1 00:00:05,600 --> 00:00:12,360 Speaker 1: This is Straight Fire with Jason McIntyre. Hello and welcome, 2 00:00:12,440 --> 00:00:17,919 Speaker 1: ladies and gentlemen. Straight Fire for Friday, February nineteenth, a 3 00:00:18,280 --> 00:00:21,520 Speaker 1: massive trade in the NFL. We have to start there. Obviously, 4 00:00:21,560 --> 00:00:24,360 Speaker 1: we'll get to Lakers nets in a minute, but I 5 00:00:24,400 --> 00:00:27,320 Speaker 1: thought we would just start out talking about the implications 6 00:00:27,360 --> 00:00:31,120 Speaker 1: of yet another franchise quarterback getting dealt in the NFL. 7 00:00:31,200 --> 00:00:34,600 Speaker 1: And yes, Carson Wentz is a franchise quarterback, despite how 8 00:00:34,640 --> 00:00:36,760 Speaker 1: awful he was last year for the Eagles. I mean 9 00:00:36,800 --> 00:00:39,680 Speaker 1: he was dreadful, folks. Um, you know, it's funny that 10 00:00:39,760 --> 00:00:42,640 Speaker 1: you can sign a hundred and twenty eight million dollar 11 00:00:42,720 --> 00:00:47,000 Speaker 1: deal in t and then come you got benched for 12 00:00:47,040 --> 00:00:50,400 Speaker 1: a rookie, a second round rookie at that. But obviously 13 00:00:50,440 --> 00:00:52,320 Speaker 1: you guys know the deal by now. Carson Wentz is 14 00:00:52,360 --> 00:00:56,520 Speaker 1: going to indeed to reunite with his former offensive coordinator 15 00:00:56,520 --> 00:00:59,840 Speaker 1: Frank Reich, and in return the Eagles, who had been 16 00:01:00,040 --> 00:01:03,520 Speaker 1: demanding multiple first round picks, which is fall out of 17 00:01:03,560 --> 00:01:07,480 Speaker 1: your chair, laughable, they ended up getting a third round 18 00:01:07,560 --> 00:01:12,600 Speaker 1: pick in this draft and a conditional two that could 19 00:01:12,680 --> 00:01:16,480 Speaker 1: be a one next year. Now for it for the 20 00:01:16,480 --> 00:01:19,320 Speaker 1: contintion to be met, either Carson Wentz has to stay 21 00:01:19,360 --> 00:01:22,520 Speaker 1: healthy and play the snaps or he has to play 22 00:01:22,560 --> 00:01:24,800 Speaker 1: seventy of the snaps and they get to the playoffs. 23 00:01:25,400 --> 00:01:27,120 Speaker 1: I'm gonna go ahead and tell you right off the top, 24 00:01:27,840 --> 00:01:31,800 Speaker 1: I don't love this deal for either side. I think 25 00:01:31,840 --> 00:01:34,240 Speaker 1: it's good that the Eagles are starting over and punting 26 00:01:34,280 --> 00:01:37,120 Speaker 1: and moving on from Wentz, which you know when you 27 00:01:37,240 --> 00:01:40,440 Speaker 1: bench a franchise quarterback and he says he doesn't like this, 28 00:01:40,480 --> 00:01:42,720 Speaker 1: he doesn't want to be a backup. Trade me like, 29 00:01:43,080 --> 00:01:44,759 Speaker 1: that's a bad side. You gotta get him out of town. 30 00:01:44,800 --> 00:01:47,040 Speaker 1: So from that perspective, it was good. The value they 31 00:01:47,040 --> 00:01:50,520 Speaker 1: got in return was nothing. Um. The problem is, and 32 00:01:50,560 --> 00:01:53,160 Speaker 1: I dove into this four Fox Sports, I wrote a 33 00:01:53,160 --> 00:01:56,840 Speaker 1: column about from a gambling perspective, what does this do 34 00:01:58,040 --> 00:01:59,760 Speaker 1: for the Colts? And I think you guys have to 35 00:01:59,760 --> 00:02:02,280 Speaker 1: remember where everything lined up perfectly last year. Philip Rivers 36 00:02:02,360 --> 00:02:06,360 Speaker 1: came in veteran quarterback, and one number that jumped out 37 00:02:06,360 --> 00:02:08,480 Speaker 1: of me. He was only sacked nineteen times last year, 38 00:02:08,919 --> 00:02:11,959 Speaker 1: second fewest of his career. He's usually a thirty thirty 39 00:02:11,960 --> 00:02:14,560 Speaker 1: five sac a year guy. The offensive line was so 40 00:02:14,600 --> 00:02:17,440 Speaker 1: good they protected Rivers. He was able to get them 41 00:02:17,440 --> 00:02:19,520 Speaker 1: to eleven and five, they get to the playoffs, they 42 00:02:19,600 --> 00:02:23,040 Speaker 1: nearly beat Buffalo, they covered. That's all the matter to me. Um. 43 00:02:23,240 --> 00:02:26,200 Speaker 1: But the problem is the Team A does not have 44 00:02:26,320 --> 00:02:29,040 Speaker 1: as easy of a schedule next season. They had the 45 00:02:29,080 --> 00:02:32,240 Speaker 1: easiest schedule in heading into the season. That's not the case. 46 00:02:32,280 --> 00:02:34,880 Speaker 1: They have to play the NFC West and the a 47 00:02:35,040 --> 00:02:37,400 Speaker 1: f C East. Um, And you can mock the a 48 00:02:37,480 --> 00:02:39,440 Speaker 1: f C East all you want, folks. Uh, the Buffalo 49 00:02:39,440 --> 00:02:42,080 Speaker 1: Bills made the playoffs. The Miami Dolphins were right there. 50 00:02:42,800 --> 00:02:46,120 Speaker 1: I don't think anybody believes that BILLI. Bill Belichick's Patriots 51 00:02:46,120 --> 00:02:49,040 Speaker 1: are done and my Jets are my Jets, so they're 52 00:02:49,040 --> 00:02:52,880 Speaker 1: not gonna be awful next year. Um. I just I 53 00:02:52,919 --> 00:02:56,040 Speaker 1: can see the Colts not winning the division and missing 54 00:02:56,040 --> 00:02:58,040 Speaker 1: the playoffs. And I looked at the Super Bowl odes 55 00:02:58,080 --> 00:03:00,600 Speaker 1: which is a big tell. What does Vegas thing? Okay, 56 00:03:00,680 --> 00:03:03,520 Speaker 1: the Rams, when they got Stafford, their odds shut up. 57 00:03:04,320 --> 00:03:08,400 Speaker 1: Vegas believed in that deal. When the Colts got wins, 58 00:03:09,080 --> 00:03:13,640 Speaker 1: their Super Bowl odds barely nudged from So not a 59 00:03:13,639 --> 00:03:16,520 Speaker 1: lot of people in the Desert are believing in Carson Wentz. 60 00:03:16,600 --> 00:03:19,160 Speaker 1: And you know, think about this for set, guys, what 61 00:03:19,280 --> 00:03:22,280 Speaker 1: are we talking about with wins? Is all? We're hanging 62 00:03:22,280 --> 00:03:26,400 Speaker 1: our hat on his near m VP season because if 63 00:03:26,400 --> 00:03:28,800 Speaker 1: that's it, that ain't a lot to hang your hat on. 64 00:03:29,400 --> 00:03:32,960 Speaker 1: I mean, the injuries have mounted, you know, the level 65 00:03:33,000 --> 00:03:36,440 Speaker 1: of play dropped dramatically. And let's remember Carson Wentz has 66 00:03:36,440 --> 00:03:40,240 Speaker 1: the exact same numbers of playoff wins as Matt Stafford zero. 67 00:03:41,040 --> 00:03:44,440 Speaker 1: So I like the Colts a lot next year. Um, 68 00:03:44,840 --> 00:03:47,160 Speaker 1: from a team perspective, like I like the Kid Pittman, 69 00:03:47,160 --> 00:03:51,400 Speaker 1: the wide receiver. I really like, obviously the talented running 70 00:03:51,400 --> 00:03:54,560 Speaker 1: back Jonathan Taylor. I like the offensive line, but look 71 00:03:54,600 --> 00:03:58,360 Speaker 1: at the defense. Four week one starters from the depth 72 00:03:58,440 --> 00:04:01,000 Speaker 1: chart are free agents. I mean, it ain't gonna be 73 00:04:01,000 --> 00:04:05,560 Speaker 1: easy to patch that stuff up. They're adding Wentz. I mean, listen, 74 00:04:05,560 --> 00:04:07,880 Speaker 1: the upside is obviously there, but look at the division. 