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Speaker 1: your hosts Dane Brugler, David Hellman, and Brian broad Us. Well,

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Speaker 1: we welcome you to the s WBC Mortgage Studios for

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Speaker 1: the Draft Show. Cash. We're getting close, inside forty nine

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Speaker 1: days until we take onto this adventure that we're about

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Speaker 1: to happen. We're kind of sailing along right now. We're

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Speaker 1: just looking for land. When you put it, when you

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Speaker 1: put it in terms of days, it sounds really close. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: But put it in terms of weeks, it's still six

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Speaker 1: weeks away. Yeah, But it just feels like though we're

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Speaker 1: starting to have, you know, the pro days are starting

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Speaker 1: to kick Colorado, Alabama. Yeah. Somebody asked me on Twitter

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Speaker 1: last night, and I mean, I have a ballpark. We

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Speaker 1: don't know exactly when the thirty visits start, though, do

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Speaker 1: we And it like the week of April generally April.

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Speaker 1: so it's any of those first three. Ye us first three,

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Speaker 1: everybody gets done with right in that way, all the

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Speaker 1: scouts and they're off the road, the prods back of

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Speaker 1: the facility. Yeah right, that's the voice of Dane Helman.

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Speaker 1: David Hellman was speaking earlier k Dan Brugler. But I say,

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Speaker 1: he said, Dane Hellman, damn you, Dane Burglar. David Hellman cash,

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Speaker 1: I'll get this right one of these days. Kit Garrison,

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Speaker 1: Executive producing today. Uh. I want to jump into something

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Speaker 1: right now, real quick, do it. And it's not one

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Speaker 1: of my rants. But no, you put together for the

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Speaker 1: Dallas Morning News, you put together a Cowboy seven round

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Speaker 1: mock draft. I didn't. And now that we have the

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Speaker 1: comp picks, we have, the coin flips are done. We

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Speaker 1: know the full one through two fifty six draft order.

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Speaker 1: So cowboys sitting there with ten picks, chance to get better,

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Speaker 1: all right? He teased last last show on Oh that's right,

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Speaker 1: he teased that he's going to have a surprise pick

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Speaker 1: if Dan agrees with your assessment of surprise based on

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Speaker 1: his face here, I don't know if I just don't

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Speaker 1: feel like I have a feeling I knew who this

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Speaker 1: why don't you take it over there a steam scout

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Speaker 1: your seven round mock draft. Now, though, the have to say,

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Speaker 1: you know, Freedency's about to start, and that could change

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Speaker 1: for the Cowboys, it's not going to change very much.

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Speaker 1: They're gonna draft players, So go ahead, go ahead and

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Speaker 1: go through this mon much to the chagrin of all

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Speaker 1: never know, Earl Tom never know, alright, so go away

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Speaker 1: picks you okay with that? Yes, yeah, he's your Hall

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Speaker 1: first round nineteen. Overall, I didn't do any trades, just

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Speaker 1: keep it simple, keep it chalk. Coming out of the combine,

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Speaker 1: the nineteen overall, they'd take Calvin Ridley. Yes, sail Obama.

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Speaker 1: And I didn't look for whatever that's worth. I did

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Speaker 1: about time that they just infuse some young talent to

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Speaker 1: points on the board. Calvin Ridley can do that. And look,

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Speaker 1: I get it. He didn't have the greatest jumps at

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Speaker 1: We were saying in January that Calvin Ridley was a

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Speaker 1: I don't have real quick Daine, for what you know

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Speaker 1: fifty fifty overall. I will have second day coverage for

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Speaker 1: second round. Josie Jewel Jewel, y'all's guy, he's this is

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Speaker 1: I don't think Josi Jewel makes it eighty one, and

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Speaker 1: part of the appeal at fifty he starts from day one.

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Speaker 1: I have to make the determination if I wanted one

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Speaker 1: the same conversation we had a million times last year.

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Speaker 1: the tape, just just not against Juan Barkley. Oh, though

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Speaker 1: he embarrassed a lot of people. Though, Yeah, Josie Jules

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Speaker 1: whatever you have to do with Jalen Smith. Late in

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Speaker 1: to offense. I know a lot of fans aren't on

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Speaker 1: old season. But Ian Thomas, as you project him forward,

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Speaker 1: there talking with Pete Prisco. Yeah, we were talking about

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Speaker 1: and Ian Thomas is the best tight end from this group.

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Speaker 1: And I don't disagree with that. I'm a big fan

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Speaker 1: really you're drafting him for twenty nineteen and beyond. I

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Speaker 1: don't love it. But if you're gonna do it, that's

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Speaker 1: I mean, okay, third round more palatable than first or second. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: give me some guys that are like defensive tackles. Would

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Speaker 1: the naughty n would that? Would that be a different

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Speaker 1: I don't have a problem with Ian Thomas. I think

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Speaker 1: absolutely right. I just wonder on that board, am I

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Speaker 1: We'll just follow him whatever whatever's going down that board.

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Speaker 1: does that follow him with Trey Flowers? Is that kind

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Speaker 1: I got Flowers a little bit farther down. Okay, that's fine,

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Speaker 1: What was the number on that pick? One thirty seven?

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Speaker 1: Thank you very much? Okay, fifth round. Two picks in

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Speaker 1: the fifth round one seventy one and one seventy three,

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Speaker 1: with the first pick at one seventy one, going back

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Speaker 1: to offense, getting a running back than I was gonna say,

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Speaker 1: I like it? Go for it a guy you probably

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Speaker 1: have heard of, Darryl Williams. Uh game, Why are you

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Speaker 1: You know, that's where you start talking about this stuff.

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Speaker 1: I can talk my I have no problem believing Darryl

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Speaker 1: to defense. Uh, developmental pass rusher aid a runa from Tulane. Oh,

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Speaker 1: I'm just rotten raid in Louisiana this or this round.

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Speaker 1: at he's playing like a base in. Don't do that

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Speaker 1: So he's I mean, this is yourself just rawer than sushi,

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Speaker 1: really really see the field. He shouldn't see meaningful snaps

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Speaker 1: I'm not going to. That's that's good. Um so yeah,

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Speaker 1: he's he's very, very raw. It doesn't really know what

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Speaker 1: Only like twelve sacks over thirty four starts. Didn't have

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Speaker 1: head up now they went to like a three man front.

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Speaker 1: It was bad, bad situation for him. Put this guy

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Speaker 1: Seven picks or seven picks in again, no trades or anything,

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Speaker 1: sixth round went back to offense offensive line. Haven't drafted

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Speaker 1: have not get some depth, maybe a swing tackle, maybe

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Speaker 1: Gates from Nebraska, second Nebraska player off I got a

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Speaker 1: fifth round on my board. Corn Husker heavy draft here. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: Tanner Lee's next quarterback. No, it's not like whoa now Gates.

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Speaker 1: he needs some work with his strength, his technique. Another

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Speaker 1: He is kind of walking watching him, you know, body control, balance,

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Speaker 1: I can use a better punch you're talking about to speed,

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Speaker 1: but you know, tends to give up the inside. That's

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Speaker 1: he manages to recover, you know. I mean that shows

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Speaker 1: with this last name o Western Kentucky linebacker. Are you

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Speaker 1: Kentucky quarterback that look pretty good yesterday with last name

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Speaker 1: white White. It's a good quarterback on defense Joel eya

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Speaker 1: boo kneeway from Western Kentucky. If Dan doesn't know how

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Speaker 1: When you're eating alphabet soup and you look down, yeah

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Speaker 1: that's what it looks, you know it was he buy Yeah? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: once again trades guy traits in the sixth seventh round.

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Speaker 1: Yeah again yeah, trades guy who he ran well. Uh

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Speaker 1: and this past year for Western Kentucky. He had over

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Speaker 1: a hundred tackles. Yea, you know there's some This backfield

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Speaker 1: vision needs some work. Uh. He tends to overpursue some

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Speaker 1: least has some traits where you feel comfortable bringing depth

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Speaker 1: So but I think he can provide as a rookie

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Speaker 1: some death I got it Western Kentucky says it's pronounced

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Speaker 1: eya buny way, which is actually way easier. It looks yeah, eya,

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Speaker 1: there's a g in there, but you don't Yeah, I

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Speaker 1: don't even bother with yeah. Okay, So that's just six

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Speaker 1: two O eight, final pick, seventh round, two thirty six.

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Speaker 1: I went back to offense. Why not draft a quarterback?

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Speaker 1: There you go. Chase Lytton from Marshall, the Thundering Herd

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Speaker 1: junior here came out early. Who he's like the East

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Speaker 1: Coast version of Josh Allen, where the physical traits are arm,

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Speaker 1: got the big arm. He's a tall, lanky kid. Uh,

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Speaker 1: You watch his highlights and you wonder why he's not

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Speaker 1: But he's he's very young. Um, the interviews will be

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Speaker 1: Should have went back to school for a senior year,

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Speaker 1: but decided to leave early. At this point in the

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Speaker 1: seventh round, take take a chance on a physically gifted

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Speaker 1: into with his measurables. The tape, the tape must be something.

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Speaker 1: If he's still a seventh round pick at six six

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Speaker 1: That's what the mock drafts all about. I love the

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Speaker 1: Sounds good. All right, we're gonna take our first break,

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Speaker 1: David Helmet, give me a little twitter on the twitter.

