1 00:00:00,320 --> 00:00:13,840 Speaker 1: Wow. What is Welcome to another edition of the NFL 2 00:00:13,960 --> 00:00:17,920 Speaker 1: Fantasy Live podcast, Your Marks Grand alongside the Fantasy Hall 3 00:00:17,960 --> 00:00:22,800 Speaker 1: of Famer Michael Fabiano and Graham Barfield. Back from Newport, Man. 4 00:00:22,800 --> 00:00:25,520 Speaker 1: How was Newport's good family came to town. It's their 5 00:00:25,560 --> 00:00:29,000 Speaker 1: first time I was spending significant time out of here, 6 00:00:29,120 --> 00:00:30,680 Speaker 1: so they really enjoyed it. We went to the beach, 7 00:00:30,720 --> 00:00:33,279 Speaker 1: got some good food. The gloom kind of stayed off 8 00:00:33,280 --> 00:00:35,080 Speaker 1: for the first three days. It was nice. Yeah, I 9 00:00:35,120 --> 00:00:37,640 Speaker 1: was getting tired of this gloom. I mean you like, 10 00:00:37,680 --> 00:00:40,280 Speaker 1: this is a thing now it's just yeah. Yeah, it 11 00:00:40,320 --> 00:00:42,120 Speaker 1: could be worse, and it hasn't been as bad this year. 12 00:00:42,600 --> 00:00:44,199 Speaker 1: I mean again, the people, I'm sure in other parts 13 00:00:44,240 --> 00:00:45,640 Speaker 1: of the country don't want to hear people in a 14 00:00:45,840 --> 00:00:50,680 Speaker 1: complaining about a few clouds, you know. But but yeah, 15 00:00:50,840 --> 00:00:53,960 Speaker 1: so I got a pointed to talk about today. UM 16 00:00:53,960 --> 00:00:56,240 Speaker 1: doing an addition of hype train or smoke screen because 17 00:00:56,240 --> 00:00:58,680 Speaker 1: we're getting towards that time of year when everybody is 18 00:00:58,720 --> 00:01:00,880 Speaker 1: feeling great. You know, I haven't done on a B 19 00:01:01,120 --> 00:01:02,880 Speaker 1: S O H L update the you guys who were 20 00:01:02,880 --> 00:01:05,640 Speaker 1: in the best shape of their lives. Um, I don't 21 00:01:05,640 --> 00:01:07,400 Speaker 1: have to get on that. But the hype trainers smoke 22 00:01:07,480 --> 00:01:09,560 Speaker 1: screen because guys are starting to, you know, talk up 23 00:01:09,560 --> 00:01:12,960 Speaker 1: their seasons hard knocks. We have a team for hard Knocks. 24 00:01:13,000 --> 00:01:15,399 Speaker 1: We'll talk a little bit about that, uh and kind 25 00:01:15,400 --> 00:01:18,000 Speaker 1: of do a social pole sort of around that as well. 26 00:01:18,000 --> 00:01:19,919 Speaker 1: But before we get too deep into the show, as always, 27 00:01:19,959 --> 00:01:21,880 Speaker 1: we go behind the glass and talk to our faithful producer, 28 00:01:21,920 --> 00:01:25,000 Speaker 1: Senior Edward L. Murphy. Esquire, Murph, what's up? So if guys, 29 00:01:25,120 --> 00:01:26,840 Speaker 1: grand I gotta ask you just doing a little mini 30 00:01:26,880 --> 00:01:30,479 Speaker 1: vacation myself? Do you need a vacation now from your 31 00:01:30,520 --> 00:01:32,800 Speaker 1: vacation or you with a nice relaxing when did you 32 00:01:32,880 --> 00:01:34,720 Speaker 1: run around a loot with the with the fan? It 33 00:01:34,840 --> 00:01:37,000 Speaker 1: was good. No, I don't need a vacation from vacation. 34 00:01:37,040 --> 00:01:39,520 Speaker 1: I also went to Pebble Beach for the US Open. Right, yeah, 35 00:01:39,600 --> 00:01:43,160 Speaker 1: how was that? Oh my gosh, man, pell Beach is beautiful, beautiful. 36 00:01:43,280 --> 00:01:45,959 Speaker 1: That is the most beautiful golf course I've ever walked. 37 00:01:46,400 --> 00:01:48,800 Speaker 1: Walked one day eight team yesterday watched my my guy 38 00:01:48,880 --> 00:01:53,360 Speaker 1: Gary Woodland. Wow through Yeah, it was beautiful golf course though. 39 00:01:53,400 --> 00:01:55,360 Speaker 1: I mean that it's just so so cool, so scenic. 40 00:01:55,440 --> 00:01:58,960 Speaker 1: I mean the sixth whole six through twelve. Just TV 41 00:01:59,080 --> 00:02:01,640 Speaker 1: doesn't do it justice. I've I've never been there for 42 00:02:01,880 --> 00:02:04,720 Speaker 1: actual golf, but you know, as a kid, my my 43 00:02:04,800 --> 00:02:06,640 Speaker 1: dad loves that area, so we would go vacation there. 44 00:02:06,680 --> 00:02:08,560 Speaker 1: We've done the seventeen mile drive and you go through 45 00:02:08,560 --> 00:02:11,040 Speaker 1: a lot of that stuff. Yeah, the seventeen mile drive 46 00:02:11,080 --> 00:02:13,800 Speaker 1: blew my mind. Awesome. I did not feel like so 47 00:02:13,840 --> 00:02:18,680 Speaker 1: much cool stuff in America. So yeah, it's it's fantastic. 48 00:02:18,680 --> 00:02:20,560 Speaker 1: So I got plenty to talk about. So as we 49 00:02:20,600 --> 00:02:22,200 Speaker 1: do get into it, let we always do. Let's do 50 00:02:22,280 --> 00:02:36,880 Speaker 1: some news, you know what, I'm gonna scrap what we 51 00:02:36,919 --> 00:02:39,280 Speaker 1: have here, not scrap, but to add something on the fly. 52 00:02:39,440 --> 00:02:41,679 Speaker 1: Here is as we're doing this, Josh McCown has retired. 53 00:02:42,440 --> 00:02:46,320 Speaker 1: Hey the I mean, I wonder if the Hartford Colonials 54 00:02:46,320 --> 00:02:51,520 Speaker 1: will retire his jersey. He had a good career though 55 00:02:51,680 --> 00:02:54,560 Speaker 1: that I remember the thing I remember about mcconnem most. 56 00:02:54,760 --> 00:02:56,359 Speaker 1: He was with the Cardinals, and I remember I think 57 00:02:56,360 --> 00:02:57,920 Speaker 1: it was like a Thursday night game They're playing the 58 00:02:57,960 --> 00:03:01,560 Speaker 1: forty niners, and he was like my big quarterback sleeper 59 00:03:01,680 --> 00:03:04,160 Speaker 1: that week, and he just went off and had a 60 00:03:04,240 --> 00:03:07,960 Speaker 1: huge game. I always remember that particular game when I 61 00:03:08,000 --> 00:03:10,079 Speaker 1: think of Josh McCown and the fact that he played 62 00:03:10,560 --> 00:03:13,320 Speaker 1: for the Harvard Colon. How many years until Josh McCown 63 00:03:13,360 --> 00:03:17,679 Speaker 1: becomes a coach in the NFL? Like, yeah, it won't 64 00:03:17,680 --> 00:03:20,160 Speaker 1: be long at all before he becomes a coach. Um 65 00:03:20,320 --> 00:03:26,239 Speaker 1: this best season seen with the Jets. Uh started thirteen games, yards, 66 00:03:26,280 --> 00:03:29,600 Speaker 1: eighteen touchdowns, nine interceptions, and it was actually a very 67 00:03:29,720 --> 00:03:32,120 Speaker 1: usable fantasy creet That was also the season? Was that 68 00:03:32,160 --> 00:03:34,480 Speaker 1: the season when he got helicopter trying to score on 69 00:03:34,480 --> 00:03:36,360 Speaker 1: a run and just got it. Might have been I 70 00:03:36,400 --> 00:03:39,600 Speaker 1: can't remember, I smoked right near the goal. Played for 71 00:03:39,600 --> 00:03:41,680 Speaker 1: a lot of teams, played for a lot of different teams. 72 00:03:41,680 --> 00:03:44,440 Speaker 1: Started with the Cardinals, a year at the Lions, year 73 00:03:44,520 --> 00:03:47,720 Speaker 1: with the Raiders. Wasn't seventeen season where he broke his 74 00:03:47,760 --> 00:03:50,120 Speaker 1: collar bone and came back into the game or something? Yeah, 75 00:03:50,200 --> 00:03:53,720 Speaker 1: I think so Hill? Yeah yeah, a machine Yeah, man, Um, 76 00:03:53,800 --> 00:03:55,800 Speaker 1: I think we're all agreed he's not making the fantasy 77 00:03:56,080 --> 00:03:58,360 Speaker 1: Ring of Honor. But where did Where did he go 78 00:03:58,400 --> 00:04:00,520 Speaker 1: to school? Was it was like Sam Hughes in State 79 00:04:00,680 --> 00:04:02,640 Speaker 1: or something. Yeah, I think he's I don't know if 80 00:04:02,640 --> 00:04:04,160 Speaker 1: he started there and went to s m U or 81 00:04:04,200 --> 00:04:06,160 Speaker 1: the other way. Around, but he he did spend some 82 00:04:06,160 --> 00:04:08,560 Speaker 1: time in MU as well. But hey, hats off to 83 00:04:08,640 --> 00:04:12,240 Speaker 1: Josh McCown A long long I don't think anybody would 84 00:04:12,280 --> 00:04:13,880 Speaker 1: have ever imagined that he would be in the league. 85 00:04:13,920 --> 00:04:16,279 Speaker 1: What's seventeen years as long as he was, so a 86 00:04:16,320 --> 00:04:20,080 Speaker 1: long time. Yeah, So congratulations on his retirement. Other news, 87 00:04:20,640 --> 00:04:23,760 Speaker 1: James Conner says the running back touches in Pittsburgh will 88 00:04:23,800 --> 00:04:28,040 Speaker 1: be spread out evenly. The drumbeat about a committee in 89 00:04:28,080 --> 00:04:31,320 Speaker 1: Pittsburgh just keeps getting louder man it is, and I've 90 00:04:31,400 --> 00:04:33,640 Speaker 1: kind of reformed my opinion on it. I still think 91 00:04:33,680 --> 00:04:37,360 Speaker 1: James Conner could be an RB one and fantacy this year. Um, 92 00:04:37,400 --> 00:04:40,360 Speaker 1: but yeah, it definitely seems like the drumbeat is very, 93 00:04:40,440 --> 00:04:43,160 Speaker 1: very loud that Steelers want to get Jalen Samuel's involved. 94 00:04:43,200 --> 00:04:46,000 Speaker 1: They like Benny snow took him in the fourth round 95 00:04:46,040 --> 00:04:49,520 Speaker 1: this year. James Conner obviously coming off a breakout season 96 00:04:49,600 --> 00:04:52,080 Speaker 1: within those thirteen games, but I kind of agree. I 97 00:04:52,360 --> 00:04:54,320 Speaker 1: think I've I've kind of come around a little bit. 98 00:04:54,360 --> 00:04:57,280 Speaker 1: I think the Steelers are definitely probably gonna get the 99 00:04:57,360 --> 00:04:59,240 Speaker 1: very least they're gonna get Samuel's involved, So the second 100 00:04:59,320 --> 00:05:01,680 Speaker 1: round or now at this way for sure, because I've 101 00:05:01,720 --> 00:05:03,680 Speaker 1: seen it. I mean, we talked about it last week, 102 00:05:04,120 --> 00:05:06,680 Speaker 1: where you know, he was going ahead of girly um 103 00:05:06,800 --> 00:05:09,080 Speaker 1: and right in that David Johnson sort of range, and 104 00:05:09,120 --> 00:05:10,800 Speaker 1: so now it seems like he's gonna be dropping he 105 00:05:10,800 --> 00:05:13,520 Speaker 1: won't drop out of the second round. And I'm I 106 00:05:13,560 --> 00:05:15,440 Speaker 1: still it's sort of like one of those situations like 107 00:05:16,000 --> 00:05:18,800 Speaker 1: when I see it, I'll believe it because Tomlins always 108 00:05:18,839 --> 00:05:21,719 Speaker 1: gone with a featured back, whether it's been Levian or 109 00:05:21,800 --> 00:05:25,480 Speaker 1: D'Angelo I mean, Willie Parker. I mean, it's always been 110 00:05:25,480 --> 00:05:28,000 Speaker 1: a feature I mean Jalen Samuel was featured last season 111 00:05:28,200 --> 00:05:30,000 Speaker 1: when when Connor went down. So I wonder if maybe 112 00:05:30,000 --> 00:05:32,200 Speaker 1: it's are there question marks about whether or not Connor 113 00:05:32,200 --> 00:05:34,680 Speaker 1: can handle the workload of a true featured back over 114 00:05:34,720 --> 00:05:37,800 Speaker 1: a sixteen game season. Um, are they going to utilize 115 00:05:37,839 --> 00:05:39,880 Speaker 1: Samuel's a little bit more in the passing game and 116 00:05:39,920 --> 00:05:42,560 Speaker 1: Connor will lose some of those opportunities. I think what's 117 00:05:42,560 --> 00:05:44,760 Speaker 1: most likely to happen here is like Levon bell And 118 00:05:44,760 --> 00:05:47,120 Speaker 1: and D'Angelo Williams in the past couple years, they're running 119 00:05:47,120 --> 00:05:50,159 Speaker 1: backs have played of team snaps every single week. I 120 00:05:50,160 --> 00:05:52,360 Speaker 1: think that's probably the most likely. Things like Connor ends 121 00:05:52,440 --> 00:05:55,080 Speaker 1: up playing like getting six of the team snaps and 122 00:05:55,080 --> 00:05:57,080 Speaker 1: they just mixed more, you know, Samuel's and snell In 123 00:05:57,120 --> 00:06:00,719 Speaker 1: a little bit more, which will limit Connor's ultimate ceiling. 