> 02:12:12,280
Speaker 6: don't know if they're going to get the coaching, but

2964
02:12:12,360 --> 02:12:13,160
Speaker 6: they have a ton of talent.

2965
02:12:13,240 --> 02:12:16,040
Speaker 2: Are you surprised that Loveland went ahead of Warren a

2966
02:12:16,080 --> 02:12:16,440
Speaker 2: little bit?

2967
02:12:16,440 --> 02:12:18,440
Speaker 5: But I'd keep Evan credit on that. I think he

2968
02:12:18,600 --> 02:12:20,800
Speaker 5: was all over Loveland, and you know, I think a

2969
02:12:21,640 --> 02:12:23,160
Speaker 5: little bit about him going above Warren.

2970
02:12:23,280 --> 02:12:26,000
Speaker 7: It was fit. He's like you know, and Evan talked

2971
02:12:26,000 --> 02:12:27,840
Speaker 7: a lot about this. I don't know. It might have

2972
02:12:27,920 --> 02:12:29,480
Speaker 7: been Mike when you were I think it would have

2973
02:12:29,480 --> 02:12:32,360
Speaker 7: been Tuesday when you and I were talking, Like in

2974
02:12:32,640 --> 02:12:35,839
Speaker 7: a certain system he fits better than Warren and other systems,

2975
02:12:35,880 --> 02:12:38,440
Speaker 7: it's Warren over Lovelan. So it depended on you sort

2976
02:12:38,440 --> 02:12:39,320
Speaker 7: of the eye of the beholder.

2977
02:12:39,440 --> 02:12:41,960
Speaker 6: Yeah, Loveland is a more dynamic receiver. He's a more

2978
02:12:42,040 --> 02:12:46,760
Speaker 6: dynamic playmaker. Uh, definitely a dynamic, more dynamic route runner

2979
02:12:46,880 --> 02:12:48,800
Speaker 6: than Tyler Warren. Tyler Warren is a little bit more

2980
02:12:48,880 --> 02:12:51,800
Speaker 6: well rounded. But if you kind of put them in

2981
02:12:51,880 --> 02:12:54,880
Speaker 6: those two buckets, like the Travis Kelcey and the Kronk bucket,

2982
02:12:55,160 --> 02:12:58,879
Speaker 6: you know, Loveland's Travis Kelcey, you know, and and Warren's

2983
02:12:58,920 --> 02:13:03,120
Speaker 6: more Gronkowski or you know, really with Loveland, I would

2984
02:13:03,120 --> 02:13:05,240
Speaker 6: say brought Bowers right, Like that's the type of player

2985
02:13:05,280 --> 02:13:08,240
Speaker 6: that you're getting with him if he is healthy. If

2986
02:13:08,280 --> 02:13:11,600
Speaker 6: I'm a Patriots fan right now, I'm feeling okay about

2987
02:13:11,640 --> 02:13:14,720
Speaker 6: what the other AFC East teams did. Armond Membu to

2988
02:13:14,760 --> 02:13:16,640
Speaker 6: the Jets makes a lot of sense for them to

2989
02:13:16,720 --> 02:13:18,680
Speaker 6: round out their offensive line. That's a fine things.

2990
02:13:19,600 --> 02:13:19,840
Speaker 7: Yep.

2991
02:13:20,160 --> 02:13:23,200
Speaker 6: Kenneth Grant though, to the Dolphins, just I chuckled at

2992
02:13:23,240 --> 02:13:26,400
Speaker 6: that one, because all they do is is draft athletes.

2993
02:13:26,520 --> 02:13:28,640
Speaker 6: They don't really care about anything else. They just care

2994
02:13:28,680 --> 02:13:32,880
Speaker 6: about athleticism. He is a freaks list athlete, but he's

2995
02:13:32,920 --> 02:13:36,880
Speaker 6: an interior run stuffer. He didn't ever really rise to

2996
02:13:37,000 --> 02:13:42,000
Speaker 6: that level at Michigan and really play to his athleticism fully.

2997
02:13:42,760 --> 02:13:46,360
Speaker 6: Did in spurts, didn't flashes, but wasn't overall consistent. But

2998
02:13:47,080 --> 02:13:51,400
Speaker 6: this is a big interior run stuffing defensive lineman. They

2999
02:13:51,520 --> 02:13:53,320
Speaker 6: needed it, like it was a need for that team

3000
02:13:53,400 --> 02:13:55,760
Speaker 6: in terms of shoring up the middle of their defense.

3001
02:13:55,880 --> 02:13:57,560
Speaker 6: But it's not a guy that I'm like, Oh, the

3002
02:13:57,640 --> 02:13:59,720
Speaker 6: Dolphins got Kenneth Grant, like we're in trouble.

3003
02:14:00,000 --> 02:14:02,080
Speaker 5: They just like, oh, what's the local kid on the

3004
02:14:02,120 --> 02:14:02,720
Speaker 5: Michigan kid?

3005
02:14:02,800 --> 02:14:02,920
Speaker 14: Right?

3006
02:14:03,160 --> 02:14:06,840
Speaker 5: They went to the to the Raiders, that's Christian Wilkins. Yeah, sorry,

3007
02:14:06,920 --> 02:14:09,240
Speaker 5: not a Michigan kid. But still that's just like that's

3008
02:14:09,280 --> 02:14:11,960
Speaker 5: what you get in Like you had that guy, then

3009
02:14:12,000 --> 02:14:14,240
Speaker 5: you let that guy walk, and then two years later.

3010
02:14:14,360 --> 02:14:17,080
Speaker 5: I mean i'd say Wilkins is. I mean, he's a

3011
02:14:17,160 --> 02:14:19,240
Speaker 5: proven pro, but I think he's the more well rounded

3012
02:14:19,280 --> 02:14:21,640
Speaker 5: player than what they're getting with Grant. Not exactly the same.

3013
02:14:21,800 --> 02:14:23,880
Speaker 6: Like I would say right now, just looking at the board,

3014
02:14:23,920 --> 02:14:26,400
Speaker 6: Booker and Grant going back to back picks are the

3015
02:14:26,440 --> 02:14:29,480
Speaker 6: biggest reaches so far. Just based off the consensus boards

3016
02:14:30,120 --> 02:14:32,400
Speaker 6: in the media, most people thought Kenneth Grant would be

3017
02:14:32,800 --> 02:14:34,160
Speaker 6: you know, in play maybe the Buffalo.

3018
02:14:34,280 --> 02:14:36,480
Speaker 7: I thought people said Buffalo at the end of the rounds.

3019
02:14:36,560 --> 02:14:39,720
Speaker 6: Yeah, and Tyler Booker two, you know, thirty thirty one

3020
02:14:39,800 --> 02:14:40,560
Speaker 6: on most consensus.

3021
02:14:40,600 --> 02:14:43,760
Speaker 7: Yeah, just like you know with the Loveland and Warren thing,

3022
02:14:43,800 --> 02:14:46,640
Speaker 7: I'm just looking at Dane Brugler. He had Warren eight

3023
02:14:46,960 --> 02:14:50,200
Speaker 7: and Loveland eleven. So I mean that's pretty close. Yeah,

3024
02:14:50,200 --> 02:14:52,960
Speaker 7: it's not. You know, some people like to love one better. Yeah,

3025
02:14:53,160 --> 02:14:55,720
Speaker 7: and I think certainly you made the argument with the

3026
02:14:55,760 --> 02:14:57,920
Speaker 7: way Chicago wants to use that guy.

3027
02:14:58,080 --> 02:15:01,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, do that. I think them picking Loveland a skill

3028
02:15:01,680 --> 02:15:04,960
Speaker 2: position player gives any credence to them also having been

3029
02:15:05,160 --> 02:15:10,160
Speaker 2: interested in gent like we need weapons for Caleb Williams.

3030
02:15:10,080 --> 02:15:13,120
Speaker 6: Which is so crazy to me because they just drafted Romadonsay.

3031
02:15:13,160 --> 02:15:16,280
Speaker 6: They have DJ Moore like they have DeAndre Swift in

3032
02:15:16,320 --> 02:15:19,000
Speaker 6: the backfield tight end was a spot that they have

3033
02:15:19,120 --> 02:15:22,320
Speaker 6: Cole Kamed like, they have a pretty good starting tight end.

3034
02:15:22,360 --> 02:15:24,840
Speaker 6: Now he's not as dynamic as love one, but I

3035
02:15:25,000 --> 02:15:27,600
Speaker 6: just look at it and it's interesting. You know, different

3036
02:15:27,600 --> 02:15:30,400
Speaker 6: ways to build around the quarterback, right, you know, they're

3037
02:15:30,520 --> 02:15:33,960
Speaker 6: they're loading up on skill players in Chicago, they have

3038
02:15:34,040 --> 02:15:34,360
Speaker 6: a big.

3039
02:15:34,320 --> 02:15:35,760
Speaker 2: Hole lesson Ben Johnson.

3040
02:15:36,800 --> 02:15:39,120
Speaker 6: Well they did it last year too, so you know

3041
02:15:39,200 --> 02:15:42,680
Speaker 6: they they drafted Williams and and Romaduonsay, you know, back

3042
02:15:42,760 --> 02:15:44,640
Speaker 6: to back, you know, in the first round one and nine.

3043
02:15:44,800 --> 02:15:47,320
Speaker 6: So yep, that's just the way they're building it.

3044
02:15:47,840 --> 02:15:51,040
Speaker 2: Let's go to the phones. Eight five five, pats five hundred.

3045
02:15:51,400 --> 02:15:58,680
Speaker 2: Shawn's in Connecticut. What's up, Sean, Sean? Sean, He's gone,

3046
02:15:58,960 --> 02:16:01,040
Speaker 2: He's been holding on for a what can I say?

3047
02:16:01,560 --> 02:16:03,480
Speaker 2: Cam's in Bedford, mass what's up?

3048
02:16:03,560 --> 02:16:08,800
Speaker 7: Cam? Bedford? All Right, he's got We're not hearing the

3049
02:16:09,760 --> 02:16:11,000
Speaker 7: volume now they're not there.

3050
02:16:11,120 --> 02:16:12,120
Speaker 2: Okay, the fall for.

3051
02:16:12,240 --> 02:16:15,160
Speaker 6: Jalen Walker finally ends, so he's going here to it

3052
02:16:15,160 --> 02:16:18,160
Speaker 6: Atlanta at fifteen. I think this is a more comfortable

3053
02:16:18,240 --> 02:16:21,080
Speaker 6: range for Jalen Walker. I never really bought all the

3054
02:16:21,160 --> 02:16:24,320
Speaker 6: hype of him being an option at four overall, maybe

3055
02:16:24,400 --> 02:16:26,919
Speaker 6: that some of that smoke was about a trade down scenario.

3056
02:16:27,840 --> 02:16:29,520
Speaker 6: I always just viewed him as too much of a

3057
02:16:29,600 --> 02:16:32,720
Speaker 6: tweeter linebacker to take him that high. Like, I didn't

3058
02:16:32,720 --> 02:16:35,000
Speaker 6: think he was a full time edge player like some

3059
02:16:35,160 --> 02:16:38,360
Speaker 6: other people did. His size, you know, six one, two forty.

3060
02:16:38,760 --> 02:16:41,360
Speaker 6: I just don't think you can play three downs on

3061
02:16:41,400 --> 02:16:43,640
Speaker 6: the edge in the NFL like that. And him at

3062
02:16:43,680 --> 02:16:47,080
Speaker 6: fifteen feels a lot more realistic and comfortable than taking

3063
02:16:47,160 --> 02:16:47,920
Speaker 6: him in the top five.

3064
02:16:48,000 --> 02:16:50,320
Speaker 5: Yeah, does this start some of the edge run now

3065
02:16:50,440 --> 02:16:54,800
Speaker 5: with guys like you know, Mike Green, Shamar Stewart, Scordon.

3066
02:16:55,200 --> 02:16:57,640
Speaker 7: He's my guy though, I really I really like him.

3067
02:16:57,840 --> 02:17:00,960
Speaker 7: You talk about all the other stuff, non football stuff,

3068
02:17:01,000 --> 02:17:03,400
Speaker 7: you know, in terms of leadership and character and all

3069
02:17:03,440 --> 02:17:05,720
Speaker 7: that he has that off the charts. I really like

3070
02:17:05,840 --> 02:17:08,560
Speaker 7: that player. I think he's going to be good Christians in.

3071
02:17:08,680 --> 02:17:11,080
Speaker 2: LA He's been holding on for a while. What's up, Christian?

3072
02:17:12,240 --> 02:17:14,680
Speaker 16: Hey, you guys good evening, and thanks for taking my

3073
02:17:14,760 --> 02:17:17,440
Speaker 16: call here from La where it's sunny. But I'm a

3074
02:17:17,480 --> 02:17:20,840
Speaker 16: little bit a little bit hotter than the collar. Hey, listen,

3075
02:17:20,959 --> 02:17:23,960
Speaker 16: I like what Masan Graham stands for. I mean, what

3076
02:17:24,400 --> 02:17:26,960
Speaker 16: Will Campbell stands for. I like that he fits the knees.

3077
02:17:27,600 --> 02:17:31,480
Speaker 16: What I don't like is, as Darante Sarnecki said, if

3078
02:17:31,520 --> 02:17:34,800
Speaker 16: you're picking within the top five, you better take someone

3079
02:17:34,879 --> 02:17:37,520
Speaker 16: that puts the ball in the end zone or puts

3080
02:17:37,640 --> 02:17:41,080
Speaker 16: quarterbacks on their butt. I think I'll get Will Campbell

3081
02:17:41,120 --> 02:17:43,840
Speaker 16: a chance. He might not be a great guy to

3082
02:17:44,080 --> 02:17:48,280
Speaker 16: protect Drake me left side. So let's move on and forward.

3083
02:17:48,480 --> 02:17:50,280
Speaker 16: And I don't even know who you guys think. Then,

3084
02:17:50,879 --> 02:17:54,080
Speaker 16: now that we believe we have someone to protect Drake May,

3085
02:17:54,640 --> 02:17:56,120
Speaker 16: who do you think is a weapon that we can

3086
02:17:56,160 --> 02:17:58,760
Speaker 16: bring in or the highest rated weapons you guys have

3087
02:17:59,200 --> 02:18:01,560
Speaker 16: that now we can bring again to give drink someone

3088
02:18:01,560 --> 02:18:04,800
Speaker 16: who drove the ball to my first guy. I would

3089
02:18:04,879 --> 02:18:08,120
Speaker 16: like to see the third round, maybe without maybe without

3090
02:18:08,160 --> 02:18:12,000
Speaker 16: second pick. In the third round, if the kid named

3091
02:18:12,200 --> 02:18:16,480
Speaker 16: Dentony Thornton get some tape on sick with five everyone

3092
02:18:16,640 --> 02:18:19,880
Speaker 16: four three he played Metcalf but a little faster.

3093
02:18:20,440 --> 02:18:22,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's on my back of the envelope like a

3094
02:18:22,560 --> 02:18:23,240
Speaker 2: faster you can.

3095
02:18:23,400 --> 02:18:24,160
Speaker 6: If they take.

3096
02:18:25,879 --> 02:18:27,560
Speaker 7: He's gonna go around after Metcalf.

3097
02:18:27,760 --> 02:18:30,560
Speaker 6: Now, if they take Dante Thornton in the fifth round,

3098
02:18:31,120 --> 02:18:33,920
Speaker 6: I'll say, nice, nice fly, right, like nice nice dart

3099
02:18:34,000 --> 02:18:36,120
Speaker 6: throw here, not the third round pick.

3100
02:18:36,760 --> 02:18:39,600
Speaker 7: Terrific skills in all seriousness, but I just hasn't really

3101
02:18:39,640 --> 02:18:40,160
Speaker 7: put it together.

3102
02:18:40,280 --> 02:18:43,720
Speaker 6: Yeah, I understand what Christians saying about you to those

3103
02:18:43,920 --> 02:18:47,600
Speaker 6: you know, touchdowns or sack producers, But I would just say,

3104
02:18:48,200 --> 02:18:50,200
Speaker 6: the guys you have on the team that are supposed

3105
02:18:50,240 --> 02:18:52,840
Speaker 6: to score touchdowns can't score touchdowns to the offensive line

3106
02:18:53,080 --> 02:18:56,280
Speaker 6: is as bad as it was last year. And that's

3107
02:18:56,320 --> 02:18:59,000
Speaker 6: what we consistently saw. So the guy that's gonna score

3108
02:18:59,080 --> 02:19:01,840
Speaker 6: touchdowns is Drake, and now he has somebody that is

3109
02:19:01,879 --> 02:19:05,040
Speaker 6: going to allow him to operate to score touchdowns, you know.

3110
02:19:05,200 --> 02:19:07,080
Speaker 6: And and it's just that's the way you got to

3111
02:19:07,120 --> 02:19:07,440
Speaker 6: look at it.

3112
02:19:07,680 --> 02:19:10,400
Speaker 7: So hopefully Christian's still listening. I know, Fred let him go.

3113
02:19:10,840 --> 02:19:13,480
Speaker 7: I would just say, like, let's we're gonna get to tomorrow.

3114
02:19:13,560 --> 02:19:16,480
Speaker 7: We're gonna see who's available and then sort of identify

3115
02:19:16,560 --> 02:19:18,680
Speaker 7: maybe a weapon that we think makes some sense. It's

3116
02:19:18,800 --> 02:19:21,560
Speaker 7: kind of hard to just say, well, that's the guy

3117
02:19:21,640 --> 02:19:24,000
Speaker 7: that they need to target. When you're literally I could say,

3118
02:19:24,080 --> 02:19:27,760
Speaker 7: Matthew Golden, you know, get twenty picks away. Does Matthew

3119
02:19:27,800 --> 02:19:29,560
Speaker 7: Golden slip or sliders somewhere?

3120
02:19:29,560 --> 02:19:31,920
Speaker 6: Well, I think he's already kind of sliding a little

3121
02:19:31,959 --> 02:19:34,560
Speaker 6: bit here, and and maybe some of these receivers, you know,

3122
02:19:34,680 --> 02:19:36,400
Speaker 6: Golden Buka, I think we're going.

3123
02:19:36,959 --> 02:19:39,000
Speaker 7: And you know what happened as soon as one gets taken.

3124
02:19:39,480 --> 02:19:43,360
Speaker 6: I would say early twenties. You know, one of these

3125
02:19:43,400 --> 02:19:45,960
Speaker 6: guys might go and maybe you know a little bit

3126
02:19:45,959 --> 02:19:49,000
Speaker 6: earlier than that, and then you'll see Golden Abuka. But

3127
02:19:49,280 --> 02:19:52,200
Speaker 6: Burden is the one that I've had circled the whole time,

3128
02:19:52,600 --> 02:19:54,440
Speaker 6: you know, with his character issues and some of the

3129
02:19:54,520 --> 02:19:57,120
Speaker 6: things that teams have concerns about in terms of what

3130
02:19:57,200 --> 02:19:59,920
Speaker 6: happened last year at Missouri. Does he fall into the

3131
02:20:00,080 --> 02:20:02,879
Speaker 6: second round because of that? And at that point at

3132
02:20:02,959 --> 02:20:05,560
Speaker 6: thirty eight, as a team that needs special and needs

3133
02:20:05,640 --> 02:20:08,320
Speaker 6: playmaking on offense, do you just take a little bit

3134
02:20:08,360 --> 02:20:11,240
Speaker 6: of risk on with that kind of stuff and just say,

3135
02:20:11,320 --> 02:20:13,360
Speaker 6: you know, it's just a little bit of a diva.

3136
02:20:13,520 --> 02:20:15,640
Speaker 6: You know, he's a wide receiver, right he wasn't getting

3137
02:20:15,640 --> 02:20:18,560
Speaker 6: the ball, they weren't winning. Yeah, you know that sort

3138
02:20:18,600 --> 02:20:18,840
Speaker 6: of thing.

3139
02:20:19,000 --> 02:20:21,160
Speaker 5: I also just think that it's got to be one

3140
02:20:21,160 --> 02:20:22,800
Speaker 5: of these next three picks. If you're a serious one

3141
02:20:22,840 --> 02:20:25,360
Speaker 5: of a receiver that you want to maybe contribute to

3142
02:20:25,440 --> 02:20:27,560
Speaker 5: the team, it's got to be in these next three picks.

3143
02:20:27,600 --> 02:20:29,360
Speaker 5: And you have diminishing returns as you get into the

3144
02:20:29,440 --> 02:20:31,960
Speaker 5: third round. I've said I wanted some speed, and I

3145
02:20:32,000 --> 02:20:33,560
Speaker 5: think that's an element that you can still find in

3146
02:20:33,600 --> 02:20:36,199
Speaker 5: the third round. But I don't really care about a fourth, fifth,

3147
02:20:36,320 --> 02:20:39,800
Speaker 5: sixth round wide receiver, a flyer. You've got nine wide

3148
02:20:39,800 --> 02:20:42,640
Speaker 5: receivers on the roster. That's the point where just let

3149
02:20:42,680 --> 02:20:45,480
Speaker 5: the guys you already have compete, unless you're bringing in

3150
02:20:45,600 --> 02:20:48,560
Speaker 5: somebody in the next tomorrow. Let's just say bringing somebody

3151
02:20:48,640 --> 02:20:52,160
Speaker 5: tomorrow that has something unique about them that gives them

3152
02:20:52,200 --> 02:20:55,120
Speaker 5: a chance to succeed in this room as it's currently constituted,

3153
02:20:55,160 --> 02:20:57,400
Speaker 5: because you're quickly going to get out of a space

3154
02:20:57,440 --> 02:20:59,760
Speaker 5: where these guys are going to even have a chance

3155
02:20:59,800 --> 02:21:01,760
Speaker 5: to go against you know, guys in the second year.

3156
02:21:01,800 --> 02:21:03,560
Speaker 7: I want to give them happen it breathe and you know,

3157
02:21:03,600 --> 02:21:06,560
Speaker 7: and if like listen, there's guys. Plenty of guys get taken,

3158
02:21:06,840 --> 02:21:09,800
Speaker 7: you know, third round, fourth round, fifth round. They work out.

3159
02:21:09,879 --> 02:21:11,760
Speaker 7: But to your point, Mike, and I agree with what

3160
02:21:11,840 --> 02:21:15,080
Speaker 7: you're saying. You can't rely on that it might happen.

3161
02:21:15,240 --> 02:21:17,840
Speaker 7: You might you might hit it. You might find one

3162
02:21:17,879 --> 02:21:19,960
Speaker 7: of those guys that slip for a you know, Terry

3163
02:21:20,000 --> 02:21:22,680
Speaker 7: McLaurin that just sort of slips for whatever reason, it

3164
02:21:22,760 --> 02:21:24,720
Speaker 7: turns out to be a really really good receiver. I

3165
02:21:24,800 --> 02:21:27,119
Speaker 7: think McLaurin was a third or fourth round guy. Wasn't

3166
02:21:27,160 --> 02:21:29,920
Speaker 7: it third round or third round guy for Washington. It happens,

3167
02:21:30,160 --> 02:21:31,800
Speaker 7: you can get one, but yeah.

3168
02:21:31,760 --> 02:21:33,440
Speaker 5: But it slowly gets tighter. And I mean, i'd just

3169
02:21:33,560 --> 02:21:35,360
Speaker 5: rather say you get into day three now we're talking

3170
02:21:35,400 --> 02:21:37,160
Speaker 5: about running backs, like there's gonna be some good running

3171
02:21:37,200 --> 02:21:39,200
Speaker 5: backs left then. You know, that's how you have to

3172
02:21:39,440 --> 02:21:42,400
Speaker 5: balance things out with how these groups are stacked. And

3173
02:21:42,840 --> 02:21:44,440
Speaker 5: you know, like I said, we're getting into Fredzep, We're

3174
02:21:44,440 --> 02:21:46,720
Speaker 5: getting into some wide receiver run, maybe some edge run.

3175
02:21:47,080 --> 02:21:48,920
Speaker 5: You know, these are things I think that should definitely

3176
02:21:48,959 --> 02:21:52,320
Speaker 5: interest the Patriots wide receiver defensive end if they're thinking

3177
02:21:52,320 --> 02:21:54,080
Speaker 5: about trading back up here at the end, as we

3178
02:21:54,560 --> 02:21:56,520
Speaker 5: enter the second half of the first round here, like

3179
02:21:57,400 --> 02:21:59,800
Speaker 5: there could be some guys that they could target to move.

3180
02:22:00,440 --> 02:22:02,680
Speaker 6: Yeah, I would just worry, you know, at the wide

3181
02:22:02,720 --> 02:22:04,720
Speaker 6: receiver position and draft like this. You know, we talk

3182
02:22:04,879 --> 02:22:07,240
Speaker 6: a lot about the Terry mclaurin's and stuff like that

3183
02:22:07,800 --> 02:22:10,800
Speaker 6: that those are an exceptionally deep wide receiver classes. That

3184
02:22:10,959 --> 02:22:13,960
Speaker 6: day you often find those hidden gems like this one. Yeah,

3185
02:22:14,600 --> 02:22:16,800
Speaker 6: this is not that right. This is not a receiver

3186
02:22:16,920 --> 02:22:20,000
Speaker 6: class that's thought of as highly as that class was

3187
02:22:20,200 --> 02:22:22,199
Speaker 6: or some of the other classes where that has happened.

3188
02:22:22,879 --> 02:22:26,400
Speaker 6: So I look at this and say, you know, if

3189
02:22:26,440 --> 02:22:28,040
Speaker 6: you're really going to get a guy that's going to

3190
02:22:28,080 --> 02:22:29,960
Speaker 6: come in here and have a chance not to just

3191
02:22:30,040 --> 02:22:32,560
Speaker 6: compete for a roster spot, but to be a top three,

3192
02:22:32,959 --> 02:22:35,640
Speaker 6: you know, impact receiver, it's going to have to come

3193
02:22:35,760 --> 02:22:39,200
Speaker 6: quickly here. Otherwise you're kind of getting what you already have.

3194
02:22:39,400 --> 02:22:41,240
Speaker 6: You know, you're you're just sort of putting another name

3195
02:22:41,280 --> 02:22:41,680
Speaker 6: in the hat.

3196
02:22:41,800 --> 02:22:43,560
Speaker 5: Snow guy, the big guy that you know, the big

3197
02:22:43,560 --> 02:22:45,959
Speaker 5: guy that can jump, I can't really run, the little

3198
02:22:46,000 --> 02:22:46,800
Speaker 5: guy that can run.

3199
02:22:46,879 --> 02:22:48,720
Speaker 2: But they do that.

3200
02:22:49,080 --> 02:22:50,879
Speaker 7: If they do take a flyer.

3201
02:22:52,520 --> 02:22:54,400
Speaker 6: And it's like Nolan, who is it?

3202
02:22:56,840 --> 02:22:58,800
Speaker 7: If it is a flyer on a Day three guy.

3203
02:22:58,879 --> 02:23:01,720
Speaker 7: I wouldn't mind Christians guy like something like that. Like,

3204
02:23:01,879 --> 02:23:03,720
Speaker 7: like Kevin said, that's when you go for the like

3205
02:23:03,840 --> 02:23:06,720
Speaker 7: the the toolesy kind of guy who for whatever reason

3206
02:23:06,800 --> 02:23:08,080
Speaker 7: does have the production that matches.

3207
02:23:08,200 --> 02:23:10,840
Speaker 6: Yeah, I would say my l for a reason, it's

3208
02:23:10,879 --> 02:23:13,040
Speaker 6: an earlier or late thing at wide receiver. In a

3209
02:23:13,120 --> 02:23:15,240
Speaker 6: draft like this, you're either taking a guy at thirty

3210
02:23:15,280 --> 02:23:16,760
Speaker 6: eight that you feel like is going to come in

3211
02:23:16,840 --> 02:23:20,000
Speaker 6: and immediately contribute and having a high impact, or you're

3212
02:23:20,040 --> 02:23:23,560
Speaker 6: waiting on thorin. Isaac Teslaw is another guy from Arkansas

3213
02:23:23,680 --> 02:23:25,360
Speaker 6: that's gotten a lot of love. It's a really good

3214
02:23:25,400 --> 02:23:27,800
Speaker 6: athlete and you might be able to hit another level

3215
02:23:27,840 --> 02:23:28,320
Speaker 6: in the pros.

3216
02:23:28,480 --> 02:23:29,520
Speaker 7: Veric Dedholme really likes.

3217
02:23:29,800 --> 02:23:32,200
Speaker 6: Yeah, you know guys like that. You know those guys

3218
02:23:32,360 --> 02:23:34,680
Speaker 6: you know, fourth fifth round that you can get that

3219
02:23:34,879 --> 02:23:38,400
Speaker 6: have some upside, that have some real athletic tools. But

3220
02:23:39,160 --> 02:23:41,320
Speaker 6: then there's like this dearth in the middle. There of

3221
02:23:41,400 --> 02:23:42,959
Speaker 6: guys that are just kind of like what you got.

3222
02:23:43,120 --> 02:23:44,920
Speaker 5: You guys are saying dearth a lot, because I've heard

3223
02:23:44,959 --> 02:23:46,800
Speaker 5: earth come out of twice from you when you just threw.

3224
02:23:46,720 --> 02:23:47,879
Speaker 2: A dearth too, So I've been.

3225
02:23:49,800 --> 02:23:51,039
Speaker 6: It's a dirty draft.

3226
02:23:51,640 --> 02:23:54,480
Speaker 5: It's a dearth of dearth mentions here on the show.

3227
02:23:54,720 --> 02:23:56,520
Speaker 5: I just say that, like in terms of the weapons,

3228
02:23:56,600 --> 02:23:58,720
Speaker 5: like I'd rather take a shot on a running back

3229
02:23:58,760 --> 02:24:01,360
Speaker 5: where you have two guys entrenched in you know, Terrell,

3230
02:24:01,560 --> 02:24:04,119
Speaker 5: what's his face like, you know, or even the tight

3231
02:24:04,240 --> 02:24:07,080
Speaker 5: end position where there at least is a theory that

3232
02:24:07,200 --> 02:24:10,280
Speaker 5: there's some room to operate and to compete, whereas the

3233
02:24:10,320 --> 02:24:12,760
Speaker 5: wide receiver room, like there's like I said, there's nine

3234
02:24:12,800 --> 02:24:14,720
Speaker 5: guys probably six of them right now that you could

3235
02:24:14,720 --> 02:24:17,320
Speaker 5: at least say could be on the team. Like, so

3236
02:24:17,480 --> 02:24:19,640
Speaker 5: that's just I know that that's not a high end group,

3237
02:24:19,760 --> 02:24:21,880
Speaker 5: but I want to give some room to breathe to

3238
02:24:21,920 --> 02:24:23,320
Speaker 5: some of these younger prospects.

3239
02:24:22,959 --> 02:24:26,160
Speaker 2: Craigan's central mass. Don't ignore Paul's concerns. The man has

3240
02:24:26,240 --> 02:24:29,640
Speaker 2: great negative instincts. He called the Joe Milton issue. Before

3241
02:24:29,680 --> 02:24:31,640
Speaker 2: the season, Fred and Tamara mocked him like he was

3242
02:24:31,680 --> 02:24:35,240
Speaker 2: a pouty child. He ended up being right. However, I

3243
02:24:35,280 --> 02:24:36,959
Speaker 2: think Campbell will figure it out, just.

3244
02:24:37,080 --> 02:24:42,199
Speaker 7: Like he hasdous negative is a great freaking line.

3245
02:24:42,520 --> 02:24:44,600
Speaker 2: I think Campbell will figure it out. Any chance they

3246
02:24:44,680 --> 02:24:46,760
Speaker 2: go with Tyler Booker in the second round, to build

3247
02:24:46,800 --> 02:24:49,040
Speaker 2: the left side that's intimidating and violent.

3248
02:24:51,360 --> 02:24:53,400
Speaker 7: I'm going to say there's a zero percent chance of that.

3249
02:24:54,280 --> 02:24:57,520
Speaker 7: I'm going to assume that he was taken after that

3250
02:24:57,680 --> 02:25:00,199
Speaker 7: email came in, But he was taken twelve.

3251
02:25:00,440 --> 02:25:03,800
Speaker 6: Yea was yeah, very high. I agree with a lot

3252
02:25:03,879 --> 02:25:06,520
Speaker 6: of Paul's concerns about Will Campbell. I just think at

3253
02:25:06,560 --> 02:25:08,720
Speaker 6: this point, like they picked the guy, so like, now

3254
02:25:08,840 --> 02:25:11,120
Speaker 6: let's see what he's made of, right, Like.

3255
02:25:11,640 --> 02:25:13,360
Speaker 7: That's been around for a few years now, he knows

3256
02:25:13,360 --> 02:25:16,560
Speaker 7: how we do it on Sunshine dot Com. We picked him.

3257
02:25:16,600 --> 02:25:20,800
Speaker 6: Now, well, it's just like what the debate's over, right, Like,

3258
02:25:21,360 --> 02:25:23,560
Speaker 6: this is the player they picked, right, So this is

3259
02:25:23,680 --> 02:25:25,560
Speaker 6: the this is the one you're going to the dance with.

3260
02:25:25,760 --> 02:25:27,960
Speaker 6: So like, when we get out there in training camp,

3261
02:25:28,080 --> 02:25:30,320
Speaker 6: I'm sure my binoculars will be on the left tackle

3262
02:25:30,360 --> 02:25:32,120
Speaker 6: and I'll tell you all about his past sets and

3263
02:25:32,160 --> 02:25:32,400
Speaker 6: his run.

3264
02:25:32,440 --> 02:25:34,240
Speaker 7: I thought it would be hilarious if we're on like

3265
02:25:34,320 --> 02:25:37,440
Speaker 7: the upper deck and Evan's got the buyo's out. It's

3266
02:25:37,640 --> 02:25:40,200
Speaker 7: like a telescope all the way down and like Harold

3267
02:25:40,280 --> 02:25:42,400
Speaker 7: Landry comes in does a quick you know, one of

3268
02:25:42,440 --> 02:25:47,520
Speaker 7: those quick you know, step outside, quick slant to the inside,

3269
02:25:47,520 --> 02:25:50,120
Speaker 7: which is supposedly what he had some trouble with, you know,

3270
02:25:50,200 --> 02:25:52,120
Speaker 7: that quick inside move and all of a sudden he

3271
02:25:52,160 --> 02:25:54,680
Speaker 7: gets by him and Evan goes gotta move in the guard.

3272
02:25:57,080 --> 02:25:59,400
Speaker 6: Well, I also do want to put that out there,

3273
02:26:00,200 --> 02:26:04,000
Speaker 6: like he's gonna lose some blocks right like and so

3274
02:26:04,160 --> 02:26:06,640
Speaker 6: like let's not you know, well, we're not gonna see.

3275
02:26:06,480 --> 02:26:10,039
Speaker 7: It in practice because they don't have like an electric

3276
02:26:10,120 --> 02:26:14,760
Speaker 7: pass rusher like Harold Landry is a good solid workman like.

3277
02:26:15,760 --> 02:26:19,920
Speaker 6: They don't yet, No, like, where are they going to

3278
02:26:20,000 --> 02:26:25,160
Speaker 6: get it about? Loaded with pass rushers? We got plenty, I.

3279
02:26:25,200 --> 02:26:27,320
Speaker 5: Tell you, though. My radar is still way way up

3280
02:26:27,600 --> 02:26:31,360
Speaker 5: for this tonight, like I still think I do.

3281
02:26:31,600 --> 02:26:34,240
Speaker 7: So that's good. Let's get into that. Yeah, this is

3282
02:26:34,280 --> 02:26:35,200
Speaker 7: where I facilitate for.

3283
02:26:35,560 --> 02:26:36,920
Speaker 2: This is where you go to a break and then

3284
02:26:36,920 --> 02:26:37,480
Speaker 2: you come back.

