1 00:00:00,200 --> 00:00:02,880 Speaker 1: So, like many of you, I used to suffer from insomnia. 2 00:00:02,960 --> 00:00:04,800 Speaker 1: No matter what I did, I just couldn't get a 3 00:00:04,840 --> 00:00:07,560 Speaker 1: perfect night's sleep. Well, then I met Mike Lindel, the 4 00:00:07,600 --> 00:00:09,920 Speaker 1: inventor of My Pillow. He got me fitted for my 5 00:00:10,119 --> 00:00:12,880 Speaker 1: very own my pillow, and it's changed my life. I 6 00:00:12,920 --> 00:00:16,080 Speaker 1: fall asleep faster, I stay asleep longer. And now you 7 00:00:16,160 --> 00:00:18,479 Speaker 1: can to just go to my Pillow dot com or 8 00:00:18,520 --> 00:00:23,000 Speaker 1: call eight hundred four six seven nineteen sixty two use 9 00:00:23,079 --> 00:00:25,880 Speaker 1: the promo code Sewn to take advantage of Mike's two 10 00:00:25,880 --> 00:00:28,320 Speaker 1: for one offer. 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And I know It's very similar 21 00:00:59,040 --> 00:01:00,800 Speaker 1: to the advice I gave you at the start of 22 00:01:01,040 --> 00:01:04,399 Speaker 1: last year. You better put your seatbelt on and buckle up. 23 00:01:05,720 --> 00:01:09,120 Speaker 1: None of what Donald Trump is going to do is 24 00:01:09,240 --> 00:01:13,640 Speaker 1: going to be easy. He is still going to have 25 00:01:14,040 --> 00:01:18,160 Speaker 1: the same enemies that he had all throughout twenty six 26 00:01:19,680 --> 00:01:24,800 Speaker 1: It's going to probably even be tougher because as as 27 00:01:24,840 --> 00:01:29,319 Speaker 1: he tries to implement his agenda, which is about as 28 00:01:29,400 --> 00:01:33,160 Speaker 1: aggressive and agenda and by the way, America needs most 29 00:01:33,200 --> 00:01:37,880 Speaker 1: of it desperately of any president in our lifetime. I 30 00:01:38,160 --> 00:01:42,240 Speaker 1: would even argue in ways if if on paper, more 31 00:01:42,240 --> 00:01:46,839 Speaker 1: aggressive than one Ronald Reagan proposed, because he's fundamentally talking 32 00:01:46,880 --> 00:01:53,160 Speaker 1: about shifting, changing, altering government at its core. If he 33 00:01:53,320 --> 00:01:57,520 Speaker 1: if he tries to do this, the very same media 34 00:01:57,720 --> 00:02:00,280 Speaker 1: establishment that worked against him and colue it with the 35 00:02:00,360 --> 00:02:03,560 Speaker 1: Hillary campaign, they they will still be there fighting every 36 00:02:03,640 --> 00:02:08,320 Speaker 1: day and accusing him of everything, for hating women and 37 00:02:08,400 --> 00:02:12,120 Speaker 1: poor children, and and wanting dirty air and water and 38 00:02:12,160 --> 00:02:16,519 Speaker 1: there it's all coming. The campaign is not going to stop. 39 00:02:16,919 --> 00:02:20,360 Speaker 1: The narrative against him is not going to stop. So 40 00:02:20,440 --> 00:02:22,240 Speaker 1: if you if you think you can vote for a 41 00:02:22,360 --> 00:02:26,040 Speaker 1: candidate walk away and think your job is done, then 42 00:02:26,080 --> 00:02:28,280 Speaker 1: you've got another thing coming, because then you're gonna get 43 00:02:28,320 --> 00:02:32,000 Speaker 1: the government you deserve. It's not going to be something 44 00:02:32,040 --> 00:02:35,360 Speaker 1: that he can do on his own. This is going 45 00:02:35,440 --> 00:02:38,919 Speaker 1: to be placed in the lapse of you, the American 46 00:02:39,040 --> 00:02:42,400 Speaker 1: people that went out and voted for him. Because one 47 00:02:42,440 --> 00:02:46,560 Speaker 1: important moments come up, and there should be many of them, 48 00:02:46,600 --> 00:02:50,440 Speaker 1: a lot in the first hundred days. Then you better 49 00:02:50,480 --> 00:02:53,720 Speaker 1: be ready to help call your congressman and your senator 50 00:02:53,840 --> 00:02:57,600 Speaker 1: and and let them know how you feel or else 51 00:02:57,639 --> 00:03:00,440 Speaker 1: the changes we've wanted that you fought for old last 52 00:03:00,520 --> 00:03:03,200 Speaker 1: year will be for nothing. And in that sense, it 53 00:03:03,240 --> 00:03:06,480 Speaker 1: won't be his fault. It will be your fault. It'll 54 00:03:06,480 --> 00:03:10,640 Speaker 1: be your representative's fault. He's got a weak Republican establishment. 55 00:03:10,680 --> 00:03:14,200 Speaker 1: They they they're embarrassed by him. They You've got to 56 00:03:14,280 --> 00:03:20,040 Speaker 1: understand this. Very few of these Washington Republicans went out 57 00:03:20,120 --> 00:03:23,880 Speaker 1: and and fought for their own candidate. Paul Ryan is 58 00:03:23,919 --> 00:03:27,519 Speaker 1: now the speaker again. It's gonna start immediately with the 59 00:03:28,000 --> 00:03:31,280 Speaker 1: people that he's choosing for his cabinet. It'll start with 60 00:03:31,360 --> 00:03:34,400 Speaker 1: his first Supreme Court appointment. I'll get to the idea. 61 00:03:34,520 --> 00:03:36,960 Speaker 1: I know a lot of you are worried what if 62 00:03:37,000 --> 00:03:40,360 Speaker 1: Obama tries the recess appointment between the hundred fourteen d 63 00:03:40,520 --> 00:03:43,720 Speaker 1: fifteen Congress, will there be a minute where he might 64 00:03:43,760 --> 00:03:47,720 Speaker 1: be able to recess a point? Merrick Garland will get 65 00:03:47,760 --> 00:03:49,560 Speaker 1: to that in a second. So much that's gonna come 66 00:03:49,640 --> 00:03:54,920 Speaker 1: up here. Look, I mean look at Trump. By the way, 67 00:03:54,920 --> 00:03:58,000 Speaker 1: it was pretty funny said about get locked the door 68 00:03:58,680 --> 00:04:01,640 Speaker 1: and throw away the key. Well that's if Obama in 69 00:04:01,720 --> 00:04:04,040 Speaker 1: his waning days. Have you been watching? This has been 70 00:04:04,080 --> 00:04:10,560 Speaker 1: the single biggest post election power grab, almost since Teddy Roosevelt, 71 00:04:11,000 --> 00:04:13,480 Speaker 1: that we have seen in American history. And that is 72 00:04:13,520 --> 00:04:17,440 Speaker 1: Obama trying to put every single obstacle in Trump's way 73 00:04:17,480 --> 00:04:21,039 Speaker 1: that he possibly can. But if Trump follows through and 74 00:04:21,080 --> 00:04:23,640 Speaker 1: he and he tries to lower the corporate tax rates, 75 00:04:23,839 --> 00:04:26,520 Speaker 1: oh that's gonna be label tax cuts for the rich. 76 00:04:27,080 --> 00:04:29,719 Speaker 1: You know, there's a story out there about Ford Motor Company, 77 00:04:30,000 --> 00:04:31,880 Speaker 1: which I think is a pretty good story in one 78 00:04:31,920 --> 00:04:35,760 Speaker 1: that should make us feel pretty good that they decided 79 00:04:35,800 --> 00:04:37,960 Speaker 1: that the seven million dollars that were going to spend 80 00:04:37,960 --> 00:04:40,960 Speaker 1: on a plant in Mexico, they're now gonna build that 81 00:04:41,000 --> 00:04:44,320 Speaker 1: plant in Michigan, which desperately needs jobs. I know because 82 00:04:44,320 --> 00:04:47,080 Speaker 1: I've been in Michigan I've been in the Detroit area 83 00:04:47,600 --> 00:04:51,400 Speaker 1: and I've seen the devastation. They want to literally bulldoz 84 00:04:51,560 --> 00:04:55,400 Speaker 1: entire neighborhoods that are empty, home after home after home, 85 00:04:55,480 --> 00:04:58,599 Speaker 1: street after street after street, block after block after block. 86 00:04:59,040 --> 00:05:02,320 Speaker 1: They want to bulldoz as all these empty homes, consolidate 87 00:05:02,400 --> 00:05:07,039 Speaker 1: services because they can't afford to light up the entire 88 00:05:07,120 --> 00:05:09,839 Speaker 1: city where there's only one or two people living on 89 00:05:09,880 --> 00:05:14,520 Speaker 1: certain blocks, and and garbage services and the likes. I mean, 90 00:05:14,560 --> 00:05:17,040 Speaker 1: to rebuild one of America's great cities is not going 91 00:05:17,080 --> 00:05:20,440 Speaker 1: to be done overnight. But if Trump tries to eliminate, 92 00:05:21,120 --> 00:05:24,440 Speaker 1: here's what's possible. I mean, maybe maybe I'll put it 93 00:05:24,480 --> 00:05:27,680 Speaker 1: in a positive way so that if you buckle up 94 00:05:27,720 --> 00:05:31,480 Speaker 1: and you're ready for this fight, you're gonna be enthusiastic 95 00:05:31,520 --> 00:05:33,520 Speaker 1: about what it is, that what it is, what you're 96 00:05:33,560 --> 00:05:38,080 Speaker 1: fighting for. You know, in the first hours that Donald 97 00:05:38,120 --> 00:05:43,480 Speaker 1: Trump is president, he's going to be rescinding as many 98 00:05:43,480 --> 00:05:48,839 Speaker 1: executive orders that Barack Obama has used to govern because 99 00:05:48,880 --> 00:05:52,240 Speaker 1: he doesn't respect the Constitution and he decided to bypass 100 00:05:52,279 --> 00:05:56,200 Speaker 1: Congress and separation of powers and coequal branches of government. 101 00:05:56,360 --> 00:05:59,640 Speaker 1: The good news about ruling by executive orders is they 102 00:05:59,640 --> 00:06:03,159 Speaker 1: can be undone. And the first order of business. Donald 103 00:06:03,160 --> 00:06:06,839 Speaker 1: Trump can probably wipe out in the first few hours 104 00:06:07,720 --> 00:06:12,920 Speaker 1: seventy to seventy of the damage that Obama has inflicted 105 00:06:12,960 --> 00:06:15,960 Speaker 1: on the economy and on this country, just with the 106 00:06:16,000 --> 00:06:19,080 Speaker 1: stroke of a pen. And then if they move immediately 107 00:06:19,120 --> 00:06:22,800 Speaker 1: to repeal Obamacare, well that takes away another tempers an 108 00:06:22,800 --> 00:06:28,000 Speaker 1: hour up and the remaining fift it will almost be 109 00:06:28,160 --> 00:06:32,080 Speaker 1: as if Obama was never there for eight years. It 110 00:06:32,120 --> 00:06:36,719 Speaker 1: could be that deep and that profound. Now the question is, well, 111 00:06:36,760 --> 00:06:38,359 Speaker 1: what are you gonna replace all of this with? The 112 00:06:38,360 --> 00:06:41,839 Speaker 1: Only thing we're definitely left with is the ten trillion 113 00:06:41,839 --> 00:06:45,320 Speaker 1: dollars in Obama debt, the bad state of the economy, 114 00:06:45,440 --> 00:06:48,880 Speaker 1: of foreign policy disaster all around the globe, you know, 115 00:06:48,960 --> 00:06:50,760 Speaker 1: but for the killing of Ben lad and I can't 116 00:06:50,760 --> 00:06:54,919 Speaker 1: think of think of a single foreign policy success. But 117 00:06:54,960 --> 00:06:57,160 Speaker 1: if he wants to lower the corporate tax rate, I 118 00:06:57,200 --> 00:07:01,800 Speaker 1: can guarantee you the narrative isn't gonna be that jobs 119 00:07:01,800 --> 00:07:04,520 Speaker 1: are gonna be created for the ninety million Americans out 120 00:07:04,520 --> 00:07:06,520 Speaker 1: of the labor force. The narrative is gonna be is 121 00:07:07,000 --> 00:07:10,880 Speaker 1: is Donald Trump is for big business. If he removes 122 00:07:10,960 --> 00:07:17,120 Speaker 1: the burdensome regulation for automakers and and steel mills and 123 00:07:17,400 --> 00:07:22,240 Speaker 1: uh whatever other industry carrier air conditioners, because it's costing 124 00:07:22,360 --> 00:07:26,520 Speaker 1: them money compliance money. It's costing them in terms of 125 00:07:26,560 --> 00:07:29,760 Speaker 1: the products they have to they're able to create. It's 126 00:07:29,800 --> 00:07:32,640 Speaker 1: costing them in terms of research and development because of 127 00:07:32,680 --> 00:07:36,720 Speaker 1: these ridiculous environmental standards. And if the environmentalists tell you 128 00:07:36,760 --> 00:07:39,880 Speaker 1: he's poisoning the air and poisoning the water, well that's 129 00:07:39,880 --> 00:07:43,080 Speaker 1: gonna be an obstacle. And then you have these weak, need, 130 00:07:44,440 --> 00:07:48,080 Speaker 1: uh spineless Republicans that don't have any courage of vision. 131 00:07:48,720 --> 00:07:51,720 Speaker 1: If you don't call their offices with a steady stream 132 00:07:51,760 --> 00:07:55,520 Speaker 1: and flood of support, then you know he might have 133 00:07:55,600 --> 00:07:59,680 Speaker 1: difficulty making these changes. You know, changing the tax code 134 00:07:59,680 --> 00:08:03,000 Speaker 1: from evan brackets to three, lowering the corporate tax rate, 135 00:08:03,400 --> 00:08:08,680 Speaker 1: allowing multinational corporations the repatriation one time tax ten. Well, 136 00:08:08,680 --> 00:08:13,239 Speaker 1: that's all money that can be be spent on manufacturing 137 00:08:13,320 --> 00:08:18,400 Speaker 1: centers and factories and creating jobs for Americans. The next 138 00:08:18,480 --> 00:08:22,680 Speaker 1: big component of this is if he eliminates Obamacare. You know, 139 00:08:22,720 --> 00:08:26,080 Speaker 1: the Democrats line is you break it, you own it. No, 140 00:08:26,240 --> 00:08:30,040 Speaker 1: you already broke it. It's shattered it's in tattered all 141 00:08:30,080 --> 00:08:32,719 Speaker 1: over the place, and now we have to clean up 142 00:08:32,720 --> 00:08:36,480 Speaker 1: your mess. That's what the narrative ought to be. But 143 00:08:36,520 --> 00:08:40,120 Speaker 1: the narrative the Democrats will put out is Republicans want 144 00:08:40,160 --> 00:08:44,200 Speaker 1: your grandmother to die. That's what That's what you will hear. 145 00:08:44,840 --> 00:08:48,839 Speaker 1: This is all very predictable. When he allows drilling and 146 00:08:48,880 --> 00:08:52,640 Speaker 1: fracking and an expansion of coal mining and nuclear facilities, 147 00:08:53,240 --> 00:08:58,520 Speaker 1: and he changes America's energy apology policies towards energy independence, 148 00:08:59,120 --> 00:09:01,480 Speaker 1: which is good for now tional security. We're not dependent 149 00:09:01,480 --> 00:09:04,320 Speaker 1: on countries that hate our guts anymore, and it will 150 00:09:04,360 --> 00:09:09,000 Speaker 1: create millions of high paying, career paying jobs. Well, then 151 00:09:09,040 --> 00:09:12,920 Speaker 1: it's gonna be the environmentalists screaming we're gonna poison the air, 152 00:09:13,120 --> 00:09:17,800 Speaker 1: water and kill the environment. When when when Trump goes 153 00:09:17,880 --> 00:09:20,160 Speaker 1: forward and ready there's a story out today. Are he's 154 00:09:20,160 --> 00:09:24,480 Speaker 1: already planning to build the wall. When he starts building 155 00:09:24,520 --> 00:09:28,640 Speaker 1: the wall, then it's gonna be the Donald Trump's racist 156 00:09:28,800 --> 00:09:31,680 Speaker 1: doesn't want Mexicans in the country. Well, he did say 157 00:09:31,720 --> 00:09:34,840 Speaker 1: the wall will have a door in it somewhere so 158 00:09:34,880 --> 00:09:37,600 Speaker 1: people can come over, but we'll know who they are 159 00:09:38,440 --> 00:09:41,319 Speaker 1: and it will keep Americans safe, will have less competition. 160 00:09:41,679 --> 00:09:44,280 Speaker 1: Those Americans that are out of work, the eight nine 161 00:09:44,320 --> 00:09:47,840 Speaker 1: ten million illegal immigrants that have jobs may end up 162 00:09:47,880 --> 00:09:50,640 Speaker 1: having to go home. That means more opportunities for Americans 163 00:09:50,640 --> 00:09:53,520 Speaker 1: that are on food stamps, in poverty, and out of work. 164 00:09:54,559 --> 00:09:57,800 Speaker 1: So every single one of these policies is going to 165 00:09:58,000 --> 00:10:03,680 Speaker 1: require a fight on your part. You can't just vote 166 00:10:03,720 --> 00:10:07,199 Speaker 1: and walk away. You can't. If you do, then you're 167 00:10:07,200 --> 00:10:10,520 Speaker 1: gonna get the same failed government that you've always had. 168 00:10:11,200 --> 00:10:14,800 Speaker 1: And that's not gonna work. But I can guarantee you, 169 00:10:15,520 --> 00:10:21,240 Speaker 1: starting now, not even January, starting now, the battle is beginning, 170 00:10:21,880 --> 00:10:24,440 Speaker 1: and the Democrats are gonna be flailing, and they're gonna 171 00:10:24,480 --> 00:10:26,800 Speaker 1: be screaming, and they're gonna be hemming and hawing and 172 00:10:26,880 --> 00:10:30,560 Speaker 1: yelling and ranting and raving, and they're gonna act as though, 173 00:10:31,320 --> 00:10:33,760 Speaker 1: you know, the sky is falling, and they're gonna go 174 00:10:33,840 --> 00:10:36,480 Speaker 1: to their predictable fear tactics that they use in every 175 00:10:36,520 --> 00:10:40,000 Speaker 1: election cycle. And if we fall prey to those tactics, 176 00:10:40,040 --> 00:10:43,520 Speaker 1: then items in the agenda are not gonna get done. 177 00:10:44,120 --> 00:10:47,920 Speaker 1: But of the same people that were enthusiastic, that showed 178 00:10:48,000 --> 00:10:51,200 Speaker 1: up at Trump rallies before the election and went out 179 00:10:51,240 --> 00:10:54,800 Speaker 1: and voted in record numbers. If they want jobs, if 180 00:10:54,840 --> 00:10:57,960 Speaker 1: they want corporate investment, if they want energy and dependence, 181 00:10:58,400 --> 00:11:01,480 Speaker 1: if they want health savings, that counts well, wait till 182 00:11:01,520 --> 00:11:05,200 Speaker 1: he Wait till Donald Trump sends education back to the States. 