Speaker 1: It's one am in Situate, Massachusetts and you're listening to
Speaker 1: Nightcall in Los Angeles. I'm Tess Lynch and with me
Speaker 1: are Molly Lambert and Emily Ashia and New York. I
Speaker 1: also wanted to mention that if you have any thoughts, questions, rants, ramblings,
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Speaker 1: you whatever you want to do. Um. So yeah, so
Speaker 1: this week we wanted to start by talking about which
Speaker 1: now feels like all things in our modern era, like
Speaker 1: it took place five years ago. But we wanted to
Speaker 1: just devote a little bit of time to Elon Musk's
Speaker 1: um obnoxious space adventure. Elon must space car. He launched
Speaker 1: one of his test Tesla cars into orbit around our planet,
Speaker 1: which is Earth for those of you who weren't sure
Speaker 1: about that, uh and um, and I feel like there
Speaker 1: was a lot and because of this image of the
Speaker 1: car orbiting the Earth and the guy on it, like
Speaker 1: it just feels like that was the stunt, but people
Speaker 1: are trying to insist that it was actually like a
Speaker 1: more significant rocket launch for other rocket related reasons. It
Speaker 1: was not really sure what those are. They launched like
Speaker 1: three things at once, and that was one of them.
Speaker 1: What were the others? The others are like a regular
Speaker 1: SpaceX rocket and a couple of I think one of
Speaker 1: them didn't work or maybe that was the last one. Um,
Speaker 1: but people have a very mad when you criticize SpaceX.
Speaker 1: People get so nobody to use a bro is m
Speaker 1: or like a obnoxious trollism, like nobody capes for Elon Musk,
Speaker 1: like the worst bros on the internet. They are he
Speaker 1: is their damsel and they are always coming to his
Speaker 1: rescue to make sure that nobody says anything mean about
Speaker 1: their their boy, because they're dreaming that one day they'll
Speaker 1: be able to afford here plugs and be able to
Speaker 1: launch a car into space. Yeah everybody, I mean, who
Speaker 1: who doesn't who doesn't want that? I saw some I
Speaker 1: think as I was searching for stuff about the rocket
Speaker 1: and I Twitter searched Elon Musk, and you know, people
Speaker 1: are always doing like quote pictures like a picture of
Speaker 1: him with some you know apparently brilliant quote that he said,
Speaker 1: and I'm totally paraphrasing, but it was like some story
Speaker 1: that he was telling about how like when I was
Speaker 1: a child, I was afraid of the dark until I
Speaker 1: realized that, like, the dark is just an absence of photons,
Speaker 1: and there's no reason to be scared of an absence
Speaker 1: of photon, which is just like, I if that's who
Speaker 1: you want to be in your life, It's like, that's
Speaker 1: like the most most boring future. Like it's just the
Speaker 1: most like absent of poetry, interpretation of events or something
Speaker 1: into like a Carl Sagan quote exactly. This makes me
Speaker 1: feel like I'm watching paint dry. Yeah, it's it's like, oh,
Speaker 1: did you know that the universe and the cosmos are
Speaker 1: actually more inert than you previously suspected. Great, it's all
Speaker 1: controllable and you can, you know, probably monetize all of it.
Speaker 1: You're the god of space and everything is under your
Speaker 1: control with your giant, stupid brain. Yeah, and your stupid
Speaker 1: rocket that you keep dicking into space. What would be
Speaker 1: like an exciting thing, you know, what would be a
Speaker 1: better thing than a car to launch into space to
Speaker 1: get your attention? A boat, a boat. Do you remember
Speaker 1: a while ago there was I wrote about this at Grantland.
Speaker 1: I remember that, Um, the chip tune band on a
Speaker 1: mono Gucci put a piece of pizza into orbit with
Speaker 1: a camera. Uh, this is like a while ago. It's
Speaker 1: actually kind of mesmerizing footage. It's just like on a
Speaker 1: weather balloon, so it's not really all rocket launch. Um,
Speaker 1: but they still had that kind of curved earth view
Speaker 1: with a pizza pizza with a piece of pizza floating
Speaker 1: and the pizza pizza, pizza pizza. Um, that was pretty
Speaker 1: That caught my attention. Um, But Molly, you were you
Speaker 1: You pointed out very accurately that this is like a
Speaker 1: very fifty like the whole image of the car in
Speaker 1: space is very fifties, like eighties fifties. Weird that they're
Speaker 1: simultaneously trying to get us into driverless cars and then
Speaker 1: also being like a driverless car in space. The messaging
Speaker 1: is very mixed. It's very mixed. I think there is
Speaker 1: also like there are certain people. There's like a Seinfeld
Speaker 1: episode where George Costanzas like we were promised flying cars,
Speaker 1: why don't we have flying cars yet? And I don't
Speaker 1: think I want flying cars that much. That's basically like
Speaker 1: drones that people can ride in. Well, we were also
Speaker 1: just saying as if driving is not kind of hard enough.
Speaker 1: I mean, it's already quite dangerous in case you haven't.
Speaker 1: So it's like, well, let's take too dangerous things and
Speaker 1: combine them into a fantasy of like road rage in
Speaker 1: the air, like all these drones, Like you know, you're
Speaker 1: dodging drones like their squirrels on the road. I will
Speaker 1: also say that my boyfriend got kicked off Twitter recently
Speaker 1: for an old tweet he had where he said, uh,
Speaker 1: I hope Elon Musk gets murdered by a driverless car.
Speaker 1: Got him off Twitter curiously. Yeah, wait, and then it
Speaker 1: was an old tweet. Yeah, it was like some some
Speaker 1: Elon musk head found muskrat And I was like, wait,
Speaker 1: you can't do jokes like that on Twitter, Like that
Speaker 1: doesn't even seem harsh to me? Is that weird? Yeah?
Speaker 1: The language thing is so murky, Like I think you
Speaker 1: can't say like I'm going to kill Elon Musk flying
Speaker 1: car and automatic flying car. Please don't, please don't edit
Speaker 1: out that thing that I just said. It just says
Speaker 1: um But I think I don't know the saying, I
Speaker 1: hope thing I have no like that that other driverless
Speaker 1: car guy did get killed by a driverless car, which
Speaker 1: is why there was like a billionaire who's like was
Speaker 1: all into driverless cars and he like took the first
Speaker 1: ride on a driverless car and he was like watching
Speaker 1: Harry Potter in the backseat and got like crushed by
Speaker 1: a truck. WHOA. So that is why I am afraid
Speaker 1: of driverless cars? Is that being like, oh, just trust
Speaker 1: the technology seems like a very yeah, not something I'm
Speaker 1: gonna do. But it's like a photons, sorry, just the
Speaker 1: absence of photons. You guys, don't be scared um out
Speaker 1: of it. Emily, you were talking about the end of
Speaker 1: Greece the this was your immediate Yeah, there's like five
Speaker 1: things that this is echoing, and you mentioned um back
Speaker 1: to the future, which obviously like you know, the flying DeLorean.
