1 00:00:05,720 --> 00:00:08,240 Speaker 1: The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 2 00:00:08,280 --> 00:00:19,680 Speaker 1: and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. This He's Talking Cowboys, 3 00:00:20,079 --> 00:00:23,480 Speaker 1: screening live from the Dallas Cowboys World headquarters at the 4 00:00:23,560 --> 00:00:36,080 Speaker 1: Star in Frisco. Here are Mickey Spagnola, Brian Brons, Rob Phillips, 5 00:00:36,360 --> 00:00:41,479 Speaker 1: and Bill Jones. And welcome into Talking Cowboys inside the 6 00:00:41,640 --> 00:00:46,360 Speaker 1: Star in Frisco. Rob Phillips hosting for Bill Jones today, 7 00:00:46,440 --> 00:00:50,320 Speaker 1: Mickey Spagnola to my right, Brian brought us across the table. 8 00:00:51,720 --> 00:00:54,120 Speaker 1: Let's get back to some football man. Sounds good. Let's 9 00:00:54,120 --> 00:00:57,800 Speaker 1: talk Cowboys Giants today. Let's get into a matchup. Fine, yeah, 10 00:00:57,840 --> 00:01:02,840 Speaker 1: it's approaching Sunday eight, Ante Stadium Cowboys Giants, the season opener. 11 00:01:03,760 --> 00:01:06,039 Speaker 1: We got the Zeke stuff taken care of, and you 12 00:01:06,080 --> 00:01:08,760 Speaker 1: know he talked yesterday, so we can get into that 13 00:01:08,800 --> 00:01:12,679 Speaker 1: a little bit. But we have an opponent to discuss. Finally. 14 00:01:12,800 --> 00:01:14,319 Speaker 1: I feel like, sure we haven't gotten to a lot 15 00:01:14,360 --> 00:01:17,120 Speaker 1: of on field stuff lately with all the contract stuff, 16 00:01:17,600 --> 00:01:21,039 Speaker 1: so let's jump into that. Um, how are you today, Mick? 17 00:01:21,640 --> 00:01:23,520 Speaker 1: Did you get all the Zeke stuff off your chest 18 00:01:23,640 --> 00:01:27,040 Speaker 1: and Mike shots yesterday? I feel like you did. Um, yeah, 19 00:01:27,080 --> 00:01:31,479 Speaker 1: I think so. Yeah, but you know, there's always more 20 00:01:31,520 --> 00:01:35,120 Speaker 1: we take into that contract. You'm looking forward to seeing 21 00:01:35,120 --> 00:01:38,480 Speaker 1: those numbers. So Mickey can let us all how like 22 00:01:38,520 --> 00:01:41,520 Speaker 1: the forty two million that's not guaranteed in the last 23 00:01:41,560 --> 00:01:44,959 Speaker 1: three years of the contract. Yeah, So everybody out, and 24 00:01:45,040 --> 00:01:48,560 Speaker 1: I'm gonna say it one last time, saying again everybody's 25 00:01:48,600 --> 00:01:51,280 Speaker 1: bragging about he's got the greatest contract in the world 26 00:01:51,320 --> 00:01:54,520 Speaker 1: and he set the market value not so much. So 27 00:01:54,600 --> 00:01:57,120 Speaker 1: just slow down on that. Only got paid and he's 28 00:01:57,160 --> 00:01:59,280 Speaker 1: happy and the Cowboys are happy. Yeah, it's happy. He's 29 00:01:59,320 --> 00:02:01,520 Speaker 1: gonna be running the ball exactly. They need him to 30 00:02:01,560 --> 00:02:03,600 Speaker 1: do that, and he sounded like it when we talked 31 00:02:03,600 --> 00:02:04,920 Speaker 1: to him. And by the way, we're going to have 32 00:02:04,920 --> 00:02:08,720 Speaker 1: another press conference today at two o'clock. Oh okay, upstairs 33 00:02:08,720 --> 00:02:10,399 Speaker 1: in the room. So there we go. For all those 34 00:02:10,400 --> 00:02:12,760 Speaker 1: people that were trying to come up with some theory 35 00:02:12,880 --> 00:02:16,040 Speaker 1: that oh, Jerry and Seek still not getting along because 36 00:02:16,080 --> 00:02:19,320 Speaker 1: he didn't come back for a press conference. Um, I'd 37 00:02:19,360 --> 00:02:21,480 Speaker 1: love to see Jerry coming back from New York with 38 00:02:21,520 --> 00:02:24,440 Speaker 1: a nose ring for this one, right, Yeah, I'd love 39 00:02:24,440 --> 00:02:26,640 Speaker 1: to see that. He may. That would be awesome. He 40 00:02:26,720 --> 00:02:29,639 Speaker 1: may after all the money right at the stocks change. Yeah, 41 00:02:29,760 --> 00:02:31,520 Speaker 1: he had had a good day in the stock market 42 00:02:31,600 --> 00:02:33,920 Speaker 1: that way, ringing that bell that would absolutely break the 43 00:02:33,960 --> 00:02:37,680 Speaker 1: internet without questions. Oh Jerry had a nose ring. Yeah, absolutely, Yeah, 44 00:02:37,720 --> 00:02:40,000 Speaker 1: And you can just get a little clasp and oh sure, 45 00:02:40,040 --> 00:02:43,040 Speaker 1: I think if you look into that yourself, I have Yeah, 46 00:02:43,040 --> 00:02:45,399 Speaker 1: I kind of like the look, and I don't want 47 00:02:45,440 --> 00:02:47,880 Speaker 1: just one, I gotta have two. Right, Illinois guy, you 48 00:02:47,880 --> 00:02:50,880 Speaker 1: can look tough. Yeah, we're in that ring Mean Street, 49 00:02:50,960 --> 00:02:54,040 Speaker 1: Chicago Heights. That's right. Yeah, Um, okay, so you can 50 00:02:54,120 --> 00:02:57,000 Speaker 1: check out Mickey's fine work on Dallas Cowboys dot com. Bryant, 51 00:02:57,040 --> 00:03:00,760 Speaker 1: you started analyzing the I have'st dive into out a 52 00:03:00,800 --> 00:03:02,880 Speaker 1: little bit um or do you want to get to 53 00:03:02,880 --> 00:03:05,600 Speaker 1: the injuries first? And yeah, let's you go those injuries first. Cowboys. 54 00:03:05,880 --> 00:03:08,280 Speaker 1: Cowboys back to practice day. They're going to practice indoors 55 00:03:08,480 --> 00:03:11,359 Speaker 1: as per usual during the season Thursdays and Fridays. A 56 00:03:11,400 --> 00:03:14,760 Speaker 1: lot of guys happy about that, probably, yes, as Zeke said, yeah, 57 00:03:14,800 --> 00:03:17,760 Speaker 1: I mean it's it's not necessarily bombing and cobo, but 58 00:03:17,800 --> 00:03:19,880 Speaker 1: it was hot out there yesterday for in his first 59 00:03:19,919 --> 00:03:22,079 Speaker 1: practice back. What what'd you see from the injury report 60 00:03:22,120 --> 00:03:25,560 Speaker 1: with the Cowboys and Giants. It was awfully encouraging, right. Yeah. 61 00:03:25,600 --> 00:03:28,240 Speaker 1: The only guy that was listed on there that we 62 00:03:28,440 --> 00:03:33,280 Speaker 1: didn't know was limited was Zach Martin and everybody else 63 00:03:33,280 --> 00:03:35,160 Speaker 1: other than the three guys that we knew were going 64 00:03:35,240 --> 00:03:38,640 Speaker 1: to be out, Um, you know they're out. So those 65 00:03:38,640 --> 00:03:41,640 Speaker 1: are Luke Gifford, Darry and Thompson and Donovan Wilson. Right, 66 00:03:41,800 --> 00:03:44,280 Speaker 1: so those are three inactives right there if you want 67 00:03:44,280 --> 00:03:46,880 Speaker 1: to start that game. Yeah, yeah, that'll be the three 68 00:03:46,920 --> 00:03:49,440 Speaker 1: for tomorrow. And then figure out that they probably might 69 00:03:49,480 --> 00:03:52,720 Speaker 1: have been inactive. Thompson might have Thompson might have played, 70 00:03:52,720 --> 00:03:54,360 Speaker 1: you're right, but the other guys were probably going to 71 00:03:54,400 --> 00:03:57,960 Speaker 1: be inactive anyway. So yeah, I thought it was encouraging 72 00:03:58,040 --> 00:04:00,760 Speaker 1: that all those other guys coming back from surgeries and 73 00:04:01,240 --> 00:04:06,640 Speaker 1: we're missing training camp h you know, primarily Byron Jones 74 00:04:07,240 --> 00:04:10,560 Speaker 1: to Marcus Lawrence, Tyrone Crawford, we're out there and the 75 00:04:10,640 --> 00:04:13,000 Speaker 1: two tight ends were out there who hadn't done much 76 00:04:13,000 --> 00:04:15,480 Speaker 1: in two weeks. So yeah, I thought that from an 77 00:04:15,480 --> 00:04:18,000 Speaker 1: injury standpoint, that was very encouraging. I think a big 78 00:04:18,000 --> 00:04:21,400 Speaker 1: one too, is Maury Cooper out there practice and I 79 00:04:21,480 --> 00:04:24,400 Speaker 1: forgot no, no, and it's easy. It's not. I'm not 80 00:04:24,440 --> 00:04:26,280 Speaker 1: saying it's easy forgetting, but I'm just saying he's such 81 00:04:26,279 --> 00:04:28,400 Speaker 1: a quiet guy. He kind of goes about his job. 82 00:04:28,839 --> 00:04:30,479 Speaker 1: I think this is going to be a key for 83 00:04:30,520 --> 00:04:33,040 Speaker 1: the Cowboys this weekend playing this game, is can they 84 00:04:33,080 --> 00:04:36,359 Speaker 1: take advantage of the rookie Baker on one side and 85 00:04:36,400 --> 00:04:39,000 Speaker 1: then Jenkins on the other. You know, we have a 86 00:04:39,040 --> 00:04:41,919 Speaker 1: gambler and a rookie, so you know, on the past 87 00:04:41,960 --> 00:04:44,719 Speaker 1: protection I believe will hold up, you know, Zach Martin. 