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<v Speaker 1>It is Thursday, February twenty second. This is Jaguars Happy Hour.

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<v Speaker 2>Cheer and not even a close second in fact, Welcome in.

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<v Speaker 2>It's Jaguars Happy Hour on this Thursday. It's February twenty second.

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<v Speaker 2>We've got a busy hour ahead. Coaching staff has been

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<v Speaker 2>announced today. The assistant coaches, most of them on defense,

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<v Speaker 2>announced by the Jaguars officially, though they have been around

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<v Speaker 2>for a little bit. Apparently the official announcement earlier will

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<v Speaker 2>go through those guys. The scouting combine next week in Indianapolis.

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<v Speaker 2>We'll get to some of the things we have in

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<v Speaker 2>store on Jaguars dot Com and Jaguars Radio next week.

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<v Speaker 2>And it's always a kind of the reset building into

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<v Speaker 2>the next year. We will keep it real as we

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<v Speaker 2>always do on Jaguars Happy Hour. And our Microsoft social

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<v Speaker 2>media questions came in hot and heavy today. We've got

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<v Speaker 2>answers to those questions. Maybe J P. Shadwick with you,

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<v Speaker 2>Glad you're with us today on Jaguars Happy Hour. Brought

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<v Speaker 2>Florida's water It's worth saving Jeff Loghman out Today. We're

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<v Speaker 2>on TINTINEXL, Jaguars dot Com and Jaguars YouTube. Jaguars dot Com.

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<v Speaker 2>Senior writer John Osiers steps in the valiantly good afternoon.

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<v Speaker 3>What season is it?

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<v Speaker 2>Is?

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<v Speaker 3>It is Jeff killing something or it's a great question.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think it's Turkey season.

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<v Speaker 3>Usually when he's not here, something innocent.

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<v Speaker 2>Dear season. I don't know. Yeah, but we all eat

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<v Speaker 2>well a few months after that whenever he's gone.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, happy to be here, great.

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<v Speaker 2>Thanks for coming in. We appreciate that. And a lot

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<v Speaker 2>going on. Of course, I'm really starting to build up.

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<v Speaker 2>It hasn't really been happening the last month or so,

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<v Speaker 2>but it's felt like it's starting to build toward. Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>the combine next week. They've announced the coaching staff. Here's

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<v Speaker 2>the tag, windows open, they've got a cut players at

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<v Speaker 2>some point. We'll get to all that and the schedule

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<v Speaker 2>ahead coming up in just a little bit. But one

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<v Speaker 2>of the biggest priorities was getting the coaching staff finalized.

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<v Speaker 2>After making a bunch of cuts, certainly on the defensive

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<v Speaker 2>side of the football. The Jaguars today announced all the

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<v Speaker 2>assistant coaches here in the twenty twenty four season and beyond,

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<v Speaker 2>including Ryan Nielson, who spoke with the media last week

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<v Speaker 2>and you know, he was asked, Hey, when are you

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<v Speaker 2>finalizing the staff, and he kind of looked over to

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<v Speaker 2>the pr staff for the right He's like, well, they're here,

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<v Speaker 2>but we'll get to, you know, the finalization of that

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<v Speaker 2>coming up. Well it's here. Now. What does Nielsen think

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<v Speaker 2>of the staff that he's hired?

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<v Speaker 4>Excited about the guys work with, some of them haven't

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<v Speaker 4>worked with, other coached a few, and so it's just

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<v Speaker 4>it's a great group of guys that been very close

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<v Speaker 4>to know that first and foremost good men. Secondly, really

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<v Speaker 4>good teachers, teachers of the game, and so when you

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<v Speaker 4>put those two things together, you know they're eager and excited.

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<v Speaker 4>We see a lot of similarities John.

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<v Speaker 2>We'll go through the names here in a moment, but

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<v Speaker 2>it's a mix of guys that he either coached or

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<v Speaker 2>was with in other places and a couple of guys

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<v Speaker 2>that may not have been even involved in that process before.

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<v Speaker 2>But starting with defensive backs coach Chris Richard. That'll be

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<v Speaker 2>a focal point I think a lot, because hey, that

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<v Speaker 2>secondary is a big piece of what they're gonna do

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<v Speaker 2>obviously on the defensive side of the ball. Chris Richard

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<v Speaker 2>serving as the defensive backs coach seventeen years of NFL

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<v Speaker 2>coaching and playing experience. He was with Nielsen with the

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<v Speaker 2>Saints in twenty twenty two, so a couple of years

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<v Speaker 2>ago when they were fifth in total defense and played

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<v Speaker 2>thirty eight games in the NFL. Let's start with that.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, this is you know, if you look at

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of the needs the lists for the Jaguars,

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<v Speaker 2>cornerback is right up there the top.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and the defensive backs coach overall, a lot of

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<v Speaker 3>people believe it's the most important secondary. I mean, I

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<v Speaker 3>do the most important assistant defense position now because realistically

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<v Speaker 3>the front seven is much simpler by comparison, You're scheming

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<v Speaker 3>more in the back. The defensive coordinator in this case

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<v Speaker 3>is a is a front seven guy, a defensive line guy.

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<v Speaker 3>So so what will depend on the back seven? You

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<v Speaker 3>hear good things, I mean, it will depends on the

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<v Speaker 3>secondary coach. You hear good things about Chris Richard, You

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<v Speaker 3>hear good things about the entire staff. I'm not going

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<v Speaker 3>to sit here and pretend to know exactly how he's

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<v Speaker 3>going to approach things. To me, the important thing about

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<v Speaker 3>the defensive assistants are are they on the same page

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<v Speaker 3>as the defensive coordinator you would think starting off they are?

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<v Speaker 3>Can they get buy in from the players beyond that?

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<v Speaker 3>You know me, JP, I don't particularly overemphasize assistant coaches

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<v Speaker 3>in turn philosophy. It's mainly do the guys in the

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<v Speaker 3>room believe what these guys are saying? And can they

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<v Speaker 3>translate with the defensive coordinator once I'm gonna trust they can't.

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<v Speaker 2>Another secondary addition defensive assistant and cornerbacks coach Corey Robinson. Well,

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<v Speaker 2>Robinson comes in from the University of Tennessee the volunteers,

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<v Speaker 2>but he spent three years with the Saints and Hents.

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<v Speaker 2>The connection guys with Ryan Nielsen. And then another assistant

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<v Speaker 2>secondary coach and defensive analyst is Mike Gray, so that

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<v Speaker 2>completes the secondary staff. Matt House the inside linebackers coach.

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<v Speaker 2>He was two years with LSU and the Tigers were

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<v Speaker 2>the top tackling team in the SEC sixth and total

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<v Speaker 2>defense and was with the Chiefs for three years before that,

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<v Speaker 2>so he's been around the league for a little bit

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<v Speaker 2>and he'll have his hands on the inside linebackers. That's

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<v Speaker 2>obviously a huge focus of this defense.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and Devin Lloyd to me, is a huge key

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<v Speaker 3>for this defense. Can they get the most out of him?

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<v Speaker 2>Uh?

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<v Speaker 3>Can they get him playing at a high level in

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<v Speaker 3>terms of, uh, maybe not making the mistakes that he

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<v Speaker 3>makes when he's keyed on? And Uh, so that's a

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<v Speaker 3>big deal Foroyer Lucon. You know, to me, seems like

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<v Speaker 3>the kind of guy, no matter who's coaching him, is

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<v Speaker 3>going to bring his a game to the table and

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<v Speaker 3>be able to adapt a veteran of the game. Can

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<v Speaker 3>they reach Devin Lloyd? Uh? You know, I assume they can.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, I think there'll be a focus and uh,

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<v Speaker 3>we'll see. I'm not sure. Can an assistant make him

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<v Speaker 3>make tackles? Can have him in the right gaps? We'll see.

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<v Speaker 2>We will find out. Defensive line coaches Jeremy Garrett and Garretts,

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<v Speaker 2>a guy who actually played for Nielsen at Old Miss

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<v Speaker 2>when Nielsen was a defensive line coach for the Rebels

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<v Speaker 2>that was from four to seven, and the ed Orgeron

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<v Speaker 2>years at Old Miss. Sure, it's a long long time

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<v Speaker 2>ago and most recently been at Auburn last season, but

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<v Speaker 2>has some time in the NFL as a coach with

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<v Speaker 2>the Cleveland Brown So defensive line, there's a at least

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<v Speaker 2>coming into this offseason, a lot of players with a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of big contracts up here in the middle of

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<v Speaker 2>this defensive line. We'll see who's around. It feels like

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<v Speaker 2>they're all going to have to be back because of

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<v Speaker 2>the dead cap numbers. So he's got some guys to

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<v Speaker 2>work with and they've got to get stouder and bigger

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<v Speaker 2>up front.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and that's a curious spot to me because Devon Hamilton,

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<v Speaker 3>you have to trust will come back and be better

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<v Speaker 3>than he was last year with the back injury. I mean,

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<v Speaker 3>with the back issue, we're going to assume that that

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<v Speaker 3>rights itself fully. Fight Acasi in two years since being

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<v Speaker 3>signed as an interstrict free agent has been inconsistent at best.

