WEBVTT - Maddie & Tae (part 1) 0:00:00.920 --> 0:00:04.720 I'm thrilled. I'm about to have a two part podcast 0:00:04.800 --> 0:00:07.920 series with Maddie and Tay. We had so much fun 0:00:08.039 --> 0:00:12.920 and so much goodness and soulful inspiration and just talk 0:00:13.000 --> 0:00:15.160 about journey, what it's like to be a woman in 0:00:15.200 --> 0:00:19.320 the music entertainment industry, how they stay grounded. They're each 0:00:19.400 --> 0:00:21.760 so different. Maddie and Tay both have a different way 0:00:21.760 --> 0:00:25.239 of expressing themselves. Tay is more introverted and Maddie is 0:00:25.280 --> 0:00:28.200 more extroverted, and they have figured out this way that 0:00:28.440 --> 0:00:30.680 works for them, and they talk all about it and 0:00:30.720 --> 0:00:32.920 talk about how important it is to be real and authentic. 0:00:33.720 --> 0:00:35.600 They're going to share all about their new music and 0:00:35.640 --> 0:00:38.280 why this is the most personal album they have ever made. 0:00:38.520 --> 0:00:40.200 And we're gonna do it in two parts. So here's 0:00:40.360 --> 0:00:54.520 part one of Maddie and Ta Cave. She's a queen 0:00:54.640 --> 0:01:09.120 of talking got this. Hey, y'all, it's Caroline Hobby and 0:01:09.160 --> 0:01:11.919 welcome to my show, Get Real from the Music City 0:01:12.000 --> 0:01:14.399 capital of the World. In each episode, I get the 0:01:14.480 --> 0:01:18.959 real story from the most inspiring, interesting people in Nashville, Tennessee. 0:01:19.160 --> 0:01:22.560 I have done everything in the music entertainment industry. I 0:01:22.600 --> 0:01:25.319 was in the trio stealing angels with two top fifty 0:01:25.360 --> 0:01:28.480 country charting songs, a finalist and runner up on season 0:01:28.480 --> 0:01:31.160 twenty two and season twenty four of The Amazing Race. 0:01:31.240 --> 0:01:33.640 You can currently catch me on CMTS hit show I 0:01:33.680 --> 0:01:36.880 Love Kelly Pickler. I am an entertainment news correspondent and 0:01:36.959 --> 0:01:39.959 host for the TV show Nashville Insider, and my podcast, 0:01:40.000 --> 0:01:43.000 Get Real with Caroline Hobby was featured on iTunes New 0:01:43.000 --> 0:01:46.520 and Noteworthy and charted on iTunes Top two podcast. I'm 0:01:46.560 --> 0:01:49.480 also married to the smoking hot front man Michael Hobby 0:01:49.520 --> 0:01:52.240 of the number one chart topping band A Thousand Horses. 0:01:52.280 --> 0:01:55.160 So buckle up and get ready to get real with me, 0:01:55.400 --> 0:02:01.200 Caroline Hobby. Welcome to my show. I'm so excited about 0:02:01.240 --> 0:02:03.680 going to be married to day. I love these girls. 0:02:03.880 --> 0:02:07.880 Talked about empowered women. That is them. We're talking about everything, 0:02:08.360 --> 0:02:11.320 real life, touring, how they do it all, what their 0:02:11.400 --> 0:02:13.520 soul's calling is, how they found it many day. Oh 0:02:13.560 --> 0:02:14.960 my god, I have a way to dinner room forever 0:02:19.800 --> 0:02:23.959 do it? I were striking coffee. Wait, this is a 0:02:24.040 --> 0:02:28.359 cute Monday. I really need a day between Saturday Sunday. 0:02:28.360 --> 0:02:32.840 Why haven't they? How does you totally thing? Like, Hey, 0:02:33.000 --> 0:02:37.560 can we create a day between and that day's totally 0:02:38.040 --> 0:02:40.840 day at our relaxation, and it just allowed me. This 0:02:40.919 --> 0:02:44.080 is the comfy count. I love this. Hey, you know 0:02:44.120 --> 0:02:49.680 what that slow? We really need a day. I watched 0:02:49.680 --> 0:02:54.600 it on someonech It's it's really Monday is today, isn't it? Ything? 0:02:56.280 --> 0:02:59.720 So good? You guys. So this is our first podcast 0:02:59.800 --> 0:03:01.760 we've ever oh yeah, but it was like one of 0:03:01.760 --> 0:03:04.600 my goals this year to do some podcasting. Are you serious? 