WEBVTT - Talkin' Cowboys: Concerns vs. Giants? 0:00:05.720 --> 0:00:08.240 The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 0:00:08.280 --> 0:00:19.680 and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. This He's Talking Cowboys, 0:00:20.079 --> 0:00:23.480 screening live from the Dallas Cowboys World headquarters at the 0:00:23.560 --> 0:00:36.080 Star in Frisco. Here are Mickey Spagnola, Brian Brons, Rob Phillips, 0:00:36.360 --> 0:00:41.479 and Bill Jones. And welcome into Talking Cowboys inside the 0:00:41.640 --> 0:00:46.360 Star in Frisco. Rob Phillips hosting for Bill Jones today, 0:00:46.440 --> 0:00:50.320 Mickey Spagnola to my right, Brian brought us across the table. 0:00:51.720 --> 0:00:54.120 Let's get back to some football man. Sounds good. Let's 0:00:54.120 --> 0:00:57.800 talk Cowboys Giants today. Let's get into a matchup. Fine, yeah, 0:00:57.840 --> 0:01:02.840 it's approaching Sunday eight, Ante Stadium Cowboys Giants, the season opener. 0:01:03.760 --> 0:01:06.039 We got the Zeke stuff taken care of, and you 0:01:06.080 --> 0:01:08.760 know he talked yesterday, so we can get into that 0:01:08.800 --> 0:01:12.679 a little bit. But we have an opponent to discuss. Finally. 0:01:12.800 --> 0:01:14.319 I feel like, sure we haven't gotten to a lot 0:01:14.360 --> 0:01:17.120 of on field stuff lately with all the contract stuff, 0:01:17.600 --> 0:01:21.039 so let's jump into that. Um, how are you today, Mick? 0:01:21.640 --> 0:01:23.520 Did you get all the Zeke stuff off your chest 0:01:23.640 --> 0:01:27.040 and Mike shots yesterday? I feel like you did. Um, yeah, 0:01:27.080 --> 0:01:31.479 I think so. Yeah, but you know, there's always more 0:01:31.520 --> 0:01:35.120 we take into that contract. You'm looking forward to seeing 0:01:35.120 --> 0:01:38.480 those numbers. So Mickey can let us all how like 0:01:38.520 --> 0:01:41.520 the forty two million that's not guaranteed in the last 0:01:41.560 --> 0:01:44.959 three years of the contract. Yeah, So everybody out, and 0:01:45.040 --> 0:01:48.560 I'm gonna say it one last time, saying again everybody's 0:01:48.600 --> 0:01:51.280 bragging about he's got the greatest contract in the world 0:01:51.320 --> 0:01:54.520 and he set the market value not so much. So 0:01:54.600 --> 0:01:57.120 just slow down on that. Only got paid and he's 0:01:57.160 --> 0:01:59.280 happy and the Cowboys are happy. Yeah, it's happy. He's 0:01:59.320 --> 0:02:01.520 gonna be running the ball exactly. They need him to 0:02:01.560 --> 0:02:03.600 do that, and he sounded like it when we talked 0:02:03.600 --> 0:02:04.920 to him. And by the way, we're going to have 0:02:04.920 --> 0:02:08.720 another press conference today at two o'clock. Oh okay, upstairs 0:02:08.720 --> 0:02:10.399 in the room. So there we go. For all those 0:02:10.400 --> 0:02:12.760 people that were trying to come up with some theory 0:02:12.880 --> 0:02:16.040 that oh, Jerry and Seek still not getting along because 0:02:16.080 --> 0:02:19.320 he didn't come back for a press conference. Um, I'd 0:02:19.360 --> 0:02:21.480 love to see Jerry coming back from New York with 0:02:21.520 --> 0:02:24.440 a nose ring for this one, right, Yeah, I'd love 0:02:24.440 --> 0:02:26.640 to see that. He may. That would be awesome. He 0:02:26.720 --> 0:02:29.639 may after all the money right at the stocks change. Yeah, 0:02:29.760 --> 0:02:31.520 he had had a good day in the stock market 0:02:31.600 --> 0:02:33.920 that way, ringing that bell that would absolutely break the 0:02:33.960 --> 0:02:37.680 internet without questions. Oh Jerry had a nose ring. Yeah, absolutely, Yeah, 0:02:37.720 --> 0:02:40.000 And you can just get a little clasp and oh sure, 0:02:40.040 --> 