WEBVTT - EPISODE 30: Bucks OUT ... Z-Bo IN! 0:00:00.160 --> 0:00:04.240 Welcome to this League Uncut in the world. 0:00:04.000 --> 0:00:05.480 Of twenty four hour NBA news. 0:00:05.680 --> 0:00:09.160 This's you, Lo, Chris Haynes. 0:00:09.440 --> 0:00:17.040 It's so time, Purt Stein, It's so time. 0:00:17.160 --> 0:00:21.799 This League Uncut is underway and on fire. This should 0:00:21.840 --> 0:00:22.680 be a good one. 0:00:23.320 --> 0:00:26.680 Hey everyone, thanks for joining us on another edition of 0:00:26.720 --> 0:00:31.080 This League Uncut. We are taping this on Thursday night, 0:00:31.760 --> 0:00:36.000 only one game tonight. Everybody out there focused on the 0:00:36.080 --> 0:00:40.200 NFL Draft, Not Stein, not Haynes. We're here talking hoops, 0:00:40.200 --> 0:00:45.080 also decompressing after an absolutely crazy Wednesday. Chris, I know 0:00:45.120 --> 0:00:49.960 you were on the sidelines for Warriors Kings, which, as 0:00:50.000 --> 0:00:53.639 amazing as that was. We can barely get to because 0:00:55.320 --> 0:00:58.560 later in the show we're gonna be joined by Grizzlies 0:00:58.640 --> 0:01:02.960 legend Zach Randolph. He help us preview tonight's and I 0:01:03.000 --> 0:01:05.960 say tonight's because of course this will be dropping Friday, 0:01:06.040 --> 0:01:11.000 so z Bowl help us preview Game six of grizz Lakers. 0:01:11.640 --> 0:01:14.360 See if the Grizzlies can make good on Desmond Bain's 0:01:14.400 --> 0:01:18.400 prediction that this thing is going seven. Blakers better finish 0:01:18.480 --> 0:01:20.080 it off. I would not want to be going to 0:01:20.120 --> 0:01:22.280 Memphis for a Game seven if I'm them, But again, 0:01:23.080 --> 0:01:25.800 not much bandwidth in space to talk about Lakers, Gris 0:01:25.880 --> 0:01:29.840 or even Warriors Kings, or even the Knicks advancing and 0:01:29.880 --> 0:01:32.600 the Calves being eliminated. We will get to all that eventually, 0:01:32.640 --> 0:01:36.399 but we got we got to start with with the 0:01:36.440 --> 0:01:43.560 Bucks losing that game five. I'm still trying to digest it. 0:01:43.680 --> 0:01:45.800 I've been trying to write all day, putting this in 0:01:46.280 --> 0:01:50.520 perspective with the printed word, because yes, we've seen number 0:01:50.520 --> 0:01:54.840 eight beat number ones before, but not like this, not 0:01:55.040 --> 0:01:58.840 you know, obviously jannas Attakumpo not being able to Basically 0:01:58.920 --> 0:02:00.920 he only played eleven minutes in the first three games. 0:02:00.920 --> 0:02:03.760 That's certainly a factor, and probably a factor people aren't 0:02:03.800 --> 0:02:07.360 discussing enough. But to lose that game five at home, 0:02:07.400 --> 0:02:10.440 I mean, at the very least, after Jimmy Butler rumbles 0:02:10.440 --> 0:02:16.160 for fifty six, at the very least, you think Milwaukee's 0:02:16.200 --> 0:02:19.720 gonna win at home and take this thing back to Miami, 0:02:20.560 --> 0:02:22.600 and instead it was just I mean, it was just 0:02:22.600 --> 0:02:26.040 a flat out I mean, choke job is polite. I mean, 0:02:26.280 --> 0:02:28.600 they had a sixteen point lead going to the fourth quarter, 0:02:29.440 --> 0:02:35.600 and just throughout the fourth quarter in overtime, they looked 0:02:35.639 --> 0:02:38.000 like a team that had never been there, and this 0:02:38.040 --> 0:02:40.639 is a team that won it all two years ago. 0:02:40.800 --> 0:02:43.760 I don't I mean, ch I don't know how you 0:02:43.800 --> 0:02:45.720 could have monitored it because your game was going on 0:02:45.760 --> 0:02:47.040 at the same time. I mean, that was the air. 0:02:47.120 --> 0:02:49.720 Thing was just crazy last night trying to keep track 0:02:50.280 --> 0:02:53.240 of both of these games. So I'm sure when you 0:02:53.800 --> 0:02:57.760 came away from Warriors Kings, which was plenty heated and 0:02:57.800 --> 0:02:59.959 tight and wild itself, you just must have been show 0:03:01.360 --> 0:03:02.520 saw what happened to the Bucks? 