Speaker 1: I can't stand down here with y'all, and I ain't
Speaker 1: got nothing else to prove. I survived shot wreck, I
Speaker 1: survived a ghetto, and you can't take that from me.
Speaker 1: That's a trick that the inner City runs on. The
Speaker 1: Inner City is like, prove you a gangster for what?
Speaker 1: And I really come from nothing. I really come from
Speaker 1: the ghetto. I really come from nothing. It's documented.
Speaker 2: Ain't nobody, never had none in my family, and I
Speaker 2: done got rich.
Speaker 1: What else I got to prove? What the else I
Speaker 1: got to prove? You want me to defend the fact that.
Speaker 2: I come up slinging in for what, I come up
Speaker 2: putting belt to ask for what?
Speaker 1: And I have made it out the ghetto. That's up
Speaker 1: the highest reward from God. I gotta honor what God
Speaker 1: done for me. I got to honor the pathway that
Speaker 1: been lit for me. And I gotta act this, Harriet Tugman,
Speaker 1: I gotta show the underground railroad to get out the
Speaker 1: burning city. Because sometimes when you barre everybody cross, you
Speaker 1: would roll your opportunities.
Speaker 2: You put a Rosi in on your opportunities.
Speaker 1: You could have saved your family, but you wouldn't leave
Speaker 1: your neighborhood you could have saved the block, but you
Speaker 1: wouldn't leave the block. The goal is to beat the game,
Speaker 1: not standing relish the fact that I'm still in the game,
Speaker 1: which one of you dumb been preaching that you know
Speaker 1: that ain't in my ministry. That ain't in my fucking
Speaker 1: ministry to be running around talking about what we've done
Speaker 1: in the ghetto and defending the fact that we sold
Speaker 1: drugs and beat the block dying.
Speaker 2: Sometimes the proof is in the pudding.
Speaker 1: Taste of pudding, eat the cake, and a may you
Speaker 1: looking at proof?
Speaker 2: Me you talking about the problem is we spend too
Speaker 2: much time.
Speaker 1: Holding on to what we were, her hold on to
Speaker 1: what we had. And I get it, because coach is
Speaker 1: in what you had. Sometimes you don't want to let
Speaker 1: go of what you had because it reminds you of
Speaker 1: who you are.
Speaker 2: But I think we need to spend less time on reminding.
Speaker 1: Ourselves who we were and what we are and what
Speaker 1: we're trying to be is what we need to focus on.
Speaker 3: And if you ain't talking no dough, than I ain't interrest. Look,
Speaker 3: they say this guy's the limit. I'm going farther than that.
Speaker 3: She get blowing on my phone, So I called her mama,
Speaker 3: Come and get your daughter back. They want a little
Speaker 3: better than get them boys.
Speaker 2: Wag or what bab little one?
Speaker 4: And I bush your brain but get a hard hat.
Speaker 3: They say, this guy's a limb, I'm going fall. Or
Speaker 3: you can try to but can't kill ummy bad or
Speaker 3: I just bought a nigga life as in did decide?
Speaker 5: Come with that order you.
Speaker 2: Leave the reason you broke. You don't know how to
Speaker 2: horse try it ain't normal.
Speaker 3: Stress on the red rud red dye and he Black
Speaker 3: one twelve come out. You know I'm looking to the
Speaker 3: as for good because he never felt want to stick
Speaker 3: on to.
Speaker 4: The wilders and nail gun ride.
Speaker 2: With my dogs on a nail. Welcome to us, up
Speaker 2: that podcast.
Speaker 1: I am your active and attractive host big Loan for
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Speaker 1: gonna lie to you for the rest of the year.
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Speaker 1: a week, because I really want to dedicate some time
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Speaker 2: And get with y'all.
Speaker 1: One thing I know about when I'm in here, I'm
Speaker 1: able to dance and battle. And because see, conversation is
Speaker 1: Conversation is a sweet science.
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Speaker 1: with anyone. That's when I was really harnessing my skills
Speaker 1: and putting myself in a situation where I can get
Speaker 1: on this mic dolo by myself and hold an audience.
Speaker 1: And I know so many people really and truly missed
Speaker 1: that from me, because every time i'm mouth people really
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Speaker 1: We love the interviews, and I can tell by the numbers,
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Speaker 1: But there's a level of people, there's a category, a
Speaker 1: sub section of people who want to see me by
Speaker 1: myself and hear what my thoughts are on current topics
Speaker 1: and some of the game, some of the shit that's
Speaker 1: out there that we can put a little game next to. Right,
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Speaker 1: We are starting to do a call in show on Thursdays.
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Speaker 1: a week. We're gonna do a call in show or
Speaker 1: people call in and give us current topics, so we
Speaker 1: just debate topics. So we just talk about what's going
Speaker 1: on in the world or going on in your life.
Speaker 2: Right, we tap in with the people.
Speaker 1: We're gonna do maybe an hour of that that'll be
Speaker 1: exclusively behind the paywall as well. And so again, I
Speaker 1: thank you guys so much for being just instrumental in
Speaker 1: my life changing as I battle the industry and when
Speaker 1: I say battle the industry, I never want that to
Speaker 1: come off.
Speaker 2: It's like I'm.
Speaker 1: In some kind of situation where I can't handle what's
Speaker 1: going on. What I will say is that I'm in
Speaker 1: a situation where there's a lot of new information needed.
Speaker 1: There's a lot of pathways that I don't know about
Speaker 1: that it's yet to be discovered. Maybe there's a lot
Speaker 1: of relationships and things that I'm not the best at
Speaker 1: harvesting in the industry. I'll be completely transparent and honest
Speaker 1: with you guys. There's a lot of fakes in the industry.
Speaker 1: There's a lot of yo, give my number, dudes don't answer.
Speaker 1: I don't know how to take that, because I really
Speaker 1: come from a place where those kinds of things are
Speaker 1: not even in the scenario. I'll just tell you, bra
Speaker 1: don't even be giving my number out like that, or
Speaker 1: I'll tell you something that you know ain't true. I
Speaker 1: don't even got no phone, I don't even carry no
Speaker 1: phone like but I'm not gonna give you my number,
Speaker 1: and I'm not gonna answer that number for me.
Speaker 2: Just little things like that.
Speaker 1: I think you have to remove yourself from being emotionally
Speaker 1: attached to those things. But here's a trick that I
Speaker 1: noticed in particular with rappers. Right, I also believe no
Speaker 1: one owes you nothing because I'm in a situation where
Speaker 1: dudes think I should owe them or I should kick
Speaker 1: back this or do this or do that.
Speaker 2: And that's not necessarily the case. But the second part.
Speaker 1: Of that, and I want to spend a little bit
Speaker 1: of time on that before we get into the topic, says,
Speaker 1: while no one owes you nothing, that includes lies.
Speaker 2: See that's the problem.
Speaker 1: A lot of these to get a little fame, get
Speaker 1: a little money, and then they're hide behind man he
Speaker 1: acting like an owe him some. Now, you don't owe
Speaker 1: me nothing, not even the lies you telling me. You
Speaker 1: see what I'm saying. You ain't got to tell me loan,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna come on the platform, Loan, I'm gonna come
Speaker 1: come do this. Loan, we gonna do that. You ain't
Speaker 1: even got that. You don't owe me nothing. And that
Speaker 1: includes the lies that you be peddling. So I'm not
Speaker 1: familiar with the mask that well, I'm not. I haven't
Speaker 1: incorporated the fun way of the shit that havel in
Speaker 1: a repertoire. See, I haven't been that kind of entire
Speaker 1: life I'd rather stay away from you. I'd rather tell you,
Speaker 1: I'd rather patch you down, wave you off. But what
Speaker 1: I ain't gonna do is promising some or say something
Speaker 1: to it that I don't plan on standing by. That's
Speaker 1: why you don't hit me. All go when you don't
Speaker 1: hear me go back and forth with you. I want
Speaker 1: to see me and see my energy. I want to
Speaker 1: push up on the dollar sign and see what he
Speaker 1: really he really talking about. But one thing I won't
Speaker 1: do is make no false promises. So I ain't gonna
Speaker 1: tell you when I see you, i'm gonna smack you.
Speaker 1: And I see you and I don't and you don't
Speaker 1: get smacked. I ain't gonna tell you I'm gonna pray
Speaker 1: for you, and I ain't never thinking about praying for you.
Speaker 1: I ain't gonna tell you I'm gonna help you, I'm
Speaker 1: gonna uplift you, I'm gonna look out for.
Speaker 2: You you might need.
Speaker 1: And I don't mean that I stand by what I say, homie.
Speaker 1: And in this culture, in this game in particular, what
Speaker 1: the standing at the head nod can get you further,
Speaker 1: or like a share of comment can get you further
Speaker 1: to withhold it.
Speaker 2: But you gotta learn how to just say, oh man,
Speaker 2: it's part of the game. They damned to turn you
Speaker 2: into a sucker, because if you in this game and
Speaker 2: you're taking these things the hard that exuot this game.
Speaker 2: And this is for the people behind me.
Speaker 1: If you notice, I ain't never got into argument with
Speaker 1: about what he ain't done for me. I ain't never
Speaker 1: slick shot through, no thish and no what they ain't done.
Speaker 1: But I take mental notes. I'll be like, oh, that
Speaker 1: el kind of what kind of games they play?
Speaker 2: And if he lying.
Speaker 1: About that, what else do you lying about? What else
Speaker 1: do you be lying about something that simple? Lie about
Speaker 1: something that's simple? What else do you need to be
Speaker 1: lying about?
Speaker 2: One thing? Got no homit. So I just want people
Speaker 2: to know say this ain't no average. Two things can
Speaker 2: be true.
Speaker 1: Don't nobody owe you nothing, but not even the lives
Speaker 1: that they run around.
Speaker 2: Pelling when they in the casis.
Speaker 1: See when I'm in people face, I don't do no
Speaker 1: whole bunch of trying to fit in and have this
Speaker 1: low esteem because I always remember that authenticity is the.
Speaker 2: Highest form of vibration.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna stay authentically myself, regardless of who like it.
Speaker 1: Regardless of who don't believe it, regardless of who don't
Speaker 1: who don't get out with it. I'm already doing what
Speaker 1: I'm doing. I'm already having what I'm having. So it
Speaker 1: ain't no way. Nobody gonna interrupt or interfeel intercept.
Speaker 2: That ain't no way. But you don't owe nothing home,
Speaker 2: and not even the lies you're telling them. So keep
Speaker 2: them lies between you and your broad, you and your family.
Speaker 2: You can lie to your kids, lie to all them.
Speaker 2: Don't be running around the industry lying for me. That's
Speaker 2: a violation to the highest extent. Because if you lying
Speaker 2: about something so simple, what all you lying about? What
Speaker 2: all you lying about? Love one?
Speaker 1: So clean your face, and if you wash your hands,
Speaker 1: you can eat with king the It ain't no offense
Speaker 1: you can't come back from.
Speaker 2: Just make it right.
Speaker 1: It's a lot of in the ghetto, depending on a
Speaker 1: lot of theseus running around line.
Speaker 2: When they pull up in the ghetto, this is who
Speaker 2: is really for. This is what I'm really talking about.
Speaker 2: A lot of you pull up in the ghetto and
Speaker 2: because you around the killers. Now I'm gonna do that.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna put you on the show. Matter of fact,
Speaker 2: I'm gonna drop you the pill.
Speaker 1: Later on, I'm gonna let you come through and see
Speaker 1: what going on and meet this and do this. I
Speaker 1: know you got your cold and line. I'm gonna be
Speaker 1: with such and certain them God gonna come through. I'm
Speaker 1: gonna let you.
Speaker 2: Boy.
Speaker 1: You don't got no plans on doing that while you
Speaker 1: throwing hot air in this game. Somebody gotta help me
Speaker 1: understand what benefit is that? Is that just for your
Speaker 1: comfortability in the moment, I'm comfortable with at what ain't
Speaker 1: comfortable when everybody uncomfortable.
Speaker 2: I'm comfortable because I know one thing.
Speaker 1: I ain't running around pelling lies to I ain't making
Speaker 1: false promises. And sometimes people are not with you because
Speaker 1: you don't do the false promise thing. They've been around
Speaker 1: so many suckers and so many that's in the game
Speaker 1: and having some kind of fame and money that they're
Speaker 1: expecting you to come around and promise some shit too.
Speaker 1: Like I remember hearing old stories and I don't know
Speaker 1: if this is true or not about how Jay Prince
Speaker 1: them would take things personal because these rapids get down
Speaker 1: and Texas where the throng got and and make some
Speaker 1: false promises to the old man. Now I'm gonna get
Speaker 1: on the song and then leave and try not to
Speaker 1: answer the phone and then be pushing.
Speaker 2: Back up, Like, Bro, why you even do that? Like
Speaker 2: what is that about?
Speaker 6: Like?
Speaker 2: What kind of sucker is that? That? Ain't no lollipop?
Speaker 2: What kind of sucker is that?
Speaker 1: You understand what I'm saying, but you can't appear wounded.
Speaker 1: You know, one of the fifty of laws or the
Speaker 1: forty they laws of power is to pear to need nothing,
Speaker 1: so you can't appear wounded. That's why you gotta be
Speaker 1: in a position of power and talking about this shit.
Speaker 1: They gotta know that if they never call, nothing never changes.
Speaker 1: If they never answer the call, nothing never changes. If
Speaker 1: they never takes back, nothing never changes.
Speaker 2: If they they.
Speaker 1: Don't incorporate the infrastructure needed for you to move forward,
Speaker 1: nothing never changes.
Speaker 2: One thing, you got it. Your hustle can't take that
Speaker 2: from you. Love one can't nobody take if you a hustler.
Speaker 1: Can't nobody take that from you. Cub that go from
Speaker 1: the people that hate you the people that love you.
Speaker 1: If they capture your confidence, that's the only way your
Speaker 1: hustle go with your confidence. If they can get you
Speaker 1: to stop believing in yourself one thing I want to
Speaker 1: do is breathe life in the neck on the opposite
Speaker 1: side of this sign to some of the people on
Speaker 1: the come up and then they try to frame it
Speaker 1: and they put a fence around it as it pertains
Speaker 1: to the behavior and try to act like that you're
Speaker 1: needy or you're asking for shit, And a lot of
Speaker 1: times they volunteerize and I'm still trying to figure out
Speaker 1: what that's about. But on the other side of it
Speaker 1: that if you are who you say you are and
Speaker 1: you're in a position, brother, you gotta keep going.
Speaker 2: That's the only way you can keep growing.
Speaker 1: So I don't want to get in their head about
Speaker 1: what is happening, what did I do? Why do acting
Speaker 1: like in and what's going on? Especially if the relationship
Speaker 1: doesn't have enough equity for the conversation to behaved.
Speaker 2: You just got to keep it moving.
Speaker 1: But don't nobody owe any one nothing, not even the
Speaker 1: lives that they run around pending. I want to breathe
Speaker 1: life into people who are out there hustling and trying
Speaker 1: to make a way and let you know that on
Speaker 1: the other side of your hustle is everything you ever wanted.
Speaker 1: And there's a scenario where you get in this game.
Speaker 7: And.
Speaker 1: It's information based. The talent go out the window at
Speaker 1: a certain point, like I ain't gonna lie. Just left
Speaker 1: La and I interviewed Ge Herbo. This was Little Baby
Speaker 1: was on the last show as it pertains to the
Speaker 1: American leg of his Wham World tour, and so there
Speaker 1: was a lot of rappers out there and I was
Speaker 1: out there with Herbo. Me and Herbo had a great
Speaker 1: conversation that's coming to us up there podcast soon.
Speaker 2: And I'm particularly interested.
Speaker 1: In those guys that come out of Chicago, you know,
Speaker 1: the herbals, The chief keeps the dirks, all of them right,
Speaker 1: because I understand that coming out of Chicago isn't really
Speaker 1: like coming out of any other city. That doesn't mean
Speaker 1: that there isn't violence in any other city, but Chicago has.
Speaker 2: A certain.
Speaker 1: Chicago has a certain stinch on it that I want
Speaker 1: to talk about today. And coming off this interview with
Speaker 1: Herbo Man and just looking him in his eyes and
Speaker 1: feeling his demeanor and where he has came from, I
Speaker 1: just I gested a lot from that because I know
Speaker 1: being in a war zone isn't normal until it's normal.
Speaker 2: It's abnormal until it's normal.
Speaker 1: The shark don't know whether it's in the fish tank
Speaker 1: or in the ocean, as long as you keep it
Speaker 1: in water.
Speaker 2: Didn't know how to survive. And so sometimes.
Speaker 1: When you in these scenarios where you come from these
Speaker 1: states that's just riddled with violence, I'm so so intrigued
Speaker 1: on how you shake that because I got things from
Speaker 1: the ghetto, and residue from hustling, and residue from being
Speaker 1: told on, and residue from being betrayed that I still
Speaker 1: can't shake. I'm dealing with women now in my current
Speaker 1: life that I have to tell them on the front end. Baby,
Speaker 1: you gotta be patient with me. You gotta be patient
Speaker 1: with me, love, because I done been through some things
Speaker 1: that a normal man would have broke him down. It
Speaker 1: would have broken, it would have broken in pieces, it
Speaker 1: would have shattered it. And when you shatter something, it's
Speaker 1: way way worse than just breaking it. Because you can
Speaker 1: fix a break, you can fix a crack, you can
Speaker 1: fix a hole, but when you shatter it, it breaks
Speaker 1: it in pieces, it destroys it. And so my confidence
Speaker 1: in certain aspects of human behavior has been, for lack
Speaker 1: of a better term, shatter.
Speaker 2: And I try not to wear it on my sleeve.
Speaker 1: But when you get into my personal life and we
Speaker 1: are intimate and we're around each other, I say, baby,
Speaker 1: be patient with me.
Speaker 2: They done done a number on me.
