1 00:00:04,240 --> 00:00:06,440 Speaker 1: Hey, and welcome to the short Stuff. I should say, 2 00:00:06,480 --> 00:00:09,680 Speaker 1: hey and welcome to the short Stuff. I'm Josh, and 3 00:00:09,720 --> 00:00:13,360 Speaker 1: there's Chuck. And Jerry's here too, skulking around like a 4 00:00:13,400 --> 00:00:16,360 Speaker 1: real ghoul who just wants to dig up a grave 5 00:00:16,440 --> 00:00:19,280 Speaker 1: and eat the corpse inside. That's what Jerry does around 6 00:00:19,320 --> 00:00:22,119 Speaker 1: this time of year. And this is short stuff. So 7 00:00:22,200 --> 00:00:24,520 Speaker 1: let's get going because it's basically Halloween. 8 00:00:25,000 --> 00:00:27,040 Speaker 2: That's right, the day before Halloween. We're going to talk 9 00:00:27,040 --> 00:00:31,280 Speaker 2: about two scary stories. Big thanks to Medium, People Magazine, 10 00:00:31,400 --> 00:00:34,040 Speaker 2: A Cult of Weird, and The Cut and other places 11 00:00:34,640 --> 00:00:37,559 Speaker 2: for these two scary stories. The first one about the 12 00:00:37,600 --> 00:00:42,560 Speaker 2: Breeziest family of Auburn, Pennsylvania, who moved into a home 13 00:00:43,000 --> 00:00:46,440 Speaker 2: for their family of six. They were like, let me, 14 00:00:46,800 --> 00:00:50,319 Speaker 2: let's renovate a little bit. Let's take down this wall in. 15 00:00:50,280 --> 00:00:52,879 Speaker 3: The living room, and oh my god, what is that? 16 00:00:55,680 --> 00:00:58,440 Speaker 2: Basically because what they found within the walls of the 17 00:00:58,440 --> 00:01:03,760 Speaker 2: home were dead animal carcasses, bones and skeletons. 18 00:01:04,480 --> 00:01:09,000 Speaker 1: Yes, and very quizzically. They were wrapped in newspaper that 19 00:01:09,080 --> 00:01:13,520 Speaker 1: dated from the nineteen thirties and forties, and apparently every 20 00:01:13,640 --> 00:01:16,440 Speaker 1: wall that they opened up to put insulation in they 21 00:01:16,480 --> 00:01:20,080 Speaker 1: found it packed with not only like dead animals, but 22 00:01:20,200 --> 00:01:26,200 Speaker 1: also some spices artifacts and by god, I searched high 23 00:01:26,200 --> 00:01:28,520 Speaker 1: and low for an example of what the artifacts were, 24 00:01:28,520 --> 00:01:32,400 Speaker 1: but everybody just followed the example of whoever first wrote artifacts, 25 00:01:32,400 --> 00:01:34,240 Speaker 1: and that's all you can get. So I have no 26 00:01:34,280 --> 00:01:35,520 Speaker 1: idea what the artifacts are. 27 00:01:35,840 --> 00:01:37,319 Speaker 3: Maybe that was the newspapers. 28 00:01:38,160 --> 00:01:41,600 Speaker 1: I guess this qualify as artifacts. Yeah, yeah, all right, 29 00:01:41,640 --> 00:01:44,759 Speaker 1: we'll just say that. So spices, newspapers, and dead animals. 30 00:01:45,120 --> 00:01:47,760 Speaker 1: And they're like, I don't know what's going on here, 31 00:01:48,160 --> 00:01:51,240 Speaker 1: So let's ask some locals what they think is happening. 32 00:01:51,680 --> 00:01:54,400 Speaker 1: And it turns out that these people bought their house 33 00:01:54,800 --> 00:01:58,640 Speaker 1: smack dab in the middle of Pennsylvania Dutch Country, and 34 00:01:58,720 --> 00:02:01,480 Speaker 1: it turns out what had happened they discovered that their 35 00:02:01,520 --> 00:02:07,440 Speaker 1: house was being protected via a kind of Dutch magic, 36 00:02:07,520 --> 00:02:09,480 Speaker 1: Pennsylvania Dutch magic called pow wow. 37 00:02:10,639 --> 00:02:11,200 Speaker 3: That's right. 38 00:02:11,520 --> 00:02:14,960 Speaker 2: It has its roots in Pennsylvania there, and it's sort 39 00:02:14,960 --> 00:02:19,280 Speaker 2: of like, I mean, Christianity is part of it because 40 00:02:19,320 --> 00:02:21,640 Speaker 2: they do use the Christian or I don't know if 41 00:02:21,639 --> 00:02:23,880 Speaker 2: they're still around or maybe did use the Christian Bible. 