WEBVTT - Keep Fahking Grinding with Michael Carnell 0:00:09.039 --> 0:00:11.159 Welcome to the Good Stuff. I'm Jacob Schick and I'm 0:00:11.240 --> 0:00:13.400 joined by my co host and wife, Ashley Shick. 0:00:13.920 --> 0:00:16.479 Jake is a third generation combat Marine and I'm a 0:00:16.520 --> 0:00:20.400 gold Star granddaughter. We work together to serve military veterans, 0:00:20.520 --> 0:00:24.120 first responders, frontline healthcare workers, and their families with mental 0:00:24.160 --> 0:00:28.000 and emotional wellness through traditional and non traditional therapy. At 0:00:28.040 --> 0:00:30.080 One Tribe Foundation, we. 0:00:30.040 --> 0:00:32.600 Believe everyone has a story to tell, not only about 0:00:32.600 --> 0:00:34.760 the peaks, but also the valleys they've been through to 0:00:34.800 --> 0:00:36.120 get them to where they are today. 0:00:36.640 --> 0:00:39.120 Each week, we invite a guests to tell us their story, 0:00:39.200 --> 0:00:41.600 to share with us the lessons they've learned that shaped 0:00:41.600 --> 0:00:43.519 who they are and what they're doing to pay it 0:00:43.600 --> 0:00:44.880 forward and give back. 0:00:45.520 --> 0:00:47.520 Our mission with this show is to dig deep into 0:00:47.520 --> 0:00:49.840 our guest's journey so that we can celebrate the hope 0:00:49.880 --> 0:00:51.920 and inspiration their story has to offer. 0:00:52.159 --> 0:00:54.840 We are thrilled you're joining us again. 0:00:55.360 --> 0:00:56.720 Welcome to the Good Stuff. 0:00:57.760 --> 0:01:01.280 Today, we're joined by our very close friend and brother, 0:01:01.520 --> 0:01:03.720 Michael Kurnell. We have wanted to have Mike on the 0:01:03.720 --> 0:01:07.440 podcast since day one, no doubt, but making it happen 0:01:07.480 --> 0:01:10.040 hasn't been as easy as just scheduling an interview. 0:01:10.640 --> 0:01:13.000 Reason being he's in a big fight right now, a 0:01:13.040 --> 0:01:17.119 fight for his life, and he is battling this marine 0:01:17.120 --> 0:01:19.880 brother of mine was diagnosed with stage four colon cancer 0:01:19.920 --> 0:01:23.880 almost three years ago, which has now spread to his liver, lungs, 0:01:24.040 --> 0:01:27.920 lymph nodes, and stomach wall. He just told it was 0:01:27.920 --> 0:01:33.080 inoperable and incurable and life expectancy was short. But today 0:01:33.120 --> 0:01:35.720 he is here with us, very much alive. He is 0:01:35.760 --> 0:01:39.480 truly an inspiration and the epitome of a warrior. This 0:01:39.520 --> 0:01:42.800 isn't an episode about being sick. It's very much an 0:01:42.880 --> 0:01:47.000 episode about truly living. We are better people for Mike's 0:01:47.000 --> 0:01:49.920 presence in our lives, and we are so grateful that 0:01:50.000 --> 0:01:51.800 he is here with us and able to share his 0:01:51.880 --> 0:01:52.520 story with you. 0:01:53.320 --> 0:01:56.600 This was truly an amazing conversation with Michael, and we 0:01:56.680 --> 0:01:59.440 wanted the episode to just jump right into a story 0:01:59.520 --> 0:02:02.000 about the time time we all traveled to Ireland together. 0:02:02.200 --> 0:02:02.920 So here we go. 0:02:03.360 --> 0:02:09.280 Enjoy I loved Ireland. It's such a good time there, 0:02:09.560 --> 0:02:10.360 such a good time. 0:02:10.919 --> 0:02:12.840 Think good, Sharon Gurlsby. 0:02:13.880 --> 0:02:14.800 We're going to get into that. 0:02:14.880 --> 0:02:18.959 But they wouldn't let you pour. You do not the 0:02:19.080 --> 0:02:22.760 yank pull a fucking pine, like you don't tell him no. 0:02:23.840 --> 0:02:27.000 So the backstory on that. Real quick, we were in 0:02:27.120 --> 0:02:31.400 Ireland with Gabby and Michael Carnell his first trip over 0:02:31.480 --> 0:02:34.160 the Pond to the Emerald Isle, and we were in 0:02:34.200 --> 0:02:37.000 the beautiful village of Kinsale, which we've talked about on 0:02:37.040 --> 0:02:39.919 this show before. When we had Danny Manning on Carney 0:02:39.919 --> 0:02:41.840 has this thing. What's your thing about pouring a pine? 0:02:41.880 --> 0:02:43.480 It just it just it started. 