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Speaker 1: Everybody. Welcome to Between the Horns. It is Wednesday, June

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Speaker 1: twenty six. Miles Simmons here with DeMarco far We're sitting

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Speaker 1: on the comfy chairs. It's nice, Yes, the calm before

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Speaker 1: the storm. It might as well be like comfortable. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: because we have like downtime. We don't have off time, Miles,

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Speaker 1: No one's ever off in professional football. I'm sorry, go

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Speaker 1: tell Sean McVay he's off. Well, you're taking some time off.

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Speaker 1: Sean McVay is taking time. He's off, you know, in

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Speaker 1: the ons. Yes, he's doing football stuff everywhere. All right, Well,

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Speaker 1: can we since you started here, we can say congratulations

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Speaker 1: Sean McVeigh on your recent engagement. Yes to his fiance. Yes,

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Speaker 1: because he's already married. You didn't know this. Oh oh

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Speaker 1: he's been married to Jared Goff since he took the job.

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Speaker 1: So this is his second engagement. I just saw that

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Speaker 1: you tweeted. Yes, Yeah, but congrats. That's awesome. Yeah, that's

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Speaker 1: a big deal. Yeah it is, and it's nice, and

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Speaker 1: I mean, this is this is the time of year

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Speaker 1: where these things get to happen. Because you're not you

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Speaker 1: don't have to be on the entire time, right, like,

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Speaker 1: that's why when I tweet, Oh, you know we're gonna

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Speaker 1: take some time off because we're not going to be

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Speaker 1: here for the next two weeks. You can be here

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Speaker 1: and sit and talking in the microphone if you want.

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Speaker 1: I'm I'm not because I need a break. Okay, they're

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Speaker 1: all gonna catch you. I don't don't get to take

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Speaker 1: break smiles. Yes, I do know you don't. Absolutely not. No.

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Speaker 1: Even look, I bet on swore on this podcast. I

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Speaker 1: bet on his wedding day. He's going to be watching

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Speaker 1: football at some point during the day. I would not

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Speaker 1: doubt that. But I also think, no, even when he's

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Speaker 1: conducting the symphony, he's thinking football. How can I make

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Speaker 1: my team better doing this? Why do you do this?

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Speaker 1: What you just because I gotta get you in shape? Man, people,

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Speaker 1: there's a difference between stay and shape and like people

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Speaker 1: having to be human right placent. You went to the

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Speaker 1: super Bowl. Now you can take days off. Oh you've

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Speaker 1: been there. You've been to the mountaintop. Now you can

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Speaker 1: take days off. Nobody's taking days off off. Like you

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Speaker 1: get in there's easy, stay in there is hard. You

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Speaker 1: need to take you sound like when he's idiot Fans

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Speaker 1: like you have to take some time in order to

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Speaker 1: get your mind right for the season. That was don't see, no,

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Speaker 1: it's not that March. March. Now, you had two weeks

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Speaker 1: after the super Bowl, that was your time to decompress. Well,

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Speaker 1: if it was only three days, bingo, tell him, Tell

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Speaker 1: him to take an off day. He doesn't take off day.

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Speaker 1: Do it from a distance, though, What do you mean

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Speaker 1: If you're going to tell him to take an off day,

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Speaker 1: just do it from a distance so that he can't

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Speaker 1: get He can't get you. Yeah, so he can't grab you. Yes, yeah.

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Speaker 1: Have you seen him with his campers? Yeah? Yeah, I

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Speaker 1: worry about those kids. I just let him win. I mean,

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Speaker 1: whatever he tells you to do, do I mean, really,

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Speaker 1: if he grabbed the guy, he throws grown men, oh,

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Speaker 1: I know, yeah, when he grabs a child, I worry

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Speaker 1: padded mats, yes, like like for stunt coordinators, right, you know,

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Speaker 1: like when they're falling out of a window and then

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Speaker 1: he may have a game day flashback while he's grabbing you,

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Speaker 1: you know, and he's not responsible for what happens after that.

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Speaker 1: You probably have to sign a waiver in order to

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Speaker 1: be in an Eric Donald camp. Probably, But how cool

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Speaker 1: is that to learn from the best. And one of

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Speaker 1: it's so. It's not like you're coming to his camp

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Speaker 1: and that's all you get. He is actually working out

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Speaker 1: I mean it's it's not just working out, it's the instruction. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's detailed instruction. Like, no, I don't think you want

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Speaker 1: it's the little details and the stuff that he is

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Speaker 1: but that's why a lot of athletes have a hard

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Speaker 1: it's the same thing when you study their playing history.

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Speaker 1: that's the thing that's what makes him so damn dangerous

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Speaker 1: So we now do have training camp dates. First day

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Speaker 1: Jared Goff this year. I can't wait to see him

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Speaker 1: Kardashian for me. They're doing amazing, sweetie. Right. Legends Day

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Speaker 1: that's the one that that that that makes me nervous.

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00:20:29,760 --> 00:20:33,040
Speaker 1: That's like going to a haunted house. What I mean,

422
00:20:33,320 --> 00:20:36,680
Speaker 1: it's it's Gruden, it's McVeigh, it's the Raiders, it's to leave.

423
00:20:36,960 --> 00:20:39,840
Speaker 1: I mean, that's the one that has potential to spill

424
00:20:39,880 --> 00:20:42,560
Speaker 1: over into something nasty. Crabtree's not there anymore. We didn't

425
00:20:42,560 --> 00:20:46,199
Speaker 1: get any chain snatching last year anyway. And aren't they

426
00:20:46,200 --> 00:20:48,440
Speaker 1: on hard knocks. They are on hard That's what I'm

427
00:20:48,520 --> 00:20:51,600
Speaker 1: this has potential. Man. Well, okay, the other thing is

428
00:20:51,880 --> 00:20:56,760
Speaker 1: Vanta's perfect Richie Incognito, Oh boy, that's that's what I'm saying,

429
00:20:56,760 --> 00:21:01,520
Speaker 1: Like and Richie exactly, How is Incognito gonna try to

430
00:21:01,520 --> 00:21:04,000
Speaker 1: fight Aaron Donald? That would be when I when when Sean,

431
00:21:04,160 --> 00:21:06,520
Speaker 1: when Sean McVeigh and John Gruden get together for like

432
00:21:06,520 --> 00:21:09,000
Speaker 1: a rules of engagement. Yeah, that should be one. These

433
00:21:09,000 --> 00:21:11,919
Speaker 1: two guys cannot go one on one. They should not

434
00:21:11,960 --> 00:21:14,600
Speaker 1: be over each other in any sort of drill. I agree, yeah,

435
00:21:14,600 --> 00:21:17,280
Speaker 1: because they both don't know how to take backwards steps

436
00:21:17,720 --> 00:21:20,399
Speaker 1: at home. Yeah. Yeah, so that's that's that's what I mean,

437
00:21:20,520 --> 00:21:23,480
Speaker 1: that one has potential to spin out of or spend

438
00:21:23,520 --> 00:21:26,480
Speaker 1: into something crazy. Yes, it does. And I think what

439
00:21:26,640 --> 00:21:29,920
Speaker 1: I think about when anybody tries to challenge Aaron Donald.

440
00:21:30,280 --> 00:21:33,159
Speaker 1: Were you there for this in twenty sixteen? Okay it

441
00:21:33,240 --> 00:21:36,359
Speaker 1: must have been ot ye? Was I there for that?

442
00:21:36,560 --> 00:21:39,960
Speaker 1: Did you hear him saying? No? I I meant this

443
00:21:40,040 --> 00:21:44,520
Speaker 1: in particular days? I'm sorry, go ahead anyway, which which

444
00:21:44,600 --> 00:21:47,040
Speaker 1: day was? Wasn't I there for? Go ahead? First of all,

445
00:21:47,080 --> 00:21:48,880
Speaker 1: get out of here off that day? Okay, go ahead,

446
00:21:49,080 --> 00:21:52,320
Speaker 1: stop that, don't There have been like two practices that

447
00:21:52,440 --> 00:21:55,160
Speaker 1: I have missed in the entire five years that I've

448
00:21:55,200 --> 00:21:58,840
Speaker 1: been here, and one of and they were because in

449
00:21:58,920 --> 00:22:01,439
Speaker 1: twenty seventeen I got inducted into the all of this

450
00:22:01,480 --> 00:22:03,280
Speaker 1: is true. You had to go yes, and I had

451
00:22:03,320 --> 00:22:05,480
Speaker 1: to go to that day. Did he rip the face

452
00:22:05,520 --> 00:22:08,240
Speaker 1: mask off? Yes? Yes, Okay, that's where that's the story

453
00:22:08,240 --> 00:22:11,200
Speaker 1: I was about to tell. Well, tell the story, okay, Yeah,

454
00:22:12,119 --> 00:22:16,600
Speaker 1: So I don't even it was some nameless, um offensive

455
00:22:16,640 --> 00:22:19,919
Speaker 1: lineman who tried to step to Aaron Donald and the

456
00:22:19,960 --> 00:22:22,480
Speaker 1: middle of the name. By the way, what was the

457
00:22:22,520 --> 00:22:24,560
Speaker 1: guy's name? Telling you go ahead? No, if you could

458
00:22:24,560 --> 00:22:28,040
Speaker 1: tell the story, go ahead, yeah, go ahead. Yes he

459
00:22:28,080 --> 00:22:29,960
Speaker 1: was nameless, his name was and faceless because I'm sorry,

460
00:22:29,960 --> 00:22:32,639
Speaker 1: I haven't thought about him in three years. Go ahead.

461
00:22:33,280 --> 00:22:34,960
Speaker 1: It could have been like Mike Rimmers or something. I

462
00:22:35,000 --> 00:22:39,479
Speaker 1: don't know. All right, So anyway, he like tries to

463
00:22:39,600 --> 00:22:42,200
Speaker 1: challenge Aaron Donald for some reason, like he takes a

464
00:22:42,280 --> 00:22:46,360
Speaker 1: swing at him, lunges at him whatever. Aaron Donald has

465
00:22:46,520 --> 00:22:49,159
Speaker 1: one hand on his chest to hold him back, takes

466
00:22:49,160 --> 00:22:52,119
Speaker 1: the other hand his right hand and just swipes the

467
00:22:52,160 --> 00:22:56,000
Speaker 1: face mask off of his helmet in one fell swoop

468
00:22:56,520 --> 00:22:59,439
Speaker 1: a bear. I've never seen anything like that. Now I

469
00:22:59,440 --> 00:23:03,400
Speaker 1: remember assistant coach Matt coach Mack. He comes up and

470
00:23:03,440 --> 00:23:07,240
Speaker 1: he's just he is incredulous. He goes, I've never seen

471
00:23:07,280 --> 00:23:09,640
Speaker 1: anything like that my life. Guy into a new Rockney

472
00:23:09,640 --> 00:23:12,280
Speaker 1: player like the helmet with no face mask. Yes, yeah,

473
00:23:12,280 --> 00:23:14,440
Speaker 1: and then started banging him on the head with his

474
00:23:14,480 --> 00:23:17,800
Speaker 1: own face masks. Yeah. That got real scary, Like, please

475
00:23:17,800 --> 00:23:19,520
Speaker 1: stop him if you can. Yeah, I know what you

476
00:23:19,560 --> 00:23:22,600
Speaker 1: mean the same thing with with with Aaron and if

477
00:23:22,600 --> 00:23:26,240
Speaker 1: you get anywhere close to Richie incognito. They both play

478
00:23:26,280 --> 00:23:29,120
Speaker 1: the same style, just one knows when to stop. One

479
00:23:29,160 --> 00:23:31,439
Speaker 1: knows how to play between the lines right and the

480
00:23:31,520 --> 00:23:35,080
Speaker 1: other to stop. The other one does not. But I mean,

481
00:23:35,160 --> 00:23:37,400
Speaker 1: if if there's anyone in this world that can teach

482
00:23:37,480 --> 00:23:41,040
Speaker 1: Richie when to stop, it's going to be Aaron. Yeah.

