1 00:00:09,039 --> 00:00:11,159 Speaker 1: Welcome to the Good Stuff. I'm Jacob Schick and I'm 2 00:00:11,240 --> 00:00:13,400 Speaker 1: joined by my co host and wife, Ashley Shick. 3 00:00:13,920 --> 00:00:16,479 Speaker 2: Jake is a third generation combat Marine and I'm a 4 00:00:16,520 --> 00:00:20,400 Speaker 2: gold Star granddaughter. We work together to serve military veterans, 5 00:00:20,520 --> 00:00:24,120 Speaker 2: first responders, frontline healthcare workers, and their families with mental 6 00:00:24,160 --> 00:00:28,000 Speaker 2: and emotional wellness through traditional and non traditional therapy. At 7 00:00:28,040 --> 00:00:30,080 Speaker 2: One Tribe Foundation, we. 8 00:00:30,040 --> 00:00:32,600 Speaker 1: Believe everyone has a story to tell, not only about 9 00:00:32,600 --> 00:00:34,760 Speaker 1: the peaks, but also the valleys they've been through to 10 00:00:34,800 --> 00:00:36,120 Speaker 1: get them to where they are today. 11 00:00:36,640 --> 00:00:39,120 Speaker 2: Each week, we invite a guests to tell us their story, 12 00:00:39,200 --> 00:00:41,600 Speaker 2: to share with us the lessons they've learned that shaped 13 00:00:41,600 --> 00:00:43,519 Speaker 2: who they are and what they're doing to pay it 14 00:00:43,600 --> 00:00:44,880 Speaker 2: forward and give back. 15 00:00:45,520 --> 00:00:47,520 Speaker 1: Our mission with this show is to dig deep into 16 00:00:47,520 --> 00:00:49,840 Speaker 1: our guest's journey so that we can celebrate the hope 17 00:00:49,880 --> 00:00:51,920 Speaker 1: and inspiration their story has to offer. 18 00:00:52,159 --> 00:00:54,840 Speaker 2: We are thrilled you're joining us again. 19 00:00:55,360 --> 00:00:56,720 Speaker 1: Welcome to the Good Stuff. 20 00:00:57,760 --> 00:01:01,280 Speaker 2: Today, we're joined by our very close friend and brother, 21 00:01:01,520 --> 00:01:03,720 Speaker 2: Michael Kurnell. We have wanted to have Mike on the 22 00:01:03,720 --> 00:01:07,440 Speaker 2: podcast since day one, no doubt, but making it happen 23 00:01:07,480 --> 00:01:10,040 Speaker 2: hasn't been as easy as just scheduling an interview. 24 00:01:10,640 --> 00:01:13,000 Speaker 1: Reason being he's in a big fight right now, a 25 00:01:13,040 --> 00:01:17,119 Speaker 1: fight for his life, and he is battling this marine 26 00:01:17,120 --> 00:01:19,880 Speaker 1: brother of mine was diagnosed with stage four colon cancer 27 00:01:19,920 --> 00:01:23,880 Speaker 1: almost three years ago, which has now spread to his liver, lungs, 28 00:01:24,040 --> 00:01:27,920 Speaker 1: lymph nodes, and stomach wall. He just told it was 29 00:01:27,920 --> 00:01:33,080 Speaker 1: inoperable and incurable and life expectancy was short. But today 30 00:01:33,120 --> 00:01:35,720 Speaker 1: he is here with us, very much alive. He is 31 00:01:35,760 --> 00:01:39,480 Speaker 1: truly an inspiration and the epitome of a warrior. This 32 00:01:39,520 --> 00:01:42,800 Speaker 1: isn't an episode about being sick. It's very much an 33 00:01:42,880 --> 00:01:47,000 Speaker 1: episode about truly living. We are better people for Mike's 34 00:01:47,000 --> 00:01:49,920 Speaker 1: presence in our lives, and we are so grateful that 35 00:01:50,000 --> 00:01:51,800 Speaker 1: he is here with us and able to share his 36 00:01:51,880 --> 00:01:52,520 Speaker 1: story with you. 37 00:01:53,320 --> 00:01:56,600 Speaker 2: This was truly an amazing conversation with Michael, and we 38 00:01:56,680 --> 00:01:59,440 Speaker 2: wanted the episode to just jump right into a story 39 00:01:59,520 --> 00:02:02,000 Speaker 2: about the time time we all traveled to Ireland together. 40 00:02:02,200 --> 00:02:02,920 Speaker 2: So here we go. 41 00:02:03,360 --> 00:02:09,280 Speaker 3: Enjoy I loved Ireland. It's such a good time there, 42 00:02:09,560 --> 00:02:10,360 Speaker 3: such a good time. 43 00:02:10,919 --> 00:02:12,840 Speaker 1: Think good, Sharon Gurlsby. 44 00:02:13,880 --> 00:02:14,800 Speaker 2: We're going to get into that. 45 00:02:14,880 --> 00:02:18,959 Speaker 4: But they wouldn't let you pour. You do not the 46 00:02:19,080 --> 00:02:22,760 Speaker 4: yank pull a fucking pine, like you don't tell him no. 47 00:02:23,840 --> 00:02:27,000 Speaker 2: So the backstory on that. Real quick, we were in 48 00:02:27,120 --> 00:02:31,400 Speaker 2: Ireland with Gabby and Michael Carnell his first trip over 49 00:02:31,480 --> 00:02:34,160 Speaker 2: the Pond to the Emerald Isle, and we were in 50 00:02:34,200 --> 00:02:37,000 Speaker 2: the beautiful village of Kinsale, which we've talked about on 51 00:02:37,040 --> 00:02:39,919 Speaker 2: this show before. When we had Danny Manning on Carney 52 00:02:39,919 --> 00:02:41,840 Speaker 2: has this thing. What's your thing about pouring a pine? 53 00:02:41,880 --> 00:02:43,480 Speaker 4: It just it just it started. 54 00:02:43,520 --> 00:02:46,320 Speaker 3: When I graduated high school, my father took me to 55 00:02:46,400 --> 00:02:49,320 Speaker 3: New York to go and watch the Red Sox and 56 00:02:49,400 --> 00:02:52,800 Speaker 3: Yankees play at old Yankee statey before they tore it down. 57 00:02:53,520 --> 00:02:55,920 Speaker 3: I don't know, maybe he just felt like, look, I 58 00:02:55,960 --> 00:02:58,679 Speaker 3: can't really get you into the everyba, but let's see 59 00:02:58,680 --> 00:02:59,840 Speaker 3: what we could do right. 60 00:03:00,680 --> 00:03:01,359 Speaker 4: And there was this. 61 00:03:01,680 --> 00:03:04,440 Speaker 3: Back called Tommy Makom's Irish Pavilion. Tommy Makam is a 62 00:03:04,480 --> 00:03:07,240 Speaker 3: famous Irish singer. So my dad walks up to like 63 00:03:07,240 --> 00:03:08,760 Speaker 3: the guy at the door. He's like, hey, look, you 64 00:03:08,760 --> 00:03:10,240 Speaker 3: know I'm gonna take my son and real quick, he's 65 00:03:10,240 --> 00:03:11,120 Speaker 3: got to use the bathroom. 66 00:03:11,160 --> 00:03:13,480 Speaker 4: We're just here for his graduation. Guy's like, I don't care. 67 00:03:13,400 --> 00:03:16,519 Speaker 3: Whatever, Lets me and I go have a beer with 68 00:03:16,520 --> 00:03:18,160 Speaker 3: my dad at a bar for the first time, and 69 00:03:18,200 --> 00:03:19,520 Speaker 3: I was like, this is pretty cool. You know. 70 00:03:19,600 --> 00:03:21,200 Speaker 4: I'm like drinking butt heavy whatever. 71 00:03:21,360 --> 00:03:23,680 Speaker 3: I didn't care, trying to stand in the background so 72 00:03:23,760 --> 00:03:26,400 Speaker 3: nobody can see me. But the next day we wake up, 73 00:03:26,400 --> 00:03:28,520 Speaker 3: when we go back, he's like, I just want to 74 00:03:28,520 --> 00:03:31,280 Speaker 3: try and get a picture. So we walked behind the 75 00:03:31,320 --> 00:03:32,960 Speaker 3: bar and just talked to the box and he was 76 00:03:33,000 --> 00:03:35,880 Speaker 3: straight off the boat too, like a shameless o'lardi or whatever. 77 00:03:36,560 --> 00:03:38,640 Speaker 3: I mean, he was talking to hell's how you doing. 78 00:03:39,200 --> 00:03:41,480 Speaker 3: My dad talked to him and he's like he looks around. 79 00:03:41,600 --> 00:03:44,160 Speaker 3: He's like, give me are some went behind the bod 80 00:03:44,240 --> 00:03:47,880 Speaker 3: and let me hold the bottle of Jamison portoglass or somebody. 81 00:03:47,880 --> 00:03:49,560 Speaker 3: And then that's just kind of how it started and 82 00:03:49,560 --> 00:03:52,360 Speaker 3: then became this thing of whenever I travel, I try 83 00:03:52,400 --> 00:03:55,360 Speaker 3: to let them let me go behind the bond or pining. 