Speaker 1: But I left that with my hustle, and I left
Speaker 1: there with my mind intact. I might then lead that
Speaker 1: with love, with an understanding of love. I might then
Speaker 1: lead a ghettover with an understanding of a friendship. I
Speaker 1: might not left the ghettover the understanding of nothing else.
Speaker 1: But I left with my hustle, my mind intact, and
Speaker 1: everything that the ghetto have taught me. I got the
Speaker 1: tools you can use. Yeah, I got the tools you
Speaker 1: can use. So I just asked that people who are
Speaker 1: dealing with me on a level outside of this entertainment
Speaker 1: or outside of right dealing with me intimately.
Speaker 2: And that just doesn't mean sex. That means if we.
Speaker 1: Talk regularly, if you see me start to veer off
Speaker 1: and get confused about some of the things I'm seeing, right,
Speaker 1: you gotta be patient with me.
Speaker 2: I've been through hell.
Speaker 1: I got residue from the underworld, real life residue. That's
Speaker 1: the reason why a lot of people see me by
Speaker 1: myself and they wonder, man, dude, be Byselm.
Speaker 2: You know, I can't even help it. I can't even
Speaker 2: help it.
Speaker 1: I'm in a situation where I can't even help the
Speaker 1: fact that they've shut up my trust of people.
Speaker 2: But again, thank you guys, man. I think we got
Speaker 2: so much we can talk about. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: I'm only gonna do two or three topics because again,
Speaker 1: I'm just I want to get back in the groove
Speaker 1: of things, so you guys can just kind of be
Speaker 1: in the flow with me. Of course, did it just
Speaker 1: beat the verdict? I don't know how people are feeling
Speaker 1: about that. If you haven't seen the doctor Umar Johnson
Speaker 1: interview we just dropped. Make sure you go see that.
Speaker 1: I see all the dialogue. Try to drop. He is
Speaker 1: right after ours because he probably seen it getting so
Speaker 1: much traction, right, I get to look at at things
Speaker 1: like that. I really don't understand what's going on, but
Speaker 1: you know, it's competition. It is what it is, so
Speaker 1: we'll just keep it moving. But Diddy has beat the
Speaker 1: RICO charges for people who are underwa did. He was
Speaker 1: arrested and just went to trial. He had a number
Speaker 1: of charges, six trafficking to engage in prostitution. He had
Speaker 1: a RICO charge and a couple of other charges. The
Speaker 1: charges that carried the most sufficient time were the RICO
Speaker 1: and that charge was found not guilty by a.
Speaker 2: Jury of its peers.
Speaker 1: I always kind of felt like the end goal was
Speaker 1: to seize the assets, take the houses, because if they
Speaker 1: can say and prove that you were having these quote
Speaker 1: unquote freakouts in those cribs and prostitutions in those cribs,
Speaker 1: and you were running a rico enterprise and using these
Speaker 1: cribs to kind of do some of that, they can
Speaker 1: take those things and seize those assets. And I always
Speaker 1: knew that I brought that up with doctor Umar well
Speaker 1: before anyone in the general public started to have their conversation,
Speaker 1: because number One, I've been in a situation where I've
Speaker 1: had things seized from me by being involved in, you know,
Speaker 1: a low level drug deal in which I was told
Speaker 1: on and then you know, I had to sign over
Speaker 1: some money and a couple of cars and things like that,
Speaker 1: and so they seized the assets as part of the
Speaker 1: guilty verdict. And I kind of understood that that RICO
Speaker 1: hanging over him was a very very heavy charge and
Speaker 1: it had some gravity attached to it. That basically would
Speaker 1: have made his fortune and his life earnings disappear and
Speaker 1: going to the hands of the federal government.
Speaker 2: And so I watched that with a close eye.
Speaker 1: Have you noticed I haven't covered the ditty stuff a
Speaker 1: lot because I never want to get in the way
Speaker 1: of victims, and I never want to seem like I'm
Speaker 1: victim shaming or I don't believe victims because we're in
Speaker 1: a climbing right now where they can misrepresent some of
Speaker 1: the things that you say. And I just I want
Speaker 1: to play clean ball, you know what I'm saying. I
Speaker 1: don't want to get down there in the mud and
Speaker 1: the bush league and play those kind of games. And
Speaker 1: so my heart still goes out to the victims. And
Speaker 1: people have been involved with being a victim of domestic
Speaker 1: violence or otherwise.
Speaker 2: Right, we come from.
Speaker 1: A place where, if don't nobody know, I know firsthand
Speaker 1: that relationships are hard. Love is much more harder than
Speaker 1: people can imagine. I think the reward that comes from
Speaker 1: love because humans need love, humans need companionship, and so
Speaker 1: the reward average can outweigh the risk up until you
Speaker 1: get to a certain level. And I think sometimes you'll
Speaker 1: have black men that can feel like we're under attack,
Speaker 1: and so you start to weigh the risk and reward
Speaker 1: factor and you say, damn yeah, Like we may fall
Speaker 1: in love and average and have a great time, but
Speaker 1: any event you fall out of love with me, any
Speaker 1: event that things go left, that can cost me everything.
Speaker 1: And so sometimes we become apprehensive or have some arrested
Speaker 1: development as it pertains to love and not really want
Speaker 1: to engage in a high level relationship.
Speaker 2: Or someone pours in you. Because also women get bitter
Speaker 2: when they pulling the men and it don't work. Like
Speaker 2: I've saw women spend ten years of their life with
Speaker 2: a man and they hate him more than they could
Speaker 2: have ever loved him when they was together. And it
Speaker 2: ain't because anything changed about him. It's because it didn't
Speaker 2: work out in her favor or his favor.
Speaker 1: And so the residue and the damage that relationships can
Speaker 1: do can always keep you apprehensive. And I pray healing
Speaker 1: over people who have been in bad relationships, who have
Speaker 1: been betrayed by people who they once loved.
Speaker 6: Right.
Speaker 2: I know guys that have babies with individuals that want
Speaker 2: to see them fail.
Speaker 1: I could never want to see the mother of my
Speaker 1: children fail, because that in turn hurts my kids. But
Speaker 1: I do know that there are some women out there
Speaker 1: that do want to see their baby fathers fail and
Speaker 1: fall on his face and look dumb to the public.
Speaker 1: And for me, that says a lot about your characteristics.
Speaker 1: You put the man in a hard place because sometimes
Speaker 1: sometimes the man wants to respond and he wants to
Speaker 1: be just as vindictive as you. And then you look
Speaker 1: at your kid and you say, I can't even do
Speaker 1: it because in fifteen years, how does that look to
Speaker 1: my son? How does that look to my daughter? What
Speaker 1: does that mean to the relationship between my son and
Speaker 1: his mother, my daughter and his mother? Right, it just
Speaker 1: I don't know how to really put it. But does
Speaker 1: a weird fascination that I see on the side of
Speaker 1: some women that want to ruin the relationship between the
Speaker 1: father and the son.
Speaker 2: I just bro listen, my heart, my heart is. It
Speaker 2: hardens my heart.
Speaker 1: It makes my heart black when I see a woman
Speaker 1: go out of that way to try to ruin the
Speaker 1: relationship between a man. And you know, it really really
Speaker 1: does something to my spirit. And I wonder, and I
Speaker 1: want to ask God, why doesn't he step in? Those
Speaker 1: are the times like I rarely ask God anything I
Speaker 1: rarely question God. I rarely put God back against the
Speaker 1: ropes for lack of a better term, and ask him, God,
Speaker 1: where are you when these.
Speaker 2: Things are taking place?
Speaker 1: Age when a man is put everything he has on
Speaker 1: the line for the family and she want to.
Speaker 2: Ruin the family.
Speaker 1: If once this same woman help you create life, now
Speaker 1: she's trying to destroy your life.
Speaker 2: God, where are you in these scenarios?
Speaker 1: Why haven't you ripped the tongue of some of these
Speaker 1: women or some of these men that are going out
Speaker 1: of their way to slander instead of being a co
Speaker 1: parent and trying to coexist.
Speaker 2: They want to destroy.
Speaker 1: They want to deploy hatred on a man that has
Speaker 1: to look at their seed and just try to keep
Speaker 1: smiling and act like that they're not bothered by those scenarios.
Speaker 1: I pray for the men out that it's going through that.
Speaker 1: I pray for the women out that it's going through that.
Speaker 2: One thing. I know.
Speaker 1: As it pertains to me, You know, I try to
Speaker 1: keep myself out of harm's weight. I don't want to
Speaker 1: ever alter the relationship between my kid and their parents.
Speaker 1: See back in the eighties and even maybe the early
Speaker 1: nineties and even now right there is a place where
Speaker 1: some people are not in that kid's life, and there's
Speaker 1: a place where some people deserve to be held accountable
Speaker 1: for what they're not doing as it pertains to their child.
Speaker 1: But to try to destroy someone that you once loved,
Speaker 1: for me is just it is mind boggling. Never really truly, truly,
Speaker 1: truly understanding. But that's a horse of a different color,
Speaker 1: you know, that's a book of a different cover. So
Speaker 1: we'll get to that at some other point. But I
Speaker 1: do want to get back to Diddy a little bit.
Speaker 1: Diddy as like I was saying, Diddy beat the rico charge.
Speaker 1: I want to look at a little bit of this
Speaker 1: interview with Jeene Dial as he talks about Diddy beating
Speaker 1: the rico. Geen Dial, if you asked me, were instrumental
Speaker 1: in how this entire rico started. And I want to
Speaker 1: be clear, there's a lot of media in real time.
Speaker 1: You see them flip.
Speaker 2: They were part of the beginning of this and at
Speaker 2: the end of this now they're like, yeah, man, he
Speaker 2: ought to be at man. Yeah nah.
Speaker 1: They were trying to hang a black man. And I'm
Speaker 1: sitting back saying, yo, all of you need was helping
Speaker 1: the investigation y'all were propping up people who were speaking
Speaker 1: about this man's personal life, his sexual fantasies, things he
Speaker 1: would do inside and outside of the bedroom. And all
Speaker 1: of a sudden, now y'all support did it. This is
Speaker 1: what I was speaking about, how fake the industry is.
Speaker 1: And you can't even say nothing, you can't even act
Speaker 1: like you see it. You just got to keep it
Speaker 1: moving like yod fo here crazy for real. But I
Speaker 1: want to look at a little bit of this gene
Speaker 1: deal conversation. I have not seen it, so we're just
Speaker 1: gonna see a little bit of what he said as
Speaker 1: it pertains to this interview.
Speaker 8: And you people are here celebrating man, Yo. Check it out.
Speaker 8: They are celebrating, but he's still.
Speaker 2: Going to jail.
Speaker 8: You understand they celebrate yo, this Yo, I was thinking
Speaker 8: about some stuff I said, Yo. They celebrating for a
Speaker 8: psychotic narcissist, a social path, sex offender, abusing and degrading women,
Speaker 8: beaten on them, brother and having them appease him. And
Speaker 8: it's homosexual tendencies.
Speaker 2: Now, one thing I want to point out really quick.
Speaker 2: You know, you know we are the head out the tail,
Speaker 2: you understand me. Were the people that kind of peep
Speaker 2: the game. Now, pay attention to this dude. He's reading something. Now.
Speaker 1: I don't know if someone has ridden him a monologue
Speaker 1: to say when he gets on his platform, if he's
Speaker 1: been instructed on how to frame these things or give
Speaker 1: context setting what he's about to say. But if you're
Speaker 1: speaking from the hard and you were this involved in it,
Speaker 1: because this guy was involved in it, and I got
Speaker 1: Gene Deal number, I was gonna put gen Deal on
Speaker 1: the platform. Then I told myself, no disrespect to Gene Deal.
Speaker 1: I was gonna put him on the platform. And I
Speaker 1: told myself, yo, what I look like bringing that dude
Speaker 1: on the platform to speak about Diddy being some kind
Speaker 1: of sexual DV. I just I don't want to be
Speaker 1: a part of telling nobody down.
Speaker 2: Now.
Speaker 1: Holding people accountable is one thing, and I think the
Speaker 1: court process had as he had his day in court
Speaker 1: and they found what they found, which he was guilty
Speaker 1: on two charges. But I had several opportunities to fly
Speaker 1: Gene Deal down, get him on the show and speaking.
Speaker 1: Now I might actually speak to him and push back
Speaker 1: on some of his finding some of the things he said,
Speaker 1: because when I noticed when they go on some of
Speaker 1: these platforms, and I believe that's kind of what makes
Speaker 1: us unique in the market, is that when you come
Speaker 1: on my platform and we have their relationship, I'm able
Speaker 1: to push back and I'm able to have a real
Speaker 1: dialogue about some of the demonstrations that you put out
Speaker 1: to the public. And sometimes we come to find out
Speaker 1: that there's a lot of dysfunction in your die try
Speaker 1: in your dialect, you see. And with Gene dial you know,
Speaker 1: my next question would have been to him out of
Speaker 1: this would have been, now, what are you reading? Did
Speaker 1: you write that? Did someone else write there?
Speaker 6: Like?
Speaker 1: That would have been the first thing I wanted to know,
Speaker 1: because again, I'm just an organic, real person. I don't
Speaker 1: take notes. I don't dance unless I like the music,
Speaker 1: you understand. So I'm just one of those kind of guys.
Speaker 1: And I think this Diddy trial showed me so much
Speaker 1: as it pertains to how media works. And I'm in
Speaker 1: the midst of it, and I didn't even eat off
Speaker 1: of it. Trust me, A lot of people made a
Speaker 1: lot of money off this Diddy thing, same way with
Speaker 1: young thugs. And this is what I say about those
Speaker 1: guys in entertainment or going through some of the harsh
Speaker 1: darknesses that they have walked through. They are to throw
Speaker 1: a bone, or they are to give an allie oop,
Speaker 1: or they are to center thank you or head now
Speaker 1: to some of the guys who are out here trying
Speaker 1: to comb through the bullshit and not just position narratives
Speaker 1: to get the views and eat and.
Speaker 2: Eat and eat right, because that's so.
Speaker 1: Many times where Yo, you do an interview with Jean
Speaker 1: Deal and you got my kind of platform three hundred
Speaker 1: four hundred, five hundred k easily easily, especially if I
Speaker 1: don't push back and I kind of just let him talk.
Speaker 1: The same with the young thug situation, like these dudes
Speaker 1: go to jail, you bring people along from the opposite side,
Speaker 1: let them task moundfut and say this and that you
Speaker 1: can actually make a living like that, brother. And some
Speaker 1: people have integrities so they won't do it. And I
Speaker 1: happen to be one of those guys. But according but
Speaker 1: looking at this Gene Deal situation, the first thing I
Speaker 1: would have asked, was, Yo, is anybody writing this for you?
Speaker 2: What is that? What's going on? But in media, they
Speaker 2: don't give a They just want the views.
Speaker 1: They just want to keep building the platform, right, They
Speaker 1: don't care nothing about if you've been told what to say, if.
Speaker 2: You lying, if you're telling the truth.
Speaker 1: Because I also find an interest in that the Fearz
Speaker 1: never brought gene dal along all of it, the hours
Speaker 1: and hours of conversations and allegations that he's been able
Speaker 1: to put down on interview after interview and after interview,
Speaker 1: and the Fares didn't bring him in for one thing.
Speaker 2: But guess who will bring him right back? These platforms.
Speaker 1: They'll bring him right back even if the Fares don't
Speaker 1: find him credible enough to put him on the stand
Speaker 1: while they're trying to send a man to jail rightfully
Speaker 1: or wrongfully. But they don't find him to be credible
Speaker 1: enough to be on the stand. But guess what he's
Speaker 1: credible enough to do, get on these platforms and get
Speaker 1: hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of thousands of yews. So
Speaker 1: I may have a conversation with Jeane dial coming soon,
Speaker 1: just because I want to push back on a little
Speaker 1: bit of what he has put out there, and I
Speaker 1: didn't want to do it in the midstter court.
Speaker 2: But pay attention.
Speaker 8: By letting random men, prostitutes, mal prostitutes, brother ejaculate, they
Speaker 8: sexual juices on them so he can lick them off.
Speaker 2: Is this what's.
Speaker 8: Happening in the hood now?
Speaker 2: Is that's what's good in the hood? Tell me?
Speaker 8: Is that what's happening in the streets, brother, is that's
Speaker 8: what the industry that came down to. Now they celebrating them.
Speaker 8: This is what this man is. I talked about his character, Broh.
Speaker 2: In court.
Speaker 8: We heard stuff that came up that none of us know.
Speaker 8: They out here celebrating YO and talking about YO. What
Speaker 8: gin't gonna do now? How Jean feel?
Speaker 2: Now? Jean Good in the hood.
Speaker 8: I could go open up my refrigerator anytime I want to.
Speaker 2: Jan' Good in the hood.
Speaker 1: No one is celebrating or defending Diddy and some of
Speaker 1: the things that came out in court, even some of
Speaker 1: the charges that he's found guilty on. I think what
Speaker 1: people are celebrating, or not even much so celebrating.
Speaker 2: I think what.
Speaker 1: People are intrigued with and somewhat happy about, is that
Speaker 1: the fact that they didn't get to not only send
Speaker 1: that man to jail for the rest of his life
Speaker 1: for being quote unquote freaky, because even with what he
Speaker 1: just said, there's a bunch of freaky shit that's going
Speaker 1: on I don't co sign all that. Yeah, I don't
Speaker 1: need all that. Yeah nah, I don't. Yeah nah, I don't.
Speaker 1: I don't even want all that going on in my
Speaker 1: bedroom or my bathroom. You hit me, Yeah nah, I
Speaker 1: don't need no whole bunch of a baby or sitting
Speaker 1: in hot water in my bathroom. So we ain't celebrating,
Speaker 1: and people are not intrigued so much with that side
Speaker 1: of it, but they blurred their lines. And there's also
Speaker 1: a conversation out there where people are saying that they're
Speaker 1: shaming victims by celebrating a quote unquote win number one did.
Speaker 1: It still has to go to centicing, and I think
Speaker 1: that process is gonna be a lot harder than what
Speaker 1: people are considering because the fiss don't like to have
Speaker 1: egg on their face and they don't like to lose.