75 00:04:07,960 --> 00:04:12,200 Speaker 1: Jacksonville got significantly better. Okay, you're adding Urban Meyer, you're 76 00:04:12,240 --> 00:04:14,480 Speaker 1: adding Trevor Lawrence, You've got another first round pick, You've 77 00:04:14,520 --> 00:04:16,520 Speaker 1: got a lot of money to spend in the cat 78 00:04:16,640 --> 00:04:19,000 Speaker 1: uh in free agency. I think the Jags go from 79 00:04:19,040 --> 00:04:22,279 Speaker 1: one win to five or six. You know, Um, I 80 00:04:22,320 --> 00:04:26,280 Speaker 1: look at Tennessee. I they rely, Um, they should be good. 81 00:04:26,279 --> 00:04:29,160 Speaker 1: They lose their offensive coordinator Arthur Smith to the Falcons, 82 00:04:29,320 --> 00:04:31,080 Speaker 1: but they're not gonna fall off a cliff. I do 83 00:04:31,120 --> 00:04:33,200 Speaker 1: think Derrick Henry stats go down, but I think that 84 00:04:33,240 --> 00:04:36,680 Speaker 1: Titans are gonna be okay. And one key number in 85 00:04:36,720 --> 00:04:38,360 Speaker 1: the division. You think, oh, the culture, the class of 86 00:04:38,400 --> 00:04:42,840 Speaker 1: the division. One in five against the spread against Jacksonville, 87 00:04:43,200 --> 00:04:45,800 Speaker 1: Houston and Tennessee. And you notice I didn't even mention 88 00:04:45,880 --> 00:04:49,120 Speaker 1: Houston because they're a dumpster fire and they stink um. 89 00:04:49,160 --> 00:04:53,680 Speaker 1: But for whatever reason, Rob G is extremely bullish on 90 00:04:53,680 --> 00:04:55,800 Speaker 1: this cold steal. I didn't know he had a bromance 91 00:04:55,839 --> 00:04:57,680 Speaker 1: going on with Carson Wentz. I didn't know he like 92 00:04:57,760 --> 00:05:01,000 Speaker 1: redheads who cried their way out of town. Um. But 93 00:05:01,080 --> 00:05:05,160 Speaker 1: here we are, Rob G. Explain yourself. Well, first off, 94 00:05:05,200 --> 00:05:06,880 Speaker 1: I don't know what you have against redheads. I mean 95 00:05:06,960 --> 00:05:10,000 Speaker 1: that is just prejudice on on its face. But no, 96 00:05:10,360 --> 00:05:13,919 Speaker 1: as for the Colt, I think this is a fantastic 97 00:05:13,960 --> 00:05:16,520 Speaker 1: deal because number one, like you mentioned, they didn't really 98 00:05:16,520 --> 00:05:18,200 Speaker 1: give up a whole lot. I mean it's I mean, 99 00:05:18,240 --> 00:05:20,279 Speaker 1: we agree it's going to be a third this year 100 00:05:20,279 --> 00:05:23,600 Speaker 1: in the first next year. But if you're getting a 101 00:05:23,680 --> 00:05:28,960 Speaker 1: franchise caliber quarterback and who's young. That's dirt cheap. So 102 00:05:29,080 --> 00:05:30,520 Speaker 1: I mean, if you have any kind of faith in 103 00:05:30,600 --> 00:05:34,920 Speaker 1: Carson Wentz, then that's that's nothing. I think that's there's 104 00:05:34,920 --> 00:05:38,160 Speaker 1: a fair question. Is Carson Wentz the franchise quarterback? Rob 105 00:05:38,200 --> 00:05:45,159 Speaker 1: g Yes, Yes, Like, like, don't don't let the season, 106 00:05:46,000 --> 00:05:49,280 Speaker 1: you know, cloud your judgment. It was a nightmare. He 107 00:05:49,360 --> 00:05:52,520 Speaker 1: had I want to say, something like fourteen different offensive 108 00:05:52,520 --> 00:05:54,599 Speaker 1: line combinations. He was throwing to me and you a 109 00:05:54,600 --> 00:05:57,000 Speaker 1: wide receiver and I know that you've got good hands, 110 00:05:57,000 --> 00:06:00,480 Speaker 1: but you're not that fast. I mean, like, was a 111 00:06:00,640 --> 00:06:04,400 Speaker 1: a terrible, terrible season. There's there's no glossing that over. 112 00:06:04,440 --> 00:06:06,320 Speaker 1: He he was bad, the team was bad. It was 113 00:06:06,360 --> 00:06:10,080 Speaker 1: it was terrible. But go back the previous three seasons, 114 00:06:10,120 --> 00:06:16,160 Speaker 1: even not counting the MVP seasons. He was in quarterback 115 00:06:16,240 --> 00:06:19,360 Speaker 1: rating in ten, he was seventh in eighteen, and then 116 00:06:19,400 --> 00:06:22,479 Speaker 1: he was fourth in the MVP season in seventeen. So 117 00:06:23,480 --> 00:06:26,880 Speaker 1: at worst, even if you say he's closer to thirteen 118 00:06:26,920 --> 00:06:29,440 Speaker 1: than he is the four, he's the top ten quarterback 119 00:06:29,480 --> 00:06:32,240 Speaker 1: in the NFL. Oh geez, that is a quantum le 120 00:06:33,080 --> 00:06:35,000 Speaker 1: hold on. Let me let me hit you the stat. Okay, 121 00:06:35,240 --> 00:06:40,240 Speaker 1: since he signed that extension in twenty eight million dollars. 122 00:06:40,279 --> 00:06:42,880 Speaker 1: Carson Wentz started twenty nine games and turned the ball 123 00:06:42,920 --> 00:06:46,440 Speaker 1: over forty eight times. Like I get it. He the 124 00:06:46,440 --> 00:06:49,520 Speaker 1: offensive line was held together by duct tape and the 125 00:06:49,560 --> 00:06:53,600 Speaker 1: receivers were in and out. It was pathetic. But nevertheless, 126 00:06:53,839 --> 00:06:57,479 Speaker 1: forty eight turnovers in twenty nine games. So you're essentially saying, 127 00:06:57,560 --> 00:06:59,640 Speaker 1: I'm betting that Winson will be the guy he was 128 00:07:00,040 --> 00:07:02,880 Speaker 1: three and four years ago, not the guy he was 129 00:07:03,040 --> 00:07:05,240 Speaker 1: the last one in two years. No, I'm betting that 130 00:07:05,279 --> 00:07:07,359 Speaker 1: he's somewhere in the middle. But in the middle, is 131 00:07:07,360 --> 00:07:09,920 Speaker 1: still a top ten quarterback or at what top twelve? 132 00:07:09,960 --> 00:07:12,360 Speaker 1: If you yeah, yeah, tennis stretching it. I mean I'm 133 00:07:12,360 --> 00:07:14,920 Speaker 1: about to say, give me your top ten because I mean, 134 00:07:14,960 --> 00:07:17,240 Speaker 1: look at it this way. If you're looking at just numbers, 135 00:07:17,320 --> 00:07:20,520 Speaker 1: Derek carrs a top ten quarterback, and I like Deryck Car, 136 00:07:20,640 --> 00:07:21,720 Speaker 1: but I don't know if I would call him a 137 00:07:21,760 --> 00:07:26,080 Speaker 1: top ten based on what we've seen Ryan Tannehill or 138 00:07:26,120 --> 00:07:30,040 Speaker 1: Carson Wentz. Oh, well, the thing is you got to 139 00:07:30,080 --> 00:07:32,840 Speaker 1: bring in the Frank, right, you know, That's that's the 140 00:07:33,240 --> 00:07:35,400 Speaker 1: equalizer there. So I think if you have the Reich 141 00:07:35,680 --> 00:07:39,920 Speaker 1: Wentz combination, and you have Ryan Tannehill with another new 142 00:07:39,960 --> 00:07:43,360 Speaker 1: offensive coordinator. Give me Carson Wentz Josh Allen or Carson 143 00:07:43,360 --> 00:07:47,760 Speaker 1: Wentz Josh Allen. He brings everybody back. So that's an 144 00:07:47,760 --> 00:07:54,640 Speaker 1: easy question. Matt Stafford or Carson Wentz, Sean McVeigh. Sean 145 00:07:54,680 --> 00:07:57,120 Speaker 1: McVeigh is the quarterback whisper, so I've been told, So 146 00:07:57,320 --> 00:08:01,080 Speaker 1: I guess I would lean Stafford. Justin Herbert or Carson Wentz. 