WEBVTT - Ep 359: Honor Your Style ft. Kendra Porter 0:00:06.360 --> 0:00:11.240 Hey, hey, Hey, we're back. 0:00:11.680 --> 0:00:15.640 We're black, We're brown. 0:00:17.000 --> 0:00:21.239 Ambition, ambition, ambition. 0:00:20.440 --> 0:00:25.079 AMBITI Hey, Mandra, how are you girl? Hello? 0:00:25.239 --> 0:00:29.040 Lady in red, I haven't seen you in this color before. 0:00:29.560 --> 0:00:32.040 It's a instead of a short scent, it's a skirt 0:00:32.120 --> 0:00:33.400 st I got it from the Amazon. 0:00:35.040 --> 0:00:38.680 From Amazon people, Yeah, shopping on Amazon. I haven't really done. 0:00:38.680 --> 0:00:42.040 A lot of people seem to get cute stuff famous. Yeah, 0:00:42.159 --> 0:00:44.720 that's how I feel. It's either going to be good 0:00:44.800 --> 0:00:48.680 quality or like forever twenty one clearance been you know, 0:00:49.000 --> 0:00:51.360 quality is how I feel. But I love that you're 0:00:51.400 --> 0:00:53.760 in this new bright color. I am in this one 0:00:53.840 --> 0:00:56.920 of my favorite shades, which I am now over analyzing 0:00:56.920 --> 0:00:59.080 and I'm like, is this my color palette? Am I 0:00:59.120 --> 0:01:02.520 a winter summer? I'm really excited about today's show and 0:01:02.560 --> 0:01:05.600 the reason we're talking a little bit about style is 0:01:05.680 --> 0:01:07.720 one I think if you follow Brad Ambition from the 0:01:07.800 --> 0:01:10.839 very beginning, it's been almost eight years now, can you believe? 0:01:11.040 --> 0:01:14.039 Can you believe we're in the third grade almost and 0:01:14.240 --> 0:01:16.720 we have changed quite a bit. I feel like our 0:01:16.760 --> 0:01:19.560 style has evolved. I think all of our styles are 0:01:19.560 --> 0:01:22.760 constantly evolving, especially like we talked a lot about hair 0:01:22.880 --> 0:01:25.120 during a recent episode and like how that can evolve 0:01:25.160 --> 0:01:27.800 with your career and your business, And I think style 0:01:27.920 --> 0:01:30.160 is such. I mean, obviously hair is this. Hair and 0:01:30.200 --> 0:01:32.240 style it's the same thing basically when you're a woman 0:01:32.280 --> 0:01:36.000 of color. I feel like, but today we have a 0:01:36.040 --> 0:01:39.120 really fantastic guest, Tiffany, and I can't wait for y'all 0:01:39.160 --> 0:01:41.880 to meet here. I met this woman at a recent 0:01:41.959 --> 0:01:45.119 conference that I spoke at, and I didn't even realize 0:01:45.800 --> 0:01:48.080 I hadn't really thought about my style very much. But 0:01:48.520 --> 0:01:51.480 after listening to this our guest speaking about it, I 0:01:51.520 --> 0:01:55.640 instantly was like, you know, I do put thought into it, 0:01:55.720 --> 0:01:58.600 but I feel like there's so much hunger and a 0:01:58.600 --> 0:02:01.280 lot of us to have more, or like to have 0:02:01.360 --> 0:02:03.080 more of a style and to own it a little 0:02:03.080 --> 0:02:07.480 bit more. What has your style like evolution been, Tiffany, 0:02:07.520 --> 0:02:10.680 as you've gone from Budgetista, I was always like Netflix 0:02:10.800 --> 0:02:13.560 she wearing Netflix red today I have been. 0:02:13.520 --> 0:02:15.240 Super tom Boys kind of like my whole life, I 0:02:15.240 --> 0:02:18.720 never really thought about clothes too much, but then as 0:02:18.760 --> 0:02:22.600 I started to start my business, not dressing well harmed 0:02:22.600 --> 0:02:24.480 my business because they were literally like I would get 0:02:24.480 --> 0:02:27.280 feedback what I would meet with someone hoping to like, 0:02:27.360 --> 0:02:28.359 you know, launch maybe a. 0:02:28.320 --> 0:02:29.360 Workshop series whatever. 