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Speaker 1: another episode of your favorite podcasts favorite podcast. One thing

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Speaker 2: What kind of sucker is that? That? Ain't no lollipop?

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Speaker 2: You just got to keep it moving.

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Speaker 1: But don't nobody owe any one nothing, not even the

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Speaker 1: It's information based. The talent go out the window at

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Speaker 1: with me, love, because I done been through some things

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Speaker 1: But when you get into my personal life and we

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Speaker 2: They done done a number on me.

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Speaker 1: But I left that with my hustle, and I left

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Speaker 2: And that just doesn't mean sex. That means if we.

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Speaker 2: I've been through hell.

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Speaker 2: You know, I can't even help it. I can't even

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Speaker 1: I'm in a situation where I can't even help the

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Speaker 1: factor and you say, damn yeah, Like we may fall

441
00:22:35,040 --> 00:22:38,919
Speaker 1: in love and average and have a great time, but

442
00:22:39,040 --> 00:22:41,560
Speaker 1: any event you fall out of love with me, any

443
00:22:41,560 --> 00:22:45,600
Speaker 1: event that things go left, that can cost me everything.

444
00:22:47,119 --> 00:22:51,080
Speaker 1: And so sometimes we become apprehensive or have some arrested

445
00:22:51,119 --> 00:22:54,480
Speaker 1: development as it pertains to love and not really want

446
00:22:54,520 --> 00:22:58,040
Speaker 1: to engage in a high level relationship.

447
00:22:58,880 --> 00:23:02,119
Speaker 2: Or someone pours in you. Because also women get bitter

448
00:23:02,119 --> 00:23:05,320
Speaker 2: when they pulling the men and it don't work. Like

449
00:23:05,359 --> 00:23:07,600
Speaker 2: I've saw women spend ten years of their life with

450
00:23:07,680 --> 00:23:09,560
Speaker 2: a man and they hate him more than they could

451
00:23:09,600 --> 00:23:12,239
Speaker 2: have ever loved him when they was together. And it

452
00:23:12,240 --> 00:23:15,399
Speaker 2: ain't because anything changed about him. It's because it didn't

453
00:23:15,440 --> 00:23:18,560
Speaker 2: work out in her favor or his favor.

454
00:23:19,800 --> 00:23:22,879
Speaker 1: And so the residue and the damage that relationships can

455
00:23:22,920 --> 00:23:27,360
Speaker 1: do can always keep you apprehensive. And I pray healing

456
00:23:27,560 --> 00:23:31,399
Speaker 1: over people who have been in bad relationships, who have

457
00:23:31,520 --> 00:23:33,760
Speaker 1: been betrayed by people who they once loved.

458
00:23:34,840 --> 00:23:35,000
Speaker 6: Right.

459
00:23:35,119 --> 00:23:39,000
Speaker 2: I know guys that have babies with individuals that want

460
00:23:39,000 --> 00:23:39,800
Speaker 2: to see them fail.

461
00:23:40,760 --> 00:23:42,439
Speaker 1: I could never want to see the mother of my

462
00:23:42,560 --> 00:23:47,600
Speaker 1: children fail, because that in turn hurts my kids. But

463
00:23:47,680 --> 00:23:49,840
Speaker 1: I do know that there are some women out there

464
00:23:49,880 --> 00:23:53,439
Speaker 1: that do want to see their baby fathers fail and

465
00:23:53,480 --> 00:23:56,280
Speaker 1: fall on his face and look dumb to the public.

466
00:23:56,320 --> 00:23:59,360
Speaker 1: And for me, that says a lot about your characteristics.

467
00:24:00,160 --> 00:24:02,800
Speaker 1: You put the man in a hard place because sometimes

468
00:24:03,640 --> 00:24:06,199
Speaker 1: sometimes the man wants to respond and he wants to

469
00:24:06,240 --> 00:24:09,720
Speaker 1: be just as vindictive as you. And then you look

470
00:24:09,760 --> 00:24:11,639
Speaker 1: at your kid and you say, I can't even do

471
00:24:11,760 --> 00:24:16,639
Speaker 1: it because in fifteen years, how does that look to

472
00:24:16,720 --> 00:24:19,960
Speaker 1: my son? How does that look to my daughter? What

473
00:24:20,000 --> 00:24:24,840
Speaker 1: does that mean to the relationship between my son and

474
00:24:24,880 --> 00:24:28,840
Speaker 1: his mother, my daughter and his mother? Right, it just

475
00:24:29,080 --> 00:24:31,120
Speaker 1: I don't know how to really put it. But does

476
00:24:31,240 --> 00:24:35,439
Speaker 1: a weird fascination that I see on the side of

477
00:24:35,480 --> 00:24:38,119
Speaker 1: some women that want to ruin the relationship between the

478
00:24:38,200 --> 00:24:39,119
Speaker 1: father and the son.

479
00:24:41,400 --> 00:24:46,280
Speaker 2: I just bro listen, my heart, my heart is. It

480
00:24:46,480 --> 00:24:47,560
Speaker 2: hardens my heart.

481
00:24:47,680 --> 00:24:50,000
Speaker 1: It makes my heart black when I see a woman

482
00:24:50,080 --> 00:24:52,439
Speaker 1: go out of that way to try to ruin the

483
00:24:52,520 --> 00:24:57,960
Speaker 1: relationship between a man. And you know, it really really

484
00:24:58,000 --> 00:25:01,439
Speaker 1: does something to my spirit. And I wonder, and I

485
00:25:01,520 --> 00:25:06,680
Speaker 1: want to ask God, why doesn't he step in? Those

486
00:25:06,720 --> 00:25:10,040
Speaker 1: are the times like I rarely ask God anything I

487
00:25:10,160 --> 00:25:14,000
Speaker 1: rarely question God. I rarely put God back against the

488
00:25:14,119 --> 00:25:17,000
Speaker 1: ropes for lack of a better term, and ask him, God,

489
00:25:17,320 --> 00:25:18,679
Speaker 1: where are you when these.

490
00:25:18,440 --> 00:25:19,560
Speaker 2: Things are taking place?

491
00:25:20,080 --> 00:25:24,840
Speaker 1: Age when a man is put everything he has on

492
00:25:24,880 --> 00:25:26,800
Speaker 1: the line for the family and she want to.

493
00:25:27,119 --> 00:25:28,000
Speaker 2: Ruin the family.

494
00:25:28,000 --> 00:25:31,720
Speaker 1: If once this same woman help you create life, now

495
00:25:31,760 --> 00:25:34,240
Speaker 1: she's trying to destroy your life.

496
00:25:35,119 --> 00:25:37,440
Speaker 2: God, where are you in these scenarios?

497
00:25:39,640 --> 00:25:41,960
Speaker 1: Why haven't you ripped the tongue of some of these

498
00:25:42,040 --> 00:25:45,240
Speaker 1: women or some of these men that are going out

499
00:25:45,280 --> 00:25:48,719
Speaker 1: of their way to slander instead of being a co

500
00:25:48,880 --> 00:25:50,480
Speaker 1: parent and trying to coexist.

501
00:25:51,720 --> 00:25:52,800
Speaker 2: They want to destroy.

502
00:25:53,840 --> 00:25:57,720
Speaker 1: They want to deploy hatred on a man that has

503
00:25:57,760 --> 00:26:02,320
Speaker 1: to look at their seed and just try to keep

504
00:26:02,359 --> 00:26:08,880
Speaker 1: smiling and act like that they're not bothered by those scenarios.

505
00:26:10,800 --> 00:26:12,879
Speaker 1: I pray for the men out that it's going through that.

506
00:26:13,000 --> 00:26:15,160
Speaker 1: I pray for the women out that it's going through that.

507
00:26:15,480 --> 00:26:16,440
Speaker 2: One thing. I know.

508
00:26:18,000 --> 00:26:20,280
Speaker 1: As it pertains to me, You know, I try to

509
00:26:20,359 --> 00:26:23,679
Speaker 1: keep myself out of harm's weight. I don't want to

510
00:26:23,720 --> 00:26:27,920
Speaker 1: ever alter the relationship between my kid and their parents.

511
00:26:30,160 --> 00:26:33,520
Speaker 1: See back in the eighties and even maybe the early

512
00:26:33,640 --> 00:26:38,520
Speaker 1: nineties and even now right there is a place where

513
00:26:38,600 --> 00:26:41,200
Speaker 1: some people are not in that kid's life, and there's

514
00:26:41,240 --> 00:26:44,719
Speaker 1: a place where some people deserve to be held accountable

515
00:26:44,760 --> 00:26:48,639
Speaker 1: for what they're not doing as it pertains to their child.

516
00:26:50,000 --> 00:26:56,880
Speaker 1: But to try to destroy someone that you once loved,

517
00:26:57,080 --> 00:27:01,600
Speaker 1: for me is just it is mind boggling. Never really truly, truly,

518
00:27:01,760 --> 00:27:08,040
Speaker 1: truly understanding. But that's a horse of a different color,

519
00:27:08,640 --> 00:27:11,200
Speaker 1: you know, that's a book of a different cover. So

520
00:27:11,240 --> 00:27:13,199
Speaker 1: we'll get to that at some other point. But I

521
00:27:13,240 --> 00:27:15,040
Speaker 1: do want to get back to Diddy a little bit.

522
00:27:15,160 --> 00:27:19,080
Speaker 1: Diddy as like I was saying, Diddy beat the rico charge.

523
00:27:19,119 --> 00:27:20,479
Speaker 1: I want to look at a little bit of this

524
00:27:20,960 --> 00:27:26,320
Speaker 1: interview with Jeene Dial as he talks about Diddy beating

525
00:27:26,320 --> 00:27:30,720
Speaker 1: the rico. Geen Dial, if you asked me, were instrumental

526
00:27:31,560 --> 00:27:34,359
Speaker 1: in how this entire rico started. And I want to

527
00:27:34,400 --> 00:27:36,320
Speaker 1: be clear, there's a lot of media in real time.

528
00:27:36,359 --> 00:27:37,240
Speaker 1: You see them flip.

529
00:27:37,400 --> 00:27:39,720
Speaker 2: They were part of the beginning of this and at

530
00:27:39,720 --> 00:27:42,000
Speaker 2: the end of this now they're like, yeah, man, he

531
00:27:42,080 --> 00:27:43,960
Speaker 2: ought to be at man. Yeah nah.

532
00:27:43,960 --> 00:27:46,840
Speaker 1: They were trying to hang a black man. And I'm

533
00:27:46,840 --> 00:27:52,040
Speaker 1: sitting back saying, yo, all of you need was helping

534
00:27:52,119 --> 00:27:56,520
Speaker 1: the investigation y'all were propping up people who were speaking

535
00:27:56,520 --> 00:28:00,439
Speaker 1: about this man's personal life, his sexual fantasies, things he

536
00:28:00,480 --> 00:28:03,600
Speaker 1: would do inside and outside of the bedroom. And all

537
00:28:03,600 --> 00:28:07,159
Speaker 1: of a sudden, now y'all support did it. This is

538
00:28:07,200 --> 00:28:09,679
Speaker 1: what I was speaking about, how fake the industry is.

539
00:28:10,119 --> 00:28:13,480
Speaker 1: And you can't even say nothing, you can't even act

540
00:28:13,560 --> 00:28:15,480
Speaker 1: like you see it. You just got to keep it

541
00:28:15,560 --> 00:28:18,000
Speaker 1: moving like yod fo here crazy for real. But I

542
00:28:18,000 --> 00:28:19,760
Speaker 1: want to look at a little bit of this gene

543
00:28:19,760 --> 00:28:24,080
Speaker 1: deal conversation. I have not seen it, so we're just

544
00:28:24,119 --> 00:28:26,760
Speaker 1: gonna see a little bit of what he said as

545
00:28:26,760 --> 00:28:28,200
Speaker 1: it pertains to this interview.

546
00:28:28,320 --> 00:28:33,520
Speaker 8: And you people are here celebrating man, Yo. Check it out.

547
00:28:33,760 --> 00:28:37,080
Speaker 8: They are celebrating, but he's still.

548
00:28:36,840 --> 00:28:37,600
Speaker 2: Going to jail.

549
00:28:38,680 --> 00:28:42,480
Speaker 8: You understand they celebrate yo, this Yo, I was thinking

550
00:28:42,480 --> 00:28:45,680
Speaker 8: about some stuff I said, Yo. They celebrating for a

551
00:28:45,800 --> 00:28:55,560
Speaker 8: psychotic narcissist, a social path, sex offender, abusing and degrading women,

552
00:28:56,960 --> 00:29:02,560
Speaker 8: beaten on them, brother and having them appease him. And

553
00:29:02,600 --> 00:29:05,880
Speaker 8: it's homosexual tendencies.

554
00:29:06,760 --> 00:29:09,280
Speaker 2: Now, one thing I want to point out really quick.

555
00:29:10,320 --> 00:29:13,880
Speaker 2: You know, you know we are the head out the tail,

556
00:29:14,720 --> 00:29:17,000
Speaker 2: you understand me. Were the people that kind of peep

557
00:29:17,040 --> 00:29:20,120
Speaker 2: the game. Now, pay attention to this dude. He's reading something. Now.

558
00:29:20,160 --> 00:29:24,520
Speaker 1: I don't know if someone has ridden him a monologue

559
00:29:24,520 --> 00:29:26,640
Speaker 1: to say when he gets on his platform, if he's

560
00:29:26,680 --> 00:29:30,520
Speaker 1: been instructed on how to frame these things or give

561
00:29:30,640 --> 00:29:34,520
Speaker 1: context setting what he's about to say. But if you're

562
00:29:34,560 --> 00:29:37,240
Speaker 1: speaking from the hard and you were this involved in it,

563
00:29:37,280 --> 00:29:39,400
Speaker 1: because this guy was involved in it, and I got

564
00:29:39,480 --> 00:29:42,200
Speaker 1: Gene Deal number, I was gonna put gen Deal on

565
00:29:42,240 --> 00:29:45,960
Speaker 1: the platform. Then I told myself, no disrespect to Gene Deal.

566
00:29:46,560 --> 00:29:48,360
Speaker 1: I was gonna put him on the platform. And I

567
00:29:48,400 --> 00:29:51,880
Speaker 1: told myself, yo, what I look like bringing that dude

568
00:29:51,920 --> 00:29:56,520
Speaker 1: on the platform to speak about Diddy being some kind

569
00:29:56,520 --> 00:30:00,160
Speaker 1: of sexual DV. I just I don't want to be

570
00:30:00,160 --> 00:30:01,880
Speaker 1: a part of telling nobody down.

571
00:30:01,960 --> 00:30:02,160
Speaker 2: Now.

572
00:30:02,160 --> 00:30:04,719
Speaker 1: Holding people accountable is one thing, and I think the

573
00:30:04,760 --> 00:30:07,600
Speaker 1: court process had as he had his day in court

574
00:30:07,640 --> 00:30:10,160
Speaker 1: and they found what they found, which he was guilty

575
00:30:10,640 --> 00:30:14,080
Speaker 1: on two charges. But I had several opportunities to fly

576
00:30:14,240 --> 00:30:17,160
Speaker 1: Gene Deal down, get him on the show and speaking.

577
00:30:17,280 --> 00:30:20,480
Speaker 1: Now I might actually speak to him and push back

578
00:30:20,600 --> 00:30:24,040
Speaker 1: on some of his finding some of the things he said,

579
00:30:24,040 --> 00:30:26,320
Speaker 1: because when I noticed when they go on some of

580
00:30:26,360 --> 00:30:30,760
Speaker 1: these platforms, and I believe that's kind of what makes

581
00:30:30,840 --> 00:30:34,760
Speaker 1: us unique in the market, is that when you come

582
00:30:34,800 --> 00:30:38,080
Speaker 1: on my platform and we have their relationship, I'm able

583
00:30:38,080 --> 00:30:40,040
Speaker 1: to push back and I'm able to have a real

584
00:30:40,200 --> 00:30:44,120
Speaker 1: dialogue about some of the demonstrations that you put out

585
00:30:44,160 --> 00:30:47,440
Speaker 1: to the public. And sometimes we come to find out

586
00:30:47,640 --> 00:30:51,040
Speaker 1: that there's a lot of dysfunction in your die try

587
00:30:52,360 --> 00:30:58,520
Speaker 1: in your dialect, you see. And with Gene dial you know,

588
00:30:59,440 --> 00:31:01,800
Speaker 1: my next question would have been to him out of

589
00:31:01,840 --> 00:31:04,360
Speaker 1: this would have been, now, what are you reading? Did

590
00:31:04,400 --> 00:31:06,239
Speaker 1: you write that? Did someone else write there?

591
00:31:06,360 --> 00:31:06,440
Speaker 6: Like?

592
00:31:06,480 --> 00:31:08,360
Speaker 1: That would have been the first thing I wanted to know,

593
00:31:08,480 --> 00:31:12,120
Speaker 1: because again, I'm just an organic, real person. I don't

594
00:31:12,200 --> 00:31:14,840
Speaker 1: take notes. I don't dance unless I like the music,

595
00:31:16,000 --> 00:31:19,640
Speaker 1: you understand. So I'm just one of those kind of guys.

596
00:31:19,680 --> 00:31:23,600
Speaker 1: And I think this Diddy trial showed me so much

597
00:31:23,680 --> 00:31:25,920
Speaker 1: as it pertains to how media works. And I'm in

598
00:31:25,960 --> 00:31:27,880
Speaker 1: the midst of it, and I didn't even eat off

599
00:31:27,920 --> 00:31:29,640
Speaker 1: of it. Trust me, A lot of people made a

600
00:31:29,720 --> 00:31:32,960
Speaker 1: lot of money off this Diddy thing, same way with

601
00:31:33,080 --> 00:31:36,320
Speaker 1: young thugs. And this is what I say about those

602
00:31:36,360 --> 00:31:39,120
Speaker 1: guys in entertainment or going through some of the harsh

603
00:31:39,320 --> 00:31:44,160
Speaker 1: darknesses that they have walked through. They are to throw

604
00:31:44,160 --> 00:31:46,400
Speaker 1: a bone, or they are to give an allie oop,

605
00:31:46,640 --> 00:31:48,880
Speaker 1: or they are to center thank you or head now

606
00:31:49,000 --> 00:31:51,520
Speaker 1: to some of the guys who are out here trying

607
00:31:51,560 --> 00:31:56,280
Speaker 1: to comb through the bullshit and not just position narratives

608
00:31:56,320 --> 00:31:58,160
Speaker 1: to get the views and eat and.

609
00:31:58,120 --> 00:32:00,080
Speaker 2: Eat and eat right, because that's so.

610
00:32:00,280 --> 00:32:04,200
Speaker 1: Many times where Yo, you do an interview with Jean

611
00:32:04,280 --> 00:32:07,040
Speaker 1: Deal and you got my kind of platform three hundred

612
00:32:07,080 --> 00:32:11,120
Speaker 1: four hundred, five hundred k easily easily, especially if I

613
00:32:11,120 --> 00:32:13,280
Speaker 1: don't push back and I kind of just let him talk.

614
00:32:13,320 --> 00:32:17,160
Speaker 1: The same with the young thug situation, like these dudes

615
00:32:17,160 --> 00:32:19,840
Speaker 1: go to jail, you bring people along from the opposite side,

616
00:32:19,920 --> 00:32:22,640
Speaker 1: let them task moundfut and say this and that you

617
00:32:22,680 --> 00:32:27,880
Speaker 1: can actually make a living like that, brother. And some

618
00:32:27,960 --> 00:32:30,400
Speaker 1: people have integrities so they won't do it. And I

619
00:32:30,440 --> 00:32:34,080
Speaker 1: happen to be one of those guys. But according but

620
00:32:34,200 --> 00:32:36,680
Speaker 1: looking at this Gene Deal situation, the first thing I

621
00:32:36,680 --> 00:32:38,960
Speaker 1: would have asked, was, Yo, is anybody writing this for you?

622
00:32:39,040 --> 00:32:41,800
Speaker 2: What is that? What's going on? But in media, they

623
00:32:41,800 --> 00:32:43,840
Speaker 2: don't give a They just want the views.

624
00:32:44,280 --> 00:32:47,160
Speaker 1: They just want to keep building the platform, right, They

625
00:32:47,160 --> 00:32:51,000
Speaker 1: don't care nothing about if you've been told what to say, if.

626
00:32:50,880 --> 00:32:52,400
Speaker 2: You lying, if you're telling the truth.

627
00:32:52,440 --> 00:32:54,640
Speaker 1: Because I also find an interest in that the Fearz

628
00:32:54,720 --> 00:32:59,200
Speaker 1: never brought gene dal along all of it, the hours

629
00:32:59,280 --> 00:33:02,840
Speaker 1: and hours of conversations and allegations that he's been able

630
00:33:02,880 --> 00:33:06,280
Speaker 1: to put down on interview after interview and after interview,

631
00:33:06,640 --> 00:33:10,200
Speaker 1: and the Fares didn't bring him in for one thing.

632
00:33:12,480 --> 00:33:16,000
Speaker 2: But guess who will bring him right back? These platforms.

633
00:33:16,360 --> 00:33:19,240
Speaker 1: They'll bring him right back even if the Fares don't

634
00:33:19,240 --> 00:33:21,600
Speaker 1: find him credible enough to put him on the stand

635
00:33:21,920 --> 00:33:24,760
Speaker 1: while they're trying to send a man to jail rightfully

636
00:33:24,920 --> 00:33:29,040
Speaker 1: or wrongfully. But they don't find him to be credible

637
00:33:29,200 --> 00:33:31,400
Speaker 1: enough to be on the stand. But guess what he's

638
00:33:31,400 --> 00:33:34,560
Speaker 1: credible enough to do, get on these platforms and get

639
00:33:34,640 --> 00:33:37,160
Speaker 1: hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of thousands of yews. So

640
00:33:37,200 --> 00:33:39,600
Speaker 1: I may have a conversation with Jeane dial coming soon,

641
00:33:40,120 --> 00:33:41,960
Speaker 1: just because I want to push back on a little

642
00:33:41,960 --> 00:33:44,560
Speaker 1: bit of what he has put out there, and I

643
00:33:44,600 --> 00:33:46,120
Speaker 1: didn't want to do it in the midstter court.

644
00:33:46,160 --> 00:33:46,840
Speaker 2: But pay attention.

645
00:33:47,320 --> 00:33:54,560
Speaker 8: By letting random men, prostitutes, mal prostitutes, brother ejaculate, they

646
00:33:54,760 --> 00:33:58,840
Speaker 8: sexual juices on them so he can lick them off.

647
00:34:00,560 --> 00:34:01,520
Speaker 2: Is this what's.

648
00:34:01,280 --> 00:34:03,000
Speaker 8: Happening in the hood now?

649
00:34:03,920 --> 00:34:06,920
Speaker 2: Is that's what's good in the hood? Tell me?

650
00:34:07,040 --> 00:34:10,640
Speaker 8: Is that what's happening in the streets, brother, is that's

651
00:34:10,680 --> 00:34:15,160
Speaker 8: what the industry that came down to. Now they celebrating them.

652
00:34:16,960 --> 00:34:24,200
Speaker 8: This is what this man is. I talked about his character, Broh.

653
00:34:24,320 --> 00:34:24,880
Speaker 2: In court.

654
00:34:25,239 --> 00:34:29,120
Speaker 8: We heard stuff that came up that none of us know.

655
00:34:30,840 --> 00:34:35,920
Speaker 8: They out here celebrating YO and talking about YO. What

656
00:34:36,040 --> 00:34:38,160
Speaker 8: gin't gonna do now? How Jean feel?

657
00:34:38,280 --> 00:34:40,120
Speaker 2: Now? Jean Good in the hood.

658
00:34:41,280 --> 00:34:45,360
Speaker 8: I could go open up my refrigerator anytime I want to.

659
00:34:47,120 --> 00:34:48,280
Speaker 2: Jan' Good in the hood.

660
00:34:48,520 --> 00:34:51,840
Speaker 1: No one is celebrating or defending Diddy and some of

661
00:34:51,840 --> 00:34:54,719
Speaker 1: the things that came out in court, even some of

662
00:34:54,760 --> 00:34:57,160
Speaker 1: the charges that he's found guilty on. I think what

663
00:34:57,280 --> 00:35:01,239
Speaker 1: people are celebrating, or not even much so celebrating.

664
00:35:01,320 --> 00:35:01,799
Speaker 2: I think what.

665
00:35:01,800 --> 00:35:06,520
Speaker 1: People are intrigued with and somewhat happy about, is that

666
00:35:06,719 --> 00:35:10,000
Speaker 1: the fact that they didn't get to not only send

667
00:35:10,080 --> 00:35:11,879
Speaker 1: that man to jail for the rest of his life

668
00:35:11,960 --> 00:35:15,160
Speaker 1: for being quote unquote freaky, because even with what he

669
00:35:15,360 --> 00:35:18,400
Speaker 1: just said, there's a bunch of freaky shit that's going

670
00:35:18,440 --> 00:35:21,720
Speaker 1: on I don't co sign all that. Yeah, I don't

671
00:35:21,760 --> 00:35:25,000
Speaker 1: need all that. Yeah nah, I don't. Yeah nah, I don't.

672
00:35:25,040 --> 00:35:26,960
Speaker 1: I don't even want all that going on in my

673
00:35:27,080 --> 00:35:30,560
Speaker 1: bedroom or my bathroom. You hit me, Yeah nah, I

674
00:35:30,560 --> 00:35:34,280
Speaker 1: don't need no whole bunch of a baby or sitting

675
00:35:34,320 --> 00:35:37,920
Speaker 1: in hot water in my bathroom. So we ain't celebrating,

676
00:35:37,960 --> 00:35:40,720
Speaker 1: and people are not intrigued so much with that side

677
00:35:40,719 --> 00:35:43,280
Speaker 1: of it, but they blurred their lines. And there's also

678
00:35:43,360 --> 00:35:47,759
Speaker 1: a conversation out there where people are saying that they're

679
00:35:47,800 --> 00:35:52,960
Speaker 1: shaming victims by celebrating a quote unquote win number one did.

680
00:35:52,960 --> 00:35:55,719
Speaker 1: It still has to go to centicing, and I think

681
00:35:55,760 --> 00:35:57,879
Speaker 1: that process is gonna be a lot harder than what

682
00:35:57,920 --> 00:36:00,400
Speaker 1: people are considering because the fiss don't like to have

683
00:36:00,480 --> 00:36:02,320
Speaker 1: egg on their face and they don't like to lose.

684
00:36:02,400 --> 00:36:05,239
Speaker 1: But I do want to say this, what people are

685
00:36:05,320 --> 00:36:09,359
Speaker 1: intrigued with or paying attention to with this Diddy thing

686
00:36:09,520 --> 00:36:14,600
Speaker 1: is it's kind of twofold one. Is they hit him

687
00:36:14,600 --> 00:36:17,480
Speaker 1: with the rico charge and he was just one person.

688
00:36:17,960 --> 00:36:20,279
Speaker 1: So in the history of the RICO I'm not even

689
00:36:20,320 --> 00:36:23,400
Speaker 1: sure that it's been applied in that way. It's almost

690
00:36:23,480 --> 00:36:29,960
Speaker 1: like they misused the law in that particular situation. And

691
00:36:30,040 --> 00:36:33,520
Speaker 1: we also know the RICO to have a high percentage

692
00:36:33,600 --> 00:36:36,200
Speaker 1: or a high conviction rate in particular with the Fed.

693
00:36:36,320 --> 00:36:39,319
Speaker 1: So there's people who are paying attention and saying, yo,

694
00:36:39,360 --> 00:36:41,480
Speaker 1: they hit him with the RICO and it's the FIZ

695
00:36:42,280 --> 00:36:46,400
Speaker 1: and he didn't get found guilty on that, And so

696
00:36:46,520 --> 00:36:51,719
Speaker 1: your history plays into account. The Feds have this Mike

697
00:36:51,840 --> 00:36:56,440
Speaker 1: Tyson like knockout punch. When they get you, bro, it's gone.

698
00:36:56,480 --> 00:36:56,600
Speaker 9: Bro.

699
00:36:56,719 --> 00:36:59,600
Speaker 2: They got a ninety eight percent conviction.

700
00:36:59,320 --> 00:37:02,120
Speaker 1: Rate in this that right, and they play games, you know,

701
00:37:02,160 --> 00:37:04,520
Speaker 1: if people that's in jail with the nine twenty two

702
00:37:04,640 --> 00:37:09,000
Speaker 1: g and in certain situations in federal government, in federal

703
00:37:09,040 --> 00:37:11,560
Speaker 1: court where you say, boy, you supposed to beat that,

704
00:37:11,680 --> 00:37:13,480
Speaker 1: but you don't get a chance to beat it because

705
00:37:13,480 --> 00:37:17,839
Speaker 1: of the way the laws are ridden and applied. So

706
00:37:18,040 --> 00:37:22,320
Speaker 1: I believe that people are surprised that Diddy was able

707
00:37:22,400 --> 00:37:25,400
Speaker 1: to overthrow the charges that were.

708
00:37:25,280 --> 00:37:27,680
Speaker 2: Threw at him.

709
00:37:27,880 --> 00:37:31,640
Speaker 1: It ain't that co signing that he had baby oil

710
00:37:31,800 --> 00:37:34,239
Speaker 1: and man juice and he wanted to do this and

711
00:37:34,280 --> 00:37:37,120
Speaker 1: that with casting. It ain't that people are saying that

712
00:37:37,120 --> 00:37:39,480
Speaker 1: people are saying, is yo, they came for that, dude.