42 00:02:23,960 --> 00:02:26,400 Speaker 2: I think it is still around, Okay, but there's definitely 43 00:02:26,400 --> 00:02:31,040 Speaker 2: folk magic healing remedies, stuff like that powwow refers to 44 00:02:32,040 --> 00:02:35,680 Speaker 2: or it actually came from this German book called The 45 00:02:35,720 --> 00:02:40,519 Speaker 2: Long Lost Friends by John George Homan, published in eighteen twenty, 46 00:02:41,160 --> 00:02:44,480 Speaker 2: and they believe that it wasn't called pow Wow at first, 47 00:02:44,520 --> 00:02:48,000 Speaker 2: but it was renamed that later after the Algonquin word 48 00:02:48,760 --> 00:02:51,920 Speaker 2: for you know, pow wow gathering of medicine men, and. 49 00:02:51,960 --> 00:02:52,800 Speaker 3: That was it. 50 00:02:52,800 --> 00:02:55,600 Speaker 2: It was this book basically that also has kind of 51 00:02:55,600 --> 00:02:59,239 Speaker 2: a creepy backstory though, right, well, yeah. 52 00:02:58,960 --> 00:03:00,880 Speaker 1: So just a little more about the book. It's a 53 00:03:00,880 --> 00:03:04,040 Speaker 1: bunch of folk remedies and spells and recipes and hey, 54 00:03:04,200 --> 00:03:06,840 Speaker 1: use this, you know, cat's paw for you know, to 55 00:03:06,880 --> 00:03:10,079 Speaker 1: ward off this thing. And it very importantly to me. 56 00:03:11,880 --> 00:03:15,079 Speaker 1: Nothing in the book is for casting spells against somebody 57 00:03:15,400 --> 00:03:18,760 Speaker 1: or for hexting somebody. It's all protective or defensive to 58 00:03:18,840 --> 00:03:21,800 Speaker 1: like undo some somebody did on you. So it's basically 59 00:03:21,840 --> 00:03:26,000 Speaker 1: all positive and pow wow doctors who again are still 60 00:03:26,000 --> 00:03:28,760 Speaker 1: around today, they don't take a cent for what they're doing. 61 00:03:28,800 --> 00:03:31,160 Speaker 1: If you want to give them something as a token 62 00:03:31,200 --> 00:03:33,760 Speaker 1: of thanks, they'll accept it, but they do not charge 63 00:03:33,760 --> 00:03:36,520 Speaker 1: for their services or else it won't work. And to 64 00:03:36,600 --> 00:03:40,480 Speaker 1: the people that they're working with and themselves. They are 65 00:03:41,000 --> 00:03:45,280 Speaker 1: a conduit through from God to this person who needs healing, 66 00:03:45,720 --> 00:03:47,680 Speaker 1: and that's what they're serving as, which is where the 67 00:03:47,760 --> 00:03:49,119 Speaker 1: Christianity part comes in. 68 00:03:50,000 --> 00:03:50,480 Speaker 3: That's right. 69 00:03:50,920 --> 00:03:54,520 Speaker 2: And I mentioned the creepy backstory of that book here 70 00:03:54,640 --> 00:03:58,040 Speaker 2: is that because in nineteen twenty eight it was found 71 00:03:59,160 --> 00:04:02,640 Speaker 2: in the Possession of them guy, a murderer named John Blimeyer, 72 00:04:03,480 --> 00:04:05,880 Speaker 2: and there was a local witch in this story named 73 00:04:05,920 --> 00:04:09,760 Speaker 2: Nellie Knowle and what great name, Nellie. 74 00:04:09,560 --> 00:04:10,680 Speaker 1: Hole Yeah or a witch? 75 00:04:11,240 --> 00:04:12,240 Speaker 3: Yeah? Absolutely. 76 00:04:13,640 --> 00:04:16,400 Speaker 2: John Blimeyer was convinced that he was cursed by one 77 00:04:16,440 --> 00:04:19,840 Speaker 2: of his neighbors and so he went to break into 78 00:04:19,839 --> 00:04:22,160 Speaker 2: that neighbor's house to find this spell book and try 79 00:04:22,200 --> 00:04:25,320 Speaker 2: and reverse this curse. But when he broke in, his 80 00:04:25,360 --> 00:04:28,760 Speaker 2: neighbor was actually there, so they just killed him. They 81 00:04:28,880 --> 00:04:31,719 Speaker 2: mutilated him, and they thought maybe that will lift the curse. 82 00:04:31,839 --> 00:04:35,000 Speaker 2: So that has nothing to do with actually what's in 83 00:04:35,040 --> 00:04:37,680 Speaker 2: the book, because like you said, it's a positive book 84 00:04:37,680 --> 00:04:42,839 Speaker 2: of protection spells mainly, but it is Halloween, so I 85 00:04:42,839 --> 00:04:43,800 Speaker 2: thought it was worth mentioning. 