0:02:29.360 --> 0:02:31.480 I would get feedback and say, like, I like Tifany, 0:02:31.520 --> 0:02:33.560 but she didn't really best very professionally, and I was like, 0:02:33.760 --> 0:02:34.640 because before then, I was a. 0:02:34.639 --> 0:02:35.239 Pre school team. 0:02:35.240 --> 0:02:36.200 Really yeah. 0:02:36.320 --> 0:02:37.880 I got a couple of people who said that because pre 0:02:37.919 --> 0:02:40.040 school teacher, you know, you're like, can this be thrown 0:02:40.120 --> 0:02:40.320 up on? 0:02:40.560 --> 0:02:41.120 I wear it? 0:02:43.400 --> 0:02:48.120 And so I got to delay developing my style because I, 0:02:48.280 --> 0:02:51.919 you know, professionally, it was like comfort, comfort, comfort. It 0:02:51.960 --> 0:02:53.840 should be able to get dirty, and that's what I 0:02:53.960 --> 0:02:57.280 was for ten years. So I didn't know what to wear. 0:02:57.680 --> 0:03:00.760 So thankfully my sister Tracy, who's also a publisher, she 0:03:01.000 --> 0:03:04.160 is always super well dressed. So I started to lean 0:03:04.160 --> 0:03:06.600 into her and said, can you help me create like 0:03:06.639 --> 0:03:10.200 a budget Nissa look, which is like very very professional looking. 0:03:10.240 --> 0:03:12.400 And now I'm easing up on the budget lista being 0:03:12.480 --> 0:03:16.200 more super tailored and like, you know, interjecting more of 0:03:16.200 --> 0:03:18.560 my funness into it. And so I'm in this new 0:03:18.600 --> 0:03:21.440 space now where I'm like bringing forth the feminine. 0:03:21.480 --> 0:03:24.160 That's what I told myself, you know, because I. 0:03:24.600 --> 0:03:26.200 Know I got a little body on me a little 0:03:26.200 --> 0:03:30.800 bit too. Wait body, yes, a little. 0:03:30.600 --> 0:03:33.480 Body, you know, and I've never shown I met this 0:03:33.520 --> 0:03:35.400 woman in I was at brunch in Brooklyn with my 0:03:35.440 --> 0:03:38.520 sister Lisa, and a budgetista fan came up. 0:03:38.480 --> 0:03:41.320 To me was like, girl, I know you had that body. 0:03:41.360 --> 0:03:42.080 I'm like, I know. 0:03:43.280 --> 0:03:45.960 So I'm leaning into my feminine a little bit like 0:03:46.120 --> 0:03:47.880 one in a way that makes me feel comfortable because 0:03:47.880 --> 0:03:50.440 I don't like having all all the girls out, but 0:03:50.600 --> 0:03:52.560 in a way that I'm like, girl, you got a body, 0:03:52.680 --> 0:03:54.000 like you know, embrace it. 0:03:55.280 --> 0:03:59.440 M Yeah. For me, I think because my body size 0:03:59.640 --> 0:04:03.000 changed has always changes every two years. I'm up and down. 0:04:03.040 --> 0:04:05.800 I have this like opra condition, and I think that 0:04:05.840 --> 0:04:08.120 has always made it really difficult for me to just 0:04:08.160 --> 0:04:10.160 like settle on a style because it was like, you know, 0:04:10.200 --> 0:04:13.360 when I'm growing up, getting getting styled by the Sears 0:04:13.400 --> 0:04:16.560 plus size section, which is like for little girls, you know, 0:04:16.640 --> 0:04:18.880 in the way far back corner by like the granny 0:04:19.160 --> 0:04:21.279 you know stuff and the petite section, and to be like, 0:04:21.360 --> 0:04:23.480 here's you. My mom would just drag me back there 0:04:23.520 --> 0:04:25.840 and be like, which, Hello Kitty or Winnie the Pooh 0:04:26.520 --> 0:04:29.240 ensemble would you like? Because like these are the options. 0:04:29.279 --> 0:04:33.280 So I have been like plus size and you know, 0:04:33.600 --> 0:04:36.240 every you know from from way too skinny, you had 0:04:36.240 --> 0:04:39.320 some issues to like, you know, plus size, and it 0:04:39.360 --> 0:04:41.719 has made it almost to the point where I didn't 0:04:41.760 --> 0:04:44.359 want to think about like I didn't think I deserved 0:04:44.440 --> 0:04:47.440 or could have a look because it would mean like 0:04:47.920 --> 0:04:51.200 investing more in new clothes because my size has changed again. 