Speaker 1: Factors are as Patrick, what a win for this Miami
Speaker 1: Dolphin team? Wow? What is up? Dolphans? And welcome to
Speaker 1: the Drive Time Podcast, part of the Miami Dolphins official
Speaker 1: podcast network, covering your Miami Dolphins each and every day.
Speaker 1: How is it going everybody? I am your host, Travis Wingfield,
Speaker 1: and I am here to bring you your daily dose
Speaker 1: of Miami Dolphins football. And on today's show, we continue
Speaker 1: the summer No the Enemy series as we take a
Speaker 1: look at Miami's Week three opponent, the lone primetime game
Speaker 1: on the schedule this year up in Duval as the
Speaker 1: Finns travel to Jacksonville for a Thursday night affair on
Speaker 1: September on NFL Network. And to help us get acquainted
Speaker 1: with the version of our in state in conference rivals,
Speaker 1: is John Oser of Jaguars dot Com, Is Gardner Minshow
Speaker 1: Go Kogs? The long term answer at quarterback? Will Jacksonville
Speaker 1: still be a black and blue style of football team?
Speaker 1: How will the pair of first round rookies on defense
Speaker 1: fit into that defense? All of that and more on
Speaker 1: this Thursday, June edition of the Drivetime Podcast. And I've
Speaker 1: mentioned us a few times now here on the show.
Speaker 1: On the Drivetime Podcast. But I always love using this
Speaker 1: portion of the calendar to sharpen the sword with regards
Speaker 1: to the other thirty one teams around the league, and
Speaker 1: in particular the thirteen opponents on the Dolphin slate getting
Speaker 1: into the film seeing how the Finns match up in
Speaker 1: that game to be all that fun stuff. And now
Speaker 1: with Drivetime we have the benefit of talking to those
Speaker 1: most in the know with those respective franchises. We've done
Speaker 1: New England with Evan Lazar of c l n S
Speaker 1: Media in Boston. That was two weeks ago. Last week
Speaker 1: we had Sal Capaccio of w g R and the
Speaker 1: official Buffalo Bill sideline reporter there for the Bills to
Speaker 1: help us get in dated with two a f C
Speaker 1: East rivals here in division. But now we shift to
Speaker 1: more of a geographical rival as we welcome in John
Speaker 1: Oser of Jaguars dot Com and buckling in and writing
Speaker 1: Shotgun Now on the Drive Time Podcast is John Oshan.
Speaker 1: He's a senior writer at Jaguars dot Com and the
Speaker 1: host of the Ozone podcast on the Jaguars Podcast Network. John,
Speaker 1: welcome in, my friend. Thanks really good to be here.
Speaker 1: I appreciate you having me on. Yeah, We're looking forward
Speaker 1: to that Week three game here and joining up with
Speaker 1: you guys in Jacksonville for a primetime game the Dolphins
Speaker 1: Week three opponent. But first I want to ask you,
Speaker 1: how is this unique offseason treating you so far? John Well,
Speaker 1: I think it's like anybody you know. I Uh, I
Speaker 1: worked in newspapers for five, six, seven years before. I've
Speaker 1: envy in the NFL for about twenties, So in my
Speaker 1: newspaper days, I worked virtually a lot. I think that's
Speaker 1: what everybody's sort of getting used to. Um. In terms
Speaker 1: of the team, I think I think it's like everybody. Uh.
Speaker 1: They're answers to get him the feel and they realized
Speaker 1: that there's a limit to what this virtual of off
Speaker 1: season with the white board meetings and everything can do.
Speaker 1: But the Jaguars feel like they've gotten a lot out
Speaker 1: of it. Uh. They're a young team, but the question
Speaker 1: is going to be how much can they translate that
Speaker 1: to the field once when an IF training camp gets go.
Speaker 1: And to me, one of the more fascinating teams in
Speaker 1: the league right now because maybe they're a team in
Speaker 1: a period of possible transition, but they also have an
Speaker 1: old head of the coach at the head coaching position.
Speaker 1: Let's go ahead and start there with Doug Brown, who
Speaker 1: enters what is probably a pretty critical year number four.
