WEBVTT - Weirdhouse Cinema: Demonwarp 0:00:02.440 --> 0:00:09.760 Welcome to Stuff to Blow Your Mind, a production of iHeartRadio. 0:00:13.200 --> 0:00:15.160 Hey you welcome to Weird House Cinema. 0:00:15.200 --> 0:00:17.800 This is Rob Lamb and this is Joe McCormick. 0:00:18.160 --> 0:00:20.960 And today on Weird House Cinema, we returned to one 0:00:20.960 --> 0:00:25.360 of our favorite subgenres, a good old fashioned squatch movie. 0:00:25.760 --> 0:00:28.000 It's been a while, though. The last time we discussed 0:00:28.040 --> 0:00:32.040 a Bigfoot or Sasquatch film was Boggy Creek two back 0:00:32.040 --> 0:00:35.200 in twenty twenty, so we're long overdue for a little 0:00:35.200 --> 0:00:40.000 Sasquatch action. We're gonna be discussing nineteen eighty eight's Demon Warp, 0:00:40.479 --> 0:00:44.120 which absolutely does feature a Sasquatch on the rampage in 0:00:44.159 --> 0:00:48.720 southern California, but with some delirious added twists and turns 0:00:48.760 --> 0:00:49.240 as well. 0:00:50.000 --> 0:00:53.199 Is the Sasquatch movie one of our favorite subgenres. 0:00:53.280 --> 0:00:54.680 I feel like it is for me. 0:00:54.800 --> 0:00:58.360 I think it is in theory, if not in practice. 0:00:58.960 --> 0:01:00.920 It is definitely one of those where if someone asked 0:01:00.920 --> 0:01:03.360 me on the street, hey, you like Bigfoot movies? Yeah, 0:01:03.360 --> 0:01:05.440 I love Bigfoot movies. And then if they were to 0:01:05.480 --> 0:01:07.800 challenge me and say give me your top five, I 0:01:07.880 --> 0:01:09.200 might be able to give you a top two. 0:01:09.800 --> 0:01:14.840 Yeah, you know, Boggy Creek. It's pretty gross, But I 0:01:14.840 --> 0:01:16.759 do kind of love A Night of the Demon, and 0:01:16.800 --> 0:01:20.000 I have fond memories of Shriek and the Mutilated, but 0:01:20.040 --> 0:01:22.759 I haven't seen it in a while. But we were 0:01:22.760 --> 0:01:26.160 discussing off Mike that a lot of sasquatch movies are 0:01:26.200 --> 0:01:29.319 just nastier than you remember or than you would expect 0:01:29.400 --> 0:01:31.920 them to be. Like, it seems like it would almost 0:01:31.920 --> 0:01:36.920 seem to be a relatively wholesome subgenre of horror. But yeah, 0:01:36.959 --> 0:01:39.679 a lot of squatch movies are just gross, dude. 0:01:39.920 --> 0:01:42.679 As we've discussed on the show before, at least back 0:01:42.720 --> 0:01:45.560 in the Boggy Creek days, back in twenty twenty, you 0:01:45.640 --> 0:01:49.640 basically have two sorts of cinematic squatch movies. You have 0:01:49.720 --> 0:01:52.640 films about the savage squatch, and you have films about 0:01:52.680 --> 0:01:57.120 the noble squatch. One kills you, one teaches you. One 0:01:57.160 --> 0:01:59.640 is a terrorizing beast, the other is a wise man 0:01:59.680 --> 0:02:03.880 of the One connects with our own inner and outer savagery, 0:02:04.000 --> 0:02:07.080 our fear of the wilds. The other represents our high 0:02:07.160 --> 0:02:10.080 regard for the holy mystery of nature and our attitudes 0:02:10.080 --> 0:02:14.280 concerning the encroachment of the modern world on the natural world, 0:02:14.639 --> 0:02:17.959 and obviously these two can overlap or one can turn 0:02:17.960 --> 0:02:21.520 out to be the other. But it's interesting to reflect 0:02:21.560 --> 0:02:23.640 on these because I do think that by and large, 0:02:23.720 --> 0:02:25.679 most films are going to fall into one category or 0:02:25.720 --> 0:02:29.520 the other, like Harry and the Henderson's Noble Squatch obviously 0:02:30.240 --> 0:02:33.880 Boggy Creek two definitely a noble squatch film, and today 0:02:33.880 --> 0:02:36.680 we're going to balance the scales with a savage squatch film, 0:02:36.680 --> 0:02:40.080 which is also probably interesting to think about because I 0:02:40.160 --> 0:02:44.880 feel like in the contemporary zeitgeist, in a world speaking 0:02:44.919 --> 0:02:47.960 of at least of the US here in the United States, 0:02:48.000 --> 0:02:51.560 that seems to be more and more obsessed with Bigfoot, 0:02:51.840 --> 0:02:55.400 with sasquatch. I see it, you see it, I'm bumper stickers. 0:02:55.440 --> 0:02:58.639 You see more roadside attractions kind of these kinds of 0:02:58.680 --> 0:03:03.079 cryptids than ever before. Cutes the appreciation, cutes the appreciation, 0:03:03.400 --> 0:03:07.360 and I think maybe a little a little woo woo 0:03:07.639 --> 0:03:11.880 kind of almost you know, occultist sensibility kind of. I 0:03:11.880 --> 0:03:14.440 think very much the idea of the noble squatch being 0:03:14.560 --> 0:03:17.679 the main focus, the idea that on some level I'm 0:03:17.680 --> 0:03:20.560 connecting with some sort of a holy spirit of the wild, 0:03:21.000 --> 0:03:22.959 not a savage monster that wants to beat down my 0:03:23.080 --> 0:03:25.240 door and kill a family member. 0:03:25.520 --> 0:03:27.959 This was very much my experience. Did I tell you 0:03:27.960 --> 0:03:31.799 about the experience that we had at the Bigfoot Museum 0:03:31.919 --> 0:03:36.080 in North Georgia where we overheard a woman there giving 0:03:36.120 --> 0:03:38.680 a report to the curator at the museum about her 0:03:38.720 --> 0:03:43.680 own encounter. It was very much in the noble squatch zone. 0:03:44.080 --> 0:03:47.240 She was talking about how in woods near where she lived. 0:03:47.600 --> 0:03:49.880 I don't want to give away any identifying detail, but 0:03:50.720 --> 0:03:54.000 I remember part of the story was that she was 0:03:54.200 --> 0:03:58.720 upset because there were local teenagers, hooligan's whoever, who had 0:03:58.760 --> 0:04:02.040 been riding a TV through his woods and that's his 0:04:02.160 --> 0:04:05.119 sacred place and they were disrespecting it. 0:04:06.120 --> 0:04:09.600 I mean, really, it seems troubled hacan ideas here, right, yeah, 0:04:09.840 --> 0:04:14.720 Forest Guardian, Yeah, so yeah, it's it's interesting to take 0:04:14.760 --> 0:04:17.599 that and then can consider a film like nineteen eighties 0:04:17.680 --> 0:04:21.839 Night of the Demon, which is another Southern California savage 0:04:21.839 --> 0:04:25.039 squatch film, but like you said, a much nastier one. 0:04:25.880 --> 0:04:29.040 Demon War by comparison, is pretty tame, though still features 0:04:29.040 --> 0:04:32.920 a lot of slasher movie violence and also at least 0:04:32.960 --> 0:04:34.960 top only slasher movie nudity. 0:04:36.040 --> 0:04:38.039 Yeah, I know what you're saying it is kind of 0:04:38.080 --> 0:04:41.480 weird to think about this as a less nasty film 0:04:41.480 --> 0:04:44.240 because it still has a lot of It has a 0:04:44.240 --> 0:04:47.560 lot of violence and gore effects, but it's certainly less 0:04:47.640 --> 0:04:51.320 nasty than the Sasquatch films, which classify Bigfoot as like 0:04:51.360 --> 0:04:54.520 a sex criminal of the woods, which is the that's 0:04:54.520 --> 0:04:55.440 always kind of a bummer. 0:04:55.520 --> 0:04:58.359 Yeah, there's none of that in Demon Warp. Our Squatch 0:04:58.520 --> 0:05:01.760 is savage, but he has a has a different agenda 0:05:01.800 --> 0:05:02.599 in mind. 0:05:02.960 --> 0:05:05.600 Now, there's another thing we should flag at the beginning, 0:05:05.800 --> 0:05:08.479 about a way to forget what this is called. Not 0:05:08.560 --> 0:05:10.800 Knight of the Demon, this is Demon Warp. Two different 0:05:10.800 --> 0:05:13.080 war Demon Squatch, Demon Warp. 0:05:13.160 --> 0:05:15.120 Yeah, one word, by the way, Demon Warp. 0:05:15.360 --> 0:05:20.599 Interrogate the title later. But one thing I like about 0:05:20.640 --> 0:05:25.400 Demon Warp is that I detect in it a failure 0:05:25.520 --> 0:05:29.440 that I myself am prone to in creative work, which 0:05:29.520 --> 0:05:33.920 is a failure to narrow the scope of the project 0:05:34.480 --> 0:05:38.120 commensurate with the actual limitations on what can be achieved. 0:05:38.880 --> 0:05:41.000 Do you ever have this problem, Rob, Like you're writing 0:05:41.040 --> 0:05:43.160 a story and you just want to bring in too 0:05:43.240 --> 0:05:45.960 many things really for the amount of space or time 0:05:46.040 --> 0:05:46.400 you have. 0:05:47.279 --> 0:05:51.000 Yeah, it'll be because I think sometimes you have as inspiration, 0:05:51.240 --> 0:05:55.960 a kind of kaleidoscope flash of ideas, and then once 0:05:55.960 --> 0:05:59.560 you try putting that on paper or whatever your medium 0:05:59.600 --> 0:06:01.920 might be, you might run into problems and realize, well, 0:06:01.920 --> 0:06:04.000 maybe this isn't the most economic thing. I can't fit 0:06:04.040 --> 0:06:06.040 all of it in. Yeah, and I do think there's 0:06:06.040 --> 0:06:08.920 something going on here, very similar with Demon Warp. 0:06:09.040 --> 0:06:11.760 Yeah, I need to pick a subset of this, these 0:06:11.800 --> 0:06:13.919 things and focus on them. But Demon Warp says, no, 0:06:14.560 --> 0:06:18.400 I reject that. I will do it all, and I 0:06:18.440 --> 0:06:20.560 won't necessarily do it all in a way that's very 0:06:20.600 --> 0:06:23.040 developed or thought through, but I'm going to do it 0:06:23.080 --> 0:06:25.880 all in some way or another, and I admire the 0:06:25.920 --> 0:06:30.479 audacity there. So spoiler's incoming this episode we are going 0:06:30.520 --> 0:06:35.040 to The movie does have major twists and surprises in it, 0:06:35.080 --> 0:06:37.719 and we're about to spoil them. So warning, if you 0:06:37.720 --> 0:06:39.560 want to go into the movie without knowing anything, you 0:06:39.560 --> 0:06:43.000 should stop here go check it out. But you might assume, 0:06:43.680 --> 0:06:47.080 based on the marketing for the film that this is 0:06:47.279 --> 0:06:50.320 just another bigfoot horror movie, but the Bigfoot angle is 0:06:50.360 --> 0:06:54.359 really only about sixty percent of the film. This is 0:06:54.400 --> 0:06:58.160 also surprisingly to varying degrees. I took some notes here. 0:06:58.560 --> 0:07:02.760 It's an alien invasion movie. It is a zombie movie, 0:07:02.760 --> 0:07:06.160 like a shambling undead film. It is sort of a 0:07:06.200 --> 0:07:10.840 slasher movie. It is a mind control body possession movie. 0:07:11.360 --> 0:07:15.400 It is a religious cult thriller with human sacrifice. It 0:07:15.560 --> 0:07:19.080 is a creature effects showcase. And it is a vehicle 0:07:19.280 --> 0:07:24.640 on which to deliver a huge amount of narratively implausible nudity. 0:07:25.720 --> 0:07:27.440 Yeah, yeah, I think that's all right. And then at 0:07:27.480 --> 0:07:30.280 the same time, nobody's gonna leave this picture saying, man, 0:07:30.320 --> 0:07:32.160 I thought this was a sad squatch movie, which there 0:07:32.200 --> 0:07:35.080 is more squatch. There's a line of squatch. Yeah, and 0:07:35.120 --> 0:07:35.559 they don't. 0:07:35.600 --> 0:07:36.720 They don't delay it. 0:07:36.720 --> 0:07:36.960 It does. 0:07:37.080 --> 0:07:38.800 They don't make you wait to the end to see it. 0:07:39.200 --> 0:07:42.280 And they don't they're not shy about squatch, like hiding 0:07:42.360 --> 0:07:45.160 in behind trees and stuff. You see full squatch in 0:07:45.280 --> 0:07:47.240 like the second scene where he appears. 0:07:47.600 --> 0:07:50.440 Yeah, the squatch looks great. We see a lot of it. 0:07:50.800 --> 0:07:53.360 This I think is going to tie into its effects 0:07:53.400 --> 0:07:58.760 world origins, and most of the films them just broad daylight. Yeah, 0:07:58.880 --> 0:08:03.920 Like we've seen this before with other Southern California rural 0:08:04.000 --> 0:08:07.040 horror sci fi films. They all seem to be filmed 0:08:07.520 --> 0:08:10.560 around two pm, maybe one pm in the afternoon, you know, 0:08:11.760 --> 0:08:16.240 where I'm less concerned about the otherworldly dangers at play, 0:08:16.240 --> 0:08:18.880 and I'm more concerned if everyone's getting enough water to drink, 0:08:18.920 --> 0:08:20.840 because it looks kind of hot, dry. 0:08:21.280 --> 0:08:25.520 Yeah, very very familiar looking woods. If you've watched low 0:08:25.560 --> 0:08:28.520 budget movies before, you feel like, I've seen these woods. 0:08:28.560 --> 0:08:30.000 I've seen this road. 0:08:30.720 --> 0:08:32.400 I've seen this cave. Yeah. 0:08:32.760 --> 0:08:35.720 Wasn't this in a two thousand and four made for 0:08:35.880 --> 0:08:38.360 the Sci Fi Channel movie I watched? Yep, it was 0:08:38.400 --> 0:08:39.840 probably in five or six of those. 0:08:40.160 --> 0:08:43.800 I would assume sometimes these these B movie sci fi 0:08:43.840 --> 0:08:46.360 productions just run into each other in these woods, you know, 0:08:46.800 --> 0:08:49.960 and they're like, oh, this is a different monster from 0:08:50.000 --> 0:08:52.480 a different film. Well keep rolling anyway. 0:08:53.000 --> 0:08:56.640 So, despite the fact that I think it only loosely 0:08:56.800 --> 0:08:59.240 relates to the plot, it sort of does. But I 0:08:59.240 --> 0:09:01.280 don't know you can render a judgment on it in 0:09:01.320 --> 0:09:05.600 a moment. I think the kitchen sink energy of Demon 0:09:05.679 --> 0:09:08.720 Warp is pretty well captured in the tagline from a 0:09:08.800 --> 0:09:11.360 vintage poster that you sent me, or maybe not poster. 0:09:11.400 --> 0:09:13.959 I think this may have actually been VHS box art. 0:09:14.880 --> 0:09:18.120 Yeah, The theatrical poster is really good. We'll come back 0:09:18.160 --> 0:09:20.800 to that in a minute. But the VHS box art 0:09:20.840 --> 0:09:22.120 is pretty pretty goofy. 0:09:22.280 --> 0:09:25.679 So here's the text on it. It says somewhere between 0:09:25.840 --> 0:09:30.439 light and shadow, ancient fear, future shock, the living and 0:09:30.600 --> 0:09:34.160 the undead lies the realm of Demon Warp. 0:09:35.360 --> 0:09:38.920 Yeah, I mean mentioning future shock in there. It's very 0:09:38.920 --> 0:09:43.920 little future in this movie, but it does. You are right, 0:09:44.000 --> 0:09:47.160 This does capture a sense of what's going on here. 0:09:47.400 --> 0:09:50.200 Also, why are there tombstones on this Do you see 0:09:50.200 --> 0:09:52.840 the tombstones? Is there a braveyard in the movie? 0:09:53.160 --> 0:09:55.800 No, no, but but there, Yeah, it sure is on 0:09:55.840 --> 0:09:59.800 this box art. Why is George Kennedy's head floating like 0:09:59.840 --> 0:10:04.600 a glowing like sun sphere in the middle of the poster. 0:10:04.760 --> 0:10:05.240 I don't know. 0:10:05.360 --> 0:10:08.120 It would suggest he is like Clarence the Angel in 0:10:08.200 --> 0:10:11.640 this movie, a heavenly being looking down on the proceedings below. 0:10:11.720 --> 0:10:14.319 It's the poster makes it look like it's going to 0:10:14.360 --> 0:10:17.960 be about a reptile man who attacks a cemetery full 0:10:18.000 --> 0:10:22.120 of zombies, while George Kennedy the Angel is the heavenly 0:10:22.200 --> 0:10:23.720 guardian of teen Wolf. 0:10:24.080 --> 0:10:29.440 Yeah. Yeah, so yeah, they try to do a lot 0:10:29.480 --> 0:10:31.640 of things in Demon Warp. But you know, that's why 0:10:31.679 --> 0:10:34.400 we're talking about it because it is a it is 0:10:34.440 --> 0:10:37.720 a huge swing, and it's a miss in many ways. 0:10:37.800 --> 0:10:40.400 But oh man, the energy, the audacity. 0:10:40.440 --> 0:10:42.839 As you said, now, I know you wanted to come 0:10:42.880 --> 0:10:46.320 back to the title demon Warp. Are you where how 0:10:46.360 --> 0:10:48.079 they got there? Where that name came from. 0:10:48.360 --> 0:10:50.640 They might have touched on it in like some part 0:10:50.640 --> 0:10:53.080 of the commentary track that I didn't listen to, but 0:10:54.120 --> 0:10:57.240 my guess is that they allude to this being demon 0:10:57.320 --> 0:11:00.840 Wood or demon Woods, I believe, And it sounds to 0:11:00.880 --> 0:11:02.839 me like someone was like, let's call it demon Woods, 0:11:02.840 --> 0:11:04.880 and they were like, no, demon Warp. We want to 0:11:04.880 --> 0:11:06.960 get that sci fi element into the title. 0:11:07.840 --> 0:11:11.680 I was wondering if it could be that the warp 0:11:11.960 --> 0:11:16.080 refers to the way, again spoilers for the ending, how 0:11:16.320 --> 0:11:21.120 human bodies are in fact being warped by alien technology 0:11:21.160 --> 0:11:23.000 to become bigfoot bodies. 0:11:23.520 --> 0:11:26.040 I think that's as good as we're going to get. Okay, 0:11:26.320 --> 0:11:27.120 I think that works. 0:11:27.200 --> 0:11:30.680 Yeah, Well, that leads right into if I had to 0:11:30.840 --> 0:11:33.640 do an elevator pitch for the movie or a little tagline, 0:11:34.080 --> 0:11:36.479 it's got to be Invasion of the body Squatchers. 