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Speaker 3: Jmart My man, what is going on with you? My friend?

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Speaker 1: What's happening? What's happening? Ben's It's weird when you have

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Speaker 1: the triple header NFL on Saturday, but you've also had what, like,

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Speaker 1: I mean, you had Carolina Kansas, you had Arizona Purdue

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Speaker 1: or I'm sorry, Carolina Kentucky and Arizona and Purdue, and

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Speaker 1: uh this was we had Yukon and Gonzaga last night.

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Speaker 1: Those are three really solid college oops games, and of

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Speaker 1: course there's a ton of storylines going into tomorrow's NFL matchups,

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Speaker 1: and every team that played today had a pathway to

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Speaker 1: the playoffs when it started. That was sort of interesting,

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Speaker 1: even though I don't know that these were games that

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Speaker 1: just captivated the universe from start to finish. You weren't

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Speaker 1: watching a bunch of two win teams today. Everybody that

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Speaker 1: played there was skin in the game. There was reason

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Speaker 1: to watch, and that's usually not the case with these games,

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Speaker 1: Like one or two of these end up being dogs

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Speaker 1: before they ever start, and we didn't have that today.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's really funny, you know. Listen.

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Speaker 2: Obviously, being in this timeslot, we talked so much college football.

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Speaker 2: You and I both love college football, but there is

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Speaker 2: something fun about the Saturday when we get NFL. You know,

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Speaker 2: it's kind of this time of year. It's in the

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Speaker 2: lead up to the playoffs, and we obviously get Wildcard

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Speaker 2: weekend with multiple games in the divisional round with multiple games,

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Speaker 2: and so I enjoy it. And then, like you said,

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Speaker 2: it just feels like just a fun crossover of NFL

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Speaker 2: on Saturdays. But we still got the early bowl games. No,

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Speaker 2: there are no such thing as too many bowl games.

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Speaker 2: Don't watch if you're not interested, but you kind of

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Speaker 2: have that on in the background. As you said, major

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Speaker 2: college football, and later on in the show, by the way,

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Speaker 2: there's plenty of NBA and Major League Baseball to talk

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Speaker 2: about with the new twist on the Otani contract since

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Speaker 2: the last time we were on air, you and I

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Speaker 2: came on just hours after the initial deal was done.

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Speaker 2: But let's just start, Jason with today's playoff games. I mean,

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Speaker 2: I think they're all, as you said, noteworthy in their

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Speaker 2: own way because they all have at least loose playoff implications.

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Speaker 2: Want to start with the one that's going on now.

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Speaker 2: Detroit is hosting the Denver Broncos. Broncos obviously had been

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Speaker 2: playing really well, Detroit coming off a bad loss to

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Speaker 2: the Chicago Bears a few days ago, but Detroit largely

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Speaker 2: taking care of business in this game. They've kind of

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Speaker 2: been in control the entire game. It's never really been

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Speaker 2: in doubt. As we are now in the fourth quarter

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Speaker 2: in Detroit and the Detroit Lions are in command thirty five.

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Speaker 2: I'm seventeen with about six and a half minutes to go.

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Speaker 2: You know, from the Detroit perspective, Jason, I just kind

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Speaker 2: of want to rip through these games. I don't know

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Speaker 2: that there's an amazing takeaway, but I guess what I

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Speaker 2: would just say is this is, you know, Detroit is

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Speaker 2: exactly who we think they are, right, Dennis Green, the

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Speaker 2: old They are who we thought they were. They're great

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Speaker 2: at home, you know, obviously, when they have to deal

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Speaker 2: weeks ago or last week, excuse me, some of the

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Speaker 2: other games they've had throughout the year, it feels like

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Speaker 2: they can't struggle. Jared Goff is obviously much better in

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Speaker 2: the controlled environment. But when they get in that dome,

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Speaker 2: and obviously all signs are pointing towards at least one

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Speaker 2: Like this team, I don't know, there's like an amazing takeaway,

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Speaker 2: but I just think they are exactly who we thought

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Speaker 3: Once they leave it, once they leave Detroit.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and they've dealbtle some health issues and they have

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Speaker 1: been a little inconsistent. This is a game they needed, honestly,

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Speaker 1: did look at some things. One thing, this game was

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Speaker 1: They've been in tight games. Usually it's not sustainable to

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Speaker 2: Just the wild card race in the AFC JSON I

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Speaker 2: don't know how closely you've been monitoring it, it's kind

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Speaker 2: So you're talking about three wildcard spots with really what

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Speaker 2: but they have the best quarterbacks. Can they sustain it?

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Speaker 2: We know what Joe Flacco is doing in Cleveland. I

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Speaker 2: kind of lead the show, Jason, four of them played

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and a lot of these teams are banged up,

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Speaker 1: and we'll talk about the quarterbacks a little bit later

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Speaker 1: on in the program. But I mean a ton of

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Speaker 1: I don't necessarily mean which teams are better. I think

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Speaker 1: But I trying to pick between these teams and from

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Speaker 1: no idea. I don't think any of those teams are

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Speaker 2: You know what's funny is and I'm sure the guys

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Speaker 1: Well, I pretty much agreed with you.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I look like a darn super Bowl contender last week.

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Speaker 2: So you know, I'm just sitting there saying, like, you know,

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Speaker 2: And then based on how they're playing, it's probably Dallas too.

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Speaker 2: Now I know Dallas, you know, they haven't done it

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Speaker 2: playing it this moment in time, would you say Dallas's

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Speaker 1: Jayson, Yes, absolutely. I mean the win that that franchise

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Speaker 1: That's the one that they don't win last year. That's

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Speaker 1: again and all this. No, they were the better team.

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Speaker 2: we're just talking about the AFC South Indianapolis wins today.

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Speaker 2: They're a half a game back of the Jacksonville Jaguars,

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Speaker 1: a defensive guru there coach, and we ended up bringing

432
00:21:56,800 --> 00:21:58,920
Speaker 1: him in and he gets exposed and we have to

433
00:21:58,920 --> 00:22:02,120
Speaker 1: get him out of dodge. Nick Joey Bosa can't stay

434
00:22:02,160 --> 00:22:04,160
Speaker 1: on the field, and even when he is there, he's

435
00:22:04,200 --> 00:22:06,800
Speaker 1: not the dominant force that he once was. Derwin James

436
00:22:07,119 --> 00:22:09,440
Speaker 1: I was listening to Mike Sando and Randy mull Randy

437
00:22:09,480 --> 00:22:12,120
Speaker 1: Mueller on The Athletic Football Show talking about the Chargers

438
00:22:12,920 --> 00:22:15,360
Speaker 1: from a front office perspective, and Mueller had been there

439
00:22:15,359 --> 00:22:16,800
Speaker 1: for a little while, and he said, look, this is

440
00:22:16,800 --> 00:22:19,400
Speaker 1: just the way it is there. They don't want alpha coaches.

441
00:22:19,760 --> 00:22:22,240
Speaker 1: They don't want the Marty Shot and Hybern types. They

442
00:22:22,280 --> 00:22:25,159
Speaker 1: don't want those guys. They want these first time dudes

443
00:22:25,440 --> 00:22:28,600
Speaker 1: who kind of just because they're happy in that front

444
00:22:28,600 --> 00:22:31,639
Speaker 1: office just kind of being okay, they're not out to

445
00:22:31,760 --> 00:22:35,359
Speaker 1: be they don't need to go thirteen and three and

446
00:22:35,400 --> 00:22:37,920
Speaker 1: all this. And they moved to a different topic, which

447
00:22:37,960 --> 00:22:40,320
Speaker 1: I think we can get to at some point about

448
00:22:40,359 --> 00:22:42,879
Speaker 1: who comes next and all of this and what this

449
00:22:42,960 --> 00:22:45,760
Speaker 1: team needs and what this franchise needs because the culture

450
00:22:45,800 --> 00:22:48,439
Speaker 1: has always been one way and it's really hard to

451
00:22:48,440 --> 00:22:51,800
Speaker 1: win and all of these things. So that's the Telesco

452
00:22:51,960 --> 00:22:55,120
Speaker 1: side of this, but the Stay side is and this

453
00:22:55,320 --> 00:22:58,160
Speaker 1: was just I don't know if you saw this headline.

454
00:22:58,320 --> 00:23:02,040
Speaker 1: I saw his headline reading just various sites after the

455
00:23:02,080 --> 00:23:04,960
Speaker 1: Stalwey scenario went down, just because I wanted to know

456
00:23:05,000 --> 00:23:07,720
Speaker 1: what people what the reaction was, and how it was

457
00:23:07,760 --> 00:23:10,920
Speaker 1: being framed. In the Athletics first story, and it was

458
00:23:10,960 --> 00:23:12,800
Speaker 1: a quote It was a quote and I guess it

459
00:23:12,840 --> 00:23:14,560
Speaker 1: came from another coach or something like that, and it

460
00:23:14,600 --> 00:23:17,440
Speaker 1: said Brandon Staley was too smart for his own good.

461
00:23:20,560 --> 00:23:23,080
Speaker 1: I got a problem with that. Sure, I don't need

462
00:23:23,119 --> 00:23:26,120
Speaker 1: to hear about how smart Brandon Staley is. Well, part

463
00:23:26,160 --> 00:23:29,160
Speaker 1: of Brandon Steaey's deal was the way he decided things

464
00:23:29,200 --> 00:23:32,280
Speaker 1: at the end of games and analytics. He was arrogant

465
00:23:32,359 --> 00:23:36,119
Speaker 1: in terms of how he came across about his own intelligence.

466
00:23:36,119 --> 00:23:38,560
Speaker 1: He was super confident in his own ability to be

467
00:23:38,560 --> 00:23:41,320
Speaker 1: better than everybody else and all of that. But like,

468
00:23:41,960 --> 00:23:45,280
Speaker 1: don't tell me he was too smart for his own good.

469
00:23:45,359 --> 00:23:47,679
Speaker 1: You can tell me he thought he was too smart,

470
00:23:48,440 --> 00:23:50,600
Speaker 1: but you can't tell me he was too smart for

471
00:23:50,640 --> 00:23:52,680
Speaker 1: his own good. He's the smartest guy in the room

472
00:23:52,720 --> 00:23:55,880
Speaker 1: and all this, like, no, no, he did not run

473
00:23:55,920 --> 00:23:58,080
Speaker 1: that organ He did not run that team. He did

474
00:23:58,080 --> 00:24:00,760
Speaker 1: not coach that team as if he was the smartest

475
00:24:00,760 --> 00:24:02,720
Speaker 1: guy in the room and throwing everybody under the bus

476
00:24:02,800 --> 00:24:06,840
Speaker 1: and saying it's all execution. My my master plan was great,

477
00:24:06,920 --> 00:24:09,760
Speaker 1: Like he was doctor Evil or something like that didn't

478
00:24:09,800 --> 00:24:10,920
Speaker 1: help him very much either.

479
00:24:11,080 --> 00:24:14,600
Speaker 2: Well, And and you know that's what I think, to

480
00:24:14,680 --> 00:24:17,760
Speaker 2: me really stands out is maybe he is a very

481
00:24:17,760 --> 00:24:20,879
Speaker 2: smart guy, and maybe he is really good on a

482
00:24:20,920 --> 00:24:24,879
Speaker 2: whiteboard and really good behind closed doors and whatever. I

483
00:24:24,920 --> 00:24:28,680
Speaker 2: bring it up to just say, if that doesn't translate

484
00:24:28,840 --> 00:24:31,800
Speaker 2: to to you know, how you teach the game and

485
00:24:31,840 --> 00:24:34,480
Speaker 2: how you uh, you know how how how the players

486
00:24:34,880 --> 00:24:35,560
Speaker 2: respond to.

487
00:24:35,520 --> 00:24:37,440
Speaker 3: It, then none of it matters.

488
00:24:37,640 --> 00:24:40,040
Speaker 2: That's right, and that's and that's my my big thing

489
00:24:40,119 --> 00:24:42,000
Speaker 2: is you talk about being too smart for your own good.

490
00:24:43,440 --> 00:24:47,560
Speaker 2: I do think there is something to this perspective, Jason.

491
00:24:47,560 --> 00:24:50,560
Speaker 2: I heard Julian Edelman say this again on The Herd yesterday.

492
00:24:50,600 --> 00:24:52,240
Speaker 2: They had a lot of great coverage of you know,

493
00:24:52,359 --> 00:24:54,679
Speaker 2: j Mack and Colin and everybody behind the scenes there

494
00:24:54,680 --> 00:24:57,560
Speaker 2: did a great job with that breaking news. I just

495
00:24:57,560 --> 00:25:00,679
Speaker 2: bring it up because Julian Edelman came on and he

496
00:25:00,720 --> 00:25:04,520
Speaker 2: said something that was my take, and then I forgot

497
00:25:04,560 --> 00:25:06,600
Speaker 2: it was my take because Brandon Staley has done so

498
00:25:06,680 --> 00:25:08,320
Speaker 2: many other things since then.

499
00:25:08,880 --> 00:25:13,160
Speaker 3: But I go back to year one. He was the

500
00:25:13,240 --> 00:25:15,040
Speaker 3: analytics guy, and this.

501
00:25:14,960 --> 00:25:17,080
Speaker 2: Is what we're gonna do, and it's we're gonna trust

502
00:25:17,160 --> 00:25:19,200
Speaker 2: the we're gonna trust the numbers, and we're gonna trust

503
00:25:19,200 --> 00:25:21,320
Speaker 2: the data. And I don't care if it looks weird

504
00:25:21,320 --> 00:25:22,920
Speaker 2: to you, and I don't care if it doesn't work.

505
00:25:23,359 --> 00:25:24,399
Speaker 3: This is what we're gonna do.

506
00:25:24,880 --> 00:25:28,719
Speaker 2: And then you had that Week eighteen game in Vegas

507
00:25:28,960 --> 00:25:31,680
Speaker 2: where you're going forward on your own twenty yard line

508
00:25:31,760 --> 00:25:33,639
Speaker 2: or whatever it was, maybe it was the twenty five, whatever,

509
00:25:33,800 --> 00:25:37,000
Speaker 2: you get the point. And then the following year he

510
00:25:37,160 --> 00:25:39,359
Speaker 2: was still kind of the analytic by the way, they

511
00:25:39,400 --> 00:25:40,560
Speaker 2: obviously lost that game.

512
00:25:40,800 --> 00:25:43,639
Speaker 3: It was a win, and you're in playoff scenario.

513
00:25:44,080 --> 00:25:47,160
Speaker 2: He loses that game, he gets it was a standalone game,

514
00:25:47,480 --> 00:25:49,280
Speaker 2: you know, a lot like Thursday Night against the Raiders,

515
00:25:49,320 --> 00:25:53,480
Speaker 2: ironically enough, standalone game, national TV, and for a whole

516
00:25:53,480 --> 00:25:57,080
Speaker 2: offseason he gets crushed. And so I bring it up

517
00:25:57,359 --> 00:26:01,920
Speaker 2: because of the fact that you know, he comes back

518
00:26:01,920 --> 00:26:04,520
Speaker 2: the next year and he's sort of the analytics guy,

519
00:26:04,560 --> 00:26:06,680
Speaker 2: but he's sort of not the analytics guy. And that's

520
00:26:06,720 --> 00:26:08,679
Speaker 2: what that's what stands out to me is I just

521
00:26:08,720 --> 00:26:11,320
Speaker 2: think he completely lost his way, where maybe he is

522
00:26:11,359 --> 00:26:13,199
Speaker 2: great on a whiteboard, maybe he is this, maybe he's

523
00:26:13,240 --> 00:26:15,040
Speaker 2: a very smart guy behind the scenes. I mean, he

524
00:26:15,080 --> 00:26:16,880
Speaker 2: must have done something right to get that job, although

525
00:26:16,880 --> 00:26:19,560
Speaker 2: obviously being on the RAMS staff at the particular time

526
00:26:19,560 --> 00:26:22,439
Speaker 2: that he was hired, certainly didn't hurt. But I just

527
00:26:22,480 --> 00:26:25,119
Speaker 2: bring it up to say, I just think it's so

528
00:26:25,320 --> 00:26:28,000
Speaker 2: obvious that even if he did have a plan, even

529
00:26:28,040 --> 00:26:30,440
Speaker 2: if he did have a brand, if you will, whatever

530
00:26:30,480 --> 00:26:33,439
Speaker 2: you want to call it, he clearly lost confidence in

531
00:26:33,480 --> 00:26:34,439
Speaker 2: his ability to do it.

532
00:26:34,480 --> 00:26:35,440
Speaker 3: And then it was clear.

533
00:26:35,840 --> 00:26:37,280
Speaker 2: I think it was clear about a year year and

534
00:26:37,320 --> 00:26:40,760
Speaker 2: a half ago that his team lost confidence in him,

535
00:26:41,359 --> 00:26:43,600
Speaker 2: and it just kept getting worse and kept getting worse,

536
00:26:43,720 --> 00:26:46,760
Speaker 2: and obviously it was highlighted, of course, by what happened

537
00:26:46,760 --> 00:26:48,680
Speaker 2: the other night against the Raiders.

538
00:26:48,920 --> 00:26:52,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I didn't want to see this happen,

539
00:26:52,520 --> 00:26:56,879
Speaker 1: but we both said this was coming, maybe not this disastrously.

540
00:26:57,640 --> 00:26:59,400
Speaker 1: I just felt like they were going to be mediocre

541
00:26:59,440 --> 00:27:01,760
Speaker 1: again this year and they were gonna waste another year.

542
00:27:01,800 --> 00:27:04,000
Speaker 1: And we said it the night they lost that playoff game.

543
00:27:04,200 --> 00:27:07,160
Speaker 1: We both said that night, if it's us, Brandon stay,

544
00:27:07,200 --> 00:27:10,280
Speaker 1: he's not coming back, And to his credit, Bernie Fratto

545
00:27:10,400 --> 00:27:13,199
Speaker 1: came back and said he will be because this is

546
00:27:13,200 --> 00:27:16,560
Speaker 1: how the Chargers organization is run and turned out to

547
00:27:16,600 --> 00:27:19,240
Speaker 1: be exactly right. Now, do you think they're gonna go

548
00:27:19,280 --> 00:27:21,639
Speaker 1: pay a ton of money for a big coach, Probably not,

549
00:27:21,800 --> 00:27:25,600
Speaker 1: because that's just not what the Chargers do. I can't

550
00:27:25,600 --> 00:27:29,720
Speaker 1: imagine being a fan of that team based on how

551
00:27:29,760 --> 00:27:32,240
Speaker 1: they operate and the more that we hear about sort

552
00:27:32,240 --> 00:27:34,480
Speaker 1: of the internal workings and the way they don't like

553
00:27:34,560 --> 00:27:37,440
Speaker 1: to spend money, and the way that they are satisfied

554
00:27:37,480 --> 00:27:41,360
Speaker 1: with mediocrity. It's a problem. That's not what I want

555
00:27:41,400 --> 00:27:43,960
Speaker 1: to hear as a fan. At the very least, whatever

556
00:27:44,000 --> 00:27:45,480
Speaker 1: you want to say about what happened in the Denver

557
00:27:45,640 --> 00:27:48,879
Speaker 1: experiment and whatever's happening with us right now, I'm so

558
00:27:49,040 --> 00:27:51,280
Speaker 1: glad we went out and made the big swing for

559
00:27:51,320 --> 00:27:54,359
Speaker 1: Sean Payton, like we tried. Even if it doesn't end

560
00:27:54,400 --> 00:27:58,040
Speaker 1: up bringing us to Super Bowl. We did something my organization,

561
00:27:58,160 --> 00:28:01,000
Speaker 1: the team that I followed my entire career and my

562
00:28:01,160 --> 00:28:04,639
Speaker 1: entire life as a fan. We didn't just sit on

563
00:28:04,640 --> 00:28:07,120
Speaker 1: our laurels. At least the guys went out there and tried.

564
00:28:07,160 --> 00:28:09,560
Speaker 1: I said we three times, and I'm care to do that,

565
00:28:09,720 --> 00:28:14,760
Speaker 1: but I appreciate that. At least show me that you care.

566
00:28:15,320 --> 00:28:18,960
Speaker 1: And it's you spent money with the Chargers. In terms

567
00:28:18,960 --> 00:28:22,560
Speaker 1: of players, none of them played very well on the

568
00:28:22,600 --> 00:28:26,080
Speaker 1: field from my vantage point, But when you make these

569
00:28:26,119 --> 00:28:31,000
Speaker 1: decisions with these coaches now three in a row. There's

570
00:28:31,119 --> 00:28:33,359
Speaker 1: there's a larger problem here, and I think it's a

571
00:28:33,359 --> 00:28:34,280
Speaker 1: culture problem.

572
00:28:34,440 --> 00:28:36,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, one quick thought on that. We'll get to disagree.

573
00:28:36,440 --> 00:28:39,720
Speaker 2: You know, you mentioned the culture problem. One thing I

574
00:28:39,720 --> 00:28:42,960
Speaker 2: can say is something that I have realized. You know,

575
00:28:43,000 --> 00:28:45,200
Speaker 2: you do this long enough, you start to see trends

576
00:28:45,800 --> 00:28:49,760
Speaker 2: and you look at these organizations that have always been bad,

577
00:28:49,920 --> 00:28:53,200
Speaker 2: or these whatever college programs that have always been bad,

578
00:28:53,480 --> 00:28:55,200
Speaker 2: and you just like, oh, I feel bad for the fans,

579
00:28:55,200 --> 00:28:56,480
Speaker 2: and like, I know you just said that, and I'm

580
00:28:56,480 --> 00:28:59,800
Speaker 2: not disagreeing with you, but usually there is a reason

581
00:28:59,840 --> 00:29:02,640
Speaker 2: that the same teams are bad over and over. You know, Like,

582
00:29:03,120 --> 00:29:05,720
Speaker 2: as an example, you and I love college football, Uh,

583
00:29:05,960 --> 00:29:08,240
Speaker 2: Texas A and M. They kept losing games the same way,

584
00:29:08,240 --> 00:29:10,240
Speaker 2: and dah dah dah, and they fired Jimbo Fisher and

585
00:29:10,680 --> 00:29:12,960
Speaker 2: like then all the stories come out about Jimbo Fisher

586
00:29:13,000 --> 00:29:15,400
Speaker 2: and it was like, oh, yeah, he was as stubborn

587
00:29:15,520 --> 00:29:19,400
Speaker 2: and unorganized as everybody said, and the team was a

588
00:29:19,480 --> 00:29:21,800
Speaker 2: mess behind the scenes, and it's like, oh, now it

589
00:29:21,880 --> 00:29:26,240
Speaker 2: makes sense. Why, you know, why why Texas A and

590
00:29:26,360 --> 00:29:28,320
Speaker 2: M has struggled the way that they have, certainly under

591
00:29:28,400 --> 00:29:30,800
Speaker 2: Jimbo Fisher. I bring it up because it feels a

592
00:29:30,840 --> 00:29:33,280
Speaker 2: lot the same with the Chargers, and and you know,

593
00:29:33,480 --> 00:29:36,000
Speaker 2: bring in Disaga, you know, for the update here momentarily.

594
00:29:36,040 --> 00:29:40,440
Speaker 2: But like even the ownership group. I mean, you know,

595
00:29:40,480 --> 00:29:44,040
Speaker 2: you talk about, you know, the way they've handled coaching searches, this,

596
00:29:44,080 --> 00:29:45,680
Speaker 2: that the other thing. But I mean, just think about

597
00:29:45,720 --> 00:29:48,160
Speaker 2: the way that they handled the move from San Diego

598
00:29:48,200 --> 00:29:51,520
Speaker 2: to La you know, leaving a city that loved them

599
00:29:51,600 --> 00:29:52,960
Speaker 2: under weird circumstances.

600
00:29:53,000 --> 00:29:53,720
Speaker 3: Blah blah blah whatever.

601
00:29:53,760 --> 00:29:57,000
Speaker 2: I'll tell you what, Rather than me rambling about the Chargers,

602
00:29:57,040 --> 00:29:58,360
Speaker 2: I'll toss it over the news desk.

603
00:29:58,720 --> 00:30:00,880
Speaker 3: Uh Disager. I know you haven't up date, but obviously

604
00:30:00,880 --> 00:30:01,840
Speaker 3: you're mister Charger.

605
00:30:01,960 --> 00:30:03,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, I want to hear. I want to hear what

606
00:30:03,280 --> 00:30:03,600
Speaker 1: you get.

607
00:30:03,600 --> 00:30:05,640
Speaker 2: Please hop on in and share your thoughts on just

608
00:30:05,680 --> 00:30:07,520
Speaker 2: everything of the last twenty four to forty eight hours.

609
00:30:09,720 --> 00:30:11,960
Speaker 7: And Diego would still have the Chargers if they built

610
00:30:11,960 --> 00:30:13,960
Speaker 7: the stadium. And San Diego would be getting a Super

611
00:30:13,960 --> 00:30:16,000
Speaker 7: Bowl every five to seven years if they had built

612
00:30:16,000 --> 00:30:18,680
Speaker 7: a stadium. But San Diego as a city is not

613
00:30:18,840 --> 00:30:21,280
Speaker 7: better because they don't have the NFL. So for all

614
00:30:21,280 --> 00:30:24,440
Speaker 7: the people and there are plenty Charger fans and ex

615
00:30:24,560 --> 00:30:28,360
Speaker 7: Charger fans who constantly boo this ownership group. There are

616
00:30:28,360 --> 00:30:31,400
Speaker 7: things to boo about. But the move was the fault

617
00:30:31,400 --> 00:30:33,640
Speaker 7: of two people. It was a divorce, and as in

618
00:30:33,720 --> 00:30:37,680
Speaker 7: all divorces, it's two sides right, and there were fifteen

619
00:30:37,920 --> 00:30:40,880
Speaker 7: years to figure that out. In San Diego, the place

620
00:30:41,000 --> 00:30:42,600
Speaker 7: was a dump that they were playing in.

