1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:03,400 Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of the Clay Travis and Buck 2 00:00:03,440 --> 00:00:04,720 Speaker 1: Sexton Show podcast. 3 00:00:05,640 --> 00:00:08,440 Speaker 2: Welcome back in Clay Travis buck Sexton Show. Appreciate all 4 00:00:08,520 --> 00:00:11,280 Speaker 2: of you hanging out with us on this fantastic Monday. 5 00:00:11,400 --> 00:00:13,520 Speaker 2: Encourage you to go subscribe to the podcast. You start 6 00:00:13,600 --> 00:00:16,000 Speaker 2: out my name Clay Travis. You can search out buck Sexton. 7 00:00:16,840 --> 00:00:19,480 Speaker 2: You can you look up Carol Markowitz and Tutor Dixon, 8 00:00:19,480 --> 00:00:21,560 Speaker 2: who are part of the Clay Travis buck Sexton Network. 9 00:00:21,640 --> 00:00:23,320 Speaker 2: You type in any of those names boom, you can 10 00:00:23,360 --> 00:00:26,560 Speaker 2: go subscribe. 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The 21 00:00:52,240 --> 00:00:57,000 Speaker 2: nine people who are running for the house speaker, although 22 00:00:57,640 --> 00:01:00,520 Speaker 2: I bet there's not a single person listen to us 23 00:01:00,600 --> 00:01:04,600 Speaker 2: right now that can name all nine with the state 24 00:01:04,680 --> 00:01:08,199 Speaker 2: that they represent, because there are a lot of people 25 00:01:08,280 --> 00:01:11,400 Speaker 2: out there in this race that are not very well 26 00:01:11,440 --> 00:01:13,759 Speaker 2: known at all. But we've been talking a lot about 27 00:01:13,800 --> 00:01:16,960 Speaker 2: Israel Gaza and the storyline that falls out of this, 28 00:01:17,200 --> 00:01:18,360 Speaker 2: and Buck, I. 29 00:01:18,319 --> 00:01:20,680 Speaker 1: Wanted to hit you with this. Have you seen this poll. 30 00:01:20,760 --> 00:01:26,679 Speaker 2: Which breaks down responses for age groups as to whether 31 00:01:26,920 --> 00:01:31,920 Speaker 2: or not the Palestinians. Here's the question, do you think 32 00:01:32,080 --> 00:01:38,240 Speaker 2: Hamasa's killing of twelve hundred Israeli civilians can be justified 33 00:01:38,360 --> 00:01:42,479 Speaker 2: by the grievances of Palestinians or is it not justified? 34 00:01:44,560 --> 00:01:48,360 Speaker 2: Eighteen to twenty four year olds say it can be justified. 35 00:01:50,120 --> 00:01:51,000 Speaker 1: What were the numbers? 36 00:01:51,960 --> 00:01:57,080 Speaker 2: The fifty three fifty one to forty nine eighteen to 37 00:01:57,160 --> 00:02:00,760 Speaker 2: twenty four year old say it can be justified. Wide, 38 00:02:01,360 --> 00:02:04,960 Speaker 2: seventy six percent say it cannot. Twenty four percent say 39 00:02:05,000 --> 00:02:07,920 Speaker 2: it can. Now that's a big number that says it cannot. 40 00:02:08,400 --> 00:02:11,800 Speaker 2: But what's interesting to me is those who are sixty 41 00:02:11,840 --> 00:02:17,040 Speaker 2: five and up ninety one percent say not justified, nine 42 00:02:17,120 --> 00:02:22,239 Speaker 2: percent say it can. Eighteen to twenty four year olds, Basically, 43 00:02:22,280 --> 00:02:25,840 Speaker 2: if you're under thirty four, it's nearly a fifty to 44 00:02:25,919 --> 00:02:30,080 Speaker 2: fifty proposition. According to this poll that is being widely 45 00:02:30,120 --> 00:02:33,800 Speaker 2: circulated right now on social media, and there is a 46 00:02:34,400 --> 00:02:37,640 Speaker 2: there is obviously an age correlation here. If you're over 47 00:02:37,760 --> 00:02:42,080 Speaker 2: thirty five, overwhelming majorities say it can't be justified. I 48 00:02:42,120 --> 00:02:45,160 Speaker 2: do think it's worthy, and this ties in buck with 49 00:02:45,240 --> 00:02:48,519 Speaker 2: the responses that we've seen on so many college campuses 50 00:02:48,560 --> 00:02:51,760 Speaker 2: and of so many young people that we have talked 51 00:02:51,800 --> 00:02:55,760 Speaker 2: about the question that I think America should be asking, 52 00:02:56,639 --> 00:02:58,959 Speaker 2: and I think it's a really good one, is how 53 00:02:58,960 --> 00:03:01,960 Speaker 2: do we get to a place where so many young 54 00:03:02,040 --> 00:03:06,600 Speaker 2: people are willing to justify what Hamas did based on 55 00:03:06,840 --> 00:03:09,919 Speaker 2: the worldview that they have had inculcated in them of 56 00:03:10,200 --> 00:03:12,840 Speaker 2: who's good, who's evil, who's a colonizer, who is a 57 00:03:13,320 --> 00:03:17,120 Speaker 2: who is being colonized. I think it's pure political tribalism 58 00:03:17,400 --> 00:03:22,800 Speaker 2: and denihialism, if you will, that the tribalism being the 59 00:03:22,840 --> 00:03:28,960 Speaker 2: people who think of themselves as consistently aligned with the underdog, 60 00:03:29,160 --> 00:03:32,919 Speaker 2: the people who think that they are good people because 61 00:03:33,000 --> 00:03:37,280 Speaker 2: they support the oppressed, whether it's via BLM or you know, 62 00:03:37,360 --> 00:03:41,800 Speaker 2: Indigenous People's Day or any number of left wing LGBTQ 63 00:03:41,920 --> 00:03:47,839 Speaker 2: plus trans ideology. They think of the Palestinians as right 64 00:03:47,880 --> 00:03:51,840 Speaker 2: alongside that, and so there's a reflexive I mean, if 65 00:03:51,880 --> 00:03:54,960 Speaker 2: if you were to look play at support for you know, 66 00:03:55,040 --> 00:03:57,600 Speaker 2: support is such a vague, were vague term. But people 67 00:03:57,600 --> 00:04:00,880 Speaker 2: that are ideologically deeply. 68 00:04:00,520 --> 00:04:05,800 Speaker 3: Aligned with Palestine or the Palestinians and all these other 69 00:04:05,880 --> 00:04:08,840 Speaker 3: left wing issues, the correlation is going to be almost 70 00:04:08,840 --> 00:04:11,200 Speaker 3: one hundred percent, right, I mean, you're going to see clear, 71 00:04:11,800 --> 00:04:14,960 Speaker 3: you know that that left wing reality playing out and 72 00:04:15,080 --> 00:04:18,920 Speaker 3: so on the college campuses and for young people in particular, 73 00:04:19,760 --> 00:04:25,240 Speaker 3: their their response on this is reflexive. But the cognitive 74 00:04:25,279 --> 00:04:29,320 Speaker 3: dissonance which we'd mentioned before, which is holding two incongruent, 75 00:04:30,040 --> 00:04:32,160 Speaker 3: you know, ideas at the same time in your head. 76 00:04:32,360 --> 00:04:36,320 Speaker 3: The cognitive dissonance here is the Palestinians are the are 77 00:04:36,360 --> 00:04:40,760 Speaker 3: the oppressed, and they're the victims. Ultimately, they are the victims. 78 00:04:40,760 --> 00:04:43,960 Speaker 3: That's the mentality. Oh but look what just happened. They 79 00:04:44,160 --> 00:04:47,400 Speaker 3: just via Hamas victimized over fourteen hundred is Raeli's in 80 00:04:47,440 --> 00:04:48,520 Speaker 3: the most heinous. 