1 00:00:02,759 --> 00:00:05,200 Speaker 1: The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 2 00:00:05,240 --> 00:00:06,800 Speaker 1: and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. 3 00:00:09,119 --> 00:00:10,079 Speaker 2: Cowboys. 4 00:00:11,560 --> 00:00:16,560 Speaker 3: This is Girls Talk Boys Talk, presented by Invisi Line, 5 00:00:16,720 --> 00:00:21,160 Speaker 3: trusted by over five hundred NFL players for their winning smiles, 6 00:00:21,480 --> 00:00:26,400 Speaker 3: and broadcasting live from Dallas Cowboys World headquarters at the Star. 7 00:00:27,240 --> 00:00:30,640 Speaker 3: Now your host, Nicole Hutchison. 8 00:00:32,040 --> 00:00:35,040 Speaker 4: Hello, Cowboys Nation, Welcome in a Girls Talk Boys Talk 9 00:00:35,080 --> 00:00:38,360 Speaker 4: presented by Visa Line. Here in the SWBC studio, I'm 10 00:00:38,400 --> 00:00:43,560 Speaker 4: Nicole Hutcheson alongside Aisha Morrison, Jess Navares, and Brianna Aldridge. 11 00:00:43,960 --> 00:00:46,320 Speaker 5: What's up, ladies, how y'all doing on? 12 00:00:47,000 --> 00:00:49,600 Speaker 6: I know, I was like, huh sorry, I was aside 13 00:00:49,640 --> 00:00:52,160 Speaker 6: my chair. I was adjusting my chair, didn't know which 14 00:00:52,200 --> 00:00:52,760 Speaker 6: way to look. 15 00:00:53,000 --> 00:00:54,680 Speaker 7: It didn't Sorry, we're awake. 16 00:00:54,800 --> 00:00:57,360 Speaker 6: We're awake here, baby, I'm awake. 17 00:00:57,560 --> 00:00:58,200 Speaker 5: Are you positive? 18 00:00:58,200 --> 00:00:59,960 Speaker 6: I've had a lot of coffee today. I'm awake. 19 00:01:00,200 --> 00:01:01,240 Speaker 5: I've got something for that. 20 00:01:01,800 --> 00:01:05,720 Speaker 6: We know, save it, save it, say. 21 00:01:05,440 --> 00:01:08,360 Speaker 5: Thank you, jazz, Let's go. You didn't hear that, did you? 22 00:01:08,480 --> 00:01:09,440 Speaker 6: I did? 23 00:01:09,959 --> 00:01:12,360 Speaker 5: I think we got into play when don't do it? 24 00:01:12,520 --> 00:01:14,920 Speaker 5: We got that's great. 25 00:01:15,040 --> 00:01:21,080 Speaker 6: Actually, I'm not awake. I think we need it live yourself. Yeah, 26 00:01:21,160 --> 00:01:22,640 Speaker 6: you know what time it is? What time is it? 27 00:01:22,720 --> 00:01:26,080 Speaker 6: We got I knew, I knew would bother you should 28 00:01:26,120 --> 00:01:27,400 Speaker 6: That's what I told you do it. 29 00:01:27,600 --> 00:01:28,800 Speaker 7: My poor tonight is. 30 00:01:31,080 --> 00:01:33,840 Speaker 6: Not the tonight every veteran out there. Girl. 31 00:01:34,800 --> 00:01:38,080 Speaker 4: A lot going on here in the coaching world early 32 00:01:38,120 --> 00:01:39,640 Speaker 4: in the NFL right now. 33 00:01:40,400 --> 00:01:42,679 Speaker 5: But let's talk about the coaching for sure. 34 00:01:43,000 --> 00:01:45,000 Speaker 4: I want to go to Jess just give us a 35 00:01:45,000 --> 00:01:48,720 Speaker 4: little quick update on who's been hired, who's not been hired, 36 00:01:48,800 --> 00:01:49,160 Speaker 4: and the. 37 00:01:49,240 --> 00:01:54,080 Speaker 6: Updates on cow Okay, so we're gonna do this every 38 00:01:54,120 --> 00:01:57,120 Speaker 6: week and I made a very comprehensive list on my 39 00:01:57,200 --> 00:02:00,560 Speaker 6: notes app. So the Chicago Bears higher to the very 40 00:02:00,600 --> 00:02:04,279 Speaker 6: sought after Ben Johnson, great hire by them. New England 41 00:02:04,360 --> 00:02:10,120 Speaker 6: Patriots have hired Mike Verbell Cowboys TVD, Jacksonville Jaguars TVD, 42 00:02:10,280 --> 00:02:13,520 Speaker 6: Las Vegas Raiders TVD, New Orleans Saints TVD, New York 43 00:02:13,600 --> 00:02:17,040 Speaker 6: Jets TVD. And yeah, that's where we are, guys, that's 44 00:02:17,040 --> 00:02:19,080 Speaker 6: where we are in the head coaching cycle. 45 00:02:19,280 --> 00:02:19,840 Speaker 7: A lot of. 46 00:02:19,840 --> 00:02:22,800 Speaker 6: TVDS, but more more TBD. 47 00:02:22,880 --> 00:02:27,560 Speaker 8: I feel like here in Dallas other places, absolutely. 48 00:02:26,919 --> 00:02:30,280 Speaker 4: That big TVD is on the head coaching position that 49 00:02:30,560 --> 00:02:34,040 Speaker 4: the Cowboys have not filled just yet, but some news 50 00:02:34,120 --> 00:02:39,160 Speaker 4: the latest Brian Schottenheimer, the current offensive coordinator, has uh. 51 00:02:39,080 --> 00:02:42,280 Speaker 5: Is expected to get an interview. Thoughts. What do y'all 52 00:02:42,280 --> 00:02:43,320 Speaker 5: think about. 53 00:02:43,040 --> 00:02:47,720 Speaker 4: Brian Schottenheimer possibly serving as the Cowboys head coach in 54 00:02:47,800 --> 00:02:48,600 Speaker 4: the future. 55 00:02:48,680 --> 00:02:56,600 Speaker 9: I've been dying in I was a surprise, I will say, 56 00:02:56,600 --> 00:02:59,440 Speaker 9: when I started to see the reports as the not 57 00:02:59,480 --> 00:03:03,120 Speaker 9: only any interviewed, but emerging as the top candidate in the. 58 00:03:03,080 --> 00:03:06,360 Speaker 8: Top But to be clear, I feel like every week, 59 00:03:06,480 --> 00:03:09,200 Speaker 8: like last week, was Kellam Moore top candidate until we 60 00:03:09,240 --> 00:03:11,840 Speaker 8: see them all, it's kind of hard to like, you know, 61 00:03:12,160 --> 00:03:15,280 Speaker 8: it's just the top to us that week in my opinion, 62 00:03:15,919 --> 00:03:17,960 Speaker 8: because I can't sit here and say the top candidate 63 00:03:18,040 --> 00:03:20,280 Speaker 8: until we see all of the candidates. And like we 64 00:03:20,320 --> 00:03:22,640 Speaker 8: said last week, Cowboys are a little bit behind in 65 00:03:22,680 --> 00:03:26,239 Speaker 8: the ball. But personally, when I look at the Cowboys 66 00:03:26,280 --> 00:03:28,840 Speaker 8: and I look at what was available and the fact 67 00:03:28,840 --> 00:03:30,960 Speaker 8: that we didn't try to go for some of the 68 00:03:31,000 --> 00:03:33,880 Speaker 8: top coaches on the market that every other league is 69 00:03:33,880 --> 00:03:36,040 Speaker 8: fighting for. Like we'll get into it later, but like 70 00:03:36,280 --> 00:03:38,480 Speaker 8: Ben Jonson, Aaron Glenn, everybody knows. 71 00:03:38,360 --> 00:03:39,680 Speaker 7: Those were the top two candidates. 72 00:03:40,120 --> 00:03:42,640 Speaker 8: And to see the cowboys, not even like try to 73 00:03:42,800 --> 00:03:44,080 Speaker 8: go either way. 74 00:03:43,960 --> 00:03:45,000 Speaker 6: Or call them. 75 00:03:45,880 --> 00:03:49,640 Speaker 8: It's just crazy in my opinion, because now we have 76 00:03:49,720 --> 00:03:54,760 Speaker 8: a candidate no disrespect, but like who is going after. 77 00:03:56,880 --> 00:03:59,680 Speaker 5: Yeah, no, that's a valid statement, that's the only thing. 78 00:04:00,120 --> 00:04:03,480 Speaker 7: But that's intentional too. They don't like to compete. And 79 00:04:04,880 --> 00:04:05,760 Speaker 7: I'm not gonna go there. 80 00:04:05,840 --> 00:04:08,640 Speaker 5: Yeah we're gonna We're gonna hold that real fast. Just 81 00:04:08,680 --> 00:04:09,080 Speaker 5: go ahead. 82 00:04:09,360 --> 00:04:11,440 Speaker 6: You know it's funny because you said you weren't you 83 00:04:11,520 --> 00:04:14,440 Speaker 6: were surprised. I was not. I was like looking at 84 00:04:14,480 --> 00:04:17,000 Speaker 6: my stuff. I was looking at my clock. I said, well, 85 00:04:17,240 --> 00:04:20,400 Speaker 6: when's the time coming? Like it's only a matter of time. 86 00:04:20,520 --> 00:04:23,839 Speaker 6: And and how this works too, is I knew when 87 00:04:23,880 --> 00:04:26,800 Speaker 6: the name got brought up, of who's familiar in the building, 88 00:04:27,080 --> 00:04:30,200 Speaker 6: who knows the guys, he would be like the first 89 00:04:30,680 --> 00:04:32,880 Speaker 6: first one that was mentioned, So I knew it was 90 00:04:32,920 --> 00:04:35,160 Speaker 6: a matter of time. Now, I do agree what you're 91 00:04:35,200 --> 00:04:38,200 Speaker 6: saying as far as him being the top contender of 92 00:04:38,240 --> 00:04:41,719 Speaker 6: the week, because it's the news cycle, it's knew, it's fresh, 93 00:04:41,760 --> 00:04:44,000 Speaker 6: it keeps you in the headlines, and it keeps the 94 00:04:44,040 --> 00:04:47,520 Speaker 6: shock value very much like would they do that? Are 95 00:04:47,520 --> 00:04:49,760 Speaker 6: they going to? It just keeps the Cowboys in the conversation, 96 00:04:49,880 --> 00:04:52,640 Speaker 6: and you know that's how it goes. So for me, 97 00:04:52,720 --> 00:04:59,200 Speaker 6: I'm not surprised. I definitely think that no disrespect of course, 98 00:04:59,360 --> 00:05:03,200 Speaker 6: I just think there's better options if you're wanting to 99 00:05:03,279 --> 00:05:07,520 Speaker 6: build a winning team right off the bat. And I 100 00:05:07,960 --> 00:05:09,599 Speaker 6: just again I go back to this should have been 101 00:05:09,640 --> 00:05:11,680 Speaker 6: done a couple of weeks ago. Putting that list together 102 00:05:11,720 --> 00:05:13,880 Speaker 6: on my notes app, I was like, Wow, the Cowboys 103 00:05:13,880 --> 00:05:17,720 Speaker 6: have significantly fewer interviews than most of these other teams 104 00:05:17,760 --> 00:05:20,800 Speaker 6: that all of the other teams I'm gonna say that 105 00:05:20,880 --> 00:05:22,840 Speaker 6: are in the same position as them without a head coach. 