1 00:00:00,680 --> 00:00:03,440 Speaker 1: Ron Andanian, a service advisor from Honda, said it's okay 2 00:00:03,480 --> 00:00:05,840 Speaker 1: to drive the car with its slipping transmission. Yea, yeah, 3 00:00:05,840 --> 00:00:07,240 Speaker 1: as long as you don't know. All I do is 4 00:00:07,240 --> 00:00:09,720 Speaker 1: I Actually it's like a manual transmission and I let 5 00:00:09,720 --> 00:00:13,240 Speaker 1: off on it, it'll shift without slipping. The Car Doctor 6 00:00:13,440 --> 00:00:15,520 Speaker 1: first of all, the cars on safe to draw it 7 00:00:15,720 --> 00:00:19,040 Speaker 1: just from your description. If it's losing the shift point 8 00:00:19,079 --> 00:00:21,360 Speaker 1: between second and third that the engine speed flares to 9 00:00:21,440 --> 00:00:24,240 Speaker 1: a thousand rpm, it's a free ref to a grand 10 00:00:24,239 --> 00:00:26,239 Speaker 1: and then drop it back into gear. It's gonna shock 11 00:00:26,320 --> 00:00:29,440 Speaker 1: things apart over time. Welcome to the radio home of 12 00:00:29,600 --> 00:00:33,880 Speaker 1: Ron and Nanian, the Car Doctor, since this is where 13 00:00:33,920 --> 00:00:37,800 Speaker 1: car owners the world overturned to for their definitive opinion 14 00:00:37,880 --> 00:00:41,760 Speaker 1: on automotive repair. If your mechanics giving you a busy signal, 15 00:00:41,960 --> 00:00:44,839 Speaker 1: pick up the phone and call in the garage to 16 00:00:44,920 --> 00:00:47,080 Speaker 1: orders are open, but I am here to take your 17 00:00:47,080 --> 00:00:54,840 Speaker 1: call at eight five five five six and now he running. Hey, 18 00:00:54,880 --> 00:00:57,240 Speaker 1: it's time to start your engines. Allow and welcome monetating 19 00:00:57,280 --> 00:00:59,040 Speaker 1: the Car Doctor here at eight five five five six 20 00:00:59,080 --> 00:01:01,640 Speaker 1: zero nine zero. By the way, I should point out 21 00:01:01,640 --> 00:01:04,479 Speaker 1: more information about this radio show Car Doctor Show Dot 22 00:01:04,520 --> 00:01:07,920 Speaker 1: com also places and ways to podcast, visa visa and 23 00:01:08,080 --> 00:01:11,320 Speaker 1: various methods um spreaker and I heart among them. So 24 00:01:11,520 --> 00:01:13,000 Speaker 1: get out the Car Doctor Show dot com and you 25 00:01:13,000 --> 00:01:15,360 Speaker 1: will find it there. Um hello, Mr Ray, how are 26 00:01:15,360 --> 00:01:18,000 Speaker 1: you today? Doing well? I assume I see no. Mr 27 00:01:18,040 --> 00:01:21,600 Speaker 1: Atwood doing very well and working my little uh my 28 00:01:21,680 --> 00:01:23,400 Speaker 1: little tail walk. Yeah, you're busy on that side of 29 00:01:23,400 --> 00:01:26,240 Speaker 1: the glass this week. I noticed that, um with with 30 00:01:26,319 --> 00:01:28,720 Speaker 1: Tony out of the way or Tony among the missing? Well, 31 00:01:28,720 --> 00:01:30,720 Speaker 1: Tony among the missing. You brought your laundry ins on 32 00:01:30,760 --> 00:01:32,679 Speaker 1: trying to get your laundry done, you know, so you 33 00:01:32,680 --> 00:01:34,720 Speaker 1: know you treat me nice when you leave, and it's nice. 34 00:01:34,760 --> 00:01:36,360 Speaker 1: Just hurry up and get everything done. We want to 35 00:01:36,360 --> 00:01:38,640 Speaker 1: go home later, so you know, let's make sure we 36 00:01:38,640 --> 00:01:41,080 Speaker 1: get everything done. So speaking getting things done, let's kick 37 00:01:41,080 --> 00:01:42,920 Speaker 1: the garage doors open. Let's go talk to Don and 38 00:01:43,000 --> 00:01:45,960 Speaker 1: Dayton Ohio, oh six Malibu and a battery drained Don, 39 00:01:46,000 --> 00:01:47,720 Speaker 1: Welcome to the Car Doctor, sir. How can I help? 40 00:01:48,520 --> 00:01:51,840 Speaker 1: Thank you? UM, I've got a two thousand six malibut 41 00:01:52,320 --> 00:01:56,760 Speaker 1: undred V six LX. It's um got two hundred fifty 42 00:01:56,760 --> 00:01:59,480 Speaker 1: four thousand miles. It's been a great car just broking 43 00:01:59,520 --> 00:02:06,800 Speaker 1: in maybe two exactly, and I love it. Um. It's UM. 44 00:02:06,800 --> 00:02:10,040 Speaker 1: When I shut the car off, if I'm not out 45 00:02:10,040 --> 00:02:13,520 Speaker 1: within ten hours to restart the car, the battery is 46 00:02:13,600 --> 00:02:17,960 Speaker 1: dead to the world. I've checked everything that could possibly 47 00:02:18,000 --> 00:02:21,560 Speaker 1: cause a battery drain and I can't find it. All Right, 48 00:02:21,560 --> 00:02:23,480 Speaker 1: what have you done? And when you say you've checked everything, 49 00:02:23,480 --> 00:02:27,600 Speaker 1: how are you checking? Well? I I checked, UM, you know, 50 00:02:27,680 --> 00:02:30,320 Speaker 1: to make sure that the glove box was shut, there 51 00:02:30,400 --> 00:02:34,160 Speaker 1: was nothing plugged in anywhere, that the trunk light is 52 00:02:34,240 --> 00:02:37,680 Speaker 1: coming off as you know you shut the door. UM. 53 00:02:37,720 --> 00:02:40,560 Speaker 1: That's pretty much it, other than I did have someone 54 00:02:40,960 --> 00:02:44,040 Speaker 1: do a code read on it and nothing comes up 55 00:02:44,080 --> 00:02:49,240 Speaker 1: on that. UM. About a year ago, I had an 56 00:02:49,280 --> 00:02:53,440 Speaker 1: alternator and a new battery I installed and put in 57 00:02:54,080 --> 00:02:58,320 Speaker 1: and UM. Then I've upgraded to a key fob that 58 00:02:58,400 --> 00:03:02,000 Speaker 1: I bought from O'Reilly's. UM. And that's all I've done 59 00:03:02,000 --> 00:03:05,360 Speaker 1: to the car. Wait, I'm reaching from my notes. I 60 00:03:05,400 --> 00:03:07,000 Speaker 1: have to write myself a note. You gave me a 61 00:03:07,000 --> 00:03:09,760 Speaker 1: great idea for a YouTube video. We're gonna do it 62 00:03:09,800 --> 00:03:11,639 Speaker 1: this year. We're gonna do a battery draw a test 63 00:03:11,680 --> 00:03:16,040 Speaker 1: and it's gonna be your fault draw test. Wait. A 64 00:03:16,080 --> 00:03:18,840 Speaker 1: minute YouTube. Um, what you need to do is you 65 00:03:18,880 --> 00:03:21,640 Speaker 1: need to do a draw test. All right. You know somebody, 66 00:03:21,760 --> 00:03:23,680 Speaker 1: either you or or somebody else you don't own a 67 00:03:23,720 --> 00:03:28,040 Speaker 1: digital voultomemeter by chance to you about three okay, So 68 00:03:28,400 --> 00:03:30,360 Speaker 1: go over to the battery, pick your pick your poison 69 00:03:30,440 --> 00:03:33,080 Speaker 1: positive or negative. We can spend the next ten years 70 00:03:33,240 --> 00:03:36,680 Speaker 1: having the theory conversation about which way electrons flow. UM, 71 00:03:36,720 --> 00:03:38,920 Speaker 1: I like to pull the negative cable off. It's as 72 00:03:38,920 --> 00:03:41,000 Speaker 1: long as it's accessible. Let's set the meter up on 73 00:03:41,040 --> 00:03:44,720 Speaker 1: amperage and let's see what kind of amperage flow we've got, 74 00:03:45,120 --> 00:03:48,560 Speaker 1: all right. We we want to see fifty milliams or 75 00:03:48,760 --> 00:03:53,720 Speaker 1: less typically within a sixty minute time period, cars vary. 76 00:03:53,840 --> 00:03:55,720 Speaker 1: I could look up the speck for yours. I'm gonna 77 00:03:55,720 --> 00:03:58,480 Speaker 1: guess and say yours will probably knock off between twenty 78 00:03:58,960 --> 00:04:01,960 Speaker 1: and thirty five minute, but we want to see under 79 00:04:02,040 --> 00:04:05,720 Speaker 1: fifty million ams. All right. Now, when you when you 80 00:04:05,800 --> 00:04:08,080 Speaker 1: set it up for this, and you know obviously you're 81 00:04:08,080 --> 00:04:10,720 Speaker 1: putting the meter in series with that negative battery cable 82 00:04:10,720 --> 00:04:14,320 Speaker 1: in the battery, you want to make sure on GM product, 83 00:04:14,320 --> 00:04:17,360 Speaker 1: if it's a side terminal, that you've got good contact 84 00:04:17,520 --> 00:04:19,800 Speaker 1: because of those. You know, the side terminal bolt that 85 00:04:19,839 --> 00:04:21,480 Speaker 1: you don't attach the meter to that you want to 86 00:04:21,520 --> 00:04:24,400 Speaker 1: grip the cable so that you have good contact. You 87 00:04:24,440 --> 00:04:26,960 Speaker 1: want to do it with the hood closed, key out 88 00:04:27,680 --> 00:04:30,440 Speaker 1: all right. When I set when I set a car 89 00:04:30,560 --> 00:04:33,200 Speaker 1: up for draw, I always put the driver's window down, 90 00:04:34,160 --> 00:04:35,839 Speaker 1: all right, So if I have to reach into the 91 00:04:35,880 --> 00:04:38,560 Speaker 1: car to look or get a sense of something, I 92 00:04:38,640 --> 00:04:40,360 Speaker 1: have to open the door. Because once I opened the door, 93 00:04:40,440 --> 00:04:44,720 Speaker 1: I reset the timer, all right. So you know you're 94 00:04:44,720 --> 00:04:47,080 Speaker 1: either gonna do that or you're gonna trip the door latch. 