0:03:02.560 --> 0:03:04.880 Yeah, I couldn't. I couldn't keep up because, yeah, I 0:03:04.919 --> 0:03:06.959 was doing that game. But the last thing I saw, 0:03:07.400 --> 0:03:10.720 you know, Lakers Memphis. I saw the Lakers were close 0:03:10.919 --> 0:03:14.240 with Memphis. That's the last I saw. I saw the 0:03:14.280 --> 0:03:18.239 Bucks had a good lead on the Miami Heat. That 0:03:18.360 --> 0:03:21.640 was the last I saw. And I was monitoring a 0:03:21.680 --> 0:03:25.600 little bit of the Cleveland and New York series, which 0:03:26.120 --> 0:03:29.360 it just looked like from the start that the Knicks 0:03:29.400 --> 0:03:30.160 were going to take that. 0:03:30.560 --> 0:03:31.280 So I wasn't. 0:03:31.120 --> 0:03:34.480 Surprised with that, but I was surprised with the Lakers, 0:03:34.480 --> 0:03:37.640 and I was surprised with the more the Roucke Bucks 0:03:37.640 --> 0:03:38.320 folding like. 0:03:38.280 --> 0:03:41.440 That, and that is brutal. You know. 0:03:41.480 --> 0:03:44.560 I covered the Miami Heats that that play the play 0:03:44.600 --> 0:03:47.720 in that they had to beat the Chicago Bulls to 0:03:47.760 --> 0:03:50.600 get into the postseason, and so I was thinking, like, wow, 0:03:50.680 --> 0:03:52.040 that's that's surprise. 0:03:52.360 --> 0:03:54.400 You get in, and. 0:03:54.160 --> 0:03:56.640 You get in because no the Bulls, because no, excuse me, 0:03:56.680 --> 0:04:01.240 Miami Heat. They lost their first player, remember that, who 0:04:01.240 --> 0:04:03.360 do they play their first playing game? 0:04:03.600 --> 0:04:06.560 Yeah, they lost to Atlanta. They had to come from 0:04:06.600 --> 0:04:10.520 behind to beat Chicago. From exactly, they did not look 0:04:10.600 --> 0:04:13.400 good in the playing round whatsoever. You looked very good 0:04:13.400 --> 0:04:18.120 in your all white suit, but the heat in the playing. 0:04:17.760 --> 0:04:19.600 Game I didn't see. I didn't see this at all. 0:04:19.640 --> 0:04:21.600 So I'm like, okay, well, you did all that work 0:04:21.640 --> 0:04:24.400 to get into the playoffs. Good luck, got the Milwaukee 0:04:24.480 --> 0:04:27.800 Bucks first round number one seed, and then Jimmy just 0:04:27.839 --> 0:04:31.440 turns it up like that. Man, God, I don't know 0:04:31.440 --> 0:04:34.560 who could have imagine that. I surely didn't. And that 0:04:34.800 --> 0:04:38.960 is it definitely puts the Markeye Bucks in a bit 0:04:39.000 --> 0:04:42.160 of a conundrum this offseason as far as what do 0:04:42.200 --> 0:04:42.919 they do next? 0:04:43.720 --> 0:04:45.520 Yeah, I mean, look, the first focus is going to 0:04:45.560 --> 0:04:50.159 be Mike Budenholzer. And there's so many things went wrong 0:04:50.680 --> 0:04:53.720 in Game five, and it's not just that I mean, again, 0:04:53.800 --> 0:04:59.960 this this team was championship or bust, and to own 0:05:00.080 --> 0:05:04.360 you win one game in the first round. Look, Mike 0:05:04.400 --> 0:05:07.640 Budenholzer was under huge pressure the year they won it all, 0:05:08.080 --> 0:05:11.880 and obviously winning the championship quieted that. But you know, now, 0:05:12.880 --> 0:05:17.320 you know, is this something, is this kind of exit 0:05:17.800 --> 0:05:21.240 something he can recover from? And when you talk to 0:05:21.240 --> 0:05:24.240 people around the league, you know there's a lot of 0:05:24.240 --> 0:05:28.480 skepticism that there's any way back for him at this point. 