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<v Speaker 3>So can they get out of him? Do they want

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<v Speaker 3>him back? The cap numbers suggests they might have to

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<v Speaker 3>somewhere up front. You need better stouter play where Robertson

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<v Speaker 3>Harrison will be back because of his contract, So do

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<v Speaker 3>they add somebody in there is something they want to address.

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<v Speaker 3>Can you add somebody? If Photocosi is back to me,

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<v Speaker 3>it's a huge storyline. They have to be better and

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<v Speaker 3>stouter than they were at the end of the season

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<v Speaker 3>in order to be a better run defense because at

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<v Speaker 3>the end of the season last year they couldn't stop

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<v Speaker 3>the run, which was absolutely opposite of what they were

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<v Speaker 3>early in the season. How do they get there? Maybe

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<v Speaker 3>it's coaching.

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<v Speaker 2>Remember Bill Shuey was one of the coaches retained from

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<v Speaker 2>the defensive staff, the outside linebackers coach. He has an

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<v Speaker 2>assistant with him now, Mario Jebriel, So he joins the

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<v Speaker 2>staff and helps out Shoey with some of the big

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<v Speaker 2>time names obviously in Trayvon Walker and Josh Allen. If

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<v Speaker 2>they can figure out the situation with Josh and the

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<v Speaker 2>contract going into free agency.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I'm gonna we have more to say about that.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm going forward.

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<v Speaker 3>I think they'll be coaching Josh Allen, Bill shoe You know,

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<v Speaker 3>if Bill Shoey, if he had anything to do with

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<v Speaker 3>the twenty seven point five sacks, good for keeping him.

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<v Speaker 2>Out about that.

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<v Speaker 3>So obviously did the job.

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<v Speaker 2>Ten Tonight's l JP Shadwick with John Oser, we're going

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<v Speaker 2>through the additions to the coaching staff for twenty twenty

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<v Speaker 2>four and a few offensive additions as well. Bertie Parmally

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<v Speaker 2>no longer the running backs coach, and Jerry Mack officially

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<v Speaker 2>announced as a running backs coach for the Jacksonville Jaguars

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<v Speaker 2>his first season in the National Football League. Twenty years

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<v Speaker 2>in college football. He was with the University of Tennessee

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<v Speaker 2>the last three seasons, and they were number one in

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<v Speaker 2>rushing in the Southeastern Conference a year ago and two

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<v Speaker 2>years ago we were the best offense in college football.

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<v Speaker 2>He threw the ball around a good bit that two

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<v Speaker 2>years ago, but fantastic career in college football. Now take

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<v Speaker 2>in that step and we've seen a little bit of

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<v Speaker 2>that trend. There was a lot of kind of buzz

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<v Speaker 2>on X today of some national reporters talking about how

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<v Speaker 2>many college coaches are jumping out of college and trying

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<v Speaker 2>to get back to the NFL to get away from

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<v Speaker 2>some of this nil and off the field backs in college,

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<v Speaker 2>and that's that can be real. We haven't talked to

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<v Speaker 2>Jerry mack about that, but hey, it is a different style,

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<v Speaker 2>a different schedule year round, and Jerry mcnow gets his

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<v Speaker 2>first NFL chance.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, if you were a college coach when you went

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<v Speaker 3>out to I mean it's a mess. So I again,

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<v Speaker 3>I have no idea if that's why Jerry mac want

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<v Speaker 3>it out or want it in. Look running backs coach.

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<v Speaker 3>He has a great resume. You would assume that a

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<v Speaker 3>big part of it will be working with Tank Bigsby,

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<v Speaker 3>trying to get the running backs up to speed in

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<v Speaker 3>terms of pass blocking, in terms of steps to the

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<v Speaker 3>line of scrimmage, detail things. His resume is great. The

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<v Speaker 3>task to me for the running backs coach is making

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<v Speaker 3>sure you get more out of Bigsby than he did

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<v Speaker 3>last year. They like him as a runner, he was

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<v Speaker 3>not ready last year in third down situations or in

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<v Speaker 3>passing situations. That's not unusual for a rookie running back

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<v Speaker 3>at all, but it's something that you need to be

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<v Speaker 3>able to do to get on the field in big situations.

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<v Speaker 3>I would think that's a huge task for the running

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<v Speaker 3>backs coach.

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<v Speaker 2>With Tank Bigsby, Yeah, they didn't have a consistent option

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<v Speaker 2>outside of traves et.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and you know, it's so tough situation. It's so

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<v Speaker 3>tough to judge the position. I got a lot of

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<v Speaker 3>questions about what the running backs they struggled last year.

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<v Speaker 3>Etn's numbers dropped in terms of yards per carry three

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<v Speaker 3>point eight from I think I think it was five

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<v Speaker 3>point one in twenty twenty two. I put those kind

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<v Speaker 3>of numbers more on the offensive line than I do

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<v Speaker 3>the backs. To me, backs can usually run if they

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<v Speaker 3>have room.

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<v Speaker 2>In the NFL, Phil Rousser is still the offensive line coach,

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<v Speaker 2>but he has a new assistant this year, Greg Austin promoted.

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<v Speaker 2>He was a quality control coach last year for the

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<v Speaker 2>Jaguars on the offensive side, but now the assistant offensive

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<v Speaker 2>line coach for the Jaguars. So Austin will get his

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<v Speaker 2>hands a little more on this Jaguars offensive line. We're

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<v Speaker 2>expecting some moving parts in this offseason, and it all

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<v Speaker 2>starts right there for this offense.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, offensive line to me is we could easily spend

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<v Speaker 3>an hour a week until free agency talking about the

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<v Speaker 3>offensive line because there are so many different directions they

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<v Speaker 3>could go. Are they going to do anything with the

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<v Speaker 3>center position? Are you going to bring Cam Robinson back?

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<v Speaker 3>And if you do or don't, that could mean an

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<v Speaker 3>entirely new combination starting there, meaning Anton Harrison on the

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<v Speaker 3>left and walk a little on the right. Or he

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<v Speaker 3>could mean the same combination meaning Robinson on the left

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<v Speaker 3>and Anton Harrison on the right. I assume Brandon Sheriff

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<v Speaker 3>isn't back because of contract. What does that mean for

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<v Speaker 3>Cooper Hodges? Do they trust him coming in? I you

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<v Speaker 3>and I could probably both list out five different starting

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<v Speaker 3>combinations right now that we predict for week one, and

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<v Speaker 3>one of us could be right when it's gonna be

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<v Speaker 3>completely I mean, and I would flip a coin right

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<v Speaker 3>now on what that might look like in terms of

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<v Speaker 3>it being right. There's a whatever that number is. You

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<v Speaker 3>start multiplying combinations, you know, it could get to be

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<v Speaker 3>five million different chances. I don't know if it's that,

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<v Speaker 3>but there's a lot of different chances on this offensive line,

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<v Speaker 3>but it's got to be better.

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<v Speaker 2>And one final edition. Jamel Matunga is the offensive quality

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<v Speaker 2>control coach. Congratulations to him last season with the Carolina

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<v Speaker 2>Panthers as an offensive assistant, trying to work his way

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<v Speaker 2>up in the coaching ran in the National Football League.

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<v Speaker 2>So there you have it. The coaching staff announced the Jaguars,

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<v Speaker 2>and yeah, there is some work to be done between

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<v Speaker 2>now and then and these guys hitting the ground running

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<v Speaker 2>to try to get ready for this twenty twenty four

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<v Speaker 2>season and well up up next though for them was

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<v Speaker 2>the NFL Scouting Combine. We'll come back in a moment

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<v Speaker 2>and get in to the week ahead in Indianapolis. It

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<v Speaker 2>starts on media Row on Tuesday of next week. We're

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<v Speaker 2>on tintin XL, Jaguars dot com, Jaguars YouTube, JP Shadrick

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<v Speaker 2>Water It's worth saving. Welcome back. It's Jaguars Happy Hour,

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<v Speaker 2>for Jeff Loghman this week. You're here, Well, it's great.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm glad to be here.