Speaker 1: What are the expectations of him and what does he
Speaker 1: have to do to kind of get this team back
Speaker 1: on the track that it was on where it was
Speaker 1: just one quarter away from playing in the Super Bowl
Speaker 1: in that season. Well, it's always hard to set expectations
Speaker 1: in terms of a number before the season. There's so
Speaker 1: much that can go on during the season. Two know change.
Speaker 1: What's the reality of that. But they believe they have
Speaker 1: a young team, uh, with a lot of talent, and
Speaker 1: it's it's gonna be a matter of how quickly can
Speaker 1: they get the experience needed to compete to make plays
Speaker 1: late in games. Doug's excited about the fact that it's
Speaker 1: a young team and he believes it's a talented team
Speaker 1: that's gonna be hungry. They have parted ways with a
Speaker 1: lot of older guys. They feel like they now have
Speaker 1: a good locker room. Uh. You get the idea, and
Speaker 1: I would expect some of the Dolphins coaches to feel
Speaker 1: something about their team. You get the idea that the
Speaker 1: coaches are excited about what they're going in to gain
Speaker 1: with what they're going into the season with. They are
Speaker 1: looking forward to seeing these guys grow. At the same time,
Speaker 1: whenever you use a phrase like seeing guys grow in
Speaker 1: the NFL, it implies a lot of rookie mistakes. There's
Speaker 1: a lot of learning curve. I think there's gonna be
Speaker 1: one for the Jaguars this year. What that means for
Speaker 1: how they treat the coaching staff after the season, I'm
Speaker 1: not sure, but they certainly believe that they have a
Speaker 1: young team that's better than people think. Yeah, we don't
Speaker 1: have to look far here in my AAMI to see
Speaker 1: how much you can go as far as what you
Speaker 1: look like in September compared to December. Obviously, the plan
Speaker 1: there is to grow and get better as the year
Speaker 1: goes along for all thirty two teams. And you mentioned
Speaker 1: the other coaches on the staff that I want to
Speaker 1: start here when over your Twitter timeline a little bit
Speaker 1: checked out some of your work. Saw your recent post
Speaker 1: with Todd wash and the one gap defense, single high
Speaker 1: safety and playing some more manned defense on that back end.
Speaker 1: I'm curious for you are the two rookies and Calevan
Speaker 1: Chason and C. J. Henderson the first the two first
Speaker 1: round picks, are they kind of the drivers of that idea?
Speaker 1: And what was that defense gonna look like under Todd Wash? Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's uh, I think Chasan maybe a little bit more.
Speaker 1: I mean c J. Henderson. They needed cornerbacks because they
Speaker 1: traded Jalen Ramsey and they traded J. J. Boys. They
Speaker 1: just needed to get there. How they play back, they're
Speaker 1: probably gonna change a whole lot. They What they run
Speaker 1: here is basically the Seattle scheme, which is sort of
Speaker 1: a hybrid for three, three four. It's been more for
Speaker 1: three in the last you know, five six, seven years.
Speaker 1: Todd WASH's point is it's gonna remain a four three,
Speaker 1: but they now have linebackers like Chason, They have Cassius Marsh,
Speaker 1: Josh Allen and a unique and got Way who are
Speaker 1: holdovers if you will, from before also have the ability
Speaker 1: to play end then linebacker. So their point is it's
Speaker 1: gonna look on paper a little like a three four
Speaker 1: because you're gonna have linebackers playing with their hands down sometimes,
Speaker 1: but overall it's still a one gap get to the
Speaker 1: quarterback penetrate. It's not your standard three four with three
Speaker 1: big space eaters up front who aren't trying to penetrate.
Speaker 1: So the big story with the defense is it's gonna
Speaker 1: have much more looks up front than it has in
Speaker 1: the past. And they believe overall they're gonna be better
Speaker 1: against the run. They were. They had five games last
Speaker 1: year where they allowed two d more yards rushing. They
Speaker 1: lost all five. It defined their season when they slipped
Speaker 1: from playoff contention at four forwards out of the playoffs.