0:04:52.200 --> 0:04:55.000 And that finally broke for me a couple of years 0:04:55.040 --> 0:04:57.200 ago when I had the opportunity to do like a 0:04:58.120 --> 0:05:01.520 real brand photo shoot and I worked with a family 0:05:01.520 --> 0:05:04.480 friend of mine who was, like, she's a stylist in 0:05:04.520 --> 0:05:07.200 her free time, and I had her picking things for me, 0:05:07.960 --> 0:05:11.080 and she introduced me to you like, for so long, 0:05:11.120 --> 0:05:13.080 I had been trying to develop a style by shopping 0:05:13.120 --> 0:05:15.479 at like old Navy in H and M, and I 0:05:15.480 --> 0:05:17.279 get so annoyed because then he got on the subway 0:05:17.279 --> 0:05:20.119 and every other girl has the exact same, you know look. 0:05:20.839 --> 0:05:24.800 And she introduced me to like curating different pieces and 0:05:24.839 --> 0:05:27.760 like putting them together, and she really helped me get 0:05:27.760 --> 0:05:30.360 out of the trap of like not buying something because 0:05:30.360 --> 0:05:32.080 I didn't like the size. I had to buy in it, 0:05:32.760 --> 0:05:34.320 which I don't know if you ever been like as 0:05:34.360 --> 0:05:35.840 a as a plus size woman, And I know our 0:05:35.839 --> 0:05:39.400 guest is as well like you, you get so caught 0:05:39.440 --> 0:05:41.760 up in like what size something is, and are people 0:05:42.040 --> 0:05:44.320 no one's gonna know what size it is, you know. 0:05:44.440 --> 0:05:46.640 But she helped me finally get out of that trap 0:05:46.720 --> 0:05:51.200 of stop holding yourself back from looking amazing because you're 0:05:51.560 --> 0:05:54.920 more there's shame around what size of that you have 0:05:55.000 --> 0:05:58.640 to have. And now ever since I like broke that spell, 0:05:58.920 --> 0:06:01.440 I feel like it's been so much more fun to 0:06:01.560 --> 0:06:05.600 like discover new brands. I'm a huge fan of like Eloquy. 0:06:06.120 --> 0:06:08.080 I wear their stuff all the time and they do 0:06:08.160 --> 0:06:14.719 fourteen plus fashion, and also like stop wasting time over 0:06:14.800 --> 0:06:18.960 analyzing myself and being like embarrassed because no one does 0:06:19.080 --> 0:06:21.320 know what your size is. They just know how you're 0:06:21.360 --> 0:06:25.839 moving confidently, like in your fashion, you know. So I 0:06:25.839 --> 0:06:29.200 don't know if y'all my fashion has been like muted, muted, muted, 0:06:29.240 --> 0:06:33.039 and then like this explosion of my personality color, you know, 0:06:33.120 --> 0:06:35.919 I want joy to come through with the style that 0:06:35.960 --> 0:06:40.160 I have, and it's been, Yeah, it's been liberating, and 0:06:40.200 --> 0:06:43.400 I'm glad I got there now because I feel like 0:06:43.440 --> 0:06:45.040 so many of us we wait till, like, I don't know, 0:06:45.600 --> 0:06:48.159 when do we stop giving giving a crap about people 0:06:48.200 --> 0:06:51.839 think about us on average, I'm. 0:06:50.680 --> 0:06:52.640 Still trying to have eighty I'm forty, and I would 0:06:52.640 --> 0:06:55.640 say I'm about eighty percent. Girl, what nobody cares? They're 0:06:55.680 --> 0:06:58.039 still about a little thirty percent. I'm like, but I do. 0:06:58.400 --> 0:07:02.240 But yeah, well I still got collagen, you know, while 0:07:02.240 --> 0:07:05.520 there's some lift in the skin, like just even on vacation. 0:07:05.680 --> 0:07:07.720 I told you, I've never felt sexier than I was 0:07:07.800 --> 0:07:10.200 on our vacation a couple of weeks ago. I've never 0:07:10.240 --> 0:07:12.520 been heavier. I got this huge seven month baby bump. 0:07:12.680 --> 0:07:16.000 But I was rocking bikinis. I wasn't. I wasn't hiding 0:07:16.040 --> 0:07:18.840 behind a cover up. I wasn't. I was just like, 0:07:19.800 --> 0:07:23.240 this is my body, like this is There's nothing to 0:07:23.280 --> 0:07:24.680 be ashamed about anyway. 