713
00:37:40,120 --> 00:37:42,600
Speaker 1: It's like when you first saw sug Knight get into

714
00:37:42,640 --> 00:37:45,719
Speaker 1: a fight and some knocked sug Night out, or if

715
00:37:45,800 --> 00:37:48,440
Speaker 1: a knock Mike Tyson out in his prime, it's like,

716
00:37:48,480 --> 00:37:52,200
Speaker 1: oh shit, we ain't never expect what I saw the

717
00:37:52,200 --> 00:37:53,800
Speaker 1: whole industry give up on did it?

718
00:37:54,200 --> 00:37:56,080
Speaker 2: The entire industry said he was done.

719
00:37:56,760 --> 00:37:59,960
Speaker 1: Now, this doesn't exonerate did it of being an asshole,

720
00:38:00,360 --> 00:38:05,879
Speaker 1: a domestic violence perpetrator, cause that don't do right by

721
00:38:05,920 --> 00:38:08,640
Speaker 1: his business. I can't say he do or he don't,

722
00:38:08,920 --> 00:38:11,280
Speaker 1: but I can say that are not guilty in court.

723
00:38:12,440 --> 00:38:16,200
Speaker 1: Doesn't exonerate some of the experiences that people have had

724
00:38:16,239 --> 00:38:19,919
Speaker 1: with Diddy. If you ask me, that's not what they're

725
00:38:19,920 --> 00:38:25,279
Speaker 1: a positioning this ass. What they're saying is, yo, Mike

726
00:38:25,360 --> 00:38:27,880
Speaker 1: Tyson and his prime came for dude and he knocked

727
00:38:27,920 --> 00:38:32,960
Speaker 1: him out. And so I think the people on the

728
00:38:33,040 --> 00:38:35,840
Speaker 1: other side of the conviction, the ones that were hoping

729
00:38:35,880 --> 00:38:39,879
Speaker 1: for maybe a guilty verdict on all charges, I think

730
00:38:39,920 --> 00:38:42,600
Speaker 1: he can come off and it has a bad taste.

731
00:38:42,640 --> 00:38:45,400
Speaker 1: It leaves a bad taste in their mouth when people

732
00:38:45,400 --> 00:38:51,040
Speaker 1: are saying, Wow, that dude beat the fizz, knowing that

733
00:38:51,160 --> 00:38:53,560
Speaker 1: all of his ass sets his fortune and his life

734
00:38:53,600 --> 00:38:55,800
Speaker 1: Earnest would have went with the federal government.

735
00:38:56,640 --> 00:38:58,680
Speaker 2: The stakes were extremely high.

736
00:38:59,160 --> 00:39:01,600
Speaker 1: The rush you get when you gambling and you're a

737
00:39:01,680 --> 00:39:04,560
Speaker 1: degenerate gambler, you like Aiden Ross and some of the

738
00:39:04,960 --> 00:39:08,840
Speaker 1: that a better five million in a day, yo, you

739
00:39:08,960 --> 00:39:12,840
Speaker 1: get a rush when the stakes are high. That what

740
00:39:13,000 --> 00:39:15,920
Speaker 1: people invested in this case from a level that I

741
00:39:15,960 --> 00:39:17,160
Speaker 1: couldn't even understand.

742
00:39:18,400 --> 00:39:20,279
Speaker 2: And so the stakes were extremely high.

743
00:39:20,320 --> 00:39:23,680
Speaker 1: People understood that the fifty million dollar house in la

744
00:39:23,880 --> 00:39:26,600
Speaker 1: was coming with the fizz, the fifty million dollar crib

745
00:39:26,640 --> 00:39:28,880
Speaker 1: in Miami was coming with the fez, the jet was

746
00:39:28,880 --> 00:39:31,759
Speaker 1: coming with the fez. Even did he understood that? That's

747
00:39:31,760 --> 00:39:34,080
Speaker 1: why he was trying to liquidate some of it before

748
00:39:34,080 --> 00:39:38,239
Speaker 1: they actually charged him. As he was getting closer to

749
00:39:38,800 --> 00:39:41,960
Speaker 1: selling those things, they moved in because they know, oh,

750
00:39:42,000 --> 00:39:44,000
Speaker 1: he trying to liquidate some of this shit that he

751
00:39:44,120 --> 00:39:46,880
Speaker 1: know gonna come with us. And then the question becomes,

752
00:39:47,120 --> 00:39:49,600
Speaker 1: it's the bad boy catalog coming with him? If they

753
00:39:49,600 --> 00:39:53,680
Speaker 1: would have convicted of Rico. So again, the stakes were

754
00:39:53,719 --> 00:39:56,240
Speaker 1: extremely high. I just don't want people to blur the line,

755
00:39:56,280 --> 00:40:01,000
Speaker 1: especially as it pertains to me. I'm not here sympathizing

756
00:40:01,520 --> 00:40:05,960
Speaker 1: with Diddy. I'm not here shaming victims. I'm here saying

757
00:40:06,000 --> 00:40:09,240
Speaker 1: the Fez came after that boy, and he beat the Fez,

758
00:40:10,840 --> 00:40:14,960
Speaker 1: and if you asked me, that was a tall task,

759
00:40:15,440 --> 00:40:18,880
Speaker 1: that was a hard sale. In particular, at the beginning

760
00:40:18,920 --> 00:40:20,960
Speaker 1: of this case, you saw people that worked for Diddy

761
00:40:21,040 --> 00:40:21,799
Speaker 1: gave up on him.

762
00:40:21,840 --> 00:40:23,280
Speaker 2: You saw companies that he.

763
00:40:24,680 --> 00:40:30,719
Speaker 1: Gave a lifeline, started to speak about things that could

764
00:40:30,760 --> 00:40:34,359
Speaker 1: have helped the federal government put him away. But they

765
00:40:34,400 --> 00:40:36,840
Speaker 1: applied to Rico law, if you asked me, in a

766
00:40:36,880 --> 00:40:40,640
Speaker 1: way that just wasn't gonna be conducive to the charges

767
00:40:40,680 --> 00:40:43,600
Speaker 1: that they presented or the evidence they presented. And so

768
00:40:44,080 --> 00:40:46,880
Speaker 1: again I want to make that clear. I'm not saying

769
00:40:47,120 --> 00:40:49,799
Speaker 1: or I don't think for the most part, and I

770
00:40:49,840 --> 00:40:52,879
Speaker 1: can't speak for everyone, but I don't think people are

771
00:40:53,880 --> 00:40:58,319
Speaker 1: intrigued with the fact that Diddy is a freakazord and

772
00:40:58,320 --> 00:41:00,719
Speaker 1: got with these men and male process to that shit

773
00:41:00,800 --> 00:41:03,520
Speaker 1: don't go away. He still gotta have a conversation about

774
00:41:03,520 --> 00:41:04,680
Speaker 1: that when he gets out of there.

775
00:41:05,160 --> 00:41:08,840
Speaker 2: That don't just go on the back burner. I don't think.

776
00:41:08,680 --> 00:41:11,040
Speaker 1: People are intrigued with that as much as they all

777
00:41:11,080 --> 00:41:14,960
Speaker 1: with every person I see the Fez get they get

778
00:41:14,960 --> 00:41:17,480
Speaker 1: a conviction, I ain't never saw nobody beat the Fiz.

779
00:41:17,719 --> 00:41:20,439
Speaker 1: The mob couldn't beat the Fizz. The mafia couldn't beat

780
00:41:20,440 --> 00:41:24,200
Speaker 1: the Fed, Yo, bru. Beating the Fez is a tall task.

781
00:41:24,320 --> 00:41:28,120
Speaker 1: Let's not act like it's almost like beating Michael Jordan

782
00:41:28,480 --> 00:41:30,880
Speaker 1: in his prime when they won seventy two games in

783
00:41:31,000 --> 00:41:33,680
Speaker 1: seventy three games, Like come on, when he went back

784
00:41:33,719 --> 00:41:37,359
Speaker 1: to back. Had Clyde drex let the Houston Rockets beat him,

785
00:41:37,400 --> 00:41:41,120
Speaker 1: then it would have been a conversation for Ages. This

786
00:41:41,239 --> 00:41:44,520
Speaker 1: man just beat them on the rico charge. In the rico,

787
00:41:44,920 --> 00:41:48,360
Speaker 1: you gotta also understand the law. The RICO is not

788
00:41:48,480 --> 00:41:53,560
Speaker 1: a law that you necessarily have to have a lot

789
00:41:53,600 --> 00:41:57,799
Speaker 1: of evidence. As it pertains to the Feds. To convict on,

790
00:41:58,520 --> 00:42:00,799
Speaker 1: you have to have predicate act. And if you ask

791
00:42:00,880 --> 00:42:04,360
Speaker 1: the federal government, it seems like they believe they presented

792
00:42:04,360 --> 00:42:08,799
Speaker 1: their case in a way where Yo, we presented four

793
00:42:08,800 --> 00:42:11,360
Speaker 1: to five predicate accent. All you need is too to

794
00:42:11,440 --> 00:42:16,600
Speaker 1: convict on the RICO. So them losing that case, in

795
00:42:16,640 --> 00:42:19,960
Speaker 1: particular with the RICO, I think is what was intriguing.

796
00:42:20,080 --> 00:42:22,560
Speaker 1: Not the fact that people are saying, oh man, we

797
00:42:22,719 --> 00:42:25,640
Speaker 1: co signing the fact that he liked me and do man,

798
00:42:25,840 --> 00:42:28,919
Speaker 1: I don't think that's the situation, at least from this side.

799
00:42:29,000 --> 00:42:32,560
Speaker 1: It ain't the situation. Let me be clean, let me

800
00:42:32,600 --> 00:42:34,200
Speaker 1: be loud about that. Pay attention.

801
00:42:35,040 --> 00:42:39,040
Speaker 8: So which room is mister comes It's the fourth bedroom,

802
00:42:39,120 --> 00:42:41,600
Speaker 8: the master suite, down the hall on the second floor.

803
00:42:43,000 --> 00:42:45,480
Speaker 8: And you took the food there. How many times you

804
00:42:45,520 --> 00:42:47,160
Speaker 8: say you take the food there to.

805
00:42:47,160 --> 00:42:47,640
Speaker 2: Him a week?

806
00:42:47,840 --> 00:42:50,640
Speaker 8: Well, if he's in the room all day, you understand

807
00:42:53,000 --> 00:42:54,959
Speaker 8: two or three times a day, or whenever he called

808
00:42:55,000 --> 00:42:59,400
Speaker 8: he wanted me to make him a cheeseburger with apple sauce,

809
00:43:00,800 --> 00:43:05,280
Speaker 8: whatever the case. So that's mister Cole's room. They could

810
00:43:05,400 --> 00:43:09,880
Speaker 8: establish that those guns came from mister Cole's room, and

811
00:43:10,440 --> 00:43:14,719
Speaker 8: under the federal law, because they was defaced, he was

812
00:43:15,200 --> 00:43:18,920
Speaker 8: a mandatory ten years. They didn't even.

813
00:43:18,880 --> 00:43:20,000
Speaker 2: Charge him with the guns.

814
00:43:20,280 --> 00:43:24,839
Speaker 8: They had the guns in the description, but they did

815
00:43:24,880 --> 00:43:30,120
Speaker 8: not charge him with illegal possession.

816
00:43:34,280 --> 00:43:36,640
Speaker 2: Here's something else that you know.

817
00:43:36,719 --> 00:43:39,360
Speaker 1: I was just speaking about this man, and sometimes I

818
00:43:39,440 --> 00:43:43,200
Speaker 1: have a hard time. Sometimes I have a hard time understanding.

819
00:43:43,239 --> 00:43:50,080
Speaker 1: And that is, you know, for Cassie, for the Jane does,

820
00:43:50,239 --> 00:43:55,200
Speaker 1: for the people that were involved. I understand them being hurt,

821
00:43:55,480 --> 00:43:58,239
Speaker 1: them being affected by the verdict not going that way.

822
00:43:58,360 --> 00:44:03,000
Speaker 1: People that have been intimately involved and hurt by Diddy,

823
00:44:03,520 --> 00:44:11,480
Speaker 1: I completely understand them having some vindictive attitudes towards whatever

824
00:44:11,600 --> 00:44:15,560
Speaker 1: has taken place. But when we look at some of

825
00:44:15,600 --> 00:44:19,480
Speaker 1: these guys who are on the outside of it, this

826
00:44:19,520 --> 00:44:21,919
Speaker 1: is where I have a hard time. Like a gene deal,

827
00:44:23,200 --> 00:44:26,160
Speaker 1: you haven't been around Diddy for quite some time. I'm

828
00:44:26,200 --> 00:44:28,319
Speaker 1: trying to understand, and again, I may bring him on

829
00:44:28,360 --> 00:44:30,640
Speaker 1: the platform to have some of these conversations. Why you're

830
00:44:30,640 --> 00:44:37,160
Speaker 1: so passionate and wanting this man to be in jail

831
00:44:37,239 --> 00:44:41,480
Speaker 1: and held accountable. And I think the opposite of what

832
00:44:41,640 --> 00:44:45,160
Speaker 1: he is criticizing, as it pertains to yo, y'all gonna

833
00:44:45,200 --> 00:44:48,759
Speaker 1: celebrate the guy, I think he's doing the opposite of that.

834
00:44:50,920 --> 00:44:51,080
Speaker 2: Now.

835
00:44:51,160 --> 00:44:56,320
Speaker 1: The behavior isn't celebratorial the same way that they are.

836
00:44:56,280 --> 00:44:57,640
Speaker 2: Quote unquote happy.

837
00:44:57,719 --> 00:45:00,880
Speaker 1: In his eyes, it feels like he lands on the

838
00:45:00,920 --> 00:45:03,720
Speaker 1: other side of that, and he's upset that the verdict

839
00:45:03,760 --> 00:45:06,759
Speaker 1: didn't go his way. And so if that is the case,

840
00:45:06,800 --> 00:45:11,480
Speaker 1: I don't understand how he doesn't understand the emotional factors

841
00:45:11,520 --> 00:45:15,680
Speaker 1: that are in place with this, because you're clearly upset

842
00:45:15,760 --> 00:45:21,640
Speaker 1: that the guy didn't get found guilty. So the opposite

843
00:45:21,680 --> 00:45:25,080
Speaker 1: of that is people being happy that he was not

844
00:45:25,320 --> 00:45:28,640
Speaker 1: found guilty. And so you guys are two p's in

845
00:45:28,719 --> 00:45:33,399
Speaker 1: the same part, and I don't think that either one

846
00:45:33,440 --> 00:45:37,520
Speaker 1: of them are justified, because again I'm not saying be

847
00:45:37,640 --> 00:45:41,640
Speaker 1: happy or mad that Diddy is in that situation or

848
00:45:41,680 --> 00:45:44,080
Speaker 1: he got found guilty or not guilty. What I'm saying

849
00:45:44,239 --> 00:45:46,960
Speaker 1: is I believe a lot of the coaches just intrigue

850
00:45:46,960 --> 00:45:49,080
Speaker 1: with the fact that the Feds came and they were

851
00:45:49,160 --> 00:45:53,279
Speaker 1: unsuccessful with the rico. This may be one of ten

852
00:45:53,360 --> 00:45:57,279
Speaker 1: cases in all of history that is beating the rico son.

853
00:45:58,239 --> 00:46:01,720
Speaker 1: They made the rico because John Gotti kept on whooping

854
00:46:01,760 --> 00:46:05,800
Speaker 1: them with these regular charges and so that's a history

855
00:46:05,840 --> 00:46:09,520
Speaker 1: behind the charge. And I just think that it's important

856
00:46:09,600 --> 00:46:16,480
Speaker 1: that people distinguish the difference between what they're viewing.

857
00:46:17,560 --> 00:46:19,719
Speaker 2: But it felt it feels like even with him, why

858
00:46:19,760 --> 00:46:21,400
Speaker 2: they didn't charge him with the guns. They could have

859
00:46:21,440 --> 00:46:22,400
Speaker 2: got him with the guns.

860
00:46:22,440 --> 00:46:25,640
Speaker 1: It's like, yo, brother, why are you so invested in

861
00:46:25,719 --> 00:46:27,960
Speaker 1: this man being put away for the rest of his life.

862
00:46:28,000 --> 00:46:30,320
Speaker 1: You already made a lot of money off interviews. You

863
00:46:31,120 --> 00:46:34,160
Speaker 1: aired out everything you possibly could have known about them.

864
00:46:35,120 --> 00:46:39,000
Speaker 1: This is when it starts to feel vindictive. You ain't

865
00:46:39,080 --> 00:46:43,319
Speaker 1: seen a man in ten, eleven, fifteen years. This is

866
00:46:43,360 --> 00:46:46,360
Speaker 1: what scares me about being in this situation that I'm in.

867
00:46:46,440 --> 00:46:48,360
Speaker 1: It's like, Yo, some of these people ain't saw you

868
00:46:48,400 --> 00:46:49,719
Speaker 1: in a decade, and they still have.

869
00:46:49,800 --> 00:46:53,080
Speaker 2: Come out and being like Yo, mano man. He left

870
00:46:53,160 --> 00:46:56,120
Speaker 2: us on Cleveland. Man, that left us right there about

871
00:46:56,320 --> 00:46:59,719
Speaker 2: the the sit go like, damn home, we ain't seen

872
00:46:59,719 --> 00:47:03,200
Speaker 2: each other in fifteen years. Y'all still thinking about that.

873
00:47:04,320 --> 00:47:06,880
Speaker 1: Y'all really got some hatred in y'all hard towards and

874
00:47:07,760 --> 00:47:10,160
Speaker 1: you'd have made all this money from these interviews, and

875
00:47:10,200 --> 00:47:11,839
Speaker 1: you still pushing the line of.

876
00:47:13,280 --> 00:47:15,040
Speaker 2: They could have got him like this, they should have

877
00:47:15,040 --> 00:47:15,719
Speaker 2: got him like that.

878
00:47:15,880 --> 00:47:22,279
Speaker 1: And again, my heart goes out to Cassie, right even

879
00:47:22,320 --> 00:47:24,680
Speaker 1: though I do believe that Cassie is in a very

880
00:47:24,960 --> 00:47:27,200
Speaker 1: unique situation and we're gonna talk about that here in

881
00:47:27,320 --> 00:47:31,560
Speaker 1: just one second, and any of the victims and any victims,

882
00:47:31,640 --> 00:47:34,759
Speaker 1: my heart goes out to victims. But when the federal

883
00:47:34,840 --> 00:47:38,480
Speaker 1: government put the case in front of a jury of

884
00:47:38,560 --> 00:47:41,680
Speaker 1: his peers and they come back with a verdict that's

885
00:47:41,719 --> 00:47:46,920
Speaker 1: not in your favor, and you were not sexually assaulted

886
00:47:47,000 --> 00:47:49,520
Speaker 1: That's what starts to make me think, brother, where you

887
00:47:49,960 --> 00:47:53,000
Speaker 1: did did he ever like? Let's have a real comment.

888
00:47:53,040 --> 00:47:55,919
Speaker 1: Do you need to heal from was did he ever?

889
00:47:56,480 --> 00:47:56,600
Speaker 10: Like?

890
00:47:57,840 --> 00:47:59,640
Speaker 1: Because it starts to feel like that some of these

891
00:47:59,680 --> 00:48:03,680
Speaker 1: people on the outside are doing more than just commentating

892
00:48:03,800 --> 00:48:07,720
Speaker 1: on the trial. And if you care that much about

893
00:48:07,760 --> 00:48:11,640
Speaker 1: people who you say that he is victimized, go take

894
00:48:11,680 --> 00:48:12,640
Speaker 1: care of the business.

895
00:48:13,000 --> 00:48:17,480
Speaker 2: You a man, You doing no interviews, ain't hpping it.

896
00:48:18,040 --> 00:48:21,640
Speaker 2: Go take care of the business. And I ain't calling

897
00:48:21,719 --> 00:48:24,040
Speaker 2: for the Vinus in any kind of way, but I'm saying,

898
00:48:24,120 --> 00:48:26,560
Speaker 2: as a man, if you feel like somebody you love

899
00:48:26,640 --> 00:48:29,759
Speaker 2: has been sexually assaulted in the federal regard like, I

900
00:48:29,760 --> 00:48:30,719
Speaker 2: don't know how us.

901
00:48:30,680 --> 00:48:35,120
Speaker 1: To handle it. You see what I'm saying. But it

902
00:48:35,200 --> 00:48:38,359
Speaker 1: starts to feel weird. And that's weird energy surrounding some

903
00:48:38,400 --> 00:48:41,720
Speaker 1: of these men. I even see ovon Vlad and salute

904
00:48:41,719 --> 00:48:45,400
Speaker 1: the Vlad. I have no issue with Lad, but I

905
00:48:45,440 --> 00:48:51,279
Speaker 1: see Vlad is interviewing five and six sex workers that

906
00:48:51,400 --> 00:48:54,600
Speaker 1: surrounding did it? And he keep asking about the Hey,

907
00:48:54,600 --> 00:48:55,919
Speaker 1: so what did he do with the nothing?

908
00:48:56,120 --> 00:48:58,600
Speaker 2: Did you? Where did you ejaculate that?

909
00:48:58,719 --> 00:49:02,239
Speaker 1: And I'm saying, damn, family, I get one, I get two,

910
00:49:02,360 --> 00:49:05,360
Speaker 1: I get But damn we up to four and five

911
00:49:06,840 --> 00:49:07,920
Speaker 1: sex workers?

912
00:49:07,960 --> 00:49:08,240
Speaker 2: Men?

913
00:49:08,719 --> 00:49:12,359
Speaker 1: You want to hear that much about We've heard the story, bro,

914
00:49:12,840 --> 00:49:15,000
Speaker 1: We done got two three people saying this is what

915
00:49:15,080 --> 00:49:17,080
Speaker 1: he doing. We know that what the boy owned, that

916
00:49:17,200 --> 00:49:19,799
Speaker 1: what he doing. He own some weird shit in there.

917
00:49:22,080 --> 00:49:25,319
Speaker 1: But I'm not sure what the motivation is to keep

918
00:49:25,360 --> 00:49:30,120
Speaker 1: bringing up more people and rehashing the same conversation. Yeah, no,

919
00:49:30,280 --> 00:49:33,319
Speaker 1: he said that too. No, he said the same thing. Yeah,

920
00:49:33,360 --> 00:49:35,600
Speaker 1: I'm gonna say the same thing. So what now what?

921
00:49:36,360 --> 00:49:39,040
Speaker 2: You just got another up here saying the same thing.

922
00:49:39,440 --> 00:49:42,040
Speaker 1: I'm like, even with Vlad, if I have a conversation

923
00:49:42,080 --> 00:49:44,000
Speaker 1: with him, I really want to ask him about that.

924
00:49:44,400 --> 00:49:46,080
Speaker 2: Yo, what is that about? Brother?

925
00:49:46,160 --> 00:49:49,759
Speaker 1: Help me understand what the motivation? Are you that intrigued

926
00:49:49,840 --> 00:49:53,480
Speaker 1: with the fact that it's already been solidified. They've already

927
00:49:53,600 --> 00:49:56,880
Speaker 1: validated that that's what he was doing some weird, freaking

928
00:49:57,000 --> 00:49:59,960
Speaker 1: dumb shit. Why do we need five different people say

929
00:50:00,200 --> 00:50:03,760
Speaker 1: the same thing? That's my question? Pay attention.

930
00:50:04,560 --> 00:50:10,560
Speaker 8: But I know this for a fact. He ain't getting

931
00:50:10,560 --> 00:50:19,640
Speaker 8: no time, sir. He ain't getting no less than five years.

932
00:50:20,719 --> 00:50:21,560
Speaker 2: He's gonna get.

933
00:50:21,400 --> 00:50:29,800
Speaker 8: The mandatory minimum or he gonna get more. He's gonna

934
00:50:29,800 --> 00:50:35,840
Speaker 8: get the mandatory minimum, or he's gonna get more, point blank.

935
00:50:37,600 --> 00:50:40,680
Speaker 8: So all you people that're celebrating and want to know

936
00:50:40,719 --> 00:50:46,319
Speaker 8: how Jeene Deal feel, I'm all.

937
00:50:46,280 --> 00:50:48,759
Speaker 1: Right, we're gonna get off of Gene Deal. Let me

938
00:50:48,800 --> 00:50:51,480
Speaker 1: say this just in response to what he just said.

939
00:50:51,520 --> 00:50:54,640
Speaker 1: There is no mandatory minimum on the charges that Diddy

940
00:50:54,800 --> 00:50:55,680
Speaker 1: was convicted of.

941
00:50:55,760 --> 00:50:59,920
Speaker 2: That's one two. There is a possibility that he gets times.

942
00:51:00,440 --> 00:51:03,879
Speaker 1: I do understand the argument that the Feds are gonna

943
00:51:03,920 --> 00:51:05,920
Speaker 1: fight him getting time served. I do want to be

944
00:51:06,000 --> 00:51:08,560
Speaker 1: clear about that for anyone that probably does have their

945
00:51:08,560 --> 00:51:10,640
Speaker 1: hopes up, and for Ditty, I think they need to

946
00:51:11,520 --> 00:51:15,600
Speaker 1: kind of center his expectations and give him some realistic

947
00:51:15,680 --> 00:51:18,759
Speaker 1: expectations that listen, we're gonna do our best, but the

948
00:51:18,800 --> 00:51:22,120
Speaker 1: government is gonna put up a fight. They have a

949
00:51:22,239 --> 00:51:25,480
Speaker 1: twenty year window to work with. Diddy doesn't have any

950
00:51:26,080 --> 00:51:30,000
Speaker 1: real criminal history that they can use against him to

951
00:51:30,080 --> 00:51:33,440
Speaker 1: boost some of the sentencing up. But I do believe

952
00:51:33,480 --> 00:51:35,640
Speaker 1: that they're gonna fight too for Nail to get as

953
00:51:35,719 --> 00:51:38,360
Speaker 1: much time as they.

954
00:51:38,200 --> 00:51:39,360
Speaker 2: Can from Diddy.

955
00:51:41,640 --> 00:51:43,640
Speaker 1: I don't know how the law works if they can

956
00:51:43,719 --> 00:51:46,840
Speaker 1: retry him on something else if they can bring new charges.

957
00:51:48,320 --> 00:51:51,000
Speaker 1: But I am in a situation where I do believe

958
00:51:51,800 --> 00:51:54,839
Speaker 1: the federal government is not happy with the outcome of

959
00:51:54,880 --> 00:51:55,440
Speaker 1: this trial.

960
00:51:57,000 --> 00:51:58,399
Speaker 2: Diddy as a marked.

961
00:51:58,120 --> 00:52:02,680
Speaker 1: Man in the Fed's eyes, and I don't think they

962
00:52:02,719 --> 00:52:05,200
Speaker 1: take this land down like they fought against the Bell

963
00:52:06,040 --> 00:52:08,480
Speaker 1: when you look. Listen to the judge on the day

964
00:52:08,600 --> 00:52:10,640
Speaker 1: of the verdict, because I was on the plane coming

965
00:52:10,680 --> 00:52:14,040
Speaker 1: back from LA and I'm listening to the judge or

966
00:52:14,080 --> 00:52:17,759
Speaker 1: listening to people read what the judge is saying, and

967
00:52:18,800 --> 00:52:21,239
Speaker 1: at first it felt like he was leaning towards letting

968
00:52:21,280 --> 00:52:21,799
Speaker 1: Diddy out.

969
00:52:21,840 --> 00:52:22,960
Speaker 2: He was like, you don't want to go.

970
00:52:22,920 --> 00:52:26,279
Speaker 1: Back to MDC, mister Combs, and did he like, no,

971
00:52:27,160 --> 00:52:30,200
Speaker 1: damn show don't so for him to even have that

972
00:52:30,360 --> 00:52:33,160
Speaker 1: conversation in that line of questioning, That's what I always

973
00:52:33,160 --> 00:52:36,760
Speaker 1: tell people that pay attention to the questions. The line

974
00:52:36,760 --> 00:52:39,880
Speaker 1: of questioning can kind of tell you what someone hard

975
00:52:40,000 --> 00:52:43,319
Speaker 1: and mind lies, and it's very important that you are

976
00:52:43,400 --> 00:52:47,040
Speaker 1: intuitive enough to pick up on some of the stuff

977
00:52:47,080 --> 00:52:49,640
Speaker 1: that they're putting down in particularly in that situation. I

978
00:52:49,680 --> 00:52:52,480
Speaker 1: felt this though, that he was leaning towards letting him

979
00:52:52,480 --> 00:52:54,080
Speaker 1: out on the bond if it was just him, but

980
00:52:54,120 --> 00:52:58,160
Speaker 1: then the FIZ came back with their documents and the

981
00:52:58,239 --> 00:53:02,880
Speaker 1: fact that he basically admitted to being a domestic abuser.