147 00:08:01,400 --> 00:08:04,320 Speaker 1: That's a no brainer, Justin Herbert. Yeah, there there's no 148 00:08:04,360 --> 00:08:06,000 Speaker 1: I don't I think you keep going down the list. 149 00:08:06,000 --> 00:08:10,000 Speaker 1: How about Okay, here's one. Here's one Kyler Murray or 150 00:08:10,040 --> 00:08:16,640 Speaker 1: Carson Wentz, Carson Wentz. Wow, Oh my gosh, Carson went 151 00:08:16,880 --> 00:08:22,040 Speaker 1: over Kyler Murray. Carson went with Frank Reich. It should be, 152 00:08:23,360 --> 00:08:26,400 Speaker 1: you know, Sean McVeigh with Matt Stafford. Ish not maybe 153 00:08:26,400 --> 00:08:29,080 Speaker 1: not that good, maybe not tie end, but it should 154 00:08:29,080 --> 00:08:33,480 Speaker 1: be something like that. The last time they were together, 155 00:08:34,280 --> 00:08:37,720 Speaker 1: Wentz led the league in total quarterback rating, took to 156 00:08:37,800 --> 00:08:40,839 Speaker 1: me total QBR, and he had the Eagles franchise record 157 00:08:40,840 --> 00:08:43,400 Speaker 1: for passing touchdowns. That's despite missing what was the last 158 00:08:43,440 --> 00:08:47,199 Speaker 1: game and a half of the season. So phenomenal. And 159 00:08:47,400 --> 00:08:48,800 Speaker 1: then here's the other thing. You brought it up right 160 00:08:48,840 --> 00:08:50,280 Speaker 1: at the top of the offensive line with the Colt 161 00:08:50,280 --> 00:08:52,640 Speaker 1: because they're The big issue with Carson Wentz was he 162 00:08:52,640 --> 00:08:55,600 Speaker 1: didn't trust his offensive line and he started to to 163 00:08:55,720 --> 00:08:57,760 Speaker 1: kind of do too much, which is everybody we talked 164 00:08:57,760 --> 00:08:59,760 Speaker 1: to you, that's what they said. He wasn't staying within 165 00:08:59,800 --> 00:09:03,000 Speaker 1: the structure the offense. He was skittish, he didn't trust anybody, 166 00:09:03,040 --> 00:09:04,280 Speaker 1: and he was trying to do too much, and that's 167 00:09:04,280 --> 00:09:08,679 Speaker 1: why he ultimately fell on his face. Last season, the 168 00:09:08,720 --> 00:09:13,600 Speaker 1: Colts afforded a protection rate of which is the third 169 00:09:13,679 --> 00:09:19,240 Speaker 1: highest in the NFL, and they attempted fifty one deep balls, 170 00:09:19,240 --> 00:09:21,319 Speaker 1: which is like the middle of the road eighteenth, which 171 00:09:21,360 --> 00:09:25,199 Speaker 1: means that despite having an incredible offensive line, either he 172 00:09:25,240 --> 00:09:27,280 Speaker 1: didn't have the arm or he didn't have the balls 173 00:09:27,320 --> 00:09:31,719 Speaker 1: to check it deep. Carson Wentz had a protection rate 174 00:09:31,720 --> 00:09:34,560 Speaker 1: of two, which sounds gooding out to be right in 175 00:09:34,600 --> 00:09:37,199 Speaker 1: the NFL. That's twenty nine in the league, so one 176 00:09:37,200 --> 00:09:40,240 Speaker 1: of the worst protection rates in the NFL, and even 177 00:09:40,280 --> 00:09:45,440 Speaker 1: still Big Doug Peterson, with Carson went to again trying 178 00:09:45,440 --> 00:09:49,079 Speaker 1: to do too much, attempted the sixteenth most deep balls, 179 00:09:49,120 --> 00:09:52,480 Speaker 1: So he was attempting more deep passes than Philip Rivers 180 00:09:52,640 --> 00:09:56,720 Speaker 1: with a way, way worse offensive line. So you would 181 00:09:56,720 --> 00:10:00,040 Speaker 1: assume that in that offense, with that protection, his his 182 00:10:00,120 --> 00:10:02,880 Speaker 1: propensity to want to make plays and stretch the field, 183 00:10:03,559 --> 00:10:07,520 Speaker 1: I think that he could be in for a resurgencies. 184 00:10:07,559 --> 00:10:10,679 Speaker 1: I'm not saying m v P, but I'm definitely saying 185 00:10:10,720 --> 00:10:14,880 Speaker 1: he's closer to like I mentioned, that top ten than 186 00:10:14,920 --> 00:10:17,480 Speaker 1: he is to the bottom ten, which is he's been 187 00:10:17,600 --> 00:10:21,120 Speaker 1: last season. Okay, so I'll give you this, Carson Wentz 188 00:10:21,160 --> 00:10:25,480 Speaker 1: can't get any worse. So, of thirty six graded quarterbacks 189 00:10:25,559 --> 00:10:28,800 Speaker 1: last year, according to Football Outsiders, in two of the 190 00:10:28,800 --> 00:10:31,880 Speaker 1: four categories, Carson Wentz rank dead last. He was thirty 191 00:10:31,880 --> 00:10:34,040 Speaker 1: fifth and another and twenty nine than another. So he 192 00:10:34,080 --> 00:10:36,640 Speaker 1: can only get better. And I'm with you, like it 193 00:10:36,760 --> 00:10:39,560 Speaker 1: sets up with that offensive line, a lot of handoffs 194 00:10:39,600 --> 00:10:42,440 Speaker 1: to Jonathan Taylor, who was phenomenal as a rookie. And 195 00:10:42,440 --> 00:10:44,040 Speaker 1: if you think back to when they went to the 196 00:10:44,040 --> 00:10:46,480 Speaker 1: Super Bowl, the Eagles had a good run game that year. 197 00:10:46,760 --> 00:10:49,400 Speaker 1: Uh Le, Garrett Blunt had over seven hundred yards, Corey 198 00:10:49,400 --> 00:10:53,120 Speaker 1: Clement over three hundred, j e over four hundred. So 199 00:10:53,400 --> 00:10:56,520 Speaker 1: that's a fourteen hundred yard rushing attack. So it's not 200 00:10:56,679 --> 00:10:58,960 Speaker 1: just went storing sitting back and jacking it up. Because 201 00:10:59,000 --> 00:11:01,280 Speaker 1: remember t Yton as a free agent, don't know if 202 00:11:01,280 --> 00:11:04,080 Speaker 1: he's coming back. I do like Pittman Um Wentz has 203 00:11:04,120 --> 00:11:06,960 Speaker 1: thrived in the multiple tight end sets in Philly. He 204 00:11:07,080 --> 00:11:10,079 Speaker 1: should do the same with Um. You know the likes 205 00:11:10,120 --> 00:11:13,520 Speaker 1: of who are all Mo, Ali Cox assuming he stays, 206 00:11:13,600 --> 00:11:16,040 Speaker 1: and Um the kid Jack Doyle. I mean, they got 207 00:11:16,200 --> 00:11:18,480 Speaker 1: a fleet of tight ends. So it does set up 208 00:11:18,480 --> 00:11:22,320 Speaker 1: as a potential good trade. But I just have a 209 00:11:22,360 --> 00:11:27,199 Speaker 1: problem saying with any certainty Wentz's gonna absolutely dominate Um 210 00:11:27,600 --> 00:11:30,040 Speaker 1: or even come close to it. My big question for you, 211 00:11:30,120 --> 00:11:32,200 Speaker 1: rob Gi, when I look at the one situation is 212 00:11:33,080 --> 00:11:36,000 Speaker 1: you know, what does it say that the New York Jets, 213 00:11:36,559 --> 00:11:40,200 Speaker 1: who's GM Joe Douglas was in the Eagles front office 214 00:11:40,200 --> 00:11:42,719 Speaker 1: when they drafted Wentz. He has a Super Bowl ring 215 00:11:42,760 --> 00:11:45,280 Speaker 1: with Nick Foles that the Jets did not even kick 216 00:11:45,320 --> 00:11:49,280 Speaker 1: the tires on Carson Wentz no reports of any contact. 217 00:11:50,040 --> 00:11:52,720 Speaker 1: Is that, well, we're not close to the super Bowl. 218 00:11:52,800 --> 00:11:55,520 Speaker 1: What are we doing with Wentz? Or is that like 219 00:11:55,559 --> 00:11:57,839 Speaker 1: a man I got no faith in confidence in Carson 220 00:11:57,880 --> 00:11:59,880 Speaker 1: Wentz to me, that's two thing. It says number one, 221 00:12:00,640 --> 00:12:02,320 Speaker 1: they would much rather if they're going to trade for 222 00:12:02,320 --> 00:12:04,840 Speaker 1: any veteran quarterbacks, gonna be Deshaun Watson, not gonna be 223 00:12:04,840 --> 00:12:07,199 Speaker 1: Carson Wentz. You're gonna get the sure thing, who you know, 224 00:12:07,520 --> 00:12:11,080 Speaker 1: at minimum is a top seven quarterback. I think it's 225 00:12:11,120 --> 00:12:12,760 Speaker 1: higher than that, but at minimum he's right up there, 226 00:12:13,160 --> 00:12:15,079 Speaker 1: and Carson Wentz, you know, for all of his talent, 227 00:12:15,200 --> 00:12:17,440 Speaker 1: is still you need the right situation. That's number one. 228 00:12:17,520 --> 00:12:20,440 Speaker 1: Number two. It also says I have the number two 229 00:12:20,520 --> 00:12:24,320 Speaker 1: pick in the draft, and according to multiple outlets, now 230 00:12:25,040 --> 00:12:28,600 Speaker 1: Zack Wilson is a better NFL prospect than Trevor Lawrence. 