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Speaker 3: Said, we've got forty days, what do you talk about it?
Speaker 3: Forty four forty four days? Forty four days?
Speaker 2: And of course with Thomas amount of days.
Speaker 4: Exactly with a little bit of free agency talk here
Speaker 4: of the last couple of days as well. I mean,
Speaker 4: this is starting to ramp up quickly. And of course
Speaker 4: everybody's looking at these free agents. They're looking at the
Speaker 4: signings and the non signings and the possible trade options.
Speaker 4: But we're all kind of looking at it at how
Speaker 4: the hell is this going to affect the NFL Draft
Speaker 4: whenever it comes around in April.
Speaker 3: So brought us?
Speaker 4: I mean, what type of what is this time like
Speaker 4: from a scouting standpoint, when you're looking across the board
Speaker 4: and you're saying, Okay, we don't have this guy anymore, right,
Speaker 4: but we have this guy?
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know you kind of knew going into the
Speaker 3: draft who you were probably going to have and who
Speaker 3: you weren't going to have because you had the ideas of, like, okay,
Speaker 3: you have these meetings before actually free agents starts, and
Speaker 3: so you're thinking, like, Okay, this is how our team
Speaker 3: is going to be. I think right now what you're
Speaker 3: seeing is a little bit of an influence from the
Speaker 3: coaching staff, the new coaching staff. You know, if you
Speaker 3: look at some of the uh, I know that we're
Speaker 3: gonna I don't know, we allowed to talk about what
Speaker 3: happened with the Jets today with that signing with Okay, Okay,
Speaker 3: I didn't got Yeah, you know, there's a there's some
Speaker 3: connections there, and so you know that's something that you
Speaker 3: kind of look at. You you had an idea of
Speaker 3: really probably from Indianapolis, what it was going to take
Speaker 3: to to keep Jordan Lewis, to keep Golst and things
Speaker 3: like that. So you kind of know going into okay,
Speaker 3: we're probably not going to have those positions. Do we
Speaker 3: need to address these other positions. I find it interesting
Speaker 3: with the depth of the defensive tackle draft that the
Speaker 3: way that they've they've they've you know, and I know
Speaker 3: signing Osa was important to him, and you know, and
Speaker 3: but also though with the Solomon Thomas one, you know again,
Speaker 3: are they looking for depth at the position? It is
Speaker 3: to me, is you know, you're you're taking money and
Speaker 3: you're putting it towards uh, you know, you're putting it
Speaker 3: towards a defensive line position where it is in the draft,
Speaker 3: and maybe they don't want to sit there and double dip,
Speaker 3: like we've talked about in some positions, I would have
Speaker 3: double dipped at tackle out of double dip probably at
Speaker 3: running back too. But I think that, like I say,
Speaker 3: they had an idea going in who they were going
Speaker 3: to lose, and then now you kind of try and
Speaker 3: make up some some positions there. Signing the guard as well,
Speaker 3: Robert Jones is a is another thing that probably uh
Speaker 3: you know, is uh they looked at as a depth
Speaker 3: piece as well.
Speaker 6: How about instead of double dipping at running back and
Speaker 6: defensive tackle. I can entertain you on triple dipping at
Speaker 6: cornerback triple I would.
Speaker 3: I would, I would absolutely, Yeah, I think the cornerback
Speaker 3: I you know that to me, there's there's I know,
Speaker 3: you guys boards probably the same as mine in the
Speaker 3: way of the number of players you've seen, Uh, you know,
Speaker 3: there's clearly some guys that could play on the outside
Speaker 3: and play inside as well. Yeah, you know, replacing Jordan Lewis.
Speaker 3: You know, it's not impossible here. There's some really good
Speaker 3: players in this draft. You can truly address that with.
Speaker 4: It is really interesting that you do bring up the
Speaker 4: double dip conversation, because if we were to have this
Speaker 4: show last week and ask the question of what position
Speaker 4: is most likely to see a double dip on, we
Speaker 4: probably would have all said defensive tackle, running back, and
Speaker 4: offensive line, and those are where they've spent the money initially,
Speaker 4: right off the jump, Does that deter you from making
Speaker 4: a premium pick in any of those positions?
Speaker 3: I certainly don't think so.
Speaker 4: I think they can make a premium pick at all
Speaker 4: three of those positions first, second, and third round. And
Speaker 4: I still think i'd be okay even with the signing
Speaker 4: of Javonte Williams and Robert Jones and Solomon Thomas.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm with you on that. I don't think any
Speaker 2: of this. I mean, look at guard. Maybe they're not
Speaker 2: going to go guard in the first round.
Speaker 5: Think they're be kind of telling us that at the combine,
Speaker 5: And that's something that we kicked around as well. They
Speaker 5: liked a lot of the guys. They wanted to see
Speaker 5: some second year jumps, certainly from the rookies. You know,
Speaker 5: Hoffman they bring back in the fold, let him compete.
Speaker 5: Maybe Jones and him are competing for that right guard spot.
Speaker 5: So I don't know that. Hey, maybe they do love
Speaker 5: a Tyler Booker out of Alabama. Maybe he is in play,
Speaker 5: but that's probably not an area that I envisioned they'd
Speaker 5: go now in the first round. After what they've done.
Speaker 5: I still think defensive tackle could be in play personally.
Speaker 5: I mean, Salomon Thomas is a rotational depths right, He's
Speaker 5: not a guy that was starting with the New York Jets.
Speaker 5: So they needed somebody that they could also count on
Speaker 5: behind Mazie, behind Osa. I mean, there's still a ton
Speaker 5: of depth options end that they could look at.
Speaker 3: Corner.
Speaker 5: I still think very much in play. It was already
Speaker 5: a need for them. I mean, they were hoping probably
Speaker 5: to get Jordan Lewis back. I'm sure he was number
Speaker 5: two on their priority list as soon as they got
Speaker 5: done with Osi, let's pivot, let's try and get Jordan Lewis.
Speaker 5: Congratulations to him on the big contract that he got.
Speaker 5: But I'm sure fans now are like, oh my gosh
Speaker 5: blinking light. I think we've all been sitting here, like
Speaker 5: man corner, that's definitely a spot with the digs injury
Speaker 5: that you need to focus on.
Speaker 2: I think everything is still in play.
Speaker 3: I can even signing Lewis, you would have probably gone.
Speaker 2: Corner absolutely right. Is how long would that have deally
Speaker 2: have been?
Speaker 7: Right?
Speaker 2: Just a year or two?
Speaker 5: And you've got health issues with a lot I mean,
Speaker 5: Josh Butler went down last year, so the.
Speaker 4: Whole cornerback groom went down at some.
Speaker 5: Point, and then linebacker, right, I mean, I know that
Speaker 5: they've put some resources in overshown lea foul and both
Speaker 5: of them look like they're going to be good players,
Speaker 5: but you don't know when you're gonna have to marveyn
Speaker 5: overshown for this year. Dimone Clark's a guy. Is he
Speaker 5: necessarily going to be on the Ross draft or training camp?
Speaker 5: I don't know for sure? Can you rely on him?
Speaker 5: So linebacker's definitely in play. I mean, I don't think
Speaker 5: there's a single position that you're looking at outside of
Speaker 5: maybe safety that they're like, we've got some quality depth here.
Speaker 2: No, I would agree with that.
Speaker 8: I think when you look at the defensive line with
Speaker 8: the Solomon Thomas signing. He with Chauncey Golson expected to
Speaker 8: go to the New York Times, that was reported last night.
Speaker 8: I think that he's kind of the new Chauncey Golson
Speaker 8: just in terms of he can play defensive tackling and
Speaker 8: play in line, and he can play off the edge too,
Speaker 8: and that's what kind of what he's.
Speaker 2: Been used over the course of his career.
Speaker 8: You know, he Copel High school graduate, so he's coming
Speaker 8: back to dall He's born in Chicago, but he's coming
Speaker 8: back to Dallas.
Speaker 2: So that's an interesting time of this too.
Speaker 5: With Connor Williams and Hell at the same time, I
Speaker 5: think they were together there there you go.
Speaker 2: That's pretty good. Yeah.
Speaker 8: And then two, when you look at his time with
Speaker 8: Aaron White, Connon he had the most sacks of his
Speaker 8: entire career when he was working with the New York Jets.
Speaker 8: He had nine career sacks over the course of three years.
Speaker 8: So you know, this is the these three signings in
Speaker 8: Solomon Tom or excuse me, term agreements in Solomon Thomas,
Speaker 8: Robert Jones, and Javonte Williams. I completely agree with you
Speaker 8: guys that it's not you know, these guys aren't going
Speaker 8: to be guys who you want starting or playing a
Speaker 8: majority of your snaps. These are death pieces that you
Speaker 8: want to use to compliment in the draft, because even
Speaker 8: Jerry Jones told us the other day that he's not
Speaker 8: looking to fill void's in free agency. They're looking to
Speaker 8: build through the draft, and that's going to continue to
Speaker 8: be the case. But the question then is my biggest
Speaker 8: question is what do you do at twelve because there's
Speaker 8: so many different things in terms of Okay, now that
Speaker 8: you've got Javonte Williams in the boat, do you feel
Speaker 8: like you can get a running back later on in
Speaker 8: the later rounds that can compliment him, or are you
Speaker 8: still willing to pick an Ashton genty if he's there
Speaker 8: for you is wide receiver, you know, more of an
Speaker 8: Eater's wide receiver. Remove that they kind of fill or
Speaker 8: address here in the next coming days. I think one
Speaker 8: name that we're not talking about as much as we
Speaker 8: should at twelve is Mikel Williams out of Georgia. I
Speaker 8: feel like that's very much in play the defensive end
Speaker 8: out of Georgia. I think that he had a good
Speaker 8: combine and he had a great meeting with the Cowboys. Yeah,
Speaker 8: I think that's one guy that they like a lot.