3285
02:26:39,160 --> 02:26:42,960
Speaker 7: Okay, so they took Will Campbell, So now the need

3286
02:26:43,120 --> 02:26:46,240
Speaker 7: for the tackle isn't there. That was my reason for

3287
02:26:46,360 --> 02:26:50,720
Speaker 7: trading up back into the first round. I don't really

3288
02:26:50,760 --> 02:26:54,640
Speaker 7: see the need to do that. I agree. Okay, Well,

3289
02:26:54,720 --> 02:26:59,040
Speaker 7: Mike and Evan sort of they want to they want

3290
02:26:59,120 --> 02:27:03,360
Speaker 7: something else. I think Mike wants an edge. But if

3291
02:27:03,400 --> 02:27:07,200
Speaker 7: there one want to give up those ass Okay, I

3292
02:27:07,240 --> 02:27:08,680
Speaker 7: thought you were just saying I messed it up.

3293
02:27:08,800 --> 02:27:11,240
Speaker 6: No, No, But like we're very much our types. And

3294
02:27:11,400 --> 02:27:13,720
Speaker 6: Mike is an edge guy and I'm a wide receiver guy.

3295
02:27:13,879 --> 02:27:15,080
Speaker 7: That's really interesting defense.

3296
02:27:15,080 --> 02:27:16,960
Speaker 2: I don't know if what listen, I think if Matthew

3297
02:27:17,000 --> 02:27:21,680
Speaker 2: Golden all of a sudden is available at thirty maybe, yeah,

3298
02:27:21,840 --> 02:27:23,440
Speaker 2: maybe he's a guy you would do it.

3299
02:27:23,560 --> 02:27:23,600
Speaker 38: That.

3300
02:27:23,760 --> 02:27:26,480
Speaker 2: That's just where I wonder, why is he available at thirty?

3301
02:27:27,000 --> 02:27:29,800
Speaker 6: Yeah? Get your head right that that that's where my

3302
02:27:30,000 --> 02:27:32,000
Speaker 6: head is at with wide receiver. You know, I just

3303
02:27:32,080 --> 02:27:34,080
Speaker 6: kind of talked about how you know some of these

3304
02:27:34,160 --> 02:27:37,360
Speaker 6: day too wide receivers. I'm not like crazy about a

3305
02:27:37,440 --> 02:27:39,080
Speaker 6: lot of them, right, you know, I really like Noel,

3306
02:27:39,200 --> 02:27:41,680
Speaker 6: I really like Kyle Williams. Like those are the two

3307
02:27:41,760 --> 02:27:45,080
Speaker 6: guys that I would say, you know, I would gravitate

3308
02:27:45,160 --> 02:27:48,160
Speaker 6: towards on day two. But if there's these uh you know,

3309
02:27:48,240 --> 02:27:51,240
Speaker 6: a Buka Burden Golden, these guys start to slide a

3310
02:27:51,320 --> 02:27:53,640
Speaker 6: little bit. You know, that's a way to really get

3311
02:27:53,680 --> 02:27:56,400
Speaker 6: it high impact receiver out of this first round. And

3312
02:27:56,520 --> 02:27:58,480
Speaker 6: if you're the Patriots, you know, at age, like my

3313
02:27:58,600 --> 02:28:00,920
Speaker 6: whole take on edge and has just been such a

3314
02:28:01,000 --> 02:28:03,680
Speaker 6: deep class that there'll be an edge at sixty nine

3315
02:28:03,760 --> 02:28:06,040
Speaker 6: or seventy seven that could come in here and contribute

3316
02:28:06,040 --> 02:28:06,600
Speaker 6: to the Patriots.

3317
02:28:06,600 --> 02:28:08,760
Speaker 7: And were just sort of starting to get to the

3318
02:28:08,920 --> 02:28:16,080
Speaker 7: area where you're starting to say, is X sliding? This

3319
02:28:16,200 --> 02:28:17,640
Speaker 7: is kind of what we thought that maybe I thought

3320
02:28:17,720 --> 02:28:21,360
Speaker 7: Jalen Jalen Walker, I thought was ide receivers. That should

3321
02:28:21,360 --> 02:28:23,200
Speaker 7: have been I should have been more clear.

3322
02:28:23,360 --> 02:28:25,600
Speaker 6: Yeah, I think we're getting to the point now we're

3323
02:28:25,640 --> 02:28:29,440
Speaker 6: in golden territory. You know, realistically I thought he would

3324
02:28:29,440 --> 02:28:31,680
Speaker 6: go a little higher than this potentially, But like I'm.

3325
02:28:31,560 --> 02:28:34,800
Speaker 7: Looking at the Beast, he had him fifteen on his

3326
02:28:34,879 --> 02:28:37,600
Speaker 7: top one hundred lists. So what are we are We sixteen?

3327
02:28:37,720 --> 02:28:39,439
Speaker 6: Now we're at seventeen.

3328
02:28:40,080 --> 02:28:44,480
Speaker 7: Who was sixteen Falcons? Oh okay, that was sixteen, and

3329
02:28:44,520 --> 02:28:48,800
Speaker 7: they took Nolan. It's official MIC number thirteen. Mike's way,

3330
02:28:49,640 --> 02:28:53,040
Speaker 7: no tomatoes, parties, please pickles and onions.

3331
02:28:54,840 --> 02:28:55,360
Speaker 36: But I got you.

3332
02:28:55,640 --> 02:28:58,800
Speaker 6: So I'll just click the red to the Beast, you know,

3333
02:29:00,080 --> 02:29:01,480
Speaker 6: took Stewart.

3334
02:29:04,160 --> 02:29:06,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, here we go, and then Mike Green will

3335
02:29:06,320 --> 02:29:06,760
Speaker 2: probably go.

3336
02:29:07,200 --> 02:29:10,080
Speaker 6: So if you want any hope, you know, any hope,

3337
02:29:10,120 --> 02:29:12,440
Speaker 6: if you want to really sink your teeth into some

3338
02:29:12,560 --> 02:29:16,440
Speaker 6: Will Campbell tape. I would say, Shamar Stewart, who is

3339
02:29:16,680 --> 02:29:19,640
Speaker 6: a freak athlete with like thirty four inch arms, you know,

3340
02:29:19,720 --> 02:29:22,959
Speaker 6: the type of guy that's supposed to give Will Campbell problems,

3341
02:29:23,080 --> 02:29:26,920
Speaker 6: right long, explosive edge rusher. I thought Will Campbell completely

3342
02:29:26,959 --> 02:29:27,520
Speaker 6: shut him down.

3343
02:29:27,520 --> 02:29:29,959
Speaker 7: Who's the guy from South Carolina, Kyle Canard?

3344
02:29:30,120 --> 02:29:33,879
Speaker 6: I like, yeah, yeah, he did a nice job. Yeah,

3345
02:29:34,720 --> 02:29:38,560
Speaker 6: well later in that game. Yeah, but Shamar Stewart, you know,

3346
02:29:38,640 --> 02:29:40,640
Speaker 6: he should have been the guy that you get the

3347
02:29:40,760 --> 02:29:43,480
Speaker 6: arm length extension, you get the speed off the edge,

3348
02:29:43,640 --> 02:29:45,840
Speaker 6: like the power and all that stuff. I thought Will

3349
02:29:45,920 --> 02:29:48,760
Speaker 6: Campbell did a really nice job against him. Uh in

3350
02:29:48,879 --> 02:29:50,840
Speaker 6: that game, not so much with the you know, deuces

3351
02:29:50,879 --> 02:29:52,920
Speaker 6: guy scorting over there, but I thought he was good

3352
02:29:52,920 --> 02:29:56,120
Speaker 6: against Stuart. And you know, I think this pick for

3353
02:29:56,200 --> 02:29:59,720
Speaker 6: the the Bengals again, and we're getting into that territory

3354
02:29:59,840 --> 02:30:02,320
Speaker 6: this class where a lot of this is just betting

3355
02:30:02,480 --> 02:30:05,440
Speaker 6: on traits and upside. You know, Stewart's production in college

3356
02:30:05,520 --> 02:30:08,720
Speaker 6: was not very good, but he's a traits you know, toolsy,

3357
02:30:09,440 --> 02:30:11,560
Speaker 6: high end athlete, one of the best athletes to ever

3358
02:30:11,680 --> 02:30:15,200
Speaker 6: tested the combine, you know, really high end athlete, and

3359
02:30:15,520 --> 02:30:17,040
Speaker 6: they're they're gonna hope that they can get it out

3360
02:30:17,040 --> 02:30:17,280
Speaker 6: of them.

3361
02:30:17,520 --> 02:30:20,720
Speaker 2: All right, let's get back to the phones. Let's start

3362
02:30:20,800 --> 02:30:23,600
Speaker 2: off with Willem and Philim. What's up?

3363
02:30:23,640 --> 02:30:23,959
Speaker 7: William?

3364
02:30:24,760 --> 02:30:25,120
Speaker 36: What's up?

3365
02:30:25,440 --> 02:30:25,920
Speaker 28: How you doing?

3366
02:30:26,000 --> 02:30:26,400
Speaker 2: All right?

3367
02:30:27,879 --> 02:30:28,000
Speaker 6: Uh?

3368
02:30:28,200 --> 02:30:30,800
Speaker 36: I understand the will the will Campbell pick.

3369
02:30:30,879 --> 02:30:31,800
Speaker 2: I get it.

3370
02:30:31,879 --> 02:30:34,480
Speaker 36: You know some of the fans was not really happy

3371
02:30:34,520 --> 02:30:37,400
Speaker 36: about it. You know, the reaction was just crazy tout.

3372
02:30:37,400 --> 02:30:39,840
Speaker 36: I understand. We need to keep drake me up right.

3373
02:30:39,920 --> 02:30:44,080
Speaker 36: I totally understand it. So to Evan, you've been cramming

3374
02:30:44,120 --> 02:30:46,959
Speaker 36: about this idea about tackle all year because they didn't

3375
02:30:46,959 --> 02:30:49,600
Speaker 36: do it last year, so he did this year. So

3376
02:30:49,680 --> 02:30:51,280
Speaker 36: I want to know you're gonna get on board one

3377
02:30:51,320 --> 02:30:54,200
Speaker 36: wide receiving there. So we only got the quarterback you

3378
02:30:54,280 --> 02:30:56,160
Speaker 36: got to tackle. Are you gonna get on board and

3379
02:30:56,200 --> 02:30:56,959
Speaker 36: wide receiving there.

3380
02:30:57,160 --> 02:30:59,560
Speaker 6: I'm always on board with wide receivers. I'm just the

3381
02:30:59,640 --> 02:31:02,440
Speaker 6: guy that I build through the trenches. I want to

3382
02:31:02,480 --> 02:31:04,680
Speaker 6: build up front. I think those are the teams that

3383
02:31:04,720 --> 02:31:07,280
Speaker 6: are the most sustainable. Do it that way. That's just

3384
02:31:07,360 --> 02:31:10,000
Speaker 6: my preference of how to do it. But I'm not

3385
02:31:10,080 --> 02:31:12,320
Speaker 6: anti wide receiver by any means. I just think that

3386
02:31:12,440 --> 02:31:15,119
Speaker 6: those guys. Uh you know, typically you can find those

3387
02:31:15,160 --> 02:31:18,280
Speaker 6: guys like we've been talking about, and I think tackle

3388
02:31:18,400 --> 02:31:21,400
Speaker 6: it was more important this this offseason, more pressing needs.

3389
02:31:21,440 --> 02:31:23,040
Speaker 6: If you want to go get a wide receiver, now

3390
02:31:23,640 --> 02:31:25,680
Speaker 6: have at it. You know, you fill the need and

3391
02:31:25,959 --> 02:31:27,840
Speaker 6: now you can add add on top of that.

3392
02:31:28,840 --> 02:31:28,960
Speaker 1: Right.

3393
02:31:29,160 --> 02:31:32,920
Speaker 36: So okay, So this just I'm gonna put this out there,

3394
02:31:32,959 --> 02:31:37,520
Speaker 36: real fan, y'all always say that the pace of that

3395
02:31:37,640 --> 02:31:38,920
Speaker 36: the receiver is always out.

3396
02:31:38,800 --> 02:31:42,840
Speaker 39: There day two, day three, day four, you are heavy.

3397
02:31:42,920 --> 02:31:46,640
Speaker 36: I don't think y'all have I think basically y'allmight forgot.

3398
02:31:47,760 --> 02:31:50,959
Speaker 36: It's the New York Patriots have not been proven yet

3399
02:31:51,040 --> 02:31:56,360
Speaker 36: jugment that you can draft, build, or even fire one. Okay,

3400
02:31:56,560 --> 02:31:58,360
Speaker 36: I'm sorry, that's just a fact.

3401
02:31:59,240 --> 02:32:01,080
Speaker 7: Okay, So why do you want to draft one early?

3402
02:32:01,160 --> 02:32:01,280
Speaker 1: Then?

3403
02:32:01,480 --> 02:32:03,640
Speaker 7: If they can't do it, then why do you want

3404
02:32:03,640 --> 02:32:05,120
Speaker 7: to take one early? If they can't do it.

3405
02:32:07,080 --> 02:32:08,760
Speaker 36: I'm not saying I don't want to take one take

3406
02:32:08,800 --> 02:32:12,720
Speaker 36: one early. I'm just saying I'm just saying there, look

3407
02:32:12,760 --> 02:32:13,400
Speaker 36: at their history.

3408
02:32:14,240 --> 02:32:18,240
Speaker 7: No, but you criticized Evan because he wanted to build

3409
02:32:18,280 --> 02:32:21,600
Speaker 7: through the trenches, and you think he's ignoring wide receivers.

3410
02:32:21,640 --> 02:32:25,680
Speaker 7: I don't think Evan is ignoring wide receivers, But when

3411
02:32:25,720 --> 02:32:27,040
Speaker 7: do you want to take one if they if the

3412
02:32:27,080 --> 02:32:29,920
Speaker 7: Patriots can't take one, like, why are we gonna? Why

3413
02:32:29,920 --> 02:32:30,920
Speaker 7: are we wasting our time?

3414
02:32:31,680 --> 02:32:34,000
Speaker 36: Right, Paul, you're twisted my words. Listen to what I

3415
02:32:34,120 --> 02:32:34,440
Speaker 36: just said.

3416
02:32:35,360 --> 02:32:36,080
Speaker 28: You was right there.

3417
02:32:36,120 --> 02:32:40,359
Speaker 36: The Patriots history. Yes, that's not improving, sir. They cannot

3418
02:32:40,520 --> 02:32:43,200
Speaker 36: draft develop one.

3419
02:32:43,520 --> 02:32:45,480
Speaker 7: Okay, So I'm gonna I'm gonna go on Patriots history.

3420
02:32:45,520 --> 02:32:48,000
Speaker 7: I'm gonna I'm gonna play Devil's advocate here, Okay, because

3421
02:32:48,040 --> 02:32:50,080
Speaker 7: I get a little annoyed with this line of thought,

3422
02:32:50,920 --> 02:32:54,160
Speaker 7: namely the Patriots wide receiver that failed that Mike Rabel picked.

3423
02:32:56,520 --> 02:32:58,720
Speaker 7: Mike raf just got here, right, So why are we

3424
02:32:58,800 --> 02:33:03,440
Speaker 7: worrying about? Like what you know, what happens with nikkil

3425
02:33:03,480 --> 02:33:05,640
Speaker 7: Harry that Bill Belichick took?

3426
02:33:06,360 --> 02:33:08,600
Speaker 36: That's true interest? What about when Ellen Worth picked jal

3427
02:33:08,680 --> 02:33:09,039
Speaker 36: and Pope?

3428
02:33:09,640 --> 02:33:13,040
Speaker 7: Yeah, but Elliot Wolf isn't in charge now, Mike Rabel is.

3429
02:33:14,400 --> 02:33:17,800
Speaker 7: So I mean you have to figure out something like

3430
02:33:17,920 --> 02:33:20,840
Speaker 7: you either say that they should take a wide receiver

3431
02:33:22,160 --> 02:33:24,200
Speaker 7: or they shouldn't take one because their history says that

3432
02:33:24,240 --> 02:33:24,960
Speaker 7: they're not good at it.

3433
02:33:25,400 --> 02:33:27,840
Speaker 2: But even even say both, But even then like I

3434
02:33:27,959 --> 02:33:30,560
Speaker 2: was thinking to myself on my long commute about tight end.

3435
02:33:30,879 --> 02:33:34,200
Speaker 2: And this is during the Belichick era. They needed a

3436
02:33:34,320 --> 02:33:38,880
Speaker 2: tight end and they picked you know, Graham, who was

3437
02:33:38,920 --> 02:33:42,760
Speaker 2: a good blocker, but pretty much that's it. They kept trying.

3438
02:33:42,840 --> 02:33:46,360
Speaker 2: They go after Ben Watson, great athlete, Wasn't that great

3439
02:33:46,400 --> 02:33:48,720
Speaker 2: of a tight end though. That was the problem. They

3440
02:33:48,840 --> 02:33:51,119
Speaker 2: kept trying, and then they took a flyer on Rob

3441
02:33:51,160 --> 02:33:54,080
Speaker 2: Gronkowski and bang they hit. You got to keep trying,

3442
02:33:54,840 --> 02:33:57,640
Speaker 2: you know, even if you have the same regime, even

3443
02:33:57,680 --> 02:34:00,640
Speaker 2: if it was Drod Mayo still here, to keep trying

3444
02:34:00,680 --> 02:34:02,200
Speaker 2: to get a wide receiver, you know.

3445
02:34:02,400 --> 02:34:05,480
Speaker 7: And that's all I'm saying, William Is, I agree with you.

3446
02:34:05,600 --> 02:34:07,840
Speaker 7: They need weapons. They need a number one wide receiver

3447
02:34:08,120 --> 02:34:12,800
Speaker 7: like Stefan Diggs is going to be a good stop gap,

3448
02:34:12,840 --> 02:34:15,240
Speaker 7: but they need a number one wide receiver. But I

3449
02:34:15,360 --> 02:34:17,360
Speaker 7: understand the history has been bad. That doesn't mean you

3450
02:34:17,440 --> 02:34:19,720
Speaker 7: can't you can't find and plus.

3451
02:34:19,600 --> 02:34:21,760
Speaker 2: Like Paul said, it is a new guy in charge.

3452
02:34:22,040 --> 02:34:23,320
Speaker 2: So you know, I.

3453
02:34:25,320 --> 02:34:28,960
Speaker 7: No, we're all with that. We're all in the same page.

3454
02:34:29,000 --> 02:34:31,280
Speaker 6: Well, William Is, can I and you know I can

3455
02:34:31,320 --> 02:34:32,560
Speaker 6: talk to I can talk.

3456
02:34:32,440 --> 02:34:34,640
Speaker 7: To you William differently, than I talk to other guys

3457
02:34:34,680 --> 02:34:36,760
Speaker 7: because you know, we we go back along with it,

3458
02:34:36,840 --> 02:34:39,240
Speaker 7: so I can go back at you, and just like Eldrid,

3459
02:34:39,280 --> 02:34:41,120
Speaker 7: I go at Eldrid too because he's my boy.

3460
02:34:41,240 --> 02:34:44,600
Speaker 2: No, listen, we know we it's been a while. It's

3461
02:34:44,640 --> 02:34:48,039
Speaker 2: been a minute since they picked a true w R one.

3462
02:34:49,240 --> 02:34:50,720
Speaker 7: There's a lot of them out there in that one

3463
02:34:50,760 --> 02:34:53,560
Speaker 7: a minute WR one, Freddie, there you got a man

3464
02:34:53,640 --> 02:34:54,120
Speaker 7: of the young.

3465
02:34:54,240 --> 02:34:55,279
Speaker 2: Thanks William.

3466
02:34:55,680 --> 02:34:57,400
Speaker 6: I just wonder, you know, it's kind of what Paul

3467
02:34:57,560 --> 02:35:00,560
Speaker 6: is saying, and I feel the same way about William.

3468
02:35:00,800 --> 02:35:02,720
Speaker 6: We love William as much. You're a great listener, so

3469
02:35:02,800 --> 02:35:06,440
Speaker 6: that we're not going Adam too much. But unless, like

3470
02:35:06,520 --> 02:35:08,760
Speaker 6: they you know, let's take Travis Hunter out of it,

3471
02:35:08,760 --> 02:35:11,000
Speaker 6: because clearly that wasn't having it. Like were they supposed

3472
02:35:11,000 --> 02:35:14,280
Speaker 6: to take tet at four like or sorry t mac

3473
02:35:14,480 --> 02:35:20,360
Speaker 6: right his mom, Like we're supposed to take you know,

3474
02:35:20,800 --> 02:35:22,920
Speaker 6: were they supposed to take McMillan like that? That was

3475
02:35:23,000 --> 02:35:25,240
Speaker 6: really the only other option, right if you if you

3476
02:35:25,320 --> 02:35:28,520
Speaker 6: wanted to build from the outside in, then you could

3477
02:35:28,560 --> 02:35:31,600
Speaker 6: have taken McMillan. But if you didn't want to, you know,

3478
02:35:31,720 --> 02:35:34,920
Speaker 6: take McMillan, then you're kind of you know, who are

3479
02:35:34,959 --> 02:35:36,280
Speaker 6: you going to take, Like you were going to take

3480
02:35:36,320 --> 02:35:38,640
Speaker 6: Matthew Golden at four. Overall, he's still on the board

3481
02:35:38,680 --> 02:35:41,360
Speaker 6: and we're at eighteen. So I just think that at

3482
02:35:41,360 --> 02:35:44,720
Speaker 6: this point, you know, those were your two options. Maybe

3483
02:35:45,080 --> 02:35:47,480
Speaker 6: if Tet was even in play at four, which I

3484
02:35:47,520 --> 02:35:51,760
Speaker 6: don't think he truly was, But there was no Malik Neighbors,

3485
02:35:51,920 --> 02:35:54,800
Speaker 6: there was no Marvin Harrison Junior in this group to

3486
02:35:55,160 --> 02:35:56,760
Speaker 6: go out in there and say we're going to take

3487
02:35:56,760 --> 02:35:58,920
Speaker 6: this guy at four. Right, So now you're in the

3488
02:35:59,000 --> 02:36:01,560
Speaker 6: position that you're in. You're looking at thirty eight, maybe

3489
02:36:01,600 --> 02:36:03,760
Speaker 6: coming up from thirty eight and trying to get the

3490
02:36:03,840 --> 02:36:07,160
Speaker 6: receiver then. But like Deuce has been saying, I wouldn't

3491
02:36:07,160 --> 02:36:09,280
Speaker 6: be surprised if they went edge with that pick. Like

3492
02:36:09,440 --> 02:36:14,160
Speaker 6: they've talked really extensively about the trenches and the importance

3493
02:36:14,200 --> 02:36:17,320
Speaker 6: of building at the line of scrimmage. So to come

3494
02:36:17,400 --> 02:36:19,360
Speaker 6: up from thirty eight to draft a receiver, you know,

3495
02:36:19,440 --> 02:36:21,560
Speaker 6: Deuce could be right, it could be a defensive lineman,

3496
02:36:21,680 --> 02:36:25,240
Speaker 6: you know, to continue building up and fortifying the offensive

3497
02:36:25,240 --> 02:36:28,480
Speaker 6: and defensive line. So it's just that's where they're at

3498
02:36:28,560 --> 02:36:28,800
Speaker 6: right now.

3499
02:36:28,920 --> 02:36:32,280
Speaker 2: We had a first guard taken Gray's Abel second second, Oh,

3500
02:36:32,360 --> 02:36:37,680
Speaker 2: second guard. Oh okay, Tyler Booker, Sorry, I love the Seahawks.

3501
02:36:38,120 --> 02:36:41,080
Speaker 6: Yeah, Grays Abel's he's going to be an absolute stud.

3502
02:36:41,200 --> 02:36:43,119
Speaker 6: I don't know if he'll play center or guard. It'll

3503
02:36:43,160 --> 02:36:45,879
Speaker 6: be either or I personally would play him at left guard.

3504
02:36:45,959 --> 02:36:48,000
Speaker 6: I Joe Tunium I turned him right into it.

3505
02:36:48,040 --> 02:36:50,119
Speaker 2: I think they're going to have to place center.

3506
02:36:50,879 --> 02:36:55,840
Speaker 6: He's uh, he's a phenomenal, mocking great, great athlete, great

3507
02:36:55,879 --> 02:36:59,360
Speaker 6: grade zone blocker, high level pass blocker. I mean some

3508
02:36:59,440 --> 02:37:00,960
Speaker 6: of the things that he did at the Senior Bowl.

3509
02:37:01,240 --> 02:37:02,880
Speaker 2: What's up, Sean and Connecticut you're on.

3510
02:37:05,640 --> 02:37:08,840
Speaker 13: I was just thinking, as like a fun hypothetical, what

3511
02:37:08,920 --> 02:37:12,600
Speaker 13: would Belichick do with this draft, because I think honestly

3512
02:37:13,360 --> 02:37:16,360
Speaker 13: he though for a dual Carter and trade up kind

3513
02:37:16,400 --> 02:37:18,800
Speaker 13: of because the Lawrence Taylor thing. But I was wondering,

3514
02:37:18,840 --> 02:37:20,080
Speaker 13: way you guys were thinking.

3515
02:37:20,760 --> 02:37:22,520
Speaker 2: Who's available from Rutgers.

3516
02:37:22,720 --> 02:37:25,240
Speaker 7: I think he would have sold his soul to move

3517
02:37:25,360 --> 02:37:26,440
Speaker 7: down out of the top ten.

3518
02:37:26,959 --> 02:37:27,160
Speaker 1: Yeah.

3519
02:37:27,480 --> 02:37:28,160
Speaker 2: I don't know if he would.

3520
02:37:28,280 --> 02:37:29,400
Speaker 7: I don't know if he would have been able to

3521
02:37:29,400 --> 02:37:30,880
Speaker 7: because I don't know if he would have found a partner,

3522
02:37:30,959 --> 02:37:33,720
Speaker 7: But I think he would have been hell bent on

3523
02:37:33,879 --> 02:37:35,520
Speaker 7: getting out of the top ten in this draft.

3524
02:37:35,680 --> 02:37:38,480
Speaker 5: Yeah, I agree. I mean, I can see some trades

3525
02:37:38,520 --> 02:37:41,160
Speaker 5: that he would like with Campbell, But I agree with Paul.

3526
02:37:41,200 --> 02:37:43,120
Speaker 5: I think it's probably too high and he'd be like

3527
02:37:43,120 --> 02:37:44,720
Speaker 5: a lot of the teams right now that are selecting

3528
02:37:44,800 --> 02:37:47,840
Speaker 5: that don't love these guys' first round picks, but they're

3529
02:37:47,879 --> 02:37:50,480
Speaker 5: solid players. And see Bill just wanting to have like

3530
02:37:50,640 --> 02:37:53,800
Speaker 5: fifteen picks in this draft and try to spread them

3531
02:37:53,800 --> 02:37:54,080
Speaker 5: all out.

3532
02:37:54,120 --> 02:37:56,600
Speaker 7: But when you hear people say, you know, whatever the

3533
02:37:56,720 --> 02:38:00,360
Speaker 7: number is, twenty to seventy is the same. Yeah, doesn't

3534
02:38:00,400 --> 02:38:00,920
Speaker 7: that sound.

3535
02:38:00,840 --> 02:38:03,000
Speaker 2: Like that's up?

3536
02:38:03,080 --> 02:38:09,080
Speaker 7: Sure? Yeah, traking down down. But there's no difference between

3537
02:38:09,120 --> 02:38:11,560
Speaker 7: a you know, a bowl full of fifty players and

3538
02:38:11,640 --> 02:38:14,039
Speaker 7: I can get five or six of them sign me up.

3539
02:38:14,160 --> 02:38:14,640
Speaker 7: That's built.

3540
02:38:14,800 --> 02:38:17,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's been his m O forever.

3541
02:38:17,640 --> 02:38:19,560
Speaker 6: So I think we should say just you know, getting

3542
02:38:19,600 --> 02:38:22,520
Speaker 6: into nineteen now with Tampa Bay, we're starting to get

3543
02:38:22,600 --> 02:38:26,280
Speaker 6: into the Shadoor Jackson Dart territory of the draft. And

3544
02:38:27,120 --> 02:38:30,040
Speaker 6: you know, Pittsburgh's at twenty one. That that's the team

3545
02:38:30,080 --> 02:38:33,000
Speaker 6: that everybody feels like they need to get ahead of

3546
02:38:33,520 --> 02:38:37,400
Speaker 6: on if you want Shador Sanders or Jackson Dart really

3547
02:38:37,800 --> 02:38:40,200
Speaker 6: both these teams coming up, Tampa Bay and Denver both

3548
02:38:40,240 --> 02:38:44,720
Speaker 6: don't need quarterbacks, so I'd be interested to see Tampa.

3549
02:38:44,959 --> 02:38:47,160
Speaker 6: I brought it up because the clock is going all

3550
02:38:47,200 --> 02:38:49,360
Speaker 6: the way down. They just finally got to pick in.

3551
02:38:49,560 --> 02:38:51,760
Speaker 6: But my guess is that they've been on the phone

3552
02:38:51,840 --> 02:38:53,600
Speaker 6: trying to the trade out of this pick.

3553
02:38:53,720 --> 02:38:56,959
Speaker 2: Yep, let's go to Ted and Cumberland, Maine.

3554
02:38:57,320 --> 02:38:57,680
Speaker 7: What's up?

3555
02:38:57,760 --> 02:38:57,960
Speaker 1: Ted?

3556
02:38:59,560 --> 02:39:00,039
Speaker 9: We got.

3557
02:39:01,720 --> 02:39:02,879
Speaker 2: That's right, we got.

3558
02:39:05,480 --> 02:39:09,760
Speaker 31: One for all the great draft coverage outside of Mike,

3559
02:39:10,640 --> 02:39:14,280
Speaker 31: you know, first round or first pick with gent that.

3560
02:39:14,320 --> 02:39:15,400
Speaker 7: Broke the internet.

3561
02:39:17,480 --> 02:39:21,360
Speaker 31: Spot on. I'm in every every episode listener, day in

3562
02:39:21,440 --> 02:39:24,200
Speaker 31: the day out. You guys absolutely killed it. Looking forward

3563
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Speaker 31: to us crush the draft.

3564
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Speaker 2: Go path all right, thanks tex.

3565
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Speaker 5: Ted Moseby.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, the Bucks took a Mecca like Buka.

3581
02:40:26,680 --> 02:40:29,760
Speaker 6: So likeg Buka, the second receiver off the board, you know,

3582
02:40:30,000 --> 02:40:32,640
Speaker 6: non Travis Hunter category. So Matthew Golden is still on

3583
02:40:32,760 --> 02:40:34,920
Speaker 6: the board and he was not the second receiver taken.

3584
02:40:35,200 --> 02:40:36,880
Speaker 6: There are conversations that he was going to be the

3585
02:40:36,959 --> 02:40:39,560
Speaker 6: first receiver taken and now he's gonna be at the

3586
02:40:39,600 --> 02:40:43,240
Speaker 6: most the third receiver taken. So we haven't heard anything

3587
02:40:43,280 --> 02:40:46,760
Speaker 6: about Matthew Golden in terms of like injury or anything

3588
02:40:46,920 --> 02:40:49,280
Speaker 6: like that. But we're getting to the territory now or

3589
02:40:49,360 --> 02:40:52,160
Speaker 6: you start to wonder if there's something underneath the surface

3590
02:40:52,240 --> 02:40:55,240
Speaker 6: that didn't come out pre draft with Golden. I mean

3591
02:40:55,280 --> 02:40:57,840
Speaker 6: he doesn't play it at forty times, but I still

3592
02:40:57,920 --> 02:41:00,000
Speaker 6: think that I would have taken him over at Buka.

3593
02:41:00,120 --> 02:41:02,960
Speaker 7: Like both of those guys. A wide receiver that you

3594
02:41:03,040 --> 02:41:09,200
Speaker 7: know Golden and Burden. I would take either one of them.

3595
02:41:09,240 --> 02:41:10,760
Speaker 7: I don't know if I would trade up for him

3596
02:41:11,280 --> 02:41:12,840
Speaker 7: for either one of them, but I but I guess

3597
02:41:12,920 --> 02:41:15,520
Speaker 7: if if you get close enough, you know, like Fred said,

3598
02:41:15,760 --> 02:41:19,039
Speaker 7: you know, like with thirty I have to think about it, right.

3599
02:41:19,040 --> 02:41:22,000
Speaker 6: Like, if you're not giving up a significant amount to

3600
02:41:22,120 --> 02:41:24,440
Speaker 6: make it happen, I really want the guy. Yeah, maybe

3601
02:41:24,480 --> 02:41:26,840
Speaker 6: it's one of six. You know, you're giving up thirty

3602
02:41:26,840 --> 02:41:27,640
Speaker 6: eight and one of six.

3603
02:41:27,959 --> 02:41:30,040
Speaker 5: I'm just I'm interested with the Bucks though, I mean

3604
02:41:30,120 --> 02:41:33,440
Speaker 5: they you know, have long time had of course, you know,

3605
02:41:33,680 --> 02:41:36,320
Speaker 5: Chris Godwin and Mike Evans. Last year you had the

3606
02:41:36,400 --> 02:41:37,519
Speaker 5: other kid from Washington.

3607
02:41:37,320 --> 02:41:39,720
Speaker 7: J and had had a really good second half of

3608
02:41:39,760 --> 02:41:40,360
Speaker 7: the season, and.

3609
02:41:40,400 --> 02:41:42,000
Speaker 5: Now you got another. You know, this is a little

3610
02:41:42,000 --> 02:41:45,119
Speaker 5: bit of a pick in William's territory of just continuing

3611
02:41:45,160 --> 02:41:46,640
Speaker 5: to hammer the wide receiver position.

3612
02:41:46,640 --> 02:41:48,119
Speaker 7: I don't know how they found about the resident god

3613
02:41:48,200 --> 02:41:50,440
Speaker 7: went a little bit, you know, getting a little bit

3614
02:41:50,520 --> 02:41:52,400
Speaker 7: longer to stay ahead of it. Yeah, trying to stay

3615
02:41:52,400 --> 02:41:54,120
Speaker 7: ahead of it. But I don't know, Like I don't

3616
02:41:54,160 --> 02:41:56,920
Speaker 7: know enough about Tampa to know how much their defensive needs.

3617
02:41:57,000 --> 02:42:02,080
Speaker 7: But you know, no corner, you know, the Texas kids

3618
02:42:02,120 --> 02:42:07,160
Speaker 7: still there there? Yeah, thank you Mike and Will Johnson.

3619
02:42:08,720 --> 02:42:10,320
Speaker 7: I don't know again, I don't know enough about the

3620
02:42:10,400 --> 02:42:13,000
Speaker 7: depth chart for the Bucks to know what their specific

3621
02:42:13,080 --> 02:42:15,720
Speaker 7: needs are on defense. But it does seem like an

3622
02:42:15,800 --> 02:42:16,400
Speaker 7: extra pick.

3623
02:42:16,480 --> 02:42:16,680
Speaker 1: Yeah.

3624
02:42:18,760 --> 02:42:21,240
Speaker 22: Will Campbell on the stage, Well.

3625
02:42:21,200 --> 02:42:24,520
Speaker 5: Of course, let's go aspiringly good clip of Will Campbell

3626
02:42:24,560 --> 02:42:25,040
Speaker 5: on stage.

3627
02:42:28,160 --> 02:42:30,920
Speaker 33: Will you are, mister Louisiana, But you just got a

3628
02:42:31,000 --> 02:42:33,720
Speaker 33: love letter from the New England Patriots. You haven't stopped

3629
02:42:33,760 --> 02:42:35,200
Speaker 33: smiling since you heard your name.

3630
02:42:35,640 --> 02:42:36,720
Speaker 17: What's behind that smile?

3631
02:42:37,560 --> 02:42:37,720
Speaker 38: Man?

3632
02:42:37,879 --> 02:42:38,840
Speaker 22: Just all the hard work.