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<v Speaker 2>It's at greater a lot about to really go on

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<v Speaker 2>in the next couple weeks. We're on TENENXL, Jaguars dot Com,

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<v Speaker 2>Jaguars social Media, JAG's YouTube is where we run this

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<v Speaker 2>show each and every Thursday at four o'clock.

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<v Speaker 3>Let's trying to find the camera.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, yeah, there's like seventeen cameras in here. Yeah we

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<v Speaker 2>get every angle. Yes, we don't miss one.

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<v Speaker 3>And that's too many angles.

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<v Speaker 2>There's a lot of angles on ten t XL today

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<v Speaker 2>of course. So hey, The Jaguars five K Stadium Challenge

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<v Speaker 2>presented by Novo Nordisk is coming up Saturday, February twenty fourth,

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<v Speaker 2>that's two days from now at EverBank Stadium. Register now

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<v Speaker 2>Jaguars dot com slash five K, the number five K,

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<v Speaker 2>and that's it's always a fun event, man. There's a

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<v Speaker 2>lot going on around the stadium. And I challenged Bisselli

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<v Speaker 2>one year to that head to head five K. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>the stadium, five K, through the ramps and everything. Oh,

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<v Speaker 2>it didn't go well for me.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm not good at up and down.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not good at much of anything. And I found

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<v Speaker 2>this was action when I was back running a lot

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<v Speaker 2>and I kept up with Tony for like half a mile,

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<v Speaker 2>and I didn't keep up with Tony anymore. He just

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<v Speaker 2>turned on a little bit an extra year. Yeah, this

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<v Speaker 2>is before the hip win.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, gotcha? Yeah yeah, yeah, I could see that.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and I'd be being mean, not going Yeah, a

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<v Speaker 2>really good one too. Yeah, the most athletic tackle in

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<v Speaker 2>the history. Yeah, right, that and he turned on his jet.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm not sure you could do that now though with

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<v Speaker 3>a new hit.

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<v Speaker 2>Probably not. I should challenge him again.

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<v Speaker 3>It would be bad for you if you lost.

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<v Speaker 2>Now, it was bad for me. Anyway, I heard a

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<v Speaker 2>lot about it. You might actually be able to find

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<v Speaker 2>that on Jaguars dot com. We need a story about that.

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<v Speaker 3>That was a long, long time ago, though it's a

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<v Speaker 3>minute while.

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<v Speaker 2>It's been a while. Hey, there's a busy time coming up.

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<v Speaker 2>Of course, the Jaguars seems like they might have some

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<v Speaker 2>action in the franchise tag window, at least that's been

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<v Speaker 2>the conversation this whole offseason so far, and that window

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<v Speaker 2>is open now through March fifth. March fifth the deadline

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<v Speaker 2>to put the franchise tag on a player, and we'll

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<v Speaker 2>see what happens in the next couple weeks. With that

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<v Speaker 2>the NFL Scouting Combine starts next week in Indianapolis. We'll

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<v Speaker 2>be on the ground there starting Tuesday at the Radio

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<v Speaker 2>Row at the Indiana Convention Center as always, Tuesday, Wednesday,

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<v Speaker 2>Thursday on field testing, I believe, begins Thursday. They kind

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<v Speaker 2>of roll the position groups through as always, a position

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<v Speaker 2>group has interviews, media stuff a couple days before they're

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<v Speaker 2>on the actual field testing. They're interviewing with teams throughout.

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<v Speaker 2>There's medical exams, there's all happening at one time, and

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<v Speaker 2>all these different position groups kind of spread it out

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<v Speaker 2>day to day. The free agency negotiation period March eleventh

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<v Speaker 2>through the thirteenth, and then the thirteenth at four o'clock

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<v Speaker 2>is the start of the league year in twenty twenty

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<v Speaker 2>four and free agency begins. So between now and then,

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<v Speaker 2>you gotta clear some space if you're gonna start making

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<v Speaker 2>some runs at top tier free agency guys.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and I would expect two or three moves along

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<v Speaker 3>those lines. Either that or it's always hard to know.

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<v Speaker 3>People ask, well, who thinks getting cut, It's hard to

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<v Speaker 3>know how they're going to do it. In terms of

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<v Speaker 3>you might extend guys, you might add some voidable years.

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<v Speaker 3>There's ways to clear cap space. I would think players

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<v Speaker 3>such as Rayshawn Jenkins, Brandon Sheriff, maybe Cam Robinson of

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<v Speaker 3>a great feel for that. But there are guys who

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<v Speaker 3>you know, when you sign these guys for certain deals

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<v Speaker 3>in certain years, you're not really signing them with the

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<v Speaker 3>idea that they're going to be around for five years.

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<v Speaker 3>Even the duration of the contract. You're hoping that they

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<v Speaker 3>can play at a high level to a certain point,

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<v Speaker 3>and then you have to have drafted well to see.

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<v Speaker 3>That's part of the business. And I'm not saying Sheriff

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<v Speaker 3>and ray Shon are bad players, but they seem like

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<v Speaker 3>guys at the stage of their careers where it might

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<v Speaker 3>be time to transition. So I would expect moves along

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<v Speaker 3>those lines before free agency begins. You know, people always ask, well,

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<v Speaker 3>what's surprises do you expect, which you wouldn't be surprised, Yes.

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<v Speaker 2>So I think the one that is interesting that's the

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<v Speaker 2>Cam Robinson one. That's a tough one to deal with

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<v Speaker 2>because it's what twenty something million.

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<v Speaker 3>Dollars cap numbers astronomically high.

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<v Speaker 2>But he was really good when he was out there.

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<v Speaker 3>He has been a really, really good player for them

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<v Speaker 3>for a long time, reliable matters in the locker room.

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<v Speaker 3>To me, he's sort of a core guy, you know.

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<v Speaker 3>He's a guy who sort of represents what the Jaguars

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<v Speaker 3>have been for the last five six a and say, oh,

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<v Speaker 3>well they didn't win a lot, but you know what

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<v Speaker 3>I'm getting at, right, And he has been a guy

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<v Speaker 3>who has increasingly become a leader around the team, a

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<v Speaker 3>little bit of a spokesman last year, but beyond that,

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<v Speaker 3>he's been really solid. And I always say, give up

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<v Speaker 3>dependable players at.

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<v Speaker 2>Your own risk, you know, so they don't come around

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<v Speaker 2>that all.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, sometimes you have to do it, but there's also

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<v Speaker 3>guys that when you give them up, you're as soon

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<v Speaker 3>as you do, you're trying to find another version of that.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, So, pretty darn deep at tackles right last year

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<v Speaker 2>because of all the tackles they have Anton Harrison, you're little. Well,

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<v Speaker 2>all of a sudden you get rid of one of those,

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<v Speaker 2>you're not as deep anymore.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, And that's what that's the thing. When you start

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<v Speaker 3>playing what I call depth chart football in the off season,

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<v Speaker 3>it's really easy to fall into the trap of well,

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<v Speaker 3>they've got this guy left tackle, this guy right tackle,

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<v Speaker 3>and this guy at center, this guy guard, and then

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<v Speaker 3>all of a sudden on October fourteenth, you don't have

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<v Speaker 3>that guy at left tackle and you need one to

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<v Speaker 3>step in. So that has been a dependable situation where

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<v Speaker 3>when you see a guy go down during the season,

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<v Speaker 3>you're not panicking when all of a sudden, Cam Robinson

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<v Speaker 3>can't play for a week. Now, if Walker Little or

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<v Speaker 3>Anton Harrison can't play for a week and Cam's not

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<v Speaker 3>here now, you're probably talking about a rookie or a

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<v Speaker 3>guy who you don't feels good about. At the same time,

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<v Speaker 3>his cap number is really really high. So at some

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<v Speaker 3>point you have to be able to trust guys you

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<v Speaker 3>have drafted to replace guys that you drafted a long

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<v Speaker 3>time ago. Is that the time now for Cam Robinson?

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<v Speaker 3>I think we'll find out the next couple of weeks.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, in theory, you could renegotiate and push some

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<v Speaker 2>things out and you know, trim it down some, but

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<v Speaker 2>still he still gets his money. But you know, is

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<v Speaker 2>that in the long term plan of the organization. Are

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<v Speaker 2>they so confident in the other two tackles? Well, Little

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<v Speaker 2>and antime they wouldn't.

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<v Speaker 3>Do that on paper and in the planning rooms and

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<v Speaker 3>on the like I said on the PowerPoint presentations, that's

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<v Speaker 3>what you're that's what you would want to do with

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<v Speaker 3>Cam because he's what going into is eighth year next year.