88 00:04:45,080 --> 00:04:47,720 Speaker 1: It's funny guys with all these you know they're talking 89 00:04:47,720 --> 00:04:51,200 Speaker 1: about oh well, you know, and you know, Coach made 90 00:04:51,200 --> 00:04:53,159 Speaker 1: mention him today. He's like, well, we're not to the 91 00:04:53,200 --> 00:04:55,120 Speaker 1: pitch count point. But I think in their mind they 92 00:04:55,120 --> 00:04:56,920 Speaker 1: have an idea of how much they want to play Zeke, 93 00:04:56,960 --> 00:04:59,360 Speaker 1: how much they want to play Lawrence. But the one 94 00:04:59,400 --> 00:05:01,039 Speaker 1: guy we talked about, it was kind of on the 95 00:05:01,040 --> 00:05:03,440 Speaker 1: injury report was Zach Martin. He's the one guy that 96 00:05:03,480 --> 00:05:07,000 Speaker 1: will probably play the majority of the snaps and so 97 00:05:07,720 --> 00:05:09,560 Speaker 1: no pitch count for him. He's going to go out 98 00:05:09,600 --> 00:05:11,880 Speaker 1: there and play. So everyone else is kind of in 99 00:05:11,920 --> 00:05:14,960 Speaker 1: that mode where they're gonna you know, so they're obviously 100 00:05:14,960 --> 00:05:17,000 Speaker 1: gonna rest him a little bit in practice if they 101 00:05:17,040 --> 00:05:19,960 Speaker 1: can to get him through that game, sue Afilo being 102 00:05:20,000 --> 00:05:23,440 Speaker 1: the backup right there, to do that, to give him 103 00:05:23,440 --> 00:05:25,800 Speaker 1: that little bit of rest this week and then let 104 00:05:25,880 --> 00:05:28,520 Speaker 1: him go if he can full go on Sunday, which 105 00:05:28,560 --> 00:05:30,320 Speaker 1: they need him in there on that inside. And I 106 00:05:30,360 --> 00:05:32,760 Speaker 1: guess it's a little different on the offensive line, right, 107 00:05:32,800 --> 00:05:35,440 Speaker 1: you can't. It's harder to just rotate guys in and 108 00:05:35,440 --> 00:05:37,720 Speaker 1: out and get and give Zach a break within the 109 00:05:37,880 --> 00:05:39,760 Speaker 1: course of the game. Right. If you get ahead, you 110 00:05:39,800 --> 00:05:41,520 Speaker 1: get ahead. That's the thing. If you can find a 111 00:05:41,560 --> 00:05:43,480 Speaker 1: way to build a lead in this game, and then 112 00:05:43,520 --> 00:05:45,720 Speaker 1: you can kind of say, okay, we're going to manage 113 00:05:46,200 --> 00:05:48,039 Speaker 1: if you can get in that fourth quarter. But what 114 00:05:48,080 --> 00:05:50,599 Speaker 1: do we know about the Cowboys thirteen to sixteen games, 115 00:05:50,600 --> 00:05:53,080 Speaker 1: it's seven points or less. They play a lot of tight, 116 00:05:53,200 --> 00:05:56,680 Speaker 1: tough games. You know, they occasionally had that one game 117 00:05:56,680 --> 00:05:59,400 Speaker 1: where they blow somebody out. Jacksonville was a great example 118 00:05:59,440 --> 00:06:02,320 Speaker 1: of that. That they get on a role the defense 119 00:06:02,440 --> 00:06:04,960 Speaker 1: is not very good for the opponent. And this very 120 00:06:04,960 --> 00:06:07,560 Speaker 1: well could happen tomorrow for Sunday for the Cowboys. They 121 00:06:07,600 --> 00:06:10,360 Speaker 1: could get on a roll. The Giants could not. We'll 122 00:06:10,360 --> 00:06:12,240 Speaker 1: have trouble maybe with a pass rush and all of 123 00:06:12,240 --> 00:06:14,800 Speaker 1: a sudden they get War down. And even though this 124 00:06:14,839 --> 00:06:18,359 Speaker 1: game is indoors, it still can be with the weather 125 00:06:18,400 --> 00:06:21,679 Speaker 1: outside it could still affect how things are inside that stadium. 126 00:06:21,680 --> 00:06:24,720 Speaker 1: I've seen it done before that way. Man, It's not 127 00:06:24,760 --> 00:06:27,279 Speaker 1: the hundred degree heat, but you do feel that the 128 00:06:27,360 --> 00:06:30,359 Speaker 1: air or the way it is. So the Cowboys need 129 00:06:30,400 --> 00:06:32,040 Speaker 1: to kind of take advantage of that. If they can 130 00:06:32,200 --> 00:06:34,240 Speaker 1: wear these guys down. Yeah, they need to buy a 131 00:06:34,400 --> 00:06:39,000 Speaker 1: dehumidifier for the stadium because humidity still seems still in there. 132 00:06:39,040 --> 00:06:40,920 Speaker 1: It sure does. And you know, and if you get it, 133 00:06:40,960 --> 00:06:43,440 Speaker 1: if you get a defense that gets war down and 134 00:06:43,560 --> 00:06:46,320 Speaker 1: Dallas can wear you down, Dallas can. I have a 135 00:06:46,320 --> 00:06:48,120 Speaker 1: feeling that what we're gonna see from Kelvin Moore is 136 00:06:48,160 --> 00:06:51,080 Speaker 1: he is going to make the Giants defend the complete field. 137 00:06:51,200 --> 00:06:53,760 Speaker 1: He's going to play this game vertically. He's going to 138 00:06:53,800 --> 00:06:56,720 Speaker 1: play it horizontally, And I think that's what if you're 139 00:06:56,720 --> 00:06:59,480 Speaker 1: a Cowboy fan, you have to be excited about the 140 00:06:59,520 --> 00:07:02,960 Speaker 1: possible ability of him with the ball going to the edges, 141 00:07:03,040 --> 00:07:05,400 Speaker 1: running maybe a little bit inside, but the pass is 142 00:07:05,440 --> 00:07:08,880 Speaker 1: going down the field, passes going inside, passes going wide 143 00:07:09,520 --> 00:07:12,680 Speaker 1: to guys quick screens to Cobb and guys like that 144 00:07:12,680 --> 00:07:14,760 Speaker 1: that they can kind of start. He's gonna make these 145 00:07:14,800 --> 00:07:18,400 Speaker 1: giants run the entire field, the entire game, to have 146 00:07:18,520 --> 00:07:21,480 Speaker 1: to defend his offense seeing the other and it won't 147 00:07:21,480 --> 00:07:25,960 Speaker 1: be just Zeke on a pitch count. No, Byron mentioned 148 00:07:26,040 --> 00:07:31,080 Speaker 1: DeMarcus Lawrence and also Tyrone Crawford. Those guys are going 149 00:07:31,120 --> 00:07:32,880 Speaker 1: to be on a pitch count, right. They're not gonna 150 00:07:32,920 --> 00:07:35,640 Speaker 1: send those guys out there to play forty or fifty plays. 151 00:07:36,000 --> 00:07:39,920 Speaker 1: So that means guys like Dorin's, Armstrong carry Hyder depending 152 00:07:39,920 --> 00:07:43,880 Speaker 1: on whose active Taco, those guys got to be ready 153 00:07:43,920 --> 00:07:45,680 Speaker 1: to go. I think yeah, and they're gonna have to 154 00:07:45,760 --> 00:07:47,640 Speaker 1: lean on him. Yeah, I think that's Mickey's got a 155 00:07:47,640 --> 00:07:49,400 Speaker 1: great point there. You know, maybe we get to these 156 00:07:49,400 --> 00:07:52,160 Speaker 1: inactives and it might be Taco might be in inactive. 157 00:07:52,200 --> 00:07:54,080 Speaker 1: They really do like Hyder a lot, They really do 158 00:07:54,160 --> 00:07:57,280 Speaker 1: like Armstrong. Probably they might go a little long at 159 00:07:57,320 --> 00:08:00,320 Speaker 1: that spot. Maybe you dress four tackles five ends to 160 00:08:00,440 --> 00:08:03,160 Speaker 1: get nine to the game in order to try and 161 00:08:03,520 --> 00:08:05,960 Speaker 1: for the rotation that you're going to have to make 162 00:08:06,040 --> 00:08:09,480 Speaker 1: up for because you've got two defensive ends that are 163 00:08:09,480 --> 00:08:14,000 Speaker 1: that are coming off, Like Mickey said, limited practice time 164 00:08:14,080 --> 00:08:16,920 Speaker 1: during training camp or no practice time during training camp. 165 00:08:17,160 --> 00:08:19,760 Speaker 1: They've been practicing out there. They did that everything they 166 00:08:19,800 --> 00:08:22,840 Speaker 1: needed to do yesterday, which is good. That's that's encouraging. 167 00:08:22,880 --> 00:08:26,840 Speaker 1: But game shape and practice shape are two totally different things. 168 00:08:26,840 --> 00:08:28,600 Speaker 1: See and the thing they have going for him there 169 00:08:28,720 --> 00:08:31,320 Speaker 1: is Hyder can go inside and give you some pass rush. 170 00:08:31,720 --> 00:08:34,600 Speaker 1: Tyrone Crawford can go inside and give you some pass rush. 171 00:08:34,679 --> 00:08:37,760 Speaker 1: So maybe you have one lass I don't know, one 172 00:08:37,920 --> 00:08:40,160 Speaker 1: less defensive tackle in there if you want to keep 173 00:08:40,200 --> 00:08:42,560 Speaker 1: more defensive ends. See. The thing about it too, is 174 00:08:42,640 --> 00:08:45,160 Speaker 1: that we've seen with I know Rob, you're gonna get 175 00:08:45,160 --> 00:08:46,840 Speaker 1: to something here, but I just want to point out 176 00:08:46,880 --> 00:08:48,960 Speaker 1: good if we if we get to the point, it 177 00:08:49,040 --> 00:08:52,360 Speaker 1: could come down to if what you think about those 178 00:08:52,480 --> 00:08:55,320 Speaker 1: Mickey Mickey said, the defensive tackles. What if you have 179 00:08:55,400 --> 00:08:58,640 Speaker 1: a guy like Joe Jackson who can play that We've 180 00:08:58,720 --> 00:09:02,079 Speaker 1: seen I've seen him play both as an end on 181 00:09:02,160 --> 00:09:05,320 Speaker 1: both sides and then also play some under tackle. That 182 00:09:05,440 --> 00:09:07,640 Speaker 1: might be a guy. I mean, we've talked about Tristan Hill. 183 00:09:07,720 --> 00:09:11,679 Speaker 1: He just plays as that under tackle. Some different rotation 184 00:09:11,840 --> 00:09:14,960 Speaker 1: combinations that we might have with I think that's going 185 00:09:15,000 --> 00:09:17,000 Speaker 1: to be the hardest thing for them to have to 186 00:09:17,080 --> 00:09:19,240 Speaker 1: come to grips with of who to play in what 187 00:09:19,360 --> 00:09:22,560 Speaker 1: combination to use. All the other positions I think take 188 00:09:22,600 --> 00:09:25,360 Speaker 1: care of itself. The one that's interesting to me also 189 00:09:25,600 --> 00:09:29,920 Speaker 1: is the cornerback spot because Byron Jones. If Byron Jones 190 00:09:29,960 --> 00:09:33,040 Speaker 1: doesn't start this game, that I think they've covered themselves 191 00:09:33,040 --> 00:09:35,800 Speaker 1: with the guys that they have. But you know, Byron 192 00:09:35,880 --> 00:09:37,839 Speaker 1: Jones could be a guy they use off the bench. 193 00:09:38,520 --> 00:09:39,880 Speaker 1: He could be a guy that could play in the 194 00:09:39,960 --> 00:09:42,360 Speaker 1: nickel or a dime if they have to go the route. 