621
00:30:43,040 --> 00:30:44,160
Speaker 3: It got in air press box.

622
00:30:44,160 --> 00:30:46,080
Speaker 2: We've talked about. I covered a few games. I was

623
00:30:46,080 --> 00:30:48,160
Speaker 2: like Mike, it gets cold at San Diego November seven.

624
00:30:48,200 --> 00:30:48,600
Speaker 3: Buck content.

625
00:30:48,800 --> 00:30:52,240
Speaker 7: It was raised after the Chargers moved, which is all

626
00:30:52,400 --> 00:30:54,880
Speaker 7: you need to know. There were good comments that you

627
00:30:54,920 --> 00:30:58,880
Speaker 7: guys made. And I think if they hadn't hired Brandon Staley,

628
00:30:58,920 --> 00:31:01,800
Speaker 7: who'd never been ahead coach, on a four year contract,

629
00:31:01,840 --> 00:31:04,000
Speaker 7: then yeah, they might have gotten rid of him last year.

630
00:31:04,120 --> 00:31:06,360
Speaker 7: But it's their fault for giving him four years in

631
00:31:06,400 --> 00:31:08,720
Speaker 7: the first place. They weren't going to pay off two

632
00:31:08,840 --> 00:31:11,640
Speaker 7: years and let him go after the first two. I also,

633
00:31:11,760 --> 00:31:15,040
Speaker 7: as far as I wouldn't lump all the players in

634
00:31:15,160 --> 00:31:17,960
Speaker 7: like these guys haven't produced. They've been in l all

635
00:31:18,760 --> 00:31:20,960
Speaker 7: Keen and Allen. They've been in LA seven years. He's

636
00:31:20,960 --> 00:31:22,200
Speaker 7: at at least one hundred catches.

637
00:31:22,240 --> 00:31:24,680
Speaker 3: Five of the seventh Charg's been in LA seven years.

638
00:31:24,760 --> 00:31:28,120
Speaker 3: That's correct. In fact, sound possible. I would have said,

639
00:31:28,160 --> 00:31:29,240
Speaker 3: like four, how is it possible?

640
00:31:29,240 --> 00:31:31,480
Speaker 1: I'm still saying San Diego and they've been there.

641
00:31:31,480 --> 00:31:33,760
Speaker 7: I've said that, it's the same thing with the Raiders

642
00:31:33,760 --> 00:31:36,320
Speaker 7: for years. It took a long time actually to go through.

643
00:31:36,360 --> 00:31:39,480
Speaker 7: And Khalil Mack by the way, fifteen sex in fourteen games.

644
00:31:39,560 --> 00:31:43,480
Speaker 7: So as far as Tom telasco, he drafted very well

645
00:31:43,560 --> 00:31:46,880
Speaker 7: at times, I mean very well at times. And then

646
00:31:47,040 --> 00:31:49,560
Speaker 7: there was the signing of J. C. Jackson, and let's

647
00:31:49,640 --> 00:31:53,239
Speaker 7: not forget the hire of Brandon Staley, who was an

648
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Speaker 7: assistant coach at his alma mater. There's your connection and

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Speaker 7: they both got fired yesterday and obviously does so not

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Speaker 7: just because the Chargers have lost five of their last

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Speaker 7: six games. I think what you mentioned, it's been a

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Speaker 7: month and a half of watching this team not have

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Speaker 7: an offense anymore, and essentially to have given up on

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Speaker 7: the season with so many close losses.

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Speaker 1: Did this hurt Kellen Moore? In your opinion, state.

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Speaker 7: It did not help Kellen Moore because the offense needs

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Speaker 7: to be the shining thing on the hill for this

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Speaker 7: franchise on the field. And when you have a guy

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Speaker 7: with I think still superb potential at quarterback and there's

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Speaker 7: a reason they've signed him long term, and you bring

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Speaker 7: an assistant who's I mean, the offensive numbers were superb

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Speaker 7: with Dallas under Kellen Moore, and it just wasn't there

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Speaker 7: this year. I don't say they should let him go

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Speaker 7: automatically or any of that, but that didn't help him.

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Speaker 7: It was a bit of a staint on his resume.

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Speaker 7: It's just one year worth of it, but it didn't help.

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Speaker 7: But GM tom to LESCo going. This was his eleventh

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Speaker 7: year there. The Chargers in the last decade have one

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Speaker 7: playoff win. So he drafted the Keenan Allens and all that.

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Speaker 7: You know, Derwin James and the Herberts and all these guys.

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Speaker 7: I mean, Rashaun Slater at tackle is a superb draft choice.

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Speaker 7: On and on. But Brandon Staley kept himself as defensive

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Speaker 7: play caller this year when he made all these other

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Speaker 7: changes on the staff, and he kept himself as defense.

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Speaker 7: You talk about the arrogance, if that's the right word,

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Speaker 7: the determination on his own behalf, however you want to

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Speaker 7: phrase it. But he had just finished bottom five in

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Speaker 7: the league in run defense his first two years in

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Speaker 7: a row, and kept himself as defensive play caller after

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Speaker 7: blowing a twenty seven to nothing lead in the playoffs,

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Speaker 7: and then this year they're dead last in past defense.

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Speaker 3: So but other than that, what do they say about,

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Speaker 3: how is the play Missus Lincoln? Besides the im mad.

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Speaker 7: How was the prim so including that playoff appear the

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Speaker 7: one playoff appearance the one of the biggest gags we've

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Speaker 7: ever seen in an NFL playoff game a year ago.

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Speaker 7: Stay three seasons with the Chargers went twenty four and

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Speaker 7: twenty five. You mentioned the name Marty Schottenheimer, who this franchise,

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Speaker 7: this ownership group did hire as head coach about twenty

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Speaker 7: years ago. And he did what Marty Schottenheimer does. He

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Speaker 7: took the team to the next level, but not quite there.

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Speaker 7: Drew Brees was not that good a quarterback when he

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Speaker 7: was a Charger. He was not the Drew Brees we

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Speaker 7: think of now in a long, great NFL career. But

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Speaker 7: he got Drew Brees and what had been a losing

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Speaker 7: team into the playoffs. Marty Schottenheimer, there's a lot of

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Speaker 7: good things to say and this ownership group did hire him,

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Speaker 7: but they let him go because they wanted playoff wins.

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Speaker 7: They were a one seed. They had the Patriots at

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Speaker 7: home and gag that game. It was just one of

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Speaker 7: a thousand. How do they lose this game? Type of moments?

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Speaker 2: Should Charge drive down to San Diego to do the

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Speaker 2: stuff that you do with them to singer or just

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Speaker 2: since they've been to LA.

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Speaker 7: Just since the in LA. But I did used to

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Speaker 7: for a local LA station. I did sometimes drive down

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Speaker 7: to San Diego to cover games. So yeah, it's been

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Speaker 7: going on for years. Still unforgettable. This playoff where they're

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Speaker 7: beating Tom Brady in the fourth quarter in the playoffs.

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Speaker 7: I mean, the Chargers are about to beat the Patriots

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Speaker 7: in the playoffs and they pick off Tom Brady in

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Speaker 7: the fourth quarter and the Charger guy, instead of taking

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Speaker 7: a knee, decides to run it back and fumbles the

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Speaker 7: ball back to New England. They wound up kicking a

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Speaker 7: field goal later and winning. It was just, you know,

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Speaker 7: the whole chargering thing. It used to be clemsoning in

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Speaker 7: college football. It was with Clemson for many years. It

718
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Speaker 7: was well earned, and then now the last decade it's

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Speaker 7: it's not at all there. So at the moment, it's

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Speaker 7: very true. It is earned. The Chargers with Brandon Staley,

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Speaker 7: it was one three point loss after another, not getting

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Speaker 7: a stop at the end, not getting a key play.

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Speaker 7: They've earned their current position and it's really really in

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Speaker 7: a my goodness, we have a quarterback unlike all NFL,

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Speaker 7: unlike some NFL teams, but it's really more of a

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Speaker 7: startover than they planned. We had three NFL games here

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Speaker 7: on this Saturday at Detroit, Jeredah five touchdown passes, three

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Speaker 7: to tight end Sam Laporta Lions forty two seventeen over Denver,

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Speaker 7: which falls to seven and seven. Cold speat the Steelers

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Speaker 7: thirty to thirteen despite trailing thirteen nothing in the second quarter.

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Speaker 7: Gardner Minshew three touchdown passes. Bengals won in overtime against

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Speaker 7: the Vikings twenty seven twenty four. Bengals were down seventeen

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Speaker 7: to three after three quarters.

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Speaker 2: Back to you, thank you very much, Steve de Seger,

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Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio, Fox Sports Saturday ertors Jason Martin broadcasting

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Speaker 2: Who's next in LA, That's the question.

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Speaker 2: Before the break, you myself the sager, we were talking

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Speaker 2: about the uh situation with the Los Angeles Chargers, who yesterday,

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Speaker 2: of course fire brand Staley, and like any conversation about

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Speaker 2: a fired head coach, conversation ultimately turns to what's next now,

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Speaker 2: as we just discussed. You know, Chargers don't have a

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Speaker 2: history of spending big. I thought, you know, it was

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Speaker 2: interesting your commentary about how they've had kind of the

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Speaker 2: type a alpha head coaches in the past and sometimes

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Speaker 2: they've kind of brushed up with management. Obviously the the

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Speaker 2: Spanos family, the kids are part of the front office,

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Speaker 2: et cetera, et cetera.

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Speaker 3: Where do you think the Chargers go Because the.

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Speaker 2: One thing I will say, barring something shocking, it's going

766
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Speaker 2: to be the best job available I think by a mile,

767
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Speaker 2: because you not only have Justin Herbert, but as de

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Speaker 2: Seger said, you have for Shaun Slater an elite tackle.

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Speaker 2: You know, you have some good pieces on defense. I

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Speaker 2: know Joey Bosa has been hurt, but whatever, he's still talented.

771
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Speaker 2: He's on the field, or when James et cetera. And

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Speaker 2: by the way, you're trending towards a pretty high NFL

773
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Speaker 2: draft pick as well, and so you can either trade

774
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Speaker 2: that pick for a team that needs a quarterback or

775
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Speaker 2: you can make a selection to really help you and

776
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Speaker 2: probably bring in a blue chip type guy. So you know,

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Speaker 2: I'm just curious, where do you think they go all that.

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Speaker 1: Go ahead, Well, I think they probably go young again,

779
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Speaker 1: maybe not quite as young, but the hot coordinator, the

780
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Speaker 1: hot offensive coordinator this time, though, they'll go in.

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Speaker 3: I think they'll do that.

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Speaker 7: I do.

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Speaker 1: I think it'll be like Detroit's offensive coordinator Ben Johnson

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Speaker 1: or someone like that. It'll be the Shane Stiking kind

785
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Speaker 1: of higher. That's just a guess based on what they

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Speaker 1: have done their last three the one thing I did

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Speaker 1: here and I've seen this now, and this opens up

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Speaker 1: a larger conversation we can continue to have going into

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Speaker 1: the rest of the show. But Belichick's name keeps getting mentioned.

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Speaker 1: And I read an article and I listened to executives

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Speaker 1: as well, and they have all kind of been like, Oh,

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Speaker 1: that'd be a dream higher for them, That'd be exactly

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Speaker 1: what they need. We've talked about this several times, in

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Speaker 1: not relation to this job, but in relation to any job.

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Speaker 1: I don't know if he is or not. Folks like,

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Speaker 1: at this stage, what do we know about Bill Belichick

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Speaker 1: going to another organization. Well, we know he's gonna be

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Speaker 1: a lot more like the Marty Schottenheiber types. So that's

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Speaker 1: not gonna go great with what Really the alphas want.

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Speaker 1: That organization wants to be the alpha. They don't want

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Speaker 1: their coach to be the alpha. So you bring in

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Speaker 1: a Belichick who's gonna be kind of stubborn. Yeah, he's

803
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Speaker 1: gonna be hard nosed, and maybe they do need that.

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Speaker 1: I don't disagree. I don't know that this is a

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Speaker 1: time to bring in a Bill Belichick, though, I feel

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Speaker 1: like that the jury right now has decided they actually

807
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Speaker 1: want more time and a little bit more evidence. So

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Speaker 1: I think there's more that we can say there, but

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Speaker 1: that name keeps getting mentioned, and to me, that just

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Speaker 1: doesn't seem like the answer.

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Speaker 3: I'll tell you what.

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Speaker 2: We here on until two am Eastern time, and so

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Speaker 2: when we come back, let's discuss Bill Belichick. Also been

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Speaker 2: a lot of Jim Harbaugh at least conversation. We know

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Speaker 2: that we seem to know that he is probably going

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Speaker 2: to be looking at NFL jobs after the college season.

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Speaker 2: Things are a little bit dicey at Michigan with the

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Speaker 2: NCAA situation. Could that be a landing spot for Jim Harbaugh?

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Speaker 2: We got a lot to talk about, Jason. The Los

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Speaker 2: Angeles Chargers have a job opening, a great job, justin Herbert.

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Speaker 2: Who should they hire? Belichick? Harbaugh? That's next. Fox Sports Radio.

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Speaker 2: Jason and I were talking the big news in the

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Speaker 2: NFL throughout the week. Brandon Staley out as the Los

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Speaker 2: Angeles Chargers head coach after that debacle of a game

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Speaker 2: against the Las Vegas Raiders on Thursday night, ending really

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Speaker 2: a debacle of a regime for Brandon Staley. He is

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Speaker 2: officially done. Now the question turns to who's next.

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Speaker 3: Jason.

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Speaker 2: You know, I want to get into the Belichick stuff

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Speaker 2: here in a minute, but I want to actually start

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Speaker 2: with somebody else. I want to ask you about Jim

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Speaker 2: Harbaugh because here's what I think I know about Jim

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Speaker 2: Harbaugh right now, just as a dude and his future.

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Speaker 2: I think he wants to go to the NFL. And

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Speaker 2: I say that because we had multiple reports last week

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Speaker 2: that basically a contract extension is on his desk, offering

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Speaker 2: him eleven million dollars a year as the head coach

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Speaker 2: of Michigan football five year, fifty five million dollar deal,

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Speaker 2: but it is pending on the fact that he does

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Speaker 2: not pursue NFL opportunities this year. Listen, I think it's

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Speaker 2: his prerogative, I think if that's what he's interested in.

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Speaker 3: By the way, I know everybody knows.

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Speaker 2: I know you certainly know Jason, But the last two

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Speaker 2: offseasons he has pursued NFL jobs. He flew to Minnesota

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Speaker 2: to interview with the Vikings two years ago on National

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Speaker 2: Siding Day in early February. So I just bring it

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Speaker 2: up because it's his prerogative if that's what he wants.

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Speaker 2: But it certainly feels like if he was one hundred

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Speaker 2: percent committed to returning to Michigan, he would have signed

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Speaker 2: that extension by now. I guess my thought with that

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Speaker 2: is exactly what I just said. There is a contract

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Speaker 2: that will pay him eleven million dollars sitting on his desk.

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Speaker 2: And again we've talked about over the last twenty five

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Speaker 2: thirty minutes dating back to the last hour, that historically

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Speaker 2: the Chargers are not the type of team that is

862
00:43:06,080 --> 00:43:08,360
Speaker 2: going to break the bank for a head coach. You

863
00:43:08,400 --> 00:43:11,839
Speaker 2: know you mentioned you're Denver Broncos Sean Payton. They basically said,

864
00:43:11,840 --> 00:43:13,879
Speaker 2: this is the guy, he's won a Super Bowl, He's

865
00:43:13,920 --> 00:43:15,640
Speaker 2: the guy that we believe can fix Russ. He is

866
00:43:15,680 --> 00:43:17,520
Speaker 2: the best guy available. We don't care what it takes,

867
00:43:17,560 --> 00:43:19,759
Speaker 2: We're gonna go ahead and sign him. And they did

868
00:43:19,840 --> 00:43:24,160
Speaker 2: to a very very lucrative contract. And I could be wrong,

869
00:43:24,200 --> 00:43:26,239
Speaker 2: but it just that that's what That's what trips me

870
00:43:26,360 --> 00:43:29,200
Speaker 2: up is I think the Chargers is the best job

871
00:43:29,360 --> 00:43:32,759
Speaker 2: because of the talent on that roster, but I don't

872
00:43:32,840 --> 00:43:35,879
Speaker 2: know that they're gonna pay eleven million dollars a year.

873
00:43:35,920 --> 00:43:38,319
Speaker 2: And if you're Jim Harbaugh, I mean, can you take

874
00:43:38,360 --> 00:43:40,480
Speaker 2: the job for six six and a half, you know,

875
00:43:40,560 --> 00:43:43,280
Speaker 2: Like I just that's the part that I guess trips

876
00:43:43,320 --> 00:43:45,600
Speaker 2: me up on this Jason, is are they gonna pay

877
00:43:45,680 --> 00:43:48,839
Speaker 2: the money that Jim that a Jim Harbaugh feels like

878
00:43:48,880 --> 00:43:49,480
Speaker 2: he deserves.

879
00:43:50,440 --> 00:43:53,960
Speaker 1: So the hardball extension point is certainly a good one,

880
00:43:54,239 --> 00:43:57,680
Speaker 1: and as long as he hasn't signed it, the questions

881
00:43:57,719 --> 00:43:59,759
Speaker 1: will still remain as to where he's going to be

882
00:43:59,840 --> 00:44:05,120
Speaker 1: next year and what exactly he's doing. Belichick I have seen,

883
00:44:05,719 --> 00:44:08,080
Speaker 1: I know, I looked at the candidate article that the

884
00:44:08,120 --> 00:44:12,719
Speaker 1: Athletic put out through their Chargers kind of vertical and

885
00:44:12,880 --> 00:44:15,160
Speaker 1: the thirteen candidates, Belichick was mentioned, and it was just

886
00:44:15,200 --> 00:44:16,799
Speaker 1: it just comes down to whether or not they want

887
00:44:16,800 --> 00:44:18,719
Speaker 1: to pay what he'll ask if he wants twenty to

888
00:44:18,760 --> 00:44:22,600
Speaker 1: twenty five million, they won't take it again. I'm just

889
00:44:22,680 --> 00:44:25,720
Speaker 1: kind of like, Okay, you're going to paid Belichick twenty

890
00:44:25,719 --> 00:44:30,560
Speaker 1: to twenty five million. Okay, So I don't see that.

891
00:44:30,800 --> 00:44:33,920
Speaker 1: But the Horball thing, that one part about the Harball

892
00:44:33,960 --> 00:44:36,360
Speaker 1: deal is he's had a lot of success coaching in

893
00:44:36,400 --> 00:44:39,880
Speaker 1: the state of California. Also true won a lot at Stanford.

894
00:44:40,840 --> 00:44:43,960
Speaker 1: Remember he was at USD. That was like his first

895
00:44:44,040 --> 00:44:46,480
Speaker 1: job I think was one of his first coaching jobs

896
00:44:46,560 --> 00:44:51,520
Speaker 1: was at University of San Diego. He played with the

897
00:44:51,600 --> 00:44:54,360
Speaker 1: Chargers for a couple of years laid in his career,

898
00:44:54,520 --> 00:44:56,680
Speaker 1: so he actually has a bit of familiarity with the

899
00:44:56,800 --> 00:45:00,440
Speaker 1: organization and of course what he did in Sanford Cisco.

900
00:45:00,600 --> 00:45:02,880
Speaker 1: He was forty four and nineteen. So this is the

901
00:45:02,880 --> 00:45:05,560
Speaker 1: guy who has succeeded in that state and might really

902
00:45:05,640 --> 00:45:09,120
Speaker 1: like living there. I don't know that for sure. I

903
00:45:09,320 --> 00:45:13,720
Speaker 1: just I think that if you marry Justin Herbert in

904
00:45:13,840 --> 00:45:16,600
Speaker 1: Jim Harbaugh's mind to also being able to go back

905
00:45:16,600 --> 00:45:18,319
Speaker 1: to the West Coast where he has had a lot

906
00:45:18,360 --> 00:45:22,399
Speaker 1: of success and some really fond memories, maybe you can

907
00:45:22,480 --> 00:45:24,760
Speaker 1: make that kind of thing happen. Remember when you asked

908
00:45:24,760 --> 00:45:27,279
Speaker 1: me a few minutes ago, I said, Ben Johnson. The

909
00:45:27,280 --> 00:45:29,880
Speaker 1: other name that I would say probably is going to

910
00:45:29,960 --> 00:45:32,360
Speaker 1: be out there, and he's in this athletical list as well,

911
00:45:32,520 --> 00:45:35,480
Speaker 1: which I found during break is Frank Smith, who's the

912
00:45:35,480 --> 00:45:39,040
Speaker 1: offensive coordinator with the Dolphins, but in twenty twenty one

913
00:45:39,160 --> 00:45:42,160
Speaker 1: he was the O line coach and run game coordinator

914
00:45:42,200 --> 00:45:46,200
Speaker 1: for the Chargers and took the job with Mike McDaniel

915
00:45:46,880 --> 00:45:51,920
Speaker 1: and joined that staff. But apparently the players adore the

916
00:45:51,960 --> 00:45:55,680
Speaker 1: guy he knows, Herbert. Let me work with Herbert. That's

917
00:45:55,680 --> 00:45:57,960
Speaker 1: an interesting name to maybe throw out there.

918
00:45:57,960 --> 00:46:01,160
Speaker 2: Also, let me jump in, do you want a guy

919
00:46:01,200 --> 00:46:04,000
Speaker 2: that the players adore? Because I don't know this guy, right.

920
00:46:04,760 --> 00:46:06,560
Speaker 2: I guess what I'm just saying is, you know, it's

921
00:46:06,600 --> 00:46:09,960
Speaker 2: kind of like, let's use an example. I just used

922
00:46:09,960 --> 00:46:11,799
Speaker 2: the Texas A and M example. In the last hour,

923
00:46:12,239 --> 00:46:14,279
Speaker 2: Mark Stoops nearly gets hired as Texas A and M.

924
00:46:14,320 --> 00:46:15,680
Speaker 2: It's like, well, wait a second, now, this was a

925
00:46:15,719 --> 00:46:18,320
Speaker 2: guy that worked for Jimbo Fish or whatever. Blah blah blah.

926
00:46:18,400 --> 00:46:20,440
Speaker 2: I guess what I'm trying to say is, you know,

927
00:46:20,560 --> 00:46:23,520
Speaker 2: Staley probably lost a little bit of a control, control

928
00:46:23,600 --> 00:46:27,800
Speaker 2: of the locker room and I'm not saying it frankly

929
00:46:27,840 --> 00:46:29,680
Speaker 2: because I don't think Staley had much of a backbone.

930
00:46:29,680 --> 00:46:32,080
Speaker 2: But and I'm not saying this Frank Smith guy is

931
00:46:32,160 --> 00:46:35,080
Speaker 2: exactly like that. But do you want a guy that

932
00:46:35,120 --> 00:46:35,920
Speaker 2: the players adore?

933
00:46:36,080 --> 00:46:36,279
Speaker 1: One?

934
00:46:37,239 --> 00:46:39,040
Speaker 2: Do you want a guy that is going to be

935
00:46:39,080 --> 00:46:40,960
Speaker 2: seen as a player's coach? And I know it's it's

936
00:46:41,000 --> 00:46:44,040
Speaker 2: a new era, and you know, listen the Junction boys like,

937
00:46:44,200 --> 00:46:46,600
Speaker 2: we're not that's that, We're never going back to that,

938
00:46:47,239 --> 00:46:49,840
Speaker 2: But there's there's that element of it. And then two,

939
00:46:50,360 --> 00:46:52,920
Speaker 2: do you kind of want to break kind of completely

940
00:46:52,960 --> 00:46:55,960
Speaker 2: free from the Brandon Staley tree if you will? I

941
00:46:56,000 --> 00:47:01,120
Speaker 2: guess I just to kind of get somebody he associated

942
00:47:01,360 --> 00:47:05,440
Speaker 2: even loosely with Brandon Staley after the debacle that just happened.

943
00:47:05,800 --> 00:47:07,279
Speaker 2: I know he's his own man. I know he's his

944
00:47:07,280 --> 00:47:10,680
Speaker 2: own coach whatever. I don't know I would feel about

945
00:47:10,680 --> 00:47:11,680
Speaker 2: that if I was a Chargers fan.

946
00:47:11,760 --> 00:47:15,280
Speaker 1: Well, I mean, I don't know. Sometimes it works, sometimes

947
00:47:15,280 --> 00:47:16,920
Speaker 1: it doesn't. You have to do what you think is

948
00:47:17,000 --> 00:47:19,799
Speaker 1: right in the moment. And if you're also factoring in

949
00:47:20,000 --> 00:47:22,840
Speaker 1: the Chargers organization and the way that they have behaved

950
00:47:22,880 --> 00:47:26,200
Speaker 1: in the past when it comes to coaching hires. You

951
00:47:26,239 --> 00:47:29,239
Speaker 1: could see it as well. I said they adored him.

952
00:47:29,400 --> 00:47:31,760
Speaker 1: Maybe I said it the wrong way. What it actually

953
00:47:31,800 --> 00:47:33,799
Speaker 1: says in the article is he was there for one year,

954
00:47:33,960 --> 00:47:35,799
Speaker 1: but he made a big time impact, and you can

955
00:47:35,840 --> 00:47:39,000
Speaker 1: pin that impact largely on his ability to connect and

956
00:47:39,040 --> 00:47:43,280
Speaker 1: relate to players. And since he's become the OC with Miami.