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<v Speaker 3>That's starting to get to be the point where you

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<v Speaker 3>do want to have drafted well enough where you know, hey,

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<v Speaker 3>it's a business, we have to move on. But games

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<v Speaker 3>aren't played on PowerPoint presentations, so sometimes it doesn't work

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<v Speaker 3>out as well. And you but that's I don't know

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<v Speaker 3>which way they'll go, but that's what they have to

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<v Speaker 3>balance as you move forward with Well, ideally, here's what

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<v Speaker 3>we would do. Yeah, but he's really really good, so

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<v Speaker 3>you sort of you know, that's the dilemma. It's why

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<v Speaker 3>they're there and we're here.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, And that's it's a similar conversation on the interior too.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, at some point you got to get big

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<v Speaker 2>bodies that can go out there and play Ivan Tyler

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<v Speaker 2>Shatley's a free agent coming up. He was obviously showed

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<v Speaker 2>his value a lot over the years. Ten years here.

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<v Speaker 2>For goodness sakes, he's stuck around all these different regimes

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<v Speaker 2>for a reason because he goes out there when he

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<v Speaker 2>has to and he produces. But he's also a tenth

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<v Speaker 2>year player or going into his eleventh year.

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<v Speaker 3>I think coming up and think about what we're talking

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<v Speaker 3>about here, JP, you're talking about not really knowing what

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<v Speaker 3>the future is for Cam, for Ezra Cleveland, for Shatley

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<v Speaker 3>and Sheriff.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Cleveland's a free agent as well.

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<v Speaker 3>So that's a lot of veteran bodies to be walking

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<v Speaker 3>out if none of them return. So that's why I

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<v Speaker 3>keep talking about whenever I talk about this, the many,

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<v Speaker 3>many options, many potential plans. It's gonna be fascinating a

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<v Speaker 3>couple of weeks at a couple of weeks at at

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<v Speaker 3>that position, because now you've got to wonder how much

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<v Speaker 3>do you trust Cooper Hodges, who they like a lot,

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<v Speaker 3>but who has never played in the NFL beyond a

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<v Speaker 3>few practices. How do they feel about Luke Fordner? I

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<v Speaker 3>know fans are down on them. I don't get the

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<v Speaker 3>idea of the team is down on as.

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<v Speaker 2>The fans publicly they have said they supported.

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<v Speaker 3>Right, So Ezra Cleveland, who played here five or six

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<v Speaker 3>games they like a lot, can they get them back?

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<v Speaker 3>So it's uh, the offensive line is gonna look a

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<v Speaker 3>lot different next year. It's gonna be interesting to see

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<v Speaker 3>do you bring in a free agent, draft a rookie,

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<v Speaker 3>then you have Cooper. It could look a lot different

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<v Speaker 3>that they have to make the right moves over the

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<v Speaker 3>next what two months.

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<v Speaker 2>Or they could just make one. If they don't bring

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<v Speaker 2>the right guard back Sheriff, then the other four stay.

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<v Speaker 2>It's almost the saving I know.

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<v Speaker 3>To get the other four day, you have to resign's right,

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<v Speaker 3>which is he's a veteran guy with four years.

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<v Speaker 2>If that happens, then it would be the same five

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<v Speaker 2>at the end of the year.

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<v Speaker 3>It could be and or four of the five. So

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<v Speaker 3>in that case then you have to go with storyline

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<v Speaker 3>of well, that group needs to play better. That's right,

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<v Speaker 3>and groups can play better, but that group needs to

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<v Speaker 3>play better, especially on the interior.

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<v Speaker 2>We've got plenty ahead. We're gonna come back though, John

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<v Speaker 2>as if we haven't done this yet. We're gonna keep

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<v Speaker 2>it real when we come back, okay, and we're gonna

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<v Speaker 2>flip it to defense. Have a big name. Everybody's talking

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<v Speaker 2>about Josh, Oh, yeah, that guy. Say what you think

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<v Speaker 2>I was thinking about?

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<v Speaker 3>I thought you were probably talking about what that look

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<v Speaker 3>that was wondering.

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<v Speaker 2>I'd be curious what you thought I was thinking. Uh,

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<v Speaker 4>A lot of production, right, very important. And so when

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<v Speaker 4>you got a guy like that and and you want

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<v Speaker 4>him back, and I think that's going to work out,

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<v Speaker 4>would be really excited that works out, Really excited to

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<v Speaker 4>work with him. Nothing but great things. Talk to Josh

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<v Speaker 4>and he's been he's been fantastic, and so that'll get

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<v Speaker 4>worked out. Get him back and get him, get him going,

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<v Speaker 4>and hopefully get him into improve That's ultimate goal, right,

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<v Speaker 4>just take one. We can just get that much better

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<v Speaker 4>next year. Really, what does that look like? That's pretty exciting, right,

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<v Speaker 4>and so that's kind of what we want to work towards.

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<v Speaker 2>That's Ryan Nielsen, Jagg's defensive coordinator, last week during his

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<v Speaker 2>press conference a week ago today, when asked about Josh

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<v Speaker 2>allen Man, welcome back at Jaguars Happy Hour brought to

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<v Speaker 2>Jeff Loghim in today we're on tentenexl am Jaguars dot Com,

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<v Speaker 2>Jaguars YouTube as we will be each and every Thursday

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<v Speaker 2>in this offseason up until about mid June at the

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<v Speaker 2>end of the offseason. Program time. Now, John for keeping

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<v Speaker 2>it real. All right, this is what we do. We

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<v Speaker 2>keep it real.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, Okay, you're rero. Nielson's quote should have been big fan,

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<v Speaker 3>big fan, Josh a lot good answer.

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<v Speaker 2>The question today, though, is not about whether you like

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<v Speaker 2>him or not, because I think everybody's in agreement that

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<v Speaker 2>the DAGs like him. Josh Allen likes it all that

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<v Speaker 2>if it's a franchise tag and he plays under that,

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<v Speaker 2>if it's a long term deal and he plays under that,

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<v Speaker 2>if it's a tag, then they get to a deal

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<v Speaker 2>before the season. Does it really matter if he's just

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<v Speaker 2>on the field next.

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<v Speaker 3>Year for next year. No, I mean, I think you

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<v Speaker 3>would like to get him locked up for the long

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<v Speaker 3>term or I would. I think he's a very safe

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<v Speaker 3>a safe resigning for a lot of reasons that I've

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<v Speaker 3>outlined many times in recent weeks. He's a really good player,

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<v Speaker 3>even if he's not getting huge sack numbers. And I've

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<v Speaker 3>said a million times people get tired of me saying it.

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<v Speaker 3>But when he had seven and a half sacks seven

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<v Speaker 3>sacks In the years leading up to his seventeen and

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<v Speaker 3>a half sack season, I still thought he was by

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<v Speaker 3>far the best defensive player on the team, and when

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<v Speaker 3>a defensive player would be hurt, I would always scan

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<v Speaker 3>the field hoping it wasn't Josh Allen, because I don't

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<v Speaker 3>know where you go to replace what he gives you

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<v Speaker 3>in terms of consistency, really good against the run, effort

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<v Speaker 3>always there. You never hear you know, a lot of

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<v Speaker 3>pass rushers, you'll hear risks, Hey, it takes plays off.

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<v Speaker 3>We never hear that about Josh. So to me, you

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<v Speaker 3>get him resigned, get a deal done. But that's easy

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<v Speaker 3>for me to say. I'm not sitting there looking at

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<v Speaker 3>the numbers trying to crunch what value is on that.

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<v Speaker 3>That's up to those guys. So it would seem like

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<v Speaker 3>that's something you want to do. In terms of what

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<v Speaker 3>happens on the field, I don't think it matters that

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<v Speaker 3>much for twenty twenty four whether he's tagged or whether

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<v Speaker 3>he is under long term deal, as long as the

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<v Speaker 3>long term deal discussions aren't insulting. But even if they are, Josh,

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<v Speaker 3>to me is a guy who it's a business, so

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<v Speaker 3>there's things that go back and forth during negotiations that

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<v Speaker 3>might you know, anytime you have human beings talking to

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<v Speaker 3>each other, irritated, happy, whatever all those things are. But

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<v Speaker 3>I don't think he carries that into his preparation, and

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<v Speaker 3>I don't think he carries anything business side of it

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<v Speaker 3>into how he gives during a season. You've been around

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<v Speaker 3>him for five years, Jp, I have two. He plays

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<v Speaker 3>for his teammates, his team's pride. So I don't think

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<v Speaker 3>you're going to see a big difference in Josh whether

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<v Speaker 3>he's franchised or whether he is a long term deal.

