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Speaker 1: This is the most exciting time of the baseball season.

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Speaker 1: Great interview tomorrow with Kevin Brown. We'll get to that

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Speaker 1: in a little bit, so the podcast will still go

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Speaker 1: off as usual Tuesday, Wednesday and Thursday of this week.

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Speaker 1: You'll just see or hear us from Beautiful Kill Devil Hills,

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Speaker 3: Right, and in the spirit of where we are, Jeff,

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Speaker 3: we're gonna we're gonna elevate the team. Tim we usually

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Speaker 3: So I haven't told you this. What do you think

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Speaker 3: Sun coast, right, might be the best one, right, Sea coast, right,

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Speaker 1: That's next week, a week from tomorrow on the podcast.

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Speaker 3: Wow, but make sure you tune in for Kevin Brown tomorrow,

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Speaker 3: broadcaster for the Baltimore Orioles. Hilariously funny, so great, brilliant

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Speaker 1: Francisco Lindor hit a home run on Sunday for the Mets.

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Speaker 3: This is what makes this time so exciting, right And

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Speaker 3: We talked about them last week. Also, they they traded

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Speaker 3: So it hits off Spencer Steer's mitt. It then hits

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Speaker 2: That is very strange?

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Speaker 3: And now how weird is this The Royals beat the

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Speaker 2: That's crazy.

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Speaker 2: Okay, we've adopted them, right.

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Speaker 3: Do you remember who the the brand new pitcher, that

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Speaker 3: And last thing, Jeff Aaron Judge drew his one hundredth

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Speaker 2: Welcome back to is this a game or what we

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Speaker 1: In a movie theater in the basement of a beach

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Speaker 3: Can you give it again? I've already apologized ten times.

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Speaker 3: I've already acknowledged my guilt in this room last night.

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Speaker 3: This is why coming to the beach matters. I watched

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Speaker 3: the movie Coco for the first time. Oh you watched

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Speaker 3: I'd never seen that.

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Speaker 2: I've been telling you to watch that. Did you watch

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Speaker 1: Dad, I watched that movie. Emily was my wife. Emily

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Speaker 2: This was right when we started dating, and I went

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Speaker 1: The morning and the night before we had started watching Coco,

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Speaker 3: But and I watched it, Jeff with Carson, my four

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Speaker 3: of Nana and Pop, just my mother and father, Carson

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Speaker 3: knew that. Yeah, he's four years old.

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Speaker 1: Well, and you know, my grandmother, my dad's mom, moved

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Speaker 1: in with us when I was fifteen years old and

441
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Speaker 1: she went through dementia and Alzheimer's and that.

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Speaker 2: Story was just so it was just so emotional.

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00:23:12,520 --> 00:23:15,080
Speaker 3: It's so close to Homer year old connecting the dots

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Speaker 3: there and recognizing that Pop Pop has something to do

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Speaker 3: with this movie because his mom is Nna and his

446
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Speaker 3: dad was Pop.

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Speaker 1: How about that, Dad, I'm telling you, how many years

448
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Speaker 1: have I told you to watch that?

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Speaker 3: I know?

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Speaker 2: And I'm so glad you did.

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Speaker 3: I know we were watching it. I just they said

452
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Speaker 3: we're watching a movie. So I took over. All right,

453
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Speaker 3: you're not that.

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Speaker 2: I'm going to start Pop. I love that movie and

455
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Speaker 2: the music of the movie is great.

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Speaker 3: Okay. This day in baseball history, Chuck Klein, Philly's right fielder,

457
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Speaker 3: recorded his forty fourth outfield assist. So nineteen thirty that

458
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Speaker 3: was the first year that we had a forty forty guy.

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Speaker 3: Forty homers, forty outfield assists that no one counts those things.

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Speaker 3: But the interesting part of that, the first forty forty

461
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Speaker 3: guy in Major league history was Jose Knseko forty homers,

462
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Speaker 3: forty steals, the more traditional forty forty. And he got

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Speaker 3: to forty forty on this date in nineteen eighty eight,

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Speaker 3: So fifty eight years after Chuck kleinb became well, he

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Speaker 3: was already a forty forty guy. Jose Kinseco became the

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Speaker 3: first official forty forty guy in Major league history. And

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Speaker 3: this is amazing too, Jeff, speaking of two hundred. Okay,

468
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Speaker 3: on this date in nineteen ninety, Gary Gayetti hit his

469
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Speaker 3: two hundredth major league home run, and he hit it

470
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Speaker 3: off of Charlie Huff. Nine years four days earlier, Gary

471
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Speaker 3: Gayetti hit his first homer. And who do you think

472
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Speaker 3: he hit it off? Now, Charlie Huff.

