1 00:00:01,160 --> 00:00:01,560 Speaker 1: Welcome. 2 00:00:01,600 --> 00:00:04,120 Speaker 2: It is Verdict with Ted Cruz, a week in review, 3 00:00:04,200 --> 00:00:06,840 Speaker 2: Ben Ferguson with you. And here are three big stories 4 00:00:06,840 --> 00:00:09,039 Speaker 2: that you may have missed that we talked about this week. 5 00:00:09,119 --> 00:00:13,760 Speaker 2: First up in PR and three Colorado radio stations suing 6 00:00:13,840 --> 00:00:17,639 Speaker 2: the Trump administration. They want their free money back, you know, 7 00:00:17,720 --> 00:00:19,600 Speaker 2: your taxpayer dollars that you work. 8 00:00:19,520 --> 00:00:20,200 Speaker 1: So hard for. 9 00:00:20,600 --> 00:00:23,320 Speaker 2: Well, the Trump administration is fighting back and we'll give 10 00:00:23,360 --> 00:00:27,280 Speaker 2: you the details in just a moment. Also, California is 11 00:00:27,400 --> 00:00:31,880 Speaker 2: continuing to defy Trump on boys and girls' sports and 12 00:00:31,960 --> 00:00:35,559 Speaker 2: some politicians are starting to flip on the issue and 13 00:00:35,640 --> 00:00:38,080 Speaker 2: it may even be changing in California. 14 00:00:38,360 --> 00:00:39,360 Speaker 1: That in just a moment. 15 00:00:39,800 --> 00:00:43,640 Speaker 2: And finally, James Comy in his eighty six forty seven 16 00:00:44,040 --> 00:00:47,280 Speaker 2: CShell message on the beach, Well, it's a story that's 17 00:00:47,400 --> 00:00:49,960 Speaker 2: just not adding up, and we'll dive into that as well. 18 00:00:50,120 --> 00:00:53,520 Speaker 2: It's the weekend Review and it starts right now. Want 19 00:00:53,520 --> 00:00:57,240 Speaker 2: to move also to the MPR lawsuit and get your 20 00:00:57,280 --> 00:00:58,640 Speaker 2: take on that center as well. 21 00:00:58,920 --> 00:01:02,880 Speaker 3: So this week NPR, National Public Radio, and three Colorado 22 00:01:02,880 --> 00:01:07,080 Speaker 3: Public Radio stations filed a lawsuit in federal court against 23 00:01:07,160 --> 00:01:11,680 Speaker 3: the Trump White House against the President's executive order barring 24 00:01:11,760 --> 00:01:15,080 Speaker 3: the use of funds for NPR and for PBS, and 25 00:01:15,520 --> 00:01:19,039 Speaker 3: the lawsuit says, quote, it is not always obvious when 26 00:01:19,080 --> 00:01:22,440 Speaker 3: the government has acted with a retaliatory purpose in violation 27 00:01:22,560 --> 00:01:23,480 Speaker 3: of the First Amendment. 28 00:01:24,120 --> 00:01:26,160 Speaker 1: But this wolf comes as a wolf. 29 00:01:26,720 --> 00:01:31,000 Speaker 3: The order targets NPR and PBS expressly because, in the 30 00:01:31,040 --> 00:01:36,400 Speaker 3: President's views, their news and other content is not fair, accurate, 31 00:01:36,760 --> 00:01:41,840 Speaker 3: or unbiased. Now let me stop and say, listen, you 32 00:01:41,880 --> 00:01:45,640 Speaker 3: could file a reasonable lawsuit arguing that on any of 33 00:01:45,680 --> 00:01:50,200 Speaker 3: these particular executive orders that where you're dealing with congressional appropriations, 34 00:01:50,600 --> 00:01:53,320 Speaker 3: that challenging the authority of an executive order to limit 35 00:01:53,360 --> 00:01:57,280 Speaker 3: congressional appropriations. That that's an area that's being litigated. That's 36 00:01:57,320 --> 00:02:00,000 Speaker 3: going to be litigated, and reasonable minds can can differ 37 00:02:00,240 --> 00:02:04,000 Speaker 3: on what is permissible. And we've talked in previous podcasts 38 00:02:04,040 --> 00:02:08,040 Speaker 3: that there is there is a significant dispute over the 39 00:02:08,080 --> 00:02:11,760 Speaker 3: president's authority to engage in what is called impoundment, which 40 00:02:11,800 --> 00:02:16,519 Speaker 3: is essentially to decline to spend money that Congress has appropriated. 41 00:02:17,080 --> 00:02:20,720 Speaker 3: That you want to file a lawsuit over that, Okay, courts, 42 00:02:20,760 --> 00:02:23,760 Speaker 3: we'll sort that out. That'll be litigated. But here what 43 00:02:23,800 --> 00:02:27,760 Speaker 3: this lawsuit is claiming is that the First Amendment prohibits 44 00:02:27,800 --> 00:02:30,960 Speaker 3: defunding NPR. And the reason they say it really is 45 00:02:31,000 --> 00:02:36,600 Speaker 3: absurd is you can't defund the NPR simply because quote 46 00:02:36,760 --> 00:02:40,840 Speaker 3: their news and other content is not fair, accurator unbiased. 47 00:02:40,840 --> 00:02:43,160 Speaker 3: Now let me say, I think no objective person on 48 00:02:43,240 --> 00:02:48,720 Speaker 3: planet Earth can contend that NPR or PBS are fair, 49 00:02:48,760 --> 00:02:52,799 Speaker 3: accurator unbiased. And so we really are in Alison Wonderland 50 00:02:52,800 --> 00:02:56,639 Speaker 3: through the looking glass, where you now have litigants arguing 51 00:02:57,120 --> 00:03:02,480 Speaker 3: because NPR and PBS are dishonest and political, you can't 52 00:03:02,480 --> 00:03:05,520 Speaker 3: cut off funding because cutting off funding would be silencing 53 00:03:05,560 --> 00:03:08,520 Speaker 3: our right to be dishonest and political, and not just look, 54 00:03:08,919 --> 00:03:11,760 Speaker 3: you absolutely have a right to be dishonest and political. 