WEBVTT - Drive Time - Know the Enemy: Jacksonville Jaguars 0:00:00.360 --> 0:00:08.000 Factors are as Patrick, what a win for this Miami 0:00:08.039 --> 0:00:13.640 Dolphin team? Wow? What is up? Dolphans? And welcome to 0:00:13.640 --> 0:00:17.520 the Drive Time Podcast, part of the Miami Dolphins official 0:00:17.600 --> 0:00:22.040 podcast network, covering your Miami Dolphins each and every day. 0:00:22.079 --> 0:00:25.800 How is it going everybody? I am your host, Travis Wingfield, 0:00:25.880 --> 0:00:28.160 and I am here to bring you your daily dose 0:00:28.400 --> 0:00:32.080 of Miami Dolphins football. And on today's show, we continue 0:00:32.159 --> 0:00:35.159 the summer No the Enemy series as we take a 0:00:35.159 --> 0:00:38.920 look at Miami's Week three opponent, the lone primetime game 0:00:38.960 --> 0:00:41.919 on the schedule this year up in Duval as the 0:00:41.920 --> 0:00:45.760 Finns travel to Jacksonville for a Thursday night affair on 0:00:45.840 --> 0:00:50.520 September on NFL Network. And to help us get acquainted 0:00:50.720 --> 0:00:54.440 with the version of our in state in conference rivals, 0:00:54.680 --> 0:00:58.480 is John Oser of Jaguars dot Com, Is Gardner Minshow 0:00:58.560 --> 0:01:01.840 Go Kogs? The long term answer at quarterback? Will Jacksonville 0:01:01.880 --> 0:01:04.440 still be a black and blue style of football team? 0:01:04.600 --> 0:01:07.680 How will the pair of first round rookies on defense 0:01:07.920 --> 0:01:10.720 fit into that defense? All of that and more on 0:01:10.760 --> 0:01:18.120 this Thursday, June edition of the Drivetime Podcast. And I've 0:01:18.120 --> 0:01:20.200 mentioned us a few times now here on the show. 0:01:20.400 --> 0:01:23.440 On the Drivetime Podcast. But I always love using this 0:01:23.520 --> 0:01:27.039 portion of the calendar to sharpen the sword with regards 0:01:27.200 --> 0:01:29.399 to the other thirty one teams around the league, and 0:01:29.480 --> 0:01:33.839 in particular the thirteen opponents on the Dolphin slate getting 0:01:33.840 --> 0:01:36.399 into the film seeing how the Finns match up in 0:01:36.480 --> 0:01:39.160 that game to be all that fun stuff. And now 0:01:39.319 --> 0:01:42.880 with Drivetime we have the benefit of talking to those 0:01:42.959 --> 0:01:46.640 most in the know with those respective franchises. We've done 0:01:46.680 --> 0:01:49.320 New England with Evan Lazar of c l n S 0:01:49.360 --> 0:01:52.360 Media in Boston. That was two weeks ago. Last week 0:01:52.520 --> 0:01:55.800 we had Sal Capaccio of w g R and the 0:01:55.800 --> 0:01:59.160 official Buffalo Bill sideline reporter there for the Bills to 0:01:59.200 --> 0:02:01.560 help us get in dated with two a f C 0:02:01.760 --> 0:02:04.840 East rivals here in division. But now we shift to 0:02:05.040 --> 0:02:08.680 more of a geographical rival as we welcome in John 0:02:08.720 --> 0:02:12.480 Oser of Jaguars dot Com and buckling in and writing 0:02:12.520 --> 0:02:15.800 Shotgun Now on the Drive Time Podcast is John Oshan. 0:02:16.120 --> 0:02:18.520 He's a senior writer at Jaguars dot Com and the 0:02:18.520 --> 0:02:22.600 host of the Ozone podcast on the Jaguars Podcast Network. John, 0:02:22.800 --> 0:02:26.360 welcome in, my friend. Thanks really good to be here. 0:02:26.360 --> 0:02:28.399 I appreciate you having me on. Yeah, We're looking forward 0:02:28.440 --> 0:02:30.480 to that Week three game here and joining up with 0:02:30.520 --> 0:02:33.480 you guys in Jacksonville for a primetime game the Dolphins 0:02:33.520 --> 0:02:35.760 Week three opponent. But first I want to ask you, 0:02:35.960 --> 0:02:40.239 how is this unique offseason treating you so far? John Well, 0:02:40.320 --> 0:02:43.080 I think it's like anybody you know. I Uh, I 0:02:43.160 --> 0:02:47.239 worked in newspapers for five, six, seven years before. I've 0:02:47.760 --> 0:02:50.280 envy in the NFL for about twenties, So in my 0:02:50.320 --> 0:02:52.600 newspaper days, I worked virtually a lot. I think that's 0:02:52.639 --> 0:02:55.520 what everybody's