1 00:00:04,200 --> 00:00:07,280 Speaker 1: Hey guys, here we are back on normally. The show 2 00:00:07,320 --> 00:00:09,799 Speaker 1: was normalish takes for when the news gets weird. 3 00:00:09,880 --> 00:00:11,000 Speaker 2: I'm Mary Katherine. 4 00:00:10,720 --> 00:00:14,160 Speaker 3: Ham, Carol Markowitz, I'm Mary Catherine. How's it going. 5 00:00:14,480 --> 00:00:15,680 Speaker 2: It's going all right. 6 00:00:16,680 --> 00:00:19,640 Speaker 3: Well. I don't know if you saw, but the media 7 00:00:19,720 --> 00:00:25,639 Speaker 3: has some complaints about access to Donald Trump. It's mid November, 8 00:00:25,840 --> 00:00:29,600 Speaker 3: November twentieth right now, we're recording this, and they are 9 00:00:29,680 --> 00:00:32,760 Speaker 3: concerned that he has not had a press conference yet. 10 00:00:33,479 --> 00:00:35,040 Speaker 2: I see. Is that important now? 11 00:00:36,080 --> 00:00:40,040 Speaker 3: Apparently yes, and they're quite worked up about it. Politico 12 00:00:40,200 --> 00:00:43,320 Speaker 3: had a piece about it, and Brian Stelter highlighted it, 13 00:00:43,440 --> 00:00:47,639 Speaker 3: quoting two weeks after winning the presidency, Donald Trump has 14 00:00:47,720 --> 00:00:51,239 Speaker 3: yet to hold a press conference. And it's like, I 15 00:00:51,520 --> 00:00:55,400 Speaker 3: just wish I had this level of goal that these 16 00:00:55,440 --> 00:01:00,320 Speaker 3: people have. I mean, Joe Biden went months without a 17 00:01:00,320 --> 00:01:02,920 Speaker 3: press conference and nobody had a problem with it. In fact, 18 00:01:03,280 --> 00:01:06,120 Speaker 3: the very same people were covering up the fact that 19 00:01:06,160 --> 00:01:08,240 Speaker 3: he hadn't had a press conference by saying like, oh, 20 00:01:08,280 --> 00:01:10,240 Speaker 3: he you know, he talks to us sometimes, just not 21 00:01:10,400 --> 00:01:15,440 Speaker 3: like in conference form. I just the level of shamelessness 22 00:01:15,520 --> 00:01:17,240 Speaker 3: I really aspired to it. 23 00:01:17,760 --> 00:01:22,199 Speaker 1: No, I think the level of shamelessness is I sound 24 00:01:22,240 --> 00:01:24,400 Speaker 1: like a broken record, But it's one of the reasons 25 00:01:24,440 --> 00:01:30,039 Speaker 1: people turned right in this election is because you have 26 00:01:30,160 --> 00:01:33,080 Speaker 1: a group of people who are very rich and very 27 00:01:33,120 --> 00:01:38,240 Speaker 1: powerful not holding the very powerful to account as long 28 00:01:38,280 --> 00:01:41,360 Speaker 1: as they're on their side. Yep, it's very obvious that's 29 00:01:41,360 --> 00:01:44,800 Speaker 1: what's happening. And then as soon as they change their 30 00:01:44,840 --> 00:01:49,120 Speaker 1: minds about an issue, about a politician, about a figure, 31 00:01:49,240 --> 00:01:52,360 Speaker 1: whatever it is, as soon as they change their minds, 32 00:01:52,960 --> 00:01:56,279 Speaker 1: they tell the rest of us. Now you can believe 33 00:01:56,320 --> 00:01:59,640 Speaker 1: that now it's okay to think press can give us. 34 00:01:59,520 --> 00:02:02,440 Speaker 3: A line, give us the line. Now it can be told. 35 00:02:02,760 --> 00:02:05,200 Speaker 1: Now it can be told, and now it can be 36 00:02:05,240 --> 00:02:09,000 Speaker 1: told that press conferences by important leaders are actually important. 37 00:02:09,560 --> 00:02:13,400 Speaker 1: But the thing is, once you've abandoned that idea for 38 00:02:13,480 --> 00:02:16,959 Speaker 1: the sake of Joe Biden and Kamala Harris who did 39 00:02:16,960 --> 00:02:19,919 Speaker 1: not talk to press for like six weeks of her 40 00:02:20,120 --> 00:02:24,720 Speaker 1: very truncated campaign, people don't believe you anymore. 41 00:02:25,120 --> 00:02:27,959 Speaker 3: Right, nobody's going to get upset about this other than 42 00:02:28,000 --> 00:02:31,440 Speaker 3: political and Brian Stelter, everybody else is going to say, wait, 43 00:02:32,000 --> 00:02:35,000 Speaker 3: you didn't say a word when Biden wasn't doing the 44 00:02:35,040 --> 00:02:37,960 Speaker 3: press conferences. If you didn't say a word when Kamala 45 00:02:38,000 --> 00:02:41,000 Speaker 3: Harris wasn't sitting down with people. We don't believe you 46 00:02:41,120 --> 00:02:43,320 Speaker 3: that you think this is a concern. I think that's 47 00:02:43,360 --> 00:02:47,840 Speaker 3: exactly it. It's that we don't trust your opinion anymore. 48 00:02:47,919 --> 00:02:50,000 Speaker 3: It's not even the facts. We don't believe that you 49 00:02:50,080 --> 00:02:52,480 Speaker 3: care about this, so stop pretending that you do. 50 00:02:53,560 --> 00:02:57,559 Speaker 1: We could use the famous line of Stephanie Rule of MSNBC, 51 00:02:57,600 --> 00:02:59,840 Speaker 1: who appeared on Real Time with Bill Maher and said, look, 52 00:03:00,040 --> 00:03:04,120 Speaker 1: don't live in nirvana. Okay, Now she was referencing Kamala 53 00:03:04,200 --> 00:03:08,000 Speaker 1: Harris because Brett Stevens was saying had the groundbreaking idea 54 00:03:08,000 --> 00:03:11,560 Speaker 1: that maybe Kamala Harris should take questions, and his journalist 55 00:03:11,760 --> 00:03:15,240 Speaker 1: was like, no, I'm against journalism right now, and we 56 00:03:15,320 --> 00:03:17,760 Speaker 1: don't live in nirvana. But I'm sure Stephanie Rule is 57 00:03:17,840 --> 00:03:21,720 Speaker 1: pro journalism again because Donald Trump will be in power. 58 00:03:21,639 --> 00:03:24,120 Speaker 3: Right And of course what ended up happening is that 59 00:03:24,200 --> 00:03:27,480 Speaker 3: Stephanie Rule stepped into nirvana and got an interview with 60 00:03:27,560 --> 00:03:28,880 Speaker 3: Kamala Harris. 61 00:03:28,919 --> 00:03:30,639 Speaker 2: So strange how that worked out. 62 00:03:30,680 --> 00:03:32,680 Speaker 3: You know, it was like all she had to say 63 00:03:32,919 --> 00:03:37,160 Speaker 3: was I you know, she shouldn't face tough questions, and boom, Nirvana. 