0:05:29.640 --> 0:05:31.440 Now he still has two years left on his deal, 0:05:31.640 --> 0:05:37.599 sixteen million. Those are substantial figures. But you know, Milwaukee 0:05:37.720 --> 0:05:42.200 doesn't have flexibility to change the roster. I mean, they're 0:05:42.240 --> 0:05:45.080 going to be you know, they've got Chris Middleton as 0:05:45.120 --> 0:05:48.599 a player option, Brook Lopez heading for free agency. With 0:05:48.720 --> 0:05:51.159 the new tax rules coming in, it's going to make 0:05:51.200 --> 0:05:55.720 team building very complicated. A coaching change might be the 0:05:55.760 --> 0:06:00.640 only really significant change that they can make. Everybody in 0:06:00.640 --> 0:06:03.560 the league's talking about this right now and wondering how 0:06:03.680 --> 0:06:06.680 drastic the changes are going to be. I mean, you 0:06:06.760 --> 0:06:11.080 obviously know Joannis quite well, and you had to, you know, 0:06:11.600 --> 0:06:13.640 pretty in depth interview him right at the end of 0:06:13.640 --> 0:06:17.280 the regular season. We all saw him in his postgame 0:06:17.320 --> 0:06:20.440 interview and you could already see how hard he's taking this. 0:06:20.520 --> 0:06:22.159 But I guess I really don't want to ask you 0:06:22.200 --> 0:06:23.800 to jump into his head, but I guess I am 0:06:23.880 --> 0:06:26.240 kind of asking to jump into his head. Like, what 0:06:26.320 --> 0:06:28.480 do you see for Milwaukee's immediate future? 0:06:29.440 --> 0:06:29.839 Man? 0:06:30.160 --> 0:06:34.159 Yeah, so obviously coach Blutenholzer is going to get a 0:06:34.160 --> 0:06:39.120 lot of scrutiny, and he has and you have to yeah, 0:06:39.200 --> 0:06:42.080 I mean, I definitely think his role is going to 0:06:42.120 --> 0:06:47.840 be evaluated. The only question I have when it comes 0:06:47.880 --> 0:06:54.080 to that is who else is out there? Where's the upgrade? 0:06:54.600 --> 0:06:57.720 So you can make the case that Nick Nurse is 0:06:57.760 --> 0:07:04.120 out there, Kenny Atkinson, well, Goden State Warriors, Like, is 0:07:04.160 --> 0:07:09.800 there another name out there that brings championship cachet, that 0:07:09.920 --> 0:07:15.880 brings instant credibility and someone who you can clearly say, yeah, 0:07:15.880 --> 0:07:19.920 that's an upgrade over Blotenholzer. Is that candidate out there? 0:07:22.400 --> 0:07:27.240 Then you look at does tylu become available? I don't 0:07:27.240 --> 0:07:29.880 think so. I know we'll touch on the Clippers a 0:07:29.880 --> 0:07:33.520 little bit later, but I just don't know if there's 0:07:33.600 --> 0:07:36.600 you know, it's it's like the Portland trail Blazers, for 0:07:36.680 --> 0:07:41.440 one use of Nrkis gets a lot of crap thrown 0:07:41.520 --> 0:07:45.440 his way on social media's and the airwaves, you know, 0:07:45.520 --> 0:07:49.800 talking about his inconsistencies and a no valid you know, 0:07:49.880 --> 0:07:53.160 some of the things are valid, but still nurk as 0:07:53.400 --> 0:07:56.640 Is is a top what he's a top eight center 0:07:56.640 --> 0:07:59.760 in the league. So you take him out, like, where's 0:07:59.760 --> 0:08:01.920 the up great and how can you get that upgrade? 0:08:01.960 --> 0:08:03.920 And so that's what I look at when I look 0:08:03.960 --> 0:08:07.800 at this situation with the Markey Bucks. Uh, it's tough, 0:08:07.840 --> 0:08:10.720 but definitely I think something has to be done. And 0:08:10.760 --> 0:08:13.520 oftentimes the coaches the first move to make. 0:08:14.880 --> 0:08:17.080 Yeah, look, if we're talking championship coaches at this point, 0:08:17.240 --> 0:08:20.800 Nick Nurse is the only one who's you know, available 0:08:20.840 --> 0:08:24.200 and has that championship pedigree that that obviously jumps out. 0:08:24.280 --> 0:08:27.240 But you know, by the same token, when you see 0:08:27.480 --> 0:08:32.160 that Toronto didn't get em Udoka and emy Udoka is 0:08:32.200 --> 0:08:36.000 going to Houston, and and so when you see the 0:08:36.040 --> 0:08:39.880 initial names of that Toronto is looking at, I mean 0:08:39.920 --> 0:08:42.600 they're they're pretty much all from the assistant ranks and 0:08:42.800 --> 0:08:47.120 it's the same thing that you know, Toronto felt like 0:08:47.160 --> 0:08:51.199 a new voice was needed after five years of Nick Nurse, 0:08:51.360 --> 0:08:54.079 and you know that will be the question in Milwaukee. 