0:02:43.040 I think if you look into that yourself, I have Yeah, 0:02:43.040 --> 0:02:45.399 I kind of like the look, and I don't want 0:02:45.440 --> 0:02:47.880 just one, I gotta have two. Right, Illinois guy, you 0:02:47.880 --> 0:02:50.880 can look tough. Yeah, we're in that ring Mean Street, 0:02:50.960 --> 0:02:54.040 Chicago Heights. That's right. Yeah, Um, okay, so you can 0:02:54.120 --> 0:02:57.000 check out Mickey's fine work on Dallas Cowboys dot com. Bryant, 0:02:57.040 --> 0:03:00.760 you started analyzing the I have'st dive into out a 0:03:00.800 --> 0:03:02.880 little bit um or do you want to get to 0:03:02.880 --> 0:03:05.600 the injuries first? And yeah, let's you go those injuries first. Cowboys. 0:03:05.880 --> 0:03:08.280 Cowboys back to practice day. They're going to practice indoors 0:03:08.480 --> 0:03:11.359 as per usual during the season Thursdays and Fridays. A 0:03:11.400 --> 0:03:14.760 lot of guys happy about that, probably, yes, as Zeke said, yeah, 0:03:14.800 --> 0:03:17.760 I mean it's it's not necessarily bombing and cobo, but 0:03:17.800 --> 0:03:19.880 it was hot out there yesterday for in his first 0:03:19.919 --> 0:03:22.079 practice back. What what'd you see from the injury report 0:03:22.120 --> 0:03:25.560 with the Cowboys and Giants. It was awfully encouraging, right. Yeah. 0:03:25.600 --> 0:03:28.240 The only guy that was listed on there that we 0:03:28.440 --> 0:03:33.280 didn't know was limited was Zach Martin and everybody else 0:03:33.280 --> 0:03:35.160 other than the three guys that we knew were going 0:03:35.240 --> 0:03:38.640 to be out, Um, you know they're out. So those 0:03:38.640 --> 0:03:41.640 are Luke Gifford, Darry and Thompson and Donovan Wilson. Right, 0:03:41.800 --> 0:03:44.280 so those are three inactives right there if you want 0:03:44.280 --> 0:03:46.880 to start that game. Yeah, yeah, that'll be the three 0:03:46.920 --> 0:03:49.440 for tomorrow. And then figure out that they probably might 0:03:49.480 --> 0:03:52.720 have been inactive. Thompson might have Thompson might have played, 0:03:52.720 --> 0:03:54.360 you're right, but the other guys were probably going to 0:03:54.400 --> 0:03:57.960 be inactive anyway. So yeah, I thought it was encouraging 0:03:58.040 --> 0:04:00.760 that all those other guys coming back from surgeries and 0:04:01.240 --> 0:04:06.640 we're missing training camp h you know, primarily Byron Jones 0:04:07.240 --> 0:04:10.560 to Marcus Lawrence, Tyrone Crawford, we're out there and the 0:04:10.640 --> 0:04:13.000 two tight ends were out there who hadn't done much 0:04:13.000 --> 0:04:15.480 in two weeks. So yeah, I thought that from an 0:04:15.480 --> 0:04:18.000 injury standpoint, that was very encouraging. I think a big 0:04:18.000 --> 0:04:21.400 one too, is Maury Cooper out there practice and I 0:04:21.480 --> 0:04:24.400 forgot no, no, and it's easy. It's not. I'm not 0:04:24.440 --> 0:04:26.280 saying it's easy forgetting, but I'm just saying he's such 0:04:26.279 --> 0:04:28.400 a quiet guy. He kind of goes about his job. 0:04:28.839 --> 0:04:30.479 I think this is going to be a key for 0:04:30.520 --> 0:04:33.040 the Cowboys this weekend playing this game, is can they 0:04:33.080 --> 0:04:36.359 take advantage of the rookie Baker on one side and 0:04:36.400 --> 0:04:39.000 then Jenkins on the other. You know, we have a 0:04:39.040 --> 0:04:41.919 gambler and a rookie, so you know, on the past 0:04:41.960 --> 0:04:44.719 protection I believe will hold up, you know, Zach Martin. 