64 00:03:37,320 --> 00:03:37,840 Speaker 3: There she is. 65 00:03:38,800 --> 00:03:43,000 Speaker 1: I just think there is a real short runway on 66 00:03:43,240 --> 00:03:47,040 Speaker 1: media that will not do introspection about this. The money's 67 00:03:47,120 --> 00:03:52,040 Speaker 1: running out, the viewership is running out, And frankly, I 68 00:03:52,080 --> 00:03:55,760 Speaker 1: would not be upset if Trump did a press conference 69 00:03:55,800 --> 00:03:58,000 Speaker 1: and had a bunch of podcasters come in and take 70 00:03:58,040 --> 00:03:59,200 Speaker 1: their questions instead. 71 00:03:59,320 --> 00:04:01,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, so good to be better. 72 00:04:01,400 --> 00:04:04,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, imagine Joe Rogan like in the press briefing room. 73 00:04:05,800 --> 00:04:08,760 Speaker 2: Yes please, smoking a big fat blunt. 74 00:04:09,200 --> 00:04:11,680 Speaker 1: I mean, this is a thing that should be disrupted. Actually, 75 00:04:11,880 --> 00:04:14,600 Speaker 1: all of those front seats, yeah, in the briefing room 76 00:04:14,640 --> 00:04:17,200 Speaker 1: have gone to the same people forever and ever and ever. 77 00:04:17,680 --> 00:04:21,159 Speaker 1: Those people haven't served the people they should be serving, 78 00:04:21,360 --> 00:04:24,560 Speaker 1: like the people who would like to know information for 79 00:04:24,640 --> 00:04:27,200 Speaker 1: a long time. And I think, you know, a little 80 00:04:27,279 --> 00:04:29,760 Speaker 1: dust up about who sits where and who gets what 81 00:04:30,720 --> 00:04:33,359 Speaker 1: question would be good. Although the problem is that people 82 00:04:33,360 --> 00:04:34,840 Speaker 1: like Joe Rogan are like, I'm not going to sit 83 00:04:34,880 --> 00:04:35,599 Speaker 1: in the press room and. 84 00:04:35,600 --> 00:04:39,400 Speaker 3: Why would I want to do that? That's crazy, you know. 85 00:04:39,520 --> 00:04:43,240 Speaker 3: But to your point about media struggling and are they 86 00:04:43,279 --> 00:04:47,280 Speaker 3: going to do that introspection? Brian Stelter, we quoted him 87 00:04:47,320 --> 00:04:51,000 Speaker 3: last episode as saying all these things that you know, 88 00:04:51,080 --> 00:04:54,120 Speaker 3: he is doing introspection and then he highlights this piece 89 00:04:54,160 --> 00:04:58,160 Speaker 3: about Trump not doing press conferences. It's like they want 90 00:04:58,200 --> 00:05:01,400 Speaker 3: to do introspection. They just can't white get there. They're like, 91 00:05:01,720 --> 00:05:03,520 Speaker 3: this is what we should do, and then they start 92 00:05:03,560 --> 00:05:05,560 Speaker 3: doing it. They're like, nah, I don't. 93 00:05:05,400 --> 00:05:08,719 Speaker 2: Know, well, I think because it's hard. Yeah, it would 94 00:05:08,720 --> 00:05:09,159 Speaker 2: be hard. 95 00:05:09,520 --> 00:05:12,520 Speaker 1: It'd be hard to have, like for them to have 96 00:05:12,600 --> 00:05:14,440 Speaker 1: like two Scott Jennings on a panel. 97 00:05:14,640 --> 00:05:15,560 Speaker 2: Sure, that'd be hard. 98 00:05:15,440 --> 00:05:19,640 Speaker 3: To imagine that, right, Yeah, they had Scott Jennings and 99 00:05:19,760 --> 00:05:22,280 Speaker 3: Coleman Hughes one time and that panel was like game 100 00:05:22,360 --> 00:05:23,559 Speaker 3: over for everybody else. 101 00:05:24,240 --> 00:05:27,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's that's that's going to be problematic for everyone 102 00:05:28,160 --> 00:05:32,719 Speaker 1: or just like people who maybe aren't dedicated partisans. This 103 00:05:32,800 --> 00:05:35,960 Speaker 1: is the problem is that that any person in journalism 104 00:05:36,320 --> 00:05:39,920 Speaker 1: who is right of center or more normy gets relegated 105 00:05:39,960 --> 00:05:43,400 Speaker 1: to opinion journalism because their take is you can't do 106 00:05:43,560 --> 00:05:46,920 Speaker 1: news if you are a right of center person. In fact, 107 00:05:46,960 --> 00:05:49,760 Speaker 1: I think you see a lot more stories if you 108 00:05:49,800 --> 00:05:52,000 Speaker 1: are a right of center person, and you should be 109 00:05:52,040 --> 00:05:53,560 Speaker 1: part of those decisions, right. 110 00:05:53,640 --> 00:05:55,919 Speaker 3: And it's like today, you know there's this news that 111 00:05:56,040 --> 00:06:01,279 Speaker 3: Comcast is planning to spin off MSNBC. You know, it's 112 00:06:01,320 --> 00:06:04,799 Speaker 3: not going well for them, and they still won't change direction. 113 00:06:05,000 --> 00:06:09,039 Speaker 3: They still won't do things that might increase viewership, like 114 00:06:09,080 --> 00:06:13,120 Speaker 3: again bringing in different points of view, having debate. People 115 00:06:13,200 --> 00:06:15,640 Speaker 3: actually love seeing arguing. 116 00:06:15,839 --> 00:06:16,040 Speaker 1: You know. 117 00:06:16,360 --> 00:06:21,359 Speaker 3: John Stuart famously went on CNN and yelled at it 118 00:06:21,400 --> 00:06:24,400 Speaker 3: was Tucker Carlson and Paul Begala. I think he yelled 119 00:06:24,440 --> 00:06:27,040 Speaker 3: exact crossfire, right, he yelled a crossfire, and he said 120 00:06:27,080 --> 00:06:29,440 Speaker 3: they were bad for the country, and like, how dare they? 121 00:06:29,720 --> 00:06:31,919 Speaker 3: I think that was great for the country to see 122 00:06:31,960 --> 00:06:36,680 Speaker 3: two smart people arguing their points of view. I think 123 00:06:36,680 --> 00:06:39,480 Speaker 3: what's bad for the country is having John Stuart clown 124 00:06:39,520 --> 00:06:42,160 Speaker 3: nose on, clown nose off. I'm a comedian, no, I'm 125 00:06:42,160 --> 00:06:45,279 Speaker 3: a newscaster. That's bad for the country. These people think 126 00:06:45,279 --> 00:06:47,720 Speaker 3: that's news. I don't think it was bad at all 127 00:06:47,839 --> 00:06:51,920 Speaker 3: to have disagreement and occasionally even yeah, shouting, yelling. Sure. 