Speaker 1: I feel like the Tesla is basically like the teen's
Speaker 1: answer to the DeLorean, except a Dolorean so much cooler
Speaker 1: than a Tesla. There's a DeLorean that drives around our
Speaker 1: neighborhood kind of like halfway between Molly's and my houses,
Speaker 1: and I've been known to follow the DeLorean. They're so
Speaker 1: they're so great because it's going to the past out
Speaker 1: of time. Um, it doesn't need rhads. But uh no,
Speaker 1: what was the other thing? Okay, so there's that. There's
Speaker 1: oh yeah, the end of Repo Man where they don't
Speaker 1: go into space, but like there is an alien that's
Speaker 1: like in the car and they just fly over Los
Speaker 1: Angeles in a car. I think it's like, um, it's
Speaker 1: a Malibu. It's like an old Malibu and uh and
Speaker 1: that's that's a that's a great iconic ending. And then
Speaker 1: the end of Greece, which I don't know how you
Speaker 1: guys forgot. This is like one of the only things
Speaker 1: I remember about Graces that I can picture it, but
Speaker 1: I never thought about it. It's like that they're in
Speaker 1: a car flying way. Yeah, they're like at the fair
Speaker 1: and they're doing the hand drive or whatever everybody's doing it,
Speaker 1: and they get in their car and they drive off
Speaker 1: into the sunset. Except they drive into the sun rather
Speaker 1: the sunset, apparently because they like lift off from Earth
Speaker 1: and everybody back on the ground is waving up at
Speaker 1: them like they're dying or something. It's very memory of
Speaker 1: this at all. I think what I was saying is
Speaker 1: that the movie Greece entirely takes place in like a
Speaker 1: sand Juni peri simulation of the fifties and sixties wherever. Yes,
Speaker 1: it would, because everybody's acts really weird in that movie. Yeah,
Speaker 1: everybody just looks like like this is what teenagers are like,
Speaker 1: this is what thirty five year old dressed as teenagers
Speaker 1: from an old time look like and behave like. Oh
Speaker 1: also that now now if I'm doing word association and
Speaker 1: her ending of things association, then it's also quoted in
Speaker 1: the video for It's also quiet but without a car,
Speaker 1: um b York just levitates above the ensemble of dancers.
Speaker 1: I mean sending York into space would be way cooler
Speaker 1: she came from space already, or just turning her from
Speaker 1: if York go home? I think I think that's the thing.
Speaker 1: Is like, it's not even that we're against a car
Speaker 1: in space. It's just like what an uncool car to
Speaker 1: send into space? You know, it's such a branding exercise,
Speaker 1: like car would you send into well? I was hoping
Speaker 1: you'd ask, um I would send like a beautiful like
Speaker 1: a low rider is what I would like to see
Speaker 1: in space. I think there's actually a comic about low
Speaker 1: riders in space. Really yeah, but that you know, like
Speaker 1: a beautiful space age car with fins, like because it
Speaker 1: could go faster into space with the fins because it looks,
Speaker 1: not because it would be a cool image. You know,
Speaker 1: I'm not, I'm not such a fun killer, although obviously
Speaker 1: i'm that'll just remind me from the sun. Then oh yeah,
Speaker 1: that was also true. Maybe I think we just all
Speaker 1: have this dream of their being like a car, an
Speaker 1: old timey car in space, and so a Tesla You're like, oh,
Speaker 1: what did it do? It gets like good mileage in space?
Speaker 1: I just finding space. Yeah. I think they're just such
Speaker 1: boring looking cars that I don't understand them at all.
Speaker 1: They are the Christian gray of cars. By the way,
Speaker 1: I saw that movie and it was amazing. Um and
Speaker 1: it was like a long car commercial. There was a
Speaker 1: whole scene that was just about driving a car fast test.
Speaker 1: What car would you like to send into space? Well,
Speaker 1: I'm glad I would probably send like a Volkswagen saying
Speaker 1: or something. You know, it would have to be like
Speaker 1: the strangest car so that if it did, if aliens
Speaker 1: were watching, they'd be like whoa, Like that's what everyone
Speaker 1: drives on Earth, and then they would imagine us as
Speaker 1: being hippies from the sixties. But you know, maybe to
Speaker 1: them that would seem innovative. I don't know. I mean
Speaker 1: I have the w bus. Yeah, like a bus or
Speaker 1: like I mean, honestly, like a Winnebago. You should send
Speaker 1: like an RV into space, and then they would just
Speaker 1: think that that's where we live. So I can totally
Speaker 1: see it with like a satellite dish on its roof
Speaker 1: and exactly we're going to have to send RVs into
Speaker 1: space soon anyway, because we're going to run out of Earth. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I wouldn't send it. I wouldn't send a car, all guys.
Speaker 1: I would send public transportation. Oh, a space bus, space
Speaker 1: bus or space train or space bullet train, space subway,
Speaker 1: sell express already looks like it came from space. Just
Speaker 1: send it right back like streamlined. Like what about like
Speaker 1: an old timey bicycle in space, one of those ones
Speaker 1: with the big wheel of velocipede space velocipede um. I
Speaker 1: also saw. The best meme I saw about this was like, hey,
Speaker 1: you know what's cooler than a car in space is
Speaker 1: recognizing your workers attempts to unionize yeah, so funny that um. Also,
Speaker 1: there was a I think I sent you guys. There
Speaker 1: was an article in maybe cholap Nick about a man,
Speaker 1: a rich guy, who was boasting on Instagram. He was like,
Speaker 1: I'm going to paint my Aston Martin with moon dust,
Speaker 1: actual moon dust. I've got a piece of moon rock.
Speaker 1: They're making it into dust. They're going to paint the car,
Speaker 1: and yeah, exactly. So I guess the writer of this
Speaker 1: article was like, I am going to investigate because it's illegal,
Speaker 1: Like the all of the moon rocks are accounted for,
Speaker 1: I guess, and an ounce of moon rock is a
Speaker 1: million and a half dollars, and he would need at
Speaker 1: least three ounces of moon rock to make enough dust
Speaker 1: to cover his car. Maybe he meant moon rocks like
Speaker 1: the weed is they're a type of weed that's like
Speaker 1: pure THHC. That's called moon rocks. I wouldn't know, but
Speaker 1: yes there is. But I think it's actually just like
Speaker 1: resin from any kind of weed that like, you know,
Speaker 1: a little hash crystals or something. If you paint your
Speaker 1: car with hash crystals, you're probably gonna feel like you're
Speaker 1: in space. This is what I say. I thought you
Speaker 1: were going to tell me about a different thing that
Speaker 1: I also read about, which was that guy who built
Speaker 1: his own rocket, This guy Mike Hughes. Do you know
Speaker 1: what I'm talking about anyone. There's a guy whose name
Speaker 1: is mad Mike Hughes. That's what he goes by. And
Speaker 1: he keeps doing these publicity stunts where he builds his
Speaker 1: own rockets and he says he's going to launch them. Um,
Speaker 1: and some people I follow on Instagram went to the launch,
Speaker 1: which was like in the desert somewhere, and everybody was
Speaker 1: commenting on this guy's Facebook page like you're gonna die.
Speaker 1: You're gonna die in this self made rocket and like
Speaker 1: you're an idiot. And he was like whatever, I'm gonna
Speaker 1: be in space and you're not, so like check it out. Um.
Speaker 1: And the rocket launch was not successful, but but he
Speaker 1: didn't die. He is alive still, so he so you
Speaker 1: can try again. How big are these rockets? So they're
Speaker 1: big enough to hold hand? This looked like what I
Speaker 1: remember the the filmmakers of Apollo thirt team referring to
Speaker 1: as a vomit comment. Oh yeah, yeah, like the thing
Speaker 1: well the thing that, yeah, the the method they used
Speaker 1: for getting zero grab and movie and just like the
Speaker 1: first rockets that were just like big enough for their
Speaker 1: tin cans, and they like go up and come back
Speaker 1: down hopefully they come back to in them. Don't man
Speaker 1: me from Twitter? Um, But yeah, you know, I think
Speaker 1: what bothers me about Elon Musk is like, don't privatize space.
