1 00:00:03,480 --> 00:00:07,560 Speaker 1: Welcome to the Bloomberg Law Podcast. I'm June Grosso. Every 2 00:00:07,640 --> 00:00:10,440 Speaker 1: day we bring you insight and analysis into the most 3 00:00:10,480 --> 00:00:13,399 Speaker 1: important legal news of the day. You can find more 4 00:00:13,480 --> 00:00:18,040 Speaker 1: episodes of the Bloomberg Law Podcast on Apple Podcasts, SoundCloud, 5 00:00:18,320 --> 00:00:22,239 Speaker 1: and on Bloomberg dot com slash podcasts. As Supreme Court 6 00:00:22,360 --> 00:00:25,320 Speaker 1: nominee Brett Kavanaugh prepares to answer questions from the Senate 7 00:00:25,360 --> 00:00:28,760 Speaker 1: Judiciary Committee, Democrats and the Senate are continuing their efforts 8 00:00:28,800 --> 00:00:31,120 Speaker 1: to derail the hearings, which they tried to put off 9 00:00:31,160 --> 00:00:34,920 Speaker 1: this morning. Speaking with ABC's This Week, Wisconsin Republican Senator 10 00:00:35,000 --> 00:00:41,000 Speaker 1: Ron Johnson dismissed democratic concerns. Democrats have more enough information 11 00:00:41,040 --> 00:00:43,960 Speaker 1: to understand that this is a highly qualified jurist that 12 00:00:44,000 --> 00:00:46,800 Speaker 1: should be the next Supreme Court justice. In an earlier time, 13 00:00:46,880 --> 00:00:50,520 Speaker 1: thirty years ago, he would have passed unanimously. It's unfortunate 14 00:00:50,520 --> 00:00:54,200 Speaker 1: that Ted Kennedy began this process of very divisive confirmation 15 00:00:54,240 --> 00:00:58,400 Speaker 1: battles for the Supreme Court joining us as justin excuse 16 00:00:58,400 --> 00:01:00,640 Speaker 1: me joining us as justin? Driver professor with the University 17 00:01:00,680 --> 00:01:04,200 Speaker 1: of Chicago Law School and author of the Schoolhouse Gate, 18 00:01:04,280 --> 00:01:07,039 Speaker 1: Public Education, the Supreme Court and the Battle for the 19 00:01:07,080 --> 00:01:11,920 Speaker 1: American mind. Justin let's start with the Democrats attempts to 20 00:01:12,000 --> 00:01:15,080 Speaker 1: put off the hearing because of they say, there's a 21 00:01:15,120 --> 00:01:19,319 Speaker 1: hundred thousand documents withheld on the doctrine of executive privilege, 22 00:01:19,319 --> 00:01:23,160 Speaker 1: and forty two thousand were released last night, which the 23 00:01:23,520 --> 00:01:29,240 Speaker 1: which only have the which only the committee has access to. Yes, 24 00:01:30,000 --> 00:01:33,720 Speaker 1: this is quite a remarkable scene that unfolded in the 25 00:01:33,800 --> 00:01:38,240 Speaker 1: United States Senate today where Democratic senators were saying that 26 00:01:38,280 --> 00:01:42,240 Speaker 1: we need to postpone this. Uh, and including a number 27 00:01:42,240 --> 00:01:46,520 Speaker 1: of protesters, were getting up. And I think that's attributable 28 00:01:46,640 --> 00:01:50,920 Speaker 1: to the sense that this is a momentous nomination to 29 00:01:51,280 --> 00:01:55,440 Speaker 1: the Supreme Court. And Uh. The Republicans counter, of course, 30 00:01:55,480 --> 00:01:58,160 Speaker 1: with respect to the documents, and say that this nominee 31 00:01:58,240 --> 00:02:03,720 Speaker 1: has released more doctor events then the last five nominees 32 00:02:03,760 --> 00:02:07,600 Speaker 1: to the Supreme Court combined. But that is indicative of 33 00:02:07,680 --> 00:02:13,119 Speaker 1: exactly how long a paper trail Judge Kavanaugh has behind him. 34 00:02:13,600 --> 00:02:17,119 Speaker 1: So he just listened to the senators making their opening statements. 