Speaker 1: I'm thrilled. I'm about to have a two part podcast
Speaker 1: series with Maddie and Tay. We had so much fun
Speaker 1: and so much goodness and soulful inspiration and just talk
Speaker 1: about journey, what it's like to be a woman in
Speaker 1: the music entertainment industry, how they stay grounded. They're each
Speaker 1: so different. Maddie and Tay both have a different way
Speaker 1: of expressing themselves. Tay is more introverted and Maddie is
Speaker 1: more extroverted, and they have figured out this way that
Speaker 1: works for them, and they talk all about it and
Speaker 1: talk about how important it is to be real and authentic.
Speaker 1: They're going to share all about their new music and
Speaker 1: why this is the most personal album they have ever made.
Speaker 1: And we're gonna do it in two parts. So here's
Speaker 1: part one of Maddie and Ta Cave. She's a queen
Speaker 1: of talking got this. Hey, y'all, it's Caroline Hobby and
Speaker 1: welcome to my show, Get Real from the Music City
Speaker 1: capital of the World. In each episode, I get the
Speaker 1: real story from the most inspiring, interesting people in Nashville, Tennessee.
Speaker 1: I have done everything in the music entertainment industry. I
Speaker 1: was in the trio stealing angels with two top fifty
Speaker 1: country charting songs, a finalist and runner up on season
Speaker 1: twenty two and season twenty four of The Amazing Race.
Speaker 1: You can currently catch me on CMTS hit show I
Speaker 1: Love Kelly Pickler. I am an entertainment news correspondent and
Speaker 1: host for the TV show Nashville Insider, and my podcast,
Speaker 1: Get Real with Caroline Hobby was featured on iTunes New
Speaker 1: and Noteworthy and charted on iTunes Top two podcast. I'm
Speaker 1: also married to the smoking hot front man Michael Hobby
Speaker 1: of the number one chart topping band A Thousand Horses.
Speaker 1: So buckle up and get ready to get real with me,
Speaker 1: Caroline Hobby. Welcome to my show. I'm so excited about
Speaker 1: going to be married to day. I love these girls.
Speaker 1: Talked about empowered women. That is them. We're talking about everything,
Speaker 1: real life, touring, how they do it all, what their
Speaker 1: soul's calling is, how they found it many day. Oh
Speaker 1: my god, I have a way to dinner room forever
Speaker 1: do it? I were striking coffee. Wait, this is a
Speaker 1: cute Monday. I really need a day between Saturday Sunday.
Speaker 1: Why haven't they? How does you totally thing? Like, Hey,
Speaker 1: can we create a day between and that day's totally
Speaker 1: day at our relaxation, and it just allowed me. This
Speaker 1: is the comfy count. I love this. Hey, you know
Speaker 1: what that slow? We really need a day. I watched
Speaker 1: it on someonech It's it's really Monday is today, isn't it? Ything?
Speaker 1: So good? You guys. So this is our first podcast
Speaker 1: we've ever oh yeah, but it was like one of
Speaker 1: my goals this year to do some podcasting. Are you serious?
Speaker 1: And so I can do your first one, you know?
Speaker 1: And I listened to years all the time, like right
Speaker 1: before I get on flights. It's like I haven't downloaded
Speaker 1: the new ones yet because I'm not falling out to
Speaker 1: like Friday, but the new ones I'm gonna be getting
Speaker 1: on Thursday night and making sure that I have them. Girls,
Speaker 1: Oh my god. I listened the last ones where Mallory
Speaker 1: urban and j just southern, I don't even know around
Speaker 1: just just just paying, just totally totally. I just listened
Speaker 1: to those and I love them. I just you do
Speaker 1: really well at your job, like this is really this
Speaker 1: is the perfect thing for you to do. Oh my gosh.
Speaker 1: I appreciate that guy. I feel like, as women we
Speaker 1: should do that more like remind each other like you're
Speaker 1: doing a really good job well, and that is I'm
Speaker 1: so glad to bring that up because I have been
Speaker 1: on a soul searching mission lately, just trying to figure out,
Speaker 1: like what am I contributing to the world. What can
Speaker 1: I bring to people that would inspire them that I
Speaker 1: have access to? And I'm like, Okay, I'm already doing
Speaker 1: these podcasts interviewing the most interesting people. But really what
Speaker 1: my fan bases is women, most of them totally, and
Speaker 1: they want to know about empowered women, right and how
Speaker 1: you do what you do and how you like find
Speaker 1: your calling and the real life struggles of what looks
Speaker 1: like impowered women, like behind the scenes of what it
Speaker 1: takes to become Because Instagram it's like talking about perfect
Speaker 1: and lovely and it's like, wait, no, she has terrible days.
