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Speaker 2: It's Jaguars Happy Hour on this Thursday. It's February twenty second.

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Speaker 2: We've got a busy hour ahead. Coaching staff has been

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Speaker 2: announced today. The assistant coaches, most of them on defense,

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Speaker 2: Senior writer John Osiers steps in the valiantly good afternoon.

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Speaker 3: What season is it?

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Speaker 2: Is?

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Speaker 3: It is Jeff killing something or it's a great question.

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Speaker 2: I don't think it's Turkey season.

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Speaker 3: Usually when he's not here, something innocent.

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Speaker 2: Dear season. I don't know. Yeah, but we all eat

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Speaker 2: well a few months after that whenever he's gone.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, happy to be here, great.

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Speaker 2: Thanks for coming in. We appreciate that. And a lot

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Speaker 2: going on. Of course, I'm really starting to build up.

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Speaker 2: It hasn't really been happening the last month or so,

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Speaker 2: but it's felt like it's starting to build toward. Okay,

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Speaker 2: the combine next week. They've announced the coaching staff. Here's

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Speaker 2: the tag, windows open, they've got a cut players at

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Speaker 2: some point. We'll get to all that and the schedule

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Speaker 2: ahead coming up in just a little bit. But one

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Speaker 2: of the biggest priorities was getting the coaching staff finalized.

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Speaker 2: After making a bunch of cuts, certainly on the defensive

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Speaker 2: side of the football. The Jaguars today announced all the

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Speaker 2: assistant coaches here in the twenty twenty four season and beyond,

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Speaker 2: including Ryan Nielson, who spoke with the media last week

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Speaker 2: and you know, he was asked, Hey, when are you

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Speaker 2: finalizing the staff, and he kind of looked over to

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Speaker 2: the pr staff for the right He's like, well, they're here,

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Speaker 2: but we'll get to, you know, the finalization of that

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Speaker 2: coming up. Well it's here. Now. What does Nielsen think

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Speaker 4: Excited about the guys work with, some of them haven't

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Speaker 4: worked with, other coached a few, and so it's just

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Speaker 4: it's a great group of guys that been very close

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Speaker 4: to know that first and foremost good men. Secondly, really

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Speaker 4: good teachers, teachers of the game, and so when you

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Speaker 4: put those two things together, you know they're eager and excited.

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Speaker 4: We see a lot of similarities John.

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Speaker 2: We'll go through the names here in a moment, but

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Speaker 2: it's a mix of guys that he either coached or

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Speaker 2: that may not have been even involved in that process before.

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Speaker 2: But starting with defensive backs coach Chris Richard. That'll be

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Speaker 2: a focal point I think a lot, because hey, that

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Speaker 2: obviously on the defensive side of the ball. Chris Richard

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Speaker 2: serving as the defensive backs coach seventeen years of NFL

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Speaker 2: coaching and playing experience. He was with Nielsen with the

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Speaker 2: thirty eight games in the NFL. Let's start with that.

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Speaker 2: I mean, this is you know, if you look at

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and the defensive backs coach overall, a lot of

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Speaker 3: people believe it's the most important secondary. I mean, I

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Speaker 3: So so what will depend on the back seven? You

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Speaker 3: You know me, JP, I don't particularly overemphasize assistant coaches

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Speaker 2: Another secondary addition defensive assistant and cornerbacks coach Corey Robinson. Well,

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Speaker 2: Robinson comes in from the University of Tennessee the volunteers,

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Speaker 2: but he spent three years with the Saints and Hents.

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Speaker 2: The connection guys with Ryan Nielsen. And then another assistant

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Speaker 2: secondary coach and defensive analyst is Mike Gray, so that

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Speaker 2: completes the secondary staff. Matt House the inside linebackers coach.

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Speaker 2: He was two years with LSU and the Tigers were

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Speaker 2: so he's been around the league for a little bit

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Speaker 2: and he'll have his hands on the inside linebackers. That's

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Speaker 2: obviously a huge focus of this defense.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and Devin Lloyd to me, is a huge key

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Speaker 3: Can they get him playing at a high level in

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Speaker 3: big deal Foroyer Lucon. You know, to me, seems like

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Speaker 3: they reach Devin Lloyd? Uh? You know, I assume they can.

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Speaker 2: We will find out. Defensive line coaches Jeremy Garrett and Garretts,

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and that's a curious spot to me because Devon Hamilton,

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Speaker 3: Can you add somebody? If Photocosi is back to me,

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Speaker 3: it's a huge storyline. They have to be better and

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Speaker 3: in order to be a better run defense because at

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Speaker 3: early in the season. How do they get there? Maybe

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Speaker 2: Remember Bill Shuey was one of the coaches retained from

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Speaker 2: the defensive staff, the outside linebackers coach. He has an

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Speaker 2: assistant with him now, Mario Jebriel, So he joins the

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm gonna we have more to say about that.

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Speaker 2: I'm going forward.

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Speaker 3: I think they'll be coaching Josh Allen, Bill shoe You know,

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Speaker 2: Ten Tonight's l JP Shadwick with John Oser, we're going

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Speaker 2: his first season in the National Football League. Twenty years

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Speaker 2: and that's that can be real. We haven't talked to

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Speaker 3: Yeah, if you were a college coach when you went

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Speaker 3: He has a great resume. You would assume that a

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Speaker 3: big part of it will be working with Tank Bigsby,

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Speaker 3: trying to get the running backs up to speed in

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Speaker 3: line of scrimmage, detail things. His resume is great. The

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Speaker 3: sure you get more out of Bigsby than he did

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Speaker 3: not ready last year in third down situations or in

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Speaker 3: passing situations. That's not unusual for a rookie running back

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Speaker 3: I would think that's a huge task for the running

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Speaker 2: With Tank Bigsby, Yeah, they didn't have a consistent option

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Speaker 3: out if none of them return. So that's why I

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Speaker 3: keep talking about whenever I talk about this, the many,

435
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Speaker 3: many options, many potential plans. It's gonna be fascinating a

436
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Speaker 3: couple of weeks at a couple of weeks at at

437
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Speaker 3: that position, because now you've got to wonder how much

438
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Speaker 3: do you trust Cooper Hodges, who they like a lot,

439
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Speaker 3: but who has never played in the NFL beyond a

440
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Speaker 3: few practices. How do they feel about Luke Fordner? I

441
00:23:27,400 --> 00:23:30,600
Speaker 3: know fans are down on them. I don't get the

442
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Speaker 3: idea of the team is down on as.