124 00:06:00,760 --> 00:06:03,520 Speaker 1: You know, we obviously want more touches. But um yeah, 125 00:06:03,560 --> 00:06:05,760 Speaker 1: this is still a pretty pretty green light spot for Connor, 126 00:06:05,800 --> 00:06:07,800 Speaker 1: even if we do take a few snaps away from me. 127 00:06:08,200 --> 00:06:09,840 Speaker 1: You know, the other part of this though, brand new 128 00:06:09,839 --> 00:06:14,000 Speaker 1: offensive coordinator if Pittsburgh, Randy Fickner, who to this point 129 00:06:14,240 --> 00:06:17,440 Speaker 1: has only been an o C in college. Um So, 130 00:06:17,520 --> 00:06:19,640 Speaker 1: if somebody out there wants to be through some Arkansas 131 00:06:19,680 --> 00:06:23,240 Speaker 1: State tape and hook us up with some some tendencies, 132 00:06:23,760 --> 00:06:26,160 Speaker 1: were glad for it. Fickner has been the he was 133 00:06:26,200 --> 00:06:29,200 Speaker 1: a quarterback coach in Pittsburgh for a really long for 134 00:06:29,240 --> 00:06:32,080 Speaker 1: a while, so technically, I guess tendency wise, maybe we 135 00:06:32,080 --> 00:06:35,080 Speaker 1: could expect some some similar tendencies with their running back workload. 136 00:06:35,120 --> 00:06:38,440 Speaker 1: But yeah, I mean it does kind of sock like 137 00:06:38,640 --> 00:06:40,640 Speaker 1: we won't get a work horse Steelers running back this year. 138 00:06:41,279 --> 00:06:42,800 Speaker 1: I think we maybe an other part of that though, 139 00:06:42,839 --> 00:06:45,479 Speaker 1: if and I agree, I think if people start to 140 00:06:45,520 --> 00:06:48,520 Speaker 1: believe this, Connor who's kind of fringe into the first 141 00:06:48,600 --> 00:06:51,880 Speaker 1: round right now drops out, who slides in Julio Jones, 142 00:06:52,080 --> 00:06:53,880 Speaker 1: Michael Thomas. I mean, I feel like I feel like 143 00:06:53,920 --> 00:06:56,839 Speaker 1: it's probably a receiver that probably jumps into the Adams 144 00:06:56,920 --> 00:06:59,480 Speaker 1: is already basically going at the end of the first round. 145 00:06:59,520 --> 00:07:01,520 Speaker 1: He and he in nuper kind of battling for that 146 00:07:02,360 --> 00:07:04,839 Speaker 1: one spot right now. So I think no doubt it's 147 00:07:04,839 --> 00:07:08,039 Speaker 1: Mike T Julio. We take O'Dell Beckham Overconnor to now, 148 00:07:08,080 --> 00:07:11,320 Speaker 1: I think it may I consider that a consider that 149 00:07:11,920 --> 00:07:14,600 Speaker 1: other news, Ronald Jones says he's ready to put his 150 00:07:14,640 --> 00:07:18,280 Speaker 1: disappointing rookie season in the past. This is a name 151 00:07:18,480 --> 00:07:20,560 Speaker 1: that I'm starting to hear a little bit more of 152 00:07:20,640 --> 00:07:22,080 Speaker 1: in the last couple of I think we gave this 153 00:07:22,080 --> 00:07:23,440 Speaker 1: one to you because you're the u s from the 154 00:07:23,520 --> 00:07:25,720 Speaker 1: USC guys. Look, so I will I will preface it 155 00:07:25,760 --> 00:07:30,040 Speaker 1: by saying I I had high hopes for Rojoe coming 156 00:07:30,040 --> 00:07:32,720 Speaker 1: out of the draft last year. Obviously, last year was 157 00:07:32,800 --> 00:07:35,320 Speaker 1: a disaster in pretty much every sense of the word. 158 00:07:35,360 --> 00:07:37,520 Speaker 1: He could barely get on the field, was not productive 159 00:07:37,560 --> 00:07:40,400 Speaker 1: when he was on the field. But I think the 160 00:07:40,440 --> 00:07:43,920 Speaker 1: consensus was he was one of the big winners of 161 00:07:43,920 --> 00:07:45,840 Speaker 1: the off season in the sense that the Bucks didn't 162 00:07:45,880 --> 00:07:48,320 Speaker 1: do anything to really shore up that running backs. So 163 00:07:48,360 --> 00:07:51,040 Speaker 1: strange because they are one of the teams that was 164 00:07:51,120 --> 00:07:52,880 Speaker 1: most in need of a running back and they didn't 165 00:07:52,880 --> 00:07:55,800 Speaker 1: do anything right. So so, I mean, he averaged one 166 00:07:55,800 --> 00:07:58,480 Speaker 1: point nine yards per attempt last season. He's only got 167 00:07:58,480 --> 00:08:00,800 Speaker 1: Peyton Barber ahead of him on the depth chart. Peyton 168 00:08:00,840 --> 00:08:03,520 Speaker 1: actually was decent towards the end of the last season 169 00:08:03,520 --> 00:08:05,920 Speaker 1: for fantasy owners. So I kind of think this is 170 00:08:05,920 --> 00:08:07,920 Speaker 1: going to be a committee. But because of his youth, 171 00:08:08,280 --> 00:08:11,800 Speaker 1: because of projected upside, I still say he'll get drafted 172 00:08:11,840 --> 00:08:14,040 Speaker 1: ahead of Peyton Barber. Yeah, I think you will. Um. 173 00:08:14,080 --> 00:08:16,960 Speaker 1: I mean, he's still gonna be a late, late draft pick, um, 174 00:08:17,000 --> 00:08:18,440 Speaker 1: if at all. I'm sure that we plenty of the 175 00:08:18,480 --> 00:08:20,720 Speaker 1: leagues where he doesn't come off the board. And I 176 00:08:20,760 --> 00:08:23,760 Speaker 1: think if there's any reason for optimism, it's that, you know, hey, 177 00:08:23,760 --> 00:08:26,160 Speaker 1: maybe Bruce arians can do something with him and kind 178 00:08:26,160 --> 00:08:29,840 Speaker 1: of give him going again. Yeah. I think what what's 179 00:08:29,880 --> 00:08:32,080 Speaker 1: most likely happened though, is like Barbara and Jonones just 180 00:08:32,120 --> 00:08:34,280 Speaker 1: both get you know, like ten twelve touches the game 181 00:08:34,320 --> 00:08:37,439 Speaker 1: and just kind of cancel it. I guess I've been 182 00:08:38,040 --> 00:08:39,840 Speaker 1: I've been hoping for this all offseason and the Bucks 183 00:08:39,880 --> 00:08:42,400 Speaker 1: just go extremely pass heavy and like Evans Godwin and 184 00:08:42,480 --> 00:08:45,080 Speaker 1: Hodward you know Howard just go to. Jamis is going 185 00:08:45,120 --> 00:08:47,920 Speaker 1: to be one of the biggest, like potential late around 186 00:08:47,960 --> 00:08:52,520 Speaker 1: bargains in fantasy football. Jamis. I'm at a point with 187 00:08:52,679 --> 00:08:55,760 Speaker 1: Jamis were like we were easily year five. Now with 188 00:08:55,880 --> 00:08:58,280 Speaker 1: Jami's like, we still don't really know what he is, 189 00:08:58,559 --> 00:09:00,959 Speaker 1: Like just we're gonna find know this year. With Bruce Man, 190 00:09:01,120 --> 00:09:03,000 Speaker 1: I think so, but we we will. I mean, the 191 00:09:03,200 --> 00:09:08,040 Speaker 1: there weapons are just stellar. They're all young, all technically 192 00:09:08,200 --> 00:09:11,240 Speaker 1: entering the peaks of their career. Chris Godwin, baby, I mean, 193 00:09:12,520 --> 00:09:14,800 Speaker 1: if Bruce can getting him to throw a better deep ball, 194 00:09:15,320 --> 00:09:17,840 Speaker 1: it's all good. I mean, I really truly never thought 195 00:09:17,880 --> 00:09:20,880 Speaker 1: I could see somebody overthrow to Sean Jackson as consistently 196 00:09:20,880 --> 00:09:23,480 Speaker 1: as Jamis wins. So, I mean, Jamis is obviously a 197 00:09:23,480 --> 00:09:25,280 Speaker 1: gun slinger. I think that kind of comes with a 198 00:09:25,280 --> 00:09:28,160 Speaker 1: connotation that he's good at throwing, but he's not ever been. 199 00:09:28,360 --> 00:09:30,520 Speaker 1: He's not. He's never it's four years in the NFL. 200 00:09:30,600 --> 00:09:33,480 Speaker 1: He's never been that great throwing over And let's also 201 00:09:33,520 --> 00:09:37,920 Speaker 1: remember too that last year, the combination of Jamis and 202 00:09:38,080 --> 00:09:45,080 Speaker 1: fits Magic was was like one of the best quarterbacks 203 00:09:45,120 --> 00:09:47,400 Speaker 1: behind Homes. I mean, and at this point, I mean, 204 00:09:47,600 --> 00:09:51,720 Speaker 1: you're looking at Tampa's depth chart and fits Magic is 205 00:09:51,760 --> 00:09:55,240 Speaker 1: now no longer in the mix. Backup quarterbacks are Ryan Grip, 206 00:09:56,000 --> 00:09:59,680 Speaker 1: So I mean it's Jamis is not going to lose 207 00:09:59,720 --> 00:10:02,720 Speaker 1: that top um. You wanna talk about a duo that 208 00:10:02,800 --> 00:10:04,720 Speaker 1: was greater than some of its parts, man, I mean, 209 00:10:04,800 --> 00:10:07,839 Speaker 1: like he's like Jamie's and Fitzpatrick separately and they're both 210 00:10:07,880 --> 00:10:10,800 Speaker 1: kind of like yeah, but together they somehow they formed 211 00:10:10,800 --> 00:10:13,080 Speaker 1: like vultron and became a great fits Patrick like earlier 212 00:10:13,080 --> 00:10:15,400 Speaker 1: in the season, was just he was he was nuts. 213 00:10:15,440 --> 00:10:17,480 Speaker 1: He was putting up huge numbers and he was like 214 00:10:17,520 --> 00:10:19,480 Speaker 1: that player and it happens every season where like the 215 00:10:19,559 --> 00:10:20,880 Speaker 1: numbers are there and you look him on the waiver 216 00:10:20,920 --> 00:10:23,240 Speaker 1: wine you're like, you can't keep up, and then you 217 00:10:23,240 --> 00:10:25,360 Speaker 1: don't pick him up. And that's that's kind of what 218 00:10:25,400 --> 00:10:28,640 Speaker 1: he what he became. But then it was just you know, 219 00:10:28,880 --> 00:10:31,720 Speaker 1: Catcher's catch can if he was the quarterback, he was 220 00:10:31,720 --> 00:10:34,440 Speaker 1: startable in fantasy. If it was Winston who was the quarterback, 221 00:10:34,559 --> 00:10:37,600 Speaker 1: he was startable in fantasy just because of the offense 222 00:10:37,600 --> 00:10:39,920 Speaker 1: and the fact that the Buccaneers played from behind a lot. Yeah, 223 00:10:39,960 --> 00:10:44,719 Speaker 1: pretty much after Washington, Jake Gruden says Dwayne Haskins deserves 224 00:10:44,760 --> 00:10:48,559 Speaker 1: a shot to start. Um, I mean, I don't think 225 00:10:48,600 --> 00:10:50,840 Speaker 1: that's a ridiculous statement. When you look at the depth 226 00:10:50,920 --> 00:10:53,880 Speaker 1: chart at quarterback there in Washington. You know Alex Smith 227 00:10:53,880 --> 00:10:56,240 Speaker 1: obviously not expected to play at all this year, and 228 00:10:56,280 --> 00:10:58,760 Speaker 1: so they're gonna try and I guess the piece meals 229 00:10:58,760 --> 00:11:03,920 Speaker 1: something together offensive. Um, So, if Dwayne Haskins is a 230 00:11:04,000 --> 00:11:06,360 Speaker 1: starter FABS, do you look at draft that you consider 231 00:11:06,520 --> 00:11:09,640 Speaker 1: drafting him? And if so, where No? I mean so, 232 00:11:09,840 --> 00:11:12,560 Speaker 1: I mean we're we're in the point of the off 233 00:11:12,559 --> 00:11:14,040 Speaker 1: season where we're starting to do a lot of mock 234 00:11:14,160 --> 00:11:17,880 Speaker 1: drafts and industry drafts. I mean, like Ben Roethlisberg is 235 00:11:17,880 --> 00:11:20,599 Speaker 1: not getting drafted, and and I've been in draft with 236 00:11:20,679 --> 00:11:24,040 Speaker 1: Tom Brady hasn't gotten drafted, and Kirk Cousins isn't getting drafted. 237 00:11:24,360 --> 00:11:27,040 Speaker 1: Like there's no way this guy's getting drafted in a 238 00:11:27,120 --> 00:11:30,080 Speaker 1: in a standard redraft. It's just not speaking of speaking 239 00:11:30,080 --> 00:11:31,800 Speaker 1: of which I mean, I mean, guys is going to 240 00:11:31,880 --> 00:11:33,960 Speaker 1: go in the fifth, six seventh round of all drafts. 241 00:11:34,559 --> 00:11:37,720 Speaker 1: Outside of guys, I mean, really, the only other draftable 242 00:11:37,880 --> 00:11:40,840 Speaker 1: player on the Redskins this year is Jordan Reid, right, 243 00:11:40,880 --> 00:11:43,000 Speaker 1: I mean the receivers well, yeah, I mean Dockson has 244 00:11:43,040 --> 00:11:45,640 Speaker 1: been an abject disaster since he's coming to the league. 