0:03:05.000 --> 0:03:06.880 And so I can do your first one, you know? 0:03:07.200 --> 0:03:09.399 And I listened to years all the time, like right 0:03:09.440 --> 0:03:11.799 before I get on flights. It's like I haven't downloaded 0:03:11.840 --> 0:03:13.400 the new ones yet because I'm not falling out to 0:03:13.480 --> 0:03:15.920 like Friday, but the new ones I'm gonna be getting 0:03:16.000 --> 0:03:17.800 on Thursday night and making sure that I have them. Girls, 0:03:17.880 --> 0:03:20.919 Oh my god. I listened the last ones where Mallory 0:03:21.040 --> 0:03:24.280 urban and j just southern, I don't even know around 0:03:24.520 --> 0:03:28.840 just just just paying, just totally totally. I just listened 0:03:28.840 --> 0:03:31.240 to those and I love them. I just you do 0:03:31.520 --> 0:03:33.639 really well at your job, like this is really this 0:03:33.680 --> 0:03:36.120 is the perfect thing for you to do. Oh my gosh. 0:03:36.120 --> 0:03:39.320 I appreciate that guy. I feel like, as women we 0:03:39.760 --> 0:03:42.040 should do that more like remind each other like you're 0:03:42.040 --> 0:03:44.280 doing a really good job well, and that is I'm 0:03:44.360 --> 0:03:46.680 so glad to bring that up because I have been 0:03:46.880 --> 0:03:49.839 on a soul searching mission lately, just trying to figure out, 0:03:49.840 --> 0:03:52.520 like what am I contributing to the world. What can 0:03:52.640 --> 0:03:56.600 I bring to people that would inspire them that I 0:03:56.640 --> 0:03:58.600 have access to? And I'm like, Okay, I'm already doing 0:03:58.600 --> 0:04:02.240 these podcasts interviewing the most interesting people. But really what 0:04:02.440 --> 0:04:05.200 my fan bases is women, most of them totally, and 0:04:05.240 --> 0:04:08.720 they want to know about empowered women, right and how 0:04:08.800 --> 0:04:11.200 you do what you do and how you like find 0:04:11.280 --> 0:04:13.960 your calling and the real life struggles of what looks 0:04:14.000 --> 0:04:16.200 like impowered women, like behind the scenes of what it 0:04:16.240 --> 0:04:20.680 takes to become Because Instagram it's like talking about perfect 0:04:20.680 --> 0:04:23.320 and lovely and it's like, wait, no, she has terrible days. 0:04:23.640 --> 0:04:25.360 Sometimes you look in the me and you're like, girl, 0:04:25.440 --> 0:04:28.279 you are not cute. What's going on? Get it together? 0:04:28.400 --> 0:04:31.360 So I know I saw the way all the time. 0:04:31.720 --> 0:04:34.200 The other day, this is when I realized that my 0:04:34.240 --> 0:04:38.080 audience wants to hear about real life women stuff totally. 0:04:38.120 --> 0:04:40.760 Because the other day I posted this video on Instagram 0:04:40.800 --> 0:04:43.280 and I was pretty much back in every day, and 0:04:43.320 --> 0:04:45.120 I was just like, back, I mean in my underwear, 0:04:45.520 --> 0:04:47.400 and I posted a picture of it. But then I 0:04:47.400 --> 0:04:49.799 thought to myself, I'm about to make every other person 0:04:49.960 --> 0:04:52.159 feel like total ship if they don't feel like they're 0:04:52.200 --> 0:04:54.279 vacuum their underwear for their man or what it's like, 0:04:54.440 --> 0:04:56.080 you know, because everyone's like, oh my god, trying to 0:04:56.080 --> 0:04:59.400 be sexy. But I was that I showed. Then I 0:04:59.440 --> 0:05:01.400 was like, okay, I have to show the other half 0:05:01.400 --> 0:05:03.080 of this, and I sat down. I showed like all 0:05:03.120 --> 0:05:05.599 my fat roles because I'm getting eight pounds hush, just 0:05:05.720 --> 0:05:08.279 like recently a pound, which is totally fine. But I 0:05:08.360 --> 0:05:12.160 was just like, here's the real life back. It's not 0:05:12.320 --> 0:05:15.359 right entirely. And I got two hund messages in two hours. 