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Speaker 2: jmart First and foremost. Man, I know there's some scary

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Speaker 2: weather rolling through your neck of the woods. I know

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Speaker 2: you're on air, so everything must be okay for the moment.

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Speaker 2: But you're holding up okay down there.

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Speaker 3: My man, everything's good. Wind is picking up. We'll see

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Speaker 3: what happens tonight. Hopefully, hopefully it just be a lot

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Speaker 3: So we're gonna see what happens over the next three

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Speaker 3: hours and overnight and just hope everybody is safe. And

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Speaker 3: if you end up getting stuck out in the car

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Speaker 3: for a little long longer and you happen to be

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Speaker 3: in my neck of the woods, here in Tennessee or

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Speaker 3: somewhere else to stealing with a storm. Hopefully we'll be

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Speaker 3: able to entertain you over the next three hours.

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Speaker 2: Hopefully we will be able to entertain you. And there

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Speaker 2: is you know, I feel like all things consider a

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Speaker 2: lot to talk about Waldewall college hoops. We will talk

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Speaker 2: a little bit about whatever is left of this All

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Speaker 2: Star weekend, g leaguers winning the dunk contest. I think

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Speaker 2: we have four different teams competing next tomorrow night on

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Speaker 2: the All Star Game itself. Yeah, Adam Silver also with

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Speaker 2: some very interesting comments about Luca, So we'll get to

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Speaker 2: all that in a minute. But Jaymart, you and I

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Speaker 2: obviously been in this time slot for quite a while

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Speaker 2: now Saturday night, which means that this is really the

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Speaker 2: first time that we are getting a chance to react

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Speaker 2: to a little thing that people call the Super Bowl. Listen,

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Speaker 2: I know that that if you've been plugged into Fox

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Speaker 2: Sports Radio, you've gotten Waldawall coverage from everybody across the

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Speaker 2: networks over the last couple of days. But it doesn't

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Speaker 2: change the fact that this is still a major story,

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Speaker 2: major ramifications, major repercussions. The Helfhy Eagles are your Super

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Speaker 2: Bowl champs, winning forty to twenty two in a game that,

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Speaker 2: as we all know, really wasn't that close. They were

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Speaker 2: up thirty four to six heading into the fourth chord

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Speaker 2: before the Kansas City Chiefs put up a couple of

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Speaker 2: garbage touchdowns. We're gonna break this game down from a

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Speaker 2: lot of different angles, but just kind of want to

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Speaker 2: give you the floor, your whatever, not first thoughts because

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Speaker 2: we're a week removed, but just your big whatever. The

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Speaker 2: first thing is that stands out to you when talking

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Speaker 2: about last Sunday Super.

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Speaker 3: Bowl, Well, the question that I asked before I ended

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Speaker 3: up picking the Eagles, as did you, was can Philadelphia

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Speaker 3: bee Tampa Bay from a couple of years ago? And

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Speaker 3: the answer was a resounding yes. The defense was formidable,

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Speaker 3: to say the least, and Kansas City just didn't have

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Speaker 3: any answers, nor did they have any adjustments when it

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Speaker 3: came down to it. But I do think that maybe

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Speaker 3: the first thing that we all need to do is

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Speaker 3: step back and appreciate jo Onen Hurts a little more

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Speaker 3: than we do, because this is the second Super Bowl

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Speaker 3: against Patrick Mahomes where I think he outplayed him. This

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Speaker 3: one was much more, was a much bigger difference, and again,

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Speaker 3: the defenses were not comparable between these two. But Jay

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Speaker 3: when Hurts has showed up and showed out in big

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Speaker 3: games throughout his career, and he's been doubted over and

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Speaker 3: over again. He's also one of the easiest guys to

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Speaker 3: root for in all of pro sports, dating back to

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Speaker 3: everything that happened to him in college, the way he

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Speaker 3: just everything that he has said since, and the way

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Speaker 3: he's conducted himself in Philadelphia as an Eagle very likable.

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Speaker 3: I don't find that team to be particularly likable, but

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Speaker 3: I find Jay when Hurts to be particularly likable. So

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Speaker 3: I think before we start tearing down the Kansas City

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Speaker 3: appreciate that Jayenhard has done something Josh Allen hasn't been

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Speaker 3: Almost nobody in this league has been able to do

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Speaker 3: what he has done to Patrick Mahomes in games that

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Speaker 3: Mahomes is supposed to dominate. And that's my first takeaway

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, it's old as cliche, and it was

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Speaker 2: was Jalen Hurts. And the story is incredible, and by

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Speaker 2: the way, he was phenomenal on Sunday. To me, the

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Speaker 2: And the reason that I picked the Philadelphia Eagles is,

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Speaker 2: I know there's this narrative of y oh, you can't

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Speaker 2: I really said, listen, the Chiefs have great individual parts,

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Speaker 2: really looked at just about every position, you would say

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Speaker 2: position group by position group. Other than quarterback, Philadelphia Eagles

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Speaker 2: were better, obviously a better running back at Saquon Barkley,

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Speaker 2: obviously better wide receivers with AJ Brown and Devonte Smith.

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Speaker 2: I would argue at this point in his career, Dallas

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Speaker 2: Goddard is better. Although obviously I understand that the Mahomes

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Speaker 2: go to the defense and it's pretty much the same,

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Speaker 2: and so that to me is the biggest thing. But

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Speaker 2: then I think you can also take your point and

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Speaker 2: marry it with my point, and you could pretty easily

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Speaker 2: come to understand why Philadelphia won that game.

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Speaker 3: Sure, better at pretty.

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Speaker 2: Much every spot, But then Jalen Hurts was also phenomenal.

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Speaker 2: And you know, I've never been somebody that's you know,

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Speaker 2: story and the narrow in Alabama and all that, But

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Speaker 2: I've never been somebody that, even as a pro, has

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Speaker 2: this or Jalen Hurts, isn't that Like Listen, I don't

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Speaker 2: don't know that it's really a take. It's just kind

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Speaker 2: can pretty easily figure out how how that game got

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean the Chiefs pick was fully reliant upon

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Speaker 3: Like there's there's more that there's better things that I

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Speaker 3: this stage than waiting around to you know, see the

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Speaker 3: I understand it was forty to twenty two. Nobody thinks

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Speaker 3: Eagles were the best team and you know, you look

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Speaker 3: maybe those are the only two teams in that conference

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Speaker 3: that could have done what we saw there. But this

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Speaker 3: Eagles team was built to win like this. They were constructed, well,

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Speaker 3: they were put together well. You know, we haven't talked

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Speaker 3: That's That's what I'll say after this. I don't know

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Speaker 3: a positive in terms of there's a nastiness to them.

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Speaker 3: There's an arrogance to them, there's a cockiness to them.

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Speaker 3: I don't know, but they certainly showed up against that

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Speaker 3: that beat them years ago, this was far worse. This

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Speaker 3: Like this was. This felt like an exposure in a

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Speaker 2: You know, we have a lot of different topics laid

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Speaker 2: up from this game, and we'll get some of them,

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Speaker 2: maybe some of them we don't. But big picture, let's

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Speaker 2: talk about the Chiefs ser a minute, because you know

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Speaker 2: one thing for me, and listen, by the way, most

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Speaker 2: teams do have holes. You mentioned the Lions and the

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Speaker 2: they don't have this, they don't have that. The Ravens

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Speaker 2: have some issues. Everybody has something. It does feel like

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Speaker 2: the Kansas City. I don't know, like like I want

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Speaker 2: to do exactly what you said to lead the show,

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Speaker 2: which is not just pile on the Chiefs and they

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Speaker 2: were overrated all year and they were terrible all year

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Speaker 2: and bought no but you know, we go back to

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Speaker 2: all the one score games Jmart and I do think

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Speaker 2: that was probably a symptom of the bigger issue, which

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Speaker 2: is that, you know, I thought Mahomes this year honestly

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Speaker 2: don't have any elite wide receivers. Maybe Xavier Worthy gets

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Speaker 2: there someday, maybe, but we don't have the deep threats.

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Speaker 2: Travis Kelsey is clearly not the player that he was,

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Speaker 2: And like I like, I think like it's a credit

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Speaker 2: I also think that you know, it was also they

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Speaker 2: were in so many close games, not because they were coasting,

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Speaker 2: not because they were getting ready for the postseason, not

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Speaker 2: because they were distracted, but maybe just because they were

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Speaker 2: way more limited than we realized that. It took a

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Speaker 2: game like this to to expose that. Do you think

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Speaker 2: that's a crazy take for me or you think it's

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Speaker 2: pretty spot on?

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Speaker 3: No, I think that's right. I mean I think that

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Speaker 3: Chris Jones is still a beast Mahomes. It's not like

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Speaker 3: was in terms of his overall talent. Kelsey has one

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Speaker 2: All right, J Martin, moment of truth. You already told

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Speaker 3: Oh okay, now we're putting words in my mouth. I

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Speaker 2: Okay, maybe I misread anyway, So one of my takeaways

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Speaker 3: the Ravens is they haven't been able to get there

432
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Speaker 3: to prove that, which is, you know, it's its own concern,

433
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Speaker 3: it's its own issue. But I still think as teams

434
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Speaker 3: in terms of how they're constructed, I think both of

435
00:21:15,920 --> 00:21:18,720
Speaker 3: them are superior rosters to the Kansas City Chiefs.

436
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I you know, Baltimore is the one that I

437
00:21:21,200 --> 00:21:23,560
Speaker 2: get a little tripped up. I think Baltimore is probably

438
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Speaker 2: the most complete team in the AFC. And again, and

439
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Speaker 2: by the way, you go back to that divisional round

440
00:21:29,320 --> 00:21:33,320
Speaker 2: game where basically, and I know I keep saying it

441
00:21:33,359 --> 00:21:35,320
Speaker 2: as if I'm picky on one person in specific, but

442
00:21:35,400 --> 00:21:38,760
Speaker 2: like the kind of outplayed Buffalo basically the final thirty

443
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Speaker 2: five to forty minutes of that game. And if Mark

444
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Speaker 2: Andrews doesn't have the fumble, if Mark Andrews doesn't have

445
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Speaker 2: to drop pass, we're maybe talking about, you know, Baltimore

446
00:21:46,080 --> 00:21:48,760
Speaker 2: versus Kansas City, and maybe who knows, Baltimore versus Philadelphia

447
00:21:48,840 --> 00:21:51,720
Speaker 2: didn't happen with Buffalo, though I would disagree a little

448
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Speaker 2: bit because I look at Buffalo and one certainly listen,

449
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Speaker 2: I don't think the coaching helped them in the AFC

450
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Speaker 2: Championship game. We've talked about a time and time again,

451
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Speaker 2: but the run game was good, but that for some

452
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Speaker 2: reason they went away from it. But they don't have

453
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Speaker 2: a number one wide receiver like they did, you know,

454
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Speaker 2: a couple of years ago with with Stefan Diggs d line.

455
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Speaker 2: You know, Ed Oliver is great, but like there's a

456
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Speaker 2: reason that everybody wants him to go after Miles Garrett.

457
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Speaker 2: So I just I don't know, like I do think

458
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Speaker 2: that Buffalo, I think when you really break it down,

459
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Speaker 2: I don't know. I just I think that Josh Allen

460
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Speaker 2: makes up for a lot of mistakes. And then I

461
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Speaker 2: will give them credit because they established a run game

462
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Speaker 2: throughout the season, but it wasn't as though. You know,

463
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Speaker 2: the defense certainly had some bad, bad games and bad moments.

464
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Speaker 2: You know, gave up forty points what and back to

465
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Speaker 2: back games late in the season. Whatever it was. So,

466
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Speaker 2: you know, I think I'm getting maybe we're getting a

467
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Speaker 2: little nitpicky at this point. I don't, But I don't

468
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Speaker 2: think Buffalo was a great roster a great team. Gave

469
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Speaker 2: up forty two to by the Way, forty four to

470
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Speaker 2: the Rams, forty two to the Lions in the final

471
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Speaker 2: couple weeks. Yeah, I don't know. I just I don't

472
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Speaker 2: think Buffalo had a great roster. I just I don't.

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Speaker 2: I just think Josh Allen made up for a lot

474
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Speaker 2: of mistakes with them.

475
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Speaker 3: Well, I mean you can, you can try to argue that,

476
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Speaker 3: but I mean Cook really emerged. Their offensive line was stellar.

477
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Speaker 3: I mean they were still outscoring teams, but but Alan

478
00:23:10,240 --> 00:23:13,320
Speaker 3: had a lot of time throughout much of that Cook

479
00:23:13,440 --> 00:23:18,440
Speaker 3: was doing really solid work. The not having a Stefan

480
00:23:18,520 --> 00:23:20,960
Speaker 3: Diggs like wide receiver that certainly was a big deal.

481
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Speaker 3: And yes, when you have a great quarterback that's going

482
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Speaker 3: to cover up some of your other deficiencies, but you're

483
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Speaker 3: still talking about von Miller, who has Super Bowl rings

484
00:23:28,080 --> 00:23:30,919
Speaker 3: and understands how to win. There you got other guys

485
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Speaker 3: like Milano and guys that still really get after the

486
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Speaker 3: football on the defensive side. I don't think that you

487
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Speaker 3: can throw out the Buffalo Bills. I still look at

488
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Speaker 3: them and say, just from a roster and what they

489
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Speaker 3: had built, the talent on that team and the way

490
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Speaker 3: that it was set up, I like them over the

491
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Speaker 3: Chiefs from a roster standpoint. And yes, Baltimore, for sure,

492
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Speaker 3: you know you added Derek Henry to what they already had,

493
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Speaker 3: but you also and the only other thing is you

494
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Speaker 3: lose A Flowers, and that makes a pretty big deal

495
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Speaker 3: if you're Baltimore. Again, I think that you could say

496
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Speaker 3: the AFC as a whole we might have overvalued. I

497
00:24:04,840 --> 00:24:09,280
Speaker 3: think we certainly overvalued the NFC North based on what

498
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Speaker 3: they did in the playoffs, but we certainly also did

499
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Speaker 3: the same for the AFC North because Pittsburgh got through.

500
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Speaker 3: But Pittsburgh we kind of knew, wasn't that good. The

501
00:24:17,880 --> 00:24:21,439
Speaker 3: Bengals underperformed despite what Joe Burrow did for them because

502
00:24:21,680 --> 00:24:23,800
Speaker 3: and you know it cost Louis and a Rimo his job.

503
00:24:24,200 --> 00:24:26,040
Speaker 3: Whether it should have or not, I don't know. He

504
00:24:26,080 --> 00:24:28,240
Speaker 3: didn't make the picks in terms of the guys that

505
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Speaker 3: he had out there, and you know, you had to

506
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Speaker 3: play with what he had, but you know, you look

507
00:24:32,720 --> 00:24:33,960
Speaker 3: at them as a whole. And then of course the

508
00:24:33,960 --> 00:24:36,760
Speaker 3: Browns were the Browns. But I think that it's more

509
00:24:36,880 --> 00:24:39,040
Speaker 3: just about the NFC and the fact that the Lions

510
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Speaker 3: and the Eagles, both those teams, the drafting that's been done,

511
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Speaker 3: the moves that have been made. That's why they were

512
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Speaker 3: that successful. Is they had front offices and they had

513
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Speaker 3: staffs that were ready for the moment, even though the

514
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Speaker 3: Lions clearly haven't gotten there yet and maybe they won't

515
00:25:00,119 --> 00:25:02,479
Speaker 3: because as I've told you before, I don't believe in windows,

516
00:25:02,520 --> 00:25:05,720
Speaker 3: and you just lost your coordinators. But those were the

517
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Speaker 3: two best teams in football when you really looked at it,

518
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Speaker 3: from one to fifty two, those are the ones that

519
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Speaker 3: I think that you could really They didn't have many flaws,

520
00:25:15,000 --> 00:25:17,879
Speaker 3: boring injuries, which is what happened to the Lions. And

521
00:25:17,920 --> 00:25:19,919
Speaker 3: then of course you had a quarterback in Jared Goff

522
00:25:19,920 --> 00:25:22,800
Speaker 3: that has come up small in his biggest moments, whereas

523
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Speaker 3: jal when Hurts is the opposite, and one of those

524
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Speaker 3: guys has won a Super Bowl and the other one

525
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Speaker 3: has it.

526
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Speaker 2: Tell you what is the AFC better? Is the NFC better?

527
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Speaker 2: I don't know, but I do know that there is

528
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Speaker 2: one quarterback that is definitively better than Patrick Mahomes. We're

529
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Speaker 2: going to discuss him next Fox Sports Radio. Oh you

530
00:25:40,000 --> 00:25:40,280
Speaker 2: liked that.

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Speaker 5: That was good.

532
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Speaker 2: I worked on that.

533
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Speaker 3: I know of whom you were speaking and I would agree,

534
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Speaker 3: But yes, that was well done. I didn't see that

535
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Speaker 3: one coming.

536
00:25:47,720 --> 00:25:49,359
Speaker 2: I worked on that one in the mirror today. Let's

537
00:25:49,359 --> 00:25:51,719
Speaker 2: spend a lot lot of time prepping that one. All right,

538
00:25:51,760 --> 00:25:53,720
Speaker 2: let's get it. I'll tell you what. I'll work on

539
00:25:53,800 --> 00:25:55,439
Speaker 2: some teesues for later in the show too, But right now,

540
00:25:55,440 --> 00:25:56,840
Speaker 2: we got to get over the news desk to Seger.

541
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Speaker 2: The floor is yours, my.

542
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Speaker 6: Friend, Jesus, he's a professional.

543
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Speaker 2: Do you do you know how time?

544
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Speaker 6: No, I've been teased.

545
00:26:03,800 --> 00:26:05,200
Speaker 2: I'm staying two Okay?

546
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Speaker 3: Who it is?

547
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Speaker 2: Oh you're staying okay. I appreciate you sticking out, Thank

548
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Speaker 2: you very much.

549
00:26:08,680 --> 00:26:13,480
Speaker 6: It's not stick I can tell you that nice poll there.

550
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Speaker 6: Hockey's Four Nations face off was in Montreal tonight the

551
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Speaker 6: US one in Canada three to one, despite trailing one

552
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Speaker 6: nothing early in this round robin format, the US at

553
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Speaker 6: two and oh, we'll be in Thursday Night's title game.

554
00:26:26,320 --> 00:26:29,719
Speaker 6: NBA All Star Saturday Night was in San Francisco this evening.

555
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Speaker 6: The Slam Dunk Contest winner for the third straight year

556
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Speaker 6: is Mac McClung, first to do so three straight years.

557
00:26:37,760 --> 00:26:40,879
Speaker 6: By the way, Nate Robinson has won three total titles

558
00:26:40,920 --> 00:26:43,520
Speaker 6: in this It just wasn't three straight years. I love

559
00:26:43,560 --> 00:26:46,239
Speaker 6: the people at the Sports Net in Canada figured this

560
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Speaker 6: out that to set up his four perfect dunks tonight,

561
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Speaker 6: the time taken was just over five minutes total in

562
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Speaker 6: this contest. He's played under five minutes total in the

563
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Speaker 6: NBA this season.

564
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Speaker 2: I was gonna say, Mac McClung perfection is just not

565
00:27:00,720 --> 00:27:02,000
Speaker 2: on his jump shot. I can tell you how.

566
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Speaker 7: I mean.

567
00:27:02,359 --> 00:27:04,960
Speaker 3: It took them like two minutes to get that key

568
00:27:05,040 --> 00:27:07,880
Speaker 3: into position, and Kia paid for every second of that too.

569
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Speaker 6: Yeah, and he got a perfect score on that, even

570
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Speaker 6: though he didn't actually jump over the car his foot.

571
00:27:12,880 --> 00:27:14,600
Speaker 3: It hit it on the dad, but he clipped it

572
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Speaker 3: on the way down.

573
00:27:15,240 --> 00:27:18,399
Speaker 6: Yeah, and they didn't land properly went sprawling. But okay,

574
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Speaker 6: sure fifty whatever All Star Game is Sunday night in

575
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Speaker 6: San Francisco. That is now a fourteen mini tournament in

576
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Speaker 6: college basketball.

577
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Speaker 3: I know.

578
00:27:26,880 --> 00:27:29,520
Speaker 6: So it's not a game prepared, it's the games plural.

579
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Speaker 3: They tried to explain that after the dunk contest. I'm

580
00:27:32,359 --> 00:27:35,000
Speaker 3: sooner listening to it, Like okay, I still don't get it,

581
00:27:35,200 --> 00:27:37,040
Speaker 3: but I wasn't gonna watch anyway, so it doesn't matter.

582
00:27:37,080 --> 00:27:40,280
Speaker 3: But like, what all these are they doing tomorrow night?

583
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Speaker 6: It's the first team to forty points win.

584
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Speaker 2: We'll talk about this in an hour two But you

585
00:27:45,440 --> 00:27:47,399
Speaker 2: know you need you need to have You need to

586
00:27:47,400 --> 00:27:49,560
Speaker 2: be like Matt Patricia, new Ohio State coach and have

587
00:27:49,600 --> 00:27:53,320
Speaker 2: an aeronautical engineering degree to figure out. Like remember when

588
00:27:53,359 --> 00:27:55,520
Speaker 2: we were on air when they announced the midseason tournament.

589
00:27:55,560 --> 00:27:57,679
Speaker 2: It's like, yeah, these first seven games count for this,

590
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Speaker 2: but then the next ten games don't. It's like, just

591
00:28:00,400 --> 00:28:01,920
Speaker 2: don't call him its he's a tournament. If it's not

592
00:28:01,960 --> 00:28:03,600
Speaker 2: a tournament, don't call it the All Star Game if

593
00:28:03,640 --> 00:28:05,320
Speaker 2: it's not a game. Okay, anyway, I'll shut up to

594
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Speaker 2: segarment taking.

595
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Speaker 6: Your You have to be so smart, you have to

596
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Speaker 6: actually place a pencil behind your ear. You have to

597
00:28:10,880 --> 00:28:11,880
Speaker 6: look that smart.

598
00:28:12,520 --> 00:28:15,760
Speaker 2: They look smart. His teams don't always play. He did

599
00:28:15,800 --> 00:28:16,359
Speaker 2: look smart.

600
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Speaker 6: Some people hit their We talked about this last Sunday.

601
00:28:19,720 --> 00:28:22,760
Speaker 6: Some people hit their sweet spot. As coordinators, they get

602
00:28:22,760 --> 00:28:26,639
Speaker 6: a bad reputation. Absolutely, they get a bad reputation. Is

603
00:28:27,280 --> 00:28:29,840
Speaker 6: Big Fangio, for example, comes to mind after last week.

604
00:28:30,840 --> 00:28:33,240
Speaker 6: Another one wasn't a good head coach, but North Turner

605
00:28:33,359 --> 00:28:36,520
Speaker 6: was a fantastic coordinator for many, many years in this league.

606
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Speaker 3: Ernie's MPI tried to make him a head coach, and

607
00:28:39,720 --> 00:28:42,240
Speaker 3: it never stopped trying to make fetch a thing.

608
00:28:42,400 --> 00:28:45,760
Speaker 6: It's just the laziness is Some hosts will say, oh,

609
00:28:45,800 --> 00:28:48,040
Speaker 6: I remember that guy was a bad head coach, therefore

610
00:28:48,080 --> 00:28:51,680
Speaker 6: he's a bad football coach. Okay, please, Honestly.

611
00:28:51,320 --> 00:28:53,280
Speaker 2: The way they do you got their job as a

612
00:28:53,280 --> 00:28:55,680
Speaker 2: head coach was by being a very good coordinator most likely.