95 00:04:47,760 --> 00:04:50,960 Speaker 1: You know, take a screwdriver and lock the door, all right. 96 00:04:51,000 --> 00:04:53,800 Speaker 1: You know, pretend your screw drivers the striker lock the 97 00:04:53,839 --> 00:04:55,120 Speaker 1: latch and that will close the door and you can 98 00:04:55,160 --> 00:04:56,560 Speaker 1: sit there with the door open and do whatever you 99 00:04:56,600 --> 00:04:59,000 Speaker 1: want inside the car however you want to approach this. 100 00:04:59,120 --> 00:05:02,920 Speaker 1: But the idea it becomes that hood down meter out 101 00:05:02,960 --> 00:05:04,680 Speaker 1: on top. You know, I usually lay it on the 102 00:05:04,760 --> 00:05:07,440 Speaker 1: driver's side wiper, and you're looking for the draw to 103 00:05:07,440 --> 00:05:09,240 Speaker 1: go down. You want to see it under fifty millions. 104 00:05:09,800 --> 00:05:12,120 Speaker 1: And you know, when you find that it doesn't go 105 00:05:12,200 --> 00:05:14,960 Speaker 1: under fifty milliams, now at least you can start looking 106 00:05:15,000 --> 00:05:19,040 Speaker 1: for your draw um. Once you see that that number, 107 00:05:19,080 --> 00:05:20,960 Speaker 1: whatever it comes out to be, let's say it becomes 108 00:05:21,000 --> 00:05:24,400 Speaker 1: two milliams. Pop the hood. This is the reason why 109 00:05:24,400 --> 00:05:26,680 Speaker 1: the door of the windows open. All right, Pop the 110 00:05:26,680 --> 00:05:29,960 Speaker 1: hood back open and see if the draw goes up. 111 00:05:30,040 --> 00:05:32,880 Speaker 1: If the draw doesn't change, then you know that the 112 00:05:32,960 --> 00:05:36,840 Speaker 1: vehicle doesn't have an anti thefter. It's not affecting all right, 113 00:05:37,200 --> 00:05:40,719 Speaker 1: the the the the meter. If it does affect it, 114 00:05:40,800 --> 00:05:42,279 Speaker 1: or you can try it before and if you see 115 00:05:42,320 --> 00:05:44,880 Speaker 1: obviously there's a plunger under the hood, you know there's 116 00:05:44,880 --> 00:05:47,640 Speaker 1: an anti theft system built into the car. Trip the door, 117 00:05:47,760 --> 00:05:50,200 Speaker 1: trip the hood latch, like you did the door latch, 118 00:05:50,600 --> 00:05:53,800 Speaker 1: close it and that takes a big screw driver, all right, 119 00:05:54,360 --> 00:05:56,960 Speaker 1: Or find a way to either jumper across or bypass 120 00:05:57,080 --> 00:05:59,080 Speaker 1: that that hood switch that you put the car in. 121 00:05:59,320 --> 00:06:01,159 Speaker 1: When the meter, when it goes to sleep, it goes 122 00:06:01,200 --> 00:06:03,240 Speaker 1: to sleep. If you get what I'm saying, all right, 123 00:06:03,480 --> 00:06:06,280 Speaker 1: Because you're gonna need access to the underhood fuse box. 124 00:06:06,279 --> 00:06:09,760 Speaker 1: You're gonna need access to the instrument cluster fuse box. 125 00:06:10,160 --> 00:06:12,040 Speaker 1: And now you've got to go through one fuse at 126 00:06:12,040 --> 00:06:14,840 Speaker 1: a time, one fuse at a time. I never I'll 127 00:06:14,880 --> 00:06:17,840 Speaker 1: never forget the first time I talked about this on radio, 128 00:06:18,200 --> 00:06:20,159 Speaker 1: and some guy was and he heard it, and he 129 00:06:20,160 --> 00:06:22,040 Speaker 1: called me a week later and he said, I got 130 00:06:22,040 --> 00:06:23,520 Speaker 1: all the fuses out of the car. How do I 131 00:06:23,560 --> 00:06:27,400 Speaker 1: know where they go? And I went vault, Yeah, I 132 00:06:27,400 --> 00:06:30,640 Speaker 1: could just And I still picture this guy thirty years later. 133 00:06:30,720 --> 00:06:33,360 Speaker 1: Still you know this fuse must go here in this 134 00:06:33,360 --> 00:06:36,360 Speaker 1: fuse And I go, oh my god, um so one 135 00:06:36,440 --> 00:06:40,000 Speaker 1: fuse at a time. All right, what what changes the 136 00:06:40,080 --> 00:06:43,120 Speaker 1: draw level? All right? I will I will tell you 137 00:06:43,160 --> 00:06:46,560 Speaker 1: that the two circuits that are the most common. But 138 00:06:47,120 --> 00:06:48,840 Speaker 1: and I'll do it. I'll do it just maybe it'll 139 00:06:48,880 --> 00:06:52,400 Speaker 1: help your diagnosis. But don't you know, try and shortcut 140 00:06:52,400 --> 00:06:55,679 Speaker 1: and focus just on those. The two things that seemed 141 00:06:55,720 --> 00:06:59,960 Speaker 1: to go wrong the most with these cars are the BCN, 142 00:07:00,080 --> 00:07:04,239 Speaker 1: the body control module, and the radio. The radio actually 143 00:07:04,360 --> 00:07:06,520 Speaker 1: is number one cause of a draw on these cars. 144 00:07:06,560 --> 00:07:11,040 Speaker 1: It seems um and it channels through the BCM. So 145 00:07:11,480 --> 00:07:13,720 Speaker 1: you you may find some comfort in that if you 146 00:07:13,720 --> 00:07:15,600 Speaker 1: get a wiring diagram. And here's a case where you 147 00:07:15,640 --> 00:07:17,760 Speaker 1: want to look at a wiring diagram and look at 148 00:07:17,800 --> 00:07:20,480 Speaker 1: power and ground distribution and just understand how you know 149 00:07:20,520 --> 00:07:22,600 Speaker 1: it flows in and out of the vehicle and start 150 00:07:22,640 --> 00:07:24,480 Speaker 1: to look at it. If you want to get a 151 00:07:24,520 --> 00:07:27,640 Speaker 1: little more high tech than this, one of the things 152 00:07:27,680 --> 00:07:29,280 Speaker 1: you can go out and purchase if you need a 153 00:07:29,320 --> 00:07:32,000 Speaker 1: reason to buy more tools. Is there are there are 154 00:07:32,160 --> 00:07:34,960 Speaker 1: thermal imager guns all right? You know you'll see him 155 00:07:35,040 --> 00:07:37,640 Speaker 1: using a c and heating. We started using him in 156 00:07:37,640 --> 00:07:41,239 Speaker 1: the last couple of years for electrical draw work where 157 00:07:41,280 --> 00:07:44,520 Speaker 1: we'll take the cover off that underhood relay box and 158 00:07:44,760 --> 00:07:47,200 Speaker 1: once the car goes to sleep, if there's still a draw, 159 00:07:47,840 --> 00:07:50,960 Speaker 1: shoot the thermal imager at the relay box, which relay 160 00:07:51,040 --> 00:07:53,280 Speaker 1: is hot. If you've got a hot relay, that circuit 161 00:07:53,360 --> 00:07:55,880 Speaker 1: is still awake. Now why is it awake? Is it 162 00:07:55,920 --> 00:07:59,880 Speaker 1: awake because something has kept relay on i e. The 163 00:08:00,040 --> 00:08:02,280 Speaker 1: BCM doesn't let it go to sleep, or is the 164 00:08:02,360 --> 00:08:05,800 Speaker 1: relay stuck for that particular circuit. Whatever it might be. 165 00:08:05,880 --> 00:08:09,960 Speaker 1: Not necessarily just BCM um and thermal imagers are you know, 166 00:08:09,960 --> 00:08:11,480 Speaker 1: there are a couple of hundred bucks now three four 167 00:08:11,520 --> 00:08:13,200 Speaker 1: hundred dollars. It's and in the world of water, to 168 00:08:13,200 --> 00:08:16,120 Speaker 1: repair three fours is like going out to get a cheeseburger. 169 00:08:16,120 --> 00:08:19,440 Speaker 1: It's not a lot of money, uh, you know, And it'll, it'll, it'll, 170 00:08:19,520 --> 00:08:22,160 Speaker 1: you know, and they do come in handy. Um, thermal 171 00:08:22,200 --> 00:08:25,320 Speaker 1: imagers are just becoming you know. I was working on 172 00:08:25,400 --> 00:08:27,680 Speaker 1: something a couple of weeks back, looking for a misfire, 173 00:08:27,720 --> 00:08:30,040 Speaker 1: and I shot the exhaust manifold on the one side 174 00:08:30,280 --> 00:08:32,840 Speaker 1: and I saw, I saw the temperature variation right away. 175 00:08:32,880 --> 00:08:36,000 Speaker 1: I could see this side's misfiring, this side's not. Didn't 176 00:08:36,000 --> 00:08:38,400 Speaker 1: even break the scanner out yet. Um. I just had 177 00:08:38,440 --> 00:08:40,600 Speaker 1: a light flashing and real quick grab the thermal imagers. 