483
00:23:41,080 --> 00:23:43,399
Speaker 1: So this this will be fun. Yeah, I was. I

484
00:23:43,440 --> 00:23:45,600
Speaker 1: remember that. I've only seen that one other time and

485
00:23:45,680 --> 00:23:47,239
Speaker 1: it was in college and the guy that did it

486
00:23:47,280 --> 00:23:50,200
Speaker 1: was six seven three twenty where he snatched the face

487
00:23:50,240 --> 00:23:53,399
Speaker 1: mask literally off the guy's head. Yeah, so why did

488
00:23:53,480 --> 00:23:55,919
Speaker 1: that happen when you're in college, Like it was the

489
00:23:55,960 --> 00:23:57,959
Speaker 1: same kind of deal. Yeah, I don't know nobody I've

490
00:23:58,000 --> 00:24:02,119
Speaker 1: ever heard the name. Bob's hap Okay, Google search Bob's app. Okay,

491
00:24:02,440 --> 00:24:06,199
Speaker 1: he's a fighter now, he's huge, like in stature and

492
00:24:06,240 --> 00:24:08,399
Speaker 1: in Japan. He's a big deal. But he was that

493
00:24:08,520 --> 00:24:10,600
Speaker 1: size in college and he was a true freshman and

494
00:24:10,640 --> 00:24:12,880
Speaker 1: I was a senior. So this is funny. I'll tell

495
00:24:12,880 --> 00:24:15,160
Speaker 1: you this story. So he's a defensive lineman. At first

496
00:24:15,160 --> 00:24:17,800
Speaker 1: we recruited him, couldn't really move, he was just strong

497
00:24:17,840 --> 00:24:20,480
Speaker 1: as hell, so we'd send him down with the offense

498
00:24:20,560 --> 00:24:21,760
Speaker 1: on the other end of the field, he was a

499
00:24:21,800 --> 00:24:25,000
Speaker 1: Scout team defensive player. There were dust ups every day.

500
00:24:25,440 --> 00:24:27,280
Speaker 1: I mean, you'd looked down there and there'd be like

501
00:24:27,320 --> 00:24:29,760
Speaker 1: ten guys going at it and it'd be nine on

502
00:24:29,760 --> 00:24:33,280
Speaker 1: one and he's winning. Yeah, I mean, and he's a freshman.

503
00:24:33,320 --> 00:24:35,880
Speaker 1: He's just throwing guys. This is like the matrix. He's

504
00:24:35,920 --> 00:24:39,920
Speaker 1: like Neo, right, but it's like like physical torture. It's

505
00:24:39,960 --> 00:24:41,840
Speaker 1: it's not as pretty as what Neo does. This is

506
00:24:41,880 --> 00:24:44,600
Speaker 1: just bad stuff, like he's trying to hurt people. So

507
00:24:44,800 --> 00:24:46,679
Speaker 1: they couldn't do anything with him. So they sent him

508
00:24:46,720 --> 00:24:49,960
Speaker 1: down to us as a Scout team offensive lineman and

509
00:24:50,000 --> 00:24:52,720
Speaker 1: they put him right over me. Right, So this guy

510
00:24:52,760 --> 00:24:54,840
Speaker 1: has punked the entire team as a true freshman, and

511
00:24:54,880 --> 00:24:57,400
Speaker 1: I'm a senior and I'm a captain, so now I'm

512
00:24:57,440 --> 00:25:01,280
Speaker 1: expected to put this rookie in his place. Yes, dude,

513
00:25:01,280 --> 00:25:03,440
Speaker 1: I had never been more scared in my life. I

514
00:25:03,520 --> 00:25:06,760
Speaker 1: swear to God, I'm serious. This dude has beaten up

515
00:25:06,800 --> 00:25:10,040
Speaker 1: everyone on offense and now I have to deal with him, right, Yeah, Yeah,

516
00:25:10,040 --> 00:25:13,119
Speaker 1: So we got into a dust up, so I hit

517
00:25:13,200 --> 00:25:15,639
Speaker 1: him in the face as quick as I could. He

518
00:25:15,840 --> 00:25:19,800
Speaker 1: smiled screamed and ran at me. So I just dove

519
00:25:19,800 --> 00:25:21,760
Speaker 1: at his legs and held on right. So he gets

520
00:25:21,800 --> 00:25:24,240
Speaker 1: me in a headlock or my helmet and starts punching

521
00:25:24,280 --> 00:25:27,120
Speaker 1: on the helmet. I unsnapped the helmet slide out. I'm

522
00:25:27,160 --> 00:25:29,919
Speaker 1: standing by the coach. He's still punching the helmet, thinking

523
00:25:29,960 --> 00:25:32,960
Speaker 1: I'm in it. I'm I'm telling my d line coach,

524
00:25:33,000 --> 00:25:36,360
Speaker 1: we've got to do something about this guy. As he's

525
00:25:36,400 --> 00:25:38,720
Speaker 1: whaling on my helmet. Yeah. And then later on that

526
00:25:38,800 --> 00:25:41,960
Speaker 1: night at dinner, he walks over and apologizes and says,

527
00:25:41,960 --> 00:25:44,919
Speaker 1: I'm sorry I lost my composure, but that's what happens, dude.

528
00:25:45,640 --> 00:25:49,639
Speaker 1: This is a freshman. Yeah, crazy, yeah, yeah yeah. So

529
00:25:49,720 --> 00:25:52,080
Speaker 1: anyway he winds up. Now he's he's a big time

530
00:25:52,320 --> 00:25:55,520
Speaker 1: MMA guy. You'll see when you Google search him. You

531
00:25:55,560 --> 00:25:58,120
Speaker 1: want to believe how big this guy is. Yeah, anyway,

532
00:25:58,119 --> 00:26:00,840
Speaker 1: where were we that was? That was a great. Oh, dude,

533
00:26:00,880 --> 00:26:03,360
Speaker 1: he was nailing. I'm swear to guy, I'm watching him.

534
00:26:03,840 --> 00:26:07,080
Speaker 1: He's trying to punch a hole through a helmet, and

535
00:26:07,160 --> 00:26:10,119
Speaker 1: I swear, given enough time, he might have, but my

536
00:26:10,240 --> 00:26:15,360
Speaker 1: head is no longer in it and he didn't know. Wow, yeah, crazy,

537
00:26:15,480 --> 00:26:17,440
Speaker 1: Well I guess that's why he's a good fighter. I

538
00:26:17,520 --> 00:26:20,320
Speaker 1: have one headlock story that I the one time I

539
00:26:20,359 --> 00:26:22,240
Speaker 1: ever put somebody in a headlock and I didn't know

540
00:26:22,280 --> 00:26:26,520
Speaker 1: what it was. Right. So this dude, I was in kindergarten, right,

541
00:26:26,920 --> 00:26:30,520
Speaker 1: and this guy kept like messing with my friend and

542
00:26:30,600 --> 00:26:33,040
Speaker 1: I was tired of him messing with my friend. So

543
00:26:33,200 --> 00:26:36,639
Speaker 1: at recess, like he's messing with my friend whatever, I

544
00:26:36,840 --> 00:26:39,639
Speaker 1: take him and I put him in a headlock and

545
00:26:39,680 --> 00:26:42,520
Speaker 1: I throw his hat over the fence. Got him in

546
00:26:42,560 --> 00:26:48,080
Speaker 1: a headlocking. Oh yeah, oh yeah, I don't. My whole life,

547
00:26:48,119 --> 00:26:49,840
Speaker 1: I guess I've been like this, you don't mess with

548
00:26:49,840 --> 00:26:52,600
Speaker 1: my friends. I'm big into that. So of course, like

549
00:26:52,640 --> 00:26:54,320
Speaker 1: I kind of got in trouble and like they call

550
00:26:54,400 --> 00:26:58,240
Speaker 1: my mom and whatnot for the headlocker, for the hats, both, okay, both, yeah,

551
00:26:58,240 --> 00:27:00,840
Speaker 1: I mean you can't just check it too, No, that's fair.

552
00:27:01,400 --> 00:27:05,320
Speaker 1: So my mom loves telling the story. Right. So apparently

553
00:27:05,440 --> 00:27:07,280
Speaker 1: when my mom asked me about he's like, what did

554
00:27:07,320 --> 00:27:09,960
Speaker 1: you do to this kid? I was like, Mama, I

555
00:27:09,960 --> 00:27:12,879
Speaker 1: don't know. I bended him over because he was messing

556
00:27:12,920 --> 00:27:20,280
Speaker 1: with my friend. I bended him over. Okay, all right,

557
00:27:20,680 --> 00:27:26,439
Speaker 1: we have a new sports vernacular. That is, yes, and

558
00:27:26,480 --> 00:27:33,640
Speaker 1: that's the one time that I ever put somebody. Well, look,

559
00:27:33,680 --> 00:27:35,480
Speaker 1: if we ever get into a dust up anywhere on

560
00:27:35,520 --> 00:27:37,240
Speaker 1: the road, you better be putting people in a headlock.

561
00:27:37,680 --> 00:27:39,800
Speaker 1: Just okay, now, then I know you can do it.

562
00:27:39,800 --> 00:27:41,280
Speaker 1: At least you got the headlock. I could do it

563
00:27:41,280 --> 00:27:44,080
Speaker 1: when I was six, So I don't I don't know, um,

564
00:27:44,119 --> 00:27:46,399
Speaker 1: but yeah. So one of the interesting things I guess

565
00:27:46,440 --> 00:27:49,520
Speaker 1: about the off season and where we are right now

566
00:27:49,840 --> 00:27:52,240
Speaker 1: is that this is the time of year when sports

567
00:27:52,240 --> 00:27:54,520
Speaker 1: talk radio and you probably know this more than anybody

568
00:27:54,680 --> 00:27:59,360
Speaker 1: will go into the random subjects right of well, how

569
00:27:59,359 --> 00:28:02,000
Speaker 1: do we fix it's the All Star Game? Well, and

570
00:28:02,080 --> 00:28:03,919
Speaker 1: that's not what we're going to do here, know, but

571
00:28:04,000 --> 00:28:08,360
Speaker 1: Sportstoker have to say this, right after the the Baseball

572
00:28:08,359 --> 00:28:11,080
Speaker 1: All Star Game. Yes, is the most boring time in sport.

573
00:28:11,160 --> 00:28:13,440
Speaker 1: It is. It's when it's when people go on vacation

574
00:28:13,520 --> 00:28:15,639
Speaker 1: and right when the Stanley Cup in the NBA finish,

575
00:28:15,800 --> 00:28:18,840
Speaker 1: it gets a little thin. So it does on sportstock Radio. Yes,

576
00:28:18,920 --> 00:28:21,000
Speaker 1: you have to find ways to peel the on you exactly.

577
00:28:21,040 --> 00:28:22,800
Speaker 1: So we're going to do a little bit of that today.

578
00:28:22,840 --> 00:28:24,680
Speaker 1: But we're going to do it in a more fun way.

579
00:28:24,840 --> 00:28:28,119
Speaker 1: I think it'll be more relevant. What game did you

580
00:28:28,200 --> 00:28:31,320
Speaker 1: come up with? Now, it's not no, we talked about this.

581
00:28:31,440 --> 00:28:33,640
Speaker 1: I'm not doing anything that we did not talk about.

582
00:28:33,680 --> 00:28:35,520
Speaker 1: I bet you're the king of board games, by the way,

583
00:28:35,760 --> 00:28:38,040
Speaker 1: you know what, I'm really not really What was that?

584
00:28:38,120 --> 00:28:41,320
Speaker 1: That that one game where you celebrity game Night or

585
00:28:41,320 --> 00:28:43,560
Speaker 1: whatever it is. Yeah, I bet you're good at that.

586
00:28:43,800 --> 00:28:46,480
Speaker 1: I'm good at some things. Okay, Like I was. I

587
00:28:46,520 --> 00:28:48,960
Speaker 1: liked Mancala growing up. You'd ever play that with the

588
00:28:48,960 --> 00:28:55,320
Speaker 1: little beads? Play? Name that stage? Play? What Mancala? Mancala? Yeah?

589
00:28:55,360 --> 00:28:56,960
Speaker 1: I don't know what that is? Do you guys know

590
00:28:57,000 --> 00:28:59,760
Speaker 1: what that is is? I've never heard of in the

591
00:28:59,800 --> 00:29:01,880
Speaker 1: room know what that is? What kind of game is that?

592
00:29:02,400 --> 00:29:07,200
Speaker 1: Card game? No, it's like it's like beads and you've

593
00:29:07,240 --> 00:29:10,520
Speaker 1: got like slots. I would have to like google it

594
00:29:10,520 --> 00:29:13,640
Speaker 1: and show a TV and slots. Yeah. I'm not doing

595
00:29:13,640 --> 00:29:16,280
Speaker 1: a very good job of explaining this, right. No, Yeah,

596
00:29:16,280 --> 00:29:21,560
Speaker 1: I'll bend it him over. Yeah, I mean it's not

597
00:29:21,640 --> 00:29:24,600
Speaker 1: really accurate. Yeah, okay, anyway, that named that state? I

598
00:29:24,720 --> 00:29:26,520
Speaker 1: was good. I was great at named that state. Yeah,

599
00:29:26,600 --> 00:29:28,880
Speaker 1: that was a good educational game that my mom had

600
00:29:28,920 --> 00:29:31,720
Speaker 1: me play so I can actually learn geography. Nice. Always good.