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Speaker 2: The fans publicly they have said they supported.

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Speaker 3: Right, So Ezra Cleveland, who played here five or six

445
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Speaker 3: games they like a lot, can they get them back?

446
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Speaker 3: So it's uh, the offensive line is gonna look a

447
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Speaker 3: lot different next year. It's gonna be interesting to see

448
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Speaker 3: do you bring in a free agent, draft a rookie,

449
00:23:52,240 --> 00:23:54,399
Speaker 3: then you have Cooper. It could look a lot different

450
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Speaker 3: that they have to make the right moves over the

451
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Speaker 3: next what two months.

452
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Speaker 2: Or they could just make one. If they don't bring

453
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Speaker 2: the right guard back Sheriff, then the other four stay.

454
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Speaker 2: It's almost the saving I know.

455
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Speaker 3: To get the other four day, you have to resign's right,

456
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Speaker 3: which is he's a veteran guy with four years.

457
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Speaker 2: If that happens, then it would be the same five

458
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Speaker 2: at the end of the year.

459
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Speaker 3: It could be and or four of the five. So

460
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Speaker 3: in that case then you have to go with storyline

461
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Speaker 3: of well, that group needs to play better. That's right,

462
00:24:22,240 --> 00:24:25,119
Speaker 3: and groups can play better, but that group needs to

463
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Speaker 3: play better, especially on the interior.

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Speaker 2: We've got plenty ahead. We're gonna come back though, John

465
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Speaker 2: as if we haven't done this yet. We're gonna keep

466
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Speaker 2: it real when we come back, okay, and we're gonna

467
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Speaker 2: flip it to defense. Have a big name. Everybody's talking

468
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Speaker 2: about Josh, Oh, yeah, that guy. Say what you think

469
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Speaker 2: I was thinking about?

470
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Speaker 3: I thought you were probably talking about what that look

471
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Speaker 3: that was wondering.

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Speaker 2: I'd be curious what you thought I was thinking. Uh,

473
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Speaker 2: we're back at the moment as Jaguar is Happy Hour

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Speaker 2: brought to you by the Saint John's River Water Management District,

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Speaker 2: Florida's Water. It's worth saving.

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Speaker 4: A lot of production, right, very important. And so when

477
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Speaker 4: you got a guy like that and and you want

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Speaker 4: him back, and I think that's going to work out,

479
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Speaker 4: would be really excited that works out, Really excited to

480
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Speaker 4: work with him. Nothing but great things. Talk to Josh

481
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Speaker 4: and he's been he's been fantastic, and so that'll get

482
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Speaker 4: worked out. Get him back and get him, get him going,

483
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Speaker 4: and hopefully get him into improve That's ultimate goal, right,

484
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Speaker 4: just take one. We can just get that much better

485
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Speaker 4: next year. Really, what does that look like? That's pretty exciting, right,

486
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Speaker 4: and so that's kind of what we want to work towards.

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Speaker 2: That's Ryan Nielsen, Jagg's defensive coordinator, last week during his

488
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Speaker 2: press conference a week ago today, when asked about Josh

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Speaker 2: allen Man, welcome back at Jaguars Happy Hour brought to

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Speaker 2: It's worth saving and JP Shadwick with John Oser for

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Speaker 2: Jeff Loghim in today we're on tentenexl am Jaguars dot Com,

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Speaker 2: Jaguars YouTube as we will be each and every Thursday

494
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Speaker 2: in this offseason up until about mid June at the

495
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Speaker 2: end of the offseason. Program time. Now, John for keeping

496
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Speaker 2: it real. All right, this is what we do. We

497
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Speaker 2: keep it real.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Okay, you're rero. Nielson's quote should have been big fan,

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Speaker 3: big fan, Josh a lot good answer.

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Speaker 2: The question today, though, is not about whether you like

501
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Speaker 2: him or not, because I think everybody's in agreement that

502
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Speaker 2: the DAGs like him. Josh Allen likes it all that

503
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Speaker 2: if it's a franchise tag and he plays under that,

504
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Speaker 2: if it's a long term deal and he plays under that,

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Speaker 2: if it's a tag, then they get to a deal

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Speaker 2: before the season. Does it really matter if he's just

507
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Speaker 2: on the field next.

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Speaker 3: Year for next year. No, I mean, I think you

509
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Speaker 3: would like to get him locked up for the long

510
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Speaker 3: term or I would. I think he's a very safe

511
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Speaker 3: a safe resigning for a lot of reasons that I've

512
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Speaker 3: outlined many times in recent weeks. He's a really good player,

513
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Speaker 3: even if he's not getting huge sack numbers. And I've

514
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Speaker 3: said a million times people get tired of me saying it.

515
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Speaker 3: But when he had seven and a half sacks seven

516
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Speaker 3: sacks In the years leading up to his seventeen and

517
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Speaker 3: a half sack season, I still thought he was by

518
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Speaker 3: far the best defensive player on the team, and when

519
00:27:27,119 --> 00:27:29,800
Speaker 3: a defensive player would be hurt, I would always scan

520
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Speaker 3: the field hoping it wasn't Josh Allen, because I don't

521
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Speaker 3: know where you go to replace what he gives you

522
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Speaker 3: in terms of consistency, really good against the run, effort

523
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Speaker 3: always there. You never hear you know, a lot of

524
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Speaker 3: pass rushers, you'll hear risks, Hey, it takes plays off.