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Speaker 2: He's got his number?

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Speaker 3: How great?

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Speaker 1: Is this?

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Speaker 2: So crazy?

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Speaker 3: Yeah? And I was at the one when he hit

478
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Speaker 3: the one off of Charlie Huffs, So that was pretty

479
00:25:00,359 --> 00:25:03,879
Speaker 3: yeah all right? And on uh this, we have a

480
00:25:03,880 --> 00:25:07,280
Speaker 3: couple of birthdays this state. In nineteen fifty two, Jim

481
00:25:07,359 --> 00:25:11,080
Speaker 3: Morrison was born. Pretty good major league infielder. He could hit.

482
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Speaker 3: Not Jim Morrison get this from the doors?

483
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Speaker 2: Yeah? Oh yeah?

484
00:25:16,000 --> 00:25:20,560
Speaker 3: How about that Pop Pop Wait to Go Dad musical reference? Yeah,

485
00:25:20,640 --> 00:25:23,119
Speaker 3: Jim Morrison loved Jim Morrison, but he's the one that

486
00:25:23,200 --> 00:25:27,760
Speaker 3: got Ambidextra's and Amphibious mixed up. So he said, oh,

487
00:25:27,800 --> 00:25:30,800
Speaker 3: that guy's amphibious. And then he I'm not sure if

488
00:25:30,800 --> 00:25:32,359
Speaker 3: he was joking, but he said I think he can

489
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Speaker 3: throw underwater, which is not the definition of right. All right.

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Speaker 3: Nineteen sixty nine, Jeff Cirillo was born really good hitter

491
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Speaker 3: for the Brewers and then for the Rockies. He was

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Speaker 3: a really good hitter. And you're if you if you

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Speaker 3: get this, I've told you this multiple times, I'll give

494
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Speaker 3: you one thousand dollars. Jeff Cirillo went to the All

495
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Speaker 3: Star Game the first time and till he got on

496
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Speaker 3: the wrong plane on the wrong plan.

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Speaker 2: He said, hey, aren't you Jeff Soirillo? He said yeah.

498
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Speaker 2: He goes, aren't you playing for the All Star Game?

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Speaker 3: And he goes yeah.

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Speaker 2: He says, well, this plane's going to New York. You

501
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Speaker 2: got to go to Cleveland.

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Speaker 3: That's exactly right, Jeff. You're actually listening to all of

503
00:26:10,480 --> 00:26:15,040
Speaker 3: my stupid stories and all you need is a brief clue.

504
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Speaker 3: All right.

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Speaker 2: Jeff Sorilla, poor Jeff Sorilla, was so excited.

506
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Speaker 1: To just get recognized on the plane.

507
00:26:21,040 --> 00:26:25,080
Speaker 2: So his highest moment was led his lowestue.

508
00:26:24,560 --> 00:26:26,840
Speaker 3: Going to the All Star Game. He goes, yeah, well

509
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Speaker 3: it's in Cleveland. This play is going to New York. Yes,

510
00:26:29,480 --> 00:26:31,720
Speaker 3: I've told that story probably too many times, I know,

511
00:26:31,840 --> 00:26:34,879
Speaker 3: but I finally locked in. You get this one. I'm

512
00:26:34,920 --> 00:26:37,119
Speaker 3: not kidding. I'm on a high right now. I remember

513
00:26:37,160 --> 00:26:39,199
Speaker 3: you left some million dollars if you can get this

514
00:26:39,320 --> 00:26:42,600
Speaker 3: phone in this story, the story I have. Nineteen sixty six,

515
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Speaker 3: Pete Harnish was born former Major league pitcher, went to Fordham,

516
00:26:48,200 --> 00:26:53,440
Speaker 3: played for the Orioles Astros, Reds, few others. Pete Harnish,

517
00:26:53,600 --> 00:26:56,080
Speaker 3: I'm going to give you a giant clue. How did

518
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Speaker 3: he earn extra money in college?

519
00:27:00,520 --> 00:27:02,639
Speaker 2: Pete Harnished? He didn't cut hair.

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00:27:03,000 --> 00:27:09,679
Speaker 3: He went to Fordam, so that's a downtown New York college.

521
00:27:09,680 --> 00:27:10,880
Speaker 2: I don't remember what he did.