Speaker 3: I think you could throw Williams into that mix.
Speaker 4: You could throw maybe some of those corners that we've
Speaker 4: mentioned before into that mix as well. Do you feel
Speaker 4: like edge rusher because they haven't addressed that either. You
Speaker 4: feel like ed rusher is still a position they could
Speaker 4: possibly hit that high in the draft and feel comfortable
Speaker 4: leaving those other positions to the side.
Speaker 6: Yeah, especially if DeMarcus Lawrence is not back into the fold.
Speaker 6: See mike Keil Williams being firing up the highlights here.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 6: I mean he's good in the run game. He's a big,
Speaker 6: physical guy. He could seal the edge in the run game,
Speaker 6: and he could also get after the pass or two.
Speaker 6: I feel like it would be a healthy transition from
Speaker 6: you know, the bigger set run defense dominant DeMarcus Lawrence.
Speaker 6: If you're trying to go young at that position, it's
Speaker 6: tough to find a better guy than MIKEL Williams. That
Speaker 6: kind of mirrors what DeMarcus Lawrence can do from a
Speaker 6: run game perspective and a password's perspective. Now, he's not
Speaker 6: gonna be DeMarcus Lawrence. Date one I'm not saying that, yeah,
Speaker 6: but I think this is a guy you could develop
Speaker 6: into that type of type of talent for sure.
Speaker 3: Is twelve to too rich for a guy that just
Speaker 3: really plays the run, well.
Speaker 6: Yeah, And that's that's part of the question too. Maybe
Speaker 6: it's a trade back possibility. But if it's if you're
Speaker 6: asking me and hey, you're at twelve and you can
Speaker 6: find a tango partner and you take this guy with
Speaker 6: a few of these guys that we've talked about throughout
Speaker 6: the course of the year off the board, I wouldn't
Speaker 6: be I wouldn't be upset at it.
Speaker 3: If you told me that Simmons from Ohio State, the
Speaker 3: tackle was there and I'm hearing all clean now about
Speaker 3: that knee with the pinella stuff. Talked to a couple
Speaker 3: of different teams about him. Probably not going to have
Speaker 3: him for the OTAs, but you're going to have him
Speaker 3: for training camp. If you gave me a choice between
Speaker 3: Simmons and mike L Williams there, I take the tackle
Speaker 3: all day on that one. Just me personally.
Speaker 2: I've got his.
Speaker 6: Eyes personally on Simmons, but I understand the affinity there.
Speaker 3: And spending your guy you're high on then would you
Speaker 3: be Campbell or Bank?
Speaker 6: Campbell, Banks? Those those are the first round guys. Aside
Speaker 6: from that, it's it's there's a tier.
Speaker 3: Jonk Okay, but you would take a tackle then over
Speaker 3: Williams or would you take Williams over one of these tackles?
Speaker 6: Well, factoring in that I have both of them at guard,
Speaker 6: I would probably I would probably, Uh, you're you're.
Speaker 3: Asking me, I'm asking you which one would it would? Okay? Yeah?
Speaker 3: Do you feel strongly enough about Campbell and Banks as guards?
Speaker 3: Take over Williams.
Speaker 6: If Campbell's on the board, I'm taking Campbell, I have.
Speaker 6: The more I watch from Campbell, the more I like,
Speaker 6: especially from the twenty twenty three tape. But if if
Speaker 6: Banks is there, I'm taking Williams.
Speaker 4: See I'm the opposite. I would take Banks over Williams.
Speaker 4: But I would take Williams over Campbell. In that regards Simmons.
Speaker 5: Over both camp I think Simmons is the best offensive
Speaker 5: tackle in the class.
Speaker 2: Personally, sure, I would go Banks over Williams. We know
Speaker 2: you're going.
Speaker 3: We can't hate on him. Texas was a really good team.
Speaker 4: No, I think John barn is a conversation at twelve
Speaker 4: two and we're not talking about it. I mean, I
Speaker 4: know that maybe a trade down this the long the
Speaker 4: arm length, and maybe he doesn't meet the metrics and
Speaker 4: the profile that a lot of scouts are gonna want.
Speaker 4: Maybe twelve would be too high for a Jodda barn that.
Speaker 4: I think the tape's good enough.
Speaker 5: I'd take him personally, I Will Johnson, I've got some
Speaker 5: question marks.
Speaker 2: I think Will Johnson he's not going to run.
Speaker 3: He's not going to run till April fourteenth, and.
Speaker 5: In the twenty twenty three tape is better than twenty
Speaker 5: twenty four. But yeah, there's a lot of questions. You
Speaker 5: can't know until what ten days before the draft, is
Speaker 5: he is.
Speaker 3: There's there's a hamstring injury there now, and that's the problem,
Speaker 3: and he might not run at all. You might you
Speaker 3: might be looking at Will Johnson and not have a
Speaker 3: forty yard dash time on him at all because he's
Speaker 3: carrying this thing all the way to a private workout
Speaker 3: on April fourteenth, and somebody's going to go, well, wait
Speaker 3: a minute, maybe I don't have to run on April fourteenth.
Speaker 3: You know, maybe I could just kind of, you know,
Speaker 3: keep this thing going. The hamstring's not ready. Then the
Speaker 3: next thing, you know, we're drafted. I wouldn't draft that
Speaker 3: kid without a time. I'm sorry, I wouldn't do it myself.
Speaker 3: And you can and and people can and can talk
Speaker 3: about Barron and he lacks length and all this other stuff.
Speaker 3: He is so much of a better player than Morrison
Speaker 3: in my book. You know, but but but organizations are
Speaker 3: not going to like Baron because he does not fit
Speaker 3: their metrics when it comes to the link that he
Speaker 3: his body type is.
Speaker 2: Which I hate.
Speaker 5: I mean, I know that there's probably it could be
Speaker 5: this team right here that that's behind it, and there's reasons,
Speaker 5: I'm sure, and that like they there's stats and there's
Speaker 5: history that prove like that's probably the right way to go.
Speaker 5: Just me and my young naive drafting way, I'm like,
Speaker 5: I've seen them a Sante Samuel Junior get knocked, he
Speaker 5: comes out crushes it, Antoine Winfield Junior, Like, just because
Speaker 5: you're a little bit smaller, if the tape's good enough,
Speaker 5: sign me up for johd Ay Barron. He feels a
Speaker 5: lot of what you just lost in Jordan Lewis. And
Speaker 5: if LuSE wants guys, they're gonna come up and tackle.
Speaker 5: I think John A. Barron is the guy that's not
Speaker 5: scared about throwing his body in there.
Speaker 3: Now.
Speaker 5: I'd argue for a Jacob Parrish at a case state
Speaker 5: as well, if you want to go ahead, maybe third round, yeah,
Speaker 5: seventy six, if you want to go for that rat,
Speaker 5: I'm cool with that.
Speaker 2: But I'd also just going back to ends.
Speaker 5: I mean, I'd stayed on the table for Mike Green
Speaker 5: over Mikel Williams and a heartbeat like Mike Green's my dude,
Speaker 5: I'd be advocating for him at twelve if he's there.
Speaker 5: And it sounds like some of the off the field
Speaker 5: concerns got kind of cleaned up a little bit out
Speaker 5: there in Indianapolis, which which put me at ease a little.
Speaker 5: But I think the future could be a lot brighter
Speaker 5: for a Mike Green. I think you're gonna get a steady,
Speaker 5: well rounded, probably ten year starter for Mikel Williams, but
Speaker 5: I'd like the boom prospect there in Green, who I
Speaker 5: really really am high on and excited about his potential.
Speaker 3: Nick have a question for you, yep. If you have say,
Speaker 3: fourteen first round grades, how many grade how many fifteen, fifteen,
Speaker 3: who's where do you have Williams? Do you have him
Speaker 3: in the first round.
Speaker 6: Talking about mikel Yeah, back in first round?
Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, soe see player fourteen for you.
Speaker 6: Yes, yeah, and Banks fifteen and Banks is fair.
Speaker 4: I've got him at throw CU so it's right around
Speaker 4: the same.
Speaker 3: So do you have McMillan, Burden or Abuca ahead of him? McMillan, okay,
Speaker 3: so you have those, you have the two others, So
Speaker 3: you wouldn't take a wide receiver unless it's McMillan, correct, okay,
Speaker 3: And you would take Campbell over him, right, correct? All right,
Speaker 3: and you would not take any of these corners.
Speaker 6: I feel like it's the game of go fish.
Speaker 3: No, no, no, I mean, I'm just I'm just trying
Speaker 3: to get I'm trying to see how committed you are
Speaker 3: to Michael would yes, yes, yes, okay, so but you
Speaker 3: would then on the corner. So the only player that
Speaker 3: you would really not take him over is McMillan.