245 00:11:46,040 --> 00:11:47,959 Speaker 1: Somebody may take a flyer on him late, but just 246 00:11:48,000 --> 00:11:52,440 Speaker 1: because of potential opportunities and we're not have been talking 247 00:11:52,440 --> 00:11:54,200 Speaker 1: about the old dude who rushed for a thousand yards 248 00:11:54,280 --> 00:11:56,960 Speaker 1: last season. Yeah, I mean, so this team is just 249 00:11:57,960 --> 00:12:01,760 Speaker 1: I don't know, man, if Haskins starts to I mean, like, 250 00:12:01,840 --> 00:12:05,440 Speaker 1: I just between Keenum and Haskins, they could end up 251 00:12:05,440 --> 00:12:08,320 Speaker 1: being one of the worst teams in the league. I 252 00:12:08,360 --> 00:12:12,160 Speaker 1: just don't. I don't see a path where more than 253 00:12:12,240 --> 00:12:14,640 Speaker 1: one or two people are fantasy relevant. And I just 254 00:12:14,679 --> 00:12:18,160 Speaker 1: think even their fantasy relevant guys will just be kind 255 00:12:18,160 --> 00:12:20,240 Speaker 1: of average. Like, I don't, I don't see any really 256 00:12:20,280 --> 00:12:22,000 Speaker 1: stand out there. I don't. There's no one on that 257 00:12:22,120 --> 00:12:24,400 Speaker 1: roster that you can draft and feel like, you know what, 258 00:12:24,960 --> 00:12:26,920 Speaker 1: more more often than not, I will be starting for 259 00:12:27,040 --> 00:12:29,760 Speaker 1: what it's where the Redskins should start Haskins week one, 260 00:12:29,800 --> 00:12:31,839 Speaker 1: because we know what case keenum Is and let's go 261 00:12:31,920 --> 00:12:34,199 Speaker 1: ahead and just find out just let's figure figure if 262 00:12:34,200 --> 00:12:36,520 Speaker 1: you if if you've got something in Haskins figured out 263 00:12:36,520 --> 00:12:39,200 Speaker 1: now if he's ready to start startom especially in a division, 264 00:12:39,240 --> 00:12:41,160 Speaker 1: I mean just from a football standpoint, in a division 265 00:12:41,200 --> 00:12:43,400 Speaker 1: where you've got the Eagles and the Cowboys who are 266 00:12:43,640 --> 00:12:46,400 Speaker 1: who are on paper significantly better than you, like, why 267 00:12:46,600 --> 00:12:48,079 Speaker 1: why why not just figure out what you can and 268 00:12:48,120 --> 00:12:49,720 Speaker 1: also think about it to the guys that they do 269 00:12:49,800 --> 00:12:52,760 Speaker 1: have that are fantasy relevant. Uh, Chris Thompson has been 270 00:12:52,880 --> 00:12:57,119 Speaker 1: super injury prone. Jordan read I mean in the dictionary 271 00:12:57,160 --> 00:12:59,080 Speaker 1: next to injury prone and got a picture of him. 272 00:12:59,720 --> 00:13:03,600 Speaker 1: So there's there. There's I mean, Darius is coming off 273 00:13:03,640 --> 00:13:06,640 Speaker 1: of a serious knee injury as well, but he looks 274 00:13:06,679 --> 00:13:08,920 Speaker 1: good if you look at his social media. This team 275 00:13:08,960 --> 00:13:11,160 Speaker 1: could be such a disaster, especially if Trent Williams is 276 00:13:11,160 --> 00:13:13,360 Speaker 1: off the roster next year. He's very unhappy with this contract. 277 00:13:13,840 --> 00:13:16,559 Speaker 1: There's I was listening to serious NFL radio, I mean 278 00:13:16,720 --> 00:13:19,040 Speaker 1: where they're smoke, there's fire there, dude, Like, think about 279 00:13:19,040 --> 00:13:21,240 Speaker 1: the players that play for the Redskins who have had 280 00:13:21,280 --> 00:13:25,800 Speaker 1: issues in terms of like Alex Smith, Darius Right, Williams. 281 00:13:26,320 --> 00:13:29,640 Speaker 1: So their their team management too in terms of their injury. 282 00:13:29,640 --> 00:13:31,600 Speaker 1: Like in terms of injury management, I mean Trent Williams 283 00:13:31,640 --> 00:13:34,760 Speaker 1: has been dealt with injuries the past couple of years 284 00:13:34,800 --> 00:13:36,760 Speaker 1: and you know kind of had some setbacks. Darius Guys 285 00:13:36,800 --> 00:13:39,439 Speaker 1: has had to have his knee. Yeah, he had infections. 286 00:13:39,520 --> 00:13:42,760 Speaker 1: Alex had infections also in his surgery. So like there's 287 00:13:43,559 --> 00:13:46,480 Speaker 1: again where there's smoke, there's fire there in Washington. Uh, 288 00:13:46,679 --> 00:13:48,480 Speaker 1: it's going to be an interesting situation. And that's why 289 00:13:48,520 --> 00:13:50,680 Speaker 1: Williams wants out. That's why he wants out. And this 290 00:13:50,720 --> 00:13:51,880 Speaker 1: is gonna be a team that I think a lot 291 00:13:51,880 --> 00:13:55,320 Speaker 1: of people shy away from in fantasy drafts. Over in 292 00:13:55,440 --> 00:13:59,600 Speaker 1: Green Bay, Marquez Valdez Scantling quote is probably the number 293 00:13:59,640 --> 00:14:03,000 Speaker 1: two receiver in Green Bay this year. I know, FABS 294 00:14:03,080 --> 00:14:05,320 Speaker 1: last week when we talked about it, you kind of 295 00:14:05,320 --> 00:14:08,520 Speaker 1: targeted Geronimo Allison, which looks that's not It wasn't crazy, 296 00:14:08,559 --> 00:14:12,320 Speaker 1: It makes makes perfect sense. Uh MVS now seems to 297 00:14:12,440 --> 00:14:15,160 Speaker 1: be the guy, at least according to some reports. Does 298 00:14:15,160 --> 00:14:17,760 Speaker 1: this mean we have to change our draft ranks? Accordingly? 299 00:14:18,160 --> 00:14:20,640 Speaker 1: I want to wait and see. Honestly, I mean they 300 00:14:20,680 --> 00:14:23,240 Speaker 1: both when they had an opportunity. Last season, they both 301 00:14:23,240 --> 00:14:26,720 Speaker 1: showed some flashes. Like people forget that when Doonoo Allison 302 00:14:26,760 --> 00:14:28,560 Speaker 1: was on the field before he went down with the 303 00:14:28,640 --> 00:14:31,760 Speaker 1: with the injury, he was putting up double digit Fantasy points. 304 00:14:31,760 --> 00:14:34,920 Speaker 1: Like in PPR leagues. It wasn't you know, eighteen nine twenty. 305 00:14:35,240 --> 00:14:39,560 Speaker 1: But if you're getting low double digits from a number 306 00:14:39,560 --> 00:14:41,840 Speaker 1: three wide receiver or a flex starter, especially if you're 307 00:14:41,840 --> 00:14:43,640 Speaker 1: in a deeper league. I mean, I remember starting this 308 00:14:43,640 --> 00:14:45,280 Speaker 1: guy a couple of times before he went down with 309 00:14:45,320 --> 00:14:47,160 Speaker 1: the injury, and then we had the same thing with 310 00:14:47,320 --> 00:14:49,600 Speaker 1: MVS where he had some games where he was putting 311 00:14:49,640 --> 00:14:51,560 Speaker 1: up some numbers and then it kind of tailed off 312 00:14:51,640 --> 00:14:53,840 Speaker 1: a little bit. So it's gonna be an interesting battle. 313 00:14:53,840 --> 00:14:55,600 Speaker 1: I think these are the two guys that you're gonna 314 00:14:55,600 --> 00:14:59,920 Speaker 1: be targeting behind Davante Adams, far behind Adams, way behind 315 00:14:59,920 --> 00:15:02,120 Speaker 1: the but they're both worth late ron flyers. You know, 316 00:15:02,160 --> 00:15:05,160 Speaker 1: the thing about this Graham is that when when Aaron 317 00:15:05,240 --> 00:15:07,360 Speaker 1: Rodgers is right and when that offense is right, in 318 00:15:07,400 --> 00:15:10,400 Speaker 1: the past, we've seen he's able to sustain two or 319 00:15:10,440 --> 00:15:12,400 Speaker 1: three wide receivers. I mean, you know there were years 320 00:15:12,440 --> 00:15:15,840 Speaker 1: where you you had Jordy Nelson, Davante Adams, Randall Cobb 321 00:15:15,880 --> 00:15:17,640 Speaker 1: All kind of getting some work in there. So if 322 00:15:17,920 --> 00:15:20,480 Speaker 1: if this new offense, you know under Matt Lafleur, he 323 00:15:20,840 --> 00:15:25,240 Speaker 1: of the the busted ankle, now, uh, he's actually sitting 324 00:15:25,280 --> 00:15:28,520 Speaker 1: on a cart, golf cart, Matt la Fleur, Kevin Durant 325 00:15:28,560 --> 00:15:33,760 Speaker 1: there like exactly the same person. Um, alright, poor Warriors. Alright, 326 00:15:35,560 --> 00:15:37,600 Speaker 1: but you know, I mean, if if this offense really, 327 00:15:37,680 --> 00:15:41,200 Speaker 1: you know, has the revival that people expect, uh, then 328 00:15:41,240 --> 00:15:43,160 Speaker 1: there is more than just Davantae Adams to look at 329 00:15:43,240 --> 00:15:46,760 Speaker 1: that offense for sure. Um, last year, before Allison went 330 00:15:46,760 --> 00:15:49,360 Speaker 1: down to use the receiver, twenty six and PPR right 331 00:15:49,400 --> 00:15:51,960 Speaker 1: outside of the top twenty four had I think six 332 00:15:52,080 --> 00:15:54,560 Speaker 1: year six yards and or a touchdown in every single game. 333 00:15:55,280 --> 00:15:58,160 Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers, you mentioned it. Prior to last season, he 334 00:15:58,200 --> 00:16:01,640 Speaker 1: had supported to simultaneous twenty four receivers in six of 335 00:16:01,640 --> 00:16:03,960 Speaker 1: eight seasons. Six out of eight seasons he had to 336 00:16:04,080 --> 00:16:08,280 Speaker 1: top two two top twenty four receivers. I'm just taking 337 00:16:08,280 --> 00:16:10,560 Speaker 1: Allison an NBS in all my weeks. Just target both 338 00:16:10,560 --> 00:16:13,240 Speaker 1: of them. They're both going well past eighth, ninth round. 339 00:16:13,360 --> 00:16:17,440 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, just just just get both absolutely another wide 340 00:16:17,440 --> 00:16:20,479 Speaker 1: receiver who will be very popular this year, Mike Williams. 341 00:16:20,520 --> 00:16:23,080 Speaker 1: He expects to have an expanded role this season. I 342 00:16:23,120 --> 00:16:27,360 Speaker 1: don't think that's really a major shock to anybody. Uh 343 00:16:27,400 --> 00:16:31,240 Speaker 1: you know, Tyrelle Williams is now in Oakland, even with 344 00:16:31,520 --> 00:16:33,880 Speaker 1: Hunter Henry expected back. I mean, we saw what Mike 345 00:16:33,920 --> 00:16:38,240 Speaker 1: Williams did last year on relatively few targets, and so 346 00:16:38,240 --> 00:16:40,920 Speaker 1: I would think with more opportunities with him, you know, 347 00:16:41,000 --> 00:16:43,240 Speaker 1: being healthy and getting in the flow of the offense. 348 00:16:43,320 --> 00:16:45,440 Speaker 1: I mean, this is a guy who, uh you know, 349 00:16:45,560 --> 00:16:47,240 Speaker 1: I think he's gonna be productive. And I think right now, 350 00:16:47,360 --> 00:16:50,200 Speaker 1: let's see what is his his draft prize, fifth round? 351 00:16:51,200 --> 00:16:53,720 Speaker 1: That feels about it. He he had a had a 352 00:16:53,720 --> 00:16:56,880 Speaker 1: pretty solid season, ten touchdowns in his yardage sort of 353 00:16:56,960 --> 00:16:58,400 Speaker 1: left a lot to be desired. And I know you 354 00:16:58,440 --> 00:17:00,680 Speaker 1: had that one bananas game. Again it is the Chiefs 355 00:17:00,800 --> 00:17:02,640 Speaker 1: on Thursday night, wasn't it. Didn't he rush for a 356 00:17:02,640 --> 00:17:04,040 Speaker 1: touchdown in that game too. I think he had like 357 00:17:04,359 --> 00:17:06,000 Speaker 1: I think three because that was the game. I think 358 00:17:06,000 --> 00:17:07,840 Speaker 1: he also caught the two point conversion, right, but he 359 00:17:08,119 --> 00:17:10,680 Speaker 1: is two conversion game. He is um. He is certainly 360 00:17:10,760 --> 00:17:14,320 Speaker 1: among my breakout candidates among wide receivers, Uh right right 361 00:17:14,359 --> 00:17:16,840 Speaker 1: up there. Maybe not with Chris Godwin, but but he's 362 00:17:16,880 --> 00:17:19,360 Speaker 1: in my top three or five, no doubt about that. 363 00:17:19,680 --> 00:17:22,159 Speaker 1: In the offense, opportunity should be there. You know, Marcus 364 00:17:22,160 --> 00:17:24,719 Speaker 1: mentioned that Tyroll Williams is now in Oakland and uh, 365 00:17:24,720 --> 00:17:26,760 Speaker 1: Philip Urvers is going to be throwing the football. So 366 00:17:27,480 --> 00:17:29,440 Speaker 1: I definitely like what Williams is going to bring to 367 00:17:29,480 --> 00:17:34,640 Speaker 1: the table, and especially as a red zone threat. Oh yes, yeah, 368 00:17:34,640 --> 00:17:37,320 Speaker 1: oh yes, as a red zone threat. He's Mike, Mike, 369 00:17:37,600 --> 00:17:39,639 Speaker 1: Mike Williams is going to go off this year. I'm 370 00:17:39,760 --> 00:17:42,320 Speaker 1: very excited, which, by the way, is he's going to 371 00:17:42,359 --> 00:17:44,240 Speaker 1: break the curse of Mike Williams. Right there was like 372 00:17:44,240 --> 00:17:49,080 Speaker 1: a handful of Mike Williams. Remember the Tampa Bay Mike Williams. 373 00:17:49,160 --> 00:17:51,439 Speaker 1: I think it was his rookie year where he was 374 00:17:51,520 --> 00:17:54,800 Speaker 1: really good and then and he fell off, and then 375 00:17:54,800 --> 00:17:57,800 Speaker 1: there was there was I know, you'll bring that one up. Well, 376 00:17:58,320 --> 00:18:01,360 Speaker 1: so he was, I mean, he was amazing at college 377 00:18:01,400 --> 00:18:04,399 Speaker 1: and then he followed Maurice Clarette and tried to go 378 00:18:04,440 --> 00:18:06,359 Speaker 1: to the draft early, was forced to sit out, and 379 00:18:06,359 --> 00:18:08,520 Speaker 1: that sort of hamstrung his career. And he had one 380 00:18:08,600 --> 00:18:11,399 Speaker 1: really good year in Seattle, near the end of his career, 381 00:18:11,440 --> 00:18:14,200 Speaker 1: and it was really hurt from him again. So yeah, 382 00:18:14,240 --> 00:18:16,280 Speaker 1: so like this Mike Williams right now, he is on 383 00:18:16,280 --> 00:18:19,480 Speaker 1: on pace to be the greatest Mike Williams at least 384 00:18:19,480 --> 00:18:21,680 Speaker 1: in recent memory when it comes to to wide receivers. 