1 00:00:07,266 --> 00:00:09,706 Speaker 1: The Season with Peter Schrager is a production of the 2 00:00:09,786 --> 00:00:13,866 Speaker 1: NFL in partnership with iHeartRadio. 3 00:00:24,066 --> 00:00:27,466 Speaker 2: What's Up, everybody, Welcome to the Season with Peter Schreger. 4 00:00:27,506 --> 00:00:31,706 Speaker 2: This is the Combine Week episode, an annual tradition, and 5 00:00:31,746 --> 00:00:36,066 Speaker 2: as we record this, it is Thursday morning of Combine Week. 6 00:00:36,346 --> 00:00:38,666 Speaker 2: Let me give you a quick schedule of events. Thursday 7 00:00:38,706 --> 00:00:42,866 Speaker 2: afternoon likely when this thing posts, the defensive lineman and 8 00:00:43,506 --> 00:00:45,946 Speaker 2: the linebackers are all going to be doing their workouts 9 00:00:45,986 --> 00:00:49,666 Speaker 2: in Indianapolis. And on Friday, Friday night, we get our 10 00:00:49,666 --> 00:00:52,386 Speaker 2: defensive backs and our tight ends doing their drills and 11 00:00:52,426 --> 00:00:55,386 Speaker 2: their forties. And then Saturday is the big one. Saturday 12 00:00:55,426 --> 00:00:58,066 Speaker 2: is when you get your running backs, your wide receivers, 13 00:00:58,186 --> 00:01:01,706 Speaker 2: and then the primetime event will be the quarterbacks throwing 14 00:01:01,786 --> 00:01:04,746 Speaker 2: in the late afternoon early evening. And then on Sunday 15 00:01:04,746 --> 00:01:08,906 Speaker 2: we wrap it up with offensive linemen. So you have Thursday, Friday, Saturday, Sunday. 16 00:01:08,906 --> 00:01:12,266 Speaker 2: That is the schedule. I am currently in New York 17 00:01:12,386 --> 00:01:16,146 Speaker 2: City right now, and I'm with Jason English and Aaron 18 00:01:16,226 --> 00:01:20,946 Speaker 2: wan Kaufman are two fine producers and executives from iHeartRadio 19 00:01:20,986 --> 00:01:24,226 Speaker 2: or in New York City. But my schedule has been crazy. 20 00:01:24,306 --> 00:01:28,786 Speaker 2: So I flew to Indianapolis Monday, was there for Tuesday 21 00:01:28,786 --> 00:01:32,666 Speaker 2: Morning Good Morning Football, Wednesday Morning Good Morning Football, flew 22 00:01:32,706 --> 00:01:36,586 Speaker 2: back last night, got back here. I'm doing Good Morning 23 00:01:36,586 --> 00:01:40,746 Speaker 2: Football in studio Thursday, which was just now, and Friday 24 00:01:40,826 --> 00:01:44,426 Speaker 2: to promote and to preview the combine. We're talking in 25 00:01:44,466 --> 00:01:46,986 Speaker 2: depth analysis of all the different position groups. Who you 26 00:01:46,986 --> 00:01:50,546 Speaker 2: should be looking for. Me talking about Rooke Aroo, the 27 00:01:50,626 --> 00:01:52,586 Speaker 2: Clemson defensive tackle who I think is going to light 28 00:01:52,666 --> 00:01:55,106 Speaker 2: up the combine in a few hours. And on Friday's show, 29 00:01:55,106 --> 00:01:57,746 Speaker 2: we'll be previewing all the quarterbacks, all the wide receivers, 30 00:01:57,786 --> 00:02:00,186 Speaker 2: all the running backs, and all the offensive linemen. Specifically 31 00:02:01,226 --> 00:02:03,506 Speaker 2: the guys that I want to see Joe Alt, the 32 00:02:03,506 --> 00:02:06,306 Speaker 2: big offensive tackle for the Notre Dame fight, and Irish 33 00:02:06,706 --> 00:02:09,826 Speaker 2: and then Fuaga out of Oregon State, who I'm told 34 00:02:10,266 --> 00:02:13,906 Speaker 2: is already skyrocketing up boards based on his interviews. He's 35 00:02:13,906 --> 00:02:16,666 Speaker 2: been awesome in interviews. All right, So I'll be there 36 00:02:16,706 --> 00:02:19,226 Speaker 2: in Indianapolis because I'm flying out tomorrow. After the show, 37 00:02:19,266 --> 00:02:23,226 Speaker 2: I will be on the broadcast as a viewer and listener. 38 00:02:23,306 --> 00:02:25,906 Speaker 2: Tip to you if you put on NFL Network anytime 39 00:02:25,946 --> 00:02:28,906 Speaker 2: after like three pm We're just going to be wall 40 00:02:28,946 --> 00:02:34,786 Speaker 2: to wall drills, analysis stories. My role, I'll be chiming 41 00:02:34,826 --> 00:02:36,666 Speaker 2: in with what gms are telling me about these prospects. 42 00:02:36,706 --> 00:02:39,306 Speaker 2: I've got a notebook full of all their names and 43 00:02:39,626 --> 00:02:41,186 Speaker 2: all the nuggets that I have on each one of 44 00:02:41,226 --> 00:02:43,826 Speaker 2: these guys, and also how they're interviewing and what they're 45 00:02:43,826 --> 00:02:46,666 Speaker 2: doing in the interview rooms. But my work is kind 46 00:02:46,666 --> 00:02:49,426 Speaker 2: of already done because I had a wild forty eight 47 00:02:49,426 --> 00:02:51,786 Speaker 2: hours there. Guys. Can I go through my schedule? Eric, 48 00:02:52,186 --> 00:02:54,506 Speaker 2: have you been to the combine before. I've never been 49 00:02:54,546 --> 00:02:56,466 Speaker 2: to the compa, So I kind of laid it out 50 00:02:56,506 --> 00:02:58,506 Speaker 2: in my monologue last week, but I'll do it again. 51 00:02:59,066 --> 00:03:02,426 Speaker 2: The drills are like the shiny object that everyone looks 52 00:03:02,466 --> 00:03:06,666 Speaker 2: at because it's obviously on NFL Network and it's broadcast, 53 00:03:06,666 --> 00:03:08,986 Speaker 2: and we're gonna be looking back at forty times for 54 00:03:09,026 --> 00:03:11,626 Speaker 2: the next three three weeks, you know, right up until 55 00:03:11,626 --> 00:03:17,226 Speaker 2: free agency and draft. But the real work is done Monday, Tuesday, 56 00:03:17,506 --> 00:03:23,426 Speaker 2: Wednesday before the drills because so many coaches, GMS, team presidents, 57 00:03:23,986 --> 00:03:29,706 Speaker 2: team pr staffs, agents, and fellow media personalities all descend 58 00:03:29,786 --> 00:03:34,226 Speaker 2: upon Indianapolis. And I'd say there's four main restaurants that 59 00:03:34,306 --> 00:03:37,306 Speaker 2: everybody goes to at night. Those restaurants are Saint Almos, 60 00:03:37,306 --> 00:03:39,386 Speaker 2: which is the classic with the horse radish that'll drive 61 00:03:39,426 --> 00:03:42,906 Speaker 2: you nuts, Harry and Izzy's, which is right next door 62 00:03:42,946 --> 00:03:46,186 Speaker 2: to Saint Elmos. So geographically, if you want to do both, 63 00:03:46,426 --> 00:03:49,226 Speaker 2: you could pop into Saint Almos, walk down what feels 64 00:03:49,226 --> 00:03:52,106 Speaker 2: to be like the skinniest little hallway, which is where 65 00:03:52,346 --> 00:03:55,346 Speaker 2: their hostess stand is, and then they lead you into 66 00:03:55,306 --> 00:03:57,626 Speaker 2: all these different dining rooms. Harry and Iss is right 67 00:03:57,626 --> 00:04:01,026 Speaker 2: next to that. They also have that insane horse radish. 68 00:04:01,066 --> 00:04:03,546 Speaker 2: I wonder what the deal is because they have the 69 00:04:03,546 --> 00:04:05,506 Speaker 2: same horse ratish, but it feels like they're like an 70 00:04:05,506 --> 00:04:08,106 Speaker 2: alf branch of Sainte feels like the guy from Saint 71 00:04:08,146 --> 00:04:10,906 Speaker 2: Elmo's left and joined and started this thing because their 72 00:04:10,946 --> 00:04:14,666 Speaker 2: menu also has pizza and has chicken and has like 73 00:04:14,786 --> 00:04:18,066 Speaker 2: fish and they have an insane cocktail you know, shrimp 74 00:04:18,226 --> 00:04:19,906 Speaker 2: deal over there too. So those are those two those 75 00:04:19,946 --> 00:04:22,946 Speaker 2: are in the same little block. Then you've got this 76 00:04:23,026 --> 00:04:25,866 Speaker 2: new one named Tony's, which is kind of like an 77 00:04:25,946 --> 00:04:28,546 Speaker 2: upscale like more of like a oh, I don't know, 78 00:04:28,586 --> 00:04:30,946 Speaker 2: like a Delfrisco's. Feel like it's like a little bit 79 00:04:30,986 --> 00:04:34,506 Speaker 2: more modern it's not an old school steakhouse. And there's 80 00:04:34,546 --> 00:04:36,586 Speaker 2: a whole group of guys that go over there and 81 00:04:36,626 --> 00:04:38,426 Speaker 2: gals that go there, and that's any night you can 82 00:04:38,466 --> 00:04:40,826 Speaker 2: go to Tony's and you can see people, all right. 83 00:04:41,266 --> 00:04:45,026 Speaker 2: And then the fourth one is Prime forty seven. Prime 84 00:04:45,106 --> 00:04:47,906 Speaker 2: forty seven is where you end the night. Prime forty 85 00:04:47,946 --> 00:04:50,666 Speaker 2: seven is a steakhouse in name, but I have to 86 00:04:50,666 --> 00:04:53,186 Speaker 2: think they're pulling in hundreds of thousands of dollars each 87 00:04:53,266 --> 00:04:56,386 Speaker 2: night after ten o'clock because that bar is everyone. That 88 00:04:56,466 --> 00:04:59,346 Speaker 2: is where everyone descends upon. Now, in the corner table 89 00:04:59,546 --> 00:05:03,746 Speaker 2: at Prime forty seven, he is a guy named Bob Lamont. 90 00:05:03,786 --> 00:05:06,146 Speaker 2: Bab Lamont is seventy nine years old. He is an 91 00:05:06,186 --> 00:05:09,346 Speaker 2: eight agent to other coaches. He's Andy Reid's agent. He 92 00:05:09,426 --> 00:05:13,186 Speaker 2: was Mike holmgren's agent. He's Sean mcvay's agent. He's Zach 93 00:05:13,226 --> 00:05:17,706 Speaker 2: Taylor's agent. He's Howie Rosman's agent. He's the agent for 94 00:05:17,786 --> 00:05:20,626 Speaker 2: most of these guys and has been doing it for years. 95 00:05:20,906 --> 00:05:23,466 Speaker 2: And he just has what seems to be an open 96 00:05:23,546 --> 00:05:25,666 Speaker 2: tab for any of his friends or any of his 97 00:05:25,746 --> 00:05:28,386 Speaker 2: clients to come by, kiss the ring, say hello, and 98 00:05:28,466 --> 00:05:31,866 Speaker 2: it becomes this incredible meeting spot at the end of 99 00:05:31,906 --> 00:05:34,026 Speaker 2: the night where everyone goes. It kind of filters in 100 00:05:34,226 --> 00:05:36,146 Speaker 2: to just say hello to Bob, but to also maybe 101 00:05:36,186 --> 00:05:39,106 Speaker 2: get a free vodka soda if you want. With great regret, 102 00:05:39,186 --> 00:05:41,506 Speaker 2: I did not see bab Lamont this year. Didn't make 103 00:05:41,546 --> 00:05:44,586 Speaker 2: it there. I was in bed on Tuesday at like 104 00:05:44,666 --> 00:05:46,706 Speaker 2: nine point thirty. He and I did texting all this stuff. 105 00:05:46,706 --> 00:05:48,906 Speaker 2: Didn't see him, didn't go to his table. However, I 106 00:05:48,946 --> 00:05:51,386 Speaker 2: did pop into Prime forty seven and it was alive 107 00:05:51,586 --> 00:05:54,026 Speaker 2: as always. But let me give you my little schedule 108 00:05:54,186 --> 00:05:56,146 Speaker 2: and what I banged out while I was in there. 