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Speaker 1: Welcome to this League Uncut in the world.

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Speaker 2: Of twenty four hour NBA news.

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Speaker 3: This's you, Lo, Chris Haynes.

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Speaker 1: It's so time, Purt Stein, It's so time.

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Speaker 3: This League Uncut is underway and on fire. This should

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Speaker 2: Hey everyone, thanks for joining us on another edition of

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Speaker 2: This League Uncut. We are taping this on Thursday night,

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Speaker 2: only one game tonight. Everybody out there focused on the

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Speaker 2: NFL Draft, Not Stein, not Haynes. We're here talking hoops,

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Speaker 2: also decompressing after an absolutely crazy Wednesday. Chris, I know

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Speaker 2: you were on the sidelines for Warriors Kings, which, as

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Speaker 2: amazing as that was. We can barely get to because

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Speaker 2: later in the show we're gonna be joined by Grizzlies

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Speaker 2: legend Zach Randolph. He help us preview tonight's and I

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Speaker 2: say tonight's because of course this will be dropping Friday,

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Speaker 2: so z Bowl help us preview Game six of grizz Lakers.

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Speaker 2: See if the Grizzlies can make good on Desmond Bain's

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Speaker 2: prediction that this thing is going seven. Blakers better finish

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Speaker 2: it off. I would not want to be going to

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Speaker 2: Memphis for a Game seven if I'm them, But again,

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Speaker 2: not much bandwidth in space to talk about Lakers, Gris

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Speaker 2: or even Warriors Kings, or even the Knicks advancing and

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Speaker 2: the Calves being eliminated. We will get to all that eventually,

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Speaker 2: but we got we got to start with with the

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Speaker 2: Bucks losing that game five. I'm still trying to digest it.

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Speaker 2: I've been trying to write all day, putting this in

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Speaker 2: perspective with the printed word, because yes, we've seen number

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Speaker 2: eight beat number ones before, but not like this, not

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Speaker 2: you know, obviously jannas Attakumpo not being able to Basically

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Speaker 2: That's certainly a factor, and probably a factor people aren't

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Speaker 2: discussing enough. But to lose that game five at home,

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Speaker 2: I mean, at the very least, after Jimmy Butler rumbles

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Speaker 2: for fifty six, at the very least, you think Milwaukee's

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Speaker 2: gonna win at home and take this thing back to Miami,

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Speaker 2: and instead it was just I mean, it was just

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Speaker 2: a flat out I mean, choke job is polite. I mean,

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Speaker 2: they had a sixteen point lead going to the fourth quarter,

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Speaker 2: and just throughout the fourth quarter in overtime, they looked

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Speaker 2: like a team that had never been there, and this

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Speaker 2: is a team that won it all two years ago.

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Speaker 2: I don't I mean, ch I don't know how you

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Speaker 2: could have monitored it because your game was going on

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Speaker 2: at the same time. I mean, that was the air.

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Speaker 2: Thing was just crazy last night trying to keep track

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Speaker 2: came away from Warriors Kings, which was plenty heated and

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Speaker 2: saw what happened to the Bucks?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I couldn't. I couldn't keep up because, yeah, I

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Speaker 4: was doing that game. But the last thing I saw,

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Speaker 4: you know, Lakers Memphis. I saw the Lakers were close

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Speaker 4: Bucks had a good lead on the Miami Heat. That

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Speaker 4: little bit of the Cleveland and New York series, which

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Speaker 3: So I wasn't.

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Speaker 4: Surprised with that, but I was surprised with the Lakers,

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Speaker 4: and I was surprised with the more the Roucke Bucks

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Speaker 3: That, and that is brutal. You know.

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Speaker 4: I covered the Miami Heats that that play the play

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Speaker 3: You get in, and.

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Speaker 4: You get in because no the Bulls, because no, excuse me,

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Speaker 4: Miami Heat. They lost their first player, remember that, who

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Speaker 2: Yeah, they lost to Atlanta. They had to come from

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Speaker 4: Game I didn't see. I didn't see this at all.

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Speaker 4: So I'm like, okay, well, you did all that work

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Speaker 4: who could have imagine that. I surely didn't. And that

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, look, the first focus is going to

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Speaker 2: Budenholzer was under huge pressure the year they won it all,

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Speaker 2: Now he still has two years left on his deal,

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Speaker 2: sixteen million. Those are substantial figures. But you know, Milwaukee

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Speaker 2: the league's talking about this right now and wondering how

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Speaker 2: But I guess I really don't want to ask you

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Speaker 2: kind of asking to jump into his head. Like, what

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Speaker 4: Yeah, so obviously coach Blutenholzer is going to get a

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Speaker 4: So you can make the case that Nick Nurse is

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Speaker 4: Then you look at does tylu become available? I don't

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Speaker 4: And so that's what I look at when I look

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Speaker 4: but definitely I think something has to be done. And

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Speaker 4: oftentimes the coaches the first move to make.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, look, if we're talking championship coaches at this point,

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Speaker 2: Nick Nurse is the only one who's you know, available

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Speaker 2: and has that championship pedigree that that obviously jumps out.

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Speaker 2: But you know, by the same token, when you see

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Speaker 2: a new voice was needed after five years of Nick Nurse,

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Speaker 2: and you know that will be the question in Milwaukee.

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Speaker 2: Is it just a matter of not necessarily that you

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Speaker 2: because look, the Bucks won the championship in twenty twenty one,

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Speaker 2: in the playoffs over these last five years, it's been rough.

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Speaker 2: And this was the roughest of them all. I mean,

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Speaker 2: The Bucks were seventy four and one in the playoffs

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Speaker 2: and then they lose Game four in Game five, blowing

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Speaker 2: I mean, this series is rough anyway you look at it.

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Speaker 3: What you're gonna do what you're thinking. I know that

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Speaker 2: But does he even listen to that or you know,

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Speaker 2: he tunes that stuff out.

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Speaker 4: I don't think he's ever reached that point where he's

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Speaker 4: entertained it, entertained it.

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Speaker 2: But hey, and he look, he's got a decision. You know,

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Speaker 2: he's eligible for an extension in September. Is that something

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Speaker 3: You know?

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Speaker 2: So he he's got decisions to make. But yeah, I

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Speaker 2: difficult choices and nothing is super easy. And I think

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Speaker 2: we can say the same for the clips. You know,

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Speaker 2: we're recording this on a Thursday for release Friday. Lawrence

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Speaker 2: Frank did his season ending media today in clipper Land

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Speaker 2: and it's the same thing. You know, they have no

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Speaker 2: easy way. They're so far into the tax already, and

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Speaker 2: with the new CBA, you know, do the Clippers really

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Speaker 2: just have to hope that they can finally keep Kawhi

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Speaker 2: Are they gonna be able to re sign Russell Westbrook

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Speaker 2: with the constraints that are coming in because the tax

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Speaker 2: it's at you when you Lawrence Frank today, it sounds

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Speaker 2: like he wants to bring everyone back. He said, they

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Speaker 2: do want to re sign Russell Westbrook. He said he

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Speaker 2: back as coach. That they want to keep building around

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Speaker 2: Kawhi Leonard and Paul George. But just like Giannis, Kawhi

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Speaker 2: and PG, they're also both eligible for major extensions this summer.