0:11:36.640 --> 0:11:40.600 That's pretty good. I can't beat that, all right. Well, 0:11:40.600 --> 0:11:42.319 at this point you might be wondering, hey, where can 0:11:42.360 --> 0:11:45.960 I watch this fascinating sounding picture? Where can I watch 0:11:46.040 --> 0:11:51.400 Demon Warp? One word? Well, it was very recently released 0:11:51.480 --> 0:11:54.480 on Blu Ray by Vinegar Syndrome with a whole load 0:11:54.520 --> 0:11:57.439 of extras, newly scanned and restored in four K from 0:11:57.480 --> 0:12:02.200 its thirty five milimeter original camer net negative. I rented 0:12:02.240 --> 0:12:05.320 this one from Atlanta's own video drome. Here's my rental disc, 0:12:05.760 --> 0:12:07.680 and Joe, I believe you pick you pick up a 0:12:07.679 --> 0:12:09.040 copy of this one, right? I did. 0:12:09.080 --> 0:12:12.200 It took a while to arrive, and so I didn't 0:12:12.360 --> 0:12:15.920 the first time I tried to watch the movie. We 0:12:15.920 --> 0:12:19.520 were going to record it this past Monday, and over 0:12:19.559 --> 0:12:21.520 the weekend, I'm waiting for my disc to come in 0:12:21.600 --> 0:12:23.760 and it's not coming in. The delivery date just keeps 0:12:23.760 --> 0:12:26.839 getting pushed back, and I'm like, where is my Squatch movie? 0:12:26.880 --> 0:12:30.600 I've got to watch this. So I was aware that 0:12:30.640 --> 0:12:33.000 there's a YouTube rip out there, and I was like, well, 0:12:33.000 --> 0:12:35.000 I'll just have to watch that, you know, to get 0:12:35.040 --> 0:12:38.560 through so we can record the movie. But folks, this 0:12:38.720 --> 0:12:41.560 is one of the lowest res YouTube rips i've ever seen. 0:12:41.800 --> 0:12:47.240 The pixels were gargantuan, and so I did. For example, 0:12:47.240 --> 0:12:49.880 in the opening scene, there is a spaceship, an alien 0:12:49.920 --> 0:12:53.200 spaceship that crashes on Earth, and in the scene where 0:12:53.200 --> 0:12:55.400 a character is approaching it, I did not realize it 0:12:55.440 --> 0:12:58.360 was a spaceship because it just looks like a boulder. 0:12:58.800 --> 0:13:01.880 Yeah, so you're missing vital detail here, not just like 0:13:01.960 --> 0:13:04.520 I wish I could see that that monster mask in 0:13:04.559 --> 0:13:06.280 a little more detail, right. 0:13:06.160 --> 0:13:08.560 Not just like that, like you are unable to tell 0:13:08.600 --> 0:13:11.959 who's talking or whatever, because because the rip is so. 0:13:12.000 --> 0:13:14.599 Bad, I think for a long time, even if you 0:13:14.640 --> 0:13:17.120 had access to VHS or something, I think that the 0:13:17.160 --> 0:13:19.160 copies of Demon Warp were just not that good. 0:13:19.440 --> 0:13:22.720 Yeah. So anyway, so this was I was afraid I 0:13:22.760 --> 0:13:24.120 was going to have to go with this very low 0:13:24.200 --> 0:13:27.880 quality version, but we put off recording folks. We delayed 0:13:27.880 --> 0:13:29.680 it just so that I could get the disc and 0:13:29.800 --> 0:13:32.320 watch it as it's meant to be seen. So I 0:13:32.360 --> 0:13:36.640 watched it in four K, and it's gorgeous. It's a excellent, gorgeous, 0:13:37.679 --> 0:13:45.920 cheaply made but still beautiful today. 0:13:49.120 --> 0:13:52.120 All right, well, let's get into the folks behind this picture, 0:13:52.679 --> 0:13:56.920 starting with the director. It's directed by Emmitt Alston. I'm 0:13:56.960 --> 0:13:58.960 not really sure how old this guy is, but I 0:13:58.960 --> 0:14:01.240 think he's still with us based on his participation in 0:14:01.280 --> 0:14:05.959 the extras for the film. American director perhaps best remembered, 0:14:06.320 --> 0:14:09.120 or at least up until now, for the nineteen eighty 0:14:09.120 --> 0:14:12.880 slasher New Year's Evil. It's like a New Year's ev 0:14:12.920 --> 0:14:15.400 horror movie. So you know, you've got to take note 0:14:15.400 --> 0:14:18.160 of all the different holidays that are covered. Outside of 0:14:18.200 --> 0:14:21.320 Demon War, most of his remaining credits are just Eighties 0:14:21.360 --> 0:14:24.520 action schlock. So there's eighty seven's Tiger Shark. There's the 0:14:24.600 --> 0:14:27.680 nineteen eighty five ninja film Nine Deaths of the Ninja, 0:14:28.080 --> 0:14:31.480 but it does have a show Kasugi in it. Then 0:14:31.520 --> 0:14:33.760 he also did eighty eight Fours of the Ninja. No 0:14:33.840 --> 0:14:36.640 Kasugi in that one, and then ninety three's Little Ninja's 0:14:36.720 --> 0:14:37.960 also no Kasugi. 0:14:38.240 --> 0:14:41.600 Wait Little Ninja. Oh no wait, I'm thinking of Three Ninjas. 0:14:41.880 --> 0:14:43.040 He didn't do Three Ninjas. 0:14:43.080 --> 0:14:45.400 No no, there are a few other like kid based 0:14:45.520 --> 0:14:49.320 ninja films that have nothing to do with this particular picture. Yeah, Okay, 0:14:50.520 --> 0:14:52.080 Like I say, I think most people are going to 0:14:52.160 --> 0:14:54.960 know him for Demon War or New Year's Evil. 0:14:55.280 --> 0:14:57.560 Now, Rob, I wonder if you agree with me here. 0:14:57.600 --> 0:15:00.160 I don't know if it was just a cinematic as 0:15:00.280 --> 0:15:03.640 cibo effect because I knew the name we're about to 0:15:03.680 --> 0:15:07.480 discuss was associated with this film, But I could not 0:15:07.680 --> 0:15:13.520 help but keep feeling some shared DNA between this movie 0:15:13.760 --> 0:15:16.960 and a couple of other movies we've watched, one of 0:15:16.960 --> 0:15:20.560 which is Friday the Thirteenth, Part seven, the one with 0:15:20.720 --> 0:15:25.280 the psychic girl in it, and another is The Dungeon Master, 0:15:25.560 --> 0:15:28.440 the sort of Charles Band his own film we saw 0:15:28.480 --> 0:15:30.960 that was that turned out to be an anthology film 0:15:31.200 --> 0:15:36.920 that was basically a creature effects workshop showcase. And both 0:15:36.960 --> 0:15:41.560 of those movies are associated with a guy named John Carl. 0:15:41.680 --> 0:15:44.040 I think his name is pronounced bee Cler. It looks 0:15:44.080 --> 0:15:47.080 like it's spelled buler b u e c h l 0:15:47.120 --> 0:15:51.360 e R. Did you get that same feeling, feel that 0:15:50.920 --> 0:15:53.080 that energy coursing through it? 0:15:53.760 --> 0:15:57.880 Yes, especially with the creature designs, because in the ultimate 0:15:57.880 --> 0:16:00.600 picture here he has a story credit and he built 0:16:00.640 --> 0:16:03.960 the creatures, And if you've seen enough of Beekler's work, 0:16:04.400 --> 0:16:06.920 you can kind of recognize there's something about it. I 0:16:06.920 --> 0:16:10.080 don't know, you can almost see him in the monster designs, 0:16:10.120 --> 0:16:16.800 you know, a distinctive monster design style. And I can 0:16:16.840 --> 0:16:19.160 also see these other connections for drawing here on here. 0:16:19.200 --> 0:16:21.960 But then again, I like, you went into it knowing 0:16:22.040 --> 0:16:24.160 that his DNA would be in there somewhere. 0:16:23.880 --> 0:16:25.600 Right, Like I said, I knew as well. So I 0:16:26.240 --> 0:16:28.160 maybe I'm not as perceptive as I think I am, 0:16:28.200 --> 0:16:31.200 but I felt like I could detect it, not just 0:16:31.400 --> 0:16:35.320 in the very distinctive puppet design, like the alien we 0:16:35.360 --> 0:16:36.800 get to at the end of this movie is just 0:16:36.920 --> 0:16:41.680 pure this guy, but like it looks like the creature 0:16:41.720 --> 0:16:46.000 that he created for the Dungeon Master. But it's not 0:16:46.120 --> 0:16:49.400 just that. It's something about the story structure too. Feels 0:16:49.440 --> 0:16:52.960 like Friday Part seven, the way that about a third 0:16:53.000 --> 0:16:56.520 of the way through the movie, certain random characters that 0:16:56.600 --> 0:17:00.280 have not been mentioned before just show up one during 0:17:00.320 --> 0:17:03.080 in the woods to increase the body count, almost like 0:17:03.160 --> 0:17:06.760 a third of the way through the script anxiety of like, ooh, 0:17:06.800 --> 0:17:08.280 we need to get some more people in here, so 0:17:08.560 --> 0:17:12.880 here are some campers. Yeah that it just feels like him. 0:17:13.480 --> 0:17:17.880 Yeah, yeah, absolutely, I think that's spot on. Yeah. John 0:17:17.960 --> 0:17:21.520 Carl Biechler, who lived nineteen fifty two through twenty nineteen, 0:17:21.800 --> 0:17:24.959 he was a practical special effects and makeup really legend 0:17:25.320 --> 0:17:27.280 did a lot of great work. He's come up on 0:17:27.280 --> 0:17:29.680 the show before because he did special effects on eighty 0:17:29.720 --> 0:17:33.040 six's The Eliminators as well as Terror Vision from the 0:17:33.080 --> 0:17:37.679 same year, eighty nine's Arena. Yeah, something about I don't know, 0:17:38.240 --> 0:17:41.320 I'd really have to like look at the specific character designs, 0:17:41.320 --> 0:17:43.680 but there's something about, like the way the skulls are shaped, 0:17:43.760 --> 0:17:47.480 the kind of monsters he drew and then created in 0:17:47.600 --> 0:17:48.440 three D. 0:17:48.920 --> 0:17:53.200 He's got a little goblin heart. It's just the goblininesses 0:17:54.320 --> 0:17:56.960 coming through and everything. Even in the bigger beings, they 0:17:57.000 --> 0:18:01.639 have some inherent little kind of gobliny critics to them. 0:18:01.040 --> 0:18:06.240 M yeah, yeah, absolutely. His effects work include such cult 0:18:06.240 --> 0:18:10.240 favorites as re Animator, Tammy and the t Rex and Goolies. 0:18:11.359 --> 0:18:13.640 We mentioned him in our episode on Dungeon Master because 0:18:13.640 --> 0:18:16.640 I believe he directed one of the segments on there, yeah, 0:18:17.800 --> 0:18:20.520 or the wrap around material, so he did some directing 0:18:20.560 --> 0:18:23.760 on it, and then he also helmed the likes of 0:18:23.880 --> 0:18:28.800 eighty six's Troll, eighty seven's Cellar Dweller, eighty eight's Friday 0:18:28.840 --> 0:18:32.040 the Thirteenth Part seven, The New Blood. You mentioned it already, 0:18:32.040 --> 0:18:35.240 but you know, arguably one of the best Fridays and 0:18:35.560 --> 0:18:39.680 terrific Jason makeup in that one. Agreed. He also directed 0:18:39.760 --> 0:18:43.760 nineteen nineties Gooleies Three Goolies Go to College that has 0:18:43.840 --> 0:18:47.560 Kevin McCarthy in it. I believe he plays a professor. 0:18:47.920 --> 0:18:49.919 I did just want to briefly say I agree that 0:18:49.960 --> 0:18:53.159 Friday Part seven has the most enjoyable makeup effects of 0:18:53.240 --> 0:18:58.000 the series. I think it has the best undead Jason design, 0:18:58.160 --> 0:19:01.320 and it also just has some innerting human villains. Like 0:19:01.359 --> 0:19:04.840 it's not a well written movie, but somehow, despite being 0:19:05.640 --> 0:19:10.160 poorly written, it has great writing elements, like its villains 0:19:10.200 --> 0:19:14.719 are just so like it's got this evil psychiatrist character 0:19:14.800 --> 0:19:18.520 played by Terry Kaiser who's hilarious, and it's just a 0:19:18.560 --> 0:19:19.479 it's a fun ride. 0:19:21.040 --> 0:19:25.080 So on this one, Beekler has the story credit and 0:19:25.160 --> 0:19:28.639 apparently wrote an initial screenplay and originally intended to direct 0:19:28.640 --> 0:19:33.119 it himself. But you know, clearly we're mentioning these are 0:19:33.200 --> 0:19:35.439 key years for Beekler, and you know he was probably 0:19:35.440 --> 0:19:37.160 working on one of these other projects at the time 0:19:37.680 --> 0:19:40.159 and those took off, this one got left behind. But 0:19:40.160 --> 0:19:42.880 there was already like money tied up in the project. 0:19:42.880 --> 0:19:45.119 There were already you know, some sort of production put together, 0:19:45.240 --> 0:19:47.760 so other folks came on. We'll get to those of 0:19:47.840 --> 0:19:50.720 them in just a second. You know, additional rewrites of 0:19:50.760 --> 0:19:55.960 the screenplay and his his monsters designs also remained in 0:19:56.000 --> 0:19:58.840 the film, and some of these effects and costumes that 0:19:58.880 --> 0:20:01.480 he'd already worked on. Apparently there was also some sort 0:20:01.520 --> 0:20:04.159 of like an Aztec mummy and maybe a tentacle monster 0:20:05.440 --> 0:20:08.520 based This is based on some of the interviews and 0:20:09.200 --> 0:20:12.720 extras on the Vinegar Syndrome disc that were not used 0:20:12.720 --> 0:20:15.320 in the final picture. But we definitely get the sasquatch 0:20:15.440 --> 0:20:17.359 and the alien creature from the end of the end 0:20:17.359 --> 0:20:19.760 of the film. Those are Beechler all the way. What 0:20:19.760 --> 0:20:23.160 about the zombies, I don't know that he did any 0:20:23.200 --> 0:20:25.720 of the zombie effects. The zombies look great too, but 0:20:25.800 --> 0:20:28.879 I think that's other effects folk that contributed to that. 0:20:28.920 --> 0:20:30.760 I could be wrong, but I don't think those are Beeler. 0:20:31.160 --> 0:20:32.960 It's a bummer we didn't see the other things. I 0:20:33.040 --> 0:20:34.360 want to see that mummy. 0:20:34.560 --> 0:20:36.679 Yeah, yeah, I think it was a mummy. It definitely 0:20:36.720 --> 0:20:41.040 they mean someone mentioned a tentacle monster. All right. Getting 0:20:41.080 --> 0:20:43.600 to the writers, Well, the main one. There are two 0:20:44.359 --> 0:20:48.840 gentlemen that are credited. There's Jim Burt Geese and then 0:20:48.840 --> 0:20:52.760 there's a guy by the name of Bruce Akayama. Bruce 0:20:52.800 --> 0:20:57.520 Akayama I think only has this one credit. Bert GE's 0:20:58.040 --> 0:21:01.919 his only other two writing credits are episodes of the 0:21:01.920 --> 0:21:06.800 animated series JC and Wield Warriors or JAC and the 0:21:06.800 --> 0:21:09.640 Wield Warriors and Challenge of the Gobots. I think these 0:21:09.680 --> 0:21:13.400 were like two different Transformers rip offs from around eighty five. 0:21:14.160 --> 0:21:15.439 I could be wrong in that. I don't want to 0:21:15.480 --> 0:21:19.119 mischaracterize mid eighties cartoons, but I think that's the case. 0:21:20.600 --> 0:21:24.120 But yeah, he's interviewed on the Vinegar Syndrome disc and 0:21:24.160 --> 0:21:26.960 he talks about like basically, he and Bruce Akiyama were 0:21:26.960 --> 0:21:29.359 fanboys who jumped at the chance to work on a 0:21:29.359 --> 0:21:32.040 script like this, and you know, they had the task 0:21:32.080 --> 0:21:34.880 of taking this pre existing Beakler script and cleaning it up, 0:21:35.880 --> 0:21:39.560 believe it or not, making it a little more cohesive, 0:21:40.320 --> 0:21:44.080 like making characters show up for reasons when before they 0:21:44.119 --> 0:21:47.280 didn't have any reason to show up, and in general 0:21:47.480 --> 0:21:49.240 in general, getting it into shooting shape. 0:21:49.320 --> 0:21:51.080 This is a script where I feel like I can 0:21:51.240 --> 0:21:55.080 detect the different layers of revision or drafting in it, 0:21:55.160 --> 0:21:57.600 do you know what I'm saying. Yeah, Like, there's one 0:21:57.720 --> 0:22:01.679 scene that seems to happen twice. Yeah, the scene where 0:22:01.960 --> 0:22:06.360 the characters meet George Kennedy's character has some very similar elements. 0:22:06.359 --> 0:22:09.040 It almost feels like it got moved and then edited, 0:22:09.119 --> 0:22:10.640 but they didn't take out the other one. 0:22:11.640 --> 0:22:14.720 Yeah. One of the things that it was really interesting 0:22:14.800 --> 0:22:18.600 in the Birche's interview is that he's talking about like 0:22:18.680 --> 0:22:21.399 just the physical labor of rewriting the script. And this 0:22:21.440 --> 0:22:23.399 is something so easy to take for granted. You and 0:22:23.440 --> 0:22:27.119 I have both done you know, screenplay scripting work before, 0:22:27.200 --> 0:22:30.040 and of course, you know, we have the glorious wonders 0:22:30.080 --> 0:22:34.719 of word process or technology, and word have dedicated programs 0:22:34.760 --> 0:22:38.280 for screenwriting. But back, like back in the day, you're 0:22:38.320 --> 0:22:40.320 doing it on the typewriter. So I don't know, I 0:22:40.359 --> 0:22:42.919 feel like I need to be even more gentle with 0:22:43.040 --> 0:22:46.720 folks who were writing these scripts, because, man, give me 0:22:46.760 --> 0:22:49.120 an old timey typewriter and ask me to write anything, 0:22:49.160 --> 0:22:50.880 and I'm just going to make a mess of myself. 0:22:51.440 --> 0:22:53.960 Have you ever tried to write anything on a typewriter though? 0:22:55.200 --> 0:22:57.720 When I was a kid? Yeah, Okay, I've. 0:22:57.560 --> 0:23:00.280 Never done anything very long, but I have experiments with 0:23:00.320 --> 0:23:03.800 the typewriter, and one thing I noticed that's interesting about 0:23:03.800 --> 0:23:07.440 it is it doesn't permit you to spend as much 0:23:07.480 --> 0:23:11.720 time fiddling and editing as you go, which. 0:23:11.560 --> 0:23:12.760 Can be a good thing. Yeah. 0:23:12.800 --> 0:23:15.040 You kind of have to commit to a sentence once 0:23:15.080 --> 0:23:18.160 you've written it, which is you know, or you can 0:23:18.160 --> 0:23:19.800 think like, well, if I'm not happy with that, I'm 0:23:19.800 --> 0:23:22.399 just gonna have to fix it later on the full rewrite. 0:23:23.520 --> 0:23:26.160 You can't waste as much time just getting bogged down 0:23:26.200 --> 0:23:29.320 doing the same paragraph over and over. And I like 0:23:29.400 --> 0:23:29.960 that in a way. 0:23:30.040 --> 0:23:33.280 Yeah, yeah, it's a great point. Yeah, all right, let's 0:23:33.280 --> 0:23:36.480 get into the cast here, starting with the top billing. 