Speaker 1: Sometimes you look in the me and you're like, girl,
Speaker 1: you are not cute. What's going on? Get it together?
Speaker 1: So I know I saw the way all the time.
Speaker 1: The other day, this is when I realized that my
Speaker 1: audience wants to hear about real life women stuff totally.
Speaker 1: Because the other day I posted this video on Instagram
Speaker 1: and I was pretty much back in every day, and
Speaker 1: I was just like, back, I mean in my underwear,
Speaker 1: and I posted a picture of it. But then I
Speaker 1: thought to myself, I'm about to make every other person
Speaker 1: feel like total ship if they don't feel like they're
Speaker 1: vacuum their underwear for their man or what it's like,
Speaker 1: you know, because everyone's like, oh my god, trying to
Speaker 1: be sexy. But I was that I showed. Then I
Speaker 1: was like, okay, I have to show the other half
Speaker 1: of this, and I sat down. I showed like all
Speaker 1: my fat roles because I'm getting eight pounds hush, just
Speaker 1: like recently a pound, which is totally fine. But I
Speaker 1: was just like, here's the real life back. It's not
Speaker 1: right entirely. And I got two hund messages in two hours.
Speaker 1: I've never gotten that in my whole life. So I
Speaker 1: was like, this is what people want to talk about,
Speaker 1: real life stuff. I'm so with you, Like I love
Speaker 1: like the surface stuff is so boring, Like I love
Speaker 1: just like getting in the soul, like take this, how
Speaker 1: did you explain it? The oh my gosh, Okay, so
Speaker 1: I've known Maddie for seven years. We've known each other
Speaker 1: for seven How old are you guys? Because 'all are
Speaker 1: so young and so wise. But we were like fifteen sixteen,
Speaker 1: like she was fifteen string sixteen, and you know, we've
Speaker 1: known ited it for seven years, but it's like every
Speaker 1: day we learned something new about each other because that's
Speaker 1: just how it is. It's basically like a marriage, oh
Speaker 1: for sure. And every day you just like learn new
Speaker 1: cowirk or learn new whatever. And so it's taken Maddie
Speaker 1: probably like several years because I like to think of
Speaker 1: myself as you bird, so explain that what I mean.
Speaker 1: She makes fun of me because I call myself unique
Speaker 1: and not straight. No, she called herself weird, and I said,
Speaker 1: you're not weird, and tell me why what makes you?
Speaker 1: I'm a very private, like even though what I do
Speaker 1: for um a living or career is like very vulnerable
Speaker 1: and open and yeah public, I'm still a really private person,
Speaker 1: even with me and even to like stuff. And she's
Speaker 1: like my closest friend and I've known it for seven
Speaker 1: years and so you think, but I'm still just like
Speaker 1: really really private. But Maddie's like that kind of friend
Speaker 1: that sorry, I got to set my coffee mug, dumb.
Speaker 1: She's that kind of friend that, like, no matter how
Speaker 1: hard you don't want her to be in your heart.
Speaker 1: I wanted to be in my heart, but like, see
Speaker 1: my heart, she just like takes these clyers and just
Speaker 1: like like a crane, just like just like I get
Speaker 1: one arm and I'm like, I she can reach anyone.
Speaker 1: So like you're so many people that have said that
Speaker 1: about her, But yeah, I just want wiggle my way
Speaker 1: into people. So y'all kind of yain And yeah, I
Speaker 1: want to talk to you about that because I feel
Speaker 1: like a lot of women do have a hard time
Speaker 1: opening up, Like why is it that? When? When is
Speaker 1: it being vulnerable? Is it like putting yourself out there?
Speaker 1: Like because you know people can be so harsh and
Speaker 1: like the feedback or having letting someone in and giving
Speaker 1: them the ability to judge you on something that maybe
Speaker 1: you don't want anyone else's opinion, a little bit of
Speaker 1: all that just knowing the risk of Okay, I'm about
Speaker 1: to tell all these people this is what my heart
Speaker 1: looks like. How are they going to receive that? Or
Speaker 1: are they gonna like it? Or are they gonna hate it?
Speaker 1: And you know, people are very open about their opinions
Speaker 1: and how they feel, and sometimes it's not easy to
Speaker 1: make exactly, and it's not easy to shut those things out.