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Speaker 2: And if you're the Clippers, you know, do you commit

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Speaker 2: Well, this is a rare treat arranged by mister Haynes

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Speaker 2: this podcast. We're putting this out on the morning of

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Speaker 2: Game six, a pivotal Game six, Grizzlies at Lakers, and

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Speaker 2: to my great surprise, but a welcome surprise, Grizzlies Royalty

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Speaker 2: Zach Randolph is here making his debut on the This

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Speaker 2: League Uncut podcast. Mister Randolph, how are you, sir?

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Speaker 3: I'm good, Mark? How you doing, Chris? How you doing? Man?

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Speaker 3: Glad to be here?

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Speaker 4: All right, man, it's all love, bro love. We've been

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Speaker 2: Well, let's just get right to it. Desmond Bain says,

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Speaker 1: I agree with Desmond. I think they got their momentum going.

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Speaker 3: Zach, you can't.

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Speaker 4: You came up in the era man where well you

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Speaker 4: So but nowadays you got you got the Memphis Grizzlies,

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Speaker 3: They've been bringing it with their with their mouths, and

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Speaker 1: I think they conduct theirself like any other young NBA

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Speaker 3: You know, you're playing days, who was the best trash

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Speaker 4: Someone that you felt like, Man, you're doing all this

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Speaker 1: See, Like you know, I know KG used to talk

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Speaker 1: The young guys are good, great man, great young guys

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Speaker 3: Young guys are.

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Speaker 1: You know, I talk the job all them guys, exaviers,

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Speaker 4: Zach I gotta touch on this because people don't know.

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Speaker 4: City of Memphis ain't no joke, you know what I mean.

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Speaker 4: It's shit going on every day in Memphis. Man, if

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Speaker 4: it can it can be costly. The city of Memphis

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Speaker 1: you know, like it's it's it's not you know Myphis

436
00:22:56,119 --> 00:22:57,639
Speaker 1: got a bad name or like you said, it's just

437
00:22:58,040 --> 00:23:00,479
Speaker 1: but you know, it's any city. And he's certain parts,

438
00:23:00,760 --> 00:23:02,359
Speaker 1: you know, like any other city you be in the

439
00:23:02,359 --> 00:23:05,040
Speaker 1: certain parts you be in. But like you said, with that,

440
00:23:05,119 --> 00:23:08,720
Speaker 1: they you know, they are with the team, you know

441
00:23:08,760 --> 00:23:11,080
Speaker 1: what I mean. And you got to like you said,

442
00:23:11,480 --> 00:23:14,560
Speaker 1: have you know, find it, you know, the good parts

443
00:23:14,600 --> 00:23:17,600
Speaker 1: and still be able to get back to the community

444
00:23:17,680 --> 00:23:18,040
Speaker 1: like I did.

445
00:23:18,080 --> 00:23:19,440
Speaker 3: I gave back to the neighborhood.

446
00:23:19,520 --> 00:23:22,159
Speaker 1: But you know I still they respected me because I

447
00:23:22,200 --> 00:23:24,360
Speaker 1: respected them, and you know, I didn't try to act

448
00:23:24,400 --> 00:23:26,600
Speaker 1: as a certain way. I just you know, I come

449
00:23:26,640 --> 00:23:28,679
Speaker 1: in there, I feed the hood, and you know, I

450
00:23:28,800 --> 00:23:31,399
Speaker 1: go back and they come support the games. And you know,

451
00:23:31,440 --> 00:23:33,320
Speaker 1: that's how it's supposed to be. I don't think you know,

452
00:23:33,960 --> 00:23:37,199
Speaker 1: no type of you know what level you on. The

453
00:23:37,200 --> 00:23:39,679
Speaker 1: whole city is supposed to community to keep to come

454
00:23:39,720 --> 00:23:42,320
Speaker 1: together with every NBA team and every city from poor

455
00:23:42,359 --> 00:23:45,040
Speaker 1: people to the rich people to the to the end between,

456
00:23:45,080 --> 00:23:46,200
Speaker 1: and bring everybody together.

457
00:23:46,359 --> 00:23:47,760
Speaker 3: And that's how I feel. You know, that's how the

458
00:23:47,760 --> 00:23:50,280
Speaker 3: city of Memphis is. You know, yeah, they right, they

459
00:23:50,359 --> 00:23:51,600
Speaker 3: ride and die with y'all for show.

460
00:23:51,960 --> 00:23:54,960
Speaker 4: It's just you know, I think a lot of player

461
00:23:55,080 --> 00:23:58,560
Speaker 4: and to your point, it ain't it's not Memphis. There's

462
00:23:58,240 --> 00:24:01,320
Speaker 4: it's it's cities all around. But I think Memphis because

463
00:24:01,280 --> 00:24:04,280
Speaker 4: it's so small, and you know, a lot of times

464
00:24:04,440 --> 00:24:08,400
Speaker 4: you guys, especially you know the grind City days, they

465
00:24:08,440 --> 00:24:11,880
Speaker 4: resonate with you guys, and so there's there's a connection,

466
00:24:12,040 --> 00:24:12,360
Speaker 4: and so.

467
00:24:12,760 --> 00:24:14,879
Speaker 3: You know, I think it's easy for a lot of

468
00:24:15,720 --> 00:24:17,320
Speaker 3: few people. It's usually easy for.

469
00:24:17,320 --> 00:24:20,600
Speaker 4: Some players to kind of go down that path and

470
00:24:20,720 --> 00:24:25,600
Speaker 4: start trying to associate themselves with the wrong people. You know,

471
00:24:26,160 --> 00:24:28,560
Speaker 4: have you ever had you ain't got to mention names.

472
00:24:28,560 --> 00:24:30,560
Speaker 4: But have you ever had to I don't know if

473
00:24:30,600 --> 00:24:32,159
Speaker 4: that was something personally you had to deal with or

474
00:24:32,320 --> 00:24:35,520
Speaker 4: if you ever had to advise other guys on how

475
00:24:35,560 --> 00:24:38,680
Speaker 4: to navigate. Look, we hoopers, you know what I'm saying.

476
00:24:38,760 --> 00:24:41,080
Speaker 4: Let's keep that first and foremost. Let's leave the streets

477
00:24:41,080 --> 00:24:43,520
Speaker 4: ship to the to the streets. How how have you

478
00:24:43,640 --> 00:24:46,000
Speaker 4: had to handle that all the time. I tell these

479
00:24:46,000 --> 00:24:48,080
Speaker 4: young guys all the time. You know, still like you said,

480
00:24:48,160 --> 00:24:50,320
Speaker 4: leave it, lead that street ship to the street ship

481
00:24:50,680 --> 00:24:53,119
Speaker 4: and knowing that because when you come like I come

482
00:24:53,160 --> 00:24:55,520
Speaker 4: from that, I come from the poor neighborhood that I

483
00:24:55,560 --> 00:24:56,600
Speaker 4: come from, mother and.

484
00:24:56,640 --> 00:25:00,840
Speaker 1: Welfare, single parent, shoot Kimsen and that's nothing. But so

485
00:25:01,080 --> 00:25:03,440
Speaker 1: you stay away from that. And if you guys gonna

486
00:25:03,440 --> 00:25:05,959
Speaker 1: respect you and that you know, they gonna respect you

487
00:25:05,960 --> 00:25:09,080
Speaker 1: for being yourself, you know, And if you be yourself,

488
00:25:09,280 --> 00:25:11,040
Speaker 1: that's what you're gonna get respect. Don't try to be

489
00:25:11,640 --> 00:25:13,560
Speaker 1: some that you're not. And I never tried to be there.