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Speaker 3: We never hear that about Josh. So to me, you

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Speaker 3: get him resigned, get a deal done. But that's easy

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Speaker 3: for me to say. I'm not sitting there looking at

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Speaker 3: the numbers trying to crunch what value is on that.

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Speaker 3: That's up to those guys. So it would seem like

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Speaker 3: that's something you want to do. In terms of what

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Speaker 3: happens on the field, I don't think it matters that

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Speaker 3: much for twenty twenty four whether he's tagged or whether

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Speaker 3: he is under long term deal, as long as the

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Speaker 3: long term deal discussions aren't insulting. But even if they are, Josh,

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Speaker 3: to me is a guy who it's a business, so

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Speaker 3: there's things that go back and forth during negotiations that

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Speaker 3: might you know, anytime you have human beings talking to

538
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Speaker 3: each other, irritated, happy, whatever all those things are. But

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Speaker 3: I don't think he carries that into his preparation, and

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Speaker 3: I don't think he carries anything business side of it

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Speaker 3: into how he gives during a season. You've been around

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Speaker 3: him for five years, Jp, I have two. He plays

543
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Speaker 3: for his teammates, his team's pride. So I don't think

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Speaker 3: you're going to see a big difference in Josh whether

545
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Speaker 3: he's franchised or whether he is a long term deal.

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Speaker 3: I think the reason the long term deal is so

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Speaker 3: important is because I want to see him here in

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Speaker 3: twenty twenty five, yeah, in twenty twenty six.

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Speaker 2: And from Josh's perspective, the long term deal is guaranteed

550
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Speaker 2: more money, sure over longer period. So more money is

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Speaker 2: better than less money, right.

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Speaker 3: But the question is does it matter for twenty twenty

553
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Speaker 3: four now? If he is franchised and has ten sacks

554
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Speaker 3: compared to seventeen and a half, then everybody's gonna say, well,

555
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Speaker 3: ye know, he's mad he didn't you. But I don't

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Speaker 3: see him being a guy who doesn't prepare. I thought

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Speaker 3: he prepared at the same level and effort whatever. I'm

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Speaker 3: not sure there was a big difference in his preparation

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Speaker 3: between twenty three and moving between twenty twenty two and

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Speaker 3: twenty twenty three. He timed it right and had a

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Speaker 3: huge year. But you can't tell me that he was

562
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Speaker 3: that much more motivated well in twenty twenty three than

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Speaker 3: twenty twenty two.

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Speaker 2: Well, yeah, I'm with you on that because his every

565
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Speaker 2: day he.

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Speaker 3: Was playing for a contract year before TiO.

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Speaker 2: Work habits and everything or what they are. But I

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Speaker 2: think he heard some of that noise. Yeah, I mean

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Speaker 2: he at least told me that at Yeah, did was

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Speaker 2: there a game wrecker on this defense? That was the

571
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Speaker 2: big question going into that season, and I think he

572
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Speaker 2: spent a lot of this offseason thinking about that and

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Speaker 2: how he could become that game wrecking air quote type

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Speaker 2: of player. And sack numbers turned him into that guy.

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Speaker 2: But to your point about you know, in twenty twenty

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Speaker 2: two he only had seven sacks, right, good year, solid year,

577
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Speaker 2: but he also still had twenty two quarterback hits, eleven

578
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Speaker 2: less than he had last year. He had four forced fumbles,

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Speaker 2: two recoveries, which are hard to judge. But he also

580
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Speaker 2: had that touchdown in the last week of the season,

581
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Speaker 2: so he was impactful in other ways beyond just sacks.

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Speaker 2: That's your point, and I think that will be at

583
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Speaker 2: least the bottom floor the basement of what he will be.

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Speaker 2: He's always going to be around the football and impactful

585
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Speaker 2: in some way, if it's if it's sacking the quarter otherwise.

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Speaker 3: And my point with Josh is, I don't think you're

587
00:31:02,840 --> 00:31:06,880
Speaker 3: going to get a lower a different level of preparation, effort,

588
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Speaker 3: desire based on whatever you do, whatever happens in the

589
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Speaker 3: off season, whether he's franchised, whether he's not, I don't

590
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Speaker 3: think you're going to get a different level of preparation

591
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Speaker 3: and effort and even impact. I think he's always going

592
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Speaker 3: to be a pressure guy, whether it breaks right, and

593
00:31:24,920 --> 00:31:29,640
Speaker 3: he always gets sacks. Sacks sometimes or beyond a player's control.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's I mean, you can be right there around it,

595
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Speaker 2: near it, and then you get it out or it's

596
00:31:35,200 --> 00:31:37,680
Speaker 2: fumbled or whatever before you get there, or whatever happened.

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Speaker 3: And the best example I can give of that Hall

598
00:31:40,360 --> 00:31:43,280
Speaker 3: of Famer Dwight Freeney once told me his best year

599
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Speaker 3: was when he had four and a half sacks, and

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Speaker 3: he felt like he played better that year. His opportunities

601
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Speaker 3: weren't the same, but he swore up and down that

602
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Speaker 3: his best year was when he had four and a

603
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Speaker 3: half sacks compared to thirteen or twelve. And sometimes it's

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Speaker 3: a circumstance, and this is a guy who you know,

605
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Speaker 3: had a lot of double digit, double digit sax seasons.

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Speaker 2: Something to keep an eye on the next couple of weeks.

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Speaker 2: You know, if they don't come to a long term

608
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Speaker 2: deal before March fifth, do they, they're going to have

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Speaker 2: to put the tag on him and we'll see what happens.

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Speaker 3: Well, I'm assuming that he's deal, he'll tag it. He'll

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Speaker 3: have the tag, so we'll have to And then does

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Speaker 3: that mean you can get him to a long term

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Speaker 3: deal later. I would think it would be something that

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Speaker 3: keep working on. But so much of this is speculation

615
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Speaker 3: because they're really not I don't think either side is

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Speaker 3: going to talk very much about the specifics of this

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Speaker 3: until you're franchised, and then you know, they may say, no,

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Speaker 3: he's just gonna play on the tag this year. I

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Speaker 3: don't have a good feel for which way that'll go.

