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Speaker 2: It's time for our twentieth episode of Splash Hit Territory.

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Speaker 2: I just got off the plane from Fantasy Camp at Scottsdale.

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Speaker 2: I hooked my computer up and we are doing a show,

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Speaker 2: and we are so excited to be here. We are

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Speaker 2: so excited to be joined once again by the great

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Speaker 2: Susan Slusser.

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Speaker 1: Susan, how are we doing?

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Speaker 3: Hi, FP, how are you doing. You've had a long week.

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Speaker 3: I've just been sitting here waiting you do it. For

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Speaker 3: you to land basically.

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Speaker 2: I mean I landed, got in the car, drove fast

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Speaker 2: so we could do this. It was a great week man,

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Speaker 2: especially I really like Jeremy Affelt and I got to

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Speaker 2: spend a week with him. He's fantastic, nice enough to

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Speaker 2: come on our show. And just the campers in general,

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Speaker 2: it was I'm telling you this, I'm not trying to

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Speaker 2: sell anything. This is one of the greatest things I

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Speaker 1: It was really really fun.

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Speaker 2: So since then though, yesterday and even today i camp

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Speaker 2: before I left, everybody talking about the big news that's

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Speaker 2: obviously big. It's obviously Kyle Tucker signed for sixty million

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Speaker 2: dollars a year with the Dodgers. I'm getting numb to

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Speaker 2: this whole thing. I mean, they're signing everybody for tons

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Speaker 2: of money. I want to get your take on this.

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Speaker 2: This is going to be a lot of you today,

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Speaker 2: because you're better with all of this stuff than I am.

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Speaker 1: So you go first and I'll just kind of react.

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Speaker 1: I have some strong opinions on it, but I want

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Speaker 1: the Dodgers signing Kyle Tucker.

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Speaker 3: Well, I feel like, you know, that's been kind of

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Speaker 3: the theme of this whole off season, right Are the

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Speaker 3: Giants going to spend any money? Are they going to

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Speaker 3: do anything? They've made, you know, a few incremental I

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Speaker 3: would say moves. Theoretically they have a full rotation. But

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Speaker 3: we heard from the very start of the off season

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Speaker 3: when Greg Johnson spoke to me, spoke to the s

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Speaker 3: S Standard and said, they're not really looking to give

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Speaker 3: out a lot more big contracts, you know, sort of

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Speaker 3: signaling throughout we're not going to get you know, and

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Speaker 3: certainly they could have jumped in on Inimy and they

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Speaker 3: didn't get him, you know, when it wound up being

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Speaker 3: a somewhat more team friendly deal with the Astros than

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Speaker 3: I think anyone had expected. I mean, heck, look, the

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Speaker 3: sixteen million now. Greg Johnson also said, we don't worry

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Speaker 3: about going over the threshold. Okay, great, I mean theoretically,

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Speaker 3: still guys left. That's the thing. Kyle Tucker was not

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Speaker 3: the last. He was the biggest free agent available. Of

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Speaker 3: course he's not the last. It's just the Giants really

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Speaker 3: need an elite center fielder who was both a great

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Speaker 3: saying Cody Bellinger. He's still out there. So I don't know.

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Speaker 3: I don't know if it's all necessarily die dire from

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Speaker 3: base that's not based in LA. Right now, they're just

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Speaker 3: spending a fortune. They've got all that TV money, They've

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Speaker 3: I do have to say I'm all for teams spending money.

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Speaker 3: I love it. I'd rather have teams spend money on

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Speaker 3: But even considering you know, I'm very pro player, this

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Speaker 1: I'm going to give you my take and you give yours.

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Speaker 2: As a player, I would want to have a nice contract,

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Speaker 1: So that's hard Number one. I never got to do that.

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Speaker 2: But if I was a big boy, I wouldn't want

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Speaker 2: how I'm wired. JT said, I'll just go where the

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Speaker 2: think it's horrible for baseball fans where twenty nine teams

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Speaker 1: The greatest part about spring training.

