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Speaker 2: in no particular order, talking quarterbacks today, but also backup

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Speaker 2: quarterbacks as well, the Cleveland Browns, I believe, have six

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Speaker 2: quarterbacks in their quarterback room. There's a chance they keep

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Speaker 2: four to start the season. And the reason why I

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Speaker 2: bring this up, it's for a variety of reasons, but

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Speaker 2: I think the most important one is your backup quarterback

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Speaker 2: situation with the Rams with Matthew Stafford. They got Jimmy Garoppolo.

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Speaker 2: That's a high end backup. I mean, you got a

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Speaker 2: backup who started in the Super Bowl. We don't know

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Speaker 2: the severity of Matthew Stafford. It feels like it's day

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Speaker 2: to day with the back issues there.

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Speaker 3: But this is a.

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Speaker 2: Team that can challenge to win the NFC. They're that

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Speaker 2: talented and it might come down to Matthew Stafford's health.

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Speaker 2: And if that's the case, Jimmy Garoppolo, how much does

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Speaker 2: he play? Stetson Bentett is the backup to the backup.

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Speaker 2: But look at some of these situations around the NFL,

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Speaker 2: and you need to have if you're a really good team,

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Speaker 2: you kind of have to have a really good backup

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Speaker 2: because if your starter goes down, you don't want the

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Speaker 2: season to go down as well. But we'll talk about

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Speaker 2: that coming up. And the Cleveland Browns brought in Tyler Hunting. Now,

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Speaker 2: if you look at the headlines, it's Brown's bring in

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Speaker 2: former Pro Bowl Pro bowler Tyler Hunting, and I went, well, okay,

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Speaker 2: wait a minute.

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Speaker 3: Now.

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Speaker 2: The reality is he made the Pro Bowl in twenty

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Speaker 2: twenty two. His stats this year two touchdown passes, three

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Speaker 2: interceptions and rushing for one hundred and thirty seven yards.

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Speaker 2: The Pro Bowl used to mean something, and he did

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Speaker 2: a pretty good job with Lamar Jackson's absence when he

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Speaker 2: going to the Cleveland Browns and you already have a

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Speaker 2: quarterback heavy room. When you have that many quarterbacks, you

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Speaker 2: Shadoor Sanders and Dylan Gabriel, and then the curiosity of

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Speaker 2: Kenny Pickett. They're all injured, but not you know, serious injuries,

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Speaker 2: but you still have nagging injuries and you're trying to

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Speaker 2: get everybody enough reps. It feels like it's Joe Flacco's

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Speaker 2: job to lose from what I'm told, But I thought

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Speaker 2: at the beginning Kenny Pickett was going to be the

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Speaker 2: bring in Tyler Hunting as well, but I think that's

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Speaker 2: because you know you've got.

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Speaker 4: A preseason game coming up.

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Speaker 2: I think this Friday, you got to have somebody play

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Speaker 2: in the position who's healthy enough. And that might be

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Speaker 2: other backup quarterback situations here and the importance speaking of

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Speaker 2: what Chris Sims, who was a backup quarterback for a

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Speaker 2: The college football rankings came out. It's Texas, Ohio State,

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Speaker 2: we were wondering, when's the last time you had the

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Speaker 2: two top teams in the country meeting to open up

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Speaker 2: the season. This is the first time it's happened in

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Speaker 2: arch Manning. We're going to get a really good idea

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Speaker 5: The defending national champions. Yes, going into Columbus ranked number one.

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Speaker 5: For really, what is your first game? That's you can

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Speaker 2: Here's another thing that I found interesting. I find this

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Speaker 2: voters felt that way too, because you have Texas, Ohio State,

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Speaker 2: think that's what's interesting. These are sort of the usuals,

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Speaker 2: the usual suspects. I like Clemson a lot more than

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Speaker 2: I probably thought I was going to Oregon's in there,

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Speaker 2: Ohio State, Texas, and it should be a fun season.

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Speaker 2: I don't know when we're adding four more teams to

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Speaker 2: the playoffs. It's probably next year. But once again, it's

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Speaker 2: gray area there. It's just like the NCAA Tournament more madness.

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Speaker 2: I was told two weeks ago, get ready for a

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Speaker 2: decision if they're going to expand or be status quo.

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Speaker 2: Well we finally got around to that yesterday where they

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Speaker 2: said they're not going to expand March madness, which I

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Speaker 2: get reduced a little bit more, but that's not going

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Speaker 2: to happen. We always add, we never subtract. And if

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Speaker 2: you're at sixty eight, I do think we'll eventually get

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Speaker 2: seventy six as well before the end of this decade.

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Speaker 4: Yes, Marvin, sorry, are my eyes deceiving me?

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Speaker 3: Texas at Ohio State August.