Speaker 6: Uh not gent if he's there, Yeah, absolutely, I would
Speaker 6: not take him over him. Campbell. I'm trying to think
Speaker 6: of possibility. Are you talking about possibility possibilities?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 6: Uh then then yeah, that would probably be that'd probably
Speaker 6: be where I'm looking, okay.
Speaker 5: I was just wondering to see how committed you were
Speaker 5: to Michael Williams or his teammate Jayalen Walker Jaalen Walker.
Speaker 2: Yeah, me too. H but I think i'd go be gone,
Speaker 2: like he's going to be gone by the top ten.
Speaker 3: Where are they going to play him? I've where's where's
Speaker 3: team's going to play him? Edge? I mean linebacker.
Speaker 4: That's that's the thing. That's the whole debate that we've
Speaker 4: had with Vatch for the last yeah two months.
Speaker 5: No, No, there's definitely gonna be teams that see him
Speaker 5: as an off ball Yeah. I just think he's at
Speaker 5: his best when he's getting there. I think it's probably
Speaker 5: twenty teams right now.
Speaker 4: This is just an e just a sample and just
Speaker 4: a hypothetical. I think twenty teams probably see him as
Speaker 4: an off ball linebacker and twelve see him as an
Speaker 4: edge rusher. And that's just part of it. Just two
Speaker 4: thirds of the league.
Speaker 3: I talked to six that thinks he's a linebacker, okay,
Speaker 3: and one in short, they were worried about We're worried
Speaker 3: about him getting as an edge getting beat up at
Speaker 3: that size. Yeah, you said, didn't wear down Yeah, that
Speaker 3: he might wear down and you would lose the effectiveness
Speaker 3: of him, right there?
Speaker 4: Anybody that you would trade up to go get because
Speaker 4: we're talking about realistic options here. I just we've always
Speaker 4: talked about trading down and that possibility, and I still
Speaker 4: think that is very much so on the table, depending on.
Speaker 3: What the board looks like.
Speaker 4: But let's say you do go up and get someone,
Speaker 4: who would that name be for you? If if it's
Speaker 4: even possibility, I think there's three.
Speaker 5: There's I mean Travis Hunter i'd move up for Okay, McMillan,
Speaker 5: I'd move up for sure, and I think I consider
Speaker 5: Mason Dram if he started falling. Okay, that's tackle Michigan.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think I would agree with those.
Speaker 8: I think my question would be, if you do trade up,
Speaker 8: how much are you giving up to trade up?
Speaker 2: Like, does it make it?
Speaker 8: Well, it's going to be premium, right, But I don't
Speaker 8: know if I think Travis Hunter would be the only
Speaker 8: one where I'd be willing to give up premium draft
Speaker 8: capital to go and get.
Speaker 4: Are you playing them at both wide receiver and corner?
Speaker 4: I would yeah, Okay, would.
Speaker 3: You depending on let me I say this real quick,
Speaker 3: Depending on how much you really love Genty, you know,
Speaker 3: then that might be one as well. How much? Because
Speaker 3: if you're really, really really worried about if you if
Speaker 3: you covet him and you and you say that like
Speaker 3: the and you're really worried about the Bears, the problem
Speaker 3: you're going to run into is everybody has been mocking
Speaker 3: genty to the cow Boys, yeah since day one, and
Speaker 3: you worry about that sitting in that room. Can we
Speaker 3: sit there and wait till twelve? And it's a deep
Speaker 3: running back draft, I get it. But if you really
Speaker 3: really really want the player, because to me, of okay,
Speaker 3: everybody tell me that of your of your top fifteen guys,
Speaker 3: the top fifteen guys, who do you feel like is
Speaker 3: the cleanest on off the field injury wise and ability
Speaker 3: gent genty?
Speaker 6: Yeah, Yeah, that's probably there.
Speaker 3: You go, that's the guy you trade up for right
Speaker 3: there because you have questions about Carter.
Speaker 4: He's got the best best home run up.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's what I'm saying you when you look at
Speaker 3: if you're going up in the first round, say into
Speaker 3: the top ten, you're going for a guy that a
Speaker 3: is has the best ability, is the cleanest medically, and
Speaker 3: has the best off the field, character, stuff that you
Speaker 3: can deal with right there. That's that's the guy. Everybody else,
Speaker 3: everybody else seems to be deficient in something or something
Speaker 3: might keep them. I mean they're all in the top,
Speaker 3: you know, your top fifteen. But I mean I'm looking
Speaker 3: at you know, and you could say the same thing.
Speaker 3: Could you say it about Hunter? Hunter would be my
Speaker 3: second option there? Yeah, I mean I think this Hunter
Speaker 3: your first option, your second option for the cleanest, the
Speaker 3: ability and the character.
Speaker 2: I'd say genty to me, I.
Speaker 6: Guess concerns for twenty three right yeah? And obviously having
Speaker 6: that much mileage and he's going to try to play
Speaker 6: both sides at the next level, sir?
Speaker 2: Is he is that possible? Who?
Speaker 5: And where do you want to play? And where do
Speaker 5: you prefer? You want to spend time at receiver, at corner?
Speaker 6: Does he get beat up? You would have injury or
Speaker 6: at least mileage concerns with a guy like that.
Speaker 4: I'm looking at what it would even take to for
Speaker 4: somebody to jump in front. And I'm going back to
Speaker 4: twenty two Saints.
Speaker 3: You remember, look at the Saints at nine bailing out
Speaker 3: of there. That's what you have to worry if Chicago's
Speaker 3: a team. If Chicago's a team that you're legitimately worried
Speaker 3: about taking genty And I'm just saying this, I'm just
Speaker 3: you know, I don't think Dallas wild trade up for him.
Speaker 3: But if you're really gonna worry about a team, yeah,
Speaker 3: you gotta worry about the Bears. Yeah, so you have
Speaker 3: to get to nine. Well, I've got to get to nine.
Speaker 4: They want to get to eleven to get in front
Speaker 4: of you. If they want a gent too.
Speaker 5: Vegas at six could be also a spot that I
Speaker 5: could see them taking an Ashton gent Y.
Speaker 3: Yeah, they've got a.
Speaker 5: Quarterback now, Pete Carroll comes from Seattle where he wants
Speaker 5: to run the football. They're trying to rebuild things over there.
Speaker 5: What better way than you get the best back in
Speaker 5: the class, maybe the best black back that we've seen
Speaker 5: since what Barkley Beijon.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so really.
Speaker 4: That's the number that if he makes it past six,
Speaker 4: you're looking at Jets at seven, Carolina at eight, New
Speaker 4: Orleans at nine.
Speaker 3: That's gonna be where you're starting if you're going to
Speaker 3: trade up. That's the only thing I think you I
Speaker 3: think that I think the Bears make a lot of
Speaker 3: sense here. I think the Bears, and I think I
Speaker 3: think teams around the league. Now, I think Dallas and
Speaker 3: the Bears are the two teams if you were interested
Speaker 3: in Ashton Genty, those you have to get ahead of
Speaker 3: those two teams, is what I would say.
Speaker 8: I think the Raiders might be more of a threat
Speaker 8: than Ghago, just because I don't. I wonder if Pete
Speaker 8: Carroll looks at this like it says Marshawn Lynch. Yeah,
Speaker 8: And if that's the case, like that, well look at
Speaker 8: how good Marshawn Lynch Lynch was in Seattle, and so
Speaker 8: there you go.
Speaker 2: But yeah, when you do, when you do, and the ball.
Speaker 3: That one why you got to bring up old stuff.
Speaker 2: And then there're one on the like goal line super Bowl. Anyways.
Speaker 8: If I was the Raiders, though, I feel like they
Speaker 8: still need a bona fide wide receiver one. Jakobe Myers
Speaker 8: was good for them last year, don't get me wrong,
Speaker 8: but I still feel like they need that alpha dog
Speaker 8: at receiver.
Speaker 2: So I would go McMillan from Arizona Ran.
Speaker 5: As much as I love Ashton Genty, I can't justify
Speaker 5: trading him to you get him in this draft class.
Speaker 3: No, I don't think. I was just saying if you
Speaker 3: if if that's where and I'm I'm not saying they will,
Speaker 3: but that we talk about players. The question he asked was,
Speaker 3: would you who would you trade up for? Sure? You
Speaker 3: know and I you know you would consider if you
Speaker 3: saw what if what if you saw Carter sliding? Would
Speaker 3: you consider that because of the foot? I mean, is
Speaker 3: that does that not make him a clean prospect? And
Speaker 3: that maybe the potential is that foot? Is that kind
Speaker 3: of that it's starting out to be kind of some
Speaker 3: stress fracture stuff going on there.
Speaker 6: I just think you have too many needs to gamble
Speaker 6: away any capital right now, like you're trying to gain
Speaker 6: capital in this draft. That's that's where it's tough for me.
Speaker 6: But it'd be a discussion if he falls past seven,
Speaker 6: that's a discussion you have. It's like, hey, this is
Speaker 6: a quality guy. He has experienced with Micah Parsons. We
Speaker 6: know he would have a mentor that he would listen
Speaker 6: to in this locker room. However we feel about that mentor.
Speaker 6: But is this worth you know, gambling a second round pick.
