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Speaker 1: Anna Rada Dial Good lady. Her book is called Heal
Speaker 1: Your Ancestral Roots. Anna, welcome to the program. Thank you, George,
Speaker 1: thank you for having me on your show. You have
Speaker 1: the longest name I've ever tried to pronounce, by the way. Yes, yes,
Speaker 1: it's both my last name, my husband's last name, and
Speaker 1: a long first name as well. You are. It started
Speaker 1: off in economics. You have a PhD in economics. How
Speaker 1: did you get involved in transformational work. Well, it wasn't
Speaker 1: It wasn't a linear path, and I think at some
Speaker 1: level it was meant to happen, because when it did,
Speaker 1: it happened in a very very traumatic way. I had
Speaker 1: a health problem and I had to go in to
Speaker 1: the ear, and you know, I came out thinking this
Speaker 1: is it. Get back to my life as usual. But
Speaker 1: then one night out of nowhere, I had to go
Speaker 1: back into the ear and I remember feeling really scared
Speaker 1: at that time. Did you think you know, I thought,
Speaker 1: I don't know what's happening, but I didn't have this
Speaker 1: feeling like that feeling of despair. But when I had
Speaker 1: to go in the third time, that's when I started
Speaker 1: to feel like the sense of despair sweeping over me.
Speaker 1: You know, Am I gonna get come out? Am I
Speaker 1: gonna be okay? And I could tell from the doctors
Speaker 1: around me that they didn't really know what was going on.
Speaker 1: But I had a very dear friend and she was
Speaker 1: into alternative methods of healing, and she came to see
Speaker 1: me in the hospital and she held my hand and
Speaker 1: she looked at me and she said, how many times
Speaker 1: are you going to go through this? What is it
Speaker 1: going to take you to change? And her words still
Speaker 1: ring in my ears today, And I literally wheeled myself
Speaker 1: out of the hospital. And that's when I started to
Speaker 1: explore alternative methods of healing. Well, she convinced you were
Speaker 1: doing this to yourself. She she had this amazing Chinese
Speaker 1: medicine doctor that she knew and she had been talking
Speaker 1: about him for a long time. And when I started
Speaker 1: to get sick when I went into the ear the
Speaker 1: first time, when I went in a second time, she
Speaker 1: was like, you need to go see him, and I
Speaker 1: was like, no, no, no, I'm going to see the doctors,
Speaker 1: like I know what's going on, and you know this
Speaker 1: is just too far out. But of course you know,
Speaker 1: things make you change. You get hit on the head
Speaker 1: and you're like, what do I need to do differently?
Speaker 1: And so I found this amazing Chinese medicine doctor and
Speaker 1: I also discovered flower essences and those two things together
Speaker 1: change the trajectory of my life. And I think more
Speaker 1: important than that George, that whole incident when I look back,
Speaker 1: it showed me how important hope is in our lives.
Speaker 1: And that's what led me to do the work I
Speaker 1: do today, because I really want people to recognize that,
Speaker 1: no matter what's going on, they are never powerless. Now,
Speaker 1: the subtitle of your book on who is Release the
Speaker 1: family Patterns that hold you Back? What does that mean?
Speaker 1: It's the idea that you know how you might really
Speaker 1: sometimes want something in your life, like a relationship or
Speaker 1: personal success, professional success, a career goal, and you feel
Speaker 1: like you're doing your best, you're working your hardest at it,
Speaker 1: but something just feels stuck. It's as if what you
Speaker 1: want feels elusive despite your best efforts, and so what
Speaker 1: I want to share with people is that what you're
Speaker 1: feeling the problem you're dealing with may not have originated
Speaker 1: with you. And these are the ancestral energies that are
Speaker 1: making their presence felt, and they show up in these
Speaker 1: patterns of feeling stuck in certain areas of your life.
Speaker 1: And that's why I wrote the book, because I wanted
Speaker 1: people to have this roadmap or guide in how they
Speaker 1: could identify and release these patterns. Was it an easy
Speaker 1: transition for you want to to go from economics to
Speaker 1: where we are today? I think there's two parts to it.
Speaker 1: The first part was being an economist, you're trained to
Speaker 1: look at a problem, you're trained to search for a solution.
Speaker 1: You're looking at patterns. And so when I was starting
Speaker 1: to listen to clients and I was listening to them listening,
Speaker 1: you know, in between the lines for what they're feeling,
Speaker 1: where are these patterns showing up? What are the emotional patterns?
Speaker 1: Where have these patterns existed before? You know? Being an
Speaker 1: economist sort of laid the groundwork. It perhaps laid the
Speaker 1: seeds of what I was going to do later because
Speaker 1: I started to look for getting to the roots of
Speaker 1: the problem that people were facing. But the other challenge
Speaker 1: was the work I was doing was so far out,
Speaker 1: So for a long time, I just hit it from people.
Speaker 1: I hit it the academic world, my academic colleagues, people
Speaker 1: who knew me. I was like, I don't want anyone
Speaker 1: to find me and know what I'm doing. So it
Speaker 1: took a long time to integrate these different parts of
Speaker 1: my life. Do you think they would have freaked out
Speaker 1: if they knew what you were up to? Yes, for sure.