128 00:06:53,160 --> 00:06:55,919 Speaker 3: I think that's what people need to see, and then 129 00:06:55,960 --> 00:06:57,839 Speaker 3: they need to see those two people go get a 130 00:06:57,839 --> 00:07:01,240 Speaker 3: beer in Washington, d C. Afterwards, because that's what used 131 00:07:01,240 --> 00:07:04,120 Speaker 3: to happen. I would blow people's minds with how many 132 00:07:04,160 --> 00:07:08,760 Speaker 3: people from MSNBC love, for example, and Culter, You have 133 00:07:08,880 --> 00:07:12,080 Speaker 3: no idea their audiences would lay down and die if 134 00:07:12,120 --> 00:07:13,920 Speaker 3: they knew how many of the you know, the host 135 00:07:14,040 --> 00:07:14,760 Speaker 3: she hangs out with. 136 00:07:15,640 --> 00:07:19,120 Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, by the way, I heard that, speaking 137 00:07:19,120 --> 00:07:21,640 Speaker 1: of MSNBC types and how they're coping. I heard that 138 00:07:22,160 --> 00:07:27,240 Speaker 1: Rachel Maddow did a post election like freak out monologue 139 00:07:27,240 --> 00:07:29,000 Speaker 1: that was over twenty minutes. 140 00:07:29,640 --> 00:07:32,040 Speaker 2: So it's like, look, but. 141 00:07:31,920 --> 00:07:34,800 Speaker 1: That's one thing. I let me give her this. I 142 00:07:34,840 --> 00:07:38,080 Speaker 1: think long form is good for people. I think that's 143 00:07:38,120 --> 00:07:41,120 Speaker 1: why podcasts do well. They want to hear more than 144 00:07:41,200 --> 00:07:44,000 Speaker 1: two minutes of people arguing a point. They want to 145 00:07:44,040 --> 00:07:46,960 Speaker 1: hear a guy like Joe Rogan who's curious and will 146 00:07:47,080 --> 00:07:51,320 Speaker 1: ask some critical questions but is not hating on the 147 00:07:51,360 --> 00:07:53,040 Speaker 1: person sitting across from him. 148 00:07:53,440 --> 00:07:53,640 Speaker 3: Right. 149 00:07:53,720 --> 00:07:57,360 Speaker 2: People like that stuff, and the numbers show it. Yeah, 150 00:07:57,400 --> 00:07:59,120 Speaker 2: I agree, Maybe not a Rachel maddout form. 151 00:07:59,240 --> 00:08:02,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm not sure twenty minutes of Rachel Maddow is 152 00:08:02,360 --> 00:08:05,440 Speaker 3: exactly what the people are wanting. But you know, who 153 00:08:05,480 --> 00:08:08,400 Speaker 3: knows she is one of the higher rated people on MSNBC. 154 00:08:08,640 --> 00:08:12,040 Speaker 3: It's not like, but the whole channel in general is 155 00:08:12,400 --> 00:08:14,680 Speaker 3: you know, I don't know who coined this phrase, but 156 00:08:14,760 --> 00:08:18,800 Speaker 3: Dave Rubin likes to use it televised mental asylum. You know, 157 00:08:19,200 --> 00:08:23,720 Speaker 3: they're just all in like states of crazy. And you know, 158 00:08:23,880 --> 00:08:25,559 Speaker 3: we talked about it, but I watched it an election 159 00:08:25,680 --> 00:08:28,160 Speaker 3: night because I wanted to see them react to Donald 160 00:08:28,200 --> 00:08:31,280 Speaker 3: Trump's win, and it was a madhouse. It was people 161 00:08:31,520 --> 00:08:35,240 Speaker 3: just breaking down in all different kinds of ways, and 162 00:08:35,800 --> 00:08:38,520 Speaker 3: you know, it just it is not a good scene 163 00:08:38,559 --> 00:08:39,000 Speaker 3: over there. 164 00:08:39,360 --> 00:08:42,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think that there isn't a level of emotionalism 165 00:08:42,520 --> 00:08:46,360 Speaker 1: that is required in those spaces that I don't think 166 00:08:47,040 --> 00:08:50,120 Speaker 1: normal people respond well to. And there were times at 167 00:08:50,160 --> 00:08:53,200 Speaker 1: CNN when I just was I was even agreeing with 168 00:08:53,240 --> 00:08:55,640 Speaker 1: someone else's point, but they'd be upset with me because 169 00:08:55,640 --> 00:08:59,440 Speaker 1: I wasn't upset enough. And that is sort of a 170 00:08:59,559 --> 00:09:02,400 Speaker 1: character stick of woke communications is that if you're not 171 00:09:02,559 --> 00:09:05,480 Speaker 1: mirroring my emotions, then you're a bad person. 172 00:09:05,760 --> 00:09:08,040 Speaker 2: And I'm not here to mirror your emotions. I'm here 173 00:09:08,080 --> 00:09:09,359 Speaker 2: to talk about. 174 00:09:09,120 --> 00:09:12,240 Speaker 1: The news, right, So I think I think that doesn't 175 00:09:12,280 --> 00:09:15,440 Speaker 1: serve people well and will continue not to. 176 00:09:17,000 --> 00:09:18,920 Speaker 3: I want to just say one more thing about that, 177 00:09:19,040 --> 00:09:22,480 Speaker 3: about what you're saying with the emotions, we don't see 178 00:09:22,840 --> 00:09:26,640 Speaker 3: that same kind of emotion thing on Fox. On Fox, 179 00:09:26,679 --> 00:09:29,480 Speaker 3: they were very upset that Donald Trump lost in twenty twenty. 180 00:09:29,520 --> 00:09:32,120 Speaker 3: Some of them, you know, maybe had trouble accepting it. 181 00:09:33,120 --> 00:09:36,920 Speaker 3: Nobody was crying, nobody was breaking down, nobody was saying, 182 00:09:37,000 --> 00:09:42,080 Speaker 3: let's scrap our entire American experiment and try again. I 183 00:09:42,160 --> 00:09:46,560 Speaker 3: just you don't see that level of tears and just 184 00:09:47,360 --> 00:09:50,560 Speaker 3: ballads and of garments, all of that. You just don't 185 00:09:50,559 --> 00:09:52,160 Speaker 3: see it on Fox, And you don't see it on 186 00:09:52,200 --> 00:09:53,800 Speaker 3: News Max. You know, don't see it on any of 187 00:09:53,840 --> 00:09:58,199 Speaker 3: the kind of conservative world podcasts. And I don't know 188 00:09:58,200 --> 00:10:01,920 Speaker 3: if there's just conservatives react differently, need to setbacks. But 189 00:10:02,280 --> 00:10:06,040 Speaker 3: I wouldn't want to see these people like super upset 190 00:10:06,040 --> 00:10:08,520 Speaker 3: about a presidential election. I would want to hear them 191 00:10:08,559 --> 00:10:12,120 Speaker 3: say this is how we're going to improve, move forward, 192 00:10:12,440 --> 00:10:14,840 Speaker 3: change things. That's what I would want to hear from 193 00:10:14,960 --> 00:10:16,120 Speaker 3: people on my side. 194 00:10:16,400 --> 00:10:20,239 Speaker 1: Despite being a free speech absolutist, I would outlaw immediately 195 00:10:20,559 --> 00:10:24,560 Speaker 1: crying selfie videos if I were given such a power. 