601
00:29:31,760 --> 00:29:33,280
Speaker 1: I'm doing that right now with my four year old.

602
00:29:33,320 --> 00:29:35,640
Speaker 1: It's funny. Yeah, we do that usually, definitely get named

603
00:29:35,680 --> 00:29:37,840
Speaker 1: that state. Yes, I was a big Uno guy as well.

604
00:29:38,040 --> 00:29:39,880
Speaker 1: Oh really, oh yeah, okay, now we have something we

605
00:29:39,880 --> 00:29:42,200
Speaker 1: can do on the road. Yeah. Yeah. I used to

606
00:29:42,240 --> 00:29:44,240
Speaker 1: love playing, you know. And you can't find anyone that

607
00:29:44,280 --> 00:29:46,280
Speaker 1: likes to play you know anymore? Really? Yeah? Can you?

608
00:29:46,440 --> 00:29:49,000
Speaker 1: When's the last time you play? Do know? O? I

609
00:29:49,040 --> 00:29:51,960
Speaker 1: don't know exactly why because you don't have anybody to

610
00:29:51,960 --> 00:29:55,640
Speaker 1: play with. I mean that's a general problem of my life.

611
00:29:55,680 --> 00:30:00,640
Speaker 1: But right now I think it's something we could play

612
00:30:00,680 --> 00:30:02,920
Speaker 1: on the plane, right yeah. Probably. Yeah. See, like I

613
00:30:02,960 --> 00:30:04,440
Speaker 1: know a lot of guys like to play dominoes, but

614
00:30:04,480 --> 00:30:07,360
Speaker 1: you cannot play dominoes on a plane. Yeah, there's no

615
00:30:07,440 --> 00:30:09,160
Speaker 1: room to play exactly, but you can play, you know

616
00:30:09,440 --> 00:30:11,400
Speaker 1: you can. Yeah, and if you want to play something

617
00:30:11,440 --> 00:30:14,480
Speaker 1: on a game, usually you wind up gambling. Yeah, I'm

618
00:30:14,520 --> 00:30:16,840
Speaker 1: not doing that. I'll play, you know, we'll have some fun. YEA.

619
00:30:17,000 --> 00:30:18,560
Speaker 1: I don't like to gamblieve, I don't like to lose

620
00:30:18,560 --> 00:30:21,640
Speaker 1: my money, but I want it so Basically, what I

621
00:30:21,680 --> 00:30:23,440
Speaker 1: want to do is throw out a few convers I

622
00:30:23,480 --> 00:30:25,240
Speaker 1: threw out a free questions. Excuse me, I should say,

623
00:30:25,240 --> 00:30:27,680
Speaker 1: and we can see where the conversations go for us. Right, okay,

624
00:30:27,680 --> 00:30:29,800
Speaker 1: so you threw out the question and we get the answer,

625
00:30:29,880 --> 00:30:31,600
Speaker 1: or you threw out the question and I answered, no,

626
00:30:31,680 --> 00:30:36,200
Speaker 1: we we answered. Oh okay, yeah, so first moderator and answering. Yes. Interesting,

627
00:30:36,200 --> 00:30:38,480
Speaker 1: All right, that's how that's how this podcast is going out.

628
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Speaker 1: Jimmy Fallon, he can ask and answer. I like nobody.

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Speaker 1: Nobody would want to see me nightly on NBC at

630
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Speaker 1: eleven thirty five. You get into existence, Miles. Yes, they

631
00:30:46,760 --> 00:30:50,479
Speaker 1: will come on. I would never stop it anyway. Who

632
00:30:50,560 --> 00:30:52,960
Speaker 1: do you think could be the RAMS first time pro

633
00:30:53,040 --> 00:30:56,040
Speaker 1: bowler this year? Oh? Read this? Saw this, um, and

634
00:30:56,080 --> 00:30:58,719
Speaker 1: I like the answer that I saw on Twitter. Um,

635
00:30:58,720 --> 00:31:02,440
Speaker 1: Brandon Cooks. Yeah, I mean it's receivers, tough man. I

636
00:31:02,440 --> 00:31:06,360
Speaker 1: mean it's hard, it's hard. It's hard. They came up

637
00:31:06,360 --> 00:31:08,960
Speaker 1: with the top five receivers in the National Who would

638
00:31:08,960 --> 00:31:10,880
Speaker 1: be your top five guys in the National? Foot Oh,

639
00:31:10,920 --> 00:31:14,600
Speaker 1: that's another good one, Mike Thomas, Yeah, Julio, Yeah, in

640
00:31:14,640 --> 00:31:17,560
Speaker 1: no particular order, right, no order, Okay, Odell Beckham Junior,

641
00:31:18,240 --> 00:31:19,880
Speaker 1: would you throw him in there? I would put him

642
00:31:19,880 --> 00:31:23,400
Speaker 1: at like four or five only because of the production

643
00:31:24,400 --> 00:31:26,440
Speaker 1: is not as much as some of the other guys,

644
00:31:26,680 --> 00:31:28,840
Speaker 1: and he's had a history of injuries and you can't

645
00:31:28,880 --> 00:31:31,240
Speaker 1: put fits on there even though you want to. Why

646
00:31:31,280 --> 00:31:34,560
Speaker 1: can't you because I mean because of his age. So

647
00:31:34,600 --> 00:31:37,320
Speaker 1: you're saying top five right now, right now? Your top

648
00:31:37,440 --> 00:31:42,000
Speaker 1: five guys definitely Julio, Antonio Brown, Mike Thomas would be

649
00:31:42,080 --> 00:31:45,120
Speaker 1: my top three probably right And how many slots do

650
00:31:45,160 --> 00:31:47,520
Speaker 1: you have at receiver at the probo I'm assuming six

651
00:31:47,640 --> 00:31:49,560
Speaker 1: or seven. It's something like if you have a special teamer,

652
00:31:49,720 --> 00:31:52,840
Speaker 1: so I would say Brandon Cooks. It's just hard to

653
00:31:52,880 --> 00:31:55,240
Speaker 1: crack that lineup, man, Yeah, because these guys that are

654
00:31:55,280 --> 00:31:57,280
Speaker 1: that have that have made it, these all pros, they're

655
00:31:57,280 --> 00:31:59,320
Speaker 1: still in their prime, you know what I mean. So

656
00:31:59,320 --> 00:32:02,840
Speaker 1: you're gonna have to come up with something special. Fifteen hundred,

657
00:32:02,960 --> 00:32:07,400
Speaker 1: ten touchdown catches. You know, you make guys miss on

658
00:32:07,480 --> 00:32:10,360
Speaker 1: every reception. I mean, all these metrics they're counting now

659
00:32:10,400 --> 00:32:12,240
Speaker 1: for receivers. You're going to have to do a lot

660
00:32:12,320 --> 00:32:15,320
Speaker 1: to top these guys. What's interesting though, too, is that

661
00:32:15,600 --> 00:32:18,600
Speaker 1: when you have guys on the rams, right, you could say,

662
00:32:19,000 --> 00:32:22,600
Speaker 1: either one of the three starting wide receivers, in my opinion,

663
00:32:22,640 --> 00:32:24,600
Speaker 1: could be a first time Pro bowler this year. You

664
00:32:24,640 --> 00:32:27,160
Speaker 1: think so, yeah, because it could be Brandon Cooks. And

665
00:32:27,240 --> 00:32:31,160
Speaker 1: Brandon Cooks has been as consistent as any wide receiver

666
00:32:31,240 --> 00:32:34,040
Speaker 1: in the league over the course of the last four seasons, right.

667
00:32:34,080 --> 00:32:37,280
Speaker 1: I mean you think about what he did in New Orleans,

668
00:32:37,280 --> 00:32:38,720
Speaker 1: than what he did in New England, and now what

669
00:32:38,760 --> 00:32:41,800
Speaker 1: he's done in Los Angeles. He's been terrific in all

670
00:32:41,800 --> 00:32:44,000
Speaker 1: of those places. I just don't know if you're gonna

671
00:32:44,000 --> 00:32:47,040
Speaker 1: get enough looks like, here's Mike Thomas last season, one

672
00:32:47,080 --> 00:32:50,240
Speaker 1: hundred and forty seven targets. Do you think Jared Goff

673
00:32:50,320 --> 00:32:52,120
Speaker 1: or Sean McVay would target one guy one hundred and

674
00:32:52,160 --> 00:32:54,239
Speaker 1: forty seven times. I think if you target one guy

675
00:32:54,240 --> 00:32:58,120
Speaker 1: one hundred and forty seven times, something's wrong in this offense,

676
00:32:58,160 --> 00:33:00,760
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. Or something people are injured, right,

677
00:33:00,760 --> 00:33:03,000
Speaker 1: That's what I mean. Something's wrong. Yeah. Yeah, this is

678
00:33:03,040 --> 00:33:05,640
Speaker 1: a spread the ball type offense. One hundred and twenty

679
00:33:05,640 --> 00:33:10,720
Speaker 1: five catches, Yeah, yeah, this is all Mike Thomas fourteen

680
00:33:10,840 --> 00:33:14,719
Speaker 1: hundred and five yards Now I think that's possible with

681
00:33:14,800 --> 00:33:17,560
Speaker 1: fewer receptions because you're gonna spread the ball. But what

682
00:33:17,680 --> 00:33:20,080
Speaker 1: you do, you know after you make the catch is

683
00:33:20,360 --> 00:33:22,920
Speaker 1: purely up to your nine touchdowns. I think you can

684
00:33:22,960 --> 00:33:27,200
Speaker 1: get that eleven point two yards per catch, I per reception.

685
00:33:27,520 --> 00:33:30,760
Speaker 1: I think you can get to those numbers, but I'm

686
00:33:30,760 --> 00:33:33,240
Speaker 1: not sure if you're gonna get the targets enough targets. Okay,

687
00:33:33,240 --> 00:33:35,600
Speaker 1: well I just looked it up. So Robert Woods had

688
00:33:35,600 --> 00:33:39,280
Speaker 1: one hundred and thirty targets last year and something went wrong.

689
00:33:39,840 --> 00:33:42,719
Speaker 1: Cooper Cup was out exactly right, exactly, Brandon Cooks had

690
00:33:42,720 --> 00:33:45,680
Speaker 1: one hundred and seventeen, right, and there was what one

691
00:33:45,800 --> 00:33:49,000
Speaker 1: game two games that he had to miss time in right, right,

692
00:33:49,080 --> 00:33:51,280
Speaker 1: so at least a week five in Seattle. It's the

693
00:33:51,280 --> 00:33:53,200
Speaker 1: one that comes to mind right off the top. So,

694
00:33:53,440 --> 00:33:56,160
Speaker 1: I mean, Robert Woods finished with eighty six receptions twelve

695
00:33:56,560 --> 00:34:00,640
Speaker 1: nineteen yards, six touchdowns, Brandon Cooks eighty receptions twelve hundred

696
00:34:00,640 --> 00:34:03,479
Speaker 1: and four yards, five touchdowns. Right, So I think what

697
00:34:03,480 --> 00:34:05,720
Speaker 1: you're saying is probably true. You're probably not going to

698
00:34:05,760 --> 00:34:08,960
Speaker 1: get to that hundred nearly one hundred and fifty targets

699
00:34:09,400 --> 00:34:11,080
Speaker 1: at that mark. You're probably not going to get there

700
00:34:11,120 --> 00:34:14,040
Speaker 1: as long as everybody is healthy. Right, But unless you're

701
00:34:14,080 --> 00:34:15,959
Speaker 1: having a Mike Thomas type year and then they start

702
00:34:16,000 --> 00:34:18,319
Speaker 1: designing plays just for you, maybe, but I don't think

703
00:34:18,360 --> 00:34:19,920
Speaker 1: that's the way this offense, and I don't think Mike

704
00:34:19,920 --> 00:34:21,640
Speaker 1: Thomas is going to have that year now that Jared

705
00:34:21,680 --> 00:34:23,759
Speaker 1: cook is there. That's the reason when he got to

706
00:34:23,840 --> 00:34:26,280
Speaker 1: Jared Cup. Yes it is, it is, but to crack

707
00:34:26,400 --> 00:34:32,439
Speaker 1: that Pro Bowl lineup at wide receiver. If these guys

708
00:34:32,480 --> 00:34:34,040
Speaker 1: stay healthy, you would bet it's going to be the

709
00:34:34,040 --> 00:34:36,080
Speaker 1: same guys in the Pro Bowl. Again. Well, okay, I

710
00:34:36,680 --> 00:34:39,640
Speaker 1: would almost say that there's maybe more of an argument

711
00:34:39,680 --> 00:34:42,279
Speaker 1: for a healthy Cooper Cup over the course of a