Speaker 1: And as the book comes out, there are people who
Speaker 1: are really getting to see what I've been doing these
Speaker 1: years who didn't know. We'll explain exactly what is an
Speaker 1: energy practitioner and transformational coach. So as an as the
Speaker 1: kind of energy practice that I do, it's you know,
Speaker 1: at some level, everything is energy, which is essentially a
Speaker 1: kind of frequency. And in the work I'm doing, I'm
Speaker 1: looking at emotions as an energetic frequency. And in terms
Speaker 1: of family, we see family as an energy field. And
Speaker 1: what is it an energy off It is the energy
Speaker 1: of unresolved emotions, things that are unresolved, and yet at
Speaker 1: the same time it is a field of ancestors, not
Speaker 1: just your parents, grandparents, but In many traditions, it's considered
Speaker 1: that this energy field goes back up to seven generations
Speaker 1: before you, and this affects you. So that's the kind
Speaker 1: of energy we're talking about, the energy of emotions, the
Speaker 1: energy of unresolved feelings, of unresolved wanting to make amends
Speaker 1: for might from what might have happened. How do you
Speaker 1: tap into this to help heal people? So, you know,
Speaker 1: the longest healing journey, George, is really from the head
Speaker 1: to the heart. Because at the intellectual level, you know,
Speaker 1: you can understand a lot of things, and you can
Speaker 1: recognize maybe you know it's say, for instance, you get
Speaker 1: angry fast, or you tend to you know, have some
Speaker 1: other issues. But then to go intellectually to shifting the
Speaker 1: emotions that are caused think that behavior or causing that
Speaker 1: response pattern, you know, whether it's stress, eating, whatever it
Speaker 1: could be. That is a really long journey, and we
Speaker 1: often don't have the tools for it. I mean, there's
Speaker 1: a lot of emphasis on meditation, mindfulness, but even then,
Speaker 1: what can we do that really supports us? And that's
Speaker 1: where I feel like I use flower essences as a
Speaker 1: heating modality, and I find those really allow for change
Speaker 1: to happen in a very gentle, gradual way, but they
Speaker 1: actually create change. Are you at liberty a new to
Speaker 1: tell us what was wrong with you? When you went
Speaker 1: in the hospital three times? Well, I had had a miscarriage,
Speaker 1: and when I had to go in a second time,
Speaker 1: the my gynecologist said, you know, something had been left inside,
Speaker 1: But in twenty five years of practicing, she had said,
Speaker 1: it had never happened before. And when I went in
Speaker 1: the third time, they really didn't know why I was
Speaker 1: in there. They couldn't tell me what was wrong because
Speaker 1: I just I was bleeding heavily, but they didn't know
Speaker 1: what was wrong. Now, with this transformational ability, how did
Speaker 1: you stop all that? Well, at that time I went
Speaker 1: to the Chinese medicine doctor and he's the one who
Speaker 1: you know, assured me that I was going to get okay.
Speaker 1: And he started me on an herbal regiment and that's
Speaker 1: when I started to heal because I was in a
Speaker 1: very fragile place, you know, from grief, from loss, from fear,
Speaker 1: for there was a lot of emotion. Was it the
Speaker 1: herbs that healed you or was it your mental ability
Speaker 1: that healed you? It started with the herbs and I
Speaker 1: started to get better. And there was also a little store.
Speaker 1: I used to drive past it on the way to
Speaker 1: and from work. And I had moved from Washington, d C.
Speaker 1: To Chicago to be with my husband to follow his career.
Speaker 1: So I had given up my own job. I had
Speaker 1: given up work that I really loved doing, so I'd
Speaker 1: lost my support network, my friends, and I'd moved and
Speaker 1: I was scaring all of these feelings of resentment, of bitterness.
Speaker 1: I was really busy because you know, as a mother,
Speaker 1: as a spouses, volunteering in the school, I was doing
Speaker 1: all of those things. But I was at some levels
Speaker 1: just really angry and unhappy. And when I walked into
Speaker 1: the store, they have these little bottles at the back
Speaker 1: of the wall, and I remember asking the woman who
Speaker 1: worked there, you know, what are these? And she asked
Speaker 1: me how I was feeling. And it was a really
Speaker 1: long time since someone had asked me or really wanted
Speaker 1: to know anything about how I was feeling. And she
Speaker 1: explained what these essences were, and when I started to
Speaker 1: take them, I started to feel this shift. I started
Speaker 1: to feel those feelings of anger of resentment, you know,
Speaker 1: start to shift. My spirits lifted. I could feel like
Speaker 1: I could engage now with my life and that what
Speaker 1: really got me hoped onto flower essences because I discovered
Speaker 1: how powerful they were. How many people do you think
Speaker 1: are walking around out there right now with a chip
Speaker 1: on their shoulder and they just they're not happy. I
Speaker 1: think a lot of us are not happy. In fact,
Speaker 1: actually there were you know research is at the University
Speaker 1: of Glasgow in Scotland and they said there are four
Speaker 1: primary emotions fear, anger, sadness, and joy. And I think
Speaker 1: a lot of times we want joy, but we're really
Speaker 1: circling in the first three by not having joy? Can
Speaker 1: you get sick? I think? So this is what I believe.
