1 00:00:00,040 --> 00:00:02,599 Speaker 1: Arizona straight to the line. There's the snap to Murray. 2 00:00:02,759 --> 00:00:05,680 Speaker 1: Murray looks left pumps once looking looking a lot of time. 3 00:00:05,960 --> 00:00:08,119 Speaker 1: Now we rose and he didn't something about a line 4 00:00:08,320 --> 00:00:11,360 Speaker 1: picked up down the left sideline, picked up a block 5 00:00:11,480 --> 00:00:15,560 Speaker 1: at the dirty twenty twenty Amoni ten five and he's 6 00:00:15,560 --> 00:00:18,680 Speaker 1: spot out a pound right there, I say you, twenty four, 7 00:00:19,160 --> 00:00:28,360 Speaker 1: I see you. Welcome to another edition of the twenty 8 00:00:28,360 --> 00:00:31,319 Speaker 1: Men in the Huddle podcast. I am joined by Seth Ryan, 9 00:00:31,480 --> 00:00:34,920 Speaker 1: the assistant Lions wide receiver coach, and Seth Welcome to 10 00:00:34,960 --> 00:00:36,360 Speaker 1: the pod. Thanks for taking the time. I know you 11 00:00:36,360 --> 00:00:39,239 Speaker 1: guys are busy fitting me in between meetings and practices 12 00:00:39,280 --> 00:00:42,000 Speaker 1: and all that stuff, so I really appreciate you. No problem. 13 00:00:42,120 --> 00:00:45,640 Speaker 1: Now you started as a coaching intern and offensive quality 14 00:00:45,680 --> 00:00:49,360 Speaker 1: control coach. We're working with wide receivers for the Chargers. Correct. 15 00:00:49,880 --> 00:00:53,000 Speaker 1: How is that? Obviously that's a pretty talented group, some 16 00:00:53,120 --> 00:00:55,320 Speaker 1: veteran guys are and to baby cut your teeth in 17 00:00:55,360 --> 00:00:58,040 Speaker 1: the NFL with a group of some proving guys are 18 00:00:58,040 --> 00:01:00,560 Speaker 1: Just how much did that kind of jump start your 19 00:01:00,680 --> 00:01:05,240 Speaker 1: knowledge of, you know, the coaching that position. I was 20 00:01:05,280 --> 00:01:08,199 Speaker 1: bussed to be in a room that was very veteran Keenan, 21 00:01:08,200 --> 00:01:12,360 Speaker 1: Allen Tyrrell Williams, Travis Benjamin. They were each had at 22 00:01:12,440 --> 00:01:15,000 Speaker 1: least four or five years Kenny had like six by 23 00:01:15,040 --> 00:01:17,240 Speaker 1: the time I got there, So it was it helped 24 00:01:17,280 --> 00:01:20,679 Speaker 1: a lot because I learned a lot of like route 25 00:01:20,720 --> 00:01:23,839 Speaker 1: teach and stuff from them from their years of experience, 26 00:01:23,959 --> 00:01:26,160 Speaker 1: which kind of helped me as I started my career, 27 00:01:27,760 --> 00:01:31,080 Speaker 1: which really helped me take over the room. When I 28 00:01:31,120 --> 00:01:33,560 Speaker 1: was in twenty twenty, Yeah, when our receiver coach had 29 00:01:33,560 --> 00:01:36,160 Speaker 1: to leave for personal reasons, I had to step in 30 00:01:36,200 --> 00:01:38,600 Speaker 1: and become the coach, and that kind of helped because 31 00:01:38,600 --> 00:01:41,080 Speaker 1: I already had that relationship with them. I knew kind 32 00:01:41,080 --> 00:01:43,640 Speaker 1: of how they saw routes and how they saw coverages. 33 00:01:44,200 --> 00:01:47,280 Speaker 1: Kind of helped me begin my process. So before we 34 00:01:47,319 --> 00:01:50,560 Speaker 1: get into the nitty gritty of the football stuff, we 35 00:01:50,640 --> 00:01:52,720 Speaker 1: gotta I just gotta ask, now, what is it like 36 00:01:52,880 --> 00:01:57,360 Speaker 1: growing up in a historic football family. Obviously if you 37 00:01:57,400 --> 00:01:59,760 Speaker 1: don't know out there set to the son of Rex 38 00:02:00,000 --> 00:02:03,120 Speaker 1: Iran obviously former head coach in the NFL TV personality, 39 00:02:03,160 --> 00:02:05,920 Speaker 1: but you've been involved in football your whole life, and 40 00:02:06,000 --> 00:02:08,360 Speaker 1: just what was it like kind of growing up in 41 00:02:08,400 --> 00:02:12,560 Speaker 1: that football family that football atmosphere. To me, it's the 42 00:02:12,600 --> 00:02:15,760 Speaker 1: only thing I know. So this is normal to me, 43 00:02:16,560 --> 00:02:18,920 Speaker 1: as not normal to a lot of other people. But 44 00:02:19,880 --> 00:02:22,280 Speaker 1: I grew up on the sidelines with I went to 45 00:02:22,320 --> 00:02:24,520 Speaker 1: my dad's practices all the time. When I was a kid, 46 00:02:24,560 --> 00:02:26,080 Speaker 1: I was running around. I was a ball boy from 47 00:02:26,080 --> 00:02:31,400 Speaker 1: Matt Stover Sam Cook when he was a rookie. So 48 00:02:31,440 --> 00:02:33,639 Speaker 1: I've just been around, and you know, it comes with 49 00:02:33,840 --> 00:02:35,720 Speaker 1: a little bit of pressure because you had to. You know, 50 00:02:35,760 --> 00:02:38,760 Speaker 1: when you're growing up, everybody expects you to be, you know, 51 00:02:39,280 --> 00:02:41,760 Speaker 1: that guy in football and all that kind of stuff. 52 00:02:41,840 --> 00:02:43,320 Speaker 1: Is supposed to be the smartest one and all this. 53 00:02:43,440 --> 00:02:46,160 Speaker 1: So it added a little bit of pressure. But you know, 54 00:02:46,240 --> 00:02:51,200 Speaker 1: to me, I expected to be here, So this is 55 00:02:51,240 --> 00:02:53,520 Speaker 1: just what I expected to be. This is all I know. 56 00:02:53,680 --> 00:02:56,839 Speaker 1: What do you remembers Maybe the coolest moment growing out? 57 00:02:58,240 --> 00:03:00,480 Speaker 1: I would say probably one of the coolest moment was 58 00:03:01,520 --> 00:03:04,720 Speaker 1: probably my relationship with Mark Sanchez when he got drafted 59 00:03:06,160 --> 00:03:08,560 Speaker 1: by my dad, was his first pick. You know, we 60 00:03:08,919 --> 00:03:11,040 Speaker 1: kind of became like he was like my older brother. 61 00:03:11,160 --> 00:03:13,240 Speaker 1: He came to a lot of my football games. Really 62 00:03:13,280 --> 00:03:15,320 Speaker 1: we had a really good relationship. So I thought that 63 00:03:15,440 --> 00:03:17,800 Speaker 1: was you know, probably one of the coolest moments of 64 00:03:18,520 --> 00:03:21,160 Speaker 1: you know, my childhood was getting to kind of be 65 00:03:21,200 --> 00:03:24,880 Speaker 1: around him and knowing him more impersonal and than just 66 00:03:24,960 --> 00:03:28,720 Speaker 1: like the whole football experiences before you getting into coaching. 67 00:03:28,840 --> 00:03:32,920 Speaker 1: Obviously you're a football player first, and and what terrific 68 00:03:32,960 --> 00:03:36,840 Speaker 1: football career you have. Just explained your college journey of 69 00:03:36,880 --> 00:03:41,040 Speaker 1: being part of one of the greatest kind of runs 70 00:03:41,040 --> 00:03:43,920 Speaker 1: there in college history at Clemson where you guys you know, 71 00:03:43,960 --> 00:03:47,320 Speaker 1: won a national championship and obviously had a ton of 72 00:03:47,360 --> 00:03:50,920 Speaker 1: success there. Just what was that experience like, you know 73 00:03:50,960 --> 00:03:54,840 Speaker 1: it was it helped me a lot too as I 74 00:03:54,920 --> 00:03:59,120 Speaker 1: prepared for my career. But you know, the experiences were unbelievable. 75 00:03:59,360 --> 00:04:01,840 Speaker 1: You know, I love I think seven games in my 76 00:04:02,000 --> 00:04:05,440 Speaker 1: career there and five of them were my first two years. 77 00:04:05,520 --> 00:04:07,840 Speaker 1: And then you know, when I started playing more and 78 00:04:08,400 --> 00:04:10,880 Speaker 1: you know, contributor and we had only two losses and 79 00:04:11,040 --> 00:04:14,280 Speaker 1: with the Shawn and like, it was unbelievable. You know, 80 00:04:14,720 --> 00:04:16,720 Speaker 1: one thing I kind of took from it was, you know, 81 00:04:17,200 --> 00:04:19,880 Speaker 1: how our team approached every single week was it was 82 00:04:20,960 --> 00:04:22,440 Speaker 1: this is the biggest game of the year. It didn't 83 00:04:22,440 --> 00:04:25,640 Speaker 1: matter who it was. And you kind of learned that 84 00:04:25,880 --> 00:04:29,840 Speaker 1: and Coachweney. I'm huge sport of Coachwine. I love coach Sweeney. 