982
00:53:03,040 --> 00:53:05,799
Speaker 1: Part of his defense in the courtroom was, Yo, this

983
00:53:05,920 --> 00:53:09,239
Speaker 1: dude is an asshole. He's a violent man, but he's

984
00:53:09,280 --> 00:53:12,239
Speaker 1: not charged with being a violent man. They're charging him

985
00:53:12,280 --> 00:53:15,880
Speaker 1: with running a RICO conspirator that they're charging him with

986
00:53:15,960 --> 00:53:20,040
Speaker 1: racketeering and rico and some of these crimes that just

987
00:53:20,160 --> 00:53:22,920
Speaker 1: doesn't fit the bill. And so they kind of used

988
00:53:22,920 --> 00:53:25,680
Speaker 1: that to their advantage and they paid the price for

989
00:53:25,920 --> 00:53:29,239
Speaker 1: using that here on a bond hearing. But again, without that,

990
00:53:30,200 --> 00:53:31,879
Speaker 1: I'm not sure you can just come in the court

991
00:53:31,920 --> 00:53:33,760
Speaker 1: and act like Diddy was innocent.

992
00:53:33,440 --> 00:53:35,879
Speaker 2: You know, with the video going around, with.

993
00:53:35,920 --> 00:53:41,360
Speaker 1: Certain things being said and testified to I think that

994
00:53:41,440 --> 00:53:47,120
Speaker 1: they used the fact that he was domestically abusive on

995
00:53:47,160 --> 00:53:51,920
Speaker 1: their side to kind of confuse the jury, right, saying, well, yeah, no,

996
00:53:52,320 --> 00:53:54,640
Speaker 1: he was someone that will be on drugs and he

997
00:53:54,680 --> 00:53:58,760
Speaker 1: would have these fights with these women and do some heinous,

998
00:53:59,000 --> 00:54:03,040
Speaker 1: very heinous things women. But at the same time, that's

999
00:54:03,120 --> 00:54:06,720
Speaker 1: not what he's being charged with. And so it doesn't

1000
00:54:06,760 --> 00:54:09,440
Speaker 1: feel like they were saying he's completely innocent, and this

1001
00:54:09,560 --> 00:54:11,880
Speaker 1: is a sham. It's like, Yo, he did some things,

1002
00:54:11,920 --> 00:54:15,279
Speaker 1: but they're overreaching. And there's a reason for the overreaching here,

1003
00:54:15,320 --> 00:54:18,320
Speaker 1: and it's because, you know, they want the fortune and

1004
00:54:18,360 --> 00:54:21,319
Speaker 1: they want they want to seize his homes and hold

1005
00:54:21,400 --> 00:54:24,080
Speaker 1: him liable financially. A lot of these people are coming

1006
00:54:24,080 --> 00:54:26,440
Speaker 1: with civil suits, right, so they they kind of went

1007
00:54:26,560 --> 00:54:30,440
Speaker 1: down that road, and I think some of the residue

1008
00:54:32,040 --> 00:54:35,920
Speaker 1: that is left over from that defense played against Diddy

1009
00:54:35,960 --> 00:54:38,440
Speaker 1: with trying to get a bond. The other thing I

1010
00:54:38,440 --> 00:54:42,839
Speaker 1: want to speak about is where Cassie stands now that

1011
00:54:43,080 --> 00:54:49,480
Speaker 1: Diddy has been found not guilty on Rico and also

1012
00:54:49,560 --> 00:54:52,000
Speaker 1: some of the lawsuits, because in the event that he

1013
00:54:52,160 --> 00:54:57,160
Speaker 1: was found guilty for Rico charges, it would have strengthened

1014
00:54:57,200 --> 00:55:01,960
Speaker 1: every single civil lawsuit that they had in place. Basically

1015
00:55:02,000 --> 00:55:04,160
Speaker 1: would have made it a slam dunk because he's been

1016
00:55:04,239 --> 00:55:08,520
Speaker 1: held liable criminally, which the bar set much more higher

1017
00:55:08,800 --> 00:55:11,520
Speaker 1: to deem someone guilty in a criminal trial than it

1018
00:55:11,600 --> 00:55:14,360
Speaker 1: is in a civil trial. So the bar still loath

1019
00:55:14,480 --> 00:55:17,279
Speaker 1: for a civil trial, but the fact that he's not

1020
00:55:17,400 --> 00:55:20,200
Speaker 1: found guilty in the criminal trial kind of hurt a

1021
00:55:20,239 --> 00:55:24,480
Speaker 1: lot of those civil accusations and civil suits that they

1022
00:55:24,520 --> 00:55:27,719
Speaker 1: have in court on Diddy as we speak, and I

1023
00:55:27,800 --> 00:55:29,959
Speaker 1: want to be clear about that. But here's the other

1024
00:55:30,280 --> 00:55:37,320
Speaker 1: conundrum that I find interesting is that Wild Diddy never testified.

1025
00:55:38,800 --> 00:55:44,040
Speaker 1: He never testified, so he never admitted to any of

1026
00:55:44,080 --> 00:55:49,719
Speaker 1: these freak offs and sexcapades. He never admitted to any

1027
00:55:49,760 --> 00:55:54,480
Speaker 1: of that. But guess who did, Cassie. So while Cassie

1028
00:55:54,560 --> 00:55:57,439
Speaker 1: was on the stand and meanting to I paid the guy,

1029
00:55:57,480 --> 00:55:59,719
Speaker 1: and we did this, and I did that, and we

1030
00:55:59,800 --> 00:56:02,839
Speaker 1: did all of these different things that we were doing

1031
00:56:02,880 --> 00:56:05,480
Speaker 1: in the bedroom on these hotel nights or these frea

1032
00:56:05,560 --> 00:56:09,480
Speaker 1: ca alls. It opens her up for the civil suits.

1033
00:56:09,920 --> 00:56:12,840
Speaker 1: So now what do you see. You see some of

1034
00:56:12,880 --> 00:56:15,720
Speaker 1: the former sex workers come out to now suit Cassie,

1035
00:56:15,800 --> 00:56:18,040
Speaker 1: and it's gonna be extremely hard for her to get

1036
00:56:18,080 --> 00:56:21,920
Speaker 1: around the testimony that she went on the stand and

1037
00:56:21,960 --> 00:56:25,200
Speaker 1: said about Diddy to try to nail him to the cross. Now,

1038
00:56:25,320 --> 00:56:29,799
Speaker 1: maybe the nails that nails her to the cross. Pay

1039
00:56:29,840 --> 00:56:32,799
Speaker 1: attention to this first sex worker that has came out

1040
00:56:32,840 --> 00:56:35,920
Speaker 1: and filed a lawsuit against Cassie, and I expect a

1041
00:56:35,960 --> 00:56:37,440
Speaker 1: Domino effec pay attention.

1042
00:56:38,680 --> 00:56:41,640
Speaker 11: So good morning, I am Dave, the man who has

1043
00:56:41,760 --> 00:56:45,479
Speaker 11: just sued Cassandra Ventoa for damages involved in the Shawn

1044
00:56:45,600 --> 00:56:46,960
Speaker 11: called sex traffic Control.

1045
00:56:47,760 --> 00:56:49,240
Speaker 2: And I'm looking through.

1046
00:56:49,000 --> 00:56:51,200
Speaker 11: Social media and I see a lot of the women

1047
00:56:51,239 --> 00:56:54,080
Speaker 11: out there, particularly black women like myself, who choose to

1048
00:56:54,160 --> 00:56:56,759
Speaker 11: victim shan't me and try to do everything they can

1049
00:56:56,800 --> 00:56:59,280
Speaker 11: to discredit me, because the truth is that the loss

1050
00:56:59,320 --> 00:57:01,759
Speaker 11: of the Shawn Colme's trial was a loss to the

1051
00:57:01,800 --> 00:57:04,359
Speaker 11: Me too movement into hating women like the women who

1052
00:57:04,360 --> 00:57:07,160
Speaker 11: are trying to insult me. So let me tell you something,

1053
00:57:07,239 --> 00:57:09,160
Speaker 11: you women out there who would like to insult me.

1054
00:57:09,760 --> 00:57:12,880
Speaker 11: This is my story. I was paid by Cassie Cassandra

1055
00:57:12,960 --> 00:57:16,040
Speaker 11: Ventura for eight years to be her male provider. I

1056
00:57:16,080 --> 00:57:18,160
Speaker 11: didn't have to be the best looking guy. I was

1057
00:57:18,200 --> 00:57:20,480
Speaker 11: the best in bed. And because I was the best

1058
00:57:20,560 --> 00:57:24,200
Speaker 11: in bed, guess what I was given this arrangement. I

1059
00:57:24,320 --> 00:57:27,600
Speaker 11: was coerced, I was drugged. I was manipulated with promises

1060
00:57:27,640 --> 00:57:30,360
Speaker 11: of money and gifts for over a period of eight

1061
00:57:30,440 --> 00:57:33,320
Speaker 11: years to continue to be this woman's provider at her

1062
00:57:33,360 --> 00:57:36,880
Speaker 11: expense and at the expensive ditty. Now, at the time, legally,

1063
00:57:36,960 --> 00:57:39,040
Speaker 11: I didn't know my rights as well as I do now.

1064
00:57:39,440 --> 00:57:43,120
Speaker 2: I didn't create this conflict with Cassandra Ventoa. She created

1065
00:57:43,120 --> 00:57:43,480
Speaker 2: it with me.

1066
00:57:44,040 --> 00:57:46,200
Speaker 11: She's the one who decided to bring up things that

1067
00:57:46,280 --> 00:57:49,880
Speaker 11: happened over ten to fifteen years ago to hold Seancomb's

1068
00:57:49,880 --> 00:57:53,280
Speaker 11: accountable for what was a partial truth. She's the person

1069
00:57:53,280 --> 00:57:56,280
Speaker 11: who introduced me to the US Attorney's office. She's the

1070
00:57:56,360 --> 00:58:00,280
Speaker 11: person who told the US Attorney's office about our relationship. So,

1071
00:58:00,320 --> 00:58:02,880
Speaker 11: in essence, those out there who want to hate on me,

1072
00:58:03,400 --> 00:58:05,640
Speaker 11: who want to say that I'm attacking Cassie, you should

1073
00:58:05,680 --> 00:58:09,440
Speaker 11: realize the truth that Cassandra Ventoa, your idol, did this

1074
00:58:09,480 --> 00:58:13,040
Speaker 11: to herself. She exposed herself to liability when she got

1075
00:58:13,040 --> 00:58:15,120
Speaker 11: on the stand and decided to mention me as the

1076
00:58:15,120 --> 00:58:17,640
Speaker 11: male escort who was with her when she overdosed, and

1077
00:58:17,680 --> 00:58:20,120
Speaker 11: did he made her have sex with him? That was

1078
00:58:20,160 --> 00:58:23,040
Speaker 11: a lie, people, Cassie had just woke up from sleeping

1079
00:58:23,080 --> 00:58:25,920
Speaker 11: eight hours. Myself and Shawncombs were exhausted. We wanted to

1080
00:58:25,960 --> 00:58:29,720
Speaker 11: go home. Cassie's the one who forced that sexual encounter. People,

1081
00:58:29,760 --> 00:58:31,880
Speaker 11: she tells you that Shawn Colmes made her have sex

1082
00:58:31,920 --> 00:58:34,360
Speaker 11: on her menstrual cycle. I can't speak for anyone else

1083
00:58:34,400 --> 00:58:37,040
Speaker 11: but myself, but I know the one time that did

1084
00:58:37,040 --> 00:58:40,480
Speaker 11: happen that Shawn Colmes was not responsible for that. Cassie,

1085
00:58:40,520 --> 00:58:44,640
Speaker 11: and a drunken, intoxicated, hormonally in balanced state due to

1086
00:58:44,640 --> 00:58:48,200
Speaker 11: her period, manipulated and forced herself on me during her

1087
00:58:48,240 --> 00:58:50,680
Speaker 11: mentru cycle. And what I mean by that is I

1088
00:58:50,720 --> 00:58:53,080
Speaker 11: had no knowledge she was on her menstrual cycle because

1089
00:58:53,120 --> 00:58:56,120
Speaker 11: the room was completely dark. She manipulated the room, she

1090
00:58:56,280 --> 00:58:59,120
Speaker 11: manipulated the environment to get what she wanted, and then

1091
00:58:59,160 --> 00:59:01,840
Speaker 11: she totally got like I was the one who should

1092
00:59:01,880 --> 00:59:04,640
Speaker 11: have been grateful you're on your period. That's disgusting and

1093
00:59:04,680 --> 00:59:07,640
Speaker 11: I deserved more respect than that as a man. If

1094
00:59:07,680 --> 00:59:10,160
Speaker 11: I had laid down with a woman and forced myself

1095
00:59:10,200 --> 00:59:12,320
Speaker 11: on her, hand orgasm in her and she got up

1096
00:59:12,360 --> 00:59:14,440
Speaker 11: and it was leaking out of her, guess what I

1097
00:59:14,480 --> 00:59:17,840
Speaker 11: would have raped her. So by statute by case law definition,

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00:59:17,920 --> 00:59:21,200
Speaker 11: Cassandra Vento is sexually assaulted me. I'm not looking to

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00:59:21,240 --> 00:59:23,680
Speaker 11: destroy Cassie. I've given Cassie more than a year to

1100
00:59:23,720 --> 00:59:27,040
Speaker 11: settle this before things got out of control. The problem

1101
00:59:27,120 --> 00:59:29,360
Speaker 11: is that she's being supported by women like you who

1102
00:59:29,360 --> 00:59:33,320
Speaker 11: would choose to attack male victims instead of accept the truth,

1103
00:59:33,520 --> 00:59:35,400
Speaker 11: which is that a woman could have lied to get

1104
00:59:35,440 --> 00:59:37,600
Speaker 11: revenge on the ex boyfriend who broke her heart and

1105
00:59:37,640 --> 00:59:40,280
Speaker 11: hurt her. It happens people. They say, hell hath no

1106
00:59:40,960 --> 00:59:43,400
Speaker 11: fury like a woman's scorn. And that's true. If you

1107
00:59:43,680 --> 00:59:45,960
Speaker 11: hurt some women, they will do everything in their power.

1108
00:59:46,000 --> 00:59:47,760
Speaker 11: If you hurt some men, they'll do everything in their

1109
00:59:47,800 --> 00:59:50,000
Speaker 11: power to hurt you. But I want to end this

1110
00:59:50,080 --> 00:59:53,640
Speaker 11: by saying this, Cassie did this to herself. They say,

1111
00:59:53,720 --> 00:59:55,960
Speaker 11: he who built, he who sets out on the course

1112
00:59:55,960 --> 00:59:57,680
Speaker 11: of revenge, should dig two graves.

1113
00:59:58,120 --> 00:59:58,440
Speaker 2: People.

1114
00:59:58,520 --> 01:00:00,960
Speaker 11: Cassie dug the grave. That is clear in Howard herself.

1115
01:00:01,360 --> 01:00:04,080
Speaker 11: Cassie got understand trying to destroy Diddy. She should have

1116
01:00:04,120 --> 01:00:06,520
Speaker 11: took her twenty thirty million dollars and walked into the

1117
01:00:06,560 --> 01:00:10,480
Speaker 11: sunset people. She should have never gotten understand and created

1118
01:00:10,520 --> 01:00:14,800
Speaker 11: further liability for herself by telling more of the lie

1119
01:00:14,840 --> 01:00:17,040
Speaker 11: that she created to get this man sent to prison

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01:00:17,080 --> 01:00:19,480
Speaker 11: for his life. She made a mistake when she got

1121
01:00:19,520 --> 01:00:22,200
Speaker 11: understand people. She made a mistake when she got understand

1122
01:00:22,240 --> 01:00:25,200
Speaker 11: and lied about the events with Clayton Howard. Clayton Howard

1123
01:00:25,240 --> 01:00:28,280
Speaker 11: is a victim of Cassandra Ventura. Clayton Howard didn't ask

1124
01:00:28,320 --> 01:00:31,040
Speaker 11: to be in a relationship with Cassandra Ventour while she

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01:00:31,120 --> 01:00:33,360
Speaker 11: was sleeping with numerous men per week.

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01:00:33,760 --> 01:00:34,280
Speaker 2: I get it.

1127
01:00:34,440 --> 01:00:37,200
Speaker 11: You all think I was a nasty mail prostitute sleeping

1128
01:00:37,240 --> 01:00:39,320
Speaker 11: with women, all different women all the time.

1129
01:00:39,320 --> 01:00:40,640
Speaker 2: It actually didn't work like that.

1130
01:00:40,800 --> 01:00:43,560
Speaker 11: To have certain types of people that can pay you

1131
01:00:43,680 --> 01:00:45,680
Speaker 11: that well, which you really have to do, is you

1132
01:00:45,720 --> 01:00:48,960
Speaker 11: have to focus on people who are affluent, and affluent

1133
01:00:49,000 --> 01:00:51,280
Speaker 11: people don't engage in activities like that. So I might

1134
01:00:51,320 --> 01:00:53,200
Speaker 11: have had a client once a month. The truth is

1135
01:00:53,280 --> 01:00:55,840
Speaker 11: I was only a male escort for two years. I

1136
01:00:55,920 --> 01:00:59,240
Speaker 11: continued in the profession because Cassie and Diddy continue to

1137
01:00:59,280 --> 01:01:02,120
Speaker 11: pay me well, and I was an ex Khan. I

1138
01:01:02,160 --> 01:01:04,840
Speaker 11: needed money. Yes, I was trapped in the situation. I'll

1139
01:01:04,840 --> 01:01:07,040
Speaker 11: admit that I didn't know what to do. But does

1140
01:01:07,080 --> 01:01:09,240
Speaker 11: that mean I should be victim shamed because the same

1141
01:01:09,280 --> 01:01:11,640
Speaker 11: thing that happened to women all the time happen to

1142
01:01:11,680 --> 01:01:12,320
Speaker 11: me as a man.

1143
01:01:12,760 --> 01:01:12,840
Speaker 10: No.

1144
01:01:13,360 --> 01:01:15,720
Speaker 11: And for those women out there, for you black women

1145
01:01:15,880 --> 01:01:18,000
Speaker 11: who choose to shame me as a black man for

1146
01:01:18,040 --> 01:01:20,800
Speaker 11: telling my truth, you should be a shamed of yourself.

1147
01:01:21,760 --> 01:01:23,720
Speaker 11: That's probably pretty much all I have to say. You

1148
01:01:23,760 --> 01:01:25,880
Speaker 11: will not see me too much in the media. I

1149
01:01:25,920 --> 01:01:28,040
Speaker 11: don't need the public to believe me. I just need

1150
01:01:28,040 --> 01:01:30,240
Speaker 11: a jury of my peers and twelve people to believe

1151
01:01:30,280 --> 01:01:32,400
Speaker 11: me in the court. And thanks to the testimony of

1152
01:01:32,440 --> 01:01:34,920
Speaker 11: Cassie during the Child of Seawan Colmes, I have that.

1153
01:01:35,440 --> 01:01:38,200
Speaker 11: Thank you for watching stop Victim Shaman's thank you.

1154
01:01:39,480 --> 01:01:42,120
Speaker 9: I almost puted, but let me stay focused.

1155
01:01:44,160 --> 01:01:47,720
Speaker 2: I ain't even gonna lie to you. Dog, I ain't

1156
01:01:47,760 --> 01:01:50,760
Speaker 2: gonna lie to you. I almost puted, but let me

1157
01:01:50,800 --> 01:01:51,600
Speaker 2: stay focused.

1158
01:01:52,640 --> 01:01:55,280
Speaker 9: I almost peuwed, but let me stay focused.

1159
01:01:55,640 --> 01:01:58,160
Speaker 2: Number one that this is what this is?

1160
01:01:58,200 --> 01:02:01,680
Speaker 1: What to me is what did he get these folks shit?

1161
01:02:01,800 --> 01:02:01,960
Speaker 10: Man?

1162
01:02:02,000 --> 01:02:05,120
Speaker 1: Then nigga here got the white frosts, you know what

1163
01:02:05,120 --> 01:02:07,720
Speaker 1: I mean? Like it's smoking back to back to back

1164
01:02:07,800 --> 01:02:09,960
Speaker 1: to back. Just got up out the bed, like, bro,

1165
01:02:10,200 --> 01:02:13,760
Speaker 1: come on, what y'all was in there doing this? That's

1166
01:02:13,800 --> 01:02:16,880
Speaker 1: what be freaking nasty to me, Like slim y'all was

1167
01:02:16,880 --> 01:02:20,520
Speaker 1: in there on some slimy shit home like y'all had

1168
01:02:20,600 --> 01:02:23,920
Speaker 1: these kind of in there. Man, Come on, man, only

1169
01:02:24,000 --> 01:02:26,439
Speaker 1: a man. I'm thinking they play us.

1170
01:02:26,480 --> 01:02:26,680
Speaker 3: Man?

1171
01:02:26,760 --> 01:02:29,520
Speaker 1: What they doing man? And shout out to the homeboy.

1172
01:02:29,520 --> 01:02:31,960
Speaker 1: He finnah get paid. You know what I'm saying. He

1173
01:02:32,120 --> 01:02:35,280
Speaker 1: definitely gonna get paid. And when I say shout out,

1174
01:02:35,320 --> 01:02:37,360
Speaker 1: I mean I see what he's doing. Salute to what

1175
01:02:37,400 --> 01:02:41,520
Speaker 1: you're doing. Cause again he's a victim as well. And

1176
01:02:41,600 --> 01:02:46,120
Speaker 1: again I said, my heart goes out to all victims.

1177
01:02:46,520 --> 01:02:49,520
Speaker 1: But I think I think that this is a cautionary

1178
01:02:49,600 --> 01:02:53,960
Speaker 1: tell because while did, he did not get on the

1179
01:02:54,000 --> 01:02:57,880
Speaker 1: stand in the mid to basically any involvement. There is

1180
01:02:58,040 --> 01:03:00,720
Speaker 1: hours and hours of testimony of ca being the one

1181
01:03:00,760 --> 01:03:04,200
Speaker 1: that paid prostitutes, linked them up, called them when Diddy

1182
01:03:04,320 --> 01:03:06,320
Speaker 1: wasn't there. It's going to be extremely hard for her

1183
01:03:06,320 --> 01:03:09,960
Speaker 1: to keep that thirty million dollars. So now at the end,

1184
01:03:10,280 --> 01:03:12,760
Speaker 1: there is a scenario or there is a world where

1185
01:03:12,800 --> 01:03:15,800
Speaker 1: Cassie may be drained of her finances that she got

1186
01:03:15,840 --> 01:03:19,920
Speaker 1: through this by other people like these sex workers who

1187
01:03:19,960 --> 01:03:23,200
Speaker 1: were involved. Because if he wins, I imagine someone else

1188
01:03:23,240 --> 01:03:26,000
Speaker 1: comes out, and another person comes out, and another person

1189
01:03:26,080 --> 01:03:29,200
Speaker 1: comes out. Because Diddy still has a fighting chance in

1190
01:03:29,280 --> 01:03:33,520
Speaker 1: court with some of the best lawyers in the world, Cassie,

1191
01:03:34,120 --> 01:03:37,120
Speaker 1: if you're asking me, has no way to go around

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01:03:37,240 --> 01:03:42,720
Speaker 1: what she testified to and the not guilty verdict lends

1193
01:03:42,760 --> 01:03:49,040
Speaker 1: itself to Ditty's defense, and the testimony from Cassie lends

1194
01:03:49,120 --> 01:03:53,280
Speaker 1: itself to her being not only involved, but a co

1195
01:03:53,280 --> 01:03:57,800
Speaker 1: conspirator and it came out of her own mouth, so

1196
01:03:57,880 --> 01:04:01,080
Speaker 1: you really there's no way to back track or backpedal

1197
01:04:01,640 --> 01:04:03,800
Speaker 1: or to deny those things. And I think she's in

1198
01:04:03,840 --> 01:04:07,280
Speaker 1: a very weird place as of now, and I know

1199
01:04:07,320 --> 01:04:11,480
Speaker 1: she's confused because she gets understanding things like, Yo, I'm

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01:04:11,480 --> 01:04:14,840
Speaker 1: getting on the stand, and I'm sure that with my testimony,

1201
01:04:15,000 --> 01:04:17,960
Speaker 1: this is gonna help do what we expected to do,

1202
01:04:19,320 --> 01:04:25,840
Speaker 1: which is convict him of the rico and the sex

1203
01:04:25,920 --> 01:04:31,920
Speaker 1: trafficking charges. And unfortunately for her, it just did not

1204
01:04:32,080 --> 01:04:35,000
Speaker 1: paying out that way. And I think I think it's

1205
01:04:35,080 --> 01:04:41,040
Speaker 1: more surprising the pool of people that they were pulling from. Right,

1206
01:04:41,120 --> 01:04:44,400
Speaker 1: the physical appearance of this gentleman with all of the

1207
01:04:44,440 --> 01:04:47,160
Speaker 1: white shit around his mouth is like, yo, y'all was

1208
01:04:47,200 --> 01:04:49,800
Speaker 1: in there letting then that better not kiss my girl.

1209
01:04:49,800 --> 01:04:51,480
Speaker 1: If he kissed it my girl, I don't want to

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01:04:51,560 --> 01:04:54,800
Speaker 1: know more. I don't even want to know more of it.

1211
01:04:55,080 --> 01:04:57,480
Speaker 1: If he kissed my woman, I don't even want to

1212
01:04:57,560 --> 01:05:01,479
Speaker 1: know more. He esthetically, I ain't rup I don't even

1213
01:05:01,520 --> 01:05:04,880
Speaker 1: want her no more, really can't no order, it's my girl.

1214
01:05:04,920 --> 01:05:08,760
Speaker 1: But in specific, man, come on, man, and he know

1215
01:05:08,960 --> 01:05:10,880
Speaker 1: he said, man, I ain't got to be the best looking.

1216
01:05:11,040 --> 01:05:12,960
Speaker 2: I was in that throwing dick. You hear me.

1217
01:05:13,720 --> 01:05:17,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, I was in there throwing it and she wanted it,

1218
01:05:18,240 --> 01:05:20,480
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. But I'm just wondering, what

1219
01:05:20,520 --> 01:05:22,760
Speaker 1: did it? What y'all pulling from? Where y'all getting this

1220
01:05:22,880 --> 01:05:25,600
Speaker 1: kind of shit at? Man, this shit is some weird

1221
01:05:25,640 --> 01:05:26,520
Speaker 1: shit going on.

1222
01:05:26,680 --> 01:05:26,880
Speaker 10: Man.

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01:05:27,160 --> 01:05:29,600
Speaker 1: Again, my heart goes out to all the victims. We're

1224
01:05:29,640 --> 01:05:31,840
Speaker 1: gonna move on from this. This really wasn't even on

1225
01:05:31,880 --> 01:05:34,280
Speaker 1: the docket. I really wanted to speak about Chicago, and

1226
01:05:34,320 --> 01:05:37,880
Speaker 1: we're gonna get to Chicago right now. So before we

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01:05:38,000 --> 01:05:41,480
Speaker 1: roll this clip from the news up in Chicago, I

1228
01:05:41,560 --> 01:05:43,640
Speaker 1: just want to let you guys know what happened on

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01:05:43,680 --> 01:05:47,240
Speaker 1: A mass shooting erupted outside of Artists Restaurant in Lounge

1230
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Speaker 1: in Chicago River North, right after rapper Mellow Bucks was

1231
01:05:52,320 --> 01:05:56,160
Speaker 1: holding her album release party for Hollywood at around eleven PM.

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01:05:56,240 --> 01:05:59,880
Speaker 1: OR dark vehicle pulled up with multiple people inside, opening

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01:06:00,200 --> 01:06:04,240
Speaker 1: fire into the crowd. Four people, two men twenty four

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01:06:04,240 --> 01:06:07,400
Speaker 1: and twenty five and two women twenty six and twenty seven,

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01:06:07,480 --> 01:06:12,280
Speaker 1: were killed, while fourteen others were injured, some critically injured.

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Speaker 1: Among these victims was Mellow Buck's boyfriend and a close friend.

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01:06:17,680 --> 01:06:21,760
Speaker 1: Police recover both hand guns and rifle casings, with no

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01:06:21,960 --> 01:06:26,200
Speaker 1: arrests yet they're calling it cowardly and possibly targeted. The

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01:06:26,280 --> 01:06:30,560
Speaker 1: venue has since been shut down pending investigation. I want

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01:06:30,600 --> 01:06:33,520
Speaker 1: to roll this clip from the news up in Chicago

1241
01:06:33,600 --> 01:06:36,200
Speaker 1: before we get into some of the commentary, and I

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01:06:36,240 --> 01:06:38,400
Speaker 1: send my hearts out to Chicago. We're going to have

1243
01:06:38,440 --> 01:06:42,040
Speaker 1: a real, real deep conversation today about this. Pay attention.

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01:06:42,160 --> 01:06:44,680
Speaker 12: So we begin with breaking news out of Chicago's River

1245
01:06:44,800 --> 01:06:48,600
Speaker 12: North neighborhood. That's where police say eighteen people were shot

1246
01:06:48,640 --> 01:06:52,240
Speaker 12: in a deadly mass shooting overnight. NBC five Sondra Torres

1247
01:06:52,320 --> 01:06:55,680
Speaker 12: is live for us at the Senior Chicago and Franklin. Sondra,

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01:06:57,520 --> 01:06:58,160
Speaker 12: Hey there, Lisa.

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01:06:58,320 --> 01:07:01,320
Speaker 13: We have confirmed with Chicago police exactly what you just said.