84 00:03:55,920 --> 00:03:57,840 Speaker 3: Nine times out of ten they don't care. When we 85 00:03:57,840 --> 00:04:01,280 Speaker 3: were there, it was just right post COVID, so they 86 00:04:01,320 --> 00:04:04,240 Speaker 3: were like most of the guys like I don't care. Yeah, 87 00:04:04,360 --> 00:04:07,280 Speaker 3: you know, because the first place was a trumpt I 88 00:04:07,320 --> 00:04:09,040 Speaker 3: went on so that they had like where we had 89 00:04:09,080 --> 00:04:11,200 Speaker 3: breakfast at. But then there was like a bar that 90 00:04:11,320 --> 00:04:14,440 Speaker 3: was out on like the first tea right there, Gaby, 91 00:04:14,560 --> 00:04:15,320 Speaker 3: noone walking around. 92 00:04:15,320 --> 00:04:15,760 Speaker 4: We stopped. 93 00:04:15,880 --> 00:04:17,599 Speaker 3: We just figured we'll grab some of drink or whatever, 94 00:04:17,640 --> 00:04:21,160 Speaker 3: and there was nobody in there, and I just asked again. 95 00:04:21,240 --> 00:04:24,080 Speaker 3: He was like another little sixteen seventeen year old famous 96 00:04:24,080 --> 00:04:26,840 Speaker 3: old Larry just in there and he's like, ah, I'm 97 00:04:26,880 --> 00:04:30,599 Speaker 3: not really supposed to do this, but sure, go ahead, 98 00:04:29,720 --> 00:04:33,800 Speaker 3: started poring pints and then it was everyby on Ireland 99 00:04:33,880 --> 00:04:35,920 Speaker 3: like I'm gonna pour pint as many times as i can. 100 00:04:36,040 --> 00:04:37,360 Speaker 3: So so then. 101 00:04:37,279 --> 00:04:39,200 Speaker 2: We get to can Sale, which we know a lot 102 00:04:39,200 --> 00:04:41,560 Speaker 2: of people there, and now you're family to everyone and 103 00:04:41,600 --> 00:04:44,040 Speaker 2: can Sail. This amazing village in Ireland that we love 104 00:04:44,120 --> 00:04:44,760 Speaker 2: so much. 105 00:04:44,720 --> 00:04:47,200 Speaker 3: Was the White Something there was the White House, the 106 00:04:47,240 --> 00:04:50,039 Speaker 3: White House, the Frowley is the White House great place. 107 00:04:50,120 --> 00:04:53,040 Speaker 2: So they had a little special reception with Irish veterans 108 00:04:53,080 --> 00:04:55,520 Speaker 2: there in their back room and then Mike's like, hey, 109 00:04:55,520 --> 00:04:57,400 Speaker 2: I'm gonna go, I'm gonna go pour some pints and 110 00:04:57,440 --> 00:04:59,719 Speaker 2: so he leaves. Well, he comes back a little while 111 00:04:59,760 --> 00:05:02,280 Speaker 2: later and he's like, yeah, they wouldn't let me next door. 112 00:05:03,600 --> 00:05:06,159 Speaker 3: You can't come back here, no way, there's nobody come 113 00:05:06,200 --> 00:05:08,200 Speaker 3: back here and pour pints and I'm all right, my bad. 114 00:05:08,360 --> 00:05:08,680 Speaker 4: Sorry. 115 00:05:08,760 --> 00:05:10,640 Speaker 2: Well, what they didn't know is that we were with 116 00:05:10,720 --> 00:05:14,760 Speaker 2: the great Sharon Crosby, one of the greatest humans on earth. 117 00:05:14,800 --> 00:05:18,960 Speaker 2: And Sharon immediately stands up and says, nope, come with me, 118 00:05:19,760 --> 00:05:21,159 Speaker 2: and so next thing I know, they're gone. 119 00:05:21,160 --> 00:05:24,520 Speaker 1: Fort not exactly how she said either, she said it 120 00:05:24,640 --> 00:05:25,960 Speaker 1: was a lot more colorful. 121 00:05:25,600 --> 00:05:29,920 Speaker 3: Than there's a few fom you're not gonna tell the 122 00:05:30,000 --> 00:05:32,239 Speaker 3: Stephan Yank and he's not gonna pour a pint behind 123 00:05:32,240 --> 00:05:33,880 Speaker 3: the bar, just the way she did it to him, 124 00:05:33,920 --> 00:05:37,200 Speaker 3: like you fucking not telling him he's not pouring a pipe. 125 00:05:37,760 --> 00:05:39,560 Speaker 3: And then she's like, you know what, as a matter 126 00:05:39,600 --> 00:05:41,479 Speaker 3: of fact, I'm going next door. Will you make sure 127 00:05:41,480 --> 00:05:43,720 Speaker 3: he finishes poorn his pint? Michael, when you're done with 128 00:05:43,800 --> 00:05:45,840 Speaker 3: a point, you come next door to me. I walk 129 00:05:45,880 --> 00:05:48,719 Speaker 3: all they and there's Sharon and like four women and 130 00:05:48,760 --> 00:05:51,760 Speaker 3: they just absolutely loved me, and they just like threw 131 00:05:51,839 --> 00:05:54,840 Speaker 3: me behind the bar and just said it born points. 132 00:05:54,880 --> 00:05:56,600 Speaker 3: And then the next day she sent me a message 133 00:05:56,680 --> 00:05:59,159 Speaker 3: on Facebook. She's like, you're good to go, and she 134 00:05:59,360 --> 00:06:03,679 Speaker 3: listened like fteen different like they all know you're coming 135 00:06:03,640 --> 00:06:04,760 Speaker 3: and just drop my name. 136 00:06:05,000 --> 00:06:06,279 Speaker 4: I was like, I love you. 137 00:06:07,160 --> 00:06:09,039 Speaker 2: The next thing i know, we're still sitting at the 138 00:06:09,040 --> 00:06:11,000 Speaker 2: White House. Gabby looked at me at one point she's like, 139 00:06:11,080 --> 00:06:13,680 Speaker 2: is he good. I'm like, oh, he's with Sharon. He's fine. 140 00:06:13,839 --> 00:06:15,280 Speaker 1: He may to Scotland. 141 00:06:16,920 --> 00:06:18,240 Speaker 4: Those women were having fun with me. 142 00:06:18,279 --> 00:06:21,440 Speaker 2: They're on the train to Dublin. But no. But next 143 00:06:21,480 --> 00:06:23,680 Speaker 2: thing we know, we're getting this picture of this big 144 00:06:23,720 --> 00:06:27,800 Speaker 2: American plaque with Carnie and like five Irish women, you know, 145 00:06:27,960 --> 00:06:29,080 Speaker 2: flank on either side. 146 00:06:29,520 --> 00:06:32,839 Speaker 3: My belt buck will like tucked in and everything. One 147 00:06:32,839 --> 00:06:34,600 Speaker 3: of our friends, Ryan James, made fun of when he 148 00:06:34,640 --> 00:06:36,679 Speaker 3: saw that picture. He's like, would you just graduate boot camp? 149 00:06:43,240 --> 00:06:45,279 Speaker 2: Great times? Great times in Ireland. 150 00:06:45,560 --> 00:06:46,920 Speaker 3: It was an absolute blouse. I mean it was a 151 00:06:47,000 --> 00:06:48,760 Speaker 3: dream come true. I mean that was always one of 152 00:06:48,800 --> 00:06:51,880 Speaker 3: those as a kid. I mean, my mom hasn't even 153 00:06:51,880 --> 00:06:53,440 Speaker 3: been and she's always wanted to go, you know, and 154 00:06:53,480 --> 00:06:56,839 Speaker 3: I'm like, look go, I'm like, especially now she's just 155 00:06:56,880 --> 00:06:57,800 Speaker 3: tired and everything else. 156 00:06:57,880 --> 00:07:01,000 Speaker 4: But back then, like move and it was all COVID. 157 00:07:01,040 --> 00:07:03,679 Speaker 3: She was all like worry and she had heart disease 158 00:07:03,800 --> 00:07:06,599 Speaker 3: and cancer and everything else. I mean, it wasn't like 159 00:07:06,640 --> 00:07:09,840 Speaker 3: the greatest time for her to be doing traveling. But 160 00:07:11,200 --> 00:07:13,440 Speaker 3: now they're retiring again for the second time in the 161 00:07:13,520 --> 00:07:17,400 Speaker 3: move to Hiltonhead, so they're more up to doing more 162 00:07:17,440 --> 00:07:19,720 Speaker 3: traveling and getting now, which is really good for them 163 00:07:19,760 --> 00:07:20,280 Speaker 3: so well. 164 00:07:20,560 --> 00:07:22,840 Speaker 2: And part of the reason we decided to take that 165 00:07:22,920 --> 00:07:25,560 Speaker 2: trip and thank you Jake for making that happen, was 166 00:07:25,600 --> 00:07:28,960 Speaker 2: that we went to you about three years ago almost 167 00:07:28,960 --> 00:07:31,840 Speaker 2: and said, what's your bucket list? And you know we're 168 00:07:31,880 --> 00:07:36,960 Speaker 2: here sitting today in your office at your home. How 169 00:07:36,960 --> 00:07:37,920 Speaker 2: are you feeling today? 