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Speaker 2: We were getting ready for the most freaking excruciating game

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Speaker 7: Before pat Riley there was nineteen eighty eight, Miami doesn't

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Speaker 7: It was not the big time they were doing. They

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Speaker 7: This is before Lasuth, before lasal Off the Palmetto. They

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Speaker 7: Man the so to see it grow from there, right,

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Speaker 7: So you're hiring all the pizazz of whatever pat Riley

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Speaker 6: It feels part.

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Speaker 7: Science lab humans humans as test pigeons for how far

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Speaker 6: Look, the first word in culture is called okay.

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Speaker 7: Look, so you guys, people think playing a game for

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Speaker 7: at both the Dolphins, the undefeated Dolphins, shoeless Expressway, shoeless steakhouse,

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Speaker 6: You guys, that.

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Speaker 1: I'm watching a game the other night and you're miked

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Speaker 9: Little bit more natural now because I've gotten more comfortable

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Speaker 9: just like watching everybody, I was slowly taking my notes

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Speaker 1: And but that's the best way. The best way is

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Speaker 9: I kind of just try to let it naturally come

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Speaker 9: I'm not. I'm not that type of but you put the.

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Speaker 9: This ain't about trying to be personal or this, that

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Speaker 1: I'll be having my own fan question. Sorry, killing go ahead,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I feel like it takes a toll on mental

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Speaker 2: Not sure it's just anything you can handle that pressure.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, I mean pressure makes Diamonds pressure. Bill Diamonds also

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Speaker 9: think pressure like pressure isn't like a real thing, bro,

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Speaker 9: Like pressure is like what people like. People are putting

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Speaker 1: I like that. I like that.

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Speaker 2: One of the coaches told me growing up when I

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Speaker 3: You know what I mean?

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Speaker 1: That's why we were lying on the work. But there's

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Speaker 9: Hundred shots last night coming to play the game. Bro,

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Speaker 2: Point.

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Speaker 1: Great point. You kids at home, We put the work

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Speaker 2: Man, If you're gonna put that much work and you

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Speaker 3: I'm with you on that, exactly.

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Speaker 2: H Fellow Wisconsin man, Tyler the goat, fuck it, getting hero.

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Speaker 2: What's your favorite thing about Miami? You think the world

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Speaker 1: Uh, it's your favorite thing about Miami? I don't know.

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Speaker 6: I feel like I don't.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you know it better than what's my favorite thing

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Speaker 9: We just played in Toronto, Boston. It was like twenty

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Speaker 1: We got to pull out of Oh this is it. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: See, I'm gonna be honest that this year. That would

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Speaker 1: When I was that young, I would I wouldn't that

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Speaker 1: Put you here. It's just that easy. Though you hear

442
00:22:37,920 --> 00:22:39,840
Speaker 1: a real one. He is a real one. He is

443
00:22:39,880 --> 00:22:40,320
Speaker 1: a real one.

444
00:22:40,560 --> 00:22:42,000
Speaker 2: You gotta put that on account. Gotta put that on

445
00:22:42,040 --> 00:22:44,000
Speaker 2: the count to get that jersey. We go to walking now,

446
00:22:44,080 --> 00:22:45,040
Speaker 2: I got one more question?

447
00:22:45,880 --> 00:22:47,680
Speaker 1: Can I get one more? Can I get one more question?

448
00:22:48,240 --> 00:22:51,320
Speaker 1: What does what does legacy mean to you? What does

449
00:22:51,359 --> 00:22:53,520
Speaker 1: Tyler he Tyler Heroes legacy mean to you? What does

450
00:22:53,640 --> 00:22:58,280
Speaker 1: that look like? And like ten years, say, do I

451
00:22:58,359 --> 00:23:00,600
Speaker 1: want to accomplish? Like what would be good for me?

452
00:23:00,800 --> 00:23:06,520
Speaker 1: What would be the ideal career for talent hero? I

453
00:23:06,640 --> 00:23:09,760
Speaker 1: really do want to bring a championship to Miami.

454
00:23:09,600 --> 00:23:11,520
Speaker 3: Like I feel like just.

455
00:23:13,080 --> 00:23:14,840
Speaker 9: I don't know if this is the right reason, but

456
00:23:15,000 --> 00:23:18,120
Speaker 9: like obviously winning the championship, but I just can't imagine

457
00:23:18,160 --> 00:23:21,639
Speaker 9: bro parade down bits game, but that like I can

458
00:23:21,760 --> 00:23:23,280
Speaker 9: see it bright and I just want to feel it.

459
00:23:23,359 --> 00:23:26,960
Speaker 9: I know that would be crazy, so that for sure,

460
00:23:27,040 --> 00:23:30,600
Speaker 9: obviously I wouldn't even say it multiple I just want

461
00:23:30,640 --> 00:23:32,399
Speaker 9: to be an All Star at some point, I just

462
00:23:32,480 --> 00:23:37,280
Speaker 9: want to get that experience All Star, winning the championship

463
00:23:38,200 --> 00:23:41,000
Speaker 9: and then just giving back to the community. I feel

464
00:23:41,040 --> 00:23:43,600
Speaker 9: like when I when I first came to Miami, I

465
00:23:43,680 --> 00:23:46,280
Speaker 9: told one of my boys, I'm like, yo, we're walking around.

466
00:23:46,359 --> 00:23:49,840
Speaker 9: All I see is I'm talking about from the wealthiest

467
00:23:49,880 --> 00:23:51,960
Speaker 9: person in the city to the least wealthier.

468
00:23:52,080 --> 00:23:54,960
Speaker 3: They all got a d Wade jersey. Like I need me.

469
00:23:55,119 --> 00:23:57,680
Speaker 9: I need the same influence in this city as d Wade.

470
00:23:58,160 --> 00:24:00,520
Speaker 9: Obviously not as much because of how much he's done.

471
00:24:00,600 --> 00:24:03,720
Speaker 1: And this is Wade County. At the end of somebody

472
00:24:03,800 --> 00:24:06,560
Speaker 1: always set the stand up, but somebody always come along

473
00:24:06,760 --> 00:24:10,120
Speaker 1: and surpass it. But I used to walk around when

474
00:24:10,119 --> 00:24:11,520
Speaker 1: I was nineteen twenty in Miami.

475
00:24:11,560 --> 00:24:13,399
Speaker 9: I'm like, bro, I want to make sure everyone in

476
00:24:13,440 --> 00:24:15,399
Speaker 9: this city has a Hero jersey by the time it

477
00:24:15,480 --> 00:24:15,760
Speaker 9: is done.

478
00:24:15,880 --> 00:24:16,680
Speaker 3: So that's love.

479
00:24:16,800 --> 00:24:18,120
Speaker 1: So like, that's that's what I want.

480
00:24:18,240 --> 00:24:18,400
Speaker 9: Love.

481
00:24:18,920 --> 00:24:20,720
Speaker 1: Well, I'm gonna tell you one thing. I want to

482
00:24:20,760 --> 00:24:24,000
Speaker 1: be the open show up on Ring Night. And whatever

483
00:24:24,280 --> 00:24:26,680
Speaker 1: happened it was, I ain't gonna I was a little

484
00:24:26,720 --> 00:24:29,520
Speaker 1: jealous watching for the Celtics. I want to be show

485
00:24:29,560 --> 00:24:30,800
Speaker 1: up on Ring Night and I want to see you

486
00:24:30,880 --> 00:24:34,440
Speaker 1: in the finals sitting courtside talking. I want to I

487
00:24:34,520 --> 00:24:37,080
Speaker 1: want to be that. That's the I want to be

488
00:24:37,200 --> 00:24:40,320
Speaker 1: showing up like that in the finals and talk right.

489
00:24:41,040 --> 00:24:42,840
Speaker 1: Nothing for nothing, man, I just want it for y'all.

490
00:24:42,920 --> 00:24:43,000
Speaker 2: Bro.

491
00:24:43,119 --> 00:24:45,159
Speaker 1: I have had my time, I've had my fun. But

492
00:24:45,200 --> 00:24:46,720
Speaker 1: I want to see y'all hang that batter because I

493
00:24:46,840 --> 00:24:49,679
Speaker 1: know how hard you. I know what y'all put into it, man,

494
00:24:49,800 --> 00:24:50,960
Speaker 1: So I appreciate you.

495
00:24:51,080 --> 00:24:53,760
Speaker 2: Hey, Tyler, before we get you out of here though,

496
00:24:54,320 --> 00:24:55,240
Speaker 2: you know, because it's not in the.

497
00:24:55,240 --> 00:24:56,960
Speaker 3: Locker room no more. You didn't give him some og

498
00:24:57,080 --> 00:24:58,960
Speaker 3: advice on the way out. Way please, I'm still in

499
00:24:59,080 --> 00:24:59,920
Speaker 3: the locker room.

500
00:25:00,000 --> 00:25:03,520
Speaker 1: You don't see Bam busts my lip today. He spoke

501
00:25:03,560 --> 00:25:07,120
Speaker 1: to us yesterday. That's why we look. Yeah, I spoke

502
00:25:07,119 --> 00:25:09,240
Speaker 1: to him for liking Bam bust my clip. I'm still

503
00:25:09,280 --> 00:25:10,000
Speaker 1: in the locker room.

504
00:25:09,920 --> 00:25:12,480
Speaker 2: Man, Why bust your lip?

505
00:25:12,520 --> 00:25:14,560
Speaker 1: For I was practicing. You ain't just punched me in

506
00:25:14,600 --> 00:25:17,720
Speaker 1: the mouth. Don't do that. I was practicing, Yeah, don't

507
00:25:17,800 --> 00:25:19,200
Speaker 1: do that. He just pushed me in the mouth. I

508
00:25:19,280 --> 00:25:20,800
Speaker 1: was practicing with him and he hit me in my

509
00:25:20,880 --> 00:25:25,879
Speaker 1: mouth accidentally in a drill. Oh yeah, yeah, it was accidental.

510
00:25:26,200 --> 00:25:27,240
Speaker 3: Listen, we'll go with that.

511
00:25:27,560 --> 00:25:33,520
Speaker 1: What's my what's my og advice for the day? Og

512
00:25:33,680 --> 00:25:38,159
Speaker 1: advice for the day? M hmm. Like Hero said, he

513
00:25:38,320 --> 00:25:41,040
Speaker 1: was able to take a little bit from myself, he

514
00:25:41,119 --> 00:25:42,639
Speaker 1: was able to take a little bit from Kyl, He

515
00:25:42,720 --> 00:25:44,359
Speaker 1: was able to take a little bit from Jimmy Bam,

516
00:25:44,760 --> 00:25:46,880
Speaker 1: and he was able to implement that and the things

517
00:25:46,920 --> 00:25:50,320
Speaker 1: that he do today. So if you're around greatness, make

518
00:25:50,359 --> 00:25:52,440
Speaker 1: sure you soak it up. Make sure you take something

519
00:25:52,480 --> 00:25:54,639
Speaker 1: from greatness, make sure you learn something from greatness. Make

520
00:25:54,680 --> 00:25:56,800
Speaker 1: sure you absorb something from greatness. You'll be a fool

521
00:25:56,840 --> 00:26:00,359
Speaker 1: not to. And try to surround yourself with greatness, beautiful

522
00:26:01,480 --> 00:26:03,800
Speaker 1: love that coming from it, coming from man, coming from

523
00:26:03,800 --> 00:26:04,320
Speaker 1: a young man.

524
00:26:04,640 --> 00:26:07,360
Speaker 2: And and before and before we leave, we do gotta

525
00:26:07,359 --> 00:26:09,040
Speaker 2: show a little flowers to turn the O G into

526
00:26:09,119 --> 00:26:12,840
Speaker 2: a club. Christian, Uh, run that track for me real quick?

527
00:26:12,840 --> 00:26:15,479
Speaker 3: Will you please? What we got?

528
00:26:16,119 --> 00:26:20,120
Speaker 1: Y'all got some for me? Better me? Messing? You get three,

529
00:26:20,160 --> 00:26:23,040
Speaker 1: you get three? Joke maximum already off to.

530
00:26:24,680 --> 00:26:25,960
Speaker 2: This is for this is for him, because this is

531
00:26:26,160 --> 00:26:29,119
Speaker 2: this is dope, and go ahead playing it.

532
00:26:31,119 --> 00:26:33,760
Speaker 1: Turn that up. I got here, I got my couple

533
00:26:33,760 --> 00:26:37,240
Speaker 1: of mud. Yeah, my couple of mud, A couple of

534
00:26:38,160 --> 00:26:40,200
Speaker 1: couple of mud. Already know I already know what we're

535
00:26:40,240 --> 00:26:43,359
Speaker 1: going with. Hero. All three of us got our name

536
00:26:43,400 --> 00:26:45,000
Speaker 1: in the song, Me and you and Mike. You know

537
00:26:45,040 --> 00:26:50,840
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. That's when you made it. So listen,

538
00:26:52,080 --> 00:26:54,720
Speaker 1: Drew Sky, Drew Ski is fascinated to me like he is.

539
00:26:54,880 --> 00:26:57,800
Speaker 1: Hus is what he's been able to do this That

540
00:26:58,160 --> 00:27:03,639
Speaker 1: is crazy, nothing but respect, hilarious. Cut it, cut it,

541
00:27:05,040 --> 00:27:07,840
Speaker 1: cut it so me, you and Mike all got our name.