183 00:11:06,080 --> 00:11:10,320 Speaker 1: The n e A is going to go ballistic, and 184 00:11:10,320 --> 00:11:16,440 Speaker 1: they'll spend millions and millions of dollars in rank and 185 00:11:16,520 --> 00:11:21,520 Speaker 1: file money to protect their turf, because we're talking about 186 00:11:21,559 --> 00:11:25,760 Speaker 1: a fundamental rooting out of the corruption which is America's 187 00:11:25,840 --> 00:11:28,800 Speaker 1: educational system. All Right, you keep the system the way 188 00:11:28,840 --> 00:11:31,400 Speaker 1: it is, you're gonna get the same miserable results. Will 189 00:11:31,440 --> 00:11:33,600 Speaker 1: spend more per capita than any other country in the 190 00:11:33,640 --> 00:11:37,000 Speaker 1: world with the worst results. That's that's what your choice 191 00:11:37,040 --> 00:11:42,400 Speaker 1: is here. Um you probably have heard, and it's gotten 192 00:11:42,400 --> 00:11:47,080 Speaker 1: more play, more pressed than than I imagine. I was 193 00:11:47,120 --> 00:11:50,360 Speaker 1: in London yesterday. Let me tell you my schedule. So 194 00:11:50,400 --> 00:11:53,600 Speaker 1: I ended my vacation a little bit early. I was 195 00:11:53,720 --> 00:11:57,440 Speaker 1: in Florida, but I drove two hours to Miami, got 196 00:11:57,480 --> 00:12:00,400 Speaker 1: there at seven o'clock for nine o'clock direct to throw 197 00:12:00,600 --> 00:12:04,240 Speaker 1: in London. And we had been working sometime on a 198 00:12:04,280 --> 00:12:08,760 Speaker 1: sit down interview with Juliana Sang and we finally got 199 00:12:08,880 --> 00:12:11,320 Speaker 1: he he had agreed to the interview frankly two weeks ago, 200 00:12:12,000 --> 00:12:14,560 Speaker 1: and we just had to had to get permission. This 201 00:12:14,600 --> 00:12:20,080 Speaker 1: guy is not had sunlight on his face outside in 202 00:12:20,200 --> 00:12:23,000 Speaker 1: four and a half years. The first thing I saw 203 00:12:23,040 --> 00:12:25,960 Speaker 1: when I got there is I was shocked at the 204 00:12:26,280 --> 00:12:32,000 Speaker 1: very tiny living space this man has and how little 205 00:12:32,040 --> 00:12:35,920 Speaker 1: access he has to the outside world. We get into 206 00:12:35,960 --> 00:12:39,719 Speaker 1: the issues of why he's there. He made a very passionate, 207 00:12:39,840 --> 00:12:43,800 Speaker 1: strong defense, and there's a lot of questions that I 208 00:12:43,960 --> 00:12:46,400 Speaker 1: have about the legitimacy of these things, but I'll let 209 00:12:46,400 --> 00:12:48,360 Speaker 1: you decide when you watch the interview. We're gonna run 210 00:12:48,360 --> 00:12:52,079 Speaker 1: the full hour of it tonight. We literally had about 211 00:12:52,120 --> 00:12:55,320 Speaker 1: an hour and twenty minutes worth of taping, So it's 212 00:12:55,360 --> 00:12:57,880 Speaker 1: frustrating that I can't just let the whole thing run. 213 00:12:57,920 --> 00:13:01,720 Speaker 1: I wish I had two hours tonight, um, But it's 214 00:13:01,800 --> 00:13:06,559 Speaker 1: to me a fascinating interview. Now, a lot has happened 215 00:13:07,720 --> 00:13:12,000 Speaker 1: since I've been gone, as it relates to this narrative 216 00:13:12,040 --> 00:13:15,000 Speaker 1: by the White House and by the Hillary campaign and 217 00:13:15,120 --> 00:13:20,480 Speaker 1: by every Democrat that the Russians tried to influence the elections, 218 00:13:20,480 --> 00:13:24,760 Speaker 1: But yet nobody has presented any evidence that anything new 219 00:13:25,080 --> 00:13:28,640 Speaker 1: has been discovered or is proven to be tied to 220 00:13:29,760 --> 00:13:34,400 Speaker 1: the Russians influencing this election in any way. And it 221 00:13:34,480 --> 00:13:38,400 Speaker 1: was actually somewhat funny and humorous. As the Washington Post 222 00:13:39,160 --> 00:13:42,200 Speaker 1: they actually made the claim that the Russians hacked the 223 00:13:42,280 --> 00:13:45,880 Speaker 1: US electric grid, and they had to correct a story 224 00:13:45,920 --> 00:13:49,559 Speaker 1: that originally said Russian hackers penetrated the US electric grid 225 00:13:49,600 --> 00:13:53,200 Speaker 1: by breaching a utility company in Vermont. Well, then they 226 00:13:53,240 --> 00:13:57,360 Speaker 1: had to put out a retraction claiming that Russia in 227 00:13:57,440 --> 00:13:59,760 Speaker 1: fact hacked the grid. Why did they run with the 228 00:13:59,800 --> 00:14:02,160 Speaker 1: story worry so fast? Probably because they wanted to create 229 00:14:02,240 --> 00:14:06,360 Speaker 1: legitimacy to the story that the Russians hacked and influenced 230 00:14:06,400 --> 00:14:09,960 Speaker 1: the elections. Now, I asked Julian Osang, you will play 231 00:14:10,040 --> 00:14:12,160 Speaker 1: some of the interview later in the program today. I 232 00:14:12,200 --> 00:14:15,200 Speaker 1: asked him directly, did he ever meet Vladimir Putin? No? 233 00:14:15,960 --> 00:14:18,040 Speaker 1: Did he ever talk to him? No? Did he ever 234 00:14:18,120 --> 00:14:21,360 Speaker 1: talk to an associate, a friend, a surrogate of Vladimir Putin? No? 235 00:14:21,920 --> 00:14:24,240 Speaker 1: Did he ever talked to Donald Trump? No? Did he 236 00:14:24,280 --> 00:14:26,920 Speaker 1: ever talk to a Trump surrogate? No? I think I 237 00:14:26,920 --> 00:14:29,160 Speaker 1: had read a report that Roger Stone had spoken to him. 238 00:14:29,160 --> 00:14:30,680 Speaker 1: I had Do you ever speak to Roger Stone no, 239 00:14:31,680 --> 00:14:34,480 Speaker 1: So he said no to all of these questions. And 240 00:14:34,520 --> 00:14:37,600 Speaker 1: then I said, okay, did Russia. Can you tell the 241 00:14:37,640 --> 00:14:43,160 Speaker 1: American people that, in fact, the Russians had nothing to 242 00:14:43,240 --> 00:14:46,520 Speaker 1: do with the information that you got from Wiki leaks 243 00:14:46,600 --> 00:14:49,560 Speaker 1: as it relates to the d n C and John 244 00:14:49,600 --> 00:14:54,800 Speaker 1: Podestas emails. And his answer was unequivocal, no, no, no. 245 00:14:55,800 --> 00:14:59,080 Speaker 1: And yet, you know what what's very fascinating about all 246 00:14:59,120 --> 00:15:04,760 Speaker 1: of this is Congress has been wanting an investigation here 247 00:15:05,400 --> 00:15:07,960 Speaker 1: into all of this. You know, we've got one top 248 00:15:08,000 --> 00:15:13,160 Speaker 1: security cybersecurity expert, John McAfee, Well, he was quoted as saying, 249 00:15:13,800 --> 00:15:17,160 Speaker 1: according to zero Hedge, he's the creator of America's first 250 00:15:17,200 --> 00:15:21,160 Speaker 1: commercial anti hacking software. He said, flatly, I can guarantee 251 00:15:21,200 --> 00:15:24,800 Speaker 1: you it was not the Russians. Other cyber experts we 252 00:15:24,880 --> 00:15:27,960 Speaker 1: have had on the program have said the same thing. Now, 253 00:15:28,200 --> 00:15:32,040 Speaker 1: the administration continues to stone wall Congress. Long before Christmas, 254 00:15:32,080 --> 00:15:34,520 Speaker 1: Congress was saying, well, give us the give us the proof, 255 00:15:35,200 --> 00:15:39,400 Speaker 1: give us the evidence, and the president the administration has 256 00:15:39,440 --> 00:15:43,840 Speaker 1: been stonewalling Congress and their demands for evidence showing that 257 00:15:43,920 --> 00:15:46,200 Speaker 1: this claim is true. And then they put out a 258 00:15:46,240 --> 00:15:49,840 Speaker 1: third team page memo that basically said nothing and no 259 00:15:49,960 --> 00:15:54,040 Speaker 1: proof was offered, So it's very, very dubious in every way, 260 00:15:54,080 --> 00:15:56,400 Speaker 1: and it's you know, there's no evidence that I have 261 00:15:56,520 --> 00:16:00,120 Speaker 1: seen at all that would debunk with Julian Ossandre is 262 00:16:00,120 --> 00:16:02,040 Speaker 1: telling me. And if you're asking me if I believe him, 263 00:16:02,040 --> 00:16:04,520 Speaker 1: having sat and spoken with him and spent all the 264 00:16:04,520 --> 00:16:06,800 Speaker 1: time with him, might say I believe him. But you 265 00:16:06,840 --> 00:16:09,400 Speaker 1: can watch tonight yourself and make your own decision, all right, 266 00:16:09,440 --> 00:16:11,720 Speaker 1: glad you whether twenty five now till the top of 267 00:16:11,720 --> 00:16:15,720 Speaker 1: the hour. Happy New Year to everybody. I come back 268 00:16:16,040 --> 00:16:19,360 Speaker 1: um from vacation. Vacation does a wonderful thing for me. 269 00:16:20,520 --> 00:16:25,320 Speaker 1: It gives me perspective it Um, I didn't realize, Linda, 270 00:16:25,520 --> 00:16:28,280 Speaker 1: you were telling me, of course you're not paying attention 271 00:16:28,280 --> 00:16:30,000 Speaker 1: to my show, because I know you're talking to Buck 272 00:16:30,040 --> 00:16:32,360 Speaker 1: Sexton and we love Buck. He's a great guy. But 273 00:16:32,400 --> 00:16:34,960 Speaker 1: I mean, he just just asked him to leave. Well, 274 00:16:34,960 --> 00:16:36,960 Speaker 1: I just saw he could pay attention to you. I 275 00:16:36,960 --> 00:16:38,920 Speaker 1: saw he was filling in for Rush. I guess you 276 00:16:38,960 --> 00:16:40,560 Speaker 1: just want to talk to him. Yeah, I mean, I'm 277 00:16:40,600 --> 00:16:44,080 Speaker 1: glad he filled in my first radio love. Thank how 278 00:16:44,160 --> 00:16:45,800 Speaker 1: you doing good to talk to you. I haven't heard 279 00:16:45,800 --> 00:16:48,360 Speaker 1: this kind of talk in a long long time. But 280 00:16:48,440 --> 00:16:50,880 Speaker 1: you had been telling me before the end of the 281 00:16:50,960 --> 00:16:54,320 Speaker 1: year that I look like crap, I looked tired, that 282 00:16:54,440 --> 00:16:57,800 Speaker 1: I was overworked. So funny because I remember that in 283 00:16:57,840 --> 00:17:01,600 Speaker 1: the reverse. Uh, no, I you, well, you look tired 284 00:17:01,600 --> 00:17:05,520 Speaker 1: to I mean we we we had a busy year later. 285 00:17:07,720 --> 00:17:09,719 Speaker 1: A right, No, well you notice I got a lot 286 00:17:09,760 --> 00:17:11,560 Speaker 1: of color because I was out in the sun a lot. 287 00:17:12,119 --> 00:17:15,160 Speaker 1: You do notice the color, right, I looked fantastic. You're 288 00:17:15,200 --> 00:17:17,800 Speaker 1: just lying, all right, putting that aside. But I didn't 289 00:17:17,800 --> 00:17:20,560 Speaker 1: realize until I actually got on vacation how tired I was. 290 00:17:21,400 --> 00:17:23,760 Speaker 1: I didn't. I had no idea. And then all of 291 00:17:23,800 --> 00:17:27,960 Speaker 1: a sudden, I am sleeping eight hours a night, which 292 00:17:28,000 --> 00:17:31,440 Speaker 1: for me is a miracle, and straight through. Now there 293 00:17:31,520 --> 00:17:34,080 Speaker 1: was a little wine or beer involved in the sleeping, 294 00:17:34,119 --> 00:17:36,919 Speaker 1: but that's that's neither here nor there. As I go, 295 00:17:37,000 --> 00:17:39,239 Speaker 1: I ate too much on vacation, like everybody does. I'm 296 00:17:39,280 --> 00:17:42,359 Speaker 1: back on my chicken soup diet today. And uh and 297 00:17:42,400 --> 00:17:44,879 Speaker 1: then I would take a nap in the afternoon. And 298 00:17:45,040 --> 00:17:47,920 Speaker 1: when have I ever taken a nap in my life? Now? 299 00:17:47,960 --> 00:17:50,879 Speaker 1: I love naps. Naps were great, but then after about 300 00:17:50,880 --> 00:17:53,480 Speaker 1: a week, I started to feel normal. But what happens 301 00:17:53,520 --> 00:17:56,000 Speaker 1: to me when I get on vacation and I take 302 00:17:56,040 --> 00:17:58,240 Speaker 1: only one big vacation every year, it's two weeks around 303 00:17:58,280 --> 00:18:00,199 Speaker 1: Christmas and New Year's I do the same thing every year, 304 00:18:01,080 --> 00:18:04,680 Speaker 1: And Number One, I get very introspective. I think about 305 00:18:04,720 --> 00:18:07,399 Speaker 1: my life, I think about my age. I always have 306 00:18:07,440 --> 00:18:10,320 Speaker 1: a birthday over the holiday, and I hate it. Um 307 00:18:10,359 --> 00:18:16,240 Speaker 1: and I just I appreciated this year and this audience 308 00:18:16,760 --> 00:18:19,040 Speaker 1: and this country. And I'm not going to say what 309 00:18:19,080 --> 00:18:21,640 Speaker 1: Michelle said. For the first time in my adult life, 310 00:18:21,680 --> 00:18:25,280 Speaker 1: I am proud. That's That's not what I'm saying. What 311 00:18:25,320 --> 00:18:30,520 Speaker 1: I'm saying is the engagement of all of you against 312 00:18:30,560 --> 00:18:37,640 Speaker 1: all odds, having a Republican establishment actively undermining their own 313 00:18:37,680 --> 00:18:44,160 Speaker 1: presidential candidate, to have a democratic establishment actively undermining their 314 00:18:44,200 --> 00:18:49,720 Speaker 1: own candidate, to have a media establishment. I saw this 315 00:18:49,840 --> 00:18:53,600 Speaker 1: quote of Chuck Todd. I don't understand. You know, I 316 00:18:53,680 --> 00:18:56,439 Speaker 1: thought we all did a great job this year, and 317 00:18:56,480 --> 00:19:00,440 Speaker 1: I'm like, that's the problem. He believes that. Thanks Chuck, 318 00:19:00,520 --> 00:19:04,239 Speaker 1: that is your problem. You believe that crap. Watch your 319 00:19:04,280 --> 00:19:08,399 Speaker 1: own network. You know you're on MSNBC every day. You 320 00:19:08,440 --> 00:19:10,680 Speaker 1: know you do NBC News every day. By the way, 321 00:19:10,680 --> 00:19:13,560 Speaker 1: do you hear that Megan Kelly is leaving Fox that 322 00:19:13,680 --> 00:19:15,679 Speaker 1: just broke on the Drudge Report apparently is going to 323 00:19:15,840 --> 00:19:21,960 Speaker 1: NBC Breaking News now, Um, well, well we'll address that 324 00:19:22,000 --> 00:19:26,680 Speaker 1: at the right time. The but I I think about 325 00:19:26,840 --> 00:19:30,840 Speaker 1: how great, no think about this. This was the year 326 00:19:31,920 --> 00:19:34,879 Speaker 1: that I would argue the rest of the country, not 327 00:19:35,080 --> 00:19:39,240 Speaker 1: this audience, but the rest of the country. Wiki leaks 328 00:19:39,280 --> 00:19:46,880 Speaker 1: exposed how corrupt our system is. The collusion between the 329 00:19:46,920 --> 00:19:54,160 Speaker 1: Democratic Party, the presidential campaign of Hillary Clinton, the media establishment, 330 00:19:54,680 --> 00:19:58,840 Speaker 1: even Republicans, Democrats, and the media established. All three of 331 00:19:58,880 --> 00:20:04,480 Speaker 1: those establishments are all in collusion so they could maintain power. 332 00:20:05,240 --> 00:20:07,879 Speaker 1: And this seems to be twenty six team was the 333 00:20:08,000 --> 00:20:12,360 Speaker 1: year the American people caught up with my proclamation back 334 00:20:12,400 --> 00:20:16,480 Speaker 1: in two thousand and eight that journalism is dead. You know, 335 00:20:16,520 --> 00:20:20,200 Speaker 1: all these people writing me today about the Julian Assange interview, 336 00:20:20,520 --> 00:20:23,520 Speaker 1: all these people even CNN is writing me. They're wanting 337 00:20:23,560 --> 00:20:27,240 Speaker 1: comments for me about my Julian Assange interview. They don't 338 00:20:27,320 --> 00:20:31,080 Speaker 1: want an honest comment from me. You know, what about 339 00:20:31,119 --> 00:20:34,480 Speaker 1: what you said in two about Julian Osange, that he's 340 00:20:34,560 --> 00:20:38,919 Speaker 1: waging war against the United states. Okay, how many times 341 00:20:39,000 --> 00:20:43,520 Speaker 1: Linda on this program did I bring up my own 342 00:20:43,600 --> 00:20:48,280 Speaker 1: comments about Julian Assange to Julian Assange. I mean it 343 00:20:48,320 --> 00:20:50,080 Speaker 1: was at least three times, the three times he's been 344 00:20:50,119 --> 00:20:51,920 Speaker 1: on the air, and I brought I brought it up 345 00:20:52,200 --> 00:20:54,040 Speaker 1: in the interview yesterday. I don't know if it's gonna 346 00:20:54,040 --> 00:20:57,760 Speaker 1: make the cut. Honestly, we we taped an hour and 347 00:20:58,080 --> 00:21:02,560 Speaker 1: nearly twenty minutes straight through. I mean, and this a 348 00:21:02,600 --> 00:21:07,399 Speaker 1: couple of observations. His life sucks. He is doing it 349 00:21:07,480 --> 00:21:10,800 Speaker 1: if you believe him, and I really believed him because 350 00:21:10,840 --> 00:21:13,840 Speaker 1: he wants to expose corruption. I was very clear and 351 00:21:13,920 --> 00:21:17,000 Speaker 1: asking very pointed questions. Well, if this was about Donald Trump, 352 00:21:17,080 --> 00:21:19,800 Speaker 1: would you have done it about Donald Trump? Yes? Have 353 00:21:19,960 --> 00:21:23,000 Speaker 1: you had any contact with Trump? Is a surrogates as associate? No? 354 00:21:23,760 --> 00:21:28,840 Speaker 1: Putin his associates? Anybody? No? Okay, you you are? Why 355 00:21:28,880 --> 00:21:33,000 Speaker 1: are you eliminating one source here? He's saying, because everybody's 356 00:21:33,040 --> 00:21:36,120 Speaker 1: getting it wrong. And then this guy lives in a 357 00:21:36,160 --> 00:21:39,399 Speaker 1: shoe box at this Ecuadorian embassy for four and a 358 00:21:39,400 --> 00:21:42,920 Speaker 1: half years and he gets to see his kids on occasion. 359 00:21:43,960 --> 00:21:45,720 Speaker 1: Is you know what kind of life can that be? 360 00:21:45,960 --> 00:21:50,119 Speaker 1: Six years not seeing sunlight. So it's a fascinating story. 361 00:21:50,160 --> 00:21:54,040 Speaker 1: Now you've got to ask yourself this question, why are 362 00:21:54,119 --> 00:21:57,840 Speaker 1: the Democrats, including the White House and the President of 363 00:21:57,840 --> 00:22:03,760 Speaker 1: the United States, advancing this narrative so so hard that 364 00:22:03,880 --> 00:22:07,199 Speaker 1: the Russians hacked? Well, then you have to start. We 365 00:22:07,240 --> 00:22:11,560 Speaker 1: gotta look at a little history because in we know 366 00:22:11,720 --> 00:22:14,879 Speaker 1: for a fact that the Chinese, that would be the 367 00:22:14,960 --> 00:22:21,560 Speaker 1: Chinese government stole millions millions, twenty three million personal documents, 368 00:22:22,080 --> 00:22:28,320 Speaker 1: classified information on individuals who are seeing in working for 369 00:22:28,400 --> 00:22:31,960 Speaker 1: the United States government. Now, what do you think Obama 370 00:22:32,080 --> 00:22:36,240 Speaker 1: did to the Chinese? Did they expelled thirty five Chinese diplomats? No? 371 00:22:37,119 --> 00:22:41,119 Speaker 1: Did they ever make a single public comment about it? No? 372 00:22:41,960 --> 00:22:46,200 Speaker 1: So it raises questions, why is he politicizing this Russia 373 00:22:46,280 --> 00:22:50,320 Speaker 1: case without any definitive effort evidence that he's that he's 374 00:22:50,359 --> 00:22:56,120 Speaker 1: providing and ignore what we know the Chinese did. Well, 375 00:22:56,119 --> 00:22:59,640 Speaker 1: it reeks of politics in my mind. Now he's got 376 00:22:59,680 --> 00:23:02,960 Speaker 1: his pliant news media, I mean the sycophense in the 377 00:23:02,960 --> 00:23:06,480 Speaker 1: news media, the colluding news media, and we know that 378 00:23:06,600 --> 00:23:10,000 Speaker 1: you know the evidence that Vladimir Putin ordered a cyber 379 00:23:10,040 --> 00:23:14,560 Speaker 1: attack to torpedo Hillary's campaign is so weak that the 380 00:23:14,600 --> 00:23:18,200 Speaker 1: old left radical media in this country is now resorting 381 00:23:18,240 --> 00:23:23,240 Speaker 1: to spreading patently bogus reports to bolster their case. And 382 00:23:23,280 --> 00:23:27,359 Speaker 1: that's what the Washington posted. You have David Keene writing 383 00:23:27,359 --> 00:23:30,959 Speaker 1: in the Washington Times from the American Conservative Union, and 384 00:23:30,960 --> 00:23:34,959 Speaker 1: he said, in his drive to further demonize Mr Putin's Russia, 385 00:23:35,000 --> 00:23:38,560 Speaker 1: the media have become the nation's number one spreader of 386 00:23:38,720 --> 00:23:43,680 Speaker 1: hated fake news. What's the case and point when Obama 387 00:23:43,720 --> 00:23:45,639 Speaker 1: tossed a number of Russians out of the country, what 388 00:23:45,760 --> 00:23:50,000 Speaker 1: thirty five of them to retaliate against the Russian hacking. Now, 389 00:23:50,080 --> 00:23:53,560 Speaker 1: let me remind you the government knew about whatever hacking 390 00:23:53,840 --> 00:23:58,200 Speaker 1: Wiki Leaks had that they supposedly got from Putin way 391 00:23:58,240 --> 00:24:01,600 Speaker 1: before the election. There nothing new that has come out 392 00:24:02,160 --> 00:24:05,000 Speaker 1: that they have any new information or any new evidence 393 00:24:05,040 --> 00:24:09,879 Speaker 1: of hacking post election. This narrative began weeks after the 394 00:24:09,960 --> 00:24:14,560 Speaker 1: election when their original narratives and their recounts didn't work. 395 00:24:15,240 --> 00:24:18,240 Speaker 1: So now, in an effort to de legitimize Donald Trump's presidency, 396 00:24:18,280 --> 00:24:20,840 Speaker 1: this is what they've now resorted to. Now we know 397 00:24:21,000 --> 00:24:25,199 Speaker 1: that the Washington Post, The New York Times, Political NBC, ABC, CBS, 398 00:24:25,600 --> 00:24:29,119 Speaker 1: and of course CNN and MSNBC and CNBC. All of 399 00:24:29,160 --> 00:24:33,520 Speaker 1: these networks colluded with the Hillary Clinton campaign. So now 400 00:24:33,560 --> 00:24:36,800 Speaker 1: they're advancing a false narrative to convince you that the 401 00:24:36,880 --> 00:24:40,760 Speaker 1: Russians are hacking all the time. So when Obama tosses 402 00:24:40,800 --> 00:24:43,639 Speaker 1: out a number of Russians, he's trying to create a 403 00:24:43,640 --> 00:24:46,600 Speaker 1: false impression. The same guy that did nothing about twenty 404 00:24:46,600 --> 00:24:50,280 Speaker 1: three million documents being hacked by China. Anyways, then it 405 00:24:50,359 --> 00:24:52,440 Speaker 1: comes out that the Russians hacked into the U s 406 00:24:52,480 --> 00:24:56,000 Speaker 1: Power grid and Vermont and that could rereak real havoc 407 00:24:56,000 --> 00:24:59,560 Speaker 1: on our on the national grid. That story turned out 408 00:24:59,560 --> 00:25:02,800 Speaker 1: to be fall as the Washington Post how to retract 409 00:25:02,880 --> 00:25:06,960 Speaker 1: that claim. And on top of it, if the president 410 00:25:07,040 --> 00:25:10,560 Speaker 1: really had the evidence that, in fact, the Vladimir Putin 411 00:25:10,600 --> 00:25:12,439 Speaker 1: and the Russians did this and handed it off to 412 00:25:12,520 --> 00:25:16,320 Speaker 1: Julian Osange, then the question is, well, why wouldn't they 413 00:25:16,520 --> 00:25:21,080 Speaker 1: hand over that that information, hand over that evidence to 414 00:25:21,240 --> 00:25:25,320 Speaker 1: Congress with just the opposite is happening. The President and 415 00:25:25,440 --> 00:25:29,639 Speaker 1: his administration are still stonewall in congressional demands for whatever 416 00:25:29,760 --> 00:25:32,440 Speaker 1: evidence they have that would show that this claim is 417 00:25:32,480 --> 00:25:36,679 Speaker 1: actually true. And over the holidays you had Washington Democrats 418 00:25:36,720 --> 00:25:40,280 Speaker 1: pounding away, Vladimir Putin, the Russians, they all hacked the 419 00:25:40,320 --> 00:25:42,240 Speaker 1: d n C emails. They all did it to help 420 00:25:42,280 --> 00:25:45,120 Speaker 1: Donald Trump win the election. And they talk as if 421 00:25:45,160 --> 00:25:48,040 Speaker 1: it's proved. They've proven their case beyond any reasonable doubt, 422 00:25:48,520 --> 00:25:52,200 Speaker 1: and anybody who raises questions is nothing but a putent patsy. 