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Speaker 2: And now your host, Zach Wolchuck.

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Speaker 3: That is Zach Walchuck. He's over there.

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Speaker 4: He's doing a great job. He's on the show today,

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Speaker 4: today we are forty four days away from the NFL

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Speaker 3: Get the trim on the beard.

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Speaker 5: You're looking great, did I was like, gosh, I gotta

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Speaker 2: You're growing that beard nicely as well.

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Speaker 4: Grew it out before I did, so I did. I did,

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Speaker 4: had for forty years now, not forty.

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Speaker 3: He's locked in at the time, it's like thirty seconds,

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Speaker 2: He just gets trust here. By the day you.

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Speaker 3: Said, we've got forty days, what do you talk about it?

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Speaker 3: Forty four forty four days? Forty four days?

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Speaker 2: And of course with Thomas amount of days.

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Speaker 4: Exactly with a little bit of free agency talk here

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Speaker 4: of the last couple of days as well. I mean,

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Speaker 4: this is starting to ramp up quickly. And of course

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Speaker 4: everybody's looking at these free agents. They're looking at the

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Speaker 4: signings and the non signings and the possible trade options.

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Speaker 4: But we're all kind of looking at it at how

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Speaker 4: the hell is this going to affect the NFL Draft

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Speaker 4: whenever it comes around in April.

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Speaker 3: So brought us?

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Speaker 4: I mean, what type of what is this time like

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Speaker 4: from a scouting standpoint, when you're looking across the board

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Speaker 4: and you're saying, Okay, we don't have this guy anymore, right,

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Speaker 4: but we have this guy?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you know you kind of knew going into the

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Speaker 3: draft who you were probably going to have and who

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Speaker 3: you weren't going to have because you had the ideas of, like, okay,

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Speaker 3: you have these meetings before actually free agents starts, and

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Speaker 3: so you're thinking, like, Okay, this is how our team

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Speaker 3: is going to be. I think right now what you're

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Speaker 3: coaching staff, the new coaching staff. You know, if you

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Speaker 3: look at some of the uh, I know that we're

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Speaker 3: gonna I don't know, we allowed to talk about what

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Speaker 3: happened with the Jets today with that signing with Okay, Okay,

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Speaker 3: I didn't got Yeah, you know, there's a there's some

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Speaker 3: really probably from Indianapolis, what it was going to take

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Speaker 3: to to keep Jordan Lewis, to keep Golst and things

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Speaker 3: like that. So you kind of know going into okay,

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Speaker 3: we're probably not going to have those positions. Do we

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Speaker 3: need to address these other positions. I find it interesting

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Speaker 3: with the depth of the defensive tackle draft that the

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Speaker 3: signing Osa was important to him, and you know, and

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Speaker 3: but also though with the Solomon Thomas one, you know again,

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Speaker 3: are they looking for depth at the position? It is

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Speaker 3: to me, is you know, you're you're taking money and

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Speaker 3: you're putting it towards uh, you know, you're putting it

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Speaker 3: and maybe they don't want to sit there and double dip,

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Speaker 3: like we've talked about in some positions, I would have

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Speaker 6: How about instead of double dipping at running back and

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Speaker 3: I would, I would absolutely, Yeah, I think the cornerback

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Speaker 3: I you know that to me, there's there's I know,

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Speaker 4: It is really interesting that you do bring up the

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Speaker 4: double dip conversation, because if we were to have this

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Speaker 4: is most likely to see a double dip on, we

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Speaker 4: probably would have all said defensive tackle, running back, and

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Speaker 4: right off the jump, Does that deter you from making

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Speaker 3: I certainly don't think so.

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Speaker 4: I think they can make a premium pick at all

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Speaker 4: three of those positions first, second, and third round. And

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Speaker 4: I still think i'd be okay even with the signing

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm with you on that. I don't think any

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Speaker 5: Think they're be kind of telling us that at the combine,

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Speaker 5: And that's something that we kicked around as well. They

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Speaker 5: Maybe Jones and him are competing for that right guard spot.

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Speaker 5: So I don't know that. Hey, maybe they do love

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Speaker 5: a Tyler Booker out of Alabama. Maybe he is in play,

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Speaker 5: but that's probably not an area that I envisioned they'd

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Speaker 5: I still think defensive tackle could be in play personally.

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Speaker 5: I mean, Salomon Thomas is a rotational depths right, He's

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Speaker 5: I still think very much in play. It was already

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Speaker 5: done with Osi, let's pivot, let's try and get Jordan Lewis.

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Speaker 5: Congratulations to him on the big contract that he got.

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Speaker 5: But I'm sure fans now are like, oh my gosh

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Speaker 2: I think everything is still in play.

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Speaker 3: I can even signing Lewis, you would have probably gone.

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Speaker 2: Corner absolutely right. Is how long would that have deally

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Speaker 2: Just a year or two?

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Speaker 5: And you've got health issues with a lot I mean,

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Speaker 4: Whole cornerback groom went down at some.

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Speaker 5: Point, and then linebacker, right, I mean, I know that

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Speaker 5: of them look like they're going to be good players,

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Speaker 5: overshown for this year. Dimone Clark's a guy. Is he

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Speaker 5: I don't know for sure? Can you rely on him?

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Speaker 5: So linebacker's definitely in play. I mean, I don't think

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Speaker 5: there's a single position that you're looking at outside of

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Speaker 5: maybe safety that they're like, we've got some quality depth here.

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Speaker 2: No, I would agree with that.

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Speaker 8: I think when you look at the defensive line with

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Speaker 8: go to the New York Times, that was reported last night.

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Speaker 8: I think that he's kind of the new Chauncey Golson

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Speaker 8: just in terms of he can play defensive tackling and

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Speaker 8: and that's what kind of what he's.

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Speaker 2: Been used over the course of his career.

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Speaker 8: You know, he Copel High school graduate, so he's coming

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Speaker 8: back to dall He's born in Chicago, but he's coming

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Speaker 2: So that's an interesting time of this too.

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Speaker 5: With Connor Williams and Hell at the same time, I

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Speaker 2: That's pretty good. Yeah.

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Speaker 8: And then two, when you look at his time with

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Speaker 8: Aaron White, Connon he had the most sacks of his

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Speaker 8: He had nine career sacks over the course of three years.

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Speaker 8: So you know, this is the these three signings in

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Speaker 8: Solomon Tom or excuse me, term agreements in Solomon Thomas,

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Speaker 8: Robert Jones, and Javonte Williams. I completely agree with you

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Speaker 8: guys that it's not you know, these guys aren't going

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Speaker 8: Jerry Jones told us the other day that he's not

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Speaker 8: looking to fill void's in free agency. They're looking to

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Speaker 8: so many different things in terms of Okay, now that

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Speaker 8: you've got Javonte Williams in the boat, do you feel

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Speaker 8: like you can get a running back later on in

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Speaker 8: still willing to pick an Ashton genty if he's there

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Speaker 8: for you is wide receiver, you know, more of an

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Speaker 8: Eater's wide receiver. Remove that they kind of fill or

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Speaker 8: address here in the next coming days. I think one

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Speaker 8: should at twelve is Mikel Williams out of Georgia. I

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Speaker 8: feel like that's very much in play the defensive end

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Speaker 8: I think that's one guy that they like a lot.

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Speaker 3: I think you could throw Williams into that mix.

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Speaker 4: You could throw maybe some of those corners that we've

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Speaker 4: mentioned before into that mix as well. Do you feel

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Speaker 4: like edge rusher because they haven't addressed that either. You

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Speaker 4: feel like ed rusher is still a position they could

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Speaker 4: possibly hit that high in the draft and feel comfortable

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Speaker 4: leaving those other positions to the side.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, especially if DeMarcus Lawrence is not back into the fold.

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Speaker 6: See mike Keil Williams being firing up the highlights here.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 6: I mean he's good in the run game. He's a big,

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Speaker 6: physical guy. He could seal the edge in the run game,

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Speaker 6: and he could also get after the pass or two.

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Speaker 6: I feel like it would be a healthy transition from

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Speaker 6: you know, the bigger set run defense dominant DeMarcus Lawrence.

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Speaker 6: If you're trying to go young at that position, it's

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Speaker 6: tough to find a better guy than MIKEL Williams. That

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Speaker 3: If you told me that Simmons from Ohio State, the

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Speaker 6: Eyes personally on Simmons, but I understand the affinity there.

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Speaker 3: And spending your guy you're high on then would you

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Speaker 6: Campbell, Banks? Those those are the first round guys. Aside

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Speaker 3: Jonk Okay, but you would take a tackle then over

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Speaker 6: Well, factoring in that I have both of them at guard,

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Speaker 3: Do you feel strongly enough about Campbell and Banks as guards?

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Speaker 3: Take over Williams.

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Speaker 6: If Campbell's on the board, I'm taking Campbell, I have.

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Speaker 6: The more I watch from Campbell, the more I like,

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Speaker 4: See I'm the opposite. I would take Banks over Williams.

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Speaker 4: But I would take Williams over Campbell. In that regards Simmons.

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Speaker 5: Over both camp I think Simmons is the best offensive

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Speaker 2: Personally, sure, I would go Banks over Williams. We know

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Speaker 3: We can't hate on him. Texas was a really good team.

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Speaker 4: No, I think John barn is a conversation at twelve

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Speaker 4: Maybe twelve would be too high for a Jodda barn that.

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Speaker 4: I think the tape's good enough.

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Speaker 5: I'd take him personally, I Will Johnson, I've got some

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Speaker 2: I think Will Johnson he's not going to run.

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Speaker 3: He's not going to run till April fourteenth, and.

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Speaker 5: In the twenty twenty three tape is better than twenty

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Speaker 3: There's there's a hamstring injury there now, and that's the problem,

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Speaker 3: You know, maybe I could just kind of, you know,

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Speaker 3: next thing, you know, we're drafted. I wouldn't draft that

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Speaker 3: And you can and and people can and can talk

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Speaker 3: He is so much of a better player than Morrison

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Speaker 3: in my book. You know, but but but organizations are

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Speaker 3: not going to like Baron because he does not fit

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Speaker 2: Which I hate.

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Speaker 5: I mean, I know that there's probably it could be

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Speaker 5: I'm sure, and that like they there's stats and there's

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Speaker 5: Just me and my young naive drafting way, I'm like,

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Speaker 5: I've seen them a Sante Samuel Junior get knocked, he

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Speaker 5: sign me up for johd Ay Barron. He feels a

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Speaker 5: I think John A. Barron is the guy that's not

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Speaker 3: Now.

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Speaker 5: I'd argue for a Jacob Parrish at a case state

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Speaker 5: I'm cool with that.

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Speaker 2: But I'd also just going back to ends.

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Speaker 5: I mean, I'd stayed on the table for Mike Green

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Speaker 5: I'd be advocating for him at twelve if he's there.

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Speaker 5: But I think the future could be a lot brighter

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Speaker 5: I'd like the boom prospect there in Green, who I

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Speaker 3: Nick have a question for you, yep. If you have say,

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Speaker 6: Talking about mikel Yeah, back in first round?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, soe see player fourteen for you.

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Speaker 6: Yes, yeah, and Banks fifteen and Banks is fair.

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Speaker 4: I've got him at throw CU so it's right around

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Speaker 3: So do you have McMillan, Burden or Abuca ahead of him? McMillan, okay,

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Speaker 3: you wouldn't take a wide receiver unless it's McMillan, correct, okay,

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Speaker 3: And you would take Campbell over him, right, correct? All right,

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Speaker 3: and you would not take any of these corners.

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Speaker 6: I feel like it's the game of go fish.

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Speaker 3: No, no, no, I mean, I'm just I'm just trying

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Speaker 3: to Michael would yes, yes, yes, okay, so but you

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Speaker 6: Uh not gent if he's there, Yeah, absolutely, I would

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 6: Uh then then yeah, that would probably be that'd probably

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Speaker 5: I was just wondering to see how committed you were

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Speaker 2: Yeah, me too. H but I think i'd go be gone,

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Speaker 3: Where are they going to play him? I've where's where's

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Speaker 4: That's that's the thing. That's the whole debate that we've

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Speaker 5: No, No, there's definitely gonna be teams that see him

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Speaker 4: edge rusher. And that's just part of it. Just two

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Speaker 3: I talked to six that thinks he's a linebacker, okay,

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Speaker 4: Anybody that you would trade up to go get because

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Speaker 3: What the board looks like.