231 00:12:28,600 --> 00:12:30,800 Speaker 1: I don't know if I agree, girl, Oh stop, what 232 00:12:31,000 --> 00:12:33,000 Speaker 1: we didn't I refused to make that a topic is 233 00:12:33,080 --> 00:12:34,520 Speaker 1: I don't know if I agree with that, but there 234 00:12:34,559 --> 00:12:36,679 Speaker 1: have been multiple people who when I went on record, 235 00:12:36,720 --> 00:12:39,280 Speaker 1: you've had a couple of scouts laid anonymously. So I 236 00:12:39,320 --> 00:12:42,920 Speaker 1: think in their mind, either you take the sure thing 237 00:12:42,960 --> 00:12:45,560 Speaker 1: and Deshaun Watson, or you take the high upside rookie 238 00:12:45,600 --> 00:12:47,440 Speaker 1: where it doesn't really kill you if he's not great, 239 00:12:47,440 --> 00:12:49,200 Speaker 1: because it doesn't hurt your salary cap as much as 240 00:12:49,200 --> 00:12:51,800 Speaker 1: a twenty five plus million dollar a year, Carson Wentz. 241 00:12:53,360 --> 00:12:55,280 Speaker 1: I guess the other thing, the other aspect of people 242 00:12:55,280 --> 00:12:58,240 Speaker 1: nobody's really talking about is what up with the Eagles? Um? 243 00:12:58,400 --> 00:13:00,240 Speaker 1: Do you think they take a quarterback at s X? 244 00:13:00,360 --> 00:13:03,320 Speaker 1: Is Jalen Hurts the guy? Remember we had a story 245 00:13:03,440 --> 00:13:07,840 Speaker 1: I think it was Monday that Jalen Hurts was rounding 246 00:13:07,920 --> 00:13:11,760 Speaker 1: up the Eagles receivers to go work out in Texas. Now, um, 247 00:13:12,480 --> 00:13:14,080 Speaker 1: I don't know if that was in concrete, but that 248 00:13:14,160 --> 00:13:16,880 Speaker 1: spoke volumes that, hey, Jalen Hurts things, he's the guy, 249 00:13:17,040 --> 00:13:19,920 Speaker 1: and Jalen Hurts is gonna, you know, possibly put on 250 00:13:19,920 --> 00:13:22,440 Speaker 1: a show in Philly. Too small of a sample size 251 00:13:22,480 --> 00:13:24,839 Speaker 1: to say for certain if he's the guy, But my 252 00:13:25,040 --> 00:13:28,720 Speaker 1: gut tells me they do not draft a quarterback at six. Now, listen, 253 00:13:28,720 --> 00:13:31,280 Speaker 1: we've got two months to go. But if you're not 254 00:13:31,280 --> 00:13:33,960 Speaker 1: getting the best quarterback or you're not getting the second best, 255 00:13:34,000 --> 00:13:36,400 Speaker 1: and you've got Jalen Hurts on the rookie deal, I 256 00:13:36,440 --> 00:13:39,760 Speaker 1: think you get a you rebuild that offensive line, right, 257 00:13:40,040 --> 00:13:42,439 Speaker 1: maybe you build the defensive line because they got pushed 258 00:13:42,440 --> 00:13:44,400 Speaker 1: around a bit and the trenches last year. I think 259 00:13:44,400 --> 00:13:46,800 Speaker 1: this is an opportunity to build around, and you find 260 00:13:46,800 --> 00:13:48,640 Speaker 1: out it hurts as the guy. If he's not, you 261 00:13:48,720 --> 00:13:52,720 Speaker 1: go back drafting a quarterback next year. UM. I definitely 262 00:13:52,760 --> 00:13:55,760 Speaker 1: think there's an opportunity here for the Eagles too. I 263 00:13:55,760 --> 00:13:57,720 Speaker 1: don't want to say take a gap year because fans 264 00:13:57,760 --> 00:14:01,040 Speaker 1: hate that, but you've got a new coach, a new quarterback. 265 00:14:01,400 --> 00:14:05,360 Speaker 1: It's just a lot of newness. Um. I I think 266 00:14:05,400 --> 00:14:07,959 Speaker 1: the Eagles probably are like, you know, a six five 267 00:14:08,040 --> 00:14:10,959 Speaker 1: or six seven win team next year, but they're building 268 00:14:11,000 --> 00:14:14,040 Speaker 1: toward an optimistic future. Do you like the Eagles next year? 269 00:14:14,200 --> 00:14:15,600 Speaker 1: I do. I think that. Like I said, I think 270 00:14:15,600 --> 00:14:17,319 Speaker 1: they'd be making a mistake if the draft a quarterback 271 00:14:17,360 --> 00:14:18,560 Speaker 1: just because you don't know what you have in Jalen 272 00:14:18,640 --> 00:14:20,440 Speaker 1: Hurts yet and he showed enough last season where you 273 00:14:20,440 --> 00:14:22,960 Speaker 1: shouldn give him a chance. Um. I think that the 274 00:14:23,280 --> 00:14:26,160 Speaker 1: big key. I believe that Atlanta picks fourth. I think 275 00:14:26,200 --> 00:14:29,640 Speaker 1: I'm correct on that, and they're picking six. So I 276 00:14:29,640 --> 00:14:32,200 Speaker 1: think the team if if Atlanta doesn't take a quarterback, 277 00:14:32,800 --> 00:14:35,200 Speaker 1: I think that number six spot is a right place 278 00:14:35,280 --> 00:14:37,640 Speaker 1: to move down, maybe to Carolina, because Carolina, as we 279 00:14:37,680 --> 00:14:40,160 Speaker 1: know it is desperate for a quarterback right now. So 280 00:14:40,280 --> 00:14:42,240 Speaker 1: you might be able to get more picks and more 281 00:14:42,640 --> 00:14:46,240 Speaker 1: to rebuild that treasure chest and get some receivers, get 282 00:14:46,280 --> 00:14:48,040 Speaker 1: some offensive line, gets some thing so you can get 283 00:14:48,040 --> 00:14:49,920 Speaker 1: at least give Jalen hurt To the chance to see 284 00:14:49,920 --> 00:14:52,640 Speaker 1: if he can be your quarterback. Yeah, that would be smart. 285 00:14:52,680 --> 00:14:55,120 Speaker 1: And we need to thank Doug Peterson for tanking in 286 00:14:55,160 --> 00:14:58,680 Speaker 1: the final game they lose. Yeah, if they lose that game, 287 00:14:58,720 --> 00:15:01,040 Speaker 1: remember they're picking ninth and you have no shot at 288 00:15:01,040 --> 00:15:03,560 Speaker 1: fields or trade lance if you like them, Because um, 289 00:15:03,800 --> 00:15:05,880 Speaker 1: like you said, Caroline is ahead of them. I won't 290 00:15:05,920 --> 00:15:08,640 Speaker 1: rule out to Shaun Watson to Carolina. I mean I 291 00:15:08,920 --> 00:15:11,560 Speaker 1: I the people who told me this a few weeks back, 292 00:15:11,560 --> 00:15:15,680 Speaker 1: when I said on Cowherd, show I trust and Watson 293 00:15:15,720 --> 00:15:20,120 Speaker 1: has a powerful agent. Um. We we've seen, Um, Matt 294 00:15:20,120 --> 00:15:23,040 Speaker 1: Stafford asked for a trade, got it. We've seen Carson 295 00:15:23,080 --> 00:15:25,080 Speaker 1: Wentz asked for a trade. Got it. Both of them, 296 00:15:25,120 --> 00:15:26,760 Speaker 1: by the way, landed kind of where they wanted to 297 00:15:26,800 --> 00:15:29,880 Speaker 1: write Stafford lance. He said he wanted l A Wentz 298 00:15:29,960 --> 00:15:33,520 Speaker 1: obviously at a preference to Reich. What happens with Watson, 299 00:15:33,680 --> 00:15:37,560 Speaker 1: Obviously it's not apples to apples people. Watson is younger, 300 00:15:37,960 --> 00:15:41,240 Speaker 1: in his prime. Um, you know, they have him at 301 00:15:41,240 --> 00:15:44,520 Speaker 1: the beginning of a contract. He hasn't been benched. Um, 302 00:15:44,560 --> 00:15:48,720 Speaker 1: So it's not remotely the same. But it is interesting 303 00:15:48,720 --> 00:15:51,560 Speaker 1: to me that the two guys who said I want out, 304 00:15:51,920 --> 00:15:53,400 Speaker 1: get me the hell out of here, get where they 305 00:15:53,400 --> 00:15:57,160 Speaker 1: want to go. I actually believe Watson is going to 306 00:15:57,200 --> 00:15:58,840 Speaker 1: be traded. I know some people think there's no way 307 00:15:58,840 --> 00:16:01,720 Speaker 1: they trade them. I think they're dealing them. I agree, 308 00:16:01,840 --> 00:16:04,080 Speaker 1: I agree. I think at this only is going to 309 00:16:04,200 --> 00:16:05,920 Speaker 1: speed up the process. I feel like because now you're 310 00:16:05,920 --> 00:16:08,960 Speaker 1: starting to see what the benchmark is for trades for quarterbacks. 