423 00:25:53,920 --> 00:25:56,800 Speaker 1: Why do you think CNN wants to interview me? CNN 424 00:25:57,000 --> 00:26:00,320 Speaker 1: wants to again collude for the Democrats, end obam in 425 00:26:00,480 --> 00:26:03,200 Speaker 1: Hillary and they want to say, well, you were once 426 00:26:03,280 --> 00:26:06,639 Speaker 1: critical of of of of a sang and now you're 427 00:26:06,680 --> 00:26:09,720 Speaker 1: interviewing your best I just thought it was so some 428 00:26:09,880 --> 00:26:14,160 Speaker 1: would watch. You thought it was one, so someone would watch, watch, 429 00:26:14,680 --> 00:26:21,919 Speaker 1: watch CNN some ratings for once. That's know what they 430 00:26:21,960 --> 00:26:24,400 Speaker 1: want to do is they want to discredit me. Well, 431 00:26:24,400 --> 00:26:27,800 Speaker 1: in ten you said this, Well, I've asked him, and 432 00:26:28,119 --> 00:26:32,800 Speaker 1: I have quoted my own quotes to him. But I 433 00:26:32,800 --> 00:26:37,600 Speaker 1: do forward to them asking Obama about the shovel ready jobs. Yeah, yeah, 434 00:26:38,400 --> 00:26:41,520 Speaker 1: Now there is a top security expert on McAfee. I 435 00:26:41,560 --> 00:26:44,880 Speaker 1: guarantee you it wasn't the Russians. I've talked to other 436 00:26:44,920 --> 00:26:48,720 Speaker 1: experts as well. Roger Simon had a really really good 437 00:26:48,720 --> 00:26:52,800 Speaker 1: column out is a good writer. Do our intelligence agencies 438 00:26:52,840 --> 00:26:56,719 Speaker 1: suffer from Trump arrangement syndrome and it goes on the right, 439 00:26:57,000 --> 00:26:59,600 Speaker 1: it'd be a little, It'll be more than a little 440 00:26:59,640 --> 00:27:02,560 Speaker 1: disturb irving if we found out our intelligence agencies suffer 441 00:27:02,640 --> 00:27:06,440 Speaker 1: from Trump dearrangement syndrome, especially with the inauguration of Donald 442 00:27:06,440 --> 00:27:10,680 Speaker 1: Trump as our president only slightly more than two weeks away. Nevertheless, 443 00:27:10,720 --> 00:27:14,760 Speaker 1: we've been told that seventeen seventeen of our intelligence agencies 444 00:27:14,800 --> 00:27:17,720 Speaker 1: are sure that the computers of the Clinton campaign and 445 00:27:17,760 --> 00:27:21,320 Speaker 1: Democratic National Committee were hacked by Russians under the direct 446 00:27:21,400 --> 00:27:25,159 Speaker 1: orders from Vladimir Putin himself, as we all know. Putin 447 00:27:25,160 --> 00:27:28,320 Speaker 1: and Trump or Bosom buddies and cahoots. Well, we're not 448 00:27:28,359 --> 00:27:30,639 Speaker 1: sure about that part, but they must be up to something. 449 00:27:31,520 --> 00:27:36,200 Speaker 1: In other words, this is all a lie to the media. Lies, 450 00:27:36,920 --> 00:27:39,800 Speaker 1: the government of Obama. Lies. Keep your doctor, keep your plans, 451 00:27:39,840 --> 00:27:42,720 Speaker 1: save money. I mean, the president's out there actually trying 452 00:27:42,720 --> 00:27:45,080 Speaker 1: to make a legacy case for himself that the economy 453 00:27:45,160 --> 00:27:47,679 Speaker 1: is in great shape. By had time today, I'll do 454 00:27:47,720 --> 00:27:50,960 Speaker 1: it sometime this week. I've got more statistics about how 455 00:27:51,000 --> 00:27:54,639 Speaker 1: bad he's leaving this economy. I'll put it up on 456 00:27:54,680 --> 00:27:57,159 Speaker 1: the website. It'll shock your conscience, but I don't have 457 00:27:57,200 --> 00:28:01,000 Speaker 1: time today. Now. There was the FBI Department of Homeland 458 00:28:01,040 --> 00:28:04,200 Speaker 1: Security report, and I do ask Julian Assange about this. 459 00:28:04,840 --> 00:28:09,160 Speaker 1: It was a third teen page joint statement accusing Russian 460 00:28:09,160 --> 00:28:14,720 Speaker 1: civilian and military intelligence services of compromising networks and infrastructure 461 00:28:14,880 --> 00:28:18,760 Speaker 1: social associated with the twenty sixteen campaign. Aaron Klein wrote 462 00:28:18,800 --> 00:28:20,960 Speaker 1: a pretty good column about this, and he points out 463 00:28:21,080 --> 00:28:23,600 Speaker 1: much of the news media and their coverage of this 464 00:28:23,720 --> 00:28:27,960 Speaker 1: joint report, they don't mention that the thirteen page document, 465 00:28:28,480 --> 00:28:32,040 Speaker 1: which is extremely short on specifics and Assans read it 466 00:28:32,160 --> 00:28:36,199 Speaker 1: in full, starts off with a glaring disclaimer that the 467 00:28:36,240 --> 00:28:40,640 Speaker 1: Department of Homeland Security doesn't provide any warranties about the 468 00:28:40,680 --> 00:28:44,840 Speaker 1: information contained inside the report. They actually have a disclaimer. 469 00:28:45,320 --> 00:28:48,840 Speaker 1: This is the definitive statement of the FBI and DHS quote. 470 00:28:49,200 --> 00:28:54,959 Speaker 1: This report is provided as is for informational purposes only. 471 00:28:55,560 --> 00:28:59,360 Speaker 1: The Department of Homeland Security does not provide any warranties 472 00:28:59,800 --> 00:29:05,800 Speaker 1: of any kind regarding any information contained with it. That's 473 00:29:05,800 --> 00:29:09,440 Speaker 1: like saying everything in here maybe false, is probably false, 474 00:29:09,480 --> 00:29:12,080 Speaker 1: but we're doing it for a little for political purposes, 475 00:29:12,600 --> 00:29:15,560 Speaker 1: so there's no proof Russian hacking influenced the election, And 476 00:29:15,840 --> 00:29:18,080 Speaker 1: they're also subtly trying to make you think, well, they 477 00:29:18,160 --> 00:29:21,400 Speaker 1: must have gotten gotten into the voting machines. Now they're 478 00:29:21,400 --> 00:29:25,120 Speaker 1: talking about the Podesta emails, the d n C emails 479 00:29:25,120 --> 00:29:28,480 Speaker 1: that showed they were racist and anti Semitic and misogynistic. 480 00:29:28,880 --> 00:29:32,640 Speaker 1: They're talking about the Podesta emails, they're talking about the 481 00:29:32,720 --> 00:29:35,880 Speaker 1: questions about Hillary's health to talking about everything that we exposed. 482 00:29:36,000 --> 00:29:37,600 Speaker 1: Oh and of course they're friends in the media that 483 00:29:37,640 --> 00:29:40,600 Speaker 1: they collude with every day. That was another big part 484 00:29:40,640 --> 00:29:43,640 Speaker 1: of it. By the way, more than fifteen hundred, you 485 00:29:43,640 --> 00:29:46,960 Speaker 1: don't think we ought to be vetting refugees. More than 486 00:29:47,000 --> 00:29:51,400 Speaker 1: fifteen hundred of Obama's refugees have been diagnosed with tuberculosis 487 00:29:52,200 --> 00:29:57,000 Speaker 1: t B, one of the top ten causes of death worldwide. 488 00:29:56,200 --> 00:29:59,680 Speaker 1: Ten point four million people fell ill with t B. 489 00:30:00,320 --> 00:30:03,480 Speaker 1: Two million of those died from the disease. Do you 490 00:30:03,480 --> 00:30:07,120 Speaker 1: think we could at least check that out? Um? By 491 00:30:07,160 --> 00:30:10,120 Speaker 1: the way, I love the Trump tweet today to uh 492 00:30:10,400 --> 00:30:12,880 Speaker 1: rom dead fish Emmanuel that if he can't fix his city, 493 00:30:12,920 --> 00:30:18,560 Speaker 1: seven sixty three murdered, over forty shot this year, and 494 00:30:18,680 --> 00:30:20,720 Speaker 1: maybe the Feds need to come in and help him 495 00:30:20,760 --> 00:30:23,920 Speaker 1: out to save lives. Maybe that could be a job 496 00:30:23,920 --> 00:30:25,680 Speaker 1: for Rudy Giuliani. He knew how to do it. In 497 00:30:25,680 --> 00:30:29,000 Speaker 1: New York City. A guy who served as Chicago's top 498 00:30:29,120 --> 00:30:33,520 Speaker 1: cop until said over the weekend, black Lives matters responsible 499 00:30:33,560 --> 00:30:36,440 Speaker 1: for the rising national crime wave that has resulted in 500 00:30:36,480 --> 00:30:38,440 Speaker 1: a ten percent jump in the homicide rate in a 501 00:30:38,480 --> 00:30:41,440 Speaker 1: single year. He said, what's happening is ironic. It's a 502 00:30:41,480 --> 00:30:44,440 Speaker 1: movement with the goal of saving black lives. At this 503 00:30:44,480 --> 00:30:47,640 Speaker 1: point is getting black lives taken because of our victims 504 00:30:47,640 --> 00:30:52,040 Speaker 1: in Chicago were mail blacks. Well, if they cared about 505 00:30:52,320 --> 00:30:55,640 Speaker 1: black lives, maybe they would help out black communities and 506 00:30:55,760 --> 00:30:59,920 Speaker 1: police them properly and save the lives and the talent 507 00:31:00,120 --> 00:31:02,280 Speaker 1: of those people that live in the neighborhood that deserve 508 00:31:02,320 --> 00:31:06,840 Speaker 1: our support. By the way, Trump on Gitmo, he said, 509 00:31:06,880 --> 00:31:09,560 Speaker 1: locked the door, throw away the key, and maybe we 510 00:31:09,600 --> 00:31:12,640 Speaker 1: can dig up the soccer field that Obama built them. 511 00:31:12,720 --> 00:31:15,480 Speaker 1: And they really need a soccer field to Gitmo. And 512 00:31:15,520 --> 00:31:17,760 Speaker 1: maybe it's time to take away the Koran that they're 513 00:31:17,840 --> 00:31:22,720 Speaker 1: using to justify their radical Islamic views to kill infidels 514 00:31:23,240 --> 00:31:26,920 Speaker 1: and wage jihad in Holy war. Just a few suggestions 515 00:31:26,920 --> 00:31:28,760 Speaker 1: for the year. All right, we're gonna get new ging 516 00:31:28,840 --> 00:31:30,680 Speaker 1: ridges take on all of this. By the way, I 517 00:31:30,640 --> 00:31:33,720 Speaker 1: gotta give forward a lot of credit today, the seven 518 00:31:33,760 --> 00:31:36,840 Speaker 1: hundred million dollar investment that they were gonna have in 519 00:31:36,920 --> 00:31:40,320 Speaker 1: Mexico for their small cars is now going to flat 520 00:31:40,400 --> 00:31:43,880 Speaker 1: Rock Michigan, and lots of jobs are going to be saved. 521 00:31:44,680 --> 00:31:48,680 Speaker 1: Thank god, those people in Michigan need those jobs. And 522 00:31:48,720 --> 00:31:51,719 Speaker 1: maybe having a president that's promising to change the regulation 523 00:31:52,200 --> 00:31:55,120 Speaker 1: and confiscatory corporate tax rate one of the highest in 524 00:31:55,160 --> 00:31:57,440 Speaker 1: the world to one of the lowest. I bet that's 525 00:31:57,440 --> 00:31:59,440 Speaker 1: influencing a lot of companies to say, you know what, 526 00:31:59,720 --> 00:32:02,360 Speaker 1: let's day in America. We love this country. We just 527 00:32:02,440 --> 00:32:05,440 Speaker 1: need a better economic environment so that we can actually 528 00:32:05,440 --> 00:32:08,360 Speaker 1: make a profit. Can you say to the American people 529 00:32:09,200 --> 00:32:13,760 Speaker 1: unequivocally that you did not get this information about the 530 00:32:13,840 --> 00:32:16,920 Speaker 1: d n C John Podesta's emails. Can you tell the 531 00:32:16,960 --> 00:32:19,520 Speaker 1: American people a thousand percent you did not get it 532 00:32:19,520 --> 00:32:23,760 Speaker 1: from Russia or anybody associated with Russia. We can say, 533 00:32:24,360 --> 00:32:28,680 Speaker 1: we have said repeatedly over the last two months that 534 00:32:29,120 --> 00:32:33,240 Speaker 1: our source is not the Russian government and it is 535 00:32:33,400 --> 00:32:37,520 Speaker 1: not state party. The US government is accusing Wiki leaks 536 00:32:37,560 --> 00:32:40,800 Speaker 1: of having received these materials from Russia, and you say 537 00:32:40,840 --> 00:32:44,040 Speaker 1: it's false, it did not come from Russia. And the 538 00:32:44,080 --> 00:32:46,960 Speaker 1: President of the United States is advancing the narrative. Is 539 00:32:47,000 --> 00:32:51,280 Speaker 1: the President of the United States lying to the American people? Well, 540 00:32:51,320 --> 00:32:54,120 Speaker 1: he's acting like a lawyer. If you look at most 541 00:32:54,120 --> 00:32:58,000 Speaker 1: of his statements, he doesn't say that. He doesn't say, uh, 542 00:32:58,520 --> 00:33:03,240 Speaker 1: Wiki leaks obtain its information from Russia, worked with Russia 543 00:33:03,600 --> 00:33:07,680 Speaker 1: just trying to influence election. Yes, so he and you 544 00:33:07,760 --> 00:33:12,480 Speaker 1: also note that he doesn't say, ah, I from the 545 00:33:12,520 --> 00:33:16,800 Speaker 1: statements that I've read, he doesn't say that Russia was 546 00:33:16,840 --> 00:33:21,200 Speaker 1: trying to influence the election for Donald Trump. Our publications 547 00:33:23,160 --> 00:33:28,120 Speaker 1: had wide uptake by the American people. They're all true. Um, 548 00:33:28,160 --> 00:33:31,760 Speaker 1: but that's not the allegation that has been presented by 549 00:33:31,840 --> 00:33:37,960 Speaker 1: the Obama White House. So why is such a dramatic response. Well, 550 00:33:38,160 --> 00:33:42,760 Speaker 1: the reason it's obvious they're trying to delegitimize Trump administration 551 00:33:42,840 --> 00:33:44,840 Speaker 1: as it goes into the White House. They're going to 552 00:33:44,920 --> 00:33:50,200 Speaker 1: try they are trying to say that President elect Trump 553 00:33:51,240 --> 00:33:55,040 Speaker 1: is not a legitimate president. All right. That was my 554 00:33:55,160 --> 00:33:59,400 Speaker 1: interview with Julia Sans yesterday at the Ecuadorian Embassy. Our 555 00:33:59,560 --> 00:34:02,440 Speaker 1: two of the Sean Hannity Show. Happy New Year, by 556 00:34:02,480 --> 00:34:05,360 Speaker 1: the way to all of you irredeemable, deplorable people in 557 00:34:05,400 --> 00:34:08,440 Speaker 1: this audience. God bless you all in the year. This 558 00:34:08,480 --> 00:34:12,360 Speaker 1: will be one of the toughest political years on record 559 00:34:12,600 --> 00:34:15,279 Speaker 1: that I can guarantee you joining us now. He's been 560 00:34:15,320 --> 00:34:17,600 Speaker 1: a great friend all throughout this year and of course 561 00:34:17,600 --> 00:34:21,000 Speaker 1: into next year. Is former Speaker of the House New Kingridge. 562 00:34:21,000 --> 00:34:24,120 Speaker 1: How are you, sir? I'm doing great and congratulations what 563 00:34:24,200 --> 00:34:27,759 Speaker 1: a too you know? Thank you very much. What what 564 00:34:27,800 --> 00:34:30,680 Speaker 1: did I look? If you ask me you I'll let 565 00:34:30,719 --> 00:34:32,360 Speaker 1: you interview me and this as part of the interview. 566 00:34:32,440 --> 00:34:34,800 Speaker 1: If you ask me if I believe him, the answer 567 00:34:34,840 --> 00:34:37,560 Speaker 1: is unequivocally yes. Oh wait wait, if I'm getting interview, 568 00:34:37,560 --> 00:34:39,520 Speaker 1: I own to start at the beginning. When did you 569 00:34:39,560 --> 00:34:41,960 Speaker 1: know you could you could get in, go to the 570 00:34:41,960 --> 00:34:44,120 Speaker 1: ecuador And embassy and have this kind of an in 571 00:34:44,200 --> 00:34:47,319 Speaker 1: depth conversation with him. We've been working on it all 572 00:34:47,360 --> 00:34:50,880 Speaker 1: throughout my vacation. I needed a hundred percent confirmation, and 573 00:34:51,000 --> 00:34:54,799 Speaker 1: that meant confirmation from the Ecuadorian embassy that they would 574 00:34:54,880 --> 00:34:57,920 Speaker 1: let me in. Julian Assange had agreed to the interview 575 00:34:57,960 --> 00:35:00,279 Speaker 1: two weeks prior, and then we had a war count 576 00:35:00,320 --> 00:35:04,120 Speaker 1: the final details. So I left Miami on what night 577 00:35:04,200 --> 00:35:07,799 Speaker 1: was it? I guess on Saturday night at midnight? Now 578 00:35:07,840 --> 00:35:11,160 Speaker 1: Saturday night at nine pm. Arrived now Sunday night at 579 00:35:11,239 --> 00:35:15,880 Speaker 1: nine pm. Arrived ten thirty am local time in London yesterday, 580 00:35:15,920 --> 00:35:17,719 Speaker 1: really eleven am. It was about a half hour late 581 00:35:17,719 --> 00:35:20,239 Speaker 1: getting in. Did the interview at one after taking a 582 00:35:20,320 --> 00:35:23,279 Speaker 1: quick shower, then went back to the airport and flew 583 00:35:23,320 --> 00:35:25,759 Speaker 1: home and got home about nine o'clock last night. So 584 00:35:26,040 --> 00:35:29,319 Speaker 1: that is a quick turnaround. It was sixteen hours in 585 00:35:29,360 --> 00:35:31,640 Speaker 1: the air and six hours on the ground in London. 586 00:35:31,800 --> 00:35:33,560 Speaker 1: So if you have to do an interview that is 587 00:35:33,600 --> 00:35:37,120 Speaker 1: this important and it covers this much ground, how how 588 00:35:37,160 --> 00:35:39,959 Speaker 1: do you or Goanna mean, you must have had even 589 00:35:39,960 --> 00:35:42,360 Speaker 1: as smart as you are, you must have had a 590 00:35:42,400 --> 00:35:46,160 Speaker 1: set of organized questions you knew you wanted to walk through. 