0:05:15.400 --> 0:05:16.880 I've never gotten that in my whole life. So I 0:05:16.920 --> 0:05:18.599 was like, this is what people want to talk about, 0:05:18.720 --> 0:05:21.520 real life stuff. I'm so with you, Like I love 0:05:21.600 --> 0:05:23.960 like the surface stuff is so boring, Like I love 0:05:24.080 --> 0:05:26.880 just like getting in the soul, like take this, how 0:05:26.920 --> 0:05:29.240 did you explain it? The oh my gosh, Okay, so 0:05:29.400 --> 0:05:31.080 I've known Maddie for seven years. We've known each other 0:05:31.160 --> 0:05:32.680 for seven How old are you guys? Because 'all are 0:05:32.680 --> 0:05:37.640 so young and so wise. But we were like fifteen sixteen, 0:05:37.960 --> 0:05:42.400 like she was fifteen string sixteen, and you know, we've 0:05:42.400 --> 0:05:44.200 known ited it for seven years, but it's like every 0:05:44.240 --> 0:05:45.960 day we learned something new about each other because that's 0:05:46.000 --> 0:05:47.880 just how it is. It's basically like a marriage, oh 0:05:47.960 --> 0:05:50.960 for sure. And every day you just like learn new 0:05:51.000 --> 0:05:54.720 cowirk or learn new whatever. And so it's taken Maddie 0:05:54.920 --> 0:05:58.160 probably like several years because I like to think of 0:05:58.200 --> 0:06:03.039 myself as you bird, so explain that what I mean. 0:06:03.680 --> 0:06:05.480 She makes fun of me because I call myself unique 0:06:05.480 --> 0:06:07.719 and not straight. No, she called herself weird, and I said, 0:06:07.720 --> 0:06:11.560 you're not weird, and tell me why what makes you? 0:06:11.920 --> 0:06:14.320 I'm a very private, like even though what I do 0:06:14.440 --> 0:06:18.200 for um a living or career is like very vulnerable 0:06:18.279 --> 0:06:21.520 and open and yeah public, I'm still a really private person, 0:06:21.960 --> 0:06:25.240 even with me and even to like stuff. And she's 0:06:25.279 --> 0:06:28.400 like my closest friend and I've known it for seven 0:06:28.480 --> 0:06:30.599 years and so you think, but I'm still just like 0:06:30.720 --> 0:06:33.120 really really private. But Maddie's like that kind of friend 0:06:33.680 --> 0:06:35.480 that sorry, I got to set my coffee mug, dumb. 0:06:36.560 --> 0:06:38.440 She's that kind of friend that, like, no matter how 0:06:38.440 --> 0:06:41.680 hard you don't want her to be in your heart. 0:06:41.760 --> 0:06:43.039 I wanted to be in my heart, but like, see 0:06:43.080 --> 0:06:46.040 my heart, she just like takes these clyers and just 0:06:46.080 --> 0:06:48.320 like like a crane, just like just like I get 0:06:48.320 --> 0:06:51.560 one arm and I'm like, I she can reach anyone. 0:06:51.680 --> 0:06:53.839 So like you're so many people that have said that 0:06:53.880 --> 0:06:55.920 about her, But yeah, I just want wiggle my way 0:06:55.960 --> 0:06:58.880 into people. So y'all kind of yain And yeah, I 0:06:58.920 --> 0:07:00.599 want to talk to you about that because I feel 0:07:00.640 --> 0:07:02.160 like a lot of women do have a hard time 0:07:02.240 --> 0:07:05.479 opening up, Like why is it that? When? When is 0:07:05.480 --> 0:07:07.720 it being vulnerable? Is it like putting yourself out there? 0:07:07.760 --> 0:07:09.680 Like because you know people can be so harsh and 0:07:09.680 --> 0:07:12.400 like the feedback or having letting someone in and giving 0:07:12.400 --> 0:07:14.720 them the ability to judge you on something that maybe 0:07:14.760 --> 0:07:17.160 you don't want anyone else's opinion, a little bit of 0:07:17.160 --> 0:07:19.559 all that just knowing the risk of Okay, I'm about 0:07:19.600 --> 0:07:21.560 to tell all these people this is what my heart 0:07:21.560 --> 0:07:23.480 looks like. How are they going to receive that? Or 0:07:23.480 --> 0:07:25.640 are they gonna like it? Or are they gonna hate it? 0:07:25.760 --> 0:07:27.840 And you know, people are very open about their opinions 0:07:27.840 --> 0:07:30.160 and how they feel, and sometimes it's not easy to 0:07:30.200 --> 0:07:33.000 make exactly, and it's not easy to shut those things out. 0:07:33.040 --> 0:07:34.920 So I think that it's a little bit of all that, 0:07:35.000 --> 0:07:37.000 just like the fear. But Mattie and I have