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Speaker 4: But let's say you do go up and get someone,

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Speaker 5: There's I mean Travis Hunter i'd move up for Okay, McMillan,

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Speaker 5: Mason Dram if he started falling. Okay, that's tackle Michigan.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think I would agree with those.

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Speaker 8: I think my question would be, if you do trade up,

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Speaker 2: Like, does it make it?

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Speaker 8: Well, it's going to be premium, right, But I don't

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Speaker 8: one where I'd be willing to give up premium draft

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Speaker 4: Are you playing them at both wide receiver and corner?

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Speaker 3: You depending on let me I say this real quick,

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Speaker 3: genty to the cow Boys, yeah since day one, and

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Speaker 3: you worry about that sitting in that room. Can we

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Speaker 3: running back draft, I get it. But if you really

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Speaker 3: everybody tell me that of your of your top fifteen guys,

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Speaker 6: Yeah, Yeah, that's probably there.

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Speaker 3: You go, that's the guy you trade up for right

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Speaker 4: He's got the best best home run up.

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Speaker 3: can deal with right there. That's that's the guy. Everybody else,

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Speaker 3: Could you say it about Hunter? Hunter would be my

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Speaker 2: I'd say genty to me, I.

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Speaker 6: Guess concerns for twenty three right yeah? And obviously having

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Speaker 2: Is he is that possible? Who?

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Speaker 5: And where do you want to play? And where do

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Speaker 5: you prefer? You want to spend time at receiver, at corner?

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Speaker 6: Does he get beat up? You would have injury or

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Speaker 6: at least mileage concerns with a guy like that.

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Speaker 4: I'm looking at what it would even take to for

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Speaker 4: somebody to jump in front. And I'm going back to

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Speaker 4: twenty two Saints.

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Speaker 3: You remember, look at the Saints at nine bailing out

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Speaker 3: of there. That's what you have to worry if Chicago's

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Speaker 3: a team. If Chicago's a team that you're legitimately worried

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Speaker 3: about taking genty And I'm just saying this, I'm just

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Speaker 3: you know, I don't think Dallas wild trade up for him.

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Speaker 3: But if you're really gonna worry about a team, yeah,

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Speaker 3: you gotta worry about the Bears. Yeah, so you have

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Speaker 3: to get to nine. Well, I've got to get to nine.

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Speaker 4: They want to get to eleven to get in front

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Speaker 4: of you. If they want a gent too.

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Speaker 5: Vegas at six could be also a spot that I

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Speaker 5: could see them taking an Ashton gent Y.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, they've got a.

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Speaker 5: Quarterback now, Pete Carroll comes from Seattle where he wants

458
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Speaker 5: to run the football. They're trying to rebuild things over there.

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Speaker 5: What better way than you get the best back in

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Speaker 5: the class, maybe the best black back that we've seen

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Speaker 5: since what Barkley Beijon.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, so really.

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Speaker 4: That's the number that if he makes it past six,

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Speaker 4: you're looking at Jets at seven, Carolina at eight, New

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Speaker 4: Orleans at nine.

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Speaker 3: That's gonna be where you're starting if you're going to

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Speaker 3: trade up. That's the only thing I think you I

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Speaker 3: think that I think the Bears make a lot of

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Speaker 3: sense here. I think the Bears, and I think I

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Speaker 3: think teams around the league. Now, I think Dallas and

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Speaker 3: the Bears are the two teams if you were interested

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Speaker 3: in Ashton Genty, those you have to get ahead of

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Speaker 3: those two teams, is what I would say.

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Speaker 8: I think the Raiders might be more of a threat

475
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Speaker 8: than Ghago, just because I don't. I wonder if Pete

476
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Speaker 8: Carroll looks at this like it says Marshawn Lynch. Yeah,

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Speaker 8: And if that's the case, like that, well look at

478
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Speaker 8: how good Marshawn Lynch Lynch was in Seattle, and so

479
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Speaker 8: there you go.

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Speaker 2: But yeah, when you do, when you do, and the ball.

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Speaker 3: That one why you got to bring up old stuff.

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Speaker 2: And then there're one on the like goal line super Bowl. Anyways.

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Speaker 8: If I was the Raiders, though, I feel like they

484
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Speaker 8: still need a bona fide wide receiver one. Jakobe Myers

485
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Speaker 8: was good for them last year, don't get me wrong,

486
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Speaker 8: but I still feel like they need that alpha dog

487
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Speaker 8: at receiver.

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Speaker 2: So I would go McMillan from Arizona Ran.

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Speaker 5: As much as I love Ashton Genty, I can't justify

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Speaker 5: trading him to you get him in this draft class.

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Speaker 3: No, I don't think. I was just saying if you

492
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Speaker 3: if if that's where and I'm I'm not saying they will,

493
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Speaker 3: but that we talk about players. The question he asked was,

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Speaker 3: would you who would you trade up for? Sure? You

495
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Speaker 3: know and I you know you would consider if you

496
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Speaker 3: saw what if what if you saw Carter sliding? Would

497
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Speaker 3: you consider that because of the foot? I mean, is

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Speaker 3: that does that not make him a clean prospect? And

499
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Speaker 3: that maybe the potential is that foot? Is that kind

500
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Speaker 3: of that it's starting out to be kind of some

501
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Speaker 3: stress fracture stuff going on there.

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Speaker 6: I just think you have too many needs to gamble

503
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Speaker 6: away any capital right now, like you're trying to gain

504
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Speaker 6: capital in this draft. That's that's where it's tough for me.

505
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Speaker 6: But it'd be a discussion if he falls past seven,

506
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Speaker 6: that's a discussion you have. It's like, hey, this is

507
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Speaker 6: a quality guy. He has experienced with Micah Parsons. We

508
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Speaker 6: know he would have a mentor that he would listen

509
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Speaker 6: to in this locker room. However we feel about that mentor.

510
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Speaker 6: But is this worth you know, gambling a second round pick.

511
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Speaker 3: On so you would trade up for you would consider

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Speaker 3: trade it?

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Speaker 6: No, I'm just saying I'm sure for Carter. No, I'm

514
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Speaker 6: just saying it would be a conversation. I don't think

515
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Speaker 6: I would trade up for anybody.

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Speaker 4: I don't think any of us are looking at this

517
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Speaker 4: in this draft specifically and saying let's trade up. But

518
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Speaker 4: if there were names that were available, I think it's

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Speaker 4: that short list of guys gent Millon, Carter, possibly, like

520
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Speaker 4: you said, Travis Hunter, just guys like that across the board.

521
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Speaker 4: But even then that's a stretch, and that's if you

522
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Speaker 4: really don't like what you're gonna get at twelve. And

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Speaker 4: I think by this point we've kind of already established

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Speaker 4: that someone's gonna be there that's worth taking at twelve

525
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Speaker 4: without giving up draft capital in order to get up

526
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Speaker 4: and go get it. I mean, we were talking going

527
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Speaker 4: back to twenty twenty one when the Bears traded from

528
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Speaker 4: twenty up to eleven to get to justin Fields. They

529
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Speaker 4: gave up a fourth round that year, they flipped picks

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Speaker 4: in the first round, and Chicago gave up their first

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Speaker 4: round and a third.

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Speaker 3: Round the year after that to jump up.

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Speaker 4: So like, it's gonna be premium, and that's going from

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Speaker 4: twenty to eleven. Imagine what it would be going from

535
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Speaker 4: twelve to seven or six or eight or nine, you know,

536
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Speaker 4: just to kind of get into that territory in order

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Speaker 4: to trade up for all right, we got to take

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Speaker 2: That's good.

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Speaker 3: Kind of sounds weird, uh, all right?

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Speaker 4: Trey asked, how do you guys feel about the Day

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Speaker 4: three or Day two?

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Speaker 3: Day three safeties?

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Speaker 4: He wanted to know about Jonas Sankers anybody watched Anker

604
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Speaker 4: from Virginia? Absolutely, I have what do you think about him?

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Speaker 4: Hometown product? He says he's from Charlottesville, so he wants to.

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Speaker 3: Know about him.

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Speaker 4: But any other the other of those other safeties later

608
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Speaker 4: in the draft that you'd be interested in.

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Speaker 3: But Sankard did he want to know about y? Yeah?

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Speaker 3: Hold on one second here, only get out of my

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Speaker 3: notes here with with with Sanker, Waima looking at corners.

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Speaker 3: His kid's a safety, Brian Uh Sanker, Yeah, he Uh,

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Speaker 3: he's a he's a two time All acc performer, and

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Speaker 3: he's got some interesting traits. I feel like you could

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Speaker 3: play him up or you could play him back, and

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Speaker 3: you're gonna have a pretty nice player with this guy.

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Speaker 3: He's got size, he's got a nose for the ball.

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Speaker 3: He's an effort player. He'll come out of nowhere to

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Speaker 3: make plays. He tends to the ball, tends to bounce

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Speaker 3: his direction. I think he can come down hill really quickly.

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Speaker 7: Uh.

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Speaker 3: He triggers quickly. I really like that about his game.

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Speaker 3: He'll see him wrap up in space. You can be

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Speaker 3: physical doing it. He did have his share of some

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Speaker 3: misses though, too. Uh. But he's the type of guy

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Speaker 3: that could stop the ball carrier in his tracks, power, strength,

627
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Speaker 3: instincts as a man, cover guy. Uh, breaking on the football, disruptive.

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Speaker 3: Uh that I you know, I just kind of have

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Speaker 3: a You see a guy that kind of he didn't

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Speaker 3: ever come off the field. You mean he's a gunner,

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Speaker 3: he's a flyer, he's a kickoff cover man, he's a

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Speaker 3: field goal rusher, he's got a he's a he's got

633
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Speaker 3: a knack for coming off the edge and blocking kicks.

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Speaker 3: I mean, he's gonna give you a lot of plays

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Speaker 3: if you take him to the game. Six foot, two

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Speaker 3: hundred and six pounds out of Virginia. So I like

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Speaker 3: the toughness of the kid. Uh. And then, like I say, if,

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Speaker 3: as Bill Parcells would say, when I take you to

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Speaker 3: the game, how many players are gonna give me? This

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Speaker 3: kid's gonna give you a lot of plays. The way

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Speaker 3: he with, the way he goes about his job. Where

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Speaker 3: do you have him? I'm the fourth round? Nice?

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Speaker 4: Okay, what do you think about some of those other

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Speaker 4: Day three guys? That's safety zactly?

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Speaker 7: Well?

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Speaker 5: How about okay, this is a guy that measurable wise.

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Speaker 5: I don't think that the people. I mean I think

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Speaker 5: he got snubbed from the combine. But Dan Jackson from Georgia, Like,

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Speaker 5: if you watch Georgia tape, Dan Jackson's the guy that

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Speaker 5: all of a sudden, he's kind of he's flashing at

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Speaker 5: you a little bit.

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Speaker 3: He gets snubb from the combine. He's at the Senior

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Speaker 3: Bowl but did not go to the combine.

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Speaker 2: Slow a little bit.

655
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Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, but they laugh like that it was it

656
00:27:55,160 --> 00:27:55,840
Speaker 6: was an inside joke.

657
00:27:55,880 --> 00:27:58,320
Speaker 2: But uh it's uh, well I know where Yeah, I'm not.

658
00:27:58,359 --> 00:27:59,719
Speaker 2: I get it. I get it.

659
00:28:00,280 --> 00:28:00,600
Speaker 3: I'm not the.

660
00:28:00,600 --> 00:28:02,440
Speaker 6: Biggest day of Jackson, I understand.

661
00:28:02,480 --> 00:28:04,560
Speaker 2: I think he could be a good special team guy

662
00:28:04,600 --> 00:28:05,119
Speaker 2: for sure.

663
00:28:05,480 --> 00:28:09,000
Speaker 6: Absolutely this team. If you're asking about this team seventh

664
00:28:09,080 --> 00:28:11,560
Speaker 6: round and Shiloh Sanders is still on the board, you

665
00:28:11,560 --> 00:28:12,679
Speaker 6: think that they pull the trigger.

666
00:28:13,520 --> 00:28:14,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that that.

667
00:28:14,680 --> 00:28:18,600
Speaker 6: I think it happens a one one day two slash

668
00:28:18,680 --> 00:28:20,760
Speaker 6: day three. I kind of have him on that fringe.