86 00:04:44,240 --> 00:04:47,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, and also reverse the curse sounds like a cub's 87 00:04:47,120 --> 00:04:48,440 Speaker 1: T shirt from the nineties. 88 00:04:49,920 --> 00:04:52,520 Speaker 3: You know, yeah, yeah, totally or red sox maybe. 89 00:04:52,640 --> 00:04:56,480 Speaker 1: So yeah. It turns out that the house of Nelson Reemeyer, 90 00:04:56,560 --> 00:04:59,400 Speaker 1: the neighbor who was killed by John Blmeyer, it's still 91 00:04:59,560 --> 00:05:03,039 Speaker 1: around and his great grandson lives there. And the part 92 00:05:03,160 --> 00:05:08,760 Speaker 1: of the floor where Remeier was burned alive is still singed, 93 00:05:08,839 --> 00:05:10,920 Speaker 1: and the guy is cut it out and put plexiglass 94 00:05:10,920 --> 00:05:12,520 Speaker 1: over it and gives tours of the house. 95 00:05:13,279 --> 00:05:15,520 Speaker 2: That's right, and again, has nothing to do with this 96 00:05:15,680 --> 00:05:19,159 Speaker 2: home or the dead animals in the wall. They're just 97 00:05:19,200 --> 00:05:21,120 Speaker 2: dead animals in the wall. And by all appearances, it 98 00:05:21,160 --> 00:05:25,080 Speaker 2: was part of a powwow protection ritual. They don't know 99 00:05:25,120 --> 00:05:28,120 Speaker 2: what that house might have been trying to be protected from. 100 00:05:28,120 --> 00:05:29,080 Speaker 3: That's kind of creepy. 101 00:05:29,000 --> 00:05:32,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, but they took care of everything to the tune 102 00:05:32,200 --> 00:05:35,440 Speaker 2: of about twenty thousand dollars because insurance would not cover it. 103 00:05:35,520 --> 00:05:39,400 Speaker 1: Nope, they said this existed before your policy. So ts 104 00:05:39,400 --> 00:05:43,960 Speaker 1: for you the spookiest part of the story exactly. So 105 00:05:44,200 --> 00:05:45,800 Speaker 1: let's take a break and we'll come back and talk 106 00:05:45,800 --> 00:05:48,720 Speaker 1: about a second real life horror story. How about that. 107 00:05:49,240 --> 00:05:49,760 Speaker 3: Let's do it. 108 00:06:14,120 --> 00:06:25,479 Speaker 4: Stop you should know, stop, you should I should know? 109 00:06:26,200 --> 00:06:29,120 Speaker 1: Okay, Chuck, So for the second real life scary story. 110 00:06:29,160 --> 00:06:31,880 Speaker 1: We're going to talk about the saga of Derek and 111 00:06:31,960 --> 00:06:36,880 Speaker 1: Maria Brotus, who bought a dream home essentially in Westfield, 112 00:06:36,880 --> 00:06:41,240 Speaker 1: New Jersey in twenty fourteen. They paid over asking for it, 113 00:06:41,560 --> 00:06:45,280 Speaker 1: which is also very scary. They paid one point four 114 00:06:45,320 --> 00:06:49,120 Speaker 1: million for it. And this house was a fourth bathroom, 115 00:06:49,240 --> 00:06:53,160 Speaker 1: six bedroom Dutch colonial, which should be the opposite. It 116 00:06:53,200 --> 00:06:56,239 Speaker 1: was built in nineteen oh five, and they loved the house. 117 00:06:56,400 --> 00:06:58,800 Speaker 1: They thought it was amazing. What they didn't know is 118 00:06:58,839 --> 00:07:02,400 Speaker 1: that there was a stock watching the house who called 119 00:07:02,400 --> 00:07:04,400 Speaker 1: themselves appropriately the Watcher. 120 00:07:05,160 --> 00:07:05,640 Speaker 3: That's right. 121 00:07:06,120 --> 00:07:08,839 Speaker 2: This is, of course the basis of the Netflix show 122 00:07:09,080 --> 00:07:11,920 Speaker 2: The Watcher. And we should also say we're going to 123 00:07:11,960 --> 00:07:14,760 Speaker 2: cover this in about six or seven minutes. And this 124 00:07:14,880 --> 00:07:17,200 Speaker 2: is a very dense story, so there is a lot 125 00:07:17,360 --> 00:07:19,160 Speaker 2: more out there about the Watcher, and this is the 126 00:07:19,200 --> 00:07:25,440 Speaker 2: broadest of overviews about the broadest family like that. But 127 00:07:25,600 --> 00:07:28,560 Speaker 2: this house was originally built in nineteen oh five. About 128 00:07:28,600 --> 00:07:32,280 Speaker 2: a month before closing, the Woods family, who was selling it, 129 00:07:32,560 --> 00:07:36,200 Speaker 2: got a letter from someone that called themselves the Watcher. 