3633
02:42:44,879 --> 02:42:45,800
Speaker 4: Congratulations.

3634
02:42:58,200 --> 02:42:59,640
Speaker 23: I worked in the entire life.

3635
02:43:00,240 --> 02:43:00,760
Speaker 5: Be up here.

3636
02:43:01,760 --> 02:43:04,880
Speaker 34: It's able to get my name called bo franchise like

3637
02:43:05,520 --> 02:43:06,440
Speaker 34: it means everything too.

3638
02:43:07,800 --> 02:43:10,080
Speaker 22: We can feel that, we absolutely can feel that. Well,

3639
02:43:10,760 --> 02:43:11,879
Speaker 22: you are brought to New.

3640
02:43:11,840 --> 02:43:13,200
Speaker 3: England to protect Drake May.

3641
02:43:13,320 --> 02:43:15,120
Speaker 33: What kind of tone are you going to sit on

3642
02:43:15,160 --> 02:43:16,119
Speaker 33: this offensive line?

3643
02:43:16,520 --> 02:43:19,120
Speaker 7: I'm a fight and uh to protect them with everything

3644
02:43:19,200 --> 02:43:25,600
Speaker 7: like that, I will fight and die.

3645
02:43:26,600 --> 02:43:30,560
Speaker 2: I love that he's one of the original minute men.

3646
02:43:30,720 --> 02:43:33,280
Speaker 7: He's ready to go, much like I said when Jamal

3647
02:43:33,320 --> 02:43:35,360
Speaker 7: Adams had a similar kind of comment, Well they don't

3648
02:43:35,360 --> 02:43:37,400
Speaker 7: think there's a need for that, just saying.

3649
02:43:37,360 --> 02:43:38,800
Speaker 2: But he is ready to go.

3650
02:43:39,160 --> 02:43:43,680
Speaker 7: But all right, but the emotion was real though.

3651
02:43:43,959 --> 02:43:46,360
Speaker 6: It's authentic. I was just about to say that, like

3652
02:43:46,400 --> 02:43:48,280
Speaker 6: I know, some people probably think, all right, it's like

3653
02:43:48,360 --> 02:43:51,680
Speaker 6: calm down. But that's him, like dad, that's authentically him.

3654
02:43:51,720 --> 02:43:54,120
Speaker 7: Everything you hear about make fun of him.

3655
02:43:54,360 --> 02:43:56,840
Speaker 6: That that was real, That is authentic. He is that

3656
02:43:57,080 --> 02:43:57,600
Speaker 6: kind of guy.

3657
02:43:58,360 --> 02:44:00,840
Speaker 2: I remember back in the day when ourselves was here

3658
02:44:00,920 --> 02:44:03,680
Speaker 2: and early, you know, when he got here in ninety

3659
02:44:03,720 --> 02:44:06,840
Speaker 2: five ninety four. That's what he was telling his offensive

3660
02:44:06,879 --> 02:44:10,640
Speaker 2: lineman about Bledsoe. I don't care what you have to do.

3661
02:44:11,240 --> 02:44:13,959
Speaker 2: You need to keep him clean. He would hammer that home,

3662
02:44:14,600 --> 02:44:19,920
Speaker 2: you know, to those guys. Yeah, oh yeah, but I do.

3663
02:44:20,280 --> 02:44:23,680
Speaker 2: I remember in particular the way the way Parcels would

3664
02:44:23,720 --> 02:44:25,520
Speaker 2: do it. It was almost like he was saying, well,

3665
02:44:26,400 --> 02:44:28,600
Speaker 2: I don't care if you have to die, he better

3666
02:44:28,720 --> 02:44:31,040
Speaker 2: be standing up at the end of the play, you know.

3667
02:44:32,040 --> 02:44:35,400
Speaker 2: But the way he said it, I will fight and die.

3668
02:44:35,959 --> 02:44:41,160
Speaker 2: I mean, let's go, let's go, come on. I mean

3669
02:44:42,480 --> 02:44:45,560
Speaker 2: every corny line, oh, I love it. I'm a sucker

3670
02:44:45,640 --> 02:44:45,880
Speaker 2: for it.

3671
02:44:46,879 --> 02:44:49,280
Speaker 5: So you know how it is like I mean, Ivan

3672
02:44:49,400 --> 02:44:51,000
Speaker 5: speak this too, Like you go through this whole process

3673
02:44:51,000 --> 02:44:52,560
Speaker 5: and you try not to get too attached to certain

3674
02:44:52,600 --> 02:44:55,040
Speaker 5: guys because you know, you like you guys, you don't

3675
02:44:56,320 --> 02:44:57,920
Speaker 5: I might end up on the Jets, but then you

3676
02:44:58,000 --> 02:44:59,560
Speaker 5: meet this guy and now you can all right, now

3677
02:44:59,600 --> 02:45:01,600
Speaker 5: I can him and he gives you back this stuff

3678
02:45:01,640 --> 02:45:03,200
Speaker 5: and you know, this is stuff I love about the

3679
02:45:03,240 --> 02:45:05,600
Speaker 5: draft Dough. It's just regardless, these people, these kids living

3680
02:45:05,640 --> 02:45:07,400
Speaker 5: their dreams, all this that they've worked so hard for

3681
02:45:07,480 --> 02:45:09,640
Speaker 5: and now they get to achieve it in front of everybody.

3682
02:45:09,680 --> 02:45:12,040
Speaker 2: And it's just that type of attitude is becoming more

3683
02:45:12,040 --> 02:45:14,840
Speaker 2: and more rare in sports. Forget about just football, you know,

3684
02:45:15,040 --> 02:45:18,240
Speaker 2: but the Nils and it's all about me, me the

3685
02:45:18,280 --> 02:45:20,960
Speaker 2: most mind guy, Like I'm willing to give my life

3686
02:45:21,320 --> 02:45:23,960
Speaker 2: from my quarterback and I know it's it's you know,

3687
02:45:24,120 --> 02:45:25,160
Speaker 2: not real perpectly.

3688
02:45:25,280 --> 02:45:27,120
Speaker 5: We need to like cut into Drake Mami, like you

3689
02:45:27,160 --> 02:45:28,920
Speaker 5: know Drake too much, just just.

3690
02:45:29,200 --> 02:45:32,160
Speaker 2: Just saying that the way he said it, that let's go,

3691
02:45:32,800 --> 02:45:33,240
Speaker 2: let's go.

3692
02:45:34,240 --> 02:45:37,280
Speaker 6: It's a good point about like the whole process. And yeah,

3693
02:45:37,520 --> 02:45:40,800
Speaker 6: the first time I posted on my Twitter about Will

3694
02:45:40,840 --> 02:45:42,440
Speaker 6: Campbell was on November twenty six.

3695
02:45:42,920 --> 02:45:45,040
Speaker 7: Yeah, and you know him on the back we go

3696
02:45:45,959 --> 02:45:47,760
Speaker 7: too far away, Thanks for doing God's work.

3697
02:45:48,240 --> 02:45:48,920
Speaker 2: We go through it.

3698
02:45:49,040 --> 02:45:51,080
Speaker 6: We go through this whole process though, and then like

3699
02:45:51,160 --> 02:45:53,120
Speaker 6: that you poke all these holes and all these guys

3700
02:45:53,240 --> 02:45:56,039
Speaker 6: and all the But my thoughts on November twenty six

3701
02:45:56,160 --> 02:45:58,360
Speaker 6: were stud. Like the first time I watched the tape,

3702
02:45:58,400 --> 02:46:00,400
Speaker 6: I was like, this guy's a stud. And then we

3703
02:46:00,480 --> 02:46:02,640
Speaker 6: know we've poke holes the arm length and this and

3704
02:46:02,720 --> 02:46:05,000
Speaker 6: that and the other thing. And sometimes it's just best

3705
02:46:05,040 --> 02:46:07,520
Speaker 6: to like go back to your initial gut instinct after

3706
02:46:07,600 --> 02:46:09,880
Speaker 6: you watched him the first time and look at it

3707
02:46:10,000 --> 02:46:12,200
Speaker 6: that way. And that's what I was getting at, was

3708
02:46:12,280 --> 02:46:14,440
Speaker 6: not you know that, oh I had him first, like

3709
02:46:14,560 --> 02:46:17,840
Speaker 6: you know, but yeah, he you know, you go back

3710
02:46:17,920 --> 02:46:20,560
Speaker 6: to those types of things and you're like, all right, no,

3711
02:46:20,760 --> 02:46:23,080
Speaker 6: this was this is what I thought when you know,

3712
02:46:23,400 --> 02:46:26,240
Speaker 6: just without knowing if his arms were thirty three inches

3713
02:46:26,360 --> 02:46:27,280
Speaker 6: or thirty two and five.

3714
02:46:27,360 --> 02:46:30,000
Speaker 2: A's well that's kind of like like we've been kind

3715
02:46:30,040 --> 02:46:32,360
Speaker 2: of going around circle saying it but in different ways.

3716
02:46:32,440 --> 02:46:35,360
Speaker 2: But like the tape says this, this is what you

3717
02:46:35,480 --> 02:46:38,320
Speaker 2: saw on tape, and then you start punching all these

3718
02:46:38,360 --> 02:46:41,680
Speaker 2: holes and you're like, okay, despite all that, the tape

3719
02:46:41,720 --> 02:46:43,000
Speaker 2: says this, yeah, you know.

3720
02:46:43,520 --> 02:46:46,440
Speaker 7: But and I'm going by Evan here yeah, because I

3721
02:46:47,360 --> 02:46:49,880
Speaker 7: call Evan the ball nowhere in the same situation.

3722
02:46:50,280 --> 02:46:52,240
Speaker 6: Now you're now you're making up for making fun of me.

3723
02:46:52,800 --> 02:46:55,640
Speaker 7: No, no, no no. The tape says the arms are

3724
02:46:55,640 --> 02:46:58,840
Speaker 7: an issue. He gets beat because of the arm length

3725
02:46:58,879 --> 02:47:00,320
Speaker 7: at times on those inside.

3726
02:47:00,440 --> 02:47:02,640
Speaker 2: When he has issues, it's because but right, do.

3727
02:47:02,680 --> 02:47:04,680
Speaker 7: You think that that might be more or less often

3728
02:47:04,800 --> 02:47:05,360
Speaker 7: in the pros.

3729
02:47:05,920 --> 02:47:08,200
Speaker 2: I think it's it's gonna be a little bit more

3730
02:47:08,640 --> 02:47:11,160
Speaker 2: because he's gonna, you know, go up against guys who

3731
02:47:11,200 --> 02:47:11,800
Speaker 2: are bigger and.

3732
02:47:11,879 --> 02:47:13,840
Speaker 7: Longer, more athletic.

3733
02:47:14,040 --> 02:47:16,360
Speaker 2: Right, But he's gonna get better too, you know, and

3734
02:47:16,440 --> 02:47:19,440
Speaker 2: he's gonna get good coaching. And I hope, you know,

3735
02:47:19,480 --> 02:47:21,440
Speaker 2: because that's that's part of it. We've talked about. And

3736
02:47:21,520 --> 02:47:23,480
Speaker 2: he's got to get good coaching. He's gotta be he's

3737
02:47:23,520 --> 02:47:26,080
Speaker 2: got to be good. Yeah, he's got to be.

3738
02:47:26,240 --> 02:47:28,800
Speaker 7: Yeah, he was taken with the fourth pick. He's it's

3739
02:47:28,920 --> 02:47:30,720
Speaker 7: it's on him. He's got to be a good player.

3740
02:47:30,959 --> 02:47:35,360
Speaker 6: I just I do wonder, you know, with the overseets

3741
02:47:35,360 --> 02:47:38,160
Speaker 6: and the things like that, Like it'll be great to

3742
02:47:38,280 --> 02:47:40,400
Speaker 6: talk to Doug Moron about this now that he's actually

3743
02:47:40,440 --> 02:47:42,280
Speaker 6: a patriot. I think, you know, when he's not, you

3744
02:47:42,400 --> 02:47:44,480
Speaker 6: kind of can't really talk as in depth about it

3745
02:47:44,560 --> 02:47:47,200
Speaker 6: when he's on your team yet, but you know, there

3746
02:47:47,320 --> 02:47:52,000
Speaker 6: has to be ways technique wise to help him not

3747
02:47:52,800 --> 02:47:55,480
Speaker 6: drift in his past sets and open up the inside. Like,

3748
02:47:55,560 --> 02:47:57,000
Speaker 6: there has to be ways to help him.

3749
02:47:57,200 --> 02:47:57,360
Speaker 13: You know.

3750
02:47:57,440 --> 02:47:59,400
Speaker 6: Maybe it's helping him, like I was saying earlier, with

3751
02:47:59,560 --> 02:48:01,880
Speaker 6: chips and stuff like that, so he's not feeling the

3752
02:48:01,920 --> 02:48:02,560
Speaker 6: speed as much.

3753
02:48:02,760 --> 02:48:05,560
Speaker 2: And I'm not I'm not the tape grinder that you are, Evan,

3754
02:48:05,600 --> 02:48:07,800
Speaker 2: But in the little that I watched of him, I

3755
02:48:08,000 --> 02:48:11,280
Speaker 2: noticed that he's very quick in his backstep, and that

3756
02:48:11,400 --> 02:48:14,960
Speaker 2: gives him time to not allow the longer armed guys

3757
02:48:15,000 --> 02:48:17,080
Speaker 2: to get into his chest so quick. He gives him

3758
02:48:17,120 --> 02:48:19,600
Speaker 2: time to kind of set that base and he's got

3759
02:48:19,640 --> 02:48:22,440
Speaker 2: the quick feed. I noticed that right away. He's got

3760
02:48:22,560 --> 02:48:25,480
Speaker 2: very quick feet to form that foundation so that he

3761
02:48:25,560 --> 02:48:30,160
Speaker 2: can absorb whatever's coming, you know, whether it's outside or inside,

3762
02:48:30,280 --> 02:48:33,040
Speaker 2: and and give himself time to get ready for that

3763
02:48:33,200 --> 02:48:36,200
Speaker 2: initial hit by maybe a longer player. So I think

3764
02:48:36,280 --> 02:48:39,320
Speaker 2: he over time, he's learned that and you know, hopefully

3765
02:48:39,360 --> 02:48:41,720
Speaker 2: he's gonna get even better at that. But yes, he

3766
02:48:41,879 --> 02:48:44,800
Speaker 2: has to compensate a little bit. He doesn't have Tyron

3767
02:48:44,879 --> 02:48:48,320
Speaker 2: Smith with that initial hit, which I you know, I

3768
02:48:48,360 --> 02:48:50,680
Speaker 2: would love watching him because he would just stone the

3769
02:48:50,760 --> 02:48:53,119
Speaker 2: guy once he got his hands in there, he would

3770
02:48:53,160 --> 02:48:56,199
Speaker 2: stone the defensive player. That's not Will Campbell. He's gonna

3771
02:48:56,240 --> 02:48:58,720
Speaker 2: win a different way. He's gonna win a different way.

3772
02:48:58,959 --> 02:49:01,440
Speaker 6: He's got really strong hands once he gets his hands in.

3773
02:49:03,080 --> 02:49:07,039
Speaker 2: Like like hands yeah, likeney honey, like huge.

3774
02:49:07,200 --> 02:49:07,400
Speaker 7: Yeah.

3775
02:49:07,440 --> 02:49:09,680
Speaker 6: He's got great grip straight So once he gets his

3776
02:49:09,760 --> 02:49:13,160
Speaker 6: hands on you, he can control blocks and really hold guys.

3777
02:49:13,200 --> 02:49:15,760
Speaker 6: That's that's not the biggest issue. You know, I want

3778
02:49:15,760 --> 02:49:18,280
Speaker 6: to keep laboring the point. But you know, all that

3779
02:49:18,480 --> 02:49:21,560
Speaker 6: you see on him on film where he loses reps

3780
02:49:21,840 --> 02:49:24,640
Speaker 6: the most consistently is that the speed guys will come

3781
02:49:24,720 --> 02:49:27,000
Speaker 6: off the edge on him and so he doesn't have

3782
02:49:27,160 --> 02:49:29,120
Speaker 6: the reach to get out there. So he has to

3783
02:49:29,320 --> 02:49:32,440
Speaker 6: overseet to get out there. And when they anticipate that

3784
02:49:32,520 --> 02:49:35,560
Speaker 6: he's going to overseet, they'll hit him with an inside move, right,

3785
02:49:35,640 --> 02:49:38,560
Speaker 6: they'll spin or they're whip inside or whatever the case

3786
02:49:38,640 --> 02:49:40,560
Speaker 6: may be. And there's just a gap there. You know,

3787
02:49:40,600 --> 02:49:44,120
Speaker 6: there's a there's a bigger area there to to get

3788
02:49:44,160 --> 02:49:46,960
Speaker 6: through to the quarterback. So he sees a lot of

3789
02:49:47,000 --> 02:49:50,400
Speaker 6: that of his on tape, and the question is can

3790
02:49:50,440 --> 02:49:52,320
Speaker 6: they coach it out of him? Is there a way

3791
02:49:52,400 --> 02:49:56,360
Speaker 6: to coach it out of him right? Or can he

3792
02:49:56,520 --> 02:49:58,720
Speaker 6: coach around it right? You know, like those are the

3793
02:49:58,760 --> 02:50:01,240
Speaker 6: two things you know that you can look at it.

3794
02:50:01,520 --> 02:50:04,640
Speaker 6: But I think in general we're talking about two to

3795
02:50:04,720 --> 02:50:07,680
Speaker 6: three plays a game. But unfortunately, for an offensive lineman,

3796
02:50:08,240 --> 02:50:10,840
Speaker 6: that can be a strip sack that changes the entire game, right,

3797
02:50:10,959 --> 02:50:13,520
Speaker 6: And that's just the way of the world for offensive line.

3798
02:50:13,600 --> 02:50:15,240
Speaker 2: And Rabel said it. You know, if you're going to

3799
02:50:15,400 --> 02:50:18,400
Speaker 2: drop back forty times in the game, everybody's gonna get

3800
02:50:18,440 --> 02:50:20,879
Speaker 2: beat a few times. You know, that's just the way

3801
02:50:20,920 --> 02:50:26,400
Speaker 2: of the NFL. But okay, David, and Texas is on

3802
02:50:26,520 --> 02:50:26,879
Speaker 2: the line.

3803
02:50:26,879 --> 02:50:27,600
Speaker 7: What's up, David?

3804
02:50:29,240 --> 02:50:29,360
Speaker 2: Ah?

3805
02:50:29,560 --> 02:50:32,960
Speaker 15: Yes, not to bring it back from what Evan was

3806
02:50:33,000 --> 02:50:38,280
Speaker 15: talking about earlier, but he was talking about bringing or

3807
02:50:38,400 --> 02:50:41,880
Speaker 15: building from the outside in on the receivers. My question is,

3808
02:50:42,800 --> 02:50:47,400
Speaker 15: would you have traded what Jacksonville did to trade up

3809
02:50:47,480 --> 02:50:50,640
Speaker 15: to get Jacksonville or I'm sorry Travis Hunter and I'll.

3810
02:50:50,480 --> 02:50:51,039
Speaker 22: Take it off there.

3811
02:50:51,160 --> 02:50:52,119
Speaker 7: Okay, thanks David.

3812
02:50:52,480 --> 02:50:53,840
Speaker 6: No, I would not have done that.

3813
02:50:54,320 --> 02:50:55,360
Speaker 7: I would not have either.

3814
02:50:55,640 --> 02:50:57,360
Speaker 6: I think the Patriots have too many needs.

3815
02:50:57,480 --> 02:50:59,320
Speaker 2: Well, you wouldn't have had to give up as much

3816
02:50:59,440 --> 02:51:03,280
Speaker 2: as jackson I mean as yeah, as much as Jacksonville did, right, what.

3817
02:51:03,400 --> 02:51:07,200
Speaker 7: Was different for one spot would have been pretty similar?

3818
02:51:07,320 --> 02:51:12,119
Speaker 2: Yeah, similar, But they gave a haul. If you think

3819
02:51:12,160 --> 02:51:14,160
Speaker 2: that they'd have to give up the same, yeah, I

3820
02:51:14,160 --> 02:51:16,240
Speaker 2: wouldn't have done it either, but maybe a little less.

3821
02:51:17,000 --> 02:51:19,120
Speaker 6: Maybe some of those Day two and Day three picks

3822
02:51:19,120 --> 02:51:20,640
Speaker 6: would have been a little less. But you're giving up

3823
02:51:20,680 --> 02:51:21,800
Speaker 6: the twenty twenty six first.

3824
02:51:22,200 --> 02:51:25,040
Speaker 7: I hate doing that. The second, Yeah, the picks. What

3825
02:51:25,280 --> 02:51:27,880
Speaker 7: might have been different, Yeah, but I don't think you

3826
02:51:27,959 --> 02:51:29,800
Speaker 7: can two to four to two is going to be

3827
02:51:29,840 --> 02:51:30,600
Speaker 7: a similar haul.

3828
02:51:31,040 --> 02:51:33,880
Speaker 6: And I think if it was a situation where you

3829
02:51:33,959 --> 02:51:37,039
Speaker 6: know they you're it was a quarterback draft and you're

3830
02:51:37,040 --> 02:51:39,840
Speaker 6: making that trade for a quarterback, that's a different thing.

3831
02:51:40,240 --> 02:51:41,240
Speaker 6: This isn't a quarterback.

3832
02:51:41,360 --> 02:51:44,360
Speaker 2: I wonder, I wonder if there was competition there that

3833
02:51:44,600 --> 02:51:47,640
Speaker 2: forced Jacksonville to give up even more.

3834
02:51:48,720 --> 02:51:51,879
Speaker 6: It's possible. I mean, I don't know. I everybody keeps

3835
02:51:51,920 --> 02:51:53,880
Speaker 6: on disagreeing with me on this one, so I guess

3836
02:51:53,920 --> 02:51:56,480
Speaker 6: I'll just be in the minority. Like I just still

3837
02:51:56,480 --> 02:51:59,080
Speaker 6: don't understand what what the Browns are trying to accomplish,

3838
02:51:59,320 --> 02:52:02,240
Speaker 6: Like I I'm just a little lost on Cleveland, and

3839
02:52:02,320 --> 02:52:04,440
Speaker 6: then to take Mason Graham there at five, it's just

3840
02:52:04,520 --> 02:52:04,959
Speaker 6: I question.

3841
02:52:05,200 --> 02:52:06,520
Speaker 7: Yeah, I don't love the pick.

3842
02:52:06,879 --> 02:52:09,480
Speaker 6: Like, and everybody's saying, oh, they had to make this trade.

3843
02:52:09,520 --> 02:52:12,720
Speaker 6: Well not really, like they didn't have to make the trade. Like,

3844
02:52:12,879 --> 02:52:16,480
Speaker 6: so you go into twenty twenty six, Jacksonville probably feels

3845
02:52:16,480 --> 02:52:18,720
Speaker 6: pretty good about their team. You know, if Jacksonville's a

3846
02:52:18,720 --> 02:52:20,440
Speaker 6: wild card team again like they were a couple of

3847
02:52:20,480 --> 02:52:23,360
Speaker 6: years ago, Like that picks in the twenties now, like's

3848
02:52:23,400 --> 02:52:25,440
Speaker 6: not that's not you know, the asset that you necessarily

3849
02:52:25,480 --> 02:52:26,039
Speaker 6: think you're getting.

3850
02:52:26,040 --> 02:52:28,200
Speaker 7: But they'll have an extra first round pick to move

3851
02:52:28,320 --> 02:52:29,120
Speaker 7: up if they need to.

3852
02:52:29,600 --> 02:52:31,680
Speaker 6: Well, they're gonna be picking number one overall with the

3853
02:52:31,720 --> 02:52:34,320
Speaker 6: team that they have, like Cleveland.

3854
02:52:34,680 --> 02:52:37,640
Speaker 7: Cleveland's not bad. Cleveland doesn't have a quarterback just like

3855
02:52:37,720 --> 02:52:39,640
Speaker 7: everybody else. But they're not a terrible team.

3856
02:52:39,760 --> 02:52:40,920
Speaker 6: They're just picking two overall.

3857
02:52:40,959 --> 02:52:44,160
Speaker 7: I mean, removed from being a playoff team with no quarterback. Yeah,

3858
02:52:44,720 --> 02:52:46,600
Speaker 7: I mean that's not a terrible team.

3859
02:52:46,680 --> 02:52:51,440
Speaker 2: I think they were competitively competitive defensively, but yeah, their offense,

3860
02:52:51,440 --> 02:52:51,800
Speaker 2: they don't have.

3861
02:52:52,240 --> 02:52:54,880
Speaker 7: Have a quarterback. Yeah, and if ken Ticket plays like crap,

3862
02:52:55,920 --> 02:52:58,960
Speaker 7: they'll be a top ten team again. Yeah, and they'll

3863
02:52:59,000 --> 02:53:01,560
Speaker 7: be able to see a radically to be in line

3864
02:53:01,600 --> 02:53:03,680
Speaker 7: to get a quarterback in the next draft with two

3865
02:53:03,720 --> 02:53:05,840
Speaker 7: first round picks to move where they need to get.

3866
02:53:06,080 --> 02:53:06,840
Speaker 5: Wait till next year.

3867
02:53:06,920 --> 02:53:09,160
Speaker 7: Now, if they win too many games and they get

3868
02:53:09,240 --> 02:53:12,080
Speaker 7: into mediocre purgatory, which is where I think they're probably

3869
02:53:12,120 --> 02:53:15,879
Speaker 7: gonna end up, like in that seven win area, which

3870
02:53:15,959 --> 02:53:17,120
Speaker 7: isn't going to get you high enough.

3871
02:53:17,200 --> 02:53:19,200
Speaker 5: But still, like to Evan's point, I can't name one

3872
02:53:19,240 --> 02:53:20,240
Speaker 5: guy on their offense right.

3873
02:53:20,200 --> 02:53:21,800
Speaker 7: Now, Like who who Harry Judy?

3874
02:53:22,000 --> 02:53:23,800
Speaker 5: I mean Nick Chubb, you know, Bick Chubb.

3875
02:53:23,879 --> 02:53:24,600
Speaker 7: No, Nick Chubb.

3876
02:53:24,680 --> 02:53:25,520
Speaker 6: No, he's a free agent.

3877
02:53:25,600 --> 02:53:28,560
Speaker 5: Yeah, he's a free agent. But I mean if Jerry Chubb,

3878
02:53:28,600 --> 02:53:30,360
Speaker 5: if they want him, yeah, I mean, if they want him,

3879
02:53:30,560 --> 02:53:34,160
Speaker 5: but just here strong he's probably you know, to me,

3880
02:53:34,360 --> 02:53:36,480
Speaker 5: to Evan's point, that's the move for the Browns to

3881
02:53:37,120 --> 02:53:41,040
Speaker 5: redefine your offense. Nobody's talking about Yeah, No one's talking

3882
02:53:41,040 --> 02:53:43,320
Speaker 5: about de Shaun Watson anymore. You bring in Travis Hunter,

3883
02:53:43,400 --> 02:53:45,000
Speaker 5: now you know you have a new energy about your

3884
02:53:45,040 --> 02:53:45,680
Speaker 5: offense a little bit.

3885
02:53:45,959 --> 02:53:47,640
Speaker 7: I think that that move could be I just don't want.

3886
02:53:49,000 --> 02:53:51,119
Speaker 7: I mean, I think it's off the board. Pard maybe

3887
02:53:51,160 --> 02:53:53,440
Speaker 7: he's maybe he's much better than I'm giving him credit

3888
02:53:53,520 --> 02:53:56,240
Speaker 7: for and he's just going to be a disruptive, you know,

3889
02:53:56,400 --> 02:53:58,880
Speaker 7: interior defensive lineman. You know you've got Miles Garret the

3890
02:53:58,959 --> 02:54:01,080
Speaker 7: outside and all of a sud and you got a

3891
02:54:01,280 --> 02:54:04,120
Speaker 7: really really good defense look at us.

3892
02:54:04,959 --> 02:54:07,760
Speaker 5: So the offense probably they didn't know.

3893
02:54:08,000 --> 02:54:11,120
Speaker 6: They took Derek Harmon, the defensive tackle from Oregon, So I.

3894
02:54:11,160 --> 02:54:13,080
Speaker 5: Saw somewhere at comp that's like this guy was made

3895
02:54:13,080 --> 02:54:13,680
Speaker 5: to be a Steeler.

3896
02:54:13,840 --> 02:54:19,000
Speaker 6: Yeah, no quarterback to their feelings would look I think

3897
02:54:19,040 --> 02:54:21,119
Speaker 6: the biggest thing with the Browns. If they had made

3898
02:54:21,160 --> 02:54:25,840
Speaker 6: that trade and they had taken genty at five, then

3899
02:54:25,920 --> 02:54:27,879
Speaker 6: I would have said smart trade.

3900
02:54:27,879 --> 02:54:29,800
Speaker 7: I would have liked it a lot better that way.

3901
02:54:29,840 --> 02:54:32,320
Speaker 7: But if they if they stayed pat and they took

3902
02:54:32,360 --> 02:54:35,800
Speaker 7: Travis Hunter and you think that they're in the line

3903
02:54:35,840 --> 02:54:38,520
Speaker 7: for the first overall pick, where does Travis Hunter put them? Well?

3904
02:54:38,560 --> 02:54:40,680
Speaker 6: I think I think the difference is, though, is what

3905
02:54:40,800 --> 02:54:44,760
Speaker 6: Deuce is saying, right, Like, it's just you can't get

3906
02:54:44,800 --> 02:54:47,240
Speaker 6: excited if you're a Browns fan for Mason Graham, you

3907
02:54:47,360 --> 02:54:49,440
Speaker 6: can't and like you can you can sell them on

3908
02:54:50,360 --> 02:54:52,760
Speaker 6: the right. But there's just a different juice, Like there's

3909
02:54:52,800 --> 02:54:55,840
Speaker 6: just a different energy to the offense into the room.

3910
02:54:56,120 --> 02:54:58,600
Speaker 6: Like if you have Travis Hunter and then you're able

3911
02:54:58,640 --> 02:55:00,480
Speaker 6: to get one of these quarterbacks, it's going to go

3912
02:55:00,560 --> 02:55:03,320
Speaker 6: in the early second round of Shadora, Jackson Dart something

3913
02:55:03,400 --> 02:55:05,760
Speaker 6: like that, like that that you can sell, like that

3914
02:55:06,080 --> 02:55:06,960
Speaker 6: that you can cook with.

3915
02:55:07,120 --> 02:55:08,800
Speaker 7: I mean, were we ten picks away.

3916
02:55:08,959 --> 02:55:10,480
Speaker 6: Yeah, so now they're going to get the door and

3917
02:55:10,560 --> 02:55:13,040
Speaker 6: then Mason Graham like, you know, it's just not the

3918
02:55:13,120 --> 02:55:14,279
Speaker 6: hal that I would have expected.

3919
02:55:14,480 --> 02:55:17,120
Speaker 7: But if they can, if they can get a developmental quarterback,

3920
02:55:18,240 --> 02:55:19,880
Speaker 7: maybe you feel a little bit better about it. And

3921
02:55:20,040 --> 02:55:22,240
Speaker 7: you have that pick, you know, that extra pick for

3922
02:55:22,320 --> 02:55:24,560
Speaker 7: next year, and you have two second round that.

3923
02:55:24,640 --> 02:55:28,000
Speaker 6: Regime Andrew Berry and Stefanski, they better hope that Travis

3924
02:55:28,080 --> 02:55:30,800
Speaker 6: Hunter is is not what everybody thinks he's going to be.

3925
02:55:31,160 --> 02:55:33,440
Speaker 6: You know, like if he goes to Jacksonville and he's

3926
02:55:33,480 --> 02:55:35,560
Speaker 6: as good as he was in college, like they're they're

3927
02:55:35,640 --> 02:55:36,440
Speaker 6: going to be in trouble.

3928
02:55:37,720 --> 02:55:42,040
Speaker 2: All right, let's go to uh George, Rhode Island. What's up, George?

3929
02:55:43,320 --> 02:55:48,640
Speaker 40: Hey, guys join the conference. Patriots, Fancy is a ticket

3930
02:55:48,680 --> 02:55:52,680
Speaker 40: oldest eighty three And for me, we're in year two

3931
02:55:52,760 --> 02:55:56,360
Speaker 40: of what I hope is a multi year, multiple player,

3932
02:55:57,280 --> 02:56:02,560
Speaker 40: three to five year window of successful draft picks. I mean,

3933
02:56:02,640 --> 02:56:05,560
Speaker 40: in my lifetime, we had fair Banks drafts from seventy

3934
02:56:05,640 --> 02:56:09,440
Speaker 40: three to seventy eight, parcels from ninety three to ninety six,

3935
02:56:10,200 --> 02:56:12,520
Speaker 40: and then Bellichick. I guess what would you say two

3936
02:56:12,560 --> 02:56:16,280
Speaker 40: thousand and to five, maybe twenty ten to fifteen. But

3937
02:56:16,800 --> 02:56:19,119
Speaker 40: this is like year two where we've got to stack

3938
02:56:19,360 --> 02:56:23,240
Speaker 40: multiple players coming out of multiple drafts to have the

3939
02:56:23,320 --> 02:56:26,160
Speaker 40: sustained success that I think Rabel is looking for.

3940
02:56:26,400 --> 02:56:29,039
Speaker 2: Right, Oh, sure, you got to build through the draft, Ye,

3941
02:56:29,320 --> 02:56:29,800
Speaker 2: you have to have.

3942
02:56:29,920 --> 02:56:32,200
Speaker 7: You better hope this is year one of that. Because

3943
02:56:32,600 --> 02:56:34,240
Speaker 7: last year was considered a good one.

3944
02:56:36,200 --> 02:56:37,200
Speaker 6: You have to continue it.

3945
02:56:37,320 --> 02:56:39,520
Speaker 7: But that'd be a lot better than that, right, I Mean,

3946
02:56:39,560 --> 02:56:40,959
Speaker 7: I've pushed back on the notion.

3947
02:56:40,920 --> 02:56:44,080
Speaker 41: That they're like three years away, Like if this draft

3948
02:56:44,200 --> 02:56:47,440
Speaker 41: is this, if George is on board here and they

3949
02:56:47,520 --> 02:56:50,800
Speaker 41: get you know, two, three, maybe even four players this

3950
02:56:50,959 --> 02:56:53,320
Speaker 41: year that are good, Yeah, absolutely can be accelerated.

3951
02:56:53,320 --> 02:56:54,600
Speaker 2: It could be the edge of the playoffs.

3952
02:56:54,959 --> 02:56:57,200
Speaker 6: They should be you have him in the playoffs, they

3953
02:56:57,200 --> 02:56:59,480
Speaker 6: should be competitive this year. Like I'm not saying they're

3954
02:56:59,480 --> 02:56:59,840
Speaker 6: gonna win.

3955
02:56:59,760 --> 02:57:02,800
Speaker 7: A Super but it's a terrible, terrible schedule they're going

3956
02:57:02,879 --> 02:57:04,560
Speaker 7: to play. And I know Fred hates when I do that,

3957
02:57:04,760 --> 02:57:08,279
Speaker 7: but they are playing a terrible schedule, terrible.

3958
02:57:07,959 --> 02:57:08,760
Speaker 2: In that it's tough.

3959
02:57:09,720 --> 02:57:10,959
Speaker 7: No, no, and it's easy.

3960
02:57:11,040 --> 02:57:11,959
Speaker 2: Oh you think it's easy.

3961
02:57:12,120 --> 02:57:14,440
Speaker 7: Okay. They have a lot of teams that are at

3962
02:57:14,520 --> 02:57:18,080
Speaker 7: their level. Okay, So let's go from a personnel standpoint,

3963
02:57:18,120 --> 02:57:19,600
Speaker 7: and I think their coaching is going to be better

3964
02:57:19,680 --> 02:57:20,679
Speaker 7: with Mike greebel.