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<v Speaker 3>I think the reason the long term deal is so

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<v Speaker 3>important is because I want to see him here in

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<v Speaker 3>twenty twenty five, yeah, in twenty twenty six.

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<v Speaker 2>And from Josh's perspective, the long term deal is guaranteed

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<v Speaker 2>more money, sure over longer period. So more money is

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<v Speaker 2>better than less money, right.

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<v Speaker 3>But the question is does it matter for twenty twenty

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<v Speaker 3>four now? If he is franchised and has ten sacks

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<v Speaker 3>compared to seventeen and a half, then everybody's gonna say, well,

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<v Speaker 3>ye know, he's mad he didn't you. But I don't

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<v Speaker 3>see him being a guy who doesn't prepare. I thought

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<v Speaker 3>he prepared at the same level and effort whatever. I'm

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<v Speaker 3>not sure there was a big difference in his preparation

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<v Speaker 3>between twenty three and moving between twenty twenty two and

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<v Speaker 3>twenty twenty three. He timed it right and had a

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<v Speaker 3>huge year. But you can't tell me that he was

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<v Speaker 3>that much more motivated well in twenty twenty three than

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<v Speaker 3>twenty twenty two.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, yeah, I'm with you on that because his every

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<v Speaker 2>day he.

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<v Speaker 3>Was playing for a contract year before TiO.

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<v Speaker 2>Work habits and everything or what they are. But I

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<v Speaker 2>think he heard some of that noise. Yeah, I mean

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<v Speaker 2>he at least told me that at Yeah, did was

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<v Speaker 2>there a game wrecker on this defense? That was the

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<v Speaker 2>big question going into that season, and I think he

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<v Speaker 2>spent a lot of this offseason thinking about that and

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<v Speaker 2>how he could become that game wrecking air quote type

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<v Speaker 2>of player. And sack numbers turned him into that guy.

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<v Speaker 2>But to your point about you know, in twenty twenty

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<v Speaker 2>two he only had seven sacks, right, good year, solid year,

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<v Speaker 2>but he also still had twenty two quarterback hits, eleven

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<v Speaker 2>less than he had last year. He had four forced fumbles,

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<v Speaker 2>two recoveries, which are hard to judge. But he also

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<v Speaker 2>had that touchdown in the last week of the season,

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<v Speaker 2>so he was impactful in other ways beyond just sacks.

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<v Speaker 2>That's your point, and I think that will be at

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<v Speaker 2>least the bottom floor the basement of what he will be.

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<v Speaker 2>He's always going to be around the football and impactful

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<v Speaker 2>in some way, if it's if it's sacking the quarter otherwise.

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<v Speaker 3>And my point with Josh is, I don't think you're

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<v Speaker 3>going to get a lower a different level of preparation, effort,

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<v Speaker 3>desire based on whatever you do, whatever happens in the

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<v Speaker 3>off season, whether he's franchised, whether he's not, I don't

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<v Speaker 3>think you're going to get a different level of preparation

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<v Speaker 3>and effort and even impact. I think he's always going

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<v Speaker 3>to be a pressure guy, whether it breaks right, and

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<v Speaker 3>he always gets sacks. Sacks sometimes or beyond a player's control.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's I mean, you can be right there around it,

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<v Speaker 2>near it, and then you get it out or it's

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<v Speaker 2>fumbled or whatever before you get there, or whatever happened.

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<v Speaker 3>And the best example I can give of that Hall

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<v Speaker 3>of Famer Dwight Freeney once told me his best year

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<v Speaker 3>was when he had four and a half sacks, and

0:31:46.800 --> 0:31:50.120
<v Speaker 3>he felt like he played better that year. His opportunities

0:31:50.160 --> 0:31:54.080
<v Speaker 3>weren't the same, but he swore up and down that

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<v Speaker 3>his best year was when he had four and a

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<v Speaker 3>half sacks compared to thirteen or twelve. And sometimes it's

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<v Speaker 3>a circumstance, and this is a guy who you know,

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<v Speaker 3>had a lot of double digit, double digit sax seasons.

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<v Speaker 2>Something to keep an eye on the next couple of weeks.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, if they don't come to a long term

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<v Speaker 2>deal before March fifth, do they, they're going to have

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<v Speaker 2>to put the tag on him and we'll see what happens.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, I'm assuming that he's deal, he'll tag it. He'll

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<v Speaker 3>have the tag, so we'll have to And then does

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<v Speaker 3>that mean you can get him to a long term

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<v Speaker 3>deal later. I would think it would be something that

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<v Speaker 3>keep working on. But so much of this is speculation

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<v Speaker 3>because they're really not I don't think either side is

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<v Speaker 3>going to talk very much about the specifics of this

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<v Speaker 3>until you're franchised, and then you know, they may say, no,

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<v Speaker 3>he's just gonna play on the tag this year. I

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<v Speaker 3>don't have a good feel for which way that'll go.

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<v Speaker 2>Well. I know, there's been a long history of the Jaguars, right,

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of different decision makers over the years. But

0:32:55.600 --> 0:33:00.920
<v Speaker 2>the Jaguars have had in the past ten franchise tags used.

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<v Speaker 2>Six of those instances have been a tag and then

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<v Speaker 2>sign a long term deal before the next season starts.

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<v Speaker 2>A couple of those two other ones. Three other ones

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<v Speaker 2>played under the tag number that year, including Donovan Darius

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<v Speaker 2>twice before he signed a long term deal, and then

0:33:17.760 --> 0:33:19.840
<v Speaker 2>yeni Kin get Away was tagged and then traded. That

0:33:20.000 --> 0:33:22.320
<v Speaker 2>was not gonna happen anyway. So now a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>different decision makers over that time. You never know, every

0:33:24.760 --> 0:33:28.080
<v Speaker 2>instance is different. But uh, in theory, and what's so

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<v Speaker 2>bad about the franchise thing anyway, it's it's twenty something

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<v Speaker 2>million dollars if it's one.

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<v Speaker 3>Year, yeah, it's bad year. It's fine, I mean, it's

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<v Speaker 3>it's it would be good money for you.

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<v Speaker 2>And sneeze at it in Washington a couple of years.

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<v Speaker 3>No, and he played his way into a lot of

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<v Speaker 3>money on those tags. Yeah, I think just generally, you

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<v Speaker 3>sort of know just from Josh has three children, you'd

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<v Speaker 3>like to know where he's gonna be too. There's an

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<v Speaker 3>element of that and for a player like Josh, the

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<v Speaker 3>gearuaranteed money of a long term deal would be greater

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<v Speaker 3>than the guaranteed money of the tag. Uh So it

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<v Speaker 3>it sends you a little worry of staying healthy for

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<v Speaker 3>the next year before you can get to that guaranteed

0:34:11.640 --> 0:34:14.080
<v Speaker 3>money the next year. So it's it's it's better for

0:34:14.160 --> 0:34:17.280
<v Speaker 3>the player. They all want the longer term deal, except

0:34:17.360 --> 0:34:20.040
<v Speaker 3>Kirk Cousins, who became a wealthy man on a lot

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<v Speaker 3>of short terms.

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<v Speaker 2>Certainly did and then got the full guaranteed thing in Minnesota.

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<v Speaker 2>I think he's up again rights.

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<v Speaker 3>Every year of his career. Yeah, and he's uh, yeah,

0:34:31.760 --> 0:34:32.960
<v Speaker 3>he's playing the system.

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<v Speaker 2>He's h he might be in the Business Hall of Fame.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, you know he is in. Yes he is.

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<v Speaker 2>Andrew Brandt has that, So there you have it. Keeping

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<v Speaker 2>it real, Josh Allen tag deal tag than deal doesn't matter.

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<v Speaker 2>He's gonna be on the field next yes, so yes and.

0:34:50.600 --> 0:34:54.319
<v Speaker 3>No it does yield yes, so no, it doesn't matter,

0:34:54.440 --> 0:34:55.719
<v Speaker 3>so yes and no.