669
00:28:21,640 --> 00:28:23,480
Speaker 6: Guy that I heard a lot about in Indianapolis, and

670
00:28:23,520 --> 00:28:26,480
Speaker 6: I really like seeing up close in person. Jalen Reid

671
00:28:26,520 --> 00:28:28,640
Speaker 6: out of Penn State. Yeah, this is a guy who's

672
00:28:28,640 --> 00:28:32,840
Speaker 6: gaining a lot of love from training circles in the

673
00:28:32,840 --> 00:28:36,200
Speaker 6: pre NFL draft process. He's training out in Exos in Arizona,

674
00:28:36,760 --> 00:28:39,320
Speaker 6: doing a really strong job out there against some really

675
00:28:39,560 --> 00:28:45,240
Speaker 6: talented guys. But plays downhill, He's he's feisty, he's only uh,

676
00:28:45,480 --> 00:28:47,800
Speaker 6: he's only He's got average size from that safety spot.

677
00:28:47,800 --> 00:28:49,720
Speaker 6: But I think you can play him in multiple spots.

678
00:28:49,880 --> 00:28:51,920
Speaker 6: You see him lining up at safety, you see him

679
00:28:51,960 --> 00:28:53,960
Speaker 6: lining up at nickel, even outside corner at times. But

680
00:28:54,040 --> 00:28:56,360
Speaker 6: I think he can really take on that deep safety

681
00:28:56,440 --> 00:28:58,560
Speaker 6: role if a team were to ask him to. But

682
00:28:58,600 --> 00:29:00,640
Speaker 6: he's a thumper man. You get him hill and he'll

683
00:29:00,680 --> 00:29:01,800
Speaker 6: lay a hat on you think.

684
00:29:01,800 --> 00:29:04,000
Speaker 3: But he looked at Latham Ransom from Ohio State.

685
00:29:04,160 --> 00:29:05,440
Speaker 6: If Ransom is a guy I have a lot of

686
00:29:05,520 --> 00:29:08,640
Speaker 6: experience with going back from to recruiting days, and I

687
00:29:09,280 --> 00:29:12,280
Speaker 6: feel like every year he's played, he's regressed. That's the

688
00:29:12,320 --> 00:29:14,120
Speaker 6: only thing that I worry about. But I still think

689
00:29:14,160 --> 00:29:16,680
Speaker 6: he's a really fine player. I just wonder if if

690
00:29:16,720 --> 00:29:19,120
Speaker 6: maybe there's some there's an extra layer of development that

691
00:29:19,200 --> 00:29:20,520
Speaker 6: he needs to take at the NFL level.

692
00:29:20,960 --> 00:29:22,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think to me, he's stale with a lot

693
00:29:22,600 --> 00:29:25,200
Speaker 3: of injuries in his career, but maybe it's a true

694
00:29:25,200 --> 00:29:27,120
Speaker 3: free safety. He might be a guy you wanted to

695
00:29:27,120 --> 00:29:28,840
Speaker 3: take a look at there in that fourth round.

696
00:29:28,840 --> 00:29:29,560
Speaker 2: And then day three.

697
00:29:29,600 --> 00:29:31,960
Speaker 5: I think Brian We've talked about him before with Billy

698
00:29:31,960 --> 00:29:34,360
Speaker 5: Bowman Junior, Dan Ryan Raider, and I might be shouting

699
00:29:34,400 --> 00:29:35,959
Speaker 5: him out because I've got a soft spot for him,

700
00:29:36,040 --> 00:29:37,600
Speaker 5: got to cover him in high school. But I mean

701
00:29:37,600 --> 00:29:40,680
Speaker 5: that's a dude that's got He's a former corner converted

702
00:29:40,760 --> 00:29:43,000
Speaker 5: over to safety. I think Billy Bowman Junior, if you

703
00:29:43,080 --> 00:29:44,360
Speaker 5: just want to take a flyer on a dude who

704
00:29:44,320 --> 00:29:46,720
Speaker 5: could be a splash type of player for you, not

705
00:29:47,000 --> 00:29:49,560
Speaker 5: not shy away from going down hill and in some people.

706
00:29:49,280 --> 00:29:53,320
Speaker 6: He's stout, like yeah, very he he's he's a he's

707
00:29:53,320 --> 00:29:53,920
Speaker 6: got a load.

708
00:29:54,120 --> 00:29:57,720
Speaker 2: Also senior bowl guy, Yeah he is. He's got a load. Yeah,

709
00:29:58,280 --> 00:29:59,360
Speaker 2: he'll drop that ass on You.

710
00:30:00,120 --> 00:30:03,680
Speaker 3: Think the thing about him is his his his lack

711
00:30:03,720 --> 00:30:06,200
Speaker 3: of height, very short. I think that's I think that's

712
00:30:06,200 --> 00:30:07,800
Speaker 3: something that's going to kind of make people.

713
00:30:08,160 --> 00:30:09,600
Speaker 5: Yeah, I think that's going to push him down the by.

714
00:30:09,600 --> 00:30:11,160
Speaker 5: I think that's why he's definitely three dude.

715
00:30:11,360 --> 00:30:14,280
Speaker 8: Yeah, I'll give you one more thumper. Jalen Catalan from

716
00:30:14,360 --> 00:30:16,400
Speaker 8: U N l V. I know the injury history with

717
00:30:16,480 --> 00:30:17,960
Speaker 8: him is is something that jal.

718
00:30:18,440 --> 00:30:21,640
Speaker 3: Is this the was this the guy from Arkansas, Texas

719
00:30:21,760 --> 00:30:26,120
Speaker 3: Arkansas Texas un L He didn't he didn't play very

720
00:30:26,120 --> 00:30:26,840
Speaker 3: well at Texas.

721
00:30:26,880 --> 00:30:27,440
Speaker 2: I think injury.

722
00:30:27,480 --> 00:30:29,360
Speaker 8: Injury was a very very big part of that, and

723
00:30:29,600 --> 00:30:31,960
Speaker 8: kind of had Arkansas too. He was an All SEC player,

724
00:30:32,000 --> 00:30:34,040
Speaker 8: I think his his freshman year and then he just

725
00:30:34,160 --> 00:30:37,000
Speaker 8: kind of went went downhill a little bit with the injuries.

726
00:30:37,000 --> 00:30:40,960
Speaker 8: But un l V last year ninety six tackles five picks.

727
00:30:41,120 --> 00:30:41,920
Speaker 2: When he's healthy.

728
00:30:42,040 --> 00:30:44,440
Speaker 3: He's actually going back to school. He's going to always

729
00:30:44,400 --> 00:30:44,760
Speaker 3: going back.

730
00:30:44,800 --> 00:30:45,800
Speaker 2: He's at Missouri.

731
00:30:45,920 --> 00:30:49,440
Speaker 6: Now, how is he going back to? What way he

732
00:30:49,560 --> 00:30:50,480
Speaker 6: is he is.

733
00:30:50,400 --> 00:30:51,320
Speaker 3: At Missouri now?

734
00:30:51,640 --> 00:30:53,440
Speaker 2: The COVID year, you know, Yeah.

735
00:30:53,560 --> 00:30:57,200
Speaker 4: He had any remember being very sorry that is I'm

736
00:30:57,320 --> 00:31:00,920
Speaker 4: sitting in this very studio before it was redone talking

737
00:31:01,000 --> 00:31:06,280
Speaker 4: about I'm already jailing catalog during his time in Mansfield

738
00:31:06,320 --> 00:31:08,120
Speaker 4: Legacy and Chris Bean was punching it in the.

739
00:31:08,040 --> 00:31:10,040
Speaker 3: Back when we were doing high school sports.

740
00:31:10,080 --> 00:31:11,320
Speaker 5: He was one of the best high school players I

741
00:31:11,320 --> 00:31:13,000
Speaker 5: think we've seen. I mean, this guy was projected to

742
00:31:13,000 --> 00:31:14,240
Speaker 5: be a first rounder a couple of years.

743
00:31:14,280 --> 00:31:15,840
Speaker 4: Again, well now he's going to be a first rounder

744
00:31:15,920 --> 00:31:17,200
Speaker 4: after a great after.

745
00:31:19,720 --> 00:31:22,440
Speaker 2: Hey, we're year early I like, you're just getting the

746
00:31:22,440 --> 00:31:23,000
Speaker 2: ahead of the game.

747
00:31:24,200 --> 00:31:26,800
Speaker 6: I'll throw in a DFW guy who is who is

748
00:31:26,800 --> 00:31:29,480
Speaker 6: in this class? R J Mickens out of Clemson, sixty

749
00:31:29,560 --> 00:31:32,400
Speaker 6: career games, over two thousand career snaps. If you're talking

750
00:31:32,400 --> 00:31:34,840
Speaker 6: about experience, you want a guy who can step in

751
00:31:34,960 --> 00:31:36,440
Speaker 6: and kind of give you that high floor from an

752
00:31:36,440 --> 00:31:37,360
Speaker 6: experience perspective.

753
00:31:37,400 --> 00:31:37,560
Speaker 3: R J.

754
00:31:37,640 --> 00:31:39,800
Speaker 6: Mickens is that guy. I don't think he'll bring a

755
00:31:39,880 --> 00:31:43,040
Speaker 6: starter caliber a play to you, but if you're looking

756
00:31:43,040 --> 00:31:45,000
Speaker 6: for a safety in the sixth or seventh round, I

757
00:31:45,000 --> 00:31:46,160
Speaker 6: think that's potentially your guy.

758
00:31:46,360 --> 00:31:46,479
Speaker 4: Uh.

759
00:31:46,520 --> 00:31:49,280
Speaker 6: And then Andrew mccooba out of Texas is slowly starting

760
00:31:49,280 --> 00:31:50,960
Speaker 6: to rise in draft circles. I mean, this is a

761
00:31:51,000 --> 00:31:52,480
Speaker 6: guy who's probably gonna end up slowly.

762
00:31:52,760 --> 00:31:55,760
Speaker 2: Why why, yeah, what is taking everybody so long?

763
00:31:55,800 --> 00:31:58,360
Speaker 6: On my I'm wondering the same thing. Because he's got

764
00:31:58,360 --> 00:32:01,320
Speaker 6: the length, he's got the ball skills. He can certainly play.

765
00:32:01,440 --> 00:32:03,440
Speaker 6: I think either free or strong. I think you can

766
00:32:03,440 --> 00:32:05,720
Speaker 6: put them in either spot at the next level. Really

767
00:32:05,720 --> 00:32:07,240
Speaker 6: talented player that I think is going to end up

768
00:32:07,280 --> 00:32:07,960
Speaker 6: going early Day three.

769
00:32:08,120 --> 00:32:09,880
Speaker 3: I'm finishing up my drafted bio.

770
00:32:10,120 --> 00:32:13,080
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm finishing up to draft bios for the magazine

771
00:32:13,120 --> 00:32:15,160
Speaker 4: today and I'm on safety and I'm trying to finish

772
00:32:15,160 --> 00:32:18,640
Speaker 4: those up. I was watching mccuba right before walking down

773
00:32:18,720 --> 00:32:21,440
Speaker 4: here to do talking, and I was really impressed. I'm thinking,

774
00:32:21,440 --> 00:32:23,960
Speaker 4: I'm I haven't finished him yet. I'm probably thinking like

775
00:32:24,000 --> 00:32:24,640
Speaker 4: a second round.

776
00:32:24,720 --> 00:32:29,080
Speaker 3: I was. I forgot think too, like Watts starksmcuba. I

777
00:32:29,120 --> 00:32:30,640
Speaker 3: think those are kind of the guys.

778
00:32:30,480 --> 00:32:32,080
Speaker 2: Ye at forty four, how do you have those? I

779
00:32:32,080 --> 00:32:33,640
Speaker 2: would be fighting for Watson Macuba.

780
00:32:33,760 --> 00:32:34,160
Speaker 3: I would go.

781
00:32:34,480 --> 00:32:35,920
Speaker 6: I think he would be there at seventy six.

782
00:32:36,120 --> 00:32:38,680
Speaker 5: Mcuba, I think he would, dude, I'd throw a freaking party.

783
00:32:38,840 --> 00:32:41,360
Speaker 5: That'd be like Cooper BB two point zero. And I

784
00:32:41,400 --> 00:32:43,960
Speaker 5: ask you, I mean, and I trust what you're saying.

785
00:32:43,960 --> 00:32:45,120
Speaker 5: Why would you think seventy six?