613
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Speaker 6: Yeah, and some, such as last weekend, have gone back

614
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Speaker 6: to their coordinator jobs and been fantastic. We've got one

615
00:29:02,880 --> 00:29:05,200
Speaker 6: late game to report on in college hoops, about twelve

616
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Speaker 6: minutes to go. Utah at home is leading seventeenth rank

617
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Speaker 6: Kansas fifty six forty seven. If the Jayhawks lose this,

618
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Speaker 6: they will be eight and six in conference. Fifteenth rank

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Speaker 6: Kentucky is six and six in conference after losing at

620
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Speaker 6: Texas tonight eighty two seventy eight. Houston one at Arizona,

621
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Speaker 6: Wisconsin upset number seven Perdue, fifth ranked Tennessee came back

622
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Speaker 6: to beat Vanderbilt and the matchup today. Number one Auburn

623
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Speaker 6: wins at number two ranked Alabama ninety four eighty five.

624
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Speaker 6: Three weeks left in college hoops regular season, Auburn hosts

625
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Speaker 6: Alabama to end the season. Patrick Rodgers leads by one

626
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Speaker 6: stroke at the PGA event in San Diego. There is

627
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Speaker 6: live golf going on right now on Fox TV because

628
00:29:48,600 --> 00:29:53,680
Speaker 6: its final round coverage from Adelaide, Australia, and currently it's

629
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Speaker 6: John Rahm in fourth place, currently four back of the leader.

630
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Speaker 6: Abraham Answer or Minder. For the Fox TV coverage of

631
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Speaker 6: the Daytona five hundred tomorrow, they're coming out on the

632
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Speaker 6: air an hour early due to the bad weather forecast.

633
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Speaker 6: The race due to began two pm Eastern time on

634
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Speaker 6: Fox TV.

635
00:30:10,520 --> 00:30:12,680
Speaker 2: Back to you, Thank you very much, Steve de Seger.

636
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Speaker 2: By the way, I appreciate you not mentioning that Yukon

637
00:30:15,160 --> 00:30:16,720
Speaker 2: lost to last place sat In Hall today. I mean

638
00:30:16,760 --> 00:30:18,160
Speaker 2: they're on ranks, so it doesn't really matter.

639
00:30:18,200 --> 00:30:20,360
Speaker 6: What's an FS one game today right as an F

640
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Speaker 6: one game.

641
00:30:20,920 --> 00:30:24,360
Speaker 2: Also, fun fact, I'm Kansas play They're on the Utah

642
00:30:24,720 --> 00:30:26,560
Speaker 2: road trip in the new Big twelve. They play at

643
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Speaker 2: BYU on Tuesday. I'm actually gonna fly out and go

644
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Speaker 2: to that game. I have a buddy really who coaches

645
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Speaker 2: at b YU. I've never really been into Utah, so

646
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Speaker 2: I was like, I booked it, you know, four or

647
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Speaker 2: five months ago when I thought Kansas would be good.

648
00:30:37,000 --> 00:30:39,720
Speaker 2: I thought BYU might be a little bit better. But yeah,

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Speaker 2: so we'll see.

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Speaker 6: So I might both be unranked by that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, who knows. But tell you what. Fox Sports Radio,

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Speaker 2: thank you to Sager Aratorus. Jason Martin will come back.

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Speaker 2: What do we do? I'm going to tell you the

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Speaker 2: one quarterback that is indisputably better than Patrick Mahomes and

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Speaker 2: we need to stop even trying to compare him to him.

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Speaker 2: And now I'm not talking about Easton Stick. We'll discuss

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Speaker 2: that next Fox Sports Aret you. Welcome back, everybody. Fox

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Speaker 2: Sports Radio er Tords Jason Martin broadcasting live from thetirerack

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Speaker 2: dot Com studios, we are putting a bow on last

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Speaker 2: Sunday Super Bowl Sunday.

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Speaker 3: Again.

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Speaker 2: We know where a few days removed, but there is

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Speaker 2: just so much conversation to be had that we're kind

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Speaker 2: of sharing our final thoughts as we head into the

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Speaker 2: off season, as the NBA ramps up, college hoops, etcetera.

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Speaker 2: So I said before the break, think that last Sunday

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Speaker 2: proved that Patrick Mahomes there's quarterback that's definitely better than him,

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Speaker 2: and it's time to stop comparing one to the other quarterbacks.

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Speaker 2: Not Josh Allen. It's not Lamar Jackson, it's not Jalen Hurts.

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Speaker 2: Even the quarterback is Tom Brady. And it's funny Jmart

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Speaker 2: because I remember in last week's show, I really kind

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Speaker 2: of sort of had no interest in doing like a

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Speaker 2: Mahomes versus Brady conversation because I thought it was so stupid.

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Speaker 2: He's twenty nine years old, he being Mahomes, you know,

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Speaker 2: I thought it was so stupid. Like I understand the

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Speaker 2: concept of the trajectory that he was or is on

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Speaker 2: relative to where Brady was at twenty nine thirty years old,

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Speaker 2: but I also just felt like it's ridiculous to like

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Speaker 2: start making these comparisons now. And I bring it up

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Speaker 2: because after that game, I think we seriously have to

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Speaker 2: couch Brady versus Mahomes, and I think the reasons why

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Speaker 2: pretty obvious won Mahomes. And this is not a knock,

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Speaker 2: it's just a reality. But it's already his second loss

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Speaker 2: in a super Bowl. You know, Brady went seven to

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Speaker 2: three overall in super Bowls, so you know he's already

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Speaker 2: creeping up in the lost column. Two second game, second

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Speaker 2: super Bowl, he got absolutely blown out. And to your point,

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Speaker 2: it's not like he's been great in all four quarters

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Speaker 2: of any game that he's had. And by the way,

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Speaker 2: to be clear, for anyone listening in Kansas City or

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Speaker 2: in Missouri who was a Chiefs fan, this is not

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Speaker 2: say that I hate Mahomes. It's not say these terribles. No,

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Speaker 2: it's just to say that when you're literally trying to

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Speaker 2: put him on the same pedestal as the greatest of

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Speaker 2: all time, there is essentially no margin for error. And

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Speaker 2: I just think we now have two total super Bowl duds.

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Speaker 2: There's been long stretches even in his wins, where he

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Speaker 2: hasn't played well, and it's okay to say that Patrick

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Speaker 2: Mahomes owns this era and owns his contemporaries, but when

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Speaker 2: you're talking about the best to ever do it, I

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Speaker 2: always thought the conversation was premature, and I think it

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Speaker 2: looks even worse now.

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Speaker 3: So I agree, And I think the point that I

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Speaker 3: would make you did make, which is Brady never got

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Speaker 3: blown out even when he lost. It took that Tyree

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Speaker 3: catch and the craziness of that last drive from Eli

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Speaker 3: Manning and the Giants to beat him, and then it

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Speaker 3: took basically magic for that Eagles team with Nick Foles

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Speaker 3: to beat him in a Super Bowl. Mahomes got housed

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Speaker 3: by Tampa Bay, and he got housed here. Now, the

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Speaker 3: defenses versus his offensive lines in both those games were

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Speaker 3: not very good, but generally I would even go further

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Speaker 3: as a matter of fact that I love Patrick Mahomes,

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Speaker 3: I really do. And this isn't about his talent being

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Speaker 3: better or worse than Brady or whatever, like, just in

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Speaker 3: terms of like what he can do with a football.

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna take Mahomes in that fight, but I'm gonna

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Speaker 3: take Aaron Rodgers over Tom Brady in what he can

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Speaker 3: do with a football too. Just as an example. That

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Speaker 3: doesn't necessarily mean he's the best quarterback of all time,

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Speaker 3: because it comes down to winning and what you've been

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Speaker 3: able to do and a lot of those kind of factors.

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Speaker 3: But I'm not so sure I'm gonna put him over Montana.

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Speaker 3: And the reason why is because I never saw Montana

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Speaker 3: get blown out either, like to beat like all right,

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Speaker 3: so I'm a Denver Broncos fan. I watched Elway get

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Speaker 3: blown out three times.

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Speaker 7: Now.

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Speaker 3: Those teams had no business being into Super Bowl, and

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Speaker 3: he carried them there. That isn't really the case with Mahomes.

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Speaker 3: Mahomes always had talent around him. He always had Spignola Defensively,

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Speaker 3: he has had Chris Jones throughout this, He's had Andy

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Speaker 3: Reid throughout this. All of that, those Broncos teams with

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Speaker 3: Dan Reeves, those defenses, he had Sammy Winders is running back.

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Speaker 3: I mean, I like those wide receivers. But when you

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Speaker 3: look at who they were playing against, those Phil Simms

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Speaker 3: Giants teams, that incredible Redskins team that Doug Williams quarterbacked,

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Speaker 3: and of course Joe Montana and that forty nine Ers team,

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Speaker 3: it's a little bit different. But I understand Montana had talent,

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Speaker 3: but Montana never got drilled like that. Brady never got

741
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Speaker 3: drilled like that. I'm with you. I don't think that

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Speaker 3: you can get there. I think, and I also think

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Speaker 3: that let's let the guy finish his career before we

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Speaker 3: start talking about who the greatest player of all time is. Like,

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Speaker 3: you can be eliminated before your career is over, but

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Speaker 3: we can't make that case for you, especially when you've

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Speaker 3: done it in a short window, like you know, Brady

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Speaker 3: did this over a long period of time. He won

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Speaker 3: super Bowls in multiple locations. There's just it's just different.

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Speaker 3: It's just different to I'm Brady is the greatest winner

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Speaker 3: we've ever seen in the NFL, bar none at the

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Speaker 3: quarterback position, greatest leader, motivated, all those kinds of things.

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Speaker 3: That's no slight on Mahomes, but I agree with you.

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Speaker 3: I think it's time to back off and stop this.

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Speaker 3: It doesn't mean that Patrick Mahomes is not otherworldly and

756
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Speaker 3: just as special as we thought he was. We just

757
00:36:23,360 --> 00:36:25,840
Speaker 3: can't put him in the same classification with Tom Brady.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and I just you know, listen, I understand that

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Speaker 2: this is the media space. You know, it's there are

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Speaker 2: times where people in our business do stuff, and I

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Speaker 2: understand why, even if it isn't my thing. And listen,

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Speaker 2: I think a Brady versus Mahomes conversation, like we all

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Speaker 2: know Lebron versus MJ. It's easy for everybody that's at

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Speaker 2: work or listening to us in a car or whatever

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Speaker 2: right now. It's an easy thing to wrap your head around. Okay,

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Speaker 2: I just think it's so stupid to do it in

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Speaker 2: the middle of a guy's career. And I mean, you know,

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Speaker 2: Mahomes is really really good, excellent, all time great. If

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Speaker 2: you were retired today, he'd be in the Hall of Fame. Okay,

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Speaker 2: we get all that, but like to start having this

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Speaker 2: conversation at twenty nine years old, it's like, think about

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Speaker 2: everything that can happen. First of all, I think we

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Speaker 2: even talked about this last week, Andy Reid. I mean,

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Speaker 2: how many more years does he have left? And it's like, listen,

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Speaker 2: we can all love mahomeslaw also acknowledging that he's playing

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Speaker 2: for one of the greatest offensive minds that we've ever seen.

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Speaker 2: And there's no guarantee that the next guy is anywhere

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Speaker 2: near as good. You know, God forbid, there could be

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Speaker 2: injuries he could just get tired and retire, you know,

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Speaker 2: early in his career, like Michael Jordan did. Now Michael

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00:37:34,200 --> 00:37:36,040
Speaker 2: Jordan came back, but you get the point. Guys have

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Speaker 2: retired before, you know, before we expect them to. And

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Speaker 2: so I just I always think these conversations are really

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Speaker 2: really really dumb, and I hate that we do them.

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Speaker 2: But I get that we do them. But it's just

786
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Speaker 2: like watching that game, it was just like, man like

787
00:37:52,320 --> 00:37:55,440
Speaker 2: that was so that was like such an unnecessary rush

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Speaker 2: to the finished point. Listen, I'll even take a step

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Speaker 2: to say this. If he had won that game and

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Speaker 2: we're talking about a fourth super Bowl by twenty nine,

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Speaker 2: then yeah, I get it, but let's get to the

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Speaker 2: finish line of number four before, you know, because I mean,

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Speaker 2: even if he won four to surpass Brady, he'd have

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Speaker 2: to win four more and that's crazy to think about it.

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Speaker 2: And so I don't know, I don't want to sound

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Speaker 2: like old guy, get off my lawn because that, you know,

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Speaker 2: because people are doing compelling sports talk radio. But I

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Speaker 2: just I always found the topic so uninteresting and I

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Speaker 2: think I think it's officially dead for the very foreseeable future,

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Speaker 2: with not only a second loss but a second blow

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Speaker 2: out loss.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, And so I also would would add this to

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Speaker 3: that quickly, and that is I don't think the Chiefs

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Speaker 3: are getting better.

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Speaker 2: I think great call.

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Speaker 3: I think the Chiefs hit their max that we've seen

807
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Speaker 3: and it shows just how good that max was that

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Speaker 3: it got them to another Super Bowl. But if you

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Speaker 3: look at the AFC, the Bills are getting better, the

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Speaker 3: Ravens continue improving, the Chargers are coming, the Broncos are coming,

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Speaker 3: the Texans are there. The Bengals had an off year,

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Speaker 3: but they're gonna be back. Like you look at the

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Speaker 3: rest of the conference, I think the conference are taking

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Speaker 3: steps to try and dethrone Kansas City. I don't think

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Speaker 3: Kansas City is lapping the field at all. I think

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Speaker 3: that they are all getting a little bit closer. And

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Speaker 3: we saw the NFC finally get them, and they're gonna

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Speaker 3: actually have to make some moves to get better or

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Speaker 3: they're not gonna get back to on those Super Bowl.

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Speaker 2: It is interesting, and you know, it goes back to

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Speaker 2: what we said even after the Buffalo game of just like,

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Speaker 2: man like, this isn't the four or five years ago team.

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Speaker 2: This team was there for the taking. Whether it was

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Speaker 2: Buffalo Baltimore, whoever couldn't take advantage the Eagles did. Fox

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Speaker 2: last couple weeks. Well I've referenced it a few times

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Speaker 3: Well.

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Speaker 2: I bring it up because it was stunning, and I

862
00:41:34,600 --> 00:41:37,000
Speaker 2: think last week J Mart we talked a little bit

863
00:41:37,360 --> 00:41:42,480
Speaker 2: about just basically, you know, just basically how shocking it was.

864
00:41:42,640 --> 00:41:44,560
Speaker 2: You know, we had a week to decompress, but then

865
00:41:44,600 --> 00:41:48,000
Speaker 2: also some of the conspiracy theories that were floating around,

866
00:41:48,040 --> 00:41:51,600
Speaker 2: and how basically if you wanted to believe that there

867
00:41:51,680 --> 00:41:57,200
Speaker 2: was some higher, bigger, you know whatever calling this shot,

868
00:41:57,719 --> 00:42:01,200
Speaker 2: then there was some evidence. Maybe that's well. Anyway, Adam

869
00:42:01,239 --> 00:42:04,680
Speaker 2: Silver on Saturday was asked about the Luka Doncicch trade,

870
00:42:05,080 --> 00:42:06,640
Speaker 2: and here is what he had to say.

871
00:42:06,760 --> 00:42:09,560
Speaker 5: I was surprised when I heard about the trade. I

872
00:42:09,600 --> 00:42:12,239
Speaker 5: did not know that there was Luca was potentially a

873
00:42:12,280 --> 00:42:14,439
Speaker 5: player that was about to be traded. That was news

874
00:42:14,440 --> 00:42:16,920
Speaker 5: to me. I followed it like a fan from that standpoint,

875
00:42:17,000 --> 00:42:20,400
Speaker 5: And I've said before that's the kind of confidential information

876
00:42:20,440 --> 00:42:23,680
Speaker 5: that's generally not shared with the league in advance unless

877
00:42:23,719 --> 00:42:26,360
Speaker 5: a team is publicly shopping a player, and best to

878
00:42:26,400 --> 00:42:28,400
Speaker 5: my knowledge, that's not what happened in the case of

879
00:42:28,480 --> 00:42:29,759
Speaker 5: Dallas and Los Angeles.

880
00:42:31,200 --> 00:42:34,760
Speaker 2: Very simple question, J Martin. Do you believe that Adam

881
00:42:34,800 --> 00:42:37,880
Speaker 2: Silver had no idea not only that this trade was

882
00:42:37,920 --> 00:42:40,960
Speaker 2: going to happen, but that then he just followed it

883
00:42:41,000 --> 00:42:42,640
Speaker 2: like a fan like the rest of us.

884
00:42:45,080 --> 00:42:50,080
Speaker 3: Maybe just because he's Adam Silver, David Stern would have

885
00:42:50,080 --> 00:42:50,640
Speaker 3: known about it.

886
00:42:50,680 --> 00:42:51,920
Speaker 2: I was gonna say he has his finger on the

887
00:42:51,920 --> 00:42:54,839
Speaker 2: pulse of nothing but continue good, right, And that's really

888
00:42:54,840 --> 00:42:55,319
Speaker 2: what it is.

889
00:42:55,440 --> 00:43:00,239
Speaker 3: Like, I don't think that Dallas conspiracy theory or not.

890
00:43:00,239 --> 00:43:01,719
Speaker 3: I don't think they would have felt like they needed

891
00:43:01,760 --> 00:43:04,400
Speaker 3: to include him because I don't know how many people

892
00:43:04,400 --> 00:43:07,960
Speaker 3: actually respect him in terms of an authority figure or

893
00:43:08,000 --> 00:43:11,120
Speaker 3: someone that commands respect in any way, shape or form.

894
00:43:11,239 --> 00:43:14,279
Speaker 3: Like I've been thinking the last few days, would David

895
00:43:14,320 --> 00:43:15,920
Speaker 3: Stern have found a way to undo this?

896
00:43:16,520 --> 00:43:17,600
Speaker 2: That was my next question.

897
00:43:17,960 --> 00:43:21,279
Speaker 3: You remember the Chris Paul situation and what had happened there, like,

898
00:43:22,440 --> 00:43:24,560
Speaker 3: and of course there were different circumstances because of the

899
00:43:24,640 --> 00:43:27,640
Speaker 3: league and the teams involved and all that kind of stuff.

900
00:43:27,680 --> 00:43:32,000
Speaker 3: But like, there's no there's no universe in which this

901
00:43:32,160 --> 00:43:36,040
Speaker 3: improved competitive balance in your NBA. There's no Ken jump

902
00:43:36,040 --> 00:43:37,560
Speaker 3: in on that real yeah, go right, he go right ahead.

903
00:43:37,760 --> 00:43:41,919
Speaker 2: It's not even that it didn't improve competitive balance. It's

904
00:43:42,000 --> 00:43:47,399
Speaker 2: that it basically disproved. It basically proved all of the

905
00:43:47,440 --> 00:43:50,400
Speaker 2: worst things that people believe, whether it's true or not,

906
00:43:50,920 --> 00:43:55,759
Speaker 2: that there's favoritism towards the big market that things are in.

907
00:43:56,160 --> 00:43:59,200
Speaker 2: Maybe favoritism is not even the big word, men, the

908
00:43:59,280 --> 00:44:02,480
Speaker 2: right word, that things are flat out rigged for the

909
00:44:02,520 --> 00:44:05,040
Speaker 2: big market. Now, again, this goes back to what we

910
00:44:05,080 --> 00:44:08,680
Speaker 2: talked about last week. Is it possible that the Mavericks

911
00:44:08,719 --> 00:44:11,360
Speaker 2: truly believed that they would get closer to a championship

912
00:44:11,400 --> 00:44:14,799
Speaker 2: a year after making the final the NBA Finals with

913
00:44:14,880 --> 00:44:17,880
Speaker 2: Luka Doncis Is there a world where they believe that

914
00:44:17,880 --> 00:44:21,720
Speaker 2: they would be better with Anthony Davis rather than Luka Doncics. Okay,

915
00:44:22,640 --> 00:44:25,960
Speaker 2: but what we also discussed was that if you want

916
00:44:25,960 --> 00:44:29,520
Speaker 2: to believe that there's some conspiracy theories, we get it

917
00:44:29,640 --> 00:44:31,920
Speaker 2: because and we were trying to figure this out in

918
00:44:32,000 --> 00:44:36,120
Speaker 2: real time. Is basically the idea that there was no

919
00:44:36,280 --> 00:44:39,400
Speaker 2: even as Adam Silver reference, there was no trade request,

920
00:44:39,480 --> 00:44:42,160
Speaker 2: there was no open market for one of the three

921
00:44:42,280 --> 00:44:45,440
Speaker 2: or four best players in the league. And so I

922
00:44:45,480 --> 00:44:48,480
Speaker 2: think that's that's the part that I think has to

923
00:44:48,520 --> 00:44:51,839
Speaker 2: be frustrating to twenty nine other fan bases, number one being,

924
00:44:51,880 --> 00:44:55,640
Speaker 2: of course, the Dallas Mavericks, is that it it's just

925
00:44:57,000 --> 00:45:03,080
Speaker 2: everything that you that the league fights, all the narratives

926
00:45:03,080 --> 00:45:05,560
Speaker 2: that the league fights to prove that aren't true, that

927
00:45:05,600 --> 00:45:07,880
Speaker 2: the Lakers have the advantages, that the big markets have,

928
00:45:07,920 --> 00:45:10,560
Speaker 2: the advantages, that things are not only tilted in their favor,

929
00:45:10,800 --> 00:45:13,880
Speaker 2: but that the league office is actively helping them. Whether

930
00:45:13,920 --> 00:45:17,360
Speaker 2: it's true or not, that trade did nothing to dispel

931
00:45:17,440 --> 00:45:19,440
Speaker 2: any of those notions or thoughts or opinions.

932
00:45:19,800 --> 00:45:23,000
Speaker 3: No, it didn't, And it just adds more fuel to

933
00:45:23,040 --> 00:45:28,000
Speaker 3: those fires. And it basically destroyed one of your fan

934
00:45:28,040 --> 00:45:30,400
Speaker 3: bases in one of your bigger markets. I mean, Dallas

935
00:45:30,440 --> 00:45:32,480
Speaker 3: is still one of the biggest markets in the country.

936
00:45:33,120 --> 00:45:38,120
Speaker 3: And I mean you've got protests, you've got signs, you've

937
00:45:38,160 --> 00:45:40,839
Speaker 3: got a lot of ugliness, you've got threats, you've got

938
00:45:40,880 --> 00:45:43,759
Speaker 3: all this other kind of stuff, like your league is

939
00:45:43,800 --> 00:45:47,640
Speaker 3: spinning out of control here, Adam Silver, and you're saying

940
00:45:47,719 --> 00:45:50,560
Speaker 3: I have empathy that later on in that same State

941
00:45:50,600 --> 00:45:53,680
Speaker 3: of the League address or whatever, he said, I am

942
00:45:53,760 --> 00:45:57,880
Speaker 3: empathetic to MAVs fans about this trade. Well thanks, brother,

943
00:45:58,080 --> 00:46:00,759
Speaker 3: Like that's very, very helpful if you're a MAVs fan

944
00:46:00,840 --> 00:46:03,160
Speaker 3: in this point in this moment, like that's I don't

945
00:46:03,200 --> 00:46:06,480
Speaker 3: even know. I don't even know what that's supposed to mean. Like,

946
00:46:06,760 --> 00:46:08,520
Speaker 3: oh man, I would feel terrible if I was a

947
00:46:08,520 --> 00:46:10,920
Speaker 3: MAVs fan. It's like, dude, you're the commissioner of the league.