0:04:45.080 --> 0:04:47.720 It's funny guys with all these you know they're talking 0:04:47.720 --> 0:04:51.200 about oh well, you know, and you know, Coach made 0:04:51.200 --> 0:04:53.159 mention him today. He's like, well, we're not to the 0:04:53.200 --> 0:04:55.120 pitch count point. But I think in their mind they 0:04:55.120 --> 0:04:56.920 have an idea of how much they want to play Zeke, 0:04:56.960 --> 0:04:59.360 how much they want to play Lawrence. But the one 0:04:59.400 --> 0:05:01.039 guy we talked about, it was kind of on the 0:05:01.040 --> 0:05:03.440 injury report was Zach Martin. He's the one guy that 0:05:03.480 --> 0:05:07.000 will probably play the majority of the snaps and so 0:05:07.720 --> 0:05:09.560 no pitch count for him. He's going to go out 0:05:09.600 --> 0:05:11.880 there and play. So everyone else is kind of in 0:05:11.920 --> 0:05:14.960 that mode where they're gonna you know, so they're obviously 0:05:14.960 --> 0:05:17.000 gonna rest him a little bit in practice if they 0:05:17.040 --> 0:05:19.960 can to get him through that game, sue Afilo being 0:05:20.000 --> 0:05:23.440 the backup right there, to do that, to give him 0:05:23.440 --> 0:05:25.800 that little bit of rest this week and then let 0:05:25.880 --> 0:05:28.520 him go if he can full go on Sunday, which 0:05:28.560 --> 0:05:30.320 they need him in there on that inside. And I 0:05:30.360 --> 0:05:32.760 guess it's a little different on the offensive line, right, 0:05:32.800 --> 0:05:35.440 you can't. It's harder to just rotate guys in and 0:05:35.440 --> 0:05:37.720 out and get and give Zach a break within the 0:05:37.880 --> 0:05:39.760 course of the game. Right. If you get ahead, you 0:05:39.800 --> 0:05:41.520 get ahead. That's the thing. If you can find a 0:05:41.560 --> 0:05:43.480 way to build a lead in this game, and then 0:05:43.520 --> 0:05:45.720 you can kind of say, okay, we're going to manage 0:05:46.200 --> 0:05:48.039 if you can get in that fourth quarter. But what 0:05:48.080 --> 0:05:50.599 do we know about the Cowboys thirteen to sixteen games, 0:05:50.600 --> 0:05:53.080 it's seven points or less. They play a lot of tight, 0:05:53.200 --> 0:05:56.680 tough games. You know, they occasionally had that one game 0:05:56.680 --> 0:05:59.400 where they blow somebody out. Jacksonville was a great example 0:05:59.440 --> 0:06:02.320 of that. That they get on a role the defense 0:06:02.440 --> 0:06:04.960 is not very good for the opponent. And this very 0:06:04.960 --> 0:06:07.560 well could happen tomorrow for Sunday for the Cowboys. They 0:06:07.600 --> 0:06:10.360 could get on a roll. The Giants could not. We'll 0:06:10.360 --> 0:06:12.240 have trouble maybe with a pass rush and all of 0:06:12.240 --> 0:06:14.800 a sudden they get War down. And even though this 0:06:14.839 --> 0:06:18.359 game is indoors, it still can be with the weather 0:06:18.400 --> 0:06:21.679 outside it could still affect how things are inside that stadium. 0:06:21.680 --> 0:06:24.720 I've seen it done before that way. Man, It's not 0:06:24.760 --> 0:06:27.279 the hundred degree heat, but you do feel that the 0:06:27.360 --> 0:06:30.359 air or the way it is. So the Cowboys need 0:06:30.400 --> 0:06:32.040 to kind of take advantage of that. If they can 0:06:32.200 --> 0:06:34.240 wear these guys down. Yeah, they need to buy a 0:06:34.400 --> 0:06:39.000 dehumidifier for the stadium because humidity still seems still in there. 0:06:39.040 --> 0:06:40.920 It sure does. And you know, and if you get it, 0:06:40.960 --> 0:06:43.440 if you get a defense that gets war down and 0:06:43.560 --> 0:06:46.320 Dallas can wear you down, Dallas can. I have a 0:06:46.320 --> 0:06:48.120 feeling that what we're gonna see from Kelvin Moore is 0:06:48.160 --> 0:06:51.080 he is going to make the Giants defend the complete field. 