170 00:07:38,520 --> 00:07:41,520 Speaker 3: I look at in two ways, you know, physically every 171 00:07:41,600 --> 00:07:43,640 Speaker 3: day is it's it's a battle, you know. I mean, 172 00:07:43,680 --> 00:07:46,640 Speaker 3: it's it is what it is when you get diagnosed 173 00:07:46,640 --> 00:07:50,400 Speaker 3: with stage four cancer that it doesn't matter what it 174 00:07:50,440 --> 00:07:52,440 Speaker 3: is though, whether it's your stomach with it, your feet 175 00:07:52,480 --> 00:07:55,160 Speaker 3: with it's your arm. I mean, it's it's cold outside now, 176 00:07:55,200 --> 00:07:57,720 Speaker 3: so that the medicine I have makes my bones really cold. 177 00:07:57,880 --> 00:07:59,960 Speaker 3: The wrapping my hands and fingers is a thousand times 178 00:08:00,120 --> 00:08:01,840 Speaker 3: was worse than it's been. I knew it was gonna 179 00:08:01,840 --> 00:08:04,520 Speaker 3: get like to that with the winter coming up, and 180 00:08:04,560 --> 00:08:08,400 Speaker 3: it makes walking, you know, difficult. I gotta usually cane 181 00:08:08,440 --> 00:08:10,800 Speaker 3: half the time, or I'm grabbing the kids like get 182 00:08:10,840 --> 00:08:15,280 Speaker 3: me here, hold on on my falling over. Mentally, I'm 183 00:08:15,280 --> 00:08:17,040 Speaker 3: blessed to be able to wake up every single day, 184 00:08:17,120 --> 00:08:19,960 Speaker 3: you know, I mean I realized that we're all living 185 00:08:20,000 --> 00:08:20,600 Speaker 3: in the bar or time. 186 00:08:20,600 --> 00:08:21,440 Speaker 4: I think you said that before. 187 00:08:21,440 --> 00:08:23,040 Speaker 3: We're all living in the ball of time, and sometimes 188 00:08:23,080 --> 00:08:24,880 Speaker 3: you look at the hourglass and something. You know, maybe 189 00:08:24,880 --> 00:08:27,120 Speaker 3: my sin's is a bit less than everybody else's. But 190 00:08:27,960 --> 00:08:29,520 Speaker 3: I'm happy that I got to wake up today. And 191 00:08:29,640 --> 00:08:31,680 Speaker 3: like I tell people when they're like, I'm having a 192 00:08:31,720 --> 00:08:33,040 Speaker 3: rough morning or whatever, I'm. 193 00:08:33,000 --> 00:08:34,680 Speaker 4: Like, dude, you woke up today. 194 00:08:34,760 --> 00:08:36,960 Speaker 3: The devil's already pissed off it you're so don't worry 195 00:08:36,960 --> 00:08:38,800 Speaker 3: about it, right, you already tagged one thing for the day. 196 00:08:38,880 --> 00:08:39,480 Speaker 4: Just keep going. 197 00:08:39,760 --> 00:08:42,360 Speaker 3: That's kind of how I mentally, even in the morning, 198 00:08:42,400 --> 00:08:44,680 Speaker 3: tell myself I do it, Just get up and then 199 00:08:45,720 --> 00:08:47,640 Speaker 3: make myself get up and get going for the day. 200 00:08:47,720 --> 00:08:51,800 Speaker 3: So you know, it's fifty to fifty physically okay today 201 00:08:51,800 --> 00:08:53,960 Speaker 3: and mentally yeah, I'm squared on. 202 00:08:54,120 --> 00:08:56,040 Speaker 4: So yeah for the most part. 203 00:08:56,080 --> 00:08:57,800 Speaker 3: You know, to put glasses on and then you'll blur 204 00:08:57,840 --> 00:08:58,840 Speaker 3: and I can't think anymore. 205 00:09:00,120 --> 00:09:03,280 Speaker 1: You just wrapped up your one hundred and thirtieth round 206 00:09:03,320 --> 00:09:06,319 Speaker 1: a chemo why only one thirty? 207 00:09:06,679 --> 00:09:07,959 Speaker 4: Yeah, I know you. 208 00:09:07,960 --> 00:09:09,920 Speaker 3: That's a funny question people ask some time, like, oh, 209 00:09:09,920 --> 00:09:11,319 Speaker 3: so was that your last one honeymoon? 210 00:09:11,400 --> 00:09:13,280 Speaker 4: You have to go? I'm like, no, I have no idea, 211 00:09:14,080 --> 00:09:14,280 Speaker 4: you know. 212 00:09:14,520 --> 00:09:17,920 Speaker 3: I'm like when they when they tell you inoperable and curable, 213 00:09:17,960 --> 00:09:19,679 Speaker 3: you keep going. And you know, people are like, oh, 214 00:09:19,920 --> 00:09:22,400 Speaker 3: chemo so bad. I had to do two rounds of chemo. 215 00:09:22,480 --> 00:09:28,200 Speaker 3: I'm like, don't keep in the room because we through tongue. 216 00:09:28,440 --> 00:09:29,920 Speaker 3: At the same time, I'm like, I've been through one 217 00:09:29,960 --> 00:09:31,920 Speaker 3: hundred and thirty rounds of chemo and it's been one 218 00:09:32,000 --> 00:09:35,880 Speaker 3: hundred and thirty different feelings every time. So once I 219 00:09:36,040 --> 00:09:38,559 Speaker 3: was like, I've been through this like twice or three times. 220 00:09:39,320 --> 00:09:41,520 Speaker 4: I get it. It sucked, it does I go. 221 00:09:41,600 --> 00:09:44,160 Speaker 3: But you know, you get to the extent that I'm 222 00:09:44,160 --> 00:09:46,360 Speaker 3: at now, and you know, my body at a couple 223 00:09:46,360 --> 00:09:48,280 Speaker 3: of way times starts to deteriorate, right, I mean, there's 224 00:09:48,480 --> 00:09:52,400 Speaker 3: so much you can take this before you know your 225 00:09:52,440 --> 00:09:54,560 Speaker 3: body breaks ound. Like I said, the neurapathy and all that, 226 00:09:54,600 --> 00:09:57,160 Speaker 3: but it is what it is. Like if I could 227 00:09:57,200 --> 00:10:00,360 Speaker 3: do one thirty one and they say you're done, let's 228 00:10:00,400 --> 00:10:02,160 Speaker 3: do it. If they tell me I got to do 229 00:10:02,200 --> 00:10:04,280 Speaker 3: you two hundred and fifty before I get finished. All right, 230 00:10:04,280 --> 00:10:06,000 Speaker 3: well let's go for two fifty. You know, I'm not 231 00:10:06,000 --> 00:10:08,320 Speaker 3: trying to break any chemo records, that's for sure. 232 00:10:10,559 --> 00:10:12,160 Speaker 1: Well, as long as you get to keep wearing those 233 00:10:12,160 --> 00:10:13,440 Speaker 1: Grandpa sweaters like that. 234 00:10:13,400 --> 00:10:16,240 Speaker 4: Dude, thank you? When do you talk about grandpas sweater? 235 00:10:16,520 --> 00:10:17,280 Speaker 4: This thing is one. 236 00:10:17,320 --> 00:10:19,280 Speaker 3: We're good to go because money, I could wear this 237 00:10:19,360 --> 00:10:21,880 Speaker 3: out and probably what the hell you want to. 238 00:10:21,840 --> 00:10:23,600 Speaker 2: Do, certainly in a pub in Ireland. 239 00:10:23,679 --> 00:10:25,000 Speaker 4: Yeah, I definitely we. 240 00:10:24,920 --> 00:10:27,440 Speaker 2: Have wanted to have you on the Good Stuff since 241 00:10:27,600 --> 00:10:29,640 Speaker 2: day one. I mean you were literally one of the 242 00:10:29,640 --> 00:10:31,520 Speaker 2: first people we put on our list of people that 243 00:10:31,559 --> 00:10:35,400 Speaker 2: we wanted to have on this show, mostly because of 244 00:10:35,440 --> 00:10:37,680 Speaker 2: that mindset that you just talked about. You know, you 245 00:10:37,679 --> 00:10:41,120 Speaker 2: don't want to break any records, but not to glance 246 00:10:41,240 --> 00:10:43,160 Speaker 2: over the weight of the fact that you've had one 247 00:10:43,240 --> 00:10:49,439 Speaker 2: hundred and thirty rounds of chemo, but your mindset is unbelievable. 248 00:10:50,480 --> 00:10:53,760 Speaker 3: It's hard because just like anybody, you can have a 249 00:10:53,760 --> 00:10:56,199 Speaker 3: good day in a bad day, right in the mindset 250 00:10:56,240 --> 00:10:57,440 Speaker 3: of trying to say. 251 00:10:58,840 --> 00:11:00,360 Speaker 4: Positive all time. 252 00:11:01,920 --> 00:11:03,640 Speaker 3: One of the things they first told us when I 253 00:11:03,679 --> 00:11:05,520 Speaker 3: got diagnosed in and they give this like big book 254 00:11:05,559 --> 00:11:09,640 Speaker 3: of like this cancer book, like the avc's dictionary whatever. 255 00:11:10,520 --> 00:11:12,000 Speaker 3: And this has been a few times since then. My 256 00:11:12,040 --> 00:11:13,559 Speaker 3: wife felt like, where's that book? Were you go back 257 00:11:13,600 --> 00:11:15,080 Speaker 3: and find it because there was something in there that 258 00:11:15,160 --> 00:11:15,720 Speaker 3: was important. 