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Speaker 1: Uh yeah. So I cut you off in the first

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Speaker 1: we'll start out with that, um billy uh he and

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Speaker 1: I directing this probably more so at Dane than US two.

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Speaker 1: But he said, where would you rank Calvin Ridley and

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Speaker 1: to come from the last three years? And I mean,

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Speaker 1: so how did they stack up with those three years

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Speaker 1: Amari Cooper. But when you stack wor receivers and you

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Speaker 1: talk about ranking them, it's tough because like with Ridley,

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Speaker 1: like I don't think he's a future number one. I

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Speaker 1: guy like Laquon Treadwell, we projected him as number one. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: we know we looked at him as a potential number one. UM,

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Speaker 1: and so that inflated his draft grade a little bit. UM.

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Speaker 1: Last year with Mike Williams and uh oh the Western

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Speaker 1: both went top seven, which I don't think none of

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Speaker 1: And then John Ross going nine to the Bengals. So

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Speaker 1: Calvin Ridley would probably be uh you know, right there

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Speaker 1: with with like a Mike Williams in my rankings, um

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Speaker 1: you know Alabama, Mary Cooper's a little bigger. So I

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Speaker 1: is not far behind him. All these wide receivers are

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Speaker 1: that's a lot of these receivers. We can't say that

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Speaker 1: that about last year with Mike Williams, Uh, Corey Davis.

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Speaker 1: I mean everything about him was just special. I'm surprised

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, that's the biggest thing. Williams, Davis and White

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Speaker 1: things have turned out. But you can't let that creep

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Speaker 1: So yeah, I'm I'm with you on that though. Really

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Speaker 1: some interesting current events today. I'm sure y'all saw Darius

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Speaker 1: you you know what as the university done anything for you?

633
00:30:36,960 --> 00:30:40,000
Speaker 1: You know, And then I totally think it's fair game.

634
00:30:40,080 --> 00:30:43,960
Speaker 1: Then I wouldn't take that plan of attack of asking.

635
00:30:44,040 --> 00:30:46,400
Speaker 1: And I can speak from experience. I have a gay brother,

636
00:30:47,040 --> 00:30:51,640
Speaker 1: and so my tolerance for people that that you know,

637
00:30:52,240 --> 00:30:55,320
Speaker 1: have that phobia or whatever, you know, I'm I think

638
00:30:55,360 --> 00:30:57,920
Speaker 1: everybody has their own lives and stuff like that. And

639
00:30:57,960 --> 00:30:59,720
Speaker 1: you know, you lead your life, you do the best

640
00:30:59,760 --> 00:31:01,520
Speaker 1: you can, and you'd be as productive as you can.

641
00:31:02,200 --> 00:31:05,000
Speaker 1: But I'm a little bit more sensitive to the plight

642
00:31:05,080 --> 00:31:09,600
Speaker 1: of my brother. Sure, so I wouldn't. I wouldn't. I

643
00:31:09,640 --> 00:31:11,880
Speaker 1: wouldn't go that route because I wouldn't question. I mean,

644
00:31:12,840 --> 00:31:15,960
Speaker 1: my brother, his partner is a tremendous man, and it

645
00:31:16,040 --> 00:31:18,200
Speaker 1: was an executive with Shell Oil, and you know, a

646
00:31:18,400 --> 00:31:21,680
Speaker 1: great guy. But I just feel like, in this setting,

647
00:31:21,680 --> 00:31:23,560
Speaker 1: though you areguing these guys a lot of money, I

648
00:31:23,560 --> 00:31:25,640
Speaker 1: think there's questions at our fair game. But I just

649
00:31:25,680 --> 00:31:27,480
Speaker 1: don't think that's one of the Well, it's not something

650
00:31:27,480 --> 00:31:30,479
Speaker 1: in the workplace that you can ask in an interview,

651
00:31:30,520 --> 00:31:32,560
Speaker 1: and I think that I think that's I'm sorry I

652
00:31:32,600 --> 00:31:34,400
Speaker 1: keep talking about this, but it kind of means something

653
00:31:34,440 --> 00:31:37,400
Speaker 1: to me. I just feel like, though you know, these

654
00:31:37,400 --> 00:31:39,960
Speaker 1: are job interviews, they really are. You're trying to find

655
00:31:39,960 --> 00:31:43,840
Speaker 1: out about the employee you're potentially gonna have and so,

656
00:31:44,240 --> 00:31:46,840
Speaker 1: but I don't think you can go that line. If

657
00:31:46,960 --> 00:31:50,880
Speaker 1: laws protect you in the workplace, laws should also protect you.

658
00:31:51,200 --> 00:31:53,880
Speaker 1: And a shame for the guys or the team that

659
00:31:53,960 --> 00:31:56,320
Speaker 1: asked that question. We should know better than that. We

660
00:31:56,360 --> 00:31:59,560
Speaker 1: should be better with our questioning than than asking those

661
00:31:59,600 --> 00:32:03,160
Speaker 1: types of questions. Yeah, I mean, I agree with what

662
00:32:03,200 --> 00:32:05,520
Speaker 1: you're saying. Um, you don't have to agree with what

663
00:32:05,560 --> 00:32:09,320
Speaker 1: I'm saying. I'm my personal experience. I guess my only

664
00:32:09,320 --> 00:32:11,600
Speaker 1: thing is and I'm not saying that the line of

665
00:32:11,680 --> 00:32:15,640
Speaker 1: questioning was right. What I'm saying is from a scouts perspective,

666
00:32:15,800 --> 00:32:18,600
Speaker 1: you want to you don't want to any surprises. Yeah,

667
00:32:18,640 --> 00:32:20,040
Speaker 1: you know, when when you draft a player, when you

668
00:32:20,080 --> 00:32:22,320
Speaker 1: invest especially a first round pick, if you had invest

669
00:32:22,400 --> 00:32:25,920
Speaker 1: in a player, you don't want any surprises. In you know,

670
00:32:26,120 --> 00:32:30,760
Speaker 1: six months, and you know that a team might be

671
00:32:30,760 --> 00:32:33,480
Speaker 1: completely okay with it, but they just they don't want

672
00:32:33,480 --> 00:32:36,600
Speaker 1: that surprise. And so but that does bring up the

673
00:32:36,880 --> 00:32:39,200
Speaker 1: you know, is it is it appropriate or not to

674
00:32:39,200 --> 00:32:41,440
Speaker 1: ask the question? The NFL has been clear with what

675
00:32:41,480 --> 00:32:43,520
Speaker 1: they said. They came out and said it's an inappropriate

676
00:32:43,640 --> 00:32:45,720
Speaker 1: line of questioning. And it'll be interesting to see what

677
00:32:45,720 --> 00:32:48,560
Speaker 1: the NFL does from here if they take any action.

678
00:32:48,720 --> 00:32:50,680
Speaker 1: Is they're going to be an investigation to find out

679
00:32:50,960 --> 00:32:53,840
Speaker 1: who asked it, what team and just try to make

680
00:32:53,880 --> 00:32:56,080
Speaker 1: an example of someone so it doesn't happen again. I

681
00:32:56,120 --> 00:32:58,600
Speaker 1: just feel like though that to me, that's a question

682
00:32:58,680 --> 00:33:02,440
Speaker 1: you can ask on the side. Okay, in that setting,

683
00:33:03,240 --> 00:33:05,600
Speaker 1: you know, are they are they trying to are they

684
00:33:05,640 --> 00:33:10,640
Speaker 1: trying to confirm a rumor? You know that somebody at

685
00:33:10,960 --> 00:33:16,440
Speaker 1: LSU tell them that, hey, that Darius guysy. I mean,

686
00:33:16,600 --> 00:33:20,040
Speaker 1: is there a way to handle that other than in

687
00:33:20,080 --> 00:33:22,880
Speaker 1: that setting? And well, my big thing is he pulled

688
00:33:22,880 --> 00:33:25,240
Speaker 1: the guy aside. I get. I get that you don't

689
00:33:25,320 --> 00:33:28,080
Speaker 1: want to make it a formal question in that setting.

690
00:33:28,160 --> 00:33:30,240
Speaker 1: I get that you don't want to surprise on something

691
00:33:30,280 --> 00:33:32,160
Speaker 1: you're investing so heavily and but you know, to your

692
00:33:32,200 --> 00:33:35,080
Speaker 1: point about the drinking problem or domestic violence, right, those

693
00:33:35,120 --> 00:33:37,000
Speaker 1: are surprises that's going to keep this guy off the

694
00:33:37,040 --> 00:33:39,440
Speaker 1: field what he decides to do in his personal life,

695
00:33:39,480 --> 00:33:41,959
Speaker 1: you know, in terms of who he you know, whatever, Right,

696
00:33:42,240 --> 00:33:44,560
Speaker 1: that doesn't really affect him as a football player. If

697
00:33:44,720 --> 00:33:47,240
Speaker 1: if it comes to the light and you've got a

698
00:33:47,280 --> 00:33:49,640
Speaker 1: lot more news crews at your facility because of it,

699
00:33:50,800 --> 00:33:53,200
Speaker 1: I get it, distractions and all that stupid crap that

700
00:33:53,240 --> 00:33:55,280
Speaker 1: football coaches say. But like, at the end of the day,

701
00:33:55,560 --> 00:33:57,440
Speaker 1: if if you like the guy enough to draft him,

702
00:33:57,880 --> 00:33:59,480
Speaker 1: sorry if you have to deal with that. But I

703
00:33:59,600 --> 00:34:01,560
Speaker 1: just don't think it's a big enough deal that you

704
00:34:01,600 --> 00:34:03,920
Speaker 1: need to be dragging that out in a job interview.