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Speaker 2: Whether the Cubs and you haven't won a World Series

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Speaker 2: in one hundred and eight years, thinking this is our year,

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Speaker 2: and for you know, other teams that haven't wanted, this

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Speaker 2: has to be fixed. The Dodgers are doing nothing wrong,

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Speaker 2: they're playing within the rules. They're fine, but there has

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Speaker 2: to be a floor, and there has to be a

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Speaker 1: Kyle Tucker's making as much as some of these teams.

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Speaker 1: There has to be some sort of.

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Speaker 2: Competition law in there where teams can compete. And you

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Speaker 2: look at the parody in the NFL right now. The

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Speaker 2: with this. And I saw this on Twitter, so I'm

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Speaker 2: not making this up myself. Steph Curry's making fifty nine

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Speaker 1: I'm sorry.

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Speaker 2: So whatever we're doing here is all out of whack.

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Speaker 2: I think Kyle Tucker's great player. I don't think he's

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Speaker 3: Okay, So I do have a question on what you

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Speaker 3: said floor and ceiling ceiling would indicate a cap. You're

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Speaker 2: Well, this is out of control right now. Something has

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Speaker 2: to happen, something has to change. Yeah, we fought for

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Speaker 1: And he said, you get to play in front of

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Speaker 2: And he GOESID, if anybody has a problem with that,

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Speaker 2: we fought for that, and I understand, but different times.

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Speaker 2: Right now, you got the fifth or sixth best player

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Speaker 1: Something's got to change.

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Speaker 3: I don't think one team should make it so the

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Speaker 3: which is a salary cap. I'm off for a floor, absolutely.

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Speaker 3: I think there are creative ways that you can have

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Speaker 3: There are revenue sharing rules and incentives and things that

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Speaker 3: What we're seeing is those don't work. So I think

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Speaker 3: there has to be an actual floor. But I can't

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Speaker 3: And baseball traditionally has had more parody than a lot

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Speaker 3: The Dodgers are out of control. Now do you go

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Speaker 3: I don't know. I think the beauty really of baseball

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Speaker 3: to win the division, the Padres don't have to win

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Speaker 3: And I think the Dodgers could be beat your playoff series.

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Speaker 1: Maybe they were this year.

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Speaker 2: I mean they went to Game seven, we get a

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Speaker 3: Lost your point.

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Speaker 2: I was going to go on and Rand, I'll interrupt

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Speaker 3: We're the same age, so this this stuff happens to

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Speaker 2: I just saw something on Instagram where a man's brain

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Speaker 1: But that's just that's that doesn't apply to me apparently,

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Speaker 2: Oh good, you forget everyone's mad at the Giants and

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Speaker 2: Greg Johnson and ownership for not going out and spending money.

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Speaker 2: I'm thinking, like an owner, I don't know anything about money,

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Speaker 2: but with the Dodgers so far up here, why would

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Speaker 2: and something weird happens if you get in the tournament.

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Speaker 1: But like, I kind of understand where owners are coming

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Speaker 1: from right now. I saw something where the Braves made

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Speaker 1: three hundred million dollars this year, and all these teams

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Speaker 2: Giants fans want the Giants to spend money like the Dodgers.

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Speaker 2: But if you're Kyle Tucker, and that was kind of

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Speaker 1: I'll tell you this season.

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Speaker 3: changes a little bit for the fan base. I certainly

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Speaker 3: hope it does. You know, people want to see an effort,

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Speaker 3: and look, they've made some nice incremental moves, but just

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Speaker 3: nothing so far that would really blow you away. Really,

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Speaker 3: except for Tony Veitela has been the one big talking

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Speaker 3: point all season.

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Speaker 1: So I mean Tony getting any hits this year or

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Speaker 1: hitting any home runs. I'll tell you that right now.

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Speaker 1: I love the guy. I'm super high on him as

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Speaker 1: the manager, but he ain't getting no hits.