0:34:56.239 --> 0:34:59.480
<v Speaker 2>Depending on your perspective, matters to Josh, I'm sure it

0:34:59.560 --> 0:35:02.759
<v Speaker 2>does so hey, you know it probably also matters to

0:35:02.760 --> 0:35:05.160
<v Speaker 2>Trayvon Walker, right, I mean, if you have that other

0:35:05.239 --> 0:35:07.640
<v Speaker 2>guy across from you or helping you on the defensive

0:35:07.719 --> 0:35:11.440
<v Speaker 2>line the other edge, as it were. If unless they

0:35:11.520 --> 0:35:14.719
<v Speaker 2>start moving walk around a little bit more, then it's

0:35:15.000 --> 0:35:17.920
<v Speaker 2>better to have that help across from you or beside you,

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<v Speaker 2>or wherever that happens to line up.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, no doubt. Your ideal is that they're both hard

0:35:22.520 --> 0:35:27.000
<v Speaker 3>to block, so that they can't that they have to

0:35:27.160 --> 0:35:30.040
<v Speaker 3>choose to double one of them on all plays, and

0:35:30.200 --> 0:35:32.880
<v Speaker 3>then that leaves the other guy free on play. So

0:35:33.360 --> 0:35:36.920
<v Speaker 3>that's your ideal. It felt like they Trayvon got doubled

0:35:36.920 --> 0:35:40.040
<v Speaker 3>a lot all last year and so did Josh, so

0:35:40.080 --> 0:35:41.440
<v Speaker 3>by the end of the season they did have that

0:35:42.160 --> 0:35:44.440
<v Speaker 3>feel of both of them being hard to block. When

0:35:44.440 --> 0:35:47.239
<v Speaker 3>you get twenty seven and a half sacks and a

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<v Speaker 3>lot of pressures, what they would like is to maintain

0:35:51.160 --> 0:35:54.239
<v Speaker 3>something close to those numbers and then get some help

0:35:54.320 --> 0:35:57.240
<v Speaker 3>on the interior. That's that's where that's the next step.

0:35:57.360 --> 0:35:59.319
<v Speaker 2>That's where it turns into twenty seventeen.

0:35:59.080 --> 0:36:02.120
<v Speaker 3>Right now, and ferish the guys on the interior. They

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<v Speaker 3>had to have gotten some pressure or the guys on

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<v Speaker 3>the edge don't get those numbers. So if the guys

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<v Speaker 3>on the interior doing nothing then you can step up

0:36:11.520 --> 0:36:11.920
<v Speaker 3>too easily.

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<v Speaker 2>But it was just so inconsistent with injury last year there,

0:36:14.800 --> 0:36:18.359
<v Speaker 2>I mean Hamilton and fully fun of Cassi. I mean

0:36:18.400 --> 0:36:20.279
<v Speaker 2>those guys were off the field more than they were on.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah. I would say run stopping at the end of

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<v Speaker 3>the season was more of an issue for those guys

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<v Speaker 3>in the interior than pressure in the passing game.

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<v Speaker 2>So because they were good early against the run, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>and took the ball away and then that that all

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<v Speaker 2>just went away, all disappeared. There you have it, keeping

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<v Speaker 2>it real. We're back in a moment, and we've got

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<v Speaker 2>the Microsoft social media questions. Yes we did, yes, the

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<v Speaker 2>right around the corner, and John, you have answers.

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<v Speaker 3>I will try.

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<v Speaker 2>for the Social media Questions presented by Microsoft. We put

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<v Speaker 2>out the Cat Signal earlier today. Here the best we've

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<v Speaker 2>come up with at I'm Bill McNeil. After not being

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<v Speaker 2>able to trade up using the extra picks in last

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<v Speaker 2>year's draft, well, GM trimp Balkey reconsider having eleventy billion

0:37:48.440 --> 0:37:52.799
<v Speaker 2>picks in this year's draft? Well they had thirteen last year. Yeah,

0:37:53.239 --> 0:37:53.799
<v Speaker 2>picked them all.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm not quite sure what the question he's wanting him like,

0:38:02.320 --> 0:38:06.239
<v Speaker 3>he's got what this year eight or not? So he'll

0:38:06.320 --> 0:38:11.360
<v Speaker 3>probably go into it with two more from COMPS, So

0:38:12.440 --> 0:38:15.759
<v Speaker 3>will he reconsider it? I'm not sure that he really

0:38:16.360 --> 0:38:20.640
<v Speaker 3>went in last year wanting that many, so I don't

0:38:20.680 --> 0:38:24.040
<v Speaker 3>think gms typically want that many draft picks, So I

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<v Speaker 3>would think if he goes into it with around nine

0:38:26.200 --> 0:38:29.880
<v Speaker 3>or ten, A lot of that depends on what they

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<v Speaker 3>think of the following year's draft, what they think of

0:38:32.080 --> 0:38:36.680
<v Speaker 3>the later rounds, So it's tough. I get the point

0:38:36.680 --> 0:38:38.920
<v Speaker 3>everybody said, well it's too many draft picks. He you know,

0:38:39.200 --> 0:38:43.080
<v Speaker 3>they wanted to move up for certain guys. They tried, so.

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<v Speaker 2>You know.

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<v Speaker 3>I guess I'm not sure what reconsider means in the question.

0:38:50.360 --> 0:38:52.480
<v Speaker 3>I think he to answer the question best I can.

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<v Speaker 3>I think he would like to have nine or ten

0:38:56.760 --> 0:39:00.040
<v Speaker 3>and then be able to move up and go. He

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<v Speaker 3>had a guy when he wants it. I think he

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<v Speaker 3>wanted that last year too. There were instances where they

0:39:05.600 --> 0:39:09.600
<v Speaker 3>tried to trade, but it's always easy to say after

0:39:09.840 --> 0:39:13.120
<v Speaker 3>well he should have tried harder trade. Well, you try

0:39:13.200 --> 0:39:16.600
<v Speaker 3>to trade, but you also don't want to give up

0:39:17.320 --> 0:39:20.680
<v Speaker 3>so much in the trade that you lose value in it.

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<v Speaker 3>So just because you can't trade doesn't mean you know

0:39:24.600 --> 0:39:29.439
<v Speaker 3>you're you're an awful trader. It means that you worked

0:39:29.480 --> 0:39:32.840
<v Speaker 3>at this trade, couldn't get the value wanted, and decided

0:39:32.880 --> 0:39:33.680
<v Speaker 3>to stan Pats.

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<v Speaker 2>So if we know anything about Trent Balke and his

0:39:36.480 --> 0:39:39.879
<v Speaker 2>drafting history, he's a fantastic trader. I mean, the guy

0:39:40.160 --> 0:39:42.719
<v Speaker 2>has so many trades on draft Day over the years

0:39:42.760 --> 0:39:45.839
<v Speaker 2>in San Francisco. In here. It didn't happen last year.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, sometimes you want a guy the other team knows

0:39:50.640 --> 0:39:53.680
<v Speaker 3>you want the guy, and they also want the guy,

0:39:54.200 --> 0:39:58.200
<v Speaker 3>or they want a player at this spot. Somebody asked

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<v Speaker 3>me last week about Marvin Harrison g and what would

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<v Speaker 3>it take to go up and get him from seventeen?

0:40:04.800 --> 0:40:08.640
<v Speaker 3>That would be too much, I would think. Also, sometimes

0:40:08.719 --> 0:40:14.000
<v Speaker 3>bends on the player. Like this, this questioner assumed that

0:40:14.760 --> 0:40:19.359
<v Speaker 3>Marvin Harrison Junior be availablet number four in the draft. Well,

0:40:21.560 --> 0:40:24.400
<v Speaker 3>if that player wasn't perceived as being as good as

0:40:24.440 --> 0:40:26.720
<v Speaker 3>Marvin Harrison Junior, or that team didn't want that player,

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<v Speaker 3>wouldn't take as much. If the team sitting at four

0:40:29.640 --> 0:40:32.520
<v Speaker 3>really wants Marvin Harrison Junior, then there's nothing that can

0:40:32.600 --> 0:40:35.080
<v Speaker 3>make you go so I mean exaggerate. There would be

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<v Speaker 3>something if you gave him, like your new car.

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<v Speaker 2>But I mean think about last year, right the Texans

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<v Speaker 2>moved up to get will Anderson right after they had

0:40:41.200 --> 0:40:44.600
<v Speaker 2>picked number one. They got to number three, and they

0:40:44.680 --> 0:40:46.080
<v Speaker 2>had the picks to do it. They had all these

0:40:46.120 --> 0:40:48.040
<v Speaker 2>first round picture Dean Watsons.

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<v Speaker 3>If the team sitting there had been dead sold on

0:40:51.680 --> 0:40:54.120
<v Speaker 3>will Anderson, it wouldn't have mattered with the Texans game.

0:40:54.880 --> 0:40:59.239
<v Speaker 3>There's a price. So yeah, I hope I answered the question.