705
00:34:03,960 --> 00:34:05,840
Speaker 1: I mean, that would never happen in any other industry.

706
00:34:05,880 --> 00:34:07,560
Speaker 1: I'm gonna be sitting in at a bar in Costa

707
00:34:07,640 --> 00:34:09,239
Speaker 1: Rica one day and this is not going to be

708
00:34:09,320 --> 00:34:11,920
Speaker 1: a problem. Yeah, I would agree. I mean I look

709
00:34:11,960 --> 00:34:14,480
Speaker 1: forward to that day preferably in your lifetime. Yeah, I

710
00:34:14,560 --> 00:34:17,200
Speaker 1: look forward to the day where you know, everybody's just

711
00:34:17,680 --> 00:34:19,600
Speaker 1: you know, we're all we're all good with each other,

712
00:34:19,880 --> 00:34:22,040
Speaker 1: we're all good. We're just trying to trying to do

713
00:34:22,080 --> 00:34:25,400
Speaker 1: the best we can and hopefully that'll happen. I dig it, Brian,

714
00:34:25,440 --> 00:34:30,160
Speaker 1: I dig that. Um more football based, Dominic. I really

715
00:34:30,160 --> 00:34:31,719
Speaker 1: like this. We're not going to ask that question, by

716
00:34:31,719 --> 00:34:35,359
Speaker 1: the way, We're not gonna ask that question when we

717
00:34:35,360 --> 00:34:37,120
Speaker 1: get into it. Oh when we have our own team,

718
00:34:37,600 --> 00:34:39,160
Speaker 1: We're not going to do that. When we run, we're

719
00:34:39,160 --> 00:34:40,920
Speaker 1: gonna find about these players, but we're gonna do it

720
00:34:40,920 --> 00:34:44,240
Speaker 1: the right way. Right. UM. I really like this question

721
00:34:44,640 --> 00:34:49,799
Speaker 1: your next team. It's basically Dominic is basically asking how

722
00:34:49,800 --> 00:34:51,960
Speaker 1: the talent stacks up in this draft. To the point

723
00:34:51,960 --> 00:34:54,920
Speaker 1: of mock draft you just did. He doesn't want names,

724
00:34:55,680 --> 00:34:58,400
Speaker 1: but just based on what you know about the talent

725
00:34:58,440 --> 00:35:00,799
Speaker 1: in this draft and how it stacks what would your

726
00:35:00,920 --> 00:35:04,879
Speaker 1: ideal picks be at nineteen and fifty position? I don't

727
00:35:04,920 --> 00:35:06,839
Speaker 1: care about the player I with do that? Didn't we

728
00:35:06,920 --> 00:35:09,080
Speaker 1: kind of thought, like, man, yeah, we sever and a

729
00:35:09,880 --> 00:35:14,280
Speaker 1: linebacker would be ideal. Dave just kind of said, hey, guys,

730
00:35:14,280 --> 00:35:16,000
Speaker 1: we just let's look at our board. We just feeled

731
00:35:16,000 --> 00:35:18,839
Speaker 1: to two starting positions right right there? Is that your

732
00:35:18,880 --> 00:35:21,360
Speaker 1: preferred order? And we I know we talked about that

733
00:35:21,400 --> 00:35:24,200
Speaker 1: in the first segment, but we'd say that this receiver

734
00:35:24,280 --> 00:35:27,759
Speaker 1: class is so deep. If I told you to Ley

735
00:35:27,880 --> 00:35:30,000
Speaker 1: was on the board, what if I told what if

736
00:35:30,000 --> 00:35:32,560
Speaker 1: I told you the linebacker at nineteen was Roquan Smith,

737
00:35:34,360 --> 00:35:37,520
Speaker 1: he changed your mind. Let's go qu He's higher on

738
00:35:37,560 --> 00:35:40,160
Speaker 1: my board too, So yeah, let's take the better player. Yeah.

739
00:35:40,160 --> 00:35:43,560
Speaker 1: I think to me that the thing that we did

740
00:35:43,600 --> 00:35:46,800
Speaker 1: something for our shows for the Blitz that was talking

741
00:35:46,840 --> 00:35:50,000
Speaker 1: about if the positions were wiped out, Dane and this

742
00:35:50,080 --> 00:35:53,520
Speaker 1: was a wiped out call was for guards, And I

743
00:35:53,560 --> 00:35:56,920
Speaker 1: think you're okay on a wipeout guard. Yeah, I mean,

744
00:35:57,719 --> 00:36:00,840
Speaker 1: the most reluctant yeah of all. No, but but okay,

745
00:36:01,080 --> 00:36:03,120
Speaker 1: I'm just saying if it was I mean, I know

746
00:36:03,160 --> 00:36:05,960
Speaker 1: you'll probably say, Okay, well, who are the other who's

747
00:36:05,960 --> 00:36:08,000
Speaker 1: the other receivers on the board, who are the other

748
00:36:08,040 --> 00:36:11,040
Speaker 1: linebackers on the board. Who the defensive tackles that are

749
00:36:11,080 --> 00:36:13,160
Speaker 1: on the board. Well, And what I'm hoping is that

750
00:36:13,360 --> 00:36:15,759
Speaker 1: the Cowboys do something in free agency where we don't

751
00:36:15,760 --> 00:36:17,799
Speaker 1: need to be talking about. You know, if they they

752
00:36:17,880 --> 00:36:22,080
Speaker 1: add that Jonathan Cooper come on back too. Better than

753
00:36:22,160 --> 00:36:26,080
Speaker 1: Jonathan Cooper, but you can get someone that is established

754
00:36:26,080 --> 00:36:27,400
Speaker 1: in this league. He's not going to cost you an

755
00:36:27,480 --> 00:36:29,919
Speaker 1: arm and a leg who can be a band aid,

756
00:36:29,920 --> 00:36:32,200
Speaker 1: and the offensive line would be just fine, and that

757
00:36:32,320 --> 00:36:34,960
Speaker 1: eliminates offensive line for you in the first round. That

758
00:36:35,280 --> 00:36:37,480
Speaker 1: would be my hope. So we don't have that dragon

759
00:36:37,560 --> 00:36:39,920
Speaker 1: on and I just have a tough time envisioning a

760
00:36:39,920 --> 00:36:43,640
Speaker 1: scenario where it's that much wiped out where I'd water

761
00:36:43,640 --> 00:36:45,520
Speaker 1: an offensive line in there. I think there should be

762
00:36:45,560 --> 00:36:47,520
Speaker 1: at least someone there i'd feel comfortable with. Would you

763
00:36:47,560 --> 00:36:50,879
Speaker 1: take the linebacker from Alabama over the two and over

764
00:36:50,920 --> 00:36:52,880
Speaker 1: any of the guards in the first round? Yeah, I

765
00:36:52,880 --> 00:36:55,600
Speaker 1: think I would. I wouldn't. I wouldn't. I don't. I

766
00:36:55,640 --> 00:36:58,400
Speaker 1: don't like that guy. I mean, yeah, it's happening to

767
00:36:58,440 --> 00:37:00,160
Speaker 1: be one of those picks. When it happens at night, team,

768
00:37:00,200 --> 00:37:02,000
Speaker 1: we're all gonna look at each other and it's like, Okay,

769
00:37:02,200 --> 00:37:04,600
Speaker 1: that's gonna be a vander esh No, that's gonna be

770
00:37:05,520 --> 00:37:07,560
Speaker 1: me and Brian are gonna leave you to do this alone.

771
00:37:07,560 --> 00:37:09,440
Speaker 1: If that's the pick, well, I'm gonna have to walk

772
00:37:09,480 --> 00:37:11,360
Speaker 1: out and go down to the store to get my jersey,

773
00:37:11,400 --> 00:37:13,840
Speaker 1: my number forty. I thought you're like your victory cigar.

774
00:37:14,080 --> 00:37:17,560
Speaker 1: Yeah that too. Yeah, Red r Back just fired it up.

775
00:37:17,920 --> 00:37:20,880
Speaker 1: I'm throwing y'all this question. We answer this question by

776
00:37:20,920 --> 00:37:23,160
Speaker 1: the way, I think I'm a linebacker wide receiver. That's

777
00:37:23,239 --> 00:37:26,400
Speaker 1: kind of how guard. I mean, it might set up

778
00:37:26,440 --> 00:37:31,080
Speaker 1: that one maybe guard safety. I see, well, I safety

779
00:37:31,320 --> 00:37:34,759
Speaker 1: upsets me because if the safety's James or that's not

780
00:37:34,840 --> 00:37:39,839
Speaker 1: happening unless they trade up. Okay, that's would you sacrifice

781
00:37:39,840 --> 00:37:42,880
Speaker 1: to eighty one to go get James? Yes, I'd sacrifice

782
00:37:42,920 --> 00:37:44,759
Speaker 1: fifty to go get James, who was eighty one for

783
00:37:44,880 --> 00:37:47,920
Speaker 1: us in our muck and Thomas. Yes, tight end, we're

784
00:37:47,920 --> 00:37:50,080
Speaker 1: not gonna use Yeah, let's go get And I'm sorry.