178 00:08:40,679 --> 00:08:44,320 Speaker 1: So they serve multiple purposes. But that's that's how I 179 00:08:44,320 --> 00:08:47,640 Speaker 1: would approach that, all right. UM, you know, just keep 180 00:08:47,640 --> 00:08:50,000 Speaker 1: in mind that this is a good this is a 181 00:08:50,040 --> 00:08:53,079 Speaker 1: good repair to you know, get a notepad and a pen, 182 00:08:53,200 --> 00:08:55,760 Speaker 1: and you know, I I started to draw test at 183 00:08:55,760 --> 00:08:59,280 Speaker 1: ten oh five because inevitably you're doing the draw test 184 00:08:59,800 --> 00:09:01,520 Speaker 1: and somebody comes up and starts talking to you, and 185 00:09:01,559 --> 00:09:03,360 Speaker 1: then you lose track of what time they just start 186 00:09:03,400 --> 00:09:06,160 Speaker 1: and you know, you can see that, you know, and 187 00:09:06,200 --> 00:09:08,160 Speaker 1: all of a sudden you realize you haven't standing next 188 00:09:08,160 --> 00:09:09,800 Speaker 1: to this car for an hour and the draw hasn't 189 00:09:09,840 --> 00:09:12,880 Speaker 1: gone down. You know, you've got a problem, all right. 190 00:09:13,360 --> 00:09:15,760 Speaker 1: So just a good time to take notes and things 191 00:09:15,800 --> 00:09:18,000 Speaker 1: like that. Give that a shot, unless you have some 192 00:09:18,040 --> 00:09:19,760 Speaker 1: other questions and give me a called back next week. 193 00:09:19,840 --> 00:09:21,800 Speaker 1: Let me know what happens. We'll go from there. Wonderful. 194 00:09:21,840 --> 00:09:24,320 Speaker 1: All right, thank you very much, very well, all your health. 195 00:09:24,360 --> 00:09:27,760 Speaker 1: You've really enjoyed your radio show. And I don't think 196 00:09:27,760 --> 00:09:30,120 Speaker 1: I regret is I didn't find you earlier. Well, listen, 197 00:09:30,120 --> 00:09:31,800 Speaker 1: I'm glad you're here now, and I'm glad to catch 198 00:09:31,800 --> 00:09:34,280 Speaker 1: you among the many, and you have yourself a good, safe, 199 00:09:34,280 --> 00:09:37,240 Speaker 1: happy new year. Thank you you too. You're very welcome. 200 00:09:37,280 --> 00:09:40,319 Speaker 1: Don eight five five zero nine zero run any of 201 00:09:40,320 --> 00:09:51,480 Speaker 1: the car doctor coming back right after this care Hey, 202 00:09:51,840 --> 00:09:54,800 Speaker 1: hang in here, welcome back. Um, Hey Tom see you 203 00:09:54,920 --> 00:09:57,720 Speaker 1: Uh you don't have Walt. You haven't heard from Walt 204 00:09:57,760 --> 00:10:01,160 Speaker 1: in Hawaii? No, not really. Something tells me he's probably, 205 00:10:01,520 --> 00:10:04,120 Speaker 1: you know, sitting on a beach someplace while we're looking 206 00:10:04,120 --> 00:10:08,000 Speaker 1: at sixteen degrees in snow. Well, because you know Santa, 207 00:10:08,120 --> 00:10:10,880 Speaker 1: I meant to say this when I was up there, Um, 208 00:10:10,920 --> 00:10:13,679 Speaker 1: you know, last week helping Santa with the Saber technology 209 00:10:13,760 --> 00:10:16,360 Speaker 1: radar and all that stuff. Um, Santa gave me a 210 00:10:16,400 --> 00:10:18,680 Speaker 1: present for Walt. And I've got a kicking around under 211 00:10:18,679 --> 00:10:21,920 Speaker 1: my desk, it says to Walton, Hawaii. Yeah, why why 212 00:10:21,920 --> 00:10:24,720 Speaker 1: didn't you drop it off himself? Well, because Santa figured 213 00:10:24,760 --> 00:10:27,520 Speaker 1: Walt would like, you know, the thrill of me handing 214 00:10:27,520 --> 00:10:31,680 Speaker 1: it to him, so to speak over the year, and if, if, 215 00:10:31,760 --> 00:10:33,760 Speaker 1: if you get a call from Walter in Hawaii in 216 00:10:33,760 --> 00:10:36,200 Speaker 1: the next couple of weeks, I'll let him know we 217 00:10:36,240 --> 00:10:38,080 Speaker 1: have it. Let him we haven't talked you to get it, 218 00:10:38,120 --> 00:10:39,440 Speaker 1: and he has to talk to me to get it, 219 00:10:39,480 --> 00:10:40,880 Speaker 1: and you know, we have to get his address, and 220 00:10:40,960 --> 00:10:43,080 Speaker 1: we're gonna send it out to him, and uh, he'll 221 00:10:43,120 --> 00:10:45,680 Speaker 1: like it. He just so, Walt, if you're listening, pick 222 00:10:45,760 --> 00:10:47,920 Speaker 1: up the phone. Let's see what that does. You know what, Well, 223 00:10:48,000 --> 00:10:49,840 Speaker 1: it's not a coconut tree, and we're not sending you 224 00:10:49,880 --> 00:10:52,079 Speaker 1: a load of snow from here. So we could try 225 00:10:52,080 --> 00:10:53,520 Speaker 1: sending him a load of snow, but by the time 226 00:10:53,520 --> 00:10:54,960 Speaker 1: it gets there to look like a glass of water. 227 00:10:56,120 --> 00:11:00,080 Speaker 1: Let's let's go over and talk to Mike in New Hampshire. 228 00:11:00,080 --> 00:11:01,640 Speaker 1: Welcome to the car doctor, sir. How can I help? 229 00:11:03,120 --> 00:11:05,400 Speaker 1: How you ron? How you doing? Yes, sir, very good? 230 00:11:05,400 --> 00:11:06,959 Speaker 1: What's going on? Hey? How cold is it up there 231 00:11:06,960 --> 00:11:10,120 Speaker 1: in New Hampshire? This weekend. It was having around zero 232 00:11:10,240 --> 00:11:15,280 Speaker 1: this morning. The last time I looked warm spell huh. 233 00:11:15,480 --> 00:11:18,640 Speaker 1: We went skiing yesterday and it was five below on 234 00:11:18,720 --> 00:11:24,760 Speaker 1: top of the mountains. How much snow you got probably 235 00:11:24,960 --> 00:11:27,240 Speaker 1: on the ground right now it's it's settled, we probably 236 00:11:27,240 --> 00:11:30,840 Speaker 1: still got about on the ground. Okay, So well more coming, 237 00:11:30,880 --> 00:11:33,480 Speaker 1: I'm sure. Oh yes, what's what's going on? How can 238 00:11:33,520 --> 00:11:36,600 Speaker 1: I help you? Well? Probably got two or three weeks ago. 239 00:11:36,720 --> 00:11:40,959 Speaker 1: You were talking about after market parts, and I have 240 00:11:41,080 --> 00:11:44,440 Speaker 1: my own little story about those. Alright, go ahead, yeah, absolutely. 241 00:11:44,600 --> 00:11:48,160 Speaker 1: I've got a nine three Toyota pick fo oil drive 242 00:11:48,200 --> 00:11:54,360 Speaker 1: pickup and uh at one point the uh clutch win. 243 00:11:54,480 --> 00:11:58,040 Speaker 1: He's got a high graul clutch. So I went and 244 00:11:58,120 --> 00:12:00,960 Speaker 1: I bought after market process one of the box stores. 245 00:12:02,080 --> 00:12:04,800 Speaker 1: I bought both Master and Slave cylinder. Figured if I'm 246 00:12:04,840 --> 00:12:07,760 Speaker 1: gonna go in there, mis all um replace them both. 247 00:12:08,880 --> 00:12:12,560 Speaker 1: And it lasted for about three or four days, and 248 00:12:12,600 --> 00:12:14,560 Speaker 1: then I didn't have a pedal again. So I said, 249 00:12:14,600 --> 00:12:16,480 Speaker 1: all right, well, maybe I got a bad price. So 250 00:12:16,559 --> 00:12:21,160 Speaker 1: I took it back and they replaced both of them 251 00:12:21,400 --> 00:12:22,959 Speaker 1: because we did't I didn't know which one it was, 252 00:12:23,520 --> 00:12:26,840 Speaker 1: and I bench played and put everything back in right, 253 00:12:27,600 --> 00:12:31,840 Speaker 1: and uh again, it lasted about three days. So I 254 00:12:31,880 --> 00:12:34,760 Speaker 1: took that pap back, went to a different box store 255 00:12:34,840 --> 00:12:36,960 Speaker 1: because you know, they have a different supposed they have 256 00:12:37,000 --> 00:12:41,079 Speaker 1: different supplier. It's a different white box part. Yeah, I 257 00:12:41,200 --> 00:12:43,760 Speaker 1: got the same thing. They only lasted like three or 258 00:12:43,800 --> 00:12:48,120 Speaker 1: four days. So at this point, I'm questioning my skills 259 00:12:48,120 --> 00:12:51,480 Speaker 1: because but I've been doing this now for forty years, 260 00:12:51,559 --> 00:12:54,400 Speaker 1: and you're questioning, right, You're like, what am I What 261 00:12:54,440 --> 00:12:58,720 Speaker 1: am I doing wrong? Yeah again? Yeah? Uh So anyway, 262 00:12:59,240 --> 00:13:01,920 Speaker 1: I I says, all right, I'll just take it right 263 00:13:01,920 --> 00:13:05,199 Speaker 1: to a Toyota dealership. Let them tell me what I 264 00:13:05,240 --> 00:13:07,880 Speaker 1: did wrong. They had that thing on the lift for 265 00:13:07,920 --> 00:13:10,640 Speaker 1: an hour and they came back scratching their head, and 266 00:13:10,640 --> 00:13:12,840 Speaker 1: he says, we don't understand it, but we know it's massive. 