106 00:05:23,839 --> 00:05:28,599 Speaker 7: Yeah, the band, No, I don't have nothing stressful to say. 107 00:05:28,760 --> 00:05:32,440 Speaker 6: I'm not this is all stressful. What do you mean, girl, 108 00:05:32,640 --> 00:05:33,640 Speaker 6: this is perfectly fat. 109 00:05:33,920 --> 00:05:34,080 Speaker 9: Yeah. 110 00:05:34,120 --> 00:05:36,080 Speaker 10: I mean back to my original point with Renee and 111 00:05:36,120 --> 00:05:38,960 Speaker 10: talking about the fact that Ben Johnson is first of 112 00:05:39,000 --> 00:05:42,520 Speaker 10: all Ben, the Ben Johnson situation doesn't just affect the 113 00:05:42,520 --> 00:05:44,720 Speaker 10: Cowboys and the fact that they didn't pursue him, that 114 00:05:44,800 --> 00:05:46,920 Speaker 10: also affects Mike McCarthy, who. 115 00:05:46,880 --> 00:05:48,680 Speaker 7: I thought was in the driver's heat for their job. 116 00:05:48,720 --> 00:05:50,440 Speaker 10: And then Ben Johnson was like, I'm just gonna go 117 00:05:50,600 --> 00:05:55,440 Speaker 10: this just gonna ease on brother the brother, and so 118 00:05:55,520 --> 00:05:57,960 Speaker 10: it also puts Mike McCarthy in a weird spot as well, 119 00:05:58,080 --> 00:06:01,040 Speaker 10: where he told the cowboys, I'm out of here. It 120 00:06:01,120 --> 00:06:02,880 Speaker 10: sounds like you've been talking to the bears and the 121 00:06:02,960 --> 00:06:04,280 Speaker 10: bears was looking at the other girl. 122 00:06:04,920 --> 00:06:14,520 Speaker 7: Lord, have mercy here. It's today anyway, anyway, back to task. 123 00:06:15,120 --> 00:06:17,839 Speaker 10: So for me, it doesn't surprise me in a sense 124 00:06:17,880 --> 00:06:19,840 Speaker 10: of we already know the Conbins like to stay in house. 125 00:06:19,880 --> 00:06:23,920 Speaker 7: They want they're trying to keep it. I'm torn because. 126 00:06:23,680 --> 00:06:26,279 Speaker 10: I do to some degree, and we talked about it ladies. 127 00:06:26,279 --> 00:06:29,400 Speaker 10: Here is that there is a level of continuity that 128 00:06:29,520 --> 00:06:33,560 Speaker 10: is going to just be completely gone with changing a roster. 129 00:06:33,800 --> 00:06:35,760 Speaker 10: Flipping a roster essentially what you're gonna have to do, 130 00:06:36,120 --> 00:06:39,159 Speaker 10: changing the staff, completely gutting it. So it's like, Okay, 131 00:06:39,200 --> 00:06:41,599 Speaker 10: they're trying to keep him here because they maybe want 132 00:06:41,640 --> 00:06:43,680 Speaker 10: to have Dak to be familiar with this guy. 133 00:06:43,760 --> 00:06:46,039 Speaker 7: Dak has three years Libston's Country or that whatever. But 134 00:06:46,200 --> 00:06:50,960 Speaker 7: right now where you're at, you need to do something inspiring. 135 00:06:51,520 --> 00:06:52,680 Speaker 7: I'm sorry, you need to. 136 00:06:52,680 --> 00:06:55,360 Speaker 10: Do something that's gonna shoot energy back into this this 137 00:06:55,480 --> 00:06:57,960 Speaker 10: team right now. And I get that a lot of 138 00:06:58,000 --> 00:07:01,880 Speaker 10: people feel I know Dak likes Shody. Spoke about how 139 00:07:02,400 --> 00:07:04,400 Speaker 10: Shody is and I know you were out there training camp. 140 00:07:04,440 --> 00:07:07,919 Speaker 7: He's the energy he like. From my understanding, he's the 141 00:07:07,920 --> 00:07:10,320 Speaker 7: guy that gets guys ready and he wants them ready 142 00:07:10,320 --> 00:07:11,720 Speaker 7: for battle all this stuff. 143 00:07:11,760 --> 00:07:14,600 Speaker 10: But it's like for me, I just think what the 144 00:07:14,600 --> 00:07:16,320 Speaker 10: state of your where your team is right now, and 145 00:07:16,400 --> 00:07:21,080 Speaker 10: overhaul is probably best right now. And comfort they've operated 146 00:07:21,120 --> 00:07:24,400 Speaker 10: in comfort for years. It is not getting you nowhere 147 00:07:24,920 --> 00:07:28,320 Speaker 10: and this feels like a comfortable situation. 148 00:07:28,840 --> 00:07:29,119 Speaker 5: Yeah. 149 00:07:29,240 --> 00:07:32,160 Speaker 10: Yeah, not even to go into scheme and all that stuff. 150 00:07:32,160 --> 00:07:33,080 Speaker 10: We'll talk about that later. 151 00:07:33,080 --> 00:07:36,360 Speaker 5: I don't know what, because my question is is. 152 00:07:37,000 --> 00:07:37,560 Speaker 6: I don't know. 153 00:07:39,000 --> 00:07:46,679 Speaker 4: I'm sorry, why would the Cowboys consider Brian Schottenheimer or 154 00:07:46,720 --> 00:07:49,560 Speaker 4: consider him promoting him to this role? Because you look 155 00:07:49,600 --> 00:07:52,679 Speaker 4: at other guys on this coaching staff, like an Al Harris, 156 00:07:52,720 --> 00:07:56,040 Speaker 4: who has not gotten that opportunity to be even thought 157 00:07:56,080 --> 00:07:58,080 Speaker 4: about when it comes to defensive coordinator. 158 00:07:58,800 --> 00:07:59,920 Speaker 5: He's done so many. 159 00:07:59,720 --> 00:08:02,880 Speaker 4: Good things with his defense, so it's almost kind of like, Okay, 160 00:08:02,920 --> 00:08:04,760 Speaker 4: why now for Brian Schottenheimer. 161 00:08:04,880 --> 00:08:07,080 Speaker 5: He's been here, what two years? Got your twenty twenty three? 162 00:08:07,440 --> 00:08:11,120 Speaker 10: Yeah, it's interesting too because we listened to Brian Schottenheimer 163 00:08:11,360 --> 00:08:14,400 Speaker 10: and these pressers and stuff like that. And as again, 164 00:08:14,680 --> 00:08:16,920 Speaker 10: I'm looking at the film and I'm sitting up here. 165 00:08:16,840 --> 00:08:19,360 Speaker 7: Like, what are he talking about? 166 00:08:20,240 --> 00:08:20,320 Speaker 6: So? 167 00:08:20,400 --> 00:08:22,760 Speaker 7: What he talking about? They should be doing? They not doing? 168 00:08:22,920 --> 00:08:23,520 Speaker 7: So were there. 169 00:08:23,400 --> 00:08:27,800 Speaker 10: Philosophy differences between he and McCarthy? And maybe the Cowboys 170 00:08:27,800 --> 00:08:30,160 Speaker 10: feel like his philosophy. 171 00:08:29,560 --> 00:08:30,680 Speaker 7: Is more forward thinking? 172 00:08:31,200 --> 00:08:34,200 Speaker 10: Maybe, but it's just still like the feel of just 173 00:08:34,280 --> 00:08:37,600 Speaker 10: keeping these gentlemen here despite everything that's going on. 174 00:08:37,760 --> 00:08:38,400 Speaker 7: It's weird. 175 00:08:38,960 --> 00:08:41,880 Speaker 6: I just feel like I would be more comfortable with 176 00:08:41,920 --> 00:08:45,400 Speaker 6: this being the front runner of the conversation if he 177 00:08:45,600 --> 00:08:48,319 Speaker 6: was calling the place last year and you actually knew 178 00:08:48,880 --> 00:08:51,160 Speaker 6: what you were getting into, because to your point, you 179 00:08:51,160 --> 00:08:54,400 Speaker 6: don't know the philosophy, you don't know what his coaching 180 00:08:54,440 --> 00:08:57,720 Speaker 6: style is other than an OC who wasn't calling plays 181 00:08:57,800 --> 00:09:00,599 Speaker 6: like that doesn't give you a fair, I think, assessment 182 00:09:00,679 --> 00:09:02,840 Speaker 6: of the kind of head coach that he could be. 183 00:09:03,440 --> 00:09:06,199 Speaker 6: And I know he's very very highly regarded, comes from 184 00:09:06,200 --> 00:09:08,360 Speaker 6: a coaching family, and you know it kind of is 185 00:09:08,400 --> 00:09:10,280 Speaker 6: in the blood, and he's talked about that. I mean 186 00:09:10,320 --> 00:09:12,360 Speaker 6: on his arm he has faith family or is it 187 00:09:12,559 --> 00:09:15,960 Speaker 6: family football faith, something something like that on his arm. 188 00:09:16,120 --> 00:09:19,760 Speaker 6: So I don't doubt that at some point he can 189 00:09:19,840 --> 00:09:23,360 Speaker 6: be a head coach. I just I would rather have 190 00:09:23,440 --> 00:09:26,280 Speaker 6: somebody with a track record that can come in here 191 00:09:26,800 --> 00:09:30,319 Speaker 6: win and to your point, yes, pretty much build something 192 00:09:30,360 --> 00:09:32,840 Speaker 6: from the ground up, has done it before, and not 193 00:09:32,880 --> 00:09:35,200 Speaker 6: put him in a situation to possibly be set up 194 00:09:35,240 --> 00:09:40,200 Speaker 6: for failure if he doesn't exactly know how to align 195 00:09:40,240 --> 00:09:41,840 Speaker 6: pieces for a winning team next year. 196 00:09:42,720 --> 00:09:44,360 Speaker 7: I mean, he was in Seattle and they had some 197 00:09:44,440 --> 00:09:47,400 Speaker 7: success there, but he's he's just I don't know. It's 198 00:09:47,400 --> 00:09:49,120 Speaker 7: just in a way he would. 199 00:09:48,880 --> 00:09:52,640 Speaker 8: Be fresh too, and I just don't see like I 200 00:09:52,679 --> 00:09:55,880 Speaker 8: know Mike McCarthy was calling the plays, but I just 201 00:09:55,920 --> 00:09:58,200 Speaker 8: don't see somebody I don't see him as a person 202 00:09:58,240 --> 00:10:02,920 Speaker 8: who wouldn't be open to input from a guy who's 203 00:10:02,920 --> 00:10:05,200 Speaker 8: in the same room and seeing everything you see. So 204 00:10:05,360 --> 00:10:08,560 Speaker 8: in my opinion, he doesn't have the answer to what 205 00:10:08,640 --> 00:10:11,520 Speaker 8: this team's needs because he's been in this building, he 206 00:10:11,600 --> 00:10:14,280 Speaker 8: has those relationships, he's hyping up the players, and then 207 00:10:14,320 --> 00:10:19,240 Speaker 8: what we didn't get the result? And to me, I 208 00:10:19,240 --> 00:10:21,600 Speaker 8: don't I'm not overthinking it. I think it's very simple. 