Speaker 1: But I do want to say this, what people are
Speaker 1: intrigued with or paying attention to with this Diddy thing
Speaker 1: is it's kind of twofold one. Is they hit him
Speaker 1: with the rico charge and he was just one person.
Speaker 1: So in the history of the RICO I'm not even
Speaker 1: sure that it's been applied in that way. It's almost
Speaker 1: like they misused the law in that particular situation. And
Speaker 1: we also know the RICO to have a high percentage
Speaker 1: or a high conviction rate in particular with the Fed.
Speaker 1: So there's people who are paying attention and saying, yo,
Speaker 1: they hit him with the RICO and it's the FIZ
Speaker 1: and he didn't get found guilty on that, And so
Speaker 1: your history plays into account. The Feds have this Mike
Speaker 1: Tyson like knockout punch. When they get you, bro, it's gone.
Speaker 9: Bro.
Speaker 2: They got a ninety eight percent conviction.
Speaker 1: Rate in this that right, and they play games, you know,
Speaker 1: if people that's in jail with the nine twenty two
Speaker 1: g and in certain situations in federal government, in federal
Speaker 1: court where you say, boy, you supposed to beat that,
Speaker 1: but you don't get a chance to beat it because
Speaker 1: of the way the laws are ridden and applied. So
Speaker 1: I believe that people are surprised that Diddy was able
Speaker 1: to overthrow the charges that were.
Speaker 2: Threw at him.
Speaker 1: It ain't that co signing that he had baby oil
Speaker 1: and man juice and he wanted to do this and
Speaker 1: that with casting. It ain't that people are saying that
Speaker 1: people are saying, is yo, they came for that, dude.
Speaker 1: It's like when you first saw sug Knight get into
Speaker 1: a fight and some knocked sug Night out, or if
Speaker 1: a knock Mike Tyson out in his prime, it's like,
Speaker 1: oh shit, we ain't never expect what I saw the
Speaker 1: whole industry give up on did it?
Speaker 2: The entire industry said he was done.
Speaker 1: Now, this doesn't exonerate did it of being an asshole,
Speaker 1: a domestic violence perpetrator, cause that don't do right by
Speaker 1: his business. I can't say he do or he don't,
Speaker 1: but I can say that are not guilty in court.
Speaker 1: Doesn't exonerate some of the experiences that people have had
Speaker 1: with Diddy. If you ask me, that's not what they're
Speaker 1: a positioning this ass. What they're saying is, yo, Mike
Speaker 1: Tyson and his prime came for dude and he knocked
Speaker 1: him out. And so I think the people on the
Speaker 1: other side of the conviction, the ones that were hoping
Speaker 1: for maybe a guilty verdict on all charges, I think
Speaker 1: he can come off and it has a bad taste.
Speaker 1: It leaves a bad taste in their mouth when people
Speaker 1: are saying, Wow, that dude beat the fizz, knowing that
Speaker 1: all of his ass sets his fortune and his life
Speaker 1: Earnest would have went with the federal government.
Speaker 2: The stakes were extremely high.
Speaker 1: The rush you get when you gambling and you're a
Speaker 1: degenerate gambler, you like Aiden Ross and some of the
Speaker 1: that a better five million in a day, yo, you
Speaker 1: get a rush when the stakes are high. That what
Speaker 1: people invested in this case from a level that I
Speaker 1: couldn't even understand.
Speaker 2: And so the stakes were extremely high.
Speaker 1: People understood that the fifty million dollar house in la
Speaker 1: was coming with the fizz, the fifty million dollar crib
Speaker 1: in Miami was coming with the fez, the jet was
Speaker 1: coming with the fez. Even did he understood that? That's
Speaker 1: why he was trying to liquidate some of it before
Speaker 1: they actually charged him. As he was getting closer to
Speaker 1: selling those things, they moved in because they know, oh,
Speaker 1: he trying to liquidate some of this shit that he
Speaker 1: know gonna come with us. And then the question becomes,
Speaker 1: it's the bad boy catalog coming with him? If they
Speaker 1: would have convicted of Rico. So again, the stakes were
Speaker 1: extremely high. I just don't want people to blur the line,
Speaker 1: especially as it pertains to me. I'm not here sympathizing
Speaker 1: with Diddy. I'm not here shaming victims. I'm here saying
Speaker 1: the Fez came after that boy, and he beat the Fez,
Speaker 1: and if you asked me, that was a tall task,
Speaker 1: that was a hard sale. In particular, at the beginning
Speaker 1: of this case, you saw people that worked for Diddy
Speaker 1: gave up on him.
Speaker 2: You saw companies that he.
Speaker 1: Gave a lifeline, started to speak about things that could
Speaker 1: have helped the federal government put him away. But they
Speaker 1: applied to Rico law, if you asked me, in a
Speaker 1: way that just wasn't gonna be conducive to the charges
Speaker 1: that they presented or the evidence they presented. And so
Speaker 1: again I want to make that clear. I'm not saying
Speaker 1: or I don't think for the most part, and I
Speaker 1: can't speak for everyone, but I don't think people are
Speaker 1: intrigued with the fact that Diddy is a freakazord and
Speaker 1: got with these men and male process to that shit
Speaker 1: don't go away. He still gotta have a conversation about
Speaker 1: that when he gets out of there.
Speaker 2: That don't just go on the back burner. I don't think.
Speaker 1: People are intrigued with that as much as they all
Speaker 1: with every person I see the Fez get they get
Speaker 1: a conviction, I ain't never saw nobody beat the Fiz.
Speaker 1: The mob couldn't beat the Fizz. The mafia couldn't beat
Speaker 1: the Fed, Yo, bru. Beating the Fez is a tall task.
Speaker 1: Let's not act like it's almost like beating Michael Jordan
Speaker 1: in his prime when they won seventy two games in
Speaker 1: seventy three games, Like come on, when he went back
Speaker 1: to back. Had Clyde drex let the Houston Rockets beat him,
Speaker 1: then it would have been a conversation for Ages. This
Speaker 1: man just beat them on the rico charge. In the rico,
Speaker 1: you gotta also understand the law. The RICO is not
Speaker 1: a law that you necessarily have to have a lot
Speaker 1: of evidence. As it pertains to the Feds. To convict on,
Speaker 1: you have to have predicate act. And if you ask
Speaker 1: the federal government, it seems like they believe they presented
Speaker 1: their case in a way where Yo, we presented four
Speaker 1: to five predicate accent. All you need is too to
Speaker 1: convict on the RICO. So them losing that case, in
Speaker 1: particular with the RICO, I think is what was intriguing.
Speaker 1: Not the fact that people are saying, oh man, we
Speaker 1: co signing the fact that he liked me and do man,
Speaker 1: I don't think that's the situation, at least from this side.
Speaker 1: It ain't the situation. Let me be clean, let me
Speaker 1: be loud about that. Pay attention.
Speaker 8: So which room is mister comes It's the fourth bedroom,
Speaker 8: the master suite, down the hall on the second floor.
Speaker 8: And you took the food there. How many times you
Speaker 8: say you take the food there to.
Speaker 2: Him a week?
Speaker 8: Well, if he's in the room all day, you understand
Speaker 8: two or three times a day, or whenever he called
Speaker 8: he wanted me to make him a cheeseburger with apple sauce,
Speaker 8: whatever the case. So that's mister Cole's room. They could
Speaker 8: establish that those guns came from mister Cole's room, and
Speaker 8: under the federal law, because they was defaced, he was
Speaker 8: a mandatory ten years. They didn't even.
Speaker 2: Charge him with the guns.
Speaker 8: They had the guns in the description, but they did
Speaker 8: not charge him with illegal possession.
Speaker 2: Here's something else that you know.
Speaker 1: I was just speaking about this man, and sometimes I
Speaker 1: have a hard time. Sometimes I have a hard time understanding.
Speaker 1: And that is, you know, for Cassie, for the Jane does,
Speaker 1: for the people that were involved. I understand them being hurt,
Speaker 1: them being affected by the verdict not going that way.
Speaker 1: People that have been intimately involved and hurt by Diddy,
Speaker 1: I completely understand them having some vindictive attitudes towards whatever
Speaker 1: has taken place. But when we look at some of
Speaker 1: these guys who are on the outside of it, this
Speaker 1: is where I have a hard time. Like a gene deal,
Speaker 1: you haven't been around Diddy for quite some time. I'm
Speaker 1: trying to understand, and again, I may bring him on
Speaker 1: the platform to have some of these conversations. Why you're
Speaker 1: so passionate and wanting this man to be in jail
Speaker 1: and held accountable. And I think the opposite of what
Speaker 1: he is criticizing, as it pertains to yo, y'all gonna
Speaker 1: celebrate the guy, I think he's doing the opposite of that.
Speaker 2: Now.
Speaker 1: The behavior isn't celebratorial the same way that they are.
Speaker 2: Quote unquote happy.
Speaker 1: In his eyes, it feels like he lands on the
Speaker 1: other side of that, and he's upset that the verdict
Speaker 1: didn't go his way. And so if that is the case,
Speaker 1: I don't understand how he doesn't understand the emotional factors
Speaker 1: that are in place with this, because you're clearly upset
Speaker 1: that the guy didn't get found guilty. So the opposite
Speaker 1: of that is people being happy that he was not
Speaker 1: found guilty. And so you guys are two p's in
Speaker 1: the same part, and I don't think that either one
Speaker 1: of them are justified, because again I'm not saying be
Speaker 1: happy or mad that Diddy is in that situation or
Speaker 1: he got found guilty or not guilty. What I'm saying
Speaker 1: is I believe a lot of the coaches just intrigue
Speaker 1: with the fact that the Feds came and they were
Speaker 1: unsuccessful with the rico. This may be one of ten
Speaker 1: cases in all of history that is beating the rico son.
Speaker 1: They made the rico because John Gotti kept on whooping
Speaker 1: them with these regular charges and so that's a history
Speaker 1: behind the charge. And I just think that it's important
Speaker 1: that people distinguish the difference between what they're viewing.
Speaker 2: But it felt it feels like even with him, why
Speaker 2: they didn't charge him with the guns. They could have
Speaker 2: got him with the guns.
Speaker 1: It's like, yo, brother, why are you so invested in
Speaker 1: this man being put away for the rest of his life.
Speaker 1: You already made a lot of money off interviews. You
Speaker 1: aired out everything you possibly could have known about them.
Speaker 1: This is when it starts to feel vindictive. You ain't
Speaker 1: seen a man in ten, eleven, fifteen years. This is
Speaker 1: what scares me about being in this situation that I'm in.
Speaker 1: It's like, Yo, some of these people ain't saw you
Speaker 1: in a decade, and they still have.
Speaker 2: Come out and being like Yo, mano man. He left
Speaker 2: us on Cleveland. Man, that left us right there about
Speaker 2: the the sit go like, damn home, we ain't seen
Speaker 2: each other in fifteen years. Y'all still thinking about that.
Speaker 1: Y'all really got some hatred in y'all hard towards and
Speaker 1: you'd have made all this money from these interviews, and
Speaker 1: you still pushing the line of.
Speaker 2: They could have got him like this, they should have
Speaker 2: got him like that.
Speaker 1: And again, my heart goes out to Cassie, right even
Speaker 1: though I do believe that Cassie is in a very
Speaker 1: unique situation and we're gonna talk about that here in
Speaker 1: just one second, and any of the victims and any victims,
Speaker 1: my heart goes out to victims. But when the federal
Speaker 1: government put the case in front of a jury of
Speaker 1: his peers and they come back with a verdict that's
Speaker 1: not in your favor, and you were not sexually assaulted
Speaker 1: That's what starts to make me think, brother, where you
Speaker 1: did did he ever like? Let's have a real comment.
Speaker 1: Do you need to heal from was did he ever?
Speaker 10: Like?
Speaker 1: Because it starts to feel like that some of these
Speaker 1: people on the outside are doing more than just commentating
Speaker 1: on the trial. And if you care that much about
Speaker 1: people who you say that he is victimized, go take
Speaker 1: care of the business.
Speaker 2: You a man, You doing no interviews, ain't hpping it.
Speaker 2: Go take care of the business. And I ain't calling
Speaker 2: for the Vinus in any kind of way, but I'm saying,
Speaker 2: as a man, if you feel like somebody you love
Speaker 2: has been sexually assaulted in the federal regard like, I
Speaker 2: don't know how us.
Speaker 1: To handle it. You see what I'm saying. But it
Speaker 1: starts to feel weird. And that's weird energy surrounding some
Speaker 1: of these men. I even see ovon Vlad and salute
Speaker 1: the Vlad. I have no issue with Lad, but I
Speaker 1: see Vlad is interviewing five and six sex workers that
Speaker 1: surrounding did it? And he keep asking about the Hey,
Speaker 1: so what did he do with the nothing?
Speaker 2: Did you? Where did you ejaculate that?
Speaker 1: And I'm saying, damn, family, I get one, I get two,
Speaker 1: I get But damn we up to four and five
Speaker 1: sex workers?
Speaker 2: Men?
Speaker 1: You want to hear that much about We've heard the story, bro,
Speaker 1: We done got two three people saying this is what
Speaker 1: he doing. We know that what the boy owned, that
Speaker 1: what he doing. He own some weird shit in there.
Speaker 1: But I'm not sure what the motivation is to keep
Speaker 1: bringing up more people and rehashing the same conversation. Yeah, no,
Speaker 1: he said that too. No, he said the same thing. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna say the same thing. So what now what?
Speaker 2: You just got another up here saying the same thing.
Speaker 1: I'm like, even with Vlad, if I have a conversation
Speaker 1: with him, I really want to ask him about that.
Speaker 2: Yo, what is that about? Brother?
Speaker 1: Help me understand what the motivation? Are you that intrigued
Speaker 1: with the fact that it's already been solidified. They've already
Speaker 1: validated that that's what he was doing some weird, freaking
Speaker 1: dumb shit. Why do we need five different people say
Speaker 1: the same thing? That's my question? Pay attention.
Speaker 8: But I know this for a fact. He ain't getting
Speaker 8: no time, sir. He ain't getting no less than five years.
Speaker 2: He's gonna get.
Speaker 8: The mandatory minimum or he gonna get more. He's gonna
Speaker 8: get the mandatory minimum, or he's gonna get more, point blank.
Speaker 8: So all you people that're celebrating and want to know
Speaker 8: how Jeene Deal feel, I'm all.
Speaker 1: Right, we're gonna get off of Gene Deal. Let me
Speaker 1: say this just in response to what he just said.
Speaker 1: There is no mandatory minimum on the charges that Diddy
Speaker 1: was convicted of.
Speaker 2: That's one two. There is a possibility that he gets times.
Speaker 1: I do understand the argument that the Feds are gonna
Speaker 1: fight him getting time served. I do want to be
Speaker 1: clear about that for anyone that probably does have their
Speaker 1: hopes up, and for Ditty, I think they need to
Speaker 1: kind of center his expectations and give him some realistic
Speaker 1: expectations that listen, we're gonna do our best, but the
Speaker 1: government is gonna put up a fight. They have a
Speaker 1: twenty year window to work with. Diddy doesn't have any
Speaker 1: real criminal history that they can use against him to
Speaker 1: boost some of the sentencing up. But I do believe
Speaker 1: that they're gonna fight too for Nail to get as
Speaker 1: much time as they.
Speaker 2: Can from Diddy.
Speaker 1: I don't know how the law works if they can
Speaker 1: retry him on something else if they can bring new charges.
Speaker 1: But I am in a situation where I do believe
Speaker 1: the federal government is not happy with the outcome of
Speaker 1: this trial.
Speaker 2: Diddy as a marked.
Speaker 1: Man in the Fed's eyes, and I don't think they
Speaker 1: take this land down like they fought against the Bell
Speaker 1: when you look. Listen to the judge on the day
Speaker 1: of the verdict, because I was on the plane coming
Speaker 1: back from LA and I'm listening to the judge or
Speaker 1: listening to people read what the judge is saying, and
Speaker 1: at first it felt like he was leaning towards letting
Speaker 1: Diddy out.
Speaker 2: He was like, you don't want to go.
Speaker 1: Back to MDC, mister Combs, and did he like, no,
Speaker 1: damn show don't so for him to even have that
Speaker 1: conversation in that line of questioning, That's what I always
Speaker 1: tell people that pay attention to the questions. The line
Speaker 1: of questioning can kind of tell you what someone hard
Speaker 1: and mind lies, and it's very important that you are
Speaker 1: intuitive enough to pick up on some of the stuff
Speaker 1: that they're putting down in particularly in that situation. I
Speaker 1: felt this though, that he was leaning towards letting him
Speaker 1: out on the bond if it was just him, but
Speaker 1: then the FIZ came back with their documents and the
Speaker 1: fact that he basically admitted to being a domestic abuser.
Speaker 1: Part of his defense in the courtroom was, Yo, this
Speaker 1: dude is an asshole. He's a violent man, but he's
Speaker 1: not charged with being a violent man. They're charging him
Speaker 1: with running a RICO conspirator that they're charging him with
Speaker 1: racketeering and rico and some of these crimes that just
Speaker 1: doesn't fit the bill. And so they kind of used
Speaker 1: that to their advantage and they paid the price for
Speaker 1: using that here on a bond hearing. But again, without that,
Speaker 1: I'm not sure you can just come in the court
Speaker 1: and act like Diddy was innocent.
Speaker 2: You know, with the video going around, with.