Speaker 1: They believe they are a better run defense and that's
Speaker 1: really what their theme is defensively, and you get those
Speaker 1: run stops to set up your pass rushers and get
Speaker 1: big time situations there. And I thought last year the
Speaker 1: biggest deal of the draft was the Jags getting Josh
Speaker 1: Allen at number six overall. Probably thought he should have
Speaker 1: gone higher than that in that year's draft. And we
Speaker 1: saw him firsthand in the preseason last year, just wreck
Speaker 1: shop on the defensive line for the Jaguars. Was he
Speaker 1: build as advertised? He exceed expectations. What did you guys
Speaker 1: think of Josh Allen in that rookie year? It was
Speaker 1: big time. It would have been interesting to see what
Speaker 1: his numbers would have been had they been able to
Speaker 1: stop the run because in this league's you know, it's
Speaker 1: hard to rush the passer in third and one or
Speaker 1: second and three. They weren't in very many pure pass
Speaker 1: rush they didn't lead at Layton games where you compile
Speaker 1: a lot of sacks, he still had ten and a half.
Speaker 1: So he's the real deal. I hate, I hate to
Speaker 1: compare him to von Miller because that's the gold standards.
Speaker 1: Hardly up to that. If they believe he's that build
Speaker 1: around guy that you need, he he's high character. He's
Speaker 1: a guy that you wanted to cover your media guy
Speaker 1: for fifteen years. He's that guy. And uh yeah, he
Speaker 1: played to that level, which is hard to do on
Speaker 1: a struggling defense as a rookie. It's hard to get stats.
Speaker 1: It's hard to be dominant when your defense is always
Speaker 1: behind and in bad situations. He found a way to
Speaker 1: produce in that situation. If the defense is good around him,
Speaker 1: he can really be good. And that's really all he's
Speaker 1: done his entire football life. Going back to Kentucky was
Speaker 1: produced Saxon produced quarterback pressures. I want to get back
Speaker 1: to the defense here in just one second, but we
Speaker 1: mentioned the possible star power of Josh Allen and I
Speaker 1: think on the offensive staff, you guys went out and
Speaker 1: hired one of the biggest star names offensive coordinator, and
Speaker 1: I'm curious what you think a potential adaptation of his
Speaker 1: scheme and Jacksonville could look like. Are we gonna see
Speaker 1: a bit of a departure from the black an Blue
Speaker 1: style of team that Tom Coughlin built and go more
Speaker 1: towards a j Gruden style offense? Well, yeah, I think
Speaker 1: anytime you bring in Jay Gruden with the West Coast offense,
Speaker 1: it's going to be you're going to have more passing
Speaker 1: short to supplement your run game than you are just
Speaker 1: driving right at the right at the defense. So I
Speaker 1: think you're gonna see a change there. Uh. It's the
Speaker 1: key to this season for the Jaguars is Gardner Minshew.
Speaker 1: He showed signs last year of being pretty good. He
Speaker 1: also showed signs of really struggling the way rookie quarterbacks do.
Speaker 1: So they're giving him the ball. It's his team for
Speaker 1: at least a year. And how he adapts this West
Speaker 1: Coast offense, how he learns to be better from the pocket,
Speaker 1: is really what he needs to do. He's got a
Speaker 1: certain magic to him that is hard to describe because
Speaker 1: he makes plays at the end of games. So really
Speaker 1: how Jake comes in. Jay's big on creating mismatches by
Speaker 1: moving his skill receivers around. And they think they've got
Speaker 1: guys like that in rookie Uh, they like DJ Shark.
Speaker 1: They believe they're tight ends are better, so they believe
Speaker 1: that they can create some things for Gardeners. Maybe weren't
Speaker 1: created last year, but it all comes down to Gardener Menshew. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I think my daughter was a little bit upset down
Speaker 1: in the background that I didn't lead off with Gardner
Speaker 1: Menshew because we are Washington State Cougar family here. I
Speaker 1: don't know if you heard her crying. She's having a
Speaker 1: rough afternoon today. The wife is trying to get her back,
Speaker 1: uh settled and under control here. But I want to
Speaker 1: go back to Gardner Minshew because, first off, go Coug's
Speaker 1: But second you mentioned the stats and kind of the
Speaker 1: way he played up to that that magic level. We
Speaker 1: saw it every week here on the polos in Washington State,
Speaker 1: and he had twenty touchdowns last year, six interceptions, like
Speaker 1: the game winning drives, the fourth quarter comebacks, that locker
Speaker 1: room mentality, I recall Jim Naggy the director of the
Speaker 1: Reese's Senior Bowl down there and Mobile and friend of
Speaker 1: the Drivetime podcast, and he talked about that ideal backup
Speaker 1: quarterback mentality that Gardner Minshew has. The guy that can
Speaker 1: come in and galvanize the huddle and get guys to
Speaker 1: really play above their means because he has that infectious personality,
Speaker 1: kind of a Ryan Fitzpatrick type of personality. But we
Speaker 1: saw him come in last year and do that as
Speaker 1: a starter, which you wouldn't expect as a sixth round rookie.