55 00:03:11,840 --> 00:03:16,760 Speaker 3: So MSNBC can publish any nonsense they want, CNN can 56 00:03:16,800 --> 00:03:19,720 Speaker 3: publish any nonsense they want. Now nobody watches them. It's 57 00:03:19,800 --> 00:03:21,639 Speaker 3: kind of a tree falling in the woods. But they 58 00:03:21,639 --> 00:03:23,560 Speaker 3: have a right to say it. They have a right 59 00:03:23,639 --> 00:03:27,200 Speaker 3: to to to to say utter nonsense. But NPR's argument 60 00:03:27,280 --> 00:03:28,680 Speaker 3: is not only do they have a right to say it, 61 00:03:28,720 --> 00:03:31,040 Speaker 3: which I agree they do, but they have a right 62 00:03:31,080 --> 00:03:34,000 Speaker 3: to have the taxpayers fund them forever. That that that 63 00:03:34,080 --> 00:03:37,600 Speaker 3: it is illegal for us to stop paying for their 64 00:03:37,640 --> 00:03:42,120 Speaker 3: partisan lives. I gotta say, that is an absurd claim. 65 00:03:42,680 --> 00:03:46,400 Speaker 3: And it is the simple simple reality of of of 66 00:03:46,400 --> 00:03:49,440 Speaker 3: of the absurdity of the left. 67 00:03:49,840 --> 00:03:50,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, it is. 68 00:03:50,440 --> 00:03:53,920 Speaker 2: And and I wonder when we will actually get resolution 69 00:03:54,000 --> 00:03:56,120 Speaker 2: on this. Is there a real chance you think that 70 00:03:56,200 --> 00:04:00,200 Speaker 2: we could actually defund m PR, PBS and just say, hey, 71 00:04:00,360 --> 00:04:01,320 Speaker 2: make it on your own. 72 00:04:01,600 --> 00:04:02,680 Speaker 1: Is there a real chance? 73 00:04:03,160 --> 00:04:05,720 Speaker 3: Look, I certainly hope. So I am pressing to do so. 74 00:04:05,760 --> 00:04:09,800 Speaker 3: I'm pressing Congress to do so. I'm pressing Congress to 75 00:04:10,280 --> 00:04:13,960 Speaker 3: enact and codify the Doge cuts that we've seen Elon 76 00:04:14,080 --> 00:04:16,440 Speaker 3: Muskin doche put in place. We're gonna have a battle 77 00:04:16,440 --> 00:04:19,080 Speaker 3: on Congress. We're gonna have a battle in Congress if 78 00:04:19,160 --> 00:04:22,120 Speaker 3: it has to go through regular order. What regular order 79 00:04:22,200 --> 00:04:26,080 Speaker 3: means is the standard path of legislation. That means it's 80 00:04:26,120 --> 00:04:29,360 Speaker 3: subject to filibuster. That means you need sixty votes in 81 00:04:29,400 --> 00:04:31,640 Speaker 3: the Senate, which means you need seven Democrats. If you 82 00:04:31,720 --> 00:04:33,719 Speaker 3: have to get seven Democrats. 83 00:04:33,480 --> 00:04:35,200 Speaker 1: And that's how they save it, is what you're saying. 84 00:04:35,200 --> 00:04:38,640 Speaker 2: That's right, that's their ideal situation is you guys complain 85 00:04:38,680 --> 00:04:42,159 Speaker 2: about it, and we keep giving billions to our propaganda machines. 86 00:04:42,839 --> 00:04:46,680 Speaker 3: Zero Democrats will vote to defund NPR or PBS, which 87 00:04:46,760 --> 00:04:50,600 Speaker 3: means if it goes through regular order, it will not happen. 88 00:04:50,640 --> 00:04:53,040 Speaker 2: The other way is that proof of just how biased 89 00:04:53,040 --> 00:04:55,039 Speaker 2: they are, the fact that zero of them would go 90 00:04:55,080 --> 00:04:57,000 Speaker 2: to defund it because they know how valuable it is 91 00:04:57,080 --> 00:04:58,719 Speaker 2: their propaganda. 92 00:04:58,680 --> 00:05:00,479 Speaker 3: And they don't care. In fact, I want you to have 93 00:05:00,520 --> 00:05:04,600 Speaker 3: listened to Catherine Marr, the CEO of NPR, who describes 94 00:05:04,680 --> 00:05:10,000 Speaker 3: the First Amendment as the quote the greatest challenge that 95 00:05:10,320 --> 00:05:11,960 Speaker 3: she faces to controlling narratives. 96 00:05:11,960 --> 00:05:12,640 Speaker 1: Here, give a listen. 97 00:05:13,000 --> 00:05:16,480 Speaker 4: The number one challenge here that we see is, of course, 98 00:05:16,560 --> 00:05:19,560 Speaker 4: the First Amendment in the United States is a fairly 99 00:05:19,680 --> 00:05:25,040 Speaker 4: robust protection of rights, and that is a protection of 100 00:05:25,080 --> 00:05:26,960 Speaker 4: rights both for platforms, which I actually think is very 101 00:05:26,960 --> 00:05:29,240 Speaker 4: important that platforms have those rights to be able to 102 00:05:29,240 --> 00:05:31,760 Speaker 4: regulate what kind of content they want on their sites. 103 00:05:32,160 --> 00:05:34,080 Speaker 4: But it also means that it is a little bit 104 00:05:34,240 --> 00:05:38,520 Speaker 4: tricky to really address some of the real challenges of 105 00:05:38,640 --> 00:05:41,400 Speaker 4: where does bad information come from and sort of the 106 00:05:41,480 --> 00:05:44,240 Speaker 4: influenced peddlers who have made a real market economy around it. 107 00:05:44,640 --> 00:05:46,560 Speaker 2: I mean that through your tax hours are going and 108 00:05:46,600 --> 00:05:48,080 Speaker 2: that's a woman who's in charge. 109 00:05:48,480 --> 00:05:51,359 Speaker 3: Damn it, that pesky First Amendment. We want to censor, 110 00:05:51,839 --> 00:05:54,600 Speaker 3: we want to silence voices we disagree with, and that 111 00:05:54,640 --> 00:05:56,960 Speaker 3: First Amendment stands in the way. And here I want 112 00:05:57,000 --> 00:06:01,680 Speaker 3: you to listen to this, this montage of Catherine Marr 113 00:06:01,680 --> 00:06:05,159 Speaker 3: being being grilled at congressional hearing. Give a listen to 114 00:06:05,160 --> 00:06:08,240 Speaker 3: to just how extreme the NPR CEO is. 115 00:06:09,000 --> 00:06:12,120 Speaker 5: And I welcome the opportunity to discuss the essential role 116 00:06:12,160 --> 00:06:17,039 Speaker 5: of public media in delivering unbiased, nonpartisan, fact based reporting 117 00:06:17,040 --> 00:06:20,279 Speaker 5: to Americans. Madam Chair, thank you so much for the 118 00:06:20,279 --> 00:06:22,400 Speaker 5: opportunity to address this. I know the youth. 