Speaker 1: Certain things being said and testified to I think that
Speaker 1: they used the fact that he was domestically abusive on
Speaker 1: their side to kind of confuse the jury, right, saying, well, yeah, no,
Speaker 1: he was someone that will be on drugs and he
Speaker 1: would have these fights with these women and do some heinous,
Speaker 1: very heinous things women. But at the same time, that's
Speaker 1: not what he's being charged with. And so it doesn't
Speaker 1: feel like they were saying he's completely innocent, and this
Speaker 1: is a sham. It's like, Yo, he did some things,
Speaker 1: but they're overreaching. And there's a reason for the overreaching here,
Speaker 1: and it's because, you know, they want the fortune and
Speaker 1: they want they want to seize his homes and hold
Speaker 1: him liable financially. A lot of these people are coming
Speaker 1: with civil suits, right, so they they kind of went
Speaker 1: down that road, and I think some of the residue
Speaker 1: that is left over from that defense played against Diddy
Speaker 1: with trying to get a bond. The other thing I
Speaker 1: want to speak about is where Cassie stands now that
Speaker 1: Diddy has been found not guilty on Rico and also
Speaker 1: some of the lawsuits, because in the event that he
Speaker 1: was found guilty for Rico charges, it would have strengthened
Speaker 1: every single civil lawsuit that they had in place. Basically
Speaker 1: would have made it a slam dunk because he's been
Speaker 1: held liable criminally, which the bar set much more higher
Speaker 1: to deem someone guilty in a criminal trial than it
Speaker 1: is in a civil trial. So the bar still loath
Speaker 1: for a civil trial, but the fact that he's not
Speaker 1: found guilty in the criminal trial kind of hurt a
Speaker 1: lot of those civil accusations and civil suits that they
Speaker 1: have in court on Diddy as we speak, and I
Speaker 1: want to be clear about that. But here's the other
Speaker 1: conundrum that I find interesting is that Wild Diddy never testified.
Speaker 1: He never testified, so he never admitted to any of
Speaker 1: these freak offs and sexcapades. He never admitted to any
Speaker 1: of that. But guess who did, Cassie. So while Cassie
Speaker 1: was on the stand and meanting to I paid the guy,
Speaker 1: and we did this, and I did that, and we
Speaker 1: did all of these different things that we were doing
Speaker 1: in the bedroom on these hotel nights or these frea
Speaker 1: ca alls. It opens her up for the civil suits.
Speaker 1: So now what do you see. You see some of
Speaker 1: the former sex workers come out to now suit Cassie,
Speaker 1: and it's gonna be extremely hard for her to get
Speaker 1: around the testimony that she went on the stand and
Speaker 1: said about Diddy to try to nail him to the cross. Now,
Speaker 1: maybe the nails that nails her to the cross. Pay
Speaker 1: attention to this first sex worker that has came out
Speaker 1: and filed a lawsuit against Cassie, and I expect a
Speaker 1: Domino effec pay attention.
Speaker 11: So good morning, I am Dave, the man who has
Speaker 11: just sued Cassandra Ventoa for damages involved in the Shawn
Speaker 11: called sex traffic Control.
Speaker 2: And I'm looking through.
Speaker 11: Social media and I see a lot of the women
Speaker 11: out there, particularly black women like myself, who choose to
Speaker 11: victim shan't me and try to do everything they can
Speaker 11: to discredit me, because the truth is that the loss
Speaker 11: of the Shawn Colme's trial was a loss to the
Speaker 11: Me too movement into hating women like the women who
Speaker 11: are trying to insult me. So let me tell you something,
Speaker 11: you women out there who would like to insult me.
Speaker 11: This is my story. I was paid by Cassie Cassandra
Speaker 11: Ventura for eight years to be her male provider. I
Speaker 11: didn't have to be the best looking guy. I was
Speaker 11: the best in bed. And because I was the best
Speaker 11: in bed, guess what I was given this arrangement. I
Speaker 11: was coerced, I was drugged. I was manipulated with promises
Speaker 11: of money and gifts for over a period of eight
Speaker 11: years to continue to be this woman's provider at her
Speaker 11: expense and at the expensive ditty. Now, at the time, legally,
Speaker 11: I didn't know my rights as well as I do now.
Speaker 2: I didn't create this conflict with Cassandra Ventoa. She created
Speaker 2: it with me.
Speaker 11: She's the one who decided to bring up things that
Speaker 11: happened over ten to fifteen years ago to hold Seancomb's
Speaker 11: accountable for what was a partial truth. She's the person
Speaker 11: who introduced me to the US Attorney's office. She's the
Speaker 11: person who told the US Attorney's office about our relationship. So,
Speaker 11: in essence, those out there who want to hate on me,
Speaker 11: who want to say that I'm attacking Cassie, you should
Speaker 11: realize the truth that Cassandra Ventoa, your idol, did this
Speaker 11: to herself. She exposed herself to liability when she got
Speaker 11: on the stand and decided to mention me as the
Speaker 11: male escort who was with her when she overdosed, and
Speaker 11: did he made her have sex with him? That was
Speaker 11: a lie, people, Cassie had just woke up from sleeping
Speaker 11: eight hours. Myself and Shawncombs were exhausted. We wanted to
Speaker 11: go home. Cassie's the one who forced that sexual encounter. People,
Speaker 11: she tells you that Shawn Colmes made her have sex
Speaker 11: on her menstrual cycle. I can't speak for anyone else
Speaker 11: but myself, but I know the one time that did
Speaker 11: happen that Shawn Colmes was not responsible for that. Cassie,
Speaker 11: and a drunken, intoxicated, hormonally in balanced state due to
Speaker 11: her period, manipulated and forced herself on me during her
Speaker 11: mentru cycle. And what I mean by that is I
Speaker 11: had no knowledge she was on her menstrual cycle because
Speaker 11: the room was completely dark. She manipulated the room, she
Speaker 11: manipulated the environment to get what she wanted, and then
Speaker 11: she totally got like I was the one who should
Speaker 11: have been grateful you're on your period. That's disgusting and
Speaker 11: I deserved more respect than that as a man. If
Speaker 11: I had laid down with a woman and forced myself
Speaker 11: on her, hand orgasm in her and she got up
Speaker 11: and it was leaking out of her, guess what I
Speaker 11: would have raped her. So by statute by case law definition,
Speaker 11: Cassandra Vento is sexually assaulted me. I'm not looking to
Speaker 11: destroy Cassie. I've given Cassie more than a year to
Speaker 11: settle this before things got out of control. The problem
Speaker 11: is that she's being supported by women like you who
Speaker 11: would choose to attack male victims instead of accept the truth,
Speaker 11: which is that a woman could have lied to get
Speaker 11: revenge on the ex boyfriend who broke her heart and
Speaker 11: hurt her. It happens people. They say, hell hath no
Speaker 11: fury like a woman's scorn. And that's true. If you
Speaker 11: hurt some women, they will do everything in their power.
Speaker 11: If you hurt some men, they'll do everything in their
Speaker 11: power to hurt you. But I want to end this
Speaker 11: by saying this, Cassie did this to herself. They say,
Speaker 11: he who built, he who sets out on the course
Speaker 11: of revenge, should dig two graves.
Speaker 2: People.
Speaker 11: Cassie dug the grave. That is clear in Howard herself.
Speaker 11: Cassie got understand trying to destroy Diddy. She should have
Speaker 11: took her twenty thirty million dollars and walked into the
Speaker 11: sunset people. She should have never gotten understand and created
Speaker 11: further liability for herself by telling more of the lie
Speaker 11: that she created to get this man sent to prison
Speaker 11: for his life. She made a mistake when she got
Speaker 11: understand people. She made a mistake when she got understand
Speaker 11: and lied about the events with Clayton Howard. Clayton Howard
Speaker 11: is a victim of Cassandra Ventura. Clayton Howard didn't ask
Speaker 11: to be in a relationship with Cassandra Ventour while she
Speaker 11: was sleeping with numerous men per week.
Speaker 2: I get it.
Speaker 11: You all think I was a nasty mail prostitute sleeping
Speaker 11: with women, all different women all the time.
Speaker 2: It actually didn't work like that.
Speaker 11: To have certain types of people that can pay you
Speaker 11: that well, which you really have to do, is you
Speaker 11: have to focus on people who are affluent, and affluent
Speaker 11: people don't engage in activities like that. So I might
Speaker 11: have had a client once a month. The truth is
Speaker 11: I was only a male escort for two years. I
Speaker 11: continued in the profession because Cassie and Diddy continue to
Speaker 11: pay me well, and I was an ex Khan. I
Speaker 11: needed money. Yes, I was trapped in the situation. I'll
Speaker 11: admit that I didn't know what to do. But does
Speaker 11: that mean I should be victim shamed because the same
Speaker 11: thing that happened to women all the time happen to
Speaker 11: me as a man.
Speaker 10: No.
Speaker 11: And for those women out there, for you black women
Speaker 11: who choose to shame me as a black man for
Speaker 11: telling my truth, you should be a shamed of yourself.
Speaker 11: That's probably pretty much all I have to say. You
Speaker 11: will not see me too much in the media. I
Speaker 11: don't need the public to believe me. I just need
Speaker 11: a jury of my peers and twelve people to believe
Speaker 11: me in the court. And thanks to the testimony of
Speaker 11: Cassie during the Child of Seawan Colmes, I have that.
Speaker 11: Thank you for watching stop Victim Shaman's thank you.
Speaker 9: I almost puted, but let me stay focused.
Speaker 2: I ain't even gonna lie to you. Dog, I ain't
Speaker 2: gonna lie to you. I almost puted, but let me
Speaker 2: stay focused.
Speaker 9: I almost peuwed, but let me stay focused.
Speaker 2: Number one that this is what this is?
Speaker 1: What to me is what did he get these folks shit?
Speaker 10: Man?
Speaker 1: Then nigga here got the white frosts, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean? Like it's smoking back to back to back
Speaker 1: to back. Just got up out the bed, like, bro,
Speaker 1: come on, what y'all was in there doing this? That's
Speaker 1: what be freaking nasty to me, Like slim y'all was
Speaker 1: in there on some slimy shit home like y'all had
Speaker 1: these kind of in there. Man, Come on, man, only
Speaker 1: a man. I'm thinking they play us.
Speaker 3: Man?
Speaker 1: What they doing man? And shout out to the homeboy.
Speaker 1: He finnah get paid. You know what I'm saying. He
Speaker 1: definitely gonna get paid. And when I say shout out,
Speaker 1: I mean I see what he's doing. Salute to what
Speaker 1: you're doing. Cause again he's a victim as well. And
Speaker 1: again I said, my heart goes out to all victims.
Speaker 1: But I think I think that this is a cautionary
Speaker 1: tell because while did, he did not get on the
Speaker 1: stand in the mid to basically any involvement. There is
Speaker 1: hours and hours of testimony of ca being the one
Speaker 1: that paid prostitutes, linked them up, called them when Diddy
Speaker 1: wasn't there. It's going to be extremely hard for her
Speaker 1: to keep that thirty million dollars. So now at the end,
Speaker 1: there is a scenario or there is a world where
Speaker 1: Cassie may be drained of her finances that she got
Speaker 1: through this by other people like these sex workers who
Speaker 1: were involved. Because if he wins, I imagine someone else
Speaker 1: comes out, and another person comes out, and another person
Speaker 1: comes out. Because Diddy still has a fighting chance in
Speaker 1: court with some of the best lawyers in the world, Cassie,
Speaker 1: if you're asking me, has no way to go around
Speaker 1: what she testified to and the not guilty verdict lends
Speaker 1: itself to Ditty's defense, and the testimony from Cassie lends
Speaker 1: itself to her being not only involved, but a co
Speaker 1: conspirator and it came out of her own mouth, so
Speaker 1: you really there's no way to back track or backpedal
Speaker 1: or to deny those things. And I think she's in
Speaker 1: a very weird place as of now, and I know
Speaker 1: she's confused because she gets understanding things like, Yo, I'm
Speaker 1: getting on the stand, and I'm sure that with my testimony,
Speaker 1: this is gonna help do what we expected to do,
Speaker 1: which is convict him of the rico and the sex
Speaker 1: trafficking charges. And unfortunately for her, it just did not
Speaker 1: paying out that way. And I think I think it's
Speaker 1: more surprising the pool of people that they were pulling from. Right,
Speaker 1: the physical appearance of this gentleman with all of the
Speaker 1: white shit around his mouth is like, yo, y'all was
Speaker 1: in there letting then that better not kiss my girl.
Speaker 1: If he kissed it my girl, I don't want to
Speaker 1: know more. I don't even want to know more of it.
Speaker 1: If he kissed my woman, I don't even want to
Speaker 1: know more. He esthetically, I ain't rup I don't even
Speaker 1: want her no more, really can't no order, it's my girl.
Speaker 1: But in specific, man, come on, man, and he know
Speaker 1: he said, man, I ain't got to be the best looking.
Speaker 2: I was in that throwing dick. You hear me.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I was in there throwing it and she wanted it,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. But I'm just wondering, what
Speaker 1: did it? What y'all pulling from? Where y'all getting this
Speaker 1: kind of shit at? Man, this shit is some weird
Speaker 1: shit going on.
Speaker 10: Man.
Speaker 1: Again, my heart goes out to all the victims. We're
Speaker 1: gonna move on from this. This really wasn't even on
Speaker 1: the docket. I really wanted to speak about Chicago, and
Speaker 1: we're gonna get to Chicago right now. So before we
Speaker 1: roll this clip from the news up in Chicago, I
Speaker 1: just want to let you guys know what happened on
Speaker 1: A mass shooting erupted outside of Artists Restaurant in Lounge
Speaker 1: in Chicago River North, right after rapper Mellow Bucks was
Speaker 1: holding her album release party for Hollywood at around eleven PM.
Speaker 1: OR dark vehicle pulled up with multiple people inside, opening
Speaker 1: fire into the crowd. Four people, two men twenty four
Speaker 1: and twenty five and two women twenty six and twenty seven,
Speaker 1: were killed, while fourteen others were injured, some critically injured.
Speaker 1: Among these victims was Mellow Buck's boyfriend and a close friend.
Speaker 1: Police recover both hand guns and rifle casings, with no
Speaker 1: arrests yet they're calling it cowardly and possibly targeted. The
Speaker 1: venue has since been shut down pending investigation. I want
Speaker 1: to roll this clip from the news up in Chicago
Speaker 1: before we get into some of the commentary, and I
Speaker 1: send my hearts out to Chicago. We're going to have
Speaker 1: a real, real deep conversation today about this. Pay attention.
Speaker 12: So we begin with breaking news out of Chicago's River
Speaker 12: North neighborhood. That's where police say eighteen people were shot
Speaker 12: in a deadly mass shooting overnight. NBC five Sondra Torres
Speaker 12: is live for us at the Senior Chicago and Franklin. Sondra,
Speaker 12: Hey there, Lisa.
Speaker 13: We have confirmed with Chicago police exactly what you just said.
Speaker 13: Eighteen people shot, four people dead after this incident that
Speaker 13: happened here outside of a restaurant lounge on Chicago Avenue.
Speaker 13: And as I step out of the way, you can
Speaker 13: see exactly where this is located, very close.
Speaker 4: To Franklin near the l stop.
Speaker 13: And right now all you can see all that's left
Speaker 13: is the red carpet that was outside of the establishment
Speaker 13: for a party that took place last night here for
Speaker 13: a local female rapper. Now video shows a chaotic scene
Speaker 13: moments after the shooting took place, with police on the
Speaker 13: scene and people trying to get help for their friends
Speaker 13: and loved ones. Chicago Police confirmed that around eleven pm,
Speaker 13: someone started shooting from a dark colored vehicle towards the
Speaker 13: crowds that were outside again for this party that was
Speaker 13: for rapper Mellow Bucks. She is a local rapper here
Speaker 13: and she posteds on social media that her boyfriend and
Speaker 13: a friend were shot.
Speaker 2: We have confirmed with the.
Speaker 13: Mayor's Office of Community Safety that the rappers boyfriend and
Speaker 13: best friend both passed away. Now here's how people in
Speaker 13: the neighborhood near the scene reacted seeing victims in need
Speaker 13: of help, a gunfire.
Speaker 2: And then and next thing you know, a whole bunch
Speaker 2: of police officers driving by bass and the las Meyer.
Speaker 10: And Rescue traumatized.
Speaker 4: And let's just show.
Speaker 9: Now.
Speaker 13: Overnight, families have been gathering at local hospitals, including Northwestern,
Speaker 13: where there's also a chaotic scene as family and friends
Speaker 13: try to get more information about their loved ones. We
Speaker 13: know that thirteen women were shot, five men were shot,
Speaker 13: and as we said four have died from their injuries.
Speaker 13: As you look out here live once again, you can
Speaker 13: see where this is directly next to the L stop
Speaker 13: on Chicago Avenue. There are a number of surveillance cameras
Speaker 13: outside of this that may have captured exactly what happened
Speaker 13: around in lepid Clock last night. Of course, this is
Speaker 13: all part of the investigation. We know from Chicago Police
Speaker 13: that at this time they are still looking for the shooters.
Speaker 13: Reporting live from the River North neighborhood, Sandra Torres, NBC five.
Speaker 12: News, Sandra, thank you so much for that update.
Speaker 1: So as you see on the screen, mellow Bucks boyfriend
Speaker 1: was actually killed as well, and she speaks out after
Speaker 1: her boyfriend was killed in that drive by shooting, and
Speaker 1: this is what she said. She made a post with
Speaker 1: a picture of her and him, and we was having
Speaker 1: so much fun in our private little life.
Speaker 2: Couldn't leave each other. Long glue to my hip. Every day.
Speaker 2: It's not a night we ain't spend together. I'm so angry.
Speaker 2: You was woke.
Speaker 1: I had your hand until I couldn't you talk to
Speaker 1: me clearly? I don't get it.
Speaker 2: Up.
Speaker 1: Six hundred Breezy, who was just coming off of being shot.
Speaker 1: His elf speaks out and says, y'all shot all of
Speaker 1: them women in words and b words for real, get
Speaker 1: out their car and get up on your target, innocent
Speaker 1: women and kids. You get no points for that, you flats,
Speaker 1: he said, But you in words ain't had no structure
Speaker 1: of big homie. So y'all born goof is with no guidance,
Speaker 1: ain't gonna die the same goof for you being your
Speaker 1: entire life. And so you start to see the outpouring
Speaker 1: of people basically speaking to man, why would y'all do
Speaker 1: that to these young people. Here's another video.