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Speaker 3: Dad good, you just saved me a millillion dollars to

523
00:27:14,000 --> 00:27:17,639
Speaker 3: make extra money in college or somebody. Pete Hardish, I

524
00:27:17,720 --> 00:27:22,240
Speaker 3: love this used to appear in police lineups. Oh that's right.

525
00:27:23,320 --> 00:27:26,080
Speaker 3: So he would go in like eleven o'clock at night

526
00:27:26,240 --> 00:27:29,080
Speaker 3: and face the camera, then face the other way, as

527
00:27:29,119 --> 00:27:32,000
Speaker 3: he told me, he said, he said, thirty bucks for

528
00:27:32,200 --> 00:27:38,600
Speaker 3: regular case, fifty bucks for a murder case. Can't make

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00:27:38,640 --> 00:27:40,080
Speaker 3: this stuff up now, Yeah.

530
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Speaker 1: So it's like there's so many great side hustles. I

531
00:27:42,520 --> 00:27:45,640
Speaker 1: know my father in law he gave plasma all the time,

532
00:27:45,680 --> 00:27:47,920
Speaker 1: and he would use that as you know, money to

533
00:27:47,960 --> 00:27:50,320
Speaker 1: go join his pickleball league or whatever it might be.

534
00:27:50,720 --> 00:27:53,360
Speaker 2: Getting in a police lineup though, and maybe being wrongly

535
00:27:53,400 --> 00:27:56,480
Speaker 2: accused of murder. I don't know, I'm doing that looks

536
00:27:56,480 --> 00:27:57,359
Speaker 2: for a murder case.

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Speaker 3: I love it. It's so good. All right, Jeff, we

538
00:27:59,840 --> 00:28:02,439
Speaker 3: have a new feature we've only used once, and I

539
00:28:02,480 --> 00:28:05,520
Speaker 3: have to explain it. You know, Three Coins and a

540
00:28:05,600 --> 00:28:09,360
Speaker 3: Fountain is a famous song Steve Martin sings at others,

541
00:28:09,400 --> 00:28:12,280
Speaker 3: of course. So I was going through the bathroom at

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00:28:12,280 --> 00:28:14,439
Speaker 3: home in the basement the other day and there's a

543
00:28:14,760 --> 00:28:18,000
Speaker 3: stack of baseball cards. There must be three hundred of

544
00:28:18,040 --> 00:28:20,919
Speaker 3: them in the bathroom. So I just reached in and

545
00:28:21,000 --> 00:28:24,199
Speaker 3: picked out three. So that's the new This is the

546
00:28:24,240 --> 00:28:26,280
Speaker 3: new segment we're gonna do at least once a week.

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Speaker 2: You know what's also in that bathroom?

548
00:28:27,840 --> 00:28:28,919
Speaker 3: In the bathroom, what.

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00:28:29,240 --> 00:28:32,000
Speaker 1: Is a picture of cal Ripken's two one, three, one

550
00:28:32,040 --> 00:28:36,159
Speaker 1: three one taken on my wife's actual birthday.

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00:28:36,320 --> 00:28:37,399
Speaker 2: We learned that the hard one.

552
00:28:37,440 --> 00:28:40,360
Speaker 3: Have you told Emily that we forgot as we did

553
00:28:40,400 --> 00:28:43,520
Speaker 3: this cal Ripken podcast that she was actually born? That

554
00:28:43,720 --> 00:28:44,360
Speaker 3: was she offended.

555
00:28:44,440 --> 00:28:45,400
Speaker 2: Guess how much she cares?

556
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Speaker 1: Not as much, she said, Jeff, great, can you go

557
00:28:49,440 --> 00:28:51,240
Speaker 1: pick that up for me? I said, okay, Now she

558
00:28:51,360 --> 00:28:53,120
Speaker 1: thought it was crazy too, And then I talked to

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00:28:53,160 --> 00:28:55,280
Speaker 1: her parents about it, and they said, yeah, we were

560
00:28:55,320 --> 00:28:57,560
Speaker 1: a little occupied having twins that day.

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Speaker 2: So I understand.

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Speaker 3: Okay, understood.

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Speaker 1: And they're San Diego people. They're Tony Gwynn threw and through.

564
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Speaker 1: They're San Diego Padre fans. That's what they love.

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Speaker 3: Okay, all right. Three cards in a fountain, Jeff, Okay,

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Speaker 3: these are the These are the three that I picked out.

567
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Speaker 3: I mean, I didn't go through twenty and say, let

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Speaker 3: me pick out three that I can tell a story about.