0:07:24.800 --> 0:07:25.440 So that's been. 0:07:25.800 --> 0:07:28.160 It's a good I think. I feel like I hope 0:07:28.200 --> 0:07:30.880 that more of us are feeling that way. I credit 0:07:30.960 --> 0:07:33.960 Do you have a style icon? Because I credit Lizzo 0:07:34.040 --> 0:07:36.640 for making me feel better about my lumps and bumps. 0:07:36.920 --> 0:07:37.880 You know what, I don't. 0:07:37.880 --> 0:07:39.960 Actually, maybe that's my problem. I don't have a style. 0:07:39.960 --> 0:07:43.160 Icon, like someone that you look to and you're like, oh, 0:07:43.200 --> 0:07:45.480 you know, they are so put together. That's who I 0:07:45.560 --> 0:07:47.360 kind of want to. That's the vibe I want to. 0:07:47.320 --> 0:07:52.200 Give off, not a particular woman, but more so like 0:07:52.560 --> 0:07:55.160 the Brooklyn, the Brooklyn black girl I love because I'm 0:07:55.160 --> 0:07:58.200 like the afrocentric at my core, and so I love 0:07:58.360 --> 0:08:01.520 like the Brooklyn Baddy black They're just walking big hair 0:08:02.280 --> 0:08:05.240 like it's just so that there's no one particular, but 0:08:05.320 --> 0:08:08.560 like I love that look and it just looks so effortlessly. 0:08:08.880 --> 0:08:12.880 She can bohemian but like sexy but not super because 0:08:12.880 --> 0:08:14.400 I'm not really like I said, like my girls are 0:08:14.400 --> 0:08:16.600 not all out, you know, so I would say that 0:08:16.600 --> 0:08:19.960 that the Brooklyn the summer Brooklyn black girl is my icon. 0:08:21.600 --> 0:08:23.760 I don't know, I'll never be that cool. 0:08:24.000 --> 0:08:24.160 You know? 0:08:24.200 --> 0:08:26.200 Who is that cool? Who was our guest the Davis's 0:08:26.440 --> 0:08:29.720 was a kadem Yes, she is at Brooklyn, Like that 0:08:29.840 --> 0:08:32.720 is the cool, like quintessential I feel like anyway, but 0:08:32.760 --> 0:08:36.120 that style, well, I want to we'll take a quick 0:08:36.120 --> 0:08:37.760 pause here, but I really want to get to our 0:08:37.800 --> 0:08:40.560 guests because she is. This is what she does. She 0:08:40.679 --> 0:08:43.079 works with people like you and I and I mean 0:08:43.080 --> 0:08:46.280 not just that but just regular regular folks. And when 0:08:46.280 --> 0:08:49.640 I'm going to her style talk at this conference that 0:08:49.679 --> 0:08:52.320 I went to, like the women were lining up afterward, 0:08:52.880 --> 0:08:55.400 and she would make these small tweaks to their outfits 0:08:55.440 --> 0:08:57.680 and you can see their eyes light up, you know, 0:08:57.920 --> 0:08:59.960 like oh I didn't think I didn't look at it 0:09:00.000 --> 0:09:01.920 this way, or like this actually does look good on me, 0:09:01.960 --> 0:09:04.160 and it was so powerful, So I had to have 0:09:04.200 --> 0:09:06.920 her on. I want to introduce her finally to y'all, 0:09:06.920 --> 0:09:10.480 BA fam. Her name is Kendra Porter. She is a 0:09:10.480 --> 0:09:13.320 teed X speaker, an award winning image consultant, and a 0:09:13.320 --> 0:09:16.720 wardrobe stylist. She is the founder of Honor Your Style 0:09:16.840 --> 0:09:20.600 image consulting agency, where she's worked with thousands of clients, 0:09:20.640 --> 0:09:24.040 helping them reimagine their style. Kendra uses fashion as a 0:09:24.040 --> 0:09:27.880 tool to develop personal and professional brands, and her motto 0:09:28.040 --> 0:09:31.439 is honor your Style, Honor you. These days, you can 0:09:31.440 --> 0:09:34.480 find Kendra producing events on the mic for well known 0:09:34.520 --> 0:09:38.720 retailers like Neiman Marcus. She facilitates trainings like I Went 0:09:38.800 --> 0:09:41.520 to on personal branding and style. She also teaches at 0:09:41.760 --> 0:09:43.920 a little school you might have heard of called FIT 0:09:44.280 --> 0:09:47.720 or the Fashion Institute of Technology in New York City, 0:09:48.080 --> 0:09:51.240 and she's also in studio dressing on air talent at 0:09:51.360 --> 0:09:54.600 NBC Sports and has even dressed talent for the Olympics. 