Speaker 2: That's blood.
Speaker 1: That's blood, so you would notice that they would drop it.
Speaker 1: They were dropping their location and different things like that,
Speaker 1: which was very interesting. I don't want to play the
Speaker 1: video the actual shooting, but here here's some of the aftermath,
Speaker 1: very sad situation that I want to speak to.
Speaker 2: You.
Speaker 1: Gotta cut that out because it's a little too gruesome.
Speaker 1: Here's a post for Mellow Bucks. Also, damn Shorty, my
Speaker 1: mi dog, my brother. You know, Vante was two people.
Speaker 1: I'm so lost. I can't believe I lost both of
Speaker 1: y'all in one night. Best friend and boyfriend was tragically
Speaker 1: killed in this in this situation, and I guess today,
Speaker 1: you know, I want to have a conversation with Chicago,
Speaker 1: not even just Chicago, with our entire culture.
Speaker 6: Right.
Speaker 1: I haven't been in here in a while, so excuse
Speaker 1: me if I fum all over my words, or if
Speaker 1: I'm not as clear as I usually am. You know,
Speaker 1: I'm a little rusty with being on the microphone, but
Speaker 1: I was called on to speak as it pertains to
Speaker 1: this scenario. Number One, my heart goes out to anyone
Speaker 1: that lost their lives, the people that was affected, shot
Speaker 1: and just harmed by this situation, the friends and families
Speaker 1: of the people that even live in Chicago.
Speaker 2: There is.
Speaker 1: A stench on Chicago that you can't smell from the inside.
Speaker 1: And somewhere along the lines, you know, we're all black,
Speaker 1: we all come from the inner City, we all come
Speaker 1: from the ghetto, you know, And we hear sometimes that, yo,
Speaker 1: the hood is just the hood, no matter where you go.
Speaker 1: And the more I hear that and I understand it,
Speaker 1: and I've been all across this country, I'm starting to
Speaker 1: think that Chicago is just a little bit different.
Speaker 2: And I don't say that in a good way.
Speaker 1: And also, we got this weird obsession or this weird
Speaker 1: interaction that we have with death, with killing each other,
Speaker 1: with standing on this bullshit business. You know, I send
Speaker 1: prayers out to Chicago as a whole, because again I
Speaker 1: just interview Herbo. I'm looking forward to speaking to a
Speaker 1: lot of a lot more to people out of Chicago who.
Speaker 2: Have made their way.
Speaker 1: And trying to make that way because the mindset that
Speaker 1: you must have to have to make it out of
Speaker 1: Chicago if, in my opinion, it's a little different than
Speaker 1: anywhere else, but you got to sharpen your sword. You
Speaker 1: got to sharpen your sword man to shatter the norm. Right,
Speaker 1: A lot of people don't understand, and some of us
Speaker 1: don't understand, even black people, so I know Middle America,
Speaker 1: even the police, the federal government, a lot of people
Speaker 1: don't understand what it's like to be raised in the
Speaker 1: war zone. And you gotta pay attention to the words
Speaker 1: I'm using because I do this for a living, and
Speaker 1: so I'm not saying that people don't.
Speaker 2: Understand what it's like to be in a war zone. Right.
Speaker 2: You'll have a soldier sent to Afghanistan.
Speaker 1: It's another thing to be born in Afghanistan in that
Speaker 1: war zone and so you couldn't understand the atmosphere of
Speaker 1: Chicago in particularly if you didn't grow up there.
Speaker 2: You don't look at it with a pair of eyes
Speaker 2: that can understand the atmosphere.
Speaker 1: That's why I sit in my heart because I can
Speaker 1: talk to him blue in the face. You can never
Speaker 1: understand the intensity of living in a literal war zone.
Speaker 1: It's like living in the ghetto and you're a second
Speaker 1: class citizen in your own country. There's a dark energy
Speaker 1: and a dark power in Chicago. And that's why you
Speaker 1: will hear me reference the Dirk situation or reference some
Speaker 1: of these scenarios while I'm saying, bro, salute the chief.
Speaker 2: Keefy got out, Salute the herboy. He got out. It's
Speaker 2: like an escape room. Put the jurors on you.
Speaker 1: You ain't even asked for an We going forward around here,
Speaker 1: that's all we got around here. We make it the
Speaker 1: twenty one. That's a that's a that's a blessing. To
Speaker 1: make it to twenty one. Let alone make it as
Speaker 1: being a million. Now, let alone is making it out
Speaker 1: to get on that be in the hills, living in
Speaker 1: Calabasitia's done, move to La It's a tall enough task
Speaker 1: just to make it the twenty one in the war zone,
Speaker 1: twenty one years in Afghanistan, they call it shyrack and
Speaker 1: they pat each other on the back for catching hats.
Speaker 1: It's a very unfortunate circumstance and it's a recipe for
Speaker 1: a disaster.
Speaker 2: You expect to feel.
Speaker 1: That one to foreign territory, you know, you know, I
Speaker 1: take an eighteen hour flight as a soldier, and.
Speaker 2: Then we we're in a war zone. Now fix your mind,
Speaker 2: fix your fix your posture. We now in the war zone.
Speaker 1: But there's a different scenario when you're in a war
Speaker 1: zone and you celebrating the same war zone.
Speaker 2: Album release party in the war zone.
Speaker 1: Kids graduating in the war zone, got your first car
Speaker 1: in the war zone. Mama lived in the war zone,
Speaker 1: granted living the war zone. Cousin live in the war zone,
Speaker 1: barbecues in the war zone, played football in the war zone.
Speaker 1: You can never understand the intensity of having an intimate
Speaker 1: threat at your home. And I get it every I
Speaker 1: understand what that's like. But this, if you ask me,
Speaker 1: this has took up a couple of notches. It feels like,
Speaker 1: according to some of the reports, that someone either pulled
Speaker 1: up or a switch or something. That's another thing of
Speaker 1: why the switches are sold so and dangerous. You can
Speaker 1: shoot twenty people in five seconds, like when Rob Foe
Speaker 1: now in French Montana and them, they had that situation
Speaker 1: down in Miami. Dude got a switch and j and
Speaker 1: you just pull up and just plenty of people hit.
Speaker 1: These real bullets coming out. They sound fast like on
Speaker 1: some call to dude this shit, but these just real
Speaker 1: bullets coming out and real people being affected. You can
Speaker 1: hit eighteen innocent people. You can hit fourteen innocent people
Speaker 1: in a matter of two seconds, five seconds, ten seconds,
Speaker 1: fifteen seconds. This scenario is just a recipe for disaster.
Speaker 1: And I send the pre Warriors.
Speaker 2: Dog over Chicago.
Speaker 1: What I don't like, and someone gonna have to do
Speaker 1: something to change it, And you know, I understand it's
Speaker 1: a tall task, but I don't like that they've turned
Speaker 1: culture into a killing. You know, they have turned the
Speaker 1: culture in Chicago into killing. I can't respect that. Ain't
Speaker 1: nobody bucking the police. And I ain't say bucking the police.
Speaker 2: I ain't. I'm not encouraging.
Speaker 1: People to do anything the law and for, but it
Speaker 1: feels like that we want to play call of duty
Speaker 1: with each other and not with nothing else.
Speaker 2: It don't feel like that.
Speaker 1: It's saying, man, they just passed the law that's gonna
Speaker 1: take my mama foolstanns. Man, I'm going to handle that. Man,
Speaker 1: they just passed the bill. Man, we won't even we
Speaker 1: don't got no good books in the schools. Man, I'm
Speaker 1: going to handle that. It's just on some rap shit
Speaker 1: and on some beef shit towards each other. It's internal,
Speaker 1: and trust me, man, any event that it becomes external,
Speaker 1: the fars do something to stop it. I hear about
Speaker 1: so many killings in Chicago that's just left unanswered, just
Speaker 1: oh yeah, fourteen people were shot, but they've yet to
Speaker 1: arrest anyone. It's like, if you know that level of
Speaker 1: killing and drama is going on, then they gotta probably
Speaker 1: up some of the standards. It pertains to how they investigating,
Speaker 1: when they're investigating what they're investigating. Some of the technology
Speaker 1: needs to be used, some money needs to be deployed
Speaker 1: into the ghetto to try to intervene.
Speaker 2: Some prevention for some of these things.
Speaker 1: And it feels like a town with no sheriff, feels
Speaker 1: like a town with no big homits. And I don't
Speaker 1: know how to speak the young that they coach is killing.
Speaker 1: When we came up, our culture was getting money. We
Speaker 1: wanted some money. I don't know how to really talk
Speaker 1: to the young the coach is killing, homie. I could
Speaker 1: just give them a little bit of game that I got,
Speaker 1: but I don't know how to reach them.
Speaker 6: Average.
Speaker 1: Coming up, culture was always philosophy, right, language, food.
Speaker 2: You share certain aspects.
Speaker 1: That indicates where you come from. When we talk about Chicago,
Speaker 1: it's like get back is part of the coach.
Speaker 2: This is why I said there was a very.
Speaker 1: Sensitive subject that people were with King Vaughan in little
Speaker 1: Dirt situation, because it's sensitive to tell him that they
Speaker 1: turn that off.
Speaker 2: Dirt.
Speaker 1: Don't worry about that when it's in my culture. This
Speaker 1: getback thing is in my coat, and I'm one of
Speaker 1: the biggest ones. And again I'm not saying Dirt was
Speaker 1: involved in anything. I'm speaking about the mindset and the
Speaker 1: pressure and the gravity of coming from a place where
Speaker 1: they've indoctrinated you with the get back, with the press game.
Speaker 1: They would even say, yo, everyone, I say, he ain't
Speaker 1: got no hat, shut up, you going to heaven. I
Speaker 1: seen one of these thing going viral the other day
Speaker 1: when they said going to heaven like it was a.
Speaker 2: Disc You ain't never done nothing, You going to heaven?
Speaker 2: I said, God, leieve they don'et really confuse them, young kind.
Speaker 2: Now they got them trapped in the closet. They got
Speaker 2: him trapped in the closet going against each other too.
Speaker 2: That's what really hurts your heart when it's like it
Speaker 2: ain't about nothing. And I ain't saying that a death
Speaker 2: can't cause a war. And I ain't saying you gotta
Speaker 2: overlook death. I ain't saying that. But what I'm saying
Speaker 2: is it be about some little shit.
Speaker 1: But the mistake of making killing your culture is something
Speaker 1: that is irreparable. I don't know how you come back
Speaker 1: from that, because you pass it down to the next generation.
Speaker 2: This is what I'm saying, Like.
Speaker 1: You pass down the way we dance, the way we talk,
Speaker 1: the way we dress, the way the things we do,
Speaker 1: the food we eat, this, the holidays we celebrate, like,
Speaker 1: the philosophy, the books we read, write, the music we enjoy.
Speaker 2: You pass all of that down. That's the culture.
Speaker 1: But what do you do when they've now put salt
Speaker 1: in the kool aid? They don't put salt in the
Speaker 1: kool aid instead of sugar. So now you pass down
Speaker 1: something that ruins the culture moving forward. This is why
Speaker 1: I celebrate Jee Herbal Chief, keep little Dirk, some of
Speaker 1: the people that's made it out and trying to make away.
Speaker 1: It's because you gotta you gotta retrain your mind. It's like,
Speaker 1: we in this, but we're not of this, and we're
Speaker 1: gonna We're gonna take this to the next level. We're
Speaker 1: gonna get out of this. We got to get out
Speaker 1: of this. Some of these guys out of the head.
Speaker 1: Not to tell they the big fish. They the big fish.
Speaker 1: It's like being Mama Bell. It's like being pap Up Bell,
Speaker 1: like the big gorilla. Oh you with my children, you know,
Speaker 1: Oh you with.
Speaker 2: One of mine. You know.
Speaker 1: He come beating his chest nah me, And it's like,
Speaker 1: how do you ignore that when it's been your culture,
Speaker 1: your entire life. I send my heart to them, folks, man,
Speaker 1: I send my heart to them, folks. Lime And I
Speaker 1: know what it's like sometimes that you don't want to leave.
Speaker 1: When I was speaking to her Bo, he was talking
Speaker 1: about how like even with him, he had a scenario
Speaker 1: where you would look at things and be like, yo, nah,
Speaker 1: I can come back to the hood, Like, nah, I
Speaker 1: can pull up in the hood in my bentley. Y'all
Speaker 1: ain't running me from over here. Like it's pride in
Speaker 1: putting your life at risk instead of living your life.
Speaker 1: It's pride in putting your life at risk. Tell me
Speaker 1: any other species that intentionally put his life at risk.
Speaker 1: There's no other species in the world that intentionally.
Speaker 2: Will put his life at risk to prove some kind
Speaker 2: of point.
Speaker 1: When you see a lion, or when you see some
Speaker 1: of these things in the world that is fighting as
Speaker 1: you usually for food. These have all the food, all
Speaker 1: the resources, all the money, and go put their life
Speaker 1: on the line just to prove a point that they
Speaker 1: still got pride and ego. You fall victim to your ego.
Speaker 1: You study long, you study wrong. I can also feel pain.
Speaker 1: It's like, yo, I can't leave yet because I ain't
Speaker 1: able to take everybody with me. But you gotta remember
Speaker 1: you is in a burning building. You got to know
Speaker 1: I can I got to just better. I got to
Speaker 1: just take what I can get. I got to just
Speaker 1: take what I can get. You got to just get
Speaker 1: what mean the most to you and get the out
Speaker 1: of there. Get what you can carry and get the
Speaker 1: out of there shit. Maybe you can send movers and
Speaker 1: resources to try to like the pathway for others to
Speaker 1: get out. But some of the people who can lead
Speaker 1: the way find themselves not leaving yet because they can't
Speaker 1: take everybody with them. Say, when you in a burning house,
Speaker 1: when you know the house on fire, you might got
Speaker 1: to leave the PlayStation and the TV, and you got
Speaker 1: to grab what's really necessary.
Speaker 2: Your children, your dog, the money.
Speaker 1: You understand, you got to grab a few things and
Speaker 1: get the out of this burning building. And sometimes it's
Speaker 1: pressure that I don't want to leave little brother in them.
Speaker 1: But you can always send move us back. You can
Speaker 1: always send resources back. Say yo, Homer, I gotta go.
Speaker 1: I gotta light the way. I can't stand down here
Speaker 1: with y'all. And I ain't got nothing else to prove.
Speaker 1: I survived shot rack. I survived a ghetto, and you
Speaker 1: can't take that from me. That's a trick that the
Speaker 1: Inner City runs on. The Inner City is like prove
Speaker 1: you a gangster for what? And I really come from nothing.
Speaker 1: I really come from the ghetto. I really come from nothing.
Speaker 1: It's documented. Ain't nobody never had nothing in my family,
Speaker 1: and I done got rich. What else I got to
Speaker 1: prove average what the else I got to prove? You
Speaker 1: want me to defend the fact that I come up
Speaker 1: slinging in for what. I come up putting belt to
Speaker 1: ask for what, and I'd have made it out the ghetto.
Speaker 1: That's up the highest reward from God. I gotta honor
Speaker 1: what God done for me. I gotta honor the pathway
Speaker 1: that been lit for me, and I gotta act as
Speaker 1: Harriet Tuckman. I gotta show the underground railroad to get out.
Speaker 2: To Burning City.
Speaker 1: Because sometimes when you bury everybody cross, you would roll
Speaker 1: your opportunities.
Speaker 2: You put a Rosi in on your opportunities.
Speaker 1: You could have saved your family, but you wouldn't leave
Speaker 1: your neighborhood. You could have saved the block, but you
Speaker 1: wouldn't leave the block. The goal is to beat the.
Speaker 2: Game, not standing relation the fact that I'm still in the.
Speaker 1: Game, which one of you dumb been preaching that that
Speaker 1: ain't in my ministry.
Speaker 2: That ain't in my.
Speaker 1: Fucking ministry to be running around talking about what we've
Speaker 1: done in the ghetto and defending the fact that we
Speaker 1: sold drugs and beat the block dowing. Sometimes the proof
Speaker 1: is in the putting taste of pudding, eat the cake,
Speaker 1: and a may you looking at proof you talking about
Speaker 1: the problem is we spend too much time holding on
Speaker 1: to what we were, hold on to what we had.
Speaker 1: And I get it because coach is in what you had.
Speaker 1: Sometimes you don't want to let go of what you
Speaker 1: had because it reminds you of who you are.
Speaker 2: But I think we need.
Speaker 1: To spend less time on reminding ourselves.
Speaker 2: Who we were and what we.
Speaker 1: Are and what we're trying to be is what we
Speaker 1: need to focus on. You got an opportunity to be
Speaker 1: one hundred million dollars. Were talking about what I've done
Speaker 1: in the ghetto. I'm running around pulling up trying to
Speaker 1: push a line by some street ships in the war.
Speaker 1: That's when I knew these content creator run around pushing piece.
Speaker 1: You can't stop this kind of shit, you taking videos
Speaker 1: and spending money on you.
Speaker 2: Content creators need the bull loot.
Speaker 1: This gonna take a voice, This gonna take God, this
Speaker 1: is gonna take instruction and trying to get rich and
Speaker 1: still peddling this street shit.
Speaker 2: Can't give, can't light the way for this kind of shit.
Speaker 1: You gotta focus on who you becoming. The ghetto will
Speaker 1: trick you into trying to defend who you were and
Speaker 1: who and what you're done, and and and and how
Speaker 1: you beat the game. The game was on hard coming
Speaker 1: out of Chicago, coming out of any ghetto that they
Speaker 1: don't put the game on difficult, the difficulty all the
Speaker 1: way up, starting from zero and running up one hundred
Speaker 1: of them starting from zero and running up a honey Bunnon.
Speaker 2: The difficult is on a thousand.
Speaker 1: My mouth can't explain what your wire seating average.
Speaker 2: Don't get caught.