267 00:13:12,840 --> 00:13:17,280 Speaker 1: Solina is bad. So make a long story short, I 268 00:13:17,440 --> 00:13:21,760 Speaker 1: ordered instead of the dollar bus um store massive cylinder, 269 00:13:22,800 --> 00:13:26,720 Speaker 1: I ordered the hundred and thirty dollars Toyota Massive Cylinder. 270 00:13:27,840 --> 00:13:32,200 Speaker 1: And three months later, it's still working just fine, and 271 00:13:32,360 --> 00:13:35,520 Speaker 1: I've got the same situation I've had to put. It's 272 00:13:35,520 --> 00:13:38,240 Speaker 1: got two in seventies, six thousand miles on it. The 273 00:13:38,280 --> 00:13:42,120 Speaker 1: first set of ball joints lasted two and again I 274 00:13:42,160 --> 00:13:46,720 Speaker 1: bought the eighteen dollar aftermarket ball joints. They lasted a year. 275 00:13:48,480 --> 00:13:52,480 Speaker 1: And now I'm back to Toyota Parks. So I, uh, 276 00:13:52,600 --> 00:13:54,680 Speaker 1: you really kind of resigned myself and I'm gonna stop 277 00:13:54,720 --> 00:13:57,480 Speaker 1: buying a lot more. You know, O em Pires you 278 00:13:57,559 --> 00:13:59,599 Speaker 1: have to, you know, you have to if you're on 279 00:13:59,720 --> 00:14:02,960 Speaker 1: set any for your own good. We we talk about 280 00:14:03,000 --> 00:14:06,480 Speaker 1: it in terms of legacy companies. You've you've got to 281 00:14:06,559 --> 00:14:08,640 Speaker 1: buy from the major names. You've gotta buy from the 282 00:14:08,679 --> 00:14:12,720 Speaker 1: major brands. And I think that you know the mechanics. No, listen, 283 00:14:12,720 --> 00:14:14,480 Speaker 1: I can tell you who I who I believe is 284 00:14:14,520 --> 00:14:16,280 Speaker 1: making the same part for the O E as they 285 00:14:16,280 --> 00:14:19,880 Speaker 1: are for the aftermarket themselves. Um, they're not the issue. 286 00:14:19,960 --> 00:14:21,480 Speaker 1: Once in a while they get a bad one, and 287 00:14:21,480 --> 00:14:23,200 Speaker 1: you know, there's always a bad apple in the in 288 00:14:23,200 --> 00:14:25,080 Speaker 1: the bunch. It just it just kind of works its 289 00:14:25,080 --> 00:14:29,240 Speaker 1: way through. It happens. But the frequency level of the 290 00:14:30,040 --> 00:14:32,080 Speaker 1: you know, white box, you know, and I can't just 291 00:14:32,120 --> 00:14:34,800 Speaker 1: say made in China or or fifty seconds stank because 292 00:14:34,800 --> 00:14:38,760 Speaker 1: everything's made in China today. Um uh, you know it's 293 00:14:38,760 --> 00:14:41,400 Speaker 1: like I bought motorcraft break parts the other week, and 294 00:14:41,440 --> 00:14:43,600 Speaker 1: they were made in China. And the only argument I 295 00:14:43,640 --> 00:14:46,120 Speaker 1: have with it is that I think motorcraft specs out 296 00:14:46,120 --> 00:14:50,240 Speaker 1: their stuff different than that white box break part made 297 00:14:50,280 --> 00:14:51,880 Speaker 1: in China, and that that must be what it is 298 00:14:51,920 --> 00:14:56,120 Speaker 1: because it works. Um. My argument for an OE part 299 00:14:56,240 --> 00:14:59,760 Speaker 1: or a legacy part is it's not the cost of 300 00:15:00,080 --> 00:15:01,880 Speaker 1: what you pay for it the first time. It's the 301 00:15:01,920 --> 00:15:03,520 Speaker 1: cost of what you pay for it having to do 302 00:15:03,560 --> 00:15:08,520 Speaker 1: it again and again and again. Hut, you know both 303 00:15:08,560 --> 00:15:15,080 Speaker 1: both in terms of customer satisfaction, your safety, the time lost. 304 00:15:15,320 --> 00:15:19,080 Speaker 1: It's just it's just staggering to me. Well, in this case, 305 00:15:19,400 --> 00:15:22,600 Speaker 1: I also had the one hour on the lift at 306 00:15:22,640 --> 00:15:26,560 Speaker 1: the dealership that if I had bought that Toyota park 307 00:15:26,640 --> 00:15:30,080 Speaker 1: to begin with, I wouldn't have had to pay for right, Yeah, 308 00:15:30,120 --> 00:15:32,400 Speaker 1: And what's it all worth? It's you know when people 309 00:15:32,440 --> 00:15:34,520 Speaker 1: say to me, and you know, it's funny. I watch, 310 00:15:35,400 --> 00:15:37,040 Speaker 1: I did a water pump this week. I'll tell you, 311 00:15:37,080 --> 00:15:38,480 Speaker 1: I'll tell you this story I did. I did a 312 00:15:38,480 --> 00:15:42,960 Speaker 1: water pump this week, gmc acadia. All right, and for 313 00:15:43,000 --> 00:15:45,360 Speaker 1: whatever reason, it was the first one I'd ever done. 314 00:15:45,640 --> 00:15:47,440 Speaker 1: All Right, Maybe they're just you know, it's only four 315 00:15:47,520 --> 00:15:49,600 Speaker 1: years old, five years old. They're just starting to, you know, 316 00:15:49,640 --> 00:15:52,600 Speaker 1: get to that hundred thousand mile mark, first one I've 317 00:15:52,640 --> 00:15:55,440 Speaker 1: done of this generation. So I you know, I went 318 00:15:55,440 --> 00:15:57,200 Speaker 1: through all that. I went through Mitchell, I went through 319 00:15:57,200 --> 00:15:59,400 Speaker 1: the factory manual, and nobody really gave you a good 320 00:15:59,440 --> 00:16:02,000 Speaker 1: perspective on how to do it, all right. They just 321 00:16:02,080 --> 00:16:03,880 Speaker 1: all said, yeah, take the water pump out, put the 322 00:16:03,880 --> 00:16:06,440 Speaker 1: water pump in. Yeah, too bad, the fender, the inner panel, 323 00:16:07,000 --> 00:16:09,280 Speaker 1: you know, and that right front corner of the cars 324 00:16:09,280 --> 00:16:11,160 Speaker 1: in the way. They don't explain how to get around that. 325 00:16:12,280 --> 00:16:15,120 Speaker 1: So yeah, I understand, take off the upper motor mountain. 326 00:16:15,280 --> 00:16:18,480 Speaker 1: I got that. And but you know, they were conflicting comments. 327 00:16:18,480 --> 00:16:21,200 Speaker 1: Some said you do, some said you don't. I started 328 00:16:21,200 --> 00:16:23,320 Speaker 1: looking at YouTube. Listen, I'll admit it. We look at 329 00:16:23,320 --> 00:16:24,840 Speaker 1: YouTube in the shop. We want to see what other 330 00:16:24,840 --> 00:16:27,280 Speaker 1: people are thinking and talking about in real world stuff. 331 00:16:28,240 --> 00:16:30,920 Speaker 1: And it was funny how one guy a couple of 332 00:16:30,920 --> 00:16:32,800 Speaker 1: people were saying, hey, don't take it to the dealer 333 00:16:32,840 --> 00:16:34,560 Speaker 1: for this. They're gonna rip you off. It's really easy 334 00:16:34,600 --> 00:16:37,600 Speaker 1: to do. And you watch them go through these convoluted, 335 00:16:37,640 --> 00:16:43,120 Speaker 1: twisted turnaround procedures that you know, just make no sense 336 00:16:43,160 --> 00:16:45,600 Speaker 1: at all. Why are they doing it that way? And 337 00:16:45,600 --> 00:16:50,760 Speaker 1: they're doing it putting in the cheapest possible part, and 338 00:16:50,920 --> 00:16:53,440 Speaker 1: you look at it and you're like, oh my god, 339 00:16:53,480 --> 00:16:56,400 Speaker 1: Like we're gonna have to revisit this a second time. 340 00:16:56,760 --> 00:17:00,680 Speaker 1: Are you out of your mind? You know it's it's 341 00:17:01,320 --> 00:17:03,600 Speaker 1: the water pump I put in that car, a C 342 00:17:03,800 --> 00:17:06,919 Speaker 1: Delco right out of the dealer. Uh, you know, dealer 343 00:17:07,000 --> 00:17:11,080 Speaker 1: level part. Wouldn't use anything else, you know, it's it's 344 00:17:10,920 --> 00:17:13,240 Speaker 1: it's come to that, you know, we we we've been 345 00:17:13,280 --> 00:17:15,919 Speaker 1: talking about it off and on the last couple of weeks. 