gone 0:07:37.040 --> 0:07:39.400 to the point where, you know, the people that like 0:07:39.520 --> 0:07:41.800 us are gonna like this and those that don't. Totally, 0:07:41.840 --> 0:07:46.840 I feel like she's opened up. So yeah, just everything 0:07:46.880 --> 0:07:49.120 we've gone through with our career in the past year 0:07:49.120 --> 0:07:52.080 has definitely taught me a lot about just being secure 0:07:52.320 --> 0:07:53.880 and myself and the things that I go through are 0:07:53.920 --> 0:07:55.720 just going to make me better and asking for help. 0:07:55.800 --> 0:07:58.480 I think that's another problem not do okay, talk to 0:07:58.520 --> 0:08:00.760 me about that. Oh my gosh, Okay, I have I 0:08:00.800 --> 0:08:02.560 had to figure that out the hard way because our 0:08:02.600 --> 0:08:05.360 first year like out in about like because you guys 0:08:05.400 --> 0:08:07.440 came onto the scene and y'all came in with girl 0:08:07.440 --> 0:08:12.240 in a country song and blew this world. I mean truly, 0:08:12.240 --> 0:08:14.640 because that was the first song and this bro error, 0:08:14.720 --> 0:08:16.440 which for all you guys listening, I don't know if 0:08:16.440 --> 0:08:18.560 people outside of Nashville notice, but there's like this bro 0:08:18.720 --> 0:08:21.360 thing happening where all these bro it's like the Bro Club. 0:08:21.440 --> 0:08:23.400 It's yeah, talk to me about that and how your 0:08:23.400 --> 0:08:26.080 song changed that because y'all really did something very different, 0:08:26.160 --> 0:08:28.440 it was probably very scary to put out there. The 0:08:28.560 --> 0:08:31.480 interesting part with grow in a Country song was when 0:08:31.480 --> 0:08:33.640 we turned that song in there was a couple of 0:08:33.640 --> 0:08:35.840 people in the industry that told us that it could 0:08:35.840 --> 0:08:38.000 not be played on radio and no one would ever 0:08:38.080 --> 0:08:40.080 play it, no one would ever support it because it 0:08:40.160 --> 0:08:43.360 was too much. It was basically you're saying yeah, where 0:08:43.360 --> 0:08:46.280 we were just like, hey, every chick in these songs 0:08:46.320 --> 0:08:47.880 that are being played on the radio or in some 0:08:48.280 --> 0:08:51.520 bikini they have, they're not saying anything. They just look hot. 0:08:51.559 --> 0:08:54.040 And all the music videos is these freaking girls with 0:08:54.320 --> 0:08:57.920 perfect bodies like climbing out of the lake, and I'm like, 0:08:57.960 --> 0:09:00.360 what the freak like is that? That is not like, 0:09:00.400 --> 0:09:03.320 let's let's be real here and absolutely just like doating 0:09:03.360 --> 0:09:06.320 over the guy and I'm just like that. It's just 0:09:06.920 --> 0:09:09.600 but it's crazy because that conversation alone, someone looking at 0:09:09.640 --> 0:09:11.760 us and telling us that girl on country song could 0:09:11.880 --> 0:09:14.240 never seegle out of day, could have stopped our career 0:09:14.480 --> 0:09:17.640 right there exactly because are so young, so new, so 0:09:17.800 --> 0:09:21.280 impressionable at that were when we wrote this vulnerable and 0:09:21.760 --> 0:09:24.880 guy told you that didn't yea so dude probably told 0:09:24.880 --> 0:09:27.400 you that, and so someone looking you and I when 0:09:27.440 --> 0:09:29.840 you're just like wanting to impress everyone and make a 0:09:30.000 --> 0:09:31.920 print on this town, which is so hard to do. 0:09:32.240 --> 0:09:34.440 We could have just said, okay, you know what, we tried, 0:09:34.600 --> 0:09:36.640 We're going to go home, but it's no, We're like, no, 0:09:36.880 --> 0:09:38.839 we really think this message needs to we heard. So 0:09:38.960 --> 0:09:42.240 it's a drop push for it. Oh yeah. Yeah. We 0:09:42.320 --> 0:09:44.360 played it at around and then we got a record deal, 0:09:44.400 --> 0:09:46.839 so it was like, I mean, this is the thing. 