209 00:10:22,040 --> 00:10:24,480 Speaker 6: I think he's affordable, and I think he's. 210 00:10:24,320 --> 00:10:28,439 Speaker 8: Eager to have that opportunity and I think it's someone 211 00:10:28,840 --> 00:10:32,600 Speaker 8: that Okay, you're hired, But how do you feel if 212 00:10:32,600 --> 00:10:35,400 Speaker 8: I bring this person in, this person in, and this person, 213 00:10:36,160 --> 00:10:37,960 Speaker 8: what are you gonna say? What leverage do you have 214 00:10:38,000 --> 00:10:40,040 Speaker 8: at that point if you really want that head coaching job? 215 00:10:40,200 --> 00:10:40,600 Speaker 6: Okay? 216 00:10:40,800 --> 00:10:44,040 Speaker 8: And I think somebody, maybe El Harris might have a 217 00:10:44,080 --> 00:10:50,200 Speaker 8: little more a voice in that expect Again, notice respect 218 00:10:50,320 --> 00:10:54,880 Speaker 8: to shoddy at all, but I'm just saying personally, when 219 00:10:55,040 --> 00:10:56,640 Speaker 8: you get any any field, when. 220 00:10:56,480 --> 00:10:58,600 Speaker 6: You don't have that leverage for a job you want, 221 00:10:58,640 --> 00:11:01,240 Speaker 6: you gotta, you know, give a little more. 222 00:11:01,280 --> 00:11:04,120 Speaker 8: And I see this as a candidate who will and 223 00:11:04,320 --> 00:11:08,520 Speaker 8: there's speculation that you know, Jerry has interests in a 224 00:11:08,720 --> 00:11:13,480 Speaker 8: mister Witten as well. So I mean that we have 225 00:11:13,600 --> 00:11:15,800 Speaker 8: that that's on the table, right, Like I think a 226 00:11:15,800 --> 00:11:19,400 Speaker 8: lot of Cowboys Nation fans probably fifty fifty because there's 227 00:11:20,000 --> 00:11:22,400 Speaker 8: someone has to have a reputation coming in here. Yeah, 228 00:11:22,640 --> 00:11:26,400 Speaker 8: which is shoddy the relationship, like you said, But now okay, 229 00:11:26,600 --> 00:11:30,680 Speaker 8: if that falls through, then they still get Yeah. 230 00:11:30,520 --> 00:11:32,520 Speaker 7: Did Ben Johnson and those guys want to interview here? 231 00:11:33,120 --> 00:11:34,839 Speaker 6: And that's another thing, because. 232 00:11:34,559 --> 00:11:37,160 Speaker 10: That's on you a whole to me, when you say 233 00:11:37,240 --> 00:11:40,199 Speaker 10: what you say about and when you when you said 234 00:11:40,240 --> 00:11:44,559 Speaker 10: Shoddy is eager, may are probably eager for the opportunity. 235 00:11:45,040 --> 00:11:48,160 Speaker 10: It triggered me like, Okay, well were those other are 236 00:11:48,200 --> 00:11:49,920 Speaker 10: gentlemen not eager to come here? 237 00:11:50,360 --> 00:11:52,280 Speaker 7: Which is something that we talked about a few like 238 00:11:52,480 --> 00:11:55,319 Speaker 7: what Troy are just said, Troy Aikman just said. 239 00:11:55,840 --> 00:11:59,840 Speaker 10: And obviously Troy sees these players, these coaches, these people 240 00:12:00,080 --> 00:12:02,960 Speaker 10: all the time, like he's he's connected. So it's like 241 00:12:03,000 --> 00:12:06,400 Speaker 10: if he's saying like this is the sentiment about coaching 242 00:12:06,400 --> 00:12:07,960 Speaker 10: this team, is there. 243 00:12:07,840 --> 00:12:10,640 Speaker 7: Some validity to it? Is that why we're in this 244 00:12:10,679 --> 00:12:11,800 Speaker 7: weird limbo right now? 245 00:12:12,320 --> 00:12:12,600 Speaker 5: Is it? 246 00:12:12,640 --> 00:12:15,200 Speaker 10: Is it difficult to draw people into wanting to interview 247 00:12:15,240 --> 00:12:17,400 Speaker 10: this team. That's something that I think we're going to 248 00:12:17,440 --> 00:12:19,800 Speaker 10: see over the course of this this because of these 249 00:12:19,840 --> 00:12:21,680 Speaker 10: other coaches, just keep one of these other teams. 250 00:12:22,800 --> 00:12:23,080 Speaker 6: You can't. 251 00:12:23,320 --> 00:12:24,880 Speaker 7: That means you can't compete. 252 00:12:24,480 --> 00:12:26,280 Speaker 10: And it's gonna say a lot about what the state 253 00:12:26,320 --> 00:12:31,080 Speaker 10: of this team is. I babe, they're about to we 254 00:12:31,160 --> 00:12:32,599 Speaker 10: about to be one of the people that hire you 255 00:12:32,640 --> 00:12:34,240 Speaker 10: when you start working the next day. 256 00:12:34,880 --> 00:12:39,320 Speaker 6: I mean, that's that's crazy. But you also know, like 257 00:12:39,440 --> 00:12:44,840 Speaker 6: familiarity is just a concept that runs deep in this organization. 258 00:12:45,000 --> 00:12:48,080 Speaker 6: No matter what aspect of it. I mean, I e 259 00:12:48,240 --> 00:12:51,040 Speaker 6: look at the ez Ki Elliott situation bringing him back 260 00:12:51,120 --> 00:12:55,200 Speaker 6: like it's it's something that's comfortable here not. You know, 261 00:12:55,360 --> 00:12:57,440 Speaker 6: we don't necessarily agree with it all the time, but 262 00:12:57,480 --> 00:12:59,000 Speaker 6: I think when you're talking in terms of a head 263 00:12:59,000 --> 00:13:01,720 Speaker 6: coach that is eventually needs to come in and be 264 00:13:01,960 --> 00:13:06,080 Speaker 6: an impact maker on the spot the same day they're hired, 265 00:13:06,240 --> 00:13:09,320 Speaker 6: Like with the draft right around the corner, man, I 266 00:13:09,320 --> 00:13:11,559 Speaker 6: don't want to risk somebody who hasn't had the experience 267 00:13:11,559 --> 00:13:12,520 Speaker 6: as a head coach already. 268 00:13:12,880 --> 00:13:14,760 Speaker 4: Well, there's a lot of unknown of whether or not 269 00:13:15,160 --> 00:13:16,840 Speaker 4: Brian Schottenheimer will be the answer. 270 00:13:17,280 --> 00:13:18,520 Speaker 7: There's a lot of unknown. 271 00:13:18,200 --> 00:13:20,720 Speaker 4: Of who will be the next head coach here in Dallas. 272 00:13:20,760 --> 00:13:24,319 Speaker 4: But there's one thing that is non Former special teams 273 00:13:24,320 --> 00:13:27,199 Speaker 4: coordinator John Fossil is no longer here. He is going 274 00:13:27,280 --> 00:13:31,719 Speaker 4: to Tennessee, oh Man. And you look at how he 275 00:13:31,840 --> 00:13:35,200 Speaker 4: spearheaded the whole special teams a new kickoff rule and 276 00:13:35,880 --> 00:13:37,960 Speaker 4: really change the culture in that unit. You look at 277 00:13:38,000 --> 00:13:40,120 Speaker 4: just in twenty twenty four, they were second in scoring, 278 00:13:41,160 --> 00:13:43,720 Speaker 4: second in field goals made led the league, and kickoffs 279 00:13:43,720 --> 00:13:45,280 Speaker 4: return for a touchdown led the league and. 280 00:13:45,280 --> 00:13:46,440 Speaker 5: Average return yards. 281 00:13:46,440 --> 00:13:48,640 Speaker 4: Shoutouts to Cavate Turnin, shout out to Brandon Aubrey, all 282 00:13:48,679 --> 00:13:51,240 Speaker 4: those guys, John Fossil. 283 00:13:51,440 --> 00:13:55,160 Speaker 6: How do you replace if you can replace a coach 284 00:13:55,280 --> 00:13:59,400 Speaker 6: like that, you can't, I'm sorry. You can with somebody 285 00:13:59,440 --> 00:14:02,440 Speaker 6: who's on his statute. And that's also hard to find. 286 00:14:02,720 --> 00:14:05,600 Speaker 6: Because here's one thing I know about Bones is I've 287 00:14:05,640 --> 00:14:08,920 Speaker 6: talked to obviously current players, but also past players. I'm 288 00:14:08,960 --> 00:14:12,480 Speaker 6: talking years ago, players who still talk about the impact 289 00:14:12,520 --> 00:14:17,040 Speaker 6: that man had on their life past football. So for me, 290 00:14:17,640 --> 00:14:19,880 Speaker 6: Bones is the kind of coach that not only makes 291 00:14:19,920 --> 00:14:22,600 Speaker 6: you want to continue to play well and do your 292 00:14:22,640 --> 00:14:25,520 Speaker 6: best on the field, he makes sure you're taken care 293 00:14:25,560 --> 00:14:28,960 Speaker 6: of well after your football career. And that's really, really hard, 294 00:14:29,400 --> 00:14:33,320 Speaker 6: I think to find just that empathetic heart that Bones has. 295 00:14:33,480 --> 00:14:36,080 Speaker 6: And I know a lot of the flak I was 296 00:14:36,120 --> 00:14:39,560 Speaker 6: getting on Twitter about this was the bad calls and 297 00:14:39,600 --> 00:14:43,640 Speaker 6: this and that and oh he extended his welcome and 298 00:14:44,400 --> 00:14:46,640 Speaker 6: I don't want to hear it like I will take 299 00:14:46,680 --> 00:14:49,920 Speaker 6: the good with the bad. No, really, I'll take the 300 00:14:49,960 --> 00:14:52,680 Speaker 6: good with the bad. When he has scouted out guys 301 00:14:52,760 --> 00:14:56,640 Speaker 6: like Brandon Aubrey, nobody in this league heard of Brandon 302 00:14:56,680 --> 00:15:00,400 Speaker 6: Aubrey until Bones Fossil went was watching him in Burningham 303 00:15:00,640 --> 00:15:04,160 Speaker 6: and then look what happened. Cavante Turpin another example that 304 00:15:04,320 --> 00:15:08,280 Speaker 6: Bones personally looked to scout out here, and of course 305 00:15:08,320 --> 00:15:10,840 Speaker 6: he credits the scouting department and all of that. That's 306 00:15:10,880 --> 00:15:14,760 Speaker 6: Bones Bones' mind is those two players alone can tell 307 00:15:14,800 --> 00:15:17,480 Speaker 6: you everything and how valuable he is as a coach 308 00:15:17,760 --> 00:15:21,800 Speaker 6: of finding players that were impactful from the first day 309 00:15:21,800 --> 00:15:24,120 Speaker 6: that they came here, even when they had no name 310 00:15:24,800 --> 00:15:27,360 Speaker 6: credited to them in the NFL yet. So for me, 311 00:15:28,280 --> 00:15:31,200 Speaker 6: it's really hard to replace the Bones Fossil and I 312 00:15:31,360 --> 00:15:35,360 Speaker 6: personally for special teams alone, I don't think there's anybody 313 00:15:35,360 --> 00:15:37,320 Speaker 6: out there you can bring in that can do that. 314 00:15:37,560 --> 00:15:38,160 Speaker 7: Day one. 315 00:15:38,800 --> 00:15:41,560 Speaker 10: I agree in fairness, like some of the rule changes 316 00:15:41,600 --> 00:15:43,960 Speaker 10: that we've seen with special teams, some of the things, 317 00:15:44,040 --> 00:15:48,040 Speaker 10: like some of the formations he has spearheaded to just 318 00:15:48,080 --> 00:15:51,040 Speaker 10: his point, a lot of the fullard thinking with special teams, 319 00:15:51,040 --> 00:15:53,720 Speaker 10: but also to just from a football standpoint, special teams. 320 00:15:53,720 --> 00:15:55,920 Speaker 10: Does a lot of players start as does Brian where 321 00:15:55,920 --> 00:15:59,680 Speaker 10: he started. Yeah, Like a lot of the time, it's 322 00:16:00,040 --> 00:16:02,000 Speaker 10: it's almost like a right to pass it. It's like 323 00:16:02,120 --> 00:16:04,240 Speaker 10: you have to go through special teams with a lot 324 00:16:04,240 --> 00:16:06,520 Speaker 10: of these positions to earn the. 325 00:16:06,520 --> 00:16:08,040 Speaker 7: Opportunity to be on a field. 