0:06:51.200 --> 0:06:53.760 He's going to play this game vertically. He's going to 0:06:53.800 --> 0:06:56.720 play it horizontally, And I think that's what if you're 0:06:56.720 --> 0:06:59.480 a Cowboy fan, you have to be excited about the 0:06:59.520 --> 0:07:02.960 possible ability of him with the ball going to the edges, 0:07:03.040 --> 0:07:05.400 running maybe a little bit inside, but the pass is 0:07:05.440 --> 0:07:08.880 going down the field, passes going inside, passes going wide 0:07:09.520 --> 0:07:12.680 to guys quick screens to Cobb and guys like that 0:07:12.680 --> 0:07:14.760 that they can kind of start. He's gonna make these 0:07:14.800 --> 0:07:18.400 giants run the entire field, the entire game, to have 0:07:18.520 --> 0:07:21.480 to defend his offense seeing the other and it won't 0:07:21.480 --> 0:07:25.960 be just Zeke on a pitch count. No, Byron mentioned 0:07:26.040 --> 0:07:31.080 DeMarcus Lawrence and also Tyrone Crawford. Those guys are going 0:07:31.120 --> 0:07:32.880 to be on a pitch count, right. They're not gonna 0:07:32.920 --> 0:07:35.640 send those guys out there to play forty or fifty plays. 0:07:36.000 --> 0:07:39.920 So that means guys like Dorin's, Armstrong carry Hyder depending 0:07:39.920 --> 0:07:43.880 on whose active Taco, those guys got to be ready 0:07:43.920 --> 0:07:45.680 to go. I think yeah, and they're gonna have to 0:07:45.760 --> 0:07:47.640 lean on him. Yeah, I think that's Mickey's got a 0:07:47.640 --> 0:07:49.400 great point there. You know, maybe we get to these 0:07:49.400 --> 0:07:52.160 inactives and it might be Taco might be in inactive. 0:07:52.200 --> 0:07:54.080 They really do like Hyder a lot, They really do 0:07:54.160 --> 0:07:57.280 like Armstrong. Probably they might go a little long at 0:07:57.320 --> 0:08:00.320 that spot. Maybe you dress four tackles five ends to 0:08:00.440 --> 0:08:03.160 get nine to the game in order to try and 0:08:03.520 --> 0:08:05.960 for the rotation that you're going to have to make 0:08:06.040 --> 0:08:09.480 up for because you've got two defensive ends that are 0:08:09.480 --> 0:08:14.000 that are coming off, Like Mickey said, limited practice time 0:08:14.080 --> 0:08:16.920 during training camp or no practice time during training camp. 0:08:17.160 --> 0:08:19.760 They've been practicing out there. They did that everything they 0:08:19.800 --> 0:08:22.840 needed to do yesterday, which is good. That's that's encouraging. 0:08:22.880 --> 0:08:26.840 But game shape and practice shape are two totally different things. 0:08:26.840 --> 0:08:28.600 See and the thing they have going for him there 0:08:28.720 --> 0:08:31.320 is Hyder can go inside and give you some pass rush. 0:08:31.720 --> 0:08:34.600 Tyrone Crawford can go inside and give you some pass rush. 0:08:34.679 --> 0:08:37.760 So maybe you have one lass I don't know, one 0:08:37.920 --> 0:08:40.160 less defensive tackle in there if you want to keep 0:08:40.200 --> 0:08:42.560 more defensive ends. See. The thing about it too, is 0:08:42.640 --> 0:08:45.160 that we've seen with I know Rob, you're gonna get 0:08:45.160 --> 0:08:46.840 to something here, but I just want to point out 0:08:46.880 --> 0:08:48.960 good if we if we get to the point, it 0:08:49.040 --> 0:08:52.360 could come down to if what you think about those 0:08:52.480 --> 0:08:55.320 Mickey Mickey said, the defensive tackles. What if you have 0:08:55.400 --> 0:08:58.640 a guy like Joe Jackson who can play that We've 0:08:58.720 --> 0:09:02.079 seen I've seen him play both as an end on 0:09:02.160 --> 0:09:05.320 both sides and then also play some under tackle. That 0:09:05.440 --> 0:09:07.640 might be a guy. I mean, we've talked about Tristan Hill. 0:09:07.720 --> 0:09:11.679 He just plays as that under tackle. Some different rotation 0:09:11.840 --> 