196 00:10:24,840 --> 00:10:27,360 Speaker 2: So that is my one exception to the First Amendment. 197 00:10:27,440 --> 00:10:29,120 Speaker 3: We'll be right back on normally. 198 00:10:32,800 --> 00:10:35,320 Speaker 1: You know what might create some crying selfie videos is 199 00:10:35,640 --> 00:10:39,240 Speaker 1: the naming of Linda McMahon to the head of the 200 00:10:39,280 --> 00:10:44,760 Speaker 1: Department of Education. We've already got some response from education 201 00:10:45,000 --> 00:10:46,720 Speaker 1: gurus such as Becky. 202 00:10:46,440 --> 00:10:49,079 Speaker 2: Pringle, who is the head of one of the large 203 00:10:49,120 --> 00:10:49,840 Speaker 2: teachers union. 204 00:10:49,920 --> 00:10:54,240 Speaker 1: Students deserve better than an extreme and unqualified Secretary of Education. 205 00:10:54,600 --> 00:10:57,240 Speaker 1: By selecting Linda McMahon, Donald Trump shows that he could 206 00:10:57,240 --> 00:10:59,959 Speaker 1: not care less about our student's futures. Instead of strength 207 00:11:00,080 --> 00:11:03,000 Speaker 1: fitting our nation's schools, Donald Trump has picked Betsy Devas 208 00:11:03,080 --> 00:11:03,960 Speaker 1: two point zero. 209 00:11:04,160 --> 00:11:06,839 Speaker 2: Calm down, beck Ye, I already like her. Now I 210 00:11:06,880 --> 00:11:07,679 Speaker 2: want to sell me on her. 211 00:11:08,920 --> 00:11:14,520 Speaker 1: So. Linda McMahon is a former WWE executive, wife of 212 00:11:14,600 --> 00:11:18,679 Speaker 1: Vince McMahon. They built it from a tiny Northeastern regional 213 00:11:18,760 --> 00:11:26,640 Speaker 1: business of like extreme sports and pageantry, this huge brand 214 00:11:26,800 --> 00:11:29,319 Speaker 1: and huge business. She was the head of it forever. 215 00:11:30,480 --> 00:11:32,880 Speaker 1: She is a business person and a person who has 216 00:11:32,960 --> 00:11:36,240 Speaker 1: managed a lot of people, so she's got that going 217 00:11:36,280 --> 00:11:38,800 Speaker 1: for her. She was actually on the Connecticut Board of 218 00:11:38,880 --> 00:11:41,880 Speaker 1: Education State Board of Education for a year before running 219 00:11:41,880 --> 00:11:46,160 Speaker 1: for office and losing because it's Connecticut and she's a Republican, 220 00:11:46,400 --> 00:11:50,640 Speaker 1: right for Senate. She also headed the Small Business Administration 221 00:11:51,160 --> 00:11:54,960 Speaker 1: during the first Trump administration, so here she is Department 222 00:11:55,000 --> 00:11:57,520 Speaker 1: of Education head Linda McMahon and a big school choice advocate, 223 00:11:57,520 --> 00:11:59,000 Speaker 1: which is going to make people mad. 224 00:11:59,040 --> 00:11:59,960 Speaker 2: What do you think of this? 225 00:12:00,679 --> 00:12:03,120 Speaker 3: I love it. It's such a good choice. I think 226 00:12:03,160 --> 00:12:07,840 Speaker 3: she's so smart and so dedicated to the students of America. 227 00:12:07,920 --> 00:12:11,080 Speaker 3: I think she's really just a terrific person. I love 228 00:12:11,160 --> 00:12:14,280 Speaker 3: obviously that Becky Pringle is mad about it. Again, you're right, 229 00:12:14,280 --> 00:12:17,000 Speaker 3: Betsy Devas two point zero, Like, Wow, that's all I 230 00:12:17,040 --> 00:12:21,120 Speaker 3: really want to hear. Cory DeAngelis, he's a school choice activist. 231 00:12:21,240 --> 00:12:25,920 Speaker 3: He loves commenting on all the you know, Becky Pringle 232 00:12:26,080 --> 00:12:29,320 Speaker 3: and Randy Wingarden tweets, and they're always so excellent. But 233 00:12:29,360 --> 00:12:32,240 Speaker 3: one thing that he commented to Becky's tweet, he said, 234 00:12:32,520 --> 00:12:35,120 Speaker 3: the government school system has become more of a jobs 235 00:12:35,160 --> 00:12:38,600 Speaker 3: program for adults than an education initiative for kids. And 236 00:12:38,640 --> 00:12:42,360 Speaker 3: he posted a chart where principal administration staff it's like, 237 00:12:42,679 --> 00:12:47,160 Speaker 3: you know, super high spending on students is super super low, 238 00:12:47,600 --> 00:12:51,199 Speaker 3: spending on you know, assistant principles and all of that 239 00:12:51,480 --> 00:12:55,520 Speaker 3: very high. It just we're not spending money correctly. And 240 00:12:55,960 --> 00:12:58,520 Speaker 3: I don't want a jobs program for adults. I don't 241 00:12:58,520 --> 00:13:00,880 Speaker 3: know what the Educate Board of Education and I'm sorry 242 00:13:00,920 --> 00:13:05,120 Speaker 3: the Education Department does anymore. On a national level, our 243 00:13:05,400 --> 00:13:09,520 Speaker 3: scores have been, you know, just in the toilet for years, 244 00:13:09,920 --> 00:13:13,000 Speaker 3: and it's pathetic. We can't let this continue go on. 245 00:13:14,679 --> 00:13:19,160 Speaker 3: We're afraid of these school you know, union people, teacher 246 00:13:19,280 --> 00:13:21,840 Speaker 3: union people, and we're not allowed to fight back. I 247 00:13:21,840 --> 00:13:23,880 Speaker 3: think this is the moment to say, we're not going 248 00:13:23,920 --> 00:13:26,400 Speaker 3: to stand for this anymore. The last four years in 249 00:13:26,440 --> 00:13:31,160 Speaker 3: particular been awful for education, and Randy Weingarten and Brecky 250 00:13:31,320 --> 00:13:33,600 Speaker 3: Kringle not being in the White House on day one 251 00:13:33,640 --> 00:13:36,760 Speaker 3: the way they were last time around is really I mean, 252 00:13:37,120 --> 00:13:39,160 Speaker 3: all the reasons you need to be happy about a 253 00:13:39,200 --> 00:13:39,959 