0:23:37.000 --> 0:23:40.160 The biggest star here, the only Oscar winner in the cast, 0:23:40.680 --> 0:23:43.200 and that is George Kennedy, who plays Bill Crafton. 0:23:43.600 --> 0:23:46.320 There are two sides of the George Kennedy we get here. 0:23:46.440 --> 0:23:50.000 On one hand, you can tell that he's like, what 0:23:50.040 --> 0:23:52.159 the heck is this? What's going on? But on the 0:23:52.200 --> 0:23:54.840 other hand, he's not phoning it in. He's really he's 0:23:54.880 --> 0:23:57.680 a pro. He's like, Okay, I am Bill Crafton. I'm 0:23:57.680 --> 0:24:00.840 here because Squatch took my daughter and now you know, 0:24:00.920 --> 0:24:03.200 I haven't been dead against Squatch and that's what I do. 0:24:03.600 --> 0:24:06.560 Yeah. Yeah, yeah, He's he's solid here. I mean, you're not. 0:24:06.680 --> 0:24:09.600 This is no cool hand Luke the sixty seven film 0:24:09.640 --> 0:24:12.119 for which he Aaron you know, definitely earned his Oscar. 0:24:13.000 --> 0:24:16.600 But you know, Kennedy's great and just about anything, no 0:24:16.600 --> 0:24:19.880 matter how ridiculous it is. We previously talked about George 0:24:19.960 --> 0:24:22.199 Kennedy in our episode on The Uninvited, in which he 0:24:22.240 --> 0:24:26.280 plays one of the henchmen. Oh I forgot about that. Yeah, 0:24:26.320 --> 0:24:28.520 that was pretty recent too, That was pretty recent. Yeah, 0:24:28.520 --> 0:24:30.480 but it wasn't you know, it wasn't a strong role. 0:24:30.520 --> 0:24:33.040 And you know, he's one of those guys, that big 0:24:33.080 --> 0:24:35.680 fella he could play and intimidating hnchman, but he could 0:24:35.680 --> 0:24:39.840 also play was probably better at playing good natured lugs. Yeah, 0:24:40.000 --> 0:24:43.240 and we're more in the good natured lug category here 0:24:43.640 --> 0:24:46.320 as opposed to you know, just a pure heavy. 0:24:46.560 --> 0:24:49.280 Oh I just remembered. Yeah, he is one of the 0:24:49.320 --> 0:24:53.560 henchmen of Wall Street Walter, Yeah, Uninvited. 0:24:53.640 --> 0:24:57.720 Yeah, yeah, the Killer Cat movie. So yeah. Here, he's 0:24:57.760 --> 0:24:59.920 a father who lost his daughter to the savage Squatch 0:25:00.080 --> 0:25:02.720 demon Wood and his hell bent on revenge via a 0:25:02.760 --> 0:25:06.480 seemingly limitless arsenal of acme bear traps and dynamite. 0:25:08.440 --> 0:25:09.359 He comes with gear. 0:25:09.800 --> 0:25:13.919 Yeah yeah, So go back and listen to our episode 0:25:13.920 --> 0:25:16.280 of The Uninvited for more about George Kennedy if you 0:25:16.359 --> 0:25:18.840 so desire. But yeah, he's He's been in a ton 0:25:18.880 --> 0:25:20.159 of He was in a ton of films over the 0:25:20.200 --> 0:25:24.199 course of his career, sometimes more comedic, but also he 0:25:24.280 --> 0:25:27.360 dabbled in horror a bit. And yeah he did, he did. 0:25:27.440 --> 0:25:28.879 He brings it here, you know. He said he was 0:25:28.920 --> 0:25:31.160 said to be a really nice guy in Seat Real Pro. 0:25:31.440 --> 0:25:34.439 And he also brought his own stuntman and yellow cap 0:25:35.040 --> 0:25:36.800 so that he could trade out the yellow cap with 0:25:36.840 --> 0:25:39.679 his stunt man. And apparently that was his idea. He's like, 0:25:40.040 --> 0:25:42.639 they're only going to be looking at the cap in 0:25:42.680 --> 0:25:44.560 the action. They're not going to notice as much that 0:25:44.840 --> 0:25:45.800 it's my stunt double. 0:25:45.920 --> 0:25:47.960 Wait, is the yellow cap in the script then? 0:25:48.040 --> 0:25:48.399 Or was that? 0:25:48.440 --> 0:25:48.480 No? 0:25:48.680 --> 0:25:50.200 He brought that that was his thing. 0:25:50.400 --> 0:25:52.439 I felt like that was one of the best story 0:25:52.480 --> 0:25:55.120 details his character had. It was just his ad lived 0:25:55.160 --> 0:25:58.560 there because he later on he says, Oh, I wear 0:25:58.600 --> 0:26:01.040 this yellow hat because I want Squatch to see me. 0:26:01.359 --> 0:26:03.280 You know he wants to bring the fight to Squatch. 0:26:04.040 --> 0:26:06.520 It made me briefly go on a tangent where I 0:26:06.560 --> 0:26:09.480 was looking up images of George kennedyan films with hats on, 0:26:09.560 --> 0:26:11.280 and I was like, did he wear a funny hat 0:26:11.320 --> 0:26:12.040 in everything? 0:26:12.520 --> 0:26:12.600 Like? 0:26:12.840 --> 0:26:15.600 Was this just something he insisted on so that he 0:26:15.680 --> 0:26:17.960 felt like his stunt double would be more believable. But 0:26:18.200 --> 0:26:19.639 I don't know. I couldn't really figure that out, but 0:26:19.720 --> 0:26:21.960 I did see a lot of like he's wearing sombreros, 0:26:22.040 --> 0:26:26.439 he's wearing everything. Now, Kennedy apparently only agreed to do 0:26:26.480 --> 0:26:29.040 this film as long as they found a part for 0:26:29.160 --> 0:26:33.399 his daughter, Shannon. And we'll get to Shannon here in 0:26:33.440 --> 0:26:37.040 a bit, But you might expect that Shannon would play 0:26:37.200 --> 0:26:40.959 this character's daughter who gets killed by the Squatch, And 0:26:41.119 --> 0:26:44.880 like the first twenty minutes of the picture, now. 0:26:44.800 --> 0:26:46.679 The first twenty minute, the first five. 0:26:47.000 --> 0:26:50.239 Five minutes, Yeah, it happens really quickly, so you'd kind 0:26:50.280 --> 0:26:52.320 of expect her to be cast in that role. But 0:26:52.520 --> 0:26:55.479 that's not the case. Maybe they already had somebody lined up, 0:26:55.480 --> 0:26:57.960 and that that somebody was an actress by the name 0:26:57.960 --> 0:27:01.359 of Jill Marin. Find out anything about her. I believe 0:27:01.400 --> 0:27:04.960 this is her only credited role. She plays Julie Crafton. 0:27:05.200 --> 0:27:08.159 She's in the movie for like eighty five seconds and 0:27:08.320 --> 0:27:13.200 she yeah, yeah, so yeah, I don't really have much 0:27:13.240 --> 0:27:15.440 to say about her because she's so brief. It's one 0:27:15.440 --> 0:27:18.320 of these characters where they're setting her up when you 0:27:18.359 --> 0:27:19.919 first meet her, like, Okay, this is going to be 0:27:19.920 --> 0:27:22.800 our main character, and then she's just gone and then 0:27:22.840 --> 0:27:23.600 never comes back. 0:27:24.480 --> 0:27:27.160 All right, So those are the Craftons. But now let's 0:27:27.160 --> 0:27:29.280 get to this. Let's get to the who I think 0:27:29.280 --> 0:27:31.879 of as the gang. This is our main core group 0:27:31.960 --> 0:27:36.639 of young people, and they're also sort of amateur squatch investigators, 0:27:36.680 --> 0:27:38.280 or at least one of them is. And the restaurant 0:27:38.240 --> 0:27:39.080 along for the ride. 0:27:39.320 --> 0:27:42.159 Yes, one of them is a squatch investigator, and he 0:27:42.240 --> 0:27:45.520 is trying to trick the others into squatch investigating with 0:27:45.640 --> 0:27:48.359 him by luring them to the woods on the promise 0:27:48.359 --> 0:27:52.359 of a holiday. Yeah, and that's a cruel trick to 0:27:52.359 --> 0:27:53.400 play in your friends. 0:27:53.480 --> 0:27:56.680 Yeah. But this character that are sort of our lead 0:27:56.760 --> 0:27:59.840 male character here is Jack and he is played by 0:28:00.080 --> 0:28:05.080 David Michael O'Neill. Not sure how old this particular actor is, 0:28:05.560 --> 0:28:08.920 but American actor active from about eighty five through twenty twenty. 0:28:08.960 --> 0:28:11.600 It seems like kind of looks like a young Kurt 0:28:11.680 --> 0:28:12.240 Russell here. 0:28:12.680 --> 0:28:14.960 Yeah, I was gonna say the same thing. Reminds me 0:28:15.000 --> 0:28:17.560 a bit of Kurt Russell. Not with the same level 0:28:17.600 --> 0:28:20.399 of charm or charisma, but he looks a lot like Kurt. 0:28:21.119 --> 0:28:24.520 Yeah. His acting style in this seems to go from 0:28:24.520 --> 0:28:29.680 like normal, like handsome dude in a slasher or slasher 0:28:29.720 --> 0:28:33.640 adjacent picture, to like almost kind of like psycho action mode, 0:28:34.160 --> 0:28:36.439 like unhinged action hero character. 0:28:37.600 --> 0:28:40.920 I have a comment about our main five young characters 0:28:41.320 --> 0:28:43.040 later when we get to the plot section, I'll talk 0:28:43.080 --> 0:28:46.880 about it, Okay. The gist is that all five of them, 0:28:46.920 --> 0:28:52.720 basically and especially like three of them, are very inconsistently characterized, 0:28:52.840 --> 0:28:56.160 so they're kind of hard to describe as characters because 0:28:56.160 --> 0:28:57.680 they change from scene to scene. 0:28:58.080 --> 0:29:01.400 Yeah, and again we can attribute a lot of this 0:29:01.440 --> 0:29:06.680 to the fact that clearly this was a monster's first design. Here. 0:29:06.760 --> 0:29:10.200 You know, this film originates with the monsters. Humans were 0:29:10.200 --> 0:29:14.080 added because humans are apparently necessary for pictures like this, 0:29:14.200 --> 0:29:16.920 and maybe and it might be a shame that you 0:29:17.000 --> 0:29:18.840 have to have the humans and in such a movie. 0:29:18.960 --> 0:29:21.560 Now that would be ambitious thinking about doing it the 0:29:21.600 --> 0:29:25.320 other way. You could do an alien zombie squatch movie, 0:29:26.040 --> 0:29:29.160 but it's just those things. So it's like aliens are 0:29:29.160 --> 0:29:32.760 in the woods hunting for squatch and they encounter zombies. 0:29:33.040 --> 0:29:37.240 There you go, Yeah, somebody ride it all right? Well, 0:29:37.480 --> 0:29:40.680 David Michael O'Neill here he got into writing and directing 0:29:40.680 --> 0:29:42.920 in the nineties. He directed and co wrote a nineteen 0:29:43.000 --> 0:29:45.720 ninety nine film titled Five Aces, and that one starred 0:29:45.760 --> 0:29:50.840 Charlie Sheen and Christopher MacDonald. Yeah. We'll come back to 0:29:50.880 --> 0:29:53.680 more about this performance later, but this is our protagonist. 0:29:53.760 --> 0:29:58.800 This is our hero, I guess. Yeah. Yeah. Now playing 0:29:59.000 --> 0:30:06.040 his girlfriend Carrie is Pamela Gilbert. So Pamela Gilbert was 0:30:06.080 --> 0:30:09.800 coming off of the Troma film Lust for Freedom from 0:30:09.800 --> 0:30:12.360 eighty seven, as well as a pair of Fred Olin 0:30:12.440 --> 0:30:15.800 ray films from the same year, Cyclone, which I think 0:30:15.880 --> 0:30:19.520 is a motorbike film and Evil Spawn, which I believe 0:30:19.600 --> 0:30:22.560 is aliens of one sort or another, as well as 0:30:22.560 --> 0:30:25.959 some earlier modeling work and so forth. She'd retire from 0:30:26.040 --> 0:30:29.120 acting the year after Demon Warp. Gilbert went on to 0:30:29.120 --> 0:30:32.920 have an accomplished career ongoing career as an English professor, 0:30:33.040 --> 0:30:37.239 author and expert in nineteenth century British literature in the 0:30:37.280 --> 0:30:40.480 history of the body and medicine. She has several books 0:30:40.480 --> 0:30:42.640 out and was looking at somebody's that look quite interesting. 0:30:42.880 --> 0:30:48.120 They include twenty nineteen's Victorian Skin Surface Self History. Yeah. 0:30:48.160 --> 0:30:50.640 I thought that was that's a cool transition, going from 0:30:50.680 --> 0:30:54.200 the Bigfoot movies to the literary journals. 0:30:54.520 --> 0:30:57.400 Yeah, yeah, absolutely. All right, let's talk about the rest 0:30:57.440 --> 0:31:00.520 of the gang here. We also have a character Tom, 0:31:00.600 --> 0:31:03.240 and it's confusing because, especially early on, Tom looks a 0:31:03.280 --> 0:31:06.120 whole lot like Jack and I had trouble telling them apart. 0:31:06.920 --> 0:31:10.640 But Tom is played by Billy Jane born nineteen sixty nine. 0:31:10.960 --> 0:31:14.400 Child actor turned teen actor turned well grown up actor, 0:31:14.600 --> 0:31:17.920 director and producer. As a kid, best remembered for roles 0:31:17.960 --> 0:31:20.840 on TV, including twenty six episodes of the Bad News 0:31:20.840 --> 0:31:24.120 Bears series and later as a supporting character on the 0:31:24.160 --> 0:31:27.640 series Silver Spoons. He also did an episode of Tales 0:31:27.680 --> 0:31:30.480 from the Dark Side, and in his film credits he 0:31:30.560 --> 0:31:33.200 played he was in a film we proved. No, we've 0:31:33.200 --> 0:31:36.360 never talked about this. This is a particular film on 0:31:36.480 --> 0:31:39.000 Weird House. I'm sorry, we talked about the second Beast 0:31:39.080 --> 0:31:42.480 Master movie. But this guy as a kid was in 0:31:42.720 --> 0:31:46.000 eighty two's The beast Master playing the young Dar, so 0:31:46.080 --> 0:31:48.360 that our young beast Master in flashback? 0:31:48.600 --> 0:31:50.360 Okay, are we gonna have to go back and do 0:31:50.520 --> 0:31:53.120 beast Master one even though we've already done two. 0:31:53.560 --> 0:31:56.160 We should? We probably should. It's so much fun. You know, 0:31:56.200 --> 0:31:59.200 you got ripped torn as the villain. It's yeah, it's 0:31:59.400 --> 0:32:00.320 one of my favorite. 0:32:00.440 --> 0:32:02.920 Wait oh it was wings Hauser and. 0:32:03.040 --> 0:32:06.480 Yeah, yeah, wings Hauser in the sequel. The sequel's great too, 0:32:06.520 --> 0:32:10.960 but the sequel's decidedly stupider. Yeah, and a lot of fun. 0:32:12.400 --> 0:32:15.840 But anyway, So this guy played Dar in eighty two 0:32:15.880 --> 0:32:17.800 as the beast Master. He was also in eighty three's 0:32:17.840 --> 0:32:20.920 Kujo as a child actor, and he's in the eighty 0:32:20.960 --> 0:32:25.200 five teen comedy and very loose Twelfth Night adaptation Just 0:32:25.280 --> 0:32:29.240 one of the Guys, which I vaguely remember watching as 0:32:29.280 --> 0:32:31.600 a young person, and I remember liking it back in 0:32:31.640 --> 0:32:33.200 the day. I do not know how it holds up. 0:32:34.440 --> 0:32:38.720 His other credits include eighty one's Bloody Birthday and Hospital Massacre, 0:32:39.080 --> 0:32:43.560 eighty two's Superstition, and eighty nine's Doctor Alien. He remained 0:32:43.560 --> 0:32:46.840 active as an actor and directed multiple music videos, including 0:32:46.960 --> 0:32:49.440 various Buck Cherry music videos. 0:32:49.480 --> 0:32:52.080 It seems, Oh, did he do the one for I 0:32:52.120 --> 0:32:53.080 Love the Cocaine. 0:32:53.280 --> 0:32:56.120 I don't know, but we had we had a buck 0:32:56.200 --> 0:33:00.000 Cherry connection in Gargoyles, like one of the band Memory 0:33:00.400 --> 0:33:03.800 Fathers was in Gargoyles, So I don't know I had. 0:33:03.840 --> 0:33:05.479 I don't know much about buck Cherry, but I think 0:33:05.480 --> 0:33:08.440 they're Anaheim bass so maybe they were just like various 0:33:09.120 --> 0:33:12.040 connections to the Internet entertainment industry there. And then I 0:33:12.120 --> 0:33:13.800 dug a little deeper and I saw that their bass 0:33:13.800 --> 0:33:17.000 player is a huge Sasquatch enthusiast. So I don't know 0:33:17.040 --> 0:33:18.160 the conspiracy widens. 0:33:18.200 --> 0:33:20.240 How did you find? Were you just googling the band 0:33:20.240 --> 0:33:21.680 members plus Sasquatch? 0:33:22.000 --> 0:33:25.440 I was, Yes, that's the that's the that's the professional 0:33:25.480 --> 0:33:28.400 research that I'm involved in. But I got a hit 0:33:28.440 --> 0:33:31.920 on it, so amazing, it works. I love it all right, 0:33:31.960 --> 0:33:34.240 So we're not done with the gang here. We also 0:33:34.320 --> 0:33:38.640 have Fred. Fred is played by Hank Stratton born nineteen 0:33:38.720 --> 0:33:41.720 sixty one. He's appeared in various TV shows between eighty 0:33:41.720 --> 0:33:45.560 seven and twenty eleven, including Perfect Strangers, mcguiver Saved by 0:33:45.560 --> 0:33:49.720 the Bell Murder. She wrote Fraser Silk stalkings, er and heroes. 0:33:49.960 --> 0:33:52.200 I'm just mad they didn't give this guy an ascot. 0:33:53.520 --> 0:33:55.360 Yeah, he could have used one. It would have helped 0:33:55.440 --> 0:33:59.120 us differentiate more, all right. And then we also have 0:33:59.320 --> 0:34:03.920 Cindy played by Colleen McDermott born nineteen sixty five. She 0:34:04.040 --> 0:34:07.400 was coming off fourteen episodes of As the World Turns, 0:34:07.440 --> 0:34:09.319 and she'd go on to appear in episodes of Murder. 0:34:09.400 --> 0:34:12.239 She wrote Days of Our Lives, Dream on Charmed and 0:34:12.560 --> 0:34:13.720 CSI Miami. 0:34:15.840 --> 0:34:18.319 So those are our main five, but they're not the 0:34:18.360 --> 0:34:19.719 only characters who show up. 0:34:20.040 --> 0:34:22.560 That's right, because we're also going to get a couple 0:34:22.640 --> 0:34:26.440 of a couple of stoner babes who are have headed 0:34:26.440 --> 0:34:29.160 out into the woods to harvest some bud and maybe 0:34:29.239 --> 0:34:33.200 do a little sunbathing in demon woods. So the first 0:34:33.200 --> 0:34:36.920 of these is Betsy, and Betsy is played by certified 0:34:37.080 --> 0:34:40.799 b movie scream queen Michelle Bauer born nineteen fifty eight, 0:34:41.640 --> 0:34:44.000 best known for her work in the films of Fred 0:34:44.000 --> 0:34:47.840 Olin Ray So she's in eighty eight's Hollywood Chainsaw Hookers, 0:34:48.360 --> 0:34:52.360 eighty seven Cyclone and also eighty seven is The Phantom Empire. 