Speaker 1: So I think that it's a little bit of all that,
Speaker 1: just like the fear. But Mattie and I have gone
Speaker 1: to the point where, you know, the people that like
Speaker 1: us are gonna like this and those that don't. Totally,
Speaker 1: I feel like she's opened up. So yeah, just everything
Speaker 1: we've gone through with our career in the past year
Speaker 1: has definitely taught me a lot about just being secure
Speaker 1: and myself and the things that I go through are
Speaker 1: just going to make me better and asking for help.
Speaker 1: I think that's another problem not do okay, talk to
Speaker 1: me about that. Oh my gosh, Okay, I have I
Speaker 1: had to figure that out the hard way because our
Speaker 1: first year like out in about like because you guys
Speaker 1: came onto the scene and y'all came in with girl
Speaker 1: in a country song and blew this world. I mean truly,
Speaker 1: because that was the first song and this bro error,
Speaker 1: which for all you guys listening, I don't know if
Speaker 1: people outside of Nashville notice, but there's like this bro
Speaker 1: thing happening where all these bro it's like the Bro Club.
Speaker 1: It's yeah, talk to me about that and how your
Speaker 1: song changed that because y'all really did something very different,
Speaker 1: it was probably very scary to put out there. The
Speaker 1: interesting part with grow in a Country song was when
Speaker 1: we turned that song in there was a couple of
Speaker 1: people in the industry that told us that it could
Speaker 1: not be played on radio and no one would ever
Speaker 1: play it, no one would ever support it because it
Speaker 1: was too much. It was basically you're saying yeah, where
Speaker 1: we were just like, hey, every chick in these songs
Speaker 1: that are being played on the radio or in some
Speaker 1: bikini they have, they're not saying anything. They just look hot.
Speaker 1: And all the music videos is these freaking girls with
Speaker 1: perfect bodies like climbing out of the lake, and I'm like,
Speaker 1: what the freak like is that? That is not like,
Speaker 1: let's let's be real here and absolutely just like doating
Speaker 1: over the guy and I'm just like that. It's just
Speaker 1: but it's crazy because that conversation alone, someone looking at
Speaker 1: us and telling us that girl on country song could
Speaker 1: never seegle out of day, could have stopped our career
Speaker 1: right there exactly because are so young, so new, so
Speaker 1: impressionable at that were when we wrote this vulnerable and
Speaker 1: guy told you that didn't yea so dude probably told
Speaker 1: you that, and so someone looking you and I when
Speaker 1: you're just like wanting to impress everyone and make a
Speaker 1: print on this town, which is so hard to do.
Speaker 1: We could have just said, okay, you know what, we tried,
Speaker 1: We're going to go home, but it's no, We're like, no,
Speaker 1: we really think this message needs to we heard. So
Speaker 1: it's a drop push for it. Oh yeah. Yeah. We
Speaker 1: played it at around and then we got a record deal,
Speaker 1: so it was like, I mean, this is the thing.
Speaker 1: There was mixed feelings where it's like there's some people
Speaker 1: that were like, don't play it, like that's going to
Speaker 1: be a mess, and then some people were like just
Speaker 1: tryal whatever, So we I mean, and then when we
Speaker 1: started playing it out, like before we got on the road,
Speaker 1: there was times where we were we were writers around
Speaker 1: with men that you know, had written songs like that,
Speaker 1: and it was so awkward for them because it was
Speaker 1: like we played this song and they're like, oh crap,
Speaker 1: like my song is totally like just making a woman
Speaker 1: look like just a little side piece, like she's not valued.
Speaker 1: And you know what, I'll tell you and I turned
Speaker 1: on country radio now and we're not the reason for
Speaker 1: this I think there's just so many conversations that have
Speaker 1: been started the past like five years about equality and
Speaker 1: empowerment for women and everything. But I haven't heard any
Speaker 1: of those songs in a long time where I just
Speaker 1: felt like, as a woman, like I'm such a country
Speaker 1: music fan. I want to be a fan of all
Speaker 1: the guys, all the girls, kind of everyone. But when
Speaker 1: I would hear these songs, you know, like four years
Speaker 1: ago when we wrote girl, I was like, I don't
Speaker 1: want to be that. I don't want to be that
Speaker 1: chip because I have nothing to say. I want to
Speaker 1: have value. I don't just want to be some little
Speaker 1: because I don't look like the model in that video.