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Speaker 2: Thirtieth, noon, Yeah, yeah, oh wow, big noon kickoffs? Yeah,

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Speaker 2: but all eyes will be on that. You would think

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Speaker 2: that's a Saturday night type game, right, yeah, seton.

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Speaker 5: But you might be if you're say Texas and arch Manning,

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Speaker 5: you might love Just wake up, get to the field,

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Speaker 4: You're not sitting around.

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Speaker 5: All day waiting to go all right here here, okay,

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Speaker 5: stay LuSE gotta the just get the game, let's play.

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Speaker 2: I was watching the nineteen eighty three NFL Draft, the

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Speaker 2: thirty for thirty last night. That took place in the morning.

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Speaker 2: I think it started at eight am and at noon.

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Speaker 2: Now I'm there. I met the Marriott Marquis and you

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Speaker 2: And I don't remember if how many players were there.

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Speaker 2: John Madden, but it was just when you think about showcasing,

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Speaker 2: NFL Draft, I think started at eight am and ended

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Speaker 2: at noon that day. All right, see what's pull question today?

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Speaker 5: Well, we probably got a gajillion of them off of

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Speaker 5: the college football list there. That's a lot that one

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Speaker 5: exactly one gajillion. Yes, we also have a couple of

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Speaker 5: if you're a pro athlete, are there any circumstances where

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Speaker 5: you'd want your parent at training camp? Yes or no?

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Speaker 2: All right, well, this is a Shadoor Sanders talking about

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Speaker 6: I don't want him come in to see me right

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Speaker 6: to go in for him to see me now, I

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Speaker 3: You know, get a couple of reptions.

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Speaker 6: You know, he's cheering like a good dad, like, nah,

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Speaker 6: you can't be proud of me right now. I gotta

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Speaker 3: Know distraction because we know out the media, we know

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Speaker 6: Take it and take away from the team just from

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Speaker 6: it's a gift that occurs at the same time.

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Speaker 2: It's a great answer, and by all accounts, he has

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Speaker 2: I know we've had the speeding tickets. By all accounts though,

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Speaker 2: preferential treatment. And once again, this is somebody with the

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Speaker 2: him after you take Dylan Gabriel. Now that's aside from

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Speaker 2: done what you've wanted, expected, hoped for and coming to

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Speaker 2: camp would be a spectacle. It would lead Sports Center,

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Speaker 2: it would be a big big deal. Should Or is

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Speaker 2: is should Or Sanders. Does it open doors, yes. Do

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Speaker 2: you get a lot of attention publicity, yes, but more

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Speaker 2: what he said is, Dad, let me wait till I'm

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Speaker 2: an NFL quarterback. Let me wait till I'm the starter here,

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Speaker 2: then if you want to come to camp. Dion did

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Speaker 2: go to Shiloh Sanders. He's with Tampa Bay. I think

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Speaker 2: he was undrafted free agent. But I think he has

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Speaker 2: a chance to make the team. But it has to

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Speaker 2: be a little bit awkward though, if I'm a coach

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Speaker 2: and Dion's in town and all of a sudden, you know, man,

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Speaker 2: how Shiloh doing. Hey, peg puts.

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Speaker 4: In the work.

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Speaker 2: Hey, you know he's got a chance. Like you kind

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Speaker 2: of have to say something nice. It's like when you

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Speaker 2: go to a parent teacher conference when your kid is

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Speaker 2: young and you know that she's a problem in class,

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Speaker 2: but they go, well, you know, she's interesting, she's got

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Speaker 2: good spirit there. You know, they try to tell you

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Speaker 2: something positive there. But Shiloh may make the roster in

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Speaker 2: Tampa Bay and maybe the Cleveland Browns keep four quarterbacks

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Speaker 2: even though they got six in there.

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Speaker 4: Now, Yes, Tod, And.

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Speaker 7: Why would you want any hint at all or appearance

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Speaker 7: of preferential treatment that's not to say that any head

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Speaker 7: nicer or give you a better chance to be a

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Speaker 2: Yesterday, Seaton gave us a review of the Tom Brady documentary.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, we're gonna go with this year's national champions will

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Speaker 2: Football Night in America. The Longhorns open up with the

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Speaker 2: arch manning. I guess that first week there your thoughts

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Speaker 3: What's Texas close to this year? Almost forty million?

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Speaker 10: They do everything big down in Texas, that's for sure.

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Speaker 10: And they're pumped about arch Manning. I know that from

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Speaker 10: And I experienced this too as Chris sims. Oh oh,

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Speaker 10: Dylan Gabriel hamstring injury. Shador Sanders was dealing with a

435
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Speaker 10: little arm issue this past weekend, and now I don't

436
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Speaker 10: know what to think.

437
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Speaker 3: The hell is going to happen there?

438
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Speaker 10: And yeah, they might be forced to keep Joe Flacca

439
00:22:14,920 --> 00:22:17,199
Speaker 10: and figure out some other creative ways to keep all

440
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Speaker 10: four of these guys.