0:09:46.840 --> 0:09:49.079 There was mixed feelings where it's like there's some people 0:09:49.080 --> 0:09:51.079 that were like, don't play it, like that's going to 0:09:51.120 --> 0:09:52.679 be a mess, and then some people were like just 0:09:52.840 --> 0:09:55.880 tryal whatever, So we I mean, and then when we 0:09:55.920 --> 0:09:58.360 started playing it out, like before we got on the road, 0:09:58.440 --> 0:10:00.880 there was times where we were we were writers around 0:10:00.880 --> 0:10:03.200 with men that you know, had written songs like that, 0:10:03.240 --> 0:10:05.400 and it was so awkward for them because it was 0:10:05.480 --> 0:10:07.400 like we played this song and they're like, oh crap, 0:10:07.520 --> 0:10:11.959 like my song is totally like just making a woman 0:10:12.000 --> 0:10:15.960 look like just a little side piece, like she's not valued. 0:10:16.000 --> 0:10:17.400 And you know what, I'll tell you and I turned 0:10:17.440 --> 0:10:19.960 on country radio now and we're not the reason for 0:10:20.000 --> 0:10:22.160 this I think there's just so many conversations that have 0:10:22.200 --> 0:10:25.720 been started the past like five years about equality and 0:10:25.760 --> 0:10:29.560 empowerment for women and everything. But I haven't heard any 0:10:29.600 --> 0:10:32.960 of those songs in a long time where I just 0:10:33.000 --> 0:10:36.560 felt like, as a woman, like I'm such a country 0:10:36.640 --> 0:10:38.839 music fan. I want to be a fan of all 0:10:38.920 --> 0:10:42.719 the guys, all the girls, kind of everyone. But when 0:10:42.720 --> 0:10:44.680 I would hear these songs, you know, like four years 0:10:44.679 --> 0:10:47.680 ago when we wrote girl, I was like, I don't 0:10:47.679 --> 0:10:49.000 want to be that. I don't want to be that 0:10:49.080 --> 0:10:51.680 chip because I have nothing to say. I want to 0:10:51.679 --> 0:10:53.880 have value. I don't just want to be some little 0:10:53.880 --> 0:10:55.680 because I don't look like the model in that video. 0:10:55.760 --> 0:10:57.480 I don't relate to you know what I mean like 0:10:57.800 --> 0:10:59.400 and you know, and that's what you're going for. You 0:10:59.400 --> 0:11:03.240 want to go for your talent. You have rain your 0:11:03.280 --> 0:11:07.480 brain total. So you guys wanted to show your empowered side, 0:11:07.760 --> 0:11:09.960 which is sometimes hard to figure out. Like I know, 0:11:10.000 --> 0:11:12.760 in my twenties, I would get so much praise and 0:11:12.800 --> 0:11:14.960 I would be sexy. And actually I had a friend, 0:11:15.360 --> 0:11:16.960 a young friend of mine, and I just had lunch 0:11:16.960 --> 0:11:18.679 with the other day. He's like making her way in 0:11:18.720 --> 0:11:21.120 the music industry and she's just naturally very sexy. She 0:11:21.160 --> 0:11:24.640 loves to dance, that's her thing. But it's like, what 0:11:24.920 --> 0:11:28.520 how do you navigate that? Because that whole being sexy 0:11:28.640 --> 0:11:31.040 and being empowered. I think you can do them both. 0:11:31.720 --> 0:11:34.520 But it is like back in how it used to 0:11:34.559 --> 0:11:37.000 be the voice that girls are sexy. That's it, and 0:11:37.400 --> 0:11:38.880 you really we don't really care about what you have 0:11:39.000 --> 0:11:41.280 to say. My advice would be in or at least 0:11:41.360 --> 0:11:43.400 the way that I So I don't really give off 0:11:43.520 --> 0:11:46.720 like a sultry vibe. I'm more of like just a 0:11:47.120 --> 0:11:53.000 like a very like friend zony vibe with guys, but yeah, friends, 0:11:53.360 --> 0:11:56.280 But with that stuff, I would say, like pick your moments. 0:11:56.320 --> 0:11:59.840 So it's like if you carpet you feel like, you 0:11:59.840 --> 0:12:02.000 know what, I really want to feel sexy. There's been 0:12:02.000 --> 0:12:03.440 times where I'm like, you know, I tell our style 0:12:03.520 --> 0:12:05.000 is I'm like, I want to I want to feel sexy. 0:12:05.040 --> 0:12:07.400 I want to feel like a woman, and like I 0:12:07.400 --> 0:12:09.200 don't really have a ton of curves, but I just 0:12:09.240 --> 0:12:12.000 want to show, you know, like not you know, show everything. 