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01:07:01,320 --> 01:07:05,720
Speaker 13: Eighteen people shot, four people dead after this incident that

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01:07:05,800 --> 01:07:09,600
Speaker 13: happened here outside of a restaurant lounge on Chicago Avenue.

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01:07:09,640 --> 01:07:11,000
Speaker 13: And as I step out of the way, you can

1253
01:07:11,000 --> 01:07:13,280
Speaker 13: see exactly where this is located, very close.

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01:07:13,080 --> 01:07:14,560
Speaker 4: To Franklin near the l stop.

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Speaker 13: And right now all you can see all that's left

1256
01:07:17,880 --> 01:07:21,120
Speaker 13: is the red carpet that was outside of the establishment

1257
01:07:21,240 --> 01:07:24,640
Speaker 13: for a party that took place last night here for

1258
01:07:24,800 --> 01:07:29,360
Speaker 13: a local female rapper. Now video shows a chaotic scene

1259
01:07:29,360 --> 01:07:32,680
Speaker 13: moments after the shooting took place, with police on the

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01:07:32,720 --> 01:07:36,680
Speaker 13: scene and people trying to get help for their friends

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01:07:36,680 --> 01:07:40,160
Speaker 13: and loved ones. Chicago Police confirmed that around eleven pm,

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01:07:40,560 --> 01:07:44,080
Speaker 13: someone started shooting from a dark colored vehicle towards the

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01:07:44,120 --> 01:07:47,480
Speaker 13: crowds that were outside again for this party that was

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01:07:47,520 --> 01:07:50,800
Speaker 13: for rapper Mellow Bucks. She is a local rapper here

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01:07:51,120 --> 01:07:54,400
Speaker 13: and she posteds on social media that her boyfriend and

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01:07:54,440 --> 01:07:55,360
Speaker 13: a friend were shot.

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Speaker 2: We have confirmed with the.

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Speaker 13: Mayor's Office of Community Safety that the rappers boyfriend and

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01:08:00,880 --> 01:08:04,520
Speaker 13: best friend both passed away. Now here's how people in

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01:08:04,560 --> 01:08:07,840
Speaker 13: the neighborhood near the scene reacted seeing victims in need

1271
01:08:08,080 --> 01:08:10,560
Speaker 13: of help, a gunfire.

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01:08:10,440 --> 01:08:13,120
Speaker 2: And then and next thing you know, a whole bunch

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01:08:13,120 --> 01:08:16,480
Speaker 2: of police officers driving by bass and the las Meyer.

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01:08:16,240 --> 01:08:17,720
Speaker 10: And Rescue traumatized.

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01:08:17,760 --> 01:08:21,280
Speaker 4: And let's just show.

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01:08:23,560 --> 01:08:23,800
Speaker 9: Now.

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01:08:23,840 --> 01:08:29,640
Speaker 13: Overnight, families have been gathering at local hospitals, including Northwestern,

1278
01:08:29,680 --> 01:08:33,200
Speaker 13: where there's also a chaotic scene as family and friends

1279
01:08:33,479 --> 01:08:36,479
Speaker 13: try to get more information about their loved ones. We

1280
01:08:36,560 --> 01:08:40,080
Speaker 13: know that thirteen women were shot, five men were shot,

1281
01:08:40,160 --> 01:08:43,080
Speaker 13: and as we said four have died from their injuries.

1282
01:08:43,560 --> 01:08:46,240
Speaker 13: As you look out here live once again, you can

1283
01:08:46,280 --> 01:08:50,040
Speaker 13: see where this is directly next to the L stop

1284
01:08:50,080 --> 01:08:53,960
Speaker 13: on Chicago Avenue. There are a number of surveillance cameras

1285
01:08:54,120 --> 01:08:57,400
Speaker 13: outside of this that may have captured exactly what happened

1286
01:08:57,400 --> 01:08:59,960
Speaker 13: around in lepid Clock last night. Of course, this is

1287
01:09:00,160 --> 01:09:04,000
Speaker 13: all part of the investigation. We know from Chicago Police

1288
01:09:04,280 --> 01:09:07,560
Speaker 13: that at this time they are still looking for the shooters.

1289
01:09:07,960 --> 01:09:12,240
Speaker 13: Reporting live from the River North neighborhood, Sandra Torres, NBC five.

1290
01:09:12,120 --> 01:09:14,360
Speaker 12: News, Sandra, thank you so much for that update.

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01:09:14,880 --> 01:09:21,480
Speaker 1: So as you see on the screen, mellow Bucks boyfriend

1292
01:09:22,000 --> 01:09:27,000
Speaker 1: was actually killed as well, and she speaks out after

1293
01:09:27,000 --> 01:09:29,680
Speaker 1: her boyfriend was killed in that drive by shooting, and

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01:09:29,720 --> 01:09:33,920
Speaker 1: this is what she said. She made a post with

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01:09:34,200 --> 01:09:36,479
Speaker 1: a picture of her and him, and we was having

1296
01:09:36,520 --> 01:09:38,479
Speaker 1: so much fun in our private little life.

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01:09:39,000 --> 01:09:41,960
Speaker 2: Couldn't leave each other. Long glue to my hip. Every day.

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01:09:42,000 --> 01:09:46,439
Speaker 2: It's not a night we ain't spend together. I'm so angry.

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01:09:46,960 --> 01:09:47,679
Speaker 2: You was woke.

1300
01:09:48,240 --> 01:09:50,880
Speaker 1: I had your hand until I couldn't you talk to

1301
01:09:50,920 --> 01:09:52,639
Speaker 1: me clearly? I don't get it.

1302
01:09:54,000 --> 01:09:54,200
Speaker 2: Up.

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01:09:56,840 --> 01:09:59,719
Speaker 1: Six hundred Breezy, who was just coming off of being shot.

1304
01:09:59,760 --> 01:10:03,160
Speaker 1: His elf speaks out and says, y'all shot all of

1305
01:10:03,160 --> 01:10:09,080
Speaker 1: them women in words and b words for real, get

1306
01:10:09,120 --> 01:10:11,439
Speaker 1: out their car and get up on your target, innocent

1307
01:10:11,520 --> 01:10:16,679
Speaker 1: women and kids. You get no points for that, you flats,

1308
01:10:18,000 --> 01:10:20,160
Speaker 1: he said, But you in words ain't had no structure

1309
01:10:20,160 --> 01:10:23,080
Speaker 1: of big homie. So y'all born goof is with no guidance,

1310
01:10:23,080 --> 01:10:25,080
Speaker 1: ain't gonna die the same goof for you being your

1311
01:10:25,240 --> 01:10:28,520
Speaker 1: entire life. And so you start to see the outpouring

1312
01:10:28,640 --> 01:10:34,720
Speaker 1: of people basically speaking to man, why would y'all do

1313
01:10:34,800 --> 01:10:38,959
Speaker 1: that to these young people. Here's another video.

1314
01:10:47,680 --> 01:10:48,360
Speaker 2: That's blood.

1315
01:10:48,439 --> 01:11:01,000
Speaker 1: That's blood, so you would notice that they would drop it.

1316
01:11:01,280 --> 01:11:07,080
Speaker 1: They were dropping their location and different things like that,

1317
01:11:07,120 --> 01:11:09,120
Speaker 1: which was very interesting. I don't want to play the

1318
01:11:09,200 --> 01:11:16,120
Speaker 1: video the actual shooting, but here here's some of the aftermath,

1319
01:11:43,080 --> 01:11:46,960
Speaker 1: very sad situation that I want to speak to.

1320
01:11:54,840 --> 01:11:54,920
Speaker 2: You.

1321
01:11:54,920 --> 01:11:57,439
Speaker 1: Gotta cut that out because it's a little too gruesome.

1322
01:12:01,000 --> 01:12:06,840
Speaker 1: Here's a post for Mellow Bucks. Also, damn Shorty, my

1323
01:12:06,960 --> 01:12:11,000
Speaker 1: mi dog, my brother. You know, Vante was two people.

1324
01:12:11,040 --> 01:12:13,040
Speaker 1: I'm so lost. I can't believe I lost both of

1325
01:12:13,120 --> 01:12:19,720
Speaker 1: y'all in one night. Best friend and boyfriend was tragically

1326
01:12:19,840 --> 01:12:26,479
Speaker 1: killed in this in this situation, and I guess today,

1327
01:12:26,800 --> 01:12:29,000
Speaker 1: you know, I want to have a conversation with Chicago,

1328
01:12:29,160 --> 01:12:31,599
Speaker 1: not even just Chicago, with our entire culture.

1329
01:12:31,760 --> 01:12:31,960
Speaker 6: Right.

1330
01:12:32,000 --> 01:12:34,439
Speaker 1: I haven't been in here in a while, so excuse

1331
01:12:34,479 --> 01:12:37,519
Speaker 1: me if I fum all over my words, or if

1332
01:12:37,520 --> 01:12:42,800
Speaker 1: I'm not as clear as I usually am. You know,

1333
01:12:42,920 --> 01:12:45,800
Speaker 1: I'm a little rusty with being on the microphone, but

1334
01:12:46,479 --> 01:12:50,360
Speaker 1: I was called on to speak as it pertains to

1335
01:12:50,439 --> 01:12:56,280
Speaker 1: this scenario. Number One, my heart goes out to anyone

1336
01:12:56,320 --> 01:12:59,320
Speaker 1: that lost their lives, the people that was affected, shot

1337
01:13:02,320 --> 01:13:06,680
Speaker 1: and just harmed by this situation, the friends and families

1338
01:13:07,600 --> 01:13:12,480
Speaker 1: of the people that even live in Chicago.

1339
01:13:14,040 --> 01:13:14,759
Speaker 2: There is.

1340
01:13:17,000 --> 01:13:23,280
Speaker 1: A stench on Chicago that you can't smell from the inside.

1341
01:13:25,080 --> 01:13:29,160
Speaker 1: And somewhere along the lines, you know, we're all black,

1342
01:13:29,320 --> 01:13:31,479
Speaker 1: we all come from the inner City, we all come

1343
01:13:31,520 --> 01:13:36,040
Speaker 1: from the ghetto, you know, And we hear sometimes that, yo,

1344
01:13:36,120 --> 01:13:38,360
Speaker 1: the hood is just the hood, no matter where you go.

1345
01:13:38,439 --> 01:13:41,040
Speaker 1: And the more I hear that and I understand it,

1346
01:13:41,080 --> 01:13:45,240
Speaker 1: and I've been all across this country, I'm starting to

1347
01:13:45,280 --> 01:13:47,839
Speaker 1: think that Chicago is just a little bit different.

1348
01:13:47,880 --> 01:13:49,479
Speaker 2: And I don't say that in a good way.

1349
01:13:49,520 --> 01:13:52,799
Speaker 1: And also, we got this weird obsession or this weird

1350
01:13:53,040 --> 01:13:58,479
Speaker 1: interaction that we have with death, with killing each other,

1351
01:13:58,600 --> 01:14:03,360
Speaker 1: with standing on this bullshit business. You know, I send

1352
01:14:03,400 --> 01:14:06,200
Speaker 1: prayers out to Chicago as a whole, because again I

1353
01:14:06,320 --> 01:14:09,600
Speaker 1: just interview Herbo. I'm looking forward to speaking to a

1354
01:14:09,640 --> 01:14:12,839
Speaker 1: lot of a lot more to people out of Chicago who.

1355
01:14:14,320 --> 01:14:15,840
Speaker 2: Have made their way.

1356
01:14:17,800 --> 01:14:22,120
Speaker 1: And trying to make that way because the mindset that

1357
01:14:22,200 --> 01:14:24,720
Speaker 1: you must have to have to make it out of

1358
01:14:24,760 --> 01:14:27,360
Speaker 1: Chicago if, in my opinion, it's a little different than

1359
01:14:27,400 --> 01:14:31,880
Speaker 1: anywhere else, but you got to sharpen your sword. You

1360
01:14:31,920 --> 01:14:35,000
Speaker 1: got to sharpen your sword man to shatter the norm. Right,

1361
01:14:36,400 --> 01:14:39,760
Speaker 1: A lot of people don't understand, and some of us

1362
01:14:39,840 --> 01:14:43,040
Speaker 1: don't understand, even black people, so I know Middle America,

1363
01:14:44,080 --> 01:14:46,759
Speaker 1: even the police, the federal government, a lot of people

1364
01:14:46,800 --> 01:14:51,800
Speaker 1: don't understand what it's like to be raised in the

1365
01:14:51,840 --> 01:14:56,040
Speaker 1: war zone. And you gotta pay attention to the words

1366
01:14:56,080 --> 01:14:58,920
Speaker 1: I'm using because I do this for a living, and

1367
01:14:58,960 --> 01:15:00,719
Speaker 1: so I'm not saying that people don't.

1368
01:15:00,600 --> 01:15:04,040
Speaker 2: Understand what it's like to be in a war zone. Right.

1369
01:15:04,240 --> 01:15:06,520
Speaker 2: You'll have a soldier sent to Afghanistan.

1370
01:15:06,600 --> 01:15:10,240
Speaker 1: It's another thing to be born in Afghanistan in that

1371
01:15:10,400 --> 01:15:14,720
Speaker 1: war zone and so you couldn't understand the atmosphere of

1372
01:15:14,800 --> 01:15:17,360
Speaker 1: Chicago in particularly if you didn't grow up there.

1373
01:15:17,520 --> 01:15:20,519
Speaker 2: You don't look at it with a pair of eyes

1374
01:15:20,640 --> 01:15:22,800
Speaker 2: that can understand the atmosphere.

1375
01:15:24,680 --> 01:15:26,519
Speaker 1: That's why I sit in my heart because I can

1376
01:15:26,560 --> 01:15:28,400
Speaker 1: talk to him blue in the face. You can never

1377
01:15:28,560 --> 01:15:33,439
Speaker 1: understand the intensity of living in a literal war zone.

1378
01:15:34,120 --> 01:15:36,200
Speaker 1: It's like living in the ghetto and you're a second

1379
01:15:36,240 --> 01:15:42,880
Speaker 1: class citizen in your own country. There's a dark energy

1380
01:15:42,920 --> 01:15:46,160
Speaker 1: and a dark power in Chicago. And that's why you

1381
01:15:46,200 --> 01:15:49,800
Speaker 1: will hear me reference the Dirk situation or reference some

1382
01:15:49,880 --> 01:15:52,920
Speaker 1: of these scenarios while I'm saying, bro, salute the chief.

1383
01:15:53,040 --> 01:15:56,519
Speaker 2: Keefy got out, Salute the herboy. He got out. It's

1384
01:15:56,600 --> 01:16:01,040
Speaker 2: like an escape room. Put the jurors on you.

1385
01:16:00,880 --> 01:16:04,760
Speaker 1: You ain't even asked for an We going forward around here,

1386
01:16:04,800 --> 01:16:07,720
Speaker 1: that's all we got around here. We make it the

1387
01:16:07,800 --> 01:16:10,800
Speaker 1: twenty one. That's a that's a that's a blessing. To

1388
01:16:10,800 --> 01:16:13,200
Speaker 1: make it to twenty one. Let alone make it as

1389
01:16:13,320 --> 01:16:16,360
Speaker 1: being a million. Now, let alone is making it out

1390
01:16:16,360 --> 01:16:19,120
Speaker 1: to get on that be in the hills, living in

1391
01:16:19,160 --> 01:16:24,840
Speaker 1: Calabasitia's done, move to La It's a tall enough task

1392
01:16:25,040 --> 01:16:27,320
Speaker 1: just to make it the twenty one in the war zone,

1393
01:16:28,040 --> 01:16:34,880
Speaker 1: twenty one years in Afghanistan, they call it shyrack and

1394
01:16:34,960 --> 01:16:37,639
Speaker 1: they pat each other on the back for catching hats.

1395
01:16:40,040 --> 01:16:43,120
Speaker 1: It's a very unfortunate circumstance and it's a recipe for

1396
01:16:43,160 --> 01:16:43,880
Speaker 1: a disaster.

1397
01:16:45,640 --> 01:16:46,799
Speaker 2: You expect to feel.

1398
01:16:46,600 --> 01:16:49,439
Speaker 1: That one to foreign territory, you know, you know, I

1399
01:16:49,479 --> 01:16:53,040
Speaker 1: take an eighteen hour flight as a soldier, and.

1400
01:16:52,960 --> 01:16:57,759
Speaker 2: Then we we're in a war zone. Now fix your mind,

1401
01:16:57,880 --> 01:17:01,000
Speaker 2: fix your fix your posture. We now in the war zone.

1402
01:17:01,720 --> 01:17:04,280
Speaker 1: But there's a different scenario when you're in a war

1403
01:17:04,400 --> 01:17:07,720
Speaker 1: zone and you celebrating the same war zone.

1404
01:17:08,479 --> 01:17:10,920
Speaker 2: Album release party in the war zone.

1405
01:17:11,080 --> 01:17:14,800
Speaker 1: Kids graduating in the war zone, got your first car

1406
01:17:14,960 --> 01:17:17,320
Speaker 1: in the war zone. Mama lived in the war zone,

1407
01:17:17,360 --> 01:17:20,320
Speaker 1: granted living the war zone. Cousin live in the war zone,

1408
01:17:20,560 --> 01:17:25,400
Speaker 1: barbecues in the war zone, played football in the war zone.

1409
01:17:25,560 --> 01:17:30,160
Speaker 1: You can never understand the intensity of having an intimate

1410
01:17:30,360 --> 01:17:36,880
Speaker 1: threat at your home. And I get it every I

1411
01:17:36,960 --> 01:17:41,680
Speaker 1: understand what that's like. But this, if you ask me,

1412
01:17:41,800 --> 01:17:44,439
Speaker 1: this has took up a couple of notches. It feels like,

1413
01:17:44,479 --> 01:17:47,040
Speaker 1: according to some of the reports, that someone either pulled

1414
01:17:47,120 --> 01:17:50,800
Speaker 1: up or a switch or something. That's another thing of

1415
01:17:50,920 --> 01:17:55,559
Speaker 1: why the switches are sold so and dangerous. You can

1416
01:17:55,600 --> 01:17:59,920
Speaker 1: shoot twenty people in five seconds, like when Rob Foe

1417
01:18:00,120 --> 01:18:03,240
Speaker 1: now in French Montana and them, they had that situation

1418
01:18:03,400 --> 01:18:06,600
Speaker 1: down in Miami. Dude got a switch and j and

1419
01:18:06,680 --> 01:18:08,639
Speaker 1: you just pull up and just plenty of people hit.

1420
01:18:08,720 --> 01:18:11,320
Speaker 1: These real bullets coming out. They sound fast like on

1421
01:18:11,400 --> 01:18:14,120
Speaker 1: some call to dude this shit, but these just real

1422
01:18:14,200 --> 01:18:16,760
Speaker 1: bullets coming out and real people being affected. You can

1423
01:18:16,840 --> 01:18:21,639
Speaker 1: hit eighteen innocent people. You can hit fourteen innocent people

1424
01:18:21,680 --> 01:18:24,960
Speaker 1: in a matter of two seconds, five seconds, ten seconds,

1425
01:18:25,000 --> 01:18:29,040
Speaker 1: fifteen seconds. This scenario is just a recipe for disaster.

1426
01:18:29,120 --> 01:18:31,519
Speaker 1: And I send the pre Warriors.

1427
01:18:30,920 --> 01:18:33,240
Speaker 2: Dog over Chicago.

1428
01:18:34,520 --> 01:18:38,439
Speaker 1: What I don't like, and someone gonna have to do

1429
01:18:38,520 --> 01:18:41,760
Speaker 1: something to change it, And you know, I understand it's

1430
01:18:41,760 --> 01:18:43,960
Speaker 1: a tall task, but I don't like that they've turned

1431
01:18:44,000 --> 01:18:46,760
Speaker 1: culture into a killing. You know, they have turned the

1432
01:18:46,840 --> 01:18:52,200
Speaker 1: culture in Chicago into killing. I can't respect that. Ain't

1433
01:18:52,240 --> 01:18:55,280
Speaker 1: nobody bucking the police. And I ain't say bucking the police.

1434
01:18:55,320 --> 01:18:58,280
Speaker 2: I ain't. I'm not encouraging.

1435
01:18:57,760 --> 01:19:01,439
Speaker 1: People to do anything the law and for, but it

1436
01:19:01,479 --> 01:19:03,760
Speaker 1: feels like that we want to play call of duty

1437
01:19:03,880 --> 01:19:05,960
Speaker 1: with each other and not with nothing else.

1438
01:19:06,320 --> 01:19:07,280
Speaker 2: It don't feel like that.

1439
01:19:07,640 --> 01:19:09,599
Speaker 1: It's saying, man, they just passed the law that's gonna

1440
01:19:09,600 --> 01:19:14,040
Speaker 1: take my mama foolstanns. Man, I'm going to handle that. Man,

1441
01:19:14,080 --> 01:19:17,000
Speaker 1: they just passed the bill. Man, we won't even we

1442
01:19:17,040 --> 01:19:19,800
Speaker 1: don't got no good books in the schools. Man, I'm

1443
01:19:19,840 --> 01:19:23,400
Speaker 1: going to handle that. It's just on some rap shit

1444
01:19:23,520 --> 01:19:27,680
Speaker 1: and on some beef shit towards each other. It's internal,

1445
01:19:30,439 --> 01:19:37,320
Speaker 1: and trust me, man, any event that it becomes external,

1446
01:19:39,560 --> 01:19:43,360
Speaker 1: the fars do something to stop it. I hear about

1447
01:19:43,360 --> 01:19:46,680
Speaker 1: so many killings in Chicago that's just left unanswered, just

1448
01:19:46,760 --> 01:19:50,120
Speaker 1: oh yeah, fourteen people were shot, but they've yet to

1449
01:19:50,280 --> 01:19:55,600
Speaker 1: arrest anyone. It's like, if you know that level of

1450
01:19:55,680 --> 01:19:58,439
Speaker 1: killing and drama is going on, then they gotta probably

1451
01:19:58,560 --> 01:20:01,920
Speaker 1: up some of the standards. It pertains to how they investigating,

1452
01:20:02,000 --> 01:20:05,400
Speaker 1: when they're investigating what they're investigating. Some of the technology

1453
01:20:05,479 --> 01:20:08,120
Speaker 1: needs to be used, some money needs to be deployed

1454
01:20:08,680 --> 01:20:12,560
Speaker 1: into the ghetto to try to intervene.

1455
01:20:13,640 --> 01:20:16,400
Speaker 2: Some prevention for some of these things.

1456
01:20:18,439 --> 01:20:21,519
Speaker 1: And it feels like a town with no sheriff, feels

1457
01:20:21,600 --> 01:20:27,679
Speaker 1: like a town with no big homits. And I don't

1458
01:20:27,720 --> 01:20:30,479
Speaker 1: know how to speak the young that they coach is killing.

1459
01:20:31,120 --> 01:20:33,720
Speaker 1: When we came up, our culture was getting money. We

1460
01:20:33,760 --> 01:20:36,479
Speaker 1: wanted some money. I don't know how to really talk

1461
01:20:36,560 --> 01:20:39,040
Speaker 1: to the young the coach is killing, homie. I could

1462
01:20:39,080 --> 01:20:41,120
Speaker 1: just give them a little bit of game that I got,

1463
01:20:41,240 --> 01:20:42,640
Speaker 1: but I don't know how to reach them.

1464
01:20:42,720 --> 01:20:43,080
Speaker 6: Average.

1465
01:20:43,520 --> 01:20:48,120
Speaker 1: Coming up, culture was always philosophy, right, language, food.

1466
01:20:48,720 --> 01:20:51,120
Speaker 2: You share certain aspects.

1467
01:20:52,280 --> 01:20:57,440
Speaker 1: That indicates where you come from. When we talk about Chicago,

1468
01:20:57,520 --> 01:21:00,519
Speaker 1: it's like get back is part of the coach.

1469
01:21:01,360 --> 01:21:05,000
Speaker 2: This is why I said there was a very.

1470
01:21:04,000 --> 01:21:08,679
Speaker 1: Sensitive subject that people were with King Vaughan in little

1471
01:21:08,720 --> 01:21:12,800
Speaker 1: Dirt situation, because it's sensitive to tell him that they

1472
01:21:12,920 --> 01:21:13,559
Speaker 1: turn that off.

1473
01:21:13,600 --> 01:21:13,840
Speaker 2: Dirt.

1474
01:21:13,840 --> 01:21:17,240
Speaker 1: Don't worry about that when it's in my culture. This

1475
01:21:17,360 --> 01:21:19,560
Speaker 1: getback thing is in my coat, and I'm one of

1476
01:21:19,600 --> 01:21:24,840
Speaker 1: the biggest ones. And again I'm not saying Dirt was

1477
01:21:24,920 --> 01:21:27,920
Speaker 1: involved in anything. I'm speaking about the mindset and the

1478
01:21:28,000 --> 01:21:31,160
Speaker 1: pressure and the gravity of coming from a place where

1479
01:21:31,160 --> 01:21:37,679
Speaker 1: they've indoctrinated you with the get back, with the press game.

1480
01:21:39,320 --> 01:21:41,760
Speaker 1: They would even say, yo, everyone, I say, he ain't

1481
01:21:41,760 --> 01:21:44,479
Speaker 1: got no hat, shut up, you going to heaven. I

1482
01:21:44,560 --> 01:21:46,720
Speaker 1: seen one of these thing going viral the other day

1483
01:21:47,000 --> 01:21:49,360
Speaker 1: when they said going to heaven like it was a.

1484
01:21:49,400 --> 01:21:53,040
Speaker 2: Disc You ain't never done nothing, You going to heaven?

1485
01:21:55,200 --> 01:21:58,599
Speaker 2: I said, God, leieve they don'et really confuse them, young kind.

1486
01:21:58,680 --> 01:22:03,599
Speaker 2: Now they got them trapped in the closet. They got

1487
01:22:03,720 --> 01:22:06,400
Speaker 2: him trapped in the closet going against each other too.

1488
01:22:06,479 --> 01:22:09,280
Speaker 2: That's what really hurts your heart when it's like it

1489
01:22:09,280 --> 01:22:12,280
Speaker 2: ain't about nothing. And I ain't saying that a death

1490
01:22:12,360 --> 01:22:15,120
Speaker 2: can't cause a war. And I ain't saying you gotta

1491
01:22:15,200 --> 01:22:18,519
Speaker 2: overlook death. I ain't saying that. But what I'm saying

1492
01:22:18,720 --> 01:22:22,120
Speaker 2: is it be about some little shit.

1493
01:22:23,960 --> 01:22:27,400
Speaker 1: But the mistake of making killing your culture is something

1494
01:22:27,479 --> 01:22:31,760
Speaker 1: that is irreparable. I don't know how you come back

1495
01:22:31,760 --> 01:22:34,280
Speaker 1: from that, because you pass it down to the next generation.

1496
01:22:34,400 --> 01:22:35,679
Speaker 2: This is what I'm saying, Like.

1497
01:22:37,600 --> 01:22:39,960
Speaker 1: You pass down the way we dance, the way we talk,

1498
01:22:40,040 --> 01:22:42,400
Speaker 1: the way we dress, the way the things we do,

1499
01:22:42,479 --> 01:22:45,640
Speaker 1: the food we eat, this, the holidays we celebrate, like,

1500
01:22:45,680 --> 01:22:49,880
Speaker 1: the philosophy, the books we read, write, the music we enjoy.

1501
01:22:50,000 --> 01:22:51,960
Speaker 2: You pass all of that down. That's the culture.

1502
01:22:52,000 --> 01:22:56,080
Speaker 1: But what do you do when they've now put salt

1503
01:22:56,120 --> 01:23:01,120
Speaker 1: in the kool aid? They don't put salt in the

1504
01:23:01,200 --> 01:23:05,759
Speaker 1: kool aid instead of sugar. So now you pass down

1505
01:23:06,880 --> 01:23:13,080
Speaker 1: something that ruins the culture moving forward. This is why

1506
01:23:13,120 --> 01:23:17,519
Speaker 1: I celebrate Jee Herbal Chief, keep little Dirk, some of

1507
01:23:17,560 --> 01:23:19,840
Speaker 1: the people that's made it out and trying to make away.

1508
01:23:19,920 --> 01:23:25,200
Speaker 1: It's because you gotta you gotta retrain your mind. It's like,

1509
01:23:25,240 --> 01:23:28,720
Speaker 1: we in this, but we're not of this, and we're

1510
01:23:28,760 --> 01:23:31,120
Speaker 1: gonna We're gonna take this to the next level. We're

1511
01:23:31,120 --> 01:23:35,639
Speaker 1: gonna get out of this. We got to get out

1512
01:23:35,640 --> 01:23:38,760
Speaker 1: of this. Some of these guys out of the head.

1513
01:23:38,880 --> 01:23:42,439
Speaker 1: Not to tell they the big fish. They the big fish.

1514
01:23:43,360 --> 01:23:46,439
Speaker 1: It's like being Mama Bell. It's like being pap Up Bell,

1515
01:23:46,640 --> 01:23:49,680
Speaker 1: like the big gorilla. Oh you with my children, you know,

1516
01:23:49,760 --> 01:23:50,759
Speaker 1: Oh you with.

1517
01:23:50,560 --> 01:23:52,960
Speaker 2: One of mine. You know.