785
00:37:50,080 --> 00:37:53,120
Speaker 1: I love I love you like a scout and I

786
00:37:53,760 --> 00:37:55,319
Speaker 1: but I don't think a third round is gonna be enough.

787
00:37:55,320 --> 00:37:57,440
Speaker 1: If not, that's why you give up fifty two and

788
00:37:57,560 --> 00:37:59,120
Speaker 1: just do it. I don't know if see how I

789
00:37:59,160 --> 00:38:03,200
Speaker 1: got that's fifty end? Yeah? Yeah, Oh so you're going

790
00:38:03,280 --> 00:38:06,520
Speaker 1: nineteen and fifty to go get that pick? Yes, Derwin James,

791
00:38:06,600 --> 00:38:09,680
Speaker 1: who can start at safety, play some slot, play some linebacker.

792
00:38:11,840 --> 00:38:15,160
Speaker 1: Yeah right, probably lean that way. Um, yeah, we got okay,

793
00:38:15,200 --> 00:38:17,000
Speaker 1: So who would you rather have Calvin Ridley and Josie

794
00:38:17,040 --> 00:38:21,879
Speaker 1: Jewel or Calvin or Derwin James. That is good that's good,

795
00:38:22,080 --> 00:38:24,279
Speaker 1: and I don't I don't know that you could really go.

796
00:38:24,920 --> 00:38:27,080
Speaker 1: But his first two picks he fixed, he fixed the

797
00:38:27,160 --> 00:38:29,719
Speaker 1: problem for you. I don't know that you can. I

798
00:38:30,000 --> 00:38:32,160
Speaker 1: think either one of those I think the Cowboys get

799
00:38:32,200 --> 00:38:34,440
Speaker 1: better by doing either one of those things. So it's

800
00:38:34,440 --> 00:38:36,799
Speaker 1: like two really good players or one potentially great player.

801
00:38:36,880 --> 00:38:39,520
Speaker 1: That which I mean, Dan, I'm gonna need you to

802
00:38:39,600 --> 00:38:41,239
Speaker 1: draft somebody at eighty one. I don't know if there's

803
00:38:41,239 --> 00:38:43,319
Speaker 1: a right or run. I'm gonna need you to draft

804
00:38:43,320 --> 00:38:45,319
Speaker 1: somebody eighty one. Brian, I'm gonna need you. I need

805
00:38:45,360 --> 00:38:47,200
Speaker 1: you to come with somebody big at eighty one. Brian

806
00:38:47,280 --> 00:38:49,919
Speaker 1: always tells us we never get off the fence. I'll

807
00:38:50,000 --> 00:38:52,320
Speaker 1: do the trade. I'll go up and be bold and

808
00:38:52,480 --> 00:38:55,279
Speaker 1: get the bad at I had that. I really think

809
00:38:55,840 --> 00:38:57,680
Speaker 1: this first. I said this, and you got mad at

810
00:38:57,719 --> 00:38:59,360
Speaker 1: me a couple of weeks ago. I did. I know,

811
00:39:00,000 --> 00:39:02,000
Speaker 1: if you want a heartbeat about this, I think the

812
00:39:02,840 --> 00:39:04,640
Speaker 1: talent in this first round is kind of weak, Like

813
00:39:04,719 --> 00:39:07,719
Speaker 1: it's just it's not like that twenty sixteen draft. It's

814
00:39:08,200 --> 00:39:11,200
Speaker 1: it's not. I just so I think you look at it.

815
00:39:11,239 --> 00:39:14,279
Speaker 1: I think Quintin Nelson throw throw out the quarterbacks, because

816
00:39:14,320 --> 00:39:20,080
Speaker 1: that's a crapshoot, Quentin Nelson, Derwin James, Barkley, se Quon Barkley,

817
00:39:20,400 --> 00:39:24,160
Speaker 1: Bradley Chubb, and and probably Roquan Smith. Like I feel

818
00:39:24,239 --> 00:39:27,600
Speaker 1: really good about those five players being very good pros.

819
00:39:27,760 --> 00:39:30,759
Speaker 1: I don't feel great about anybody else. He's making a point, though,

820
00:39:31,160 --> 00:39:33,880
Speaker 1: If if he's that's one of our best five players,

821
00:39:34,400 --> 00:39:36,160
Speaker 1: should we go get one of our best five players?

822
00:39:36,280 --> 00:39:40,960
Speaker 1: Fortune favors the bold on my board, Derwin James is nine.

823
00:39:41,600 --> 00:39:43,719
Speaker 1: Um God, we can't go there, Well we have to,

824
00:39:44,400 --> 00:39:46,080
Speaker 1: we can't. We can't go to nine. Yeah, we can't.

825
00:39:46,120 --> 00:39:47,960
Speaker 1: We go to nine. We jump up from We'll jump

826
00:39:48,080 --> 00:39:50,360
Speaker 1: up to get in front of the you might have

827
00:39:50,400 --> 00:39:51,640
Speaker 1: to get in front of the forty nine ers, so

828
00:39:51,719 --> 00:39:53,120
Speaker 1: you might have to go up to eight. So it's

829
00:39:54,160 --> 00:39:56,959
Speaker 1: a raider. A raider Buddies were really a Raider Buddies buddy.

830
00:39:56,960 --> 00:39:59,399
Speaker 1: They wanted Roquan. Who would you rather have, Derwin James

831
00:39:59,480 --> 00:40:02,360
Speaker 1: or Quans Derwin James. I just think I think the

832
00:40:02,440 --> 00:40:05,319
Speaker 1: world of him. Maybe it's I spend too much time

833
00:40:05,520 --> 00:40:08,160
Speaker 1: hanging out with John Machoda, the Florida State fanboy. But

834
00:40:08,960 --> 00:40:11,359
Speaker 1: I've got Roquan seven on my board and Derwin James nine,

835
00:40:11,440 --> 00:40:15,759
Speaker 1: So I mean they're closed that you Roquan. Yeah, talking

836
00:40:15,800 --> 00:40:19,520
Speaker 1: about this like it's going to happen, dream either either way.

837
00:40:19,560 --> 00:40:20,960
Speaker 1: But if you, if you, hey, if you guys now

838
00:40:21,000 --> 00:40:22,800
Speaker 1: are willing to give up fifty to go get it,

839
00:40:22,920 --> 00:40:25,920
Speaker 1: let's do this, all right, I mean seriously, put me

840
00:40:26,000 --> 00:40:28,239
Speaker 1: in the one I got ten picks. When we did

841
00:40:28,320 --> 00:40:29,960
Speaker 1: that show and we talked about trading up, I said

842
00:40:29,960 --> 00:40:31,360
Speaker 1: I would I would use fifty to go up to

843
00:40:31,400 --> 00:40:33,279
Speaker 1: get Roquan. I would do that. I would feel okay

844
00:40:33,320 --> 00:40:35,840
Speaker 1: with that, Derwin. But now you're looking at this draft,

845
00:40:35,880 --> 00:40:38,160
Speaker 1: you're kind of thinking I would still do it, but

846
00:40:38,800 --> 00:40:42,520
Speaker 1: with because the thing is, you have to make that

847
00:40:42,640 --> 00:40:44,800
Speaker 1: trade before you know who's going to be there at nineteen.

848
00:40:45,239 --> 00:40:48,239
Speaker 1: So there's a there's a realistic scenario Calvin really could

849
00:40:48,239 --> 00:40:50,759
Speaker 1: be there at nineteen. There's also a realistic scenario he'll

850
00:40:50,800 --> 00:40:53,600
Speaker 1: be long gone. You're kind of wiped out. So yeah,

851
00:40:53,719 --> 00:40:56,520
Speaker 1: you go up and uh you you you know, fortune

852
00:40:56,520 --> 00:41:00,200
Speaker 1: favors of bold, just get put the badasses on my team.

853
00:41:00,360 --> 00:41:02,319
Speaker 1: Let's do that. Well, you're gonna be good somewhere else.

854
00:41:02,360 --> 00:41:05,719
Speaker 1: I promise you that. One more David. All Right, I'm

855
00:41:05,840 --> 00:41:09,200
Speaker 1: throwing this out there just as an acknowledgement of all

856
00:41:09,239 --> 00:41:12,920
Speaker 1: of our poor, sad, angry cowboy fans. Oh there's a

857
00:41:12,960 --> 00:41:14,560
Speaker 1: lot of them. They had to watch, Folks, we get

858
00:41:14,600 --> 00:41:16,839
Speaker 1: to draft though, they had to watch. Well, okay, well

859
00:41:17,000 --> 00:41:19,239
Speaker 1: we get to draft, but draft, we just you're gonna

860
00:41:19,280 --> 00:41:20,879
Speaker 1: just get I'm just gonna throw this out there. It's

861
00:41:20,880 --> 00:41:22,880
Speaker 1: just we're just talking here. We're not just a question,

862
00:41:23,000 --> 00:41:28,520
Speaker 1: not speaking on behalf of any of Mike wants to know. Well, Mike,

863
00:41:28,760 --> 00:41:31,200
Speaker 1: what you would realistically give up in a trade for

864
00:41:31,280 --> 00:41:35,200
Speaker 1: Earl Thomas. We're allowed to talk about this. Yeah, We're

865
00:41:35,239 --> 00:41:37,560
Speaker 1: just it's just three friends chatting here on a podcast,

866
00:41:37,640 --> 00:41:41,680
Speaker 1: and we just you know, no official, not a listen.