712
00:34:42,320 --> 00:34:46,440
Speaker 1: sixteen game season to be a Pro Bowler than maybe

713
00:34:46,480 --> 00:34:49,520
Speaker 1: your Robert Woods or your Brandon Cooks because of the

714
00:34:49,560 --> 00:34:53,279
Speaker 1: slot element that he brings to it. Right, And if

715
00:34:53,360 --> 00:34:56,680
Speaker 1: you think about it, third downs, red zone, that was

716
00:34:56,760 --> 00:35:00,400
Speaker 1: Cooper Cup time, right Because Cooper Cup he finished with

717
00:35:00,440 --> 00:35:03,000
Speaker 1: the team tied for the team lead with six touchdown

718
00:35:03,040 --> 00:35:06,920
Speaker 1: receptions and he played half the season, no doubt. See,

719
00:35:07,040 --> 00:35:10,040
Speaker 1: this is funny, and you're gonna take this comparison the

720
00:35:10,080 --> 00:35:11,799
Speaker 1: wrong way. At least most people will. I see him

721
00:35:11,800 --> 00:35:15,560
Speaker 1: more as a Edelman type. Edelman dominates an entire year

722
00:35:15,600 --> 00:35:18,560
Speaker 1: and a postseason run and never makes a Pro Bowl. Okay, yeah,

723
00:35:18,560 --> 00:35:20,480
Speaker 1: you see what I'm saying. It may not turn up

724
00:35:20,520 --> 00:35:23,160
Speaker 1: in the stat column how important he is because it

725
00:35:23,200 --> 00:35:25,080
Speaker 1: may not be a touchdown, it may not be a

726
00:35:25,120 --> 00:35:27,640
Speaker 1: long reception. It may just be this catch for a

727
00:35:27,680 --> 00:35:30,439
Speaker 1: first down that keeps the drive alive in a tough

728
00:35:30,480 --> 00:35:33,000
Speaker 1: ball game, when you need a play, he makes that play.

729
00:35:33,440 --> 00:35:36,120
Speaker 1: But on the stat sheet it looks like Antonio Brown

730
00:35:36,160 --> 00:35:38,600
Speaker 1: had the better day, But clearly it was golf or

731
00:35:39,200 --> 00:35:42,560
Speaker 1: Cooper Cup. He was way more important than whatever this

732
00:35:42,640 --> 00:35:46,080
Speaker 1: fantasy driven stuff anybody else is done right to victories.

733
00:35:46,080 --> 00:35:48,400
Speaker 1: That makes sense, Yeah, it does. But I don't see

734
00:35:48,440 --> 00:35:51,319
Speaker 1: that as something that's bad. I no, No, I tend

735
00:35:51,360 --> 00:35:54,040
Speaker 1: to agree with you when you talk about the comparison,

736
00:35:54,200 --> 00:35:56,680
Speaker 1: right like, I don't. I don't think that that's an

737
00:35:56,840 --> 00:35:59,560
Speaker 1: inapt comparison. I think it actually is a good comparison.

738
00:35:59,719 --> 00:36:01,480
Speaker 1: Most people, when you say, if I say Cup and

739
00:36:01,520 --> 00:36:04,440
Speaker 1: then Edelman, they say, oh no, I'm talking about that,

740
00:36:04,840 --> 00:36:07,520
Speaker 1: and they play right. It's it's what they do, and

741
00:36:07,560 --> 00:36:09,919
Speaker 1: it's how they and it's how they impact the game,

742
00:36:09,920 --> 00:36:12,920
Speaker 1: and basically they are playing very similar positions. It's not

743
00:36:13,000 --> 00:36:15,200
Speaker 1: just that. If you want a visual of what I'm

744
00:36:15,239 --> 00:36:17,480
Speaker 1: talking about as far as impact on a game, go

745
00:36:17,520 --> 00:36:20,320
Speaker 1: back and look at the Super Bowl. Yeah, exam, Brady

746
00:36:20,400 --> 00:36:23,120
Speaker 1: needed to play. There's Edelman exact the sort that's the

747
00:36:23,160 --> 00:36:26,040
Speaker 1: sort of stuff that Cooper Cup provides for Jared Goff. Now,

748
00:36:26,520 --> 00:36:29,839
Speaker 1: it may not be the numbers that garners a Pro

749
00:36:29,920 --> 00:36:32,480
Speaker 1: Bowl look, but he is the most important guy on

750
00:36:32,520 --> 00:36:35,839
Speaker 1: the field at various times. Yes, I would agree with that. Um,

751
00:36:35,880 --> 00:36:40,240
Speaker 1: I think that that's interesting there On the defensive side, though,

752
00:36:40,600 --> 00:36:42,560
Speaker 1: would you who would you maybe say that could be

753
00:36:42,680 --> 00:36:44,120
Speaker 1: the first time Pro Bowl? You know, I got a

754
00:36:44,200 --> 00:36:46,560
Speaker 1: name in mine who's who's your name? My name would

755
00:36:46,560 --> 00:36:50,240
Speaker 1: be John Johnson. You know that that could be overdue. Again,

756
00:36:50,440 --> 00:36:52,680
Speaker 1: boy at that spot, I don't know what he could

757
00:36:52,680 --> 00:36:56,360
Speaker 1: do to be to be better, you know, to to

758
00:36:56,680 --> 00:37:00,319
Speaker 1: I mean, if you have the exact same season, I

759
00:37:00,360 --> 00:37:03,319
Speaker 1: think people know you now and know where you live

760
00:37:03,440 --> 00:37:05,840
Speaker 1: and know what you're about to say. It's not a fluke.

761
00:37:05,880 --> 00:37:08,759
Speaker 1: So if you have a similar season, I think you

762
00:37:08,840 --> 00:37:11,960
Speaker 1: have to be in the mix. Yes, exactly, Yeah, I

763
00:37:12,000 --> 00:37:14,840
Speaker 1: think the rule of the Pro Bowl still applies. You

764
00:37:14,880 --> 00:37:16,719
Speaker 1: make it one year after you should and stay a

765
00:37:16,840 --> 00:37:19,680
Speaker 1: year longer than you should. So he is in line

766
00:37:19,719 --> 00:37:22,200
Speaker 1: for a Pro Bowl Berth. If he has the exact

767
00:37:22,200 --> 00:37:25,160
Speaker 1: same season and doesn't improve, right, I think he would

768
00:37:25,160 --> 00:37:29,160
Speaker 1: be one. Also, maybe Michael Brockers is another name. You know,

769
00:37:29,200 --> 00:37:32,080
Speaker 1: he's in a contract year. I think with the visibility

770
00:37:32,200 --> 00:37:34,640
Speaker 1: increase that the Rams have had more, people probably know

771
00:37:34,800 --> 00:37:38,160
Speaker 1: about him as a what because I love brock But

772
00:37:38,360 --> 00:37:40,759
Speaker 1: he makes the Pro Bowl as a what I mean,

773
00:37:41,040 --> 00:37:43,120
Speaker 1: you would have to be probably a nose tackler or

774
00:37:43,239 --> 00:37:46,120
Speaker 1: three or three four defensive end. So he's in the

775
00:37:46,160 --> 00:37:50,120
Speaker 1: same category as a Lenvall Joseph you see what I'm saying. Yeah,

776
00:37:50,200 --> 00:37:52,600
Speaker 1: guys that they're nose tackles. They stop the run. This

777
00:37:52,680 --> 00:37:55,600
Speaker 1: is all they do. So they're looked at one way.

778
00:37:55,640 --> 00:38:00,200
Speaker 1: So if you put Brockett at a three technique, you know,

779
00:38:00,400 --> 00:38:03,839
Speaker 1: as a pass rushing interior guy, Okay, well you're gonna

780
00:38:03,880 --> 00:38:07,120
Speaker 1: have to get into those you know, eight nine, ten

781
00:38:07,239 --> 00:38:10,200
Speaker 1: sacks seasons to get a look there. Now, if you

782
00:38:10,280 --> 00:38:13,359
Speaker 1: slot him as a defensive end, now you're out there

783
00:38:13,400 --> 00:38:16,520
Speaker 1: with Cam Jordan. True. Yeah, So it's it's gonna be hard.

784
00:38:16,560 --> 00:38:18,680
Speaker 1: For guys like Michael Brocker's to crack the Pro Bowl,

785
00:38:18,719 --> 00:38:20,959
Speaker 1: that's fair unless you just start putting up some big,

786
00:38:21,000 --> 00:38:24,839
Speaker 1: big numbers. Yeah. Yeah. Dante Fowler is another name. Yeah,

787
00:38:24,880 --> 00:38:27,319
Speaker 1: speed guy off the edge. I think that's wide open. Yeah,

788
00:38:27,360 --> 00:38:29,799
Speaker 1: I do. I think that's all the rage when they

789
00:38:29,840 --> 00:38:33,000
Speaker 1: start changing how they categorize guys off the edge. Now

790
00:38:33,040 --> 00:38:37,040
Speaker 1: it's just edge guys. Yeah. I think that's Anybody who has,

791
00:38:37,440 --> 00:38:40,799
Speaker 1: you know, high numbers or high pressure numbers coming off

792
00:38:40,840 --> 00:38:43,719
Speaker 1: the edge now has a chance to get there. So

793
00:38:43,800 --> 00:38:47,560
Speaker 1: absolutely he better man well if you want to make money, right,

794
00:38:47,640 --> 00:38:51,279
Speaker 1: and that that's why I would say for him especially

795
00:38:51,440 --> 00:38:53,120
Speaker 1: you think about the fact that he signed a one

796
00:38:53,200 --> 00:38:55,879
Speaker 1: year deal. It's basically a one year prove it type deal,

797
00:38:55,920 --> 00:38:58,879
Speaker 1: which he himself is even acknowledged. He knows that he's

798
00:38:58,920 --> 00:39:02,200
Speaker 1: got to step up this year and do things better, etc. Etc.

799
00:39:02,680 --> 00:39:04,759
Speaker 1: And he's going to be playing with Aaron Donald over

800
00:39:04,760 --> 00:39:07,040
Speaker 1: the course of an entire season, has a training camp

801
00:39:07,080 --> 00:39:10,000
Speaker 1: with Aaron Donald. They know how each other plays and whatnot.

802
00:39:10,239 --> 00:39:13,200
Speaker 1: And I think the Rams defense is going to be

803
00:39:13,239 --> 00:39:16,000
Speaker 1: a bit more cohesive this year, I would say, because

804
00:39:16,040 --> 00:39:19,640
Speaker 1: it's mostly the same guys and you've added veterans with

805
00:39:19,680 --> 00:39:22,480
Speaker 1: a lot of experience in places where it's not true.

806
00:39:22,680 --> 00:39:24,560
Speaker 1: I think they're they have a chance to be better.

807
00:39:24,560 --> 00:39:27,040
Speaker 1: They're going to be versatile, They're going to be a

808
00:39:27,080 --> 00:39:30,040
Speaker 1: lot more multiple than they were last season, and they

809
00:39:30,040 --> 00:39:32,280
Speaker 1: were pretty for sure. Yeah, I mean with the addition

810
00:39:32,280 --> 00:39:34,920
Speaker 1: of play Matthews. But I think the most important thing

811
00:39:34,960 --> 00:39:38,040
Speaker 1: for guys like Fowler is that Corey Littleton is back

812
00:39:38,080 --> 00:39:41,000
Speaker 1: as the signal caller. That's huge. That's like having your

813
00:39:41,080 --> 00:39:43,400
Speaker 1: quarterback come back for another year. Yeah, because you can

814
00:39:43,400 --> 00:39:45,840
Speaker 1: get into a rhythm of his play call you you

815
00:39:45,920 --> 00:39:48,839
Speaker 1: kind of know what's coming. So and Wade Phillips knows

816
00:39:48,880 --> 00:39:50,920
Speaker 1: what Fowler is and how to use him. Yes, you

817
00:39:50,920 --> 00:39:53,399
Speaker 1: know what I mean. So let's not burden him with

818
00:39:53,440 --> 00:39:55,839
Speaker 1: a whole lot. Let's let him do what he does best.