Speaker 1: I just want to have you go further on Gardner
Speaker 1: Minshew here, because what does this guy have to do
Speaker 1: to stave off a potential high pick maybe taking his job,
Speaker 1: and what are the expectations for him this year? Does
Speaker 1: he improve upon those rookie stats last season? Well, he
Speaker 1: has to um and it's the only thing in the
Speaker 1: NFL no matter how you get there, you gotta win.
Speaker 1: And even though the talent based around him most people
Speaker 1: wouldn't think was as high is on some teams, I mean,
Speaker 1: because it's young here. But in order to be the
Speaker 1: guy going forward, he has to maintain the magic because,
Speaker 1: as you know, being a Washington State fan, he's got
Speaker 1: something when it comes to leadership, when it comes to
Speaker 1: what he can do at the end of games is
Speaker 1: poor ways is remarkable. He never gives up all that stuff,
Speaker 1: all the tangibles you love. At the same time, there
Speaker 1: were some stretches last year where it looked like defenses
Speaker 1: had figured out what he was and there were some
Speaker 1: games where he really struggled, and at the same time,
Speaker 1: at the end of the season he came off of
Speaker 1: that a little bit, meaning he had an awful half
Speaker 1: against Oakland in week fifteen, I think it was out there,
Speaker 1: but then came back in the fourth quarter and let
Speaker 1: it come from behind when that was the last game
Speaker 1: in the black hole. Add game in week sixteen, but
Speaker 1: then he came back with a really good game in
Speaker 1: week seventeen. So he won two out of his last
Speaker 1: three after being banster on the on the bench, behind folds,
Speaker 1: whatever you call it. So you know, because it's a
Speaker 1: one year window, it's tough to figure out what he is.
Speaker 1: They believe that the magic that he has can be
Speaker 1: coupled with a second year jump learning to work from
Speaker 1: the pocket a little better. That's really the big thing
Speaker 1: on him. So many of his plays last year were
Speaker 1: off schedule outside the pocket. It's hard to win in
Speaker 1: the NFL if your game is based on that. How
Speaker 1: he plays from the pocket, whether he can cut out
Speaker 1: the inconsistency, that will determine what he is going forward,
Speaker 1: because if he does those things in the team's record's
Speaker 1: gonna be a lot better way to do what most
Speaker 1: of ever think it is doing. Those things will take
Speaker 1: care of whatever problems there are. You mentioned the magic factor,
Speaker 1: and I definitely saw that, you know, talk about going
Speaker 1: back to Washington State. Saw that all the time. But
Speaker 1: I also thought he was so strong and poison the
Speaker 1: way he played within the structure of the offense there
Speaker 1: in that Mike Leach offense, and the way he processed
Speaker 1: and anticipated. That's why I just thought so highly of him,
Speaker 1: even as a w s U fan alumni. It just
Speaker 1: I could see it was different than the year before
Speaker 1: with Luke Falk, who had broken the pack twelve passing
Speaker 1: record all time there. So not to get too far
Speaker 1: into a Pac twelve rabbit hole here, but I just
Speaker 1: I think the world of Gardner Minshew and last year
Speaker 1: I actually went to the game against U C. L A.
Speaker 1: It was it was a horrible thirty eight point comeback
Speaker 1: for the Bruins. We had to sit there and watch
Speaker 1: this entire thing collapse. But Gardner was there for the
Speaker 1: game back after. I think kind of his Thursday night
Speaker 1: arrival against the Titans in that big win they had
Speaker 1: last season. He was there in the cut high gene shorts,
Speaker 1: the Washington State baseball jersey, getting the crowd pumped up.