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Speaker 2: Do you think Giants fans would be more upsets or

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Speaker 2: fired up if the Giants signed Kyle Tucker for sixty

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Speaker 2: million dollars a year, because that in my hamster.

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Speaker 3: Everybody happy? That's gonna be. There would be a few going,

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Speaker 3: this is outrageous. This games changed too much. That's too

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Speaker 3: much money. Why But I would have to think that

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Speaker 3: the majority of a fan base would be thrilled if

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Speaker 3: he added a Kyle Tucker. I mean, he is just

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Speaker 3: entering his prime right now. This is a pretty special player. So,

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Speaker 3: I mean, he is the one guy. I never heard

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Speaker 3: the Giants connected with him.

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Speaker 1: Really.

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Speaker 3: I think they made a little bit of a call,

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Speaker 3: but I never got the sense there was anything there,

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Speaker 3: and it just it was just too much. I mean,

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Speaker 3: do you remember the estimates going into the off season

463
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Speaker 3: were like four hundred five hundred million, which is insane.

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Speaker 3: But obviously he didn't get that, so that's that's interesting too.

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Speaker 3: I mean the rejected numbers were so much more now

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Speaker 3: the value per year still up there sixty sixty years

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Speaker 3: that's pretty good. That's pretty good Steph Curry.

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Speaker 1: He's not better than Steph Curry, and I'm sticking.

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Speaker 2: To do that.

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Speaker 3: Okay, So the Giants did have actually big news this week,

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Speaker 3: and I'm not sure how like, especially with the Tucker

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Speaker 3: thing breaking, I'm not sure how much people are paying

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Speaker 3: attention to it, but the Giants legit signed the best

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Speaker 3: amateur international player available, Venezuelan outfielder Luis Hernandez, who, in

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Speaker 3: playing in the Venezuela in summer league against a lot

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Speaker 3: older competition, including some former Big leaguers, hit three forty

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Speaker 3: six and he was their Rookie of the year going away.

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Speaker 3: This kid is seventeen, if he at all looks at

479
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Speaker 3: all like Jas Gonzalez, who was the number two overall

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Speaker 3: prospect last year, and the Giant side, he's coming along

481
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Speaker 3: so fast that a Baseball America said that Gonzalez right now,

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Speaker 3: at age eighteen, if he was entering the draft, would

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Speaker 3: probably be the number one pick. So the Giants have

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Speaker 3: these two guys who are elite, and they're adding so many.

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Speaker 3: Their Venezuelan operations in particular are really impressive. They've got

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Speaker 3: nine scouts there. They seem like they have the top

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Speaker 3: guys coming out of Venezuela just completely sewed up. So

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Speaker 3: that is a very exciting development. This used to be

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Speaker 3: a franchise known for going out and finding some of

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Speaker 3: the best Latin talent, and this is a really kind

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Speaker 3: of look at it. You got a Damis and Devors

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Speaker 3: your shortstop in your first basement. Are both guys who

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Speaker 3: were international amateurs who signed on you know, this time

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Speaker 3: of year, back when they were kids. This is a

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Speaker 3: nice way to build Now. Look, we all know what

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Speaker 3: happened with Marco Luciano. There are far more international prospects

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Speaker 3: who do not pan out as hoped. You're talking sixteen

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Speaker 3: seventeen year olds. But this is very exciting that the

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Speaker 3: Giants are getting these kind of players. So I just

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Speaker 3: love it. And Gonzales and Hernandez might wind up be

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Speaker 3: in their middle infield for a long time.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I heard Hernandez can is like the complete athlete.

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Speaker 1: I talked to Travis E. Shakawi.

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Speaker 2: He was on a conference call and I asked him

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Speaker 2: if I could mention this on our podcast today, and

506
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Speaker 2: apparently this guy's smooth and a scratch golfer, like he's

507
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Speaker 2: a good athlete, not that that matters, but that kind

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Speaker 2: of matters.

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Speaker 1: Like you, you want to hear things like that, that

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Speaker 1: he's well rounded.