81 00:04:48,200 --> 00:04:50,240 Speaker 1: Graphic, brutal, and barbaric way. 82 00:04:50,960 --> 00:04:54,719 Speaker 3: So that's why there's the oh, that can't be real 83 00:04:55,080 --> 00:04:58,240 Speaker 3: right now, that's why that this is the reason for 84 00:04:58,320 --> 00:05:01,479 Speaker 3: the denial is that a it's impossible to hold their 85 00:05:01,520 --> 00:05:05,480 Speaker 3: core belief on the left of the Palestinians. 86 00:05:04,960 --> 00:05:05,640 Speaker 1: Are the victims. 87 00:05:05,920 --> 00:05:08,640 Speaker 3: But look at the mass victimization they just engaged in 88 00:05:08,839 --> 00:05:11,880 Speaker 3: without I mean to say, without provocation, as it goes 89 00:05:11,920 --> 00:05:14,080 Speaker 3: without saying, there's no such thing you could do that 90 00:05:14,120 --> 00:05:18,039 Speaker 3: would ever provoke somebody or justify such a heinous act. 91 00:05:18,040 --> 00:05:22,200 Speaker 3: I mean, it was the most evil thing imaginable. So 92 00:05:22,240 --> 00:05:24,400 Speaker 3: that's where I think you see that the young people 93 00:05:24,400 --> 00:05:26,880 Speaker 3: on the campuses are brainwashed on these issues. I really 94 00:05:26,880 --> 00:05:31,040 Speaker 3: do think it is a brainwashing. And for those who 95 00:05:31,120 --> 00:05:33,880 Speaker 3: have at least some connection to reality Clay still, who 96 00:05:33,920 --> 00:05:39,320 Speaker 3: still have some sense of us of moral decency, I 97 00:05:39,360 --> 00:05:43,800 Speaker 3: really feel that the cause of the Palestinians, at least 98 00:05:43,839 --> 00:05:46,160 Speaker 3: as it's viewed in this country and viewed by a 99 00:05:46,240 --> 00:05:48,599 Speaker 3: large portion of the world, is never really going to 100 00:05:48,600 --> 00:05:51,520 Speaker 3: be the same after this. I do think that a 101 00:05:51,600 --> 00:05:53,720 Speaker 3: Rubican and I know there were sewers. There have been 102 00:05:53,760 --> 00:05:57,480 Speaker 3: suicide bombings, and I mean Hamas and Palestinian Islamic Jihad 103 00:05:57,520 --> 00:06:00,000 Speaker 3: and the Alaxa Martyrs Brigades and all these different groups. 104 00:06:00,279 --> 00:06:02,080 Speaker 1: They have done horrific things for. 105 00:06:02,120 --> 00:06:07,240 Speaker 3: Decades, but this was another level and I think it 106 00:06:07,279 --> 00:06:10,720 Speaker 3: has changed perception in a way that there's a fear 107 00:06:10,720 --> 00:06:14,559 Speaker 3: that these people are now on the pro Palestinian side. 108 00:06:15,040 --> 00:06:17,160 Speaker 3: They're on the wrong side of history. They just won't 109 00:06:17,200 --> 00:06:18,279 Speaker 3: accept that yet. 110 00:06:19,120 --> 00:06:23,000 Speaker 2: I also think when I look at this age breakdown again, 111 00:06:23,160 --> 00:06:28,040 Speaker 2: sixty five and up, ninety one percent of Americans say 112 00:06:28,400 --> 00:06:31,400 Speaker 2: there's absolutely no justification. Now we can probably think of 113 00:06:31,440 --> 00:06:33,479 Speaker 2: who that nine percent is. It's the kind of people 114 00:06:33,480 --> 00:06:38,000 Speaker 2: who have tenure and serve on faculties and convince themselves 115 00:06:38,040 --> 00:06:38,880 Speaker 2: that American. 116 00:06:38,560 --> 00:06:41,680 Speaker 3: People who are deeply anti Semitic as well, truly deeply 117 00:06:41,680 --> 00:06:43,800 Speaker 3: anti truly. That's a good point as well. 118 00:06:43,920 --> 00:06:47,920 Speaker 2: Okay, So with that in mind, I also think it's 119 00:06:47,920 --> 00:06:51,520 Speaker 2: a function of if you are older in this country, 120 00:06:51,560 --> 00:06:55,200 Speaker 2: you have more experience with the idea of evil. 121 00:06:55,960 --> 00:06:57,560 Speaker 1: And I think this is important. 122 00:06:58,440 --> 00:07:03,240 Speaker 2: We have an entire cop old generation of American kids, 123 00:07:04,000 --> 00:07:05,760 Speaker 2: and I bet this is starting to happen to you 124 00:07:05,880 --> 00:07:09,720 Speaker 2: now too, Buck, where you go out with grown adults 125 00:07:10,120 --> 00:07:12,920 Speaker 2: and they have no recollection of nine to eleven ever happening. 126 00:07:14,160 --> 00:07:16,720 Speaker 2: If you are twenty two years old, then you are 127 00:07:16,760 --> 00:07:19,080 Speaker 2: on a college campus right now, and you're even a senior, 128 00:07:20,720 --> 00:07:23,760 Speaker 2: what have you actually seen in the United States. That's evil, 129 00:07:24,920 --> 00:07:31,680 Speaker 2: I mean really profoundly awful in your life, you might joint. 130 00:07:32,080 --> 00:07:34,480 Speaker 3: I could answer that question, yeah, but it would sound 131 00:07:34,520 --> 00:07:37,680 Speaker 3: like I was trying to be glib or yeah, you know, 132 00:07:37,760 --> 00:07:41,560 Speaker 3: preposterous because what they view as truly awful. You know, 133 00:07:41,600 --> 00:07:44,080 Speaker 3: these generations that haven't or the generation that hasn't experienced 134 00:07:44,080 --> 00:07:46,360 Speaker 3: that is what they're told of you is truly awful, 135 00:07:46,360 --> 00:07:49,560 Speaker 3: which is remember Clay, they'll use terms like the genocide 136 00:07:49,600 --> 00:07:53,040 Speaker 3: of the trans community because people use the wrong pronouns. 137 00:07:53,320 --> 00:07:59,160 Speaker 3: And that's I think it's so important about this, right. 138 00:07:59,200 --> 00:08:02,120 Speaker 3: I mean, they're they're sense of their sense of evil 139 00:08:02,720 --> 00:08:06,600 Speaker 3: has been deeply distorted such that what they view as 140 00:08:06,680 --> 00:08:10,000 Speaker 3: evil is actually either an inversion of reality or a 141 00:08:10,040 --> 00:08:13,560 Speaker 3: political you know, a political dispute. And what is truly 142 00:08:14,080 --> 00:08:18,880 Speaker 3: obviously evil and the existence thereof they have. It's not 143 00:08:18,920 --> 00:08:22,960 Speaker 3: just a difficulty in recognizing it. I think philosophically they 144 00:08:23,320 --> 00:08:26,800 Speaker 3: can't handle it because remember they've been told all along 145 00:08:27,600 --> 00:08:32,000 Speaker 3: the foundational belief of the left is a moral well, 146 00:08:32,040 --> 00:08:35,160 Speaker 3: it's there is no God and there is total moral relativism, 147 00:08:35,400 --> 00:08:37,480 Speaker 3: and that everything is just power dynamics. And this is 148 00:08:37,480 --> 00:08:41,200 Speaker 3: why people say it's all. It's related into Marxism and 149 00:08:41,240 --> 00:08:43,440 Speaker 3: some of the evils of Marxist theory. It's just all 150 00:08:43,480 --> 00:08:46,680 Speaker 3: about exploitation and people getting what they can for themselves 151 00:08:46,760 --> 00:08:50,840 Speaker 3: and oppressing others. There's nothing greater. There's no universal truth 152 00:08:50,880 --> 00:08:54,800 Speaker 3: in the universal morality, and that works for a lot 153 00:08:54,840 --> 00:08:56,439 Speaker 3: of things for them, right. I mean, when you're talking 154 00:08:56,440 --> 00:09:00,560 Speaker 3: about you know, the transports team things, you know, oh, well, 155 00:09:00,600 --> 00:09:02,760 Speaker 3: you know we've changed five minutes ago. We knew this 156 00:09:02,800 --> 00:09:05,720 Speaker 3: was crazy, but now it's on an issue like this though. 