0:08:54.160 --> 0:08:57.760 Is it just a matter of not necessarily that you 0:08:57.800 --> 0:09:01.200 know there's a coach with five, but is it just 0:09:01.320 --> 0:09:04.800 maybe time for a different voice and a different approach, 0:09:04.840 --> 0:09:09.440 because look, the Bucks won the championship in twenty twenty one, 0:09:09.600 --> 0:09:13.280 first title for that franchise in fifty years, and not 0:09:13.400 --> 0:09:16.320 a soul can take that away. But when they've lost 0:09:16.360 --> 0:09:20.360 in the playoffs over these last five years, it's been rough. 0:09:20.520 --> 0:09:23.160 And this was the roughest of them all. I mean, 0:09:23.200 --> 0:09:28.719 the stat is astounding that in franchise history, with a 0:09:29.240 --> 0:09:32.320 double digit lead in the fourth quarter, in franchise history. 0:09:33.040 --> 0:09:35.520 The Bucks were seventy four and one in the playoffs 0:09:36.200 --> 0:09:40.959 and then they lose Game four in Game five, blowing 0:09:41.000 --> 0:09:45.680 a double digit lead in the fourth quarter, and Giannis 0:09:45.679 --> 0:09:48.760 played both those games. Now, maybe he's compromised them, hut 0:09:48.800 --> 0:09:52.240 because of the back, but Yiannis was out there for 0:09:52.320 --> 0:09:55.360 the last two and for them to lose in that fashion, 0:09:55.400 --> 0:09:57.679 I mean, this series is rough anyway you look at it. 0:09:58.800 --> 0:10:03.079 I know, Honest's phone is being ringing off the hook, 0:10:03.920 --> 0:10:07.920 whether that's calls or texts from players trying to see 0:10:08.240 --> 0:10:09.160 what you're gonna do. 0:10:10.120 --> 0:10:12.319 What you're gonna do what you're thinking. I know that 0:10:12.440 --> 0:10:15.080 for sure. Just I'll just say that. 0:10:15.720 --> 0:10:17.560 But does he even listen to that or you know, 0:10:17.559 --> 0:10:20.240 I I guess I was always under the impression that 0:10:20.280 --> 0:10:22.480 he tunes that stuff out. 0:10:22.760 --> 0:10:24.000 Tunes it out. 0:10:24.440 --> 0:10:27.440 Uh when you what do you mean listen? You mean 0:10:27.520 --> 0:10:29.679 listening like as he entertains it. 0:10:30.720 --> 0:10:33.319 Yeah, yeah, I don't. I don't. I don't think he's 0:10:33.360 --> 0:10:33.640 reached that. 0:10:33.800 --> 0:10:36.079 I don't think he's ever reached that point where he's 0:10:36.280 --> 0:10:37.760 entertained it, entertained it. 0:10:37.800 --> 0:10:41.120 But hey, and he look, he's got a decision. You know, 0:10:41.160 --> 0:10:44.840 he's eligible for an extension in September. Is that something 0:10:45.040 --> 0:10:49.600 he wants to pursue or with I think two guaranteed 0:10:49.679 --> 0:10:52.440 years on left on his deal, would he rather just 0:10:53.120 --> 0:10:56.000 you know, play it out and see where the franchise is. 0:10:56.000 --> 0:10:56.200 You know? 0:10:56.240 --> 0:10:59.040 So he he's got decisions to make. But yeah, I 0:10:59.080 --> 0:11:01.800 mean that organization, it's going to be a lot of 0:11:01.800 --> 0:11:05.720 difficult choices and nothing is super easy. And I think 0:11:05.720 --> 0:11:08.600 we can say the same for the clips. You know, 0:11:09.080 --> 0:11:12.480 we're recording this on a Thursday for release Friday. Lawrence 0:11:12.520 --> 0:11:16.560 Frank did his season ending media today in clipper Land 0:11:16.679 --> 0:11:20.600 and it's the same thing. You know, they have no 0:11:20.840 --> 0:11:25.160 easy way. They're so far into the tax already, and 0:11:25.240 --> 0:11:28.679 with the new CBA, you know, do the Clippers really 0:11:28.720 --> 0:11:32.320 have the option of trying to retool or do they 0:11:32.400 --> 0:11:37.520 just have to hope that they can finally keep Kawhi 0:11:37.600 --> 0:11:40.920 Leonard and Paul George on the court and get something 0:11:41.000 --> 0:11:44.480 closer to a full season from them. Are they going 0:11:44.559 --> 0:11:48.360 to be able to keep Eric Gordon and Mason Plumley? 