35 00:02:17,480 --> 00:02:21,760 Speaker 1: Did you hear anything that struck you, anything unusual? Or 36 00:02:21,880 --> 00:02:24,440 Speaker 1: was it in the mold of what you expect the 37 00:02:24,480 --> 00:02:27,560 Speaker 1: Democrats to say and what you expect Republicans to say? 38 00:02:28,000 --> 00:02:31,680 Speaker 1: You know, I think that some of the most remarkable 39 00:02:31,760 --> 00:02:35,880 Speaker 1: utterances in the Senate chamber today came not from people 40 00:02:35,880 --> 00:02:41,560 Speaker 1: who were miked, but instead the protesters who were there. 41 00:02:41,600 --> 00:02:46,240 Speaker 1: There were a number of women who were in and 42 00:02:46,280 --> 00:02:49,480 Speaker 1: around the Senate dressed up in costumes from the Handmaiden's 43 00:02:49,520 --> 00:02:52,480 Speaker 1: tail and I was watching the hearings and I heard 44 00:02:52,520 --> 00:02:56,760 Speaker 1: a number of women get up and Protestant have to 45 00:02:56,760 --> 00:03:02,240 Speaker 1: be physically removed, and the you know, the main reason 46 00:03:02,320 --> 00:03:04,840 Speaker 1: for those protests, as far as I could discern, was 47 00:03:05,400 --> 00:03:09,200 Speaker 1: they believe that a Justice Kavanaugh would be the fifth 48 00:03:09,280 --> 00:03:15,400 Speaker 1: vote to overturn ROVERSUS Wade and women's reproductive rights. Looking 49 00:03:15,480 --> 00:03:19,080 Speaker 1: at his past opinions, and particularly there is an opinion 50 00:03:19,080 --> 00:03:22,919 Speaker 1: that's mentioned about a young girl seeking an abortion who 51 00:03:23,040 --> 00:03:27,160 Speaker 1: was in custody of immigration officials. What's your opinion of 52 00:03:27,240 --> 00:03:31,760 Speaker 1: whether he is at fifth vote? Uh? My sense is 53 00:03:31,840 --> 00:03:36,520 Speaker 1: that Justice Kavanaugh, if he's confirmed, would be the fifth 54 00:03:36,600 --> 00:03:41,280 Speaker 1: vote to roll back roversus Wade. UM. It's not to 55 00:03:41,360 --> 00:03:45,360 Speaker 1: say that that would happen all in one fell swoop, 56 00:03:45,520 --> 00:03:50,320 Speaker 1: but one could imagine uh in erosion. Over time, Judge 57 00:03:50,360 --> 00:03:55,160 Speaker 1: Kavanaugh has gone out of his way UM, including UH 58 00:03:55,200 --> 00:03:59,240 Speaker 1: in statements not on the bench to praise a dissent 59 00:03:59,560 --> 00:04:02,920 Speaker 1: in ro versus Wade, and he suggested that this brought 60 00:04:02,960 --> 00:04:06,320 Speaker 1: the Supreme Court into terrain that it did not belong. 61 00:04:06,880 --> 00:04:11,640 Speaker 1: That's a highly unusual statement. So I don't think that 62 00:04:12,320 --> 00:04:15,880 Speaker 1: people should be surprised at all if Judge Kavanaugh ends 63 00:04:15,960 --> 00:04:19,359 Speaker 1: up being the fifth vote on on getting rid of 64 00:04:19,440 --> 00:04:24,640 Speaker 1: ro versus Wade. Yeah. Justin he reportedly told Senator Susan Collins, 65 00:04:24,640 --> 00:04:27,800 Speaker 1: Republican from Maine, who has looked at by Democrats as 66 00:04:27,800 --> 00:04:31,320 Speaker 1: a possible vote against him, that he saw Roe v. 67 00:04:31,480 --> 00:04:35,320 Speaker 1: Wade as quote settled law. Does that tell you anything 68 00:04:35,360 --> 00:04:38,200 Speaker 1: about his opinions about Roe v. Wade or what he 69 00:04:38,279 --> 00:04:43,599 Speaker 1: might do in the future. It tells you nothing. What's soever, 70 00:04:44,400 --> 00:04:49,960 Speaker 1: It is settled law until it becomes unsettled law. And uh, 71 00:04:50,000 --> 00:04:54,360 Speaker 1: you know that's not a guarantee of anything going forward. 