109 00:05:56,506 --> 00:05:59,826 Speaker 2: Landed the plane at four point thirty on Monday, and 110 00:05:59,866 --> 00:06:03,906 Speaker 2: we had a five o'clock reservation at Saint Elmo's and 111 00:06:03,946 --> 00:06:08,666 Speaker 2: that was with here's the table, Andy Reid, Steve Spagnolo, 112 00:06:10,146 --> 00:06:13,746 Speaker 2: Brett Veach, GM of the Chiefs, and then their entire 113 00:06:13,786 --> 00:06:17,426 Speaker 2: front office staff, and Ted Cruz, who is their their 114 00:06:17,546 --> 00:06:22,666 Speaker 2: public relations in Persario. I was sitting in between Spags 115 00:06:22,706 --> 00:06:24,666 Speaker 2: and Andy. They left me a seat open, which was 116 00:06:24,666 --> 00:06:29,466 Speaker 2: the ultimate honor. And across from Veach, two hour dinner awesome. 117 00:06:29,706 --> 00:06:32,506 Speaker 2: Andy Reid, does he order the cheeseburger. There's no cheeseburger. 118 00:06:32,546 --> 00:06:35,026 Speaker 2: On the menu at say, and almost goes with a 119 00:06:35,186 --> 00:06:38,826 Speaker 2: porterhouse and they say green beans or fries. Andy Reid says, 120 00:06:39,226 --> 00:06:41,506 Speaker 2: I'll splurge. We'll go for the fries. I was not 121 00:06:41,666 --> 00:06:47,386 Speaker 2: surprised by that decision. Watching Andy eat that cocktail shrimp 122 00:06:47,466 --> 00:06:50,146 Speaker 2: with the horseradish and make like a wincing face. I 123 00:06:50,186 --> 00:06:52,946 Speaker 2: think that's like an image I'll never never lose and 124 00:06:52,986 --> 00:06:56,906 Speaker 2: I'll always have in my head. Andy's so great. He 125 00:06:57,026 --> 00:06:58,946 Speaker 2: was asking about me and my family. He's asking about 126 00:06:58,986 --> 00:07:01,066 Speaker 2: Good morning football. He's talking about what time you got 127 00:07:01,186 --> 00:07:02,386 Speaker 2: to wake up? All right, and you live in New 128 00:07:02,466 --> 00:07:04,146 Speaker 2: York City and I was. And then we went into 129 00:07:04,186 --> 00:07:07,546 Speaker 2: like the details, like we had a really really in 130 00:07:07,586 --> 00:07:10,266 Speaker 2: depth conversation and a heart to heart really with Spags 131 00:07:10,306 --> 00:07:13,426 Speaker 2: and Andy. And we used a podcast from last week 132 00:07:13,466 --> 00:07:15,826 Speaker 2: as kind of a jumping off point, and I asked 133 00:07:15,826 --> 00:07:18,866 Speaker 2: about leadership and what they see in Patrick and Andy 134 00:07:18,906 --> 00:07:23,986 Speaker 2: was talking about, you know, the drafting of Mahomes. Everyone 135 00:07:24,066 --> 00:07:25,786 Speaker 2: now you know it is what it is. He's like, 136 00:07:25,826 --> 00:07:27,586 Speaker 2: but at the time that was such a delicate situation. 137 00:07:27,666 --> 00:07:30,706 Speaker 2: John Dorsey was a GM They had just paid Alex Smith, 138 00:07:31,466 --> 00:07:33,826 Speaker 2: and he says Patrick came in with the right attitude 139 00:07:33,866 --> 00:07:35,946 Speaker 2: of I'm not looking to usurpu, I'm not looking to 140 00:07:35,986 --> 00:07:37,906 Speaker 2: take you over, but also Alex Smith at the right 141 00:07:37,946 --> 00:07:40,306 Speaker 2: attitude of yeah, of course I could be threatened, and 142 00:07:40,386 --> 00:07:42,946 Speaker 2: of course this could be a really uncomfortable situation. When 143 00:07:42,986 --> 00:07:46,066 Speaker 2: Alex Smith say what you want about he did with Kaepernick, 144 00:07:46,066 --> 00:07:48,106 Speaker 2: and he did it with him, took him right under 145 00:07:48,146 --> 00:07:50,106 Speaker 2: his wing and showed him everything he possibly could and 146 00:07:50,146 --> 00:07:53,386 Speaker 2: paid it forward. And he says that was the atmosphere 147 00:07:53,426 --> 00:07:56,386 Speaker 2: that we want in Kansas City to which led to 148 00:07:57,666 --> 00:08:00,466 Speaker 2: drafting all of these young players and having them succeed. 149 00:08:00,506 --> 00:08:02,706 Speaker 2: I thought what Spag said last week on this podcast 150 00:08:02,826 --> 00:08:04,826 Speaker 2: was so cool when he was talking about how he 151 00:08:04,826 --> 00:08:07,946 Speaker 2: had so much trust in third year linebacker Nick Bolton, 152 00:08:08,026 --> 00:08:11,386 Speaker 2: and it was that trust and that implicit like, hey, 153 00:08:11,426 --> 00:08:13,426 Speaker 2: if Bolton says I'm all in and everyone else is 154 00:08:13,466 --> 00:08:15,066 Speaker 2: gonna be all in, we're gonna be in the right page. 155 00:08:15,066 --> 00:08:17,426 Speaker 2: And then that third and four blitz McDuffie goes and 156 00:08:17,466 --> 00:08:20,306 Speaker 2: it's becoss Bolton nodded his head. A lot of that 157 00:08:20,346 --> 00:08:22,386 Speaker 2: stuff was there, and then the conversation took this like 158 00:08:22,826 --> 00:08:25,746 Speaker 2: really interesting turn, which is what I think the beauty 159 00:08:25,746 --> 00:08:29,106 Speaker 2: of the combine is Brett Vieach starts talking about how 160 00:08:29,146 --> 00:08:32,186 Speaker 2: he's really really upset that he's not gonna be able 161 00:08:32,226 --> 00:08:35,666 Speaker 2: to get to the Butler Saint John's game, which is 162 00:08:35,666 --> 00:08:38,186 Speaker 2: in Indianapolis, and the same butler Saint John's who gives 163 00:08:38,266 --> 00:08:41,706 Speaker 2: us butler Verus Saint John's. And he's like, have always 164 00:08:41,706 --> 00:08:44,346 Speaker 2: wanted to meet Patino, And so then we start talking 165 00:08:44,346 --> 00:08:46,186 Speaker 2: about Patino, and then it gets into the thing and 166 00:08:46,266 --> 00:08:48,866 Speaker 2: like Andy's like, well, you know, Patino had Billy Donovan 167 00:08:48,906 --> 00:08:50,426 Speaker 2: back at Providence, and I'm like, yeah, I know that. 168 00:08:50,506 --> 00:08:52,346 Speaker 2: And then I'm like, then he goes to Kentucky, and 169 00:08:52,466 --> 00:08:55,626 Speaker 2: I start talking about Patino's Kentucky teams and and and 170 00:08:55,786 --> 00:08:58,946 Speaker 2: having Jamal Nashburn and Derek Phelps in the early ones 171 00:08:58,986 --> 00:09:01,626 Speaker 2: and Jamel Martinez and then I they're like, Schreger, you 172 00:09:01,666 --> 00:09:04,186 Speaker 2: know way too much about the nineties Kentucky Wildcats, And 173 00:09:04,186 --> 00:09:06,546 Speaker 2: I'm like, wholl when you're talking about Tony Dell and 174 00:09:06,586 --> 00:09:10,346 Speaker 2: you're talking about you know, Ron Mercer and my favorite player, 175 00:09:10,386 --> 00:09:13,666 Speaker 2: Antoine Walker doing the shimmy, and then they're talking about 176 00:09:13,666 --> 00:09:17,426 Speaker 2: how you know he his story obviously you know he 177 00:09:17,506 --> 00:09:20,426 Speaker 2: wins the championship in Kentucky wins a championship at Louisville, 178 00:09:20,706 --> 00:09:22,546 Speaker 2: and then his whole career is over based on what 179 00:09:22,586 --> 00:09:24,386 Speaker 2: happens in that Applebee's and I don't need to go 180 00:09:24,426 --> 00:09:28,146 Speaker 2: through a whole detail. But then he's coaching overseas and 181 00:09:28,186 --> 00:09:30,906 Speaker 2: he's coaching at IONA, and now he's finally back at 182 00:09:30,906 --> 00:09:33,466 Speaker 2: Saint John's and in the last ten days, Rick Patina 183 00:09:33,506 --> 00:09:36,186 Speaker 2: and like beaches laughing. He's like, you know, Rick Patino, 184 00:09:36,386 --> 00:09:39,386 Speaker 2: choose out the Saint John's players, choose out the program 185 00:09:39,466 --> 00:09:41,906 Speaker 2: basically says these guys aren't. And then they rattled off 186 00:09:41,986 --> 00:09:44,586 Speaker 2: two big victories. They beat Craton, which is a ranked team, 187 00:09:44,586 --> 00:09:47,786 Speaker 2: and they blew out Georgetown. And I'm talking and Andy 188 00:09:47,866 --> 00:09:49,386 Speaker 2: Reid's like, you know, that's a real rule the dice. 189 00:09:49,426 --> 00:09:50,986 Speaker 2: You can lose your whole locker room. He's like, what 190 00:09:51,586 --> 00:09:53,986 Speaker 2: a that's at a crossroads of a season. That's a 191 00:09:54,026 --> 00:09:56,786 Speaker 2: coach deliberately doing that. And I'm like, wow, to see 192 00:09:56,826 --> 00:10:01,386 Speaker 2: another legendary coach talk about another legendary coach, and you 193 00:10:01,466 --> 00:10:04,506 Speaker 2: know that decision to publicly get to a podium and 194 00:10:04,666 --> 00:10:07,906 Speaker 2: to trash his players, that's not him just doing that 195 00:10:08,226 --> 00:10:10,906 Speaker 2: willy nilly. There's a design there and that is Andy 196 00:10:10,946 --> 00:10:14,426 Speaker 2: Reid respecting Rick Patinos. I don't know why would have 197 00:10:14,466 --> 00:10:17,426 Speaker 2: done it, but that's what he did. We talked about 198 00:10:17,426 --> 00:10:20,306 Speaker 2: the Taylor Swift situation. We talked about Travis Kelcey. We 199 00:10:20,386 --> 00:10:24,226 Speaker 2: talked about a lot and gosh, the love that that 200 00:10:24,386 --> 00:10:26,506 Speaker 2: these guys have for each other and the pride that 201 00:10:26,546 --> 00:10:29,346 Speaker 2: they have for those players. It was really cool. And 202 00:10:29,466 --> 00:10:31,386 Speaker 2: at the end of the meal, Brett Beach says, let 203 00:10:31,426 --> 00:10:34,866 Speaker 2: me take a photo of U spags and read. I said, Okay, 204 00:10:35,666 --> 00:10:38,346 Speaker 2: takes a photo. I look great. I'm sucking in my gut, 205 00:10:39,186 --> 00:10:42,826 Speaker 2: sucking in so hard. Andy looks good. I take the photo, 206 00:10:43,506 --> 00:10:46,866 Speaker 2: and over the weekend I made a conscious decision. I said, 207 00:10:46,906 --> 00:10:49,186 Speaker 2: I'm going to start in my Instagram account. I've never 208 00:10:49,226 --> 00:10:53,146 Speaker 2: been on Instagram before. Aaron, you're probably in college at Instagram, right. 