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Speaker 2: I don't want to be a buzzkill, but I'm I'll

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Speaker 2: enjoy the prospects when they're at the corner third and King,

513
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Speaker 2: you know what I mean, Like when they're when they're

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Speaker 2: when I'm broadcasting a game and they're on the field.

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Speaker 2: That's when I get excited because I did it, Susan,

516
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Speaker 2: and I saw guys that I passed that had more

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Speaker 2: talent on their pinky finger than I had.

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Speaker 1: On my body. I saw many, so many guys, Like

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Speaker 1: the minor league.

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Speaker 2: Road is a tough one and you're traveling on a

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Speaker 2: bus and you're playing a crappy ballparks on crappy infields.

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Speaker 2: It's a little bit better than back in the old

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Speaker 2: days when I played. So yeah, it's great and I think,

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Speaker 2: you know, hats off to our scouting department, Latin scouting

525
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Speaker 2: department in Zach Manascian who had scouting in his blood

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Speaker 2: in his background.

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Speaker 1: It's awesome. But like I don't sit here.

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Speaker 2: And go woo who when I read your tweets about it.

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Speaker 2: I want to see him in a giant's uniform, and

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Speaker 2: I want to see him getting hits into triples alley

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Speaker 2: and then I'll get excited because we get excited about

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Speaker 2: Marco Luciano.

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Speaker 1: It didn't pan out.

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Speaker 2: There was twenty Marco Luciano's that I passed and stayed

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Speaker 2: in the big leagues for seven years. So if I

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Speaker 2: was ever a GM, and God help us all if

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Speaker 2: I was, i'man parades over prospects all day. I want parades.

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Speaker 2: I want somebody to help me get into a parade,

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Speaker 2: and I would trade. That's what Brian Zabian did. He

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Speaker 2: traded prospects for older established guys and it worked in

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Speaker 2: three parades.

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Speaker 3: But you have to have the prospects. That's one of

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Speaker 3: the reasons the Dodgers are certainly when they started getting

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Speaker 3: to where they are now, they had the best system

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Speaker 3: in baseball for a number of years. And oh there's Kat.

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Speaker 3: This is well, this is Noel who they've been calling

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Speaker 3: no lxc X because she is such a brat.

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Speaker 1: She really I'm allergic to cats. My eyes are starting.

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Speaker 1: It's a little big you know this about all right?

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Speaker 1: Where's where is this off the rails pot? I like

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Speaker 1: this show. I like.

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Speaker 3: We're kind of all over the map anyway, I'm I

553
00:27:19,960 --> 00:27:24,879
Speaker 3: think the Giants system is sometimes unfairly maligned, certainly not

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Speaker 3: ranked as that. I mean they jumped ten places last

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Speaker 3: year based on Gonzalez. Essentially they could jump another ten

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Speaker 3: based on hernandez I. And this is this is good stuff,

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00:27:34,680 --> 00:27:37,480
Speaker 3: This is important stuff. And if you want prospects to trade,

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Speaker 3: they now have so many young shortstop Johnny level. I

559
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Speaker 3: think that's how you pronounce it is a young shortstop

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Speaker 3: that I'm told every time a team calls about Giants players,

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Speaker 3: they're almost all asking for him. And this is a

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Speaker 3: this is you know, Joshua war Gonzalez is playing shortstop.

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Speaker 3: Teams are calling about Johnny Lovell, so uh, it's going

564
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Speaker 3: to give them ammo for for whatever they want to

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Speaker 3: or heck they you know shortstops. He can move him everywhere, right.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't want to correct you, but I think

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Speaker 2: it's Johnny leamaster game.

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Speaker 1: I think that's how you say name is boo. Pretty

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Speaker 1: sure it's Johnny Disaster. I love it.