0:12:12.040 --> 0:12:14.600 I'm just feel good, it feels sexy. But then you know, 0:12:14.720 --> 0:12:17.480 like when we walk into a radio station and you know, 0:12:17.600 --> 0:12:20.000 most of country radio is really great about this, Like 0:12:20.040 --> 0:12:23.320 it's not we haven't ran into it as much as most. 0:12:23.440 --> 0:12:25.680 We've ran into a couple of times. But when I 0:12:25.720 --> 0:12:27.520 know that we're going into a radio station, it's a 0:12:27.559 --> 0:12:31.000 business thing. It's like this is our work. I'm like, 0:12:31.080 --> 0:12:32.839 I'm not going to have my boobs out. I'm not 0:12:32.880 --> 0:12:35.240 gonna wear booty shorts because for me, I don't feel 0:12:35.280 --> 0:12:37.400 sexy that way. I feel sexy when they are listening 0:12:37.400 --> 0:12:39.440 to what I have to say, and I feel sexy 0:12:39.480 --> 0:12:43.200 when they are like really grasping the message. So it's 0:12:43.240 --> 0:12:48.320 like no distraction, Yeah, no when to um like know 0:12:48.640 --> 0:12:51.520 what your sexy is for each environment. So it's like that. 0:12:52.840 --> 0:12:56.040 It's like with your man, it's one thing. With your girlfriends, 0:12:56.080 --> 0:12:57.720 it's one thing. Because like her and I we were 0:12:57.840 --> 0:13:00.400 like when we went to Jamaica for this show that 0:13:00.480 --> 0:13:02.199 we were doing, it was like a thing for a 0:13:02.280 --> 0:13:04.320 radio station. I was like, girl, I'm up where a 0:13:04.320 --> 0:13:07.280 bathing suit. I'm gonna have a booty cheeth because it 0:13:07.360 --> 0:13:09.000 was like, you know, there wasn't a ton of people, 0:13:09.080 --> 0:13:11.160 it wasn't business or anything. But when it was time 0:13:11.160 --> 0:13:13.400 for business, it was like, yeah, I want them to 0:13:13.760 --> 0:13:16.160 pay attention. To my brain, and I think to also 0:13:16.320 --> 0:13:18.480 love that and play a little bit of Devil's advocate, 0:13:18.520 --> 0:13:21.080 because there's two sides of it all, you know, for women, 0:13:21.120 --> 0:13:23.480 because I'm very much on the same side of her 0:13:23.520 --> 0:13:26.679 as where I feel most confident when people are understanding 0:13:26.720 --> 0:13:28.360 me and I feel like they're listening to me and 0:13:28.480 --> 0:13:31.319 viewing me as you know, an equal and not as 0:13:31.360 --> 0:13:34.199 a sexual being. But for some weeks, for some women, 0:13:34.400 --> 0:13:37.040 it's you know, they want to rely on their sexuality 0:13:37.080 --> 0:13:39.200 and they want to rely on their attractiveness and their looks, 0:13:39.240 --> 0:13:41.960 and that's totally fine. I think that's also the route 0:13:41.960 --> 0:13:45.760 you take. Being comfortable and just knowing that your strength 0:13:45.960 --> 0:13:47.640 and what you choose to put out there and just 0:13:47.880 --> 0:13:51.199 rocket like, don't put it out there and then and 0:13:51.360 --> 0:13:55.520 and like the ore. Whatever it is, if it's your sexuality, 0:13:55.559 --> 0:13:58.320 if it's your writing, if it's you're singing, if you 0:13:58.360 --> 0:14:00.600 just want to play guitar, like, whatever it is, just 0:14:01.000 --> 0:14:02.760 stick to that and know that that's your strength and 0:14:02.800 --> 0:14:05.280 don't be afraid that that is your strength. And that 0:14:05.400 --> 0:14:07.400 also brings me to another thing I really want to 0:14:07.400 --> 0:14:10.520 focus on, which is soulfull living, like living from your soul, 0:14:10.679 --> 0:14:14.280 feeling like living parts. It is harder. I feel that 0:14:14.320 --> 0:14:16.800 way because you have to dig in every day. You 0:14:16.920 --> 0:14:19.200 do that, Okay, so explain to me. Because you girls 0:14:19.200 --> 0:14:23.400 have been through so much. You've been top of