119 00:06:22,520 --> 00:06:25,280 Speaker 6: Is it up to you, an MPR to crack down 120 00:06:25,279 --> 00:06:27,440 Speaker 6: on bad information or decide the truth? To answer the 121 00:06:27,520 --> 00:06:28,599 Speaker 6: question yes or no, Miss. 122 00:06:28,480 --> 00:06:31,279 Speaker 5: More, absolutely not. I'm a very strong believer in free speech, 123 00:06:31,279 --> 00:06:32,240 Speaker 5: and I believe that more s. 124 00:06:32,680 --> 00:06:36,840 Speaker 6: Your public statements say otherwise. During the COVID pandemic in 125 00:06:36,880 --> 00:06:41,160 Speaker 6: the twenty twenty election, you said you censored information through 126 00:06:41,200 --> 00:06:45,680 Speaker 6: conversations with government. Which governments were those, Miss Mahr the 127 00:06:45,680 --> 00:06:47,000 Speaker 6: Biden administration, yes. 128 00:06:46,960 --> 00:06:49,640 Speaker 5: Or no, Madam Chair, Wikipedia never censored any information. 129 00:06:50,279 --> 00:06:52,359 Speaker 6: These are your public statements, Miss More. 130 00:06:52,279 --> 00:06:52,839 Speaker 1: Madam Chair. 131 00:06:52,839 --> 00:06:56,040 Speaker 5: We are in full compliance and with the fcc'son de Green, 132 00:06:56,040 --> 00:06:57,200 Speaker 5: and we'll continue to cooperate. 133 00:06:57,800 --> 00:07:00,560 Speaker 6: I remind you you're under oath. I'm assuming you're concerned. 134 00:07:00,600 --> 00:07:02,520 Speaker 6: Both of you are concerned about this, and that's why 135 00:07:02,560 --> 00:07:04,279 Speaker 6: you brought so many attorneys with you today. 136 00:07:04,600 --> 00:07:07,080 Speaker 5: First of all, I want to recognize your concerns. One 137 00:07:07,080 --> 00:07:08,920 Speaker 5: of the first things that I did in coming in 138 00:07:08,920 --> 00:07:12,440 Speaker 5: in May was to beef up our editorial standards and 139 00:07:12,480 --> 00:07:15,800 Speaker 5: PR i've been doing editorial I'm so I'm so sorry 140 00:07:16,360 --> 00:07:17,440 Speaker 5: orally fund. 141 00:07:17,160 --> 00:07:21,160 Speaker 7: An entity that's supposed to provide the news, not provide 142 00:07:21,160 --> 00:07:24,080 Speaker 7: the news. Of course, Ballots of course Congress been an 143 00:07:24,320 --> 00:07:27,640 Speaker 7: article by Uri Berlinger. I've been at NPR for twenty 144 00:07:27,640 --> 00:07:30,000 Speaker 7: five years. Here's how we lost America's trust. 145 00:07:30,160 --> 00:07:32,480 Speaker 5: Well, I do want to say that NPR acknowledges that 146 00:07:32,520 --> 00:07:34,880 Speaker 5: we were mistaken and failing to cover the Hunter Biden 147 00:07:34,960 --> 00:07:39,800 Speaker 5: laptop story more aggressively and sooner. Our current editorial leadership wuhan. 148 00:07:40,720 --> 00:07:42,840 Speaker 5: We recognize that we were reporting at the time, but 149 00:07:42,880 --> 00:07:45,520 Speaker 5: we acknowledge that the new CIA evidence is worthy of 150 00:07:45,560 --> 00:07:46,480 Speaker 5: coverage and have covered. 151 00:07:46,520 --> 00:07:48,200 Speaker 7: If you've even talked about the First Amendment kind of 152 00:07:48,200 --> 00:07:50,040 Speaker 7: getting in the way of what you wanted to get done. 153 00:07:50,240 --> 00:07:52,600 Speaker 7: NPR is now and taking this non biased approach. 154 00:07:52,920 --> 00:07:56,320 Speaker 5: I so appreciate the opportunity to perhaps clarify some things. 155 00:07:56,400 --> 00:07:59,400 Speaker 5: My talk about truth was really referencing the way that 156 00:07:59,400 --> 00:08:02,720 Speaker 5: people used truth to refer to belief as opposed to facts. 157 00:08:02,760 --> 00:08:05,360 Speaker 7: Your comments said that truth was getting the way of 158 00:08:05,360 --> 00:08:07,800 Speaker 7: getting things done, and that you were prioritizing what you 159 00:08:07,840 --> 00:08:09,720 Speaker 7: wanted to get done over truth. 160 00:08:09,880 --> 00:08:11,760 Speaker 8: Did they come up in your job interview? 161 00:08:11,840 --> 00:08:14,880 Speaker 5: Like do you see a problem at congressman? Thank you 162 00:08:14,920 --> 00:08:17,520 Speaker 5: for the question. No, they never came up in my 163 00:08:17,600 --> 00:08:18,280 Speaker 5: job interview. 164 00:08:18,560 --> 00:08:21,680 Speaker 8: If you're a rabid progressive, and do you not think 165 00:08:21,720 --> 00:08:26,800 Speaker 8: it's a problem that your political leanings make it seem 166 00:08:26,840 --> 00:08:29,400 Speaker 8: to the American people that you're not biased and you're 167 00:08:29,400 --> 00:08:31,560 Speaker 8: not doing your job because you agree that your job 168 00:08:31,640 --> 00:08:32,920 Speaker 8: is to have journalistic integrity. 169 00:08:33,000 --> 00:08:36,440 Speaker 5: Right, absolutely, But there is a strong firewall between the 170 00:08:36,440 --> 00:08:37,719 Speaker 5: newsroom and anything that. 171 00:08:37,679 --> 00:08:38,880 Speaker 1: I let's talk about the newsroom. 172 00:08:38,920 --> 00:08:42,680 Speaker 8: You have eighty seven registered Democrats, not a single Republican 173 00:08:42,760 --> 00:08:46,000 Speaker 8: in your editor boards. I mean, how does that work 174 00:08:46,360 --> 00:08:48,960 Speaker 8: to give us the perception that you're doing your job 175 00:08:49,000 --> 00:08:51,240 Speaker 8: of actually delivering unbiased information. 176 00:08:51,640 --> 00:08:53,320 Speaker 5: I would agree with you that that number is a 177 00:08:53,360 --> 00:08:55,440 Speaker 5: concern if it is accurate. I do believe that we 178 00:08:55,520 --> 00:08:58,080 Speaker 5: need to have journalists who represent the full breadth of 179 00:08:58,160 --> 00:09:01,440 Speaker 5: the American society so that we can well for all Americans. 