867
00:41:41,719 --> 00:41:44,640
Speaker 1: If we're gonna give up fifty to go get James,

868
00:41:46,000 --> 00:41:48,680
Speaker 1: we're willing to go do that for all pro safe,

869
00:41:48,719 --> 00:41:51,040
Speaker 1: for approven all Pro. Yes, No, we're gonna have to

870
00:41:51,120 --> 00:41:52,640
Speaker 1: pay I was gonna say that that's part of the

871
00:41:52,719 --> 00:41:55,000
Speaker 1: equation too. Yeah, we might get a little wreck there.

872
00:41:55,120 --> 00:41:57,400
Speaker 1: But because you don't, I don't think you make the

873
00:41:57,480 --> 00:42:02,120
Speaker 1: ideal unless you know, like you feel ninety five percent

874
00:42:02,239 --> 00:42:04,239
Speaker 1: sure you're getting a deal done. I would agree with that.

875
00:42:04,400 --> 00:42:12,759
Speaker 1: Earl Thomas or Derwin James that I mean, yeah, that's

876
00:42:13,600 --> 00:42:16,120
Speaker 1: we have to give it. We have to give you

877
00:42:16,719 --> 00:42:19,160
Speaker 1: the best. If you had to give Earl Thomas is

878
00:42:19,200 --> 00:42:21,400
Speaker 1: what twenty nine years old? Yeah, yeah, you know, he's

879
00:42:21,560 --> 00:42:23,759
Speaker 1: he's an All Pro player, He's probably for Hall of Fame.

880
00:42:23,800 --> 00:42:26,719
Speaker 1: He's got anywhere from three to six more years left

881
00:42:26,760 --> 00:42:29,680
Speaker 1: of being a good player. I would guess, you know,

882
00:42:29,800 --> 00:42:32,560
Speaker 1: barring something unforeseen, Right, how many years we're gonna get?

883
00:42:34,239 --> 00:42:36,439
Speaker 1: We get five, We get Derwin James for five years.

884
00:42:36,560 --> 00:42:38,920
Speaker 1: Here's all right, I mean it's okay. Let's you wait.

885
00:42:38,960 --> 00:42:42,279
Speaker 1: At least you get Derwin James for five years at

886
00:42:42,320 --> 00:42:45,399
Speaker 1: a much smaller price, or you get Earl Thomas at

887
00:42:45,440 --> 00:42:48,680
Speaker 1: a much larger price, but obviously the proven commodity Old Thomas,

888
00:42:48,880 --> 00:42:51,719
Speaker 1: So you might get the proven commodity. But hey, every

889
00:42:51,760 --> 00:42:53,719
Speaker 1: player comes with a risk of busting. You have to

890
00:42:53,800 --> 00:42:58,880
Speaker 1: acknowledge that. So there's no question. But I don't I

891
00:42:58,960 --> 00:43:00,960
Speaker 1: don't think it's realistic to do a trade for Earl

892
00:43:01,000 --> 00:43:02,600
Speaker 1: Thomas at the end of the day, because you have

893
00:43:02,680 --> 00:43:04,439
Speaker 1: to have an assurance that you're gonna get that deal.

894
00:43:04,640 --> 00:43:07,640
Speaker 1: And I don't think that they want to commit that

895
00:43:07,719 --> 00:43:10,040
Speaker 1: type of money when they could go draft a guy.

896
00:43:10,160 --> 00:43:12,120
Speaker 1: I know, like people listening at home probably don't want

897
00:43:12,120 --> 00:43:14,800
Speaker 1: to hear that. Maybe that lord's asking for us though. Maybe.

898
00:43:15,239 --> 00:43:17,640
Speaker 1: But we notice Seattle doesn't have a second or a

899
00:43:17,719 --> 00:43:20,719
Speaker 1: third round. Would you trade pick eighty one even if

900
00:43:20,719 --> 00:43:22,960
Speaker 1: you don't feel great about a long term deal getting done? Yes,

901
00:43:23,000 --> 00:43:24,880
Speaker 1: I would trade eighty one to go get him. If

902
00:43:24,880 --> 00:43:26,759
Speaker 1: I didn't feel like yet, I would trade eighty one.

903
00:43:27,520 --> 00:43:32,640
Speaker 1: Fifty fifty gets me Derwin, it gets me James. Eighty

904
00:43:32,719 --> 00:43:35,480
Speaker 1: one I don't think gets me James. So yeah, you

905
00:43:35,520 --> 00:43:37,680
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. Sure, so I'm trying to think, Okay,

906
00:43:37,719 --> 00:43:39,759
Speaker 1: which one gets plus? We have to factor rid in

907
00:43:39,840 --> 00:43:42,600
Speaker 1: this scenario. You're also keeping your first round pick, right,

908
00:43:43,640 --> 00:43:46,400
Speaker 1: so your draft so it's you know, Derwin James, and

909
00:43:46,560 --> 00:43:50,080
Speaker 1: that's your first two picks or Earl Thomas plus your

910
00:43:50,080 --> 00:43:52,520
Speaker 1: first round to see that would give them They gives

911
00:43:52,560 --> 00:43:54,440
Speaker 1: them back to back picks in the second round. Probably,

912
00:43:54,440 --> 00:43:56,719
Speaker 1: I think Seattle's right ahead of you. They don't have

913
00:43:56,760 --> 00:43:58,360
Speaker 1: a second round. Oh no, that's okay, I got rid

914
00:43:58,400 --> 00:44:00,200
Speaker 1: of they don't have a second or a third. Right,

915
00:44:00,239 --> 00:44:02,839
Speaker 1: you're right, You're right, I'm sorry. That's that's why you're

916
00:44:02,880 --> 00:44:05,080
Speaker 1: seeing all these rumors about them trying to shop players

917
00:44:05,120 --> 00:44:07,000
Speaker 1: because they don't want to not pick in the you

918
00:44:07,080 --> 00:44:09,160
Speaker 1: know though, I mean, the second and third round are

919
00:44:09,200 --> 00:44:13,680
Speaker 1: so important. Yeah, I'm for I don't. I mean, hey,

920
00:44:13,760 --> 00:44:15,759
Speaker 1: anything's possible, but I don't. I don't see it. I

921
00:44:15,760 --> 00:44:17,399
Speaker 1: think it would be way more likely that they would

922
00:44:17,400 --> 00:44:20,719
Speaker 1: do something crazy to get Derwin James. Then I think

923
00:44:20,800 --> 00:44:24,120
Speaker 1: that's Stephen Jones mo myself. Yeah, I agree with that, David.

924
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Speaker 1: Thank you so much. Thanks everybody out there for some

925
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Speaker 1: great question. She guys always thinking outside the box. Thank

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Speaker 1: David Hellman, once again, I'll turn it over to you.

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Speaker 1: All right, we're gonna get ready for the under I'm

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Speaker 1: I'm just gonna fun finish up some of the guys

985
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Speaker 1: I had from the combine. We didn't get to him

986
00:47:24,000 --> 00:47:28,160
Speaker 1: on Tuesday, but tell me more about Alabama's Robert Foster.

987
00:47:28,520 --> 00:47:30,920
Speaker 1: Get a lot of questions about him. I think kind

988
00:47:30,960 --> 00:47:33,960
Speaker 1: of like Noah Brown. People are intrigued by the super

989
00:47:34,040 --> 00:47:37,840
Speaker 1: talented guy who didn't really have that type of production

990
00:47:37,880 --> 00:47:41,160
Speaker 1: at a big time school, five star recruit, wouldn't he Yep, yeah,

991
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Speaker 1: big time recruit. And you know, when we watch tape

992
00:47:43,880 --> 00:47:46,239
Speaker 1: of him, it was a struggle because you're trying to

993
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Speaker 1: find catches, You're trying to find opportunities where he was

994
00:47:50,719 --> 00:47:54,360
Speaker 1: he was targeted and far and few between in that offense,

995
00:47:55,280 --> 00:47:58,680
Speaker 1: and it's it's it makes me even more impressed that

996
00:47:58,760 --> 00:48:01,320
Speaker 1: Calvin really had the production he did with that quarterback.

997
00:48:01,680 --> 00:48:04,719
Speaker 1: But he had I think fifteen catches this year. We did.

998
00:48:04,800 --> 00:48:06,840
Speaker 1: We blew the touchdown, We blew through some tape to

999
00:48:06,920 --> 00:48:08,880
Speaker 1: try and find him. I mean, I say this, I

1000
00:48:09,200 --> 00:48:11,760
Speaker 1: really love the kid from the aspect of the speed.