591 00:35:46,360 --> 00:35:49,799 Speaker 1: As far as how long did you work on that? Um, well, 592 00:35:49,840 --> 00:35:53,360 Speaker 1: pretty much the entire eight hours going over. I didn't sleep, 593 00:35:53,719 --> 00:35:56,560 Speaker 1: That's amazing. And then when I got then here's the 594 00:35:56,560 --> 00:35:58,880 Speaker 1: best part. He was very generous with his time. I 595 00:35:58,920 --> 00:36:02,120 Speaker 1: think we had film time of an hour. In twenty minutes, 596 00:36:02,640 --> 00:36:06,480 Speaker 1: the problem for me on TV tonight is condensing it 597 00:36:06,560 --> 00:36:08,480 Speaker 1: down to an hour and then we'll run some more 598 00:36:08,520 --> 00:36:11,600 Speaker 1: tomorrow night and and ask you for commentary on it. Well, 599 00:36:11,600 --> 00:36:13,800 Speaker 1: that's I mean, when I first saw the initial clips, 600 00:36:13,840 --> 00:36:16,560 Speaker 1: I thought, this is a really terrific coup in your 601 00:36:16,600 --> 00:36:20,919 Speaker 1: part two. Have the opportunity to to get into the embassy, Uh, 602 00:36:21,040 --> 00:36:24,040 Speaker 1: to interview this this guy who's world famous, Uh, and 603 00:36:24,120 --> 00:36:26,560 Speaker 1: to do it on a topic that is could hardly 604 00:36:26,600 --> 00:36:30,680 Speaker 1: be timely. I mean, somehow, you know, nobody's really gotten 605 00:36:30,719 --> 00:36:34,320 Speaker 1: to the to the heart of the whole wiki lea system. Uh. 606 00:36:34,400 --> 00:36:36,799 Speaker 1: And yet it's it's vivid proof that we don't have 607 00:36:36,880 --> 00:36:40,520 Speaker 1: sign of cybersecurity, we have cyber vulnerability. Well, I think 608 00:36:40,520 --> 00:36:42,960 Speaker 1: the two things if we would learn the lesson from 609 00:36:43,040 --> 00:36:45,880 Speaker 1: Julian Assans, that's one of the lessons I picked up. 610 00:36:46,120 --> 00:36:50,080 Speaker 1: We have no cybersecurity. Countries are waging cyber warfare against us. 611 00:36:50,120 --> 00:36:53,000 Speaker 1: That's number one. Number two, I think he exposed a 612 00:36:53,120 --> 00:36:56,600 Speaker 1: level of corruption that none of us could have imagined 613 00:36:56,800 --> 00:36:59,279 Speaker 1: with the John Podesta emails, but the corruption of the 614 00:36:59,360 --> 00:37:02,840 Speaker 1: d n C collusion to stop Bernie Sanders, the collusion 615 00:37:02,880 --> 00:37:05,640 Speaker 1: with the news media and the Hillary campaign, and I 616 00:37:05,680 --> 00:37:08,920 Speaker 1: asked him numerous times, would he have also done the 617 00:37:08,960 --> 00:37:11,360 Speaker 1: same thing if it was information on Donald Trump? And 618 00:37:11,400 --> 00:37:13,600 Speaker 1: his answer was yes, I'll even tell you more. He said, 619 00:37:13,640 --> 00:37:17,080 Speaker 1: he's never spoken to Vladimir Putin or any of his surrogates, 620 00:37:17,120 --> 00:37:20,320 Speaker 1: He's never spoken to Donald Trump or any of his surrogates, 621 00:37:20,360 --> 00:37:23,680 Speaker 1: and that this information came to him, he would he 622 00:37:23,719 --> 00:37:26,960 Speaker 1: would as a usual on a usual basis. He has 623 00:37:27,000 --> 00:37:30,279 Speaker 1: a policy. They don't reveal sources. They've never been wrong 624 00:37:30,320 --> 00:37:32,400 Speaker 1: in ten years, and in terms of what it is 625 00:37:32,440 --> 00:37:34,880 Speaker 1: that they print, and he said, if people think this 626 00:37:35,000 --> 00:37:37,759 Speaker 1: influence the American election, it's only because people didn't like 627 00:37:37,840 --> 00:37:40,960 Speaker 1: what they were reading about Hillary. That's right. Interestingly, nobody 628 00:37:41,000 --> 00:37:45,320 Speaker 1: has challenged the accuracy of what they have released because 629 00:37:45,360 --> 00:37:48,560 Speaker 1: it's accurate. Those were the emails. I mean, look, even 630 00:37:48,600 --> 00:37:51,640 Speaker 1: pretty much the Democrats have acknowledged it's the emails, and 631 00:37:51,680 --> 00:37:54,960 Speaker 1: it exploded. Look, you've been around government for a long time, 632 00:37:55,640 --> 00:37:59,480 Speaker 1: don't you think this is somewhat breathtaking and unprecedented the 633 00:37:59,560 --> 00:38:02,160 Speaker 1: collusion as in between the Democrats and the media in 634 00:38:02,160 --> 00:38:07,520 Speaker 1: this country. There are so many pieces to this year. Um, 635 00:38:07,640 --> 00:38:11,920 Speaker 1: that's it's hard to imagine even as somebody writes novels. 636 00:38:12,040 --> 00:38:14,200 Speaker 1: It's hard to imagine how you'd weave it all together 637 00:38:14,360 --> 00:38:17,320 Speaker 1: and make it believable. I mean, how do you get 638 00:38:17,320 --> 00:38:19,920 Speaker 1: the level of corruption that was inherent in the entire 639 00:38:20,440 --> 00:38:23,759 Speaker 1: Clinton Foundation operation? How do you get a guy as 640 00:38:23,800 --> 00:38:27,120 Speaker 1: smart as John Podesta writing some of the stuff he wrote? 641 00:38:27,440 --> 00:38:29,480 Speaker 1: How do you how do you get somebody as smartness 642 00:38:29,560 --> 00:38:32,880 Speaker 1: Hillary Clinton thinking she can get away with deleting thirty 643 00:38:32,920 --> 00:38:35,680 Speaker 1: three thousand emails? And then, of course, as you have 644 00:38:35,800 --> 00:38:38,040 Speaker 1: point out him as the night people will get to 645 00:38:38,080 --> 00:38:41,000 Speaker 1: see first hand on your show, you have you have 646 00:38:41,480 --> 00:38:44,840 Speaker 1: this guy who's who's basically you know, isolated in the 647 00:38:44,880 --> 00:38:47,160 Speaker 1: Ecuador and embassy can't leave or he's going to be 648 00:38:47,160 --> 00:38:50,440 Speaker 1: deported to Sweden and uh and then charge with the 649 00:38:50,440 --> 00:38:53,920 Speaker 1: criminal offensive rape he made. He made a very powerful 650 00:38:54,040 --> 00:38:56,719 Speaker 1: defense of that charge. I mean, I believe it. It 651 00:38:56,800 --> 00:38:58,840 Speaker 1: ain't gone home to do it in the court. My 652 00:38:58,880 --> 00:39:00,879 Speaker 1: only point is, I mean, how can you have a Guys, 653 00:39:01,120 --> 00:39:04,000 Speaker 1: think about this, just this that if somebody came into 654 00:39:04,000 --> 00:39:06,959 Speaker 1: a movie the company and said, I got this great plot. 655 00:39:07,000 --> 00:39:10,000 Speaker 1: We're going to have this guy who is an internationally 656 00:39:10,120 --> 00:39:14,480 Speaker 1: known cyber specialist locked up in a Latin American embassy 657 00:39:14,600 --> 00:39:17,680 Speaker 1: in London, and he is going to wreck the front 658 00:39:17,760 --> 00:39:21,400 Speaker 1: learner for the Democratic nomination and probable next president, and 659 00:39:21,440 --> 00:39:23,719 Speaker 1: it's all going to be done online. It is you. Ever, 660 00:39:23,920 --> 00:39:26,120 Speaker 1: you could never sell that as a movie plot. We 661 00:39:26,200 --> 00:39:28,839 Speaker 1: have our good friend Bill Gertz has a brand new 662 00:39:28,840 --> 00:39:31,680 Speaker 1: book out called I War. If we don't start paying 663 00:39:31,719 --> 00:39:34,680 Speaker 1: attention to cybersecurity, we do so to our own peril. 664 00:39:34,840 --> 00:39:37,000 Speaker 1: Because that's exactly right. Let me let me ask you 665 00:39:37,040 --> 00:39:39,200 Speaker 1: this question. While I was away on vacation, I did 666 00:39:39,200 --> 00:39:41,360 Speaker 1: print out an article that quoted you. I think it 667 00:39:41,400 --> 00:39:44,319 Speaker 1: was this past Sunday on this week, and it had 668 00:39:44,360 --> 00:39:46,880 Speaker 1: you quoted as saying your biggest fear about the Trump 669 00:39:46,920 --> 00:39:50,319 Speaker 1: administration as they may lose their nerve. Tell me what 670 00:39:50,360 --> 00:39:53,560 Speaker 1: you mean, and I don't mean Trump himself necessarily when 671 00:39:53,600 --> 00:39:55,680 Speaker 1: you try to tackle And this happened with Reagan a 672 00:39:55,760 --> 00:39:58,120 Speaker 1: number of times. You know he he ended up. He 673 00:39:58,160 --> 00:40:01,040 Speaker 1: wanted to say, Mr Gorbachov, share down this wall when 674 00:40:01,040 --> 00:40:03,839 Speaker 1: he was in Berlin. The entire state department opposed him. 675 00:40:03,880 --> 00:40:05,520 Speaker 1: He had he had to put it back in the 676 00:40:05,560 --> 00:40:08,680 Speaker 1: speech three times. When he finally insisted on it at 677 00:40:08,680 --> 00:40:12,640 Speaker 1: the breakfast the morning of his speech in Berlin. Every 678 00:40:12,760 --> 00:40:16,120 Speaker 1: senior staff person begged him to take it out. They said, 679 00:40:16,160 --> 00:40:17,759 Speaker 1: that's gonna the wall is gonna be there for thirty 680 00:40:17,800 --> 00:40:20,520 Speaker 1: or forty more years. The CIA thinks just makes no sense. 681 00:40:20,760 --> 00:40:23,760 Speaker 1: The State Department thinks you're gonna offend Gorbachov for no avail, 682 00:40:23,920 --> 00:40:27,040 Speaker 1: and he just stubbornly stuck to his guns. Now, I 683 00:40:27,080 --> 00:40:30,240 Speaker 1: think President MacDonald Trump has the same nerve that Raven 684 00:40:30,360 --> 00:40:33,200 Speaker 1: Reagan did. But here's the difference. The scale of change 685 00:40:33,280 --> 00:40:37,000 Speaker 1: that Trump wants is dramatically bigger than the scale of 686 00:40:37,040 --> 00:40:39,960 Speaker 1: domestic change Reagan wanted. I mean, Reagan went in and 687 00:40:39,960 --> 00:40:42,680 Speaker 1: he did certain very specific things, but he wasn't trying 688 00:40:42,680 --> 00:40:46,400 Speaker 1: to reshape making America great again. He wasn't trying to 689 00:40:46,440 --> 00:40:49,759 Speaker 1: reshape all of our different regulatory systems. He wasn't trying 690 00:40:49,760 --> 00:40:52,120 Speaker 1: to get school choice for every poor child in the country. 691 00:40:52,239 --> 00:40:55,000 Speaker 1: I mean, you look at Trump's goals, they're much bigger 692 00:40:55,000 --> 00:40:59,239 Speaker 1: than Reagan's. And that means that an entire team, one 693 00:40:59,280 --> 00:41:02,480 Speaker 1: of my passes, who has to take this, this cabinet 694 00:41:02,520 --> 00:41:05,719 Speaker 1: of winners which he's assembled and turned it into um 695 00:41:07,080 --> 00:41:10,520 Speaker 1: the team so that they they they are totally committed 696 00:41:10,560 --> 00:41:13,960 Speaker 1: to working with each other because they're going to come 697 00:41:14,040 --> 00:41:16,759 Speaker 1: under so much pressure. The first day they walk into 698 00:41:16,800 --> 00:41:22,120 Speaker 1: their cabinet officis, virtually every UM civil servant who reports 699 00:41:22,160 --> 00:41:25,000 Speaker 1: to them will have voted for Obama and voted for Hilly. 700 00:41:25,239 --> 00:41:27,439 Speaker 1: And that's what they're surrounded by. So when they say, 701 00:41:27,440 --> 00:41:30,360 Speaker 1: what are my options in phase one, they're gonna get junk. 702 00:41:30,600 --> 00:41:32,879 Speaker 1: They're gonna have people who don't believe in what they're doing. 703 00:41:33,000 --> 00:41:36,440 Speaker 1: They're gonna be undermined by by the professional politicians. And 704 00:41:36,480 --> 00:41:38,880 Speaker 1: if you're paying very close attention, and I love to 705 00:41:38,880 --> 00:41:42,120 Speaker 1: get your commentary commentary on this, you know, Obama seems 706 00:41:42,160 --> 00:41:45,359 Speaker 1: to be putting up one roadblock after another. He's he's 707 00:41:45,800 --> 00:41:49,840 Speaker 1: issuing one executive order after another, you know, seemingly to 708 00:41:49,920 --> 00:41:54,320 Speaker 1: block or turn hostile towards Donald Trump. And and whatever 709 00:41:54,360 --> 00:41:56,720 Speaker 1: smooth transition that he had promised is out the window. 710 00:41:58,440 --> 00:42:00,920 Speaker 1: We need to understand the left is engaged in a 711 00:42:00,960 --> 00:42:04,439 Speaker 1: permanent war against US. Uh. You know you had this 712 00:42:04,440 --> 00:42:06,560 Speaker 1: This professor today has said that we need White ten 713 00:42:06,640 --> 00:42:10,839 Speaker 1: acide just to just go through item after item after item. Uh. 714 00:42:10,880 --> 00:42:13,160 Speaker 1: And every time you turn around, you're gonna you're gonna 715 00:42:13,200 --> 00:42:16,359 Speaker 1: be hammered like this. And no one should forget. This 716 00:42:16,640 --> 00:42:19,080 Speaker 1: is the capital city of the other team. It is 717 00:42:19,160 --> 00:42:23,680 Speaker 1: their news media, it is their lobbyist, it is their bureaucrats. 718 00:42:23,719 --> 00:42:25,920 Speaker 1: And so when you arrive here as a good government 719 00:42:25,960 --> 00:42:28,400 Speaker 1: business person and you think, oh, this is all going 720 00:42:28,440 --> 00:42:30,560 Speaker 1: to be you know, we won. Now they're going to 721 00:42:30,640 --> 00:42:33,640 Speaker 1: obey us. No, no, no no, They're gonna find every 722 00:42:33,719 --> 00:42:37,040 Speaker 1: possible method to slow you down, to distract you, to 723 00:42:37,120 --> 00:42:39,920 Speaker 1: convince you it's not possible. And that's why you have 724 00:42:40,000 --> 00:42:44,080 Speaker 1: to be so relentless and so tough, and because and 725 00:42:44,120 --> 00:42:46,640 Speaker 1: I think this is a good thing, because President elect 726 00:42:46,640 --> 00:42:49,640 Speaker 1: Trump's goals are so lofty, because he really does want 727 00:42:49,680 --> 00:42:52,160 Speaker 1: to make America great again, because he really does want 728 00:42:52,200 --> 00:42:54,160 Speaker 1: to turn the economy around. I mean, he's going to 729 00:42:54,280 --> 00:42:56,600 Speaker 1: have all the Greens mad at him over e p A. 730 00:42:56,800 --> 00:43:00,239 Speaker 1: He's gonna have the teacher's union enraged over us cool 731 00:43:00,320 --> 00:43:03,000 Speaker 1: choice and the great job that I think that Besty 732 00:43:03,360 --> 00:43:06,640 Speaker 1: Divos will do. Uh. He is gonna have all sorts 733 00:43:06,640 --> 00:43:10,760 Speaker 1: of left winners upset. And at the Department of Labor, 734 00:43:10,840 --> 00:43:14,360 Speaker 1: He's going to have the the Career Foreign Service upset 735 00:43:14,400 --> 00:43:16,319 Speaker 1: at the State Department. I mean, all of these things 736 00:43:16,360 --> 00:43:18,680 Speaker 1: are going to be surrounding him, and he's gonna have 737 00:43:18,719 --> 00:43:22,239 Speaker 1: a news media which just plan doesn't understand what he's 738 00:43:22,280 --> 00:43:25,240 Speaker 1: doing and as opposed to the parts they do understand. 739 00:43:25,320 --> 00:43:27,440 Speaker 1: You know, the funny thing is, you know, Chuck Todd 740 00:43:27,480 --> 00:43:30,360 Speaker 1: was making some comments this weekend. He talked about what 741 00:43:30,440 --> 00:43:34,239 Speaker 1: he calls the sort of concierge media friends. I'm not 742 00:43:34,280 --> 00:43:36,640 Speaker 1: gonna name names, but we all know who they are. 743 00:43:36,920 --> 00:43:40,040 Speaker 1: And then he tried to make the case the journalism 744 00:43:40,080 --> 00:43:44,320 Speaker 1: of the mainstream media. Quote, I thought was outstanding this year. 745 00:43:44,520 --> 00:43:48,399 Speaker 1: And I'm thinking they missed everything about Donald Trump. They 746 00:43:48,440 --> 00:43:52,600 Speaker 1: missed his winning, They never they never covered wiki leaks, 747 00:43:52,640 --> 00:43:56,960 Speaker 1: they covered for Hillary Clinton. His own network was exposed 748 00:43:56,960 --> 00:43:59,920 Speaker 1: as colluding with the Clinton campaign. And he thinks they 749 00:44:00,000 --> 00:44:03,040 Speaker 1: did a terrific job and outstanding job this year. Well, 750 00:44:03,960 --> 00:44:06,480 Speaker 1: with all due respect to Chuck Todd, he is them. 751 00:44:06,800 --> 00:44:08,680 Speaker 1: That's true. Uh yeah, you know, and yes, I have 752 00:44:08,840 --> 00:44:11,440 Speaker 1: to side with that. These are people who are delusional. 753 00:44:11,760 --> 00:44:15,000 Speaker 1: Uh they are and and and Charlie Murray's book, which 754 00:44:15,040 --> 00:44:17,799 Speaker 1: you and I've talked about it before, coming apart, the 755 00:44:17,840 --> 00:44:20,640 Speaker 1: opening sections of that book describe exactly who they are. 756 00:44:20,680 --> 00:44:23,359 Speaker 1: There are people who live in an isolated world. Uh. 757 00:44:23,400 --> 00:44:27,720 Speaker 1: They honestly, sincerely believed that eliminating thirty three thousand emails 758 00:44:27,800 --> 00:44:30,520 Speaker 1: wasn't a big deal. They don't understand why that why 759 00:44:30,560 --> 00:44:32,600 Speaker 1: we made such a big fuss about her having a 760 00:44:32,680 --> 00:44:35,400 Speaker 1: private server. Uh. They think that are picking on the 761 00:44:35,400 --> 00:44:38,200 Speaker 1: Clinton Foundation is a sign that we're meetings. Uh, and 762 00:44:38,440 --> 00:44:41,240 Speaker 1: it doesn't occur to them, But raising money in seventy 763 00:44:41,239 --> 00:44:44,719 Speaker 1: five different meetings with Clinton donor's uh in the state 764 00:44:44,840 --> 00:44:46,880 Speaker 1: abovement might be inappropriate. I mean, just go down the 765 00:44:46,920 --> 00:44:49,319 Speaker 1: west that Chuck Todd is at the core of this. 766 00:44:49,600 --> 00:44:51,879 Speaker 1: And remember it's people like Chuck and I'm not trying 767 00:44:51,880 --> 00:44:53,600 Speaker 1: to pick a fight with him, although I thought part 768 00:44:53,640 --> 00:44:56,000 Speaker 1: of what he said son was appalling. But but it's 769 00:44:56,080 --> 00:44:58,439 Speaker 1: people who are at the center of the system who 770 00:44:58,480 --> 00:45:00,960 Speaker 1: then hire their successors. So if you go to a 771 00:45:00,960 --> 00:45:03,279 Speaker 1: place like NBC or CBS and you want to rise, 772 00:45:03,440 --> 00:45:05,640 Speaker 1: you better not walk in with a make American Great 773 00:45:05,680 --> 00:45:08,279 Speaker 1: Again hat on your head. Then ain't gonna you You're 774 00:45:08,400 --> 00:45:11,440 Speaker 1: gonna last two long weeks. Yeah, well, look at what's happening. 775 00:45:11,440 --> 00:45:13,440 Speaker 1: Little things have happened and big things have happened. We 776 00:45:13,480 --> 00:45:16,400 Speaker 1: know the Carrier deal, we know the deal about fifty 777 00:45:16,400 --> 00:45:19,800 Speaker 1: billion dollars being invested, and and what thirty million jobs 778 00:45:19,840 --> 00:45:22,799 Speaker 1: created that Trump has made. Other companies have pledged they're 779 00:45:22,800 --> 00:45:25,560 Speaker 1: going to keep their companies here in America. For just 780 00:45:26,480 --> 00:45:30,160 Speaker 1: canceled the seven hundred million dollar investment in Mexico for 781 00:45:30,200 --> 00:45:33,719 Speaker 1: their small small car applications and now they and by 782 00:45:33,719 --> 00:45:36,840 Speaker 1: the way, on that one, I tweeted a few minutes 783 00:45:36,920 --> 00:45:39,239 Speaker 1: later and we incid to see if any of the 784 00:45:39,320 --> 00:45:42,560 Speaker 1: Michigan Democrats will vote for the Trump program because remember 785 00:45:42,760 --> 00:45:44,799 Speaker 1: Ford announcers, they're going to keep the jobs in the 786 00:45:44,880 --> 00:45:48,920 Speaker 1: US because they believe in the tax and regulatory reforms 787 00:45:49,239 --> 00:45:51,480 Speaker 1: that Trump is talking about. Now, will any of the 788 00:45:51,520 --> 00:45:54,920 Speaker 1: Michigan Democrats who claimed their pro jobs any vote for 789 00:45:54,960 --> 00:45:57,839 Speaker 1: the Trump program? How could you possibly vote against it 790 00:45:58,160 --> 00:46:02,160 Speaker 1: when a state like Michigan needs those jobs desperately? And 791 00:46:02,200 --> 00:46:04,160 Speaker 1: how do I know? The last time I went to Michigan, 792 00:46:04,400 --> 00:46:07,440 Speaker 1: it looked like the aftermath of Katrina in New Orleans, 793 00:46:07,560 --> 00:46:11,960 Speaker 1: where block after block after block, neighborhood after neighborhood had 794 00:46:12,000 --> 00:46:16,799 Speaker 1: been abandoned. And they're talking about literally bulldozing entire neighborhoods 795 00:46:17,000 --> 00:46:21,200 Speaker 1: for consolidation of services. It's gotten so bad. Yeah, that's 796 00:46:21,320 --> 00:46:24,279 Speaker 1: that's why you know, this is a great crisis of 797 00:46:25,719 --> 00:46:28,240 Speaker 1: where we are. And and I think, and I'm writing 798 00:46:28,239 --> 00:46:31,320 Speaker 1: my newsletter today about this whole notion of whose table 799 00:46:31,320 --> 00:46:33,799 Speaker 1: are we negotiating it? I think that Trump has to 800 00:46:33,840 --> 00:46:36,840 Speaker 1: have his table of his ideas and then invite any 801 00:46:36,880 --> 00:46:39,880 Speaker 1: Democrats who's willing to work on these to join him 802 00:46:39,920 --> 00:46:43,040 Speaker 1: in the bipartisan effort. All right, former Speaker of the House, 803 00:46:43,120 --> 00:46:47,000 Speaker 1: New Gingrich, we will be uh with you tonight on Hannity. 