130 00:07:36,360 --> 00:07:39,679 Speaker 2: Sure was hand typed, and they claimed to be watching 131 00:07:39,760 --> 00:07:42,400 Speaker 2: the house in one of a long line of people 132 00:07:42,400 --> 00:07:44,920 Speaker 2: in their family that had been watching the house since 133 00:07:45,000 --> 00:07:45,760 Speaker 2: nineteen oh five. 134 00:07:46,040 --> 00:07:49,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, and one little note about the letters. The letters 135 00:07:49,400 --> 00:07:54,040 Speaker 1: were tight, but the envelopes were hand handwritten in a 136 00:07:54,080 --> 00:07:59,320 Speaker 1: block script. Yeah, yes, And that to me suggests strongly 137 00:07:59,400 --> 00:08:01,800 Speaker 1: that the watcher couldn't figure out how to type onto 138 00:08:02,240 --> 00:08:05,120 Speaker 1: an envelope, which I finally as. 139 00:08:05,600 --> 00:08:06,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's pretty funny. 140 00:08:07,640 --> 00:08:11,760 Speaker 2: So six fifty seven Boulevard is where this house is, 141 00:08:12,080 --> 00:08:15,880 Speaker 2: and the Woods family had lived there for twenty three years, 142 00:08:15,880 --> 00:08:18,400 Speaker 2: and they were like, this letter's kind of weird. It's 143 00:08:18,440 --> 00:08:21,280 Speaker 2: a little creepy, but we're selling it and let's just 144 00:08:21,400 --> 00:08:22,480 Speaker 2: not tell anybody. 145 00:08:22,200 --> 00:08:27,119 Speaker 1: That, right. So, yeah, apparently it was the first letter 146 00:08:27,200 --> 00:08:29,600 Speaker 1: they ever got. No one never seems to have intimated 147 00:08:29,640 --> 00:08:32,480 Speaker 1: that they got one prior to this, so they just 148 00:08:32,600 --> 00:08:34,720 Speaker 1: kind of threw it away and were just like whatever. 149 00:08:35,440 --> 00:08:38,720 Speaker 1: And then over the course of the next month, as 150 00:08:38,760 --> 00:08:42,760 Speaker 1: the Brotuses started moving their stuff in, three days after 151 00:08:42,880 --> 00:08:46,720 Speaker 1: closing in June, they received a letter, their first letter, 152 00:08:47,240 --> 00:08:51,240 Speaker 1: and it was essentially the watcher introducing themselves to this 153 00:08:51,280 --> 00:08:54,199 Speaker 1: new family who'd moved into this house at six five 154 00:08:54,280 --> 00:08:58,840 Speaker 1: seven Boulevard, that the watcher was the third generation to 155 00:08:58,920 --> 00:08:59,839 Speaker 1: watch this house. 156 00:09:00,400 --> 00:09:00,880 Speaker 3: Hey, Dave. 157 00:09:00,960 --> 00:09:03,679 Speaker 2: Maybe we could Dave producer Dave for the shorties. Make 158 00:09:03,720 --> 00:09:06,880 Speaker 2: we have some scary music when we read these letters. Yeah, great, 159 00:09:07,440 --> 00:09:09,719 Speaker 2: So cue the scary music. And here we go with 160 00:09:09,800 --> 00:09:12,920 Speaker 2: letter two. My grandfather watched the house in the nineteen 161 00:09:12,960 --> 00:09:16,480 Speaker 2: twenties and my father watched in the nineteen sixties. It 162 00:09:16,559 --> 00:09:21,679 Speaker 2: is have b and of course put the little parenthetical sic. 163 00:09:21,440 --> 00:09:24,240 Speaker 1: In there, which I'm not the dummy. They're the dummy. 164 00:09:25,360 --> 00:09:27,840 Speaker 2: It is have be put in charge of watching and 165 00:09:27,880 --> 00:09:30,720 Speaker 2: waiting for its second coming. You don't want to make 166 00:09:31,920 --> 00:09:36,040 Speaker 2: unhappy talking about the house. Do you need to fill 167 00:09:36,320 --> 00:09:40,640 Speaker 2: the house with the young blood I requested? I asked 168 00:09:40,679 --> 00:09:43,080 Speaker 2: the previous owners to bring me young blood. 