542
00:27:07,960 --> 00:27:09,720
Speaker 1: Me and you and Mike all got our name and songs.

543
00:27:10,200 --> 00:27:11,480
Speaker 1: So you know, Mike got his name in the song.

544
00:27:11,520 --> 00:27:13,800
Speaker 1: I got my name and a couple As an athlete,

545
00:27:13,840 --> 00:27:15,840
Speaker 1: now this is the last thing. As an athlete, we

546
00:27:16,000 --> 00:27:18,120
Speaker 1: have so much success on the basketball caught twenty five

547
00:27:18,400 --> 00:27:20,960
Speaker 1: thousand people named yelling our name and arenas we on TV?

548
00:27:21,320 --> 00:27:22,679
Speaker 1: But how does it feel when you hear your name

549
00:27:22,720 --> 00:27:24,800
Speaker 1: and the rap? So that's the difference, that's a little vibe.

550
00:27:25,119 --> 00:27:25,639
Speaker 1: It's different.

551
00:27:26,280 --> 00:27:29,359
Speaker 9: Different as an like it could be a nobody rapper

552
00:27:29,400 --> 00:27:31,480
Speaker 9: as long as he says my name and the rap song,

553
00:27:31,520 --> 00:27:32,479
Speaker 9: it's just different.

554
00:27:32,800 --> 00:27:34,639
Speaker 1: I don't even need to know who it is, Like,

555
00:27:34,840 --> 00:27:37,920
Speaker 1: I just gotta one hear my name that's getting played

556
00:27:37,960 --> 00:27:40,119
Speaker 1: the next day in the you don't know who it is.

557
00:27:40,160 --> 00:27:43,040
Speaker 1: I'm like, yeah.

558
00:27:42,920 --> 00:27:43,560
Speaker 3: This hard.

559
00:27:44,160 --> 00:27:46,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm happy you were able to I'm happy you

560
00:27:47,080 --> 00:27:50,000
Speaker 1: touched on the Big Three because as we talk about sacrifice,

561
00:27:50,920 --> 00:27:54,240
Speaker 1: I remember that specific summer and so many teams were

562
00:27:54,440 --> 00:27:56,119
Speaker 1: and then I just had me and Dwayne just talk

563
00:27:56,160 --> 00:27:58,120
Speaker 1: about this the other day. You know, so many teams

564
00:27:58,200 --> 00:27:59,920
Speaker 1: were saving up and gearing up money to bring in

565
00:28:00,040 --> 00:28:03,800
Speaker 1: two superstars, two superstars, and it was public everybody. You know,

566
00:28:03,960 --> 00:28:06,080
Speaker 1: New York has the opportunity to bring in two superstars.

567
00:28:06,119 --> 00:28:08,080
Speaker 1: I think Atlanta had the opportunity to bring it. With

568
00:28:08,160 --> 00:28:09,920
Speaker 1: so many teams that had the opportunity to bring in

569
00:28:10,000 --> 00:28:13,440
Speaker 1: two superstars, and everybody was taking these trips around and

570
00:28:13,520 --> 00:28:16,560
Speaker 1: visiting these organizations and I didn't notice, but Dwayne told

571
00:28:16,600 --> 00:28:19,680
Speaker 1: me it was never out in the public. It was

572
00:28:19,720 --> 00:28:22,240
Speaker 1: never out in the open. But then it kind of

573
00:28:22,280 --> 00:28:25,200
Speaker 1: got to Dwayne and that Miami has the opportunity to

574
00:28:25,240 --> 00:28:28,480
Speaker 1: sign three stars. The great Andy ellis Burg. We have

575
00:28:28,560 --> 00:28:30,320
Speaker 1: to give him his flowers absolutely.

576
00:28:30,480 --> 00:28:33,359
Speaker 10: You know, Well in two thousand and six, you know,

577
00:28:33,600 --> 00:28:37,120
Speaker 10: the year that we won the title was the year

578
00:28:37,240 --> 00:28:41,440
Speaker 10: that Lebron and Dwayne and Chris Bosh all signed their extensions.

579
00:28:42,720 --> 00:28:46,080
Speaker 10: It's not a coincidence. They're all represented by CIA. So

580
00:28:46,200 --> 00:28:49,280
Speaker 10: they all signed, and then we took the contracts. We

581
00:28:49,360 --> 00:28:51,120
Speaker 10: took a look at the contracts with the options and

582
00:28:51,160 --> 00:28:52,960
Speaker 10: all that stuff, and we saw that each one of

583
00:28:53,000 --> 00:29:00,320
Speaker 10: them would be free agents in twenty ten. So I said, Andy, okay,

584
00:29:00,360 --> 00:29:02,560
Speaker 10: we got this three four years from now. I said,

585
00:29:03,360 --> 00:29:05,280
Speaker 10: unless we trade for one of them, I think one

586
00:29:05,360 --> 00:29:08,840
Speaker 10: day we might have an opportunity to have to sit

587
00:29:08,920 --> 00:29:11,280
Speaker 10: at a table with Lebron, with Chris and Dwayne, or

588
00:29:11,320 --> 00:29:14,200
Speaker 10: all three of them. And so from that day on,

589
00:29:14,960 --> 00:29:18,400
Speaker 10: Andy went to work making sure that we would have

590
00:29:18,560 --> 00:29:23,680
Speaker 10: the cap space in you know, twenty ten to sign

591
00:29:23,720 --> 00:29:25,640
Speaker 10: all three of them. And a lot of people said, well,

592
00:29:26,080 --> 00:29:27,400
Speaker 10: the Heat can't sign three of them.

593
00:29:28,400 --> 00:29:28,720
Speaker 3: The Heat.

594
00:29:28,840 --> 00:29:30,960
Speaker 10: The people forgot that one of them was ours that

595
00:29:31,080 --> 00:29:33,320
Speaker 10: we had, you know, they had bird rights on Dwayne,

596
00:29:33,520 --> 00:29:36,960
Speaker 10: you know, so we could sign him last. And so

597
00:29:37,320 --> 00:29:39,320
Speaker 10: a lot of people didn't think that we were ever

598
00:29:39,440 --> 00:29:41,040
Speaker 10: going to be able to get all three of them.

599
00:29:41,840 --> 00:29:45,920
Speaker 10: And I was confident because look at Lebron was banging

600
00:29:46,000 --> 00:29:48,120
Speaker 10: his head against the wall for seven years in Cleveland

601
00:29:49,080 --> 00:29:51,080
Speaker 10: and getting to the finals, doing everything he could do.

602
00:29:51,680 --> 00:29:53,960
Speaker 10: They just couldn't beat certain teams. You know, at the time,

603
00:29:54,320 --> 00:29:57,320
Speaker 10: Chris was doing the same thing for seven years, beating

604
00:29:57,360 --> 00:30:00,160
Speaker 10: his head against the wall Toronto and playing great.

605
00:30:00,320 --> 00:30:00,840
Speaker 3: Trying to win.

606
00:30:01,800 --> 00:30:02,760
Speaker 2: Dwayne had won one.

607
00:30:03,600 --> 00:30:07,480
Speaker 10: And so this was an opportunity for these players in

608
00:30:07,560 --> 00:30:12,440
Speaker 10: their prime twenty five, twenty seven, twenty seven to come

609
00:30:12,520 --> 00:30:15,760
Speaker 10: together and then to have you and get Mike. You know,

610
00:30:15,880 --> 00:30:19,160
Speaker 10: that first year. I still think we should have won

611
00:30:19,200 --> 00:30:21,800
Speaker 10: the first year. But anyhow, you know, I mean, you

612
00:30:21,880 --> 00:30:23,840
Speaker 10: go back and you look at it, but but Andy

613
00:30:24,680 --> 00:30:29,560
Speaker 10: has been a person who not only knows talent, but

614
00:30:29,720 --> 00:30:35,200
Speaker 10: he you know basketball operations, the operations, you know, manual

615
00:30:35,280 --> 00:30:38,920
Speaker 10: and how you run your organization cap you know what's

616
00:30:38,960 --> 00:30:44,440
Speaker 10: going on today. You need somebody a scientific mathematician to

617
00:30:44,960 --> 00:30:47,920
Speaker 10: understand the cap today. But Mandy is great. You know,

618
00:30:48,080 --> 00:30:52,240
Speaker 10: Andy's great, and he's really been so important to me.

619
00:30:52,360 --> 00:30:57,200
Speaker 10: But that was just getting that, getting those three and

620
00:30:57,360 --> 00:30:58,440
Speaker 10: to have that summer.

621
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Speaker 3: I never forget that. That's when the term came out.

622
00:31:01,960 --> 00:31:04,560
Speaker 10: You know, a guy by the name of Stephen Covey

623
00:31:04,600 --> 00:31:08,160
Speaker 10: wrote a book called First Things First, and so you know,

624
00:31:08,520 --> 00:31:11,440
Speaker 10: and out of that book, the very first line in

625
00:31:11,560 --> 00:31:14,880
Speaker 10: that book was the main thing is to make sure

626
00:31:14,920 --> 00:31:18,440
Speaker 10: the main thing remains the main thing. And so when

627
00:31:18,480 --> 00:31:22,840
Speaker 10: I pitched that to Lebron and Leon Rose and Maverick

628
00:31:22,920 --> 00:31:25,480
Speaker 10: Carter and Randy Mims, we're all in the room together

629
00:31:25,600 --> 00:31:28,320
Speaker 10: trying to we're trying to recruit him. That was our pitch.

630
00:31:29,320 --> 00:31:36,360
Speaker 10: And when I said that, Maverick looked at at Lebron

631
00:31:36,440 --> 00:31:39,080
Speaker 10: and whispered to him, like, I know that book it's

632
00:31:39,160 --> 00:31:42,480
Speaker 10: called First Things First. I think Maverick had had already

633
00:31:42,520 --> 00:31:45,800
Speaker 10: read the book himself. But it was a great day

634
00:31:45,960 --> 00:31:47,880
Speaker 10: for us. I mean, it's like, you know, when we

635
00:31:48,000 --> 00:31:52,600
Speaker 10: got Zo okay, and then we got you know, we

636
00:31:52,720 --> 00:31:56,200
Speaker 10: got PJ and Dan Marley and Tim Hardawy. We had

637
00:31:56,280 --> 00:32:00,600
Speaker 10: that group with Keith Askins. You know that you're it's right,

638
00:32:00,880 --> 00:32:02,280
Speaker 10: you know, that was the hell of a team. And

639
00:32:02,320 --> 00:32:05,400
Speaker 10: then we got you know, we built that young team.

640
00:32:05,520 --> 00:32:07,920
Speaker 3: And then we got Shack and they get the Big three.

641
00:32:08,800 --> 00:32:11,520
Speaker 3: We had a really good run, you know, absolute run.

642
00:32:11,720 --> 00:32:14,120
Speaker 1: How was it kept so quiet because everybody was all

643
00:32:14,160 --> 00:32:16,840
Speaker 1: over here again and nobody was speaking about Miami having

644
00:32:16,840 --> 00:32:17,640
Speaker 1: a three?

645
00:32:18,120 --> 00:32:20,080
Speaker 10: How did you how we knew it? You guys, we

646
00:32:20,200 --> 00:32:22,480
Speaker 10: knew it everybody, and Dwayne knew it. I said, Dwayne,

647
00:32:22,480 --> 00:32:24,600
Speaker 10: you're the lynchpin here. I said, don't you think about

648
00:32:24,680 --> 00:32:25,600
Speaker 10: going back to Chicago?

649
00:32:26,920 --> 00:32:27,040
Speaker 2: You know?

650
00:32:27,120 --> 00:32:28,680
Speaker 10: He said, it's not about we're going to give you.

651
00:32:28,920 --> 00:32:31,880
Speaker 10: We had we had forty eight million or whatever it was.

652
00:32:32,440 --> 00:32:36,080
Speaker 10: Everybody was going to get sixteen point six. That's what

653
00:32:36,280 --> 00:32:40,920
Speaker 10: the max was. Today they get fifty, but that was

654
00:32:40,920 --> 00:32:43,080
Speaker 10: a lot back then, sixteen point six. So we had

655
00:32:43,240 --> 00:32:47,080
Speaker 10: enough room for three guys and Mike and we had

656
00:32:47,160 --> 00:32:50,720
Speaker 10: to trade, uh, Michael Beasley and I love Mike. I

657
00:32:50,800 --> 00:32:54,920
Speaker 10: think Mike with you group of guys, you said you

658
00:32:54,920 --> 00:32:56,800
Speaker 10: would have you would have brought him along in a

659
00:32:56,840 --> 00:32:59,200
Speaker 10: great way. He might have led the team scoring I know,

660
00:32:59,560 --> 00:33:03,680
Speaker 10: a bucket, you know, yeah, like it. But we had

661
00:33:03,840 --> 00:33:06,600
Speaker 10: we had five guys, uh, that we could start that

662
00:33:06,720 --> 00:33:09,400
Speaker 10: team with, and then we started adding a bunch of

663
00:33:09,440 --> 00:33:11,840
Speaker 10: minimums and stuff like that. But it wasn't until we

664
00:33:11,960 --> 00:33:14,440
Speaker 10: got Shane and then Ray and Chris Anderson and.

665
00:33:15,120 --> 00:33:16,640
Speaker 3: Yes, Bird the bird Man.