0:11:48.679 --> 0:11:50.880 Are they gonna be able to re sign Russell Westbrook 0:11:50.960 --> 0:11:55.160 with the constraints that are coming in because the tax 0:11:55.240 --> 0:11:59.160 is going to be so much more punitive. You know, 0:11:59.200 --> 0:12:01.679 it's at you when you Lawrence Frank today, it sounds 0:12:01.679 --> 0:12:04.840 like he wants to bring everyone back. He said, they 0:12:05.200 --> 0:12:08.800 do want to re sign Russell Westbrook. He said he 0:12:08.880 --> 0:12:11.200 has no reason to believe that ty Lu wouldn't be 0:12:11.240 --> 0:12:14.679 back as coach. That they want to keep building around 0:12:14.800 --> 0:12:20.160 Kawhi Leonard and Paul George. But just like Giannis, Kawhi 0:12:20.240 --> 0:12:25.440 and PG, they're also both eligible for major extensions this summer. 0:12:25.480 --> 0:12:28.360 And if you're the Clippers, you know, do you commit 0:12:28.400 --> 0:12:32.719 to those based on the injury history that those guys have? 0:12:33.960 --> 0:12:36.240 And I think we talked about our last episode, like 0:12:36.920 --> 0:12:41.120 with that new arena into it, don that's going to 0:12:41.160 --> 0:12:44.680 be ready for the twenty twenty four twenty five season. 0:12:46.400 --> 0:12:49.800 I don't think you can do much that on that roster. 0:12:51.200 --> 0:12:56.080 That's going to jeopardize taking you out of contention to 0:12:56.200 --> 0:13:00.240 be a you know, to pursue a title. You know, 0:13:00.320 --> 0:13:03.280 let's say Kawhi and Paul George, both of those guys, like, 0:13:03.360 --> 0:13:05.320 I don't do they look at. 0:13:05.160 --> 0:13:07.720 Trying to move one of those guys. I don't know, Yeah, 0:13:07.720 --> 0:13:08.360 I mean they can. 0:13:09.320 --> 0:13:11.719 I have a hard time seeing it even if they 0:13:11.840 --> 0:13:13.880 really did look into. 0:13:14.000 --> 0:13:15.520 Yeah, I do too, because I think even if you 0:13:15.679 --> 0:13:18.320 even if you make them available and try to move them, 0:13:18.880 --> 0:13:21.280 what kind of value are you gonna get given the 0:13:21.320 --> 0:13:24.400 injuries that these guys have been piling up. I mean, 0:13:24.640 --> 0:13:27.640 they're obviously a force when they're out there together, but 0:13:28.480 --> 0:13:31.080 they played in less than forty games together this season. 0:13:31.400 --> 0:13:35.840 Tylu said, when Kawhi and Paul George plays in the 0:13:35.920 --> 0:13:40.319 series when they're healthy, they haven't lost. That speaks volumes 0:13:40.320 --> 0:13:45.079 on the tenure of those guys as Clippers. Thus far, 0:13:45.360 --> 0:13:49.319 they haven't lost, but yet they continue to lose. If 0:13:49.360 --> 0:13:50.000 that makes sense. 0:13:50.480 --> 0:13:53.320 And look, even in this series, I mean even with 0:13:53.559 --> 0:13:56.800 just Kawhi in the first two games, I mean they 0:13:56.840 --> 0:14:00.760 had the Sons very concerned. And you know, the last 0:14:00.840 --> 0:14:03.400 two three months of the season, we were all saying it, 0:14:03.480 --> 0:14:06.719 this looks like Kawhi at his Toronto best. There are 0:14:06.960 --> 0:14:10.400 so many teams in this in this league right now 0:14:10.400 --> 0:14:15.600 that are kind of at this just facing major, major, 0:14:15.760 --> 0:14:19.160 major decisions. I mean, Minnesota