169 00:09:43,960 --> 00:09:45,760 Speaker 1: So this is not the kind of letter you would 170 00:09:45,760 --> 00:09:48,040 Speaker 1: want to get when you're moving into your new house, 171 00:09:48,720 --> 00:09:51,440 Speaker 1: especially because you have kids. In this person, it's this 172 00:09:51,520 --> 00:09:55,679 Speaker 1: anonymous letter writer is mentioning young blood that you apparently 173 00:09:55,720 --> 00:09:59,920 Speaker 1: brought to them, and they the watcher said that the 174 00:10:00,040 --> 00:10:02,640 Speaker 1: Woods had told the house because the watcher asked them to, 175 00:10:02,760 --> 00:10:05,240 Speaker 1: and they were doing the watcher's bidding, something that the 176 00:10:05,280 --> 00:10:09,480 Speaker 1: watcher liked to apparently think about themselves, that they were 177 00:10:09,520 --> 00:10:12,800 Speaker 1: in control of everything that happened. With this house. And 178 00:10:12,920 --> 00:10:16,120 Speaker 1: two weeks later another letter arrived. It was addressed to 179 00:10:16,200 --> 00:10:19,040 Speaker 1: mister and missus Braddis. They left the O out this time, 180 00:10:20,040 --> 00:10:22,959 Speaker 1: and it got even more detailed about the kids. 181 00:10:23,440 --> 00:10:27,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, I was talking about their birth order, their nicknames, 182 00:10:27,800 --> 00:10:31,200 Speaker 2: and this is very creepy. But it asked who would 183 00:10:31,200 --> 00:10:33,440 Speaker 2: be in the street facing rooms and said it will 184 00:10:33,480 --> 00:10:36,680 Speaker 2: help me to know who was in which bedroom then 185 00:10:36,760 --> 00:10:37,800 Speaker 2: I can plan better. 186 00:10:39,080 --> 00:10:43,240 Speaker 1: Man, don't forget the music their day. So Derek Brotus 187 00:10:43,320 --> 00:10:47,160 Speaker 1: did what every normal father and husband would do in 188 00:10:47,160 --> 00:10:49,760 Speaker 1: twenty fourteen, he set up webcams in the house. 189 00:10:49,840 --> 00:10:53,360 Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, and they hadn't moved in, by the way. 190 00:10:53,400 --> 00:10:54,960 Speaker 2: In fact, it never moved in. They had moved some 191 00:10:54,960 --> 00:10:57,880 Speaker 2: of their stuff in, but given what was happening, they 192 00:10:57,920 --> 00:10:59,280 Speaker 2: were slow rolling, I think. 193 00:10:59,760 --> 00:11:02,640 Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah. So weeks after the second letter, so this 194 00:11:02,720 --> 00:11:05,360 Speaker 1: is a couple months after they closed down the house, 195 00:11:05,800 --> 00:11:09,280 Speaker 1: they got another letter that said where have you gone to? 196 00:11:09,720 --> 00:11:15,199 Speaker 1: Six fifty seven Boulevard is missing you? And that's fairly creepy, 197 00:11:15,200 --> 00:11:17,720 Speaker 1: but at least it wasn't a threatening letter this time. 198 00:11:18,400 --> 00:11:21,360 Speaker 1: But it also showed that the watcher was clearly watching 199 00:11:21,400 --> 00:11:25,920 Speaker 1: the house. And so a year went by a year, Chuck, 200 00:11:26,360 --> 00:11:28,920 Speaker 1: where these people who paid almost one and a half 201 00:11:29,000 --> 00:11:32,240 Speaker 1: million dollars for their house never moved into it because 202 00:11:32,280 --> 00:11:36,640 Speaker 1: they were too scared of whoever this person was, and 203 00:11:36,679 --> 00:11:39,720 Speaker 1: they also grew very paranoid. I don't think the Netflix 204 00:11:39,760 --> 00:11:42,840 Speaker 1: special took any liberties with that. I think it was 205 00:11:42,880 --> 00:11:47,920 Speaker 1: like an actual depiction of like how this family, especially 206 00:11:48,000 --> 00:11:51,600 Speaker 1: the Dag, kind of descended into paranoia and suspecting anyone 207 00:11:51,640 --> 00:11:55,480 Speaker 1: and everyone of being the Watcher. They just couldn't take 208 00:11:55,520 --> 00:11:57,640 Speaker 1: this at all, so they just never moved in the 209 00:11:57,640 --> 00:11:59,480 Speaker 1: house and they tried to sell it and it did 210 00:11:59,520 --> 00:12:00,000 Speaker 1: not go over it. 211 00:12:00,240 --> 00:12:03,040 Speaker 2: Well, I thought a second ago you were going to say, 212 00:12:03,080 --> 00:12:04,960 Speaker 2: these people didn't move into their one point for me 213 00:12:05,679 --> 00:12:08,320 Speaker 2: dollar house for a year because they were too scared 214 00:12:08,360 --> 00:12:09,079 Speaker 2: and privileged. 