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<v Speaker 3>Is tricky in terms of knowing. I don't think Trent

0:41:03.680 --> 0:41:05.440
<v Speaker 3>wants to go into a thirteen. I don't think they

0:41:05.480 --> 0:41:08.439
<v Speaker 3>wanted it. Last year, but it sort of became a dealer.

0:41:08.480 --> 0:41:09.279
<v Speaker 3>They couldn't get out of it.

0:41:10.280 --> 0:41:12.919
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and with that many players, there's only so many

0:41:12.960 --> 0:41:16.799
<v Speaker 2>that can truly contribute in one season. I mean in theory, right,

0:41:16.880 --> 0:41:19.640
<v Speaker 2>I mean they had Harrison was obviously on the field

0:41:19.680 --> 0:41:22.480
<v Speaker 2>all year, Strange was on the field most of the season.

0:41:22.560 --> 0:41:24.840
<v Speaker 2>Bigsby we know about him. Ben trel Miller had the

0:41:24.840 --> 0:41:28.560
<v Speaker 2>foot issue all year, Lacey played some, Abdullah was inactive

0:41:28.600 --> 0:41:30.480
<v Speaker 2>a lot of the time. Antonio Johnson late in the

0:41:30.560 --> 0:41:33.240
<v Speaker 2>year after he came back from his injury. Parker Washington

0:41:33.400 --> 0:41:36.080
<v Speaker 2>contributed and then he get down around six and seven.

0:41:36.160 --> 0:41:39.680
<v Speaker 2>It's Braswell and Hallett and the secondary Cooper Hodges had

0:41:39.680 --> 0:41:43.280
<v Speaker 2>the knee issue. Vhasig didn't make the team. Derek Parrish

0:41:43.400 --> 0:41:45.320
<v Speaker 2>didn't make the team, the seventh round guy. So that

0:41:45.600 --> 0:41:47.680
<v Speaker 2>kind of happened sometimes, especially with that many picks. Well,

0:41:47.800 --> 0:41:49.919
<v Speaker 2>sometimes there's only so many spots on the team.

0:41:51.040 --> 0:41:51.560
<v Speaker 3>Sorry about that.

0:41:51.960 --> 0:41:54.080
<v Speaker 2>Who's calling you? Yeah, they don't know you're on the air.

0:41:54.320 --> 0:41:59.440
<v Speaker 3>John with six and seventh round picks, he say, well,

0:41:59.440 --> 0:42:02.160
<v Speaker 3>why didn't they trade those for higher picks? Yeah, Well

0:42:02.280 --> 0:42:04.960
<v Speaker 3>if the other team doesn't want to either, Yeah, So

0:42:06.040 --> 0:42:08.960
<v Speaker 3>that's kind of tough too, so it can be tricky undrafted.

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<v Speaker 2>Next question at ratis Underscore Johansson. Of the teams that

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<v Speaker 2>missed the playoffs last season, what are the Jags rank

0:42:16.760 --> 0:42:20.640
<v Speaker 2>in terms of likelihood of elevating themselves back into the playoffs?

0:42:21.920 --> 0:42:23.200
<v Speaker 2>I think they're right on the border right.

0:42:23.280 --> 0:42:25.160
<v Speaker 3>I haven't really looked at all the teams that missed it,

0:42:25.239 --> 0:42:28.160
<v Speaker 3>to be honest with you, but look, they were nine

0:42:28.160 --> 0:42:33.400
<v Speaker 3>to eight and missed it by I think they were

0:42:33.400 --> 0:42:34.160
<v Speaker 3>the last team out.

0:42:35.160 --> 0:42:36.359
<v Speaker 2>They were a game away from going.

0:42:36.520 --> 0:42:40.040
<v Speaker 3>I don't think they're going to be worse.

0:42:40.680 --> 0:42:45.800
<v Speaker 2>Let's go through the teams that missed. Yeah, Cincinnati, Jacksonville, Indianapolis,

0:42:46.280 --> 0:42:51.600
<v Speaker 2>Las Vegas, Denver, Jets, Titans, Chargers, Patriots.

0:42:52.360 --> 0:42:55.800
<v Speaker 3>I would put them second to Cincinnati right in terms

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<v Speaker 3>of if I was trying to be neutral, I think

0:43:00.600 --> 0:43:02.520
<v Speaker 3>the Bengals go make the playoffs next year. I think

0:43:02.520 --> 0:43:04.560
<v Speaker 3>they were a really, really good chance the quarterback. It

0:43:04.600 --> 0:43:08.759
<v Speaker 3>would surprise me more if the Bengals weren't in the

0:43:08.760 --> 0:43:10.759
<v Speaker 3>playoffs and if the Jaguars weren't in the playoffs. But

0:43:10.880 --> 0:43:14.759
<v Speaker 3>I think the Jaguars, I think there's a very good

0:43:14.840 --> 0:43:16.239
<v Speaker 3>chance to go back to the playoffs. I think they're

0:43:16.320 --> 0:43:20.480
<v Speaker 3>nine to eight team, and last year with I think

0:43:20.480 --> 0:43:23.040
<v Speaker 3>they would have been in the playoffs had Trevor and

0:43:23.560 --> 0:43:24.560
<v Speaker 3>Christian not gotten hurt.

0:43:24.600 --> 0:43:26.080
<v Speaker 2>So I don.

0:43:26.000 --> 0:43:30.919
<v Speaker 3>Anticipate them being worse than that, But no team really

0:43:31.239 --> 0:43:33.960
<v Speaker 3>anticipates being worse. You always think you're getting.

0:43:33.680 --> 0:43:36.600
<v Speaker 2>Better, That's right, And all of a sudden, Houston made

0:43:36.640 --> 0:43:38.919
<v Speaker 2>the surge in year one with that whole crew. Yeah,

0:43:39.040 --> 0:43:42.000
<v Speaker 2>and that feels like they could build some momentum as well.

0:43:42.080 --> 0:43:44.440
<v Speaker 3>So they could, which is exactly what everybody was saying

0:43:44.480 --> 0:43:47.120
<v Speaker 3>about the Jags on this show, like very true to

0:43:47.239 --> 0:43:48.719
<v Speaker 3>go the other way. Yeah, so we'll see.

0:43:49.000 --> 0:43:52.640
<v Speaker 2>We'll say, you just don't know. Next question at jagspan

0:43:52.760 --> 0:43:54.440
<v Speaker 2>five eight five eight, does it make sense to let

0:43:54.560 --> 0:43:57.759
<v Speaker 2>Calvin Redley walk and then try re signing him so

0:43:57.840 --> 0:44:00.200
<v Speaker 2>we can keep the second round pick. I would think

0:44:00.239 --> 0:44:03.200
<v Speaker 2>we need that second round pick to draft other needs.

0:44:03.400 --> 0:44:11.560
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it makes sense unless he resigned he signed somewhere else.

0:44:12.760 --> 0:44:14.719
<v Speaker 2>Do you have some kind of wink deal in place

0:44:14.880 --> 0:44:15.800
<v Speaker 2>or something weird like that.

0:44:16.000 --> 0:44:20.319
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and that may be, and if they do good

0:44:20.360 --> 0:44:26.040
<v Speaker 3>for them, I would you know, I'm a burdenhand guy,

0:44:26.280 --> 0:44:31.839
<v Speaker 3>so yes, it's something they conceived. We try. I don't

0:44:31.880 --> 0:44:35.040
<v Speaker 3>know how much sense it makes you be you would

0:44:35.040 --> 0:44:36.399
<v Speaker 3>love to have your cake and eat it too, which

0:44:36.440 --> 0:44:40.959
<v Speaker 3>that is so, yes, it makes sense. They would also

0:44:41.000 --> 0:44:42.319
<v Speaker 3>be the risk of him signing somewhere else.

0:44:43.080 --> 0:44:44.799
<v Speaker 2>That's why he goes and offers him a boat load

0:44:44.840 --> 0:44:47.080
<v Speaker 2>of money. And yeah, all of a sudden he's signing

0:44:47.120 --> 0:44:49.120
<v Speaker 2>the paper of the day after a free agency.

0:44:48.840 --> 0:44:52.359
<v Speaker 3>Right, which is why you hope there's there's very little

0:44:52.400 --> 0:44:56.360
<v Speaker 3>tampering before the real tampering windows true.