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Speaker 2: Well. I know, there's been a long history of the Jaguars, right,

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Speaker 2: a lot of different decision makers over the years. But

622
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Speaker 2: the Jaguars have had in the past ten franchise tags used.

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Speaker 2: Six of those instances have been a tag and then

624
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Speaker 2: sign a long term deal before the next season starts.

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Speaker 2: A couple of those two other ones. Three other ones

626
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Speaker 2: played under the tag number that year, including Donovan Darius

627
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Speaker 2: twice before he signed a long term deal, and then

628
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Speaker 2: yeni Kin get Away was tagged and then traded. That

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Speaker 2: was not gonna happen anyway. So now a lot of

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Speaker 2: different decision makers over that time. You never know, every

631
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Speaker 2: instance is different. But uh, in theory, and what's so

632
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Speaker 2: bad about the franchise thing anyway, it's it's twenty something

633
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Speaker 2: million dollars if it's one.

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Speaker 3: Year, yeah, it's bad year. It's fine, I mean, it's

635
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Speaker 3: it's it would be good money for you.

636
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Speaker 2: And sneeze at it in Washington a couple of years.

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Speaker 3: No, and he played his way into a lot of

638
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Speaker 3: money on those tags. Yeah, I think just generally, you

639
00:33:49,240 --> 00:33:54,120
Speaker 3: sort of know just from Josh has three children, you'd

640
00:33:54,160 --> 00:33:56,440
Speaker 3: like to know where he's gonna be too. There's an

641
00:33:56,440 --> 00:33:59,720
Speaker 3: element of that and for a player like Josh, the

642
00:33:59,760 --> 00:34:03,000
Speaker 3: gearuaranteed money of a long term deal would be greater

643
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Speaker 3: than the guaranteed money of the tag. Uh So it

644
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Speaker 3: it sends you a little worry of staying healthy for

645
00:34:09,200 --> 00:34:11,600
Speaker 3: the next year before you can get to that guaranteed

646
00:34:11,640 --> 00:34:14,080
Speaker 3: money the next year. So it's it's it's better for

647
00:34:14,160 --> 00:34:17,280
Speaker 3: the player. They all want the longer term deal, except

648
00:34:17,360 --> 00:34:20,040
Speaker 3: Kirk Cousins, who became a wealthy man on a lot

649
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Speaker 3: of short terms.

650
00:34:20,880 --> 00:34:24,719
Speaker 2: Certainly did and then got the full guaranteed thing in Minnesota.

651
00:34:24,760 --> 00:34:27,399
Speaker 2: I think he's up again rights.

652
00:34:27,800 --> 00:34:31,640
Speaker 3: Every year of his career. Yeah, and he's uh, yeah,

653
00:34:31,760 --> 00:34:32,960
Speaker 3: he's playing the system.

654
00:34:33,040 --> 00:34:34,919
Speaker 2: He's h he might be in the Business Hall of Fame.

655
00:34:35,719 --> 00:34:37,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know he is in. Yes he is.

656
00:34:38,360 --> 00:34:41,440
Speaker 2: Andrew Brandt has that, So there you have it. Keeping

657
00:34:41,480 --> 00:34:46,279
Speaker 2: it real, Josh Allen tag deal tag than deal doesn't matter.

658
00:34:47,560 --> 00:34:50,400
Speaker 2: He's gonna be on the field next yes, so yes and.

659
00:34:50,600 --> 00:34:54,319
Speaker 3: No it does yield yes, so no, it doesn't matter,

660
00:34:54,440 --> 00:34:55,719
Speaker 3: so yes and no.

661
00:34:56,239 --> 00:34:59,480
Speaker 2: Depending on your perspective, matters to Josh, I'm sure it

662
00:34:59,560 --> 00:35:02,759
Speaker 2: does so hey, you know it probably also matters to

663
00:35:02,760 --> 00:35:05,160
Speaker 2: Trayvon Walker, right, I mean, if you have that other

664
00:35:05,239 --> 00:35:07,640
Speaker 2: guy across from you or helping you on the defensive

665
00:35:07,719 --> 00:35:11,440
Speaker 2: line the other edge, as it were. If unless they

666
00:35:11,520 --> 00:35:14,719
Speaker 2: start moving walk around a little bit more, then it's

667
00:35:15,000 --> 00:35:17,920
Speaker 2: better to have that help across from you or beside you,

668
00:35:18,080 --> 00:35:19,920
Speaker 2: or wherever that happens to line up.

669
00:35:20,120 --> 00:35:22,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, no doubt. Your ideal is that they're both hard

670
00:35:22,520 --> 00:35:27,000
Speaker 3: to block, so that they can't that they have to

671
00:35:27,160 --> 00:35:30,040
Speaker 3: choose to double one of them on all plays, and

672
00:35:30,200 --> 00:35:32,880
Speaker 3: then that leaves the other guy free on play. So

673
00:35:33,360 --> 00:35:36,920
Speaker 3: that's your ideal. It felt like they Trayvon got doubled

674
00:35:36,920 --> 00:35:40,040
Speaker 3: a lot all last year and so did Josh, so

675
00:35:40,080 --> 00:35:41,440
Speaker 3: by the end of the season they did have that

676
00:35:42,160 --> 00:35:44,440
Speaker 3: feel of both of them being hard to block. When

677
00:35:44,440 --> 00:35:47,239
Speaker 3: you get twenty seven and a half sacks and a

678
00:35:47,280 --> 00:35:51,080
Speaker 3: lot of pressures, what they would like is to maintain

679
00:35:51,160 --> 00:35:54,239
Speaker 3: something close to those numbers and then get some help

680
00:35:54,320 --> 00:35:57,240
Speaker 3: on the interior. That's that's where that's the next step.

681
00:35:57,360 --> 00:35:59,319
Speaker 2: That's where it turns into twenty seventeen.