195 00:09:42,760 --> 00:09:45,320 Speaker 1: But you know, but they've done such a great nice job. 196 00:09:45,440 --> 00:09:48,800 Speaker 1: Brown has played very well, a Woozier's played very well, 197 00:09:48,960 --> 00:09:51,199 Speaker 1: and Lewis has played very well. So you're really not 198 00:09:51,320 --> 00:09:54,319 Speaker 1: pressed at that cornerback spot like you are maybe at 199 00:09:54,360 --> 00:09:56,800 Speaker 1: the defensive end or the defensive tackle spot. We have 200 00:09:56,880 --> 00:09:59,560 Speaker 1: to play some guys because out of a little bit 201 00:09:59,600 --> 00:10:02,000 Speaker 1: of an as city there and maybe for you know, 202 00:10:02,160 --> 00:10:06,120 Speaker 1: this game with that tight end ingram right, you know Jones, 203 00:10:06,240 --> 00:10:09,679 Speaker 1: we've seen him go inside and exact tight end exactly 204 00:10:09,720 --> 00:10:12,520 Speaker 1: when you go nickel or if it's dime, you say Okay, 205 00:10:12,559 --> 00:10:15,599 Speaker 1: you got treated like a wide receiver. Absolutely, yep. I 206 00:10:15,600 --> 00:10:18,120 Speaker 1: don't see Sterling Shepherd on this injury. I thought that 207 00:10:18,200 --> 00:10:23,960 Speaker 1: was for the genest broken hand thumb fracture thumb, So yeah, 208 00:10:24,240 --> 00:10:26,360 Speaker 1: must have taped it up, spit on it, and let's 209 00:10:26,360 --> 00:10:28,480 Speaker 1: go game week. Let's go with no O b J. 210 00:10:28,760 --> 00:10:31,000 Speaker 1: He's their guy right in the past. Yeah, along with 211 00:10:31,200 --> 00:10:34,360 Speaker 1: along with Ingram who's versatile. Yeah, Ingram's Shepherd and you 212 00:10:34,400 --> 00:10:37,320 Speaker 1: know Cody Lattimore who they got you know, was with 213 00:10:37,400 --> 00:10:40,400 Speaker 1: Denver at one time, you know, was really a bust 214 00:10:40,440 --> 00:10:42,760 Speaker 1: with them as a first round pick. You know, uh 215 00:10:43,000 --> 00:10:46,680 Speaker 1: Darius Slaton as a kid that they got from Auburn. Yeah, 216 00:10:47,520 --> 00:10:51,880 Speaker 1: it's doesn't have the dynamicness to their offense at receiver 217 00:10:52,000 --> 00:10:54,640 Speaker 1: that they once had. Good players. They're may be playing 218 00:10:54,640 --> 00:10:56,600 Speaker 1: a little bit by committee what Dallas tried to do 219 00:10:56,720 --> 00:10:59,240 Speaker 1: last year. So let's see how that goes for them 220 00:10:59,320 --> 00:11:02,080 Speaker 1: long term. They do have two they have they have 221 00:11:02,120 --> 00:11:04,560 Speaker 1: a rare player in that running back though, you know, 222 00:11:04,640 --> 00:11:06,439 Speaker 1: and then you could tell in the walk off today 223 00:11:06,440 --> 00:11:10,000 Speaker 1: with Jason Garrett, you know the the challenges that that 224 00:11:10,240 --> 00:11:12,280 Speaker 1: the defense and I asked them the question in the 225 00:11:12,360 --> 00:11:15,960 Speaker 1: walkoff about do you worry about deef Okay? Just generally, 226 00:11:16,000 --> 00:11:18,840 Speaker 1: we watched these games, you see poor tackling initially because 227 00:11:18,920 --> 00:11:21,960 Speaker 1: starters don't play a lot of the preseason games and 228 00:11:22,080 --> 00:11:24,480 Speaker 1: you don't do a lot of tackling other than practice 229 00:11:24,520 --> 00:11:29,280 Speaker 1: tackling in training camp. Right, So does tackling have to 230 00:11:29,320 --> 00:11:32,160 Speaker 1: be a concern going into this really for both teams? 231 00:11:32,200 --> 00:11:33,719 Speaker 1: I think for every teams. I think we saw it 232 00:11:33,760 --> 00:11:36,440 Speaker 1: in college football the games that we watched last week, 233 00:11:36,840 --> 00:11:39,200 Speaker 1: there was some poor tackling, big plays, And that's the 234 00:11:39,240 --> 00:11:41,120 Speaker 1: problem you run into when you deal with a guy 235 00:11:41,679 --> 00:11:43,800 Speaker 1: like Barkley minds me very much of a guy like 236 00:11:43,880 --> 00:11:46,880 Speaker 1: Barry Sanders. And you guys all know what Barry Sanders was. 237 00:11:47,320 --> 00:11:50,920 Speaker 1: Garrett described him perfect one yard, two yards, four yards, 238 00:11:50,920 --> 00:11:53,640 Speaker 1: five yards, one yard, two yards, eighty seven yards. That's 239 00:11:53,760 --> 00:11:56,520 Speaker 1: that's what you get when you play against these elite 240 00:11:56,520 --> 00:11:59,360 Speaker 1: backs that all of a sudden, you're they're banging their head, 241 00:11:59,400 --> 00:12:00,960 Speaker 1: banging their head, banging their head, and then they all 242 00:12:00,960 --> 00:12:03,920 Speaker 1: of a sudden a mistackle, another mistackle, a third mistackle, 243 00:12:03,960 --> 00:12:05,640 Speaker 1: and now you're in a situation where it's an eighty 244 00:12:05,679 --> 00:12:08,680 Speaker 1: seven yard touchdown. He challenges the ability of your defense 245 00:12:08,720 --> 00:12:13,240 Speaker 1: to tackle at all three levels, all angles, all those problems. Yeah, 246 00:12:13,320 --> 00:12:15,040 Speaker 1: one thing, you know, and it was a small sample 247 00:12:15,080 --> 00:12:18,160 Speaker 1: size in preseason, but the Cowboys secondary did seem to 248 00:12:18,160 --> 00:12:21,280 Speaker 1: tackle well better. Yeah, yeah, that was what was impressive. 249 00:12:21,280 --> 00:12:23,320 Speaker 1: I know, doing the games with Brad on the radio 250 00:12:23,400 --> 00:12:25,599 Speaker 1: that every at the half, I would Brad say what 251 00:12:25,720 --> 00:12:28,600 Speaker 1: impressed you, and I'd say the way that the Woozier tackled, 252 00:12:28,640 --> 00:12:31,160 Speaker 1: the way that Lewis tackled, the way that Brown tackled, 253 00:12:31,480 --> 00:12:34,360 Speaker 1: and so. But you also got these linebackers too. That's 254 00:12:34,360 --> 00:12:36,720 Speaker 1: the strength of this football team, the ability for those 255 00:12:36,760 --> 00:12:39,920 Speaker 1: guys to rally to the football, get bodies there, bring 256 00:12:39,960 --> 00:12:41,760 Speaker 1: this guy to the ground. That's gonna be really really 257 00:12:41,760 --> 00:12:46,000 Speaker 1: important that they get. They play gap, integrity, defense, set 258 00:12:46,000 --> 00:12:48,800 Speaker 1: the edges, be physical, but get that guy on the ground. 259 00:12:49,400 --> 00:12:51,440 Speaker 1: All right, let's take our first break. When we come back, 260 00:12:51,480 --> 00:12:54,480 Speaker 1: we'll continue breaking down this matchup. We'll talk a little Zeke. 261 00:12:55,240 --> 00:12:58,240 Speaker 1: We'll maybe take your questions off a periscope if you've 262 00:12:58,280 --> 00:13:03,520 Speaker 1: got a phone call as well. Taking calls today, Kayden, Okay, yeah, 263 00:13:03,559 --> 00:13:06,200 Speaker 1: give us a shout. Numbers on the screen, I believe 264 00:13:06,280 --> 00:13:11,360 Speaker 1: eight eight, eight, five, five two nine seven. There we go. 265 00:13:11,440 --> 00:13:13,559 Speaker 1: I remember from the Draft show. It's been so long 266 00:13:13,840 --> 00:13:15,480 Speaker 1: as we've done that. All right, Maybe we'll get some 267 00:13:15,480 --> 00:13:18,400 Speaker 1: of those next we come back on Talking Cowboys. Your 268 00:13:18,400 --> 00:13:24,160 Speaker 1: new apartment's big, such a great deal. It's okay, just okay. 269 00:13:24,280 --> 00:13:30,560 Speaker 1: What's not right about the subway? Well, I bet you 270 00:13:30,559 --> 00:13:35,520 Speaker 1: don't even notice it after that's my neighbor. Angus. A 271 00:13:35,640 --> 00:13:39,080 Speaker 1: deal that's just okay is not okay. 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Don't miss your chance 301 00:15:21,000 --> 00:15:23,480 Speaker 1: to see the Cowboys live at at and T Stadium 302 00:15:23,480 --> 00:15:26,000 Speaker 1: this Sunday, September eighth, as they take on the New 303 00:15:26,080 --> 00:15:28,440 Speaker 1: York Giants. To kick off the season. Get your tickets 304 00:15:28,440 --> 00:15:33,120 Speaker 1: now single game tickets at Dallas Cowboys dot com. Welcome 305 00:15:33,120 --> 00:15:39,200 Speaker 1: back inside the SWBC Mortgage Studio, Talking Cowboys rolls on 306 00:15:41,240 --> 00:15:43,920 Speaker 1: as we're talking Cowboys Giants, which you got? I had 307 00:15:43,960 --> 00:15:47,200 Speaker 1: a question since we were watching the Bears and Packers 308 00:15:47,200 --> 00:15:51,560 Speaker 1: getting ready for tonight's game. So I'm not sure what 309 00:15:51,720 --> 00:15:57,640 Speaker 1: I'm missing. But the Packers were less than enthusiastic last year. 310 00:15:58,480 --> 00:16:01,480 Speaker 1: They weren't very good, So why is everybody looking for 311 00:16:01,520 --> 00:16:03,480 Speaker 1: them to be the What have they done to make 312 00:16:03,520 --> 00:16:08,760 Speaker 1: this the turnaround team? Because Aaron Rodgers, Yeah, that to 313 00:16:08,840 --> 00:16:12,400 Speaker 1: me that he's simple. He's to me, he's the one 314 00:16:12,520 --> 00:16:16,640 Speaker 1: guy that if I was picking first, I think i'd 315 00:16:16,640 --> 00:16:19,280 Speaker 1: pick him first. I know it sounds crazy because you 316 00:16:19,320 --> 00:16:22,520 Speaker 1: talk about Brady and all that, and but I think 317 00:16:22,560 --> 00:16:26,240 Speaker 1: that because I've seen him for so many years play 318 00:16:26,280 --> 00:16:29,160 Speaker 1: with He's had really good talented times, he's had really 319 00:16:29,160 --> 00:16:32,200 Speaker 1: bad talented times, but they're always a threat because of him. 320 00:16:32,280 --> 00:16:34,760 Speaker 1: But wasn't he there last year? Or am I missing it? 321 00:16:34,920 --> 00:16:36,680 Speaker 1: Wasn't it two years ago? He was hurt, He was 322 00:16:36,720 --> 00:16:39,000 Speaker 1: hurt a couple of years ago. But yeah, I just 323 00:16:39,040 --> 00:16:41,520 Speaker 1: I don't think They've put a lot enough around him 324 00:16:41,600 --> 00:16:45,240 Speaker 1: the last couple of years. It last year put the 325 00:16:45,280 --> 00:16:47,160 Speaker 1: team on his bell. He go, why is it back 326 00:16:47,240 --> 00:16:49,920 Speaker 1: to chip on his shoulder? Mike, It's just but then 327 00:16:49,960 --> 00:16:51,640 Speaker 1: he hurt his knee in the in the Bears game 328 00:16:51,720 --> 00:16:54,320 Speaker 1: last year at this time, and then he came back 329 00:16:54,360 --> 00:16:55,840 Speaker 1: and everybody, I mean I remember we were in a 330 00:16:55,840 --> 00:16:57,120 Speaker 1: game or we were doing a game, and it's like, 331 00:16:57,160 --> 00:16:59,080 Speaker 1: oh my gosh, Rogers is laying on the field, you know, 332 00:16:59,120 --> 00:17:01,280 Speaker 1: one of those things. I just I just kind of 333 00:17:01,320 --> 00:17:03,960 Speaker 1: feel like, though, did he's the one guy in this 334 00:17:04,040 --> 00:17:07,560 Speaker 1: league that you would pick to say, Okay, he could 335 00:17:07,640 --> 00:17:09,920 Speaker 1: beat you with his guys, and then he could take 336 00:17:10,040 --> 00:17:12,600 Speaker 1: your guys and beat you with your guys. You know 337 00:17:12,640 --> 00:17:14,159 Speaker 1: that kind of thing. It's the old saying that they 338 00:17:14,240 --> 00:17:17,440 Speaker 1: used to talk about coaches and stuff. But he's just 339 00:17:17,640 --> 00:17:20,480 Speaker 1: that he's got that unique ability. And I understand what 340 00:17:20,560 --> 00:17:22,960 Speaker 1: you're saying, Mickey. And again, I mean, I didn't know 341 00:17:23,040 --> 00:17:25,800 Speaker 1: that they added somebody that like turned this whole thing 342 00:17:25,840 --> 00:17:28,240 Speaker 1: around from last year. I was, no, they've actually lost 343 00:17:28,280 --> 00:17:30,880 Speaker 1: some guys year enough. I miss Clay Matthews has moved 344 00:17:30,880 --> 00:17:33,000 Speaker 1: on to the Rams. I mean, they've lost some guys. 345 00:17:33,320 --> 00:17:37,600 Speaker 1: So yeah, I think changing coaches, changing coaches, you know, 346 00:17:37,760 --> 00:17:40,880 Speaker 1: some new ideas. It comes down to number twelve. Right, 347 00:17:41,119 --> 00:17:44,240 Speaker 1: I've said this on the show before. Tiger Woods is 348 00:17:44,240 --> 00:17:46,280 Speaker 1: not going to end up probably with the same the 349 00:17:46,359 --> 00:17:49,120 Speaker 1: major title. Right, But if you just knew the eye test, 350 00:17:49,240 --> 00:17:51,359 Speaker 1: he's the best you've ever seen. That's how I feel 351 00:17:51,359 --> 00:17:54,640 Speaker 1: about Rogers, honestly, like I think he's he doesn't have weaknesses. 352 00:17:54,680 --> 00:17:57,160 Speaker 1: The only his problem has been he's gotten hurt. That's 353 00:17:57,200 --> 00:17:59,480 Speaker 1: that's really the only drawback for him. All right, Well, 354 00:17:59,680 --> 00:18:01,840 Speaker 1: maybe I forgot last year because I knew he was 355 00:18:01,880 --> 00:18:04,639 Speaker 1: hurt in twenty seventeen when they had to play the 356 00:18:04,320 --> 00:18:07,040 Speaker 1: test quarterback. Yeah, but I saw all these people picking 357 00:18:07,040 --> 00:18:08,960 Speaker 1: them to go to Chicago and win, and I'm going, 358 00:18:08,960 --> 00:18:11,360 Speaker 1: how come. Yeah, the Beardown Bears, you got to watch them. 359 00:18:11,359 --> 00:18:14,240 Speaker 1: The bear Down Bears are got man. That defense is 360 00:18:14,680 --> 00:18:17,199 Speaker 1: for real. We've seen games. I mean the Rams went 361 00:18:17,280 --> 00:18:19,679 Speaker 1: there late in the year and just got destroyed. Not 362 00:18:19,760 --> 00:18:22,199 Speaker 1: on the scoreboard, but man, I remember watching that tape. 363 00:18:22,800 --> 00:18:24,880 Speaker 1: I'm thinking, Okay, this is how you beat the Rams. 364 00:18:25,000 --> 00:18:28,040 Speaker 1: And then it was cold and get after them. And 365 00:18:28,680 --> 00:18:31,720 Speaker 1: but that's that's like old school Bears, old school Bears, 366 00:18:31,880 --> 00:18:33,520 Speaker 1: but they kind of reminded me of the Cowboys a 367 00:18:33,560 --> 00:18:36,600 Speaker 1: little bit. They got a nasty looking defense, and they 368 00:18:36,640 --> 00:18:40,399 Speaker 1: got a young quarterback that you think will continue to ascend. Ye, 369 00:18:40,680 --> 00:18:42,280 Speaker 1: So they're a team to watch in the NFCA. This 370 00:18:42,280 --> 00:18:44,439 Speaker 1: should be fun. Get this thing rolling, you know what, 371 00:18:44,480 --> 00:18:46,720 Speaker 1: you'll know a lot about this Dallas sat, this Dallas 372 00:18:46,760 --> 00:18:49,240 Speaker 1: Cowboy team as we go along. By the by the 373 00:18:49,359 --> 00:18:51,560 Speaker 1: end of it, it's you know, either gonna be talking 374 00:18:51,560 --> 00:18:53,560 Speaker 1: about it bends a team. It's can make a great 375 00:18:53,640 --> 00:18:56,159 Speaker 1: run because they're gonna play all the best teams in 376 00:18:56,200 --> 00:18:59,359 Speaker 1: the NFC. You know you're gonna play the Saints, the Packers, 377 00:18:59,400 --> 00:19:02,120 Speaker 1: the Bears, You're gonna play the Rams. You know you're 378 00:19:02,119 --> 00:19:04,280 Speaker 1: gonna play them all. And so you're gonna have a 379 00:19:04,280 --> 00:19:05,639 Speaker 1: good test. And then you're gonna have to go to 380 00:19:05,680 --> 00:19:08,560 Speaker 1: Foxborough to play a game too. And now we've passed 381 00:19:08,600 --> 00:19:10,959 Speaker 1: that test. So by the end of this campaign, you 382 00:19:10,960 --> 00:19:13,199 Speaker 1: will know exactly what this football team is if it 383 00:19:13,240 --> 00:19:15,240 Speaker 1: does have a chance to do well in the playoffs, 384 00:19:15,640 --> 00:19:16,960 Speaker 1: or if it's going to be a team that could 385 00:19:17,000 --> 00:19:19,240 Speaker 1: be in the playoffs but probably won't have the success 386 00:19:19,280 --> 00:19:21,840 Speaker 1: because they couldn't get over the hump of beaten some 387 00:19:21,880 --> 00:19:23,400 Speaker 1: of those teams that they needed to be. I think 388 00:19:23,400 --> 00:19:26,280 Speaker 1: I saw where the schedule here is ranked like midpack, 389 00:19:26,480 --> 00:19:29,639 Speaker 1: like fourteenth or fifteenth. I think that's right. Seems harder 390 00:19:29,640 --> 00:19:32,439 Speaker 1: than that on paper. Oh, I don't want to have 391 00:19:32,480 --> 00:19:34,640 Speaker 1: to go play the Bears in December. I don't want 392 00:19:34,640 --> 00:19:36,720 Speaker 1: to have to play bring the Rams here. You never 393 00:19:36,760 --> 00:19:39,400 Speaker 1: know what's going to happen injury wise, you really don't. 394 00:19:39,480 --> 00:19:41,000 Speaker 1: You don't know what the shape of these teams are 395 00:19:41,000 --> 00:19:43,800 Speaker 1: gonna be. But if you just say it on paper, Yeah, 396 00:19:43,880 --> 00:19:46,520 Speaker 1: if I'm the Giants, I would much rather play Detroit 397 00:19:46,600 --> 00:19:49,880 Speaker 1: in Arizona than I would have to play the Saints 398 00:19:49,880 --> 00:19:52,399 Speaker 1: and the Rams. You know, I just that's just me 399 00:19:52,520 --> 00:19:54,320 Speaker 1: right now. Those are two games. I kind of feel 400 00:19:54,359 --> 00:19:57,000 Speaker 1: like that, if you had the opportunity, you would say, Okay, 401 00:19:57,119 --> 00:20:01,200 Speaker 1: I'll switch out those games. They get to play Detroit, Yeah, 402 00:20:01,240 --> 00:20:03,440 Speaker 1: well they get to play Detroit because of the division 403 00:20:03,480 --> 00:20:06,760 Speaker 1: division that they Yeah, because they faced everybody else in 404 00:20:06,800 --> 00:20:10,400 Speaker 1: the division has to play them. Yeah, gotta play Chicago. 405 00:20:10,440 --> 00:20:13,359 Speaker 1: Got to play Minnesota, right, Yeah. Minnesota is another one 406 00:20:13,359 --> 00:20:15,439 Speaker 1: I didn't even think about, you know, so you go 407 00:20:15,480 --> 00:20:17,439 Speaker 1: through down, through the schedule. Health is going to be 408 00:20:17,440 --> 00:20:19,359 Speaker 1: a big part of it. The growth of this defense. 409 00:20:19,400 --> 00:20:21,680 Speaker 1: I think this defense is ready to do some great things. 410 00:20:21,920 --> 00:20:24,159 Speaker 1: I really do. I feel like that that. You know, 411 00:20:24,200 --> 00:20:27,159 Speaker 1: we saw saw the ability to create turnovers. You know, 412 00:20:27,240 --> 00:20:29,760 Speaker 1: even I can practice they were creating turnovers. And then 413 00:20:29,800 --> 00:20:31,960 Speaker 1: they getting those preseason games and yeah, they were going 414 00:20:32,000 --> 00:20:34,280 Speaker 1: after the ball. It was kind of gravitating towards guys. 415 00:20:34,520 --> 00:20:36,920 Speaker 1: They were getting tipped passes, they were knocking balls down 416 00:20:36,960 --> 00:20:39,600 Speaker 1: on the outside. You know, a lot of good positive 417 00:20:39,640 --> 00:20:41,760 Speaker 1: things about this defense. You know, it could be one 418 00:20:41,800 --> 00:20:44,920 Speaker 1: of those defenses that does really well as a scoring defense. 