out now, what are they 0:14:19.160 --> 0:14:22.360 gonna do. Are they going to actually consider shopping Karl 0:14:22.360 --> 0:14:26.360 Anthony Towns because obviously Anthony Edwards is the build around 0:14:26.440 --> 0:14:28.600 piece now and I don't think they're gonna have much 0:14:28.720 --> 0:14:32.160 luck if they try to move Go Bear after the 0:14:32.240 --> 0:14:36.040 debut season he had in Minnesota. So what's Minnesota gonna do, 0:14:36.120 --> 0:14:41.160 What's Dallas gonna do, What's Portland gonna do? And that's 0:14:40.680 --> 0:14:44.240 that's just the West. You know, Golden State would fall 0:14:44.240 --> 0:14:46.760 into that category if they lost early. But now as 0:14:46.760 --> 0:14:49.560 we record this, the Warriors have seized the three to 0:14:49.560 --> 0:14:52.440 two lead and have a chance to finish the Kings 0:14:52.480 --> 0:14:56.440 off at home. You know, Washington in the East, Toronto 0:14:56.640 --> 0:15:01.720 in the East. Milwaukee. Now with question, I mean, it's 0:15:01.840 --> 0:15:04.400 at least a third of the league that that has, 0:15:05.160 --> 0:15:08.560 you know, that is looking at just major, major decisions 0:15:08.600 --> 0:15:09.760 here in the offseason. 0:15:09.960 --> 0:15:14.320 What did you think about the revelation Steyn of Kawhi 0:15:14.440 --> 0:15:16.600 Leonard torn meniscus. 0:15:16.960 --> 0:15:19.320 Yeah, you know that that whole thing was just crazy. 0:15:19.320 --> 0:15:21.400 I mean, it's just very you know, he went from 0:15:21.400 --> 0:15:24.240 playing the first two games to to suddenly he's out, 0:15:24.320 --> 0:15:26.680 and you know it was only announced as a knee 0:15:26.680 --> 0:15:29.200 sprain and then it comes out right after was it 0:15:29.280 --> 0:15:32.960 right after the series or late in the series? That's yeah, 0:15:32.960 --> 0:15:36.320 it's it's it's a torn meniscus, they say. I guess 0:15:36.320 --> 0:15:39.080 the early projections are you know, Lawrence Frank was pretty 0:15:39.120 --> 0:15:43.960 adamant that Kawhi is going to be recovered by the 0:15:44.000 --> 0:15:47.400 start of the season. But it's just how many times? 0:15:47.440 --> 0:15:49.800 How many times is something like this going to happen? 0:15:50.600 --> 0:15:54.320 Yeah, Kawhi as told to me, he's still trying to 0:15:54.320 --> 0:15:57.320 figure out his plan of attack and how he's going 0:15:57.320 --> 0:15:59.480 to handle this. It sergely going to be required. Is 0:15:59.480 --> 0:16:02.680 this something you can just rehab on his own? So 0:16:03.120 --> 0:16:04.880 he's in the process of trying to figure that out 0:16:04.960 --> 0:16:05.160 right now. 0:16:05.200 --> 0:16:07.080 All right, Well, let's spin it forward, because again, this 0:16:07.240 --> 0:16:12.960 is dropping on Friday morning. Tonight later tonight, huge Game 0:16:13.040 --> 0:16:13.760 six in LA. 0:16:15.400 --> 0:16:16.800 We have a special guest. 0:16:23.680 --> 0:16:27.720 Well, this is a rare treat arranged by mister Haynes 0:16:28.240 --> 0:16:31.840 this podcast. We're putting this out on the morning of 0:16:31.960 --> 0:16:37.080 Game six, a pivotal Game six, Grizzlies at Lakers, and 0:16:37.840 --> 0:16:42.520 to my great surprise, but a welcome surprise, Grizzlies Royalty 0:16:42.760 --> 0:16:45.320 is joining us. Now you know him as ze Bo. 0:16:45.720 --> 0:16:49.720 Zach Randolph is here making his debut on the This 0:16:49.800 --> 0:16:53.520 League Uncut podcast. Mister Randolph, how are you, sir? 0:16:53.720 --> 0:16:56.920 I'm good, Mark? How you doing, Chris? How you doing? Man? 0:16:56.960 --> 0:16:57.720 Glad to be here? 0:16:58.000 --> 0:17:00.720 All right, man, it's all love, bro love. We've been 0:17:00.720 --> 0:17:02.680 wanting to do this for a four minutes, so glad 0:17:02.720 --> 0:17:03.400 we got to it. 0:17:03.480 --> 0:17:05.720 Well, let's just get right to it. Desmond Bain says, 0:17:05.760 --> 0:17:07.800 your Grizzlies are going to win this Game six and 0:17:07.840 --> 0:17:10.399 force it to a game seven. What do you see 0:17:10.960 --> 0:17:12.640 in the Zach Randolph crystal ball? 0:17:13.240 --> 0:17:16.080 I agree with Desmond. I think they got their momentum going. 