682
00:35:59,080 --> 00:36:02,120
Speaker 3: Right now, and ferish the guys on the interior. They

683
00:36:02,560 --> 00:36:04,920
Speaker 3: had to have gotten some pressure or the guys on

684
00:36:05,000 --> 00:36:08,359
Speaker 3: the edge don't get those numbers. So if the guys

685
00:36:08,400 --> 00:36:11,480
Speaker 3: on the interior doing nothing then you can step up

686
00:36:11,520 --> 00:36:11,920
Speaker 3: too easily.

687
00:36:12,040 --> 00:36:14,759
Speaker 2: But it was just so inconsistent with injury last year there,

688
00:36:14,800 --> 00:36:18,359
Speaker 2: I mean Hamilton and fully fun of Cassi. I mean

689
00:36:18,400 --> 00:36:20,279
Speaker 2: those guys were off the field more than they were on.

690
00:36:21,040 --> 00:36:24,520
Speaker 3: Yeah. I would say run stopping at the end of

691
00:36:24,560 --> 00:36:29,000
Speaker 3: the season was more of an issue for those guys

692
00:36:29,400 --> 00:36:33,680
Speaker 3: in the interior than pressure in the passing game.

693
00:36:34,239 --> 00:36:36,000
Speaker 2: So because they were good early against the run, yeah,

694
00:36:36,120 --> 00:36:38,160
Speaker 2: and took the ball away and then that that all

695
00:36:38,320 --> 00:36:43,080
Speaker 2: just went away, all disappeared. There you have it, keeping

696
00:36:43,120 --> 00:36:45,680
Speaker 2: it real. We're back in a moment, and we've got

697
00:36:45,719 --> 00:36:50,560
Speaker 2: the Microsoft social media questions. Yes we did, yes, the

698
00:36:50,719 --> 00:36:52,760
Speaker 2: right around the corner, and John, you have answers.

699
00:36:53,480 --> 00:36:54,040
Speaker 3: I will try.

700
00:36:54,200 --> 00:36:56,200
Speaker 2: I might have an answer to. I don't know. I

701
00:36:56,320 --> 00:37:00,520
Speaker 2: doubt I wouldn't hold my breath. Jaguars Happy Hour brought

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707
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Speaker 2: on ten Toxlam Jaguars dot com, Jaguars YouTube. It's time

708
00:37:30,960 --> 00:37:34,560
Speaker 2: for the Social media Questions presented by Microsoft. We put

709
00:37:34,600 --> 00:37:37,640
Speaker 2: out the Cat Signal earlier today. Here the best we've

710
00:37:37,680 --> 00:37:42,319
Speaker 2: come up with at I'm Bill McNeil. After not being

711
00:37:42,360 --> 00:37:44,480
Speaker 2: able to trade up using the extra picks in last

712
00:37:44,560 --> 00:37:48,320
Speaker 2: year's draft, well, GM trimp Balkey reconsider having eleventy billion

713
00:37:48,440 --> 00:37:52,799
Speaker 2: picks in this year's draft? Well they had thirteen last year. Yeah,

714
00:37:53,239 --> 00:37:53,799
Speaker 2: picked them all.

715
00:37:54,880 --> 00:38:01,520
Speaker 3: I'm not quite sure what the question he's wanting him like,

716
00:38:02,320 --> 00:38:06,239
Speaker 3: he's got what this year eight or not? So he'll

717
00:38:06,320 --> 00:38:11,360
Speaker 3: probably go into it with two more from COMPS, So

718
00:38:12,440 --> 00:38:15,759
Speaker 3: will he reconsider it? I'm not sure that he really

719
00:38:16,360 --> 00:38:20,640
Speaker 3: went in last year wanting that many, so I don't

720
00:38:20,680 --> 00:38:24,040
Speaker 3: think gms typically want that many draft picks, So I

721
00:38:24,080 --> 00:38:26,080
Speaker 3: would think if he goes into it with around nine

722
00:38:26,200 --> 00:38:29,880
Speaker 3: or ten, A lot of that depends on what they

723
00:38:29,960 --> 00:38:32,040
Speaker 3: think of the following year's draft, what they think of

724
00:38:32,080 --> 00:38:36,680
Speaker 3: the later rounds, So it's tough. I get the point

725
00:38:36,680 --> 00:38:38,920
Speaker 3: everybody said, well it's too many draft picks. He you know,

726
00:38:39,200 --> 00:38:43,080
Speaker 3: they wanted to move up for certain guys. They tried, so.

727
00:38:45,520 --> 00:38:45,680
Speaker 2: You know.

728
00:38:47,160 --> 00:38:49,839
Speaker 3: I guess I'm not sure what reconsider means in the question.

729
00:38:50,360 --> 00:38:52,480
Speaker 3: I think he to answer the question best I can.

730
00:38:52,600 --> 00:38:56,120
Speaker 3: I think he would like to have nine or ten

731
00:38:56,760 --> 00:39:00,040
Speaker 3: and then be able to move up and go. He

732
00:39:00,080 --> 00:39:02,080
Speaker 3: had a guy when he wants it. I think he

733
00:39:02,200 --> 00:39:05,480
Speaker 3: wanted that last year too. There were instances where they

734
00:39:05,600 --> 00:39:09,600
Speaker 3: tried to trade, but it's always easy to say after

735
00:39:09,840 --> 00:39:13,120
Speaker 3: well he should have tried harder trade. Well, you try

736
00:39:13,200 --> 00:39:16,600
Speaker 3: to trade, but you also don't want to give up

737
00:39:17,320 --> 00:39:20,680
Speaker 3: so much in the trade that you lose value in it.

738
00:39:20,840 --> 00:39:24,560
Speaker 3: So just because you can't trade doesn't mean you know

739
00:39:24,600 --> 00:39:29,439
Speaker 3: you're you're an awful trader. It means that you worked

740
00:39:29,480 --> 00:39:32,840
Speaker 3: at this trade, couldn't get the value wanted, and decided

741
00:39:32,880 --> 00:39:33,680
Speaker 3: to stan Pats.