490
00:25:13,560 --> 00:25:15,480
Speaker 1: And that's what I tell the young guys, you know,

491
00:25:15,680 --> 00:25:17,920
Speaker 1: you know, man, keep the first thing I tell them,

492
00:25:17,920 --> 00:25:20,480
Speaker 1: stay out of trouble, keep your nose clean, Gonna get

493
00:25:20,480 --> 00:25:23,000
Speaker 1: your name and nothing because that's gonna mess your money up.

494
00:25:23,280 --> 00:25:24,960
Speaker 1: So you want to keep your nose clean, and you

495
00:25:24,960 --> 00:25:26,760
Speaker 1: don't want to you want to stay out the clubs

496
00:25:26,800 --> 00:25:29,199
Speaker 1: because all that shit I've been through Christ So I

497
00:25:29,240 --> 00:25:31,199
Speaker 1: can tell you, I can tell oft the junior.

498
00:25:31,240 --> 00:25:33,040
Speaker 3: I can tell them guys. You know what I'm saying.

499
00:25:33,640 --> 00:25:34,800
Speaker 3: You know what I've been through.

500
00:25:34,880 --> 00:25:37,600
Speaker 2: Right, And they don't want to hear it from outsiders. No,

501
00:25:37,840 --> 00:25:39,959
Speaker 2: But I'm guessing when it comes from you, it's different.

502
00:25:40,240 --> 00:25:42,119
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's different when you know it's come from guys,

503
00:25:42,200 --> 00:25:44,119
Speaker 3: guys that they respect, and you know they respect me,

504
00:25:44,200 --> 00:25:46,640
Speaker 3: so you know, and I just tell you know, I'm

505
00:25:46,640 --> 00:25:49,160
Speaker 3: gonna keep it one hundred with the mark, and that's

506
00:25:49,160 --> 00:25:49,520
Speaker 3: what I do.

507
00:25:50,840 --> 00:25:52,720
Speaker 2: When you first went there, how long did it take

508
00:25:52,760 --> 00:25:54,439
Speaker 2: you to feel? I mean, like, now, you know we

509
00:25:54,560 --> 00:25:57,800
Speaker 2: associate you with Memphis, But how long did that take where?

510
00:25:58,200 --> 00:25:58,439
Speaker 2: You know?

511
00:25:58,840 --> 00:26:00,800
Speaker 3: Man? You know, it's so crazy. People don't know. My

512
00:26:00,840 --> 00:26:02,959
Speaker 3: father's from Memphis. I met him when I was thirty two.

513
00:26:03,040 --> 00:26:05,159
Speaker 1: But you know, when I came into the league, me

514
00:26:05,200 --> 00:26:08,200
Speaker 1: and Quintel, which Quintel came to the League my second year.

515
00:26:08,240 --> 00:26:11,720
Speaker 1: He's from South Memphis, so me and him we connected asap.

516
00:26:11,840 --> 00:26:13,119
Speaker 3: That was my best friend.

517
00:26:13,160 --> 00:26:16,080
Speaker 1: So every summer, like I was in Memphis, he was

518
00:26:16,080 --> 00:26:17,720
Speaker 1: in Indiana and we were together, you know, a summer

519
00:26:17,800 --> 00:26:21,439
Speaker 1: league after that. So like I already been before I

520
00:26:21,480 --> 00:26:24,200
Speaker 1: got trade to Memphis, already got an eight.

521
00:26:24,119 --> 00:26:27,000
Speaker 3: Nine year history in with Memphis. So it was all love.

522
00:26:27,040 --> 00:26:29,399
Speaker 1: When I was coming here, I was like, wow, you know,

523
00:26:29,440 --> 00:26:31,280
Speaker 1: I already got family here, my daddy from here.

524
00:26:31,280 --> 00:26:35,160
Speaker 3: It was like, you know, it's what God wanted, ze Bo.

525
00:26:35,240 --> 00:26:38,560
Speaker 4: When you think about the era of social media, and

526
00:26:39,200 --> 00:26:42,600
Speaker 4: again we talk about, you know, you being so valuable

527
00:26:42,640 --> 00:26:45,320
Speaker 4: not just to the Memphis Grizzly organization but just people

528
00:26:45,320 --> 00:26:48,639
Speaker 4: in general because you've had your We all have our past.

529
00:26:48,720 --> 00:26:50,800
Speaker 4: We all have our past, we struggled. I mean, you

530
00:26:50,840 --> 00:26:55,320
Speaker 4: guys are growing up with millions of dollars at a

531
00:26:55,359 --> 00:26:58,080
Speaker 4: young age. You're growing up with that. So everything that

532
00:26:58,160 --> 00:27:01,199
Speaker 4: you're learning, everything you're going through, you're going through in

533
00:27:01,240 --> 00:27:05,360
Speaker 4: the public eye, right and so but I don't think

534
00:27:05,440 --> 00:27:07,760
Speaker 4: you didn't have social media earlier.

535
00:27:07,520 --> 00:27:16,560
Speaker 3: On Thank God Ship God Ship see.

536
00:27:16,480 --> 00:27:22,760
Speaker 4: Man can case like when you look at the social

537
00:27:22,760 --> 00:27:26,160
Speaker 4: media landscape now and how everything is just plastic plastered

538
00:27:26,160 --> 00:27:28,520
Speaker 4: out there, like what what what.

539
00:27:30,119 --> 00:27:30,920
Speaker 3: I would imagine?

540
00:27:30,960 --> 00:27:33,680
Speaker 4: That's uh you can kind of feel for the athletes

541
00:27:33,680 --> 00:27:35,960
Speaker 4: and the players in that regard, you know, having to

542
00:27:36,000 --> 00:27:38,400
Speaker 4: grow up in front of us and have social media

543
00:27:38,440 --> 00:27:41,040
Speaker 4: right there to kind of just plaster everything out there.

544
00:27:41,440 --> 00:27:41,639
Speaker 3: You know.

545
00:27:41,720 --> 00:27:44,639
Speaker 1: It's so funny. Me and my homeboy, my cousin was

546
00:27:44,680 --> 00:27:46,320
Speaker 1: talking about the the other day. Boy, if it was

547
00:27:46,359 --> 00:27:48,760
Speaker 1: social media back then, man, you know, you don't know

548
00:27:48,800 --> 00:27:52,720
Speaker 1: where you beat today, because man, you know, like you said,

549
00:27:52,880 --> 00:27:54,960
Speaker 1: we all guys young, we all been through it, like

550
00:27:54,960 --> 00:27:57,320
Speaker 1: you said, coming in millions of dollars young at the

551
00:27:57,400 --> 00:28:00,280
Speaker 1: young age, you know, come from poverty, not knowing money,

552
00:28:00,440 --> 00:28:03,679
Speaker 1: no money, literacy or none of that. So just you know,

553
00:28:03,800 --> 00:28:06,080
Speaker 1: coming in like that, man, a lot of guys could

554
00:28:06,080 --> 00:28:08,120
Speaker 1: have been in some ship. Man that social media would

555
00:28:08,160 --> 00:28:10,560
Speaker 1: have been you know, been back around gluing myself because

556
00:28:10,680 --> 00:28:15,159
Speaker 1: you know, everything you do now you got it.

557
00:28:15,280 --> 00:28:16,680
Speaker 3: You gotta live like you you.