786
00:32:45,320 --> 00:32:47,120
Speaker 6: It's just from what I've heard from people is that

787
00:32:47,120 --> 00:32:48,800
Speaker 6: they they're like, man, this could be an early day

788
00:32:48,800 --> 00:32:51,680
Speaker 6: three guy. I'm like early day three. I'm thinking like two,

789
00:32:52,280 --> 00:32:54,800
Speaker 6: like what kind of value. I just wonder what teams

790
00:32:54,800 --> 00:32:56,120
Speaker 6: are putting value on him at?

791
00:32:56,840 --> 00:32:57,600
Speaker 3: Is it size?

792
00:32:57,720 --> 00:32:59,920
Speaker 4: I mean, but there are other guys that are under

793
00:33:00,040 --> 00:33:02,080
Speaker 4: six foot that are having some success. I mean, we

794
00:33:02,120 --> 00:33:05,240
Speaker 4: talked about Billy Bowman Junr that set's five foot nine, right,

795
00:33:05,720 --> 00:33:08,160
Speaker 4: I mean they there are other guys in this draft

796
00:33:08,160 --> 00:33:11,160
Speaker 4: that are knocked for the height, and Macuba might be

797
00:33:11,200 --> 00:33:11,920
Speaker 4: knocked for the hype.

798
00:33:11,920 --> 00:33:14,480
Speaker 3: But man, his tape is speaking. I just you know,

799
00:33:14,680 --> 00:33:16,720
Speaker 3: the tape is. I think it's excellent. You can watch

800
00:33:16,800 --> 00:33:19,280
Speaker 3: him play against a and ingwatch Mully's playoff games and

801
00:33:19,440 --> 00:33:21,600
Speaker 3: stuff like that, and play. You know, if you look

802
00:33:21,640 --> 00:33:24,760
Speaker 3: at the metrics, his quarterback rating against him was the

803
00:33:24,760 --> 00:33:27,360
Speaker 3: fourth best in the country. You know. I mean he's

804
00:33:27,400 --> 00:33:30,720
Speaker 3: got some quality forced in incompletion of twenty six percent

805
00:33:30,840 --> 00:33:33,960
Speaker 3: of the passes he's faced this season. This guy's got

806
00:33:33,960 --> 00:33:36,200
Speaker 3: some ballhawk in to him, you know. And and I

807
00:33:36,240 --> 00:33:39,400
Speaker 3: and he didn't give up a touchdown and coverage. I think,

808
00:33:39,400 --> 00:33:43,360
Speaker 3: to me, when you watch him play, I'm surprised that

809
00:33:43,360 --> 00:33:46,160
Speaker 3: that the reason. Like I say, I saw a twitchy guy.

810
00:33:46,440 --> 00:33:48,400
Speaker 3: I saw a guy it plays with burst, so I

811
00:33:48,440 --> 00:33:50,560
Speaker 3: guy it plays with his eyes. Saw a guy that

812
00:33:50,600 --> 00:33:52,920
Speaker 3: triggers in support. That's why I had him in the

813
00:33:52,920 --> 00:33:54,640
Speaker 3: second round. I mean, like I said, you can watch him.

814
00:33:54,680 --> 00:33:57,040
Speaker 3: You can watch them these All Star games and get

815
00:33:57,320 --> 00:33:59,760
Speaker 3: and get a pretty nice view of them. Even go

816
00:33:59,760 --> 00:34:02,440
Speaker 3: about you watched the Michigan game. There is another one

817
00:34:02,520 --> 00:34:05,000
Speaker 3: that's very very early in the season. So I think

818
00:34:05,040 --> 00:34:06,960
Speaker 3: this guy's got some special qualities to him. I think

819
00:34:07,280 --> 00:34:09,520
Speaker 3: I think this is my last line in the in

820
00:34:09,560 --> 00:34:11,680
Speaker 3: the thing I think I said, I think media scouts

821
00:34:11,719 --> 00:34:14,480
Speaker 3: are behind this guy in my opinion, is what I said.

822
00:34:14,560 --> 00:34:17,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm with you, very behind, very behind. He's got

823
00:34:17,000 --> 00:34:17,560
Speaker 2: great eyes.

824
00:34:17,680 --> 00:34:19,759
Speaker 8: I think he looks the quarterback really well and is

825
00:34:19,800 --> 00:34:22,160
Speaker 8: able to get into the right spots in past coverage

826
00:34:22,160 --> 00:34:23,439
Speaker 8: and that's why he was able to.

827
00:34:23,520 --> 00:34:24,359
Speaker 2: Pick the ball away.

828
00:34:25,080 --> 00:34:26,880
Speaker 8: He had a great first year at Clemson and then

829
00:34:26,920 --> 00:34:29,080
Speaker 8: you kind of just felt like it was like, where

830
00:34:29,440 --> 00:34:30,000
Speaker 8: where'd he go?

831
00:34:30,880 --> 00:34:31,440
Speaker 2: Where did he go?

832
00:34:31,480 --> 00:34:33,520
Speaker 8: And then he comes back to Texas and it must

833
00:34:33,520 --> 00:34:35,480
Speaker 8: have just worked out better for him because he was excellent.

834
00:34:36,680 --> 00:34:37,560
Speaker 3: He did a nice job.

835
00:34:37,640 --> 00:34:40,920
Speaker 6: He did really the zimbabwe native. Yes, that's so he

836
00:34:40,960 --> 00:34:43,319
Speaker 6: would he would qualify for IPP at the very least

837
00:34:43,800 --> 00:34:46,360
Speaker 6: cool there was anything to put him on the practice

838
00:34:46,360 --> 00:34:48,840
Speaker 6: squad for, but I don't think there's nothing now. But

839
00:34:49,360 --> 00:34:51,239
Speaker 6: the thing, the thing that's tough about this player when

840
00:34:51,239 --> 00:34:54,919
Speaker 6: it comes to the Cowboys is safety. Seventy six. Yeah,

841
00:34:54,920 --> 00:34:56,640
Speaker 6: we would love to grab him a seventy six, But

842
00:34:56,680 --> 00:34:58,360
Speaker 6: then you're giving up another need somewhere else. And we

843
00:34:58,360 --> 00:35:00,000
Speaker 6: just talked about safety earlier in the show. It's like, yeah,

844
00:35:00,000 --> 00:35:01,560
Speaker 6: that's probably something you don't need to spend a premium

845
00:35:01,600 --> 00:35:03,319
Speaker 6: pick one. It's just tough. You wish you were in

846
00:35:03,320 --> 00:35:05,120
Speaker 6: a position where you could spend a seventy six on

847
00:35:05,160 --> 00:35:06,880
Speaker 6: this type of player, and who knows, maybe they do.

848
00:35:06,960 --> 00:35:08,239
Speaker 6: I mean, we look back to last year and they

849
00:35:08,239 --> 00:35:09,759
Speaker 6: took Marshaw Niland in the second round. I think we

850
00:35:09,840 --> 00:35:11,400
Speaker 6: were all looking at each other like, that's not necessarily

851
00:35:11,440 --> 00:35:14,880
Speaker 6: a need. But credit to them for taking BPA. But

852
00:35:15,239 --> 00:35:17,279
Speaker 6: it's giving up a whole lot another spot, and in

853
00:35:17,320 --> 00:35:20,000
Speaker 6: that case it was running back or a linebacker. At

854
00:35:20,000 --> 00:35:21,440
Speaker 6: the time, we didn't think woul get addressed, but they

855
00:35:21,480 --> 00:35:24,160
Speaker 6: ended up swinging back with lea ful. Sure, that's what

856
00:35:24,200 --> 00:35:26,239
Speaker 6: makes it tough for this guy at seventy six.

857
00:35:26,440 --> 00:35:28,080
Speaker 3: So there's question number one of Twitter.

858
00:35:28,120 --> 00:35:32,480
Speaker 4: On the twenty, Levi asked if a draft, if you

859
00:35:32,600 --> 00:35:34,600
Speaker 4: draft a first round offensive tackle.

860
00:35:34,360 --> 00:35:35,600
Speaker 3: Such as Simmons, as that's why I.

861
00:35:35,560 --> 00:35:38,320
Speaker 4: Would take Talking about earlier Campbell, what is your best five?

862
00:35:38,480 --> 00:35:40,640
Speaker 4: Who are you playing and where are you playing them?

863
00:35:40,640 --> 00:35:42,000
Speaker 4: On this Cowboys offensive line?

864
00:35:44,080 --> 00:35:46,600
Speaker 3: Kind of interesting I play Simmons at left tackle, put

865
00:35:46,800 --> 00:35:51,239
Speaker 3: May Smith that left guard, play bb B BB at center.

866
00:35:51,719 --> 00:35:53,239
Speaker 3: There's going to be a battle. Like I say, I

867
00:35:53,280 --> 00:35:56,919
Speaker 3: think Robert Jones will compete, and I agree. I saw

868
00:35:56,960 --> 00:36:00,680
Speaker 3: a tweet this morning from Simi from Nick, Yeah, and

869
00:36:00,719 --> 00:36:02,400
Speaker 3: I think I got this right. Nick, you kind of

870
00:36:02,400 --> 00:36:06,480
Speaker 3: felt like that basically that Affman and Bass are better players.

871
00:36:06,560 --> 00:36:08,320
Speaker 6: I think, so I don't. I don't disagree.

872
00:36:09,480 --> 00:36:11,600
Speaker 3: I don't. I don't disagree with you on that. So

873
00:36:12,080 --> 00:36:14,640
Speaker 3: whoever competes their right guard, and then you know, then

874
00:36:14,640 --> 00:36:17,000
Speaker 3: you're going to see what happens with Steel. And you know,

875
00:36:17,440 --> 00:36:19,640
Speaker 3: I saw I saw Steel in this draft by the way,

876
00:36:20,320 --> 00:36:24,440
Speaker 3: you guys seen Lunt the kid from uh from Connecticut.

877
00:36:24,719 --> 00:36:25,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, did you like it?

878
00:36:26,200 --> 00:36:26,799
Speaker 6: Yeah?

879
00:36:26,840 --> 00:36:31,400
Speaker 3: I did. Yukon Yeah, yu konn Yeah. Fourth round. So yeah,

880
00:36:31,440 --> 00:36:33,759
Speaker 3: that's that's kind of where I but to me, that's

881
00:36:34,200 --> 00:36:36,680
Speaker 3: those are my those my five guys, and like we'll

882
00:36:36,680 --> 00:36:40,279
Speaker 3: see what happens. Let Geyton compete, you know with with

883
00:36:40,400 --> 00:36:42,560
Speaker 3: Steele at right at right right tackle.

884
00:36:44,080 --> 00:36:46,239
Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm definitely Josh Simmons would play left tackle for me,

885
00:36:46,320 --> 00:36:49,120
Speaker 5: Like I think he'd instantly be He's a better prospect

886
00:36:49,160 --> 00:36:50,960
Speaker 5: than I think Guyton was a year ago for.

887
00:36:51,080 --> 00:36:54,560
Speaker 4: Showing Lunt on the on the highlights. This is Terrence Steele.

888
00:36:55,040 --> 00:36:57,359
Speaker 4: According to to Brian, when you look at it, it's

889
00:36:57,400 --> 00:36:58,600
Speaker 4: got the big numbers, just.

890
00:36:58,560 --> 00:36:59,960
Speaker 2: A big block.

891
00:37:00,200 --> 00:37:03,200
Speaker 3: This guy. Okay, you want to play lead, lead block

892
00:37:03,280 --> 00:37:05,239
Speaker 3: and pend and poll, you want to play all those things?

893
00:37:05,360 --> 00:37:08,520
Speaker 3: This guy right here can can absolutely do. He plays

894
00:37:08,560 --> 00:37:12,439
Speaker 3: really well in space. His his range is really really good.

895
00:37:12,560 --> 00:37:13,640
Speaker 6: He can he when he.

896
00:37:13,560 --> 00:37:17,719
Speaker 3: Connects onto to his uh, to his blockers, to the defenders,

897
00:37:17,800 --> 00:37:19,960
Speaker 3: he could stay with them. This guy's a really good

898
00:37:19,960 --> 00:37:22,960
Speaker 3: foot athlete. I I am usually really wrong with these

899
00:37:23,000 --> 00:37:26,279
Speaker 3: about these guys because they're not strong enough. But I've

900
00:37:26,280 --> 00:37:29,920
Speaker 3: gotten burned over the years with with guys. You know,

901
00:37:30,000 --> 00:37:33,480
Speaker 3: with all these guys that those uh, those Colorado kids

902
00:37:33,480 --> 00:37:36,240
Speaker 3: that were all undersized the U c l A tackled

903
00:37:36,280 --> 00:37:39,400
Speaker 3: one year that went to the Raiders. Every year, I

904
00:37:39,440 --> 00:37:41,879
Speaker 3: get these these guys wrong. This kid, those are really

905
00:37:41,920 --> 00:37:42,719
Speaker 3: good player. Though.