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Speaker 3: That's a deep cut for you young kids out there. Hey,

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Speaker 3: speaking of maybe just like the older older guys, we

572
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Speaker 3: need a little shout out to Brandon Crawford, who goes

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Speaker 3: into the Baseball Sports Hall of Fame this I mean,

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Speaker 3: not Baseball, the Bay Area Sports Hall of Fame. Uh,

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Speaker 3: He's going in in this this year's class. Fantastic pleasant

576
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Speaker 3: in kids. Spent almost his entire career with the Giants,

577
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Speaker 3: wins three rings with the Giants. Good giant. So that's

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Speaker 3: that's very exciting news.

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Speaker 2: I think, awesome, all time great Giants shortstop. If you

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Speaker 2: watch a last podcast, Jeremy Ifelt mentioned him.

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Speaker 1: Like ten times. He was just, you know, just throw it.

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Speaker 2: Down the middle, and I got Crawford behind me, he said,

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Speaker 2: like five times. And that's what a good defense does

584
00:29:05,520 --> 00:29:07,760
Speaker 2: for you on the pitching on the mount, especially when

585
00:29:07,760 --> 00:29:11,200
Speaker 2: you're a sinker ball guy. You got Chapman, Adamis, you

586
00:29:11,280 --> 00:29:13,880
Speaker 2: got Casey Schmidt, Devers is gonna get better over there.

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00:29:14,120 --> 00:29:14,280
Speaker 1: Now.

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00:29:14,280 --> 00:29:16,080
Speaker 2: I'm just going after guys, right because I know the

589
00:29:16,080 --> 00:29:17,040
Speaker 2: ball is going to be caught.

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Speaker 1: That wasn't the case a couple of years ago. We

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Speaker 1: didn't know if the ball was going to be caught.

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Speaker 2: I saw some plays and I was going, this is

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00:29:22,840 --> 00:29:25,080
Speaker 2: the big leagues, and we didn't see a whole.

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Speaker 1: Lot of that last year at all.

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Speaker 3: Well, I am very excited for Brandon, and I'm excited

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Speaker 3: about the prospects. So FP, you're not supposed to be

597
00:29:34,960 --> 00:29:38,080
Speaker 3: the downer guy. You're supposed to be like up with people.

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00:29:38,360 --> 00:29:41,040
Speaker 2: I'm excited when they jog out to the third baseline

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Speaker 2: on opening day and the jets are flying over.

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Speaker 1: That's what I'll be excited about them.

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Speaker 3: All right.

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Speaker 1: Do we gotta sell some merchandise? Come on, let's go.

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00:29:49,200 --> 00:29:50,760
Speaker 3: Oh, yeah, we do.

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00:29:52,200 --> 00:29:54,640
Speaker 2: The box that my computer is sitting on right now

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00:29:54,720 --> 00:29:57,040
Speaker 2: is my Splash Hit merchandise. I just got home, so

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00:29:57,040 --> 00:29:58,600
Speaker 2: I'm going to open it up right after the show,

607
00:29:58,880 --> 00:30:00,880
Speaker 2: or I would be sporting. So thanks to everybody at

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Speaker 2: File Territory Network for doing this for us, for getting

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Speaker 2: the merch all set up. We're selling merchandise right now.

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Speaker 2: They're going like hotcakes. We can't talk about it long

611
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Speaker 2: enough until I find the button to push to get

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00:30:13,680 --> 00:30:16,840
Speaker 2: it on there there is. Anthony, Jeffrey, Jim, and Christy

613
00:30:16,920 --> 00:30:20,960
Speaker 2: are the first customers to buy the Splash Hit Territory merchandise.

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00:30:21,440 --> 00:30:23,560
Speaker 2: Susan says the shirts are soft. I'll tell you right

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00:30:23,600 --> 00:30:25,360
Speaker 2: after the show or on our next podcast, because it's

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Speaker 2: still in a box for me. I want that coffee cup.

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Speaker 2: I want that coffee cup. The backpack for all you

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Speaker 2: nerds out there that still go to school, that's good.

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Speaker 1: The hoodie.

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Speaker 2: Love the hoodie. I need a hoodie in my life.