804 00:46:47,400 --> 00:46:50,239 Speaker 1: Are Julian a Sans interviewers as well? I hope you'll 805 00:46:50,280 --> 00:46:52,640 Speaker 1: join us soon again here on the on the program. 806 00:46:52,800 --> 00:46:54,840 Speaker 1: First hundred days are going to be fascinating. Thank you, 807 00:46:54,880 --> 00:47:00,440 Speaker 1: sir one Shawn toll free telephone number. Is America ready 808 00:47:00,520 --> 00:47:04,359 Speaker 1: for the ratteted up cyber war? Or are we in 809 00:47:04,520 --> 00:47:08,520 Speaker 1: real trouble and really far behind? That's next with Bill Gertz. Gredibly, 810 00:47:08,719 --> 00:47:12,120 Speaker 1: some seem to believe that the US friendship means the 811 00:47:12,239 --> 00:47:16,040 Speaker 1: US must accept any policy regardless of our own interests, 812 00:47:16,160 --> 00:47:20,320 Speaker 1: our own positions, our own words, our own principles, even 813 00:47:20,400 --> 00:47:24,240 Speaker 1: after urging again and again that the policy must change. 814 00:47:24,760 --> 00:47:29,000 Speaker 1: Friends need to tell each other the hard truths, and 815 00:47:29,080 --> 00:47:35,000 Speaker 1: friendships require mutual respect. Israel's permanent representative to the United Nations, 816 00:47:35,040 --> 00:47:38,600 Speaker 1: who does not support a two state solution, said after 817 00:47:38,640 --> 00:47:41,960 Speaker 1: the vote last week, quote, it was to be expected 818 00:47:42,200 --> 00:47:45,400 Speaker 1: that Israel's greatest ally would act in accordance with the 819 00:47:45,480 --> 00:47:49,640 Speaker 1: values that we share and veto this resolution. I am 820 00:47:49,680 --> 00:47:53,880 Speaker 1: compelled to respond today that the United States did, in 821 00:47:54,040 --> 00:47:58,600 Speaker 1: fact vote in accordance with our values, just as previous 822 00:47:58,760 --> 00:48:02,600 Speaker 1: US administrations have done at the Security Council. Before us, 823 00:48:02,840 --> 00:48:06,360 Speaker 1: they failed to recognize that this friend, the United States 824 00:48:06,360 --> 00:48:09,040 Speaker 1: of America, that has done more to support Israel than 825 00:48:09,120 --> 00:48:13,080 Speaker 1: any other country, this friend that has blocked countless efforts 826 00:48:13,080 --> 00:48:16,760 Speaker 1: to delegitimize Israel, cannot be true to our own values 827 00:48:17,040 --> 00:48:20,480 Speaker 1: or even the stated democratic values of Israel. And we 828 00:48:20,560 --> 00:48:24,040 Speaker 1: cannot properly defend and protect Israel if we allow a 829 00:48:24,200 --> 00:48:27,960 Speaker 1: viable to state solution to be destroyed before our own eyes. 830 00:48:28,239 --> 00:48:32,440 Speaker 1: But now I must express my deep disappointment with the 831 00:48:32,480 --> 00:48:35,840 Speaker 1: speech today of John Kerry, a speech that was almost 832 00:48:35,880 --> 00:48:40,520 Speaker 1: as unbalanced as the anti Israel resolution passed the U 833 00:48:40,600 --> 00:48:44,560 Speaker 1: n last week. In a speech ostensibly about peace between 834 00:48:44,600 --> 00:48:49,000 Speaker 1: Israelis and Palestinians, Secretary Carry paid lip service to the 835 00:48:49,160 --> 00:48:52,239 Speaker 1: unremitting campaign of terrorism that has been waged by the 836 00:48:52,239 --> 00:48:56,000 Speaker 1: Palestinians against the Jewish state for nearly a century. What 837 00:48:56,120 --> 00:48:58,760 Speaker 1: he did was to spend most of this speech blaming 838 00:48:58,840 --> 00:49:02,160 Speaker 1: Israel for the lack of Pea by passionately condemning a 839 00:49:02,239 --> 00:49:06,239 Speaker 1: policy of enabling Jews to live in their historic homeland 840 00:49:06,480 --> 00:49:12,200 Speaker 1: and in their eternal capital, Jerusalem. Hundreds of suicide bombings, thousands, 841 00:49:12,239 --> 00:49:15,319 Speaker 1: tens of thousands of rockets, millions of Israelis, and bomb 842 00:49:15,400 --> 00:49:19,320 Speaker 1: shelters are not throwaway lines in a speech. They're The 843 00:49:19,320 --> 00:49:22,280 Speaker 1: reality is that the people of Israel had to endure 844 00:49:22,600 --> 00:49:26,359 Speaker 1: because of mistaken policies, policies that at the time won 845 00:49:26,480 --> 00:49:29,480 Speaker 1: the thunderous applause of the world. I don't seek applause. 846 00:49:29,680 --> 00:49:32,799 Speaker 1: I seek the security and peace, and prosperity and the 847 00:49:32,840 --> 00:49:35,680 Speaker 1: future of the Jewish State. The Jewish people have sought 848 00:49:35,719 --> 00:49:39,160 Speaker 1: their place under the sun for three thousand years, and 849 00:49:39,239 --> 00:49:43,799 Speaker 1: we're not about to be swayed by mistaken policies that 850 00:49:43,840 --> 00:49:48,160 Speaker 1: have caused great, great damage now till the top of 851 00:49:48,160 --> 00:49:52,600 Speaker 1: the hour. This, of course, the refusal of the Obama 852 00:49:52,640 --> 00:49:56,520 Speaker 1: administration to block a U and resolution condemning Israeli settlements 853 00:49:56,680 --> 00:50:00,440 Speaker 1: with US Ambassador Power voting to abstain and allowed measured 854 00:50:00,480 --> 00:50:03,160 Speaker 1: a past. Has also been some evidence that in fact 855 00:50:03,360 --> 00:50:06,720 Speaker 1: the administration was involved in this effort. You know, I guess. 856 00:50:06,760 --> 00:50:10,759 Speaker 1: Having been on the ground in Israel as I was 857 00:50:11,040 --> 00:50:13,640 Speaker 1: during the last conflict, I learned a lot. I was 858 00:50:13,840 --> 00:50:18,080 Speaker 1: on the the Gaza border by Sarote, where I actually 859 00:50:18,120 --> 00:50:20,600 Speaker 1: went to the police station in town, and there was 860 00:50:21,080 --> 00:50:24,200 Speaker 1: many of the ten thousand rockets that had been fired 861 00:50:24,200 --> 00:50:26,359 Speaker 1: in a seven to eight year period at that one 862 00:50:26,440 --> 00:50:30,520 Speaker 1: little town because of its proximity to Gaza. I saw 863 00:50:30,680 --> 00:50:36,000 Speaker 1: one of the many sophisticated tunnels that used Israeli provided 864 00:50:36,320 --> 00:50:41,920 Speaker 1: cement and Israeli provided electricity some fifty feet below the ground, 865 00:50:42,200 --> 00:50:45,319 Speaker 1: so that these tunnels were dug right into Israel and 866 00:50:45,360 --> 00:50:49,120 Speaker 1: where kidnappings and murders were taking place on a regular basis. 867 00:50:49,280 --> 00:50:51,680 Speaker 1: I was out with the i DF, I talked to them. 868 00:50:51,680 --> 00:50:54,040 Speaker 1: I saw what they had to deal with every single day. 869 00:50:54,440 --> 00:50:57,840 Speaker 1: I was at a location where the night before UH 870 00:50:58,000 --> 00:51:01,839 Speaker 1: multiple Scud missiles had been fired at this particular town, 871 00:51:01,880 --> 00:51:04,440 Speaker 1: and I saw the carnage, and I saw the the 872 00:51:04,520 --> 00:51:07,680 Speaker 1: aftermath of of that having all taken place. So does 873 00:51:07,719 --> 00:51:10,800 Speaker 1: the country like Israel only democracy in the region deserve 874 00:51:10,920 --> 00:51:14,200 Speaker 1: better than Obama lecturing them in two thousand and nine 875 00:51:14,239 --> 00:51:18,160 Speaker 1: that America doesn't accept the legitimacy of Israel's settlements on 876 00:51:18,239 --> 00:51:21,319 Speaker 1: israel land, or that the Prime Minister when when the 877 00:51:21,400 --> 00:51:25,399 Speaker 1: President actually left him sitting in the White House and 878 00:51:25,560 --> 00:51:27,760 Speaker 1: the Prime Minister then had to leave through a side 879 00:51:27,760 --> 00:51:30,560 Speaker 1: door after a chili White House meeting with Obama that was, 880 00:51:31,480 --> 00:51:35,040 Speaker 1: Or the demands that Israel negotiate with the Palestinian authority 881 00:51:35,080 --> 00:51:38,080 Speaker 1: that is governed by Hamas, which our own State Department 882 00:51:38,120 --> 00:51:42,040 Speaker 1: recognizes as a terrorist organization in Fatah, and with the 883 00:51:42,080 --> 00:51:46,240 Speaker 1: subject being pre nineteen sixty seven borderlines, something ed catch 884 00:51:46,320 --> 00:51:49,080 Speaker 1: at the time called throwing Israel under the bus by 885 00:51:49,120 --> 00:51:52,280 Speaker 1: Obama or Chuck Hagel, who was a pretty strong critic 886 00:51:52,320 --> 00:51:56,240 Speaker 1: of Israel's Defense secretary being appointed, or the Pentagon leaking 887 00:51:56,280 --> 00:52:00,560 Speaker 1: information that Israel attack Damascus in Syria. Are you to 888 00:52:00,600 --> 00:52:04,600 Speaker 1: stop a shipment of weapons to terrorist organizations? Obama officials 889 00:52:04,600 --> 00:52:08,000 Speaker 1: then refused to apologize for the League because it endangered 890 00:52:08,040 --> 00:52:10,080 Speaker 1: American lives. And it goes on from there, And I 891 00:52:10,080 --> 00:52:12,200 Speaker 1: can give you many more instances over the last eight 892 00:52:12,280 --> 00:52:15,920 Speaker 1: years of the deteriorating relationship with the only democracy in 893 00:52:15,960 --> 00:52:18,120 Speaker 1: the region that has also been a good friend to 894 00:52:18,120 --> 00:52:21,239 Speaker 1: the United States. Now, Pat Buchanan has a pretty controversial 895 00:52:21,600 --> 00:52:25,040 Speaker 1: column out about it Israel First or America First, and 896 00:52:25,080 --> 00:52:27,400 Speaker 1: he said Donald Trump has a new best friend. President 897 00:52:27,400 --> 00:52:29,400 Speaker 1: Elect Trump, thank you for your warm friendship and your 898 00:52:29,440 --> 00:52:32,160 Speaker 1: clear cut support of Israel Gush, bb net and Yahoo, 899 00:52:32,200 --> 00:52:34,759 Speaker 1: after he berated John Kerry in a fashion that would 900 00:52:34,800 --> 00:52:38,640 Speaker 1: once have resulted in a rupture of diplomatic relations. Mr Buchanan, 901 00:52:38,640 --> 00:52:42,359 Speaker 1: how are you during fine sean? Happy New Year, my friend. Well, 902 00:52:42,440 --> 00:52:44,560 Speaker 1: happy New Year, and I think you'll agree with me. 903 00:52:44,680 --> 00:52:47,840 Speaker 1: This is going to be a very, very tough battle 904 00:52:48,000 --> 00:52:50,520 Speaker 1: this year to get America back on track. Well, I 905 00:52:50,560 --> 00:52:53,000 Speaker 1: agree with you, and it's it's very um It is 906 00:52:53,040 --> 00:52:56,360 Speaker 1: a news filled the year already. Something seems to be 907 00:52:56,400 --> 00:52:59,400 Speaker 1: happening every day. I can't recall a transition. It was 908 00:52:59,480 --> 00:53:02,760 Speaker 1: quite just arresting and exciting. Shown a lot of things 909 00:53:02,760 --> 00:53:05,640 Speaker 1: happen every day. Funny. I mean, look at Ford. Ford 910 00:53:05,719 --> 00:53:08,800 Speaker 1: now has made a decision they're going to relocate jobs 911 00:53:08,800 --> 00:53:12,080 Speaker 1: to Michigan. They canceled the Mexico plants, and you know, 912 00:53:12,160 --> 00:53:15,520 Speaker 1: one announcement after another that with the business incentives and 913 00:53:15,560 --> 00:53:18,120 Speaker 1: corporate incentives and new tax policies and the end of 914 00:53:18,120 --> 00:53:21,400 Speaker 1: a lot of burdensome regulation, companies now seem incentivized to 915 00:53:21,400 --> 00:53:24,000 Speaker 1: want to stay here. I think they do. And the 916 00:53:24,040 --> 00:53:27,960 Speaker 1: anecdotal evidence Carrier and Ford and these others that where 917 00:53:27,960 --> 00:53:31,400 Speaker 1: Trump has sort of intervened personally and been successful, I 918 00:53:31,480 --> 00:53:33,799 Speaker 1: think are excellent. But in the longer run, and I 919 00:53:33,840 --> 00:53:37,120 Speaker 1: think the President elect realizes shown in order to get 920 00:53:37,200 --> 00:53:39,960 Speaker 1: rid of a five hundred billion dollar trade deficit, you're 921 00:53:39,960 --> 00:53:42,600 Speaker 1: going to have to raise the price of imports coming 922 00:53:42,680 --> 00:53:46,120 Speaker 1: into the country and reduce the price of goods made 923 00:53:46,320 --> 00:53:49,600 Speaker 1: and produced in the United States here. And I think 924 00:53:49,640 --> 00:53:51,719 Speaker 1: he's going to have a program. He's got a couple 925 00:53:51,760 --> 00:53:54,600 Speaker 1: of folks in there that understand this, and I think 926 00:53:54,640 --> 00:53:56,120 Speaker 1: if he works with the Hill, he's going to have 927 00:53:56,160 --> 00:53:58,719 Speaker 1: some resistance with the free traders up there, But I 928 00:53:58,719 --> 00:54:02,000 Speaker 1: think it can be done. But the process really of years, Sean, 929 00:54:02,360 --> 00:54:07,120 Speaker 1: and not just anecdotes, although these anecdotes are certainly welcome. Well, listen, 930 00:54:07,200 --> 00:54:09,719 Speaker 1: I I've got to tell I don't even think a 931 00:54:09,760 --> 00:54:12,279 Speaker 1: trade war is ever gonna happen. One thing I've learned 932 00:54:12,280 --> 00:54:15,400 Speaker 1: about interviewing Donald Trump over the many years, everything he 933 00:54:15,480 --> 00:54:18,279 Speaker 1: says and does is far more calculated than I think 934 00:54:18,320 --> 00:54:21,000 Speaker 1: people give him credit for. And I think everything is 935 00:54:21,080 --> 00:54:23,400 Speaker 1: a negotiation. And the fact that a president of the 936 00:54:23,480 --> 00:54:27,279 Speaker 1: United States is calling particular companies I'll use Carrier as 937 00:54:27,320 --> 00:54:30,560 Speaker 1: one example for it is another example and saying this 938 00:54:30,640 --> 00:54:33,000 Speaker 1: is what the business climate is going to be like 939 00:54:33,280 --> 00:54:35,799 Speaker 1: I you have an open door to me if there 940 00:54:35,840 --> 00:54:39,680 Speaker 1: are burdensome regulations that are hurting your business and job creation. 941 00:54:39,880 --> 00:54:42,080 Speaker 1: I mean, I just think that goes a long way 942 00:54:42,120 --> 00:54:45,200 Speaker 1: to incentivizing companies to stay here. And as it relates 943 00:54:45,239 --> 00:54:47,160 Speaker 1: to other countries, if they want to put up trade 944 00:54:47,200 --> 00:54:51,040 Speaker 1: obstacles to the United States, like at excise tax or 945 00:54:51,200 --> 00:54:55,080 Speaker 1: ort tax on American goods, well I think those deals 946 00:54:55,080 --> 00:54:57,920 Speaker 1: are going to be renegotiated fairly quickly, or these countries 947 00:54:57,960 --> 00:55:00,640 Speaker 1: will realize they're going to be hurt themselves because of 948 00:55:00,680 --> 00:55:03,200 Speaker 1: their own actions. Well, let me disagree here a bit. 949 00:55:03,360 --> 00:55:05,400 Speaker 1: I think a trade war has been waged against the 950 00:55:05,480 --> 00:55:08,319 Speaker 1: United States and we have not fought it. And that's 951 00:55:08,360 --> 00:55:12,160 Speaker 1: the reason why we lost fifty five thousand factories in 952 00:55:12,200 --> 00:55:16,320 Speaker 1: the first decade of this century and six million manufacturing jobs. 953 00:55:16,560 --> 00:55:19,480 Speaker 1: That's why we run a twelve trillion dollars in trade 954 00:55:19,560 --> 00:55:23,279 Speaker 1: deficits in the last twenty five years, four trillion of 955 00:55:23,320 --> 00:55:26,799 Speaker 1: that with communist China. It's why places like Detroit and 956 00:55:26,920 --> 00:55:30,759 Speaker 1: Baltimore and inner cities in America look like what they do, 957 00:55:30,920 --> 00:55:33,960 Speaker 1: Whereas we've seen China, backward place when I was there 958 00:55:33,960 --> 00:55:37,760 Speaker 1: with Nixon in seventy two, suddenly become the greatest manufacturing 959 00:55:37,840 --> 00:55:40,960 Speaker 1: power on Earth from a totally backward state. We've had 960 00:55:40,960 --> 00:55:45,359 Speaker 1: our clocks cleaned for decades because of the free trade ideology, 961 00:55:45,480 --> 00:55:48,160 Speaker 1: which has had that both parties in its grip, and 962 00:55:48,239 --> 00:55:51,239 Speaker 1: presidents of both parties have pursued and I do think 963 00:55:51,360 --> 00:55:54,880 Speaker 1: Donald Trump recognizes this. But what I'm saying is, if 964 00:55:54,880 --> 00:55:57,880 Speaker 1: we're going to undo the consequences of the trade wars 965 00:55:57,960 --> 00:56:01,879 Speaker 1: conducted against us, well, we played neutrals and we're run over. 966 00:56:02,080 --> 00:56:05,920 Speaker 1: It's going to take policies besides the Trump getting folks 967 00:56:05,920 --> 00:56:08,400 Speaker 1: on the phone. Well, I think I totally agree with you, 968 00:56:08,440 --> 00:56:11,040 Speaker 1: but I also think that the threat is real. I mean, 969 00:56:11,320 --> 00:56:13,640 Speaker 1: if you read the art of the deal, which I suggest, 970 00:56:13,680 --> 00:56:15,440 Speaker 1: if you want to get into the mind of Donald 971 00:56:15,440 --> 00:56:18,520 Speaker 1: Trump negotiating his attitude as you walk away from any 972 00:56:18,560 --> 00:56:20,560 Speaker 1: deal up to the last second before you sign it. 973 00:56:20,600 --> 00:56:22,439 Speaker 1: And I think he's not going to negotiate a trade 974 00:56:22,480 --> 00:56:24,600 Speaker 1: deal that is one sided with I don't care if 975 00:56:24,640 --> 00:56:27,759 Speaker 1: it's renegotiating NAFTA, which the Mexican President said he's open 976 00:56:27,760 --> 00:56:29,520 Speaker 1: and willing to do, or if it's a trade deal 977 00:56:29,560 --> 00:56:31,600 Speaker 1: with Japan or a trade deal with China. I think 978 00:56:31,640 --> 00:56:34,840 Speaker 1: it's gonna be beneficials to both sides. Free and fair 979 00:56:34,880 --> 00:56:37,680 Speaker 1: trade seems to be what he's saying in communicating, and 980 00:56:37,719 --> 00:56:40,960 Speaker 1: then it becomes an issue for these other countries if 981 00:56:40,960 --> 00:56:43,160 Speaker 1: they're willing to work in an environment where things are 982 00:56:43,200 --> 00:56:46,160 Speaker 1: fair for everyone everybody. Here's my view. I'm a Hamiltonian. 983 00:56:46,400 --> 00:56:49,279 Speaker 1: He believed that trade was a means to an end. 984 00:56:49,320 --> 00:56:51,680 Speaker 1: It's not an end in itself, and he said a 985 00:56:51,760 --> 00:56:55,320 Speaker 1: US trade policy should concern itself from it with making 986 00:56:55,360 --> 00:56:59,799 Speaker 1: America sovereign and independent in its defense and its weaponry, 987 00:57:00,000 --> 00:57:03,520 Speaker 1: and its habitation and its feed to feed and clothe itself. 