85 00:04:29,920 --> 00:04:33,960 Speaker 1: And one thing he had thousands of messages he could talk. Yeah, 86 00:04:34,320 --> 00:04:36,320 Speaker 1: but one thing that kind of always rang with me was, 87 00:04:36,400 --> 00:04:38,480 Speaker 1: you know, this is this is the biggest game of 88 00:04:38,480 --> 00:04:40,719 Speaker 1: the year. It's like and if you don't believe it, 89 00:04:41,080 --> 00:04:44,960 Speaker 1: lose it and see what happens. So is that something 90 00:04:45,000 --> 00:04:47,440 Speaker 1: that's always stuck with you? Then now that you've transitioned 91 00:04:47,440 --> 00:04:52,400 Speaker 1: to coaching, Yeah, And then just was the coaching kind 92 00:04:52,440 --> 00:04:55,200 Speaker 1: of you get done with your playing career in college? 93 00:04:55,320 --> 00:04:58,359 Speaker 1: Awesome career. Where's the ring by the way, a national 94 00:04:58,400 --> 00:05:00,840 Speaker 1: championship ring? Ye? Every just k oh, it's in safe 95 00:05:00,880 --> 00:05:03,599 Speaker 1: you ever just like throw it on sometime and it 96 00:05:03,680 --> 00:05:05,920 Speaker 1: just stays in the same And so you get done 97 00:05:05,920 --> 00:05:11,159 Speaker 1: playing and it's this coaching bug just kind of inside 98 00:05:11,240 --> 00:05:13,320 Speaker 1: you or did it develop or kind of how did 99 00:05:13,360 --> 00:05:16,440 Speaker 1: you first start getting into coaching. I would say I 100 00:05:16,480 --> 00:05:19,640 Speaker 1: probably started getting into coaching really my senior year of college. 101 00:05:20,360 --> 00:05:22,400 Speaker 1: M I kind of when I was approached by coach 102 00:05:22,520 --> 00:05:25,919 Speaker 1: Jeff Scott. He was kind of talking, you know, about 103 00:05:26,000 --> 00:05:27,560 Speaker 1: my role for the season, and I knew I was 104 00:05:27,560 --> 00:05:29,719 Speaker 1: gonna be doing what I was doing special teams wise, 105 00:05:30,080 --> 00:05:31,640 Speaker 1: and I was gonna be on the varsity for the 106 00:05:31,640 --> 00:05:35,560 Speaker 1: receivers basically as like an emergency in case just everybody 107 00:05:35,560 --> 00:05:39,320 Speaker 1: gets hurt, like you gotta play. Yeah. So you did 108 00:05:39,400 --> 00:05:41,840 Speaker 1: hold though, right, Yeah, okay, so that was my reason 109 00:05:41,839 --> 00:05:44,359 Speaker 1: why I got them. Yeah, but he kind of was 110 00:05:44,600 --> 00:05:45,800 Speaker 1: he was like, hey, you know, I kind of want 111 00:05:45,839 --> 00:05:49,160 Speaker 1: you to help out a lot with those freshmen, you know, 112 00:05:49,200 --> 00:05:50,840 Speaker 1: because they won't be able to ask me all these 113 00:05:50,920 --> 00:05:52,560 Speaker 1: questions on the field. I want you to kind of 114 00:05:52,600 --> 00:05:55,839 Speaker 1: take over some of that mentorship. And I really, you know, 115 00:05:55,839 --> 00:05:59,200 Speaker 1: I took that. So I was always talking with a 116 00:05:59,240 --> 00:06:01,040 Speaker 1: freshman like hey, this is how you want to release, 117 00:06:01,080 --> 00:06:03,040 Speaker 1: this is where the pridor, and this is why you 118 00:06:03,040 --> 00:06:07,080 Speaker 1: need to do this. That kind of started the whole 119 00:06:07,480 --> 00:06:10,040 Speaker 1: You're an extension of the coaching staff almost player coach, right, 120 00:06:10,120 --> 00:06:12,440 Speaker 1: and those guys are so valuable, and you know, we 121 00:06:12,440 --> 00:06:15,800 Speaker 1: always had talks and receiving room, and our coach was like, 122 00:06:16,040 --> 00:06:17,680 Speaker 1: every one of the person in this room is going 123 00:06:17,720 --> 00:06:19,280 Speaker 1: to be in the NFL, whether you're going to be 124 00:06:19,279 --> 00:06:21,839 Speaker 1: a player. And then he looked at me, It's like, 125 00:06:22,120 --> 00:06:25,240 Speaker 1: you know you ain't gonna play. You're gonna go, but 126 00:06:25,279 --> 00:06:27,359 Speaker 1: you ain't gonna play. It's like, yeah, I got that. 127 00:06:27,480 --> 00:06:31,719 Speaker 1: No worse. So if not coaching, what would you be 128 00:06:31,760 --> 00:06:34,880 Speaker 1: doing right now? Could you even imagine fathom? What would 129 00:06:34,880 --> 00:06:38,479 Speaker 1: you do? Your degree in parts recreation tours a management? Okay, 130 00:06:38,480 --> 00:06:42,440 Speaker 1: half my team was in that, mate, um, a love 131 00:06:42,480 --> 00:06:47,440 Speaker 1: of the outdoors or something else motivated by that motivations. 132 00:06:47,480 --> 00:06:52,080 Speaker 1: I'm going to get the degree, but I don't know. 133 00:06:52,279 --> 00:06:55,400 Speaker 1: I've really haven't had much but a backup plan. And 134 00:06:55,440 --> 00:06:59,480 Speaker 1: that's it was meant to be great and not just um, 135 00:07:00,120 --> 00:07:02,080 Speaker 1: just fortunate enough that this has worked out so far. 136 00:07:02,200 --> 00:07:04,320 Speaker 1: It's in your blood right right, It's in your blood. 137 00:07:05,000 --> 00:07:08,160 Speaker 1: So last year, your first year working with a specific 138 00:07:08,560 --> 00:07:13,000 Speaker 1: position group, just as the season went on, just how 139 00:07:13,080 --> 00:07:16,120 Speaker 1: much did you love that aspect of it being with 140 00:07:16,280 --> 00:07:19,120 Speaker 1: kind of that that that individual room and having that 141 00:07:19,200 --> 00:07:22,920 Speaker 1: room and just the fun of that. You know, it's 142 00:07:23,800 --> 00:07:26,480 Speaker 1: having a season like we did is always tough. Yeah, 143 00:07:26,520 --> 00:07:28,600 Speaker 1: but I think one of the best things about that 144 00:07:28,680 --> 00:07:32,960 Speaker 1: room is the chemistry. It didn't matter how many wins 145 00:07:33,040 --> 00:07:35,320 Speaker 1: or loss, where everybody was the same person every day, 146 00:07:36,040 --> 00:07:40,240 Speaker 1: Like you would have never noticed that we only had 147 00:07:40,280 --> 00:07:42,920 Speaker 1: three wins because everybody came in like, hey, we're gonna 148 00:07:42,920 --> 00:07:45,960 Speaker 1: get it this week. You know, everybody had a positive attitude, 149 00:07:46,400 --> 00:07:49,400 Speaker 1: went to work every single day, bust of their balls 150 00:07:49,400 --> 00:07:52,679 Speaker 1: every day, trying to get as best they possibly could 151 00:07:52,960 --> 00:07:55,520 Speaker 1: for the next game. Yeah, and that's one thing I've 152 00:07:55,520 --> 00:07:58,160 Speaker 1: always appreciated because it's not like that everywhere you go. 153 00:07:58,280 --> 00:08:01,040 Speaker 1: Guys come in. There's certain guys that have attitudes and 154 00:08:01,080 --> 00:08:03,400 Speaker 1: you know, they don't want they don't want to work 155 00:08:03,400 --> 00:08:05,360 Speaker 1: because we're not winning. When you're ow in ten. When 156 00:08:05,360 --> 00:08:07,800 Speaker 1: you're ow in ten and you know there, everyone wants 157 00:08:07,800 --> 00:08:10,400 Speaker 1: to point the finger, point the finger. But that's where 158 00:08:10,400 --> 00:08:13,760 Speaker 1: I noticed the difference between you know here and why 159 00:08:13,800 --> 00:08:15,920 Speaker 1: I think this is going to change is because nobody 160 00:08:15,960 --> 00:08:18,720 Speaker 1: pointed the finger at anybody. It was, hey, where this 161 00:08:18,840 --> 00:08:22,200 Speaker 1: is a team we did not win, not this guy 162 00:08:22,200 --> 00:08:24,240 Speaker 1: did make this play this then, and you know it 163 00:08:24,400 --> 00:08:28,160 Speaker 1: was collectively as a group, everybody's just like, all right, 164 00:08:28,160 --> 00:08:30,239 Speaker 1: we're going to the next one. And is that something 165 00:08:30,280 --> 00:08:32,800 Speaker 1: that you can point to as to why we saw 166 00:08:32,920 --> 00:08:36,000 Speaker 1: such an improvement from the first half of the year 167 00:08:36,080 --> 00:08:38,240 Speaker 1: to the second half of the year too. I mean 168 00:08:38,320 --> 00:08:40,760 Speaker 1: that the guy's having that mentality of hey, let's just 169 00:08:40,840 --> 00:08:43,880 Speaker 1: keep working and eventually this thing's going to start to click. 