0:02:43.520 --> 0:02:46.320 When I graduated high school, my father took me to 0:02:46.400 --> 0:02:49.320 New York to go and watch the Red Sox and 0:02:49.400 --> 0:02:52.800 Yankees play at old Yankee statey before they tore it down. 0:02:53.520 --> 0:02:55.920 I don't know, maybe he just felt like, look, I 0:02:55.960 --> 0:02:58.679 can't really get you into the everyba, but let's see 0:02:58.680 --> 0:02:59.840 what we could do right. 0:03:00.680 --> 0:03:01.359 And there was this. 0:03:01.680 --> 0:03:04.440 Back called Tommy Makom's Irish Pavilion. Tommy Makam is a 0:03:04.480 --> 0:03:07.240 famous Irish singer. So my dad walks up to like 0:03:07.240 --> 0:03:08.760 the guy at the door. He's like, hey, look, you 0:03:08.760 --> 0:03:10.240 know I'm gonna take my son and real quick, he's 0:03:10.240 --> 0:03:11.120 got to use the bathroom. 0:03:11.160 --> 0:03:13.480 We're just here for his graduation. Guy's like, I don't care. 0:03:13.400 --> 0:03:16.519 Whatever, Lets me and I go have a beer with 0:03:16.520 --> 0:03:18.160 my dad at a bar for the first time, and 0:03:18.200 --> 0:03:19.520 I was like, this is pretty cool. You know. 0:03:19.600 --> 0:03:21.200 I'm like drinking butt heavy whatever. 0:03:21.360 --> 0:03:23.680 I didn't care, trying to stand in the background so 0:03:23.760 --> 0:03:26.400 nobody can see me. But the next day we wake up, 0:03:26.400 --> 0:03:28.520 when we go back, he's like, I just want to 0:03:28.520 --> 0:03:31.280 try and get a picture. So we walked behind the 0:03:31.320 --> 0:03:32.960 bar and just talked to the box and he was 0:03:33.000 --> 0:03:35.880 straight off the boat too, like a shameless o'lardi or whatever. 0:03:36.560 --> 0:03:38.640 I mean, he was talking to hell's how you doing. 0:03:39.200 --> 0:03:41.480 My dad talked to him and he's like he looks around. 0:03:41.600 --> 0:03:44.160 He's like, give me are some went behind the bod 0:03:44.240 --> 0:03:47.880 and let me hold the bottle of Jamison portoglass or somebody. 0:03:47.880 --> 0:03:49.560 And then that's just kind of how it started and 0:03:49.560 --> 0:03:52.360 then became this thing of whenever I travel, I try 0:03:52.400 --> 0:03:55.360 to let them let me go behind the bond or pining. 0:03:55.920 --> 0:03:57.840 Nine times out of ten they don't care. When we 0:03:57.840 --> 0:04:01.280 were there, it was just right post COVID, so they 0:04:01.320 --> 0:04:04.240 were like most of the guys like I don't care. Yeah, 0:04:04.360 --> 0:04:07.280 you know, because the first place was a trumpt I 0:04:07.320 --> 0:04:09.040 went on so that they had like where we had 0:04:09.080 --> 0:04:11.200 breakfast at. But then there was like a bar that 0:04:11.320 --> 0:04:14.440 was out on like the first tea right there, Gaby, 0:04:14.560 --> 0:04:15.320 noone walking around. 0:04:15.320 --> 0:04:15.760 We stopped. 0:04:15.880 --> 0:04:17.599 We just figured we'll grab some of drink or whatever, 0:04:17.640 --> 0:04:21.160 and there was nobody in there, and I just asked again. 