0:09:14.960 combinations that we might have with I think that's going 0:09:15.000 --> 0:09:17.000 to be the hardest thing for them to have to 0:09:17.080 --> 0:09:19.240 come to grips with of who to play in what 0:09:19.360 --> 0:09:22.560 combination to use. All the other positions I think take 0:09:22.600 --> 0:09:25.360 care of itself. The one that's interesting to me also 0:09:25.600 --> 0:09:29.920 is the cornerback spot because Byron Jones. If Byron Jones 0:09:29.960 --> 0:09:33.040 doesn't start this game, that I think they've covered themselves 0:09:33.040 --> 0:09:35.800 with the guys that they have. But you know, Byron 0:09:35.880 --> 0:09:37.839 Jones could be a guy they use off the bench. 0:09:38.520 --> 0:09:39.880 He could be a guy that could play in the 0:09:39.960 --> 0:09:42.360 nickel or a dime if they have to go the route. 0:09:42.760 --> 0:09:45.320 But you know, but they've done such a great nice job. 0:09:45.440 --> 0:09:48.800 Brown has played very well, a Woozier's played very well, 0:09:48.960 --> 0:09:51.199 and Lewis has played very well. So you're really not 0:09:51.320 --> 0:09:54.319 pressed at that cornerback spot like you are maybe at 0:09:54.360 --> 0:09:56.800 the defensive end or the defensive tackle spot. We have 0:09:56.880 --> 0:09:59.560 to play some guys because out of a little bit 0:09:59.600 --> 0:10:02.000 of an as city there and maybe for you know, 0:10:02.160 --> 0:10:06.120 this game with that tight end ingram right, you know Jones, 0:10:06.240 --> 0:10:09.679 we've seen him go inside and exact tight end exactly 0:10:09.720 --> 0:10:12.520 when you go nickel or if it's dime, you say Okay, 0:10:12.559 --> 0:10:15.599 you got treated like a wide receiver. Absolutely, yep. I 0:10:15.600 --> 0:10:18.120 don't see Sterling Shepherd on this injury. I thought that 0:10:18.200 --> 0:10:23.960 was for the genest broken hand thumb fracture thumb, So yeah, 0:10:24.240 --> 0:10:26.360 must have taped it up, spit on it, and let's 0:10:26.360 --> 0:10:28.480 go game week. Let's go with no O b J. 0:10:28.760 --> 0:10:31.000 He's their guy right in the past. Yeah, along with 0:10:31.200 --> 0:10:34.360 along with Ingram who's versatile. Yeah, Ingram's Shepherd and you 0:10:34.400 --> 0:10:37.320 know Cody Lattimore who they got you know, was with 0:10:37.400 --> 0:10:40.400 Denver at one time, you know, was really a bust 0:10:40.440 --> 0:10:42.760 with them as a first round pick. You know, uh 0:10:43.000 --> 0:10:46.680 Darius Slaton as a kid that they got from Auburn. Yeah, 0:10:47.520 --> 0:10:51.880 it's doesn't have the dynamicness to their offense at receiver 0:10:52.000 --> 0:10:54.640 that they once had. Good players. They're may be playing 0:10:54.640 --> 0:10:56.600 a little bit by committee what Dallas tried to do 0:10:56.720 --> 0:10:59.240 last year. So let's see how that goes for them 0:10:59.320 --> 0:11:02.080 long term. They do have two they have they have 0:11:02.120 --> 0:11:04.560 a rare player in that running back though, you know, 0:11:04.640 --> 0:11:06.439 and then you could tell in the walk off today 0:11:06.440 --> 0:11:10.000 with Jason Garrett, you know the the challenges that that 0:11:10.240 --> 0:11:12.280 the defense and I asked them the question in the 0:11:12.360 --> 0:11:15.960 walkoff about do you worry about deef Okay? Just generally, 0:11:16.000 --> 0:11:18.840 we watched these games, you see poor tackling initially because 0:11:18.920 --> 0:11:21.960 starters don't play a lot of the preseason games and 0:11:22.080 --> 0:11:24.480 you don't do a lot of tackling other than practice 0:11:24.520 --> 0:11:29.280 tackling in training camp. Right, So does tackling have to 0:11:29.320 --> 0:11:32.160 be a concern going into this really for both teams? 