180 00:09:01,640 --> 00:09:03,400 Speaker 1: Well, I just gotta stop it there. 181 00:09:03,440 --> 00:09:05,920 Speaker 2: This goes on for several more minutes, but that part 182 00:09:05,960 --> 00:09:07,560 Speaker 2: there at the end where he's like, you got eighty 183 00:09:07,600 --> 00:09:08,760 Speaker 2: seven people on the edtorial board. 184 00:09:08,760 --> 00:09:10,600 Speaker 1: They're all Democrats. You don't have seen a Republican. 185 00:09:10,960 --> 00:09:13,280 Speaker 2: And then she's like, yeah, if that number is true, 186 00:09:13,360 --> 00:09:15,360 Speaker 2: then it is a concern. 187 00:09:16,280 --> 00:09:20,559 Speaker 3: The argument of NPR is that the First Amendment requires 188 00:09:20,679 --> 00:09:24,800 Speaker 3: for you and me to keep paying for them to 189 00:09:24,960 --> 00:09:28,079 Speaker 3: propagandize and lie. And I got to say one of 190 00:09:28,160 --> 00:09:30,640 Speaker 3: my favorite facts, as I said, it's not just NPR, 191 00:09:30,679 --> 00:09:38,040 Speaker 3: it's three Colorado radio stations, the statewide Colorado Public Radio 192 00:09:38,080 --> 00:09:42,760 Speaker 3: Station based in Denver, KSUT, which was originally founded by 193 00:09:42,800 --> 00:09:46,079 Speaker 3: the Southern Ute Indian tribe. And this is the one 194 00:09:46,120 --> 00:09:51,520 Speaker 3: that cracks me up. The Aspen Public Radio, which broadcasts 195 00:09:51,559 --> 00:09:55,560 Speaker 3: in Aspen, one of the richest communities on planet Earth. 196 00:09:56,280 --> 00:09:59,000 Speaker 3: If you're an Aspen and you look at the airport, 197 00:09:59,640 --> 00:10:02,600 Speaker 3: you just see a line of private jets as far 198 00:10:02,679 --> 00:10:05,200 Speaker 3: as the eye can see. And their argument is the 199 00:10:05,240 --> 00:10:10,120 Speaker 3: First Amendment mandates that we tax American workers to pay 200 00:10:10,720 --> 00:10:15,760 Speaker 3: for propaganda in Aspen. Because the poor, wretched masses of 201 00:10:15,800 --> 00:10:19,079 Speaker 3: aspend can afford to pay for their own propaganda, they 202 00:10:19,120 --> 00:10:20,920 Speaker 3: need to tax American workers instead. 203 00:10:21,120 --> 00:10:23,520 Speaker 2: Now, if you want to hear the rest of this conversation, 204 00:10:23,760 --> 00:10:26,079 Speaker 2: you can go back and listen to the full podcast 205 00:10:26,200 --> 00:10:30,400 Speaker 2: from earlier this week. Now onto story number two, Senator, 206 00:10:30,480 --> 00:10:33,880 Speaker 2: Let's deal with California. And there has been a fight 207 00:10:34,000 --> 00:10:37,200 Speaker 2: since the President came in with his executive order on 208 00:10:37,320 --> 00:10:42,040 Speaker 2: trying to protect women from men being in their locker rooms, 209 00:10:42,080 --> 00:10:44,880 Speaker 2: being in their sports beating them up. We saw it 210 00:10:44,960 --> 00:10:49,040 Speaker 2: during the Olympics in boxing. We've seen countless women who 211 00:10:49,120 --> 00:10:51,080 Speaker 2: their achievements have been taken away from them on the 212 00:10:51,120 --> 00:10:55,640 Speaker 2: podium because of men claiming their women, which is impossible 213 00:10:56,520 --> 00:10:59,560 Speaker 2: in reality. And California decide they were going to stand 214 00:10:59,640 --> 00:11:02,040 Speaker 2: up to Trump and guess what, it didn't go very 215 00:11:02,080 --> 00:11:02,680 Speaker 2: well for them. 216 00:11:03,520 --> 00:11:06,080 Speaker 3: Well, listen, we've seen the Democrat Party getting more and 217 00:11:06,160 --> 00:11:09,640 Speaker 3: more radical ever since Donald Trump took the oath of 218 00:11:09,640 --> 00:11:12,240 Speaker 3: office back in twenty seventeen. They hate Trump and they've 219 00:11:12,280 --> 00:11:14,320 Speaker 3: gotten more and more extreme on a host of issues, 220 00:11:15,520 --> 00:11:18,640 Speaker 3: and one of the poster children for their extreme issues 221 00:11:18,720 --> 00:11:23,200 Speaker 3: is embracing boys in girls sports, men and women's sports. 222 00:11:23,240 --> 00:11:27,040 Speaker 3: And it is wrong, It is unfair, It invites injury, 223 00:11:27,880 --> 00:11:32,000 Speaker 3: and it also deprives both both girls and women of 224 00:11:32,080 --> 00:11:36,040 Speaker 3: athletic victories they should have and they've earned. There are 225 00:11:36,120 --> 00:11:39,040 Speaker 3: differences between boys and girls. There are differences between men 226 00:11:39,040 --> 00:11:42,520 Speaker 3: and women. That did not used to be a controversial proposition. 227 00:11:42,920 --> 00:11:45,959 Speaker 3: It is only in today's looney tune left that they 228 00:11:46,000 --> 00:11:48,720 Speaker 3: can't tell to the difference between men and women. But 229 00:11:48,800 --> 00:11:52,000 Speaker 3: I got to tell you, even though in the Senate 230 00:11:52,480 --> 00:11:56,640 Speaker 3: Senate Democrats all of them continue to defend men in 231 00:11:56,679 --> 00:11:59,199 Speaker 3: women's sports and boys and girls sports, We're seeing the 232 00:11:59,240 --> 00:12:03,000 Speaker 3: state of California. We're seeing the Democrats beginning to retreat. 233 00:12:03,000 --> 00:12:05,960 Speaker 3: We're seeing Gavin Newsom, the governor who's been a far 234 00:12:06,080 --> 00:12:09,680 Speaker 3: left radical governor. He's got ambitions of being president. He's 235 00:12:10,160 --> 00:12:13,480 Speaker 3: looking at running in twenty twenty eight, and he's decided, Okay, 236 00:12:13,520 --> 00:12:15,720 Speaker 3: we're on the wrong side of an eighty twenty issue. 