0:34:52.920 --> 0:34:55.800 She's also been in such pictures as eighty eight's Nightmare Sisters, 0:34:55.920 --> 0:34:59.240 ninety one's puppet Master three, as well as some notable 0:35:00.160 --> 0:35:03.600 weird deep cuts like eighty two's Cafe Flesh. 0:35:03.640 --> 0:35:06.720 So I don't think I had ever seen a movie 0:35:06.719 --> 0:35:10.160 with Michelle Bauer in it before, but she is a 0:35:10.200 --> 0:35:14.120 great screen presence and really funny, obviously has a great 0:35:14.160 --> 0:35:17.240 sense of humor. And I thought it was ironic because 0:35:17.800 --> 0:35:21.440 there's an interview on one of the Vinegar Syndrome discs 0:35:21.440 --> 0:35:24.160 with her where she talks about doing the movie, and 0:35:24.239 --> 0:35:26.520 she's explaining at the beginning of this interview that she 0:35:26.600 --> 0:35:29.279 had done some modeling and some live performances. I think 0:35:29.320 --> 0:35:33.400 she mentioned mud wrestling, yeah, wrestling, yeah yeah, And she 0:35:33.440 --> 0:35:35.560 says like, okay, so you know she'd done this stuff, 0:35:35.560 --> 0:35:38.080 but she didn't have any interest in being in movies 0:35:38.960 --> 0:35:41.560 because she thought of herself like, oh, I don't know 0:35:41.600 --> 0:35:44.280 anything about acting, you know, I don't have any acting skills. 0:35:44.320 --> 0:35:48.200 But I think she's easily the best actor in the movie. 0:35:48.719 --> 0:35:50.400 I mean, I don't I've never seen her in a 0:35:50.440 --> 0:35:52.920 dramatic role, so I couldn't comment either way on that, 0:35:53.040 --> 0:35:57.560 But just in terms of being a funny, entertaining screen presence, 0:35:57.640 --> 0:36:02.560 she's like the most charismatic person the film, and she's funny. 0:36:02.640 --> 0:36:06.200 I think even in scenes where the writing isn't itself 0:36:06.280 --> 0:36:10.160 all that funny, like she makes it work. Almost seems 0:36:10.200 --> 0:36:13.000 to be kind of riffing on the movie she's in 0:36:13.000 --> 0:36:16.319 in her scenes. One of the best examples is so 0:36:16.360 --> 0:36:18.600 she's like driving up into the mountains with her friend 0:36:18.640 --> 0:36:22.680 and they're supposed to be harvesting some cannabis from an 0:36:22.719 --> 0:36:25.799 illegal grow site. And they get there and there's nothing there. 0:36:25.920 --> 0:36:28.600 It's like all been taken. And then she just kind 0:36:28.600 --> 0:36:30.480 of like looks at the camera and they're up in 0:36:30.520 --> 0:36:33.640 the demon woods and she's like, well might as well tan, 0:36:35.160 --> 0:36:38.719 Like she's I don't know. It felt almost like an 0:36:38.760 --> 0:36:42.200 improvd line at the implausibility of the next scene, which 0:36:42.360 --> 0:36:44.000 you know they had to get to somehow. 0:36:44.200 --> 0:36:46.879 Yeah, yeah, with the top coming up. Yeah, Yeah, I agree. 0:36:46.920 --> 0:36:50.560 I think Michelle Bauer is great here and yeah easily 0:36:50.640 --> 0:36:54.000 has a natural charisma that works exceptionally well in a 0:36:54.040 --> 0:36:57.640 B movie like this. Now. Her friend that you mentioned, 0:36:58.480 --> 0:37:01.640 who were told his name, Kara, is played by Shannon Kennedy. 0:37:01.760 --> 0:37:04.800 This is George Kennedy's daughter and the reason he agreed 0:37:04.840 --> 0:37:06.879 to be in this film to begin with. I guess 0:37:06.880 --> 0:37:09.200 she just wanted to try her hand at acting, or 0:37:09.360 --> 0:37:12.000 to do a project with her dad. Even if it's 0:37:12.000 --> 0:37:13.840 a film where her head gets ripped off by a 0:37:13.880 --> 0:37:18.319 sasquatch while she's sunbathing, you know, it's still I guess 0:37:18.400 --> 0:37:20.040 kind of sweet that they're in the same picture here. 0:37:20.520 --> 0:37:22.480 I don't think she did any other films. 0:37:23.440 --> 0:37:25.040 Wanted to be in a movie. So I play a 0:37:25.120 --> 0:37:28.080 character who is looking for marijuana, fails to find it, 0:37:28.120 --> 0:37:30.160 and then gets head ripped off by sasquatch. 0:37:30.440 --> 0:37:33.560 Yeah, there you go. I mean, by this point in 0:37:33.640 --> 0:37:35.840 his career, George Kennedy probably seen it all anyway, so 0:37:35.920 --> 0:37:38.719 he didn't think twice about any of it. Yeah, so 0:37:38.920 --> 0:37:41.040 he's like, yeah, yeah, this is welcome to the Welcome 0:37:41.040 --> 0:37:43.440 to the movie industry, kid. Or maybe he wanted it 0:37:43.480 --> 0:37:46.000 to be a picture like this, like like, you don't 0:37:46.040 --> 0:37:48.040 want to be an entertainment, let me find a good 0:37:48.040 --> 0:37:49.920 one to agree for us, to agree to us to 0:37:49.920 --> 0:37:50.200 be in. 0:37:51.600 --> 0:37:55.120 I think she qualifies as the most eighties looking of 0:37:55.160 --> 0:37:57.160 the people in the movie. She's got a bit of 0:37:57.520 --> 0:37:59.239 a Cindy lawper thing going on. 0:38:00.160 --> 0:38:05.160 Yeah, all right, well, so far we've had we've got Kennedy. 0:38:05.440 --> 0:38:09.279 We've got a bunch of young people. We have a sasquatch. 0:38:09.600 --> 0:38:11.600 But you got to have a creep in here somewhere, 0:38:11.640 --> 0:38:13.880 and that's where our next actor comes in. This is 0:38:13.960 --> 0:38:18.600 John Durbin playing the Minister. I'm not sure how old 0:38:18.680 --> 0:38:20.799 John Durbin is. He's been around for a while and 0:38:20.800 --> 0:38:22.880 I think is still active. I see that he's attached 0:38:22.880 --> 0:38:27.000 to some sort of upcoming Eli Roth related picture. But yeah, 0:38:27.000 --> 0:38:31.160 he's a creepy, highly animated thin dude, and there's always 0:38:31.160 --> 0:38:35.280 a space for someone like that in genre pictures. Durbin 0:38:35.360 --> 0:38:37.480 had already been active on the screen in TV since 0:38:37.520 --> 0:38:40.600 eighty three. He'd played I think his film debut was 0:38:40.640 --> 0:38:43.680 playing Radio Corpse Number one in eighty five's Return of 0:38:43.719 --> 0:38:47.239 the Living Dead, So early zombie roll there for him. 0:38:47.760 --> 0:38:52.640 Subsequent credits included two episodes of TV's Max Headroom, nineteen 0:38:52.680 --> 0:38:56.080 eighty nine's Doctor Caligari, ninety one's doll Man, ninety four's 0:38:56.120 --> 0:38:59.600 witch Hunt That's the sequel to cast a Deadly Spell? 0:39:00.080 --> 0:39:03.800 Is Hopper in the lead, Yeah, TV's The Shining In 0:39:03.920 --> 0:39:09.120 ninety seven, and episodes of Star Trek's Next Generation Deep 0:39:09.120 --> 0:39:13.160 Space nine and Voyager, playing I think different different aliens 0:39:13.200 --> 0:39:16.200 in each one, because again, you're a thin dude that's 0:39:16.320 --> 0:39:18.799 very expressive. You're gonna be able to act through all 0:39:18.840 --> 0:39:21.360 the makeup that someone's going to put on you. 0:39:22.200 --> 0:39:24.719 In this movie, they make his teeth look gross, and 0:39:24.760 --> 0:39:26.880 he does a lot of like showing the gross teeth. 0:39:27.320 --> 0:39:29.759 Yeah, I mean this, this guy's all in. I would 0:39:29.800 --> 0:39:36.000 say Michelle Bauer and John Durban for the Acting Acting 0:39:36.520 --> 0:39:39.080 Honors for Demon Warp. They both give it, give it, 0:39:39.120 --> 0:39:40.759 they're all so he was. 0:39:40.840 --> 0:39:42.920 I'm trying to remember who he was in Max Headroom, 0:39:42.920 --> 0:39:45.280 which I've seen the first couple of episodes of. 0:39:45.400 --> 0:39:48.640 A minor character that I think I don't recall the 0:39:48.680 --> 0:39:52.319 character's name, but it's a play on Dracula. So you've 0:39:52.320 --> 0:39:55.120 seen Max Headroom episodes more recently than I have, So 0:39:55.200 --> 0:39:56.359 maybe that brings a bell. 0:39:56.800 --> 0:39:59.399 I've thought before that maybe we should do a weird 0:39:59.400 --> 0:40:01.720 house cinema the pilot of Max Headroom. 0:40:01.840 --> 0:40:05.839 Yeah, yeah, I'm all for it, all right, I will 0:40:05.880 --> 0:40:08.120 not you know, we love to give credit where credit 0:40:08.160 --> 0:40:11.319 is due for people in monster suits. I couldn't find 0:40:11.520 --> 0:40:14.880 there's no actual credit for whoever's playing the Sasquatch in 0:40:14.920 --> 0:40:17.560 one of the extras on the Vinegar Syndrome disc. I 0:40:17.560 --> 0:40:20.840 think it's mentioned that someone in production's boyfriend played the monster, 0:40:21.560 --> 0:40:25.120 but they are not, to my knowledge, actually credited all 0:40:25.239 --> 0:40:29.640 right special effects on this again. Beeckler did the original 0:40:29.680 --> 0:40:32.560 monster designs and some of the monster elements that are 0:40:32.600 --> 0:40:35.280 used in the picture in the end, but Mark Wolf 0:40:36.680 --> 0:40:40.200 is the special effects lead that's credited. He's credited with 0:40:40.239 --> 0:40:42.440 special effects work on such films as eighty six is 0:40:42.520 --> 0:40:45.400 Flight to the Navigator, eighty six is Friday the Thirteenth, 0:40:45.440 --> 0:40:49.600 Part six Jason Lives, eighty seven, Slave Girls from Beyond Infinity, 0:40:49.640 --> 0:40:53.640 and eighty seven's ish Tar, And then finally the score. 0:40:53.840 --> 0:40:58.240 It's another Dan Slider score. We previously mentioned Slider because 0:40:58.280 --> 0:41:02.480 he also scored the Killer Cat Movie Uninvited. I don't 0:41:02.480 --> 0:41:04.000 know what do you think about the music here, Joe. 0:41:04.000 --> 0:41:06.800 I found it forgettable but effective. 0:41:07.280 --> 0:41:10.160 Uh. I don't want to be mean, but I think 0:41:10.239 --> 0:41:13.640 this is one of the funnier musical scores I can recall. 0:41:14.320 --> 0:41:17.040 I actually I have a note about this, so maybe 0:41:17.040 --> 0:41:19.360 I'll just go ahead and mention it. I was trying 0:41:19.400 --> 0:41:21.920 to understand what it was that was making the music 0:41:21.960 --> 0:41:25.880 funny to me, and I think it's the contrast between 0:41:25.960 --> 0:41:30.480 the composition and the actual sound of it. The composition 0:41:30.760 --> 0:41:36.080 is incredibly unsubtle, so it's this heavy, dire, dramatic minor 0:41:36.160 --> 0:41:39.600 key music. Dun dun duh, you know, uh duh d 0:41:39.800 --> 0:41:42.919 d d and uh. So it's that kind of thing. 0:41:43.480 --> 0:41:47.600 But the electronic instrument voicings that they use do not 0:41:47.920 --> 0:41:50.880 match the bigness of the music. They sound kind of 0:41:51.000 --> 0:41:55.239 thin and plinky. So to get the feeling I'm talking about, 0:41:55.320 --> 0:41:59.560 imagine the most dark, evil sounding music you can, like 0:41:59.760 --> 0:42:02.800 Night on Bald Mountain to do a callback to Demon Pond, 0:42:03.239 --> 0:42:06.040 but performed on a series of toy keyboards. 0:42:06.360 --> 0:42:09.440 Okay, all right, so we're pretty far away from Tamta 0:42:09.680 --> 0:42:10.320 on the score. 0:42:10.840 --> 0:42:14.960 Yes, yeah, no offense intended to slider, but yes, the 0:42:15.280 --> 0:42:17.040 music was given me a chuckle. 0:42:26.320 --> 0:42:26.680 All right. 0:42:27.160 --> 0:42:28.960 Should we talk about the plot. 0:42:29.400 --> 0:42:30.160 Let's get into it. 0:42:30.239 --> 0:42:33.320 Yeah, well, where could a Bigfoot movie begin but outer space? 0:42:34.440 --> 0:42:37.799 So we see the Earth, It's floating blue, looks very 0:42:37.840 --> 0:42:41.240 serene there in the void. And suddenly a little pink 0:42:41.400 --> 0:42:45.560 object zooms from off screen down into the Earth's atmosphere 0:42:45.600 --> 0:42:49.160 and it makes a whooshing sound. It comes down through 0:42:49.239 --> 0:42:52.120 the sky and next we cut to the surface and 0:42:52.160 --> 0:42:55.120 now we're down on the earth in the mountains of 0:42:55.160 --> 0:42:56.160 southern California. 0:42:56.880 --> 0:42:58.600 Yep. And we're gonna stay there. You're going to see 0:42:58.640 --> 0:42:59.759 a lot of this landscape. 0:43:00.200 --> 0:43:02.040 So this seems to be in the past. I guess 0:43:02.040 --> 0:43:05.799 it's supposed to be the eighteen hundreds sometime. And we 0:43:05.880 --> 0:43:09.040 see a priest or a minister wandering through the woods. 0:43:09.080 --> 0:43:11.560 I originally thought this guy was supposed to be like 0:43:11.640 --> 0:43:15.520 a Catholic padre, but you said he was credited as minister, 0:43:15.760 --> 0:43:18.800 so maybe they're thinking he's a Protestant minister. 0:43:19.000 --> 0:43:21.760 I don't know who knows what they're thinking, but he's 0:43:21.800 --> 0:43:25.919 a man of the cloth, seemingly, but as we'll see, 0:43:26.000 --> 0:43:29.840 like he's ultimately up for whatever. He's flexible, he's flexible, 0:43:29.840 --> 0:43:30.919 and he's worshiped. Yes. 0:43:31.960 --> 0:43:34.520 Yeah, So I'm just going to stick with thinking he's 0:43:34.520 --> 0:43:36.520 supposed to be a Catholic priest. Maybe that's wrong, but 0:43:36.520 --> 0:43:39.480 that's what I thought. So he's a priest leading a 0:43:39.520 --> 0:43:42.560 horse and he's reading aloud from what looks like a 0:43:42.600 --> 0:43:46.560 paperback Bible. He's reading. I looked up the passage he's 0:43:46.600 --> 0:43:49.160 reading from, and it is a correct quote of the Bible, 0:43:49.239 --> 0:43:54.719 unlike in the Prophecy. He's reading from Deuteronomy chapter twenty eight, 0:43:54.760 --> 0:43:57.759 and I was gonna originally read this part, but it's 0:43:57.800 --> 0:44:01.000 a bunch of grandiose threats of cong quoi an annihilation. 0:44:01.760 --> 0:44:03.400 The main thing I'm gonna mention, because I think it 0:44:03.520 --> 0:44:05.760 sort of gets referenced again at the end of the book, 0:44:06.120 --> 0:44:08.280 is the part of the quote he reads that says, 0:44:08.640 --> 0:44:11.080 and he shall eat the fruit of thy cattle and 0:44:11.160 --> 0:44:14.279 the fruit of thy land until thou be destroyed. And 0:44:14.320 --> 0:44:18.480 he shall also not leave thee either corn, wine, or oil. 0:44:20.120 --> 0:44:22.399 I think they're going to try to tie this into 0:44:22.480 --> 0:44:25.200 aliens somehow. It's like, oh, this is not about a 0:44:25.600 --> 0:44:28.520 this is not about an ancient military conquest. It's about 0:44:28.560 --> 0:44:29.880 aliens coming to earth. 0:44:30.000 --> 0:44:34.280 He shall leave, not corn, not wine, not who hash. Yes. 0:44:36.239 --> 0:44:40.440 So later we see this same priest slinking around in 0:44:40.480 --> 0:44:43.719 the mountains singing Amazing Grace, and it actually kind of 0:44:43.760 --> 0:44:47.520 made me wonder, like, how popular would that song have 0:44:47.640 --> 0:44:50.000 been with the Catholic clergy in the year this is 0:44:50.040 --> 0:44:53.680 supposed to be set. I don't know, But again this 0:44:53.760 --> 0:44:55.920 is mixed up because maybe it's not actually supposed to 0:44:55.920 --> 0:44:56.720 be a Catholic priest. 0:44:56.760 --> 0:44:58.600 But yeah, maybe he only sings it when he's out 0:44:58.640 --> 0:44:59.759 alone in the wilderness like this. 0:45:00.440 --> 0:45:02.760 It did make me think of an alternate version where 0:45:02.960 --> 0:45:05.040 you know, they're just thinking on the set, like, what's 0:45:05.080 --> 0:45:07.239 a religious song we can have him doing, And they 0:45:07.520 --> 0:45:10.400 got the padre singing Our God is an awesome god. 0:45:11.840 --> 0:45:12.200 Anyway. 0:45:12.280 --> 0:45:15.279 So he's out there singing with his horse, and out 0:45:15.320 --> 0:45:19.320 of nowhere a massive object crashes down from the sky 0:45:19.520 --> 0:45:22.239 and it lands in a ravine up ahead, and then 0:45:22.280 --> 0:45:25.400 we get a long shot of the priest approaching the object, 0:45:25.680 --> 0:45:28.640 which is some kind of gray metal ball or disc 0:45:28.920 --> 0:45:33.200 encased inside this partial crust of rock. And this is 0:45:33.239 --> 0:45:35.919 the part I mentioned earlier that on the very pixelated 0:45:36.000 --> 0:45:38.239 version I was watching I did not realize this was 0:45:38.400 --> 0:45:40.239 supposed to be the thing that fell from the sky. 0:45:41.360 --> 0:45:44.440 It just looks like he's going to a boulder. But actually, 0:45:44.520 --> 0:45:47.000 once you can see the effect, this is not a 0:45:47.200 --> 0:45:49.360 bad looking mad or whatever. 0:45:49.400 --> 0:45:52.040 This is. Yeah, yeah, it looks pretty cool. There's a 0:45:52.080 --> 0:45:55.719 breakdown on the Vinegar Syndrome disc about how they did this. 0:45:55.760 --> 0:45:58.239 It's like a perspective model shot with the model and 0:45:58.280 --> 0:46:01.840 the foreground. Oh yeah, a little bit of cool movie 0:46:01.840 --> 0:46:02.439 magic here. 0:46:02.719 --> 0:46:06.880 Yeah, yeah, looks good. So the priest approaches the site. 0:46:06.960 --> 0:46:09.760 He's got a crucifix around his neck and he raises 0:46:09.800 --> 0:46:11.480 it up and he holds it out in front of 0:46:11.520 --> 0:46:14.239 his face and he mutters, it was a fire. It's 0:46:14.280 --> 0:46:17.160 the Second Coming, It's the Lord come down to Earth, 0:46:17.880 --> 0:46:20.600 and then we cut to the credits. With the credits, 0:46:20.719 --> 0:46:23.400 are you know they play over panning shots through the 0:46:23.440 --> 0:46:28.440 woods while that funny music plays, and then oh, I 0:46:28.480 --> 0:46:31.759 didn't mention this earlier, but for some reason, in the 0:46:31.800 --> 0:46:35.680 middle of the credits, at one point, there's this big 0:46:36.280 --> 0:46:40.120 pitch bend or warp in the music, like it's being 0:46:40.160 --> 0:46:42.920 played on a tape, and suddenly the tape gets stretched 0:46:43.040 --> 0:46:45.520 or sped up, and I was wondering, could this be 0:46:45.640 --> 0:46:49.720 an intentional nod to the demon warp? It must be so, 0:46:49.719 --> 0:46:53.000 So after the credits we get an establishing shot of 0:46:53.040 --> 0:46:55.600 a cabin, which will be the central location for the 0:46:55.640 --> 0:46:58.680 first third of the movie. I'd say, don't look too 0:46:58.760 --> 0:47:01.400 close at this cabin, because if you do, it starts 0:47:01.440 --> 0:47:04.440 to seem less remote and cabiny than I think the 0:47:04.480 --> 0:47:05.520 movie intends. 