419 00:20:44,960 --> 00:20:46,440 Speaker 1: Then you get your offense role and you know, with 420 00:20:46,560 --> 00:20:49,040 Speaker 1: Kellen Moore, that's really kind of the great unknown right now. 421 00:20:49,280 --> 00:20:51,960 Speaker 1: But I think Kellen Moore's understanding that he has to 422 00:20:52,400 --> 00:20:54,840 Speaker 1: find ways to get the ball into the playmaker's hands 423 00:20:54,840 --> 00:20:56,959 Speaker 1: that he has and I think he will do that. 424 00:20:58,240 --> 00:21:02,120 Speaker 1: All right. Uh, let's continue talking this matchup a little 425 00:21:02,119 --> 00:21:05,640 Speaker 1: bit Cowboys Giants. It feels like we've been talking about 426 00:21:05,680 --> 00:21:08,320 Speaker 1: Eli for twenty years and it's getting on to that. 427 00:21:08,400 --> 00:21:13,000 Speaker 1: It's getting close to it for him. You know, you 428 00:21:13,040 --> 00:21:15,560 Speaker 1: can say he's declined the last few years. But it's true. 429 00:21:15,680 --> 00:21:19,040 Speaker 1: But it's also been the protection up front. They made 430 00:21:19,040 --> 00:21:21,440 Speaker 1: a cover very poor made. Yeah, made a couple moves 431 00:21:21,440 --> 00:21:23,960 Speaker 1: in the off season to try to fortify that. Do 432 00:21:24,000 --> 00:21:26,040 Speaker 1: you think that's the case or do you think this 433 00:21:26,080 --> 00:21:28,679 Speaker 1: is a matchup the Cowboys can continue to take advantage of. Well, 434 00:21:28,720 --> 00:21:30,400 Speaker 1: I think that there's things that they can't. I think 435 00:21:30,440 --> 00:21:32,280 Speaker 1: this is one of those offensive lines when you watch 436 00:21:32,320 --> 00:21:34,200 Speaker 1: them play, it's kind of a big and box the 437 00:21:34,280 --> 00:21:37,120 Speaker 1: offensive line, with the exception really of Nate Solder, who's 438 00:21:37,160 --> 00:21:39,600 Speaker 1: more of an athlete, more of a linear built and 439 00:21:39,640 --> 00:21:41,520 Speaker 1: I mean linear, I mean up and down kind of guy, 440 00:21:41,600 --> 00:21:45,520 Speaker 1: Finnish guy. But they've got some power inside with Hernandez 441 00:21:45,560 --> 00:21:49,200 Speaker 1: and Zeitler, you know and those guys. Rumors that's right tackle. 442 00:21:49,320 --> 00:21:51,520 Speaker 1: That will be a good matchup to see with Lawrence 443 00:21:51,760 --> 00:21:55,720 Speaker 1: and how you know it. Can Lawrence take advantage him? 444 00:21:55,720 --> 00:21:57,840 Speaker 1: This is a Rumors is a big guy. He was 445 00:21:57,880 --> 00:22:01,160 Speaker 1: with he was with the Dave him in Carolina. He's 446 00:22:01,160 --> 00:22:03,360 Speaker 1: been a star. He's of sixteen game starter the last 447 00:22:03,400 --> 00:22:06,639 Speaker 1: couple of years Carolina Minnesota. He's a guy that if 448 00:22:06,640 --> 00:22:08,920 Speaker 1: you rush him down the middle, he's going to have success. 449 00:22:08,960 --> 00:22:11,000 Speaker 1: You need to try and work the edges on him. 450 00:22:11,040 --> 00:22:13,240 Speaker 1: That's the thing that we're gonna see with Lawrence. Lawrence 451 00:22:13,320 --> 00:22:14,480 Speaker 1: is one of the reasons why he's one of the 452 00:22:14,560 --> 00:22:17,200 Speaker 1: highest paid defensive ends is because he's got a lot 453 00:22:17,200 --> 00:22:19,320 Speaker 1: of tools in the tool belt. I think he's he's 454 00:22:19,320 --> 00:22:22,720 Speaker 1: gonna try and take advantage of rumors a little bit, 455 00:22:23,040 --> 00:22:26,240 Speaker 1: work him in, work him out, swims, rips, dips, all 456 00:22:26,240 --> 00:22:28,560 Speaker 1: those things, try and make them have to move. I 457 00:22:28,600 --> 00:22:31,520 Speaker 1: think Eli Manning understands what's happening in front of him too. 458 00:22:31,560 --> 00:22:33,280 Speaker 1: I think he's saying, Okay, well, I've got to get 459 00:22:33,359 --> 00:22:35,880 Speaker 1: rid of the ball a little quicker. Can the secondary 460 00:22:35,960 --> 00:22:39,080 Speaker 1: hold up? You know, they don't have that, they don't 461 00:22:39,119 --> 00:22:41,480 Speaker 1: have that Odell Beckham anymore. That's a that's a problem 462 00:22:41,520 --> 00:22:43,080 Speaker 1: for them because Manning was just going to throw the 463 00:22:43,080 --> 00:22:44,560 Speaker 1: ball to Beckham. Where he's gonna throw the ball to 464 00:22:44,560 --> 00:22:46,600 Speaker 1: Evan Ingram, you know, get out. If you could get 465 00:22:46,680 --> 00:22:48,080 Speaker 1: him to hold the ball a little bit, that's where 466 00:22:48,080 --> 00:22:50,399 Speaker 1: the rush kind of creates problems for him. Push the 467 00:22:50,400 --> 00:22:52,440 Speaker 1: middle of the pocket, like we talk about, squeeze the 468 00:22:52,560 --> 00:22:55,120 Speaker 1: edges and see if you can affect him that way. 469 00:22:55,160 --> 00:22:57,760 Speaker 1: Eye level, bring that eye level for Eli Manning down, 470 00:22:58,080 --> 00:23:00,359 Speaker 1: hit him in the pocket, ball tends to come loose 471 00:23:00,359 --> 00:23:02,960 Speaker 1: because he'll turn that ball over for you. Who's the 472 00:23:03,000 --> 00:23:07,960 Speaker 1: fastest past rushers? The Cowboys have fastest, like quickest first steps. 473 00:23:08,240 --> 00:23:12,160 Speaker 1: Guy that can just run right by you. I would 474 00:23:12,160 --> 00:23:14,960 Speaker 1: say the guy that has the most explosive move to 475 00:23:15,200 --> 00:23:19,080 Speaker 1: start would be would be Lawrence. And then and then 476 00:23:19,119 --> 00:23:22,399 Speaker 1: I think then Armstrong got a first step. Man with 477 00:23:22,840 --> 00:23:26,840 Speaker 1: Armstrong without I mean without Robert Quinn being here, right yeah, right, yeah, 478 00:23:26,840 --> 00:23:28,480 Speaker 1: so the first you get to put him over on 479 00:23:28,520 --> 00:23:31,840 Speaker 1: the right side. Yeah, because soldier isn't that good? No, 480 00:23:32,000 --> 00:23:33,520 Speaker 1: here's here. I heard you on the fan this morning. 481 00:23:33,520 --> 00:23:37,919 Speaker 1: You're not buying the retool general. He's that Why did they? 482 00:23:38,000 --> 00:23:39,800 Speaker 1: Why did New England get rid of him? He was? 483 00:23:39,880 --> 00:23:42,440 Speaker 1: He was he was the weak link New England. It's 484 00:23:42,440 --> 00:23:46,520 Speaker 1: funny New England would get rid of guys. But he 485 00:23:46,640 --> 00:23:49,520 Speaker 1: wasn't that good there? Yeah, did you think he was good? 486 00:23:49,640 --> 00:23:51,400 Speaker 1: I think that to me, he was a lot better 487 00:23:51,440 --> 00:23:53,680 Speaker 1: than I thought he'd coming out of Colorado. I thought 488 00:23:53,680 --> 00:23:56,399 Speaker 1: he was you know him? And then this David Baktari 489 00:23:56,480 --> 00:23:58,440 Speaker 1: were two guys at of Colorado that kind of looked 490 00:23:58,440 --> 00:24:01,960 Speaker 1: the same to me. They're both really light, weak players 491 00:24:02,040 --> 00:24:03,840 Speaker 1: and then all of a sudden, David Baktiari has had 492 00:24:03,840 --> 00:24:06,560 Speaker 1: a nice career with the Packers. But you're right, Micky, 493 00:24:06,720 --> 00:24:09,520 Speaker 1: Nate Solder does have problems. He does have problems with power. 494 00:24:09,720 --> 00:24:11,760 Speaker 1: That's a big thing though, and that's I think that's 495 00:24:11,760 --> 00:24:13,840 Speaker 1: a good thing. When you look at rushing with Crawford 496 00:24:13,840 --> 00:24:15,800 Speaker 1: to that side, Crawford tends to play with a little 497 00:24:15,800 --> 00:24:19,000 Speaker 1: bit more power, a little bit more drive. Crawford will 498 00:24:19,040 --> 00:24:21,600 Speaker 1: win the edge and then push the tackle back into 499 00:24:21,600 --> 00:24:24,280 Speaker 1: the pocket. We saw him do that last year in 500 00:24:24,320 --> 00:24:28,119 Speaker 1: the Philadelphia game. Nice stripped sack, you know with Carson Wentz. 501 00:24:28,160 --> 00:24:30,360 Speaker 1: Because if he will, he will do everything he can 502 00:24:30,840 --> 00:24:33,120 Speaker 1: to win on the edge. If Nate Solder can't hold 503 00:24:33,200 --> 00:24:36,280 Speaker 1: up on that edge, will Crawford will take advantage that him. 504 00:24:36,560 --> 00:24:39,960 Speaker 1: Armstrong guys like that, we'll farewell over that. How to 505 00:24:39,960 --> 00:24:42,640 Speaker 1: put a shark guy, there's duck under the six nine guy. 506 00:24:43,320 --> 00:24:46,639 Speaker 1: That's an idea. Carrie Hyder, there you go. I wouldn't 507 00:24:46,680 --> 00:24:48,439 Speaker 1: call him short. You know what. Kerry Hyder made this 508 00:24:48,480 --> 00:24:51,320 Speaker 1: football team because his ability to rush the passer and 509 00:24:51,680 --> 00:24:54,040 Speaker 1: he came, he came. You talk about some first step quickness. 510 00:24:54,040 --> 00:24:57,439 Speaker 1: Now carry hyder playing as that as playing as an undertackle. 511 00:24:57,520 --> 00:24:59,000 Speaker 1: And this thing would not be a bad thing for 512 00:24:59,040 --> 00:25:01,360 Speaker 1: me either, because he can find a way to win. 513 00:25:01,480 --> 00:25:04,320 Speaker 1: Canny Kenny win, you know against will Her Nannies. Will 514 00:25:04,359 --> 00:25:06,720 Speaker 1: Her Nannies is a big, boxy guy that tends to 515 00:25:06,720 --> 00:25:09,400 Speaker 1: get a little top heavy. But so try and win 516 00:25:09,520 --> 00:25:12,040 Speaker 1: right there off the snap, and you know, and affect 517 00:25:12,119 --> 00:25:13,919 Speaker 1: the way that Manny looks at the front of that 518 00:25:13,960 --> 00:25:16,640 Speaker 1: pocket six two against six nine, he might be able 519 00:25:16,640 --> 00:25:18,840 Speaker 1: to sneak right underneath him. That is a big difference. 520 00:25:18,840 --> 00:25:22,520 Speaker 1: You're right about that? Uh, the guy that chugs beer 521 00:25:22,600 --> 00:25:25,640 Speaker 1: like no other No, yes, yeah, the Milwaukee Bucks game. 522 00:25:25,680 --> 00:25:28,080 Speaker 1: Oh no, he's he's clearly there's there's some line that 523 00:25:28,119 --> 00:25:30,760 Speaker 1: can can slam some bi packer. What are you talking about? 