666
00:33:17,080 --> 00:33:19,800
Speaker 1: Can you talk about how good Chris Bosh was because

667
00:33:19,920 --> 00:33:23,160
Speaker 1: I'm I'm we're huge on this podcast about just giving

668
00:33:23,240 --> 00:33:25,360
Speaker 1: Chris's flowers, you know what I'm saying, Because don't think

669
00:33:25,360 --> 00:33:29,120
Speaker 1: people understand and I think that the generation behind BAM

670
00:33:29,440 --> 00:33:31,640
Speaker 1: they get on my damn nerves. I hate because they

671
00:33:31,680 --> 00:33:33,800
Speaker 1: made a comment the other day that Chris Bosh is

672
00:33:33,840 --> 00:33:37,240
Speaker 1: closer to Nick Claxton then he is. To excuse me,

673
00:33:37,320 --> 00:33:40,080
Speaker 1: what's the guy in l A. I'm having a brain freeze,

674
00:33:41,800 --> 00:33:45,360
Speaker 1: Anthony Day. The generation said that Chris Bosh is closer

675
00:33:45,440 --> 00:33:48,760
Speaker 1: to Nick Claxton. No disrespect Nick Claxton. I love your

676
00:33:48,800 --> 00:33:51,000
Speaker 1: work ethic, I love I love what you do for

677
00:33:51,080 --> 00:33:53,280
Speaker 1: your team. But they said Chris Bosh is closer to

678
00:33:53,400 --> 00:33:55,920
Speaker 1: Nick Claxton then he is to Anthony Davis, and it

679
00:33:56,160 --> 00:34:00,720
Speaker 1: pissed me off. I don't think this generation understands how

680
00:34:01,160 --> 00:34:04,760
Speaker 1: really good of a basket ball player Chris bin was.

681
00:34:04,880 --> 00:34:08,200
Speaker 10: You know, he's uh, He's one of a kind. He's

682
00:34:08,360 --> 00:34:12,200
Speaker 10: unique as a seven footer. You know, I remember scouting

683
00:34:12,280 --> 00:34:16,600
Speaker 10: him at Georgia Tech and and you know, knew the

684
00:34:16,680 --> 00:34:18,920
Speaker 10: coach down there and everything. But you know when he

685
00:34:19,040 --> 00:34:23,839
Speaker 10: went to uh uh to Toronto. If you think about him,

686
00:34:24,120 --> 00:34:28,160
Speaker 10: uh was really one of the first proto type you know,

687
00:34:28,360 --> 00:34:34,719
Speaker 10: stretch bigs and could also score inside h incredibly high

688
00:34:34,800 --> 00:34:39,439
Speaker 10: Q guy, I Q guy and and just a great,

689
00:34:39,520 --> 00:34:42,759
Speaker 10: great player. So when when you put a guy in

690
00:34:43,040 --> 00:34:45,600
Speaker 10: that kind of category and then he comes to Miami

691
00:34:45,719 --> 00:34:49,160
Speaker 10: with Lebron and Dwayne and he was the guy the

692
00:34:49,239 --> 00:34:50,640
Speaker 10: three of them really had some issues.

693
00:34:51,120 --> 00:34:52,680
Speaker 3: They had to deal with those issues, you know.

694
00:34:52,760 --> 00:34:55,160
Speaker 10: And I talked to him, you know, after that first year,

695
00:34:55,200 --> 00:34:56,960
Speaker 10: and I said, you guys got to work this stuff out.

696
00:34:57,480 --> 00:34:59,200
Speaker 10: You know, you can't just have a coach say, Okay,

697
00:34:59,360 --> 00:35:00,480
Speaker 10: you're going to do this, You're going to do this,

698
00:35:00,560 --> 00:35:01,879
Speaker 10: and you do that and go do it my way.

699
00:35:01,880 --> 00:35:02,520
Speaker 2: I said, you're going to.

700
00:35:02,520 --> 00:35:04,920
Speaker 10: Work this out, and there has to be some, as

701
00:35:04,960 --> 00:35:08,200
Speaker 10: I said, voluntary cooperation on your part that you're all

702
00:35:08,280 --> 00:35:09,120
Speaker 10: going to accept the role.

703
00:35:09,239 --> 00:35:12,799
Speaker 3: So it was Bron, it was Dwayne, and it was Chris,

704
00:35:13,480 --> 00:35:13,640
Speaker 3: you know.

705
00:35:13,840 --> 00:35:18,360
Speaker 10: And so that's basically how the hierarchy of greatness was

706
00:35:18,880 --> 00:35:21,880
Speaker 10: and the players accepted that and they were all great players.

707
00:35:22,719 --> 00:35:25,520
Speaker 10: And that was the most important movement for that team

708
00:35:25,600 --> 00:35:28,640
Speaker 10: for those guys that you know, I can remember, you know,

709
00:35:28,880 --> 00:35:32,520
Speaker 10: that Boston game. Come on that Boston game when when

710
00:35:32,600 --> 00:35:35,040
Speaker 10: I think, I think it was Paul Pirece Drillwin in

711
00:35:35,160 --> 00:35:38,719
Speaker 10: Lebron's face took us back to the seventh game. Yeah,

712
00:35:39,280 --> 00:35:43,200
Speaker 10: Lebron went for forty forty five or seventeen or something,

713
00:35:43,320 --> 00:35:46,239
Speaker 10: you know. I mean, these guys had incredible games, and

714
00:35:46,320 --> 00:35:49,720
Speaker 10: so Chris, you know, with the big rebounder Ray Allen

715
00:35:49,840 --> 00:35:51,880
Speaker 10: and the big block for Danny Green, you know, and

716
00:35:52,040 --> 00:35:54,640
Speaker 10: Mike going on a run of threes and Shane going

717
00:35:54,680 --> 00:35:56,960
Speaker 10: on a run of threes and Dwayne being who Dwayne

718
00:35:57,120 --> 00:36:00,440
Speaker 10: is the most fun part of that team for me.

719
00:36:01,600 --> 00:36:03,719
Speaker 10: I loved it because I wasn't coaching at the time.

720
00:36:03,760 --> 00:36:05,879
Speaker 10: But the most fun part of it was was when

721
00:36:05,920 --> 00:36:09,520
Speaker 10: we got out on the break and Dwayne was on

722
00:36:09,680 --> 00:36:12,440
Speaker 10: one wing Lebron no, and then Dwayne would be throwing

723
00:36:13,320 --> 00:36:16,200
Speaker 10: these lives and then Dwayne would go out of bounds

724
00:36:16,320 --> 00:36:18,719
Speaker 10: like this and Lebron would be dunking it, you know.

725
00:36:18,840 --> 00:36:21,320
Speaker 10: So it reminded me of Showtime in a lot of

726
00:36:21,360 --> 00:36:24,280
Speaker 10: ways with those three players. When Chris, Chris was without

727
00:36:24,320 --> 00:36:29,600
Speaker 10: a doubt if those two players were the real keys,

728
00:36:30,560 --> 00:36:34,320
Speaker 10: Chris was the one that was the straw that stirred

729
00:36:34,360 --> 00:36:36,400
Speaker 10: the drink because he sacrificed the most.

730
00:36:37,000 --> 00:36:39,759
Speaker 3: Yeah, it really was, man, I don't know. I did

731
00:36:39,800 --> 00:36:42,160
Speaker 3: a Redeem I was I did a Redeem Team documentary.

732
00:36:42,640 --> 00:36:45,160
Speaker 4: I was a part of the production crew of that,

733
00:36:45,960 --> 00:36:47,840
Speaker 4: and we got to tell a lot of stories, and

734
00:36:48,040 --> 00:36:50,640
Speaker 4: the favorite would always be Kobe. It'd always be about

735
00:36:50,680 --> 00:36:53,759
Speaker 4: Cold Brow and it's really it's just really you hear

736
00:36:53,840 --> 00:36:57,520
Speaker 4: about someone's work, you hear about that that what was

737
00:36:57,640 --> 00:36:59,600
Speaker 4: he called himself? I forget what he called usself. You

738
00:36:59,600 --> 00:37:01,239
Speaker 4: hear about that beast, right, you hear about that and

739
00:37:01,320 --> 00:37:02,360
Speaker 4: the beast that mamba.

740
00:37:02,480 --> 00:37:04,120
Speaker 3: But you don't really know because you he in La

741
00:37:04,200 --> 00:37:06,360
Speaker 3: and you don't get to see it. I got to

742
00:37:06,360 --> 00:37:06,600
Speaker 3: see it.

743
00:37:07,280 --> 00:37:08,640
Speaker 4: We got to see it, and I was like, oh,

744
00:37:08,760 --> 00:37:11,680
Speaker 4: he different, right, Like I saw somebody who was different

745
00:37:11,719 --> 00:37:14,120
Speaker 4: like we had. I saw things in him that I

746
00:37:14,280 --> 00:37:16,440
Speaker 4: was like, I have those things. But I also saw

747
00:37:16,480 --> 00:37:18,360
Speaker 4: a difference and I was like, this is why he

748
00:37:18,480 --> 00:37:19,200
Speaker 4: is great as he is.

749
00:37:19,680 --> 00:37:22,120
Speaker 1: And so my favorite after he broke his nose, this

750
00:37:22,360 --> 00:37:26,719
Speaker 1: was I'm just asking. I'm trying to think he broke

751
00:37:26,760 --> 00:37:29,239
Speaker 1: his nose in All Star Game, which nobody I think breaks.

752
00:37:29,280 --> 00:37:31,040
Speaker 1: Nobody knows in All Star Game. I'm just saying, I.

753
00:37:31,080 --> 00:37:33,040
Speaker 4: Think this was before I think we were cool. We

754
00:37:33,160 --> 00:37:35,239
Speaker 4: were because me and Cold got real cool, and it

755
00:37:35,360 --> 00:37:37,040
Speaker 4: was really from that competitiveness. We got cool in the

756
00:37:37,080 --> 00:37:39,279
Speaker 4: Olympics because what like I said, I will see him

757
00:37:39,320 --> 00:37:41,279
Speaker 4: in the morning. We talked about on the Redeem team,

758
00:37:41,320 --> 00:37:43,040
Speaker 4: Cold will work out and get up early and do

759
00:37:43,080 --> 00:37:45,280
Speaker 4: all these things. And I was on the same regimen

760
00:37:45,320 --> 00:37:47,200
Speaker 4: because I was coming back from my injury and Tim

761
00:37:47,239 --> 00:37:49,400
Speaker 4: Grover wasn't playing those games, and so I was. I

762
00:37:49,520 --> 00:37:51,720
Speaker 4: was in the gym a lot with Cold in the mornings,

763
00:37:51,760 --> 00:37:55,279
Speaker 4: and I got a chance to like experience that guy

764
00:37:55,920 --> 00:37:58,040
Speaker 4: like I went around him. Jay, I've been around Brian,

765
00:37:58,080 --> 00:37:59,880
Speaker 4: I've been around Cold, and I got a chance to

766
00:38:00,000 --> 00:38:02,640
Speaker 4: experience these two different beasts in a whole different way.

767
00:38:02,680 --> 00:38:05,440
Speaker 4: And I, man, I appreciate it. I appreciate him so much.

768
00:38:05,480 --> 00:38:07,400
Speaker 4: So he was my favorite in the Olympics. Man, I

769
00:38:07,480 --> 00:38:09,080
Speaker 4: was like a magnet anytime I got a chance to

770
00:38:09,120 --> 00:38:11,600
Speaker 4: be around Cold because I'm just soaking it up. And

771
00:38:11,719 --> 00:38:13,799
Speaker 4: he's one of my favorite players, you know what I'm saying.

772
00:38:13,840 --> 00:38:16,359
Speaker 4: So my favorite Olymics store will always be anything dealing

773
00:38:16,400 --> 00:38:17,920
Speaker 4: with Kobe Bryant.

774
00:38:17,960 --> 00:38:18,120
Speaker 9: Man.

775
00:38:18,400 --> 00:38:21,000
Speaker 1: So just so for the people at home, the way

776
00:38:21,000 --> 00:38:22,640
Speaker 1: he say he might almost want to fight, and he

777
00:38:22,640 --> 00:38:24,360
Speaker 1: ain't really want to fight, but he will you up.

778
00:38:25,040 --> 00:38:25,960
Speaker 3: I will I care.

779
00:38:26,200 --> 00:38:30,279
Speaker 4: He don't give a you out, cod ain't hit it

780
00:38:30,640 --> 00:38:33,200
Speaker 4: to see how cold was me up in the All

781
00:38:33,239 --> 00:38:35,520
Speaker 4: Star Game. People don't understand that. We don't ever talk

782
00:38:35,560 --> 00:38:38,360
Speaker 4: about that side of it. Cod was doing stuff to me, and.

783
00:38:38,360 --> 00:38:42,440
Speaker 3: I talked him like cold, bro, stop what you're doing now.

784
00:38:42,440 --> 00:38:44,279
Speaker 4: I didn't try to like I told him, you don't

785
00:38:44,280 --> 00:38:45,759
Speaker 4: try to break Nobody knows, but I did try to

786
00:38:45,800 --> 00:38:47,920
Speaker 4: file him. I definitely try to file him in All

787
00:38:47,920 --> 00:38:50,160
Speaker 4: Star Game. I was like, I let him go and

788
00:38:50,239 --> 00:38:53,080
Speaker 4: then I hit him and he got me though. He

789
00:38:53,160 --> 00:38:54,239
Speaker 4: got me back that next game.