Speaker 1: It was seventeen. Everybody's happy, and then the wheels fell
Speaker 1: off and things went backwards the other direction. I think
Speaker 1: he left the game at halftime, and I'm blaming it
Speaker 1: on his absence there in the second half. But all
Speaker 1: jokes aside here. As high as I think of Gardner Minshew,
Speaker 1: I think there was one even more clear strength of
Speaker 1: this football team here for the Jacksonville Jaguars, and it's
Speaker 1: the offensive line. I've always been a big Brandon Lindor fan.
Speaker 1: I think Jowan. I liked Jowan Taylor and Cam Robinson
Speaker 1: coming out. You've got the big money guy in Andrew
Speaker 1: Norwell and then a j can there on a second contract.
Speaker 1: Are they gonna build this offense around that offensive line?
Speaker 1: The story? Because yeah, there are talented guys there and
Speaker 1: it's got a it's to be a really good group. Uh,
Speaker 1: it hasn't always as a group in the last couple
Speaker 1: of years played to that level. For whatever reason. Cam
Speaker 1: Robinson last year was coming off of an a c
Speaker 1: L that he sustained in eighteen that seemed to limit
Speaker 1: him a little bit. The big key for this offensive line,
Speaker 1: they believe, is that he will be healthy. Andrew norwell,
Speaker 1: as he says, a high price free agent, He's had
Speaker 1: some inconsistencies how the offensive line plays, and this is
Speaker 1: true of any NFL team pretty much. But if this
Speaker 1: offensive line can play to its potential, then yeah, the
Speaker 1: the offense is a whole will be much much better
Speaker 1: because again, they like DJ Tarkt receiver, they liked Schanalto receiver.
Speaker 1: They feel like they've got some weapons if they can
Speaker 1: get into the good down and distances, which usually is
Speaker 1: the offensive line play. And how about the guy that
Speaker 1: they're gonna be blocking for in that backfield, a former
Speaker 1: top five pick there and Leonard fur Nett has the
Speaker 1: big rookie season, kind of a step back, misses some
Speaker 1: games in year two, and then I think last year
Speaker 1: people maybe forgot how productive he was in another one
Speaker 1: thousand yards season. Is that kind of the expectation for him.
Speaker 1: What's his long term future looking like they're in Jacksonville. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he's a He's a guy that was rumored to be
Speaker 1: on the trade block right before the draft, which that
Speaker 1: seems to be sort of a common story with a
Speaker 1: lot of running backs these days because teams don't always
Speaker 1: sign these guys the long term deals. But for two,
Speaker 1: the Jaguars believe that for Nette is a huge part
Speaker 1: of their offense. Obviously, they believe he's an eleven twelve
Speaker 1: hundred yard guy when things are going right. Last year
Speaker 1: at mid season before the run defense sort of went away,
Speaker 1: for Nette was on pace for about a hundred yards
Speaker 1: season when the offense was built around him, when things
Speaker 1: were going well. If the Jaguars are good, and if
Speaker 1: the Jaguars are playing in other areas well, then for
Speaker 1: Nette has a chance to be a yard rusher. And
Speaker 1: he's a better receiver than people give him credit for
Speaker 1: as well. He's definitely a big, physical, bruising style of back.
Speaker 1: And you mentioned earlier in the podcast that stopping the
Speaker 1: run was kind of the focus on the defensive side
Speaker 1: of the ball. That can only help Leonard Fournette in
Speaker 1: terms of getting more carries, more touches, and being more
Speaker 1: productive on the offensive side. Let's go ahead and talk
Speaker 1: about how they're gonna stop the run on defense, though,
Speaker 1: because gone is Klaius Campbell. I'm curious to have your
Speaker 1: opinion here about what replaces Calais on the inside. We
Speaker 1: know about Tavan Brian there staying in the state of Florida.
Speaker 1: Here coming from Florida to Jacksonville talking about this Dolphins
Speaker 1: Jaguars rivalry and state. Is he kind of the guy
Speaker 1: that has to step up and take those shoes of
Speaker 1: Klaias Campbell. Yeah, he has to play better. I mean
Speaker 1: as a first round pick, he's been inconsistent. I wouldn't
Speaker 1: say that he's going to replace Klaius. I would say
Speaker 1: it's more. Uh. They went out and signed Joe Schobert
Speaker 1: as a free agent from Cleveland, who maybe a lot
Speaker 1: of people don't realize, Uh, it is a good player
Speaker 1: who will allow the Jaguars to move Miles Jack from
Speaker 1: the middle to the outside. They think their linebacker corps
Speaker 1: will be much better because of that. And they also
Speaker 1: focused on shoring up the defensive interior, meaning they went
Speaker 1: out and draft to Divon Hamilton the third round. From
Speaker 1: Ohio State. They signed Rodney Gunter from Arizona, who's an
Speaker 1: underrated guy. Al Woods from Seattle, also an underrated guy.