524 00:25:30,840 --> 00:25:33,639 Speaker 1: Exactly right, that's right, All right. Let's let's grab a 525 00:25:33,640 --> 00:25:36,119 Speaker 1: phone call before we go to break. Our good friend 526 00:25:36,160 --> 00:25:43,560 Speaker 1: Nebby is on the line. What's up? Neb on on talking? 527 00:25:45,040 --> 00:25:49,200 Speaker 1: If you all think Amari Cooper is gonna be h 528 00:25:49,800 --> 00:25:53,800 Speaker 1: on a pitch count or at or at all limited 529 00:25:54,240 --> 00:26:00,640 Speaker 1: considering the fact that he's coming off a heel uh injury. 530 00:26:02,200 --> 00:26:06,080 Speaker 1: I take care, thankful being patient with me, and have 531 00:26:06,200 --> 00:26:09,680 Speaker 1: a great week by thanks hard from you now, Thanks Bud. 532 00:26:09,840 --> 00:26:12,359 Speaker 1: Good question. Yeah, you know what I think that the 533 00:26:12,480 --> 00:26:15,560 Speaker 1: rotation will be. I think they'll want to get Cooper 534 00:26:15,560 --> 00:26:17,479 Speaker 1: out there as much as they can, you know, and 535 00:26:17,560 --> 00:26:20,159 Speaker 1: I think they'll be very mindful of the down and 536 00:26:20,240 --> 00:26:22,760 Speaker 1: distant situations and things like that. If they get on 537 00:26:22,800 --> 00:26:24,960 Speaker 1: a role where they're where they're hitting pass play after 538 00:26:25,000 --> 00:26:27,119 Speaker 1: pass play, running the ball, and they're moving the chains 539 00:26:27,200 --> 00:26:29,960 Speaker 1: being effective, they could do a little bit more with him. 540 00:26:29,960 --> 00:26:32,800 Speaker 1: But I'm gonna play him as much as I can 541 00:26:32,880 --> 00:26:35,040 Speaker 1: because I think he could take advantage of both these 542 00:26:35,080 --> 00:26:37,919 Speaker 1: corners with his route running. I mean, it talked to 543 00:26:37,960 --> 00:26:41,320 Speaker 1: some people that were watching practice yesterday that was like, 544 00:26:41,440 --> 00:26:45,120 Speaker 1: how was his ability to plant and explode? And these 545 00:26:45,119 --> 00:26:47,360 Speaker 1: guys were like, he did not look like he had 546 00:26:47,400 --> 00:26:49,280 Speaker 1: sat out at all, and he's been out of like 547 00:26:49,320 --> 00:26:51,400 Speaker 1: a month, and he's been out a month. You're absolutely 548 00:26:51,480 --> 00:26:53,320 Speaker 1: right about that. So the only thing I think slowing 549 00:26:53,400 --> 00:26:57,359 Speaker 1: him down will be conditioning, because you know, these receivers 550 00:26:57,440 --> 00:26:59,760 Speaker 1: run whether they get the ball or not, they're running 551 00:26:59,840 --> 00:27:02,439 Speaker 1: right out. So every time he's running and even if 552 00:27:02,440 --> 00:27:05,280 Speaker 1: he doesn't get the ball, that's him running. So I 553 00:27:05,320 --> 00:27:07,600 Speaker 1: think conditioning would be the only thing that holds him 554 00:27:07,640 --> 00:27:10,160 Speaker 1: back right now. And to your point, you've been saying, look, 555 00:27:10,200 --> 00:27:13,800 Speaker 1: it's not plantar fasciitis, and he confirmed that, I think 556 00:27:13,840 --> 00:27:15,119 Speaker 1: the other day in the locker room and he was 557 00:27:15,119 --> 00:27:17,960 Speaker 1: talking to us. Finally he said, this is not as 558 00:27:17,960 --> 00:27:20,400 Speaker 1: bad as something I've had in Oakland and he said 559 00:27:20,440 --> 00:27:24,119 Speaker 1: he played through the plantar fasciitis and played well. Yeah, 560 00:27:24,119 --> 00:27:26,480 Speaker 1: so yeah, I think he's good to go now. Again, 561 00:27:26,720 --> 00:27:29,240 Speaker 1: Brian's right, you know, what's the conditioning. You haven't been 562 00:27:29,240 --> 00:27:32,200 Speaker 1: doing this. You know, play in and play out and 563 00:27:32,359 --> 00:27:35,240 Speaker 1: during during training camp, right and they've got ways to 564 00:27:35,880 --> 00:27:38,720 Speaker 1: go to two wide and you know, bring in Tavon Austin, 565 00:27:38,840 --> 00:27:41,760 Speaker 1: bring in Devon Smith and you know, go to tight 566 00:27:41,880 --> 00:27:45,000 Speaker 1: ends sometime and a fullback and kind of change it up. 567 00:27:45,040 --> 00:27:47,440 Speaker 1: But I think he's ready to go. I do too. 568 00:27:47,600 --> 00:27:50,119 Speaker 1: I think, you know, the pitch count thing, like Nebbie 569 00:27:50,240 --> 00:27:52,640 Speaker 1: was asking about. I think you have to be mindful 570 00:27:52,680 --> 00:27:55,520 Speaker 1: of him. I think the other ones are more like, okay, 571 00:27:55,600 --> 00:27:57,560 Speaker 1: this is I think Zeke is the most important one 572 00:27:57,560 --> 00:27:59,440 Speaker 1: here because just be a long campaign for him. You 573 00:27:59,480 --> 00:28:01,719 Speaker 1: have to be mind full of his situation. Jason. By 574 00:28:01,760 --> 00:28:03,760 Speaker 1: the way, Garrett said, he thought he looked good in 575 00:28:03,760 --> 00:28:05,840 Speaker 1: practiced yesterday. But you know, it's one of those things. 576 00:28:05,880 --> 00:28:07,359 Speaker 1: I guess you got to continue to see how he 577 00:28:07,440 --> 00:28:09,800 Speaker 1: responds to the week. Well that and you also got 578 00:28:09,800 --> 00:28:12,840 Speaker 1: to remember you can't wear him out in three days 579 00:28:12,880 --> 00:28:15,280 Speaker 1: and then expecting to play on Sunday. I heard somebody's 580 00:28:15,600 --> 00:28:19,119 Speaker 1: he got to do extra work. Well, no, because you 581 00:28:19,160 --> 00:28:21,520 Speaker 1: want to make sure whatever he's got in his legs, 582 00:28:21,560 --> 00:28:24,919 Speaker 1: he expends it on Sunday, not on Friday or not 583 00:28:25,000 --> 00:28:28,640 Speaker 1: on Thursday. So you got to trust that he actually 584 00:28:28,720 --> 00:28:32,639 Speaker 1: did his conditioning work. And if his conditioning work and 585 00:28:32,680 --> 00:28:35,560 Speaker 1: his legs are good, then the only thing is going 586 00:28:35,600 --> 00:28:37,600 Speaker 1: to hold him back is I saw on my phone 587 00:28:37,640 --> 00:28:42,640 Speaker 1: today we had a four day air quality alert. Don't 588 00:28:42,680 --> 00:28:44,520 Speaker 1: open that roof by the way, Yeah, I was trying 589 00:28:44,520 --> 00:28:46,160 Speaker 1: to get it open the roof. Oh, I wanted to 590 00:28:46,160 --> 00:28:49,880 Speaker 1: affect the giants this morning. The air quality it's not 591 00:28:49,920 --> 00:28:52,360 Speaker 1: supposed to be good, So watch how much you're breathing 592 00:28:52,360 --> 00:28:54,960 Speaker 1: out there. I brought up the point I go, if 593 00:28:55,000 --> 00:28:57,080 Speaker 1: I'm Jerry, I open this roof, and I'm thinking, yeah, 594 00:28:57,160 --> 00:28:58,760 Speaker 1: you're got to wear out your own teeth and he 595 00:28:58,800 --> 00:29:01,560 Speaker 1: goes and shun goes. Why would you do that? I'm like, 596 00:29:01,600 --> 00:29:03,120 Speaker 1: I'm trying to wear the Giants out. And then I 597 00:29:03,120 --> 00:29:04,800 Speaker 1: was thinking about maybe I'm gonna wear my own team 598 00:29:04,800 --> 00:29:06,680 Speaker 1: out too doing that. But yeah, I think you know 599 00:29:06,760 --> 00:29:09,800 Speaker 1: that we're this. This humidity gets in that building, whether 600 00:29:09,840 --> 00:29:12,360 Speaker 1: it's eric condition or not. And I think I think 601 00:29:12,360 --> 00:29:15,280 Speaker 1: the Cowboys can affect the way that the Giants play 602 00:29:15,360 --> 00:29:17,840 Speaker 1: by how they play with their pace, you know, if 603 00:29:17,880 --> 00:29:20,120 Speaker 1: they get if they if we're seeing them stay ahead 604 00:29:20,120 --> 00:29:22,200 Speaker 1: of the chains, if they're getting them in a lot 605 00:29:22,200 --> 00:29:25,720 Speaker 1: of third down situations on defense. You know, on paper 606 00:29:25,960 --> 00:29:28,400 Speaker 1: they say this. I'm not saying take the Giants lightly, 607 00:29:28,440 --> 00:29:30,600 Speaker 1: because I'm surely not, because I think they got some 608 00:29:30,640 --> 00:29:33,480 Speaker 1: talented players. But if you look player for player, the 609 00:29:33,520 --> 00:29:36,000 Speaker 1: Cowboys should win this football game. They should. They have 610 00:29:36,080 --> 00:29:37,960 Speaker 1: enough players, dude. Now there's gonna be some matchups down 611 00:29:38,000 --> 00:29:40,560 Speaker 1: the road where that's gonna be a lot closer, you know, 612 00:29:40,880 --> 00:29:43,040 Speaker 1: and then what we think, But I think this is 613 00:29:43,080 --> 00:29:45,400 Speaker 1: one of those games there, you know, play their game, 614 00:29:45,520 --> 00:29:48,760 Speaker 1: play mistake free. It's all the cliches you want to say, 615 00:29:48,840 --> 00:29:50,760 Speaker 1: but for an opening game, those are the things you 616 00:29:50,840 --> 00:29:54,400 Speaker 1: have to deal with the penalties, the turnovers, poor tackling. 617 00:29:54,520 --> 00:29:56,920 Speaker 1: Can't have those things in that first game. Yeah, let 618 00:29:56,960 --> 00:29:59,280 Speaker 1: me tell you about turnovers in the first game of 619 00:29:59,320 --> 00:30:01,880 Speaker 1: the season. 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Oh right, yeah, what a liner. 