948
00:46:11,600 --> 00:46:15,560
Speaker 3: You know something about This doesn't feel one hundred percent right,

949
00:46:15,680 --> 00:46:17,680
Speaker 3: and you know it's not better for your league. It's

950
00:46:17,719 --> 00:46:20,800
Speaker 3: not the Lakers are going to be the Lakers with

951
00:46:21,000 --> 00:46:25,880
Speaker 3: or without Luka Dancic, but the Mavericks are nothing without him, zero.

952
00:46:26,400 --> 00:46:28,560
Speaker 3: Like it's not that they're not going to play hard.

953
00:46:28,719 --> 00:46:30,319
Speaker 3: Kyrie is still going to play hard as long as

954
00:46:30,360 --> 00:46:32,920
Speaker 3: he's there. I get it. Anthony Davis getting hurt is

955
00:46:33,000 --> 00:46:37,719
Speaker 3: just exactly that's the worst possible scenario because somehow he

956
00:46:37,760 --> 00:46:40,920
Speaker 3: had been healthy for a decent amount of time recently

957
00:46:40,960 --> 00:46:44,480
Speaker 3: with LA. But this is exactly the Anthony Davis. This

958
00:46:44,520 --> 00:46:46,520
Speaker 3: is the saga. This is the story that we've seen

959
00:46:46,560 --> 00:46:48,439
Speaker 3: many times in the past where he hasn't been able

960
00:46:48,480 --> 00:46:51,640
Speaker 3: to stay healthy. You got all of this happening, and

961
00:46:51,680 --> 00:46:54,200
Speaker 3: then there's just a lot of smoke behind this. And

962
00:46:54,239 --> 00:46:57,759
Speaker 3: I do think the idea that Luka Doncic was not

963
00:46:58,000 --> 00:47:00,960
Speaker 3: on the market was not shopped to other teams. They

964
00:47:01,000 --> 00:47:03,880
Speaker 3: didn't take other offers, they didn't talk to other markets.

965
00:47:04,200 --> 00:47:06,040
Speaker 3: There's got to be a lot of owners, a lot

966
00:47:06,040 --> 00:47:07,919
Speaker 3: of gms in a leader just like man I would

967
00:47:07,960 --> 00:47:09,920
Speaker 3: have given this, this, this, this, this and this, and

968
00:47:09,960 --> 00:47:12,600
Speaker 3: they would have been much better deals than what the

969
00:47:12,680 --> 00:47:15,319
Speaker 3: Lakers offered, But the Lakers just end up getting the

970
00:47:15,320 --> 00:47:19,600
Speaker 3: guy for nothing compared to what guys that are not

971
00:47:19,800 --> 00:47:23,520
Speaker 3: half his marketability, half his value, half his talent have

972
00:47:23,640 --> 00:47:26,560
Speaker 3: gotten in trades over the past few years. Like this

973
00:47:26,719 --> 00:47:29,319
Speaker 3: was a heist by the Lakers. I don't think there's

974
00:47:29,400 --> 00:47:32,480
Speaker 3: any doubt about that. And the Mavericks fans just have

975
00:47:32,560 --> 00:47:35,520
Speaker 3: to sit there and wonder, you know, how do I

976
00:47:35,560 --> 00:47:39,120
Speaker 3: support this team like they killed that market like it's

977
00:47:39,200 --> 00:47:42,759
Speaker 3: it is astonishing to me, and we're now a couple

978
00:47:42,800 --> 00:47:45,479
Speaker 3: of weeks clear of it, and it makes even less

979
00:47:45,480 --> 00:47:47,480
Speaker 3: sense to me now than it did then, and it

980
00:47:47,520 --> 00:47:48,680
Speaker 3: made zero sense to me.

981
00:47:48,760 --> 00:47:52,200
Speaker 2: Then That's exactly what I go back to, is, you know,

982
00:47:52,600 --> 00:47:58,960
Speaker 2: I think it's a two pronged thing of I don't

983
00:47:59,200 --> 00:48:03,759
Speaker 2: like it's hard for me to explain, but basically it's

984
00:48:03,840 --> 00:48:08,520
Speaker 2: like I find it so hard to believe that, Like,

985
00:48:08,600 --> 00:48:11,200
Speaker 2: put aside, does this make your team better? Does it not?

986
00:48:11,840 --> 00:48:15,840
Speaker 2: The idea of trading a homegrown superstar that you drafted

987
00:48:15,840 --> 00:48:18,200
Speaker 2: that's now in a year, six, year, seven, whatever, just

988
00:48:18,239 --> 00:48:22,239
Speaker 2: took you to the NBA Finals in a year where

989
00:48:22,239 --> 00:48:24,799
Speaker 2: he probably hasn't even entered his prime yet. And so

990
00:48:24,840 --> 00:48:28,759
Speaker 2: I look at it as basically like, how did you

991
00:48:28,840 --> 00:48:31,160
Speaker 2: not know the reaction was going to? And this is

992
00:48:31,160 --> 00:48:32,320
Speaker 2: part of why I think it's kind of like a

993
00:48:32,360 --> 00:48:35,120
Speaker 2: conspiracy theory, is like, so you mean to tell me

994
00:48:35,160 --> 00:48:37,439
Speaker 2: that you made this trading good faith and you had

995
00:48:37,480 --> 00:48:40,040
Speaker 2: no thought process at all that your fans would revolt.

996
00:48:40,640 --> 00:48:42,399
Speaker 2: And so there's that part of it. But then maybe

997
00:48:42,400 --> 00:48:44,399
Speaker 2: the counter to that is the reason that they did

998
00:48:44,440 --> 00:48:47,680
Speaker 2: not open up a true trade market to try and

999
00:48:47,680 --> 00:48:49,840
Speaker 2: find the best possible value was because they knew that

1000
00:48:49,880 --> 00:48:52,719
Speaker 2: the fans would revolting. The trade couldn't happen. Really quick,

1001
00:48:52,800 --> 00:48:54,839
Speaker 2: let me ask you this because you mentioned it and

1002
00:48:54,840 --> 00:48:56,919
Speaker 2: it's something I had kind of been thinking about after

1003
00:48:56,920 --> 00:48:59,879
Speaker 2: hearing this quote. Do you think that David Stern would

1004
00:48:59,880 --> 00:49:01,799
Speaker 2: have found a way to step in? Because really quick?

1005
00:49:01,800 --> 00:49:03,960
Speaker 2: I always think this is an important side note that

1006
00:49:03,960 --> 00:49:06,759
Speaker 2: gets lost because people reference to Chris Paul trade all

1007
00:49:06,760 --> 00:49:09,080
Speaker 2: the time. Chris Paul would have become a Los Angeles Laker.

1008
00:49:09,160 --> 00:49:11,879
Speaker 2: David Stern nixed it. The other thing I would say

1009
00:49:11,880 --> 00:49:14,120
Speaker 2: about that, it is worth noting at that time, the

1010
00:49:14,719 --> 00:49:18,000
Speaker 2: New Orleans whatever they were Pelicans at the time, were

1011
00:49:18,000 --> 00:49:21,200
Speaker 2: between ownership groups and the league was actually running them,

1012
00:49:21,239 --> 00:49:24,120
Speaker 2: and so David Stern was like, yeah, I am stepping

1013
00:49:24,160 --> 00:49:27,319
Speaker 2: in because this makes it look like the league is

1014
00:49:27,400 --> 00:49:29,719
Speaker 2: trying to help get Chris Paul to the Lakers to

1015
00:49:29,760 --> 00:49:32,600
Speaker 2: be a super team. So I give David Stern credit

1016
00:49:32,640 --> 00:49:35,120
Speaker 2: for doing that, but I don't think that that perception

1017
00:49:35,320 --> 00:49:38,239
Speaker 2: is really changed at all. However, many fifteen years later

1018
00:49:38,239 --> 00:49:40,160
Speaker 2: after the Chris Paul trade, because it does look do

1019
00:49:40,239 --> 00:49:41,960
Speaker 2: you think David Stern would have stepped in and just

1020
00:49:41,960 --> 00:49:45,279
Speaker 2: been like, this doesn't make sense, this looks bad for

1021
00:49:45,320 --> 00:49:47,360
Speaker 2: the league. I cannot allow this to have.

1022
00:49:48,840 --> 00:49:54,400
Speaker 3: Call me naive to the inner workings of leagues versus

1023
00:49:54,520 --> 00:49:58,200
Speaker 3: teams and all that. I do not believe that this

1024
00:49:58,320 --> 00:50:01,360
Speaker 3: trade goes down without Stern knowing about it in advance

1025
00:50:01,440 --> 00:50:05,600
Speaker 3: and weighing in. I think that's the difference. I think

1026
00:50:05,640 --> 00:50:09,120
Speaker 3: that he gets notified in advance. Maybe Silver did and

1027
00:50:09,120 --> 00:50:10,920
Speaker 3: he's lying, but I don't think so. I think it's

1028
00:50:11,000 --> 00:50:13,400
Speaker 3: very possible he didn't know. I don't think there's a

1029
00:50:13,480 --> 00:50:15,919
Speaker 3: universe in which David Stern wouldn't have known this. That's

1030
00:50:15,960 --> 00:50:17,680
Speaker 3: just me just based on the way in which he

1031
00:50:17,760 --> 00:50:19,840
Speaker 3: ran the league, and it was a different league and

1032
00:50:19,840 --> 00:50:22,480
Speaker 3: it was a different time, and there's been you know,

1033
00:50:22,640 --> 00:50:25,040
Speaker 3: the power structure has changed in terms of who has

1034
00:50:26,040 --> 00:50:28,040
Speaker 3: a leverage in a lot of these scenarios. So maybe

1035
00:50:28,080 --> 00:50:30,960
Speaker 3: he wouldn't have known. Maybe again, maybe I am speaking

1036
00:50:31,000 --> 00:50:33,319
Speaker 3: out of turn and I'm wrong, but I think that

1037
00:50:33,400 --> 00:50:36,200
Speaker 3: David Stern would have had the opportunity before anybody ever

1038
00:50:36,239 --> 00:50:39,800
Speaker 3: found out about this to stop it. That's the difference

1039
00:50:39,840 --> 00:50:42,600
Speaker 3: because I just think there was there was a different

1040
00:50:44,000 --> 00:50:48,440
Speaker 3: opinion of the League office and its power. I just

1041
00:50:48,440 --> 00:50:51,319
Speaker 3: don't think this would have happened around him and he

1042
00:50:51,360 --> 00:50:52,520
Speaker 3: would have found out on.

1043
00:50:53,200 --> 00:50:56,040
Speaker 2: X or something like that. I would have followed it

1044
00:50:56,120 --> 00:50:58,280
Speaker 2: like a fan. No, you would not have David Sturn.

1045
00:50:58,120 --> 00:51:01,560
Speaker 3: Yet, right, That's really it. I mean, I just I

1046
00:51:01,560 --> 00:51:03,600
Speaker 3: don't think that this trade would have just gone through

1047
00:51:03,680 --> 00:51:06,160
Speaker 3: without him knowing about it in advance and at least

1048
00:51:06,160 --> 00:51:08,520
Speaker 3: saying okay if that's what they want to do. Because

1049
00:51:09,840 --> 00:51:12,359
Speaker 3: I feel like if you go to David Stern in

1050
00:51:12,360 --> 00:51:16,760
Speaker 3: this the David Stern that we all saw throughout his time,

1051
00:51:17,320 --> 00:51:19,040
Speaker 3: I feel like you go to him and you say this,

1052
00:51:19,800 --> 00:51:21,839
Speaker 3: he can actually start to think about it and he's

1053
00:51:21,840 --> 00:51:23,319
Speaker 3: just like, well, why would you do this? And not

1054
00:51:23,719 --> 00:51:27,399
Speaker 3: like there's so many little things about this that make

1055
00:51:27,480 --> 00:51:32,120
Speaker 3: it ripe to seem like it is not authentic, not genuine,

1056
00:51:32,520 --> 00:51:35,200
Speaker 3: and that there's something underhand and going on, and that

1057
00:51:35,239 --> 00:51:37,759
Speaker 3: gets to the integrity of your league. And if you're

1058
00:51:37,800 --> 00:51:41,800
Speaker 3: David Sterning that point, perception is everything. It's just everything.

1059
00:51:42,400 --> 00:51:47,160
Speaker 3: And the optics of this are absolutely atrocious for a

1060
00:51:47,280 --> 00:51:50,280
Speaker 3: league where the optics haven't been good for a couple

1061
00:51:50,280 --> 00:51:52,920
Speaker 3: of years now and don't seem to be getting better

1062
00:51:53,320 --> 00:51:56,839
Speaker 3: based on the weekend of All Star festivities that we've

1063
00:51:56,840 --> 00:51:57,480
Speaker 3: been treated to.

1064
00:51:58,080 --> 00:52:00,239
Speaker 2: Well, I'll tell you what, why only come back talk

1065
00:52:00,239 --> 00:52:03,880
Speaker 2: about All Star Weekend because to me, the biggest story

1066
00:52:04,080 --> 00:52:06,640
Speaker 2: is who is not at All Star Weekend and what

1067
00:52:06,719 --> 00:52:10,160
Speaker 2: it says about where we are at with All Star Weekend.

1068
00:52:10,239 --> 00:52:12,760
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1069
00:52:13,400 --> 00:52:16,279
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1070
00:52:16,320 --> 00:52:19,680
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1071
00:52:19,840 --> 00:52:23,920
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1072
00:52:24,040 --> 00:52:24,680
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1073
00:52:25,680 --> 00:52:30,040
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Speaker 2: We are broadcasting live fromthtire Rack dot com studios. Jmart

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Speaker 2: it is All Star Weekend. As you may have heard,

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Speaker 2: another thing that Adam Silver has killed but that's another

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Speaker 2: conversation for another day. I think it's worth noting. I

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Speaker 2: think this is kind of interesting.

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Speaker 3: To me.

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Speaker 2: The most interesting, maybe the best proof yet that we

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Speaker 2: have of how dead All Star Weekend is is not

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Speaker 2: about the person, not about all the players and people

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Speaker 2: that are there, but instead about one big name that

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Speaker 2: is not there, and it is Caitlin Clark. Now, during

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Speaker 2: football season, we mostly focus on football, but I bring

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Speaker 2: it up because what was about three four weeks ago

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Speaker 2: they were basically trying to get Caitlin Clark to participate

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Speaker 2: in All Star Weekend, you know, one of the skills

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Speaker 2: competitions whatever, And I only bring it up because she

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Speaker 2: politefully declined. Now I think, you know, she claims that

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Speaker 2: the reason that she declined was because she wanted to.

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Speaker 2: You know, if you remember last year that WNBA didn't

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Speaker 2: have a traditional All Star weekend because it was right

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Speaker 2: right around the time of the Olympics and whatever. And

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Speaker 2: so this year, the WNBA All Star Weekend is in Indianapolis.

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Speaker 2: And so basically Caitlyn Clark's logic and reasoning was basically that, hey,

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Speaker 2: you know, I want my first All Star Weekend to

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Speaker 2: be in Indie. I want to help support the league

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Speaker 2: that but uh, by the way to which I would say,

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Speaker 2: I'm stunned that all the girls that criticized her all

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Speaker 2: year for not doing more to elevate women's basketball didn't

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Speaker 2: come out and applaud her. They didn't. Shocking you are boy,

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Speaker 2: I'm not another conversation but another day.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, no, I think that conversation is about.

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Speaker 2: Well no, But here's my thing though, I think that

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Speaker 2: whoever are her handlers or whomever, I think they basically said, like, look,

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Speaker 2: you know, you got a good thing going, uh, you know,

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Speaker 2: and we could talk about maybe some of the stuff

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Speaker 2: that she maybe shouldn't have said over the course of

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Speaker 2: the offseason. But I think they really thought, hey, all

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Speaker 2: Star weekends turn into kind of a joke. It's it's

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Speaker 2: a disaster. You know. The guy who keeps winning the

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Speaker 2: Dunk contest isn't even an NBA player. The ratings are

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Speaker 2: going down every year. We now have this bizarre All

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Speaker 2: Star game that isn't a game, but it's a whatever.

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Speaker 2: And I think basically Caitlin Clark was like, I think

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Speaker 2: it's gonna hurt my brand to show up for All

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Speaker 2: Star Weekend and I think that tells you everything you

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Speaker 2: need to know about about why NBA all start weekend,

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Speaker 2: and on a broader level, the entire NBA is a

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Speaker 2: dying product.

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Speaker 3: Okay, So I don't know if that part is true,

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Speaker 3: not the last thing, but the hurting the brand portion.

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Speaker 3: I I feel like Caitlyn Clark, over the last I

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Speaker 3: don't know a handful of months, has made a concerted

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Speaker 3: effort to appease whoever the power brokers are in the WNBA.

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Speaker 3: Her colleagues are contemporaries, the coaches, all of these people,

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Speaker 3: the stuff she said in the interview when she was

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Speaker 3: a Sportsperson of the Year whatever it was, the ad

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Speaker 3: for the Super Bowl, like, all of these things are

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Speaker 3: different than the waters that Caitlin Clark kind of tended

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Speaker 3: to wait in a year ago. At this time, for example,

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Speaker 3: I think she is continuing to tread lightly and kind

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Speaker 3: of walk on eggshells around her own league. I don't

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Speaker 3: know whether or not she was coached to do this.

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Speaker 3: I don't know whether or not she was told to

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Speaker 3: do this. I don't know if this was just her

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Speaker 3: own calculation, But generally speaking, I just think she's I

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Speaker 3: think that she is gonna continually kind of bend the

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Speaker 3: knee to a league full of players that are never

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Speaker 3: going to accept her because she came in too popular,

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Speaker 3: because they didn't like it, and their goal is to

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Speaker 3: kill her value, to make it so that she's not

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Speaker 3: marketable anymore. It's a dumb idea. It's dumb. It's crazy

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Speaker 3: because they all benefit from it. But I think if

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Speaker 3: you give them truth serum, they just want to see

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Speaker 3: her value erased entirely. And so again, I don't know

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Speaker 3: if it came from inside WNBA or whatever else, but

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Speaker 3: her saying well, this is going to be big for

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Speaker 3: the WNBA for me to wait until they're all start weekend,

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Speaker 3: I just don't buy that. I don't. I don't think

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Speaker 3: that this has anything to do with her brand being

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Speaker 3: tainted by being part of the NBA. I mean, even

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Speaker 3: with the NBA in the shape it is, it's still

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Speaker 3: better than the WNBA. People are still going to watch

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Speaker 3: it there. But I think the perception is going to be, well,

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Speaker 3: how dare she she's not the best player in the WNBA,

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Speaker 3: Why she getting this invite? All of these other things

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Speaker 3: and she's the one player. And I think that at

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Speaker 3: this point she's so cognizant of it, and she's doing

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Speaker 3: her best to try to make it work so the

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Speaker 3: WNBA players will accept her and some of this stuff

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Speaker 3: can end and all of this, like even just the

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Speaker 3: nice stuff. It seems like everything she does now is

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Speaker 3: very calculated to make sure that she doesn't upset anybody

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Speaker 3: in the WNBA. That she's trying to do everything that

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Speaker 3: she can to be humble and all this other kind

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Speaker 3: of stuff, not recognizing what I think most of us

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Speaker 3: already know, which is she will never be able to

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Speaker 3: do enough. They don't like the fact that she's popular.

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Speaker 3: They didn't like the coverage that she got coming in

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Speaker 3: the door. They were jealous of it the entire time,

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Speaker 3: and they can't stand it. And so she's going to

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Speaker 3: continue to hurt herself. I think, now, does this make

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Speaker 3: her a bigger star by going to the All Star weekend?

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Speaker 3: Like probably not, let me actually ask you, But I

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Speaker 3: don't think it hurts her brand.

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Speaker 2: Well, maybe it hurts your brand, isn't right, But I

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Speaker 2: think maybe the last sentence that you just said is

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Speaker 2: actually maybe the point that I'm trying to make. Does

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Speaker 2: it do anything to elevate her brand? Like I was

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Speaker 2: thinking about this even before the show. I think you

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Speaker 2: could argue, and I'm not being facetious when I say this,

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Speaker 2: I think you can argue she is the third most

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Speaker 2: famous basketball player on the planet right now, behind only

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Speaker 2: Lebron and Steph. You could argue KD whatever. I think

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Speaker 2: more people know who Caitlyn Clark is than know who

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Speaker 2: Jason Tatum is. I think, you know, maybe Luca because

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Speaker 2: he's international. Like my wife doesn't know who Nikole Jokic is,

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Speaker 2: but she knows who Kaitlin Clark is, and so maybe

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Speaker 2: that's the point. And by the way, if you want

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Speaker 2: to argue she's not the third most she's but what

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Speaker 2: it doesn't matter.

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Speaker 3: I know, I understand the point you're making exactly the

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Speaker 3: we don't have to go into the weeds.

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Speaker 2: But I think that last point that you made is

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Speaker 2: kind of interesting. Does it do maybe that is the point.

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Speaker 2: Does it do anything to help her elevate her own brand?

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Speaker 2: Because I'm not sure that it does. And to me,

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Speaker 2: that's the thing is like, again, I don't that's probably

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Speaker 2: the right way to put it. I don't think it

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Speaker 2: hurts her brand. Maybe that maybe I misframed it myself.

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Speaker 2: I don't think it hurts her brand, But does it

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Speaker 2: do anything to help her brand? And if anything, all

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Speaker 2: you're doing is helping the NBA when it doesn't really

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Speaker 2: help you because you're Caitlyn freaking Clark, one of the

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Speaker 2: most famous basketball players on the planet.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, so I think that part is fair. I think that, No,

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Speaker 3: I don't. I don't really think it helps her brand,

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Speaker 3: just because she is so recognizable already, regardless of talent

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Speaker 3: or anything else. Your point is right, whether it's number

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Speaker 3: three or number five or whatever it is, whatever number

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Speaker 3: you want to put it in, she's certainly one of

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Speaker 3: the short list of most famous basketball players in the world.

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Speaker 3: I can completely, one hundred percent agree with that. I

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Speaker 3: don't think that it would hurt her brand to be there.

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Speaker 3: Maybe it would help her a little bit, but I

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Speaker 3: think the bigger issue is it would just upset the WNBA.

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Speaker 3: And I think that's the bigger concern, at least on

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Speaker 3: my side, is that I think Caitlin Clark is too

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Speaker 3: worried about what the WNBA thinks, and she's worried about

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Speaker 3: what those players think and how they're going to assume

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Speaker 3: all these things about her. They're gonna talk on hun

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Speaker 3: her back or they're going to foul her eight hundred

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Speaker 3: times and try to closeline her and take her out

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Speaker 3: and all this other kind of stuff, and she's desperately

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Speaker 3: trying to be accepted by them, not realizing at least

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Speaker 3: I don't think, or maybe maybe she does realize that

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Speaker 3: she's still trying good on her If that's the case,

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Speaker 3: I guess, but I don't think she has a chance

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Speaker 3: of ever being being accepted because they don't want her there.

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Speaker 3: They don't like how how much covered she gets. They

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Speaker 3: don't like the fact that you just said she might

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Speaker 3: be the third most recognizable or famous basketball player in

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Speaker 3: the world, and at least that argument can be made.

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Speaker 3: And I didn't really push back on it. I said,

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Speaker 3: I know exactly what you're saying, and generally speaking, you're right.

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Speaker 3: That's gonna drive them insane whether or not she goes

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Speaker 3: to All Star Weekend or not. But if she went,

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Speaker 3: we understand. We know because we saw what was said

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Speaker 3: last year and how it was talked about. The WNBA

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Speaker 3: players would have been furious behind the scenes because they

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Speaker 3: don't care about the success of their league as much

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Speaker 3: as they care about it being on their terms.

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Speaker 2: Tell you what, let's continue this conversation just a minute,

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Speaker 2: because I do have a follow up or two on that.