3965
02:57:20,440 --> 02:57:23,959
Speaker 6: Right, the better coaching, the free agency hall that they had.

3966
02:57:24,360 --> 02:57:26,760
Speaker 6: You know, if they have a good draft, like everybody

3967
02:57:26,840 --> 02:57:28,960
Speaker 6: keeps telling me that it's a three to five year rebuild,

3968
02:57:29,280 --> 02:57:31,120
Speaker 6: If this takes three years, then this regime is going

3969
02:57:31,160 --> 02:57:33,120
Speaker 6: to be blown out. Like they're not going to have

3970
02:57:33,200 --> 02:57:35,800
Speaker 6: three years. It's not the NFL anymore. Like these teams

3971
02:57:36,320 --> 02:57:37,360
Speaker 6: turn it over quickly.

3972
02:57:37,680 --> 02:57:39,400
Speaker 2: You have to be competing really quick.

3973
02:57:39,440 --> 02:57:42,240
Speaker 7: I would just say that if this is all contingent

3974
02:57:42,320 --> 02:57:46,120
Speaker 7: on on Drake may making a progression, yes, and if

3975
02:57:46,440 --> 02:57:49,960
Speaker 7: he does, then you should absolutely be competitive this year.

3976
02:57:50,120 --> 02:57:53,600
Speaker 7: Seven eight wins, six six seven wins. I don't think

3977
02:57:53,640 --> 02:57:54,360
Speaker 7: that's out of the question.

3978
02:57:54,760 --> 02:57:57,920
Speaker 2: It better not be Robins than Fort Lauderdale.

3979
02:57:58,000 --> 02:58:00,680
Speaker 7: What's that, Robin, Hey.

3980
02:58:00,600 --> 02:58:02,360
Speaker 18: Guys, can you hear me?

3981
02:58:02,400 --> 02:58:02,640
Speaker 10: Okay?

3982
02:58:02,879 --> 02:58:03,080
Speaker 2: Yeah?

3983
02:58:03,200 --> 02:58:05,720
Speaker 5: Yeah, like the win.

3984
02:58:06,280 --> 02:58:07,080
Speaker 16: Before I knew.

3985
02:58:08,560 --> 02:58:12,360
Speaker 32: Paul big fan here back in the day, there was

3986
02:58:12,400 --> 02:58:14,480
Speaker 32: a rant you did about you and your son going

3987
02:58:14,520 --> 02:58:18,640
Speaker 32: to ducking donut. If you can put that that on

3988
02:58:18,680 --> 02:58:21,640
Speaker 32: the website, then I'm sure. I don't speak for myself

3989
02:58:21,720 --> 02:58:23,680
Speaker 32: that that would be really cool. That just cracked me

3990
02:58:23,760 --> 02:58:24,280
Speaker 32: up for years.

3991
02:58:24,800 --> 02:58:28,920
Speaker 7: I appreciate it getting getting to my point, and this

3992
02:58:29,080 --> 02:58:30,640
Speaker 7: is the point I want to make real quick because

3993
02:58:30,640 --> 02:58:32,039
Speaker 7: I know you have other calls.

3994
02:58:32,600 --> 02:58:37,320
Speaker 17: And I love the pick we needed Will Campbell. I

3995
02:58:37,560 --> 02:58:42,320
Speaker 17: really think here's been the problem full time with everybody. Rabel,

3996
02:58:43,320 --> 02:58:48,080
Speaker 17: Bill Edelman, Grunk. They all think that, and yet they

3997
02:58:48,120 --> 02:58:52,879
Speaker 17: were great contributors to our success. But it was Brady.

3998
02:58:53,800 --> 02:59:00,560
Speaker 17: We don't have Brady anymore, Bill, Mike Roberts, everybody need Yeah, okay,

3999
02:59:01,480 --> 02:59:05,120
Speaker 17: enough with getting the good guys, the guys that that

4000
02:59:05,200 --> 02:59:10,560
Speaker 17: are good, coachable. We need playmakers. We need game changers.

4001
02:59:10,760 --> 02:59:13,680
Speaker 17: Look who won the Super Bowl last year, Philly, And.

4002
02:59:13,760 --> 02:59:15,000
Speaker 18: It's a young man's game.

4003
02:59:15,240 --> 02:59:16,560
Speaker 6: We need talent.

4004
02:59:17,040 --> 02:59:19,480
Speaker 17: Talf's out here no more and worked with Tom.

4005
02:59:19,400 --> 02:59:22,800
Speaker 6: He could he could turn Who's disagreeing with that to

4006
02:59:22,920 --> 02:59:23,440
Speaker 6: chicken bleek?

4007
02:59:23,600 --> 02:59:25,039
Speaker 28: Who he need talent?

4008
02:59:25,320 --> 02:59:26,800
Speaker 6: Who's saying any differently than that?

4009
02:59:26,920 --> 02:59:27,080
Speaker 7: Why?

4010
02:59:27,280 --> 02:59:29,360
Speaker 6: Okay saying any different?

4011
02:59:29,400 --> 02:59:29,640
Speaker 28: Why?

4012
02:59:30,879 --> 02:59:35,879
Speaker 17: And why this aversion to to to drafting playmaking game?

4013
02:59:36,200 --> 02:59:37,400
Speaker 2: Who should they have taken it for?

4014
02:59:38,120 --> 02:59:38,160
Speaker 9: Me?

4015
02:59:38,760 --> 02:59:39,000
Speaker 7: Okay?

4016
02:59:39,040 --> 02:59:40,279
Speaker 2: Who should have they have taken.

4017
02:59:40,160 --> 02:59:42,760
Speaker 17: It for I'm not talking about for I'm glad you

4018
02:59:42,800 --> 02:59:44,800
Speaker 17: got before you built the house.

4019
02:59:44,840 --> 02:59:46,760
Speaker 16: He needs the foundation. I'm talking about.

4020
02:59:46,800 --> 02:59:48,160
Speaker 17: When was the last time.

4021
02:59:48,080 --> 02:59:50,199
Speaker 16: Gentleman, all of you media.

4022
02:59:50,200 --> 02:59:53,879
Speaker 17: Anyone who's listening, when was the last time New England

4023
02:59:54,040 --> 02:59:58,400
Speaker 17: and Bill, I'm talking to you, especially a quiet or

4024
02:59:58,560 --> 03:00:03,240
Speaker 17: drafted game breaking talent. And the reason you didn't is

4025
03:00:03,320 --> 03:00:07,160
Speaker 17: because when Tom was head, you didn't have to flash

4026
03:00:07,280 --> 03:00:09,119
Speaker 17: for everyone in patriotsation.

4027
03:00:10,560 --> 03:00:11,600
Speaker 42: Tom is not here.

4028
03:00:12,480 --> 03:00:14,760
Speaker 17: We need draft James.

4029
03:00:15,640 --> 03:00:21,240
Speaker 7: Robin, I have another news flash, Bill Belichick isn't here

4030
03:00:21,280 --> 03:00:21,920
Speaker 7: anymore either.

4031
03:00:22,440 --> 03:00:24,320
Speaker 2: Do you think Drake May has the potential to be

4032
03:00:24,440 --> 03:00:24,800
Speaker 2: that guy?

4033
03:00:26,360 --> 03:00:26,480
Speaker 1: Right?

4034
03:00:26,600 --> 03:00:27,200
Speaker 2: Robin? Do you think?

4035
03:00:28,680 --> 03:00:31,480
Speaker 7: Okay? Do you do you think that they've tried not

4036
03:00:31,640 --> 03:00:34,360
Speaker 7: to draft like do you think that their their goal

4037
03:00:34,600 --> 03:00:37,360
Speaker 7: was to like have an aversion to playmakers?

4038
03:00:37,800 --> 03:00:37,840
Speaker 18: Like?

4039
03:00:37,920 --> 03:00:39,760
Speaker 7: Do you think when they drafted Nikhil Harry in the

4040
03:00:39,800 --> 03:00:41,959
Speaker 7: first round. They said, we're going to draft him because

4041
03:00:41,959 --> 03:00:42,880
Speaker 7: he's not a playmaker.

4042
03:00:43,760 --> 03:00:46,760
Speaker 2: No, listen, Robin, you're right, they need more talent, But

4043
03:00:46,959 --> 03:00:49,440
Speaker 2: do you think Drake may can be one of those people?

4044
03:00:50,480 --> 03:00:51,000
Speaker 28: I love Drake.

4045
03:00:51,160 --> 03:00:55,240
Speaker 17: I'm not talking about d Okay drafted Drake May.

4046
03:00:55,879 --> 03:00:58,400
Speaker 7: I agree with that, but like the whole like they

4047
03:00:58,520 --> 03:01:01,720
Speaker 7: haven't drafted a playmaker. I agreed, they've made bad picks,

4048
03:01:02,480 --> 03:01:04,640
Speaker 7: but you're making it out to be that they're trying

4049
03:01:04,720 --> 03:01:07,520
Speaker 7: to make bad picks, like they don't want playmakers because

4050
03:01:07,520 --> 03:01:09,040
Speaker 7: they had Brady all those years.

4051
03:01:09,200 --> 03:01:13,760
Speaker 17: I'm saying, gentlemen, that they think that Tom is still

4052
03:01:13,840 --> 03:01:16,400
Speaker 17: here and we'll just draft some good guy that we

4053
03:01:16,480 --> 03:01:17,760
Speaker 17: can just coast and then.

4054
03:01:18,000 --> 03:01:19,280
Speaker 7: What what are you basing that on?

4055
03:01:19,520 --> 03:01:20,520
Speaker 17: But work with Tom?

4056
03:01:20,959 --> 03:01:21,920
Speaker 18: He's not here anymore.

4057
03:01:22,040 --> 03:01:23,200
Speaker 7: But what are you basing that on?

4058
03:01:23,320 --> 03:01:23,360
Speaker 1: That?

4059
03:01:23,520 --> 03:01:26,520
Speaker 7: That's their mentality. They're trying not to draft playmakers because

4060
03:01:26,560 --> 03:01:28,320
Speaker 7: they still think Tom is I think, why are you

4061
03:01:28,440 --> 03:01:30,360
Speaker 7: basing your what are you basing your opinion on that?

4062
03:01:30,920 --> 03:01:33,280
Speaker 17: Paul, I'm gonna ask you my question, why was the

4063
03:01:33,440 --> 03:01:39,920
Speaker 17: last game breaking, young explosive game breaker in the last

4064
03:01:40,080 --> 03:01:42,760
Speaker 17: fifteen years that this organization is drafted well?

4065
03:01:42,800 --> 03:01:44,400
Speaker 2: They they made bad picks.

4066
03:01:44,640 --> 03:01:47,280
Speaker 7: Tom, They've made bad picks, but they've tried, Like, you

4067
03:01:47,320 --> 03:01:49,320
Speaker 7: don't think that they thought they were drafting a guy

4068
03:01:49,400 --> 03:01:52,320
Speaker 7: like that with Taekwon Thornton. You don't think that was

4069
03:01:52,360 --> 03:01:54,840
Speaker 7: the idea. This is like the fastest guy in the draft.

4070
03:01:54,879 --> 03:01:56,120
Speaker 7: He's a game breaker. They've just.

4071
03:01:59,400 --> 03:02:03,240
Speaker 2: I'm sorry, Oh, I'm always gonna think I did call back,

4072
03:02:03,320 --> 03:02:03,879
Speaker 2: call back guys.

4073
03:02:03,920 --> 03:02:05,640
Speaker 7: Those are my kind of argue, called back guys.

4074
03:02:06,240 --> 03:02:08,240
Speaker 6: I just don't know who he's yelling at, Like, I like,

4075
03:02:08,360 --> 03:02:11,680
Speaker 6: are any of us saying you're sitting here saying they

4076
03:02:11,840 --> 03:02:13,760
Speaker 6: need better players? Yeah?

4077
03:02:13,840 --> 03:02:15,160
Speaker 7: I don't know, Like that's why.

4078
03:02:15,200 --> 03:02:16,560
Speaker 2: And I think they agree with that too.

4079
03:02:16,640 --> 03:02:19,440
Speaker 7: By the way, are we like, when was the last

4080
03:02:19,440 --> 03:02:22,360
Speaker 7: time they drafted a game breaking player? I don't know.

4081
03:02:22,760 --> 03:02:24,880
Speaker 7: But do you don't think that they've tried to do that.

4082
03:02:25,400 --> 03:02:27,440
Speaker 7: Do you think that they drafted Taekwon Thornton with the

4083
03:02:27,480 --> 03:02:29,400
Speaker 7: idea that we don't need a good player because we

4084
03:02:29,440 --> 03:02:30,040
Speaker 7: have Tom Brady.

4085
03:02:30,200 --> 03:02:32,200
Speaker 2: The problem with his argument is he went back to

4086
03:02:32,280 --> 03:02:35,000
Speaker 2: Tom Brady, and during the Brady years, you couldn't make

4087
03:02:35,080 --> 03:02:37,280
Speaker 2: the case that they didn't have to They didn't feel

4088
03:02:37,280 --> 03:02:39,680
Speaker 2: like they had to spend the money on these top

4089
03:02:39,800 --> 03:02:42,880
Speaker 2: guys because we had Brady, and Brady by the way,

4090
03:02:43,560 --> 03:02:46,640
Speaker 2: caught onto that or you know, that's the narrative that

4091
03:02:47,000 --> 03:02:49,640
Speaker 2: Brady was getting a little impatient with that as well.

4092
03:02:49,959 --> 03:02:53,600
Speaker 2: But since Brady, I think they realized that we can't

4093
03:02:53,640 --> 03:02:56,400
Speaker 2: depend on our quarterback anymore. You know, we've got to

4094
03:02:57,080 --> 03:02:59,800
Speaker 2: surround whoever it is with talent. I think they they

4095
03:03:00,840 --> 03:03:01,720
Speaker 2: they're missing.

4096
03:03:01,600 --> 03:03:04,040
Speaker 7: They've missed too often. I don't think it's a mentality.

4097
03:03:04,120 --> 03:03:05,720
Speaker 7: I think it's a misavaluable.

4098
03:03:05,720 --> 03:03:05,840
Speaker 13: Now.

4099
03:03:06,280 --> 03:03:07,920
Speaker 6: The one thing that I would say for the caller

4100
03:03:07,959 --> 03:03:10,000
Speaker 6: who I don't know who he's yelling at, because we

4101
03:03:10,080 --> 03:03:12,880
Speaker 6: all want them to draft game breakers and playmakers and

4102
03:03:13,200 --> 03:03:16,000
Speaker 6: all those types of things. But I think what he

4103
03:03:16,120 --> 03:03:19,200
Speaker 6: was trying to say was like Jalen Polk, Jalen Polk

4104
03:03:19,360 --> 03:03:22,359
Speaker 6: was considered they missed, but he wasn't considered.

4105
03:03:22,040 --> 03:03:23,879
Speaker 7: A game breaker. But he wasn't a game breaker.

4106
03:03:24,120 --> 03:03:26,760
Speaker 6: He was considered a high floor player that was going

4107
03:03:26,840 --> 03:03:29,320
Speaker 6: to be a nice plug and play number killer receiver.

4108
03:03:29,520 --> 03:03:33,000
Speaker 6: Argument right, Like, That's what I think he's trying to

4109
03:03:33,040 --> 03:03:35,039
Speaker 6: say is that they need to take on some risk

4110
03:03:35,160 --> 03:03:37,800
Speaker 6: on somebody that has that game breaking upside now to

4111
03:03:37,920 --> 03:03:41,360
Speaker 6: Paul's point, they did with Taekwon and it failed miserably,

4112
03:03:41,520 --> 03:03:42,160
Speaker 6: So right.

4113
03:03:42,120 --> 03:03:44,080
Speaker 7: The argument that he should have come back with is

4114
03:03:44,400 --> 03:03:47,480
Speaker 7: why not take a shot on Pickens or even Alec

4115
03:03:47,560 --> 03:03:50,520
Speaker 7: Pierce or who is a game breaking kind of player?

4116
03:03:50,560 --> 03:03:52,640
Speaker 7: Now he's not a volume guy like Pickens is much

4117
03:03:52,680 --> 03:03:55,400
Speaker 7: more productive than Alec Pierce, but Alec Pierce is a

4118
03:03:55,440 --> 03:03:56,000
Speaker 7: home run hitter.

4119
03:03:56,120 --> 03:03:58,160
Speaker 2: Or do what you had to do to get Lad McConkie,

4120
03:03:58,600 --> 03:03:58,840
Speaker 2: Well that.

4121
03:03:58,920 --> 03:04:00,440
Speaker 7: Was last year. You have to do anything that you

4122
03:04:00,480 --> 03:04:02,600
Speaker 7: had to do. All you had to do was pick right, right, right?

4123
03:04:02,720 --> 03:04:04,960
Speaker 6: But I think that you know the caller's point. The

4124
03:04:05,360 --> 03:04:07,640
Speaker 6: guy in this draft is to make it about this

4125
03:04:07,800 --> 03:04:09,720
Speaker 6: draft and not ten years ago with Tom Brady.

4126
03:04:09,760 --> 03:04:11,680
Speaker 7: But I would even make an argument that Lat McConkie

4127
03:04:11,720 --> 03:04:13,840
Speaker 7: is not what he's He's not a game breaker, but

4128
03:04:13,959 --> 03:04:16,600
Speaker 7: he would have been a much better pick than Jalen pol.

4129
03:04:16,800 --> 03:04:19,360
Speaker 6: The pick that he wants them to make is Luther Burden, right,

4130
03:04:19,480 --> 03:04:21,960
Speaker 6: like who is well, Matthew, But I think Burden is

4131
03:04:22,000 --> 03:04:24,840
Speaker 6: a true game breaker. But you're taking on a little

4132
03:04:24,840 --> 03:04:27,920
Speaker 6: bit of risk that he's not. He's not Will Campbell, like,

4133
03:04:27,959 --> 03:04:30,920
Speaker 6: he's not a football high football character type of player.

4134
03:04:31,440 --> 03:04:34,240
Speaker 6: So you're taking on that risk. But to the caller's point,

4135
03:04:34,560 --> 03:04:37,040
Speaker 6: like they want to take you know, he wants them

4136
03:04:37,080 --> 03:04:39,320
Speaker 6: to take risks like that on guys that have.

4137
03:04:39,440 --> 03:04:42,800
Speaker 7: That the passion as you know, you guys know why

4138
03:04:42,840 --> 03:04:44,200
Speaker 7: you can hung up.

4139
03:04:45,640 --> 03:04:47,640
Speaker 5: I just liked mean to hang up.

4140
03:04:47,959 --> 03:04:49,760
Speaker 6: Yeah, I just would say, well, Mike, you know that

4141
03:04:49,840 --> 03:04:50,640
Speaker 6: better than anybody.

4142
03:04:50,800 --> 03:04:53,720
Speaker 7: Like we have a news flash to Bill in everybody

4143
03:04:53,840 --> 03:04:56,960
Speaker 7: that Tom Brady's not hit him. Like Bill's coach in

4144
03:04:57,000 --> 03:04:59,160
Speaker 7: North Carolina. He's not here either.

4145
03:04:59,520 --> 03:05:02,440
Speaker 6: Speaking of North Carolina, Marion Hampton just went to the

4146
03:05:02,560 --> 03:05:06,320
Speaker 6: Chargers at twenty two, which that's an interesting pick for them,

4147
03:05:06,520 --> 03:05:10,760
Speaker 6: very Jim harbup. Oh yeah, So we have Jehade Baron

4148
03:05:11,080 --> 03:05:15,199
Speaker 6: to Texas from Texas to Denver, the Broncos at twenty,

4149
03:05:15,600 --> 03:05:20,320
Speaker 6: Derek Harmon Pittsburgh from Oregon, and now a Marion Hampton

4150
03:05:20,400 --> 03:05:24,560
Speaker 6: at twenty two to the Los Angeles Chargers. Still no shador.

4151
03:05:25,360 --> 03:05:28,160
Speaker 6: The Giants, I guess, are purportedly trying to trade back

4152
03:05:28,200 --> 03:05:30,800
Speaker 6: in though still into the first round to take a quarterback.

4153
03:05:30,920 --> 03:05:33,000
Speaker 2: All right, Tim and California, you got big shoes to

4154
03:05:33,040 --> 03:05:36,959
Speaker 2: fill after that last call. What's up, Tim? Yeah?

4155
03:05:37,120 --> 03:05:39,840
Speaker 28: With the guy for Port Lauderdale related to the person

4156
03:05:39,920 --> 03:05:41,480
Speaker 28: that Alex interviewed, Aah.

4157
03:05:42,840 --> 03:05:46,240
Speaker 2: I think actually it was more coherent, but that's okay.

4158
03:05:47,360 --> 03:05:49,600
Speaker 28: Anyway, Well, hey, thank you all for what you've been doing.

4159
03:05:50,360 --> 03:05:53,040
Speaker 28: Really enjoyed everything leading up to the draft. I think

4160
03:05:53,280 --> 03:05:58,360
Speaker 28: Will Campbell's great each fan. My question is should we

4161
03:05:58,480 --> 03:06:01,800
Speaker 28: trade back in to try to pick up Matthew Golden

4162
03:06:01,920 --> 03:06:02,600
Speaker 28: out of Texas?

4163
03:06:03,560 --> 03:06:06,000
Speaker 2: Is that worth it or Well, we're at twenty three now.

4164
03:06:06,120 --> 03:06:08,320
Speaker 2: I think it's a little early, but like we were

4165
03:06:08,360 --> 03:06:10,920
Speaker 2: talking about, if he's around thirty, I'm tempted.

4166
03:06:11,480 --> 03:06:13,840
Speaker 6: Yeah, we're getting too that fringe now that if you

4167
03:06:14,320 --> 03:06:17,360
Speaker 6: were willing to throw seventy seven into the trade, the

4168
03:06:17,440 --> 03:06:19,880
Speaker 6: Matthew Judam pick they have in the third round, which

4169
03:06:19,920 --> 03:06:22,760
Speaker 6: is number seventy seven, you could probably start to get

4170
03:06:22,840 --> 03:06:24,680
Speaker 6: up to this point of the draft with that pick.

4171
03:06:24,800 --> 03:06:27,959
Speaker 6: This is about that range. Would they feel that Matthew

4172
03:06:27,959 --> 03:06:30,560
Speaker 6: Golden is worth it is a totally separate conversation, but

4173
03:06:31,600 --> 03:06:34,800
Speaker 6: if they wanted to start to think about trading back in,

4174
03:06:34,959 --> 03:06:37,360
Speaker 6: we're getting there. We're getting into that range where they

4175
03:06:37,400 --> 03:06:39,960
Speaker 6: could consider that. I think the thing with Golden to

4176
03:06:40,080 --> 03:06:43,080
Speaker 6: me is, you know, he didn't really play to a

4177
03:06:43,120 --> 03:06:45,360
Speaker 6: four to two nine on tape. If you asked me,

4178
03:06:46,000 --> 03:06:49,000
Speaker 6: he's much more of like a technician of a route

4179
03:06:49,040 --> 03:06:51,360
Speaker 6: runner in great ball skills. Kind of reminds me a

4180
03:06:51,360 --> 03:06:55,240
Speaker 6: little bit of Stefan Diggs honestly, but just not necessarily

4181
03:06:55,320 --> 03:06:58,520
Speaker 6: the guy that like, you're not drafting a field stretcher,

4182
03:06:58,640 --> 03:07:01,560
Speaker 6: like you're not drafting a true four two nine type

4183
03:07:01,560 --> 03:07:04,760
Speaker 6: of player. But he's a very talented receiver and I

4184
03:07:04,800 --> 03:07:06,560
Speaker 6: would definitely be into it if they did it.

4185
03:07:07,560 --> 03:07:13,320
Speaker 2: Thanks, Tim, appreciate the call. Let's go to Andrew in Portland, Maine.

4186
03:07:13,520 --> 03:07:15,840
Speaker 7: Hey, Andrew, you.

4187
03:07:15,840 --> 03:07:16,240
Speaker 13: Do you hear me?

4188
03:07:16,520 --> 03:07:16,720
Speaker 7: Yep?

4189
03:07:18,160 --> 03:07:19,080
Speaker 14: I thank my call.

4190
03:07:19,400 --> 03:07:22,440
Speaker 37: Uh you guys talking to Will Campbell tomorrow and I

4191
03:07:22,560 --> 03:07:25,360
Speaker 37: Christian boy. Have you guys seen the video of him

4192
03:07:25,440 --> 03:07:26,480
Speaker 37: going alligator hunting?

4193
03:07:27,600 --> 03:07:31,640
Speaker 2: Have we seen the video of deer hunting alligator? Alligator hunting? Okay,

4194
03:07:33,200 --> 03:07:37,360
Speaker 2: have you seen it? I have not, no Rod.

4195
03:07:37,400 --> 03:07:38,840
Speaker 37: You gotta go on your phone as soon as you

4196
03:07:38,920 --> 03:07:40,720
Speaker 37: can and watch this twenty minute video.

4197
03:07:40,800 --> 03:07:41,959
Speaker 43: You can go an alligator hunting.

4198
03:07:42,560 --> 03:07:43,760
Speaker 2: So give us a synopsis.

4199
03:07:44,640 --> 03:07:46,320
Speaker 7: What did you like to pretend that I've seen it?

4200
03:07:47,560 --> 03:07:48,520
Speaker 17: It's the lobster on it.

4201
03:07:48,520 --> 03:07:50,720
Speaker 37: Because there's like a boat and uh, they've got a

4202
03:07:50,800 --> 03:07:53,480
Speaker 37: trap set off with these guys go up there and

4203
03:07:53,480 --> 03:07:56,160
Speaker 37: they're making true and lasting the entire time. The entire

4204
03:07:56,200 --> 03:07:58,320
Speaker 37: time I'm watching it, I'm scared to death of their lives.

4205
03:07:58,760 --> 03:08:04,320
Speaker 37: The basically is pulling up alligators. Their mountains are bound.

4206
03:08:07,160 --> 03:08:08,080
Speaker 2: He's got a bad connection.

4207
03:08:08,280 --> 03:08:09,520
Speaker 7: That's why I'm just so sure.

4208
03:08:09,640 --> 03:08:14,600
Speaker 6: Yeah, he wrestled an alligator. It was it was fine.

4209
03:08:14,840 --> 03:08:16,920
Speaker 6: I don't think you need to go run home and

4210
03:08:17,000 --> 03:08:19,320
Speaker 6: watch it. It was like, it's cool. I hope he

4211
03:08:19,400 --> 03:08:20,160
Speaker 6: never does it again.

4212
03:08:20,480 --> 03:08:25,200
Speaker 2: Like contract When I was a kid, we were on

4213
03:08:25,280 --> 03:08:27,160
Speaker 2: our way to Disney World and we stopped in Saint

4214
03:08:27,200 --> 03:08:30,279
Speaker 2: Augustine at the Alligator Farm. I mean there's like thousands

4215
03:08:30,360 --> 03:08:34,120
Speaker 2: and there's a technique to wrestling these things so you.

4216
03:08:34,120 --> 03:08:34,640
Speaker 5: Don't get bid.

4217
03:08:34,800 --> 03:08:37,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, like and how to approach them and all that,

4218
03:08:37,680 --> 03:08:39,720
Speaker 2: and the way their jaws work and everything like that.

4219
03:08:39,879 --> 03:08:42,960
Speaker 2: So if you know what you're doing, obviously it's still dangerous.

4220
03:08:43,400 --> 03:08:46,000
Speaker 5: But it's not like stop off with the wife and

4221
03:08:46,040 --> 03:08:47,360
Speaker 5: the kids and like, all right, we're gonna give you

4222
03:08:47,360 --> 03:08:50,480
Speaker 5: a five minute lesson on geeta wrestling. All right, go ahead, hoping, yeah,

4223
03:08:50,520 --> 03:08:50,840
Speaker 5: there you go.

4224
03:08:52,920 --> 03:08:56,160
Speaker 2: So anyway, Jr. It's in Florida. What's up, j R?

4225
03:08:57,240 --> 03:08:57,840
Speaker 7: Who shot you?

4226
03:08:58,520 --> 03:08:59,320
Speaker 16: And what's going on?

4227
03:08:59,480 --> 03:08:59,640
Speaker 18: Guy?

4228
03:08:59,760 --> 03:08:59,880
Speaker 7: Hey?

4229
03:09:02,680 --> 03:09:04,520
Speaker 18: Okay, So I'm gonna be the one to say that

4230
03:09:05,440 --> 03:09:08,360
Speaker 18: I really didn't care for the Campbell pairs for the

4231
03:09:08,440 --> 03:09:13,760
Speaker 18: simple fact that if if it is that he he

4232
03:09:13,920 --> 03:09:16,560
Speaker 18: can't perform there because of his arms or whatever it is,

4233
03:09:16,640 --> 03:09:19,879
Speaker 18: and they gotta they gotta slide him over to tackle guard,

4234
03:09:20,000 --> 03:09:24,240
Speaker 18: that means that he's not performing well this year, and

4235
03:09:24,400 --> 03:09:28,080
Speaker 18: that's not good for Drake May number one. Number two. Also,

4236
03:09:28,200 --> 03:09:30,440
Speaker 18: when the guy that was just going crazy about the

4237
03:09:30,520 --> 03:09:33,520
Speaker 18: star players or the game breaker players whatever he was saying,

4238
03:09:34,200 --> 03:09:36,080
Speaker 18: I kind of got his point. And you guys have

4239
03:09:36,160 --> 03:09:38,560
Speaker 18: brought up you know, you don't think that's what they

4240
03:09:38,600 --> 03:09:42,320
Speaker 18: did with Taekwon Thornton. Tae Kwon Thornton at that point,

4241
03:09:43,000 --> 03:09:44,960
Speaker 18: he was a reach, you know. I know he had

4242
03:09:45,000 --> 03:09:48,040
Speaker 18: the fast forty time and all that, but he was

4243
03:09:48,080 --> 03:09:50,879
Speaker 18: a reach. He wasn't he wasn't doing anything special at.

4244
03:09:50,800 --> 03:09:54,080
Speaker 7: Baylor right where he was a reach as a game breaker. Yep,

4245
03:09:54,280 --> 03:09:57,320
Speaker 7: they reached for a playmaking player and it didn't work.

4246
03:09:59,600 --> 03:10:03,680
Speaker 18: Yeah, but Pickings went right after that and he's the better.

4247
03:10:03,560 --> 03:10:08,119
Speaker 7: Pick, right, Which is my point, Jar that they've misevaluated,

4248
03:10:08,640 --> 03:10:11,640
Speaker 7: they haven't necessarily had a bad mentality. They're they're just

4249
03:10:11,720 --> 03:10:12,800
Speaker 7: not picking the right guys.

4250
03:10:12,920 --> 03:10:16,400
Speaker 2: Yeah. So, I guess our point against Fort Lauderdale was,

4251
03:10:16,600 --> 03:10:19,080
Speaker 2: it's not like they disagree with you, mister fort Latter,

4252
03:10:19,240 --> 03:10:21,760
Speaker 2: they agreed they need these guys, they're just missing.

4253
03:10:22,000 --> 03:10:24,400
Speaker 7: I'm with h JR. Yeah, I'm with you JR. I

4254
03:10:24,480 --> 03:10:27,120
Speaker 7: think that they do. They need these players badly.

4255
03:10:28,520 --> 03:10:32,200
Speaker 17: Their failure to evaluate talent, yeah, I agree, it's really

4256
03:10:32,280 --> 03:10:32,959
Speaker 17: killed them at.

4257
03:10:32,879 --> 03:10:36,360
Speaker 18: Those at those stark positions, you know, the positions where

4258
03:10:36,400 --> 03:10:41,119
Speaker 18: we needed them to hit Me. Personally, okay, I feel

4259
03:10:41,160 --> 03:10:45,320
Speaker 18: like the Campbell pick is a gamble. Okay, Personally, I

4260
03:10:45,400 --> 03:10:47,080
Speaker 18: think they should have took gend if they were going

4261
03:10:47,160 --> 03:10:48,920
Speaker 18: to stick and pick it for I would have loved

4262
03:10:48,959 --> 03:10:51,400
Speaker 18: for them to trade back. If they couldn't have traded back,

4263
03:10:52,120 --> 03:10:53,960
Speaker 18: I think they should have stuck the pick and took

4264
03:10:54,040 --> 03:10:56,680
Speaker 18: Genc because he's going to be able to bail out.

4265
03:10:57,000 --> 03:10:58,840
Speaker 18: He's going to be able to bail out May in

4266
03:10:58,959 --> 03:11:01,400
Speaker 18: certain you know and so areas and take some sort

4267
03:11:01,440 --> 03:11:02,160
Speaker 18: of load off him.

4268
03:11:02,440 --> 03:11:03,280
Speaker 7: I don't I don't hate it.

4269
03:11:03,400 --> 03:11:07,160
Speaker 18: A guy like Ersery or or or Connorley even if

4270
03:11:07,160 --> 03:11:08,840
Speaker 18: you've got to move up a little bit, maybe if

4271
03:11:08,879 --> 03:11:11,680
Speaker 18: Simmons is still sitting there, you still get you know,

4272
03:11:11,760 --> 03:11:15,760
Speaker 18: one of those guys. I just I think it's too

4273
03:11:15,879 --> 03:11:18,680
Speaker 18: much of a of a risk with Campbell, with the

4274
03:11:18,760 --> 03:11:21,360
Speaker 18: state that this team is in that if he does

4275
03:11:21,440 --> 03:11:23,880
Speaker 18: start getting burned at left packle, we're in big trouble

4276
03:11:23,879 --> 03:11:25,720
Speaker 18: because bigs A loan doesn't move the needle.

4277
03:11:26,600 --> 03:11:29,120
Speaker 7: Yeah, I don't hate you, don't hate your theory. I

4278
03:11:29,160 --> 03:11:31,080
Speaker 7: mean I like the Campbell pick, but you know that's

4279
03:11:31,120 --> 03:11:33,400
Speaker 7: the mic. That's the mic to show theory. You know,

4280
03:11:33,480 --> 03:11:37,520
Speaker 7: get the playmaker again, to go back to you know

4281
03:11:37,640 --> 03:11:40,440
Speaker 7: j r. And was the Fort Lauder deal guy.

4282
03:11:41,320 --> 03:11:44,200
Speaker 6: Which is okay, we're calling him Brady's not here.

4283
03:11:45,959 --> 03:11:48,640
Speaker 7: That's a playmaker. Genty is a playmaker and he's a

4284
03:11:48,720 --> 03:11:50,280
Speaker 7: game breaking type guy. And he would be.

4285
03:11:52,560 --> 03:11:54,879
Speaker 2: To hear from if you if they had picked Genty,

4286
03:11:54,959 --> 03:11:57,440
Speaker 2: would he be like, Okay, So that's what I'm talking about.

4287
03:11:57,440 --> 03:12:00,400
Speaker 6: It's a it's a The draft is always about like

4288
03:12:00,560 --> 03:12:02,400
Speaker 6: coin flips of like you could have done this, but

4289
03:12:02,520 --> 03:12:05,199
Speaker 6: you did that instead. That's the coin flip for this draft.

4290
03:12:05,320 --> 03:12:07,000
Speaker 6: You could have taken Genty and traded back.

4291
03:12:06,959 --> 03:12:09,960
Speaker 7: Up we're twenty three and all of those tackles that,

4292
03:12:10,120 --> 03:12:14,000
Speaker 7: like the secondary tackles are still available. So you probably

4293
03:12:14,160 --> 03:12:19,520
Speaker 7: could trade seventy seven. Yeah, you know, you fit to

4294
03:12:19,640 --> 03:12:22,359
Speaker 7: go from thirty eight to twenty five. You could probably

4295
03:12:22,440 --> 03:12:23,360
Speaker 7: trade seventy seven.

4296
03:12:23,840 --> 03:12:26,040
Speaker 6: Maybe Matt get Helden just went to the Packers.