311 00:16:08,960 --> 00:16:11,760 Speaker 1: You saw what the Stafford was conditioning, being that you 312 00:16:11,800 --> 00:16:14,280 Speaker 1: had to give up more to take the golf contract. 313 00:16:14,560 --> 00:16:17,440 Speaker 1: You saw what the Wens deal was with the upside 314 00:16:17,440 --> 00:16:19,200 Speaker 1: of I think of of a Deshaun Watson more so 315 00:16:19,280 --> 00:16:23,280 Speaker 1: than as Stafford does, but the uncertainty with how much 316 00:16:23,360 --> 00:16:24,760 Speaker 1: he is gonna go for. So I think this is 317 00:16:24,800 --> 00:16:29,040 Speaker 1: only kind of setting the framework for what exactly Watson 318 00:16:29,040 --> 00:16:31,840 Speaker 1: goes for. I think before you're you were looking at 319 00:16:32,200 --> 00:16:34,760 Speaker 1: three picks and maybe more. I think now the minimum 320 00:16:34,840 --> 00:16:38,960 Speaker 1: is three picks and more. All right, we've we've had 321 00:16:38,960 --> 00:16:41,680 Speaker 1: a fun NFL offseason already, folks. You know we said 322 00:16:41,720 --> 00:16:43,800 Speaker 1: it was gonna be bumpy and wild and crazy like 323 00:16:43,960 --> 00:16:47,400 Speaker 1: NBA ish. We've now seen two franchise quarterbacks get traded 324 00:16:47,760 --> 00:16:49,600 Speaker 1: and we haven't even hit the combine. I know there's 325 00:16:49,640 --> 00:16:52,560 Speaker 1: no combine this year, but combine usually end of February. 326 00:16:53,040 --> 00:16:57,520 Speaker 1: Um is Deshaun Watson? Next is Trobitsky? Next, Um where's 327 00:16:57,600 --> 00:17:00,480 Speaker 1: Nick Fole's gonna It's so many more questions, but that's 328 00:17:00,520 --> 00:17:03,720 Speaker 1: for another day. Now. We have to absolutely talk about 329 00:17:03,800 --> 00:17:06,720 Speaker 1: Lakers Nets from last night. All right, So Rob G 330 00:17:06,840 --> 00:17:09,720 Speaker 1: and I were all pumped up for Nets Lakers, thinking, oh, 331 00:17:09,720 --> 00:17:13,280 Speaker 1: we've got a great game, some awesome content for the podcast, 332 00:17:13,359 --> 00:17:15,720 Speaker 1: and then you know, like two hours before the game, 333 00:17:15,760 --> 00:17:19,879 Speaker 1: Dennis Shrewder gets ruled out due to COVID tracing, and 334 00:17:20,080 --> 00:17:21,560 Speaker 1: you know it was gonna be a blood bath and 335 00:17:21,560 --> 00:17:23,679 Speaker 1: the Lakers had no chance. From the jump. It was 336 00:17:24,280 --> 00:17:29,240 Speaker 1: Nets just dominated them. Harden was incredible, And uh, if 337 00:17:29,240 --> 00:17:31,960 Speaker 1: you listen to the podcast every day, you heard Rob 338 00:17:32,040 --> 00:17:35,600 Speaker 1: and I talk about the Nets ancillary players and his 339 00:17:35,680 --> 00:17:38,159 Speaker 1: name came up. What robbed like four times t l 340 00:17:38,320 --> 00:17:44,639 Speaker 1: C five for eight on three He made more threes 341 00:17:44,720 --> 00:17:47,280 Speaker 1: at one point in the game than the entire Lakers team. 342 00:17:47,400 --> 00:17:50,520 Speaker 1: This was like late third quarter, and um, this is 343 00:17:50,560 --> 00:17:52,600 Speaker 1: what the Nets need. They need Joe Harris to show 344 00:17:52,600 --> 00:17:55,919 Speaker 1: out with six threes and get TLC to chip in 345 00:17:55,960 --> 00:17:58,919 Speaker 1: off the bench, and when you get Kevin Durant and 346 00:17:59,000 --> 00:18:00,760 Speaker 1: Harden's play a ford even it's in the playoffs and 347 00:18:00,800 --> 00:18:04,679 Speaker 1: Kyrie is too. I don't know, Rob, I did like 348 00:18:04,760 --> 00:18:09,200 Speaker 1: my Sixers Lakers bet from early in the UH before 349 00:18:09,200 --> 00:18:11,879 Speaker 1: the season, but I don't see a scenario where the 350 00:18:11,920 --> 00:18:14,320 Speaker 1: seventy Sixers can beat this this Nets team. And I'm 351 00:18:14,320 --> 00:18:18,600 Speaker 1: not overreacting to a beat down of h I mean 352 00:18:18,640 --> 00:18:23,439 Speaker 1: a gutted Lakers team. It feels like you're overreacting. They 353 00:18:23,480 --> 00:18:25,360 Speaker 1: will beat down with a guy Laker just because. I mean, 354 00:18:26,400 --> 00:18:28,960 Speaker 1: I don't care what team you are. If it's the Lakers, 355 00:18:29,000 --> 00:18:31,119 Speaker 1: if it's the Sixers in this case, it's the Nets. 356 00:18:31,840 --> 00:18:35,120 Speaker 1: If you're number four and five or six and seven, 357 00:18:35,160 --> 00:18:38,600 Speaker 1: whatever number. Though, like Harris and and TLCR are eleven 358 00:18:38,640 --> 00:18:40,960 Speaker 1: of fourteen from three when the game is still kind 359 00:18:41,000 --> 00:18:42,720 Speaker 1: of in the balance. Because this is when I stopped 360 00:18:42,760 --> 00:18:44,480 Speaker 1: keeping tracking, when the eight minute left in the fourth quarter. 361 00:18:44,480 --> 00:18:46,439 Speaker 1: By then, it's just garbage. They were I thought the 362 00:18:46,560 --> 00:18:48,640 Speaker 1: entire fourth with garbage, but Lebron was on the court. 363 00:18:48,720 --> 00:18:50,800 Speaker 1: But I turned my daughter with six minutes, Why is 364 00:18:50,880 --> 00:18:53,720 Speaker 1: Lebron on the court? What the hell is going on? Right? 365 00:18:53,760 --> 00:18:55,600 Speaker 1: So when when I think it started at fifteen and 366 00:18:55,600 --> 00:18:57,120 Speaker 1: the fourth and then it got pushed the twenty three. 367 00:18:57,119 --> 00:18:59,000 Speaker 1: So but then I'm like, this is it's over? But 368 00:18:59,080 --> 00:19:02,560 Speaker 1: when when those anybody? If your fifth and six guys 369 00:19:02,640 --> 00:19:05,000 Speaker 1: are eleven of fourteen from three, I don't care who 370 00:19:05,080 --> 00:19:07,200 Speaker 1: you are, You're gonna lose. Like the other team is 371 00:19:07,200 --> 00:19:12,080 Speaker 1: gonna lose. So if Danny Green and Seth Curry go 372 00:19:12,160 --> 00:19:14,000 Speaker 1: eleven and fourteen from three in the game is the 373 00:19:14,080 --> 00:19:17,160 Speaker 1: nets then the six there will be one of those games. 374 00:19:17,160 --> 00:19:20,520 Speaker 1: I would agree, Um, But like the Lakers, you gotta 375 00:19:20,560 --> 00:19:24,000 Speaker 1: look at their bench against some pretty good competition, and 376 00:19:24,240 --> 00:19:26,720 Speaker 1: you know, Horton Tucker really struggles. He could get to 377 00:19:26,760 --> 00:19:30,359 Speaker 1: the rim, but his finishing ability just nothing. Caruso was 378 00:19:30,400 --> 00:19:33,239 Speaker 1: a negative twenty, couldn't throw it in the ocean. Um 379 00:19:33,400 --> 00:19:35,400 Speaker 1: didn't look confident at all. I don't know what's wrong 380 00:19:35,440 --> 00:19:38,639 Speaker 1: with Morris Um. Like he had moments in the bubble 381 00:19:38,640 --> 00:19:40,680 Speaker 1: where we're like, oh, okay, this guy is a contributor. 