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Speaker 3: These are the three cards I picked. Now, the first

570
00:29:19,160 --> 00:29:22,600
Speaker 3: one involves a swear word, but we're gonna have to

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Speaker 3: bleep it out. But the first one is ron Oster.

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Speaker 3: Ron Oaster was a good second baseman for the Reds

573
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Speaker 3: for several years, but one year he well, he didn't

574
00:29:32,520 --> 00:29:34,800
Speaker 3: draw a whole lot of walks. And one year he

575
00:29:34,840 --> 00:29:38,200
Speaker 3: had a really long stretch without drawing a walk, and

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Speaker 3: one of the writers went to him and said, Ron, like,

577
00:29:42,040 --> 00:29:44,080
Speaker 3: you don't walk very often. It has been X number

578
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Speaker 3: of it bats since you walked. And he looked at him,

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Speaker 3: and Ron Oster is a great dude, but he says,

580
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Speaker 3: if I wanted a walk, I would have been a

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Speaker 3: fucking postman. Pretty good comeback.

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Speaker 2: That's all right, Well, we'll bleep it out.

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Speaker 3: You get it's bleeped. Sometimes the F word must be used.

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Speaker 1: I remember when I was younger, your your second book,

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Speaker 1: What You're did your second oh four, yeah sounds right.

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00:30:09,400 --> 00:30:10,840
Speaker 3: I forget ish okay.

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00:30:10,760 --> 00:30:12,360
Speaker 1: Around two thousand and four, so I was like ten

588
00:30:12,440 --> 00:30:15,080
Speaker 1: or eleven years old, and I remember reading it and

589
00:30:15,280 --> 00:30:20,240
Speaker 1: you quoting baseball players or managers saying bad words, F words,

590
00:30:20,280 --> 00:30:22,640
Speaker 1: and so, because you're right, dad, you're a journalist.

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00:30:23,000 --> 00:30:26,760
Speaker 3: Times it is important to the sentence.

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Speaker 1: And I remember because I had never heard you curse

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Speaker 1: at that point, because.

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Speaker 3: I wasn't I was quoting somebody I know. Well, that's

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Speaker 3: what you explained to me. You said, Jeffrey, I didn't

596
00:30:36,120 --> 00:30:38,360
Speaker 3: say the word. I was quoting somebody else. Say it,

597
00:30:38,640 --> 00:30:41,560
Speaker 3: and then our dog ate your baseball glove. And then

598
00:30:41,560 --> 00:30:45,360
Speaker 3: I heard you say multiple curse words all back to

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00:30:45,400 --> 00:30:47,480
Speaker 3: back to back to bad. That was bad again. The

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Speaker 3: F word is important only like in important times like

601
00:30:52,200 --> 00:30:58,240
Speaker 3: for for for emphasis or pain, right, and nobody uses

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Speaker 3: the F word better than al Pacino better. Sometimes you

603
00:31:01,440 --> 00:31:02,320
Speaker 3: just have to use all right.

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00:31:02,280 --> 00:31:06,560
Speaker 2: Enough of that because we don't know with fingernails right, right.

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00:31:06,680 --> 00:31:08,520
Speaker 3: It's the difference.

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00:31:09,480 --> 00:31:12,880
Speaker 1: Between between winning and losing and dying.

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00:31:13,120 --> 00:31:15,080
Speaker 3: That's a great movie. It was a great speech, what

608
00:31:15,200 --> 00:31:16,240
Speaker 3: a great movie, all right.

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00:31:16,680 --> 00:31:19,880
Speaker 1: The last guy who should be just looking at him

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00:31:19,920 --> 00:31:21,720
Speaker 1: as a football coach, he didn't even look like a

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00:31:21,720 --> 00:31:22,480
Speaker 1: football coach.

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00:31:22,600 --> 00:31:26,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, I totally agree. Our second one is Dante Boschettember

613
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Speaker 3: of the Angels. That's when he started his career. Of course,

614
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Speaker 3: went on to the Rockies and had a really boy,

615
00:31:33,800 --> 00:31:35,840
Speaker 3: he had some great years with the Rockies.

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Speaker 2: Of course, he's the dad of Bobachett.

