1 00:00:15,476 --> 00:00:27,316 Speaker 1: Pushkin. When I was ten years old, I took part 2 00:00:27,316 --> 00:00:29,796 Speaker 1: in the New Bedford High School Drama Club's production of 3 00:00:29,836 --> 00:00:36,516 Speaker 1: Peter Pan the Musical. I was obsessed with Peter Pan, 4 00:00:36,796 --> 00:00:39,476 Speaker 1: the boy who never grows old, the boy who got 5 00:00:39,476 --> 00:00:45,036 Speaker 1: to enjoy the fun and games of childhood forever. Now 6 00:00:45,076 --> 00:00:47,716 Speaker 1: that I'm in my forties, watching old videos of me 7 00:00:47,836 --> 00:00:50,956 Speaker 1: belting out songs from that musical is kind of sobering. 8 00:00:51,316 --> 00:00:53,716 Speaker 1: My ten year old self believed that she'd follow Peter 9 00:00:53,796 --> 00:00:59,196 Speaker 1: Pan's wise example and never lose the playfulness of you. 10 00:01:00,556 --> 00:01:03,156 Speaker 1: But for the last few years, I was allowing the 11 00:01:03,156 --> 00:01:06,676 Speaker 1: stresses of adulthood to prevent me from having fun. So 12 00:01:06,716 --> 00:01:09,716 Speaker 1: I decided to take on a very personal question. I 13 00:01:09,756 --> 00:01:12,676 Speaker 1: spent a few episodes of this podcast trying to inject 14 00:01:12,716 --> 00:01:15,676 Speaker 1: a bit more fun back into my adult life. I 15 00:01:15,756 --> 00:01:18,236 Speaker 1: did things that pushed me outside my comfort zone, like 16 00:01:18,316 --> 00:01:21,476 Speaker 1: taking a surfing lesson, and things that were just mindless fun. 17 00:01:21,636 --> 00:01:24,636 Speaker 1: I just want to be with you, like singing karaoke. 18 00:01:24,956 --> 00:01:28,676 Speaker 1: I guess you never felt that way. I carried out 19 00:01:28,716 --> 00:01:30,876 Speaker 1: a fun audit, looking at the kinds of things I 20 00:01:30,996 --> 00:01:34,236 Speaker 1: like doing and asking myself exactly why I enjoy those 21 00:01:34,396 --> 00:01:36,916 Speaker 1: yeah turns? Out. I get a kick out of doing 22 00:01:36,996 --> 00:01:39,956 Speaker 1: absurd stuff with big groups of friends. My fun factors 23 00:01:39,996 --> 00:01:43,076 Speaker 1: also include dressing up and goofing around, hence my love 24 00:01:43,116 --> 00:01:49,156 Speaker 1: of Halloween parties and eighty singalongs. What w And? After 25 00:01:49,196 --> 00:01:52,156 Speaker 1: those two episodes, I've tried to prioritize having more fun. 26 00:01:52,756 --> 00:01:56,436 Speaker 1: I started to regularly stage little fun interventions, or fun 27 00:01:56,476 --> 00:01:59,676 Speaker 1: preventions as I call them. I plan little trips, play 28 00:01:59,716 --> 00:02:03,276 Speaker 1: silly games, and generally look for odd but enjoyable adventures 29 00:02:03,316 --> 00:02:05,716 Speaker 1: to have with the people I care about. I search 30 00:02:05,756 --> 00:02:08,036 Speaker 1: for things that are social, things that make me forget 31 00:02:08,076 --> 00:02:12,876 Speaker 1: my worries, that make time fly by, and often playing 32 00:02:12,916 --> 00:02:16,676 Speaker 1: silly games winds up being the easiest option. They swim 33 00:02:16,876 --> 00:02:20,556 Speaker 1: in a whale, you know a fish Yep. This is 34 00:02:20,596 --> 00:02:22,716 Speaker 1: heads Up. It's a guessing game where you place your 35 00:02:22,756 --> 00:02:25,596 Speaker 1: phone against your forehead with the screen facing your friends. 36 00:02:25,996 --> 00:02:27,796 Speaker 1: They then give you clues so that you can guess 37 00:02:27,836 --> 00:02:30,516 Speaker 1: the name of the animal, object, or person that's shown 38 00:02:30,556 --> 00:02:34,996 Speaker 1: on the screen. Australia Koala, Yeah, but today I'm all 39 00:02:35,116 --> 00:02:38,356 Speaker 1: playing Heads Up with my friends. Has a pouch for you? 40 00:02:39,476 --> 00:02:43,036 Speaker 1: I'm in a recording studio in Franklin, Massachusetts, sitting across 41 00:02:43,036 --> 00:02:45,716 Speaker 1: from three people I barely know who have taken the 42 00:02:45,716 --> 00:02:51,916 Speaker 1: message of Funterventions to heart. One Horn Rhino, Natalie Robinson, 43 00:02:52,076 --> 00:02:54,516 Speaker 1: Lisa Whalen, and Jen Moran are all members of a 44 00:02:54,596 --> 00:02:57,396 Speaker 1: running club for women that became so much more than that. 45 00:02:57,876 --> 00:03:01,196 Speaker 2: We are bound by running, and then we became friends. 46 00:03:01,476 --> 00:03:05,796 Speaker 2: This is Natalie, and we have gone through, like I 47 00:03:05,796 --> 00:03:08,476 Speaker 2: feel like every life thing. We've had parents die, we've 48 00:03:08,596 --> 00:03:15,356 Speaker 2: had divorce, we've had engagements, and different than other friendships 49 00:03:15,356 --> 00:03:18,756 Speaker 2: we all have in town, we're not connected from neighborhoods 50 00:03:18,956 --> 00:03:22,996 Speaker 2: or kids, sports or school, but it's truly just this 51 00:03:23,076 --> 00:03:25,756 Speaker 2: great group of people that came together starting by running, 52 00:03:25,756 --> 00:03:27,396 Speaker 2: and then it just grew and grew and grew. 53 00:03:27,916 --> 00:03:30,396 Speaker 1: And part of that growth involved Natalie's love of a 54 00:03:30,396 --> 00:03:34,196 Speaker 1: certain podcast. Yep. Natalie is a Happiness Lab fan. She 55 00:03:34,316 --> 00:03:37,196 Speaker 1: loves all our episodes, but my two shows about losing 56 00:03:37,276 --> 00:03:39,036 Speaker 1: touch with fun really hit home. 57 00:03:39,276 --> 00:03:42,036 Speaker 2: I remember in your podcast you were saying, like, I'm 58 00:03:42,076 --> 00:03:44,196 Speaker 2: a fun person, but I don't really have that much fun. 59 00:03:44,236 --> 00:03:44,876 Speaker 1: And I sit on the. 60 00:03:44,796 --> 00:03:46,876 Speaker 2: Couch and I watch TV, and yeah, that's relaxing, but 61 00:03:46,876 --> 00:03:50,636 Speaker 2: it's not really fun. And I found like when the 62 00:03:50,716 --> 00:03:53,036 Speaker 2: kids were little, it was so easy to have fun, 63 00:03:53,036 --> 00:03:54,316 Speaker 2: like you take them to the zoo, you take them 64 00:03:54,356 --> 00:03:57,236 Speaker 2: to the water park, and then when they get older, 65 00:03:58,156 --> 00:04:02,436 Speaker 2: there's less things to do as adults that are that 66 00:04:02,636 --> 00:04:06,156 Speaker 2: pure fun. And so when we heard your podcast, we 67 00:04:06,196 --> 00:04:08,356 Speaker 2: were like, yeah, are we fun? Like do we even 68 00:04:08,396 --> 00:04:09,396 Speaker 2: have fun anymore? 69 00:04:09,476 --> 00:04:11,796 Speaker 1: Like? Let's have more fun. And so the members of 70 00:04:11,796 --> 00:04:14,956 Speaker 1: the running club threw themselves into staging regular and often 71 00:04:14,996 --> 00:04:19,116 Speaker 1: quite elaborate funterventions. In fact, these ladies were so inventive, 72 00:04:19,316 --> 00:04:22,676 Speaker 1: so organized, and so disciplined about adding fun to their lives. 73 00:04:22,796 --> 00:04:24,916 Speaker 1: I had to share their story with you, and I 74 00:04:24,956 --> 00:04:28,236 Speaker 1: started by asking Jen Moran how fun and especially fun 75 00:04:28,276 --> 00:04:30,876 Speaker 1: with friends had been squeezed out of their busy lives. 76 00:04:30,996 --> 00:04:33,636 Speaker 3: We are balancing so much when you have a young family, 77 00:04:33,956 --> 00:04:36,476 Speaker 3: and a lot of us were working as well, and 78 00:04:36,516 --> 00:04:38,516 Speaker 3: we were getting up at five ten in the morning 79 00:04:38,596 --> 00:04:40,556 Speaker 3: because we wanted to get a run in, and then 80 00:04:40,596 --> 00:04:42,756 Speaker 3: not everybody could run, and so we were trying to 81 00:04:42,796 --> 00:04:44,916 Speaker 3: catch up with each other kind of almost in between, 82 00:04:45,236 --> 00:04:47,436 Speaker 3: we would joke around that we needed minutes from each 83 00:04:47,436 --> 00:04:49,636 Speaker 3: of the run so that we could send it around 84 00:04:49,636 --> 00:04:51,356 Speaker 3: so we could all stay in touch with what was 85 00:04:51,396 --> 00:04:54,716 Speaker 3: going on because everyone was just so busy with their lives, 86 00:04:54,836 --> 00:04:59,276 Speaker 3: and I think friendship was so important to all of us, 87 00:04:59,316 --> 00:05:03,276 Speaker 3: but prioritizing and making the time to focus on that 88 00:05:03,476 --> 00:05:05,836 Speaker 3: is just as important. And that's I feel like what 89 00:05:05,916 --> 00:05:07,436 Speaker 3: we've started to intentionally do. 90 00:05:07,516 --> 00:05:09,916 Speaker 1: Now, let's talk about the beginning of the club, because 91 00:05:09,916 --> 00:05:12,236 Speaker 1: there was you know, your busy moms and things like that. 92 00:05:12,236 --> 00:05:14,796 Speaker 1: How did the running club get started? Nata? So it 93 00:05:14,916 --> 00:05:15,836 Speaker 1: actually started. 