sort of getting used to. Um. In terms 0:02:55.520 --> 0:02:58.560 of the team, I think I think it's like everybody. Uh. 0:02:58.560 --> 0:03:01.519 They're answers to get him the feel and they realized 0:03:01.560 --> 0:03:04.119 that there's a limit to what this virtual of off 0:03:04.160 --> 0:03:07.240 season with the white board meetings and everything can do. 0:03:07.840 --> 0:03:10.040 But the Jaguars feel like they've gotten a lot out 0:03:10.040 --> 0:03:13.239 of it. Uh. They're a young team, but the question 0:03:13.320 --> 0:03:15.000 is going to be how much can they translate that 0:03:15.080 --> 0:03:18.280 to the field once when an IF training camp gets go. 0:03:18.639 --> 0:03:20.720 And to me, one of the more fascinating teams in 0:03:20.720 --> 0:03:22.600 the league right now because maybe they're a team in 0:03:22.600 --> 0:03:25.600 a period of possible transition, but they also have an 0:03:25.639 --> 0:03:27.720 old head of the coach at the head coaching position. 0:03:27.919 --> 0:03:30.040 Let's go ahead and start there with Doug Brown, who 0:03:30.160 --> 0:03:33.120 enters what is probably a pretty critical year number four. 0:03:33.320 --> 0:03:35.440 What are the expectations of him and what does he 0:03:35.520 --> 0:03:37.920 have to do to kind of get this team back 0:03:37.960 --> 0:03:39.720 on the track that it was on where it was 0:03:39.800 --> 0:03:42.280 just one quarter away from playing in the Super Bowl 0:03:42.400 --> 0:03:47.080 in that season. Well, it's always hard to set expectations 0:03:47.120 --> 0:03:49.000 in terms of a number before the season. There's so 0:03:49.080 --> 0:03:52.960 much that can go on during the season. Two know change. 0:03:53.080 --> 0:03:56.120 What's the reality of that. But they believe they have 0:03:56.200 --> 0:03:59.600 a young team, uh, with a lot of talent, and 0:03:59.720 --> 0:04:01.760 it's it's gonna be a matter of how quickly can 0:04:01.800 --> 0:04:06.120 they get the experience needed to compete to make plays 0:04:06.240 --> 0:04:10.120 late in games. Doug's excited about the fact that it's 0:04:10.120 --> 0:04:12.040 a young team and he believes it's a talented team 0:04:12.040 --> 0:04:15.360 that's gonna be hungry. They have parted ways with a 0:04:15.360 --> 0:04:17.960 lot of older guys. They feel like they now have 0:04:18.040 --> 0:04:22.160 a good locker room. Uh. You get the idea, and 0:04:22.839 --> 0:04:24.800 I would expect some of the Dolphins coaches to feel 0:04:24.800 --> 0:04:27.719 something about their team. You get the idea that the 0:04:27.800 --> 0:04:32.520 coaches are excited about what they're going in to gain 0:04:32.680 --> 0:04:35.080 with what they're going into the season with. They are 0:04:35.120 --> 0:04:39.160 looking forward to seeing these guys grow. At the same time, 0:04:39.200 --> 0:04:41.480 whenever you use a phrase like seeing guys grow in 0:04:41.520 --> 0:04:45.000 the NFL, it implies a lot of rookie mistakes. There's 0:04:45.040 --> 0:04:48.000 a lot of learning curve. I think there's gonna be 0:04:48.080 --> 0:04:51.080 one for the Jaguars this year. What that means for 0:04:51.120 --> 0:04:53.040 how they treat the coaching staff after the season, I'm 0:04:53.080 --> 0:04:56.240 not sure, but they certainly believe that they have a 0:04:56.279 --> 0:04:59.039 young team that's better than people think. Yeah, we don't 0:04:59.040 --> 0:05:00.560 have to look far here in my AAMI to see 0:05:00.560 --> 0:05:02.080 how much you can go as far as what you 0:05:02.120 --> 0:05:05.240 look like in September compared to December. Obviously, the plan 0:05:05.320 --> 0:05:07.200 there is to grow and get better as the year 0:05:07.240 --> 0:05:09.919 goes along for all thirty two teams. And you mentioned 0:05:09.920 --> 0:05:11.719 the other coaches on the staff that I want to 0:05:11.720 --> 0:05:13.880 start here when over your Twitter timeline a little bit 0:05:13.960 --> 0:05:16.160 checked out some of your work. Saw your recent post 0:05:16.200 --> 0:05:19.560 with Todd wash and the one gap