385 00:18:21,720 --> 00:18:23,840 Speaker 1: So there you go. That's pretty much everything you need 386 00:18:23,880 --> 00:18:41,000 Speaker 1: to know. All right, it is June. We've gone through O, T, 387 00:18:41,160 --> 00:18:43,440 Speaker 1: A S, Mini camps all that kind of stuff. Uh, 388 00:18:43,480 --> 00:18:45,560 Speaker 1: and this is when guys start to really talk up 389 00:18:45,600 --> 00:18:49,320 Speaker 1: their teams or their teammates. Uh. And you know, this 390 00:18:49,400 --> 00:18:52,240 Speaker 1: is when we we kind of start because as Bob 391 00:18:52,280 --> 00:18:53,960 Speaker 1: Harris told us last week, this is when we start 392 00:18:54,040 --> 00:18:56,560 Speaker 1: looking down kind of looking through the straw at the 393 00:18:56,640 --> 00:19:01,040 Speaker 1: minutes minute actions that happened here. And we sometime times overreact. 394 00:19:01,640 --> 00:19:03,080 Speaker 1: Uh you know, I mean, I know it's weird to 395 00:19:03,119 --> 00:19:04,879 Speaker 1: hear that sometimes we over react to things that we 396 00:19:04,920 --> 00:19:07,000 Speaker 1: read or here in the media, and then we you know, 397 00:19:07,000 --> 00:19:09,879 Speaker 1: we draft accordingly. So now I got a handful of 398 00:19:09,920 --> 00:19:12,320 Speaker 1: stories here, and you guys can help me figure out 399 00:19:12,359 --> 00:19:13,840 Speaker 1: if we should get on the hype train or if 400 00:19:13,840 --> 00:19:15,760 Speaker 1: this is a smoke screen, and maybe we should be 401 00:19:15,760 --> 00:19:20,320 Speaker 1: a little bit wary. Uh the first one. Russell Wilson says, 402 00:19:20,440 --> 00:19:24,040 Speaker 1: DK Metcalf is looking really really special. And you know, 403 00:19:24,040 --> 00:19:26,080 Speaker 1: he said, obviously everybody knows that he can run, he 404 00:19:26,119 --> 00:19:28,480 Speaker 1: can jump, he can catch, what have you. The mental 405 00:19:28,520 --> 00:19:32,560 Speaker 1: part of the game, he's really well advanced. Uh sounds great. 406 00:19:32,800 --> 00:19:35,119 Speaker 1: We also though Russell Wilson has a habit of maybe 407 00:19:35,160 --> 00:19:39,040 Speaker 1: inflating things and getting really excited about his teammates. I 408 00:19:39,119 --> 00:19:41,440 Speaker 1: flashed back to maybe a week or two ago, there 409 00:19:41,520 --> 00:19:45,320 Speaker 1: was a you know, a training camp video of DK 410 00:19:45,440 --> 00:19:47,720 Speaker 1: Metcalf rnning a comeback where he took like thirty seven 411 00:19:47,760 --> 00:19:49,639 Speaker 1: and a half steps to stop and then turn back 412 00:19:49,680 --> 00:19:53,760 Speaker 1: the other direction. So uh yeah, people people were kind 413 00:19:53,760 --> 00:19:55,560 Speaker 1: of picking that apart, which I know we tend to 414 00:19:55,600 --> 00:19:58,960 Speaker 1: do this time of year. Um, Graham, you and I 415 00:19:59,000 --> 00:20:01,040 Speaker 1: were an Indie when we saw Metcalf just blow the 416 00:20:01,119 --> 00:20:03,920 Speaker 1: roof off of Lucas Oil Stadium during the combine. I mean, 417 00:20:05,040 --> 00:20:08,440 Speaker 1: the straight line speed is great. The agily numbers, yeah, 418 00:20:08,640 --> 00:20:11,520 Speaker 1: not so much. Are we buying this right now? He's 419 00:20:11,520 --> 00:20:14,320 Speaker 1: in the perfect offense where he can just run fast 420 00:20:14,359 --> 00:20:16,560 Speaker 1: in a straight line or take a slant or a 421 00:20:16,560 --> 00:20:20,439 Speaker 1: crosser um to the house. I mean it's I just 422 00:20:20,480 --> 00:20:23,159 Speaker 1: don't see how the Seahawks and you're one are going 423 00:20:23,200 --> 00:20:25,480 Speaker 1: to ask him to run a super diverse route tree. 424 00:20:25,680 --> 00:20:27,720 Speaker 1: Just it's not gonna happen. He's in a great offense 425 00:20:27,720 --> 00:20:29,399 Speaker 1: where he's not going to be asked to be the 426 00:20:29,480 --> 00:20:32,879 Speaker 1: number one receiver anytime soon. That'll go to Tyler Lockett, 427 00:20:32,960 --> 00:20:35,600 Speaker 1: especially if he runs more of the slot. Um that 428 00:20:35,680 --> 00:20:37,480 Speaker 1: Calf's gonna get his a couple of targets deep targets 429 00:20:37,480 --> 00:20:39,480 Speaker 1: per game, and UM, it'll be interesting to see. I 430 00:20:39,680 --> 00:20:44,000 Speaker 1: I don't know about you guys, but are you actively 431 00:20:44,040 --> 00:20:48,720 Speaker 1: targeting DK Metcalf? And I haven't not at all. I mean, 432 00:20:48,760 --> 00:20:50,680 Speaker 1: he goes in that like nine tenth round range where 433 00:20:50,680 --> 00:20:52,720 Speaker 1: it's like we just talked about Allison and NVS. I'd 434 00:20:52,800 --> 00:20:55,280 Speaker 1: rather have those guys, right, no doubt. Well, and I 435 00:20:55,320 --> 00:20:56,840 Speaker 1: just think, I mean, I don't know. I feel like 436 00:20:56,840 --> 00:20:58,920 Speaker 1: people have kind of locked in on DK Metcalf is 437 00:20:58,960 --> 00:21:01,159 Speaker 1: like he's a good these in best ball option. But 438 00:21:01,200 --> 00:21:03,600 Speaker 1: if we're talking about you know, week to week or whatever, 439 00:21:04,280 --> 00:21:07,080 Speaker 1: there's just so much unknown that the people that kind 440 00:21:07,080 --> 00:21:09,359 Speaker 1: of stayed away, and plus you're looking at an offense 441 00:21:09,359 --> 00:21:11,800 Speaker 1: that's going to be predicated on the run, especially if 442 00:21:11,840 --> 00:21:14,320 Speaker 1: you listen to what they're talking about in terms of 443 00:21:14,359 --> 00:21:18,800 Speaker 1: the ones who punch with Carson and getting Penny more involved. So, um, yeah, 444 00:21:19,160 --> 00:21:22,120 Speaker 1: I would think there's gonna be some some place where 445 00:21:22,119 --> 00:21:24,520 Speaker 1: he's gonna flash as a rookie and you're gonna look 446 00:21:24,520 --> 00:21:26,400 Speaker 1: all I gotta run to the waiver wire and pick 447 00:21:26,440 --> 00:21:28,440 Speaker 1: him up if he's available, and then three weeks straight 448 00:21:28,480 --> 00:21:30,600 Speaker 1: he's gonna give you nothing. Uh. And I think that's 449 00:21:30,640 --> 00:21:33,440 Speaker 1: gonna be what we're gonna see from Metcalf. We're gonna 450 00:21:33,480 --> 00:21:36,359 Speaker 1: see some inconsistent stat lines, a guy who will probably 451 00:21:36,359 --> 00:21:38,119 Speaker 1: be talking about a little bit more in terms of 452 00:21:38,160 --> 00:21:41,160 Speaker 1: being a breakout or potential impact player in Fantasy down 453 00:21:41,160 --> 00:21:45,600 Speaker 1: the road. Yeah so alright, So Russ, we're not all 454 00:21:45,640 --> 00:21:49,840 Speaker 1: in on your excitement yet. Randall Cobb and Deck Prescott 455 00:21:49,920 --> 00:21:53,639 Speaker 1: reportedly have formed a fast connection. Uh so, Fabs, you 456 00:21:53,680 --> 00:21:56,840 Speaker 1: are the resident Cowboys fan here and and putting your 457 00:21:57,119 --> 00:22:01,720 Speaker 1: you know, obviously blue and silver optimism aside. Eyed. Um, 458 00:22:01,800 --> 00:22:03,960 Speaker 1: does this mean you're you're starting to maybe get back 459 00:22:03,960 --> 00:22:08,679 Speaker 1: on the Randall cop bandwagon? Not? I mean, like i'd 460 00:22:08,720 --> 00:22:10,840 Speaker 1: like to say that I am. I like the addition 461 00:22:10,880 --> 00:22:12,960 Speaker 1: because the Cowboys had a need there with Cole Beasley 462 00:22:13,000 --> 00:22:17,840 Speaker 1: going to Buffalo. Um. I mean, he hasn't been durable 463 00:22:18,240 --> 00:22:20,920 Speaker 1: at all over the last couple of seasons. He went 464 00:22:20,960 --> 00:22:23,359 Speaker 1: from a player who was considered one of maybe the 465 00:22:23,400 --> 00:22:26,159 Speaker 1: top ten or twelve wide receivers in fantasy football to 466 00:22:26,320 --> 00:22:29,120 Speaker 1: quickly becoming a guy that was a late round pick. 467 00:22:29,440 --> 00:22:33,280 Speaker 1: And now I haven't seen him drafted Marcus in mocks 468 00:22:33,359 --> 00:22:36,520 Speaker 1: and otherwise I haven't seen him drafted at all. And 469 00:22:36,800 --> 00:22:39,159 Speaker 1: I love it. I mean, I hope, I hope this 470 00:22:39,200 --> 00:22:42,600 Speaker 1: comes to fruition. But you know, z caught seventy plus 471 00:22:42,640 --> 00:22:46,360 Speaker 1: passes last season. Jason Witten is gonna return, He's gonna 472 00:22:46,400 --> 00:22:49,680 Speaker 1: probably eat up about fifty passes UH this season hopefully. 473 00:22:49,680 --> 00:22:51,959 Speaker 1: As a Cowboys fan, maybe I'm being a little too optimistic. 474 00:22:52,119 --> 00:22:54,760 Speaker 1: Of course, you've got Cooper, You've got Gallop in there 475 00:22:54,760 --> 00:22:57,399 Speaker 1: as well, so there are going to be opportunities for 476 00:22:57,480 --> 00:22:59,679 Speaker 1: Dak Prescott to spread the football around. But we know 477 00:22:59,720 --> 00:23:01,320 Speaker 1: the guy as they're going to eat in that offense, 478 00:23:01,600 --> 00:23:05,119 Speaker 1: and I think if Cobb gives you sixty catches for 479 00:23:05,560 --> 00:23:08,000 Speaker 1: seven yards and five or six touchdowns, that's a nice 480 00:23:08,040 --> 00:23:10,639 Speaker 1: season for him and the Cowboys. Will take that because 481 00:23:11,119 --> 00:23:12,480 Speaker 1: they don't need him to come in and make a 482 00:23:12,520 --> 00:23:14,119 Speaker 1: huge impact. What they need him to come in and 483 00:23:14,119 --> 00:23:17,640 Speaker 1: do is actually stay on the field. Yeah. I mean, 484 00:23:17,680 --> 00:23:19,240 Speaker 1: that's kind of the biggest thing with him, And I 485 00:23:19,240 --> 00:23:21,520 Speaker 1: think anything you're sort of write anything they get from him. 486 00:23:21,560 --> 00:23:23,879 Speaker 1: I won't say he's gravy, but I don't. I just 487 00:23:23,880 --> 00:23:25,600 Speaker 1: don't know that it's enough for me to take a 488 00:23:25,680 --> 00:23:28,119 Speaker 1: chance in draft. It does seem like injuries I just 489 00:23:28,200 --> 00:23:29,760 Speaker 1: kind of derailed his career. I hope he still got 490 00:23:29,800 --> 00:23:33,480 Speaker 1: a little bit of juice for I mean, yeah, double 491 00:23:33,520 --> 00:23:36,119 Speaker 1: digit touchdowns, he was tremendous and then it's sort of 492 00:23:36,119 --> 00:23:38,959 Speaker 1: all gone downhill from there. Yeah. So all right, So 493 00:23:39,000 --> 00:23:41,439 Speaker 1: that's another one that's more probably more smoke screen than 494 00:23:41,520 --> 00:23:46,000 Speaker 1: hype train. At this point, uh down to Jacksonville Leonard 495 00:23:46,160 --> 00:23:50,960 Speaker 1: four nets, who is I have. I won't say I'm 496 00:23:51,000 --> 00:23:53,320 Speaker 1: targeting him in draft, but he just keeps falling in 497 00:23:53,400 --> 00:23:55,200 Speaker 1: my lap and a lot of month drafts and it's 498 00:23:55,240 --> 00:23:57,639 Speaker 1: always in the third round. Always in the third round 499 00:23:58,160 --> 00:23:59,960 Speaker 1: he falls in my lap. I feel like I can't 500 00:24:00,000 --> 00:24:01,640 Speaker 1: pass him up, so I do that. But he says 501 00:24:01,720 --> 00:24:04,639 Speaker 1: he expects to be a big part of the Jaguars 502 00:24:04,680 --> 00:24:08,240 Speaker 1: passing game in nineteen. Now, this is a guy who 503 00:24:08,280 --> 00:24:10,439 Speaker 1: has caught a grand total of fifty eight passes in 504 00:24:10,480 --> 00:24:13,560 Speaker 1: his first two seasons. Was not really known as a 505 00:24:13,560 --> 00:24:16,960 Speaker 1: big pass catcher at LSU UM. You know, Graham, they've 506 00:24:17,000 --> 00:24:18,800 Speaker 1: got a ton of wide receivers that they're trying to 507 00:24:18,840 --> 00:24:20,720 Speaker 1: cycle through down there. They've got Nick Foles at the 508 00:24:20,760 --> 00:24:23,439 Speaker 1: quarterback spot. Are you buying that Leonard four Nett somehow 509 00:24:23,480 --> 00:24:26,919 Speaker 1: becomes this big pass catcher there? No, but has he 510 00:24:27,040 --> 00:24:30,920 Speaker 1: has average like like respectable nearly three receptions per game 511 00:24:31,119 --> 00:24:33,680 Speaker 1: UM in his very limited starts. Obviously we've only gotten 512 00:24:33,680 --> 00:24:36,080 Speaker 1: like maybe nineteen full starts out of four net and 513 00:24:36,080 --> 00:24:38,320 Speaker 1: his but he's still average like three catches per game. 514 00:24:38,400 --> 00:24:41,160 Speaker 1: I mean, it's huge for PPR and with four nets 515 00:24:41,200 --> 00:24:44,000 Speaker 1: touchdown ceiling. If he is slightly more involved in the 516 00:24:44,040 --> 00:24:46,800 Speaker 1: past game, he's i mean, max that he's going to 517 00:24:46,880 --> 00:24:50,359 Speaker 1: give you what forty catches? Yeah, it's not bad, Yeah, 518 00:24:50,400 --> 00:24:52,080 Speaker 1: it's not bad. I mean he's been a he has 519 00:24:52,080 --> 00:24:55,920 Speaker 1: been a reliable pass catcher UM so far in his career, 520 00:24:55,960 --> 00:24:58,479 Speaker 1: which is I mean, obviously wasn't he was too too 521 00:24:58,560 --> 00:25:01,280 Speaker 1: much in that capacity? LS Well, I mean one plus 522 00:25:01,280 --> 00:25:03,040 Speaker 1: in Jacksonville, they had you know, they had t J. 523 00:25:03,119 --> 00:25:06,440 Speaker 1: Yelled in there who catched the ball um Grant to 524 00:25:06,640 --> 00:25:08,919 Speaker 1: I mean Corey Grant. We saw in a very limited sample. 