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Speaker 3: Dan.

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Speaker 4: How often did teams tank in the NFL?

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Speaker 3: Not very often? Right?

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Speaker 10: The problem is the front office might tell the coaches

445
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Speaker 10: or whatever else, hey, play, these guys do all this.

446
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Speaker 10: We want to keep this guy out because we don't

447
00:22:36,720 --> 00:22:39,120
Speaker 10: want to pay him guaranteed money if he gets hurt

448
00:22:39,160 --> 00:22:41,880
Speaker 10: after the year and all that. So the front office

449
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Speaker 10: and ownership might try to set it up to hey,

450
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Speaker 10: I hope we don't win the game, but damn, it's

451
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Speaker 10: hard to make the coaches and players buy into that.

452
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Speaker 10: I mean, you know, put yourself in some guy's shoe.

453
00:22:52,080 --> 00:22:54,440
Speaker 10: Oh I'm the second stringer. They're trying to tank the game.

454
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Speaker 10: I don't care. This is the first time all year

455
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Speaker 10: I get to get out here, put film for my

456
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Speaker 10: future job, another team me and blah blah blah.

457
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Speaker 3: I'm going all out.

458
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Speaker 10: And more times than not, the teams that do that,

459
00:23:04,480 --> 00:23:07,440
Speaker 10: the coaches are like, wait, it looks like they might

460
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Speaker 10: fire me this year. The hell would them? I'm going

461
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Speaker 10: to coach great this week A La Girodmeo Week eighteen.

462
00:23:13,040 --> 00:23:16,639
Speaker 10: Last year screwing over the New England Patriots. Right, So, yeah,

463
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Speaker 10: that's where it's hard to just full out tank maybe

464
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Speaker 10: to the same extent some of the other sports can

465
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Speaker 10: pull it off, it's a little different in the NFL.

466
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Speaker 2: Chris Sims, Pro Football Talk Live co host you'll see

467
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Speaker 2: him on Football Night in America's podcast is called Unbuttoned,

468
00:23:30,720 --> 00:23:36,360
Speaker 2: former NFL college quarterback. The Rams situation I find really

469
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Speaker 2: intriguing because it feels like there's season which could be

470
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Speaker 2: a Super Bowl season is hinging on Matthew Stafford. Right now,

471
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Speaker 2: you do have Jimmy Garoppolo, but this is a team

472
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Speaker 2: that went toe to toe with the Eagles in Philadelphia

473
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Speaker 2: last year and I don't see and you know why

474
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Speaker 2: they shouldn't be considered one of the favorites for the

475
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Speaker 2: NFC again this year. But what like a injury that's

476
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Speaker 2: day to day or now it's been weak to week here, right,

477
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Speaker 2: what are we looking at with Matthew Stafford.

478
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Speaker 4: In the Ram.

479
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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a.

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Speaker 10: Little concerning, but I'm not like overly concerned yet. Hey,

481
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Speaker 10: good thing is they do have a Jimmy Garoppolo, and

482
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Speaker 10: I do think he could get you through two, three,

483
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Speaker 10: four games. Well, let's not get it messed up. Jimmy

484
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Speaker 10: Garoppo ain't Matthew Stafford. Stafford is special, and yeah he

485
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Speaker 10: makes them a super Bowl team with all the things

486
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Speaker 10: they got around him. I'm with you in that conversation, Dan,

487
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Speaker 10: I mean that they are a super Bowl team. They

488
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Speaker 10: had the Eagles on the ropes like you talked about.

489
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Speaker 10: I mean, I was sitting there on the field watching

490
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Speaker 10: it happen. They got everything you need, coaches, young talent, playmakers, quarterback,

491
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Speaker 10: all of it.

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Speaker 3: I won't be concerned. Well, you we heard McVeigh yesterday.

493
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Speaker 10: They say, I think you know, he's maybe about ten

494
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Speaker 10: days away. To me, that's encouraging. That means that they're

495
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Speaker 10: feeling like it's going in the right direction to where

496
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Speaker 10: he could practice. But if we get to like August twentieth,

497
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Speaker 10: August twenty third, and we're still still dealing with this,

498
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Speaker 10: I'd be a little like, oh, man, no, I don't

499
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Speaker 10: know that.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's a little worrisome.