0:47:05.560 --> 0:47:05.680 Like. 0:47:06.200 --> 0:47:07.560 The more I was looking at it, I was like, 0:47:07.560 --> 0:47:10.120 I think that's a paved road running behind it. It 0:47:10.160 --> 0:47:12.960 looks like it's got all the utilities, and I. 0:47:13.000 --> 0:47:14.839 Know, yeah, yeah, we're supposed to be just in the 0:47:14.880 --> 0:47:16.560 middle of nowhere here, right. 0:47:17.200 --> 0:47:20.080 So we cut inside the cabin and we meet Bill 0:47:20.160 --> 0:47:23.560 Crafton played by George Kennedy and his adult daughter Julie 0:47:23.560 --> 0:47:26.080 played by Jill Marin, and they're sitting on the floor 0:47:26.120 --> 0:47:27.200 playing trivial pursuit. 0:47:27.520 --> 0:47:31.520 Yeah, big Bill is really slamming those pieces, like the 0:47:31.520 --> 0:47:33.960 little pie slices or is flying out. 0:47:34.239 --> 0:47:36.919 So he has to answer a trivia question. I wonder 0:47:37.000 --> 0:47:40.680 can listeners get this one who played Lawrence Talbot in 0:47:40.719 --> 0:47:44.400 the movie The wolf Man? And he thinks for a second, 0:47:44.440 --> 0:47:47.360 and then at first he thinks it was Lynn Cheney Junior, 0:47:47.400 --> 0:47:49.759 but then he gets it right. He remembers Lawn and 0:47:49.920 --> 0:47:52.840 Kennedy is very proud of himself when he nails the answer. 0:47:52.880 --> 0:47:56.640 He's got a big grin. So the character stuff in 0:47:56.719 --> 0:48:00.279 this scene is a familiar trope. I'm trying to think, 0:48:00.440 --> 0:48:03.680 what is the main movie I remember this from? But 0:48:04.080 --> 0:48:07.960 it's the goofy, befuddled old dad who can't take care 0:48:08.000 --> 0:48:11.200 of himself and his adult daughter who sort of becomes 0:48:11.239 --> 0:48:14.919 his mother. So this is expressed in the movie through 0:48:15.000 --> 0:48:19.320 wardrobe malfunctions, like the game is interrupted when Julie notices 0:48:19.360 --> 0:48:22.480 that Bill is missing buttons on his shirt. She offers 0:48:22.560 --> 0:48:25.000 to sew them back on, but when he goes to 0:48:25.040 --> 0:48:27.960 get her sewing kitch, he notices that his socks don't match. 0:48:29.080 --> 0:48:29.960 Yeah. 0:48:30.040 --> 0:48:32.200 Oh, and somehow in the middle of this, he makes 0:48:32.239 --> 0:48:35.680 these bitter comments about like the wickedness of her mother, 0:48:35.800 --> 0:48:36.800 who is not present. 0:48:37.640 --> 0:48:39.799 Yeah. Yeah, So we get the idea that you know, 0:48:39.840 --> 0:48:42.520 this is a there's a divorce scenario going on here, 0:48:42.640 --> 0:48:44.440 and that's one of the reasons that there's nobody to 0:48:44.480 --> 0:48:46.640 look after Big Bill here, and that's why he said 0:48:46.680 --> 0:48:47.080 a mess. 0:48:47.120 --> 0:48:49.360 He's like, I haven't seen you in so long, thanks 0:48:49.360 --> 0:48:53.920 to your mother. But then while they're talking about his socks, 0:48:53.960 --> 0:48:56.000 a sasquatch crashes through the front door. 0:48:56.719 --> 0:49:01.840 Yep, broad daylight just does knock either, just bams. 0:49:02.360 --> 0:49:06.239 Splinters the door. So it's like, don't even bother locking up, 0:49:06.320 --> 0:49:09.919 it will do no good. The squash and knocks Bill 0:49:10.000 --> 0:49:12.799 to the floor. Bill lies there unconscious, and then the 0:49:12.840 --> 0:49:17.200 sasquatch just kills Julie, so we see her body dragged 0:49:17.239 --> 0:49:21.600 off with gashes across her face, eyes open. It seems 0:49:21.600 --> 0:49:23.560 to me like there might have been more tension if 0:49:23.600 --> 0:49:26.759 the audience thought she might still be alive somewhere. But no, 0:49:27.000 --> 0:49:30.080 the movie is like, there will be no suspense. Bigfoot 0:49:30.160 --> 0:49:30.600 killed her. 0:49:31.280 --> 0:49:34.040 Yeah, and I guess this is if I'm not understand correctly. 0:49:35.200 --> 0:49:38.200 The character of Bill here originally had no reason to 0:49:38.239 --> 0:49:40.480 really be in the picture. He's just old man in 0:49:40.480 --> 0:49:43.279 the woods hunting Bigfoot, and so they were like, we 0:49:43.520 --> 0:49:46.279 got to give him more. And so this is considerably 0:49:46.320 --> 0:49:49.480 more than was originally present, but still there's room for 0:49:49.520 --> 0:49:50.839 improvement if they had time. 0:49:51.280 --> 0:49:55.080 It does feel kind of like added on late. Yeah. Yeah, 0:49:55.120 --> 0:49:58.160 but one thing we were talking about off Mike is man, 0:49:58.200 --> 0:50:00.840 this movie gets right to business. I went back and 0:50:00.880 --> 0:50:04.480 I timed it. It is about ninety to one hundred 0:50:04.680 --> 0:50:08.520 seconds from the end of the credits until the characters 0:50:08.560 --> 0:50:10.960 who seem like they're going to be our main characters 0:50:11.080 --> 0:50:12.360 are attacked by Bigfoot. 0:50:12.600 --> 0:50:17.719 Yeah, so it's like Spaceship Bible versus yeah, Bigfoot attack. Yeah. 0:50:17.800 --> 0:50:20.480 This is all first five minutes of the movie. And 0:50:21.000 --> 0:50:23.640 the movie does not let you get a good look 0:50:23.680 --> 0:50:26.759 at Sasquatch in this scene, but it will also not 0:50:26.880 --> 0:50:29.360 make you wait very long for that, Like fifteen minutes 0:50:29.440 --> 0:50:31.359 later you're going to see full Sasquatch. 0:50:31.440 --> 0:50:31.959 That's right. 0:50:32.160 --> 0:50:35.080 So now we cut to the future and we're going 0:50:35.080 --> 0:50:37.799 to meet our new five main characters. This is our 0:50:37.840 --> 0:50:42.160 sasquatchean pin Tad. So there is Carrie and Jack they 0:50:42.160 --> 0:50:46.080 are a couple. There is Cindy and Fred, they're another couple. 0:50:46.440 --> 0:50:48.920 And then you've got Tom, who's a loner, a rebel, 0:50:49.640 --> 0:50:53.160 and these characters. So I alluded to this earlier, and 0:50:53.200 --> 0:50:56.160 now I wanted to explain a little bit more. They 0:50:56.640 --> 0:51:01.280 do not initially have a lot of distinctive individual traits, 0:51:01.560 --> 0:51:04.160 so it's kind of hard to tell them apart. And 0:51:04.200 --> 0:51:07.960 this becomes more complicated as the movie goes on because 0:51:08.080 --> 0:51:13.279 eventually some characteristics do come into focus on occasions, but 0:51:13.360 --> 0:51:19.200 they're not consistent across different scenes. So it felt almost 0:51:19.239 --> 0:51:22.040 like the actors were playing well, it's not just there 0:51:22.040 --> 0:51:23.680 in the acting, it's there in the writing too. It's 0:51:23.680 --> 0:51:28.040 like the characters were determined by a game of personality 0:51:28.160 --> 0:51:32.600 roulette that that starts with each scene. So what is 0:51:32.640 --> 0:51:36.040 my character like? Are they passive or assertive? Are they 0:51:36.200 --> 0:51:39.680 kind or cruel? Are they funny or serious? Are they 0:51:39.719 --> 0:51:43.719 brave or cowardly? Which other characters do they like or dislike? 0:51:44.200 --> 0:51:47.359 I would say literally all of these traits seem to 0:51:47.520 --> 0:51:51.120 shift between the five main characters somewhat at random. 0:51:51.640 --> 0:51:54.520 Yeah, and again, it's really hard to tell the male 0:51:54.600 --> 0:51:58.239 characters apart to the point where it's like, I'm really 0:51:58.280 --> 0:52:00.960 happy when the film starts mutilating them, so I have 0:52:01.040 --> 0:52:03.960 something to go on. Well, Cook, we're going to carve 0:52:03.960 --> 0:52:06.520 it down to basically just Jack, and then I'm like, Okay, 0:52:06.560 --> 0:52:08.440 thank god, there's just one of them to keep track of. 0:52:08.719 --> 0:52:11.680 Yeah, So I was trying to pick out which are 0:52:11.719 --> 0:52:14.440 the more consistent features. Most of the other things are 0:52:14.440 --> 0:52:15.840 going to kind of shift around, but there are a 0:52:15.880 --> 0:52:19.440 few things that are somewhat stable. One is that Fred 0:52:19.640 --> 0:52:24.600 is a kind of preppy jokester. Imagine another Fred character. 0:52:24.640 --> 0:52:27.680 He's kind of Fred from Scooby Doo, but more of 0:52:27.719 --> 0:52:30.640 a jerk and kind of a dash of frat boy prankster. 0:52:31.040 --> 0:52:31.520 Yeah. 0:52:31.600 --> 0:52:35.680 Yeah. And then a consistent thing about Jack is that 0:52:35.800 --> 0:52:38.920 Jack is haunted. He likes to stare into the distance, 0:52:40.040 --> 0:52:43.920 but beyond that he is wildly inconsistent, Like, is Jack 0:52:44.000 --> 0:52:49.520 a brave, sympathetic self sacrificing hero or is he a crazed, 0:52:49.640 --> 0:52:53.400 selfish lunatic who's kind of a captain ahab or is 0:52:53.440 --> 0:52:56.279 he just a spaced out weirdo it really he does 0:52:56.320 --> 0:52:56.960 all of these. 0:52:57.400 --> 0:53:00.120 Yeah, it really feels like the direction was and now 0:53:00.160 --> 0:53:02.080 you're an action hero, so I need you to put 0:53:02.120 --> 0:53:04.479 on the crazy eyes and start waving as many guns 0:53:04.520 --> 0:53:06.680 as you can hold it at a time. And this 0:53:07.000 --> 0:53:10.760 that's another thing about Jack. Jack shoots so many things 0:53:10.760 --> 0:53:14.839 and so many people and former humans he has. He 0:53:15.040 --> 0:53:16.319 does not hesitate at all. 0:53:16.800 --> 0:53:19.320 There is, in fact, a scene later in the movie 0:53:19.360 --> 0:53:22.520 when they're out some characters are walking in the woods 0:53:22.800 --> 0:53:24.839 and like a pine cone falls out of a tree 0:53:24.840 --> 0:53:27.320 and he just turns and shoots in the general direction 0:53:27.440 --> 0:53:28.080 of the sound. 0:53:28.640 --> 0:53:31.520 Yeah, which I think was done because they're like, he's 0:53:31.560 --> 0:53:34.520 an action hero, Like we're this is this is action schlog. 0:53:34.600 --> 0:53:36.799 That's what we need here. But if you analyze it 0:53:36.840 --> 0:53:39.000 even for a second, he does come off like an 0:53:39.080 --> 0:53:43.839 unhinged maniac that clearly endangered all of his friends on 0:53:43.880 --> 0:53:45.640 this mad quest for Squatch. 0:53:46.040 --> 0:53:49.000 So but it also doesn't make sense because you could 0:53:49.040 --> 0:53:56.480 have absorbed the mad quest stuff into the George Kennedy character. Yeah, right, 0:53:56.520 --> 0:53:58.319 because it makes sense for him to be on a 0:53:58.320 --> 0:53:58.759 mad quest. 0:53:58.840 --> 0:54:01.640 Now, what's why is Jack? What's his backstory? He like 0:54:02.080 --> 0:54:04.600 saw a bush move in the night once. That's about 0:54:04.640 --> 0:54:05.360 all we have to go on. 0:54:05.680 --> 0:54:09.719 Yeah, it doesn't make sense. The only thing that's really 0:54:09.719 --> 0:54:13.800 consistent about Tom is that he's supposed to be weird, 0:54:14.080 --> 0:54:17.160 I think, But the way in which he is weird 0:54:17.400 --> 0:54:22.920 is extremely variable. Sometimes he's kind of a pathetic, pervy dork. 0:54:23.560 --> 0:54:26.399 Other times he's kind of a rock and roll rebel. 0:54:26.640 --> 0:54:29.080 And then at the end of the movie spoiler, he 0:54:30.200 --> 0:54:33.040 gets killed and then he comes back as a zombie, 0:54:33.360 --> 0:54:36.520 but as a zombie for some reason, unlike all the 0:54:36.560 --> 0:54:39.880 other zombies, he can talk and he becomes Jack Nicholson. 0:54:40.640 --> 0:54:42.720 Well, we can decide to dice that we can dissect 0:54:42.760 --> 0:54:45.200 that later, because I think some zombies do get to 0:54:45.239 --> 0:54:49.560 talk for like administration purposes in the worship of their 0:54:49.600 --> 0:54:53.400 demon alien overlord. But yeah, I would say that the 0:54:53.440 --> 0:54:55.880 actor here really comes into his own at this point 0:54:55.880 --> 0:54:58.440 in the film, playing the speaking zombie. He has that 0:54:58.480 --> 0:55:01.520 grade line where he's like, I'm I'm ft, but I 0:55:01.560 --> 0:55:02.440 feel beautiful. 0:55:03.200 --> 0:55:06.080 He doesn't just say that, he says it as Jack Nicholson, 0:55:06.920 --> 0:55:12.880 I'm dead, I feel beautiful Jack. It's great and he 0:55:13.120 --> 0:55:15.359 doesn't talk like that at all earlier on. 0:55:17.040 --> 0:55:18.719 But uh so, I. 0:55:18.640 --> 0:55:22.480 Would say of the five of them, Tom, Jack, and 0:55:22.640 --> 0:55:27.080 Cindy are the most ruelettified of the personalities, and Fred 0:55:27.120 --> 0:55:31.080 and Carrie feel slightly more stable. But also those last 0:55:31.080 --> 0:55:35.320 two maybe have less total personality on display at all. 0:55:36.239 --> 0:55:36.759 I don't know. 0:55:38.760 --> 0:55:39.200 Anyway. 0:55:39.640 --> 0:55:39.879 Yeah. 0:55:39.920 --> 0:55:45.200 Oh, and it's funny also because sometimes Jack is doing 0:55:45.440 --> 0:55:48.440 he's doing the haunted thing, looking off off camera in 0:55:48.480 --> 0:55:50.479 the distance, like what is it, what's you know, what's 0:55:50.520 --> 0:55:54.120 haunting him? But he's wearing this hat that says Daiwah 0:55:54.320 --> 0:55:56.320 or Dewa, which is like a fishing brand. 0:55:56.440 --> 0:55:59.320 So yeah, I had I was like, what is Dewa 0:55:59.560 --> 0:56:02.920 daywah or whatever, But yeah, Japanese fishing, an outdoor hobby company. 0:56:03.200 --> 0:56:05.640 It's this I don't know, it's just this big logo. 0:56:05.760 --> 0:56:10.319 It's like imagining somebody being haunted in a hat that 0:56:10.320 --> 0:56:13.160 has a big Cabella's thing on it, you know. It 0:56:13.360 --> 0:56:14.799 just I don't know. 0:56:15.320 --> 0:56:18.400 The only place he's free is when he's fishing. Yeah. 0:56:18.440 --> 0:56:21.960 So they're all heading up the mountain road and this 0:56:22.000 --> 0:56:24.960 big Chevy Blazer. Fred is driving. Jack is in the 0:56:25.000 --> 0:56:28.680 passenger seat, Carrie, Cindy and Tom are in the back 0:56:29.280 --> 0:56:32.080 and on real I didn't catch this the first time, 0:56:32.120 --> 0:56:35.880 but on rewatch I was like, wait, why are Carrie 0:56:35.960 --> 0:56:39.720 and Cindy both in the back seat cuddling on Tom 0:56:39.880 --> 0:56:43.759 and playing with his hair and stuff? That is not 0:56:44.040 --> 0:56:47.120 congruent with their attitude toward him in later scenes at 0:56:47.160 --> 0:56:50.520 all Their boyfriends are in the front seat. They I 0:56:50.560 --> 0:56:53.239 don't know. It's like, it doesn't make any sense, and 0:56:53.280 --> 0:56:55.239 I can at this point I can stop noting these 0:56:55.239 --> 0:56:57.200 types of things because there are too many to list. 0:56:57.360 --> 0:56:59.640 Yeah, it's just too inconsistent. But yeah, this is when 0:56:59.680 --> 0:57:01.439 I first watched it, I was like, I guess it's 0:57:01.440 --> 0:57:04.840 a truple in the backseat. Yeah, two single guys or 0:57:04.880 --> 0:57:07.520 a couple in the front. I don't know. Yeah, none 0:57:07.560 --> 0:57:09.560 of this will be consistent with what we see later on. 0:57:09.680 --> 0:57:13.040 They're literally like snuggling him and like playing with his hair. 0:57:13.320 --> 0:57:13.520 Yeah. 0:57:15.239 --> 0:57:18.400 So the first thing we hear from Tom says, so, Jack, 0:57:18.560 --> 0:57:21.720 you ever see anything strange up here? Jack says, no, 0:57:22.080 --> 0:57:25.000 I've heard some things though, I've seen weird shapes moving 0:57:25.040 --> 0:57:25.960 around here in the night. 0:57:26.080 --> 0:57:27.920 Time, great backstory. 0:57:29.600 --> 0:57:33.880 Fred says, maybe it was bears. Cindy says, or deer 0:57:34.360 --> 0:57:37.320 like Bamby, and then she says it with this big 0:57:37.360 --> 0:57:40.240 grin like it means something like it's a dirty joke 0:57:40.400 --> 0:57:43.080 or something. But what's the significance of Bamby? 0:57:43.480 --> 0:57:43.880 I don't know. 0:57:44.320 --> 0:57:49.280 Yeah, does not come up again. Tom explains that these 0:57:49.280 --> 0:57:52.120 woods are known as the Demon Woods and they have 0:57:52.160 --> 0:57:55.760 a spooky reputation. He says that quote animals stay away 0:57:55.840 --> 0:58:00.560 in droves, and then we learn that Jack's uncle, Clem, 0:58:00.840 --> 0:58:03.520 owns a big part of the Demon Woods, and Jack 0:58:03.680 --> 0:58:05.720 used to come here camping when he was a kid. 0:58:06.200 --> 0:58:09.440 Then Clem built a cabin here and started renting it 0:58:09.480 --> 0:58:11.960 out to people. So I guess that's the cabin that 0:58:12.000 --> 0:58:13.320 they are headed for right now. 0:58:13.560 --> 0:58:15.360 They are ready for the country. 