Speaker 1: Trying to put your life at risk to prove a
Speaker 1: point to who ain't gonna ride. If something happened to you,
Speaker 1: they gonna post RP, get whatever cloud left off your name,
Speaker 1: and gonna keep it moving. You gotta be smarter than
Speaker 1: the average bell. You gotta shatter your norm, break the tradition.
Speaker 2: I gotta go.
Speaker 1: I'm grabbing what can come with me, and I'm leaving
Speaker 1: footprints into saying, follow the footprints, Nick.
Speaker 2: If you ain't cerebral.
Speaker 1: Enough to follow the footprints, I might send for you,
Speaker 1: but I ain't coming to get you.
Speaker 2: You hear me.
Speaker 1: I might send for you, but I ain't coming to
Speaker 1: get you, because me coming put too much at risk.
Speaker 2: I didn't cover too much ground. Rap music is part
Speaker 2: to blame too, because the tradition in rap music, especially
Speaker 2: if you come from one of these seas, it is
Speaker 2: what they know.
Speaker 1: You're drilling and you're killing, and you're standing on business
Speaker 1: and you ain't letting none slide.
Speaker 2: See, they'll get you, get you caught up in the protocol.
Speaker 1: But the tradition and the protocol it works in rap
Speaker 1: because it keeps you relatable. But sometimes you lose your
Speaker 1: exclusivity being relatable to these. Don't let these trick you
Speaker 1: out of your exclusivity.
Speaker 2: I made it from the ghetto. I'm from that. I'm
Speaker 2: not of that. We in this were not of this.
Speaker 1: We gonna get out of this and be Black excellence
Speaker 1: and lead the way in the rawest form. You get
Speaker 1: stuck in their routine and rob yourself of your exclusivity.
Speaker 1: Young I stopped going to the hood and start going
Speaker 1: to the bank. I start going to the bookstore. I
Speaker 1: gotta be able to lead, not just follow. See, sometimes
Speaker 1: all these suckers can do is follow. I all these
Speaker 1: know how to do it. Follow somebody else, but some
Speaker 1: of us are leaders. In order to lead, you gotta
Speaker 1: go get some information. I got to leave. I got
Speaker 1: to go get it. The thing about me is I
Speaker 1: went and got it by myself. That's why I certainly
Speaker 1: made me. Ain't no cap on, that, ain't no rubber
Speaker 1: band around this money, you understand.
Speaker 2: I went and got it by myself. The information I
Speaker 2: dedicated myself. I got with some reals in the.
Speaker 1: Game that lifted me up, but they wasn't gonna trick
Speaker 1: me into being stuck in routine.
Speaker 2: I saw everybody feel going that way. I watched them.
Speaker 2: I watched play with the street shit.
Speaker 1: And dominate the head lies as it pertains the street talk,
Speaker 1: and every single one of them end up in jail,
Speaker 1: and that outran every single one of them. I was
Speaker 1: just watching them for nest and freedom, for this. That's
Speaker 1: my guy, Jonathan, that's my boy. We done linked a
Speaker 1: couple of times, been around each other. He know I'm
Speaker 1: a real when he can vouch for that. There's a
Speaker 1: mistake when we glorify the game that we post to
Speaker 1: separate from.
Speaker 2: He called hisself rich.
Speaker 1: And unemployed while, according to the federal government, been playing
Speaker 1: in the fraud shit, the COVID shit. Hed been playing
Speaker 1: with that shit, and his background was that you ever
Speaker 1: noticed that the name of my show is what it's up.
Speaker 2: There, Parker. If you gotta go with what I present you.
Speaker 1: As far as my business, you don't know what I've done,
Speaker 1: if I've done anything in the street, you don't know
Speaker 1: what I sold like Roloh called itself misster dog food.
Speaker 1: All this kind of shit you playing. And I don't
Speaker 1: mean no disrespect to nobody, but y'all playing. Y'all must
Speaker 1: see that's the thing I'm saying. You must be kind
Speaker 1: of slow like I'm saying, we gotta lead the way
Speaker 1: dog and not get caught in the routine. We robbing
Speaker 1: ourselves from the exclusivity putting the John Goddess on the
Speaker 1: back of our name and putting the John Wicks on
Speaker 1: our name. And now we really involved in shootings and shit.
Speaker 1: You're playing slow out there. You're playing slow ball out there.
Speaker 1: Homie the white boy that scaming his scheme and got
Speaker 1: a suit on running the business, he'll never mention it.
Speaker 1: You ain't gonna know he was involved too. He's arrested.
Speaker 1: I beat the game. Why would I lead the people
Speaker 1: to the game I beat for They can put two
Speaker 1: and two together and make it full.
Speaker 2: But sometimes all these can't do is follow.
Speaker 1: That's all they good for because they have neutralized their
Speaker 1: ability to be different from the pack.
Speaker 2: I don't even run with a pack. That's how you
Speaker 2: know I'm different than most.
Speaker 1: Don't nobody influence my protocol, don't nobody influence my constitution.
Speaker 1: How I feel is how I feel. How I move
Speaker 1: is based on the information. I don't got no emotional
Speaker 1: ties to anything outside of my family, children, and it's moneyon.
Speaker 1: I want to honey megi and I don't want to
Speaker 1: tap dands for it. You understand that I want to
Speaker 1: put the game down. I want to be one of
Speaker 1: the first that put the game down and win and
Speaker 1: get a honey mess.
Speaker 2: Not kiss rappers, ass, not kiss white folks. Says do
Speaker 2: business with everybody.
Speaker 1: But I want to put the game down and get
Speaker 1: a honey meg, the first of its kind, the proto type.
Speaker 1: That's how you break the tradition and break the generational
Speaker 1: curses that they passed down.
Speaker 2: They put salt in the.
Speaker 1: Kool aide, knowing it were supposed to be sugar, but
Speaker 1: they may do with what they had. Sometimes all you
Speaker 1: got is your reputation, and I get that, but you
Speaker 1: gotta know when that is changed Oh, now I got
Speaker 1: more than my reputation. I got my legacy.
Speaker 2: I'm living for.
Speaker 11: It.
Speaker 1: Used to be me living for my reputation. Ask me
Speaker 1: living for my legacy. These are two different things. They
Speaker 1: can live in the same place and sometimes one fees
Speaker 1: the other. But I bet not get coding. Reputation is
Speaker 1: past tens. Reputation is past tense. Legacy is what I
Speaker 1: do from here forward. It feeds my legacy. And when
Speaker 1: all you have is the ability to follow people, you
Speaker 1: rob yourself, young, hit me well, hear me out there, son,
Speaker 1: hear me out there. Don't rob yourself your chances to
Speaker 1: get away from the pack and be exclusive and make
Speaker 1: something happen for the entire culture. Don't ever compromise your
Speaker 1: exclusivity for compatible ability and put your dreams on a guarney.
Speaker 1: Ain't no average one hundred of you can't pull up
Speaker 1: on me. I don't give where you're from and what
Speaker 1: you kicking.
Speaker 2: But if it's one Chicago or it's one from the ghetto,
Speaker 2: I can go for that. Let's see if we can
Speaker 2: plug it in and make something happen.
Speaker 1: When you show up and it's fout there, you young,
Speaker 1: all watching the interview, the other day, a bunch of
Speaker 1: them a mad song. Cain't nobody come in my studio
Speaker 1: with a mad song. I don't give what they claim.
Speaker 1: Don't show up to my studio no more?
Speaker 2: And mad song? What you playing?
Speaker 1: Some kind of call of duty game may come up
Speaker 1: out my studio? You follow us, And I'm looking for leaders.
Speaker 1: I'm looking for stand up men that want to make
Speaker 1: something happen for their children, live for their children. But
Speaker 1: sometimes you get caught in it. I know it, And
Speaker 1: so I ain't just so hard on the black boy
Speaker 1: because I know he caught in some bullshit. The reputation
Speaker 1: go further than anything up there. That jersey, that jersey
Speaker 1: on his back, it means something up there. I get it,
Speaker 1: I know it, I feel it. They're trigger I know it,
Speaker 1: I feel it. But some of this shit sinceless game.
Speaker 1: Some of this shit is bullshit.
Speaker 2: Love one. This ain't everything.
Speaker 1: At some point, you gotta shut down what you was taught.
Speaker 1: Every tool you use to survive, it's useless. When you
Speaker 1: get where you're going, you gotta shut down your apparatus.
Speaker 1: You couldn't imagine moving your entire life trying to survive
Speaker 1: by way of violence, learning how to swim with the sharks.
Speaker 2: Only for one day you be pulled out the water.
Speaker 2: You was never blonging in the water.
Speaker 1: You done spend your entire life learning to swim with
Speaker 1: the sharks.
Speaker 2: This is what you do.
Speaker 1: But you get some money, you get some opportunity, they
Speaker 1: gonna pull you out the water.
Speaker 2: Now what you know how to survive on land?
Speaker 1: You and how to survive what he's thinking people and
Speaker 1: not be emotionally driven and not get tricked in the jumping.
Speaker 2: Back in the water after you have made it out.
Speaker 1: So while you even in the water, you gotta be
Speaker 1: knowing one day I'm gonna get pulled out of this shit.
Speaker 2: So I gotta get prepared.
Speaker 1: I gotta prepare myself to one day I'm gonna get
Speaker 1: pulled out of this water.
Speaker 2: I ain't gonna spend all my life in this shit.
Speaker 2: I know this.
Speaker 1: The universe said it'll be, so I ain't spending all
Speaker 1: my life going to water with I'm gonna defend myself
Speaker 1: and that's until the last day, that's until the last
Speaker 1: shell gone.
Speaker 2: At this I'm gonna defend myself. But what I ain't
Speaker 2: gonna do is get caught up in I'm gonna be
Speaker 2: in this water my entire life.
Speaker 1: Now I'm packing luggage. I'm packing luggage. You know, packing luggage, say,
Speaker 1: I plan on get where I'm going. I'm reading books.
Speaker 2: I'm trying to figure way out because I'm knowing at
Speaker 2: some point I'm jumping out this water. Somebody gonna send
Speaker 2: a life rap. I'm getting out this water one day.
Speaker 2: And that's what I was doing. I was reading, I
Speaker 2: was learning.
Speaker 1: I was getting up there goddamn day listening to these
Speaker 1: talk this high level game, because I knew one day
Speaker 1: I'm leaving the streets. I'm packing luggage. I plan on
Speaker 1: land in somewhere at some point. Average I ain't staying
Speaker 1: in this shit all my life. I don't give a fool.
Speaker 1: Couldn't figure it out. The people you respect couldn't figure
Speaker 1: it out. You need some new leaders. The people you
Speaker 1: respect stuck in the street. You need some new leaders.
Speaker 1: Then respect them boys, understand them boys and soldiers, But
Speaker 1: find you some new leaders. Man were looking for the
Speaker 1: people made it out. When I was talking to her,
Speaker 1: bow that what he was telling me about me, and
Speaker 1: I felt it in his spirit. He looked at me, Mell,
Speaker 1: and he say, man, he was a street dude.
Speaker 7: Man.
Speaker 2: He won the one Chief Keith won, the one. We
Speaker 2: know them bade it out. They made us know it's
Speaker 2: possible to get you some money on They the.
Speaker 1: Ones taught us pack some luggage. You gonna land one day.
Speaker 1: You're gonna get up at this shit one day, and
Speaker 1: that what loon here to do. And even when you
Speaker 1: stuck in the missile, you gotta fight every voice, every
Speaker 1: voice of doubt, every fucking negative thought.
Speaker 2: You gotta fight the devil's administration. I know what it's like.
Speaker 2: I'm dealing with it now and then everage.
Speaker 1: I'm fighting the unanswered cause, the unanswer messages, the left
Speaker 1: on red that follows unfollows, the unwonted silence. I'm fighting
Speaker 1: it in the midst of them thinking they watching a
Speaker 1: drowning man. Niggada already jumped out the water. I'm good,
Speaker 1: I'm more than good. I'm overly good.
Speaker 14: Nah.
Speaker 1: Nah, it's the highest level. I'm talking about supreme game,
Speaker 1: the highest level.
Speaker 2: Of game Lord one.
Speaker 1: It just hurt me to know they think I'm drowning.
Speaker 1: Then they trying not to man list not. That's what
Speaker 1: hurt me even more. It's like, oh, they think I'm drowning.
Speaker 9: I got more.
Speaker 2: Money, put up the band camp, got poking beans. Ain't
Speaker 2: no drowning man.
Speaker 1: I'm just looking for resources and help because I done
Speaker 1: jumped out the water. I'm living on land. I spent
Speaker 1: all my life underwater, swimming.
Speaker 2: With the shawl.
Speaker 1: I don't know the next move. Somebody helped me. That's
Speaker 1: the game I'm playing now. But if nothing else, I
Speaker 1: ain't jumping back in that water. If I get back
Speaker 1: in the water, they got to grab me and throw
Speaker 1: me in the water and watch me swim back to
Speaker 1: the bank. I'm gonna swim right back and get right
Speaker 1: back out the water. You're dealing with determination on my side.
Speaker 1: You ain't dealing with no puppy. You dealing with a
Speaker 1: big dog. I'm gonna make sure every single time they
Speaker 1: try to throw me in the water, I'm swimming right
Speaker 1: back to the bank.
Speaker 2: I know what it's like being on land now.
Speaker 1: I got luggage, and I tell every young pack looking
Speaker 1: you're gonna be up out of that one day.
Speaker 2: Don't get stuck in that shit. They done tricked all us.
Speaker 1: Like reputation is keen, when legacy is keen, Leave something
Speaker 1: for your loved ones in your family, your little boys
Speaker 1: to look up too. No matter what they tell my sons,
Speaker 1: my son's gonna be able to see my daddy put
Speaker 1: the work down. They get old enough to recognize the
Speaker 1: difference between the talkers and the doors. My daddy was
Speaker 1: a door. He were one of them men. He when
Speaker 1: he got it done. It's a fact. My mama grew
Speaker 1: up in the ghetto, and she done all she can.
Speaker 1: She compromised everything she had to make sure I look good,
Speaker 1: make sure I went to school with good clothes. But
Speaker 1: she never put herself in position. It's documented. Her son
Speaker 1: figured it out. It's documented them little boys. Daddy figured
Speaker 1: it out, that boy nephew figured it out. It's documented.
Speaker 1: I come from nothing. I don't got nothing to prove.
Speaker 1: As it pertains to that, don't get caught proving yourself
Speaker 1: in the arena.
Speaker 2: They don't matter. Love one.
Speaker 1: One thing I know is a low frequency. It's a
Speaker 1: low vibration. And the devil is infiltrated the ghetto. The
Speaker 1: devil is infiltrated the ghetto. And so why they're killing
Speaker 1: each other. It's always gonna be an unanswered question for
Speaker 1: me because it's something I can't understand.
Speaker 2: I understand defending yourself.
Speaker 1: I can never understand pulling up to a party and
Speaker 1: hitting and hitting people who are not involved in anything.
Speaker 2: I just couldn't understand it.
Speaker 1: And the farther i get away from the ghetto, the
Speaker 1: more information I'm getting in the high level I'm going up,
Speaker 1: and the more I'm reading, and the more I'm getting
Speaker 1: closer to God, I'm starting to realize that retaliation is
Speaker 1: a trap. There's a way to do everything, like there's
Speaker 1: a way to do anything. You hear me, You've got
Speaker 1: to remember that a war kills expectation. That's why the
Speaker 1: young don't even plan on making it out. They look
Speaker 1: at themself. Man, listen, man, I'm twenty one, I'm twenty three.
Speaker 1: I don't even know how many of them, knowing afty
Speaker 1: years old, that really grew up gang banging. I don't
Speaker 1: know a bunch of that I knew was super tough
Speaker 1: that made it to an old age. I know one
Speaker 1: real gangster that I know for a fact that wentn't
Speaker 1: put in so much work, and he spent a lot
Speaker 1: of time in jail, But he probably the oldest real
Speaker 1: gangster I know. All the gangsters died when I was younger.
Speaker 1: As I looked up too that was really them. Men
Speaker 1: that died when I were young.
Speaker 2: I attended funerals, are real big dogs. At fifteen sixteen,
Speaker 2: watching him die, who we respected, who can walk in
Speaker 2: any neighborhood, gang banging and respected around this town, didn't
Speaker 2: make it to my age, Lord one, So how are
Speaker 2: you doing anything but setting yourself up for failure down
Speaker 2: those pathways?
Speaker 6: Average?
Speaker 2: And so God put it on my heart. Chicago, Memphis, Cashville, Miami, Atlanta, LA.
Speaker 1: The whole black culture. We got some unraveling to do. Love,
Speaker 1: We got some unraveling the due. If we gonna be anything,
Speaker 1: let's be soldiers for man. Listen, man, let me not
Speaker 1: even But I'm just saying, love one. Let's not keep
Speaker 1: doing this to each other. But the new question is
Speaker 1: how do we end it? And that's something that I
Speaker 1: haven't came up with an answer to yet. There ain't
Speaker 1: enough opportunity for everybody to make it.
Speaker 2: And I know that.
Speaker 1: And that's what hurts your heart is because you know
Speaker 1: that when you get some money, the only people that
Speaker 1: has redeemed themselves is that when it got a few dollars.
Speaker 1: And he kind of understand. But the ones that's broken,
Speaker 1: they still got their jerseys on it, running around the ghetto,
Speaker 1: can't figure nothing not. It's rough to try to tell him.
Speaker 1: They turn that off. Lord, pack some luggage. Plan on
Speaker 1: landing somewhere else. You may not land where Herbo landed.
Speaker 1: You may not land what Chief Keith landed. You may
Speaker 1: not land what Loom landed. You may not lanyd what
Speaker 1: little baby landed. But pack some luggage. Plan on getting
Speaker 1: from where you at. And I don't mean I don't
Speaker 1: mean literally, I mean mentally. Spend some time on your
Speaker 1: day searching for a pathway. I remember coming up dog
Speaker 1: and this is why I don't go to funerals now.