326 00:16:08,400 --> 00:16:11,400 Speaker 10: So almost a special teams coordinator is one of the 327 00:16:11,440 --> 00:16:15,720 Speaker 10: only coordinators that will have a connection with a defensive player, 328 00:16:15,920 --> 00:16:19,040 Speaker 10: an offensive player, all of them because he has all 329 00:16:19,080 --> 00:16:21,520 Speaker 10: of those guys come together. For special teams to operate 330 00:16:21,760 --> 00:16:24,320 Speaker 10: such an important facet of the game. We see it 331 00:16:24,360 --> 00:16:27,800 Speaker 10: win and lose playoffs, in playoff games every year. I 332 00:16:28,240 --> 00:16:30,200 Speaker 10: do think out of all the gentlemen that you are 333 00:16:30,240 --> 00:16:33,880 Speaker 10: losing in this whole situation, he might be the most 334 00:16:33,920 --> 00:16:37,560 Speaker 10: impactful because he touches Like I said, he touches every 335 00:16:37,640 --> 00:16:40,760 Speaker 10: player that's on that touches that field. And yeah, I 336 00:16:41,280 --> 00:16:42,720 Speaker 10: do think it is going to be difficult, and I 337 00:16:42,800 --> 00:16:44,680 Speaker 10: think that it speaks to how quickly he got scooped 338 00:16:44,760 --> 00:16:46,760 Speaker 10: up as well, like people know who bones is. 339 00:16:46,800 --> 00:16:47,520 Speaker 7: He's respected. 340 00:16:47,760 --> 00:16:51,200 Speaker 10: I will say special teams stress me out sometimes this year, 341 00:16:51,400 --> 00:16:52,840 Speaker 10: but that's a part of the job. 342 00:16:52,880 --> 00:16:54,160 Speaker 7: But that's a part of the job. 343 00:16:54,240 --> 00:16:56,560 Speaker 10: But for the most part, to your point, just his 344 00:16:56,640 --> 00:16:59,520 Speaker 10: tenure most teams has been successful and he's a guy 345 00:16:59,560 --> 00:17:01,360 Speaker 10: that you know you are gonna miss. 346 00:17:01,520 --> 00:17:04,280 Speaker 7: So yeah, from a football standpoint, it does kind of suck. 347 00:17:04,440 --> 00:17:06,960 Speaker 8: Yeah, I think special teams definitely, just overall in the 348 00:17:07,040 --> 00:17:10,720 Speaker 8: league goes underrated until. 349 00:17:11,119 --> 00:17:12,359 Speaker 7: Until you see it. 350 00:17:12,400 --> 00:17:16,240 Speaker 8: We've seen it, see the season, impact the game either way, 351 00:17:16,359 --> 00:17:18,360 Speaker 8: and I just think it's gonna be something you don't 352 00:17:18,359 --> 00:17:21,240 Speaker 8: feel until next season because everyone's so focused on like, Okay, 353 00:17:21,520 --> 00:17:25,280 Speaker 8: we need another offensive weapon, we need another Depp ad Tagle, 354 00:17:25,320 --> 00:17:27,040 Speaker 8: we need this, we need that, and then you're gonna 355 00:17:27,160 --> 00:17:29,679 Speaker 8: the special teams is definitely, So I'm interested to see 356 00:17:30,280 --> 00:17:33,720 Speaker 8: what Plan B is there. But I also what flagged 357 00:17:33,720 --> 00:17:36,520 Speaker 8: my mind to see where he's going, and in my mind, 358 00:17:36,560 --> 00:17:39,639 Speaker 8: that is a lateral move. So I just wonder how 359 00:17:39,640 --> 00:17:44,080 Speaker 8: those conversations went if that was his choice, Like you said, 360 00:17:44,160 --> 00:17:46,800 Speaker 8: is this job, you know appealing? Was it even a 361 00:17:46,840 --> 00:17:50,639 Speaker 8: conversation if he could return, if certain things? And I 362 00:17:50,680 --> 00:17:53,000 Speaker 8: think that leadership wise, it's a big deal. You look 363 00:17:53,040 --> 00:17:56,719 Speaker 8: at that group. A lot of teams nowadays. You have 364 00:17:56,800 --> 00:17:58,800 Speaker 8: to be able. If you can play special teams, you 365 00:17:58,800 --> 00:18:01,560 Speaker 8: can make you can make a roster. So I think 366 00:18:01,680 --> 00:18:05,280 Speaker 8: just how that plays out going forward, because it's just 367 00:18:06,119 --> 00:18:08,480 Speaker 8: there's not one position on this team that I'm not 368 00:18:08,520 --> 00:18:10,760 Speaker 8: concerned about at this point, and that's what's. 369 00:18:10,520 --> 00:18:11,639 Speaker 7: Scary that's insane. 370 00:18:11,640 --> 00:18:14,199 Speaker 4: Do you feel like this special teams unit will be 371 00:18:14,200 --> 00:18:15,760 Speaker 4: the same though, no? 372 00:18:15,760 --> 00:18:16,160 Speaker 5: If not? 373 00:18:16,400 --> 00:18:19,360 Speaker 6: No, you also have a coach that spearheaded the rule 374 00:18:19,440 --> 00:18:23,680 Speaker 6: change as your special teams coordinator, which you can see 375 00:18:23,680 --> 00:18:26,720 Speaker 6: that as an advantage or a disadvantage because he tried 376 00:18:26,760 --> 00:18:29,639 Speaker 6: to tried to outdo it, you know, a couple times, 377 00:18:29,640 --> 00:18:31,280 Speaker 6: and yes, some of those calls you were like what 378 00:18:31,440 --> 00:18:33,920 Speaker 6: is going on? But to his point, he always said, 379 00:18:33,920 --> 00:18:36,440 Speaker 6: if it works, it works, And you're asking me opposite 380 00:18:36,480 --> 00:18:38,560 Speaker 6: questions as a press conference, you know what I mean. 381 00:18:38,640 --> 00:18:42,200 Speaker 6: So for me, especially because the rule change is still 382 00:18:42,280 --> 00:18:44,520 Speaker 6: so new coming out of its first year, you kind 383 00:18:44,520 --> 00:18:48,240 Speaker 6: of know the kinks and like the pros and the 384 00:18:48,240 --> 00:18:51,520 Speaker 6: cons of it going into this next year, you still 385 00:18:51,720 --> 00:18:54,560 Speaker 6: would like to have that advantage of somebody who spearheaded 386 00:18:54,560 --> 00:18:58,400 Speaker 6: that change in that movement. So for me, I don't know, man, 387 00:18:58,640 --> 00:19:01,200 Speaker 6: it's just it sucks. I saw that and that one 388 00:19:01,400 --> 00:19:03,480 Speaker 6: that one hit me. I was like, dang. Because he's 389 00:19:03,520 --> 00:19:06,480 Speaker 6: also just a great coach with media. He's very media 390 00:19:06,520 --> 00:19:09,119 Speaker 6: friendly and an open book as far as talking like 391 00:19:09,160 --> 00:19:12,000 Speaker 6: sometimes pr is pretty much like okay, bones, like your 392 00:19:12,000 --> 00:19:14,879 Speaker 6: press is over, let's go, you know, Like he He 393 00:19:15,000 --> 00:19:18,480 Speaker 6: definitely is one of those coaches that is willing to 394 00:19:18,520 --> 00:19:21,440 Speaker 6: share with you, help you learn, help you grow, and 395 00:19:21,480 --> 00:19:24,880 Speaker 6: so wishing him and his family the best because those 396 00:19:24,880 --> 00:19:27,120 Speaker 6: little girls that he has are the cutest, are the best. 397 00:19:27,160 --> 00:19:29,720 Speaker 6: They actually sat in here with us a while back 398 00:19:29,720 --> 00:19:33,159 Speaker 6: and watching episode. So hope, hope, the Bones family is 399 00:19:33,280 --> 00:19:36,359 Speaker 6: doing well. By Shayla's I'm so sad. 400 00:19:36,359 --> 00:19:40,600 Speaker 5: I'm certainly wishing Fossil the best of luck. 401 00:19:41,080 --> 00:19:44,119 Speaker 4: And Tennessee, go dang it, it's gonna be sick. 402 00:19:44,640 --> 00:19:48,760 Speaker 8: All right, We're gonna take our first break up. 403 00:19:48,840 --> 00:19:50,320 Speaker 5: Next, we're gonna break down. 404 00:19:50,119 --> 00:19:53,080 Speaker 4: The pros and cons of this offensive staff that we 405 00:19:53,160 --> 00:19:54,000 Speaker 4: have right now. 406 00:19:54,560 --> 00:19:58,199 Speaker 5: You may not be Jesus right now. 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Amanda Foster has been named for twenty twenty 457 00:22:26,200 --> 00:22:29,720 Speaker 6: four Dallas Cowboys Fan of the Year, presented by Captain Morgan, 458 00:22:29,760 --> 00:22:32,840 Speaker 6: for her dedication to the team and spicing up the game. 459 00:22:33,200 --> 00:22:35,359 Speaker 6: Vote for Amanda to be named the Ultimate NFL Fan 460 00:22:35,440 --> 00:22:37,480 Speaker 6: of the Year at nfl dot com Slash Fan of 461 00:22:37,520 --> 00:22:40,440 Speaker 6: the Year. Go vote for Amanda. Also, I'm sorry, thirty 462 00:22:40,520 --> 00:22:44,600 Speaker 6: is not old. Please, I'm sorry, please, no, please, it's not. 463 00:22:44,680 --> 00:22:45,480 Speaker 6: I don't want to hear it. 464 00:22:45,760 --> 00:22:48,600 Speaker 5: I just got a few more years that thirty. 465 00:22:49,400 --> 00:22:51,880 Speaker 6: Honestly, I'm not even thirty yet. Why are we talking 466 00:22:51,880 --> 00:22:55,600 Speaker 6: about I'm thirty member inside? 467 00:22:55,600 --> 00:22:58,280 Speaker 10: Oh yeah, it comes so fast anyway, Like can you 468 00:22:58,280 --> 00:23:00,960 Speaker 10: look up and it's like, hey. 469 00:23:01,119 --> 00:23:05,840 Speaker 6: Well, luckily after this year my birthday doesn't exist. Why 470 00:23:06,000 --> 00:23:08,760 Speaker 6: because I'm twenty nine forever? All right? 471 00:23:08,800 --> 00:23:11,560 Speaker 4: All right, that's I'm gonna be twenty seven forever. 472 00:23:11,600 --> 00:23:12,040 Speaker 5: How about that? 473 00:23:12,000 --> 00:23:14,840 Speaker 7: That's going into next season. 474 00:23:14,920 --> 00:23:18,240 Speaker 6: I'm I'm de Lulu about most things. And yeah, next 475 00:23:18,240 --> 00:23:20,080 Speaker 6: season is another with Asian. 476 00:23:20,200 --> 00:23:22,200 Speaker 4: Well, I think we a little Lulu too right now 477 00:23:22,480 --> 00:23:25,080 Speaker 4: to be This is the new coaching staff. 478 00:23:24,720 --> 00:23:25,119 Speaker 7: That I have. 479 00:23:25,280 --> 00:23:26,760 Speaker 6: Oh yeah, you assigned it. 480 00:23:26,840 --> 00:23:27,639 Speaker 5: Yeah, behind it? 481 00:23:27,760 --> 00:23:28,119 Speaker 6: Go ahead. 482 00:23:28,480 --> 00:23:30,080 Speaker 5: This is just who I think out of who are 483 00:23:30,160 --> 00:23:30,800 Speaker 5: all available? 