790
00:38:55,480 --> 00:38:58,600
Speaker 3: When I knew he was gonna get me back, that's

791
00:38:58,640 --> 00:39:00,800
Speaker 3: the thing I wouldn't. It wasn't no shot because I

792
00:39:00,880 --> 00:39:02,080
Speaker 3: heard this tone when I called him.

793
00:39:02,800 --> 00:39:03,560
Speaker 2: He was too calm.

794
00:39:04,080 --> 00:39:07,879
Speaker 3: I was like, yeah, yeah, this ain't good. This ain't good.

795
00:39:08,640 --> 00:39:10,719
Speaker 3: And we had an early game in LA. This ain't good.

796
00:39:10,760 --> 00:39:14,720
Speaker 3: I can't play early games in LA. Twelve o'clock.

797
00:39:15,200 --> 00:39:15,760
Speaker 2: Twelve o'clock.

798
00:39:17,600 --> 00:39:19,480
Speaker 4: I look down there at the end, I'm still trying

799
00:39:19,480 --> 00:39:21,120
Speaker 4: to get lose. He got that mask on on the

800
00:39:21,200 --> 00:39:21,719
Speaker 4: full sweat.

801
00:39:21,760 --> 00:39:24,399
Speaker 3: I said, he about the Shane. You ain't guarding him tonight.

802
00:39:25,560 --> 00:39:27,320
Speaker 3: Matter of fact, let me tell you a quick story.

803
00:39:27,719 --> 00:39:28,600
Speaker 3: What did to me?

804
00:39:28,920 --> 00:39:30,839
Speaker 4: So we go to play the Lakers. This is right

805
00:39:30,880 --> 00:39:32,840
Speaker 4: after that and it's an early game. We're doing to

806
00:39:32,880 --> 00:39:35,880
Speaker 4: walk through in the ballroom and was like, Shane, I

807
00:39:36,000 --> 00:39:37,200
Speaker 4: want you to start on Kobe.

808
00:39:37,719 --> 00:39:39,160
Speaker 3: So I'm like cool.

809
00:39:39,520 --> 00:39:41,080
Speaker 4: I get to kind of warm up into the game

810
00:39:41,160 --> 00:39:42,360
Speaker 4: and then I get on him. But I got to

811
00:39:42,360 --> 00:39:43,080
Speaker 4: get into the game.

812
00:39:43,560 --> 00:39:45,680
Speaker 3: We get there late. The bus get there late because

813
00:39:45,680 --> 00:39:47,640
Speaker 3: we're in traffic battling all the way from Beverly Hills.

814
00:39:48,239 --> 00:39:50,440
Speaker 4: And we get out there. Spoe come out of thirty five.

815
00:39:50,520 --> 00:39:51,800
Speaker 4: I'm belly guy. I ain't got a chance to go

816
00:39:51,800 --> 00:39:53,759
Speaker 4: out there and do no warm ups. Spoke come in

817
00:39:53,840 --> 00:39:57,440
Speaker 4: and say, nah, they thought about it, were going right

818
00:39:57,480 --> 00:39:58,480
Speaker 4: at him. Do you guard him?

819
00:39:58,480 --> 00:40:01,840
Speaker 3: I say, ah, I'm not prepared.

820
00:40:03,280 --> 00:40:03,959
Speaker 1: I wasn't ready.

821
00:40:04,120 --> 00:40:07,200
Speaker 4: That's a mental thing, really, that's behind the scenes combo nobody.

822
00:40:07,239 --> 00:40:09,040
Speaker 4: I wasn't ready and I knew he was what he

823
00:40:09,120 --> 00:40:10,640
Speaker 4: was coming with, but I was trying to work myself

824
00:40:10,719 --> 00:40:11,160
Speaker 4: into the game.

825
00:40:11,280 --> 00:40:15,480
Speaker 3: Kobe was ready and so yeah, I will foul you.

826
00:40:15,520 --> 00:40:19,600
Speaker 1: Though, Yeah I will, yeah, I will you up give

827
00:40:19,600 --> 00:40:20,200
Speaker 1: me this one.

828
00:40:20,120 --> 00:40:22,840
Speaker 3: Not dirty way, just no, you hit me, I'm hit

829
00:40:22,840 --> 00:40:23,160
Speaker 3: you back.

830
00:40:24,000 --> 00:40:29,800
Speaker 2: Who's your NBA Mount Rushmore from Arnold DC My my

831
00:40:30,200 --> 00:40:30,640
Speaker 2: n b a.

832
00:40:31,400 --> 00:40:35,319
Speaker 3: Mount Rushmore is this is this just my favorite players.

833
00:40:35,080 --> 00:40:37,920
Speaker 2: Or you know, just go ahead the first of all

834
00:40:37,960 --> 00:40:40,080
Speaker 2: and you do, you will say it on here. What

835
00:40:40,239 --> 00:40:42,200
Speaker 2: you say on this, it's what you like.

836
00:40:42,520 --> 00:40:43,359
Speaker 1: Yeah, don't be calling.

837
00:40:43,600 --> 00:40:44,919
Speaker 2: And it's not anybody else.

838
00:40:45,040 --> 00:40:47,759
Speaker 1: Why d Wade ain't add this because it ain't your

839
00:40:48,120 --> 00:40:49,279
Speaker 1: this's his, that's why.

840
00:40:49,400 --> 00:40:51,640
Speaker 4: Well, yeah, man, I got to pick four people, so

841
00:40:52,280 --> 00:40:55,160
Speaker 4: this matters pretty easy. It's gonna be Michael Jordan's no,

842
00:40:55,400 --> 00:40:58,239
Speaker 4: no no orders because orders can lead orders out.

843
00:40:58,719 --> 00:41:02,239
Speaker 3: Michael Jordan, Kobe Bryant, Lebron, James, Kilo new m hmm.

844
00:41:02,480 --> 00:41:05,360
Speaker 1: It was Michael and Kobe Brown, Lebron, James and.

845
00:41:05,520 --> 00:41:07,440
Speaker 4: And Shot keep talking to I'm gonna put stuff in

846
00:41:07,480 --> 00:41:16,280
Speaker 4: there and take him out, but I want a championship. Hey,

847
00:41:16,440 --> 00:41:19,360
Speaker 4: g fourteen classification baby stuff on your no.

848
00:41:19,600 --> 00:41:22,200
Speaker 1: But Shack still old us Bentley's Yeah, but we got

849
00:41:22,280 --> 00:41:23,360
Speaker 1: that chip. Though we did get that.

850
00:41:23,400 --> 00:41:25,040
Speaker 3: We got a big fellow, did us right? He to

851
00:41:25,160 --> 00:41:26,520
Speaker 3: old us the buildings, but Ers.

852
00:41:26,480 --> 00:41:27,759
Speaker 1: Told us if we win the chip, he was gona

853
00:41:27,760 --> 00:41:28,239
Speaker 1: buy his Bentley.

854
00:41:28,280 --> 00:41:28,719
Speaker 3: But we bought on.

855
00:41:29,080 --> 00:41:31,320
Speaker 1: We damn sure did we want about on. We appreciation

856
00:41:31,400 --> 00:41:31,799
Speaker 1: big fellow.

857
00:41:31,920 --> 00:41:33,839
Speaker 3: Those off the court, endorsements, so we can go get

858
00:41:33,840 --> 00:41:34,520
Speaker 3: that much right.

859
00:41:35,160 --> 00:41:37,439
Speaker 2: What was your locker room vibe back in twenty eleven

860
00:41:37,520 --> 00:41:38,319
Speaker 2: we lost some masks?

861
00:41:39,160 --> 00:41:42,520
Speaker 3: What was there? Head like, I can that one. It

862
00:41:42,640 --> 00:41:45,759
Speaker 3: was miserable. What was the locker room vibe right after

863
00:41:45,800 --> 00:41:47,040
Speaker 3: we Yeah, it was miserable.

864
00:41:48,440 --> 00:41:52,719
Speaker 1: It was awful. That was going into surgery. That was

865
00:41:54,239 --> 00:41:54,560
Speaker 1: next day.

866
00:41:54,640 --> 00:41:55,799
Speaker 2: I had served the next day too.

867
00:41:55,880 --> 00:41:58,279
Speaker 1: I was, I was heading into the hospital patched up.

868
00:41:59,040 --> 00:41:59,719
Speaker 3: Yeah, I was sad.

869
00:42:00,120 --> 00:42:01,000
Speaker 2: Oh it was.

870
00:42:01,160 --> 00:42:01,720
Speaker 3: It was brutal.

871
00:42:01,840 --> 00:42:06,799
Speaker 4: It was bad, y'all know, man, losing especially the team

872
00:42:06,880 --> 00:42:09,800
Speaker 4: we were and man, we were a show and we

873
00:42:09,840 --> 00:42:11,919
Speaker 4: didn't expect to lose, like no one expected us to lose,

874
00:42:12,080 --> 00:42:13,319
Speaker 4: and we were in control of it too.

875
00:42:13,520 --> 00:42:16,480
Speaker 2: We talked about this game two in seventeen, but like

876
00:42:16,560 --> 00:42:19,960
Speaker 2: seven point, I ain't gonna watch it and I and

877
00:42:20,040 --> 00:42:21,960
Speaker 2: I never want to be in think negatively. When I

878
00:42:22,000 --> 00:42:23,640
Speaker 2: got the call my dad on the way home, I said,

879
00:42:23,680 --> 00:42:24,560
Speaker 2: we just lost the finals.

880
00:42:24,640 --> 00:42:27,160
Speaker 1: Let me say something that we went at and changed. Yeah,

881
00:42:27,160 --> 00:42:27,920
Speaker 1: it's a different series.

882
00:42:28,239 --> 00:42:30,960
Speaker 2: Come on, man, we go rumdumble them Game three. Bro.

883
00:42:31,040 --> 00:42:32,839
Speaker 4: I watched that game recently. I don't even hold y'all.

884
00:42:33,360 --> 00:42:34,600
Speaker 4: I was like, how do we lose this. Did we

885
00:42:34,719 --> 00:42:37,960
Speaker 4: lose that game? Different series? Man, Yeah, that was I

886
00:42:38,080 --> 00:42:40,399
Speaker 4: was just driving around. I was just driving around all

887
00:42:40,480 --> 00:42:44,520
Speaker 4: night with no GPS. I had no GPS. I was

888
00:42:44,560 --> 00:42:47,719
Speaker 4: in my Ferrari. It ain't got no GPS, and I

889
00:42:47,760 --> 00:42:48,920
Speaker 4: didn't know how to get back home.

890
00:42:49,440 --> 00:42:50,520
Speaker 1: I was still drinking hennessy.

891
00:42:50,560 --> 00:42:52,439
Speaker 3: Then I was lost.

892
00:42:52,560 --> 00:42:55,719
Speaker 1: I was still drinking. I was I was lost in

893
00:42:55,840 --> 00:42:58,560
Speaker 1: my black and manes in the black.

894
00:42:58,840 --> 00:43:00,520
Speaker 3: That's how I spent losing in the finals.

895
00:43:01,239 --> 00:43:03,400
Speaker 1: I listen, I see one of the questions was one

896
00:43:03,440 --> 00:43:05,640
Speaker 1: of my favorite Miami heat stories. And I'm gonna tell

897
00:43:05,640 --> 00:43:07,960
Speaker 1: you what. One of my favorite stories is that time

898
00:43:08,000 --> 00:43:10,960
Speaker 1: when Rose and Big Fella got into it and everybody

899
00:43:11,040 --> 00:43:14,360
Speaker 1: tried to break it up except for you. This everybody

900
00:43:14,400 --> 00:43:15,879
Speaker 1: over there trying to break it up with d Wade

901
00:43:15,920 --> 00:43:17,000
Speaker 1: on the other side, you can free throw.

902
00:43:17,080 --> 00:43:17,799
Speaker 3: I'm not getting in there.

903
00:43:18,360 --> 00:43:22,239
Speaker 4: I said, why they're not fighting? First of all, they

904
00:43:22,320 --> 00:43:24,640
Speaker 4: won't fighting. I went I didn't think they was fighting.

905
00:43:24,680 --> 00:43:26,840
Speaker 4: Plus shock, man, did you see that? I saw you

906
00:43:26,960 --> 00:43:28,880
Speaker 4: trying to get in there. I saw a big fellow dragon,

907
00:43:29,040 --> 00:43:29,840
Speaker 4: three people.

908
00:43:29,640 --> 00:43:31,120
Speaker 3: Around the gym the way.

909
00:43:31,280 --> 00:43:32,560
Speaker 6: I was like, Nah, I.

910
00:43:35,040 --> 00:43:35,560
Speaker 3: Got this game.

911
00:43:35,600 --> 00:43:38,960
Speaker 1: I gotta hit these Bro, everybody down there trying to

912
00:43:38,960 --> 00:43:41,040
Speaker 1: break it up. He the only one down there by itself.

913
00:43:42,760 --> 00:43:44,600
Speaker 1: They got going on there, y'all have it.

914
00:43:44,760 --> 00:43:47,120
Speaker 3: Was Mayham going on in that gym at that moment.