988 00:57:03,520 --> 00:57:07,160 Speaker 1: In other words, to make America the totally independent country 989 00:57:07,239 --> 00:57:09,680 Speaker 1: we work. Showing at the beginning of World War One 990 00:57:09,719 --> 00:57:11,840 Speaker 1: and the beginning of World War Two, where the United 991 00:57:11,880 --> 00:57:14,160 Speaker 1: States could say, look we might not want to get 992 00:57:14,200 --> 00:57:16,440 Speaker 1: in this war at all, and we've got no problem 993 00:57:16,480 --> 00:57:20,600 Speaker 1: staying out completely because we're not dependent on anyone for anything. 994 00:57:20,800 --> 00:57:24,640 Speaker 1: That's what you want, economic independence to support your your 995 00:57:24,680 --> 00:57:27,680 Speaker 1: political independence. And the idea that you know this is 996 00:57:27,720 --> 00:57:30,760 Speaker 1: like we're to work, we're trading down at the mall. 997 00:57:31,080 --> 00:57:34,560 Speaker 1: I think loses the concept of what international trade is 998 00:57:34,600 --> 00:57:37,080 Speaker 1: all about. As opposed to trade with me going down 999 00:57:37,120 --> 00:57:40,440 Speaker 1: to you know, mcclaim hardware store. I'm not talking about that. 1000 00:57:40,600 --> 00:57:43,400 Speaker 1: What I'm saying is trade can be beneficial to many people. 1001 00:57:43,400 --> 00:57:46,400 Speaker 1: In other words, American companies can have access to other 1002 00:57:46,440 --> 00:57:50,160 Speaker 1: global markets. Uh, if in fact it's free and fair, 1003 00:57:50,480 --> 00:57:52,439 Speaker 1: if it's not going to be free, If if it's 1004 00:57:52,440 --> 00:57:54,440 Speaker 1: not going to be free and fair, I think Donald 1005 00:57:54,440 --> 00:57:57,120 Speaker 1: Trump has been pretty clear what that would mean for 1006 00:57:57,240 --> 00:58:00,680 Speaker 1: those individual countries. My guess is that the countries are 1007 00:58:00,760 --> 00:58:04,120 Speaker 1: highly dependent on having access to our markets, and the 1008 00:58:04,160 --> 00:58:06,480 Speaker 1: adjustments will be made to make it fair. Well, they've 1009 00:58:06,520 --> 00:58:08,560 Speaker 1: got to have access to our market. It's a what's 1010 00:58:08,560 --> 00:58:12,120 Speaker 1: its seventeen eighteen trillion dollar market, the greatest market on earth. 1011 00:58:12,520 --> 00:58:15,720 Speaker 1: If your auto companies don't have access to the American market, 1012 00:58:16,040 --> 00:58:20,200 Speaker 1: they almost cannot be world class auto companies. But there 1013 00:58:20,280 --> 00:58:24,000 Speaker 1: is a difference here. Exports that produced goods manufacturing in 1014 00:58:24,040 --> 00:58:27,160 Speaker 1: the United States add to the gross national product of 1015 00:58:27,200 --> 00:58:30,640 Speaker 1: the United States, and imports that produced goods. De try 1016 00:58:30,760 --> 00:58:34,200 Speaker 1: diminish a subtract from the gross national product of the 1017 00:58:34,280 --> 00:58:37,600 Speaker 1: United States. Now, let's take a Let's take Alexus Car, 1018 00:58:37,640 --> 00:58:42,080 Speaker 1: which is a fine automobile. If you buy Alexus car straight, say, 1019 00:58:42,120 --> 00:58:44,560 Speaker 1: all its parts and coming off the boat in uh, 1020 00:58:45,000 --> 00:58:48,040 Speaker 1: you know, San Diego or wherever, that is enormous gain 1021 00:58:48,120 --> 00:58:50,160 Speaker 1: for Japan. But if you put a tariff, say of 1022 00:58:51,160 --> 00:58:54,680 Speaker 1: and the Japanese decide a look, that will force the 1023 00:58:54,760 --> 00:58:57,680 Speaker 1: price of our Lexus beyond the Cadillac and will lose 1024 00:58:57,720 --> 00:59:01,200 Speaker 1: sales if they then move their factory to the United 1025 00:59:01,240 --> 00:59:04,360 Speaker 1: States of America. Amen, brother, I'm all with you. I'm 1026 00:59:04,400 --> 00:59:06,480 Speaker 1: all with you too. I mean, I thought this was 1027 00:59:06,520 --> 00:59:10,600 Speaker 1: pretty interesting. The seven d million dollar investment that the 1028 00:59:10,640 --> 00:59:14,400 Speaker 1: Ford Motor Company was gonna make with Mexico and build 1029 00:59:14,440 --> 00:59:17,360 Speaker 1: their plant down there. Well, now they're building it here 1030 00:59:17,360 --> 00:59:19,280 Speaker 1: in America. They are, But let me tell you why 1031 00:59:19,320 --> 00:59:21,800 Speaker 1: they make that decision. A lot of these guys, it's 1032 00:59:21,840 --> 00:59:25,360 Speaker 1: not that they're anti patriotic. If you're sitting up there 1033 00:59:25,560 --> 00:59:28,720 Speaker 1: and you're an executive, and you say, look, Ford or 1034 00:59:28,840 --> 00:59:32,080 Speaker 1: the Cadillac Company or General Motors is making its cars 1035 00:59:32,120 --> 00:59:35,000 Speaker 1: down in Mexico, paying the guys six bucks an hour 1036 00:59:35,120 --> 00:59:37,880 Speaker 1: down there. It doesn't have a pension problems, doesn't have 1037 00:59:37,920 --> 00:59:40,680 Speaker 1: the social security. They can make them cheaper down there, 1038 00:59:40,720 --> 00:59:42,400 Speaker 1: and if we want to compete, we're gonna have to 1039 00:59:42,400 --> 00:59:45,120 Speaker 1: build them down there more cheaply and then bring them 1040 00:59:45,120 --> 00:59:48,120 Speaker 1: into the United States free of charge and sell them here. 1041 00:59:48,480 --> 00:59:52,080 Speaker 1: It makes economic sense to move your production to Asia 1042 00:59:52,120 --> 00:59:54,640 Speaker 1: and Mexico, just like it did to move it out 1043 00:59:54,640 --> 00:59:56,960 Speaker 1: of New York and Connecticut down to the Sun Belt 1044 00:59:57,320 --> 00:59:59,840 Speaker 1: when those folks weren't making as much money down there 1045 01:00:00,600 --> 01:00:03,040 Speaker 1: per capita as they're making in the North. So you've 1046 01:00:03,080 --> 01:00:07,200 Speaker 1: got to adjust the incentives for production so that people 1047 01:00:07,360 --> 01:00:10,680 Speaker 1: who make decisions will say, we've got to produce inside 1048 01:00:10,720 --> 01:00:14,920 Speaker 1: the United States. I think most Americans are now understanding 1049 01:00:14,960 --> 01:00:18,680 Speaker 1: the globalism has hurt our economy. The economic statistics, and 1050 01:00:18,680 --> 01:00:21,840 Speaker 1: I have a whole page of them, additional ones more 1051 01:00:21,880 --> 01:00:24,120 Speaker 1: than I have used in the last year or so. 1052 01:00:24,440 --> 01:00:27,560 Speaker 1: They all speak for themselves. And that includes the trade deficit, 1053 01:00:27,640 --> 01:00:30,080 Speaker 1: that includes the deficit in general, the debt that we 1054 01:00:30,160 --> 01:00:33,320 Speaker 1: have accumulated, all of which is has not been good 1055 01:00:33,320 --> 01:00:37,400 Speaker 1: for American workers, million Americans out of the labor force. 1056 01:00:37,600 --> 01:00:41,480 Speaker 1: So if Donald Trump can incentivize these companies by offering 1057 01:00:41,520 --> 01:00:46,320 Speaker 1: a lower corporate tax rate, incentivize multinational corporations to repatriate 1058 01:00:46,360 --> 01:00:50,520 Speaker 1: trillions and invest here, and also incentivized companies by getting 1059 01:00:50,600 --> 01:00:54,040 Speaker 1: rid of the bureaucratic red tape and regulations, that's just 1060 01:00:54,080 --> 01:00:56,439 Speaker 1: good for the American worker. Right. Well, if they put 1061 01:00:56,480 --> 01:00:58,600 Speaker 1: in there, you've got three or four of the of 1062 01:00:58,640 --> 01:01:02,440 Speaker 1: the five key item right there, Sean. The one thing 1063 01:01:02,480 --> 01:01:05,480 Speaker 1: you're gonna need is you're gonna need a border tax 1064 01:01:05,480 --> 01:01:07,600 Speaker 1: of some kind. You can call it a term or 1065 01:01:07,640 --> 01:01:10,080 Speaker 1: a vat or whatever, but what it says in effect 1066 01:01:10,200 --> 01:01:12,720 Speaker 1: is sure, you're free to leave the United States and 1067 01:01:12,800 --> 01:01:15,760 Speaker 1: produced down in Mexico, but when those forwards come down, 1068 01:01:15,800 --> 01:01:18,240 Speaker 1: those big trailer trucks, you're gonna pay a tax to 1069 01:01:18,240 --> 01:01:20,520 Speaker 1: get them back into the United States that is not 1070 01:01:20,640 --> 01:01:24,360 Speaker 1: paid by four cars that are built in the United States. 1071 01:01:24,600 --> 01:01:27,800 Speaker 1: Al Right, I gotta run, Patrick J. Buchanan happy. I'm 1072 01:01:27,840 --> 01:01:29,440 Speaker 1: sure we'll have you on often. This is going to 1073 01:01:29,520 --> 01:01:32,160 Speaker 1: be a very very tough year politically, There's gonna be 1074 01:01:32,200 --> 01:01:34,760 Speaker 1: a lot of fighting from day one. Very exciting year, Sean, 1075 01:01:34,920 --> 01:01:37,320 Speaker 1: this is the eating season ahead, this is the day. 1076 01:01:37,400 --> 01:01:39,440 Speaker 1: This is the season where we can save the country. 1077 01:01:39,480 --> 01:01:42,000 Speaker 1: That's what I'm hoping for. Well, I agree, I'm very 1078 01:01:42,000 --> 01:01:45,320 Speaker 1: hopeful for having a long time So am I all right? 1079 01:01:45,400 --> 01:01:48,000 Speaker 1: Pap bu Cannon? Can you say to the American people 1080 01:01:48,840 --> 01:01:53,400 Speaker 1: unequivocally that you did not get this information about the 1081 01:01:53,480 --> 01:01:56,560 Speaker 1: d n C John Podesta's emails? Can you tell the 1082 01:01:56,600 --> 01:01:59,120 Speaker 1: American people a thousand percent you did not get it 1083 01:01:59,160 --> 01:02:04,040 Speaker 1: from Russia? Everybody associated with Russia, we can say, we 1084 01:02:04,160 --> 01:02:08,920 Speaker 1: have said repeatedly over the last two months that our 1085 01:02:09,080 --> 01:02:13,160 Speaker 1: source is not the Russian government and it is not 1086 01:02:13,480 --> 01:02:17,240 Speaker 1: state party. The US government is accusing Wiki Leaks of 1087 01:02:17,320 --> 01:02:21,120 Speaker 1: having received these materials from Russia, and you say it's false, 1088 01:02:21,520 --> 01:02:24,600 Speaker 1: it did not come from Russia. And the President of 1089 01:02:24,640 --> 01:02:27,560 Speaker 1: the United States is advancing the narrative. Is the President 1090 01:02:27,560 --> 01:02:31,240 Speaker 1: of the United States lying to the American people? Well, 1091 01:02:31,320 --> 01:02:34,080 Speaker 1: he's acting like a lawyer. If you look at most 1092 01:02:34,080 --> 01:02:37,439 Speaker 1: of his statements, he doesn't say that. He doesn't say 1093 01:02:38,480 --> 01:02:43,280 Speaker 1: Wiki Leaks obtained its information from Russia, worked with Russia 1094 01:02:44,040 --> 01:02:48,080 Speaker 1: just trying to influence the elections. So he and you 1095 01:02:48,160 --> 01:02:53,320 Speaker 1: also note that he doesn't say, Ah, I from statements 1096 01:02:53,320 --> 01:02:57,479 Speaker 1: that I've read, he doesn't say that Russia was trying 1097 01:02:57,560 --> 01:03:03,120 Speaker 1: to influence the election for Donald Trump. Our publications, uh 1098 01:03:03,440 --> 01:03:08,440 Speaker 1: had wide uptake by the American people. They're all true. Um, 1099 01:03:08,440 --> 01:03:12,040 Speaker 1: but that's not the allegation that is being presented by 1100 01:03:12,120 --> 01:03:18,240 Speaker 1: the Obama White House. So why is such a dramatic response. Well, 1101 01:03:18,440 --> 01:03:22,280 Speaker 1: the reason it's obvious they're trying to de legitimize Trump 1102 01:03:22,320 --> 01:03:25,000 Speaker 1: administration as it goes into the White House. They're going 1103 01:03:25,040 --> 01:03:29,760 Speaker 1: to try they are trying to say that uh President 1104 01:03:29,880 --> 01:03:35,440 Speaker 1: elect Trump uh is not a legitimate US all right. 1105 01:03:35,480 --> 01:03:38,240 Speaker 1: That was part of my interview that took place in 1106 01:03:38,360 --> 01:03:43,320 Speaker 1: London yesterday with Julian Assange in the Ecuadorian embassy where 1107 01:03:43,320 --> 01:03:45,959 Speaker 1: I was at and all of that interview a full 1108 01:03:45,960 --> 01:03:49,760 Speaker 1: hour will air tonight ten Eastern on the Fox News Channel. Uh. 1109 01:03:49,800 --> 01:03:53,360 Speaker 1: We have many many foreign policy challenges that Donald Trump 1110 01:03:53,400 --> 01:03:57,520 Speaker 1: will face. We have we do have cybersecurity issues that 1111 01:03:57,800 --> 01:04:00,600 Speaker 1: clearly have not been dealt with in the last eight years, 1112 01:04:01,240 --> 01:04:03,200 Speaker 1: and that has that's got to be at the top 1113 01:04:03,240 --> 01:04:07,280 Speaker 1: of the list. We have strained relations with Israel. They've 1114 01:04:07,320 --> 01:04:12,200 Speaker 1: never been this bad, culminating in that U N vote 1115 01:04:12,200 --> 01:04:15,600 Speaker 1: that took place where the United States should have vetoed 1116 01:04:15,680 --> 01:04:18,440 Speaker 1: it and did not. That's all part of a series 1117 01:04:18,480 --> 01:04:21,440 Speaker 1: over the last eight years where Obama has stabbed Israel, 1118 01:04:21,480 --> 01:04:24,280 Speaker 1: our closest ally in the back and the back then 1119 01:04:24,280 --> 01:04:27,160 Speaker 1: of course the aftermath with the emergence of ices because 1120 01:04:27,160 --> 01:04:30,560 Speaker 1: the President pulled out of Iraq too early, and Isis 1121 01:04:30,600 --> 01:04:33,360 Speaker 1: now has gone worldwide and ISSUS has access to all 1122 01:04:33,360 --> 01:04:37,400 Speaker 1: the oil interact to fund their terror activities. We haven't 1123 01:04:37,400 --> 01:04:39,560 Speaker 1: even begun to talk about what's going to happen with 1124 01:04:39,600 --> 01:04:42,760 Speaker 1: the relationship with Russia, you know, for political purposes. Now 1125 01:04:42,800 --> 01:04:46,439 Speaker 1: the President is throwing out thirty five diplomats. Donald Trump 1126 01:04:46,480 --> 01:04:49,360 Speaker 1: will have to clean up that mess. Relations with China 1127 01:04:49,640 --> 01:04:53,840 Speaker 1: seem almost non existent, North Korea seemingly non existent, and 1128 01:04:53,880 --> 01:04:56,480 Speaker 1: of course North Africa, Libya and the rest of the globe, 1129 01:04:56,480 --> 01:04:59,560 Speaker 1: the Middle East in general. Things frankly couldn't really be 1130 01:05:00,000 --> 01:05:03,880 Speaker 1: any worse anyway. He's been an expert in foreign policy 1131 01:05:04,080 --> 01:05:06,960 Speaker 1: and for a long long time and one of the 1132 01:05:07,240 --> 01:05:09,600 Speaker 1: one of my favorite writers and authors. He wrote the 1133 01:05:09,640 --> 01:05:13,360 Speaker 1: brand new book It's called I war, and it's war 1134 01:05:13,440 --> 01:05:16,960 Speaker 1: in peace in the information age. His name is Bill Gertz, 1135 01:05:17,400 --> 01:05:19,360 Speaker 1: and he's a New York Times bestselling author. Who A 1136 01:05:19,360 --> 01:05:21,040 Speaker 1: you're writing for now? I know I never know where 1137 01:05:21,080 --> 01:05:23,720 Speaker 1: you're writing. I'm very busy. I write for the Washington 1138 01:05:23,720 --> 01:05:26,320 Speaker 1: Free Beacon and the Washington Times, and you always send 1139 01:05:26,320 --> 01:05:28,120 Speaker 1: me your directly, so I don't know where I'm getting 1140 01:05:28,160 --> 01:05:30,000 Speaker 1: it from. I'm just getting it from Bill Girtts, who've 1141 01:05:30,000 --> 01:05:32,680 Speaker 1: known for many, many years and have great respect for. Uh. 1142 01:05:32,800 --> 01:05:38,160 Speaker 1: Let's start with Julian Assange. Let's start with he is 1143 01:05:38,360 --> 01:05:41,680 Speaker 1: adamant he did not get this from Russia. But that 1144 01:05:41,800 --> 01:05:45,440 Speaker 1: narrative keeps getting advanced. Well, I think we're gonna have 1145 01:05:45,520 --> 01:05:48,640 Speaker 1: to wait to see what the administration's investigation of the 1146 01:05:48,680 --> 01:05:53,320 Speaker 1: Russian influence operation is. Uh Any I've been covering intelligence 1147 01:05:53,320 --> 01:05:57,960 Speaker 1: for decades. Any good intelligence service worth its salt is 1148 01:05:58,040 --> 01:06:00,720 Speaker 1: not going to leave any fingerprints when it does an 1149 01:06:00,760 --> 01:06:05,680 Speaker 1: operation like was done with the hacking activities. But so 1150 01:06:05,720 --> 01:06:08,720 Speaker 1: when you read the FBI and the DHS nineteen page 1151 01:06:08,800 --> 01:06:11,560 Speaker 1: report that or the thirteen page report, and I asked 1152 01:06:11,640 --> 01:06:14,960 Speaker 1: Julian Assange about this, they don't directly tie it to Russia, 1153 01:06:15,280 --> 01:06:18,520 Speaker 1: but the president makes the comments so that everybody will 1154 01:06:18,560 --> 01:06:22,000 Speaker 1: conclude it was Russia. Yeah, and they didn't identify the 1155 01:06:22,120 --> 01:06:25,280 Speaker 1: names of the intelligence services like they did on background 1156 01:06:25,360 --> 01:06:28,520 Speaker 1: for reporters, which was the military g r U and 1157 01:06:28,600 --> 01:06:33,240 Speaker 1: the Federal Security Service FSP. That said, uh, I can 1158 01:06:33,240 --> 01:06:36,800 Speaker 1: tell you behind the scenes is the National Security Agency 1159 01:06:36,880 --> 01:06:39,560 Speaker 1: and they are really really good, and they're not going 1160 01:06:39,600 --> 01:06:42,919 Speaker 1: to reveal how they know what they know. But would 1161 01:06:42,920 --> 01:06:45,640 Speaker 1: that mean that James Clapper, who is one of the 1162 01:06:45,720 --> 01:06:49,240 Speaker 1: few that cast doubt on the whole Russian hacking theory, 1163 01:06:49,880 --> 01:06:52,240 Speaker 1: he has access to all of this information as the 1164 01:06:52,280 --> 01:06:56,240 Speaker 1: Director of National Intelligence. Correct, he does. But Clapper is, 1165 01:06:56,800 --> 01:07:00,000 Speaker 1: you know, kind of a intelligence zar. He's not really 1166 01:07:00,120 --> 01:07:01,760 Speaker 1: into the day to day thing, you know. I mean, 1167 01:07:01,760 --> 01:07:04,440 Speaker 1: he's the guy that came out and said the Muslim 1168 01:07:04,440 --> 01:07:07,959 Speaker 1: Brotherhood was a secular organization. I mean that's insane. Yeah, 1169 01:07:08,000 --> 01:07:10,120 Speaker 1: he's you know, I mean, he's he's on the on 1170 01:07:10,160 --> 01:07:12,080 Speaker 1: the way up. But I can't tell you that n 1171 01:07:12,120 --> 01:07:14,480 Speaker 1: s A is very good. How good are they in 1172 01:07:14,600 --> 01:07:17,280 Speaker 1: I war I talk about this, they're so good that 1173 01:07:17,320 --> 01:07:20,880 Speaker 1: they can break into foreign intelligence services and steal the 1174 01:07:20,920 --> 01:07:24,560 Speaker 1: information that they're getting from their spies. That's how good 1175 01:07:24,560 --> 01:07:28,000 Speaker 1: they are. Julian Assange on this radio program, and he 1176 01:07:28,080 --> 01:07:31,160 Speaker 1: I think he regretted saying it, but he acknowledged to 1177 01:07:31,240 --> 01:07:33,560 Speaker 1: me in an interview that I had here that when 1178 01:07:33,600 --> 01:07:36,320 Speaker 1: he was sixteen, he broke into and hacked into NASA, 1179 01:07:36,680 --> 01:07:38,960 Speaker 1: he hacked into our defense department, and I forget one 1180 01:07:38,960 --> 01:07:41,400 Speaker 1: other agency. I don't remember which one. But if you're 1181 01:07:41,480 --> 01:07:44,160 Speaker 1: sixteen years old, I don't care how smart you are, 1182 01:07:44,280 --> 01:07:47,160 Speaker 1: how computer literate you are, versus me not being able 1183 01:07:47,200 --> 01:07:51,360 Speaker 1: to download an app um, it means that it's very vulnerable. 