Speaker 1: And it's not just joy, it's having peace, contentment, acceptance, harmony, forgiveness, gratitude.
Speaker 1: It's a whole range of emotions. It's expanding our emotional
Speaker 1: spectrum from you know, a very narrow range to much
Speaker 1: bigger range. Do negative people bother you? I don't like
Speaker 1: to be around them, you know. I couldn't be around
Speaker 1: negative people before. It really bothered at me, but not
Speaker 1: now because I see their negativity coming out of something
Speaker 1: something that needs to be seen, needs to be expressed,
Speaker 1: so it doesn't bother me anymore. But I bet you
Speaker 1: would rather not pure around them than be. Yes, I
Speaker 1: would rather not be around them. But when I earlier,
Speaker 1: where my energy used to drop, Now I can maintain
Speaker 1: and protect my energy, and I think that's been a
Speaker 1: big shift. Give us an example of how you've been
Speaker 1: able to help people heal. And heal is not just physical,
Speaker 1: it's also mental, is it? In? In fact? Actually, because
Speaker 1: I trained in the US with Flower Essences, we don't
Speaker 1: actually say that they work at a physical level, but
Speaker 1: we can say that they work at an emotional level.
Speaker 1: And to explain actually how this works in conjunction with
Speaker 1: ancestral healing, maybe I can just share a story about
Speaker 1: a client. Sure, no name is necessary, No, and we
Speaker 1: want to know who it was. Yeah. So I had
Speaker 1: this woman, this really lovely woman, and she called me
Speaker 1: from Canada because she'd heard about my work and what
Speaker 1: I was doing. And she called me because her son
Speaker 1: had called her and said that he was going to
Speaker 1: quit his job. And she was really upset because she's
Speaker 1: she recognized that this was an ancestral pattern. She was
Speaker 1: the primary breadwinner in her family, Her two daughters were
Speaker 1: the primary breadwinners in their family, and as we talked,
Speaker 1: she realizes this pattern extended back to her mother and
Speaker 1: her grandmother, maternal grandmother. Now there's nothing wrong with a
Speaker 1: woman being a primary breadwinner, but it was that the
Speaker 1: men were not really carrying their weight in the relationship
Speaker 1: that was the issue. And as we talked, she discovered
Speaker 1: she was carrying these feelings towards you know, her father,
Speaker 1: her grandfather, her son in law, like this anger, this resentment,
Speaker 1: and also feeling of shame. So what we started to
Speaker 1: do is to shift those emotions, work with releasing them
Speaker 1: and also working with her ancestral energy field by honoring
Speaker 1: her ancestors and also stopping trying to fix her son,
Speaker 1: trying to let it go. And as she started doing
Speaker 1: the practice, as she started taking the essences, she started
Speaker 1: to shift. And as she started to do this, she
Speaker 1: became much more peaceful. And then one day her son
Speaker 1: called her and he said, Mom, I just want to
Speaker 1: let you know I'd gone back to work, and I
Speaker 1: don't know what I was thinking. I never want to
Speaker 1: do this again. Now she was thrilled, and don't get
Speaker 1: me wrong, I was thrilled, But when I heard the words,
Speaker 1: I don't know what came over me. I never want
Speaker 1: to do this again. That to me was a sign
Speaker 1: that the family energy had shifted, the pattern had shifted.
Speaker 1: And that's how powerful I feel this work can be,
Speaker 1: that people can heal their family patterns what's been going
Speaker 1: on for decades, generations. When it shifts, doesn't shift in
Speaker 1: a big way. So in the case of this young man,
Speaker 1: it shifted. He didn't he went back to work. But
Speaker 1: you know, at some level, all these shifts, they don't
Speaker 1: make a big sound. You have to notice them. It's
Speaker 1: very quiet, gradual. Sometimes it takes time to shift, depending
Speaker 1: on the extent to which you know, we underestimate the
Speaker 1: power we have. She didn't do anything, she didn't ask
Speaker 1: anyone else to change. She changed, and then the world
Speaker 1: around her changed. Fascinating How many people are practicing this?
Speaker 1: What do you mean by how many people are practicing
Speaker 1: in terms of percents? Are there many doctors like yourself
Speaker 1: or professionals like yourself? Oh gosh, I don't know. I
Speaker 1: think a long time ago, when I've got certified, I
Speaker 1: was told that they were about four hundred in the world.
Speaker 1: But I think since then it's much more. It must
Speaker 1: be much much more now. And what do you mean
Speaker 1: by discovering transgenerational patterns that might get in our way.
Speaker 1: What are they? I think when you start to notice
Speaker 1: what is sort of stuck in your life, and you
Speaker 1: look and see whether this is a pattern in your life,
Speaker 1: and then start to explore, like, who did this happen
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