915
00:43:47,200 --> 00:43:50,799
Speaker 3: It was crazy right before and he just knocked over

916
00:43:50,840 --> 00:43:52,840
Speaker 3: the will knocked.

917
00:43:52,680 --> 00:43:56,560
Speaker 1: Over all the boat on the floor. Shack get the

918
00:43:56,920 --> 00:43:57,640
Speaker 1: don't ever come.

919
00:43:57,600 --> 00:43:58,120
Speaker 6: Back, bro.

920
00:43:58,280 --> 00:44:01,480
Speaker 4: That was crazy though, But I was just like, well,

921
00:44:01,760 --> 00:44:03,200
Speaker 4: they don't think they're gonna fight. I don't think Sho

922
00:44:03,360 --> 00:44:06,360
Speaker 4: was gonna hit Pat, so I wasn't really concerned. But

923
00:44:06,480 --> 00:44:09,120
Speaker 4: if you would have, we're gonna were always gonna got

924
00:44:09,160 --> 00:44:10,440
Speaker 4: to pick up, get him out of there, and get

925
00:44:10,520 --> 00:44:12,240
Speaker 4: him to the hospital as soon as possible.

926
00:44:12,360 --> 00:44:13,000
Speaker 3: He was gonna kill.

927
00:44:13,040 --> 00:44:14,560
Speaker 1: That was this close.

928
00:44:15,400 --> 00:44:17,160
Speaker 4: I love Path for standing up to him, but boy,

929
00:44:17,840 --> 00:44:20,520
Speaker 4: shock would have got for five seconds and swung.

930
00:44:20,719 --> 00:44:22,040
Speaker 3: We would have to rush into the hospital.

931
00:44:22,920 --> 00:44:25,279
Speaker 1: Have been would have been worse than would have been

932
00:44:25,280 --> 00:44:27,200
Speaker 1: worse than j J in the locker room.

933
00:44:31,480 --> 00:44:35,440
Speaker 3: You've been massive while you've been I saw was on.

934
00:44:36,960 --> 00:44:37,640
Speaker 3: You've been messy.

935
00:44:37,680 --> 00:44:40,680
Speaker 1: Why you never reveal young fella? Your fellow text me

936
00:44:40,719 --> 00:44:41,719
Speaker 1: that to day he let the.

937
00:44:41,719 --> 00:44:43,680
Speaker 2: Part I heard he got tossed around.

938
00:44:43,840 --> 00:44:47,080
Speaker 3: You tell me who it was yeah, man, Bank Bank.

939
00:44:50,280 --> 00:44:51,799
Speaker 3: I was like, well, this is this is over y'all.

940
00:44:51,840 --> 00:44:53,040
Speaker 2: Good hug.

941
00:44:53,400 --> 00:44:54,120
Speaker 1: He told himself.

942
00:44:55,200 --> 00:44:58,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, I ain't never seen it. I was like, as

943
00:44:58,680 --> 00:45:00,319
Speaker 3: a leader, I was like, hey, huh.

944
00:45:00,760 --> 00:45:04,040
Speaker 1: When I got downstairs, say, man, they say about j J.

945
00:45:04,160 --> 00:45:04,640
Speaker 1: That's real.

946
00:45:08,520 --> 00:45:09,080
Speaker 2: I'm a leader.

947
00:45:10,000 --> 00:45:12,399
Speaker 1: No, no, they say, oh, that is real.

948
00:45:12,520 --> 00:45:12,719
Speaker 2: Listen.

949
00:45:12,920 --> 00:45:16,279
Speaker 4: In the space of leadership, sometimes you gotta lead by hey,

950
00:45:16,760 --> 00:45:17,520
Speaker 4: cut that out.

951
00:45:17,880 --> 00:45:20,880
Speaker 3: Sometimes you gotta lead by hey, y'all gotta deal with this.

952
00:45:21,640 --> 00:45:23,239
Speaker 4: That was my moment where I had to lead by hey,

953
00:45:23,320 --> 00:45:24,840
Speaker 4: y'all got to deal with this because I heard some

954
00:45:25,239 --> 00:45:27,680
Speaker 4: words flash that meant that we don't like to hear.

955
00:45:28,320 --> 00:45:31,440
Speaker 4: And so I went downstairs to monitor though, make sure

956
00:45:31,480 --> 00:45:32,200
Speaker 4: they get out of hand you.

957
00:45:32,640 --> 00:45:33,120
Speaker 6: On my way.

958
00:45:33,600 --> 00:45:35,600
Speaker 3: Before he got down there, it was over. It was

959
00:45:36,560 --> 00:45:38,080
Speaker 3: bank Bank Bank.

960
00:45:39,520 --> 00:45:42,279
Speaker 4: The last one was the and I saw it and

961
00:45:42,360 --> 00:45:43,680
Speaker 4: I was just like, because I kind of want to

962
00:45:43,680 --> 00:45:45,400
Speaker 4: go see You'll, like, I heard a lot about JJ to.

963
00:45:45,719 --> 00:45:46,960
Speaker 3: I'm like, let me go see what his hand is

964
00:45:47,000 --> 00:45:48,080
Speaker 3: talking about to you know what I mean?

965
00:45:48,680 --> 00:45:48,879
Speaker 6: Man?

966
00:45:48,960 --> 00:45:51,480
Speaker 3: I was like wow, And I said, well, first of all,

967
00:45:51,520 --> 00:45:52,760
Speaker 3: everything they said about JJ.

968
00:45:55,320 --> 00:45:56,080
Speaker 2: Got head.

969
00:45:58,400 --> 00:45:58,520
Speaker 4: Yo.

970
00:46:00,160 --> 00:46:02,400
Speaker 1: I couldn't have been about what I got down of

971
00:46:02,480 --> 00:46:04,399
Speaker 1: forty five seconds after y'all bro it was quick.

972
00:46:04,480 --> 00:46:06,239
Speaker 4: When I tell you it was quick. He wasted no time.

973
00:46:06,360 --> 00:46:07,920
Speaker 4: But I knew it was gonna happen. I know it

974
00:46:07,920 --> 00:46:10,080
Speaker 4: was gonna happening quick. But as a leader, I was like,

975
00:46:11,480 --> 00:46:14,799
Speaker 4: get up and nuts hugged. Yeah, yeah, hug all right,

976
00:46:14,920 --> 00:46:17,120
Speaker 4: we're cool. Like no, we're still going out. We guys like,

977
00:46:17,200 --> 00:46:19,480
Speaker 4: this is man that needs to be handled. Y'll handled it.

978
00:46:19,920 --> 00:46:22,520
Speaker 3: You're a podcast. He was out of pocket, you're out

979
00:46:22,520 --> 00:46:22,879
Speaker 3: of pocket.

980
00:46:22,880 --> 00:46:24,440
Speaker 2: You gotta figure that out. Now. We got to move on.

981
00:46:25,000 --> 00:46:27,759
Speaker 1: We moved on another question. I think that one of

982
00:46:27,800 --> 00:46:33,040
Speaker 1: the questions. I think one of the questions was me

983
00:46:33,080 --> 00:46:35,040
Speaker 1: and you the argument a man, you're getting into it.

984
00:46:35,080 --> 00:46:36,520
Speaker 1: I think it was one of the questions you talk

985
00:46:36,560 --> 00:46:38,080
Speaker 1: about when you got mad at me for slapping the

986
00:46:38,120 --> 00:46:40,719
Speaker 1: shoe at your hand and you had he had broke

987
00:46:40,760 --> 00:46:45,160
Speaker 1: his finger, hurt his finger. So who's the guard Lin Sanding?

988
00:46:45,239 --> 00:46:47,200
Speaker 1: Was it Jeremy lynn It Germany?

989
00:46:47,239 --> 00:46:48,040
Speaker 3: No, I want Germany.

990
00:46:48,280 --> 00:46:50,560
Speaker 1: I think it was he was in Charlotte the way

991
00:46:50,560 --> 00:46:52,719
Speaker 1: he had just broke his finger or something. So we're

992
00:46:52,760 --> 00:46:54,960
Speaker 1: going through a play. I'm blessing Jeremy Lynz, right, here.

993
00:46:55,480 --> 00:47:00,239
Speaker 1: I'm listening finger it's broke Jeremy Lynn, so we listen.

994
00:47:00,320 --> 00:47:02,680
Speaker 1: Jeremy Lane trapping him. I think he called time out,

995
00:47:02,719 --> 00:47:05,840
Speaker 1: but his shoe came off, so he walking to the

996
00:47:05,960 --> 00:47:07,600
Speaker 1: he walking to get a shoe, and d Wade pick

997
00:47:07,640 --> 00:47:09,440
Speaker 1: it up to give it to him. I'm in it,

998
00:47:09,560 --> 00:47:12,000
Speaker 1: you know me, I'm just crazy. I just slapped the

999
00:47:12,080 --> 00:47:13,959
Speaker 1: way hands and stopped the shoe out of his hand.

1000
00:47:14,360 --> 00:47:17,239
Speaker 1: But he already No, I ain't forgot his finger up.

1001
00:47:17,600 --> 00:47:18,360
Speaker 1: He's so mad at me.

1002
00:47:19,800 --> 00:47:22,440
Speaker 3: I wanted to cry. It was so mad at me,

1003
00:47:22,600 --> 00:47:24,960
Speaker 3: and you already sitting there like, please, nobody hit my finger.

1004
00:47:25,480 --> 00:47:26,680
Speaker 3: These nobody hit my finger.

1005
00:47:26,719 --> 00:47:31,480
Speaker 4: He slap you see these to see the man? He

1006
00:47:31,520 --> 00:47:34,239
Speaker 4: slapped my hands so fast. First of all, he made

1007
00:47:34,239 --> 00:47:35,480
Speaker 4: me feel like I was five.

1008
00:47:36,840 --> 00:47:37,440
Speaker 6: The first.

1009
00:47:38,840 --> 00:47:39,640
Speaker 1: First he sunned me.

1010
00:47:39,760 --> 00:47:41,000
Speaker 3: Then after that I was hurt at.

1011
00:47:40,920 --> 00:47:41,480
Speaker 2: The same time.

1012
00:47:41,680 --> 00:47:45,480
Speaker 3: Man, But how to do both me and you get?

1013
00:47:45,560 --> 00:47:47,920
Speaker 4: Yeah, we got into it, man, I mean respectfully, but

1014
00:47:48,239 --> 00:47:50,520
Speaker 4: we two leaders on this team, and sometimes we ain't

1015
00:47:50,560 --> 00:47:51,840
Speaker 4: gonna see out of eye on something.

1016
00:47:51,920 --> 00:47:53,480
Speaker 3: And I'm and I'm I'm stubborn.

1017
00:47:53,680 --> 00:47:55,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's very angry about that.

1018
00:47:55,680 --> 00:47:57,359
Speaker 4: No, but a side of that, we've had moments where

1019
00:47:57,360 --> 00:47:59,319
Speaker 4: I'm stubboring on the something and you stubboring on something,

1020
00:47:59,360 --> 00:48:01,160
Speaker 4: we gotta come by wait and be like, all right,

1021
00:48:01,200 --> 00:48:01,799
Speaker 4: my boy, you're right.

1022
00:48:01,840 --> 00:48:03,239
Speaker 3: I was a little late on that. But now it's

1023
00:48:03,239 --> 00:48:04,160
Speaker 3: been moments when heat a.

1024
00:48:04,160 --> 00:48:07,040
Speaker 1: Bottle, my we argue the whole time out of suppose

1025
00:48:09,120 --> 00:48:13,839
Speaker 1: it was just like this the whole time.

1026
00:48:14,000 --> 00:48:16,439
Speaker 4: But once the conversation was over, went on the court,

1027
00:48:16,520 --> 00:48:18,239
Speaker 4: we did what were supposed to do, and then we

1028
00:48:18,320 --> 00:48:19,920
Speaker 4: go back and letting and be like, yeah, you're right,

1029
00:48:20,000 --> 00:48:20,279
Speaker 4: my boy.

1030
00:48:20,840 --> 00:48:23,320
Speaker 3: I was a little late. I was tripping, you know

1031
00:48:23,320 --> 00:48:23,680
Speaker 3: what I mean.

1032
00:48:23,800 --> 00:48:24,480
Speaker 2: I was late on that.

1033
00:48:24,680 --> 00:48:25,000
Speaker 6: My bad.

1034
00:48:25,160 --> 00:48:26,240
Speaker 3: I was supposed have been that quicker.

1035
00:48:26,320 --> 00:48:29,360
Speaker 1: Now you get traded to Indiana, they trade you for

1036
00:48:29,480 --> 00:48:33,919
Speaker 1: Paul George. Yeah, here go the keys to the coma. Yeah,

1037
00:48:34,320 --> 00:48:37,880
Speaker 1: go to keys. This is what you wanted. So now,

1038
00:48:38,160 --> 00:48:39,839
Speaker 1: even though you didn't hear about it through your agent,

1039
00:48:39,880 --> 00:48:41,520
Speaker 1: even though you had to read about it on your phone,

1040
00:48:41,520 --> 00:48:42,719
Speaker 1: are you excited about this move?