501
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Speaker 10: Hey, the lower back back is a pain in the

502
00:25:03,600 --> 00:25:07,400
Speaker 10: butt for a thrower of the football. Tony Romo, damn,

503
00:25:07,400 --> 00:25:09,760
Speaker 10: he had to retire because of it. Troy Aikman had

504
00:25:09,800 --> 00:25:12,280
Speaker 10: to retire because of it. You know, my dad had

505
00:25:12,320 --> 00:25:15,560
Speaker 10: a little issues. It happens because of that torking you

506
00:25:15,640 --> 00:25:18,120
Speaker 10: do as a quarterback all the time, over and over

507
00:25:18,200 --> 00:25:21,280
Speaker 10: and over, and sometimes your feet and are in awkward,

508
00:25:21,480 --> 00:25:24,359
Speaker 10: awkward spots and you still tork. And that's where they

509
00:25:24,400 --> 00:25:25,960
Speaker 10: got to be careful on that. They just got to

510
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Speaker 10: make sure it goes away, because it's one of those

511
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Speaker 10: things when you're lower back and you go, oh, I'm

512
00:25:30,480 --> 00:25:32,840
Speaker 10: about ninety five percent. I think I can go out

513
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Speaker 10: there today and do it. The first time he throws

514
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Speaker 10: a few lasers, he goes, oh, I'm back to sixty

515
00:25:37,359 --> 00:25:39,960
Speaker 10: five percent. And this is one you gotta make sure

516
00:25:39,960 --> 00:25:42,280
Speaker 10: you do your due diligence, make sure it's wiped away

517
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Speaker 10: so that he can get after it. But we know, man,

518
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Speaker 10: this is one of the damn toughest quarterbacks we've seen.

519
00:25:47,200 --> 00:25:49,120
Speaker 10: I expect him to be out there Week one, ready

520
00:25:49,119 --> 00:25:50,359
Speaker 10: to go more threatening.

521
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Speaker 4: Rams are Chargers.

522
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Speaker 3: Oooh, I would say the I will go with the Rams. Okay.

523
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Speaker 10: The Chargers are threatening, no question, And I got to

524
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Speaker 10: see them in per There's a real vibe in that

525
00:26:01,960 --> 00:26:02,800
Speaker 10: team and belief.

526
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Speaker 3: But that AFC West, we know how good it is.

527
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Speaker 10: I think it's arguably the greatest coaches in one division

528
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Speaker 10: in the history of football, if not definitely the greatest

529
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Speaker 10: coaches in one division. We know Mahomes is there. I

530
00:26:14,080 --> 00:26:16,880
Speaker 10: do think the Dan Broncos are real, right. We heard

531
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Speaker 10: Sean Payton say that the other day. I think the

532
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Speaker 10: Broncos are a team that like, Okay, people talking about playoffs,

533
00:26:23,240 --> 00:26:25,720
Speaker 10: but I think ours kind of a sneaky.

534
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Speaker 3: Super Bowl contender, contender.

535
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Speaker 10: One of the best defenses in football only got better

536
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Speaker 10: with the two forty nine ers they signed in free agency.

537
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Speaker 10: Bo Nick's second year Evan Ingram at tight end. I'd say, ooh,

538
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Speaker 10: that's gonna be a nice addition.

539
00:26:38,200 --> 00:26:39,920
Speaker 3: For Sean Payton and this RJ.

540
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Speaker 10: Harvey they got in the second round oft the Central

541
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Speaker 10: Florida I think has a chance to be a real

542
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Speaker 10: special player. So I put Denver maybe a notch up

543
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Speaker 10: above the Chargers as far as that team that could

544
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Speaker 10: surprise people and disrupt some of the matchups we'd like

545
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Speaker 10: to see in the AFC playoffs.

546
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Speaker 2: When does it become a concern to you, as a

547
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Speaker 2: former player now analyst, with what's happening with Michael Parsons.

548
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Speaker 2: At what point you know in this month would you then,

549
00:27:07,240 --> 00:27:08,960
Speaker 2: you know, start to have some real concerns.

550
00:27:09,200 --> 00:27:12,080
Speaker 10: I already have concerns, Like I made the comment yesterday

551
00:27:12,119 --> 00:27:14,960
Speaker 10: with Floria on Pro Football Talk, like you know, circus

552
00:27:15,000 --> 00:27:17,000
Speaker 10: doesn't translate to Super Bowl.

553
00:27:17,280 --> 00:27:17,440
Speaker 3: Right.

554
00:27:17,520 --> 00:27:21,320
Speaker 10: The football gods they can't look upon this and go, oh,

555
00:27:21,320 --> 00:27:23,600
Speaker 10: this is the way you handle a football team. The

556
00:27:23,640 --> 00:27:27,560
Speaker 10: way they do contracts is ridiculous. It costs them with

557
00:27:27,680 --> 00:27:29,879
Speaker 10: having to pay They could have got Michael Parsons for

558
00:27:29,920 --> 00:27:32,439
Speaker 10: thirty four to thirty five million dollars last year. Now

559
00:27:32,480 --> 00:27:34,800
Speaker 10: they're gonna have to pay more than forty one. They

560
00:27:34,840 --> 00:27:37,639
Speaker 10: should forty three forty four. And those are two or

561
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Speaker 10: three players on your football team. When you add that