94 00:05:16,036 --> 00:05:20,516 Speaker 2: One of our friends started a like a town running 95 00:05:20,516 --> 00:05:23,476 Speaker 2: club different than the people that we run with now somehow, 96 00:05:23,716 --> 00:05:26,716 Speaker 2: so that sort of fizzled, but a group of those 97 00:05:26,836 --> 00:05:30,436 Speaker 2: people kept running together, and then it would be like 98 00:05:30,796 --> 00:05:32,716 Speaker 2: my daughter was in elementary school and I was chatting 99 00:05:32,716 --> 00:05:34,476 Speaker 2: with someone and she was like, wait, you run, Yeah, 100 00:05:34,516 --> 00:05:36,236 Speaker 2: we run, all of us run. Come meet us for 101 00:05:36,276 --> 00:05:39,996 Speaker 2: a run. And it used to be like people were nervous. 102 00:05:39,996 --> 00:05:42,476 Speaker 2: I remember one of our friends in the group was like, 103 00:05:42,516 --> 00:05:44,596 Speaker 2: I was so nervous the first time I ran with 104 00:05:44,636 --> 00:05:48,076 Speaker 2: you guys, And like I'm the Midwest person who's always 105 00:05:48,116 --> 00:05:49,116 Speaker 2: like where are you from? 106 00:05:49,156 --> 00:05:49,756 Speaker 1: Like what do you do? 107 00:05:49,836 --> 00:05:51,996 Speaker 2: Blah blah blah, Like I always kind of chat and 108 00:05:52,116 --> 00:05:55,516 Speaker 2: make the newbie feel welcome, and then they would bring 109 00:05:55,516 --> 00:05:56,996 Speaker 2: people I don't know, we just sort. 110 00:05:56,796 --> 00:05:57,996 Speaker 1: Of word of mouth. 111 00:05:58,036 --> 00:06:00,556 Speaker 3: We found out other people also ran, and we would 112 00:06:00,556 --> 00:06:03,156 Speaker 3: say meet us. So we just send out a group 113 00:06:03,436 --> 00:06:08,076 Speaker 3: email or text saying this time, this place, whoever can 114 00:06:08,116 --> 00:06:11,436 Speaker 3: go goes. And there would be times when there'd be 115 00:06:11,476 --> 00:06:13,516 Speaker 3: ten of us running, but then there'd be times when 116 00:06:13,516 --> 00:06:16,316 Speaker 3: there would be three or four. But everyone knew that 117 00:06:16,356 --> 00:06:17,756 Speaker 3: there was always going to be a run on the 118 00:06:17,756 --> 00:06:20,156 Speaker 3: weekend or in the morning, and you could just join in. 119 00:06:20,596 --> 00:06:23,196 Speaker 2: And now it's funny because in the beginning we used 120 00:06:23,196 --> 00:06:24,476 Speaker 2: to run a lot like we would do like a 121 00:06:24,516 --> 00:06:28,916 Speaker 2: ten mile run, and sometimes there would only be one 122 00:06:28,956 --> 00:06:31,876 Speaker 2: other person on this ten mile run, and in your 123 00:06:31,916 --> 00:06:33,596 Speaker 2: head the night before, you're thinking, what am I going 124 00:06:33,636 --> 00:06:35,636 Speaker 2: to talk to her about? For ten miles? I don't 125 00:06:35,636 --> 00:06:39,236 Speaker 2: have that much to say, and almost a nervousness. And 126 00:06:39,316 --> 00:06:41,876 Speaker 2: now you would never be nervous to be with one 127 00:06:41,916 --> 00:06:43,996 Speaker 2: on one with anybody in the group like we are 128 00:06:44,076 --> 00:06:47,796 Speaker 2: just so like all very connected and a lot of 129 00:06:47,836 --> 00:06:50,956 Speaker 2: our fun in the beginning because we were busy and 130 00:06:50,996 --> 00:06:53,076 Speaker 2: it was a big deal to like escape for the 131 00:06:53,156 --> 00:06:55,916 Speaker 2: day your responsibilities as a mom, Like we would do 132 00:06:55,916 --> 00:07:00,116 Speaker 2: the Harpoon five miler and we would do road races 133 00:07:00,196 --> 00:07:02,716 Speaker 2: and then we would go out for drinks or lunch 134 00:07:02,796 --> 00:07:06,316 Speaker 2: or something after and be like together for the day. 135 00:07:06,356 --> 00:07:09,676 Speaker 1: That was really like our beginnings of fun the story 136 00:07:09,716 --> 00:07:12,756 Speaker 1: because it seems like there is some worry about, like 137 00:07:12,836 --> 00:07:15,236 Speaker 1: will this actually be really enjoyable? I don't really know 138 00:07:15,316 --> 00:07:17,796 Speaker 1: this person. But that's really what the science shows about 139 00:07:17,836 --> 00:07:20,036 Speaker 1: the power of social connection, right, is that like, it's 140 00:07:20,076 --> 00:07:22,076 Speaker 1: going to be more enjoyable than you think it's going 141 00:07:22,116 --> 00:07:22,316 Speaker 1: to be. 142 00:07:22,516 --> 00:07:25,276 Speaker 4: Well, that's actually one of the surprising things about the 143 00:07:25,276 --> 00:07:25,836 Speaker 4: funder vention. 144 00:07:26,036 --> 00:07:26,356 Speaker 1: For me. 145 00:07:26,836 --> 00:07:30,636 Speaker 4: It's not so much the activity, but sometimes we'll throw 146 00:07:30,636 --> 00:07:33,316 Speaker 4: a date out and how we started it was if 147 00:07:33,316 --> 00:07:35,756 Speaker 4: you're the person doing the fund prevention, you say, it's 148 00:07:35,756 --> 00:07:38,316 Speaker 4: going to be this date. This is what we're doing, 149 00:07:38,716 --> 00:07:42,276 Speaker 4: and maybe everybody can come, maybe only two people can come. 150 00:07:42,676 --> 00:07:45,876 Speaker 4: And what I love is I'll be out at a 151 00:07:45,956 --> 00:07:49,036 Speaker 4: funtervention and it'll be with two people in the group 152 00:07:49,076 --> 00:07:52,676 Speaker 4: that I wouldn't normally spend the day with, and you 153 00:07:52,756 --> 00:07:55,436 Speaker 4: get to know them so much better and you realize 154 00:07:55,476 --> 00:08:00,316 Speaker 4: that different combinations really get along great and have so 155 00:08:00,436 --> 00:08:03,876 Speaker 4: much fun, and so it's very different experience and when 156 00:08:03,876 --> 00:08:04,956 Speaker 4: the whole group is there. 157 00:08:05,276 --> 00:08:08,116 Speaker 1: So that was surprising to me and just for some facts. 158 00:08:08,116 --> 00:08:09,876 Speaker 1: So how big is the running group now? Like? How 159 00:08:09,876 --> 00:08:10,316 Speaker 1: many people? 160 00:08:10,356 --> 00:08:12,636 Speaker 3: So there's thirteen of us now we started as fifteen 161 00:08:12,836 --> 00:08:15,596 Speaker 3: two moved away, so there's thirteen of us that are 162 00:08:15,596 --> 00:08:18,956 Speaker 3: on this running group text where we talk about just 163 00:08:18,996 --> 00:08:24,036 Speaker 3: about every everything but also run and walk and plan 164 00:08:24,116 --> 00:08:25,676 Speaker 3: activities and now we do Yeah. 165 00:08:25,596 --> 00:08:28,476 Speaker 2: The funny and the running group is the fundarevention group, 166 00:08:28,596 --> 00:08:31,156 Speaker 2: Like it's the whole running group. And I think we're 167 00:08:31,196 --> 00:08:33,676 Speaker 2: always like if we're telling stories to our family or 168 00:08:33,716 --> 00:08:36,196 Speaker 2: other friends, we're always like, oh, my running group, my 169 00:08:36,316 --> 00:08:37,836 Speaker 2: running group, my running friends. 170 00:08:37,916 --> 00:08:40,996 Speaker 1: Who it is even only half of us from that? Yeah, 171 00:08:41,036 --> 00:08:44,356 Speaker 1: exactly exactly. And so how did so I'm curious, like 172 00:08:44,436 --> 00:08:47,156 Speaker 1: who the person was in the running group that first 173 00:08:47,196 --> 00:08:50,636 Speaker 1: mentioned my podcast or get into the podcast now everybody's 174 00:08:50,636 --> 00:08:52,436 Speaker 1: pointing it out. Yeah, and so how did you find 175 00:08:52,436 --> 00:08:53,116 Speaker 1: out about the show? 176 00:08:53,836 --> 00:08:56,236 Speaker 2: I saw you on the Today Show and I was 177 00:08:56,396 --> 00:09:03,796 Speaker 2: slightly obsessed, and I just like, I I love being 178 00:09:04,556 --> 00:09:05,956 Speaker 2: a lot of us do like want to be our 179 00:09:05,956 --> 00:09:08,596 Speaker 2: best self basically and always looking for self improvement, Like 180 00:09:08,596 --> 00:09:11,236 Speaker 2: we all sort of have our roles in the running 181 00:09:11,276 --> 00:09:14,956 Speaker 2: group and also in the fun direventions and I'm always 182 00:09:15,516 --> 00:09:20,436 Speaker 2: sending people podcasts like something that sparks my interest that 183 00:09:20,476 --> 00:09:23,836 Speaker 2: I think people will like, and yours. 