957
00:47:43,480 --> 00:47:47,600
Speaker 1: You know, their fifth in advanced metrics in terms of

958
00:47:47,640 --> 00:47:51,240
Speaker 1: their offense over the past two years, and that's certainly

959
00:47:51,320 --> 00:47:55,120
Speaker 1: the defense was terrible under Stally, but the offense has

960
00:47:55,560 --> 00:47:59,719
Speaker 1: regressed pretty significantly, which is why I think the one name,

961
00:47:59,840 --> 00:48:01,680
Speaker 1: the one guy you talked about something you can't do

962
00:48:02,400 --> 00:48:05,359
Speaker 1: in terms of a Chargers fan, the one guy don't

963
00:48:05,360 --> 00:48:07,560
Speaker 1: think you can hire is more. I think kell the

964
00:48:07,600 --> 00:48:09,480
Speaker 1: mo was out. First of all, I think he'd be

965
00:48:09,520 --> 00:48:12,520
Speaker 1: the interim coach if they were actually serious, they'd want

966
00:48:12,560 --> 00:48:13,759
Speaker 1: to get a look at him the way that at

967
00:48:13,840 --> 00:48:16,960
Speaker 1: least they're giving Antonio Pierce a shot with the Raiders

968
00:48:17,000 --> 00:48:20,680
Speaker 1: and he's making the most of that. But more, I think,

969
00:48:21,280 --> 00:48:23,000
Speaker 1: and that's why I asked the saga. I I was

970
00:48:23,080 --> 00:48:26,000
Speaker 1: curious what his take on Kella Moore was, because Kellen

971
00:48:26,040 --> 00:48:27,359
Speaker 1: Moore was a bell of the ball, and what has

972
00:48:27,400 --> 00:48:31,600
Speaker 1: happened since he got there is Dallas's offense looks better yep.

973
00:48:31,880 --> 00:48:37,040
Speaker 1: And the Chargers with him there, they have regressed significantly

974
00:48:37,080 --> 00:48:39,279
Speaker 1: and it was such a disastrous year. I actually think

975
00:48:39,320 --> 00:48:42,000
Speaker 1: this year has done a good bit of harm to

976
00:48:42,120 --> 00:48:45,000
Speaker 1: his head coaching prospects over the next couple of years.

977
00:48:45,120 --> 00:48:47,800
Speaker 2: Now, I agree. And the one thing I will say, listen,

978
00:48:48,600 --> 00:48:52,320
Speaker 2: you know it's funny. I you know, I listen, I

979
00:48:52,360 --> 00:48:54,359
Speaker 2: thought they should have fired brand Saley after last year.

980
00:48:54,400 --> 00:48:54,760
Speaker 3: Whatever.

981
00:48:55,160 --> 00:48:57,400
Speaker 2: Why I bring it up? You know, you talk about

982
00:48:57,440 --> 00:48:59,799
Speaker 2: all the missteps along the way, and I know the

983
00:48:59,800 --> 00:49:02,320
Speaker 2: offences regressed and even before the Herbert injury.

984
00:49:02,360 --> 00:49:02,640
Speaker 3: Whatever.

985
00:49:03,080 --> 00:49:04,960
Speaker 2: But I do think that's kind of a culture thing.

986
00:49:05,080 --> 00:49:07,040
Speaker 2: I do think that when the players are checked out

987
00:49:07,080 --> 00:49:08,560
Speaker 2: because they don't trust the head coach, I think it's

988
00:49:08,600 --> 00:49:10,960
Speaker 2: going to impact what it's going on in the offensive

989
00:49:10,960 --> 00:49:14,799
Speaker 2: meeting rooms as well and the overall psyche of the organization.

990
00:49:14,880 --> 00:49:17,480
Speaker 2: And so I just bring it up to very simply

991
00:49:17,560 --> 00:49:22,440
Speaker 2: say like this is another blunder by the Los Angeles Chargers.

992
00:49:22,480 --> 00:49:23,359
Speaker 3: I mean, you know, you.

993
00:49:23,400 --> 00:49:25,080
Speaker 2: Go back to the early part of you go back

994
00:49:25,120 --> 00:49:27,319
Speaker 2: to week one, what was it Week one when they

995
00:49:27,480 --> 00:49:29,640
Speaker 2: I can't even remember. They played the Dolphins and it

996
00:49:29,680 --> 00:49:31,840
Speaker 2: was like thirty seven thirty one or something, and the

997
00:49:31,880 --> 00:49:34,120
Speaker 2: offense was humming. And I'm not saying you fire Brandi's

998
00:49:34,200 --> 00:49:36,920
Speaker 2: day after week one, but I'm just saying there was

999
00:49:36,960 --> 00:49:40,160
Speaker 2: a moment in time where the offense was operating at

1000
00:49:40,160 --> 00:49:42,399
Speaker 2: a really high level, the defense was letting them down.

1001
00:49:42,400 --> 00:49:45,560
Speaker 2: And it's like, you know, listen, you never wish it.

1002
00:49:45,640 --> 00:49:47,799
Speaker 2: You never wish a man it will in his job.

1003
00:49:47,840 --> 00:49:50,360
Speaker 2: And he never called. But the guy was so clearly

1004
00:49:50,360 --> 00:49:53,680
Speaker 2: incompetent as we as we discussed, he was, you know,

1005
00:49:53,760 --> 00:49:58,200
Speaker 2: continuing to call his own plays and refusing to you know,

1006
00:49:58,239 --> 00:49:59,960
Speaker 2: make any change on the defensive side of the ball,

1007
00:50:00,239 --> 00:50:03,600
Speaker 2: like it's just one blunder after another. In terms of

1008
00:50:03,600 --> 00:50:06,280
Speaker 2: how this was handled, dating back to last year early

1009
00:50:06,360 --> 00:50:08,160
Speaker 2: in the year, maybe he had an opportunity to see

1010
00:50:08,200 --> 00:50:10,640
Speaker 2: if Kellen Moore could potentially be that guy, etc.

1011
00:50:10,880 --> 00:50:11,040
Speaker 3: Etc.

1012
00:50:11,560 --> 00:50:16,160
Speaker 2: Really quick with Belichick putting the money aside, like let's

1013
00:50:16,160 --> 00:50:18,239
Speaker 2: just say, like, like money's not an issue, right, I mean,

1014
00:50:18,280 --> 00:50:21,120
Speaker 2: the guy, you know, as as we've said, you know

1015
00:50:21,239 --> 00:50:24,399
Speaker 2: probably makes he probably almost certainly is the highest paid

1016
00:50:24,440 --> 00:50:25,120
Speaker 2: coach in the NFL.

1017
00:50:25,239 --> 00:50:25,720
Speaker 3: Right now.

1018
00:50:26,160 --> 00:50:29,040
Speaker 2: The athletic kind of puts the number of like twenty

1019
00:50:29,080 --> 00:50:31,360
Speaker 2: to twenty five million a year. This is in college.

1020
00:50:31,400 --> 00:50:33,680
Speaker 2: We don't know exactly how much these guys make. But

1021
00:50:33,800 --> 00:50:37,239
Speaker 2: my question is if money isn't an issue, if Bill

1022
00:50:37,320 --> 00:50:40,120
Speaker 2: Belichick says, I'll come on the cheap because I just

1023
00:50:40,160 --> 00:50:42,719
Speaker 2: want to prove all the haters in New England wrong.

1024
00:50:42,719 --> 00:50:44,520
Speaker 2: I want to prove Bob kraftrong. I want to prove

1025
00:50:44,560 --> 00:50:47,920
Speaker 2: Jonathan Kraft wrong. And you are the Chargers. Is that

1026
00:50:48,040 --> 00:50:48,600
Speaker 2: something that.

1027
00:50:48,520 --> 00:50:51,839
Speaker 1: Interests you, Belichick?

1028
00:50:52,640 --> 00:50:56,480
Speaker 3: Bill Belichick, yes, SI, yeah, No, not me.

1029
00:50:57,000 --> 00:51:01,560
Speaker 1: I mean, and it's crazy, but I do think that

1030
00:51:02,560 --> 00:51:05,759
Speaker 1: just the way that most of us feel about Belichick

1031
00:51:05,960 --> 00:51:09,399
Speaker 1: has changed in the past few years because he has

1032
00:51:09,520 --> 00:51:14,960
Speaker 1: not won virtually anything without Tom Brady. Now you give

1033
00:51:15,000 --> 00:51:17,120
Speaker 1: him justin Herbert, is he gonna win? Maybe? So, I mean,

1034
00:51:17,560 --> 00:51:19,720
Speaker 1: we understand what he can do, we understand his football

1035
00:51:19,760 --> 00:51:22,440
Speaker 1: IQ and all those things. I just don't know. At

1036
00:51:22,480 --> 00:51:28,239
Speaker 1: this stage. I can easily see it. I mean, I

1037
00:51:28,320 --> 00:51:30,600
Speaker 1: understand it. It's hard for me to even have any

1038
00:51:30,680 --> 00:51:33,840
Speaker 1: kind of a feeling that Belichick is in some ways

1039
00:51:33,880 --> 00:51:37,520
Speaker 1: too stubborn at this stage for where the game has gone.

1040
00:51:37,680 --> 00:51:40,719
Speaker 1: Maybe he's not maybe it's just the circumstance is there,

1041
00:51:40,760 --> 00:51:43,520
Speaker 1: but all the decisions that he's been making from a

1042
00:51:43,520 --> 00:51:46,960
Speaker 1: personnel standpoint just have been disastrous. What they've done in

1043
00:51:47,000 --> 00:51:48,719
Speaker 1: the draft and not done in the draft, and the

1044
00:51:48,760 --> 00:51:51,239
Speaker 1: power that he's held throughout all that. You can't lay

1045
00:51:51,239 --> 00:51:53,719
Speaker 1: the blame anywhere else but Belichick for the team that's

1046
00:51:53,760 --> 00:51:56,440
Speaker 1: currently there. You can't look at it and say, well,

1047
00:51:56,440 --> 00:52:00,480
Speaker 1: Mac Jones has nothing around him and give Jones a

1048
00:52:00,480 --> 00:52:02,680
Speaker 1: little bit of a pass when it comes to Belichick,

1049
00:52:02,719 --> 00:52:05,239
Speaker 1: because on the Belichick side, it's like, no, Belichick, you

1050
00:52:05,239 --> 00:52:07,960
Speaker 1: put all those guys around him, and you put that

1051
00:52:08,000 --> 00:52:10,080
Speaker 1: guy in that spot in the first place, like you're

1052
00:52:10,120 --> 00:52:13,640
Speaker 1: the one making these decisions. So that would worry me,

1053
00:52:14,000 --> 00:52:18,120
Speaker 1: is what is your evaluation of talent at this standpoint?

1054
00:52:18,320 --> 00:52:21,239
Speaker 1: And the Chargers better have the right GM to pair

1055
00:52:21,400 --> 00:52:23,640
Speaker 1: with a Belichick And I don't know that Belichick wants

1056
00:52:23,680 --> 00:52:26,360
Speaker 1: to roll that way. And if that's the case, plus

1057
00:52:26,400 --> 00:52:28,480
Speaker 1: the money that he might want to make because this

1058
00:52:28,640 --> 00:52:31,040
Speaker 1: is near the end of his career and was he

1059
00:52:31,080 --> 00:52:33,920
Speaker 1: twenty five to twenty seven games away from Don Jula's record,

1060
00:52:34,440 --> 00:52:36,359
Speaker 1: so he would maybe want to be there for that

1061
00:52:36,520 --> 00:52:38,799
Speaker 1: or be somewhere for that, but somebody will hire him

1062
00:52:38,960 --> 00:52:42,360
Speaker 1: if he's still interested in being a coach after New England.

1063
00:52:42,400 --> 00:52:45,200
Speaker 1: But I just don't know that the answer to the

1064
00:52:45,400 --> 00:52:50,719
Speaker 1: Chargers problem is Bill Belichick specifically in what will be

1065
00:52:50,920 --> 00:52:54,640
Speaker 1: twenty twenty four. I just I am skeptical that that

1066
00:52:54,680 --> 00:52:55,799
Speaker 1: would be the right move.

1067
00:52:56,760 --> 00:52:59,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know if it's the right move. I

1068
00:52:59,160 --> 00:53:02,480
Speaker 2: do think the one thing that I would say is

1069
00:53:04,600 --> 00:53:08,560
Speaker 2: it's got to be somebody that, like the details have

1070
00:53:08,600 --> 00:53:11,760
Speaker 2: to be in order, because again Brandon Staley, defensive play caller,

1071
00:53:11,840 --> 00:53:14,360
Speaker 2: guys are constantly out of position. It's just a mess.

1072
00:53:14,920 --> 00:53:16,839
Speaker 2: Everything was a mess, and it's like, the one thing

1073
00:53:16,880 --> 00:53:19,799
Speaker 2: you do need is a details guy. Is a guy

1074
00:53:19,840 --> 00:53:21,879
Speaker 2: that kind of has an organization, has this has that.

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00:53:22,360 --> 00:53:25,200
Speaker 2: I guess the big question for me would be what

1076
00:53:25,320 --> 00:53:27,120
Speaker 2: kind of what are you gonna do with Justin Herbert?

1077
00:53:27,200 --> 00:53:27,359
Speaker 1: Right?

1078
00:53:27,840 --> 00:53:30,399
Speaker 2: Is this going to be the two thousand and eight

1079
00:53:30,600 --> 00:53:32,839
Speaker 2: you know, Randy Moss offense where you kind of turn

1080
00:53:32,920 --> 00:53:36,239
Speaker 2: things over and trust the quarterback or I mean, how

1081
00:53:36,280 --> 00:53:37,960
Speaker 2: long is it going to take you to earn trust

1082
00:53:38,000 --> 00:53:42,319
Speaker 2: in in in Justin Herbert? So So, yeah, I don't know,

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00:53:42,360 --> 00:53:44,319
Speaker 2: I don't know. It's it's a tough one. I do

1084
00:53:44,360 --> 00:53:48,799
Speaker 2: think that the number of jobs, and I remember there

1085
00:53:48,840 --> 00:53:50,640
Speaker 2: was one weekend you were out, Jason, We're on vacation

1086
00:53:50,719 --> 00:53:52,759
Speaker 2: and Arnie and I were working together and we talked

1087
00:53:52,800 --> 00:53:56,680
Speaker 2: about this is like the number of jobs for Belichick,

1088
00:53:56,800 --> 00:53:59,719
Speaker 2: I think is much smaller than I think you would

1089
00:53:59,760 --> 00:54:02,400
Speaker 2: think for an all time great. As an example, like

1090
00:54:02,520 --> 00:54:04,839
Speaker 2: Chicago Bears, if they were to draft a quarterback. Now,

1091
00:54:04,840 --> 00:54:07,160
Speaker 2: I know Justin Field has been playing better, maybe they don't,

1092
00:54:07,400 --> 00:54:09,879
Speaker 2: but it's like if you are a team with a

1093
00:54:10,000 --> 00:54:13,680
Speaker 2: young quarterback, a rookie quarterback, like that's not the dude

1094
00:54:13,840 --> 00:54:18,720
Speaker 2: for that job. The Chargers, the pieces are kind of there.

1095
00:54:19,200 --> 00:54:21,600
Speaker 2: I just feel like they need an adult in the room.

1096
00:54:21,719 --> 00:54:24,799
Speaker 2: But again, if you know, I don't know, is it

1097
00:54:24,840 --> 00:54:26,360
Speaker 2: weird for me to say I don't really have a

1098
00:54:26,360 --> 00:54:29,000
Speaker 2: strong opinion on this, Like I don't think it would

1099
00:54:29,040 --> 00:54:31,040
Speaker 2: be the worst thing, because I think he does bring

1100
00:54:31,120 --> 00:54:33,239
Speaker 2: a lot of what they need. But I also kind

1101
00:54:33,239 --> 00:54:35,440
Speaker 2: of need a blueprint of hey, you get you know,

1102
00:54:35,520 --> 00:54:38,200
Speaker 2: to quote the old saying you canna let justin Herbert Cook?

1103
00:54:38,400 --> 00:54:40,600
Speaker 2: Or what are we doing here on offense? I guess

1104
00:54:40,600 --> 00:54:42,680
Speaker 2: that would be my big question as far as that's concerned.

1105
00:54:42,840 --> 00:54:45,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, no, it's not weird at all. And

1106
00:54:45,120 --> 00:54:46,440
Speaker 1: that's kind of what I was saying. It was just like,

1107
00:54:46,520 --> 00:54:49,719
Speaker 1: I'm not sure that's the answer in twenty twenty three.

1108
00:54:49,760 --> 00:54:52,040
Speaker 1: I'm not sure that that's a marriage that works. I

1109
00:54:52,080 --> 00:54:55,239
Speaker 1: don't I could see it working. I could also see

1110
00:54:55,280 --> 00:54:59,839
Speaker 1: it not working at all. You know, there's a lot

1111
00:54:59,880 --> 00:55:05,359
Speaker 1: of that there. It's just the Spanish organization and that

1112
00:55:05,560 --> 00:55:09,080
Speaker 1: family and Belichick that just that would worry me. But

1113
00:55:09,160 --> 00:55:11,680
Speaker 1: that's gonna worry me with a lot of guys. That's

1114
00:55:11,719 --> 00:55:13,239
Speaker 1: why I think you're gonna end up with a Ben

1115
00:55:13,360 --> 00:55:16,919
Speaker 1: Johnson if he wants the job, because everybody's coming after

1116
00:55:17,000 --> 00:55:19,680
Speaker 1: him at the end of the year and already tried

1117
00:55:19,760 --> 00:55:22,120
Speaker 1: last year as well. That's exactly who they won in Carolina.

1118
00:55:22,280 --> 00:55:26,920
Speaker 1: As a matter of fact. There's a lot there. And

1119
00:55:27,000 --> 00:55:28,920
Speaker 1: if they don't want to pay Harball, I mean, Harball

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00:55:29,000 --> 00:55:32,600
Speaker 1: is a good pick probably, Like if he goes there

1121
00:55:32,640 --> 00:55:35,160
Speaker 1: and you give him justin Herbert and he's happy, you know,

1122
00:55:35,280 --> 00:55:37,000
Speaker 1: he might wear out his welcome at some point. But

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00:55:37,120 --> 00:55:40,360
Speaker 1: Harball's the kind of guy that would be a dominant

1124
00:55:40,480 --> 00:55:44,680
Speaker 1: enough figure that the Chargers would be instantly relevant and

1125
00:55:44,719 --> 00:55:49,080
Speaker 1: they'd be interested instantly interesting, which is something from a

1126
00:55:49,120 --> 00:55:52,520
Speaker 1: positive standpoint. Outside of Justin Herbert, you can't really say

1127
00:55:52,560 --> 00:55:57,160
Speaker 1: about that franchise in the last half decade, so you

1128
00:55:57,200 --> 00:56:00,279
Speaker 1: know that's that's part of it also, But Loo could

1129
00:56:00,320 --> 00:56:02,960
Speaker 1: have Ben Johnson and Frank Smith, and I think probably

1130
00:56:03,160 --> 00:56:05,600
Speaker 1: I could easily see Smith being the guy. I really

1131
00:56:05,640 --> 00:56:09,719
Speaker 1: could Harball, it just depends, I guess on money, I

1132
00:56:09,760 --> 00:56:12,400
Speaker 1: could easily. I could definitely see a scenario where Harball's

1133
00:56:12,400 --> 00:56:15,319
Speaker 1: not there in Michigan next year for sure. And if

1134
00:56:15,360 --> 00:56:18,440
Speaker 1: you're gonna go to the NFL, it's probably the Chargers.

1135
00:56:19,040 --> 00:56:21,000
Speaker 1: I'm trying to think about some of the other places

1136
00:56:21,000 --> 00:56:24,399
Speaker 1: that will have openings, but like the Raiders, you don't

1137
00:56:24,400 --> 00:56:29,120
Speaker 1: have a quarterback there amidst other issues, but you don't

1138
00:56:29,120 --> 00:56:31,560
Speaker 1: have a quarterback there, And a lot of these places

1139
00:56:31,560 --> 00:56:33,839
Speaker 1: you have questions at quarterback, but you ain't got one.

1140
00:56:34,200 --> 00:56:37,200
Speaker 1: With the Chargers. We kind of think we know what

1141
00:56:37,360 --> 00:56:40,680
Speaker 1: Justin Herbert is this next coach. Though if it doesn't

1142
00:56:40,719 --> 00:56:43,840
Speaker 1: work with the next coach, that's when we start talking

1143
00:56:43,880 --> 00:56:47,760
Speaker 1: about Justin Herbert being something that needs to be reevaluated

1144
00:56:47,800 --> 00:56:50,120
Speaker 1: as well. Right now, he's got to pass and deservedly,

1145
00:56:50,160 --> 00:56:51,600
Speaker 1: so I don't think that he needs to take a

1146
00:56:51,600 --> 00:56:54,880
Speaker 1: ton of this. But the next coach there's gonna be

1147
00:56:54,920 --> 00:56:56,920
Speaker 1: a lot of pressure on Justin Herbert as well.

1148
00:56:57,760 --> 00:56:58,839
Speaker 3: I don't disagree on that.

1149
00:56:58,920 --> 00:57:02,719
Speaker 2: I don't disagree that he has gotten to pass on

1150
00:57:03,040 --> 00:57:05,560
Speaker 2: Brendon Staley and on Anthony Lynn. I don't think either

1151
00:57:05,600 --> 00:57:08,600
Speaker 2: of those guys was the answer. I do think regardless

1152
00:57:08,680 --> 00:57:11,760
Speaker 2: the point that you just brought up about about Frank Smith,

1153
00:57:11,840 --> 00:57:15,600
Speaker 2: the Dolphins offensive coordinator who was with the Los Angeles Chargers,

1154
00:57:15,960 --> 00:57:19,760
Speaker 2: I didn't want things clear. You gotta go offense. Yes, sure,

1155
00:57:19,760 --> 00:57:21,960
Speaker 2: you gotta go with the guy that knows offense. Or again,

1156
00:57:22,240 --> 00:57:26,080
Speaker 2: you know, if you somehow, if Belichick is interested, then

1157
00:57:26,240 --> 00:57:28,000
Speaker 2: I need a pretty good blueprint of how you plan

1158
00:57:28,040 --> 00:57:28,360
Speaker 2: on using.

1159
00:57:28,480 --> 00:57:29,960
Speaker 1: Let me throw one more name at you before we

1160
00:57:30,000 --> 00:57:32,360
Speaker 1: get to break. Let's do it, Mike Tomlin.

1161
00:57:32,880 --> 00:57:35,320
Speaker 2: You know so John Middlekoff was the first one that

1162
00:57:35,360 --> 00:57:38,960
Speaker 2: I saw say this. I know, I just I literally

1163
00:57:38,960 --> 00:57:40,880
Speaker 2: said within the last thirty seconds, it's got to be

1164
00:57:40,920 --> 00:57:48,800
Speaker 2: somebody offense. Yeah, I will say that. I don't think

1165
00:57:48,840 --> 00:57:51,360
Speaker 2: it'd be the worst thing for Mike Thomas either. Yeah,

1166
00:57:51,520 --> 00:57:54,160
Speaker 2: like and and again, I think he is a lot

1167
00:57:54,280 --> 00:58:00,600
Speaker 2: of what that organization needs, discipline, structure, account of ability,

1168
00:58:01,520 --> 00:58:03,200
Speaker 2: you know. And what did you just say about Brandons

1169
00:58:03,200 --> 00:58:05,240
Speaker 2: Stalley last segment? A guy that every time he goes

1170
00:58:05,280 --> 00:58:07,000
Speaker 2: to the podium, well, we didn't execute, we didn't this,

1171
00:58:07,120 --> 00:58:09,320
Speaker 2: we didn't that. Mike Tomlin one thing you can say

1172
00:58:09,320 --> 00:58:11,040
Speaker 2: about him, he'll look the media in the eye and

1173
00:58:11,040 --> 00:58:13,240
Speaker 2: say I'm not good enough. He said it tonight after

1174
00:58:13,280 --> 00:58:15,080
Speaker 2: the game against the Indianapolis Colts.

1175
00:58:15,160 --> 00:58:15,520
Speaker 1: And so.

1176
00:58:17,440 --> 00:58:21,160
Speaker 2: I don't know what his contract structure is, but one,

1177
00:58:21,440 --> 00:58:24,760
Speaker 2: I think he would fit the Chargers well. And two,

1178
00:58:25,120 --> 00:58:27,800
Speaker 2: you know, listen, we've talked about this. I think it's

1179
00:58:27,880 --> 00:58:30,520
Speaker 2: kind of run its course in Pittsburgh. We also think

1180
00:58:31,120 --> 00:58:33,400
Speaker 2: Tom Yeah, I mean, how long has he been It's

1181
00:58:33,440 --> 00:58:35,000
Speaker 2: been like fifteen years, has.