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Speaker 2: Caitlyn Clark not at All Star weekend and really what

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Speaker 2: you just said, what does it mean for perception of

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Speaker 2: her with other players. We'll discuss that next before we

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Speaker 2: do the let's toss it over the news desk second

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Speaker 2: time this evening, Steve de seger I.

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Speaker 6: Looked up the TV ratings from one year ago NBA

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Speaker 6: All Star Week and they had remember a year ago,

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Speaker 6: Sabrina Enescu and that three point challenge head to head

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Speaker 6: with Steph Curry. The league itself said that night's TV

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Speaker 6: audience peaked with that three point contest at ten pm

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Speaker 6: Eastern time, So for those fifteen minutes they got nearly

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Speaker 6: five and a half million viewers. That's the same average

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Speaker 6: as the actual All Star Game got the next night.

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Speaker 2: One, that's crazy, but two, it does kind of prove

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Speaker 2: my point, which is that it really she is gonna Basically,

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Speaker 2: the NBA is trying to use her yes to elevate

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Speaker 2: their brand, which is no disrespect. I agree with that, yeah,

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Speaker 2: no disrespect to women, But that's kind of pathetic.

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Speaker 6: And they'll probably say we have the right to do that.

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Speaker 6: Because we've been subsidizing this whole league. She came into

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Speaker 6: that was.

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Speaker 2: You know, I saw Rob Parker's take this week, and

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Speaker 2: that was what led the wheels to start turning this

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Speaker 2: morning when we're thinking about putting the show together.

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Speaker 6: So, but if you're an NBA exec, I'm sure you

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Speaker 6: have those wheels in your mind. Yeah, yeah, this is

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Speaker 6: our property. Wa NBA is owned by the NBA.

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Speaker 2: It is kind of crazy, low key, And that was

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Speaker 2: Rob's point. It's like, you've been subsidizing the NBA has

1276
01:03:06,520 --> 01:03:11,320
Speaker 2: been subsidizing your league for thirty years. You know, you

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Speaker 2: owe it to the NBA to show up, And I

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Speaker 2: think it's kind of funny. She's just like, yeah, I'm good.

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Speaker 2: I wasn't here for the last thirty years and had

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Speaker 2: nothing to do with me.

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Speaker 5: Well.

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Speaker 6: Tonight in San Francisco, Slam Dunk Contest winner for a

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Speaker 6: third straight year is Mac McClung from the G League.

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Speaker 6: Love this stat. So the last three seasons he's won

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Speaker 6: three titles. In this last three seasons, he's played three

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Speaker 6: whole games in the NBA three in the NBA in

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Speaker 6: the last three years. I also said that saw that

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Speaker 6: he has apparently earned more money from these three Slam

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Speaker 6: Dunk titles than he has from NBA basketball.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. No, I wondered that. I wondered how much he

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Speaker 3: had been paid in I actually thought about that times, Like,

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Speaker 3: how much do you get paid winning the Dunk contest

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Speaker 3: or being part of that?

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Speaker 6: It's over three hundred thousand apparently for the three years. Yeah.

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Speaker 6: Compare that to the two way contract and a little

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Speaker 6: bit from the NBA. Yeah, that probably wouldn't be much.

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Speaker 6: On the NBASI three point Contest winner Tyler Hero of

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Speaker 6: the Heat Skills Challenge went to the Calves. We do

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Speaker 6: have it upset in late night college basketball on the

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Speaker 6: men's side, Utah at home holds on to beat number

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Speaker 6: seventeen Kansas seventy four to sixty seven. Texas at home

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Speaker 6: beat number fifteen Kentucky eighty two seventy eight. Earlier, Mississippi

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Speaker 6: State won its top twenty five matchup at Ole, Miss

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Speaker 6: eighty one seventy one. Seventh rank Perdue was beaten at

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Speaker 6: home by number sixteen Wisconsin ninety four eighty four. Six

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Speaker 6: thranked Houston won at number thirteen Arizona sixty two to

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Speaker 6: fifty eight. Fifth ranked Tennessee at home was down sixteen

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Speaker 6: just before halftime, but still came back to beat Vanderbilt

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Speaker 6: eighty one seventy six. And yes, we did have a

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Speaker 6: number one at number two matchup today Alabama was hosting Auburn.

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Speaker 6: Auburn wins the game. Ninety four eighty five Hockey's Four

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Speaker 6: Nations face off in Montreal went to the US, although

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Speaker 6: it was down one nothing early, it won at Canada

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Speaker 6: by a three to one final. So in this round

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Speaker 6: robin format, the Americans at two to oh will be

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Speaker 6: in Thursday Night Championship. Amazingly, this ends a winning streak

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Speaker 6: for Sidney Crosby in a Canada jersey in tournament play.

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Speaker 6: He had won twenty six games in a row playing

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Speaker 6: for Canada going back well over a decade, including a

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Speaker 6: couple of Olympics, including a World Championship a World Cup

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Speaker 6: of Hockey, including the win in the opener of this tournament.

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Speaker 6: The US beat a Sidney Crosby Canada team tonight. Well,

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Speaker 6: we do have golf going on right now on Fox TV.

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Speaker 6: It's the final round of the live golf event from Adelaide, Australia,

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Speaker 6: and with just a whole or two to go, Joaqi

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Speaker 6: Neeman is tied for the lead. John Rahm is now

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Speaker 6: four back at the PGA event. Patrick Rodgers leads by

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Speaker 6: one stroke.

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Speaker 2: In San Diego.

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Speaker 6: Rory McElroy shot a third round seventy four, falling to

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Speaker 6: a tie for eighth place with Scottie Scheffler, who shot

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Speaker 6: seventy six. Tiger Woods is not playing in this week's

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Speaker 6: PGA event, which benefits his foundation. The PGA Tours in

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Speaker 6: Mexico next week. And a reminder, Sunday's Daytona five hundred

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Speaker 6: TV coverage will start an hour early due to the

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Speaker 6: bad weather in the forecast. Rain is due at Daytona

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01:06:07,840 --> 01:06:10,800
Speaker 6: right around the start of racetime apparently two pm Eastern

1338
01:06:10,800 --> 01:06:13,480
Speaker 6: time on Fox TV. It will be windy there tomorrow

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Speaker 6: as well. Chase Briscoe will start from the pole position.

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Speaker 2: Back to you, thank you very much, Steve Sager, Fox

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Speaker 2: Sports Radio, Fox Sports Sunday Era towards days Martin broadcasting

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Speaker 2: live from Thethtirerack dot Com studios for the break we

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Speaker 2: were talking it before we gets to Disaga, I should say,

1344
01:06:28,400 --> 01:06:29,560
Speaker 2: by the way, to say we will be back in

1345
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Speaker 2: just a moment with his extended update everything you missed

1346
01:06:32,280 --> 01:06:37,520
Speaker 2: throughout the day, so before we were talking All Star weekend,

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Speaker 2: Caitlyn Clark electing not to show up. I was just

1348
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Speaker 2: gonna ask big picture, Jmart, what do you expect this year?

1349
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Speaker 2: Like this coming WNBA season. Everything from the perspective of

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01:06:53,920 --> 01:06:56,640
Speaker 2: Kaitlyn Clark seems to be trying to make good with

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01:06:56,760 --> 01:07:01,160
Speaker 2: these young ladies who do not like her. But I

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01:07:01,200 --> 01:07:02,920
Speaker 2: also think that we've talked about this, and I think

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01:07:02,920 --> 01:07:04,919
Speaker 2: you might have just mentioned a minute ago. I think

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01:07:04,920 --> 01:07:08,560
Speaker 2: she's hurting her brand and her core audience by trying

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01:07:08,600 --> 01:07:10,880
Speaker 2: too hard to appease to people that don't like her,

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Speaker 2: and then you know, if you're burning the people that

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Speaker 2: like you, in theory, could impact the ratings.

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Speaker 3: Da DA.

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Speaker 2: I'm just curious that, like, what do we think we're

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Speaker 2: getting from year two of the Caitlin Clark era, Because

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Speaker 2: I'll be honest, I was a guy that kind of

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01:07:25,320 --> 01:07:27,760
Speaker 2: didn't know if it was going to translate after college,

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Speaker 2: and it obviously she became the biggest story in sports

1364
01:07:31,400 --> 01:07:35,240
Speaker 2: there for a stretch. I think WNBA looked bad. I

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01:07:35,240 --> 01:07:37,240
Speaker 2: don't think they had answers. I don't think they were

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Speaker 2: prepared for her arrival, and I'm just kind of curious

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Speaker 2: for your perspective on what year two looks like, because

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Speaker 2: you know, you would think after year one that it

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01:07:46,800 --> 01:07:50,000
Speaker 2: would only be kind of a shooting star and upward arrow.

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Speaker 2: But again, I do think that she has done some

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Speaker 2: stuff and set some stuff to kind of ostracize her

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Speaker 2: core audience and her core fan base this this offseason.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, so my gut tells me that it's not going

1374
01:08:01,720 --> 01:08:04,920
Speaker 3: to be what it was. It's not going to completely

1375
01:08:05,000 --> 01:08:08,120
Speaker 3: drop off a cliff. But I do think that Caitlyn

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01:08:08,200 --> 01:08:11,120
Speaker 3: Clark just kind of played basketball and lived her life

1377
01:08:12,160 --> 01:08:14,360
Speaker 3: and didn't get go didn't get caught up in all

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01:08:14,400 --> 01:08:18,120
Speaker 3: the noise. She let everybody else talk on all sides

1379
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Speaker 3: of it, and there were extremes on all sides that

1380
01:08:21,640 --> 01:08:24,840
Speaker 3: you know, did nobody any favors, right, But now she's

1381
01:08:24,880 --> 01:08:27,880
Speaker 3: decided that she wants to cater to a side that

1382
01:08:28,080 --> 01:08:31,800
Speaker 3: is definitely going to cost her when it comes to

1383
01:08:32,520 --> 01:08:34,760
Speaker 3: some of the people that have had gotten behind her

1384
01:08:34,800 --> 01:08:36,640
Speaker 3: because it was easy to root for her because she

1385
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Speaker 3: just played basketball. And now she has decided to wade

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01:08:40,760 --> 01:08:44,680
Speaker 3: into some of these other waters. So I don't think

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Speaker 3: that it's going to help the WNBA. I understand, I've

1388
01:08:47,080 --> 01:08:49,280
Speaker 3: read all the pieces. I'll look at the ticket sales. Now,

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01:08:50,200 --> 01:08:53,000
Speaker 3: I think the WNBA last year might have been the peak.

1390
01:08:53,920 --> 01:08:57,439
Speaker 3: Now we'll see. Maybe I'm wrong, but I don't think

1391
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Speaker 3: that the curiosity factor or the let's check in on

1392
01:09:00,040 --> 01:09:02,599
Speaker 3: Caitlin Clark every night factor is going to be the same.

1393
01:09:02,680 --> 01:09:04,519
Speaker 3: And I think a lot of that does come down

1394
01:09:04,600 --> 01:09:10,000
Speaker 3: to she's now become I don't know, she she's become

1395
01:09:10,040 --> 01:09:15,960
Speaker 3: more polarizing to multiple groups as opposed to polarizing to

1396
01:09:16,720 --> 01:09:21,320
Speaker 3: people within the WNBA and certain social circles or whatever

1397
01:09:21,439 --> 01:09:23,759
Speaker 3: like that. Like at one point, she was just playing

1398
01:09:23,800 --> 01:09:26,000
Speaker 3: basketball and so you either like that or you didn't

1399
01:09:26,080 --> 01:09:28,880
Speaker 3: like that. You got you thought she was overexposed or

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Speaker 3: whatever like that. You can do all that. But I

1401
01:09:31,120 --> 01:09:34,160
Speaker 3: think that now now it is harder to root for

1402
01:09:34,200 --> 01:09:36,479
Speaker 3: her for some people, some of them for good reasons,

1403
01:09:36,560 --> 01:09:38,599
Speaker 3: some of them for reasons that are, you know, less

1404
01:09:38,600 --> 01:09:41,320
Speaker 3: towards say the least. But I think that it's I

1405
01:09:41,320 --> 01:09:43,560
Speaker 3: think that the point is her brand is going to

1406
01:09:43,600 --> 01:09:46,559
Speaker 3: be hurt a little bit. Her marketability and her value

1407
01:09:46,800 --> 01:09:49,160
Speaker 3: are going to drop just a little bit because there's

1408
01:09:49,200 --> 01:09:53,080
Speaker 3: going to be a little less attention paid by half

1409
01:09:53,080 --> 01:09:55,519
Speaker 3: her audience or so. And so I think that that's

1410
01:09:55,560 --> 01:09:59,000
Speaker 3: a net negative for the WNBA because she was the

1411
01:09:59,040 --> 01:10:02,000
Speaker 3: shooting star. She was the thing that was causing all

1412
01:10:02,080 --> 01:10:05,280
Speaker 3: other ships to rise. With all due respect to the

1413
01:10:05,360 --> 01:10:09,240
Speaker 3: talented to other talented women in that league, she was

1414
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Speaker 3: the reason people were paying attention to it. And I

1415
01:10:12,200 --> 01:10:15,040
Speaker 3: don't think that you can grow based on how she

1416
01:10:15,160 --> 01:10:18,800
Speaker 3: has operated over the last six months. So I think

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01:10:18,840 --> 01:10:20,519
Speaker 3: it's going to take a step back and it's going

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Speaker 3: to be talked about less.

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Speaker 2: So I sort of agree. I just think, really quickly,

1420
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Speaker 2: is that one.

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Speaker 3: You know what?

1422
01:10:29,640 --> 01:10:32,479
Speaker 2: It almost reminds me of j mart Is And this

1423
01:10:32,560 --> 01:10:36,880
Speaker 2: is not a great comparison, but a sport that we

1424
01:10:36,920 --> 01:10:39,639
Speaker 2: make fun of quite a bit, spring football, right, because

1425
01:10:39,760 --> 01:10:41,960
Speaker 2: every time they start one of these new leagues, it's like, oh,

1426
01:10:42,080 --> 01:10:44,479
Speaker 2: ratings were this in week one, and then it's like

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Speaker 2: it goes down a little bit in week two, and

1428
01:10:46,840 --> 01:10:48,439
Speaker 2: then week three it goes down more, and then by

1429
01:10:48,479 --> 01:10:50,800
Speaker 2: like week four, nobody cares. They tune in for the

1430
01:10:52,680 --> 01:10:54,120
Speaker 2: just to kind of see what it's all about. And

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Speaker 2: I don't think, yeah, And it's not a totally fair

1432
01:10:57,040 --> 01:11:01,040
Speaker 2: analogy because obviously it was a season long phenomen which,

1433
01:11:01,080 --> 01:11:02,920
Speaker 2: by the way, it is worth noting the ratings I

1434
01:11:03,280 --> 01:11:04,720
Speaker 2: seem to remember. And I could be wrong in this,

1435
01:11:04,800 --> 01:11:07,600
Speaker 2: but I think they pretty much plummeted after she was

1436
01:11:07,640 --> 01:11:10,880
Speaker 2: eliminated from the playoffs. But I just bring it up

1437
01:11:10,960 --> 01:11:14,599
Speaker 2: because I think we're gonna get that little bounce back

1438
01:11:14,840 --> 01:11:17,439
Speaker 2: regression in the way that we get it with other leagues,

1439
01:11:17,560 --> 01:11:19,880
Speaker 2: because like you said, I think the phenomenon is a

1440
01:11:19,880 --> 01:11:24,120
Speaker 2: little bit gone. You know, I don't know. But then

1441
01:11:24,280 --> 01:11:28,040
Speaker 2: my counter to that is, you know, people start clotheslining

1442
01:11:28,120 --> 01:11:32,000
Speaker 2: her again, Dja Carrington starts poking her in the eye

1443
01:11:32,040 --> 01:11:34,360
Speaker 2: and then claiming it was totally accidental. How dare you

1444
01:11:34,360 --> 01:11:36,720
Speaker 2: even ask me? I do think people will be right back,

1445
01:11:36,760 --> 01:11:38,559
Speaker 2: So I guess this is one I don't know that

1446
01:11:38,600 --> 01:11:41,479
Speaker 2: I really have a strong opinion, because I do sort

1447
01:11:41,479 --> 01:11:44,080
Speaker 2: of lean with you, But I think it's only gonna

1448
01:11:44,080 --> 01:11:46,920
Speaker 2: take like that one incident, the first I poke the

1449
01:11:46,960 --> 01:11:50,880
Speaker 2: first Angel Reese, Oh, I was going for the ball.

1450
01:11:51,320 --> 01:11:54,680
Speaker 2: Why are certain people referee differently than I am? By

1451
01:11:54,720 --> 01:11:56,639
Speaker 2: the way, the fact that I remember all this tells

1452
01:11:56,680 --> 01:11:58,600
Speaker 2: you like how big it was in the moment, But

1453
01:11:58,640 --> 01:12:01,160
Speaker 2: I don't know. I guess I am curious to see

1454
01:12:01,160 --> 01:12:03,280
Speaker 2: how year two goes, and I will say there was

1455
01:12:03,280 --> 01:12:05,240
Speaker 2: like a two three week period where everybody was playing

1456
01:12:05,360 --> 01:12:07,200
Speaker 2: nice and it was kind of the most boring thing

1457
01:12:07,240 --> 01:12:10,160
Speaker 2: to talk about, But then everybody started getting rough again

1458
01:12:10,200 --> 01:12:12,639
Speaker 2: and it was a different deal. So anyway, any last

1459
01:12:12,640 --> 01:12:15,360
Speaker 2: thoughts on Caitlin Clark. I actually just came across something interesting.

1460
01:12:15,400 --> 01:12:17,839
Speaker 2: I want to discuss an hour three from All Star Weekend,

1461
01:12:18,320 --> 01:12:21,880
Speaker 2: but anything else on Caitlin Clark before we get back

1462
01:12:21,880 --> 01:12:22,559
Speaker 2: to the sacred I.

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Speaker 3: Would say, if they really did want to just finish

1464
01:12:25,080 --> 01:12:28,479
Speaker 3: her off, they would just stop doing any of the

1465
01:12:28,520 --> 01:12:31,840
Speaker 3: stuff that gets coverage, Like if they really wanted to

1466
01:12:31,920 --> 01:12:35,080
Speaker 3: kill her value completely, stop with the ipokes and all

1467
01:12:35,080 --> 01:12:37,200
Speaker 3: that kind of stuff, and just treat her like another player,

1468
01:12:37,600 --> 01:12:40,800
Speaker 3: because then there wouldn't be that other side. I do

1469
01:12:40,840 --> 01:12:43,080
Speaker 3: think that you're right. I think that's a fair point

1470
01:12:43,080 --> 01:12:46,640
Speaker 3: that you know, when the line is crossed or that

1471
01:12:46,680 --> 01:12:49,559
Speaker 3: becomes a question, at least that is going to break

1472
01:12:49,600 --> 01:12:51,439
Speaker 3: some coverage back and some people are going to tune

1473
01:12:51,479 --> 01:12:53,040
Speaker 3: back in. But I also think it's going to bring

1474
01:12:53,040 --> 01:12:55,040
Speaker 3: a chorus of see, this is why we told you.

1475
01:12:55,200 --> 01:12:58,639
Speaker 3: There's no reason to try and you know, become one

1476
01:12:58,680 --> 01:13:01,160
Speaker 3: of them, because they're not going to accept you like,

1477
01:13:01,200 --> 01:13:03,680
Speaker 3: there's just this is why we said be above it

1478
01:13:03,720 --> 01:13:07,120
Speaker 3: and just play basketball and just ignore it as best

1479
01:13:07,160 --> 01:13:10,479
Speaker 3: you can. That I think will become part of the refrain.

1480
01:13:10,560 --> 01:13:13,640
Speaker 3: On the other side, I don't know what the longevity is.

1481
01:13:14,479 --> 01:13:17,120
Speaker 3: My tendency is just I think it will. I think

1482
01:13:17,120 --> 01:13:19,599
Speaker 3: it's gonna make less of a news impact. I think

1483
01:13:19,640 --> 01:13:21,640
Speaker 3: it's gonna be talked about less and it's gonna be

1484
01:13:21,720 --> 01:13:22,400
Speaker 3: less interesting.

1485
01:13:23,400 --> 01:13:26,479
Speaker 2: We will see what happens. WNBA season kicks off what

1486
01:13:26,560 --> 01:13:29,560
Speaker 2: about probably two and a half months from now, is

1487
01:13:29,600 --> 01:13:32,000
Speaker 2: basically right after the college basketball season, so mid to

1488
01:13:32,080 --> 01:13:35,080
Speaker 2: late April. I we'll see, we'll see, we'll see, We'll see.

1489
01:13:35,120 --> 01:13:37,720
Speaker 2: I don't know what to expect, but I'll tell you

1490
01:13:37,760 --> 01:13:40,519
Speaker 2: what I do think. It is interesting that Caitlyn Clark

1491
01:13:40,600 --> 01:13:42,479
Speaker 2: essentially had nothing to gain by showing up to All

1492
01:13:42,479 --> 01:13:45,520
Speaker 2: Star Weekend Fox Sports Radio er towards Jason Martin broadcasting

1493
01:13:45,520 --> 01:13:47,920
Speaker 2: that ive from the Tyrek dot Com studios. We will

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Speaker 2: come back, we will talk to de Seger, he will

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01:13:51,400 --> 01:13:54,559
Speaker 2: have his extended update and then our three plenty more

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01:13:54,680 --> 01:13:58,080
Speaker 2: NFL and I did just come across one interesting NBA

1497
01:13:58,160 --> 01:14:00,160
Speaker 2: All Star Weekend thing that I want Jamart's take, so

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01:14:00,200 --> 01:14:03,320
Speaker 2: we got a busy hour and eighteen minutes left to

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01:14:03,400 --> 01:14:07,080
Speaker 2: Seger's up. Next, Fox Sports, are you welcome back?

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Speaker 3: Everybody?

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Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio, Aer Torris Jasonbart broadcasting live from theti

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01:14:13,120 --> 01:14:17,960
Speaker 2: iraq dot Com studios. As we do every week around

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01:14:18,040 --> 01:14:19,719
Speaker 2: this time, we tost it over the news desk Steve

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01:14:19,800 --> 01:14:22,719
Speaker 2: de Sager Flora's yours, My friend, guys, I.

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01:14:22,640 --> 01:14:25,360
Speaker 6: Want your opinion on something I saw tonight from Texas

1506
01:14:25,400 --> 01:14:27,600
Speaker 6: A and M in just a moment, But first I

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01:14:27,680 --> 01:14:30,719
Speaker 6: must pass along that Nebraska football has lost its play

1508
01:14:30,720 --> 01:14:33,400
Speaker 6: by play voice, as Greg Sharp has passed away at

1509
01:14:33,439 --> 01:14:37,360
Speaker 6: age sixty one. Died yesterday, ten months after he announced

1510
01:14:37,360 --> 01:14:40,240
Speaker 6: he had been diagnosed with pancreatic cancer. It had the

1511
01:14:40,280 --> 01:14:43,880
Speaker 6: Nebraska football gig for almost twenty years. Ex White Sox

1512
01:14:43,920 --> 01:14:47,160
Speaker 6: closer Bobby Jenks is being treated in Europe for stomach cancer,

1513
01:14:47,160 --> 01:14:49,639
Speaker 6: but at age forty three, Jenks says he is planning

1514
01:14:49,640 --> 01:14:52,599
Speaker 6: to recover well enough to return for a second season

1515
01:14:52,600 --> 01:14:55,679
Speaker 6: as manager of a minor league Windy City team. Now,

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01:14:55,760 --> 01:14:58,320
Speaker 6: college baseball is just starting. Texas A and M is

1517
01:14:58,400 --> 01:15:01,519
Speaker 6: ranked number one in the country. Did not know until tonight,

1518
01:15:01,600 --> 01:15:04,480
Speaker 6: but I am reading this off the A and M website.