675 00:33:16,480 --> 00:33:18,880 Speaker 1: As people walk by and go, Mickey is losing his 676 00:33:18,960 --> 00:33:22,560 Speaker 1: mind talking about pits pits. They come up with some 677 00:33:22,560 --> 00:33:25,640 Speaker 1: pretty good saying they do, Jack Black, I'm still wait 678 00:33:25,680 --> 00:33:27,760 Speaker 1: for that box by the way, Jack Black, Okay, let 679 00:33:27,760 --> 00:33:29,200 Speaker 1: me see what I can do help to help us 680 00:33:29,200 --> 00:33:31,200 Speaker 1: out with this. I got a good products. I came 681 00:33:31,200 --> 00:33:34,400 Speaker 1: back from camp get my three and one wash. Yes, 682 00:33:34,520 --> 00:33:36,520 Speaker 1: I needed it. You didn't bring it with you. I'd 683 00:33:36,600 --> 00:33:38,840 Speaker 1: ran out at camp. Oh no, it was a pleasant 684 00:33:38,920 --> 00:33:41,080 Speaker 1: surprise to get home to. Should never run out of 685 00:33:41,160 --> 00:33:45,560 Speaker 1: Jack Black. Absolutely all right, welcome back to talking about 686 00:33:45,560 --> 00:33:47,600 Speaker 1: they arguing on periscope. I didn't bring my phone today. 687 00:33:47,640 --> 00:33:49,320 Speaker 1: Guys hit us up some questions before we get out 688 00:33:49,360 --> 00:33:51,280 Speaker 1: of here. We've got like a lot of guys love 689 00:33:51,320 --> 00:33:54,240 Speaker 1: folks hate me on periscope by the way. Really, Oh yeah, 690 00:33:54,240 --> 00:33:57,280 Speaker 1: it's funny. It's funny because he answers your questions and 691 00:33:57,280 --> 00:33:59,840 Speaker 1: that's not the answer they're looking for. Stick it right. 692 00:34:00,000 --> 00:34:03,280 Speaker 1: If you're rear there, we go. It is woo it 693 00:34:03,360 --> 00:34:06,520 Speaker 1: is what it is? Yeah, all right, Well we'll see 694 00:34:06,560 --> 00:34:08,879 Speaker 1: if they have fires up. Yeah, we got about eight 695 00:34:08,920 --> 00:34:10,160 Speaker 1: ten minutes left in the show. If you want to 696 00:34:10,160 --> 00:34:12,160 Speaker 1: give us a call at eight eight five five two 697 00:34:12,239 --> 00:34:15,480 Speaker 1: two ninety seven is the number, or if you want 698 00:34:15,480 --> 00:34:18,799 Speaker 1: to join us at one o'clock on Saturday, Brian and 699 00:34:18,800 --> 00:34:21,600 Speaker 1: I will be answering your question. Star Sports Tours. Yeah, 700 00:34:21,719 --> 00:34:24,359 Speaker 1: one fifteen at the Omni at the Omni. That's right, 701 00:34:24,719 --> 00:34:26,640 Speaker 1: me and Mickey. It's quite a show. It ought to be. 702 00:34:26,760 --> 00:34:29,080 Speaker 1: It ought to be a more friendly crowded and what 703 00:34:29,160 --> 00:34:32,200 Speaker 1: it was about halfway through the season last year before 704 00:34:32,200 --> 00:34:34,040 Speaker 1: they made that Mary Cooper trade, that was a rough, 705 00:34:34,160 --> 00:34:36,960 Speaker 1: rough crowd. But it's good to see everybody out. Yes, absolutely, 706 00:34:37,000 --> 00:34:39,239 Speaker 1: come on out. Rob what you could talk to Mickey? Yeah, 707 00:34:39,320 --> 00:34:41,600 Speaker 1: I always talk to Mickey. Mickey's good. He'll take pictures 708 00:34:41,600 --> 00:34:44,760 Speaker 1: with you. Hey, what's the you know your your biggest 709 00:34:44,760 --> 00:34:47,760 Speaker 1: concern and your hostess show today? Is there a concern 710 00:34:47,840 --> 00:34:51,200 Speaker 1: that you have going into this this game? Is there something? 711 00:34:51,239 --> 00:34:53,480 Speaker 1: I mean, the giants are what they are that you know, 712 00:34:53,480 --> 00:34:55,040 Speaker 1: the cow we we're trying to learn. I mean we 713 00:34:55,400 --> 00:34:57,240 Speaker 1: have an idea. We've been watching this team for thirty 714 00:34:57,280 --> 00:35:01,359 Speaker 1: some odd practices, four preseason games. Is there anything that 715 00:35:01,440 --> 00:35:04,080 Speaker 1: you you're thinking, like, man, I just can't wrap my 716 00:35:04,120 --> 00:35:07,680 Speaker 1: hands around this one right now overall or just for 717 00:35:07,719 --> 00:35:11,080 Speaker 1: this matchup, just for this matchup, just this matchup I 718 00:35:11,120 --> 00:35:13,200 Speaker 1: think you talked about. I mean, Barkley is the one 719 00:35:13,280 --> 00:35:15,719 Speaker 1: guy that you look at this matchup and say he 720 00:35:15,840 --> 00:35:20,360 Speaker 1: is a he is a problem. They've both running receiving. 721 00:35:20,680 --> 00:35:22,279 Speaker 1: They've just got to find a way to contain him. 722 00:35:22,320 --> 00:35:25,400 Speaker 1: And But based on what I've seen from this team 723 00:35:25,440 --> 00:35:29,160 Speaker 1: through thirty days of training camp in preseason games, they've 724 00:35:29,200 --> 00:35:32,719 Speaker 1: been solid at all levels. Like I, defens just look good. Though, yeah, 725 00:35:32,719 --> 00:35:36,920 Speaker 1: I mean the starters and you can't you can't say, okay, 726 00:35:36,960 --> 00:35:39,600 Speaker 1: well the Rams didn't play and then the forty I 727 00:35:39,640 --> 00:35:42,239 Speaker 1: don't care. When they've had to do their job. They've 728 00:35:42,280 --> 00:35:44,600 Speaker 1: had to do their job. Those guys have stepped up. 729 00:35:44,640 --> 00:35:47,120 Speaker 1: I've seen a lot of three and outs. I've seen punts, 730 00:35:47,120 --> 00:35:49,839 Speaker 1: I've seen turnovers. I've seen a lot of things from 731 00:35:49,840 --> 00:35:54,080 Speaker 1: this defense that I like, you know, yeah, I feel 732 00:35:54,080 --> 00:35:56,399 Speaker 1: good about. They do have weapons, They've got Ingraham, they've 733 00:35:56,400 --> 00:35:59,560 Speaker 1: got Shepherd. If there's one thing for me, I know, 734 00:35:59,560 --> 00:36:02,319 Speaker 1: I've talked about the Kicker situation. Uh, you want to 735 00:36:02,320 --> 00:36:06,000 Speaker 1: see Brett maher continue to continue the consistency we saw 736 00:36:06,080 --> 00:36:08,120 Speaker 1: down the stretch of camp, right, we were going after 737 00:36:08,160 --> 00:36:09,719 Speaker 1: him a little bit and he started kicking the ball. 738 00:36:09,760 --> 00:36:11,759 Speaker 1: Well he did, he did, um, you know, made a 739 00:36:11,800 --> 00:36:14,759 Speaker 1: trump that I got one more. And it really is 740 00:36:14,760 --> 00:36:18,880 Speaker 1: the guys coming off of either an absence or injury, 741 00:36:18,880 --> 00:36:21,319 Speaker 1: are they are they going to come back and get 742 00:36:21,360 --> 00:36:24,200 Speaker 1: back into the standard that they're used to play at. 743 00:36:24,200 --> 00:36:26,239 Speaker 1: I think I think d Laws ready, but we you know, 744 00:36:26,239 --> 00:36:29,479 Speaker 1: he haven't seen him for you know, several months until 745 00:36:29,480 --> 00:36:31,560 Speaker 1: he got back into practice. Recently. We talked about Byron 746 00:36:31,880 --> 00:36:34,200 Speaker 1: talked about Zeke being gone for forty days, right, So 747 00:36:34,320 --> 00:36:36,360 Speaker 1: I was gonna ask Micky, what do you feel good about? 748 00:36:36,960 --> 00:36:40,719 Speaker 1: I feel good about everything? Okay. I got asked the 749 00:36:40,800 --> 00:36:44,640 Speaker 1: question on a season preview show, you know, offense defense, 750 00:36:44,680 --> 00:36:47,240 Speaker 1: and I said both, yeah, because I think they're strong 751 00:36:47,320 --> 00:36:49,239 Speaker 1: on both sides. I agree with that. And I think 752 00:36:49,280 --> 00:36:51,839 Speaker 1: people are finally kind of getting on board with this 753 00:36:51,920 --> 00:36:54,600 Speaker 1: because I think when they started training camp it was like, oh, 754 00:36:54,680 --> 00:36:58,640 Speaker 1: the Cowboys, right, and I think everybody was remembering getting 755 00:36:58,680 --> 00:37:01,680 Speaker 1: beat against the Rams in the playoff game. They forgot 756 00:37:01,719 --> 00:37:04,359 Speaker 1: that they went seven and one down the stretch last year. 757 00:37:04,480 --> 00:37:07,879 Speaker 1: That's that's no mistake. That doesn't just happen. They were 758 00:37:07,960 --> 00:37:10,439 Speaker 1: dominant except for one game when they got shut out 759 00:37:10,440 --> 00:37:15,640 Speaker 1: by the Colts. Yeah, that shut out cold pretty good teams. 760 00:37:16,080 --> 00:37:19,360 Speaker 1: So to me there and here's the thing. So I 761 00:37:19,440 --> 00:37:23,279 Speaker 1: was going to say about the kicking thing, eliminate that, 762 00:37:23,920 --> 00:37:26,799 Speaker 1: score touchdowns. Well, then I want to see them when 763 00:37:26,800 --> 00:37:32,080 Speaker 1: they get inside. Even when they were brought up yesterday yesterday, 764 00:37:32,320 --> 00:37:34,560 Speaker 1: in five of the eight games the second half of 765 00:37:34,600 --> 00:37:36,880 Speaker 1: the season, when they scored twenty seven or more points, 766 00:37:37,040 --> 00:37:39,879 Speaker 1: they still were having trouble inside the ten yard line. 767 00:37:40,120 --> 00:37:42,279 Speaker 1: So I want to see if that's solved. You know, 768 00:37:42,520 --> 00:37:45,840 Speaker 1: red zone, Fine, that's twenty in they had their biggest 769 00:37:45,920 --> 00:37:48,680 Speaker 1: problems inside the ten yard line. So I want to 770 00:37:48,719 --> 00:37:52,359 Speaker 1: see what they can do score and touchdowns. And if 771 00:37:52,360 --> 00:37:55,279 Speaker 1: you remember when when when Kellen Moore was asked the 772 00:37:55,400 --> 00:37:57,120 Speaker 1: question about how do you solve that? He goes, we 773 00:37:57,200 --> 00:37:59,880 Speaker 1: got to run the ball better, right, So let me 774 00:38:00,040 --> 00:38:01,719 Speaker 1: see you when you get to the seven yard line, 775 00:38:01,760 --> 00:38:04,960 Speaker 1: can you bust it in there and score touchdown? Joe Looney, 776 00:38:05,160 --> 00:38:09,399 Speaker 1: Olda Wally, whoever else you have to use, Zeke, I'm 777 00:38:09,440 --> 00:38:11,560 Speaker 1: interested in. I'm Jason Witton how about that. I think 778 00:38:11,680 --> 00:38:13,880 Speaker 1: Jason Witten is going to