562
00:27:39,720 --> 00:27:41,800
Speaker 10: up to Dak Prescott and Ceedee Lamb and how they

563
00:27:41,880 --> 00:27:44,280
Speaker 10: drag their feet on all of that. But let alone

564
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Speaker 10: like the owner taking kind of like what cheap shots

565
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Speaker 10: to a degree, i'd Michael Parsons all his back's out there,

566
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Speaker 10: this is contracts. Oh he missed six games last year

567
00:27:55,720 --> 00:27:58,720
Speaker 10: when he really missed four. Right, They put out things

568
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Speaker 10: like you know, oh, god, she's a little bit of

569
00:28:00,720 --> 00:28:01,720
Speaker 10: a pain in the butt in.

570
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Speaker 3: The building, Like really, he can get a Cowboys hit

571
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Speaker 3: buy a car.

572
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Speaker 4: When he said that I mean.

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Speaker 10: Exactly, there's just been too many weird messaging. Micah Parsons

574
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Speaker 10: has handled it like a true pro been there been,

575
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Speaker 10: trying to be selfless, trying to be a good leader.

576
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Speaker 10: And then also the other part of it that I

577
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Speaker 10: can't stand dan is like Jerry Jones, I don't want

578
00:28:23,040 --> 00:28:26,119
Speaker 10: the agent there, No crap, you don't want the agent there, Jerry,

579
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Speaker 10: this is your.

580
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Speaker 3: Wheelhouse doing business deals.

581
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Speaker 10: I mean that's like making hey, Jerry gets some shoulder

582
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Speaker 10: pads of a helmet and do a tackling drill against

583
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Speaker 10: Michael Parsons. That's like, it's like an equal conversation there,

584
00:28:35,800 --> 00:28:38,760
Speaker 10: not fair right, let alone against the bylaws of the

585
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Speaker 10: NFL and the CBA.

586
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Speaker 3: So it is a distraction.

587
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Speaker 10: They can say what they want, and I'm getting to

588
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Speaker 10: the point where I think Micah is gonna maybe have

589
00:28:46,680 --> 00:28:49,200
Speaker 10: to play hardball and maybe he has to start having

590
00:28:49,200 --> 00:28:52,120
Speaker 10: a a press conference like Jerry does every few days

591
00:28:52,120 --> 00:28:53,920
Speaker 10: and let everybody know what's really going on.

592
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Speaker 2: The Bengals situation kind of tapered off because of Michah

593
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Speaker 2: Parsons and the Cowboys get all the oxygen in the room.

594
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Speaker 2: This is a Bengal team that's all in on offense.

595
00:29:04,960 --> 00:29:08,600
Speaker 2: But you know, having an eyewitness who's watched the Bengals

596
00:29:08,680 --> 00:29:13,880
Speaker 2: practice twice and he said, defensively, they're in trouble.

597
00:29:14,520 --> 00:29:19,000
Speaker 10: I mean, they weren't a good defense last year. There's

598
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Speaker 10: not really a whole lot of Marquee household names on

599
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Speaker 10: the defense to make you think, oh wow, it's gonna

600
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Speaker 10: drastically turn around. Their biggest thing is they got Al

601
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Speaker 10: Golden and the new defensive coordinator there, right, and hopefully

602
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Speaker 10: he can be creative schematically to give them some advantages.

603
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Speaker 10: And I'm not shocked too to hear that it's not

604
00:29:37,280 --> 00:29:39,720
Speaker 10: going great for them at times. Right they are learning

605
00:29:39,800 --> 00:29:42,040
Speaker 10: a new defense, and damn you got to go against

606
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Speaker 10: Joe Burrow, Chase and Higgins every day.

607
00:29:44,360 --> 00:29:45,600
Speaker 3: We saw last year.

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Speaker 10: I don't care what defense you are, it's hard to

609
00:29:47,720 --> 00:29:50,200
Speaker 10: stop that crew right there. But man, it does seem

610
00:29:50,240 --> 00:29:52,240
Speaker 10: like there's gonna be a lot of pressure on that offense.

611
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Speaker 10: The Trey Hendrickson thing, not only did they need him

612
00:29:54,800 --> 00:29:57,440
Speaker 10: as a leader and he's the best player on their defense.

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Speaker 10: To me, it's twofold in the fact that the kid

614
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Speaker 10: they drafted in the first round, Shamar Stewart, he's got

615
00:30:04,320 --> 00:30:08,400
Speaker 10: superstar potential, but he's raw. He's simple. He doesn't do

616
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Speaker 10: any pass rushers moves. He just is like I just

617
00:30:10,680 --> 00:30:12,760
Speaker 10: go that way and that's all I do. So you're

618
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Speaker 10: hurting his development by not having Trey hendrickson there as well.