209 00:10:53,786 --> 00:11:00,346 Speaker 3: I think I started it maybe my senior year of college. Yeah, 210 00:11:00,346 --> 00:11:02,866 Speaker 3: And I remember the very first photo I had is 211 00:11:02,986 --> 00:11:05,906 Speaker 3: like early on Instagram, like had all the filters and 212 00:11:05,986 --> 00:11:09,146 Speaker 3: everything totally different, and it was like, yeah, but I 213 00:11:09,346 --> 00:11:10,986 Speaker 3: do know you got to tell me what the photo 214 00:11:11,186 --> 00:11:14,386 Speaker 3: was was a photo of like a window sill. It 215 00:11:14,546 --> 00:11:16,746 Speaker 3: was like, you know, oh, I'm going to be artsy 216 00:11:16,866 --> 00:11:19,746 Speaker 3: at the beginning of this, not like, here's the photo 217 00:11:19,866 --> 00:11:23,426 Speaker 3: of me at this thing. It was like all aesthetics, yeah, 218 00:11:23,786 --> 00:11:25,706 Speaker 3: and the cool filters, yeah yeah, yeah. Yeah. 219 00:11:25,946 --> 00:11:29,786 Speaker 2: So I've known about Instagram for many years. I've heard 220 00:11:29,786 --> 00:11:34,746 Speaker 2: about this website slash app. Super Bowl ended and my 221 00:11:34,826 --> 00:11:37,626 Speaker 2: wife and I were talking and she's like, how cool 222 00:11:37,666 --> 00:11:40,266 Speaker 2: are you that you're You're too cool for this. I'm like, 223 00:11:40,706 --> 00:11:42,786 Speaker 2: and she's like, you don't have to get on it. However, 224 00:11:43,466 --> 00:11:45,866 Speaker 2: you do have really cool experiences, and I think that 225 00:11:46,106 --> 00:11:48,106 Speaker 2: it could be cool to share some of those if 226 00:11:48,146 --> 00:11:51,266 Speaker 2: you wanted. And I'm like, all right, I see colleagues 227 00:11:51,306 --> 00:11:55,306 Speaker 2: in our industry and they're posting things sixteen times in 228 00:11:55,386 --> 00:11:58,186 Speaker 2: a day. I can't do that. I don't have the 229 00:11:58,226 --> 00:12:00,226 Speaker 2: stomach for it. It feels like a full time job. 230 00:12:00,746 --> 00:12:03,146 Speaker 2: But I said, okay, I'll start the Instagram. I went 231 00:12:03,226 --> 00:12:06,346 Speaker 2: with p Schreger because there's another guy named Peter Schreger 232 00:12:06,466 --> 00:12:09,346 Speaker 2: who's who's got like a thousand followers, and I think 233 00:12:09,386 --> 00:12:12,026 Speaker 2: they probably he hasn't posted it. They're all looking for me, 234 00:12:13,946 --> 00:12:17,706 Speaker 2: p Schrager. I'm on Instagram now and Aaron I have 235 00:12:17,906 --> 00:12:23,066 Speaker 2: one post. Okay, it's a picture of me reading spags 236 00:12:23,506 --> 00:12:28,746 Speaker 2: and it says Happy Combine Week, and it's got seventeen 237 00:12:28,986 --> 00:12:32,626 Speaker 2: thousand likes, and I've already picked up three thousand followers 238 00:12:32,826 --> 00:12:36,026 Speaker 2: on Instagram, so already I've got the bug. But the 239 00:12:36,106 --> 00:12:39,146 Speaker 2: question is, and I ask you this, do I put 240 00:12:39,226 --> 00:12:41,346 Speaker 2: up another picture? Do I just kind of stand on 241 00:12:41,466 --> 00:12:43,626 Speaker 2: that one? Or and I'm not gonna I don't plan 242 00:12:43,706 --> 00:12:46,626 Speaker 2: on doing live action stories of here are my thoughts 243 00:12:46,666 --> 00:12:48,306 Speaker 2: on tight ends on day three of the draft, Like 244 00:12:48,466 --> 00:12:51,026 Speaker 2: I ain't happening. I already worked for a living, got 245 00:12:51,066 --> 00:12:54,946 Speaker 2: worked for meta. I'm not looking for the followers. I don't. 246 00:12:55,026 --> 00:12:57,066 Speaker 2: I'm never gonna chase. I'm never gonna catch up. So 247 00:12:57,426 --> 00:13:00,226 Speaker 2: at this point it's just quality over quantity. The question is, 248 00:13:00,706 --> 00:13:03,666 Speaker 2: I have several other great photos from the combine. Would 249 00:13:03,706 --> 00:13:05,506 Speaker 2: you post another? Would you let that one kind of 250 00:13:05,546 --> 00:13:09,826 Speaker 2: be the flex and say just one read spags me. 251 00:13:11,026 --> 00:13:13,066 Speaker 3: That's what we're staying. You posted that one one day 252 00:13:13,826 --> 00:13:16,426 Speaker 3: Monday night. Okay, I'm gonna I'm gonna preface this with 253 00:13:16,666 --> 00:13:20,746 Speaker 3: I am horrible at Instagram. The last photo I posted 254 00:13:21,106 --> 00:13:25,466 Speaker 3: to the like the grid is actually us at the 255 00:13:25,626 --> 00:13:31,986 Speaker 3: Draftansas City. Stuff I haven't posted like many stories, stories 256 00:13:32,106 --> 00:13:34,666 Speaker 3: is the big thing. I also am just bad at Instagram, 257 00:13:34,786 --> 00:13:39,146 Speaker 3: but I think at this point, it's Thursday, that's your 258 00:13:39,826 --> 00:13:42,426 Speaker 3: post from Monday is not organically going to come up 259 00:13:42,506 --> 00:13:45,906 Speaker 3: for god it, you got it. You're gonna be doing 260 00:13:46,746 --> 00:13:49,026 Speaker 3: and you know, especially if you do like you're you're 261 00:13:49,106 --> 00:13:52,266 Speaker 3: walking the streets of Brooklyn, you're film. So you can 262 00:13:52,386 --> 00:13:55,466 Speaker 3: just post it on Instagram. There's nothing, nothing says it 263 00:13:55,546 --> 00:13:57,746 Speaker 3: has to be platform specific. 264 00:13:57,786 --> 00:14:01,586 Speaker 2: I heard a cool ter. I met a guy. I'll 265 00:14:01,586 --> 00:14:04,226 Speaker 2: tell you who I met. So I went for pizza 266 00:14:04,386 --> 00:14:07,466 Speaker 2: last week at a place called Industry in New York City. 267 00:14:07,746 --> 00:14:11,906 Speaker 2: Have you been? Turns out the owner, guy named Adam Saper, 268 00:14:12,786 --> 00:14:14,986 Speaker 2: is a fan of Good Morning Football, fan of football. 269 00:14:15,066 --> 00:14:18,106 Speaker 2: We start talking, having a conversation, and the conversation is 270 00:14:18,106 --> 00:14:19,746 Speaker 2: going to a million different places, and he put it 271 00:14:19,826 --> 00:14:21,626 Speaker 2: so beautifully. He's like, you know what I call that? 272 00:14:21,946 --> 00:14:24,506 Speaker 2: I call that just that's a tab open. You can 273 00:14:24,546 --> 00:14:26,506 Speaker 2: come back. Let's go back to that tab. Let's go 274 00:14:26,586 --> 00:14:28,466 Speaker 2: back to that tab. I can't live with all these 275 00:14:28,506 --> 00:14:30,826 Speaker 2: social media things with too many tabs open in my head. 276 00:14:30,906 --> 00:14:33,666 Speaker 2: So the thought of doing videos for Twitter but then 277 00:14:33,706 --> 00:14:36,706 Speaker 2: also being on Instagram, and then hearing about team. You know, 278 00:14:37,386 --> 00:14:41,346 Speaker 2: hashtag this hashtag. That's what I might keep it very simple. 279 00:14:41,466 --> 00:14:43,546 Speaker 2: I might do one picture every week, might do one 280 00:14:43,586 --> 00:14:45,666 Speaker 2: picture every month. I just think I want to give 281 00:14:45,706 --> 00:14:47,546 Speaker 2: respect to those guys. So say I take a picture 282 00:14:47,586 --> 00:14:50,026 Speaker 2: of Zach Taylor and me. Does that have the same juice? 283 00:14:50,146 --> 00:14:52,466 Speaker 2: Probably not? Andy Reid and'spags. That's pretty baller. 284 00:14:52,746 --> 00:14:56,426 Speaker 3: Yeah, but you also, you know, if you were very 285 00:14:56,586 --> 00:15:00,106 Speaker 3: pigular and curated it so like your Instagram was just 286 00:15:00,466 --> 00:15:02,266 Speaker 3: you at restaurants or something. I mean, like, I don't know, 287 00:15:02,346 --> 00:15:02,666 Speaker 3: there are. 288 00:15:02,586 --> 00:15:04,986 Speaker 2: Things like that, Yes, me and coaches at dinner day yeah, 289 00:15:05,666 --> 00:15:08,506 Speaker 2: or you It's like a TV show. It sounds like 290 00:15:08,546 --> 00:15:13,426 Speaker 2: a podcast. The podcast. This is season three of the 291 00:15:13,466 --> 00:15:17,826 Speaker 2: season Peter at dinner with coaches, which is a good segue. 292 00:15:17,946 --> 00:15:20,386 Speaker 2: So that was Monday night. But then on Monday night, 293 00:15:20,386 --> 00:15:22,266 Speaker 2: and I don't again, I'm probably betraying the trust of 294 00:15:22,426 --> 00:15:24,226 Speaker 2: all of these men who have no idea that I'm 295 00:15:24,226 --> 00:15:26,386 Speaker 2: sharing all these details because none of this is for 296 00:15:26,466 --> 00:15:29,066 Speaker 2: TV and none of this is for but I feel 297 00:15:29,066 --> 00:15:30,506 Speaker 2: like if you listen to the season, you're into this 298 00:15:30,706 --> 00:15:35,626 Speaker 2: this kind of stuff. John Spanos, who is the son 299 00:15:35,706 --> 00:15:38,186 Speaker 2: of Dean Spanos and works in the front office and 300 00:15:38,186 --> 00:15:40,706 Speaker 2: also is one of the owners of the LA Chargers. 301 00:15:41,306 --> 00:15:42,706 Speaker 2: Texts me and says, are we going to see each 302 00:15:42,706 --> 00:15:45,626 Speaker 2: other this week? Because I love that guy and he's 303 00:15:45,666 --> 00:15:47,426 Speaker 2: a nice dude, and he's like, you see each other. 304 00:15:47,506 --> 00:15:50,226 Speaker 2: So I'm like, well, I'm actually at dinner right now 305 00:15:50,266 --> 00:15:52,866 Speaker 2: with your art rival chiefs. And he goes come by, 306 00:15:53,186 --> 00:15:56,026 Speaker 2: say hello, I'm at Harry and Issy's, which is right 307 00:15:56,106 --> 00:15:58,746 Speaker 2: next door. So I figure I don't have time because 308 00:15:58,786 --> 00:16:00,506 Speaker 2: morely there for two days, I don't have time to 309 00:16:00,586 --> 00:16:02,626 Speaker 2: do like a meal with John. I don't have time 310 00:16:02,706 --> 00:16:04,706 Speaker 2: to really get a coffee with John. But I do 311 00:16:04,866 --> 00:16:07,586 Speaker 2: want to see John. So I'll stop in and I'll 312 00:16:07,746 --> 00:16:09,746 Speaker 2: say hello, and maybe I'll drink an iced tea because 313 00:16:09,746 --> 00:16:10,986 Speaker 2: I gotta be fresh because I got the show in 314 00:16:11,026 --> 00:16:13,626 Speaker 2: the morning. I come by, I get there at the 315 00:16:13,706 --> 00:16:16,586 Speaker 2: table is John, and then this guy Ed maguire used 316 00:16:16,586 --> 00:16:17,986 Speaker 2: to work for the league and is now in the 317 00:16:18,066 --> 00:16:22,266 Speaker 2: front office of the Chargers, and some other folks with 318 00:16:22,306 --> 00:16:25,946 Speaker 2: the charges of organization start talking. I started asking about Harball. 319 00:16:25,986 --> 00:16:28,546 Speaker 2: They're giving me Harball stories. I started asking, all right, 320 00:16:28,546 --> 00:16:29,866 Speaker 2: well what do you got? And they're giving me all 321 00:16:29,906 --> 00:16:32,586 Speaker 2: the details about hiring. I checked my watch, it's two 322 00:16:32,626 --> 00:16:35,626 Speaker 2: hours later. I was just in and of course the 323 00:16:35,826 --> 00:16:36,586 Speaker 2: fat boy in me. 324 00:16:36,666 --> 00:16:37,146 Speaker 3: What did I do? 325 00:16:37,666 --> 00:16:42,146 Speaker 2: I ordered a second dinner, second dinner, second dinner, but 326 00:16:42,266 --> 00:16:43,626 Speaker 2: this one was a little lighter. I had a French 327 00:16:43,626 --> 00:16:49,306 Speaker 2: onion soup after a steak, dude, And then they're like, well, 328 00:16:49,346 --> 00:16:51,306 Speaker 2: that'd be it. I looked at the waitress and I 329 00:16:51,346 --> 00:16:53,666 Speaker 2: looked at her and she could tell him like meat sweats. 