Speaker 1: But I do think my presence is needed in places
Speaker 1: that I have retired from, because now my face and
Speaker 1: my voice is more powerful than I could ever imagine.
Speaker 1: I stopped going to funerals when I was fifteen, sixteen
Speaker 1: years old. God is my witness. I went to like
Speaker 1: ten funerals in a year. In a matter of two years,
Speaker 1: I went like ten fifteen funerals, and I just cut
Speaker 1: it off.
Speaker 2: I couldn't take no more. It was like.
Speaker 1: Losing somebody that was just business as usual, and that
Speaker 1: hurt my feelings.
Speaker 2: When I look back at it, and I look over
Speaker 2: my life.
Speaker 1: It's like bro, I can name off names where it's like,
Speaker 1: buried him, then we buried him, then we buried him,
Speaker 1: then we buried this person, buried that person. Remember he died,
Speaker 1: then he died, And you will show up to these
Speaker 1: funerals and it'll take a little bit of you every
Speaker 1: single time until it become business as usual. So what
Speaker 1: do you do when getting nothing, getting no results is normal.
Speaker 2: That's when you deal with a little boy who expectations
Speaker 2: are retired.
Speaker 1: He don't even pack no luggage. He don't even plan
Speaker 1: on never going nowhere. He don't plan on never getting
Speaker 1: out this situation. I just need to learn the neighborhood,
Speaker 1: the backstreets around here. I need to just know where
Speaker 1: Jack and them live at. I need to know what
Speaker 1: Chicago New live here, because really I'm gonna be serving
Speaker 1: them for the rest of my life. Come on, Lord,
Speaker 1: w and pack some lucky God God has the final say.
Speaker 1: My heart goes out to Chicago, my heart goes out
Speaker 1: to everyone affected.
Speaker 2: My heart goes out to our culture because.
Speaker 1: We need we need a rentalvation, we need some rehabilitation.
Speaker 2: We need people who.
Speaker 1: Are breathing life into these youngsters and tell them to
Speaker 1: pack some luggage.
Speaker 2: Man, don't put yourself in the trick bag. And I
Speaker 2: know it's easier said than done, but if it said,
Speaker 2: it can't be done.
Speaker 1: I want to move on from this and I talk
Speaker 1: about it more, maybe at some other point.
Speaker 6: Dog and.
Speaker 2: Life is life in right. And I think when you
Speaker 2: check out of the and you're watching from the bleachers,
Speaker 2: even if it's from the floor seats, the game look
Speaker 2: different to you. You can see the files, you can
Speaker 2: see the reaching. You can see boy he calling that wrong.
Speaker 2: Boy they don't practice him nothing. Boy, them folks ain't
Speaker 2: even then his mind ain't in the game. But when
Speaker 2: you in the game, you don't see all that be
Speaker 2: on the corner. I'm open, dog district, I'm open.
Speaker 1: You don't even see him, but on the floor seat
Speaker 1: saying watch the corner, that corner man always hoping they
Speaker 1: ain't never guarding him. And sometimes that corner man is
Speaker 1: I'm speaking towards the pathway of your way out of
Speaker 1: this thing. And so it's easy for us to talk
Speaker 1: about it because we're not in it. My heart goes
Speaker 1: out to the stuck in it. But at some point
Speaker 1: we got to grow up and pack some luggage. We
Speaker 1: got places to be in, things to do, We got
Speaker 1: people to see you dig pack some luggage. Young I
Speaker 1: never want to talk about this situation that happened a
Speaker 1: few weeks ago, and I was gonna let it ride
Speaker 1: and I speak to it, but I think it deserves
Speaker 1: some attention from our platform and from me in particular,
Speaker 1: seeing that I do have a relationship with BT. But
Speaker 1: I'm very disappointed in BT on a number of levels.
Speaker 2: For those who do.
Speaker 1: Not know, BT had the BT Awards a couple of
Speaker 1: weeks ago, and that was a situation where Casanet and
Speaker 1: a young guy by the name of Tyleell, which is
Speaker 1: one of Casanet's friends.
Speaker 2: These dudes both are streamers.
Speaker 1: We know Casanet is one of the biggest streamers in
Speaker 1: the world, and what he's been able to do with
Speaker 1: his platforms lends him a level of exclusivity to some
Speaker 1: of these red carbs in some of these brands that
Speaker 1: you know, maybe a lot of people want witness or
Speaker 1: be able to experience.
Speaker 2: In their lifetime.
Speaker 1: And so I've always saluted Casanet's speed Aiden Ross, I've
Speaker 1: saluted all these young guys because they've been able to
Speaker 1: make something and they're entertaining. I want to just show
Speaker 1: you guys how the industry works. And so I'm gonna
Speaker 1: break down kind of what happened that we're gonna speak
Speaker 1: about today. Recently, at the twenty twenty five B and
Speaker 1: T Awards Red carpet stream of ty Leell and his
Speaker 1: niche Sage were initially denied access, apparently due to a
Speaker 1: no minor policy and questions around invitations, even though they
Speaker 1: have been cleared by his team. After word got around,
Speaker 1: Casinet personally intervened, made a call behind the scenes and
Speaker 1: instantly got both of the men. So what happened is
Speaker 1: Tyleell is on the red carpet. He's there part of
Speaker 1: the whole Cosinet situation. And also you know he has
Speaker 1: a level of notoriety itself. But he was told that, Yo,
Speaker 1: your niece can't come on that. Hey stop pay you
Speaker 1: know you can't go has here. Hey you can't. No,
Speaker 1: this is something that you can't do. You can't bring
Speaker 1: her on the red carpet. Pay attention to this video.
Speaker 2: You know that ahead of time?
Speaker 3: And I have for you, like there's on the carpet, you.
Speaker 10: Cannot have it.
Speaker 2: I just wanted to take a picture in the carpet.
Speaker 6: You can take a picture, you.
Speaker 10: Kid.
Speaker 9: I know today we're talking about the only.
Speaker 10: People that got to Shore are icons for their kids,
Speaker 10: because they are.
Speaker 9: But you cannot have the car.
Speaker 2: Okay, okay, so should I.
Speaker 9: I'm gonna call John.
Speaker 10: At this moment right now, they're not They're never They're
Speaker 10: not respecting your uncle because your uncle, me, me and
Speaker 10: you and their eyes because you're the biggest star in
Speaker 10: the world and I'm one of the biggest stars in
Speaker 10: the world. Right so at this very moment, they're not
Speaker 10: really respecting our starts.
Speaker 4: Out of stage because it's a kid.
Speaker 10: Because watch everybody clip this right now and remember this,
Speaker 10: Remember this time they gave me and Sage a hard time.
Speaker 9: On the red carpet. You know what I'm saying, I'm
Speaker 9: not mad. I'm motivated.
Speaker 2: You fee what I'm saying.
Speaker 10: I'm not mad.
Speaker 2: I'm motivated.
Speaker 9: I'm not mad.
Speaker 2: I'm motivated.
Speaker 9: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 10: It's just kind of frustrated. Why would I fly my
Speaker 10: knees from New York to LA and I knew she
Speaker 10: couldn't reach the red card? You feel I'm saying, But
Speaker 10: I'm not mad. I'm motivated, you feel I'm saying, and
Speaker 10: we gotta.
Speaker 4: Just work hard the chat chat.
Speaker 9: Everybody's been in a W chat chat.
Speaker 2: Don't even be mad. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 10: Yat Be handled it very well. Y'all handed it very well.
Speaker 10: And it's all about It's all about how we're gonna
Speaker 10: move That's all about what we're gonna.
Speaker 2: Do moving forward. You feel me, But just remember this
Speaker 2: moment as of right now, you feel I'm saying. You
Speaker 2: heard them say that, Yo, we can't have kids on
Speaker 2: there because there's liquor. You can see this in real time.
Speaker 1: Me as a grown man, maybe not ty Lil and
Speaker 1: them they're kind of younger, so they you know, they
Speaker 1: have a certain level of respect for authority. And also,
Speaker 1: let me say this, w mindset for ty Lie in
Speaker 1: that moment, because his reaction in that moment could have
Speaker 1: ruined the entire scenario.
Speaker 2: But he just held it down even though I know
Speaker 2: he was.
Speaker 1: Affected emotionally baited in that moment because it's like I
Speaker 1: see kids on the red carpet, and so you see them,
Speaker 1: you see them in real time, BT you see them
Speaker 1: in real time with the parameters saying that, well, we
Speaker 1: can't have kids. They're separate icons and this is liquid.
Speaker 1: They definitely can't have miners, especially that one. I think
Speaker 1: that's the part that would have got me, especially this one.
Speaker 1: What do you mean by that?
Speaker 2: Love?
Speaker 1: Average, if you don't mind clarifying question, what do you
Speaker 1: mean by that love?
Speaker 2: Especially this one? What does that mean?
Speaker 15: Love?
Speaker 2: Give me a little bit more? Yeah, let me get
Speaker 2: a little more on that.
Speaker 1: Can I hear a little more about that, especially this one? Yeah,
Speaker 1: let me get a little bit more on that.
Speaker 10: You did.
Speaker 1: But he handled itself well with him knowing that that
Speaker 1: scenario didn't sound It didn't sound right. He knew that
Speaker 1: that scenario didn't sound right, So we hit up cassing
Speaker 1: that I want you to see when Casa net shows up,
Speaker 1: I want you to see what Casant does.
Speaker 2: Pay attention.
Speaker 3: But but literally could not get through there.
Speaker 4: That's crazy, he said.
Speaker 10: Listen, they said it's illegal, sad kids on the car
Speaker 10: because it's liquid, and they said right there.
Speaker 2: And then they said only icons on the carpet.
Speaker 4: They told that's glazing. Like I was gonna say that word,
Speaker 4: but I don't. I an't want to get kicked an
Speaker 4: I wanted to say more than that, but I'm not.
Speaker 11: Treating hall rooms good.
Speaker 2: I can't get rid. They wasn't let you get right here,
Speaker 2: you get read.
Speaker 4: That's crazy, like good, I can't get rid they wasn't
Speaker 4: let you get right here, you get ready.
Speaker 2: That's crazy. I couldn't get rid of change.
Speaker 10: Love me for the iron that so I said, thing,
Speaker 10: that's insane, shit, that's crazy, brood.
Speaker 4: Only I could want to try that.
Speaker 10: You go into the carpet, had us out there, they
Speaker 10: must not know we're family first, if they was like
Speaker 10: you and I wasn't gonna go, ain't that right?
Speaker 15: Say?
Speaker 6: Ain't that right?
Speaker 7: You?
Speaker 2: Yo?
Speaker 1: W consonant for real? W young W consonets line on
Speaker 1: god W consonant. Like if I'm being honest, I can
Speaker 1: even see tyleell light up.
Speaker 2: And this is what I mean.
Speaker 1: This is why I love the young more than I
Speaker 1: love these old. These older to try to be like
Speaker 1: they don't know what's going on. You'll ask these old
Speaker 1: who got some poor Yo?
Speaker 2: Can you do that for me? Oh yeah, I can't.
Speaker 1: It seem like they ain't answering for me, yo, bro
Speaker 1: y'all the lame look at these young boys. Man, salute
Speaker 1: to the young men. You understand consonant come through now, man,
Speaker 1: we that's my guy. Man, y'all can't do us like that.
Speaker 1: He grab her and walk right through.
Speaker 2: You could call some of these bro you think you
Speaker 2: can get me in contact with something and such. I
Speaker 2: be wanting to do a deal with them, and I'm
Speaker 2: a big fan, and let me see it. They never
Speaker 2: get back to you.
Speaker 1: Cosinet showed up on BT Red Corbett to someone he
Speaker 1: calls his homeboy and made sure that he was able
Speaker 1: to bring his knee, said that he flew from out
Speaker 1: of town. It don't get no really than that. And
Speaker 1: Big Loan don't do no glazing. Yeah I do hazen.
Speaker 1: I don't do glazing. You dig yeah nah nah nah,
Speaker 1: I don't do no glazing. I'm keeping a gangster. That's
Speaker 1: real love from Casanet And I appreciate that so much
Speaker 1: as a young powerful black man. Because some of these
Speaker 1: his grandfathered in or some of these old they'll play
Speaker 1: the no, look you be standing.
Speaker 2: Outside, man. They'd have told me fly up here. I'm
Speaker 2: trying to get in the thing. Stop answering.
Speaker 1: That's why if I invite you, you good bro, if
Speaker 1: I tell you to come, you love you locked in
Speaker 1: You love. I'm gonna come and get you myself if
Speaker 1: it comes down to that. I don't play these industry games,
Speaker 1: and clearly Cosinet doesn't either when it comes.
Speaker 2: To his people.
Speaker 1: But BT makes these things up as they go. BT
Speaker 1: has dropped the ball on several occasions. They seem to
Speaker 1: be culturally clueless. First, we're gonna listen to Consonette. First,
Speaker 1: we'll listen to what Casanet said, and then we'll go
Speaker 1: to Tylee.
Speaker 2: Pay attention for stuff.
Speaker 4: Nobody told me nothing. I rap six, that's that says less.
Speaker 6: Nobody was telling me.
Speaker 4: The whole time.
Speaker 16: Recently, the BT Awards happened, and while there a couple
Speaker 16: of streamers were invited in order to promote the events,
Speaker 16: that being Kyson Tyler among many others. But while they
Speaker 16: were there, tylew and specific but asically disrespected or walking
Speaker 16: on the red carpet because he was not allowed to
Speaker 16: walk with his younger sibling.
Speaker 2: He know that ahead of time, and I got to
Speaker 2: that's crazy. Bro in a carpet.
Speaker 5: Became the whole energy for stuff. Nobody told me nothing.
Speaker 5: I rap sakes not that saints less dop.
Speaker 6: It's get right here. Nobody even telling me shit nigga
Speaker 6: the whole time.
Speaker 2: You feel me.
Speaker 4: Yes, you can say.
Speaker 9: Rules are rules.
Speaker 5: Yes you can say rules are rules, but they switch
Speaker 5: when I came to the spot, So like, are you
Speaker 5: feel what I'm saying? So she is a little vendable, bro,
Speaker 5: Like she had her credentials. Tylo had the credentials, says
Speaker 5: had her credentials. Bro, I don't like how they were
Speaker 5: treated on a red carpet. It's not like they even
Speaker 5: stopped me and said, hey, Kle Like, no, no, bro,
Speaker 5: Like we got through that ship, bro, and what and
Speaker 5: what a lot of people got messed up?
Speaker 11: Is that?
Speaker 5: Like your live streaming is actually what I like about
Speaker 5: live shreaming events is like it's actually showing the.
Speaker 4: Real version of what's going on.
Speaker 5: It's showing the real moments of what people gotta go through,
Speaker 5: but people don't see it.
Speaker 10: I can't even think Kyle enough, And I'm very thankful
Speaker 10: that Kyle's ableue tough to help me and my niece
Speaker 10: Kit in the red carpet, in my mother's life, you feel,
Speaker 10: I'm saying, like, and I'm not gonna watch it. It's like,
Speaker 10: I'm so thankful KD knows that you kid, if you
Speaker 10: feel them saying, coy know that you guys know that
Speaker 10: w KI you feel them saying. But I'm way more
Speaker 10: thankful that me and Ki stuff together and he was
Speaker 10: able to show the world what happens.
Speaker 9: Every day off camera.
Speaker 10: I can't even look at y'all because that shit happens
Speaker 10: every day off camera.
Speaker 9: Game and no.
Speaker 17: And I'm not mad because I know his level to
Speaker 17: this shit. I know his levels to this shit. I
Speaker 17: know him not bigger in the program. But one thing
Speaker 17: I could say, nobody's bigger than the program. Nobody's bigger
Speaker 17: in the program.
Speaker 15: But for y'all to tell me all of those lies
Speaker 15: to try to keep this four year old off the
Speaker 15: red carpet, for Coss not to come through like I'm
Speaker 15: not gonna lie, well, he came through, and Kyle walked
Speaker 15: through the Metal Detectives with Sage because I didn't even
Speaker 15: move through the medtective.
Speaker 9: With Saves, because I went through really really really see, like, Yo,
Speaker 9: this is real, this.
Speaker 6: Shit is shit.
Speaker 10: If I'm ty little ty lier, this is a very
Speaker 10: important thing for you to do right here. You have
Speaker 10: to know your worth. I'm not I'm not fetting no
Speaker 10: hate anywhere because me personally again in my personal world.
Speaker 4: It was amazing for me.
Speaker 10: If they call again, do you take an opportunity from
Speaker 10: be easy again or do you say know?
Speaker 4: The only way you move forward? I feel like is
Speaker 4: if you get an apology.
Speaker 15: Game.
Speaker 4: That's the only way, the only way that you should
Speaker 4: ever want to work.
Speaker 10: Again in this area right here, is if you get
Speaker 10: a sincere, genuine apology for what happened.
Speaker 4: Complex. I've seen what they do with Chris. I've seen
Speaker 4: what the Complex how to do with Chris.
Speaker 10: I wasn't doing enough for with a Complex unless there
Speaker 10: was an apology and they publicly apologize to him till
Speaker 10: now we're back on good terms.
Speaker 4: That's how it should work.
Speaker 10: Something happens, it should be an apology and they all
Speaker 10: move forward.
Speaker 1: The other thing I want to speak to is that
Speaker 1: these companies like BT, you know, they want these young
Speaker 1: men's fan bases, but they don't want to actually have
Speaker 1: a relationship with them.
Speaker 2: It's almost like, we don't give about you. We just
Speaker 2: care about your fan base.
Speaker 1: And for me, that's alarming, especially for something that is
Speaker 1: named black entertainment television. Also, this is a trick that's
Speaker 1: being ran in this industry is that they put black
Speaker 1: on something, and then they don't even stand for the
Speaker 1: Black creator at all.
Speaker 2: This is part of the industry trick.
Speaker 1: Even in rep you'll hear a lie familia and family
Speaker 1: and gang and we.