742
00:39:33,800 --> 00:39:36,320
Speaker 2: So if we know anything about Trent Balke and his

743
00:39:36,480 --> 00:39:39,879
Speaker 2: drafting history, he's a fantastic trader. I mean, the guy

744
00:39:40,160 --> 00:39:42,719
Speaker 2: has so many trades on draft Day over the years

745
00:39:42,760 --> 00:39:45,839
Speaker 2: in San Francisco. In here. It didn't happen last year.

746
00:39:45,920 --> 00:39:50,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, sometimes you want a guy the other team knows

747
00:39:50,640 --> 00:39:53,680
Speaker 3: you want the guy, and they also want the guy,

748
00:39:54,200 --> 00:39:58,200
Speaker 3: or they want a player at this spot. Somebody asked

749
00:39:58,239 --> 00:40:01,439
Speaker 3: me last week about Marvin Harrison g and what would

750
00:40:01,440 --> 00:40:03,360
Speaker 3: it take to go up and get him from seventeen?

751
00:40:04,800 --> 00:40:08,640
Speaker 3: That would be too much, I would think. Also, sometimes

752
00:40:08,719 --> 00:40:14,000
Speaker 3: bends on the player. Like this, this questioner assumed that

753
00:40:14,760 --> 00:40:19,359
Speaker 3: Marvin Harrison Junior be availablet number four in the draft. Well,

754
00:40:21,560 --> 00:40:24,400
Speaker 3: if that player wasn't perceived as being as good as

755
00:40:24,440 --> 00:40:26,720
Speaker 3: Marvin Harrison Junior, or that team didn't want that player,

756
00:40:27,160 --> 00:40:29,560
Speaker 3: wouldn't take as much. If the team sitting at four

757
00:40:29,640 --> 00:40:32,520
Speaker 3: really wants Marvin Harrison Junior, then there's nothing that can

758
00:40:32,600 --> 00:40:35,080
Speaker 3: make you go so I mean exaggerate. There would be

759
00:40:35,160 --> 00:40:36,480
Speaker 3: something if you gave him, like your new car.

760
00:40:36,640 --> 00:40:38,720
Speaker 2: But I mean think about last year, right the Texans

761
00:40:38,840 --> 00:40:41,200
Speaker 2: moved up to get will Anderson right after they had

762
00:40:41,200 --> 00:40:44,600
Speaker 2: picked number one. They got to number three, and they

763
00:40:44,680 --> 00:40:46,080
Speaker 2: had the picks to do it. They had all these

764
00:40:46,120 --> 00:40:48,040
Speaker 2: first round picture Dean Watsons.

765
00:40:48,120 --> 00:40:51,279
Speaker 3: If the team sitting there had been dead sold on

766
00:40:51,680 --> 00:40:54,120
Speaker 3: will Anderson, it wouldn't have mattered with the Texans game.

767
00:40:54,880 --> 00:40:59,239
Speaker 3: There's a price. So yeah, I hope I answered the question.

768
00:40:59,480 --> 00:41:03,640
Speaker 3: Is tricky in terms of knowing. I don't think Trent

769
00:41:03,680 --> 00:41:05,440
Speaker 3: wants to go into a thirteen. I don't think they

770
00:41:05,480 --> 00:41:08,439
Speaker 3: wanted it. Last year, but it sort of became a dealer.

771
00:41:08,480 --> 00:41:09,279
Speaker 3: They couldn't get out of it.

772
00:41:10,280 --> 00:41:12,919
Speaker 2: Yeah, and with that many players, there's only so many

773
00:41:12,960 --> 00:41:16,799
Speaker 2: that can truly contribute in one season. I mean in theory, right,

774
00:41:16,880 --> 00:41:19,640
Speaker 2: I mean they had Harrison was obviously on the field

775
00:41:19,680 --> 00:41:22,480
Speaker 2: all year, Strange was on the field most of the season.

776
00:41:22,560 --> 00:41:24,840
Speaker 2: Bigsby we know about him. Ben trel Miller had the

777
00:41:24,840 --> 00:41:28,560
Speaker 2: foot issue all year, Lacey played some, Abdullah was inactive

778
00:41:28,600 --> 00:41:30,480
Speaker 2: a lot of the time. Antonio Johnson late in the

779
00:41:30,560 --> 00:41:33,240
Speaker 2: year after he came back from his injury. Parker Washington

780
00:41:33,400 --> 00:41:36,080
Speaker 2: contributed and then he get down around six and seven.

781
00:41:36,160 --> 00:41:39,680
Speaker 2: It's Braswell and Hallett and the secondary Cooper Hodges had

782
00:41:39,680 --> 00:41:43,280
Speaker 2: the knee issue. Vhasig didn't make the team. Derek Parrish

783
00:41:43,400 --> 00:41:45,320
Speaker 2: didn't make the team, the seventh round guy. So that

784
00:41:45,600 --> 00:41:47,680
Speaker 2: kind of happened sometimes, especially with that many picks. Well,

785
00:41:47,800 --> 00:41:49,919
Speaker 2: sometimes there's only so many spots on the team.

786
00:41:51,040 --> 00:41:51,560
Speaker 3: Sorry about that.

787
00:41:51,960 --> 00:41:54,080
Speaker 2: Who's calling you? Yeah, they don't know you're on the air.

788
00:41:54,320 --> 00:41:59,440
Speaker 3: John with six and seventh round picks, he say, well,

789
00:41:59,440 --> 00:42:02,160
Speaker 3: why didn't they trade those for higher picks? Yeah, Well

790
00:42:02,280 --> 00:42:04,960
Speaker 3: if the other team doesn't want to either, Yeah, So

791
00:42:06,040 --> 00:42:08,960
Speaker 3: that's kind of tough too, so it can be tricky undrafted.

792
00:42:09,680 --> 00:42:14,080
Speaker 2: Next question at ratis Underscore Johansson. Of the teams that

793
00:42:14,280 --> 00:42:16,719
Speaker 2: missed the playoffs last season, what are the Jags rank

794
00:42:16,760 --> 00:42:20,640
Speaker 2: in terms of likelihood of elevating themselves back into the playoffs?