0:09:54.800 --> 0:09:58.079 Come on now. Over a decade of experience, she has 0:09:58.160 --> 0:10:00.760 dressed for designers at New York Fashion Week, from Oscar 0:10:00.800 --> 0:10:03.760 Della Rented to Problem. Yeah, how do you say that, Kendra? 0:10:04.000 --> 0:10:04.800 Probably Garung? 0:10:06.679 --> 0:10:09.240 I'd be you know when you see something, but you know, anyway, whatever, 0:10:10.200 --> 0:10:13.120 she's very, very impressive and we are so freaking excited 0:10:13.160 --> 0:10:14.360 to have Kendra on the show. 0:10:14.520 --> 0:10:17.160 Welcome Kendra, Thank you, ladies, thank you so much for 0:10:17.200 --> 0:10:19.679 having me. And I did say probably Garung. My apologies, 0:10:19.720 --> 0:10:25.960 I was not unmiked, unmiked, unmuted, but uh yeah, probably Garn. Listen, 0:10:26.440 --> 0:10:28.880 even for me saying some of the designer's names, I'm like, wait, 0:10:28.920 --> 0:10:30.199 hold on, let me google. 0:10:32.120 --> 0:10:34.480 They deserve Well. I'm so happy to have you on. 0:10:34.640 --> 0:10:37.120 I mean we headed off. We're like new besties because 0:10:37.120 --> 0:10:39.679 we also live in the same zip code. We too 0:10:39.840 --> 0:10:43.000 over here representing Westchester. But is it true did you 0:10:43.040 --> 0:10:45.079 meet Tiffany before, like a million lifetimes ago? 0:10:45.320 --> 0:10:47.920 So yeah, so I met Tiffany, And I don't know 0:10:47.960 --> 0:10:50.679 if you even remember this, Tiffany, Like I met you 0:10:52.120 --> 0:10:53.960 when I was first starting out. So this is probably 0:10:54.000 --> 0:10:57.199 eleven twelve years ago, right, you had just started out 0:10:57.240 --> 0:10:59.920 as well, and we were at a women of Chamin 0:11:00.240 --> 0:11:03.280 commerce meeting in the city, like off of fourteenth Street. 0:11:03.320 --> 0:11:05.120 Don't ask me why I remember all of these details, 0:11:05.160 --> 0:11:09.240 but I do. And ever since then, right, I've been 0:11:09.440 --> 0:11:13.600 part of the dream Catchers and right following you for 0:11:13.640 --> 0:11:17.240 all these years, so I appreciate it, and we've touched 0:11:17.240 --> 0:11:20.920 space every now and then. But it's been an amazing 0:11:20.960 --> 0:11:23.000 journey to watch you and I am so proud of 0:11:23.040 --> 0:11:25.680 all that you've done throughout the years, for sure, So 0:11:25.800 --> 0:11:26.520 kudos to you. 0:11:27.840 --> 0:11:30.360 Thank you, and welcome you. 0:11:33.320 --> 0:11:36.079 We'll talk about like being an image consultant first of all, Kendra, 0:11:36.120 --> 0:11:38.080 because you do on the personal and the professional level. 0:11:38.080 --> 0:11:40.360 Why is it important, Like why should people from us 0:11:40.400 --> 0:11:43.720 who are public facing to just everyday working women be 0:11:43.760 --> 0:11:46.760 thinking about our image. So the first thing I like 0:11:46.800 --> 0:11:48.720 to explain to people is the difference between an image 0:11:48.720 --> 0:11:52.920 consultant and a stylist, right, because everyone's like, well, I'm 0:11:52.960 --> 0:11:56.320 not a celebrity, and so I happen to be both, right, 0:11:56.440 --> 0:11:59.080 I tell people, as an image consultant, it is about 0:11:59.240 --> 0:12:02.400 the person, right, you as a as a total package, 0:12:02.400 --> 0:12:05.439 your personality, your lifestyle, your budget, all of it. 0:12:05.880 --> 0:12:08.800 And so it is making sure that you are aligned 0:12:08.880 --> 0:12:11.600 with what you are trying to represent as a person, 0:12:12.400 --> 0:12:15.480 right and communicating that through your fashion as well as 0:12:15.520 --> 0:12:18.880 a stylist. Right, it is about the clothes. So if 0:12:18.920 --> 0:12:21.160 you walk into a room and someone says, oh my god, 0:12:21.160 --> 0:12:23.480 that person looks amazing, that's an image consultant. 