1041
00:48:43,719 --> 00:48:46,440
Speaker 11: You know, when I first got traded there, I was

1042
00:48:48,360 --> 00:48:50,680
Speaker 11: Excuse me, I didn't know what to expect. Honestly, I

1043
00:48:50,840 --> 00:48:52,680
Speaker 11: was like I didn't know what to feel because it

1044
00:48:52,760 --> 00:48:53,960
Speaker 11: was like I got traded again.

1045
00:48:54,440 --> 00:48:55,440
Speaker 3: I'm like, dang, like.

1046
00:48:56,640 --> 00:48:58,799
Speaker 11: Because you know, back then, especially when you would get

1047
00:48:58,840 --> 00:49:02,200
Speaker 11: traded early on, especially because you know the league hadn't evolved.

1048
00:49:02,200 --> 00:49:04,680
Speaker 1: It won't like everybody was just going anywhere getting traded.

1049
00:49:05,080 --> 00:49:06,400
Speaker 1: You can keep me out of this conversation.

1050
00:49:06,680 --> 00:49:10,960
Speaker 3: You never got traded nothing. I don't know, twenty years

1051
00:49:11,000 --> 00:49:11,800
Speaker 3: in one place.

1052
00:49:12,360 --> 00:49:15,960
Speaker 1: You different, different, different. I see the chair, I see

1053
00:49:16,040 --> 00:49:22,200
Speaker 1: that that was just retaliation for that draft coming here.

1054
00:49:23,600 --> 00:49:26,600
Speaker 1: I appreciate that, all right.

1055
00:49:26,719 --> 00:49:27,960
Speaker 3: So, yeah, I got traded.

1056
00:49:28,280 --> 00:49:29,160
Speaker 1: I didn't know how to feel.

1057
00:49:29,200 --> 00:49:31,759
Speaker 11: Really honestly, you know, I was going back to where

1058
00:49:31,800 --> 00:49:35,040
Speaker 11: I went to school at, and you know, I didn't

1059
00:49:35,080 --> 00:49:37,799
Speaker 11: know how to feel because honestly, I felt so disrespected.

1060
00:49:37,920 --> 00:49:39,719
Speaker 11: Like it's like, man, I thought I was a number

1061
00:49:39,760 --> 00:49:43,279
Speaker 11: two pick. I thought people actually wanted me places, you know.

1062
00:49:43,600 --> 00:49:46,000
Speaker 11: And then you know, as a young kid, you know,

1063
00:49:46,239 --> 00:49:49,239
Speaker 11: especially me, you know, I ain't got no big brother,

1064
00:49:49,280 --> 00:49:51,120
Speaker 11: I don't got somebody who used to play in the league.

1065
00:49:51,120 --> 00:49:53,239
Speaker 11: I don't have those things in mine in my camp.

1066
00:49:53,320 --> 00:49:55,080
Speaker 11: My camp is a little set up a little different.

1067
00:49:55,120 --> 00:49:58,480
Speaker 11: So I was taking those blows really by myself, and

1068
00:49:59,480 --> 00:50:01,200
Speaker 11: you know, trying to figure out, okay, what do I

1069
00:50:01,280 --> 00:50:01,719
Speaker 11: do next?

1070
00:50:02,000 --> 00:50:02,680
Speaker 1: Like how do.

1071
00:50:02,800 --> 00:50:05,320
Speaker 11: How am I supposed to approach this next? And you know,

1072
00:50:05,400 --> 00:50:07,759
Speaker 11: I was just like, Okay, y'all, finna wake me up.

1073
00:50:07,800 --> 00:50:10,279
Speaker 11: That's fine, that's cool. I'm going back to Indy. And

1074
00:50:10,360 --> 00:50:12,080
Speaker 11: when I got there, it was like, it's your team.

1075
00:50:12,200 --> 00:50:13,280
Speaker 3: They giving me the keys.

1076
00:50:13,480 --> 00:50:13,600
Speaker 1: You know.

1077
00:50:13,719 --> 00:50:16,200
Speaker 11: I seen all the headlines when it first happened, like,

1078
00:50:16,840 --> 00:50:19,239
Speaker 11: oh they got to steal this could be they only

1079
00:50:19,320 --> 00:50:21,800
Speaker 11: traded him there because he went to Indy and it's

1080
00:50:21,840 --> 00:50:24,640
Speaker 11: going to be there trying to be average. And it

1081
00:50:24,800 --> 00:50:27,960
Speaker 11: was just like I was already on I'm about to

1082
00:50:28,000 --> 00:50:31,200
Speaker 11: turn up period like and then you know when I

1083
00:50:31,280 --> 00:50:34,040
Speaker 11: heard everything after a transpired, it was it just added

1084
00:50:34,080 --> 00:50:36,879
Speaker 11: fuel to the fire. And then when I got there,

1085
00:50:37,840 --> 00:50:40,480
Speaker 11: I just I ain't see nothing but food every day.

1086
00:50:42,080 --> 00:50:42,640
Speaker 3: Every day.

1087
00:50:42,680 --> 00:50:47,480
Speaker 11: They'll tell you, They'll tell every day every day, every

1088
00:50:47,640 --> 00:50:51,320
Speaker 11: day I was coming every single day I was coming in.

1089
00:50:52,080 --> 00:50:54,120
Speaker 11: It was great because we had a great team environment too.

1090
00:50:54,200 --> 00:50:56,360
Speaker 11: I felt like the guys enjoyed playing with me. I

1091
00:50:56,440 --> 00:50:59,120
Speaker 11: felt like we enjoyed playing with each other, and it

1092
00:50:59,320 --> 00:51:02,360
Speaker 11: just it just worked worked really well. So yeah, it

1093
00:51:02,480 --> 00:51:04,759
Speaker 11: turned out pretty good for me. I was thankful for sure.

1094
00:51:05,239 --> 00:51:07,200
Speaker 1: He listen, I tell people this all the time, Bro

1095
00:51:07,760 --> 00:51:09,880
Speaker 1: decided to have a little hate in your heart. It's

1096
00:51:09,920 --> 00:51:13,120
Speaker 1: a healthy hate. It's a healthy hate. It's a healthy hate, Bro,

1097
00:51:13,760 --> 00:51:17,120
Speaker 1: for real. Dog, yeah all the time, Bro, Like, I

1098
00:51:17,160 --> 00:51:18,919
Speaker 1: wouldn't be here if I didn't have that healthy hate,

1099
00:51:19,520 --> 00:51:21,680
Speaker 1: you know, the healthy head of not being drafted. I'm

1100
00:51:21,760 --> 00:51:24,000
Speaker 1: calling you from overseas to send me some ankle braces.

1101
00:51:25,239 --> 00:51:27,120
Speaker 1: Taking my own ankles in the bathroom before the game,

1102
00:51:27,920 --> 00:51:31,520
Speaker 1: taking my Scotch tape before the game. I said, killer,

1103
00:51:31,800 --> 00:51:33,439
Speaker 1: you got to see some ancle braces. Dog, I can't

1104
00:51:33,440 --> 00:51:37,759
Speaker 1: play like this. Yeah, you know what I'm saying. You know,

1105
00:51:39,239 --> 00:51:43,080
Speaker 1: but I got what I got. No Listen, when I

1106
00:51:43,120 --> 00:51:44,759
Speaker 1: got to Friends Doll, I gave myself one night to

1107
00:51:44,800 --> 00:51:46,600
Speaker 1: have a pity party. Had a box of Black and Miles,

1108
00:51:46,640 --> 00:51:51,640
Speaker 1: and I smoked them blacks. I smoked the blacks. I

1109
00:51:51,760 --> 00:51:53,440
Speaker 1: drank half that bottle of Hennessy, and when I got

1110
00:51:53,480 --> 00:51:54,680
Speaker 1: up the morning, it was trying to get to it

1111
00:51:54,960 --> 00:51:58,799
Speaker 1: and that mother. Revenge to a start, revenge to a start.

1112
00:52:00,080 --> 00:52:01,680
Speaker 1: Be surprised at home. I know, Big been dropping a

1113
00:52:01,719 --> 00:52:03,719
Speaker 1: lot of jewels. You'll be surprised at home. How far

1114
00:52:03,719 --> 00:52:07,759
Speaker 1: I hate to drive you. It was a list of

1115
00:52:08,160 --> 00:52:10,600
Speaker 1: that I hated. You know what I'm saying, and once

1116
00:52:10,640 --> 00:52:11,640
Speaker 1: again it was healthy.

1117
00:52:11,800 --> 00:52:12,080
Speaker 2: You know it.

1118
00:52:12,480 --> 00:52:14,480
Speaker 1: It drove me and brought inside of me. It brought

1119
00:52:14,560 --> 00:52:15,759
Speaker 1: out to me that I didn't know I had.

1120
00:52:18,760 --> 00:52:19,000
Speaker 2: Listen.

1121
00:52:19,360 --> 00:52:28,200
Speaker 1: You have to anchle, bracelet that killer. Listen. Listen every

1122
00:52:28,280 --> 00:52:31,719
Speaker 1: day you're I was. I was just checking off the list, bro,

1123
00:52:31,920 --> 00:52:33,719
Speaker 1: Like you know what I'm saying. Every day I go

1124
00:52:33,840 --> 00:52:35,520
Speaker 1: to the battle, it's a hole in the floor. What

1125
00:52:35,640 --> 00:52:37,360
Speaker 1: is that? That's the toilet. No, that's not the toilet.

1126
00:52:37,440 --> 00:52:39,440
Speaker 1: That can't be the toilet. That can't be the toilet.

1127
00:52:40,239 --> 00:52:41,680
Speaker 1: Check on the list. I can't wait that get back

1128
00:52:41,680 --> 00:52:50,000
Speaker 1: home for making me, making me whole. Kill everybody. Everybody listen, dog.

1129
00:52:50,200 --> 00:52:51,800
Speaker 1: So I understand that, and I try to tell you

1130
00:52:51,880 --> 00:52:55,400
Speaker 1: because I think for me and it's just trying to

1131
00:52:55,480 --> 00:52:58,640
Speaker 1: understand this generation is that, you know, I think everybody

1132
00:52:58,680 --> 00:53:02,000
Speaker 1: wants to be liked. I think everybody wants to want

1133
00:53:02,000 --> 00:53:04,480
Speaker 1: the like everybody wants to be liked. I think everybody

1134
00:53:04,560 --> 00:53:08,600
Speaker 1: wants to be accepted. But understanding, if you fall into

1135
00:53:08,960 --> 00:53:12,959
Speaker 1: the category of it liked and accepted by other people,

1136
00:53:13,440 --> 00:53:15,880
Speaker 1: then that probably does nothing for you as a person individually.

1137
00:53:16,000 --> 00:53:17,839
Speaker 1: I can tell you first hand, I don't do nothing

1138
00:53:17,880 --> 00:53:20,520
Speaker 1: for you. Oh I love it. He's such a great guy.

1139
00:53:21,480 --> 00:53:24,000
Speaker 1: What is that doing for you? To call you for

1140
00:53:24,080 --> 00:53:27,400
Speaker 1: the business deal? Is like so just trying to be

1141
00:53:27,560 --> 00:53:31,880
Speaker 1: liked and accepted that. That never worked for me because

1142
00:53:31,880 --> 00:53:33,680
Speaker 1: I had to be I had to set a standard

1143
00:53:33,680 --> 00:53:34,520
Speaker 1: for myself. Yeah.

1144
00:53:34,520 --> 00:53:37,560
Speaker 11: I've seen something the other day that said, you could

1145
00:53:37,600 --> 00:53:41,800
Speaker 11: be nice. Don't be nice, be kind because nice guys

1146
00:53:41,920 --> 00:53:42,840
Speaker 11: get thrown around.

1147
00:53:44,120 --> 00:53:46,560
Speaker 1: They're getting tossed and turned and left.

1148
00:53:46,600 --> 00:53:48,840
Speaker 6: And they were sitting there and wondering, like, I know.

1149
00:53:48,920 --> 00:53:50,319
Speaker 1: I used to be one of those guys that ain't

1150
00:53:50,360 --> 00:53:56,919
Speaker 1: just business's women too, yeah, said We all know the saying, yeah,

1151
00:53:56,960 --> 00:53:58,279
Speaker 1: because you could be come.

1152
00:53:58,200 --> 00:54:03,000
Speaker 11: From nowhere if at first your last authenticity, authenticity just

1153
00:54:03,560 --> 00:54:05,320
Speaker 11: first and only.

1154
00:54:06,880 --> 00:54:10,480
Speaker 2: Myself. So talk to us about some of them. The

1155
00:54:10,640 --> 00:54:15,080
Speaker 2: epic heat Indiana Pacer battles when I was an Indy.

1156
00:54:16,680 --> 00:54:18,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, he was because he inherited that rivalry.

1157
00:54:18,880 --> 00:54:22,080
Speaker 2: Okay, because well I'll tell you I didn't. I didn't

1158
00:54:22,280 --> 00:54:22,560
Speaker 2: got it.

1159
00:54:24,560 --> 00:54:27,400
Speaker 1: Rival Every time we walked in them, we felt that

1160
00:54:28,000 --> 00:54:29,560
Speaker 1: inherited that. You know what I'm saying.