the world, superstars, 0:14:23.400 --> 0:14:26.640 and then you've seen like transition, you've seen everything it's been, 0:14:27.880 --> 0:14:30.440 which is what this industry is, and everyone just sees 0:14:30.440 --> 0:14:32.360 the high row. But now with Instagram, actually feel like 0:14:32.360 --> 0:14:34.520 people are getting to see more of the real stuff, 0:14:34.640 --> 0:14:37.640 which is right. But how do you find how do 0:14:37.720 --> 0:14:39.840 you get to your soul and live from your soul 0:14:39.840 --> 0:14:41.560 every day? Like what are your techniques to do that 0:14:41.600 --> 0:14:44.360 without getting lost in this world? That's a great question. 0:14:44.480 --> 0:14:46.960 I think for me, the way that I recharge in 0:14:47.000 --> 0:14:49.440 general is my alone time. And I also find that 0:14:49.760 --> 0:14:51.840 my alone time and being quiet with myself is also 0:14:51.840 --> 0:14:53.760 how I reach my soul. And you're just able to 0:14:53.800 --> 0:14:55.760 listen to your own thoughts with them, which I think 0:14:55.800 --> 0:14:58.720 is important because we live in a society where it's 0:14:58.880 --> 0:15:01.480 very easy to be persuade or pressure to think a 0:15:01.480 --> 0:15:04.160 certain way or have a certain opinion, and you kind 0:15:04.160 --> 0:15:06.680 of forget what is my own opinion on this? Do 0:15:06.720 --> 0:15:09.840 I even have a feeling or is it suade by what? 0:15:09.920 --> 0:15:12.000 Someone else thinks. So I think just taking the time 0:15:12.040 --> 0:15:15.040 to listen to yourself total and see I'm opposite. So 0:15:15.200 --> 0:15:20.880 you've done, Like can who are you guys? I'm number two, 0:15:21.000 --> 0:15:23.880 I'm the helper. Okay, what are you? Number four? The 0:15:24.000 --> 0:15:27.920 romantic So I'm emotional. Every friends are romantic. Floor He's 0:15:27.960 --> 0:15:30.200 a four and she's a nine. I'm a nine. You're 0:15:30.200 --> 0:15:34.840 a peacemaker. Made like our whole family take the Instagram 0:15:34.880 --> 0:15:38.200 and then we all had to compare it. It has 0:15:38.520 --> 0:15:41.680 so for me, I'm like so extroverted, and I like, 0:15:41.800 --> 0:15:44.000 this is how my soul gets feeled, like you talking 0:15:44.040 --> 0:15:46.560 about this, so like the way that I like, if 0:15:46.560 --> 0:15:49.400 there's something wrong or I'm like hurting or something, if 0:15:49.400 --> 0:15:51.320 I talk to someone and I like talk it out, 0:15:51.680 --> 0:15:54.120 I feel great. Like our manager Haley, she has been 0:15:54.200 --> 0:15:56.240 one of the most influential people in our career and 0:15:56.280 --> 0:15:59.440 just one of our favorite people to be around. But 0:15:59.600 --> 0:16:03.120 she um has this system with me where she knows 0:16:03.160 --> 0:16:04.720 when I'm upset and so she's like, let's just talk 0:16:04.760 --> 0:16:07.000 about Like I'll just call you and I'm like, oh, no, 0:16:07.120 --> 0:16:08.760 you're busy, and then I just like talk it out. 0:16:08.800 --> 0:16:10.680 She's like, oh, then you're good. You're good. You're not 0:16:10.720 --> 0:16:13.040 having a mouthdown. You're totally good, no breakdown. I'm like, 0:16:13.280 --> 0:16:14.960 oh yeah, I just needed to say it. I just 0:16:14.960 --> 0:16:16.800 didn't have to get it out. They have a backboard. 0:16:16.840 --> 0:16:20.200 But someone who has good knowledge, yes, And I love 0:16:20.280 --> 0:16:21.960 like getting like I feel like when I get to 0:16:22.000 --> 0:16:24.800 know someone else's heart, I like get to note mine 0:16:24.840 --> 0:16:27.640 a little more too. I see that you know what 0:16:27.720 --> 0:16:30.920 I'm absolutely you see similarities. You're like, oh, okay, this 0:16:31.040 --> 0:16:34.600 is this is soul living to connecting on this. Yeah, 0:16:34.760 --> 0:16:36.800 what is your thing? I'm curious because I want to 0:16:36.800 --> 0:16:38.880 I want to integrate, like I need to do alone time. 0:16:38.880 --> 0:16:40.400 I'm just really bad at it because I love to 0:16:40.400 --> 0:16:43.000 be around people. I don't like being by myself. Very 0:16:43.040 --> 0:16:48.160 needy listening as are a handful, are a handful. But 0:16:48.240 --> 0:16:51.000 I envy you guys because y'all, I don't know if 0:16:51.040 --> 0:16:53.640 every four is this way. But reading y'all, obviously I have. 0:16:53.680 --> 0:16:56.440 I read on it just to know my boyfriend better. 