259 00:11:15,760 --> 00:11:16,000 Speaker 4: Right. 260 00:11:16,679 --> 00:11:18,280 Speaker 3: But one of the things they tell you, like at 261 00:11:18,280 --> 00:11:20,520 Speaker 3: the beginning, is like you got to get rid of negatiory. Yeah, 262 00:11:20,559 --> 00:11:23,800 Speaker 3: get rid of toxicity. Theeasings are not good for somebody 263 00:11:23,840 --> 00:11:25,760 Speaker 3: who has cancer. You don't need stress in your life. 264 00:11:25,760 --> 00:11:29,240 Speaker 3: I'm like, well that's everybody, right, I mean, who needs 265 00:11:29,240 --> 00:11:31,480 Speaker 3: any that kind of stuff in their life. So it 266 00:11:31,640 --> 00:11:34,920 Speaker 3: just became this thing of trying to figure out between 267 00:11:35,280 --> 00:11:37,240 Speaker 3: my wife and I in the beginning, because when I 268 00:11:37,280 --> 00:11:39,720 Speaker 3: found out at first was a culture shock. 269 00:11:39,800 --> 00:11:43,959 Speaker 4: It was a what are we gonna do? Like we 270 00:11:44,280 --> 00:11:45,600 Speaker 4: didn't prep for this, you know. 271 00:11:45,840 --> 00:11:48,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, I was doing great at work and the kids 272 00:11:48,240 --> 00:11:52,200 Speaker 3: are good and everybody's healthy except for me apparently. But 273 00:11:52,240 --> 00:11:53,880 Speaker 3: even when they came and they said you have cancer, 274 00:11:53,920 --> 00:11:55,760 Speaker 3: I was like, all right, well cool, everybody gets cancer, 275 00:11:56,720 --> 00:11:59,520 Speaker 3: like what kind? And they were like stage four. It's 276 00:11:59,600 --> 00:12:01,120 Speaker 3: like oh, so we went right to the end and 277 00:12:01,160 --> 00:12:03,480 Speaker 3: then like stage four being like, oh is a bee? 278 00:12:03,679 --> 00:12:06,319 Speaker 3: I didn't even know, I thought it was just numbers. 279 00:12:06,360 --> 00:12:10,880 Speaker 3: I'm like, so the bee is what like bad? I 280 00:12:11,040 --> 00:12:13,920 Speaker 3: just remember sitting with with Gabby, my wife, a couple 281 00:12:14,000 --> 00:12:16,240 Speaker 3: of days later on the on the bed, reading through 282 00:12:16,240 --> 00:12:18,480 Speaker 3: the book, and just like I was still trying to 283 00:12:18,480 --> 00:12:21,959 Speaker 3: wrack everything in my head because I'm a problem solver. 284 00:12:22,200 --> 00:12:24,520 Speaker 3: That's just what I do. If there's an issue, I 285 00:12:24,559 --> 00:12:26,520 Speaker 3: figure it out. And I attacked it. I go after 286 00:12:26,559 --> 00:12:31,320 Speaker 3: and solved the problems for everybody. And I couldn't figured 287 00:12:31,320 --> 00:12:33,040 Speaker 3: this out. I could have wrapped my head around it. 288 00:12:33,240 --> 00:12:35,320 Speaker 3: I was like, what am I going to do? And 289 00:12:35,360 --> 00:12:37,880 Speaker 3: the best thing that happened to me, outside of having 290 00:12:37,920 --> 00:12:40,400 Speaker 3: Gabby trying to confidence all the time, was I had 291 00:12:40,400 --> 00:12:42,360 Speaker 3: a friend from work who called me up and said, 292 00:12:43,040 --> 00:12:44,920 Speaker 3: I heard about your diagnosis. I want to give you 293 00:12:45,000 --> 00:12:46,480 Speaker 3: a few days to go ahead and think about it, 294 00:12:46,760 --> 00:12:49,200 Speaker 3: but let me tell you a story real quick. And 295 00:12:49,200 --> 00:12:52,040 Speaker 3: he said, my mom had exactly what you have. And 296 00:12:52,080 --> 00:12:54,280 Speaker 3: He's like, and all should do is eat water, burger 297 00:12:54,400 --> 00:12:58,440 Speaker 3: and drink large day coachs every day. And I could 298 00:12:58,440 --> 00:13:00,080 Speaker 3: tell you exactly I was. I mean, we were in 299 00:13:00,120 --> 00:13:02,480 Speaker 3: the old house. I was in the kitchen. I know 300 00:13:02,559 --> 00:13:04,760 Speaker 3: exactly where's because they stopped once he told me that, 301 00:13:05,480 --> 00:13:06,880 Speaker 3: and he was like, and I want to let you 302 00:13:06,920 --> 00:13:07,120 Speaker 3: know that. 303 00:13:07,120 --> 00:13:08,199 Speaker 4: Sho's still here today. 304 00:13:08,480 --> 00:13:10,360 Speaker 3: I was like, all right, so this can be done 305 00:13:10,559 --> 00:13:15,200 Speaker 3: because doctors don't give you that this could be not 306 00:13:15,280 --> 00:13:19,520 Speaker 3: a problem. Michael, yeah, stays four beat cancer, going cancers, 307 00:13:19,679 --> 00:13:21,200 Speaker 3: fantastatized to your liver. 308 00:13:21,600 --> 00:13:22,200 Speaker 4: Not a problem. 309 00:13:22,200 --> 00:13:25,880 Speaker 3: This is gonna be issuing And they're like, so, sir, yeah, 310 00:13:26,440 --> 00:13:28,679 Speaker 3: in opera and cariable for a reason. Na, that's what 311 00:13:28,720 --> 00:13:31,640 Speaker 3: it means. And I remember when the doctor told me. Originally, 312 00:13:31,720 --> 00:13:33,280 Speaker 3: like I slammed the chair on the floor and I 313 00:13:33,320 --> 00:13:35,320 Speaker 3: was like, we're gonna to rewrite that because that doesn't 314 00:13:35,360 --> 00:13:38,280 Speaker 3: work for me. But getting that news from that friend 315 00:13:38,440 --> 00:13:40,319 Speaker 3: just kind of put the positive attitude in my mind, like, 316 00:13:40,320 --> 00:13:43,000 Speaker 3: all right, somebody's done this before, somebody's beat this before, 317 00:13:43,320 --> 00:13:46,439 Speaker 3: and if I'm gonna be negative, it's. 318 00:13:46,280 --> 00:13:48,120 Speaker 4: Not going to be good. You know, it's going to 319 00:13:48,320 --> 00:13:49,319 Speaker 4: just beat me down. 320 00:13:49,360 --> 00:13:51,320 Speaker 3: I've been into the rooms before and seen the cancer 321 00:13:51,360 --> 00:13:55,680 Speaker 3: patients that just look like they're like they're never coming back, 322 00:13:56,080 --> 00:13:58,480 Speaker 3: like that's it, that's their last appointment, and they're gonna 323 00:13:58,480 --> 00:14:00,280 Speaker 3: go to hospice whenever they're gonna go home. And they're 324 00:14:00,280 --> 00:14:02,080 Speaker 3: going to pass out that night and not wake up 325 00:14:02,080 --> 00:14:04,720 Speaker 3: the next day. And you know, I walk in the nurses, 326 00:14:04,920 --> 00:14:07,080 Speaker 3: They're like, outside of the two times I lost my 327 00:14:07,120 --> 00:14:09,080 Speaker 3: mind in there, they they're like, we love you. You know. 328 00:14:09,360 --> 00:14:11,520 Speaker 3: I walk into the iPad, I'm laughing half the time. 329 00:14:11,559 --> 00:14:14,800 Speaker 3: I'm cracking jokes Eve. When I don't feel good. It's like, 330 00:14:14,840 --> 00:14:16,200 Speaker 3: if you know I'm not gonna make it through life, 331 00:14:16,280 --> 00:14:18,839 Speaker 3: we don't keep it light. That's just Marines too, right. 332 00:14:18,880 --> 00:14:20,720 Speaker 3: I Mean, we bust on each other so much, but 333 00:14:20,760 --> 00:14:23,000 Speaker 3: it's like it's out of absolute love. So if we 334 00:14:23,000 --> 00:14:26,680 Speaker 3: don't keep that positive attitude of mindset and the one 335 00:14:26,720 --> 00:14:29,600 Speaker 3: step mentality, you know, and keep moving forward because. 336 00:14:29,360 --> 00:14:32,200 Speaker 4: It doesn't matter what what a Marcus throw. 337 00:14:32,280 --> 00:14:34,200 Speaker 3: I watched this interview within the other day and he's like, 338 00:14:34,280 --> 00:14:35,880 Speaker 3: ninety percent of what was in the movies not what 339 00:14:36,000 --> 00:14:38,320 Speaker 3: really happened. And he tells the stories like I was 340 00:14:38,360 --> 00:14:41,480 Speaker 3: on a rock for like a day, crawling from the 341 00:14:41,480 --> 00:14:44,600 Speaker 3: Taliban they do where it was they were shooting you know, 342 00:14:44,760 --> 00:14:47,480 Speaker 3: RPGs at me, and they were throwing rockets and grenades 343 00:14:47,480 --> 00:14:48,440 Speaker 3: and everyone else down on me. 344 00:14:48,480 --> 00:14:50,280 Speaker 4: And he's like, I just kept moving. 