0:12:23.600 --> 0:12:23.760 Right. 0:12:23.800 --> 0:12:27.000 You see the person as a whole. If you walk 0:12:27.040 --> 0:12:28.760 into a room and someone says, oh my god, where'd 0:12:28.800 --> 0:12:29.520 you get those shoes? 0:12:30.160 --> 0:12:31.640 That is a stylist. 0:12:31.720 --> 0:12:34.800 Right. It's about the fashion, the dress, the shoes, the 0:12:34.920 --> 0:12:38.600 pieces right that are speaking above who you are as 0:12:38.600 --> 0:12:43.280 an individual. And so you know, the importance is is 0:12:43.280 --> 0:12:46.000 that as a person as a whole, regardless of whether 0:12:46.040 --> 0:12:49.760 you're you know, in the limelight or if you're living 0:12:49.760 --> 0:12:52.960 your daily life, you want to represent the best person 0:12:53.080 --> 0:12:53.440 you are. 0:12:53.559 --> 0:12:53.760 Right. 0:12:53.800 --> 0:12:55.400 We always say that we should always put our best 0:12:55.400 --> 0:12:58.520 foot forward, no matter what, even running to the grocery store, 0:12:58.520 --> 0:13:01.440 but running to the grocery store meaning putting out moisturizer 0:13:01.480 --> 0:13:03.000 and putting your hair in a bun, right, like running 0:13:03.000 --> 0:13:06.960 a brush through your hair, the simple things. Because we are, 0:13:08.600 --> 0:13:11.280 unfortunately right, we are in a culture that does judge 0:13:11.600 --> 0:13:15.439 and that does see people. And it's that visual representation 0:13:15.640 --> 0:13:16.800 is the first thing you see. 0:13:19.160 --> 0:13:19.800 Yeah, I don't know. 0:13:19.840 --> 0:13:22.559 I feel like there's with social media too, there is 0:13:22.640 --> 0:13:25.520 this it's this like dichotomy because I think on social 0:13:25.600 --> 0:13:29.800 media sometimes you want to be raw, unfiltered, no makeup, whatever, 0:13:30.360 --> 0:13:32.840 But there's a very different version of yourself when you 0:13:32.880 --> 0:13:35.800 show up to present something or to represent your brand, 0:13:35.880 --> 0:13:40.320 you know, among potential advertisers or potential clients. How do 0:13:40.360 --> 0:13:44.120 you sort of toe that line between like honoring both 0:13:44.160 --> 0:13:45.880 sides where like, I mean, you kind of want to 0:13:45.920 --> 0:13:48.760 like resist the need to be like Tiff and I, I 0:13:48.679 --> 0:13:50.520 don't know, Tiff, like you're going through this glow up 0:13:50.520 --> 0:13:53.800 phase where you know, she puts some effort in and 0:13:53.880 --> 0:13:54.280 we hear. 0:13:56.120 --> 0:13:59.080 Not that you have before. It's just different. But it's 0:13:59.160 --> 0:14:01.120 so yeah, it's so. 0:14:01.280 --> 0:14:04.600 Here's the thing, right, nobody's saying you have to wear 0:14:04.679 --> 0:14:07.280 makeup every day, Right, That's not what we're saying. What 0:14:07.320 --> 0:14:09.680 we're saying is is that you want to represent the 0:14:09.679 --> 0:14:12.240 best you, even as a natural, even as a natural, 0:14:12.840 --> 0:14:15.480 fresh faced running out of running to the grocery store 0:14:15.520 --> 0:14:17.800 or what have you. Right, I don't wear makeup every day. 0:14:17.840 --> 0:14:19.640 I only wear makeup when I'm doing events, or I'm 0:14:19.680 --> 0:14:22.240 on camera, right, if you see me out on the street, 0:14:22.480 --> 0:14:25.760 I don't have makeup on, right, but I'm dressed in 0:14:25.800 --> 0:14:27.760 a way that people may say, oh, wait, where'd you 0:14:27.760 --> 0:14:28.480 get those sneakers? 