0:11:32.200 --> 0:11:33.719 I think for every teams. I think we saw it 0:11:33.760 --> 0:11:36.440 in college football the games that we watched last week, 0:11:36.840 --> 0:11:39.200 there was some poor tackling, big plays, And that's the 0:11:39.240 --> 0:11:41.120 problem you run into when you deal with a guy 0:11:41.679 --> 0:11:43.800 like Barkley minds me very much of a guy like 0:11:43.880 --> 0:11:46.880 Barry Sanders. And you guys all know what Barry Sanders was. 0:11:47.320 --> 0:11:50.920 Garrett described him perfect one yard, two yards, four yards, 0:11:50.920 --> 0:11:53.640 five yards, one yard, two yards, eighty seven yards. That's 0:11:53.760 --> 0:11:56.520 that's what you get when you play against these elite 0:11:56.520 --> 0:11:59.360 backs that all of a sudden, you're they're banging their head, 0:11:59.400 --> 0:12:00.960 banging their head, banging their head, and then they all 0:12:00.960 --> 0:12:03.920 of a sudden a mistackle, another mistackle, a third mistackle, 0:12:03.960 --> 0:12:05.640 and now you're in a situation where it's an eighty 0:12:05.679 --> 0:12:08.680 seven yard touchdown. He challenges the ability of your defense 0:12:08.720 --> 0:12:13.240 to tackle at all three levels, all angles, all those problems. Yeah, 0:12:13.320 --> 0:12:15.040 one thing, you know, and it was a small sample 0:12:15.080 --> 0:12:18.160 size in preseason, but the Cowboys secondary did seem to 0:12:18.160 --> 0:12:21.280 tackle well better. Yeah, yeah, that was what was impressive. 0:12:21.280 --> 0:12:23.320 I know, doing the games with Brad on the radio 0:12:23.400 --> 0:12:25.599 that every at the half, I would Brad say what 0:12:25.720 --> 0:12:28.600 impressed you, and I'd say the way that the Woozier tackled, 0:12:28.640 --> 0:12:31.160 the way that Lewis tackled, the way that Brown tackled, 0:12:31.480 --> 0:12:34.360 and so. But you also got these linebackers too. That's 0:12:34.360 --> 0:12:36.720 the strength of this football team, the ability for those 0:12:36.760 --> 0:12:39.920 guys to rally to the football, get bodies there, bring 0:12:39.960 --> 0:12:41.760 this guy to the ground. That's gonna be really really 0:12:41.760 --> 0:12:46.000 important that they get. They play gap, integrity, defense, set 0:12:46.000 --> 0:12:48.800 the edges, be physical, but get that guy on the ground. 0:12:49.400 --> 0:12:51.440 All right, let's take our first break. When we come back, 0:12:51.480 --> 0:12:54.480 we'll continue breaking down this matchup. We'll talk a little Zeke. 0:12:55.240 --> 0:12:58.240 We'll maybe take your questions off a periscope if you've 0:12:58.280 --> 0:13:03.520 got a phone call as well. Taking calls today, Kayden, Okay, yeah, 0:13:03.559 --> 0:13:06.200 give us a shout. Numbers on the screen, I believe 0:13:06.280 --> 0:13:11.360 eight eight, eight, five, five two nine seven. There we go. 0:13:11.440 --> 0:13:13.559 I remember from the Draft show. It's been so long 0:13:13.840 --> 0:13:15.480 as we've done that. All right, Maybe we'll get some 0:13:15.480 --> 0:13:18.400 of those next we come back on Talking Cowboys. Your 0:13:18.400 --> 0:13:24.160 new apartment's big, such a great deal. It's okay, just okay. 0:13:24.280 --> 0:13:30.560 What's not right about the subway? Well, I bet you 0:13:30.559 --> 0:13:35.520 don't even notice it after that's my neighbor. Angus. 