Speaker 2: You know, we for life and all of that. These
Speaker 2: are tricks that people run, so you don't run the.
Speaker 1: Chicks and balances to say, well, how are you actually
Speaker 1: treating people?
Speaker 2: Are you actually for the creator?
Speaker 1: Do you care about us or just want to tap
Speaker 1: into our audience to run your numbers up even more
Speaker 1: or expand your brand equity with the young folks. A
Speaker 1: lot of times they don't give eighth about the people.
Speaker 1: They just care about the platform. Naming something black entertainment
Speaker 1: television and not even with black entertainers in a way
Speaker 1: that's conducive to where they're trying to go or what
Speaker 1: they're trying to do is very alarming. There is no
Speaker 1: value in an invite to the feasts. If they tie
Speaker 1: your hands behind your back, you just gonna smell the food.
Speaker 2: You can't do it.
Speaker 1: You're just gonna You're gonna sit there smelling the food.
Speaker 1: You can't even eat nothing, and you can't get your
Speaker 1: hands on nothing. You can't move and do nothing. You
Speaker 1: just get to smell the food that they cooking and
Speaker 1: they eating. But it's for the blacks. It's black entertain
Speaker 1: and it's black this. It's black that, yo. My pay attention.
Speaker 2: I'm glad the young.
Speaker 1: Boys expose that because that's a trick that's always being ran.
Speaker 1: I want to listen to a little bit more ty
Speaker 1: Lil before we come back with some more commentary.
Speaker 10: Pay attention some people out there, I'm their idol, I'm
Speaker 10: somebody's son. I'm a brother, I'm an uncle, and I'm
Speaker 10: a king in my eyes and my eyes. Bet, I'm
Speaker 10: a king and my eyes I'm that and my eyes
Speaker 10: I'm a kon me yes me, Tyllo, Johnny James, I said,
Speaker 10: my ain't no average bet, no bet employees to you guys,
Speaker 10: I'm a kon to myself. I'm a icon to myself.
Speaker 10: I'm a king and to myself, Yes, I'm that. And
Speaker 10: I'm gonna be honest to the to the fat out
Speaker 10: there because I didn't even get to speak to your fetis.
Speaker 10: You suck to the fat out there on that carpet
Speaker 10: that was sucking my and that told me to my
Speaker 10: face because I don't give y'all know how to go
Speaker 10: on a carpet, to set a good example, for to
Speaker 10: set a good example to the people that was watching me,
Speaker 10: and then to the set a good.
Speaker 9: Example to my niece.
Speaker 10: Of course I'm gonna keep my composure because I ain't
Speaker 10: a leader, and of course I'm gonna be a good
Speaker 10: role model to my niece. And I'm not about to argue.
Speaker 10: I'm not about to yell, and I'm not about to
Speaker 10: come out of my face in front of my little niece.
Speaker 2: That's not what you do.
Speaker 10: She's a kid and she gives she's gonna understand that,
Speaker 10: she's gonna remember that. So it's a bunch of different.
Speaker 9: Reasons, chack.
Speaker 10: While I really kept my composure, and it's a bunch
Speaker 10: of different reasons why I did not leave. Yes, they
Speaker 10: did make me feel a way, and yes, at the
Speaker 10: same time, I did feel like I was kissing that
Speaker 10: because I feel like everybody's.
Speaker 4: Giving me to run around.
Speaker 10: You feel what I'm saying. But at the same time,
Speaker 10: it was all learning experience and at the same time
Speaker 10: and it was all.
Speaker 9: Sudden done.
Speaker 10: Bat I mean to bt employees, y'all really show y'all
Speaker 10: true colors.
Speaker 9: How does it feel for a fact to tell me
Speaker 9: what she said, it goes. He looked at me. I
Speaker 9: y'all got to clip the lip at me.
Speaker 10: Literally said, Okay, I'm telling you, even if he comes,
Speaker 10: nobody's that she's not getting in.
Speaker 9: Nobody can get her in.
Speaker 10: I want somebody to make an edit and say a
Speaker 10: few moments later, Hostage.
Speaker 9: A few moments later, Hostage.
Speaker 4: Please, can somebody please make a edit?
Speaker 9: I hope it's in the reddit.
Speaker 10: I hope it's in the reddit because I'm gonna do
Speaker 10: a few reactions that I'm getting over you feel.
Speaker 9: I'm saying, I got ship claif my father did, and.
Speaker 2: I will be at the.
Speaker 9: NBA draft.
Speaker 6: It ain't.
Speaker 9: Yo. I'm not gonna lie on my life.
Speaker 10: Chat.
Speaker 9: I'm not gonna lie on my life. And it's like,
Speaker 9: I'm so thankful God knows that you could if you
Speaker 9: feel them saying, Cad know that you guys know that
Speaker 9: w Ki check you feel what I'm saying. But I'm
Speaker 9: way more thankful that me and Ki.
Speaker 10: Stuck together and we was able to show the world
Speaker 10: what happens every day off camera. I can't even look
Speaker 10: at Chap because that happens every.
Speaker 9: Day off camera.
Speaker 15: Game.
Speaker 17: It ain't everything on.
Speaker 7: My mother's life. That shit happens every day off camera.
Speaker 7: Every day off camera, that happens.
Speaker 9: Bro, they're gonna tell me.
Speaker 10: Somebody whispered to me and said, Bro, this is not
Speaker 10: I think you should entrigue because this is not gonna
Speaker 10: be a good look for brands out there in the future.
Speaker 9: No, I'm not gonna entreme one and two.
Speaker 10: It's not gonna be a good look for be et
Speaker 10: staff and employee employees in the future.
Speaker 14: That's what It's not gonna be a good look for
Speaker 14: for you guys to say. For that's it for y'all
Speaker 14: to say, for you guys to say, for you guys to.
Speaker 10: Say, only icon kids could come on the carpet, says
Speaker 10: cannot come on a carpet because this alcohol the icon
Speaker 10: ca it's that can come. We got this, they got
Speaker 10: to approve beforehand. And it's four people kids. If I
Speaker 10: remember her name, I think they said Mariah Carey. I
Speaker 10: forgot who they said. It was so much different, so
Speaker 10: much different scenarios. It was so much different things being
Speaker 10: told to me. It was so much different.
Speaker 9: Oh, she can't come in the cart because this says
Speaker 9: she can.
Speaker 10: Come in the car because this, because this, because this,
Speaker 10: because that.
Speaker 9: Because this.
Speaker 6: For consa that.
Speaker 10: To do this, for constant that, to do this, Constant
Speaker 10: that walked into that carpet, like Lebron walking into the
Speaker 10: walking into the Celtics stadium game six, Constant that walked
Speaker 10: into that carpet. God, bring their kids, tend securities are
Speaker 10: not cameras. God, go ahead, Where how are all these
Speaker 10: kids with you? I think I think I'm gonna bring
Speaker 10: two kids now, two plus twenty eight. I got thirty
Speaker 10: kids with me, thirty kids, seven grenades, a truck, I
Speaker 10: got seven different streamers.
Speaker 6: Okay, God from emis Et.
Speaker 9: Sage bush Dads.
Speaker 2: This ship ain't gonna average.
Speaker 9: Joe y'all dead.
Speaker 10: Nah, I'm gonna be so on this this like, I'm
Speaker 10: gonna be so honest. Gang, that's the most mature y'all. Y'all,
Speaker 10: that's the most mature y'all ever gonna see the game.
Speaker 10: That's the most mature y'all ever gonna see. Because of
Speaker 10: my mother's life. If that's how I didn't do little
Speaker 10: interviews out there because I was just I was mad,
Speaker 10: but I was grateful. Oh my mother's like, I was
Speaker 10: so grateful me and says to the picture. It was
Speaker 10: a whole some moment me and Cod from the Bronx
Speaker 10: to E B T, Oh my dog. But I'm gonna
Speaker 10: be honest, if i'd have got on one interview that
Speaker 10: I would have said from E B T to b
Speaker 10: T to S M D, I would have said some
Speaker 10: wild I would have released.
Speaker 2: Some wild word of my motherhood. Not get it.
Speaker 10: And yes.
Speaker 11: And no.
Speaker 9: And I'm not mad because I know his level of sedition.
Speaker 6: I know his level.
Speaker 1: So as you've seen now and again, I do want
Speaker 1: to be clear too that you know I can't hold
Speaker 1: the entire BT to the fire, but BT, the people
Speaker 1: you guys have in position have made mistake after mistake
Speaker 1: after mistake after mistake, and they just always late to
Speaker 1: the part. Again, I sent a salute to casanet enty Leo.
Speaker 1: That's the thing about being early. They don't recognize you
Speaker 1: into it's too late. I want the youngsters to know
Speaker 1: as well as me, you have to always remember, never
Speaker 1: mistake or handshake with a seat at the table.
Speaker 2: And we'll do that a lot, because.
Speaker 1: We'll do that a lot because we come from not
Speaker 1: so just even getting in the vicinity and getting a
Speaker 1: handshake from some of these people will kind of place
Speaker 1: us in a scenario where we say, you know what, yo, man,
Speaker 1: I feel like we in it together now.
Speaker 2: Now we ain't in it together until they show you
Speaker 2: we in it together.
Speaker 1: And BT, you guys have made some monumental mistakes along
Speaker 1: your journey, especially with your rebrand, and this is just one,
Speaker 1: Like even with me. I was talking to them and
Speaker 1: I'm saying to myself, I'm a black man. I'm one
Speaker 1: of the more respected people in our culture. Period. I
Speaker 1: got access to every big artist in the culture. They
Speaker 1: know who I am, they listen to me. I have
Speaker 1: relationships with some of the biggest names in culture that
Speaker 1: is period, that is literally period. And so as I'm
Speaker 1: speaking with BT, and I have my people speaking with BT,
Speaker 1: and they're saying, Yo, we're gonna try to get you
Speaker 1: into the media room, and then all of a sudden
Speaker 1: they go dog And I'm saying to myself, how did
Speaker 1: this happen? What else can they be looking for? I'm me,
Speaker 1: I'm someone in culture, well established. I'm on like a
Speaker 1: four year run, I'm a well established brand, a well
Speaker 1: established podcast.
Speaker 2: We got I Heart backing.
Speaker 1: We're tied in with Black Effect, which BT Black Entertainment,
Speaker 1: Black Effect. I'm saying whoa, this gotta be a layup.
Speaker 1: It's a black owned company. I'm a black creator. I'm
Speaker 1: tied with every black artist in the culture. So they
Speaker 1: can't be looking for anything black to get it done.
Speaker 1: They're looking for the white coat signe. This is just
Speaker 1: what I came up with. They're looking for the white
Speaker 1: coast signe. And so for me, like I told you
Speaker 1: guys a long time ago, the black shit in the
Speaker 1: brand and had you if people put that black shit
Speaker 1: in the brand, you gotta be careful dog Like BT,
Speaker 1: you have to be careful because a lot of times
Speaker 1: it's actually not ran by black people, and they're actually
Speaker 1: not tapped into Black culture. They just have black in
Speaker 1: their name to mass themselves as being the pathway or
Speaker 1: the interstate into black culture when really they're not even
Speaker 1: tapped in in black culture. And what happens in content
Speaker 1: world with podcasting, streaming, all these different things is going
Speaker 1: through what REP went through. I remember when REP had
Speaker 1: a time where a lot of the labels and brands
Speaker 1: and shit wouldn't accept a hit as a hit into
Speaker 1: it was whitewashed. Black people had been said, it's a hit,
Speaker 1: it's by black people. But when the white people is
Speaker 1: whitewashed when.
Speaker 2: They get their hand on it.
Speaker 1: Now it's officially a hit. That's an oversight. And if
Speaker 1: I'm being honest, this isn't an oversight by black. If
Speaker 1: I'm being honest, this isn't the oversight. This is how
Speaker 1: they operate. Be careful because sometimes you'll think, man, there's
Speaker 1: just an oversight, now, little when this is how they operate.
Speaker 2: It's not on it's in that resume doll. This is
Speaker 2: part of their resume.
Speaker 1: If they can't go in their roller decks of the
Speaker 1: white companies or white people, it's gonna be hard for
Speaker 1: you to even get into something that says black entertainment
Speaker 1: when you're a black creator. It's almost no way to
Speaker 1: come back from that. You'll have some of these companies
Speaker 1: and it's a trick play. They'll asks you to provide
Speaker 1: everything they know you don't have. That asks you to
Speaker 1: provide everything you never had, to prove you deserve something
Speaker 1: that they know they never gonna give you. So if
Speaker 1: you can get your numbers here like these unreasonable bench marks,
Speaker 1: these unreasonable expectations on relationships, like they'll put you in
Speaker 1: a position.
Speaker 2: Knowing that yo, you put the benchmark out of reach.
Speaker 2: I can never reach that.
Speaker 1: But it's in the contract. Oh, but it's in our relationship.
Speaker 1: If you can just yo, you know, they playing one
Speaker 1: hundred years worth games on you. And so I asked
Speaker 1: that BT and other companies out there that hang they
Speaker 1: had on their part of the culture speaking for the culture.
Speaker 1: I asked that you guys, please, if you're gonna be
Speaker 1: for the culture, be for all of the culture, not
Speaker 1: just the parse with the corporate clearance, because a lot
Speaker 1: of times you have to have a white corporate clearance
Speaker 1: for these black companies to greenlight you. Even when you're
Speaker 1: doing business as getting with some of these rappers and
Speaker 1: you're going through publicist in the label, Like if you
Speaker 1: say that you're signed to a white company like a
Speaker 1: Complex or Barstool, they greenlighted you signed to a black company.
Speaker 1: Or you're independent black creator that got a bunch of
Speaker 1: following a bunch of traction, they hesitate because they're looking
Speaker 1: for the white corporate clearance to make anything happen. And
Speaker 1: that's what slowed down the rapper and the artists. It's
Speaker 1: like they no longer have people that are of the
Speaker 1: culture that's going to find the talent. See a lot
Speaker 1: of times, the people who benefit from the culture, they
Speaker 1: often fear the people that built the coature. And so
Speaker 1: when I say BT is out of the loop, I
Speaker 1: don't mean they missed the moment. I mean they missed
Speaker 1: the movement. They missed the movement of streaming, they missed
Speaker 1: the movement of podcasting. I look in the media room
Speaker 1: and I see people and I'm saying, yo, it has
Speaker 1: to be something going on. While I'm not in that
Speaker 1: media room, or while they told my people that we
Speaker 1: ran out of room this year, excuse me, I see
Speaker 1: certain people in there, and I'm saying, Yo, it gotta
Speaker 1: be something bigger than just you gotta be a black
Speaker 1: platform with numbers deals, I got everything, every box is
Speaker 1: checked off, and they just not missing the moment. They
Speaker 1: missing the movement. But it's not a mistake. It's their
Speaker 1: business model. BT is supposed to be the post of
Speaker 1: the culture. But every year they show up blake to
Speaker 1: their own party. They didn't find Ca Sannett, they didn't
Speaker 1: help build Tylell, they didn't see us. They wait till
Speaker 1: we traind go viral picked up by brands, and then
Speaker 1: they try to act like they've been tapped in. But
Speaker 1: that's the irony. A network name for US built on US.
Speaker 1: Can't even recognize us in real time. BT don't follow
Speaker 1: the culture, follow the coverage. That ain't a vision, that's
Speaker 1: a TV guide they dealing with. They ain't tapped in.
Speaker 1: Howd of you're gonna have black in your name but
Speaker 1: put blindfolds on it in your practice. I'm a black
Speaker 1: man signed to a black company doing business on the
Speaker 1: highest level, tapped in with every black artist, and they
Speaker 1: told me it wasn't room.
Speaker 2: So I'm no different than Tylerell. They just make it
Speaker 2: up as they go. Love one.
Speaker 1: They say that this is the Culture Award Show, but
Speaker 1: sometimes it feels like they're hosting a party but don't
Speaker 1: know who they invited. They got black literally in bold letters,
Speaker 1: but when black creators show up without a middle man,
Speaker 1: the system glitches. It's not celebration and segregation. See I
Speaker 1: was gonna go, but I'm not interested in going. This
Speaker 1: is why sometimes I don't bring my kids. You see
Speaker 1: Tylee go to that. Sometimes I don't bring my kids
Speaker 1: places because I know if you do that to me
Speaker 1: and my children, you ruin our relationship and I can't
Speaker 1: guarantee how I'm an act I can't guarantee it. That's
Speaker 1: why I don't put my kids in that situation. It's
Speaker 1: probably only Baby and P that I feel comfortable showing
Speaker 1: up literally.
Speaker 2: With my kids in Charlemagne. Charlemagne are sinned for me.
Speaker 1: But Bro, like even when Baby when I got to
Speaker 1: the to the when I got to the window at
Speaker 1: Baby Show, I had six different tags and six different
Speaker 1: tickets in six different backstage things. Because Piece and some
Speaker 1: baby saying something they both sent them up bakes your
Speaker 1: loom good, you see what I'm saying. So I understand
Speaker 1: when people with you, they really with you. But I
Speaker 1: don't bring my kids bro because it's just gross. And
Speaker 1: I keep myself out of those situations. Man, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. I just keep myself out of those situations.
Speaker 1: It's just unfortunate that BT have the culture in his
Speaker 1: name and then forget what the culture looks like. You know,
Speaker 1: they saw a kid Tyleell streamer and forgot they were
Speaker 1: looking directly at the next generation of start power. They
Speaker 1: still act like access is earned by industry validation, not impact.
Speaker 1: But who validates them now? The streets are the streamers.
Speaker 1: I think BT continues to drop the ball. I'm starting
Speaker 1: to think it's not them missing the moment, it's them
Speaker 1: missing a movement. And this is just up there podcast
Speaker 1: with signing out and I'll see you guys next week.
Speaker 1: I love y'all for sure, for sure. Make sure you
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Speaker 1: want to keep seeing these episodes, just don't the way
Speaker 1: I'm gonna keep doing them.
Speaker 2: I love you. It's up there podcast. Skid it