0:14:28.560 --> 0:14:30.680 Right? Where did you? You know what? 0:14:31.360 --> 0:14:33.040 What's kind of sort of sticking out? And that's the 0:14:33.080 --> 0:14:35.880 stylus side of me, right, Or I may help people 0:14:35.920 --> 0:14:38.480 with that, right if I'm of course in a store 0:14:38.480 --> 0:14:40.440 shopping and it's like, oh, here, look at this, and 0:14:40.480 --> 0:14:42.000 then they take a look at me, because if I'm 0:14:42.120 --> 0:14:45.080 dressed right, if I'm dressed in an oversized sweater and 0:14:45.120 --> 0:14:47.520 a pair of leggings trying to style somebody, they're like, 0:14:48.320 --> 0:14:51.000 I'm not really sure you're the right person for me, right, 0:14:51.480 --> 0:14:53.640 But of course I'm going to be in fashionable leggings. 0:14:53.400 --> 0:14:55.360 And a fashionable sweatshirt. So that's a different story. 0:14:56.040 --> 0:14:59.480 But it is you want to be who you are authentically, 0:15:00.120 --> 0:15:03.200 and it is the simple things, right. So like when 0:15:03.240 --> 0:15:06.120 you talked about making those little tweaks when we were 0:15:06.160 --> 0:15:10.880 at the seminar, it is grooming right, looking at brushing 0:15:10.920 --> 0:15:13.920 your hair, looking at adding moisturizer, looking at doing lip bomb. 0:15:13.920 --> 0:15:15.640 Nobody says you have to put on lipstick but do 0:15:15.680 --> 0:15:17.760 a lip bomb, right, so that you don't have chap lips. 0:15:18.120 --> 0:15:18.680 I don't care. 0:15:19.200 --> 0:15:21.640 It's the little things that make you look a little 0:15:21.680 --> 0:15:24.920 bit more polished that it's like, oh, you got everything 0:15:24.920 --> 0:15:27.880 put together and you're not wearing anything different, right, But 0:15:28.000 --> 0:15:31.080 it is Can we iron our shirts before we go outside? 0:15:31.160 --> 0:15:31.360 Right? 0:15:31.800 --> 0:15:35.280 Those little things that help to tweak and polish you 0:15:35.360 --> 0:15:38.120 on a general basis. And then when you're talking about 0:15:38.160 --> 0:15:41.480 showing up as a professional and in your career, yeah, 0:15:41.520 --> 0:15:43.440 you do need to look a particular way, right. You 0:15:43.480 --> 0:15:45.440 do need to represent who you are as a brand. 0:15:45.840 --> 0:15:46.000 Now. 0:15:46.040 --> 0:15:48.120 Granted there are the likes of like Steve Jobs and 0:15:48.120 --> 0:15:52.480 all of that, but we know them for not their 0:15:52.520 --> 0:15:55.080 style and that they are trying to make the minimum 0:15:55.080 --> 0:15:59.080 decisions that they need to in their fashion. As a brand, 0:15:59.520 --> 0:16:01.160 you need to figure out what that looks like for 0:16:01.280 --> 0:16:05.640 you individually and then right making sure that you assign 0:16:06.160 --> 0:16:08.560 what you're wearing to that brand, to whatever it is 0:16:08.600 --> 0:16:09.160 that is for. 0:16:09.080 --> 0:16:14.200 You as black women, right, Like are we are policed 0:16:14.240 --> 0:16:17.760 in so many different ways our hair, you know, like 0:16:18.120 --> 0:16:20.920 the way we wear our makeup, Like even just like 0:16:21.000 --> 0:16:25.880 you're one of the reasons why I don't wear tight things, 0:16:25.960 --> 0:16:28.040 because I know I got a lot of booty, and 0:16:28.120 --> 0:16:33.720 so I know that unfortunately my natural body is perceived 0:16:33.760 --> 0:16:39.000 in some arenas, especially financial education, as unprofessional. There's nothing 0:16:39.040 --> 0:16:40.400 I've done, like this is how I was born. 0:16:40.760 --> 0:16:42.840 So there's the sexualization of black women's bodies. That's a 0:16:42.840 --> 0:16:48.040 whole other conversation. Yes, so what can like, as you know, what. 0:16:47.840 --> 0:16:49.600 Advice can you give for as we show up as 0:16:49.680 --> 0:16:53.040 black women with our bodies and how we just naturally look. 0:16:53.440 --> 0:16:58.040 You know, how can we create this like ladies foundation 0:16:58.080 --> 0:17:00.600 of professionalism without being like I got to hide my 0:17:00.600 --> 0:17:01.480 body in order to do. 0:17:01.480 --> 0:17:04.160 So, right, So there's a couple of things, I think. 