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Get your tickets 0:15:28.440 --> 0:15:33.120 now single game tickets at Dallas Cowboys dot com. Welcome 0:15:33.120 --> 0:15:39.200 back inside the SWBC Mortgage Studio, Talking Cowboys rolls on 0:15:41.240 --> 0:15:43.920 as we're talking Cowboys Giants, which you got? I had 0:15:43.960 --> 0:15:47.200 a question since we were watching the Bears and Packers 0:15:47.200 --> 0:15:51.560 getting ready for tonight's game. So I'm not sure what 0:15:51.720 --> 0:15:57.640 I'm missing. But the Packers were less than enthusiastic last year. 0:15:58.480 --> 0:16:01.480 They weren't very good, So why is everybody looking for 0:16:01.520 --> 0:16:03.480 them to be the What have they done to make 0:16:03.520 --> 0:16:08.760 this the turnaround team? Because Aaron Rodgers, Yeah, that to 0:16:08.840 --> 0:16:12.400 me that he's simple. He's to me, he's the one 0:16:12.520 --> 0:16:16.640 guy that if I was picking first, I think i'd 0:16:16.640 --> 0:16:19.280 pick him first. I know it sounds crazy because you 0:16:19.320 --> 0:16:22.520 talk about Brady and all that, and but I think 0:16:22.560 --> 0:16:26.240 that because I've seen him for so many years play 0:16:26.280 --> 0:16:29.160 with He's had really good talented times, he's had really 0:16:29.160 --> 0:16:32.200 bad talented times, but they're always a threat because of him. 0:16:32.280 --> 0:16:34.760 But wasn't he there last year? Or am I missing it? 0:16:34.920 --> 0:16:36.680 Wasn't it two years ago? He was hurt, He was 0:16:36.720 --> 0:16:39.000 hurt a couple of years ago. But yeah, I just 0:16:39.040 --> 0:16:41.520 I don't think They've put a lot enough around him 0:16:41.600 --> 0:16:45.240 the last couple of years. It last year put the 0:16:45.280 --> 0:16:47.160 team on his bell. He go, why is it back 0:16:47.240 --> 0:16:49.920 to chip on his shoulder? Mike, It's just but then 0:16:49.960 --> 0:16:51.640 he hurt his knee in the in the Bears game 0:16:51.720 --> 0:16:54.320 last year at this time, and then he came back 0:16:54.360 --> 0:16:55.840 and everybody, I mean I remember we were in a 0:16:55.840 --> 0:16:57.120 game or we were doing a game, and it's like, 0:16:57.160 --> 0:16:59.080 oh my gosh, Rogers is laying on the field, you know, 0:16:59.120 --> 0:17:01.280 one of those things. I just I just kind of 0:17:01.320 --> 0:17:03.960 feel like, though, did he's the one guy in this 0:17:04.040 --> 0:17:07.560 league that you would pick to say, Okay, he could 0:17:07.640 --> 0:17:09.920 beat you with his guys, and then he could take 0:17:10.040 --> 0:17:12.600 your guys and beat you with your guys. You know 0:17:12.640 --> 0:17:14.159 that kind of thing. It's the old saying that they 0:17:14.240 --> 0:17:17.440 used to talk about coaches and stuff. But he's just 0:17:17.640 --> 0:17:20.480 that he's got that unique ability. And I understand what 0:17:20.560 --> 0:17:22.960 you're saying, Mickey. And again, I mean, I didn't know 0:17:23.040 --> 0:17:25.800 that they added somebody that like turned this whole thing 0:17:25.840 --> 0:17:28.240 around from last year. I was, no, they've actually lost 0:17:28.280 --> 0:17:30.880 some guys year enough. I miss Clay Matthews has moved 0:17:30.880 --> 0:17:33.000 on to the Rams. I mean, they've lost some guys. 0:17:33.320 --> 0:17:37.600 So yeah, I think changing coaches, changing coaches, you know, 0:17:37.760 --> 0:17:40.880 some new ideas. It comes down to number twelve. Right, 0:17:41.119 --> 0:17:44.240 I've said this on the show before. Tiger Woods is 0:17:44.240 --> 0:17:46.280 not going to end up probably with the same the 0:17:46.359 --> 0:17:49.120 major title. Right, But if you just knew the eye test, 0:17:49.240 --> 0:17:51.359 he's the best you've ever seen. That's how I feel 0:17:51.359 --> 0:17:54.640 about Rogers, honestly, like I think he's he doesn't have weaknesses. 