1182
00:58:34,880 --> 00:58:38,200
Speaker 1: Been forever, Yes, so at least he's been there forever,

1183
00:58:39,080 --> 00:58:41,280
Speaker 1: and he's I have so much respect for him, Like

1184
00:58:41,400 --> 00:58:44,520
Speaker 1: Tom Win is the name. I know that Vrabel's name

1185
00:58:44,560 --> 00:58:47,040
Speaker 1: has been mentioned a few times as well, just because

1186
00:58:47,080 --> 00:58:48,600
Speaker 1: the Titans season has gone the way it has. I

1187
00:58:48,640 --> 00:58:50,600
Speaker 1: don't think he's going anywhere. I'm in Nashville. I don't

1188
00:58:50,600 --> 00:58:53,440
Speaker 1: think he's going anywhere. But he and Tomlin are similar

1189
00:58:53,600 --> 00:58:56,320
Speaker 1: in many respects to me, those are two guys on

1190
00:58:56,360 --> 00:58:58,160
Speaker 1: the defensive side of the ball I look at. Matter

1191
00:58:58,200 --> 00:58:59,760
Speaker 1: of fact, they're the only two guys I think on

1192
00:58:59,800 --> 00:59:02,240
Speaker 1: the defensive side of the ball that I look at

1193
00:59:02,240 --> 00:59:04,440
Speaker 1: as a head coach. Because, as I've said before, if

1194
00:59:04,480 --> 00:59:08,880
Speaker 1: you hire a hot offensive coordinator, you bring you bring

1195
00:59:08,880 --> 00:59:11,000
Speaker 1: in an offensive coordinator, you're gonna be finding another one

1196
00:59:11,040 --> 00:59:13,200
Speaker 1: two years from now because somebody's gonna make them a

1197
00:59:13,240 --> 00:59:15,800
Speaker 1: head coach. So you better just go ahead and find

1198
00:59:15,800 --> 00:59:18,280
Speaker 1: the hot OC and making the head coach to start with,

1199
00:59:18,360 --> 00:59:21,160
Speaker 1: so you don't have a rotating coordinator ship underneath a

1200
00:59:21,200 --> 00:59:21,720
Speaker 1: head coach.

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1202
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1213
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Speaker 2: If you thought Jason and I went hard on Brandon Staley,

1222
01:00:34,360 --> 01:00:36,920
Speaker 2: did you see what Traymond Green did to Nurkicch earlier

1223
01:00:36,960 --> 01:00:40,120
Speaker 2: the week we'll discuss that next. First, though, do you

1224
01:00:40,120 --> 01:00:42,400
Speaker 2: want to get to the news desk de Sega? What

1225
01:00:42,520 --> 01:00:43,439
Speaker 2: is trending right now?

1226
01:00:43,440 --> 01:00:43,800
Speaker 3: My friend?

1227
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Speaker 7: Well, we've got NFL to get to. But first, this

1228
01:00:46,320 --> 01:00:49,440
Speaker 7: just went final in the NBA at Sacramento. Dierre and Fox,

1229
01:00:49,480 --> 01:00:51,840
Speaker 7: who was out with a shoulder injury. So Keegan Murray

1230
01:00:51,880 --> 01:00:54,320
Speaker 7: had forty seven points in a win over you to

1231
01:00:54,440 --> 01:00:56,600
Speaker 7: a one twenty five, one to oh four Murray from

1232
01:00:56,600 --> 01:00:59,840
Speaker 7: three point range twelve for fifteen, And it looks like

1233
01:00:59,880 --> 01:01:02,560
Speaker 7: the Clippers are about to win their seventh straight game.

1234
01:01:02,840 --> 01:01:05,320
Speaker 7: They're hosting the Knicks and leading going to the fourth

1235
01:01:05,360 --> 01:01:09,240
Speaker 7: quarter one fourteen to ninety eight Kawhi Leonard with thirty

1236
01:01:09,280 --> 01:01:12,320
Speaker 7: six points. And yes, the Pistons lost again. They've lost

1237
01:01:12,320 --> 01:01:15,320
Speaker 7: twenty three in a row. They lost by thirty two

1238
01:01:15,440 --> 01:01:18,840
Speaker 7: last night at Philadelphia. They lost by thirty two tonight

1239
01:01:19,000 --> 01:01:24,280
Speaker 7: at Milwaukee, one forty six to one fourteen Philly. Meanwhile,

1240
01:01:24,320 --> 01:01:26,400
Speaker 7: one again it's won six in a row. It won

1241
01:01:26,480 --> 01:01:29,560
Speaker 7: by an even wider margin, one thirty five to eighty

1242
01:01:29,640 --> 01:01:33,800
Speaker 7: two at Charlotte. Joel Embiid forty two points. I saw

1243
01:01:33,800 --> 01:01:36,520
Speaker 7: a stat that Embiid has more points than minutes played

1244
01:01:36,560 --> 01:01:37,400
Speaker 7: so far the year.

1245
01:01:37,640 --> 01:01:39,000
Speaker 3: That's just that's dound bad.

1246
01:01:39,000 --> 01:01:40,840
Speaker 1: That is all that is. You see the South Carolina

1247
01:01:40,840 --> 01:01:44,160
Speaker 1: women's score, No, no, because it's a women's basketball score.

1248
01:01:44,200 --> 01:01:46,200
Speaker 1: This is the only thing I ever really noticed on

1249
01:01:46,240 --> 01:01:48,640
Speaker 1: a consistent basis as some of the blowouts. I can't

1250
01:01:48,640 --> 01:01:51,800
Speaker 1: remember who they played, but the final was ninety nine

1251
01:01:51,840 --> 01:01:55,680
Speaker 1: to twenty nine. Twenty nine. It was either ninety two

1252
01:01:55,720 --> 01:01:58,800
Speaker 1: to twenty two or ninety nine to twenty. Oh your

1253
01:01:58,800 --> 01:02:03,160
Speaker 1: current twenty seventy point win Presbyterian good? Like? What are

1254
01:02:03,160 --> 01:02:03,600
Speaker 1: we doing?

1255
01:02:04,120 --> 01:02:07,720
Speaker 7: Even worse? Apparently the visiting team had more than half

1256
01:02:07,760 --> 01:02:11,040
Speaker 7: their points in the first quarter. Oh my, fifteen in

1257
01:02:11,080 --> 01:02:15,120
Speaker 7: the first quarter fourteen the rest of the day astounding.

1258
01:02:15,160 --> 01:02:18,760
Speaker 7: The Houston Texans will be starting quarterback case Keenum tomorrow.

1259
01:02:19,080 --> 01:02:19,400
Speaker 3: C J.

1260
01:02:19,520 --> 01:02:22,680
Speaker 7: Stroud is out at Tennessee, still in concussion protocol. He

1261
01:02:22,760 --> 01:02:26,320
Speaker 7: missed practice all week. Houston wide receiver Nico Collins listed

1262
01:02:26,360 --> 01:02:30,480
Speaker 7: as questionable. Wide receiver Noah Brown questionable but could play

1263
01:02:30,480 --> 01:02:33,640
Speaker 7: of course. Wide receiver Tankdale still on ir. Texans defensive

1264
01:02:33,680 --> 01:02:37,440
Speaker 7: end Will Anderson is out this weekend. Seahawks quarterback Gino Smith,

1265
01:02:37,520 --> 01:02:40,080
Speaker 7: with the groin injury, is questionable for Monday night against

1266
01:02:40,120 --> 01:02:42,920
Speaker 7: the Eagles. He was limited in practice this week. Chiefs

1267
01:02:42,920 --> 01:02:45,520
Speaker 7: coach Andy Reid was fined one hundred thousand dollars for

1268
01:02:45,600 --> 01:02:49,320
Speaker 7: his criticism of the refs last Sunday. Quarterback Patrick Mahomes

1269
01:02:49,440 --> 01:02:53,280
Speaker 7: was fined fifty thousand dollars. Casey running back Isaiah Pacheco

1270
01:02:53,400 --> 01:02:55,880
Speaker 7: is out tomorrow. We had shoulder surgery, should be back

1271
01:02:55,880 --> 01:02:59,200
Speaker 7: at practice next week. The Giants activated tight end Darren

1272
01:02:59,240 --> 01:03:02,920
Speaker 7: Waller Washington. Running back Brian Robinson out for Sunday at

1273
01:03:02,920 --> 01:03:05,320
Speaker 7: the Rams with a hamstring injury. Wide receiver of the

1274
01:03:05,320 --> 01:03:09,160
Speaker 7: Packers Christian Watson was listed as doubtful with his hamstring injury.

1275
01:03:09,360 --> 01:03:12,840
Speaker 7: To the NFL, which had three games today. Tonight, Detroit

1276
01:03:12,880 --> 01:03:15,840
Speaker 7: now ten and four beat up Denver forty two to seventeen.

1277
01:03:15,880 --> 01:03:19,680
Speaker 7: The Lions scored touchdowns on five straight drives middle of

1278
01:03:19,720 --> 01:03:22,120
Speaker 7: the game. In fact, all of their touchdown drives lasted

1279
01:03:22,120 --> 01:03:25,800
Speaker 7: about four minutes or less. Jared Goff five touchdown passes.

1280
01:03:25,880 --> 01:03:29,240
Speaker 7: Indianapolis was down thirteen nothing to the Steelers. Second quarter

1281
01:03:29,520 --> 01:03:33,440
Speaker 7: beat Pittsburgh thirty to thirteen. Gardner Minshew three touchdown passes.

1282
01:03:33,680 --> 01:03:36,439
Speaker 7: Bengals got an overtime win against the Vikings twenty seven

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Speaker 7: to twenty four. T Higgins the tying TD catch last

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Speaker 7: minute of regulation. Jamar Chase of Cincinnati left with a

1285
01:03:42,920 --> 01:03:46,560
Speaker 7: shoulder injury. There is one late night college football game,

1286
01:03:46,720 --> 01:03:51,120
Speaker 7: mid fourth quarter of the Independence Bowl in shreport. Texas Tech,

1287
01:03:51,160 --> 01:03:53,560
Speaker 7: which gave up two touchdowns in the first quarter, now

1288
01:03:53,640 --> 01:03:56,760
Speaker 7: leads thirty one fourteen over Cal in a battle of

1289
01:03:56,800 --> 01:04:00,880
Speaker 7: six and six teams. Wins earlier for UCLA and Fresno State.

1290
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Speaker 7: In college basketball, Number one Arizona, which was eight to

1291
01:04:04,440 --> 01:04:08,280
Speaker 7: oh beaten in Indianapolis by Number three per Due ninety

1292
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Speaker 7: two eighty four. Purdue had three players score over twenty

1293
01:04:12,160 --> 01:04:15,760
Speaker 7: points each. And we talked about the transfers in college

1294
01:04:15,760 --> 01:04:19,040
Speaker 7: football and how that's changed things. Obviously you can transfer

1295
01:04:19,080 --> 01:04:21,680
Speaker 7: in college basketball as well, and it's the equivalent of

1296
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Speaker 7: my goodness, did the Kansas Jayhawks have a great trade

1297
01:04:24,680 --> 01:04:27,080
Speaker 7: because they got the Michigan Center this year and Hunter

1298
01:04:27,160 --> 01:04:31,480
Speaker 7: Dickinson had seventeen points fourteen rebounds today Jayhawks won at

1299
01:04:31,520 --> 01:04:35,720
Speaker 7: Indiana seventy five seventy one wins for Houston and Kentucky

1300
01:04:35,800 --> 01:04:39,480
Speaker 7: Tennessee just one. Tonight Memphis beat number thirteen Clemson, And

1301
01:04:39,520 --> 01:04:42,000
Speaker 7: there was a game in Detroit where Michigan State beat

1302
01:04:42,080 --> 01:04:46,400
Speaker 7: up number six Baylor eighty eight to sixty four. Spartanshot

1303
01:04:46,480 --> 01:04:49,600
Speaker 7: sixty three percent from the floor. Michigan State led thirty

1304
01:04:49,640 --> 01:04:51,600
Speaker 7: six eleven in the first half.

1305
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Speaker 2: Back to you to say, you're really quick before you go.

1306
01:04:54,600 --> 01:04:57,080
Speaker 2: If I read you a tweet that said this was

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01:04:57,120 --> 01:05:01,360
Speaker 2: sent ten hours ago. So what is that about noon eastern,

1308
01:05:01,440 --> 01:05:07,360
Speaker 2: noon eastern. Can't believe Arizona is a underdog to Purdue.

1309
01:05:07,360 --> 01:05:11,600
Speaker 2: Not an underdog. A underdog to Purdue, Arizona by double digits.

1310
01:05:11,600 --> 01:05:13,960
Speaker 2: Purdue is not in the same class as Arizona. Oh,

1311
01:05:14,240 --> 01:05:17,440
Speaker 2: let's go three exclamation points cause you take a wild

1312
01:05:17,480 --> 01:05:19,400
Speaker 2: guess as to who might have sent that at at

1313
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Speaker 2: twelve thirty Easter time.

1314
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Speaker 7: The guy who always plays this on Sunday nights. M

1315
01:05:25,240 --> 01:05:28,480
Speaker 7: the man that's back from where was he? Costa Rica? Yeah,

1316
01:05:28,520 --> 01:05:29,480
Speaker 7: his Warney's Spaniard.

1317
01:05:29,520 --> 01:05:31,360
Speaker 3: His wife wants some sort of trip.

1318
01:05:31,760 --> 01:05:35,840
Speaker 2: Can't believe Arizona is a underdog get to Purdue.

1319
01:05:35,920 --> 01:05:36,800
Speaker 3: Not an underdog.

1320
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Speaker 7: I thought point B was coming next the way you

1321
01:05:39,040 --> 01:05:42,480
Speaker 7: were reading it like a underdog. By the way, it's

1322
01:05:42,480 --> 01:05:45,840
Speaker 7: his co host on Sunday Night. Chris Plague is sideline

1323
01:05:45,880 --> 01:05:48,880
Speaker 7: reporter for the Oklahoma Sooners football team, and Arnie has

1324
01:05:48,880 --> 01:05:53,880
Speaker 7: been saying this last month that, yeah, my Arizona Wildcats

1325
01:05:53,920 --> 01:05:55,280
Speaker 7: have been so good. I don't want to play some

1326
01:05:55,440 --> 01:05:57,960
Speaker 7: dog team. I don't want to play no boise in

1327
01:05:58,000 --> 01:06:01,120
Speaker 7: a bowl, you know, no offense. Well, coming up last

1328
01:06:01,120 --> 01:06:03,560
Speaker 7: week of December, the Alamo Bowl in San Antonio is

1329
01:06:03,640 --> 01:06:07,840
Speaker 7: number twelve Oklahoma against number fourteen Arizona, and you know

1330
01:06:07,920 --> 01:06:10,520
Speaker 7: this is kind of a big deal for Arizona and

1331
01:06:10,560 --> 01:06:13,800
Speaker 7: certainly for Artie. And then Chris just threw this tub

1332
01:06:13,840 --> 01:06:16,120
Speaker 7: of cold water on it, said, you know what we're

1333
01:06:16,120 --> 01:06:17,880
Speaker 7: flying in that day, We're flying out there.

1334
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Speaker 3: Shots fired?

1335
01:06:20,960 --> 01:06:23,040
Speaker 2: All right, to Saga to Sega'll be back in just

1336
01:06:23,120 --> 01:06:25,000
Speaker 2: a few moments with his extended update.

1337
01:06:25,520 --> 01:06:27,040
Speaker 3: Jason, we'd be remiss.

1338
01:06:27,120 --> 01:06:29,000
Speaker 2: You know, a lot of stuff going on in the

1339
01:06:29,040 --> 01:06:30,960
Speaker 2: world of sports, but the big topic in the NBA

1340
01:06:31,040 --> 01:06:34,400
Speaker 2: this week. I mentioned it to start the segment. Draymond

1341
01:06:34,440 --> 01:06:40,560
Speaker 2: Green slugged Yer Kidd slapped him. It was close fists.

1342
01:06:40,600 --> 01:06:42,920
Speaker 1: No, I saw arguments that were it was a slap

1343
01:06:42,960 --> 01:06:45,520
Speaker 1: and he flopped. Can I saw it just kind of like,

1344
01:06:45,520 --> 01:06:46,400
Speaker 1: are you out of your mind?

1345
01:06:46,440 --> 01:06:47,120
Speaker 3: Can I say one.

1346
01:06:47,000 --> 01:06:51,120
Speaker 2: Thing really quick, and I'm not criticizing you, I'm criticizing

1347
01:06:51,160 --> 01:06:52,360
Speaker 2: the people that say stuff like that.

1348
01:06:52,880 --> 01:06:56,040
Speaker 3: Can we stop making Draymond Green the victim exact? Please?

1349
01:06:56,600 --> 01:07:00,360
Speaker 2: By the way, the Steve Kerr statement yesterday, I'll make

1350
01:07:00,400 --> 01:07:02,560
Speaker 2: sure that I read it at least the first line

1351
01:07:02,600 --> 01:07:05,560
Speaker 2: properly here, so I'm not misquoting him. Let's see what

1352
01:07:05,600 --> 01:07:07,840
Speaker 2: he said about Draymond Green. If I can find this

1353
01:07:07,920 --> 01:07:11,920
Speaker 2: really quick, here is what Steve Kerr had to say

1354
01:07:12,080 --> 01:07:16,920
Speaker 2: about the Draymond Green situation. To me, this is more

1355
01:07:17,040 --> 01:07:21,120
Speaker 2: about This is about more than basketball. It's about helping Draymond.

1356
01:07:21,160 --> 01:07:23,200
Speaker 2: I think it's an opportunity for Draymond to step away

1357
01:07:23,200 --> 01:07:24,800
Speaker 2: and make a change in his approach in his life.

1358
01:07:24,800 --> 01:07:26,080
Speaker 3: And that's not an easy thing to do.

1359
01:07:26,480 --> 01:07:30,720
Speaker 2: Hey, Steve Kerr, if you cared that much about Draymond,

1360
01:07:31,200 --> 01:07:36,360
Speaker 2: this is his third suspension this year. This goes back

1361
01:07:36,920 --> 01:07:41,240
Speaker 2: just in the NBA at least until twenty sixteen, when

1362
01:07:41,280 --> 01:07:43,880
Speaker 2: he not only costs you guys potentially an NBA championship

1363
01:07:43,880 --> 01:07:45,960
Speaker 2: by getting suspended in Game five, but also by the

1364
01:07:45,960 --> 01:07:49,360
Speaker 2: way kick Steven Adams. You know where that no man

1365
01:07:49,400 --> 01:07:51,480
Speaker 2: should ever kick another man and should have been suspended

1366
01:07:51,520 --> 01:07:55,240
Speaker 2: back then. So can we stop with the victimization of

1367
01:07:55,320 --> 01:07:57,960
Speaker 2: Draymond Green? And can we stop with the oh, I

1368
01:07:58,000 --> 01:08:01,440
Speaker 2: mean he needs help, yeh help, He needed it eight

1369
01:08:01,560 --> 01:08:03,760
Speaker 2: nine years ago, but he was helping you win a

1370
01:08:03,760 --> 01:08:06,080
Speaker 2: lot more games and that the league didn't have to

1371
01:08:06,080 --> 01:08:11,720
Speaker 2: step in. I am so tired of this nonsense. It's

1372
01:08:11,800 --> 01:08:14,640
Speaker 2: just like whatever you clearly know where I'm going with this,

1373
01:08:14,920 --> 01:08:18,320
Speaker 2: But if it don't spare me with the spare me

1374
01:08:18,400 --> 01:08:20,360
Speaker 2: with the We just want him to get the help

1375
01:08:20,400 --> 01:08:23,760
Speaker 2: he needs. Steve Kerr, you are a fraud. By the way,

1376
01:08:23,760 --> 01:08:25,280
Speaker 2: maybe this is why he never calls in an Arnie

1377
01:08:25,320 --> 01:08:27,840
Speaker 2: show anymore, because because we got people on the network

1378
01:08:27,880 --> 01:08:30,479
Speaker 2: going after him. But like, spare me the well, we

1379
01:08:30,640 --> 01:08:32,679
Speaker 2: just wanted to get him to help. You don't care

1380
01:08:32,840 --> 01:08:36,000
Speaker 2: at all, stop Jason. The floor is yours, but it

1381
01:08:36,320 --> 01:08:37,120
Speaker 2: stuff annoys me.

1382
01:08:37,439 --> 01:08:41,720
Speaker 1: So I've had this take on Draymond since I don't know,

1383
01:08:42,520 --> 01:08:46,439
Speaker 1: very early in his run in Golden State, because it

1384
01:08:46,479 --> 01:08:51,240
Speaker 1: didn't take very long for this version of Draymond to emerge.

1385
01:08:52,320 --> 01:08:57,240
Speaker 1: I said, if this dude played for the Orlando Magic,

1386
01:08:58,840 --> 01:09:02,360
Speaker 1: we would never even know his name. At best, he

1387
01:09:02,400 --> 01:09:08,400
Speaker 1: would be Jordan Brooks or Dylan Brooks. He has been

1388
01:09:08,680 --> 01:09:13,360
Speaker 1: enabled to do these things because of the greatness that

1389
01:09:13,479 --> 01:09:17,040
Speaker 1: surrounds him on the floor, because he's had Curry and

1390
01:09:17,920 --> 01:09:20,320
Speaker 1: not this year, but he has had a great version

1391
01:09:20,360 --> 01:09:22,760
Speaker 1: of Klay Thompson for a long time, and he had

1392
01:09:22,840 --> 01:09:26,080
Speaker 1: Kevin Durant and he had all of this talent around

1393
01:09:26,160 --> 01:09:29,759
Speaker 1: him and they're winning championships. Then he could look terrible

1394
01:09:29,760 --> 01:09:33,120
Speaker 1: shooting threes, and he could be sort of the enforcer type,

1395
01:09:33,120 --> 01:09:35,559
Speaker 1: but he could also step past it and go past

1396
01:09:35,640 --> 01:09:38,479
Speaker 1: the line and do all these things, and we would

1397
01:09:38,479 --> 01:09:40,839
Speaker 1: know who he is, and he would be talked about

1398
01:09:40,840 --> 01:09:42,679
Speaker 1: like he's a shoe in for the Hall of Fame

1399
01:09:42,720 --> 01:09:44,880
Speaker 1: and he's one of the five best defenders to ever live,

1400
01:09:44,960 --> 01:09:47,439
Speaker 1: and all this that dude played in Orlando, we'd never know.

1401
01:09:48,160 --> 01:09:50,919
Speaker 1: We just wouldn't because he wouldn't be able to operate

1402
01:09:51,000 --> 01:09:54,559
Speaker 1: this way for very long, because he wouldn't actually be

1403
01:09:54,560 --> 01:09:57,439
Speaker 1: benefiting the plus minus the same way he fits in

1404
01:09:57,479 --> 01:09:59,519
Speaker 1: Golden State. And so he's been able to kind of

1405
01:09:59,520 --> 01:10:02,559
Speaker 1: get away with this for a long time. I don't

1406
01:10:02,600 --> 01:10:05,040
Speaker 1: know if anybody would even call him a particularly good

1407
01:10:05,080 --> 01:10:07,120
Speaker 1: player if he was on half the teams in the

1408
01:10:07,240 --> 01:10:09,960
Speaker 1: NBA for the vast majority of his career. I think

1409
01:10:10,000 --> 01:10:11,320
Speaker 1: he is a good player. I think he's a very

1410
01:10:11,360 --> 01:10:12,920
Speaker 1: good player. As a matter of fact, it's not me

1411
01:10:13,000 --> 01:10:16,400
Speaker 1: slighting him necessarily on his basketball ability. It is on

1412
01:10:17,120 --> 01:10:20,200
Speaker 1: his importance to basketball has been enhanced because of what's

1413
01:10:20,240 --> 01:10:22,479
Speaker 1: around him. And that's true for a lot of athletes,

1414
01:10:22,520 --> 01:10:25,960
Speaker 1: but it's certainly true for him and the victimization and

1415
01:10:26,000 --> 01:10:29,280
Speaker 1: the it's always somebody else's fault articles about how it's

1416
01:10:29,360 --> 01:10:32,040
Speaker 1: Kurt or it's Adam Silver, or it's this, or it's that,

1417
01:10:32,640 --> 01:10:35,639
Speaker 1: or he's just misunderstood, or let's go talk to Rashii

1418
01:10:35,640 --> 01:10:38,000
Speaker 1: Wallace about this or all this other kind of stuff.

1419
01:10:38,400 --> 01:10:44,640
Speaker 1: No dude crosses the line repeatedly. He should have been

1420
01:10:44,720 --> 01:10:46,920
Speaker 1: kicked out of the out of the playoffs for the

1421
01:10:46,960 --> 01:10:50,519
Speaker 1: low blow on Steven Adams with the thunderd years ago.

1422
01:10:50,560 --> 01:10:52,200
Speaker 1: He wasn't. He ended up getting kicked out in the

1423
01:10:52,280 --> 01:10:57,400
Speaker 1: NBA Finals. They lost that series. This is a trend.

1424
01:10:58,000 --> 01:11:00,760
Speaker 1: I understand he has a podcast. He hasn't done any

1425
01:11:00,760 --> 01:11:04,800
Speaker 1: episodes this year. I don't think I understand. Uh, he's

1426
01:11:04,800 --> 01:11:07,559
Speaker 1: good on TV. He could be real funny on inside

1427
01:11:07,640 --> 01:11:09,760
Speaker 1: the NBA and all these I understand all that. I

1428
01:11:10,120 --> 01:11:13,800
Speaker 1: get that this and there's an entertaining factor. Also, I

1429
01:11:13,800 --> 01:11:18,000
Speaker 1: think there's an engaging factor to Draymond Green. But this

1430
01:11:18,200 --> 01:11:21,400
Speaker 1: behavior and this stuff is like when I saw the

1431
01:11:21,439 --> 01:11:24,560
Speaker 1: suspension was indefinite, I'm like, please, don't let it be indefinite,

1432
01:11:24,640 --> 01:11:25,160
Speaker 1: like John.

1433
01:11:25,080 --> 01:11:27,560
Speaker 3: Morantz was the first time I thought toy.

1434
01:11:27,760 --> 01:11:30,400
Speaker 1: Like, don't give let's not have an out where he

1435
01:11:30,439 --> 01:11:32,639
Speaker 1: has to prove something. In two weeks from now, he's

1436
01:11:32,680 --> 01:11:33,479
Speaker 1: back on the floor.