484 00:23:30,840 --> 00:23:31,120 Speaker 4: Right now? 485 00:23:31,200 --> 00:23:31,720 Speaker 6: Right there we go. 486 00:23:31,760 --> 00:23:37,080 Speaker 5: I'm gonna go with I'm gonna start over here. Yeah, 487 00:23:37,119 --> 00:23:39,840 Speaker 5: I told you what I pick because you're your job secure. 488 00:23:39,960 --> 00:23:41,800 Speaker 6: Yeah, you're you're set. I'm not good. 489 00:23:41,840 --> 00:23:42,920 Speaker 5: Will mcclay's out the way. 490 00:23:43,280 --> 00:23:45,000 Speaker 6: You're good. You're over there over there. 491 00:23:45,080 --> 00:23:47,800 Speaker 4: Yah, yeah, yeah, we got you is offensive line. 492 00:23:48,000 --> 00:23:49,320 Speaker 6: Thank you, that's all I want. 493 00:23:49,560 --> 00:23:51,680 Speaker 5: I can see that dream come true, dream come true. 494 00:23:51,840 --> 00:23:54,600 Speaker 6: You could you can get your hands yet. 495 00:23:54,760 --> 00:23:56,280 Speaker 5: I see that. I can see that. 496 00:23:56,600 --> 00:23:59,160 Speaker 6: I'm not playing No, I know, tough them up. 497 00:24:00,080 --> 00:24:00,800 Speaker 5: I'm gonna go with. 498 00:24:02,600 --> 00:24:05,720 Speaker 6: Don't give me something late. I'm gonna special teams coordinator. 499 00:24:05,800 --> 00:24:06,119 Speaker 5: Thank you. 500 00:24:06,160 --> 00:24:08,280 Speaker 4: All right, special team I could do that or maybe 501 00:24:08,280 --> 00:24:10,520 Speaker 4: even nah, what was the other one. I'm just saying 502 00:24:10,520 --> 00:24:13,840 Speaker 4: we're gonna still advise h tight ends coach or maybe 503 00:24:13,840 --> 00:24:16,040 Speaker 4: tit ands coach. I don't know which one would you prefer. 504 00:24:17,160 --> 00:24:21,120 Speaker 6: I'll be I'll be a hybrid coach. I'm hybrid special 505 00:24:21,160 --> 00:24:24,000 Speaker 6: teams and tight ends coach. Babes, who are you I'm 506 00:24:24,000 --> 00:24:26,760 Speaker 6: going to d C. Yeah yeah, yeah, we knew that's 507 00:24:26,800 --> 00:24:29,120 Speaker 6: our DC over here, Nicole, I have not plan. 508 00:24:29,200 --> 00:24:33,600 Speaker 5: All right, all right, pros and cons the offense. Uh, 509 00:24:33,800 --> 00:24:34,840 Speaker 5: we'll start there with. 510 00:24:35,359 --> 00:24:37,600 Speaker 4: Just going through the coaches list and whether or not 511 00:24:37,640 --> 00:24:40,359 Speaker 4: you feel there's a pro or Connell, why they should stay, 512 00:24:40,720 --> 00:24:45,040 Speaker 4: why they should get the road Jack, don't you coming back? 513 00:24:45,240 --> 00:24:45,560 Speaker 9: All right? 514 00:24:45,800 --> 00:24:49,000 Speaker 5: Jeff Blasco. We were dotting it with him, the running 515 00:24:49,000 --> 00:24:52,080 Speaker 5: backs coach coordinator. 516 00:24:52,160 --> 00:24:52,280 Speaker 9: Run. 517 00:24:53,480 --> 00:24:55,560 Speaker 10: Thing I can say is that we have felt that 518 00:24:55,880 --> 00:24:58,120 Speaker 10: felt the effects of Skip Pete not being on this 519 00:24:58,200 --> 00:25:04,680 Speaker 10: roster the run game and stuff for that. Since, Okay, do. 520 00:25:04,600 --> 00:25:06,160 Speaker 5: You think that's solely. 521 00:25:07,280 --> 00:25:09,800 Speaker 4: On the running backs or is that just the decline 522 00:25:09,880 --> 00:25:14,080 Speaker 4: and not decline in the offensive line play to change? 523 00:25:14,119 --> 00:25:17,400 Speaker 10: It's the changes with the offensive line coach, it's the 524 00:25:17,520 --> 00:25:22,240 Speaker 10: lack of urgency to go get running backs to help 525 00:25:22,359 --> 00:25:24,760 Speaker 10: your offensive line look better what it does like we do. 526 00:25:24,720 --> 00:25:26,680 Speaker 7: And see in the other league, other parts of the league. 527 00:25:27,200 --> 00:25:30,040 Speaker 10: And uh, and I also do think it's it's philosophy 528 00:25:30,119 --> 00:25:31,520 Speaker 10: change and and things like that. 529 00:25:31,640 --> 00:25:34,600 Speaker 7: So yeah, Skip pet I remember, I don't know if 530 00:25:34,600 --> 00:25:39,400 Speaker 7: you you want to be here, but when Skip Pete left, 531 00:25:37,800 --> 00:25:40,639 Speaker 7: it it hurt people. 532 00:25:40,960 --> 00:25:41,679 Speaker 6: It hit different. 533 00:25:42,320 --> 00:25:44,800 Speaker 10: He's just he's just one of those guys that understands 534 00:25:44,800 --> 00:25:48,440 Speaker 10: obviously understands the position, but really speaks life into his 535 00:25:48,560 --> 00:25:51,880 Speaker 10: players and and also does things that are to their benefit. 536 00:25:52,520 --> 00:25:53,960 Speaker 7: So I just. 537 00:25:56,240 --> 00:25:59,400 Speaker 6: Huh to me, Yeah, you can't even figure that out 538 00:25:59,440 --> 00:26:03,600 Speaker 6: because who's your running back? No, who is it? Like, 539 00:26:03,920 --> 00:26:06,080 Speaker 6: I don't know what kind of coach you need because 540 00:26:06,400 --> 00:26:12,320 Speaker 6: who's in that room? Like, genuinely, I don't know. You're 541 00:26:12,440 --> 00:26:16,080 Speaker 6: starting running back last season? Is hitting free agency? Like 542 00:26:17,400 --> 00:26:20,639 Speaker 6: are you getting a rookie? Are you getting a free agent? 543 00:26:21,000 --> 00:26:25,320 Speaker 6: Are you resigning? That's gonna determine what I think about 544 00:26:25,880 --> 00:26:29,320 Speaker 6: the coach that needs to handle the situation. So TVD 545 00:26:30,240 --> 00:26:31,520 Speaker 6: another TVD, Yeah. 546 00:26:31,480 --> 00:26:32,199 Speaker 7: Another TVD. 547 00:26:32,560 --> 00:26:35,840 Speaker 8: I don't I don't think it's fair, But this is 548 00:26:35,880 --> 00:26:39,560 Speaker 8: a business. And like you guys pointed out, who did 549 00:26:39,600 --> 00:26:42,080 Speaker 8: he have? That's a big part of it. Who did 550 00:26:42,119 --> 00:26:44,840 Speaker 8: Mike McCarthy have. That's a big part of it. But 551 00:26:44,880 --> 00:26:48,480 Speaker 8: if we're going to clean house, clean house, especially offensively, 552 00:26:48,680 --> 00:26:50,280 Speaker 8: there's one guy and I'm pretty sure we can all 553 00:26:50,320 --> 00:26:53,280 Speaker 8: agree when we get there that deserves to stay, in 554 00:26:53,320 --> 00:26:54,040 Speaker 8: my opinion. 555 00:26:54,640 --> 00:26:57,440 Speaker 6: But if we're gonna clean house, clean house. 556 00:26:57,600 --> 00:27:01,480 Speaker 8: It's now, especially like hypothetic if it's a killing Moore, 557 00:27:02,240 --> 00:27:03,719 Speaker 8: especially if it's a Brian shot. 558 00:27:05,000 --> 00:27:05,840 Speaker 5: Pull your face together. 559 00:27:05,880 --> 00:27:09,680 Speaker 6: I'm sorry, what is new? What is changing? Right? 560 00:27:09,880 --> 00:27:13,199 Speaker 8: Like you you gotta something has to within, And I 561 00:27:13,520 --> 00:27:16,560 Speaker 8: think if you're going to clean house, especially offensively, it's 562 00:27:16,600 --> 00:27:17,400 Speaker 8: time to clean house. 563 00:27:17,480 --> 00:27:20,119 Speaker 4: Yeah, Well, it also kind of goes back to I 564 00:27:20,200 --> 00:27:23,840 Speaker 4: believe I U should have mentioned this is that you 565 00:27:23,920 --> 00:27:27,480 Speaker 4: don't really know if it was up to Mike McCarthy 566 00:27:28,520 --> 00:27:31,600 Speaker 4: when it comes to the running back situation, or if 567 00:27:31,600 --> 00:27:34,280 Speaker 4: it was a Jeff Blasco situation, or you don't really know, 568 00:27:35,440 --> 00:27:38,920 Speaker 4: and so it's kind of hard to really assess if 569 00:27:40,000 --> 00:27:45,800 Speaker 4: Jeff Blasco really had a tough rain or hold on 570 00:27:45,920 --> 00:27:48,360 Speaker 4: that room and making those decisions in terms of who 571 00:27:48,359 --> 00:27:50,520 Speaker 4: should be running back one, who should I who should 572 00:27:50,560 --> 00:27:53,800 Speaker 4: be playing? I mean, so, yeah, a lot of TVD 573 00:27:54,320 --> 00:27:58,120 Speaker 4: But we're gonna go Robert Prince next. Wide receivers coach, 574 00:27:58,240 --> 00:28:03,600 Speaker 4: have you seen any improvement with the wide receivers? 575 00:28:03,720 --> 00:28:05,880 Speaker 6: Okay, y'all, I'm not coming to the whole bunch, yep 576 00:28:05,920 --> 00:28:09,480 Speaker 6: me either. Next I will say pros. 577 00:28:09,600 --> 00:28:10,680 Speaker 5: We'll start with pros first. 578 00:28:10,760 --> 00:28:13,359 Speaker 8: I can't I should go last on that one, and 579 00:28:13,440 --> 00:28:15,880 Speaker 8: that is because I don't have one. 580 00:28:15,920 --> 00:28:18,320 Speaker 6: And that's the problem. I believe. 581 00:28:18,800 --> 00:28:22,320 Speaker 8: I believe Jalen Tolbert has a higher ceiling than what 582 00:28:22,760 --> 00:28:23,400 Speaker 8: was seen. 583 00:28:23,600 --> 00:28:27,040 Speaker 6: I agree, and that we saw splashes right. 584 00:28:27,880 --> 00:28:31,600 Speaker 8: Brandon Cooks goes out early in the season, and I 585 00:28:31,640 --> 00:28:36,160 Speaker 8: didn't see nothing changed. I just I saw Dak Prescott 586 00:28:36,200 --> 00:28:39,720 Speaker 8: go out, and I just felt like, Okay, understand who 587 00:28:39,760 --> 00:28:43,280 Speaker 8: your quarterback is now, and I just didn't see any changes. 588 00:28:43,360 --> 00:28:44,760 Speaker 8: It just looked like we were just trying to force the 589 00:28:44,800 --> 00:28:50,440 Speaker 8: same offense on a totally different quarterback with wide receivers that. 590 00:28:50,640 --> 00:28:51,520 Speaker 6: Needed to step up. 591 00:28:53,640 --> 00:28:56,920 Speaker 8: And I have a problem with him staying because I 592 00:28:56,920 --> 00:28:59,880 Speaker 8: feel like, again using Tolbert as probably in my opinion, 593 00:29:00,360 --> 00:29:02,480 Speaker 8: who I was looking forward to see the most kind 594 00:29:02,520 --> 00:29:05,400 Speaker 8: of grow in this season is if you go to 595 00:29:05,440 --> 00:29:07,600 Speaker 8: another team, I bet you they figured it out. 596 00:29:07,880 --> 00:29:09,680 Speaker 6: And that's why I have a problem Modlitz. 