0:04:21.240 --> 0:04:24.080 He was like another little sixteen seventeen year old famous 0:04:24.080 --> 0:04:26.840 old Larry just in there and he's like, ah, I'm 0:04:26.880 --> 0:04:30.599 not really supposed to do this, but sure, go ahead, 0:04:29.720 --> 0:04:33.800 started poring pints and then it was everyby on Ireland 0:04:33.880 --> 0:04:35.920 like I'm gonna pour pint as many times as i can. 0:04:36.040 --> 0:04:37.360 So so then. 0:04:37.279 --> 0:04:39.200 We get to can Sale, which we know a lot 0:04:39.200 --> 0:04:41.560 of people there, and now you're family to everyone and 0:04:41.600 --> 0:04:44.040 can Sail. This amazing village in Ireland that we love 0:04:44.120 --> 0:04:44.760 so much. 0:04:44.720 --> 0:04:47.200 Was the White Something there was the White House, the 0:04:47.240 --> 0:04:50.039 White House, the Frowley is the White House great place. 0:04:50.120 --> 0:04:53.040 So they had a little special reception with Irish veterans 0:04:53.080 --> 0:04:55.520 there in their back room and then Mike's like, hey, 0:04:55.520 --> 0:04:57.400 I'm gonna go, I'm gonna go pour some pints and 0:04:57.440 --> 0:04:59.719 so he leaves. Well, he comes back a little while 0:04:59.760 --> 0:05:02.280 later and he's like, yeah, they wouldn't let me next door. 0:05:03.600 --> 0:05:06.159 You can't come back here, no way, there's nobody come 0:05:06.200 --> 0:05:08.200 back here and pour pints and I'm all right, my bad. 0:05:08.360 --> 0:05:08.680 Sorry. 0:05:08.760 --> 0:05:10.640 Well, what they didn't know is that we were with 0:05:10.720 --> 0:05:14.760 the great Sharon Crosby, one of the greatest humans on earth. 0:05:14.800 --> 0:05:18.960 And Sharon immediately stands up and says, nope, come with me, 0:05:19.760 --> 0:05:21.159 and so next thing I know, they're gone. 0:05:21.160 --> 0:05:24.520 Fort not exactly how she said either, she said it 0:05:24.640 --> 0:05:25.960 was a lot more colorful. 0:05:25.600 --> 0:05:29.920 Than there's a few fom you're not gonna tell the 0:05:30.000 --> 0:05:32.239 Stephan Yank and he's not gonna pour a pint behind 0:05:32.240 --> 0:05:33.880 the bar, just the way she did it to him, 0:05:33.920 --> 0:05:37.200 like you fucking not telling him he's not pouring a pipe. 0:05:37.760 --> 0:05:39.560 And then she's like, you know what, as a matter 0:05:39.600 --> 0:05:41.479 of fact, I'm going next door. Will you make sure 0:05:41.480 --> 0:05:43.720 he finishes poorn his pint? Michael, when you're done with 0:05:43.800 --> 0:05:45.840 a point, you come next door to me. I walk 0:05:45.880 --> 0:05:48.719 all they and there's Sharon and like four women and 0:05:48.760 --> 0:05:51.760 they just absolutely loved me, and they just like threw 0:05:51.839 --> 0:05:54.840 me behind the bar and just said it born points. 0:05:54.880 --> 0:05:56.600 And then the next day she sent me a message 0:05:56.680 --> 0:05:59.159 on Facebook. She's like, you're good to go, and she 0:05:59.360 --> 0:06:03.679 listened like fteen different like they all know you're coming 0:06:03.640 --> 0:06:04.760 and just drop my name. 0:06:05.000 --> 0:06:06.279 I was like, I love you. 0:06:07.160 --> 0:06:09.039 The next thing i know, we're still sitting at the 0:06:09.040 --> 0:06:11.000 White House. Gabby looked at me at one point she's like, 0:06:11.080 --> 0:06:13.680 is he good. I'm like, oh, he's with Sharon. He's fine. 0:06:13.839 --> 0:06:15.280 He may to Scotland. 0:06:16.920 --> 0:06:18.240 Those women were having fun with me. 0:06:18.279 --> 0:06:21.440 They're on the train to Dublin. But no. But next 0:06:21.480 --> 0:06:23.680 thing we know, we're getting this picture of this big 0:06:23.720 --> 0:06:27.800 American plaque with Carnie and like five Irish women, you know, 0:06:27.960 --> 0:06:29.080 flank on either side. 0:06:29.520 --> 0:06:32.839 My belt buck will like tucked in and everything. One 0:06:32.839 --> 0:06:34.600 of our friends, Ryan James, made fun of when he 0:06:34.640 --> 0:06:36.679 saw that picture. He's like, would you just graduate boot camp? 0:06:43.240 --> 0:06:45.279 Great times? Great times in Ireland. 