1518
01:23:53,000 --> 01:23:56,519
Speaker 1: He come beating his chest nah me, And it's like,

1519
01:23:57,400 --> 01:24:00,439
Speaker 1: how do you ignore that when it's been your culture,

1520
01:24:00,520 --> 01:24:04,920
Speaker 1: your entire life. I send my heart to them, folks, man,

1521
01:24:06,600 --> 01:24:09,920
Speaker 1: I send my heart to them, folks. Lime And I

1522
01:24:10,000 --> 01:24:13,559
Speaker 1: know what it's like sometimes that you don't want to leave.

1523
01:24:13,600 --> 01:24:15,360
Speaker 1: When I was speaking to her Bo, he was talking

1524
01:24:15,360 --> 01:24:19,480
Speaker 1: about how like even with him, he had a scenario

1525
01:24:19,560 --> 01:24:23,200
Speaker 1: where you would look at things and be like, yo, nah,

1526
01:24:23,200 --> 01:24:27,360
Speaker 1: I can come back to the hood, Like, nah, I

1527
01:24:27,360 --> 01:24:29,479
Speaker 1: can pull up in the hood in my bentley. Y'all

1528
01:24:29,479 --> 01:24:33,680
Speaker 1: ain't running me from over here. Like it's pride in

1529
01:24:33,760 --> 01:24:38,639
Speaker 1: putting your life at risk instead of living your life.

1530
01:24:39,000 --> 01:24:41,600
Speaker 1: It's pride in putting your life at risk. Tell me

1531
01:24:41,680 --> 01:24:45,320
Speaker 1: any other species that intentionally put his life at risk.

1532
01:24:47,240 --> 01:24:52,760
Speaker 1: There's no other species in the world that intentionally.

1533
01:24:52,080 --> 01:24:54,599
Speaker 2: Will put his life at risk to prove some kind

1534
01:24:54,640 --> 01:24:55,040
Speaker 2: of point.

1535
01:24:55,439 --> 01:24:57,840
Speaker 1: When you see a lion, or when you see some

1536
01:24:57,920 --> 01:24:59,840
Speaker 1: of these things in the world that is fighting as

1537
01:24:59,880 --> 01:25:03,479
Speaker 1: you usually for food. These have all the food, all

1538
01:25:03,520 --> 01:25:06,519
Speaker 1: the resources, all the money, and go put their life

1539
01:25:06,560 --> 01:25:08,439
Speaker 1: on the line just to prove a point that they

1540
01:25:08,479 --> 01:25:12,040
Speaker 1: still got pride and ego. You fall victim to your ego.

1541
01:25:12,360 --> 01:25:17,439
Speaker 1: You study long, you study wrong. I can also feel pain.

1542
01:25:17,520 --> 01:25:19,400
Speaker 1: It's like, yo, I can't leave yet because I ain't

1543
01:25:19,439 --> 01:25:23,360
Speaker 1: able to take everybody with me. But you gotta remember

1544
01:25:23,400 --> 01:25:26,640
Speaker 1: you is in a burning building. You got to know

1545
01:25:26,760 --> 01:25:28,479
Speaker 1: I can I got to just better. I got to

1546
01:25:28,560 --> 01:25:32,320
Speaker 1: just take what I can get. I got to just

1547
01:25:32,360 --> 01:25:35,400
Speaker 1: take what I can get. You got to just get

1548
01:25:35,479 --> 01:25:37,559
Speaker 1: what mean the most to you and get the out

1549
01:25:37,560 --> 01:25:39,439
Speaker 1: of there. Get what you can carry and get the

1550
01:25:39,720 --> 01:25:42,360
Speaker 1: out of there shit. Maybe you can send movers and

1551
01:25:42,439 --> 01:25:45,920
Speaker 1: resources to try to like the pathway for others to

1552
01:25:46,000 --> 01:25:47,960
Speaker 1: get out. But some of the people who can lead

1553
01:25:48,000 --> 01:25:51,439
Speaker 1: the way find themselves not leaving yet because they can't

1554
01:25:51,680 --> 01:25:56,679
Speaker 1: take everybody with them. Say, when you in a burning house,

1555
01:25:56,720 --> 01:25:58,800
Speaker 1: when you know the house on fire, you might got

1556
01:25:58,840 --> 01:26:01,760
Speaker 1: to leave the PlayStation and the TV, and you got

1557
01:26:01,760 --> 01:26:04,160
Speaker 1: to grab what's really necessary.

1558
01:26:03,720 --> 01:26:07,520
Speaker 2: Your children, your dog, the money.

1559
01:26:07,800 --> 01:26:09,960
Speaker 1: You understand, you got to grab a few things and

1560
01:26:10,000 --> 01:26:14,960
Speaker 1: get the out of this burning building. And sometimes it's

1561
01:26:15,000 --> 01:26:17,800
Speaker 1: pressure that I don't want to leave little brother in them.

1562
01:26:17,960 --> 01:26:22,240
Speaker 1: But you can always send move us back. You can

1563
01:26:22,280 --> 01:26:26,120
Speaker 1: always send resources back. Say yo, Homer, I gotta go.

1564
01:26:26,240 --> 01:26:29,320
Speaker 1: I gotta light the way. I can't stand down here

1565
01:26:29,360 --> 01:26:31,160
Speaker 1: with y'all. And I ain't got nothing else to prove.

1566
01:26:31,360 --> 01:26:35,080
Speaker 1: I survived shot rack. I survived a ghetto, and you

1567
01:26:35,479 --> 01:26:39,160
Speaker 1: can't take that from me. That's a trick that the

1568
01:26:39,200 --> 01:26:43,439
Speaker 1: Inner City runs on. The Inner City is like prove

1569
01:26:43,520 --> 01:26:46,559
Speaker 1: you a gangster for what? And I really come from nothing.

1570
01:26:46,600 --> 01:26:49,800
Speaker 1: I really come from the ghetto. I really come from nothing.

1571
01:26:49,800 --> 01:26:53,160
Speaker 1: It's documented. Ain't nobody never had nothing in my family,

1572
01:26:53,360 --> 01:26:55,920
Speaker 1: and I done got rich. What else I got to

1573
01:26:56,000 --> 01:27:00,120
Speaker 1: prove average what the else I got to prove? You

1574
01:27:00,200 --> 01:27:02,559
Speaker 1: want me to defend the fact that I come up

1575
01:27:02,640 --> 01:27:08,240
Speaker 1: slinging in for what. I come up putting belt to

1576
01:27:08,320 --> 01:27:12,120
Speaker 1: ask for what, and I'd have made it out the ghetto.

1577
01:27:12,360 --> 01:27:16,479
Speaker 1: That's up the highest reward from God. I gotta honor

1578
01:27:16,520 --> 01:27:20,800
Speaker 1: what God done for me. I gotta honor the pathway

1579
01:27:20,840 --> 01:27:24,320
Speaker 1: that been lit for me, and I gotta act as

1580
01:27:24,400 --> 01:27:30,840
Speaker 1: Harriet Tuckman. I gotta show the underground railroad to get out.

1581
01:27:30,720 --> 01:27:32,360
Speaker 2: To Burning City.

1582
01:27:33,160 --> 01:27:36,800
Speaker 1: Because sometimes when you bury everybody cross, you would roll

1583
01:27:36,920 --> 01:27:37,880
Speaker 1: your opportunities.

1584
01:27:38,560 --> 01:27:40,760
Speaker 2: You put a Rosi in on your opportunities.

1585
01:27:41,160 --> 01:27:43,280
Speaker 1: You could have saved your family, but you wouldn't leave

1586
01:27:43,320 --> 01:27:48,400
Speaker 1: your neighborhood. You could have saved the block, but you

1587
01:27:48,439 --> 01:27:53,519
Speaker 1: wouldn't leave the block. The goal is to beat the.

1588
01:27:53,479 --> 01:27:56,479
Speaker 2: Game, not standing relation the fact that I'm still in the.

1589
01:27:56,520 --> 01:28:00,160
Speaker 1: Game, which one of you dumb been preaching that that

1590
01:28:00,160 --> 01:28:02,320
Speaker 1: ain't in my ministry.

1591
01:28:02,880 --> 01:28:03,599
Speaker 2: That ain't in my.

1592
01:28:03,880 --> 01:28:07,040
Speaker 1: Fucking ministry to be running around talking about what we've

1593
01:28:07,120 --> 01:28:09,760
Speaker 1: done in the ghetto and defending the fact that we

1594
01:28:09,920 --> 01:28:14,080
Speaker 1: sold drugs and beat the block dowing. Sometimes the proof

1595
01:28:14,160 --> 01:28:17,040
Speaker 1: is in the putting taste of pudding, eat the cake,

1596
01:28:17,120 --> 01:28:23,519
Speaker 1: and a may you looking at proof you talking about

1597
01:28:24,160 --> 01:28:26,920
Speaker 1: the problem is we spend too much time holding on

1598
01:28:27,000 --> 01:28:30,000
Speaker 1: to what we were, hold on to what we had.

1599
01:28:30,040 --> 01:28:32,840
Speaker 1: And I get it because coach is in what you had.

1600
01:28:33,840 --> 01:28:36,160
Speaker 1: Sometimes you don't want to let go of what you

1601
01:28:36,320 --> 01:28:38,479
Speaker 1: had because it reminds you of who you are.

1602
01:28:40,840 --> 01:28:41,960
Speaker 2: But I think we need.

1603
01:28:41,760 --> 01:28:45,479
Speaker 1: To spend less time on reminding ourselves.

1604
01:28:44,960 --> 01:28:46,759
Speaker 2: Who we were and what we.

1605
01:28:46,680 --> 01:28:48,840
Speaker 1: Are and what we're trying to be is what we

1606
01:28:48,880 --> 01:28:51,760
Speaker 1: need to focus on. You got an opportunity to be

1607
01:28:51,800 --> 01:28:54,559
Speaker 1: one hundred million dollars. Were talking about what I've done

1608
01:28:54,640 --> 01:28:58,920
Speaker 1: in the ghetto. I'm running around pulling up trying to

1609
01:28:58,920 --> 01:29:01,800
Speaker 1: push a line by some street ships in the war.

1610
01:29:03,520 --> 01:29:06,920
Speaker 1: That's when I knew these content creator run around pushing piece.

1611
01:29:07,000 --> 01:29:10,520
Speaker 1: You can't stop this kind of shit, you taking videos

1612
01:29:10,560 --> 01:29:11,840
Speaker 1: and spending money on you.

1613
01:29:12,000 --> 01:29:14,160
Speaker 2: Content creators need the bull loot.

1614
01:29:16,280 --> 01:29:18,760
Speaker 1: This gonna take a voice, This gonna take God, this

1615
01:29:18,800 --> 01:29:21,920
Speaker 1: is gonna take instruction and trying to get rich and

1616
01:29:22,000 --> 01:29:23,559
Speaker 1: still peddling this street shit.

1617
01:29:23,920 --> 01:29:26,240
Speaker 2: Can't give, can't light the way for this kind of shit.

1618
01:29:27,160 --> 01:29:30,559
Speaker 1: You gotta focus on who you becoming. The ghetto will

1619
01:29:30,560 --> 01:29:33,400
Speaker 1: trick you into trying to defend who you were and

1620
01:29:33,439 --> 01:29:36,559
Speaker 1: who and what you're done, and and and and how

1621
01:29:36,600 --> 01:29:41,080
Speaker 1: you beat the game. The game was on hard coming

1622
01:29:41,080 --> 01:29:45,080
Speaker 1: out of Chicago, coming out of any ghetto that they

1623
01:29:45,080 --> 01:29:48,640
Speaker 1: don't put the game on difficult, the difficulty all the

1624
01:29:48,640 --> 01:29:51,439
Speaker 1: way up, starting from zero and running up one hundred

1625
01:29:51,439 --> 01:29:56,640
Speaker 1: of them starting from zero and running up a honey Bunnon.

1626
01:29:56,920 --> 01:29:59,040
Speaker 2: The difficult is on a thousand.

1627
01:30:00,439 --> 01:30:04,640
Speaker 1: My mouth can't explain what your wire seating average.

1628
01:30:05,840 --> 01:30:06,960
Speaker 2: Don't get caught.

1629
01:30:09,000 --> 01:30:11,200
Speaker 1: Trying to put your life at risk to prove a

1630
01:30:11,280 --> 01:30:14,479
Speaker 1: point to who ain't gonna ride. If something happened to you,

1631
01:30:16,600 --> 01:30:19,960
Speaker 1: they gonna post RP, get whatever cloud left off your name,

1632
01:30:20,040 --> 01:30:22,519
Speaker 1: and gonna keep it moving. You gotta be smarter than

1633
01:30:22,560 --> 01:30:26,840
Speaker 1: the average bell. You gotta shatter your norm, break the tradition.

1634
01:30:27,160 --> 01:30:27,800
Speaker 2: I gotta go.

1635
01:30:28,240 --> 01:30:31,880
Speaker 1: I'm grabbing what can come with me, and I'm leaving

1636
01:30:31,920 --> 01:30:34,519
Speaker 1: footprints into saying, follow the footprints, Nick.

1637
01:30:35,160 --> 01:30:36,760
Speaker 2: If you ain't cerebral.

1638
01:30:36,400 --> 01:30:39,000
Speaker 1: Enough to follow the footprints, I might send for you,

1639
01:30:39,080 --> 01:30:42,599
Speaker 1: but I ain't coming to get you.

1640
01:30:42,600 --> 01:30:43,080
Speaker 2: You hear me.

1641
01:30:43,520 --> 01:30:45,439
Speaker 1: I might send for you, but I ain't coming to

1642
01:30:45,479 --> 01:30:48,719
Speaker 1: get you, because me coming put too much at risk.

1643
01:30:49,479 --> 01:30:54,559
Speaker 2: I didn't cover too much ground. Rap music is part

1644
01:30:54,600 --> 01:30:58,799
Speaker 2: to blame too, because the tradition in rap music, especially

1645
01:30:58,800 --> 01:31:00,240
Speaker 2: if you come from one of these seas, it is

1646
01:31:00,280 --> 01:31:00,720
Speaker 2: what they know.

1647
01:31:00,760 --> 01:31:03,719
Speaker 1: You're drilling and you're killing, and you're standing on business

1648
01:31:03,800 --> 01:31:05,240
Speaker 1: and you ain't letting none slide.

1649
01:31:05,520 --> 01:31:08,560
Speaker 2: See, they'll get you, get you caught up in the protocol.

1650
01:31:09,800 --> 01:31:13,120
Speaker 1: But the tradition and the protocol it works in rap

1651
01:31:13,200 --> 01:31:18,760
Speaker 1: because it keeps you relatable. But sometimes you lose your

1652
01:31:18,920 --> 01:31:24,439
Speaker 1: exclusivity being relatable to these. Don't let these trick you

1653
01:31:24,520 --> 01:31:26,000
Speaker 1: out of your exclusivity.

1654
01:31:26,240 --> 01:31:29,320
Speaker 2: I made it from the ghetto. I'm from that. I'm

1655
01:31:29,320 --> 01:31:32,720
Speaker 2: not of that. We in this were not of this.

1656
01:31:35,360 --> 01:31:37,880
Speaker 1: We gonna get out of this and be Black excellence

1657
01:31:37,920 --> 01:31:43,040
Speaker 1: and lead the way in the rawest form. You get

1658
01:31:43,040 --> 01:31:46,320
Speaker 1: stuck in their routine and rob yourself of your exclusivity.

1659
01:31:46,400 --> 01:31:49,439
Speaker 1: Young I stopped going to the hood and start going

1660
01:31:49,479 --> 01:31:52,920
Speaker 1: to the bank. I start going to the bookstore. I

1661
01:31:52,960 --> 01:31:55,959
Speaker 1: gotta be able to lead, not just follow. See, sometimes

1662
01:31:56,000 --> 01:31:58,920
Speaker 1: all these suckers can do is follow. I all these

1663
01:31:59,240 --> 01:32:02,920
Speaker 1: know how to do it. Follow somebody else, but some

1664
01:32:03,000 --> 01:32:05,639
Speaker 1: of us are leaders. In order to lead, you gotta

1665
01:32:05,680 --> 01:32:09,000
Speaker 1: go get some information. I got to leave. I got

1666
01:32:09,040 --> 01:32:13,240
Speaker 1: to go get it. The thing about me is I

1667
01:32:13,280 --> 01:32:15,719
Speaker 1: went and got it by myself. That's why I certainly

1668
01:32:15,800 --> 01:32:20,719
Speaker 1: made me. Ain't no cap on, that, ain't no rubber

1669
01:32:20,760 --> 01:32:25,479
Speaker 1: band around this money, you understand.

1670
01:32:25,600 --> 01:32:28,720
Speaker 2: I went and got it by myself. The information I

1671
01:32:28,800 --> 01:32:31,320
Speaker 2: dedicated myself. I got with some reals in the.

1672
01:32:31,360 --> 01:32:37,599
Speaker 1: Game that lifted me up, but they wasn't gonna trick

1673
01:32:37,680 --> 01:32:39,280
Speaker 1: me into being stuck in routine.

1674
01:32:39,880 --> 01:32:42,679
Speaker 2: I saw everybody feel going that way. I watched them.

1675
01:32:43,640 --> 01:32:45,919
Speaker 2: I watched play with the street shit.

1676
01:32:47,320 --> 01:32:50,559
Speaker 1: And dominate the head lies as it pertains the street talk,

1677
01:32:50,800 --> 01:32:53,599
Speaker 1: and every single one of them end up in jail,

1678
01:32:53,880 --> 01:32:56,880
Speaker 1: and that outran every single one of them. I was

1679
01:32:57,000 --> 01:33:01,200
Speaker 1: just watching them for nest and freedom, for this. That's

1680
01:33:01,280 --> 01:33:04,439
Speaker 1: my guy, Jonathan, that's my boy. We done linked a

1681
01:33:04,479 --> 01:33:06,960
Speaker 1: couple of times, been around each other. He know I'm

1682
01:33:06,960 --> 01:33:11,720
Speaker 1: a real when he can vouch for that. There's a

1683
01:33:11,760 --> 01:33:16,800
Speaker 1: mistake when we glorify the game that we post to

1684
01:33:16,880 --> 01:33:17,880
Speaker 1: separate from.

1685
01:33:20,479 --> 01:33:21,759
Speaker 2: He called hisself rich.

1686
01:33:21,640 --> 01:33:25,880
Speaker 1: And unemployed while, according to the federal government, been playing

1687
01:33:25,920 --> 01:33:28,639
Speaker 1: in the fraud shit, the COVID shit. Hed been playing

1688
01:33:28,680 --> 01:33:34,080
Speaker 1: with that shit, and his background was that you ever

1689
01:33:34,200 --> 01:33:36,479
Speaker 1: noticed that the name of my show is what it's up.

1690
01:33:36,400 --> 01:33:39,479
Speaker 2: There, Parker. If you gotta go with what I present you.

1691
01:33:39,520 --> 01:33:42,720
Speaker 1: As far as my business, you don't know what I've done,

1692
01:33:43,439 --> 01:33:45,600
Speaker 1: if I've done anything in the street, you don't know

1693
01:33:45,680 --> 01:33:48,920
Speaker 1: what I sold like Roloh called itself misster dog food.

1694
01:33:49,000 --> 01:33:52,439
Speaker 1: All this kind of shit you playing. And I don't

1695
01:33:52,479 --> 01:33:55,760
Speaker 1: mean no disrespect to nobody, but y'all playing. Y'all must

1696
01:33:55,920 --> 01:33:58,479
Speaker 1: see that's the thing I'm saying. You must be kind

1697
01:33:58,479 --> 01:34:03,559
Speaker 1: of slow like I'm saying, we gotta lead the way

1698
01:34:03,680 --> 01:34:06,160
Speaker 1: dog and not get caught in the routine. We robbing

1699
01:34:06,200 --> 01:34:12,280
Speaker 1: ourselves from the exclusivity putting the John Goddess on the

1700
01:34:12,320 --> 01:34:15,439
Speaker 1: back of our name and putting the John Wicks on

1701
01:34:15,520 --> 01:34:18,960
Speaker 1: our name. And now we really involved in shootings and shit.

1702
01:34:19,200 --> 01:34:23,360
Speaker 1: You're playing slow out there. You're playing slow ball out there.

1703
01:34:23,439 --> 01:34:27,000
Speaker 1: Homie the white boy that scaming his scheme and got

1704
01:34:27,120 --> 01:34:29,680
Speaker 1: a suit on running the business, he'll never mention it.

1705
01:34:30,720 --> 01:34:33,839
Speaker 1: You ain't gonna know he was involved too. He's arrested.

1706
01:34:35,800 --> 01:34:38,040
Speaker 1: I beat the game. Why would I lead the people

1707
01:34:38,080 --> 01:34:40,599
Speaker 1: to the game I beat for They can put two

1708
01:34:40,640 --> 01:34:42,160
Speaker 1: and two together and make it full.

1709
01:34:42,520 --> 01:34:45,240
Speaker 2: But sometimes all these can't do is follow.

1710
01:34:46,280 --> 01:34:50,800
Speaker 1: That's all they good for because they have neutralized their

1711
01:34:50,840 --> 01:34:52,920
Speaker 1: ability to be different from the pack.

1712
01:34:55,960 --> 01:34:57,760
Speaker 2: I don't even run with a pack. That's how you

1713
01:34:57,800 --> 01:34:58,840
Speaker 2: know I'm different than most.

1714
01:34:59,640 --> 01:35:04,640
Speaker 1: Don't nobody influence my protocol, don't nobody influence my constitution.

1715
01:35:05,800 --> 01:35:08,120
Speaker 1: How I feel is how I feel. How I move

1716
01:35:08,240 --> 01:35:11,880
Speaker 1: is based on the information. I don't got no emotional

1717
01:35:11,960 --> 01:35:15,840
Speaker 1: ties to anything outside of my family, children, and it's moneyon.

1718
01:35:17,280 --> 01:35:19,920
Speaker 1: I want to honey megi and I don't want to

1719
01:35:19,960 --> 01:35:25,160
Speaker 1: tap dands for it. You understand that I want to

1720
01:35:25,200 --> 01:35:26,960
Speaker 1: put the game down. I want to be one of

1721
01:35:26,960 --> 01:35:30,080
Speaker 1: the first that put the game down and win and

1722
01:35:30,080 --> 01:35:31,080
Speaker 1: get a honey mess.

1723
01:35:31,800 --> 01:35:35,200
Speaker 2: Not kiss rappers, ass, not kiss white folks. Says do

1724
01:35:35,400 --> 01:35:36,680
Speaker 2: business with everybody.

1725
01:35:36,960 --> 01:35:38,880
Speaker 1: But I want to put the game down and get

1726
01:35:38,880 --> 01:35:46,439
Speaker 1: a honey meg, the first of its kind, the proto type.

1727
01:35:48,400 --> 01:35:51,320
Speaker 1: That's how you break the tradition and break the generational

1728
01:35:51,439 --> 01:35:53,120
Speaker 1: curses that they passed down.

1729
01:35:53,160 --> 01:35:54,160
Speaker 2: They put salt in the.

1730
01:35:54,200 --> 01:35:58,200
Speaker 1: Kool aide, knowing it were supposed to be sugar, but

1731
01:35:58,280 --> 01:36:02,080
Speaker 1: they may do with what they had. Sometimes all you

1732
01:36:02,160 --> 01:36:06,559
Speaker 1: got is your reputation, and I get that, but you

1733
01:36:06,680 --> 01:36:08,960
Speaker 1: gotta know when that is changed Oh, now I got

1734
01:36:08,960 --> 01:36:11,160
Speaker 1: more than my reputation. I got my legacy.

1735
01:36:11,200 --> 01:36:11,800
Speaker 2: I'm living for.

1736
01:36:13,479 --> 01:36:13,559
Speaker 11: It.

1737
01:36:13,680 --> 01:36:16,160
Speaker 1: Used to be me living for my reputation. Ask me

1738
01:36:16,240 --> 01:36:18,680
Speaker 1: living for my legacy. These are two different things. They

1739
01:36:18,680 --> 01:36:21,719
Speaker 1: can live in the same place and sometimes one fees

1740
01:36:21,800 --> 01:36:24,960
Speaker 1: the other. But I bet not get coding. Reputation is

1741
01:36:25,040 --> 01:36:31,000
Speaker 1: past tens. Reputation is past tense. Legacy is what I

1742
01:36:31,040 --> 01:36:35,000
Speaker 1: do from here forward. It feeds my legacy. And when

1743
01:36:35,040 --> 01:36:39,040
Speaker 1: all you have is the ability to follow people, you

1744
01:36:39,160 --> 01:36:43,040
Speaker 1: rob yourself, young, hit me well, hear me out there, son,

1745
01:36:43,360 --> 01:36:48,640
Speaker 1: hear me out there. Don't rob yourself your chances to

1746
01:36:48,760 --> 01:36:52,400
Speaker 1: get away from the pack and be exclusive and make

1747
01:36:52,640 --> 01:36:58,040
Speaker 1: something happen for the entire culture. Don't ever compromise your

1748
01:36:58,080 --> 01:37:04,720
Speaker 1: exclusivity for compatible ability and put your dreams on a guarney.

1749
01:37:04,960 --> 01:37:08,080
Speaker 1: Ain't no average one hundred of you can't pull up

1750
01:37:08,120 --> 01:37:10,680
Speaker 1: on me. I don't give where you're from and what

1751
01:37:10,800 --> 01:37:11,360
Speaker 1: you kicking.

1752
01:37:13,160 --> 01:37:16,240
Speaker 2: But if it's one Chicago or it's one from the ghetto,

1753
01:37:16,520 --> 01:37:18,519
Speaker 2: I can go for that. Let's see if we can

1754
01:37:18,560 --> 01:37:20,000
Speaker 2: plug it in and make something happen.

1755
01:37:20,000 --> 01:37:21,800
Speaker 1: When you show up and it's fout there, you young,

1756
01:37:22,280 --> 01:37:24,160
Speaker 1: all watching the interview, the other day, a bunch of

1757
01:37:24,240 --> 01:37:27,280
Speaker 1: them a mad song. Cain't nobody come in my studio

1758
01:37:27,360 --> 01:37:30,480
Speaker 1: with a mad song. I don't give what they claim.

1759
01:37:31,040 --> 01:37:32,880
Speaker 1: Don't show up to my studio no more?

1760
01:37:33,120 --> 01:37:34,719
Speaker 2: And mad song? What you playing?

1761
01:37:34,760 --> 01:37:37,439
Speaker 1: Some kind of call of duty game may come up

1762
01:37:37,479 --> 01:37:43,400
Speaker 1: out my studio? You follow us, And I'm looking for leaders.

1763
01:37:43,880 --> 01:37:46,040
Speaker 1: I'm looking for stand up men that want to make

1764
01:37:46,120 --> 01:37:48,800
Speaker 1: something happen for their children, live for their children. But

1765
01:37:48,840 --> 01:37:51,400
Speaker 1: sometimes you get caught in it. I know it, And

1766
01:37:51,439 --> 01:37:53,559
Speaker 1: so I ain't just so hard on the black boy

1767
01:37:53,600 --> 01:37:56,800
Speaker 1: because I know he caught in some bullshit. The reputation

1768
01:37:56,960 --> 01:38:01,160
Speaker 1: go further than anything up there. That jersey, that jersey

1769
01:38:01,280 --> 01:38:03,720
Speaker 1: on his back, it means something up there. I get it,

1770
01:38:03,800 --> 01:38:08,479
Speaker 1: I know it, I feel it. They're trigger I know it,

1771
01:38:08,560 --> 01:38:12,000
Speaker 1: I feel it. But some of this shit sinceless game.

1772
01:38:12,520 --> 01:38:14,000
Speaker 1: Some of this shit is bullshit.

1773
01:38:14,120 --> 01:38:16,000
Speaker 2: Love one. This ain't everything.

1774
01:38:17,040 --> 01:38:19,679
Speaker 1: At some point, you gotta shut down what you was taught.

1775
01:38:19,720 --> 01:38:23,320
Speaker 1: Every tool you use to survive, it's useless. When you

1776
01:38:23,360 --> 01:38:26,400
Speaker 1: get where you're going, you gotta shut down your apparatus.

1777
01:38:26,439 --> 01:38:30,000
Speaker 1: You couldn't imagine moving your entire life trying to survive

1778
01:38:30,120 --> 01:38:33,440
Speaker 1: by way of violence, learning how to swim with the sharks.

1779
01:38:33,560 --> 01:38:36,000
Speaker 2: Only for one day you be pulled out the water.

1780
01:38:37,479 --> 01:38:39,400
Speaker 2: You was never blonging in the water.

1781
01:38:41,600 --> 01:38:44,000
Speaker 1: You done spend your entire life learning to swim with

1782
01:38:44,080 --> 01:38:44,679
Speaker 1: the sharks.

1783
01:38:44,720 --> 01:38:45,720
Speaker 2: This is what you do.

1784
01:38:46,040 --> 01:38:48,680
Speaker 1: But you get some money, you get some opportunity, they

1785
01:38:48,800 --> 01:38:50,120
Speaker 1: gonna pull you out the water.

1786
01:38:50,280 --> 01:38:52,200
Speaker 2: Now what you know how to survive on land?