346 00:17:16,320 --> 00:17:19,480 Speaker 1: Um Bosch all right, not not to make it a commercial, 347 00:17:19,600 --> 00:17:22,200 Speaker 1: but Bosch makes a heck of an auto part. They're 348 00:17:22,280 --> 00:17:25,760 Speaker 1: what I consider a legacy company, and you know, we're 349 00:17:25,800 --> 00:17:28,600 Speaker 1: talking to them and I'm getting some insight into some 350 00:17:28,680 --> 00:17:30,840 Speaker 1: of the things they have to go through and some 351 00:17:30,960 --> 00:17:33,560 Speaker 1: of the hoops they have to go through to you know, 352 00:17:33,680 --> 00:17:36,560 Speaker 1: to jump through to to to make those parts. And yeah, 353 00:17:37,080 --> 00:17:41,119 Speaker 1: Bosch is an oe part provider. So when you you know, 354 00:17:41,160 --> 00:17:43,359 Speaker 1: when you buy a Bosch part, you're buying the same 355 00:17:43,400 --> 00:17:47,000 Speaker 1: part that you walk into the dealership and and and purchase. 356 00:17:47,080 --> 00:17:49,240 Speaker 1: And and that's what makes it so important. I don't 357 00:17:49,280 --> 00:17:51,959 Speaker 1: know if they make clutch and slave and master selders 358 00:17:52,000 --> 00:17:55,280 Speaker 1: for Toyota's. But you get my point, Um, you get 359 00:17:55,280 --> 00:17:57,879 Speaker 1: what you paid for. Um, you know, trust me. I 360 00:17:57,920 --> 00:18:01,320 Speaker 1: wish everybody should do a water pump on gmc acadia once. 361 00:18:02,119 --> 00:18:03,960 Speaker 1: I don't never want to do it. You know, don't 362 00:18:03,960 --> 00:18:05,560 Speaker 1: never want to buy a cheap part. I can tell 363 00:18:05,600 --> 00:18:07,960 Speaker 1: you that as I'm sure we love buy a cheap 364 00:18:08,840 --> 00:18:13,359 Speaker 1: clutch and master. Um so, but anyway, listen, Mike, I 365 00:18:13,359 --> 00:18:16,080 Speaker 1: gotta go there, come up against the clock. I appreciate 366 00:18:16,160 --> 00:18:18,359 Speaker 1: the call, sir, and um, as always, your insight is 367 00:18:18,400 --> 00:18:21,320 Speaker 1: wonderful and you keep them coming. And um, you know, 368 00:18:21,800 --> 00:18:23,880 Speaker 1: proud to catch him on the Car Doctor Nation. Hey, 369 00:18:23,920 --> 00:18:26,760 Speaker 1: coming up next, a candid conversation with the folks from Case. 370 00:18:26,840 --> 00:18:37,320 Speaker 1: You'll stick around. We'll be back right after this. Heyy 371 00:18:37,400 --> 00:18:39,000 Speaker 1: Ron and any and the Car Doctor. We're back. You know, 372 00:18:39,280 --> 00:18:41,199 Speaker 1: a couple of weeks ago. I guess it's more like 373 00:18:41,600 --> 00:18:43,280 Speaker 1: eight weeks ago. For those of you that are watching 374 00:18:43,280 --> 00:18:45,800 Speaker 1: the Facebook video, Hey, I guess it did work. Um, 375 00:18:45,840 --> 00:18:48,879 Speaker 1: we posted a video up online for a car we 376 00:18:48,920 --> 00:18:50,600 Speaker 1: had in the shop. I had, I had an older 377 00:18:50,680 --> 00:18:52,560 Speaker 1: Pontiac came in and its oh it was a good 378 00:18:52,600 --> 00:18:54,879 Speaker 1: ten of eleven years old, hundred thousand miles on it. 379 00:18:54,880 --> 00:18:58,160 Speaker 1: It had some cooling system issues ongoing. And rather than 380 00:18:58,240 --> 00:19:00,480 Speaker 1: put the college student with no pop the book and 381 00:19:00,480 --> 00:19:04,119 Speaker 1: no budget into this repair, putting three thousand dollars plus 382 00:19:04,119 --> 00:19:07,000 Speaker 1: into this ten eleven year old car higher mileage, we 383 00:19:07,119 --> 00:19:09,520 Speaker 1: poured a bottle of case and a case heal is 384 00:19:09,520 --> 00:19:13,160 Speaker 1: a cooling system sealer. A lot of interesting comments, some good, 385 00:19:13,440 --> 00:19:15,320 Speaker 1: some not so good. Some people don't want to look 386 00:19:15,359 --> 00:19:17,440 Speaker 1: at new technology. I don't know if it scares them 387 00:19:17,480 --> 00:19:20,320 Speaker 1: or they're just not able to for other reasons. But 388 00:19:20,560 --> 00:19:23,160 Speaker 1: I thought I would end the dispute or maybe fan 389 00:19:23,280 --> 00:19:25,040 Speaker 1: the flames. I'm not sure how this is gonna work, 390 00:19:25,440 --> 00:19:28,399 Speaker 1: and Um, I've reached out to CASEIL and we're gonna 391 00:19:28,440 --> 00:19:31,480 Speaker 1: We're gonna talk to Mike Schlupp from he's the managing 392 00:19:31,520 --> 00:19:33,960 Speaker 1: director for case CIL. He's calling him from England today 393 00:19:33,960 --> 00:19:35,880 Speaker 1: as a matter of fact, and then we're glad he's 394 00:19:35,880 --> 00:19:37,480 Speaker 1: taken some time out of his day to be with us. Mike, 395 00:19:37,520 --> 00:19:40,760 Speaker 1: Welcome aboard the car. Doctor sir, Hello, Rum, thank you 396 00:19:40,840 --> 00:19:44,040 Speaker 1: very much for having me. Um, let's talk about coolant 397 00:19:44,080 --> 00:19:46,600 Speaker 1: leaks in general. If we can all right, Um, you know, 398 00:19:46,640 --> 00:19:49,320 Speaker 1: are there are there different types of leaks? Or you know, 399 00:19:49,400 --> 00:19:52,280 Speaker 1: is is there internal? Is there external? Is there anything 400 00:19:52,280 --> 00:19:54,280 Speaker 1: I'm missing when I start to think and want to 401 00:19:54,320 --> 00:19:58,600 Speaker 1: explain it to people here on radio, Um, there are 402 00:19:58,760 --> 00:20:02,040 Speaker 1: all sorts of leaks. I mean, what people normally expect 403 00:20:02,080 --> 00:20:06,760 Speaker 1: to see is a puddle underneath the engine. UM, and 404 00:20:06,760 --> 00:20:10,000 Speaker 1: and that's great. Then you know, yeah, there's water leaking out, 405 00:20:10,000 --> 00:20:12,760 Speaker 1: there's call of leaking out. I have a problem and 406 00:20:12,800 --> 00:20:15,359 Speaker 1: you can start looking for it. But it's not always 407 00:20:15,359 --> 00:20:18,920 Speaker 1: as easy as that. They are internal leaks. You could 408 00:20:18,920 --> 00:20:21,520 Speaker 1: have instead of the water just leaking out of the radiator, 409 00:20:21,600 --> 00:20:24,640 Speaker 1: which is a common problem, it could be leaking internally 410 00:20:24,640 --> 00:20:27,880 Speaker 1: across the cylinder head into the cylinders. It could even 411 00:20:27,880 --> 00:20:32,240 Speaker 1: be leaking into the oil. UM. All of these issues 412 00:20:32,520 --> 00:20:35,320 Speaker 1: are maybe not so visible, but they're all going to 413 00:20:35,400 --> 00:20:38,520 Speaker 1: cause some serious problems if they're not dealt with as 414 00:20:38,600 --> 00:20:43,080 Speaker 1: quickly as possible. Is there an issue today with all 415 00:20:43,119 --> 00:20:45,679 Speaker 1: the different coolins on the market. Because I've had that 416 00:20:45,760 --> 00:20:48,680 Speaker 1: question put to me. Also people will say, you know, Ron, 417 00:20:48,760 --> 00:20:51,040 Speaker 1: how can how can one product or how can any 418 00:20:51,160 --> 00:20:54,320 Speaker 1: product work in a vehicle? You know, there's so many 419 00:20:54,320 --> 00:20:59,280 Speaker 1: different choices for cool and how does that affect the technology? UM, Yet, 420 00:20:59,400 --> 00:21:01,560 Speaker 1: you do need to look out for that. There are 421 00:21:02,160 --> 00:21:06,080 Speaker 1: some chemicals that are used to stop leaks in cooling 422 00:21:06,119 --> 00:21:09,520 Speaker 1: systems that actually can react with the certain types of 423 00:21:09,560 --> 00:21:14,639 Speaker 1: cooling or anti freeze. Specifically, it's a sodium silicate is 424 00:21:14,680 --> 00:21:17,280 Speaker 1: a is a chemical and that reacts with ether glycol, 425 00:21:17,320 --> 00:21:19,919 Speaker 1: which is an anti freeze. So you've got to be 426 00:21:19,960 --> 00:21:22,239 Speaker 1: careful too with with those to drain and flush and 427 00:21:22,280 --> 00:21:26,520 Speaker 1: so on. But there are products which are at poor 428 00:21:26,600 --> 00:21:32,720 Speaker 1: and go solution. These don't react with the chemical chemicals 429 00:21:32,760 --> 00:21:35,800 Speaker 1: in the cooling system. You just shake it up, poured 430 00:21:35,840 --> 00:21:37,879 Speaker 1: in and away you go. You've got to be careful 431 00:21:37,920 --> 00:21:40,080 Speaker 1: to read the label look for the right products in 432 00:21:40,119 --> 00:21:45,640 Speaker 1: that particular case. Does engine construction the material some some 433 00:21:45,800 --> 00:21:48,000 Speaker 1: you know engines are aluminum engines are cast and iron 434 00:21:48,040 --> 00:21:50,520 Speaker 1: engines are I don't know. I'm waiting. I'm waiting for 435 00:21:50,560 --> 00:21:52,760 Speaker 1: the plastic engine to come out, but you know, it hasn't. 436 00:21:52,760 --> 00:21:54,600 Speaker 1: It hasn't hit yet that I'm aware of, although there 437 00:21:54,600 --> 00:21:59,080 Speaker 1: are plastic intake manifolds. UM. But does the engine material 438 00:21:59,119 --> 00:22:01,439 Speaker 1: the construction of it, Does that affect what type of 439 00:22:01,480 --> 00:22:03,840 Speaker 1: coin system? Or if you can use a coin system sealer. 