0:06:45.560 --> 0:06:46.920 It was an absolute blouse. I mean it was a 0:06:47.000 --> 0:06:48.760 dream come true. I mean that was always one of 0:06:48.800 --> 0:06:51.880 those as a kid. I mean, my mom hasn't even 0:06:51.880 --> 0:06:53.440 been and she's always wanted to go, you know, and 0:06:53.480 --> 0:06:56.839 I'm like, look go, I'm like, especially now she's just 0:06:56.880 --> 0:06:57.800 tired and everything else. 0:06:57.880 --> 0:07:01.000 But back then, like move and it was all COVID. 0:07:01.040 --> 0:07:03.679 She was all like worry and she had heart disease 0:07:03.800 --> 0:07:06.599 and cancer and everything else. I mean, it wasn't like 0:07:06.640 --> 0:07:09.840 the greatest time for her to be doing traveling. But 0:07:11.200 --> 0:07:13.440 now they're retiring again for the second time in the 0:07:13.520 --> 0:07:17.400 move to Hiltonhead, so they're more up to doing more 0:07:17.440 --> 0:07:19.720 traveling and getting now, which is really good for them 0:07:19.760 --> 0:07:20.280 so well. 0:07:20.560 --> 0:07:22.840 And part of the reason we decided to take that 0:07:22.920 --> 0:07:25.560 trip and thank you Jake for making that happen, was 0:07:25.600 --> 0:07:28.960 that we went to you about three years ago almost 0:07:28.960 --> 0:07:31.840 and said, what's your bucket list? And you know we're 0:07:31.880 --> 0:07:36.960 here sitting today in your office at your home. How 0:07:36.960 --> 0:07:37.920 are you feeling today? 0:07:38.520 --> 0:07:41.520 I look at in two ways, you know, physically every 0:07:41.600 --> 0:07:43.640 day is it's it's a battle, you know. I mean, 0:07:43.680 --> 0:07:46.640 it's it is what it is when you get diagnosed 0:07:46.640 --> 0:07:50.400 with stage four cancer that it doesn't matter what it 0:07:50.440 --> 0:07:52.440 is though, whether it's your stomach with it, your feet 0:07:52.480 --> 0:07:55.160 with it's your arm. I mean, it's it's cold outside now, 0:07:55.200 --> 0:07:57.720 so that the medicine I have makes my bones really cold. 0:07:57.880 --> 0:07:59.960 The wrapping my hands and fingers is a thousand times 0:08:00.120 --> 0:08:01.840 was worse than it's been. I knew it was gonna 0:08:01.840 --> 0:08:04.520 get like to that with the winter coming up, and 0:08:04.560 --> 0:08:08.400 it makes walking, you know, difficult. I gotta usually cane 0:08:08.440 --> 0:08:10.800 half the time, or I'm grabbing the kids like get 0:08:10.840 --> 0:08:15.280 me here, hold on on my falling over. Mentally, I'm 0:08:15.280 --> 0:08:17.040 blessed to be able to wake up every single day, 0:08:17.120 --> 0:08:19.960 you know, I mean I realized that we're all living 0:08:20.000 --> 0:08:20.600 in the bar or time. 0:08:20.600 --> 0:08:21.440 I think you said that before. 0:08:21.440 --> 0:08:23.040 We're all living in the ball of time, and sometimes 0:08:23.080 --> 0:08:24.880 you look at the hourglass and something. You know, maybe 0:08:24.880 --> 0:08:27.120 my sin's is a bit less than everybody else's. But 0:08:27.960 --> 0:08:29.520 I'm happy that I got to wake up today. And 0:08:29.640 --> 0:08:31.680 like I tell people when they're like, I'm having a 0:08:31.720 --> 0:08:33.040 rough morning or whatever, I'm. 0:08:33.000 --> 0:08:34.680 Like, dude, you woke up today. 0:08:34.760 --> 0:08:36.960 The devil's already pissed off it you're so don't worry 0:08:36.960 --> 0:08:38.800 about it, right, you already tagged one thing for the day. 0:08:38.880 --> 0:08:39.480 Just keep going. 