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Speaker 3: And I remember I was doing a story for Sports

618
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Speaker 3: Illustrated on Dante Bochette and I was kind of following

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Speaker 3: him around for a little while. So I said, so

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Speaker 3: can I where are you going after the game? You know,

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Speaker 3: and he goes, I'm going to a I'm going to

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Speaker 3: a matchbox car like fair, like a collector's thing, and

623
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Speaker 3: he says, of matchbox cars, it's a major league player

624
00:32:02,720 --> 00:32:04,640
Speaker 3: who just got three hits and hit a homer in

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00:32:04,680 --> 00:32:08,160
Speaker 3: a major league game and he went to a matchbox

626
00:32:08,800 --> 00:32:11,400
Speaker 3: card display and like bought a bunch of cars. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: This is refreshing because you hear stories like Dante Bishet,

628
00:32:14,600 --> 00:32:18,360
Speaker 1: great Major League baseball player, Keith Hernandez who should be

629
00:32:18,440 --> 00:32:22,520
Speaker 1: a Hall of Famer, playing stratamatic by himself like these

630
00:32:23,200 --> 00:32:25,280
Speaker 1: just because they play the game doesn't mean they aren't

631
00:32:25,320 --> 00:32:27,960
Speaker 1: as nerdy as we are when it comes to certain things.

632
00:32:27,800 --> 00:32:31,760
Speaker 3: He really personalizes these guys. But I remember more in

633
00:32:31,880 --> 00:32:34,480
Speaker 3: doing that story with Dante Bichett. This is in the

634
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Speaker 3: middle of his great years with the Rockies. He looked

635
00:32:37,360 --> 00:32:40,240
Speaker 3: at me and he was dead serious. He goes every

636
00:32:40,360 --> 00:32:43,840
Speaker 3: day that I come to the ballpark, I wonder, is

637
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Speaker 3: today the last day that I'll be able to hit

638
00:32:47,280 --> 00:32:51,160
Speaker 3: in the big leagues. That's how hard the skill is. Jeff,

639
00:32:51,440 --> 00:32:55,520
Speaker 3: And maybe this was just his defense mechanism to just

640
00:32:55,640 --> 00:32:58,880
Speaker 3: make sure he showed up and not take this for granted,

641
00:32:59,280 --> 00:33:02,640
Speaker 3: but he really believed it. Today might be the last

642
00:33:02,760 --> 00:33:05,080
Speaker 3: day that I'll be able to hit in the big league,

643
00:33:05,080 --> 00:33:07,640
Speaker 3: so I better make the best of it. Do you

644
00:33:07,680 --> 00:33:10,560
Speaker 3: really think a great NBA jump shooter ever goes to

645
00:33:10,640 --> 00:33:13,400
Speaker 3: the arena in his prime and says, boy, I hope

646
00:33:13,400 --> 00:33:16,280
Speaker 3: I can make it three tonight and nothing against NBA

647
00:33:16,360 --> 00:33:21,080
Speaker 3: three point shooters. Like nobody, very few people love basketball

648
00:33:21,120 --> 00:33:23,800
Speaker 3: as much as I do. I understand the science and

649
00:33:23,840 --> 00:33:26,520
Speaker 3: the philosophy of shooting a basketball. It's like two things

650
00:33:26,560 --> 00:33:28,920
Speaker 3: in the world I understand. But I'm telling you, the

651
00:33:29,000 --> 00:33:32,960
Speaker 3: degree of difficulty of baseball is what makes Dante Boschett

652
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Speaker 3: go to the ballpark and say, is today the last

653
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Speaker 3: day I'll be able to hit in the big league.

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Speaker 1: Who was the player who was on a really, really

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Speaker 1: bad streak and said I didn't think I was ever

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Speaker 1: going to get a hit.

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Speaker 3: I was Frank Robinson his second year in the major leagues.

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Speaker 3: Frank Robinson might be the most confident hitter I've ever

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Speaker 3: met in my life. And after one of the great

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Speaker 3: rookie years ever, he told me he was zero for

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Speaker 3: twenty five his second year, and he looked at me

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Speaker 3: and said, I didn't think I was ever going to

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Speaker 3: get another hit, And that's that's real life, right, that's

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Speaker 3: and mister president, you have no idea, right right. And

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Speaker 3: Jeff Sarilla I mentioned earlier. I loved that guy, but

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Speaker 3: he he was a little too hard on himself. And

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Speaker 3: this is a compliment, but he would go four for

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Speaker 3: five in a game, which he did more than once,

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Speaker 3: and he would fret about the out that he made.

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Speaker 3: Instead of saying, got four knocks today, he would fret,

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Speaker 3: like what happened in that fifth at bat? This is

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Speaker 3: the difference. This is why these guys are as great

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Speaker 3: as they are.