Speaker 1: I don't relate to you know what I mean like
Speaker 1: and you know, and that's what you're going for. You
Speaker 1: want to go for your talent. You have rain your
Speaker 1: brain total. So you guys wanted to show your empowered side,
Speaker 1: which is sometimes hard to figure out. Like I know,
Speaker 1: in my twenties, I would get so much praise and
Speaker 1: I would be sexy. And actually I had a friend,
Speaker 1: a young friend of mine, and I just had lunch
Speaker 1: with the other day. He's like making her way in
Speaker 1: the music industry and she's just naturally very sexy. She
Speaker 1: loves to dance, that's her thing. But it's like, what
Speaker 1: how do you navigate that? Because that whole being sexy
Speaker 1: and being empowered. I think you can do them both.
Speaker 1: But it is like back in how it used to
Speaker 1: be the voice that girls are sexy. That's it, and
Speaker 1: you really we don't really care about what you have
Speaker 1: to say. My advice would be in or at least
Speaker 1: the way that I So I don't really give off
Speaker 1: like a sultry vibe. I'm more of like just a
Speaker 1: like a very like friend zony vibe with guys, but yeah, friends,
Speaker 1: But with that stuff, I would say, like pick your moments.
Speaker 1: So it's like if you carpet you feel like, you
Speaker 1: know what, I really want to feel sexy. There's been
Speaker 1: times where I'm like, you know, I tell our style
Speaker 1: is I'm like, I want to I want to feel sexy.
Speaker 1: I want to feel like a woman, and like I
Speaker 1: don't really have a ton of curves, but I just
Speaker 1: want to show, you know, like not you know, show everything.
Speaker 1: I'm just feel good, it feels sexy. But then you know,
Speaker 1: like when we walk into a radio station and you know,
Speaker 1: most of country radio is really great about this, Like
Speaker 1: it's not we haven't ran into it as much as most.
Speaker 1: We've ran into a couple of times. But when I
Speaker 1: know that we're going into a radio station, it's a
Speaker 1: business thing. It's like this is our work. I'm like,
Speaker 1: I'm not going to have my boobs out. I'm not
Speaker 1: gonna wear booty shorts because for me, I don't feel
Speaker 1: sexy that way. I feel sexy when they are listening
Speaker 1: to what I have to say, and I feel sexy
Speaker 1: when they are like really grasping the message. So it's
Speaker 1: like no distraction, Yeah, no when to um like know
Speaker 1: what your sexy is for each environment. So it's like that.
Speaker 1: It's like with your man, it's one thing. With your girlfriends,
Speaker 1: it's one thing. Because like her and I we were
Speaker 1: like when we went to Jamaica for this show that
Speaker 1: we were doing, it was like a thing for a
Speaker 1: radio station. I was like, girl, I'm up where a
Speaker 1: bathing suit. I'm gonna have a booty cheeth because it
Speaker 1: was like, you know, there wasn't a ton of people,
Speaker 1: it wasn't business or anything. But when it was time
Speaker 1: for business, it was like, yeah, I want them to
Speaker 1: pay attention. To my brain, and I think to also
Speaker 1: love that and play a little bit of Devil's advocate,
Speaker 1: because there's two sides of it all, you know, for women,
Speaker 1: because I'm very much on the same side of her
Speaker 1: as where I feel most confident when people are understanding
Speaker 1: me and I feel like they're listening to me and
Speaker 1: viewing me as you know, an equal and not as
Speaker 1: a sexual being. But for some weeks, for some women,
Speaker 1: it's you know, they want to rely on their sexuality
Speaker 1: and they want to rely on their attractiveness and their looks,
Speaker 1: and that's totally fine. I think that's also the route
Speaker 1: you take. Being comfortable and just knowing that your strength
Speaker 1: and what you choose to put out there and just
Speaker 1: rocket like, don't put it out there and then and
Speaker 1: and like the ore. Whatever it is, if it's your sexuality,
Speaker 1: if it's your writing, if it's you're singing, if you
Speaker 1: just want to play guitar, like, whatever it is, just
Speaker 1: stick to that and know that that's your strength and
Speaker 1: don't be afraid that that is your strength. And that
Speaker 1: also brings me to another thing I really want to
Speaker 1: focus on, which is soulfull living, like living from your soul,
Speaker 1: feeling like living parts. It is harder. I feel that
Speaker 1: way because you have to dig in every day. You
Speaker 1: do that, Okay, so explain to me. Because you girls
Speaker 1: have been through so much. You've been top of the world, superstars,
Speaker 1: and then you've seen like transition, you've seen everything it's been,
Speaker 1: which is what this industry is, and everyone just sees
Speaker 1: the high row. But now with Instagram, actually feel like
Speaker 1: people are getting to see more of the real stuff,
Speaker 1: which is right. But how do you find how do
Speaker 1: you get to your soul and live from your soul
Speaker 1: every day? Like what are your techniques to do that
Speaker 1: without getting lost in this world? That's a great question.