1787
01:38:53,160 --> 01:38:56,479
Speaker 1: You and how to survive what he's thinking people and

1788
01:38:56,600 --> 01:39:00,640
Speaker 1: not be emotionally driven and not get tricked in the jumping.

1789
01:39:00,400 --> 01:39:02,360
Speaker 2: Back in the water after you have made it out.

1790
01:39:03,320 --> 01:39:05,559
Speaker 1: So while you even in the water, you gotta be

1791
01:39:05,720 --> 01:39:07,679
Speaker 1: knowing one day I'm gonna get pulled out of this shit.

1792
01:39:07,760 --> 01:39:09,000
Speaker 2: So I gotta get prepared.

1793
01:39:09,760 --> 01:39:12,599
Speaker 1: I gotta prepare myself to one day I'm gonna get

1794
01:39:12,640 --> 01:39:13,920
Speaker 1: pulled out of this water.

1795
01:39:14,160 --> 01:39:16,679
Speaker 2: I ain't gonna spend all my life in this shit.

1796
01:39:17,320 --> 01:39:17,800
Speaker 2: I know this.

1797
01:39:18,000 --> 01:39:20,800
Speaker 1: The universe said it'll be, so I ain't spending all

1798
01:39:20,880 --> 01:39:24,400
Speaker 1: my life going to water with I'm gonna defend myself

1799
01:39:24,400 --> 01:39:27,799
Speaker 1: and that's until the last day, that's until the last

1800
01:39:27,920 --> 01:39:28,759
Speaker 1: shell gone.

1801
01:39:28,760 --> 01:39:31,800
Speaker 2: At this I'm gonna defend myself. But what I ain't

1802
01:39:31,840 --> 01:39:34,040
Speaker 2: gonna do is get caught up in I'm gonna be

1803
01:39:34,040 --> 01:39:35,679
Speaker 2: in this water my entire life.

1804
01:39:35,760 --> 01:39:40,479
Speaker 1: Now I'm packing luggage. I'm packing luggage. You know, packing luggage, say,

1805
01:39:40,520 --> 01:39:44,880
Speaker 1: I plan on get where I'm going. I'm reading books.

1806
01:39:44,920 --> 01:39:47,400
Speaker 2: I'm trying to figure way out because I'm knowing at

1807
01:39:47,439 --> 01:39:51,080
Speaker 2: some point I'm jumping out this water. Somebody gonna send

1808
01:39:51,080 --> 01:39:54,080
Speaker 2: a life rap. I'm getting out this water one day.

1809
01:39:55,760 --> 01:39:58,320
Speaker 2: And that's what I was doing. I was reading, I

1810
01:39:58,400 --> 01:39:58,920
Speaker 2: was learning.

1811
01:39:59,000 --> 01:40:02,200
Speaker 1: I was getting up there goddamn day listening to these

1812
01:40:02,600 --> 01:40:05,280
Speaker 1: talk this high level game, because I knew one day

1813
01:40:05,320 --> 01:40:10,720
Speaker 1: I'm leaving the streets. I'm packing luggage. I plan on

1814
01:40:10,840 --> 01:40:14,679
Speaker 1: land in somewhere at some point. Average I ain't staying

1815
01:40:14,680 --> 01:40:19,599
Speaker 1: in this shit all my life. I don't give a fool.

1816
01:40:19,640 --> 01:40:22,120
Speaker 1: Couldn't figure it out. The people you respect couldn't figure

1817
01:40:22,120 --> 01:40:25,720
Speaker 1: it out. You need some new leaders. The people you

1818
01:40:25,880 --> 01:40:28,400
Speaker 1: respect stuck in the street. You need some new leaders.

1819
01:40:28,439 --> 01:40:33,519
Speaker 1: Then respect them boys, understand them boys and soldiers, But

1820
01:40:33,680 --> 01:40:36,240
Speaker 1: find you some new leaders. Man were looking for the

1821
01:40:36,280 --> 01:40:38,400
Speaker 1: people made it out. When I was talking to her,

1822
01:40:38,479 --> 01:40:40,479
Speaker 1: bow that what he was telling me about me, and

1823
01:40:40,600 --> 01:40:44,120
Speaker 1: I felt it in his spirit. He looked at me, Mell,

1824
01:40:44,240 --> 01:40:46,519
Speaker 1: and he say, man, he was a street dude.

1825
01:40:46,520 --> 01:40:46,680
Speaker 7: Man.

1826
01:40:48,280 --> 01:40:51,120
Speaker 2: He won the one Chief Keith won, the one. We

1827
01:40:51,280 --> 01:40:53,639
Speaker 2: know them bade it out. They made us know it's

1828
01:40:53,680 --> 01:40:56,439
Speaker 2: possible to get you some money on They the.

1829
01:40:56,360 --> 01:41:00,240
Speaker 1: Ones taught us pack some luggage. You gonna land one day.

1830
01:41:02,040 --> 01:41:06,000
Speaker 1: You're gonna get up at this shit one day, and

1831
01:41:06,040 --> 01:41:08,640
Speaker 1: that what loon here to do. And even when you

1832
01:41:08,720 --> 01:41:11,599
Speaker 1: stuck in the missile, you gotta fight every voice, every

1833
01:41:11,720 --> 01:41:16,479
Speaker 1: voice of doubt, every fucking negative thought.

1834
01:41:16,600 --> 01:41:20,439
Speaker 2: You gotta fight the devil's administration. I know what it's like.

1835
01:41:20,680 --> 01:41:23,200
Speaker 2: I'm dealing with it now and then everage.

1836
01:41:23,680 --> 01:41:27,080
Speaker 1: I'm fighting the unanswered cause, the unanswer messages, the left

1837
01:41:27,080 --> 01:41:30,960
Speaker 1: on red that follows unfollows, the unwonted silence. I'm fighting

1838
01:41:30,960 --> 01:41:33,120
Speaker 1: it in the midst of them thinking they watching a

1839
01:41:33,240 --> 01:41:37,439
Speaker 1: drowning man. Niggada already jumped out the water. I'm good,

1840
01:41:39,160 --> 01:41:41,120
Speaker 1: I'm more than good. I'm overly good.

1841
01:41:42,360 --> 01:41:42,559
Speaker 14: Nah.

1842
01:41:42,680 --> 01:41:47,040
Speaker 1: Nah, it's the highest level. I'm talking about supreme game,

1843
01:41:47,600 --> 01:41:48,800
Speaker 1: the highest level.

1844
01:41:48,560 --> 01:41:50,320
Speaker 2: Of game Lord one.

1845
01:41:50,840 --> 01:41:53,120
Speaker 1: It just hurt me to know they think I'm drowning.

1846
01:41:53,160 --> 01:41:56,000
Speaker 1: Then they trying not to man list not. That's what

1847
01:41:56,240 --> 01:41:58,799
Speaker 1: hurt me even more. It's like, oh, they think I'm drowning.

1848
01:42:00,040 --> 01:42:00,559
Speaker 9: I got more.

1849
01:42:00,520 --> 01:42:06,080
Speaker 2: Money, put up the band camp, got poking beans. Ain't

1850
01:42:06,080 --> 01:42:07,000
Speaker 2: no drowning man.

1851
01:42:07,040 --> 01:42:09,479
Speaker 1: I'm just looking for resources and help because I done

1852
01:42:09,560 --> 01:42:12,120
Speaker 1: jumped out the water. I'm living on land. I spent

1853
01:42:12,280 --> 01:42:15,240
Speaker 1: all my life underwater, swimming.

1854
01:42:14,880 --> 01:42:15,559
Speaker 2: With the shawl.

1855
01:42:15,840 --> 01:42:19,800
Speaker 1: I don't know the next move. Somebody helped me. That's

1856
01:42:19,840 --> 01:42:22,920
Speaker 1: the game I'm playing now. But if nothing else, I

1857
01:42:22,920 --> 01:42:26,559
Speaker 1: ain't jumping back in that water. If I get back

1858
01:42:26,600 --> 01:42:29,000
Speaker 1: in the water, they got to grab me and throw

1859
01:42:29,080 --> 01:42:33,240
Speaker 1: me in the water and watch me swim back to

1860
01:42:33,280 --> 01:42:37,320
Speaker 1: the bank. I'm gonna swim right back and get right

1861
01:42:37,320 --> 01:42:40,759
Speaker 1: back out the water. You're dealing with determination on my side.

1862
01:42:41,240 --> 01:42:43,720
Speaker 1: You ain't dealing with no puppy. You dealing with a

1863
01:42:43,760 --> 01:42:46,720
Speaker 1: big dog. I'm gonna make sure every single time they

1864
01:42:46,760 --> 01:42:49,000
Speaker 1: try to throw me in the water, I'm swimming right

1865
01:42:49,040 --> 01:42:49,920
Speaker 1: back to the bank.

1866
01:42:50,120 --> 01:42:52,040
Speaker 2: I know what it's like being on land now.

1867
01:42:52,080 --> 01:42:56,280
Speaker 1: I got luggage, and I tell every young pack looking

1868
01:42:56,560 --> 01:42:58,280
Speaker 1: you're gonna be up out of that one day.

1869
01:42:58,800 --> 01:43:02,799
Speaker 2: Don't get stuck in that shit. They done tricked all us.

1870
01:43:02,880 --> 01:43:07,479
Speaker 1: Like reputation is keen, when legacy is keen, Leave something

1871
01:43:07,479 --> 01:43:09,920
Speaker 1: for your loved ones in your family, your little boys

1872
01:43:09,920 --> 01:43:12,639
Speaker 1: to look up too. No matter what they tell my sons,

1873
01:43:12,800 --> 01:43:15,000
Speaker 1: my son's gonna be able to see my daddy put

1874
01:43:15,000 --> 01:43:18,720
Speaker 1: the work down. They get old enough to recognize the

1875
01:43:18,760 --> 01:43:21,840
Speaker 1: difference between the talkers and the doors. My daddy was

1876
01:43:21,920 --> 01:43:24,920
Speaker 1: a door. He were one of them men. He when

1877
01:43:24,960 --> 01:43:28,000
Speaker 1: he got it done. It's a fact. My mama grew

1878
01:43:28,120 --> 01:43:30,040
Speaker 1: up in the ghetto, and she done all she can.

1879
01:43:30,120 --> 01:43:33,599
Speaker 1: She compromised everything she had to make sure I look good,

1880
01:43:33,880 --> 01:43:36,640
Speaker 1: make sure I went to school with good clothes. But

1881
01:43:36,720 --> 01:43:41,599
Speaker 1: she never put herself in position. It's documented. Her son

1882
01:43:41,720 --> 01:43:46,719
Speaker 1: figured it out. It's documented them little boys. Daddy figured

1883
01:43:46,720 --> 01:43:51,480
Speaker 1: it out, that boy nephew figured it out. It's documented.

1884
01:43:51,560 --> 01:43:56,040
Speaker 1: I come from nothing. I don't got nothing to prove.

1885
01:43:56,080 --> 01:43:59,280
Speaker 1: As it pertains to that, don't get caught proving yourself

1886
01:43:59,280 --> 01:43:59,879
Speaker 1: in the arena.

1887
01:43:59,880 --> 01:44:01,439
Speaker 2: They don't matter. Love one.

1888
01:44:01,720 --> 01:44:04,000
Speaker 1: One thing I know is a low frequency. It's a

1889
01:44:04,040 --> 01:44:08,720
Speaker 1: low vibration. And the devil is infiltrated the ghetto. The

1890
01:44:08,760 --> 01:44:12,479
Speaker 1: devil is infiltrated the ghetto. And so why they're killing

1891
01:44:12,520 --> 01:44:14,880
Speaker 1: each other. It's always gonna be an unanswered question for

1892
01:44:15,000 --> 01:44:16,759
Speaker 1: me because it's something I can't understand.

1893
01:44:16,800 --> 01:44:18,920
Speaker 2: I understand defending yourself.

1894
01:44:18,600 --> 01:44:21,600
Speaker 1: I can never understand pulling up to a party and

1895
01:44:21,760 --> 01:44:25,840
Speaker 1: hitting and hitting people who are not involved in anything.

1896
01:44:26,439 --> 01:44:27,800
Speaker 2: I just couldn't understand it.

1897
01:44:27,960 --> 01:44:30,000
Speaker 1: And the farther i get away from the ghetto, the

1898
01:44:30,040 --> 01:44:33,720
Speaker 1: more information I'm getting in the high level I'm going up,

1899
01:44:33,720 --> 01:44:35,559
Speaker 1: and the more I'm reading, and the more I'm getting

1900
01:44:35,600 --> 01:44:40,760
Speaker 1: closer to God, I'm starting to realize that retaliation is

1901
01:44:40,800 --> 01:44:46,479
Speaker 1: a trap. There's a way to do everything, like there's

1902
01:44:46,520 --> 01:44:52,720
Speaker 1: a way to do anything. You hear me, You've got

1903
01:44:52,760 --> 01:44:57,680
Speaker 1: to remember that a war kills expectation. That's why the

1904
01:44:57,800 --> 01:45:01,360
Speaker 1: young don't even plan on making it out. They look

1905
01:45:01,400 --> 01:45:06,439
Speaker 1: at themself. Man, listen, man, I'm twenty one, I'm twenty three.

1906
01:45:08,200 --> 01:45:10,679
Speaker 1: I don't even know how many of them, knowing afty

1907
01:45:10,760 --> 01:45:15,880
Speaker 1: years old, that really grew up gang banging. I don't

1908
01:45:15,880 --> 01:45:18,040
Speaker 1: know a bunch of that I knew was super tough

1909
01:45:18,400 --> 01:45:20,479
Speaker 1: that made it to an old age. I know one

1910
01:45:20,640 --> 01:45:23,599
Speaker 1: real gangster that I know for a fact that wentn't

1911
01:45:23,600 --> 01:45:25,800
Speaker 1: put in so much work, and he spent a lot

1912
01:45:25,800 --> 01:45:29,320
Speaker 1: of time in jail, But he probably the oldest real

1913
01:45:29,439 --> 01:45:32,280
Speaker 1: gangster I know. All the gangsters died when I was younger.

1914
01:45:33,000 --> 01:45:35,200
Speaker 1: As I looked up too that was really them. Men

1915
01:45:35,360 --> 01:45:37,080
Speaker 1: that died when I were young.

1916
01:45:37,400 --> 01:45:41,160
Speaker 2: I attended funerals, are real big dogs. At fifteen sixteen,

1917
01:45:41,280 --> 01:45:46,439
Speaker 2: watching him die, who we respected, who can walk in

1918
01:45:46,560 --> 01:45:52,479
Speaker 2: any neighborhood, gang banging and respected around this town, didn't

1919
01:45:52,479 --> 01:45:56,840
Speaker 2: make it to my age, Lord one, So how are

1920
01:45:56,880 --> 01:46:00,639
Speaker 2: you doing anything but setting yourself up for failure down

1921
01:46:00,720 --> 01:46:03,120
Speaker 2: those pathways?

1922
01:46:03,560 --> 01:46:04,000
Speaker 6: Average?

1923
01:46:05,840 --> 01:46:15,519
Speaker 2: And so God put it on my heart. Chicago, Memphis, Cashville, Miami, Atlanta, LA.

1924
01:46:16,439 --> 01:46:21,360
Speaker 1: The whole black culture. We got some unraveling to do. Love,

1925
01:46:22,960 --> 01:46:27,120
Speaker 1: We got some unraveling the due. If we gonna be anything,

1926
01:46:27,200 --> 01:46:30,479
Speaker 1: let's be soldiers for man. Listen, man, let me not

1927
01:46:30,560 --> 01:46:33,680
Speaker 1: even But I'm just saying, love one. Let's not keep

1928
01:46:33,720 --> 01:46:36,519
Speaker 1: doing this to each other. But the new question is

1929
01:46:36,560 --> 01:46:40,519
Speaker 1: how do we end it? And that's something that I

1930
01:46:40,560 --> 01:46:43,559
Speaker 1: haven't came up with an answer to yet. There ain't

1931
01:46:43,640 --> 01:46:45,800
Speaker 1: enough opportunity for everybody to make it.

1932
01:46:45,840 --> 01:46:46,519
Speaker 2: And I know that.

1933
01:46:46,600 --> 01:46:48,920
Speaker 1: And that's what hurts your heart is because you know

1934
01:46:49,000 --> 01:46:51,160
Speaker 1: that when you get some money, the only people that

1935
01:46:51,520 --> 01:46:55,040
Speaker 1: has redeemed themselves is that when it got a few dollars.

1936
01:46:55,160 --> 01:46:58,280
Speaker 1: And he kind of understand. But the ones that's broken,

1937
01:46:58,360 --> 01:47:01,000
Speaker 1: they still got their jerseys on it, running around the ghetto,

1938
01:47:01,320 --> 01:47:05,760
Speaker 1: can't figure nothing not. It's rough to try to tell him.

1939
01:47:05,760 --> 01:47:10,000
Speaker 1: They turn that off. Lord, pack some luggage. Plan on

1940
01:47:10,120 --> 01:47:13,200
Speaker 1: landing somewhere else. You may not land where Herbo landed.

1941
01:47:13,280 --> 01:47:15,760
Speaker 1: You may not land what Chief Keith landed. You may

1942
01:47:15,800 --> 01:47:18,320
Speaker 1: not land what Loom landed. You may not lanyd what

1943
01:47:18,400 --> 01:47:21,400
Speaker 1: little baby landed. But pack some luggage. Plan on getting

1944
01:47:21,760 --> 01:47:24,719
Speaker 1: from where you at. And I don't mean I don't

1945
01:47:24,720 --> 01:47:29,160
Speaker 1: mean literally, I mean mentally. Spend some time on your

1946
01:47:29,240 --> 01:47:34,679
Speaker 1: day searching for a pathway. I remember coming up dog

1947
01:47:34,720 --> 01:47:36,599
Speaker 1: and this is why I don't go to funerals now.

1948
01:47:37,640 --> 01:47:40,680
Speaker 1: But I do think my presence is needed in places

1949
01:47:41,320 --> 01:47:44,760
Speaker 1: that I have retired from, because now my face and

1950
01:47:44,840 --> 01:47:49,400
Speaker 1: my voice is more powerful than I could ever imagine.

1951
01:47:50,280 --> 01:47:53,120
Speaker 1: I stopped going to funerals when I was fifteen, sixteen

1952
01:47:53,200 --> 01:47:55,920
Speaker 1: years old. God is my witness. I went to like

1953
01:47:56,040 --> 01:47:59,679
Speaker 1: ten funerals in a year. In a matter of two years,

1954
01:47:59,680 --> 01:48:02,519
Speaker 1: I went like ten fifteen funerals, and I just cut

1955
01:48:02,520 --> 01:48:02,880
Speaker 1: it off.

1956
01:48:02,920 --> 01:48:06,599
Speaker 2: I couldn't take no more. It was like.

1957
01:48:06,560 --> 01:48:11,360
Speaker 1: Losing somebody that was just business as usual, and that

1958
01:48:11,520 --> 01:48:12,360
Speaker 1: hurt my feelings.

1959
01:48:12,360 --> 01:48:14,040
Speaker 2: When I look back at it, and I look over

1960
01:48:14,120 --> 01:48:14,559
Speaker 2: my life.

1961
01:48:14,560 --> 01:48:17,400
Speaker 1: It's like bro, I can name off names where it's like,

1962
01:48:17,680 --> 01:48:20,080
Speaker 1: buried him, then we buried him, then we buried him,

1963
01:48:20,120 --> 01:48:23,000
Speaker 1: then we buried this person, buried that person. Remember he died,

1964
01:48:23,080 --> 01:48:25,400
Speaker 1: then he died, And you will show up to these

1965
01:48:25,400 --> 01:48:28,040
Speaker 1: funerals and it'll take a little bit of you every

1966
01:48:28,080 --> 01:48:35,040
Speaker 1: single time until it become business as usual. So what

1967
01:48:35,200 --> 01:48:39,759
Speaker 1: do you do when getting nothing, getting no results is normal.

1968
01:48:41,200 --> 01:48:44,120
Speaker 2: That's when you deal with a little boy who expectations

1969
01:48:44,640 --> 01:48:45,400
Speaker 2: are retired.

1970
01:48:46,560 --> 01:48:48,920
Speaker 1: He don't even pack no luggage. He don't even plan

1971
01:48:49,000 --> 01:48:51,400
Speaker 1: on never going nowhere. He don't plan on never getting

1972
01:48:51,400 --> 01:48:54,000
Speaker 1: out this situation. I just need to learn the neighborhood,

1973
01:48:54,040 --> 01:48:57,479
Speaker 1: the backstreets around here. I need to just know where

1974
01:48:57,600 --> 01:48:59,120
Speaker 1: Jack and them live at. I need to know what

1975
01:48:59,280 --> 01:49:02,240
Speaker 1: Chicago New live here, because really I'm gonna be serving

1976
01:49:02,280 --> 01:49:04,639
Speaker 1: them for the rest of my life. Come on, Lord,

1977
01:49:04,680 --> 01:49:10,000
Speaker 1: w and pack some lucky God God has the final say.

1978
01:49:10,920 --> 01:49:13,559
Speaker 1: My heart goes out to Chicago, my heart goes out

1979
01:49:13,600 --> 01:49:14,959
Speaker 1: to everyone affected.

1980
01:49:15,000 --> 01:49:17,760
Speaker 2: My heart goes out to our culture because.

1981
01:49:17,479 --> 01:49:23,760
Speaker 1: We need we need a rentalvation, we need some rehabilitation.

1982
01:49:24,280 --> 01:49:26,120
Speaker 2: We need people who.

1983
01:49:25,960 --> 01:49:29,519
Speaker 1: Are breathing life into these youngsters and tell them to

1984
01:49:29,680 --> 01:49:31,360
Speaker 1: pack some luggage.

1985
01:49:31,560 --> 01:49:37,840
Speaker 2: Man, don't put yourself in the trick bag. And I

1986
01:49:37,880 --> 01:49:42,840
Speaker 2: know it's easier said than done, but if it said,

1987
01:49:42,880 --> 01:49:44,320
Speaker 2: it can't be done.

1988
01:49:45,760 --> 01:49:47,599
Speaker 1: I want to move on from this and I talk

1989
01:49:47,640 --> 01:49:50,439
Speaker 1: about it more, maybe at some other point.

1990
01:49:50,560 --> 01:49:51,080
Speaker 6: Dog and.

1991
01:49:53,880 --> 01:49:59,040
Speaker 2: Life is life in right. And I think when you

1992
01:49:59,280 --> 01:50:03,120
Speaker 2: check out of the and you're watching from the bleachers,

1993
01:50:03,160 --> 01:50:06,559
Speaker 2: even if it's from the floor seats, the game look

1994
01:50:06,680 --> 01:50:09,760
Speaker 2: different to you. You can see the files, you can

1995
01:50:09,800 --> 01:50:12,719
Speaker 2: see the reaching. You can see boy he calling that wrong.

1996
01:50:12,800 --> 01:50:15,160
Speaker 2: Boy they don't practice him nothing. Boy, them folks ain't

1997
01:50:15,200 --> 01:50:19,000
Speaker 2: even then his mind ain't in the game. But when

1998
01:50:19,040 --> 01:50:21,519
Speaker 2: you in the game, you don't see all that be

1999
01:50:21,560 --> 01:50:23,559
Speaker 2: on the corner. I'm open, dog district, I'm open.

2000
01:50:23,920 --> 01:50:26,080
Speaker 1: You don't even see him, but on the floor seat

2001
01:50:26,120 --> 01:50:29,880
Speaker 1: saying watch the corner, that corner man always hoping they

2002
01:50:29,880 --> 01:50:33,240
Speaker 1: ain't never guarding him. And sometimes that corner man is

2003
01:50:33,320 --> 01:50:36,040
Speaker 1: I'm speaking towards the pathway of your way out of

2004
01:50:36,080 --> 01:50:40,000
Speaker 1: this thing. And so it's easy for us to talk

2005
01:50:40,000 --> 01:50:44,439
Speaker 1: about it because we're not in it. My heart goes

2006
01:50:44,479 --> 01:50:49,240
Speaker 1: out to the stuck in it. But at some point

2007
01:50:49,600 --> 01:50:51,680
Speaker 1: we got to grow up and pack some luggage. We

2008
01:50:51,760 --> 01:50:54,599
Speaker 1: got places to be in, things to do, We got

2009
01:50:54,600 --> 01:51:00,880
Speaker 1: people to see you dig pack some luggage. Young I

2010
01:51:00,920 --> 01:51:03,080
Speaker 1: never want to talk about this situation that happened a

2011
01:51:03,080 --> 01:51:04,920
Speaker 1: few weeks ago, and I was gonna let it ride

2012
01:51:04,960 --> 01:51:08,679
Speaker 1: and I speak to it, but I think it deserves

2013
01:51:08,680 --> 01:51:12,760
Speaker 1: some attention from our platform and from me in particular,

2014
01:51:13,680 --> 01:51:16,600
Speaker 1: seeing that I do have a relationship with BT. But

2015
01:51:16,640 --> 01:51:21,280
Speaker 1: I'm very disappointed in BT on a number of levels.

2016
01:51:23,760 --> 01:51:24,639
Speaker 2: For those who do.

2017
01:51:24,640 --> 01:51:27,840
Speaker 1: Not know, BT had the BT Awards a couple of

2018
01:51:27,880 --> 01:51:30,880
Speaker 1: weeks ago, and that was a situation where Casanet and

2019
01:51:30,920 --> 01:51:34,040
Speaker 1: a young guy by the name of Tyleell, which is

2020
01:51:34,080 --> 01:51:35,599
Speaker 1: one of Casanet's friends.

2021
01:51:35,720 --> 01:51:37,440
Speaker 2: These dudes both are streamers.

2022
01:51:37,439 --> 01:51:39,760
Speaker 1: We know Casanet is one of the biggest streamers in

2023
01:51:39,800 --> 01:51:42,360
Speaker 1: the world, and what he's been able to do with

2024
01:51:42,479 --> 01:51:47,559
Speaker 1: his platforms lends him a level of exclusivity to some

2025
01:51:47,680 --> 01:51:50,400
Speaker 1: of these red carbs in some of these brands that

2026
01:51:51,000 --> 01:51:53,320
Speaker 1: you know, maybe a lot of people want witness or

2027
01:51:53,400 --> 01:51:55,400
Speaker 1: be able to experience.

2028
01:51:54,840 --> 01:51:55,800
Speaker 2: In their lifetime.

2029
01:51:56,600 --> 01:52:01,400
Speaker 1: And so I've always saluted Casanet's speed Aiden Ross, I've

2030
01:52:01,439 --> 01:52:04,880
Speaker 1: saluted all these young guys because they've been able to

2031
01:52:04,920 --> 01:52:08,840
Speaker 1: make something and they're entertaining. I want to just show

2032
01:52:08,880 --> 01:52:11,559
Speaker 1: you guys how the industry works. And so I'm gonna

2033
01:52:11,600 --> 01:52:14,920
Speaker 1: break down kind of what happened that we're gonna speak

2034
01:52:14,960 --> 01:52:18,640
Speaker 1: about today. Recently, at the twenty twenty five B and

2035
01:52:18,680 --> 01:52:22,040
Speaker 1: T Awards Red carpet stream of ty Leell and his

2036
01:52:22,200 --> 01:52:25,800
Speaker 1: niche Sage were initially denied access, apparently due to a

2037
01:52:25,880 --> 01:52:30,639
Speaker 1: no minor policy and questions around invitations, even though they

2038
01:52:30,640 --> 01:52:35,519
Speaker 1: have been cleared by his team. After word got around,

2039
01:52:35,560 --> 01:52:40,120
Speaker 1: Casinet personally intervened, made a call behind the scenes and

2040
01:52:40,240 --> 01:52:44,200
Speaker 1: instantly got both of the men. So what happened is

2041
01:52:44,280 --> 01:52:47,200
Speaker 1: Tyleell is on the red carpet. He's there part of

2042
01:52:47,280 --> 01:52:51,400
Speaker 1: the whole Cosinet situation. And also you know he has

2043
01:52:51,439 --> 01:52:56,519
Speaker 1: a level of notoriety itself. But he was told that, Yo,

2044
01:52:56,640 --> 01:52:59,080
Speaker 1: your niece can't come on that. Hey stop pay you

2045
01:52:59,160 --> 01:53:02,040
Speaker 1: know you can't go has here. Hey you can't. No,

2046
01:53:02,320 --> 01:53:04,439
Speaker 1: this is something that you can't do. You can't bring

2047
01:53:04,479 --> 01:53:08,120
Speaker 1: her on the red carpet. Pay attention to this video.

2048
01:53:09,160 --> 01:53:10,000
Speaker 2: You know that ahead of time?

2049
01:53:10,000 --> 01:53:14,519
Speaker 3: And I have for you, like there's on the carpet, you.

2050
01:53:14,560 --> 01:53:15,240
Speaker 10: Cannot have it.

2051
01:53:15,560 --> 01:53:17,080
Speaker 2: I just wanted to take a picture in the carpet.

2052
01:53:17,280 --> 01:53:18,640
Speaker 6: You can take a picture, you.

2053
01:53:21,200 --> 01:53:21,360
Speaker 10: Kid.

2054
01:53:21,840 --> 01:53:24,960
Speaker 9: I know today we're talking about the only.

2055
01:53:25,080 --> 01:53:29,000
Speaker 10: People that got to Shore are icons for their kids,

2056
01:53:29,040 --> 01:53:29,559
Speaker 10: because they are.