819
00:39:56,520 --> 00:39:58,960
Speaker 1: That also helps when you have Littleston on the field

820
00:39:58,960 --> 00:40:01,839
Speaker 1: that knows the same thing. Let's not adjust you, Let's

821
00:40:01,840 --> 00:40:04,160
Speaker 1: not move you when you're in this position to rush

822
00:40:04,160 --> 00:40:07,280
Speaker 1: the passer. I'm going to leave you there and adjust

823
00:40:07,320 --> 00:40:09,239
Speaker 1: everyone around you. You You know what I'm saying. Yes, Yeah,

824
00:40:09,280 --> 00:40:11,719
Speaker 1: if Aaron Donald gets in a three point stance on

825
00:40:11,760 --> 00:40:13,480
Speaker 1: this guy, the last thing you want to do is

826
00:40:13,480 --> 00:40:16,360
Speaker 1: move him. If he's there, that means he knows he

827
00:40:16,400 --> 00:40:18,640
Speaker 1: can be successful. Leave him there. Yep. Yeah, so that

828
00:40:18,680 --> 00:40:21,560
Speaker 1: works for Wade, that works for Corey Littleton. So I

829
00:40:21,600 --> 00:40:23,200
Speaker 1: think you actually have a chance to be better. But

830
00:40:23,800 --> 00:40:26,520
Speaker 1: for guys like Fowler off the edge, I mean, when

831
00:40:26,560 --> 00:40:30,080
Speaker 1: it's light your hair on firetime, pin your ears back

832
00:40:30,080 --> 00:40:32,640
Speaker 1: and let's go, you've got to be the first guy

833
00:40:32,680 --> 00:40:35,440
Speaker 1: to the quarterback. It can't be Aaron. Remember Aaron's coming

834
00:40:35,480 --> 00:40:38,080
Speaker 1: from the interior. Yeah, but that means he is less

835
00:40:38,080 --> 00:40:40,800
Speaker 1: space to go. What do you mean he is? There's

836
00:40:41,080 --> 00:40:43,600
Speaker 1: if you're on the edge, it's more yards to the

837
00:40:43,680 --> 00:40:45,880
Speaker 1: quarterback then if you're coming up the middle. Okay, So

838
00:40:45,920 --> 00:40:47,799
Speaker 1: when you're looking on the edge left or right, when

839
00:40:47,840 --> 00:40:50,080
Speaker 1: you look out left or right, who's next to you?

840
00:40:50,920 --> 00:40:53,640
Speaker 1: Chances are no one. Yeah, there's space, there's a chance

841
00:40:53,680 --> 00:40:57,120
Speaker 1: to run. So generally speaking, you should be the first

842
00:40:57,120 --> 00:40:59,640
Speaker 1: guy on the quarterback, not a guy that's coming through

843
00:41:00,160 --> 00:41:03,400
Speaker 1: fighting through a phone move Okay, I mean generally speaking

844
00:41:03,440 --> 00:41:05,080
Speaker 1: to deal with a center guard and a back. I

845
00:41:05,200 --> 00:41:07,360
Speaker 1: hear you, and I tend to agree with you, But

846
00:41:07,520 --> 00:41:12,280
Speaker 1: generally speaking, that's saying something like you can't say, generally speaking,

847
00:41:12,280 --> 00:41:15,120
Speaker 1: when you're talking about Aaron Donald, Well, I'm just okay,

848
00:41:15,160 --> 00:41:17,879
Speaker 1: So let's generally speaking, let's just have fun and put

849
00:41:17,920 --> 00:41:21,760
Speaker 1: Aaron in Denver with von Miller and those edge guys.

850
00:41:22,040 --> 00:41:24,799
Speaker 1: They would get to the passer before him. You see

851
00:41:24,840 --> 00:41:27,799
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. Sure, absolutely, there's they bring smoke off

852
00:41:27,800 --> 00:41:30,160
Speaker 1: the edge. They're unblocked off the edge for three steps.

853
00:41:30,719 --> 00:41:33,719
Speaker 1: Aaron takes a step and he's making contact and the

854
00:41:33,800 --> 00:41:36,320
Speaker 1: guys off the edge should be closer to the quarterback

855
00:41:36,320 --> 00:41:38,520
Speaker 1: after three steps. I guess I'm guess I'm just playing

856
00:41:38,560 --> 00:41:40,759
Speaker 1: Devil's advocate and like, not because I don't believe you,

857
00:41:40,800 --> 00:41:43,040
Speaker 1: but because I know Aaron Donald is so good. So like,

858
00:41:43,360 --> 00:41:47,120
Speaker 1: but most times when Aaron is getting to the quarterback,

859
00:41:47,280 --> 00:41:49,839
Speaker 1: it's very very quickly. He uses his speed to get there.

860
00:41:49,880 --> 00:41:52,520
Speaker 1: That's the That's the only thing I'm saying. This is fun.

861
00:41:52,560 --> 00:41:54,200
Speaker 1: I wish I could do this and go back and

862
00:41:54,280 --> 00:41:57,359
Speaker 1: just show everybody some of his best moves. He's still

863
00:41:57,400 --> 00:41:59,520
Speaker 1: getting blocked. It's just not the guy that he beat,

864
00:41:59,719 --> 00:42:01,839
Speaker 1: it's the other guy coming to chip on him. Yes,

865
00:42:01,880 --> 00:42:04,480
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. So, edge guys, you went

866
00:42:04,520 --> 00:42:06,960
Speaker 1: on the outside, you're in right, because it's the only

867
00:42:07,040 --> 00:42:09,000
Speaker 1: it's one on one and you're taking the half the guy,

868
00:42:09,160 --> 00:42:11,360
Speaker 1: you know what I mean? Yes, yeah, so you should

869
00:42:11,360 --> 00:42:14,600
Speaker 1: be Basically I agree with you in theory. You should

870
00:42:14,719 --> 00:42:17,520
Speaker 1: always be winning if you're the outside guy because you

871
00:42:17,560 --> 00:42:19,200
Speaker 1: are the outside guy and only have one guy. Now

872
00:42:19,239 --> 00:42:21,239
Speaker 1: I'm not saying get the sack, but you should be

873
00:42:21,280 --> 00:42:24,200
Speaker 1: the first guy disrupting you're off the edge. Okay, that's fair. Yeah,

874
00:42:24,239 --> 00:42:27,520
Speaker 1: and Fowler I think smells that knows that understands that,

875
00:42:27,560 --> 00:42:29,320
Speaker 1: and so does Wade Phillips. Yes, that's why it's a

876
00:42:29,320 --> 00:42:30,719
Speaker 1: big time for him. Yeah, you should be on the

877
00:42:30,760 --> 00:42:33,759
Speaker 1: quarterback immediately. And if that quarterback has to step up,

878
00:42:33,800 --> 00:42:36,600
Speaker 1: well guess what you're stepping up into exactly Yeah, exactly, yes,

879
00:42:36,640 --> 00:42:38,720
Speaker 1: And that's the way it should work, right, that's honestly.

880
00:42:38,719 --> 00:42:41,040
Speaker 1: It did work that way pretty well the first couple

881
00:42:41,080 --> 00:42:44,359
Speaker 1: of years with Aaron Donald and Robert Quinn, no doubt,

882
00:42:44,360 --> 00:42:47,000
Speaker 1: at least for one side. Yes, yeah, there should be

883
00:42:47,000 --> 00:42:49,279
Speaker 1: if you're getting edge or a pressure off the edge,

884
00:42:49,320 --> 00:42:51,040
Speaker 1: there should be nowhere for that quarterback to go but

885
00:42:51,200 --> 00:42:52,960
Speaker 1: up the middle, you know what I mean, Yes, And

886
00:42:53,000 --> 00:42:54,759
Speaker 1: if you do that, you're stepping into one of the

887
00:42:54,800 --> 00:42:58,040
Speaker 1: best ever exactly. Yes, something I do want to mention though,

888
00:42:58,040 --> 00:43:01,680
Speaker 1: because if you think about the way the RAMS offense

889
00:43:01,719 --> 00:43:04,920
Speaker 1: works in theory, if one guy gets hot, any one

890
00:43:04,960 --> 00:43:06,920
Speaker 1: of those guys could be a first time pro bowler

891
00:43:07,120 --> 00:43:10,640
Speaker 1: in terms of your tight ends or your wide receivers. Yeah. Now,

892
00:43:10,840 --> 00:43:13,919
Speaker 1: Gerald Everett is the guy that I'm coming to here. Yeah,

893
00:43:14,080 --> 00:43:18,240
Speaker 1: because we I think have seen flashes of Everett's potential,

894
00:43:18,280 --> 00:43:20,719
Speaker 1: but I think he would even admit this, we've not

895
00:43:20,920 --> 00:43:25,160
Speaker 1: seen the full Gerald Everett experience. No, yeah, no, no, okay,

896
00:43:25,239 --> 00:43:29,399
Speaker 1: So Kelsey Gronk is out Cooks and New Orleans. Now

897
00:43:29,400 --> 00:43:31,080
Speaker 1: he's going to see a lot of action. You know,

898
00:43:31,120 --> 00:43:33,840
Speaker 1: Breeze is going to hit him and he's fantastic between

899
00:43:33,840 --> 00:43:37,240
Speaker 1: the hash marks. So those numbers are going to be inflated.

900
00:43:37,280 --> 00:43:40,919
Speaker 1: But there's there's an opportunity, you know, in the NFC. Yes,

901
00:43:41,320 --> 00:43:44,040
Speaker 1: particularly if you want to follow the Gronk model. It's

902
00:43:44,080 --> 00:43:45,840
Speaker 1: not just what you do down the fields, what you

903
00:43:45,880 --> 00:43:48,200
Speaker 1: do in line as well. So yeah, yeah, there's room

904
00:43:48,239 --> 00:43:50,399
Speaker 1: to grow there. That would be awesome. I said this before. Man,

905
00:43:50,480 --> 00:43:53,640
Speaker 1: in this offense, when you're in eleven personnel eighty percent

906
00:43:53,640 --> 00:43:55,520
Speaker 1: of the time, if You're going to make the Pro

907
00:43:55,560 --> 00:43:58,400
Speaker 1: Bowl from the tight end spot on this team in

908
00:43:58,440 --> 00:44:00,719
Speaker 1: a McVeigh offense. You are a ad man for what

909
00:44:00,760 --> 00:44:03,279
Speaker 1: they ask you to do, no doubt. Yeah. So I

910
00:44:03,320 --> 00:44:06,200
Speaker 1: saw this from a next Gen's stats this morning. They

911
00:44:06,239 --> 00:44:08,720
Speaker 1: put this out. It's very interesting. So it's a tweet.

912
00:44:08,760 --> 00:44:11,960
Speaker 1: Sean McVay and the Rams used eleven personnel on ninety

913
00:44:11,960 --> 00:44:14,279
Speaker 1: percent of their offensive snaps in twenty eighteen, and over

914
00:44:14,280 --> 00:44:17,480
Speaker 1: the past two seasons, the Rams have only used five

915
00:44:17,719 --> 00:44:21,080
Speaker 1: personnel packages on offense, while three teams have used at

916
00:44:21,120 --> 00:44:23,640
Speaker 1: least thirty, and that's the Bears, the Saints, and the Ravens.

917
00:44:24,120 --> 00:44:28,720
Speaker 1: So what's actually even more interesting last two years five

918
00:44:28,880 --> 00:44:31,840
Speaker 1: different personnel groupings on offense for the Los Angeles Rams

919
00:44:32,080 --> 00:44:35,200
Speaker 1: and the second place team in terms of the team

920
00:44:35,200 --> 00:44:38,160
Speaker 1: that's used the second least because the Kansas City Chiefs

921
00:44:38,160 --> 00:44:42,439
Speaker 1: with twelve. Crazy, I know ya. That's so the fact

922
00:44:42,520 --> 00:44:45,560
Speaker 1: that the Rams have been so consistent in what they

923
00:44:45,640 --> 00:44:49,240
Speaker 1: do on basically each and every play, like if wound,

924
00:44:49,239 --> 00:44:53,360
Speaker 1: team has more than double the amount of different personnel

925
00:44:53,360 --> 00:44:56,840
Speaker 1: groupings than you've used. And that's very interesting to me

926
00:44:56,960 --> 00:45:02,240
Speaker 1: with virtually no contribution from that tight end spot. Yeah,

927
00:45:02,280 --> 00:45:05,920
Speaker 1: averaging averaging fewer than six hundred yards. Yes, out of

928
00:45:05,920 --> 00:45:09,560
Speaker 1: the tight end spot as a whole ninety percent of

929
00:45:09,600 --> 00:45:11,360
Speaker 1: the time, which means that tight ends feet are on

930
00:45:11,400 --> 00:45:14,439
Speaker 1: the field yep, ninety percent of the time. And he's

931
00:45:14,480 --> 00:45:16,799
Speaker 1: not a big part of the offense. So imagine and

932
00:45:16,840 --> 00:45:19,680
Speaker 1: you scored thirty points a game, yes, imagine finish. Yeah,

933
00:45:19,680 --> 00:45:22,000
Speaker 1: you finished one end two and scoring in the last years.