4297
03:12:26,080 --> 03:12:28,680
Speaker 7: Maybe you'd have to throw something else in, but you

4298
03:12:28,760 --> 03:12:31,640
Speaker 7: could have gotten in a position to take Connorly or

4299
03:12:31,920 --> 03:12:36,039
Speaker 7: Simmons h or you know. You know, and because I'm

4300
03:12:36,080 --> 03:12:38,360
Speaker 7: going to guess those guys are going to come soon, yep.

4301
03:12:38,480 --> 03:12:40,720
Speaker 7: You know Minnesota as a team that they had some

4302
03:12:40,840 --> 03:12:43,160
Speaker 7: tackle issues last year. They had to bring in the

4303
03:12:43,240 --> 03:12:46,720
Speaker 7: guy that everybody wanted to just Cam Robinson. So maybe

4304
03:12:46,760 --> 03:12:48,400
Speaker 7: they're going to be looking to do something there that

4305
03:12:48,560 --> 03:12:51,960
Speaker 7: you know, with Deriso coming back off injury, go to

4306
03:12:52,040 --> 03:12:52,600
Speaker 7: green Bay.

4307
03:12:53,800 --> 03:12:56,199
Speaker 5: Stacking guy, green Bay. I mean suddenly green.

4308
03:12:56,080 --> 03:12:59,039
Speaker 7: Bay taking receivers in the first round. My mind's blown.

4309
03:12:59,160 --> 03:13:02,240
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's his face, Christian Watson probably out most of

4310
03:13:02,240 --> 03:13:07,120
Speaker 5: the yearnet right, but they continue each year. I mean,

4311
03:13:07,240 --> 03:13:09,440
Speaker 5: I I just I respect the Packers with the way

4312
03:13:09,480 --> 03:13:12,560
Speaker 5: that they continue to always try to stack these receivers

4313
03:13:12,640 --> 03:13:16,199
Speaker 5: the tight ends. They you know, they don't they never rest.

4314
03:13:16,080 --> 03:13:18,440
Speaker 7: On that, and I wonder if they've maybe a little

4315
03:13:18,480 --> 03:13:20,800
Speaker 7: bit leary of which one was the one that gave

4316
03:13:20,879 --> 03:13:24,200
Speaker 7: him some problems with you know, he can't end up

4317
03:13:24,240 --> 03:13:26,760
Speaker 7: coming back, but they had some issues with him. Maybe

4318
03:13:26,800 --> 03:13:28,039
Speaker 7: they'll look to maybe they look to move.

4319
03:13:28,080 --> 03:13:29,440
Speaker 5: But it's like but it's like every year, it's like

4320
03:13:29,600 --> 03:13:34,640
Speaker 5: Dobbs Jaden Reeve Christians, and they're always taking Day one,

4321
03:13:34,720 --> 03:13:35,560
Speaker 5: Day two receivers.

4322
03:13:35,640 --> 03:13:38,600
Speaker 7: Watson. I think Mike is right. I think Watson's seasons

4323
03:13:38,640 --> 03:13:39,480
Speaker 7: in Jeopardy.

4324
03:13:40,360 --> 03:13:42,760
Speaker 2: We've had some good calls. Let's see if we can

4325
03:13:42,879 --> 03:13:47,160
Speaker 2: keep up. The had some really excellent Tim's in Seattle.

4326
03:13:47,320 --> 03:13:47,680
Speaker 7: What's up?

4327
03:13:47,720 --> 03:13:47,920
Speaker 2: Tim?

4328
03:13:48,000 --> 03:13:48,760
Speaker 5: It was a duncan.

4329
03:13:50,200 --> 03:13:51,200
Speaker 7: Yeah, being challenged.

4330
03:13:52,360 --> 03:13:52,800
Speaker 14: What's going on?

4331
03:13:52,920 --> 03:13:53,120
Speaker 36: Guys?

4332
03:13:53,360 --> 03:13:55,480
Speaker 17: Hey, I was thinking.

4333
03:13:56,800 --> 03:14:02,760
Speaker 44: Maybe trading up into getting a second second round pick

4334
03:14:02,840 --> 03:14:06,160
Speaker 44: and picking up a defensive end, So maybe getting a

4335
03:14:06,240 --> 03:14:09,880
Speaker 44: wide receiver at thirty eight or getting a high end

4336
03:14:09,920 --> 03:14:11,800
Speaker 44: defensive end here in the second round.

4337
03:14:12,040 --> 03:14:14,279
Speaker 39: Okay, still seeing.

4338
03:14:14,080 --> 03:14:15,920
Speaker 14: Some guys on the board here that I'm interested in.

4339
03:14:17,560 --> 03:14:18,320
Speaker 14: What do you guys think?

4340
03:14:19,280 --> 03:14:19,480
Speaker 7: Sure?

4341
03:14:19,520 --> 03:14:21,640
Speaker 5: I agree, I think those are the two positions the

4342
03:14:21,720 --> 03:14:22,440
Speaker 5: most interest to me.

4343
03:14:22,480 --> 03:14:24,160
Speaker 7: If they they I know that's for you.

4344
03:14:24,959 --> 03:14:26,280
Speaker 5: Edgen receiver edgen receiver.

4345
03:14:26,480 --> 03:14:27,840
Speaker 2: I mean those are I knew.

4346
03:14:28,040 --> 03:14:29,760
Speaker 7: I knew one of my expositions would be edge.

4347
03:14:29,800 --> 03:14:31,680
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, and maybe maybe dark Horse a little

4348
03:14:31,680 --> 03:14:33,600
Speaker 5: bit with the running backs kicker, I think those are

4349
03:14:33,640 --> 03:14:37,200
Speaker 5: coming a little later. Kick, but those are the spots

4350
03:14:37,240 --> 03:14:39,520
Speaker 5: in need that that's still interest me the most.

4351
03:14:39,600 --> 03:14:42,720
Speaker 2: So I agree. So it sounds like we're best player available.

4352
03:14:42,800 --> 03:14:44,840
Speaker 2: Let's forget it, We're just going for a need right now,

4353
03:14:45,000 --> 03:14:45,400
Speaker 2: Is that right?

4354
03:14:45,720 --> 03:14:47,640
Speaker 7: Well, I think that you're marrying the two.

4355
03:14:48,120 --> 03:14:50,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was a blend.

4356
03:14:50,480 --> 03:14:54,480
Speaker 7: That means. I mean, on Brugle's broward, Mike Green is ten.

4357
03:14:54,600 --> 03:14:54,720
Speaker 1: Now.

4358
03:14:54,800 --> 03:14:57,520
Speaker 7: I know there's some off field more I've never bet

4359
03:14:58,280 --> 03:15:00,959
Speaker 7: I'm going to guess, but I'm gonna guess is legit

4360
03:15:01,080 --> 03:15:04,000
Speaker 7: since he's ten on the Beast's list and we're in

4361
03:15:04,080 --> 03:15:06,200
Speaker 7: the mid twenties. Yeah, and he hasn't gone yet, so

4362
03:15:06,240 --> 03:15:08,680
Speaker 7: I'm going to guess that some of the teams, you know,

4363
03:15:08,920 --> 03:15:10,520
Speaker 7: either have him off the board or I have some

4364
03:15:10,720 --> 03:15:11,520
Speaker 7: serious red flag.

4365
03:15:11,600 --> 03:15:13,600
Speaker 6: Yeah, like the top two edges right now. You know,

4366
03:15:13,720 --> 03:15:17,279
Speaker 6: James Peers from Tennessee is not quite the same category

4367
03:15:17,520 --> 03:15:20,400
Speaker 6: of concerns as Mike Green, but has his own kind

4368
03:15:20,480 --> 03:15:24,240
Speaker 6: of like character red flags, motivation stuff and things like that.

4369
03:15:24,600 --> 03:15:27,279
Speaker 7: Is Ezraka a guy that you'd like here, the envelope

4370
03:15:27,320 --> 03:15:27,960
Speaker 7: guy Freddyman?

4371
03:15:28,160 --> 03:15:31,280
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, I would definitely love Azraku. You know, I

4372
03:15:31,360 --> 03:15:36,560
Speaker 6: think that, you know, Scorton's still there, obviously, Princely is

4373
03:15:36,600 --> 03:15:39,240
Speaker 6: still there from Ole miss I just.

4374
03:15:40,560 --> 03:15:42,560
Speaker 7: I think you can beat Matthew.

4375
03:15:43,400 --> 03:15:45,560
Speaker 6: I like that. I think you can be patient at

4376
03:15:45,600 --> 03:15:49,760
Speaker 6: that position, like I wouldn't. I wouldn't jump at EDG Dresser.

4377
03:15:49,800 --> 03:15:52,600
Speaker 6: I just think there's too much talent on the board

4378
03:15:53,000 --> 03:15:56,200
Speaker 6: at that spot, so I'd be patient there. Like I

4379
03:15:56,760 --> 03:15:58,320
Speaker 6: think you could take one at thirty eight, but I

4380
03:15:58,360 --> 03:15:59,920
Speaker 6: don't think you need to trade up from thirty eight.

4381
03:16:00,040 --> 03:16:03,600
Speaker 6: You know there'll be somebody there that can contribute, that'll

4382
03:16:03,640 --> 03:16:05,640
Speaker 6: be a good player for them. At thirty eight.

4383
03:16:05,720 --> 03:16:07,520
Speaker 2: Well, I think it's a good time to take a break.

4384
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4392
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Speaker 7: The New England Patriots.

4393
03:16:40,040 --> 03:16:41,960
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4394
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4426
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4432
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Speaker 45: Welcome to Red Hot Deal Days from Verizon, where you

4433
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4439
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4440
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4441
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4446
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4447
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4452
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4453
03:19:44,320 --> 03:19:47,080
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4454
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4455
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4456
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4457
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4458
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4459
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4460
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4461
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4462
03:20:11,680 --> 03:20:12,959
Speaker 45: don't now And.

4463
03:20:13,080 --> 03:20:14,119
Speaker 22: Let's well gamble.

4464
03:20:14,440 --> 03:20:20,640
Speaker 27: There's lighting people on their back, will all on garanou

4465
03:20:20,840 --> 03:20:21,320
Speaker 27: one thing?

4466
03:20:22,560 --> 03:20:23,000
Speaker 14: Have you know?

4467
03:20:23,240 --> 03:20:23,840
Speaker 5: One left?

4468
03:20:24,440 --> 03:20:27,199
Speaker 2: Like to buy my phone?

4469
03:20:27,360 --> 03:20:28,200
Speaker 27: Football code?

4470
03:20:28,320 --> 03:20:28,440
Speaker 25: Man?

4471
03:20:29,400 --> 03:20:36,040
Speaker 2: It's do you how to pick them out? Are you

4472
03:20:36,160 --> 03:20:37,000
Speaker 2: driving home today?

4473
03:20:37,480 --> 03:20:37,520
Speaker 40: No?

4474
03:20:39,120 --> 03:20:41,400
Speaker 2: Not alexy.

4475
03:20:45,400 --> 03:20:46,000
Speaker 5: To hurt someone.

4476
03:20:47,040 --> 03:20:48,119
Speaker 6: Here come the Giants.

4477
03:20:49,000 --> 03:20:58,400
Speaker 7: Okay, wow, all right, go yeah, Viking selection is in.

4478
03:20:59,200 --> 03:21:03,320
Speaker 2: Yep, Viking took Donovan Jackson guard Ohio State.

4479
03:21:03,520 --> 03:21:06,959
Speaker 6: It's a good pick a he's a good player. It's

4480
03:21:06,959 --> 03:21:07,560
Speaker 6: a little high.

4481
03:21:07,640 --> 03:21:09,560
Speaker 2: But you say the Giants are trading up.

4482
03:21:09,800 --> 03:21:10,840
Speaker 6: The Giants are on the clock.

4483
03:21:11,600 --> 03:21:15,280
Speaker 2: Okay, so they're taking the Texans pick correct, And.

4484
03:21:15,959 --> 03:21:21,119
Speaker 7: I'll tell you Cassio learned that the the Belichick school.

4485
03:21:21,320 --> 03:21:22,760
Speaker 7: He loves to trade.

4486
03:21:22,879 --> 03:21:26,320
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, just f y. Drake May putting out a

4487
03:21:26,320 --> 03:21:30,680
Speaker 5: tweet with Will Campbell's reaction to being drafted when he

4488
03:21:30,680 --> 03:21:33,600
Speaker 5: got teared up, saying love this guy already LFG. So

4489
03:21:33,800 --> 03:21:36,360
Speaker 5: Drake put it out there that emotional moment for Will

4490
03:21:36,400 --> 03:21:38,480
Speaker 5: Campbell too. So I think he moved all of us.

4491
03:21:38,840 --> 03:21:40,520
Speaker 5: It's pretty cool. Maybe we can make him cry.

4492
03:21:40,560 --> 03:21:40,720
Speaker 14: Tom.

4493
03:21:40,879 --> 03:21:42,600
Speaker 2: I think, well, I think you know we have we

4494
03:21:42,680 --> 03:21:45,320
Speaker 2: have we often have the call to the hall. I

4495
03:21:45,400 --> 03:21:46,720
Speaker 2: think now we have the call to the.

4496
03:21:46,760 --> 03:21:47,840
Speaker 5: Draw, call to the draw.

4497
03:21:48,959 --> 03:21:51,000
Speaker 6: So the question is there the Giants trading up for

4498
03:21:51,160 --> 03:21:53,440
Speaker 6: Jackson Dart or Sanders.

4499
03:21:52,959 --> 03:21:55,040
Speaker 5: That the Dart would That would be a severe blow

4500
03:21:55,120 --> 03:21:56,800
Speaker 5: to Shard because there's.

4501
03:21:56,600 --> 03:21:59,560
Speaker 6: Certainly some buzz that they like Jackson Dart more than

4502
03:21:59,600 --> 03:21:59,880
Speaker 6: should do.

4503
03:22:00,280 --> 03:22:02,320
Speaker 7: So I'm going to officially feel bad if this is

4504
03:22:02,360 --> 03:22:03,160
Speaker 7: for Jackson Dart.

4505
03:22:04,520 --> 03:22:06,200
Speaker 2: You don't have feel bad for Dion.

4506
03:22:07,000 --> 03:22:10,520
Speaker 7: Not for Dion, don't worry about it.

4507
03:22:10,920 --> 03:22:15,160
Speaker 2: I'm surprised that Dion hasn't gone to social media by

4508
03:22:15,240 --> 03:22:15,720
Speaker 2: now right.

4509
03:22:16,160 --> 03:22:16,360
Speaker 1: I know.

4510
03:22:17,040 --> 03:22:20,240
Speaker 6: So the trade, which I think is important if the

4511
03:22:20,280 --> 03:22:21,760
Speaker 6: Patriots are going to try to get up here in

4512
03:22:21,840 --> 03:22:24,760
Speaker 6: the first round, back into the first round. The Giants

4513
03:22:25,840 --> 03:22:29,560
Speaker 6: sent thirty four, ninety nine and a twenty twenty six

4514
03:22:29,760 --> 03:22:32,920
Speaker 6: third round pick to come up from thirty four to

4515
03:22:33,080 --> 03:22:37,480
Speaker 6: twenty five, sonety nine and seventy.

4516
03:22:37,200 --> 03:22:40,360
Speaker 7: Seven was gonna well, they didn't have, They didn't have

4517
03:22:40,520 --> 03:22:41,200
Speaker 7: seventy seven.

4518
03:22:41,400 --> 03:22:45,000
Speaker 6: Still could do it, Still could do it, okay.

4519
03:22:45,320 --> 03:22:47,800
Speaker 7: Because I thought seventy seven would get you to twenty five,

4520
03:22:47,920 --> 03:22:51,400
Speaker 7: but clearly they they needed ninety nine and a third

4521
03:22:51,480 --> 03:22:53,640
Speaker 7: round of next year. That's more than just seventy seven.

4522
03:22:53,760 --> 03:22:56,440
Speaker 6: Well, it's twenty two pick difference, right between seventy seven

4523
03:22:56,480 --> 03:22:57,080
Speaker 6: and ninety nine.

4524
03:22:57,160 --> 03:22:59,000
Speaker 7: No, no, no, but they're going from thirty four to

4525
03:22:59,120 --> 03:23:01,080
Speaker 7: twenty five. We would have going from thirty eight to

4526
03:23:01,160 --> 03:23:03,959
Speaker 7: twenty five. Sure, I thought seventy seven would get that done. Yeah,

4527
03:23:04,000 --> 03:23:06,720
Speaker 7: you probably would have had to throw a future third

4528
03:23:06,800 --> 03:23:07,959
Speaker 7: rounder or something in there.

4529
03:23:07,959 --> 03:23:11,800
Speaker 6: Maybe one of six or one of the fifth higher

4530
03:23:11,840 --> 03:23:12,440
Speaker 6: fifth round pick.

4531
03:23:13,320 --> 03:23:13,440
Speaker 46: Uh.

4532
03:23:13,800 --> 03:23:17,080
Speaker 2: Back to the phones we go, and it's Jonah.

4533
03:23:17,400 --> 03:23:19,400
Speaker 7: Buffalo trade chat is not always full proof.

4534
03:23:19,480 --> 03:23:20,199
Speaker 2: What's up, Jonah?

4535
03:23:21,879 --> 03:23:22,119
Speaker 28: Yeah?

4536
03:23:22,560 --> 03:23:23,160
Speaker 18: Howother going?

4537
03:23:23,280 --> 03:23:23,520
Speaker 7: Guys?

4538
03:23:23,720 --> 03:23:29,640
Speaker 38: Okay, So I'm a big fan of Evan and I

4539
03:23:29,879 --> 03:23:31,840
Speaker 38: really want Noel.

4540
03:23:33,200 --> 03:23:36,960
Speaker 7: Same really the second round Jalen Nolan? Is that what

4541
03:23:37,040 --> 03:23:37,360
Speaker 7: you're saying?

4542
03:23:38,440 --> 03:23:40,400
Speaker 16: And Josh McDaniel's offense.

4543
03:23:41,080 --> 03:23:43,800
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, Sam, Yeah, and I think he's a great fit.

4544
03:23:44,400 --> 03:23:46,680
Speaker 7: I think that, you know, we're really not changing the offense.

4545
03:23:47,520 --> 03:23:49,160
Speaker 5: Well, no it guys.

4546
03:23:49,280 --> 03:23:49,960
Speaker 7: You guys are telling me.

4547
03:23:50,680 --> 03:23:53,120
Speaker 6: I don't think it's fair. I don't think it's fair

4548
03:23:53,200 --> 03:23:55,880
Speaker 6: to call call He's not Julian Edelman or Wes Welker.

4549
03:23:56,520 --> 03:23:57,840
Speaker 7: He's more of a speed slot.

4550
03:23:57,920 --> 03:23:59,560
Speaker 6: Yeah, speed slot, Tyler Lockett.

4551
03:24:00,120 --> 03:24:04,760
Speaker 5: When you say power slot better, that's my power slots.

4552
03:24:05,800 --> 03:24:07,960
Speaker 7: But I agree with Evan. I watched a little of

4553
03:24:08,040 --> 03:24:09,959
Speaker 7: him because you guys been talking about them so much,

4554
03:24:10,040 --> 03:24:12,240
Speaker 7: and he does he gets downfields a little bit. I

4555
03:24:12,760 --> 03:24:15,240
Speaker 7: you know, I dared to compare him to Mount Cook's.

4556
03:24:15,680 --> 03:24:19,440
Speaker 7: Yeah there you go, Yeah, Kirk. Maybe Kirk is not

4557
03:24:19,520 --> 03:24:20,560
Speaker 7: bad din Store.

4558
03:24:20,680 --> 03:24:22,080
Speaker 6: I don't know if he's going to play as much

4559
03:24:22,120 --> 03:24:24,440
Speaker 6: on the outside as Brandon Cooks has in his career.

4560
03:24:24,879 --> 03:24:28,080
Speaker 6: He's definitely more of like a zero slot receiver that's

4561
03:24:28,120 --> 03:24:30,640
Speaker 6: going to move inside and move around the formation. But

4562
03:24:31,120 --> 03:24:32,520
Speaker 6: he's got juice he can get open.

4563
03:24:32,680 --> 03:24:32,800
Speaker 2: You know.

4564
03:24:32,879 --> 03:24:34,800
Speaker 6: I think between him and Kyle Williams are kind of

4565
03:24:34,840 --> 03:24:37,400
Speaker 6: my two Day two crushes right now. If you want

4566
03:24:37,800 --> 03:24:40,960
Speaker 6: game breakers, as the callers have told us, it is

4567
03:24:41,040 --> 03:24:43,600
Speaker 6: what they want, I think if you're not getting burdened,

4568
03:24:43,760 --> 03:24:45,640
Speaker 6: then those two guys are kind of the next two

4569
03:24:45,720 --> 03:24:49,040
Speaker 6: great game breakers on the board. And it's Jackson Dart

4570
03:24:49,080 --> 03:24:50,160
Speaker 6: by the way to the Giants.

4571
03:24:51,760 --> 03:24:54,840
Speaker 5: Wow, I feel bad for him. You're gonna send him

4572
03:24:54,840 --> 03:24:55,680
Speaker 5: some cookies or something?

4573
03:24:56,280 --> 03:24:57,880
Speaker 7: Do you not like? Do not ever? Do that.

4574
03:24:58,080 --> 03:24:59,600
Speaker 5: No, I kind of think it's funny when guys are

4575
03:24:59,680 --> 03:25:00,720
Speaker 5: just like, wow.

4576
03:25:01,160 --> 03:25:03,840
Speaker 7: Ouch, it's not so sneaky anymore.

4577
03:25:04,120 --> 03:25:05,800
Speaker 6: It's kind of funny when guys slide.

4578
03:25:06,120 --> 03:25:08,200
Speaker 5: Yeah, the guys that is just like I mean, the

4579
03:25:08,240 --> 03:25:10,160
Speaker 5: way he was at the podium where he's like you

4580
03:25:10,280 --> 03:25:12,200
Speaker 5: told me that he's going to repeat itself.

4581
03:25:12,240 --> 03:25:14,000
Speaker 7: You know, it's kind of funny. It's kind of funny

4582
03:25:14,000 --> 03:25:16,080
Speaker 7: when someone works their whole life to do one thing

4583
03:25:16,160 --> 03:25:18,920
Speaker 7: and one moment comes and all their dreams get crushed

4584
03:25:18,959 --> 03:25:20,039
Speaker 7: and they have to wait a little longer.

4585
03:25:20,200 --> 03:25:25,120
Speaker 2: But you notice, like early, I just kind of feel

4586
03:25:25,160 --> 03:25:27,600
Speaker 2: bad wherever Sanders is, they had a camera they haven't

4587
03:25:27,600 --> 03:25:30,640
Speaker 2: been going to. I wonder if they said get out.

4588
03:25:31,600 --> 03:25:33,440
Speaker 7: Well, he has his own party, he has.

4589
03:25:33,360 --> 03:25:35,720
Speaker 6: His own party. I'm sure he has jurisdiction over when

4590
03:25:35,760 --> 03:25:37,720
Speaker 6: that came exactly turned on and when it doesn't.

4591
03:25:38,000 --> 03:25:41,440
Speaker 2: That's what That's what I must say. And is Jonah

4592
03:25:41,480 --> 03:25:41,879
Speaker 2: still there?

4593
03:25:43,480 --> 03:25:44,160
Speaker 16: I'm still here?

4594
03:25:44,959 --> 03:25:45,199
Speaker 2: Yeah?

4595
03:25:45,560 --> 03:25:49,360
Speaker 7: Okay, So we all like Jalen Noel no no, no,

4596
03:25:49,840 --> 03:25:51,920
Speaker 7: no no no. I think I called him Noel and.

4597
03:25:52,440 --> 03:25:55,560
Speaker 5: I've called it months, but it's no the first Noel,

4598
03:25:57,000 --> 03:26:00,640
Speaker 5: second one, there's there's she don't care Paul, worry about him.

4599
03:26:00,640 --> 03:26:02,480
Speaker 5: He's finally get the fan cam there in can'ton.

4600
03:26:02,280 --> 03:26:06,879
Speaker 2: Taste Joel not Noel, and san Antonio writes.

4601
03:26:06,879 --> 03:26:10,760
Speaker 7: You know him anymore? You haven't down here, Joel.

4602
03:26:10,560 --> 03:26:13,000
Speaker 2: And san Antonio just a quick comment. I don't get

4603
03:26:13,080 --> 03:26:15,440
Speaker 2: all the negative people calling tonight because we pick what

4604
03:26:15,520 --> 03:26:18,440
Speaker 2: we needed. Perhaps this pick is a gamble, but you

4605
03:26:18,560 --> 03:26:21,280
Speaker 2: know what also is a gamble trading down hoping that

4606
03:26:21,400 --> 03:26:23,960
Speaker 2: some other guy you want is there. How's that worked out?

4607
03:26:24,000 --> 03:26:26,879
Speaker 2: For the past few seasons, Campbell has been a left

4608
03:26:26,920 --> 03:26:30,320
Speaker 2: tackle all throughout. He knows the position. Obviously, haven't even

4609
03:26:30,360 --> 03:26:32,640
Speaker 2: seen him on the team, and y'all are already switching

4610
03:26:32,720 --> 03:26:36,320
Speaker 2: him inside. Calm down, y'all are being hysterical and a

4611
03:26:36,400 --> 03:26:39,680
Speaker 2: bit of a listener on listener crime the la guy, dude,

4612
03:26:40,080 --> 03:26:42,440
Speaker 2: every time you try to explain to defend your comments,

4613
03:26:42,480 --> 03:26:45,040
Speaker 2: you're just digging a deeper hole. Put down the shovel

4614
03:26:45,320 --> 03:26:48,879
Speaker 2: and stop explaining or justifying your positions. We already don't

4615
03:26:49,440 --> 03:26:54,600
Speaker 2: like you and love you at the same time. No,

4616
03:26:54,720 --> 03:26:55,840
Speaker 2: he says, we like you in love, you.

4617
03:26:57,600 --> 03:26:59,800
Speaker 6: Don't even think of trading going on. The Falcons are

4618
03:26:59,840 --> 03:27:01,920
Speaker 6: now on the clock at twenty six, So they made

4619
03:27:01,920 --> 03:27:03,039
Speaker 6: a significant trade.

4620
03:27:02,920 --> 03:27:07,440
Speaker 5: Up here to get back on Sure, wow, who could

4621
03:27:07,480 --> 03:27:07,680
Speaker 5: that be?

4622
03:27:07,800 --> 03:27:13,760
Speaker 6: For the Falcon's next pick is forty six, so this

4623
03:27:13,959 --> 03:27:18,840
Speaker 6: is a pretty significant move here, forty six to twenty six,

4624
03:27:19,200 --> 03:27:19,800
Speaker 6: twenty picks.

4625
03:27:20,600 --> 03:27:22,360
Speaker 5: Mike Green would could that be possible?

4626
03:27:24,640 --> 03:27:25,400
Speaker 6: Could be possible?

4627
03:27:25,959 --> 03:27:29,000
Speaker 2: Jeremiah says, I can't believe us winning against the Bills

4628
03:27:29,040 --> 03:27:31,200
Speaker 2: cost us a haul of picks in such a weak class.

4629
03:27:31,320 --> 03:27:33,960
Speaker 2: Sadly everyone was wrong about being stuck at number one

4630
03:27:34,120 --> 03:27:36,800
Speaker 2: was a bad thing. However, can't complain about the past,

4631
03:27:37,040 --> 03:27:38,279
Speaker 2: and I'm hyped for Will Campbell.

4632
03:27:39,080 --> 03:27:40,520
Speaker 6: Not everybody was wrong about that.

4633
03:27:41,720 --> 03:27:42,760
Speaker 7: Appreciate you moving on.

4634
03:27:42,920 --> 03:27:46,600
Speaker 5: I also giants, they did add little Jordan Humphrey, he

4635
03:27:46,640 --> 03:27:49,040
Speaker 5: made he made the graphic as issues.

4636
03:27:50,560 --> 03:27:52,680
Speaker 7: I think they could have made a trade if they

4637
03:27:52,760 --> 03:27:55,440
Speaker 7: had the number one pick, But like, I don't necessarily

4638
03:27:55,560 --> 03:27:58,480
Speaker 7: know what. Like I liked the Cleveland trade, but I

4639
03:27:58,520 --> 03:28:01,040
Speaker 7: don't necessarily think that that was like highway robbery or

4640
03:28:01,040 --> 03:28:05,840
Speaker 7: anything you like, I don't know, I don't know people

4641
03:28:06,560 --> 03:28:08,640
Speaker 7: would people have been clamoring to get up to get

4642
03:28:10,280 --> 03:28:10,800
Speaker 7: cam Wood.

4643
03:28:11,640 --> 03:28:12,560
Speaker 5: That's what I was just thinking.

4644
03:28:12,720 --> 03:28:15,320
Speaker 7: Now, maybe like you know, you could tell us you

4645
03:28:15,360 --> 03:28:18,160
Speaker 7: could have gotten up to get the Evan Lazar Travis

4646
03:28:18,240 --> 03:28:20,000
Speaker 7: Hunter package. Yeah, but I don't know.

4647
03:28:20,680 --> 03:28:24,120
Speaker 6: I don't know if clamoring is the right word. But

4648
03:28:24,440 --> 03:28:26,800
Speaker 6: I still think you would have gotten something for the pick.

4649
03:28:26,920 --> 03:28:28,199
Speaker 7: You absolutely would have gotten something.

4650
03:28:28,200 --> 03:28:30,240
Speaker 6: I don't think you're going to get an RG three

4651
03:28:30,440 --> 03:28:33,800
Speaker 6: level you know packages, or the Bryce Young package or

4652
03:28:33,879 --> 03:28:36,560
Speaker 6: anything that crazy, but I think you still would have

4653
03:28:36,600 --> 03:28:41,360
Speaker 6: gotten a sizeable package to move off the pick.

4654
03:28:41,520 --> 03:28:45,840
Speaker 7: I agree. So if you're Joe Shane and Brian Dable,

4655
03:28:47,680 --> 03:28:49,920
Speaker 7: like this is probably the best of both worlds. You

4656
03:28:50,000 --> 03:28:53,279
Speaker 7: were able to take the player who can help you immediately.

4657
03:28:54,920 --> 03:28:57,879
Speaker 7: You got two veterans in that, you know, holding down

4658
03:28:57,920 --> 03:28:59,879
Speaker 7: the fort. You have to hope that they play decent

4659
03:29:00,040 --> 03:29:01,720
Speaker 7: enough that you can win a couple of games to

4660
03:29:01,840 --> 03:29:04,640
Speaker 7: stick around. And you have a developmental guy who's not

4661
03:29:04,760 --> 03:29:06,600
Speaker 7: probably going to be asked to play right away, but

4662
03:29:06,680 --> 03:29:09,880
Speaker 7: you have that, you know, to start. Hey, mister Marra,

4663
03:29:10,480 --> 03:29:12,760
Speaker 7: this is our guy. We just he's not quite ready yet.

4664
03:29:14,440 --> 03:29:15,200
Speaker 5: Table getting them.

4665
03:29:15,240 --> 03:29:18,360
Speaker 7: There is that any chance that they saved their jobs?

4666
03:29:18,560 --> 03:29:19,840
Speaker 5: Well maybe a little. I mean, I look how you

4667
03:29:19,959 --> 03:29:22,200
Speaker 5: laid it out, like how you laid it out. I just, uh,

4668
03:29:22,640 --> 03:29:24,240
Speaker 5: I don't know, I get I get. I get a

4669
03:29:24,400 --> 03:29:26,840
Speaker 5: vibe from Jackson Darth. It's just I don't know, he

4670
03:29:26,920 --> 03:29:28,880
Speaker 5: seems a little hair Zach Wilson to me.

4671
03:29:28,920 --> 03:29:30,520
Speaker 7: I don't know. There's a lot going on there those

4672
03:29:30,600 --> 03:29:31,360
Speaker 7: whole miss guys.

4673
03:29:32,440 --> 03:29:34,840
Speaker 6: But but this is my whole point to keep going

4674
03:29:34,920 --> 03:29:37,520
Speaker 6: back to trashing the Browns. But like that that this

4675
03:29:37,720 --> 03:29:39,840
Speaker 6: is my whole point with the whole thing about the Browns.

4676
03:29:39,879 --> 03:29:42,200
Speaker 2: So how is the Giants war room situation? Looks like

4677
03:29:42,240 --> 03:29:46,360
Speaker 2: they're at the counter of a McDonald's waiting to water, Like,

4678
03:29:47,000 --> 03:29:47,640
Speaker 2: what are they doing?

4679
03:29:48,360 --> 03:29:50,560
Speaker 5: Look like that, guys, the friar laders broken. It's just

4680
03:29:50,600 --> 03:29:51,840
Speaker 5: gonna be a few minutes ago.

4681
03:29:53,000 --> 03:29:55,039
Speaker 7: That you forget about the Sunday that ain't working.

4682
03:29:55,720 --> 03:29:57,720
Speaker 6: I was gonna say the ice cream machine is the

4683
03:29:57,840 --> 03:29:58,640
Speaker 6: one that's broken.

4684
03:30:00,280 --> 03:30:01,040
Speaker 5: No mcflurry.

4685
03:30:01,520 --> 03:30:02,879
Speaker 7: Now there's a quarterback room.

4686
03:30:03,760 --> 03:30:05,119
Speaker 6: Wow, looks good.

4687
03:30:05,280 --> 03:30:08,280
Speaker 2: That is that is quite quite the room? Oh my god,

4688
03:30:08,360 --> 03:30:10,279
Speaker 2: I doubt to Tommy Dona and that's.

4689
03:30:10,200 --> 03:30:12,879
Speaker 6: The that's the I'd rather be the Giants and the Browns.

4690
03:30:13,080 --> 03:30:21,240
Speaker 7: Tommy Colors, Okay, Jamis James, everybody, And we've officially reached

4691
03:30:21,280 --> 03:30:22,080
Speaker 7: that time of the night.

4692
03:30:22,400 --> 03:30:24,640
Speaker 2: Hey, Jason and Chiba writing and just check it in

4693
03:30:24,680 --> 03:30:27,279
Speaker 2: from Japan. Thanks as always for the great draft coverage.

4694
03:30:27,320 --> 03:30:29,320
Speaker 2: Great to be able to listen live. I tried to call,

4695
03:30:29,440 --> 03:30:32,040
Speaker 2: but my phone plan for whatever reason, wouldn't connect me.

4696
03:30:32,440 --> 03:30:35,440
Speaker 2: As always, less of me, more of you, Jason and Chiba,

4697
03:30:35,520 --> 03:30:37,880
Speaker 2: well and Kanagawa today.

4698
03:30:37,959 --> 03:30:39,880
Speaker 7: Good to hear from you, Jason. We haven't heard one

4699
03:30:39,879 --> 03:30:42,040
Speaker 7: of the Chiba one of the originals.

4700
03:30:42,120 --> 03:30:43,880
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, I love when they pop up up to

4701
03:30:43,920 --> 03:30:45,760
Speaker 5: you guys, but it seems like guys disappear and then

4702
03:30:45,760 --> 03:30:47,000
Speaker 5: all of a sudden you're like, oh, yeah, we haven't

4703
03:30:47,000 --> 03:30:48,280
Speaker 5: heard from that guy in a few years.

4704
03:30:48,320 --> 03:30:51,560
Speaker 6: And the Falcons made a huge trade, so they traded

4705
03:30:52,920 --> 03:30:56,480
Speaker 6: their twenty twenty six first round pick to move up

4706
03:30:56,560 --> 03:31:00,320
Speaker 6: twenty spots with the Rams. So it's the Falcons getting

4707
03:31:01,000 --> 03:31:03,160
Speaker 6: the twenty sixth pick in a third round pick this

4708
03:31:03,320 --> 03:31:07,160
Speaker 6: year and the Rams getting forty six at twenty twenty

4709
03:31:07,240 --> 03:31:09,280
Speaker 6: sixth first and the seventh round this year. So they

4710
03:31:09,280 --> 03:31:10,760
Speaker 6: gave up a future first round pick.