0:58:15.160 --> 0:58:18.880 Ready for the country, and it's time to go. So 0:58:19.040 --> 0:58:21.800 Carrie is like, oh, by the way, remember those people 0:58:21.840 --> 0:58:24.720 who were attacked when they were on vacation, just like us, 0:58:25.400 --> 0:58:27.880 And then Tom says these are the woods of hell 0:58:28.120 --> 0:58:31.520 Jack and Jack screams, no, they're not, and then everybody 0:58:31.600 --> 0:58:33.360 in the car starts screaming at each other. 0:58:34.720 --> 0:58:37.040 They're just having fun. They're just such a fun crew. 0:58:37.240 --> 0:58:48.800 Yes, So our heroes arrive at the cabin and they 0:58:48.840 --> 0:58:52.000 find the front door smashed to pieces. Inside, their stuff 0:58:52.080 --> 0:58:54.960 all over the floor. Pictures on the wall are hanging 0:58:55.040 --> 0:58:57.360 a skew. Somebody went through and a scuwed them. 0:58:58.000 --> 0:59:00.760 Vacation rentals were different in the eighties. You know, he 0:59:00.840 --> 0:59:05.560 didn't have like star reviews and so forth on the app. 0:59:05.600 --> 0:59:08.040 It was you might show up in a bigfoot had 0:59:08.120 --> 0:59:09.000 ransacked the place. 0:59:09.200 --> 0:59:11.280 Yeah, and I feel like there's like a John Candy 0:59:11.320 --> 0:59:12.440 movie about that or something. 0:59:12.760 --> 0:59:14.280 Oh yeah, yeah, the Great Outdoors. 0:59:14.960 --> 0:59:19.280 But does this mean that Uncle Clem double booked them 0:59:19.280 --> 0:59:22.200 with George Kennedy or no. 0:59:22.600 --> 0:59:25.040 I think as we'll see later, like George Kennedy had 0:59:25.040 --> 0:59:28.360 an earlier booking. But George Kennedy has not left the 0:59:28.400 --> 0:59:33.480 woods for sasquatch revenge purposes. Okay, maybe he just comes 0:59:33.560 --> 0:59:35.880 back to the cabin to use the restroom. I'm not sure. 0:59:36.280 --> 0:59:40.480 Yeah, So jack Jack is like, wow, vandals must have 0:59:40.560 --> 0:59:44.520 hit this place, kids or something. And there's a good 0:59:44.560 --> 0:59:48.160 boombox scene where Tom pulls a cassette deck out of 0:59:48.200 --> 0:59:50.120 the back of the car and he starts playing the 0:59:50.200 --> 0:59:52.720 rock music on it, and he's dancing, and we notice 0:59:52.720 --> 0:59:55.960 he's got some really good yanked my cord here. He's 0:59:56.000 --> 0:59:59.360 got some really good ripped jeans, not just in the knees, 0:59:59.400 --> 1:00:03.760 but the butcher a rip too. And so we learn 1:00:03.840 --> 1:00:06.760 that Jack has asked Tom to bring a bunch of 1:00:06.880 --> 1:00:11.080 electronic equipment with them. He's got long range listening devices 1:00:11.160 --> 1:00:14.560 and motion detectors and all kinds of stuff. Jack has 1:00:14.600 --> 1:00:18.120 also brought a bolt action rifle, which the characters repeatedly 1:00:18.160 --> 1:00:20.920 referred to as a shotgun. I am no gun expert. 1:00:20.960 --> 1:00:22.560 I don't know a lot about guns, but I know 1:00:22.640 --> 1:00:27.320 that's not a shotgun. Tom also has brought a big 1:00:27.320 --> 1:00:30.000 foot mask. Fred finds it and he decides he wants 1:00:30.000 --> 1:00:33.840 to use it to scare Cindy, but this gets interrupted 1:00:33.840 --> 1:00:37.040 when they have their first meeting with Bill crafton So 1:00:37.160 --> 1:00:41.240 George Kennedy's outside. He scares everybody by doing a warning 1:00:41.280 --> 1:00:43.840 shot on his rifle and they come out and he's 1:00:43.880 --> 1:00:46.720 this big guy standing there in overalls and the yellow hat, 1:00:47.120 --> 1:00:49.760 and he confronts the gang and tells them that there 1:00:49.800 --> 1:00:52.360 are bad things in these woods and they need to 1:00:52.400 --> 1:00:56.800 clear out. But while he's talking to them, Jack sneaks 1:00:56.880 --> 1:00:59.800 up behind him. Puts a pistol to his head and says, 1:00:59.840 --> 1:01:02.880 we know all about it, mister. So they take his 1:01:02.960 --> 1:01:07.600 gun and the tension sort of comes down. Kennedy introduces 1:01:07.680 --> 1:01:10.280 himself and tells the story of what happened to him. 1:01:10.640 --> 1:01:14.440 He doesn't tell the whole story. Actually, he vaguely alludes 1:01:14.480 --> 1:01:18.800 to something bad having happened, and oh, this is the 1:01:18.840 --> 1:01:20.760 part where he says, I should have remembered this. He 1:01:20.800 --> 1:01:25.680 says that it was a few months ago. So then Jack, 1:01:25.760 --> 1:01:28.040 Then it gets weirder because Jack says, I heard you 1:01:28.120 --> 1:01:31.120 barely made it out alive. Mister Crafton, why did you 1:01:31.160 --> 1:01:33.520 come back? It's like, wait, so he knows the story. 1:01:34.040 --> 1:01:36.000 Yeah, I guess it's all over the local papers. 1:01:36.120 --> 1:01:39.080 So Crafton says, well, there's a thing out here. It 1:01:39.160 --> 1:01:41.960 took my little girl, and I wasn't prepared to stop 1:01:42.000 --> 1:01:44.760 it then, but I'm going to stop it now. And 1:01:45.240 --> 1:01:48.040 he says that They ask why he didn't tell the police. 1:01:48.080 --> 1:01:50.439 He says he tried to tell them, but they think 1:01:50.440 --> 1:01:52.919 it was just a wild animal. And then Cindy says, 1:01:52.960 --> 1:01:57.480 there's no wildlife up here in the woods? Are there 1:01:57.480 --> 1:01:58.800 woods with no wildlife? 1:01:58.800 --> 1:02:02.160 It stays away and drug remember or it's like the 1:02:02.880 --> 1:02:05.280 you know, the it's like the Wilderness and Alien Covenant. 1:02:05.280 --> 1:02:06.720 That one also had no wildlife. 1:02:07.600 --> 1:02:11.800 Yeah. So he tries to order them to get back 1:02:11.800 --> 1:02:13.720 in their truck and go home, but they won't listen, 1:02:13.800 --> 1:02:16.800 so he heads off into the woods. Later that night, 1:02:16.840 --> 1:02:19.200 there is a scene at the kitchen table where everybody 1:02:19.240 --> 1:02:22.480 is gathered around and Jack explains to them. This is 1:02:22.520 --> 1:02:24.919 the part where he reveals that he lured them all 1:02:25.000 --> 1:02:26.800 out here to the woods on the promise of a 1:02:26.840 --> 1:02:29.520 weekend to get away, but in reality he wants their 1:02:29.560 --> 1:02:33.520 help to hunt bigfoot. Everybody has that friend, you. 1:02:33.480 --> 1:02:38.400 Know, Yeah, and yeah, everyone loves to be manipulated into 1:02:38.440 --> 1:02:39.400 a vacation like this. 1:02:39.640 --> 1:02:41.840 Yeah, let me take you out to lunch. Actually, you're 1:02:41.840 --> 1:02:42.480 helping me move. 1:02:42.800 --> 1:02:45.480 Yeah. What are the hikes like here? No hikes, just 1:02:45.560 --> 1:02:46.440 bigfoot tracking. 1:02:47.280 --> 1:02:51.200 So he explains that Klem, his uncle who owns this place, 1:02:51.240 --> 1:02:55.800 has actually disappeared, and Jack has been tracking reports of 1:02:55.920 --> 1:03:02.480 bigfoot attacks, strange sightings, or other disappearances. Quo, I marked everything, everything, 1:03:02.840 --> 1:03:06.360 no matter how unbelievable it sounded. And then he unfurls 1:03:06.400 --> 1:03:11.440 this map that has like five x's on it. Yeah, 1:03:11.480 --> 1:03:14.120 he's also got a bunch of newspaper clippings and stuff. 1:03:14.240 --> 1:03:16.720 Yeah. One of them just says those evil interests, which 1:03:16.840 --> 1:03:18.600 I was wondering if this might be a weekly column. 1:03:18.640 --> 1:03:21.760 I don't know, I wonder if it's a financial column. 1:03:21.800 --> 1:03:25.000 But interest rates those evil interests. Yes. 1:03:25.560 --> 1:03:28.360 So anyway, the thing is everything points to these woods, 1:03:28.400 --> 1:03:30.560 and he needs his friends to help him find Uncle 1:03:30.600 --> 1:03:35.080 Clem and solve the mystery of bigfoot. And so his 1:03:35.120 --> 1:03:37.040 friends kind of make fun of him for a minute, 1:03:37.080 --> 1:03:39.240 but then Tom says, you know, Jack, I don't know 1:03:39.280 --> 1:03:43.000 about any bigfoots, but we're in man. It's like, that's 1:03:43.000 --> 1:03:45.760 what friends are for. Also in this scene, we have 1:03:45.880 --> 1:03:49.920 Chekhov's watch alarm. Tom's watch makes a weird little beeping 1:03:49.960 --> 1:03:52.480 sound and everyone looks at it and they're like, I'm 1:03:52.480 --> 1:03:55.800 making a mental note of that. I'll recognize that sound 1:03:55.880 --> 1:03:59.600 later if I hear it. Another thing I wanted to 1:03:59.600 --> 1:04:02.960 point out in the scene is that Jack kind of 1:04:03.000 --> 1:04:08.000 does a reverse She's all that here, So the trope 1:04:08.040 --> 1:04:11.040 from these high school movies like She's all that is 1:04:11.440 --> 1:04:13.960 the girl, the nerdy girl with the glasses takes the 1:04:13.960 --> 1:04:18.080 glasses off and everyone discovers she's cool and beautiful, Jack 1:04:18.360 --> 1:04:22.280 arrives seeming like a cool hunk, but in this scene 1:04:22.320 --> 1:04:26.160 he puts glasses on and he becomes a weird nerd 1:04:26.240 --> 1:04:28.840 who everybody is making fun of. Did you realize that? 1:04:28.960 --> 1:04:29.960 Yeah, that's a good point. 1:04:31.960 --> 1:04:34.440 So there are some other general goings on at the 1:04:34.440 --> 1:04:36.640 cabin that There is a love scene with Jack and 1:04:36.720 --> 1:04:40.800 Carry which Tom uses the electronic squatch hunting equipment to 1:04:40.840 --> 1:04:44.680 spy on. There is a gorilla mask prank scene, but 1:04:44.840 --> 1:04:47.480 it all leads up to the first big squatch attack. 1:04:47.960 --> 1:04:51.360 So while Fred is locked outside with a gorilla mask, 1:04:51.760 --> 1:04:55.480 the fog machine flares up and a shadow passes over him. 1:04:55.560 --> 1:04:58.920 We know something's about to happen. A hairy thing is 1:04:58.920 --> 1:05:02.800 creeping into frame and then Fred disappears, so the remaining 1:05:02.840 --> 1:05:05.320 friends go outside to look for him, but there's no 1:05:05.360 --> 1:05:07.760 sign of him. They find the car with the hood 1:05:07.800 --> 1:05:12.280 popped open, and they realize that the engine has been destroyed. So, oh, 1:05:12.480 --> 1:05:13.400 can't go back home? 1:05:13.600 --> 1:05:15.919 Yeah, how can I do this? It's just an animal, right. 1:05:16.280 --> 1:05:19.280 Then they retreat inside the house and they put a 1:05:19.280 --> 1:05:22.080 big board over the front door. But what's the board 1:05:22.120 --> 1:05:24.360 going to do? It smashed the door to pieces and 1:05:24.440 --> 1:05:27.760 it just knocks the board in runs inside and starts 1:05:27.880 --> 1:05:29.040 roaring and kind of saying. 1:05:29.080 --> 1:05:34.680 Oh. Now we begin to get to see the Beakler 1:05:34.800 --> 1:05:38.960 squatch suit in a lot more detail here, And I 1:05:39.040 --> 1:05:41.920 really loved the look of the sad squatch. Here. You 1:05:41.960 --> 1:05:46.120 get your standard issue bigfoot body, some really great hands 1:05:46.120 --> 1:05:49.200 and feet, But then the face of the bigfoot is 1:05:49.240 --> 1:05:52.800 really nice. It's kind of like snarling evil, a ring 1:05:52.880 --> 1:05:56.640 atang kind of caveman face, but in a really cool way. 1:05:56.920 --> 1:05:59.880 I'm really struggling to think of a better savage squatch design. 1:06:00.640 --> 1:06:05.720 It's sasquatch, but it has a skull face, deeply sunken eyes, 1:06:05.920 --> 1:06:08.440 like really, you don't even see eyeballs at all, the 1:06:08.480 --> 1:06:10.800 sunken eyes or just sockets almost. 1:06:11.120 --> 1:06:14.160 Yeah, and especially in the close ups, great manipulation of 1:06:14.160 --> 1:06:16.959 the lips around these gnarly teeth. 1:06:16.760 --> 1:06:20.959 Yeah, but not sharp teeth, human like teeth, but creepy teeth. 1:06:21.000 --> 1:06:24.120 Yeah. But he's always like snarling and sneering. This is 1:06:24.160 --> 1:06:26.320 a squatch with bad intentions. 1:06:26.560 --> 1:06:29.880 Yeah. So what does Bigfoot do here? Well, he kills Tom. 1:06:30.640 --> 1:06:33.920 Later we will see squatch rip people's heads off, but 1:06:34.000 --> 1:06:37.160 here he doesn't fully rip the head off. He just 1:06:37.360 --> 1:06:39.400 kind of lifts and twists the head. 1:06:39.480 --> 1:06:41.200 Yeah. I mean, he's got the technique down, but I 1:06:41.200 --> 1:06:42.760 think it's one of those things where it's always like 1:06:42.800 --> 1:06:44.680 fifty to fifty weather you're going to actually pull the 1:06:44.720 --> 1:06:45.440 head off, you know. 1:06:47.160 --> 1:06:50.960 The main object of Squatch's interest here seems to be 1:06:51.040 --> 1:06:55.520 Jack's electronic monitoring equipment. So he picks it up and 1:06:55.560 --> 1:06:58.880 he takes it away with him, and then before he leaves, 1:06:58.920 --> 1:07:01.800 he has this moment with Jack, like they make eyes 1:07:01.840 --> 1:07:04.320 at each other. They both stop and look, and Jack's 1:07:04.360 --> 1:07:07.680 like pointing a gun at Sasquatch, but he can't bring 1:07:07.760 --> 1:07:10.240 himself to pull the trigger. What's going on? 1:07:11.200 --> 1:07:14.200 In some Squatch movies this would have happened because our 1:07:14.680 --> 1:07:18.360 protagonist comes to see the true gentle or noble Squatch, right, 1:07:19.040 --> 1:07:22.880 but the demon warp Squatch has no such dimensions. This 1:07:23.000 --> 1:07:26.240 might be just a senseless moment between these two, but 1:07:26.360 --> 1:07:29.040 it might loosely connect to something that will happen later. 1:07:29.120 --> 1:07:30.760 I think maybe that is what they're getting at. 1:07:30.840 --> 1:07:33.880 Yeah, I think it's that he Yeah, so it will 1:07:33.880 --> 1:07:36.800 come up later that these Squatches again, it's invasion of 1:07:36.840 --> 1:07:40.280 the body Squatchers. So these Squatches are in fact people, 1:07:40.440 --> 1:07:43.080 and this is a squatch made from a person who 1:07:43.240 --> 1:07:44.280 Jack actually knows. 1:07:44.640 --> 1:07:48.120 Yeah, but are we to imply here that Jack recognizes 1:07:48.400 --> 1:07:50.920 this person in the squatch? Yeah, surely not. 1:07:51.200 --> 1:07:54.640 They all just look like the same squatch. Yeah, there 1:07:54.640 --> 1:07:57.880 are no traces of the original human form left. 1:07:58.640 --> 1:08:01.520 And for the Sasquatches part, he's just glad to make 1:08:01.600 --> 1:08:03.320 up with some electronic equipment. 1:08:03.560 --> 1:08:07.600 I just wanted this circuit board. Yeah. But also here 1:08:07.680 --> 1:08:10.440 there is a scene of Jack steering into the camera 1:08:10.640 --> 1:08:14.120 with his face turned down making demon eyes like that 1:08:14.200 --> 1:08:15.720 shot in the Shining. 1:08:15.440 --> 1:08:20.439 Mm hmm, Okay, Yeah, I mean I'm guessing here, but 1:08:20.680 --> 1:08:22.840 I think they just really wanted him to come off 1:08:22.920 --> 1:08:26.400 like total action hero mode here, you know, like he's 1:08:28.280 --> 1:08:30.200 but in a way that ends up making him look 1:08:30.280 --> 1:08:31.840 like a maniac. Yeah. 1:08:31.920 --> 1:08:34.280 I don't know if I buy that explanation on this part, 1:08:34.320 --> 1:08:37.559 because he just it seems so overtly like he's supposed 1:08:37.560 --> 1:08:39.120 to look like like psychotic. 1:08:39.640 --> 1:08:42.720 Yeah, but for what purpose, Like it doesn't know, what 1:08:42.720 --> 1:08:45.320 purpose does it serve in the narrative. I think it's 1:08:45.360 --> 1:08:48.160 just rule of cool yea coming first here. 1:08:48.680 --> 1:08:51.200 It would it would make more sense if they're setting 1:08:51.240 --> 1:08:53.920 it up, setting it up to be that Oh no, 1:08:54.760 --> 1:08:58.880 Jack is being like hypnotized or possessed to buy Sasquatch 1:08:58.920 --> 1:08:59.479 in some way. 1:08:59.720 --> 1:09:02.439 Yeah, we were going to do like a face turn 1:09:02.520 --> 1:09:05.719 where oh, savage Squatch is actually noble squatch and humans 1:09:05.760 --> 1:09:08.080 are the real monster. Yeah, well that would work too, 1:09:08.120 --> 1:09:09.400 but we're not going on that tretch. 1:09:09.640 --> 1:09:12.519 It doesn't do anything. Yeah, so I this never turns 1:09:12.560 --> 1:09:15.479 into anything. He's just making weird faces at the camera 1:09:15.560 --> 1:09:18.720 when no one's looking. Yea, and nothing happens with that. 1:09:18.960 --> 1:09:21.120 And this is where he falls asleep with guns in 1:09:21.120 --> 1:09:22.599 each hand, right and yeah. 1:09:22.920 --> 1:09:26.559 Yeah, So the next day, now we're entering the middle 1:09:26.600 --> 1:09:28.879 third of the movie, which is about wandering in the woods. 1:09:29.360 --> 1:09:32.080 The next day, the car is wrecked. Tom is dead, 1:09:32.160 --> 1:09:35.800 but his body goes missing, and Fred is missing too, 1:09:36.080 --> 1:09:39.200 and he was already missing, but now Tom's body has 1:09:39.200 --> 1:09:43.599 additionally gone missing, and Jack arms carry with a gun 1:09:43.760 --> 1:09:48.040 and Cindy with a small knife, and Cindy doesn't seem 1:09:48.080 --> 1:09:48.600 bothered by this. 1:09:48.880 --> 1:09:51.040 She's like, Cindy, you good with that knife, and she's like, yeah, 1:09:51.040 --> 1:09:52.840 I'm ready to go, Like I'm gonna take on a 1:09:52.880 --> 1:09:56.080 sasquat eight foot tall sas squatch, but I've got a 1:09:56.080 --> 1:09:56.919 pocket knife. 