1519
01:15:04,560 --> 01:15:09,280
Speaker 6: Under media policies this on game days, interviews will be

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01:15:09,320 --> 01:15:13,920
Speaker 6: conducted about ten minutes after the game. Parentheses note players

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01:15:13,960 --> 01:15:16,439
Speaker 6: will not be made available following a loss.

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01:15:18,280 --> 01:15:20,960
Speaker 2: So I saw this only because I know a lot

1523
01:15:20,960 --> 01:15:22,880
Speaker 2: of the A and M beat writers. I'll get my

1524
01:15:22,960 --> 01:15:25,040
Speaker 2: quick take. J Martin, you know you please share with

1525
01:15:25,200 --> 01:15:26,080
Speaker 2: your thoughts.

1526
01:15:26,160 --> 01:15:28,200
Speaker 3: My how the guys feel about this.

1527
01:15:28,680 --> 01:15:30,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, Richard Zayin, that was my guy that asked

1528
01:15:30,920 --> 01:15:34,280
Speaker 2: Schlausonegele to comment about, Hey, we're hearing rumors to Texas

1529
01:15:34,320 --> 01:15:38,000
Speaker 2: and he was like, I'm insulted that you even asked.

1530
01:15:38,920 --> 01:15:42,000
Speaker 2: All'll say is college is weird because it's not like

1531
01:15:42,080 --> 01:15:45,280
Speaker 2: the NBA or NFL where there's uniform crass. Every school

1532
01:15:45,360 --> 01:15:47,320
Speaker 2: kind of just does it differently, like I know correct

1533
01:15:47,360 --> 01:15:49,680
Speaker 2: Like as an example, like Michigan State basketball, they have

1534
01:15:49,720 --> 01:15:51,720
Speaker 2: an open locker room after every game, so it's just

1535
01:15:51,800 --> 01:15:54,200
Speaker 2: like you want that, dude. And then other schools it's

1536
01:15:54,240 --> 01:15:58,080
Speaker 2: like you get players only at the podium whatever and

1537
01:15:58,880 --> 01:16:00,439
Speaker 2: more schools are like that.

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01:16:00,520 --> 01:16:03,840
Speaker 6: When I covered UCLA football, sometimes the sid would meet

1539
01:16:03,880 --> 01:16:05,639
Speaker 6: me at the entrance and say who do you need?

1540
01:16:05,680 --> 01:16:06,600
Speaker 6: Who can I get for you?

1541
01:16:06,840 --> 01:16:08,559
Speaker 2: That was probably I had to hate you. That was

1542
01:16:08,560 --> 01:16:11,080
Speaker 2: probably back in the day, right, Dallan's Yeah, yeah.

1543
01:16:11,160 --> 01:16:14,519
Speaker 3: I remember being a stringer at the national title game,

1544
01:16:14,840 --> 01:16:18,599
Speaker 3: the Alabama Georgia game and going into the locker room

1545
01:16:18,720 --> 01:16:20,200
Speaker 3: and they were just like, well two is not going

1546
01:16:20,240 --> 01:16:22,880
Speaker 3: to talk because he's a freshman. Like Alabama had a

1547
01:16:22,960 --> 01:16:25,479
Speaker 3: rule freshman didn't talk. Like there were all sorts of

1548
01:16:25,520 --> 01:16:27,280
Speaker 3: different rules as to who you could talk to, what

1549
01:16:27,400 --> 01:16:30,040
Speaker 3: rooms you could be in. It's different. It's definitely a difference.

1550
01:16:30,120 --> 01:16:32,040
Speaker 6: This really jumped out of me because this is the

1551
01:16:32,160 --> 01:16:35,439
Speaker 6: number one ranked college baseball team and not a single

1552
01:16:35,520 --> 01:16:37,800
Speaker 6: player will talk unless they win the game.

1553
01:16:38,200 --> 01:16:41,040
Speaker 2: Can I just add one more funny media availability story,

1554
01:16:41,680 --> 01:16:45,000
Speaker 2: Duke I was at the game when coach k got

1555
01:16:45,040 --> 01:16:48,639
Speaker 2: into it with Dylan Brooks, and you know, per NCAA rules,

1556
01:16:48,640 --> 01:16:50,479
Speaker 2: they have to open the locker room after the game

1557
01:16:50,840 --> 01:16:53,920
Speaker 2: and in the NCAA tournament and Brandon Ingram was on

1558
01:16:53,960 --> 01:16:57,759
Speaker 2: the team and they literally hid him in the shower

1559
01:16:57,880 --> 01:17:00,439
Speaker 2: and were like he's not available to talk. And it's

1560
01:17:00,479 --> 01:17:02,720
Speaker 2: like that's soft. So really quickly, because I know you

1561
01:17:02,760 --> 01:17:04,320
Speaker 2: have a lot more to get to. All I will

1562
01:17:04,320 --> 01:17:07,720
Speaker 2: say is I think it's weak only because if your

1563
01:17:07,920 --> 01:17:10,880
Speaker 2: uniform across the board. Policy is we make one player

1564
01:17:10,920 --> 01:17:13,680
Speaker 2: available after every game, or we make no players. It's

1565
01:17:13,680 --> 01:17:16,519
Speaker 2: one thing that have no players available, ever, it's another

1566
01:17:16,560 --> 01:17:19,120
Speaker 2: thing only after they win, which I know is the

1567
01:17:19,120 --> 01:17:21,200
Speaker 2: point that you're ultimately trying to get to. It's weird.

1568
01:17:21,280 --> 01:17:22,880
Speaker 2: I agree with that one hundred percent, Jason.

1569
01:17:23,560 --> 01:17:26,080
Speaker 3: The optics are terrible, Like it's just that, just that

1570
01:17:26,200 --> 01:17:29,599
Speaker 3: it looks bad, even if you're trying to protect young

1571
01:17:29,600 --> 01:17:32,439
Speaker 3: guys from saying something tough or whatever, like Texas A

1572
01:17:32,520 --> 01:17:34,439
Speaker 3: and M seems to be the team and the school

1573
01:17:34,479 --> 01:17:37,280
Speaker 3: that does stuff like this that irritates you. This is

1574
01:17:37,320 --> 01:17:39,320
Speaker 3: not the first time that Texas A and M has

1575
01:17:39,360 --> 01:17:41,840
Speaker 3: done something that's just weird. The SEC didn't want the

1576
01:17:41,840 --> 01:17:42,919
Speaker 3: men because they're strange.

1577
01:17:44,080 --> 01:17:47,519
Speaker 6: As for this policy from A and M. I know

1578
01:17:47,600 --> 01:17:51,400
Speaker 6: that athletic departments lesson that's these days have anything to

1579
01:17:51,439 --> 01:17:54,880
Speaker 6: do with the university as a whole. Actually, But part

1580
01:17:54,960 --> 01:17:57,960
Speaker 6: of the reason people go to college is the growth

1581
01:17:58,040 --> 01:18:01,160
Speaker 6: of using what you learn here applying it to your

1582
01:18:01,280 --> 01:18:05,160
Speaker 6: future young adult life. Are you saying that these players

1583
01:18:05,200 --> 01:18:08,440
Speaker 6: on the number one ranked team when they become professionals

1584
01:18:09,240 --> 01:18:13,040
Speaker 6: are going to be avoiding interviews unless they win the game.

1585
01:18:12,960 --> 01:18:14,840
Speaker 2: Well, and I think that's the whole thing, right, is

1586
01:18:15,000 --> 01:18:17,720
Speaker 2: dealing with adversity. Again, I'm going to be quick with

1587
01:18:17,760 --> 01:18:18,200
Speaker 2: the mission.

1588
01:18:18,240 --> 01:18:19,040
Speaker 3: You have to learn.

1589
01:18:19,160 --> 01:18:22,479
Speaker 2: It's college, yes, and that like that's Michigan State's policy

1590
01:18:22,520 --> 01:18:24,920
Speaker 2: is every player is available because they got to deal

1591
01:18:24,920 --> 01:18:26,599
Speaker 2: with if they want to play in the NBA bing

1592
01:18:26,840 --> 01:18:27,360
Speaker 2: good and bad.

1593
01:18:27,400 --> 01:18:30,840
Speaker 6: So I will bring up that the US hockey win

1594
01:18:30,880 --> 01:18:34,519
Speaker 6: against Finland on Thursday night got one point five to

1595
01:18:34,520 --> 01:18:38,040
Speaker 6: five million viewers, which doesn't sound out a lot. It's

1596
01:18:38,080 --> 01:18:42,160
Speaker 6: not a lot, but by hockey standards, it's phenomenal because,

1597
01:18:42,160 --> 01:18:45,960
Speaker 6: aside from the Stanley Cup playoffs, that's the largest NHL

1598
01:18:46,040 --> 01:18:49,200
Speaker 6: related audience they've had in this country in two years,

1599
01:18:49,760 --> 01:18:53,040
Speaker 6: one point five to five million viewers. That same night,

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01:18:53,200 --> 01:18:56,360
Speaker 6: NASCAR got more on FS one for the Daytona Duels

1601
01:18:56,360 --> 01:18:59,240
Speaker 6: at about one point eight five million. But I will

1602
01:18:59,280 --> 01:19:04,559
Speaker 6: add those two audiences I just mentioned Nascar and hockey

1603
01:19:04,640 --> 01:19:09,000
Speaker 6: Thursday night got better ratings than either the NBA doubleheader

1604
01:19:09,000 --> 01:19:13,000
Speaker 6: on ESPN Wednesday or the NBA doubleheader on TNT twos.

1605
01:19:13,080 --> 01:19:14,840
Speaker 2: I'll tell you what to saga. From now on, We're

1606
01:19:14,840 --> 01:19:16,559
Speaker 2: gonna give you the normal nine to forty five at

1607
01:19:16,560 --> 01:19:20,599
Speaker 2: eight forty five, you'll just share embarrassing NBA ratings stats

1608
01:19:20,800 --> 01:19:23,200
Speaker 2: because they come up every single week in this segment.

1609
01:19:23,240 --> 01:19:26,679
Speaker 2: Absolutely so NBA are hockey and deal with the facts

1610
01:19:26,680 --> 01:19:29,280
Speaker 2: here at the Newsday. No, that's it is what it is.

1611
01:19:29,479 --> 01:19:31,320
Speaker 2: Tell you what. We'll come back. I have one more

1612
01:19:31,560 --> 01:19:34,639
Speaker 2: All Star Weekend comment to have. Surprisingly it's not very good.

1613
01:19:34,640 --> 01:19:36,439
Speaker 2: We'll discuss that next Fox Sports Radio.

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1624
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Speaker 2: we led the show by talking to NFL. I want

1625
01:20:20,200 --> 01:20:24,840
Speaker 2: to do one more All Star Game weekend topic. Hey,

1626
01:20:24,840 --> 01:20:26,280
Speaker 2: we don't even have to do the full segment on

1627
01:20:26,280 --> 01:20:27,840
Speaker 2: this we can get back to football here in just

1628
01:20:27,840 --> 01:20:31,760
Speaker 2: a minute. I do want to ask you a question.

1629
01:20:31,880 --> 01:20:35,839
Speaker 2: I saw this tweet from our mutual friend. I mean, really,

1630
01:20:35,960 --> 01:20:39,479
Speaker 2: just one of the great guys in our business, Rob Garra,

1631
01:20:40,120 --> 01:20:41,599
Speaker 2: Senior producer, Odd Company.

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01:20:41,960 --> 01:20:42,759
Speaker 3: Love Rob Garra.

1633
01:20:43,280 --> 01:20:46,280
Speaker 2: Love Listen. If you don't love Rob Garra, that's a

1634
01:20:46,600 --> 01:20:49,240
Speaker 2: there's something wrong with you, because yes, one of the

1635
01:20:49,320 --> 01:20:52,719
Speaker 2: nicest people we know, great guy. I was actually texting

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01:20:52,760 --> 01:20:54,320
Speaker 2: him this morning because I wanted a little bit more

1637
01:20:54,360 --> 01:20:57,120
Speaker 2: details on what Rob said about Kaitlin Clark. But Rob

1638
01:20:57,200 --> 01:20:59,479
Speaker 2: just put this out and I'll be real, I kind

1639
01:20:59,520 --> 01:21:03,240
Speaker 2: of agree with them. He said quote, I honestly can't

1640
01:21:03,280 --> 01:21:07,000
Speaker 2: think of any dunk mac mcclum mac McClung could do

1641
01:21:07,560 --> 01:21:09,960
Speaker 2: that would make me excited to watch a dunk contest

1642
01:21:10,000 --> 01:21:12,679
Speaker 2: with him as the headliner. Something about a G leaguer

1643
01:21:12,760 --> 01:21:15,200
Speaker 2: in the contest just doesn't sit right with me. Can't

1644
01:21:15,240 --> 01:21:17,120
Speaker 2: explain it. I need the stars.

1645
01:21:17,320 --> 01:21:17,400
Speaker 4: Now.

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01:21:17,479 --> 01:21:19,479
Speaker 2: Let's put aside the star stuff, because that's been a

1647
01:21:19,479 --> 01:21:23,280
Speaker 2: conversation for forever. But I remember three years ago being

1648
01:21:23,360 --> 01:21:26,640
Speaker 2: on this same show. I remember vividly. We were in

1649
01:21:26,720 --> 01:21:30,240
Speaker 2: the other studio. De Sega was obviously behind a different

1650
01:21:30,280 --> 01:21:32,920
Speaker 2: glass window. And I remember we either we opened the

1651
01:21:32,920 --> 01:21:36,240
Speaker 2: show or whatever we talked about, like, it's kind of

1652
01:21:36,240 --> 01:21:38,800
Speaker 2: weird they have dudes that aren't in the NBA in

1653
01:21:38,840 --> 01:21:42,000
Speaker 2: the dunk contest yep. And I'm kind of with Rob

1654
01:21:42,080 --> 01:21:45,680
Speaker 2: on this is that. Listen. I get that Mac McClung

1655
01:21:45,960 --> 01:21:50,600
Speaker 2: is really really compelling, you know whatever, but it is

1656
01:21:50,640 --> 01:21:53,000
Speaker 2: all so weird. It'd be like, you know, having an

1657
01:21:53,080 --> 01:21:55,679
Speaker 2: and one mixtape guy, and I know that doesn't exist anymore.

1658
01:21:55,720 --> 01:21:59,040
Speaker 2: But like being in the skills competition, it's like it's

1659
01:21:59,080 --> 01:22:01,760
Speaker 2: cool that he can do this one thing extremely well,

1660
01:22:01,800 --> 01:22:04,160
Speaker 2: but he isn't an NBA player. This is NBA All

1661
01:22:04,200 --> 01:22:09,240
Speaker 2: Star Weekend, and it makes me less interested. I mean,

1662
01:22:09,280 --> 01:22:12,280
Speaker 2: I did not actively tune in to see that gate

1663
01:22:12,560 --> 01:22:16,360
Speaker 2: to see the dunk contest, and I don't know. I

1664
01:22:16,360 --> 01:22:18,840
Speaker 2: think Rob's onto something. I'm curious for your perspective on

1665
01:22:18,840 --> 01:22:19,360
Speaker 2: what he said.

1666
01:22:19,680 --> 01:22:22,040
Speaker 3: I mean, I think Rob's right. I mean, I watched

1667
01:22:22,080 --> 01:22:25,200
Speaker 3: it because I guess I'm glutton for punishment, but I

1668
01:22:25,520 --> 01:22:28,599
Speaker 3: watch it every year and I knew he was gonna

1669
01:22:28,640 --> 01:22:32,160
Speaker 3: win before it started. And I'll tell you, let me

1670
01:22:32,200 --> 01:22:35,479
Speaker 3: tell you just how kind of sad this whole thing

1671
01:22:35,600 --> 01:22:41,160
Speaker 3: is towards the end of it, Kenny Smith says on TV,

1672
01:22:42,320 --> 01:22:44,920
Speaker 3: we just need to cancel the contests and just let

1673
01:22:44,960 --> 01:22:47,759
Speaker 3: Matt come out and do five dunks and enjoy ourselves.

1674
01:22:48,920 --> 01:22:51,320
Speaker 3: And I was just like that, that's what this is like.

1675
01:22:51,360 --> 01:22:54,000
Speaker 3: There's no contest here. With all due respect to the

1676
01:22:54,040 --> 01:22:57,559
Speaker 3: other guys, like Castle did some dunks that were they

1677
01:22:57,560 --> 01:23:01,800
Speaker 3: were all right. McClung is a connoisseur guy. He is like,

1678
01:23:01,840 --> 01:23:03,680
Speaker 3: I mean, they had that show years ago called The

1679
01:23:03,760 --> 01:23:06,400
Speaker 3: Dunk King, and I watched every episode of it and

1680
01:23:06,439 --> 01:23:08,680
Speaker 3: it was just dudes that can dunk, and it was

1681
01:23:08,800 --> 01:23:11,360
Speaker 3: fun and they're dunking over motorcycles and all sorts of

1682
01:23:11,360 --> 01:23:15,799
Speaker 3: crazy stuff and winning money and all. And it was different.

1683
01:23:16,400 --> 01:23:18,000
Speaker 3: But that's what that is.

1684
01:23:18,040 --> 01:23:18,120
Speaker 1: Like.

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01:23:18,160 --> 01:23:21,120
Speaker 3: Matt mclung doesn't play any NBA like, he plays in

1686
01:23:21,160 --> 01:23:24,800
Speaker 3: the G League and once a year he comes out

1687
01:23:24,800 --> 01:23:27,320
Speaker 3: of hibernation like Puck Satani Phil and wins a dunk

1688
01:23:27,360 --> 01:23:29,680
Speaker 3: contest he's a shadow, and then goes back into the

1689
01:23:29,720 --> 01:23:32,680
Speaker 3: G League for another year. Like it's great, but what

1690
01:23:32,760 --> 01:23:35,120
Speaker 3: are you saying other than you don't have a league

1691
01:23:35,120 --> 01:23:38,240
Speaker 3: that can put together its own dunk contest at this point,

1692
01:23:38,280 --> 01:23:41,040
Speaker 3: Like there was talk a month or two ago maybe

1693
01:23:41,080 --> 01:23:43,960
Speaker 3: that zach Lavine might jump back in. I don't blame

1694
01:23:44,040 --> 01:23:46,280
Speaker 3: him for not doing it, because he's already gone down

1695
01:23:46,439 --> 01:23:48,920
Speaker 3: as a great dunker, great all time dunker, because he

1696
01:23:48,920 --> 01:23:50,519
Speaker 3: won a couple of these contests. I think one of

1697
01:23:50,560 --> 01:23:53,680
Speaker 3: them he should have lost to Aaron Gordon, but that notwithstanding,

1698
01:23:53,800 --> 01:23:56,080
Speaker 3: was still a great performance by both of them that night.

1699
01:23:56,600 --> 01:23:59,240
Speaker 3: But you don't have any of the big names. You

1700
01:23:59,240 --> 01:24:01,800
Speaker 3: don't even have any of the middle names. Like I

1701
01:24:01,840 --> 01:24:03,280
Speaker 3: sent you a Texter and this say. I was like,

1702
01:24:03,320 --> 01:24:06,000
Speaker 3: what are we watching here? No one knows who these

1703
01:24:06,000 --> 01:24:09,920
Speaker 3: people are. And you had before this dunk contest started,

1704
01:24:09,960 --> 01:24:15,080
Speaker 3: because they're in the bay. They did a ten minute

1705
01:24:15,120 --> 01:24:19,120
Speaker 3: tribute to Vince Carter's two thousand performance. They showed all

1706
01:24:19,160 --> 01:24:22,400
Speaker 3: five of his dunks they had scripted. They had a

1707
01:24:22,439 --> 01:24:27,760
Speaker 3: script read by Kenny Smith. I believe that it was

1708
01:24:29,320 --> 01:24:31,840
Speaker 3: shackted part of it. One of the guys that was

1709
01:24:31,880 --> 01:24:35,080
Speaker 3: filming at one of the players, Tracy McGrady, was filming

1710
01:24:35,080 --> 01:24:37,000
Speaker 3: it on the sidelines. He was in the dunk concept

1711
01:24:37,080 --> 01:24:38,920
Speaker 3: and he talked about it. Then Vince came out and

1712
01:24:38,960 --> 01:24:42,360
Speaker 3: talked about it. Then they showed the five dunks and

1713
01:24:42,400 --> 01:24:46,880
Speaker 3: then Vince introed all the four dunkers, So they had

1714
01:24:46,880 --> 01:24:48,599
Speaker 3: all this thing. It was all built around Vince Carter.

1715
01:24:48,760 --> 01:24:52,080
Speaker 3: Wasn't built around twenty twenty five because there's no contest,

1716
01:24:52,280 --> 01:24:54,880
Speaker 3: there's nothing there to see. That to me, was a

1717
01:24:54,920 --> 01:24:57,679
Speaker 3: microcosm of the NBA at this point. They do such

1718
01:24:57,720 --> 01:25:01,000
Speaker 3: a poor job at marketing their young talent. They had

1719
01:25:01,080 --> 01:25:04,040
Speaker 3: multiple rookies in this thing, people that nobody have ever

1720
01:25:04,080 --> 01:25:06,160
Speaker 3: heard of, people that aren't getting minutes in the league,

1721
01:25:06,439 --> 01:25:09,240
Speaker 3: and they got Vince Carter telling you that you're supposed

1722
01:25:09,280 --> 01:25:12,479
Speaker 3: to care about these people, while they just spent a

1723
01:25:12,600 --> 01:25:15,080
Speaker 3: lot of television time telling you how great Vince Carter

1724
01:25:15,240 --> 01:25:18,240
Speaker 3: was twenty five years ago. Like, it was stunning to me.

1725
01:25:18,360 --> 01:25:22,880
Speaker 3: But Rob's point is right, But I think that the

1726
01:25:22,960 --> 01:25:25,200
Speaker 3: Kinney's point is right too. Kenny Smith's point. Yeah, just

1727
01:25:25,200 --> 01:25:26,639
Speaker 3: have him come out of here and do five dunks.

1728
01:25:26,680 --> 01:25:28,800
Speaker 3: It's just an exhibition. Let's just see this guy do

1729
01:25:28,880 --> 01:25:31,800
Speaker 3: what he does best and have fun with it because

1730
01:25:31,800 --> 01:25:34,720
Speaker 3: there's no contest here. Like that was a farce. There

1731
01:25:34,760 --> 01:25:36,920
Speaker 3: was nothing. I mean, he had a perfect score on

1732
01:25:36,960 --> 01:25:40,479
Speaker 3: all his dunks because that's what he does. But that's

1733
01:25:40,560 --> 01:25:43,160
Speaker 3: not a dunk contest and that's doing nothing for your

1734
01:25:43,280 --> 01:25:46,120
Speaker 3: league whatsoever. That's just all right, let's see what Mac

1735
01:25:46,160 --> 01:25:49,240
Speaker 3: mclung poll's out this year. He's not really in the NBA.

1736
01:25:50,040 --> 01:25:52,679
Speaker 3: It's like, let's go find somebody from the long Drive

1737
01:25:52,760 --> 01:25:57,760
Speaker 3: competition where they're not steroid tested and have him come

1738
01:25:57,760 --> 01:26:00,479
Speaker 3: out there on the PGA Tour. But all he's going

1739
01:26:00,560 --> 01:26:03,439
Speaker 3: to do is drive. Like none of this makes any sense.