1001
00:48:12,080 --> 00:48:14,719
Speaker 1: I think he's got some smoothness to him though. You know,

1002
00:48:14,800 --> 00:48:16,400
Speaker 1: when you watch him run, I mean he's kind of

1003
00:48:16,400 --> 00:48:18,040
Speaker 1: a good of a bit of a glider, you know,

1004
00:48:18,239 --> 00:48:20,719
Speaker 1: and the way that thing. But and then you know

1005
00:48:20,840 --> 00:48:23,600
Speaker 1: they throw him the little touch pass, you know, and

1006
00:48:23,680 --> 00:48:26,000
Speaker 1: all that good good in the open field things like

1007
00:48:26,160 --> 00:48:28,800
Speaker 1: a lot of screens, a lot of screens, vertical routes

1008
00:48:28,840 --> 00:48:31,399
Speaker 1: and screens. That's really his big, big game. But yeah,

1009
00:48:31,719 --> 00:48:33,719
Speaker 1: you know, I thought I saw a guy that really

1010
00:48:33,760 --> 00:48:35,920
Speaker 1: didn't trust his hands all that much though too, I

1011
00:48:36,000 --> 00:48:39,239
Speaker 1: know they the ball he'd jumped when he didn't have to.

1012
00:48:39,840 --> 00:48:43,400
Speaker 1: So his best trade is his ability to run. And

1013
00:48:43,560 --> 00:48:46,359
Speaker 1: that's kind of where if someone brings him in, it'll

1014
00:48:46,360 --> 00:48:49,120
Speaker 1: be on a trade, could be a draft late third day.

1015
00:48:49,520 --> 00:48:51,840
Speaker 1: But it's just because he's six one and he's one

1016
00:48:51,960 --> 00:48:53,719
Speaker 1: hundred and ninety six pounds and he runs a four

1017
00:48:53,840 --> 00:48:55,839
Speaker 1: four one. There's no consistency, and I don't. I don't.

1018
00:48:56,000 --> 00:48:57,600
Speaker 1: I didn't see anything on tape that would make me

1019
00:48:57,640 --> 00:48:59,680
Speaker 1: believe that's going to change at the next level. I agree.

1020
00:48:59,800 --> 00:49:04,960
Speaker 1: I agree. Tell me more about Wisconsin linebacker slash edge

1021
00:49:05,040 --> 00:49:08,680
Speaker 1: rusher Leon Jacobs. I'll let you take this one. Brought us.

1022
00:49:08,719 --> 00:49:11,960
Speaker 1: I know he was that one. He was you and Jeff.

1023
00:49:12,040 --> 00:49:14,880
Speaker 1: You guys love this guy. Oh, no, Jeff hasn't seen him.

1024
00:49:14,920 --> 00:49:16,719
Speaker 1: I don't think. Oh yeah, he put him in the

1025
00:49:16,760 --> 00:49:18,919
Speaker 1: second round. Oh did he really? You guys watched him together?

1026
00:49:19,120 --> 00:49:21,200
Speaker 1: Or did we watch Jacobs? Oh, we did watch him together.

1027
00:49:21,280 --> 00:49:23,319
Speaker 1: I'll tell you what, man, Jeff just falls in love

1028
00:49:23,360 --> 00:49:25,960
Speaker 1: with people. Though, no, he he Jeff, Jess, where'd you

1029
00:49:25,960 --> 00:49:27,839
Speaker 1: put him? Brought us? Put him in? I put him

1030
00:49:27,840 --> 00:49:29,839
Speaker 1: in the third, that's hi. I put him in the third.

1031
00:49:30,040 --> 00:49:34,319
Speaker 1: Sixty six pounds, four to four eight. I'll tell you what, man,

1032
00:49:34,400 --> 00:49:37,360
Speaker 1: This guy well built, players, got some upper body power,

1033
00:49:37,480 --> 00:49:39,839
Speaker 1: hustles to make stops, got a nose for the ball,

1034
00:49:39,920 --> 00:49:43,440
Speaker 1: attacks the pocket. They use him as a rusher, you know,

1035
00:49:43,480 --> 00:49:45,440
Speaker 1: he plays out on the edge. So you say, every

1036
00:49:45,520 --> 00:49:47,160
Speaker 1: once in a while, you'll see him rush, you never

1037
00:49:47,520 --> 00:49:50,040
Speaker 1: see him really drop. Is he best in a three four?

1038
00:49:50,480 --> 00:49:52,960
Speaker 1: That's what's what's this team gonna do with him? I

1039
00:49:53,000 --> 00:49:54,880
Speaker 1: think he will playm with Sam is what they do,

1040
00:49:55,080 --> 00:49:57,480
Speaker 1: and they can. And the thing I like about him,

1041
00:49:57,480 --> 00:50:00,040
Speaker 1: I like how physical he is. I mean, that's I

1042
00:50:00,120 --> 00:50:03,759
Speaker 1: saw a guy again closed down the line, swats at

1043
00:50:03,800 --> 00:50:06,439
Speaker 1: the ball in the pocket when he's rushing, and he's

1044
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Speaker 1: a hard guy to get around. When you try and

1045
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Speaker 1: get around him on the edge, he's able to stretch

1046
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Speaker 1: it and kind of make not kind of make the

1047
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Speaker 1: play and make the guy go out of balance or

1048
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Speaker 1: make a physical tackle right there. He's one of those

1049
00:50:19,160 --> 00:50:20,960
Speaker 1: guys when I didn't know anything about him going in

1050
00:50:21,040 --> 00:50:22,759
Speaker 1: the combine and then he runs a great time, and

1051
00:50:22,760 --> 00:50:24,480
Speaker 1: I'm now I'm like thinking, Okay, go back and look

1052
00:50:24,520 --> 00:50:27,600
Speaker 1: at these guys. But I'm thinking, Okay, give me the

1053
00:50:27,719 --> 00:50:30,880
Speaker 1: linebackers that are six one, two hundred and forty pounds,

1054
00:50:31,440 --> 00:50:34,080
Speaker 1: you know, give me those types of guy. I know

1055
00:50:34,160 --> 00:50:36,920
Speaker 1: we're talking a lot about linebackers like Griffin that's two

1056
00:50:37,040 --> 00:50:40,359
Speaker 1: twenty seven. We talk about Smith that's two twenty five,

1057
00:50:40,480 --> 00:50:43,200
Speaker 1: two twenty six. I'm thinking, give me a little bit,

1058
00:50:43,200 --> 00:50:46,520
Speaker 1: bigger linebacker that can run. That's what I saw with

1059
00:50:46,640 --> 00:50:49,680
Speaker 1: this kid. And I think that I was kind of

1060
00:50:49,719 --> 00:50:53,200
Speaker 1: impressed with the way he played, balance, that he causes turnovers,

1061
00:50:53,560 --> 00:50:56,040
Speaker 1: He's got some change of direction to him. I didn't

1062
00:50:56,040 --> 00:50:58,120
Speaker 1: have a problem. And I watched good competition. I mean

1063
00:50:58,160 --> 00:51:01,080
Speaker 1: I watched him play Michigan Ohio State Perdue. I mean

1064
00:51:01,160 --> 00:51:03,479
Speaker 1: he was having some good, good snaps against those cats.

1065
00:51:03,600 --> 00:51:05,520
Speaker 1: This guy kind of be like a Kyle Wilbur, like

1066
00:51:05,600 --> 00:51:08,160
Speaker 1: occasional sam special teams. I think, yeah, I think this

1067
00:51:08,320 --> 00:51:10,960
Speaker 1: to be one. I think this guy when I remember

1068
00:51:11,040 --> 00:51:14,600
Speaker 1: watching Kyle Wilbur's film at Wake Forest, Yeah, I didn't

1069
00:51:14,600 --> 00:51:18,399
Speaker 1: see Kyle Wilbur play like this. While Wilbur was kind

1070
00:51:18,400 --> 00:51:21,000
Speaker 1: of a switch they had hand down, stand up, they

1071
00:51:21,120 --> 00:51:24,239
Speaker 1: switched schemes on him. Kyle Wilber was drafted to play

1072
00:51:24,280 --> 00:51:27,760
Speaker 1: in a three fourth yea anyway. But this guy, I'm

1073
00:51:27,880 --> 00:51:30,399
Speaker 1: kind of a I'm on board with this. Hint Leon

1074
00:51:30,600 --> 00:51:36,160
Speaker 1: Jacobs and an also kid, the the Avery Kid from Memphis. Yeah, Jenny,

1075
00:51:36,239 --> 00:51:38,080
Speaker 1: two guys that are over two hundred and forty pounds,

1076
00:51:38,160 --> 00:51:41,160
Speaker 1: you're just ruining future. Tell me more. Sorry, good God,

1077
00:51:41,239 --> 00:51:43,040
Speaker 1: sorry about that. I see a little more of a

1078
00:51:43,120 --> 00:51:45,200
Speaker 1: project with Jacobs. But I mean you I think you

1079
00:51:45,440 --> 00:51:47,720
Speaker 1: you covered him. That that sums. But you can disagree

1080
00:51:47,760 --> 00:51:49,440
Speaker 1: with me on that. That's okay. No, I mean I

1081
00:51:49,560 --> 00:51:51,200
Speaker 1: don't have him in the third I have him more

1082
00:51:51,280 --> 00:51:53,719
Speaker 1: on day three. Um, but because I think he's just

1083
00:51:53,719 --> 00:51:55,040
Speaker 1: a little more of a project. But I mean he

1084
00:51:55,120 --> 00:51:56,880
Speaker 1: hit on a strength. I mean he's a physical player

1085
00:51:56,920 --> 00:51:59,080
Speaker 1: who who has some traits to work with. So yeah,

1086
00:51:59,080 --> 00:52:02,320
Speaker 1: it makes sense. Okay. Talked about some Louisiana players in

1087
00:52:02,719 --> 00:52:06,920
Speaker 1: the first segment. Tell me more about Grambling State running

1088
00:52:06,960 --> 00:52:12,920
Speaker 1: back Martez Carter. Fun player, really fun player. Undersize he's

1089
00:52:12,920 --> 00:52:15,040
Speaker 1: got a little Treat co into him. You know he's

1090
00:52:15,080 --> 00:52:19,320
Speaker 1: not as Okay, let me draw you in with that.