defense, single high 0:05:19.640 --> 0:05:22.680 safety and playing some more manned defense on that back end. 0:05:22.680 --> 0:05:25.360 I'm curious for you are the two rookies and Calevan 0:05:25.480 --> 0:05:28.640 Chason and C. J. Henderson the first the two first 0:05:28.720 --> 0:05:31.760 round picks, are they kind of the drivers of that idea? 0:05:31.960 --> 0:05:35.680 And what was that defense gonna look like under Todd Wash? Yeah, 0:05:35.800 --> 0:05:39.880 it's uh, I think Chasan maybe a little bit more. 0:05:39.960 --> 0:05:43.520 I mean c J. Henderson. They needed cornerbacks because they 0:05:43.560 --> 0:05:45.920 traded Jalen Ramsey and they traded J. J. Boys. They 0:05:45.960 --> 0:05:48.520 just needed to get there. How they play back, they're 0:05:48.560 --> 0:05:52.840 probably gonna change a whole lot. They What they run 0:05:53.000 --> 0:05:55.960 here is basically the Seattle scheme, which is sort of 0:05:55.960 --> 0:05:59.200 a hybrid for three, three four. It's been more for 0:05:59.560 --> 0:06:02.640 three in the last you know, five six, seven years. 0:06:03.400 --> 0:06:06.600 Todd WASH's point is it's gonna remain a four three, 0:06:06.920 --> 0:06:11.239 but they now have linebackers like Chason, They have Cassius Marsh, 0:06:11.360 --> 0:06:13.680 Josh Allen and a unique and got Way who are 0:06:13.720 --> 0:06:17.800 holdovers if you will, from before also have the ability 0:06:17.839 --> 0:06:21.080 to play end then linebacker. So their point is it's 0:06:21.120 --> 0:06:23.640 gonna look on paper a little like a three four 0:06:23.680 --> 0:06:27.279 because you're gonna have linebackers playing with their hands down sometimes, 0:06:27.320 --> 0:06:31.160 but overall it's still a one gap get to the 0:06:31.240 --> 0:06:35.880 quarterback penetrate. It's not your standard three four with three 0:06:35.920 --> 0:06:38.320 big space eaters up front who aren't trying to penetrate. 0:06:38.440 --> 0:06:41.920 So the big story with the defense is it's gonna 0:06:41.960 --> 0:06:43.919 have much more looks up front than it has in 0:06:43.960 --> 0:06:47.960 the past. And they believe overall they're gonna be better 0:06:48.000 --> 0:06:51.240 against the run. They were. They had five games last 0:06:51.320 --> 0:06:54.440 year where they allowed two d more yards rushing. They 0:06:54.520 --> 0:06:58.480 lost all five. It defined their season when they slipped 0:06:58.480 --> 0:07:01.480 from playoff contention at four forwards out of the playoffs. 0:07:01.800 --> 0:07:03.920 They believe they are a better run defense and that's 0:07:03.920 --> 0:07:06.200 really what their theme is defensively, and you get those 0:07:06.240 --> 0:07:08.279 run stops to set up your pass rushers and get 0:07:08.279 --> 0:07:10.840 big time situations there. And I thought last year the 0:07:10.840 --> 0:07:13.280 biggest deal of the draft was the Jags getting Josh 0:07:13.320 --> 0:07:16.200 Allen at number six overall. Probably thought he should have 0:07:16.200 --> 0:07:18.440 gone higher than that in that year's draft. And we 0:07:18.480 --> 0:07:21.480 saw him firsthand in the preseason last year, just wreck 0:07:21.560 --> 0:07:24.720 shop on the defensive line for the Jaguars. Was he 0:07:25.320 --> 0:07:28.680 build as advertised? He exceed expectations. What did you guys 0:07:28.680 --> 0:07:31.920 think of Josh Allen in that rookie year? It was 0:07:32.000 --> 0:07:35.160 big time. It would have been interesting to see what 0:07:35.400 --> 0:07:37.360 his numbers would have been had they been able to 0:07:37.360 --> 0:07:40.080 stop the run because in this league's you know, it's 0:07:40.120 --> 0:07:43.160 hard to rush the passer in third and one or 0:07:43.240 --> 0:07:47.239 second and three. They weren't in very many pure pass 0:07:47.360 --> 0:07:50.760 rush they didn't lead at Layton games where you compile 0:07:50.800 --> 0:07:52.400 a lot of sacks, he still had ten and a half. 0:07:53.080 --> 0:07:57.080 So he's the real deal. I hate, I hate to 0:07:57.120 --> 0:07:59.720 compare him to von Miller because that's the gold standards. 