1740
01:26:03,479 --> 01:26:07,160
Speaker 3: I don't. I don't understand. It's a it's an NBA

1741
01:26:07,280 --> 01:26:10,120
Speaker 3: All Star weekend. Like Mac McClung should be winning dunk

1742
01:26:10,160 --> 01:26:12,559
Speaker 3: contests in the G League, not in the NBA.

1743
01:26:13,560 --> 01:26:15,439
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean you you pretty much captured it all.

1744
01:26:15,479 --> 01:26:18,120
Speaker 2: I just I'm with you. Is it it? You know, listen,

1745
01:26:18,160 --> 01:26:20,080
Speaker 2: it's not a thing that has really compelled me by

1746
01:26:20,120 --> 01:26:23,760
Speaker 2: the way. You know, I probably should admit this on air.

1747
01:26:24,000 --> 01:26:26,120
Speaker 2: I didn't really watch any any of any of it,

1748
01:26:26,200 --> 01:26:28,000
Speaker 2: and it was like, I know, there wasn't much else on.

1749
01:26:28,080 --> 01:26:29,800
Speaker 2: I had college hoops on. I was kind of talking

1750
01:26:29,800 --> 01:26:32,680
Speaker 2: to producer bre putting together the show, and it was

1751
01:26:32,800 --> 01:26:35,559
Speaker 2: just it was just it it. There was no interest

1752
01:26:35,560 --> 01:26:37,679
Speaker 2: for me in it at all. And I do think

1753
01:26:37,760 --> 01:26:40,040
Speaker 2: like it does diminish it a little bit now to

1754
01:26:40,080 --> 01:26:43,479
Speaker 2: your point. Uh, First of all, I would even add

1755
01:26:43,840 --> 01:26:45,760
Speaker 2: part of the reason that mac McClung is so much

1756
01:26:45,800 --> 01:26:48,240
Speaker 2: better at dunking than everybody else is because he literally

1757
01:26:48,240 --> 01:26:50,080
Speaker 2: doesn't work on any other skills other than that.

1758
01:26:50,360 --> 01:26:51,960
Speaker 3: That's all I has to do is practice dunking. But

1759
01:26:52,000 --> 01:26:54,040
Speaker 3: they even mentioned that this was kind of stunning to

1760
01:26:54,080 --> 01:26:56,320
Speaker 3: me since you weren't paying attention, I'll drop this nutties

1761
01:26:56,360 --> 01:26:58,840
Speaker 3: on you. They now, and Vince Carter said this because

1762
01:26:58,920 --> 01:27:02,120
Speaker 3: Carter was doing commentary on this, which I did want

1763
01:27:02,160 --> 01:27:04,040
Speaker 3: to hear, like that was gonna be interesting. I wanted

1764
01:27:04,040 --> 01:27:06,960
Speaker 3: to hear how he evaluated what was happening and the

1765
01:27:07,040 --> 01:27:09,720
Speaker 3: emotions and all those things. But like he said that

1766
01:27:09,760 --> 01:27:12,400
Speaker 3: there's now dunk coaches for all these guys, really that

1767
01:27:12,479 --> 01:27:14,600
Speaker 3: they have dunk coaches, And then it came out it

1768
01:27:14,600 --> 01:27:17,200
Speaker 3: seemed like they all had the same dunk coach, or

1769
01:27:17,240 --> 01:27:19,200
Speaker 3: almost all of them did, because they were utilizing the

1770
01:27:19,240 --> 01:27:21,080
Speaker 3: guy to throw them the ball and he couldn't do it.

1771
01:27:21,920 --> 01:27:24,400
Speaker 3: And you had two of them that couldn't even finish

1772
01:27:24,439 --> 01:27:26,760
Speaker 3: within their minute and a half time on their first dunk,

1773
01:27:26,760 --> 01:27:28,560
Speaker 3: and all this kind of stuff, and it's like you

1774
01:27:28,680 --> 01:27:32,559
Speaker 3: got dunk coaches for like guys that are actually in

1775
01:27:32,640 --> 01:27:35,680
Speaker 3: the NBA. It makes sense for mag McClung because he

1776
01:27:35,720 --> 01:27:37,559
Speaker 3: can spend three hundred and sixty five days a year

1777
01:27:37,640 --> 01:27:41,000
Speaker 3: practicing dunks and then he could show up on this

1778
01:27:41,080 --> 01:27:42,479
Speaker 3: day and make a little bit of money. And look,

1779
01:27:42,479 --> 01:27:44,479
Speaker 3: this is no shade on him, the fact that they're

1780
01:27:44,560 --> 01:27:46,120
Speaker 3: letting him in it. He should go out there and

1781
01:27:46,160 --> 01:27:49,080
Speaker 3: show out and good on him, and it's fun to

1782
01:27:49,120 --> 01:27:51,840
Speaker 3: watch him do his thing. But it is basically like

1783
01:27:51,880 --> 01:27:54,080
Speaker 3: going to a circus and see en a trapeze act.

1784
01:27:54,360 --> 01:27:57,559
Speaker 3: Like it's not this is not basketball, this is not

1785
01:27:57,640 --> 01:28:00,000
Speaker 3: the NBA, this is not even the guys who are

1786
01:28:00,080 --> 01:28:02,599
Speaker 3: getting paid to be a part of this weekend. He's

1787
01:28:02,960 --> 01:28:06,479
Speaker 3: He's just a side show act that is incredibly talented.

1788
01:28:06,520 --> 01:28:10,559
Speaker 3: He is I don't know, the Phoenix Sun's Gorilla from

1789
01:28:10,640 --> 01:28:13,240
Speaker 3: back in the day, or like the plate spinners or

1790
01:28:13,280 --> 01:28:16,599
Speaker 3: whatever at mid court. Like he is a sideshow act,

1791
01:28:16,640 --> 01:28:19,559
Speaker 3: a really fun side show act to watch. But is

1792
01:28:19,640 --> 01:28:22,840
Speaker 3: that really your dunk contest? I'm not sure you should

1793
01:28:22,840 --> 01:28:24,200
Speaker 3: have one if that's what you've got.

1794
01:28:24,920 --> 01:28:26,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't really know what else to add. I

1795
01:28:27,040 --> 01:28:31,920
Speaker 2: just I just am blown away by and again, you know,

1796
01:28:32,120 --> 01:28:34,320
Speaker 2: I mean I feel like this is Bash Adams Silver Hour,

1797
01:28:34,360 --> 01:28:37,080
Speaker 2: but I mean, why wouldn't it be. It's just it's

1798
01:28:37,240 --> 01:28:40,080
Speaker 2: just one of these so many issues that the NBA

1799
01:28:40,280 --> 01:28:43,559
Speaker 2: has is like not mac McClung, not the dunk but

1800
01:28:43,680 --> 01:28:47,040
Speaker 2: like the dunk contest doesn't matter, All Star weekend doesn't matter,

1801
01:28:47,240 --> 01:28:50,599
Speaker 2: the regular season doesn't matter, Guys don't play. It's like,

1802
01:28:50,960 --> 01:28:53,559
Speaker 2: you know, you see somebody that you know isn't in

1803
01:28:53,600 --> 01:28:55,519
Speaker 2: good health, It's like, yeah, it doesn't really matter if

1804
01:28:55,520 --> 01:28:58,280
Speaker 2: they brush their teeth, if their internal organs are falling apart,

1805
01:28:58,320 --> 01:29:00,960
Speaker 2: you know, And it's like, I just it's just such

1806
01:29:01,000 --> 01:29:02,240
Speaker 2: a metaphor for the league.

1807
01:29:02,400 --> 01:29:02,720
Speaker 3: Is like.

1808
01:29:04,640 --> 01:29:06,439
Speaker 2: You have you literally have a guy that's not in

1809
01:29:06,479 --> 01:29:08,280
Speaker 2: the NBA. What are the NBA dunckt COT tests? Like

1810
01:29:08,439 --> 01:29:10,960
Speaker 2: It's just I don't even know what else there is

1811
01:29:11,000 --> 01:29:13,880
Speaker 2: to say. And it's so sad because I know you

1812
01:29:13,960 --> 01:29:17,439
Speaker 2: feel the same way. I know are a ton of

1813
01:29:17,439 --> 01:29:19,920
Speaker 2: our audience feels the same way. The NBA used to

1814
01:29:19,960 --> 01:29:22,960
Speaker 2: be must watch TV. And it isn't just oh, is

1815
01:29:23,000 --> 01:29:25,599
Speaker 2: the skill level better now than it was before? Because

1816
01:29:25,640 --> 01:29:27,479
Speaker 2: that's what you know, Like when JJ Reddick was in

1817
01:29:27,520 --> 01:29:29,560
Speaker 2: the media. Oh you guys that claim you liked the

1818
01:29:29,680 --> 01:29:32,120
Speaker 2: nineties basketball, It's like, go back and watch those games.

1819
01:29:32,160 --> 01:29:35,320
Speaker 2: They were unwatchable and it's like, no, they weren't. Yeah,

1820
01:29:35,360 --> 01:29:37,479
Speaker 2: and it was real competition. I mean, I'll tell you this,

1821
01:29:37,520 --> 01:29:39,880
Speaker 2: and now I'm just totally going off the rails here,

1822
01:29:39,920 --> 01:29:42,680
Speaker 2: but I mean I was watching Alabama Auburn today one

1823
01:29:42,800 --> 01:29:45,519
Speaker 2: versus two, and it was like they were playing so

1824
01:29:46,080 --> 01:29:49,040
Speaker 2: freaking hard and nobody would ever argue that there is

1825
01:29:49,160 --> 01:29:51,840
Speaker 2: skilled as dudes in you know, the NBA, But it

1826
01:29:51,960 --> 01:29:55,200
Speaker 2: was like, I just I was really trying to think

1827
01:29:55,280 --> 01:29:58,880
Speaker 2: of the scenario where guys in the NBA would play

1828
01:29:59,000 --> 01:30:01,800
Speaker 2: as hard as those guys, And I mean the only

1829
01:30:01,840 --> 01:30:03,960
Speaker 2: thing I could think of was even a Game seven

1830
01:30:04,000 --> 01:30:05,760
Speaker 2: of the NBA Finals. I don't know that they would

1831
01:30:05,800 --> 01:30:10,040
Speaker 2: have gone as hard from start to finish. So total sidetrack,

1832
01:30:10,240 --> 01:30:11,320
Speaker 2: nothing to do with anything.

1833
01:30:11,439 --> 01:30:12,519
Speaker 3: Contracts are guaranteed.

1834
01:30:12,640 --> 01:30:12,800
Speaker 5: Man.

1835
01:30:12,960 --> 01:30:15,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, well I'll say this. You know, that's been kind

1836
01:30:15,760 --> 01:30:17,679
Speaker 2: of a hot button issue and I don't know how

1837
01:30:17,760 --> 01:30:20,599
Speaker 2: you get out of that. I don't either, but yeah,

1838
01:30:20,760 --> 01:30:22,800
Speaker 2: it's and it's like the other thing it's.

1839
01:30:22,680 --> 01:30:24,840
Speaker 3: Gonna be, by the way, You're not gonna feel better

1840
01:30:24,880 --> 01:30:27,920
Speaker 3: about this twenty four hours from now, because the All

1841
01:30:27,960 --> 01:30:30,639
Speaker 3: Star Game is not gonna work like the what they're

1842
01:30:30,640 --> 01:30:33,760
Speaker 3: trying to do this thing is, this thing is gonna

1843
01:30:33,800 --> 01:30:36,360
Speaker 3: be a mockery. I'm afraid I do not think anybody

1844
01:30:36,439 --> 01:30:39,120
Speaker 3: is gonna take it seriously. And I mean those watching, yes,

1845
01:30:39,160 --> 01:30:41,080
Speaker 3: but I don't think anybody on the floor is gonna

1846
01:30:41,080 --> 01:30:45,479
Speaker 3: take it seriously either. It's going to be the talking

1847
01:30:45,520 --> 01:30:47,519
Speaker 3: point Monday is going to be exactly what you think

1848
01:30:47,520 --> 01:30:50,240
Speaker 3: it's gonna be regarding the NBA All Star Game, which

1849
01:30:50,280 --> 01:30:52,639
Speaker 3: is this thing needs to be put out to pasture.

1850
01:30:53,120 --> 01:30:55,600
Speaker 3: And at some point Adam Silver needs a good headline

1851
01:30:55,960 --> 01:30:59,320
Speaker 3: because he's coming off right now what we just talked about.

1852
01:30:59,640 --> 01:30:59,760
Speaker 5: Uh.

1853
01:31:00,080 --> 01:31:05,120
Speaker 3: Also Kitlin Clark saying no. Also Luka Dancic's trade information.

1854
01:31:05,600 --> 01:31:11,320
Speaker 3: Also apparently Finland US Hockey out drawing your doubleheaders on

1855
01:31:11,640 --> 01:31:14,960
Speaker 3: ESPN and TNT. All of these things are happening, and

1856
01:31:15,000 --> 01:31:17,519
Speaker 3: you have an All Star Game that's an absolute joke

1857
01:31:18,439 --> 01:31:20,600
Speaker 3: happening in a season that that seems to be the

1858
01:31:20,600 --> 01:31:22,719
Speaker 3: only thing that has made any news about your league

1859
01:31:22,760 --> 01:31:25,280
Speaker 3: this year is the trade deadline. That's it. Yeah.

1860
01:31:25,400 --> 01:31:28,519
Speaker 2: No, And it's funny because I was talking to producer

1861
01:31:28,560 --> 01:31:31,479
Speaker 2: Bree before the show about just where we are. And

1862
01:31:31,520 --> 01:31:33,200
Speaker 2: I think the other thing too. They keep trying to

1863
01:31:33,240 --> 01:31:36,960
Speaker 2: fix everything, and it's like, you don't like even like

1864
01:31:37,000 --> 01:31:39,519
Speaker 2: the skills competition, like it was different this year than

1865
01:31:39,520 --> 01:31:41,120
Speaker 2: it was last year. And it's like, I'm not saying

1866
01:31:41,120 --> 01:31:43,320
Speaker 2: that anyone's tuning in for the skills come to but

1867
01:31:43,439 --> 01:31:45,840
Speaker 2: how can like you get excited about something if it's

1868
01:31:45,920 --> 01:31:48,360
Speaker 2: changing every single year. By the way, was there even

1869
01:31:48,360 --> 01:31:50,679
Speaker 2: a three point contest tonight? I've seen zero buzz?

1870
01:31:50,760 --> 01:31:52,280
Speaker 3: Yes there was Tyler hero one.

1871
01:31:52,439 --> 01:31:56,040
Speaker 2: Okay, well that makes sense. I don't know, man, It's

1872
01:31:56,120 --> 01:31:59,559
Speaker 2: just it's just I this was a once great league

1873
01:31:59,560 --> 01:32:02,599
Speaker 2: and it's just an abomination. I mean, there's so many

1874
01:32:02,640 --> 01:32:04,120
Speaker 2: holes leaking from the Titanic.

1875
01:32:04,200 --> 01:32:08,280
Speaker 3: It's like, but matt Man, the NBA has become Captain America,

1876
01:32:08,400 --> 01:32:12,679
Speaker 3: Brave New World, like the Captain America films or Can't Miss.

1877
01:32:13,240 --> 01:32:15,519
Speaker 3: First One was really good, Winter Soldier was a just

1878
01:32:15,880 --> 01:32:20,000
Speaker 3: unbelievable movie. Civil Wars still talked about all this kind

1879
01:32:20,000 --> 01:32:22,080
Speaker 3: of stuff, and then Brave New World comes out and

1880
01:32:22,120 --> 01:32:24,439
Speaker 3: it barely has a fifty percent on Rotten Tomatoes. The

1881
01:32:24,439 --> 01:32:27,800
Speaker 3: audience doesn't like it. It's not seen as essential at all,

1882
01:32:27,920 --> 01:32:30,160
Speaker 3: despite the fact that it has talented people and it's

1883
01:32:30,160 --> 01:32:32,640
Speaker 3: got you know, Harrison Ford's in it, Anthony Mackie's in it,

1884
01:32:32,960 --> 01:32:35,120
Speaker 3: some big names are in it. It's a franchise that

1885
01:32:35,280 --> 01:32:38,080
Speaker 3: has you know, history behind it and all this kind

1886
01:32:38,120 --> 01:32:41,080
Speaker 3: of stuff. It's gonna bomb, man, It's not going to

1887
01:32:41,120 --> 01:32:43,599
Speaker 3: make money. And you look at the NBA same thing.

1888
01:32:43,640 --> 01:32:45,200
Speaker 3: There's a lot of talented people in the Lake. There's

1889
01:32:45,200 --> 01:32:47,439
Speaker 3: some big names in that league. But that league right

1890
01:32:47,439 --> 01:32:51,320
Speaker 3: now is just not it's not cool anymore. Like it's

1891
01:32:51,400 --> 01:32:54,000
Speaker 3: just there's no reason to be paying attention to it.

1892
01:32:54,040 --> 01:32:57,360
Speaker 3: And honestly, if you're the commissioner, that falls completely at

1893
01:32:57,360 --> 01:32:59,559
Speaker 3: your feet. You have to find a way to take

1894
01:32:59,600 --> 01:33:03,160
Speaker 3: control of league, market it right and get your own

1895
01:33:03,320 --> 01:33:07,519
Speaker 3: players to buy into the idea of actually making it

1896
01:33:07,560 --> 01:33:10,120
Speaker 3: a product again. And right now they are not doing that.

1897
01:33:10,400 --> 01:33:12,360
Speaker 2: I just I don't even know where you begin. It's

1898
01:33:12,479 --> 01:33:15,439
Speaker 2: just such a rotten apple. It's like, I don't I

1899
01:33:15,439 --> 01:33:17,160
Speaker 2: don't even I mean, one, I just think you have

1900
01:33:17,200 --> 01:33:21,800
Speaker 2: to start with a new commissioner. That's one. But two,

1901
01:33:21,880 --> 01:33:23,960
Speaker 2: I just I mean, I I just don't even know

1902
01:33:24,080 --> 01:33:26,240
Speaker 2: how you start. And I'll add this too. I just

1903
01:33:26,360 --> 01:33:28,920
Speaker 2: I don't know how you can be a player and

1904
01:33:28,960 --> 01:33:31,920
Speaker 2: not be embarrassed by what this thing has become. I mean,

1905
01:33:32,160 --> 01:33:34,479
Speaker 2: you go back, you know, you watch All Star Game

1906
01:33:34,520 --> 01:33:38,400
Speaker 2: highlights with Magic Johnson, Michael Jordan, Kobe Bryant. I mean,

1907
01:33:38,640 --> 01:33:40,120
Speaker 2: we don't have to go back to Magic Johns. That's

1908
01:33:40,120 --> 01:33:43,679
Speaker 2: thirty five years ago, forty years ago, Kobe Bryant fifteen

1909
01:33:43,760 --> 01:33:46,640
Speaker 2: years ago. And it's like, if you're a player, you

1910
01:33:46,680 --> 01:33:49,200
Speaker 2: should be embarrassed. But you know, maybe when you're making

1911
01:33:49,200 --> 01:33:50,360
Speaker 2: forty fifty sixty million.

1912
01:33:50,400 --> 01:33:50,720
Speaker 3: I don't know.

1913
01:33:50,760 --> 01:33:53,559
Speaker 2: It's just I'm frustrated because this was a lead that

1914
01:33:53,600 --> 01:33:55,880
Speaker 2: I used to love, that I used to follow, and

1915
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Speaker 2: it's just there's just so many things wrong with it,

1916
01:33:59,200 --> 01:33:59,840
Speaker 2: so many these wrong.

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Speaker 3: That's a larm Look, hey man, you've even got the

1918
01:34:04,680 --> 01:34:08,040
Speaker 3: the pulse of the league. Draymond Green, great call calling

1919
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Speaker 3: NBA games boring. I'll tell you what.

1920
01:34:10,280 --> 01:34:13,200
Speaker 2: I wasn't planning on going that direction, But since producer

1921
01:34:13,240 --> 01:34:14,840
Speaker 2: bre works so hard to get that sound in and

1922
01:34:14,920 --> 01:34:17,320
Speaker 2: Mary works so hard to push one button to play it,

1923
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Speaker 2: we'll go ahead and do that next. Draymond Green, very

1924
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Speaker 2: interesting comments.

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Speaker 3: That's next.

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1927
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Speaker 2: Welcome back everybody, Fox Sports Radio er tors Jason Martin

1931
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Speaker 2: broadcasting live from the tire Raq dot com studios. J Martin,

1932
01:34:49,640 --> 01:34:51,519
Speaker 2: We've been talking a lot about All Star weekend. You know,

1933
01:34:51,560 --> 01:34:55,200
Speaker 2: we have all this great dack sound Aaron Rodgers. Maybe

1934
01:34:55,200 --> 01:34:56,479
Speaker 2: we'll get to him at a minute, but I'll tell

1935
01:34:56,479 --> 01:35:00,160
Speaker 2: you what, man bash in the NBA sure is fun,

1936
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Speaker 2: isn't it.

1937
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Speaker 3: I Mean, this is the weekend that you can kind

1938
01:35:03,000 --> 01:35:07,200
Speaker 3: of do it. I hate doing it because I I

1939
01:35:07,240 --> 01:35:09,479
Speaker 3: want to like this league a lot more right now

1940
01:35:09,520 --> 01:35:12,160
Speaker 3: than I do because I've loved it so much in

1941
01:35:12,200 --> 01:35:15,639
Speaker 3: the past, and I think that it's right to call

1942
01:35:15,680 --> 01:35:17,479
Speaker 3: it out right now because they're doing a whole lot

1943
01:35:17,479 --> 01:35:20,120
Speaker 3: of things to make there. It's low hanging through at

1944
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Speaker 3: this point.

1945
01:35:20,760 --> 01:35:22,679
Speaker 2: You know, I'll say this too really quick because didn't

1946
01:35:22,680 --> 01:35:25,559
Speaker 2: want to get to the Draymond Green sound. Now we're

1947
01:35:25,600 --> 01:35:28,280
Speaker 2: just getting into personal opinion and maybe it's not fair

1948
01:35:28,400 --> 01:35:31,240
Speaker 2: and why does my opinion matter that? I also, I

1949
01:35:31,280 --> 01:35:33,160
Speaker 2: was telling somebody this the other day, I forget it

1950
01:35:33,200 --> 01:35:36,599
Speaker 2: was somebody in this studio. I can't remember who. You know,

1951
01:35:36,760 --> 01:35:40,839
Speaker 2: there's no storylines until Luca happened. I also just don't

1952
01:35:40,920 --> 01:35:44,840
Speaker 2: find this wave of players to be as compelling as

1953
01:35:45,320 --> 01:35:48,360
Speaker 2: previous generations. You know, like Anthony Edwards is kind of

1954
01:35:48,400 --> 01:35:51,280
Speaker 2: getting there, but he's not quite there yet, and you know,

1955
01:35:51,760 --> 01:35:54,160
Speaker 2: we'll see what happens with him. And like Tatum's a

1956
01:35:54,200 --> 01:35:56,160
Speaker 2: really good guy, but like, you know, he's not like

1957
01:35:56,200 --> 01:35:59,840
Speaker 2: that super compelling guy like jokicch obviously, you know, it's

1958
01:36:00,040 --> 01:36:02,960
Speaker 2: out of a withdrawn guy shake Giljess. Alexander has to

1959
01:36:02,960 --> 01:36:06,120
Speaker 2: be the most boring superstar that we've ever seen. Like

1960
01:36:06,160 --> 01:36:08,840
Speaker 2: he plays boring, he is boring. He ever said. I

1961
01:36:08,840 --> 01:36:11,400
Speaker 2: don't know, I just don't. I feel like I'm being

1962
01:36:11,479 --> 01:36:14,160
Speaker 2: too mean to the NBA today. But tell you what,

1963
01:36:14,360 --> 01:36:16,240
Speaker 2: no who else was kind of mean to the NBA today,

1964
01:36:16,680 --> 01:36:20,200
Speaker 2: Draymond Green. Draymond Green, as we said, it is obviously

1965
01:36:20,280 --> 01:36:22,280
Speaker 2: not only All Star weekend, but all the players there

1966
01:36:23,240 --> 01:36:25,880
Speaker 2: have media availability. And so I bring it up because

1967
01:36:25,920 --> 01:36:28,880
Speaker 2: Draymond Green was asked about all sorts of things, and

1968
01:36:28,920 --> 01:36:31,360
Speaker 2: he had this to say about the state of the NBA.