558
00:28:16,640 --> 00:28:19,879
Speaker 1: Know, you always got a camera on you and it

559
00:28:19,880 --> 00:28:21,720
Speaker 1: ain't just a camera, but it's a camera to the

560
00:28:21,720 --> 00:28:22,520
Speaker 1: whole wide world.

561
00:28:22,520 --> 00:28:23,840
Speaker 3: And that's the difference, you know what I mean.

562
00:28:23,880 --> 00:28:27,240
Speaker 1: You all you gotta lens everybody you know on Snapchat,

563
00:28:27,400 --> 00:28:29,639
Speaker 1: on Facebook or live.

564
00:28:30,200 --> 00:28:32,440
Speaker 3: You know, it's so it's always the internet.

565
00:28:33,240 --> 00:28:36,239
Speaker 4: Yeah, It's one thing like even if even if one

566
00:28:36,280 --> 00:28:40,520
Speaker 4: of your incidents you know, is in the press, is

567
00:28:40,560 --> 00:28:46,840
Speaker 4: in print, it's in print, it's a whole. It taken

568
00:28:46,880 --> 00:28:50,440
Speaker 4: to a whole other level with it's on video and

569
00:28:50,480 --> 00:28:52,200
Speaker 4: then seeing you right, it's a whole.

570
00:28:52,240 --> 00:28:54,760
Speaker 1: It's a difference, right, or even when you're talking on

571
00:28:54,800 --> 00:28:56,960
Speaker 1: the radio about it or on the TV, it's the

572
00:28:57,040 --> 00:28:58,440
Speaker 1: difference that you got that video.

573
00:28:58,560 --> 00:29:05,200
Speaker 2: You're like, oh, Man, what's it like for you to

574
00:29:05,240 --> 00:29:08,080
Speaker 2: go to games now? As a fan? I love go

575
00:29:08,080 --> 00:29:10,280
Speaker 2: to it to go watch the Grizzlies. What is that

576
00:29:10,480 --> 00:29:10,840
Speaker 2: like for you?

577
00:29:11,360 --> 00:29:11,520
Speaker 3: Man?

578
00:29:11,520 --> 00:29:13,120
Speaker 1: I love it, Mark, I love it. I love them

579
00:29:13,160 --> 00:29:15,520
Speaker 1: guys men out there, the fans, the city. It's still

580
00:29:15,560 --> 00:29:17,360
Speaker 1: like it's still like I'm playing. You know, when I

581
00:29:17,400 --> 00:29:20,440
Speaker 1: go to Memphis, I still get to love man, and

582
00:29:20,480 --> 00:29:22,960
Speaker 1: that's my city and that's home for me. Always going

583
00:29:23,040 --> 00:29:25,280
Speaker 1: to have a special heart, special place in my heart

584
00:29:25,320 --> 00:29:28,600
Speaker 1: for Memphis. But just going there, man, making me feel great,

585
00:29:28,640 --> 00:29:32,040
Speaker 1: seeing what we a foundation we laid down. You know

586
00:29:32,280 --> 00:29:34,920
Speaker 1: they GrITT and grind. I'm young guys taking that and

587
00:29:35,080 --> 00:29:37,760
Speaker 1: still out there grinding it. You know that's how we was.

588
00:29:37,800 --> 00:29:39,719
Speaker 1: You know, we were out there we're grinding we were

589
00:29:39,760 --> 00:29:43,080
Speaker 1: tough and that's the identity they taken and man feels

590
00:29:43,120 --> 00:29:46,160
Speaker 1: good to see that and that the fans still you know, no.

591
00:29:46,240 --> 00:29:48,400
Speaker 3: No to grint and grind. No, you know what we

592
00:29:48,440 --> 00:29:50,760
Speaker 3: went through in and to where we're at now.

593
00:29:51,440 --> 00:29:53,520
Speaker 2: Do you see this team as an extension of that

594
00:29:53,720 --> 00:29:57,120
Speaker 2: or should we describe them with different terms than GrITT

595
00:29:57,120 --> 00:29:57,560
Speaker 2: and grind?

596
00:29:57,840 --> 00:30:00,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, we gotta describe them a little bit, Mark. I mean,

597
00:30:01,720 --> 00:30:04,560
Speaker 1: you know, Jay is is different, man, you know what

598
00:30:04,560 --> 00:30:07,880
Speaker 1: I mean? Just with him and you know jaaring down there.

599
00:30:08,240 --> 00:30:11,680
Speaker 1: You know, I don't know they they're they're I don't know,

600
00:30:11,760 --> 00:30:14,200
Speaker 1: Flash Gordon or something. I gotta seek this man, Ay,

601
00:30:15,560 --> 00:30:17,320
Speaker 1: you know say special so you.

602
00:30:17,320 --> 00:30:19,080
Speaker 3: Can't, don't. You know? They are grid and grind.

603
00:30:19,400 --> 00:30:21,600
Speaker 1: They always keep that identity and keep that in their

604
00:30:21,600 --> 00:30:23,800
Speaker 1: heart because that's how you you got to have it

605
00:30:23,800 --> 00:30:27,560
Speaker 1: hard to win. But like you know, they create their

606
00:30:27,560 --> 00:30:28,120
Speaker 1: own idea.

607
00:30:28,320 --> 00:30:37,080
Speaker 3: You know, mhm Zebo. You're definitely known as uh one

608
00:30:37,120 --> 00:30:38,240
Speaker 3: of the heart, you heart.

609
00:30:38,080 --> 00:30:42,160
Speaker 4: And soul figures of that Memphis Grizzlies ten year squad,

610
00:30:42,280 --> 00:30:44,920
Speaker 4: Grit and grind. But you spent your first six years

611
00:30:44,960 --> 00:30:48,280
Speaker 4: in Portland and those those are you know coming up

612
00:30:48,840 --> 00:30:52,680
Speaker 4: you know, young into the uh into the league. If

613
00:30:52,720 --> 00:30:55,720
Speaker 4: you're talking, if you're talking, if you're being candid with

614
00:30:56,320 --> 00:30:59,760
Speaker 4: I guess a youngster, UH that's coming into the league yourself,

615
00:31:00,000 --> 00:31:04,160
Speaker 4: and a youngster asked you, z Bo, what's one thing

616
00:31:04,280 --> 00:31:08,000
Speaker 4: you regret in your first three or four years in

617
00:31:08,040 --> 00:31:11,360
Speaker 4: the league. How would you handle something differently? What would

618
00:31:11,360 --> 00:31:14,200
Speaker 4: you what would you reveal to them? How would you

619
00:31:14,440 --> 00:31:16,320
Speaker 4: and what would you tell them?

620
00:31:16,960 --> 00:31:23,560
Speaker 1: I say, be patient, stay in the gym like I did.

621
00:31:23,640 --> 00:31:26,400
Speaker 1: You know I stayed in the gym at a young age.

622
00:31:26,400 --> 00:31:32,200
Speaker 1: And being patient, you know, keeping your circle small, not

623
00:31:32,360 --> 00:31:34,760
Speaker 1: going out all the time, not being in clubs, not

624
00:31:34,880 --> 00:31:37,520
Speaker 1: being seen, you know every now and then it's okay,

625
00:31:38,480 --> 00:31:42,880
Speaker 1: you know, but you know, keeping a low profile, you know,

626
00:31:43,600 --> 00:31:46,040
Speaker 1: you know things like that, you know that nature or

627
00:31:46,320 --> 00:31:49,320
Speaker 1: like keeping herself out of trouble, keeping themself you know

628
00:31:49,440 --> 00:31:50,160
Speaker 1: off the scene.