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Speaker 10: So yeah, hopefully they can get that ironed out. Because man,

620
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Speaker 10: when you watch Joe Burrow and company and they're good

621
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Speaker 10: in the AFC against of course Mahomes and Lamar and

622
00:30:26,120 --> 00:30:28,720
Speaker 10: Josh Allen, man, that just doesn't get any better than that.

623
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Speaker 2: Do we give Joe Burrow a Hall pass because he

624
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Speaker 2: beat Mahomes in Kansas City to go to the super Bowl?

625
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Speaker 2: But after that, I mean you're looking at not getting

626
00:30:43,440 --> 00:30:47,280
Speaker 2: to the playoffs a few years, right, even performance in

627
00:30:47,320 --> 00:30:49,160
Speaker 2: the play like I don't know.

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Speaker 10: I well, you know, he had them on the ropes

629
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Speaker 10: right the next year in the AFC Championship game and

630
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Speaker 10: they got the late hit out of Mounds on Mahomes

631
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Speaker 10: right where he's kind of like, oh man, it feels

632
00:30:59,440 --> 00:31:02,320
Speaker 10: like Cincinnati about to pull this off, so that happens.

633
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Speaker 3: Injury has been an issue.

634
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Speaker 10: I think the fact that the Bengals do things dysfunctionally

635
00:31:08,520 --> 00:31:12,880
Speaker 10: does like maybe give him somewhat of a free pass

636
00:31:12,920 --> 00:31:17,000
Speaker 10: to your point there, But you know, all in all,

637
00:31:17,200 --> 00:31:19,840
Speaker 10: two years ago, they were hot late in the year

638
00:31:19,880 --> 00:31:22,160
Speaker 10: and he hurt his wrist. Injury has been his biggest

639
00:31:22,200 --> 00:31:25,280
Speaker 10: kryptonite last year. I don't know what else you can do, right,

640
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Speaker 10: I mean, damn his thirty points every game. He just

641
00:31:28,360 --> 00:31:30,680
Speaker 10: going up and down the field, throwing for two hundred

642
00:31:30,680 --> 00:31:33,240
Speaker 10: and eighty yards every game, three touchdowes. He carried the

643
00:31:33,240 --> 00:31:36,080
Speaker 10: team as much as you've seen anybody carry the team.

644
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Speaker 10: So no, I don't think we give him a free pass.

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Speaker 3: I don't.

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00:31:39,400 --> 00:31:42,600
Speaker 10: Hey, we got Josh Allen, Lamar Jackson are all time

647
00:31:42,680 --> 00:31:43,720
Speaker 10: greats in my opinion.

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Speaker 3: They haven't even gotten to the Super Bowl yet. They

649
00:31:46,240 --> 00:31:47,360
Speaker 3: haven't even been able.

650
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Speaker 10: To beat that guy Mahomes one time yet in these

651
00:31:49,640 --> 00:31:51,360
Speaker 10: damn playoff games or anything like that.

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Speaker 3: So that's one to me.

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Speaker 10: One of the cool storylines of the year is can

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Speaker 10: Lamar and Josh Allen His talent and as awesome a

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Speaker 10: quarterbacks as I've ever seen my life have yet to

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Speaker 10: be to a Super Bowl.

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Speaker 3: Could this be the year?

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Speaker 10: I don't know, but yeah, it's pretty unreal with the

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Speaker 10: quarterbacks in the AFC, and I think Joe Burrow is

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Speaker 10: truly phenomenal.

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Speaker 2: Okay, give me the team that you like. Sneaky team

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Speaker 2: that you like.

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Speaker 3: Okay, all right, sneaky team. All right.

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Speaker 10: So here's one that I don't think a team gets

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Speaker 10: put en up in the in the super Bowl window.

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Speaker 10: I think the Houston Texans are going to be one

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Speaker 10: of those teams this year that I'll just say that.

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Speaker 3: I know they're not sneaking up on anybody.

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Speaker 2: As far as playoffs, well, they jumped off the bandwagon

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Speaker 2: last year, right.

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Speaker 10: I think, And I think a lot of that had

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Speaker 10: to do with the offensive coordinator and some of the

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Speaker 10: issues there. The defense is awesome, that's not even you know, disputable.

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Speaker 10: Nico Collins was hurt a bunch last year. They lost

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Speaker 10: Stefan Diggs, their pass protection was pitiful. I think they'll

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Speaker 10: be better at receiver and I think you'll see CJ.

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Speaker 10: Stroud have more of a hand in the pass protection

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Speaker 10: this year. So I would put them in that super

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Speaker 10: Bowl window or they're a little rated in my opinion.

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Speaker 10: I think another the New England Patriots are of course

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Speaker 10: the other team i'd look at to go watch out.

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Speaker 10: It just seems like between that coaching staff, they one

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Speaker 10: of the teams that won the offseason where I'd go,

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Speaker 10: we are sitting here late December, going man New England.