Speaker 1: They tried to get more numbers where they can have
Speaker 1: a better rotation inside on the interior. They believe overall
Speaker 1: that if they're better on the interior of the defense,
Speaker 1: they're gonna be able to rush the past or they're
Speaker 1: gonna be fine on the edge, which is where Campbell played.
Speaker 1: They've got Josh Allen, They've got Chason, They've got guys
Speaker 1: who can play on the outside. They need to get
Speaker 1: better from the interior the defense, and they feel like
Speaker 1: those additions we just talked about that they have. Yeah,
Speaker 1: Devon Hamilton's with my favorite picks the entire draft. I
Speaker 1: thought he was just he showed up on tape every
Speaker 1: time you watch Ohio State and then again at the
Speaker 1: Senior Bowl. Good looking player there to steal in the
Speaker 1: middle rounds of the draft this year, we talked about
Speaker 1: the first round draft picks and C. J. Henderson and
Speaker 1: Calebon Chason. I'm curious because you want to play that
Speaker 1: cover one defense, that single high safety and play man
Speaker 1: on the outside and have that version of the Seahawks
Speaker 1: cover three defense you have as well, you have to
Speaker 1: have a good second cornerback who was in the catbird seat,
Speaker 1: who's in the driver's seat to take on the other
Speaker 1: cornerback spot opposite of C. J. Henderson. Tray Herndon. He
Speaker 1: he started last year when Jalen Ramsey was traded. They
Speaker 1: believe he's a very very good number two starter. They
Speaker 1: also love d J. Hayden, who was a former top
Speaker 1: ten eleven pick who is now their nickelback. Uh. They
Speaker 1: believe he's one of the better nickelbacks in the NFL.
Speaker 1: So they feel good at corner uh, particularly if Henderson
Speaker 1: comes in and is a lockdown player, which being number
Speaker 1: three over I mean, I'm sorry, not number three, but
Speaker 1: being the number nine overall pick, he's supposed to be that.
Speaker 1: So they feel like they have good three good front
Speaker 1: line corners. Uh. The issue, of course C. J. Henderson rookie,
Speaker 1: very young, sort of translates after their whole team. How
Speaker 1: young players play and how they developed quickly is going
Speaker 1: to determine a lot about this team. Who is going
Speaker 1: to be the guy that does kind of fulfill that
Speaker 1: single high safety all the guy that has the range
Speaker 1: and kind of calls the defense. Is there a guy
Speaker 1: that's that's already kind of slotted into that position, or
Speaker 1: is it gonna be a camp battle who wants to
Speaker 1: play that single high safety spot. It's gonna be Uh.
Speaker 1: Gerard Wilson is the free safety and Ronnie Harrison is
Speaker 1: a strong safety. So I don't know that they go
Speaker 1: quite as single high safety as the city as the
Speaker 1: steep Hawks did. When they're really running this defense, they
Speaker 1: pretty much play side by side. Uh. There, guys, Ronnie
Speaker 1: Harrison's the third round pick. They believe it has a
Speaker 1: lot of potential to be a big time strong safety.
Speaker 1: Gerard Wilson is a veteran, fifty year guy, very very solid.
Speaker 1: Probably doesn't make a whole lot of plays above the
Speaker 1: xs and ohs, but that's more of their defensive philosophy.