1437
01:11:33,560 --> 01:11:36,240
Speaker 2: He's to go to rehab in Florida for now, right

1438
01:11:36,280 --> 01:11:39,320
Speaker 2: for for thirty six hours, he'll be he'll be safe.

1439
01:11:39,360 --> 01:11:41,720
Speaker 3: But keep going JASKI, Yeah, I mean point there is

1440
01:11:41,800 --> 01:11:42,720
Speaker 3: just the NBA needs to.

1441
01:11:42,720 --> 01:11:44,880
Speaker 1: Lay the hammer down and say, man, it's over, like,

1442
01:11:45,160 --> 01:11:47,519
Speaker 1: just stop this, You're done for the year. Like at

1443
01:11:47,520 --> 01:11:49,479
Speaker 1: this stage I'd have been I'd have been happier with

1444
01:11:49,640 --> 01:11:52,960
Speaker 1: done for the year than indefinite because I just don't

1445
01:11:53,000 --> 01:11:56,439
Speaker 1: buy into the NBA in definite suspension rule because of

1446
01:11:56,439 --> 01:11:59,880
Speaker 1: how it's been utilized in the past. I heard some people,

1447
01:12:01,080 --> 01:12:04,000
Speaker 1: some former players say ten twenty games, All right, fine,

1448
01:12:04,040 --> 01:12:07,320
Speaker 1: twenty games, it's got to be something substantial, because it

1449
01:12:07,400 --> 01:12:10,879
Speaker 1: probably should have been something substantial on the last occasion,

1450
01:12:10,880 --> 01:12:14,160
Speaker 1: the whole Rudy Gobert choke out scenario where people tried

1451
01:12:14,200 --> 01:12:16,880
Speaker 1: to say, oh, but did you see Gobert beforehand? That's

1452
01:12:16,880 --> 01:12:20,080
Speaker 1: the same thing as did you see Nurkic flop. I

1453
01:12:20,080 --> 01:12:23,040
Speaker 1: don't care if he exaggerated it or not. He still

1454
01:12:23,040 --> 01:12:26,720
Speaker 1: got cocked in the face and Draymond saying that it

1455
01:12:26,760 --> 01:12:30,320
Speaker 1: wasn't intentional. Yes, it was man like. All of this stuff,

1456
01:12:30,680 --> 01:12:34,080
Speaker 1: it's falling on deaf ears because at some point we

1457
01:12:34,120 --> 01:12:36,479
Speaker 1: talked to you mentioned Dennis Green earlier in the show. Yeah,

1458
01:12:36,520 --> 01:12:38,599
Speaker 1: at some point you are exactly who we think you are,

1459
01:12:39,240 --> 01:12:41,519
Speaker 1: and when you do these things, it's just the same

1460
01:12:41,560 --> 01:12:44,160
Speaker 1: way I've talked about Chris Paul. Chris Paul likes to

1461
01:12:44,200 --> 01:12:47,599
Speaker 1: go low. We know this about him. He's a great player,

1462
01:12:47,600 --> 01:12:50,120
Speaker 1: but he likes to go low. There are some guys

1463
01:12:50,400 --> 01:12:53,320
Speaker 1: if Vontez Perfect was playing in an NFL game, I

1464
01:12:53,400 --> 01:12:55,920
Speaker 1: was pretty sure there was danger on the horizon for

1465
01:12:56,040 --> 01:12:59,080
Speaker 1: somebody because dude got fined like eleven million dollars during

1466
01:12:59,080 --> 01:13:02,320
Speaker 1: his NFL career or something substantial, something ridiculous like that,

1467
01:13:02,439 --> 01:13:05,320
Speaker 1: because he got suspended like twenty some times. How many

1468
01:13:05,320 --> 01:13:08,920
Speaker 1: times does this have to happen before you finally actually

1469
01:13:09,000 --> 01:13:12,519
Speaker 1: make it really punitive for him and for his team,

1470
01:13:13,280 --> 01:13:16,000
Speaker 1: and if the Warriors just let him come on back,

1471
01:13:16,120 --> 01:13:19,120
Speaker 1: like this is the opportunity. I did see an article

1472
01:13:19,200 --> 01:13:22,200
Speaker 1: from someone out there that covers that team, Aaron, that

1473
01:13:22,280 --> 01:13:26,479
Speaker 1: made the point that you know, this might be the

1474
01:13:26,600 --> 01:13:29,040
Speaker 1: NBA throwing an olive branch to Golden State and saying

1475
01:13:29,080 --> 01:13:32,400
Speaker 1: here's you're out so that they can finally get out

1476
01:13:32,400 --> 01:13:34,479
Speaker 1: from underneath them. I don't know that I buy that,

1477
01:13:34,960 --> 01:13:37,240
Speaker 1: but I think it's fascinating that people out there are

1478
01:13:37,280 --> 01:13:40,599
Speaker 1: even suggesting that because they understand what a problem this

1479
01:13:40,680 --> 01:13:41,240
Speaker 1: has become.

1480
01:13:41,640 --> 01:13:43,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, last thought, because we got to get to break

1481
01:13:43,320 --> 01:13:44,080
Speaker 3: get to the Sager.

1482
01:13:45,120 --> 01:13:47,360
Speaker 1: This day we went to Disagera on the other side.

1483
01:13:47,520 --> 01:13:49,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, I've got to do our extended update and the

1484
01:13:49,320 --> 01:13:51,040
Speaker 2: one that I blew right through the other day when

1485
01:13:51,040 --> 01:13:53,960
Speaker 2: we're taking Florida State fold calls till two in the morning.

1486
01:13:54,800 --> 01:13:57,719
Speaker 3: The last the only thing I'll add you mention.

1487
01:13:57,600 --> 01:14:00,519
Speaker 2: Being able to get out of it. This does feel

1488
01:14:00,560 --> 01:14:02,919
Speaker 2: like the end. You know, the Warriors are ten and thirteen.

1489
01:14:03,720 --> 01:14:06,120
Speaker 2: Bob Myers left last year. Thought it was interesting during

1490
01:14:06,120 --> 01:14:08,160
Speaker 2: that play in tournament they had the back and forth

1491
01:14:08,200 --> 01:14:11,400
Speaker 2: with the TNT desk and the ESPN desk, and Charles

1492
01:14:11,400 --> 01:14:13,760
Speaker 2: Barkley said, you know, way to get off the Titanic,

1493
01:14:13,840 --> 01:14:16,080
Speaker 2: Bob Myers, and and you know, you could tell Bob

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Speaker 2: Myers was a little bit uncomfortable.

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Speaker 3: But Draymond is about to be thirty four.

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Speaker 2: Steph obviously still playing an elite level thirty six clay

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Speaker 2: As you said, you know, not a shell of himself,

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Speaker 2: and I think the I think the window on winning

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Speaker 2: at the highest level is officially shut. Fox Sports Radio

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Speaker 2: Aertorris Jason Martin broadcasting live from the tirec dot com studios.

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Speaker 2: As mentioned on the other end, Des Sager, we'll get

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Speaker 2: you caught up on all the stories you missed from

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Speaker 2: across sports today.

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Speaker 3: That's next, Fox Sports Radio, Welcome back everybody.

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Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio, Ertorris Jason Martin broadcasting live from the

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Speaker 2: at this time, toss over the news desk to Seger.

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01:15:08,880 --> 01:15:10,720
Speaker 2: Tell us everything we missed throughout the day.

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Speaker 7: Well, we do have the NFL games to get to

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01:15:13,080 --> 01:15:15,479
Speaker 7: in detail, but there are a couple of college notes,

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01:15:15,520 --> 01:15:18,360
Speaker 7: including the football game that's still going on. The late

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01:15:18,400 --> 01:15:20,800
Speaker 7: Bowl game with about a minute left has Texas Tech

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01:15:20,840 --> 01:15:23,559
Speaker 7: ahead of cal thirty four to fourteen Battle of six

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01:15:23,600 --> 01:15:28,400
Speaker 7: and six teams and Montana has advanced to the FCS Championship.

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01:15:28,439 --> 01:15:31,920
Speaker 7: They beat North Dakota State in double overtime using a

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01:15:31,960 --> 01:15:35,160
Speaker 7: trick play for a two point pass in the second ot.

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01:15:35,880 --> 01:15:38,719
Speaker 7: It was deflected at the goal line and still wound

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01:15:38,840 --> 01:15:41,160
Speaker 7: up with a teammate's hands. This was the call of

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01:15:41,200 --> 01:15:42,360
Speaker 7: how it sounded a.

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Speaker 2: Technical fishbask find us out, Jayleen, Why.

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01:15:50,200 --> 01:15:51,599
Speaker 8: Look what I found?

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01:15:52,640 --> 01:15:53,519
Speaker 1: That's a great call.

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01:15:53,720 --> 01:15:56,920
Speaker 7: It is a ESPN network. So then North Dakota State

1528
01:15:56,960 --> 01:15:59,960
Speaker 7: gets its possession in the second overtime and try to

1529
01:16:00,320 --> 01:16:02,680
Speaker 7: trick play. It was interception in the end zone and

1530
01:16:03,040 --> 01:16:05,799
Speaker 7: end of the game. So it's Montana against South Dakota

1531
01:16:05,840 --> 01:16:09,559
Speaker 7: State for the title next month. As for the NFL, Yes,

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01:16:09,640 --> 01:16:13,800
Speaker 7: we had three NFL games here on this Saturday. Next Saturday,

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01:16:13,840 --> 01:16:17,519
Speaker 7: we will have two with an asterisk next Saturday night.

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01:16:17,640 --> 01:16:20,760
Speaker 7: During the show it's a streaming only game as the

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01:16:20,880 --> 01:16:24,360
Speaker 7: Chargers host the Bills. There is on a regular channel

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01:16:24,400 --> 01:16:27,080
Speaker 7: a day game, or for a lot of time zones,

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01:16:27,080 --> 01:16:30,080
Speaker 7: a day game with Pittsburgh hosting Cincinnati. What is Pittsburgh

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01:16:30,160 --> 01:16:35,880
Speaker 7: these days? Steelers' offense today twelve drives, thirteen first downs. Yes,

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01:16:35,920 --> 01:16:39,080
Speaker 7: they were head thirteen nothing in the second quarter at Indianapolis,

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01:16:39,080 --> 01:16:41,760
Speaker 7: but they lost thirty to thirteen, and they were only

1541
01:16:41,800 --> 01:16:44,839
Speaker 7: in parts stake to that early lead because of special teams.

1542
01:16:44,840 --> 01:16:48,000
Speaker 7: Mitch Trubisky had one touchdown run one touchdown pass, but

1543
01:16:48,040 --> 01:16:51,120
Speaker 7: he threw two interceptions and now the Colts have won

1544
01:16:51,280 --> 01:16:54,840
Speaker 7: five of six. Indy was one game behind Jacksonville in

1545
01:16:54,880 --> 01:16:57,320
Speaker 7: their division. We'll see how the Jags do tomorrow night.

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01:16:57,360 --> 01:17:00,240
Speaker 7: Gardner Minshew with three touchdown passes. This it was a

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01:17:00,280 --> 01:17:03,880
Speaker 7: battle of backup quarterbacks, as the game at Cincinnati was today.

1548
01:17:04,160 --> 01:17:07,280
Speaker 7: But Pittsburgh is now seven and seven. They've lost four

1549
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Speaker 7: of their last five games. Indy had won four straight

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01:17:10,760 --> 01:17:13,280
Speaker 7: until a loss at Cincinnati last Sunday. They're back in

1551
01:17:13,320 --> 01:17:16,599
Speaker 7: the win column after this home victory. What about the injuries?

1552
01:17:16,680 --> 01:17:20,160
Speaker 7: Running Back Zach Moss was in because Jonathan Taylor's out.

1553
01:17:20,560 --> 01:17:23,040
Speaker 7: Moss of the Colts, who did have a touchdown reception,

1554
01:17:23,320 --> 01:17:26,320
Speaker 7: hurt his arm and left the game on that play.

1555
01:17:26,680 --> 01:17:30,719
Speaker 7: Trey Sermon took over seventeen carries eighty eight yards. Also

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01:17:30,760 --> 01:17:33,639
Speaker 7: for the Colts, wide receiver Michael Pittman four catches seventy

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01:17:33,640 --> 01:17:36,000
Speaker 7: eight yards. I'm glad you mentioned this early in the show.

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01:17:36,040 --> 01:17:39,920
Speaker 7: He left with a concussion on an illegal hit. For Pittsburgh,

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01:17:40,000 --> 01:17:43,080
Speaker 7: Najie Harris twelve carries, just thirty three yards rushing and

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01:17:43,160 --> 01:17:46,799
Speaker 7: one fumble. Steelers today eight penalties for over one hundred

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01:17:46,840 --> 01:17:50,880
Speaker 7: yards and three turnovers thirty to thirteen Colts. The final,

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01:17:51,320 --> 01:17:54,800
Speaker 7: Cincinnati somehow won in overtime against Minnesota twenty seven to

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01:17:54,880 --> 01:17:58,040
Speaker 7: twenty four. The Bengals after three quarters were down seventeen

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01:17:58,080 --> 01:18:01,720
Speaker 7: to three and still won the game. Vikings defense had

1565
01:18:01,760 --> 01:18:05,479
Speaker 7: five sacks. Vikings offense on red zone tds just two

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01:18:05,560 --> 01:18:08,080
Speaker 7: for five and lost a close one. So Minnesota has

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01:18:08,120 --> 01:18:11,040
Speaker 7: lost three of four. The only win in that stretch

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Speaker 7: was that three to nothing victory at Vegas last Sunday.

1569
01:18:13,520 --> 01:18:18,040
Speaker 7: Minnesota's seven and seven Nick Mullens two touchdowns, two interceptions

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01:18:18,040 --> 01:18:20,759
Speaker 7: over three hundred yards passing, but Jake Browning the winning

1571
01:18:20,840 --> 01:18:24,680
Speaker 7: quarterback three hundred and twenty four yards passing two touchdowns,

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Speaker 7: both of them to t Higgins in the fourth quarter.

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01:18:27,479 --> 01:18:31,040
Speaker 7: Higgins the tying TD catch. It was phenomenal, so good

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01:18:31,080 --> 01:18:33,479
Speaker 7: as he was being tackled, reached the ball over the

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01:18:33,479 --> 01:18:37,160
Speaker 7: goal line last minute of regulation. Jamar Chase of Cincinnati

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01:18:37,200 --> 01:18:40,479
Speaker 7: had left with a shoulder injury. Cincinnati's now won three

1577
01:18:40,520 --> 01:18:44,040
Speaker 7: straight games after a three game losing streak. Bengals at

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01:18:44,040 --> 01:18:47,640
Speaker 7: Pittsburgh next Saturday. For the Vikings, Ty Chandler at one

1579
01:18:47,720 --> 01:18:50,280
Speaker 7: hundred and thirty two yards rushing in a score. Alexander

1580
01:18:50,320 --> 01:18:53,679
Speaker 7: Madison was out with an ankle injury. Justin Jefferson seven

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01:18:53,760 --> 01:18:57,400
Speaker 7: catches eighty four yards and Minnesota's Jordan Addison six catches

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01:18:57,439 --> 01:19:00,720
Speaker 7: for one to eleven and two scores. And then there's

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01:19:00,760 --> 01:19:04,160
Speaker 7: tonight at Detroit. The Lions got touchdowns on five straight

1584
01:19:04,280 --> 01:19:06,640
Speaker 7: drives middle of the game wound up beating out the

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01:19:06,640 --> 01:19:10,680
Speaker 7: Broncos forty two to seventeen. Jamiir Gibbs eleven carries, one

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01:19:10,760 --> 01:19:16,040
Speaker 7: hundred yards rushing, two total touchdowns, Jared Goff five touchdown passes,

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Speaker 7: three to tight end Sam Laporta. As for the college

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01:19:19,720 --> 01:19:23,840
Speaker 7: football reminder, next Saturday, seven bowl games Today, there were

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Speaker 7: six bowl games to start the postseas. UCLA actually won

1590
01:19:27,280 --> 01:19:30,360
Speaker 7: a bowl game, Fresno State won a bowl game. And

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01:19:30,400 --> 01:19:34,679
Speaker 7: then there were the games that didn't get quite the attendance,

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01:19:34,760 --> 01:19:37,920
Speaker 7: maybe that they hoped in Orlando in the rain attendance

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01:19:37,960 --> 01:19:42,280
Speaker 7: eleven thousand, five fumbles lost Appalachian State thirteen to nine

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01:19:42,360 --> 01:19:45,479
Speaker 7: over Miami, Ohio at the New Orleans Bowl. This is

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01:19:45,520 --> 01:19:49,240
Speaker 7: at an NFL stadium, the Superdome. Fourteen thousand the attendants

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01:19:49,520 --> 01:19:53,080
Speaker 7: as Louisiana lost in overtime to Jacksonville State thirty four

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01:19:53,120 --> 01:19:56,320
Speaker 7: to thirty one. Jacksonville State had four turnovers, but tied

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01:19:56,360 --> 01:19:59,520
Speaker 7: it on a touchdown with under two minutes left in regulation.

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Speaker 7: And in South Carolina the Myrtle Beach Bowl, Georgia Southern

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01:20:04,320 --> 01:20:07,519
Speaker 7: five turnovers, sacked five times, lost forty one to twenty

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01:20:07,520 --> 01:20:10,800
Speaker 7: one to Ohio. You attendance was eight thousand.

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01:20:11,400 --> 01:20:13,519
Speaker 2: You cut lost in the Myrtle Beach Bowl last year.

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01:20:13,760 --> 01:20:17,439
Speaker 2: Never the same sense then toughier for the Oskies anyway.

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Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio ertors Jason martinbroadcasting live from the tyreck

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Speaker 2: dot Com studios. When we cut back, we'll look back

1606
01:20:23,920 --> 01:20:27,360
Speaker 2: at it. Busy Saturday in the NFL, and of course

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01:20:27,360 --> 01:20:28,519
Speaker 2: look ahead to Sunday as well.

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Speaker 3: Fox Sports Radio Welcome in everybody, our three.

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Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio er tors Jason Martin, broadcasting live from

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Speaker 2: the tyreck dot Com studios tyrack dot com. We'll help

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Speaker 2: I taken you up until two am Eastern time. Bernie

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Speaker 2: Freddo course will follow us after the show, Jason very quickly.

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01:21:05,920 --> 01:21:07,519
Speaker 2: I don't know that we have to spend a ton

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01:21:07,560 --> 01:21:09,880
Speaker 2: of time on any of the three games today, but

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01:21:09,920 --> 01:21:12,040
Speaker 2: we did have three NFL games. It's fun time of

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01:21:12,160 --> 01:21:15,200
Speaker 2: year when you start getting NFL games on Saturday.

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01:21:16,400 --> 01:21:19,519
Speaker 3: A couple, you know, couple interesting games, to say the least.

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01:21:19,560 --> 01:21:24,840
Speaker 2: The Cincinnati Bengals winning overtime, the Indianapolis Colts take care

1622
01:21:24,840 --> 01:21:27,800
Speaker 2: of the Steelers, and Detroit Lions bounced back very nicely

1623
01:21:27,800 --> 01:21:29,920
Speaker 2: off of that loss to the Chicago Bears last week.

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01:21:30,000 --> 01:21:33,200
Speaker 2: Forty two to seventeen is the final score of the

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01:21:33,280 --> 01:21:36,000
Speaker 2: six teams that played today, Jason, what stands out to

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01:21:36,040 --> 01:21:38,919
Speaker 2: you the most among them?

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01:21:39,400 --> 01:21:43,160
Speaker 1: Did? The AFC is a mess? That's probably the number

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01:21:43,200 --> 01:21:43,519
Speaker 1: one thing.

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01:21:43,640 --> 01:21:46,840
Speaker 3: It's cluttered, to say the least, but continue.

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Speaker 1: I mean, that's the simple takeaway from it. The Lions

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01:21:50,320 --> 01:21:53,679
Speaker 1: are are good, but I'm afraid they're not consistent enough.

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01:21:53,720 --> 01:21:55,120
Speaker 1: And we know they're going to have to play on

1633
01:21:55,160 --> 01:21:56,840
Speaker 1: the road at some point in the playoffs, and that's

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01:21:56,840 --> 01:21:59,280
Speaker 1: probably where it comes to an end for them. Still

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01:21:59,320 --> 01:22:02,360
Speaker 1: a good year. They came in with hype and expectation

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01:22:02,439 --> 01:22:04,040
Speaker 1: this year and they've lived up to it. Good job

1637
01:22:04,080 --> 01:22:07,479
Speaker 1: for Dan Campbell, good job for Golf, good job for

1638
01:22:07,520 --> 01:22:11,160
Speaker 1: that offense. Just everything has worked for them pretty effectively.

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01:22:11,160 --> 01:22:13,800
Speaker 1: They're not gonna end up in the super Bowl. I'm

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01:22:13,840 --> 01:22:15,479
Speaker 1: just gonna go ahead, and I'm not gonna say I

1641
01:22:15,520 --> 01:22:19,080
Speaker 1: think that was my point. They will not end up

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01:22:19,120 --> 01:22:22,360
Speaker 1: in the super Bowl. They're not quite there, but they

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01:22:22,360 --> 01:22:24,680
Speaker 1: are in the mix, and they're gonna be annoying to

1644
01:22:24,760 --> 01:22:27,559
Speaker 1: deal with for anybody that runs into them in the

1645
01:22:27,560 --> 01:22:29,759
Speaker 1: regular season. When they go on the road. That's probably

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01:22:29,800 --> 01:22:32,479
Speaker 1: again that's gonna be where their downfall is. But here's

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01:22:32,520 --> 01:22:35,200
Speaker 1: the other takeaway. And I sent you this text message

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01:22:36,360 --> 01:22:38,320
Speaker 1: as I was watching these games, and I didn't even

1649
01:22:38,400 --> 01:22:40,439
Speaker 1: think about it until it just hit me like a

1650
01:22:40,479 --> 01:22:45,839
Speaker 1: ton of bricks. The first two games today, Jake Browning,

1651
01:22:47,240 --> 01:22:54,599
Speaker 1: Nick Mullins, Gardner, Minshew, Mitchell, Trubisky, not a single week

1652
01:22:54,760 --> 01:22:58,360
Speaker 1: one starter was on the field. And it wasn't because

1653
01:22:58,400 --> 01:23:02,519
Speaker 1: somebody was benched. Because all of them are hurt, every

1654
01:23:02,520 --> 01:23:04,360
Speaker 1: single one of them. That's just four. That's not all,

1655
01:23:04,439 --> 01:23:07,639
Speaker 1: We're gonna see plenty more of this later on today.

1656
01:23:08,160 --> 01:23:14,320
Speaker 1: The quarterback injury epidemic this year has reached peak craziness.

1657
01:23:14,360 --> 01:23:17,719
Speaker 1: Like when it finally hit me, it's just it is amazing.

1658
01:23:17,720 --> 01:23:19,759
Speaker 1: When you go up and you look at these teams

1659
01:23:20,120 --> 01:23:21,760
Speaker 1: and you actually just take a look at the thirty

1660
01:23:21,800 --> 01:23:25,320
Speaker 1: two NFL teams, it is staggering how many of them

1661
01:23:25,400 --> 01:23:27,400
Speaker 1: do not have QB one Right now.

1662
01:23:28,040 --> 01:23:28,920
Speaker 3: So a couple things won.

1663
01:23:28,960 --> 01:23:31,479
Speaker 2: When dis Sega mentioned that next Saturday, we get Bill's

1664
01:23:31,720 --> 01:23:37,040
Speaker 2: Chargers in an eight pm Eastern timeslot on Peacock streaming only,

1665
01:23:37,760 --> 01:23:39,599
Speaker 2: it struck me as like, oh, you know, I bet

1666
01:23:39,600 --> 01:23:42,000
Speaker 2: the NBC execs, you know that they had that game

1667
01:23:42,040 --> 01:23:43,760
Speaker 2: and they said, let's put it on the streaming service.

1668
01:23:43,800 --> 01:23:45,400
Speaker 3: Everyone's gonna want to watch it. I mean, how can

1669
01:23:45,400 --> 01:23:45,960
Speaker 3: you turn.

1670
01:23:45,840 --> 01:23:52,440
Speaker 2: Down Alex Hurt Josh, Yeah, exactly, so so so that

1671
01:23:52,920 --> 01:23:55,479
Speaker 2: I mean, listen, I mean, I I figured out a

1672
01:23:55,479 --> 01:23:57,719
Speaker 2: way to get on Peacock today because we had perdue

1673
01:23:57,800 --> 01:24:00,880
Speaker 2: Arizona and that bad boy. Sole's say exactly how I

1674
01:24:00,880 --> 01:24:02,400
Speaker 2: got on there, you know, listen, I can't him.

1675
01:24:02,600 --> 01:24:04,519
Speaker 1: Oh really, my secrets but easy.

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01:24:05,479 --> 01:24:09,639
Speaker 2: So why I bring it up is because, yeah, Easton

1677
01:24:09,720 --> 01:24:12,320
Speaker 2: Stick versus Josh Allen has a much different ring than

1678
01:24:12,439 --> 01:24:15,640
Speaker 2: than Alan versus Herbert. But let me ask you, I

1679
01:24:15,680 --> 01:24:18,880
Speaker 2: heard so why do you think it is that? Is

1680
01:24:18,920 --> 01:24:20,599
Speaker 2: it just bad luck?

1681
01:24:21,120 --> 01:24:21,400
Speaker 1: Do you?

1682
01:24:21,920 --> 01:24:25,040
Speaker 3: I mean? Why? Because I heard a very interesting theory.

1683
01:24:25,400 --> 01:24:26,120
Speaker 1: I have a theory.

1684
01:24:26,200 --> 01:24:27,519
Speaker 3: Go ahead, Lena, I have a theory.