4711
03:31:10,640 --> 03:31:12,560
Speaker 2: For who we do not know you.

4712
03:31:13,120 --> 03:31:16,560
Speaker 6: So it's not the Rams, right, No, they have Pennix.

4713
03:31:16,800 --> 03:31:18,320
Speaker 5: Rams sucking draft picks.

4714
03:31:18,680 --> 03:31:20,920
Speaker 2: Wonder who they would have could be that value.

4715
03:31:22,240 --> 03:31:28,880
Speaker 6: I don't know. The Falcons took James Pierce, the edge

4716
03:31:28,959 --> 03:31:31,879
Speaker 6: rusher from Tennessee who a lot of people coming into

4717
03:31:31,959 --> 03:31:34,080
Speaker 6: this draft process thought that he was the best edge

4718
03:31:34,120 --> 03:31:36,840
Speaker 6: rusher in the class. Now he had a down year

4719
03:31:37,080 --> 03:31:39,760
Speaker 6: and he's also kind of a head case. So we're

4720
03:31:39,800 --> 03:31:44,080
Speaker 6: here at twenty six. But he's a Barth guy.

4721
03:31:44,360 --> 03:31:46,920
Speaker 5: Yeah, guy, I thought Barth loved James Pears. He's one.

4722
03:31:47,360 --> 03:31:49,200
Speaker 6: He's one of those guys that you know, Barth like

4723
03:31:49,280 --> 03:31:51,440
Speaker 6: he's ahead of the curve on all these guys. So

4724
03:31:51,640 --> 03:31:53,959
Speaker 6: like going into the college football season last.

4725
03:31:53,840 --> 03:31:56,280
Speaker 7: Year, you've ever said about Bart, You're right.

4726
03:31:56,720 --> 03:31:59,360
Speaker 6: Going into the college football season, like I said, Pierce

4727
03:31:59,480 --> 03:32:02,400
Speaker 6: was considered to top five top ten caliber players. So

4728
03:32:02,480 --> 03:32:05,480
Speaker 6: he probably told me about James Pierce like last August

4729
03:32:05,600 --> 03:32:08,040
Speaker 6: and was like, this is one of the guys in

4730
03:32:08,120 --> 03:32:09,119
Speaker 6: this year's draft.

4731
03:32:08,959 --> 03:32:11,160
Speaker 5: And you're like a watch list for us, like in

4732
03:32:11,400 --> 03:32:13,960
Speaker 5: like you know, like late August. Just give me a

4733
03:32:14,040 --> 03:32:15,600
Speaker 5: list of guys and be like, here're the guys.

4734
03:32:15,680 --> 03:32:17,560
Speaker 6: Just just because I can't, like I have to make

4735
03:32:17,560 --> 03:32:18,720
Speaker 6: fun of him a little bit. One of the most

4736
03:32:18,760 --> 03:32:21,920
Speaker 6: annoying things that he does is he'll search our texts

4737
03:32:22,600 --> 03:32:25,199
Speaker 6: and like pull up like you know, oh, I mentioned

4738
03:32:25,240 --> 03:32:27,560
Speaker 6: this guy two years ago, Like you know, I got

4739
03:32:27,840 --> 03:32:29,960
Speaker 6: that would annoy me, right, and I'm like cool, dude,

4740
03:32:30,080 --> 03:32:32,119
Speaker 6: like cool, like you were on, don't.

4741
03:32:32,520 --> 03:32:34,040
Speaker 7: I don't need to have the stupid things that I

4742
03:32:34,120 --> 03:32:36,000
Speaker 7: said one day that but you know, thrown back in

4743
03:32:36,080 --> 03:32:37,040
Speaker 7: my face. Yeah.

4744
03:32:37,200 --> 03:32:39,160
Speaker 6: Yeah, he was like I tried to tell you about

4745
03:32:39,200 --> 03:32:42,000
Speaker 6: this guy six months ago, Like all right, Bart, thanks.

4746
03:32:42,360 --> 03:32:44,120
Speaker 5: It is interesting though with Peers because I kind of

4747
03:32:44,160 --> 03:32:46,400
Speaker 5: grouped him with Green a little bit together as edge

4748
03:32:46,440 --> 03:32:48,400
Speaker 5: guys with maybe some off the field questions.

4749
03:32:48,520 --> 03:32:48,720
Speaker 2: Yeah.

4750
03:32:48,920 --> 03:32:51,000
Speaker 7: That's funny to me though, that you would make that

4751
03:32:51,200 --> 03:32:53,600
Speaker 7: kind of a trick because that's a significant trade, huge

4752
03:32:53,680 --> 03:32:57,080
Speaker 7: trade to move up that far. Yeah, I mean, I

4753
03:32:57,080 --> 03:32:58,800
Speaker 7: don't think they gave up too much to move up

4754
03:32:58,879 --> 03:33:00,760
Speaker 7: that far, but like it, it's just such a weird

4755
03:33:00,840 --> 03:33:02,480
Speaker 7: guy to leave him to target like that.

4756
03:33:02,720 --> 03:33:03,960
Speaker 5: Even James Pierce can't believe it.

4757
03:33:04,000 --> 03:33:06,440
Speaker 6: He was like, what really, Yeah, I mean if this

4758
03:33:06,600 --> 03:33:08,920
Speaker 6: was like the Browns coming up to.

4759
03:33:09,000 --> 03:33:11,120
Speaker 7: Draft, they know for sure he wouldn't be available if

4760
03:33:11,120 --> 03:33:15,760
Speaker 7: they just sat tight, right, Well, twenty pix is a while, no,

4761
03:33:15,920 --> 03:33:17,480
Speaker 7: I know, but like I mean, I guess you have

4762
03:33:17,560 --> 03:33:18,040
Speaker 7: good intel.

4763
03:33:18,120 --> 03:33:19,959
Speaker 5: They probably wait a few I mean, they must thought

4764
03:33:20,000 --> 03:33:21,199
Speaker 5: he's he's going like, yeah.

4765
03:33:21,040 --> 03:33:22,840
Speaker 7: They must have good intel to know that, you know,

4766
03:33:23,080 --> 03:33:24,680
Speaker 7: like so and so is going to take him if

4767
03:33:24,680 --> 03:33:25,360
Speaker 7: we don't move up.

4768
03:33:25,440 --> 03:33:26,600
Speaker 5: Is he a Baltimore kind of guy?

4769
03:33:26,680 --> 03:33:30,040
Speaker 7: It seems like a little bit Baltimore. There is one

4770
03:33:30,080 --> 03:33:31,960
Speaker 7: of those guys. I think they're gonna they look like

4771
03:33:32,000 --> 03:33:35,520
Speaker 7: they shop in a way. Yeah, I think so. Maybe

4772
03:33:35,560 --> 03:33:36,560
Speaker 7: they're looking to upgrade.

4773
03:33:36,800 --> 03:33:39,560
Speaker 6: I think, you know, with James Pierce, he was one

4774
03:33:39,600 --> 03:33:41,640
Speaker 6: of one of the stories that you heard which is

4775
03:33:41,720 --> 03:33:45,480
Speaker 6: so like draft right, apparently like he would like stand

4776
03:33:45,520 --> 03:33:47,960
Speaker 6: alone on the sideline a lot, like just like a

4777
03:33:48,040 --> 03:33:49,959
Speaker 6: man on an island, like away from the whole rest

4778
03:33:50,040 --> 03:33:51,720
Speaker 6: of the defense and the whole rest of the team,

4779
03:33:52,280 --> 03:33:53,039
Speaker 6: and like it's a.

4780
03:33:53,040 --> 03:33:54,359
Speaker 7: Sneaky one of those positions.

4781
03:33:54,560 --> 03:33:57,120
Speaker 6: Yeah, And like the scouts that would you know, the

4782
03:33:57,200 --> 03:33:59,600
Speaker 6: area of scouts and stuff that were actually go to

4783
03:33:59,640 --> 03:34:02,039
Speaker 6: the game and boots on the ground with like write

4784
03:34:02,040 --> 03:34:04,120
Speaker 6: in their reports like he's kind of a loner, like

4785
03:34:04,240 --> 03:34:06,359
Speaker 6: you know, he kind of you know, stands by himself

4786
03:34:06,400 --> 03:34:08,400
Speaker 6: all this. It's like they see the type of stuff

4787
03:34:08,440 --> 03:34:09,320
Speaker 6: that turns teams off.

4788
03:34:09,520 --> 03:34:11,840
Speaker 7: And I didn't read something about the falcons. I want

4789
03:34:11,879 --> 03:34:13,640
Speaker 7: to say schefter on Monday when he had that like

4790
03:34:13,760 --> 03:34:18,680
Speaker 7: grab bag of all draft tidbits. The Falcons pass rush

4791
03:34:18,840 --> 03:34:22,480
Speaker 7: has been absolutely abysmal for like ten years. They haven't

4792
03:34:22,520 --> 03:34:24,240
Speaker 7: had a guy with like more than six sacks in

4793
03:34:24,280 --> 03:34:27,480
Speaker 7: the season and like forever. And you know, they doubled

4794
03:34:27,560 --> 03:34:29,560
Speaker 7: up on edge guys in the first round. They got

4795
03:34:29,640 --> 03:34:33,360
Speaker 7: Jalen Walker too with Pierce, so clearly they thought that

4796
03:34:33,520 --> 03:34:36,119
Speaker 7: was a major, major need and they that's a lot

4797
03:34:36,200 --> 03:34:37,160
Speaker 7: to give up to.

4798
03:34:37,680 --> 03:34:40,000
Speaker 5: Get a guy like that in my in my view, yeah,

4799
03:34:40,000 --> 03:34:42,640
Speaker 5: I mean, they probably feel like they've got Bijon, they've

4800
03:34:42,680 --> 03:34:45,560
Speaker 5: got Pennix in place, you know, Drake London on the

4801
03:34:45,640 --> 03:34:47,960
Speaker 5: outside that they've got the pieces on offense for the

4802
03:34:48,040 --> 03:34:49,360
Speaker 5: most part, but felt like the.

4803
03:34:49,680 --> 03:34:52,480
Speaker 7: Penny can play, They certainly have the pieces on offense. Yeah,

4804
03:34:52,520 --> 03:34:55,280
Speaker 7: and if their coaches can coach, that's another good point.

4805
03:34:55,440 --> 03:34:56,400
Speaker 6: Yeah, big.

4806
03:34:56,440 --> 03:34:59,560
Speaker 2: If Tim in California on the hotline, what's up?

4807
03:34:59,640 --> 03:34:59,840
Speaker 7: Tim?

4808
03:35:01,440 --> 03:35:04,160
Speaker 28: I had to call back in I got cut off

4809
03:35:04,200 --> 03:35:06,920
Speaker 28: there at the end of the first call. I traded

4810
03:35:07,000 --> 03:35:12,400
Speaker 28: back into ask this question for y'all with our number two.

4811
03:35:14,720 --> 03:35:19,120
Speaker 28: Should we if Josh Simmons is there or Luthor Burden's there,

4812
03:35:19,120 --> 03:35:20,279
Speaker 28: who would you rather take.

4813
03:35:20,800 --> 03:35:24,640
Speaker 7: Luther Burn Luther Burdens, Yeah.

4814
03:35:24,760 --> 03:35:25,879
Speaker 2: Would you rather take.

4815
03:35:28,000 --> 03:35:31,120
Speaker 28: I'm kind of thinking that if he sits for a

4816
03:35:31,240 --> 03:35:36,400
Speaker 28: year and then you develop them, and Will Campbell doesn't

4817
03:35:36,440 --> 03:35:39,360
Speaker 28: work out at left tackle, then you will inside it

4818
03:35:39,400 --> 03:35:42,440
Speaker 28: and then you have your left tackle. Or if Will

4819
03:35:42,480 --> 03:35:44,960
Speaker 28: Campbell does work out, then you trade them for something

4820
03:35:45,160 --> 03:35:48,520
Speaker 28: for next year. But again, it doesn't help our immediate needs.

4821
03:35:48,600 --> 03:35:51,520
Speaker 28: So I'm kind of leaning towards Luthor Burden as well.

4822
03:35:51,640 --> 03:35:55,080
Speaker 28: But I know you've had some character issues, so kind

4823
03:35:55,080 --> 03:35:55,720
Speaker 28: of worried about that.

4824
03:35:56,360 --> 03:35:58,280
Speaker 6: Yeah, if you want to do that sort of thing

4825
03:35:58,400 --> 03:36:00,800
Speaker 6: with like a Charles Granter and the Belton or one

4826
03:36:00,800 --> 03:36:03,680
Speaker 6: of these developmental tackles, and you want to just head

4827
03:36:03,760 --> 03:36:05,680
Speaker 6: your bets a little bit by drafting one of those

4828
03:36:05,720 --> 03:36:08,440
Speaker 6: guys in the third or fourth round, I'm all for that.

4829
03:36:08,600 --> 03:36:11,240
Speaker 6: I don't think you can draft two guys.

4830
03:36:11,280 --> 03:36:13,160
Speaker 7: Yeah, and I don't. I mean, Mike Reached threw that

4831
03:36:13,240 --> 03:36:16,920
Speaker 7: out there earlier this week about Simmons. You know, if

4832
03:36:16,959 --> 03:36:19,320
Speaker 7: you took him and then it's kind of kind of

4833
03:36:19,400 --> 03:36:21,760
Speaker 7: insurance you have two tackles, But I would worry that

4834
03:36:21,920 --> 03:36:24,560
Speaker 7: one of them wouldn't have the ability to play the

4835
03:36:24,680 --> 03:36:28,119
Speaker 7: right side if you needed them to you know, let's say,

4836
03:36:28,360 --> 03:36:30,320
Speaker 7: you know, because I don't like the idea of I'm

4837
03:36:30,360 --> 03:36:32,640
Speaker 7: going to take Simmons in case Campbell doesn't work.

4838
03:36:32,680 --> 03:36:33,200
Speaker 2: I don't want to.

4839
03:36:33,640 --> 03:36:35,360
Speaker 7: I don't I don't want to continguency. I want to

4840
03:36:35,400 --> 03:36:38,000
Speaker 7: be all in, you know, and that that it will

4841
03:36:38,080 --> 03:36:41,200
Speaker 7: work him at left tackle. So I don't want to

4842
03:36:41,240 --> 03:36:43,240
Speaker 7: be in a situation where if everything goes the way

4843
03:36:43,280 --> 03:36:45,800
Speaker 7: I wanted to go, now I have a dilemma. I

4844
03:36:45,879 --> 03:36:48,560
Speaker 7: got to move one of them, either position wise or

4845
03:36:48,680 --> 03:36:50,000
Speaker 7: to another team. I don't want to do that.

4846
03:36:50,600 --> 03:36:55,880
Speaker 2: No, Okay, Jr. From Florida's back on the line. What's up, Jr?

4847
03:36:56,120 --> 03:36:56,960
Speaker 7: Multiple callers.

4848
03:36:57,080 --> 03:36:59,680
Speaker 18: Yeah, Hey, I got cut off from you guys last time,

4849
03:37:00,120 --> 03:37:01,879
Speaker 18: end of my call. So I figured I'd just give

4850
03:37:01,920 --> 03:37:06,760
Speaker 18: you guys a call back at this point. Okay, how

4851
03:37:06,840 --> 03:37:09,400
Speaker 18: we were talking about before I had got cut off,

4852
03:37:09,480 --> 03:37:11,360
Speaker 18: you know, about the game breakers and this and that.

4853
03:37:12,080 --> 03:37:13,640
Speaker 2: Oh so this is are you the guy from fort

4854
03:37:14,080 --> 03:37:19,600
Speaker 2: No no, no, no, no, no, no, okay.

4855
03:37:20,160 --> 03:37:25,600
Speaker 18: Anyway, I think at this point I would be thinking,

4856
03:37:27,080 --> 03:37:29,680
Speaker 18: wouldn't you want to try to move up for somebody

4857
03:37:29,840 --> 03:37:33,040
Speaker 18: like Trey Yon Henderson with him still on the board,

4858
03:37:33,080 --> 03:37:36,000
Speaker 18: and if you like I know we we need a

4859
03:37:36,040 --> 03:37:39,960
Speaker 18: wide receiver, but I'm thinking I would go heavy on

4860
03:37:40,160 --> 03:37:42,520
Speaker 18: offense in the beginning of this draft because I think

4861
03:37:42,600 --> 03:37:44,840
Speaker 18: the defense is going to stand up with what we

4862
03:37:44,959 --> 03:37:47,119
Speaker 18: got and they're gonna be They're gonna be productive.

4863
03:37:47,280 --> 03:37:49,160
Speaker 2: Well here's the thing, j are if if if you

4864
03:37:49,560 --> 03:37:51,840
Speaker 2: you know, listen, I'm not ruling out running back, but

4865
03:37:51,920 --> 03:37:54,360
Speaker 2: you can stay where you are and get a pretty

4866
03:37:54,400 --> 03:37:56,440
Speaker 2: good running back in this draft. You don't need to

4867
03:37:56,520 --> 03:37:56,959
Speaker 2: move up.

4868
03:37:59,520 --> 03:38:01,240
Speaker 18: You think any of them are going to be Like

4869
03:38:01,360 --> 03:38:02,360
Speaker 18: Traveon Henderson.

4870
03:38:02,720 --> 03:38:03,760
Speaker 28: He just for me.

4871
03:38:03,879 --> 03:38:05,960
Speaker 18: He does it all, you know what I mean. He's

4872
03:38:06,080 --> 03:38:09,520
Speaker 18: just I love his past catching ability and we all

4873
03:38:09,640 --> 03:38:12,720
Speaker 18: know that McDaniel he loves. He loves the back that

4874
03:38:12,800 --> 03:38:13,600
Speaker 18: can catch the ball.

4875
03:38:13,879 --> 03:38:16,600
Speaker 7: You know, we think he'd be available at thirty eight block.

4876
03:38:17,640 --> 03:38:19,800
Speaker 7: Huh do you think he might be available at thirty eight?

4877
03:38:21,680 --> 03:38:22,800
Speaker 18: You want to take that chance?

4878
03:38:23,280 --> 03:38:23,520
Speaker 7: Sure?

4879
03:38:23,959 --> 03:38:27,800
Speaker 6: Yeah, he would. I love Traveon Henderson. He was one

4880
03:38:27,840 --> 03:38:30,840
Speaker 6: of those players that I didn't really feel like it

4881
03:38:31,120 --> 03:38:34,280
Speaker 6: made sense for the Patriots, but he's so damn good.

4882
03:38:34,320 --> 03:38:35,840
Speaker 6: I couldn't keep him off the big board.

4883
03:38:35,879 --> 03:38:37,440
Speaker 7: I was I have to have this do You'm not

4884
03:38:37,520 --> 03:38:39,360
Speaker 7: telling him I don't like the player I'm saying, I

4885
03:38:39,440 --> 03:38:41,720
Speaker 7: think he's I think he could be available at thirty eight.

4886
03:38:41,840 --> 03:38:44,640
Speaker 6: Yeah, he's, Uh, he's Jamior Gibbs, light like he's He's

4887
03:38:44,720 --> 03:38:46,879
Speaker 6: got that kind of skill set, that kind of game

4888
03:38:46,959 --> 03:38:50,160
Speaker 6: breaking speed if you will, that has that type of gear,

4889
03:38:50,280 --> 03:38:52,720
Speaker 6: no doubt about it. I mean, he's an awesome back

4890
03:38:52,800 --> 03:38:55,640
Speaker 6: to watch and he's explosive as hell. But I don't

4891
03:38:55,640 --> 03:38:58,000
Speaker 6: know if he needs trade up. I mean, the Baltimore

4892
03:38:58,080 --> 03:38:59,920
Speaker 6: is about to take Malchi, Starks are not going to

4893
03:39:00,080 --> 03:39:02,160
Speaker 6: take a running back. Detroit is probably not going to

4894
03:39:02,200 --> 03:39:02,959
Speaker 6: take a running back.

4895
03:39:03,680 --> 03:39:06,120
Speaker 7: You know, Washington, I guess could you have to worry

4896
03:39:06,120 --> 03:39:08,480
Speaker 7: about teams jumping up, you know, in front of you.

4897
03:39:09,280 --> 03:39:12,600
Speaker 6: But Houston, I would say, is for one of those

4898
03:39:12,680 --> 03:39:15,360
Speaker 6: tackles you know they're gonna they're gonna take at the

4899
03:39:15,440 --> 03:39:17,520
Speaker 6: top of the second round. You know, Look, I don't

4900
03:39:17,520 --> 03:39:19,600
Speaker 6: know if he'll make it all the way to thirty eight.

4901
03:39:19,600 --> 03:39:21,120
Speaker 6: If he's there at thirty eight and they picked him,

4902
03:39:21,120 --> 03:39:22,039
Speaker 6: I wouldn't be mad at all.

4903
03:39:22,520 --> 03:39:25,480
Speaker 7: Yeah, it's surprising that Houston not just thinking about that

4904
03:39:25,520 --> 03:39:29,400
Speaker 7: because they do have that need to fill tunsil spot. Yeah,

4905
03:39:29,400 --> 03:39:32,039
Speaker 7: and they decided to trade down yeah, so they must

4906
03:39:32,120 --> 03:39:35,119
Speaker 7: not love the Connorley Grocery Simmons.

4907
03:39:35,440 --> 03:39:38,280
Speaker 6: Well, Kansas City is gonna probably you would think, would

4908
03:39:38,320 --> 03:39:41,760
Speaker 6: take one of those those tackles. Right, they're at thirty one,

4909
03:39:42,400 --> 03:39:46,120
Speaker 6: and then Houston will will have their one of the three,

4910
03:39:46,280 --> 03:39:47,800
Speaker 6: right like they'll they'll be able to pick one of

4911
03:39:47,800 --> 03:39:51,000
Speaker 6: the three at the top of the second now right, yep,

4912
03:39:51,120 --> 03:39:53,760
Speaker 6: they're right there at uh at thirty four, so that

4913
03:39:53,840 --> 03:39:56,720
Speaker 6: they'll be able to pick. They'll they'll get one of

4914
03:39:56,760 --> 03:39:58,800
Speaker 6: those guys at that spot.

4915
03:40:00,080 --> 03:40:03,000
Speaker 2: Max in Mexico City writes in at podcasts at Patriots

4916
03:40:03,040 --> 03:40:06,760
Speaker 2: dot Com. He says he's written in four drafts in

4917
03:40:06,800 --> 03:40:09,400
Speaker 2: a row and looking forward to many more. First off,

4918
03:40:09,520 --> 03:40:13,240
Speaker 2: Will Campbell's attitude is contagious and truly patriot, like Matthew

4919
03:40:13,280 --> 03:40:16,920
Speaker 2: Slater would be proud. Next the question, since we're looking

4920
03:40:16,959 --> 03:40:20,160
Speaker 2: to completely renovate our wide receiver room, we need to

4921
03:40:20,240 --> 03:40:22,600
Speaker 2: take some trash out. If you had to release a

4922
03:40:22,680 --> 03:40:24,080
Speaker 2: wide receiver, who would it be and.

4923
03:40:24,120 --> 03:40:28,240
Speaker 7: Why I had to release a wide receipt.

4924
03:40:27,840 --> 03:40:31,320
Speaker 2: I released one, just release yeah anything.

4925
03:40:31,480 --> 03:40:35,080
Speaker 7: Jon Baker would be the one I would too if

4926
03:40:35,120 --> 03:40:37,600
Speaker 7: I had to, So.

4927
03:40:37,720 --> 03:40:39,280
Speaker 5: A lot of people who would cry out at that

4928
03:40:39,400 --> 03:40:41,400
Speaker 5: and be like what I would.

4929
03:40:41,280 --> 03:40:43,080
Speaker 7: Now, I wouldn't want to because I would want to

4930
03:40:43,080 --> 03:40:45,200
Speaker 7: see him go through the whole offseason and see if

4931
03:40:45,240 --> 03:40:48,960
Speaker 7: he's matured and there's anything there. I like, I believe

4932
03:40:49,000 --> 03:40:53,360
Speaker 7: in the ascending second year player much like you know, dude,

4933
03:40:53,480 --> 03:40:56,040
Speaker 7: you are out this week when when Evan and I

4934
03:40:56,200 --> 03:41:00,840
Speaker 7: talked about Adam Schefter putting case Sean Boody on his

4935
03:41:00,959 --> 03:41:04,040
Speaker 7: list of young players that teams might be looking to

4936
03:41:05,080 --> 03:41:08,000
Speaker 7: move on from. And I am not a huge Kishan

4937
03:41:08,040 --> 03:41:10,360
Speaker 7: Boody guy by any means, but I thought it was odd. Yeah,

4938
03:41:10,879 --> 03:41:13,160
Speaker 7: like I do think that he had He showed some

4939
03:41:13,280 --> 03:41:16,520
Speaker 7: signs of maturing last year, just the way we're talking

4940
03:41:16,600 --> 03:41:19,800
Speaker 7: we hope to see from Javon Baker made some place

4941
03:41:19,840 --> 03:41:22,120
Speaker 7: and that wasn't perfect. I think he had some comments

4942
03:41:22,280 --> 03:41:25,320
Speaker 7: after games at times that I thought were odd, But

4943
03:41:25,440 --> 03:41:27,680
Speaker 7: he made some plays, had some production. Why wouldn't you

4944
03:41:27,840 --> 03:41:30,040
Speaker 7: roll the dice that he could build on that and

4945
03:41:30,120 --> 03:41:31,480
Speaker 7: be even better in year three?

4946
03:41:31,720 --> 03:41:31,920
Speaker 1: Yeah?

4947
03:41:32,400 --> 03:41:34,959
Speaker 5: Absolutely, I mean that's to me, Like I said before,

4948
03:41:35,120 --> 03:41:37,119
Speaker 5: giving room to breathe to some of these young players.

4949
03:41:37,720 --> 03:41:41,000
Speaker 5: Offensive lineman Kayden Wallace, Leyden Robinson, you know that the

4950
03:41:41,080 --> 03:41:43,760
Speaker 5: book hasn't been closed on those guys yet, and I'm

4951
03:41:43,800 --> 03:41:47,320
Speaker 5: still hopeful that you're going to get an unexpected return

4952
03:41:47,440 --> 03:41:49,320
Speaker 5: from a place you didn't really expect to get it.

4953
03:41:49,400 --> 03:41:52,640
Speaker 5: Maybe it's that left guard position with Layden Robinson, you know,

4954
03:41:52,720 --> 03:41:55,720
Speaker 5: maybe it's even just Kayden Wallace being a serviceable swing

4955
03:41:55,879 --> 03:41:58,480
Speaker 5: tackle backing up you know, the right side of the

4956
03:41:58,560 --> 03:42:00,880
Speaker 5: line for this year and maybe, you know, maybe he

4957
03:42:00,920 --> 03:42:03,320
Speaker 5: steps into a starting role coming down the line. But

4958
03:42:03,800 --> 03:42:06,880
Speaker 5: it's just a balance trying to like not oversaturate a

4959
03:42:06,920 --> 03:42:10,080
Speaker 5: position where you feel like, man, you got twelve receivers, now,

4960
03:42:10,120 --> 03:42:11,480
Speaker 5: how would we ever gonna be able to tell?

4961
03:42:11,600 --> 03:42:11,720
Speaker 14: Bet?

4962
03:42:12,120 --> 03:42:15,000
Speaker 5: You know, between that and you know, other positions where,

4963
03:42:15,160 --> 03:42:17,160
Speaker 5: like I mentioned running back, there's just not a lot

4964
03:42:17,240 --> 03:42:19,200
Speaker 5: of depth there. There's not a lot of bodies. There's

4965
03:42:19,240 --> 03:42:22,040
Speaker 5: easy to take one of these guys, slide him into

4966
03:42:22,120 --> 03:42:24,360
Speaker 5: that group and say, this guy's gonna not only make

4967
03:42:24,400 --> 03:42:26,760
Speaker 5: the team, but he's he's probably gonna contribute in a rotation.

4968
03:42:26,920 --> 03:42:30,400
Speaker 6: Right now, Yeah, I admit I Kaishan Boody has kind

4969
03:42:30,400 --> 03:42:32,440
Speaker 6: of won me over, like not saying that I think

4970
03:42:32,480 --> 03:42:35,520
Speaker 6: he's gonna be a star, but I was totally not

4971
03:42:35,680 --> 03:42:38,720
Speaker 6: sold on Kishan Boody being an NFL player like this

4972
03:42:38,920 --> 03:42:39,840
Speaker 6: time last year.

4973
03:42:39,879 --> 03:42:41,600
Speaker 7: I would agree, Yeah, I thought he was going to

4974
03:42:41,640 --> 03:42:43,480
Speaker 7: get cut before, you know, heading into training camp, I

4975
03:42:43,560 --> 03:42:45,600
Speaker 7: thought he was cut. I'm sure I had him up

4976
03:42:45,640 --> 03:42:47,760
Speaker 7: with what six hundred yards or so, comeback player of

4977
03:42:47,800 --> 03:42:53,360
Speaker 7: the year, come back from what most improved it. I

4978
03:42:53,520 --> 03:42:56,720
Speaker 7: give you what you want, bro, I I.

4979
03:42:56,959 --> 03:42:59,160
Speaker 6: Probably had him as a cut like late into training

4980
03:42:59,240 --> 03:43:01,680
Speaker 6: camp last year times right, like on fifty three man

4981
03:43:01,800 --> 03:43:04,520
Speaker 6: roster projections, and you know we've talked. We talked a

4982
03:43:04,560 --> 03:43:06,880
Speaker 6: little bit about it on Tuesday. But if you're looking

4983
03:43:07,120 --> 03:43:08,960
Speaker 6: for that X receiver to just kind of be a

4984
03:43:09,120 --> 03:43:11,800
Speaker 6: sacrificial X receiver that's just going to run go routes

4985
03:43:11,840 --> 03:43:14,320
Speaker 6: on the outside and clear out coverage and catch an

4986
03:43:14,360 --> 03:43:16,880
Speaker 6: occasional you know, deep shot every once in a while

4987
03:43:17,040 --> 03:43:21,480
Speaker 6: the game. Yeah, that's exactly Like, isn't that Keijon Booty?

4988
03:43:21,680 --> 03:43:22,800
Speaker 6: Like you're not asking him to be.

4989
03:43:22,840 --> 03:43:24,720
Speaker 7: The star in a while? You look up, but he's

4990
03:43:24,760 --> 03:43:26,840
Speaker 7: three yards behind Derek Stingle right exactly.

4991
03:43:27,320 --> 03:43:29,520
Speaker 6: And you know, if that's the role that that's going

4992
03:43:29,600 --> 03:43:32,840
Speaker 6: to be, which is what it's bent historically with McDaniels, Like,

4993
03:43:32,959 --> 03:43:34,720
Speaker 6: then do you really need to move on from that

4994
03:43:35,000 --> 03:43:36,760
Speaker 6: and then draft another one that's just going to do

4995
03:43:36,840 --> 03:43:37,640
Speaker 6: the same exact thing.

4996
03:43:37,760 --> 03:43:40,280
Speaker 5: Like you already have such a great point, I feel

4997
03:43:40,280 --> 03:43:41,880
Speaker 5: like this is something we should I'd love to get into,

4998
03:43:42,040 --> 03:43:44,680
Speaker 5: like a more extensive conversation about because what you just

4999
03:43:44,720 --> 03:43:48,280
Speaker 5: said about how Josh is, you know, like Jojo Lafel,

5000
03:43:48,520 --> 03:43:52,360
Speaker 5: same thing, right, he was just Malcolm Mitchell outside guy,

5001
03:43:52,920 --> 03:43:56,440
Speaker 5: go comebacks. That's pretty much it did that, you know?

5002
03:43:56,480 --> 03:43:57,720
Speaker 5: And is that the right way to look at it,

5003
03:43:57,760 --> 03:43:59,880
Speaker 5: because it feels like it's almost like a nothing position

5004
03:44:00,080 --> 03:44:02,800
Speaker 5: where you're broadcasting what you want to do with that

5005
03:44:02,879 --> 03:44:05,360
Speaker 5: player on the outside, where I think a lot of fans,

5006
03:44:05,440 --> 03:44:08,120
Speaker 5: including the callers, would say, get them someone more dynamic

5007
03:44:08,200 --> 03:44:10,120
Speaker 5: out there. Don't get somebody who's just out there to

5008
03:44:10,240 --> 03:44:12,120
Speaker 5: do two things. Do somebody who's really going to move

5009
03:44:12,160 --> 03:44:15,040
Speaker 5: the needle and affect the defense. And for too long

5010
03:44:15,160 --> 03:44:17,440
Speaker 5: we've had you know, all these guys don't affect the defense,

5011
03:44:17,440 --> 03:44:19,320
Speaker 5: they don't take the top off the defense. They're they're

5012
03:44:19,360 --> 03:44:21,480
Speaker 5: all crowded the line of scrimmage and what Mike they're

5013
03:44:21,600 --> 03:44:25,520
Speaker 5: they're hard, not hard to defend.

5014
03:44:26,879 --> 03:44:29,720
Speaker 2: Mike and the OC thanks for the coverage tonight. Special

5015
03:44:29,760 --> 03:44:32,880
Speaker 2: shout out to Alex for braving the drunken fans. I'll

5016
03:44:32,920 --> 03:44:35,600
Speaker 2: be disappointed if we don't trade up for Burden. I

5017
03:44:35,760 --> 03:44:37,880
Speaker 2: was disappointed last year when we didn't trade up for

5018
03:44:37,959 --> 03:44:40,800
Speaker 2: Xavier Worthy. I hope we don't make the same mistake again.

5019
03:44:41,720 --> 03:44:44,800
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, I mean we've said a lot of really

5020
03:44:44,879 --> 03:44:48,280
Speaker 6: nice things about Luther Burden. I think it's a great

5021
03:44:48,360 --> 03:44:51,920
Speaker 6: list litmus test of they drafted a guy at four

5022
03:44:51,959 --> 03:44:54,160
Speaker 6: overall that you would say is a Rabel guy, you know,

5023
03:44:54,280 --> 03:44:57,200
Speaker 6: the high character, the love of football, you know that

5024
03:44:57,360 --> 03:45:01,840
Speaker 6: kind of stuff. Luther Burden would be the opposite by reports, right,

5025
03:45:01,879 --> 03:45:04,720
Speaker 6: you know, in indications of what he's like, uh, kind

5026
03:45:04,760 --> 03:45:07,640
Speaker 6: of a diva like would they take a player like that?

5027
03:45:08,040 --> 03:45:11,760
Speaker 6: And I think that they probably should take eventually takes

5028
03:45:11,760 --> 03:45:13,520
Speaker 6: some risk, right and and take on a play.

5029
03:45:14,040 --> 03:45:15,800
Speaker 7: I think you'd have to trade though, because I don't

5030
03:45:15,800 --> 03:45:20,680
Speaker 7: think Detroit necessarily, but Washington could be in, yeah, in

5031
03:45:20,760 --> 03:45:21,800
Speaker 7: the market for a receiver.

5032
03:45:22,240 --> 03:45:25,680
Speaker 6: So Baltimore took Malachi Starks. We kind of glossed over

5033
03:45:25,760 --> 03:45:28,800
Speaker 6: that because it's not really relevant, but that the Baltimore

5034
03:45:28,879 --> 03:45:31,120
Speaker 6: Ravens like annoy me how good they are at this,

5035
03:45:31,360 --> 03:45:35,040
Speaker 6: Like it just kind of pisses me, somebody stud just

5036
03:45:35,120 --> 03:45:37,120
Speaker 6: falls into their lap and they just sit there and

5037
03:45:37,200 --> 03:45:39,920
Speaker 6: they do they do the smart they do the smart thing.