0:08:39.760 --> 0:08:42.360 That's kind of how I mentally, even in the morning, 0:08:42.400 --> 0:08:44.680 tell myself I do it, Just get up and then 0:08:45.720 --> 0:08:47.640 make myself get up and get going for the day. 0:08:47.720 --> 0:08:51.800 So you know, it's fifty to fifty physically okay today 0:08:51.800 --> 0:08:53.960 and mentally yeah, I'm squared on. 0:08:54.120 --> 0:08:56.040 So yeah for the most part. 0:08:56.080 --> 0:08:57.800 You know, to put glasses on and then you'll blur 0:08:57.840 --> 0:08:58.840 and I can't think anymore. 0:09:00.120 --> 0:09:03.280 You just wrapped up your one hundred and thirtieth round 0:09:03.320 --> 0:09:06.319 a chemo why only one thirty? 0:09:06.679 --> 0:09:07.959 Yeah, I know you. 0:09:07.960 --> 0:09:09.920 That's a funny question people ask some time, like, oh, 0:09:09.920 --> 0:09:11.319 so was that your last one honeymoon? 0:09:11.400 --> 0:09:13.280 You have to go? I'm like, no, I have no idea, 0:09:14.080 --> 0:09:14.280 you know. 0:09:14.520 --> 0:09:17.920 I'm like when they when they tell you inoperable and curable, 0:09:17.960 --> 0:09:19.679 you keep going. And you know, people are like, oh, 0:09:19.920 --> 0:09:22.400 chemo so bad. I had to do two rounds of chemo. 0:09:22.480 --> 0:09:28.200 I'm like, don't keep in the room because we through tongue. 0:09:28.440 --> 0:09:29.920 At the same time, I'm like, I've been through one 0:09:29.960 --> 0:09:31.920 hundred and thirty rounds of chemo and it's been one 0:09:32.000 --> 0:09:35.880 hundred and thirty different feelings every time. So once I 0:09:36.040 --> 0:09:38.559 was like, I've been through this like twice or three times. 0:09:39.320 --> 0:09:41.520 I get it. It sucked, it does I go. 0:09:41.600 --> 0:09:44.160 But you know, you get to the extent that I'm 0:09:44.160 --> 0:09:46.360 at now, and you know, my body at a couple 0:09:46.360 --> 0:09:48.280 of way times starts to deteriorate, right, I mean, there's 0:09:48.480 --> 0:09:52.400 so much you can take this before you know your 0:09:52.440 --> 0:09:54.560 body breaks ound. Like I said, the neurapathy and all that, 0:09:54.600 --> 0:09:57.160 but it is what it is. Like if I could 0:09:57.200 --> 0:10:00.360 do one thirty one and they say you're done, let's 0:10:00.400 --> 0:10:02.160 do it. If they tell me I got to do 0:10:02.200 --> 0:10:04.280 you two hundred and fifty before I get finished. All right, 0:10:04.280 --> 0:10:06.000 well let's go for two fifty. You know, I'm not 0:10:06.000 --> 0:10:08.320 trying to break any chemo records, that's for sure. 0:10:10.559 --> 0:10:12.160 Well, as long as you get to keep wearing those 0:10:12.160 --> 0:10:13.440 Grandpa sweaters like that. 0:10:13.400 --> 0:10:16.240 Dude, thank you? When do you talk about grandpas sweater? 0:10:16.520 --> 0:10:17.280 This thing is one. 0:10:17.320 --> 0:10:19.280 We're good to go because money, I could wear this 0:10:19.360 --> 0:10:21.880 out and probably what the hell you want to. 0:10:21.840 --> 0:10:23.600 Do, certainly in a pub in Ireland. 0:10:23.679 --> 0:10:25.000 Yeah, I definitely we. 0:10:24.920 --> 0:10:27.440 Have wanted to have you on the Good Stuff since 0:10:27.600 --> 0:10:29.640 day one. I mean you were literally one of the 0:10:29.640 --> 0:10:31.520 first people we put on our list of people that 0:10:31.559 --> 0:10:35.400 we wanted to have on this show, mostly because of 0:10:35.440 --> 0:10:37.680 that mindset that you just talked about. You know, you 0:10:37.679 --> 0:10:41.120 don't want to break any records, but not to glance 0:10:41.240 --> 0:10:43.160 over the weight of the fact that you've had one 0:10:43.240 --> 0:10:49.439 hundred and thirty rounds of chemo, but your mindset is unbelievable. 0:10:50.480 --> 0:10:53.760 It's hard because just like anybody, you can have a 0:10:53.760 --> 0:10:56.199 good day in a bad day, right in the mindset 0:10:56.240 --> 0:10:57.440 of trying to say. 0:10:58.840 --> 0:11:00.360 Positive all time. 0:11:01.920 --> 0:11:03.640 One of the things they first told us when I 0:11:03.679 --> 0:11:05.520 got diagnosed in and they give this like big book 0:11:05.559 --> 0:11:09.640 of like this cancer book, like the avc's dictionary whatever. 