795
00:42:21,920 --> 00:42:23,200
Speaker 2: I think they're right on the border right.

796
00:42:23,280 --> 00:42:25,160
Speaker 3: I haven't really looked at all the teams that missed it,

797
00:42:25,239 --> 00:42:28,160
Speaker 3: to be honest with you, but look, they were nine

798
00:42:28,160 --> 00:42:33,400
Speaker 3: to eight and missed it by I think they were

799
00:42:33,400 --> 00:42:34,160
Speaker 3: the last team out.

800
00:42:35,160 --> 00:42:36,359
Speaker 2: They were a game away from going.

801
00:42:36,520 --> 00:42:40,040
Speaker 3: I don't think they're going to be worse.

802
00:42:40,680 --> 00:42:45,800
Speaker 2: Let's go through the teams that missed. Yeah, Cincinnati, Jacksonville, Indianapolis,

803
00:42:46,280 --> 00:42:51,600
Speaker 2: Las Vegas, Denver, Jets, Titans, Chargers, Patriots.

804
00:42:52,360 --> 00:42:55,800
Speaker 3: I would put them second to Cincinnati right in terms

805
00:42:55,840 --> 00:43:00,520
Speaker 3: of if I was trying to be neutral, I think

806
00:43:00,600 --> 00:43:02,520
Speaker 3: the Bengals go make the playoffs next year. I think

807
00:43:02,520 --> 00:43:04,560
Speaker 3: they were a really, really good chance the quarterback. It

808
00:43:04,600 --> 00:43:08,759
Speaker 3: would surprise me more if the Bengals weren't in the

809
00:43:08,760 --> 00:43:10,759
Speaker 3: playoffs and if the Jaguars weren't in the playoffs. But

810
00:43:10,880 --> 00:43:14,759
Speaker 3: I think the Jaguars, I think there's a very good

811
00:43:14,840 --> 00:43:16,239
Speaker 3: chance to go back to the playoffs. I think they're

812
00:43:16,320 --> 00:43:20,480
Speaker 3: nine to eight team, and last year with I think

813
00:43:20,480 --> 00:43:23,040
Speaker 3: they would have been in the playoffs had Trevor and

814
00:43:23,560 --> 00:43:24,560
Speaker 3: Christian not gotten hurt.

815
00:43:24,600 --> 00:43:26,080
Speaker 2: So I don.

816
00:43:26,000 --> 00:43:30,919
Speaker 3: Anticipate them being worse than that, But no team really

817
00:43:31,239 --> 00:43:33,960
Speaker 3: anticipates being worse. You always think you're getting.

818
00:43:33,680 --> 00:43:36,600
Speaker 2: Better, That's right, And all of a sudden, Houston made

819
00:43:36,640 --> 00:43:38,919
Speaker 2: the surge in year one with that whole crew. Yeah,

820
00:43:39,040 --> 00:43:42,000
Speaker 2: and that feels like they could build some momentum as well.

821
00:43:42,080 --> 00:43:44,440
Speaker 3: So they could, which is exactly what everybody was saying

822
00:43:44,480 --> 00:43:47,120
Speaker 3: about the Jags on this show, like very true to

823
00:43:47,239 --> 00:43:48,719
Speaker 3: go the other way. Yeah, so we'll see.

824
00:43:49,000 --> 00:43:52,640
Speaker 2: We'll say, you just don't know. Next question at jagspan

825
00:43:52,760 --> 00:43:54,440
Speaker 2: five eight five eight, does it make sense to let

826
00:43:54,560 --> 00:43:57,759
Speaker 2: Calvin Redley walk and then try re signing him so

827
00:43:57,840 --> 00:44:00,200
Speaker 2: we can keep the second round pick. I would think

828
00:44:00,239 --> 00:44:03,200
Speaker 2: we need that second round pick to draft other needs.

829
00:44:03,400 --> 00:44:11,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, it makes sense unless he resigned he signed somewhere else.

830
00:44:12,760 --> 00:44:14,719
Speaker 2: Do you have some kind of wink deal in place

831
00:44:14,880 --> 00:44:15,800
Speaker 2: or something weird like that.

832
00:44:16,000 --> 00:44:20,319
Speaker 3: Yeah, and that may be, and if they do good

833
00:44:20,360 --> 00:44:26,040
Speaker 3: for them, I would you know, I'm a burdenhand guy,

834
00:44:26,280 --> 00:44:31,839
Speaker 3: so yes, it's something they conceived. We try. I don't

835
00:44:31,880 --> 00:44:35,040
Speaker 3: know how much sense it makes you be you would

836
00:44:35,040 --> 00:44:36,399
Speaker 3: love to have your cake and eat it too, which

837
00:44:36,440 --> 00:44:40,959
Speaker 3: that is so, yes, it makes sense. They would also

838
00:44:41,000 --> 00:44:42,319
Speaker 3: be the risk of him signing somewhere else.

839
00:44:43,080 --> 00:44:44,799
Speaker 2: That's why he goes and offers him a boat load

840
00:44:44,840 --> 00:44:47,080
Speaker 2: of money. And yeah, all of a sudden he's signing

841
00:44:47,120 --> 00:44:49,120
Speaker 2: the paper of the day after a free agency.

842
00:44:48,840 --> 00:44:52,359
Speaker 3: Right, which is why you hope there's there's very little

843
00:44:52,400 --> 00:44:56,360
Speaker 3: tampering before the real tampering windows true.

844
00:44:57,520 --> 00:44:59,600
Speaker 2: Next question, our last question of the day at Carnival,

845
00:44:59,640 --> 00:45:03,600
Speaker 2: Thomas has social media helped or hurt professional sports on

846
00:45:03,680 --> 00:45:06,719
Speaker 2: the whole? Just looking for commentary from two vets of

847
00:45:06,760 --> 00:45:10,000
Speaker 2: the industry. This is this is such a deep question

848
00:45:10,120 --> 00:45:13,719
Speaker 2: I had to take it today. I think it's it's yes,

849
00:45:14,280 --> 00:45:16,640
Speaker 2: the answer. Yeah, it's depending on your perspective.