1161
00:54:29,960 --> 00:54:34,080
Speaker 11: I have a vivid memory of Jimmy blowing a kiss

1162
00:54:34,120 --> 00:54:37,560
Speaker 11: a t J. Warren one game that was great. We

1163
00:54:37,760 --> 00:54:40,680
Speaker 11: we had some real battles when I was Indo real,

1164
00:54:40,920 --> 00:54:44,080
Speaker 11: like it felt like heavyweight fights when we play off

1165
00:54:44,120 --> 00:54:46,960
Speaker 11: for some reason, and I and I enjoyed it too

1166
00:54:47,000 --> 00:54:49,759
Speaker 11: because it was like, okay, we're playing and heat used

1167
00:54:49,800 --> 00:54:52,879
Speaker 11: to play there. It's like okay, I'm up, like I'm

1168
00:54:52,920 --> 00:54:55,000
Speaker 11: ready to go, and it'd just be war the whole

1169
00:54:55,160 --> 00:54:55,640
Speaker 11: entire time.

1170
00:54:55,800 --> 00:54:58,520
Speaker 1: Old school Easter, Old school Easter.

1171
00:54:59,080 --> 00:55:00,920
Speaker 3: We used to you in there. We used to we

1172
00:55:01,040 --> 00:55:04,120
Speaker 3: used to hate each other. Indiana Miami days were old. Boy.

1173
00:55:04,280 --> 00:55:07,560
Speaker 11: We had some dudes like like, uh, when you Eastern

1174
00:55:07,600 --> 00:55:10,600
Speaker 11: Conference finals then we saw that games.

1175
00:55:11,200 --> 00:55:15,680
Speaker 1: I was, well, listen, say something. I'm probably just not

1176
00:55:15,719 --> 00:55:17,239
Speaker 1: getting to the point where i could speak to somebody

1177
00:55:17,280 --> 00:55:21,399
Speaker 1: from the pace. I'm probably just not getting to that point.

1178
00:55:21,840 --> 00:55:24,000
Speaker 1: Well I can speak to people from listen. It's just

1179
00:55:24,080 --> 00:55:26,320
Speaker 1: a difference, you know what I'm saying. I just I

1180
00:55:26,360 --> 00:55:27,399
Speaker 1: didn't know how to do both.

1181
00:55:27,960 --> 00:55:29,560
Speaker 6: You like who you who you hate worse?

1182
00:55:29,640 --> 00:55:40,319
Speaker 12: That mother was Boston Cus, That's sure.

1183
00:55:41,200 --> 00:55:43,680
Speaker 1: But I just I was I was just never that

1184
00:55:43,840 --> 00:55:46,320
Speaker 1: I needed every edge I can get, Like you know,

1185
00:55:46,400 --> 00:55:48,759
Speaker 1: people talk about how m J creates scenarios in his

1186
00:55:48,880 --> 00:55:51,680
Speaker 1: mind I used to create in my mind, Like if

1187
00:55:51,680 --> 00:55:54,080
Speaker 1: it's in my mind when I look at you before

1188
00:55:54,120 --> 00:55:56,000
Speaker 1: the tip off, Literally we're not even on the court.

1189
00:55:56,000 --> 00:55:57,920
Speaker 1: We just locked in this little last room and we

1190
00:55:58,000 --> 00:55:59,440
Speaker 1: got to fight to the death to come out. That's

1191
00:56:00,160 --> 00:56:02,480
Speaker 1: thinking about before the game. That's the kind of mindset

1192
00:56:02,520 --> 00:56:04,839
Speaker 1: I'm put myself in before the game, and I got

1193
00:56:04,880 --> 00:56:06,879
Speaker 1: to be the one come out. You know what I'm saying.

1194
00:56:06,920 --> 00:56:08,880
Speaker 1: So it's just things like that, bro, that you know

1195
00:56:08,880 --> 00:56:11,920
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. I look back now, you know what

1196
00:56:11,960 --> 00:56:14,600
Speaker 1: I'm saying, And it's funny to me because I got

1197
00:56:14,880 --> 00:56:17,399
Speaker 1: liked and accepted when I was in the og row,

1198
00:56:17,840 --> 00:56:20,200
Speaker 1: when I wasn't playing as much and I was more

1199
00:56:20,239 --> 00:56:22,399
Speaker 1: of an og and I was more open to having

1200
00:56:22,440 --> 00:56:25,480
Speaker 1: a conversation and dialect with guys. But when I was playing,

1201
00:56:25,880 --> 00:56:27,759
Speaker 1: it wasn't very like and I didn't have very many

1202
00:56:27,800 --> 00:56:30,560
Speaker 1: friends outside of my teammates. That was okay, it was

1203
00:56:30,680 --> 00:56:33,120
Speaker 1: very okay. I didn't get we was winning. That's what

1204
00:56:33,160 --> 00:56:35,080
Speaker 1: it was about, bro. Like once again, I didn't have

1205
00:56:35,160 --> 00:56:38,280
Speaker 1: a listen. I ain't have an option. I was undrafted.

1206
00:56:38,719 --> 00:56:40,080
Speaker 1: I don't have the option to come in here and

1207
00:56:40,160 --> 00:56:41,560
Speaker 1: try to be like you know, they try to tell

1208
00:56:41,560 --> 00:56:43,439
Speaker 1: your practice, slow down, your fellow, you're going too fast.

1209
00:56:46,680 --> 00:56:50,319
Speaker 1: The floor last, so I can go back and take

1210
00:56:50,360 --> 00:56:53,440
Speaker 1: my Scott's take. That's what you want me to do.

1211
00:56:54,840 --> 00:56:59,319
Speaker 1: Slow down, So I go back. Now, I can't slow down.

1212
00:56:59,520 --> 00:57:01,440
Speaker 1: I don't have have that luxury to slow down. So

1213
00:57:01,880 --> 00:57:03,839
Speaker 1: it was never, it was never. It was never even

1214
00:57:03,840 --> 00:57:06,000
Speaker 1: an option for me to be liked. I think my

1215
00:57:06,120 --> 00:57:07,800
Speaker 1: only way was to come in the way I came in.

1216
00:57:08,000 --> 00:57:11,000
Speaker 1: I was like, lay it all on the line and

1217
00:57:11,280 --> 00:57:13,680
Speaker 1: just see what the calls forth. You know what I'm saying.

1218
00:57:14,120 --> 00:57:16,120
Speaker 2: When C b ray On or bird Man going on

1219
00:57:16,200 --> 00:57:16,760
Speaker 2: the podcast.

1220
00:57:17,440 --> 00:57:21,720
Speaker 1: Man, listen, Ray, I just seen you the other day.

1221
00:57:21,760 --> 00:57:25,000
Speaker 2: Razor ride a bike, probably just running seven miles.

1222
00:57:25,120 --> 00:57:26,120
Speaker 1: Son played against ray Son.

1223
00:57:26,160 --> 00:57:27,840
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I saw him coaching us last year.

1224
00:57:28,200 --> 00:57:29,840
Speaker 1: I saw right the other day, So that that should

1225
00:57:29,880 --> 00:57:31,919
Speaker 1: be an easy one. Come on, Ray, we gotta find

1226
00:57:32,000 --> 00:57:34,320
Speaker 1: bird bird Man in a bunk or somewhere out here,

1227
00:57:34,360 --> 00:57:35,720
Speaker 1: somewhere here, somewhere.

1228
00:57:35,880 --> 00:57:36,960
Speaker 2: You heard I'm calling him right now.

1229
00:57:37,680 --> 00:57:42,800
Speaker 1: He probably heard you too, Right now, bird flap and CB.

1230
00:57:43,120 --> 00:57:45,480
Speaker 1: We gotta fine c b Oh, yeah, it might be

1231
00:57:45,560 --> 00:57:49,280
Speaker 1: hard to we we got dust and tell you right now,

1232
00:57:49,320 --> 00:57:50,040
Speaker 1: I ain't gonna lie to you.

1233
00:57:50,120 --> 00:57:51,360
Speaker 2: I want to dust him off. I want to talk

1234
00:57:51,360 --> 00:57:52,880
Speaker 2: to him about the books he used to read them.

1235
00:57:53,400 --> 00:57:55,680
Speaker 2: Locker room, we were getting ready for the most faking,

1236
00:57:55,800 --> 00:57:57,200
Speaker 2: excruciating game in our lives.

1237
00:57:57,400 --> 00:57:58,200
Speaker 6: Might be over there like this.

1238
00:57:58,360 --> 00:58:01,720
Speaker 1: Listen, I'm in the lock I said, damn, you gotta

1239
00:58:02,560 --> 00:58:04,480
Speaker 1: character and go out, ball out.

1240
00:58:04,720 --> 00:58:06,280
Speaker 2: C be you a bad boy.

1241
00:58:06,600 --> 00:58:09,000
Speaker 1: Locker room listening to Tupac me, I guess the world

1242
00:58:09,440 --> 00:58:13,320
Speaker 1: all eyes on me? Uh, no limit for the mother

1243
00:58:14,360 --> 00:58:18,240
Speaker 1: and CEB's over here reading the books and cool yard Like,

1244
00:58:18,320 --> 00:58:20,120
Speaker 1: I'm like, what were you listening to you for?

1245
00:58:20,240 --> 00:58:20,600
Speaker 9: No limit?

1246
00:58:20,760 --> 00:58:23,920
Speaker 1: No limit and all that? I was ready for for

1247
00:58:24,000 --> 00:58:27,800
Speaker 1: whatever killing. Listen, all I know is after the game,

1248
00:58:27,920 --> 00:58:30,320
Speaker 1: all us ain't coming out. That's all I know. We're

1249
00:58:30,320 --> 00:58:33,640
Speaker 1: gonna lose a few. So that's all. I'm literally in

1250
00:58:33,680 --> 00:58:36,960
Speaker 1: my mind getting ready for blood ship. He's over there

1251
00:58:37,040 --> 00:58:42,760
Speaker 1: reading Alan Poe, Alan Poe. I don't understand. But whatever

1252
00:58:42,880 --> 00:58:46,160
Speaker 1: you need, dog, whatever you need, let's go.

1253
00:58:47,160 --> 00:58:48,919
Speaker 2: But guess here's a savage one to tip.

1254
00:58:49,160 --> 00:58:51,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, everybody, and that's everybody had their own thing.

1255
00:58:52,440 --> 00:58:54,560
Speaker 2: Yes, that's why, Yes, go ahead and talk about shame.

1256
00:58:55,240 --> 00:58:59,320
Speaker 1: Ain't over there reading analyticals. I'm like trying to cut

1257
00:58:59,400 --> 00:59:03,840
Speaker 1: up his throat. But everybody had their own way that

1258
00:59:03,960 --> 00:59:07,200
Speaker 1: they got ready to go out there and perform. It

1259
00:59:07,360 --> 00:59:09,680
Speaker 1: was interesting to see bron put his head man on

1260
00:59:09,800 --> 00:59:12,760
Speaker 1: fifteen times fifteen, it's all right, it's straight this time.

1261
00:59:12,760 --> 00:59:13,880
Speaker 1: You ain't got to do it no more.

1262
00:59:14,520 --> 00:59:17,000
Speaker 2: Close, thirty six times close.

1263
00:59:19,000 --> 00:59:19,800
Speaker 1: It was crazy.

1264
00:59:19,880 --> 00:59:21,200
Speaker 2: I'm telling you though, Man, it goes back to what

1265
00:59:21,240 --> 00:59:21,600
Speaker 2: we said.

1266
00:59:21,640 --> 00:59:22,000
Speaker 3: Man it was.

1267
00:59:22,160 --> 00:59:25,640
Speaker 2: It was a gumbo of routines and habits. Everyone was different.

1268
00:59:25,680 --> 00:59:27,240
Speaker 2: And if you sat back and you saw it like

1269
00:59:27,440 --> 00:59:31,120
Speaker 2: ever you see every humans, Birdman would be interjecting crazy.

1270
00:59:31,400 --> 00:59:32,880
Speaker 2: Let me get that couple of mud, and get that

1271
00:59:33,080 --> 00:59:35,360
Speaker 2: mud every time you walk in, use a cold ass, honky.

1272
00:59:35,440 --> 00:59:41,320
Speaker 1: Let me get that four shots, tell ye take four shots.

1273
00:59:41,560 --> 00:59:45,400
Speaker 1: Five pumps had up five punps vanilla. They were milk

1274
00:59:45,440 --> 00:59:49,439
Speaker 1: one hundred and forty degrees extra. I remember that drink.

1275
00:59:49,800 --> 00:59:53,160
Speaker 1: You gotta get that mud. Yes, sir, it was that fun.

1276
00:59:53,600 --> 00:59:55,520
Speaker 2: But with that being said, that's a great question.

1277
00:59:55,720 --> 00:59:56,000
Speaker 1: C B.

1278
00:59:56,760 --> 00:59:59,080
Speaker 2: Come on, now, come on now.

1279
00:59:59,480 --> 01:00:02,040
Speaker 1: Bird Man, I know you're out here somewhere. Rare. My

1280
01:00:02,120 --> 01:00:03,440
Speaker 1: son just played your son the other day.

1281
01:00:03,520 --> 01:00:05,240
Speaker 2: Now it's hard to get bird man No, you don't

1282
01:00:05,240 --> 01:00:06,760
Speaker 2: have a cell phone. You have Sunday.

1283
01:00:08,440 --> 01:00:10,280
Speaker 1: I could probably find Bird people I don't remember. Me

1284
01:00:10,280 --> 01:00:11,480
Speaker 1: and Bird used to be the Bash Brothers.

1285
01:00:11,600 --> 01:00:12,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, the Bash Brothers.