629
00:31:50,400 --> 00:31:51,360
Speaker 3: You mentioned patience.

630
00:31:51,360 --> 00:31:54,880
Speaker 4: You stepped into a Let me see Portland they were

631
00:31:54,920 --> 00:31:55,800
Speaker 4: pretty competitive.

632
00:31:55,840 --> 00:31:57,760
Speaker 3: Who was the vests you had your first couple of years?

633
00:31:58,240 --> 00:32:01,160
Speaker 1: My vests damn missed out of my you know, or

634
00:32:01,240 --> 00:32:07,040
Speaker 1: viatas sabone is for she Bunzie Wells, Steve Kerr, Chris Duley, guys,

635
00:32:07,160 --> 00:32:07,560
Speaker 1: like that.

636
00:32:07,960 --> 00:32:11,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, they were making these real vets, real vets.

637
00:32:11,520 --> 00:32:14,400
Speaker 4: So when you talk about patience, I'm sick of just

638
00:32:14,520 --> 00:32:15,640
Speaker 4: basketball court right now.

639
00:32:15,640 --> 00:32:17,040
Speaker 3: We talking about patients.

640
00:32:17,080 --> 00:32:19,960
Speaker 4: Like that's kind of tough when that that team is

641
00:32:20,720 --> 00:32:23,840
Speaker 4: they're prepared to win it all. Like how how difficult

642
00:32:23,960 --> 00:32:26,600
Speaker 4: is that for a young guy, you know coming into

643
00:32:26,640 --> 00:32:27,080
Speaker 4: the league.

644
00:32:27,560 --> 00:32:29,920
Speaker 1: That's that's real difficult, you know, coming in the league.

645
00:32:29,960 --> 00:32:32,280
Speaker 1: And you know back then, you you know, guys can

646
00:32:32,320 --> 00:32:33,880
Speaker 1: sit on the bench. We should sit on the floor.

647
00:32:33,880 --> 00:32:36,280
Speaker 1: So sitting on that damn floor, my ass.

648
00:32:36,120 --> 00:32:40,520
Speaker 3: Hurt every day. Hold on you, you're the first round

649
00:32:40,600 --> 00:32:43,880
Speaker 3: picks on the floor, man, every game.

650
00:32:44,360 --> 00:32:46,360
Speaker 1: But now it's just like you said, just having just

651
00:32:47,400 --> 00:32:50,520
Speaker 1: going through that, just and still learning and still having patience,

652
00:32:50,560 --> 00:32:52,840
Speaker 1: but always you know, wanting to be out there, but.

653
00:32:52,800 --> 00:32:55,000
Speaker 3: Still put your work in and whenever your number called,

654
00:32:55,400 --> 00:32:55,960
Speaker 3: stay ready.

655
00:32:56,040 --> 00:32:59,000
Speaker 1: Like when coach called me when my chance came in,

656
00:32:59,080 --> 00:33:01,400
Speaker 1: when she got spind it or whatever for the playoffs,

657
00:33:01,680 --> 00:33:04,160
Speaker 1: I got the chance, I stayed ready, and I was patient,

658
00:33:04,320 --> 00:33:06,960
Speaker 1: always worked it. You know, I was a student of

659
00:33:06,960 --> 00:33:09,400
Speaker 1: the game. I listened, you know, to all my vests,

660
00:33:09,480 --> 00:33:12,280
Speaker 1: to all my coaches. Well my time was called, I

661
00:33:12,320 --> 00:33:12,720
Speaker 1: was ready.

662
00:33:15,440 --> 00:33:17,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, So obviously we asked you about job what you

663
00:33:17,800 --> 00:33:20,200
Speaker 2: would kind of how you would kind of advise him

664
00:33:20,240 --> 00:33:22,440
Speaker 2: and talk to him. Dylan Brooks is certainly not keeping

665
00:33:22,480 --> 00:33:25,720
Speaker 2: a low profile. I mean, he's been under scrutiny this

666
00:33:25,760 --> 00:33:32,160
Speaker 2: whole postseason. You know, he's you know, issued these challenges

667
00:33:32,160 --> 00:33:34,360
Speaker 2: to Lebron James, which may or may not have been

668
00:33:34,400 --> 00:33:37,400
Speaker 2: a smart idea. I mean, what what what like? What

669
00:33:37,440 --> 00:33:41,880
Speaker 2: do you how do you evaluate his approach to these playoffs?

670
00:33:42,440 --> 00:33:45,040
Speaker 3: I like it. I like the fire, you know, I

671
00:33:45,120 --> 00:33:45,680
Speaker 3: like the fire.

672
00:33:45,760 --> 00:33:48,680
Speaker 1: But you know, as long as you stand up, and

673
00:33:48,720 --> 00:33:50,320
Speaker 1: you stand up and be a man of your word,

674
00:33:50,360 --> 00:33:53,600
Speaker 1: and you stand you know, taking how it come, win, loser, draw,

675
00:33:53,640 --> 00:33:55,720
Speaker 1: and still be the man and still hold your head

676
00:33:55,800 --> 00:33:58,120
Speaker 1: up and just that that's okay, you know.

677
00:33:58,320 --> 00:34:01,560
Speaker 3: And you know he I like him. I like him.

678
00:34:01,600 --> 00:34:02,000
Speaker 3: I like him.

679
00:34:02,000 --> 00:34:04,400
Speaker 1: He tough, he's not, you know because a lot of

680
00:34:04,440 --> 00:34:06,440
Speaker 1: these you know guys were like, you know all you

681
00:34:06,440 --> 00:34:08,200
Speaker 1: know now and play nice guy.

682
00:34:08,320 --> 00:34:10,759
Speaker 3: You know, it's your turn. It's your turn. You know.

683
00:34:10,800 --> 00:34:12,840
Speaker 1: It ain't like how it used to be. So I

684
00:34:12,880 --> 00:34:14,920
Speaker 1: think with that, you know, it makes a game funner.

685
00:34:15,040 --> 00:34:17,040
Speaker 4: I hear what you're saying, Z boy. I gotta come

686
00:34:17,040 --> 00:34:19,120
Speaker 4: back at you on that. Okay, I hear, I hear

687
00:34:19,160 --> 00:34:22,520
Speaker 4: what you're saying, right, So I love it. First of all,

688
00:34:22,520 --> 00:34:26,000
Speaker 4: I love try to talking. Terrell Lewens was my favorite

689
00:34:26,200 --> 00:34:28,080
Speaker 4: player in the NFL when he when he was playing

690
00:34:28,600 --> 00:34:31,040
Speaker 4: because he I remember, man, you know, if you if

691
00:34:31,040 --> 00:34:33,040
Speaker 4: you had a problem with him dancing an in his zone,

692
00:34:33,200 --> 00:34:33,759
Speaker 4: stop him.

693
00:34:34,280 --> 00:34:36,120
Speaker 3: I had no I remember when he did it.

694
00:34:36,320 --> 00:34:38,360
Speaker 4: And when he's playing the Baltimore Ravens, he would he

695
00:34:38,640 --> 00:34:41,040
Speaker 4: scored a touchdown on the Ravens and did the ray

696
00:34:41,120 --> 00:34:43,640
Speaker 4: Lewis dance in the end zone. I'm like, damn, he

697
00:34:43,719 --> 00:34:46,480
Speaker 4: did this right for the ray Lewis. Love it, love it.