0:44:57.520 --> 0:44:59.600
<v Speaker 2>Next question, our last question of the day at Carnival,

0:44:59.640 --> 0:45:03.600
<v Speaker 2>Thomas has social media helped or hurt professional sports on

0:45:03.680 --> 0:45:06.719
<v Speaker 2>the whole? Just looking for commentary from two vets of

0:45:06.760 --> 0:45:10.000
<v Speaker 2>the industry. This is this is such a deep question

0:45:10.120 --> 0:45:13.719
<v Speaker 2>I had to take it today. I think it's it's yes,

0:45:14.280 --> 0:45:16.640
<v Speaker 2>the answer. Yeah, it's depending on your perspective.

0:45:16.719 --> 0:45:21.880
<v Speaker 3>I think for young people, I think it's made it

0:45:22.120 --> 0:45:29.320
<v Speaker 3>more interactive at times and more fun. Uh. For old

0:45:29.480 --> 0:45:38.680
<v Speaker 3>coats like me, I, I you know, I don't know

0:45:38.920 --> 0:45:46.320
<v Speaker 3>that it's helped the quality on the face, I'm I

0:45:46.360 --> 0:45:49.160
<v Speaker 3>guess I'm thinking more about the quality of games. Hadn't

0:45:49.160 --> 0:45:54.040
<v Speaker 3>really affected that very much, but in terms of following

0:45:54.120 --> 0:45:58.520
<v Speaker 3>it it's certainly. Uh. I can remember when I was

0:45:58.560 --> 0:46:04.839
<v Speaker 3>in college following the the Washington football team, there were

0:46:05.360 --> 0:46:07.880
<v Speaker 3>times you felt very distant from it. The only times

0:46:07.920 --> 0:46:10.360
<v Speaker 3>I ever really learned about that team where when I

0:46:10.480 --> 0:46:15.439
<v Speaker 3>was watching them on TV. Because the Internet, I would

0:46:15.480 --> 0:46:18.759
<v Speaker 3>put up with that as much as social media. You know,

0:46:18.840 --> 0:46:20.799
<v Speaker 3>the Washington Post. I got it like three or four

0:46:20.880 --> 0:46:23.960
<v Speaker 3>days late in the Florida library, So I was hungry

0:46:24.000 --> 0:46:28.279
<v Speaker 3>for all information on the team. But I didn't know

0:46:28.880 --> 0:46:32.680
<v Speaker 3>every backup guard the way fans who really follow us

0:46:32.800 --> 0:46:36.399
<v Speaker 3>and the team do now. I didn't know. I didn't

0:46:36.440 --> 0:46:40.000
<v Speaker 3>read a press conference wrap up after every practice. There

0:46:40.120 --> 0:46:44.200
<v Speaker 3>was no Twitter, so it wasn't in real time, so

0:46:45.280 --> 0:46:47.960
<v Speaker 3>that it's different, And.

0:46:48.600 --> 0:46:51.960
<v Speaker 2>I would say, I mean it's better because there's more

0:46:52.120 --> 0:46:55.800
<v Speaker 2>quantity of coverage now, but the quality is diluted a

0:46:55.880 --> 0:46:58.120
<v Speaker 2>little bit. Sure, you have to be very careful about

0:46:59.280 --> 0:47:02.120
<v Speaker 2>why you're reading a certain tweet or article from a

0:47:02.160 --> 0:47:04.680
<v Speaker 2>tweet or whatever it is, to make sure it's truly

0:47:04.840 --> 0:47:06.279
<v Speaker 2>news or does it matter you know.

0:47:06.360 --> 0:47:09.359
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I think it's made it's harder for you don't

0:47:09.360 --> 0:47:09.520
<v Speaker 3>have to.

0:47:09.560 --> 0:47:12.080
<v Speaker 2>Be as qualified now to you know, or have a

0:47:12.280 --> 0:47:15.440
<v Speaker 2>lengthy journalistic career to have that kind of thing.

0:47:15.800 --> 0:47:18.760
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and and I guess the end of the coverage.

0:47:18.920 --> 0:47:23.759
<v Speaker 3>Is the coverage better now than it was then? I

0:47:23.800 --> 0:47:27.319
<v Speaker 3>would say no, because newspapers are dying out so much

0:47:28.040 --> 0:47:30.040
<v Speaker 3>that I'm not sure it's as good. But that's not

0:47:30.080 --> 0:47:32.160
<v Speaker 3>necessarily Social media as fall as much as the Internet.

0:47:32.160 --> 0:47:33.279
<v Speaker 3>So it's it's uh.

0:47:33.480 --> 0:47:34.879
<v Speaker 2>To your point. Has it changed the game?

0:47:35.360 --> 0:47:36.960
<v Speaker 3>I mean, I don't think changed the game.

0:47:37.560 --> 0:47:40.520
<v Speaker 2>Has it changed players mentality about how they put stuff out?

0:47:40.560 --> 0:47:43.840
<v Speaker 3>Sure, I think it's ratcheted up the pressure and the

0:47:43.960 --> 0:47:48.719
<v Speaker 3>immediacy and what's reacted to. I think it's made the

0:47:49.400 --> 0:47:55.360
<v Speaker 3>It's made the coaches press conference and media access points

0:47:56.280 --> 0:47:59.880
<v Speaker 3>more high volatile, that's not the right word I'm looking for,

0:48:00.160 --> 0:48:02.600
<v Speaker 3>but it's made that more of a pressure cooker type

0:48:02.640 --> 0:48:04.759
<v Speaker 3>thing where you've really got to watch what you say

0:48:04.840 --> 0:48:07.920
<v Speaker 3>and it's all immediate, and Doug might say something on

0:48:08.000 --> 0:48:10.040
<v Speaker 3>the podium and people just react to it and it's

0:48:10.880 --> 0:48:15.799
<v Speaker 3>he's an idiot, he's you know, Whereas before a coach

0:48:15.920 --> 0:48:17.960
<v Speaker 3>might say something and it would be in a story

0:48:18.239 --> 0:48:20.600
<v Speaker 3>and on TV and it would be a little more

0:48:20.719 --> 0:48:24.560
<v Speaker 3>nuanced maybe and a little more not the reaction to

0:48:24.680 --> 0:48:29.320
<v Speaker 3>it that there is now so it's made it harder

0:48:29.400 --> 0:48:31.680
<v Speaker 3>for them. I think on that front, change that dynamic.

0:48:32.320 --> 0:48:34.960
<v Speaker 3>Is it better or worse? Uh? You know the old

0:48:35.000 --> 0:48:36.960
<v Speaker 3>man shouting the clouds in me said, it's probably worse,

0:48:37.000 --> 0:48:40.160
<v Speaker 3>but it's probably not. It's probably just different. I mean,

0:48:40.320 --> 0:48:45.480
<v Speaker 3>so I think I do think this in terms of

0:48:45.640 --> 0:48:50.239
<v Speaker 3>watching your team, the immediacy now is it is so

0:48:50.400 --> 0:48:50.960
<v Speaker 3>much different.

0:48:51.040 --> 0:48:51.960
<v Speaker 2>I mean it was.

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<v Speaker 3>For a fan. This is better, without question. And I

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<v Speaker 3>can share this story in the Washington football team in

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<v Speaker 3>nineteen seventy six, which is way back JP. But in

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<v Speaker 3>a while, I'm in the sixth grade. They're all that

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<v Speaker 3>matters to me, right, I mean, this is my team.

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<v Speaker 3>They lost it or they won a game. I didn't

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<v Speaker 3>know they had won till the next morning it was

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<v Speaker 3>one o'clock.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh wow.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, because it wasn't on. It just wasn't on, and

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<v Speaker 3>no sports center. There was no sports center. So that's different.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it is.

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<v Speaker 3>It's not as good. There you have it.

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<v Speaker 2>Thanks for the social media questions powered by Microsoft. Coming

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<v Speaker 2>up next week, we will be in Indianapolis Tuesday, Wednesday

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<v Speaker 2>thirty Thursday from Radio Row. Plenty of guests already lined up.

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<v Speaker 2>We have many more in the Hopper, Daniel Jeremiah will

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<v Speaker 2>join us NFL Network, Charles Davis, Matt Miller of ESPN,

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<v Speaker 2>Jordan Reed of ESPN, Field Gates. They're all on the docket,

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<v Speaker 2>plus many more. All our shows Jags AM will move

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<v Speaker 2>to Wednesday next week. We'll have Jags Happy Hour Thursday

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<v Speaker 2>at four o'clock from Radio Row. Thanks to our entire crew. John,

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<v Speaker 2>thanks for coming in today.

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<v Speaker 3>Fantastic John.

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<v Speaker 2>I haven't seen you enough this week.

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<v Speaker 3>That's all yesterday, That's.

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<v Speaker 2>True, John Oser, a senior writer Jaguars dot Com are

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