440 00:22:05,400 --> 00:22:07,800 Speaker 1: UM again, Yet you've got to you've got to look 441 00:22:07,840 --> 00:22:12,199 Speaker 1: out for the right product. Yes, UM aluminum is is 442 00:22:12,240 --> 00:22:15,639 Speaker 1: now widely used in engine and silver the heads engine 443 00:22:15,680 --> 00:22:20,040 Speaker 1: blocks quite often though you might find that the internals 444 00:22:20,040 --> 00:22:22,520 Speaker 1: of the engine, the cylinder is actually lined with the 445 00:22:22,640 --> 00:22:26,920 Speaker 1: good old fashioned steel or something like that. But UM 446 00:22:26,960 --> 00:22:29,399 Speaker 1: just touching on casey or quickly, because that's what I 447 00:22:29,400 --> 00:22:33,439 Speaker 1: know about the important thing with that product is that 448 00:22:33,520 --> 00:22:36,159 Speaker 1: it doesn't matter what the engine is made of. It 449 00:22:36,160 --> 00:22:38,640 Speaker 1: doesn't matter what size the engine is, or if it's 450 00:22:38,680 --> 00:22:41,800 Speaker 1: sealing a plastic leak for example on a radiator casing 451 00:22:41,880 --> 00:22:46,600 Speaker 1: or something like that. UM the formula is is quite 452 00:22:46,600 --> 00:22:49,240 Speaker 1: happy wherever it's added. And that that's only it was 453 00:22:49,280 --> 00:22:52,120 Speaker 1: important when we were developing the product is to make 454 00:22:52,160 --> 00:22:56,240 Speaker 1: it straightforward, very simple. Just shake it, pour it in 455 00:22:56,320 --> 00:22:59,720 Speaker 1: a way you go. So there's it's it's taken the 456 00:23:00,119 --> 00:23:03,320 Speaker 1: complexity out of all the products. And I suppose sometimes now, 457 00:23:03,359 --> 00:23:04,960 Speaker 1: like in the case of that pontact that I was 458 00:23:05,000 --> 00:23:08,399 Speaker 1: working on that had multiple cooling system leaks over the 459 00:23:08,440 --> 00:23:10,639 Speaker 1: past couple of years. You know, it was a it 460 00:23:10,720 --> 00:23:12,919 Speaker 1: was a CP car. There's no other way to say it. 461 00:23:12,920 --> 00:23:14,840 Speaker 1: It had a little bit out of the radiator, it 462 00:23:14,880 --> 00:23:16,800 Speaker 1: had a little bit out of heat or hose connections, 463 00:23:16,840 --> 00:23:18,280 Speaker 1: It had a little bit out of the corner of 464 00:23:18,280 --> 00:23:20,360 Speaker 1: the one head gasket, It had a little bit out 465 00:23:20,359 --> 00:23:22,200 Speaker 1: of the crossover tube in the front of the motor. 466 00:23:22,240 --> 00:23:24,959 Speaker 1: I mean it just it was just a tired, dirty 467 00:23:25,000 --> 00:23:28,439 Speaker 1: cooling system that didn't get great maintenance. And that's what, 468 00:23:28,640 --> 00:23:30,760 Speaker 1: you know, led me to the conclusion, like you know, 469 00:23:30,840 --> 00:23:34,399 Speaker 1: let's just let's let's try sealing it. Um and it 470 00:23:34,440 --> 00:23:39,760 Speaker 1: and it worked. Now you know it's um. As you say, 471 00:23:39,800 --> 00:23:42,800 Speaker 1: you're working with so many different materials. Um, I guess 472 00:23:42,840 --> 00:23:44,960 Speaker 1: you've got to read the bottle and see what you're 473 00:23:45,000 --> 00:23:46,879 Speaker 1: working with in order to decide will that work in 474 00:23:46,880 --> 00:23:51,159 Speaker 1: your particular application. UM. Yeah, it is important to know 475 00:23:51,280 --> 00:23:55,399 Speaker 1: that you well. And the thing is, first of all, 476 00:23:55,480 --> 00:23:58,159 Speaker 1: you have to know what the leak is. And to 477 00:23:58,240 --> 00:24:01,000 Speaker 1: be honest, a lot of people out there will know 478 00:24:01,160 --> 00:24:03,840 Speaker 1: that they're losing cooler, but they won't know exactly where 479 00:24:03,840 --> 00:24:07,040 Speaker 1: the problem is. Then you go into the store and 480 00:24:07,080 --> 00:24:09,080 Speaker 1: you're looking on the shelf and this product for your 481 00:24:09,320 --> 00:24:12,000 Speaker 1: radiator leak. There's a product for a gasket leak. There's 482 00:24:12,040 --> 00:24:16,160 Speaker 1: a product for engine block or cylinder head leaks. Uh, 483 00:24:16,480 --> 00:24:21,480 Speaker 1: that just adds further to the confusion different different, different challenges. Mike, 484 00:24:21,560 --> 00:24:25,240 Speaker 1: I mean you know it's can are some products the 485 00:24:25,280 --> 00:24:27,520 Speaker 1: same that will do all three, that will do all 486 00:24:27,560 --> 00:24:29,879 Speaker 1: of those? Or is it are they still very specific 487 00:24:29,920 --> 00:24:34,119 Speaker 1: today that there's certainly now are products out there that 488 00:24:34,240 --> 00:24:37,679 Speaker 1: are able to seal different types of leak all in 489 00:24:37,720 --> 00:24:40,120 Speaker 1: one go. It's it's something that really we lead with 490 00:24:40,119 --> 00:24:43,280 Speaker 1: with k Seal fifteen years ago when we launched it 491 00:24:43,400 --> 00:24:46,439 Speaker 1: was we launched it and developed it as a multi 492 00:24:46,520 --> 00:24:50,440 Speaker 1: purpose call it leak repair. Again. It's to make that 493 00:24:51,840 --> 00:24:54,199 Speaker 1: choice or decision as easy as possible for the for 494 00:24:54,240 --> 00:24:56,840 Speaker 1: the motorist to go and say, right, I don't really 495 00:24:56,880 --> 00:24:58,959 Speaker 1: know what my leak is. I don't really know what 496 00:24:59,000 --> 00:25:01,679 Speaker 1: my engine made of. Now this product here is a 497 00:25:01,760 --> 00:25:06,679 Speaker 1: multi purpose coolantly prepare. That's it. Um. You don't have 498 00:25:06,720 --> 00:25:09,200 Speaker 1: to worry which formula you have got, what engine you 499 00:25:09,200 --> 00:25:12,080 Speaker 1: you're running, what few, what type of fuel you're running, 500 00:25:12,080 --> 00:25:14,919 Speaker 1: whatever it is, it's just shake it up, pour it in, 501 00:25:15,640 --> 00:25:19,080 Speaker 1: and away you go. Solution. Um. It's something that became 502 00:25:19,200 --> 00:25:24,480 Speaker 1: very popular with the roadside recovery organizations over here in 503 00:25:24,600 --> 00:25:27,239 Speaker 1: the UK and Europe, a number of them actually use 504 00:25:27,320 --> 00:25:31,160 Speaker 1: k seal specifically because they can just pour it straight 505 00:25:31,200 --> 00:25:34,920 Speaker 1: in without having to worry you know what the engine is, 506 00:25:34,960 --> 00:25:36,720 Speaker 1: what the cooling is in there, what other additives are 507 00:25:36,720 --> 00:25:39,480 Speaker 1: in there and so on. What sort of tricks are there, Mike. 508 00:25:39,760 --> 00:25:42,919 Speaker 1: You know you'll have a system that may be over pressurizing. 