1685
01:24:27,640 --> 01:24:30,240
Speaker 1: I haven't heard anybody say this, and this this may

1686
01:24:30,280 --> 01:24:32,800
Speaker 1: sound far fetched, It may even go in in the

1687
01:24:32,920 --> 01:24:36,120
Speaker 1: terms of feeling conspiratorial in some way, and I have

1688
01:24:36,200 --> 01:24:39,639
Speaker 1: nothing to back it except just I'm looking at other

1689
01:24:39,720 --> 01:24:43,720
Speaker 1: things where this has been made an argument, even though

1690
01:24:43,720 --> 01:24:49,479
Speaker 1: it can't be proven that way either. One of the

1691
01:24:49,600 --> 01:24:53,360
Speaker 1: knocks against for like an anti vax crowd. One of

1692
01:24:53,400 --> 01:24:56,920
Speaker 1: the things that they point to about why they're against

1693
01:24:57,000 --> 01:25:00,800
Speaker 1: vaccines is that vaccines have made people soft. It's made

1694
01:25:00,840 --> 01:25:04,439
Speaker 1: their immune systems weak to a point where there's a

1695
01:25:04,439 --> 01:25:06,719
Speaker 1: reason why a lot of folks back in the day

1696
01:25:06,720 --> 01:25:09,400
Speaker 1: didn't have seventeen thousand vaccines. But they also didn't get

1697
01:25:09,479 --> 01:25:12,559
Speaker 1: sick every two weeks with a bunch of varying stuff,

1698
01:25:12,600 --> 01:25:14,720
Speaker 1: and there weren't all of these allergies and all of

1699
01:25:14,720 --> 01:25:17,040
Speaker 1: this kind of stuff that we now know, and a

1700
01:25:17,040 --> 01:25:18,439
Speaker 1: lot of it is because a lot of it is

1701
01:25:18,520 --> 01:25:21,120
Speaker 1: covered up. We're not asked to do quite as much.

1702
01:25:21,560 --> 01:25:24,400
Speaker 1: So weird way to get to this point. And again

1703
01:25:24,840 --> 01:25:27,200
Speaker 1: I have no idea. This is just something that popped

1704
01:25:27,200 --> 01:25:30,360
Speaker 1: into my head. Is it possible because you can't protect

1705
01:25:30,439 --> 01:25:34,120
Speaker 1: quarterbacks more than we're protecting them right now in tackle football?

1706
01:25:34,120 --> 01:25:35,840
Speaker 3: Oh, I like, you can't.

1707
01:25:35,960 --> 01:25:39,639
Speaker 1: You can't do that. So what I was thinking, as

1708
01:25:39,640 --> 01:25:42,559
Speaker 1: far fast as it might be, is it possible we've

1709
01:25:42,600 --> 01:25:46,920
Speaker 1: protected them so much that now they're not used to

1710
01:25:46,960 --> 01:25:51,320
Speaker 1: the physicality that quarterbacks of yesteryear were, and so even

1711
01:25:52,200 --> 01:25:55,400
Speaker 1: the littlest thing can injure them, or their bodies just

1712
01:25:55,520 --> 01:25:58,200
Speaker 1: aren't as tough as they once were because they're not

1713
01:25:58,240 --> 01:26:01,120
Speaker 1: asked to they're not asked to take that kind of punishment.

1714
01:26:01,160 --> 01:26:06,200
Speaker 1: And at the same time, they're doubling their athletic their athleticism,

1715
01:26:06,520 --> 01:26:09,640
Speaker 1: and so they're running more, they're putting more strain on

1716
01:26:09,680 --> 01:26:12,600
Speaker 1: their bodies, but their bodies aren't used to the punishment

1717
01:26:12,880 --> 01:26:16,559
Speaker 1: that guys were twenty years ago. That's a weird theory,

1718
01:26:16,600 --> 01:26:18,240
Speaker 1: but it's just something I thought about.

1719
01:26:18,040 --> 01:26:21,679
Speaker 3: To No, this is my load management theory? Is that?

1720
01:26:22,640 --> 01:26:22,800
Speaker 7: Yeah?

1721
01:26:22,840 --> 01:26:23,080
Speaker 4: It is?

1722
01:26:23,240 --> 01:26:25,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, you're right, So, like this is my whole thing

1723
01:26:25,760 --> 01:26:28,559
Speaker 2: on load management is there's this whole you know, like, oh, well,

1724
01:26:28,600 --> 01:26:30,439
Speaker 2: I mean if you get more rest then it's good

1725
01:26:30,439 --> 01:26:32,400
Speaker 2: for your body, and it's like, yeah, I mean, Lebron

1726
01:26:32,479 --> 01:26:34,200
Speaker 2: James at thirty nine years old doesn't have to play

1727
01:26:34,240 --> 01:26:37,280
Speaker 2: eighty two games. But what has ended up happening is

1728
01:26:37,960 --> 01:26:40,439
Speaker 2: guys play for two or three days, then they sit

1729
01:26:40,479 --> 01:26:42,519
Speaker 2: for two or three days. And it's been better this year.

1730
01:26:42,560 --> 01:26:45,400
Speaker 2: The league is really cracked down on it. But I

1731
01:26:45,560 --> 01:26:49,040
Speaker 2: found load management to be very counter intuitive from the

1732
01:26:49,080 --> 01:26:52,680
Speaker 2: perspective that your body isn't used to playing, you know,

1733
01:26:52,800 --> 01:26:54,760
Speaker 2: three games in five nights like you need to in

1734
01:26:54,800 --> 01:26:57,559
Speaker 2: the playoffs. Because every time there's a third game in

1735
01:26:57,600 --> 01:26:59,599
Speaker 2: five nights, guess who's sitting on the bench and straight

1736
01:26:59,640 --> 01:27:01,400
Speaker 2: clothes fill in the Blake Superstars. So this is my

1737
01:27:01,439 --> 01:27:04,960
Speaker 2: theory on load management. And I will say, listen, I've

1738
01:27:05,040 --> 01:27:08,040
Speaker 2: used this example and I'm paraphrasing. And this guy I

1739
01:27:08,040 --> 01:27:10,479
Speaker 2: think is a contributor to our local affiliate here in

1740
01:27:10,600 --> 01:27:12,639
Speaker 2: LA So I'd love to have him on at some point.

1741
01:27:12,640 --> 01:27:15,240
Speaker 2: I don't know if it's possible, But Eric Dickerson actually

1742
01:27:15,240 --> 01:27:18,040
Speaker 2: said exactly what you said, Jason. Is he said that

1743
01:27:19,320 --> 01:27:21,519
Speaker 2: the year that he had a contract hold out, and

1744
01:27:21,560 --> 01:27:24,240
Speaker 2: I'm paraphrasing, and if Eric's listening, I apologize if I'm

1745
01:27:24,240 --> 01:27:26,839
Speaker 2: butchering your story whatever, but I bring it up because

1746
01:27:27,000 --> 01:27:30,960
Speaker 2: he said that his worst year from a health perspective,

1747
01:27:31,000 --> 01:27:35,000
Speaker 2: at least early in his career, was actually the year.

1748
01:27:35,240 --> 01:27:35,920
Speaker 8: That he.

1749
01:27:37,400 --> 01:27:39,640
Speaker 2: Held out in training camp for a new contract. And

1750
01:27:40,040 --> 01:27:43,960
Speaker 2: he basically said that. It sounds counterintuitive, right, I didn't

1751
01:27:43,960 --> 01:27:46,280
Speaker 2: play till week three or week four or whatever. But

1752
01:27:46,320 --> 01:27:48,960
Speaker 2: He's like, my body was in a routine, you know,

1753
01:27:49,080 --> 01:27:51,400
Speaker 2: in March and April. I'd ramp up and then I'd

1754
01:27:51,439 --> 01:27:53,160
Speaker 2: do this, and then we'd hit training camp, and then

1755
01:27:53,160 --> 01:27:55,080
Speaker 2: we have preseason, then we have this, then we have that.

1756
01:27:56,040 --> 01:27:59,639
Speaker 2: I do think there's probably something to what you're saying, Jason,

1757
01:27:59,640 --> 01:28:03,280
Speaker 2: because I just think about, besides all the rules, now,

1758
01:28:03,320 --> 01:28:06,439
Speaker 2: guys aren't even taking hits in the preseason at all. Right,

1759
01:28:06,560 --> 01:28:09,799
Speaker 2: They're not taking hits obviously in any type of training

1760
01:28:09,800 --> 01:28:12,120
Speaker 2: camp setting. Although I guess with these inner squad script

1761
01:28:12,160 --> 01:28:14,200
Speaker 2: what do they call them, the joint joint practices, Maybe

1762
01:28:14,200 --> 01:28:18,280
Speaker 2: they are, but I do wonder if there is something

1763
01:28:18,400 --> 01:28:23,759
Speaker 2: to that of you're really not getting live live live

1764
01:28:23,960 --> 01:28:27,760
Speaker 2: live Live Live Live reps until Week one, where it's like,

1765
01:28:28,160 --> 01:28:30,280
Speaker 2: you know, you used to have the ramp up period

1766
01:28:30,360 --> 01:28:33,280
Speaker 2: in training camp, then you'd have two or three games

1767
01:28:33,320 --> 01:28:36,280
Speaker 2: in the preseason to at least get your body acclimated

1768
01:28:36,320 --> 01:28:37,360
Speaker 2: to the speed of the game.

1769
01:28:39,720 --> 01:28:41,360
Speaker 3: I think there might be something to that.

1770
01:28:41,520 --> 01:28:44,080
Speaker 2: I you know, I didn't know where you're going when

1771
01:28:44,080 --> 01:28:46,439
Speaker 2: you started talking about the vaxxes, but I think there

1772
01:28:46,520 --> 01:28:47,840
Speaker 2: might be something to that.

1773
01:28:47,920 --> 01:28:49,479
Speaker 1: Does it?

1774
01:28:50,640 --> 01:28:52,360
Speaker 3: It makes sense and for people to don't follow it.

1775
01:28:52,439 --> 01:28:56,519
Speaker 2: Essentially, it's that because the rules have swayed so far

1776
01:28:56,600 --> 01:29:00,000
Speaker 2: the other direction as far as protecting the quarterbacks are concerned.

1777
01:29:00,000 --> 01:29:03,080
Speaker 2: Earned Essentially, their bodies aren't used to get hit, their bodies

1778
01:29:03,080 --> 01:29:04,479
Speaker 2: an't used to getting thrown around, and then when you

1779
01:29:04,520 --> 01:29:08,320
Speaker 2: get into game action it ends up having a negative effect.

1780
01:29:08,400 --> 01:29:09,400
Speaker 3: I will say this, Jason.

1781
01:29:09,960 --> 01:29:11,680
Speaker 2: The one theory that I heard this week, I think

1782
01:29:11,760 --> 01:29:14,760
Speaker 2: was Colin who mentioned this, and I thought there was

1783
01:29:14,800 --> 01:29:17,800
Speaker 2: something to it. This is like a cousin of what

1784
01:29:18,439 --> 01:29:21,880
Speaker 2: the argument that you just made, which is that because

1785
01:29:22,040 --> 01:29:25,559
Speaker 2: of the way that we now practice. What Colin argued

1786
01:29:25,720 --> 01:29:29,280
Speaker 2: was that essentially O line play has never been worse.

1787
01:29:29,360 --> 01:29:33,759
Speaker 2: O line is a position of continuity, a position of

1788
01:29:34,160 --> 01:29:37,759
Speaker 2: you know, guys working together whatever whatever, and now again

1789
01:29:39,240 --> 01:29:42,320
Speaker 2: less hitting in practice. Less this less that it leads

1790
01:29:42,360 --> 01:29:46,480
Speaker 2: to less continuity along the offensive line, which leads to obviously,

1791
01:29:47,200 --> 01:29:49,519
Speaker 2: I don't know if there's any statistical proof that sack

1792
01:29:49,600 --> 01:29:52,000
Speaker 2: numbers are up or anything, but basically the O lines

1793
01:29:52,280 --> 01:29:54,680
Speaker 2: are not as good as they've ever are as bad

1794
01:29:54,720 --> 01:29:56,920
Speaker 2: as they've ever been. I don't know if that's provable

1795
01:29:57,040 --> 01:30:00,120
Speaker 2: or not, but essentially that the rules have made OH

1796
01:30:00,240 --> 01:30:02,960
Speaker 2: line play tougher than ever. Bad old line play leads

1797
01:30:02,960 --> 01:30:05,479
Speaker 2: to bad quarterback injuries. So I've talked a lot. I'll

1798
01:30:05,479 --> 01:30:07,240
Speaker 2: give you the floor, But that's kind of the theory

1799
01:30:07,280 --> 01:30:09,240
Speaker 2: that I was thinking, which again is kind of a

1800
01:30:09,280 --> 01:30:11,240
Speaker 2: cousin to the theory that you just expressed.

1801
01:30:11,280 --> 01:30:13,599
Speaker 1: I mean, it's probably a conglomeration in factors, and there's

1802
01:30:13,600 --> 01:30:16,600
Speaker 1: no question it has been a bad luck kind of

1803
01:30:16,680 --> 01:30:18,679
Speaker 1: year two. But I mean I'm looking to the teams

1804
01:30:18,720 --> 01:30:22,800
Speaker 1: right now. In the AFC East, Tua magically hasn't really

1805
01:30:22,840 --> 01:30:25,320
Speaker 1: been hurt this year, but Aaron Rodgers went down in

1806
01:30:25,320 --> 01:30:27,719
Speaker 1: week one. All right, so there's an AFC East knocked out.

1807
01:30:27,800 --> 01:30:30,920
Speaker 1: AFC North. Well, you've got no Joe Burrow you've got

1808
01:30:30,920 --> 01:30:33,879
Speaker 1: no Deshaun Watson. You've also currently got no Kenny Pickett.

1809
01:30:33,880 --> 01:30:36,080
Speaker 1: So three of the four are out. C J. Stroud

1810
01:30:36,160 --> 01:30:39,280
Speaker 1: is out with a concussion right now. Anthony Richardson out

1811
01:30:39,320 --> 01:30:43,880
Speaker 1: for much of this season. Ryan Tannehill lost lost his

1812
01:30:44,000 --> 01:30:46,559
Speaker 1: job while he was injured. He was knocked out before

1813
01:30:46,600 --> 01:30:50,080
Speaker 1: that point. And then you go to the West. You

1814
01:30:50,120 --> 01:30:52,080
Speaker 1: look at the West and you've had You've got Aidan

1815
01:30:52,120 --> 01:30:54,760
Speaker 1: O'Connell playing for the Raiders right now. You've got Justin

1816
01:30:54,800 --> 01:30:58,000
Speaker 1: Herbert out right now. Daniel Jones at the NFC East

1817
01:30:58,040 --> 01:31:02,120
Speaker 1: is out right now. It's just happening. It's happened everywhere.

1818
01:31:02,240 --> 01:31:05,880
Speaker 1: Kirk Cousins was on the Manning cast on Monday Night

1819
01:31:06,600 --> 01:31:09,080
Speaker 1: because he can't suit up for the Vikings because he

1820
01:31:09,160 --> 01:31:12,800
Speaker 1: was knocked out earlier this year. It's happened everywhere. We've

1821
01:31:12,800 --> 01:31:15,759
Speaker 1: seen Derek Carr go down with the Saints. We've seen

1822
01:31:15,880 --> 01:31:18,320
Speaker 1: Kyler come back from injury this year. But we've seen

1823
01:31:18,360 --> 01:31:22,120
Speaker 1: Stafford miss a game this year as well. Gino missed

1824
01:31:22,120 --> 01:31:24,559
Speaker 1: a game and he got Drew Locke in there. Every

1825
01:31:24,800 --> 01:31:28,479
Speaker 1: division has been touched by a quarterback injury. We are

1826
01:31:28,520 --> 01:31:31,320
Speaker 1: watching so many guys right now. And I do think

1827
01:31:31,360 --> 01:31:33,280
Speaker 1: that this has an effect on the product, like the

1828
01:31:33,760 --> 01:31:36,439
Speaker 1: NFL is still the NFL. By the way, that Vikings

1829
01:31:36,439 --> 01:31:38,479
Speaker 1: Bengals game was excellent, Like it was a lot of

1830
01:31:38,479 --> 01:31:41,080
Speaker 1: fun to watch, and I thought that Mullens played pretty

1831
01:31:41,120 --> 01:31:44,599
Speaker 1: well after some early struggles, and Browning showed again he's

1832
01:31:44,720 --> 01:31:46,280
Speaker 1: up to the task right now. He's doing what a

1833
01:31:46,320 --> 01:31:50,000
Speaker 1: backup should do. But this is a problem, Like when

1834
01:31:50,040 --> 01:31:53,840
Speaker 1: you don't have the marquee quarterbacks playing, it can definitely

1835
01:31:53,920 --> 01:31:56,760
Speaker 1: be harder to sit down and watch an NFL game,

1836
01:31:56,800 --> 01:32:00,679
Speaker 1: Like I found myself today kind of not is excited

1837
01:32:00,680 --> 01:32:03,200
Speaker 1: about the idea that we had three NFL games, even

1838
01:32:03,240 --> 01:32:07,400
Speaker 1: with playoff implications in almost all of them, because of

1839
01:32:07,439 --> 01:32:10,559
Speaker 1: the lack of starting quarterbacks, Like what are we learning

1840
01:32:10,800 --> 01:32:14,479
Speaker 1: which team is better when QB one is out? It's

1841
01:32:14,600 --> 01:32:18,479
Speaker 1: really hard in that point. It just shows again you

1842
01:32:18,520 --> 01:32:20,960
Speaker 1: can't protect the quarterbacks more I don't think than they're

1843
01:32:21,000 --> 01:32:24,120
Speaker 1: being protected right now. So what exactly do you do

1844
01:32:24,200 --> 01:32:25,200
Speaker 1: in this circumstance.

1845
01:32:26,200 --> 01:32:28,160
Speaker 2: I don't know what you can do obviously, unless you

1846
01:32:28,200 --> 01:32:30,000
Speaker 2: change the rules, which isn't gonna happen. By the way,

1847
01:32:30,360 --> 01:32:32,880
Speaker 2: one other thing that somebody else mentioned, I would love

1848
01:32:32,920 --> 01:32:35,759
Speaker 2: to give him credit, but I don't know who said it. Frankly,

1849
01:32:36,640 --> 01:32:39,880
Speaker 2: you know, obviously this isn't the exact same situation, but

1850
01:32:40,120 --> 01:32:41,639
Speaker 2: you know, you start talking about some of the guys

1851
01:32:41,640 --> 01:32:44,000
Speaker 2: that have seen playing time, that Nick Mullins of the

1852
01:32:44,000 --> 01:32:47,320
Speaker 2: world whatever. I thought somebody brought up an interesting thing

1853
01:32:47,400 --> 01:32:50,680
Speaker 2: this week of the other factor, as far as the

1854
01:32:50,760 --> 01:32:53,280
Speaker 2: quality of the backups, which I thought was very interesting,

1855
01:32:53,840 --> 01:33:02,040
Speaker 2: is that now in college with NIL, a fringe, third, fourth,

1856
01:33:02,160 --> 01:33:05,840
Speaker 2: fifth round pick will probably make more money going back

1857
01:33:05,840 --> 01:33:07,840
Speaker 2: to college for another year than they would as a pro.

1858
01:33:08,080 --> 01:33:11,640
Speaker 2: So if there was no Nil, would Michael Pennix be

1859
01:33:11,720 --> 01:33:14,320
Speaker 2: in the league, maybe be backup, but you know, probably

1860
01:33:14,360 --> 01:33:16,920
Speaker 2: be a lot more exciting to watch than that. After

1861
01:33:17,000 --> 01:33:18,559
Speaker 2: last year, maybe he would have been a back up,

1862
01:33:18,560 --> 01:33:20,280
Speaker 2: but you get the point. You know, he's gonna be

1863
01:33:20,320 --> 01:33:22,640
Speaker 2: a first round pick this year, but last year, you know,

1864
01:33:23,040 --> 01:33:26,519
Speaker 2: maybe he comes into the league, get money, whatever, he's

1865
01:33:26,560 --> 01:33:29,320
Speaker 2: a backup. Now he's playing, that's at least a little

1866
01:33:29,360 --> 01:33:31,960
Speaker 2: bit more entertaining than Easton Stick or Nick Mullens or

1867
01:33:32,000 --> 01:33:34,519
Speaker 2: whatever bow Knicks. If there's no Nil, is he in

1868
01:33:34,560 --> 01:33:35,280
Speaker 2: the NFL right now?

1869
01:33:35,320 --> 01:33:37,240
Speaker 1: Because you mentioned Nicks, and I think that's a really

1870
01:33:37,240 --> 01:33:39,519
Speaker 1: interesting point that you're making. I just I don't want

1871
01:33:39,560 --> 01:33:42,760
Speaker 1: to leave this please. Bo Nicks agreed to play in

1872
01:33:42,800 --> 01:33:49,200
Speaker 1: this bowl game? Are you a little surprised by that? So?

1873
01:33:50,479 --> 01:33:54,840
Speaker 3: Not really only because one.

1874
01:33:57,280 --> 01:33:59,800
Speaker 2: You know, listen, this is what Nick Nick Saban makes

1875
01:33:59,840 --> 01:34:02,000
Speaker 2: the argument every time one of his guys wants to

1876
01:34:02,000 --> 01:34:03,800
Speaker 2: opt out of a non playoff bowl game. He's like,

1877
01:34:04,160 --> 01:34:06,800
Speaker 2: any tape you put out there is going to be good.

1878
01:34:07,080 --> 01:34:10,439
Speaker 2: And bow Knicks, I don't you know, maybe I haven't

1879
01:34:10,479 --> 01:34:12,800
Speaker 2: read the right draft board. I haven't seen anything that

1880
01:34:12,880 --> 01:34:16,519
Speaker 2: says he's a definitive first round pick, top ten pick.

1881
01:34:16,600 --> 01:34:17,120
Speaker 3: Da da dah.

1882
01:34:17,160 --> 01:34:17,439
Speaker 1: This shit.

1883
01:34:18,200 --> 01:34:21,280
Speaker 2: The guy that has surprised me unless I miss something

1884
01:34:21,280 --> 01:34:24,479
Speaker 2: over the last couple of days, Jayden Daniels, whose stock

1885
01:34:24,640 --> 01:34:27,080
Speaker 2: appears to be shooting through the roof in the terms

1886
01:34:27,120 --> 01:34:31,759
Speaker 2: of NFL draft stuff, he has been He hasn't officially

1887
01:34:31,760 --> 01:34:34,120
Speaker 2: opted out yet. Now, not opting out doesn't mean that

1888
01:34:34,120 --> 01:34:36,880
Speaker 2: you're gonna play, But I just bring it up because

1889
01:34:36,920 --> 01:34:40,320
Speaker 2: that's one where like if he played, because now people

1890
01:34:40,360 --> 01:34:42,880
Speaker 2: are talking about him as maybe the third quarterback off

1891
01:34:42,920 --> 01:34:45,200
Speaker 2: the board with the season that he had. I'm not

1892
01:34:45,360 --> 01:34:47,360
Speaker 2: enough of a draft expert to know if that's gonna

1893
01:34:47,439 --> 01:34:50,280
Speaker 2: end up being the case on draft night, but that

1894
01:34:50,320 --> 01:34:53,400
Speaker 2: would be the one that's surprising bo Nicks not really.

1895
01:34:53,600 --> 01:34:55,320
Speaker 1: The only reason the only reason I mentioned a bow

1896
01:34:55,400 --> 01:34:57,400
Speaker 1: Knicks thing is because so you talk about him not

1897
01:34:57,439 --> 01:35:00,360
Speaker 1: being you know, guaranteed top ten pick or everything. I

1898
01:35:00,400 --> 01:35:04,720
Speaker 1: agree with you. Remember Matt Corral a couple of years ago,

1899
01:35:06,760 --> 01:35:09,559
Speaker 1: Reah like Matt Corrall played in that Bowl game, and

1900
01:35:09,600 --> 01:35:13,160
Speaker 1: we continually said, hey, you know, this is horrible. He

1901
01:35:13,200 --> 01:35:15,280
Speaker 1: made the decision he wanted to make, he wanted to

1902
01:35:15,280 --> 01:35:19,160
Speaker 1: be there for his team. Good for him. It hurt him, though.

1903
01:35:19,320 --> 01:35:22,240
Speaker 1: I mean, we never knew what we never are going

1904
01:35:22,280 --> 01:35:24,840
Speaker 1: to know what. Maybe he would have been in the

1905
01:35:24,920 --> 01:35:26,680
Speaker 1: NFL had he been fully healthy. It looks like there

1906
01:35:26,680 --> 01:35:28,479
Speaker 1: were some other problems there. I don't know what Boennick

1907
01:35:28,600 --> 01:35:30,320
Speaker 1: is going to be in the pros, but I look

1908
01:35:30,360 --> 01:35:32,519
Speaker 1: at him similar to the way I look at Matt Corral, like,

1909
01:35:33,080 --> 01:35:35,360
Speaker 1: I guess you want that experience. I get that, and

1910
01:35:35,400 --> 01:35:38,960
Speaker 1: hopefully Bonix is not hurt and everything's going to go there.