Speaker 3: On so you would trade up for you would consider
Speaker 3: trade it?
Speaker 6: No, I'm just saying I'm sure for Carter. No, I'm
Speaker 6: just saying it would be a conversation. I don't think
Speaker 6: I would trade up for anybody.
Speaker 4: I don't think any of us are looking at this
Speaker 4: in this draft specifically and saying let's trade up. But
Speaker 4: if there were names that were available, I think it's
Speaker 4: that short list of guys gent Millon, Carter, possibly, like
Speaker 4: you said, Travis Hunter, just guys like that across the board.
Speaker 4: But even then that's a stretch, and that's if you
Speaker 4: really don't like what you're gonna get at twelve. And
Speaker 4: I think by this point we've kind of already established
Speaker 4: that someone's gonna be there that's worth taking at twelve
Speaker 4: without giving up draft capital in order to get up
Speaker 4: and go get it. I mean, we were talking going
Speaker 4: back to twenty twenty one when the Bears traded from
Speaker 4: twenty up to eleven to get to justin Fields. They
Speaker 4: gave up a fourth round that year, they flipped picks
Speaker 4: in the first round, and Chicago gave up their first
Speaker 4: round and a third.
Speaker 3: Round the year after that to jump up.
Speaker 4: So like, it's gonna be premium, and that's going from
Speaker 4: twenty to eleven. Imagine what it would be going from
Speaker 4: twelve to seven or six or eight or nine, you know,
Speaker 4: just to kind of get into that territory in order
Speaker 4: to trade up for all right, we got to take
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Speaker 3: On the twenty I just tweeted it out a moment ago. Yeah, yeah,
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Speaker 2: That's good.
Speaker 3: Kind of sounds weird, uh, all right?
Speaker 4: Trey asked, how do you guys feel about the Day
Speaker 4: three or Day two?
Speaker 3: Day three safeties?
Speaker 4: He wanted to know about Jonas Sankers anybody watched Anker
Speaker 4: from Virginia? Absolutely, I have what do you think about him?
Speaker 4: Hometown product? He says he's from Charlottesville, so he wants to.
Speaker 3: Know about him.
Speaker 4: But any other the other of those other safeties later
Speaker 4: in the draft that you'd be interested in.
Speaker 3: But Sankard did he want to know about y? Yeah?
Speaker 3: Hold on one second here, only get out of my
Speaker 3: notes here with with with Sanker, Waima looking at corners.
Speaker 3: His kid's a safety, Brian Uh Sanker, Yeah, he Uh,
Speaker 3: he's a he's a two time All acc performer, and
Speaker 3: he's got some interesting traits. I feel like you could
Speaker 3: play him up or you could play him back, and
Speaker 3: you're gonna have a pretty nice player with this guy.
Speaker 3: He's got size, he's got a nose for the ball.
Speaker 3: He's an effort player. He'll come out of nowhere to
Speaker 3: make plays. He tends to the ball, tends to bounce
Speaker 3: his direction. I think he can come down hill really quickly.
Speaker 7: Uh.
Speaker 3: He triggers quickly. I really like that about his game.
Speaker 3: He'll see him wrap up in space. You can be
Speaker 3: physical doing it. He did have his share of some
Speaker 3: misses though, too. Uh. But he's the type of guy
Speaker 3: that could stop the ball carrier in his tracks, power, strength,
Speaker 3: instincts as a man, cover guy. Uh, breaking on the football, disruptive.
Speaker 3: Uh that I you know, I just kind of have
Speaker 3: a You see a guy that kind of he didn't
Speaker 3: ever come off the field. You mean he's a gunner,
Speaker 3: he's a flyer, he's a kickoff cover man, he's a
Speaker 3: field goal rusher, he's got a he's a he's got
Speaker 3: a knack for coming off the edge and blocking kicks.
Speaker 3: I mean, he's gonna give you a lot of plays
Speaker 3: if you take him to the game. Six foot, two
Speaker 3: hundred and six pounds out of Virginia. So I like
Speaker 3: the toughness of the kid. Uh. And then, like I say, if,
Speaker 3: as Bill Parcells would say, when I take you to
Speaker 3: the game, how many players are gonna give me? This
Speaker 3: kid's gonna give you a lot of plays. The way
Speaker 3: he with, the way he goes about his job. Where
Speaker 3: do you have him? I'm the fourth round? Nice?
Speaker 4: Okay, what do you think about some of those other
Speaker 4: Day three guys? That's safety zactly?
Speaker 7: Well?
Speaker 5: How about okay, this is a guy that measurable wise.
Speaker 5: I don't think that the people. I mean I think
Speaker 5: he got snubbed from the combine. But Dan Jackson from Georgia, Like,
Speaker 5: if you watch Georgia tape, Dan Jackson's the guy that
Speaker 5: all of a sudden, he's kind of he's flashing at
Speaker 5: you a little bit.
Speaker 3: He gets snubb from the combine. He's at the Senior
Speaker 3: Bowl but did not go to the combine.
Speaker 2: Slow a little bit.
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, but they laugh like that it was it
Speaker 6: was an inside joke.
Speaker 2: But uh it's uh, well I know where Yeah, I'm not.
Speaker 2: I get it. I get it.
Speaker 3: I'm not the.
Speaker 6: Biggest day of Jackson, I understand.
Speaker 2: I think he could be a good special team guy
Speaker 2: for sure.
Speaker 6: Absolutely this team. If you're asking about this team seventh
Speaker 6: round and Shiloh Sanders is still on the board, you
Speaker 6: think that they pull the trigger.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that that.
Speaker 6: I think it happens a one one day two slash
Speaker 6: day three. I kind of have him on that fringe.
Speaker 6: Guy that I heard a lot about in Indianapolis, and
Speaker 6: I really like seeing up close in person. Jalen Reid
Speaker 6: out of Penn State. Yeah, this is a guy who's
Speaker 6: gaining a lot of love from training circles in the
Speaker 6: pre NFL draft process. He's training out in Exos in Arizona,
Speaker 6: doing a really strong job out there against some really
Speaker 6: talented guys. But plays downhill, He's he's feisty, he's only uh,
Speaker 6: he's only He's got average size from that safety spot.
Speaker 6: But I think you can play him in multiple spots.
Speaker 6: You see him lining up at safety, you see him
Speaker 6: lining up at nickel, even outside corner at times. But
Speaker 6: I think he can really take on that deep safety
Speaker 6: role if a team were to ask him to. But
Speaker 6: he's a thumper man. You get him hill and he'll
Speaker 6: lay a hat on you think.
Speaker 3: But he looked at Latham Ransom from Ohio State.
Speaker 6: If Ransom is a guy I have a lot of
Speaker 6: experience with going back from to recruiting days, and I
Speaker 6: feel like every year he's played, he's regressed. That's the
Speaker 6: only thing that I worry about. But I still think
Speaker 6: he's a really fine player. I just wonder if if
Speaker 6: maybe there's some there's an extra layer of development that
Speaker 6: he needs to take at the NFL level.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think to me, he's stale with a lot
Speaker 3: of injuries in his career, but maybe it's a true
Speaker 3: free safety. He might be a guy you wanted to
Speaker 3: take a look at there in that fourth round.
Speaker 2: And then day three.
Speaker 5: I think Brian We've talked about him before with Billy
Speaker 5: Bowman Junior, Dan Ryan Raider, and I might be shouting
Speaker 5: him out because I've got a soft spot for him,
Speaker 5: got to cover him in high school. But I mean
Speaker 5: that's a dude that's got He's a former corner converted
Speaker 5: over to safety. I think Billy Bowman Junior, if you
Speaker 5: just want to take a flyer on a dude who
Speaker 5: could be a splash type of player for you, not
Speaker 5: not shy away from going down hill and in some people.
Speaker 6: He's stout, like yeah, very he he's he's a he's
Speaker 6: got a load.
Speaker 2: Also senior bowl guy, Yeah he is. He's got a load. Yeah,
Speaker 2: he'll drop that ass on You.
Speaker 3: Think the thing about him is his his his lack
Speaker 3: of height, very short. I think that's I think that's
Speaker 3: something that's going to kind of make people.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I think that's going to push him down the by.
Speaker 5: I think that's why he's definitely three dude.
Speaker 8: Yeah, I'll give you one more thumper. Jalen Catalan from
Speaker 8: U N l V. I know the injury history with
Speaker 8: him is is something that jal.
Speaker 3: Is this the was this the guy from Arkansas, Texas
Speaker 3: Arkansas Texas un L He didn't he didn't play very
Speaker 3: well at Texas.
Speaker 2: I think injury.
Speaker 8: Injury was a very very big part of that, and
Speaker 8: kind of had Arkansas too. He was an All SEC player,
Speaker 8: I think his his freshman year and then he just
Speaker 8: kind of went went downhill a little bit with the injuries.
Speaker 8: But un l V last year ninety six tackles five picks.
Speaker 2: When he's healthy.
Speaker 3: He's actually going back to school. He's going to always
Speaker 3: going back.
Speaker 2: He's at Missouri.
Speaker 6: Now, how is he going back to? What way he
Speaker 6: is he is.
Speaker 3: At Missouri now?
Speaker 2: The COVID year, you know, Yeah.