597 00:29:10,400 --> 00:29:12,880 Speaker 10: I mean just even based on Brandon Cooks as although 598 00:29:12,880 --> 00:29:15,560 Speaker 10: Brandon Cooks has had some issues, some knee issues, some 599 00:29:15,600 --> 00:29:19,240 Speaker 10: issues he's been here, he's always been a guy that 600 00:29:19,400 --> 00:29:23,400 Speaker 10: KISS played with even lesser respectfully no disrespect, but even 601 00:29:23,480 --> 00:29:27,440 Speaker 10: lesser talented quarterbacks than the quarterbacks he's played with here, 602 00:29:27,760 --> 00:29:29,960 Speaker 10: and you still couldn't figure out how to get him 603 00:29:29,960 --> 00:29:31,960 Speaker 10: the ball and play to strength. So for me, I 604 00:29:32,000 --> 00:29:36,080 Speaker 10: agree with you two ladies, is that there's what input 605 00:29:36,240 --> 00:29:40,480 Speaker 10: does he have? Yeah, that's the parts across the Yeah, 606 00:29:40,520 --> 00:29:43,880 Speaker 10: because it's like, if I'm if he's the wide receiver coach, 607 00:29:44,360 --> 00:29:47,080 Speaker 10: he should know all of the things that his unit 608 00:29:47,160 --> 00:29:50,720 Speaker 10: does well, what they don't do well. Honey, you're telling 609 00:29:50,720 --> 00:29:52,440 Speaker 10: me at no point in time that he wasn't allowed 610 00:29:52,480 --> 00:29:56,640 Speaker 10: to go say stop calling comebacks for this man. This 611 00:29:56,680 --> 00:29:59,080 Speaker 10: is not He doesn't have the catch radius for it. 612 00:29:59,280 --> 00:30:01,400 Speaker 10: His route running isn't as sharp as it was before 613 00:30:01,560 --> 00:30:03,680 Speaker 10: talking about Brandon Cooks. This is a guy that can 614 00:30:03,760 --> 00:30:06,360 Speaker 10: run past people, can sit in zones, can do things 615 00:30:06,400 --> 00:30:09,960 Speaker 10: like that. Like where is my thing about Robert Prince 616 00:30:10,080 --> 00:30:13,000 Speaker 10: is we've been talking about the wide receiver room for 617 00:30:13,040 --> 00:30:16,360 Speaker 10: the last two years now. I haven't even heard what 618 00:30:16,360 --> 00:30:20,080 Speaker 10: what input has he had on the trajectory of this room. 619 00:30:20,160 --> 00:30:20,760 Speaker 7: So that's my. 620 00:30:20,840 --> 00:30:23,920 Speaker 10: Biggest thing is your point is like, well, what's going 621 00:30:24,000 --> 00:30:26,400 Speaker 10: to change and has he even been a part of 622 00:30:26,440 --> 00:30:28,360 Speaker 10: any of the changes that. 623 00:30:28,240 --> 00:30:28,960 Speaker 7: Have been made? 624 00:30:29,120 --> 00:30:33,000 Speaker 6: And piggybacking off of both of y'all like your younger 625 00:30:33,080 --> 00:30:35,960 Speaker 6: guys and their development, especially because he is what a 626 00:30:36,080 --> 00:30:41,040 Speaker 6: second year coach, Yes, second year third carry the second 627 00:30:41,120 --> 00:30:44,959 Speaker 6: or third one well, regardless your younger players, your second 628 00:30:45,080 --> 00:30:49,040 Speaker 6: third players, their development to your point where you should 629 00:30:49,080 --> 00:30:52,840 Speaker 6: be way way further ahead than what it is, and 630 00:30:52,840 --> 00:30:55,760 Speaker 6: that's doing them a disservices players third. 631 00:30:55,720 --> 00:30:57,760 Speaker 5: Four twenty twenty two, So what's that four? 632 00:30:58,240 --> 00:31:03,240 Speaker 6: This is what year? Were three? Three? Girl? Mathis math? 633 00:31:03,360 --> 00:31:03,400 Speaker 14: Was? 634 00:31:03,480 --> 00:31:03,920 Speaker 6: It's fine? 635 00:31:04,480 --> 00:31:05,080 Speaker 5: Come back there? 636 00:31:06,160 --> 00:31:12,200 Speaker 6: No, but to that point too, Jalen Brooks Jalen Tolbert, Like, 637 00:31:12,320 --> 00:31:15,160 Speaker 6: the development just was not there and where it should 638 00:31:15,160 --> 00:31:19,200 Speaker 6: have been, especially considering you had your rookie or your rookie, 639 00:31:19,200 --> 00:31:21,600 Speaker 6: oh my god, your backup quarterback in that they get 640 00:31:21,600 --> 00:31:25,400 Speaker 6: their practice reps with most of the time. So to me, 641 00:31:26,320 --> 00:31:29,720 Speaker 6: the development of your young players tells me how how 642 00:31:29,800 --> 00:31:32,959 Speaker 6: much you're working with them. And I don't know exactly 643 00:31:33,480 --> 00:31:36,760 Speaker 6: what you saw other than Seedee Lamb literally holding the 644 00:31:36,800 --> 00:31:38,880 Speaker 6: season with one arm, Like, yeah. 645 00:31:38,840 --> 00:31:42,280 Speaker 4: It's and that's just based on target as a natural athlete. 646 00:31:43,320 --> 00:31:46,640 Speaker 6: Well right, But also at what point, at what point 647 00:31:46,680 --> 00:31:48,880 Speaker 6: do you give him some relief so he's not feeling 648 00:31:48,960 --> 00:31:51,520 Speaker 6: like he has to play these games when playoff contention 649 00:31:51,680 --> 00:31:54,840 Speaker 6: is off the table to just win with literally a 650 00:31:54,840 --> 00:31:58,280 Speaker 6: banged up shoulder that wasn't surgery required at that point, 651 00:31:58,320 --> 00:32:01,800 Speaker 6: but had it kept going, who knows how much that 652 00:32:01,840 --> 00:32:06,560 Speaker 6: could have leaned into next season and rehabbing and all that. Like, 653 00:32:07,000 --> 00:32:09,600 Speaker 6: I'm not willing to risk ceed Lamb. That's why your 654 00:32:09,640 --> 00:32:12,320 Speaker 6: other receiver should be ready for games like that in 655 00:32:12,360 --> 00:32:15,440 Speaker 6: moments like that, like why weren't they will? 656 00:32:15,520 --> 00:32:17,800 Speaker 10: I want to ask you guys though, like it is frustrating, 657 00:32:17,880 --> 00:32:20,840 Speaker 10: but I want to ask you guys with with everything 658 00:32:20,880 --> 00:32:23,960 Speaker 10: that you said, we know how the Cowboys handle the 659 00:32:24,000 --> 00:32:27,360 Speaker 10: wide receiver room. Yeah, they have handled it in a 660 00:32:27,560 --> 00:32:29,200 Speaker 10: very like ceed Lamb fell to them. 661 00:32:29,760 --> 00:32:32,400 Speaker 7: They got lucky. You know, they have handled it. 662 00:32:32,560 --> 00:32:35,240 Speaker 10: You know besides Brandon and Brandon Cooks, they brought in 663 00:32:35,440 --> 00:32:36,880 Speaker 10: trade me what trade meal? 664 00:32:38,560 --> 00:32:41,720 Speaker 7: I want to call it so bad, but yeah, they 665 00:32:41,760 --> 00:32:43,720 Speaker 7: brought in the trough and Mingo. 666 00:32:44,440 --> 00:32:47,160 Speaker 10: With the way that you handled wide receiver room like 667 00:32:47,240 --> 00:32:50,640 Speaker 10: it is not a priority, maybe the coach needs to 668 00:32:50,640 --> 00:32:54,480 Speaker 10: be a guru then if you if you're not going 669 00:32:54,560 --> 00:32:57,000 Speaker 10: to go out and get more of a CD Lamb 670 00:32:57,000 --> 00:33:00,200 Speaker 10: that just has the natural ability to overcome, then you 671 00:33:00,280 --> 00:33:03,920 Speaker 10: need a guru to teach these third round, fourth round 672 00:33:04,000 --> 00:33:06,160 Speaker 10: guys that the Cowboys like to go after because they 673 00:33:06,160 --> 00:33:09,200 Speaker 10: don't want to invest to become those type of players. 674 00:33:09,280 --> 00:33:12,800 Speaker 4: But you have guys on that roster, Brandon Cooks, who 675 00:33:12,800 --> 00:33:13,440 Speaker 4: you didn't use. 676 00:33:14,120 --> 00:33:14,760 Speaker 5: So it's like. 677 00:33:16,240 --> 00:33:18,160 Speaker 10: That's what I'm saying, Like I don't know, I just 678 00:33:18,200 --> 00:33:20,320 Speaker 10: think if you won't handle like that, then your coach 679 00:33:20,360 --> 00:33:22,840 Speaker 10: has to be super sharped then. 680 00:33:23,040 --> 00:33:26,080 Speaker 6: But I think the blame goes equally across the table, 681 00:33:26,160 --> 00:33:29,200 Speaker 6: like it's not just Robert Prince, it's also head coach 682 00:33:29,400 --> 00:33:31,880 Speaker 6: and you know O see, like I think everybody gets 683 00:33:31,920 --> 00:33:34,960 Speaker 6: their fair share of blame, but you won't. Actually, again, 684 00:33:35,040 --> 00:33:38,400 Speaker 6: this is so hard because, especially offensively, you don't know 685 00:33:38,480 --> 00:33:40,280 Speaker 6: how much of it was play calling, and you don't 686 00:33:40,280 --> 00:33:42,920 Speaker 6: know how much of it was position coach decisions like 687 00:33:43,120 --> 00:33:45,959 Speaker 6: who has control, who has the say? You don't know, 688 00:33:46,320 --> 00:33:49,120 Speaker 6: and so really it's like I can't even fault any 689 00:33:49,120 --> 00:33:51,280 Speaker 6: of these position coaches because they don't know how much 690 00:33:51,320 --> 00:33:54,400 Speaker 6: say or control they had in the lack of you know, 691 00:33:54,480 --> 00:33:58,080 Speaker 6: involvement in younger players or anybody other than ceedee lamb. Really, 692 00:33:58,160 --> 00:34:00,920 Speaker 6: I mean it's it's hard to say, so I do 693 00:34:01,000 --> 00:34:02,240 Speaker 6: think goes everywhere. 694 00:34:02,400 --> 00:34:04,640 Speaker 8: I'm sorry to cut you off. I just thought about 695 00:34:05,320 --> 00:34:09,320 Speaker 8: CD was gone for the entire camp. That was the time, 696 00:34:09,440 --> 00:34:13,080 Speaker 8: in my opinion, to it was kind of an opportunity, 697 00:34:13,239 --> 00:34:14,680 Speaker 8: like we heard that for the players, but also for 698 00:34:14,719 --> 00:34:17,200 Speaker 8: the coaches to see and play with things you normally 699 00:34:17,200 --> 00:34:18,279 Speaker 8: couldn't when CD was there. 