1:09:57.000 --> 1:09:59.720 And she will. There's a scene where she jumps into 1:09:59.760 --> 1:10:01.440 the front lines against the Sasquatch. 1:10:01.520 --> 1:10:01.680 Yeah. 1:10:01.760 --> 1:10:04.479 Yeah, but they're gonna hike out of the woods and 1:10:04.520 --> 1:10:08.000 seek help for They explain the reasons for this, but 1:10:08.040 --> 1:10:11.559 I didn't understand what they were saying. For whatever reason 1:10:11.600 --> 1:10:14.040 it is, they're not going to follow the road they 1:10:14.120 --> 1:10:16.400 drove in on that They're sort of like, there have 1:10:16.479 --> 1:10:20.760 been sightings of Squatch there, you know that Squatch's road now, 1:10:20.840 --> 1:10:21.920 so we can't take it. 1:10:22.560 --> 1:10:23.559 All, right, fair enough? 1:10:23.920 --> 1:10:28.160 Yeah? He also and at this point Jack is concealing 1:10:28.240 --> 1:10:30.960 from Carrie and Cindy the fact that Tom's body has 1:10:30.960 --> 1:10:34.720 gone missing. So we also this is where we meet 1:10:34.720 --> 1:10:37.800 the new characters, you know, the people who show up 1:10:38.120 --> 1:10:40.400 randomly in the woods about a third of the way 1:10:40.520 --> 1:10:42.960 through the movie to crank up the body count. We've 1:10:43.000 --> 1:10:46.280 got a random hiker with a camera. He just keeps 1:10:46.320 --> 1:10:48.559 hiking around. We check in with him every now and then, 1:10:48.640 --> 1:10:51.200 but he's just walking around in the woods until he 1:10:51.240 --> 1:10:53.600 gets caught in a bear trap and then stabbed in 1:10:53.640 --> 1:10:57.479 the stomach with a stick by Bigfoot. And also before this, 1:10:57.600 --> 1:11:00.360 he runs into a zombie, just a human zombie, just. 1:11:00.320 --> 1:11:05.960 A zombie wandering through the southern California wilderness. We'll find 1:11:05.960 --> 1:11:08.600 out more about this soon, but when it happens, you're like, 1:11:08.640 --> 1:11:13.200 what the Maybe this was another film that was in 1:11:13.240 --> 1:11:14.759 production just over the horizon. 1:11:15.120 --> 1:11:18.679 The other characters we meet are the fun girls Betsy 1:11:18.720 --> 1:11:21.240 and Tara. They're driving the mountain roads in a jeep 1:11:21.760 --> 1:11:25.120 blasting classic rock, getting up to no good. They're slamming 1:11:25.160 --> 1:11:28.640 some cores and Betsy is telling a story about a 1:11:29.920 --> 1:11:33.640 guy she dated who thought she was asleep in the 1:11:33.720 --> 1:11:36.439 car on the way home and was picking his nose 1:11:36.479 --> 1:11:38.639 and she caught him picking his nose and she starts 1:11:38.680 --> 1:11:42.400 talking about whether his brain was itching. And their plan 1:11:42.520 --> 1:11:45.200 is to go again to this illegal cannabis grove site, 1:11:45.360 --> 1:11:47.960 which they call the Secret Garden. They're going to steal 1:11:48.040 --> 1:11:50.280 some stuff from there, but when they get there, it's 1:11:50.320 --> 1:11:54.320 all gone. Somebody took it all already. And then Betsy says, well, 1:11:54.360 --> 1:11:57.040 we came all this way, might as well get a tan, right, 1:11:57.280 --> 1:12:01.360 and takes her shirt off. But while they're tanning, they 1:12:01.400 --> 1:12:05.080 are attacked by sasquatch. Tara gets her head pulled right 1:12:05.120 --> 1:12:07.960 off and Betsy runs screaming away into the woods and 1:12:08.000 --> 1:12:10.320 she's going to meet up with our main characters later. 1:12:10.479 --> 1:12:12.720 We never find out what happened to the marijuana. Do 1:12:13.280 --> 1:12:15.879 we think the Sasquatch took the marijuana? Oh? 1:12:16.120 --> 1:12:19.799 Maybe, maybe We're going to find out that a certain 1:12:19.880 --> 1:12:22.879 Asdath was going to take it back to his heavenly abode. 1:12:22.960 --> 1:12:24.160 There you go, There you go. 1:12:25.320 --> 1:12:30.360 As for the three remaining characters from our original five characters, 1:12:30.400 --> 1:12:32.320 through the middle of the movie, they do just a 1:12:32.320 --> 1:12:36.679 lot of walking around and having weird interactions that don't 1:12:36.680 --> 1:12:39.880 connect to anything else. Like one thing I did want 1:12:39.880 --> 1:12:42.160 to flag is through this whole stretch of the film, 1:12:42.240 --> 1:12:46.560 across multiple scenes, Jack keeps holding his rifle in a 1:12:46.640 --> 1:12:49.839 resting position where it is fully pointed at his friends. 1:12:50.920 --> 1:12:53.120 And it's not like he's holding them up or something. 1:12:53.160 --> 1:12:57.000 They're just not practicing gun safety at all. So like 1:12:57.080 --> 1:12:59.599 Cindy is walking behind him and he's got the guns 1:12:59.680 --> 1:13:03.840 slung over his shoulder just pointed at her head. Also, 1:13:04.400 --> 1:13:09.400 random conflicts and character dynamics arise that did not previously 1:13:09.479 --> 1:13:13.080 exist and do not continue later. Examples of this are 1:13:13.800 --> 1:13:16.880 Jack and Cindy at each other's throats, like screaming at 1:13:16.920 --> 1:13:19.880 each other about stuff. But then also little moments like 1:13:19.880 --> 1:13:20.879 they're going to kiss. 1:13:21.439 --> 1:13:25.760 Yeah, okay, yeah, what possible purpose does that serve? Here? 1:13:25.800 --> 1:13:30.760 Hunter, Jack, Cindy, and Carrie find booby traps all over 1:13:30.800 --> 1:13:33.880 the woods. There are these big steel bear traps and 1:13:33.920 --> 1:13:37.320 then trip wires rigged with dynamite, and they trace these 1:13:37.360 --> 1:13:39.880 traps back to a camp site, which is the camp 1:13:39.960 --> 1:13:43.280 of none other than Bill crafton George Kennedy from earlier. 1:13:44.680 --> 1:13:47.320 This is the place where there's that standoff scene that's 1:13:47.360 --> 1:13:50.000 almost a repeat of the first scene where they met, 1:13:51.000 --> 1:13:54.880 but here Bill has a beeping digital watch and it's like, 1:13:54.920 --> 1:13:59.240 wait a minute, remember that sound. That's Tom's watch. So 1:13:59.479 --> 1:14:03.000 Jack arches Bill into his camp at gunpoint, and they're 1:14:03.000 --> 1:14:05.960 trying to find out did he kill Tom? But I 1:14:06.040 --> 1:14:08.200 was just thinking, like, they know he didn't kill Tom. 1:14:08.280 --> 1:14:12.560 They saw bigfoot kill Tom. Yeah, maybe they think he 1:14:13.240 --> 1:14:16.880 took Tom's body or something, but I don't know. So 1:14:17.080 --> 1:14:19.519 Bill just he explains that he found the watch in 1:14:19.560 --> 1:14:22.320 the woods, and then he pleads his case. He says 1:14:22.360 --> 1:14:25.559 that he wants to avenge, avenge his daughter and kill 1:14:25.680 --> 1:14:28.360 this thing, and that he's been out here for a week. 1:14:28.439 --> 1:14:29.880 This is the part where he says, I wear this 1:14:29.920 --> 1:14:32.519 well yellow hat. So it's easier for the thing to 1:14:32.560 --> 1:14:36.720 see me because I want this fight. Also, somewhere in here, 1:14:36.880 --> 1:14:41.680 there's a scene where Bigfoot disarms dynamite tripwires, and so 1:14:41.920 --> 1:14:44.439 that's kind of strange. It's like, wait a minute, Bigfoot 1:14:44.520 --> 1:14:47.639 has the technological know how to disarm a trigger trap. 1:14:47.960 --> 1:14:51.880 Well, we saw him like steal an amp or something earlier. Yeah, 1:14:52.040 --> 1:14:53.320 there's something going on here. 1:14:54.200 --> 1:14:57.479 Bigfoots he's starting a career as a sound guy at 1:14:57.479 --> 1:15:03.280 the Woods venue. So Bill and Jack here compare notes 1:15:03.320 --> 1:15:07.280 on Bigfoot. Jack explains that moment of recognition he had 1:15:07.320 --> 1:15:11.640 with Bigfoot, and also he explains that it stole some 1:15:11.680 --> 1:15:15.000 of his electronic equipment, and Bill is like, I just 1:15:15.040 --> 1:15:19.120 have a feeling that killing isn't its only motive. What 1:15:19.160 --> 1:15:21.519 could this be? But before they can hash it out, 1:15:21.600 --> 1:15:26.280 Squatch attacks the camp. Several humans have guns, but for 1:15:26.320 --> 1:15:29.599 some reason, Cindy runs in to attack it at close 1:15:29.680 --> 1:15:32.200 range with her three inch knife so they can't shoot 1:15:32.200 --> 1:15:36.599 at it. Jack and Cindy get knocked out. Carrie shoots 1:15:36.600 --> 1:15:40.639 at sasquatch. Bill grabs an axe and lures it away 1:15:40.640 --> 1:15:43.960 from camp like it chases him and eventually it smashes 1:15:44.000 --> 1:15:46.880 his head. So goodbye, goodbye Bill crafton. 1:15:46.720 --> 1:15:48.920 You know, and I was sure, like, this is our lead. 1:15:49.080 --> 1:15:51.760 I thought, Okay, he's actually just knocked unconscious and he's 1:15:51.760 --> 1:15:54.120 going to come back at the last minute and help 1:15:54.160 --> 1:15:57.599 save the day once our main characters get into a jam. 1:15:58.120 --> 1:16:00.360 But no, no, he's really dead. He's not coming back. 1:16:00.800 --> 1:16:04.280 Unfortunately, he's not our lead. Unfortunately Jack is our lead. 1:16:04.520 --> 1:16:04.760 Yeah. 1:16:04.920 --> 1:16:17.679 Yeah, So Jack wakes up alone in camp. He arms 1:16:17.720 --> 1:16:19.880 himself with a pistol and some dynamite, and then he 1:16:19.960 --> 1:16:24.080 leaves and he crosses paths in the woods with Cindy. 1:16:24.320 --> 1:16:28.240 But she's acting weird. Her back is turned and she's 1:16:28.360 --> 1:16:32.120 walking strangely, and when he finally catches up to her 1:16:32.280 --> 1:16:35.639 and turns her around, half of her face is warped. 1:16:35.880 --> 1:16:39.040 There's your demon warp. It's warped bizarrely, like her eyeball 1:16:39.160 --> 1:16:42.559 is hanging out of the socket and it's just all 1:16:42.640 --> 1:16:46.519 messed up. And then she walks, as if in a trance, 1:16:46.640 --> 1:16:49.360 into the mouth of a nearby cave and Jack follows, 1:16:49.800 --> 1:16:52.360 and this goes to the final act. In the cave, 1:16:52.960 --> 1:16:55.759 this is where things start going off the rails. 1:16:56.240 --> 1:16:59.880 Yeah, yeah, this is everything has been entertaining up up 1:17:00.040 --> 1:17:01.439 up into this point, but now it's going to go 1:17:01.439 --> 1:17:04.320 into overdrive and we get all these weird elements we've 1:17:04.320 --> 1:17:07.640 been alluding to when we enter into that cave. And 1:17:07.680 --> 1:17:11.040 if that cave exterior looks familiar, that's because this movie, 1:17:11.240 --> 1:17:15.800 like so many films that b movies that shot in 1:17:15.840 --> 1:17:20.280 southern California, it shot in Bronze and Canyon and those 1:17:20.280 --> 1:17:22.559 different caves. This used to be a quarry, and the 1:17:22.600 --> 1:17:26.080 work there left behind multiple caves and tunnels, caves and 1:17:26.080 --> 1:17:29.280 tunnels that are just asking for various aliens to crawl 1:17:29.360 --> 1:17:30.519 in or out of them. 1:17:30.840 --> 1:17:33.559 Is this the cave that's in It conquered the world? 1:17:33.800 --> 1:17:36.000 Yes, well, I don't know if it's the exact cave. 1:17:36.040 --> 1:17:38.320 I was comparing photos and I don't know. There are 1:17:38.400 --> 1:17:41.760 multiple caves there that cave entrances and tunnel entrances that 1:17:41.760 --> 1:17:44.080 have been used. But yeah, it conquered the world. I 1:17:44.080 --> 1:17:46.679 think Robot Monster, tons of films. 1:17:47.360 --> 1:17:50.280 So this is when all hell breaks loose. So Jack 1:17:50.320 --> 1:17:52.720 goes into the cave and he's confronted by a bigfoot. 1:17:53.160 --> 1:17:56.080 He shoots it, but once it is mortally wounded, it 1:17:56.160 --> 1:18:00.640 starts transforming. Yeah, it's a reverse werewolf transformed where the 1:18:00.680 --> 1:18:04.160 hair starts kind of sucking in and disappearing, and the 1:18:04.200 --> 1:18:07.000 skin set. The skin is first bubbling and boiling, and 1:18:07.040 --> 1:18:10.160 then it settles down and it's a man. Why it's 1:18:10.320 --> 1:18:13.600 Jack's uncle Clem. Uncle Clem was a sasquatch. 1:18:13.600 --> 1:18:17.360 All yeah, And this is again the point where you're 1:18:17.400 --> 1:18:20.280 just like, what is happening? Where are we going with 1:18:20.360 --> 1:18:20.960 this movie? 1:18:21.920 --> 1:18:24.719 Uncle Clem said, he's sobbing. He says, Jack, I didn't 1:18:24.760 --> 1:18:27.920 want to hurt you. They made me, they changed me. 1:18:28.160 --> 1:18:31.240 And then he dies. And then further in the cave 1:18:31.360 --> 1:18:34.880 we see electronic equipment and dead body parts everywhere. It's 1:18:34.920 --> 1:18:37.800 a combination slaughterhouse and radio shat. 1:18:37.760 --> 1:18:38.400 Yeah it is. 1:18:38.640 --> 1:18:41.759 And then further in the cave we get zombies everywhere, 1:18:41.800 --> 1:18:46.400 tons of them, not bigfoot, just various kinds of shambling undead, 1:18:46.920 --> 1:18:50.360 many of which are carrying or working on circuit boards 1:18:50.400 --> 1:18:51.639 and electrical panels. 1:18:52.240 --> 1:18:53.960 Yeah, and one of them has what is it other 1:18:54.040 --> 1:18:56.120 resident shirt? He's got a ban shirt. 1:18:56.680 --> 1:18:58.760 Really good, cool, cool classic band tea. 1:18:59.080 --> 1:19:00.479 Yeah, I had to look it up. They'll cost you 1:19:00.479 --> 1:19:05.040 a couple hundred bucks on eBay. What condition though, Oh, 1:19:05.080 --> 1:19:06.600 I would hope, I mean, you don't want it? And 1:19:06.720 --> 1:19:09.719 meant right, it's got to be a little little funky. Otherwise, 1:19:09.720 --> 1:19:10.400 what are you paying for? 1:19:10.680 --> 1:19:15.200 I need some oil stains. Yeah. So Jack finds Fred 1:19:15.320 --> 1:19:17.519 in the cave. Remember Fred, the preppy guy. 1:19:17.640 --> 1:19:18.880 Yeah, yeah, I thought he was dead. 1:19:19.160 --> 1:19:22.320 He's alive and he's wearing his gorilla mask. He's injured 1:19:22.360 --> 1:19:25.479 and tied up on the cave floor. Fred tells Jack 1:19:25.600 --> 1:19:29.200 they've got Carrie inside the craft and he's like, what 1:19:29.400 --> 1:19:32.880 the craft? What's that? What's he talking about? And Fred 1:19:32.920 --> 1:19:36.280 says it's this thing, this priest. He wants to use 1:19:36.400 --> 1:19:39.920 her and another girl, and so Fred tells Jack to 1:19:39.960 --> 1:19:42.760 go on and get out of here. Jack tries to 1:19:42.800 --> 1:19:46.000 go inside the craft, which is this metal door behind 1:19:46.080 --> 1:19:48.280 them in the cave, but he gets blocked at the 1:19:48.320 --> 1:19:52.760 door by zombie Tom. Remember this is Tom, the rock 1:19:52.800 --> 1:19:56.080 and roll radio geek from earlier. Now he's a zombie, 1:19:56.120 --> 1:19:59.439 but unlike the other zombies, he talks and this is 1:19:59.479 --> 1:20:01.960 the part where he has turned into Jack Nicholson. So 1:20:02.000 --> 1:20:05.880 he's like, yeah, Jack, I'm dead, You're still alive. But 1:20:06.080 --> 1:20:11.280 I feel beautiful, man. You know these are my friends Jack, 1:20:12.120 --> 1:20:13.240 And he's like. 1:20:13.200 --> 1:20:16.080 They're good people and the zombies are just kind of 1:20:16.439 --> 1:20:18.479 hanging out behind him. And then again the zombies look 1:20:18.479 --> 1:20:18.960 pretty cool. 1:20:19.200 --> 1:20:22.760 What is all this about? I don't know, but so yeah, 1:20:22.920 --> 1:20:27.360 and then also we see some maintenance going on where 1:20:27.920 --> 1:20:31.960 the zombies are now working on a spaceship. You see 1:20:32.000 --> 1:20:36.519 them screwing in greebles to a to a gray spray 1:20:36.560 --> 1:20:38.320 painted piece of cardboard. 1:20:38.960 --> 1:20:41.679 Yeah, yeah, it's like needs more greebels, more greebels. 1:20:41.680 --> 1:20:45.639 Here solo cups and yeah, just I don't know, various 1:20:45.680 --> 1:20:49.799 little dude ads going up on the wall. And here's 1:20:49.840 --> 1:20:53.080 where we're finally gonna have well, all will be revealed. 1:20:53.400 --> 1:20:54.200 What is it. 1:20:54.200 --> 1:20:57.400 It's we're gonna go watch a human sacrifice for an 1:20:57.439 --> 1:20:58.760 alien named Asdrath. 1:20:59.320 --> 1:21:02.720 Yes, yeah, and we're meeting our our priest friend the 1:21:02.760 --> 1:21:07.680 Padre from earlier, except now he is an undead speaking 1:21:08.479 --> 1:21:11.479 He's an undead priest with the ability to speak, who 1:21:11.560 --> 1:21:18.280 is serving this alien overlord Asidrath, wearing the black occultist robe. 1:21:18.360 --> 1:21:21.040 Like we're in just straight up dungeons and dragon's territory 1:21:21.040 --> 1:21:22.120 at this point. I love it. 1:21:22.200 --> 1:21:25.200 So you took him to be a zombie at this point. 1:21:25.320 --> 1:21:28.360 I guess so, because he's over one hundred years old. 1:21:28.439 --> 1:21:30.720 Now, yeah, I guess I was just thinking he had 1:21:30.720 --> 1:21:32.320 a magically prolonged life. 1:21:32.360 --> 1:21:34.800 But well, maybe maybe that's it, but not prolonged in 1:21:34.840 --> 1:21:39.839 a very good way. That could be the distinction. Speaking 1:21:39.960 --> 1:21:43.519 zombies are actually they are, Actually they haven't died all 1:21:43.520 --> 1:21:47.559 the way yet. Maybe they're just artificially sustained in a 1:21:47.680 --> 1:21:49.559 very nasty way. 1:21:50.640 --> 1:21:55.599 So this guy has the character Betsy tied to the table, 1:21:55.920 --> 1:21:58.120 and she's going to be a human sacrifice. He's got 1:21:58.200 --> 1:22:01.360 like the Night, you know, your standard movie human sacrifice. 