157 00:09:05,800 --> 00:09:10,960 Speaker 3: It's such a The attack on Israel is such an 158 00:09:11,040 --> 00:09:15,000 Speaker 3: affront to basic humanity. It's such an assault on civilization. 159 00:09:15,200 --> 00:09:19,840 Speaker 3: It's such a clear act of the worst barbarism, and 160 00:09:19,960 --> 00:09:23,800 Speaker 3: evil is the most appropriate term for it. I think 161 00:09:23,800 --> 00:09:27,840 Speaker 3: it's hard for the minds of true believing leftists to 162 00:09:28,040 --> 00:09:32,440 Speaker 3: understand that there really is something that is that clear cut, 163 00:09:32,960 --> 00:09:35,240 Speaker 3: that that evil. You know, that the good guys and 164 00:09:35,280 --> 00:09:38,400 Speaker 3: the bad guys can be that distinct, because if it's 165 00:09:38,440 --> 00:09:40,440 Speaker 3: true on that, it might be true on other issues 166 00:09:40,480 --> 00:09:41,800 Speaker 3: as well that they haven't considered. 167 00:09:42,200 --> 00:09:44,319 Speaker 2: I think this is so important, and I think this 168 00:09:44,360 --> 00:09:48,720 Speaker 2: is for parents and grandparents out there who have young kids, 169 00:09:48,760 --> 00:09:51,960 Speaker 2: and I think about this obviously, because I've got three 170 00:09:52,040 --> 00:09:55,720 Speaker 2: fifteen or younger. They haven't ever actually seen evil, Buck. 171 00:09:57,040 --> 00:10:00,560 Speaker 2: They have been told that opinions that they they don't 172 00:10:00,679 --> 00:10:04,360 Speaker 2: like our evil, or that presidents that they don't like 173 00:10:04,800 --> 00:10:10,760 Speaker 2: are Nazis, but they haven't really seen the slaughter of 174 00:10:10,920 --> 00:10:15,800 Speaker 2: innocence on a scale like we saw in Israel. And 175 00:10:15,920 --> 00:10:19,880 Speaker 2: so when your entire world, buck has been created around 176 00:10:19,920 --> 00:10:21,240 Speaker 2: the concept. 177 00:10:20,800 --> 00:10:23,559 Speaker 1: Of world's words are are. 178 00:10:23,559 --> 00:10:29,120 Speaker 2: Evil, silence is violence, you don't have the ability to 179 00:10:29,280 --> 00:10:33,840 Speaker 2: even comprehend true evil and you can't identify it as such. 180 00:10:33,880 --> 00:10:36,360 Speaker 2: And I think part of it's probably an abandonment of religion, 181 00:10:36,960 --> 00:10:40,480 Speaker 2: because religion does teach, and I think this is perfect 182 00:10:40,520 --> 00:10:43,040 Speaker 2: example of that that there is true good and evil 183 00:10:43,040 --> 00:10:46,120 Speaker 2: in the United in the world, but there hasn't actually 184 00:10:46,120 --> 00:10:50,480 Speaker 2: been evil on a broad scale in the United States 185 00:10:50,520 --> 00:10:54,000 Speaker 2: perpetrated like this. You've had individual actors, right who might 186 00:10:54,040 --> 00:10:56,120 Speaker 2: go out and take a gun to a Walmart or 187 00:10:56,200 --> 00:10:57,000 Speaker 2: something like that. 188 00:10:57,400 --> 00:10:59,960 Speaker 3: You know, to your point about the recognition of evil 189 00:11:00,120 --> 00:11:02,520 Speaker 3: and the and the ability of the left and the 190 00:11:02,640 --> 00:11:05,400 Speaker 3: call it the politically fashionable left, which the you know, 191 00:11:05,440 --> 00:11:08,600 Speaker 3: young in this country unfortunately are very much you know, 192 00:11:08,679 --> 00:11:12,640 Speaker 3: seduced by the political fashions of the left in the moment. 193 00:11:13,160 --> 00:11:17,040 Speaker 3: Look at the clarity with which they will in their 194 00:11:17,120 --> 00:11:21,040 Speaker 3: minds address the issue of Ukraine and Russia. Where yes, 195 00:11:21,200 --> 00:11:23,600 Speaker 3: Russia is and look, Russia is an aggressor in the 196 00:11:23,600 --> 00:11:26,000 Speaker 3: wrong here. But they they can see Russia as the 197 00:11:26,040 --> 00:11:30,120 Speaker 3: monstrous evil because they've been they've been told to and 198 00:11:30,880 --> 00:11:36,640 Speaker 3: instead of approaching this with the same understanding, because it's 199 00:11:36,640 --> 00:11:38,800 Speaker 3: not innate to them, it's whatever the orders are from 200 00:11:38,800 --> 00:11:42,600 Speaker 3: on high right, it's whatever the hive mind decides. With 201 00:11:42,800 --> 00:11:47,840 Speaker 3: Hamas and Israel, it should be even easier after an incident, 202 00:11:48,000 --> 00:11:51,200 Speaker 3: like infinitely easier than Ukraine and Russia to pick the 203 00:11:51,200 --> 00:11:55,040 Speaker 3: bat side. And you know, Ukraine and Russia, there's a 204 00:11:55,040 --> 00:11:57,960 Speaker 3: whole lot of conversation that, you know, we could have about. 205 00:11:58,320 --> 00:12:01,400 Speaker 2: It's also too bad white guys, I'll point out, because 206 00:12:01,440 --> 00:12:03,400 Speaker 2: so much of this is a racial characterization. 207 00:12:04,120 --> 00:12:08,440 Speaker 3: Yes, and that's why I mean, you've seen with with 208 00:12:08,480 --> 00:12:10,800 Speaker 3: some of the BLM groups, et cetera in this in 209 00:12:10,840 --> 00:12:15,120 Speaker 3: this country, they immediately view this conflict through a anti 210 00:12:15,120 --> 00:12:19,080 Speaker 3: colonial and racial lens. And let's be clear, anti colonialism 211 00:12:19,200 --> 00:12:21,880 Speaker 3: is all about racism. That's the whole point is that 212 00:12:22,320 --> 00:12:25,080 Speaker 3: starting at the age of exploration and you know, roughly 213 00:12:25,320 --> 00:12:27,280 Speaker 3: you know, well, fourteen ninety two, but I was gonna 214 00:12:27,280 --> 00:12:31,760 Speaker 3: say roughly the fifteen hundreds onwards, there were Western European 215 00:12:31,800 --> 00:12:35,040 Speaker 3: countries that were colonizing non white countries around the world. 216 00:12:35,120 --> 00:12:41,160 Speaker 3: So anti colonialism is at its core a racial issue, 217 00:12:41,880 --> 00:12:44,599 Speaker 3: and so these things all get mixed in together in 218 00:12:44,640 --> 00:12:45,679 Speaker 3: the view of the left. 219 00:12:45,720 --> 00:12:49,319 Speaker 1: But Clay that it's a it's a wake up call. 220 00:12:49,360 --> 00:12:52,280 Speaker 3: And I actually you've been saying you think that people 221 00:12:52,360 --> 00:12:55,319 Speaker 3: have been you know, red pilled a bit on this issue. 