Speaker 1: I think for me, the way that I recharge in
Speaker 1: general is my alone time. And I also find that
Speaker 1: my alone time and being quiet with myself is also
Speaker 1: how I reach my soul. And you're just able to
Speaker 1: listen to your own thoughts with them, which I think
Speaker 1: is important because we live in a society where it's
Speaker 1: very easy to be persuade or pressure to think a
Speaker 1: certain way or have a certain opinion, and you kind
Speaker 1: of forget what is my own opinion on this? Do
Speaker 1: I even have a feeling or is it suade by what?
Speaker 1: Someone else thinks. So I think just taking the time
Speaker 1: to listen to yourself total and see I'm opposite. So
Speaker 1: you've done, Like can who are you guys? I'm number two,
Speaker 1: I'm the helper. Okay, what are you? Number four? The
Speaker 1: romantic So I'm emotional. Every friends are romantic. Floor He's
Speaker 1: a four and she's a nine. I'm a nine. You're
Speaker 1: a peacemaker. Made like our whole family take the Instagram
Speaker 1: and then we all had to compare it. It has
Speaker 1: so for me, I'm like so extroverted, and I like,
Speaker 1: this is how my soul gets feeled, like you talking
Speaker 1: about this, so like the way that I like, if
Speaker 1: there's something wrong or I'm like hurting or something, if
Speaker 1: I talk to someone and I like talk it out,
Speaker 1: I feel great. Like our manager Haley, she has been
Speaker 1: one of the most influential people in our career and
Speaker 1: just one of our favorite people to be around. But
Speaker 1: she um has this system with me where she knows
Speaker 1: when I'm upset and so she's like, let's just talk
Speaker 1: about Like I'll just call you and I'm like, oh, no,
Speaker 1: you're busy, and then I just like talk it out.
Speaker 1: She's like, oh, then you're good. You're good. You're not
Speaker 1: having a mouthdown. You're totally good, no breakdown. I'm like,
Speaker 1: oh yeah, I just needed to say it. I just
Speaker 1: didn't have to get it out. They have a backboard.
Speaker 1: But someone who has good knowledge, yes, And I love
Speaker 1: like getting like I feel like when I get to
Speaker 1: know someone else's heart, I like get to note mine
Speaker 1: a little more too. I see that you know what
Speaker 1: I'm absolutely you see similarities. You're like, oh, okay, this
Speaker 1: is this is soul living to connecting on this. Yeah,
Speaker 1: what is your thing? I'm curious because I want to
Speaker 1: I want to integrate, like I need to do alone time.
Speaker 1: I'm just really bad at it because I love to
Speaker 1: be around people. I don't like being by myself. Very
Speaker 1: needy listening as are a handful, are a handful. But
Speaker 1: I envy you guys because y'all, I don't know if
Speaker 1: every four is this way. But reading y'all, obviously I have.
Speaker 1: I read on it just to know my boyfriend better.
Speaker 1: But um, it says that y'all are very comfortable. Not comfortable,
Speaker 1: it's comfortable the wrong word. But you are aware of
Speaker 1: your feelings and so aweeling exactly and see as a nine,
Speaker 1: I'm like, oh gosh, I push it away. It's like
Speaker 1: it doesn't exist. So I envied that side of you. Guys.
Speaker 1: I think that's so impressive that you're able to look
Speaker 1: at your heart. You know. I am feeling that because
Speaker 1: I don't show from acting some kind of way and
Speaker 1: I'm like, why am I acting like this? And I'm not.
Speaker 1: That's another can break that down because I feel like
Speaker 1: so many people do that. I do that too as
Speaker 1: a four. Yeah. Also, but it's like I can easily
Speaker 1: figure out what somebody needs for me, or if someone
Speaker 1: has a very big personality, I can easily be like, Okay,
Speaker 1: this is your personality, how can I fit into your
Speaker 1: vibe totally? But then I don't myself, so I'm trying
Speaker 1: not to do that. Yeah, I get like that to
Speaker 1: where like I want to accommodate or like I just
Speaker 1: are like, for example, I won't I won't like say names.