345 00:14:50,440 --> 00:14:51,880 Speaker 3: I just kept moving He's like, I knew there was 346 00:14:51,920 --> 00:14:53,120 Speaker 3: this lake in front of me, and I need to 347 00:14:53,120 --> 00:14:55,120 Speaker 3: get some water, so I just kept moving. It's like, 348 00:14:55,440 --> 00:14:57,160 Speaker 3: it's just one of those mentalities in your head. If 349 00:14:57,160 --> 00:15:00,880 Speaker 3: you just keep that one step forward mentality, if you 350 00:15:00,880 --> 00:15:02,120 Speaker 3: could take it, and no matter if you. 351 00:15:02,040 --> 00:15:03,680 Speaker 4: Get a crawl and you get to walk, you're gonna run. 352 00:15:03,800 --> 00:15:06,600 Speaker 3: However you make it, you make it, and then strind 353 00:15:06,640 --> 00:15:08,840 Speaker 3: yourself with a good support system, people like you guys, 354 00:15:08,840 --> 00:15:11,360 Speaker 3: people like the Aboard, people like the Turners, people have 355 00:15:11,360 --> 00:15:13,600 Speaker 3: all these non profits that we do work with her. 356 00:15:14,400 --> 00:15:17,000 Speaker 3: As you said, you shrond yourself with good people, by default, 357 00:15:17,120 --> 00:15:20,560 Speaker 3: you become a better person. So all these great people 358 00:15:20,640 --> 00:15:22,360 Speaker 3: have taught me so many things that have changed my 359 00:15:22,440 --> 00:15:25,720 Speaker 3: mentality over years to try and be paused. 360 00:15:25,720 --> 00:15:27,560 Speaker 4: And plus I got three kids. 361 00:15:27,360 --> 00:15:30,560 Speaker 3: And I'm getting older, I'm mature and trying to teach 362 00:15:30,600 --> 00:15:32,240 Speaker 3: them the right things life and be positive. 363 00:15:32,280 --> 00:15:38,960 Speaker 2: So your mindset and how hard you've battled over the 364 00:15:39,000 --> 00:15:43,800 Speaker 2: past three years, I mean, I'm speechless. I really don't 365 00:15:43,840 --> 00:15:49,320 Speaker 2: have the words to how consistent you've been with this mindset. 366 00:15:50,640 --> 00:15:53,600 Speaker 2: No days off from your deciding to live. 367 00:15:53,920 --> 00:15:56,440 Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, it's a Navy seal thing. When no 368 00:15:56,520 --> 00:15:58,880 Speaker 3: days off, right, that was something hitty to day. I 369 00:15:58,960 --> 00:16:01,600 Speaker 3: was like, I say, somebody, yeah, I'll be like, it's 370 00:16:01,720 --> 00:16:03,560 Speaker 3: been three years. 371 00:16:04,200 --> 00:16:06,920 Speaker 4: I'm like, I don't get a break it. 372 00:16:06,960 --> 00:16:09,760 Speaker 3: Everybody gets a Friday night, Saturday, Sunday. Like I don't 373 00:16:09,760 --> 00:16:11,960 Speaker 3: get that. I get to go to bed sometimes in 374 00:16:12,000 --> 00:16:14,440 Speaker 3: a great mood and wake up absolutely miserable and be 375 00:16:14,520 --> 00:16:18,239 Speaker 3: miserable all weekend. But then it's so horrible the summertime, 376 00:16:18,360 --> 00:16:21,520 Speaker 3: right because with this medicine stuff. I'm like, I went 377 00:16:21,560 --> 00:16:25,840 Speaker 3: to my oldest daughters soccer game and walking from the 378 00:16:25,880 --> 00:16:29,840 Speaker 3: car to the field to set up a ten with 379 00:16:29,960 --> 00:16:32,600 Speaker 3: a lows bucket that has a fan that blows ice 380 00:16:33,400 --> 00:16:36,280 Speaker 3: to watching her game at one hundred and ten degrees whatever, 381 00:16:36,400 --> 00:16:38,200 Speaker 3: and then packing it all up and get back in 382 00:16:38,280 --> 00:16:39,680 Speaker 3: the car. And I looked in my awaye and I go, 383 00:16:39,760 --> 00:16:42,440 Speaker 3: I'm done, and she's just looking like it's eleven o'clock 384 00:16:42,480 --> 00:16:44,360 Speaker 3: when I'm like, I'm done for the day. Like I 385 00:16:44,400 --> 00:16:47,480 Speaker 3: don't make any of the plans we're going home. I'm 386 00:16:47,480 --> 00:16:49,760 Speaker 3: gonna sit on that couch and I'm not moving, like 387 00:16:49,840 --> 00:16:51,520 Speaker 3: I just collapsed. 388 00:16:51,560 --> 00:16:53,680 Speaker 4: It's just it gets you. 389 00:16:53,960 --> 00:16:58,600 Speaker 3: And I'm still learning that with my limits as it's 390 00:16:58,640 --> 00:17:00,880 Speaker 3: becoming more and more difficult to do things. But I'm 391 00:17:00,920 --> 00:17:02,920 Speaker 3: also that stubborn marine in my head, like I don't 392 00:17:02,960 --> 00:17:03,400 Speaker 3: care what. 393 00:17:04,440 --> 00:17:08,000 Speaker 4: This is telling me. I'm going to make it. I mean, 394 00:17:08,080 --> 00:17:08,600 Speaker 4: I had a goal. 395 00:17:08,640 --> 00:17:11,840 Speaker 3: I always wanted to run the Boston Marathon, and a 396 00:17:11,840 --> 00:17:14,159 Speaker 3: couple months who I texted to of my cousins and 397 00:17:14,200 --> 00:17:16,720 Speaker 3: they both have done it, one of them on college nurse, 398 00:17:16,760 --> 00:17:18,800 Speaker 3: and I was like, hey, I just want to get 399 00:17:18,800 --> 00:17:21,520 Speaker 3: your opinion on this before I actually start thinking about it. 400 00:17:21,560 --> 00:17:22,760 Speaker 3: I go, I can't do the training right now because 401 00:17:22,760 --> 00:17:25,439 Speaker 3: it's too hot in texta cycle, but once the cools, 402 00:17:25,440 --> 00:17:27,280 Speaker 3: that should be good to go. I said, what do 403 00:17:27,320 --> 00:17:29,679 Speaker 3: you think about running the marathon? She was like absolutely not. 404 00:17:30,760 --> 00:17:32,880 Speaker 3: She was like if as my cousin, I would love 405 00:17:32,920 --> 00:17:34,560 Speaker 3: to see you come up here and run the marathon, 406 00:17:34,600 --> 00:17:36,160 Speaker 3: and if you do it, I'll be the first one 407 00:17:36,200 --> 00:17:37,840 Speaker 3: standing there on the sidelines cheering. 408 00:17:37,840 --> 00:17:38,080 Speaker 4: You want. 409 00:17:38,160 --> 00:17:42,680 Speaker 3: She's like as a patient, she's like, no, you probably 410 00:17:42,680 --> 00:17:46,080 Speaker 3: gonna make it a mile. She's like the dehydration all that. 411 00:17:46,320 --> 00:17:48,200 Speaker 3: She's like, you're just gonna be killing your body. And 412 00:17:48,240 --> 00:17:53,919 Speaker 3: I'm like, oh, okay, thanks for because she's like, no, 413 00:17:53,960 --> 00:17:55,400 Speaker 3: I want to see you do it. I was like, well, 414 00:17:55,440 --> 00:17:58,800 Speaker 3: you basically told me I can. And my other cousin's like, nah, 415 00:17:58,800 --> 00:18:01,760 Speaker 3: you could do it. He's brother. He's like, I definitely 416 00:18:01,760 --> 00:18:03,320 Speaker 3: believe you could do it. I'm like me too, right, 417 00:18:03,400 --> 00:18:05,320 Speaker 3: I could do it. And then I go for a 418 00:18:05,359 --> 00:18:09,119 Speaker 3: walk to the mailbox and like whoa, you know. 419 00:18:09,200 --> 00:18:11,239 Speaker 4: I come back and I'm like, you know what I mean, 420 00:18:11,320 --> 00:18:12,919 Speaker 4: that marathon might be a little bit harder. 421 00:18:13,000 --> 00:18:15,760 Speaker 3: I mean, I might do five hundred and walks the 422 00:18:15,840 --> 00:18:18,920 Speaker 3: nail to watch before we can get doing the marathon. 423 00:18:19,080 --> 00:18:21,960 Speaker 2: So that's one of the things I remember. It carry 424 00:18:21,960 --> 00:18:24,320 Speaker 2: the Load, which is our our annual Memorial Day walk, 425 00:18:24,400 --> 00:18:27,760 Speaker 2: what we all do together. You were out there midnight march. 