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Speaker 10: If they win this week, they could go to the playoffs.

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Speaker 10: I would not be shocked by that at all. That's

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Speaker 10: one and one more I'll thought of you. The Jets

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Speaker 10: have the talent to surprise people.

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Speaker 4: Look at youth.

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Speaker 3: People are overlooking it. But they got some talent. I

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Speaker 3: mean they do.

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Speaker 10: And I believe in Aaron Glenn and I don't think

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Speaker 10: they're gonna make it all about the quarterback. They're gonna

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Speaker 10: run the ball, They're gonna play defense. There'll be a

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Speaker 10: pain in the butt. But I think my leader there

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Speaker 10: would probably be New England and one of those teams

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Speaker 10: that you're talking about as far as that just really

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Speaker 10: jumps out and surprises us.

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Speaker 4: Good stuff, good stuff.

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Speaker 2: I like you fired up. I gotta I gotta get

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Speaker 2: you defensive to start out.

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Speaker 3: And when am I not fired up? I don't know.

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Speaker 2: You tell me, you know, because you know your dad.

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Speaker 2: Little nepotism.

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Speaker 10: And then yeah, hey, tell those jerks you got on

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Speaker 10: the show.

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Speaker 4: And I said, hi, alright, oh oh.

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Speaker 3: I said hi, wow, I'm fired up.

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Speaker 2: All right, Hey, hey, Jerks. Chris Simms says, hello, thank you, Chris.

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Speaker 3: All right, Dan, always good being on.

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Speaker 2: Thanks guys, Chris Simms, Pro Football Talk Live co host.

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Speaker 2: You'll find him with Mike Florio. The show that precedes

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Speaker 2: ours and the Jerks is a little rough, all right,

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Speaker 2: a little rough.

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Speaker 5: We were used to that now, that's kind of our relationship.

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Speaker 2: Okay, all right, let me take a break. When we

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Speaker 2: come back. Play of the Day. Seaton gives us his

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Speaker 2: review of the next two episodes of Tom Brady. The

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Speaker 2: first two episodes didn't go well for the five part series.

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Speaker 2: It is a five part series. We were wondering about

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Speaker 2: Tom's character arc in the documentary. Maybe the reviews are

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Speaker 2: a little better today than they were yesterday. Back after this.

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Speaker 3: Of the Day?

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Speaker 10: Was my God?

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Speaker 2: Play?

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Speaker 3: This is the play of the day. Check this out?

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Speaker 4: The one one and that ball hit high hen deep

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Speaker 4: hend to left field.

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Speaker 3: Domingos goes back watches with the rest of us.

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Speaker 5: Has Josh Young has just.

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Speaker 2: Walked off the New York yankeeses Hey three run home

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Speaker 2: run to Luck Center. Rangers win it eight to five.

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Speaker 2: four in a row. They were walked off for the

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Speaker 2: expert Seaton O Connor said that he had watched the

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Speaker 2: first two episodes of the Tom Brady documentary. What's the

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Speaker 2: official title of the Tom Brady Soccer documentary?

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Speaker 5: Built in Birmingham? Okay, Tom and the Blues?

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Speaker 4: All right?

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Speaker 2: The Birmingham Blues a third tier soccer team. Yeah, they

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Speaker 2: sort of.

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Speaker 5: They spent a lot of their history going between like

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Speaker 5: the first and second tiers, between Premier League and Championship.

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Speaker 5: Have found themselves down into the third tier though for sure.

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Speaker 2: Okay, so Tom is one of the new owners there,

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Speaker 2: fired everybody and didn't go well. But now getting a

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Speaker 2: little bit better. The first two episodes you talked about

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Speaker 2: Tom and maybe lack of soccer knowledge but kind of

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Speaker 2: leaning on the coaching cliche book for quotes to his

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Speaker 2: is organizations.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, it's just it's just an interesting look. The show

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Speaker 5: is really good. It's a fun watch, but that you know,

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Speaker 5: like I say yesterday, that formula is sort of undefeated,

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Speaker 5: of like go in, get a team, learn the people,

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Speaker 5: try to rebuild it kind of thing that'll work across

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Speaker 5: any sport, right, Okay, But what was surprising was just

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Speaker 5: sort of the view of Tom that he was allowing

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Speaker 5: you to see, where he was kind of like, Yeah,

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Speaker 5: it doesn't really matter that I don't know anything because

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Speaker 5: I know winning, Like, oh, who's Aston Villa? Who cares

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Speaker 5: if we're in the same town, we're better than them, Like, dude,

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Speaker 5: they're like a Champions League caliber.

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Speaker 4: Team, Like what are you talking about? How do you

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Speaker 4: not know that?