330 00:16:53,746 --> 00:16:57,666 Speaker 2: I'm just but I also have a pizza. I ordered 331 00:16:57,706 --> 00:16:58,826 Speaker 2: a pizza for myself. 332 00:16:59,146 --> 00:17:01,346 Speaker 3: This is like the Steinfeld episode where he's like, you 333 00:17:01,466 --> 00:17:02,826 Speaker 3: ordered a soup. That's about a dinner. 334 00:17:02,906 --> 00:17:06,786 Speaker 2: That's you said you have super you owe me a souper, Jerry. 335 00:17:07,666 --> 00:17:10,226 Speaker 2: I did the opposite of ordering a soup. I ordered everything. 336 00:17:11,266 --> 00:17:12,746 Speaker 2: And then they're like, do you want ice cream? Do 337 00:17:12,786 --> 00:17:15,466 Speaker 2: you want dessert? I'm like thinking about it. I'm like no. 338 00:17:15,706 --> 00:17:19,906 Speaker 2: But in four hour span, was with those guys from 339 00:17:19,946 --> 00:17:23,266 Speaker 2: the Chiefs and like you know, then their arch nemesis rivals. 340 00:17:23,306 --> 00:17:25,746 Speaker 2: I dance over and I just I have no allegiance 341 00:17:25,786 --> 00:17:28,346 Speaker 2: to anybody. I'm truly a mercenary. I go over there 342 00:17:28,386 --> 00:17:30,546 Speaker 2: and I hang with the with the Chargers guys and 343 00:17:31,586 --> 00:17:34,546 Speaker 2: I gotta tell you, and this will make Chiefs fans 344 00:17:34,586 --> 00:17:37,666 Speaker 2: who listen cringe and Broncos fans who know my affinity 345 00:17:37,746 --> 00:17:42,986 Speaker 2: for their coach and all that Chargers. Harbaugh is like 346 00:17:43,226 --> 00:17:47,306 Speaker 2: a different deal. And this Joe Ortiz comes from twenty 347 00:17:47,466 --> 00:17:50,026 Speaker 2: six years with the Ravens. He's now their GM twenty 348 00:17:50,146 --> 00:17:54,626 Speaker 2: six years and they're talking about this new facility that 349 00:17:54,706 --> 00:17:58,226 Speaker 2: they got and what Greg Roman and Harbor I have 350 00:17:58,266 --> 00:18:01,306 Speaker 2: been talking about using justin Herbert. Now I have what 351 00:18:01,426 --> 00:18:03,386 Speaker 2: do they call that, the banana and the tailpipe. I've 352 00:18:03,466 --> 00:18:06,266 Speaker 2: phoned for that before in recent years, I have not. 353 00:18:06,626 --> 00:18:08,186 Speaker 2: In fact, I made a big deal about it on 354 00:18:08,266 --> 00:18:11,706 Speaker 2: Good Morning Football two years ago when twenty six different 355 00:18:11,826 --> 00:18:14,226 Speaker 2: NFL network on air personalities had to pick their Super 356 00:18:14,266 --> 00:18:17,866 Speaker 2: Bowl champion, and eleven of them took the Chargers, and 357 00:18:17,986 --> 00:18:21,426 Speaker 2: I said, guys, Chargers win every year in August. Don't 358 00:18:21,546 --> 00:18:24,586 Speaker 2: fall for the Chargers. And naturally, the Chiefs were the 359 00:18:24,626 --> 00:18:27,586 Speaker 2: ones lifting that Lombardi and the Chargers were eliminated in 360 00:18:27,626 --> 00:18:29,986 Speaker 2: the wildcar round and of course missed the playoffs. This year, 361 00:18:31,106 --> 00:18:34,026 Speaker 2: Harball wins, Harbor wins everywhere he goes, and there's like 362 00:18:34,066 --> 00:18:38,466 Speaker 2: a winning culture really interested to see how they come 363 00:18:38,506 --> 00:18:40,626 Speaker 2: out of the gates early and what they do when 364 00:18:40,626 --> 00:18:43,346 Speaker 2: they played the Chiefs the first time, because historically speaking, 365 00:18:43,666 --> 00:18:45,906 Speaker 2: Herbert always plays well and the Chiefs always beat them. 366 00:18:46,186 --> 00:18:48,146 Speaker 2: I mean, I think Herbert won on a Thursday night 367 00:18:48,546 --> 00:18:50,426 Speaker 2: or Philip Rivers won on a Thursday night once, and 368 00:18:50,466 --> 00:18:53,186 Speaker 2: then Herbert won another time on a Sunday afternoon early 369 00:18:53,266 --> 00:18:54,826 Speaker 2: in the season when they were when Staley went for 370 00:18:54,906 --> 00:18:57,106 Speaker 2: an arrowhead a fourth down like one hundred times. But 371 00:18:58,306 --> 00:19:00,666 Speaker 2: I gotta say I think the Chargers their vibe. They're 372 00:19:00,746 --> 00:19:03,186 Speaker 2: very happy and one of the deals they said, they're like, 373 00:19:03,346 --> 00:19:07,546 Speaker 2: we're waiting for that scathing article about Harball and how 374 00:19:07,586 --> 00:19:11,346 Speaker 2: this isn't gonna work, and like Bill Plashki hasn't written 375 00:19:11,426 --> 00:19:14,186 Speaker 2: that article yet. Sam Farmer hasn't written that article yet. 376 00:19:14,266 --> 00:19:16,986 Speaker 2: Nobody at NFL or ESPN has come out and said, actually, 377 00:19:16,986 --> 00:19:19,026 Speaker 2: this is gonna be a colossal failure. College coaches don't 378 00:19:19,026 --> 00:19:21,266 Speaker 2: work at the NFL like everyone seems to be on board, 379 00:19:21,266 --> 00:19:23,826 Speaker 2: which is a little disarming. That's not the case usually 380 00:19:23,946 --> 00:19:34,226 Speaker 2: with a new head coaching. Higher go to bed, wake 381 00:19:34,346 --> 00:19:41,266 Speaker 2: up just feeling vile, just disgusting steak, soup, pizza, you know, 382 00:19:41,666 --> 00:19:44,146 Speaker 2: probably two blue cheese wedges. So many blue cheese wedges 383 00:19:44,186 --> 00:19:48,946 Speaker 2: in two days, it was harmful. Wake up through the 384 00:19:49,026 --> 00:19:50,906 Speaker 2: Good Morning Football Show. We have Todd Bowles on as 385 00:19:50,946 --> 00:19:53,386 Speaker 2: a guest. Todd is awesome. I don't think if Todd 386 00:19:53,506 --> 00:19:58,106 Speaker 2: Bowles as like this, like you know, voracious or what's 387 00:19:58,146 --> 00:20:01,346 Speaker 2: the word even you know, big enigmatic personality or he 388 00:20:01,506 --> 00:20:04,946 Speaker 2: was awesome. We talked about it. Wants Baker Mayfield back, obviously, 389 00:20:05,306 --> 00:20:08,426 Speaker 2: would love Mike Evans obviously. But I asked Todd Bowles 390 00:20:08,466 --> 00:20:10,746 Speaker 2: about what's your memories of the Combine as a player, 391 00:20:10,746 --> 00:20:12,986 Speaker 2: because he played a temple. He said the Combine in 392 00:20:13,146 --> 00:20:17,386 Speaker 2: nineteen eighty five was in New Orleans at the Superdome, 393 00:20:18,106 --> 00:20:21,706 Speaker 2: and he said, I had my drills and they were 394 00:20:21,746 --> 00:20:24,066 Speaker 2: delayed for some reason, and it was nineteen eighty five. 395 00:20:24,106 --> 00:20:26,626 Speaker 2: There were no TV cameras. He goes, and I start 396 00:20:26,706 --> 00:20:28,946 Speaker 2: doing my drills and someone tassed me on the shoulder 397 00:20:28,946 --> 00:20:31,026 Speaker 2: and says, you got to get out of here because 398 00:20:31,066 --> 00:20:33,346 Speaker 2: you have a flight booked for six o'clock and if 399 00:20:33,386 --> 00:20:35,386 Speaker 2: you don't leave now, you're not going to make your airplanes. 400 00:20:35,386 --> 00:20:36,986 Speaker 2: So we said, so I got my stuff and I left, 401 00:20:37,386 --> 00:20:39,306 Speaker 2: and I said during the drills, He goes, Yeah, I 402 00:20:39,346 --> 00:20:41,306 Speaker 2: did a couple of drills. He goes, But I wasn't 403 00:20:41,466 --> 00:20:44,306 Speaker 2: missing that flight. Like that's how it was back then. 404 00:20:44,346 --> 00:20:46,106 Speaker 2: It was like you have to be on the plane, 405 00:20:46,186 --> 00:20:47,666 Speaker 2: like we can't get to another flight. Like if you 406 00:20:47,666 --> 00:20:49,826 Speaker 2: don't get that plane, you're not getting back to Philadelvia. 407 00:20:50,266 --> 00:20:52,466 Speaker 2: He goes undrafted, goes on to win Super Bowls and 408 00:20:52,586 --> 00:20:56,346 Speaker 2: now is one of the most respected men in football. Bowls. 409 00:20:56,546 --> 00:20:59,426 Speaker 2: Awesome and great energy from him, rooting for him and 410 00:20:59,546 --> 00:21:02,866 Speaker 2: rooting for what Tampa does this offseason. Because I'll tell you, 411 00:21:03,826 --> 00:21:05,906 Speaker 2: of all the teams that I spoke to this week, 412 00:21:05,946 --> 00:21:07,706 Speaker 2: and I talked to everybody, really, I tried to get 413 00:21:08,786 --> 00:21:13,026 Speaker 2: time with everyone, Tampa has maybe the most precarious offseason 414 00:21:13,106 --> 00:21:16,786 Speaker 2: decisions because they've got Baker, who they you know, they 415 00:21:16,866 --> 00:21:19,346 Speaker 2: want to hopefully get him to agree to like some 416 00:21:19,426 --> 00:21:22,746 Speaker 2: hometown discount. I would imagine he ain't doing that. Baker's 417 00:21:22,746 --> 00:21:25,906 Speaker 2: gonna have other options. So what's the number for Baker Mayfield? 418 00:21:25,986 --> 00:21:26,106 Speaker 3: Is it? 419 00:21:26,386 --> 00:21:28,106 Speaker 2: They have to pay what they've paid Daniel Jones in 420 00:21:28,106 --> 00:21:29,506 Speaker 2: New York. They have to pay forty million dollars to 421 00:21:29,506 --> 00:21:31,106 Speaker 2: Baker Mayfeld. It's a lot of money. For Baker who 422 00:21:31,106 --> 00:21:33,746 Speaker 2: made four million dollars last year. Imagine making ten x 423 00:21:33,826 --> 00:21:35,946 Speaker 2: of what you make over one year. Then again he 424 00:21:36,026 --> 00:21:39,306 Speaker 2: downs to the divisional round, then Antoine Winfield Junior. They're 425 00:21:39,466 --> 00:21:42,026 Speaker 2: probably gonna, you know, give him the tag if they 426 00:21:42,066 --> 00:21:45,346 Speaker 2: can't get an extension done. But as I made my 427 00:21:45,466 --> 00:21:47,826 Speaker 2: case to Bowls in the commercial break, like as we're talking, 428 00:21:48,026 --> 00:21:50,386 Speaker 2: like to me, that guy's a great safety. Pay them 429 00:21:50,786 --> 00:21:52,946 Speaker 2: pay him top dollar. I don't know, Like he's young, 430 00:21:53,026 --> 00:21:55,706 Speaker 2: he's good, it's a great teammate. Like pay him. And 431 00:21:55,786 --> 00:21:59,066 Speaker 2: then Mike Evans, who before the season was like, this 432 00:21:59,146 --> 00:22:01,026 Speaker 2: is my last is a buccaneer, I'm done, you know, 433 00:22:01,266 --> 00:22:03,346 Speaker 2: negotiating it, goes and has the best year of his 434 00:22:03,386 --> 00:22:05,586 Speaker 2: pro career. I think he had thirteen touchdowns. Like Mike 435 00:22:05,586 --> 00:22:07,586 Speaker 2: Evans was amazing. What do you do with him? They're 436 00:22:07,586 --> 00:22:10,306 Speaker 2: all free agents, so is Levonte David, so is Devin White. 