72 00:04:54,600 --> 00:04:59,640 Speaker 1: That is a uh statement about what currently exists, rather 73 00:04:59,680 --> 00:05:03,400 Speaker 1: than on what he would do. So, uh, you know, 74 00:05:03,520 --> 00:05:08,120 Speaker 1: people have been making these statements without subtle law. But obviously, uh, 75 00:05:08,200 --> 00:05:12,679 Speaker 1: Supreme Court justices are not, uh you know, duty bound 76 00:05:12,760 --> 00:05:15,920 Speaker 1: to here to precedent no matter what. And the Roberts 77 00:05:15,920 --> 00:05:21,600 Speaker 1: Court recently got rid of a major labor law in 78 00:05:21,640 --> 00:05:24,960 Speaker 1: the form of the Janus opinion dealing with union sees, 79 00:05:25,000 --> 00:05:29,120 Speaker 1: and so there's no guarantee that today's law will be 80 00:05:29,160 --> 00:05:34,719 Speaker 1: good tomorrow. What other legal areas do you see Kavanaugh 81 00:05:34,760 --> 00:05:38,800 Speaker 1: having an impact on the Court's rulings. Yeah, Well, it's 82 00:05:38,839 --> 00:05:42,839 Speaker 1: important to keep in mind who Judge Kavanaugh would be replacing, 83 00:05:42,920 --> 00:05:45,800 Speaker 1: and that of course is his former boss. It's got 84 00:05:45,960 --> 00:05:49,120 Speaker 1: this Anthony Kennedy, and to think about how their years 85 00:05:49,200 --> 00:05:52,560 Speaker 1: may depart. There are two that spring to mind. The 86 00:05:52,680 --> 00:05:58,440 Speaker 1: first deals with affirmative action, race conscious admissions practices. UH 87 00:05:58,720 --> 00:06:05,479 Speaker 1: Justice Kennedy was an improbable savior of affirmative action in 88 00:06:05,720 --> 00:06:11,240 Speaker 1: the UH Fisher case most recently, and looking at Judge 89 00:06:11,279 --> 00:06:14,800 Speaker 1: Kavanaugh's extracurricular writings, it seems to me that he is 90 00:06:14,839 --> 00:06:18,080 Speaker 1: a skeptic of affirmative action. And there are several cases 91 00:06:18,080 --> 00:06:20,280 Speaker 1: that are making their way through the lower courts right 92 00:06:20,320 --> 00:06:23,360 Speaker 1: now that our challenges to affirmtive action, and so that 93 00:06:23,839 --> 00:06:26,599 Speaker 1: UH could those days could be numbered. The second area 94 00:06:26,640 --> 00:06:30,760 Speaker 1: that I identified that Kavanaugh's vote could be controlling and 95 00:06:30,800 --> 00:06:34,480 Speaker 1: moved the Court in a conservative direction would be with 96 00:06:34,520 --> 00:06:41,360 Speaker 1: respect to religion in public schools. UH Justice Kennedy UM 97 00:06:41,560 --> 00:06:47,560 Speaker 1: authored an important opinion UH keeping religion out of public schools, 98 00:06:47,839 --> 00:06:53,920 Speaker 1: and UH Judge Kavanaugh has filed an amicus brief saying 99 00:06:53,960 --> 00:06:57,000 Speaker 1: that he thinks there should be greater ability for there 100 00:06:57,000 --> 00:06:59,200 Speaker 1: to be religion in public schools. So those are two 101 00:06:59,240 --> 00:07:01,680 Speaker 1: hot button issue us that could very well move in 102 00:07:01,720 --> 00:07:06,400 Speaker 1: a conservative direction if Judge Kavanaugh is confirmed. Justin he 103 00:07:06,480 --> 00:07:10,520 Speaker 1: has been going through herings and murder boards to try 104 00:07:10,560 --> 