0:17:04.200 --> 0:17:05.520 So one of the things that I go through with 0:17:05.520 --> 0:17:08.280 my clients is I do ask them to pick out words, right, 0:17:08.359 --> 0:17:13.440 So I tell them, choose three words that represent what 0:17:13.480 --> 0:17:15.280 you want to be known for. And I mean three 0:17:15.280 --> 0:17:18.320 words in terms of personality traits, right, whether that's intelligent, 0:17:18.320 --> 0:17:20.960 whether that's creative, whether that's a boss. What are those 0:17:21.000 --> 0:17:24.919 three words? And then pick two style words, right, so 0:17:24.960 --> 0:17:29.160 whether it's romantic or edgy or funky, and then use 0:17:29.240 --> 0:17:32.280 that to build your looks each morning. 0:17:32.680 --> 0:17:32.880 Right. 0:17:32.960 --> 0:17:39.800 So if I say that I am going to be edgy, creative, 0:17:40.680 --> 0:17:45.399 and welcoming, right, I'm not, and then I want to 0:17:45.400 --> 0:17:53.600 be edge of creative, welcoming, I said five, right, professional 0:17:53.880 --> 0:17:58.280 and fun. I'm not wearing all black every day, right, 0:17:58.840 --> 0:18:01.000 just because I'm trying to either high my body, hide 0:18:01.440 --> 0:18:05.120 who I am, right, hide my personality. I am going 0:18:05.200 --> 0:18:08.120 to wear bright colors. I'm going to wear patterns. I'm 0:18:08.160 --> 0:18:11.160 going to wear things that are a little bit more slick, right, 0:18:11.200 --> 0:18:14.240 So for me and that and those words can change too, right, 0:18:14.320 --> 0:18:16.800 So don't say these are the words that you're holding 0:18:16.800 --> 0:18:20.600 to and you can't ever change that. It's also based 0:18:20.640 --> 0:18:23.720 on context, right, So where are you going? How do 0:18:23.760 --> 0:18:25.840 you want to be seen within that community? Right within 0:18:25.880 --> 0:18:28.400 those people that you're going to and then using those 0:18:28.400 --> 0:18:30.760 words to change. And it's also based on how you feel. 0:18:31.040 --> 0:18:32.560 So you get up in the morning. There are days 0:18:32.560 --> 0:18:35.520 where you're like, you know what, I just want to 0:18:35.520 --> 0:18:37.359 get up and keep it moving. And so you're going 0:18:37.400 --> 0:18:39.280 to throw on a like jeans and T shirts. Okay, 0:18:39.720 --> 0:18:42.000 well what does that look like for that day? 0:18:42.160 --> 0:18:47.000 Right? Are you? Are you the bohemian that day? 0:18:47.080 --> 0:18:49.680 And so you're going to do jeens and write like 0:18:49.720 --> 0:18:52.040 a white oversized blouse and a pair of and do 0:18:52.200 --> 0:18:57.040 dentim and right like lots of brown leather. Or is 0:18:57.080 --> 0:19:00.359 it that you're going to do a sweatshirt like a 0:19:00.359 --> 0:19:03.520 hoodie and a leather jacket and a paradentalm right, two 0:19:03.520 --> 0:19:08.120 different looks, both casual, but both can still be fun 0:19:08.160 --> 0:19:10.840 and exciting for you. Right, you should enjoy getting dressed 0:19:10.840 --> 0:19:13.359 in the morning. That's the other thing, is that whatever 0:19:13.400 --> 0:19:16.159 you put on should bring you joy because how you 0:19:16.280 --> 0:19:18.640 dress also affection, mood. It's not just about how other 0:19:18.680 --> 0:19:21.800 people see you, but it's also how you see yourself. 0:19:22.400 --> 0:19:25.840 So those people who think about this way, even if 0:19:25.840 --> 0:19:28.920 you're wearing sweats, right, and if you put on sexy underwear, 0:19:29.000 --> 0:19:33.160 undersweats is a very different You stand differently, right, You 0:19:33.240 --> 0:19:37.160 move through your day differently, and so you want to be. 0:19:37.640 --> 0:19:40.240 Not pack panties, Tiffany, I'm graduated. 0:19:40.320 --> 0:19:41.480 I'm graduated from pack pans. 0:19:43.280 --> 0:19:47.480