934
00:45:22,040 --> 00:45:24,319
Speaker 1: Imagine what happens if you just improved that spot by

935
00:45:24,360 --> 00:45:27,879
Speaker 1: thirty percent? I wow. Yeah, So it's it's out there

936
00:45:27,920 --> 00:45:30,600
Speaker 1: for you. It is um as a receiver, but it's

937
00:45:30,640 --> 00:45:34,120
Speaker 1: also important as a blocker, definitely. Yeah, so perhaps more

938
00:45:34,160 --> 00:45:37,120
Speaker 1: important as a blocker because of the way that those

939
00:45:37,239 --> 00:45:41,080
Speaker 1: numbers have worked. Right. So I think that's where if

940
00:45:41,239 --> 00:45:46,360
Speaker 1: if Gerald Everett turns into Jared Cook down the field,

941
00:45:46,400 --> 00:45:49,120
Speaker 1: I'll be happy. Yeah. But I think there's room to

942
00:45:49,160 --> 00:45:51,480
Speaker 1: grow as a blocker, you know what I mean for

943
00:45:51,960 --> 00:45:55,200
Speaker 1: just about every tight end out there, say for Rob Gronkowski, yes, yeah,

944
00:45:55,200 --> 00:45:57,200
Speaker 1: who could block his ass up? I agree with you

945
00:45:57,239 --> 00:46:00,279
Speaker 1: on that. So this is another question, um, and we

946
00:46:00,320 --> 00:46:02,040
Speaker 1: got it from mailbag, but I would rather do it

947
00:46:02,080 --> 00:46:04,560
Speaker 1: here because we have more time to discuss it, but

948
00:46:04,760 --> 00:46:07,279
Speaker 1: and I think it's interesting. So first to receive a

949
00:46:07,360 --> 00:46:11,080
Speaker 1: contract extension from the Rams, Sean mcvayh or Jared Goff,

950
00:46:12,000 --> 00:46:14,279
Speaker 1: and you alluded to this at the beginning of the podcast.

951
00:46:14,120 --> 00:46:21,120
Speaker 1: All logic says, quarterback first, coach second. Yeah. Yeah, um,

952
00:46:21,800 --> 00:46:27,600
Speaker 1: but one's going to follow the other within months. Yeah, yes, yeah,

953
00:46:27,840 --> 00:46:31,520
Speaker 1: it's going to look. I think that we can say, yeah,

954
00:46:31,680 --> 00:46:33,560
Speaker 1: it's going to happen for both of them, and those

955
00:46:33,600 --> 00:46:36,600
Speaker 1: two guys aren't going anywhere. If all goes well, they'll

956
00:46:36,640 --> 00:46:40,480
Speaker 1: do this again in five years or whenever the contracts end. Yeah,

957
00:46:40,520 --> 00:46:42,879
Speaker 1: I mean, I think they'll be joined at the hip,

958
00:46:43,480 --> 00:46:47,319
Speaker 1: you know, don't you, Yes, Yeah, absolutely, I do. I

959
00:46:47,360 --> 00:46:50,880
Speaker 1: think it's it's been kind of weird to see the

960
00:46:51,080 --> 00:46:53,600
Speaker 1: big deal. It's kind of been made out of this

961
00:46:53,960 --> 00:46:57,359
Speaker 1: with both extensions from Pro Football Talk. Have you seen

962
00:46:57,480 --> 00:47:00,680
Speaker 1: some of the stuff, like just with Mike Florio and

963
00:47:00,719 --> 00:47:02,920
Speaker 1: I'll use his name, I mean, like he's making a

964
00:47:02,960 --> 00:47:06,359
Speaker 1: big deal, like parsing the words of Sean McVay when

965
00:47:06,360 --> 00:47:09,280
Speaker 1: Sean McVay was like, you know, I have no doubt

966
00:47:09,280 --> 00:47:11,680
Speaker 1: that Jared Goff will get the contract that he's worthy of.

967
00:47:11,840 --> 00:47:15,160
Speaker 1: I think that's because Sims. Simms doesn't think highly of Goff.

968
00:47:15,320 --> 00:47:18,360
Speaker 1: I know, well I saw Chris Simms like top forty

969
00:47:18,480 --> 00:47:21,920
Speaker 1: quarterback list and Jared Goff was down at like nineteen,

970
00:47:22,080 --> 00:47:25,040
Speaker 1: behind like Derek Carr and Kirk Cousins and all these

971
00:47:25,040 --> 00:47:28,160
Speaker 1: other people that have not accomplished nearly as much as

972
00:47:28,160 --> 00:47:30,280
Speaker 1: what Jared Goff has in less couple. I think Florio

973
00:47:30,480 --> 00:47:32,879
Speaker 1: is just of the opinion, like a lot of people are,

974
00:47:32,920 --> 00:47:37,399
Speaker 1: that it's it's prohibitive towards winning to pay one guy

975
00:47:37,440 --> 00:47:39,400
Speaker 1: a lot of money, you know what I mean, your

976
00:47:39,480 --> 00:47:41,759
Speaker 1: quarterback a ton of money. It really does hamstring you.

977
00:47:41,840 --> 00:47:44,719
Speaker 1: But there's plenty of proof to the contrary to where

978
00:47:44,760 --> 00:47:47,840
Speaker 1: you can pay that guy and field a competitive football

979
00:47:47,880 --> 00:47:50,400
Speaker 1: team if you draft and develop, that's exactly what you

980
00:47:50,440 --> 00:47:52,160
Speaker 1: have to do, right, So that's the other side of it.

981
00:47:52,239 --> 00:47:56,120
Speaker 1: So I think anything like that is a backhanded comment

982
00:47:56,400 --> 00:47:59,240
Speaker 1: comment towards Jared Goff's ability. Yes it is, and that's

983
00:47:59,400 --> 00:48:01,839
Speaker 1: why that's exactly what Sean mcvayh has said. I mean,

984
00:48:01,880 --> 00:48:05,000
Speaker 1: there's been the rumor that really was picked up more

985
00:48:05,160 --> 00:48:08,280
Speaker 1: by Pro Football Talk, which was not coming from anywhere

986
00:48:08,320 --> 00:48:12,480
Speaker 1: but Pro football talk, that the Rams might not resign

987
00:48:12,680 --> 00:48:14,880
Speaker 1: Goff and they would do this that in the third

988
00:48:15,000 --> 00:48:17,920
Speaker 1: and you know, let Sean McVay develop another quarterback. And

989
00:48:17,920 --> 00:48:20,160
Speaker 1: Sean McVeagh has come out very strong and said that's

990
00:48:20,160 --> 00:48:23,879
Speaker 1: absolutely not true. And basically I don't know where that's

991
00:48:23,880 --> 00:48:25,719
Speaker 1: coming from. But as long as I'm here, that guy

992
00:48:26,120 --> 00:48:28,719
Speaker 1: is my guy. Who would you rather do? What? Just

993
00:48:28,880 --> 00:48:31,320
Speaker 1: having fun? Just taking off your ram hat for a second.

994
00:48:31,320 --> 00:48:34,080
Speaker 1: I could rather start over with a top flight, blue

995
00:48:34,160 --> 00:48:37,400
Speaker 1: chip rookie. I mean, really have to start from ground

996
00:48:37,480 --> 00:48:39,440
Speaker 1: zero and build that guy up it. But you'll put

997
00:48:39,480 --> 00:48:42,920
Speaker 1: your imprint on that guy. It's clearly your quarterback. You

998
00:48:43,000 --> 00:48:46,640
Speaker 1: drafted him, you developed him. Or is it easier to

999
00:48:46,880 --> 00:48:50,080
Speaker 1: have to get Jared Goff to reach his potential at

1000
00:48:50,080 --> 00:48:52,719
Speaker 1: this point? I think it's much easier to get a

1001
00:48:52,760 --> 00:48:55,880
Speaker 1: guy that's already a known commodity to reach their potential.

1002
00:48:56,120 --> 00:49:00,120
Speaker 1: It's more expensive, though way more expensive. Certainly it's more expensive,

1003
00:49:00,160 --> 00:49:03,359
Speaker 1: but I mean this is not college, right, you don't

1004
00:49:03,440 --> 00:49:06,040
Speaker 1: have a recruiting cycle every four years that you have

1005
00:49:06,120 --> 00:49:07,839
Speaker 1: to go through. Now, do you have to pay people

1006
00:49:07,840 --> 00:49:10,279
Speaker 1: and do you have to pay contracts? Absolutely? But I

1007
00:49:10,320 --> 00:49:14,120
Speaker 1: think it's also not a video game. This guy's on automatons,

1008
00:49:14,360 --> 00:49:16,279
Speaker 1: there's a human beings, and so when you have these

1009
00:49:16,280 --> 00:49:21,160
Speaker 1: interpersonal relationships. Okay, fair, yes, I agree with you. But

1010
00:49:21,400 --> 00:49:23,480
Speaker 1: I think when you have the interpersonal relationship and you

1011
00:49:23,520 --> 00:49:28,200
Speaker 1: can build the chemistry between your head coach and your quarterback, yeah,

1012
00:49:28,239 --> 00:49:30,560
Speaker 1: and you see how that can continue to build and

1013
00:49:30,560 --> 00:49:33,359
Speaker 1: you stack blocks onto it so that what they talk

1014
00:49:33,400 --> 00:49:36,560
Speaker 1: about and being an extension of the coaching staff truly

1015
00:49:36,640 --> 00:49:39,839
Speaker 1: becomes something that you can see week in and week out,

1016
00:49:40,080 --> 00:49:42,480
Speaker 1: like it is in New Orleans with Drew Brees. Right,

1017
00:49:42,960 --> 00:49:45,520
Speaker 1: why would you not want to do that. You're already

1018
00:49:45,560 --> 00:49:48,279
Speaker 1: on that track. Why would you cut your knees off

1019
00:49:48,360 --> 00:49:51,279
Speaker 1: and then expect to grow more roots. It's funny. That's

1020
00:49:51,520 --> 00:49:54,759
Speaker 1: when you mentioned Breeze. Remember he started out in San Diego. Yeah,

1021
00:49:54,800 --> 00:49:57,879
Speaker 1: and they drafted Philip Rivers. That's how New Orleans wind

1022
00:49:57,960 --> 00:50:01,080
Speaker 1: up getting Breeze because the Miami failed physical on the shoulder, right,

1023
00:50:01,120 --> 00:50:03,640
Speaker 1: and they went with Culpepper Yeah yeah, instead of Brief.

1024
00:50:03,719 --> 00:50:06,719
Speaker 1: So I mean, but it's it's just one of those

1025
00:50:06,760 --> 00:50:09,120
Speaker 1: things funny, like Jack del Rio's in the news recently

1026
00:50:09,840 --> 00:50:12,800
Speaker 1: telling the world that he wasn't his choice to draft

1027
00:50:12,800 --> 00:50:15,600
Speaker 1: Blaine Gabbert apparently he went. I swear he went to

1028
00:50:15,600 --> 00:50:18,000
Speaker 1: get lunch, came back, they traded up and said, we

1029
00:50:18,040 --> 00:50:20,640
Speaker 1: have Blaine Gabert as a quarterback. Really and this is

1030
00:50:20,680 --> 00:50:23,000
Speaker 1: all going to be in a book, so you never know,

1031
00:50:23,120 --> 00:50:25,680
Speaker 1: but there is a cell job that goes on with

1032
00:50:26,200 --> 00:50:28,960
Speaker 1: quarterback to coach or excuse me, coach to quarterback. This

1033
00:50:29,000 --> 00:50:31,680
Speaker 1: is the offense I want you to run and it works.

1034
00:50:31,880 --> 00:50:34,279
Speaker 1: I want you to trust me. There's also some of

1035
00:50:34,280 --> 00:50:36,640
Speaker 1: that coming back the other way. I can run whatever

1036
00:50:36,680 --> 00:50:39,440
Speaker 1: you need me to run. You know, I'm not limited.

1037
00:50:39,800 --> 00:50:42,279
Speaker 1: Whatever you think is possible. Whatever you want me to

1038
00:50:42,320 --> 00:50:45,239
Speaker 1: do within this offense, I can do. And I think

1039
00:50:45,280 --> 00:50:47,759
Speaker 1: we saw a little bit of that. I think we

1040
00:50:47,800 --> 00:50:52,640
Speaker 1: saw that growth from sixteen on till now with Jared Goff.