184 00:09:23,596 --> 00:09:25,876 Speaker 1: Was often one that I said. 185 00:09:25,916 --> 00:09:28,836 Speaker 2: But the Fun Dirrevention one, I was like, oh my gosh, 186 00:09:28,876 --> 00:09:30,836 Speaker 2: we need to do that, Like, we need to do this. 187 00:09:30,836 --> 00:09:33,556 Speaker 1: This is awesome. You spoke at the PC graduation and 188 00:09:33,676 --> 00:09:39,796 Speaker 1: she even to you, you broke in with you. So 189 00:09:39,836 --> 00:09:42,116 Speaker 1: I'm curious what you what you remember from the front 190 00:09:42,116 --> 00:09:44,876 Speaker 1: Divention episode, like what was so compelling about it when 191 00:09:44,876 --> 00:09:45,636 Speaker 1: you first heard it? 192 00:09:46,556 --> 00:09:49,476 Speaker 3: What I loved was when you said, so many times 193 00:09:49,476 --> 00:09:51,516 Speaker 3: people say, oh that was so fun, but was it 194 00:09:51,636 --> 00:09:52,276 Speaker 3: really fun? 195 00:09:52,356 --> 00:09:54,556 Speaker 1: And what does fun mean to you? 196 00:09:54,796 --> 00:09:58,436 Speaker 3: And going through that fun audit of like think of 197 00:09:58,476 --> 00:10:00,716 Speaker 3: the times that you were having the most fun and 198 00:10:00,756 --> 00:10:03,596 Speaker 3: what were you doing, who were you with, where were 199 00:10:03,636 --> 00:10:06,476 Speaker 3: you and you can start to see the things that 200 00:10:06,516 --> 00:10:09,396 Speaker 3: really are fun to you. And we kind of hook 201 00:10:09,476 --> 00:10:11,676 Speaker 3: that and ran with it with this Fun Prevention, because, 202 00:10:11,716 --> 00:10:14,476 Speaker 3: as Lisa said, everybody gets a chance to pick something 203 00:10:14,916 --> 00:10:17,196 Speaker 3: and it's what's fun to them that they either want 204 00:10:17,196 --> 00:10:19,356 Speaker 3: to do because they've never done before, or they want 205 00:10:19,396 --> 00:10:23,316 Speaker 3: to share with others something they have done. And so 206 00:10:23,596 --> 00:10:26,716 Speaker 3: I think that and then I just loved because I 207 00:10:26,756 --> 00:10:29,316 Speaker 3: loved being goofy and having fun. I loved when you're 208 00:10:29,316 --> 00:10:32,196 Speaker 3: talking about the surfing and I could just picture it. 209 00:10:32,236 --> 00:10:35,076 Speaker 1: And then we did crosscually do the surfing, but we 210 00:10:35,156 --> 00:10:35,596 Speaker 1: just got the. 211 00:10:35,516 --> 00:10:38,196 Speaker 3: Weather right well, and I don't think everybody. 212 00:10:37,796 --> 00:10:40,116 Speaker 1: Was up for Yeah, that was a little dangerous, I think, 213 00:10:40,196 --> 00:10:42,996 Speaker 1: but when we did dangerous, it was just a silly 214 00:10:42,996 --> 00:10:44,156 Speaker 1: podcast done even for me. 215 00:10:44,236 --> 00:10:46,556 Speaker 3: I did do cross country skiing and Natalie and I 216 00:10:46,636 --> 00:10:49,036 Speaker 3: laughed the whole time because we were always falling down 217 00:10:49,236 --> 00:10:51,516 Speaker 3: and people are trying to help us and we didn't care. 218 00:10:51,916 --> 00:10:54,196 Speaker 3: And it was That's kind of resonated with me when 219 00:10:54,236 --> 00:10:56,436 Speaker 3: you said that about just being goofy and not caring 220 00:10:56,476 --> 00:10:58,756 Speaker 3: if you fail, just getting out there and doing it. 221 00:10:58,956 --> 00:11:02,116 Speaker 1: Any other parts that resonated, or the other thing that. 222 00:11:04,156 --> 00:11:07,276 Speaker 2: When I listened to it, I thought about the world 223 00:11:07,396 --> 00:11:09,276 Speaker 2: isn't a really exciting place, and there's so much any 224 00:11:09,316 --> 00:11:11,196 Speaker 2: fun things to do, and you get caught in your 225 00:11:11,316 --> 00:11:14,956 Speaker 2: normal and your routine. And I think, you know, if 226 00:11:14,956 --> 00:11:19,276 Speaker 2: you think about thirteen people with families and busy schedules, 227 00:11:19,276 --> 00:11:22,076 Speaker 2: like we would say we should go celebrate you know, 228 00:11:22,196 --> 00:11:24,276 Speaker 2: Jen's birthday or something, or we should do something, and 229 00:11:24,316 --> 00:11:27,916 Speaker 2: it's like everyone's competing schedules that you could ever find 230 00:11:27,956 --> 00:11:29,636 Speaker 2: a date that would work for everybody, and. 231 00:11:29,596 --> 00:11:31,836 Speaker 1: Then we would move it out and move it out. 232 00:11:31,876 --> 00:11:33,516 Speaker 2: And I was like, we should just like pick a 233 00:11:33,596 --> 00:11:36,716 Speaker 2: month and just you do what works for you and 234 00:11:36,796 --> 00:11:39,036 Speaker 2: set something up that you think seems fun and don't 235 00:11:39,076 --> 00:11:42,876 Speaker 2: don't clear it with anybody, don't see who can just 236 00:11:43,036 --> 00:11:45,636 Speaker 2: be Like people aren't really ever selfish, like be do 237 00:11:45,756 --> 00:11:49,596 Speaker 2: something that's completely you've been wanting to try that works 238 00:11:49,596 --> 00:11:50,196 Speaker 2: for your schedule. 239 00:11:50,236 --> 00:11:51,636 Speaker 1: Whoever can come, can come. 240 00:11:52,236 --> 00:11:55,356 Speaker 2: I also really liked in the podcast talking about like 241 00:11:55,836 --> 00:11:58,316 Speaker 2: losing track of time and flow, like that's how I 242 00:11:58,316 --> 00:12:00,876 Speaker 2: feel when I cooked, and I love cooking, So I 243 00:12:00,916 --> 00:12:01,876 Speaker 2: love that feeling. 244 00:12:02,316 --> 00:12:06,596 Speaker 1: And I also liked the idea of like connection. 245 00:12:06,956 --> 00:12:11,316 Speaker 2: And I think almost anything, even if it's not really 246 00:12:11,396 --> 00:12:14,756 Speaker 2: like fun, can be fun if you're with the right people. 247 00:12:15,036 --> 00:12:16,076 Speaker 1: Totally, totally. 248 00:12:16,156 --> 00:12:21,956 Speaker 3: Yeah, the playfulness, connection, flow combination I think is very unique. 249 00:12:21,996 --> 00:12:25,556 Speaker 1: It's hard to get, but to get all them, yeah, exactly, 250 00:12:25,836 --> 00:12:26,476 Speaker 1: it really is. 251 00:12:26,836 --> 00:12:29,036 Speaker 3: I also liked what you said in one of the 252 00:12:29,036 --> 00:12:33,956 Speaker 3: interviews in the podcast about little delights, and so I 253 00:12:34,036 --> 00:12:37,276 Speaker 3: actually started a notebook of little delights, but I love 254 00:12:37,316 --> 00:12:40,276 Speaker 3: that idea that like even just simple things that happen 255 00:12:40,956 --> 00:12:44,236 Speaker 3: or you see that you can say, wow, how amazing 256 00:12:44,356 --> 00:12:48,076 Speaker 3: is that and just take a minute to think about 257 00:12:48,116 --> 00:12:49,316 Speaker 3: it and record it. 258 00:12:49,916 --> 00:12:52,276 Speaker 1: And you mentioned doing the fun audit. Is that something 259 00:12:52,276 --> 00:12:54,396 Speaker 1: you all did with the group or that you did. 260 00:12:54,396 --> 00:12:56,556 Speaker 2: So it tried to do it and then I gave up. 261 00:12:56,636 --> 00:12:58,116 Speaker 2: I think like it's hard. 262 00:12:58,396 --> 00:13:01,316 Speaker 1: It's hard. Sometimes it's hard to really remember the kinds 263 00:13:01,356 --> 00:13:04,196 Speaker 1: of things that you know you enjoyed and you had 264 00:13:04,196 --> 00:13:06,036 Speaker 1: fun doing. I've talked to other people who've done the 265 00:13:06,076 --> 00:13:08,636 Speaker 1: fun audits and they say, it's just kind of embarrassing 266 00:13:08,676 --> 00:13:11,156 Speaker 1: because the things I'm talking about were like when I 267 00:13:11,196 --> 00:13:13,556 Speaker 1: was twenty two, and you know, you're in midlife now, 268 00:13:13,596 --> 00:13:15,756 Speaker 1: and so it feels embarrassing to feel like you didn't 269 00:13:15,756 --> 00:13:18,996 Speaker 1: do that many fun things for a while. But I'm 270 00:13:19,036 --> 00:13:20,996 Speaker 1: curious what was on your fun auditgen. 271 00:13:21,116 --> 00:13:26,516 Speaker 3: My fun audit, my fun factors were activities, some type 272 00:13:26,516 --> 00:13:31,956 Speaker 3: of laughing, goofy with friends games. So from my fun prevention, 273 00:13:32,116 --> 00:13:36,076 Speaker 3: I picked a scavenger hunt, which has all those elements, 274 00:13:36,196 --> 00:13:38,636 Speaker 3: And I think I like those types of things where 275 00:13:38,836 --> 00:13:40,796 Speaker 3: you just can have fun and be goofy. But it's 276 00:13:40,836 --> 00:13:44,036 Speaker 3: activity based too, and there's some you know thinking and 277 00:13:44,076 --> 00:13:45,196 Speaker 3: strategy and. 278 00:13:45,516 --> 00:13:48,716 Speaker 1: It was a game. Yeah, that was a really fun one. 279 00:13:48,916 --> 00:13:50,996 Speaker 1: It was good. And so Lisa, what were the rules 280 00:13:51,036 --> 00:13:53,076 Speaker 1: of the fun prevention? Because it kind of had some 281 00:13:53,116 --> 00:13:55,356 Speaker 1: structure too, right, it did a little bit. 282 00:13:55,476 --> 00:13:57,116 Speaker 4: I think at first we all kind of freaked out 283 00:13:57,116 --> 00:14:00,916 Speaker 4: and thought we had to have these really cool, you know, 284 00:14:01,596 --> 00:14:05,876 Speaker 4: complex things, and then we kind of settled into no, 285 00:14:06,036 --> 00:14:09,156 Speaker 4: it's just something you really just wanted to do and 286 00:14:09,316 --> 00:14:12,076 Speaker 4: haven't done it. And then you found out that someone 287 00:14:12,116 --> 00:14:14,396 Speaker 4: else was like, oh my gosh, I always wanted to do. 288 00:14:14,476 --> 00:14:15,516 Speaker 1: That fits your months. 