0:07:59.720 --> 0:08:02.760 Hardly up to that. If they believe he's that build 0:08:02.800 --> 0:08:07.720 around guy that you need, he he's high character. He's 0:08:07.720 --> 0:08:09.720 a guy that you wanted to cover your media guy 0:08:09.760 --> 0:08:14.440 for fifteen years. He's that guy. And uh yeah, he 0:08:14.560 --> 0:08:17.960 played to that level, which is hard to do on 0:08:18.000 --> 0:08:21.480 a struggling defense as a rookie. It's hard to get stats. 0:08:21.520 --> 0:08:24.679 It's hard to be dominant when your defense is always 0:08:24.680 --> 0:08:27.600 behind and in bad situations. He found a way to 0:08:27.640 --> 0:08:31.280 produce in that situation. If the defense is good around him, 0:08:31.600 --> 0:08:34.120 he can really be good. And that's really all he's 0:08:34.120 --> 0:08:37.480 done his entire football life. Going back to Kentucky was 0:08:37.559 --> 0:08:40.400 produced Saxon produced quarterback pressures. I want to get back 0:08:40.400 --> 0:08:42.160 to the defense here in just one second, but we 0:08:42.240 --> 0:08:45.440 mentioned the possible star power of Josh Allen and I 0:08:45.480 --> 0:08:47.800 think on the offensive staff, you guys went out and 0:08:47.880 --> 0:08:51.320 hired one of the biggest star names offensive coordinator, and 0:08:51.360 --> 0:08:54.560 I'm curious what you think a potential adaptation of his 0:08:54.600 --> 0:08:57.320 scheme and Jacksonville could look like. Are we gonna see 0:08:57.400 --> 0:09:00.480 a bit of a departure from the black an Blue 0:09:00.480 --> 0:09:03.400 style of team that Tom Coughlin built and go more 0:09:03.480 --> 0:09:07.480 towards a j Gruden style offense? Well, yeah, I think 0:09:07.520 --> 0:09:10.400 anytime you bring in Jay Gruden with the West Coast offense, 0:09:10.480 --> 0:09:15.240 it's going to be you're going to have more passing 0:09:15.440 --> 0:09:19.840 short to supplement your run game than you are just 0:09:19.960 --> 0:09:22.920 driving right at the right at the defense. So I 0:09:22.960 --> 0:09:26.840 think you're gonna see a change there. Uh. It's the 0:09:26.920 --> 0:09:30.320 key to this season for the Jaguars is Gardner Minshew. 0:09:30.960 --> 0:09:34.200 He showed signs last year of being pretty good. He 0:09:34.320 --> 0:09:38.120 also showed signs of really struggling the way rookie quarterbacks do. 0:09:38.760 --> 0:09:41.640 So they're giving him the ball. It's his team for 0:09:41.679 --> 0:09:44.640 at least a year. And how he adapts this West 0:09:44.679 --> 0:09:49.280 Coast offense, how he learns to be better from the pocket, 0:09:50.080 --> 0:09:52.520 is really what he needs to do. He's got a 0:09:52.559 --> 0:09:55.920 certain magic to him that is hard to describe because 0:09:55.920 --> 0:09:58.840 he makes plays at the end of games. So really 0:09:59.080 --> 0:10:04.439 how Jake comes in. Jay's big on creating mismatches by 0:10:04.520 --> 0:10:07.360 moving his skill receivers around. And they think they've got 0:10:07.360 --> 0:10:12.079 guys like that in rookie Uh, they like DJ Shark. 0:10:12.160 --> 0:10:15.200 They believe they're tight ends are better, so they believe 0:10:15.240 --> 0:10:17.320 that they can create some things for Gardeners. Maybe weren't 0:10:17.360 --> 0:10:20.760 created last year, but it all comes down to Gardener Menshew. Yeah, 0:10:20.760 --> 0:10:22.520 I think my daughter was a little bit upset down 0:10:22.520 --> 0:10:24.360 in the background that I didn't lead off with Gardner 0:10:24.360 --> 0:10:26.959 Menshew because we are Washington State Cougar family here. I 0:10:27.000 --> 0:10:28.800 don't know if you heard her crying. She's having a 0:10:28.920 --> 0:10:31.760 rough afternoon today. The wife is trying to get her back, 0:10:32.000 --> 0:10:33.640 uh settled and under control here. But I want to 0:10:33.679 --> 0:10:36.000 go back to Gardner Minshew because, first off, go Coug's 0:10:36.160 --> 0:10:38.400 But second you mentioned the stats and kind of the 0:10:38.440 --> 0:10:40.720 