Speaker 3: Donald Trump win. 254 00:13:40,440 --> 00:13:43,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a win in and of itself. And the 255 00:13:43,240 --> 00:13:46,679 Speaker 1: same people who will tell you that you need a 256 00:13:47,120 --> 00:13:53,600 Speaker 1: deeply education like pedagogy educated type of person in this position, 257 00:13:53,679 --> 00:13:56,800 Speaker 1: who's like a dedicated bureaucrat who's been in the Department 258 00:13:56,840 --> 00:14:00,480 Speaker 1: of Education for years, they're the same people who will 259 00:14:00,520 --> 00:14:03,120 Speaker 1: tell you who told you that like shutting down schools 260 00:14:03,160 --> 00:14:05,560 Speaker 1: for eighteen months two years would be no big deal. Okay, 261 00:14:05,920 --> 00:14:09,400 Speaker 1: So I don't listen to those people anymore. I think 262 00:14:09,400 --> 00:14:12,640 Speaker 1: that McMahon, because she headed a giant organization in the 263 00:14:12,679 --> 00:14:16,040 Speaker 1: past has managerial skills and skills to figure out what's 264 00:14:16,080 --> 00:14:16,720 Speaker 1: going on here. 265 00:14:17,200 --> 00:14:17,480 Speaker 3: Yep. 266 00:14:17,640 --> 00:14:20,000 Speaker 1: The Department of Education has like a two hundred and 267 00:14:20,040 --> 00:14:23,400 Speaker 1: twenty billion dollar budget or something like that. The federal 268 00:14:23,440 --> 00:14:26,200 Speaker 1: dollars from the Department of Education make up about eight 269 00:14:26,280 --> 00:14:29,360 Speaker 1: percent of K through twelve schools budgets, with the rest 270 00:14:29,400 --> 00:14:31,560 Speaker 1: coming from state and local taxes. So this is one 271 00:14:31,560 --> 00:14:33,640 Speaker 1: of those moments where like, don't freak out when they 272 00:14:33,720 --> 00:14:37,600 Speaker 1: talk about cutting the Department of Education's budget or making 273 00:14:37,640 --> 00:14:40,120 Speaker 1: it smaller and more lean. A lot of it is 274 00:14:40,200 --> 00:14:46,000 Speaker 1: just like slush fund federal dollars for all these administrators 275 00:14:46,400 --> 00:14:50,160 Speaker 1: for various programs that clearly don't work for federal loans 276 00:14:50,160 --> 00:14:53,920 Speaker 1: for education, which then they forgive on the nationally. 277 00:14:54,720 --> 00:14:57,120 Speaker 2: So that's what's going on over at education. 278 00:14:57,200 --> 00:15:00,200 Speaker 1: So I am. I am very open to the side 279 00:15:00,520 --> 00:15:03,400 Speaker 1: and to someone who has fought for school choice and 280 00:15:03,520 --> 00:15:06,600 Speaker 1: is a fan of it. Because a lot of parents 281 00:15:06,680 --> 00:15:10,280 Speaker 1: learned in twenty twenty that they needed an escape patch. Yep, 282 00:15:10,520 --> 00:15:13,400 Speaker 1: a lot of them have taken it, and I hope 283 00:15:13,400 --> 00:15:15,280 Speaker 1: that a lot of people get the chance to take 284 00:15:15,320 --> 00:15:18,119 Speaker 1: it more often. By the way, North Carolina passed a 285 00:15:18,160 --> 00:15:21,400 Speaker 1: school choice. Nice bill and over wrote a veto from 286 00:15:21,440 --> 00:15:25,000 Speaker 1: the Democratic governor, who was, of course an ally of teachers' unions. 287 00:15:25,760 --> 00:15:28,720 Speaker 1: So good to see progress on this in many many states. 288 00:15:28,880 --> 00:15:31,720 Speaker 3: Yep, may Linda. You know, if not burn it all down, 289 00:15:31,800 --> 00:15:35,640 Speaker 3: then at least fix it all and not give Becky 290 00:15:35,720 --> 00:15:36,800 Speaker 3: Kringle what she wants. 291 00:15:37,000 --> 00:15:38,920 Speaker 1: By the way, I was reading up on Lynda McMahon, 292 00:15:39,080 --> 00:15:42,920 Speaker 1: one of the interesting things I found out is that 293 00:15:43,160 --> 00:15:47,520 Speaker 1: a she started a voter registration smacked down your vote 294 00:15:47,600 --> 00:15:49,920 Speaker 1: as part of the wwe Love It. 295 00:15:50,120 --> 00:15:50,360 Speaker 2: Okay. 296 00:15:50,720 --> 00:15:54,440 Speaker 1: Do you remember those library posters from the nineties with 297 00:15:54,680 --> 00:15:57,440 Speaker 1: the ww with the wrestling stars on them and it 298 00:15:57,520 --> 00:16:01,320 Speaker 1: said know your role read had like the rock on it. 299 00:16:01,680 --> 00:16:05,680 Speaker 3: Okay, your school is clearly cooler than mine. 300 00:16:05,880 --> 00:16:06,160 Speaker 2: I have. 301 00:16:06,480 --> 00:16:09,400 Speaker 1: I have a theory that smacked down your vote and 302 00:16:09,920 --> 00:16:13,160 Speaker 1: know your Role read posters led to the gen X 303 00:16:13,800 --> 00:16:15,080 Speaker 1: landslide for Trump. Oh. 304 00:16:15,160 --> 00:16:16,320 Speaker 2: Interesting, that's what it was. 305 00:16:16,800 --> 00:16:19,800 Speaker 1: So Linda's getting her She's done her part. 306 00:16:20,120 --> 00:16:21,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, thank you, Linda. 307 00:16:21,480 --> 00:16:21,800 Speaker 2: Goodness. 308 00:16:21,880 --> 00:16:24,000 Speaker 1: What else do we have on the docket today, Doctor 309 00:16:24,080 --> 00:16:29,640 Speaker 1: mehmet oz to centers for Medicare and Medicaid services. This 310 00:16:29,720 --> 00:16:34,120 Speaker 1: is really like, that's not a sexy. 311 00:16:32,920 --> 00:16:36,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I don't know that. That's the only thing 312 00:16:36,000 --> 00:16:39,120 Speaker 3: that kind of gives me like consolation about it, because 313 00:16:39,120 --> 00:16:42,440 Speaker 3: otherwise I'm not a fan of this pic. I just 314 00:16:42,960 --> 00:16:46,160 Speaker 3: he must really care about this because he doesn't need 315 00:16:46,200 --> 00:16:49,560 Speaker 3: the money. It's not a glamorous position. Again, like we 316 00:16:49,600 --> 00:16:51,640 Speaker 3: as we talked about in a previous episode. He's not 317 00:16:51,720 --> 00:16:53,920 Speaker 3: the ambassador to jerks and caicos, which is what my 318 00:16:54,080 --> 00:16:57,760 Speaker 3: pig would be. I don't know. He must want this, 319 00:16:57,880 --> 00:17:01,920 Speaker 3: he must have wanted to work on this, so that's 320 00:17:01,920 --> 00:17:02,280 Speaker 3: the only thing. 