222 00:12:55,840 --> 00:12:58,640 Speaker 3: I am seeing more evidence of that with the days 223 00:12:58,679 --> 00:13:01,000 Speaker 3: going by. I don't know how it will affect let's say, 224 00:13:01,000 --> 00:13:02,960 Speaker 3: twenty twenty four. I don't think it might be critical 225 00:13:03,000 --> 00:13:06,800 Speaker 3: mass like that, but it is happening, and I get 226 00:13:06,800 --> 00:13:09,839 Speaker 3: people reaching out to me. I have Jewish neighbors who 227 00:13:09,840 --> 00:13:11,800 Speaker 3: have told me they feel safe for knowing that I'm 228 00:13:12,000 --> 00:13:15,840 Speaker 3: nearby and armed. For example, you know, it actually happened 229 00:13:15,880 --> 00:13:17,240 Speaker 3: to me. I was like, Oh, I'm glad you're here. 230 00:13:17,280 --> 00:13:19,320 Speaker 3: You've been trained, and I know you know, you believe 231 00:13:19,360 --> 00:13:20,960 Speaker 3: in the Second Amendment to our neighborhood. 232 00:13:21,080 --> 00:13:22,479 Speaker 1: I mean, think about the level. 233 00:13:22,240 --> 00:13:27,880 Speaker 3: Of of of anxiety that that Jewish people in this 234 00:13:27,920 --> 00:13:30,600 Speaker 3: country right now feel, first of all, the heartbreak of 235 00:13:30,600 --> 00:13:33,000 Speaker 3: what happened to their Jewish brothers and sisters in Israel. 236 00:13:33,240 --> 00:13:36,520 Speaker 3: But beyond that, you were just talking about possible infiltration, 237 00:13:36,559 --> 00:13:39,000 Speaker 3: I mean the possibility of this happening here and the 238 00:13:39,360 --> 00:13:42,320 Speaker 3: sense that there's a lack of security because of all 239 00:13:42,400 --> 00:13:45,640 Speaker 3: the anti Semitism out there. You know, this is going 240 00:13:45,720 --> 00:13:47,240 Speaker 3: to be a fight. We're in for a long time. 241 00:13:47,840 --> 00:13:49,280 Speaker 1: Buck. If you have kids. 242 00:13:50,600 --> 00:13:53,040 Speaker 2: And you are Jewish right now and you have had 243 00:13:53,080 --> 00:13:58,600 Speaker 2: to see what Hamas did to those innocent Jewish kids, 244 00:14:00,840 --> 00:14:02,959 Speaker 2: I would imagine. I mean, it's hard for me to 245 00:14:03,000 --> 00:14:04,920 Speaker 2: see it. And obviously I'm not Jewish. I don't have 246 00:14:04,960 --> 00:14:08,160 Speaker 2: a direct connection to that. Where someone is being killed 247 00:14:08,640 --> 00:14:12,880 Speaker 2: because of who they are directly targeted by terrorists, because 248 00:14:12,880 --> 00:14:15,320 Speaker 2: of who they are, their religious faith, things that they 249 00:14:15,320 --> 00:14:18,520 Speaker 2: don't have any control over at all, what ethnicity they 250 00:14:18,559 --> 00:14:23,080 Speaker 2: happen to be, in a real targeted manner, and you're 251 00:14:23,120 --> 00:14:26,880 Speaker 2: hearing those same people say, and we have to do 252 00:14:26,960 --> 00:14:28,880 Speaker 2: this again, or we're going to have a day of 253 00:14:28,960 --> 00:14:33,400 Speaker 2: vengeance or a day of violence. I would imagine when 254 00:14:33,440 --> 00:14:36,520 Speaker 2: you are dropping your kids off at school, or daycare, 255 00:14:36,600 --> 00:14:40,400 Speaker 2: wherever you start your day, there is a sick feeling 256 00:14:40,480 --> 00:14:44,280 Speaker 2: in the pit of your stomach where you think to yourself, 257 00:14:44,680 --> 00:14:47,920 Speaker 2: even though you realize the statistical anomaly that it might be, 258 00:14:48,720 --> 00:14:51,760 Speaker 2: is this the day that a terror group comes after 259 00:14:51,960 --> 00:14:55,160 Speaker 2: my kids and tries to do to them what they 260 00:14:55,200 --> 00:14:57,360 Speaker 2: did to all those kids in Israel. I think that's 261 00:14:57,400 --> 00:14:59,520 Speaker 2: a very real feeling in the pit of your stomach, 262 00:15:00,000 --> 00:15:03,360 Speaker 2: basic human emotion. I don't know how you couldn't feel 263 00:15:03,400 --> 00:15:06,800 Speaker 2: that way, and to see people out there justifying it. 264 00:15:07,400 --> 00:15:10,480 Speaker 2: If you have been voting on the left, I don't 265 00:15:10,800 --> 00:15:14,320 Speaker 2: see how you couldn't have a moment of moral reckoning 266 00:15:14,680 --> 00:15:16,680 Speaker 2: where you sit around and think, I thought we were 267 00:15:16,720 --> 00:15:19,360 Speaker 2: all on the same side, and now you're defending the 268 00:15:19,360 --> 00:15:23,000 Speaker 2: people who are murdering me because of my ethnicity. I 269 00:15:23,040 --> 00:15:26,120 Speaker 2: can't imagine that members of our armed forces are one 270 00:15:26,200 --> 00:15:29,840 Speaker 2: hundred percent volunteers. They choose their roles to protect our freedoms, 271 00:15:29,880 --> 00:15:33,640 Speaker 2: prepare themselves for paeriless duty if required. 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But you know Nut Gingrich weighing in 304 00:17:11,520 --> 00:17:15,239 Speaker 3: on this in the Speaker's Battle. There's a lot that 305 00:17:15,320 --> 00:17:18,119 Speaker 3: people are seeing, I think play out here that is 306 00:17:18,160 --> 00:17:21,120 Speaker 3: not particularly helpful to Republicans. I would just say play 307 00:17:21,200 --> 00:17:24,120 Speaker 3: for me at this point. The good news is that 308 00:17:24,240 --> 00:17:26,800 Speaker 3: it's far enough away from the election that I think 309 00:17:27,000 --> 00:17:29,600 Speaker 3: I don't think anyone's really going to care. That's if 310 00:17:29,640 --> 00:17:31,920 Speaker 3: I'm looking for a silver lining here. 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Secret Royalty Program 338 00:18:55,920 --> 00:18:58,439 Speaker 3: dot Com paid for by wide Mote Research. 339 00:18:58,480 --> 00:19:01,919 Speaker 2: Welcome back in Clay Travis Sexton Show and Buck and 340 00:19:01,920 --> 00:19:03,119 Speaker 2: I were just talking a little bit off air, and 341 00:19:03,160 --> 00:19:04,479 Speaker 2: I've got a cliff I'm going to play for you 342 00:19:04,520 --> 00:19:07,280 Speaker 2: from Kari Jean Pierre in a moment continuing the conversation 343 00:19:07,320 --> 00:19:10,399 Speaker 2: that we were having about how many young people just 344 00:19:10,440 --> 00:19:12,520 Speaker 2: don't have a comprehension in the United States of what 345 00:19:12,640 --> 00:19:16,480 Speaker 2: true evil is because they've been conditioned to believe that 346 00:19:17,080 --> 00:19:20,200 Speaker 2: Nazis are people who post memes that you disagree with 347 00:19:20,280 --> 00:19:24,760 Speaker 2: on Twitter, not the people who actually gasped humans to death. 