237 00:12:15,920 --> 00:12:18,360 Speaker 3: I want to get the hell away from this. And 238 00:12:18,400 --> 00:12:22,160 Speaker 3: so California announced this is a big deal. They're changing 239 00:12:22,200 --> 00:12:25,880 Speaker 3: their policy for track and field, so that if you're 240 00:12:25,920 --> 00:12:30,400 Speaker 3: a biological girl and you got you missed out on 241 00:12:30,600 --> 00:12:33,520 Speaker 3: making it to the state championship because you were beaten 242 00:12:34,200 --> 00:12:37,680 Speaker 3: by a biological male who claims to be a transgender woman, 243 00:12:38,480 --> 00:12:41,480 Speaker 3: then the girl you will still get your slot. You 244 00:12:41,559 --> 00:12:45,280 Speaker 3: still get invited to the state championship. Look, that's a 245 00:12:45,320 --> 00:12:49,120 Speaker 3: significant step in the right direction, and Gavin Newsom is 246 00:12:49,200 --> 00:12:52,679 Speaker 3: embracing it. And I got to say this really illustrates 247 00:12:53,200 --> 00:12:57,120 Speaker 3: that at least some Democrats realize, Wow, we are on 248 00:12:57,200 --> 00:13:00,880 Speaker 3: the wrong side of an issue that America America wants 249 00:13:00,920 --> 00:13:03,240 Speaker 3: to protect girls sports and women's sports. We want to 250 00:13:03,280 --> 00:13:06,640 Speaker 3: protect our daughters and we don't want to see them 251 00:13:07,920 --> 00:13:12,760 Speaker 3: hurt or competing unfairly. And so the crazy thing is 252 00:13:12,800 --> 00:13:16,400 Speaker 3: that means in track and field in California now they 253 00:13:16,440 --> 00:13:19,400 Speaker 3: may give three gold medals, one to the boy, one 254 00:13:19,400 --> 00:13:21,760 Speaker 3: to the girl, and one to the transgender athlete. You 255 00:13:21,760 --> 00:13:26,680 Speaker 3: may have gold medals all around. But for bright Blue 256 00:13:26,720 --> 00:13:31,240 Speaker 3: California to make this concession, it shows that at least 257 00:13:31,280 --> 00:13:33,920 Speaker 3: some Democrats realize they are way on the wrong side 258 00:13:33,920 --> 00:13:34,640 Speaker 3: of this issue. 259 00:13:34,960 --> 00:13:37,480 Speaker 2: This also, I think is an issue that it's worth 260 00:13:37,640 --> 00:13:40,760 Speaker 2: fighting for, and I think many that are listening or saying, 261 00:13:40,960 --> 00:13:42,600 Speaker 2: we don't want to give in, and we don't want 262 00:13:42,640 --> 00:13:45,360 Speaker 2: to give up, and the pendulum went so far to 263 00:13:45,400 --> 00:13:48,160 Speaker 2: the radical left for so many years that this is 264 00:13:48,200 --> 00:13:51,320 Speaker 2: the fight that is worth fighting on and fighting over. 265 00:13:51,840 --> 00:13:55,560 Speaker 2: And showing California having to change girls track and field 266 00:13:55,640 --> 00:13:58,360 Speaker 2: championship rules after the Trump threatens funding over the trans 267 00:13:58,440 --> 00:14:01,520 Speaker 2: athletes is just an example of Hey, we are, in 268 00:14:01,600 --> 00:14:06,240 Speaker 2: many times the silent majority, and we need to start 269 00:14:06,280 --> 00:14:09,280 Speaker 2: acting like it, especially on these types of issues. 270 00:14:09,559 --> 00:14:11,680 Speaker 3: Well, I'll tell you Ben this, this issue is a 271 00:14:11,800 --> 00:14:15,520 Speaker 3: powerful issue. And as you know, I ran for reelection 272 00:14:15,640 --> 00:14:17,880 Speaker 3: in Texas last year in twenty twenty four. It was 273 00:14:17,920 --> 00:14:21,520 Speaker 3: a quarter billion dollar race. I was Chuck Schumer's number 274 00:14:21,520 --> 00:14:25,600 Speaker 3: one target and my campaign was was the first campaign 275 00:14:25,680 --> 00:14:29,840 Speaker 3: in the country last year to put real time and 276 00:14:29,960 --> 00:14:33,200 Speaker 3: energy behind this this issue of we're going to protect 277 00:14:34,040 --> 00:14:37,520 Speaker 3: girls sports from boys competing and and we put tens 278 00:14:37,520 --> 00:14:41,840 Speaker 3: of millions of dollars behind this issue. What's fascinating is 279 00:14:41,880 --> 00:14:44,840 Speaker 3: the media completely misunderstood the issue. So one of the 280 00:14:44,840 --> 00:14:47,480 Speaker 3: things that my campaign did is we did focus groups 281 00:14:47,480 --> 00:14:52,000 Speaker 3: in Houston, Dallas of undecided moderate women to understand what 282 00:14:52,120 --> 00:14:56,000 Speaker 3: issues moved them, and we tested thirty thirty five different messages. 283 00:14:56,840 --> 00:15:00,960 Speaker 3: The number one issue that moved undecided moderate women in 284 00:15:01,000 --> 00:15:04,640 Speaker 3: Texas was boys and girls sports. And when I started 285 00:15:04,640 --> 00:15:08,320 Speaker 3: campaigning on it, it was very funny. The reporters are like, oh, 286 00:15:08,440 --> 00:15:10,960 Speaker 3: Cruise is trying to appeal to the crazy right wing, 287 00:15:11,600 --> 00:15:13,360 Speaker 3: and I was just laughing at him. I'm like, you 288 00:15:13,400 --> 00:15:17,080 Speaker 3: guys are so clueless. This is not the crazy right wing. 289 00:15:17,160 --> 00:15:20,560 Speaker 3: This is soccer moms. This is soccer moms who love 290 00:15:20,680 --> 00:15:24,160 Speaker 3: their daughters. And we land on this issue. And then 291 00:15:24,200 --> 00:15:27,280 Speaker 3: you saw senate races all across the country pick up 292 00:15:27,320 --> 00:15:29,600 Speaker 3: the same message because they were seeing the same data 293 00:15:29,600 --> 00:15:32,800 Speaker 3: we where we saw President Trump lean in Harvard on this. 294 00:15:33,280 --> 00:15:35,760 Speaker 2: Some of those women that you were talking to, let's 295 00:15:35,800 --> 00:15:39,520 Speaker 2: be very clear, had moved from California, because you