170 00:08:43,920 --> 00:08:46,400 Speaker 1: And we saw when Dan took over play calling and 171 00:08:46,440 --> 00:08:50,600 Speaker 1: Ben was elevated to that pass game coordinator role. Obviously 172 00:08:50,640 --> 00:08:53,040 Speaker 1: getting Josh was huge and kind of what he brought 173 00:08:53,080 --> 00:08:56,000 Speaker 1: brought to the outside. But then it just started to click, 174 00:08:56,200 --> 00:08:58,640 Speaker 1: right And it's that what you're talking about in terms 175 00:08:58,679 --> 00:09:01,120 Speaker 1: of just that that mentality. You can see it flip 176 00:09:01,160 --> 00:09:03,000 Speaker 1: and hopefully now you guys just kind of pick up 177 00:09:03,080 --> 00:09:05,720 Speaker 1: right where you left off. Yeah. Absolutely, And it's just 178 00:09:05,760 --> 00:09:07,640 Speaker 1: you know everything that coach Campbell have been preaching it 179 00:09:07,720 --> 00:09:10,160 Speaker 1: from the beginning. You know that, hey, it's gonna be 180 00:09:10,200 --> 00:09:13,080 Speaker 1: tough to you know, but we're going to keep pushing, 181 00:09:13,200 --> 00:09:16,400 Speaker 1: keep pushing. I'm gonna keep fighting every single time, and 182 00:09:16,440 --> 00:09:18,280 Speaker 1: then eventually it's I know it's going to come back 183 00:09:18,320 --> 00:09:21,679 Speaker 1: and it's gonna click, you know, because like we have 184 00:09:21,720 --> 00:09:23,959 Speaker 1: to lay the foundation first. The house ain't just built, 185 00:09:24,320 --> 00:09:26,600 Speaker 1: you know, you have to lay the all the foundation, 186 00:09:26,640 --> 00:09:29,320 Speaker 1: the concrete to get it started. And that's what we did, 187 00:09:29,760 --> 00:09:31,800 Speaker 1: and then we started to put the frame up. At 188 00:09:31,840 --> 00:09:33,960 Speaker 1: the end of the season, that's where I looked at it, like, right, 189 00:09:34,200 --> 00:09:35,679 Speaker 1: so now this year I was like, well, we got 190 00:09:35,679 --> 00:09:38,200 Speaker 1: to pick up with exactly where we left off. That's 191 00:09:38,200 --> 00:09:40,480 Speaker 1: what I think. What is it like working with Antoine 192 00:09:40,559 --> 00:09:46,080 Speaker 1: randellel Oh? He's energizing money bat Can you even match 193 00:09:46,120 --> 00:09:49,880 Speaker 1: that energy? It's gotta be tough seven cups of coffee 194 00:09:49,880 --> 00:09:52,800 Speaker 1: in the morning just to match that energy. Absolutely. But 195 00:09:53,640 --> 00:09:56,400 Speaker 1: you know one thing I'm just truly glad to be 196 00:09:56,440 --> 00:10:01,240 Speaker 1: working with him is he's always positive, always super excited 197 00:10:01,240 --> 00:10:05,920 Speaker 1: about practice meetings, just bringing tons of positive energy, which 198 00:10:06,000 --> 00:10:09,880 Speaker 1: is which is good especially and it's needed in this 199 00:10:09,960 --> 00:10:14,200 Speaker 1: situation because you don't you don't win every week, but 200 00:10:14,240 --> 00:10:16,880 Speaker 1: you don't want to come in Monday and just debbie 201 00:10:16,920 --> 00:10:19,880 Speaker 1: down are negative. You know, that makes the workplace a 202 00:10:19,920 --> 00:10:23,520 Speaker 1: lot worse and it makes it really tough and negative. 203 00:10:23,840 --> 00:10:26,480 Speaker 1: Where he comes in, it's real positive. You know that 204 00:10:27,559 --> 00:10:30,840 Speaker 1: takes more role up and you know that's I really 205 00:10:30,880 --> 00:10:34,120 Speaker 1: like working with them. So you mentioned the value and 206 00:10:34,200 --> 00:10:37,720 Speaker 1: kind of becoming that player coach at Clemson your last 207 00:10:37,800 --> 00:10:40,400 Speaker 1: year and really working with those freshmen. What do you 208 00:10:40,400 --> 00:10:43,360 Speaker 1: think it is your biggest asset to that room? Now? 209 00:10:43,400 --> 00:10:45,200 Speaker 1: What do you think you bring to the to the 210 00:10:45,240 --> 00:10:49,080 Speaker 1: table that that kind of here yeah here, Yeah, I 211 00:10:49,080 --> 00:10:53,559 Speaker 1: would say my biggest asset is I bring a lot 212 00:10:53,600 --> 00:10:57,440 Speaker 1: of experience from a very successful offense. Yeah, you know, 213 00:10:57,440 --> 00:11:01,800 Speaker 1: with very successful receivers. So I think, you know, like hey, 214 00:11:02,120 --> 00:11:03,480 Speaker 1: you know I try to talk I talk with l 215 00:11:03,720 --> 00:11:05,679 Speaker 1: you know, four meetings and stuff like, hey, this is 216 00:11:05,760 --> 00:11:07,840 Speaker 1: kind of how we did it, you know, how we 217 00:11:07,920 --> 00:11:10,520 Speaker 1: ran it this route like use this stam and all 218 00:11:10,559 --> 00:11:14,520 Speaker 1: this and Ben, you know, very similar. We come from 219 00:11:14,600 --> 00:11:19,120 Speaker 1: very similar offenses and thoughts. So I think that kind 220 00:11:19,160 --> 00:11:22,199 Speaker 1: of like helps in that regard. And you know, I've 221 00:11:22,240 --> 00:11:25,720 Speaker 1: always like in the room anytime there's any questions or 222 00:11:25,720 --> 00:11:29,120 Speaker 1: anything or you know, full try to like how can 223 00:11:29,160 --> 00:11:32,840 Speaker 1: I help the players remember it like a teaching process 224 00:11:33,080 --> 00:11:35,360 Speaker 1: or you know, if there's any questions or stump bumps, 225 00:11:35,360 --> 00:11:38,240 Speaker 1: I can know always make sure I've got the you know, 226 00:11:38,280 --> 00:11:40,960 Speaker 1: the right answer for him. That's what you know. I 227 00:11:41,000 --> 00:11:44,840 Speaker 1: think my biggest asset is Ben. You you mentioned Ben Johnson, 228 00:11:44,920 --> 00:11:49,120 Speaker 1: the new offensive coordinator. Young guy, but really bright has 229 00:11:49,160 --> 00:11:51,640 Speaker 1: got of a lot of experience working with a lot 230 00:11:51,640 --> 00:11:54,680 Speaker 1: of really talented minds in the NFL, and I guess 231 00:11:54,720 --> 00:11:58,960 Speaker 1: maybe just first impressions of him in this role, to me, 232 00:11:59,040 --> 00:12:02,760 Speaker 1: he seems like a trig teacher. Um. That's probably one. 233 00:12:02,960 --> 00:12:05,320 Speaker 1: Just a really smart guy who can relate to players 234 00:12:05,320 --> 00:12:07,840 Speaker 1: and as a good teacher. It's just how would you 235 00:12:07,880 --> 00:12:10,880 Speaker 1: describe kind of the first few months here working with 236 00:12:11,000 --> 00:12:13,560 Speaker 1: him and under his guidance of kind of establishing this 237 00:12:13,600 --> 00:12:18,079 Speaker 1: new offense here in Detroit that is extremely detailed. Everything 238 00:12:18,240 --> 00:12:21,080 Speaker 1: has a reason behind it, everything has a teaching way 239 00:12:21,120 --> 00:12:24,839 Speaker 1: to do it. Everything has built you know, off something else. 240 00:12:25,320 --> 00:12:27,920 Speaker 1: So it's like we have these six plays, they're all 241 00:12:28,040 --> 00:12:30,880 Speaker 1: from the