525 00:25:08,920 --> 00:25:11,720 Speaker 1: They wanted to get him him more involved. The tepth 526 00:25:11,760 --> 00:25:14,000 Speaker 1: chart in Jacksonville is just it's wide open for for 527 00:25:14,160 --> 00:25:16,600 Speaker 1: not just to go right behind him. There's just nothing. 528 00:25:16,600 --> 00:25:22,120 Speaker 1: I mean there's nothing Thomas Farls Alfred Blue and yeah, 529 00:25:22,359 --> 00:25:25,040 Speaker 1: so so maybe that does happen. I kind of do 530 00:25:25,119 --> 00:25:26,840 Speaker 1: buy this one. I don't think this is necessarily a 531 00:25:26,880 --> 00:25:28,600 Speaker 1: smoke screen. I don't think he's gonna go in in 532 00:25:28,800 --> 00:25:31,320 Speaker 1: you know, average like I don't know s Kwon Barkley, 533 00:25:31,600 --> 00:25:36,640 Speaker 1: ridiculous something something observed. But I definitely think he could 534 00:25:36,640 --> 00:25:38,560 Speaker 1: be more, way more involved in the passing game than 535 00:25:38,640 --> 00:25:41,240 Speaker 1: we're initially projecting. I think I think he could. He 536 00:25:41,560 --> 00:25:43,679 Speaker 1: definitely could have a career there. All right, all right, 537 00:25:43,720 --> 00:25:45,480 Speaker 1: so we'll we'll kind of we'll put a pin in that. 538 00:25:45,520 --> 00:25:48,359 Speaker 1: We'll sort of buying that one other running back, carry 539 00:25:48,359 --> 00:25:51,280 Speaker 1: On Johnson. According to Dave Burkett, who's been covering the 540 00:25:51,320 --> 00:25:54,480 Speaker 1: Lions for a long time, he predicts that carry On 541 00:25:54,560 --> 00:25:59,600 Speaker 1: Johnson will catch at least sixty passes in nineteen No fabbs. 542 00:25:59,600 --> 00:26:02,560 Speaker 1: He called he caught thirty two. But you know he 543 00:26:02,560 --> 00:26:05,800 Speaker 1: he only played ten games, so so maybe sixty isn't 544 00:26:05,840 --> 00:26:09,920 Speaker 1: that ridiculous. Maybe I'd take fifty out of him. I mean, 545 00:26:09,920 --> 00:26:12,399 Speaker 1: if you projectedly posted as a rookie and you spread 546 00:26:12,400 --> 00:26:14,399 Speaker 1: it over a full sixteen game season, he's right at 547 00:26:14,400 --> 00:26:18,520 Speaker 1: fifty one. Um. But and I like him, and I 548 00:26:18,560 --> 00:26:21,120 Speaker 1: feel like he has that that that high rby two upside. 549 00:26:21,480 --> 00:26:24,160 Speaker 1: I would caution fantasy owners though, that they are going 550 00:26:24,200 --> 00:26:27,080 Speaker 1: to use c J Anderson. Okay, I know c J. 551 00:26:27,240 --> 00:26:29,280 Speaker 1: He's a friend of mine. They're gonna use him. He's 552 00:26:29,320 --> 00:26:33,800 Speaker 1: excited about the c J kJ connection as I as 553 00:26:33,840 --> 00:26:37,480 Speaker 1: I've called it uh to to c J. Um, He's 554 00:26:37,520 --> 00:26:40,240 Speaker 1: gonna get his work now. I'm not saying he's gonna 555 00:26:40,240 --> 00:26:42,800 Speaker 1: break into carry Ons carries as he did to Todd 556 00:26:42,840 --> 00:26:45,320 Speaker 1: Gurley at the end of last season, But remember the 557 00:26:45,320 --> 00:26:47,960 Speaker 1: success that c J had. C J still got something 558 00:26:48,040 --> 00:26:50,280 Speaker 1: left in the tank. And while carry On is going 559 00:26:50,320 --> 00:26:53,120 Speaker 1: to lead this backfield in terms of overall touches, I 560 00:26:53,200 --> 00:26:57,240 Speaker 1: don't see him being a true featured back. Allah Zeke Elliott, 561 00:26:57,280 --> 00:27:01,080 Speaker 1: allah se Kwon Barkley, uh, Dave vid Johnson, for example, 562 00:27:01,119 --> 00:27:03,080 Speaker 1: I think he's going to get enough touches to be 563 00:27:03,320 --> 00:27:06,600 Speaker 1: potentially a nice RB two. But I do think C. J. 564 00:27:06,680 --> 00:27:09,960 Speaker 1: Anderson is going to get in that mix and get 565 00:27:10,000 --> 00:27:11,359 Speaker 1: his share of the I also feel like some of 566 00:27:11,359 --> 00:27:14,640 Speaker 1: that has to do with Matt Patricia as the head coach. 567 00:27:14,680 --> 00:27:16,320 Speaker 1: I mean, he really is trying to run it. He's 568 00:27:16,320 --> 00:27:19,160 Speaker 1: trying to remake this team in the Patriots image, which 569 00:27:19,320 --> 00:27:22,720 Speaker 1: you know, good luck with that, have fun, right exactly? 570 00:27:23,080 --> 00:27:26,080 Speaker 1: But one thing we know. I mean, look, the term 571 00:27:26,119 --> 00:27:28,399 Speaker 1: Belatricks didn't come from nowhere, right, I mean, they just 572 00:27:28,480 --> 00:27:30,840 Speaker 1: kept They never had a true workhorse back, and I 573 00:27:30,880 --> 00:27:32,639 Speaker 1: have a feeling that Matt Patricia may try to keep 574 00:27:32,680 --> 00:27:35,440 Speaker 1: that going. This is a smoke screen. I mean, Theoretic 575 00:27:35,560 --> 00:27:37,800 Speaker 1: has caught fifty or more balls in three streets. It's 576 00:27:37,800 --> 00:27:40,560 Speaker 1: one year he did that in ten games. Um, the 577 00:27:40,600 --> 00:27:42,399 Speaker 1: lines are gonna keep four running backs this year. I 578 00:27:42,800 --> 00:27:46,080 Speaker 1: think they could keep Ti Johnson they their sixth round 579 00:27:46,119 --> 00:27:49,639 Speaker 1: pick over Theoretics. As I've read where he's he's kind 580 00:27:49,640 --> 00:27:51,119 Speaker 1: of a bubble guy. I've I've read where he's on 581 00:27:51,119 --> 00:27:52,880 Speaker 1: the roster bubble this year, which makes some sense because 582 00:27:52,920 --> 00:27:54,920 Speaker 1: he truly is only a passing down back. But yeah, 583 00:27:55,480 --> 00:27:57,439 Speaker 1: I mean, only nine running backs caught six year more 584 00:27:57,440 --> 00:27:58,879 Speaker 1: balls last year. If we can get to carry on 585 00:27:59,040 --> 00:28:01,399 Speaker 1: like for like forty five fifty, I think he'll be 586 00:28:01,400 --> 00:28:03,760 Speaker 1: a solid RBT. You know, it's like totally nuts about 587 00:28:03,800 --> 00:28:08,480 Speaker 1: this whole situation. We for years leaned on Matthew Stafford 588 00:28:08,560 --> 00:28:10,359 Speaker 1: is a guy that you can get late and he 589 00:28:10,400 --> 00:28:13,120 Speaker 1: can help lead your team to the playoffs in fantasy football. 590 00:28:13,800 --> 00:28:17,280 Speaker 1: I mean, he was a top nine guy in what 591 00:28:17,480 --> 00:28:20,320 Speaker 1: four or five seasons. Then last season came along and 592 00:28:20,760 --> 00:28:23,520 Speaker 1: totally fell off a cliff. And now that Patricia is 593 00:28:23,560 --> 00:28:25,800 Speaker 1: sort of, you know, out there talking about the fact 594 00:28:25,800 --> 00:28:28,280 Speaker 1: that they're gonna want to run the football. Stafford's not 595 00:28:28,280 --> 00:28:31,960 Speaker 1: being drafted anymore. Stafford not being drafted. Stafford got his 596 00:28:32,000 --> 00:28:34,920 Speaker 1: crazy fantasy stats through volume. The lines just stunk in. 597 00:28:35,000 --> 00:28:38,000 Speaker 1: Calvin Johnson, God, Calvin Johnson. Calvin Johnson was got in 598 00:28:38,040 --> 00:28:40,160 Speaker 1: the staff and Stafford and the line just through a ton. 599 00:28:40,240 --> 00:28:42,000 Speaker 1: Now they're the complete opposite. They're going to try and 600 00:28:42,080 --> 00:28:45,080 Speaker 1: run a ton. Yeah. I mean the four year stretch 601 00:28:45,120 --> 00:28:49,320 Speaker 1: from fourteen he averaged six hundred and fifty six passing attempts. 602 00:28:49,640 --> 00:28:53,640 Speaker 1: It was unreal. He had the season with seven hundred 603 00:28:53,680 --> 00:28:56,880 Speaker 1: and twenty seven passes. Is that the most ever in 604 00:28:56,880 --> 00:29:00,200 Speaker 1: a single season? If not, it's it's like and is 605 00:29:00,240 --> 00:29:02,840 Speaker 1: the NFL record. Luck was almost on pace to break that, 606 00:29:02,880 --> 00:29:04,800 Speaker 1: and then the Colts wanted I think Bledsoe is up 607 00:29:04,840 --> 00:29:06,440 Speaker 1: there too. He had a single season where he had 608 00:29:06,440 --> 00:29:08,920 Speaker 1: a huge number of past attempts. But yeah, so he 609 00:29:09,240 --> 00:29:11,680 Speaker 1: and and the thing too is like, so he's got 610 00:29:11,720 --> 00:29:15,040 Speaker 1: he's got baby Tron, and he's got Marv Jones coming back. 611 00:29:15,360 --> 00:29:18,400 Speaker 1: They drafted Hockinson, so he has some weapons in the 612 00:29:18,440 --> 00:29:21,200 Speaker 1: passing game. Unfortunately, you're not gonna see any more of 613 00:29:21,240 --> 00:29:23,720 Speaker 1: the Matthew Stafford throwing the ball fifty times games. So 614 00:29:24,280 --> 00:29:28,480 Speaker 1: UM carry on Johnson clearly um the top fantasy option 615 00:29:28,480 --> 00:29:31,160 Speaker 1: in Detroit, and Matthew Stafford goes from a guy who's 616 00:29:31,360 --> 00:29:36,400 Speaker 1: going to be guaranteed to become a fantasy uh asset 617 00:29:36,480 --> 00:29:39,400 Speaker 1: to someone who's gonna start the season on the waiver wire. 618 00:29:39,440 --> 00:29:43,000 Speaker 1: I'm just looking at Stafford's career numbers and it's wild 619 00:29:43,040 --> 00:29:45,040 Speaker 1: to me that he only has two seasons with thirty 620 00:29:45,120 --> 00:29:50,000 Speaker 1: or more touchdowns. That's crazy. Lots of yards, lots of yards. 621 00:29:50,080 --> 00:29:52,040 Speaker 1: One of the few guys that's thrown for over five thousand, 622 00:29:52,040 --> 00:29:55,280 Speaker 1: he had a forty nine sixty seven one year as well. Um, 623 00:29:55,480 --> 00:29:57,680 Speaker 1: the one big year was the where he had over 624 00:29:57,720 --> 00:30:01,480 Speaker 1: five thousand and forty one touch touchdowns. Um, and just 625 00:30:01,520 --> 00:30:03,840 Speaker 1: has never really kind of come close to that sense. 626 00:30:04,680 --> 00:30:07,040 Speaker 1: All Right, it's the last one, and I'm just gonna 627 00:30:07,040 --> 00:30:08,400 Speaker 1: go out and say that we all believe this is 628 00:30:08,440 --> 00:30:10,920 Speaker 1: a Eddie answer this one. All right, Yeah, we'll get 629 00:30:11,000 --> 00:30:15,720 Speaker 1: Eddie on this. Pat Shermer has reportedly not ruled out 630 00:30:16,320 --> 00:30:19,680 Speaker 1: Daniel Jones as a potential Week one starter. Are you 631 00:30:19,760 --> 00:30:23,800 Speaker 1: buying this, Eddie? The thing about reading this is that 632 00:30:23,880 --> 00:30:26,440 Speaker 1: I think it's more to do with how bad Eli 633 00:30:26,640 --> 00:30:28,760 Speaker 1: is as opposed to how good Daniel Jones is, because 634 00:30:28,760 --> 00:30:31,480 Speaker 1: I think no matter if Dale Jones was, you know, 635 00:30:31,560 --> 00:30:34,720 Speaker 1: the same exact type of player that like Kyler Murray is, 636 00:30:34,760 --> 00:30:37,920 Speaker 1: for example, it doesn't matter because the Manning name is 637 00:30:37,960 --> 00:30:40,800 Speaker 1: just too powerful to the Giants organization first for whatever reason. 