289 00:14:15,956 --> 00:14:18,636 Speaker 4: You pick the activity and you pick the date that 290 00:14:18,716 --> 00:14:21,836 Speaker 4: works for you, and some months everybody can do it. 291 00:14:21,916 --> 00:14:24,516 Speaker 4: Some months, three or four people can do it. And 292 00:14:25,156 --> 00:14:27,276 Speaker 4: you know, initially, of course we all start to feel 293 00:14:27,316 --> 00:14:30,556 Speaker 4: bad and well, maybe next Saturdays better, and we have 294 00:14:30,596 --> 00:14:33,996 Speaker 4: to stop ourselves because we made these rules at the beginning. 295 00:14:34,556 --> 00:14:37,276 Speaker 4: And then really, it could be anything We've gone to 296 00:14:37,356 --> 00:14:40,596 Speaker 4: Block Island because someone it's one of their happy places 297 00:14:40,636 --> 00:14:43,836 Speaker 4: and they wanted everybody else to experience that, or walks 298 00:14:43,836 --> 00:14:46,796 Speaker 4: along the beach and then beer at Cisco Brewery and 299 00:14:46,836 --> 00:14:47,436 Speaker 4: New Bedford. 300 00:14:47,716 --> 00:14:50,556 Speaker 1: Yeah, so let's walk through the arranging. Yeah, let's walk 301 00:14:50,556 --> 00:14:54,396 Speaker 1: through some of the favorites of it. Yeah, okay. 302 00:14:54,556 --> 00:14:57,596 Speaker 3: So some of the unique ones we did was we 303 00:14:57,636 --> 00:14:58,596 Speaker 3: did a salt cave. 304 00:14:58,796 --> 00:15:00,836 Speaker 1: Salt cave sounds amazing. Why is a salt cave? 305 00:15:00,836 --> 00:15:03,276 Speaker 4: Though, I think it's kind of a new concept. It's 306 00:15:03,316 --> 00:15:07,636 Speaker 4: a room that is covered with salt. It's low lit, 307 00:15:07,716 --> 00:15:11,436 Speaker 4: and it's requiet and it's meditative. 308 00:15:12,196 --> 00:15:15,036 Speaker 1: We did do that, and there's a lot of giggling. 309 00:15:15,916 --> 00:15:18,076 Speaker 4: We've gotten kicked out of a lot of spats because 310 00:15:18,516 --> 00:15:21,036 Speaker 4: it's supposed to be the quiet room and we're talking 311 00:15:21,156 --> 00:15:21,876 Speaker 4: and giggling. 312 00:15:22,036 --> 00:15:25,476 Speaker 3: We also did wreaths around the holidays, and that was 313 00:15:25,516 --> 00:15:28,236 Speaker 3: another fun. It was fun to line them all up 314 00:15:28,276 --> 00:15:31,356 Speaker 3: and take pictures. We did floral arranging. There's a lot 315 00:15:31,396 --> 00:15:33,396 Speaker 3: more to it than I think we realized, which was 316 00:15:33,516 --> 00:15:33,996 Speaker 3: very fun. 317 00:15:34,156 --> 00:15:36,116 Speaker 1: Were people good at it or was that something you 318 00:15:36,156 --> 00:15:38,036 Speaker 1: had to engage some self compassion for. 319 00:15:39,476 --> 00:15:42,116 Speaker 3: What was interesting is even though we were all told 320 00:15:42,236 --> 00:15:45,356 Speaker 3: what to do, everybody's came out different and the different. 321 00:15:45,956 --> 00:15:48,156 Speaker 1: So what was the first fun prevention the first one 322 00:15:48,156 --> 00:15:50,396 Speaker 1: that you all went on together, Natalie. 323 00:15:50,036 --> 00:15:52,436 Speaker 2: I think it was ver Nice's actually, So we did 324 00:15:52,516 --> 00:15:56,316 Speaker 2: a friend had a house in the cape in Falmouth 325 00:15:56,316 --> 00:15:58,356 Speaker 2: and had enough bikes for all of us where people 326 00:15:58,436 --> 00:16:00,756 Speaker 2: brought bikes and we just took a simple bike ride 327 00:16:01,156 --> 00:16:05,156 Speaker 2: along her favorite path, went out for lunch and drinks after, 328 00:16:05,196 --> 00:16:06,036 Speaker 2: and then biked back. 329 00:16:06,476 --> 00:16:08,516 Speaker 1: And what was the reaction that, like how many people 330 00:16:08,556 --> 00:16:14,276 Speaker 1: did it? Kind of at first like six to eight 331 00:16:14,356 --> 00:16:15,996 Speaker 1: maybe six A good. 332 00:16:16,276 --> 00:16:18,916 Speaker 2: I feel like that one too, was like before it 333 00:16:18,956 --> 00:16:21,156 Speaker 2: was really official, if that makes any sense, Like she 334 00:16:21,276 --> 00:16:24,516 Speaker 2: sort of got it going. It was sort of like 335 00:16:24,516 --> 00:16:28,396 Speaker 2: like a little more loose before we really like assigned months. 336 00:16:28,396 --> 00:16:31,836 Speaker 2: So the first one with like the assigned months was 337 00:16:31,876 --> 00:16:34,276 Speaker 2: the Salt Cave, and that I want to say it 338 00:16:34,316 --> 00:16:37,356 Speaker 2: was almost all of us and it was in Situate 339 00:16:37,436 --> 00:16:39,156 Speaker 2: and it was a friend's. 340 00:16:40,316 --> 00:16:40,796 Speaker 1: Relative. 341 00:16:40,796 --> 00:16:42,716 Speaker 2: Our friend owned it, and so she wanted to give 342 00:16:42,956 --> 00:16:45,996 Speaker 2: her some exposure and bring this group group to the 343 00:16:46,036 --> 00:16:49,996 Speaker 2: Salt Cave. And it was just very relaxing, something that 344 00:16:50,116 --> 00:16:52,676 Speaker 2: no one had done, and really we all enjoyed it. 345 00:16:52,716 --> 00:16:55,236 Speaker 2: And then I guess it's going to keep coming back. 346 00:16:55,276 --> 00:16:58,156 Speaker 2: Like everything we do, we end up then going out 347 00:16:58,276 --> 00:17:00,956 Speaker 2: after like for food or drink or something. So then 348 00:17:00,956 --> 00:17:03,316 Speaker 2: we did the Salt Cave and then we had brunch 349 00:17:03,476 --> 00:17:05,116 Speaker 2: at a really nice restaurant, And. 350 00:17:05,076 --> 00:17:09,036 Speaker 1: Have you tried to incorporate this idea of like playful flow. 351 00:17:09,196 --> 00:17:10,836 Speaker 1: I know you get the connection a lot because you're 352 00:17:10,876 --> 00:17:12,276 Speaker 1: all together, but I. 353 00:17:12,196 --> 00:17:15,636 Speaker 3: Think some activities are more playful than others. But I 354 00:17:15,676 --> 00:17:20,356 Speaker 3: think the connection the flow because we always find new 355 00:17:20,356 --> 00:17:23,316 Speaker 3: things to talk about or there's something that someone's going 356 00:17:23,356 --> 00:17:26,156 Speaker 3: through that they want to share. And we're also I 357 00:17:26,196 --> 00:17:29,596 Speaker 3: think all like fun and like to be goofy and 358 00:17:29,676 --> 00:17:30,516 Speaker 3: just enjoy each other. 359 00:17:30,796 --> 00:17:35,636 Speaker 2: Scavenger Hunt was definitely a lot of playfulness, like because 360 00:17:35,636 --> 00:17:38,196 Speaker 2: we engaged with the public, like we had to, like 361 00:17:38,556 --> 00:17:41,316 Speaker 2: I remember like one of them was like clucking around 362 00:17:41,356 --> 00:17:43,516 Speaker 2: a crad, like pretending you're a duck and you have 363 00:17:43,596 --> 00:17:45,796 Speaker 2: to cluck around people. Or we had to get people 364 00:17:45,796 --> 00:17:47,916 Speaker 2: to do a congo line with us, and we did 365 00:17:47,916 --> 00:17:51,316 Speaker 2: it and we have like videos and pictures to prove it. 366 00:17:51,396 --> 00:17:54,796 Speaker 1: Like that was the most playful, and it was competitive 367 00:17:54,796 --> 00:17:58,196 Speaker 1: because we're two teams, we are very one, which we did. 368 00:18:02,636 --> 00:18:05,676 Speaker 1: Being playful and finding flow are two key components and 369 00:18:05,716 --> 00:18:08,956 Speaker 1: selecting a good fund prevention activity. But often when we 370 00:18:08,956 --> 00:18:11,356 Speaker 1: think about what might be fun, were tempted to return 371 00:18:11,396 --> 00:18:14,796 Speaker 1: to familiar pleasures. Hobbies are sports that we've long mastered. 372 00:18:15,196 --> 00:18:17,356 Speaker 1: But when I first embarked on my own fender vention, 373 00:18:17,676 --> 00:18:19,676 Speaker 1: I picked a new activity that I was bound to 374 00:18:19,716 --> 00:18:22,076 Speaker 1: suck at and one that took me to a location 375 00:18:22,316 --> 00:18:25,516 Speaker 1: where I felt very much out of place, the beach. 376 00:18:26,196 --> 00:18:28,876 Speaker 1: I went surfing. I'm also very happy it doesn't seem 377 00:18:28,876 --> 00:18:30,436 Speaker 1: like me have this one very far out because the 378 00:18:30,476 --> 00:18:33,116 Speaker 1: waves were out there and they're like move drown it. It 379 00:18:32,996 --> 00:18:35,636 Speaker 1: feels like I could walk round. After the break, I'll 380 00:18:35,636 --> 00:18:37,916 Speaker 1: talk to Natalie, Lisa and Jen about the fun that 381 00:18:37,956 --> 00:18:41,116 Speaker 1: you can have by pushing yourself out of your comfort zone. 382 00:18:41,236 --> 00:18:43,636 Speaker 1: The three friends will also share their top tips for 383 00:18:43,756 --> 00:18:47,196 Speaker 1: making fun a regular part of your routine. The Happiness 384 00:18:47,276 --> 00:18:57,436 Speaker 1: Lab will be right back a few years ago. If 385 00:18:57,476 --> 00:18:59,956 Speaker 1: someone had asked me what I did for fun, I'd 386 00:18:59,956 --> 00:19:02,116 Speaker 1: probably have struggled to come up with a good answer. 