Speaker 1: All these billionaires already trying to privatize all the beaches.
Speaker 1: Don't you can't have space, Give me space, that's my beach.
Speaker 1: Why is it that I'm so much like more into like,
Speaker 1: you know, pouring money into a space program. If it's
Speaker 1: actually like a government in space program, then then a
Speaker 1: private one, even though both are maybe not our top priorities, right,
Speaker 1: are laying the groundwork for when we all have to
Speaker 1: leave Earth and only the rich people get to like
Speaker 1: in the Martian Chronicles. Also, of course, there's no reason
Speaker 1: We've never been given any reasons to mistrust billionaires who
Speaker 1: want to take things and for themselves and ruin them.
Speaker 1: Like yeah, I mean, all these Silicon Valley guys just
Speaker 1: seem like they're such bond villains, you know, like the
Speaker 1: way that they conduct themselves and brand themselves. I'm like,
Speaker 1: don't they realize how scary they are coming off, and
Speaker 1: it's like, no, they don't because they have no self awareness,
Speaker 1: because they think being like photons absence of photons is
Speaker 1: a relatable Then again, in defense of that, though, I mean,
Speaker 1: I would hate if if I became a super rich
Speaker 1: and famous person and people were like miming all my thoughts,
Speaker 1: because they wouldn't they just chose. I mean, if you
Speaker 1: just aren't pulling things that wasn't my best. Also, if
Speaker 1: there was like a crazy lady, we'd maybe be more
Speaker 1: into it. It was like, if there was like a
Speaker 1: lady Barbara Corkoran, We're like, I'm gonna go, you know,
Speaker 1: with all of my Shark Tank entrepreneurs and colonized space.
Speaker 1: I'd be like, maybe, Barbara, maybe I'm fine with all
Speaker 1: the rich people being the first in space as long
Speaker 1: as they go first, you know, yes, you know wink Wick,
Speaker 1: we know. Uh sorry, s all right, Um, speaking of
Speaker 1: millionaires possibly evil? Are what am I talking about? Millionaires?
Speaker 1: Speaking of billionaires possibly evil? The evil variety? Um, this
Speaker 1: is a little bit late, but we had a we
Speaker 1: had a hot group chat, uh chat about this. Um.
Speaker 1: Stemming from the death of the founder of Ikea, whose
Speaker 1: name I'm going to find in like two seconds. Oh,
Speaker 1: I thought you were going from evil billionaires straight to
Speaker 1: the Olympics. Oh, well, we could do either. Um, let's
Speaker 1: tell me grocery stores first. This is the hot content
Speaker 1: everyone's been waiting for from nightcall for us to talk
Speaker 1: about the apocryphal Nazi origins of IKEA. I just found
Speaker 1: the best I just found the best factoid. Okay. Uh
Speaker 1: so so speaking of billionaires, um, the possibly evil or
Speaker 1: maybe very definitely evil variety. Um, this is a little
Speaker 1: bit late, but we had a discussion about this a
Speaker 1: couple of weeks ago and felt like we needed to
Speaker 1: take it to the pod. Uh uh about starting with
Speaker 1: the death of Ingvar Kamprad, the founder of Ikea, one
Speaker 1: of the richest men in the world. Um, he died
Speaker 1: at He died at age ninety two. Yeah, he looked
Speaker 1: to be very old and Um. Around his death, people
Speaker 1: brought up the fact that had been reported I think
Speaker 1: a few years prior, um that he had been in
Speaker 1: like a Nazi youth program um as a kid. And
Speaker 1: then also I mean had been like vocally supportive of
Speaker 1: Nazi policies all the way up to like two or
Speaker 1: three years before the founding of IKEA. Which was like
Speaker 1: in the forties. Ikea has been around for a really
Speaker 1: long time. UM uh yeah, it's sort of wild. Um.
Speaker 1: And I did not know about this before this was
Speaker 1: brought up. I missed it the first time around, um,
Speaker 1: and it made me. It made me. Uh. I had
Speaker 1: been spending a lot of time in Ikea that week
Speaker 1: because I was working on a project that required me
Speaker 1: to pick up some stuff there, and you know, UM,
Speaker 1: just sort of marvel. And I always like, whether it's
Speaker 1: like Ikea or Disneyland, like really big places where they
Speaker 1: have a they have a kind of um protocol for
Speaker 1: how you go through it, and it's been really you
Speaker 1: can tell it's really been managed down to like every
Speaker 1: single step you take. So I always find that interesting.
Speaker 1: Ike It like how they landed on this particular system.
Speaker 1: There's a way to go through Ikea that is that
Speaker 1: makes your life easy, and there's a way to go
Speaker 1: through it that makes your life miserable. And they definitely
Speaker 1: want you to choose the former. Um. But the answer
Speaker 1: to the question being fascism is not a huge surprise,
Speaker 1: I guess no, no, not at all. Um. But you know,
Speaker 1: it's sort of I actually think that I don't have
Speaker 1: a lot of people have like an allergic reaction to Ikea,
Speaker 1: and I find it some what calming, So that makes
Speaker 1: me worry about myself. Uh doesn't everybody find fascism calming?
Speaker 1: That's the whole It's what's scary about it. Anybody like
Speaker 1: being told what to do and where to go. Yeah,
Speaker 1: there's also something about, you know, the Ikea experience of
Speaker 1: like you're in and you're gonna you're gonna have to
Speaker 1: eat there, like having the cafeteria with all of the
Speaker 1: reminders of the cafeteria, but then in the cafeteria there's
Speaker 1: like the one thing you get, you know, because I've
Speaker 1: tried a few different things from Ikea, but it's like
Speaker 1: you're really going to get the meatballs with jam on them,
Speaker 1: which seems like such an odd thing to like watch
Speaker 1: a ton of people eating meat with jam in the
Speaker 1: middle of the day in a huge shopping center, But
Speaker 1: you're like, this is the experience I'm supposed to have.
Speaker 1: Stuff like that to actually also does freak me out
Speaker 1: about the idea of space colonies, because like, as soon
Speaker 1: as I get in there, I want out, you know.
Speaker 1: I'm like, even if they put everything, I feel the
Speaker 1: same way about like big airports, like casinos. It's like,
Speaker 1: even if they put everything I could possibly need, including
Speaker 1: like greenery, inside of an indoor space, it's still I
Speaker 1: have to get out, you know. Um. I loved the
Speaker 1: Ikea in l A in burbank Um, and then they
Speaker 1: moved to a larger, giant building and I hate the
Speaker 1: new one that they did. They moved across the made
Speaker 1: up street called Ikea Street um, and it's like just
Speaker 1: this giant, scary monolith. But like you have, most Ikeas
Speaker 1: are on I ke O Ways or Ikea Streets or something.
Speaker 1: It's like how Apple is on like one. Infinitely, it's
Speaker 1: just such an enormous thing. They have to build their
Speaker 1: own street for it. Well, I realized that the only
Speaker 1: reason I really liked going to Ikea was because I
Speaker 1: could then like trick people into hanging out at the
Speaker 1: weird dead Burbank mall next to it, and like like
Speaker 1: old town burbank Um. Although burbank is weirdly a alt
Speaker 1: right hotbed. Yeah really yeah, it's like the center of
Speaker 1: where all right people are in l A. There's like
Speaker 1: some alt right podcasters or something, which again I'm like, oh,
Speaker 1: you know that weird kind of fifties quality, you know,
Speaker 1: who likes that. There's a lot of my I have
Speaker 1: friends who live in Burbank who are not all right,
Speaker 1: and they claim that it's getting more progressive, but there
Speaker 1: is a kind of like Mayberry vibe where your nape.