know, 296 00:15:39,800 --> 00:15:42,920 Speaker 2: the like, how many people from California moved to Texas 297 00:15:43,320 --> 00:15:45,160 Speaker 2: over the last six years A lot. 298 00:15:45,880 --> 00:15:48,360 Speaker 3: We have over one thousand people a day moving to 299 00:15:48,400 --> 00:15:52,600 Speaker 3: the state of Texas, and California is overwhelmingly the heaviest, 300 00:15:53,280 --> 00:15:56,680 Speaker 3: the largest state that is sending people to Texas. But 301 00:15:57,080 --> 00:16:00,000 Speaker 3: this issue, what's fascinating Ben, is you know four years 302 00:16:00,040 --> 00:16:03,680 Speaker 3: years ago, this issue did not work politically. You saw 303 00:16:03,720 --> 00:16:06,360 Speaker 3: campaigns try to raise it four years ago, and I 304 00:16:06,400 --> 00:16:08,880 Speaker 3: think people thought then that that that it was jumping 305 00:16:08,920 --> 00:16:11,840 Speaker 3: the shark, that it didn't feel real. Four years ago, 306 00:16:11,880 --> 00:16:13,880 Speaker 3: I think people said, oh, come on, that's that's that's 307 00:16:13,960 --> 00:16:16,720 Speaker 3: not a real threat. Well, you know what, we've now 308 00:16:16,840 --> 00:16:20,880 Speaker 3: seen Leah Thomas, the the the the swimmer who who 309 00:16:20,960 --> 00:16:23,800 Speaker 3: is a biological man and looks like Michael friggin Phelps 310 00:16:24,920 --> 00:16:29,120 Speaker 3: who who who We've also seen And I think this 311 00:16:29,240 --> 00:16:32,160 Speaker 3: was really a seminal moment in the Olympics, the two 312 00:16:32,280 --> 00:16:36,160 Speaker 3: dudes competing in in in women's boxing and beating the 313 00:16:36,200 --> 00:16:37,680 Speaker 3: hell out of women. And I think a whole lot 314 00:16:37,680 --> 00:16:40,800 Speaker 3: of people said, wait, this is not theoretical. This is 315 00:16:40,840 --> 00:16:44,800 Speaker 3: happening over and over and over again. Enough is enough 316 00:16:45,280 --> 00:16:48,080 Speaker 3: And and I think this is another milestone that that 317 00:16:48,240 --> 00:16:53,320 Speaker 3: California is retreating on this issue, shows that that truth 318 00:16:53,360 --> 00:16:55,360 Speaker 3: and sanity are are are winning. 319 00:16:56,320 --> 00:16:59,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, And now the question becomes how much are they 320 00:16:59,240 --> 00:17:01,360 Speaker 2: going to be able to fight through the court system 321 00:17:01,440 --> 00:17:03,160 Speaker 2: and is this going to be something that's going to 322 00:17:03,160 --> 00:17:05,440 Speaker 2: be unfortunately an issue for probably years to come. 323 00:17:06,080 --> 00:17:09,080 Speaker 3: Well, look, we'll see and to be honest, California hasn't 324 00:17:09,080 --> 00:17:13,680 Speaker 3: conceded altogether. They're still having biological males compete against women, 325 00:17:13,760 --> 00:17:16,679 Speaker 3: which is which is unfair. It invites injury. You know, 326 00:17:16,680 --> 00:17:20,040 Speaker 3: if you're playing volleyball, we've seen women who have a 327 00:17:20,080 --> 00:17:22,639 Speaker 3: biological man spiked the ball into their head and they 328 00:17:22,640 --> 00:17:25,639 Speaker 3: get injured. I mean, I mean it is California is 329 00:17:25,680 --> 00:17:28,800 Speaker 3: still looney tunes. But the fact that that that even 330 00:17:29,400 --> 00:17:33,120 Speaker 3: the lefty government of California is saying we've gone too far, 331 00:17:34,119 --> 00:17:35,399 Speaker 3: that's a very positive sign. 332 00:17:35,680 --> 00:17:37,600 Speaker 2: As before, if you want to hear the rest of 333 00:17:37,600 --> 00:17:40,520 Speaker 2: this conversation on this topic, you can go back and 334 00:17:40,600 --> 00:17:43,040 Speaker 2: dow the podcast from earlier this week to hear the 335 00:17:43,200 --> 00:17:46,560 Speaker 2: entire thing. I want to get back to the big 336 00:17:46,760 --> 00:17:48,040 Speaker 2: story number three of the week. 337 00:17:48,080 --> 00:17:49,120 Speaker 1: You may have missed. 338 00:17:49,359 --> 00:17:51,679 Speaker 3: Unless the head of the FBI is calling for the 339 00:17:51,760 --> 00:17:54,639 Speaker 3: murder of the president of the United States. And that 340 00:17:54,720 --> 00:17:56,960 Speaker 3: is another story that broke in the last few days. 341 00:17:57,480 --> 00:18:02,040 Speaker 3: So the former FBI director James Comey, he tweeted out 342 00:18:02,320 --> 00:18:06,600 Speaker 3: this this image and it is an image of seashells 343 00:18:06,640 --> 00:18:10,840 Speaker 3: on the beach that spell out eighty six forty seven. 344 00:18:11,560 --> 00:18:16,000 Speaker 3: Now forty seven is obviously Donald Trump and eighty six 345 00:18:16,080 --> 00:18:19,359 Speaker 3: on the face of it. To eighty six someone is 346 00:18:19,440 --> 00:18:23,439 Speaker 3: standard slang for killing someone, And as I posted on 347 00:18:23,480 --> 00:18:26,880 Speaker 3: social media, is there any other reasonable interpretation of this 348 00:18:27,720 --> 00:18:32,280 Speaker 3: other than the former head of the FBI publicly calling 349 00:18:33,040 --> 00:18:35,399 Speaker 3: for the murder of the president of the United States 350 00:18:35,480 --> 00:18:38,080 Speaker 3: and Comy backed away from it. I got to say, 351 00:18:38,119 --> 00:18:39,600 Speaker 3: part of the reason I think he put it out 352 00:18:39,840 --> 00:18:41,399 Speaker 3: is he's got a new book coming out and he 353 00:18:41,440 --> 00:18:48,920 Speaker 3: wanted some attention. But it is unimaginable that a head 354 00:18:48,960 --> 00:18:53,440 Speaker 3: of the FBI would be particularly a president who has 355 00:18:53,440 --> 00:18:57,679 Speaker 3: had two assassination attempts. This is not theoretical. Donald Trump 356 00:18:57,800 --> 00:19:01,119 Speaker 3: was shot, He came within a half finch of being 357 00:19:01,400 --> 00:19:06,400 Speaker 3: killed in Butler, Pennsylvania, and yet the head of the 358 00:19:06,480 --> 00:19:11,080 Speaker 3: FBI is openly calling for people to eighty six Donald Trump. 