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Speaker 1: Well, that's why I felt bad for Kyle Schwarber when

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Speaker 1: he only hit four homers and and he was facing

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Speaker 1: a position player on the final one and he popped

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Speaker 1: out to the short stop.

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Speaker 2: And all he was thinking was how did I not

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Speaker 2: hit that one out of there? He hit four homers?

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Speaker 2: Shover It's okay.

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Speaker 3: Old pictures, right, all right? Speaking of real pictures, the

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Speaker 3: last one is walking Andrew Hard one of one of

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Speaker 3: my favorite pictures that I ever covered over the years,

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Speaker 3: pitched in the eighty two World Series. FA He was

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Speaker 3: a funny guy. He famously said once and I used

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Speaker 3: something like this all the time. What makes baseball is

687
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Speaker 3: you just have no idea what's going to happen next.

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Speaker 3: So he said you could sum up baseball in one word,

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Speaker 3: you never know. So people explained, well, that's actually three

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Speaker 3: words walking. Then he said, you know what I mean,

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Speaker 3: you never know. So back then we used to we

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00:35:16,600 --> 00:35:19,640
Speaker 3: used to say baseball you never know in one word.

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Speaker 3: We love it. So so Joaquin Andahar, all right, what's

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Speaker 3: the we talked about Jim Palmer earlier today? What is

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00:35:26,480 --> 00:35:29,680
Speaker 3: one of Jim Palmer's great claims to fame? Pitched fourth

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Speaker 3: almost four thousand innings and.

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Speaker 2: Never gave up a Grand Slam?

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Speaker 3: Right, Joaquin and Owhar pitched over two thousand innings, never

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Speaker 3: gave up a Grand Slam, but he hit one. Wow

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Speaker 3: about that. Gary Peters, another pitcher from way back, pitched

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Speaker 3: almost pitched two thousand innings and never gave up a

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Speaker 3: Grand Slam, but he hit one. I mean, again't, Jeff,

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Speaker 3: how did we explain that only in baseball can that happen?

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Speaker 1: You know, Dad, one day, if I continue the Baseball

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Speaker 1: podcast beyond you being here, these statistics about pictures batting

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Speaker 1: for our children are gonna be so foreign it's gonna

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Speaker 1: be I mean, what is the comparison. Dad, There is

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Speaker 1: no comparison in baseball because the game, I mean, it's

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Speaker 1: like live ball, dead ball era right the mound. That's

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Speaker 1: the old maybe the only comparison, Because in thirty forty

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Speaker 1: years from now, when I'm talking to my great grandkids

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Speaker 1: about baseball and I say, oll, you know those guys

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Speaker 1: they used to hit, I have a feeling it's gonna

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Speaker 1: come back.

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Speaker 3: I genuinely does, because I wrote a story, you know,

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Speaker 3: five years ago, four years ago, and whenever we gave

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Speaker 3: up pictures hitting and I said, I'm sorry, we're gonna

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Speaker 3: miss this because so many cool things happen in between

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Speaker 3: all the strikeouts and the non competitive at bats that

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Speaker 3: we get from pictures. We get a grand slam from

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Speaker 3: Wasaquin andwhar a grand slam from Gary Peters or oar

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Speaker 3: tolo Cologne home run. I mean those are unforgettable things.

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Speaker 1: Or an expertly crafted bunt right when a pitcher would

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Speaker 1: lay down a great sack bunt or even a bunt.

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Speaker 2: For a hit, right, it's baseball magic.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think that stuff's important. Okay, Jeff, speaking of magic,

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Speaker 3: we're on to the end of this podcast. You're from

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Speaker 3: the outer Banks in North Carolina. So I am, I

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Speaker 3: am really curious what you came up with for the

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Speaker 3: team Tim, which we will call the Team Jeff Jeff.

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Speaker 3: No matter how good or bad this is, we need

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Speaker 3: to do it because we teased it. And if you

733
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Speaker 3: teased it, I'm sure there are people all over the

734
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Speaker 3: country breathlessly waiting to see what Jeff came up with.

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Speaker 1: All right, so, Dad, I've come up with a team Jeff.

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Speaker 1: I gave you the tease that this was all about

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Speaker 1: my life in high school, and you hit the nail

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Speaker 1: on the head.

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Speaker 2: You said, that was right. It's a theater team. Now.