382 00:19:40,720 --> 00:19:44,320 Speaker 1: He's part of the rotation, and he just looks disinterested, 383 00:19:44,359 --> 00:19:46,800 Speaker 1: like I got my ring, I'm good, it looks out 384 00:19:46,800 --> 00:19:49,679 Speaker 1: of shape. Um. I don't know. This will be one 385 00:19:49,680 --> 00:19:52,160 Speaker 1: of those games where the Nets, who are twenty five 386 00:19:52,280 --> 00:19:56,560 Speaker 1: in the League of defense, held the Lakers to nine points, 387 00:19:57,080 --> 00:19:59,679 Speaker 1: and their defensive numbers will shoot up and improve. But 388 00:20:00,280 --> 00:20:02,760 Speaker 1: if you weren't watching or paying attention, you won't realize 389 00:20:02,760 --> 00:20:06,440 Speaker 1: oh no, a d no, Dennis Shrewder like this this 390 00:20:06,480 --> 00:20:09,320 Speaker 1: game shouldn't even really matter to the Lakers. No, not 391 00:20:09,359 --> 00:20:11,360 Speaker 1: at all. I don't think it's gonna matter to either team, 392 00:20:11,400 --> 00:20:12,720 Speaker 1: to be honest with you, Like, I don't think that 393 00:20:12,760 --> 00:20:14,760 Speaker 1: the Nets are going to go into any game expecting, 394 00:20:15,320 --> 00:20:17,600 Speaker 1: you know, they're fifth and six guys to shoot that 395 00:20:17,600 --> 00:20:20,240 Speaker 1: hot from three, and they're not expecting the Lake and 396 00:20:20,240 --> 00:20:21,960 Speaker 1: they they'd have Katie either way. The Lakers didn't have 397 00:20:21,920 --> 00:20:24,880 Speaker 1: Anthony Davis or Shrewder. So I don't think either team 398 00:20:24,920 --> 00:20:27,120 Speaker 1: was going to take much out of this other than hey, 399 00:20:27,359 --> 00:20:29,679 Speaker 1: you know, if if our bench guys make threes, we 400 00:20:29,680 --> 00:20:31,800 Speaker 1: can win. Another team off our bench guys don't make threes, 401 00:20:31,840 --> 00:20:33,639 Speaker 1: then we're not gonna win. So it's not much to 402 00:20:33,640 --> 00:20:35,960 Speaker 1: take out and you don't wanna. I just don't. I 403 00:20:35,960 --> 00:20:38,200 Speaker 1: don't have much material on this game other than James 404 00:20:38,240 --> 00:20:40,800 Speaker 1: Harden's better than Kyrie Irving, but you already knew that. Rob. 405 00:20:40,840 --> 00:20:44,160 Speaker 1: I'm going to go off script here, and like, I 406 00:20:44,200 --> 00:20:46,159 Speaker 1: didn't plan on watching some of this because I was. 407 00:20:46,200 --> 00:20:49,680 Speaker 1: I had bet on Iowa Wisconsin, and it was actually 408 00:20:49,720 --> 00:20:52,000 Speaker 1: a pretty good game for a minute. Iowa covered, thank 409 00:20:52,000 --> 00:20:55,480 Speaker 1: you very much. Um. But I was watching some Bucks 410 00:20:55,640 --> 00:21:01,600 Speaker 1: Raptors and again it's February, NBA largly as irrelevant, but 411 00:21:01,680 --> 00:21:03,760 Speaker 1: I didn't even realize the Bucks have now lost five 412 00:21:03,840 --> 00:21:07,480 Speaker 1: games in a row. Uh Drew Holiday did not play, 413 00:21:07,480 --> 00:21:10,120 Speaker 1: obviously that mattered, and the Raptors just scored it will 414 00:21:10,560 --> 00:21:15,200 Speaker 1: But they kept looking to Janice on the sideline and 415 00:21:16,240 --> 00:21:18,160 Speaker 1: he did not look like a happy camper. He had 416 00:21:18,160 --> 00:21:20,800 Speaker 1: his mask on and he had that look of I'm 417 00:21:20,840 --> 00:21:24,240 Speaker 1: shooting daggers at somebody. Um. I don't know if it 418 00:21:24,280 --> 00:21:25,520 Speaker 1: was the refs. I don't know if it was his 419 00:21:25,520 --> 00:21:28,919 Speaker 1: teammates or the Raptors. Janice doesn't seem happy. There's sixteen 420 00:21:28,960 --> 00:21:33,119 Speaker 1: and thirteen now, and the scary part is, Rob, they 421 00:21:33,160 --> 00:21:36,240 Speaker 1: were a top defense in the league. Number one defensive 422 00:21:36,280 --> 00:21:39,359 Speaker 1: efficiency the last two years and they're now down to 423 00:21:39,440 --> 00:21:43,399 Speaker 1: twelve and they have no bench because they sacrificed it 424 00:21:43,440 --> 00:21:46,920 Speaker 1: to get Drew Holiday, who I still believe is I 425 00:21:46,960 --> 00:21:49,000 Speaker 1: probably should have fact checked this. He's either a one 426 00:21:49,040 --> 00:21:51,600 Speaker 1: time All Star or a no time All Star. And 427 00:21:51,600 --> 00:21:54,560 Speaker 1: it was like, I like Drew Holidays, a nice player, 428 00:21:54,600 --> 00:21:56,920 Speaker 1: He's a great number three, but they don't have a 429 00:21:57,000 --> 00:22:00,119 Speaker 1: number two. I mean, Middleton stinks. Why are people all 430 00:22:00,160 --> 00:22:03,919 Speaker 1: over Middleton? I mean rob this, I mean Jhanna signed 431 00:22:03,920 --> 00:22:07,639 Speaker 1: this contract. I better see Barkley and Shaq keep that 432 00:22:07,680 --> 00:22:11,640 Speaker 1: same energy, relentlessly bashing nice the way they went after 433 00:22:11,640 --> 00:22:14,520 Speaker 1: the Warriors when they lost the seventy three wooden Warriors. 434 00:22:14,560 --> 00:22:17,080 Speaker 1: Because this is a Bucks team. I don't know right 435 00:22:17,119 --> 00:22:18,520 Speaker 1: now if they're getting out of the second round of 436 00:22:18,560 --> 00:22:20,879 Speaker 1: the playoffs, I'll do you one better. I don't know 437 00:22:20,880 --> 00:22:22,560 Speaker 1: if they get out of the first round of the playoffs. 438 00:22:23,800 --> 00:22:26,640 Speaker 1: And this is not even I don't I don't think 439 00:22:26,680 --> 00:22:28,240 Speaker 1: it's the hottest take I've had, because I've had some 440 00:22:28,240 --> 00:22:32,479 Speaker 1: pretty hot takes in my time. But I believe that 441 00:22:32,520 --> 00:22:36,560 Speaker 1: the Miami Heat broke the Milwaukee Bucks, and not that 442 00:22:36,560 --> 00:22:38,280 Speaker 1: I don't think the Bucks are a good team or 443 00:22:38,320 --> 00:22:41,560 Speaker 1: anything like that. But the way that Miami beat them 444 00:22:41,640 --> 00:22:45,280 Speaker 1: last year in the playoffs. We knew going into that 445 00:22:45,440 --> 00:22:49,199 Speaker 1: last year, like, hey, when teams former wall against Jhannice, 446 00:22:49,240 --> 00:22:51,600 Speaker 1: you gotta find a different way to score off have offense, 447 00:22:51,640 --> 00:22:54,560 Speaker 1: and hey, this drop coverage it works in the regular season, 448 00:22:54,560 --> 00:22:56,600 Speaker 1: were in the playoffs when teams can scheme against you, 449 00:22:56,960 --> 00:22:59,280 Speaker 1: it's not gonna work out. Well. They thought, hey, we 450 00:22:59,440 --> 00:23:04,080 Speaker 1: lost in twenty nineteen, we're back, we're hungry. Janice is 451 00:23:04,119 --> 00:23:06,040 Speaker 1: better than ever. We'll be able to get over the hub. 452 00:23:06,320 --> 00:23:10,080 Speaker 1: And they lost the exact same way to Miami, but 453 00:23:10,240 --> 00:23:12,680 Speaker 1: in a sweep, like it was an embarrassing way to lose. 454 00:23:13,080 --> 00:23:18,240 Speaker 1: So they decided, we're gonna change everything that made us successful. 455 00:23:18,880 --> 00:23:21,359 Speaker 1: We're we're gonna we're gonna run less of that drop coverage. 