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Speaker 1: Now here's a highlight from Coast to Coast AM on

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Speaker 1: iHeartRadio and welcome back to Coast to Coast George Nori

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Speaker 1: with you. We're going to try to help you today.

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Speaker 1: Are members of your family as well. Here's our guest,

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Speaker 1: Anna Rada Dial Good lady. Her book is called Heal

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Speaker 1: Your Ancestral Roots. Anna, welcome to the program. Thank you, George,

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Speaker 1: thank you for having me on your show. You have

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Speaker 1: the longest name I've ever tried to pronounce, by the way. Yes, yes,

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Speaker 1: it's both my last name, my husband's last name, and

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Speaker 1: a long first name as well. You are. It started

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Speaker 1: off in economics. You have a PhD in economics. How

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Speaker 1: did you get involved in transformational work. Well, it wasn't

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Speaker 1: It wasn't a linear path, and I think at some

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Speaker 1: level it was meant to happen, because when it did,

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Speaker 1: it happened in a very very traumatic way. I had

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Speaker 1: then one night out of nowhere, I had to go

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Speaker 1: I don't know what's happening, but I didn't have this

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Speaker 1: feeling like that feeling of despair. But when I had

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Speaker 1: to feel like the sense of despair sweeping over me.

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Speaker 1: You know, Am I gonna get come out? Am I

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Speaker 1: gonna be okay? And I could tell from the doctors

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Speaker 1: But I had a very dear friend and she was

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Speaker 1: into alternative methods of healing, and she came to see

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Speaker 1: she looked at me and she said, how many times

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Speaker 1: going to take you to change? And her words still

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Speaker 1: ring in my ears today, And I literally wheeled myself

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Speaker 1: out of the hospital. And that's when I started to

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Speaker 1: explore alternative methods of healing. Well, she convinced you were

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Speaker 1: doing this to yourself. She she had this amazing Chinese

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Speaker 1: to get sick when I went into the ear the

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Speaker 1: first time, when I went in a second time, she

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Speaker 1: was like, no, no, no, I'm going to see the doctors,

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Speaker 1: like I know what's going on, and you know this

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Speaker 1: is just too far out. But of course you know,

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Speaker 1: things make you change. You get hit on the head

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Speaker 1: and you're like, what do I need to do differently?

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Speaker 1: And so I found this amazing Chinese medicine doctor and

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Speaker 1: I also discovered flower essences and those two things together

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Speaker 1: change the trajectory of my life. And I think more

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Speaker 1: important than that George, that whole incident when I look back,

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Speaker 1: it showed me how important hope is in our lives.

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Speaker 1: And that's what led me to do the work I

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Speaker 1: do today, because I really want people to recognize that,

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Speaker 1: no matter what's going on, they are never powerless. Now,

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Speaker 1: the subtitle of your book on who is Release the

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Speaker 1: family Patterns that hold you Back? What does that mean?

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Speaker 1: It's the idea that you know how you might really

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Speaker 1: sometimes want something in your life, like a relationship or

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Speaker 1: personal success, professional success, a career goal, and you feel

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Speaker 1: like you're doing your best, you're working your hardest at it,

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Speaker 1: but something just feels stuck. It's as if what you

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Speaker 1: I want to share with people is that what you're

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Speaker 1: feeling the problem you're dealing with may not have originated

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Speaker 1: And that's why I wrote the book, because I wanted

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Speaker 1: where we are today? I think there's two parts to it.

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Speaker 1: The first part was being an economist, you're trained to

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Speaker 1: look at a problem, you're trained to search for a solution.

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Speaker 1: took a long time to integrate these different parts of

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Speaker 1: And as the book comes out, there are people who

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Speaker 1: energy practitioner and transformational coach. So as an as the

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Speaker 1: at some level, everything is energy, which is essentially a

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Speaker 1: looking at emotions as an energetic frequency. And in terms

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Speaker 1: of family, we see family as an energy field. And

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Speaker 1: what is it an energy off It is the energy

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Speaker 1: of unresolved emotions, things that are unresolved, and yet at

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Speaker 1: the same time it is a field of ancestors, not

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Speaker 1: just your parents, grandparents, but In many traditions, it's considered

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Speaker 1: the longest healing journey, George, is really from the head

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Speaker 1: tell us what was wrong with you? When you went

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Speaker 1: And it's not just joy, it's having peace, contentment, acceptance, harmony, forgiveness, gratitude.

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Speaker 1: able to help people heal. And heal is not just physical,

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Speaker 1: it's also mental, is it? In? In fact? Actually, because

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Speaker 1: And to explain actually how this works in conjunction with

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Speaker 1: let you know I'd gone back to work, and I

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Speaker 1: do this again. Now she was thrilled, and don't get

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Speaker 1: me wrong, I was thrilled, But when I heard the words,

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Speaker 1: I don't know what came over me. I never want

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Speaker 1: to do this again. That to me was a sign

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Speaker 1: that the family energy had shifted, the pattern had shifted.

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Speaker 1: And that's how powerful I feel this work can be,

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Speaker 1: that people can heal their family patterns what's been going

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Speaker 1: on for decades, generations. When it shifts, doesn't shift in

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Speaker 1: a big way. So in the case of this young man,

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Speaker 1: it shifted. He didn't he went back to work. But

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Speaker 1: you know, at some level, all these shifts, they don't

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Speaker 1: very quiet, gradual. Sometimes it takes time to shift, depending

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Speaker 1: on the extent to which you know, we underestimate the

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Speaker 1: power we have. She didn't do anything, she didn't ask

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Speaker 1: anyone else to change. She changed, and then the world

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Speaker 1: around her changed. Fascinating How many people are practicing this?

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Speaker 1: What do you mean by how many people are practicing

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Speaker 1: in terms of percents? Are there many doctors like yourself

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Speaker 1: or professionals like yourself? Oh gosh, I don't know. I

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Speaker 1: think a long time ago, when I've got certified, I

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Speaker 1: was told that they were about four hundred in the world.

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Speaker 1: But I think since then it's much more. It must

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Speaker 1: be much much more now. And what do you mean

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Speaker 1: by discovering transgenerational patterns that might get in our way.

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Speaker 1: What are they? I think when you start to notice

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Speaker 1: what is sort of stuck in your life, and you

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Speaker 1: look and see whether this is a pattern in your life,

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Speaker 1: and then start to explore, like, who did this happen

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