509 00:25:42,920 --> 00:25:45,120 Speaker 1: Maybe you've got a head gas at leak and it's 510 00:25:45,119 --> 00:25:47,119 Speaker 1: got the system under pressure. How do you get the 511 00:25:47,160 --> 00:25:49,119 Speaker 1: sealer to stay in to allow it to get to 512 00:25:49,160 --> 00:25:53,720 Speaker 1: the leak to the failure to actually make the seal. Yeah, 513 00:25:53,760 --> 00:25:57,000 Speaker 1: that's that's tricky. These these problems. Well, first of all, 514 00:25:57,040 --> 00:25:59,400 Speaker 1: this you're talking about one of the most expensive problems 515 00:25:59,800 --> 00:26:02,199 Speaker 1: if you if you would have fixed it. So if 516 00:26:02,240 --> 00:26:04,879 Speaker 1: you've got a clunker, then you want to try and 517 00:26:04,960 --> 00:26:07,760 Speaker 1: solve it. Um If you add the product into the 518 00:26:07,800 --> 00:26:10,399 Speaker 1: reservoir and you've got over pressurizing, then it could easily 519 00:26:10,400 --> 00:26:13,720 Speaker 1: get stuck there or even pushed out. So the trick 520 00:26:13,840 --> 00:26:16,480 Speaker 1: is the bypass the reservoir, drain a bit of cool 521 00:26:16,560 --> 00:26:19,320 Speaker 1: and mix it with K seal, pour it back in, 522 00:26:20,200 --> 00:26:22,360 Speaker 1: or or take the topos off the radiator and add 523 00:26:22,359 --> 00:26:25,679 Speaker 1: it there. And another really good trick this This works 524 00:26:25,720 --> 00:26:28,399 Speaker 1: you know with with with a number of seilers, but 525 00:26:28,480 --> 00:26:32,119 Speaker 1: obviously it works just as well with k seal, is 526 00:26:32,160 --> 00:26:35,800 Speaker 1: that you identify where the problem cylinder is. Where is 527 00:26:35,840 --> 00:26:39,600 Speaker 1: that the failure between the corning system and the cylinder 528 00:26:39,640 --> 00:26:43,120 Speaker 1: that's allowing gases back in, and then isolate that cylinder, 529 00:26:43,160 --> 00:26:46,159 Speaker 1: take the spark plug out. That reduces the pressure and 530 00:26:46,240 --> 00:26:49,639 Speaker 1: gives the sealer a better chance of getting into that crack. 531 00:26:50,119 --> 00:26:52,199 Speaker 1: And in the case of k CEL wants it's in 532 00:26:52,240 --> 00:26:56,400 Speaker 1: the crack those ceramic fibers and the other clever ingredients 533 00:26:56,400 --> 00:26:59,560 Speaker 1: in their meshed together and they make a very strong 534 00:26:59,600 --> 00:27:02,640 Speaker 1: repair that can then hold back the pressure and make 535 00:27:02,680 --> 00:27:04,600 Speaker 1: a seal on a head gasket. You know, Mike, I'm 536 00:27:04,640 --> 00:27:06,360 Speaker 1: sure you get this question a lot. You've been doing 537 00:27:06,359 --> 00:27:08,720 Speaker 1: this fifteen years and you you you travel around the 538 00:27:08,760 --> 00:27:12,200 Speaker 1: world talking about k seal and cooling system weeks. Um 539 00:27:12,560 --> 00:27:15,119 Speaker 1: what I did? All right? You know, the instance of 540 00:27:15,160 --> 00:27:17,639 Speaker 1: repairing the engine like this or putting in some stealer 541 00:27:17,680 --> 00:27:20,119 Speaker 1: instead of repairing the engine. Did it makes doesn't make 542 00:27:20,160 --> 00:27:21,960 Speaker 1: sense to you? I mean not, You're not the guy 543 00:27:22,000 --> 00:27:23,520 Speaker 1: that just wants to sell the bottle of the sealer. 544 00:27:23,560 --> 00:27:25,400 Speaker 1: I think you have your your heart and this you're 545 00:27:25,480 --> 00:27:27,399 Speaker 1: you're really trying to do the right thing and help people. 546 00:27:27,440 --> 00:27:30,320 Speaker 1: But um it was the right thing to do, wasn't it. 547 00:27:31,600 --> 00:27:35,840 Speaker 1: Um it is? Yeah. The first the first vehicle I 548 00:27:35,880 --> 00:27:39,200 Speaker 1: ever used it on was an old Ford van and 549 00:27:39,480 --> 00:27:42,800 Speaker 1: it belonged to a friend of mine. He was a 550 00:27:42,840 --> 00:27:46,720 Speaker 1: patron decorator and he needed that van, but it was 551 00:27:46,760 --> 00:27:49,000 Speaker 1: on its last legs. So I thought, look, if we're 552 00:27:49,000 --> 00:27:51,679 Speaker 1: going to try this is the very first development bottle 553 00:27:52,080 --> 00:27:54,160 Speaker 1: put it on his put it in his cooling system, 554 00:27:54,760 --> 00:27:58,720 Speaker 1: and what it did was ah, the white smoked the 555 00:27:58,760 --> 00:28:00,879 Speaker 1: steam that was coming out the back of his tail pipe. 556 00:28:01,680 --> 00:28:04,480 Speaker 1: Within a few minutes that disappeared, the engine started running 557 00:28:04,480 --> 00:28:07,280 Speaker 1: smoother again, and he got another six months out of 558 00:28:07,280 --> 00:28:10,600 Speaker 1: that van. He was just starting out on his own. 559 00:28:10,600 --> 00:28:13,320 Speaker 1: He got another six months out of that van. Um 560 00:28:13,320 --> 00:28:14,920 Speaker 1: and that got him set up and up and running. 561 00:28:14,960 --> 00:28:17,879 Speaker 1: And then he got himself a newer van, partly because 562 00:28:17,880 --> 00:28:20,040 Speaker 1: the brakes failed and he went straight on at the junction. 563 00:28:20,119 --> 00:28:24,880 Speaker 1: But that was there was another story exactly the kind 564 00:28:24,920 --> 00:28:28,920 Speaker 1: of vehicle that k seal is perfect for. Where it's 565 00:28:29,560 --> 00:28:33,440 Speaker 1: it's old, it's not really worth anything. You can't justify 566 00:28:33,560 --> 00:28:38,320 Speaker 1: spending hundreds or potentially thousands of dollars fixing a vehicle 567 00:28:38,360 --> 00:28:41,200 Speaker 1: of that value, So great, get it back on the 568 00:28:41,240 --> 00:28:44,719 Speaker 1: road for the time being with some k seal until 569 00:28:45,040 --> 00:28:49,800 Speaker 1: you are in a position to to replace or potentially 570 00:28:49,880 --> 00:28:53,320 Speaker 1: repair that vehicle um or you know it. Maybe you 571 00:28:53,400 --> 00:28:56,880 Speaker 1: just haven't quite got the funds this month to take 572 00:28:56,880 --> 00:28:59,640 Speaker 1: it to the workshop, So Casey will keep you on 573 00:28:59,680 --> 00:29:02,520 Speaker 1: the road until you've got enough cash and then you 574 00:29:02,560 --> 00:29:05,080 Speaker 1: go and get that repair done. And we should and 575 00:29:05,120 --> 00:29:08,320 Speaker 1: we should point out the van lasted six months, not 576 00:29:08,360 --> 00:29:11,040 Speaker 1: because the cooling system failed, the brakes failed, and didn't 577 00:29:11,040 --> 00:29:14,800 Speaker 1: want to spend some money on the brakes. Yeah, absolutely so, 578 00:29:14,960 --> 00:29:17,560 Speaker 1: but it gave him that breeding space, and that's that's 579 00:29:17,600 --> 00:29:19,480 Speaker 1: the key thing. So, yeah, you're not going to put 580 00:29:19,520 --> 00:29:22,720 Speaker 1: it in a a brand new BMW or Mercedes or 581 00:29:22,760 --> 00:29:25,600 Speaker 1: whatever it is. Of course that's going to be under warranty. 582 00:29:25,800 --> 00:29:27,400 Speaker 1: So you take that back to the dealer and say, 583 00:29:27,960 --> 00:29:30,960 Speaker 1: you guys need to fix this. But when it's a 584 00:29:31,040 --> 00:29:33,240 Speaker 1: ten year old, fifteen year old, twenty year old car, 585 00:29:33,720 --> 00:29:37,360 Speaker 1: you know, truck, whatever it might be, then then that's 586 00:29:37,360 --> 00:29:42,080 Speaker 1: where k seal has really been successful with another specific 587 00:29:42,520 --> 00:29:45,560 Speaker 1: incident when not not long after we launched it, the 588 00:29:45,680 --> 00:29:48,480 Speaker 1: range Over guys in the UK here the Ranger Over 589 00:29:48,560 --> 00:29:51,640 Speaker 1: Club picked up on it. They were suffering from poorest 590 00:29:51,680 --> 00:29:54,240 Speaker 1: blocks on the old pre b m w V eight 591 00:29:54,440 --> 00:29:59,040 Speaker 1: that they were running the P thirty eight, and a 592 00:29:59,080 --> 00:30:01,680 Speaker 1: poorest block usually meant a new block. But these guys 593 00:30:01,680 --> 00:30:05,440 Speaker 1: were running old sort of classic cars, you know, there 594 00:30:06,240 --> 00:30:09,240 Speaker 1: were hobby cars and a bottle of case. You'll fix 595 00:30:09,320 --> 00:30:11,480 Speaker 1: that porous block and got them back on the road. 596 00:30:11,960 --> 00:30:14,440 Speaker 1: Or it was four to five thousand dollars for a 597 00:30:14,480 --> 00:30:18,160 Speaker 1: new block. And guess which one, right, guess which one 598 00:30:18,200 --> 00:30:21,320 Speaker 1: worked better? Hey, Mike and ours in our last minute? Um, 599 00:30:21,360 --> 00:30:24,600 Speaker 1: can you just talk about a s t MD And 600 00:30:24,640 --> 00:30:26,440 Speaker 1: for those out there, I'm not talking about a new 601 00:30:26,720 --> 00:30:28,640 Speaker 1: star I'm not talking about a new actor in the 602 00:30:28,640 --> 00:30:31,800 Speaker 1: new Star Wars movie. It's uh. That's a standard of cooling, right, 603 00:30:32,000 --> 00:30:34,520 Speaker 1: can you talk about that real quick? It is? Yeah, 604 00:30:34,560 --> 00:30:38,239 Speaker 1: it's the standard for measuring the performance of coolant leak 605 00:30:38,280 --> 