698
00:34:46,640 --> 00:34:49,640
Speaker 3: So my thing is so Dylan, you go challenge bron Fuck.

699
00:34:49,719 --> 00:34:50,319
Speaker 3: I love it.

700
00:34:51,040 --> 00:34:54,080
Speaker 4: But you know Dylan walked out after the game, didn't

701
00:34:54,080 --> 00:34:54,800
Speaker 4: talk to the media.

702
00:34:55,040 --> 00:34:56,680
Speaker 3: Stand up. That's the stand up.

703
00:34:57,280 --> 00:34:58,120
Speaker 2: Got stand up.

704
00:34:58,440 --> 00:34:59,480
Speaker 3: What I'm talking about it.

705
00:34:59,560 --> 00:35:02,399
Speaker 1: Man, when lose your drug, you still gotta hold your

706
00:35:02,480 --> 00:35:04,560
Speaker 1: chest high and you're cheering up and take it.

707
00:35:04,719 --> 00:35:04,919
Speaker 3: Yeah.

708
00:35:04,960 --> 00:35:07,439
Speaker 1: Instead, I stood on it. We're gonna come back, bounce back,

709
00:35:08,080 --> 00:35:09,439
Speaker 1: you know, That's what I'm talking about.

710
00:35:09,480 --> 00:35:11,640
Speaker 3: Manning up. You got a man up all the way

711
00:35:11,640 --> 00:35:15,360
Speaker 3: through all the way through for sure. That's what I'm saying.

712
00:35:15,400 --> 00:35:17,400
Speaker 4: I have no problem to try atop a stand up,

713
00:35:18,440 --> 00:35:20,960
Speaker 4: do your job, you know, dress the media. He deleted,

714
00:35:21,160 --> 00:35:23,600
Speaker 4: not deleted social media, but like wipe this social media

715
00:35:23,640 --> 00:35:26,319
Speaker 4: clean and stuff like that, like not, And I don't,

716
00:35:26,680 --> 00:35:28,799
Speaker 4: cause social media is a different but like, I think

717
00:35:29,239 --> 00:35:32,000
Speaker 4: the effects of social media has a has had an

718
00:35:32,040 --> 00:35:35,040
Speaker 4: impact on mental health, and so I don't, like, I

719
00:35:35,040 --> 00:35:37,960
Speaker 4: don't slight people for how they handle that, but uh,

720
00:35:38,400 --> 00:35:41,120
Speaker 4: you know they're Dylan said, you know, the villain role

721
00:35:41,320 --> 00:35:44,040
Speaker 4: was kind of placed on him by the media and

722
00:35:44,080 --> 00:35:44,400
Speaker 4: all that.

723
00:35:44,520 --> 00:35:47,520
Speaker 3: Like, come on, you know, we can't. I can't roll

724
00:35:47,560 --> 00:35:49,640
Speaker 3: with you right there. Like I feel in everything you're.

725
00:35:49,480 --> 00:35:52,080
Speaker 4: Doing, Like I have no problem you bring in the smoke,

726
00:35:52,480 --> 00:35:54,080
Speaker 4: I have no problem with that, But you got to

727
00:35:54,160 --> 00:35:56,799
Speaker 4: stand on it. That's that's the only thing that's got

728
00:35:56,800 --> 00:35:59,279
Speaker 4: a stand on it. That's the only thing my bas time.

729
00:35:59,640 --> 00:36:02,720
Speaker 4: Go ahead, bad, I'm going on an old man, rent.

730
00:36:03,080 --> 00:36:05,600
Speaker 2: No, it's all good. I really wanted to ask you,

731
00:36:05,600 --> 00:36:07,759
Speaker 2: you know, two years ago it was the one year

732
00:36:07,800 --> 00:36:13,359
Speaker 2: anniversary of Kobe's passing, and you collaborated with me for

733
00:36:13,600 --> 00:36:17,279
Speaker 2: a piece I did on your daughter, and I was

734
00:36:17,719 --> 00:36:20,840
Speaker 2: really honored that you guys, both you and and McKinley

735
00:36:20,880 --> 00:36:22,680
Speaker 2: were willing to talk to me about that because I

736
00:36:22,760 --> 00:36:27,000
Speaker 2: just can't even imagine, you know, being thirteen fourteen and

737
00:36:27,640 --> 00:36:31,279
Speaker 2: losing someone in your life, the role that Kobe had

738
00:36:31,280 --> 00:36:34,319
Speaker 2: coaching these young girls. So just, you know, give give

739
00:36:34,400 --> 00:36:37,920
Speaker 2: us an update from everything I hear McKinley is just

740
00:36:38,520 --> 00:36:42,440
Speaker 2: crushing it and playing fantastic. Just how she doing. Kind

741
00:36:42,440 --> 00:36:44,520
Speaker 2: of give us, give us the scouting report on where

742
00:36:44,520 --> 00:36:47,120
Speaker 2: her game is right now and how much z BO

743
00:36:47,440 --> 00:36:48,480
Speaker 2: is in her game right now.

744
00:36:48,560 --> 00:36:50,120
Speaker 3: Man, McKinley, she's doing great.

745
00:36:50,200 --> 00:36:50,399
Speaker 2: Man.

746
00:36:51,040 --> 00:36:52,920
Speaker 3: They number one team in the country.

747
00:36:52,960 --> 00:36:55,080
Speaker 1: They didn't win the state they got beat they won

748
00:36:55,200 --> 00:36:58,319
Speaker 1: the year before, but they end it would still be

749
00:36:58,280 --> 00:36:59,560
Speaker 1: in the number one team in the country.

750
00:37:00,040 --> 00:37:03,279
Speaker 3: She's been working hard, man, I'm proud of her. She's

751
00:37:03,280 --> 00:37:04,719
Speaker 3: a workaholic, you know.

752
00:37:04,840 --> 00:37:07,040
Speaker 1: Not only that she gets straight as she made the

753
00:37:07,080 --> 00:37:10,120
Speaker 1: Dean List, so like she on and off the court,

754
00:37:10,160 --> 00:37:12,239
Speaker 1: off the course, she's a tremendous young lady.

755
00:37:12,400 --> 00:37:12,600
Speaker 3: Man.

756
00:37:12,800 --> 00:37:18,160
Speaker 1: It respects everybody and very humble and yes ma'am.

757
00:37:18,000 --> 00:37:20,440
Speaker 3: No sir, you know, tired her like that. So I'm

758
00:37:20,440 --> 00:37:21,239
Speaker 3: proud of her. Man.

759
00:37:21,640 --> 00:37:23,719
Speaker 1: As far as the on the court. She's she loved

760
00:37:23,760 --> 00:37:25,640
Speaker 1: working man and she wanted to be the best, and

761
00:37:25,719 --> 00:37:27,719
Speaker 1: she put her time in. She just got done working out.

762
00:37:27,760 --> 00:37:30,080
Speaker 1: I just talked to her before this interview. She was

763
00:37:30,120 --> 00:37:32,640
Speaker 1: working out her my other daughter. I got another thirteen

764
00:37:32,680 --> 00:37:34,600
Speaker 1: year old daughter at place too, so they were working

765
00:37:34,640 --> 00:37:37,520
Speaker 1: out together. So but yeah, I'm proud of Kelly Man,

766
00:37:37,560 --> 00:37:38,720
Speaker 1: I really am.