387 00:19:02,636 --> 00:19:05,236 Speaker 1: After a moment, I might say something like, uh, I 388 00:19:05,236 --> 00:19:07,196 Speaker 1: don't know. I guess I just watch Netflix. 389 00:19:08,036 --> 00:19:08,276 Speaker 4: Now. 390 00:19:08,316 --> 00:19:10,556 Speaker 1: There's nothing wrong with curlling up on the sofa to 391 00:19:10,596 --> 00:19:14,516 Speaker 1: binge your favorite series. It's familiar and comfortable, but research 392 00:19:14,516 --> 00:19:17,596 Speaker 1: shows there's real value in being adventurous and pushing the 393 00:19:17,636 --> 00:19:20,196 Speaker 1: boundaries of what you're willing to do in pursuit of fun. 394 00:19:21,356 --> 00:19:23,996 Speaker 1: I took a surfing lesson with friends and was fully 395 00:19:24,036 --> 00:19:27,156 Speaker 1: expecting it to be miserable. But despite all my fears 396 00:19:27,156 --> 00:19:30,276 Speaker 1: of drowning, shark attacks and looking dumb, I had an 397 00:19:30,316 --> 00:19:33,596 Speaker 1: absolute blast. Was the best thing I've ever done that 398 00:19:33,636 --> 00:19:35,316 Speaker 1: was super fun. I was really scared when I was. 399 00:19:37,396 --> 00:19:40,156 Speaker 1: When the members of a Massachusetts running club began injecting 400 00:19:40,156 --> 00:19:43,116 Speaker 1: more fun into their lives, they too decided to try 401 00:19:43,156 --> 00:19:47,276 Speaker 1: some pretty unlikely activities, including picking up lethal weapons. 402 00:19:47,756 --> 00:19:50,396 Speaker 4: So the one that I think we had no idea 403 00:19:50,516 --> 00:19:52,156 Speaker 4: how hard it was going to be was when we 404 00:19:52,196 --> 00:19:54,156 Speaker 4: went and learned to shoot crossbows. 405 00:19:54,396 --> 00:19:55,556 Speaker 1: None of us had ever done it. 406 00:19:55,556 --> 00:19:58,236 Speaker 4: It was so out of all of our element but 407 00:19:58,356 --> 00:20:02,076 Speaker 4: we all were terrible and we laughed, and the guys 408 00:20:02,116 --> 00:20:04,116 Speaker 4: that taught us didn't know what to make of us 409 00:20:04,476 --> 00:20:06,996 Speaker 4: at the beginning, and then at the end we were 410 00:20:06,996 --> 00:20:10,716 Speaker 4: all laughing and like great friends and enjoyed it. And 411 00:20:10,756 --> 00:20:12,716 Speaker 4: I did not hit the bulls eye once or even 412 00:20:12,756 --> 00:20:13,836 Speaker 4: the target. 413 00:20:13,956 --> 00:20:16,036 Speaker 1: The picture and the dots were all over. They were 414 00:20:16,156 --> 00:20:20,676 Speaker 1: very worried about our safety the whole time. So, Natalie, 415 00:20:20,756 --> 00:20:22,996 Speaker 1: you mentioned another one that pushed your boundaries. So we 416 00:20:23,516 --> 00:20:24,076 Speaker 1: had one. 417 00:20:24,716 --> 00:20:28,676 Speaker 2: It was like a pilates kind of gym class and 418 00:20:28,756 --> 00:20:30,916 Speaker 2: everybody was like, I'm scared, but I'll do it. Like 419 00:20:30,956 --> 00:20:32,836 Speaker 2: all of us were like, I'm scared. I'm not going 420 00:20:32,876 --> 00:20:35,156 Speaker 2: to be very good at this. So that was one 421 00:20:35,236 --> 00:20:37,716 Speaker 2: that was completely like pushed us out of our comfort 422 00:20:37,836 --> 00:20:41,356 Speaker 2: zone and it was fun and it was Some of 423 00:20:41,436 --> 00:20:43,676 Speaker 2: us weren't as sore the next day as we thought 424 00:20:43,716 --> 00:20:46,156 Speaker 2: we would be, so we are convinced we didn't do 425 00:20:46,236 --> 00:20:48,796 Speaker 2: it right, not that we are like in great shape. 426 00:20:49,276 --> 00:20:52,716 Speaker 2: And then cross country skiing, like Jen said, was another 427 00:20:52,756 --> 00:20:56,436 Speaker 2: one where that was mine and I was I've always 428 00:20:56,556 --> 00:21:00,796 Speaker 2: wanted to try it, and when we planned it, all 429 00:21:00,796 --> 00:21:03,596 Speaker 2: the lessons were full, so we just had to wing 430 00:21:03,676 --> 00:21:06,316 Speaker 2: it and we didn't know what we were doing. Some 431 00:21:06,356 --> 00:21:08,756 Speaker 2: people did, Jen and I did not, and but it 432 00:21:08,796 --> 00:21:12,756 Speaker 2: was fun, you know, it was just playful, silly falling, 433 00:21:13,716 --> 00:21:16,396 Speaker 2: and it made for me. It made me want to 434 00:21:16,436 --> 00:21:19,396 Speaker 2: go back and actually take a lesson so that I 435 00:21:19,396 --> 00:21:22,516 Speaker 2: could really learn how to do it and maybe do 436 00:21:22,596 --> 00:21:23,036 Speaker 2: it more. 437 00:21:23,356 --> 00:21:25,236 Speaker 1: I love this. I do that. There are activities that 438 00:21:25,276 --> 00:21:27,036 Speaker 1: people thought I'm going to hate this, I don't want 439 00:21:27,036 --> 00:21:28,876 Speaker 1: to do it, but I'll go anyway, you know, there's 440 00:21:28,916 --> 00:21:30,996 Speaker 1: this kind of help that the group gives you to 441 00:21:30,996 --> 00:21:32,996 Speaker 1: give you a little bit more confidence or maybe I'll 442 00:21:32,996 --> 00:21:34,756 Speaker 1: try it, you know, because everyone else is doing it. 443 00:21:35,036 --> 00:21:38,276 Speaker 1: I mean, what is that done for your confidence levels? 444 00:21:38,316 --> 00:21:41,156 Speaker 1: I imagine that trying these things out when you thought, oh, 445 00:21:41,196 --> 00:21:42,596 Speaker 1: I'm going to just be terrible at this, I'm going 446 00:21:42,676 --> 00:21:45,236 Speaker 1: to suck, and then it was okay, Like that does 447 00:21:45,276 --> 00:21:47,596 Speaker 1: that help you do new things in the future. I 448 00:21:47,676 --> 00:21:48,356 Speaker 1: think it does. 449 00:21:48,516 --> 00:21:53,076 Speaker 3: I feel like we no one's judging anyone. We all 450 00:21:53,116 --> 00:21:55,916 Speaker 3: just want to experience it together, and some of us 451 00:21:55,956 --> 00:21:58,276 Speaker 3: will be better than others. There are definitely some more 452 00:21:58,396 --> 00:22:02,076 Speaker 3: natural athletes than others in the group, but no one 453 00:22:02,116 --> 00:22:05,516 Speaker 3: feels embarrassed or feels bad if they're not good. We 454 00:22:05,636 --> 00:22:08,436 Speaker 3: just laugh and just enjoy the experience together. And so 455 00:22:08,516 --> 00:22:10,756 Speaker 3: I think that give you the confidence to say yes 456 00:22:10,836 --> 00:22:15,276 Speaker 3: when someone brings up another idea that maybe goat yoga 457 00:22:15,356 --> 00:22:17,036 Speaker 3: was the other one that just came up recently that 458 00:22:17,116 --> 00:22:19,196 Speaker 3: hasn't been scheduled yet, but some people are like, oh, 459 00:22:19,156 --> 00:22:19,636 Speaker 3: I don't know. 460 00:22:19,836 --> 00:22:21,036 Speaker 1: But I'll do it, okay. 461 00:22:21,836 --> 00:22:25,236 Speaker 2: I think some of it too, is no one wants 462 00:22:25,276 --> 00:22:27,796 Speaker 2: to miss it, even if you're not interested in the event. 463 00:22:28,556 --> 00:22:31,076 Speaker 2: But you're free, you'll go because you want to be 464 00:22:31,116 --> 00:22:31,796 Speaker 2: with everybody. 465 00:22:32,476 --> 00:22:33,916 Speaker 1: And I think that's the kind of thing where it 466 00:22:33,956 --> 00:22:37,196 Speaker 1: can that benefit of social connection can really push you 467 00:22:37,396 --> 00:22:39,596 Speaker 1: to take part in these activities that you might not 468 00:22:39,676 --> 00:22:41,956 Speaker 1: have gone to, but itevably are going to be more 469 00:22:41,996 --> 00:22:43,556 Speaker 1: fun than you think. I think this is a big 470 00:22:43,556 --> 00:22:45,756 Speaker 1: problem with the mind as that we assume, oh, that'll 471 00:22:45,756 --> 00:22:47,636 Speaker 1: feel like too much work, or I won't enjoy that, 472 00:22:47,756 --> 00:22:49,476 Speaker 1: or I won't be good at that, and that can 473 00:22:49,516 --> 00:22:51,716 Speaker 1: cause us not to go. But when you have the 474 00:22:51,796 --> 00:22:55,316 Speaker 1: kind of camaraderie, maybe slash pressure of the group, like 475 00:22:55,356 --> 00:22:57,396 Speaker 1: you kind of have to go to these things. 476 00:22:57,236 --> 00:23:00,396 Speaker 4: Exactly, and some of us are just better at finding 477 00:23:00,436 --> 00:23:04,636 Speaker 4: these events and our better planners, and others of us 478 00:23:05,276 --> 00:23:07,476 Speaker 4: like myself are just always have my hands up, yep, 479 00:23:07,516 --> 00:23:09,996 Speaker 4: I'll do it, Yep, I'll do it, or followers. So 480 00:23:10,076 --> 00:23:13,156 Speaker 4: for me it's great because I don't I don't innately 481 00:23:13,276 --> 00:23:16,196 Speaker 4: find these activities like you guys are so good at that, 482 00:23:16,636 --> 00:23:18,396 Speaker 4: but I will definitely always join in. 483 00:23:19,196 --> 00:23:22,156 Speaker 3: And we've done more than even just activities. We've gone 484 00:23:22,156 --> 00:23:25,036 Speaker 3: to plays together. We have a book club that the 485 00:23:25,116 --> 00:23:28,836 Speaker 3: running group is does every month, so we also like 486 00:23:28,916 --> 00:23:31,716 Speaker 3: to listen to podcasts. 