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Speaker 5: Especially just as a businessman, Right, So he kind of

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Speaker 5: has this air of like, doesn't matter because I know

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Speaker 5: winning because I came from nothing and look at me,

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Speaker 5: I'm the greatest ever. So it doesn't matter I win.

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Speaker 5: That's just what I do.

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Speaker 10: Uh.

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Speaker 5: This first two episodes were heavy on that heavy. This

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Speaker 5: second two were great because it was way less of

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Speaker 5: Tom and his business side of things and more about

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Speaker 5: the actual people. Like here's a player who they just

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Speaker 5: signed for big money, whose father was a professional player

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Speaker 5: but died when he was young, and like, now you're

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Speaker 5: getting like the real storylines there. And Tom would uh.

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Speaker 5: Usually he checks in either from a private jet is

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Speaker 5: he's flying somewhere, or from some amazing mansion somewhere in

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Speaker 5: the world where he's catching up on the game on

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Speaker 5: his iPad, but there's like a Teaki hut behind him

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Speaker 5: and he's like, yeah, oh yeah, I'm really invested in this.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, But the coach doesn't really understand the whole Tom

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Speaker 2: Brady Aura.

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Speaker 5: There's no not really. He knows that he's great. He

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Speaker 5: knows that in the game that he played, he's really great.

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Speaker 5: There are a lot of moments where you can see

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Speaker 5: like Tom will be like, you know, I remember when

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Speaker 5: Bill Belichick first said to me, and it just flies

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Speaker 5: right over everybody's head, and he's like, he's a coach,

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Speaker 5: He's like one of the best coaches of all time

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Speaker 5: in the NFL anyway, and he sort of goes on,

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Speaker 5: there's a moment with the where the coach is doing

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Speaker 5: an interview like one of those like two camera interviews,

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Speaker 5: and he's like, yeah, you know, Tom, I'm really lucky

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Speaker 5: to have a guy like Tom giving me so much advice,

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Speaker 5: one of the greatest athletes in the world. And he

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Speaker 5: sent me a video from a coach, Nick Saban. Nick Sabon,

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Speaker 5: he uh has an interesting coaching philosophy. I appreciate Tom

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Speaker 5: sharing that with me, and then you hear there's Tom again.

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Speaker 4: Tom just sent me another.

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Speaker 5: Nick Nick Saban is a coach in America, very famous.

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Speaker 4: Paul in Chicago. Hi Paul, what's on your mind?

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Speaker 9: Hey Dan, Thanks for taking my call. Uh? Yeah, thanks, guys.

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Speaker 9: I watched last night because Seton was was talking about

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Speaker 9: it yesterday, and I'm loving it. Seaton, I don't know

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Speaker 9: if I agree with what you were saying, like the

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Speaker 9: bar scene you were describing, like I didn't see him

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Speaker 9: ever say like how much time do I have to

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Speaker 9: spend with them, like saying them would have come off bad.

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Speaker 9: I agree, but he really just said, like, Paul On,

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Speaker 9: are week here or something like that, And then I

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Speaker 9: just got to the Beckham scene when Brady's in the

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Speaker 9: limo and he said, you know, it's that thing stupid

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Speaker 9: not to give Beckham a kit or something like that,

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Speaker 9: and then described like, hey, he has energy. He feels

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Speaker 9: like he was treated well, he's gonna go home and

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Speaker 9: root for the team and publicize or whatever. So I

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Speaker 9: don't know, I just I look at this like I'm

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Speaker 9: loving it. I think the Brady message he's said shits

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Speaker 9: like those like little ignorant moments are kind of funny.

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Speaker 5: He's just he's just.

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Speaker 9: Saying, like, guys, I am great, I am going. He's like,

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Speaker 9: good talent can win you games, but sustained greatness is

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Speaker 9: like systemic, it's up process as leadership. It's the New

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Speaker 9: England Patriots. Like I get all that, and that's what

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Speaker 9: he's gonna come off.

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Speaker 10: Like.

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Speaker 9: I think the only way he'll look stupid in this.

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Speaker 9: Tell me if you guys disagree, is if the team

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Speaker 9: ends up failing and is not good, you know.

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Speaker 4: Well, yeah they headed in that direction, maybe they're headed back. Yeah.

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Speaker 5: See yeah, I mean in the first season that Tom

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Speaker 5: was the owner, he got them relegated because of his decisions,

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Speaker 5: so that would be an instance of failing. Although they

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Speaker 5: fly through it and it's only one episode, but it's

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Speaker 5: actually a full year of soccer or close to anyway.

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Speaker 5: But now I agree with everything that that person just said.

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Speaker 5: I love it. I think it's great. It's just an

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Speaker 5: interesting look from him.

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Speaker 2: That's one hour two more to go. Sterling Sharp will

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Speaker 2: join us see Packer's Hall of Famer a little later

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Speaker 2: on more of your phone calls as well. Hour two

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Speaker 2: on the way after this