00:07:14,080 Speaker 1: to get him ready for these For these particular questions 105 00:07:14,120 --> 00:07:16,880 Speaker 1: by the Democratic senators, is there any way that they 106 00:07:16,880 --> 00:07:20,960 Speaker 1: can get an answer to questions that previous UH Supreme 107 00:07:20,960 --> 00:07:27,520 Speaker 1: Court nominees have refused to answer? So I the tradition 108 00:07:27,640 --> 00:07:32,000 Speaker 1: is that not very much of consequence happens during UH 109 00:07:32,200 --> 00:07:36,080 Speaker 1: these events. There are some occasional moments of surprise, and 110 00:07:36,120 --> 00:07:41,880 Speaker 1: they need not come incidentally UH from hostile questioners. The 111 00:07:41,960 --> 00:07:47,880 Speaker 1: Judge Bourke was nominated to the Supreme Court in and 112 00:07:48,200 --> 00:07:52,720 Speaker 1: one of his UH less good moments was when he 113 00:07:52,760 --> 00:07:55,280 Speaker 1: was asked by a friendly senator, why do you want 114 00:07:55,280 --> 00:07:58,440 Speaker 1: to be on the Supreme Court and his response was, well, 115 00:07:58,480 --> 00:08:01,800 Speaker 1: I think it would be an intellect tool feast UH, 116 00:08:01,800 --> 00:08:05,760 Speaker 1: and this was regarded understandably as being out of touch 117 00:08:06,960 --> 00:08:10,000 Speaker 1: with the American public and ordinary people on the way 118 00:08:10,080 --> 00:08:13,720 Speaker 1: that law as sects their lives. So h, thank you 119 00:08:13,760 --> 00:08:16,320 Speaker 1: so much, Justin. We've run out of time. Appreciate your 120 00:08:16,880 --> 00:08:20,280 Speaker 1: implications there. Justin Driver, professor at the University of Chicago 121 00:08:20,360 --> 00:08:27,960 Speaker 1: Law School. Democrats have complained about hidden documents and Brett 122 00:08:28,000 --> 00:08:31,320 Speaker 1: Kavanaugh Supreme Court confirmation hearings, but the White House and 123 00:08:31,400 --> 00:08:35,160 Speaker 1: Republican lawmakers remained confident that Kavanaugh will be approved by 124 00:08:35,160 --> 00:08:38,559 Speaker 1: the Senate. Speaking with Fox News Sunday, Senator Lindsey Graham 125 00:08:38,559 --> 00:08:41,560 Speaker 1: said the Appeals Court judge will likely even gain some 126 00:08:41,640 --> 00:08:45,280 Speaker 1: Democratic support if he does well at the hearing. He 127 00:08:45,320 --> 00:08:48,640 Speaker 1: will get My belief is fifty five or higher if 128 00:08:48,640 --> 00:08:50,959 Speaker 1: he does well, and I'm sure he will do will 129 00:08:52,000 --> 00:08:56,200 Speaker 1: joining us as Greg Store, Bloomberg News Supreme Court reporter, Well, Greg, 130 00:08:56,280 --> 00:08:59,600 Speaker 1: if the Democrats do what they did this morning, it 131 00:08:59,640 --> 00:09:02,880 Speaker 1: seems likely that this will go through rather quickly. It does. 132 00:09:03,520 --> 00:09:06,719 Speaker 1: Chuck Grasslely, the committee chairman, seem as if he's going 133 00:09:06,760 --> 00:09:10,800 Speaker 1: to hold them to a tight timeline. Well, he's he's 134 00:09:11,080 --> 00:09:14,480 Speaker 1: uh giving Democrats a little bit of latitude to complain 135 00:09:14,559 --> 00:09:18,360 Speaker 1: about the process. So for the first hour this morning. Uh. 136 00:09:18,440 --> 00:09:22,000 Speaker 1: Democrats repeatedly interrupted the chairman UH as he was trying 137 00:09:22,000 --> 00:09:25,360 Speaker 1: to proceed with the hearing to complain about not receiving 138 00:09:25,400 --> 00:09:29,360 