348 00:19:25,680 --> 00:19:30,680 Speaker 2: And they don't have the intellectual processes developed because they're 349 00:19:30,760 --> 00:19:35,400 Speaker 2: still young to understand as you're hearing some of these horrible, 350 00:19:36,040 --> 00:19:41,640 Speaker 2: violent depredations that were inflicted upon Jewish people. If you've 351 00:19:41,640 --> 00:19:46,879 Speaker 2: been raised to believe that Donald Trump's opinion on American 352 00:19:46,960 --> 00:19:52,719 Speaker 2: immigration policies are racist and Nazi like, it's almost like 353 00:19:52,760 --> 00:19:58,080 Speaker 2: you can't comprehend that you just witnessed an actual Nazi 354 00:19:58,080 --> 00:20:01,800 Speaker 2: like attack, and so so as a result, you're so 355 00:20:02,000 --> 00:20:06,720 Speaker 2: conditioned to words are violent. Silence is violence that you 356 00:20:06,840 --> 00:20:10,959 Speaker 2: lack the functional tools to understand when, for instance, a 357 00:20:11,080 --> 00:20:16,120 Speaker 2: Jewish pregnant woman, as has been reported, is murdered, her 358 00:20:16,200 --> 00:20:19,760 Speaker 2: belly is cut open, the child inside of her who 359 00:20:19,840 --> 00:20:23,679 Speaker 2: was near birth is murdered as well, and it's all 360 00:20:24,119 --> 00:20:29,560 Speaker 2: used as Hamas propaganda. That is evil on a scale 361 00:20:30,280 --> 00:20:34,160 Speaker 2: that most people in America can never comprehend. Now, individual 362 00:20:34,320 --> 00:20:37,720 Speaker 2: actors can behave in an evil way. Somebody might show 363 00:20:37,800 --> 00:20:40,000 Speaker 2: up at the Walmart with a gun, somebody might walk 364 00:20:40,040 --> 00:20:43,720 Speaker 2: into a school and kill people, but it isn't under 365 00:20:43,880 --> 00:20:48,760 Speaker 2: the guise of I'm doing this for terrorist reasons. By 366 00:20:48,800 --> 00:20:53,360 Speaker 2: and large, it's just one psychotic person. And so they 367 00:20:53,400 --> 00:20:55,440 Speaker 2: don't many of these kids. We're talking about this poll 368 00:20:55,520 --> 00:20:58,520 Speaker 2: that says, oh, was it justified. 369 00:20:58,080 --> 00:20:58,840 Speaker 1: What was going on? 370 00:20:59,400 --> 00:21:04,760 Speaker 2: They've so bought into their worldview that they can't comprehend 371 00:21:04,800 --> 00:21:10,720 Speaker 2: a world where people that they identify as colonizers could 372 00:21:10,800 --> 00:21:13,959 Speaker 2: be in any way the victim, because the poor brown 373 00:21:13,960 --> 00:21:18,000 Speaker 2: people from Palestine are the people who are being oppressed, 374 00:21:19,200 --> 00:21:23,280 Speaker 2: and therefore anything they do that attacks Jews conflicts with 375 00:21:23,359 --> 00:21:28,280 Speaker 2: their worldview. And again I think it's even happening. It's 376 00:21:28,280 --> 00:21:31,480 Speaker 2: not just kids and your grandkids out there again, half 377 00:21:31,520 --> 00:21:34,480 Speaker 2: of them. Basically, there are many that would still recognize 378 00:21:34,480 --> 00:21:36,919 Speaker 2: how awful this is. But listen to this that just 379 00:21:36,960 --> 00:21:40,200 Speaker 2: happened in the White House. Karine Jean Pierre is asked 380 00:21:40,240 --> 00:21:44,840 Speaker 2: about actions of anti Semitism that are occurring in the country, 381 00:21:45,320 --> 00:21:48,080 Speaker 2: and I haven't even heard this yet. She pivots the 382 00:21:48,160 --> 00:21:51,760 Speaker 2: question to talk about how Muslim people are being treated unfairly. 383 00:21:51,880 --> 00:21:53,160 Speaker 1: Listen, we have not. 384 00:21:53,320 --> 00:21:56,719 Speaker 4: Seen any credible threats. I know there's been always questions 385 00:21:56,720 --> 00:21:59,680 Speaker 4: about credible threats, and so just want to make sure 386 00:21:59,680 --> 00:22:02,320 Speaker 4: that that's out there. But look, Muslim and those perceived 387 00:22:02,480 --> 00:22:05,520 Speaker 4: to be Muslim have endured a disproportionate number of hate 388 00:22:05,520 --> 00:22:08,840 Speaker 4: fueled attack and certainly President Biden understands that many of 389 00:22:08,840 --> 00:22:12,560 Speaker 4: our Muslim Arab Arab Americans and Palestine American loved ones 390 00:22:12,680 --> 00:22:15,679 Speaker 4: and neighbors are worried about the hate being directed at 391 00:22:15,680 --> 00:22:17,919 Speaker 4: their communities. And that is something you heard the President 392 00:22:17,960 --> 00:22:23,040 Speaker 4: speak to in his address just last last Thursday. And 393 00:22:23,119 --> 00:22:25,040 Speaker 4: so one of the things that the President has done 394 00:22:25,080 --> 00:22:29,200 Speaker 4: is directed his team, Homeland Security team to prioritize prevention 395 00:22:29,760 --> 00:22:33,160 Speaker 4: and disruption of any emerging threats that could harm the Jewish, 396 00:22:33,200 --> 00:22:35,280 Speaker 4: the Muslim, Ab Americans, or. 397 00:22:35,320 --> 00:22:36,399 Speaker 3: Any other communities. 398 00:22:37,280 --> 00:22:38,760 Speaker 1: Okay, so Buck, what happened there. 399 00:22:38,800 --> 00:22:40,960 Speaker 2: We didn't hear the first question, but she was specifically 400 00:22:41,040 --> 00:22:43,760 Speaker 2: asked about issues of anti Semitism that might be occurring 401 00:22:43,800 --> 00:22:49,480 Speaker 2: in the United States immediately pivots to talk about Islamophobia, 402 00:22:49,760 --> 00:22:53,159 Speaker 2: which is what Joe Biden tweeted about today. This is 403 00:22:53,800 --> 00:22:58,800 Speaker 2: an example of an inability to I think, understand good 404 00:22:58,880 --> 00:23:00,520 Speaker 2: and evil and where we are right now. 405 00:23:00,800 --> 00:23:06,320 Speaker 3: Well, it's meant to be something that appeals to the 406 00:23:06,400 --> 00:23:11,119 Speaker 3: far left and anti Semitic and anti Israel component of 407 00:23:11,200 --> 00:23:14,800 Speaker 3: the Democrat Party who still want to believe that they 408 00:23:14,920 --> 00:23:18,720 Speaker 3: are the victims in this, and or depending on who 409 00:23:18,720 --> 00:23:23,160 Speaker 3: we're talking about, that it is Muslims and Muslim Palestinians 410 00:23:23,160 --> 00:23:25,400 Speaker 3: specifically who are the victims of this. As I mentioned, 411 00:23:25,400 --> 00:23:29,480 Speaker 3: there's actually a fair number of Christian Palestinians as well, 412 00:23:29,520 --> 00:23:33,640 Speaker 3: which doesn't really very often get talked about. And there 413 00:23:33,640 --> 00:23:36,399 Speaker 3: are Palestinians that I have met, Palestinians that have you know, 414 00:23:36,480 --> 00:23:39,080 Speaker 3: blonde hair, red hair, blue eyes. I mean this notion 415 00:23:39,240 --> 00:23:43,480 Speaker 3: of the racial components of this conflict there Ethiopian Jews, 416 00:23:43,520 --> 00:23:47,439 Speaker 3: I mean, the racial components of this conflict are are 417 00:23:47,560 --> 00:23:50,080 Speaker 3: very much oversimplified by the left because they want it 418 00:23:50,119 --> 00:23:53,400 Speaker 3: to be white oppressing brown. That's the way they think 419 00:23:53,440 --> 00:24:00,280 Speaker 3: of this right and the idea that somehow the real Uh, 420 00:24:00,600 --> 00:24:03,920 Speaker 3: the real concern should fall on, you know, the Muslim 421 00:24:03,920 --> 00:24:05,440 Speaker 3: community in this country. 