same family. Here's the difference, here's heights. You know, 242 00:12:30,920 --> 00:12:35,400 Speaker 1: all this everything was laid out, you know, that was 243 00:12:35,400 --> 00:12:37,800 Speaker 1: like the first couple of months and it was you know, 244 00:12:38,040 --> 00:12:40,720 Speaker 1: really really detailed, and you know, it demands a lot 245 00:12:40,880 --> 00:12:44,600 Speaker 1: out of the players and as the coaches too, you know, 246 00:12:44,679 --> 00:12:46,800 Speaker 1: which you got to like that, right. I was like, 247 00:12:46,840 --> 00:12:49,520 Speaker 1: I'd rather have that, you know, I feel like we 248 00:12:49,600 --> 00:12:51,800 Speaker 1: have we have so much and we haven't scratched the 249 00:12:51,840 --> 00:12:55,840 Speaker 1: surface yet with his offense, you know, and just this, 250 00:12:56,080 --> 00:12:58,439 Speaker 1: you know, this summer and I'm like, well, I'm excited 251 00:12:58,480 --> 00:13:00,880 Speaker 1: for what we're gonna do in camp because I'm like, well, 252 00:13:00,920 --> 00:13:03,880 Speaker 1: we're just going to keep building off what we already have. Yeah, 253 00:13:03,920 --> 00:13:06,719 Speaker 1: And it's like that's where like I really like that, 254 00:13:06,800 --> 00:13:10,319 Speaker 1: and I'm like, well, each formation has ten different plays 255 00:13:10,600 --> 00:13:12,200 Speaker 1: all the same thing. We got to do the same 256 00:13:12,240 --> 00:13:15,440 Speaker 1: exact look. Yeah, like that helps. It makes it tough 257 00:13:15,480 --> 00:13:19,400 Speaker 1: for defense, you know, because you can't just you know, hey, 258 00:13:19,440 --> 00:13:21,880 Speaker 1: they're lined up here, we know coming, this is right 259 00:13:22,000 --> 00:13:24,400 Speaker 1: exactly like they do calling out play yeah, calling out 260 00:13:24,480 --> 00:13:27,079 Speaker 1: yeah right, Like, oh we do this same motion. Well 261 00:13:27,120 --> 00:13:29,680 Speaker 1: we got ten plays off that same motion for that week, 262 00:13:29,760 --> 00:13:32,320 Speaker 1: for that day. You know. That's what you know, I 263 00:13:32,400 --> 00:13:36,080 Speaker 1: really really like about this offense. That's awesome. You have 264 00:13:36,120 --> 00:13:38,880 Speaker 1: to really really really like the depth that you've got 265 00:13:38,880 --> 00:13:41,280 Speaker 1: in that wide receiver room now too. You know, I 266 00:13:41,320 --> 00:13:44,080 Speaker 1: see you smiling. Obviously, you went and get a veteran 267 00:13:44,120 --> 00:13:45,920 Speaker 1: guy in d J. Chark, right, a guy who is 268 00:13:46,000 --> 00:13:49,280 Speaker 1: a thousand yard receiver in this link in this league. 269 00:13:49,280 --> 00:13:52,480 Speaker 1: Excuse me, terrific experience, six foot four four three guy 270 00:13:52,600 --> 00:13:55,480 Speaker 1: right can get downfield, get those fifty fifty balls. And 271 00:13:55,520 --> 00:13:57,960 Speaker 1: then you get Jamo Jameson Williams. You move up in 272 00:13:57,960 --> 00:13:59,959 Speaker 1: the draft, you get him. I think it was why 273 00:14:00,360 --> 00:14:04,680 Speaker 1: four touchdowns of sixty seventy plus yards last year and 274 00:14:05,240 --> 00:14:09,040 Speaker 1: eleven of thirty plus right, that deep threat you resigned 275 00:14:09,120 --> 00:14:12,800 Speaker 1: Josh Reynolds, resigned Caliph guys who are instrumental late last 276 00:14:12,880 --> 00:14:15,040 Speaker 1: year and really helping you guys win some ball games. 277 00:14:15,040 --> 00:14:18,000 Speaker 1: And obviously Saint Brown. You just when you look at 278 00:14:18,000 --> 00:14:20,320 Speaker 1: it and you hear that, you've got to love where 279 00:14:20,320 --> 00:14:23,160 Speaker 1: that wide receiver room is just in terms of talent, 280 00:14:23,320 --> 00:14:26,400 Speaker 1: depth and the collective skill set, right, Yeah, this is 281 00:14:26,600 --> 00:14:32,280 Speaker 1: I think this is a very complimentary room. DJ he's 282 00:14:32,280 --> 00:14:36,600 Speaker 1: got size and speed. Josh is very fluid, He's got 283 00:14:36,640 --> 00:14:39,080 Speaker 1: some size. Saint is one of the best slots I 284 00:14:39,120 --> 00:14:43,440 Speaker 1: think in the league. Is tough, physical Leaf. He can 285 00:14:43,480 --> 00:14:45,480 Speaker 1: do a lot of the deep threat stuff right now, 286 00:14:45,840 --> 00:14:50,800 Speaker 1: you know, while Jamison's hurt and he's really savvy route runner, right. 287 00:14:52,080 --> 00:14:54,560 Speaker 1: And then you have Jamison Williams, who you know, we 288 00:14:54,600 --> 00:14:56,960 Speaker 1: haven't seen yet really in the NFL, but from his 289 00:14:57,040 --> 00:15:00,960 Speaker 1: college film is extremely explosive. Yeah. Tom Kennedy is a 290 00:15:01,080 --> 00:15:05,800 Speaker 1: veteran slot receiver. Q is a tough, physical, yeah, possession receiver. 291 00:15:05,920 --> 00:15:09,440 Speaker 1: TV's got some speed. Like this, every single one guy 292 00:15:09,520 --> 00:15:12,240 Speaker 1: has a certain role that builds in this offense. It 293 00:15:12,280 --> 00:15:14,640 Speaker 1: makes it very tough for coaches to make sure we 294 00:15:14,720 --> 00:15:16,800 Speaker 1: try and get all these guys the footballs because they've 295 00:15:16,800 --> 00:15:21,040 Speaker 1: all earned it and they're doing everything we're asking. So 296 00:15:21,120 --> 00:15:24,480 Speaker 1: but I think this room is going to help golf 297 00:15:24,680 --> 00:15:28,440 Speaker 1: a lot more this year, you know, because we have 298 00:15:28,640 --> 00:15:33,280 Speaker 1: more branched out, more explosive room than we did the 299 00:15:33,320 --> 00:15:36,520 Speaker 1: previous year. And then you couple that with what could 300 00:15:36,520 --> 00:15:39,880 Speaker 1: be potentially a top five offensive line. Those guys stay healthy, right, 301 00:15:40,000 --> 00:15:43,400 Speaker 1: You've got a Pro Bowl at tight end. DeAndre Swift 302 00:15:43,480 --> 00:15:45,560 Speaker 1: is one of the most explosive running backs, especially in 303 00:15:45,600 --> 00:15:48,000 Speaker 1: the passing game that this league has. It just when 304 00:15:48,040 --> 00:15:50,040 Speaker 1: you look at it collectively, Seth and I'm talking with 305 00:15:50,120 --> 00:15:53,080 Speaker 1: Seth Ryan, the assistant wide receivers coach. When you look 306 00:15:53,120 --> 00:15:56,680 Speaker 1: at this collectively, you've got to be pretty excited about 307 00:15:56,680 --> 00:15:59,280 Speaker 1: what you guys got from a skilled position standpoint, don't you. 308 00:15:59,360 --> 00:16:02,800 Speaker 1: And just how offenses coming together as a whole. Yeah, absolutely, 309 00:16:02,880 --> 00:16:04,320 Speaker 1: you know there's still a lot we got to work 310 00:16:04,360 --> 00:16:07,560 Speaker 1: on and uh, you know to where we're all clicking on, 311 00:16:07,800 --> 00:16:10,120 Speaker 1: you know, eight cylinders by the time we roll into 312 00:16:10,120 --> 00:16:13,160 Speaker 1: the first game. But yeah, having that offensive line, that 313 00:16:13,280 --> 00:16:17,400 Speaker 1: Pro Bow offers line helps a lot for just top 314 00:16:17,440 --> 00:16:21,120 Speaker 1: to bottom. Yeah, you know that's something that was you know, 315 00:16:21,240 --> 00:16:23,720 Speaker 1: not that not every team is fortunate to have where 316 00:16:23,720 --> 00:16:27,680 Speaker 1: you have two legit tackles, the best arguably the best 317 00:16:27,680 --> 00:16:30,000 Speaker 1: center in the league, and a Pro Bowl guard and 318 00:16:30,040 --> 00:16:32,360 Speaker 1: then a guy who started the Super Bowl at left 319 00:16:32,400 --> 00:16:38,000 Speaker 1: tackle who's transition. So yeah, you're like, well, you know, 