1:22:01.400 --> 1:22:04.160 The knife is up and he's chanting. He's saying, as 1:22:04.280 --> 1:22:07.840 Dreath is Lord, as Dreath is Lord. He's got a 1:22:07.840 --> 1:22:09.800 whole speech. I'm not going to read the whole thing here, 1:22:09.800 --> 1:22:11.800 but it's a lot of my master dwells within the 1:22:11.840 --> 1:22:16.719 sacred chamber. His sacred dagger is raised in trembling, in dissipation. 1:22:16.880 --> 1:22:19.920 I think he says that as Dreth. We get from 1:22:19.920 --> 1:22:24.160 this speech that this guy worships the alien that crashed 1:22:24.160 --> 1:22:26.880 one hundred years ago and thinks he is an archangel 1:22:27.000 --> 1:22:31.360 named as Dreth, and he's now this guy's god. And 1:22:31.520 --> 1:22:35.000 this guy has been helping him repair his spaceship for 1:22:35.040 --> 1:22:37.960 one hundred years. So that he can finally go back 1:22:38.000 --> 1:22:39.280 to his heavenly abode. 1:22:39.760 --> 1:22:42.960 Yes, yeah, like this the padre here used to love Jesus, 1:22:42.960 --> 1:22:46.280 but then when a hideous space monster presented itself, he's 1:22:46.320 --> 1:22:51.280 like close enough, I'll worship this now. And this I 1:22:51.439 --> 1:22:53.240 really did kind of dig this idea, you know, not 1:22:53.240 --> 1:22:54.920 in a very deep way, but it's like, yeah, this 1:22:55.680 --> 1:22:58.759 spaceship crashed one hundred years ago, what kind of repairs 1:22:58.800 --> 1:23:01.599 could they do? For a long time? You know, they 1:23:01.640 --> 1:23:05.320 were limited. They had to wait until radio shacks existed, 1:23:06.520 --> 1:23:09.479 and they had a shot at stealing automobile parts and 1:23:09.520 --> 1:23:12.639 what not to get the repairs further along. And who 1:23:12.640 --> 1:23:14.439 knows they might still only be at like thirty five 1:23:14.479 --> 1:23:15.000 percent here. 1:23:15.200 --> 1:23:17.439 Yeah, they've been trying to get copper all this time. 1:23:17.640 --> 1:23:18.240 Yeah. 1:23:20.160 --> 1:23:23.000 But so yeah, So he's got Betsy on the table 1:23:23.000 --> 1:23:24.760 there and he's going to stab her in the heart, 1:23:24.920 --> 1:23:27.519 cut her heart out, and give it to Azdreth. We'll 1:23:27.560 --> 1:23:30.280 describe this alien in just a second, and Asdreth's going 1:23:30.360 --> 1:23:33.559 to be eating it. So but I was confused, like, okay, 1:23:33.560 --> 1:23:38.160 so is this human sacrifice primarily religious or nutritional in nature? 1:23:38.240 --> 1:23:41.800 Is that this this alien needs to eat hearts? And 1:23:41.840 --> 1:23:44.120 so this guy's just going to bring him hearts or 1:23:44.200 --> 1:23:47.440 is this a ritual for actual religious purposes? 1:23:49.760 --> 1:23:53.920 Boy, that's a difficult one. Maybe maybe I is Asterath 1:23:54.560 --> 1:23:58.000 really divined? Does he like the does he like the 1:23:58.000 --> 1:23:59.920 religious aspects of this? Or is this more like the 1:24:00.040 --> 1:24:03.840 Padres thing where he's like, I worship you, and as 1:24:03.880 --> 1:24:06.760 Dereath is ultimately like, all right, I will allow it, 1:24:06.920 --> 1:24:09.519 I'll let you this is you really enjoyed this part 1:24:09.560 --> 1:24:12.719 of it? You know, this is a partnership at this point. 1:24:13.080 --> 1:24:15.040 I will eat the heart because I want to eat 1:24:15.080 --> 1:24:18.559 that juicy heart, but I don't really care personally about 1:24:18.560 --> 1:24:19.759 all of this religious stuff. 1:24:20.160 --> 1:24:22.680 Or maybe it's a psychological thing, like maybe for the 1:24:22.720 --> 1:24:25.720 pre it's like doing the Here comes the airplane to 1:24:25.720 --> 1:24:29.679 get the baby to eat the food, gets Asdreath ready 1:24:29.720 --> 1:24:31.599 to eat a heart. He knows he needs to eat 1:24:31.640 --> 1:24:33.599 the heart, but he's not in the you know, he's 1:24:33.600 --> 1:24:34.599 not hungry for heart. 1:24:34.960 --> 1:24:38.160 Or Asterreth is a true mastermind maybe and he realizes 1:24:38.240 --> 1:24:41.280 that religion is a great way to control humans. I mean, 1:24:41.320 --> 1:24:45.360 he also uses zombie magic, but also religion is good. 1:24:46.320 --> 1:24:49.680 Okay, so can you describe Asdreth what have we got 1:24:49.760 --> 1:24:51.639 going on here? With this tremendous puppet. 1:24:51.840 --> 1:24:55.719 Oh god, he's great again. This is a Beekler design 1:24:55.960 --> 1:24:59.920 and you see it through and through. So the main post, 1:25:00.200 --> 1:25:02.880 the main theatrical poster for the film, also has an 1:25:02.920 --> 1:25:05.840 illustration of what like the full healthy version of this 1:25:05.960 --> 1:25:09.320 monster might have looked like. We're essentially talking about a 1:25:09.360 --> 1:25:15.639 hairless reptilian scorpion tailed biped with a robotic robotic claw 1:25:15.720 --> 1:25:19.639 hand and kind of a twisted goblin or ony face 1:25:19.720 --> 1:25:22.479 again like that, you know, classic sort of Beekler monster design. 1:25:24.240 --> 1:25:24.800 He also a. 1:25:24.760 --> 1:25:27.680 Little bit has the feel of a hairless demon sasquatch, 1:25:27.760 --> 1:25:31.960 which is gonna be apt considering the bizarro relationship between 1:25:32.000 --> 1:25:36.520 this creature and the squatches that we've been running into, 1:25:37.320 --> 1:25:40.560 because it seems that the case is that that scorpion 1:25:40.800 --> 1:25:44.080 tail stinger that he has, if it stings a human, 1:25:44.520 --> 1:25:46.240 it will turn them into a sasquatch. 1:25:46.520 --> 1:25:49.880 Yes, yeah, so yeah, we actually see that later where 1:25:49.920 --> 1:25:52.519 Fred he's still alive, but he's gonna end up in 1:25:52.560 --> 1:25:56.080 the room and he gets poked with this little weird 1:25:56.240 --> 1:26:00.080 tale that comes out of Asdreth's Asdreth is like it 1:26:00.240 --> 1:26:01.120 in a big bucket. 1:26:01.560 --> 1:26:04.760 Yeah, like a bucket pedestal sort of thing. Basically, he's 1:26:04.760 --> 1:26:08.280 in bad shape. He's missing one arm completely. The other 1:26:08.360 --> 1:26:11.120 arm is replaced by a claw. We have no indication 1:26:11.200 --> 1:26:14.960 that he has like legs anymore. So either he was 1:26:15.439 --> 1:26:20.160 horrifically injured in the crash or was just previously wounded 1:26:20.240 --> 1:26:24.080 and debilitated, and you know, it is just left in 1:26:24.120 --> 1:26:26.519 the state. And I guess can get by because he 1:26:26.520 --> 1:26:30.320 can command a sasquatch and zombie army to do his bidding. 1:26:30.520 --> 1:26:35.360 Yeah, so the stinger turns humans into sasquatches. Yeah and yeah, 1:26:35.560 --> 1:26:39.559 and it is noted in the Michelle Bauer interview. She's 1:26:39.640 --> 1:26:42.160 like that stinger that's pretty phallic, isn't it. 1:26:44.240 --> 1:26:48.240 But in Astrath does speak, but it's kind of like 1:26:48.360 --> 1:26:53.360 alien warbling language, and I think the padre translates for him. Yeah. 1:26:53.960 --> 1:26:59.200 Yeah, So the priest he cuts out Betsy's heart and 1:26:59.240 --> 1:27:01.280 feeds it as dreath, and then the priest is going 1:27:01.360 --> 1:27:04.120 to do the same thing to carry but Jack intervenes. 1:27:04.360 --> 1:27:09.280 So Jack and Fred both get dragged into the sacrifice room. 1:27:10.240 --> 1:27:13.120 The priest commands them to kneel in the presence of 1:27:13.160 --> 1:27:16.439 the archangel Asdreth. He says, our Lord is ready to 1:27:16.479 --> 1:27:20.040 return to the glory of Heaven, and Jack starts fighting back. 1:27:20.320 --> 1:27:23.080 He starts like shouting in the priest to saying silence, 1:27:23.880 --> 1:27:27.080 but then it turns. It turns into a scuffle. He 1:27:27.160 --> 1:27:30.880 kills the priest, he shoots the archangel Asdreth, and then 1:27:30.880 --> 1:27:31.960 he cuts Carrie loose. 1:27:32.040 --> 1:27:32.960 Carrie sort of has. 1:27:32.840 --> 1:27:35.000 To remind him to free her. He seems a lot 1:27:35.040 --> 1:27:36.960 more focused on fighting Azdreth. 1:27:37.360 --> 1:27:38.519 Yeah, wow, weirdo. 1:27:39.439 --> 1:27:42.559 And then Fred and then they're like, come on, Fred, 1:27:42.600 --> 1:27:44.000 we got to get out of here. You know, we're 1:27:44.000 --> 1:27:46.800 gonna blow this place up and leave. But Fred has 1:27:46.840 --> 1:27:51.040 been stung by Asdrath in the fight, and he's like, no, 1:27:51.120 --> 1:27:53.120 you've got to leave me behind to blow up the ship. 1:27:53.160 --> 1:27:56.240 And they're like, because he's squatching out. He's starting to transform. 1:27:56.320 --> 1:27:58.960 Yeah, he says, look at me, and he holds up 1:27:59.000 --> 1:27:59.840 his arms and he's. 1:27:59.720 --> 1:28:03.880 Got yeah, yep, he's gonna get in the the werewolf 1:28:03.920 --> 1:28:07.040 pulsings under the skin, more and more hair growing on 1:28:07.080 --> 1:28:10.120 the face, and this is pretty exciting, Like he's turning 1:28:10.160 --> 1:28:14.680 into the squatch. Yeah, even though the alien overlord that 1:28:14.720 --> 1:28:17.160 created him is presumably all the way dead. 1:28:17.240 --> 1:28:21.920 Now, before you taste death, you show no squatch. So 1:28:22.080 --> 1:28:24.479 on the way out of the cave, Carrie and Jack 1:28:24.560 --> 1:28:26.720 do leave him behind, and on the way out they 1:28:26.760 --> 1:28:30.120 also come across Cindy. This is a bizarre moment. Yeah, 1:28:30.200 --> 1:28:32.840 she's still in a zombie trance and Carrie's like, we've 1:28:32.840 --> 1:28:35.200 got to help her. But Jack is like, no, she's dead, 1:28:35.320 --> 1:28:38.160 leave her And Carrie says, no, no, we've got to 1:28:38.160 --> 1:28:41.839 help her. And then Jack shoots zombie Cindy to convince 1:28:41.920 --> 1:28:43.240 Carrie to leave her behind. 1:28:43.680 --> 1:28:46.519 Yeah, again this kind of grip dark. Yeah, he's just 1:28:48.120 --> 1:28:54.320 he's just very comfortable shooting humanoids. He does not hesitate 1:28:54.360 --> 1:28:57.519 it all in a very, I think, either unrealistic or 1:28:57.640 --> 1:28:58.479 terrifying way. 1:28:58.920 --> 1:29:02.120 So they leave the cave and then the cave explodes, 1:29:02.320 --> 1:29:06.680 big explosion, and then we cut two. Jack wakes up 1:29:06.720 --> 1:29:10.320 in bed. But I don't know, Rob, can you describe 1:29:10.320 --> 1:29:13.839 this whole endings? They are like multiple fake out endings 1:29:13.880 --> 1:29:15.840 and I don't even know if any of them are 1:29:15.880 --> 1:29:16.800 a real ending. 1:29:17.720 --> 1:29:20.599 Yeah, this is confusing. We get yet multiple sort of 1:29:20.640 --> 1:29:24.360 the nightmare hasn't ended yet sort of endings where he's 1:29:24.400 --> 1:29:27.240 waking up in bed and carries next to him, but oh, 1:29:27.320 --> 1:29:29.640 carries a zombie but no, wake up from that. But 1:29:29.680 --> 1:29:31.479 then doesn't he think? He wakes up from that and 1:29:31.520 --> 1:29:32.519 Carrie's not even there. 1:29:33.160 --> 1:29:36.200 First he wakes up and there he's in bed with 1:29:36.320 --> 1:29:40.080 Carrie and there are zombies all around the bed. The 1:29:40.160 --> 1:29:41.479 bed is floating in space. 1:29:41.720 --> 1:29:46.439 Yeah. Yeah, it's like a black Garth Maringhi's garage here exactly. Yes. 1:29:47.160 --> 1:29:51.160 Yeah, And the zombies attack while Carrie's like, hey, let's 1:29:51.160 --> 1:29:53.040 go to the beach tomorrow, and the zombies are all 1:29:53.080 --> 1:29:54.960 getting it. So it's like he sees the zombies and 1:29:55.080 --> 1:29:58.200 she doesn't. And then he wakes up again and he's 1:29:58.240 --> 1:30:00.920 in bed again, and then Carrie turns and looks at 1:30:00.960 --> 1:30:03.840 him and she's she's a zombie now. And then he 1:30:03.880 --> 1:30:06.839 wakes up again, I think, And is he just by himself? 1:30:06.920 --> 1:30:10.559 Then? Yeah, there's no carry So what's real? What's not? 1:30:10.880 --> 1:30:12.840 Was the whole thing just in his head? No? 1:30:13.200 --> 1:30:14.760 Surely it was all a dream? 1:30:14.800 --> 1:30:19.240 Surely not. No, It's almost like they're just like, let's 1:30:19.280 --> 1:30:22.040 try some endings and if they work, they work, and 1:30:22.080 --> 1:30:25.080 if they don't work, we'll just include all of them. Anyway. 1:30:25.479 --> 1:30:28.120 Am I a man who dreamed he was a sasquatch 1:30:28.240 --> 1:30:30.000 or a sasquatch who dreamed he was a man. 1:30:30.520 --> 1:30:32.200 That would have been good if you'd turn into a 1:30:32.200 --> 1:30:35.519 sasquatch at the end. That would have made it more horrible. 1:30:35.600 --> 1:30:37.800 Dream that I had no hair and I lived, and 1:30:37.840 --> 1:30:40.640 I drove a truck and I was looking for my 1:30:40.680 --> 1:30:41.200 own kind. 1:30:41.280 --> 1:30:44.400 Yeah. Yeah, and I was trying to kill Asdreth instead 1:30:44.400 --> 1:30:46.679 of serving him. It was really upsetting. 1:30:47.120 --> 1:30:49.559 I was gonna say about this movie. I've already made 1:30:49.560 --> 1:30:53.639 this comparison a little bit, but you know more about 1:30:53.680 --> 1:30:56.599 the behind the scenes than I do. The third act 1:30:56.680 --> 1:30:59.920 of this movie really reminded me a lot of The Dungeon, 1:31:00.640 --> 1:31:03.439 this other movie we've done on Weird House, in that 1:31:04.240 --> 1:31:09.759 it felt like a creature makeup effects workshop showcase where 1:31:09.760 --> 1:31:13.160 they built the plot around We've got all these different 1:31:13.360 --> 1:31:17.160 masks and sets and props and puppets, and we've been 1:31:17.160 --> 1:31:19.760 separately working on all these things, and we want to 1:31:19.800 --> 1:31:21.960 find a story where we can use them all, and 1:31:22.000 --> 1:31:23.240 this is the movie we got. 1:31:23.600 --> 1:31:26.320 I think, so like, you just know that when Beekler 1:31:26.880 --> 1:31:28.760 shared his idea, He's like, hey, I've got an idea 1:31:28.800 --> 1:31:31.920 for a movie. He described the third act. He described 1:31:31.920 --> 1:31:35.360 this showdown in the cave, the rest is just implied, 1:31:35.680 --> 1:31:39.360 and it'll be a traditional Bigfoot movie up until that point. Yeah, 1:31:39.560 --> 1:31:42.639 but again, that's I think that's what makest even work 1:31:42.720 --> 1:31:46.839 so special, that it's just ultimately so unhinged and crazy 1:31:46.880 --> 1:31:50.440 and ambitious in its use of all these different elements 1:31:51.439 --> 1:31:54.600 that you know are stitched away. It has a cohesive 1:31:54.680 --> 1:31:57.920 lore to it that it's fun to try and fill 1:31:57.960 --> 1:32:00.400 in the gaps and make it all work and head 1:32:00.439 --> 1:32:02.720 but yeah, absolutely bonkers and I love it. 1:32:03.240 --> 1:32:06.720 Yellow hats off to them, Yes, yes, all right, Well 1:32:06.720 --> 1:32:08.559 that's all I've got on Demon Warp. 1:32:09.120 --> 1:32:13.240 Demon Warp one word. Yeah, I highly recommend it. You 1:32:13.439 --> 1:32:16.320 pick it up, and you know, physical media form or 1:32:16.360 --> 1:32:18.360 you know, the high quality stream of it might be 1:32:18.360 --> 1:32:21.519 available in the future that sometimes comes to pass with 1:32:21.560 --> 1:32:22.240 these pictures. 1:32:22.439 --> 1:32:25.520 Now, wait, Rob, I don't know if this was intentional 1:32:25.560 --> 1:32:28.240 on your part, but last week we did Demon Pond 1:32:28.760 --> 1:32:31.479 and this week we're doing Demon Warp. Next week is 1:32:31.479 --> 1:32:32.240 it Demon Wind? 1:32:32.760 --> 1:32:36.400 Oh God, I don't know. Next week is your choice. 1:32:36.520 --> 1:32:40.200 So it's then the balls in your court to decide 1:32:40.200 --> 1:32:42.400 if we continue the demon trend. You know, we could 1:32:42.400 --> 1:32:45.439 eat well on weird house Cinema just doing films for 1:32:45.479 --> 1:32:49.280 a while that have demon in the title, but we 1:32:49.320 --> 1:32:52.280 shall see. It was just just happenstance here because I 1:32:52.320 --> 1:32:54.160 knew that Demon Warp was about to come out in 1:32:54.200 --> 1:32:57.240 this Blu Ray edition and you happen to pick Demon 1:32:57.280 --> 1:33:00.839 Pond prior to that. So it's just what the universe 1:33:00.880 --> 1:33:01.640 wanted from us. 1:33:01.920 --> 1:33:07.240 Beautiful coincidence. So for next week, Demon Seed starring Julie Christie, 1:33:07.280 --> 1:33:09.000 it is maybe not. 1:33:09.040 --> 1:33:10.920 I know some people have asked for that one. We'll see. 1:33:11.280 --> 1:33:14.559 I don't know about that. I have my doubts about 1:33:14.560 --> 1:33:15.519 whether I want to watch it. 1:33:16.760 --> 1:33:20.840 All right, Well, hey, everybody, just a reminder that Stuff 1:33:20.880 --> 1:33:23.360 to Blow Your Mind is primarily a science and culture 1:33:23.400 --> 1:33:27.040 podcast with core episodes in Tuesdays and Thursdays. 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