Speaker 1: all those documents. So UH, Senator grassly said, I'm basically said, 139 00:09:29,360 --> 00:09:31,480 Speaker 1: I'm gonna hear you out, but then we're gonna move on. 140 00:09:31,840 --> 00:09:33,840 Speaker 1: Now they have moved on to the opening statements, and 141 00:09:33,840 --> 00:09:36,560 Speaker 1: and the hearings moving more quickly. Yes, he said, he said, 142 00:09:36,679 --> 00:09:38,800 Speaker 1: I believe he said something the effect that's easier for 143 00:09:38,840 --> 00:09:41,000 Speaker 1: me to just listen to you than to than to 144 00:09:41,080 --> 00:09:43,600 Speaker 1: stop you from from talking. So just talk. And then 145 00:09:43,640 --> 00:09:46,280 Speaker 1: he ruled the way we knew he would rule in 146 00:09:46,320 --> 00:09:48,560 Speaker 1: the beginning. So, now, did you have you heard anything 147 00:09:48,559 --> 00:09:51,880 Speaker 1: in the opening statements that surprised you in any way? Now, 148 00:09:51,920 --> 00:09:54,360 Speaker 1: so much of this is predictable, predictable, and maybe all 149 00:09:54,400 --> 00:09:57,640 Speaker 1: of it is predictable. Uh. Democrats, in addition to the documents, 150 00:09:57,679 --> 00:10:00,680 Speaker 1: are complaining substantively about things like they're are worried that 151 00:10:00,679 --> 00:10:03,200 Speaker 1: that Roe v. Wade will be overturned. They're talking about 152 00:10:03,679 --> 00:10:07,160 Speaker 1: the Muller investigation. Uh, in the prospect that a Justice 153 00:10:07,200 --> 00:10:10,240 Speaker 1: Kavanaugh would help shield President Trump. They're talking about his 154 00:10:10,320 --> 00:10:14,240 Speaker 1: record on on regulatory issues. Siding with business interests. These 155 00:10:14,240 --> 00:10:16,680 Speaker 1: are all areas that they they foreshadowed would would be 156 00:10:16,720 --> 00:10:19,199 Speaker 1: of interest to them. Now we know that they're going 157 00:10:19,240 --> 00:10:22,720 Speaker 1: to ask about Roe v. Wade. That's the you know, 158 00:10:22,760 --> 00:10:26,240 Speaker 1: the main area where it seems that they're going to focus. 159 00:10:26,320 --> 00:10:29,280 Speaker 1: What other areas might they be focusing on? Well? Uh, 160 00:10:29,520 --> 00:10:33,040 Speaker 1: Senator white House just finished his opening statement, and he 161 00:10:33,160 --> 00:10:35,880 Speaker 1: spent a lot of time talking about not just a 162 00:10:35,960 --> 00:10:39,560 Speaker 1: Brett Kavanaugh, but the Roberts Court and its record UH 163 00:10:39,600 --> 00:10:42,400 Speaker 1: inciding with corporate interests. He talked about the Citizens United 164 00:10:42,440 --> 00:10:47,760 Speaker 1: campaign finance decision. UH, he talked about UH allowing companies 165 00:10:47,800 --> 00:10:51,199 Speaker 1: to enforce arbitration agreements. So this will be not just 166 00:10:51,360 --> 00:10:54,880 Speaker 1: a discussion of Judge Kavanaugh's record and what he would 167 00:10:54,880 --> 00:10:57,440 Speaker 1: bring to the court, as a discussion of where the 168 00:10:57,440 --> 00:11:02,400 Speaker 1: court already is. So greg when you saw Kavanaughs the 169 00:11:02,440 --> 00:11:05,400 Speaker 1: preview of his statement, his opening statement, did it remind 170 00:11:05,440 --> 00:11:08,240 Speaker 1: you of another Supreme Court justice? Yeah? It was certainly 171 00:11:08,240 --> 00:11:12,120 Speaker 1: remarkable that he used the umpire metaphor that now Chief 172 00:11:12,200 --> 00:11:16,480 Speaker 