320 00:16:38,120 --> 00:16:41,400 Speaker 1: you don't. It's hard. You can't find really a weakness 321 00:16:41,400 --> 00:16:44,200 Speaker 1: in that line. So it makes you well you can run, 322 00:16:44,320 --> 00:16:45,760 Speaker 1: you can what kind of runs you can do, well, 323 00:16:45,760 --> 00:16:47,160 Speaker 1: you can do all of them because you have very 324 00:16:47,200 --> 00:16:49,600 Speaker 1: first soul guards that can pull in all this you 325 00:16:49,640 --> 00:16:53,160 Speaker 1: have eure we're talking about, right, it's just everything else, 326 00:16:53,360 --> 00:16:58,000 Speaker 1: everything else opens up, and you know that helps time swift, 327 00:16:58,240 --> 00:17:02,160 Speaker 1: you know, extremely you know, dynamic, and he can do 328 00:17:02,200 --> 00:17:03,960 Speaker 1: a lot of things passing game he can do. He's 329 00:17:04,000 --> 00:17:08,440 Speaker 1: a pretty good runner as well. Jamal can power back. 330 00:17:08,560 --> 00:17:11,000 Speaker 1: They compliment each other very well. Craig Reynolds the same 331 00:17:11,320 --> 00:17:15,160 Speaker 1: same lay. Yeah, you know, it's a very complimentary room 332 00:17:15,160 --> 00:17:17,120 Speaker 1: as well. That's why I'm starting, you know that all 333 00:17:17,480 --> 00:17:19,840 Speaker 1: this offense being built. I believe in the right way 334 00:17:20,000 --> 00:17:23,480 Speaker 1: because everybody compliments each other. Jared Golf we talked to 335 00:17:23,560 --> 00:17:26,000 Speaker 1: him this offseason. Obviously you get a very close look 336 00:17:26,000 --> 00:17:28,240 Speaker 1: at it. He said, he was, you know, really comfortable 337 00:17:28,280 --> 00:17:30,560 Speaker 1: with some of the things that him and Ben got 338 00:17:30,600 --> 00:17:32,960 Speaker 1: together with this offseason kind of created some things that 339 00:17:33,240 --> 00:17:35,520 Speaker 1: he really enjoyed doing from his time and with the 340 00:17:35,600 --> 00:17:38,200 Speaker 1: Rams when when they were really successful and kind of 341 00:17:38,240 --> 00:17:41,600 Speaker 1: having some input in the offense. From from your perspective, um, 342 00:17:42,200 --> 00:17:44,080 Speaker 1: I know, from the outside looking at the open sessions, 343 00:17:44,119 --> 00:17:46,920 Speaker 1: he looked really comfortable and kind of really in control 344 00:17:47,040 --> 00:17:49,480 Speaker 1: of some of the tempo stuff and we all we 345 00:17:49,480 --> 00:17:51,159 Speaker 1: all know he could sling it. He's a number one 346 00:17:51,160 --> 00:17:54,479 Speaker 1: overall pick. But just where you think Jared Golf is 347 00:17:54,600 --> 00:17:58,160 Speaker 1: this offseason obviously comfortable now in his second year, it 348 00:17:58,200 --> 00:18:00,480 Speaker 1: looked that way to me at least. Yeah, I would 349 00:18:00,520 --> 00:18:05,679 Speaker 1: say this year Golf looks much more comfortable. He seems 350 00:18:05,760 --> 00:18:09,600 Speaker 1: much more in control. You know, last year I didn't 351 00:18:09,600 --> 00:18:12,479 Speaker 1: see that as much, But this year I see you know, 352 00:18:12,600 --> 00:18:15,199 Speaker 1: changing protections, talking, you know, getting the wide outs in 353 00:18:15,240 --> 00:18:18,840 Speaker 1: the right spots. You know, that's something that is that 354 00:18:18,840 --> 00:18:21,879 Speaker 1: I'll kind of learned from Philip Rivers, who Now Philip 355 00:18:21,960 --> 00:18:26,240 Speaker 1: was a different style, but you know, telling the receivers 356 00:18:26,240 --> 00:18:28,200 Speaker 1: all the time. Hey, you listen to the quarterback. Yeah, 357 00:18:28,240 --> 00:18:30,280 Speaker 1: I know we say one thing, but if that quarterback 358 00:18:30,320 --> 00:18:32,399 Speaker 1: tells you something else, listen to him because he's the 359 00:18:32,480 --> 00:18:34,440 Speaker 1: one throwing the ball, so you've got to make sure 360 00:18:34,520 --> 00:18:36,240 Speaker 1: you got it on the same page. Taking onus of 361 00:18:36,280 --> 00:18:38,560 Speaker 1: it. It It sounds like he really is taking onus of 362 00:18:38,920 --> 00:18:42,040 Speaker 1: every aspect of the succes and just kind of my experience, 363 00:18:42,640 --> 00:18:45,280 Speaker 1: if a quarterback likes a certain thing, he's gonna make 364 00:18:45,280 --> 00:18:47,040 Speaker 1: it work. Yeah, if it's he's like I wanted to 365 00:18:47,119 --> 00:18:49,280 Speaker 1: run him like this, it's gonna make it work. So 366 00:18:49,520 --> 00:18:51,760 Speaker 1: he kind of listening to us for something. All right, 367 00:18:51,760 --> 00:18:54,080 Speaker 1: you said something that maybe you've gone off, but it 368 00:18:54,760 --> 00:18:57,440 Speaker 1: stuck with me. I'm not gonna let it slide. You said, 369 00:18:57,840 --> 00:19:00,560 Speaker 1: I'm Monross Saint Brown one of the best slot receivers 370 00:19:00,600 --> 00:19:03,040 Speaker 1: in the NFL. That that's pretty high praise steth from 371 00:19:03,119 --> 00:19:05,480 Speaker 1: a rookie guy. And obviously we know the success he 372 00:19:05,520 --> 00:19:07,680 Speaker 1: had with the ninety catches and nine hundred yards and 373 00:19:07,720 --> 00:19:10,439 Speaker 1: the touchdowns and everything else. The six straight games with 374 00:19:10,520 --> 00:19:15,160 Speaker 1: eight plus catches, that's pretty lofty praise for a young man. 375 00:19:15,359 --> 00:19:17,040 Speaker 1: He just seems like a different kind of cat though, 376 00:19:17,119 --> 00:19:19,439 Speaker 1: right with the physicality and the work ethic and just 377 00:19:19,640 --> 00:19:22,840 Speaker 1: wanting to be great. That seems like a terrific fine 378 00:19:22,840 --> 00:19:25,479 Speaker 1: as the seventeenth wide receiver taken in the draft last year, 379 00:19:25,600 --> 00:19:29,720 Speaker 1: and couldn't agree more. I look at him just for 380 00:19:29,800 --> 00:19:31,159 Speaker 1: guys in the room, he reminds me a lot of 381 00:19:31,200 --> 00:19:34,560 Speaker 1: Kaman down with the same kind of same kind of 382 00:19:34,560 --> 00:19:40,160 Speaker 1: play style, same physicality, same work ethic. You know, they're 383 00:19:40,800 --> 00:19:43,560 Speaker 1: they're very very similar traits. Hold on, you've just excited 384 00:19:43,600 --> 00:19:46,439 Speaker 1: a lot of Lions fans out there, but they're already 385 00:19:46,440 --> 00:19:49,040 Speaker 1: excited because he is a terrific player. Yeah, I mean, 386 00:19:49,119 --> 00:19:51,520 Speaker 1: he just is the physical part of it. How much 387 00:19:51,520 --> 00:19:53,879 Speaker 1: do you love that aspect of his game? Absolutely love it. 388 00:19:54,080 --> 00:19:58,280 Speaker 1: I mean it's watching him, you know, block, you know, 389 00:19:58,600 --> 00:20:03,320 Speaker 1: diving their block, lineback. There's safeties, you know, that's that's 390 00:20:03,400 --> 00:20:07,199 Speaker 1: hard to find him. Receivers, you know, receivers you know 391 00:20:07,240 --> 00:20:10,439 Speaker 1: they'll go in block safeties, they'll do that. But like 392 00:20:10,720 --> 00:20:14,160 Speaker 1: saying's looking to take your head off, which yeah, which 393 00:20:14,600 --> 00:20:18,320 Speaker 1: you know, the whole offense really appreciates. Like lineman watching 394 00:20:18,359 --> 00:20:20,480 Speaker 1: they see it. Running backs, you know, it makes a 395 00:20:20,600 --> 00:20:22,320 Speaker 1: running back say the wall if he's gonna you know, 396 00:20:22,480 --> 00:20:25,120 Speaker 1: stick his neck out for me, I gotta make sure 397 00:20:25,119 --> 00:20:26,919 Speaker 1: I pickled this blitz so he can get the football 398 00:20:26,920 --> 00:20:30,160 Speaker 1: on third down. You know, that's