638 00:30:41,360 --> 00:30:43,200 Speaker 1: Like I'm sure you guys have seen the videos of 639 00:30:43,200 --> 00:30:45,200 Speaker 1: Eli and training camp. He can't throw the ball to 640 00:30:45,240 --> 00:30:48,320 Speaker 1: the sidelines, So like if to me, that just speaks 641 00:30:48,360 --> 00:30:49,800 Speaker 1: more of Eli just not bend to do it, and 642 00:30:49,800 --> 00:30:51,640 Speaker 1: the coaches like, enough enough, already, gotta get this guy 643 00:30:51,680 --> 00:30:53,840 Speaker 1: out of here. That being said, I happen to like 644 00:30:53,920 --> 00:30:56,040 Speaker 1: what I've seen from Daniel Jones, and the dual threat 645 00:30:56,080 --> 00:30:58,720 Speaker 1: thing is probably cool, but I think it's just really 646 00:30:58,760 --> 00:31:00,680 Speaker 1: a crisis mode of like, oh, guy we thought was 647 00:31:00,680 --> 00:31:02,760 Speaker 1: gonna at least start half the season can't even start 648 00:31:02,760 --> 00:31:05,960 Speaker 1: a single game. I also wonder like if, I mean, 649 00:31:06,000 --> 00:31:09,160 Speaker 1: if Eli comes out and just he just no longer 650 00:31:09,200 --> 00:31:10,560 Speaker 1: has it, if he really can't get the ball to 651 00:31:10,600 --> 00:31:14,000 Speaker 1: the sideline, does does Dame Gentleman sort of you know, 652 00:31:14,200 --> 00:31:16,240 Speaker 1: does he retract a little bit? Does he say, hey, look, 653 00:31:16,280 --> 00:31:18,720 Speaker 1: maybe this isn't the guy anymore. He won't because he's 654 00:31:18,880 --> 00:31:20,520 Speaker 1: like kind of fulled himself. But I was I was 655 00:31:20,560 --> 00:31:22,600 Speaker 1: reading stuff today from like the Beat Riders and stuff, 656 00:31:22,600 --> 00:31:24,280 Speaker 1: and they were like, if if the joint and that 657 00:31:24,360 --> 00:31:26,400 Speaker 1: their scheduled, the first like six or seven games are 658 00:31:26,440 --> 00:31:28,800 Speaker 1: really tough, and if they come out and score like 659 00:31:28,840 --> 00:31:31,080 Speaker 1: three points in the home opening or something like the 660 00:31:31,080 --> 00:31:34,680 Speaker 1: first game, it's gonna be madness and like and that's 661 00:31:34,720 --> 00:31:36,120 Speaker 1: the worst case snary because you don't want to put 662 00:31:36,120 --> 00:31:37,960 Speaker 1: a guy like Daniel Jones, who was coming from a 663 00:31:37,960 --> 00:31:41,000 Speaker 1: place like duke in right away and have like have 664 00:31:41,200 --> 00:31:43,200 Speaker 1: no help from the on the veteran level, because like 665 00:31:43,200 --> 00:31:46,200 Speaker 1: you can't. You can't have Alex Tanney be out playing 666 00:31:46,200 --> 00:31:48,080 Speaker 1: ELI and you're in in May and June. It's just 667 00:31:48,160 --> 00:31:51,520 Speaker 1: it's it's awful. So it's it's a scary playing. We're 668 00:31:51,560 --> 00:31:54,520 Speaker 1: playing you guys the first season. I know, yeah, I 669 00:31:54,600 --> 00:31:56,760 Speaker 1: like that. I assume that you guys also believe this 670 00:31:56,800 --> 00:31:59,000 Speaker 1: is a smoke screen though that uh you know. I 671 00:31:59,000 --> 00:32:02,000 Speaker 1: mean unless unless he's arm absolutely falls off or something 672 00:32:02,040 --> 00:32:07,480 Speaker 1: between now and September, it's smokes. It's a smoke screen. 673 00:32:08,560 --> 00:32:12,560 Speaker 1: I mean ELI has been cooked for a while. I mean, yes, 674 00:32:13,800 --> 00:32:16,320 Speaker 1: it's times as I mean as much as like as 675 00:32:16,400 --> 00:32:19,239 Speaker 1: much as I wanted them to move on and just 676 00:32:19,440 --> 00:32:21,239 Speaker 1: still the thing is like, and he was throwing those 677 00:32:21,320 --> 00:32:23,600 Speaker 1: dump offs, Everyone's like, oh the online is bad and 678 00:32:23,640 --> 00:32:25,920 Speaker 1: stake on so good, get stake on the ball. Now, 679 00:32:25,960 --> 00:32:28,480 Speaker 1: it's like watching him throw it's like, oh no, it 680 00:32:28,560 --> 00:32:30,480 Speaker 1: wasn't because there's a reason he was still the reason 681 00:32:30,560 --> 00:32:32,400 Speaker 1: he can from the ball across the numbers. Like that's 682 00:32:32,440 --> 00:32:36,120 Speaker 1: really it. I mean, I just I wonder how much 683 00:32:36,160 --> 00:32:39,120 Speaker 1: this is gonna be like watching Peyton's last days right where, 684 00:32:39,160 --> 00:32:41,040 Speaker 1: like you know, I just remember that last that Super 685 00:32:41,080 --> 00:32:45,320 Speaker 1: Bowl run that the Broncos had, um Peyton had like one, 686 00:32:45,640 --> 00:32:47,880 Speaker 1: maybe one or two really good throws in him, and 687 00:32:47,920 --> 00:32:49,600 Speaker 1: you would see early in the game he would try 688 00:32:49,640 --> 00:32:51,680 Speaker 1: to take his shots down field because you sort of 689 00:32:51,760 --> 00:32:54,960 Speaker 1: knew mid second quarter, early third quarter it just wasn't 690 00:32:55,000 --> 00:32:56,760 Speaker 1: gonna be there anymore. And I just have a feeling 691 00:32:56,800 --> 00:32:58,800 Speaker 1: that that Eli is at that point now where maybe 692 00:32:58,800 --> 00:33:00,640 Speaker 1: you get a couple of really an I throws out 693 00:33:00,640 --> 00:33:02,880 Speaker 1: of him every week, but if you're asking him to 694 00:33:02,880 --> 00:33:05,400 Speaker 1: throw the ball thirty times, it's just not gonna be there. 695 00:33:05,440 --> 00:33:07,680 Speaker 1: There was a game I remember, I don't remember what season, 696 00:33:07,720 --> 00:33:10,480 Speaker 1: it was, maybe his last season or next to last season, 697 00:33:10,880 --> 00:33:14,000 Speaker 1: where you could start to see that Peyton was losing it. 698 00:33:14,240 --> 00:33:16,360 Speaker 1: And it was against the Bengals, and and it was 699 00:33:16,400 --> 00:33:19,120 Speaker 1: in a week sixteen because I was playing in Fantasy Championship, 700 00:33:19,680 --> 00:33:23,840 Speaker 1: uh and I started him and he just absolutely wrecked me. 701 00:33:24,200 --> 00:33:26,160 Speaker 1: He had three or four picks. I don't remember what 702 00:33:26,200 --> 00:33:27,720 Speaker 1: it was. I think it was against the Bengals, and 703 00:33:27,800 --> 00:33:30,680 Speaker 1: at that point you could see that he was starting 704 00:33:30,680 --> 00:33:33,160 Speaker 1: to come apart. And then the following season. He was 705 00:33:33,200 --> 00:33:36,160 Speaker 1: a very popular bust candidate in Fantasy Land and he, 706 00:33:36,600 --> 00:33:40,600 Speaker 1: unfortunately for him, lived up to that. Yeah, so so 707 00:33:41,040 --> 00:33:43,600 Speaker 1: hype trainers, smoke screen. Um, we'll do some more of 708 00:33:43,600 --> 00:33:45,480 Speaker 1: these before we get to the There's gonna be a 709 00:33:45,520 --> 00:33:46,760 Speaker 1: lot of them. There will be a lot of them, 710 00:33:46,960 --> 00:33:49,320 Speaker 1: especially once training camp opened, and like everybody is b 711 00:33:49,520 --> 00:33:51,160 Speaker 1: s O H L and uh. He had to talk 712 00:33:51,200 --> 00:33:52,840 Speaker 1: about how great everything is gonna be this season will 713 00:33:52,840 --> 00:33:54,120 Speaker 1: helpfull We should not, you know what we should do, 714 00:33:54,160 --> 00:33:57,920 Speaker 1: like seriously, we should like just document like every player 715 00:33:58,440 --> 00:34:01,560 Speaker 1: that on Fantasy Twitter goes nuts at some point or 716 00:34:01,600 --> 00:34:04,640 Speaker 1: another and look back and be like, boy, that one 717 00:34:04,680 --> 00:34:07,680 Speaker 1: didn't turn out very good, you know, like Kim Butler 718 00:34:07,840 --> 00:34:10,560 Speaker 1: and now like you know with Henderson in l A. 719 00:34:11,239 --> 00:34:13,759 Speaker 1: I would love to document that. And because they're you know, 720 00:34:14,040 --> 00:34:15,719 Speaker 1: doing what we do. We see this all the time 721 00:34:15,719 --> 00:34:17,920 Speaker 1: where the's certain dudes in the industry that jump on 722 00:34:17,920 --> 00:34:20,400 Speaker 1: a player and then other players, other dudes in the 723 00:34:20,440 --> 00:34:22,640 Speaker 1: industry jump on that as well, and everyone all of 724 00:34:22,680 --> 00:34:24,319 Speaker 1: a sudden is starting to talk about this player as 725 00:34:24,360 --> 00:34:27,000 Speaker 1: if like James Washington is getting into that mix as well. 726 00:34:27,320 --> 00:34:28,960 Speaker 1: We should document that and be like, yeah, you remember 727 00:34:29,000 --> 00:34:32,279 Speaker 1: how the hype with Darrell Henderson last preseas? Oh yeah, 728 00:34:32,280 --> 00:34:34,279 Speaker 1: that's right. Yeah, that's before Toddy Gurley rushed for eighteen 729 00:34:34,320 --> 00:34:36,440 Speaker 1: hundred yards. I just remember the few years ago the 730 00:34:36,680 --> 00:34:43,280 Speaker 1: uh was it the Zach Sudfeld, Hey Gronks hurt Maneld. 731 00:34:43,360 --> 00:34:49,680 Speaker 1: That's why everyone's like, oh Castle, yea, Gronkowski wasn't good 732 00:34:49,760 --> 00:34:52,440 Speaker 1: last season. I mean it was just like, hey, gronkz Hurd, 733 00:34:52,480 --> 00:34:54,680 Speaker 1: He's not gonna play the first couple of weeks like this, 734 00:34:54,680 --> 00:35:00,880 Speaker 1: this could be his time out. Awful. Yeah, Hard Knocks 735 00:35:00,960 --> 00:35:05,000 Speaker 1: has announced its team for the nineteen season. It is 736 00:35:05,160 --> 00:35:09,040 Speaker 1: the Oakland Raiders. Uh. Look, I don't know how you 737 00:35:09,040 --> 00:35:10,520 Speaker 1: guys felt about that. I just kind of felt like 738 00:35:10,520 --> 00:35:13,120 Speaker 1: this was sort of inevitable, right, I mean it was. 739 00:35:13,280 --> 00:35:15,200 Speaker 1: But do you think they should have waited until their 740 00:35:15,239 --> 00:35:17,640 Speaker 1: first year in Vegas because now they can't go back 741 00:35:17,640 --> 00:35:19,760 Speaker 1: to him? Yeah, except I wonder if the league probably 742 00:35:19,760 --> 00:35:22,319 Speaker 1: wouldn't have allowed because you know, there are stipulations where 743 00:35:22,360 --> 00:35:24,400 Speaker 1: teams are allowed to say they have a team in 744 00:35:24,520 --> 00:35:28,920 Speaker 1: Las Vegas. Marcus. I feel like I feel like the 745 00:35:28,960 --> 00:35:31,040 Speaker 1: first time you're there, I'm sure the league would be like, Okay, 746 00:35:31,120 --> 00:35:33,640 Speaker 1: let's let you get settled first before you can do 747 00:35:33,680 --> 00:35:36,879 Speaker 1: a hard knocks, but you can't show a casino. Yeah, 748 00:35:36,920 --> 00:35:40,400 Speaker 1: good luck, good luck. Yeah, this was inevitable and I 749 00:35:40,400 --> 00:35:43,000 Speaker 1: cannot wait for the circus. I can't wait. I mean 750 00:35:43,080 --> 00:35:45,440 Speaker 1: John Gruden is gonna be well, think about it. Yeah, yeah, Gordon, 751 00:35:45,520 --> 00:35:49,600 Speaker 1: you've got You've got Marshawn Lynchell making appearance at some points. 752 00:35:51,239 --> 00:35:54,800 Speaker 1: Is perfect. Is on the team. Richie Incognito is there? Yeah, 753 00:35:54,840 --> 00:35:58,000 Speaker 1: I mean it should be. It should be great reality teleingent, 754 00:35:58,160 --> 00:35:59,840 Speaker 1: Like these are the guys, I mean, these are the 755 00:36:00,040 --> 00:36:02,000 Speaker 1: are the obvious stars of the show, right, Like I 756 00:36:02,000 --> 00:36:03,879 Speaker 1: feel like there's gotta be somebody else that we're not 757 00:36:04,040 --> 00:36:08,399 Speaker 1: thinking about that's gonna hunter get him in there. This 758 00:36:08,440 --> 00:36:11,560 Speaker 1: guy is twenty one years old or thereabouts, and he 759 00:36:11,719 --> 00:36:15,560 Speaker 1: looks like he's, you know, forty five year old dad 760 00:36:15,600 --> 00:36:18,720 Speaker 1: with three kids. Since he was at Clemson for thirteen years. 