1091
00:52:20,040 --> 00:52:22,239
Speaker 1: Not doesn't have the same ceiling as Treat Cohen. But

1092
00:52:22,400 --> 00:52:24,680
Speaker 1: he can help you out and respect that. He can

1093
00:52:24,719 --> 00:52:26,359
Speaker 1: do a little bit of everything. He can rush the ball,

1094
00:52:26,400 --> 00:52:27,919
Speaker 1: he can catch the ball at the backfield. He lied

1095
00:52:27,920 --> 00:52:30,840
Speaker 1: about wide at Grambling. Yeah, pass protection, he's he's a

1096
00:52:30,920 --> 00:52:32,920
Speaker 1: one pop daddy, but you know he can get the

1097
00:52:33,000 --> 00:52:36,040
Speaker 1: job done. He had like four kick returns in college,

1098
00:52:36,080 --> 00:52:38,280
Speaker 1: so he can help it lane where he just ripped

1099
00:52:38,320 --> 00:52:39,600
Speaker 1: it right in the middle. Of the thing. He can

1100
00:52:39,600 --> 00:52:43,400
Speaker 1: help you out across the across the depth Chartum, you know,

1101
00:52:43,440 --> 00:52:45,239
Speaker 1: he's limited because he's not the biggest guy. He's like

1102
00:52:45,880 --> 00:52:49,560
Speaker 1: six two h five, not the biggest guy. But well,

1103
00:52:49,840 --> 00:52:53,520
Speaker 1: gunbar action. Yeah, I'll tell you what though, good player.

1104
00:52:53,680 --> 00:52:55,520
Speaker 1: This guy is a really good player. And I mean

1105
00:52:55,640 --> 00:52:57,719
Speaker 1: he is one of those guys that you watch him

1106
00:52:57,760 --> 00:53:01,080
Speaker 1: play and I appreciate Dane hooking me up with this guy.

1107
00:53:01,840 --> 00:53:04,920
Speaker 1: Ball goes left and it's dead and all of a

1108
00:53:04,960 --> 00:53:07,960
Speaker 1: sudden it's plant left foot and now we're going around

1109
00:53:08,040 --> 00:53:10,839
Speaker 1: the right end and we are running through people. I mean,

1110
00:53:11,120 --> 00:53:13,200
Speaker 1: he's a physical guy. He's right about the one pop

1111
00:53:13,320 --> 00:53:15,520
Speaker 1: daddy bit, you know, with the with the past protection.

1112
00:53:15,640 --> 00:53:17,399
Speaker 1: But one of the best players I saw him. Mate.

1113
00:53:17,840 --> 00:53:20,120
Speaker 1: He hit again. He's not afraid to hit a defensive end.

1114
00:53:20,640 --> 00:53:22,840
Speaker 1: It's like a tennis ball going off a tank. You know,

1115
00:53:22,920 --> 00:53:25,120
Speaker 1: he's just bouncing off. But that's what he does. He

1116
00:53:25,440 --> 00:53:28,480
Speaker 1: hit the guy and got kind of buckled, and then

1117
00:53:28,520 --> 00:53:31,040
Speaker 1: his quarterback was scrambling, kind of gave his quarterback an opportunity.

1118
00:53:31,239 --> 00:53:32,839
Speaker 1: But what do he do after he hit the guy?

1119
00:53:32,920 --> 00:53:34,920
Speaker 1: He went out in the route. They threw him the

1120
00:53:34,960 --> 00:53:37,440
Speaker 1: ball and he went like about thirty yards. So he

1121
00:53:38,360 --> 00:53:42,480
Speaker 1: has a presence about him, remember rolling to the right. Yeah,

1122
00:53:43,239 --> 00:53:45,960
Speaker 1: I'm just And I loved Lance Dunbar as a guy,

1123
00:53:46,200 --> 00:53:48,399
Speaker 1: and when he was healthy he was so much fun

1124
00:53:48,480 --> 00:53:52,239
Speaker 1: to watch. But I just worry about it for four

1125
00:53:52,400 --> 00:53:55,040
Speaker 1: years watching Lance get hurt after every good play he made.

1126
00:53:55,040 --> 00:53:57,440
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go on record, this guy is better than

1127
00:53:57,520 --> 00:54:00,960
Speaker 1: Lance Dunbar. Ever thought is he healthy year? Oh yeah,

1128
00:54:01,040 --> 00:54:04,040
Speaker 1: he played. He played college. He's got a little bit

1129
00:54:04,040 --> 00:54:07,920
Speaker 1: of a background. Uh, he corner. What he's got, He's

1130
00:54:07,920 --> 00:54:09,960
Speaker 1: got all kinds of things going. In high school at

1131
00:54:10,000 --> 00:54:17,480
Speaker 1: five six, he was a quarterback. Yea, and okay, I'm

1132
00:54:17,880 --> 00:54:21,160
Speaker 1: five six right, I'm just imagining myself playing quarterback. He

1133
00:54:21,280 --> 00:54:24,719
Speaker 1: also played basketball, and he was suspended for most of

1134
00:54:24,800 --> 00:54:29,400
Speaker 1: his senior year. Uh some academics, some eligibility issues. And

1135
00:54:29,800 --> 00:54:32,800
Speaker 1: he got a full ride to go play basketball and

1136
00:54:32,880 --> 00:54:35,360
Speaker 1: an Naia school can't remember the name of it, somewhere

1137
00:54:35,400 --> 00:54:38,920
Speaker 1: in Texas, goes there to play basketball. After a semester,

1138
00:54:39,080 --> 00:54:41,359
Speaker 1: he gives that up, goes back to home to Louisiana

1139
00:54:41,800 --> 00:54:43,759
Speaker 1: and gets hooked up with Grambly and he walks on

1140
00:54:43,880 --> 00:54:46,680
Speaker 1: as a corner. And he kept begging the coach, give

1141
00:54:46,719 --> 00:54:49,080
Speaker 1: me offensive snap, give me offensive snaps. They finally do,

1142
00:54:49,800 --> 00:54:52,279
Speaker 1: and or they started him as like returning kicks. Then

1143
00:54:52,280 --> 00:54:54,239
Speaker 1: they put him on offense the next year and he

1144
00:54:54,360 --> 00:54:56,000
Speaker 1: kind of blew up from there. Led the league or

1145
00:54:56,080 --> 00:54:58,719
Speaker 1: led the team in rushing the last three seasons. Really

1146
00:54:58,800 --> 00:55:01,400
Speaker 1: fun player who's has a little bit of baggage, but

1147
00:55:01,640 --> 00:55:04,359
Speaker 1: it's kind of shaped where he's or how far he's come,

1148
00:55:04,760 --> 00:55:07,359
Speaker 1: and you know who he is today with what he's

1149
00:55:07,360 --> 00:55:09,680
Speaker 1: had to deal with in the past. How long ago

1150
00:55:09,760 --> 00:55:12,960
Speaker 1: is the most recent baggage is it? It's not in college,

1151
00:55:12,960 --> 00:55:15,200
Speaker 1: it's from a kind of it's you know, the company

1152
00:55:15,280 --> 00:55:17,520
Speaker 1: that you keep. Yeah, you know growing up where he did,

1153
00:55:17,680 --> 00:55:20,320
Speaker 1: and you know his dad's been incarcerated for most of

1154
00:55:20,520 --> 00:55:23,799
Speaker 1: his life. Float up, load up the tape of this kid, Brian, Yeah,

1155
00:55:23,880 --> 00:55:25,759
Speaker 1: I want to You'll have fun watching him, all right.

1156
00:55:25,760 --> 00:55:27,239
Speaker 1: I want to make sure we get to this guy.

1157
00:55:27,520 --> 00:55:28,920
Speaker 1: I've got two more, but I want to make sure

1158
00:55:28,960 --> 00:55:30,680
Speaker 1: we get to this guy before we run out of time,

1159
00:55:30,680 --> 00:55:33,160
Speaker 1: because Dan, Brian and I are going to try to

1160
00:55:33,200 --> 00:55:36,200
Speaker 1: set you up here. Oh great, I got a I

1161
00:55:36,320 --> 00:55:40,480
Speaker 1: got a request on Twitter from a nobody of nobody's

1162
00:55:40,560 --> 00:55:42,440
Speaker 1: and the guy basically was like, I want to see

1163
00:55:42,480 --> 00:55:44,160
Speaker 1: if Dan can get this guy, and I do too,

1164
00:55:44,480 --> 00:55:46,640
Speaker 1: So Brian watched him just in case you don't know,

1165
00:55:47,360 --> 00:55:49,560
Speaker 1: but I want to see if you got him. Tell

1166
00:55:49,640 --> 00:55:54,600
Speaker 1: me more about Buffalo State defensive tackle Khalil Somerville is

1167
00:55:54,960 --> 00:55:56,880
Speaker 1: his mom asked you this question. I don't know who

1168
00:55:57,880 --> 00:56:00,440
Speaker 1: is asking about him. I don't know who are you? Uh?