Speaker 1: But we went and played this show like a week ago,
Speaker 1: and there was like one guy that had like a
Speaker 1: really big personality and he and he meant well, but
Speaker 1: he kept just doing like weird stuff, like saying real
Speaker 1: weird things, and so I was like, how can I
Speaker 1: like not make you look so uncomfortable because you are
Speaker 1: being uncomfortable, But like, how can I make it to
Speaker 1: where this isn't as awkward as it actually is? Like
Speaker 1: you know, right? And so I feel like I'm always
Speaker 1: trying to accommodate that, Like even if it's someone else
Speaker 1: is being weird, I'm like, yeah, someone saying even if
Speaker 1: I'm saying some like and she's like, what she means
Speaker 1: is like thanks, I just wanted your message exactly, Like
Speaker 1: she's really good about the part of me is like,
Speaker 1: why am I trying to cater to everyone? Like why
Speaker 1: can't I just walk? Because women? I know, why do
Speaker 1: women do that? What? My mom was like that too,
Speaker 1: Like she caters to every single person but herself. But
Speaker 1: now she is, you know, in her fifties. What happened
Speaker 1: in her fifties? How did she what? She went through
Speaker 1: a lot of stuff. So my grandfather passed away in February,
Speaker 1: and so her yeah, her dad, and so that kind
Speaker 1: of tru she's just been through a like her brother
Speaker 1: passed away really tragically a couple of years ago, and um,
Speaker 1: she's just because she's just a tough cookie and she's
Speaker 1: super mom and super wife and just like always extra
Speaker 1: mile every everything. She works full time and like has
Speaker 1: a huge position at an oil and gas company in Houston,
Speaker 1: so she works with like all men. Like it's like
Speaker 1: her and one other woman. She just handles that she's
Speaker 1: just the best. But growing up I saw her and
Speaker 1: and your mom too because she's the same way. But
Speaker 1: they your mom just does so much and Dad's do
Speaker 1: a lot too, But women can multitask and do it
Speaker 1: all at the same time, can be like one thing
Speaker 1: and the thing is like men, I feel like with
Speaker 1: my dad, he can do one thing so freakingerfectly, like
Speaker 1: like put so much focus in it and crush and
Speaker 1: then mom does like ten things and like five of
Speaker 1: them are great, you know, because there's five other things
Speaker 1: that she just doesn't have time for you. And then
Speaker 1: that's why women are always like spinning place to stress
Speaker 1: as so many hats. Totally do you feel like with
Speaker 1: your husband you have to like delegate where it's like, Okay,
Speaker 1: I have literally fifteen things I need to like just
Speaker 1: like can you do this? Can you do this? I
Speaker 1: know I normally do it, but can you do this
Speaker 1: for me? With Michael, it's really interesting because he's an
Speaker 1: artist obviously, what's his indiogram? He is a seven should
Speaker 1: that's a good guy. He's just great because he is
Speaker 1: the good time guy. Me, what is the seven called.
Speaker 1: It's a good not the achiever. It's like adventure basically.
Speaker 1: It's like basically they he wants to have a good
Speaker 1: time all the time. If he can avoid hitting onto
Speaker 1: heavy deep topics he's going to he will go into
Speaker 1: and like I will force him to go down in
Speaker 1: his habit hoole. That's how you work so well together
Speaker 1: because I basically forced him into therapy with me every
Speaker 1: day because I just chatted out with me as a therapist. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's why I'm like for me, like, I've like thought
Speaker 1: about going to therapy because I like, I just hear
Speaker 1: amazing things and it could just be I do go
Speaker 1: to therapy and change my life. See, I feel like
Speaker 1: I need to do it time. I'm like, I talk
Speaker 1: so much about how I'm feeling to people, Like it's
Speaker 1: like my dad's kind of my therapist. My mom she is, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I need to like actually do that. One day, I
Speaker 1: went to therapy together before we got married, went to
Speaker 1: therapy together because we went we were together four years.
Speaker 1: We broke up two years and then we got back together,
Speaker 1: and I was like my free marital or was free
Speaker 1: marital and we eloped and so I was like, that's
Speaker 1: what he wants to do. I'll tell you everything. Okay,
Speaker 1: we'll talk about that next. But I was like I
Speaker 1: had helped myself so much with therapy because I was
Speaker 1: going like every week for a year when we were
Speaker 1: broken up, and he was like growing in his own way.
Speaker 1: But I was basically like, we're not getting back together
Speaker 1: and gonna do this if we don't get our heads rightly.