0:11:10.520 --> 0:11:12.000 And this has been a few times since then. My 0:11:12.040 --> 0:11:13.559 wife felt like, where's that book? Were you go back 0:11:13.600 --> 0:11:15.080 and find it because there was something in there that 0:11:15.160 --> 0:11:15.720 was important. 0:11:15.760 --> 0:11:16.000 Right. 0:11:16.679 --> 0:11:18.280 But one of the things they tell you, like at 0:11:18.280 --> 0:11:20.520 the beginning, is like you got to get rid of negatiory. Yeah, 0:11:20.559 --> 0:11:23.800 get rid of toxicity. Theeasings are not good for somebody 0:11:23.840 --> 0:11:25.760 who has cancer. You don't need stress in your life. 0:11:25.760 --> 0:11:29.240 I'm like, well that's everybody, right, I mean, who needs 0:11:29.240 --> 0:11:31.480 any that kind of stuff in their life. So it 0:11:31.640 --> 0:11:34.920 just became this thing of trying to figure out between 0:11:35.280 --> 0:11:37.240 my wife and I in the beginning, because when I 0:11:37.280 --> 0:11:39.720 found out at first was a culture shock. 0:11:39.800 --> 0:11:43.959 It was a what are we gonna do? Like we 0:11:44.280 --> 0:11:45.600 didn't prep for this, you know. 0:11:45.840 --> 0:11:48.200 Yeah, I was doing great at work and the kids 0:11:48.240 --> 0:11:52.200 are good and everybody's healthy except for me apparently. But 0:11:52.240 --> 0:11:53.880 even when they came and they said you have cancer, 0:11:53.920 --> 0:11:55.760 I was like, all right, well cool, everybody gets cancer, 0:11:56.720 --> 0:11:59.520 like what kind? And they were like stage four. It's 0:11:59.600 --> 0:12:01.120 like oh, so we went right to the end and 0:12:01.160 --> 0:12:03.480 then like stage four being like, oh is a bee? 0:12:03.679 --> 0:12:06.319 I didn't even know, I thought it was just numbers. 0:12:06.360 --> 0:12:10.880 I'm like, so the bee is what like bad? I 0:12:11.040 --> 0:12:13.920 just remember sitting with with Gabby, my wife, a couple 0:12:14.000 --> 0:12:16.240 of days later on the on the bed, reading through 0:12:16.240 --> 0:12:18.480 the book, and just like I was still trying to 0:12:18.480 --> 0:12:21.959 wrack everything in my head because I'm a problem solver. 0:12:22.200 --> 0:12:24.520 That's just what I do. If there's an issue, I 0:12:24.559 --> 0:12:26.520 figure it out. And I attacked it. I go after 0:12:26.559 --> 0:12:31.320 and solved the problems for everybody. And I couldn't figured 0:12:31.320 --> 0:12:33.040 this out. I could have wrapped my head around it. 0:12:33.240 --> 0:12:35.320 I was like, what am I going to do? And 0:12:35.360 --> 0:12:37.880 the best thing that happened to me, outside of having 0:12:37.920 --> 0:12:40.400 Gabby trying to confidence all the time, was I had 0:12:40.400 --> 0:12:42.360 a friend from work who called me up and said, 0:12:43.040 --> 0:12:44.920 I heard about your diagnosis. I want to give you 0:12:45.000 --> 0:12:46.480 a few days to go ahead and think about it, 0:12:46.760 --> 0:12:49.200 but let me tell you a story real quick. And 0:12:49.200 --> 0:12:52.040 he said, my mom had exactly what you have. And 0:12:52.080 --> 0:12:54.280 He's like, and all should do is eat water, burger 0:12:54.400 --> 0:12:58.440 and drink large day coachs every day. And I could 0:12:58.440 --> 0:13:00.080 tell you exactly I was. I mean, we were in 0:13:00.120 --> 0:13:02.480 the old house. I was in the kitchen. I know 0:13:02.559 --> 0:13:04.760 exactly where's because they stopped once he told me that, 0:13:05.480 --> 0:13:06.880 and he was like, and I want to let you 0:13:06.920 --> 0:13:07.120 know that. 0:13:07.120 --> 0:13:08.199 Sho's still here today. 