215 00:12:11,120 --> 00:12:12,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, we just won't move in. 216 00:12:12,800 --> 00:12:15,840 Speaker 1: So one other thing too, I called it a Netflix special, 217 00:12:15,880 --> 00:12:18,520 Speaker 1: which I think kind of outed me as almost. 218 00:12:18,160 --> 00:12:21,040 Speaker 3: Fifty right in a program. 219 00:12:21,120 --> 00:12:23,040 Speaker 1: It was the Netflix movie of the week. 220 00:12:23,640 --> 00:12:25,720 Speaker 3: You're watching your program. 221 00:12:26,120 --> 00:12:30,440 Speaker 2: So they went to court and said, hey, these Woods 222 00:12:30,440 --> 00:12:33,640 Speaker 2: people got this, they knew about this, they didn't disclose this. 223 00:12:34,360 --> 00:12:39,280 Speaker 2: Now we've got this scary haunted house, or maybe not haunted, 224 00:12:39,320 --> 00:12:42,600 Speaker 2: maybe being stalked by a real dangerous person, and. 225 00:12:42,559 --> 00:12:45,320 Speaker 3: The Woods were like, no, no, no, that's not true. 226 00:12:45,400 --> 00:12:49,920 Speaker 2: That didn't happen, And so news started getting hold of this, 227 00:12:50,040 --> 00:12:53,440 Speaker 2: they started reporting it. They actually did DNA testing and 228 00:12:53,480 --> 00:12:58,600 Speaker 2: found that woman's DNA on the envelopes and letters, and 229 00:12:58,600 --> 00:13:02,160 Speaker 2: that they had any postmarks on them. 230 00:13:02,440 --> 00:13:04,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's twenty miles away and closer to New York. 231 00:13:04,720 --> 00:13:07,240 Speaker 1: I don't know if we said this whole thing takes 232 00:13:07,320 --> 00:13:11,679 Speaker 1: place in uh, what is it, Westfield, New Jersey? Right, yeah, 233 00:13:11,840 --> 00:13:16,480 Speaker 1: of course, New Jersey. Okay, so the cops are involved. 234 00:13:16,520 --> 00:13:20,200 Speaker 1: Now the prosecutor's office is actually involved or spending money 235 00:13:20,240 --> 00:13:23,640 Speaker 1: testing this stuff for DNA, like you said, And they 236 00:13:23,679 --> 00:13:26,920 Speaker 1: started theorizing of who it could be, and that they 237 00:13:27,040 --> 00:13:30,640 Speaker 1: thought maybe it was one of the other prospective buyers 238 00:13:30,679 --> 00:13:33,000 Speaker 1: who was mad that they've been outbid by the. 239 00:13:32,920 --> 00:13:35,360 Speaker 3: Brotuses did get them out of there. 240 00:13:35,280 --> 00:13:38,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, could yeah, exactly. Could have been one of the neighbors, 241 00:13:38,679 --> 00:13:42,040 Speaker 1: like the watcher, essentially intimated. And then there was a 242 00:13:42,040 --> 00:13:44,439 Speaker 1: lot of suspicion on the Brotus family too, that they 243 00:13:44,440 --> 00:13:48,840 Speaker 1: were essentially like the family from the Amityville horror that 244 00:13:48,880 --> 00:13:52,600 Speaker 1: they had they were trying to basically create a sellable story, 245 00:13:52,880 --> 00:13:55,880 Speaker 1: which is what turned out to be the case. Actually, yeah, 246 00:13:56,000 --> 00:13:59,959 Speaker 1: or buyer's remorse too, that's another one too. But they 247 00:14:00,920 --> 00:14:04,280 Speaker 1: that would be a terrible, terrible thing to do if 248 00:14:04,640 --> 00:14:06,880 Speaker 1: you just wanted to sell the house, And there were 249 00:14:06,920 --> 00:14:10,640 Speaker 1: other people who had offered over, asking why would you 250 00:14:10,800 --> 00:14:16,000 Speaker 1: like saddle it with a now famous stalker rather than 251 00:14:16,040 --> 00:14:18,080 Speaker 1: just being like, we're gonna sell it and we'll try 252 00:14:18,080 --> 00:14:19,440 Speaker 1: to sell it at least break even. 253 00:14:20,120 --> 00:14:22,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, for sure. That doesn't make much sense. 