Speaker 1: Like one of my friends who lives in Burbank was
Speaker 1: received a letter that she had been tattled on for
Speaker 1: like the fact that her sprinklers partially sprinkled the sidewalk
Speaker 1: and not all of the water landed on the greenery,
Speaker 1: so she was wasting what But it's like, you know,
Speaker 1: she had done zero escaping, Like she's so anxious about
Speaker 1: how you know, not being like, you know, just having
Speaker 1: this appearance of being a conscious suburbs suburb everyone's watching
Speaker 1: each other all the time. But there's a lot of
Speaker 1: those in It's also like so defined by the presence
Speaker 1: of Disney, I feel yeah, and Disney and Ikea, the
Speaker 1: twin pillars of Burbank. Also, I feel like, I mean,
Speaker 1: it's it is like because it is um that fifty
Speaker 1: suburb that is in the Los Angeles area, it also
Speaker 1: becomes the fifty suburb of the mind because it is
Speaker 1: like it has been uh immortalized in that way, like
Speaker 1: you know, from everything from like Edwards her hands and yeah,
Speaker 1: um and and and so it feels, you know, weirdly
Speaker 1: like if you're going there, if you're attracted to some
Speaker 1: idea of Ikea. It's both what Ikea actually is and
Speaker 1: also what it is on screen. Well, Burbank, Also, how
Speaker 1: is that weird quality of kind of going up It's
Speaker 1: like flat and then it ends in a mountain, so
Speaker 1: it kind of looks like you're on a sound stage
Speaker 1: and I see it's a backdrop. It's very Truman show.
Speaker 1: It is very Trueman. It is like, well Truman Burbank,
Speaker 1: that was his last name, exactly. There we go, we're
Speaker 1: solving a mystery. So we we when we were talking
Speaker 1: about Mr Kamprad and Ikea and the weirdness, the both
Speaker 1: you know, somewhat comforting and also troubling experience of going
Speaker 1: to Ikea, then we also um found that he wasn't
Speaker 1: the only um possible Nazi uh alleged. I think we
Speaker 1: have to keep these as alleged for some people, UM
Speaker 1: that owns a owns an empire with a presence in America.
Speaker 1: UM And somewhat heartbreakingly, we saw the it's still like
Speaker 1: it's it's not I feel like it's not well whatever.
Speaker 1: Somebody want to talk about traders. Yeah, so shows was
Speaker 1: started by Joe columb I'm not pronouncing your right in California.
Speaker 1: But then it was purchased by one of a pair
Speaker 1: of German brothers in nineteen seventy nine who had started
Speaker 1: all the supermarkets and then had split into Aldi Nord
Speaker 1: and Aldi sud Um after they argued about whether or
Speaker 1: not to sell cigarettes. So I guess theo all wrecked
Speaker 1: bought Trader Joe's and he had it from Wikipedia. I
Speaker 1: think During World War Two, Theodore was conscripted into the
Speaker 1: were marched where he served with Rommel's Africa Core in
Speaker 1: an art Yeah and also side note not having to
Speaker 1: do with him um having served in you know, with
Speaker 1: the Nazis. But he was also kidnapped apparently and held
Speaker 1: for seventeen days at gunpoint. So he was really really
Speaker 1: he got really reclusive, like the whole family became very
Speaker 1: private and very reclusive. So I think it's it became
Speaker 1: harder to discern if he how he felt about you know,
Speaker 1: his past, which makes it even more mysterious. I mean,
Speaker 1: have you all ever been to an Aldi. Oh my god, well,
Speaker 1: all the is like totally. Aldia is like you know
Speaker 1: how everything is just so cheap at I Ke, especially
Speaker 1: the food stuff, and it's like, am I I feel
Speaker 1: like I'm in another country right now because it's just
Speaker 1: like the numbers are not even computing to me as
Speaker 1: being anywhere near correct, Like I shouldn't be able to
Speaker 1: have a plate of meatballs for three dollars or whatever
Speaker 1: it is. Um, that's sort of how Aldie is. Aldia
Speaker 1: is like so dirt cheap, and that's like why they
Speaker 1: were successful is that they managed to be cheaper than
Speaker 1: anybody else by a wide margin. Josephs too, it's every
Speaker 1: other grocery store, although having worked there, the reason I
Speaker 1: was given as to why that was true is because
Speaker 1: they like own their own transport trucks. Part of every
Speaker 1: anything being the Trader Joe's brand is because they don't
Speaker 1: have to pay for someone to like transport from whatever
Speaker 1: company to Trader Joe's, which is why they claim regular
Speaker 1: grocery stores have such high prices because they have to
Speaker 1: buy like the name brand. There's no middleman. But what
Speaker 1: do you know? What? What? What? Now that you have
Speaker 1: experienced from the inside working at Trader joe Is, does
Speaker 1: any does this revelation make anything makes sense to you? Well, again,
Speaker 1: I think there's a weird sort of I mean unforeseen
Speaker 1: connection between nineteen fifties tiki culture and Nazis, as we
Speaker 1: all learned when the Nazis, like the sixth thing I
Speaker 1: would have expected you to bring up, well, remember how
Speaker 1: the Nazis did when when they did, they're they're scary
Speaker 1: march tiki torches. There a connection with tiki torches before then. No,
Speaker 1: But I mean, this is what I've learned about Burbank
Speaker 1: is like people who are very nostalgic for the fifties
Speaker 1: are generally uh into white power because there's like this
Speaker 1: weird you know, like the past of the mind that
Speaker 1: they're all into that They're like things used to be
Speaker 1: great and then like modernity ruined everything. So like you know,
Speaker 1: there's like kind of rockabilly overlap with white power stuff
Speaker 1: in Orange County. Um. So finding out there was a
Speaker 1: connection to Nazism and Trader Joe's was maybe not as surprising,
Speaker 1: although I had assumed that it was just founded by
Speaker 1: some guy into tiki stuff, which it was, but then
Speaker 1: he sold it. He sold it to the Nazis who
Speaker 1: came knocking. But I mean he was also interesting in
Speaker 1: our group check because we had there was something negative
Speaker 1: to find about every grocery store. That's what we found out.
Speaker 1: We were like, are there any that are safe? I
Speaker 1: mean there's there's kind because there was a big dust
Speaker 1: up a while, you know, a few years ago with
Speaker 1: a natural food store out here, Lassons, and I know
Speaker 1: we were all pretty bummed that Lassens was pro Prop
Speaker 1: eight because they are run by Mormons and they faced
Speaker 1: a big backlash over that their pro life. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: don't know. They gave money, they gave um, they donated
Speaker 1: to the prop aid campaign. Yeah, yeah, the family did um.
Speaker 1: They will notice that the southern California residents will will
Speaker 1: notice that Lascens is closed on Sundays. Uh. Oh, I
Speaker 1: did not know. But yeah, looking into sort of all
Speaker 1: the grocery stores, uh, it's not super surprising that a
Speaker 1: lot of them are really exploitative. And yeah, they're all
Speaker 1: like union busting and like nasty in that way. I
Speaker 1: mean also, but this is the thing that that I
Speaker 1: grapple with is that I feel like, whether well so
Speaker 1: the guy, the the the former Nazi who owned Trader Joe's.