1286
01:00:12,720 --> 01:00:15,080
Speaker 1: We was planning to be professional wrestlers when we retired Dog.

1287
01:00:15,280 --> 01:00:16,800
Speaker 1: I'm gonna it was gonna be a tag tim Dog

1288
01:00:16,880 --> 01:00:18,080
Speaker 1: that had been an e Leak tag team for a

1289
01:00:18,240 --> 01:00:20,960
Speaker 1: whooped ass that'd been. You could have been like, I mean, Jean,

1290
01:00:22,640 --> 01:00:24,480
Speaker 1: you could have been like I mean Geen. No, we

1291
01:00:24,600 --> 01:00:28,400
Speaker 1: walk out and you walk out beside us, I mean Jean.

1292
01:00:29,400 --> 01:00:30,920
Speaker 2: I would have love him. I do love to me,

1293
01:00:31,000 --> 01:00:32,800
Speaker 2: Me and Geane. I'm gonna give you a bird bath story.

1294
01:00:32,840 --> 01:00:33,600
Speaker 3: This was crazy.

1295
01:00:33,640 --> 01:00:37,320
Speaker 2: Remember that big ass like eighteen wheeler truck thing he had, Yes,

1296
01:00:37,520 --> 01:00:40,000
Speaker 2: that had the freaking semi horn or a train horn

1297
01:00:40,040 --> 01:00:43,320
Speaker 2: on it. Yeah, I'll never forget this man. He took

1298
01:00:43,360 --> 01:00:45,400
Speaker 2: me to the airport one day after Praice. First of all,

1299
01:00:45,400 --> 01:00:49,640
Speaker 2: he's going one hundred and seventy and he and he

1300
01:00:49,720 --> 01:00:51,680
Speaker 2: get behind a car like a small quarterback. First of all,

1301
01:00:51,720 --> 01:00:53,920
Speaker 2: you understand big that's it was a semi truck basically

1302
01:00:54,160 --> 01:00:56,080
Speaker 2: barely fit in our parking garage. I don't think it did.

1303
01:00:56,320 --> 01:00:57,800
Speaker 2: I think we had to walk out of the park. Gadget.

1304
01:00:58,720 --> 01:01:01,920
Speaker 2: We get in it and he's haul up behind like

1305
01:01:02,000 --> 01:01:05,040
Speaker 2: a corvetter or Lamborghini or something. He hits that porn.

1306
01:01:06,520 --> 01:01:08,560
Speaker 2: I can't imagine that that came out of dude.

1307
01:01:10,800 --> 01:01:11,960
Speaker 1: I said, it's scared me.

1308
01:01:12,040 --> 01:01:15,040
Speaker 2: I'm in a passer seat, man, But that tells you

1309
01:01:15,080 --> 01:01:15,760
Speaker 2: who bird Man is.

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Speaker 1: That's what bird Man did is one of my favorite teammates,

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01:01:18,360 --> 01:01:20,840
Speaker 1: was my legend. That was my dog, Miss bird Legend.

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Speaker 1: Mike Bro, do you ever consider doing some ESPN? Sometimes

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01:01:24,640 --> 01:01:26,040
Speaker 1: I'll let you d hold it down.

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Speaker 3: I did it. He's the lead at it.

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Speaker 2: I suck at it and cut it out, cut it out.

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01:01:30,360 --> 01:01:31,200
Speaker 1: But I appreciate the.

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Speaker 2: Gaess you do. You're good at that.

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01:01:32,680 --> 01:01:33,640
Speaker 3: You did it. I enjoyed it.

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Speaker 1: You did it first. I mean, I like talking sports.

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Speaker 1: I like talking basketball. So you know, for me watching

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01:01:38,520 --> 01:01:40,600
Speaker 1: the game, I'm complaining about it anyway, people ain't doing

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01:01:40,600 --> 01:01:42,240
Speaker 1: it right, so I might as well get paid for it.

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01:01:44,000 --> 01:01:45,520
Speaker 1: It's hard for me to watch a game of basketball

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01:01:45,520 --> 01:01:47,840
Speaker 1: without breaking it down and complaining about that ain't being

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Speaker 1: done right. So like, if I'm gonna get I'm gonna

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01:01:50,520 --> 01:01:52,600
Speaker 1: get paid for a while. I just gotta put on

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01:01:52,680 --> 01:01:54,000
Speaker 1: a suit and be up early in the morning. That's

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01:01:54,040 --> 01:01:54,520
Speaker 1: the only part.

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Speaker 2: It's early too, but early's ear the word. I actually

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01:01:58,800 --> 01:02:01,440
Speaker 2: I actually enjoyed ESPN five am, but it was time

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01:02:01,480 --> 01:02:01,800
Speaker 2: to move on.

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01:02:02,640 --> 01:02:02,840
Speaker 10: Huh.

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01:02:03,440 --> 01:02:04,959
Speaker 1: I'm up at five am early?

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01:02:05,120 --> 01:02:06,880
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, car watch Stars early now.

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01:02:07,000 --> 01:02:09,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, you got to hit that first take first, you

1336
01:02:09,640 --> 01:02:12,200
Speaker 1: got get up, you got first take. Then it depends

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01:02:12,200 --> 01:02:14,760
Speaker 1: on what the schedule is for the ESPN hits different

1338
01:02:14,800 --> 01:02:16,960
Speaker 1: things like that. But I'm in my element with that camera.

1339
01:02:17,040 --> 01:02:19,120
Speaker 1: Come on, killer, Yeah, you're doing lead jobs like work.

1340
01:02:19,160 --> 01:02:20,720
Speaker 1: You're doing a lead job, coach. I ain't gonna let

1341
01:02:20,720 --> 01:02:20,840
Speaker 1: to you.

1342
01:02:21,800 --> 01:02:24,920
Speaker 2: I'm glad we talked about you doing ESPN right now

1343
01:02:25,000 --> 01:02:27,800
Speaker 2: because we have a new format for and we're about

1344
01:02:27,800 --> 01:02:28,800
Speaker 2: to go out to the Bay Area. We have a

1345
01:02:28,840 --> 01:02:31,280
Speaker 2: new format for All Star Break for All Star Games.

1346
01:02:31,280 --> 01:02:32,200
Speaker 1: How do you feel about it?

1347
01:02:33,880 --> 01:02:36,520
Speaker 2: I mean, my initial reaction is I'm an old school dude.

1348
01:02:36,800 --> 01:02:39,000
Speaker 2: I love when East West just went out there and bump.

1349
01:02:40,880 --> 01:02:43,280
Speaker 2: But I've also never been an All Stars, so I

1350
01:02:43,360 --> 01:02:45,240
Speaker 2: don't know, you know, and I mean it's I mean,

1351
01:02:45,240 --> 01:02:47,240
Speaker 2: it's sincerely, I'm I'm but I want to I want

1352
01:02:47,240 --> 01:02:49,480
Speaker 2: to say something though, because I don't, because I hear

1353
01:02:49,480 --> 01:02:52,320
Speaker 2: the criticisms. Right, they don't play hard, they don't like listen,

1354
01:02:52,400 --> 01:02:56,840
Speaker 2: man with with with all due respect, the guys that

1355
01:02:56,920 --> 01:02:59,240
Speaker 2: are in the All Star Game have heavy lifting the

1356
01:02:59,440 --> 01:02:59,920
Speaker 2: entire year.

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01:03:00,080 --> 01:03:01,080
Speaker 3: Yes, right.

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01:03:01,600 --> 01:03:03,640
Speaker 2: If you asked, if you ask your fan base, if

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01:03:03,680 --> 01:03:05,880
Speaker 2: you ask your ownership, if you asked everybody, would you

1360
01:03:05,920 --> 01:03:11,320
Speaker 2: want a healthy, good, strong, uh Lebron James at the

1361
01:03:11,440 --> 01:03:13,360
Speaker 2: end of the season, blah blah blah, the answer is

1362
01:03:14,080 --> 01:03:15,160
Speaker 2: always gonna be yes.

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01:03:15,240 --> 01:03:15,360
Speaker 3: Yes.

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01:03:16,360 --> 01:03:19,520
Speaker 2: So again, it's it's not fair to me to answer

1365
01:03:19,600 --> 01:03:22,000
Speaker 2: this question because the easy answer is an og and

1366
01:03:22,160 --> 01:03:25,000
Speaker 2: loving the All Star Games growing up, I would say, man,

1367
01:03:25,080 --> 01:03:27,120
Speaker 2: just East West, let's go ride this thing out. Let's

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01:03:27,120 --> 01:03:29,920
Speaker 2: see who wins. But I also, like I said, never

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01:03:29,960 --> 01:03:32,680
Speaker 2: been an All Star. I was never one of those

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01:03:32,720 --> 01:03:34,560
Speaker 2: guys that had to do all. I mean I had

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01:03:34,640 --> 01:03:36,320
Speaker 2: times where I was one of the best players on

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01:03:36,400 --> 01:03:38,520
Speaker 2: the team, but it was never like I was at

1373
01:03:38,520 --> 01:03:41,240
Speaker 2: an All Star level, So it wasn't it's hard, I don't.

1374
01:03:41,280 --> 01:03:42,680
Speaker 2: I mean, I don't know what their bodies feel like,

1375
01:03:42,680 --> 01:03:43,440
Speaker 2: I don't know where they're at.

1376
01:03:43,680 --> 01:03:45,400
Speaker 1: I mean, my question is, how does this hit them?

1377
01:03:45,440 --> 01:03:49,360
Speaker 1: Play harder? I think that guy, I.

1378
01:03:49,400 --> 01:03:51,680
Speaker 2: Think I think it can. I think it can. The

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01:03:51,760 --> 01:03:53,480
Speaker 2: only reason I think it can is because it's it's

1380
01:03:53,560 --> 01:03:57,200
Speaker 2: to forty. It's not a long ass game, so you're

1381
01:03:57,240 --> 01:03:58,840
Speaker 2: not It's not gonna be grueling and taxing.

1382
01:04:00,040 --> 01:04:01,840
Speaker 1: They will be playing no minutes anyway in an All

1383
01:04:01,920 --> 01:04:02,439
Speaker 1: star game.

1384
01:04:03,200 --> 01:04:04,960
Speaker 2: But but I'm but I'm saying though, like like you're

1385
01:04:05,040 --> 01:04:08,000
Speaker 2: but I'm saying in this situation here, like the format

1386
01:04:08,080 --> 01:04:11,640
Speaker 2: is dope. It's dope. I just, I just I'm I'm

1387
01:04:11,680 --> 01:04:12,800
Speaker 2: old school. I'm old school.

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01:04:12,880 --> 01:04:14,480
Speaker 1: Play drop that five hundred thousand.

1389
01:04:14,520 --> 01:04:16,440
Speaker 3: How you do every one of them?

1390
01:04:17,000 --> 01:04:20,560
Speaker 1: The championship? Everyone maybe sixty, they're still going to extra

1391
01:04:20,640 --> 01:04:21,120
Speaker 1: five hundred?

1392
01:04:21,280 --> 01:04:23,880
Speaker 2: Yeah they might, they might the last eight minutes you.

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01:04:23,920 --> 01:04:27,000
Speaker 1: Want, Okay, that's fine, I know, But this way, the

1394
01:04:27,480 --> 01:04:29,320
Speaker 1: go for go for blood the last eight minutes. Then

1395
01:04:29,360 --> 01:04:30,439
Speaker 1: the fans got their money worth.

1396
01:04:31,080 --> 01:04:32,320
Speaker 2: I think they can go for blood to the last

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01:04:32,360 --> 01:04:32,800
Speaker 2: eight minutes now.

1398
01:04:32,840 --> 01:04:36,800
Speaker 1: Anyways, I think they'll be playing. But I mean, but

1399
01:04:36,840 --> 01:04:39,160
Speaker 1: nobody wants to get hurt. Respectfully, I understand it. It's

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01:04:39,200 --> 01:04:39,720
Speaker 1: hard get it.

1401
01:04:39,760 --> 01:04:40,960
Speaker 2: It's hard get because you look at it.

1402
01:04:41,040 --> 01:04:43,280
Speaker 1: I don't understand how look in the formats gonna make

1403
01:04:43,280 --> 01:04:45,600
Speaker 1: them playoffs. They're not gonna play They're not gonna play off.

1404
01:04:45,680 --> 01:04:47,640
Speaker 2: Like I think, I think the reality of the situation

1405
01:04:47,800 --> 01:04:49,160
Speaker 2: is is we gotta we gotta take the All Star

1406
01:04:49,200 --> 01:04:50,840
Speaker 2: Game for what it is. It's a celebration of how

1407
01:04:50,880 --> 01:04:54,560
Speaker 2: good these yeah, they are and and if you're gonna

1408
01:04:54,560 --> 01:04:57,080
Speaker 2: have them eighty two games and listen, man, I'm so

1409
01:04:57,280 --> 01:05:00,560
Speaker 2: thankful and blessed this NBA that this thing exists. But

1410
01:05:00,680 --> 01:05:02,800
Speaker 2: it's it's it's you know, you can't just keep whipping

1411
01:05:02,840 --> 01:05:03,840
Speaker 2: a horse to right.

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Speaker 1: It can be true.

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Speaker 4: My my my my my my.

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Speaker 9: My my my my

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Speaker 12: My