Speaker 1: So Smart the therapist is amazing because she broke our
Speaker 1: personalities down to three people. She's like, you have your
Speaker 1: wounded child and her name is Susie, and she's at
Speaker 1: the estuary child, what happened to you when you were
Speaker 1: a child that like imprinted you, scarred you, like hurt
Speaker 1: you so badly that your middle chair manipulator is trying
Speaker 1: to avoid that pain at all costs to your middle
Speaker 1: chair manipulator is spinning plates, trying to ever touch on
Speaker 1: those hot buttons. But then you come over here to
Speaker 1: your third chair, which is your truth chair, and that's
Speaker 1: just the truth, what is real, the facts and so
Speaker 1: she would make Michael and I go through all of
Speaker 1: our stuff and then she'd be like, op, you're talking
Speaker 1: from your first chair, so we'd have to go sit
Speaker 1: in the first chair and she'd be like, now what
Speaker 1: would your truth chair? Saying she makes sit in the
Speaker 1: truth chair until we could figure out what our truth was.
Speaker 1: And that was so helpful. It was so helpful just
Speaker 1: to like realize, I have so many people have been
Speaker 1: here and most of them are crazy, but here's the truth.
Speaker 1: I mean, the way compartmentalizing to me is like it
Speaker 1: fixes everything everything when you're able to view things as
Speaker 1: they are in different so it's not just one jumbled
Speaker 1: mess that you're looking. That's just like chatting. You're actually
Speaker 1: getting tools to help yourself. You're like, oh, I'm in
Speaker 1: my middle chair, manipulator, and that would be like, oh,
Speaker 1: you're in your middle chair anymore. Because we've find so
Speaker 1: good just like living this life. That's awesome. But we'd
Speaker 1: be in the beginning and be like, oh, you're in
Speaker 1: your middle chair, totally shooting the moment chair, and then
Speaker 1: you'd be like a moored to doing that. I really
Speaker 1: want to do that whole thing because I've been with
Speaker 1: my guy for seven years. And so yeah, so we
Speaker 1: were together in high school for a year, broke up
Speaker 1: for a year, and then got back together and it
Speaker 1: was like on like Peo were like and adually, how
Speaker 1: did you handle your fame exploding and your career exploding
Speaker 1: while navigating this relationship? So he knew me when I
Speaker 1: went to my first like vocal lesson before I even
Speaker 1: met take, like him and I were baking. So he
Speaker 1: doesn't like, he loves who I am, not what I do.
Speaker 1: So it's really nice to come home and he just
Speaker 1: doesn't He's proud, but he doesn't really care. And um,
Speaker 1: you know, he's like super supportive and everything, but for him,
Speaker 1: he's just like, go do your thing, like go do you.
Speaker 1: But I will say with being together for so long,
Speaker 1: we have figured out that both of us have amazing parents.
Speaker 1: But obviously every person goes through different childhood memories and
Speaker 1: things kind of pop up and things will trigger, you know,
Speaker 1: hard memories, great memories, you know, stuff like that, and
Speaker 1: so we have been figuring out like our seventh year,
Speaker 1: I feel like it's all about digging that stuff up
Speaker 1: and like talking about it. Like I know, like there's
Speaker 1: certain things that if I do like it brings him
Speaker 1: back to his childhood of like really hurt things and
Speaker 1: I can't do that, Like like that's some say with me,
Speaker 1: But I never really thought about that until like this year.
Speaker 1: We've been just like sitting down with a bottle of
Speaker 1: line and just doing the word out totally, like doing
Speaker 1: the dirty work where you just get and and that's
Speaker 1: the one thing with like Instagram, everyone's like, oh, relationship goals.
Speaker 1: I'm like, it's not relationship goals until you dig deep
Speaker 1: in there to that. And so many people, I feel like,
Speaker 1: don't do that with their relationship and so then they
Speaker 1: end up being in love with this person. And obviously
Speaker 1: some people like you date and it's not a match
Speaker 1: and you should break up, right, But if you go
Speaker 1: to the point where you're going the distance, you're thinking
Speaker 1: about marriage, you're in this thing to win it. I
Speaker 1: feel like so many people don't do that, Diggy, But
Speaker 1: really that is what's gonna, I feel like, save you
Speaker 1: in the long run, because it's gonna come out. It's
Speaker 1: totally going to come out more than yes. Yeah, yes,
Speaker 1: that's also wisem iniogram changed my life because when you're
Speaker 1: able for me, if I was to like get in
Speaker 1: a disagreement with somebody, I would take everything that they
Speaker 1: said very personally. They're like, oh, like I'm sensitive, that
Speaker 1: hurt my feelings and I would make it all about
Speaker 1: me and not realizing that that's just their personality. If
Speaker 1: they want to take things, you know what I mean,
Speaker 1: it's them not e going to do with me. There
Speaker 1: do their perspective, their way of looking at things. It
Speaker 1: has nothing to do with me. And that was something
Speaker 1: about the Instagram that I've learned cause I know my
Speaker 1: parents Instagram and it hurts, you know, like my brother,
Speaker 1: like you're loved at you. It's like change my life.