426 00:18:27,840 --> 00:18:30,640 Speaker 1: I think it's important to say that it's its own nonprofit, 427 00:18:30,720 --> 00:18:34,840 Speaker 1: that we once Tris Beneficiarias and the Depth Train Foundation, 428 00:18:34,960 --> 00:18:37,840 Speaker 1: a bunch of other really great organizations, and that you know, 429 00:18:37,920 --> 00:18:40,680 Speaker 1: we've been doing this together for I mean, I think 430 00:18:40,680 --> 00:18:41,640 Speaker 1: since we've known each other. 431 00:18:41,920 --> 00:18:46,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, over a decade, yeah, over a decade years years 432 00:18:46,119 --> 00:18:47,000 Speaker 3: this year twelve years. 433 00:18:47,040 --> 00:18:49,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, No, I mean just the midnight march. You were 434 00:18:49,320 --> 00:18:51,919 Speaker 2: out there with your cane and big old chain around 435 00:18:51,920 --> 00:18:52,280 Speaker 2: your neck. 436 00:18:53,000 --> 00:18:54,800 Speaker 1: Got to get the swhite equity in and that was 437 00:18:54,880 --> 00:18:57,480 Speaker 1: actually the first one we did silent. I'm sure you 438 00:18:57,480 --> 00:19:00,320 Speaker 1: remember before we started, and I spoke and then asked 439 00:19:00,359 --> 00:19:01,240 Speaker 1: David to say, if you. 440 00:19:01,280 --> 00:19:04,520 Speaker 4: Were yelled at people and told them shut up and 441 00:19:04,600 --> 00:19:06,480 Speaker 4: we're not talking, I was like. 442 00:19:07,160 --> 00:19:09,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, no, I was angry. Yeah, I was angry. I 443 00:19:10,000 --> 00:19:13,560 Speaker 1: mean it was, uh, it's zero dark, so yeah, it 444 00:19:13,680 --> 00:19:16,520 Speaker 1: was yeah. But you know, and I needed and I 445 00:19:16,560 --> 00:19:18,760 Speaker 1: was honest about it. I said, I need this too. 446 00:19:19,320 --> 00:19:21,920 Speaker 1: I need to heal too. And I think that we 447 00:19:22,000 --> 00:19:25,280 Speaker 1: owe it to them, those that were honoring to just 448 00:19:25,320 --> 00:19:27,600 Speaker 1: shut your souper cooler while we're doing this. We're not 449 00:19:27,600 --> 00:19:31,720 Speaker 1: playing music, we're not We're just gonna walk. We're gonna 450 00:19:31,880 --> 00:19:34,720 Speaker 1: start together, we're gonna finish together. And if you have 451 00:19:34,760 --> 00:19:36,479 Speaker 1: a problem with it, and I do remember saying that 452 00:19:36,520 --> 00:19:38,720 Speaker 1: you can walk right out the same gate you walked 453 00:19:38,720 --> 00:19:41,639 Speaker 1: in and nobody left. I mean there's like two hundred 454 00:19:41,680 --> 00:19:44,200 Speaker 1: people there. It was all tears and everything, and it 455 00:19:44,240 --> 00:19:49,119 Speaker 1: was that was a spiritual moment man, that hour and 456 00:19:49,200 --> 00:19:51,800 Speaker 1: a half, for hour forty whatever it took, because it 457 00:19:51,840 --> 00:19:54,680 Speaker 1: wasn't you know, because one lap is what seven seven 458 00:19:54,720 --> 00:19:56,960 Speaker 1: miles I think, or something like that. And then and 459 00:19:57,040 --> 00:19:59,439 Speaker 1: I you know what I really distinctly remember about that 460 00:19:59,520 --> 00:20:01,480 Speaker 1: walk was the dog tags. 461 00:20:01,760 --> 00:20:03,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, Terry Burgess, thank you. 462 00:20:04,160 --> 00:20:06,800 Speaker 1: Terry wears on his pack the whole time, and all 463 00:20:06,800 --> 00:20:10,720 Speaker 1: you heard was the clink, clink, clink, because he wears 464 00:20:11,160 --> 00:20:14,879 Speaker 1: all the dog tags of Brian's unit that that they lost, 465 00:20:14,920 --> 00:20:17,919 Speaker 1: not just Brian's. And it was the clinking was like 466 00:20:18,320 --> 00:20:21,679 Speaker 1: it was almost like marching the cadence like we do 467 00:20:21,720 --> 00:20:24,399 Speaker 1: in the Marines. It was just that clink clink, and 468 00:20:24,480 --> 00:20:27,399 Speaker 1: I just remember thinking like it was just different. Then, 469 00:20:27,560 --> 00:20:29,160 Speaker 1: you know, at one point I did have to run 470 00:20:29,240 --> 00:20:31,200 Speaker 1: up to the front and tell him like, hey, got 471 00:20:31,240 --> 00:20:32,640 Speaker 1: slow it down a little bit. We got a couple 472 00:20:32,640 --> 00:20:35,520 Speaker 1: of stragglers. And then I remember the first time I did, 473 00:20:35,600 --> 00:20:38,440 Speaker 1: and he looked at me, and the guy was like, seriously, 474 00:20:39,960 --> 00:20:40,600 Speaker 1: I know what. 475 00:20:40,600 --> 00:20:41,840 Speaker 4: We have to slow you know? 476 00:20:42,160 --> 00:20:46,639 Speaker 3: It was it was different than the typic character. Look right, yeah, 477 00:20:46,720 --> 00:20:48,919 Speaker 3: you know It's different than I'm gonna get out there. 478 00:20:48,920 --> 00:20:50,800 Speaker 3: I'm a march around with everybody. I'm gonna see his hand, 479 00:20:50,800 --> 00:20:53,520 Speaker 3: I'm gonna take a thousand photos kissing babies the whole 480 00:20:53,600 --> 00:20:56,080 Speaker 3: nine yards. Right, do you see so and so? Do 481 00:20:56,080 --> 00:20:58,119 Speaker 3: you see so and so. Yeah, yeah, you're so excited 482 00:20:58,119 --> 00:21:01,159 Speaker 3: for that day to go see every buddy and to 483 00:21:01,160 --> 00:21:04,120 Speaker 3: be a part of the event that's obviously bigger than ourselves. 484 00:21:04,960 --> 00:21:06,720 Speaker 4: And I always. 485 00:21:06,480 --> 00:21:08,760 Speaker 3: Genuinely look forward to it, even if I'm out there 486 00:21:08,800 --> 00:21:10,880 Speaker 3: at night and I'm walking around and it's one hundred grees, 487 00:21:10,920 --> 00:21:15,480 Speaker 3: I said, I still love it. The quiet thing was different, 488 00:21:15,840 --> 00:21:19,080 Speaker 3: and it gave you that moment, like to really take 489 00:21:19,119 --> 00:21:20,560 Speaker 3: that time to reflect. 490 00:21:20,480 --> 00:21:22,120 Speaker 4: Like why are we really here? 491 00:21:22,320 --> 00:21:22,480 Speaker 1: Right? 492 00:21:22,600 --> 00:21:23,920 Speaker 4: Like we all know why we're really here. 493 00:21:24,320 --> 00:21:28,359 Speaker 3: And I don't think it really hit me until on 494 00:21:28,480 --> 00:21:31,720 Speaker 3: the way back. My buddy, uh John, who one of 495 00:21:31,760 --> 00:21:34,560 Speaker 3: my old neighbors. He had a couple of friends at 496 00:21:34,560 --> 00:21:37,160 Speaker 3: that period that we were walking. Just that time frame, 497 00:21:37,720 --> 00:21:40,200 Speaker 3: there was like six signs in there with his friends 498 00:21:40,280 --> 00:21:41,440 Speaker 3: were all on those signs. 499 00:21:41,480 --> 00:21:44,159 Speaker 4: So like he sees the first one, he stops. 500 00:21:43,760 --> 00:21:45,840 Speaker 3: He puts the hand on like he'd already done, you know, 501 00:21:45,880 --> 00:21:48,919 Speaker 3: like eighteen miles that day, but he stayed to do 502 00:21:49,000 --> 00:21:51,320 Speaker 3: it at night, and seeing him touch the last one 503 00:21:51,359 --> 00:21:55,120 Speaker 3: and like how emotional he was about it that I. 504 00:21:55,160 --> 00:21:57,680 Speaker 4: Was like, all right, you got it. But like I 505 00:21:57,760 --> 00:22:01,119 Speaker 4: hope this quiet part and. 506 00:22:01,160 --> 00:22:05,520 Speaker 3: This reflection gave you that time to really heal from 507 00:22:05,600 --> 00:22:08,719 Speaker 3: what you're still, you know, having a hard time with 508 00:22:08,800 --> 00:22:11,760 Speaker 3: I mean we also do right, sorry cursing, but that's 509 00:22:11,800 --> 00:22:12,520 Speaker 3: who I am. 510 00:22:12,800 --> 00:22:15,040 Speaker 2: You've dropped like twenty f bombs up to this point. 