Speaker 1: He's no longer with us, he's dead. Um. I don't
Speaker 1: I think his son it now owns it um And
Speaker 1: we you know, because they're so inclusive, we have no
Speaker 1: idea how they how his son feels about his his
Speaker 1: father's leg here anything, but like I feel like on
Speaker 1: a business level today, like Trader Jose is actually one
Speaker 1: of the like less awful places you couldn't shop at
Speaker 1: ye um. And I actually I was surprised because I
Speaker 1: told my dad. I was like, oh, did you know
Speaker 1: the Trader Jos was owned by this guy who was
Speaker 1: Nazi Um And he was a little bit more like
Speaker 1: open minded about it that I would have thought, as
Speaker 1: we are descended to polycaust survivors and not survivors. Where
Speaker 1: he was like, you know everyone in Germany of a
Speaker 1: certain age. He was like, they were conscripted into the
Speaker 1: army exactly like they necessarily mean that they know and
Speaker 1: that's and that's true because also this was a few
Speaker 1: years ago. This was discussed on a bunch of yelled
Speaker 1: boards which I looked into and people were like, oh,
Speaker 1: did you know that they were Nazis? And some of
Speaker 1: the responses were like, well, their father worked in a
Speaker 1: mine and their mom ran a grocery store and they
Speaker 1: were really poor, and they were like, oh, we have
Speaker 1: to learn how to run a grocery store so we
Speaker 1: don't end up working in the mines and dying. And
Speaker 1: then they were conscripted. So it's not like they were
Speaker 1: like super jazzed to join the Knight, Like, we don't know,
Speaker 1: we don't know, you don't know the the Ikea guy.
Speaker 1: On the other hand, I think we have more evidence
Speaker 1: that he was super into it, like he was. There
Speaker 1: was a book by Elizabeth as brink Yeah, hell, he
Speaker 1: said um. At one point he said that he I
Speaker 1: guess quote it was youthful stupidity and the greatest mistake
Speaker 1: of his life. But the woman who wrote the book,
Speaker 1: Elizabeth asbrink Um, said that he actively recruited people that
Speaker 1: he was, you know, involved for a long time. So
Speaker 1: it seems like a bit of a more active thing.
Speaker 1: But at the same time, he has so much cheaper
Speaker 1: than everything. I just wanted to not be true, but
Speaker 1: we knew i Kea was evil for other reasons, which
Speaker 1: is that they like like H and M and these
Speaker 1: other kind of like fast manufacturing anything where you're like,
Speaker 1: how is it so cheap? Is that they like throw
Speaker 1: everything away rather than give it to people who could
Speaker 1: use it, which I still don't even understand why they
Speaker 1: do that. And that was also something I think that's
Speaker 1: just a grocery store policy. Like a lot of food
Speaker 1: at grocery stores that has just gone bad or like
Speaker 1: you know, could still be eaten technically, and you have
Speaker 1: to throw it out. That stuff drives me crazy. And
Speaker 1: that's actually yeah, And that's one of the things that
Speaker 1: Trader Joe's is actually like really good with is that
Speaker 1: they do not do the thing that all of the
Speaker 1: bigger mainstream grocery stores do where they buy like a
Speaker 1: huge pile of food just so you can have the
Speaker 1: image of a wall of food when you walk in
Speaker 1: and be like like reassured in the idea that you
Speaker 1: live in a land of plenty. Like Trader Joe's runs
Speaker 1: out of things a lot, especially in Silver Lake, they do,
Speaker 1: and then they push other things in front. That's our
Speaker 1: secret method, right, if you want to get the newest
Speaker 1: stuff a trader, just go all the way to the
Speaker 1: back of the row. That's my entire tip. Like in
Speaker 1: the vegetables that will have like the stuff that expires,
Speaker 1: soonest will be at the front. I think that's usually
Speaker 1: most grocery stores. But they also they also do like
Speaker 1: the gut the whoever is the not the owner owner,
Speaker 1: but the the founder or not founder. I don't know
Speaker 1: what the title is, but he runs like a kind
Speaker 1: of um like produced strift store in some inner city
Speaker 1: neighborhoods where people can access fresh produce for like an
Speaker 1: affordable price. Um. It's run by Trader Joe's. I think
Speaker 1: it's called Daily Table UM. I mean like that stuff
Speaker 1: I think is really good and like addresses a big
Speaker 1: problem that nobody talks about, which is like how much
Speaker 1: food is going to waste when so many people are
Speaker 1: don't have enough to eat in the world. And yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean also when I worked there, there were like
Speaker 1: career people there. There were a lot of people who
Speaker 1: were working there who were trying to like do creative
Speaker 1: stuff and it was their day job. But there were
Speaker 1: also a lot of people who just worked to Trader
Speaker 1: Joe's and that was their their living. And if you
Speaker 1: work there long enough, I don't know if this is
Speaker 1: still true, but like you could get a decent healthcare
Speaker 1: I believe so in other ways it seemed like it
Speaker 1: was better for workers and something. Yeah, well, which is
Speaker 1: known well known for union busting. Um, there's a great post. Uh.
Speaker 1: I think it's on the Uh No, I won't remember. Uh.
Speaker 1: There's a great post about the origins of Ralphs that
Speaker 1: I love, um about just sort of the invention of
Speaker 1: the the American specifically the Californian grocery store with the
Speaker 1: big pile of oranges and all that stuff. Oh yeah,
Speaker 1: I love thinking about stuff like that. It's yeah, thinking
Speaker 1: speaking of evil empires that provide pleasure to people. When
Speaker 1: are we not talking about evil empires on night call? Uh?
Speaker 1: We were going to talk about the Winter Olympics for
Speaker 1: a moment. Yeah, man, Well so we haven't. We haven't
Speaker 1: an inter pod not inter intrepod um debate because um,
Speaker 1: some of you may know Molly, and I mean I
Speaker 1: think we're all supportive. Um, but Molly, especially as like
Speaker 1: really leading the the the no Olympics in l a
Speaker 1: charge um and just you know, kind of highlight I
Speaker 1: think you've been doing a lot of really good work
Speaker 1: highlighting all the ways in which Olympics usually funk over
Speaker 1: the cities that they take place in and are really
Speaker 1: bad for homeless populations and the environment and a brazillion
Speaker 1: other things and mostly just exists to make rich people
Speaker 1: rich with construction and stuff like that. Um. On the
Speaker 1: other hand, figure skating is so great. That's the thing
Speaker 1: is like we're not anti figure skating. We're not, and
Speaker 1: there are other places to watch figure skating that yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean we wish that. The problem with the Olympics
Speaker 1: too is the idea that these like lesser known sports
Speaker 1: and especially like sports featuring female athletes that get featured
Speaker 1: during the Olympics and no other time. It's like we
Speaker 1: could show those on TV more anyway, we just don't.
Speaker 1: We only focus on the big male dominated sports leagues.
Speaker 1: I mean, like I so, you know, before the Olympics started,
Speaker 1: I was like, all, I know, like I don't want to,
Speaker 1: you know, detract from the cause, but like I have
Speaker 1: to watch figure skating, so I've been trying not to
Speaker 1: watch the other sports. But then like they will do
Speaker 1: the thing where they're you know, they show a block
Speaker 1: of figure skating and then they'll switch over to show
Speaker 1: downhill skiing. It's happen at the same time. And it's true,
Speaker 1: like there are there are like female skiers that are
Speaker 1: just it makes me so happy to watch like these
Speaker 1: like really talented women like do something incredible and superhuman,
Speaker 1: like go down a hill super fast and be so
Speaker 1: tough in a way you never get to see from
Speaker 1: sports on especially not on television, uh, any other time
Speaker 1: of the year. And so I'm very I'm very pulled
Speaker 1: into directions right now. Look, it's okay, I watched the Olympics.