5038
03:45:40,120 --> 03:45:43,440
Speaker 6: They don't reach on some random player. They're just like, oh, yeah,

5039
03:45:43,520 --> 03:45:47,640
Speaker 6: Malachi's is here. We're just gonna take this guy stud.

5040
03:45:47,560 --> 03:45:50,800
Speaker 7: Like Hamilton and Malachi Starks. I mean, it's just annoying.

5041
03:45:50,800 --> 03:45:52,920
Speaker 7: I have a crush on Kyle Hamilton. That's longest that

5042
03:45:53,000 --> 03:45:54,760
Speaker 7: which terrific player.

5043
03:45:54,840 --> 03:45:58,240
Speaker 6: Them in Philadelphia. You know, like there's there's like the

5044
03:45:58,600 --> 03:46:04,440
Speaker 6: some stuff out there about Williams, about Philly and Howie

5045
03:46:04,560 --> 03:46:06,520
Speaker 6: Roseman that teams like won't even pick up the phone

5046
03:46:07,040 --> 03:46:08,879
Speaker 6: to deal with the Howie Roseman because they're so worried

5047
03:46:08,879 --> 03:46:11,280
Speaker 6: they're gonna get swindled by Howie Roseman. But they're like

5048
03:46:11,360 --> 03:46:13,880
Speaker 6: afraid that, Like, well, if you want, I'm like what

5049
03:46:14,040 --> 03:46:16,320
Speaker 6: it was, like, what right?

5050
03:46:16,520 --> 03:46:16,680
Speaker 1: Yeah?

5051
03:46:17,160 --> 03:46:18,880
Speaker 5: And I feel the same way about Bill probably had

5052
03:46:18,879 --> 03:46:20,480
Speaker 5: a period of time with that too, you know in

5053
03:46:20,520 --> 03:46:22,680
Speaker 5: the mid two thousands where teams were just like, oh God,

5054
03:46:22,760 --> 03:46:24,119
Speaker 5: he wants to take one of our guys.

5055
03:46:23,959 --> 03:46:26,680
Speaker 7: Out of the Yeah, it never showed like they I know,

5056
03:46:26,800 --> 03:46:29,360
Speaker 7: they kept giving Randy Moss for but they traded with

5057
03:46:29,480 --> 03:46:31,600
Speaker 7: him constantly, So I don't think people ever thought that

5058
03:46:31,640 --> 03:46:33,880
Speaker 7: they lost the trades because they kept trading with them.

5059
03:46:34,000 --> 03:46:34,760
Speaker 2: Just be a little wary.

5060
03:46:34,840 --> 03:46:36,880
Speaker 7: You know that guy wants one of your players.

5061
03:46:36,959 --> 03:46:39,760
Speaker 2: Well those are low, late round picks, but yeah, they

5062
03:46:40,000 --> 03:46:41,680
Speaker 2: they had. He had a string of trades with Philly.

5063
03:46:41,680 --> 03:46:42,480
Speaker 2: How many years was it?

5064
03:46:42,560 --> 03:46:46,520
Speaker 7: I forget, Oh, I didn't mean yes with Philly, but yeah,

5065
03:46:46,560 --> 03:46:48,160
Speaker 7: you're right, he had a thing with Andy Reid.

5066
03:46:48,280 --> 03:46:51,320
Speaker 5: Right, So just a little light connection with the Patriots here,

5067
03:46:51,720 --> 03:46:54,520
Speaker 5: you know, with Terrell Williams leaving Detroit as the defensive

5068
03:46:54,560 --> 03:46:56,840
Speaker 5: line coach and now you know Detroit obviously had a

5069
03:46:56,879 --> 03:47:00,760
Speaker 5: bunch of defensive injuries last year, couldn't really stick hanging

5070
03:47:00,879 --> 03:47:02,200
Speaker 5: there towards the end of the season. But you know,

5071
03:47:02,280 --> 03:47:06,200
Speaker 5: going and getting Williams from Ohio State, big interior presence, Uh,

5072
03:47:06,280 --> 03:47:08,720
Speaker 5: they'll probably get Austin or Austin What am I saying?

5073
03:47:09,520 --> 03:47:11,480
Speaker 5: The edge guy that broke his leg. That was disgusting

5074
03:47:11,640 --> 03:47:15,320
Speaker 5: agents Sorry, Aiden Hutches, thank you. He's fully helped a

5075
03:47:15,360 --> 03:47:17,039
Speaker 5: little bit of a little bit of a rebuild there.

5076
03:47:17,040 --> 03:47:18,920
Speaker 5: They're they're focused on defensive side of the ball.

5077
03:47:19,080 --> 03:47:21,680
Speaker 7: That's I mean, I don't know how great Williams is,

5078
03:47:21,800 --> 03:47:24,920
Speaker 7: but that's certainly the area that they should be looking at.

5079
03:47:24,959 --> 03:47:27,280
Speaker 7: They need to show up the defense and building the

5080
03:47:27,320 --> 03:47:29,720
Speaker 7: trenches up front, in particular.

5081
03:47:29,800 --> 03:47:34,040
Speaker 2: Jonathan's in Miami Jonathan before the goo, Hey, guys, how

5082
03:47:34,120 --> 03:47:34,560
Speaker 2: y'all going?

5083
03:47:34,720 --> 03:47:35,040
Speaker 36: All right?

5084
03:47:36,959 --> 03:47:39,320
Speaker 42: I had a little quick silly comments for you guys.

5085
03:47:40,320 --> 03:47:42,320
Speaker 42: Do you guys know how long John Barron has owned

5086
03:47:42,360 --> 03:47:42,800
Speaker 42: the Giants?

5087
03:47:43,920 --> 03:47:47,000
Speaker 7: How long the Mara family is on the Giants for

5088
03:47:47,120 --> 03:47:47,840
Speaker 7: a long time?

5089
03:47:49,280 --> 03:47:51,440
Speaker 42: Okay, So I wanted to say, you guys remember the

5090
03:47:51,480 --> 03:47:55,480
Speaker 42: story that happened to be me Brian and the Giants

5091
03:47:55,560 --> 03:48:00,720
Speaker 42: back when he was getting drafted. No, No, as far

5092
03:48:00,720 --> 03:48:04,640
Speaker 42: as Prime telling them that he's not going to be

5093
03:48:04,720 --> 03:48:06,959
Speaker 42: there when they're picking, even talking.

5094
03:48:06,760 --> 03:48:11,520
Speaker 7: To them, who said, yeah, I don't know the story.

5095
03:48:12,879 --> 03:48:16,080
Speaker 42: Oh Prime said that thunders Prime thunders.

5096
03:48:16,200 --> 03:48:18,440
Speaker 7: No, No, I understand what you're saying. I don't know.

5097
03:48:18,560 --> 03:48:21,240
Speaker 7: I'm not familiar with the story. So deone Sanders got

5098
03:48:21,320 --> 03:48:27,880
Speaker 7: drafted one like the late eighties, and he wouldn't meet

5099
03:48:27,920 --> 03:48:30,000
Speaker 7: with the Giants because he was going to be picked

5100
03:48:30,040 --> 03:48:35,080
Speaker 7: before the Giants picked. That happens a lot. Abdual Carver

5101
03:48:35,240 --> 03:48:35,800
Speaker 7: did that this year.

5102
03:48:35,840 --> 03:48:37,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, he only went there first.

5103
03:48:37,600 --> 03:48:39,640
Speaker 7: Four teams because he said he wasn't gonna be going

5104
03:48:39,720 --> 03:48:40,480
Speaker 7: any anymore.

5105
03:48:41,680 --> 03:48:41,880
Speaker 14: Yeah.

5106
03:48:42,200 --> 03:48:44,080
Speaker 42: My Still the comment is, do you think that has

5107
03:48:44,120 --> 03:48:45,920
Speaker 42: anything to do with what the Giants are doing to.

5108
03:48:50,600 --> 03:48:51,920
Speaker 2: Okay, I don't.

5109
03:48:52,560 --> 03:48:54,680
Speaker 7: They wouldn't. They wouldn't have met with Sanders if it did.

5110
03:48:54,840 --> 03:48:57,040
Speaker 7: They met with Sanders extensively.

5111
03:48:57,840 --> 03:49:01,680
Speaker 6: Yeah, I hear, good connection. Yeah, I think that. You know,

5112
03:49:01,720 --> 03:49:03,920
Speaker 6: there is a lot of reporting that came out that

5113
03:49:04,040 --> 03:49:06,400
Speaker 6: the scenes of the Father they really like Jackson Dart.

5114
03:49:06,560 --> 03:49:08,800
Speaker 6: Like I think one of the reports is that like

5115
03:49:08,880 --> 03:49:12,240
Speaker 6: Brian Dable was like kind of infatuated by Jackson Dart.

5116
03:49:12,320 --> 03:49:14,160
Speaker 7: Yeah, now I would. I would have said, you know,

5117
03:49:14,280 --> 03:49:17,520
Speaker 7: if if someone took Shudeah Sanders like two picks later,

5118
03:49:18,200 --> 03:49:20,960
Speaker 7: thanks John, Chinese didn't want him at three, I'm jumping up.

5119
03:49:21,280 --> 03:49:24,040
Speaker 7: You know, Pittsburgh just jumped up sixteen spots to get

5120
03:49:24,080 --> 03:49:26,880
Speaker 7: to four or five or whatever and took him, then

5121
03:49:26,880 --> 03:49:29,120
Speaker 7: I would say, oh, maybe maybe there was something to that.

5122
03:49:29,240 --> 03:49:32,760
Speaker 7: But he's still available, yep. And he's not going to Washington,

5123
03:49:32,840 --> 03:49:34,440
Speaker 7: he's not going to Buffalo, and he's not going to

5124
03:49:34,520 --> 03:49:37,640
Speaker 7: Kansas City. So borrowing a trade or the barring.

5125
03:49:37,440 --> 03:49:42,560
Speaker 6: A trade, Yeah, Cleveland with the first pick in the

5126
03:49:42,600 --> 03:49:44,000
Speaker 6: second round makes a lot of sense.

5127
03:49:44,840 --> 03:49:46,640
Speaker 2: You know, he went first.

5128
03:49:46,440 --> 03:49:47,600
Speaker 5: Overall on day two.

5129
03:49:48,440 --> 03:49:51,960
Speaker 7: I mean, you got to you gotta sweat out if

5130
03:49:51,960 --> 03:49:53,000
Speaker 7: anyone's gonna move up.

5131
03:49:53,040 --> 03:49:57,520
Speaker 2: But yep, Mel's and Sacramento.

5132
03:49:57,800 --> 03:50:04,760
Speaker 7: Hey, Mel Sacktown, Yeah, I'm here. Thanks.

5133
03:50:04,880 --> 03:50:06,520
Speaker 14: I think you guys are doing the great jobs covering

5134
03:50:06,560 --> 03:50:11,480
Speaker 14: the draft. Me too, super excited about our fourths pick.

5135
03:50:11,800 --> 03:50:14,200
Speaker 14: I think he's going to be a stud. However, I

5136
03:50:14,320 --> 03:50:17,160
Speaker 14: do think, you know, we do need some dynamic players

5137
03:50:17,200 --> 03:50:20,160
Speaker 14: to the point of the guy who called earlier and

5138
03:50:20,280 --> 03:50:22,000
Speaker 14: Dante would have been sort of an out of the

5139
03:50:22,080 --> 03:50:26,680
Speaker 14: box pick. So where do you see them going in

5140
03:50:26,760 --> 03:50:31,960
Speaker 14: the second round? Try to achieve that getting someone that's dynamic.

5141
03:50:32,120 --> 03:50:34,200
Speaker 14: Is are there any available players that you think they

5142
03:50:34,280 --> 03:50:39,640
Speaker 14: can go to meet that status a game breaking type player?

5143
03:50:41,160 --> 03:50:43,960
Speaker 6: Yeah? Absolutely. I mean I'll have best available at the

5144
03:50:44,080 --> 03:50:46,000
Speaker 6: end of the night. You know, for day two, I

5145
03:50:47,040 --> 03:50:49,120
Speaker 6: could say Luther Burden right now and I'll go to

5146
03:50:49,280 --> 03:50:51,760
Speaker 6: Washington right so I would like to see at the

5147
03:50:51,840 --> 03:50:54,120
Speaker 6: end of the night. But you know, Burden's obviously when

5148
03:50:54,120 --> 03:50:56,560
Speaker 6: we've talked a lot about tonight, Knowle's another one we've

5149
03:50:56,600 --> 03:50:59,120
Speaker 6: talked a lot about tonight. You know, Kyle Williams from

5150
03:50:59,240 --> 03:51:02,200
Speaker 6: Washington States, another four to four you know, speed type

5151
03:51:02,240 --> 03:51:05,120
Speaker 6: of receiver that's a game breaker. Caller called in about

5152
03:51:05,160 --> 03:51:08,160
Speaker 6: Trevon Henderson Quinn Shawn Jukins, you know, his teammate out

5153
03:51:08,200 --> 03:51:12,160
Speaker 6: of Ohio State. Two backs with a really great explosiveness

5154
03:51:12,240 --> 03:51:16,440
Speaker 6: and great speed as well, big playability. Uh, Dylan Samson

5155
03:51:16,480 --> 03:51:20,400
Speaker 6: from Tennessee. Like, there's there's explosive guys, there's playmakers on

5156
03:51:20,520 --> 03:51:25,200
Speaker 6: offense still available. I'm not at all like worried that

5157
03:51:25,280 --> 03:51:27,440
Speaker 6: they've missed the boat on that at all.

5158
03:51:28,120 --> 03:51:29,920
Speaker 2: One of the Scataboo's still on the board.

5159
03:51:30,280 --> 03:51:32,320
Speaker 6: Scatta, we might be there at one of six.

5160
03:51:33,760 --> 03:51:39,920
Speaker 7: Josh Connolly, All right, thanks, thanks for the call.

5161
03:51:40,960 --> 03:51:41,960
Speaker 2: Sayn went to the.

5162
03:51:41,960 --> 03:51:45,280
Speaker 7: Conny went to the commanders, so that that bumps Brandon

5163
03:51:45,360 --> 03:51:49,560
Speaker 7: Coleman officially inside, I guess go inside.

5164
03:51:49,760 --> 03:51:52,440
Speaker 6: Yeah, well, so ten they trade for Tunzel right.

5165
03:51:52,560 --> 03:51:55,720
Speaker 7: Uns and and Connory. You know, there's no need to

5166
03:51:55,800 --> 03:51:56,600
Speaker 7: even think about it.

5167
03:51:56,640 --> 03:51:58,080
Speaker 6: So I would assume that they're going to try to

5168
03:51:58,120 --> 03:52:01,560
Speaker 6: play connorly at right tackle, and it was not pretty

5169
03:52:01,600 --> 03:52:03,320
Speaker 6: at the Senior Bowl with him at right tackle. Like

5170
03:52:03,400 --> 03:52:05,440
Speaker 6: that's the clip that went around with Mike Green running

5171
03:52:05,480 --> 03:52:08,400
Speaker 6: them over. Is him playing right tackle like which everybody

5172
03:52:08,520 --> 03:52:11,480
Speaker 6: kind of said, well, it's not his position. He plays

5173
03:52:11,560 --> 03:52:13,120
Speaker 6: left tackle, so he's playing out a position.

5174
03:52:13,280 --> 03:52:16,000
Speaker 7: They also could look at as you know, what are

5175
03:52:16,000 --> 03:52:17,720
Speaker 7: you gonna get another? You may get a year or.

5176
03:52:17,680 --> 03:52:20,240
Speaker 6: Two of them, and maybe he plays right to start

5177
03:52:20,280 --> 03:52:22,040
Speaker 6: and then flips back over once tons.

5178
03:52:22,000 --> 03:52:27,000
Speaker 5: Moves has been left the whole time as he's tackle.

5179
03:52:27,520 --> 03:52:30,640
Speaker 2: Bills around the clock. Who are the Bills interested?

5180
03:52:30,720 --> 03:52:34,480
Speaker 6: Their fans really wanted them to take interior defensive line.

5181
03:52:35,400 --> 03:52:39,520
Speaker 5: They're funny, They're dying. These are my people.

5182
03:52:40,480 --> 03:52:41,920
Speaker 2: I'm telling you so funny.

5183
03:52:43,120 --> 03:52:45,280
Speaker 6: I was actually joking with a couple of them. Uh,

5184
03:52:45,760 --> 03:52:49,200
Speaker 6: I'm friends with being like interior defensive line like that.

5185
03:52:49,440 --> 03:52:51,760
Speaker 6: Like they're all like like we're pounding the table for

5186
03:52:51,880 --> 03:52:55,720
Speaker 6: offensive line. They're we need stuff, we need.

5187
03:52:55,880 --> 03:53:01,600
Speaker 7: Now all the Bills. Yeah, just let Josh Allen you know,

5188
03:53:01,760 --> 03:53:05,800
Speaker 7: have Khalil Shakir and Luther Burden just like skitter scatting

5189
03:53:05,840 --> 03:53:06,920
Speaker 7: around all over the place.

5190
03:53:07,360 --> 03:53:09,640
Speaker 6: Yeah, I hear you. I think it's funny, you know,

5191
03:53:10,000 --> 03:53:12,880
Speaker 6: like that that that's what they're clamoring for. But just

5192
03:53:13,000 --> 03:53:16,200
Speaker 6: in general, like in all seriously like defense, like and

5193
03:53:16,520 --> 03:53:17,600
Speaker 6: I think their defense.

5194
03:53:18,080 --> 03:53:20,320
Speaker 7: Defense, and the one thing I would say is if

5195
03:53:21,000 --> 03:53:24,120
Speaker 7: Will Johnson can run. I mean, clearly there's some concerns

5196
03:53:24,120 --> 03:53:27,280
Speaker 7: about his name for him to be still on the board.

5197
03:53:27,320 --> 03:53:30,800
Speaker 7: If they feel good about his medicals, he'd be a

5198
03:53:30,840 --> 03:53:33,240
Speaker 7: good pick too, because they need they need secondary Hill.

5199
03:53:33,320 --> 03:53:33,480
Speaker 18: Yeah.

5200
03:53:33,480 --> 03:53:36,160
Speaker 6: Absolutely. I I just think, you know, the tables have

5201
03:53:36,280 --> 03:53:39,360
Speaker 6: turned with Buffalo in a lot of ways, but their

5202
03:53:39,520 --> 03:53:42,000
Speaker 6: mindset with Josh Allen is like, well Josh, we'll just

5203
03:53:42,360 --> 03:53:44,400
Speaker 6: he'll figure it out, right. We don't like we need

5204
03:53:44,600 --> 03:53:46,480
Speaker 6: like the defense has holes now we need the best

5205
03:53:46,520 --> 03:53:48,680
Speaker 6: year ever with nothing right. We need we need to

5206
03:53:48,720 --> 03:53:51,720
Speaker 6: fix the defense, like there's enough on offense with the

5207
03:53:51,840 --> 03:53:54,200
Speaker 6: MVP of the league that like will score points, Like

5208
03:53:54,600 --> 03:53:55,920
Speaker 6: the defense has a lot of holes.

5209
03:53:56,800 --> 03:54:01,760
Speaker 2: Trey's in Tampa. Hey, Trey, Hey, how y'all doing.

5210
03:54:01,920 --> 03:54:04,240
Speaker 39: Appreciate y'all letting me on. I don't know if y'all

5211
03:54:04,280 --> 03:54:06,280
Speaker 39: blocked my other number, so I had to call from

5212
03:54:06,280 --> 03:54:08,160
Speaker 39: a different phone. I was unable to get through. After

5213
03:54:08,200 --> 03:54:11,760
Speaker 39: my last falling preseason last year about spread talking about

5214
03:54:11,760 --> 03:54:14,200
Speaker 39: pile the other filling holes and creaming guys, I thought.

5215
03:54:14,000 --> 03:54:14,800
Speaker 16: I might have been blocked.

5216
03:54:14,880 --> 03:54:17,680
Speaker 39: I called off my other number got through, but my

5217
03:54:17,800 --> 03:54:20,120
Speaker 39: dream scenario for the rest of the draft is Luther

5218
03:54:20,200 --> 03:54:23,400
Speaker 39: Burden in the second round, we get Darius Sampson out

5219
03:54:23,400 --> 03:54:27,360
Speaker 39: of Tennessee and Josiah Stewart out of Michigan in the

5220
03:54:27,440 --> 03:54:30,280
Speaker 39: third round, and then going into the four beyond, walk

5221
03:54:30,320 --> 03:54:32,360
Speaker 39: out of and tuk me would be breaking off of

5222
03:54:32,480 --> 03:54:32,800
Speaker 39: me and.

5223
03:54:32,840 --> 03:54:33,840
Speaker 17: Then sign no Evan.

5224
03:54:34,680 --> 03:54:36,480
Speaker 16: But we did the full mister the off season.

5225
03:54:36,560 --> 03:54:38,000
Speaker 39: So I need you to show up the gilest of

5226
03:54:38,080 --> 03:54:40,240
Speaker 39: that CNX and Mossbowl and give you a review on

5227
03:54:40,320 --> 03:54:40,800
Speaker 39: the podcast.

5228
03:54:41,000 --> 03:54:43,200
Speaker 16: It won't be much talk about around that time, but

5229
03:54:43,600 --> 03:54:44,400
Speaker 16: I appreciate y'all.

5230
03:54:44,480 --> 03:54:47,000
Speaker 2: Let me fall in all right, Yeah, I didn't hit

5231
03:54:47,120 --> 03:54:50,480
Speaker 2: up the tray, you were not blocked.

5232
03:54:50,520 --> 03:54:50,800
Speaker 7: I will.

5233
03:54:50,960 --> 03:54:53,760
Speaker 6: I will definitely give a review of the Kendrick Lamar concert.

5234
03:54:55,360 --> 03:54:56,800
Speaker 5: You can take your day off afterwards.

5235
03:54:56,960 --> 03:54:59,600
Speaker 6: Taken the day off afterwards, and I'm thinking that I

5236
03:54:59,720 --> 03:55:02,920
Speaker 6: might take the train in on the special event train

5237
03:55:04,160 --> 03:55:06,600
Speaker 6: from South Station and then come into.

5238
03:55:07,800 --> 03:55:08,360
Speaker 2: Putting one on.

5239
03:55:09,000 --> 03:55:10,560
Speaker 7: Well, this is like taking the day.

5240
03:55:10,960 --> 03:55:14,200
Speaker 6: This is my this is my favorite artist because he

5241
03:55:14,200 --> 03:55:16,400
Speaker 6: who should not be named is no longer acceptable to

5242
03:55:16,480 --> 03:55:18,880
Speaker 6: be my favorite artist. So this is my number one

5243
03:55:18,960 --> 03:55:20,760
Speaker 6: favorite artist in music right now.

5244
03:55:21,960 --> 03:55:22,840
Speaker 2: Easy, easy.

5245
03:55:24,320 --> 03:55:26,000
Speaker 7: I was I was going to say something else, but

5246
03:55:26,080 --> 03:55:27,400
Speaker 7: I probably should bring his name up.

5247
03:55:29,280 --> 03:55:30,600
Speaker 2: Let's go to Toronto.

5248
03:55:30,920 --> 03:55:37,960
Speaker 38: Hey Kirk, Hello, Hi, Hey, how's it going. I really

5249
03:55:38,120 --> 03:55:41,760
Speaker 38: like a pick tonight. I just want to start saying, Hey,

5250
03:55:42,320 --> 03:55:45,880
Speaker 38: I met you guys in Mexico. I met Fred in Mexico,

5251
03:55:46,320 --> 03:55:47,560
Speaker 38: and I think Mike was there.

5252
03:55:47,480 --> 03:55:48,400
Speaker 14: Too, and a couple of it.

5253
03:55:49,000 --> 03:55:50,320
Speaker 5: And I remember being in Mexico.

5254
03:55:50,800 --> 03:55:54,080
Speaker 2: Okay, I drunk, I did.

5255
03:55:54,560 --> 03:55:58,280
Speaker 16: I did meet Fred and uh in the hotel.

5256
03:55:57,960 --> 03:55:59,800
Speaker 2: Lobby in Mexico City.

5257
03:56:00,840 --> 03:56:05,240
Speaker 38: Yeah, Mexico City for still game. But yeah, I think

5258
03:56:05,320 --> 03:56:08,680
Speaker 38: the pick is a great pick. I thought that my

5259
03:56:08,760 --> 03:56:11,800
Speaker 38: first choice was the trade back, and second was to

5260
03:56:11,840 --> 03:56:15,120
Speaker 38: get Will Campbell and third was Jen. But I think

5261
03:56:15,160 --> 03:56:17,240
Speaker 38: there's a lot of I know, a lot of the

5262
03:56:17,360 --> 03:56:21,920
Speaker 38: fans out there wondering about the you know what playmakers

5263
03:56:22,040 --> 03:56:24,200
Speaker 38: we can get. There's a there's lots of them.

5264
03:56:24,600 --> 03:56:25,920
Speaker 16: As far as pass.

5265
03:56:25,760 --> 03:56:29,640
Speaker 13: Catches, Uh, I like Jayden Higgins, also.

5266
03:56:29,520 --> 03:56:34,960
Speaker 38: Like Kyle Williams, Jaleen Noyle and later on David Streppo

5267
03:56:35,000 --> 03:56:38,240
Speaker 38: even though he's not too fast, and Harold Fanning Jr.

5268
03:56:39,360 --> 03:56:42,320
Speaker 7: Yeah, and like all those guys.

5269
03:56:45,320 --> 03:56:48,920
Speaker 38: As far as far as running backs, I think, uh,

5270
03:56:49,360 --> 03:56:54,720
Speaker 38: there's a little so deep Cam Skata Bowl and R. J.

5271
03:56:54,960 --> 03:56:59,720
Speaker 38: Harvey and also very late even uh jar kids.

5272
03:57:01,120 --> 03:57:04,320
Speaker 6: Yeah, I don't know Auburn. Yeah, we're all really good names.

5273
03:57:04,400 --> 03:57:05,120
Speaker 7: I didn't know that one.

5274
03:57:05,320 --> 03:57:09,760
Speaker 6: Uh all really good names. I think, what's uh, what's

5275
03:57:09,800 --> 03:57:12,480
Speaker 6: fascinating to me? You know you mentioned both both Iowa

5276
03:57:12,520 --> 03:57:16,120
Speaker 6: state receivers, and one's an inside guy, one's an outside guy.

5277
03:57:16,240 --> 03:57:18,800
Speaker 6: One's six foot four, one's five to eleven, you know,

5278
03:57:18,880 --> 03:57:21,760
Speaker 6: a buck ninety. Like what is their type?

5279
03:57:22,000 --> 03:57:22,120
Speaker 5: Now?

5280
03:57:22,320 --> 03:57:24,200
Speaker 6: Like, what what's what are they targeting? You know, what

5281
03:57:24,360 --> 03:57:26,600
Speaker 6: kind of receiver are they looking for? Because I think

5282
03:57:26,680 --> 03:57:29,560
Speaker 6: both those players on my are very very equal, like

5283
03:57:29,600 --> 03:57:32,600
Speaker 6: they're graded out very very equally. And so now it's

5284
03:57:32,640 --> 03:57:34,440
Speaker 6: at the point where it's just, you know, do you

5285
03:57:34,520 --> 03:57:37,320
Speaker 6: want the big outside guy or do you want you know,

5286
03:57:37,600 --> 03:57:41,080
Speaker 6: a true separator like Jalen Knowle. So it would be

5287
03:57:41,160 --> 03:57:43,080
Speaker 6: interesting to see what what they go for if they,

5288
03:57:43,200 --> 03:57:44,520
Speaker 6: you know, draft one of those guys.

5289
03:57:46,480 --> 03:57:49,280
Speaker 2: All right, John and La writes in the Bill Selections

5290
03:57:49,360 --> 03:57:54,560
Speaker 2: in John and La says, I'm having PTSD pre traumatic

5291
03:57:54,680 --> 03:57:58,120
Speaker 2: stress disorder. That case will steal luthor burden from us.

5292
03:57:58,400 --> 03:58:00,800
Speaker 2: I think Rabel expects to have alture that can handle

5293
03:58:00,840 --> 03:58:04,040
Speaker 2: a diva wide receiver fingers crossed love the Draft show

5294
03:58:04,560 --> 03:58:08,760
Speaker 2: and the throw to Alex was iconic, iconic. I'm on

5295
03:58:08,880 --> 03:58:13,000
Speaker 2: board with Bill Campbell LFG. Okay, who's the Bills take

5296
03:58:13,080 --> 03:58:13,440
Speaker 2: the Bills?

5297
03:58:13,520 --> 03:58:17,280
Speaker 6: We don't know. The Eagles did jump Kansas City, which

5298
03:58:17,320 --> 03:58:20,440
Speaker 6: is interesting. So maybe the Kansas City was gonna was

5299
03:58:20,480 --> 03:58:22,320
Speaker 6: getting calls to move out of the first round, and

5300
03:58:22,400 --> 03:58:25,880
Speaker 6: Philly said, well, we want our guys, so they they

5301
03:58:26,040 --> 03:58:28,760
Speaker 6: swapped picks. So the Eagles are now they could go

5302
03:58:28,920 --> 03:58:31,480
Speaker 6: for Burden of course, because.

5303
03:58:31,240 --> 03:58:33,160
Speaker 5: And then they'll trade j Brown to the Patriots, right,

5304
03:58:33,400 --> 03:58:34,320
Speaker 5: you know, that's.

5305
03:58:34,200 --> 03:58:37,720
Speaker 7: How it works. Make it so the Eagles are trading

5306
03:58:37,840 --> 03:58:40,520
Speaker 7: thirty two and one sixty four to the Chiefs for

5307
03:58:40,680 --> 03:58:44,040
Speaker 7: thirty one, So one sixty four to move up a spot,

5308
03:58:45,080 --> 03:58:45,760
Speaker 7: that's not too bad.

5309
03:58:46,120 --> 03:58:49,840
Speaker 6: So the Bills took Maxwell Harriston the cornerback from Kentucky.

5310
03:58:50,360 --> 03:58:55,800
Speaker 7: Sah yeah, then gets by Paul Yeah, a good player,

5311
03:58:56,440 --> 03:58:57,120
Speaker 7: fast corner.

5312
03:58:57,280 --> 03:58:59,560
Speaker 6: Really kind of rose up the board here a little

5313
03:58:59,600 --> 03:59:03,680
Speaker 6: bit to this uh spot. I would I'll give the

5314
03:59:03,760 --> 03:59:05,680
Speaker 6: Bills credit for you know, a couple of years ago

5315
03:59:05,720 --> 03:59:07,960
Speaker 6: they took Kyrie Elam in the first round. It was

5316
03:59:08,000 --> 03:59:12,200
Speaker 6: like a physical pressman corner that they drafted to play

5317
03:59:12,200 --> 03:59:14,560
Speaker 6: in his own scheme, which I'd never understood, Like I

5318
03:59:14,800 --> 03:59:18,040
Speaker 6: didn't understand why they would do that. Maxwell Harriston is

5319
03:59:18,120 --> 03:59:20,120
Speaker 6: his own corner that they drafted to play zone. So

5320
03:59:20,240 --> 03:59:23,560
Speaker 6: this one definitely fits their style of defense and what

5321
03:59:23,680 --> 03:59:25,240
Speaker 6: they want to do. He ran a four to eight

5322
03:59:25,320 --> 03:59:28,200
Speaker 6: in the forty yard dash. Is a really fast player

5323
03:59:28,240 --> 03:59:32,320
Speaker 6: as well. But I totally understand this from Buffalo's standpoint.

5324
03:59:32,360 --> 03:59:35,680
Speaker 6: Fills a need. Style of player fits. Uh, this is

5325
03:59:35,720 --> 03:59:37,720
Speaker 6: a This is the first time in the while that

5326
03:59:37,760 --> 03:59:40,520
Speaker 6: I've actually liked a Bills pick. I think they've I

5327
03:59:40,680 --> 03:59:40,840
Speaker 6: liked the.

5328
03:59:40,840 --> 03:59:43,160
Speaker 7: Way he just you know, you guys like to talk

5329
03:59:43,200 --> 03:59:44,400
Speaker 7: about the reaction.

5330
03:59:44,760 --> 03:59:47,400
Speaker 2: Yeah that was to touch the logo.

5331
03:59:47,560 --> 03:59:48,000
Speaker 34: I like that.

5332
03:59:48,360 --> 03:59:49,160
Speaker 2: Yeah that's good.

5333
03:59:49,320 --> 03:59:52,080
Speaker 5: Too bad he's gonna like Starks with his mom to

5334
03:59:52,160 --> 03:59:54,760
Speaker 5: why he assume it was his mother, you know, like

5335
03:59:56,240 --> 03:59:56,800
Speaker 5: May December.

5336
03:59:59,120 --> 04:00:00,680
Speaker 7: That was That was kind of a cool moment too,

5337
04:00:00,800 --> 04:00:01,840
Speaker 7: Like if we're just talking about it.

5338
04:00:01,920 --> 04:00:04,600
Speaker 5: I know, well that's and that's what I said, Like, yeah,

5339
04:00:04,880 --> 04:00:07,200
Speaker 5: I look forward to hating Maxwell Harriston when he's playing

5340
04:00:07,200 --> 04:00:08,720
Speaker 5: for the Bills in a few months, but like for now,

5341
04:00:08,760 --> 04:00:10,800
Speaker 5: I can appreciate like this is great.

5342
04:00:10,600 --> 04:00:12,400
Speaker 7: You know, like the beauty of me is. By the

5343
04:00:12,480 --> 04:00:14,960
Speaker 7: time the season rolls around, I'll forget that. Maxwell Hairston

5344
04:00:15,080 --> 04:00:18,200
Speaker 7: was a person let alone to his mom, let alone.

5345
04:00:18,240 --> 04:00:23,080
Speaker 7: A first round pick, all right, So that's the Bills pick.

5346
04:00:23,440 --> 04:00:26,200
Speaker 7: So let's get into this little trade here. Let's get

5347
04:00:26,240 --> 04:00:26,560
Speaker 7: onto it.

5348
04:00:26,760 --> 04:00:29,520
Speaker 2: So it was going to be Kansas City at thirty

5349
04:00:29,560 --> 04:00:33,360
Speaker 2: one and Philly at thirty two, but Philly they swapped.

5350
04:00:33,800 --> 04:00:36,400
Speaker 2: So now it's Philly picking at thirty one with the

5351
04:00:36,480 --> 04:00:39,680
Speaker 2: Chiefs the last pick in the first round. Who is

5352
04:00:39,760 --> 04:00:42,240
Speaker 2: it that they I wonder if Mike Green the City

5353
04:00:42,360 --> 04:00:43,160
Speaker 2: was on the phone.

5354
04:00:42,960 --> 04:00:45,920
Speaker 5: With wonder, Oh, Mike Green they lost, you know, Joshua right, Like,

5355
04:00:46,200 --> 04:00:47,880
Speaker 5: is that you know, kneeding an edge?

5356
04:00:48,440 --> 04:00:52,400
Speaker 7: Philly's also not afraid always Burton pushed the envelo.

5357
04:00:53,800 --> 04:00:55,400
Speaker 2: You don't think it was us that was trying to

5358
04:00:55,480 --> 04:00:57,000
Speaker 2: move up that just got.

5359
04:00:58,280 --> 04:01:01,560
Speaker 5: I don't know, and then that would perhaps it could be,

5360
04:01:01,640 --> 04:01:04,600
Speaker 5: but I don't know, to be honest, I'd be surprised

5361
04:01:04,640 --> 04:01:08,040
Speaker 5: if they moved up. For for who's there right now? Yeah,

5362
04:01:08,160 --> 04:01:11,560
Speaker 5: I just don't disrespect to Burden. I think he's you know,

5363
04:01:11,720 --> 04:01:14,160
Speaker 5: has a lot of what they need. But I think

5364
04:01:14,200 --> 04:01:18,400
Speaker 5: everything Evan said just an extensive resources, a guy that

5365
04:01:18,480 --> 04:01:21,080
Speaker 5: maybe has some question marks. You're trying to rebuild the program.