1: Justice John Roberts famously used in his confirmation hearing. UH. 173 00:11:16,600 --> 00:11:18,400 Speaker 1: That that has drawn a lot of criticism from people 174 00:11:18,400 --> 00:11:19,840 Speaker 1: who don't agree with him in a lot of a 175 00:11:19,880 --> 00:11:24,400 Speaker 1: lot of subjects. Um, you know, because the argument goes uh, 176 00:11:24,440 --> 00:11:26,480 Speaker 1: you know, sometimes it's it's not a clear cut case 177 00:11:26,480 --> 00:11:28,640 Speaker 1: of being a ball and strike or a ball or strike. 178 00:11:28,880 --> 00:11:31,800 Speaker 1: Sometimes you have to use your judgment. Uh. And and 179 00:11:31,840 --> 00:11:35,000 Speaker 1: Democrats are questioning the judgment of the people that Republican 180 00:11:35,040 --> 00:11:38,359 Speaker 1: presidents are putting on the court. Is there any indication 181 00:11:38,679 --> 00:11:43,600 Speaker 1: that any of the Republican votes are wavering at all? No, 182 00:11:43,600 --> 00:11:47,000 Speaker 1: none whatsoever, especially that in the committee. The Republicans on 183 00:11:47,040 --> 00:11:49,800 Speaker 1: the Committee are very solid. They see Judge Kavanaugh as 184 00:11:49,880 --> 00:11:54,120 Speaker 1: both being highly qualified in somebody who's committed to uh, 185 00:11:54,800 --> 00:11:56,599 Speaker 1: looking at the law as it's written, not as he 186 00:11:56,800 --> 00:12:00,360 Speaker 1: would want it to be. The Republicans we've been watching 187 00:12:00,400 --> 00:12:04,400 Speaker 1: throughout this process are folks like Senator Susan Collins, who 188 00:12:04,520 --> 00:12:07,800 Speaker 1: is in favor of abortion rights. But she has said 189 00:12:07,840 --> 00:12:11,640 Speaker 1: that in her private conversation with with Judge Kavanaugh that 190 00:12:11,720 --> 00:12:15,880 Speaker 1: he told her he views Rovie Wade as settled precedent, 191 00:12:15,880 --> 00:12:18,560 Speaker 1: a settled precedent of the Supreme Court. And she suggested 192 00:12:18,600 --> 00:12:22,000 Speaker 1: that for her that's good enough. Alright, Well, we know 193 00:12:22,280 --> 00:12:25,880 Speaker 1: that settled precedent means that it's settled until it's overturned 194 00:12:25,880 --> 00:12:29,440 Speaker 1: by the Supreme Court, as we know from Judge Gorstch 195 00:12:29,480 --> 00:12:32,680 Speaker 1: who joined the majority last year in overturning the settled 196 00:12:32,679 --> 00:12:38,160 Speaker 1: precedent in union cases. So let's talk about some of 197 00:12:38,200 --> 00:12:41,920 Speaker 1: what we may hear from the Democrats. Will will we 198 00:12:42,000 --> 00:12:46,640 Speaker 1: hear direct attacks on his opinions because he has a 199 00:12:46,720 --> 00:12:50,400 Speaker 1: lot of opinions that that show that he is of 200 00:12:50,440 --> 00:12:53,800 Speaker 1: a conservative bent. Yeah, there certainly will be. And and 201 00:12:53,840 --> 00:12:56,920 Speaker 1: really for Democrats, they have, even though they're complaining about 202 00:12:56,960 --> 00:12:59,439 Speaker 1: not receiving more material, they have a huge amount of 203 00:12:59,520 --> 00:13:01,559 Speaker 1: stuff in the have to decide what lines of attacks 204 00:13:01,559 --> 00:13:05,480 Speaker 1: are going to they're going to use. Um. Certainly, as 205 00:13:05,480 --> 00:13:07,240 Speaker 1: a judge on the Federal Appeals Court here in d C. 206 00:13:07,480 --> 00:13:11,200 Speaker 1: He has handled a huge number of regulatory cases, and 207 