422 00:24:05,480 --> 00:24:08,520 Speaker 1: I mean, you sit here and you say every like, 423 00:24:08,960 --> 00:24:09,879 Speaker 1: let's get right down to this. 424 00:24:10,200 --> 00:24:12,719 Speaker 3: There was a young boy who was uh, you know, 425 00:24:12,800 --> 00:24:17,199 Speaker 3: brutally murdered by some psychopasia and crazy who is in 426 00:24:17,240 --> 00:24:22,199 Speaker 3: a Every person in the country of any standing or 427 00:24:22,200 --> 00:24:26,160 Speaker 3: any saw that and said that is absolutely heinous. Throw 428 00:24:26,200 --> 00:24:28,280 Speaker 3: the you know, throw the book at that guy, you know, 429 00:24:28,520 --> 00:24:30,520 Speaker 3: you know, put you know, lock him up for life 430 00:24:30,600 --> 00:24:32,679 Speaker 3: or you know, death penalty if if that's possible in 431 00:24:32,680 --> 00:24:33,840 Speaker 3: that state, whatever the case may be. 432 00:24:34,520 --> 00:24:37,000 Speaker 1: No one said, oh. 433 00:24:36,720 --> 00:24:38,960 Speaker 3: Well, you know, there's more to the you know, we 434 00:24:39,000 --> 00:24:42,200 Speaker 3: gotta let let's not focus too much on that, because 435 00:24:42,200 --> 00:24:43,960 Speaker 3: there's something else. There was no what about is and 436 00:24:44,160 --> 00:24:47,879 Speaker 3: it was that was a heinous murder of a child. 437 00:24:48,560 --> 00:24:51,320 Speaker 3: And yet with the heinous murder of children in Israel, 438 00:24:51,800 --> 00:24:55,840 Speaker 3: you have all these people that do this. Sure it's 439 00:24:55,920 --> 00:24:58,720 Speaker 3: bad butt or all this throat clearing about oh, you 440 00:24:58,760 --> 00:25:03,280 Speaker 3: know the Palestinian cause complicated whatever. No, no, no, this is 441 00:25:03,320 --> 00:25:06,760 Speaker 3: actually rather straightforward. The murder of that young Muslim boy 442 00:25:07,240 --> 00:25:11,280 Speaker 3: was a grotesque atrocity and a crime, and all decent 443 00:25:11,320 --> 00:25:14,600 Speaker 3: people condemn it. What Hamas did to the Jewish people 444 00:25:14,720 --> 00:25:18,399 Speaker 3: is a grotesque atrocity and a crime, and all decent 445 00:25:18,440 --> 00:25:21,959 Speaker 3: people should condemn it, but they don't. Right, yeah, And 446 00:25:22,000 --> 00:25:25,000 Speaker 3: this this is where there's a difference. This is where 447 00:25:25,040 --> 00:25:27,200 Speaker 3: you see something you say, Hold on a second. There 448 00:25:27,280 --> 00:25:31,680 Speaker 3: is no mainstream ideology in this country of oh yeah, 449 00:25:31,720 --> 00:25:34,680 Speaker 3: go and go and harm a person because they're Muslim, 450 00:25:34,720 --> 00:25:37,200 Speaker 3: because of the history of Muslim oppression, of what that 451 00:25:37,200 --> 00:25:40,879 Speaker 3: that doesn't exist. There is, and thank god, there is 452 00:25:41,880 --> 00:25:45,760 Speaker 3: a mainstream not mad I shouldn't say mainstream, a far 453 00:25:45,800 --> 00:25:51,240 Speaker 3: too common, far too prevalent anti semitism that creates this. Well, 454 00:25:51,320 --> 00:25:54,280 Speaker 3: you know, the thing that happened in Israel is really sure, 455 00:25:54,400 --> 00:25:56,200 Speaker 3: you know, it's well, first of all, some people deny 456 00:25:56,200 --> 00:26:00,040 Speaker 3: that it even happened, but they're complete lunatics. But there's this, 457 00:26:00,800 --> 00:26:03,639 Speaker 3: you know, mitigation, Clay, there's this, Oh, we need to 458 00:26:03,640 --> 00:26:06,120 Speaker 3: think about all the factors here, or let's let's call 459 00:26:06,240 --> 00:26:09,520 Speaker 3: for a cease fire. Let's not rush to judgment. How 460 00:26:09,560 --> 00:26:12,800 Speaker 3: about just judgment, the judgment that this was evil, that 461 00:26:12,840 --> 00:26:15,320 Speaker 3: this was wrong. And that's where when Cree Jean Pierre 462 00:26:15,359 --> 00:26:18,560 Speaker 3: pivots to you know, oh, yes, Muslims in this country 463 00:26:18,560 --> 00:26:21,679 Speaker 3: are under assault as well. No they are not, and 464 00:26:21,800 --> 00:26:24,720 Speaker 3: no they should not be. And why does she feel 465 00:26:24,760 --> 00:26:25,479 Speaker 3: the need to do that. 466 00:26:26,680 --> 00:26:29,320 Speaker 2: And if there's any doubt, because remember immediately what MSNBC 467 00:26:29,480 --> 00:26:33,560 Speaker 2: said is oh, conservative talk radio is responsible for that 468 00:26:33,600 --> 00:26:34,280 Speaker 2: guy's murder. 469 00:26:34,840 --> 00:26:35,679 Speaker 1: Don't kill anyone. 470 00:26:36,240 --> 00:26:38,159 Speaker 2: If you're out there listening to us right now and 471 00:26:38,200 --> 00:26:42,320 Speaker 2: you're like, hey, I was thinking about committing murder, don't 472 00:26:42,320 --> 00:26:45,520 Speaker 2: do it, all right? And if you're like but then 473 00:26:45,840 --> 00:26:48,680 Speaker 2: on the radio they said don't commit murder, well that 474 00:26:48,720 --> 00:26:50,840 Speaker 2: would actually make me feel good. So if we have 475 00:26:51,040 --> 00:26:54,800 Speaker 2: so much influence over the millions of you listening right now, 476 00:26:55,200 --> 00:26:58,080 Speaker 2: let me just be perfectly clear. Both Buck and myself 477 00:26:58,160 --> 00:27:00,639 Speaker 2: want none of you to kill anyone. We want you 478 00:27:00,680 --> 00:27:03,120 Speaker 2: to be murder free from both this day and all 479 00:27:03,119 --> 00:27:05,199 Speaker 2: the days into the future. We are anti murder. But 480 00:27:05,240 --> 00:27:08,120 Speaker 2: your point is an important one. There is no one 481 00:27:08,160 --> 00:27:10,600 Speaker 2: that I have heard out there at all with any 482 00:27:10,680 --> 00:27:13,879 Speaker 2: kind of significant audience saying, hey, as a result of 483 00:27:13,880 --> 00:27:16,560 Speaker 2: what happened in Israel, you should go out and take 484 00:27:16,680 --> 00:27:19,840 Speaker 2: vengeance on people who have a different faith than you, 485 00:27:19,960 --> 00:27:24,160 Speaker 2: or happen to be Muslim, members of a particular ethnic group. 486 00:27:24,200 --> 00:27:25,040 Speaker 1: You should never do that. 487 00:27:25,200 --> 00:27:29,000 Speaker 2: Right, But there are still lots of people who are 488 00:27:29,200 --> 00:27:33,800 Speaker 2: trying to justify what happened, the fourteen hundred murders of 489 00:27:33,840 --> 00:27:34,280 Speaker 2: the Jews. 490 00:27:34,520 --> 00:27:37,000 Speaker 3: This is exactly moral equivalency here at all. This is 491 00:27:37,080 --> 00:27:41,080 Speaker 3: exactly the point. There are massive protests of people who 492 00:27:41,119 --> 00:27:45,520 Speaker 3: are standing in solidarity with Hamas and the Palestinians. Now 493 00:27:45,760 --> 00:27:47,680 Speaker 3: some are i know, more specific to it's just the 494 00:27:47,720 --> 00:27:50,600 Speaker 3: Palestinian people, and maybe they condemn Hamas a little bit. 495 00:27:51,080 --> 00:27:54,840 Speaker 3: But there is a movement here. There is a movement 496 00:27:55,040 --> 00:27:57,919 Speaker 3: that is broad based. It is an anti Semitic. It 497 00:27:57,960 --> 00:28:02,760 