Speaker 4: He had any remember being very sorry that is I'm
Speaker 4: sitting in this very studio before it was redone talking
Speaker 4: about I'm already jailing catalog during his time in Mansfield
Speaker 4: Legacy and Chris Bean was punching it in the.
Speaker 3: Back when we were doing high school sports.
Speaker 5: He was one of the best high school players I
Speaker 5: think we've seen. I mean, this guy was projected to
Speaker 5: be a first rounder a couple of years.
Speaker 4: Again, well now he's going to be a first rounder
Speaker 4: after a great after.
Speaker 2: Hey, we're year early I like, you're just getting the
Speaker 2: ahead of the game.
Speaker 6: I'll throw in a DFW guy who is who is
Speaker 6: in this class? R J Mickens out of Clemson, sixty
Speaker 6: career games, over two thousand career snaps. If you're talking
Speaker 6: about experience, you want a guy who can step in
Speaker 6: and kind of give you that high floor from an
Speaker 6: experience perspective.
Speaker 3: R J.
Speaker 6: Mickens is that guy. I don't think he'll bring a
Speaker 6: starter caliber a play to you, but if you're looking
Speaker 6: for a safety in the sixth or seventh round, I
Speaker 6: think that's potentially your guy.
Speaker 4: Uh.
Speaker 6: And then Andrew mccooba out of Texas is slowly starting
Speaker 6: to rise in draft circles. I mean, this is a
Speaker 6: guy who's probably gonna end up slowly.
Speaker 2: Why why, yeah, what is taking everybody so long?
Speaker 6: On my I'm wondering the same thing. Because he's got
Speaker 6: the length, he's got the ball skills. He can certainly play.
Speaker 6: I think either free or strong. I think you can
Speaker 6: put them in either spot at the next level. Really
Speaker 6: talented player that I think is going to end up
Speaker 6: going early Day three.
Speaker 3: I'm finishing up my drafted bio.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm finishing up to draft bios for the magazine
Speaker 4: today and I'm on safety and I'm trying to finish
Speaker 4: those up. I was watching mccuba right before walking down
Speaker 4: here to do talking, and I was really impressed. I'm thinking,
Speaker 4: I'm I haven't finished him yet. I'm probably thinking like
Speaker 4: a second round.
Speaker 3: I was. I forgot think too, like Watts starksmcuba. I
Speaker 3: think those are kind of the guys.
Speaker 2: Ye at forty four, how do you have those? I
Speaker 2: would be fighting for Watson Macuba.
Speaker 3: I would go.
Speaker 6: I think he would be there at seventy six.
Speaker 5: Mcuba, I think he would, dude, I'd throw a freaking party.
Speaker 5: That'd be like Cooper BB two point zero. And I
Speaker 5: ask you, I mean, and I trust what you're saying.
Speaker 5: Why would you think seventy six?
Speaker 6: It's just from what I've heard from people is that
Speaker 6: they they're like, man, this could be an early day
Speaker 6: three guy. I'm like early day three. I'm thinking like two,
Speaker 6: like what kind of value. I just wonder what teams
Speaker 6: are putting value on him at?
Speaker 3: Is it size?
Speaker 4: I mean, but there are other guys that are under
Speaker 4: six foot that are having some success. I mean, we
Speaker 4: talked about Billy Bowman Junr that set's five foot nine, right,
Speaker 4: I mean they there are other guys in this draft
Speaker 4: that are knocked for the height, and Macuba might be
Speaker 4: knocked for the hype.
Speaker 3: But man, his tape is speaking. I just you know,
Speaker 3: the tape is. I think it's excellent. You can watch
Speaker 3: him play against a and ingwatch Mully's playoff games and
Speaker 3: stuff like that, and play. You know, if you look
Speaker 3: at the metrics, his quarterback rating against him was the
Speaker 3: fourth best in the country. You know. I mean he's
Speaker 3: got some quality forced in incompletion of twenty six percent
Speaker 3: of the passes he's faced this season. This guy's got
Speaker 3: some ballhawk in to him, you know. And and I
Speaker 3: and he didn't give up a touchdown and coverage. I think,
Speaker 3: to me, when you watch him play, I'm surprised that
Speaker 3: that the reason. Like I say, I saw a twitchy guy.
Speaker 3: I saw a guy it plays with burst, so I
Speaker 3: guy it plays with his eyes. Saw a guy that
Speaker 3: triggers in support. That's why I had him in the
Speaker 3: second round. I mean, like I said, you can watch him.
Speaker 3: You can watch them these All Star games and get
Speaker 3: and get a pretty nice view of them. Even go
Speaker 3: about you watched the Michigan game. There is another one
Speaker 3: that's very very early in the season. So I think
Speaker 3: this guy's got some special qualities to him. I think
Speaker 3: I think this is my last line in the in
Speaker 3: the thing I think I said, I think media scouts
Speaker 3: are behind this guy in my opinion, is what I said.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm with you, very behind, very behind. He's got
Speaker 2: great eyes.
Speaker 8: I think he looks the quarterback really well and is
Speaker 8: able to get into the right spots in past coverage
Speaker 8: and that's why he was able to.
Speaker 2: Pick the ball away.
Speaker 8: He had a great first year at Clemson and then
Speaker 8: you kind of just felt like it was like, where
Speaker 8: where'd he go?
Speaker 2: Where did he go?
Speaker 8: And then he comes back to Texas and it must
Speaker 8: have just worked out better for him because he was excellent.
Speaker 3: He did a nice job.
Speaker 6: He did really the zimbabwe native. Yes, that's so he
Speaker 6: would he would qualify for IPP at the very least
Speaker 6: cool there was anything to put him on the practice
Speaker 6: squad for, but I don't think there's nothing now. But
Speaker 6: the thing, the thing that's tough about this player when
Speaker 6: it comes to the Cowboys is safety. Seventy six. Yeah,
Speaker 6: we would love to grab him a seventy six, But
Speaker 6: then you're giving up another need somewhere else. And we
Speaker 6: just talked about safety earlier in the show. It's like, yeah,
Speaker 6: that's probably something you don't need to spend a premium
Speaker 6: pick one. It's just tough. You wish you were in
Speaker 6: a position where you could spend a seventy six on
Speaker 6: this type of player, and who knows, maybe they do.
Speaker 6: I mean, we look back to last year and they
Speaker 6: took Marshaw Niland in the second round. I think we
Speaker 6: were all looking at each other like, that's not necessarily
Speaker 6: a need. But credit to them for taking BPA. But
Speaker 6: it's giving up a whole lot another spot, and in
Speaker 6: that case it was running back or a linebacker. At
Speaker 6: the time, we didn't think woul get addressed, but they
Speaker 6: ended up swinging back with lea ful. Sure, that's what
Speaker 6: makes it tough for this guy at seventy six.
Speaker 3: So there's question number one of Twitter.
Speaker 4: On the twenty, Levi asked if a draft, if you
Speaker 4: draft a first round offensive tackle.
Speaker 3: Such as Simmons, as that's why I.
Speaker 4: Would take Talking about earlier Campbell, what is your best five?
Speaker 4: Who are you playing and where are you playing them?
Speaker 4: On this Cowboys offensive line?
Speaker 3: Kind of interesting I play Simmons at left tackle, put
Speaker 3: May Smith that left guard, play bb B BB at center.
Speaker 3: There's going to be a battle. Like I say, I
Speaker 3: think Robert Jones will compete, and I agree. I saw
Speaker 3: a tweet this morning from Simi from Nick, Yeah, and
Speaker 3: I think I got this right. Nick, you kind of
Speaker 3: felt like that basically that Affman and Bass are better players.
Speaker 6: I think, so I don't. I don't disagree.
Speaker 3: I don't. I don't disagree with you on that. So
Speaker 3: whoever competes their right guard, and then you know, then
Speaker 3: you're going to see what happens with Steel. And you know,
Speaker 3: I saw I saw Steel in this draft by the way,
Speaker 3: you guys seen Lunt the kid from uh from Connecticut.
Speaker 2: Yeah, did you like it?
Speaker 6: Yeah?
Speaker 3: I did. Yukon Yeah, yu konn Yeah. Fourth round. So yeah,
Speaker 3: that's that's kind of where I but to me, that's
Speaker 3: those are my those my five guys, and like we'll
Speaker 3: see what happens. Let Geyton compete, you know with with
Speaker 3: Steele at right at right right tackle.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm definitely Josh Simmons would play left tackle for me,
Speaker 5: Like I think he'd instantly be He's a better prospect
Speaker 5: than I think Guyton was a year ago for.
Speaker 4: Showing Lunt on the on the highlights. This is Terrence Steele.
Speaker 4: According to to Brian, when you look at it, it's
Speaker 4: got the big numbers, just.
Speaker 2: A big block.
Speaker 3: This guy. Okay, you want to play lead, lead block
Speaker 3: and pend and poll, you want to play all those things?
Speaker 3: This guy right here can can absolutely do. He plays
Speaker 3: really well in space. His his range is really really good.
Speaker 6: He can he when he.