487 00:23:31,036 --> 00:23:33,356 Speaker 1: And so why did you need the Fun Prevention Group 488 00:23:33,396 --> 00:23:35,396 Speaker 1: if you already were doing these things that were really 489 00:23:35,396 --> 00:23:36,596 Speaker 1: pleasurable and fun. 490 00:23:36,676 --> 00:23:39,556 Speaker 3: Jen, I think we wanted to be organized about it 491 00:23:39,596 --> 00:23:43,236 Speaker 3: and make sure that each month we. 492 00:23:43,156 --> 00:23:45,116 Speaker 1: Could have a fun activity to do together. 493 00:23:45,156 --> 00:23:47,156 Speaker 3: So it was really putting a little bit more structure 494 00:23:47,316 --> 00:23:51,676 Speaker 3: around this connection of women and creating opportunities to do 495 00:23:51,716 --> 00:23:52,556 Speaker 3: fun things together. 496 00:23:52,796 --> 00:23:55,036 Speaker 1: And you might think that that structure makes it, you know, 497 00:23:55,276 --> 00:23:58,076 Speaker 1: more rigid, maybe less fun, but talk about why the 498 00:23:58,116 --> 00:24:01,156 Speaker 1: structure was really essential for everyone to get together. I 499 00:24:01,196 --> 00:24:02,036 Speaker 1: just think the structure. 500 00:24:02,116 --> 00:24:06,316 Speaker 4: The structure was essential because so easy for the month 501 00:24:06,396 --> 00:24:10,996 Speaker 4: to get away from you, and we have really carved 502 00:24:11,036 --> 00:24:13,556 Speaker 4: out the time and and like you said, even if 503 00:24:13,556 --> 00:24:16,436 Speaker 4: it's something you're not that interested in doing, it's like 504 00:24:16,516 --> 00:24:18,356 Speaker 4: I am not missing out. All my friends are going 505 00:24:18,396 --> 00:24:21,356 Speaker 4: to be together, and I'll move heaven and Earth in 506 00:24:21,436 --> 00:24:24,396 Speaker 4: my schedule to make sure that I can be there. 507 00:24:24,756 --> 00:24:29,436 Speaker 4: And I have never regretted doing that in order to 508 00:24:29,436 --> 00:24:31,836 Speaker 4: be at one of them or to be with these guys. 509 00:24:31,876 --> 00:24:33,716 Speaker 4: So it's definitely worth it. 510 00:24:33,796 --> 00:24:35,876 Speaker 3: And I think that what we try to do is 511 00:24:36,316 --> 00:24:39,476 Speaker 3: schedule it almost a month or two out so that 512 00:24:39,516 --> 00:24:43,316 Speaker 3: people can save the date. I think what becomes hard 513 00:24:43,356 --> 00:24:46,316 Speaker 3: just in life generally, is everybody has a lot of commitments. 514 00:24:46,676 --> 00:24:51,716 Speaker 3: We all have families and friends, and so by having 515 00:24:51,716 --> 00:24:54,556 Speaker 3: it be structured with save the dates, people market and 516 00:24:54,596 --> 00:24:58,196 Speaker 3: it's that day is our Funterrevention day, and more people 517 00:24:58,236 --> 00:24:58,956 Speaker 3: can go that way. 518 00:24:59,156 --> 00:25:01,836 Speaker 1: It also seems like it's a pretty forgiving process, right, 519 00:25:01,996 --> 00:25:04,116 Speaker 1: Like I imagine if you had somebody in the Fundervention 520 00:25:04,236 --> 00:25:06,316 Speaker 1: group that just for whatever reason couldn't come for a bunch, 521 00:25:06,356 --> 00:25:08,236 Speaker 1: they don't get like kicked out of the funder vention 522 00:25:08,436 --> 00:25:11,596 Speaker 1: in that ever, So I want to talk about some 523 00:25:11,596 --> 00:25:13,076 Speaker 1: of the benefits that you all got out of this 524 00:25:13,116 --> 00:25:16,596 Speaker 1: funtervention process. I'm curious if there was some extra social 525 00:25:16,636 --> 00:25:19,356 Speaker 1: benefit that you got out of doing the funterventions together. 526 00:25:19,516 --> 00:25:21,756 Speaker 2: There's a beauty when you're in small groups. Sometimes like 527 00:25:21,756 --> 00:25:24,036 Speaker 2: we're this big group and that big group is awesome, 528 00:25:24,436 --> 00:25:27,156 Speaker 2: but there's certain times we have three tables and you're 529 00:25:27,156 --> 00:25:29,276 Speaker 2: maybe only at a table with four and it might 530 00:25:29,316 --> 00:25:31,916 Speaker 2: not be the person that you're usually with. It just 531 00:25:32,036 --> 00:25:34,636 Speaker 2: gives you a chance to connect a little bit more, 532 00:25:34,716 --> 00:25:38,796 Speaker 2: a little bit deeper with somebody in the group. 533 00:25:39,116 --> 00:25:41,316 Speaker 1: And so talk about the playful part of the Funder 534 00:25:41,396 --> 00:25:44,156 Speaker 1: ventions because so many of the activities you took part in, 535 00:25:44,196 --> 00:25:47,836 Speaker 1: whether it's the scavenger hunt or you know, kind of 536 00:25:48,076 --> 00:25:50,396 Speaker 1: like the flower arranging, which is you know, maybe you're 537 00:25:50,396 --> 00:25:52,156 Speaker 1: supposed to be serious, but it sounds like you all 538 00:25:52,196 --> 00:25:54,716 Speaker 1: had fun like that. Playfulness seems to be a big 539 00:25:54,756 --> 00:25:57,356 Speaker 1: part of it. Was that playfulness something that you were 540 00:25:57,356 --> 00:25:59,356 Speaker 1: getting a lot of in your regular life or is 541 00:25:59,396 --> 00:26:01,436 Speaker 1: it something that you really got out of the fundrevention. 542 00:26:01,596 --> 00:26:04,596 Speaker 4: Maybe, Lisa, I would say the playfulness I got out 543 00:26:04,596 --> 00:26:08,196 Speaker 4: of the Funder vention because you don't in your regular life, 544 00:26:08,396 --> 00:26:10,036 Speaker 4: you know, you just try. I'd always be doing the 545 00:26:10,116 --> 00:26:13,756 Speaker 4: right thing, making the right decisions. But when we were 546 00:26:13,756 --> 00:26:17,716 Speaker 4: doing like say the flower arranging, we were like stealing 547 00:26:17,756 --> 00:26:21,116 Speaker 4: flowers out of other people's arrangements because theirs looked better 548 00:26:21,196 --> 00:26:23,596 Speaker 4: and I didn't have as many, and laughing about it. 549 00:26:23,796 --> 00:26:26,356 Speaker 4: So I definitely think it's it's helped me be more 550 00:26:26,476 --> 00:26:28,196 Speaker 4: silly and stuff. 551 00:26:28,276 --> 00:26:30,276 Speaker 1: Yeah, Natalie, well, we did one. 552 00:26:30,196 --> 00:26:32,876 Speaker 2: Of the most fun I thought one of the most 553 00:26:32,876 --> 00:26:37,916 Speaker 2: fun ones was a cooking class with a chef in Boston. 554 00:26:38,796 --> 00:26:40,996 Speaker 2: It was like we made food together, but there were 555 00:26:41,036 --> 00:26:44,036 Speaker 2: other people at the event. It was not a private event, 556 00:26:44,676 --> 00:26:48,196 Speaker 2: and I'm sure for those other people they were like, Wow, 557 00:26:48,316 --> 00:26:51,116 Speaker 2: these people like because we are fun and we're laughing 558 00:26:51,196 --> 00:26:53,676 Speaker 2: and we're goofing with each other and we're silly and 559 00:26:53,676 --> 00:26:55,756 Speaker 2: we're goofing with the chef, and I just kind of 560 00:26:55,796 --> 00:26:57,956 Speaker 2: you feel for the other people in the group. 561 00:26:58,556 --> 00:27:04,156 Speaker 1: But there is definitely like a silliness to our group. 562 00:27:04,756 --> 00:27:07,516 Speaker 2: I think in like that fun audit of the podcast, 563 00:27:07,596 --> 00:27:09,796 Speaker 2: when you think about it and you really think about 564 00:27:09,836 --> 00:27:15,476 Speaker 2: in your adult life in Franklin, the most fun you've 565 00:27:15,516 --> 00:27:18,956 Speaker 2: had and the things that you've had fun at, it's 566 00:27:19,036 --> 00:27:23,036 Speaker 2: usually these people in this group are present, maybe with 567 00:27:23,116 --> 00:27:27,156 Speaker 2: their husbands as well, maybe just them, but they're a 568 00:27:27,236 --> 00:27:28,756 Speaker 2: big component in our fun. 569 00:27:29,076 --> 00:27:32,916 Speaker 3: I also think there's a playfulness in the activity activity, 570 00:27:32,996 --> 00:27:36,396 Speaker 3: even if it's not really a playful activity. So, as 571 00:27:36,436 --> 00:27:39,636 Speaker 3: Lisa was saying with the flower ranging, I remember my 572 00:27:39,716 --> 00:27:43,996 Speaker 3: friend Carrie's flowers. She was moving them around so much 573 00:27:44,036 --> 00:27:46,956 Speaker 3: that they started to like literally disintegrate, and we were 574 00:27:47,116 --> 00:27:50,276 Speaker 3: making fun of her because these beautiful flowers are falling apart, 575 00:27:50,356 --> 00:27:53,196 Speaker 3: and hers is wilting and ours there's all looking great. 