906
00:37:42,760 --> 00:37:45,560
Speaker 6: For you, a guy that I felt like was uh

907
00:37:45,640 --> 00:37:48,399
Speaker 6: Terrence Steele, Like was Marcus bo out of Purdue. Yeah,

908
00:37:48,800 --> 00:37:51,320
Speaker 6: probably a higher graded player than than a Chase Lunt,

909
00:37:51,320 --> 00:37:51,920
Speaker 6: But man, I.

910
00:37:51,920 --> 00:37:54,600
Speaker 2: Love if this and the third you like him as

911
00:37:54,640 --> 00:37:55,080
Speaker 2: a tackler.

912
00:37:55,640 --> 00:37:58,160
Speaker 3: I do like them. Anybody think about him playing center?

913
00:37:59,000 --> 00:37:59,960
Speaker 6: See, he talked about that.

914
00:38:00,320 --> 00:38:03,240
Speaker 5: I want to kick him inside. I love the athleticism inside.

915
00:38:03,239 --> 00:38:04,680
Speaker 6: He talked about that at Senior Bowl. He's like, look,

916
00:38:04,719 --> 00:38:06,040
Speaker 6: I'd be willing to play all five sp.

917
00:38:06,000 --> 00:38:07,360
Speaker 2: Sure, but he's super smart.

918
00:38:07,480 --> 00:38:07,680
Speaker 6: Yeah.

919
00:38:07,760 --> 00:38:09,880
Speaker 4: Yeah, so I could see that he was awesome that

920
00:38:10,000 --> 00:38:13,000
Speaker 4: he just sat down and started just talking to a senior.

921
00:38:13,800 --> 00:38:14,760
Speaker 3: Yeah. Great, dude.

922
00:38:15,960 --> 00:38:18,560
Speaker 4: A couple other questions for some Twitter on the twenty

923
00:38:18,640 --> 00:38:22,799
Speaker 4: here a lot of Miles Sanders talk because I think

924
00:38:22,800 --> 00:38:24,000
Speaker 4: he just got he just got released.

925
00:38:24,080 --> 00:38:25,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, everybody's talking about Miles Sanders.

926
00:38:25,880 --> 00:38:28,000
Speaker 4: That doesn't change anything for you guys, since there's like

927
00:38:28,400 --> 00:38:31,879
Speaker 4: forty five comments about him, right, No, nothing at all.

928
00:38:33,680 --> 00:38:37,399
Speaker 4: Sh Man, This is tougher than doing Twitter on the twenty. Uh,

929
00:38:37,520 --> 00:38:41,600
Speaker 4: professor oh on Twitter, Matt Owen up, Matt Yeah he

930
00:38:41,719 --> 00:38:44,800
Speaker 4: uh he said knowing that. Brian Schottenheimer, this guy described

931
00:38:44,880 --> 00:38:46,960
Speaker 4: his running back preference, and here are some of the

932
00:38:47,000 --> 00:38:49,440
Speaker 4: ways he described it. You want a guy who's got vision,

933
00:38:49,800 --> 00:38:54,520
Speaker 4: he's got contact balance, balance, able to make hidden yards,

934
00:38:54,800 --> 00:38:57,319
Speaker 4: a guy that's willing to run through arm tackles, catch

935
00:38:57,360 --> 00:38:59,600
Speaker 4: the ball out of the backfield. Does that give you

936
00:38:59,640 --> 00:39:01,680
Speaker 4: any site on the type of running back and the

937
00:39:01,960 --> 00:39:04,760
Speaker 4: type of prospect that they could take whenever the draft

938
00:39:04,760 --> 00:39:05,800
Speaker 4: comes around in April.

939
00:39:06,920 --> 00:39:08,760
Speaker 8: Yeah, I think I think that kind of fits Ashton

940
00:39:08,800 --> 00:39:14,759
Speaker 8: Gent's mold. So yeah, that fish that fits Ashton Genzy's mold.

941
00:39:14,800 --> 00:39:15,760
Speaker 2: I think Devin Neil.

942
00:39:15,600 --> 00:39:17,920
Speaker 8: Out of Kansas there's another running back that fits that

943
00:39:18,000 --> 00:39:20,120
Speaker 8: mold just because of what he can do. Scataboo as

944
00:39:20,120 --> 00:39:24,879
Speaker 8: a pass catcher. Yeah, Scataboo. I guess I'm not as

945
00:39:24,920 --> 00:39:26,279
Speaker 8: high on on scatterb oh No.

946
00:39:26,360 --> 00:39:28,040
Speaker 3: I mean, but if you look at guys that broke

947
00:39:28,120 --> 00:39:31,239
Speaker 3: tackles right out right and they catch the catch out

948
00:39:31,239 --> 00:39:34,160
Speaker 3: of the backfield, and mean that's clearly if you if

949
00:39:34,200 --> 00:39:37,800
Speaker 3: you watched is it Tutting from Virginia Tech? You guys

950
00:39:37,800 --> 00:39:38,480
Speaker 3: watched him? Yeah?

951
00:39:38,480 --> 00:39:40,600
Speaker 5: See he he had a blazing time at the combine.

952
00:39:40,640 --> 00:39:42,040
Speaker 5: But no, I haven't watched him yet.

953
00:39:42,160 --> 00:39:42,359
Speaker 3: Yeah.

954
00:39:42,480 --> 00:39:45,000
Speaker 2: Him speed, Like did that translate when you watched him?

955
00:39:45,120 --> 00:39:47,319
Speaker 3: He plays really fast. I mean, and there's a kid

956
00:39:47,480 --> 00:39:51,880
Speaker 3: uh in cross key merrit. Yeah, he's got an interesting

957
00:39:52,160 --> 00:39:54,279
Speaker 3: you know, he was fascinating. You have to watch him.

958
00:39:54,320 --> 00:39:56,640
Speaker 3: You have to watch him play. He started off at

959
00:39:56,400 --> 00:39:59,920
Speaker 3: at Alabama A and M and ended up in New Mexico.

960
00:40:00,000 --> 00:40:02,160
Speaker 3: So you're gonna have to watch the Mexico tape because

961
00:40:02,160 --> 00:40:04,680
Speaker 3: he only played at Arizona one year. He was academic

962
00:40:04,800 --> 00:40:08,080
Speaker 3: one one game, one game, So yeah, you're gonna have

963
00:40:08,080 --> 00:40:10,320
Speaker 3: to watch New Mexico tape. Try and grab the Texas

964
00:40:10,360 --> 00:40:12,160
Speaker 3: A and M game if you can. Is it one that.

965
00:40:12,280 --> 00:40:15,080
Speaker 6: It wasn't an academic and eligible I just want to

966
00:40:15,080 --> 00:40:16,719
Speaker 6: make sure that's that was cleared up. It was an

967
00:40:16,800 --> 00:40:19,840
Speaker 6: NCAA eligibility rule. They didn't think that he was supposed

968
00:40:19,880 --> 00:40:23,200
Speaker 6: to be eligible, and so he thought he was and

969
00:40:23,239 --> 00:40:26,400
Speaker 6: he was portal landed at Arizona. Everything was cool and dandy,

970
00:40:26,680 --> 00:40:28,120
Speaker 6: and then after the first game of the season, the

971
00:40:28,200 --> 00:40:30,719
Speaker 6: NCAA was like, wait, you're not eligible and they pulled

972
00:40:30,719 --> 00:40:34,160
Speaker 6: his eligibility. It was after strange that so it happened

973
00:40:34,200 --> 00:40:39,200
Speaker 6: to do with his freshman season at Alabama A and M. Right,

974
00:40:39,640 --> 00:40:44,600
Speaker 6: he was credited for I think eight games, but he claims,

975
00:40:44,640 --> 00:40:46,799
Speaker 6: and the school claims. Alabama A and M claims that

976
00:40:46,840 --> 00:40:49,120
Speaker 6: he only played in three games. So like he was like,

977
00:40:49,160 --> 00:40:52,040
Speaker 6: I preserved my red shirt, my friend year and NCAA

978
00:40:52,120 --> 00:40:54,520
Speaker 6: they can They were like, no, you played eight games.

979
00:40:54,560 --> 00:40:56,480
Speaker 6: But even though everybody under the sun is like this

980
00:40:56,520 --> 00:40:58,839
Speaker 6: guy only played three games. Really strange that you run

981
00:40:58,880 --> 00:41:00,120
Speaker 6: into that problem in twenty twenty.

982
00:41:00,239 --> 00:41:01,680
Speaker 3: That sounds like a book kicking thing.

983
00:41:01,760 --> 00:41:03,759
Speaker 6: Yeah, it sounds like a nineteen seventies issues, Like.

984
00:41:03,760 --> 00:41:06,080
Speaker 4: Somebody, somebody in the press box was just like right

985
00:41:06,120 --> 00:41:07,040
Speaker 4: in that starters.

986
00:41:07,239 --> 00:41:09,680
Speaker 6: Yeah, you know, really tough for that. I feel for him,

987
00:41:09,719 --> 00:41:12,080
Speaker 6: But he's Shrine Bowl MVP, really talented player. Yeah, he's

988
00:41:12,080 --> 00:41:13,160
Speaker 6: just probably gonna be a UDF.

989
00:41:13,320 --> 00:41:15,279
Speaker 2: Well he I mean all the Shrine Bowl practices, he

990
00:41:15,360 --> 00:41:16,040
Speaker 2: was a standout.

991
00:41:16,080 --> 00:41:16,279
Speaker 3: Yeah.

992
00:41:16,360 --> 00:41:19,000
Speaker 2: Cross and he can catch the ball. Yeah, I mean

993
00:41:19,000 --> 00:41:19,600
Speaker 2: he's he's.

994
00:41:21,120 --> 00:41:24,840
Speaker 6: Right fresh legsy, fresh legs. Another guy that I'd like

995
00:41:24,960 --> 00:41:27,440
Speaker 6: to throw in this mix is Damien Martinez. I'm going

996
00:41:27,480 --> 00:41:29,839
Speaker 6: to continue to hammer his name. I have a third

997
00:41:29,880 --> 00:41:31,640
Speaker 6: round grade on him. Six foot, two hundred and thirty

998
00:41:31,640 --> 00:41:36,360
Speaker 6: two pounds, absolute unit. He terrorizes inside. I he doesn't

999
00:41:36,360 --> 00:41:38,960
Speaker 6: have the home run speed, but he can break those

1000
00:41:39,080 --> 00:41:41,759
Speaker 6: arm tackles we were talking about, and the receiving necks

1001
00:41:41,760 --> 00:41:43,680
Speaker 6: are there, they just need to be utilized. I don't

1002
00:41:43,680 --> 00:41:47,359
Speaker 6: think that they're necessarily utilized at Miami or Oregon State,

1003
00:41:47,400 --> 00:41:49,640
Speaker 6: to be honest, but I've seen those receiving next from

1004
00:41:49,680 --> 00:41:51,080
Speaker 6: his time in high school. He can get out of

1005
00:41:51,120 --> 00:41:53,319
Speaker 6: the backfield. He has route running ability. I think this

1006
00:41:53,360 --> 00:41:54,480
Speaker 6: is a guy you could trust out to.

1007
00:41:54,440 --> 00:41:57,480
Speaker 3: The Oregon State, right, yes, Oregon State. Okay, wait, you

1008
00:41:57,600 --> 00:42:02,120
Speaker 3: just said Martinez. He plays Miami. He transferens state or

1009
00:42:02,320 --> 00:42:03,880
Speaker 3: state or state. Yeah.

1010
00:42:04,040 --> 00:42:06,759
Speaker 4: But when you look at what he did at Miami too,

1011
00:42:06,800 --> 00:42:10,799
Speaker 4: and the Michigan the Bowl tape, I mean he's he's

1012
00:42:10,880 --> 00:42:16,239
Speaker 4: legitimate too. Are you talking about Damian Martinez? Yeah, yeah, Miami. Yeah,

1013
00:42:16,280 --> 00:42:19,280
Speaker 4: he went to school at Oregon State forehand. Oh yeah, Okay,

1014
00:42:19,280 --> 00:42:21,360
Speaker 4: I was like I got confused there for a second.