0:17:54.680 --> 0:17:57.160 The only his problem has been he's gotten hurt. That's 0:17:57.200 --> 0:17:59.480 that's really the only drawback for him. All right, Well, 0:17:59.680 --> 0:18:01.840 maybe I forgot last year because I knew he was 0:18:01.880 --> 0:18:04.639 hurt in twenty seventeen when they had to play the 0:18:04.320 --> 0:18:07.040 test quarterback. Yeah, but I saw all these people picking 0:18:07.040 --> 0:18:08.960 them to go to Chicago and win, and I'm going, 0:18:08.960 --> 0:18:11.360 how come. Yeah, the Beardown Bears, you got to watch them. 0:18:11.359 --> 0:18:14.240 The bear Down Bears are got man. That defense is 0:18:14.680 --> 0:18:17.199 for real. We've seen games. I mean the Rams went 0:18:17.280 --> 0:18:19.679 there late in the year and just got destroyed. Not 0:18:19.760 --> 0:18:22.199 on the scoreboard, but man, I remember watching that tape. 0:18:22.800 --> 0:18:24.880 I'm thinking, Okay, this is how you beat the Rams. 0:18:25.000 --> 0:18:28.040 And then it was cold and get after them. And 0:18:28.680 --> 0:18:31.720 but that's that's like old school Bears, old school Bears, 0:18:31.880 --> 0:18:33.520 but they kind of reminded me of the Cowboys a 0:18:33.560 --> 0:18:36.600 little bit. They got a nasty looking defense, and they 0:18:36.640 --> 0:18:40.399 got a young quarterback that you think will continue to ascend. Ye, 0:18:40.680 --> 0:18:42.280 So they're a team to watch in the NFCA. This 0:18:42.280 --> 0:18:44.439 should be fun. Get this thing rolling, you know what, 0:18:44.480 --> 0:18:46.720 you'll know a lot about this Dallas sat, this Dallas 0:18:46.760 --> 0:18:49.240 Cowboy team as we go along. By the by the 0:18:49.359 --> 0:18:51.560 end of it, it's you know, either gonna be talking 0:18:51.560 --> 0:18:53.560 about it bends a team. It's can make a great 0:18:53.640 --> 0:18:56.159 run because they're gonna play all the best teams in 0:18:56.200 --> 0:18:59.359 the NFC. You know you're gonna play the Saints, the Packers, 0:18:59.400 --> 0:19:02.120 the Bears, You're gonna play the Rams. You know you're 0:19:02.119 --> 0:19:04.280 gonna play them all. And so you're gonna have a 0:19:04.280 --> 0:19:05.639 good test. And then you're gonna have to go to 0:19:05.680 --> 0:19:08.560 Foxborough to play a game too. And now we've passed 0:19:08.600 --> 0:19:10.959 that test. So by the end of this campaign, you 0:19:10.960 --> 0:19:13.199 will know exactly what this football team is if it 0:19:13.240 --> 0:19:15.240 does have a chance to do well in the playoffs, 0:19:15.640 --> 0:19:16.960 or if it's going to be a team that could 0:19:17.000 --> 0:19:19.240 be in the playoffs but probably won't have the success 0:19:19.280 --> 0:19:21.840 because they couldn't get over the hump of beaten some 0:19:21.880 --> 0:19:23.400 of those teams that they needed to be. I think 0:19:23.400 --> 0:19:26.280 I saw where the schedule here is ranked like midpack, 0:19:26.480 --> 0:19:29.639 like fourteenth or fifteenth. I think that's right. Seems harder 0:19:29.640 --> 0:19:32.439 than that on paper. Oh, I don't want to have 0:19:32.480 --> 0:19:34.640 to go play the Bears in December. I don't want 0:19:34.640 --> 0:19:36.720 to have to play bring the Rams here. You never 0:19:36.760 --> 0:19:39.400 know what's going to happen injury wise, you really don't. 0:19:39.480 --> 0:19:41.000 You don't know what the shape of these teams are 0:19:41.000 --> 0:19:43.800 gonna be. But if you just say it on paper, Yeah, 0:19:43.880 --> 0:19:46.520 if I'm the Giants, I would much rather play Detroit 0:19:46.600 --> 0:19:49.880 in Arizona than I would have to play the Saints 0:19:49.880 --> 0:19:52.399 and the Rams. You know, I just that's just me 0:19:52.520 --> 0:19:54.320 right now. Those are two games. I kind of feel 0:19:54.359 --> 0:19:57.000 like that, if you had the opportunity, you would say, Okay, 0:19:57.119 --> 0:20:01.200