Speaker 3: is a Jew hating move mint that exists that we 498 00:28:02,840 --> 00:28:06,800 Speaker 3: see that Hamas, yes, obviously is very much a part of, 499 00:28:06,840 --> 00:28:10,080 Speaker 3: but it is broader than that, and it has seeped 500 00:28:10,080 --> 00:28:13,560 Speaker 3: into our society and it has it has, you know, 501 00:28:13,960 --> 00:28:16,119 Speaker 3: infected more of the West than I think a lot 502 00:28:16,160 --> 00:28:18,600 Speaker 3: of people realize, or perhaps the infection has gone deeper 503 00:28:18,600 --> 00:28:21,760 Speaker 3: than a lot of people realized until this. 504 00:28:21,040 --> 00:28:22,040 Speaker 1: This moment in time. 505 00:28:22,119 --> 00:28:25,399 Speaker 3: And so the notion that the concern we should have islamophobia, No, 506 00:28:26,200 --> 00:28:29,040 Speaker 3: in America, we're the good guys. We know that we 507 00:28:29,080 --> 00:28:31,040 Speaker 3: don't do that to people. We know that we don't 508 00:28:31,040 --> 00:28:34,080 Speaker 3: harm people based on their religion or their skin color, 509 00:28:34,240 --> 00:28:37,560 Speaker 3: or their ethnicity or their you know, comfort of origin, whatever, 510 00:28:38,120 --> 00:28:41,120 Speaker 3: because we're the good guys. Yes, Hamas doesn't know that, 511 00:28:41,360 --> 00:28:44,400 Speaker 3: because they're the bad guys. And this, I know people 512 00:28:44,400 --> 00:28:46,040 Speaker 3: will say, and you know, if you had some leftists 513 00:28:46,040 --> 00:28:47,720 Speaker 3: on the internet, oh look at the look at the 514 00:28:47,760 --> 00:28:52,000 Speaker 3: stupid radio show. They're simplifying. Some things are simple. Some 515 00:28:52,120 --> 00:28:55,080 Speaker 3: things are actually a binary good and bad, right and wrong. 516 00:28:55,480 --> 00:28:57,560 Speaker 3: And that is the moment that we are in right now. 517 00:28:57,920 --> 00:29:01,160 Speaker 3: And I think that there's a a need for people 518 00:29:01,200 --> 00:29:03,360 Speaker 3: to say it in that way and to be speaking 519 00:29:03,400 --> 00:29:07,000 Speaker 3: about it with that degree of clarity, because the on 520 00:29:07,120 --> 00:29:10,760 Speaker 3: both sides muney up, the waters complicated. Oh it's all complicated. No, 521 00:29:10,840 --> 00:29:12,520 Speaker 3: sometimes it's actually not complicated. 522 00:29:12,680 --> 00:29:13,320 Speaker 1: So how about the. 523 00:29:13,360 --> 00:29:15,080 Speaker 2: Argument Bucks, People are like, well, they may have killed 524 00:29:15,120 --> 00:29:17,160 Speaker 2: those babies, but they didn't behead them. 525 00:29:17,400 --> 00:29:18,280 Speaker 1: I mean that's some of the. 526 00:29:18,440 --> 00:29:22,480 Speaker 2: When you find yourself making the argument, oh this is exaggerated. 527 00:29:22,600 --> 00:29:25,840 Speaker 2: Sure they murdered those babies, but they didn't behead all 528 00:29:25,880 --> 00:29:29,920 Speaker 2: of them. That's where some of these people are. I mean, 529 00:29:30,200 --> 00:29:33,040 Speaker 2: you're in a tough spot, Buck when your argument is yeah, 530 00:29:33,080 --> 00:29:36,240 Speaker 2: they killed all these innocent babies, but stop with the 531 00:29:36,400 --> 00:29:38,480 Speaker 2: argument that they beheaded all of them too. 532 00:29:38,960 --> 00:29:39,920 Speaker 1: That didn't happen. 533 00:29:40,920 --> 00:29:44,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, you're a you're in a morally vacuous universe when 534 00:29:44,440 --> 00:29:48,280 Speaker 2: you were arguing about the degree to which the murders 535 00:29:48,320 --> 00:29:49,960 Speaker 2: occurred of innocent babies. 536 00:29:51,760 --> 00:29:53,280 Speaker 3: All right, we're switching gears here for a second. We 537 00:29:53,360 --> 00:29:54,960 Speaker 3: also want to take some of your calls to close 538 00:29:55,040 --> 00:29:56,520 Speaker 3: us out. What are your thoughts on all this? 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You'll 568 00:31:19,520 --> 00:31:22,640 Speaker 3: also get the Carol Marcowitz Show in that podcast stream. 569 00:31:23,160 --> 00:31:26,560 Speaker 3: Download the iHeartRadio app you can subscribe. You can also 570 00:31:26,560 --> 00:31:29,920 Speaker 3: become a Clayandbuck dot com VIP and send us email 571 00:31:30,000 --> 00:31:33,600 Speaker 3: throughout the show. Let's take some calls here, Clay Linda 572 00:31:33,800 --> 00:31:36,200 Speaker 3: in Tallahassee Linda, what have you got for us. 573 00:31:37,360 --> 00:31:40,160 Speaker 5: Good afternoon. I want to thank you for your good 574 00:31:40,160 --> 00:31:43,200 Speaker 5: coverage just Israel, because I've been listening just about every 575 00:31:43,240 --> 00:31:46,880 Speaker 5: single day, and to say that I'm beyond disgusted by 576 00:31:46,960 --> 00:31:51,480 Speaker 5: the American response is an understatement, especially by the Muslim apologists, 577 00:31:51,560 --> 00:31:55,200 Speaker 5: when there is no there is absolutely zero proof of 578 00:31:55,240 --> 00:31:59,360 Speaker 5: any anti Muslim activity. But we have anti Semitic activity 579 00:31:59,480 --> 00:32:02,880 Speaker 5: all around this under our nose. But something interesting happened. 580 00:32:03,000 --> 00:32:08,640 Speaker 5: So I've been posting a lot of pro Israeli post facts. 581 00:32:08,680 --> 00:32:11,400 Speaker 5: This is what happened. This person is murdered. These are 582 00:32:11,400 --> 00:32:15,240 Speaker 5: the children that are missing. I literally will get like 583 00:32:15,360 --> 00:32:20,480 Speaker 5: normally multiple multiple comments and likes, and I literally am 584 00:32:20,480 --> 00:32:22,920 Speaker 5: getting I don't know if I'm getting ghosted or if 585 00:32:22,960 --> 00:32:25,640 Speaker 5: people are afraid to comment. All of a sudden, I'm 586 00:32:25,680 --> 00:32:29,680 Speaker 5: getting five comments and ten likes. So I told to 587 00:32:29,720 --> 00:32:32,200 Speaker 5: my husband, if our anniversary, let's put a post out 588 00:32:32,240 --> 00:32:35,720 Speaker 5: there and let's see the difference between a post or 589 00:32:35,760 --> 00:32:38,320 Speaker 5: a like or a comment on our anniversary versus this. 590 00:32:38,760 --> 00:32:42,800 Speaker 5: We had close to two hundred immediate likes and multiple 591 00:32:42,880 --> 00:32:45,000 Speaker 5: multiple comments. I think I counted the last time was 592 00:32:45,000 --> 00:32:45,600 Speaker 5: close to hundred. 