Speaker 1: It's not we're not like you know, it's it's not
Speaker 1: a full like you can't enjoy any of this. We
Speaker 1: acknowledge that it's pleasurable because again, there's a lot of
Speaker 1: stuff about fascism that's really seductive and that's why people
Speaker 1: like these things. It's or the like the interstitial segments
Speaker 1: where they do the propaganda segments about like this athlete
Speaker 1: overcame so much, you know, so many things to come
Speaker 1: to the Olympics and now if they're great, it's going
Speaker 1: to be the greatest moment of their life. And you know,
Speaker 1: those athletes do not get paid well, um, most of
Speaker 1: them are like you know, they don't pay for them
Speaker 1: to come to the Olympics. They have to pay for
Speaker 1: it themselves or the team has to pay. Uh. You know,
Speaker 1: I'm not against an international sports competition. I'm just pro
Speaker 1: disbanding the IOC completely awful, overhauling the way that the
Speaker 1: Olympics happen, and uh being a Debbie downer who tells
Speaker 1: people stuff about like did you know that that beautiful
Speaker 1: ski run they raised an ancient forest in Korea for? Yeah,
Speaker 1: because they did. I mean, I love figure skating, yeah,
Speaker 1: and I think I think that, Um. One fun thing
Speaker 1: about figure skating this year is that, um, we are
Speaker 1: now living in a post eurieon ice figure skating world.
Speaker 1: And there's already been at least one performance or one
Speaker 1: UM skate by a pair from Japan done to music
Speaker 1: from Uri on Ice. Your on Ice is a animated
Speaker 1: an anime show from Japan about ice skaters, about male
Speaker 1: ice skaters, and it is the best and homo eroticism
Speaker 1: and yeah, it's a deeply homo erotic show about beautiful
Speaker 1: men who can do triple axels and quads and UM
Speaker 1: also like to hug. And it's great because the skating
Speaker 1: moment that made you cry, Um, I I teared up
Speaker 1: for that that pair skate, which wasn't even that great
Speaker 1: of a pair skate, but the music that they did
Speaker 1: it too, is like this, it's like not the theme
Speaker 1: song of the show, but it's um the skate that
Speaker 1: that your either title character does is his his freestyle
Speaker 1: skate when he's going, um king his way up to
Speaker 1: the world. And it is so it's the piano theme.
Speaker 1: It's so beautiful. Uh. It makes you just like want
Speaker 1: to root for whoever you're watching while they're while they're
Speaker 1: skating to it, because it's just like so gentle and
Speaker 1: just like sounds like trying. Really, it just is the
Speaker 1: sound of like trying really hard and like the triumph
Speaker 1: of the human spirit or something. I just glad people
Speaker 1: have moved away from like only skating to the same thing.
Speaker 1: I feel like everybody, well there was already, there's already
Speaker 1: uh Swan Lake. Um, yeah, like skate to you know,
Speaker 1: skate to scroll X. I'm into that. What would skate too?
Speaker 1: It was just such a good question. We'll task first.
Speaker 1: I wanted to say, you're probably the only one of
Speaker 1: us who actually played winter sports. Go, oh my god,
Speaker 1: you you had to outer. I don't know if you
Speaker 1: could even say I played sorts. I was played by
Speaker 1: when I was I went to a school briefly for
Speaker 1: three years where sports were a very important part of
Speaker 1: the curriculum, and it was in addition to to you know, Pe,
Speaker 1: we had mandatory team sports. Un I just had. I
Speaker 1: literally shuddered. I shuddered. I also shuddered when you're mandatory team.
Speaker 1: It was honestly, I was I was just talking about
Speaker 1: whether or not to sign one of my kids up
Speaker 1: for basketball, and I remembered I had I had anxiety
Speaker 1: induced xema playing yeah, on the insides of my obos
Speaker 1: playing and uh, and that was not even my least
Speaker 1: favorite sport I had to play there. But yeah, I
Speaker 1: did co ed ice hockey, but when I was miserable.
Speaker 1: But that also seems really cruel to do to prepubuson.
Speaker 1: It was so cruel. And I was telling I was
Speaker 1: talking with my husband about this, and I was like,
Speaker 1: you know, when I ever think about, like could I
Speaker 1: go to war, I remember what it was like to
Speaker 1: be like suited up with all of this protective gear
Speaker 1: and then mouthguard, Like I could never get the hang
Speaker 1: of the mouth guard, and I think I molded it wrong,
Speaker 1: like you don't get in the hot water and you
Speaker 1: do the whole thing. But I always felt like I
Speaker 1: was gagging on the mouth guard, I was like fat,
Speaker 1: so I also had like a lot of padding. And
Speaker 1: then you just see all these people with this objective
Speaker 1: of like they have the objective to win, and you
Speaker 1: don't have the same objective because you're just so overwhelmed,
Speaker 1: and like they come trying to survive. You're just trying
Speaker 1: to survive. And I mean, yeah, I would hide out
Speaker 1: and try and like skate, you know, lace my skates forever,
Speaker 1: which actually was like kind of also hard to do. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that was my softball strategy because I was always stuck
Speaker 1: in right field, so I would be spend a lot
Speaker 1: of time like drawn pictures with my cliques. I like
Speaker 1: wanted to be good at sports. I just was not.
Speaker 1: You were, no, but you did, Okay, I did not
Speaker 1: do I mean not as good as I wanted to be,
Speaker 1: considering that my grandmother was like a Olympic level athlete, uh,
Speaker 1: which were on that in the future pod maybe, but
Speaker 1: you know I was like, oh, I've got these good
Speaker 1: athletic jeans. And then I was like no, I'm like
Speaker 1: three ft tall and like I can't do anything but
Speaker 1: maybe like gymnastics, Emily, what did you play? Um? I
Speaker 1: played some softball that was it. I didn't play anything
Speaker 1: officially or competitively after seventh grade. Um. I would play
Speaker 1: tennis sometimes because I lived by the school and was
Speaker 1: by the tennis courts and so I could, but I
Speaker 1: was not good at it. It was just a thing
Speaker 1: to do. Who would have thought that three unathletic cool
Speaker 1: kids would grow up to be writers with the podcast. Um, well,
Speaker 1: I I before we before we wrap up figure skating,
Speaker 1: I just want to say that, Well, okay, so there's
Speaker 1: already been a bunch of stuff, a bunch of skating
Speaker 1: to Mulan Rouge. There was an ice dance to a
Speaker 1: Mulan Rouge medley that had a lot of people talking
Speaker 1: because it was very spicy and very touchy and um.
Speaker 1: And then they were Canadian of course. And then there
Speaker 1: Adam Rappon, who's kind of like the big he's he's
Speaker 1: not necessarily the like most the biggest hope for a
Speaker 1: medal from the men's which is more exciting this year.
Speaker 1: I have to say, like the men's skating on the
Speaker 1: American side is more exciting this year. But he because
Speaker 1: he got like fourth place at Nationals but then got
Speaker 1: sent to the American team anyway, and he's the one
Speaker 1: who's been really outspoken about like Mike Pence and stuff.