1184 01:07:51,520 --> 01:07:54,640 Speaker 1: If a sixteen year old kid can break into our systems, 1185 01:07:55,200 --> 01:07:58,240 Speaker 1: America is extremely vulnerable. And I think that's the bottom 1186 01:07:58,280 --> 01:08:01,080 Speaker 1: line of this book. I wore that we're getting killed 1187 01:08:01,120 --> 01:08:04,800 Speaker 1: in the information space. And I define information warfare in 1188 01:08:04,840 --> 01:08:09,480 Speaker 1: two ways, one cyber and technical and to influence and content. 1189 01:08:09,560 --> 01:08:12,360 Speaker 1: It's both aspects. So in other words, it's not just 1190 01:08:12,480 --> 01:08:16,759 Speaker 1: breaking into computers. It's doing operations to try to influence policy. 1191 01:08:17,240 --> 01:08:19,679 Speaker 1: In the case of China, it's taking over the South 1192 01:08:19,760 --> 01:08:22,600 Speaker 1: China Sea without firing a shot. In the case of 1193 01:08:22,640 --> 01:08:25,960 Speaker 1: North Korea, it's attacking a movie company UH to to 1194 01:08:26,080 --> 01:08:27,960 Speaker 1: make them pay a penalty for a movie they didn't 1195 01:08:27,960 --> 01:08:31,040 Speaker 1: like about North Korea. North Korea in particularly, you devoted 1196 01:08:31,040 --> 01:08:34,599 Speaker 1: your second chapter to North Korea, and you say they 1197 01:08:34,640 --> 01:08:37,519 Speaker 1: are far more advanced in this hacking than we give 1198 01:08:37,560 --> 01:08:39,439 Speaker 1: credit for. For example, if I was going to mention 1199 01:08:39,479 --> 01:08:41,880 Speaker 1: countries that were likely to have hacked into our system, 1200 01:08:42,160 --> 01:08:45,880 Speaker 1: I probably mentioned some allies like Germany and Israel. Um 1201 01:08:45,920 --> 01:08:49,800 Speaker 1: I might mention Iran. I might mention Russia, I might 1202 01:08:49,880 --> 01:08:54,120 Speaker 1: mention the Chinese. But I kind of overlook North Korea. Why. Uh, 1203 01:08:54,160 --> 01:08:57,240 Speaker 1: In terms of capabilities, the North Koreans are considered a 1204 01:08:57,320 --> 01:09:01,719 Speaker 1: second tier cyber threat. Uh. The big dogs are Russia 1205 01:09:01,760 --> 01:09:05,000 Speaker 1: and China. After that, it's North Korea and Iran, and 1206 01:09:05,040 --> 01:09:08,480 Speaker 1: they're both coming on strong. For this book, I interviewed 1207 01:09:08,640 --> 01:09:12,000 Speaker 1: a North Korean defector who was in charge of training 1208 01:09:12,360 --> 01:09:15,599 Speaker 1: the very people who conducted the Sony hack, and he 1209 01:09:15,640 --> 01:09:17,840 Speaker 1: issued a dire warning. He said, look, we've got to 1210 01:09:17,880 --> 01:09:23,040 Speaker 1: do something to counteract North Korean information warfare operations or 1211 01:09:23,120 --> 01:09:24,880 Speaker 1: this country is going to be facing Here's what you 1212 01:09:25,000 --> 01:09:28,080 Speaker 1: serious threat. Here's what you say, United States eight percent 1213 01:09:28,280 --> 01:09:31,519 Speaker 1: of success is showing up you. You make the point 1214 01:09:31,600 --> 01:09:37,080 Speaker 1: that the US lost the information warfare capabilities. Then you 1215 01:09:37,160 --> 01:09:41,479 Speaker 1: go further. You quote a former CIA operative, Brad Johnson. 1216 01:09:41,880 --> 01:09:45,439 Speaker 1: If the CIA were directed to conduct information warfare today, 1217 01:09:45,479 --> 01:09:47,960 Speaker 1: it would be unable to do so because it no 1218 01:09:48,080 --> 01:09:53,360 Speaker 1: longer has an effective and capable director of operations. Yes, 1219 01:09:53,439 --> 01:09:56,400 Speaker 1: I was absolutely shocked by that, I asked, I'm shocked 1220 01:09:56,400 --> 01:09:58,479 Speaker 1: by it too. That's why I'm asking you. I asked him, 1221 01:09:58,479 --> 01:10:00,679 Speaker 1: I said, Okay, if you were in charge to the CIA, 1222 01:10:00,800 --> 01:10:03,880 Speaker 1: and he was in the dark side, the operation side, 1223 01:10:04,240 --> 01:10:06,800 Speaker 1: how would you do information warfare? And he said the 1224 01:10:06,840 --> 01:10:10,599 Speaker 1: agency has been so politicized over the years, and especially 1225 01:10:10,680 --> 01:10:14,479 Speaker 1: under John Brennan, that it has lost the capability. CIA 1226 01:10:14,640 --> 01:10:18,160 Speaker 1: has shifted its focus to conducting drone strikes instead of 1227 01:10:18,200 --> 01:10:22,240 Speaker 1: conducting clandestine and secret operations, and they really need some 1228 01:10:22,560 --> 01:10:26,960 Speaker 1: dire reform. We're hoping that the incoming director, Mike Pompeo, 1229 01:10:27,000 --> 01:10:29,880 Speaker 1: who's a really good guy, can turn things around over there. 1230 01:10:30,000 --> 01:10:33,360 Speaker 1: All right, let's go to more Maya sans interview and 1231 01:10:33,360 --> 01:10:35,799 Speaker 1: and play a couple of things where he says Russia 1232 01:10:35,840 --> 01:10:39,519 Speaker 1: not the source and who knows if the leaked emails 1233 01:10:39,600 --> 01:10:41,200 Speaker 1: changed the course of the election. I want to get 1234 01:10:41,240 --> 01:10:43,080 Speaker 1: your thoughts on this, in particular, because you make a 1235 01:10:43,080 --> 01:10:45,519 Speaker 1: statement early in the book where you talk about Donald 1236 01:10:45,520 --> 01:10:48,920 Speaker 1: Trump's use of Twitter against his opponents and how it 1237 01:10:48,960 --> 01:10:51,679 Speaker 1: will now set the tone for political campaigns in the future, 1238 01:10:51,680 --> 01:10:53,960 Speaker 1: which I've I've made that point as well, but I'm 1239 01:10:53,960 --> 01:10:56,720 Speaker 1: not sure anybody's going to be as effective as he's been. 1240 01:10:57,560 --> 01:11:02,000 Speaker 1: Did it change the outcome? Who knows. It's absolutely impossible 1241 01:11:02,040 --> 01:11:04,400 Speaker 1: to tell. But but if it did, If it did, 1242 01:11:05,120 --> 01:11:10,040 Speaker 1: the accusation is that the true statements of Hillary Clinton 1243 01:11:10,840 --> 01:11:14,240 Speaker 1: and to a campaign manager, John Podesta and the d 1244 01:11:14,439 --> 01:11:22,160 Speaker 1: n C head, their true statements is what changed the election? 1245 01:11:22,400 --> 01:11:27,719 Speaker 1: Did Russia give you this information or anybody associated with Russia? 1246 01:11:28,320 --> 01:11:33,080 Speaker 1: Our source is not a state party, So the answer 1247 01:11:33,120 --> 01:11:37,559 Speaker 1: for our interactions is no. But if we look at um, 1248 01:11:38,320 --> 01:11:41,200 Speaker 1: we look at the most recent statement by the US 1249 01:11:41,240 --> 01:11:43,599 Speaker 1: coloring which is on the twenty ninth of December. Okay, 1250 01:11:43,640 --> 01:11:48,719 Speaker 1: we had five different branches of government, Treasury, d h, S, FBI, 1251 01:11:48,840 --> 01:11:58,800 Speaker 1: White House presenting their accusations to underpin Obama's throwing out 1252 01:11:58,840 --> 01:12:02,000 Speaker 1: thirty five Russian him ass. What was missing from all 1253 01:12:02,040 --> 01:12:05,719 Speaker 1: of those statements, uh, the word WikiLeaks. It's very strange. 1254 01:12:06,120 --> 01:12:10,280 Speaker 1: What do you make of number one of Julian Osange's statement, 1255 01:12:10,360 --> 01:12:13,519 Speaker 1: do you believe him? One? Two? Is the Cold War 1256 01:12:13,600 --> 01:12:16,640 Speaker 1: now beginning a new? Three? How do you view and 1257 01:12:16,680 --> 01:12:20,080 Speaker 1: how should the US view of Vladimir Putin? Okay? First, 1258 01:12:20,120 --> 01:12:23,600 Speaker 1: on Assange, I think it's clear that until he reveals 1259 01:12:23,720 --> 01:12:26,880 Speaker 1: where he obtained the information that he leaked, then I 1260 01:12:26,920 --> 01:12:29,400 Speaker 1: think the onus is going to be on telling him 1261 01:12:29,439 --> 01:12:31,400 Speaker 1: where did you get it? And if he doesn't reveal that, 1262 01:12:31,479 --> 01:12:33,719 Speaker 1: I think that's a problem. But he's never been fairness 1263 01:12:33,800 --> 01:12:36,040 Speaker 1: to wiki leaks in ten years. They've never been wrong. 1264 01:12:36,200 --> 01:12:39,679 Speaker 1: He's never revealed a source, but he has eliminated sources 1265 01:12:39,720 --> 01:12:43,000 Speaker 1: in the past, and he's clearly eliminating Russia or any surrogates. 1266 01:12:43,000 --> 01:12:46,120 Speaker 1: I I went at those five different ways with him. 1267 01:12:46,160 --> 01:12:48,599 Speaker 1: You don't believe him? No? I think uh, like I say, 1268 01:12:49,240 --> 01:12:53,240 Speaker 1: I believe that our technical intelligence agencies have the real story. 1269 01:12:53,520 --> 01:12:58,840 Speaker 1: They've identified uh Wiki Leaks, DC Leaks and Goosefer two 1270 01:12:59,160 --> 01:13:02,479 Speaker 1: as conduit for this operation. Does that mean that they're 1271 01:13:02,520 --> 01:13:05,320 Speaker 1: directly tied to Russia? I think it's gonna be one 1272 01:13:05,320 --> 01:13:09,559 Speaker 1: about our Daily What about the Daily Mail report that 1273 01:13:09,680 --> 01:13:12,760 Speaker 1: had a friend of Assange claiming that they were all 1274 01:13:12,840 --> 01:13:16,680 Speaker 1: hand delivered at American University in a wooded area, and 1275 01:13:16,720 --> 01:13:19,920 Speaker 1: that it was from a disgruntled Democrat who felt Bernie 1276 01:13:19,960 --> 01:13:23,559 Speaker 1: Sanders got scrutinous campaign and there was a conspiracy against him, 1277 01:13:23,640 --> 01:13:25,800 Speaker 1: and he felt the corruption at the Clinton Foundation was 1278 01:13:25,840 --> 01:13:27,960 Speaker 1: bad for the country. This is gonna be one of 1279 01:13:28,000 --> 01:13:30,680 Speaker 1: the huge debate questions. It's gonna be percolating for the 1280 01:13:30,720 --> 01:13:35,320 Speaker 1: next few months until the actual source comes forward and says, Okay, 1281 01:13:35,439 --> 01:13:37,639 Speaker 1: I did the hacking, I got the emails, I gave 1282 01:13:37,680 --> 01:13:39,760 Speaker 1: them to this. Until we have that, we're gonna be 1283 01:13:39,920 --> 01:13:45,000 Speaker 1: But Hillary was wrong in saying seventeen agencies confirmed she was. 1284 01:13:45,080 --> 01:13:48,880 Speaker 1: That was totally totally And what was she talking about? 1285 01:13:48,880 --> 01:13:51,840 Speaker 1: The Post Office at that point? Pretty fun? But what 1286 01:13:51,920 --> 01:13:55,080 Speaker 1: about Russia? Putin? Are is there a Cold War? And 1287 01:13:55,560 --> 01:13:58,960 Speaker 1: we are definitely entering a new Cold War? In in iWar, 1288 01:13:59,080 --> 01:14:03,960 Speaker 1: I outlined the ideology behind Putinism. He is basically trying 1289 01:14:04,000 --> 01:14:08,000 Speaker 1: to re establish the Soviet Union without communism. He wants 1290 01:14:08,040 --> 01:14:12,360 Speaker 1: to create a pan Eurasian UH sphere of influence stretching 1291 01:14:12,400 --> 01:14:14,880 Speaker 1: from the Pacific to the Atlantic, and he wants to 1292 01:14:14,920 --> 01:14:17,519 Speaker 1: control all the areas in between. Let me ask, would 1293 01:14:17,520 --> 01:14:21,759 Speaker 1: that mean the annexation of crimea Ukraine is a quid 1294 01:14:21,800 --> 01:14:25,080 Speaker 1: pro quo with China and their territorial ambitions. Well, the 1295 01:14:25,200 --> 01:14:28,960 Speaker 1: Chinese are are looking at South China, ce South China. 1296 01:14:29,000 --> 01:14:31,400 Speaker 1: See they want to take over there. More importantly, they 1297 01:14:31,400 --> 01:14:34,240 Speaker 1: want to drive the United States outside of the Two 1298 01:14:34,320 --> 01:14:37,880 Speaker 1: Island Change. They basically a Chinese admiral several years ago 1299 01:14:38,040 --> 01:14:40,240 Speaker 1: went to the pay comp commander and said, hey, we'll 1300 01:14:40,240 --> 01:14:42,479 Speaker 1: give you everything up to Hawaii, but that's gonna be 1301 01:14:42,520 --> 01:14:45,200 Speaker 1: ours after that. What could the United States? What can 1302 01:14:45,280 --> 01:14:48,080 Speaker 1: Donald Trump do now that the ransom was paid to 1303 01:14:48,160 --> 01:14:51,040 Speaker 1: Iran and the Iranian deal? Oh, I think we've got 1304 01:14:51,040 --> 01:14:55,000 Speaker 1: to use an information warfare campaign against Iran. U. There 1305 01:14:55,080 --> 01:14:57,720 Speaker 1: was a golden opportunity in two thousand nine during the 1306 01:14:57,760 --> 01:15:02,360 Speaker 1: Green Revolution. Obamama bla the football because he wanted to 1307 01:15:02,479 --> 01:15:05,160 Speaker 1: do this nuclear deal, which is a disaster. It's going 1308 01:15:05,200 --> 01:15:07,759 Speaker 1: to lead to a nuclear armed Iran in ten years. 1309 01:15:08,240 --> 01:15:13,040 Speaker 1: I I advocate in in iWar, a information warfare campaign 1310 01:15:13,240 --> 01:15:16,960 Speaker 1: to bring about the democratic, peaceful transition. And you are 1311 01:15:17,040 --> 01:15:21,000 Speaker 1: talking about a new type of warfare using social media 1312 01:15:21,439 --> 01:15:25,639 Speaker 1: um cyber warfare as a means of influencing the minds 1313 01:15:25,640 --> 01:15:29,519 Speaker 1: and hearts of populations. Towards freedom, liberty, democracy, Yes, and 1314 01:15:29,560 --> 01:15:31,559 Speaker 1: I think we can learn from our enemies. We can 1315 01:15:31,600 --> 01:15:36,720 Speaker 1: apply truthful means, use truthful means and UH conduct aggressive 1316 01:15:36,760 --> 01:15:40,680 Speaker 1: information operations? Do we have the means and intelligence? Were not? 1317 01:15:40,800 --> 01:15:44,240 Speaker 1: Right now? Where way behind? I present my main proposal 1318 01:15:44,280 --> 01:15:47,519 Speaker 1: in the in IWA is to do something called Information America, 1319 01:15:47,760 --> 01:15:50,360 Speaker 1: and this would be a digital age U S I 1320 01:15:50,479 --> 01:15:53,680 Speaker 1: a type organization, and I present several alternatives. It can 1321 01:15:53,720 --> 01:15:56,040 Speaker 1: be government, it can be private sector, it can be 1322 01:15:56,080 --> 01:15:59,160 Speaker 1: a combination of both. But we need some new institution 1323 01:15:59,200 --> 01:16:01,200 Speaker 1: that's going to be able to help the United States 1324 01:16:01,280 --> 01:16:05,280 Speaker 1: fend off this information warfare assault that we're under under 1325 01:16:05,280 --> 01:16:09,000 Speaker 1: facing right now. You are one of the premier writers 1326 01:16:09,000 --> 01:16:11,800 Speaker 1: on national security and defense in the country. I've I've 1327 01:16:11,840 --> 01:16:14,479 Speaker 1: followed you now for my entire career on Fox twenty 1328 01:16:14,479 --> 01:16:17,599 Speaker 1: one years. Always love the things you write, your columns. 1329 01:16:17,720 --> 01:16:20,120 Speaker 1: This book is phenomenal. It's called I War War in 1330 01:16:20,240 --> 01:16:23,640 Speaker 1: Peace in the Information Age, How the United States can 1331 01:16:23,640 --> 01:16:27,080 Speaker 1: beat China, Russia around North Korea and Islamic terrorists on 1332 01:16:27,120 --> 01:16:29,639 Speaker 1: the digital battlefield. We don't learn from this, we're gonna 1333 01:16:29,640 --> 01:16:31,400 Speaker 1: make a big mistake because I think you're dead on 1334 01:16:31,720 --> 01:16:33,720 Speaker 1: Thanks for me. Let's appreciate it when we come back. 1335 01:16:33,720 --> 01:16:36,599 Speaker 1: Wide open telephones eight nine one, Shawn, if you want 1336 01:16:36,600 --> 01:16:38,559 Speaker 1: to be a part of the program. Dear members of 1337 01:16:38,600 --> 01:16:42,040 Speaker 1: congresser members of Congress, you're members of congy are members 1338 01:16:42,080 --> 01:16:47,280 Speaker 1: of Congress? On that flabbergast, furious, concerned for my children, 1339 01:16:47,360 --> 01:16:50,800 Speaker 1: I'm worried for everyone. The majority of Americans, regardless of 1340 01:16:50,840 --> 01:16:54,600 Speaker 1: who they voted for, did not vote for racism, for sexism, 1341 01:16:54,680 --> 01:16:57,960 Speaker 1: or for xenophobia. And yet Donald Trump won. And since 1342 01:16:57,960 --> 01:17:00,960 Speaker 1: he won, hey, crimes are rising. Men have been attacked 1343 01:17:00,960 --> 01:17:04,080 Speaker 1: in his name, people of color attacked in his name. 1344 01:17:04,360 --> 01:17:08,160 Speaker 1: You represent us in Congress. You are our last line 1345 01:17:08,200 --> 01:17:12,280 Speaker 1: of defense. So here's what we ask of our elected officials. No, 1346 01:17:12,760 --> 01:17:17,280 Speaker 1: here's what we demand. To the extent that Trump pursues racist, sexist, 1347 01:17:17,479 --> 01:17:23,280 Speaker 1: anti immigrant, anti worker, anti Muslim, anti Semitic, anti environmental policies, 1348 01:17:23,360 --> 01:17:27,479 Speaker 1: we demand that you vigorously oppose him. We demand that 1349 01:17:27,520 --> 01:17:30,360 Speaker 1: you block nominees who threatened the rights of women, the 1350 01:17:30,520 --> 01:17:34,160 Speaker 1: LGBT community, people of color, immigrants, and the poor. And 1351 01:17:34,200 --> 01:17:36,200 Speaker 1: we want you to know that we are with you. 1352 01:17:36,520 --> 01:17:39,439 Speaker 1: As long as you do that stuff, we won't remain silent. 1353 01:17:39,560 --> 01:17:42,880 Speaker 1: We won't remain silent. We won't remain silent. Will work 1354 01:17:42,920 --> 01:17:46,960 Speaker 1: harder to mobilize our votes and our communities. But we 1355 01:17:47,080 --> 01:17:49,919 Speaker 1: need you and we expect you to have our backs 1356 01:17:49,960 --> 01:17:52,920 Speaker 1: to protect our civil liberties and to use your congressional 1357 01:17:52,960 --> 01:17:59,479 Speaker 1: powers to obstruct, to obstruct, obstruct, obstruct, defeat anything anything, anything, 1358 01:17:59,640 --> 01:18:04,400 Speaker 1: anything that violates our core values. As diverse Americans signed 1359 01:18:04,479 --> 01:18:08,440 Speaker 1: the majority, the majority, the majority, the majority, the majority, 1360 01:18:08,600 --> 01:18:14,760 Speaker 1: the majority of the American people, Republican members of the 1361 01:18:14,800 --> 01:18:18,160 Speaker 1: Electoral College, This message is for you. As you know, 1362 01:18:18,320 --> 01:18:21,880 Speaker 1: our founding fathers built the Electoral College to safeguard the 1363 01:18:21,920 --> 01:18:25,040 Speaker 1: American people from the dangers of a demagogue, and to 1364 01:18:25,200 --> 01:18:28,320 Speaker 1: ensure that the presidency only goes to someone who is 1365 01:18:28,560 --> 01:18:33,280 Speaker 1: to an eminent degree, endowed with the requisite qualifications an 1366 01:18:33,400 --> 01:18:37,719 Speaker 1: eminent degree, someone who is highly qualified for the job. 1367 01:18:38,560 --> 01:18:42,800 Speaker 1: The Electoral College was created specifically to prevent an unfit 1368 01:18:42,960 --> 01:18:46,280 Speaker 1: candidate from becoming president. There are five hundred and thirty 1369 01:18:46,280 --> 01:18:49,639 Speaker 1: eight members of the Electoral College. You and just thirty 1370 01:18:49,720 --> 01:18:53,200 Speaker 1: six other conscientious Republican electors can make a difference by 1371 01:18:53,280 --> 01:18:57,639 Speaker 1: voting your conscience on December nineteenth, and thereby shaping the 1372 01:18:57,640 --> 01:19:00,519 Speaker 1: future of our nation. I'm not asked need to vote 1373 01:19:00,520 --> 01:19:03,080 Speaker 1: for Hillary Clinton. I'm not asking you to vote for 1374 01:19:03,120 --> 01:19:06,000 Speaker 1: Hillary Clinton. I'm not asking you to vote for Hillary Clinton. 