0:17:16.400 --> 0:17:18.720 You know, you got that win. You got these guys 0:17:18.760 --> 0:17:21.960 coming in playing confident and believe they can win. And 0:17:22.040 --> 0:17:23.760 once you got that in you you could believe you 0:17:23.760 --> 0:17:26.880 can win. You go into their home and you shock everybody, 0:17:26.920 --> 0:17:27.600 and that's how they go. 0:17:28.040 --> 0:17:28.720 Zach, you can't. 0:17:28.760 --> 0:17:31.119 You came up in the era man where well you 0:17:31.160 --> 0:17:33.040 didn't do too much talking. You had to talk when 0:17:33.119 --> 0:17:36.240 when it was necessary. But people knew not to not 0:17:36.320 --> 0:17:37.919 to you know, not to take it there. If they 0:17:37.920 --> 0:17:39.879 wanted to take it there, they knew there'd be some smoke. 0:17:40.400 --> 0:17:44.720 So but nowadays you got you got the Memphis Grizzlies, 0:17:44.720 --> 0:17:46.359 who you know, they've been bringing it. 0:17:46.440 --> 0:17:48.720 They've been bringing it with their with their mouths, and 0:17:48.920 --> 0:17:49.720 they bring it. 0:17:49.760 --> 0:17:51.800 They brought it with their game to a certain point, 0:17:51.840 --> 0:17:55.199 but it hasn't gotten to that level. So when you 0:17:55.240 --> 0:17:58.400 hear all the criticism about the Memphis Grizzlies and they're 0:17:58.400 --> 0:18:01.520 doing too much talking, they haven't accomplish anything enough to 0:18:01.560 --> 0:18:05.399 be dancing, talking, parading around like their Muhammad Ali or 0:18:05.400 --> 0:18:05.960 something like that. 0:18:05.960 --> 0:18:09.160 With with the with the chatter, what do you see? 0:18:09.280 --> 0:18:11.080 I know you're close to it, but what do you see? 0:18:11.200 --> 0:18:15.200 How do you assess how the Memphis Grizzlies conduct themselves. 0:18:15.480 --> 0:18:18.200 I think they conduct theirself like any other young NBA 0:18:18.320 --> 0:18:21.600 team that's in the you know, just playing all these 0:18:21.600 --> 0:18:24.240 guys are young. To me, they all do it, you know, 0:18:24.320 --> 0:18:26.679 not the Grizzlies, you know, the Rockets, you know, all 0:18:26.680 --> 0:18:28.960 these young guys. That's what they do now. It's the generation. 0:18:29.440 --> 0:18:31.680 And I think I like it. You know what I'm saying. 0:18:31.720 --> 0:18:34.560 I like trash talking. I like them going back and 0:18:34.600 --> 0:18:36.639 forth it. You know what I'm saying. It's part of 0:18:36.640 --> 0:18:38.480 the game. Make the game better, make the game fund 0:18:38.480 --> 0:18:40.320 as long as you keep the game fun and clean. 0:18:40.400 --> 0:18:42.840 But you know, I think they just like any other 0:18:42.920 --> 0:18:44.800 young team in the league that do do the same 0:18:44.840 --> 0:18:45.520 amount talking. 0:18:45.600 --> 0:18:49.560 You know, you're playing days, who was the best trash 0:18:49.600 --> 0:18:50.600 talker or who was. 0:18:50.600 --> 0:18:55.200 Someone that you felt like, Man, you're doing all this 0:18:55.320 --> 0:18:57.120 trash talking, but you ain't did nothing yet? 0:18:57.640 --> 0:19:00.159 Was that what comes to mind when I say that? Man, 0:19:00.160 --> 0:19:00.840 that's a good question. 