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Speaker 1: I started off by doing it like things at the theater,

741
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Speaker 1: in a musical, in a production, and then I quickly

742
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Speaker 1: pivoted because I couldn't find anything. So then I turned

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Speaker 1: towards the all theater production team. So each one of

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Speaker 1: these players, their names lends itself to a theater, musical

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Speaker 1: or a play. Are you ready the name of the play? So,

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Speaker 1: and I apologize if I mispronounced any Namesdad, hopefully you

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Speaker 1: can help me out with this.

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Speaker 3: I will hopefully be able to help you out.

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Speaker 2: With a catcher. Bye bye, Bertie Tebbitts.

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Speaker 3: Oh my god. Bertie Bertie Tebbitts was the one of

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Speaker 3: the he worked for the Rangers. He was a scout

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Speaker 3: for the Rangers. And you started out, yeah really, and

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Speaker 3: I got to know him really well.

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Speaker 2: This is a great start.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, fascinating man who was a really good hitter in

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Speaker 3: his day, managed in the major leagues. And this is

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00:38:44,719 --> 00:38:47,920
Speaker 3: incredibly self serving, Jeff, but he came up to me

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Speaker 3: one day. I'm in spring training. I'm wearing shorts, and

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Speaker 3: he looks at me and he goes, you gotta run

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Speaker 3: his legs like that.

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Speaker 2: And that's who said that to you. I've heard you

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Speaker 2: say that.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, no, I was I'm so honored that a guy

764
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Speaker 3: who is a scout and is looking at body types

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Speaker 3: he could tell he could tell an athlete a million

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Speaker 3: miles away, just looked at me and goes, you have

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Speaker 3: runners had Boston, that you have runner's legs. I was

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Speaker 3: so thrilled. Is look at that.

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Speaker 1: Well, the next one's gonna insult you. But there's a

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Speaker 1: reason why I had to do this, and I know

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Speaker 1: you've done it before. In Team Tim, I had to

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Speaker 1: put a third baseman as my first baseman.

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Speaker 3: He did play first base. Then it's okay, not very often,

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Speaker 3: but occasionally. I had Robert Brush, who played one game

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Speaker 3: at first base on the All Dental team.

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Speaker 1: Well, this guy is a little bit more better known

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Speaker 1: than Robert Brush. Sunday's in the Park with George Brett,

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Speaker 1: because I had him as my third baseman. All right,

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Speaker 1: And I know that's a stretch, but there's a great

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Speaker 1: musical Sundays in the Park.

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Speaker 3: We'll ask all the time, why didn't you use this

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Speaker 3: famous player? Well, I needed a first baseman or I

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Speaker 3: needed a third baseman. I'm not trying to come up

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Speaker 3: with the perfect team. I'm just trying to get someone

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Speaker 3: at each position. Okay, second base is Jose Caballero. Cabaret

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Speaker 3: Caballero stretch for sure. All Right, if you grew up

787
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Speaker 3: like I did, you would remember that Greg Caterret c

788
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Speaker 3: A D A R. E. T. Left handed pitcher, pitcher

789
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Speaker 3: in the big leagues for several years.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you could have used him on my pitching stock right,

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Speaker 1: and he had a second base Yeah I'm dead. Wait

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Speaker 1: until you see this one. Third is Hello Dolly Stark,

793
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Speaker 1: who played in the early nineteen hundreds. Dolly Stark, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: Dolly Stark, Hello, Dolly.

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Speaker 3: I love it.

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Speaker 1: What I went for shortstop and the Quizu Dad is

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Speaker 1: a Hall of fame shortstop with a great nickname, the

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Speaker 1: arguably one of the best shortstops to ever play the

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Speaker 1: game known. I mean Wizard, the Wizard, the Wizard of Oz,

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Speaker 1: Ozzy Smith, the Wizard of Oz.

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Speaker 2: Good job, Dad, Okay, we move on to my outfield.

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Speaker 1: Jesus Alou right, Jesus christ super star.

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Speaker 3: There you go. I love this Christie used Heyesu Salu

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00:41:05,800 --> 00:41:09,000
Speaker 3: thanks to Dan Patrick, like twenty times on the podcast

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Speaker 3: the last two years.

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Speaker 1: Also in the outfield, Billy Hamilton Hamilton right.

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Speaker 2: And then this one's stretch. Greasey Neil are you familiar?

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Speaker 2: He played for the Reds nineteen fifteen to nineteen twenty two.

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Speaker 3: Grease gree His name is Grease Neil, Greasey Neil Greasey

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Speaker 3: needs Grease the musical right. And then my grace is

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Speaker 3: the word my pitcher played for the Twins and others

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Speaker 3: twenty nineteen to twenty twenty two.