1375 01:19:06,240 --> 01:19:08,600 Speaker 1: As you know, the Constitution gives electors the right to 1376 01:19:08,680 --> 01:19:12,320 Speaker 1: vote for any eligible person, any eligible person, no matter 1377 01:19:12,360 --> 01:19:14,760 Speaker 1: which party they belong to, but it should certainly be 1378 01:19:14,840 --> 01:19:20,360 Speaker 1: someone you consider especially competent, especially competent to serve as 1379 01:19:20,439 --> 01:19:24,640 Speaker 1: president of the United States of America. By voting your conscience, 1380 01:19:25,160 --> 01:19:28,920 Speaker 1: you and other brave Republican electors can give the House 1381 01:19:28,920 --> 01:19:33,360 Speaker 1: of Representatives the option to select a qualified candidate for 1382 01:19:33,439 --> 01:19:37,519 Speaker 1: the presidency. I stand with you. I stand with you. 1383 01:19:37,960 --> 01:19:41,120 Speaker 1: I stand with you. I stand with you in support 1384 01:19:41,200 --> 01:19:45,759 Speaker 1: and solidarity with Conservatives, independents, and liberals and all citizens 1385 01:19:45,760 --> 01:19:48,760 Speaker 1: of the United States. The American people trust that your 1386 01:19:48,840 --> 01:19:51,599 Speaker 1: voice speaks for us all, and that you will make 1387 01:19:51,640 --> 01:19:55,639 Speaker 1: yourself heard through the constitutional responsibility granted to you by 1388 01:19:55,680 --> 01:20:00,759 Speaker 1: Alexander Hamilton's himself. What is evident is that Donald lacks 1389 01:20:00,800 --> 01:20:03,920 Speaker 1: more than the qualifications would be president. He lacks the 1390 01:20:04,000 --> 01:20:08,559 Speaker 1: necessary stability and clearly the respect for the constitution of 1391 01:20:08,560 --> 01:20:13,280 Speaker 1: our great nation. You have the position, the authority, and 1392 01:20:13,320 --> 01:20:15,880 Speaker 1: the opportunity to go down in the books as an 1393 01:20:15,880 --> 01:20:20,240 Speaker 1: American hero who changed the course of history. And you 1394 01:20:20,320 --> 01:20:22,680 Speaker 1: have my respect. You have my respect. You have my 1395 01:20:22,760 --> 01:20:26,920 Speaker 1: respect for your patriotism and service to the American people. 1396 01:20:27,880 --> 01:20:35,040 Speaker 1: Unite for America first show back. My admonition for you 1397 01:20:35,240 --> 01:20:38,280 Speaker 1: is you better buckle up for this year. This is 1398 01:20:38,320 --> 01:20:44,680 Speaker 1: not going to be an easy political year. The Democrats 1399 01:20:44,720 --> 01:20:49,519 Speaker 1: are plotting, their planning, their scheming. They're trying to figure 1400 01:20:49,560 --> 01:20:53,320 Speaker 1: out the best way to destroy and I mean politically, 1401 01:20:54,000 --> 01:20:57,360 Speaker 1: Donald Trump. To prevent the agenda that he ran on 1402 01:20:57,800 --> 01:21:02,080 Speaker 1: from ever becoming the law of the land. It's going 1403 01:21:02,160 --> 01:21:07,200 Speaker 1: to require your engagement. It's going to require your assistance 1404 01:21:07,280 --> 01:21:12,240 Speaker 1: and your help on a daily and sustained basis. I 1405 01:21:12,280 --> 01:21:15,840 Speaker 1: know people's attention spans are rather short these days, and 1406 01:21:15,840 --> 01:21:18,320 Speaker 1: and everything is in thirty second sound bites. But if 1407 01:21:18,320 --> 01:21:23,320 Speaker 1: you're trying to lower the corporate tax rate to that's 1408 01:21:23,360 --> 01:21:28,200 Speaker 1: going to be hard to eliminate Obamacare with the mantra 1409 01:21:28,640 --> 01:21:31,800 Speaker 1: you broke it, you own it. Well, actually they broke it. 1410 01:21:31,960 --> 01:21:36,000 Speaker 1: We're trying to fix the mess that they created. You know, 1411 01:21:36,000 --> 01:21:40,200 Speaker 1: when you try and and and remove energy regulations and 1412 01:21:40,240 --> 01:21:43,320 Speaker 1: you get a bunch of environmental snowflakes out there that 1413 01:21:43,360 --> 01:21:48,440 Speaker 1: are going insane, and and staging protests after protests, and 1414 01:21:48,439 --> 01:21:52,719 Speaker 1: and fearmongering about dirty air and dirty water. That's not 1415 01:21:52,800 --> 01:21:55,720 Speaker 1: going to be easy to do. When you try to 1416 01:21:55,760 --> 01:22:01,439 Speaker 1: put a strict originalist constructionists on the on the Supreme Court, 1417 01:22:01,640 --> 01:22:05,240 Speaker 1: that's not an easy lift. When you begin building the 1418 01:22:05,360 --> 01:22:08,840 Speaker 1: border wall, that's not gonna be an easy lift either. 1419 01:22:09,439 --> 01:22:12,400 Speaker 1: When you when you push education back to the States 1420 01:22:13,040 --> 01:22:16,840 Speaker 1: and allow choice in education for families, that's not going 1421 01:22:16,880 --> 01:22:19,240 Speaker 1: to be an easy lift. And then when you start 1422 01:22:19,320 --> 01:22:24,240 Speaker 1: cleaning up the mess of Obama on foreign policy and Libya, 1423 01:22:24,400 --> 01:22:28,960 Speaker 1: the Middle East, repairing the damage with Israel working, you know, 1424 01:22:29,080 --> 01:22:33,720 Speaker 1: to improve the abysmal human rights record and countries like 1425 01:22:34,400 --> 01:22:39,040 Speaker 1: Yemen and the UAE and Kuwait in Saudi Arabia, that's 1426 01:22:39,040 --> 01:22:41,720 Speaker 1: gonna be difficult. You know. Then you have to deal 1427 01:22:41,760 --> 01:22:45,280 Speaker 1: with problems that Egypt is having and problems that Jordan 1428 01:22:45,439 --> 01:22:48,120 Speaker 1: is having. Then you have a Syrian refugee problem, and 1429 01:22:48,160 --> 01:22:50,519 Speaker 1: what do you do with victims of a civil war there? 1430 01:22:51,200 --> 01:22:54,880 Speaker 1: And how do you stop the expansion of ISIS and 1431 01:22:54,960 --> 01:22:58,440 Speaker 1: how do we choke them off, especially their financial resources, 1432 01:22:58,920 --> 01:23:01,599 Speaker 1: especially if you don't want to engage on the ground 1433 01:23:01,640 --> 01:23:05,640 Speaker 1: in another foreign conflict, especially because America doesn't seem to 1434 01:23:05,680 --> 01:23:08,360 Speaker 1: have the stomach to actually begin a war with the 1435 01:23:08,400 --> 01:23:11,559 Speaker 1: goal of winning it before you leave. And then you 1436 01:23:11,560 --> 01:23:14,280 Speaker 1: can add to that, how will we deal with Vladimir Putin? 1437 01:23:14,840 --> 01:23:18,000 Speaker 1: How are we going to deal with other issues? All right? 1438 01:23:18,040 --> 01:23:19,640 Speaker 1: But I could keep going on forever here. All right, 1439 01:23:19,720 --> 01:23:22,920 Speaker 1: let's get to our busy phones are first calls here? Well, 1440 01:23:23,240 --> 01:23:27,280 Speaker 1: we took one earlier, uh for twenty seventeen. Let's say 1441 01:23:27,320 --> 01:23:30,839 Speaker 1: hi to Bianca's and Palm Beach Gardens in Florida. Bianca, 1442 01:23:30,880 --> 01:23:33,240 Speaker 1: Happy New Year to you, Glad you called, Glad you're 1443 01:23:33,280 --> 01:23:36,280 Speaker 1: with us. Happy New Year to you too. And I 1444 01:23:36,360 --> 01:23:38,360 Speaker 1: just want to say I'm so glad you're doing the 1445 01:23:38,400 --> 01:23:44,080 Speaker 1: program tonight on Julian Assange because I am soustic of 1446 01:23:44,240 --> 01:23:49,880 Speaker 1: President Obama and the Democrats blaming the loss of Hillary 1447 01:23:49,960 --> 01:23:53,840 Speaker 1: on the Russians hacking our election. I would like to 1448 01:23:53,880 --> 01:23:56,120 Speaker 1: ask you a favor. What could I do for it? 1449 01:23:57,120 --> 01:23:59,920 Speaker 1: I would like you to ask Julian Assaga. I know 1450 01:24:00,040 --> 01:24:03,439 Speaker 1: you've pressed him on it before, However, I'd like you 1451 01:24:03,479 --> 01:24:07,000 Speaker 1: to ask him. Was the murdered d n C staffer 1452 01:24:07,080 --> 01:24:11,479 Speaker 1: Seth Rich one of his sources, because he did put 1453 01:24:11,600 --> 01:24:15,920 Speaker 1: up a twenty dollar reward, and that was shortly after 1454 01:24:16,479 --> 01:24:20,959 Speaker 1: his murder, and it was also shortly after Debbie Wasserman 1455 01:24:21,000 --> 01:24:24,040 Speaker 1: Sult was forced to step down. All right, I didn't. Well, 1456 01:24:24,080 --> 01:24:26,280 Speaker 1: first of all, I did. I did the interview already, 1457 01:24:26,400 --> 01:24:29,519 Speaker 1: so I did it yesterday. So it's not like I 1458 01:24:29,560 --> 01:24:31,519 Speaker 1: can go back and fly to London just to get 1459 01:24:31,560 --> 01:24:34,120 Speaker 1: you're talking about Seth Rich, who I believe you're talking about. 1460 01:24:34,120 --> 01:24:37,519 Speaker 1: It was murdered in in d C and the motive 1461 01:24:37,600 --> 01:24:39,960 Speaker 1: and his mother told the local NBC station that there 1462 01:24:39,960 --> 01:24:43,040 Speaker 1: were bruises on his face, his knees, his hands, you know, 1463 01:24:43,080 --> 01:24:46,280 Speaker 1: apparently trying to fend off attackers. Look, I've read all 1464 01:24:46,320 --> 01:24:49,200 Speaker 1: about Here's what I will tell you. The Daily Mail 1465 01:24:49,360 --> 01:24:55,080 Speaker 1: did have a story about a friend of Julian Assance, 1466 01:24:55,800 --> 01:24:59,840 Speaker 1: and this friend claimed into the Daily Mail then in 1467 01:25:00,040 --> 01:25:05,160 Speaker 1: fact he went and met this guy, the friend of Julian's. 1468 01:25:05,360 --> 01:25:07,240 Speaker 1: It was a d n C staffer, guy that was 1469 01:25:07,360 --> 01:25:10,400 Speaker 1: upset with how the d n C was acting, and 1470 01:25:10,439 --> 01:25:12,759 Speaker 1: that he in fact went and met him and handed 1471 01:25:12,760 --> 01:25:15,840 Speaker 1: off all of these emails in person. Now, the guy's 1472 01:25:15,880 --> 01:25:18,520 Speaker 1: name is Craig Murray. He was the former British ambassador 1473 01:25:18,560 --> 01:25:22,320 Speaker 1: to Uzbekistan, an associate and a friend of Julian. I 1474 01:25:22,360 --> 01:25:26,320 Speaker 1: asked him about that tonight and it seems to be 1475 01:25:26,479 --> 01:25:30,040 Speaker 1: one question that irritates him because one of the things 1476 01:25:30,080 --> 01:25:32,200 Speaker 1: that you get out of the interview is that in 1477 01:25:32,240 --> 01:25:34,519 Speaker 1: the ten years that Wiki leaks has been up and 1478 01:25:34,600 --> 01:25:36,479 Speaker 1: running is that he's very proud of the fact that 1479 01:25:36,520 --> 01:25:39,360 Speaker 1: they've never been proven wrong. So nor that, nor do 1480 01:25:39,479 --> 01:25:42,080 Speaker 1: they reveal sources. Now, if you've got to do the 1481 01:25:42,120 --> 01:25:44,280 Speaker 1: type of work Wiki leaks is doing, you you really 1482 01:25:44,320 --> 01:25:49,160 Speaker 1: can't reveal sources or you won't have any sources that's true. 1483 01:25:49,200 --> 01:25:51,960 Speaker 1: Can I also mentioned I and I know it may 1484 01:25:52,000 --> 01:25:56,720 Speaker 1: be hearsay, but Steve Psniac or Psniak, I'm not sure 1485 01:25:56,760 --> 01:25:59,800 Speaker 1: what his name is. He sent several videos and he's 1486 01:26:00,520 --> 01:26:04,160 Speaker 1: that many of our own intelligence officials in the CIA 1487 01:26:04,320 --> 01:26:09,160 Speaker 1: and FBI, we're actually staging a coup against Hillary as 1488 01:26:09,200 --> 01:26:12,080 Speaker 1: to not have her win the election because they thought 1489 01:26:12,120 --> 01:26:16,000 Speaker 1: she was a danger to our country. Look, you know, 1490 01:26:16,040 --> 01:26:18,880 Speaker 1: there's all sorts of theories out there, and you know, 1491 01:26:19,120 --> 01:26:23,840 Speaker 1: here's the interesting thing that I would ask the federal government. Well, uh, 1492 01:26:23,880 --> 01:26:27,600 Speaker 1: and I'd ask Obama if they're going to claim the 1493 01:26:27,680 --> 01:26:32,919 Speaker 1: Russians did this, and there's not seventeen agencies as Hillary claimed, 1494 01:26:33,000 --> 01:26:35,559 Speaker 1: and there's a thirteen page memo that does not give 1495 01:26:35,680 --> 01:26:39,640 Speaker 1: any information that confirms this. Why don't they give us 1496 01:26:39,640 --> 01:26:42,320 Speaker 1: the evidence that proves it? And then that would quote 1497 01:26:42,320 --> 01:26:45,800 Speaker 1: prove Julian Assangel liar. Now the only reason. Now we 1498 01:26:45,840 --> 01:26:49,759 Speaker 1: have a top cybersecurity expert, John McAfee who says, quote, 1499 01:26:49,800 --> 01:26:52,479 Speaker 1: I can guarantee you it was in the Russians. The 1500 01:26:52,560 --> 01:26:55,519 Speaker 1: Washington Post how to retract their claim that Russia had 1501 01:26:55,560 --> 01:27:00,200 Speaker 1: hacked the US electric grid, you know, which is pretty humorous. 1502 01:27:00,360 --> 01:27:02,559 Speaker 1: I mean, the media is spreading fake news in a 1503 01:27:02,600 --> 01:27:05,280 Speaker 1: bid to bolster the Russian hack claims, and in that 1504 01:27:05,360 --> 01:27:09,120 Speaker 1: particular case, they got caught, you know, So what, for example, 1505 01:27:09,160 --> 01:27:12,640 Speaker 1: the Obama administration has been asked by Congress for a 1506 01:27:12,680 --> 01:27:15,200 Speaker 1: long period of time, a number of weeks now to 1507 01:27:15,360 --> 01:27:18,960 Speaker 1: hand over proof that they have that the Russians hacked themselves, 1508 01:27:18,960 --> 01:27:21,719 Speaker 1: that they gave it to Wiki leaks. Well, as Byron 1509 01:27:21,800 --> 01:27:24,639 Speaker 1: York pointed out in his column, they continue to pound 1510 01:27:24,640 --> 01:27:28,320 Speaker 1: away on these allegations that Vladimir Putin is the one responsible. 1511 01:27:28,720 --> 01:27:32,439 Speaker 1: Julian Assan says no, but uh. In fact, members of 1512 01:27:32,439 --> 01:27:35,120 Speaker 1: the Intelligence Committee have a lot of questions about it, 1513 01:27:35,640 --> 01:27:37,800 Speaker 1: and they liked the information. They were asking for it 1514 01:27:37,840 --> 01:27:41,200 Speaker 1: before Christmas, and the White House refused to brief the 1515 01:27:41,240 --> 01:27:44,960 Speaker 1: House Intelligence Committee, telling lawmakers they can wait until Intel 1516 01:27:44,960 --> 01:27:49,040 Speaker 1: officials finished the investigation that was ordered by Obama. Well, 1517 01:27:49,040 --> 01:27:51,679 Speaker 1: by that point, you know, you know, we've been told 1518 01:27:51,880 --> 01:27:56,200 Speaker 1: seventeen of our intelligence agencies are sure that the computers 1519 01:27:56,200 --> 01:27:58,960 Speaker 1: of the Clinton campaign and Democratic National Committee were hacked 1520 01:27:58,960 --> 01:28:02,920 Speaker 1: by Russians under the direct orders of Putin himself. The 1521 01:28:02,920 --> 01:28:06,880 Speaker 1: only problem is that you don't have seventeen intelligence agencies. 1522 01:28:07,479 --> 01:28:10,479 Speaker 1: So now we've got fake news stories to bolster the 1523 01:28:10,600 --> 01:28:14,320 Speaker 1: claim of the president and the Democrats losing the election. 1524 01:28:15,040 --> 01:28:17,880 Speaker 1: Now it raises another question, and I think this is 1525 01:28:17,880 --> 01:28:22,200 Speaker 1: an important one. If, in fact, you know, the President 1526 01:28:22,240 --> 01:28:26,320 Speaker 1: reacts by expelling these these thirty five people, well I 1527 01:28:26,360 --> 01:28:30,160 Speaker 1: have a question for the president. Why didn't the president 1528 01:28:30,400 --> 01:28:33,400 Speaker 1: do anything in twenty when they were twenty three million 1529 01:28:33,439 --> 01:28:37,559 Speaker 1: hacks by the Chinese? He never even mentioned it. In 1530 01:28:38,439 --> 01:28:42,120 Speaker 1: the Chinese stole millions and millions of personal accounts, including 1531 01:28:42,120 --> 01:28:45,400 Speaker 1: classified information on individuals who are seeing or working for 1532 01:28:45,479 --> 01:28:49,519 Speaker 1: our government. Twenty three million, and the White House of 1533 01:28:49,600 --> 01:28:52,280 Speaker 1: Obama neighbor even gave a single statement on it. So 1534 01:28:52,280 --> 01:28:55,240 Speaker 1: why are they treating this any differently than what China did? 1535 01:28:55,720 --> 01:28:58,400 Speaker 1: And that has been confirmed. You know, why is he 1536 01:28:58,479 --> 01:29:03,560 Speaker 1: politicizing Russia and Putin and not China because this advances 1537 01:29:03,920 --> 01:29:07,120 Speaker 1: the political narrative to de legitimize Donald Trump. To me, 1538 01:29:07,160 --> 01:29:12,080 Speaker 1: it's that, That's simple. Robin jonestown Johnstown in Pennsylvania. Robin, 1539 01:29:12,120 --> 01:29:15,120 Speaker 1: how are you when We're glad you called? Thank you? 1540 01:29:15,280 --> 01:29:19,280 Speaker 1: I'm doing quite well. Happy New year of Happy New 1541 01:29:19,400 --> 01:29:21,400 Speaker 1: year too. Did you hire it? Did you say you 1542 01:29:21,479 --> 01:29:25,240 Speaker 1: hired a therapist? No? I said, I'm I'm well, I 1543 01:29:25,240 --> 01:29:27,400 Speaker 1: am about ready to but no, I mean I'm tired 1544 01:29:27,640 --> 01:29:31,439 Speaker 1: of foots in my channels, back through three different news 1545 01:29:31,439 --> 01:29:35,160 Speaker 1: broadcast to get any story straight. I'm a googled more 1546 01:29:35,200 --> 01:29:38,639 Speaker 1: stuff since last year than I've ever in my life 1547 01:29:38,720 --> 01:29:41,519 Speaker 1: doing my own research. Can't believe anyone anymore. I mean, 1548 01:29:42,680 --> 01:29:46,760 Speaker 1: my frustration has been kind of comparing this situation with 1549 01:29:46,800 --> 01:29:50,519 Speaker 1: that Russian hacking and them treating the American public like 1550 01:29:50,640 --> 01:29:54,519 Speaker 1: we're idiots, um saying that they couldn't have taken any 1551 01:29:54,560 --> 01:29:57,160 Speaker 1: action because it would have this. You look at the 1552 01:29:57,240 --> 01:30:01,599 Speaker 1: time and how swiftly November House and fourteen is when 1553 01:30:02,240 --> 01:30:06,360 Speaker 1: celebrities emails got hacked and they put all that information 1554 01:30:06,360 --> 01:30:07,880 Speaker 1: out that made him look, I guess, like a bunch 1555 01:30:07,920 --> 01:30:12,800 Speaker 1: of crazy people. So by December early they had decided 1556 01:30:12,800 --> 01:30:15,120 Speaker 1: based on the coding to different things that North Korea 1557 01:30:15,640 --> 01:30:20,240 Speaker 1: January second sanctions were put against the North Korean not 1558 01:30:20,320 --> 01:30:24,680 Speaker 1: necessarily the people they thought were completely responsible. Let me 1559 01:30:24,720 --> 01:30:27,400 Speaker 1: just say this to what you're saying, we are hacked 1560 01:30:27,520 --> 01:30:31,680 Speaker 1: all the time, We hack others all the time. The 1561 01:30:31,800 --> 01:30:35,519 Speaker 1: question is why are they focused on this narrative when 1562 01:30:35,600 --> 01:30:39,400 Speaker 1: no new information came in after the election. It's all 1563 01:30:39,439 --> 01:30:39,919 Speaker 1: political