0:19:00.920 --> 0:19:03.360 See, Like you know, I know KG used to talk 0:19:03.400 --> 0:19:05.360 a lot, but you know KG back it up though 0:19:05.440 --> 0:19:07.440 for sure, for sure, So you know he ain't want 0:19:07.440 --> 0:19:10.520 of them guys. But you know, you know, like our 0:19:10.560 --> 0:19:13.159 area a little different, man, we ain't really you know, 0:19:13.240 --> 0:19:14.960 guys didn't really do that too much, you know what 0:19:14.960 --> 0:19:17.920 I mean, Like I didn't. I never had to argue 0:19:17.960 --> 0:19:20.119 with no guy or you know, you know, me and 0:19:20.160 --> 0:19:22.720 Reggie Evans, we used to get into it, but you 0:19:22.760 --> 0:19:23.920 know we wouldn't. 0:19:24.119 --> 0:19:25.600 You know, we was for real, you know, he was 0:19:25.640 --> 0:19:26.640 gonna fight. I was gonna fight. 0:19:26.680 --> 0:19:28.800 So it was like, you know, we talking each other 0:19:28.840 --> 0:19:30.520 on the load, like you know it's gonna go down. 0:19:30.600 --> 0:19:32.239 But like it's just different now. I think a lot 0:19:32.280 --> 0:19:34.639 of guys just you know, they ain't fight. But I 0:19:34.760 --> 0:19:36.000 like it, you know, I like it. You know, I 0:19:36.080 --> 0:19:38.440 like word set, like how they go at each other 0:19:38.520 --> 0:19:40.320 now and you know they let it go a little bit. 0:19:40.400 --> 0:19:44.240 So I like that that part of the game. Word set. 0:19:44.400 --> 0:19:44.840 But I ain't. 0:19:44.880 --> 0:19:47.760 Ain't too many guys back then, really, you know, they 0:19:47.800 --> 0:19:50.080 talk talk stuff. You know, you like KG he talk 0:19:50.119 --> 0:19:51.439 a lot of crap, you know what I'm saying, But 0:19:51.480 --> 0:19:52.280 he bagged it up. 0:19:52.240 --> 0:19:56.080 You know, you because got into a little bit. Yeah, 0:19:56.119 --> 0:19:56.959 that went viral. 0:20:04.080 --> 0:20:09.120 Your team was so loved in Memphis. I mean John Hollinger, 0:20:09.200 --> 0:20:11.680 who used to work in the front office there, would 0:20:11.840 --> 0:20:13.560 I remember I you know, I stole this from him. 0:20:13.600 --> 0:20:18.040 He would call it Mount Grismore and you Marc Gasol, 0:20:18.320 --> 0:20:22.240 Mike Conley, Tony Allen, like the four faces of that era. 0:20:22.880 --> 0:20:26.399 I know you still love this franchise obviously, but you 0:20:26.440 --> 0:20:28.440 know they there is a lot of criticism that they 0:20:28.560 --> 0:20:32.000 need veteran guidance. Like, you know, if we could drop 0:20:32.040 --> 0:20:34.880 you in that locker room and like as the Eudonis Haslam, 0:20:34.920 --> 0:20:37.639 what would you be telling Jah or Dylan Brooks in 0:20:37.760 --> 0:20:41.480 general about the noise about the playoffs? Like what if 0:20:41.480 --> 0:20:43.439 you were in that role? How would you handle it? 0:20:43.800 --> 0:20:44.000 Man? 0:20:44.040 --> 0:20:46.600 I just tell me, young guys, you know, it's a 0:20:46.600 --> 0:20:49.480 different game. You know, let's be prepared, like you know 0:20:49.520 --> 0:20:51.720 they are prepared. It's gonna be ups and downs, and 0:20:52.200 --> 0:20:54.040 you know, everybody know our. 0:20:54.080 --> 0:20:55.520 X and os. They know our X and o's, we 0:20:55.560 --> 0:20:56.240 know the xnos. 0:20:56.280 --> 0:20:58.560 So it's gonna be about just so just you know, 0:20:58.680 --> 0:21:00.760 keeping them in the track because like you said, Mark 0:21:00.800 --> 0:21:03.080 every I think all these teams need a veteran guy 0:21:03.080 --> 0:21:04.760 on our team, you know what I mean, to keep it. 0:21:05.119 --> 0:21:06.680 You know, let these young guys know, you know what 0:21:06.720 --> 0:21:08.640 I mean, because they've been through the been through the ropes. 0:21:08.680 --> 0:21:10.199 We've been through the ropes, so we can help them 0:21:10.240 --> 0:21:12.240 and tell them, you know, hey, man, let's go just 0:21:12.280 --> 0:21:14.879 get ready or this, you know, try not to do 0:21:14.920 --> 0:21:17.199 this or even off the court stuff. So you know, 0:21:17.320 --> 0:21:19.800