1041
00:50:52,960 --> 00:50:55,560
Speaker 1: Whatever you want to run, it's possible. You don't have

1042
00:50:55,640 --> 00:50:57,759
Speaker 1: to go look into college and say I want one

1043
00:50:57,760 --> 00:51:00,200
Speaker 1: of those. I am that, ye, And I'm all so

1044
00:51:00,360 --> 00:51:03,359
Speaker 1: already here with tons of experience, you know what I mean. Yes,

1045
00:51:03,400 --> 00:51:06,280
Speaker 1: So I think there's a trust that's that's grown between

1046
00:51:06,280 --> 00:51:07,759
Speaker 1: those two. So, like I said, I think they're going

1047
00:51:07,800 --> 00:51:09,200
Speaker 1: to be joined at the hit for a long time.

1048
00:51:09,320 --> 00:51:11,919
Speaker 1: I agree, And that's again it's what Sean McVay has said,

1049
00:51:12,280 --> 00:51:14,239
Speaker 1: and Jared Goff has been very clear, you know, y'all,

1050
00:51:14,320 --> 00:51:16,480
Speaker 1: let that take care of itself. And I think Sean

1051
00:51:16,600 --> 00:51:19,239
Speaker 1: McVeagh got asked about his contract situation and he also

1052
00:51:19,280 --> 00:51:21,080
Speaker 1: said a similar thing. I plan on being here for

1053
00:51:21,080 --> 00:51:22,640
Speaker 1: a long time and that's going to take care of itself.

1054
00:51:22,680 --> 00:51:24,960
Speaker 1: Wonder I wonder when is Jared going to have that

1055
00:51:26,000 --> 00:51:27,560
Speaker 1: how do you say it not coming out party? I

1056
00:51:27,560 --> 00:51:29,759
Speaker 1: think we've already seen that. What do you mean? I

1057
00:51:29,760 --> 00:51:33,080
Speaker 1: don't know what you mean, because there's it's almost fifty fifty.

1058
00:51:33,280 --> 00:51:37,719
Speaker 1: There's fifty percent that says Jared Goff is he's potentially elite, right,

1059
00:51:37,760 --> 00:51:39,640
Speaker 1: he's one of the best quarterbacks out there, and then

1060
00:51:39,680 --> 00:51:42,520
Speaker 1: there's the other side that says it's all McVeagh and

1061
00:51:42,760 --> 00:51:45,800
Speaker 1: that happens a lot to certain quarterbacks. But I wonder

1062
00:51:45,960 --> 00:51:50,040
Speaker 1: when and what does he need to do to pull

1063
00:51:50,040 --> 00:51:52,920
Speaker 1: that other fifty percent to his side. I don't know.

1064
00:51:53,000 --> 00:51:55,200
Speaker 1: I think a big shot have his helmet knocked off,

1065
00:51:55,320 --> 00:51:58,520
Speaker 1: come back in the game, get knocked out of the game,

1066
00:51:58,560 --> 00:52:00,560
Speaker 1: come back in the game, win the game. So okay,

1067
00:52:00,640 --> 00:52:03,640
Speaker 1: here's here's another question. Why do you think that Drew

1068
00:52:03,680 --> 00:52:07,319
Speaker 1: Brees does not get that sort of thing too, right,

1069
00:52:07,520 --> 00:52:11,239
Speaker 1: because you could arguably say, if you want to, if

1070
00:52:11,280 --> 00:52:13,560
Speaker 1: you want to think of it like this, Drew Brees,

1071
00:52:13,880 --> 00:52:17,080
Speaker 1: while he was a good pro in San Diego, turned

1072
00:52:17,080 --> 00:52:19,920
Speaker 1: into a Hall of Famer when he went to New Orleans, right,

1073
00:52:19,960 --> 00:52:22,400
Speaker 1: I would agree, Yeah, So does that not have a

1074
00:52:22,400 --> 00:52:25,080
Speaker 1: lot to do with Sean Payton. Uh, maybe it's the

1075
00:52:25,160 --> 00:52:28,279
Speaker 1: key moments big games. He's had more big game opportunities

1076
00:52:28,320 --> 00:52:30,839
Speaker 1: and Jared Goff at this point, and he's come through

1077
00:52:30,960 --> 00:52:34,759
Speaker 1: time and time again. Like eventually, they just if you

1078
00:52:34,840 --> 00:52:38,000
Speaker 1: keep winning, keep you know, you keep getting your team

1079
00:52:38,000 --> 00:52:40,520
Speaker 1: in these these big game situations, and you keep coming

1080
00:52:40,520 --> 00:52:42,319
Speaker 1: out on top or at least play well in them,

1081
00:52:43,080 --> 00:52:46,000
Speaker 1: public opinion will switch. Because I remember at one point

1082
00:52:46,000 --> 00:52:48,279
Speaker 1: they thought Drew Brees was just a run and shoot

1083
00:52:48,320 --> 00:52:50,399
Speaker 1: quarterback that got lucky. Then he got hurt. I told

1084
00:52:50,400 --> 00:52:51,879
Speaker 1: you he was gonna get hurt. He's not very big,

1085
00:52:52,080 --> 00:52:53,640
Speaker 1: and then he goes to New Orleans becomes a Hall

1086
00:52:53,640 --> 00:52:57,279
Speaker 1: of Famer. So over time, if you keep winning, they'll

1087
00:52:57,280 --> 00:52:59,319
Speaker 1: come back to you, or they'll come to you. They'll

1088
00:52:59,360 --> 00:53:02,920
Speaker 1: be universal praise for you. But sometimes it's the jury's

1089
00:53:02,960 --> 00:53:06,080
Speaker 1: out until you went, like Matt Ryan, Yeah, oh he's great,

1090
00:53:06,080 --> 00:53:07,640
Speaker 1: but he can't win the big game until you do,

1091
00:53:07,920 --> 00:53:09,680
Speaker 1: and then that goes away. Sure, you know what I mean.

1092
00:53:09,760 --> 00:53:12,680
Speaker 1: So I wonder what it's going to take for people

1093
00:53:12,719 --> 00:53:16,200
Speaker 1: that knock Jared Goff. What do they need to see

1094
00:53:16,960 --> 00:53:19,200
Speaker 1: for them to say, Okay, this guy's pretty good. You know.

1095
00:53:19,239 --> 00:53:21,960
Speaker 1: I don't know, because I think there have been off

1096
00:53:22,000 --> 00:53:24,840
Speaker 1: schedule plays that he's made time and time again. We

1097
00:53:24,880 --> 00:53:28,280
Speaker 1: saw it in the NFC Championship game, especially in New Orleans,

1098
00:53:28,680 --> 00:53:31,360
Speaker 1: where you think about the kind of crazy throw he

1099
00:53:31,440 --> 00:53:34,920
Speaker 1: made to left sideline to Tyler Higbee right and that

1100
00:53:35,440 --> 00:53:38,359
Speaker 1: kept the drive alive. Right, So there are things that

1101
00:53:38,400 --> 00:53:40,400
Speaker 1: he's done. I mean the throw where he had to

1102
00:53:40,400 --> 00:53:42,680
Speaker 1: go over the middle to Gerald Everett that was also

1103
00:53:42,760 --> 00:53:44,640
Speaker 1: off schedule. He was rolling to his right and throws

1104
00:53:44,680 --> 00:53:46,959
Speaker 1: it in the middle of the field and then Gerald

1105
00:53:46,960 --> 00:53:50,120
Speaker 1: Everett goes rumbling down the field. So I think there

1106
00:53:50,120 --> 00:53:54,800
Speaker 1: have been examples of Jared Goff making throws and being

1107
00:53:54,840 --> 00:53:57,960
Speaker 1: the type of pro that you know is going to

1108
00:53:58,000 --> 00:54:00,920
Speaker 1: be one of those elite caliber guys, right. I mean,

1109
00:54:00,960 --> 00:54:03,440
Speaker 1: you think about the throw he made to Cooper Cup

1110
00:54:03,480 --> 00:54:05,839
Speaker 1: in that back right corner of the end zone where

1111
00:54:05,840 --> 00:54:07,960
Speaker 1: he's rolling to his right and you think that that

1112
00:54:07,960 --> 00:54:10,239
Speaker 1: thing is either going out of bounds, there's no way

1113
00:54:10,280 --> 00:54:12,359
Speaker 1: it's going to be caught, and it ends up going

1114
00:54:12,440 --> 00:54:14,799
Speaker 1: right in the bucket. Yeah, if not for Mahomes, that's

1115
00:54:14,800 --> 00:54:16,840
Speaker 1: probably your play of the year. Yes, you know what

1116
00:54:16,880 --> 00:54:19,640
Speaker 1: I mean. Yeah, Yeah, I'm with you. I just it

1117
00:54:19,760 --> 00:54:21,680
Speaker 1: just seems like no matter what he does, even off

1118
00:54:21,680 --> 00:54:24,880
Speaker 1: schedule stuff, it seems like the coach gets the credit

1119
00:54:24,920 --> 00:54:28,440
Speaker 1: for it, Yeah, versus Jared Goff. So I wonder for me,

1120
00:54:28,480 --> 00:54:31,120
Speaker 1: maybe it's maybe it's the toughness thing. Maybe they need

1121
00:54:31,120 --> 00:54:34,440
Speaker 1: to see him man, but like maybe they need to

1122
00:54:34,440 --> 00:54:36,959
Speaker 1: see him put the team on his shoulders and will

1123
00:54:37,040 --> 00:54:39,240
Speaker 1: them to victors. So he needs what like the drive

1124
00:54:39,440 --> 00:54:43,719
Speaker 1: from Elway in eighty six, the drive or whatever. I

1125
00:54:43,719 --> 00:54:45,600
Speaker 1: don't know. I mean, it's a bad day for everybody

1126
00:54:45,640 --> 00:54:47,640
Speaker 1: but him, you know what I mean, And he just

1127
00:54:47,719 --> 00:54:49,520
Speaker 1: wills you to victory in a big game. But I

1128
00:54:49,520 --> 00:54:52,160
Speaker 1: mean he has he's and who knew I was going

1129
00:54:52,200 --> 00:54:55,720
Speaker 1: to be Jared Goff defender today, but he's had really

1130
00:54:56,160 --> 00:54:58,960
Speaker 1: attacking Jared, So you don't have to defend. Well, just

1131
00:54:59,000 --> 00:55:02,000
Speaker 1: saying I'm playing I'm playing this role. Okay, ahead, I

1132
00:55:02,000 --> 00:55:04,360
Speaker 1: guess I don't know, but he's had Like, if you

1133
00:55:04,360 --> 00:55:06,920
Speaker 1: think about the Minnesota game, that was that's one of

1134
00:55:06,960 --> 00:55:09,759
Speaker 1: the best passing games at least in the last ten

1135
00:55:09,840 --> 00:55:12,120
Speaker 1: years of not the last time. But go back to

1136
00:55:12,600 --> 00:55:16,440
Speaker 1: Monday or the day after that Friday, Friday the days maybe, yeah,

1137
00:55:16,440 --> 00:55:19,040
Speaker 1: I knew it was, but the day after that game,

1138
00:55:19,360 --> 00:55:22,040
Speaker 1: what are we talking about? Sean mcvays play Sean McVay

1139
00:55:22,120 --> 00:55:26,040
Speaker 1: taken advantage van a bar Well, but why can't it

1140
00:55:26,040 --> 00:55:28,480
Speaker 1: be both? Have you ever seen that? You see that

1141
00:55:28,480 --> 00:55:31,560
Speaker 1: commercial with the like the girl who's like talking about

1142
00:55:31,560 --> 00:55:35,000
Speaker 1: the tacos, Yeah, and she's like, why can't we have both? Well,

1143
00:55:35,040 --> 00:55:36,880
Speaker 1: you know it can be both. To me, I go

1144
00:55:36,960 --> 00:55:42,680
Speaker 1: back to the Usain Bolt argument. Right, if he's gonna win, guaranteed,

1145
00:55:42,680 --> 00:55:44,400
Speaker 1: he's the fastest guy out there, but it's only a

1146
00:55:44,440 --> 00:55:47,640
Speaker 1: story if he's challenged. If he wins by ten meters,

1147
00:55:48,280 --> 00:55:51,080
Speaker 1: it's a blip on ESPN, no one cares. But if

1148
00:55:51,120 --> 00:55:53,000
Speaker 1: he actually has to come from behind and run a

1149
00:55:53,000 --> 00:55:55,279
Speaker 1: guy down, then it's a story, right, you know what

1150
00:55:55,280 --> 00:55:58,799
Speaker 1: I mean? So maybe that's what he needs, which is

1151
00:55:58,800 --> 00:56:01,320
Speaker 1: what sucks for us because you're either you're in a

1152
00:56:01,360 --> 00:56:04,360
Speaker 1: shootout versus Kansas City, yeah, or you're in one of

1153
00:56:04,360 --> 00:56:08,839
Speaker 1: these you know, ten three blue collar defensive football games

1154
00:56:08,840 --> 00:56:11,920
Speaker 1: that are ugly to watch, you know, right, But I

1155
00:56:11,960 --> 00:56:15,279
Speaker 1: think that's what he needs to win those other naysayers back.