321 00:17:02,880 --> 00:17:05,280 Speaker 1: Running out of money, right, But what do you want 322 00:17:05,280 --> 00:17:05,760 Speaker 1: to do with those? 323 00:17:05,800 --> 00:17:08,640 Speaker 2: Do something fun? Do some accounting, right. 324 00:17:08,480 --> 00:17:11,240 Speaker 3: Because otherwise I don't know. I don't want it to 325 00:17:11,280 --> 00:17:15,639 Speaker 3: become too much of the TV administration, because look, some 326 00:17:15,720 --> 00:17:18,320 Speaker 3: of the picks are amazing. I you know, we talked 327 00:17:18,359 --> 00:17:20,840 Speaker 3: about Pete Hegseat, I love Sean Duffy. I think those 328 00:17:20,880 --> 00:17:24,800 Speaker 3: are both fantastic choices. Doctor Oz. I just don't know, 329 00:17:25,040 --> 00:17:28,400 Speaker 3: and I am hoping to see I'm hoping to be wrong. 330 00:17:28,440 --> 00:17:32,040 Speaker 3: I'm hoping that like he just deeply cares about this, 331 00:17:32,040 --> 00:17:35,199 Speaker 3: this weird little department, and he's gonna take it with 332 00:17:35,240 --> 00:17:36,240 Speaker 3: both hands and run it. 333 00:17:36,280 --> 00:17:39,679 Speaker 1: Well, yeah, I mean it is somebody called it a 334 00:17:39,720 --> 00:17:43,120 Speaker 1: green eye shade job, like this is like an accounting job. 335 00:17:43,280 --> 00:17:45,560 Speaker 1: So yes, I hope the same he had. He's like 336 00:17:45,720 --> 00:17:48,320 Speaker 1: literally been a doctor. He was a very successful surgeon. 337 00:17:48,359 --> 00:17:52,280 Speaker 1: So the things that people complain about for other nominees 338 00:17:52,640 --> 00:17:57,800 Speaker 1: in health right areas they can't really use on him. 339 00:17:57,119 --> 00:17:59,639 Speaker 3: Except they don't like that he was on TV. That's like, yeah, 340 00:17:59,760 --> 00:18:02,560 Speaker 3: back to this, back to like I'm on TV, but 341 00:18:02,920 --> 00:18:04,639 Speaker 3: you should. 342 00:18:05,400 --> 00:18:06,280 Speaker 2: Yeah. 343 00:18:06,320 --> 00:18:10,040 Speaker 1: Strangely, from the diversity core, we're not hearing a lot 344 00:18:10,080 --> 00:18:13,240 Speaker 1: of cheering for either the first female chief of staff 345 00:18:13,240 --> 00:18:15,960 Speaker 1: the White House or the first Muslim American name to 346 00:18:16,000 --> 00:18:18,400 Speaker 1: a cabinet. Yes, yeah, it's funny that. 347 00:18:19,840 --> 00:18:22,400 Speaker 2: So strange. Does it matter or does it not matter? 348 00:18:22,480 --> 00:18:22,840 Speaker 2: I don't know. 349 00:18:23,200 --> 00:18:25,520 Speaker 3: It doesn't matter when it's a Republican just doesn't count. 350 00:18:26,240 --> 00:18:26,960 Speaker 2: Just doesn't count. 351 00:18:27,440 --> 00:18:32,760 Speaker 1: Speaking of whether those things matter, is it, Carol the 352 00:18:33,040 --> 00:18:37,199 Speaker 1: end of woke? That's one of the things popping up 353 00:18:37,240 --> 00:18:39,440 Speaker 1: in the post election discussion. 354 00:18:39,840 --> 00:18:42,480 Speaker 3: So I actually have a column coming up on Fox 355 00:18:42,520 --> 00:18:46,560 Speaker 3: News tomorrow where I say it's not the end of woke. 356 00:18:46,640 --> 00:18:49,080 Speaker 3: And I'm not just saying that because I feel like 357 00:18:49,119 --> 00:18:50,320 Speaker 3: a lot of people are like, well, you wrote a 358 00:18:50,359 --> 00:18:53,800 Speaker 3: book about woke indoctrination of kids. You want this to 359 00:18:53,840 --> 00:18:56,320 Speaker 3: continue so that your kind of point stands like, No, 360 00:18:56,480 --> 00:18:58,280 Speaker 3: I would love for my book to be irrelevant. I 361 00:18:58,320 --> 00:19:01,000 Speaker 3: would love for it to be completely like, look, look, 362 00:19:01,040 --> 00:19:04,199 Speaker 3: look at this weird historical artifact about crazy things that 363 00:19:04,200 --> 00:19:08,320 Speaker 3: we used to do. But I don't see it quite yet. 364 00:19:08,359 --> 00:19:10,000 Speaker 3: And something I didn't say in the piece that I've 365 00:19:10,040 --> 00:19:13,000 Speaker 3: thought about since then, I think it'll be easier to 366 00:19:13,040 --> 00:19:17,520 Speaker 3: get rid of woke in corporations where there's a bottom line. 367 00:19:17,640 --> 00:19:20,560 Speaker 3: I think we're going to see movement on the woke stuff. 368 00:19:20,760 --> 00:19:22,600 Speaker 3: Where it's going to be a lot harder, is like 369 00:19:22,760 --> 00:19:28,399 Speaker 3: organizations and you know, universities, obviously, accudation societies, all of 370 00:19:28,440 --> 00:19:31,720 Speaker 3: that is ideologically captured and they have no one to 371 00:19:31,800 --> 00:19:35,439 Speaker 3: answer to. So I think we have some examples of 372 00:19:36,720 --> 00:19:40,760 Speaker 3: corporations taking a bit of a shot, yes, continuing wokeness. 373 00:19:41,080 --> 00:19:42,480 Speaker 2: So this is Jaguar. 374 00:19:42,680 --> 00:19:47,800 Speaker 1: Jaguar decided to rebrand this week and they put out 375 00:19:47,840 --> 00:19:50,760 Speaker 1: a new ad. It doesn't have a lot for our 376 00:19:50,840 --> 00:19:52,520 Speaker 1: audio only listeners, so I'm. 377 00:19:52,359 --> 00:19:54,280 Speaker 2: Gonna I'm gonna narrate a bit for you. 378 00:19:55,840 --> 00:19:59,960 Speaker 1: Elevator opens to people of large shoulder pads. 379 00:20:00,040 --> 00:20:00,720 Speaker 2: Nonon finder. 380 00:20:01,960 --> 00:20:07,560 Speaker 1: We have a lot of passionate looking people. 