Speaker 3: Connects onto to his uh, to his blockers, to the defenders,
Speaker 3: he could stay with them. This guy's a really good
Speaker 3: foot athlete. I I am usually really wrong with these
Speaker 3: about these guys because they're not strong enough. But I've
Speaker 3: gotten burned over the years with with guys. You know,
Speaker 3: with all these guys that those uh, those Colorado kids
Speaker 3: that were all undersized the U c l A tackled
Speaker 3: one year that went to the Raiders. Every year, I
Speaker 3: get these these guys wrong. This kid, those are really
Speaker 3: good player. Though.
Speaker 6: For you, a guy that I felt like was uh
Speaker 6: Terrence Steele, Like was Marcus bo out of Purdue. Yeah,
Speaker 6: probably a higher graded player than than a Chase Lunt,
Speaker 6: But man, I.
Speaker 2: Love if this and the third you like him as
Speaker 2: a tackler.
Speaker 3: I do like them. Anybody think about him playing center?
Speaker 6: See, he talked about that.
Speaker 5: I want to kick him inside. I love the athleticism inside.
Speaker 6: He talked about that at Senior Bowl. He's like, look,
Speaker 6: I'd be willing to play all five sp.
Speaker 2: Sure, but he's super smart.
Speaker 6: Yeah.
Speaker 4: Yeah, so I could see that he was awesome that
Speaker 4: he just sat down and started just talking to a senior.
Speaker 3: Yeah. Great, dude.
Speaker 4: A couple other questions for some Twitter on the twenty
Speaker 4: here a lot of Miles Sanders talk because I think
Speaker 4: he just got he just got released.
Speaker 3: Yeah, everybody's talking about Miles Sanders.
Speaker 4: That doesn't change anything for you guys, since there's like
Speaker 4: forty five comments about him, right, No, nothing at all.
Speaker 4: Sh Man, This is tougher than doing Twitter on the twenty. Uh,
Speaker 4: professor oh on Twitter, Matt Owen up, Matt Yeah he
Speaker 4: uh he said knowing that. Brian Schottenheimer, this guy described
Speaker 4: his running back preference, and here are some of the
Speaker 4: ways he described it. You want a guy who's got vision,
Speaker 4: he's got contact balance, balance, able to make hidden yards,
Speaker 4: a guy that's willing to run through arm tackles, catch
Speaker 4: the ball out of the backfield. Does that give you
Speaker 4: any site on the type of running back and the
Speaker 4: type of prospect that they could take whenever the draft
Speaker 4: comes around in April.
Speaker 8: Yeah, I think I think that kind of fits Ashton
Speaker 8: Gent's mold. So yeah, that fish that fits Ashton Genzy's mold.
Speaker 2: I think Devin Neil.
Speaker 8: Out of Kansas there's another running back that fits that
Speaker 8: mold just because of what he can do. Scataboo as
Speaker 8: a pass catcher. Yeah, Scataboo. I guess I'm not as
Speaker 8: high on on scatterb oh No.
Speaker 3: I mean, but if you look at guys that broke
Speaker 3: tackles right out right and they catch the catch out
Speaker 3: of the backfield, and mean that's clearly if you if
Speaker 3: you watched is it Tutting from Virginia Tech? You guys
Speaker 3: watched him? Yeah?
Speaker 5: See he he had a blazing time at the combine.
Speaker 5: But no, I haven't watched him yet.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Him speed, Like did that translate when you watched him?
Speaker 3: He plays really fast. I mean, and there's a kid
Speaker 3: uh in cross key merrit. Yeah, he's got an interesting
Speaker 3: you know, he was fascinating. You have to watch him.
Speaker 3: You have to watch him play. He started off at
Speaker 3: at Alabama A and M and ended up in New Mexico.
Speaker 3: So you're gonna have to watch the Mexico tape because
Speaker 3: he only played at Arizona one year. He was academic
Speaker 3: one one game, one game, So yeah, you're gonna have
Speaker 3: to watch New Mexico tape. Try and grab the Texas
Speaker 3: A and M game if you can. Is it one that.
Speaker 6: It wasn't an academic and eligible I just want to
Speaker 6: make sure that's that was cleared up. It was an
Speaker 6: NCAA eligibility rule. They didn't think that he was supposed
Speaker 6: to be eligible, and so he thought he was and
Speaker 6: he was portal landed at Arizona. Everything was cool and dandy,
Speaker 6: and then after the first game of the season, the
Speaker 6: NCAA was like, wait, you're not eligible and they pulled
Speaker 6: his eligibility. It was after strange that so it happened
Speaker 6: to do with his freshman season at Alabama A and M. Right,
Speaker 6: he was credited for I think eight games, but he claims,
Speaker 6: and the school claims. Alabama A and M claims that
Speaker 6: he only played in three games. So like he was like,
Speaker 6: I preserved my red shirt, my friend year and NCAA
Speaker 6: they can They were like, no, you played eight games.
Speaker 6: But even though everybody under the sun is like this
Speaker 6: guy only played three games. Really strange that you run
Speaker 6: into that problem in twenty twenty.
Speaker 3: That sounds like a book kicking thing.
Speaker 6: Yeah, it sounds like a nineteen seventies issues, Like.
Speaker 4: Somebody, somebody in the press box was just like right
Speaker 4: in that starters.
Speaker 6: Yeah, you know, really tough for that. I feel for him,
Speaker 6: But he's Shrine Bowl MVP, really talented player. Yeah, he's
Speaker 6: just probably gonna be a UDF.
Speaker 2: Well he I mean all the Shrine Bowl practices, he
Speaker 2: was a standout.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Cross and he can catch the ball. Yeah, I mean
Speaker 2: he's he's.
Speaker 6: Right fresh legsy, fresh legs. Another guy that I'd like
Speaker 6: to throw in this mix is Damien Martinez. I'm going
Speaker 6: to continue to hammer his name. I have a third
Speaker 6: round grade on him. Six foot, two hundred and thirty
Speaker 6: two pounds, absolute unit. He terrorizes inside. I he doesn't
Speaker 6: have the home run speed, but he can break those
Speaker 6: arm tackles we were talking about, and the receiving necks
Speaker 6: are there, they just need to be utilized. I don't
Speaker 6: think that they're necessarily utilized at Miami or Oregon State,
Speaker 6: to be honest, but I've seen those receiving next from
Speaker 6: his time in high school. He can get out of
Speaker 6: the backfield. He has route running ability. I think this
Speaker 6: is a guy you could trust out to.
Speaker 3: The Oregon State, right, yes, Oregon State. Okay, wait, you
Speaker 3: just said Martinez. He plays Miami. He transferens state or
Speaker 3: state or state. Yeah.
Speaker 4: But when you look at what he did at Miami too,
Speaker 4: and the Michigan the Bowl tape, I mean he's he's
Speaker 4: legitimate too. Are you talking about Damian Martinez? Yeah, yeah, Miami. Yeah,
Speaker 4: he went to school at Oregon State forehand. Oh yeah, Okay,
Speaker 4: I was like I got confused there for a second.
Speaker 2: Now Louisville or Louisville kid, right, Louisville kid.
Speaker 6: Yeah, and hereby shout out to Biember. He's throwing up
Speaker 6: a lot of the receiving tape on this on this
Speaker 6: clip right here, but he got it physic. I think
Speaker 6: he's a guy you do not want to see in
Speaker 6: the hole at two hundred and thirty two pounds. Now,
Speaker 6: he's just not Who.
Speaker 2: Do you have higher, Martinez or Jordan James.
Speaker 6: I have a Martinez. I'm a Martinez, stand I really,
Speaker 6: but I look, James, I'm Jordan James guy, I really am.
Speaker 6: But I told a lot of guys. I have a
Speaker 6: lot of these guys in the second and third round.
Speaker 6: I had him a young guy in that range too,
Speaker 6: but he did not run well. He did not test
Speaker 6: twealth combine and that really disappointed me. Uh so I
Speaker 6: slipped him a little bit.
Speaker 3: But that where do you have like Brooks in that group?
Speaker 3: Then Texas tech TODs Brooks.
Speaker 6: I have him. Uh let's see, I have him early fourth.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, that's why I wish we had that four.
Speaker 4: Anybody have Yeah, me too. Anybody have Rocket Sanders from
Speaker 4: South Carolina.
Speaker 3: I've not seen him.
Speaker 5: Rock Standers is a good player, yeah, solid, I mean
Speaker 5: very productive. I thought he was productive at Arkansas, he
Speaker 5: was productive in South Carolina. Can win between the tackles, obviously,
Speaker 5: can break tackles. As a receiving back. I think he
Speaker 5: did a little bit more of that at Arkansas than
Speaker 5: I saw at South Carolina. Pass protection I think could
Speaker 5: improve a little bit, but he's a willing pass protector.
Speaker 2: I like Rocket Sanders. I don't love him as much
Speaker 2: as like RJ. Harvey. I would take over him personally
Speaker 2: out of UCF. I like RJ.
Speaker 5: Harvey more than any of these guys we've actually been
Speaker 5: talking about.
Speaker 11: R J.
Speaker 2: Harvey would be my dude that fits that description.
Speaker 4: I have him over everybody except for James.
Speaker 5: But I think Rockett Sanders has been a little like
Speaker 5: in a running back him and Donovan Edwards at a
Speaker 5: Michigan like in a running back draft that it's just like, gosh,
Speaker 5: we've got so many players to talk about. He gets
Speaker 5: slept on, and so does Donovan Edwards, who two years ago,
Speaker 5: especially coming off the National Championship Game and the win
Speaker 5: over Washington. Like Donovan Edwards, we talked about a lot
Speaker 5: of these guys, they don't have the home run speed
Speaker 5: Edwards does. Edwards is a dude who's just gonna fly
Speaker 5: and you're not gonna be able to catch him.