it's something that's not 399 00:20:30,240 --> 00:20:33,159 Speaker 1: you know, taking lightly upstairs. And I think one of 400 00:20:33,200 --> 00:20:35,359 Speaker 1: the big reasons why we were we were having to 401 00:20:35,400 --> 00:20:37,399 Speaker 1: get him the football a lot at the end of 402 00:20:37,400 --> 00:20:40,080 Speaker 1: the year was you're watching him block like, well, I 403 00:20:40,080 --> 00:20:42,000 Speaker 1: mean he's gonna do that. We gotta get in the ball. Yeah, 404 00:20:42,440 --> 00:20:44,840 Speaker 1: And you know, I look at you know, I see 405 00:20:45,200 --> 00:20:47,520 Speaker 1: King down Jarvis and him Jarvis was the same way 406 00:20:47,560 --> 00:20:49,760 Speaker 1: as well. He was looking to you know, take a 407 00:20:49,760 --> 00:20:52,560 Speaker 1: safety's head off as well. Yeah. He just seems like 408 00:20:52,600 --> 00:20:54,920 Speaker 1: he's become he's a secure one of those security blanket 409 00:20:54,960 --> 00:20:57,040 Speaker 1: type guys. Is that the best way to describe him. 410 00:20:57,119 --> 00:20:59,120 Speaker 1: You know, the quarterbacks like to have that guy normally 411 00:20:59,200 --> 00:21:02,359 Speaker 1: to tight end right with Travis Kelsey, with Mahomes set 412 00:21:02,600 --> 00:21:05,240 Speaker 1: stuff breaks down, get in trouble, you know who's that guy. 413 00:21:05,640 --> 00:21:07,720 Speaker 1: Seems to me like like Saint can be that kind 414 00:21:07,760 --> 00:21:10,200 Speaker 1: of guy because as a quarterback, you can always expect 415 00:21:10,280 --> 00:21:12,400 Speaker 1: him to be in the right spot, right, He's tough 416 00:21:12,560 --> 00:21:15,000 Speaker 1: and he just finds a way to make a play. Yeah, 417 00:21:15,040 --> 00:21:20,080 Speaker 1: And I couldn't agree more. Like to me, that slave 418 00:21:20,119 --> 00:21:23,159 Speaker 1: receiver has gotta be gotta be that Wes Welker was 419 00:21:23,240 --> 00:21:26,240 Speaker 1: that with Tom Brady saying with Edelman, you know they're 420 00:21:26,240 --> 00:21:29,399 Speaker 1: always always open, or even if they're not, quarterback is 421 00:21:29,400 --> 00:21:30,680 Speaker 1: going to throw it to him because he trust that 422 00:21:30,720 --> 00:21:33,560 Speaker 1: he's going to make the play. I see that was saying, 423 00:21:34,000 --> 00:21:36,680 Speaker 1: he's he's third down, I know I got this route 424 00:21:36,720 --> 00:21:38,480 Speaker 1: to Saint. I'm just gonna find a way to get 425 00:21:38,520 --> 00:21:40,000 Speaker 1: in the ball because he's gonna make the play for him. 426 00:21:40,280 --> 00:21:44,520 Speaker 1: How much has the added speed on the outside how 427 00:21:44,640 --> 00:21:46,680 Speaker 1: much is that a different maker for your offense? To 428 00:21:46,760 --> 00:21:49,240 Speaker 1: talk about Chark with with the four three in the size. 429 00:21:49,280 --> 00:21:52,719 Speaker 1: And then obviously Jamison Williams, who I asked after he's drafted, 430 00:21:52,800 --> 00:21:54,879 Speaker 1: he obviously couldn't run at the combine, but I asked him, hey, 431 00:21:54,920 --> 00:21:56,400 Speaker 1: if you would have ran at the combine, what would 432 00:21:56,400 --> 00:21:58,639 Speaker 1: you have wrote without a break? He's like, oh, I 433 00:21:58,680 --> 00:22:00,600 Speaker 1: would have set the record. But when you watch on 434 00:22:00,920 --> 00:22:03,399 Speaker 1: tape that that speed is real, it's just what is 435 00:22:03,440 --> 00:22:05,800 Speaker 1: that speed on the outside? How much it is that 436 00:22:05,880 --> 00:22:08,600 Speaker 1: a difference maker for you guys? Offensively? It is a 437 00:22:08,800 --> 00:22:11,840 Speaker 1: huge difference maker because you have to tell, like to us, 438 00:22:11,880 --> 00:22:13,439 Speaker 1: if you put them on the outside and it's one 439 00:22:13,480 --> 00:22:15,320 Speaker 1: on one, I'm like well it's going to him. You 440 00:22:15,400 --> 00:22:17,760 Speaker 1: want to dictate the coverage. Somebody's going to play over 441 00:22:17,800 --> 00:22:20,520 Speaker 1: the top of them because they're scared that he's going 442 00:22:20,600 --> 00:22:23,240 Speaker 1: to run by them. You watch guys like Tyree Hill. 443 00:22:23,400 --> 00:22:25,800 Speaker 1: They always get cut in some form of cover two 444 00:22:25,880 --> 00:22:28,080 Speaker 1: over the top of them because they're afraid of that speed. 445 00:22:28,600 --> 00:22:32,440 Speaker 1: It It makes it tough for defenses, especially with the 446 00:22:32,480 --> 00:22:34,280 Speaker 1: way we run the football. So I'm like, well, if 447 00:22:34,320 --> 00:22:36,160 Speaker 1: he's playing the boundary and they got covered two, well 448 00:22:36,160 --> 00:22:37,800 Speaker 1: we can throw up, we can run it. Yeah, you 449 00:22:37,840 --> 00:22:39,879 Speaker 1: know that's what That's what you try to do as 450 00:22:39,880 --> 00:22:42,680 Speaker 1: an offense is how can we dictate their coverage? And 451 00:22:42,800 --> 00:22:46,680 Speaker 1: I think that opens up because now somebody else is 452 00:22:46,720 --> 00:22:48,119 Speaker 1: going to be open because they don't get all the 453 00:22:48,160 --> 00:22:50,880 Speaker 1: coverage if it's rolled over to him, roll over the DJ. 454 00:22:51,440 --> 00:22:53,920 Speaker 1: That's what you try. That's what we were trying to 455 00:22:53,960 --> 00:22:55,800 Speaker 1: build with this offense. And it seems to me like 456 00:22:55,880 --> 00:22:58,199 Speaker 1: you've got those other pieces that can step up, right. 457 00:22:58,320 --> 00:23:00,600 Speaker 1: I mean, if the coverage is roll over to DJ 458 00:23:00,800 --> 00:23:03,359 Speaker 1: or JMO, You've got Saint Brown who can win a 459 00:23:03,440 --> 00:23:06,200 Speaker 1: one on one matchup. You've got t J. Hockinson, a 460 00:23:06,240 --> 00:23:08,439 Speaker 1: Pro Bowl Titan who can win a one on one matchup. 461 00:23:08,480 --> 00:23:10,760 Speaker 1: DeAndre Swift is a tear in the passing game in 462 00:23:10,760 --> 00:23:13,480 Speaker 1: the middle match up against a linebacker, good luck. Yeah. 463 00:23:13,720 --> 00:23:15,840 Speaker 1: And so it just seems like you guys really are 464 00:23:15,920 --> 00:23:18,520 Speaker 1: in a position now because of that speed to maybe 465 00:23:18,640 --> 00:23:21,040 Speaker 1: dictate what you can do with one on one matchups 466 00:23:21,080 --> 00:23:24,239 Speaker 1: and really use that to your benefit. That's what we're 467 00:23:24,280 --> 00:23:26,760 Speaker 1: trying to do. And you know, for us, the challenges 468 00:23:26,880 --> 00:23:30,000 Speaker 1: you know, on the outside when you get one on one, like, hey, 469 00:23:30,600 --> 00:23:32,879 Speaker 1: you gotta win, like this is this is what you 470 00:23:33,000 --> 00:23:35,720 Speaker 1: dream of, you know, is what you want. You want 471 00:23:35,800 --> 00:23:39,879 Speaker 1: this kind of coverage. And as a receiver, you know, 472 00:23:39,920 --> 00:23:42,679 Speaker 1: as a former receiver, I was like, I I was like, well, 473 00:23:42,680 --> 00:23:44,359 Speaker 1: if you're gonna play with one on one, like, I 474 00:23:44,480 --> 00:23:46,720 Speaker 1: gotta win that eighty percent of the time. Yeah, you 475 00:23:46,800 --> 00:23:49,080 Speaker 1: know that's my goal. I gotta one one hundred percent 476 00:23:49,119 --> 00:23:51,960 Speaker 1: at the time because it's disrespect that you've got to 477 00:23:51,960 --> 00:23:54,240 Speaker 1: play some kind of coverage to me. You know. So 478 00:23:54,920 --> 00:23:56,560 Speaker 1: I think if you have that kind of battle, that 479 00:23:56,640 --> 00:23:58,880 Speaker 1: kind of competitive edge, I think it makes a huge 480 