381 00:20:06,520 --> 00:20:13,080 Speaker 2: Ordinary great well passion model parating copy of nothing. And 382 00:20:13,119 --> 00:20:17,040 Speaker 2: then it's the new Jaguar font with jag font. Yeah, 383 00:20:18,040 --> 00:20:19,680 Speaker 2: I don't remember what were they doing. You used to 384 00:20:19,760 --> 00:20:21,760 Speaker 2: have a Jaguar like Jaguars are cool. 385 00:20:21,760 --> 00:20:27,359 Speaker 3: Right, right, and Jaguars are like a sexy car, very 386 00:20:27,480 --> 00:20:32,000 Speaker 3: like glamorous British. It isn't whatever that was. I don't 387 00:20:32,040 --> 00:20:37,480 Speaker 3: know what that was. That was some weird artsy oddness. 388 00:20:37,800 --> 00:20:41,720 Speaker 3: The colors and the shoulder pads and the androgyny and 389 00:20:41,760 --> 00:20:44,760 Speaker 3: all of that. It's just it's so missed the mark 390 00:20:44,920 --> 00:20:47,679 Speaker 3: on this moment, but also so missed the mark on 391 00:20:47,720 --> 00:20:50,840 Speaker 3: the brand. The brand is not that I picture like 392 00:20:51,240 --> 00:20:54,760 Speaker 3: James Bond smoking a cigarette out of his convertible Jaguar 393 00:20:54,840 --> 00:20:58,760 Speaker 3: as he you know, rides around and through British isles 394 00:20:58,840 --> 00:21:00,960 Speaker 3: or whatever. That's that's Jaguar to me. 395 00:21:01,400 --> 00:21:04,040 Speaker 2: Also, notably, no cars in that ad. 396 00:21:05,119 --> 00:21:09,600 Speaker 1: It looked to me like a fashion show in the 397 00:21:09,720 --> 00:21:12,159 Speaker 1: nineties that the sex and the city girls would have 398 00:21:12,240 --> 00:21:14,320 Speaker 1: gone to see and then made fun of. 399 00:21:14,720 --> 00:21:17,159 Speaker 2: Right, That's what that looked like to me. 400 00:21:17,440 --> 00:21:20,560 Speaker 3: And it's more like a spoof, a spoof from Saturday 401 00:21:20,640 --> 00:21:22,960 Speaker 3: Night Live or something, and it's like. 402 00:21:23,600 --> 00:21:25,239 Speaker 1: I know they paid a lot of money for this, 403 00:21:25,480 --> 00:21:27,720 Speaker 1: and I know it was in the pipeline for a while, 404 00:21:27,800 --> 00:21:32,119 Speaker 1: and then it just happens to be debuted right after 405 00:21:32,160 --> 00:21:34,280 Speaker 1: this election, when everybody's kind of like, oh, we can 406 00:21:34,320 --> 00:21:36,280 Speaker 1: all just say that we're done with this now, right, 407 00:21:36,359 --> 00:21:40,120 Speaker 1: We're done with this. Someone suggested it's because they're switching 408 00:21:40,160 --> 00:21:42,879 Speaker 1: to like they're going to be selling all EV's and 409 00:21:42,920 --> 00:21:45,560 Speaker 1: they're going to be super expensive, and I'm like, okay, 410 00:21:45,560 --> 00:21:48,560 Speaker 1: but like someone already does EV's that are really good 411 00:21:49,200 --> 00:21:52,720 Speaker 1: and his name is Elon Musk, and I just don't know, Yeah, 412 00:21:52,760 --> 00:21:54,200 Speaker 1: why why? 413 00:21:54,520 --> 00:21:58,199 Speaker 3: Right? Why? Why change your entire brand to this? That 414 00:21:58,400 --> 00:22:01,040 Speaker 3: fund is so horrible. It's like like I don't even 415 00:22:01,080 --> 00:22:04,439 Speaker 3: know it just it doesn't convey anything. I I'm not 416 00:22:04,520 --> 00:22:07,480 Speaker 3: a huge design person, but that add and it didn't 417 00:22:07,560 --> 00:22:11,080 Speaker 3: rub me the wrong way, even woke wise, it rubbed 418 00:22:11,080 --> 00:22:14,160 Speaker 3: me the wrong way, like product wise, what is this? 419 00:22:14,359 --> 00:22:15,200 Speaker 3: What am I watching? 420 00:22:15,760 --> 00:22:18,359 Speaker 1: Well? I think it's just like clearly too many people 421 00:22:18,440 --> 00:22:22,320 Speaker 1: who don't understand a brand are or the brand's audience 422 00:22:22,600 --> 00:22:26,040 Speaker 1: are in the room making these decisions and maybe exclusively 423 00:22:26,080 --> 00:22:30,720 Speaker 1: making these decisions. That was the bud Light issue. 424 00:22:29,560 --> 00:22:30,840 Speaker 2: Where you end up with like. 425 00:22:30,960 --> 00:22:35,400 Speaker 1: Oh wait, this is the opposite of our audience. 426 00:22:35,520 --> 00:22:36,400 Speaker 2: What did we do? 427 00:22:36,520 --> 00:22:39,639 Speaker 1: And I think a lot of the backlash to this 428 00:22:39,720 --> 00:22:43,000 Speaker 1: stuff is not like we don't care if you're androgynist 429 00:22:43,040 --> 00:22:46,600 Speaker 1: and wear big shoulder pair, where the pair? If you 430 00:22:46,760 --> 00:22:50,399 Speaker 1: take over the entire c suite or what have you 431 00:22:50,480 --> 00:22:52,719 Speaker 1: of every brand we've ever loved and then tell us 432 00:22:52,720 --> 00:22:55,480 Speaker 1: how much you hate us. I do care about that. 433 00:22:55,480 --> 00:22:57,560 Speaker 3: That's the part we care about. Yeah, we're going to 434 00:22:57,560 --> 00:22:59,880 Speaker 3: take a short break and come right back with normally. 435 00:23:03,600 --> 00:23:07,240 Speaker 3: Another example of this, of course, is the snow White 436 00:23:07,320 --> 00:23:12,280 Speaker 3: actress made some comments about Trump supporters. And the thing 437 00:23:12,400 --> 00:23:18,600 Speaker 3: is I wrote about this weirdo snow White readaptation last year. 438 00:23:18,800 --> 00:23:21,480 Speaker 3: This movie is still not out. This snow White actress 439 00:23:21,520 --> 00:23:24,320 Speaker 3: continues to make insane comments. What I wrote about her 440 00:23:24,359 --> 00:23:27,040 Speaker 3: last year was that she basically said she hates the 441 00:23:27,080 --> 00:23:30,600 Speaker 3: original snow White story. It was like it wasn't I mean, yes, 442 00:23:30,640 --> 00:23:32,640 Speaker 3: it was woke, like oh, she doesn't need no man 443 00:23:32,680 --> 00:23:35,920 Speaker 3: to save her, but she was like, oh, the original stories. 