1969
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Speaker 7: I think the physicality has been taken out of the game,

1970
01:36:35,080 --> 01:36:38,240
Speaker 7: and to meet us boring, the old style of referee

1971
01:36:38,360 --> 01:36:44,040
Speaker 7: would come back where if you've earned stripes you get

1972
01:36:44,040 --> 01:36:47,960
Speaker 7: a better whistle. That's just the way it used to go.

1973
01:36:49,360 --> 01:36:53,960
Speaker 7: And now it's not that way. And then you question why,

1974
01:36:54,080 --> 01:36:56,639
Speaker 7: like why is the game boring?

1975
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Speaker 2: So let me say this really quick and I'll toss

1976
01:36:59,640 --> 01:37:01,320
Speaker 2: it over to you. So I don't know about all

1977
01:37:01,400 --> 01:37:03,559
Speaker 2: the stripes of Oh, this guy has to earn his

1978
01:37:03,680 --> 01:37:07,639
Speaker 2: right to get foul calls. The ironic part about that comment,

1979
01:37:07,640 --> 01:37:10,320
Speaker 2: there is a lot of irony. Yeah, that is true too,

1980
01:37:10,680 --> 01:37:13,000
Speaker 2: But the ironic part about that comment the first part.

1981
01:37:13,200 --> 01:37:14,880
Speaker 2: As matter of fact, Mary Mack played one more time

1982
01:37:14,920 --> 01:37:16,559
Speaker 2: because I want to make sure to hear it correctly.

1983
01:37:16,880 --> 01:37:18,160
Speaker 2: And before I say anything, I.

1984
01:37:18,080 --> 01:37:20,599
Speaker 7: Think the physicality has been taken out of the game

1985
01:37:21,560 --> 01:37:24,719
Speaker 7: and to meet that's born the old style of referee

1986
01:37:24,720 --> 01:37:30,280
Speaker 7: and would come back where if you've earned stripes you

1987
01:37:30,360 --> 01:37:31,240
Speaker 7: get a better whistle.

1988
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Speaker 3: That's just the way it used to go.

1989
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Speaker 2: So he said the physicality of the NBA, So why

1990
01:37:38,400 --> 01:37:41,400
Speaker 2: I find that funny? This was the point that I

1991
01:37:41,439 --> 01:37:44,080
Speaker 2: tried to make three years ago, and JJ Reddick tried

1992
01:37:44,120 --> 01:37:46,479
Speaker 2: to shout me down on Twitter. I'm not going to

1993
01:37:46,520 --> 01:37:49,879
Speaker 2: tell the whole story again, but I'm watching an Elite

1994
01:37:49,880 --> 01:37:53,080
Speaker 2: eight game between Villanova and Houston, and I was like,

1995
01:37:54,320 --> 01:37:56,920
Speaker 2: whatever I said, you know, we'd see you know, this

1996
01:37:57,080 --> 01:37:59,280
Speaker 2: was kind of when the scoring explosion first started to

1997
01:37:59,320 --> 01:38:01,240
Speaker 2: happen in the NBA, And I'm like, well, we'd see

1998
01:38:01,240 --> 01:38:03,000
Speaker 2: a lot of games in the seventies and eighties if

1999
01:38:03,120 --> 01:38:06,200
Speaker 2: NBA players were allowed to play that type of defense. Now,

2000
01:38:06,200 --> 01:38:08,960
Speaker 2: obviously JJ reddicks a little bit of a knucklehead, that's fine.

2001
01:38:09,320 --> 01:38:12,880
Speaker 2: He perceived me saying that there's no defense in the NBA,

2002
01:38:12,960 --> 01:38:15,920
Speaker 2: when what I was saying was is that you can't

2003
01:38:15,960 --> 01:38:18,519
Speaker 2: play defense like certain teams in college or any level.

2004
01:38:18,560 --> 01:38:21,200
Speaker 2: It's not just college basketball's high school basketball. It's Internet like,

2005
01:38:21,240 --> 01:38:26,160
Speaker 2: you can't play that way. And so again, I understand

2006
01:38:26,240 --> 01:38:29,120
Speaker 2: that maybe the nineties era, when there were a lot

2007
01:38:29,120 --> 01:38:32,080
Speaker 2: of games in the eighties and low nineties, wasn't the

2008
01:38:32,200 --> 01:38:35,360
Speaker 2: sexiest brand of play, but it's like anything else, it

2009
01:38:35,400 --> 01:38:39,400
Speaker 2: can go too far the other way as well, where

2010
01:38:39,439 --> 01:38:41,320
Speaker 2: you know, you try to change the rules, you eliminate

2011
01:38:41,400 --> 01:38:43,880
Speaker 2: hand checking, and now you just got all these games

2012
01:38:43,880 --> 01:38:46,000
Speaker 2: where nobody's playing defense, and obviously I think it's all

2013
01:38:46,040 --> 01:38:48,400
Speaker 2: tied into the analytics as well, more three pointers whatever.

2014
01:38:48,640 --> 01:38:50,519
Speaker 2: But it's kind of funny because that was the point

2015
01:38:50,560 --> 01:38:52,760
Speaker 2: I made three years ago and a current sitting NBA

2016
01:38:52,840 --> 01:38:55,679
Speaker 2: head coach told me I was wrong. Full circle. Draymond

2017
01:38:55,680 --> 01:38:57,640
Speaker 2: agrees that I'm right, But just big pictures, not about me,

2018
01:38:57,880 --> 01:39:00,639
Speaker 2: just just the thought on what Draymond had to say today.

2019
01:39:01,120 --> 01:39:05,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, so you know your league's in trouble when the

2020
01:39:05,880 --> 01:39:08,920
Speaker 3: vontees perfect of your spa is starting to make sense,

2021
01:39:10,200 --> 01:39:13,479
Speaker 3: I mean really like he goes on later and he says,

2022
01:39:13,520 --> 01:39:17,280
Speaker 3: every possession is like a chess move. Where it used

2023
01:39:17,280 --> 01:39:19,000
Speaker 3: to be, you don't get that today in the NBA.

2024
01:39:19,160 --> 01:39:21,080
Speaker 3: You don't get it on a regular basis. It's just

2025
01:39:21,120 --> 01:39:24,160
Speaker 3: who can run faster, who can hit more threes. It's

2026
01:39:24,240 --> 01:39:27,360
Speaker 3: no substance. I think it's very boring. Of course, it's

2027
01:39:27,400 --> 01:39:30,400
Speaker 3: your team that instituted that whole three point thing, and

2028
01:39:30,439 --> 01:39:33,200
Speaker 3: now it's been taken. It's been made into a mockery

2029
01:39:33,240 --> 01:39:35,280
Speaker 3: by a lot of teams that can't even shoot thirty

2030
01:39:35,280 --> 01:39:38,320
Speaker 3: three percent from three and yet continue to do it.

2031
01:39:38,360 --> 01:39:41,759
Speaker 3: I think there was a game back in December between

2032
01:39:41,800 --> 01:39:44,439
Speaker 3: I think it may have been the Bulls and the

2033
01:39:44,560 --> 01:39:48,759
Speaker 3: Hornets and the teams combined for like twenty of ninety

2034
01:39:48,840 --> 01:39:50,080
Speaker 3: something from three.

2035
01:39:50,000 --> 01:39:51,439
Speaker 2: To remember he text me about it.

2036
01:39:51,520 --> 01:39:57,519
Speaker 3: Yet, just absolutely preposterously bad. But one thing that was

2037
01:39:57,560 --> 01:40:04,879
Speaker 3: mentioned was Bryant saying back in the day that basically

2038
01:40:04,880 --> 01:40:09,200
Speaker 3: that basketball was becoming what's called accidental basketball. In his ideas,

2039
01:40:09,240 --> 01:40:11,439
Speaker 3: he goes, it's penetrating pitch. You might make the shot,

2040
01:40:11,520 --> 01:40:13,880
Speaker 3: you might not, And that's that's what he said the

2041
01:40:13,960 --> 01:40:16,679
Speaker 3: NBA game was becoming. He said that, I think shortly

2042
01:40:16,720 --> 01:40:20,880
Speaker 3: before he is passing. And Draymond Green commented on that

2043
01:40:20,960 --> 01:40:22,840
Speaker 3: comment as part of this interview, and he said, yeah,

2044
01:40:22,920 --> 01:40:25,760
Speaker 3: he was right. He couldn't have been more right in

2045
01:40:25,840 --> 01:40:28,960
Speaker 3: what he was saying about this, but like the whole

2046
01:40:29,000 --> 01:40:31,840
Speaker 3: like I should essentially one of the things he's saying there,

2047
01:40:31,880 --> 01:40:34,200
Speaker 3: which I do find just kind of hilarious, is I

2048
01:40:34,200 --> 01:40:38,240
Speaker 3: should be getting calls because I've won championships and all

2049
01:40:38,280 --> 01:40:40,280
Speaker 3: this other kind of stuff. I mean, I do think

2050
01:40:40,280 --> 01:40:43,280
Speaker 3: he's saying that, like this is a dude who Yeah,

2051
01:40:43,640 --> 01:40:46,439
Speaker 3: you don't get the whistles anymore, just like Rashid Wallace,

2052
01:40:46,600 --> 01:40:50,879
Speaker 3: Like you're gonna get all the whistles against you. Rashid

2053
01:40:51,080 --> 01:40:53,320
Speaker 3: had his moments, but you've taken it to a completely

2054
01:40:53,360 --> 01:40:56,000
Speaker 3: different level. But I think the overarching point is right.

2055
01:40:56,080 --> 01:40:58,880
Speaker 3: It is a boring game and the three point shot

2056
01:40:58,920 --> 01:41:01,040
Speaker 3: is part of it. And there's a podcast from a

2057
01:41:01,080 --> 01:41:04,240
Speaker 3: couple of years ago I think where Steph is kind

2058
01:41:04,240 --> 01:41:07,080
Speaker 3: of fighting back against this idea that he killed basketball,

2059
01:41:07,720 --> 01:41:09,840
Speaker 3: and he's just like, listen, man, I didn't tell those

2060
01:41:09,840 --> 01:41:12,960
Speaker 3: idiots to start shooting threes. Mm hm, Like he was

2061
01:41:12,960 --> 01:41:14,760
Speaker 3: looking around. It's like I didn't tell him to take

2062
01:41:14,760 --> 01:41:16,719
Speaker 3: that shot. He's even said, he goes, I probably would

2063
01:41:16,720 --> 01:41:18,599
Speaker 3: have taken that shot, but I certainly wouldn't have told

2064
01:41:18,640 --> 01:41:20,880
Speaker 3: him to take that shot. And I think that's right.

2065
01:41:21,080 --> 01:41:24,720
Speaker 3: Like I do think that the analytics of all of

2066
01:41:24,760 --> 01:41:27,360
Speaker 3: this has wrecked it all because they've seen, well, you

2067
01:41:27,360 --> 01:41:29,519
Speaker 3: should take threes and not mid range jumpers. I think

2068
01:41:29,600 --> 01:41:33,120
Speaker 3: Damian Loward said that during All Star Weekend this weekend

2069
01:41:33,160 --> 01:41:35,559
Speaker 3: as well, that they're being urged. It's like, you either

2070
01:41:35,600 --> 01:41:37,479
Speaker 3: get a layup or a three, do not take mid

2071
01:41:37,560 --> 01:41:40,680
Speaker 3: range jumpers. And it's just like because because of the

2072
01:41:40,720 --> 01:41:43,960
Speaker 3: way that the math works out and the percentages. But

2073
01:41:44,800 --> 01:41:47,240
Speaker 3: I do think that that it's being that the league

2074
01:41:47,280 --> 01:41:50,040
Speaker 3: is being micro managed. From that perspective to a degree

2075
01:41:50,080 --> 01:41:52,800
Speaker 3: that a lot of this is sameness. A lot of

2076
01:41:52,840 --> 01:41:54,640
Speaker 3: it is just watching guys run down the floor and

2077
01:41:54,680 --> 01:41:57,600
Speaker 3: take the first open three, or as Kobe said, just

2078
01:41:57,600 --> 01:42:00,519
Speaker 3: get into the lane and kick it out and maybe

2079
01:42:00,520 --> 01:42:02,320
Speaker 3: they're gonna make the three, maybe not, but they're just

2080
01:42:02,360 --> 01:42:04,360
Speaker 3: gonna keep on doing that up and down the floor

2081
01:42:04,400 --> 01:42:07,400
Speaker 3: on both sides. And that, to me is just not

2082
01:42:07,520 --> 01:42:10,360
Speaker 3: interesting to watch. That's that's not fun And that's not

2083
01:42:10,439 --> 01:42:13,160
Speaker 3: the basketball that I grew up on, either college or

2084
01:42:13,200 --> 01:42:13,880
Speaker 3: the NBA.

2085
01:42:13,960 --> 01:42:18,080
Speaker 2: Well, no, and I think that all of the we've

2086
01:42:18,080 --> 01:42:20,839
Speaker 2: talked about it, but the analytics I think have have killed.

2087
01:42:21,080 --> 01:42:23,200
Speaker 2: I think it's hurt coverage of baseball, and I think

2088
01:42:23,200 --> 01:42:25,599
Speaker 2: it's it's hurt the NBA because it's exactly what you said.

2089
01:42:25,600 --> 01:42:30,280
Speaker 2: Everything's micromanaged. It's just not a good product to watch.

2090
01:42:30,320 --> 01:42:30,479
Speaker 3: Man.

2091
01:42:30,520 --> 01:42:32,400
Speaker 2: It's just it's not a good product to watch. And

2092
01:42:32,479 --> 01:42:34,680
Speaker 2: so tell you what, we could go on and on

2093
01:42:35,000 --> 01:42:38,320
Speaker 2: about the NBA. We've done enough NBA bashing for one night.

2094
01:42:38,320 --> 01:42:41,240
Speaker 2: We'll come back. How about we do some cowboys bashing instead?

2095
01:42:41,560 --> 01:42:41,760
Speaker 3: Yeah?

2096
01:42:41,800 --> 01:42:44,640
Speaker 2: Sure, Dak Prescott, interesting comments, Mary make sure to have

2097
01:42:44,680 --> 01:42:47,120
Speaker 2: the Dak Prescott sound ready. All right, we'll do that

2098
01:42:47,160 --> 01:42:50,160
Speaker 2: in just one moment before we do though final time

2099
01:42:50,240 --> 01:42:52,120
Speaker 2: this evening, Steve di Sega. What's trending?

2100
01:42:52,160 --> 01:42:54,639
Speaker 6: I will add in the three point discussion that back

2101
01:42:54,680 --> 01:42:58,120
Speaker 6: when Steph Curry was probably five years old, Rick Patino's

2102
01:42:58,200 --> 01:43:01,639
Speaker 6: Kentucky team was shooting twenty five threes ye in forty

2103
01:43:01,680 --> 01:43:02,519
Speaker 6: minute college game.

2104
01:43:02,600 --> 01:43:04,960
Speaker 2: But you know what's interesting about Rick Patino. He has

2105
01:43:05,000 --> 01:43:07,719
Speaker 2: a top ten team, they shoot some of the fewest

2106
01:43:07,720 --> 01:43:10,760
Speaker 2: three pointers in college basketball. Because he basically said, I

2107
01:43:10,800 --> 01:43:13,040
Speaker 2: was putting my guys through workouts and they couldn't hit them.

2108
01:43:13,240 --> 01:43:15,800
Speaker 2: And so that's actually John's nasty to Saint John's now

2109
01:43:15,800 --> 01:43:18,680
Speaker 2: in twenty and because I said something recently on one

2110
01:43:18,680 --> 01:43:21,240
Speaker 2: of my other shows, and I said something about, you know,

2111
01:43:21,320 --> 01:43:23,680
Speaker 2: Rick Patino doesn't believe in the three, and everyone's like,

2112
01:43:23,680 --> 01:43:25,640
Speaker 2: you're an idiot, you don't know, and I'm like, no,

2113
01:43:25,760 --> 01:43:28,479
Speaker 2: what I'm saying is that's real coaching. He knows his

2114
01:43:28,600 --> 01:43:32,160
Speaker 2: team is not good at shooting threes, so he relies

2115
01:43:32,200 --> 01:43:34,760
Speaker 2: on defense, the mid range game, offensive rebound, things like that.

2116
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Speaker 6: I'm sorry I would add that Patino's Kentucky teams could

2117
01:43:37,600 --> 01:43:39,680
Speaker 6: hit more than a third of their three points. I

2118
01:43:39,760 --> 01:43:43,000
Speaker 6: mean yeah, every year. I looked up that box score

2119
01:43:43,080 --> 01:43:47,080
Speaker 6: Bulls Hornets earlier this season, they combined from three point

2120
01:43:47,240 --> 01:43:51,280
Speaker 6: range to be twenty two of ninety seven, which means

2121
01:43:51,680 --> 01:43:55,400
Speaker 6: they missed seventy five three point attempts in one game.

2122
01:43:55,479 --> 01:43:56,960
Speaker 6: That set the NBA record.

2123
01:43:57,240 --> 01:44:00,800
Speaker 3: People bought tickets. What I mean, man, W saw that

2124
01:44:01,280 --> 01:44:03,280
Speaker 3: I could go to high school games and see that

2125
01:44:03,640 --> 01:44:04,559
Speaker 3: bad high school game.

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Speaker 6: I will gim and see that at Chicago earlier this week,

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Speaker 6: eighteen thousand people book tickets for that.

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Speaker 2: The Pistons game. Yes, go ahead, because I have a

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Speaker 2: comment on that, but go ahead.

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Speaker 6: Chicago started oh of twenty from three point range. By halftime,

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01:44:21,280 --> 01:44:24,800
Speaker 6: the home team was losing seventy one twenty nine. So

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Speaker 6: I'm the Pistons. I was at home.

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Speaker 2: I think it came on right after a college game,

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01:44:29,920 --> 01:44:31,719
Speaker 2: and I happen to have Sports Center on the background.

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Speaker 2: It was Scott Van Pelt and Stanford Steve and They're like,

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01:44:33,800 --> 01:44:36,439
Speaker 2: you won't believe what this score is. And I give

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Speaker 2: credit to the people of Chicago for showing up. I

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Speaker 2: was like, imagine being a paying customer. The fans deserve

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01:44:43,400 --> 01:44:46,120
Speaker 2: freaking better than that. I know Chicago has some injuries whatever,

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01:44:46,160 --> 01:44:49,720
Speaker 2: but it's like, what are we doing? It's embarrassment.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, and about the nineties NBA, there were some unwatchable

2142
01:44:53,120 --> 01:44:56,640
Speaker 6: pacers playoff games that ever call where pistons and you know,

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01:44:56,680 --> 01:44:59,280
Speaker 6: it's sixty nine to sixty five the.

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Speaker 2: Effort, That's what I was gonna say. At least she

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01:45:01,479 --> 01:45:02,600
Speaker 2: felt like they were competing.

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Speaker 6: Absolutely, they were, and the rules were a little different,

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01:45:05,240 --> 01:45:07,800
Speaker 6: let's be honest. And the three point line was not,

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01:45:07,960 --> 01:45:11,360
Speaker 6: you know, next to the freedom line either. As for

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Speaker 6: the live golf, it is finishing up and on Fox

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Speaker 6: TV and the winner is Joaquin Neeman down Under at Australia. Meanwhile,

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01:45:18,600 --> 01:45:21,519
Speaker 6: in San Diego at the PG event, Patrick Rodgers leads

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01:45:21,520 --> 01:45:24,240
Speaker 6: by one. Roy McElroy shot a third round seventy four

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01:45:24,320 --> 01:45:27,000
Speaker 6: falls to a tie for eighth. There is the Daytona

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Speaker 6: five hundred TV Coverageohn Fox Sunday Race, due to begin

2155
01:45:30,720 --> 01:45:33,320
Speaker 6: at two pm Eastern time. They will have rain at

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01:45:33,360 --> 01:45:36,920
Speaker 6: some point in the afternoon. At Daytona in Montreal, Tonight

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01:45:36,920 --> 01:45:40,120
Speaker 6: Hockey's Four Nations faceoff saw the US beat Canada three

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01:45:40,160 --> 01:45:42,360
Speaker 6: to one, including an empty net goal late so the

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Speaker 6: US two to zero and the round robin, and will

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Speaker 6: therefore already we know will be in the Thursday night

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Speaker 6: Championship game at NBA All Stars Saturday Night Slam Dunk

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01:45:50,840 --> 01:45:53,479
Speaker 6: Contest winner Mac McClung from the G League for a

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01:45:53,520 --> 01:45:57,080
Speaker 6: third straight year, The Dodgers full squad workouts at spring

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01:45:57,160 --> 01:46:00,599
Speaker 6: training started today the Cubs yesterday. It'll be dodd against

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Speaker 6: Cubs to open the regular season in March in Tokyo,

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01:46:03,840 --> 01:46:07,280
Speaker 6: with those games beginning at six am Eastern time. Sho

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01:46:07,360 --> 01:46:11,200
Speaker 6: hey Otani threw his first bullpen session today, just fourteen pitches,

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01:46:11,280 --> 01:46:13,720
Speaker 6: all fast balls, but the team was encouraged and he

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01:46:13,760 --> 01:46:16,400
Speaker 6: could face live hitters by the time LA breaks camp

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Speaker 6: next month. The Dodgers will use a five man pitching

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Speaker 6: rotation after all, until o'tanni returns to pitch in May,

2172
01:46:22,560 --> 01:46:25,080
Speaker 6: since they are built in off days in the early schedule.

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01:46:25,240 --> 01:46:27,840
Speaker 6: Pitcher Max Friedex of Atlanta had his first session on

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Speaker 6: the mound at Yankees camp today. He's starting an eight

2175
01:46:30,200 --> 01:46:33,439
Speaker 6: year contract. Brave Star pitcher Spencer Streyder could throw in

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01:46:33,479 --> 01:46:36,120
Speaker 6: at least one spring training game next month after elbow

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01:46:36,160 --> 01:46:39,360
Speaker 6: surgery a year ago. Could pitch in April. Rangers pitcher

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01:46:39,479 --> 01:46:42,360
Speaker 6: Jacob de Grom through his first bullpen session of training camp.

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Speaker 6: He came back from Tommy John surgery late last season.

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01:46:45,479 --> 01:46:48,880
Speaker 6: In late night college hoops at Utah, the Utes beat

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Speaker 6: number seventeen Kansas seventy four to sixty seven. Texas at

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Speaker 6: home beat number fifteen Kentucky eighty two to seventy eight

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Speaker 6: Kentucky in Conference six and six Number one Auburn a

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Speaker 6: winner at number two Alabama ninety four eighty five. Three

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Speaker 6: weeks left in the men's basketball season regular season Auburn

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Speaker 6: two end the campaign will be hosting Alabama. By the way,

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Speaker 6: Auburn today led nine to nothing early on three three pointers.