Speaker 1: He refused to meet with Mike Pence because he's gay,
Speaker 1: and he's he's openly gay, and he's like really just
Speaker 1: like I have I want nothing to do with our
Speaker 1: vice president. So he's there have been a lot of
Speaker 1: really good like quotes from him that he had. He
Speaker 1: had like kind of a disaster. I'm sorry, am I
Speaker 1: showing how much I've been paying attention to ice skating
Speaker 1: right now? We forgive you know, he checked out no
Speaker 1: Olympics l A, but he had so this has nothing
Speaker 1: to do with the Olympics. He did have like a
Speaker 1: really bad, like like kind of heartbreaking skate or like
Speaker 1: he made a lot of mistakes at the nationals um
Speaker 1: but then got in anyway and skated for the team
Speaker 1: event at the Olympics and it he's get into cold
Speaker 1: Play and cry I don't know the song. I I
Speaker 1: don't know the song. It was a song with a
Speaker 1: really long instrumental part for the first half, and he
Speaker 1: was just he was like the best I've I've I've
Speaker 1: seen him on any like YouTube clip that I've ever watched,
Speaker 1: and he was just like the performance just made me
Speaker 1: like so happy for him because he's just like having
Speaker 1: a moment right now is very like, um yeah, just
Speaker 1: like the kind of person that you want to have
Speaker 1: like on a mic at the Olympics because they're gonna
Speaker 1: like say something about like this administration. So look, Emily's
Speaker 1: Elon Musk outfits us all with our robot skeletons that
Speaker 1: make us super strong, we'll all be able to ice
Speaker 1: skate and do triple axles and we won't need the IOC.
Speaker 1: We'll just do it on our own. We'll be ice
Speaker 1: skating in space. Um. I The other thing, well, there's
Speaker 1: the I think there's been just a lot of ice
Speaker 1: skating media recently, so I think that there's been renewed
Speaker 1: enthusiasm for because it sounds like you also have a
Speaker 1: Google alert for ice skating. Oh well no, I just
Speaker 1: follow some podcasts and I saw a Tania which is
Speaker 1: not very good, but the ice skating scenes in Iitania
Speaker 1: are amazing. And I have a whole spill now about
Speaker 1: how wow, like look what we can do with digital effects.
Speaker 1: Now we should be making more ice skating movies, um,
Speaker 1: where you can like map a face onto a skater
Speaker 1: and make it look like really cinematic and realistic, because
Speaker 1: we can do that now. Instead, all we use the
Speaker 1: effects for are like car crashes and explosions still and
Speaker 1: space battles. We could have like ten ice skating movies
Speaker 1: and action on ice. We can all of these things.
Speaker 1: We could have car crashes and skan skating and explosions. No,
Speaker 1: I don't need I don't mean to leave out explosions
Speaker 1: like the best movie. I had an ice skating birthday
Speaker 1: party once as a child. During the eighties, craze for
Speaker 1: ice skating rinks in mall switches how Tanya Harding got
Speaker 1: into ice skating. You didn't have it at the Culver
Speaker 1: City Ring. No, there was a mall. There was an
Speaker 1: ice skating rink in the Laurel Plaza mall, which got
Speaker 1: destroyed by the earthquake, the North earthquake. Um and has
Speaker 1: been a kind of a pile of bones ever since. Um.
Speaker 1: I loved that ice skating rink. I loved that whole
Speaker 1: mall with its orange Julius. It's gonna rank next time
Speaker 1: we're all in l A, guys. I would love to
Speaker 1: would be great to make test play ice hockey. I
Speaker 1: just I just shrank back. I was like, no, no,
Speaker 1: I'll just drive the zamboni. I would love the zamboni.
Speaker 1: Oh a space samboni. That's so we should send it.
Speaker 1: That's it. I agree, that's perfect. So I think we're
Speaker 1: going to turn it over to one of our night
Speaker 1: call listener questions. If you also have a question or
Speaker 1: a thought in your head for us to answer, you
Speaker 1: can give us a call at two four zero four
Speaker 1: six night. It doesn't have to be at night, and
Speaker 1: that we will try and get to your question on there. Okay,
Speaker 1: So it looks like today we have a question about
Speaker 1: Paddington too loosely, Hey, what's up natives? Collin uh in?
Speaker 1: Because I want to reopen that padding two bags. I
Speaker 1: don't want to leave that close. There's too much to
Speaker 1: talk about. This movie rules too hard. Um, So I
Speaker 1: have voice blindness. It's not a real thing, but I
Speaker 1: can't really tell people apart on podcast to like the
Speaker 1: thirteenth episode, So my apologies. I don't remember who exactly
Speaker 1: said this, but they mentioned before they saw patting In
Speaker 1: two that they saw a bevy of terrible trailers, as
Speaker 1: did I at the very same experience where I counted
Speaker 1: five trailers that had extended fart jokes as a part
Speaker 1: of their advertising for all these kids movies. Before I
Speaker 1: saw the film, I was just so angry. But then
Speaker 1: after I saw Patties and I just felt so sad
Speaker 1: that kids movies feel like they have to do this.
Speaker 1: They have to appeal to the the cheapest part of
Speaker 1: being a kid. I know I can make my seven
Speaker 1: year old nephew laugh by just going, hey, farts, and
Speaker 1: he will laugh because that's the global humor he's at.
Speaker 1: But it just made me sad that so many kids
Speaker 1: films don't try. So why why don't you think more
Speaker 1: kids films try? Is it? Is it just that it works? Like? What? Why?
Speaker 1: Why aren't kids films more like experimental and fun? I
Speaker 1: think that's what I really appreciate. But Paving Too is
Speaker 1: like it reminded me of my my favorite kid movies
Speaker 1: like Mary Poppins and Willy Wonka, were like, the world
Speaker 1: doesn't make sense because who cares the kids movies, So
Speaker 1: let's just explore and have fun and do crazy things
Speaker 1: and break the laws of physics and reality because it's
Speaker 1: the kids you care. It's not fun. Why don't you
Speaker 1: think more kids films do that? Where are they still
Speaker 1: rigidly structured like a Pixar film or or rely on
Speaker 1: so much uh really awful based level humor. That's curious
Speaker 1: way you think that is? All right? I love the
Speaker 1: show already, guys looking forward to Well, I think we
Speaker 1: kind of maybe undermine whatever we're about to Saint X
Speaker 1: because I know that I laughed when he just said farts. Um,
Speaker 1: but that was a great call, um, thank you? Was
Speaker 1: that Colin? What was the name? I don't know if
Speaker 1: that person identified themselves. Maybe because they knew that they
Speaker 1: would be stalked by us, we can call them Paddington. Yeah,
Speaker 1: well that was a great call from Padding to love
Speaker 1: her sixty nine. Uh um, yeah, I don't know. I
Speaker 1: would be interested to know what Test thinks of this,
Speaker 1: having um, young people to entertain in your life and
Speaker 1: so many children. Well, I do have to say that
Speaker 1: in defense of fart jokes, as if they needed defending. Um.