437 00:22:11,706 --> 00:22:14,266 Speaker 2: Really interesting offseason in Tampa Bay. And it was cool 438 00:22:14,306 --> 00:22:17,466 Speaker 2: to get time with Todd Bowles. All right, so we 439 00:22:17,666 --> 00:22:20,346 Speaker 2: rap Good Morning Football, and I bolt out of there 440 00:22:20,546 --> 00:22:23,546 Speaker 2: because I have a standing date. One of the main 441 00:22:23,626 --> 00:22:25,506 Speaker 2: reasons I had to get to Combine. I have a 442 00:22:25,666 --> 00:22:30,186 Speaker 2: standing date going back many years now. Eleven am at 443 00:22:30,306 --> 00:22:35,666 Speaker 2: Cafe Patachew, which is an unbelievable breakfast spot in Indianapolis. 444 00:22:36,506 --> 00:22:38,866 Speaker 2: And that standing date is with Joe Shane, the GM 445 00:22:38,906 --> 00:22:41,506 Speaker 2: of the Giants, and Brandon Bean, the GM of the 446 00:22:41,506 --> 00:22:44,306 Speaker 2: Buffalo Bills. Those guys work together in Buffalo. They are 447 00:22:44,426 --> 00:22:47,426 Speaker 2: very close friends, and I have somehow been brought into 448 00:22:47,466 --> 00:22:49,386 Speaker 2: this great tradition where it's the three of us. We 449 00:22:49,546 --> 00:22:53,466 Speaker 2: have breakfast every single year Tuesday at the Combine. I 450 00:22:53,626 --> 00:22:55,386 Speaker 2: was not missing this. I found a way to get 451 00:22:55,426 --> 00:22:58,026 Speaker 2: there obviously from the show. Talk to Joe for a while, 452 00:22:58,146 --> 00:23:00,386 Speaker 2: talk to Brandon for a while, and I'll tell you 453 00:23:00,386 --> 00:23:02,706 Speaker 2: if you're going to Indianapolis and you're looking to go, 454 00:23:02,866 --> 00:23:05,386 Speaker 2: I told those places at night it's a free for 455 00:23:05,506 --> 00:23:08,386 Speaker 2: all at night. You go there, it's just, you know, 456 00:23:08,546 --> 00:23:12,466 Speaker 2: it's ninety dudes, ten women. You know, most of the 457 00:23:12,506 --> 00:23:14,786 Speaker 2: women are are individuals who we know who work in 458 00:23:14,866 --> 00:23:17,426 Speaker 2: the media, and a lot of the dudes are coaches 459 00:23:17,626 --> 00:23:19,546 Speaker 2: and media guys. But then you also have fans just 460 00:23:19,626 --> 00:23:23,906 Speaker 2: flocking there to like get a selfie. Uh kathe Patachew. 461 00:23:24,026 --> 00:23:25,746 Speaker 2: I don't want to give away any secrets, but you 462 00:23:25,866 --> 00:23:28,706 Speaker 2: walk in there, you're going to see everyone. You're going 463 00:23:28,786 --> 00:23:32,026 Speaker 2: to see, you know, all those executives. And in this case, 464 00:23:32,386 --> 00:23:37,386 Speaker 2: we're sitting down there and multiple agents came by and said, hello, 465 00:23:37,946 --> 00:23:41,626 Speaker 2: you got Joel Siegel in one corner. You've got Buddy 466 00:23:41,706 --> 00:23:47,146 Speaker 2: Baker in another corner. You've got RJ from CIA, who 467 00:23:47,226 --> 00:23:49,746 Speaker 2: is Tony Romo's guy in another area. Like it's just 468 00:23:49,906 --> 00:23:52,626 Speaker 2: it's one of those places where everyone's coming in and out. 469 00:23:52,706 --> 00:23:56,026 Speaker 2: And you know, Harball eats there most mornings, John Harbaugh, 470 00:23:56,626 --> 00:23:59,306 Speaker 2: Howie Roseman takes meetings there. Kevin Demo from the Rams, 471 00:23:59,346 --> 00:24:03,266 Speaker 2: that's usually his spot. Cafe Patachu little under the under 472 00:24:03,266 --> 00:24:05,906 Speaker 2: the radar spot. In our breakfast was awesome. Bean was 473 00:24:05,946 --> 00:24:07,986 Speaker 2: in great space as a Bills fan, Aaron I will 474 00:24:07,986 --> 00:24:11,986 Speaker 2: tell you they are feeling very good about the bounce 475 00:24:12,106 --> 00:24:15,586 Speaker 2: back from that loss. It was heartbreaking obviously, but they 476 00:24:15,706 --> 00:24:19,186 Speaker 2: like what they have. I'd say one possibility that just 477 00:24:19,426 --> 00:24:21,826 Speaker 2: you know, we'll see how it goes. But Gabe Davis, 478 00:24:21,906 --> 00:24:24,146 Speaker 2: who was such a good Buffalo Bill as a free agent, 479 00:24:24,706 --> 00:24:27,546 Speaker 2: you know, just the numbers game, and Brandon said, like, 480 00:24:28,026 --> 00:24:31,026 Speaker 2: I would love nothing more than for Gabe Davis to 481 00:24:31,146 --> 00:24:33,106 Speaker 2: come back. I don't know if we have enough money 482 00:24:33,266 --> 00:24:35,906 Speaker 2: left to pay what he's gonna get, and that might 483 00:24:35,946 --> 00:24:38,106 Speaker 2: be the end of that road. But we'll see as 484 00:24:38,186 --> 00:24:41,106 Speaker 2: Gabe Davis is a beloved Buffalo bill and one of 485 00:24:41,146 --> 00:24:44,546 Speaker 2: their many free agents. All right, so we wrap that, 486 00:24:45,146 --> 00:24:48,266 Speaker 2: go back and think like take a nap, right, No, No, 487 00:24:48,626 --> 00:24:52,586 Speaker 2: because my buddy Mike Greenberg, who also works for Tampa Bay, 488 00:24:52,986 --> 00:24:55,506 Speaker 2: he's in town. Got to see him. He handles the 489 00:24:55,546 --> 00:24:57,786 Speaker 2: salary cap. As I was saying, Buccaneers have all sorts 490 00:24:57,786 --> 00:24:59,906 Speaker 2: of stuff. He and I get get a bite as 491 00:24:59,946 --> 00:25:04,346 Speaker 2: we're sitting there. Joe Barry, who was recently fired from 492 00:25:04,386 --> 00:25:06,706 Speaker 2: the Green Bay Packers or stepped away, however you want 493 00:25:06,706 --> 00:25:08,506 Speaker 2: to say it. I say fired. It sounds so negative. 494 00:25:08,506 --> 00:25:10,706 Speaker 2: He might, you know, want to slip my neck like 495 00:25:10,706 --> 00:25:13,306 Speaker 2: I didn't get fired. I decided to leave as mutual. 496 00:25:13,866 --> 00:25:17,266 Speaker 2: He's now working in Miami as the outside linebackers coach. 497 00:25:17,306 --> 00:25:20,066 Speaker 2: And here was the coolest deal. See Joe, he looks great, 498 00:25:20,626 --> 00:25:24,706 Speaker 2: great spirits. He says he got on a plane Monday 499 00:25:24,786 --> 00:25:27,626 Speaker 2: from suburban Wisconsin outside of Green Bay and it was 500 00:25:28,066 --> 00:25:30,786 Speaker 2: negative ten degrees and snowing. Got off the plane in 501 00:25:30,866 --> 00:25:32,986 Speaker 2: Fort Lauderdale and it was eighty five degrees and the 502 00:25:33,026 --> 00:25:35,466 Speaker 2: sun was shining, and he's like, I don't know how 503 00:25:35,626 --> 00:25:37,626 Speaker 2: my career goes, but like I'm gonna be all right, 504 00:25:37,746 --> 00:25:39,866 Speaker 2: Like I'll be okay, this is a good decision. He 505 00:25:39,946 --> 00:25:42,466 Speaker 2: and Mike McDaniel have never worked together, but because of 506 00:25:42,546 --> 00:25:46,466 Speaker 2: their shared overlaps with lafleur and McVeigh and so many 507 00:25:46,546 --> 00:25:49,146 Speaker 2: other people that have worked together, he's he's got a 508 00:25:49,186 --> 00:25:51,386 Speaker 2: great fondness for Mike McDaniel and they've hung before, so 509 00:25:51,426 --> 00:25:53,466 Speaker 2: he said, it's going great. The coolest part is this, 510 00:25:54,546 --> 00:25:56,346 Speaker 2: and might ask you to google his name and read 511 00:25:56,386 --> 00:25:59,746 Speaker 2: a little resume and forget it. Joe's like, hey, Shregs, 512 00:26:00,066 --> 00:26:02,346 Speaker 2: like you've always been a pal of mine. You're great, 513 00:26:02,466 --> 00:26:04,626 Speaker 2: And I love Joe Berr. I think he's a great dude. 514 00:26:04,946 --> 00:26:07,266 Speaker 2: His father in law's Rod Maren. Now I always knew 515 00:26:07,306 --> 00:26:09,626 Speaker 2: that his father in law is Rod Marinelly, former coach 516 00:26:10,386 --> 00:26:13,066 Speaker 2: for many years defensive line of course, the Lions head coach, 517 00:26:13,906 --> 00:26:16,306 Speaker 2: considered one of the best defensive line coaches of all time. 518 00:26:16,346 --> 00:26:19,866 Speaker 2: So he's married to Rod's daughter. He says, this is 519 00:26:19,946 --> 00:26:25,106 Speaker 2: my dad, Okay, meeting Joe Barry's dad. Google Joe Barry's dad. 520 00:26:25,106 --> 00:26:26,706 Speaker 2: I gotta get a first name for this, because this 521 00:26:26,786 --> 00:26:30,986 Speaker 2: guy needs his own TV show. Unbelievable dude built like 522 00:26:31,106 --> 00:26:34,746 Speaker 2: a brick house, just like Jacked dude in his seventies. 523 00:26:35,266 --> 00:26:38,186 Speaker 2: Does anything come up Joe Barry's father, because he's telling 524 00:26:38,266 --> 00:26:42,106 Speaker 2: me I was the offensive line coach at Tennessee under 525 00:26:42,146 --> 00:26:44,306 Speaker 2: Phil Fumer when we won in ninety eight. Do we 526 00:26:44,346 --> 00:26:46,106 Speaker 2: have a little bio on Mike Barry. 527 00:26:46,346 --> 00:26:50,226 Speaker 3: Former o line coach. He coached for high schools and 528 00:26:50,426 --> 00:26:54,786 Speaker 3: then the USFL. He was with the San Antonio gun Slingers, 529 00:26:54,866 --> 00:26:58,746 Speaker 3: Dolan Breakers, and then the Detroit Lions. And he played 530 00:26:58,826 --> 00:27:02,546 Speaker 3: college football for Nebraska and Southern Illinois as a center. 531 00:27:02,826 --> 00:27:06,386 Speaker 2: Okay, he ends up as the Tennessee offensive line coach 532 00:27:06,626 --> 00:27:10,346 Speaker 2: for years, four years under Phil Follmer in their glory ears. 533 00:27:10,426 --> 00:27:13,626 Speaker 2: And then we immediately start talking and I don't know 534 00:27:13,666 --> 00:27:15,906 Speaker 2: where it went there. We start talking about the team 535 00:27:15,986 --> 00:27:18,666 Speaker 2: martin ninety eight Tennessee Volunteers, and I started listening to 536 00:27:18,706 --> 00:27:21,106 Speaker 2: that backfilm, like he got Jamal Lewis, he got Travis Stevens, 537 00:27:21,146 --> 00:27:24,426 Speaker 2: he got Travis Henry, he got Sean Bryce, and he's like, whoa, whoa, whoaa, 538 00:27:24,706 --> 00:27:26,426 Speaker 2: how the hell do you know? This son. I'm like, 539 00:27:26,666 --> 00:27:29,026 Speaker 2: because I love that team. And then Joe Barry starts 540 00:27:29,066 --> 00:27:30,466 Speaker 2: chiming in and he's like a on defense. They had 541 00:27:30,546 --> 00:27:33,026 Speaker 2: Al Wilson and Raynock Thompson. This is the beauty of 542 00:27:33,066 --> 00:27:35,626 Speaker 2: the combine. We now get into a fifteen minute conversation 543 00:27:35,706 --> 00:27:39,506 Speaker 2: about the ninety eight Tennessee volunteers and he said he 544 00:27:39,666 --> 00:27:41,586 Speaker 2: walked into the old line room and and you know, 545 00:27:41,706 --> 00:27:44,186 Speaker 2: Peyton Manning, for all this time at Tennessee had never 546 00:27:44,306 --> 00:27:47,306 Speaker 2: beaten Florida. And this gentleman, Mike Barry comes in as 547 00:27:47,346 --> 00:27:50,666 Speaker 2: the offensive line coach, refresh off Peyton Manning never been 548 00:27:50,666 --> 00:27:52,786 Speaker 2: able to get our Florida and he says, we ain't 549 00:27:52,866 --> 00:27:55,906 Speaker 2: losing them Florida Gators. And then Tennessee comes out there 550 00:27:55,946 --> 00:27:58,266 Speaker 2: and they bullied Florida around and they win and tem 551 00:27:58,346 --> 00:28:01,306 Speaker 2: Martin beats the Florida Gators and Steve Spurrier and I'm 552 00:28:01,346 --> 00:28:03,826 Speaker 2: ready to run through a wall and I'm like, the combine, baby, 553 00:28:03,906 --> 00:28:16,226 Speaker 2: let's talkat So I have those two interactions, It's awesome. 