5366
04:01:21,200 --> 04:01:24,280
Speaker 5: I don't know that. I'm gonna say they're probably gonna

5367
04:01:24,280 --> 04:01:24,680
Speaker 5: stay put.

5368
04:01:25,840 --> 04:01:28,000
Speaker 7: I just thought that is not the reason, that's all.

5369
04:01:28,280 --> 04:01:30,000
Speaker 6: I thought it was iffy that he would even be

5370
04:01:30,120 --> 04:01:32,160
Speaker 6: on their board to begin with, and so did have

5371
04:01:32,280 --> 04:01:35,120
Speaker 6: them trade up for the player. Now, if they they

5372
04:01:35,280 --> 04:01:37,920
Speaker 6: sit there tomorrow night and Luther Burden falls to thirty

5373
04:01:37,960 --> 04:01:40,160
Speaker 6: eight and he's just sitting there like, you might have

5374
04:01:40,320 --> 04:01:42,560
Speaker 6: to just throw out the fact that you think he's

5375
04:01:42,600 --> 04:01:44,120
Speaker 6: a little bit of a diva and make the pick.

5376
04:01:44,200 --> 04:01:45,680
Speaker 7: So I'm going to lean on you guys, because you

5377
04:01:45,760 --> 04:01:47,680
Speaker 7: guys know this stuff. You guys told me about Isaiah

5378
04:01:47,720 --> 04:01:49,760
Speaker 7: Bond today, I was like a whole week behind. Right,

5379
04:01:49,840 --> 04:01:53,480
Speaker 7: that's a tough one. No, that's a whole different thing. Though.

5380
04:01:54,360 --> 04:01:56,840
Speaker 7: If that's what we're talking if we're talking about that's

5381
04:01:56,960 --> 04:02:01,040
Speaker 7: why he's off someone's board, like he'd be off my board.

5382
04:02:01,080 --> 04:02:03,200
Speaker 7: Fred will tell you, I like my team would stink.

5383
04:02:03,320 --> 04:02:04,960
Speaker 5: Yeah, a little bit of a diva though, you know.

5384
04:02:07,000 --> 04:02:10,000
Speaker 7: Of America. No, no, no, Isaiah Bond had like a

5385
04:02:11,360 --> 04:02:13,960
Speaker 7: sexual assaulting or something like, so like that I want

5386
04:02:14,040 --> 04:02:17,600
Speaker 7: no part of. But if Luther Burden's like issues at

5387
04:02:17,680 --> 04:02:21,400
Speaker 7: Missouri last year, like he was kind of difficult fight

5388
04:02:21,560 --> 04:02:24,760
Speaker 7: in a diva and that's why you're off the board,

5389
04:02:25,080 --> 04:02:27,680
Speaker 7: I'm not on board with that. Like that to me

5390
04:02:27,840 --> 04:02:31,240
Speaker 7: is something Yeah, you know he's he's he's got some

5391
04:02:31,360 --> 04:02:34,400
Speaker 7: maturing to do, and we're a good culture fit for that.

5392
04:02:34,560 --> 04:02:37,160
Speaker 7: We we we bring those players in, Like that's why

5393
04:02:37,720 --> 04:02:40,520
Speaker 7: you know, Randy Moss came here, who supposedly didn't like

5394
04:02:40,600 --> 04:02:43,800
Speaker 7: football anymore and set the all time NFL touchdown record

5395
04:02:43,960 --> 04:02:47,600
Speaker 7: receiving record in a single season. And Mike Vrabel himself

5396
04:02:47,760 --> 04:02:51,840
Speaker 7: talked glowingly about Randy Moss before that, remember when that

5397
04:02:52,200 --> 04:02:54,240
Speaker 7: clip that made the rounds, you know, when he was

5398
04:02:54,280 --> 04:02:56,920
Speaker 7: still a player. So I would I would be disappointed,

5399
04:02:57,080 --> 04:02:59,040
Speaker 7: not if they didn't trade up because of it, but

5400
04:02:59,120 --> 04:03:01,520
Speaker 7: if they had him off his off the board because

5401
04:03:01,560 --> 04:03:02,560
Speaker 7: of being a diva.

5402
04:03:02,760 --> 04:03:04,920
Speaker 5: Right, that was a big point spectrum of that too

5403
04:03:05,040 --> 04:03:06,880
Speaker 5: though of like yeah, he's a diva. But then there's

5404
04:03:06,920 --> 04:03:08,840
Speaker 5: also just like he just doesn't like football, he doesn't

5405
04:03:08,880 --> 04:03:10,880
Speaker 5: really get it. He's more talented than everybody, he doesn't

5406
04:03:10,920 --> 04:03:13,000
Speaker 5: really have any interest in working at it when it

5407
04:03:13,040 --> 04:03:16,280
Speaker 5: comes to him. That would just if you put.

5408
04:03:16,240 --> 04:03:18,040
Speaker 7: Him off the board because of that, Like I want

5409
04:03:18,080 --> 04:03:20,640
Speaker 7: to work with talented guys and get him on the

5410
04:03:20,720 --> 04:03:23,640
Speaker 7: right page. Like that's all. Like I don't necessarily I'm

5411
04:03:23,640 --> 04:03:25,120
Speaker 7: not telling you I want to trade up for him,

5412
04:03:25,600 --> 04:03:26,760
Speaker 7: like I want to go out of you know, like

5413
04:03:27,400 --> 04:03:28,840
Speaker 7: I want to go out of my way to get.

5414
04:03:28,720 --> 04:03:30,880
Speaker 5: There's a certain point where that value you don't.

5415
04:03:30,720 --> 04:03:32,160
Speaker 7: Care and you're just going to do I just want

5416
04:03:32,200 --> 04:03:34,320
Speaker 7: the talent, and I want to say what he plays.

5417
04:03:34,360 --> 04:03:37,040
Speaker 7: He plays like Abdual Carter, Like that's what people were

5418
04:03:37,080 --> 04:03:37,760
Speaker 7: talking about him.

5419
04:03:38,040 --> 04:03:40,080
Speaker 6: Yeah. A lot of the things that you hear about

5420
04:03:40,120 --> 04:03:44,480
Speaker 6: with Burden are just you know, Monday through Saturday. He's

5421
04:03:44,520 --> 04:03:45,880
Speaker 6: not going to be a hard He's not going to

5422
04:03:45,960 --> 04:03:48,120
Speaker 6: practice hard. He's not going to study hard. He's not

5423
04:03:48,200 --> 04:03:49,760
Speaker 6: going to work out, he's not going to show up

5424
04:03:49,760 --> 04:03:52,240
Speaker 6: at the facility early. Like he's just not a rat,

5425
04:03:52,320 --> 04:03:55,320
Speaker 6: you know, he's not a gym rat about it. Yeah,

5426
04:03:55,360 --> 04:03:57,960
Speaker 6: because the Eagles, just like the Ravens, will just continue

5427
04:03:58,000 --> 04:03:59,880
Speaker 6: to just draft good players and have them fault to

5428
04:03:59,880 --> 04:04:04,320
Speaker 6: them at the end of the first round. With Burden,

5429
04:04:04,400 --> 04:04:06,920
Speaker 6: you know, you also hear a lot about last year,

5430
04:04:06,960 --> 04:04:09,840
Speaker 6: and it didn't go as planned, like for the entire program,

5431
04:04:09,960 --> 04:04:12,520
Speaker 6: Like it wasn't just him, but he had a bad year.

5432
04:04:12,640 --> 04:04:15,200
Speaker 6: Brady Cooked, the quarterback at Missouri, had an awful year

5433
04:04:15,720 --> 04:04:17,680
Speaker 6: and his stats weren't the same as the twenty twenty

5434
04:04:17,720 --> 04:04:19,880
Speaker 6: three season. He took a big step back, yep. And

5435
04:04:20,120 --> 04:04:23,800
Speaker 6: so there's there's questions just about what went wrong at

5436
04:04:23,840 --> 04:04:26,440
Speaker 6: Missouri last year. Well, you know, he I think the

5437
04:04:26,560 --> 04:04:29,680
Speaker 6: comparisons that you hear about, you know, from a character

5438
04:04:29,760 --> 04:04:32,320
Speaker 6: standpoint a lot, like you hear a lot about deva

5439
04:04:32,400 --> 04:04:34,960
Speaker 6: receiver here here, Odell Beckham, right, like guys like that,

5440
04:04:35,160 --> 04:04:37,440
Speaker 6: you know, maybe a little bit of Stefan Diggs, like,

5441
04:04:37,720 --> 04:04:40,800
Speaker 6: you know, things like that. And that's that's what teams

5442
04:04:40,840 --> 04:04:43,120
Speaker 6: have been concerned about, you know, coupled with the fact

5443
04:04:43,160 --> 04:04:46,800
Speaker 6: that the year last year was by his standards, kind

5444
04:04:46,800 --> 04:04:48,160
Speaker 6: of a disaster, honestly, Like.

5445
04:04:48,480 --> 04:04:50,760
Speaker 7: He just finally took a step back. And he's a

5446
04:04:50,800 --> 04:04:53,040
Speaker 7: guy that I really really liked, and I watched a

5447
04:04:53,080 --> 04:04:54,800
Speaker 7: little bit last year because I had liked him from

5448
04:04:54,840 --> 04:04:57,280
Speaker 7: the previous year. They played BC early in the season,

5449
04:04:57,320 --> 04:04:58,920
Speaker 7: I got a chance to watch him. He played well

5450
04:04:59,000 --> 04:05:04,520
Speaker 7: in that game. But I just like Evan just rattled

5451
04:05:04,520 --> 04:05:06,720
Speaker 7: off a couple of names, like I would take Odell

5452
04:05:06,760 --> 04:05:09,200
Speaker 7: Beckham and Stefan Diggs coming into the draft in a

5453
04:05:09,240 --> 04:05:14,960
Speaker 7: heartbeat with these kinds of diva character issues, you know,

5454
04:05:15,160 --> 04:05:17,960
Speaker 7: like that. I can live with that. Now if he

5455
04:05:18,000 --> 04:05:20,840
Speaker 7: did things off the field that I don't want, you know,

5456
04:05:20,920 --> 04:05:23,280
Speaker 7: I don't want to put in my program. You know, guns,

5457
04:05:24,240 --> 04:05:28,280
Speaker 7: you know, drugs, you know, obviously violence against women. I

5458
04:05:28,320 --> 04:05:30,280
Speaker 7: don't want those, those them, you know, Fred says I

5459
04:05:30,400 --> 04:05:32,680
Speaker 7: want all boy scouts. Yeah, No, I think I can

5460
04:05:32,760 --> 04:05:36,280
Speaker 7: find enough players that don't have lengthy criminal rental records.

5461
04:05:36,560 --> 04:05:40,520
Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm just kind of interested in drafting Campbell though.

5462
04:05:40,520 --> 04:05:42,960
Speaker 5: For the Eagles, where they had Zach Bond breakout year

5463
04:05:43,040 --> 04:05:46,760
Speaker 5: last year, resign him. You still got Dean Kobe, Dean

5464
04:05:46,960 --> 04:05:48,000
Speaker 5: coming back from an injury.

5465
04:05:48,000 --> 04:05:49,840
Speaker 7: If you get injury though, maybe they're worried about him.

5466
04:05:49,880 --> 04:05:52,400
Speaker 7: So maybe they also had a ton of Injuriesane Hot

5467
04:05:52,440 --> 04:05:54,640
Speaker 7: a little bit off the edge, a little bit like

5468
04:05:54,720 --> 04:05:57,320
Speaker 7: he did. Yeah, just an interesting player, I mean, but

5469
04:05:57,480 --> 04:05:59,800
Speaker 7: not an obvious Oh, they have a higher rate of

5470
04:06:00,520 --> 04:06:03,600
Speaker 7: everybody's board. So Mike Green is probably the only other one.

5471
04:06:04,160 --> 04:06:07,640
Speaker 6: Yeah, so Gi haid Campbell had a shoulder injury that

5472
04:06:07,920 --> 04:06:09,960
Speaker 6: he just got surgery on. He tried to go through

5473
04:06:10,040 --> 04:06:13,400
Speaker 6: the pre draft process first and do all the workouts

5474
04:06:13,400 --> 04:06:14,840
Speaker 6: and all that kind of stuff, and then he had

5475
04:06:14,880 --> 04:06:18,600
Speaker 6: so shoulder surgery. So most people think that he's going

5476
04:06:18,680 --> 04:06:20,680
Speaker 6: to start the year on pup and maybe it might

5477
04:06:20,760 --> 04:06:22,680
Speaker 6: not play right away out of the gate. But if

5478
04:06:22,720 --> 04:06:24,600
Speaker 6: you're the Eagles, like, what are you worried about that?

5479
04:06:24,800 --> 04:06:25,280
Speaker 1: For right?

5480
04:06:25,400 --> 04:06:27,360
Speaker 7: Like you have all the leaders know what kinds of

5481
04:06:27,400 --> 04:06:29,600
Speaker 7: picks the Patriots used to make routine now because they

5482
04:06:29,680 --> 04:06:31,960
Speaker 7: could and Harvey Roseman's not going anywhere.

5483
04:06:32,080 --> 04:06:34,000
Speaker 5: I have such a different guy doesn't work out. I

5484
04:06:34,080 --> 04:06:36,480
Speaker 5: have such a different perspective now on how the draft

5485
04:06:36,560 --> 04:06:38,560
Speaker 5: kind of works because I realized, as much as it's

5486
04:06:38,600 --> 04:06:41,200
Speaker 5: hard to be in the twenties and have to watch

5487
04:06:41,240 --> 04:06:43,360
Speaker 5: the draft unfold, it also just kind of makes your

5488
04:06:43,400 --> 04:06:46,600
Speaker 5: decision easy where oh yeah, guess what this awesome linebacker is,

5489
04:06:46,600 --> 04:06:48,280
Speaker 5: the one who made it through the gauntlet and fell

5490
04:06:48,320 --> 04:06:50,040
Speaker 5: to you. You never could have staft for the last

5491
04:06:50,080 --> 04:06:52,280
Speaker 5: two months and been like, I want Campbell at thirty one.

5492
04:06:52,320 --> 04:06:55,760
Speaker 5: I want Campbell a thirty one. Vince will right, you're

5493
04:06:55,800 --> 04:06:58,760
Speaker 5: able to sit back, and but it's also it seems

5494
04:06:58,840 --> 04:07:01,160
Speaker 5: like if you start missing on those picks, it can

5495
04:07:01,240 --> 04:07:03,840
Speaker 5: start to rattle up fast because you're picking lower and

5496
04:07:04,320 --> 04:07:06,080
Speaker 5: all of a sudden you are left with some of

5497
04:07:06,120 --> 04:07:08,240
Speaker 5: the leftover. So if you're picking the wrong leftover as

5498
04:07:08,240 --> 04:07:09,720
Speaker 5: you get into the position like the Patriots.

5499
04:07:09,800 --> 04:07:11,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, and if you're picking in lower twenties, it you're

5500
04:07:11,760 --> 04:07:14,120
Speaker 2: probably a good team. Question is how long are you

5501
04:07:14,160 --> 04:07:15,040
Speaker 2: going to stay a good thing?

5502
04:07:16,280 --> 04:07:18,360
Speaker 7: Who do you think that might have been interested in

5503
04:07:18,640 --> 04:07:22,040
Speaker 7: that guy Campbell that caused the Eagles.

5504
04:07:21,680 --> 04:07:22,800
Speaker 5: To Oh, I don't know.

5505
04:07:23,480 --> 04:07:25,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, somebody was obviously, Yeah.

5506
04:07:25,840 --> 04:07:27,480
Speaker 5: Definitely, I mean I can see why. I mean, it

5507
04:07:27,520 --> 04:07:30,120
Speaker 5: makes it makes sense. He could fit probably just about anybody.

5508
04:07:30,160 --> 04:07:31,920
Speaker 7: No, I mean, Campbell's a good player. But I just

5509
04:07:32,080 --> 04:07:35,480
Speaker 7: wonder if people think he's going to start on pup. Yeah,

5510
04:07:36,360 --> 04:07:39,120
Speaker 7: they had to have some a I mean, I know,

5511
04:07:39,200 --> 04:07:41,440
Speaker 7: it's only the one hundred and sixty fourth pick. What's

5512
04:07:41,520 --> 04:07:46,400
Speaker 7: that like, fourth round or fifth rounder? Fifth rounder? I guess, yeah,

5513
04:07:46,520 --> 04:07:48,280
Speaker 7: I'm lost. Yes, I'm tired.

5514
04:07:48,520 --> 04:07:49,760
Speaker 2: No, it could have been anybody.

5515
04:07:50,280 --> 04:07:52,400
Speaker 6: That's a good question. He's a really good player, and

5516
04:07:52,440 --> 04:07:55,520
Speaker 6: I don't think that the shoulder injury is necessarily like

5517
04:07:55,800 --> 04:07:58,880
Speaker 6: long term concern. But he's you know, like I said,

5518
04:07:58,920 --> 04:08:01,000
Speaker 6: he's probably going to not going to be healthy to

5519
04:08:01,080 --> 04:08:03,480
Speaker 6: start the year. But he's a top twenty player in

5520
04:08:03,520 --> 04:08:07,920
Speaker 6: the class. I mean, he's taking those sec guys. I

5521
04:08:08,000 --> 04:08:10,760
Speaker 6: compare him a little bit to Tremaine Edmunds. You know

5522
04:08:10,880 --> 04:08:15,560
Speaker 6: Bills now bears great athleticism, great coverage player, great in space,

5523
04:08:16,200 --> 04:08:19,080
Speaker 6: can rush a little bit off the edge. I just

5524
04:08:19,200 --> 04:08:20,720
Speaker 6: think that he's a heck of football player.

5525
04:08:20,720 --> 04:08:25,320
Speaker 2: All right, So the final pick, City Chiefs pick is

5526
04:08:25,360 --> 04:08:28,040
Speaker 2: in quickly. Let's get to a couple more phone calls

5527
04:08:28,080 --> 04:08:30,840
Speaker 2: before we wrap up. Get ready for tomorrow. Daves and

5528
04:08:30,880 --> 04:08:32,640
Speaker 2: the Philippines. What's up, Dave?

5529
04:08:34,040 --> 04:08:34,760
Speaker 18: Oh not much.

5530
04:08:35,240 --> 04:08:36,600
Speaker 2: How you guys doing all right?

5531
04:08:36,960 --> 04:08:39,160
Speaker 17: Great great show, great show.

5532
04:08:39,600 --> 04:08:41,920
Speaker 28: Just my first time calling in. I've been watching you

5533
04:08:41,960 --> 04:08:42,440
Speaker 28: all forever.

5534
04:08:42,720 --> 04:08:43,560
Speaker 7: Thank you, Thank you.

5535
04:08:44,920 --> 04:08:45,840
Speaker 28: First off, I'm.

5536
04:08:45,760 --> 04:08:48,080
Speaker 31: Really excited about the first pick.

5537
04:08:49,280 --> 04:08:49,880
Speaker 17: The way the.

5538
04:08:51,440 --> 04:08:53,760
Speaker 16: The kid's emotions were after.

5539
04:08:55,200 --> 04:08:57,920
Speaker 18: The pick and being interviewed, it got me exciting.

5540
04:08:58,440 --> 04:08:59,960
Speaker 28: That's what you like to see from somebody.

5541
04:09:00,080 --> 04:09:01,240
Speaker 16: Either get to picked.

5542
04:09:02,880 --> 04:09:08,000
Speaker 17: Knowing that the trade are difficult to come by, especially

5543
04:09:08,160 --> 04:09:08,800
Speaker 17: this season.

5544
04:09:09,240 --> 04:09:12,000
Speaker 18: Now we have what two picks in the second.

5545
04:09:11,800 --> 04:09:15,880
Speaker 2: Round, no one pick in the second round, two third.

5546
04:09:17,000 --> 04:09:20,480
Speaker 7: Okay, so it's thirty eight, sixty nine and seventy seven,

5547
04:09:20,560 --> 04:09:21,040
Speaker 7: I believe.

5548
04:09:21,600 --> 04:09:27,320
Speaker 18: Okay, then in the second round, mainly what would you

5549
04:09:27,920 --> 04:09:30,200
Speaker 18: like to see and who would you like to see

5550
04:09:30,280 --> 04:09:32,800
Speaker 18: them pick? And I'll take that off there.

5551
04:09:33,000 --> 04:09:33,960
Speaker 7: Okay, thanks Dave.

5552
04:09:35,200 --> 04:09:37,800
Speaker 2: So second round, Yeah, you're looking at I like, I

5553
04:09:38,400 --> 04:09:40,400
Speaker 2: kind of like would like to see them take a

5554
04:09:40,480 --> 04:09:44,440
Speaker 2: running back stick to offense unless Burden's there, you know,

5555
04:09:44,600 --> 04:09:49,480
Speaker 2: and his off field things don't, you know, preclude him

5556
04:09:49,480 --> 04:09:51,640
Speaker 2: from being taken. I'd like to see a wide receiver,

5557
04:09:51,800 --> 04:09:55,040
Speaker 2: but I think there might be more value at running

5558
04:09:55,080 --> 04:09:56,440
Speaker 2: back at that point.

5559
04:09:56,600 --> 04:09:57,360
Speaker 7: I don't know.

5560
04:09:57,560 --> 04:09:59,240
Speaker 5: Yeah, no, I think I think there's definitely value of

5561
04:09:59,320 --> 04:10:02,080
Speaker 5: running back right now. I like next Gordon. I've talked

5562
04:10:02,080 --> 04:10:04,960
Speaker 5: about him all spring. He's another top of the second round,

5563
04:10:05,040 --> 04:10:08,800
Speaker 5: kind of an edge guy that I think fits what they.

5564
04:10:08,760 --> 04:10:09,880
Speaker 7: Won't get off the defense.

5565
04:10:10,240 --> 04:10:12,080
Speaker 5: I know, but I think that's that's that's one of

5566
04:10:12,120 --> 04:10:12,920
Speaker 5: my guys right now.

5567
04:10:13,240 --> 04:10:13,440
Speaker 7: Yeah.

5568
04:10:13,920 --> 04:10:18,240
Speaker 6: Yeah, Donovan Azaruku is still there. But the BC kid, Yeah,

5569
04:10:18,320 --> 04:10:21,200
Speaker 6: the BC kid. You know, I think we've talked a

5570
04:10:21,280 --> 04:10:24,440
Speaker 6: lot about Doud you know, thirty eight, Like you're gonna

5571
04:10:24,480 --> 04:10:26,800
Speaker 6: be kind of in a group of edge rushers and

5572
04:10:26,840 --> 04:10:29,000
Speaker 6: defensive lineman. Like, that's just where the strength of the

5573
04:10:29,080 --> 04:10:32,440
Speaker 6: draft is at this point of the draft. So you know,

5574
04:10:32,560 --> 04:10:34,440
Speaker 6: as Iku is still going to be there. You know,

5575
04:10:34,520 --> 04:10:36,920
Speaker 6: Mike Green's probably off their board. Uh, Derek able to

5576
04:10:36,920 --> 04:10:40,320
Speaker 6: take Jack Sawyer, Darius Alexander. I think he's a little

5577
04:10:40,360 --> 04:10:44,320
Speaker 6: early for Jack Sawyer, but at that point, you know,

5578
04:10:44,480 --> 04:10:46,440
Speaker 6: maybe you could get into some of the receivers and

5579
04:10:46,800 --> 04:10:49,440
Speaker 6: tight ends too. I wouldn't rule out tight ends either,

5580
04:10:49,560 --> 04:10:53,680
Speaker 6: but you know that it's it's one of those spots

5581
04:10:53,680 --> 04:10:55,240
Speaker 6: where I think the talent is going to be there

5582
04:10:55,320 --> 04:10:59,120
Speaker 6: on defense once they get on the clock. But we'll see,

5583
04:10:59,320 --> 04:11:02,480
Speaker 6: I mean we'll we'll see, I'm sure.

5584
04:11:02,680 --> 04:11:03,560
Speaker 7: Is what's up? Real?

5585
04:11:05,480 --> 04:11:05,640
Speaker 1: Oh?

5586
04:11:06,120 --> 04:11:07,440
Speaker 43: Are you doing this evening, gentlemen?

5587
04:11:07,640 --> 04:11:10,560
Speaker 2: Ok? Yeah, big side.

5588
04:11:10,720 --> 04:11:13,200
Speaker 43: I just let out my third loud exploitive of the

5589
04:11:13,280 --> 04:11:16,240
Speaker 43: night when the Eagles took jo Hot Campbell. He and

5590
04:11:16,320 --> 04:11:19,080
Speaker 43: Gray's Abel were my two favorite players in this draft.

5591
04:11:19,200 --> 04:11:22,160
Speaker 43: But I just want to touch on a couple of

5592
04:11:22,200 --> 04:11:23,200
Speaker 43: points and ask a question.

5593
04:11:23,640 --> 04:11:24,400
Speaker 7: First is I.

5594
04:11:25,880 --> 04:11:28,440
Speaker 43: Talked with Evan on catch twenty two yesterday and he

5595
04:11:28,600 --> 04:11:30,560
Speaker 43: called me out a little bit about wanting to move

5596
04:11:30,600 --> 04:11:34,640
Speaker 43: out of that fourth spot. Uh, saying, you know, is

5597
04:11:34,880 --> 04:11:36,600
Speaker 43: that I don't like the player or I just didn't

5598
04:11:36,640 --> 04:11:40,160
Speaker 43: want to, you know, eat my vegetables and draft to tackle.

5599
04:11:40,480 --> 04:11:43,040
Speaker 43: And I'm a guy who's pounded the table for building

5600
04:11:43,120 --> 04:11:44,920
Speaker 43: in the trenches. So it's one hundred percent not that

5601
04:11:45,000 --> 04:11:46,640
Speaker 43: I just I don't care for the player that much,

5602
04:11:47,360 --> 04:11:49,880
Speaker 43: but you know, I gotta hope he's an all Pro

5603
04:11:50,000 --> 04:11:54,760
Speaker 43: tackle at this point. The second thing is this round

5604
04:11:54,800 --> 04:11:56,800
Speaker 43: two pick, Jaydon Higgins is there.

5605
04:11:56,880 --> 04:11:57,440
Speaker 7: He's my guy.

5606
04:11:57,600 --> 04:11:59,960
Speaker 43: I like him a lot. But two names I haven't

5607
04:12:00,120 --> 04:12:03,400
Speaker 43: heard brought up really at all connected to the Patriots,

5608
04:12:03,400 --> 04:12:05,640
Speaker 43: and I think especially the first one I'm gonna mention

5609
04:12:05,840 --> 04:12:07,480
Speaker 43: is going to be a Rabel type guy.

5610
04:12:08,240 --> 04:12:08,360
Speaker 28: Uh.

5611
04:12:09,040 --> 04:12:14,840
Speaker 43: Carson Schwashinger, you SLA linebacker looks like you know, human

5612
04:12:14,880 --> 04:12:20,360
Speaker 43: heat seeking missile. And h nicki Minmoor, the safety South Carolina.

5613
04:12:20,440 --> 04:12:20,480
Speaker 45: Like.

5614
04:12:20,600 --> 04:12:23,600
Speaker 43: I I know they're defensive players and he needs some

5615
04:12:23,680 --> 04:12:25,720
Speaker 43: offensive talent, but I just I don't know they look

5616
04:12:25,800 --> 04:12:26,320
Speaker 43: like Patriots.

5617
04:12:26,360 --> 04:12:28,200
Speaker 7: I like the safety a lot.

5618
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Speaker 6: Yeah, who is the safety?

5619
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Speaker 7: He said that?

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Speaker 6: I actually, I actually think that he's my least favorite

5621
04:12:36,120 --> 04:12:36,760
Speaker 6: player in the draft.

5622
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Speaker 7: I like him. He's one of the first guys we've

5623
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Speaker 7: disagreed on.

5624
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Speaker 6: He his tape was awful. Like I'll just say it,

5625
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Speaker 6: I like him awful, Like, now he's a great athlete.

5626
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Speaker 7: Maybe that's why he trips over.

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Speaker 6: Sorry, I don't mean to be rude. It's kind of late,

5628
04:12:53,320 --> 04:12:55,920
Speaker 6: but I just I really.

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Speaker 2: Did not care for the film with him that the

5630
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Speaker 2: Patriots take him and everyone's like, well, you know, he's

5631
04:12:59,520 --> 04:13:01,080
Speaker 2: a good a god.

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Speaker 46: He runs really effectively with both left feet, so it's

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Speaker 46: funny like he had a rep where he was like

5634
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Speaker 46: trying to Yeah, he's trying to fall underneath the crosser

5635
04:13:12,640 --> 04:13:15,920
Speaker 46: as a roboting across or is what they call it

5636
04:13:16,360 --> 04:13:19,160
Speaker 46: in the in the lingo, and he literally tripped over

5637
04:13:19,240 --> 04:13:20,200
Speaker 46: himself trying to do it.

5638
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Speaker 6: Like he's he's just not very coordinated. Great athlete though,

5639
04:13:24,840 --> 04:13:27,560
Speaker 6: But uh, yeah, I didn't mean to pick on Rio.

5640
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Speaker 6: I just I kind of felt like this and as

5641
04:13:29,880 --> 04:13:31,800
Speaker 6: we're kind of like wrapping it up, I just kind

5642
04:13:31,800 --> 04:13:36,600
Speaker 6: of felt in general that it wasn't sexy, it wasn't exciting.

5643
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Speaker 6: You know, it's hard to get it really excited about

5644
04:13:39,320 --> 04:13:42,280
Speaker 6: an offensive lineman. Like I I get that, and I

5645
04:13:42,360 --> 04:13:45,680
Speaker 6: get that that's not really everybody's cup of tea. Maybe

5646
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Speaker 6: Will Campbell's not your cup of tea, but they had

5647
04:13:48,120 --> 04:13:51,160
Speaker 6: a glaring need and he was the consensus best player

5648
04:13:51,200 --> 04:13:53,680
Speaker 6: available to fill that need and they went out and

5649
04:13:53,760 --> 04:13:55,840
Speaker 6: that's what they did. So when he will get the

5650
04:13:55,880 --> 04:13:58,480
Speaker 6: rest of this first round, you know, Josh Connerly is

5651
04:13:58,520 --> 04:14:01,840
Speaker 6: now gone, Josh Simmons just to Philly, I'm sure Houston

5652
04:14:01,960 --> 04:14:05,000
Speaker 6: is going to take ursery or a tackle there at

5653
04:14:05,040 --> 04:14:07,680
Speaker 6: the top of the second round. So yeah, they could

5654
04:14:07,680 --> 04:14:10,360
Speaker 6: have traded back up. But we've been down that road before,

5655
04:14:10,520 --> 04:14:12,680
Speaker 6: Like we've been down the road of let's try to

5656
04:14:12,720 --> 04:14:15,240
Speaker 6: trade back up, and you can't always do it, like,

5657
04:14:15,320 --> 04:14:17,120
Speaker 6: you can't always pull it off. They tried it last

5658
04:14:17,200 --> 04:14:19,680
Speaker 6: year and they didn't pull it off. So how would

5659
04:14:19,680 --> 04:14:22,360
Speaker 6: all of us have felt if they had taken you know,

5660
04:14:22,440 --> 04:14:25,640
Speaker 6: a different player at four overall, Ashton genty or whatever,

5661
04:14:26,040 --> 04:14:27,800
Speaker 6: and then we got to Day two of the draft

5662
04:14:27,840 --> 04:14:29,080
Speaker 6: and they still didn't have a left tackle.

5663
04:14:29,080 --> 04:14:31,880
Speaker 7: It's easy to sit here and say those tackles went

5664
04:14:32,080 --> 04:14:35,880
Speaker 7: very late, but that doesn't mean you could have gotten there, right, yeah, right, right,

5665
04:14:36,200 --> 04:14:38,120
Speaker 7: don't so it doesn't mean you could have gotten there.

5666
04:14:38,160 --> 04:14:40,120
Speaker 5: And I would just say, I mean, the only Evan

5667
04:14:40,200 --> 04:14:41,440
Speaker 5: laid it out pretty well. But I would say I

5668
04:14:41,480 --> 04:14:43,440
Speaker 5: am excited about Will Campbell, And I mean some people

5669
04:14:43,520 --> 04:14:45,320
Speaker 5: may not get excited about tackles, but I think he's

5670
04:14:45,360 --> 04:14:47,320
Speaker 5: the kind of player that I can get excited for.

5671
04:14:47,760 --> 04:14:49,760
Speaker 5: I'm excited to add him to that group, which I

5672
04:14:49,880 --> 04:14:52,320
Speaker 5: just think, as I said, when they picked him, desperately

5673
04:14:52,360 --> 04:14:54,520
Speaker 5: needed kind of a tone setter, kind of a guy.

5674
04:14:54,600 --> 04:14:56,400
Speaker 5: And you could just see I mean everything. I mean,

5675
04:14:56,440 --> 04:14:58,160
Speaker 5: we're looking again. They just showed another clip. I mean,

5676
04:14:58,200 --> 04:14:59,640
Speaker 5: it was one of the moments in the night was

5677
04:15:00,000 --> 04:15:02,960
Speaker 5: Will Campbell getting teared up so excited to meet him tomorrow,

5678
04:15:02,960 --> 04:15:05,320
Speaker 5: excited to get him here, and I think it's the

5679
04:15:05,360 --> 04:15:07,400
Speaker 5: pick they needed to make and hopefully it works.

5680
04:15:07,240 --> 04:15:07,760
Speaker 7: Out all right.

5681
04:15:07,840 --> 04:15:11,440
Speaker 2: Well, that's a wrap on Round one. The Patriots have

5682
04:15:11,760 --> 04:15:15,360
Speaker 2: Will Campbell. Tomorrow's a big day. Will Campbell will be

5683
04:15:15,480 --> 04:15:18,440
Speaker 2: here and we'll have him in studio. We're gonna tape

5684
04:15:18,480 --> 04:15:21,200
Speaker 2: an interview with him that we're gonna play on the

5685
04:15:21,280 --> 04:15:25,280
Speaker 2: show later tomorrow night. We're gonna be live tomorrow starting

5686
04:15:25,360 --> 04:15:29,720
Speaker 2: at seven o'clock for Round two. So join us then. But,

5687
04:15:30,000 --> 04:15:32,440
Speaker 2: like I said, a big day of content here at

5688
04:15:32,480 --> 04:15:35,080
Speaker 2: Patriots dot com because Will Campbell's in the house, so

5689
04:15:35,240 --> 04:15:38,040
Speaker 2: we'll follow his journey all the way from Green Bay

5690
04:15:38,560 --> 04:15:41,480
Speaker 2: back to here and everything that he does when he

5691
04:15:41,600 --> 04:15:45,200
Speaker 2: gets here, including again stopping by the studio for an

5692
04:15:45,200 --> 04:15:47,760
Speaker 2: interview that we'll have. Those are rowa was good meeting

5693
04:15:47,840 --> 04:15:50,560
Speaker 2: that first round pick for the first time in person.

5694
04:15:51,040 --> 04:15:53,320
Speaker 2: And then we'll be back here on the show at seven.

5695
04:15:53,720 --> 04:15:56,960
Speaker 2: So for tonight, thanks for watching, thanks for listening. Bring

5696
04:15:57,120 --> 04:16:03,240
Speaker 2: the energy tomorrow just like you did tonight. We'll see. Hey,

5697
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Speaker 6: And I'm usually into the numbers.

5709
04:16:42,480 --> 04:16:44,760
Speaker 5: Okay, we do something. I'm into the tangible numbers.

5710
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Speaker 6: There's there's tames here. Just give me. There's the advantage.

5711
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Speaker 6: I know how to work it. I'm surprised I get

5712
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Speaker 6: an old fan over here. I thought maybe i'd have

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Speaker 6: to show you, like a tutorial or something.

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