359 00:19:11,720 --> 00:19:14,000 Speaker 2: Well, and not only as you mentioned, is it a 360 00:19:14,080 --> 00:19:17,320 Speaker 2: dog whistle, but also, yeah, he had a book coming out, 361 00:19:17,359 --> 00:19:20,080 Speaker 2: He's like, hey, if I do this, and maybe they're 362 00:19:20,119 --> 00:19:22,720 Speaker 2: just narcissm and arrogance to a level that even I 363 00:19:22,760 --> 00:19:25,439 Speaker 2: didn't realize with him, and I thought it was pretty 364 00:19:25,480 --> 00:19:29,720 Speaker 2: high where he's like, I'm I'm I'm so powerful, I 365 00:19:29,760 --> 00:19:32,120 Speaker 2: can get away with this, and then everybody will want 366 00:19:32,119 --> 00:19:35,520 Speaker 2: to interview me. I get to dog whistle this against 367 00:19:35,560 --> 00:19:39,240 Speaker 2: the president while also guaranteeing that every single show will 368 00:19:39,280 --> 00:19:42,840 Speaker 2: want to book me to talk about my book AKA and. 369 00:19:42,840 --> 00:19:44,879 Speaker 1: Also the seashells on the Beach. 370 00:19:45,240 --> 00:19:47,720 Speaker 2: It was one hell of a move, and I think 371 00:19:47,720 --> 00:19:49,960 Speaker 2: it's one where he thought, nothing's gonna happen to me 372 00:19:50,040 --> 00:19:52,280 Speaker 2: even if I do get interviewed by the Secret Service. 373 00:19:52,320 --> 00:19:53,960 Speaker 1: Who cares well? 374 00:19:54,040 --> 00:19:57,880 Speaker 3: And I will say he doubled down this week by 375 00:19:58,480 --> 00:20:02,000 Speaker 3: calling on the FBI eventually to fight the President of 376 00:20:02,040 --> 00:20:06,439 Speaker 3: the United States, and and and and accusing the Trump 377 00:20:06,480 --> 00:20:12,080 Speaker 3: administration of being, in his words, quite white supremacists adjacent. 378 00:20:12,119 --> 00:20:16,280 Speaker 3: Listen to this, So follow up on the CShell situation 379 00:20:17,040 --> 00:20:20,720 Speaker 3: when explaining why you took it down? But what were 380 00:20:20,720 --> 00:20:25,080 Speaker 3: you trying to communicate to the public, Impete Trump? What 381 00:20:25,320 --> 00:20:26,800 Speaker 3: was your reasoning for it? 382 00:20:27,240 --> 00:20:27,359 Speaker 6: No? 383 00:20:27,400 --> 00:20:30,199 Speaker 9: I just thought it was a cool picture. Someone was 384 00:20:30,200 --> 00:20:33,119 Speaker 9: expressing a political view in a very clever way in 385 00:20:33,200 --> 00:20:35,399 Speaker 9: shells that were organized by the like they had the 386 00:20:35,440 --> 00:20:37,560 Speaker 9: same color for each of the letters. I just thought, 387 00:20:37,560 --> 00:20:40,200 Speaker 9: what a cool thing. And I'm well known as a 388 00:20:40,200 --> 00:20:42,879 Speaker 9: political opponent of Donald Trump, and I just thought, well, 389 00:20:42,920 --> 00:20:47,800 Speaker 9: that's cool. My Instagram account is family politics stuff, including 390 00:20:47,800 --> 00:20:50,280 Speaker 9: stuff like this. I put a shell on last fall. 391 00:20:50,320 --> 00:20:52,119 Speaker 9: I thought it was cool. Someone had painted the inside 392 00:20:52,160 --> 00:20:54,920 Speaker 9: of a big shell, say Bo Kamala. I thought that's 393 00:20:54,960 --> 00:20:56,960 Speaker 9: really cool, so I put that on. But so it's 394 00:20:57,000 --> 00:20:58,719 Speaker 9: not any particular message other than that. 395 00:20:59,760 --> 00:21:02,359 Speaker 10: I'm just gonna ask youp it the MSNBC interview you 396 00:21:02,400 --> 00:21:06,560 Speaker 10: were doing, because on social media everyone's saying he's talking 397 00:21:06,560 --> 00:21:12,800 Speaker 10: about the white supremacist adjacent Republican Party. Everybody in the party, voters. 398 00:21:12,920 --> 00:21:13,920 Speaker 1: What what's you want. 399 00:21:13,840 --> 00:21:17,400 Speaker 10: To No clarification at all. 400 00:21:17,400 --> 00:21:18,240 Speaker 1: No, I'm not gonna come on. 401 00:21:18,400 --> 00:21:20,960 Speaker 9: Okay, thank you, well, thank you, hello. 402 00:21:21,480 --> 00:21:21,959 Speaker 1: I love it. 403 00:21:22,040 --> 00:21:24,000 Speaker 2: Be well, I'm not going to clarify and that I'm 404 00:21:24,000 --> 00:21:25,600 Speaker 2: going to keep that out there as well. 405 00:21:25,640 --> 00:21:30,879 Speaker 3: Buy my book what utter garbage. Oh, I just thought 406 00:21:30,880 --> 00:21:34,239 Speaker 3: it was kind of interesting. I just thought it was, uh, 407 00:21:35,119 --> 00:21:38,399 Speaker 3: you know, kind of pretty. The seashells were pretty, Like 408 00:21:39,160 --> 00:21:46,159 Speaker 3: what an absurd claim, and that there's something mocking about it, 409 00:21:46,720 --> 00:21:51,280 Speaker 3: that that that he could claim. Okay, number one, James 410 00:21:51,280 --> 00:21:52,680 Speaker 3: Comey is not a stupid man. 411 00:21:53,720 --> 00:21:55,160 Speaker 1: He's smart. He knows what he's doing. 