Speaker 1: And I've been able to love people in a way
Speaker 1: that I've I've never been able because you're able to
Speaker 1: see how they understand, understand them, and love and cherish
Speaker 1: them for all of their quirks and realized you don't
Speaker 1: match on all the time and you don't have to,
Speaker 1: you know what. I feel like both of us have
Speaker 1: learned a lot the past couple of years. And for
Speaker 1: me this was really hard because I grew up in
Speaker 1: Texas in a very conservative household. Like my dad's very strong,
Speaker 1: like very very just like hardheaded, like in a great way,
Speaker 1: but just that Texas, that Texas stubbornness all up in
Speaker 1: my family. But I have learned, like make relationships with
Speaker 1: people that are opposite of you, So like, don't just
Speaker 1: hang out with people that are like you. Don't just
Speaker 1: hang out with cultures with you know, with your career,
Speaker 1: with whatever it is, like it makes it up. Always
Speaker 1: put someone different and new in your life and like
Speaker 1: try to learn from them. Because I totally was guilty
Speaker 1: of just hanging out with people that were like me
Speaker 1: because I understood them and then it didn't challenge you
Speaker 1: and scared and then for us, like going through as
Speaker 1: much as we've been through the past two years, I
Speaker 1: was like, I have to understand her, Like I know
Speaker 1: when I was hurting, I needed to call her and
Speaker 1: tell her I was hurting, and she listened to me.
Speaker 1: And I was always like why didn't Why isn't she
Speaker 1: telling me what's wrong? And she's like the way that
Speaker 1: I deal it was like, yeah, she needs her time
Speaker 1: and then she'll call me when its internalize everything. So
Speaker 1: how what is that? Like? What goes on when you're
Speaker 1: so basically like what do you mean? Like when it's
Speaker 1: okay to say something happens. Something happens that was not desirable,
Speaker 1: say like a big career speed bump happ totally totally
Speaker 1: that like you're not wanting to happen. Um, So immediately
Speaker 1: I go on my brain. I feel like it's Mandy
Speaker 1: and I talked about this movie all the time, but
Speaker 1: inside out, Yes, you kids, movie, you have to go.
Speaker 1: So it's a movie and it's basically about this girl
Speaker 1: and all of the emotions that live inside your head.
Speaker 1: Sounds so crazy. I don't have a different so it's
Speaker 1: like all it's like animated and it's all the little
Speaker 1: like emotions in your head, so anger, um, happy, sad, hungry,
Speaker 1: like whatever. And for me, it's easy for me to
Speaker 1: kind of go inside because I can't if someone says
Speaker 1: something to me and I need to respond in a
Speaker 1: very mature kind, it's marked way, like I can't do
Speaker 1: it right away. I have to think about it. I
Speaker 1: have to think of the best route. Like I analyze
Speaker 1: every situation. I'm like, Okay, I could say this, but
Speaker 1: then it might lead to this. I could do this,
Speaker 1: but then it might lead to that. So I literally
Speaker 1: in my mind I have to go down every road
Speaker 1: and what it would look like long term before I
Speaker 1: react to anything. I wish I did that just kidding things.
Speaker 1: I'll just say it with a smile though, like you.
Speaker 1: But but in the fault in that is it can
Speaker 1: make people think that I'm disinterested or that I'm not
Speaker 1: hurting because a lot of the times you probably thought
Speaker 1: that I'd like, I don't feel the same way as you. Know.
Speaker 1: I knew, but I was just like waiting. But yeah,
Speaker 1: so a lot of the times it can make people
Speaker 1: think that I'm just like really upset or really angry
Speaker 1: or I don't care. But the really has exploded. In reality,
Speaker 1: I've exploded, and once I figure out which lane I'm
Speaker 1: going to take and then I will react. I know
Speaker 1: you're freaking out and cannot wait to hear part two
Speaker 1: of Maddie and Taste, So y'all gotta hang ontil next week.
Speaker 1: But we're coming back with one more round of the
Speaker 1: incredible Maddie and Tay, and we're going to keep getting
Speaker 1: deeper and deeper into all of their world, all of
Speaker 1: their thoughts, how they cope, how they do this life.
Speaker 1: It's all coming at you next week. So we'll see
Speaker 1: you next week.