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Speaker 1: Sean Poppin Mary Poppins Right. A little bit of a stretch,

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Speaker 1: but that is my all theater production team.

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Speaker 3: Nat Jeff, I'm very proud of you for coming.

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Speaker 2: Up with this year I would love.

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Speaker 3: Now, where did you get the names from? Did you

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Speaker 3: just google? Is there a baseball player named Grease? How

819
00:41:51,600 --> 00:41:52,239
Speaker 3: did you do that?

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Speaker 2: Yeah?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, honestly, that's I thought of a musical first, and

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Speaker 1: then so I looked for Bertie, right, and then I

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Speaker 1: tagged on Bye Bye Bertie the.

824
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Speaker 2: Wizard of Oz.

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Speaker 3: The tebbits makes it.

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Speaker 2: I started.

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Speaker 1: I started with Ozzy Smith. I said the Wizard, the

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Speaker 1: Wizard of Oz. That makes sense. And then you know,

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Speaker 1: George Brett, Sunday's in the park with George Brett. That

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Speaker 1: came pretty quickly, right, and then Billy Hamilton, I know.

831
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Speaker 1: So it's so good and Billy Hamilton kind of too,

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Speaker 1: because there's musicals.

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Speaker 3: That have right. And on this date in lou Brock

834
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Speaker 3: broke the unofficial all time stolen base record held by

835
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Speaker 3: Billy Hamilton. Wow, so there are too, Billy Hamilton. Yes,

836
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Speaker 3: this one played in the eighteen hundreds, sliding Billy Hamilton.

837
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Speaker 3: We just don't have nick names, not that anymore yet.

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Speaker 3: But the other Billy Hamilton's play has been active in

839
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Speaker 3: the big leagues in the last few years. So yeah,

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Speaker 3: on this date it's an unofficial record because they're stolen

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Speaker 3: base back then we're not clear because he really broke

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Speaker 3: the record held by Ty Cobb. And then lou Brock,

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Speaker 3: of course, was passed by Ricky Henderson. Wait to go,

844
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Speaker 3: whatever Anderson say on base? We had a whole speech

845
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Speaker 3: planned and what did he say?

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Speaker 2: Instead?

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00:43:05,080 --> 00:43:08,160
Speaker 3: He and lou Brock wrote a speech and Ricky was

848
00:43:08,200 --> 00:43:10,799
Speaker 3: supposed to pull it out of his back pocket and

849
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Speaker 3: read the speech. And I love Ricky what a great

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Speaker 3: player he was. He held the base above his head

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00:43:18,760 --> 00:43:22,320
Speaker 3: and said today I am the greatest of all time,

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Speaker 3: which he was. And lou Brock, who lou Brock loved

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00:43:26,960 --> 00:43:30,320
Speaker 3: Ricky Henderson. They became really good friends. But lou Brock said, Ricky,

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Speaker 3: what about the speech? So what he called him after

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Speaker 3: the game?

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Speaker 2: Ricky said, sorry, I forgot amazing.

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Speaker 1: Tomorrow on the podcast, Kevin Brown, broadcaster for the Baltimore Orioles,

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Speaker 1: Syracuse Graduate.

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Speaker 3: And Jeopardy Well soon to be Jeffrey Jeopardy Champion. I

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Speaker 3: think we are going to get him a spot on

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Speaker 3: the Celebrity Jeopardy Show.

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00:43:55,239 --> 00:43:56,239
Speaker 2: I think we need to do that.

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Speaker 1: And his impression of Jim Palmer incredible. If you missed

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Speaker 1: our interview with Jim Palmer, you can look it up

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Speaker 1: on the feed because it's gonna it's gonna help you

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Speaker 1: even more if you don't know Jim Palmer's isms, right,

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Speaker 1: and we're just gonna tease.

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Speaker 3: There's a there's a quark gin in it, and it's

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Speaker 3: a name, quark Gin that is impossible to believe that

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Speaker 3: Kevin Brown and I share. There's a name, it's like

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Speaker 3: a quirk Gin, but it's it has nothing to do

872
00:44:22,840 --> 00:44:26,000
Speaker 3: with baseball except for both of us are in the game.

873
00:44:26,040 --> 00:44:26,640
Speaker 2: So perfect.

874
00:44:26,680 --> 00:44:29,360
Speaker 1: Thank you so much for listening, and thank you again

875
00:44:29,400 --> 00:44:30,760
Speaker 1: for being a part of our family.