Speaker 1: I was having a hard time coming up with TV
Speaker 1: shows to watch with my kids, and I found a
Speaker 1: show called All Hail King Julian that is a spin
Speaker 1: off show for Madagascar and uh and there was one
Speaker 1: episode that won me over where King Julian's a lemur
Speaker 1: and he is the king of all of these lemurs
Speaker 1: in Madagascar obviously, and uh, they're all kind of like,
Speaker 1: you know, just a motley crew. They can't really get
Speaker 1: anything done. And at some point they discover coffee, which
Speaker 1: King Julian brands as a brown Julian and they all
Speaker 1: start drinking coffee and they're all really productive in the kingdom,
Speaker 1: and then they all start just like zonking out and
Speaker 1: falling asleep on you know, falling out of trees. But
Speaker 1: it was I was like, this is so good because
Speaker 1: it's clearly addressing parents need for coffee and how we
Speaker 1: all are like exactly like these lemurs. We're like we're
Speaker 1: so productive, we're so productive, and then by the time
Speaker 1: we're watching this with our kids, were like just a
Speaker 1: shell of a human um. But I mean, I think
Speaker 1: people are very protective of the media their their children consume.
Speaker 1: I mean, I think Emily, you may have been the
Speaker 1: one to send me something about the you know YouTube
Speaker 1: the like there was an article about how uh you
Speaker 1: know you the YouTube videos where it takes all these
Speaker 1: familiar character tres two kids and then it's kind of
Speaker 1: just assembled by algorithm and they're really violent so I
Speaker 1: think that there's something of like you trust Pixar to
Speaker 1: not fuck your kids up that way. Uh, And so
Speaker 1: hence the rigid structure, which is also obviously geared toward merchandizing. Um.
Speaker 1: But yeah, I mean when I was a kid, like,
Speaker 1: I was definitely watching like bed Knobs and Broomsticks, like
Speaker 1: the more kind of absurdist children's movies. And now it's
Speaker 1: I haven't seen Paddington too yet. It's very bead knobs
Speaker 1: and broomsticks. There's actually I think there's like a scene
Speaker 1: with some some night armor that I thought, oh, this
Speaker 1: is just like that room sticks. No wonder, I like it.
Speaker 1: That movie is the best. It is the best, and
Speaker 1: especially I mean honestly Home Alone. I watched with my
Speaker 1: kids not long ago, and I was like, Home Alone
Speaker 1: so good because it takes a fantasy of not of
Speaker 1: you know, having the house to yourself and like nobody
Speaker 1: to tell you what to do, and then it turns
Speaker 1: it into a nightmare and then it kind of redeems it.
Speaker 1: But it goes through all of these iterations of exploring,
Speaker 1: like when a kid is thinking about this objective, and
Speaker 1: then like all of the different ways it can play
Speaker 1: out I loved Home alone. I was put off by
Speaker 1: the violence. Yeah, no, I I was too. I was
Speaker 1: about to say that, like I had to review. It
Speaker 1: was very interesting to come from Paddington to to reviewing
Speaker 1: Peter Rabbit this past week because they deceptively seem like
Speaker 1: things that would be very similar are very British, like
Speaker 1: a c G I, a cute c G I animal
Speaker 1: interacting with with human characters. But like you really see
Speaker 1: the difference between two kind of um I guess approaches
Speaker 1: to children's material, And so much of Peter Rabbit is
Speaker 1: about how he's just like bashing Dominal Gleason over the
Speaker 1: head and electrocuting him at one point, like in multiple
Speaker 1: points electrocuting him, and it's like so violent, and I
Speaker 1: I think if I was a kid, I would just
Speaker 1: be really stressed out by it because it's just about
Speaker 1: him getting bashed around. Well, dude, have you read the
Speaker 1: books recently because they are so cob Yeah, but they're
Speaker 1: not things like well mom is a widow because his
Speaker 1: dad was baked in a pie by Mr McGregor. And
Speaker 1: then Benjamin Bunny, who's like his cousin. In the Benjamin
Speaker 1: Bunny book, there's a whole scene where he gets beaten
Speaker 1: with a switch, and I was I found I had
Speaker 1: my old copy and I was like, oh, I will
Speaker 1: read you this before bed, and I was just like,
Speaker 1: excuse me, I'm so sorry. There's a bunny beating another bunny.
Speaker 1: I think they're like good kids things have a little
Speaker 1: darkness in them always, and like Maurice Bax books and stuff. Yeah,
Speaker 1: bad kid things treat kids like idiots, yeah, and are
Speaker 1: condescending and then sometimes, like I'm thinking of DreamWorks movies specifically,
Speaker 1: are like, you know, treat kids like idiots and then
Speaker 1: like wink at the adults, being like, hey, we know
Speaker 1: you're here too, Like that's why Angelina Jolie is the shark.
Speaker 1: I also hate, Yeah, I think that when one of
Speaker 1: the trailers that he's referring to, and maybe you saw
Speaker 1: this before Paddington to Molly, was the Teen Titans Go
Speaker 1: to the Movies trailer, which has a really really long
Speaker 1: fart joke in it, and I saw that before. I
Speaker 1: saw that before Peter Rabbit, and I was just like, yeah,
Speaker 1: this sucks. I hated all the trailers up to and
Speaker 1: very much, including the Wes Anderson Island of Dogs trailer,
Speaker 1: which made me angry in a different way. You know, wait,
Speaker 1: tell me about the Island of Dogs. We have to
Speaker 1: we have a whole different projects, whole episode about it,
Speaker 1: because it's like it manages to be like stupid and
Speaker 1: racist seeming and twee, just everything I hate in a movie.
Speaker 1: We're gonna go in on it, sorry to all of us,
Speaker 1: Anderson stands, but we're gonna torch from the island. Maybe
Speaker 1: maybe mad. It's a stop motion movie. But for some reason,
Speaker 1: I'm also now thinking about the trailer I saw before
Speaker 1: fifty Shades Freed, which was also a children's movie. Also
Speaker 1: a children's movie, um, although they admitted the part from
Speaker 1: the final book where the baby kicks inside Anastasia and
Speaker 1: she says the baby like sex to oh my god,
Speaker 1: stay in the movie, oh my god. The books there's
Speaker 1: such a nightmare. But there was a long trailer for
Speaker 1: a movie that made me angry because it's a movie
Speaker 1: called Blockers with a rooster at the front because it's
Speaker 1: like cock Blockers, but like they can't say cock for
Speaker 1: some reason. And it was like the whole trailer was
Speaker 1: just to lead up to a really long joke about
Speaker 1: John Sana the wrestler who I guess as an actor
Speaker 1: now but chugging, And I was also like, who, who
Speaker 1: thinks this is that funny? Like it's maybe I don't know,
Speaker 1: just like the way the joke was set up and executed.
Speaker 1: I was like, it's not that this couldn't be funny,
Speaker 1: but just like how they're doing it, it's so like,
Speaker 1: this is what we think a comedy is, Like, uh
Speaker 1: so I think you know, you know, it was a
Speaker 1: really good kids movie, but not in its entirety, but
Speaker 1: just like a slice of it was Flight of the
Speaker 1: Navigator when he's when he's just dealing with the creatures
Speaker 1: in the jars on the ship. You know, I've ever
Speaker 1: seen that one. It's pretty jankie Sarah Jessica Parker's in it,
Speaker 1: and the bit rolled. But like I remember, if I
Speaker 1: could isolate, like something that I would want to expand
Speaker 1: on for a movie, it's a kid on a spaceship,
Speaker 1: just like rocking out to the Beach Boys and playing
Speaker 1: with little Finger puppets that are supposed to represent extraterrestrial life.
Speaker 1: I like how all of your Only Child fantasies were
Speaker 1: about like I'm a child, but I'm an adult I'm
Speaker 1: still living that life. UM. Well, great, thank you for
Speaker 1: the Yeah, great call, great question. Um And if you
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