00:13:11,240 --> 00:13:15,440 Speaker 1: his record there is generally to limit what ages agencies 208 00:13:15,480 --> 00:13:19,080 Speaker 1: can do, limit their ability to regulate the environment and 209 00:13:19,120 --> 00:13:22,280 Speaker 1: regulate the internet. Uh, that will be a prime area 210 00:13:22,320 --> 00:13:25,719 Speaker 1: of attack. And certainly Roevie Wade will be something that 211 00:13:25,760 --> 00:13:28,960 Speaker 1: will come up over and over again because Justice Kennedy, 212 00:13:28,960 --> 00:13:31,520 Speaker 1: who has now left the Court was indeed the fifth 213 00:13:31,600 --> 00:13:34,920 Speaker 1: vote UM that was clearly on the side of abortion rights. 214 00:13:35,400 --> 00:13:38,440 Speaker 1: Right now, if if Judge Kavanaugh was confirmed. Roevie Wade 215 00:13:38,600 --> 00:13:42,640 Speaker 1: will be in some jeopardy and executive power is going 216 00:13:42,720 --> 00:13:45,680 Speaker 1: to come into play here. What is his opinion his 217 00:13:45,840 --> 00:13:48,280 Speaker 1: latest opinion on executive power, because he seemed to have 218 00:13:48,280 --> 00:13:51,199 Speaker 1: bounced around a little. Yeah, it will be very interesting 219 00:13:51,240 --> 00:13:55,040 Speaker 1: to hear him discuss that. So you have executive power 220 00:13:55,080 --> 00:13:59,280 Speaker 1: costal services coming up with you know, an expiration of contracts, 221 00:13:59,280 --> 00:14:02,240 Speaker 1: so there was going to be a renewal of contacts 222 00:14:02,240 --> 00:14:05,000 Speaker 1: coming up, and all you know is the president uh, 223 00:14:05,480 --> 00:14:09,640 Speaker 1: you know, able to basically squash the Mueller probe, for example, 224 00:14:09,679 --> 00:14:15,360 Speaker 1: squash the U. S Attorneys probe uh into into Michael Cohen. Uh. 225 00:14:15,559 --> 00:14:20,080 Speaker 1: In those questions of kind of presidential immunity from investigations, 226 00:14:20,080 --> 00:14:24,680 Speaker 1: those two subjects are uh somewhat closely linked. UM on 227 00:14:24,880 --> 00:14:28,880 Speaker 1: both of those, well, on the latter one. Brett Kavanaugh 228 00:14:28,880 --> 00:14:30,800 Speaker 1: has said a number of things over the years. His 229 00:14:30,880 --> 00:14:36,600 Speaker 1: position has clearly evolved over his twenty year career, UM, 230 00:14:36,640 --> 00:14:39,760 Speaker 1: and it will be interesting to hear whether he will 231 00:14:39,760 --> 00:14:42,160 Speaker 1: say anything that sheds light light on how he might 232 00:14:42,240 --> 00:14:45,360 Speaker 1: rule if an issue involving an investigation of President Trump 233 00:14:45,480 --> 00:14:47,920 Speaker 1: comes before the Supreme Court. I think that some of 234 00:14:47,920 --> 00:14:50,360 Speaker 1: the centers are even going to ask him to recuse himself. 235 00:14:50,360 --> 00:14:53,400 Speaker 1: Would he recuse himself in advance? And we know what 236 00:14:53,480 --> 00:14:55,800 Speaker 1: the answer to that will be. Thank you so much, Greg. 237 00:14:56,240 --> 00:14:59,600 Speaker 1: That's Greg Store, Bloomberg News Supreme Court reporter. Thanks for 238 00:14:59,680 --> 00:15:02,920 Speaker 1: listening to the Bloomberg Law Podcast. You can subscribe and 239 00:15:03,000 --> 00:15:06,240 Speaker 1: listen to the show on Apple podcast, SoundCloud, and on 240 00:15:06,320 --> 00:15:11,040 Speaker 1: Bloomberg dot com slash podcast. I'm June Grasso. This is 241 00:15:11,080 --> 00:15:11,720 Speaker 1: Bloomberg