0:16:56.480 --> 0:17:02.680 But um, it says that y'all are very comfortable. Not comfortable, 0:17:02.680 --> 0:17:04.679 it's comfortable the wrong word. But you are aware of 0:17:04.680 --> 0:17:09.119 your feelings and so aweeling exactly and see as a nine, 0:17:09.320 --> 0:17:12.080 I'm like, oh gosh, I push it away. It's like 0:17:12.119 --> 0:17:14.440 it doesn't exist. So I envied that side of you. Guys. 0:17:14.480 --> 0:17:16.360 I think that's so impressive that you're able to look 0:17:16.400 --> 0:17:19.600 at your heart. You know. I am feeling that because 0:17:19.640 --> 0:17:22.040 I don't show from acting some kind of way and 0:17:22.080 --> 0:17:25.439 I'm like, why am I acting like this? And I'm not. 0:17:25.880 --> 0:17:27.920 That's another can break that down because I feel like 0:17:27.960 --> 0:17:29.520 so many people do that. I do that too as 0:17:29.560 --> 0:17:32.639 a four. Yeah. Also, but it's like I can easily 0:17:32.640 --> 0:17:34.760 figure out what somebody needs for me, or if someone 0:17:34.760 --> 0:17:37.560 has a very big personality, I can easily be like, Okay, 0:17:37.760 --> 0:17:39.800 this is your personality, how can I fit into your 0:17:39.880 --> 0:17:42.160 vibe totally? But then I don't myself, so I'm trying 0:17:42.200 --> 0:17:44.280 not to do that. Yeah, I get like that to 0:17:44.359 --> 0:17:46.359 where like I want to accommodate or like I just 0:17:46.680 --> 0:17:49.399 are like, for example, I won't I won't like say names. 0:17:49.560 --> 0:17:52.000 But we went and played this show like a week ago, 0:17:52.480 --> 0:17:55.040 and there was like one guy that had like a 0:17:55.119 --> 0:17:57.600 really big personality and he and he meant well, but 0:17:57.680 --> 0:18:00.280 he kept just doing like weird stuff, like saying real 0:18:00.760 --> 0:18:04.680 weird things, and so I was like, how can I 0:18:04.720 --> 0:18:10.160 like not make you look so uncomfortable because you are 0:18:10.200 --> 0:18:12.480 being uncomfortable, But like, how can I make it to 0:18:12.480 --> 0:18:14.560 where this isn't as awkward as it actually is? Like 0:18:14.600 --> 0:18:16.560 you know, right? And so I feel like I'm always 0:18:16.560 --> 0:18:18.920 trying to accommodate that, Like even if it's someone else 0:18:19.040 --> 0:18:23.080 is being weird, I'm like, yeah, someone saying even if 0:18:23.080 --> 0:18:25.560 I'm saying some like and she's like, what she means 0:18:25.680 --> 0:18:30.800 is like thanks, I just wanted your message exactly, Like 0:18:30.840 --> 0:18:32.240 she's really good about the part of me is like, 0:18:32.320 --> 0:18:34.320 why am I trying to cater to everyone? Like why 0:18:34.359 --> 0:18:36.800 can't I just walk? Because women? I know, why do 0:18:36.880 --> 0:18:41.080 women do that? What? My mom was like that too, 0:18:41.200 --> 0:18:44.159 Like she caters to every single person but herself. But 0:18:44.280 --> 0:18:47.800 now she is, you know, in her fifties. What happened 0:18:47.840 --> 0:18:50.160 in her fifties? How did she what? She went through 0:18:50.160 --> 0:18:54.560 a lot of stuff. So my grandfather passed away in February, 0:18:55.000 --> 0:18:58.560 and so her yeah, her dad, and so that kind 0:18:58.600 --> 0:19:00.840 of tru she's just been through a like her brother 0:19:00.880 --> 0:19:04.080 passed away really tragically a couple of years ago, and um, 0:19:04.119 --> 0:19:06.600 she's just because she's just a tough cookie and she's 0:19:06.640 --> 0:19:10.760