2057
01:53:30,400 --> 01:53:31,920
Speaker 9: But you cannot have the car.

2058
01:53:33,160 --> 01:53:35,439
Speaker 2: Okay, okay, so should I.

2059
01:53:36,000 --> 01:53:36,760
Speaker 9: I'm gonna call John.

2060
01:53:37,520 --> 01:53:39,920
Speaker 10: At this moment right now, they're not They're never They're

2061
01:53:39,920 --> 01:53:42,320
Speaker 10: not respecting your uncle because your uncle, me, me and

2062
01:53:42,439 --> 01:53:45,040
Speaker 10: you and their eyes because you're the biggest star in

2063
01:53:45,040 --> 01:53:46,280
Speaker 10: the world and I'm one of the biggest stars in

2064
01:53:46,360 --> 01:53:49,280
Speaker 10: the world. Right so at this very moment, they're not

2065
01:53:49,360 --> 01:53:50,599
Speaker 10: really respecting our starts.

2066
01:53:50,439 --> 01:53:51,479
Speaker 4: Out of stage because it's a kid.

2067
01:53:51,720 --> 01:53:54,800
Speaker 10: Because watch everybody clip this right now and remember this,

2068
01:53:55,080 --> 01:53:58,439
Speaker 10: Remember this time they gave me and Sage a hard time.

2069
01:53:58,320 --> 01:54:00,439
Speaker 9: On the red carpet. You know what I'm saying, I'm

2070
01:54:00,479 --> 01:54:02,520
Speaker 9: not mad. I'm motivated.

2071
01:54:02,560 --> 01:54:03,200
Speaker 2: You fee what I'm saying.

2072
01:54:03,240 --> 01:54:03,800
Speaker 10: I'm not mad.

2073
01:54:03,880 --> 01:54:04,559
Speaker 2: I'm motivated.

2074
01:54:04,840 --> 01:54:05,400
Speaker 9: I'm not mad.

2075
01:54:05,479 --> 01:54:06,120
Speaker 2: I'm motivated.

2076
01:54:06,120 --> 01:54:06,720
Speaker 9: You know what I'm saying.

2077
01:54:07,000 --> 01:54:08,760
Speaker 10: It's just kind of frustrated. Why would I fly my

2078
01:54:08,840 --> 01:54:11,800
Speaker 10: knees from New York to LA and I knew she

2079
01:54:11,800 --> 01:54:13,479
Speaker 10: couldn't reach the red card? You feel I'm saying, But

2080
01:54:13,920 --> 01:54:15,960
Speaker 10: I'm not mad. I'm motivated, you feel I'm saying, and

2081
01:54:16,040 --> 01:54:16,599
Speaker 10: we gotta.

2082
01:54:16,400 --> 01:54:17,439
Speaker 4: Just work hard the chat chat.

2083
01:54:17,479 --> 01:54:18,639
Speaker 9: Everybody's been in a W chat chat.

2084
01:54:18,680 --> 01:54:20,080
Speaker 2: Don't even be mad. You know what I'm saying.

2085
01:54:20,160 --> 01:54:22,160
Speaker 10: Yat Be handled it very well. Y'all handed it very well.

2086
01:54:22,479 --> 01:54:24,439
Speaker 10: And it's all about It's all about how we're gonna

2087
01:54:24,439 --> 01:54:25,920
Speaker 10: move That's all about what we're gonna.

2088
01:54:25,720 --> 01:54:27,840
Speaker 2: Do moving forward. You feel me, But just remember this

2089
01:54:27,960 --> 01:54:30,880
Speaker 2: moment as of right now, you feel I'm saying. You

2090
01:54:31,000 --> 01:54:33,280
Speaker 2: heard them say that, Yo, we can't have kids on

2091
01:54:33,440 --> 01:54:38,280
Speaker 2: there because there's liquor. You can see this in real time.

2092
01:54:38,360 --> 01:54:40,640
Speaker 1: Me as a grown man, maybe not ty Lil and

2093
01:54:40,680 --> 01:54:42,920
Speaker 1: them they're kind of younger, so they you know, they

2094
01:54:43,000 --> 01:54:45,160
Speaker 1: have a certain level of respect for authority. And also,

2095
01:54:45,280 --> 01:54:48,880
Speaker 1: let me say this, w mindset for ty Lie in

2096
01:54:48,960 --> 01:54:52,000
Speaker 1: that moment, because his reaction in that moment could have

2097
01:54:52,120 --> 01:54:53,880
Speaker 1: ruined the entire scenario.

2098
01:54:54,640 --> 01:54:56,640
Speaker 2: But he just held it down even though I know

2099
01:54:56,800 --> 01:54:57,200
Speaker 2: he was.

2100
01:54:57,880 --> 01:55:02,720
Speaker 1: Affected emotionally baited in that moment because it's like I

2101
01:55:02,840 --> 01:55:05,240
Speaker 1: see kids on the red carpet, and so you see them,

2102
01:55:06,040 --> 01:55:08,440
Speaker 1: you see them in real time, BT you see them

2103
01:55:08,480 --> 01:55:12,840
Speaker 1: in real time with the parameters saying that, well, we

2104
01:55:12,920 --> 01:55:15,440
Speaker 1: can't have kids. They're separate icons and this is liquid.

2105
01:55:15,480 --> 01:55:18,600
Speaker 1: They definitely can't have miners, especially that one. I think

2106
01:55:18,680 --> 01:55:21,280
Speaker 1: that's the part that would have got me, especially this one.

2107
01:55:23,080 --> 01:55:23,880
Speaker 1: What do you mean by that?

2108
01:55:24,040 --> 01:55:24,240
Speaker 2: Love?

2109
01:55:25,120 --> 01:55:28,640
Speaker 1: Average, if you don't mind clarifying question, what do you

2110
01:55:28,720 --> 01:55:29,600
Speaker 1: mean by that love?

2111
01:55:30,760 --> 01:55:32,520
Speaker 2: Especially this one? What does that mean?

2112
01:55:32,640 --> 01:55:32,840
Speaker 15: Love?

2113
01:55:32,920 --> 01:55:35,320
Speaker 2: Give me a little bit more? Yeah, let me get

2114
01:55:35,320 --> 01:55:36,160
Speaker 2: a little more on that.

2115
01:55:36,560 --> 01:55:41,520
Speaker 1: Can I hear a little more about that, especially this one? Yeah,

2116
01:55:41,600 --> 01:55:42,960
Speaker 1: let me get a little bit more on that.

2117
01:55:43,200 --> 01:55:43,600
Speaker 10: You did.

2118
01:55:44,920 --> 01:55:49,360
Speaker 1: But he handled itself well with him knowing that that

2119
01:55:49,560 --> 01:55:55,840
Speaker 1: scenario didn't sound It didn't sound right. He knew that

2120
01:55:55,960 --> 01:55:58,480
Speaker 1: that scenario didn't sound right, So we hit up cassing

2121
01:55:58,560 --> 01:56:03,280
Speaker 1: that I want you to see when Casa net shows up,

2122
01:56:06,000 --> 01:56:08,680
Speaker 1: I want you to see what Casant does.

2123
01:56:08,960 --> 01:56:09,600
Speaker 2: Pay attention.

2124
01:56:10,440 --> 01:56:12,680
Speaker 3: But but literally could not get through there.

2125
01:56:12,800 --> 01:56:13,560
Speaker 4: That's crazy, he said.

2126
01:56:13,960 --> 01:56:15,600
Speaker 10: Listen, they said it's illegal, sad kids on the car

2127
01:56:15,640 --> 01:56:17,440
Speaker 10: because it's liquid, and they said right there.

2128
01:56:17,320 --> 01:56:19,160
Speaker 2: And then they said only icons on the carpet.

2129
01:56:20,360 --> 01:56:23,560
Speaker 4: They told that's glazing. Like I was gonna say that word,

2130
01:56:23,560 --> 01:56:24,680
Speaker 4: but I don't. I an't want to get kicked an

2131
01:56:25,200 --> 01:56:27,520
Speaker 4: I wanted to say more than that, but I'm not.

2132
01:56:27,520 --> 01:56:30,520
Speaker 11: Treating hall rooms good.

2133
01:56:30,520 --> 01:56:32,760
Speaker 2: I can't get rid. They wasn't let you get right here,

2134
01:56:33,080 --> 01:56:33,480
Speaker 2: you get read.

2135
01:56:33,840 --> 01:56:38,240
Speaker 4: That's crazy, like good, I can't get rid they wasn't

2136
01:56:38,320 --> 01:56:39,800
Speaker 4: let you get right here, you get ready.

2137
01:56:40,120 --> 01:56:42,360
Speaker 2: That's crazy. I couldn't get rid of change.

2138
01:56:42,400 --> 01:56:44,600
Speaker 10: Love me for the iron that so I said, thing,

2139
01:56:45,040 --> 01:56:50,160
Speaker 10: that's insane, shit, that's crazy, brood.

2140
01:56:50,240 --> 01:56:51,360
Speaker 4: Only I could want to try that.

2141
01:56:51,480 --> 01:56:54,280
Speaker 10: You go into the carpet, had us out there, they

2142
01:56:54,360 --> 01:56:57,000
Speaker 10: must not know we're family first, if they was like

2143
01:56:57,080 --> 01:57:00,640
Speaker 10: you and I wasn't gonna go, ain't that right?

2144
01:57:00,760 --> 01:57:00,920
Speaker 15: Say?

2145
01:57:02,000 --> 01:57:02,640
Speaker 6: Ain't that right?

2146
01:57:03,640 --> 01:57:03,680
Speaker 7: You?

2147
01:57:05,080 --> 01:57:05,240
Speaker 2: Yo?

2148
01:57:05,520 --> 01:57:12,640
Speaker 1: W consonant for real? W young W consonets line on

2149
01:57:12,920 --> 01:57:21,400
Speaker 1: god W consonant. Like if I'm being honest, I can

2150
01:57:21,520 --> 01:57:24,200
Speaker 1: even see tyleell light up.

2151
01:57:24,680 --> 01:57:25,720
Speaker 2: And this is what I mean.

2152
01:57:25,920 --> 01:57:27,880
Speaker 1: This is why I love the young more than I

2153
01:57:27,960 --> 01:57:30,400
Speaker 1: love these old. These older to try to be like

2154
01:57:30,960 --> 01:57:33,120
Speaker 1: they don't know what's going on. You'll ask these old

2155
01:57:33,320 --> 01:57:34,320
Speaker 1: who got some poor Yo?

2156
01:57:34,440 --> 01:57:36,480
Speaker 2: Can you do that for me? Oh yeah, I can't.

2157
01:57:36,560 --> 01:57:38,720
Speaker 1: It seem like they ain't answering for me, yo, bro

2158
01:57:38,880 --> 01:57:41,960
Speaker 1: y'all the lame look at these young boys. Man, salute

2159
01:57:42,000 --> 01:57:45,400
Speaker 1: to the young men. You understand consonant come through now, man,

2160
01:57:45,440 --> 01:57:47,880
Speaker 1: we that's my guy. Man, y'all can't do us like that.

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01:57:48,240 --> 01:57:49,960
Speaker 1: He grab her and walk right through.

2162
01:57:52,000 --> 01:57:54,040
Speaker 2: You could call some of these bro you think you

2163
01:57:54,120 --> 01:57:55,760
Speaker 2: can get me in contact with something and such. I

2164
01:57:55,880 --> 01:57:57,440
Speaker 2: be wanting to do a deal with them, and I'm

2165
01:57:57,440 --> 01:57:59,680
Speaker 2: a big fan, and let me see it. They never

2166
01:57:59,760 --> 01:58:00,480
Speaker 2: get back to you.

2167
01:58:00,640 --> 01:58:05,360
Speaker 1: Cosinet showed up on BT Red Corbett to someone he

2168
01:58:05,520 --> 01:58:08,600
Speaker 1: calls his homeboy and made sure that he was able

2169
01:58:08,680 --> 01:58:11,200
Speaker 1: to bring his knee, said that he flew from out

2170
01:58:11,240 --> 01:58:15,080
Speaker 1: of town. It don't get no really than that. And

2171
01:58:15,200 --> 01:58:19,000
Speaker 1: Big Loan don't do no glazing. Yeah I do hazen.

2172
01:58:19,080 --> 01:58:22,560
Speaker 1: I don't do glazing. You dig yeah nah nah nah,

2173
01:58:22,560 --> 01:58:25,320
Speaker 1: I don't do no glazing. I'm keeping a gangster. That's

2174
01:58:25,520 --> 01:58:28,920
Speaker 1: real love from Casanet And I appreciate that so much

2175
01:58:29,000 --> 01:58:32,320
Speaker 1: as a young powerful black man. Because some of these

2176
01:58:32,760 --> 01:58:36,800
Speaker 1: his grandfathered in or some of these old they'll play

2177
01:58:36,880 --> 01:58:38,960
Speaker 1: the no, look you be standing.

2178
01:58:38,640 --> 01:58:40,680
Speaker 2: Outside, man. They'd have told me fly up here. I'm

2179
01:58:40,720 --> 01:58:43,160
Speaker 2: trying to get in the thing. Stop answering.

2180
01:58:43,800 --> 01:58:46,520
Speaker 1: That's why if I invite you, you good bro, if

2181
01:58:46,560 --> 01:58:48,960
Speaker 1: I tell you to come, you love you locked in

2182
01:58:49,160 --> 01:58:51,720
Speaker 1: You love. I'm gonna come and get you myself if

2183
01:58:51,800 --> 01:58:55,320
Speaker 1: it comes down to that. I don't play these industry games,

2184
01:58:55,400 --> 01:58:57,920
Speaker 1: and clearly Cosinet doesn't either when it comes.

2185
01:58:57,760 --> 01:58:58,440
Speaker 2: To his people.

2186
01:58:59,520 --> 01:59:04,160
Speaker 1: But BT makes these things up as they go. BT

2187
01:59:04,360 --> 01:59:07,520
Speaker 1: has dropped the ball on several occasions. They seem to

2188
01:59:07,600 --> 01:59:13,080
Speaker 1: be culturally clueless. First, we're gonna listen to Consonette. First,

2189
01:59:13,160 --> 01:59:15,840
Speaker 1: we'll listen to what Casanet said, and then we'll go

2190
01:59:15,960 --> 01:59:16,440
Speaker 1: to Tylee.

2191
01:59:16,560 --> 01:59:17,920
Speaker 2: Pay attention for stuff.

2192
01:59:18,080 --> 01:59:21,240
Speaker 4: Nobody told me nothing. I rap six, that's that says less.

2193
01:59:21,640 --> 01:59:22,640
Speaker 6: Nobody was telling me.

2194
01:59:23,760 --> 01:59:24,440
Speaker 4: The whole time.

2195
01:59:25,480 --> 01:59:28,480
Speaker 16: Recently, the BT Awards happened, and while there a couple

2196
01:59:28,560 --> 01:59:31,000
Speaker 16: of streamers were invited in order to promote the events,

2197
01:59:31,080 --> 01:59:34,880
Speaker 16: that being Kyson Tyler among many others. But while they

2198
01:59:34,920 --> 01:59:38,720
Speaker 16: were there, tylew and specific but asically disrespected or walking

2199
01:59:38,760 --> 01:59:41,000
Speaker 16: on the red carpet because he was not allowed to

2200
01:59:41,120 --> 01:59:43,240
Speaker 16: walk with his younger sibling.

2201
01:59:43,440 --> 01:59:46,960
Speaker 2: He know that ahead of time, and I got to

2202
01:59:47,880 --> 01:59:53,600
Speaker 2: that's crazy. Bro in a carpet.

2203
01:59:54,680 --> 01:59:57,680
Speaker 5: Became the whole energy for stuff. Nobody told me nothing.

2204
01:59:58,120 --> 01:59:59,920
Speaker 5: I rap sakes not that saints less dop.

2205
02:00:00,560 --> 02:00:03,960
Speaker 6: It's get right here. Nobody even telling me shit nigga

2206
02:00:04,520 --> 02:00:05,160
Speaker 6: the whole time.

2207
02:00:05,400 --> 02:00:05,800
Speaker 2: You feel me.

2208
02:00:06,080 --> 02:00:07,160
Speaker 4: Yes, you can say.

2209
02:00:07,120 --> 02:00:07,960
Speaker 9: Rules are rules.

2210
02:00:08,080 --> 02:00:09,560
Speaker 5: Yes you can say rules are rules, but they switch

2211
02:00:09,600 --> 02:00:11,520
Speaker 5: when I came to the spot, So like, are you

2212
02:00:11,560 --> 02:00:13,800
Speaker 5: feel what I'm saying? So she is a little vendable, bro,

2213
02:00:14,040 --> 02:00:17,400
Speaker 5: Like she had her credentials. Tylo had the credentials, says

2214
02:00:17,440 --> 02:00:20,080
Speaker 5: had her credentials. Bro, I don't like how they were

2215
02:00:20,120 --> 02:00:22,080
Speaker 5: treated on a red carpet. It's not like they even

2216
02:00:22,120 --> 02:00:24,840
Speaker 5: stopped me and said, hey, Kle Like, no, no, bro,

2217
02:00:25,120 --> 02:00:27,080
Speaker 5: Like we got through that ship, bro, and what and

2218
02:00:27,200 --> 02:00:28,560
Speaker 5: what a lot of people got messed up?

2219
02:00:28,720 --> 02:00:28,840
Speaker 11: Is that?

2220
02:00:28,960 --> 02:00:31,960
Speaker 5: Like your live streaming is actually what I like about

2221
02:00:32,000 --> 02:00:34,240
Speaker 5: live shreaming events is like it's actually showing the.

2222
02:00:34,280 --> 02:00:35,440
Speaker 4: Real version of what's going on.

2223
02:00:35,840 --> 02:00:39,200
Speaker 5: It's showing the real moments of what people gotta go through,

2224
02:00:39,320 --> 02:00:40,840
Speaker 5: but people don't see it.

2225
02:00:41,120 --> 02:00:44,200
Speaker 10: I can't even think Kyle enough, And I'm very thankful

2226
02:00:44,240 --> 02:00:46,800
Speaker 10: that Kyle's ableue tough to help me and my niece

2227
02:00:46,840 --> 02:00:48,640
Speaker 10: Kit in the red carpet, in my mother's life, you feel,

2228
02:00:48,680 --> 02:00:51,560
Speaker 10: I'm saying, like, and I'm not gonna watch it. It's like,

2229
02:00:51,800 --> 02:00:53,960
Speaker 10: I'm so thankful KD knows that you kid, if you

2230
02:00:53,960 --> 02:00:55,400
Speaker 10: feel them saying, coy know that you guys know that

2231
02:00:55,640 --> 02:00:59,080
Speaker 10: w KI you feel them saying. But I'm way more

2232
02:00:59,240 --> 02:01:02,920
Speaker 10: thankful that me and Ki stuff together and he was

2233
02:01:03,000 --> 02:01:05,760
Speaker 10: able to show the world what happens.

2234
02:01:05,560 --> 02:01:08,400
Speaker 9: Every day off camera.

2235
02:01:08,800 --> 02:01:11,080
Speaker 10: I can't even look at y'all because that shit happens

2236
02:01:11,240 --> 02:01:12,840
Speaker 10: every day off camera.

2237
02:01:13,000 --> 02:01:13,520
Speaker 9: Game and no.

2238
02:01:13,720 --> 02:01:15,920
Speaker 17: And I'm not mad because I know his level to

2239
02:01:16,000 --> 02:01:18,640
Speaker 17: this shit. I know his levels to this shit. I

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02:01:18,960 --> 02:01:20,960
Speaker 17: know him not bigger in the program. But one thing

2241
02:01:21,000 --> 02:01:25,080
Speaker 17: I could say, nobody's bigger than the program. Nobody's bigger

2242
02:01:25,120 --> 02:01:25,720
Speaker 17: in the program.

2243
02:01:25,920 --> 02:01:27,880
Speaker 15: But for y'all to tell me all of those lies

2244
02:01:28,160 --> 02:01:29,840
Speaker 15: to try to keep this four year old off the

2245
02:01:29,880 --> 02:01:32,520
Speaker 15: red carpet, for Coss not to come through like I'm

2246
02:01:32,520 --> 02:01:35,080
Speaker 15: not gonna lie, well, he came through, and Kyle walked

2247
02:01:35,120 --> 02:01:38,680
Speaker 15: through the Metal Detectives with Sage because I didn't even

2248
02:01:38,680 --> 02:01:39,960
Speaker 15: move through the medtective.

2249
02:01:39,520 --> 02:01:42,520
Speaker 9: With Saves, because I went through really really really see, like, Yo,

2250
02:01:42,680 --> 02:01:43,840
Speaker 9: this is real, this.

2251
02:01:43,920 --> 02:01:44,600
Speaker 6: Shit is shit.

2252
02:01:45,280 --> 02:01:47,040
Speaker 10: If I'm ty little ty lier, this is a very

2253
02:01:47,120 --> 02:01:49,160
Speaker 10: important thing for you to do right here. You have

2254
02:01:49,320 --> 02:01:51,840
Speaker 10: to know your worth. I'm not I'm not fetting no

2255
02:01:51,920 --> 02:01:55,120
Speaker 10: hate anywhere because me personally again in my personal world.

2256
02:01:55,240 --> 02:01:56,040
Speaker 4: It was amazing for me.

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02:01:56,160 --> 02:01:58,520
Speaker 10: If they call again, do you take an opportunity from

2258
02:01:58,520 --> 02:02:00,200
Speaker 10: be easy again or do you say know?

2259
02:02:01,160 --> 02:02:03,800
Speaker 4: The only way you move forward? I feel like is

2260
02:02:03,840 --> 02:02:04,800
Speaker 4: if you get an apology.

2261
02:02:04,880 --> 02:02:05,040
Speaker 15: Game.

2262
02:02:05,160 --> 02:02:07,920
Speaker 4: That's the only way, the only way that you should

2263
02:02:08,160 --> 02:02:09,160
Speaker 4: ever want to work.

2264
02:02:08,960 --> 02:02:11,560
Speaker 10: Again in this area right here, is if you get

2265
02:02:11,640 --> 02:02:14,520
Speaker 10: a sincere, genuine apology for what happened.

2266
02:02:14,680 --> 02:02:16,840
Speaker 4: Complex. I've seen what they do with Chris. I've seen

2267
02:02:16,880 --> 02:02:18,000
Speaker 4: what the Complex how to do with Chris.

2268
02:02:18,120 --> 02:02:19,880
Speaker 10: I wasn't doing enough for with a Complex unless there

2269
02:02:19,920 --> 02:02:22,720
Speaker 10: was an apology and they publicly apologize to him till

2270
02:02:22,760 --> 02:02:23,680
Speaker 10: now we're back on good terms.

2271
02:02:23,720 --> 02:02:24,640
Speaker 4: That's how it should work.

2272
02:02:24,720 --> 02:02:27,440
Speaker 10: Something happens, it should be an apology and they all

2273
02:02:27,520 --> 02:02:27,920
Speaker 10: move forward.

2274
02:02:28,000 --> 02:02:29,560
Speaker 1: The other thing I want to speak to is that

2275
02:02:30,080 --> 02:02:33,560
Speaker 1: these companies like BT, you know, they want these young

2276
02:02:33,680 --> 02:02:36,600
Speaker 1: men's fan bases, but they don't want to actually have

2277
02:02:36,720 --> 02:02:38,200
Speaker 1: a relationship with them.

2278
02:02:38,320 --> 02:02:40,840
Speaker 2: It's almost like, we don't give about you. We just

2279
02:02:40,960 --> 02:02:42,200
Speaker 2: care about your fan base.

2280
02:02:43,000 --> 02:02:46,760
Speaker 1: And for me, that's alarming, especially for something that is

2281
02:02:46,960 --> 02:02:51,120
Speaker 1: named black entertainment television. Also, this is a trick that's

2282
02:02:51,200 --> 02:02:53,560
Speaker 1: being ran in this industry is that they put black

2283
02:02:53,640 --> 02:02:56,160
Speaker 1: on something, and then they don't even stand for the

2284
02:02:56,240 --> 02:02:57,440
Speaker 1: Black creator at all.

2285
02:02:58,400 --> 02:03:00,440
Speaker 2: This is part of the industry trick.

2286
02:03:00,560 --> 02:03:03,879
Speaker 1: Even in rep you'll hear a lie familia and family

2287
02:03:03,960 --> 02:03:04,800
Speaker 1: and gang and we.

2288
02:03:05,400 --> 02:03:08,320
Speaker 2: You know, we for life and all of that. These

2289
02:03:08,400 --> 02:03:11,000
Speaker 2: are tricks that people run, so you don't run the.

2290
02:03:11,080 --> 02:03:14,000
Speaker 1: Chicks and balances to say, well, how are you actually

2291
02:03:14,160 --> 02:03:14,920
Speaker 1: treating people?

2292
02:03:15,760 --> 02:03:17,680
Speaker 2: Are you actually for the creator?

2293
02:03:18,280 --> 02:03:20,600
Speaker 1: Do you care about us or just want to tap

2294
02:03:20,640 --> 02:03:23,280
Speaker 1: into our audience to run your numbers up even more

2295
02:03:23,480 --> 02:03:27,880
Speaker 1: or expand your brand equity with the young folks. A

2296
02:03:27,960 --> 02:03:31,520
Speaker 1: lot of times they don't give eighth about the people.

2297
02:03:31,880 --> 02:03:36,280
Speaker 1: They just care about the platform. Naming something black entertainment

2298
02:03:36,400 --> 02:03:41,120
Speaker 1: television and not even with black entertainers in a way

2299
02:03:41,840 --> 02:03:44,240
Speaker 1: that's conducive to where they're trying to go or what

2300
02:03:44,320 --> 02:03:47,960
Speaker 1: they're trying to do is very alarming. There is no

2301
02:03:48,280 --> 02:03:52,160
Speaker 1: value in an invite to the feasts. If they tie

2302
02:03:52,240 --> 02:03:55,520
Speaker 1: your hands behind your back, you just gonna smell the food.

2303
02:03:55,600 --> 02:03:56,240
Speaker 2: You can't do it.

2304
02:03:56,360 --> 02:03:58,800
Speaker 1: You're just gonna You're gonna sit there smelling the food.

2305
02:03:58,960 --> 02:04:00,840
Speaker 1: You can't even eat nothing, and you can't get your

2306
02:04:00,880 --> 02:04:03,800
Speaker 1: hands on nothing. You can't move and do nothing. You

2307
02:04:04,040 --> 02:04:06,480
Speaker 1: just get to smell the food that they cooking and

2308
02:04:06,640 --> 02:04:11,520
Speaker 1: they eating. But it's for the blacks. It's black entertain

2309
02:04:11,680 --> 02:04:15,000
Speaker 1: and it's black this. It's black that, yo. My pay attention.

2310
02:04:15,120 --> 02:04:16,040
Speaker 2: I'm glad the young.

2311
02:04:15,960 --> 02:04:19,600
Speaker 1: Boys expose that because that's a trick that's always being ran.

2312
02:04:19,680 --> 02:04:21,520
Speaker 1: I want to listen to a little bit more ty

2313
02:04:21,640 --> 02:04:23,760
Speaker 1: Lil before we come back with some more commentary.

2314
02:04:24,080 --> 02:04:26,720
Speaker 10: Pay attention some people out there, I'm their idol, I'm

2315
02:04:26,760 --> 02:04:32,280
Speaker 10: somebody's son. I'm a brother, I'm an uncle, and I'm

2316
02:04:32,320 --> 02:04:36,320
Speaker 10: a king in my eyes and my eyes. Bet, I'm

2317
02:04:36,360 --> 02:04:40,360
Speaker 10: a king and my eyes I'm that and my eyes

2318
02:04:40,640 --> 02:04:45,120
Speaker 10: I'm a kon me yes me, Tyllo, Johnny James, I said,

2319
02:04:45,200 --> 02:04:52,920
Speaker 10: my ain't no average bet, no bet employees to you guys,

2320
02:04:54,000 --> 02:04:56,960
Speaker 10: I'm a kon to myself. I'm a icon to myself.

2321
02:04:57,040 --> 02:05:01,360
Speaker 10: I'm a king and to myself, Yes, I'm that. And

2322
02:05:01,520 --> 02:05:05,640
Speaker 10: I'm gonna be honest to the to the fat out

2323
02:05:05,720 --> 02:05:07,600
Speaker 10: there because I didn't even get to speak to your fetis.

2324
02:05:08,040 --> 02:05:12,240
Speaker 10: You suck to the fat out there on that carpet

2325
02:05:12,280 --> 02:05:15,440
Speaker 10: that was sucking my and that told me to my

2326
02:05:15,800 --> 02:05:18,560
Speaker 10: face because I don't give y'all know how to go

2327
02:05:20,400 --> 02:05:23,240
Speaker 10: on a carpet, to set a good example, for to

2328
02:05:23,280 --> 02:05:25,360
Speaker 10: set a good example to the people that was watching me,

2329
02:05:25,640 --> 02:05:26,600
Speaker 10: and then to the set a good.

2330
02:05:26,480 --> 02:05:27,440
Speaker 9: Example to my niece.