254 00:14:22,280 --> 00:14:25,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, So in twenty sixteen, they try to subdivide the 255 00:14:25,000 --> 00:14:27,440 Speaker 2: property into a couple of lots, get rid of that house, 256 00:14:27,520 --> 00:14:28,240 Speaker 2: build two more. 257 00:14:28,800 --> 00:14:32,200 Speaker 3: The zoning board in the town said no, no, big 258 00:14:32,240 --> 00:14:32,760 Speaker 3: slap in the. 259 00:14:32,720 --> 00:14:37,200 Speaker 2: Face, and they rented the place and the renter was like, yeah, 260 00:14:37,240 --> 00:14:39,840 Speaker 2: I mean, I know about this watcher thing, but like, 261 00:14:40,120 --> 00:14:41,200 Speaker 2: I wasn't too freaked out. 262 00:14:41,280 --> 00:14:41,840 Speaker 3: It was fine. 263 00:14:41,960 --> 00:14:43,840 Speaker 2: It was a good house to rent, and I did 264 00:14:43,880 --> 00:14:45,920 Speaker 2: have a clause and out clause in my lease in 265 00:14:45,920 --> 00:14:46,680 Speaker 2: case another. 266 00:14:46,480 --> 00:14:47,240 Speaker 3: Letter popped up. 267 00:14:47,320 --> 00:14:50,120 Speaker 2: Smart, And another letter did pop up, and this was 268 00:14:51,280 --> 00:14:53,320 Speaker 2: a really creepy one, and I think you should. 269 00:14:53,040 --> 00:14:53,520 Speaker 3: Read this one. 270 00:14:53,720 --> 00:14:56,600 Speaker 1: Oh well, the whole thing. Okay, violent winds and bitter 271 00:14:56,680 --> 00:15:00,320 Speaker 1: cold to the vile and spiteful Derek and his wench 272 00:15:00,360 --> 00:15:02,960 Speaker 1: of a wife, Maria. Do you wonder who the Watcher is? 273 00:15:03,240 --> 00:15:06,200 Speaker 1: Turn around, idiots, Maybe you even spoke to me, one 274 00:15:06,200 --> 00:15:08,480 Speaker 1: of the so called neighbors who has no idea who 275 00:15:08,480 --> 00:15:11,120 Speaker 1: the Watcher could be. Or maybe you do know and 276 00:15:11,200 --> 00:15:14,680 Speaker 1: are too scared to tell anyone. Good move. I walked 277 00:15:14,680 --> 00:15:17,040 Speaker 1: by the news trucks. Remember this whole thing had become 278 00:15:17,120 --> 00:15:20,120 Speaker 1: like a media circus by now when they took over 279 00:15:20,200 --> 00:15:23,080 Speaker 1: my neighborhood and mocked me. I watched as you watched 280 00:15:23,080 --> 00:15:25,200 Speaker 1: from the dark house in an attempt to find me. 281 00:15:25,600 --> 00:15:30,280 Speaker 1: Telescopes and binoculars are wonderful inventions. Six fifty seven Boulevards 282 00:15:30,320 --> 00:15:33,720 Speaker 1: survived your attempted assault and stood strong with its army 283 00:15:33,760 --> 00:15:37,600 Speaker 1: of supporters barricading its gates. My soldiers of the boulevard 284 00:15:37,640 --> 00:15:40,360 Speaker 1: followed my orders to a tee. They carried out their 285 00:15:40,360 --> 00:15:43,119 Speaker 1: mission and saved the soul of six fifty seven Boulevard 286 00:15:43,160 --> 00:15:50,240 Speaker 1: with my orders. All hail the Watcher. Pretty full of themselves, right. 287 00:15:50,640 --> 00:15:53,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, he kind of came across as a smarmy a 288 00:15:53,080 --> 00:15:55,080 Speaker 2: hole in that one. Remember this watcher, is. 289 00:15:55,120 --> 00:15:57,520 Speaker 1: He or she don't forget they found female DNA on 290 00:15:57,520 --> 00:15:58,080 Speaker 1: the envelope. 291 00:15:58,120 --> 00:16:00,040 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, that's true. This sounds like something got I 292 00:16:00,040 --> 00:16:04,000 Speaker 2: would do. Though they did mention the renter in that letter. 293 00:16:04,880 --> 00:16:07,240 Speaker 2: The renter was a little bit spooked, but it was like, 294 00:16:07,760 --> 00:16:11,000 Speaker 2: but I'll stay here, you know, I like this place. 