1015
00:42:21,600 --> 00:42:24,480
Speaker 2: Now Louisville or Louisville kid, right, Louisville kid.

1016
00:42:24,600 --> 00:42:26,920
Speaker 6: Yeah, and hereby shout out to Biember. He's throwing up

1017
00:42:26,920 --> 00:42:28,759
Speaker 6: a lot of the receiving tape on this on this

1018
00:42:28,800 --> 00:42:31,160
Speaker 6: clip right here, but he got it physic. I think

1019
00:42:31,160 --> 00:42:32,520
Speaker 6: he's a guy you do not want to see in

1020
00:42:32,520 --> 00:42:34,080
Speaker 6: the hole at two hundred and thirty two pounds. Now,

1021
00:42:34,080 --> 00:42:35,000
Speaker 6: he's just not Who.

1022
00:42:34,840 --> 00:42:36,960
Speaker 2: Do you have higher, Martinez or Jordan James.

1023
00:42:38,080 --> 00:42:40,799
Speaker 6: I have a Martinez. I'm a Martinez, stand I really,

1024
00:42:41,040 --> 00:42:44,400
Speaker 6: but I look, James, I'm Jordan James guy, I really am.

1025
00:42:44,480 --> 00:42:46,520
Speaker 6: But I told a lot of guys. I have a

1026
00:42:46,520 --> 00:42:48,120
Speaker 6: lot of these guys in the second and third round.

1027
00:42:48,120 --> 00:42:49,560
Speaker 6: I had him a young guy in that range too,

1028
00:42:49,600 --> 00:42:51,080
Speaker 6: but he did not run well. He did not test

1029
00:42:51,080 --> 00:42:53,600
Speaker 6: twealth combine and that really disappointed me. Uh so I

1030
00:42:54,120 --> 00:42:55,080
Speaker 6: slipped him a little bit.

1031
00:42:55,120 --> 00:42:57,080
Speaker 3: But that where do you have like Brooks in that group?

1032
00:42:57,120 --> 00:42:58,840
Speaker 3: Then Texas tech TODs Brooks.

1033
00:42:58,880 --> 00:43:01,600
Speaker 6: I have him. Uh let's see, I have him early fourth.

1034
00:43:01,680 --> 00:43:04,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, that's why I wish we had that four.

1035
00:43:04,760 --> 00:43:08,120
Speaker 4: Anybody have Yeah, me too. Anybody have Rocket Sanders from

1036
00:43:08,160 --> 00:43:09,000
Speaker 4: South Carolina.

1037
00:43:09,400 --> 00:43:10,239
Speaker 3: I've not seen him.

1038
00:43:10,360 --> 00:43:13,239
Speaker 5: Rock Standers is a good player, yeah, solid, I mean

1039
00:43:13,440 --> 00:43:15,360
Speaker 5: very productive. I thought he was productive at Arkansas, he

1040
00:43:15,360 --> 00:43:18,799
Speaker 5: was productive in South Carolina. Can win between the tackles, obviously,

1041
00:43:19,400 --> 00:43:21,560
Speaker 5: can break tackles. As a receiving back. I think he

1042
00:43:21,600 --> 00:43:23,160
Speaker 5: did a little bit more of that at Arkansas than

1043
00:43:23,200 --> 00:43:26,279
Speaker 5: I saw at South Carolina. Pass protection I think could

1044
00:43:26,320 --> 00:43:28,560
Speaker 5: improve a little bit, but he's a willing pass protector.

1045
00:43:29,160 --> 00:43:31,200
Speaker 2: I like Rocket Sanders. I don't love him as much

1046
00:43:31,200 --> 00:43:33,320
Speaker 2: as like RJ. Harvey. I would take over him personally

1047
00:43:33,360 --> 00:43:34,560
Speaker 2: out of UCF. I like RJ.

1048
00:43:34,640 --> 00:43:36,920
Speaker 5: Harvey more than any of these guys we've actually been

1049
00:43:36,920 --> 00:43:37,399
Speaker 5: talking about.

1050
00:43:37,480 --> 00:43:37,640
Speaker 11: R J.

1051
00:43:37,719 --> 00:43:39,520
Speaker 2: Harvey would be my dude that fits that description.

1052
00:43:39,719 --> 00:43:41,520
Speaker 4: I have him over everybody except for James.

1053
00:43:41,560 --> 00:43:43,160
Speaker 5: But I think Rockett Sanders has been a little like

1054
00:43:43,400 --> 00:43:45,239
Speaker 5: in a running back him and Donovan Edwards at a

1055
00:43:45,280 --> 00:43:48,080
Speaker 5: Michigan like in a running back draft that it's just like, gosh,

1056
00:43:48,080 --> 00:43:51,000
Speaker 5: we've got so many players to talk about. He gets

1057
00:43:51,000 --> 00:43:53,520
Speaker 5: slept on, and so does Donovan Edwards, who two years ago,

1058
00:43:54,040 --> 00:43:56,319
Speaker 5: especially coming off the National Championship Game and the win

1059
00:43:56,360 --> 00:43:58,840
Speaker 5: over Washington. Like Donovan Edwards, we talked about a lot

1060
00:43:58,880 --> 00:44:00,640
Speaker 5: of these guys, they don't have the home run speed

1061
00:44:01,000 --> 00:44:03,719
Speaker 5: Edwards does. Edwards is a dude who's just gonna fly

1062
00:44:03,880 --> 00:44:05,239
Speaker 5: and you're not gonna be able to catch him.

1063
00:44:05,320 --> 00:44:06,600
Speaker 3: Was he was a straight line runner though?

1064
00:44:06,680 --> 00:44:08,000
Speaker 2: Yeah he is? Yeah right.

1065
00:44:08,120 --> 00:44:11,400
Speaker 5: So it's like the again, like they all have qualities

1066
00:44:11,440 --> 00:44:13,560
Speaker 5: where like if I could combine them, it'd be perfect.

1067
00:44:13,600 --> 00:44:13,839
Speaker 3: Sure.

1068
00:44:13,880 --> 00:44:15,799
Speaker 5: So there's knocks on Edwards two, But those are two

1069
00:44:15,800 --> 00:44:18,240
Speaker 5: guys that are being I think not discussed as heavily

1070
00:44:18,280 --> 00:44:18,720
Speaker 5: as others.

1071
00:44:18,800 --> 00:44:20,480
Speaker 6: I hate to rain on your party. Here's that you

1072
00:44:20,560 --> 00:44:23,480
Speaker 6: know who Donovan Edwards reminds me of both Scarborough or

1073
00:44:23,560 --> 00:44:25,640
Speaker 6: it was just like early in his careers, like this

1074
00:44:25,640 --> 00:44:28,280
Speaker 6: guy's gonna be the this guy's shoes, he's gonna be awesome.

1075
00:44:28,960 --> 00:44:30,920
Speaker 2: Not that big, He's not that big. Faster than his

1076
00:44:31,000 --> 00:44:31,880
Speaker 2: career trajectory.

1077
00:44:31,960 --> 00:44:34,360
Speaker 6: Okay, an injury stack up. He ends up in the

1078
00:44:34,400 --> 00:44:34,960
Speaker 6: seventh round.

1079
00:44:35,080 --> 00:44:36,719
Speaker 3: He was on the cover of the video game.

1080
00:44:37,360 --> 00:44:38,320
Speaker 2: But you're looking at day.

1081
00:44:38,200 --> 00:44:40,759
Speaker 6: Three for sure, I wouldn't touch him. I mean, and

1082
00:44:40,880 --> 00:44:43,480
Speaker 6: you talk about the you talk about the injuries that

1083
00:44:43,520 --> 00:44:45,439
Speaker 6: have stacked up with him. Looking at my injury history,

1084
00:44:45,480 --> 00:44:47,720
Speaker 6: I put on here, torn pateeller in twenty two, knee

1085
00:44:47,719 --> 00:44:50,640
Speaker 6: surgery in twenty three, achilles injury in twenty three, broken

1086
00:44:50,719 --> 00:44:53,240
Speaker 6: right thumb, he had a mystery chest and leg injury.

1087
00:44:53,280 --> 00:44:56,080
Speaker 6: This past season. He's mentioned he's mentioned how injuries have

1088
00:44:56,120 --> 00:44:58,799
Speaker 6: made him mentally hurt. I mean, I'm staying away from.

1089
00:44:58,719 --> 00:45:02,200
Speaker 2: The well, that's that's if you're mentally hurt. I don't

1090
00:45:02,200 --> 00:45:03,040
Speaker 2: know if we can fix that.

1091
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Speaker 3: Sound like a mentally bad grade, then hey, I didn't

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Speaker 3: Day three. No, I'm just saying I'm not pointing at you.

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00:45:10,120 --> 00:45:13,719
Speaker 3: I'm just saying you sounds he brought him up.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean when you look at this draft class,

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Speaker 4: and we've talked about it a number of times, the

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Speaker 4: running back class. We're going to look back on this

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Speaker 4: and say, wow, Yeah, there were twenty names, twenty five

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Speaker 4: names that were drafted. A lot half of them are

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Speaker 4: gonna end up just being dudes, like they're gonna.

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Speaker 3: End up being great players.

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Speaker 4: We're gonna look back and say, wow, twenty twenty five

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00:45:36,239 --> 00:45:38,640
Speaker 4: was an incredible draft class. But then they're gonna be

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00:45:38,640 --> 00:45:41,960
Speaker 4: fifteen names that are duds in the NFL. And that's

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Speaker 4: what's terrifying about this is you don't want to necessarily

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Speaker 4: grab one of the duds. You want to take a

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Speaker 4: chance on a guy that you really think can be successful.

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00:45:49,360 --> 00:45:51,560
Speaker 4: It's the best running back class that I've scouted since

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Speaker 4: taking over in twenty twenty. Brian, I don't know if

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Speaker 4: you share that same show.

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Speaker 3: It's pretty impressive across the board. All right, let's take

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Speaker 3: our second break win.

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Speaker 4: When we'd come back, of course, we're still talking about

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Speaker 4: these free agents and how it kind of affects things

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Speaker 4: moving forwards. We mentioned a lot on the defensive side,

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Speaker 4: anything on the offensive side of the ball that you

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Speaker 4: can keep an eye on moving into the rest of

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Speaker 4: free agency and how that could change things for the

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Speaker 4: All right back here the Draft show, Zach Walchuk Brian

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Speaker 4: the back putting up all the great tape. We've gotten

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Speaker 4: a lot of questions over the last couple of shows

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Speaker 4: and we haven't hit tight end, and we were talking

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Speaker 4: about offensive guys. Early, is tight end to need for.

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Speaker 3: This Cowboys team moving forward?

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Speaker 4: And what names would you be interested in at the

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Speaker 4: top of the list when it comes to the tight

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Speaker 4: end position.

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Speaker 2: I don't think it's in need early. I think you've

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Speaker 2: got other other.

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Speaker 4: Issues and it's tough to look at it in those

1179
00:49:32,719 --> 00:49:34,040
Speaker 4: first three rounds, right.

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Speaker 8: If you look, I think you look later and look

1181
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Speaker 8: for some value guys, and I think there are some.

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Speaker 2: I think there are.

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Speaker 8: I think you know, you look at some of the

1184
00:49:41,560 --> 00:49:43,799
Speaker 8: guys that competed at the Senior Bowl and at the

1185
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Speaker 8: Shrine Bowl. You know one guy that stood out from Syracuse,

1186
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Speaker 8: Ronda gads in the second. I thought he was pretty good.

1187
00:49:50,320 --> 00:49:55,120
Speaker 8: Jalen Conyers from Texas Tech is y blocker, ate blocking.

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Speaker 8: I feel like he performed really well. So I think

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Speaker 8: there's some guys that, you know, you look at the

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Speaker 8: those day three guys that you can definitely get. I know,

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Speaker 8: I know Brian's a big fan of Mason Taylor. Taylor

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Speaker 8: out of l s U. He's been super productive all

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Speaker 8: three years there. He didn't test well, but I think

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00:50:10,440 --> 00:50:13,440
Speaker 8: Gunner Helm from Texas will still pan out with you, Okay,

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Speaker 8: Luke Lackey from Iowa.

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Speaker 2: There's a lot of guys I.

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Speaker 8: Feel like that you can you can look at take it,

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Speaker 8: take a pe of me and to take all the

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Speaker 8: names from you guys.