2331
02:05:27,760 --> 02:05:31,080
Speaker 10: Of course I'm gonna keep my composure because I ain't

2332
02:05:31,080 --> 02:05:34,200
Speaker 10: a leader, and of course I'm gonna be a good

2333
02:05:34,240 --> 02:05:36,760
Speaker 10: role model to my niece. And I'm not about to argue.

2334
02:05:36,840 --> 02:05:38,360
Speaker 10: I'm not about to yell, and I'm not about to

2335
02:05:38,360 --> 02:05:40,040
Speaker 10: come out of my face in front of my little niece.

2336
02:05:40,120 --> 02:05:40,840
Speaker 2: That's not what you do.

2337
02:05:41,240 --> 02:05:44,400
Speaker 10: She's a kid and she gives she's gonna understand that,

2338
02:05:44,440 --> 02:05:47,240
Speaker 10: she's gonna remember that. So it's a bunch of different.

2339
02:05:47,000 --> 02:05:47,560
Speaker 9: Reasons, chack.

2340
02:05:47,880 --> 02:05:50,240
Speaker 10: While I really kept my composure, and it's a bunch

2341
02:05:50,240 --> 02:05:52,720
Speaker 10: of different reasons why I did not leave. Yes, they

2342
02:05:52,760 --> 02:05:54,480
Speaker 10: did make me feel a way, and yes, at the

2343
02:05:54,520 --> 02:05:56,000
Speaker 10: same time, I did feel like I was kissing that

2344
02:05:56,320 --> 02:05:57,640
Speaker 10: because I feel like everybody's.

2345
02:05:57,240 --> 02:05:58,080
Speaker 4: Giving me to run around.

2346
02:05:58,400 --> 02:06:01,280
Speaker 10: You feel what I'm saying. But at the same time,

2347
02:06:01,360 --> 02:06:03,360
Speaker 10: it was all learning experience and at the same time

2348
02:06:03,400 --> 02:06:03,880
Speaker 10: and it was all.

2349
02:06:03,840 --> 02:06:04,560
Speaker 9: Sudden done.

2350
02:06:07,000 --> 02:06:11,880
Speaker 10: Bat I mean to bt employees, y'all really show y'all

2351
02:06:11,920 --> 02:06:12,440
Speaker 10: true colors.

2352
02:06:12,480 --> 02:06:16,360
Speaker 9: How does it feel for a fact to tell me

2353
02:06:17,560 --> 02:06:20,480
Speaker 9: what she said, it goes. He looked at me. I

2354
02:06:20,560 --> 02:06:21,640
Speaker 9: y'all got to clip the lip at me.

2355
02:06:21,680 --> 02:06:24,720
Speaker 10: Literally said, Okay, I'm telling you, even if he comes,

2356
02:06:25,120 --> 02:06:26,680
Speaker 10: nobody's that she's not getting in.

2357
02:06:27,200 --> 02:06:28,040
Speaker 9: Nobody can get her in.

2358
02:06:29,400 --> 02:06:32,000
Speaker 10: I want somebody to make an edit and say a

2359
02:06:32,120 --> 02:06:34,880
Speaker 10: few moments later, Hostage.

2360
02:06:40,200 --> 02:06:42,920
Speaker 9: A few moments later, Hostage.

2361
02:06:44,600 --> 02:06:49,160
Speaker 4: Please, can somebody please make a edit?

2362
02:06:50,200 --> 02:06:51,320
Speaker 9: I hope it's in the reddit.

2363
02:06:51,600 --> 02:06:53,440
Speaker 10: I hope it's in the reddit because I'm gonna do

2364
02:06:53,480 --> 02:06:55,640
Speaker 10: a few reactions that I'm getting over you feel.

2365
02:06:55,400 --> 02:06:57,520
Speaker 9: I'm saying, I got ship claif my father did, and.

2366
02:06:58,720 --> 02:07:00,760
Speaker 2: I will be at the.

2367
02:07:05,640 --> 02:07:06,240
Speaker 9: NBA draft.

2368
02:07:06,560 --> 02:07:07,080
Speaker 6: It ain't.

2369
02:07:15,560 --> 02:07:20,080
Speaker 9: Yo. I'm not gonna lie on my life.

2370
02:07:20,280 --> 02:07:20,480
Speaker 10: Chat.

2371
02:07:21,640 --> 02:07:26,520
Speaker 9: I'm not gonna lie on my life. And it's like,

2372
02:07:26,760 --> 02:07:28,960
Speaker 9: I'm so thankful God knows that you could if you

2373
02:07:28,960 --> 02:07:30,360
Speaker 9: feel them saying, Cad know that you guys know that

2374
02:07:30,600 --> 02:07:33,080
Speaker 9: w Ki check you feel what I'm saying. But I'm

2375
02:07:33,400 --> 02:07:36,840
Speaker 9: way more thankful that me and Ki.

2376
02:07:37,160 --> 02:07:39,720
Speaker 10: Stuck together and we was able to show the world

2377
02:07:40,040 --> 02:07:46,680
Speaker 10: what happens every day off camera. I can't even look

2378
02:07:46,680 --> 02:07:48,880
Speaker 10: at Chap because that happens every.

2379
02:07:48,720 --> 02:07:49,920
Speaker 9: Day off camera.

2380
02:07:50,080 --> 02:07:50,280
Speaker 15: Game.

2381
02:07:53,360 --> 02:07:54,840
Speaker 17: It ain't everything on.

2382
02:07:55,040 --> 02:07:59,400
Speaker 7: My mother's life. That shit happens every day off camera.

2383
02:08:02,560 --> 02:08:05,760
Speaker 7: Every day off camera, that happens.

2384
02:08:05,840 --> 02:08:08,560
Speaker 9: Bro, they're gonna tell me.

2385
02:08:09,160 --> 02:08:11,280
Speaker 10: Somebody whispered to me and said, Bro, this is not

2386
02:08:11,400 --> 02:08:13,360
Speaker 10: I think you should entrigue because this is not gonna

2387
02:08:13,360 --> 02:08:15,839
Speaker 10: be a good look for brands out there in the future.

2388
02:08:18,240 --> 02:08:23,520
Speaker 9: No, I'm not gonna entreme one and two.

2389
02:08:24,080 --> 02:08:26,400
Speaker 10: It's not gonna be a good look for be et

2390
02:08:26,720 --> 02:08:29,880
Speaker 10: staff and employee employees in the future.

2391
02:08:30,640 --> 02:08:32,080
Speaker 14: That's what It's not gonna be a good look for

2392
02:08:32,920 --> 02:08:38,480
Speaker 14: for you guys to say. For that's it for y'all

2393
02:08:38,560 --> 02:08:46,160
Speaker 14: to say, for you guys to say, for you guys to.

2394
02:08:46,200 --> 02:08:52,280
Speaker 10: Say, only icon kids could come on the carpet, says

2395
02:08:52,320 --> 02:08:59,680
Speaker 10: cannot come on a carpet because this alcohol the icon

2396
02:08:59,800 --> 02:09:02,600
Speaker 10: ca it's that can come. We got this, they got

2397
02:09:02,720 --> 02:09:05,880
Speaker 10: to approve beforehand. And it's four people kids. If I

2398
02:09:06,000 --> 02:09:10,720
Speaker 10: remember her name, I think they said Mariah Carey. I

2399
02:09:10,800 --> 02:09:16,200
Speaker 10: forgot who they said. It was so much different, so

2400
02:09:16,440 --> 02:09:19,680
Speaker 10: much different scenarios. It was so much different things being

2401
02:09:19,800 --> 02:09:21,800
Speaker 10: told to me. It was so much different.

2402
02:09:22,000 --> 02:09:23,800
Speaker 9: Oh, she can't come in the cart because this says

2403
02:09:23,800 --> 02:09:24,040
Speaker 9: she can.

2404
02:09:24,000 --> 02:09:25,720
Speaker 10: Come in the car because this, because this, because this,

2405
02:09:25,880 --> 02:09:26,240
Speaker 10: because that.

2406
02:09:26,360 --> 02:09:26,760
Speaker 9: Because this.

2407
02:09:29,320 --> 02:09:30,160
Speaker 6: For consa that.

2408
02:09:32,000 --> 02:09:39,120
Speaker 10: To do this, for constant that, to do this, Constant

2409
02:09:39,160 --> 02:09:44,000
Speaker 10: that walked into that carpet, like Lebron walking into the

2410
02:09:46,400 --> 02:09:50,080
Speaker 10: walking into the Celtics stadium game six, Constant that walked

2411
02:09:50,080 --> 02:09:56,760
Speaker 10: into that carpet. God, bring their kids, tend securities are

2412
02:09:56,840 --> 02:10:03,040
Speaker 10: not cameras. God, go ahead, Where how are all these

2413
02:10:03,120 --> 02:10:05,960
Speaker 10: kids with you? I think I think I'm gonna bring

2414
02:10:06,000 --> 02:10:09,960
Speaker 10: two kids now, two plus twenty eight. I got thirty

2415
02:10:10,000 --> 02:10:13,480
Speaker 10: kids with me, thirty kids, seven grenades, a truck, I

2416
02:10:13,600 --> 02:10:15,200
Speaker 10: got seven different streamers.

2417
02:10:16,720 --> 02:10:29,920
Speaker 6: Okay, God from emis Et.

2418
02:10:32,320 --> 02:10:33,440
Speaker 9: Sage bush Dads.

2419
02:10:36,880 --> 02:10:38,480
Speaker 2: This ship ain't gonna average.

2420
02:10:41,120 --> 02:10:42,000
Speaker 9: Joe y'all dead.

2421
02:10:44,800 --> 02:10:52,560
Speaker 10: Nah, I'm gonna be so on this this like, I'm

2422
02:10:52,560 --> 02:11:00,880
Speaker 10: gonna be so honest. Gang, that's the most mature y'all. Y'all,

2423
02:11:01,040 --> 02:11:03,840
Speaker 10: that's the most mature y'all ever gonna see the game.

2424
02:11:06,480 --> 02:11:10,000
Speaker 10: That's the most mature y'all ever gonna see. Because of

2425
02:11:10,120 --> 02:11:12,800
Speaker 10: my mother's life. If that's how I didn't do little

2426
02:11:12,800 --> 02:11:14,880
Speaker 10: interviews out there because I was just I was mad,

2427
02:11:14,920 --> 02:11:16,760
Speaker 10: but I was grateful. Oh my mother's like, I was

2428
02:11:16,800 --> 02:11:19,520
Speaker 10: so grateful me and says to the picture. It was

2429
02:11:19,560 --> 02:11:21,720
Speaker 10: a whole some moment me and Cod from the Bronx

2430
02:11:21,800 --> 02:11:24,080
Speaker 10: to E B T, Oh my dog. But I'm gonna

2431
02:11:24,080 --> 02:11:26,560
Speaker 10: be honest, if i'd have got on one interview that

2432
02:11:26,640 --> 02:11:28,720
Speaker 10: I would have said from E B T to b

2433
02:11:29,000 --> 02:11:30,640
Speaker 10: T to S M D, I would have said some

2434
02:11:30,760 --> 02:11:32,200
Speaker 10: wild I would have released.

2435
02:11:32,080 --> 02:11:34,800
Speaker 2: Some wild word of my motherhood. Not get it.

2436
02:11:37,360 --> 02:11:38,040
Speaker 10: And yes.

2437
02:11:39,480 --> 02:11:39,680
Speaker 11: And no.

2438
02:11:39,920 --> 02:11:42,360
Speaker 9: And I'm not mad because I know his level of sedition.

2439
02:11:44,040 --> 02:11:45,360
Speaker 6: I know his level.

2440
02:11:46,760 --> 02:11:48,880
Speaker 1: So as you've seen now and again, I do want

2441
02:11:48,920 --> 02:11:51,560
Speaker 1: to be clear too that you know I can't hold

2442
02:11:51,640 --> 02:11:57,400
Speaker 1: the entire BT to the fire, but BT, the people

2443
02:11:57,480 --> 02:12:01,200
Speaker 1: you guys have in position have made mistake after mistake

2444
02:12:01,280 --> 02:12:05,560
Speaker 1: after mistake after mistake, and they just always late to

2445
02:12:05,680 --> 02:12:08,360
Speaker 1: the part. Again, I sent a salute to casanet enty Leo.

2446
02:12:10,240 --> 02:12:12,760
Speaker 1: That's the thing about being early. They don't recognize you

2447
02:12:12,880 --> 02:12:16,720
Speaker 1: into it's too late. I want the youngsters to know

2448
02:12:16,920 --> 02:12:22,400
Speaker 1: as well as me, you have to always remember, never

2449
02:12:22,600 --> 02:12:26,240
Speaker 1: mistake or handshake with a seat at the table.

2450
02:12:26,720 --> 02:12:28,640
Speaker 2: And we'll do that a lot, because.

2451
02:12:30,080 --> 02:12:31,960
Speaker 1: We'll do that a lot because we come from not

2452
02:12:32,880 --> 02:12:35,040
Speaker 1: so just even getting in the vicinity and getting a

2453
02:12:35,120 --> 02:12:37,760
Speaker 1: handshake from some of these people will kind of place

2454
02:12:37,880 --> 02:12:42,520
Speaker 1: us in a scenario where we say, you know what, yo, man,

2455
02:12:42,520 --> 02:12:44,280
Speaker 1: I feel like we in it together now.

2456
02:12:44,680 --> 02:12:46,640
Speaker 2: Now we ain't in it together until they show you

2457
02:12:46,760 --> 02:12:47,520
Speaker 2: we in it together.

2458
02:12:48,720 --> 02:12:52,280
Speaker 1: And BT, you guys have made some monumental mistakes along

2459
02:12:52,400 --> 02:12:55,240
Speaker 1: your journey, especially with your rebrand, and this is just one,

2460
02:12:55,360 --> 02:12:57,120
Speaker 1: Like even with me. I was talking to them and

2461
02:12:57,200 --> 02:13:01,040
Speaker 1: I'm saying to myself, I'm a black man. I'm one

2462
02:13:01,080 --> 02:13:05,600
Speaker 1: of the more respected people in our culture. Period. I

2463
02:13:05,720 --> 02:13:08,320
Speaker 1: got access to every big artist in the culture. They

2464
02:13:08,440 --> 02:13:10,760
Speaker 1: know who I am, they listen to me. I have

2465
02:13:11,040 --> 02:13:14,120
Speaker 1: relationships with some of the biggest names in culture that

2466
02:13:14,400 --> 02:13:20,520
Speaker 1: is period, that is literally period. And so as I'm

2467
02:13:20,560 --> 02:13:23,360
Speaker 1: speaking with BT, and I have my people speaking with BT,

2468
02:13:23,560 --> 02:13:25,120
Speaker 1: and they're saying, Yo, we're gonna try to get you

2469
02:13:25,240 --> 02:13:27,000
Speaker 1: into the media room, and then all of a sudden

2470
02:13:27,040 --> 02:13:29,920
Speaker 1: they go dog And I'm saying to myself, how did

2471
02:13:29,960 --> 02:13:34,200
Speaker 1: this happen? What else can they be looking for? I'm me,

2472
02:13:34,440 --> 02:13:36,960
Speaker 1: I'm someone in culture, well established. I'm on like a

2473
02:13:37,080 --> 02:13:41,000
Speaker 1: four year run, I'm a well established brand, a well

2474
02:13:41,120 --> 02:13:42,240
Speaker 1: established podcast.

2475
02:13:42,320 --> 02:13:43,640
Speaker 2: We got I Heart backing.

2476
02:13:44,840 --> 02:13:48,880
Speaker 1: We're tied in with Black Effect, which BT Black Entertainment,

2477
02:13:49,040 --> 02:13:52,240
Speaker 1: Black Effect. I'm saying whoa, this gotta be a layup.

2478
02:13:52,280 --> 02:13:54,680
Speaker 1: It's a black owned company. I'm a black creator. I'm

2479
02:13:54,720 --> 02:13:57,560
Speaker 1: tied with every black artist in the culture. So they

2480
02:13:57,640 --> 02:14:00,640
Speaker 1: can't be looking for anything black to get it done.

2481
02:14:00,680 --> 02:14:03,520
Speaker 1: They're looking for the white coat signe. This is just

2482
02:14:03,600 --> 02:14:05,640
Speaker 1: what I came up with. They're looking for the white

2483
02:14:05,680 --> 02:14:10,720
Speaker 1: coast signe. And so for me, like I told you

2484
02:14:10,800 --> 02:14:12,680
Speaker 1: guys a long time ago, the black shit in the

2485
02:14:12,760 --> 02:14:17,040
Speaker 1: brand and had you if people put that black shit

2486
02:14:17,120 --> 02:14:20,400
Speaker 1: in the brand, you gotta be careful dog Like BT,

2487
02:14:20,760 --> 02:14:22,960
Speaker 1: you have to be careful because a lot of times

2488
02:14:23,040 --> 02:14:26,400
Speaker 1: it's actually not ran by black people, and they're actually

2489
02:14:26,520 --> 02:14:29,560
Speaker 1: not tapped into Black culture. They just have black in

2490
02:14:29,720 --> 02:14:33,440
Speaker 1: their name to mass themselves as being the pathway or

2491
02:14:33,520 --> 02:14:36,920
Speaker 1: the interstate into black culture when really they're not even

2492
02:14:36,960 --> 02:14:39,800
Speaker 1: tapped in in black culture. And what happens in content

2493
02:14:39,920 --> 02:14:43,040
Speaker 1: world with podcasting, streaming, all these different things is going

2494
02:14:43,120 --> 02:14:45,520
Speaker 1: through what REP went through. I remember when REP had

2495
02:14:45,560 --> 02:14:49,120
Speaker 1: a time where a lot of the labels and brands

2496
02:14:49,160 --> 02:14:52,200
Speaker 1: and shit wouldn't accept a hit as a hit into

2497
02:14:52,280 --> 02:14:56,040
Speaker 1: it was whitewashed. Black people had been said, it's a hit,

2498
02:14:56,120 --> 02:14:58,520
Speaker 1: it's by black people. But when the white people is

2499
02:14:58,600 --> 02:14:59,520
Speaker 1: whitewashed when.

2500
02:14:59,440 --> 02:15:00,480
Speaker 2: They get their hand on it.

2501
02:15:00,600 --> 02:15:05,040
Speaker 1: Now it's officially a hit. That's an oversight. And if

2502
02:15:05,040 --> 02:15:08,560
Speaker 1: I'm being honest, this isn't an oversight by black. If

2503
02:15:08,600 --> 02:15:10,960
Speaker 1: I'm being honest, this isn't the oversight. This is how

2504
02:15:11,000 --> 02:15:16,720
Speaker 1: they operate. Be careful because sometimes you'll think, man, there's

2505
02:15:16,800 --> 02:15:19,800
Speaker 1: just an oversight, now, little when this is how they operate.

2506
02:15:20,160 --> 02:15:26,880
Speaker 2: It's not on it's in that resume doll. This is

2507
02:15:27,000 --> 02:15:28,000
Speaker 2: part of their resume.

2508
02:15:29,120 --> 02:15:31,080
Speaker 1: If they can't go in their roller decks of the

2509
02:15:31,160 --> 02:15:33,880
Speaker 1: white companies or white people, it's gonna be hard for

2510
02:15:33,960 --> 02:15:36,879
Speaker 1: you to even get into something that says black entertainment

2511
02:15:36,960 --> 02:15:39,760
Speaker 1: when you're a black creator. It's almost no way to

2512
02:15:39,840 --> 02:15:42,600
Speaker 1: come back from that. You'll have some of these companies

2513
02:15:42,640 --> 02:15:44,760
Speaker 1: and it's a trick play. They'll asks you to provide

2514
02:15:44,840 --> 02:15:47,760
Speaker 1: everything they know you don't have. That asks you to

2515
02:15:47,840 --> 02:15:52,360
Speaker 1: provide everything you never had, to prove you deserve something

2516
02:15:52,400 --> 02:15:55,920
Speaker 1: that they know they never gonna give you. So if

2517
02:15:55,920 --> 02:15:58,920
Speaker 1: you can get your numbers here like these unreasonable bench marks,

2518
02:15:58,960 --> 02:16:03,360
Speaker 1: these unreasonable expectations on relationships, like they'll put you in

2519
02:16:03,440 --> 02:16:04,280
Speaker 1: a position.

2520
02:16:04,160 --> 02:16:06,800
Speaker 2: Knowing that yo, you put the benchmark out of reach.

2521
02:16:06,920 --> 02:16:07,880
Speaker 2: I can never reach that.

2522
02:16:08,080 --> 02:16:11,840
Speaker 1: But it's in the contract. Oh, but it's in our relationship.

2523
02:16:11,920 --> 02:16:15,240
Speaker 1: If you can just yo, you know, they playing one

2524
02:16:15,320 --> 02:16:19,040
Speaker 1: hundred years worth games on you. And so I asked

2525
02:16:19,080 --> 02:16:22,560
Speaker 1: that BT and other companies out there that hang they

2526
02:16:22,640 --> 02:16:26,080
Speaker 1: had on their part of the culture speaking for the culture.

2527
02:16:26,120 --> 02:16:29,880
Speaker 1: I asked that you guys, please, if you're gonna be

2528
02:16:30,040 --> 02:16:32,120
Speaker 1: for the culture, be for all of the culture, not

2529
02:16:32,280 --> 02:16:36,520
Speaker 1: just the parse with the corporate clearance, because a lot

2530
02:16:36,560 --> 02:16:39,439
Speaker 1: of times you have to have a white corporate clearance

2531
02:16:39,959 --> 02:16:43,480
Speaker 1: for these black companies to greenlight you. Even when you're

2532
02:16:43,520 --> 02:16:46,440
Speaker 1: doing business as getting with some of these rappers and

2533
02:16:46,520 --> 02:16:49,600
Speaker 1: you're going through publicist in the label, Like if you

2534
02:16:49,680 --> 02:16:51,640
Speaker 1: say that you're signed to a white company like a

2535
02:16:51,760 --> 02:16:57,920
Speaker 1: Complex or Barstool, they greenlighted you signed to a black company.

2536
02:16:58,040 --> 02:17:00,520
Speaker 1: Or you're independent black creator that got a bunch of

2537
02:17:00,600 --> 02:17:06,039
Speaker 1: following a bunch of traction, they hesitate because they're looking

2538
02:17:06,200 --> 02:17:11,400
Speaker 1: for the white corporate clearance to make anything happen. And

2539
02:17:11,520 --> 02:17:14,560
Speaker 1: that's what slowed down the rapper and the artists. It's

2540
02:17:14,680 --> 02:17:17,640
Speaker 1: like they no longer have people that are of the

2541
02:17:17,760 --> 02:17:20,879
Speaker 1: culture that's going to find the talent. See a lot

2542
02:17:20,959 --> 02:17:24,120
Speaker 1: of times, the people who benefit from the culture, they

2543
02:17:24,240 --> 02:17:28,480
Speaker 1: often fear the people that built the coature. And so

2544
02:17:28,600 --> 02:17:30,600
Speaker 1: when I say BT is out of the loop, I

2545
02:17:30,640 --> 02:17:32,760
Speaker 1: don't mean they missed the moment. I mean they missed

2546
02:17:32,800 --> 02:17:36,840
Speaker 1: the movement. They missed the movement of streaming, they missed

2547
02:17:36,840 --> 02:17:39,800
Speaker 1: the movement of podcasting. I look in the media room

2548
02:17:39,879 --> 02:17:42,800
Speaker 1: and I see people and I'm saying, yo, it has

2549
02:17:42,879 --> 02:17:45,200
Speaker 1: to be something going on. While I'm not in that

2550
02:17:45,320 --> 02:17:48,520
Speaker 1: media room, or while they told my people that we

2551
02:17:48,680 --> 02:17:53,119
Speaker 1: ran out of room this year, excuse me, I see

2552
02:17:53,200 --> 02:17:55,440
Speaker 1: certain people in there, and I'm saying, Yo, it gotta

2553
02:17:55,520 --> 02:17:58,520
Speaker 1: be something bigger than just you gotta be a black

2554
02:17:58,600 --> 02:18:02,440
Speaker 1: platform with numbers deals, I got everything, every box is

2555
02:18:02,600 --> 02:18:05,600
Speaker 1: checked off, and they just not missing the moment. They

2556
02:18:05,760 --> 02:18:11,320
Speaker 1: missing the movement. But it's not a mistake. It's their

2557
02:18:11,440 --> 02:18:14,520
Speaker 1: business model. BT is supposed to be the post of

2558
02:18:14,600 --> 02:18:16,600
Speaker 1: the culture. But every year they show up blake to

2559
02:18:16,680 --> 02:18:19,879
Speaker 1: their own party. They didn't find Ca Sannett, they didn't

2560
02:18:19,879 --> 02:18:23,080
Speaker 1: help build Tylell, they didn't see us. They wait till

2561
02:18:23,120 --> 02:18:26,120
Speaker 1: we traind go viral picked up by brands, and then

2562
02:18:26,160 --> 02:18:28,240
Speaker 1: they try to act like they've been tapped in. But

2563
02:18:28,400 --> 02:18:32,240
Speaker 1: that's the irony. A network name for US built on US.

2564
02:18:32,360 --> 02:18:35,800
Speaker 1: Can't even recognize us in real time. BT don't follow

2565
02:18:35,840 --> 02:18:39,080
Speaker 1: the culture, follow the coverage. That ain't a vision, that's

2566
02:18:39,120 --> 02:18:43,480
Speaker 1: a TV guide they dealing with. They ain't tapped in.

2567
02:18:44,000 --> 02:18:46,320
Speaker 1: Howd of you're gonna have black in your name but

2568
02:18:46,440 --> 02:18:50,000
Speaker 1: put blindfolds on it in your practice. I'm a black

2569
02:18:50,120 --> 02:18:52,800
Speaker 1: man signed to a black company doing business on the

2570
02:18:52,920 --> 02:18:56,320
Speaker 1: highest level, tapped in with every black artist, and they

2571
02:18:56,400 --> 02:18:57,520
Speaker 1: told me it wasn't room.

2572
02:18:57,600 --> 02:18:59,680
Speaker 2: So I'm no different than Tylerell. They just make it

2573
02:18:59,800 --> 02:19:01,080
Speaker 2: up as they go. Love one.

2574
02:19:01,360 --> 02:19:04,000
Speaker 1: They say that this is the Culture Award Show, but

2575
02:19:04,160 --> 02:19:07,119
Speaker 1: sometimes it feels like they're hosting a party but don't

2576
02:19:07,160 --> 02:19:11,080
Speaker 1: know who they invited. They got black literally in bold letters,

2577
02:19:11,320 --> 02:19:14,039
Speaker 1: but when black creators show up without a middle man,

2578
02:19:14,400 --> 02:19:18,840
Speaker 1: the system glitches. It's not celebration and segregation. See I

2579
02:19:19,080 --> 02:19:21,920
Speaker 1: was gonna go, but I'm not interested in going. This

2580
02:19:22,080 --> 02:19:24,400
Speaker 1: is why sometimes I don't bring my kids. You see

2581
02:19:24,480 --> 02:19:27,440
Speaker 1: Tylee go to that. Sometimes I don't bring my kids

2582
02:19:27,520 --> 02:19:29,640
Speaker 1: places because I know if you do that to me

2583
02:19:29,720 --> 02:19:32,280
Speaker 1: and my children, you ruin our relationship and I can't

2584
02:19:32,320 --> 02:19:35,640
Speaker 1: guarantee how I'm an act I can't guarantee it. That's

2585
02:19:35,680 --> 02:19:39,680
Speaker 1: why I don't put my kids in that situation. It's

2586
02:19:39,760 --> 02:19:43,320
Speaker 1: probably only Baby and P that I feel comfortable showing

2587
02:19:43,400 --> 02:19:44,240
Speaker 1: up literally.

2588
02:19:44,000 --> 02:19:48,160
Speaker 2: With my kids in Charlemagne. Charlemagne are sinned for me.

2589
02:19:48,600 --> 02:19:52,880
Speaker 1: But Bro, like even when Baby when I got to

2590
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Speaker 1: the to the when I got to the window at

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Speaker 1: Baby Show, I had six different tags and six different

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Speaker 1: tickets in six different backstage things. Because Piece and some

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Speaker 1: baby saying something they both sent them up bakes your

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Speaker 1: loom good, you see what I'm saying. So I understand

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Speaker 1: when people with you, they really with you. But I

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Speaker 1: don't bring my kids bro because it's just gross. And

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Speaker 1: I keep myself out of those situations. Man, you know

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Speaker 1: what I'm saying. I just keep myself out of those situations.

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Speaker 1: It's just unfortunate that BT have the culture in his

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Speaker 1: name and then forget what the culture looks like. You know,

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Speaker 1: they saw a kid Tyleell streamer and forgot they were

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Speaker 1: looking directly at the next generation of start power. They

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Speaker 1: still act like access is earned by industry validation, not impact.

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Speaker 1: But who validates them now? The streets are the streamers.

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Speaker 1: I think BT continues to drop the ball. I'm starting

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Speaker 1: to think it's not them missing the moment, it's them

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Speaker 1: missing a movement. And this is just up there podcast

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Speaker 1: with signing out and I'll see you guys next week.

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Speaker 1: I love y'all for sure, for sure. Make sure you

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Speaker 1: hear like, subscribe, share show people, let people know you

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Speaker 1: want to keep seeing these episodes, just don't the way

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna keep doing them.

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Speaker 2: I love you. It's up there podcast. Skid it