576 00:27:53,316 --> 00:27:57,196 Speaker 3: And so you can just make any activity really playful 577 00:27:57,276 --> 00:27:58,756 Speaker 3: and I think that that's what we found with a 578 00:27:58,796 --> 00:28:00,756 Speaker 3: lot of the things that we do, we just start 579 00:28:00,836 --> 00:28:04,316 Speaker 3: laughing about whether it's in the salt cave or bike 580 00:28:04,396 --> 00:28:07,676 Speaker 3: riding or cross country skiing, when we're all falling down. 581 00:28:08,196 --> 00:28:10,676 Speaker 1: You can make it fun. And I'm curious if that 582 00:28:10,716 --> 00:28:13,476 Speaker 1: fund really helps you get through the other more difficult times. 583 00:28:13,476 --> 00:28:15,156 Speaker 1: You know, you talked about how this group has been 584 00:28:15,196 --> 00:28:18,676 Speaker 1: around through all kinds of big life changes and stresses. 585 00:28:19,076 --> 00:28:21,156 Speaker 1: Any good examples of how the fun got you through 586 00:28:21,196 --> 00:28:21,876 Speaker 1: a tough time. 587 00:28:22,676 --> 00:28:27,076 Speaker 3: I think there's a bonding that by participating in so 588 00:28:27,116 --> 00:28:30,076 Speaker 3: many different types of activities and really putting yourself out 589 00:28:30,076 --> 00:28:32,476 Speaker 3: there with a group of people. I think we put 590 00:28:32,516 --> 00:28:35,116 Speaker 3: ourselves out there even when we have hard times, and 591 00:28:35,156 --> 00:28:37,356 Speaker 3: we rally around each other. And there have been a 592 00:28:37,356 --> 00:28:42,236 Speaker 3: lot of instances where people have needed support and we 593 00:28:42,436 --> 00:28:45,636 Speaker 3: also are the first to kind of come together and 594 00:28:45,636 --> 00:28:48,036 Speaker 3: say what can we do for that person. One of 595 00:28:48,076 --> 00:28:51,876 Speaker 3: our friends had, you know, a foot surgery, and we 596 00:28:51,876 --> 00:28:54,436 Speaker 3: were like, what can we do to help her? Even 597 00:28:54,436 --> 00:28:56,676 Speaker 3: if it's just sitting and watching TV with her or 598 00:28:56,716 --> 00:29:00,316 Speaker 3: bringing her food. We've all had family things that have happened, 599 00:29:00,436 --> 00:29:03,436 Speaker 3: and no one's trying to pretend their life is something 600 00:29:03,436 --> 00:29:05,756 Speaker 3: that it's not. We're very honest about what's going on 601 00:29:05,836 --> 00:29:07,836 Speaker 3: and asking for advice and getting support. 602 00:29:07,996 --> 00:29:09,996 Speaker 2: And I think even like one of the people in 603 00:29:10,036 --> 00:29:12,756 Speaker 2: our group one time we were walking and running and 604 00:29:12,796 --> 00:29:14,756 Speaker 2: she was like, I feel this group is the happiest 605 00:29:14,796 --> 00:29:17,156 Speaker 2: group of people I know in this town, and we're 606 00:29:17,236 --> 00:29:19,316 Speaker 2: very real. And some people would say, when you're running, 607 00:29:19,356 --> 00:29:21,516 Speaker 2: you can't really lie. I don't know, it's like a saying, 608 00:29:21,556 --> 00:29:24,756 Speaker 2: but it's hard to not tell the truth when you're running. 609 00:29:25,036 --> 00:29:28,716 Speaker 2: Kind of the truth comes out, but it's no like 610 00:29:28,836 --> 00:29:31,636 Speaker 2: keeping up with the Jones'. No, like people say, oh 611 00:29:31,716 --> 00:29:34,916 Speaker 2: my son did this, my daughter did that, my husband 612 00:29:34,956 --> 00:29:38,116 Speaker 2: did that. Like no one's pretending that their life is 613 00:29:38,236 --> 00:29:41,476 Speaker 2: anything other than what it really is. And I think we, 614 00:29:41,916 --> 00:29:45,236 Speaker 2: like Jen just said, we come together, Like Jen is 615 00:29:45,436 --> 00:29:48,236 Speaker 2: more like the Sunshine Committee person, and I feel like 616 00:29:48,356 --> 00:29:51,916 Speaker 2: I'm more the doom and Gloom committee. Like when someone's like, 617 00:29:51,996 --> 00:29:54,796 Speaker 2: we had a friend whose mom died and I just 618 00:29:54,876 --> 00:29:59,036 Speaker 2: remember being at the service and looking at the pew 619 00:29:59,356 --> 00:30:03,756 Speaker 2: and it was like ten running people. It was just 620 00:30:03,796 --> 00:30:09,116 Speaker 2: a really solid supporting show of love and we're there 621 00:30:09,236 --> 00:30:09,916 Speaker 2: for everybody. 622 00:30:10,116 --> 00:30:11,756 Speaker 1: But I think that's a beautiful part, right, is that 623 00:30:11,796 --> 00:30:15,236 Speaker 1: if you're engaging in social connection during the FUNTERVENTIONCE, that's 624 00:30:15,276 --> 00:30:17,956 Speaker 1: fun and you're getting social connection, but that connection is 625 00:30:17,996 --> 00:30:19,996 Speaker 1: real connection, right. Those are the people that are going 626 00:30:20,036 --> 00:30:22,396 Speaker 1: to show up when you're in a moment of grief 627 00:30:22,476 --> 00:30:24,716 Speaker 1: or when you're struggling and you need someone to help you, 628 00:30:24,756 --> 00:30:26,916 Speaker 1: when you break your foot and so on. So it's 629 00:30:26,916 --> 00:30:28,876 Speaker 1: not just kind of like, oh connection, you know, this 630 00:30:28,956 --> 00:30:31,956 Speaker 1: fleeting thing you know while you're flower arranging, it becomes 631 00:30:31,956 --> 00:30:34,836 Speaker 1: the kind of thing that forms these really deep, real 632 00:30:34,876 --> 00:30:35,876 Speaker 1: friendships over time. 633 00:30:36,036 --> 00:30:38,716 Speaker 4: Oh, people wait to come to the group and they'll 634 00:30:38,756 --> 00:30:40,836 Speaker 4: have an issue if it's one of the keys, you know, 635 00:30:40,876 --> 00:30:43,756 Speaker 4: because we're our kids are sort of we hit every age, 636 00:30:43,796 --> 00:30:47,196 Speaker 4: every grade, and you know, you'll come and you'll be like, okay, 637 00:30:47,396 --> 00:30:49,516 Speaker 4: so this is what's going on. And then people with 638 00:30:49,556 --> 00:30:51,916 Speaker 4: older kids will be like, the same thing happened, this 639 00:30:51,956 --> 00:30:55,876 Speaker 4: is what we did. This is all broad is closer, 640 00:30:56,116 --> 00:30:58,556 Speaker 4: and the connectivity is like a couple of us have 641 00:30:58,676 --> 00:31:01,516 Speaker 4: run a marathon, and when you're training for a marathon, 642 00:31:01,996 --> 00:31:05,836 Speaker 4: we'll wait at different points and I'll run five with you, 643 00:31:06,076 --> 00:31:08,516 Speaker 4: I'll run the next eight with you, and we like 644 00:31:08,596 --> 00:31:12,036 Speaker 4: tap o and we each do. Like when that person 645 00:31:12,076 --> 00:31:14,476 Speaker 4: has to do a thirteen mile run, they don't do 646 00:31:14,756 --> 00:31:17,756 Speaker 4: a mile of it alone. I can't do a marathon, 647 00:31:17,796 --> 00:31:20,236 Speaker 4: but I can do five or six miles. So we 648 00:31:20,316 --> 00:31:22,996 Speaker 4: all do that, and that just is our friendship, I think, 649 00:31:23,036 --> 00:31:26,236 Speaker 4: in our group. So when we decided to have fun together, 650 00:31:26,276 --> 00:31:28,036 Speaker 4: everybody sort of I'm. 651 00:31:27,796 --> 00:31:28,436 Speaker 1: In, I'm in. 652 00:31:28,996 --> 00:31:32,156 Speaker 3: I wanted to add to what Natalie said at the 653 00:31:32,196 --> 00:31:34,996 Speaker 3: funeral that she was referring to that was such a 654 00:31:35,036 --> 00:31:40,076 Speaker 3: powerful moment when I just felt when I looked across 655 00:31:40,116 --> 00:31:42,356 Speaker 3: and saw a whole pew of all of us there 656 00:31:42,516 --> 00:31:44,756 Speaker 3: for our friend when our mom passed. It was just 657 00:31:44,796 --> 00:31:47,996 Speaker 3: a moment where like it just hits you of how 658 00:31:48,036 --> 00:31:50,516 Speaker 3: important that friendship is, you know. And I think that 659 00:31:50,596 --> 00:31:52,516 Speaker 3: meant a lot to her to look out and see 660 00:31:52,556 --> 00:31:54,476 Speaker 3: all of us across a pew like that. 661 00:31:55,116 --> 00:31:57,316 Speaker 1: And so it has all these benefits, but it can 662 00:31:57,356 --> 00:32:00,516 Speaker 1: be hard to do. Mostly, I think the biggest constry 663 00:32:00,596 --> 00:32:03,636 Speaker 1: on other people engaging in fun is just time, you know. 664 00:32:03,716 --> 00:32:06,596 Speaker 1: So for listeners who think that this sounds amazing, but 665 00:32:06,716 --> 00:32:08,796 Speaker 1: there's no way they could fit this into their schedule, 666 00:32:08,836 --> 00:32:10,916 Speaker 1: and there's way their friends could fit this into their schedule. 667 00:32:11,116 --> 00:32:13,116 Speaker 1: What advice do you have about how to get it started? 668 00:32:13,956 --> 00:32:15,436 Speaker 1: I would just say start small. 