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01:47:13,600 --> 01:47:15,800
Speaker 6: Bama was playing uphill the rest of the day. They

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Speaker 6: were down nine at the half. Wins in the top

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Speaker 6: ten for Florida and duke for Texas, A and M

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Speaker 6: and Iowa State, but perdue ranks seventh lost at home

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Speaker 6: to sixteenth rank Wisconsin ninety four to eighty four as

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01:47:27,160 --> 01:47:30,400
Speaker 6: the Badger scored fifty eight points in the second half,

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Speaker 6: and Purdue lost its other game this week as well,

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Speaker 6: at first place Michigan.

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Speaker 2: Back to you, Thank you very much, Steve Sagre. Every

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Speaker 2: great evening Sagreb be back tomorrow. Arnie Spanier, Chris Plank,

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Speaker 2: Willard ephrom Slam. We are tours tomorrow. We're taking you

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Speaker 2: up till two am Eastern time here on Fox Sports Radio.

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Speaker 2: We referenced it just a second ago, but a little

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Speaker 2: bit of a quieter week post Super Bowl. Everybody got

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Speaker 2: off their Super Bowl takes and not a ton happening

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01:47:56,840 --> 01:48:01,200
Speaker 2: from there. However, it was interesting Dak Scott asked about

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Speaker 2: the state of the Dallas Cowboys. Here is what Dak

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Speaker 2: had to say.

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Speaker 8: I feel like we could bee with the Eagles and

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01:48:07,240 --> 01:48:09,680
Speaker 8: beat him for the most part when we played them.

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Speaker 8: I don't want to say, check the record when the

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Speaker 8: other guy's holding the trophy right now. Credit to them,

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01:48:14,439 --> 01:48:16,280
Speaker 8: they've earned and they deserved it by all means.

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Speaker 6: But very close.

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Speaker 8: Especially even watched the NFC game with the NFC Championship

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01:48:19,960 --> 01:48:22,839
Speaker 8: and those two teams, teams that we battled against each

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Speaker 8: and every year a couple of times, and as I said,

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Speaker 8: feel confident about we've gotten the better part each and

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Speaker 8: every time. To see them just see in a sense

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01:48:29,360 --> 01:48:31,920
Speaker 8: of dominating fashion. Credit to them. It's our turning us

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Speaker 8: on us.

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Speaker 2: So let me ask you, Jamar I mean, listen, if

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Speaker 2: he went out and said, oh, compared to those guys,

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Speaker 2: we got no chance. I mean, that's clearly not what

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Speaker 2: the fan base wants to hear. But the last time

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Speaker 2: we saw Dak on a sideline, it was against the

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Speaker 2: Falcons before he got hurt, and I think that was

2225
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Speaker 2: the day that you and I hosted Red Zone Radio

2226
01:48:50,760 --> 01:48:54,559
Speaker 2: and he was literally caught on video saying darn, we

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Speaker 2: freaking suck it. I think I'm paraphrasing a little bit

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01:48:58,120 --> 01:49:01,599
Speaker 2: here for our audience. So what do we think about

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01:49:01,640 --> 01:49:04,559
Speaker 2: Dak Skobetz from this after or from this week about

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Speaker 2: the state of the Cowboys.

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Speaker 3: I mean, you have to sound confident. It's your job

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01:49:09,960 --> 01:49:11,920
Speaker 3: to do that. You want to reassure the fan base,

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01:49:11,920 --> 01:49:15,400
Speaker 3: and you want to sound like you believe in your team.

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01:49:15,840 --> 01:49:18,639
Speaker 3: But I think you don't have to go quite that far.

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01:49:19,120 --> 01:49:21,000
Speaker 3: I think it was that he kept on talking, and

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Speaker 3: actually the more he kept talking, the less I felt

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Speaker 3: like he believed what he was saying, because he kept

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01:49:26,920 --> 01:49:28,599
Speaker 3: trying to credit that Well, I get it, they're bad.

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01:49:28,600 --> 01:49:31,240
Speaker 3: They're good, but you know we're coming. But but they're good,

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Speaker 3: but we're coming, and it's about to be our time.

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01:49:33,760 --> 01:49:36,400
Speaker 3: I think you can just say, look, man, last couple

2242
01:49:36,400 --> 01:49:38,000
Speaker 3: of years haven't been when we wanted him to be.

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01:49:38,280 --> 01:49:40,719
Speaker 3: Still a lot of talented players on this football team.

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01:49:41,120 --> 01:49:44,080
Speaker 3: We're coming. We know, you know, we got we got

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Speaker 3: some room to grow, and all this kind of stuff,

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01:49:45,760 --> 01:49:49,240
Speaker 3: like you can you can say something where you where

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01:49:49,240 --> 01:49:54,640
Speaker 3: you come across as confident and hungry while also cognizant

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01:49:54,680 --> 01:49:57,599
Speaker 3: of where you actually are. And the problem for Dak

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01:49:57,640 --> 01:50:02,560
Speaker 3: Prescott right now is that your head coach is Brian Schottenheimer,

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Speaker 3: and the press conference with Brian Schottenheimer and Jerry Jones

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01:50:07,840 --> 01:50:10,960
Speaker 3: was all about Jerry Jones and not at all about

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01:50:10,960 --> 01:50:13,960
Speaker 3: your head coach. And so many of the things that

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01:50:14,000 --> 01:50:16,280
Speaker 3: are being said, whether it's from Michael Parsons or here

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01:50:16,320 --> 01:50:20,720
Speaker 3: from Dak and all this, all of this sounds phony.

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Speaker 3: It all sounds fake, like there's there's not a there's

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Speaker 3: no there there. This is kind of the way I

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01:50:27,800 --> 01:50:30,400
Speaker 3: hear like when I hear this, just like, Dak, don't

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01:50:30,439 --> 01:50:32,880
Speaker 3: say so much, man, like you don't I know what

2259
01:50:32,920 --> 01:50:35,160
Speaker 3: you are trying to do here. Just say, hey, man,

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Speaker 3: we got a good football team. We're gonna come out,

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01:50:37,439 --> 01:50:39,160
Speaker 3: We're gonna come out hungry, We're gonna have a better

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01:50:39,200 --> 01:50:41,080
Speaker 3: year next year, Like say whatever you want to say,

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01:50:41,320 --> 01:50:43,040
Speaker 3: and then go on the field and let your let

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01:50:43,080 --> 01:50:45,519
Speaker 3: your planing do this. Like, I don't think you needed

2265
01:50:45,560 --> 01:50:49,240
Speaker 3: to go into this long soliloquy about yeah, man, we're close.

2266
01:50:49,280 --> 01:50:51,759
Speaker 3: We've watched them, we beat them, Like yeah, that's cool, man.

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01:50:52,080 --> 01:50:54,240
Speaker 3: Every team in the league has beaten every other team

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Speaker 3: at some point in the past. Like that has nothing

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01:50:57,439 --> 01:50:59,840
Speaker 3: to do with a price of tea in China, Like

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01:50:59,840 --> 01:51:03,040
Speaker 3: we we can find a different way to go about

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Speaker 3: this discussion. And I mean, you know, Dak has he's

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01:51:07,040 --> 01:51:09,040
Speaker 3: gonna have a microphone in front of him a lot

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01:51:09,040 --> 01:51:12,920
Speaker 3: of times, and probably those are not the best words

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Speaker 3: that he's ever said. And I'm sure he would probably

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01:51:14,960 --> 01:51:17,439
Speaker 3: agree with that. But I definitely feel like the more

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01:51:17,520 --> 01:51:20,960
Speaker 3: he talked, the more obvious it was how far they

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01:51:21,000 --> 01:51:24,519
Speaker 3: actually have to go, because he couldn't stop talking. And

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01:51:24,560 --> 01:51:26,200
Speaker 3: that's the only way to like make who are you

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01:51:26,240 --> 01:51:28,600
Speaker 3: trying to convince here, Dak? I think you're trying to

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01:51:28,600 --> 01:51:29,439
Speaker 3: convince yourself.

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Speaker 2: I think so too. Dallas Cowboys not very good right.

2282
01:51:34,600 --> 01:51:37,599
Speaker 3: Now fighting Shottenheimer's man o, my god.

2283
01:51:38,439 --> 01:51:41,920
Speaker 2: They hired the offensive coordinator off a terrible team who

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01:51:42,000 --> 01:51:44,840
Speaker 2: didn't even call plays, but we got listen, we got

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Speaker 2: all August, September, October, November, January.

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Speaker 3: Fili Ki Wellman, we have we already mentioned Matt Patricia.

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01:51:51,000 --> 01:51:53,400
Speaker 3: I mean Ohio State had become less likable.

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Speaker 2: Wow, well we could discuss that. Next one segment left

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Speaker 2: Fox Sports. Are you welcome back? Everybody? Fox Sports radio

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Speaker 2: er tords Jason Martin, broadcasting live from the tai Iraq

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Speaker 2: dot Com studios, taken you up til two am Eastern.

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Speaker 2: Bernie Frado of The Bernie Fratto Show will follow us,

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Speaker 2: and my goodness, very excited to hear what Bernie has

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01:52:15,880 --> 01:52:22,760
Speaker 2: to say about everything. So for the break, j Mars

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01:52:22,880 --> 01:52:25,240
Speaker 2: just threw something out there. You know, we don't you know,

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01:52:25,320 --> 01:52:28,120
Speaker 2: it's February. We don't talk a ton of college football

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Speaker 2: in this window, and I don't think we would necessarily

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Speaker 2: if Ohio State had just so happened to hire a

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Speaker 2: defensive coordinator. Ohio State won the National Championship about a

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01:52:39,520 --> 01:52:44,800
Speaker 2: month or so ago, but they had to replace both coordinators.

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Speaker 2: Chip Kelly goes to the NFL. By the way, J

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Speaker 2: mart did you see what Chip Kelly is gonna make

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Speaker 2: to be the Raiders offensive coordinator. No, he is going

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01:52:53,120 --> 01:53:00,800
Speaker 2: to make six million dollars to be a coordinator. It's like, yeah,

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01:53:00,800 --> 01:53:02,640
Speaker 2: because because it came out and it's like, oh, I

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01:53:02,640 --> 01:53:05,479
Speaker 2: thought Chip Kelly and Ryan Day were best friends. Why

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01:53:05,520 --> 01:53:08,120
Speaker 2: would you bail on your best friend? And it's like, well,

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01:53:08,120 --> 01:53:12,360
Speaker 2: he's making six million dollars. It's like, you know, that's why.

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Speaker 3: Quarterback gonna beat hip. He might.

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01:53:15,880 --> 01:53:17,880
Speaker 2: I mean, maybe that's what they're paying him for. To

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01:53:18,479 --> 01:53:20,200
Speaker 2: you gonna have to take a couple of snaps under center.

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01:53:20,520 --> 01:53:23,280
Speaker 2: I mean, listen, I spend money how you want. I know,

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01:53:23,320 --> 01:53:26,360
Speaker 2: the NFL is printing money. Six million dollars for a

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01:53:26,479 --> 01:53:31,840
Speaker 2: coordinator is crazy. But anyway, uh so, Jim Kelly's gone.

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01:53:32,680 --> 01:53:35,799
Speaker 2: But I'll say this too, Jim Knowles the defensive coordator

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Speaker 2: leaving for Penn State. That's certainly very interesting.

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Speaker 3: Yes it is.

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Speaker 2: Do you want to I don't know if you have

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Speaker 2: any Jim Knowles tanks.

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Speaker 3: I just find there's not. I mean, obviously, Jim Knowles

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Speaker 3: is a name that that carries some weight right now,

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Speaker 3: and Penn State already had a lot of talent. Now

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01:53:48,439 --> 01:53:51,360
Speaker 3: they're gonna lose Abdul Carter and but I mean they're

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01:53:52,000 --> 01:53:53,960
Speaker 3: They're a team that is fielded a good defense for

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Speaker 3: quite some time, and so you're adding a very smart

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Speaker 3: defensive mind. So that's just gonna make been more formidable there.

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Speaker 3: But the question marks about Penn State are going to

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01:54:04,240 --> 01:54:06,080
Speaker 3: be about the offense, how many points they can score,

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01:54:06,160 --> 01:54:08,760
Speaker 3: and whether or not you can take all or to

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Speaker 3: the next level by giving him some talent on the

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01:54:11,240 --> 01:54:13,200
Speaker 3: wide receiver side of the ball so that he doesn't

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01:54:13,200 --> 01:54:15,599
Speaker 3: have to rely on those two running backs all the time,

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01:54:16,360 --> 01:54:18,599
Speaker 3: and you know, his growth is going to determine where

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01:54:18,600 --> 01:54:20,960
Speaker 3: they go. Their defense wasn't their problem, but they certainly

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Speaker 3: got a nice name.

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Speaker 2: They certainly did. And in Jim Knowles's place, leaving the

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01:54:28,360 --> 01:54:35,080
Speaker 2: Ohio State for Penn State, Matt Patricia. Yeah, the rocket scientist.

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01:54:36,160 --> 01:54:36,480
Speaker 3: Say what?

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01:54:36,800 --> 01:54:39,520
Speaker 2: He was the defensive coordinator for three Super Bowls for

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01:54:39,560 --> 01:54:42,520
Speaker 2: the New England Patriots. They won two of them. Wasn't

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01:54:42,520 --> 01:54:44,880
Speaker 2: a very good head coach. Then he came back to

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01:54:44,880 --> 01:54:47,160
Speaker 2: New England. They put him in charge of the offense,

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01:54:47,200 --> 01:54:48,800
Speaker 2: which is more of a Bill Belichick thing than a

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01:54:48,840 --> 01:54:54,480
Speaker 2: Matt Patricia thing. But but yeah, Matt Patricia, new defensive coordinator.

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01:54:54,520 --> 01:54:57,360
Speaker 2: Where were you and what did you think of that one.

2346
01:54:57,400 --> 01:54:58,959
Speaker 2: When that one crossed the news desk.

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01:54:59,080 --> 01:55:00,800
Speaker 3: I just kind of laughed. I was just like, man,

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01:55:00,800 --> 01:55:04,040
Speaker 3: when you think of Patricia after his first run in

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01:55:04,120 --> 01:55:07,320
Speaker 3: New England, when he went to Detroit and the stuff

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01:55:07,360 --> 01:55:12,040
Speaker 3: that the Lions players had to say about him, the

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01:55:12,040 --> 01:55:15,120
Speaker 3: ones that left and went elsewhere, and just everything about

2352
01:55:15,160 --> 01:55:19,640
Speaker 3: that tenure, the bloom fell off that roads big time,

2353
01:55:20,560 --> 01:55:24,800
Speaker 3: and like nothing good was really said about him. And

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01:55:24,840 --> 01:55:26,560
Speaker 3: now he gets to Ohio State, and immediately I was

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01:55:26,640 --> 01:55:28,200
Speaker 3: just like, man, if you're not an Ohio State ban

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01:55:28,280 --> 01:55:30,480
Speaker 3: you probably don't like Ohio State very much. That I

2357
01:55:30,480 --> 01:55:32,720
Speaker 3: think that feels like a genuine consensus. It's kind of

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01:55:32,720 --> 01:55:34,600
Speaker 3: the same thing with an Alabama or some of those

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01:55:34,680 --> 01:55:38,240
Speaker 3: kind of schools. But Patricia doesn't make it easier to

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01:55:38,320 --> 01:55:41,800
Speaker 3: root for Ohio State for most of those same people,

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01:55:41,840 --> 01:55:43,760
Speaker 3: is what I'm saying. Like, I think this just puts

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01:55:43,760 --> 01:55:46,440
Speaker 3: a bigger target on their back. Like I mean, yes,

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01:55:46,480 --> 01:55:48,160
Speaker 3: you lost the Chip Kelly of it all, and some

2364
01:55:48,240 --> 01:55:52,600
Speaker 3: people didn't like Chip, but I think Patricia has a

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01:55:52,680 --> 01:55:56,680
Speaker 3: much worse reputation than Chip Kelly does. So I just

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01:55:56,760 --> 01:55:57,920
Speaker 3: kind of look at that and I'm just like, man,

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01:55:58,040 --> 01:56:00,720
Speaker 3: you want to create a villain you have, because like

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01:56:00,880 --> 01:56:04,760
Speaker 3: Patricia is not somebody that's gonna endere Ohio State to

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01:56:04,840 --> 01:56:06,200
Speaker 3: anybody that's on the fence.

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01:56:07,360 --> 01:56:12,520
Speaker 2: I don't disagree. I'm just curious. Like you know, sometimes

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01:56:12,600 --> 01:56:15,600
Speaker 2: these big names go to like high profile spots and

2372
01:56:15,640 --> 01:56:18,200
Speaker 2: you're like, well, it's gotta work, and it just doesn't.

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01:56:19,160 --> 01:56:22,840
Speaker 2: I can't think of necessarily anybody specific that would come

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01:56:22,880 --> 01:56:25,160
Speaker 2: to mind, but it's like, oh, you know, he failed

2375
01:56:25,160 --> 01:56:26,880
Speaker 2: as a head coach or he failed as this, but

2376
01:56:26,920 --> 01:56:29,200
Speaker 2: he'll be great there. And it's like no, sometimes guys

2377
01:56:29,200 --> 01:56:31,880
Speaker 2: are just washed up and I'll be curious there. I mean,

2378
01:56:31,920 --> 01:56:34,120
Speaker 2: it is worth noting he was completely out of football

2379
01:56:34,160 --> 01:56:36,080
Speaker 2: this year after he got fired by the Patriots. Now,

2380
01:56:36,360 --> 01:56:37,880
Speaker 2: you know part of it. Maybe he doesn't have a

2381
01:56:37,960 --> 01:56:43,440
Speaker 2: huge network outside of Belichick and Belichick's tree, but it

2382
01:56:43,480 --> 01:56:46,600
Speaker 2: isn't It's certainly interesting. It's been kind of interesting too

2383
01:56:46,640 --> 01:56:49,240
Speaker 2: to see kind of the Belichick crew kind of land

2384
01:56:49,280 --> 01:56:51,280
Speaker 2: all over the place. You know, McDaniels is back in

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01:56:51,320 --> 01:56:56,600
Speaker 2: New England, Steve Belichick is with with with Belichick in

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01:56:57,520 --> 01:57:01,560
Speaker 2: North Carolina. It's just just an interesting, interesting couple months.

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01:57:02,080 --> 01:57:04,040
Speaker 3: I mean, Jim Trussell is pretty interesting too, if you

2388
01:57:04,080 --> 01:57:05,960
Speaker 3: just want to stay with Ohio State. The fact that

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01:57:06,040 --> 01:57:10,240
Speaker 3: Jim Trussell is now the Lieutenant governor of Ohio is

2390
01:57:10,680 --> 01:57:15,680
Speaker 3: fascinating to me. Like, that's who Mike DeWine picked to

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01:57:15,760 --> 01:57:18,040
Speaker 3: be the lieutenant governor. He was confirmed thirty one to

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01:57:18,120 --> 01:57:21,400
Speaker 3: one in the Ohio Senate and sixty eight twenty seven

2393
01:57:21,440 --> 01:57:26,080
Speaker 3: in the House. So I mean, Jim Trussell, who you

2394
01:57:26,120 --> 01:57:29,920
Speaker 3: know at one point was hit with a scandal, is

2395
01:57:29,960 --> 01:57:32,240
Speaker 3: now the lieutenant governor of the state of Ohio. We

2396
01:57:32,280 --> 01:57:35,440
Speaker 3: always said that the college football coach in some of

2397
01:57:35,480 --> 01:57:38,960
Speaker 3: these states where the team is big, is more important

2398
01:57:39,000 --> 01:57:42,120
Speaker 3: than the politicians. Well now you have former college football

2399
01:57:42,160 --> 01:57:45,720
Speaker 3: coach that won a national championship there that is a politician.

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01:57:45,960 --> 01:57:46,880
Speaker 3: So here we go.

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01:57:47,080 --> 01:57:48,680
Speaker 2: Tommy Tubberville in Alabama too.

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01:57:48,760 --> 01:57:49,680
Speaker 6: Right, that's right now.

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01:57:49,880 --> 01:57:52,840
Speaker 2: So all right, I don't have very much else. It's

2404
01:57:52,840 --> 01:57:53,600
Speaker 2: been a fun show.

2405
01:57:53,800 --> 01:57:55,680
Speaker 3: Uh you'll be watching the All Star Game.

2406
01:57:56,560 --> 01:57:59,040
Speaker 2: Uh, well, one, I'll be traveling, But two, I would

2407
01:57:59,080 --> 01:58:02,480
Speaker 2: I would not spend thirty seconds even considering.

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01:58:02,120 --> 01:58:03,840
Speaker 3: I'm gonna have to probably tune in because me and

2409
01:58:03,880 --> 01:58:06,480
Speaker 3: No we're hosting two pros on Monday morning.

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01:58:07,560 --> 01:58:10,240
Speaker 2: Bro, you have three hours of content right there. I mean.

2411
01:58:11,640 --> 01:58:13,720
Speaker 3: Nothing to recap the entire game.

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01:58:13,800 --> 01:58:16,320
Speaker 2: No, not recap it, just what a debacle it's become,

2413
01:58:16,920 --> 01:58:18,760
Speaker 2: Like how embarrassing it is.

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01:58:18,800 --> 01:58:20,120
Speaker 3: I think I'm just gonna be like, you know what

2415
01:58:20,200 --> 01:58:22,120
Speaker 3: I did think about. I thought about how much I

2416
01:58:22,200 --> 01:58:24,600
Speaker 3: enjoyed listening to Hub Brown and how sad I am

2417
01:58:25,400 --> 01:58:28,320
Speaker 3: that he's finally stepped out, Like he's just an absolute

2418
01:58:28,400 --> 01:58:32,440
Speaker 3: legend and just one of the greatest announcers ever when

2419
01:58:32,480 --> 01:58:35,040
Speaker 3: it comes to just color and explaining basketball in a

2420
01:58:35,080 --> 01:58:38,280
Speaker 3: way that anybody can grasp. He just understood it in

2421
01:58:38,320 --> 01:58:40,720
Speaker 3: a different way, and he was like a consummate gentleman.

2422
01:58:41,160 --> 01:58:42,600
Speaker 3: And just the fact that he was doing it in

2423
01:58:42,640 --> 01:58:46,080
Speaker 3: his nineties. What a life, What a life?

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01:58:46,800 --> 01:58:50,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, heb Brown has called his last NBA game. That

2425
01:58:50,280 --> 01:58:52,920
Speaker 2: was last weekend. So yeah, NBA lost another good one.

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01:58:52,920 --> 01:58:54,400
Speaker 2: We got to get out here. When I think the crew,

2427
01:58:54,840 --> 01:58:57,840
Speaker 2: Mary Mack on the board, producer Brie Steve Di Seger,

2428
01:58:57,880 --> 01:59:00,879
Speaker 2: from my partner Jason Martin. I'mried torus, do me have America?

2429
01:59:01,080 --> 01:59:03,120
Speaker 2: You wanna do us a favor? Make sure to download

2430
01:59:03,120 --> 01:59:05,920
Speaker 2: the podcast. It will be available shortly after we go

2431
01:59:05,960 --> 01:59:08,680
Speaker 2: off air. Talked a lot of NBA All Star weekend

2432
01:59:08,720 --> 01:59:12,320
Speaker 2: being a debacle, NFL Super Bowl and much more. I

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01:59:12,400 --> 01:59:14,400
Speaker 2: want to thank you guys again for listening. I want

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01:59:14,440 --> 01:59:16,560
Speaker 2: to thank the crew, and now it's time to toss

2435
01:59:16,600 --> 01:59:18,800
Speaker 2: it over our buddy Bernie Fratto of The Bernie Freddo Show.

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Speaker 2: We'll be back next Saturday. This is Fox Sports Ordio.