1169
00:56:01,040 --> 00:56:03,480
Speaker 1: I do know who he is. He watched him. He

1170
00:56:04,320 --> 00:56:07,160
Speaker 1: played at the College Great Iron Showcase, damn in Addison.

1171
00:56:08,400 --> 00:56:11,480
Speaker 1: He's a fun He's you are sick in the best

1172
00:56:11,560 --> 00:56:13,520
Speaker 1: way possible. He can get a field a little bit.

1173
00:56:13,640 --> 00:56:16,680
Speaker 1: I mean he's not the not the most explosive, not

1174
00:56:16,719 --> 00:56:18,560
Speaker 1: the most powerful, but when he does get an edge,

1175
00:56:18,560 --> 00:56:21,040
Speaker 1: he can work past the shoulder and you know, play

1176
00:56:21,080 --> 00:56:22,319
Speaker 1: the one. He can played a little bit. One played

1177
00:56:22,360 --> 00:56:27,080
Speaker 1: one a little three. But it is Division three YEA.

1178
00:56:28,000 --> 00:56:31,080
Speaker 1: For the record, I did not tell Dane anything about this.

1179
00:56:31,760 --> 00:56:34,480
Speaker 1: He didn't like, he didn't know this was coming. Buffalo

1180
00:56:34,680 --> 00:56:39,160
Speaker 1: State is D three. Yeah, you know the conference. Like

1181
00:56:39,840 --> 00:56:42,279
Speaker 1: I'm come from a Division three You're still I don't

1182
00:56:42,320 --> 00:56:45,800
Speaker 1: care if it's amazing. The film I watched was Hertwick College.

1183
00:56:46,800 --> 00:56:51,320
Speaker 1: Never I've never watched Hartwick College. They played a field.

1184
00:56:51,480 --> 00:56:53,880
Speaker 1: They played Hartwid players in the field. That's like football

1185
00:56:53,960 --> 00:56:56,400
Speaker 1: across most of those fools like that, Yeah, pick up

1186
00:56:56,440 --> 00:56:58,560
Speaker 1: in the background. There's like, no, it's not like it's

1187
00:56:58,600 --> 00:57:02,440
Speaker 1: not like the Boud's house at Ali. Marpett went to

1188
00:57:02,480 --> 00:57:06,279
Speaker 1: school about the Hobart pet But yeah, yeah, there's probably

1189
00:57:06,320 --> 00:57:08,239
Speaker 1: like twenty five people in the stands. Though. He's got

1190
00:57:08,320 --> 00:57:10,000
Speaker 1: this guy, right, I mean this guy. I mean I

1191
00:57:10,440 --> 00:57:12,680
Speaker 1: saw like a one gap player when you know, when

1192
00:57:12,719 --> 00:57:15,680
Speaker 1: you right, when you watch him, he goes. I mean,

1193
00:57:15,760 --> 00:57:18,360
Speaker 1: he's like quick up the field. He's a he's got

1194
00:57:18,440 --> 00:57:20,800
Speaker 1: a square built guy. He does have I think a

1195
00:57:20,840 --> 00:57:24,840
Speaker 1: little bit more power than maybe but I think about him.

1196
00:57:24,880 --> 00:57:27,400
Speaker 1: No pass rush moves at all. It's all about pushing.

1197
00:57:28,600 --> 00:57:30,840
Speaker 1: But he wears number ninety nine. Oh good, and and

1198
00:57:31,040 --> 00:57:32,600
Speaker 1: so he's just kind of like going up the field.

1199
00:57:32,600 --> 00:57:34,680
Speaker 1: He's ben be a bit disruptive guy. I noticed that

1200
00:57:34,800 --> 00:57:37,880
Speaker 1: the college grenar and showcase that he had some bad weight.

1201
00:57:38,040 --> 00:57:41,360
Speaker 1: Needs to strength and conditioning programs to do him some good. Um,

1202
00:57:41,800 --> 00:57:43,760
Speaker 1: but I don't think he's getting drafted. I'm gonna say

1203
00:57:43,800 --> 00:57:46,480
Speaker 1: draftable grade or Buffalo State, we'll bring him in. We'll

1204
00:57:46,480 --> 00:57:48,400
Speaker 1: bring him in as an undrafted guy. How about you

1205
00:57:48,480 --> 00:57:51,040
Speaker 1: knowing about it? That's good. That was that's seriously impressive.

1206
00:57:52,280 --> 00:57:53,840
Speaker 1: Thank you. We have time for one more. Just go

1207
00:57:53,920 --> 00:57:55,560
Speaker 1: one more real quick. If we could tell me more

1208
00:57:55,600 --> 00:58:00,000
Speaker 1: about UCLA receiver Jordan. Lastly, speaking about guys at last,

1209
00:58:00,000 --> 00:58:03,800
Speaker 1: So you're not last or not least. Uh. This guy's

1210
00:58:03,840 --> 00:58:08,680
Speaker 1: really talented just from a physical standpoint, but he can't

1211
00:58:08,720 --> 00:58:12,000
Speaker 1: catch the ball with any consistency. That's true. But he's

1212
00:58:12,040 --> 00:58:13,760
Speaker 1: a very good athlete and he can create his own

1213
00:58:13,760 --> 00:58:16,120
Speaker 1: space get down the field, but he's so inconsistent at

1214
00:58:16,120 --> 00:58:19,120
Speaker 1: the catch point. And then he's just he's got attitude issues.

1215
00:58:19,200 --> 00:58:21,680
Speaker 1: He was suspended this past year for three games just

1216
00:58:21,840 --> 00:58:25,240
Speaker 1: because he, you know, issues with the coaching staff. So

1217
00:58:25,440 --> 00:58:28,040
Speaker 1: there's plenty of issues in his background that you kind

1218
00:58:28,120 --> 00:58:30,920
Speaker 1: of you worry about with him. But he's he's a

1219
00:58:31,000 --> 00:58:33,160
Speaker 1: draftable player. He'll he will get drafted, and you kind

1220
00:58:33,200 --> 00:58:34,320
Speaker 1: of hope it works out for the best. He's not

1221
00:58:34,320 --> 00:58:37,040
Speaker 1: gonna win many fifty fifty balls. That's just his game.

1222
00:58:37,160 --> 00:58:39,680
Speaker 1: That's not his game. He needs free access and routes.

1223
00:58:40,080 --> 00:58:42,760
Speaker 1: He doesn't need to be contested. You know, he's always

1224
00:58:42,800 --> 00:58:44,960
Speaker 1: gonna That's the thing I thought, up and down the

1225
00:58:45,040 --> 00:58:46,760
Speaker 1: way he catches the ball. I didn't feel like he

1226
00:58:46,840 --> 00:58:49,040
Speaker 1: was a reliable guy. That was the biggest problem I

1227
00:58:49,120 --> 00:58:51,480
Speaker 1: had in my report on him. A quote from his

1228
00:58:51,560 --> 00:58:53,760
Speaker 1: high school head coach. He's always kind of a three

1229
00:58:53,800 --> 00:58:56,360
Speaker 1: steps forward, two steps back kind of guy. So if

1230
00:58:56,400 --> 00:58:58,720
Speaker 1: your high school coach is saying that about, there you go.

1231
00:58:59,240 --> 00:59:01,000
Speaker 1: And the fun thing about tell me more is like

1232
00:59:01,160 --> 00:59:03,320
Speaker 1: usually I mean, we got you got. I got two

1233
00:59:03,400 --> 00:59:05,400
Speaker 1: good reviews out of five, but the majority of the

1234
00:59:05,480 --> 00:59:09,000
Speaker 1: reviews are not usually glowing you know what. And then

1235
00:59:09,080 --> 00:59:11,920
Speaker 1: but but now people know when these guys get drafted.

1236
00:59:11,960 --> 00:59:14,880
Speaker 1: You've heard it for here first absolutely, but Kali Khalil Somerville,

1237
00:59:14,880 --> 00:59:18,520
Speaker 1: when he's a seventh round state remember that. Here you go.

1238
00:59:19,520 --> 00:59:22,760
Speaker 1: Thanks Dane, Thanks David, Thanks Garrison, Thanks everybody out there

1239
00:59:22,880 --> 00:59:25,720
Speaker 1: for hanging out with us this week. Uh we'll be

1240
00:59:25,800 --> 00:59:29,240
Speaker 1: back with the Draft Show Monday at ten am. Have

1241
00:59:29,360 --> 00:59:31,520
Speaker 1: a great weekend and continue to watch that tape. We'll

1242
00:59:31,520 --> 00:59:31,800
Speaker 1: see you