761 00:36:18,880 --> 00:36:21,280 Speaker 1: Look at his picture. If you guys do a Google 762 00:36:21,280 --> 00:36:24,279 Speaker 1: search for for Renfro and his his team picture, it's 763 00:36:24,360 --> 00:36:29,320 Speaker 1: it's it's not the padres. It's something there are in 764 00:36:29,360 --> 00:36:31,840 Speaker 1: the world. It's something, it's something to see, it's something 765 00:36:31,840 --> 00:36:34,880 Speaker 1: to see the picture from I'm guessing it's from the 766 00:36:35,400 --> 00:36:39,239 Speaker 1: rookie event at the knee. It's the widow's peak that 767 00:36:39,280 --> 00:36:42,879 Speaker 1: he's yes in that photos helping. Like when you see him, 768 00:36:43,360 --> 00:36:47,719 Speaker 1: you don't think slot receiver Oakland Raiders. Yeah, you think 769 00:36:47,800 --> 00:36:51,520 Speaker 1: he's selling car insurance in Connecticut. So yeah, so he 770 00:36:51,560 --> 00:36:53,240 Speaker 1: maybe one. I'm just trying to I'm trying to scroll 771 00:36:53,280 --> 00:36:55,080 Speaker 1: through this roster and try to figure out the guys 772 00:36:55,120 --> 00:36:58,120 Speaker 1: who may the kind of you know being, because there's 773 00:36:58,120 --> 00:37:00,319 Speaker 1: always the one or two guys that you may have 774 00:37:00,400 --> 00:37:02,560 Speaker 1: never heard much about or whatever that ends up just 775 00:37:02,600 --> 00:37:05,440 Speaker 1: kind of being really goofy and funny. Uh. It kind 776 00:37:05,440 --> 00:37:08,040 Speaker 1: of shows up the other the other question I had 777 00:37:08,040 --> 00:37:12,560 Speaker 1: about this. Every year there's somebody offensively that gets an 778 00:37:12,600 --> 00:37:15,520 Speaker 1: irrational bump fantasy wise, right, like he'll make a couple 779 00:37:15,520 --> 00:37:18,399 Speaker 1: of plays in practice, maybe he has a decent preseason game. 780 00:37:18,480 --> 00:37:21,600 Speaker 1: We we follow his story on hard Knocks, and suddenly 781 00:37:21,600 --> 00:37:24,320 Speaker 1: like everybody's trying to draft this guy. It'll be Josh Jacobs, 782 00:37:24,400 --> 00:37:29,280 Speaker 1: Darren Waller, He'll be Darren Waller. I was going Tyrolle Williams, 783 00:37:29,400 --> 00:37:32,760 Speaker 1: but we got all three different. I mean, Josh Jacobs, 784 00:37:32,760 --> 00:37:35,400 Speaker 1: everybody is gonna be I mean, if he looks good 785 00:37:35,480 --> 00:37:38,160 Speaker 1: in the preseason, and he's got an interesting story and 786 00:37:38,200 --> 00:37:40,680 Speaker 1: about he'll bounce up like round two or three or something. 787 00:37:40,719 --> 00:37:43,960 Speaker 1: You know, if he's well right now, I mean four, five, 788 00:37:44,200 --> 00:37:48,560 Speaker 1: I mean five, he'll probably be gone. Jacobs, he's moving up, man, 789 00:37:48,960 --> 00:37:51,080 Speaker 1: he's moving up. I think Darren Waller will probably get 790 00:37:51,120 --> 00:37:52,840 Speaker 1: some sleeper appeals. Some people will see that he's like 791 00:37:52,880 --> 00:37:54,919 Speaker 1: six six and can actually move, but he's never played 792 00:37:56,480 --> 00:37:59,200 Speaker 1: carrier and Luke Wilson that's one heck of a trio. 793 00:37:59,400 --> 00:38:01,160 Speaker 1: I you know what I have to I have to 794 00:38:01,200 --> 00:38:03,400 Speaker 1: bow out on Raiders tight ends. There were years that 795 00:38:03,480 --> 00:38:05,520 Speaker 1: I I just I would always try to predict a 796 00:38:05,600 --> 00:38:08,040 Speaker 1: Raider's tight end and it would just never work out 797 00:38:08,120 --> 00:38:12,040 Speaker 1: for me. And you're coming off of season where I 798 00:38:12,080 --> 00:38:16,040 Speaker 1: remember O J. Santiago remember him? Yeah, I believe he 799 00:38:16,080 --> 00:38:18,600 Speaker 1: was an Ohio State product. He came in and he 800 00:38:18,719 --> 00:38:22,520 Speaker 1: had a little bit of fantasy value during during his career. 801 00:38:22,920 --> 00:38:26,399 Speaker 1: But if we look back, I mean, obviously the best 802 00:38:26,520 --> 00:38:28,440 Speaker 1: Raiders tight end of all time. You know Todd Christensen, 803 00:38:28,800 --> 00:38:32,279 Speaker 1: See he played a long time ago. You weren't even 804 00:38:32,320 --> 00:38:36,879 Speaker 1: born long since, Christian you know, the team, the team 805 00:38:36,920 --> 00:38:40,319 Speaker 1: that has had the longest drought without like having a 806 00:38:40,320 --> 00:38:43,720 Speaker 1: fantasy relevant tight end. The Cardinals, right, Cardinals and the Jets. 807 00:38:44,320 --> 00:38:47,960 Speaker 1: It was the last time the Jets had like Herndon now. 808 00:38:48,080 --> 00:38:50,760 Speaker 1: But honestly, like you're you're looking back to like Johnny Mitchell, 809 00:38:51,360 --> 00:38:53,560 Speaker 1: I mean a long time ago, right, I mean they 810 00:38:53,600 --> 00:38:56,200 Speaker 1: had Jayson Marrow though everyone thought was going to be 811 00:38:56,239 --> 00:38:59,000 Speaker 1: something and he'd end up being anything. So I'm going 812 00:38:59,000 --> 00:39:02,799 Speaker 1: back through Raiders titles Clive Walford and Michael Rivera. And 813 00:39:02,840 --> 00:39:05,680 Speaker 1: Michael Rivera remember was like a potential sleeper, didn't. I 814 00:39:05,680 --> 00:39:07,480 Speaker 1: mean he's like, these are like all these guys that 815 00:39:07,560 --> 00:39:09,440 Speaker 1: like I tried to cape up for and they just 816 00:39:09,520 --> 00:39:14,839 Speaker 1: Brandon Meyers. Like the Raiders have Eric Swope right now. 817 00:39:13,719 --> 00:39:18,239 Speaker 1: They Brandon Meyers. Yeah, that that's another good one who 818 00:39:18,320 --> 00:39:21,879 Speaker 1: was a former basketball player, which you know automatically means 819 00:39:21,880 --> 00:39:23,359 Speaker 1: you're a Hall of Famer at this point. You know, 820 00:39:24,520 --> 00:39:30,239 Speaker 1: Antonio Gates, uh, Tony Gonzalez. Eric Swope just spits right in, 821 00:39:30,360 --> 00:39:32,799 Speaker 1: just fits right in, fits right in. So that leads 822 00:39:32,840 --> 00:39:35,160 Speaker 1: us to our social poll as we get ready to 823 00:39:35,400 --> 00:39:39,240 Speaker 1: wrap things up here, um the best Hard Knocks season, 824 00:39:39,280 --> 00:39:42,920 Speaker 1: and I picked out four based on a list generated 825 00:39:43,000 --> 00:39:45,520 Speaker 1: by a t n S. Dan hands Is, who is 826 00:39:45,640 --> 00:39:49,239 Speaker 1: in the building maybe the biggest Hard Knocks expert every year. Uh, 827 00:39:49,320 --> 00:39:52,000 Speaker 1: he does weekly recaps of the show. And if there's 828 00:39:52,000 --> 00:39:56,000 Speaker 1: anybody in in our company that knows more about the 829 00:39:56,040 --> 00:39:59,120 Speaker 1: Hard Knocks series, I dare you to find him. So 830 00:39:59,239 --> 00:40:00,960 Speaker 1: I took Dan Hands us his list. I took the 831 00:40:01,040 --> 00:40:03,839 Speaker 1: top four on his list, and as always, you guys 832 00:40:03,840 --> 00:40:06,520 Speaker 1: are welcome to give us some writing votes if you want. 833 00:40:06,600 --> 00:40:11,560 Speaker 1: But the Jets in and uh, you know I had 834 00:40:11,600 --> 00:40:13,839 Speaker 1: to put Masters there because hands this is is a noted 835 00:40:13,920 --> 00:40:16,640 Speaker 1: Jets fan. But you know this also gave us the 836 00:40:16,680 --> 00:40:19,319 Speaker 1: Rex Ryan Let's go have a g D snack, which 837 00:40:19,480 --> 00:40:21,120 Speaker 1: maybe is still one of the greatest lines in the 838 00:40:21,200 --> 00:40:24,880 Speaker 1: history of the show. Uh Brown's last season, you know, 839 00:40:24,960 --> 00:40:27,520 Speaker 1: so we got the Hugh Jackson. You know, we had 840 00:40:27,640 --> 00:40:30,960 Speaker 1: the Baker Mayfield coming in UM, which was kind of 841 00:40:30,960 --> 00:40:34,360 Speaker 1: an interesting one. The Texans in twenty fifteen, which you 842 00:40:34,360 --> 00:40:39,720 Speaker 1: know I remember for Vince Wilfork in his overalls and 843 00:40:39,880 --> 00:40:44,000 Speaker 1: Brian Cushing just just puking his guts out on the field. 844 00:40:44,000 --> 00:40:49,320 Speaker 1: Brian Cushing just being complete complete meet him. Yeah, I 845 00:40:49,320 --> 00:40:51,600 Speaker 1: mean I was gonna say animal, I mean he's practice 846 00:40:51,840 --> 00:40:54,200 Speaker 1: and we got to see j J watch just absurd 847 00:40:54,280 --> 00:40:57,800 Speaker 1: work his workouts. Yeah, him like him with the jugs machine, 848 00:40:57,920 --> 00:41:00,840 Speaker 1: just one handing a jugs machine from like you know, 849 00:41:01,239 --> 00:41:04,960 Speaker 1: five feet away or whatever. It was just ridiculous. Fingers um. 850 00:41:05,080 --> 00:41:08,200 Speaker 1: And then number four the Bucks in seventeen, which you 851 00:41:08,200 --> 00:41:11,080 Speaker 1: want to talk about hard knocks hype, the Jameis Winston 852 00:41:11,520 --> 00:41:14,880 Speaker 1: hard knocks hype a fantasy wise from that seventeen show 853 00:41:15,160 --> 00:41:17,200 Speaker 1: was just off the chart. Like I know, I I know, 854 00:41:17,239 --> 00:41:20,239 Speaker 1: I bought into Jamis Winston that year and uh, that 855 00:41:20,320 --> 00:41:22,880 Speaker 1: didn't that. But I think the Bucks team, um, that 856 00:41:22,960 --> 00:41:25,160 Speaker 1: two thousand seventeen, the team, they just had a bunch 857 00:41:25,200 --> 00:41:27,960 Speaker 1: of great personalities. I thought that was a super entertaining 858 00:41:28,280 --> 00:41:30,879 Speaker 1: hard knocks. Speaking of social media, by the way, did 859 00:41:30,880 --> 00:41:34,560 Speaker 1: you guys follow j uh No, and I won't be no, 860 00:41:34,640 --> 00:41:37,960 Speaker 1: I can't, can't. I like to see train wreck, so 861 00:41:38,000 --> 00:41:40,120 Speaker 1: I had to do it. So I usually tweeted out 862 00:41:40,719 --> 00:41:43,200 Speaker 1: like three three things. So far he's almost got seven 863 00:41:43,239 --> 00:41:45,759 Speaker 1: hundred thousand followers, I'm sure. And here's the accounts that 864 00:41:45,800 --> 00:41:49,200 Speaker 1: he followed. He there's only eight. Yes, I can't. I 865 00:41:49,239 --> 00:41:52,200 Speaker 1: can't wait for that word, so so can you guys, 866 00:41:52,239 --> 00:41:54,280 Speaker 1: you want to take a guess. So he's he's following 867 00:41:54,360 --> 00:41:56,360 Speaker 1: eight accounts so far. Like a couple of them you 868 00:41:56,400 --> 00:41:59,000 Speaker 1: won't get, but some of them you might. So take 869 00:41:59,000 --> 00:42:07,080 Speaker 1: a guess. Uh, let's see, like Chris Jenner's gotta be one, right, No, Um, 870 00:42:07,239 --> 00:42:11,759 Speaker 1: let's say like, let's let's say USC football, yes, okay, Um, 871 00:42:11,880 --> 00:42:16,000 Speaker 1: the Bills, yes, okay, Um, the Bills are part of 872 00:42:16,040 --> 00:42:20,759 Speaker 1: the NFL. That's another one. Okay. What is his favorite pastime? 