511 00:22:15,040 --> 00:22:18,040 Speaker 3: You're good, good? Then, all right, this is the good 512 00:22:18,119 --> 00:22:21,639 Speaker 3: guy the podcasting. We're not gonna put the thing at 513 00:22:21,680 --> 00:22:23,760 Speaker 3: the bottom with an explicit language. 514 00:22:24,480 --> 00:22:26,760 Speaker 1: Well, so the good news about that is is that 515 00:22:27,040 --> 00:22:29,280 Speaker 1: it with a lot of our guests like okay, well 516 00:22:29,840 --> 00:22:31,800 Speaker 1: you know, what can we do or can't we do? 517 00:22:31,880 --> 00:22:34,240 Speaker 1: Them like talk as if you want your children to 518 00:22:34,280 --> 00:22:39,879 Speaker 1: hear it? So for you problem at all? Yeah, there's 519 00:22:40,080 --> 00:22:42,680 Speaker 1: nothing they could hear where they were like, well, dad. 520 00:22:42,680 --> 00:22:45,240 Speaker 4: I tried to get better. I really have. 521 00:22:45,600 --> 00:22:48,159 Speaker 3: But you know, the words and Irish, I know, but 522 00:22:48,280 --> 00:22:50,840 Speaker 3: that is part of my language. I'm like, I don't 523 00:22:50,960 --> 00:22:51,879 Speaker 3: use oz, but I have. 524 00:22:52,200 --> 00:22:55,720 Speaker 4: I used the F word like it's like tomorrow, Like 525 00:22:56,160 --> 00:22:56,840 Speaker 4: there's no tomorrow. 526 00:22:57,080 --> 00:22:59,320 Speaker 2: So let's take it back to Boston. Tell us about 527 00:22:59,320 --> 00:23:01,720 Speaker 2: your upbringing. Was what made you even want to become 528 00:23:01,760 --> 00:23:03,200 Speaker 2: a United States Marine? 529 00:23:03,359 --> 00:23:06,280 Speaker 3: It was weird growing up in Boston. My mom is 530 00:23:06,320 --> 00:23:08,080 Speaker 3: one of six, my dad's one of six. You know, 531 00:23:08,160 --> 00:23:11,320 Speaker 3: I have a huge Irish Catholic family, you know, and 532 00:23:11,480 --> 00:23:14,320 Speaker 3: out of six of them, you know, on both sides, 533 00:23:14,359 --> 00:23:19,159 Speaker 3: I think only one had three kids. The rest were 534 00:23:19,160 --> 00:23:23,840 Speaker 3: all like four, five, six, So I have massive amount 535 00:23:23,840 --> 00:23:25,880 Speaker 3: of cousins, right, I mean, like the family text thread, 536 00:23:26,000 --> 00:23:28,919 Speaker 3: sometimes I'm like, I got to mute it because I'm like, 537 00:23:28,960 --> 00:23:30,640 Speaker 3: there's this the one hundred people on here. 538 00:23:30,880 --> 00:23:33,320 Speaker 4: I don't care. I know the Patriots are lose in 539 00:23:33,400 --> 00:23:33,720 Speaker 4: right now. 540 00:23:33,800 --> 00:23:33,960 Speaker 1: Right. 541 00:23:34,960 --> 00:23:37,520 Speaker 3: I had great aunts and uncles. I really did because 542 00:23:37,520 --> 00:23:41,080 Speaker 3: of the age. Both of my parents actually were the 543 00:23:41,119 --> 00:23:43,360 Speaker 3: second or the third oldest in their families, so they 544 00:23:43,359 --> 00:23:47,000 Speaker 3: were older then, like even and I have aunts and 545 00:23:47,040 --> 00:23:48,920 Speaker 3: uncles who are only like ten or fifteen years older 546 00:23:48,920 --> 00:23:51,679 Speaker 3: than me, so you know, they were kind of my 547 00:23:51,760 --> 00:23:53,760 Speaker 3: brothers and sisters or whatever. When I was a kid, 548 00:23:53,760 --> 00:23:55,760 Speaker 3: they were my babysitters. They you know, it took me 549 00:23:55,800 --> 00:23:57,600 Speaker 3: to the beach, they did all that kind of stuff. 550 00:23:58,400 --> 00:24:01,919 Speaker 3: So I had a good, decent upbringing. And then we 551 00:24:01,960 --> 00:24:04,960 Speaker 3: got to like middle school age, my parents were divorced 552 00:24:05,000 --> 00:24:08,760 Speaker 3: and became a broken home and just one of those 553 00:24:08,800 --> 00:24:11,119 Speaker 3: things that bouncing back and forth between houses is be 554 00:24:11,320 --> 00:24:14,399 Speaker 3: pre cell phones and text messaging and all that stuff. 555 00:24:14,440 --> 00:24:16,080 Speaker 4: So I was the oldest, So I was. 556 00:24:16,080 --> 00:24:18,720 Speaker 3: One communicating the messages all the time. Nobody was happy. 557 00:24:18,760 --> 00:24:21,680 Speaker 3: People do whatever message they got, so it never turned 558 00:24:21,680 --> 00:24:24,679 Speaker 3: out the way they wanted. But I remember a conversation 559 00:24:24,760 --> 00:24:26,639 Speaker 3: with my father one day driving down the road, and 560 00:24:26,680 --> 00:24:28,359 Speaker 3: he just like he asked me what I wanted to 561 00:24:28,359 --> 00:24:30,080 Speaker 3: be when I got older. I was still a kid, 562 00:24:30,080 --> 00:24:32,359 Speaker 3: like a professional hockey player playing for the Brumin's just 563 00:24:32,400 --> 00:24:35,000 Speaker 3: like everybody else from playing for the Red Sox whatever, right, 564 00:24:35,600 --> 00:24:37,920 Speaker 3: which dinnis hilarious City says I. You know, I thought 565 00:24:37,960 --> 00:24:40,040 Speaker 3: I was playing for the Boston Red Sox. It didn't happen. 566 00:24:40,080 --> 00:24:42,040 Speaker 3: You wear a helmet sometimes you just suck. 567 00:24:41,840 --> 00:24:42,320 Speaker 4: It up, right. 568 00:24:42,359 --> 00:24:44,200 Speaker 3: That's just part of life, and it's the way it works, 569 00:24:44,720 --> 00:24:46,280 Speaker 3: and all our dreams work out the way. 570 00:24:46,119 --> 00:24:48,879 Speaker 4: We want to. But I went to a good high school. 571 00:24:49,200 --> 00:24:53,359 Speaker 3: I felt that's where I started to learn who I 572 00:24:53,640 --> 00:24:57,760 Speaker 3: was as a person. Because being a kid from a 573 00:24:57,800 --> 00:25:00,159 Speaker 3: broken home and having to deal with these conversations all 574 00:25:00,160 --> 00:25:02,360 Speaker 3: the time, and the arguments and the fighting and the divorce. 575 00:25:03,600 --> 00:25:06,440 Speaker 4: I was a very quiet kid. You guys know me. 576 00:25:07,280 --> 00:25:11,960 Speaker 3: You know I've never not been quiet. I'm center for attention, loud, vocal. 577 00:25:12,000 --> 00:25:14,840 Speaker 3: I got something to say. I was just a quiet kid, 578 00:25:14,880 --> 00:25:17,080 Speaker 3: and I'm sure I had to do a lot of 579 00:25:17,119 --> 00:25:19,480 Speaker 3: the stuff around us that made us just shut down 580 00:25:19,520 --> 00:25:22,679 Speaker 3: in life. And my dad asked, He was like, like, 581 00:25:22,720 --> 00:25:23,960 Speaker 3: what do you want to do in life? Where do 582 00:25:23,960 --> 00:25:25,240 Speaker 3: you want to be? And I was like, I'm going 583 00:25:25,320 --> 00:25:27,679 Speaker 3: to be in a big city, but it's not going 584 00:25:27,760 --> 00:25:29,919 Speaker 3: to be here. And I don't know what I'm doing. 585 00:25:29,960 --> 00:25:32,520 Speaker 4: If I'm not playing hockey, but I'm gonna be living 586 00:25:32,560 --> 00:25:35,879 Speaker 4: in a big city, I'm being a power building. I 587 00:25:35,880 --> 00:25:37,080 Speaker 4: didn't know what I was going to do. I had 588 00:25:37,080 --> 00:25:37,520 Speaker 4: no dreams. 589 00:25:37,560 --> 00:25:38,920 Speaker 3: It wasn't like I was like, oh, I want to be, 590 00:25:39,119 --> 00:25:40,400 Speaker 3: you know, an accountant. 591 00:25:40,119 --> 00:25:40,639 Speaker 4: None. 592 00:25:40,760 --> 00:25:40,960 Speaker 3: Zero. 593 00:25:41,160 --> 00:25:42,679 Speaker 4: To this day, I'm still like I don't even know 594 00:25:42,680 --> 00:25:43,199 Speaker 4: what i want to be. 595 00:25:43,280 --> 00:25:43,440 Speaker 2: Right. 596 00:25:44,680 --> 00:25:48,720 Speaker 3: So I graduated high school on a team soccer team 597 00:25:48,760 --> 00:25:52,520 Speaker 3: that my soccer coach was a drill sergeant the army, 598 00:25:52,880 --> 00:25:58,080 Speaker 3: and hated that guy for four years. Hated him. He 599 00:25:58,200 --> 00:26:01,560 Speaker 3: came out first day of try out. He had all 600 00:26:01,640 --> 00:26:04,639 Speaker 3: the stuff that the evenrinker uses for marketing. He was 601 00:26:04,720 --> 00:26:06,080 Speaker 3: like paying his week to sleep. 