767
00:37:38,960 --> 00:37:39,480
Speaker 3: That's dope.

768
00:37:39,520 --> 00:37:41,600
Speaker 2: Are they both righty's or is there another lefty in

769
00:37:41,600 --> 00:37:42,040
Speaker 2: the family?

770
00:37:43,960 --> 00:37:47,799
Speaker 1: Kelly righty Messiah, she's alrighty. My son he's lefty, he's

771
00:37:47,880 --> 00:37:50,040
Speaker 1: he can do both hands. My nine year old, so

772
00:37:50,239 --> 00:37:51,040
Speaker 1: their little brother.

773
00:37:51,160 --> 00:37:53,080
Speaker 3: So that's dope. Ze Bo.

774
00:37:53,160 --> 00:37:55,640
Speaker 4: I wanted to ask, you know, looking at your numbers.

775
00:37:55,680 --> 00:38:01,000
Speaker 4: You know, usually when a player of your calibers the league,

776
00:38:01,760 --> 00:38:04,400
Speaker 4: you start to look at their numbers throughout the career

777
00:38:04,520 --> 00:38:06,759
Speaker 4: last three years and you start to see a decline

778
00:38:07,600 --> 00:38:12,040
Speaker 4: in numbers. There really wasn't a decline for you. I

779
00:38:12,040 --> 00:38:14,120
Speaker 4: mean your last year with the Kings, you average around

780
00:38:14,160 --> 00:38:18,520
Speaker 4: fourteen to fifteen the game. And so I want to ask,

781
00:38:18,760 --> 00:38:22,080
Speaker 4: how was how was exit the league at that point

782
00:38:22,160 --> 00:38:27,400
Speaker 4: when obviously you still could play, Like, how how was it?

783
00:38:27,600 --> 00:38:30,200
Speaker 3: How was it for you? That's a good question.

784
00:38:30,320 --> 00:38:32,520
Speaker 1: Man, see, well, you know, you know around that time,

785
00:38:32,600 --> 00:38:34,640
Speaker 1: you know, I see, the league was going a lot younger,

786
00:38:34,719 --> 00:38:37,319
Speaker 1: and you know, I had stuff, you know, with set

787
00:38:37,360 --> 00:38:39,840
Speaker 1: up in business. I didn't really want to stop playing,

788
00:38:39,880 --> 00:38:41,680
Speaker 1: but I didn't want to be one of them guys

789
00:38:41,719 --> 00:38:45,080
Speaker 1: that you know, go to a team and don't play

790
00:38:45,120 --> 00:38:47,640
Speaker 1: and they gonna say, okay, Zebo, just let the young

791
00:38:47,680 --> 00:38:50,200
Speaker 1: guys play, because I know I could still play and

792
00:38:50,239 --> 00:38:52,520
Speaker 1: bring something to the team. So, you know, I just

793
00:38:52,600 --> 00:38:54,759
Speaker 1: made a decision man that you know, I was thirty eight,

794
00:38:54,960 --> 00:39:00,160
Speaker 1: you know, I probably it was maybe thirty seven. So

795
00:39:00,160 --> 00:39:02,759
Speaker 1: so I was like still at that age, like you know,

796
00:39:02,880 --> 00:39:04,799
Speaker 1: returning seventeen, and so I was like, you know, I

797
00:39:04,800 --> 00:39:07,400
Speaker 1: could play a couple of years, maybe get bounced around

798
00:39:07,400 --> 00:39:09,719
Speaker 1: here or there, you know what I mean. But I

799
00:39:09,800 --> 00:39:11,840
Speaker 1: just decided to go in and go into with the business,

800
00:39:11,880 --> 00:39:15,200
Speaker 1: you know, focus on the music industry and you know,

801
00:39:15,280 --> 00:39:17,960
Speaker 1: the real estate and my business and been well. And

802
00:39:18,080 --> 00:39:20,399
Speaker 1: I have a lot of time when my kids can

803
00:39:20,440 --> 00:39:21,040
Speaker 1: go to their game.

804
00:39:21,160 --> 00:39:23,399
Speaker 3: So man, I was glad I did what I did.

805
00:39:24,400 --> 00:39:26,920
Speaker 4: So it wasn't it wasn't a hard transition for you,

806
00:39:26,920 --> 00:39:31,080
Speaker 4: you know, sir, Okay, your last season you spent with

807
00:39:31,120 --> 00:39:32,320
Speaker 4: the Sacramento Kings.

808
00:39:32,440 --> 00:39:35,160
Speaker 3: What do you think about what they've done? And yeah,

809
00:39:35,160 --> 00:39:37,239
Speaker 3: I mean they were they were looking good for a

810
00:39:37,280 --> 00:39:38,959
Speaker 3: minute and serious against the Golden State Wars.

811
00:39:38,960 --> 00:39:41,160
Speaker 4: They were up two. Oh they lost the last three. Now,

812
00:39:41,200 --> 00:39:43,800
Speaker 4: but what do you think of their story?

813
00:39:44,239 --> 00:39:47,719
Speaker 3: Man? Sacramento is a great organization, tremendous man.

814
00:39:47,920 --> 00:39:50,880
Speaker 1: But uh, you know revect the owner man, and you

815
00:39:50,920 --> 00:39:54,520
Speaker 1: know Mike Brown and coach what they're building there with

816
00:39:55,200 --> 00:39:58,239
Speaker 1: you know, the All Stars and d Fox and some bonus.

817
00:39:58,560 --> 00:40:00,440
Speaker 1: So I think what they're doing is great, you know,

818
00:40:00,600 --> 00:40:03,799
Speaker 1: like you said there, you know it's gonna be one

819
00:40:03,840 --> 00:40:05,200
Speaker 1: of them teams to be reckoned with for a long

820
00:40:05,239 --> 00:40:08,000
Speaker 1: long time out there, the West Man in the NBA,

821
00:40:08,239 --> 00:40:11,640
Speaker 1: you know. So it's gonna be the futures great for them.

822
00:40:13,400 --> 00:40:15,359
Speaker 2: Last thing and we'll let you get out of here.

823
00:40:15,600 --> 00:40:20,600
Speaker 2: Miami just knocked off Milwaukee as an eighth seed over

824
00:40:20,640 --> 00:40:24,120
Speaker 2: a number one seed. I can't forget that you were

825
00:40:24,200 --> 00:40:26,440
Speaker 2: part of one of those. That's there's only been six

826
00:40:27,040 --> 00:40:30,200
Speaker 2: in NBA history, number eight over number one. There's only

827
00:40:30,239 --> 00:40:35,319
Speaker 2: been four in the Best of seven era. But you

828
00:40:35,400 --> 00:40:38,279
Speaker 2: guys were so crazy. If I remember this right, and

829
00:40:38,320 --> 00:40:39,719
Speaker 2: you could tell me if I have it wrong, but

830
00:40:39,760 --> 00:40:44,440
Speaker 2: I think I have it right. The Grizz were tanking

831
00:40:44,480 --> 00:40:47,160
Speaker 2: their way. They wanted to play San Antonio in the

832
00:40:47,160 --> 00:40:51,480
Speaker 2: first round for some crazy reason. But it actually worked.

833
00:40:51,920 --> 00:40:54,239
Speaker 2: It was actually the right call. And you guys, you

834
00:40:54,280 --> 00:40:57,040
Speaker 2: guys knocked them out. What do you remember about that run?