444 00:23:36,520 --> 00:23:39,360 Speaker 3: You know people who love Disney, and I know some 445 00:23:39,440 --> 00:23:42,720 Speaker 3: real committed Disney fans hate that kind of stuff, and 446 00:23:42,760 --> 00:23:44,800 Speaker 3: they don't. They might even be on the left, They 447 00:23:44,920 --> 00:23:48,439 Speaker 3: just don't like you crapping all over a brand that 448 00:23:48,480 --> 00:23:52,119 Speaker 3: they were really into and telling you that you're bad 449 00:23:52,280 --> 00:23:55,879 Speaker 3: for liking the original version of that brand. So again, 450 00:23:55,960 --> 00:23:58,040 Speaker 3: like you said about Jaguar, I'm sure this has been 451 00:23:58,080 --> 00:23:59,800 Speaker 3: in the I know this has been in the pipes 452 00:23:59,840 --> 00:24:02,439 Speaker 3: for a while because this is just this run up 453 00:24:02,440 --> 00:24:04,919 Speaker 3: to this new snow White being released is just years 454 00:24:04,920 --> 00:24:08,560 Speaker 3: at this point, but this actress just keeps coming out 455 00:24:08,760 --> 00:24:12,240 Speaker 3: causing a stir and I can't see that movie doing 456 00:24:12,280 --> 00:24:12,840 Speaker 3: well at all. 457 00:24:13,400 --> 00:24:15,840 Speaker 1: No, and I think they've had several bites at the 458 00:24:15,880 --> 00:24:19,200 Speaker 1: Apple no pun intended snow White for this one where 459 00:24:19,320 --> 00:24:22,320 Speaker 1: I think they recast the dwarves. The dwarves, by the way, 460 00:24:22,320 --> 00:24:25,520 Speaker 1: are not called dwarves. They're called miners because dwarves might 461 00:24:25,520 --> 00:24:29,200 Speaker 1: be offensive. And then they made the dwarves cgi because 462 00:24:29,240 --> 00:24:32,760 Speaker 1: apparently the other way they did it was not okay. 463 00:24:33,040 --> 00:24:33,840 Speaker 2: There have been so. 464 00:24:33,960 --> 00:24:37,720 Speaker 1: Many reboots to this reboot that the only thing left 465 00:24:37,720 --> 00:24:39,720 Speaker 1: in it that's worth watching is going to be the 466 00:24:39,760 --> 00:24:44,160 Speaker 1: evil queen who is Galgadot, And like, who's there's literally 467 00:24:44,200 --> 00:24:46,120 Speaker 1: no one fairer than her, So I don't know why 468 00:24:46,119 --> 00:24:47,480 Speaker 1: we're even having this discussion. 469 00:24:48,720 --> 00:24:51,159 Speaker 2: So she wins. That's the twist. 470 00:24:51,240 --> 00:24:53,840 Speaker 3: The evil Queen wins. 471 00:24:54,840 --> 00:24:58,680 Speaker 1: I think the snow white history of how that movie 472 00:24:58,720 --> 00:25:01,520 Speaker 1: came together and fell apart is going to be a 473 00:25:01,560 --> 00:25:02,360 Speaker 1: fascinating one. 474 00:25:02,359 --> 00:25:03,639 Speaker 2: Whoever writes that book. 475 00:25:04,040 --> 00:25:06,679 Speaker 3: Yeah, I also hope, and I've been hoping. Look, I 476 00:25:06,680 --> 00:25:11,119 Speaker 3: live in Florida. I don't love hating Disney, but I can't. 477 00:25:11,240 --> 00:25:12,919 Speaker 3: I wouldn't. I would not go to the parks. I 478 00:25:12,920 --> 00:25:15,040 Speaker 3: mean I haven't in a few years. I still wouldn't 479 00:25:15,119 --> 00:25:19,159 Speaker 3: right now. But I would love to see this all American, 480 00:25:19,800 --> 00:25:23,640 Speaker 3: you know, storied company turn itself around and say we're 481 00:25:23,680 --> 00:25:26,680 Speaker 3: done with this nonsense. We're getting back to good storytelling, 482 00:25:26,760 --> 00:25:30,760 Speaker 3: good acting, good songs, all of that. We're not pushing 483 00:25:30,800 --> 00:25:33,560 Speaker 3: an agenda anymore. We fired all the people who have 484 00:25:33,720 --> 00:25:36,320 Speaker 3: were openly saying that they were pushing an agenda, and 485 00:25:36,359 --> 00:25:39,280 Speaker 3: we're going to go back to basics, ladies and gentlemen, 486 00:25:39,480 --> 00:25:41,520 Speaker 3: We're going to go back to basics. That's what I 487 00:25:41,520 --> 00:25:43,840 Speaker 3: want to hear from them. But I don't know. I 488 00:25:44,000 --> 00:25:45,840 Speaker 3: don't know if and when they're ever going to do that. 489 00:25:46,880 --> 00:25:49,920 Speaker 3: I hope they don't have to go into full collapse 490 00:25:50,040 --> 00:25:51,760 Speaker 3: before they're able to turn it around. 491 00:25:52,359 --> 00:25:54,200 Speaker 2: I do think there are glimmers of hope. 492 00:25:54,920 --> 00:25:56,680 Speaker 1: But yes, I would like to like not have to 493 00:25:56,720 --> 00:25:59,120 Speaker 1: screen every Disney movie for in Sandy before I show 494 00:25:59,160 --> 00:26:01,760 Speaker 1: it to my kid. That's the thing is like all 495 00:26:01,840 --> 00:26:03,800 Speaker 1: the sid it and forget it options are gone. 496 00:26:04,000 --> 00:26:05,520 Speaker 2: You guys, we can't trust them. 497 00:26:05,640 --> 00:26:08,800 Speaker 3: We can't trust them anymore. Yeah, and that's it. Once 498 00:26:08,800 --> 00:26:11,480 Speaker 3: you break that trust, it's very hard to rebuild. And 499 00:26:11,520 --> 00:26:13,879 Speaker 3: we used to be able to trust. Disney has the 500 00:26:14,040 --> 00:26:16,880 Speaker 3: kind of company where we could just leave our kids 501 00:26:16,920 --> 00:26:19,720 Speaker 3: to watch the movie. We can't do that anymore. And 502 00:26:19,760 --> 00:26:21,800 Speaker 3: that's where they're going to feel it. That's where they're 503 00:26:21,840 --> 00:26:23,800 Speaker 3: really going to feel it. In the you know, the pocketbook. 504 00:26:24,440 --> 00:26:27,240 Speaker 1: A history note by the way, the guy who hosted 505 00:26:27,600 --> 00:26:31,920 Speaker 1: the special to open Disneyland when it like did its 506 00:26:31,920 --> 00:26:36,399 Speaker 1: big reveal to the public, Ronald Reagan in uh and 507 00:26:36,440 --> 00:26:38,000 Speaker 1: his meybe hosting days. 508 00:26:38,200 --> 00:26:41,679 Speaker 3: Yeah, excellent, Ronald Reagan, he'd be surprised to see what 509 00:26:41,760 --> 00:26:46,600 Speaker 3: Disney's become. Well, thanks for joining us on normally normally 510 00:26:46,600 --> 00:26:49,719 Speaker 3: airs Tuesdays and Thursdays, and you can subscribe anywhere you 511 00:26:49,760 --> 00:26:52,640 Speaker 3: get your podcasts, get in touch with us at normallythepot 512 00:26:52,680 --> 00:26:55,640 Speaker 3: at gmail dot com. Thanks for listening and when things 513 00:26:55,680 --> 00:26:57,280 Speaker 3: get weird back normally