554 00:28:17,426 --> 00:28:20,106 Speaker 2: But then the big one on Tuesday night is I 555 00:28:20,266 --> 00:28:24,706 Speaker 2: have another standing dinner and it's with Sean Payton and 556 00:28:24,826 --> 00:28:27,586 Speaker 2: it's with Mickey Loomis, who's the general manager of the Saints. 557 00:28:27,946 --> 00:28:30,946 Speaker 2: And then George Peyton joined us, who works for the 558 00:28:31,066 --> 00:28:34,586 Speaker 2: Denver Broncos as their general manager. And then I love this. 559 00:28:34,746 --> 00:28:38,386 Speaker 2: They brought around a guy named Mike Ornstein, nicknamed Ornie. 560 00:28:39,026 --> 00:28:42,466 Speaker 2: I'd say google Ornie. I would say google Ornie, just 561 00:28:42,506 --> 00:28:44,786 Speaker 2: like Shane Gillis said, google it. But let's not talk 562 00:28:44,826 --> 00:28:47,146 Speaker 2: about it. That's it. Ornie has one of those decorated 563 00:28:47,266 --> 00:28:50,586 Speaker 2: careers in football. I truly think there could be a 564 00:28:50,626 --> 00:28:53,786 Speaker 2: movie made on Ornie. He worked for Al Davis and 565 00:28:53,826 --> 00:28:56,066 Speaker 2: the Raiders, he worked for the League, and he for 566 00:28:56,146 --> 00:28:59,626 Speaker 2: a long time has been Sean Payton's guy. He doesn't 567 00:28:59,666 --> 00:29:03,226 Speaker 2: work for Denver, but he is affiliated with Sean Payton, 568 00:29:03,266 --> 00:29:06,546 Speaker 2: and Sean Payton will go to bat for Ornie and 569 00:29:06,946 --> 00:29:09,146 Speaker 2: we'll be there and Ornie comes. He's got to be 570 00:29:09,266 --> 00:29:11,386 Speaker 2: in his seventies. I don't know how old he is, 571 00:29:11,466 --> 00:29:13,466 Speaker 2: but he's still sharp as attack. And he's sitting at 572 00:29:13,506 --> 00:29:17,186 Speaker 2: our table and he's telling us stories from yesteryear. He's 573 00:29:17,186 --> 00:29:19,466 Speaker 2: talking us about when Roder Goodell was a was a 574 00:29:19,626 --> 00:29:22,106 Speaker 2: PR guy for the Jets, and how he knew rob 575 00:29:22,186 --> 00:29:25,866 Speaker 2: Dri Goodell. Then he's talking about you know, tagleaboo, and 576 00:29:25,946 --> 00:29:29,386 Speaker 2: then he starts getting into the Sean Payton Saints days 577 00:29:29,506 --> 00:29:31,706 Speaker 2: and what they were building there in New Orleans and 578 00:29:31,906 --> 00:29:34,706 Speaker 2: just how many wild stories there were sewn is in 579 00:29:35,426 --> 00:29:38,906 Speaker 2: unbelievable spirits. Then I know it's February, and I know 580 00:29:38,986 --> 00:29:40,706 Speaker 2: there's no reason not to be been like like this 581 00:29:40,866 --> 00:29:44,306 Speaker 2: Russell Wilson thing is looming, and yet here's Sean Payton, 582 00:29:44,706 --> 00:29:47,786 Speaker 2: cool as could be. At Saint Elmos. Two different people 583 00:29:47,866 --> 00:29:50,506 Speaker 2: come over to say hello. One of them is Brian Harlan, 584 00:29:50,946 --> 00:29:55,026 Speaker 2: who is now a coaches agent, but he's Kevin Harlan's brother. 585 00:29:55,386 --> 00:29:59,106 Speaker 2: Their father, Bob was long affiliated with the Chicago Bears. 586 00:29:59,386 --> 00:30:02,386 Speaker 2: So Brian comes over. Brian represents I think both Harball brothers, 587 00:30:02,826 --> 00:30:05,666 Speaker 2: represents a few other people, and he was regaling us 588 00:30:05,706 --> 00:30:08,786 Speaker 2: with stories of when Sean Payton interviewed for the Green 589 00:30:08,866 --> 00:30:12,026 Speaker 2: Bay Packers before he took the Saints job, and Ornie 590 00:30:12,146 --> 00:30:13,906 Speaker 2: keeps on, Johnny, yeah, but you didn't hire him, You 591 00:30:13,986 --> 00:30:16,506 Speaker 2: didn't hire him. You guys didn't hire him. And Ornie's 592 00:30:16,506 --> 00:30:18,186 Speaker 2: just got Peyton's back, like, yeah, yeah, you loved them 593 00:30:18,226 --> 00:30:19,906 Speaker 2: so much with the Packers, but you guys didn' hire him, 594 00:30:19,906 --> 00:30:21,426 Speaker 2: you guys didn't hire guy, and Seans like, all right, 595 00:30:21,426 --> 00:30:24,306 Speaker 2: already enough, I get it. It's great. Uh, but I 596 00:30:24,346 --> 00:30:26,386 Speaker 2: don't even know that side of Sean Payton that he 597 00:30:26,466 --> 00:30:29,466 Speaker 2: went and he interviewed with the Packers, didn't get the Packers' job, 598 00:30:29,626 --> 00:30:32,066 Speaker 2: and then got the Saints job. So he was talking 599 00:30:32,106 --> 00:30:34,386 Speaker 2: about that whole process and how what an honor it 600 00:30:34,386 --> 00:30:36,146 Speaker 2: would have been to been the Packers head coach. I'm like, 601 00:30:36,146 --> 00:30:38,706 Speaker 2: what a fascinating, like a cross road. He would have 602 00:30:38,706 --> 00:30:40,986 Speaker 2: had Aaron Rodgers who knows instead of Drew Brees, and 603 00:30:41,106 --> 00:30:44,066 Speaker 2: like what would have happened there? We talked about Russell, 604 00:30:44,626 --> 00:30:47,346 Speaker 2: talked about Russell. There'll be news coming on Russell obviously, 605 00:30:48,946 --> 00:30:51,386 Speaker 2: and then we went down memory lane about the combine 606 00:30:51,426 --> 00:30:55,146 Speaker 2: and Mickey Loomis is incredible with this stuff. Mickey was 607 00:30:55,146 --> 00:30:57,746 Speaker 2: with Seattle for many years, came over, he was a 608 00:30:57,946 --> 00:31:00,626 Speaker 2: Chuck Knox disciple, comes over to the Saints the same 609 00:31:00,666 --> 00:31:02,626 Speaker 2: around the same time as Sean two thousand and two, 610 00:31:02,666 --> 00:31:04,546 Speaker 2: two thousand and three, and if there were the Saints 611 00:31:04,586 --> 00:31:07,226 Speaker 2: ever since, longest ten year GM and the lead. He 612 00:31:07,266 --> 00:31:09,946 Speaker 2: has incredible stories. And he was telling me that you 613 00:31:09,986 --> 00:31:12,626 Speaker 2: know we're in sant Elmos and as we're in there 614 00:31:12,626 --> 00:31:14,746 Speaker 2: and Harlan comes over to say hi, and a couple 615 00:31:14,786 --> 00:31:17,626 Speaker 2: other people come over here, and there's a kid. There's 616 00:31:17,626 --> 00:31:19,106 Speaker 2: a kid who comes by and it's like yo to 617 00:31:19,186 --> 00:31:21,186 Speaker 2: Sean Payton, I love like Yo, I'm friends with Gary V. 618 00:31:21,786 --> 00:31:23,306 Speaker 2: And Shawn's looking at him like I'm like, I'm like 619 00:31:23,546 --> 00:31:25,826 Speaker 2: dying inside, and he's like and he's like, yeah, gary Vee. 620 00:31:25,866 --> 00:31:27,666 Speaker 2: And like Sean has no idea who Gary V is. 621 00:31:27,746 --> 00:31:30,306 Speaker 2: Maybe he does, but like he does a Gary Vee there, 622 00:31:30,386 --> 00:31:31,866 Speaker 2: Like Sean takes a photo of this guy and I'm like, 623 00:31:31,906 --> 00:31:34,546 Speaker 2: I love the combine. Only here could some twenty year 624 00:31:34,546 --> 00:31:36,226 Speaker 2: old guy be like, I know Gary V is that 625 00:31:36,506 --> 00:31:38,466 Speaker 2: the into Sean Payton. Sean Payton's looking at him cross 626 00:31:38,506 --> 00:31:40,226 Speaker 2: that I don't know what that means. Okay, Like right, 627 00:31:40,386 --> 00:31:41,626 Speaker 2: and I'm sitting at the table like I know who 628 00:31:41,626 --> 00:31:44,626 Speaker 2: Gary V is. He's talking about NFT's and collectible on 629 00:31:44,746 --> 00:31:48,546 Speaker 2: my timeline. Shout out to Gary Vanynerchuk. I'll come on 630 00:31:48,626 --> 00:31:49,666 Speaker 2: your podcast if you want me. 631 00:31:50,146 --> 00:31:50,266 Speaker 3: Uh. 632 00:31:50,586 --> 00:31:53,186 Speaker 2: But Sean Mickey Lewis is like, once upon a time 633 00:31:53,506 --> 00:31:56,106 Speaker 2: you'd come here and it was you know, you'd have 634 00:31:56,186 --> 00:31:58,586 Speaker 2: Peter King you'd have John Clayton, you'd have Chris Mortenson, 635 00:31:58,626 --> 00:32:01,866 Speaker 2: you'd have Will McDonough and it would just be that 636 00:32:02,146 --> 00:32:04,986 Speaker 2: as far as media. And now you look around and 637 00:32:05,106 --> 00:32:07,826 Speaker 2: it's every team has their home in house media team. 638 00:32:07,826 --> 00:32:10,746 Speaker 2: You've got NFL Network sending a BRIGADEI of reporters, You've 639 00:32:10,786 --> 00:32:14,186 Speaker 2: got ESPN sending their entire army, and you've got every newspaper, 640 00:32:14,306 --> 00:32:16,986 Speaker 2: radio station, everyone's sending it. And it's it's great for 641 00:32:17,106 --> 00:32:20,066 Speaker 2: content because you have access to everyone there. And Mickey's 642 00:32:20,106 --> 00:32:22,386 Speaker 2: just like, it's unbelievable what this thing has become. And 643 00:32:23,106 --> 00:32:25,226 Speaker 2: I said to him, well, do you think nil money 644 00:32:25,346 --> 00:32:26,906 Speaker 2: might change this thing? And he's like, well, what do 645 00:32:26,986 --> 00:32:29,466 Speaker 2: you mean. I'm like, well, if the college kids are 646 00:32:29,466 --> 00:32:32,666 Speaker 2: all getting paid, do they necessarily need to be you know, 647 00:32:32,906 --> 00:32:34,906 Speaker 2: coming to the combine again and he's like, I I 648 00:32:35,506 --> 00:32:37,266 Speaker 2: you know, the whole table was like, I think there's 649 00:32:37,266 --> 00:32:39,986 Speaker 2: a great value for all these prospects and for coaches 650 00:32:40,026 --> 00:32:43,226 Speaker 2: and general managers for being here in person, getting to 651 00:32:43,306 --> 00:32:45,826 Speaker 2: see the person in person and getting the chance to 652 00:32:45,946 --> 00:32:49,186 Speaker 2: go through the interview process and get to meet face 653 00:32:49,266 --> 00:32:52,386 Speaker 2: to face as opposed to on a zoom screen. That 654 00:32:52,666 --> 00:32:57,626 Speaker 2: was Tuesday night, NFL Network had a little get together 655 00:32:58,226 --> 00:33:00,546 Speaker 2: at Prime forty seven. I popped over there, said hello 656 00:33:00,626 --> 00:33:03,026 Speaker 2: to everybody. It was great, and I made the conscious 657 00:33:03,066 --> 00:33:05,506 Speaker 2: decision nine o'clock, get in a bed because we've got 658 00:33:05,506 --> 00:33:08,146 Speaker 2: a long week ahead, Go to sleep, Get on my 659 00:33:08,226 --> 00:33:10,786 Speaker 2: plane after we do Good Morning Football, full show. Good 660 00:33:10,786 --> 00:33:13,946 Speaker 2: Morning Football was great. Get on the plane. And who's 661 00:33:13,946 --> 00:33:16,426 Speaker 2: sitting right in front of me but John Mahra, the 662 00:33:16,986 --> 00:33:18,906 Speaker 2: owner and chairman of the New York Giants, who was 663 00:33:18,946 --> 00:33:21,026 Speaker 2: there for competition committee stuff. And I'm like, if I 664 00:33:21,066 --> 00:33:22,826 Speaker 2: ever want to be humbled, or if I ever want 665 00:33:22,866 --> 00:33:25,746 Speaker 2: to just know, like like all right, hotch it like here, 666 00:33:26,506 --> 00:33:29,146 Speaker 2: if the owner of the Giants is sitting in front 667 00:33:29,146 --> 00:33:31,786 Speaker 2: of me on a commercial flight at you know, eleven 668 00:33:31,826 --> 00:33:35,106 Speaker 2: am at Indianapolis, don't ever get too big for your breitches. 