Speaker 3: Was he was a straight line runner though?
Speaker 2: Yeah he is? Yeah right.
Speaker 5: So it's like the again, like they all have qualities
Speaker 5: where like if I could combine them, it'd be perfect.
Speaker 3: Sure.
Speaker 5: So there's knocks on Edwards two, But those are two
Speaker 5: guys that are being I think not discussed as heavily
Speaker 5: as others.
Speaker 6: I hate to rain on your party. Here's that you
Speaker 6: know who Donovan Edwards reminds me of both Scarborough or
Speaker 6: it was just like early in his careers, like this
Speaker 6: guy's gonna be the this guy's shoes, he's gonna be awesome.
Speaker 2: Not that big, He's not that big. Faster than his
Speaker 2: career trajectory.
Speaker 6: Okay, an injury stack up. He ends up in the
Speaker 6: seventh round.
Speaker 3: He was on the cover of the video game.
Speaker 2: But you're looking at day.
Speaker 6: Three for sure, I wouldn't touch him. I mean, and
Speaker 6: you talk about the you talk about the injuries that
Speaker 6: have stacked up with him. Looking at my injury history,
Speaker 6: I put on here, torn pateeller in twenty two, knee
Speaker 6: surgery in twenty three, achilles injury in twenty three, broken
Speaker 6: right thumb, he had a mystery chest and leg injury.
Speaker 6: This past season. He's mentioned he's mentioned how injuries have
Speaker 6: made him mentally hurt. I mean, I'm staying away from.
Speaker 2: The well, that's that's if you're mentally hurt. I don't
Speaker 2: know if we can fix that.
Speaker 3: Sound like a mentally bad grade, then hey, I didn't
Speaker 3: Day three. No, I'm just saying I'm not pointing at you.
Speaker 3: I'm just saying you sounds he brought him up.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean when you look at this draft class,
Speaker 4: and we've talked about it a number of times, the
Speaker 4: running back class. We're going to look back on this
Speaker 4: and say, wow, Yeah, there were twenty names, twenty five
Speaker 4: names that were drafted. A lot half of them are
Speaker 4: gonna end up just being dudes, like they're gonna.
Speaker 3: End up being great players.
Speaker 4: We're gonna look back and say, wow, twenty twenty five
Speaker 4: was an incredible draft class. But then they're gonna be
Speaker 4: fifteen names that are duds in the NFL. And that's
Speaker 4: what's terrifying about this is you don't want to necessarily
Speaker 4: grab one of the duds. You want to take a
Speaker 4: chance on a guy that you really think can be successful.
Speaker 4: It's the best running back class that I've scouted since
Speaker 4: taking over in twenty twenty. Brian, I don't know if
Speaker 4: you share that same show.
Speaker 3: It's pretty impressive across the board. All right, let's take
Speaker 3: our second break win.
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Speaker 4: moving forwards. We mentioned a lot on the defensive side,
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Speaker 4: can keep an eye on moving into the rest of
Speaker 4: free agency and how that could change things for the
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Speaker 4: All right back here the Draft show, Zach Walchuk Brian
Speaker 4: brought us Tommy Yarish, Nick Harris with Chris Beam in
Speaker 4: the back putting up all the great tape. We've gotten
Speaker 4: a lot of questions over the last couple of shows
Speaker 4: and we haven't hit tight end, and we were talking
Speaker 4: about offensive guys. Early, is tight end to need for.
Speaker 3: This Cowboys team moving forward?
Speaker 4: And what names would you be interested in at the
Speaker 4: top of the list when it comes to the tight
Speaker 4: end position.
Speaker 2: I don't think it's in need early. I think you've
Speaker 2: got other other.
Speaker 4: Issues and it's tough to look at it in those
Speaker 4: first three rounds, right.
Speaker 8: If you look, I think you look later and look
Speaker 8: for some value guys, and I think there are some.
Speaker 2: I think there are.
Speaker 8: I think you know, you look at some of the
Speaker 8: guys that competed at the Senior Bowl and at the
Speaker 8: Shrine Bowl. You know one guy that stood out from Syracuse,
Speaker 8: Ronda gads in the second. I thought he was pretty good.
Speaker 8: Jalen Conyers from Texas Tech is y blocker, ate blocking.
Speaker 8: I feel like he performed really well. So I think
Speaker 8: there's some guys that, you know, you look at the
Speaker 8: those day three guys that you can definitely get. I know,
Speaker 8: I know Brian's a big fan of Mason Taylor. Taylor
Speaker 8: out of l s U. He's been super productive all
Speaker 8: three years there. He didn't test well, but I think
Speaker 8: Gunner Helm from Texas will still pan out with you, Okay,
Speaker 8: Luke Lackey from Iowa.
Speaker 2: There's a lot of guys I.
Speaker 8: Feel like that you can you can look at take it,
Speaker 8: take a pe of me and to take all the
Speaker 8: names from you guys.
Speaker 3: Now, you did a great job taking all the names.
Speaker 2: Thank you.
Speaker 6: I think that job.
Speaker 3: Kerics Ferguson keep an eye on him from Oregon, Oregon.
Speaker 3: I agree.
Speaker 6: I agree, that's certainly one to throw out. I think
Speaker 6: when you when you talk about this team, look at
Speaker 6: this roster specifically, Jake Ferguson's a starter, and he's he's
Speaker 6: your comfortable starter.
Speaker 2: Right yeah, Okay, yea and.
Speaker 6: Luke schoon Maker. How how are we feeling about him?
Speaker 2: Scooney?
Speaker 3: How are you feeling about better? I think he I
Speaker 3: think he got better as the year went on.
Speaker 6: He got faced with a almost cussed a lot of adversity.
Speaker 6: That was really close, man, That's the close I've ever
Speaker 6: been in the studio. He got faced a lot of
Speaker 6: adversity last last season, and he answered Ferguson whenever Jake
Speaker 6: Ferguson went down with that concussion. Yeah, he answered with
Speaker 6: it well.
Speaker 4: And he had a better connection with Cooper Rush than
Speaker 4: he did with Dak Prescott too.
Speaker 6: And but Dak Prescott's going to be his quarterback, so exactly,
Speaker 6: how how do you feel about Schoomaker moving forward? And
Speaker 6: then the death of that room behind him and Ford?
Speaker 6: Do you you have spanned Ford who certainly has shown
Speaker 6: some knacks and at the point of attack John Steve
Speaker 6: and then John Stevens Junior. Can you rely on him
Speaker 6: to stay healthy and will he be the same player
Speaker 6: when he comes back?
Speaker 2: A huge question.
Speaker 6: I think I think it's worth a Day three pick
Speaker 6: if you're sitting there and you have needs addressed and
Speaker 6: you have a player that you really like there If
Speaker 6: a Jalen Conyers is there in the fifth, man, go
Speaker 6: swing at that. I don't think Conyor is going to
Speaker 6: be there in the fifth. But uh that a type
Speaker 6: of player like that, you wouldn't get a complaint for me.
Speaker 3: He lost me. You just lost me. You lost me
Speaker 3: because you won't let me fight for a safety. But
Speaker 3: you're going to fight for a tight end. I didn't.
Speaker 6: I wasn't say I was going to fight for a
Speaker 6: tight end.
Speaker 3: No, But you said you wouldn't get a complaint from
Speaker 3: me the fifth round.
Speaker 6: Yeah, you wouldn't get a complaint.
Speaker 3: So if I wanted to add a safety like you would,
Speaker 3: you'd be.
Speaker 2: Happy with mccooba.
Speaker 6: I'd be happy.
Speaker 2: You just don't think that they'll do that.
Speaker 6: No, No, correct, correct, Yeah, you can't take mccuba in
Speaker 6: the first three rounds, is what I'm saying. Like, because
Speaker 6: you don't, you don't have the you don't have the
Speaker 6: room to do it. You don't you have too many needs.
Speaker 3: Yea.
Speaker 6: And if we're talking about it from a tight end, respective,
Speaker 6: they don't have as much depth as a safety position has.
Speaker 6: A safety position, you feel like tired room?
Speaker 3: Do you feel like picking a tight end that would
Speaker 3: be like maybe you could pick another position.
Speaker 6: You could. It just depends on what's available to you. Like, Okay,
Speaker 6: then let's say what if they picked in the first
Speaker 6: three rounds. What have they picked in the first three rounds.
Speaker 4: Let's say, uh, corner, running back, running back, wide receiver.
Speaker 6: Cornerback, wide receiver. Okay, yeah, then you've take You've taken
Speaker 6: a lot offensive talent. You probably can't take the tight
Speaker 6: end in that in that situation, okay, defensive tackle, linebacker, corner,
Speaker 6: like okay, I mean you still need your running back. Yeah,
Speaker 6: but I mean this is a really talented player. If
Speaker 6: you feel like you have a really talented player sitting
Speaker 6: in that in the fifth round, why not.
Speaker 3: I don't I feel like I'm gonna have to take
Speaker 3: one of these tight ends earlier in the fifth round
Speaker 3: if I really want one of if I want a good.