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Speaker 3: Now, you did a great job taking all the names.

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Speaker 2: Thank you.

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Speaker 6: I think that job.

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Speaker 3: Kerics Ferguson keep an eye on him from Oregon, Oregon.

1204
00:50:30,239 --> 00:50:30,680
Speaker 3: I agree.

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Speaker 6: I agree, that's certainly one to throw out. I think

1206
00:50:33,560 --> 00:50:35,160
Speaker 6: when you when you talk about this team, look at

1207
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Speaker 6: this roster specifically, Jake Ferguson's a starter, and he's he's

1208
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Speaker 6: your comfortable starter.

1209
00:50:40,719 --> 00:50:43,360
Speaker 2: Right yeah, Okay, yea and.

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Speaker 6: Luke schoon Maker. How how are we feeling about him?

1211
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Speaker 2: Scooney?

1212
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Speaker 3: How are you feeling about better? I think he I

1213
00:50:49,320 --> 00:50:50,960
Speaker 3: think he got better as the year went on.

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Speaker 6: He got faced with a almost cussed a lot of adversity.

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Speaker 6: That was really close, man, That's the close I've ever

1216
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Speaker 6: been in the studio. He got faced a lot of

1217
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Speaker 6: adversity last last season, and he answered Ferguson whenever Jake

1218
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Speaker 6: Ferguson went down with that concussion. Yeah, he answered with

1219
00:51:07,200 --> 00:51:07,480
Speaker 6: it well.

1220
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Speaker 4: And he had a better connection with Cooper Rush than

1221
00:51:09,280 --> 00:51:10,680
Speaker 4: he did with Dak Prescott too.

1222
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Speaker 6: And but Dak Prescott's going to be his quarterback, so exactly,

1223
00:51:13,800 --> 00:51:15,960
Speaker 6: how how do you feel about Schoomaker moving forward? And

1224
00:51:15,960 --> 00:51:17,800
Speaker 6: then the death of that room behind him and Ford?

1225
00:51:17,840 --> 00:51:20,800
Speaker 6: Do you you have spanned Ford who certainly has shown

1226
00:51:20,800 --> 00:51:22,839
Speaker 6: some knacks and at the point of attack John Steve

1227
00:51:22,920 --> 00:51:24,839
Speaker 6: and then John Stevens Junior. Can you rely on him

1228
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Speaker 6: to stay healthy and will he be the same player

1229
00:51:26,880 --> 00:51:27,560
Speaker 6: when he comes back?

1230
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Speaker 2: A huge question.

1231
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Speaker 6: I think I think it's worth a Day three pick

1232
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Speaker 6: if you're sitting there and you have needs addressed and

1233
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Speaker 6: you have a player that you really like there If

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Speaker 6: a Jalen Conyers is there in the fifth, man, go

1235
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Speaker 6: swing at that. I don't think Conyor is going to

1236
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Speaker 6: be there in the fifth. But uh that a type

1237
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Speaker 6: of player like that, you wouldn't get a complaint for me.

1238
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Speaker 3: He lost me. You just lost me. You lost me

1239
00:51:47,920 --> 00:51:50,440
Speaker 3: because you won't let me fight for a safety. But

1240
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Speaker 3: you're going to fight for a tight end. I didn't.

1241
00:51:52,480 --> 00:51:53,759
Speaker 6: I wasn't say I was going to fight for a

1242
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Speaker 6: tight end.

1243
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Speaker 3: No, But you said you wouldn't get a complaint from

1244
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Speaker 3: me the fifth round.

1245
00:51:57,520 --> 00:51:58,560
Speaker 6: Yeah, you wouldn't get a complaint.

1246
00:51:58,600 --> 00:52:01,479
Speaker 3: So if I wanted to add a safety like you would,

1247
00:52:01,480 --> 00:52:02,200
Speaker 3: you'd be.

1248
00:52:02,120 --> 00:52:03,000
Speaker 2: Happy with mccooba.

1249
00:52:04,080 --> 00:52:04,640
Speaker 6: I'd be happy.

1250
00:52:04,640 --> 00:52:05,839
Speaker 2: You just don't think that they'll do that.

1251
00:52:06,640 --> 00:52:10,840
Speaker 6: No, No, correct, correct, Yeah, you can't take mccuba in

1252
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Speaker 6: the first three rounds, is what I'm saying. Like, because

1253
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Speaker 6: you don't, you don't have the you don't have the

1254
00:52:14,280 --> 00:52:15,920
Speaker 6: room to do it. You don't you have too many needs.

1255
00:52:15,960 --> 00:52:16,120
Speaker 3: Yea.

1256
00:52:16,160 --> 00:52:17,840
Speaker 6: And if we're talking about it from a tight end, respective,

1257
00:52:18,000 --> 00:52:19,839
Speaker 6: they don't have as much depth as a safety position has.

1258
00:52:19,880 --> 00:52:22,640
Speaker 6: A safety position, you feel like tired room?

1259
00:52:22,680 --> 00:52:24,399
Speaker 3: Do you feel like picking a tight end that would

1260
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Speaker 3: be like maybe you could pick another position.

1261
00:52:27,360 --> 00:52:29,840
Speaker 6: You could. It just depends on what's available to you. Like, Okay,

1262
00:52:29,840 --> 00:52:31,239
Speaker 6: then let's say what if they picked in the first

1263
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Speaker 6: three rounds. What have they picked in the first three rounds.

1264
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Speaker 4: Let's say, uh, corner, running back, running back, wide receiver.

1265
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Speaker 6: Cornerback, wide receiver. Okay, yeah, then you've take You've taken

1266
00:52:40,719 --> 00:52:42,399
Speaker 6: a lot offensive talent. You probably can't take the tight

1267
00:52:42,440 --> 00:52:46,960
Speaker 6: end in that in that situation, okay, defensive tackle, linebacker, corner,

1268
00:52:47,560 --> 00:52:49,640
Speaker 6: like okay, I mean you still need your running back. Yeah,

1269
00:52:49,680 --> 00:52:51,480
Speaker 6: but I mean this is a really talented player. If

1270
00:52:51,480 --> 00:52:53,080
Speaker 6: you feel like you have a really talented player sitting

1271
00:52:53,080 --> 00:52:54,360
Speaker 6: in that in the fifth round, why not.

1272
00:52:55,120 --> 00:52:57,080
Speaker 3: I don't I feel like I'm gonna have to take

1273
00:52:57,080 --> 00:53:01,440
Speaker 3: one of these tight ends earlier in the fifth round

1274
00:53:01,880 --> 00:53:03,920
Speaker 3: if I really want one of if I want a good.

1275
00:53:03,760 --> 00:53:05,040
Speaker 2: One, any one of those four.

1276
00:53:05,160 --> 00:53:07,000
Speaker 3: The tech kid, I mean, I haven't seen the tech kid.

1277
00:53:07,040 --> 00:53:09,880
Speaker 3: Is he a fourth round player? I think sound like

1278
00:53:09,920 --> 00:53:10,879
Speaker 3: he's a third round guy.

1279
00:53:11,320 --> 00:53:13,000
Speaker 6: I gotta think he's going to go early. You think

1280
00:53:13,400 --> 00:53:14,320
Speaker 6: early day three.

1281
00:53:14,200 --> 00:53:16,240
Speaker 5: See I The guy that i'd argue for is Aronde

1282
00:53:16,360 --> 00:53:20,839
Speaker 5: Gadson out of Syracuse and his son or his dad

1283
00:53:20,880 --> 00:53:23,719
Speaker 5: was a wide receiver as with the Miners dollars. Well,

1284
00:53:23,760 --> 00:53:26,160
Speaker 5: he's the son of a former NFL player who played

1285
00:53:26,160 --> 00:53:29,560
Speaker 5: for the Miami Dolphins. Ronde Gads And right, yeah, well,

1286
00:53:30,600 --> 00:53:32,680
Speaker 5: big fan of this dude. He's another Shrine Bowl guy

1287
00:53:32,719 --> 00:53:34,239
Speaker 5: and he dominated when we got to watch him with

1288
00:53:34,280 --> 00:53:36,000
Speaker 5: the Shrine Bowls. So you talk about a dude in

1289
00:53:36,080 --> 00:53:39,760
Speaker 5: terms of receiving ability, silky smooth route runner, tremendous bods,

1290
00:53:40,880 --> 00:53:43,120
Speaker 5: that's a guy Day three like. I think you're getting

1291
00:53:43,160 --> 00:53:46,000
Speaker 5: possibly a future starter in Aronde Gads And I think

1292
00:53:46,000 --> 00:53:47,680
Speaker 5: he's better than every guy that we've named here in

1293
00:53:47,680 --> 00:53:48,480
Speaker 5: this segment so far.

1294
00:53:48,600 --> 00:53:51,120
Speaker 6: They can't do anything like balking perspective in my opinion.

1295
00:53:51,120 --> 00:53:54,320
Speaker 5: Not a blocker, uh no, not Gunner Helm, but the

1296
00:53:54,400 --> 00:53:55,319
Speaker 5: Day three like Gunner Helms.

1297
00:53:55,320 --> 00:53:56,960
Speaker 2: I don't think it is a Day three player. Gunner

1298
00:53:57,000 --> 00:53:58,080
Speaker 2: Hilm's a third rounder.

1299
00:53:58,120 --> 00:54:00,080
Speaker 4: I was about to say, because we've named Taylor and

1300
00:54:00,120 --> 00:54:06,840
Speaker 4: but I'm talking about Conyers Luke l the Iowa kid better. Okay,

1301
00:54:07,840 --> 00:54:10,319
Speaker 4: when you talked about Terrence Ferguson, that is he in

1302
00:54:10,360 --> 00:54:11,040
Speaker 4: that same catgy.

1303
00:54:11,200 --> 00:54:13,120
Speaker 2: I think he's better than Ferguson too. Personally. I think

1304
00:54:13,120 --> 00:54:14,560
Speaker 2: if you watch dads, I think you like it more

1305
00:54:14,560 --> 00:54:15,120
Speaker 2: than Ferguson.

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00:54:15,200 --> 00:54:17,320
Speaker 6: Kay, I like Ferguson a little bit more, but I

1307
00:54:17,440 --> 00:54:18,160
Speaker 6: undertand w we're going.

1308
00:54:18,200 --> 00:54:21,479
Speaker 3: I love you guys. Had the Fanning kid from Bowling Green. See.

1309
00:54:21,480 --> 00:54:23,239
Speaker 6: I loved him early on, and I loved him during

1310
00:54:23,239 --> 00:54:24,839
Speaker 6: the season. I was like, my gosh, like every time

1311
00:54:24,880 --> 00:54:26,839
Speaker 6: Bowling TV I was watching him.

1312
00:54:26,960 --> 00:54:29,560
Speaker 4: Well, he was the most productive tight end in college

1313
00:54:29,600 --> 00:54:30,360
Speaker 4: football history.

1314
00:54:30,480 --> 00:54:30,680
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1315
00:54:30,719 --> 00:54:33,520
Speaker 4: I mean he put up more yardage, more touchdowns, more receptions,

1316
00:54:33,560 --> 00:54:35,080
Speaker 4: and more games than any other dight end.

1317
00:54:35,120 --> 00:54:35,319
Speaker 3: Ever.

1318
00:54:35,360 --> 00:54:37,320
Speaker 6: I'm talking about fighting through guys all my seat on

1319
00:54:37,360 --> 00:54:39,319
Speaker 6: the tape right there. He can certainly do so. But

1320
00:54:39,400 --> 00:54:41,240
Speaker 6: as the process has gone on, he started to slip

1321
00:54:41,239 --> 00:54:42,759
Speaker 6: a little bit for me. Senior Bowl, he didn't do

1322
00:54:42,800 --> 00:54:45,640
Speaker 6: anything fantastic for me. He was getting locked down by

1323
00:54:45,760 --> 00:54:50,719
Speaker 6: some undersized dbs, and so I wonder if maybe level

1324
00:54:50,719 --> 00:54:52,680
Speaker 6: of competition, he's gonna have a little bit of an

1325
00:54:52,960 --> 00:54:55,520
Speaker 6: adjustment period to the NFL. But I think this is

1326
00:54:55,560 --> 00:54:56,880
Speaker 6: still a guy you would take a chance on if

1327
00:54:56,880 --> 00:54:58,399
Speaker 6: he's sitting there in the third round. I'm not saying

1328
00:54:58,400 --> 00:55:00,560
Speaker 6: for the Cowboys. I'm just saying in general, I think, yeah,

1329
00:55:00,600 --> 00:55:02,160
Speaker 6: ye are. He would be a guy you would take

1330
00:55:02,160 --> 00:55:02,799
Speaker 6: a chance on them.