835
00:40:57,400 --> 00:40:59,680
Speaker 1: That is true, Mark, because I think like we had

836
00:41:00,040 --> 00:41:02,200
Speaker 1: during the season or are playing against the Spurs. We

837
00:41:02,280 --> 00:41:04,440
Speaker 1: had the overall record. We thought we matched up with

838
00:41:04,560 --> 00:41:07,719
Speaker 1: him pretty good, man, And yeah, so we were trying

839
00:41:07,719 --> 00:41:08,960
Speaker 1: to get to the Spurs.

840
00:41:09,000 --> 00:41:12,000
Speaker 3: That is true, man. It was a great, great you.

841
00:41:11,880 --> 00:41:14,520
Speaker 1: Know, part of my career I will forget always think

842
00:41:14,560 --> 00:41:17,520
Speaker 1: about just beating them and then playoff feeling it, you know,

843
00:41:17,680 --> 00:41:18,840
Speaker 1: just seeing what it's all about.

844
00:41:18,880 --> 00:41:20,839
Speaker 3: Man, there's nothing like playoff basketball, Zach.

845
00:41:20,880 --> 00:41:22,520
Speaker 4: Before you get out of here, man, I gotta ask

846
00:41:22,560 --> 00:41:26,320
Speaker 4: you this because this just came across my desk, probably

847
00:41:26,400 --> 00:41:29,960
Speaker 4: a day last day or so. You really paid Jamar

848
00:41:30,160 --> 00:41:34,560
Speaker 4: Carroll ten thousand dollars for some Air Force ones?

849
00:41:35,280 --> 00:41:39,799
Speaker 3: Hell? No, Oh, did you see did you see him?

850
00:41:39,840 --> 00:41:44,880
Speaker 3: Did you see him say that? Uh? Uh? Did you call? Hell? No,

851
00:41:45,360 --> 00:41:49,920
Speaker 3: Damar Carroll? No hold on man, hold on ten thousand?

852
00:41:50,320 --> 00:41:51,879
Speaker 3: Hold he's gonna give you some shit.

853
00:41:53,360 --> 00:41:57,839
Speaker 6: Hold on hold when I realized that, Hey man, I'm

854
00:41:57,840 --> 00:42:01,879
Speaker 6: in the NBA. These guys got money. My big vet

855
00:42:02,120 --> 00:42:05,840
Speaker 6: Zach Randolph the best guy. There is no fake about him.

856
00:42:05,920 --> 00:42:07,000
Speaker 6: So one day I come.

857
00:42:06,880 --> 00:42:08,799
Speaker 5: In and he was like, hey, little brother, little bro,

858
00:42:08,880 --> 00:42:10,560
Speaker 5: come here. And I was like, what's up? What's up?

859
00:42:10,560 --> 00:42:10,680
Speaker 3: Bro?

860
00:42:10,920 --> 00:42:12,960
Speaker 5: I need you go get me some white, some white ones.

861
00:42:13,320 --> 00:42:16,160
Speaker 5: I was like, what your white was? And he pulled

862
00:42:16,160 --> 00:42:18,920
Speaker 5: out a lot of money. It was like some eight.

863
00:42:18,800 --> 00:42:21,719
Speaker 6: Thousand he handed to me. I said, I said, what

864
00:42:21,800 --> 00:42:23,480
Speaker 6: you need on the one? Yeah, I just need one

865
00:42:23,560 --> 00:42:24,880
Speaker 6: you bring I said, what's all this?

866
00:42:24,920 --> 00:42:25,680
Speaker 5: I don't need all this?

867
00:42:26,000 --> 00:42:28,560
Speaker 6: Whatever the rest will figure out. I'm like, you know,

868
00:42:28,680 --> 00:42:30,640
Speaker 6: I'm gonna be smart. He might be testing me. Let

869
00:42:30,640 --> 00:42:33,359
Speaker 6: me see. I'm grabbed by eight or ten. I brought

870
00:42:33,400 --> 00:42:35,640
Speaker 6: him back to Change, I think Change probably about six

871
00:42:35,719 --> 00:42:37,560
Speaker 6: thousand probably, and I was like, here you go, bro.

872
00:42:37,800 --> 00:42:40,080
Speaker 5: He was like, nah, you keep that. He grabbed, pulled

873
00:42:40,120 --> 00:42:42,560
Speaker 5: out another folk down. He was like, make that team.

874
00:42:42,680 --> 00:42:43,600
Speaker 5: He go, there you go.

875
00:42:43,760 --> 00:42:48,759
Speaker 6: I said, what in the world where am I?

876
00:42:48,840 --> 00:42:58,640
Speaker 1: That's cap brush cap maybe a few maybe a few

877
00:42:58,719 --> 00:42:59,759
Speaker 1: hundred or something.

878
00:43:03,840 --> 00:43:12,799
Speaker 3: That's a good story, though, it was a long topicgo man,

879
00:43:12,880 --> 00:43:22,560
Speaker 3: that is memories of them. Yeah, ten thousand and Nike

880
00:43:22,640 --> 00:43:25,560
Speaker 3: sitting the Air Force one. I haven't I haven't been.

881
00:43:30,120 --> 00:43:32,720
Speaker 3: It was a long topical, man, that mays a memory.

882
00:43:32,920 --> 00:43:37,719
Speaker 4: You membery get bad after a while, man.

883
00:43:36,160 --> 00:43:40,360
Speaker 1: Age murray, good guy, that's my that's my young boy.

884
00:43:39,120 --> 00:43:43,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, go ahead style we close it out. Story.

885
00:43:43,760 --> 00:43:46,120
Speaker 2: Well, look, it's been great to visit with you and

886
00:43:46,160 --> 00:43:48,520
Speaker 2: tell some old tales. But you really think the Grids

887
00:43:48,520 --> 00:43:50,480
Speaker 2: are going to win this game six in l A

888
00:43:50,680 --> 00:43:52,880
Speaker 2: and take this thing back home for a game seven.

889
00:43:53,320 --> 00:43:55,040
Speaker 3: I'd be in the building tomorrow. That's right.

890
00:43:55,480 --> 00:43:57,640
Speaker 1: Bring them good, bring that good, or to the building

891
00:43:57,680 --> 00:43:59,680
Speaker 1: tomorrow the Grizzlies.

892
00:43:59,719 --> 00:44:01,520
Speaker 2: Man, you'll get a good seat while they get you

893
00:44:01,560 --> 00:44:02,040
Speaker 2: on the floor.

894
00:44:03,280 --> 00:44:05,600
Speaker 3: I want to be on the floor, man, I got

895
00:44:05,600 --> 00:44:06,480
Speaker 3: a card, pair of man.

896
00:44:06,560 --> 00:44:06,759
Speaker 4: See that.

897
00:44:06,840 --> 00:44:10,920
Speaker 2: You put me on the floor, we'll be we'll be

898
00:44:10,960 --> 00:44:12,920
Speaker 2: looking for you. Thanks the mill for joining us. Man,

899
00:44:12,960 --> 00:44:14,040
Speaker 2: always great to catch up.

900
00:44:14,840 --> 00:44:19,480
Speaker 3: Appreciate appreciate you, and that'll do it for us.

901
00:44:19,760 --> 00:44:24,320
Speaker 5: See you next time. This League on Cuttage and iHeartRadio Production.

902
00:44:29,320 --> 00:44:42,680
Speaker 2: Chris Haines and Mark Steinh