669 00:33:35,226 --> 00:33:39,226 Speaker 2: Like it's good to see that sometimes and realize like, hey, okay, 670 00:33:39,506 --> 00:33:41,506 Speaker 2: like if he's flying like that and he's dealing with 671 00:33:41,586 --> 00:33:44,226 Speaker 2: the same you know, issues of an airport, I could 672 00:33:44,306 --> 00:33:46,546 Speaker 2: I could stop bitching about all my you know, flight 673 00:33:46,586 --> 00:33:51,186 Speaker 2: delays and whatever else. Get back, do the show today, 674 00:33:51,346 --> 00:33:53,426 Speaker 2: do the show tomorrow, and then I'll be right back 675 00:33:53,506 --> 00:33:56,306 Speaker 2: in Indy. But real quick some takeaways. As I said, 676 00:33:56,386 --> 00:33:58,706 Speaker 2: this will be a quicker podcast. No guests just wanted 677 00:33:58,706 --> 00:34:01,466 Speaker 2: to give him a recap of my week. The Caleb 678 00:34:01,466 --> 00:34:03,786 Speaker 2: Williams thing is fascinating. So I've got all these notes 679 00:34:03,826 --> 00:34:05,506 Speaker 2: in front of me, because I literally have a notebook 680 00:34:05,826 --> 00:34:08,586 Speaker 2: when I go there and I write things down. Here 681 00:34:08,626 --> 00:34:12,946 Speaker 2: are some notable NIL endorsement deals that Caleb Williams had 682 00:34:13,186 --> 00:34:19,266 Speaker 2: at USC Wendy's Doctor Pepper, Nissan, United Airlines, PlayStation Neutrigina. 683 00:34:19,706 --> 00:34:22,026 Speaker 2: He has reportably, I have this down in my notes, 684 00:34:22,066 --> 00:34:25,906 Speaker 2: has reportedly made around ten to twelve million dollars in 685 00:34:26,106 --> 00:34:32,466 Speaker 2: NIL deals and endorsements combines. Here, Caleb Williams decides he's 686 00:34:32,506 --> 00:34:34,426 Speaker 2: not going to arrive the same day everyone else does. 687 00:34:34,426 --> 00:34:37,346 Speaker 2: I'm gonna come a day later, okay. I'm also not 688 00:34:37,506 --> 00:34:40,306 Speaker 2: going to necessarily go through the medical examinations at every 689 00:34:40,386 --> 00:34:42,706 Speaker 2: quarterback who's ever been to the Combine has done. I'm 690 00:34:42,746 --> 00:34:44,306 Speaker 2: just gonna say I'm good. You guys don't need to 691 00:34:44,346 --> 00:34:48,306 Speaker 2: inspect me. I'm also not gonna throw. I'm also not 692 00:34:48,386 --> 00:34:51,226 Speaker 2: gonna run. And I don't know if he's gonna be 693 00:34:51,266 --> 00:34:54,906 Speaker 2: sticking around much longer after Friday Night's interviews. With the 694 00:34:55,026 --> 00:34:57,106 Speaker 2: media where he's got to just do one podium session. 695 00:34:57,426 --> 00:34:58,986 Speaker 2: I'm not sure he's gonna even stick around for the 696 00:34:59,066 --> 00:35:01,986 Speaker 2: day that they do the drills, And already there's that 697 00:35:02,106 --> 00:35:06,866 Speaker 2: buzz of does he love this? Is he entitled? You 698 00:35:06,906 --> 00:35:10,426 Speaker 2: know what's his deal? And I think it's a really 699 00:35:10,466 --> 00:35:15,946 Speaker 2: interesting case study. He is the first nil superstar to 700 00:35:16,186 --> 00:35:19,426 Speaker 2: enter the draft where he is a no brainer, top 701 00:35:19,466 --> 00:35:22,666 Speaker 2: overall pick, and he has twelve million dollars in his 702 00:35:22,786 --> 00:35:26,386 Speaker 2: pocket and without a traditional football agent, which he doesn't have. 703 00:35:26,586 --> 00:35:28,706 Speaker 2: He's got a team of managers and his father's very, 704 00:35:28,946 --> 00:35:32,786 Speaker 2: very involved. Does he have to play by the rules? 705 00:35:33,106 --> 00:35:35,386 Speaker 2: Is it a huge turnoff that he doesn't want to 706 00:35:35,426 --> 00:35:36,946 Speaker 2: throw at the comma? Is it a huge turnoff that 707 00:35:36,986 --> 00:35:39,186 Speaker 2: he comes a day later? Is it a huge turnoff 708 00:35:39,226 --> 00:35:42,426 Speaker 2: that he lives in La right now, in a beautiful 709 00:35:42,466 --> 00:35:46,706 Speaker 2: apartment that overlooks all of Los Angeles and doesn't necessarily 710 00:35:46,826 --> 00:35:50,626 Speaker 2: need to play by the NFL's traditional combine rules. I 711 00:35:50,746 --> 00:35:55,026 Speaker 2: can't find anyone with rational thinking and write my thinking 712 00:35:55,546 --> 00:35:59,066 Speaker 2: that this is not a fair comparison to compare him 713 00:35:59,066 --> 00:36:02,386 Speaker 2: to quarterbacks of yesteryear, like this is apples to oranges? Now? 714 00:36:03,066 --> 00:36:05,506 Speaker 2: Is it easier to just suck it up and say, 715 00:36:05,666 --> 00:36:07,426 Speaker 2: all right, I'll be there on time. I'll come and 716 00:36:07,506 --> 00:36:09,026 Speaker 2: do all this stuff, and I'll I won't miss I 717 00:36:09,026 --> 00:36:11,426 Speaker 2: won't be a day you know, later than everyone else. Whatever. 718 00:36:11,906 --> 00:36:14,826 Speaker 2: Maybe maybe that makes simpler, But I also think we're 719 00:36:14,866 --> 00:36:17,226 Speaker 2: looking at it in a different lens and in a 720 00:36:17,306 --> 00:36:19,946 Speaker 2: weird way. And I say this with NFL being a 721 00:36:19,986 --> 00:36:22,706 Speaker 2: part of this podcast, like, is he doing the combine 722 00:36:22,746 --> 00:36:26,586 Speaker 2: a favor even attending it because he knows he's going 723 00:36:26,666 --> 00:36:30,466 Speaker 2: first overall? Does he even have to be there at all? 724 00:36:31,026 --> 00:36:33,386 Speaker 2: He showed up, He's going to do the interviews. I 725 00:36:33,466 --> 00:36:35,746 Speaker 2: know he interviewed with Washington. I talked to Cliff, said, 726 00:36:35,786 --> 00:36:38,146 Speaker 2: you know, it was great seeing you know Caleb again. 727 00:36:38,546 --> 00:36:40,306 Speaker 2: He's got a bunch of different interviews. He's going to 728 00:36:40,346 --> 00:36:43,466 Speaker 2: go through the process. But this is where we pick 729 00:36:43,546 --> 00:36:45,586 Speaker 2: people apart, and this is the time I would say, 730 00:36:45,706 --> 00:36:48,386 Speaker 2: be cautious in doing that with the NIL athlete, and 731 00:36:48,506 --> 00:36:50,426 Speaker 2: especially a guy who's made so much and has been 732 00:36:50,466 --> 00:36:53,866 Speaker 2: so famous and has already been told from basically everyone 733 00:36:53,906 --> 00:36:55,906 Speaker 2: that you're the number one overall pick bearing to do 734 00:36:55,986 --> 00:36:58,746 Speaker 2: something horribly wrong in the next two months, you're going 735 00:36:58,826 --> 00:37:00,626 Speaker 2: number one overall, there's nothing the other guys could do 736 00:37:00,666 --> 00:37:03,186 Speaker 2: to jump it. Now where he goes that still yet 737 00:37:03,226 --> 00:37:06,346 Speaker 2: to be determined. But I think it was a really 738 00:37:06,466 --> 00:37:08,306 Speaker 2: and like the fact he came and showed up like 739 00:37:08,746 --> 00:37:10,946 Speaker 2: that checks the box for me. Do the interviews, me 740 00:37:11,026 --> 00:37:13,066 Speaker 2: the teams. I don't need you to be doing flips, 741 00:37:13,106 --> 00:37:16,186 Speaker 2: and I certainly don't need you to be risking anything 742 00:37:16,306 --> 00:37:18,706 Speaker 2: on the performance in the workouts. Aaron just coming at 743 00:37:18,706 --> 00:37:22,106 Speaker 2: it from an outsider's perspective. When you hear that every 744 00:37:22,146 --> 00:37:24,626 Speaker 2: other quarterback arrived on one day and every other quarterback 745 00:37:24,666 --> 00:37:26,826 Speaker 2: is going to do the medical examination and that Caleb's 746 00:37:26,826 --> 00:37:29,226 Speaker 2: maybe taking a different route, does it rub you wrong 747 00:37:29,306 --> 00:37:32,946 Speaker 2: as a football fan or is it? I have to 748 00:37:32,986 --> 00:37:34,706 Speaker 2: look at it as a business now, and that's exactly 749 00:37:34,746 --> 00:37:36,106 Speaker 2: what this is. And this kid doesn't need to do 750 00:37:36,186 --> 00:37:36,506 Speaker 2: any of that. 751 00:37:37,106 --> 00:37:40,306 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think if it weren't so, if he hadn't 752 00:37:40,706 --> 00:37:43,626 Speaker 3: had this past year of just being presumed as the 753 00:37:43,786 --> 00:37:48,386 Speaker 3: top quarterback in a class full of great quarterback prospects, 754 00:37:48,946 --> 00:37:51,746 Speaker 3: it might be different. Like if he came in and 755 00:37:52,026 --> 00:37:53,986 Speaker 3: was like, actually, I'll do everything, but I don't want 756 00:37:54,026 --> 00:37:54,506 Speaker 3: to get weighed. 