Speaker 1: They don't go a lot of single high safety where
Speaker 1: they just have that one guy had the responsibility back
Speaker 1: there as much as maybe Seattle did. Okay, and that
Speaker 1: you mentioned Ronnie Harrison there, he really compares favorably to
Speaker 1: Cam Chancellor in terms of their build. My goodness, that
Speaker 1: guy has rocked up solid just to workout warrior. There
Speaker 1: go two more questions for you here, We got John
Speaker 1: Osher of Jaguars dot Com talking about the Dolphins we
Speaker 1: three opponent in Jacksonville Thursday night Prime time. Who is
Speaker 1: the most unsung player on this Jacksonville roster? A player
Speaker 1: that maybe the casual fan doesn't know much about, but
Speaker 1: you guys in Duval really appreciate his game. Um. You know,
Speaker 1: probably it's such a young team that there's some guys
Speaker 1: who have a chance to be that. I would say
Speaker 1: DJ Shark, but he was a Pro Bowler last year,
Speaker 1: so maybe people realize what he is. Um. Probably the
Speaker 1: guy who we haven't talked about that really matters for
Speaker 1: this team is Tyler Eifford, who they signed as a
Speaker 1: free agent from Cincinnati's ad all kinds of injury problems.
Speaker 1: They really need the tight end to be better than
Speaker 1: it has in this scheme. They also have Josh Oliver,
Speaker 1: who's the third round pick in two thousand nineteen. They're
Speaker 1: tight ends need to be more productive. So a huge
Speaker 1: key that maybe people aren't thinking about, which might answer
Speaker 1: your question a little bit. Can Tyler Eiffort stay healthy
Speaker 1: and be even close to the level and he was
Speaker 1: a Pro Bowl when he was healthy in Cincinnati. That's
Speaker 1: gonna be huge for this offense because they just haven't
Speaker 1: had that position produced lately. Yeah, pretty much just the
Speaker 1: Marcedes Lewis days, right, Yeah, and even then, I mean
Speaker 1: Mercedes played here a long time. He had a Pro
Speaker 1: Bowl season two thousand and ten, but really not a
Speaker 1: huge producer in terms of numbers of the receiving position.
Speaker 1: Great blocker and very solid, but they really haven't had
Speaker 1: that go to passing game tight end uh in about
Speaker 1: a decade. And uh they signed Julius Thomas to do it,
Speaker 1: who had a cup of coffee in Miami, But they
Speaker 1: really haven't had that guy who's a go to. And
Speaker 1: you can make the argument in the NFL it's hard
Speaker 1: to win and be effective offensively if you don't have
Speaker 1: that these days. Yeah, it certainly adds a different element
Speaker 1: to your passing game. We saw it last year and
Speaker 1: Mike get Sick kind of came on down late in
Speaker 1: the end of the season. One more question for you, John,
Speaker 1: The Jags will be a playoff team if um, if
Speaker 1: they stopped to run better and if Gardner Minshew is
Speaker 1: what they hope he is. Uh. This realistically, this feels
Speaker 1: a little bit like the Dolphs probably felt two observers
Speaker 1: last year and that everybody's saying this is a rebuild.
Speaker 1: They don't consider to rebuild, but that's what people look at.
Speaker 1: But it's not a It is not a deficient roster
Speaker 1: in terms of talent. If they can stop the run
Speaker 1: and be really good there, and if if Gardner's the
Speaker 1: franchise quarterback, then yeah, maybe they can get to nine
Speaker 1: and seven and sneak in. But I think this is
Speaker 1: a team that will be very, very good and building. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's a fun position to be and when you have
Speaker 1: the potential for maybe a high draft pick and multiple
Speaker 1: draft picks, and also if you do have that quarterback,
Speaker 1: that franchise quarterback in tow and Gardner, Minshew, nobody outside
Speaker 1: of Jacksonville is rooting harder for that guy than me. John.
Speaker 1: I promise you that. He is John Osher Jaguars dot
Speaker 1: com the Ozone Podcast and you can find him on
Speaker 1: Twitter at John Osher. John thank you so much and
Speaker 1: we'll see you down the road in September. All right, Betty, anytime,
Speaker 1: And one last big thank you to John Oshero Jaguars
Speaker 1: dot com for coming on talking some Jags football. It's
Speaker 1: always great to get some outside perspect of on these
Speaker 1: teams we're gonna be seeing this season. Last year Jacksonville
Speaker 1: six and ten, no playoffs. They were twenty six and
Speaker 1: offense twenty one in defense, that's scoring. They had some
Speaker 1: key additions. We talked about c. J. Henderson, Calevan Chason.