0:13:08.480 --> 0:13:10.360 I was like, all right, so this can be done 0:13:10.559 --> 0:13:15.200 because doctors don't give you that this could be not 0:13:15.280 --> 0:13:19.520 a problem. Michael, yeah, stays four beat cancer, going cancers, 0:13:19.679 --> 0:13:21.200 fantastatized to your liver. 0:13:21.600 --> 0:13:22.200 Not a problem. 0:13:22.200 --> 0:13:25.880 This is gonna be issuing And they're like, so, sir, yeah, 0:13:26.440 --> 0:13:28.679 in opera and cariable for a reason. Na, that's what 0:13:28.720 --> 0:13:31.640 it means. And I remember when the doctor told me. Originally, 0:13:31.720 --> 0:13:33.280 like I slammed the chair on the floor and I 0:13:33.320 --> 0:13:35.320 was like, we're gonna to rewrite that because that doesn't 0:13:35.360 --> 0:13:38.280 work for me. But getting that news from that friend 0:13:38.440 --> 0:13:40.319 just kind of put the positive attitude in my mind, like, 0:13:40.320 --> 0:13:43.000 all right, somebody's done this before, somebody's beat this before, 0:13:43.320 --> 0:13:46.439 and if I'm gonna be negative, it's. 0:13:46.280 --> 0:13:48.120 Not going to be good. You know, it's going to 0:13:48.320 --> 0:13:49.319 just beat me down. 0:13:49.360 --> 0:13:51.320 I've been into the rooms before and seen the cancer 0:13:51.360 --> 0:13:55.680 patients that just look like they're like they're never coming back, 0:13:56.080 --> 0:13:58.480 like that's it, that's their last appointment, and they're gonna 0:13:58.480 --> 0:14:00.280 go to hospice whenever they're gonna go home. And they're 0:14:00.280 --> 0:14:02.080 going to pass out that night and not wake up 0:14:02.080 --> 0:14:04.720 the next day. And you know, I walk in the nurses, 0:14:04.920 --> 0:14:07.080 They're like, outside of the two times I lost my 0:14:07.120 --> 0:14:09.080 mind in there, they they're like, we love you. You know. 0:14:09.360 --> 0:14:11.520 I walk into the iPad, I'm laughing half the time. 0:14:11.559 --> 0:14:14.800 I'm cracking jokes Eve. When I don't feel good. It's like, 0:14:14.840 --> 0:14:16.200 if you know I'm not gonna make it through life, 0:14:16.280 --> 0:14:18.839 we don't keep it light. That's just Marines too, right. 0:14:18.880 --> 0:14:20.720 I Mean, we bust on each other so much, but 0:14:20.760 --> 0:14:23.000 it's like it's out of absolute love. So if we 0:14:23.000 --> 0:14:26.680 don't keep that positive attitude of mindset and the one 0:14:26.720 --> 0:14:29.600 step mentality, you know, and keep moving forward because. 0:14:29.360 --> 0:14:32.200 It doesn't matter what what a Marcus throw. 0:14:32.280 --> 0:14:34.200 I watched this interview within the other day and he's like, 0:14:34.280 --> 0:14:35.880 ninety percent of what was in the movies not what 0:14:36.000 --> 0:14:38.320 really happened. And he tells the stories like I was 0:14:38.360 --> 0:14:41.480 on a rock for like a day, crawling from the 0:14:41.480 --> 0:14:44.600 Taliban they do where it was they were shooting you know, 0:14:44.760 --> 0:14:47.480 RPGs at me, and they were throwing rockets and grenades 0:14:47.480 --> 0:14:48.440 and everyone else down on me. 0:14:48.480 --> 0:14:50.280 And he's like, I just kept moving. 