1156
00:56:15,360 --> 00:56:18,319
Speaker 1: Just one of those. He put the team on his

1157
00:56:18,400 --> 00:56:20,560
Speaker 1: back and dragged them into the end zone, dragged them

1158
00:56:20,560 --> 00:56:24,080
Speaker 1: into the wind call. He always did that against Philadelphia, Yeah, yeah, yeah,

1159
00:56:24,600 --> 00:56:27,640
Speaker 1: and that whatever week that was Week fifteen at the Coliseum,

1160
00:56:27,760 --> 00:56:31,680
Speaker 1: right that that it was an opportunity. You're right, Chicago

1161
00:56:31,719 --> 00:56:34,239
Speaker 1: would have been an opportunity. Yeah. But nothing was going

1162
00:56:34,360 --> 00:56:37,080
Speaker 1: right that game. That's what I mean. Okay, right there,

1163
00:56:37,280 --> 00:56:41,600
Speaker 1: that's that's Green Bay has been through that a thousand times. Yes, yeah,

1164
00:56:41,680 --> 00:56:45,000
Speaker 1: it's nothing was going right except for him. Yeah. Yeah. Well.

1165
00:56:45,040 --> 00:56:47,160
Speaker 1: The other thing is, and I think that this is

1166
00:56:47,200 --> 00:56:50,799
Speaker 1: always important to remember, Jerikoff is twenty four, so he's

1167
00:56:50,840 --> 00:56:54,640
Speaker 1: got many many years of football left, you know for

1168
00:56:55,080 --> 00:56:57,120
Speaker 1: you hope and knock on wood, No wait a minute, now,

1169
00:56:57,120 --> 00:56:59,399
Speaker 1: hold on, just let's get into that. He's twenty four.

1170
00:56:59,560 --> 00:57:03,000
Speaker 1: So are we saying he's young? Yeah, the guys, he's

1171
00:57:03,000 --> 00:57:05,120
Speaker 1: been a starter for damn or three years. I know,

1172
00:57:05,520 --> 00:57:08,080
Speaker 1: Well that's not young anymore. Bro, that's a lot of football.

1173
00:57:08,239 --> 00:57:11,680
Speaker 1: Well it's young, and it's not young in football years.

1174
00:57:11,760 --> 00:57:14,000
Speaker 1: But in terms of just so if he goes his body,

1175
00:57:15,360 --> 00:57:16,840
Speaker 1: if he goes out and has a four pick game,

1176
00:57:16,840 --> 00:57:19,840
Speaker 1: are we gonna say, oh, he's only twenty four? No,

1177
00:57:20,200 --> 00:57:25,080
Speaker 1: exactly right, exactly, always only twenty four. Oh you know

1178
00:57:25,160 --> 00:57:28,280
Speaker 1: it's selective reasoning. Please type that, Miles, Oh he's only

1179
00:57:28,280 --> 00:57:30,680
Speaker 1: twenty four, you know, four picks and fumble the ball

1180
00:57:30,720 --> 00:57:37,040
Speaker 1: twice and but that's not how that works on t Yeah, exactly,

1181
00:57:37,480 --> 00:57:39,600
Speaker 1: Like he's been a starter for three years. Um, so

1182
00:57:39,640 --> 00:57:41,880
Speaker 1: as we we wrap this up, this fifteen minutes kind

1183
00:57:41,880 --> 00:57:43,600
Speaker 1: of went by fast. That's it. I don't know how

1184
00:57:43,640 --> 00:57:46,200
Speaker 1: we're I don't know how like rapid exactly, it's been

1185
00:57:46,400 --> 00:57:49,200
Speaker 1: rapid fire. Some more questions and you got one more. Well,

1186
00:57:49,280 --> 00:57:50,720
Speaker 1: what are you going to do for the fourth of July.

1187
00:57:51,480 --> 00:57:53,640
Speaker 1: I'm trying not to blow my hand off. Okay. Yeah.

1188
00:57:53,760 --> 00:57:57,400
Speaker 1: The only news, I always say, the only news that

1189
00:57:57,440 --> 00:57:59,440
Speaker 1: you're going to have from an NFL team on the

1190
00:57:59,440 --> 00:58:02,439
Speaker 1: week of the four the July is bad news, no doubt. Well,

1191
00:58:02,600 --> 00:58:05,880
Speaker 1: just light the fuse and get away from it. Yes, yeah,

1192
00:58:05,880 --> 00:58:09,360
Speaker 1: no doubt about it. Don't hold it, don't don't hold it,

1193
00:58:09,480 --> 00:58:12,439
Speaker 1: or honestly, just don't. Don't shoot them off yourself. Yes,

1194
00:58:12,680 --> 00:58:15,240
Speaker 1: and don't have the famous last words hold my beer.

1195
00:58:15,600 --> 00:58:17,920
Speaker 1: Oh that always ends bad? Yeah, that does always end bad.

1196
00:58:18,040 --> 00:58:20,560
Speaker 1: Are you excited for Spider Man Far from Home? Can't wait?

1197
00:58:20,600 --> 00:58:23,479
Speaker 1: I'm excited for that. I'm excited for the Lion King. Yeah,

1198
00:58:23,880 --> 00:58:27,960
Speaker 1: Toy Story four just opened up, and um no, Spider

1199
00:58:27,960 --> 00:58:30,160
Speaker 1: Man opens in four days. Yeah, Spider Man opens I

1200
00:58:30,160 --> 00:58:32,840
Speaker 1: think on July second. Geeked for it? Absolutely, yes, yes, sir.

1201
00:58:33,320 --> 00:58:38,720
Speaker 1: What have you been watching on television lately? Actually? Nothing really? Yeah,

1202
00:58:38,760 --> 00:58:43,640
Speaker 1: I kind of gave TV a break. Um watching old movies. Okay,

1203
00:58:43,760 --> 00:58:45,680
Speaker 1: I watched The Graduate the other day. I never saw it,

1204
00:58:45,760 --> 00:58:48,840
Speaker 1: you know what. I was watching something um the other

1205
00:58:48,920 --> 00:58:50,680
Speaker 1: day and I was like, man, I wish they had

1206
00:58:50,800 --> 00:58:55,040
Speaker 1: ended this movie like The Graduate. Oh you know what

1207
00:58:55,080 --> 00:58:59,080
Speaker 1: it was? What it was? Love Simon. You're seeing that movie,

1208
00:58:59,400 --> 00:59:02,160
Speaker 1: it's like, it's like the movie about the guy. Yeah,

1209
00:59:02,200 --> 00:59:05,800
Speaker 1: it's about the guy who doesn't want nobody knows he's gay.

1210
00:59:05,880 --> 00:59:09,160
Speaker 1: And then watch Yeah, my daughter turned me onto that one. Yeah,

1211
00:59:09,160 --> 00:59:11,040
Speaker 1: it's a pretty good movie. But I kind of wanted

1212
00:59:11,040 --> 00:59:13,240
Speaker 1: it to be like at the end spoiler alert, he

1213
00:59:13,400 --> 00:59:15,360
Speaker 1: finds out who he's talking to and then they like

1214
00:59:15,360 --> 00:59:18,000
Speaker 1: are in a Ferriss wheel. Yeah, and like I wanted

1215
00:59:18,000 --> 00:59:19,760
Speaker 1: it to end like The Graduate. They look at each

1216
00:59:19,800 --> 00:59:21,720
Speaker 1: other and it's like what now, and then it didn't.

1217
00:59:22,360 --> 00:59:24,040
Speaker 1: That would have been fun. That was cool. But yeah,

1218
00:59:24,040 --> 00:59:26,320
Speaker 1: I've I've actually seen The Graduate. I watched it in

1219
00:59:26,400 --> 00:59:29,040
Speaker 1: the seventies. Guys. I read something about that movie. It's

1220
00:59:29,040 --> 00:59:31,400
Speaker 1: crazy the last, first and last time or the last

1221
00:59:31,400 --> 00:59:36,240
Speaker 1: time the director was nominated but or one but didn't

1222
00:59:36,280 --> 00:59:39,040
Speaker 1: win Best Picture. Huh. Usually one follows the other. Yeah,

1223
00:59:39,120 --> 00:59:41,320
Speaker 1: you win Best Director, usually you get Best Picture. But

1224
00:59:41,360 --> 00:59:44,040
Speaker 1: it's the first or the first and last time they

1225
00:59:44,240 --> 00:59:47,360
Speaker 1: you won Best Director but did not win Best Picture. Interesting, weird,

1226
00:59:47,400 --> 00:59:49,080
Speaker 1: But yeah, I loved it, loved it, loved it. Yeah,

1227
00:59:49,080 --> 00:59:51,200
Speaker 1: so I'm watching I watched that, and I've been watching

1228
00:59:51,240 --> 00:59:56,200
Speaker 1: Big Little Lies. You keep tweeting about this TV. Yeah,

1229
00:59:56,240 --> 00:59:58,640
Speaker 1: it's good. Um, I've watched that. Oh the other thing

1230
00:59:58,640 --> 01:00:00,720
Speaker 1: I watched I watched Jackie Brown for the first time.

1231
01:00:01,000 --> 01:00:03,000
Speaker 1: What do you think I really like? Tell me Sam

1232
01:00:03,080 --> 01:00:05,000
Speaker 1: Jackson shouldn't have like won some award for that one

1233
01:00:05,040 --> 01:00:08,160
Speaker 1: should have dude, he was that character? Yeah, yeah, man, yeah,

1234
01:00:08,200 --> 01:00:10,880
Speaker 1: he what was his name? Oh I can't remember his name.

1235
01:00:11,800 --> 01:00:14,840
Speaker 1: I can't either, And I literally just watched the movie.

1236
01:00:15,240 --> 01:00:19,040
Speaker 1: That's so bad. No it is, yes, it is. It

1237
01:00:19,160 --> 01:00:21,880
Speaker 1: is something like that. Oh I can't No, it's Odell.

1238
01:00:22,000 --> 01:00:28,040
Speaker 1: It's Odell, I promisee. Robie Robi, yes, yeah, and oh

1239
01:00:28,080 --> 01:00:32,000
Speaker 1: my god, Jackie Brown, yeah, yes, Orde Roby, Ordell Roby.

1240
01:00:32,200 --> 01:00:37,760
Speaker 1: And Robert de Niro's character was hilarious, hilarious. I was

1241
01:00:37,880 --> 01:00:39,880
Speaker 1: very surprised when I saw Robert Denire in that movie.

1242
01:00:40,280 --> 01:00:41,880
Speaker 1: I was like, what is he doing here? Did he

1243
01:00:42,000 --> 01:00:45,400
Speaker 1: just is? Like, I have one wish since we're close

1244
01:00:45,440 --> 01:00:47,760
Speaker 1: to Hollywood, it's just being a pitch meeting with Tarantino.

1245
01:00:48,480 --> 01:00:50,760
Speaker 1: Because if you can pitch de Niro to take that role,

1246
01:00:51,360 --> 01:00:53,600
Speaker 1: that must be a hell of a pitch meeting. Yeah. Yeah,

1247
01:00:53,720 --> 01:00:55,800
Speaker 1: that's that's really cool. Once upon a Time in Hollywood

1248
01:00:55,800 --> 01:00:57,960
Speaker 1: also coming out also in July as well, So I'm

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Speaker 1: excited for that Carve. That's not a family movie. That

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Speaker 1: is definitely on a family. No, we can't, can't. No Tarantino,

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Speaker 1: all right, any other parting shots? Uh oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: bringing out the back. That's right. Um, what episode are

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Speaker 1: we on, uh, ninety six, ninety seven, ninety seven because

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Speaker 1: you asked me that and I texted you, Oh, Eugene

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Speaker 1: Sims my family market box and watches Between the Horn. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: and they care about you, okay, de facto far really

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Speaker 1: they said it was unfair that you didn't have a

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Speaker 1: security blanket. Oh my god, we brought you one. DeMarco

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Speaker 1: just gave me a pink, a pink security blanket. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: this is fantastic. That's my oldest daughter. She's eighteen though. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: so she she she's she's giving that to you. I

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Speaker 1: have my own woobee, Yes you do. That's amazing. Name

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Speaker 1: it Jared, No, name it Cooper Cooper. Yeah right there.

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Speaker 1: All right, I think we're gonna have to finish off

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Speaker 1: on that. Everybody. Thanks so much for tuning into this

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Speaker 1: edition of Between the Horns for DeMarco Farm Miles Simmons.

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Speaker 1: We will see you in a couple of weeks. Rabbit Rabbit, Rabbit, Rabbit,