way he played up to that that magic level. We 0:10:40.760 --> 0:10:43.760 saw it every week here on the polos in Washington State, 0:10:44.080 --> 0:10:47.720 and he had twenty touchdowns last year, six interceptions, like 0:10:47.760 --> 0:10:51.000 the game winning drives, the fourth quarter comebacks, that locker 0:10:51.080 --> 0:10:54.720 room mentality, I recall Jim Naggy the director of the 0:10:54.760 --> 0:10:57.520 Reese's Senior Bowl down there and Mobile and friend of 0:10:57.559 --> 0:11:01.000 the Drivetime podcast, and he talked about that ideal backup 0:11:01.120 --> 0:11:04.280 quarterback mentality that Gardner Minshew has. The guy that can 0:11:04.280 --> 0:11:06.839 come in and galvanize the huddle and get guys to 0:11:06.880 --> 0:11:10.240 really play above their means because he has that infectious personality, 0:11:10.320 --> 0:11:13.040 kind of a Ryan Fitzpatrick type of personality. But we 0:11:13.080 --> 0:11:15.000 saw him come in last year and do that as 0:11:15.040 --> 0:11:18.120 a starter, which you wouldn't expect as a sixth round rookie. 0:11:18.280 --> 0:11:20.240 I just want to have you go further on Gardner 0:11:20.240 --> 0:11:22.360 Minshew here, because what does this guy have to do 0:11:22.400 --> 0:11:25.160 to stave off a potential high pick maybe taking his job, 0:11:26.360 --> 0:11:28.559 and what are the expectations for him this year? Does 0:11:28.559 --> 0:11:32.599 he improve upon those rookie stats last season? Well, he 0:11:32.679 --> 0:11:35.719 has to um and it's the only thing in the 0:11:35.800 --> 0:11:37.920 NFL no matter how you get there, you gotta win. 0:11:38.160 --> 0:11:42.480 And even though the talent based around him most people 0:11:42.520 --> 0:11:45.000 wouldn't think was as high is on some teams, I mean, 0:11:45.080 --> 0:11:48.440 because it's young here. But in order to be the 0:11:48.440 --> 0:11:52.640 guy going forward, he has to maintain the magic because, 0:11:52.640 --> 0:11:55.199 as you know, being a Washington State fan, he's got 0:11:55.240 --> 0:11:57.600 something when it comes to leadership, when it comes to 0:11:57.640 --> 0:11:59.679 what he can do at the end of games is 0:11:59.760 --> 0:12:03.600 poor ways is remarkable. He never gives up all that stuff, 0:12:03.600 --> 0:12:06.960 all the tangibles you love. At the same time, there 0:12:06.960 --> 0:12:11.600 were some stretches last year where it looked like defenses 0:12:11.640 --> 0:12:14.920 had figured out what he was and there were some 0:12:15.000 --> 0:12:19.120 games where he really struggled, and at the same time, 0:12:19.280 --> 0:12:21.120 at the end of the season he came off of 0:12:21.120 --> 0:12:23.120 that a little bit, meaning he had an awful half 0:12:23.120 --> 0:12:26.400 against Oakland in week fifteen, I think it was out there, 0:12:27.000 --> 0:12:28.679 but then came back in the fourth quarter and let 0:12:28.679 --> 0:12:30.480 it come from behind when that was the last game 0:12:30.480 --> 0:12:34.280 in the black hole. Add game in week sixteen, but 0:12:34.320 --> 0:12:36.080 then he came back with a really good game in 0:12:36.120 --> 0:12:37.960 week seventeen. So he won two out of his last 0:12:38.000 --> 0:12:42.040 three after being banster on the on the bench, behind folds, 0:12:42.040 --> 0:12:46.520 whatever you call it. So you know, because it's a 0:12:46.559 --> 0:12:49.200 one year window, it's tough to figure out what he is. 0:12:49.760 --> 0:12:54.120 They believe that the magic that he has can be 0:12:54.280 --> 0:12:58.480 coupled with a second year jump learning to work from 0:12:58.520 --> 0:13:01.240 the pocket a little better. That's really the big thing 0:13:01.280 --> 0:13:04.880 on him. So many of his plays last year were 0:13:04.920 --> 0:13:08.440 off schedule outside the pocket. It's hard to win in 0:13:08.480 --> 0:13:12.120 the NFL if your game is based on that. How 0:13:12.200 --> 0:13:15.120 he plays from the pocket, whether he can cut out 0:13:15.360 --> 0:13:18.600 the inconsistency, that will determine what he is going