700 00:34:18,280 --> 00:34:19,920 Speaker 6: Because obviously he's gonna be running with the ones and 701 00:34:20,640 --> 00:34:21,319 Speaker 6: everything like that. 702 00:34:21,640 --> 00:34:24,120 Speaker 8: And so I just felt I just remember like all 703 00:34:24,200 --> 00:34:27,120 Speaker 8: the hype that was going on and the different Jalens 704 00:34:27,120 --> 00:34:31,200 Speaker 8: were shining through and Illinois was doing the outus just 705 00:34:31,280 --> 00:34:35,480 Speaker 8: like and then died out real quick because it burned 706 00:34:35,520 --> 00:34:38,920 Speaker 8: out the candle. And again, it's not to put it 707 00:34:38,960 --> 00:34:42,040 Speaker 8: on one person. This this a season like this goes. 708 00:34:42,160 --> 00:34:44,200 Speaker 8: There's from top to bottom. There's just a lot of 709 00:34:44,200 --> 00:34:46,480 Speaker 8: things that needs gone. But no one's gonna hype me. 710 00:34:46,520 --> 00:34:49,480 Speaker 6: Up about a wide receivers coach chapter or something like that. 711 00:34:49,400 --> 00:34:51,600 Speaker 7: And keeping the main thing. The main thing is sounded 712 00:34:51,680 --> 00:34:53,000 Speaker 7: like we should be winning. 713 00:34:53,480 --> 00:34:56,360 Speaker 10: It sounds like listening to everything you ladies are saying, 714 00:34:56,520 --> 00:35:00,400 Speaker 10: it sounds like there might have been philosophy difference, there 715 00:35:00,480 --> 00:35:02,919 Speaker 10: might have been issues because again to your point, Jess, 716 00:35:02,920 --> 00:35:04,560 Speaker 10: I'm glad that you mentioned like we really don't know 717 00:35:04,560 --> 00:35:06,800 Speaker 10: who did what, win a where, But the goal should 718 00:35:06,800 --> 00:35:10,240 Speaker 10: have been winning games. The goal should have been playing 719 00:35:10,280 --> 00:35:11,920 Speaker 10: to the strengths of the guys that you have on 720 00:35:11,960 --> 00:35:14,040 Speaker 10: your roster, whether you feel like they're lesser or not. 721 00:35:14,440 --> 00:35:17,960 Speaker 10: With respect. We see teams work with lesser. Yeah, we 722 00:35:18,040 --> 00:35:20,319 Speaker 10: see teams get it done. But if there's a collective, 723 00:35:21,000 --> 00:35:24,359 Speaker 10: you know, decision to win games and this is how 724 00:35:24,400 --> 00:35:28,560 Speaker 10: we're gonna do it, then all of these extracurricular conversations 725 00:35:28,600 --> 00:35:32,240 Speaker 10: and feelings and oh I had this is my favorite player, 726 00:35:32,280 --> 00:35:34,239 Speaker 10: so I want him to play all of that it 727 00:35:34,280 --> 00:35:36,200 Speaker 10: would have went out the window for the greater good 728 00:35:36,200 --> 00:35:38,080 Speaker 10: of the team. And I feel like we see that 729 00:35:38,200 --> 00:35:40,839 Speaker 10: exemplified on the field with the decisions that are being made. 730 00:35:41,480 --> 00:35:44,200 Speaker 4: Let's go with Linda Wells. 731 00:35:45,120 --> 00:35:48,120 Speaker 6: I like him. I'm okay if he stays. 732 00:35:49,600 --> 00:35:52,000 Speaker 4: Pro and con or which one you want to do first? 733 00:35:52,640 --> 00:35:53,759 Speaker 6: It's the pro is the con. 734 00:35:53,840 --> 00:35:58,760 Speaker 8: For me, I was I was really hyped up on Ferguson, 735 00:35:58,840 --> 00:36:02,279 Speaker 8: sat down with them, Darren Camp and that is who's 736 00:36:02,360 --> 00:36:04,800 Speaker 8: to me surprised me the most. 737 00:36:05,440 --> 00:36:06,360 Speaker 6: I don't know if I know. 738 00:36:06,440 --> 00:36:09,920 Speaker 8: He was dealing with injury and I and I seen 739 00:36:10,120 --> 00:36:12,759 Speaker 8: the you know, when you make a great block as 740 00:36:12,800 --> 00:36:15,000 Speaker 8: a tight end that does not that's not getting noted, right. 741 00:36:15,080 --> 00:36:16,640 Speaker 6: I've seen him be able to do that. 742 00:36:16,760 --> 00:36:22,239 Speaker 8: But I'm talking about the lack of productivity, especially when 743 00:36:22,920 --> 00:36:25,120 Speaker 8: Cooks is out the game and you think it's going 744 00:36:25,200 --> 00:36:27,560 Speaker 8: to be Ferguson that's going to be picking up all 745 00:36:27,600 --> 00:36:29,080 Speaker 8: these you know reps. 746 00:36:29,120 --> 00:36:31,879 Speaker 6: I thought, with the dynamic and how he. 747 00:36:31,920 --> 00:36:35,160 Speaker 8: Leads that group altogether, that that was just going to 748 00:36:35,239 --> 00:36:38,319 Speaker 8: like flourish, And it was a little bit disappointing. But 749 00:36:38,400 --> 00:36:41,240 Speaker 8: I think overall, what he stands for and the fact 750 00:36:41,280 --> 00:36:45,280 Speaker 8: that you know, just like most of the other coaching positions, 751 00:36:46,560 --> 00:36:49,920 Speaker 8: you know, they they they praise him in that and 752 00:36:49,960 --> 00:36:50,839 Speaker 8: I think. 753 00:36:51,400 --> 00:36:56,200 Speaker 6: With a different coach, this will be different. 754 00:36:56,239 --> 00:36:59,160 Speaker 8: But I also now am like, Okay, why my pros 755 00:36:59,160 --> 00:37:02,279 Speaker 8: to con if it's Brian Shoanheimer, who was already in here, 756 00:37:02,920 --> 00:37:05,800 Speaker 8: what is really going to change? 757 00:37:05,920 --> 00:37:09,720 Speaker 6: And that's I think it's gonna be don't clean house. 758 00:37:09,760 --> 00:37:12,320 Speaker 6: It's gonna be a lot of what we saw this season. Yeah, 759 00:37:12,440 --> 00:37:15,399 Speaker 6: I'm gonna say I would keep Lunda because out of 760 00:37:15,600 --> 00:37:18,000 Speaker 6: all of the players that we get to talk to 761 00:37:18,160 --> 00:37:22,440 Speaker 6: and we hear from the most consistent room that constantly 762 00:37:22,520 --> 00:37:26,080 Speaker 6: almost every time you talk to them, talks about Lunda, 763 00:37:26,520 --> 00:37:30,560 Speaker 6: I mean credits him to how much work he's pouring 764 00:37:30,600 --> 00:37:35,240 Speaker 6: into them as players as individuals. And again that speaks 765 00:37:35,320 --> 00:37:38,080 Speaker 6: volumes to me. If these guys I wasn't even asking 766 00:37:38,080 --> 00:37:40,520 Speaker 6: about Lunda and they will just credit him and throw 767 00:37:40,520 --> 00:37:43,640 Speaker 6: his name out there. That's the kind of coach you 768 00:37:43,800 --> 00:37:47,480 Speaker 6: need across the board for every position group here. You 769 00:37:47,520 --> 00:37:50,080 Speaker 6: want every single player to sit there and credit them, 770 00:37:50,080 --> 00:37:53,120 Speaker 6: not because you're asking them like hey, how's Lunda bin No, no, no, 771 00:37:53,320 --> 00:37:55,520 Speaker 6: they take initiative to do it because they're playing for 772 00:37:55,560 --> 00:37:58,520 Speaker 6: their coach. So for me, anytime a guy can rally 773 00:37:58,560 --> 00:38:02,319 Speaker 6: you up like that, doing your job. Now, how it's 774 00:38:02,400 --> 00:38:08,760 Speaker 6: utilized and how the tight ends usage was underutilized. Again, again, 775 00:38:08,880 --> 00:38:11,439 Speaker 6: I don't know how much of that was right to say. Yeah, 776 00:38:11,480 --> 00:38:14,359 Speaker 6: and so I back to what we were saying about 777 00:38:14,400 --> 00:38:17,440 Speaker 6: Robert Prince, like, I don't know, but I do think 778 00:38:17,880 --> 00:38:20,520 Speaker 6: when guys play for their coach, you get a better 779 00:38:20,560 --> 00:38:21,360 Speaker 6: result overall. 780 00:38:22,040 --> 00:38:25,080 Speaker 10: Yeah, we basing it off of development and that type 781 00:38:25,120 --> 00:38:27,279 Speaker 10: of stuff. I think Lunda has been one of the 782 00:38:27,320 --> 00:38:30,600 Speaker 10: most consistent with being able to develop some of these 783 00:38:30,600 --> 00:38:32,359 Speaker 10: tight ends we know as a whole of the tight 784 00:38:32,440 --> 00:38:35,480 Speaker 10: end room was disappointed as a whole this year, and 785 00:38:35,520 --> 00:38:37,719 Speaker 10: it does put him in a tough spot as a 786 00:38:37,760 --> 00:38:40,439 Speaker 10: coach with the injuries and to deal to lose John 787 00:38:40,440 --> 00:38:44,279 Speaker 10: Stevens Junior again to acl Brevin span Ford came in, 788 00:38:44,360 --> 00:38:46,560 Speaker 10: did some things for you, but it wasn't enough. And 789 00:38:46,600 --> 00:38:49,200 Speaker 10: then you talk about Jake Ferguson. I'm glad you mentioned 790 00:38:49,239 --> 00:38:52,160 Speaker 10: the injuries he also too. 791 00:38:52,320 --> 00:38:53,600 Speaker 7: You know, we didn't get to see him a lot 792 00:38:53,680 --> 00:38:54,279 Speaker 7: and receive an. 793 00:38:54,160 --> 00:38:56,640 Speaker 10: Aspect because baby, he was over there helping at your tackles. 794 00:38:56,880 --> 00:38:57,400 Speaker 6: Yeah. 795 00:38:57,640 --> 00:39:01,600 Speaker 10: Yeah, Like there's just and with the lack of depth 796 00:39:01,719 --> 00:39:05,600 Speaker 10: behind him that is proven, that is performing. It also 797 00:39:05,680 --> 00:39:08,080 Speaker 10: puts the coaching staff in a bind because it's like, 798 00:39:08,200 --> 00:39:10,120 Speaker 10: I can't can't run twelve. 799 00:39:10,200 --> 00:39:11,480 Speaker 7: I can't run thirteen. 800 00:39:11,800 --> 00:39:13,879 Speaker 10: I can't there are certain formations you can't run because 801 00:39:13,880 --> 00:39:15,520 Speaker 10: you don't trust your tight ends to do the job. 802 00:39:15,719 --> 00:39:15,959 Speaker 5: Yep. 803 00:39:16,280 --> 00:39:18,759 Speaker 10: And it is such I'm serious, y'all. Like this room 804 00:39:18,840 --> 00:39:21,680 Speaker 10: is might it is. It's pivotal what happens in this 805 00:39:21,800 --> 00:39:25,080 Speaker 10: room because it limits you so much when you don't 806 00:39:25,080 --> 00:39:26,680 Speaker 10: have tight ends that can get out there and do 807 00:39:26,719 --> 00:39:28,360 Speaker 10: the things you need them to do. They're an extension 808 00:39:28,360 --> 00:39:30,759 Speaker 10: of your offensive line, and now their extension of your 809 00:39:30,800 --> 00:39:33,040 Speaker 10: passing game. They might be a foc upon your passing game. 810 00:39:33,200 --> 00:39:36,480 Speaker 10: I think that Jake Ferguson did struggle when Dak went 811 00:39:36,520 --> 00:39:37,359 Speaker 10: out a lot. 812 00:39:37,320 --> 00:39:39,280 Speaker 7: Of players, a lot of players. 