412 00:21:55,600 --> 00:22:01,800 Speaker 3: He knows exactly what he is doing. And James Comy 413 00:22:02,119 --> 00:22:04,720 Speaker 3: number one, he knows who forty seven is. He knows 414 00:22:04,760 --> 00:22:07,359 Speaker 3: exactly who forty seven is. Forty seven is the forty 415 00:22:07,400 --> 00:22:12,280 Speaker 3: seventh President of the United States, Donald J. Trump, number two. 416 00:22:13,119 --> 00:22:18,439 Speaker 3: The claim that he didn't know what eighty six is. Listen, 417 00:22:18,520 --> 00:22:25,320 Speaker 3: that is that that is absurd, It is it is 418 00:22:25,359 --> 00:22:28,199 Speaker 3: not remotely credible. And the fact that he's saying that, 419 00:22:29,160 --> 00:22:31,720 Speaker 3: the fact that he's saying that is mocking. It is 420 00:22:31,760 --> 00:22:35,520 Speaker 3: a level of contempt. And listen. I gotta say, I 421 00:22:35,560 --> 00:22:41,919 Speaker 3: don't know Comy personally, but in my view, he is 422 00:22:42,080 --> 00:22:46,080 Speaker 3: someone who was consumed by power. When he was the 423 00:22:46,119 --> 00:22:48,560 Speaker 3: head of the FBI, I think he had delusions of grandeur. 424 00:22:48,560 --> 00:22:51,280 Speaker 3: I think he believed he was j. Edgar Hoover and 425 00:22:51,320 --> 00:22:54,920 Speaker 3: he wanted to have presidents of the United States reporting 426 00:22:54,960 --> 00:22:58,359 Speaker 3: to him. By the way, do you happen to know 427 00:22:58,400 --> 00:23:00,399 Speaker 3: off the top of your top of your head what 428 00:23:00,480 --> 00:23:04,600 Speaker 3: eighteen USC. Section eight seventy one provides, No, what is it? 429 00:23:05,160 --> 00:23:08,639 Speaker 3: What's funny? It's actually a felony. Threatening the President of 430 00:23:08,640 --> 00:23:11,040 Speaker 3: the United States is a felony that's punishable buy up 431 00:23:11,080 --> 00:23:13,800 Speaker 3: to five years in Prisonman, you would think the head 432 00:23:13,800 --> 00:23:17,520 Speaker 3: of the FBI would know that, and yet he blithely said, oh, 433 00:23:17,600 --> 00:23:20,919 Speaker 3: I just saw some pretty seashells. You know, nothing to 434 00:23:20,960 --> 00:23:22,480 Speaker 3: see here, And. 435 00:23:22,480 --> 00:23:25,000 Speaker 2: Let's just remind people when you said that he's smart. 436 00:23:25,560 --> 00:23:29,000 Speaker 2: This is the same guy that mocked the Trump administration 437 00:23:29,359 --> 00:23:32,280 Speaker 2: the first time, right when they got into office, when 438 00:23:32,320 --> 00:23:34,680 Speaker 2: he just sent a couple FBI agents over to try 439 00:23:34,720 --> 00:23:37,920 Speaker 2: to entrap General Flynn. Like, never forget, that's how calculated 440 00:23:37,960 --> 00:23:39,679 Speaker 2: this guy is. So for him to say, oh, I 441 00:23:39,720 --> 00:23:41,199 Speaker 2: just saw a picture here and I thought it was 442 00:23:41,240 --> 00:23:44,000 Speaker 2: really cute to seashells, I don't buy that crap for 443 00:23:44,040 --> 00:23:44,560 Speaker 2: a moment. 444 00:23:44,920 --> 00:23:48,399 Speaker 3: He proposed sending someone wearing a wire to entrap the 445 00:23:48,400 --> 00:23:50,080 Speaker 3: president of the United States. And I want you to 446 00:23:50,119 --> 00:23:53,840 Speaker 3: listen to him with Nicole Wallace and MSNBC, because I 447 00:23:53,880 --> 00:23:59,280 Speaker 3: want you to listen to just this, this smarmy, sanctimonious, 448 00:23:59,320 --> 00:24:01,520 Speaker 3: dishonest You can tell what I think about him here, 449 00:24:01,920 --> 00:24:03,720 Speaker 3: just play his words and see if you agree with me. 450 00:24:04,640 --> 00:24:07,679 Speaker 6: You are back in the middle of a political firestorm. 451 00:24:08,720 --> 00:24:11,159 Speaker 9: Yeah for walking on the beach with my wife. So 452 00:24:12,040 --> 00:24:13,560 Speaker 9: I don't know how we ended up here. Never occurred 453 00:24:13,600 --> 00:24:15,560 Speaker 9: to me that it was any kind of controversial thing, 454 00:24:15,640 --> 00:24:16,880 Speaker 9: But that's the time. 455 00:24:16,880 --> 00:24:21,080 Speaker 3: We live in Okay, Ben, there's a technical word for 456 00:24:21,119 --> 00:24:23,720 Speaker 3: what he just said there that would be called a lie. 457 00:24:24,080 --> 00:24:27,040 Speaker 3: He is deliberately lying, he knows he's lying. He is 458 00:24:27,080 --> 00:24:29,480 Speaker 3: not in trouble for walking on the beach with his wife. 459 00:24:29,880 --> 00:24:34,000 Speaker 3: He is understandably in trouble for publicly advocating the murder 460 00:24:34,000 --> 00:24:35,320 Speaker 3: of the president of the United States. 461 00:24:35,760 --> 00:24:37,760 Speaker 2: And yet there's a lot of you think he knew 462 00:24:37,800 --> 00:24:40,000 Speaker 2: exactly what he was doing. And yeah, he may get 463 00:24:40,040 --> 00:24:42,040 Speaker 2: hauled in for some questioning, but he's not going to 464 00:24:42,040 --> 00:24:44,000 Speaker 2: get arrested because he's a former. 465 00:24:43,760 --> 00:24:46,159 Speaker 1: AMBI director and that guy never gets in trouble. 466 00:24:46,240 --> 00:24:46,440 Speaker 9: Right. 467 00:24:46,760 --> 00:24:50,439 Speaker 3: Well, we shall see. I will say Cash Betel and 468 00:24:50,520 --> 00:24:54,000 Speaker 3: Dan Bongino are not your typical heads of the FBI. 469 00:24:54,480 --> 00:24:57,760 Speaker 2: As always, thank you for listening to Verdict with Center, 470 00:24:57,840 --> 00:25:00,280 Speaker 2: Ted Cruz Ben Ferguson with you don't forget to down 471 00:25:00,359 --> 00:25:02,600 Speaker 2: with my podcast and you can listen to my podcasts 472 00:25:02,600 --> 00:25:04,600 Speaker 2: every other day you're not listening to Verdict or each 473 00:25:04,640 --> 00:25:07,080 Speaker 2: day when you listen to Verdict. Afterwards, I'd love to 474 00:25:07,119 --> 00:25:10,200 Speaker 2: have you as a listener to again the Ben Ferguson podcasts, 475 00:25:10,200 --> 00:25:12,720 Speaker 2: and we will see you back here on Monday morning.