forward, 0:13:18.600 --> 0:13:21.400 because if he does those things in the team's record's 0:13:21.400 --> 0:13:23.400 gonna be a lot better way to do what most 0:13:23.400 --> 0:13:25.760 of ever think it is doing. Those things will take 0:13:25.800 --> 0:13:28.680 care of whatever problems there are. You mentioned the magic factor, 0:13:28.720 --> 0:13:30.760 and I definitely saw that, you know, talk about going 0:13:30.800 --> 0:13:32.760 back to Washington State. Saw that all the time. But 0:13:32.800 --> 0:13:35.320 I also thought he was so strong and poison the 0:13:35.320 --> 0:13:37.520 way he played within the structure of the offense there 0:13:37.760 --> 0:13:40.240 in that Mike Leach offense, and the way he processed 0:13:40.240 --> 0:13:43.000 and anticipated. That's why I just thought so highly of him, 0:13:43.040 --> 0:13:45.560 even as a w s U fan alumni. It just 0:13:45.920 --> 0:13:47.680 I could see it was different than the year before 0:13:47.679 --> 0:13:50.520 with Luke Falk, who had broken the pack twelve passing 0:13:50.520 --> 0:13:52.839 record all time there. So not to get too far 0:13:52.920 --> 0:13:55.200 into a Pac twelve rabbit hole here, but I just 0:13:55.520 --> 0:13:57.760 I think the world of Gardner Minshew and last year 0:13:57.800 --> 0:13:59.480 I actually went to the game against U C. L A. 0:13:59.480 --> 0:14:01.800 It was it was a horrible thirty eight point comeback 0:14:02.000 --> 0:14:04.640 for the Bruins. We had to sit there and watch 0:14:04.720 --> 0:14:07.320 this entire thing collapse. But Gardner was there for the 0:14:07.360 --> 0:14:10.120 game back after. I think kind of his Thursday night 0:14:10.800 --> 0:14:12.959 arrival against the Titans in that big win they had 0:14:13.040 --> 0:14:15.720 last season. He was there in the cut high gene shorts, 0:14:15.760 --> 0:14:18.920 the Washington State baseball jersey, getting the crowd pumped up. 0:14:18.920 --> 0:14:22.440 It was seventeen. Everybody's happy, and then the wheels fell 0:14:22.480 --> 0:14:24.960 off and things went backwards the other direction. I think 0:14:24.960 --> 0:14:27.400 he left the game at halftime, and I'm blaming it 0:14:27.480 --> 0:14:30.040 on his absence there in the second half. But all 0:14:30.120 --> 0:14:32.800 jokes aside here. As high as I think of Gardner Minshew, 0:14:32.840 --> 0:14:35.640 I think there was one even more clear strength of 0:14:35.960 --> 0:14:38.360 this football team here for the Jacksonville Jaguars, and it's 0:14:38.400 --> 0:14:41.240 the offensive line. I've always been a big Brandon Lindor fan. 0:14:41.480 --> 0:14:44.080 I think Jowan. I liked Jowan Taylor and Cam Robinson 0:14:44.120 --> 0:14:46.240 coming out. You've got the big money guy in Andrew 0:14:46.280 --> 0:14:49.360 Norwell and then a j can there on a second contract. 0:14:49.440 --> 0:14:53.240 Are they gonna build this offense around that offensive line? 0:14:52.520 --> 0:14:58.960 The story? Because yeah, there are talented guys there and 0:14:59.200 --> 0:15:02.280 it's got a it's to be a really good group. Uh, 0:15:02.320 --> 0:15:05.080 it hasn't always as a group in the last couple 0:15:05.080 --> 0:15:08.280 of years played to that level. For whatever reason. Cam 0:15:08.440 --> 0:15:10.040 Robinson last year was coming off of an a c 0:15:10.240 --> 0:15:13.800 L that he sustained in eighteen that seemed to limit 0:15:13.880 --> 0:15:17.320 him a little bit. The big key for this offensive line, 0:15:17.360 --> 0:15:20.400 they believe, is that he will be healthy. Andrew norwell, 0:15:20.480 --> 0:15:22.280 as he says, a high price free agent, He's had 0:15:22.320 --> 0:15:25.720 some inconsistencies how the offensive line plays, and this is 0:15:25.720 --> 0:15:28.000 true of any NFL team pretty much. But if this 0:15:28.080 --> 0:15:32.160 offensive line can play to its potential, then yeah, the 0:15:32.160 --> 0:15:33.880 the offense is a whole will be much much better 0:15:34.240 --> 0:15:38.000 because again, they like DJ Tarkt receiver, they liked Schanalto receiver. 