00:23:58,920 --> 00:24:01,479 Speaker 1: difference for us as an offense. You know, one thing 481 00:24:01,520 --> 00:24:04,159 Speaker 1: I've noticed and and TJ's done it, you know, obviously 482 00:24:04,280 --> 00:24:06,520 Speaker 1: the first few years he's been here. But I noticed 483 00:24:06,520 --> 00:24:09,600 Speaker 1: the spring you guys kind of standing him up, aligning 484 00:24:09,680 --> 00:24:12,520 Speaker 1: him outside a lot more, kind of a lot more 485 00:24:12,880 --> 00:24:16,040 Speaker 1: um motions and kind of moving guys around. It is 486 00:24:16,080 --> 00:24:18,879 Speaker 1: that part of the offense here that's that's been added, 487 00:24:18,960 --> 00:24:20,879 Speaker 1: just being a little bit more versatile with guys. And 488 00:24:21,119 --> 00:24:23,240 Speaker 1: how un important is it for your receivers to know 489 00:24:23,520 --> 00:24:26,120 Speaker 1: all those spots, the Z, the AX. Why all those 490 00:24:26,400 --> 00:24:30,040 Speaker 1: different positions, um, I say, no, one for receiver standpoint 491 00:24:30,080 --> 00:24:33,000 Speaker 1: known all three positions. It is extremely important. There is 492 00:24:33,040 --> 00:24:34,919 Speaker 1: not one guy that should be playing just one position, 493 00:24:35,119 --> 00:24:38,040 Speaker 1: saying played all four, he played three wid positions, he 494 00:24:38,119 --> 00:24:40,480 Speaker 1: played the Y and he played the back last year. 495 00:24:40,880 --> 00:24:43,640 Speaker 1: You have to know the entire offense because at any 496 00:24:43,760 --> 00:24:46,359 Speaker 1: time you can play any one of those positions for 497 00:24:46,520 --> 00:24:50,720 Speaker 1: something like for lum on game day, if we lose DJ, 498 00:24:51,160 --> 00:24:52,880 Speaker 1: somebody else has gotta go play the X. One else 499 00:24:52,880 --> 00:24:55,320 Speaker 1: gotta go play the Z. You know we lose, saying, 500 00:24:55,440 --> 00:24:58,920 Speaker 1: somebody has to go play the slot like you, somebody's 501 00:24:58,960 --> 00:25:00,639 Speaker 1: got to got to know all these spots. That's the 502 00:25:00,680 --> 00:25:02,960 Speaker 1: only way to get in. You only dress five guys. 503 00:25:03,520 --> 00:25:06,040 Speaker 1: You got your three starters I was like, well, those 504 00:25:06,080 --> 00:25:07,919 Speaker 1: four and five got to help on teams and they 505 00:25:07,960 --> 00:25:09,639 Speaker 1: got to know all three positions because any one of 506 00:25:09,680 --> 00:25:11,879 Speaker 1: those guys, you know, you gotta be able to step in, 507 00:25:12,400 --> 00:25:15,359 Speaker 1: step up in case something happens. Is TJ can TJ. 508 00:25:15,720 --> 00:25:18,520 Speaker 1: Does he have that skill set that he can stand 509 00:25:18,640 --> 00:25:21,920 Speaker 1: up and do some of those things? Yea? And how 510 00:25:22,080 --> 00:25:24,359 Speaker 1: advantageous is it to have a tight end like that 511 00:25:24,520 --> 00:25:26,800 Speaker 1: that can not only play in line and can block, 512 00:25:27,240 --> 00:25:31,119 Speaker 1: you know, but can also be kind of that receiving threat. Allah, 513 00:25:31,200 --> 00:25:34,680 Speaker 1: the Wallers, Kelsey's, you know, pits of the leagues. He 514 00:25:34,800 --> 00:25:37,159 Speaker 1: seems to be like he's in that category and it 515 00:25:37,240 --> 00:25:38,840 Speaker 1: could be fun if he gets a lot more single 516 00:25:38,880 --> 00:25:41,080 Speaker 1: coverage than he did last year too. Oh yeah, you know, 517 00:25:42,000 --> 00:25:45,840 Speaker 1: I think he has a very unique skill set. There's 518 00:25:45,880 --> 00:25:48,399 Speaker 1: not many tight ends that are really that have value. 519 00:25:48,440 --> 00:25:54,359 Speaker 1: Like you mentioned the the Kelsey's, the the Kittles, Wallers Pits, 520 00:25:54,440 --> 00:25:56,160 Speaker 1: you know, they all have those kind of very similar 521 00:25:56,200 --> 00:25:59,040 Speaker 1: skill sets. And I think he, you know, can be 522 00:25:59,160 --> 00:26:02,520 Speaker 1: in that category because of his skills. And yeah, he 523 00:26:02,600 --> 00:26:04,280 Speaker 1: should be thinking the same way receiver does. If I 524 00:26:04,320 --> 00:26:06,560 Speaker 1: get one on one, you know, I should win that 525 00:26:06,960 --> 00:26:10,320 Speaker 1: every time. The depth that you have at wide receiver. 526 00:26:10,480 --> 00:26:12,960 Speaker 1: We talked about it. But two guys specifically who I thought, 527 00:26:13,119 --> 00:26:15,719 Speaker 1: you know, had pretty good springs. Quintez Cephiss, third year 528 00:26:15,760 --> 00:26:18,760 Speaker 1: guy who unfortunately was having a terrific start to last year, 529 00:26:18,960 --> 00:26:21,320 Speaker 1: hurt the collar born in Minnesota week five and you 530 00:26:21,440 --> 00:26:23,920 Speaker 1: kind of lost him. And Trinity Benson, a guy you 531 00:26:24,040 --> 00:26:28,000 Speaker 1: traded for right before the season started, but admittedly kind 532 00:26:28,040 --> 00:26:30,360 Speaker 1: of dumped a lot on his plate. It was more 533 00:26:30,800 --> 00:26:34,520 Speaker 1: thinking than playing, and as you know, you just slow down. 534 00:26:34,680 --> 00:26:36,480 Speaker 1: You can't go out there and play fast when that's 535 00:26:36,520 --> 00:26:38,320 Speaker 1: the case. But two guys who I thought had a 536 00:26:38,359 --> 00:26:41,560 Speaker 1: pretty good spring, and now you're talking about you know, 537 00:26:41,640 --> 00:26:43,120 Speaker 1: when you look at the depth in that room, maybe 538 00:26:43,200 --> 00:26:45,920 Speaker 1: number six, number seven first, that should make you smile 539 00:26:46,000 --> 00:26:48,240 Speaker 1: that guys like that are that far down in the depth. 540 00:26:48,320 --> 00:26:50,720 Speaker 1: But but just how much are you looking forward to 541 00:26:50,960 --> 00:26:54,320 Speaker 1: the competition there and maybe speaking specifically to those two 542 00:26:54,400 --> 00:26:57,440 Speaker 1: guys and the opportunity they have to maybe kind of 543 00:26:57,640 --> 00:27:00,280 Speaker 1: seize one of those those last spots in that room. 544 00:27:00,480 --> 00:27:03,440 Speaker 1: I mean, I'm very excited for the competition. You know, 545 00:27:03,520 --> 00:27:05,359 Speaker 1: I think competition brings out the best in people, and 546 00:27:05,400 --> 00:27:09,520 Speaker 1: it also brings out the worst. So for me, if 547 00:27:09,600 --> 00:27:13,120 Speaker 1: somebody doesn't feel secure in their spot, but they come 548 00:27:13,160 --> 00:27:16,000 Speaker 1: out and they work even harder, work harder, Like all right, cool, 549 00:27:16,040 --> 00:27:17,920 Speaker 1: we're gonna get the best player out of this, and 550 00:27:18,040 --> 00:27:22,000 Speaker 1: he'll be ready for game one, you know, very philly. 