456 00:23:21,359 --> 00:23:24,480 Speaker 1: We're gonna sacrifice all of our depth, you know, offensively, 457 00:23:25,320 --> 00:23:27,720 Speaker 1: We're we're we're not gonna do this one four out 458 00:23:27,760 --> 00:23:30,280 Speaker 1: with Jannice as much because we know in the playoffs 459 00:23:30,320 --> 00:23:32,159 Speaker 1: that doesn't work like that. So we're gonna try to 460 00:23:32,160 --> 00:23:35,120 Speaker 1: do all these different things. Try something here, try something 461 00:23:35,160 --> 00:23:36,960 Speaker 1: there that's gonna help us in the playoffs, and in 462 00:23:37,000 --> 00:23:41,040 Speaker 1: the process of them tinkering with everything, they lost their way. 463 00:23:41,119 --> 00:23:42,679 Speaker 1: It's like a golf shot, Like as soon as you 464 00:23:42,840 --> 00:23:44,680 Speaker 1: realize if you get to a point in golf where 465 00:23:44,720 --> 00:23:47,159 Speaker 1: you know, hey, if I just you know, get my 466 00:23:47,200 --> 00:23:49,520 Speaker 1: hands over a little bit, I'll be able to draw 467 00:23:49,600 --> 00:23:51,399 Speaker 1: it into the right, and you're like, oh, well, now 468 00:23:51,400 --> 00:23:52,919 Speaker 1: I'm doing I'm doing that a little too much. If 469 00:23:52,960 --> 00:23:54,119 Speaker 1: I do it this way, I can get it back 470 00:23:54,160 --> 00:23:56,800 Speaker 1: to the left. And eventually you're tinkering with so many 471 00:23:56,840 --> 00:23:59,280 Speaker 1: different little things that you couldn't even hit it the 472 00:23:59,280 --> 00:24:01,359 Speaker 1: way you were hitting it before that you kept messing 473 00:24:01,359 --> 00:24:03,680 Speaker 1: with And that's where I think the Bucks are right now, 474 00:24:03,720 --> 00:24:07,080 Speaker 1: because they know that whatever they were doing before wasn't 475 00:24:07,080 --> 00:24:10,000 Speaker 1: gonna work in the postseason, and rather than making small 476 00:24:10,040 --> 00:24:13,680 Speaker 1: adjustments or in this case, just hoping that the addition 477 00:24:13,720 --> 00:24:15,800 Speaker 1: of Drew Holiday when it came down a crunch time 478 00:24:15,920 --> 00:24:18,639 Speaker 1: was going to be enough for them, they decided to 479 00:24:18,640 --> 00:24:22,080 Speaker 1: almost overhaul everything and they just completely lost themselves. The 480 00:24:22,480 --> 00:24:25,159 Speaker 1: one thing, And that's a pretty interesting analysis, rob G. 481 00:24:25,359 --> 00:24:27,240 Speaker 1: You went deep there on the Bucks. I did not 482 00:24:27,359 --> 00:24:30,080 Speaker 1: expect you to to have that in your bag. I'm impressed. 483 00:24:30,320 --> 00:24:33,359 Speaker 1: The one thing that the Bucks have not done is 484 00:24:33,440 --> 00:24:36,800 Speaker 1: alter their stance on allowing three pointers. Coming into this scheme. 485 00:24:37,000 --> 00:24:38,480 Speaker 1: And I know this because I wrote a column about 486 00:24:38,480 --> 00:24:41,639 Speaker 1: it for Fox Sports and and and NBA Futures. The 487 00:24:41,800 --> 00:24:46,040 Speaker 1: Bucks are twenty five in three point field goal defense. 488 00:24:46,240 --> 00:24:48,840 Speaker 1: They're just letting people shoot threes. They're saying, hey, we're 489 00:24:48,840 --> 00:24:51,080 Speaker 1: gonna protect the rim Brook Lopez and you honest, you're 490 00:24:51,080 --> 00:24:54,680 Speaker 1: not scoring on us. Inside. The problem is this is 491 00:24:54,800 --> 00:24:57,879 Speaker 1: like the greatest shooting three point season in the history 492 00:24:57,920 --> 00:25:00,720 Speaker 1: of the sport. And this is not gonna work. The 493 00:25:00,800 --> 00:25:05,320 Speaker 1: Raptors again twelve or thirty five just banging threes, Norman Powell, third, 494 00:25:05,400 --> 00:25:09,840 Speaker 1: Van Fleet. I mean, the Bucks just I don't know. 495 00:25:09,920 --> 00:25:12,239 Speaker 1: I mean, if Buddenholes are gonna get fired here, I 496 00:25:12,280 --> 00:25:15,719 Speaker 1: can't imagine they would do it this suit, right, I mean, 497 00:25:15,840 --> 00:25:18,879 Speaker 1: they dip under five hundred, maybe he gets fired. But 498 00:25:19,840 --> 00:25:22,080 Speaker 1: I mean, remember Jason Kidd was the honestest guy, and 499 00:25:22,080 --> 00:25:25,160 Speaker 1: everybody said, oh, you know, Jay Kidd man, your honest, 500 00:25:25,200 --> 00:25:26,560 Speaker 1: his toast, there's no way he's signing there. And then 501 00:25:26,560 --> 00:25:28,760 Speaker 1: Bodenholzer wins a bunch of games, just like he did 502 00:25:28,800 --> 00:25:30,760 Speaker 1: in Atlanta when he won sixty games and they got 503 00:25:31,000 --> 00:25:35,080 Speaker 1: swept broomed by Lebron. I don't know, Rob, I mean, 504 00:25:35,119 --> 00:25:38,440 Speaker 1: I don't know. The budenholder is like job in Jeopardy, 505 00:25:38,520 --> 00:25:41,760 Speaker 1: But I think the seat is definitely a little lukewarm. Right. 506 00:25:41,920 --> 00:25:43,600 Speaker 1: You can't lose five in a row with the two 507 00:25:43,640 --> 00:25:46,960 Speaker 1: time m v P and you're now sixteen and thirteen 508 00:25:47,000 --> 00:25:50,600 Speaker 1: when you had the best record in the league last year. Um, 509 00:25:51,280 --> 00:25:55,480 Speaker 1: something's gotta change. I'll tell you what I agree with you. 510 00:25:55,520 --> 00:25:57,640 Speaker 1: I think that Budenholzer most likely would be the guy 511 00:25:57,640 --> 00:25:58,880 Speaker 1: to be in the hot seat and kind of take 512 00:25:58,920 --> 00:26:01,399 Speaker 1: the fall, but the person who who should take the 513 00:26:01,440 --> 00:26:07,639 Speaker 1: fall would be honest, I haven't seen anything from him 514 00:26:07,680 --> 00:26:11,000 Speaker 1: in the last what now three years that makes me 515 00:26:11,080 --> 00:26:14,480 Speaker 1: think he's any any different of a player like he 516 00:26:14,480 --> 00:26:20,200 Speaker 1: He is an incredibly gifted physical specimen with great balance, 517 00:26:20,440 --> 00:26:22,800 Speaker 1: you know, you know that kind of thing. But in 518 00:26:22,920 --> 00:26:27,240 Speaker 1: terms of understanding the game of basketball and having skills 519 00:26:27,840 --> 00:26:32,360 Speaker 1: and you know, doing the winning plays that matter, he's 520 00:26:32,400 --> 00:26:35,879 Speaker 1: he doesn't do that like he He's I don't want 521 00:26:35,880 --> 00:26:37,520 Speaker 1: to see his one trick pony because he's much more 522 00:26:37,560 --> 00:26:40,639 Speaker 1: talented than that. But you know, with James Harden in Houston, 523 00:26:40,760 --> 00:26:42,640 Speaker 1: when was the last last time you saw James hard 524 00:26:42,640 --> 00:26:46,199 Speaker 1: instead of backpick or James Harden role screen man. Jannice 525 00:26:46,600 --> 00:26:50,200 Speaker 1: should be a devastating pick and role player and he 526 00:26:50,200 --> 00:26:54,360 Speaker 1: he doesn't do it. Janice should be with his all 527 00:26:54,400 --> 00:26:59,040 Speaker 1: of his physical gifts, an incredible on ball defender and 528 00:26:59,080 --> 00:27:01,240 Speaker 1: they don't use him that he's only a help side guy. 529 00:27:03,280 --> 00:27:05,480 Speaker 1: I mean, listen, Bucks fans are gonna come after you 530 00:27:05,520 --> 00:27:08,879 Speaker 1: for this because Joannice is putting up eleven and five. 531 00:27:09,240 --> 00:27:11,640 Speaker 1: He's top five in the league in player efficiency rating, 532 00:27:11,960 --> 00:27:15,040 Speaker 1: Like he's having a good season. But I think what 533 00:27:15,200 --> 00:27:17,840 Speaker 1: you you You hit on something with Harden. Harden in 534 00:27:17,960 --> 00:27:19,800 Speaker 1: Houston was like, oh, this guy is amazing, but he 535 00:27:19,800 --> 00:27:21,920 Speaker 1: can't win the big game, right, doesn't do the stuff 536 00:27:21,960 --> 00:27:23,920 Speaker 1: off the ball. If he's not involved in the play, 537 00:27:23,960 --> 00:27:25,520 Speaker 1: He's just gonna sit there at the three point line 538 00:27:25,520 --> 00:27:28,679 Speaker 1: and just chill looked at look at his teammates that 539 00:27:28,720 --> 00:27:31,000 Speaker 1: he had. Okay, he had Chris Paul and they made 540 00:27:31,040 --> 00:27:32,879 Speaker 1: a far run. He had Russell Westbrook and they had 541 00:27:32,880 --> 00:27:36,640 Speaker 1: the potential for a run. Um he goes to Brooklyn 542 00:27:36,880 --> 00:27:39,440 Speaker 1: and now it's like, oh, James Harden has been unlocked. 