0:15:38.400 --> 0:15:40.680 They feel like they've got some weapons if they can 0:15:40.720 --> 0:15:42.880 get into the good down and distances, which usually is 0:15:42.880 --> 0:15:45.120 the offensive line play. And how about the guy that 0:15:45.160 --> 0:15:47.360 they're gonna be blocking for in that backfield, a former 0:15:47.400 --> 0:15:49.520 top five pick there and Leonard fur Nett has the 0:15:49.520 --> 0:15:51.840 big rookie season, kind of a step back, misses some 0:15:51.920 --> 0:15:53.960 games in year two, and then I think last year 0:15:54.000 --> 0:15:56.920 people maybe forgot how productive he was in another one 0:15:56.960 --> 0:15:59.960 thousand yards season. Is that kind of the expectation for him. 0:16:00.120 --> 0:16:02.880 What's his long term future looking like they're in Jacksonville. Yeah, 0:16:02.920 --> 0:16:07.520 he's a He's a guy that was rumored to be 0:16:07.720 --> 0:16:10.720 on the trade block right before the draft, which that 0:16:10.840 --> 0:16:13.040 seems to be sort of a common story with a 0:16:13.040 --> 0:16:15.800 lot of running backs these days because teams don't always 0:16:15.800 --> 0:16:19.000 sign these guys the long term deals. But for two, 0:16:20.160 --> 0:16:22.640 the Jaguars believe that for Nette is a huge part 0:16:22.680 --> 0:16:25.640 of their offense. Obviously, they believe he's an eleven twelve 0:16:25.680 --> 0:16:29.560 hundred yard guy when things are going right. Last year 0:16:30.320 --> 0:16:34.560 at mid season before the run defense sort of went away, 0:16:35.000 --> 0:16:37.200 for Nette was on pace for about a hundred yards 0:16:37.240 --> 0:16:39.760 season when the offense was built around him, when things 0:16:39.760 --> 0:16:43.120 were going well. If the Jaguars are good, and if 0:16:43.120 --> 0:16:46.400 the Jaguars are playing in other areas well, then for 0:16:46.560 --> 0:16:49.760 Nette has a chance to be a yard rusher. And 0:16:49.760 --> 0:16:51.520 he's a better receiver than people give him credit for 0:16:51.560 --> 0:16:54.720 as well. He's definitely a big, physical, bruising style of back. 0:16:54.760 --> 0:16:56.920 And you mentioned earlier in the podcast that stopping the 0:16:57.000 --> 0:16:58.960 run was kind of the focus on the defensive side 0:16:58.960 --> 0:17:01.560 of the ball. That can only help Leonard Fournette in 0:17:01.960 --> 0:17:04.400 terms of getting more carries, more touches, and being more 0:17:04.400 --> 0:17:06.840 productive on the offensive side. Let's go ahead and talk 0:17:06.840 --> 0:17:09.000 about how they're gonna stop the run on defense, though, 0:17:09.040 --> 0:17:12.400 because gone is Klaius Campbell. I'm curious to have your 0:17:12.440 --> 0:17:15.560 opinion here about what replaces Calais on the inside. We 0:17:15.600 --> 0:17:18.359 know about Tavan Brian there staying in the state of Florida. 0:17:18.440 --> 0:17:21.600 Here coming from Florida to Jacksonville talking about this Dolphins 0:17:21.640 --> 0:17:24.440 Jaguars rivalry and state. Is he kind of the guy 0:17:24.440 --> 0:17:26.040 that has to step up and take those shoes of 0:17:26.080 --> 0:17:29.640 Klaias Campbell. Yeah, he has to play better. I mean 0:17:30.359 --> 0:17:33.560 as a first round pick, he's been inconsistent. I wouldn't 0:17:33.600 --> 0:17:36.000 say that he's going to replace Klaius. I would say 0:17:36.000 --> 0:17:39.680 it's more. Uh. They went out and signed Joe Schobert 0:17:39.680 --> 0:17:42.119 as a free agent from Cleveland, who maybe a lot 0:17:42.160 --> 0:17:46.040 of people don't realize, Uh, it is a good player 0:17:46.400 --> 0:17:49.760 who will allow the Jaguars to move Miles Jack from 0:17:49.760 --> 0:17:53.640 the middle to the outside. They think their linebacker corps 0:17:53.640 --> 0:17:56.119 will be much better because of that. And they also 0:17:56.200 --> 0:17:59.440 focused on shoring up the defensive interior, meaning they went 0:17:59.440 --> 0:18:01.720 out and draft to Divon Hamilton the third round. From 0:18:01.720 --> 0:18:07.720 Ohio State. They signed Rodney Gunter from Arizona, who's an 0:18:07.800 --> 0:18:11.359 underrated guy. Al Woods from Seattle, also an underrated guy. 0:18:11.680 --> 0:18:14.000 They tried to get more numbers where they can have 0:18:14.000 --> 0:18:19.720 a better rotation inside on the interior. They believe overall 0:18:19.840 --> 0:18:22.080 that if they're better on the interior of the defense, 0:18:22.400 --> 0:18:24.400 they're gonna be able to rush the past or they're 0:18:24.400 --> 0:18:26.600 gonna be fine on the edge, which is where Campbell played. 