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Speaker 2: Maybe it's in a box. If you play pickle ball.

622
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Speaker 2: That splash hit the bag is good and the beanie

623
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Speaker 2: and Susan could do a reporting with her splash hit pad.

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Speaker 2: So check out the murder. That's good merch man. We

625
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Speaker 2: came up with a sick name for a podcast. Even

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Speaker 2: if a show Go two isn't that great, we still

627
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Speaker 2: got good merchandise.

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Speaker 3: And thanks thanks to everybody who did buy merch so far.

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Speaker 3: I know, Christy on X whatever we're calling it, I'm

630
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Speaker 3: gonna sick with Twitter was saying almost from the first

631
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Speaker 3: week we were on when are you guys going to

632
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Speaker 3: have merch? And she came through and got merch I'm

633
00:31:10,080 --> 00:31:13,720
Speaker 3: assuming she's the same Christie. It is soon, but that's awesome.

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00:31:13,880 --> 00:31:16,160
Speaker 2: She loves our podcasts a lot of people. The feedback's

635
00:31:16,200 --> 00:31:20,440
Speaker 2: been great. We're trying to get more subscribers. I was

636
00:31:20,480 --> 00:31:24,520
Speaker 2: pumping it up in Kangaroo Court at Fantasy Camp. I'm like,

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00:31:24,560 --> 00:31:28,720
Speaker 2: you guys, splash it territory. It's me, Susan Slusher joins

638
00:31:28,720 --> 00:31:29,480
Speaker 2: me on occasion.

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Speaker 1: She's amazing.

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Speaker 2: You guys got to come on splash it territory. Next

641
00:31:32,880 --> 00:31:36,400
Speaker 2: goal three thousand subscribers. Hopefully we can get to that soon.

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00:31:36,480 --> 00:31:38,560
Speaker 2: So you guys have been amazing.

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Speaker 1: Last thoughts from Susan slusser Man.

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Speaker 3: I don't know. I have to think that something's going

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00:31:44,640 --> 00:31:46,520
Speaker 3: to happen here in the next week or two. I'm

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00:31:46,560 --> 00:31:49,120
Speaker 3: hoping we have a lot to talk about next week.

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Speaker 3: But in the meantime, if anybody has questions for us,

648
00:31:52,360 --> 00:31:56,440
Speaker 3: please jump onto the YouTube comments or onto any of

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Speaker 3: our social media and ask them some questions. I have

650
00:31:58,680 --> 00:32:02,120
Speaker 3: a feeling we'll have a coming up here because I

651
00:32:02,160 --> 00:32:05,120
Speaker 3: think people want to talk about Kyle Tucker certainly we did,

652
00:32:05,760 --> 00:32:08,440
Speaker 3: and a lot more about baseball business, but just the

653
00:32:08,480 --> 00:32:12,000
Speaker 3: Giants in general. So yeah, give us a shout out

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Speaker 3: if you have any questions for us, and we'll do

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Speaker 3: a mail bag.

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Speaker 2: Wilson, absolutely, the one thing I miss from doing these

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Speaker 2: shows is that camb are, the interaction with the fans

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Speaker 2: and taking calls. So we're not doing this live maybe someday,

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Speaker 2: but right now, if we do that mail bag, that's

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Speaker 2: our interaction and the one mail bag.

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Speaker 1: Show we did was one of my favorites. You guys

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Speaker 1: are so smart.

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Speaker 2: Giants fans are the smartest fans of the world. We

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Speaker 2: would love to answer some of your questions.

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Speaker 1: All right, Susan, I'm gonna eat and get some sleep.

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Speaker 2: Thanks for rolling with me, Thanks for waiting for my

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Speaker 2: flight to get in. It's always great to see you

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Speaker 2: did a fantastic job, all right. My sign off every

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Speaker 2: time I used to do it on cambr and I'm

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Speaker 2: gonna do it on this show.

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Speaker 1: Swing hard in case you hit it on Splash Hit Territory.

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Speaker 3: The