295 00:16:11,520 --> 00:16:14,600 Speaker 2: Get some of those cameras in there, and I'll be fine. 296 00:16:15,400 --> 00:16:19,280 Speaker 2: And then there was one last spooky, spooky tag on 297 00:16:19,280 --> 00:16:22,520 Speaker 2: this letter about the revenge that might befall them. Maybe 298 00:16:22,600 --> 00:16:25,880 Speaker 2: a car accident, maybe a fire, Maybe something as simple 299 00:16:25,880 --> 00:16:28,200 Speaker 2: as a mild illness that never seems to go away 300 00:16:28,560 --> 00:16:32,080 Speaker 2: but makes you feel sick day after day after day 301 00:16:32,200 --> 00:16:36,360 Speaker 2: after day after day. Maybe the mysterious death of a pet. 302 00:16:37,000 --> 00:16:40,600 Speaker 2: Loved one suddenly die. Planes and cars and bicycles crash, 303 00:16:40,920 --> 00:16:41,920 Speaker 2: bones break. 304 00:16:42,120 --> 00:16:45,840 Speaker 1: They threatened to make a plane crash. 305 00:16:45,920 --> 00:16:48,080 Speaker 3: Hey, that's pretty scary. 306 00:16:48,640 --> 00:16:50,880 Speaker 1: So how the whole thing end up? The Bronus family 307 00:16:50,920 --> 00:16:53,960 Speaker 1: finally did sell the house about five years after they 308 00:16:53,960 --> 00:16:54,720 Speaker 1: bought it, right. 309 00:16:55,640 --> 00:16:58,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, at a four hundred thousand dollars loss. And that 310 00:16:58,680 --> 00:16:59,960 Speaker 2: is the end of the story. What I don't know 311 00:17:00,120 --> 00:17:02,280 Speaker 2: was how the Netflix show that. Surely it just doesn't 312 00:17:02,280 --> 00:17:03,160 Speaker 2: wrap up that way. 313 00:17:03,200 --> 00:17:06,480 Speaker 1: There's Oh, you haven't seen it, No, have you? Yeah? 314 00:17:06,560 --> 00:17:08,199 Speaker 1: It's good? Oh is it good? 315 00:17:08,280 --> 00:17:09,000 Speaker 3: You watch the whole thing? 316 00:17:09,080 --> 00:17:10,359 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's How. 317 00:17:10,240 --> 00:17:11,719 Speaker 3: Does it end? Well, don't tell me how it ends. 318 00:17:11,760 --> 00:17:12,520 Speaker 3: I guess on air, but. 319 00:17:12,680 --> 00:17:15,080 Speaker 1: I honestly don't remember how it ends. But I don't. 320 00:17:15,160 --> 00:17:18,000 Speaker 1: It didn't seem to It didn't seem to be like 321 00:17:18,240 --> 00:17:20,840 Speaker 1: a succinct ending, like everything was wrapped up, if I 322 00:17:20,880 --> 00:17:25,560 Speaker 1: remember correctly. But it's nuts, man, it's off the rails. 323 00:17:26,080 --> 00:17:28,320 Speaker 2: It's got and and you know, I'm sure they fictionalize 324 00:17:28,359 --> 00:17:31,040 Speaker 2: a lot of it, but it's got what's his name, 325 00:17:31,080 --> 00:17:33,800 Speaker 2: the guy like Roseburn's husband, Bobby kind of ali. 326 00:17:34,320 --> 00:17:35,919 Speaker 1: Oh, he's married to Rosebrnd. I didn't know that. 327 00:17:36,520 --> 00:17:37,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, one of my favorite couples. 328 00:17:37,760 --> 00:17:39,800 Speaker 2: And I sat next to him in a lounge at 329 00:17:39,840 --> 00:17:42,480 Speaker 2: the LaGuardia Airport one time and he smiled at me. 330 00:17:42,880 --> 00:17:45,720 Speaker 3: So, yeah, I think we got something brewing their friendship one. 331 00:17:45,960 --> 00:17:48,840 Speaker 1: I think so too. Well, you should definitely watch the 332 00:17:48,880 --> 00:17:52,520 Speaker 1: Netflix special on the Watcher because you need something to 333 00:17:52,520 --> 00:17:53,320 Speaker 1: talk about with him. 334 00:17:54,080 --> 00:17:56,560 Speaker 2: That's right, And thanks to everyone for indulging this extra 335 00:17:56,640 --> 00:18:00,000 Speaker 2: long two parts shorty and be safe tomorrow. 336 00:18:00,240 --> 00:18:01,439 Speaker 3: Happy Halloween, everybody. 337 00:18:01,440 --> 00:18:07,080 Speaker 1: Halloween Everybody Short, Stuff's Out. 338 00:18:07,640 --> 00:18:09,960 Speaker 2: Stuff You Should Know is a production of iHeartRadio. 339 00:18:10,440 --> 00:18:13,640 Speaker 3: For more podcasts my heart Radio, visit the iHeartRadio app, 340 00:18:13,840 --> 00:18:16,760 Speaker 3: Apple Podcasts, or wherever you listen to your favorite shows.