Speaker 1: He talked about Joe Schobert, the really, really good linebacker
Speaker 1: coming over from Cleveland. Also Tyler Effort, Rashaan Melvin, a
Speaker 1: couple more additions veteran to that roster. The ESPN Continuity
Speaker 1: Rankings had Jacksonville number eight overall in the NFL with
Speaker 1: seventy of their snaps returning this season. And we talked
Speaker 1: a lot about Gardner Minshew in that podcast. He really
Speaker 1: is the guy that's gonna really really define the future
Speaker 1: the direction of the Jaguars going forward, because what is
Speaker 1: he at quarterback? I mean, last year was such a
Speaker 1: unique situation when they went to Nick Foles big contract,
Speaker 1: he gets hurt game number one. They go right into
Speaker 1: Gardner Minshew who comes in and plays well right away.
Speaker 1: Kind of tapers off there like John had mentioned, and
Speaker 1: he really helped keep them in some football games where
Speaker 1: they go down the stretch and the last six games
Speaker 1: of the year they lost six of those final eight
Speaker 1: by a combined score two thirty four to one seven.
Speaker 1: And that's probably where you get some of the roster
Speaker 1: overturned there in Jacksonville heading into the season. Get that
Speaker 1: young team out there, a team that's just three years
Speaker 1: removed from an a f C championship appearance. There with Jacksonville.
Speaker 1: Jalen Ramsey, Telvin Smith, Calais Campbell, A J. Bullyer, Paul
Speaker 1: puzz Lusni, Malik Jackson, Dante Fowler, We're all in Pro
Speaker 1: Bowls at one point in their career and each has
Speaker 1: moved on from Jacksonville. A lot of change there, but
Speaker 1: still they have some continuity number eight. Overall. Most of
Speaker 1: that comes from offense, but the defense is in continuity
Speaker 1: with sixty nine point eight percent of the STAPs returning
Speaker 1: next year. And the Jags, like Miami does, has a
Speaker 1: war chest of draft picks to come back to and
Speaker 1: help restock that defense on that side, in addition to
Speaker 1: their free agent signings like Rashaan Melvine, like Joe Schobert,
Speaker 1: So Dolphins Jaguars Week three Thursday Night Football, September kickoff
Speaker 1: eight twenty is as scheduled. Looking forward to that game,
Speaker 1: my first prime time game here as a member of
Speaker 1: the Miami Dolphins, and my first ever primetime game that's
Speaker 1: gonna start beyond that five thirty or six o'clock kickoff.
Speaker 1: Being a West Coast guy, the game's always kicked off
Speaker 1: at six o'clock on Monday night, five thirty on Sunday night.
Speaker 1: Now that's changed more to five thirty in that time slot.
Speaker 1: So I'm curious to get inundated with the eight twenty
Speaker 1: eight thirty kickoffs over there on the East Coast. Covering
Speaker 1: a game on the road a late night for sure,
Speaker 1: but I cannot wait. I cannot wait for football. We're
Speaker 1: gonna do plenty more of these Know the Enemy series here,
Speaker 1: both on the podcast and on the Miami Dolphins dot
Speaker 1: com website. We currently have the written piece I went
Speaker 1: really in depth on Jacksonville, Buffalo, and New England. You
Speaker 1: can check that piece now on Miami Dolphins dot Com.
Speaker 1: We'll have the next edition of October teams. I think
Speaker 1: we'll do Seattle, San Francisco, Denver, and the l A Chargers.
Speaker 1: We'll get into that here probably next week, both on
Speaker 1: the website and get some more podcast interviews with those
Speaker 1: that know these teams. The best on the Know the
Speaker 1: Enemy series. As for today's podcast, that is gonna be
Speaker 1: my time you all, please be sure to subscribe to
Speaker 1: the podcast on Apple, podcast, Spotify, tuned in, wherever you
Speaker 1: get your podcast from. Go ahead and leave us a rating,
Speaker 1: leave us a five star review. It helps grow the
Speaker 1: podcast get out to more Dolphins fans and we would
Speaker 1: greatly greatly appreciate that. Follow me on Twitter at Wingfield, NFL,
Speaker 1: follow the Dolphins at Miami Dolphins, check out The fish
Speaker 1: Tank and the audible podcast. The Fish Tank just put
Speaker 1: out the j Feindler episode. You do not want to
Speaker 1: miss that, and of course Miami Dolphins dot com. Until
Speaker 1: next time, fins up