be a big red zone 779 00:38:13,960 --> 00:38:16,360 Speaker 1: help this year. I set it a bunch eighteen yards 780 00:38:16,360 --> 00:38:19,160 Speaker 1: in keep an eye on Jason Witton and what he 781 00:38:19,200 --> 00:38:21,200 Speaker 1: can do and help you in this situation. Even if 782 00:38:21,200 --> 00:38:23,040 Speaker 1: they run the even that they're running the ball, but 783 00:38:23,080 --> 00:38:26,280 Speaker 1: they go play action and they have it's Witton always 784 00:38:26,320 --> 00:38:28,560 Speaker 1: finds a way to get open and he's just an 785 00:38:28,560 --> 00:38:31,719 Speaker 1: easy target to throw the ball to down there. So yeah, 786 00:38:31,800 --> 00:38:35,040 Speaker 1: I think you guys have got this thing right, this 787 00:38:35,760 --> 00:38:38,640 Speaker 1: whole thing with the you know, it's it's easy to 788 00:38:38,800 --> 00:38:42,200 Speaker 1: nitpick on the kicking thing, but it is what it is. 789 00:38:42,239 --> 00:38:43,960 Speaker 1: I mean, you just don't want to lose a game 790 00:38:44,040 --> 00:38:47,160 Speaker 1: or have come away with no points because you're missing 791 00:38:47,160 --> 00:38:49,680 Speaker 1: a thirty eight yard field goal. Yeah, I understand the 792 00:38:49,719 --> 00:38:52,919 Speaker 1: fifty three yard field goal, that's a gamble. But the 793 00:38:52,920 --> 00:38:56,120 Speaker 1: thirty eight yard field goal, the thirty seven yard field goal, 794 00:38:56,120 --> 00:38:59,880 Speaker 1: the thirty two yard field goal, you can't miss though. 795 00:39:00,360 --> 00:39:01,880 Speaker 1: That That to me, he's just like giving him a 796 00:39:01,880 --> 00:39:04,760 Speaker 1: turnover right there. Absolutely. Plus it's you know, it's weird 797 00:39:05,760 --> 00:39:08,920 Speaker 1: you drove all that way and you didn't score a touchdown, right, 798 00:39:09,120 --> 00:39:12,480 Speaker 1: But if if you miss a field goal and deflate you. Right, 799 00:39:12,640 --> 00:39:15,839 Speaker 1: not scoring the touchdown doesn't deflate you as much as 800 00:39:16,040 --> 00:39:19,160 Speaker 1: oh god, yeah, we just gave away three points. Oh 801 00:39:19,200 --> 00:39:21,680 Speaker 1: you gave away four other points because you didn't score 802 00:39:21,680 --> 00:39:23,520 Speaker 1: the touch They have maintained they have a lot of 803 00:39:23,520 --> 00:39:25,480 Speaker 1: confidence in him and he has a ton of talent. 804 00:39:25,560 --> 00:39:28,680 Speaker 1: I mean, you see the leg um Stephen Jones said 805 00:39:28,760 --> 00:39:30,560 Speaker 1: last week. They're not concerned at all about him. So 806 00:39:30,800 --> 00:39:33,320 Speaker 1: can I flip this around there? What about Chris Jones? 807 00:39:34,080 --> 00:39:36,720 Speaker 1: We we haven't last year. We didn't see the punts, 808 00:39:36,800 --> 00:39:39,560 Speaker 1: the downed punts or the you know, we didn't see 809 00:39:39,600 --> 00:39:42,640 Speaker 1: that from him. Is that is he? Is he part 810 00:39:42,640 --> 00:39:46,080 Speaker 1: of this concern? Or is he? Oh, it's Chris Jones. 811 00:39:46,160 --> 00:39:49,000 Speaker 1: He's a captain, he's you know, he's gonna average forty 812 00:39:49,600 --> 00:39:52,960 Speaker 1: five point seven a punt? Are we are we looking 813 00:39:53,000 --> 00:39:54,799 Speaker 1: for it? Was it a bounce back here? Or am 814 00:39:54,840 --> 00:39:59,080 Speaker 1: I saying? Has he been so good that even having 815 00:39:59,120 --> 00:40:02,520 Speaker 1: an average year look bad so long as he can 816 00:40:02,560 --> 00:40:07,560 Speaker 1: still directionally kick and eliminate returns. That's because this team 817 00:40:07,640 --> 00:40:10,560 Speaker 1: did not go down and cover punch, well, not at all. 818 00:40:10,560 --> 00:40:12,680 Speaker 1: So if you're trying to hit boomers and giving them 819 00:40:12,719 --> 00:40:15,600 Speaker 1: a chance to return. I worry about that because they're 820 00:40:15,640 --> 00:40:18,239 Speaker 1: gunners for some reason. Don't get down there and do much. 821 00:40:18,280 --> 00:40:21,440 Speaker 1: So to me, if he if he averages forty yards 822 00:40:21,480 --> 00:40:23,600 Speaker 1: a kick, but he pins them on the sideline, whether 823 00:40:23,640 --> 00:40:27,560 Speaker 1: they can't return the punt, then I'm fine with that. 824 00:40:27,719 --> 00:40:32,280 Speaker 1: And I'm assuming on their deal here Peppers or Lattimore 825 00:40:32,480 --> 00:40:36,120 Speaker 1: or Slayton are going to return, right, So just don't 826 00:40:36,120 --> 00:40:39,080 Speaker 1: give them the opportunity. I'm fine with that. Just don't 827 00:40:39,200 --> 00:40:41,759 Speaker 1: lose the game because you let a guy have a 828 00:40:41,800 --> 00:40:45,640 Speaker 1: big punt return or you fumbled a punt. That's true, 829 00:40:45,680 --> 00:40:47,640 Speaker 1: all right, we got two minutes left, a little less. 830 00:40:47,680 --> 00:40:51,560 Speaker 1: That's it. Lance in Philly, take us home what you got? Yes, 831 00:40:52,000 --> 00:40:53,960 Speaker 1: what's happening to guys? Always lest the see I love it, 832 00:40:54,080 --> 00:40:57,759 Speaker 1: Thank you, appreciate that. All good? A couple of things, guys, um, 833 00:40:58,000 --> 00:41:01,759 Speaker 1: what do you feel the season? The three things? Do 834 00:41:01,800 --> 00:41:04,840 Speaker 1: you feel? The season? Hinges on and in my opinion, 835 00:41:05,640 --> 00:41:09,080 Speaker 1: aside from injuries, of course, my opinion, I feel it. 836 00:41:09,560 --> 00:41:18,200 Speaker 1: Kellen Moore second division record and third Connor Williams, I'd 837 00:41:18,200 --> 00:41:20,480 Speaker 1: like to know what you gotta think, Go Cowboys. I 838 00:41:20,480 --> 00:41:24,040 Speaker 1: haven't felt this good about a season since literally ninety 839 00:41:24,120 --> 00:41:26,319 Speaker 1: two and I've been a fan from seventy eight, so 840 00:41:26,400 --> 00:41:30,480 Speaker 1: I'm feeling really good. Let's stay healthy, Go Cowboys. Ye don't. 841 00:41:30,520 --> 00:41:32,200 Speaker 1: I don't know if I would say just Connor Williams, 842 00:41:32,280 --> 00:41:35,200 Speaker 1: but maybe just the cohesion of this veteran offensive line 843 00:41:35,239 --> 00:41:39,279 Speaker 1: is all Frederick in there coming back. You know, zach'smissed time. 844 00:41:39,280 --> 00:41:41,680 Speaker 1: They haven't had a lot of time together in the preseason. 845 00:41:41,840 --> 00:41:44,400 Speaker 1: They are a veteran group minus Connor is in his 846 00:41:44,440 --> 00:41:46,200 Speaker 1: second year. Look, if you don't get where you want 847 00:41:46,239 --> 00:41:48,000 Speaker 1: to go and you blame it on the left guard, 848 00:41:48,600 --> 00:41:51,560 Speaker 1: you had other problems. Yeah, how about this one? We 849 00:41:51,680 --> 00:41:55,160 Speaker 1: just talked about it. How about scoring defense? You know, 850 00:41:55,280 --> 00:41:57,120 Speaker 1: not a concern. I mean you need to see that. 851 00:41:57,160 --> 00:41:58,680 Speaker 1: I mean that if they can find a way to 852 00:41:59,040 --> 00:42:02,000 Speaker 1: shut people down, keep the scoring defense be top five. 853 00:42:02,320 --> 00:42:05,360 Speaker 1: They're gonna give up yards potentially. But the scoring defense, 854 00:42:05,400 --> 00:42:07,279 Speaker 1: I think is the most important. Mickey brought up the 855 00:42:07,280 --> 00:42:11,080 Speaker 1: red zone offense, scoring points, finishing drives. I think that's 856 00:42:11,080 --> 00:42:13,680 Speaker 1: more important. And I do like the Kellen Moore thing. 857 00:42:13,760 --> 00:42:16,080 Speaker 1: I do like the Kellen Moore angle here. I do 858 00:42:16,200 --> 00:42:19,759 Speaker 1: like his the thought about what he potentially can be 859 00:42:19,760 --> 00:42:21,600 Speaker 1: because I do feel like he's going to take his 860 00:42:21,680 --> 00:42:24,319 Speaker 1: weapons and try and advance things with him. I think 861 00:42:24,360 --> 00:42:27,000 Speaker 1: he's gonna he's gonna call a different game than what 862 00:42:27,040 --> 00:42:29,839 Speaker 1: we've seen from Scott Linahan in previous years. And I'll 863 00:42:29,920 --> 00:42:32,040 Speaker 1: just give you one more real quick. If this defense 864 00:42:32,160 --> 00:42:34,200 Speaker 1: is going to be dominant, then we've got to can't 865 00:42:34,239 --> 00:42:37,200 Speaker 1: finish twenty ninth and takeaways. Ye got to get the ball. 866 00:42:37,320 --> 00:42:39,920 Speaker 1: That's get this ball back to this offense because this 867 00:42:40,000 --> 00:42:43,040 Speaker 1: offense is going to be awfully good. Yep. Hellman was 868 00:42:43,080 --> 00:42:45,360 Speaker 1: trying to get your attention behind you, I think, and 869 00:42:45,400 --> 00:42:48,560 Speaker 1: it's not working. It's not working because Brian's a pro 870 00:42:48,680 --> 00:42:51,520 Speaker 1: and he's focused. Yea, all right, and he can't see 871 00:42:51,560 --> 00:42:54,400 Speaker 1: behind his back, that's true, but he's also a pro. 872 00:42:54,640 --> 00:42:57,239 Speaker 1: The break is next with Dave and the Gang two 873 00:42:57,239 --> 00:43:00,640 Speaker 1: o'clock press conference. Don't forget Okay, thanks for for listening. 874 00:43:00,719 --> 00:43:02,560 Speaker 1: We'll be back on Friday to wrap up the week 875 00:43:02,560 --> 00:43:05,520 Speaker 1: of Cowboys Giants on Talking Cowboys. This has been a 876 00:43:05,560 --> 00:43:09,120 Speaker 1: production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com and the Dallas Cowboys 877 00:43:09,200 --> 00:43:09,879 Speaker 1: Football Club