Speaker 2: One, any one of those four.
Speaker 3: The tech kid, I mean, I haven't seen the tech kid.
Speaker 3: Is he a fourth round player? I think sound like
Speaker 3: he's a third round guy.
Speaker 6: I gotta think he's going to go early. You think
Speaker 6: early day three.
Speaker 5: See I The guy that i'd argue for is Aronde
Speaker 5: Gadson out of Syracuse and his son or his dad
Speaker 5: was a wide receiver as with the Miners dollars. Well,
Speaker 5: he's the son of a former NFL player who played
Speaker 5: for the Miami Dolphins. Ronde Gads And right, yeah, well,
Speaker 5: big fan of this dude. He's another Shrine Bowl guy
Speaker 5: and he dominated when we got to watch him with
Speaker 5: the Shrine Bowls. So you talk about a dude in
Speaker 5: terms of receiving ability, silky smooth route runner, tremendous bods,
Speaker 5: that's a guy Day three like. I think you're getting
Speaker 5: possibly a future starter in Aronde Gads And I think
Speaker 5: he's better than every guy that we've named here in
Speaker 5: this segment so far.
Speaker 6: They can't do anything like balking perspective in my opinion.
Speaker 5: Not a blocker, uh no, not Gunner Helm, but the
Speaker 5: Day three like Gunner Helms.
Speaker 2: I don't think it is a Day three player. Gunner
Speaker 2: Hilm's a third rounder.
Speaker 4: I was about to say, because we've named Taylor and
Speaker 4: but I'm talking about Conyers Luke l the Iowa kid better. Okay,
Speaker 4: when you talked about Terrence Ferguson, that is he in
Speaker 4: that same catgy.
Speaker 2: I think he's better than Ferguson too. Personally. I think
Speaker 2: if you watch dads, I think you like it more
Speaker 2: than Ferguson.
Speaker 6: Kay, I like Ferguson a little bit more, but I
Speaker 6: undertand w we're going.
Speaker 3: I love you guys. Had the Fanning kid from Bowling Green. See.
Speaker 6: I loved him early on, and I loved him during
Speaker 6: the season. I was like, my gosh, like every time
Speaker 6: Bowling TV I was watching him.
Speaker 4: Well, he was the most productive tight end in college
Speaker 4: football history.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 4: I mean he put up more yardage, more touchdowns, more receptions,
Speaker 4: and more games than any other dight end.
Speaker 3: Ever.
Speaker 6: I'm talking about fighting through guys all my seat on
Speaker 6: the tape right there. He can certainly do so. But
Speaker 6: as the process has gone on, he started to slip
Speaker 6: a little bit for me. Senior Bowl, he didn't do
Speaker 6: anything fantastic for me. He was getting locked down by
Speaker 6: some undersized dbs, and so I wonder if maybe level
Speaker 6: of competition, he's gonna have a little bit of an
Speaker 6: adjustment period to the NFL. But I think this is
Speaker 6: still a guy you would take a chance on if
Speaker 6: he's sitting there in the third round. I'm not saying
Speaker 6: for the Cowboys. I'm just saying in general, I think, yeah,
Speaker 6: ye are. He would be a guy you would take
Speaker 6: a chance on them.
Speaker 3: Okay, if if if you had Fannin in Helm in
Speaker 3: the third round, which one would you take?
Speaker 6: I have Fannin over Helm right now, I have Helm
Speaker 6: over Fannin.
Speaker 2: I'll be Helm over fan I had fan In too.
Speaker 3: But I was I was thinking, and and it's not
Speaker 3: about the Texas, about the kid when he worked out
Speaker 3: and all that, because I think, if I really think
Speaker 3: I could go to Austin, I could time him better.
Speaker 3: I know I can do a lot of things better
Speaker 3: with him if I want to. But I was just
Speaker 3: curious about Fanning. Is he really that guy? You know?
Speaker 3: I don't think so well.
Speaker 2: And I just watching him run like hurts me.
Speaker 5: It looks like he's painful, lumbering, like he has no
Speaker 5: bend at all. That it's not all in the hips
Speaker 5: with Fannin. But yet somehow the dude's open. He's a huge, big,
Speaker 5: reliable target. He could be really good in the red zone.
Speaker 5: He could give you like Antonio Gates, like red zone
Speaker 5: numbers possibly.
Speaker 3: See but he's not that big though.
Speaker 2: I mean, overall, six four thirty dudes pretty big.
Speaker 4: He measured out at six three two thirty eight at
Speaker 4: the mine.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so I mean that's still a solid size.
Speaker 4: Piece in size, but you're not talking about Film who's
Speaker 4: six five two fifty two, Joe Baylor, who's six five
Speaker 4: two fifty Like, I mean, there's other bigger tight ends
Speaker 4: that are available. Fannin is a little bit undersized.
Speaker 5: When you watched him play Helm and Fannin who had
Speaker 5: the bigger catch radius Fannin, Right, So when I'm talking
Speaker 5: about a guy who plays big, it's fair.
Speaker 2: It's Fannin.
Speaker 4: And I want to back up just the fan and
Speaker 4: slandered for a hot second, because I don't think when
Speaker 4: we're talking about COMBA or a Senior Bowl. Yeah, when
Speaker 4: we didn't see what we wanted to k out of
Speaker 4: it from the Senior Bowl. He had competitions through All
Speaker 4: in State and Texas A and m yeh, he had competition.
Speaker 4: It's both of those teams, and he put up at
Speaker 4: least one hundred and thirty five yards in a touchdown
Speaker 4: in both of those games. Like he still had plenty
Speaker 4: of it. Now they force fed him ahead.
Speaker 2: Hell they did.
Speaker 3: I mean they's.
Speaker 4: Target after target and it was but that was kind
Speaker 4: of the game plan that they had.
Speaker 3: At bowling Green.
Speaker 6: Got him too a bowl game.
Speaker 4: It did get him to a bowling bowling the bowl game. Yeah,
Speaker 4: so I think when you look at Fan and both
Speaker 4: of those guys are really close on my board, they're
Speaker 4: actually touching tags. I've got a third on Helm and
Speaker 4: I've got a fourth on fan in but both of.
Speaker 3: Where do you have a Royo? Then?
Speaker 6: From Miami?
Speaker 4: I have.
Speaker 3: I am a idem too, dude, I have tied him
Speaker 3: to I love. This is the deal because this dude
Speaker 3: loves the city of Miami. He's got he wears Miami heat.
Speaker 3: You know a tight end. This guy to this guy
Speaker 3: to our right lifts Texas. If you haven't known, it's.
Speaker 2: Better than Elijah Royo.
Speaker 5: Oh all right, well here here five years.
Speaker 2: Sure it'll be getting here.
Speaker 14: You go.
Speaker 2: I'll take a Royal better Helm.
Speaker 3: Thanks, No, you won't. That's Elijah would. I wouldn't. I would.
Speaker 3: I wouldn't. I would.
Speaker 5: You're crapping on Donovan Edwards for health and you're gonna say,
Speaker 5: Roys tight end too.
Speaker 2: If you stay healthy, give you it's not as bad
Speaker 2: as come on. He's not in the same.
Speaker 3: I don't have. All that you do is he was
Speaker 3: fighting for the Miami runner Damian Martine, which is funny
Speaker 3: because I was crapping on all the Miami guys last
Speaker 3: year except for Cam Kitchens.
Speaker 2: I was really hard on camp Ward.
Speaker 3: Watch him at quarterback. I'm telling you, is he qv one?
Speaker 5: Uh yeah, Stunner is Stunner heyn back one?
Speaker 6: Wide receiver.
Speaker 13: Brown.
Speaker 5: If you look back, you loved Matt Lee last year
Speaker 5: to the center he did.
Speaker 4: If you look back at which offense was the top
Speaker 4: in terms of efficiency this past year.
Speaker 3: Was it?
Speaker 6: No?
Speaker 2: It was.
Speaker 5: I just worried, like one year of production for a
Speaker 5: royal it scares me a little bit. But he's a
Speaker 5: first go independence kid, so I'm rooting for him.
Speaker 6: I forget about that. That is yeah, he would be a
Speaker 6: thirty day visit or a Dallas excuse me for for
Speaker 6: this for this team.
Speaker 3: I have him as tight end too as well. I
Speaker 3: think he's fantastic. I'm going with it.
Speaker 2: That tight end board on that side of the table.
Speaker 3: Get rid of more. Who's the best player? Got left?
Speaker 11: Oh?
Speaker 3: I would take this okay, like the fourth round. Like
Speaker 3: he names all four people and they're all from Miami.
Speaker 2: It's okay. I'm totally wrong about everything I say to you,
Speaker 2: so don't worry.
Speaker 3: I love it. A good show, gentlemen, well done.
Speaker 4: We'll be back on Thursday, continuing under forty four days.
Speaker 3: From this NFL Draft.
Speaker 4: As we continue forward, we're gonna debate some more about
Speaker 4: some tight ends in the future as well. Can't wait
Speaker 4: all right for Zach Walchuck Brian brought us Tommy Yarris,
Speaker 4: Nick Carris, Chris Beam in the back of Kyle Yeoman
Speaker 4: saying so long from the draft show.
Speaker 3: We'll see you on Thursday.
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