0:14:50.440 --> 0:14:51.880 I just kept moving He's like, I knew there was 0:14:51.920 --> 0:14:53.120 this lake in front of me, and I need to 0:14:53.120 --> 0:14:55.120 get some water, so I just kept moving. It's like, 0:14:55.440 --> 0:14:57.160 it's just one of those mentalities in your head. If 0:14:57.160 --> 0:15:00.880 you just keep that one step forward mentality, if you 0:15:00.880 --> 0:15:02.120 could take it, and no matter if you. 0:15:02.040 --> 0:15:03.680 Get a crawl and you get to walk, you're gonna run. 0:15:03.800 --> 0:15:06.600 However you make it, you make it, and then strind 0:15:06.640 --> 0:15:08.840 yourself with a good support system, people like you guys, 0:15:08.840 --> 0:15:11.360 people like the Aboard, people like the Turners, people have 0:15:11.360 --> 0:15:13.600 all these non profits that we do work with her. 0:15:14.400 --> 0:15:17.000 As you said, you shrond yourself with good people, by default, 0:15:17.120 --> 0:15:20.560 you become a better person. So all these great people 0:15:20.640 --> 0:15:22.360 have taught me so many things that have changed my 0:15:22.440 --> 0:15:25.720 mentality over years to try and be paused. 0:15:25.720 --> 0:15:27.560 And plus I got three kids. 0:15:27.360 --> 0:15:30.560 And I'm getting older, I'm mature and trying to teach 0:15:30.600 --> 0:15:32.240 them the right things life and be positive. 0:15:32.280 --> 0:15:38.960 So your mindset and how hard you've battled over the 0:15:39.000 --> 0:15:43.800 past three years, I mean, I'm speechless. I really don't 0:15:43.840 --> 0:15:49.320 have the words to how consistent you've been with this mindset. 0:15:50.640 --> 0:15:53.600 No days off from your deciding to live. 0:15:53.920 --> 0:15:56.440 Yeah, you know, it's a Navy seal thing. When no 0:15:56.520 --> 0:15:58.880 days off, right, that was something hitty to day. I 0:15:58.960 --> 0:16:01.600 was like, I say, somebody, yeah, I'll be like, it's 0:16:01.720 --> 0:16:03.560 been three years. 0:16:04.200 --> 0:16:06.920 I'm like, I don't get a break it. 0:16:06.960 --> 0:16:09.760 Everybody gets a Friday night, Saturday, Sunday. Like I don't 0:16:09.760 --> 0:16:11.960 get that. I get to go to bed sometimes in 0:16:12.000 --> 0:16:14.440 a great mood and wake up absolutely miserable and be 0:16:14.520 --> 0:16:18.239 miserable all weekend. But then it's so horrible the summertime, 0:16:18.360 --> 0:16:21.520 right because with this medicine stuff. I'm like, I went 0:16:21.560 --> 0:16:25.840 to my oldest daughters soccer game and walking from the 0:16:25.880 --> 0:16:29.840 car to the field to set up a ten with 0:16:29.960 --> 0:16:32.600 a lows bucket that has a fan that blows ice 0:16:33.400 --> 0:16:36.280 to watching her game at one hundred and ten degrees whatever, 0:16:36.400 --> 0:16:38.200 and then packing it all up and get back in 0:16:38.280 --> 0:16:39.680 the car. And I looked in my awaye and I go, 0:16:39.760 --> 0:16:42.440 I'm done, and she's just looking like it's eleven o'clock 0:16:42.480 --> 0:16:44.360 when I'm like, I'm done for the day. Like I 0:16:44.400 --> 0:16:47.480 don't make any of the plans we're going home. I'm 0:16:47.480 --> 0:16:49.760 gonna sit on that couch and I'm not moving, like 0:16:49.840 --> 0:16:51.520 I just collapsed. 0:16:51.560 --> 0:16:53.680 It's just it gets you. 0:16:53.960 --> 0:16:58.600 And I'm still learning that with my limits as it's 0:16:58.640 --> 0:17:00.880 becoming more and more difficult to do things. But I'm 0:17:00.920 --> 0:17:02.920 also that stubborn marine in my head, like I don't 0:17:02.960 --> 0:17:03.400 care what. 0:17:04.440 --> 0:17:08.000 This is telling me. I'm going to make it. I mean, 0:17:08.080 --> 0:17:08.600 I had a goal. 0:17:08.640 --> 0:17:11.840 I always wanted to run the Boston Marathon, and a 0:17:11.840 --> 0:17:14.159 couple months who I texted to of my cousins and 0:17:14.200 --> 0:17:16.720 they both have done it, one of them on college nurse, 0:17:16.760 --> 0:17:18.800 and I was like, hey, I just want to get 0:17:18.800 --> 0:17:21.520 your opinion on this before I actually start thinking about it. 0:17:21.560 --> 0:17:22.760 I go, I can't do the training right now because 0:17:22.760 --> 0:17:25.439