1331
00:55:02,880 --> 00:55:06,279
Speaker 3: Okay, if if if you had Fannin in Helm in

1332
00:55:06,320 --> 00:55:07,719
Speaker 3: the third round, which one would you take?

1333
00:55:07,840 --> 00:55:09,959
Speaker 6: I have Fannin over Helm right now, I have Helm

1334
00:55:10,000 --> 00:55:10,640
Speaker 6: over Fannin.

1335
00:55:10,800 --> 00:55:14,759
Speaker 2: I'll be Helm over fan I had fan In too.

1336
00:55:14,800 --> 00:55:16,680
Speaker 3: But I was I was thinking, and and it's not

1337
00:55:16,800 --> 00:55:19,160
Speaker 3: about the Texas, about the kid when he worked out

1338
00:55:19,160 --> 00:55:21,359
Speaker 3: and all that, because I think, if I really think

1339
00:55:21,400 --> 00:55:23,280
Speaker 3: I could go to Austin, I could time him better.

1340
00:55:23,360 --> 00:55:24,799
Speaker 3: I know I can do a lot of things better

1341
00:55:24,840 --> 00:55:26,840
Speaker 3: with him if I want to. But I was just

1342
00:55:26,920 --> 00:55:29,880
Speaker 3: curious about Fanning. Is he really that guy? You know?

1343
00:55:30,000 --> 00:55:31,600
Speaker 3: I don't think so well.

1344
00:55:31,600 --> 00:55:35,239
Speaker 2: And I just watching him run like hurts me.

1345
00:55:36,840 --> 00:55:40,520
Speaker 5: It looks like he's painful, lumbering, like he has no

1346
00:55:40,760 --> 00:55:43,240
Speaker 5: bend at all. That it's not all in the hips

1347
00:55:43,239 --> 00:55:47,160
Speaker 5: with Fannin. But yet somehow the dude's open. He's a huge, big,

1348
00:55:47,200 --> 00:55:49,759
Speaker 5: reliable target. He could be really good in the red zone.

1349
00:55:49,800 --> 00:55:52,120
Speaker 5: He could give you like Antonio Gates, like red zone

1350
00:55:52,200 --> 00:55:53,360
Speaker 5: numbers possibly.

1351
00:55:53,040 --> 00:55:54,400
Speaker 3: See but he's not that big though.

1352
00:55:54,560 --> 00:55:57,359
Speaker 2: I mean, overall, six four thirty dudes pretty big.

1353
00:55:57,400 --> 00:55:59,680
Speaker 4: He measured out at six three two thirty eight at

1354
00:55:59,719 --> 00:56:00,359
Speaker 4: the mine.

1355
00:56:00,480 --> 00:56:03,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, so I mean that's still a solid size.

1356
00:56:03,400 --> 00:56:06,239
Speaker 4: Piece in size, but you're not talking about Film who's

1357
00:56:06,280 --> 00:56:09,200
Speaker 4: six five two fifty two, Joe Baylor, who's six five

1358
00:56:09,280 --> 00:56:12,160
Speaker 4: two fifty Like, I mean, there's other bigger tight ends

1359
00:56:12,160 --> 00:56:15,000
Speaker 4: that are available. Fannin is a little bit undersized.

1360
00:56:14,560 --> 00:56:16,799
Speaker 5: When you watched him play Helm and Fannin who had

1361
00:56:16,800 --> 00:56:21,160
Speaker 5: the bigger catch radius Fannin, Right, So when I'm talking

1362
00:56:21,160 --> 00:56:22,680
Speaker 5: about a guy who plays big, it's fair.

1363
00:56:22,800 --> 00:56:23,320
Speaker 2: It's Fannin.

1364
00:56:23,440 --> 00:56:25,800
Speaker 4: And I want to back up just the fan and

1365
00:56:26,280 --> 00:56:29,799
Speaker 4: slandered for a hot second, because I don't think when

1366
00:56:29,840 --> 00:56:34,239
Speaker 4: we're talking about COMBA or a Senior Bowl. Yeah, when

1367
00:56:34,239 --> 00:56:36,759
Speaker 4: we didn't see what we wanted to k out of

1368
00:56:36,800 --> 00:56:40,719
Speaker 4: it from the Senior Bowl. He had competitions through All

1369
00:56:40,800 --> 00:56:43,440
Speaker 4: in State and Texas A and m yeh, he had competition.

1370
00:56:43,560 --> 00:56:45,160
Speaker 4: It's both of those teams, and he put up at

1371
00:56:45,200 --> 00:56:47,080
Speaker 4: least one hundred and thirty five yards in a touchdown

1372
00:56:47,080 --> 00:56:49,480
Speaker 4: in both of those games. Like he still had plenty

1373
00:56:49,520 --> 00:56:51,080
Speaker 4: of it. Now they force fed him ahead.

1374
00:56:51,800 --> 00:56:52,600
Speaker 2: Hell they did.

1375
00:56:52,719 --> 00:56:55,440
Speaker 3: I mean they's.

1376
00:56:54,280 --> 00:56:57,799
Speaker 4: Target after target and it was but that was kind

1377
00:56:57,800 --> 00:56:59,120
Speaker 4: of the game plan that they had.

1378
00:56:58,960 --> 00:57:00,000
Speaker 3: At bowling Green.

1379
00:57:00,040 --> 00:57:00,799
Speaker 6: Got him too a bowl game.

1380
00:57:00,840 --> 00:57:03,839
Speaker 4: It did get him to a bowling bowling the bowl game. Yeah,

1381
00:57:03,880 --> 00:57:06,239
Speaker 4: so I think when you look at Fan and both

1382
00:57:06,239 --> 00:57:07,960
Speaker 4: of those guys are really close on my board, they're

1383
00:57:07,960 --> 00:57:10,640
Speaker 4: actually touching tags. I've got a third on Helm and

1384
00:57:10,680 --> 00:57:12,360
Speaker 4: I've got a fourth on fan in but both of.

1385
00:57:12,400 --> 00:57:13,480
Speaker 3: Where do you have a Royo? Then?

1386
00:57:13,480 --> 00:57:14,480
Speaker 6: From Miami?

1387
00:57:14,040 --> 00:57:14,160
Speaker 4: I have.

1388
00:57:14,719 --> 00:57:17,520
Speaker 3: I am a idem too, dude, I have tied him

1389
00:57:17,560 --> 00:57:21,040
Speaker 3: to I love. This is the deal because this dude

1390
00:57:21,040 --> 00:57:25,160
Speaker 3: loves the city of Miami. He's got he wears Miami heat.

1391
00:57:25,600 --> 00:57:31,640
Speaker 3: You know a tight end. This guy to this guy

1392
00:57:31,680 --> 00:57:34,680
Speaker 3: to our right lifts Texas. If you haven't known, it's.

1393
00:57:34,520 --> 00:57:35,600
Speaker 2: Better than Elijah Royo.

1394
00:57:35,960 --> 00:57:39,720
Speaker 5: Oh all right, well here here five years.

1395
00:57:40,680 --> 00:57:42,280
Speaker 2: Sure it'll be getting here.

1396
00:57:42,320 --> 00:57:42,520
Speaker 14: You go.

1397
00:57:42,560 --> 00:57:44,480
Speaker 2: I'll take a Royal better Helm.

1398
00:57:44,800 --> 00:57:49,160
Speaker 3: Thanks, No, you won't. That's Elijah would. I wouldn't. I would.

1399
00:57:49,360 --> 00:57:50,280
Speaker 3: I wouldn't. I would.

1400
00:57:50,320 --> 00:57:52,680
Speaker 5: You're crapping on Donovan Edwards for health and you're gonna say,

1401
00:57:52,960 --> 00:57:53,960
Speaker 5: Roys tight end too.

1402
00:57:54,400 --> 00:57:57,520
Speaker 2: If you stay healthy, give you it's not as bad

1403
00:57:57,560 --> 00:58:00,440
Speaker 2: as come on. He's not in the same.

1404
00:58:01,600 --> 00:58:04,320
Speaker 3: I don't have. All that you do is he was

1405
00:58:04,360 --> 00:58:08,479
Speaker 3: fighting for the Miami runner Damian Martine, which is funny

1406
00:58:08,520 --> 00:58:10,200
Speaker 3: because I was crapping on all the Miami guys last

1407
00:58:10,240 --> 00:58:11,360
Speaker 3: year except for Cam Kitchens.

1408
00:58:11,360 --> 00:58:13,840
Speaker 2: I was really hard on camp Ward.

1409
00:58:14,080 --> 00:58:16,880
Speaker 3: Watch him at quarterback. I'm telling you, is he qv one?

1410
00:58:17,480 --> 00:58:24,000
Speaker 5: Uh yeah, Stunner is Stunner heyn back one?

1411
00:58:24,840 --> 00:58:25,760
Speaker 6: Wide receiver.

1412
00:58:27,640 --> 00:58:27,960
Speaker 13: Brown.

1413
00:58:28,000 --> 00:58:30,320
Speaker 5: If you look back, you loved Matt Lee last year

1414
00:58:30,360 --> 00:58:31,520
Speaker 5: to the center he did.

1415
00:58:31,760 --> 00:58:34,240
Speaker 4: If you look back at which offense was the top

1416
00:58:34,560 --> 00:58:36,720
Speaker 4: in terms of efficiency this past year.

1417
00:58:36,880 --> 00:58:37,160
Speaker 3: Was it?

1418
00:58:37,680 --> 00:58:37,800
Speaker 6: No?

1419
00:58:37,880 --> 00:58:38,240
Speaker 2: It was.

1420
00:58:38,360 --> 00:58:40,000
Speaker 5: I just worried, like one year of production for a

1421
00:58:40,080 --> 00:58:42,320
Speaker 5: royal it scares me a little bit. But he's a

1422
00:58:42,320 --> 00:58:44,080
Speaker 5: first go independence kid, so I'm rooting for him.

1423
00:58:44,080 --> 00:58:46,680
Speaker 6: I forget about that. That is yeah, he would be a

1424
00:58:46,880 --> 00:58:50,160
Speaker 6: thirty day visit or a Dallas excuse me for for

1425
00:58:50,200 --> 00:58:51,040
Speaker 6: this for this team.

1426
00:58:51,080 --> 00:58:52,800
Speaker 3: I have him as tight end too as well. I

1427
00:58:53,160 --> 00:58:56,440
Speaker 3: think he's fantastic. I'm going with it.

1428
00:58:57,400 --> 00:58:59,520
Speaker 2: That tight end board on that side of the table.

1429
00:59:00,640 --> 00:59:03,000
Speaker 3: Get rid of more. Who's the best player? Got left?

1430
00:59:03,080 --> 00:59:03,240
Speaker 11: Oh?

1431
00:59:03,320 --> 00:59:07,560
Speaker 3: I would take this okay, like the fourth round. Like

1432
00:59:07,600 --> 00:59:09,720
Speaker 3: he names all four people and they're all from Miami.

1433
00:59:09,920 --> 00:59:12,200
Speaker 2: It's okay. I'm totally wrong about everything I say to you,

1434
00:59:12,320 --> 00:59:12,880
Speaker 2: so don't worry.

1435
00:59:12,920 --> 00:59:15,240
Speaker 3: I love it. A good show, gentlemen, well done.

1436
00:59:15,400 --> 00:59:19,640
Speaker 4: We'll be back on Thursday, continuing under forty four days.

1437
00:59:19,480 --> 00:59:20,640
Speaker 3: From this NFL Draft.

1438
00:59:20,680 --> 00:59:23,160
Speaker 4: As we continue forward, we're gonna debate some more about

1439
00:59:23,160 --> 00:59:25,640
Speaker 4: some tight ends in the future as well. Can't wait

1440
00:59:25,760 --> 00:59:28,160
Speaker 4: all right for Zach Walchuck Brian brought us Tommy Yarris,

1441
00:59:28,240 --> 00:59:30,200
Speaker 4: Nick Carris, Chris Beam in the back of Kyle Yeoman

1442
00:59:30,240 --> 00:59:31,840
Speaker 4: saying so long from the draft show.

1443
00:59:31,840 --> 00:59:32,840
Speaker 3: We'll see you on Thursday.

1444
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