757 00:37:54,746 --> 00:37:56,546 Speaker 2: That's the one thing I won't let you do, it'd 758 00:37:56,586 --> 00:37:57,826 Speaker 2: be a red flag, yea. 759 00:37:58,106 --> 00:38:01,146 Speaker 3: But the fact that he's just like, what else does 760 00:38:01,226 --> 00:38:03,506 Speaker 3: he have to prove? I mean, you know, And so 761 00:38:03,626 --> 00:38:09,466 Speaker 3: I think it's he is fascinating as a prospect. I 762 00:38:09,546 --> 00:38:11,986 Speaker 3: don't think I need to watch him throw anymore to 763 00:38:12,146 --> 00:38:14,586 Speaker 3: know that. I like, he has plenty of tape doing 764 00:38:14,666 --> 00:38:17,186 Speaker 3: that and scrambling, and all the questions are there obviously, 765 00:38:18,626 --> 00:38:23,266 Speaker 3: you know, can he can he play within himself and 766 00:38:23,386 --> 00:38:25,426 Speaker 3: not sort of get scattered too? 767 00:38:28,186 --> 00:38:30,666 Speaker 2: Yeah? To me, it's this is more about entitlement and 768 00:38:30,706 --> 00:38:32,386 Speaker 2: whether people are turned off by it. And from what 769 00:38:32,466 --> 00:38:34,306 Speaker 2: I got at the NFL, people are like, you can't 770 00:38:34,346 --> 00:38:35,946 Speaker 2: be turned on by it. And if you've been following 771 00:38:35,986 --> 00:38:38,426 Speaker 2: college football, that's what these college coaches are dealing with 772 00:38:38,466 --> 00:38:38,866 Speaker 2: every day. 773 00:38:39,426 --> 00:38:41,426 Speaker 3: And how can you say? I mean, I know, the 774 00:38:41,506 --> 00:38:43,546 Speaker 3: question is like does he love it? This is the 775 00:38:43,626 --> 00:38:46,666 Speaker 3: guy who like lost the game and had so much 776 00:38:46,706 --> 00:38:50,546 Speaker 3: emotion because he lost. Like, I think that's I think 777 00:38:50,586 --> 00:38:52,666 Speaker 3: it's a silly question. Does he care about it? 778 00:38:52,746 --> 00:38:54,546 Speaker 2: I've heard from I've heard from people not in the 779 00:38:54,546 --> 00:38:57,266 Speaker 2: football world, but like you know, fans when I tweet 780 00:38:57,266 --> 00:39:00,386 Speaker 2: about Cayleb Williams that like he cried to his mommy 781 00:39:00,426 --> 00:39:02,746 Speaker 2: after a loss. I'm like, jeez, it's like these are 782 00:39:02,826 --> 00:39:04,346 Speaker 2: things that he's gonna have to answer, and he will. 783 00:39:04,986 --> 00:39:06,906 Speaker 2: But I also think that's like, I don't think it's 784 00:39:06,906 --> 00:39:08,986 Speaker 2: a negative either. A guy was emotional. That was it 785 00:39:09,226 --> 00:39:13,226 Speaker 2: so curious it look you hear the stuff drives a 786 00:39:13,266 --> 00:39:16,786 Speaker 2: fancy car, has a sick apartments. It was all above 787 00:39:16,866 --> 00:39:18,666 Speaker 2: water like it used to be like so taboo, but 788 00:39:18,786 --> 00:39:22,506 Speaker 2: like it's legal now. You can't hold that against him. 789 00:39:22,706 --> 00:39:25,626 Speaker 2: So I think that's one interesting one. The other one 790 00:39:25,986 --> 00:39:29,426 Speaker 2: and we're gonna see him work out. I don't know 791 00:39:29,506 --> 00:39:33,346 Speaker 2: what to make a JJ McCarthy Michigan quarterback National champion, 792 00:39:33,466 --> 00:39:35,066 Speaker 2: and I say that and it sounds like I'm being like, 793 00:39:35,786 --> 00:39:40,906 Speaker 2: h here's the deal. Everybody says he's unbelievable, and he's 794 00:39:41,426 --> 00:39:43,506 Speaker 2: he's been an amazing interview I talked to multiple people 795 00:39:43,506 --> 00:39:45,866 Speaker 2: have interviewed I'm like kids out of this world. But 796 00:39:45,986 --> 00:39:50,146 Speaker 2: at Michigan, there are games, including the Penn State Game, 797 00:39:50,706 --> 00:39:52,786 Speaker 2: where he wasn't asked to throw the ball. He's asked 798 00:39:52,786 --> 00:39:54,306 Speaker 2: to hand the ball off, and in a lot of 799 00:39:54,346 --> 00:39:57,266 Speaker 2: ways his stats do not match up with these other 800 00:39:57,346 --> 00:40:00,746 Speaker 2: top prospects. I mean talking about Jayden Daniels ran for 801 00:40:01,026 --> 00:40:03,706 Speaker 2: three thousand yards and threw for twelve thousand yards in 802 00:40:03,746 --> 00:40:06,306 Speaker 2: college football. It's the only player in NFL history to 803 00:40:06,346 --> 00:40:07,546 Speaker 2: do that. You're gonna put him in the same room 804 00:40:07,546 --> 00:40:09,466 Speaker 2: as JJ McCarthy, who against Penn State didn't throw the 805 00:40:09,466 --> 00:40:14,626 Speaker 2: ball in the second half that said ultimate winner. I 806 00:40:14,706 --> 00:40:17,146 Speaker 2: think he's lost three games since middle school is what 807 00:40:17,186 --> 00:40:21,466 Speaker 2: I've heard, which is incredible. And then the crazy part is, 808 00:40:22,106 --> 00:40:24,266 Speaker 2: you know, Harball came out and was like, he's the 809 00:40:24,306 --> 00:40:27,026 Speaker 2: greatest Michigan quarterback to ever play, and that includes Harball, 810 00:40:27,026 --> 00:40:29,666 Speaker 2: includes Brady, includes all these guys. Harball went out and 811 00:40:29,746 --> 00:40:33,226 Speaker 2: said that, so JJ's gonna it sounds like JJ is 812 00:40:33,266 --> 00:40:36,426 Speaker 2: gonna do the workouts and it's gonna throw, and he's 813 00:40:36,426 --> 00:40:37,986 Speaker 2: gonna do all the drills and all that stuff. So 814 00:40:38,506 --> 00:40:40,066 Speaker 2: this is an opportunity for him. I think he's one 815 00:40:40,066 --> 00:40:43,346 Speaker 2: of the rare guys that it's like, okay, apples to 816 00:40:43,426 --> 00:40:45,346 Speaker 2: apples when you're going up against the bow Nicks and 817 00:40:45,466 --> 00:40:47,266 Speaker 2: Michael Pennix, who are gonna be out there and who 818 00:40:47,266 --> 00:40:52,346 Speaker 2: are you know, very decorated throwers of the football, Like 819 00:40:52,466 --> 00:40:54,906 Speaker 2: can you hang? Can you do the same thing. Now, 820 00:40:55,066 --> 00:40:58,626 Speaker 2: the player and the person are all beloved, but when 821 00:40:58,666 --> 00:41:00,306 Speaker 2: you get on the field, like the drills, I think 822 00:41:00,306 --> 00:41:02,506 Speaker 2: that's gonna be really interesting to see how he shapes up. 823 00:41:03,786 --> 00:41:05,546 Speaker 2: And the last one is like who's gonna be your 824 00:41:05,746 --> 00:41:09,306 Speaker 2: your combine and breakout star. Who's the guy that's gonna 825 00:41:09,306 --> 00:41:12,586 Speaker 2: show up and like just absolutely light this thing up. 826 00:41:13,546 --> 00:41:15,946 Speaker 2: I've got a few names. The guy that I'm really 827 00:41:16,026 --> 00:41:19,906 Speaker 2: excited for is actually the Texas wide receiver A. D. Mitchell. Also, 828 00:41:20,386 --> 00:41:22,586 Speaker 2: I think his surname is his full name is I 829 00:41:22,586 --> 00:41:27,226 Speaker 2: don't know, Im Mitchell. The wide receiver class is loaded. 830 00:41:27,866 --> 00:41:30,466 Speaker 2: I love this kid, Ricky pearsall out of Florida, who 831 00:41:30,626 --> 00:41:32,786 Speaker 2: is a transfer from Arizona State who does like one 832 00:41:32,826 --> 00:41:35,506 Speaker 2: handed catches, but Ady Mitchell, I think he's gonna have 833 00:41:35,586 --> 00:41:39,186 Speaker 2: one of these freak combine performances. I think the Washington 834 00:41:39,266 --> 00:41:43,066 Speaker 2: wide receiver rome A. Doon Day is competing, which I love. 835 00:41:43,426 --> 00:41:46,586 Speaker 2: I think Neighbors is not, and I think Marvin Harrison 836 00:41:46,706 --> 00:41:49,666 Speaker 2: is not. So they cross those two off. But very 837 00:41:49,826 --> 00:41:55,586 Speaker 2: deep wide receiver class. That's all Saturday Saturday. The quarterbacks 838 00:41:55,666 --> 00:41:58,826 Speaker 2: are fascinating in that you're not gonna get your top 839 00:41:59,026 --> 00:42:02,426 Speaker 2: two or three I think May also said he's not throwing, 840 00:42:03,026 --> 00:42:08,026 Speaker 2: but Nicks, Pennix, JJ McCarthy, all those guys, Sam Hartman, 841 00:42:08,066 --> 00:42:09,626 Speaker 2: those guys are gonna throw. So you got enough big 842 00:42:09,706 --> 00:42:12,666 Speaker 2: names that you know from the college game, there's always 843 00:42:12,706 --> 00:42:14,666 Speaker 2: gonna be a forty eight yard dashup holods us away, 844 00:42:14,666 --> 00:42:16,586 Speaker 2: There's always gonna be a big man on Thursday night. 845 00:42:16,866 --> 00:42:19,826 Speaker 2: Who's gonna, you know, razzle dazzle us. But I'm most 846 00:42:19,866 --> 00:42:22,426 Speaker 2: excited for the wide receiver group. I think on Saturday, 847 00:42:22,466 --> 00:42:25,066 Speaker 2: and I then circle that name, ad Mitchell. I think 848 00:42:25,146 --> 00:42:27,026 Speaker 2: that guy can burn, and I think he will burn 849 00:42:27,826 --> 00:42:31,106 Speaker 2: when we get out there on Saturday. All right, quick podcast, 850 00:42:31,386 --> 00:42:35,106 Speaker 2: I got a run. I'm headed to Indianapolis again. Aaron, 851 00:42:35,346 --> 00:42:38,306 Speaker 2: I appreciate you doing this, and Jason, I appreciate you 852 00:42:38,346 --> 00:42:41,866 Speaker 2: guys making it around my schedule. Hopefully listeners you enjoy this. 853 00:42:42,146 --> 00:42:44,946 Speaker 2: Trust me. Next week we will do a full download, 854 00:42:45,106 --> 00:42:47,546 Speaker 2: We will give you full draft preview, and we might 855 00:42:47,586 --> 00:42:50,386 Speaker 2: bring on a guest who is there that has maybe 856 00:42:50,426 --> 00:42:53,106 Speaker 2: got front office lens on it that can break it down. 857 00:42:53,946 --> 00:42:56,306 Speaker 2: But I hope you enjoyed the stories from the combine. 858 00:42:56,746 --> 00:42:59,106 Speaker 2: Trying to think if there's anything that will blow you away, 859 00:43:01,826 --> 00:43:04,786 Speaker 2: Sean Payton eat the cocktail sauce. I'm trying to think 860 00:43:04,786 --> 00:43:06,266 Speaker 2: if he ate the horse Raddigs or not, he might 861 00:43:06,306 --> 00:43:08,066 Speaker 2: have stayed away. Actually, I think Sean didn't even have 862 00:43:08,066 --> 00:43:09,506 Speaker 2: a stake. I think he's down on the way. He's 863 00:43:09,546 --> 00:43:11,986 Speaker 2: looking good. Andy went for it. Andy went with the fries. 864 00:43:12,026 --> 00:43:15,106 Speaker 2: I think Sean had multiple salads in a soup, an 865 00:43:15,106 --> 00:43:18,906 Speaker 2: interesting order. I'm heading back to Indianapols. I'll see all 866 00:43:18,906 --> 00:43:20,786 Speaker 2: these guys again and I'll have more stories. But for 867 00:43:20,906 --> 00:43:24,026 Speaker 2: the Season with Peter Schreger, Chason English, Aaron Wan Kaufman. 868 00:43:24,546 --> 00:43:27,226 Speaker 2: Love you listeners, Thanks for listening, all right, I'm to Indy. 869 00:43:35,826 --> 00:43:38,506 Speaker 1: The Season with Peter Schrager is a production of the 870 00:43:38,706 --> 00:43:42,666 Speaker 1: NFL in partnership with iHeartRadio. For more podcasts from iHeartRadio, 871 00:43:42,746 --> 00:43:47,586 Speaker 1: visit the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, wherever you get your podcasts.