551 00:27:22,560 --> 00:27:24,680 Speaker 1: If he looks at competition and he's like and he 552 00:27:24,840 --> 00:27:26,680 Speaker 1: just gives a negative attitude, I'm like, well, that's not 553 00:27:26,760 --> 00:27:29,160 Speaker 1: the guy we want. Yeah, you know, I don't see 554 00:27:29,200 --> 00:27:31,920 Speaker 1: that with either one of our guys, with Q or TV, 555 00:27:32,440 --> 00:27:35,359 Speaker 1: I think that it's nothing but help them. I think 556 00:27:35,440 --> 00:27:38,119 Speaker 1: Trinity has made a huge improvement from last year. I 557 00:27:38,200 --> 00:27:40,560 Speaker 1: think he was probably when me and I looked at it, 558 00:27:40,880 --> 00:27:43,760 Speaker 1: probably the most improved from year one of year two, 559 00:27:43,840 --> 00:27:47,760 Speaker 1: just from the spring. Yeah, because he looks you know, 560 00:27:47,880 --> 00:27:51,239 Speaker 1: night and day different, Yes, faster, you know, getting out 561 00:27:51,240 --> 00:27:53,639 Speaker 1: of his routes. He's not thinking as much as he was. 562 00:27:54,440 --> 00:27:56,960 Speaker 1: So you know, I'm excited to see him in training 563 00:27:57,000 --> 00:27:59,840 Speaker 1: cable when the pads come on. I think Q has 564 00:28:00,040 --> 00:28:03,080 Speaker 1: always been better in pass than he is in shorts, 565 00:28:03,080 --> 00:28:05,240 Speaker 1: and he looked good this, you know, in shorts, this 566 00:28:05,480 --> 00:28:08,320 Speaker 1: you know, OTA's and stuff. So because he's a more 567 00:28:08,400 --> 00:28:11,920 Speaker 1: physical guy. Yeah, you know, but one thing you know 568 00:28:12,480 --> 00:28:15,200 Speaker 1: Q can make some plays on the outside. Yeah, so 569 00:28:15,480 --> 00:28:17,280 Speaker 1: you know he makes them. And we saw it early 570 00:28:17,400 --> 00:28:19,240 Speaker 1: last year. We saw his rookie when he our seventeen 571 00:28:19,280 --> 00:28:23,240 Speaker 1: point five yards per Yeah, you know Q is. I 572 00:28:23,280 --> 00:28:26,119 Speaker 1: would say, like, he's very sneaky fast because at forty 573 00:28:26,160 --> 00:28:29,000 Speaker 1: that he ran at the combine, it hurt. It hurt 574 00:28:29,040 --> 00:28:32,080 Speaker 1: his draft stop. But I remember watching him when he 575 00:28:32,200 --> 00:28:34,920 Speaker 1: was at Wisconsin and I did not think he was 576 00:28:34,960 --> 00:28:37,200 Speaker 1: as slow. I thought he played a lot faster than that. Yeah, 577 00:28:37,720 --> 00:28:39,880 Speaker 1: so that was kind of a shock to me. But 578 00:28:40,080 --> 00:28:42,840 Speaker 1: whenever when I came over here and I started watching 579 00:28:42,880 --> 00:28:45,080 Speaker 1: this film, I was like eighty seven. I was like, 580 00:28:45,160 --> 00:28:47,720 Speaker 1: that's quintest fist And I'm like, oh wow, yeah, he 581 00:28:47,800 --> 00:28:50,160 Speaker 1: looks he looks much faster than what he ran, And 582 00:28:50,280 --> 00:28:54,479 Speaker 1: that's I'd rather have that. There's there is a difference 583 00:28:54,560 --> 00:28:58,840 Speaker 1: between tracks like you know, forty speed and game speed, 584 00:28:58,960 --> 00:29:02,000 Speaker 1: right and bus speed. I guess how would you easily 585 00:29:02,080 --> 00:29:04,400 Speaker 1: explain the difference to that. I mean, some guys maybe 586 00:29:04,480 --> 00:29:07,920 Speaker 1: just don't aren't trained to run a straight line. Well, 587 00:29:08,040 --> 00:29:09,680 Speaker 1: but when you put him in pads, when you have 588 00:29:09,760 --> 00:29:12,480 Speaker 1: eleven guys chasing them, when they get it and they 589 00:29:12,560 --> 00:29:14,240 Speaker 1: know they just need a step to go. Some guys 590 00:29:14,320 --> 00:29:16,680 Speaker 1: just have that gear, right, and is Quintest one of 591 00:29:16,720 --> 00:29:20,840 Speaker 1: those guys. He's you know, he's got game speed. You know, 592 00:29:20,920 --> 00:29:24,360 Speaker 1: he looks better faster in games. He was still separating 593 00:29:24,440 --> 00:29:27,600 Speaker 1: downfield about his rookie year. Yeah, like he said, seventeen 594 00:29:27,680 --> 00:29:31,080 Speaker 1: yards per catch than he wasn't at forty, Like I 595 00:29:31,160 --> 00:29:36,800 Speaker 1: look at the forty as verification. Okay, Like, okay, I 596 00:29:36,960 --> 00:29:40,360 Speaker 1: see what I saw him film, or I'm like, oh, 597 00:29:40,640 --> 00:29:42,400 Speaker 1: he looks faster on the film than he does in 598 00:29:42,440 --> 00:29:44,120 Speaker 1: the forty. All right, well you know what I'm gonna 599 00:29:44,160 --> 00:29:46,000 Speaker 1: off the film? Yeah, I was there on the side 600 00:29:46,000 --> 00:29:49,240 Speaker 1: of looking into the film if he you know, looks 601 00:29:49,280 --> 00:29:51,600 Speaker 1: real slow and then runs a four to three the 602 00:29:51,680 --> 00:29:53,640 Speaker 1: fourth of Like, all right, something's not right, you know, 603 00:29:53,760 --> 00:29:56,960 Speaker 1: maybe he's thinking too much. You know, That's how I 604 00:29:57,000 --> 00:30:01,200 Speaker 1: see it. Gotcha. So before we finish up here, you 605 00:30:01,280 --> 00:30:06,560 Speaker 1: obviously seem very excited about everything with this wide receiver group, 606 00:30:06,640 --> 00:30:10,160 Speaker 1: talent depth, everything else. Just how good can this room 607 00:30:10,200 --> 00:30:13,440 Speaker 1: be if they stay healthy? You guys stay healthy upfront, right, 608 00:30:13,720 --> 00:30:18,440 Speaker 1: and this offense kind of develops and forms through training 609 00:30:18,520 --> 00:30:20,960 Speaker 1: camp the way you hope it does. Just just how 610 00:30:21,040 --> 00:30:23,800 Speaker 1: explosive can that room be and just how much fun 611 00:30:23,920 --> 00:30:27,040 Speaker 1: can this team be to watch offensively? You know, come 612 00:30:27,120 --> 00:30:29,239 Speaker 1: week one, week two, first month of season, I think 613 00:30:29,280 --> 00:30:31,320 Speaker 1: this offense will be a lot much more, much more 614 00:30:31,400 --> 00:30:34,920 Speaker 1: fun to watch. Um. I think we're going to use 615 00:30:35,000 --> 00:30:38,520 Speaker 1: our guys to their best stabilities. What do they do best? 616 00:30:38,600 --> 00:30:40,280 Speaker 1: What are these what are the routes that these guys 617 00:30:40,440 --> 00:30:43,480 Speaker 1: run best? And use them that way. It's a lot 618 00:30:43,520 --> 00:30:47,200 Speaker 1: of what we did at the Chargers. Well what is w' 619 00:30:47,240 --> 00:30:49,920 Speaker 1: working out as top five routes? Well, these are his 620 00:30:49,960 --> 00:30:51,840 Speaker 1: top five? Okay, how can we get those on each 621 00:30:52,280 --> 00:30:54,760 Speaker 1: each play? And the same way we're doing it here. 622 00:30:55,160 --> 00:30:57,239 Speaker 1: You know, where do they run best? Let's get them 623 00:30:57,280 --> 00:31:00,280 Speaker 1: on these routes. Yeah, you know, I think this can 624 00:31:00,360 --> 00:31:03,120 Speaker 1: be a much more explosive offense. And last year a 625 00:31:03,200 --> 00:31:04,720 Speaker 1: lot of the stuff that you know we were doing 626 00:31:04,840 --> 00:31:07,760 Speaker 1: were we weren't taking down field chances. And I think 627 00:31:08,040 --> 00:31:11,560 Speaker 1: one of our focuses this offseason, you know, under ben 628 00:31:11,680 --> 00:31:13,600 Speaker 1: As we got to be more explosive. We've got to 629 00:31:13,600 --> 00:31:15,520 Speaker 1: be more explosive if we want to be a top 630 00:31:15,600 --> 00:31:18,240 Speaker 1: ten offense, you know, that's what that's what we want 631 00:31:18,280 --> 00:31:20,680 Speaker 1: to be. You know, every every team in the NFL 632 00:31:20,760 --> 00:31:22,600 Speaker 1: wants to be in those top five. It was top ten, 633 00:31:23,120 --> 00:31:24,440 Speaker 1: you know. I think we have that chance, you know, 634 00:31:25,320 --> 00:31:27,280 Speaker 1: but again, we still got a lot of work to 635 00:31:27,400 --> 00:31:30,320 Speaker 1: this camp. I know you guys are excited to hear 636 00:31:30,440 --> 00:31:33,600 Speaker 1: that just more explosive downfield. It should be fun running 637 00:31:33,640 --> 00:31:36,280 Speaker 1: the football. That's a fun, fun wide receiver group. I 638 00:31:36,360 --> 00:31:37,960 Speaker 1: know it's one of the groups I'll be looking forward 639 00:31:37,960 --> 00:31:41,280 Speaker 1: to watching come training camp. SETH really appreciate you joining 640 00:31:41,360 --> 00:31:43,600 Speaker 1: the pod. That was great stuff. We'll be back with 641 00:31:43,680 --> 00:31:44,440 Speaker 1: you guys next week.