669 00:32:16,036 --> 00:32:18,476 Speaker 3: It doesn't have to be every month, it doesn't have 670 00:32:18,556 --> 00:32:21,036 Speaker 3: to be a group of thirteen people. If you have 671 00:32:21,076 --> 00:32:24,076 Speaker 3: a close group of four friends and you make a 672 00:32:24,116 --> 00:32:28,436 Speaker 3: point of even four times a year, each person schedules something, 673 00:32:28,956 --> 00:32:31,516 Speaker 3: and it's something that doesn't have to even be expensive. 674 00:32:31,556 --> 00:32:33,676 Speaker 3: A lot of the things that we did were actually 675 00:32:33,756 --> 00:32:36,996 Speaker 3: no cost at all and somewhat pretty nominal cost and 676 00:32:37,116 --> 00:32:40,516 Speaker 3: just getting out there and finding something new and different 677 00:32:40,516 --> 00:32:42,516 Speaker 3: that you want to explore or do together. 678 00:32:42,876 --> 00:32:44,756 Speaker 1: So another thing that comes up is that people start 679 00:32:44,756 --> 00:32:48,796 Speaker 1: to worry about whether their preferences are like weird in 680 00:32:48,836 --> 00:32:50,996 Speaker 1: some way. You know, I have my own fun factors, 681 00:32:50,996 --> 00:32:53,516 Speaker 1: but they might not be your fun factors, right, And 682 00:32:53,556 --> 00:32:55,556 Speaker 1: so how do you navigate that sort of thing? Do 683 00:32:55,596 --> 00:32:58,156 Speaker 1: you vet the ideas ahead of time or how do 684 00:32:58,196 --> 00:32:58,716 Speaker 1: you figure that out? 685 00:32:58,796 --> 00:33:02,356 Speaker 3: Jen, We really don't, And I do think you have 686 00:33:02,436 --> 00:33:05,276 Speaker 3: to be up for this idea of a fun prevention 687 00:33:05,796 --> 00:33:08,756 Speaker 3: is something that maybe you don't think you're interested in, 688 00:33:08,796 --> 00:33:10,836 Speaker 3: but you get there and it actually is more fun 689 00:33:10,836 --> 00:33:12,516 Speaker 3: than you thought it was going to be. And so 690 00:33:12,636 --> 00:33:15,476 Speaker 3: being open to that opportunity even if it's not something 691 00:33:15,516 --> 00:33:18,596 Speaker 3: that would have necessarily been on your fun list, it 692 00:33:18,676 --> 00:33:20,716 Speaker 3: might be on your fun list after the event. 693 00:33:21,276 --> 00:33:23,036 Speaker 1: Yeah. I think that's part of the message of all 694 00:33:23,196 --> 00:33:25,756 Speaker 1: the things you've been saying, is that you know, nine 695 00:33:25,756 --> 00:33:27,916 Speaker 1: times out of ten, maybe you know ninety nine times 696 00:33:27,956 --> 00:33:29,756 Speaker 1: out of one hundred, it's going to be more fun 697 00:33:29,796 --> 00:33:31,396 Speaker 1: than you expect. Absolutely. 698 00:33:31,756 --> 00:33:35,156 Speaker 3: There was one exception where there was an email about 699 00:33:35,356 --> 00:33:37,276 Speaker 3: what people do goat yoga. 700 00:33:36,876 --> 00:33:38,956 Speaker 2: And I do think a lot it was boat yoga 701 00:33:39,076 --> 00:33:41,276 Speaker 2: or a boat ride, and we were like, boat ride. 702 00:33:42,036 --> 00:33:44,436 Speaker 1: Yeah. I'm also curious how the other people in your 703 00:33:44,436 --> 00:33:46,396 Speaker 1: life react to this, right, and I imagine many of 704 00:33:46,436 --> 00:33:48,396 Speaker 1: you have like husbands and kids, and you're all off 705 00:33:48,436 --> 00:33:50,796 Speaker 1: doing these fun things. It sounds like they might not 706 00:33:50,836 --> 00:33:53,796 Speaker 1: be invited to, Like have they ever had any reaction 707 00:33:53,876 --> 00:33:55,556 Speaker 1: to this, or do they get inspired to do their 708 00:33:55,596 --> 00:33:56,356 Speaker 1: own fund prevention. 709 00:33:56,876 --> 00:34:00,836 Speaker 3: We have had friends that have when we post a picture, 710 00:34:00,956 --> 00:34:03,356 Speaker 3: have commented, I want to do fun preventions, and we 711 00:34:03,436 --> 00:34:05,436 Speaker 3: do know that they've started to set them up with 712 00:34:05,476 --> 00:34:08,636 Speaker 3: some of their friends. Sometimes people ask if they can 713 00:34:08,716 --> 00:34:11,396 Speaker 3: join us, but we've really left it with the running group. 714 00:34:11,676 --> 00:34:13,156 Speaker 1: Our kids definitely love it. 715 00:34:13,196 --> 00:34:16,076 Speaker 4: My girls and their friends all follow us on social 716 00:34:16,116 --> 00:34:18,796 Speaker 4: media and they cannot wait for the pictures to come 717 00:34:18,796 --> 00:34:22,276 Speaker 4: out of the fun prevention that we just did. And sometimes, 718 00:34:22,356 --> 00:34:24,716 Speaker 4: I mean they're in their twenties, they'll go and do 719 00:34:24,796 --> 00:34:28,396 Speaker 4: the things that we did, and so we're like iconstantly. 720 00:34:29,116 --> 00:34:31,236 Speaker 1: So it seems like your fund inventions are inspiring them 721 00:34:31,276 --> 00:34:32,116 Speaker 1: that fun stuff. 722 00:34:32,196 --> 00:34:34,636 Speaker 4: Yeah, to go to the same places and do the 723 00:34:34,676 --> 00:34:35,276 Speaker 4: same things. 724 00:34:35,316 --> 00:34:37,756 Speaker 1: So yeah, I think the reaction I. 725 00:34:37,756 --> 00:34:40,116 Speaker 2: Get like if I'm telling someone like a work person 726 00:34:40,396 --> 00:34:44,716 Speaker 2: or and I start to talk about like our group 727 00:34:44,996 --> 00:34:48,676 Speaker 2: and the number and the closeness and the connection, even 728 00:34:48,716 --> 00:34:51,156 Speaker 2: before I get to like the fun prevention part of it, 729 00:34:51,236 --> 00:34:53,796 Speaker 2: just who we all are, their first reaction is like 730 00:34:53,836 --> 00:34:56,516 Speaker 2: I don't have that, Like, oh, that sounds so nice, 731 00:34:56,756 --> 00:34:59,156 Speaker 2: And we just happen to have a lot of people. 732 00:34:59,156 --> 00:35:01,196 Speaker 2: But you could do it with any number of people. 733 00:35:01,316 --> 00:35:03,076 Speaker 3: And I don't even think you have to do it 734 00:35:03,116 --> 00:35:05,996 Speaker 3: with just friends when you think about it. If you 735 00:35:06,076 --> 00:35:09,116 Speaker 3: have extended family members, you could do it with cousins, 736 00:35:09,356 --> 00:35:14,676 Speaker 3: you could do it even with family co workers, yes, couples. 737 00:35:14,996 --> 00:35:16,396 Speaker 1: It sounds like the key is just that you have 738 00:35:16,436 --> 00:35:18,836 Speaker 1: to put in a little bit of work, right. It 739 00:35:18,876 --> 00:35:20,636 Speaker 1: takes a little bit of structure. 740 00:35:20,756 --> 00:35:24,756 Speaker 4: And then the fun part is Jen has it all chronicled. 741 00:35:25,076 --> 00:35:26,836 Speaker 4: Sometimes we'll just go out and we'll sit and we'll 742 00:35:26,836 --> 00:35:29,436 Speaker 4: go back through a lot like we did today, and 743 00:35:29,476 --> 00:35:30,996 Speaker 4: we'll laugh again about them. 744 00:35:31,396 --> 00:35:34,716 Speaker 1: So a little bit of structure it goes a long 745 00:35:34,756 --> 00:35:37,476 Speaker 1: way and they're really fun, fun memories. So do you 746 00:35:37,476 --> 00:35:39,476 Speaker 1: want to hear how we ended up with the three 747 00:35:39,516 --> 00:35:39,916 Speaker 1: of us? 748 00:35:40,036 --> 00:35:44,116 Speaker 2: We had to like basically, everybody wanted to do this, 749 00:35:44,276 --> 00:35:44,956 Speaker 2: like the whole group. 750 00:35:44,956 --> 00:35:48,156 Speaker 1: You would have had thirteen of us if possible. 751 00:35:48,276 --> 00:35:52,236 Speaker 2: Everybody wanted to everybody like so we shout out, that's 752 00:35:52,276 --> 00:35:54,116 Speaker 2: what makes us us like all of us. 753 00:35:54,276 --> 00:35:56,836 Speaker 1: We got to give them a shot. Especially yeah, oh yeah, 754 00:35:56,876 --> 00:36:00,316 Speaker 1: they all want to come all day to day. Good 755 00:36:00,396 --> 00:36:03,916 Speaker 1: luck you guys, extra special thanks to the entire Fun 756 00:36:03,956 --> 00:36:08,396 Speaker 1: Invention group, not just Lisa, Jen and Natalie, but Denise, Carrey, Ellen, Jamie, 757 00:36:08,436 --> 00:36:13,316 Speaker 1: Peggy Morey, Jill Kim, Teresa Karen and Paula. Hey. All right, 758 00:36:13,556 --> 00:36:15,596 Speaker 1: more heads up if we can get it to work again? 759 00:36:15,676 --> 00:36:15,956 Speaker 4: Sure? 760 00:36:21,036 --> 00:36:26,036 Speaker 2: Oh wow, Hannah Montana, Oh uh, Wiley Cyrus. 761 00:36:26,676 --> 00:36:27,756 Speaker 1: Oh he's wrestler. 762 00:36:29,116 --> 00:36:31,556 Speaker 2: Yeah. 763 00:36:31,596 --> 00:36:34,236 Speaker 1: The Runners of Franklin, Massachusetts are such a great group 764 00:36:34,276 --> 00:36:36,676 Speaker 1: of friends and they've really taken the science of well 765 00:36:36,716 --> 00:36:39,036 Speaker 1: being and the lessons of the Happiness Lab to heart. 766 00:36:39,396 --> 00:36:41,996 Speaker 1: And if you missed the two episodes about My own Funtervention, 767 00:36:42,356 --> 00:36:45,396 Speaker 1: not to worry because we'll be returning these two episodes 768 00:36:45,436 --> 00:36:47,076 Speaker 1: to the top of our feed next week