00:30:42,400 Speaker 1: repair products. It basically it says a product should seal 606 00:30:42,440 --> 00:30:44,920 Speaker 1: a hole up to a certain size. It happens to 607 00:30:44,920 --> 00:30:47,720 Speaker 1: be point six of a millimeter, which is a big 608 00:30:47,800 --> 00:30:50,440 Speaker 1: leak in calling system terms. But it has to also 609 00:30:50,560 --> 00:30:52,960 Speaker 1: flow through a filter or a mesh of point eight 610 00:30:53,040 --> 00:30:55,520 Speaker 1: five mills. So not a big difference there, but that's 611 00:30:55,560 --> 00:30:58,360 Speaker 1: important because then you know that the product will not 612 00:30:58,480 --> 00:31:03,080 Speaker 1: clog or block even the arrowist passageways in the cooling system. Um, 613 00:31:03,120 --> 00:31:06,120 Speaker 1: that standard is out there. I have to say I'm 614 00:31:06,120 --> 00:31:09,680 Speaker 1: proud that case is the only product that's independently university 615 00:31:09,760 --> 00:31:14,600 Speaker 1: tested to meet that American standard. So that means, you know, 616 00:31:14,760 --> 00:31:17,360 Speaker 1: don't take our work for it. It is. We'll fix 617 00:31:17,440 --> 00:31:19,120 Speaker 1: the leak when it should and it will flow when 618 00:31:19,160 --> 00:31:21,040 Speaker 1: it shouldn't. It's on the books. Hey, Mike, we're going 619 00:31:21,080 --> 00:31:24,640 Speaker 1: to listeners get more information. They can head over to 620 00:31:24,640 --> 00:31:28,960 Speaker 1: our website which is www dot k seal dot com, 621 00:31:29,080 --> 00:31:31,840 Speaker 1: and we're out there on Facebook as well and Twitter 622 00:31:32,040 --> 00:31:35,479 Speaker 1: and all those places, all those things. All right, Hey, listen, Mike, 623 00:31:35,520 --> 00:31:37,280 Speaker 1: I appreciate you taking time out of your day and 624 00:31:37,520 --> 00:31:40,080 Speaker 1: thanks for making a great product. I appreciate it, and 625 00:31:40,120 --> 00:31:41,560 Speaker 1: I think a lot of people out there due to 626 00:31:41,640 --> 00:31:43,080 Speaker 1: when we're going to do our best to inform and 627 00:31:43,200 --> 00:31:46,400 Speaker 1: educate everyone. All right, sir, thank you, Ron, thanks for 628 00:31:46,440 --> 00:31:48,000 Speaker 1: your time. You're very welcome. You have a great day. 629 00:31:48,040 --> 00:31:49,640 Speaker 1: I'm running any of the Card Doctor and we are 630 00:31:49,680 --> 00:31:56,880 Speaker 1: back right after this. Welcome back. We're on any of 631 00:31:56,880 --> 00:31:58,480 Speaker 1: the Card Doctor, and once again, thanks for the folks 632 00:31:58,480 --> 00:32:01,120 Speaker 1: from Casey. I'll taking the time today. We you uh 633 00:32:01,160 --> 00:32:03,959 Speaker 1: you know, it's it's it's it's great stuff. We've had 634 00:32:04,080 --> 00:32:06,880 Speaker 1: very good success with it, and his points are timely 635 00:32:06,920 --> 00:32:09,880 Speaker 1: and I think on target, and I welcome any comments 636 00:32:09,880 --> 00:32:11,680 Speaker 1: and thoughts from anyone else out there. We're always looking 637 00:32:11,720 --> 00:32:13,640 Speaker 1: to look at it from both sides. So let's real 638 00:32:13,720 --> 00:32:16,120 Speaker 1: quick over and say, hey, Paul, North Minnesota, Paul, how 639 00:32:16,160 --> 00:32:24,720 Speaker 1: are you today, Sir Paul? Anyway, Yeah, semi retired after 640 00:32:24,760 --> 00:32:26,960 Speaker 1: forty two years, but I'm still getting calls from the 641 00:32:26,960 --> 00:32:29,440 Speaker 1: dealership up here in the Great White North. Yeah. Yeah, 642 00:32:29,440 --> 00:32:34,520 Speaker 1: that's why when Tom Sea and I said to Tom, 643 00:32:34,560 --> 00:32:36,600 Speaker 1: Tom said, Paul from North Minnesota's and I said, that's 644 00:32:36,600 --> 00:32:39,560 Speaker 1: the senior fordech from Minnesota that listen to us. I'll 645 00:32:39,560 --> 00:32:41,240 Speaker 1: tell you what Paul, I brought you. I just wantn't 646 00:32:41,240 --> 00:32:42,920 Speaker 1: you reduce you real quick, sit tight, let me pull 647 00:32:42,960 --> 00:32:44,280 Speaker 1: over and take this pause, and I just want to 648 00:32:44,360 --> 00:32:46,400 Speaker 1: leave you on hold and we'll be right back. We'll 649 00:32:46,440 --> 00:32:48,640 Speaker 1: talk about your question and comments. So I'm running any 650 00:32:48,640 --> 00:32:50,239 Speaker 1: of the car doctor, don't go way. We're back right 651 00:32:50,280 --> 00:32:58,080 Speaker 1: after this. Hey, Paul, welcome back, Paul. You there, sir, sir. Oh, 652 00:32:58,200 --> 00:33:00,000 Speaker 1: let's do this quick, babe. I got about two minutes. 653 00:33:00,040 --> 00:33:02,280 Speaker 1: What's on your mind? I know I'm watching I'm watching 654 00:33:02,280 --> 00:33:05,520 Speaker 1: the clock here anyway at thirty one below tonight up here, 655 00:33:06,240 --> 00:33:08,520 Speaker 1: and it's the old plug the block eater. And if 656 00:33:08,520 --> 00:33:11,680 Speaker 1: you're hoping for the vest, yeah, absolutely so. Yeah, and 657 00:33:11,800 --> 00:33:15,280 Speaker 1: synthetic oil is really good for that. Anyhow, a k 658 00:33:15,560 --> 00:33:17,920 Speaker 1: seal give them. I didn't know that was coming up. 659 00:33:18,320 --> 00:33:21,080 Speaker 1: I cared what you get. You get high. I think 660 00:33:21,120 --> 00:33:25,640 Speaker 1: you've seen a high miler four six forwards with the 661 00:33:25,760 --> 00:33:30,320 Speaker 1: unexplained it. Uh, you know head gas leaks. The k 662 00:33:30,560 --> 00:33:35,760 Speaker 1: SEAL does wonders on that versus dealing with warped heads 663 00:33:35,840 --> 00:33:40,000 Speaker 1: on two hundred plus thousand mile pickups. You know it 664 00:33:40,040 --> 00:33:44,960 Speaker 1: does work. You got a witness here. Yeah, and I 665 00:33:45,040 --> 00:33:47,480 Speaker 1: oh and I had another one. Yeah, the thing you 666 00:33:47,520 --> 00:33:51,000 Speaker 1: had earlier. Labor rates in the dealership set well, the 667 00:33:51,040 --> 00:33:55,880 Speaker 1: expensive training and overhead like you addressed, and equipment costs, 668 00:33:56,000 --> 00:33:59,520 Speaker 1: and you are quite aware of that. Also another one, 669 00:33:59,520 --> 00:34:01,000 Speaker 1: a quick one for you and I don't know if 670 00:34:01,000 --> 00:34:05,440 Speaker 1: you're doing any diesel work. And our beloved six leader 671 00:34:05,560 --> 00:34:08,960 Speaker 1: diesel with cool and lost the first thing you could 672 00:34:09,000 --> 00:34:11,800 Speaker 1: do and it's very cheap and talking about aftermarket parts. 673 00:34:11,960 --> 00:34:18,040 Speaker 1: Put a stant radiator cap on it fixed? Why is that? 674 00:34:19,760 --> 00:34:26,800 Speaker 1: Because of the motorcraft radiator cap made in India is terrible, 675 00:34:28,000 --> 00:34:30,080 Speaker 1: you know. And everybody, Oh, I got blown head gas. 676 00:34:30,120 --> 00:34:33,480 Speaker 1: It's all the oil cooler shot. Put a good quality 677 00:34:33,600 --> 00:34:40,560 Speaker 1: stant radiator cap on it and revisit. Yeah, I can 678 00:34:40,600 --> 00:34:46,160 Speaker 1: believe that one. Yeah, absolutely absolutely. Hey, babe, the clocks. 679 00:34:46,239 --> 00:34:48,399 Speaker 1: You gotta call me earlier in the hour. Next time. 680 00:34:48,960 --> 00:34:51,040 Speaker 1: I will do that, sir. You know, I'm always glad 681 00:34:51,080 --> 00:34:53,040 Speaker 1: to talk to you. And Tom said you were surprised. 682 00:34:53,320 --> 00:34:56,080 Speaker 1: I remember exactly who you remember when my caller's bed. Um, 683 00:34:56,120 --> 00:34:57,800 Speaker 1: you have yourself a good happy New Year, Paul, and 684 00:34:57,800 --> 00:34:59,440 Speaker 1: I'm glad you're still out there. I'm glad you made 685 00:34:59,480 --> 00:35:01,640 Speaker 1: it to retire. And uh when you come to New 686 00:35:01,719 --> 00:35:03,680 Speaker 1: Jersey stuff. But I we'll have lunch one day. I'm 687 00:35:03,760 --> 00:35:05,919 Speaker 1: running anying the card occup wishing everybody a good, healthy, 688 00:35:05,960 --> 00:35:07,920 Speaker 1: happy New Year until the next time we get together. 689 00:35:08,120 --> 00:35:11,000 Speaker 1: Good mechanics aren't expensive. They're priceless. Let's see it