1911
01:35:39,280 --> 01:35:41,080
Speaker 1: But I look at that and say, if you're not

1912
01:35:41,120 --> 01:35:45,840
Speaker 1: a guaranteed top ten pick, then maybe you even have

1913
01:35:45,960 --> 01:35:48,679
Speaker 1: more incentive not to step in and do the wrong

1914
01:35:48,760 --> 01:35:51,720
Speaker 1: thing or put yourself in danger because you're not going

1915
01:35:51,800 --> 01:35:53,800
Speaker 1: to have as much guaranteed money coming in in the

1916
01:35:53,800 --> 01:35:57,120
Speaker 1: first place. I don't know, I just I was a

1917
01:35:57,160 --> 01:36:00,599
Speaker 1: little surprised by it, just because of how deflate it

1918
01:36:00,640 --> 01:36:04,240
Speaker 1: had to feel for Oregon season to end the way

1919
01:36:04,280 --> 01:36:07,960
Speaker 1: that it did at the hands of Washington again in

1920
01:36:08,000 --> 01:36:10,680
Speaker 1: that Bowl game, in a game where boonicks just he

1921
01:36:10,760 --> 01:36:12,880
Speaker 1: just didn't have it that night, and maybe that's it.

1922
01:36:12,920 --> 01:36:15,719
Speaker 1: Maybe he just wants a better he wants a better

1923
01:36:15,760 --> 01:36:18,080
Speaker 1: finish for his career, and he wants the Oregon fans

1924
01:36:18,120 --> 01:36:20,880
Speaker 1: to to get that finished as well. And again, I'm

1925
01:36:20,920 --> 01:36:24,200
Speaker 1: not angry with him. I'm not going to criticize him

1926
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Speaker 1: if he gets hurt. I was just kind of surprised

1927
01:36:26,240 --> 01:36:29,080
Speaker 1: because it did sound like that night he was leaning

1928
01:36:29,080 --> 01:36:30,080
Speaker 1: towards not playing.

1929
01:36:30,439 --> 01:36:32,479
Speaker 2: Yeah, last thought on that note, You know, you talk

1930
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Speaker 2: about the idea of him being a fringe for whatever

1931
01:36:35,800 --> 01:36:38,680
Speaker 2: whatever he is, fringe first, early second, whatever he ends

1932
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Speaker 2: up being, and maybe that's more of an incentive not

1933
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Speaker 2: to play, so you don't, you know, so you don't

1934
01:36:43,520 --> 01:36:45,919
Speaker 2: risk anything. I thought it was interesting that Sam Hartman,

1935
01:36:46,320 --> 01:36:49,040
Speaker 2: the Notre Dame quarterback who's probably a third fourth round

1936
01:36:49,040 --> 01:36:51,680
Speaker 2: guy if that decided to opt out this weekend. On

1937
01:36:51,720 --> 01:36:53,800
Speaker 2: the one hand, I was like, are you are you

1938
01:36:53,960 --> 01:36:56,160
Speaker 2: good enough to be opting out of bowl games? But

1939
01:36:56,200 --> 01:36:58,639
Speaker 2: then the counter is, you know, he's a six year quarterback.

1940
01:36:58,680 --> 01:37:00,640
Speaker 2: I don't really know that he's anything else approved So

1941
01:37:01,240 --> 01:37:04,960
Speaker 2: uh so interesting times for sure, uh as we head

1942
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Speaker 2: into bowldseason.

1943
01:37:05,680 --> 01:37:09,519
Speaker 3: But to answer your question, I was, but I wasn't. Uh.

1944
01:37:09,560 --> 01:37:11,120
Speaker 3: I am surprised by some of the other ones.

1945
01:37:11,160 --> 01:37:14,800
Speaker 2: Like I said, Jayden Daniels so far has been uh, noncommittal,

1946
01:37:15,200 --> 01:37:18,200
Speaker 2: but but you know, noncommittal from the perspective, that sounds

1947
01:37:18,200 --> 01:37:20,160
Speaker 2: like he could actually play in that game, which would

1948
01:37:20,160 --> 01:37:22,639
Speaker 2: be a little bit surprising to me. Fox Sports Radio

1949
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Speaker 2: ertors Jason Martin. We are broadcasting live from the diirec

1950
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1955
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Speaker 2: look ahead to a busy Sunday slate. Three games today,

1956
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Speaker 2: plenty more tomorrow. We'll previe you them all next.

1957
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Speaker 3: Fox Sports Radio, Welcome back everybody.

1958
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Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio ertors Jason Martin broadcasting live from the

1959
01:38:00,479 --> 01:38:02,519
Speaker 2: com Studios. By the way, Jason, we did get an

1960
01:38:02,520 --> 01:38:06,519
Speaker 2: interesting tweet from griddles.

1961
01:38:06,080 --> 01:38:07,800
Speaker 3: Make blackout all right?

1962
01:38:07,960 --> 01:38:12,040
Speaker 2: Interesting name about the uh we're talking before the break

1963
01:38:12,080 --> 01:38:15,000
Speaker 2: about the quarterback injuries. Is there a reason they're all happening?

1964
01:38:15,600 --> 01:38:18,360
Speaker 2: He brought up an interesting point, actually, he said, second

1965
01:38:18,400 --> 01:38:21,760
Speaker 2: cousin of what you guys are saying, quarterbacks feel more

1966
01:38:21,760 --> 01:38:26,160
Speaker 2: comfortable in the pocket technically because of the rules, the

1967
01:38:26,160 --> 01:38:28,880
Speaker 2: way that they're in place, less fear of getting blown up,

1968
01:38:28,960 --> 01:38:31,880
Speaker 2: holding the ball on longer, not ready to absorb the hit.

1969
01:38:32,120 --> 01:38:35,360
Speaker 2: So essentially, because of the rules have been so softened,

1970
01:38:36,240 --> 01:38:38,639
Speaker 2: they're more comfortable just kind of standing in the pocket

1971
01:38:38,680 --> 01:38:40,240
Speaker 2: and not ready for a hit. So when they do

1972
01:38:40,320 --> 01:38:43,800
Speaker 2: get hit, you know, bad stuff happens. I thought it

1973
01:38:43,840 --> 01:38:45,960
Speaker 2: was kind of an interesting twist to kind of everything

1974
01:38:46,000 --> 01:38:47,200
Speaker 2: we were talking about last second.

1975
01:38:47,240 --> 01:38:51,479
Speaker 1: That is interesting. You almost feel I used to word

1976
01:38:51,479 --> 01:38:54,160
Speaker 1: about Draymond earlier, but it's almost like the quarterbacks are

1977
01:38:54,240 --> 01:38:58,519
Speaker 1: enabling this because they feel safe. Yeah, where they feel

1978
01:38:58,560 --> 01:39:02,880
Speaker 1: more safe because they know they're probably gonna get a call,

1979
01:39:03,439 --> 01:39:06,040
Speaker 1: and so maybe the defender is not going to come

1980
01:39:06,080 --> 01:39:08,639
Speaker 1: at them the same way that they would have ten

1981
01:39:08,720 --> 01:39:11,320
Speaker 1: or fifteen years ago or something. That's an interesting argument.

1982
01:39:11,479 --> 01:39:15,160
Speaker 1: I mean that you're right, that is definitely a sibling

1983
01:39:15,240 --> 01:39:16,760
Speaker 1: of kind of the same kind of thing that we

1984
01:39:16,760 --> 01:39:21,000
Speaker 1: were discussing. Again, you can't protect quarterbacks more than they're

1985
01:39:21,000 --> 01:39:23,719
Speaker 1: being protected. But the amount of quarterbacks that have gone

1986
01:39:23,800 --> 01:39:28,200
Speaker 1: down this year is staggering, and we're gonna have to

1987
01:39:28,280 --> 01:39:31,840
Speaker 1: get more data in the years to come to kind

1988
01:39:31,840 --> 01:39:35,080
Speaker 1: of see whether or not this is an aberration or

1989
01:39:35,120 --> 01:39:36,920
Speaker 1: if this is something that needs to be taken a

1990
01:39:36,960 --> 01:39:39,479
Speaker 1: little bit more seriously in years to come. But again,

1991
01:39:39,760 --> 01:39:43,759
Speaker 1: there's just it's not good for the product. It's really

1992
01:39:43,840 --> 01:39:46,240
Speaker 1: bad not having all these quarterbacks in these games. It

1993
01:39:46,960 --> 01:39:49,360
Speaker 1: just doesn't feel like the same league.

1994
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Speaker 3: It doesn't.

1995
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Speaker 2: The good news, though, is a few of these guys

1996
01:39:52,280 --> 01:39:55,680
Speaker 2: are still healthy, including Dak and Josh Allen. So with

1997
01:39:55,760 --> 01:39:58,400
Speaker 2: that said, let's get to the weekend preview. Lorraina give

1998
01:39:58,479 --> 01:40:00,800
Speaker 2: us some music and I think I kind of just

1999
01:40:00,840 --> 01:40:02,920
Speaker 2: stole your thunder, But what is the first game that

2000
01:40:02,960 --> 01:40:03,880
Speaker 2: we are previewing?

2001
01:40:04,040 --> 01:40:05,719
Speaker 3: Not that I just kind of give it away.

2002
01:40:05,520 --> 01:40:08,400
Speaker 8: But well, you know what, Aaron, it really is the

2003
01:40:08,479 --> 01:40:12,640
Speaker 8: Dallas Cowboys taking on the Buffalo Bills. Brandon Truffa is

2004
01:40:12,680 --> 01:40:16,519
Speaker 8: Buffalo Bills. I might add our home Buffy's home, and

2005
01:40:16,800 --> 01:40:20,599
Speaker 8: the favorite, believe it or not, is actually Buffalo favored

2006
01:40:20,640 --> 01:40:21,559
Speaker 8: by two points.

2007
01:40:22,479 --> 01:40:25,599
Speaker 3: Starts off aeron what do you think you know? Listen?

2008
01:40:26,160 --> 01:40:27,120
Speaker 3: So a couple things.

2009
01:40:27,240 --> 01:40:31,479
Speaker 2: One I know I said last week Dallas I needed

2010
01:40:31,520 --> 01:40:33,120
Speaker 2: to see him do it against Philly. They did it

2011
01:40:33,160 --> 01:40:36,360
Speaker 2: against Philly. I think this is a tough spot though, Jason,

2012
01:40:36,400 --> 01:40:38,840
Speaker 2: and it is. Yeah, like it's a lot of the

2013
01:40:38,880 --> 01:40:41,599
Speaker 2: analysis has been this way this week, and so I'm

2014
01:40:41,600 --> 01:40:43,360
Speaker 2: not trying to claim this as a unique thing. But

2015
01:40:43,800 --> 01:40:46,439
Speaker 2: to have that emotional Sunday night win, I know is

2016
01:40:46,479 --> 01:40:49,960
Speaker 2: an emotional win for Buffalo as well, but emotional dominant

2017
01:40:50,000 --> 01:40:52,519
Speaker 2: Sunday night win. Everybody's telling you how great you are.

2018
01:40:52,560 --> 01:40:56,000
Speaker 2: You played indoors, temperature controlled. Now you gotta fly up

2019
01:40:56,040 --> 01:40:58,600
Speaker 2: to Buffalo. Temperature is gonna be right around freezing a

2020
01:40:58,680 --> 01:41:02,280
Speaker 2: kickoff about thirty two thirty three degrees. Just a tough

2021
01:41:02,320 --> 01:41:06,839
Speaker 2: spot to ask them to go get another win. Buffalo should,

2022
01:41:06,840 --> 01:41:09,479
Speaker 2: in theory, be pretty fresh one game off the buy

2023
01:41:10,160 --> 01:41:11,040
Speaker 2: I do like Buffalo.

2024
01:41:11,080 --> 01:41:12,840
Speaker 3: I see Weather favor Yeah, I do.

2025
01:41:12,920 --> 01:41:17,719
Speaker 1: Too, And for me, it's just thirty six degrees right now.

2026
01:41:18,560 --> 01:41:21,840
Speaker 1: That's that to me is different. I haven't seen dak

2027
01:41:21,920 --> 01:41:24,559
Speaker 1: in cole Weather in a while. That is that gonna

2028
01:41:24,560 --> 01:41:26,840
Speaker 1: affect their offense? Is that gonna affect the speed of it?

2029
01:41:26,880 --> 01:41:28,679
Speaker 1: Is it gonna affect the pacing? Is it gonna throw

2030
01:41:28,720 --> 01:41:30,880
Speaker 1: them off track just a little bit? I could see

2031
01:41:30,920 --> 01:41:33,120
Speaker 1: Buffalo winning it, and we're again in a scenario where

2032
01:41:33,120 --> 01:41:35,320
Speaker 1: Buffalo has to win, like they had to win last

2033
01:41:35,360 --> 01:41:37,960
Speaker 1: week they did, They've got to win now. They're the

2034
01:41:38,280 --> 01:41:41,040
Speaker 1: where they are. It's a mess. They're the one team

2035
01:41:41,080 --> 01:41:42,960
Speaker 1: that could come out of this that nobody would want

2036
01:41:42,960 --> 01:41:45,760
Speaker 1: to actually see in the playoffs, I don't think. And

2037
01:41:45,800 --> 01:41:49,679
Speaker 1: with Josh Allen, you've always got a chance. I'm tempted

2038
01:41:49,720 --> 01:41:51,880
Speaker 1: to still go with Dallas because I'm so impressed with

2039
01:41:51,920 --> 01:41:54,479
Speaker 1: them right now and I'm trying to give them respect.

2040
01:41:54,479 --> 01:41:59,720
Speaker 1: In my own brain, I'm gonna take Dallas. I'm gonna

2041
01:41:59,760 --> 01:42:01,519
Speaker 1: give I'm gonna give it, I'm gonna do it. I'm

2042
01:42:01,520 --> 01:42:04,280
Speaker 1: gonna take Dallas on the road in a tough spot

2043
01:42:04,320 --> 01:42:06,360
Speaker 1: because I really do think they're legit.

2044
01:42:06,800 --> 01:42:09,320
Speaker 3: Very good Pat. What is our next game, sir?

2045
01:42:09,800 --> 01:42:13,760
Speaker 8: What we got boys is the Sunday night game. We

2046
01:42:13,840 --> 01:42:18,120
Speaker 8: got the Baltimore Ravens taking on the Jacksonville Jaguars. Jags

2047
01:42:18,160 --> 01:42:21,479
Speaker 8: are home for this one, and just because they're home

2048
01:42:21,520 --> 01:42:23,879
Speaker 8: does not mean they are the favorite. The Baltimore Ravens

2049
01:42:24,200 --> 01:42:27,400
Speaker 8: are favored three and a half points. Jason, what you thinking?

2050
01:42:28,240 --> 01:42:31,639
Speaker 1: I actually understand what Baltimore's favored. I believe Baltimore will

2051
01:42:31,640 --> 01:42:34,520
Speaker 1: go and beat them. It's not a great home field advantage.

2052
01:42:34,600 --> 01:42:37,719
Speaker 1: Trevor Lawrence is not one hundred percent. He's not moving

2053
01:42:37,760 --> 01:42:40,760
Speaker 1: as well right now. Ridley has been a bit of

2054
01:42:40,800 --> 01:42:43,200
Speaker 1: a disappointment, certainly an up and down year. I think

2055
01:42:43,280 --> 01:42:45,040
Speaker 1: Christian Kirk might be out of this. So you're gonna

2056
01:42:45,040 --> 01:42:46,920
Speaker 1: see a lot of Za Jones. But this is the

2057
01:42:47,040 --> 01:42:50,360
Speaker 1: Z game. You got Jay Jones and z Flowers in

2058
01:42:50,479 --> 01:42:53,599
Speaker 1: this game. I like Baltimore, I just do. I think

2059
01:42:53,640 --> 01:42:57,160
Speaker 1: the Jaguars. The Jaguars are in a little bit of

2060
01:42:57,960 --> 01:43:00,639
Speaker 1: They're kind of in a purgatory spot. They're just good

2061
01:43:00,720 --> 01:43:02,920
Speaker 1: enough to be dangerous, but they are at the same

2062
01:43:03,000 --> 01:43:07,280
Speaker 1: time just not I just don't buy them right now.

2063
01:43:08,040 --> 01:43:10,280
Speaker 2: I think that's totally fair. And I think it goes

2064
01:43:10,320 --> 01:43:12,559
Speaker 2: back to what I said to lead the show. We

2065
01:43:12,560 --> 01:43:15,720
Speaker 2: were talking about the three games this evening Indianapolis gets

2066
01:43:15,720 --> 01:43:19,799
Speaker 2: to win over Pittsburgh. I feel like, you know, everybody

2067
01:43:19,880 --> 01:43:22,840
Speaker 2: just kind of conceded the AFC South to Jacksonville.

2068
01:43:23,360 --> 01:43:25,800
Speaker 3: And this is a game that you know, this is competitive.

2069
01:43:26,040 --> 01:43:28,800
Speaker 2: The Jaguars are a half a game up right now

2070
01:43:28,840 --> 01:43:32,520
Speaker 2: on Indianapolis, who won today. And you look at Jacksonville

2071
01:43:32,520 --> 01:43:35,479
Speaker 2: and I just they haven't taken that step this year

2072
01:43:35,520 --> 01:43:37,720
Speaker 2: that I thought they wouldn't. I understand Trevor Lawrence got

2073
01:43:37,800 --> 01:43:40,000
Speaker 2: hurt on Monday Night a few weeks ago, not saying

2074
01:43:40,040 --> 01:43:42,040
Speaker 2: it all falls on him or anything like that, but

2075
01:43:42,320 --> 01:43:45,680
Speaker 2: at the same time, just kind of hasn't. Again, I

2076
01:43:46,000 --> 01:43:48,240
Speaker 2: just said, it a team that just has not taken

2077
01:43:48,320 --> 01:43:51,360
Speaker 2: the leap that I expected. One thing about Baltimore, if

2078
01:43:51,360 --> 01:43:53,800
Speaker 2: you're not used to facing them, this is obviously not

2079
01:43:53,880 --> 01:43:56,480
Speaker 2: a divisional game. So it's not that as though Jacksonville

2080
01:43:56,479 --> 01:43:59,800
Speaker 2: sees them all the time like a Pittsburgh or you know,

2081
01:44:00,520 --> 01:44:05,519
Speaker 2: Pittsburgh or Cleveland, CINCINNTI whatever. Lamar is hard to prepare for,

2082
01:44:05,720 --> 01:44:09,000
Speaker 2: as you said, not a great home field advantage, as

2083
01:44:09,040 --> 01:44:11,719
Speaker 2: you said, Trevor Lawrence is not one hundred percent.

2084
01:44:12,120 --> 01:44:14,320
Speaker 3: Go ahead, give me the Baltimore Ravens. Tell you what

2085
01:44:14,400 --> 01:44:15,400
Speaker 3: Jason will come back?

2086
01:44:16,680 --> 01:44:19,760
Speaker 2: Do you want to do a deep dive on one

2087
01:44:19,800 --> 01:44:23,120
Speaker 2: more game where there were some very interesting storylines out

2088
01:44:23,160 --> 01:44:26,320
Speaker 2: of both sides this week. We'll get to that momentarily.

2089
01:44:26,400 --> 01:44:27,840
Speaker 2: Before we do that, let's toss it over to the

2090
01:44:27,840 --> 01:44:29,960
Speaker 2: news desk Steve Sega. Final time this evening.

2091
01:44:29,960 --> 01:44:30,599
Speaker 3: What is trending?

2092
01:44:30,720 --> 01:44:33,040
Speaker 7: You mentioned the weather for the Buffalo home game against

2093
01:44:33,120 --> 01:44:36,080
Speaker 7: Dallas because it's a late afternoon game, better chance of

2094
01:44:36,200 --> 01:44:39,160
Speaker 7: rain at least fifty percent chance in addition to temperatures

2095
01:44:39,160 --> 01:44:42,120
Speaker 7: in the forties for that Dallas outdoor road game. And

2096
01:44:42,200 --> 01:44:44,519
Speaker 7: I believe it's Miami the next week. They're playing the

2097
01:44:44,560 --> 01:44:47,920
Speaker 7: Bills and Dolphins Division this year on the schedule indoors

2098
01:44:47,960 --> 01:44:51,040
Speaker 7: in Detroit. The Lions scored touchdowns against Denver on five

2099
01:44:51,080 --> 01:44:53,960
Speaker 7: straight drives mid game forty two to seventeen to the

2100
01:44:53,960 --> 01:44:58,200
Speaker 7: final Jeredga five touchdown passes, Jamyor Gibbs one hundred yards

2101
01:44:58,280 --> 01:45:01,480
Speaker 7: rushing and two total tds. The Colds beat the Steelers

2102
01:45:01,520 --> 01:45:05,040
Speaker 7: thirty to thirteen. Pittsburgh has lost four of its last

2103
01:45:05,080 --> 01:45:08,840
Speaker 7: five games. Bengals in overtime down the Vikings twenty seven

2104
01:45:08,960 --> 01:45:12,360
Speaker 7: twenty four T Higgins with the tying touchdown reception last

2105
01:45:12,400 --> 01:45:15,960
Speaker 7: minute of regulation. The Texans will start quarterback Case Keenum

2106
01:45:16,000 --> 01:45:18,640
Speaker 7: tomorrow at Tennessee. C. J. Stroud is out still in

2107
01:45:18,720 --> 01:45:23,080
Speaker 7: concussion protocol. Houston wide receiver Nico Collins likely to play

2108
01:45:23,080 --> 01:45:26,320
Speaker 7: a likely out, although he was listed as questionable. Likely

2109
01:45:26,320 --> 01:45:29,640
Speaker 7: to play though at wide receivers Noah Brown. College football's

2110
01:45:29,680 --> 01:45:32,320
Speaker 7: late game, the Independence Bowl went to Texas Tech over

2111
01:45:32,400 --> 01:45:35,639
Speaker 7: Cal thirty four to fourteen. UCLA was in the La

2112
01:45:35,680 --> 01:45:38,400
Speaker 7: Bowl in the Rams Stadium, trailing Boise State at the

2113
01:45:38,439 --> 01:45:41,840
Speaker 7: half sixteen to seven. Bruins won at thirty five twenty two.

2114
01:45:42,160 --> 01:45:46,200
Speaker 7: Fresno State took New Mexico State in Albuquerque, thirty seven

2115
01:45:46,280 --> 01:45:50,160
Speaker 7: to ten, quarterback Mikey Keane four total touchdowns. Bowl wins

2116
01:45:50,160 --> 01:45:54,360
Speaker 7: for Appalachian State, Ohio U and Jacksonville State in overtime

2117
01:45:54,439 --> 01:45:57,920
Speaker 7: next Saturday. Seven bowl games the national semifinals are on

2118
01:45:58,000 --> 01:46:01,000
Speaker 7: New Year's then the National title game in college football

2119
01:46:01,080 --> 01:46:04,799
Speaker 7: a week later, January eighth in Houston in the NHL

2120
01:46:04,920 --> 01:46:07,519
Speaker 7: overtime win for the Rangers at Boston two to one

2121
01:46:07,840 --> 01:46:11,800
Speaker 7: shootout win from Minnesota to one over Vancouver, Toronto seven

2122
01:46:11,800 --> 01:46:15,720
Speaker 7: to nothing over Pittsburgh. Upset in college basketball well in

2123
01:46:15,760 --> 01:46:18,400
Speaker 7: fact a couple to note but one. In Detroit, Michigan

2124
01:46:18,439 --> 01:46:21,800
Speaker 7: State beat number six Baylor eighty eight to sixty four.

2125
01:46:22,200 --> 01:46:25,000
Speaker 7: In Indianapolis, Number three per due over number one ranked

2126
01:46:25,000 --> 01:46:28,640
Speaker 7: Arizona ninety two to eighty four. Victories for Kansas and

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Speaker 7: Houston in the top ten. Kentucky beat North Carolina, Tennessee

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Speaker 7: won the late game over NC State seventy nine seventy.

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Speaker 7: In San Antonio, Memphis beat number thirteen Clemsons seventy nine

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Speaker 7: seventy seven. As for the NBA late game, the Clippers

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Speaker 7: won their seventh in a row, beat the New York

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Speaker 7: Knicks one forty four to one twenty two. Kawhi Leonard

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Speaker 7: thirty six points. At Sacramento, Keegan Murray had forty seven

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Speaker 7: points as Daron Fox was out with a shoulder injury.

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Speaker 7: Kings defeated Utah one twenty five one to oh four.

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Speaker 7: Keegan Murray from three point range was twelve four fifteen.

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Speaker 7: Dallas won at Portland. Blazers have lost six straight. Luca

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Speaker 7: Dons at a triple double, including forty points Oklahoma City

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Speaker 7: wins by one at Denver on a last second game

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Speaker 7: winner from Shay Gilgis. Alexander Miami ed Chicago, Jimmy Butler

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Speaker 7: the game winner at the Buzzer. Minnesota and Golden State

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Speaker 7: with wins, Cleveland and Philadelphia with victories. Philly's won six

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Speaker 7: in a row. It won its game at Charlotte one

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Speaker 7: thirty five to eighty two, a fifty three point victory.

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Speaker 7: One reporter said that's the most lopsided road win all time.

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01:47:32,720 --> 01:47:36,240
Speaker 7: Joel embiid forty two points and yes, Detroit lost again

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Speaker 7: at Milwaukee, won forty six one fourteen the final. In fact,

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Speaker 7: late first quarter, the Bucks were up forty three to nineteen.

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Speaker 7: The NBA record is twenty six straight losses in a season.

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Speaker 7: Detroit has lost twenty three in a row. They lost

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Speaker 7: last night by thirty two at Philadelphia. They lost tonight

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Speaker 7: by thirty two at Milwaukee. Detroit's record so far this

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Speaker 7: NBA season two and twenty four.

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Speaker 2: Back to you, Thank you very much, Steve Seger, Fox

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Speaker 2: Sports Radio, Fox Sports Saturday Er Tours, Jaysmartin broadcasting live

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Speaker 2: from the Tireck dot Com studios.

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Speaker 3: Let's keep going. Want to do a deep dive on

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Speaker 3: this next one, pat what do we got? All right?

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Speaker 3: The big one?