813 00:39:39,320 --> 00:39:42,600 Speaker 10: I think he suffered the most with Dak being out 814 00:39:43,239 --> 00:39:45,840 Speaker 10: because the places where he can attack on the field, 815 00:39:46,440 --> 00:39:50,040 Speaker 10: your backup quarterback was not comfortable throwing like that. 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Well, we don't know my Zimmer if he's 907 00:43:58,960 --> 00:44:01,680 Speaker 4: gonna be retiring if he's interested in still staying in coaching. 908 00:44:01,800 --> 00:44:06,520 Speaker 4: But a pro and con of keeping Mike zimmer A. 909 00:44:06,640 --> 00:44:15,600 Speaker 6: Ki Wow, I love the okay Bi Lingua crows ros 910 00:44:16,120 --> 00:44:20,160 Speaker 6: go to pro pros. I think now that he's learned 911 00:44:20,719 --> 00:44:22,680 Speaker 6: from what he should have done last year, he would 912 00:44:22,719 --> 00:44:25,200 Speaker 6: have a better season this year. Also, pro, you get 913 00:44:25,239 --> 00:44:27,520 Speaker 6: all your guys back from injury and you can actually 914 00:44:27,600 --> 00:44:31,200 Speaker 6: set the system up that you had planned to when 915 00:44:31,239 --> 00:44:33,239 Speaker 6: you wanted to, and you don't have to have a 916 00:44:33,280 --> 00:44:36,240 Speaker 6: watered down, cut down version because of all the injuries. 917 00:44:36,320 --> 00:44:39,600 Speaker 6: So I think that's pro for any DC that steps 918 00:44:39,640 --> 00:44:43,319 Speaker 6: into this position is you have your guys and you 919 00:44:43,360 --> 00:44:46,759 Speaker 6: have your main guys. So yeah, I think that's a 920 00:44:46,800 --> 00:44:48,960 Speaker 6: pro for Mike and the guys know him. It seems 921 00:44:48,960 --> 00:44:51,480 Speaker 6: like the guys were growing very fond of him and 922 00:44:51,719 --> 00:44:55,879 Speaker 6: spoke well of him in the locker room, and so yeah, 923 00:44:55,880 --> 00:44:58,840 Speaker 6: I also think a pro is you don't have another 924 00:44:58,960 --> 00:45:03,600 Speaker 6: DC come in here. I mean you're talking Jeron Bland 925 00:45:03,600 --> 00:45:08,759 Speaker 6: has had a new DC every single season of his 926 00:45:09,040 --> 00:45:13,040 Speaker 6: career so far. Stability would be great. So any path 927 00:45:13,120 --> 00:45:16,279 Speaker 6: to stability I'm all for. That's a pro. That's where I'm. 928 00:45:16,200 --> 00:45:23,040 Speaker 8: At Butch you gobri pro for Zimmer because it is experience, 929 00:45:23,320 --> 00:45:25,960 Speaker 8: it is leadership, it is he proven he can do 930 00:45:26,080 --> 00:45:29,200 Speaker 8: with lesser. He's figured it out with this team, which 931 00:45:29,239 --> 00:45:31,719 Speaker 8: I'm very scared is going to struggle another season with 932 00:45:31,760 --> 00:45:34,600 Speaker 8: having an offensive identity. So at least that is one 933 00:45:34,719 --> 00:45:38,760 Speaker 8: less thing on defense in my mind from Zimmer, because 934 00:45:38,800 --> 00:45:43,920 Speaker 8: it sounds like the coach is going to be a 935 00:45:44,000 --> 00:45:48,240 Speaker 8: lesser experienced candidate regardless of who comes in. At this point, 936 00:45:48,280 --> 00:45:53,160 Speaker 8: they're not paying the big bucks for the big guns, 937 00:45:53,360 --> 00:45:57,160 Speaker 8: and we know Ben Johnson is out, and that was 938 00:45:57,320 --> 00:45:59,560 Speaker 8: the only person that kind of made sense in my 939 00:45:59,680 --> 00:46:02,880 Speaker 8: mind that was like the young, take a chance, creative, 940 00:46:03,239 --> 00:46:06,360 Speaker 8: whatever have you. But like you said to these players, 941 00:46:06,440 --> 00:46:09,960 Speaker 8: respects him. He's proven himself. Now if he wants to 942 00:46:09,960 --> 00:46:12,120 Speaker 8: come back, that is a whole different conversation. 943 00:46:12,400 --> 00:46:13,719 Speaker 6: But I don't think it. 944 00:46:15,320 --> 00:46:17,680 Speaker 8: I wouldn't I wouldn't change when I say clean house 945 00:46:17,760 --> 00:46:19,840 Speaker 8: offense and defense sounds painful. 946 00:46:20,719 --> 00:46:23,319 Speaker 7: No, it does. It hurts unless you're gonna, you know, 947 00:46:23,600 --> 00:46:27,360 Speaker 7: draft free agency foundation. 948 00:46:28,520 --> 00:46:32,360 Speaker 6: I don't get too crazy over there, be greedy. 949 00:46:32,719 --> 00:46:38,600 Speaker 7: So I'll definitely agree with you. Definitely agree with you, ladies, 950 00:46:39,000 --> 00:46:41,040 Speaker 7: and some of the pros that you mentioned. 951 00:46:41,080 --> 00:46:42,759 Speaker 10: I think one of the biggest pros to me is 952 00:46:42,840 --> 00:46:45,319 Speaker 10: going to be the fact that I believe that zimmer 953 00:46:45,400 --> 00:46:47,920 Speaker 10: system is very relevant to what this NFL looks like. 954 00:46:47,960 --> 00:46:52,640 Speaker 10: You're dealing with mobile quarterbacks, you're dealing with a lot 955 00:46:52,640 --> 00:46:54,640 Speaker 10: of younger quarterbacks as well right now. 956 00:46:54,760 --> 00:46:56,839 Speaker 7: In his system, it really. 957 00:46:56,840 --> 00:47:00,399 Speaker 10: Folks, really makes you have to read what he is doing. 958 00:47:00,640 --> 00:47:02,560 Speaker 10: It's not just cut and dry lineup. 959 00:47:02,600 --> 00:47:03,239 Speaker 7: Can they do that? 960 00:47:03,280 --> 00:47:07,160 Speaker 10: Sometimes if focuses on stopping the run, it doesn't emphasize turnovers, 961 00:47:07,160 --> 00:47:08,120 Speaker 10: but turnovers will. 962 00:47:08,000 --> 00:47:09,360 Speaker 7: Come to you if you're in position. 963 00:47:09,440 --> 00:47:14,800 Speaker 10: It is a disciplined, very versatile scheme. So that's a 964 00:47:14,880 --> 00:47:17,799 Speaker 10: pro to me because it's gonna continue, like what he 965 00:47:17,920 --> 00:47:20,240 Speaker 10: likes to do is gonna continue. Also to you ladies 966 00:47:20,239 --> 00:47:23,120 Speaker 10: mentioned that it's another year of him having you know, 967 00:47:23,200 --> 00:47:25,320 Speaker 10: these guys like they had some trouble getting the scheme, 968 00:47:25,360 --> 00:47:27,000 Speaker 10: as towards the end of the season they got it, 969 00:47:27,040 --> 00:47:29,600 Speaker 10: all those good things blah blah blah. But one of 970 00:47:29,640 --> 00:47:32,480 Speaker 10: the cons I would say to bringing Zimmer back, and 971 00:47:32,560 --> 00:47:34,839 Speaker 10: he's probably one of the only cons, is the fact 972 00:47:34,880 --> 00:47:40,239 Speaker 10: that this foolishness that is going on right now is 973 00:47:41,160 --> 00:47:44,040 Speaker 10: we've heard this man speak about the fact that coming 974 00:47:44,200 --> 00:47:47,000 Speaker 10: back to football was a decision that he made for 975 00:47:47,560 --> 00:47:48,719 Speaker 10: sentimental reasons. 976 00:47:48,760 --> 00:47:50,560 Speaker 7: But also too, is that he has a love for 977 00:47:50,600 --> 00:47:54,600 Speaker 7: the game. This is a circus. We don't even know. 978 00:47:54,760 --> 00:47:57,040 Speaker 7: He don't even know right now who his head coach is. 979 00:47:57,080 --> 00:48:00,200 Speaker 10: If he is gonna be here yea who wants like 980 00:48:00,280 --> 00:48:02,759 Speaker 10: again to our original point at the beginning of this conversation, 981 00:48:03,280 --> 00:48:06,240 Speaker 10: these men have families, These men, these men have lives. 982 00:48:06,400 --> 00:48:08,319 Speaker 10: They have other things in their career that they might 983 00:48:08,360 --> 00:48:10,799 Speaker 10: want to pursue, and they are being held up right 984 00:48:10,840 --> 00:48:14,080 Speaker 10: now to some extent, or they weren't. 985 00:48:13,800 --> 00:48:17,839 Speaker 7: Held up to go pursue other opportunities. There's no certainty here. 986 00:48:18,440 --> 00:48:19,560 Speaker 7: So it also too is. 987 00:48:19,520 --> 00:48:21,239 Speaker 10: Like, is you are they gonna bring Zimmer back on 988 00:48:21,239 --> 00:48:23,320 Speaker 10: a one year deal? Because it sounds like listening to 989 00:48:23,400 --> 00:48:24,319 Speaker 10: his pressors, that. 990 00:48:24,360 --> 00:48:25,520 Speaker 7: Is not something he wants. 991 00:48:26,040 --> 00:48:28,920 Speaker 10: He wants somewhere where he can have some stability, and 992 00:48:28,960 --> 00:48:31,400 Speaker 10: I get that. So for me, the con to bringing 993 00:48:31,480 --> 00:48:33,680 Speaker 10: him back will be the fact that he's coming. 994 00:48:33,400 --> 00:48:33,960 Speaker 7: Back in here. 995 00:48:34,680 --> 00:48:36,640 Speaker 10: Yeah, we talking about the scheme, the system, all this, 996 00:48:36,719 --> 00:48:39,520 Speaker 10: but what if the new head coach is like na umbro, 997 00:48:40,160 --> 00:48:42,000 Speaker 10: That's not what I want to do. Because they can. 998 00:48:43,120 --> 00:48:46,560 Speaker 10: I mean, so, I don't know. That's probably my biggest. 999 00:48:46,400 --> 00:48:48,000 Speaker 7: Con with bringing Zimmer back. 1000 00:48:48,160 --> 00:48:50,000 Speaker 4: All right, Well, hopefully we have some new coaching news 1001 00:48:50,000 --> 00:48:52,160 Speaker 4: next Tuesday, because that's when we will be back here 1002 00:48:52,200 --> 00:48:55,040 Speaker 4: on Girls Talk BOYSTOK, presented by a visit line for 1003 00:48:55,160 --> 00:48:57,560 Speaker 4: Ashan Morris and j Justinvars. Brianna Aldrich. 1004 00:48:57,600 --> 00:48:59,200 Speaker 5: I'm the callect just said, we'll see all back here 1005 00:48:59,360 --> 00:48:59,839 Speaker 5: next week. 1006 00:49:01,480 --> 00:49:01,719 Speaker 6: Question. 1007 00:49:02,320 --> 00:49:04,200 Speaker 15: I'm just working that. 1008 00:49:04,400 --> 00:49:07,360 Speaker 1: This has been a production of Dallascowboys dot Com and 1009 00:49:07,520 --> 00:49:10,440 Speaker 1: the Dallas Cowboys Football Club.