543 00:27:39,600 --> 00:27:43,520 Speaker 1: He's a k D and Kyrie. It's over who's stopping him? 544 00:27:43,560 --> 00:27:45,760 Speaker 1: And you look at the honest you're like, Okay, he's 545 00:27:45,840 --> 00:27:51,119 Speaker 1: doing this with Chris Middleton. Well ship, if his ass 546 00:27:51,200 --> 00:27:53,840 Speaker 1: was smart enough to build a super team. I mean, 547 00:27:54,320 --> 00:27:57,040 Speaker 1: what is Janice next to I don't know, Bradley Beal 548 00:27:57,760 --> 00:28:01,280 Speaker 1: and um, you know, think of some other superstar that 549 00:28:01,320 --> 00:28:03,920 Speaker 1: he could play alongside. But like, you know, be honest, 550 00:28:03,960 --> 00:28:07,399 Speaker 1: in Miami with Jimmy Butler and and Bayham or Jimmy 551 00:28:07,400 --> 00:28:10,600 Speaker 1: Butler and who and whoever? Like I think, I know 552 00:28:10,840 --> 00:28:12,919 Speaker 1: you want to blame me, honest, I think he's just 553 00:28:13,119 --> 00:28:16,080 Speaker 1: not playing next to superstars and if you put him 554 00:28:16,080 --> 00:28:18,239 Speaker 1: next to them, give him what he's already putting up. 555 00:28:18,480 --> 00:28:21,280 Speaker 1: Rob I mean maybe, honest, that's how you need to 556 00:28:21,320 --> 00:28:24,680 Speaker 1: unlock him, get him on a real team. Sorry, Chris Middleton, Well, 557 00:28:24,920 --> 00:28:27,639 Speaker 1: here's where all pushback on you. What have you seen 558 00:28:27,720 --> 00:28:30,120 Speaker 1: from Jannice that makes you think he can play any 559 00:28:30,160 --> 00:28:32,760 Speaker 1: other way than the way he plays, Because I mean 560 00:28:32,760 --> 00:28:36,520 Speaker 1: even with James Hardy made the example in Brooklyn, He's 561 00:28:36,560 --> 00:28:39,400 Speaker 1: not doing a whole lot different in Brooklyn than he 562 00:28:39,480 --> 00:28:42,760 Speaker 1: was doing in Houston. He's on the ball. Yeah, he 563 00:28:42,840 --> 00:28:44,720 Speaker 1: just has better guys around him, so that on the 564 00:28:44,720 --> 00:28:47,520 Speaker 1: times when he's not involved in a play, it's less 565 00:28:47,560 --> 00:28:50,120 Speaker 1: of a dumpster fire because Kyrie can make a player. 566 00:28:50,200 --> 00:28:53,400 Speaker 1: Katie can make a play. But with you know, so, 567 00:28:53,440 --> 00:28:55,240 Speaker 1: he's kind of he's doing the same thing. It's just 568 00:28:55,280 --> 00:28:57,560 Speaker 1: there's when he's not involved, the other guys are doing 569 00:28:57,560 --> 00:28:59,600 Speaker 1: things with Janice. I think if you put it with 570 00:28:59,640 --> 00:29:01,960 Speaker 1: Bradley Yell, if you put him with Jimmy Butler, if 571 00:29:01,960 --> 00:29:06,320 Speaker 1: you put him with whoever, Janice does what Janice does. 572 00:29:06,400 --> 00:29:10,320 Speaker 1: He's a downhill guy. He's a dunker. He's useless outside 573 00:29:10,320 --> 00:29:14,760 Speaker 1: of five ft he and and so is what is 574 00:29:14,760 --> 00:29:17,760 Speaker 1: he doing? He's not off the ball? Can you make 575 00:29:17,840 --> 00:29:21,320 Speaker 1: him Anthony Davis? He should be. I think that that's 576 00:29:21,360 --> 00:29:23,480 Speaker 1: one thing that BuNos is not doing enough is Chris Middleton, 577 00:29:23,560 --> 00:29:25,440 Speaker 1: in a very very small sample size, is one of 578 00:29:25,480 --> 00:29:29,640 Speaker 1: the best pick and roll UH distributors in basketball, like 579 00:29:29,880 --> 00:29:31,960 Speaker 1: the nine percentile or something like that, because he can 580 00:29:32,120 --> 00:29:34,480 Speaker 1: shoot himself and he can pass a little bit. But 581 00:29:34,600 --> 00:29:37,080 Speaker 1: they've decided that they're gonna go with Joannice as like 582 00:29:37,120 --> 00:29:39,880 Speaker 1: a massive point forward, and he's going to be the 583 00:29:39,880 --> 00:29:44,800 Speaker 1: guy doing everything. And that's that's just not conducive to 584 00:29:44,800 --> 00:29:47,239 Speaker 1: to winning it at at in the playoffs and right now, 585 00:29:47,320 --> 00:29:49,760 Speaker 1: unfortunately for them because they're trying to do different things 586 00:29:49,960 --> 00:29:51,800 Speaker 1: in the regular season, it's also not conducive in the 587 00:29:51,800 --> 00:29:56,400 Speaker 1: regular season. Yeah, so the Bucks got problems, the Lakers don't. Uh, 588 00:29:56,440 --> 00:29:57,960 Speaker 1: the Nets are on top of the world right now. 589 00:29:58,120 --> 00:30:00,280 Speaker 1: I mean, listen, I am not over rea thing, I 590 00:30:00,360 --> 00:30:04,160 Speaker 1: promise you. But the way that Harden is playing with 591 00:30:04,200 --> 00:30:07,800 Speaker 1: these shooters and knowing that Kevin Durant will be coming 592 00:30:07,840 --> 00:30:13,120 Speaker 1: to this group shortly. I mean, you know, lebron stopped 593 00:30:13,120 --> 00:30:16,800 Speaker 1: short of comparing them to the K D. Curry Warriors. Now, 594 00:30:16,880 --> 00:30:20,920 Speaker 1: let me ask you who's Clay in this current Nets team? 595 00:30:20,920 --> 00:30:24,360 Speaker 1: Because we know k D s k D. I think 596 00:30:24,480 --> 00:30:29,440 Speaker 1: Curry is hardened. I gotta ask you Rise, Is Curry 597 00:30:29,520 --> 00:30:34,520 Speaker 1: hardened in the Nets verse Warriors debate? Yes, And And 598 00:30:34,600 --> 00:30:37,320 Speaker 1: the thing is that I I in that comparison, I 599 00:30:37,320 --> 00:30:40,000 Speaker 1: would roll with the Warriors every time because Clay Thompson 600 00:30:40,480 --> 00:30:43,160 Speaker 1: is also a two way player and and Kyrier is not. 601 00:30:43,680 --> 00:30:46,560 Speaker 1: So that's the that's the difference I think in that group, 602 00:30:46,760 --> 00:30:50,760 Speaker 1: and the fact that the Warriors offense in itself with 603 00:30:50,800 --> 00:30:53,440 Speaker 1: all the movement the backcutting, the motion, everything that made 604 00:30:53,440 --> 00:30:56,640 Speaker 1: them so tough to stop. I mean, even without Kevin Durant, 605 00:30:56,640 --> 00:30:57,880 Speaker 1: they were type of stop and then with him it 606 00:30:57,920 --> 00:31:00,760 Speaker 1: was damn near impossible. So and I think even with 607 00:31:00,800 --> 00:31:03,240 Speaker 1: the lost last night, with the Lakers and the and 608 00:31:03,240 --> 00:31:07,520 Speaker 1: the Nets, it's not like they were running super complex offense. 609 00:31:07,600 --> 00:31:10,120 Speaker 1: It was just guys were hitting shots. And when that happens, 610 00:31:10,160 --> 00:31:12,480 Speaker 1: you know, what are you gonna do? Yeah? All right, 611 00:31:12,520 --> 00:31:14,600 Speaker 1: Well that'll do it for the week. It's been a 612 00:31:14,600 --> 00:31:17,960 Speaker 1: fun one. Big week ahead next week and maybe we'll 613 00:31:17,960 --> 00:31:21,240 Speaker 1: get another huge NFL move. I will be posting more 614 00:31:21,280 --> 00:31:25,080 Speaker 1: college basketball picks on the I G Stories. I did 615 00:31:25,120 --> 00:31:27,800 Speaker 1: that a little bit this week. It's tough to give 616 00:31:27,840 --> 00:31:30,680 Speaker 1: them out on the podcast because the lines uh don't 617 00:31:30,720 --> 00:31:33,280 Speaker 1: come out, are not out as soon as we record, 618 00:31:33,320 --> 00:31:36,160 Speaker 1: they start to trickle them out given COVID. So I 619 00:31:36,160 --> 00:31:37,440 Speaker 1: know a lot of you guys are clamoring for a 620 00:31:37,480 --> 00:31:41,280 Speaker 1: best bet. We'll get there, trust me, um. Enjoy the weekend, 621 00:31:41,400 --> 00:31:42,600 Speaker 1: see you Monday.