593 00:32:46,040 --> 00:32:46,680 Speaker 1: Linda, thank you. 594 00:32:46,560 --> 00:32:49,320 Speaker 3: You know there are a lot of people right now 595 00:32:49,360 --> 00:32:53,360 Speaker 3: who I think they feel like they'll become a target 596 00:32:53,400 --> 00:32:55,280 Speaker 3: and already just you know, I've got you know, people 597 00:32:55,280 --> 00:32:58,240 Speaker 3: on Twitter who are mad at me because I said 598 00:32:59,040 --> 00:33:02,000 Speaker 3: what I think is a very very straightforward analysis. And 599 00:33:02,120 --> 00:33:04,680 Speaker 3: I worked in counter terrorism at the Central Intelligence Agency, 600 00:33:04,720 --> 00:33:06,160 Speaker 3: so I think I have some idea what I'm talking 601 00:33:06,160 --> 00:33:10,360 Speaker 3: about that the attack by Hamas puts it on the 602 00:33:10,360 --> 00:33:13,880 Speaker 3: same moral plane. It's it's it's very similar to what 603 00:33:13,920 --> 00:33:17,800 Speaker 3: you would expect from an ISIS or al Qaeda terrorist attack, 604 00:33:18,160 --> 00:33:20,080 Speaker 3: and in fact, some might argue it's in some ways 605 00:33:20,080 --> 00:33:22,080 Speaker 3: it's it's worse than what you've seen from many of 606 00:33:22,120 --> 00:33:25,400 Speaker 3: those many jihadist groups around the world, but it's certainly 607 00:33:25,840 --> 00:33:28,240 Speaker 3: along with the worst. Clay people are you know, oh 608 00:33:28,760 --> 00:33:30,920 Speaker 3: unseerious analysis. You know they're getting mad at you know, 609 00:33:31,040 --> 00:33:32,680 Speaker 3: leftists are getting mad at me for this. 610 00:33:33,280 --> 00:33:35,200 Speaker 1: I don't know what could be more straightforward than that. 611 00:33:35,560 --> 00:33:36,440 Speaker 1: How could I would? 612 00:33:36,520 --> 00:33:38,920 Speaker 3: I would challenge them, Clay, and thank you for calling inland. 613 00:33:39,200 --> 00:33:40,960 Speaker 3: I would challenge anybody who has a problem with that 614 00:33:41,040 --> 00:33:44,200 Speaker 3: analysis to explain to me how could Hamas have made 615 00:33:44,200 --> 00:33:47,520 Speaker 3: it more evil? Like? What what on the on the 616 00:33:47,600 --> 00:33:53,760 Speaker 3: possibilities of doing evil acts? What could Hamas have done 617 00:33:53,760 --> 00:33:57,440 Speaker 3: in that terror attack to make it more evil? I 618 00:33:57,520 --> 00:34:00,840 Speaker 3: actually can't think of anything. I think that they hit 619 00:34:00,880 --> 00:34:02,360 Speaker 3: everything they possibly could. 620 00:34:03,480 --> 00:34:05,240 Speaker 1: It's a great point, and. 621 00:34:07,200 --> 00:34:12,200 Speaker 2: I again, I think it comes back to and this 622 00:34:12,239 --> 00:34:14,400 Speaker 2: is why I think it's important for all of you 623 00:34:14,480 --> 00:34:18,040 Speaker 2: out there listening to have conversations with your kids and 624 00:34:18,120 --> 00:34:22,359 Speaker 2: grandkids about this, because I think it really comes back 625 00:34:22,400 --> 00:34:25,800 Speaker 2: to the way that so many Americans are responding. 626 00:34:25,719 --> 00:34:26,920 Speaker 1: Is one buck. 627 00:34:27,440 --> 00:34:30,600 Speaker 2: It's amazing how many people speak out in America that 628 00:34:30,640 --> 00:34:33,960 Speaker 2: would never have the freedom to speak out in the 629 00:34:34,000 --> 00:34:36,239 Speaker 2: countries that they claim to be supporting. I can't get 630 00:34:36,239 --> 00:34:40,520 Speaker 2: past all these idiots with like LGBTQ for Palestine right 631 00:34:41,160 --> 00:34:44,320 Speaker 2: the luxuries of American freedom that allow you to speak 632 00:34:44,360 --> 00:34:46,719 Speaker 2: out when you would never be able to be gay 633 00:34:47,000 --> 00:34:49,760 Speaker 2: and free in Palestine. I mean, it just wouldn't be allowed, 634 00:34:49,760 --> 00:34:50,760 Speaker 2: It wouldn't be permitted. 635 00:34:51,160 --> 00:34:52,120 Speaker 1: And two you. 636 00:34:52,120 --> 00:34:54,440 Speaker 3: Definitely wouldn't be able to be trans and free in 637 00:34:54,440 --> 00:34:56,359 Speaker 3: Palestine either. I mean, you know some of the I've 638 00:34:56,360 --> 00:35:00,560 Speaker 3: seen trans for Palestine right now. Yes, not all proposed 639 00:35:00,840 --> 00:35:04,680 Speaker 3: victim groups are are aligned. 640 00:35:05,080 --> 00:35:05,719 Speaker 1: Put it that way. 641 00:35:06,360 --> 00:35:09,880 Speaker 2: And also, do you realize what the faith of the 642 00:35:09,960 --> 00:35:14,279 Speaker 2: Muslims actually represents relative to what many of the lifestyle 643 00:35:14,400 --> 00:35:16,879 Speaker 2: choices are made by people who believe that they are 644 00:35:16,920 --> 00:35:18,000 Speaker 2: in the same camp with them. 645 00:35:18,040 --> 00:35:19,359 Speaker 1: I'll just put that out, but. 646 00:35:19,320 --> 00:35:22,279 Speaker 2: I think it's important to have a conversation with your 647 00:35:22,320 --> 00:35:27,560 Speaker 2: kids and grandkids about what true evil looks like, because 648 00:35:27,640 --> 00:35:33,520 Speaker 2: it ain't somebody who disagrees with your opinion on what 649 00:35:33,560 --> 00:35:37,960 Speaker 2: should happen with border security. Right your aunt who believes 650 00:35:38,000 --> 00:35:40,839 Speaker 2: there should be a wall being built is not the 651 00:35:40,880 --> 00:35:45,640 Speaker 2: same as a Jewish guard who flipped on the gas 652 00:35:45,680 --> 00:35:50,840 Speaker 2: to gas Jews. They aren't equally Nazis, and real evil exists. 653 00:35:50,840 --> 00:35:54,080 Speaker 2: And I think in America, you know, it's a luxury 654 00:35:54,120 --> 00:35:57,040 Speaker 2: to be out there arguing, Oh, a dude who pretends 655 00:35:57,080 --> 00:35:59,279 Speaker 2: to be a chick should be the Women's athlete of 656 00:35:59,320 --> 00:36:05,040 Speaker 2: the year. That's a sign of how little actual danger 657 00:36:05,080 --> 00:36:07,680 Speaker 2: there is in America that the left considers that to 658 00:36:07,760 --> 00:36:11,000 Speaker 2: be a battleground. These are real conversations that I think 659 00:36:11,080 --> 00:36:13,239 Speaker 2: parents and grandparents need to have to open up the 660 00:36:13,239 --> 00:36:15,400 Speaker 2: eyes of young people as to what's going on around 661 00:36:15,400 --> 00:36:18,960 Speaker 2: the world and what's happened in the past to Americans, what's. 662 00:36:18,760 --> 00:36:20,720 Speaker 1: Happened in two Americans in Israel today. 663 00:36:21,239 --> 00:36:24,560 Speaker 3: I just will say that, you know, the ground war 664 00:36:24,600 --> 00:36:27,279 Speaker 3: hasn't even started yet, so it's going to be an 665 00:36:27,320 --> 00:36:29,480 Speaker 3: issue that's front and center for us here because it 666 00:36:29,560 --> 00:36:33,520 Speaker 3: must be, because it is for quite some time, and 667 00:36:33,600 --> 00:36:37,320 Speaker 3: we will approach it with as much honesty, decency, moral 668 00:36:37,440 --> 00:36:40,959 Speaker 3: clarity and strength as we can here on the show. 669 00:36:41,120 --> 00:36:43,400 Speaker 1: So honor to have you with us as we do 670 00:36:43,480 --> 00:36:43,920 Speaker 1: all of that. 671 00:36:44,360 --> 00:36:47,600 Speaker 3: We'll get back into it tomorrow. Give your loved one's 672 00:36:47,640 --> 00:36:49,640 Speaker 3: a hug today. Friends, We'll talk to you soon.