0:18:26.760 --> 0:18:30.240 They've got Josh Allen, They've got Chason, They've got guys 0:18:30.280 --> 0:18:32.600 who can play on the outside. They need to get 0:18:32.600 --> 0:18:34.680 better from the interior the defense, and they feel like 0:18:34.760 --> 0:18:37.200 those additions we just talked about that they have. Yeah, 0:18:37.240 --> 0:18:39.760 Devon Hamilton's with my favorite picks the entire draft. I 0:18:39.760 --> 0:18:41.680 thought he was just he showed up on tape every 0:18:41.720 --> 0:18:43.960 time you watch Ohio State and then again at the 0:18:43.960 --> 0:18:46.240 Senior Bowl. Good looking player there to steal in the 0:18:46.240 --> 0:18:48.680 middle rounds of the draft this year, we talked about 0:18:48.720 --> 0:18:50.760 the first round draft picks and C. J. Henderson and 0:18:50.840 --> 0:18:53.440 Calebon Chason. I'm curious because you want to play that 0:18:53.480 --> 0:18:56.400 cover one defense, that single high safety and play man 0:18:56.400 --> 0:18:58.920 on the outside and have that version of the Seahawks 0:18:58.920 --> 0:19:01.000 cover three defense you have as well, you have to 0:19:01.040 --> 0:19:03.920 have a good second cornerback who was in the catbird seat, 0:19:03.920 --> 0:19:06.080 who's in the driver's seat to take on the other 0:19:06.160 --> 0:19:11.399 cornerback spot opposite of C. J. Henderson. Tray Herndon. He 0:19:11.400 --> 0:19:14.880 he started last year when Jalen Ramsey was traded. They 0:19:14.920 --> 0:19:17.920 believe he's a very very good number two starter. They 0:19:17.960 --> 0:19:20.560 also love d J. Hayden, who was a former top 0:19:20.640 --> 0:19:25.080 ten eleven pick who is now their nickelback. Uh. They 0:19:25.119 --> 0:19:27.080 believe he's one of the better nickelbacks in the NFL. 0:19:27.119 --> 0:19:30.560 So they feel good at corner uh, particularly if Henderson 0:19:30.600 --> 0:19:33.879 comes in and is a lockdown player, which being number 0:19:33.880 --> 0:19:35.560 three over I mean, I'm sorry, not number three, but 0:19:35.600 --> 0:19:38.320 being the number nine overall pick, he's supposed to be that. 0:19:38.400 --> 0:19:40.640 So they feel like they have good three good front 0:19:40.720 --> 0:19:44.959 line corners. Uh. The issue, of course C. J. Henderson rookie, 0:19:45.080 --> 0:19:48.400 very young, sort of translates after their whole team. How 0:19:48.600 --> 0:19:51.679 young players play and how they developed quickly is going 0:19:51.720 --> 0:19:53.760 to determine a lot about this team. Who is going 0:19:53.840 --> 0:19:55.800 to be the guy that does kind of fulfill that 0:19:55.920 --> 0:19:58.000 single high safety all the guy that has the range 0:19:58.000 --> 0:19:59.760 and kind of calls the defense. Is there a guy 0:19:59.800 --> 0:20:02.800 that's that's already kind of slotted into that position, or 0:20:02.800 --> 0:20:04.439 is it gonna be a camp battle who wants to 0:20:04.440 --> 0:20:08.399 play that single high safety spot. It's gonna be Uh. 0:20:08.440 --> 0:20:12.159 Gerard Wilson is the free safety and Ronnie Harrison is 0:20:12.160 --> 0:20:14.199 a strong safety. So I don't know that they go 0:20:14.440 --> 0:20:17.800 quite as single high safety as the city as the 0:20:17.840 --> 0:20:20.480 steep Hawks did. When they're really running this defense, they 0:20:20.560 --> 0:20:25.040 pretty much play side by side. Uh. There, guys, Ronnie 0:20:25.000 --> 0:20:26.920 Harrison's the third round pick. They believe it has a 0:20:27.000 --> 0:20:30.080