873 00:42:20,960 --> 00:42:24,120 Speaker 1: So he's like the PGA or something. Yes, okay, Now, 874 00:42:24,160 --> 00:42:27,680 Speaker 1: so one of them you, I mean, I guess I'm 875 00:42:27,719 --> 00:42:29,880 Speaker 1: not surprised there's an account for this, but there is. 876 00:42:30,120 --> 00:42:32,799 Speaker 1: And then the other three. Uh, maybe one of them 877 00:42:32,840 --> 00:42:36,200 Speaker 1: you would get. But uh, he's also very well known 878 00:42:36,280 --> 00:42:41,640 Speaker 1: for playing at USC and winning the trophy. Yes okay uh. 879 00:42:41,680 --> 00:42:48,320 Speaker 1: And then Justin Simpson that's his son, Yes, Malcolm Laverne, 880 00:42:48,520 --> 00:42:51,440 Speaker 1: I'm it's at Sin City Attorney. Maybe that's the guy 881 00:42:51,440 --> 00:42:57,000 Speaker 1: who got him out playing. And then Tim Graham, who's uh, 882 00:42:58,719 --> 00:43:01,960 Speaker 1: that's a he's that's a interesting. That's also interesting that 883 00:43:02,000 --> 00:43:05,640 Speaker 1: he follows the h Look this is so this is 884 00:43:05,640 --> 00:43:08,200 Speaker 1: because I'm so I don't know what it is. About 885 00:43:08,200 --> 00:43:11,040 Speaker 1: that whole thing. But like anytime there's a new documentary 886 00:43:11,040 --> 00:43:12,920 Speaker 1: about him, like I have to watch it every like 887 00:43:13,440 --> 00:43:14,799 Speaker 1: I have to watch it. I don't know why. I'm 888 00:43:14,840 --> 00:43:18,279 Speaker 1: just just the whole situation. So it's just ridiculous, as 889 00:43:19,480 --> 00:43:23,480 Speaker 1: it always has kind of rankled me that, like, oh J, 890 00:43:24,800 --> 00:43:28,279 Speaker 1: look he was he was found libel of murder. Right, 891 00:43:28,680 --> 00:43:31,960 Speaker 1: he gets to keep his heisman trophy. Reggie Bush's parents 892 00:43:31,960 --> 00:43:36,279 Speaker 1: got a house. He's persona non grana, right, like he 893 00:43:36,400 --> 00:43:40,040 Speaker 1: had to take everything down, right, like like no one 894 00:43:40,280 --> 00:43:42,759 Speaker 1: died with Reggie Bush, but he didn't get to keep 895 00:43:42,800 --> 00:43:46,480 Speaker 1: his heisman trophy. That that is always bothered he O. 896 00:43:46,680 --> 00:43:49,120 Speaker 1: J has liked one tweet and it was basically about 897 00:43:49,200 --> 00:43:52,319 Speaker 1: how quickly he's gotten a fifty Twitter followers. I think 898 00:43:52,320 --> 00:43:55,200 Speaker 1: this is like an ego thing more than anything else. Yeah, 899 00:43:55,560 --> 00:43:58,239 Speaker 1: it's gotta be, and it's gotta be. And I've I've 900 00:43:58,280 --> 00:44:00,160 Speaker 1: seen some people out there that say, don't like what 901 00:44:00,360 --> 00:44:02,800 Speaker 1: J Simpson. I gotta see. I mean, you gotta see. 902 00:44:03,440 --> 00:44:06,440 Speaker 1: I don't have any moral moral against well, I mean, 903 00:44:06,520 --> 00:44:08,279 Speaker 1: like we always worse. I'm not going to tell people 904 00:44:08,360 --> 00:44:11,040 Speaker 1: not to people who they want to follow, but I 905 00:44:11,040 --> 00:44:14,120 Speaker 1: will not be any I will not have followed Bill 906 00:44:14,160 --> 00:44:17,120 Speaker 1: Cosby tweeted something off for Father's Day. That that can't be. 907 00:44:17,719 --> 00:44:25,120 Speaker 1: That can't be him, can't be like, yeah, look at 908 00:44:25,120 --> 00:44:27,640 Speaker 1: his account, he's so Like I was just thinking, you 909 00:44:27,680 --> 00:44:30,000 Speaker 1: know of a couple of guys who sort of, you know, 910 00:44:30,440 --> 00:44:32,480 Speaker 1: falling from grace. I mean, I guess that's that's sort 911 00:44:32,520 --> 00:44:38,120 Speaker 1: of putting it lightly. I don't Bill Cosby. Hey, hey, hey, 912 00:44:38,160 --> 00:44:40,239 Speaker 1: it's America's dad. I know it's late, but to all 913 00:44:40,280 --> 00:44:42,319 Speaker 1: of the dad's, it's an honor to be called the father. 914 00:44:42,400 --> 00:44:46,200 Speaker 1: So let's make tonight today a renewed oath to fulfilling 915 00:44:46,200 --> 00:44:49,720 Speaker 1: our purpose, strengthening our families and communities. A wonderful message 916 00:44:50,239 --> 00:44:53,560 Speaker 1: from a man that's done a whole lot of bad stuff. Man, 917 00:44:54,080 --> 00:44:55,920 Speaker 1: Like I said, I didn't even know he was on Twitter. 918 00:44:56,080 --> 00:44:58,360 Speaker 1: I didn't either until I saw this. Oh man, he 919 00:44:58,400 --> 00:45:02,520 Speaker 1: got ratio so I'm sure did three point six replies. 920 00:45:02,520 --> 00:45:06,480 Speaker 1: He's got three and a half million followers that Now 921 00:45:06,520 --> 00:45:09,759 Speaker 1: I didn't follow him, I don't, But but like the thing, 922 00:45:09,760 --> 00:45:13,120 Speaker 1: I think, you know what, I follow jose Canseco, which 923 00:45:13,120 --> 00:45:17,160 Speaker 1: is a train wreck enough on Twitter, so you know 924 00:45:17,200 --> 00:45:19,359 Speaker 1: what that could be? That could be like next week 925 00:45:19,360 --> 00:45:21,520 Speaker 1: we'll talk about that, Like maybe that could be a poll, 926 00:45:21,880 --> 00:45:25,800 Speaker 1: Like what celebrity like who's on Twitter just should not be? 927 00:45:26,440 --> 00:45:28,680 Speaker 1: You know, all I want to know is I want 928 00:45:28,880 --> 00:45:32,080 Speaker 1: a you know now that now that OJ is on Twitter, 929 00:45:32,080 --> 00:45:34,160 Speaker 1: if we get some sort of three way Twitter convo 930 00:45:34,239 --> 00:45:37,560 Speaker 1: between him, jose Can Saco, and like Magic Johnson, that 931 00:45:37,719 --> 00:45:39,520 Speaker 1: be the best, Oh man, that would be the best. 932 00:45:39,719 --> 00:45:42,520 Speaker 1: J has so much like intrigue though towards like the 933 00:45:42,640 --> 00:45:46,000 Speaker 1: like the public just seems to flock to him. It's 934 00:45:46,040 --> 00:45:48,200 Speaker 1: like this weird thing where people are upset, like his 935 00:45:48,320 --> 00:45:50,080 Speaker 1: story is, are we one of the biggest stories in 936 00:45:50,080 --> 00:45:53,439 Speaker 1: like American like call it was like that that took 937 00:45:53,480 --> 00:45:55,239 Speaker 1: over Remember the NBA Finals, so I think it was 938 00:45:55,320 --> 00:46:02,400 Speaker 1: rockets next right, which was relegated to these small exactly 939 00:46:02,440 --> 00:46:04,800 Speaker 1: Like that. One of the things, and there's a million 940 00:46:04,800 --> 00:46:07,080 Speaker 1: things that fascinated me about this whole situation was like 941 00:46:07,360 --> 00:46:11,239 Speaker 1: the people were cheering him. Yeah, the man, the man, 942 00:46:11,800 --> 00:46:17,120 Speaker 1: but at that murdered people at that time, people didn't 943 00:46:17,400 --> 00:46:19,279 Speaker 1: just people. O. J was so beloved that no one 944 00:46:19,320 --> 00:46:21,359 Speaker 1: believed he could have done it. I remember the day 945 00:46:21,400 --> 00:46:23,760 Speaker 1: the story broke and this guy who was sort of annoying. 946 00:46:23,800 --> 00:46:25,480 Speaker 1: And my I was a senior in high school. My 947 00:46:25,520 --> 00:46:27,600 Speaker 1: math class comes up to me. I hadn't even heard 948 00:46:27,600 --> 00:46:29,560 Speaker 1: the story. He comes with me, he says, so do 949 00:46:29,600 --> 00:46:31,200 Speaker 1: you think o J did it? I was like, did what? 950 00:46:31,400 --> 00:46:33,360 Speaker 1: And he said, murdered his wife. And my response was 951 00:46:33,520 --> 00:46:35,680 Speaker 1: that's the dumbest thing I've ever heard. Go away, you know, 952 00:46:35,800 --> 00:46:39,200 Speaker 1: And because I thought O J was so beloved at 953 00:46:39,239 --> 00:46:41,680 Speaker 1: that time, and it was just it was unfathomable that 954 00:46:41,719 --> 00:46:45,280 Speaker 1: he could do something so so funny, small, weird, little 955 00:46:45,320 --> 00:46:48,560 Speaker 1: thing about And I apologize for getting this completely off 956 00:46:48,560 --> 00:46:52,759 Speaker 1: the crass, I mean, very small, but like, um, when 957 00:46:52,800 --> 00:46:56,680 Speaker 1: Bundy and Goldman were found, it was June. I was 958 00:46:56,840 --> 00:47:03,080 Speaker 1: born the day after. Really wow, man, And I've actually 959 00:47:03,360 --> 00:47:07,440 Speaker 1: gone to the spot, to that area. I've these and 960 00:47:07,520 --> 00:47:10,160 Speaker 1: like every time I go through Brentwood, like and Brentwood 961 00:47:10,160 --> 00:47:13,279 Speaker 1: Country Club is right there. I always They knocked down 962 00:47:13,360 --> 00:47:17,040 Speaker 1: his house, yes, but but the murder is still around. 963 00:47:17,239 --> 00:47:19,440 Speaker 1: Well know the house where the murders took place has 964 00:47:19,480 --> 00:47:23,320 Speaker 1: been torn down right exactly? Um, well it was partially 965 00:47:23,360 --> 00:47:26,719 Speaker 1: because it it became kind of a weird, ghoulish tourists 966 00:47:26,840 --> 00:47:28,920 Speaker 1: stops would drive by it all and the people who 967 00:47:28,920 --> 00:47:32,279 Speaker 1: but the house didn't want that right, right? But I 968 00:47:32,280 --> 00:47:35,319 Speaker 1: mean you can go by like where it happened. I mean, 969 00:47:35,320 --> 00:47:37,840 Speaker 1: it just doesn't look anything like that. And then and 970 00:47:37,880 --> 00:47:41,640 Speaker 1: then the building I think where we're Nicole lived also, 971 00:47:41,920 --> 00:47:44,120 Speaker 1: but what about his house still? His house gone to? 972 00:47:44,719 --> 00:47:47,279 Speaker 1: The house is gone? House is gone? How is gone? 973 00:47:47,360 --> 00:47:50,319 Speaker 1: Right there? My parents and they visited again. People who 974 00:47:50,360 --> 00:47:52,439 Speaker 1: are obsessed with the story made me drive to both 975 00:47:53,080 --> 00:47:54,239 Speaker 1: and I was like, I don't think we're gonna see 976 00:47:54,239 --> 00:47:56,480 Speaker 1: anything because think both things are actually gone. Yeah yeah, 977 00:47:57,000 --> 00:47:59,239 Speaker 1: but I mean like obviously you know there's something else 978 00:47:59,280 --> 00:48:02,439 Speaker 1: there now. So but but that's that's where it happens. 979 00:48:02,440 --> 00:48:04,279 Speaker 1: I mean, how Kato Kaylin is still kicking around, dude. 980 00:48:04,320 --> 00:48:07,120 Speaker 1: I was at a party with Kayle believe it or not. 981 00:48:07,440 --> 00:48:10,239 Speaker 1: I was at Jerry Cantrell's birthday party earlier in the year, 982 00:48:10,640 --> 00:48:14,000 Speaker 1: and freaking Kato Kalen showed up and I was I 983 00:48:14,520 --> 00:48:18,240 Speaker 1: gave an elbow to to my girlfriend likes that Kato Kalen. 984 00:48:19,160 --> 00:48:21,680 Speaker 1: It's freaking Kato Kalin was there. I don't know how 985 00:48:21,719 --> 00:48:24,399 Speaker 1: we got on this track. How do we we could 986 00:48:24,440 --> 00:48:28,160 Speaker 1: blame me last week's pole results? I right, I went 987 00:48:28,160 --> 00:48:30,359 Speaker 1: on the social media thing, and then I brought up 988 00:48:30,840 --> 00:48:33,680 Speaker 1: the biggest sports curse we We asked it was either 989 00:48:33,719 --> 00:48:36,440 Speaker 1: the Drake curse, s like coverage drinks Madden covert to 990 00:48:36,600 --> 00:48:39,680 Speaker 1: that little be the basement. First I voted for Madden's 991 00:48:40,800 --> 00:48:45,920 Speaker 1: is the Drake cur percent Drake Urse seven percent Madden 992 00:48:45,960 --> 00:48:51,040 Speaker 1: covers nine team team just I mean we put it out. 993 00:48:51,080 --> 00:48:53,359 Speaker 1: The series hadn't ended when we first put the pole out. 994 00:48:53,440 --> 00:48:56,439 Speaker 1: And also, I mean, Drake, let's just face it, Drake's 995 00:48:56,440 --> 00:48:59,400 Speaker 1: a joke. I mean, he's always funny. He's always like 996 00:48:59,520 --> 00:49:02,680 Speaker 1: supported like Kentucky, every Kentucky, that's what makes you great. 997 00:49:02,760 --> 00:49:05,560 Speaker 1: He he likes every team. Where's jerseys from every team 998 00:49:05,600 --> 00:49:08,799 Speaker 1: and every good. He acted like someone put a video. 999 00:49:08,840 --> 00:49:10,839 Speaker 1: It's so funny done put a video on Twitter of 1000 00:49:10,840 --> 00:49:12,960 Speaker 1: of they put him in like NBA two K and 1001 00:49:13,000 --> 00:49:14,839 Speaker 1: like what was going through Drake's mind in game six? 1002 00:49:14,880 --> 00:49:16,640 Speaker 1: Name was him like crossing up steph Curry and like 1003 00:49:16,680 --> 00:49:19,120 Speaker 1: dunking on like plans. It's just like a funny, like 1004 00:49:19,160 --> 00:49:20,919 Speaker 1: he literally thought he was on the court. I find 1005 00:49:20,920 --> 00:49:23,319 Speaker 1: that absolutely, Histerica. No, No, the mad and Curse was 1006 00:49:23,360 --> 00:49:26,800 Speaker 1: the right pick there. The Madden curse had some legs 1007 00:49:26,840 --> 00:49:29,320 Speaker 1: it was recencly biased. So so again that's exactly what 1008 00:49:29,360 --> 00:49:31,000 Speaker 1: it was. So the best Hard Knocks season. You can 1009 00:49:31,080 --> 00:49:36,960 Speaker 1: vote Jets, Browneen, Texans, Bucks seen right in any votes 1010 00:49:37,000 --> 00:49:39,279 Speaker 1: that you have to the NFL podcast handle or to 1011 00:49:39,520 --> 00:49:41,680 Speaker 1: us individually. So there you go. All right, that's it, 1012 00:49:42,400 --> 00:49:44,480 Speaker 1: we are done. It's always appreciate your listening, you know 1013 00:49:44,520 --> 00:49:46,640 Speaker 1: the drill. Tell two friends to tell two friends rate review. 1014 00:49:46,680 --> 00:49:49,640 Speaker 1: And remember if someone says your secret safe with him, 1015 00:49:49,680 --> 00:50:02,400 Speaker 1: it's probably because they weren't listening. We'll see you next week. WoT, 1016 00:50:05,080 --> 00:50:18,279 Speaker 1: I'll don't go down. I'll don't go down a