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Speaker 8: We got the Kansas City Chiefs taking on the New

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Speaker 8: England Patriots.

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Speaker 3: Patriots are home by the way erin and like.

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Speaker 8: I said last time, just because you're the home team

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Speaker 8: does not mean you are the favorite. The Kansas City

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Speaker 8: Chiefs on the road are favored by a line of

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Speaker 8: eight and a half points.

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Speaker 3: Aaron, what do you have to say on that?

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Speaker 8: Well?

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Speaker 2: I got a lot of things to say. First of all,

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Speaker 2: I read this. I didn't even realize this is the.

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Speaker 3: First ever Monday night game that got flexed out.

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01:48:43,880 --> 01:48:45,519
Speaker 2: This was supposed to be a Monday Night gave And

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01:48:45,760 --> 01:48:48,639
Speaker 2: apparently somebody saw the Patriots get a record about three

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Speaker 2: or four weeks ago and said, you know what, let's

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Speaker 2: do something else. But I want to ask you, Jason,

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Speaker 2: really quick, what did you make of the Mahomes andy

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Speaker 2: Reid commentary? I mean, obviously looked it's what did you

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Speaker 2: think of the Cadarius Tony situation? But then what did

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Speaker 2: you think of the reaction by Patrick Mahomes and Andy

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Speaker 2: Reid who were clearly not happy with the referee.

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Speaker 1: Tony made a bone? Or yeah, Tony made a boneheaded

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Speaker 1: move and in terms of where he lined up and

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Speaker 1: it cost him a gigantic play and it wasn't a play,

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Speaker 1: or it wasn't something where where he was actually affected

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Speaker 1: the play. In terms of Mahomes and Andy Reid, it's

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01:49:28,160 --> 01:49:32,360
Speaker 1: just a bad look. They got fined. I think Mahomes

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01:49:32,360 --> 01:49:35,600
Speaker 1: realized it pretty quickly and apologized and said, yeah, I

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Speaker 1: was a little bit out of line. He was like

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Speaker 1: they were mad. They were upset about that because they

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Speaker 1: had something that looked really spectacular that got taken away.

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Speaker 1: When you go back and you watch it, though do

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Speaker 1: was completely and totally lined up improperly. Referees hadn't done

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Speaker 1: anything egregious there. I think the mistake that and the

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Speaker 1: part of this that felt really kind of too much

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Speaker 1: was when they were saying, you know, you don't make

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Speaker 1: that call in that moment. Kind of that was sort

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Speaker 1: of the argument. It's just that's not why you why

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Speaker 1: you're there official to make that kind of call in

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Speaker 1: that moment. That's a bad that's a bad, bad, bad take.

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Speaker 1: I think they realized they stepped in it, but it

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Speaker 1: did kind of come across as we're speaking from the

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Speaker 1: penthouse and you don't do this to us.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, no, I see, I agree one hundred percent.

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Speaker 2: And that was my takeaway was I you know, I

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01:50:24,120 --> 01:50:27,080
Speaker 2: tweeted something and you know, of course Casey fans weren't happy.

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01:50:27,080 --> 01:50:29,680
Speaker 2: I basically said, you know, first sign of real adversity,

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Speaker 2: and Patrick Mahomes melts down, Oh well, we he came

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Speaker 2: back from double digits in the super Bowl, and I'm like,

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Speaker 2: I don't think that's adversity, like being in the Super Bowl.

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Speaker 3: I don't know.

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Speaker 2: It was just like I was like justin Herbert dealing

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Speaker 2: with Brad and Staley and Anthony England, that's adversity. Trevor

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01:50:44,840 --> 01:50:47,519
Speaker 2: Lawrence with herband Meyer, that's adversity. So I just bring

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Speaker 2: it up to say I thought it was a terrible look.

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01:50:50,840 --> 01:50:53,600
Speaker 2: I thought, you know, especially the podium, like you know,

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Speaker 2: Mahomes wants to be mad at the refs in the moment,

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Speaker 2: I actually don't really care that much. Like we've seen

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Speaker 2: Tom Brady.

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Speaker 1: Yell at reast Brady he's the king of it.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but to.

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Speaker 2: Go to the podium, I mean, it wasn't all time

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Speaker 2: spin zone of like well, I mean, you know, I mean,

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Speaker 2: the yeah, it was the right call, but the fans

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Speaker 2: don't come here to watch the refs. It's like, but

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Speaker 2: you just said it's the right call, so uh so, yeah, anyway,

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Speaker 2: I was curious for your perspective on that. I don't

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Speaker 2: want to hear the well, there was this many times

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Speaker 2: it could have been called but it wasn't, and da

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Speaker 2: da da. It's like it was a penalty. It sucks

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Speaker 2: that it happened at that time. It was the right

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Speaker 2: call whatever. As far as Casey, just just what do

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Speaker 2: you think of them? Big picture? By the way, we're

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01:51:34,760 --> 01:51:36,680
Speaker 2: not you know, we have made the pick yet I

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01:51:36,720 --> 01:51:40,280
Speaker 2: think we have to not really can't say he's gonna win,

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Speaker 2: But like so, I guess my question is like, what

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01:51:42,840 --> 01:51:45,320
Speaker 2: do you think of them big picture? Because you know,

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Speaker 2: I think there's been even what was it two years

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Speaker 2: ago when they weren't playing great down the stretch, but

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Speaker 2: but you know, everything kind of you know whatever. The

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Speaker 2: point I'm trying to make is, I don't think this

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Speaker 2: is something that gets turned around this year. Maybe the

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01:51:59,760 --> 01:52:02,400
Speaker 2: AE is so wide open with all these injuries and

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01:52:02,439 --> 01:52:05,240
Speaker 2: everything that you know, they make another run, But I

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01:52:05,360 --> 01:52:07,840
Speaker 2: just don't think it's their year. I think it's now

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Speaker 2: the middle of December. They're making you know Week one,

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Speaker 2: Week two mistakes. I don't think this gets figured out.

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01:52:12,720 --> 01:52:13,320
Speaker 2: But what about you?

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Speaker 1: I mean I think it still can because of the

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Speaker 1: point you made. If not them, then who exactly do

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Speaker 1: you believe in right now? In the AFC? Like fully,

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Speaker 1: I know that team's going to the super Bowl, don't

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01:52:25,120 --> 01:52:27,719
Speaker 1: I don't necessarily have a feeling that way. If it's Baltimore,

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01:52:27,720 --> 01:52:30,559
Speaker 1: I wouldn't be shocked. But they've got a lot to

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01:52:30,600 --> 01:52:33,000
Speaker 1: prove too. I mean, Lamar in the playoffs, we haven't

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Speaker 1: seen that work so far. Maybe it works this year,

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01:52:35,600 --> 01:52:38,200
Speaker 1: but who else? Like we already kind of poured dirt

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Speaker 1: a little bit on Jacksonville. Buffalo has been up and

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Speaker 1: down this year. You got quarterback injuries in a lot

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01:52:43,720 --> 01:52:46,040
Speaker 1: of the other places where teams are gonna come from,

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Speaker 1: Kansas City is still the surest bet. There's still the

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Speaker 1: easiest one to look at and say, oh, it's still

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Speaker 1: gonna be okay. They're still gonna be fine. They've got

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Speaker 1: Patrick Mahomes, They've got Travis Kelce, you know, all of

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Speaker 1: us still there, and their defense is still playing relatively well.

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Speaker 1: Spick Nol's having another good year coordinator. So I still think, yes,

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Speaker 1: you can turn it around in terms of them ending

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Speaker 1: up winning a Super Bowl. It's not their greatest year.

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01:53:11,120 --> 01:53:13,360
Speaker 1: It's not. Of course, they could show up at sixty

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Speaker 1: percent and beat New England, which is what they'll do today.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and I think the last thought it is still

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01:53:19,320 --> 01:53:22,160
Speaker 2: kind of an amazing stat that Patrick Mahomes could be

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01:53:22,200 --> 01:53:26,760
Speaker 2: looking at his first ever road playoff game. Of course,

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Speaker 2: they're very likely to win the division, but then, of

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01:53:29,200 --> 01:53:31,960
Speaker 2: course if they were to win in round one, they

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01:53:32,000 --> 01:53:33,920
Speaker 2: could have to go on the road from there. Fox

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Speaker 2: Sports Radio Aeron Torres, Jason Martin. We are broadcasting live

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01:53:37,479 --> 01:53:41,040
Speaker 2: from the tyreck dot Com studios. We'll come back finished

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01:53:41,080 --> 01:53:44,040
Speaker 2: looking at the rest of the week fifteen slate and

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Speaker 2: we'll get out of here. One segment left Bernie Fret

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Speaker 2: at the top of the hour. This is Fox Sports Radio.

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Speaker 6: First down in ten for the Boise State forty Garber's

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Speaker 6: gonna air down down the right sideline cut, say Michaels,

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Speaker 6: the man in the end zone, touchdown to UCLA for

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01:54:04,520 --> 01:54:08,519
Speaker 6: forty yard dart of a throw from Ethan Garber's and

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Speaker 6: UCLA pouring it on Poise State in the second half,

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Speaker 6: and that's gonna do it. Ucla ends the bull drought

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Speaker 6: their first Bull victory since January of twenty fifteen. They

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Speaker 6: put together a huge second half and they're able to

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Speaker 6: storm back and defeat the Mountain West champion Boise State

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Speaker 6: Broncos thirty five to twenty two.

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Speaker 2: That was our buddy Nick Cope from Fox Sports Radio.

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01:54:39,680 --> 01:54:43,520
Speaker 2: He does updates with us and he also calls UCLA games.

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01:54:44,360 --> 01:54:48,960
Speaker 2: That was Nick on Learfield as UCLA wins the label.

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Speaker 2: at and more. Lorena all in her feelings with this song.

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01:55:04,080 --> 01:55:07,680
Speaker 2: My goodness, very serious.

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01:55:07,680 --> 01:55:11,040
Speaker 1: I getting that one wrong. Lorrain is killing it like that.

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01:55:11,760 --> 01:55:13,480
Speaker 1: Sh you're wrong with Dan Crosby.

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01:55:14,040 --> 01:55:17,400
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, no, Christmas Spirit. I Lorena got us into

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01:55:17,440 --> 01:55:19,640
Speaker 2: Christmas Spirit. I think it was still November. She was like,

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01:55:20,080 --> 01:55:22,520
Speaker 2: you want Mariah. I'm like, yeah, of course I want Mariah.

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01:55:22,520 --> 01:55:23,760
Speaker 2: How could I say no to Mariah?

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01:55:23,840 --> 01:55:26,800
Speaker 1: Yeah? You can really easily say it.

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Speaker 3: All I want for Christmas is you.

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Speaker 1: You can also, at the same time say no to

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Speaker 1: Paul McCartney because it's terrible love Paul McCartney. But nope, nope,

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01:55:35,720 --> 01:55:40,120
Speaker 1: there'll be no Wonderful Christmas Time. I will actually just

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01:55:40,200 --> 01:55:45,400
Speaker 1: I will disconnect, Oh, Nashville. If someone wants me going,

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01:55:45,760 --> 01:55:49,080
Speaker 1: yeah yeah, if they start playing Paul McCartney's Wonderful Christmas Time,

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Speaker 1: I gotta go.

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Speaker 3: Now you'll know how I really feel about you. Next week.

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Speaker 3: That's coming out of the first commercial break.

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01:55:53,560 --> 01:55:56,240
Speaker 2: Now I'm kidding, but uh yeah, we'll by the way,

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01:55:56,240 --> 01:56:00,000
Speaker 2: we're about uh what it is now? What nine days

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01:56:00,120 --> 01:56:04,280
Speaker 2: till Christmas? Eight days till Christmas? Depending on where you're at.

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01:56:05,720 --> 01:56:08,120
Speaker 2: We're on the twenty third next week. You got any

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01:56:08,120 --> 01:56:09,920
Speaker 2: big plans for the holiday, Jason.

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Speaker 1: No, I mean it's the family, and this is the

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Speaker 1: first year where my daughter is going to really appreciate it.

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01:56:15,160 --> 01:56:19,000
Speaker 1: She's already she's seen Santa a few times. Second time,

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01:56:19,080 --> 01:56:22,960
Speaker 1: she wasn't as terrified as the first. She told Santa

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Speaker 1: what she wanted, and so Santa has to get that

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Speaker 1: taken care of. At this point, even though I felt

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Speaker 1: like Santa already had a pretty good handle on things,

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01:56:31,480 --> 01:56:35,080
Speaker 1: the conversations that I have with him, I thought everything

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01:56:35,160 --> 01:56:38,000
Speaker 1: was good to go. Like back in July, or August.

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Speaker 1: We kind of had a good sense of where Santa

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Speaker 1: was and felt like it was right simpatico with where

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01:56:43,880 --> 01:56:47,880
Speaker 1: Clara Grace was. Turns out, while that is true, it

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01:56:47,960 --> 01:56:53,120
Speaker 1: was incomplete because we missed the one thing. Apparently Santa

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Speaker 1: didn't understand the one thing she wanted until she told

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Speaker 1: him directly. And now we're responsible for ensuring that Santa

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Speaker 1: can has the time to take care of that.

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Speaker 3: All right, very good.

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01:57:03,520 --> 01:57:05,280
Speaker 2: By the way, one story we didn't get to, well,

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01:57:05,280 --> 01:57:07,760
Speaker 2: we didn't get to Otani, but we'll land out a

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01:57:07,760 --> 01:57:10,520
Speaker 2: little bit of a lighter note. Uh did you see

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01:57:10,560 --> 01:57:14,280
Speaker 2: the Yannis Oscar Shebway basketball story this week?

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01:57:15,720 --> 01:57:18,240
Speaker 1: What a story that was pretty hilarious. I mean that

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01:57:18,280 --> 01:57:20,440
Speaker 1: was just that was just funny to me like that one.

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01:57:20,560 --> 01:57:22,760
Speaker 1: You're right, lightheart is a way to describe it. The

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01:57:22,840 --> 01:57:28,880
Speaker 1: Draymond stuff not particularly funny, not particularly worth much time

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01:57:29,320 --> 01:57:32,160
Speaker 1: at this stage, I think, because it's not very surprising.

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01:57:32,280 --> 01:57:34,240
Speaker 1: Do you see the reaction to it from the sidelines,

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01:57:34,280 --> 01:57:36,760
Speaker 1: By the way, there wasn't one, because it's just, oh yeah,

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01:57:36,760 --> 01:57:37,760
Speaker 1: it's just what happens.

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01:57:38,000 --> 01:57:40,000
Speaker 3: Well, Steve Kerr just hopes that he gets the help

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01:57:40,040 --> 01:57:40,800
Speaker 3: that he needs.

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01:57:40,920 --> 01:57:43,480
Speaker 1: Right, Yeah, Yeah, You've had plenty of time to get

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01:57:43,520 --> 01:57:44,000
Speaker 1: him that help.

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01:57:44,280 --> 01:57:46,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, maybe he should have helped me, believe that's the

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01:57:46,400 --> 01:57:48,000
Speaker 2: twenty sixteen when he cost you championship.

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01:57:48,000 --> 01:57:48,480
Speaker 3: But anytway neither.

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01:57:48,520 --> 01:57:52,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, but jannest had what sixty two? Sixty four? I went,

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01:57:53,120 --> 01:57:56,000
Speaker 1: I went below it and then above it, and then

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01:57:56,000 --> 01:57:57,840
Speaker 1: you had Oh but this guy played this first game

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01:57:57,920 --> 01:57:59,400
Speaker 1: or had his first basket we had to make. I

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01:57:59,400 --> 01:58:01,280
Speaker 1: didn't buy that first of all. But I just, I

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01:58:01,400 --> 01:58:05,560
Speaker 1: just I like the fact that that Jannis didn't care

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01:58:05,720 --> 01:58:09,560
Speaker 1: for not getting that ball. And he's he's always so

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01:58:09,720 --> 01:58:12,120
Speaker 1: gentleminely a lot of times when he when he talks

2364
01:58:12,160 --> 01:58:14,920
Speaker 1: and funny and engaging and all, and in this moment,

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01:58:15,040 --> 01:58:17,160
Speaker 1: he just he had just had enough and he's reached

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01:58:17,160 --> 01:58:18,840
Speaker 1: that level of stardom where he can do this.

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01:58:19,800 --> 01:58:22,400
Speaker 3: Yeah. By the way, you were right, it was sixty four.

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01:58:24,160 --> 01:58:28,320
Speaker 2: An Oscar shibh I got the ball, So yeah, I mean, listen,

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01:58:28,640 --> 01:58:30,959
Speaker 2: I thought it was a pretty funny story all things considered.

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01:58:31,040 --> 01:58:33,440
Speaker 3: You know, my only real takeaway.

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01:58:33,120 --> 01:58:36,400
Speaker 1: Is Joanna should have signed the ball and given it

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01:58:36,400 --> 01:58:39,080
Speaker 1: back to him. It's just like sign Giannis. And to say,

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01:58:39,080 --> 01:58:40,640
Speaker 1: by the way, I had sixty four bro.

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01:58:41,080 --> 01:58:44,480
Speaker 3: Yes, I'm trying to see here. Let's see. Uh uh,

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01:58:44,600 --> 01:58:45,200
Speaker 3: let's see.

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01:58:46,480 --> 01:58:49,280
Speaker 2: Rick Carlisle said, it was Oscar Sheba his first official

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01:58:49,400 --> 01:58:53,120
Speaker 2: NBA point. We were not thinking about Gianni's franchise sixty

2378
01:58:53,160 --> 01:58:55,160
Speaker 2: four point record. By the way, the funny part about

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01:58:55,200 --> 01:58:57,200
Speaker 2: that was Jason is, I don't know if you saw

2380
01:58:57,200 --> 01:58:59,280
Speaker 2: this little caveat And we talked about this last week

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01:58:59,360 --> 01:59:05,200
Speaker 2: on air. But Shebey actually scored in the play in final,

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01:59:06,080 --> 01:59:09,600
Speaker 2: which was the only playing game that doesn't count towards

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01:59:09,680 --> 01:59:13,080
Speaker 2: stats in the record book, So it wasn't his first

2384
01:59:13,200 --> 01:59:16,440
Speaker 2: NBA points, but it was his first NBA points. And

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01:59:16,600 --> 01:59:19,440
Speaker 2: so Rick Carlisle says, oh, you know, we gotta celebrate

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01:59:19,680 --> 01:59:23,800
Speaker 2: Oscar Shebwey and Iannest. So let's see what he said here.

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01:59:23,840 --> 01:59:27,640
Speaker 2: He said, uh, bad radio, bad radio. I lost the quote.

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01:59:28,000 --> 01:59:29,800
Speaker 2: I have a ball, but I don't know if it's

2389
01:59:29,840 --> 01:59:32,160
Speaker 2: the game ball. It doesn't feel like the game ball

2390
01:59:32,200 --> 01:59:33,920
Speaker 2: to me. It feels like a brand new ball. I

2391
01:59:33,920 --> 01:59:36,360
Speaker 2: can tell I played thirty five minutes today. I know

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01:59:36,400 --> 01:59:38,480
Speaker 2: how the game ball felt. The ball I have, which

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01:59:38,480 --> 01:59:40,560
Speaker 2: I'll take and I'll take give it to my mom

2394
01:59:40,640 --> 01:59:43,480
Speaker 2: for sure, but I don't know if it's actually the

2395
01:59:43,520 --> 01:59:44,040
Speaker 2: game ball.

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01:59:44,880 --> 01:59:48,480
Speaker 1: So that's that's what is funny. It's it's it's kind

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01:59:48,480 --> 01:59:52,080
Speaker 1: of it's amusing to me. Yeah, he'll probably have a

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01:59:52,080 --> 01:59:53,040
Speaker 1: game where he has more than that.

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01:59:53,080 --> 01:59:55,400
Speaker 2: By the way, they may six. I mean, sixty four

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01:59:55,440 --> 01:59:56,720
Speaker 2: is a lot of points. It is a guy that

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01:59:56,720 --> 01:59:59,760
Speaker 2: doesn't really shoot threes the way, you know. I mean

2402
01:59:59,800 --> 02:00:02,200
Speaker 2: like when Dame had like seventy I think it was

2403
02:00:02,280 --> 02:00:03,600
Speaker 2: last year. I mean it's like, yeah, I mean I

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02:00:03,640 --> 02:00:06,480
Speaker 2: could see that if he gets hot. So yeah, anything

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02:00:06,520 --> 02:00:08,600
Speaker 2: else in the NFL you're looking forward to this weekend?

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02:00:09,400 --> 02:00:12,400
Speaker 1: I mean I enjoy every NFL weekend. I just can

2407
02:00:12,440 --> 02:00:16,240
Speaker 1: we get through without injuries? That's really at this stage.

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02:00:16,280 --> 02:00:18,800
Speaker 1: I mean, there's a lot of these games where on paper,

2409
02:00:18,840 --> 02:00:21,400
Speaker 1: these would have been great matchups that they're not. I

2410
02:00:21,440 --> 02:00:23,640
Speaker 1: am curious to see if the Niners are just gonna

2411
02:00:23,720 --> 02:00:27,240
Speaker 1: open one up on Arizona or not. That's a twelve

2412
02:00:27,320 --> 02:00:31,400
Speaker 1: point spread on the road for the forty nine Ers

2413
02:00:31,440 --> 02:00:35,400
Speaker 1: against Arizona. That one does have me intrigued. And hey, Loo,

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02:00:35,400 --> 02:00:39,240
Speaker 1: we don't talk about the Monday night game Eagles Seahawks, Eagles.

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02:00:39,240 --> 02:00:41,320
Speaker 1: We need to see something here. We need to see

2416
02:00:41,320 --> 02:00:44,000
Speaker 1: something from their offense. A little bit more consistent the

2417
02:00:44,040 --> 02:00:46,440
Speaker 1: Seahawks are. You know, they're they're turning water, but they're

2418
02:00:46,480 --> 02:00:49,800
Speaker 1: starting to sink at this stage. And you know, the

2419
02:00:49,840 --> 02:00:54,320
Speaker 1: injuries and just kind of being incomplete in spots, but

2420
02:00:54,800 --> 02:00:58,800
Speaker 1: Philadelphia kind of needs something to push them back in

2421
02:00:58,840 --> 02:01:03,120
Speaker 1: the right direction. Well, so this this is an opportunity

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02:01:03,120 --> 02:01:06,040
Speaker 1: for them to do this in a very hostile environment.

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02:01:06,160 --> 02:01:07,040
Speaker 3: Well, and I think too.

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02:01:07,120 --> 02:01:09,040
Speaker 2: The other thing is we talked about how tough it

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02:01:09,080 --> 02:01:10,839
Speaker 2: is for Dallas to turn around and go to Buffalo.

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02:01:10,960 --> 02:01:11,880
Speaker 3: I mean, imagine Philly.

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02:01:11,920 --> 02:01:14,879
Speaker 2: You probably get back, you know, probably after you know midnight,

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02:01:14,920 --> 02:01:18,560
Speaker 2: one am, two am Eastern on Monday night now, or

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02:01:18,600 --> 02:01:20,840
Speaker 2: you know, Sunday and a Monday now you gotta fly

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02:01:20,960 --> 02:01:24,000
Speaker 2: out to to Seattle. I mean, I know you get

2431
02:01:24,000 --> 02:01:27,160
Speaker 2: the extra day, but that's tough. By the way, Rams

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02:01:27,360 --> 02:01:30,520
Speaker 2: Rams against Washington. The only reason I bring it up, Jason,

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02:01:30,560 --> 02:01:33,480
Speaker 2: fun fact about your boy Torres Rams play Thursday night

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02:01:33,560 --> 02:01:34,440
Speaker 2: against New Orleans.

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02:01:35,040 --> 02:01:36,680
Speaker 3: Your boy Torris just bought two tickets.

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02:01:36,760 --> 02:01:39,440
Speaker 1: I was like, all right, I don't see Pooka Nikua.

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02:01:39,440 --> 02:01:41,240
Speaker 2: I don't really care what I'm gonna see. I'm gonna

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02:01:41,280 --> 02:01:43,960
Speaker 2: see the Budweiser salesman That's what I'm going to see.

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02:01:43,960 --> 02:01:47,760
Speaker 1: By the way, how did how'd you feel about the

2440
02:01:47,880 --> 02:01:49,360
Speaker 1: doubleheader on Monday Night?

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02:01:50,240 --> 02:01:50,760
Speaker 3: I love it.

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02:01:50,800 --> 02:01:55,640
Speaker 2: I've been a two game on Monday advocate forever. I'd

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02:01:55,680 --> 02:01:58,360
Speaker 2: much rather have that than thirty seven games in the

2444
02:01:58,440 --> 02:01:59,920
Speaker 2: one pm window most weeks.

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02:02:00,120 --> 02:02:01,920
Speaker 3: I liked it, but you know what, Jason, we gotta go.

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02:02:01,920 --> 02:02:04,480
Speaker 2: I want to thank through Lorraine on the Boards, producer

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02:02:04,560 --> 02:02:07,680
Speaker 2: Pat for Steve Disager, and my partner Jason Martin.

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02:02:07,760 --> 02:02:08,840
Speaker 3: I am Aaron Torres.

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02:02:09,320 --> 02:02:11,760
Speaker 2: Coming up at the top of the hour Bernie Fratdo

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02:02:11,920 --> 02:02:14,120
Speaker 2: of The Bernie Fratto Show. He is taking up till

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02:02:14,160 --> 02:02:16,720
Speaker 2: six am Eastern. Plenty more on a busy week in

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02:02:16,760 --> 02:02:20,560
Speaker 2: the NFL. Make sure to download the podcast for Jason Martin.

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Speaker 2: I'm Aaron Torres. This is Fox Sports Adio.