850
00:45:16,719 --> 00:45:21,880
Speaker 3: I think for young people, I think it's made it

851
00:45:22,120 --> 00:45:29,320
Speaker 3: more interactive at times and more fun. Uh. For old

852
00:45:29,480 --> 00:45:38,680
Speaker 3: coats like me, I, I you know, I don't know

853
00:45:38,920 --> 00:45:46,320
Speaker 3: that it's helped the quality on the face, I'm I

854
00:45:46,360 --> 00:45:49,160
Speaker 3: guess I'm thinking more about the quality of games. Hadn't

855
00:45:49,160 --> 00:45:54,040
Speaker 3: really affected that very much, but in terms of following

856
00:45:54,120 --> 00:45:58,520
Speaker 3: it it's certainly. Uh. I can remember when I was

857
00:45:58,560 --> 00:46:04,839
Speaker 3: in college following the the Washington football team, there were

858
00:46:05,360 --> 00:46:07,880
Speaker 3: times you felt very distant from it. The only times

859
00:46:07,920 --> 00:46:10,360
Speaker 3: I ever really learned about that team where when I

860
00:46:10,480 --> 00:46:15,439
Speaker 3: was watching them on TV. Because the Internet, I would

861
00:46:15,480 --> 00:46:18,759
Speaker 3: put up with that as much as social media. You know,

862
00:46:18,840 --> 00:46:20,799
Speaker 3: the Washington Post. I got it like three or four

863
00:46:20,880 --> 00:46:23,960
Speaker 3: days late in the Florida library, So I was hungry

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Speaker 3: for all information on the team. But I didn't know

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Speaker 3: every backup guard the way fans who really follow us

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Speaker 3: and the team do now. I didn't know. I didn't

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Speaker 3: read a press conference wrap up after every practice. There

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Speaker 3: was no Twitter, so it wasn't in real time, so

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Speaker 3: that it's different, And.

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Speaker 2: I would say, I mean it's better because there's more

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Speaker 2: quantity of coverage now, but the quality is diluted a

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Speaker 2: little bit. Sure, you have to be very careful about

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Speaker 2: why you're reading a certain tweet or article from a

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Speaker 2: tweet or whatever it is, to make sure it's truly

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Speaker 2: news or does it matter you know.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think it's made it's harder for you don't

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Speaker 3: have to.

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Speaker 2: Be as qualified now to you know, or have a

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Speaker 2: lengthy journalistic career to have that kind of thing.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and and I guess the end of the coverage.

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Speaker 3: Is the coverage better now than it was then? I

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Speaker 3: would say no, because newspapers are dying out so much

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Speaker 3: that I'm not sure it's as good. But that's not

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Speaker 3: necessarily Social media as fall as much as the Internet.

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Speaker 3: So it's it's uh.

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Speaker 2: To your point. Has it changed the game?

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Speaker 3: I mean, I don't think changed the game.

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Speaker 2: Has it changed players mentality about how they put stuff out?

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Speaker 3: Sure, I think it's ratcheted up the pressure and the

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Speaker 3: immediacy and what's reacted to. I think it's made the

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Speaker 3: It's made the coaches press conference and media access points

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Speaker 3: more high volatile, that's not the right word I'm looking for,

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Speaker 3: but it's made that more of a pressure cooker type

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Speaker 3: thing where you've really got to watch what you say

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Speaker 3: and it's all immediate, and Doug might say something on

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Speaker 3: the podium and people just react to it and it's

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Speaker 3: he's an idiot, he's you know, Whereas before a coach

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Speaker 3: might say something and it would be in a story

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Speaker 3: and on TV and it would be a little more

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Speaker 3: nuanced maybe and a little more not the reaction to

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Speaker 3: it that there is now so it's made it harder

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Speaker 3: for them. I think on that front, change that dynamic.

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Speaker 3: Is it better or worse? Uh? You know the old

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Speaker 3: man shouting the clouds in me said, it's probably worse,

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Speaker 3: but it's probably not. It's probably just different. I mean,

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Speaker 3: so I think I do think this in terms of

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Speaker 3: watching your team, the immediacy now is it is so

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Speaker 3: much different.

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Speaker 2: I mean it was.

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Speaker 3: For a fan. This is better, without question. And I

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Speaker 3: can share this story in the Washington football team in

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Speaker 3: nineteen seventy six, which is way back JP. But in

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Speaker 3: a while, I'm in the sixth grade. They're all that

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Speaker 3: matters to me, right, I mean, this is my team.

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Speaker 3: They lost it or they won a game. I didn't

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Speaker 3: know they had won till the next morning it was

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Speaker 3: one o'clock.

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Speaker 2: Oh wow.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, because it wasn't on. It just wasn't on, and

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Speaker 3: no sports center. There was no sports center. So that's different.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it is.

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Speaker 3: It's not as good. There you have it.

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Speaker 2: Thanks for the social media questions powered by Microsoft. Coming

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Speaker 2: up next week, we will be in Indianapolis Tuesday, Wednesday

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Speaker 2: thirty Thursday from Radio Row. Plenty of guests already lined up.

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Speaker 2: We have many more in the Hopper, Daniel Jeremiah will

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Speaker 2: join us NFL Network, Charles Davis, Matt Miller of ESPN,

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Speaker 2: Jordan Reed of ESPN, Field Gates. They're all on the docket,

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Speaker 2: plus many more. All our shows Jags AM will move

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Speaker 2: to Wednesday next week. We'll have Jags Happy Hour Thursday

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Speaker 2: at four o'clock from Radio Row. Thanks to our entire crew. John,

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Speaker 2: thanks for coming in today.

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Speaker 3: Fantastic John.

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Speaker 2: I haven't seen you enough this week.

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Speaker 3: That's all yesterday, That's.

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Speaker 2: True, John Oser, a senior writer Jaguars dot Com are

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