602 00:26:05,880 --> 00:26:08,280 Speaker 4: In the body, blah blah blah blah. 603 00:26:08,000 --> 00:26:10,480 Speaker 3: All this stuff and no matter what we do, you 604 00:26:10,520 --> 00:26:13,720 Speaker 3: guys are going to be the most athletic and fitteam 605 00:26:13,840 --> 00:26:16,080 Speaker 3: out here. No team will run you off the field ever. 606 00:26:16,280 --> 00:26:20,360 Speaker 3: If they do, we'll be running. And I'd never been 607 00:26:20,400 --> 00:26:22,440 Speaker 3: in shape like that. I mean I could probably run 608 00:26:22,760 --> 00:26:25,000 Speaker 3: three miles in fifteen minutes at that point in time. 609 00:26:25,040 --> 00:26:27,600 Speaker 4: I mean it was just we were so that's all 610 00:26:27,600 --> 00:26:28,359 Speaker 4: we did was run. 611 00:26:28,480 --> 00:26:31,200 Speaker 3: We ran from school to practice instead of taking cause 612 00:26:31,600 --> 00:26:34,919 Speaker 3: the seniors could take a car to practice. Well, our 613 00:26:35,000 --> 00:26:38,040 Speaker 3: senior year, we left the cars in school. We were like, no, 614 00:26:38,359 --> 00:26:40,359 Speaker 3: this is how we doing it for four years, is 615 00:26:40,400 --> 00:26:40,800 Speaker 3: how we're going. 616 00:26:40,760 --> 00:26:41,320 Speaker 4: To keep doing it. 617 00:26:41,320 --> 00:26:44,160 Speaker 3: We're going to run to school. We got this team 618 00:26:44,200 --> 00:26:46,720 Speaker 3: behind us. And we knew our freshman year too, as 619 00:26:46,720 --> 00:26:49,840 Speaker 3: a kid who goes man. We're seniors, you know, there's 620 00:26:49,920 --> 00:26:54,679 Speaker 3: nobody stopping us. And we went the night before training 621 00:26:54,720 --> 00:26:57,800 Speaker 3: camp started a bus to bus. Seniors and some of 622 00:26:57,800 --> 00:26:59,560 Speaker 3: the juniors that have been on the team before were like, 623 00:26:59,640 --> 00:27:03,520 Speaker 3: let's see something different. Let's sleep at the field before 624 00:27:03,960 --> 00:27:06,520 Speaker 3: double sessions start. Some of the guys was like, why, 625 00:27:07,240 --> 00:27:09,040 Speaker 3: you know what, This sounds like the dumbest idea, But 626 00:27:09,920 --> 00:27:12,280 Speaker 3: the coach is gonna show up and we're already there, 627 00:27:12,760 --> 00:27:15,320 Speaker 3: so we're already a step ahead of him before the 628 00:27:15,440 --> 00:27:17,959 Speaker 3: season starts, even though this guy watched this play all 629 00:27:18,000 --> 00:27:22,960 Speaker 3: summer and everything else. But I left school and I 630 00:27:23,000 --> 00:27:28,520 Speaker 3: went to college, and I got the party card of 631 00:27:28,680 --> 00:27:31,679 Speaker 3: college down pretty good, four point zero. It was to 632 00:27:31,680 --> 00:27:34,840 Speaker 3: go in to class part that I struggled with my 633 00:27:34,960 --> 00:27:37,560 Speaker 3: first semester. I went to class. Second semester. I half 634 00:27:37,560 --> 00:27:40,040 Speaker 3: went to class third semester. I think I went to 635 00:27:40,080 --> 00:27:43,760 Speaker 3: class to like I'm signing me, like I'm dropping this class, 636 00:27:44,560 --> 00:27:47,080 Speaker 3: and I knew I was gonna be doing something different, 637 00:27:47,200 --> 00:27:49,200 Speaker 3: so I think I went and saw my mom for 638 00:27:49,400 --> 00:27:52,000 Speaker 3: Christmas that year, and when I came home, my dad 639 00:27:52,080 --> 00:27:54,760 Speaker 3: was like, hey, your report card came in the. 640 00:27:54,680 --> 00:27:56,720 Speaker 4: Mill and I was like really. 641 00:27:57,280 --> 00:27:59,600 Speaker 3: He's like, yeah, we're not gonna do that right now, 642 00:28:00,040 --> 00:28:01,920 Speaker 3: so we'll have this conversation tomorrow. And I was like, 643 00:28:01,960 --> 00:28:04,359 Speaker 3: all right, you know what I'm doing and he said, well, 644 00:28:04,359 --> 00:28:06,760 Speaker 3: I'm joining the military. And he was like it just 645 00:28:06,760 --> 00:28:09,280 Speaker 3: like floored him, Like you're not joining the military. I 646 00:28:09,359 --> 00:28:10,680 Speaker 3: was in the military. You're not supposed to be in 647 00:28:10,680 --> 00:28:12,600 Speaker 3: the military. You go to you go to schools to 648 00:28:12,600 --> 00:28:15,520 Speaker 3: be better than me. I'm like, it's not gonna work out. 649 00:28:15,520 --> 00:28:17,399 Speaker 3: I hadn't even seen the recruit yet, right, I'm just 650 00:28:17,400 --> 00:28:20,040 Speaker 3: telling him this. So like next day I'm down taking 651 00:28:20,040 --> 00:28:21,840 Speaker 3: the bus to go see the recruiter, walk and see 652 00:28:21,880 --> 00:28:24,879 Speaker 3: the RECRUI recruiter. I'm like, hey, everybody to join the 653 00:28:25,040 --> 00:28:28,600 Speaker 3: boot camp. He's like, awesome, we have as late entry 654 00:28:28,680 --> 00:28:32,120 Speaker 3: program used. It takes about a year. Bus a test, 655 00:28:32,200 --> 00:28:34,080 Speaker 3: you get a pass and everything else. And I was like, 656 00:28:34,880 --> 00:28:36,480 Speaker 3: you have to understand. I go, I gotta leaven. 657 00:28:36,359 --> 00:28:39,520 Speaker 4: Like two weeks. He was like, two weeks. I go. 658 00:28:39,640 --> 00:28:42,480 Speaker 3: Well, One, when my father finds out that I'm joining 659 00:28:42,480 --> 00:28:44,760 Speaker 3: the Marine Corps not the Army, he's gonna kill me, 660 00:28:45,280 --> 00:28:48,040 Speaker 3: all right. And it's because he wants me to go 661 00:28:48,040 --> 00:28:50,280 Speaker 3: to school and I don't want to go to school. 662 00:28:50,760 --> 00:28:51,040 Speaker 4: I go. 663 00:28:51,200 --> 00:28:53,800 Speaker 3: And number two, my twenty first birthdays in three weeks, 664 00:28:53,960 --> 00:28:56,400 Speaker 3: so you can't get me out of here before my 665 00:28:56,480 --> 00:29:00,840 Speaker 3: twenty first birthday. I'm gonna stay and then I'm gonna 666 00:29:00,840 --> 00:29:02,400 Speaker 3: go talk to like the army recruiter. He was like 667 00:29:02,400 --> 00:29:05,760 Speaker 3: all right, hold on. Second, he's like, well, you passed 668 00:29:05,760 --> 00:29:08,400 Speaker 3: the drug test. And I was like I think so, 669 00:29:10,080 --> 00:29:12,000 Speaker 3: and he's like okay, let's get that s great away. 670 00:29:12,080 --> 00:29:14,000 Speaker 3: Number one okay, let's get you past the drug test. 671 00:29:14,040 --> 00:29:16,360 Speaker 3: And went took a drug test to pass that took 672 00:29:16,360 --> 00:29:18,360 Speaker 3: the ASVAP. He's like, dude, you basically put your name 673 00:29:18,400 --> 00:29:20,280 Speaker 3: on the paper. That's it. That's all you basically get 674 00:29:20,280 --> 00:29:21,960 Speaker 3: it to do. I scored like a nine something or 675 00:29:22,000 --> 00:29:24,720 Speaker 3: whatever the score was. And he came back. He's like, 676 00:29:24,880 --> 00:29:26,760 Speaker 3: your score came in. You did great. He's like, what 677 00:29:26,880 --> 00:29:29,040 Speaker 3: do you dreams? Your goals you have about like being 678 00:29:29,080 --> 00:29:30,560 Speaker 3: the rinkle, what do you want to do. I was like, 679 00:29:30,600 --> 00:29:32,760 Speaker 3: I thought you guys just blew stuff up. He was like, oh, 680 00:29:32,800 --> 00:29:35,760 Speaker 3: three fifty one. I was like, I have no idea 681 00:29:35,800 --> 00:29:38,240 Speaker 3: what it was not realizing, Like the MS chart is 682 00:29:38,280 --> 00:29:42,640 Speaker 3: on the board behind me, right, with nine hundred jobs 683 00:29:42,680 --> 00:29:44,720 Speaker 3: that I could have been in your traffic controller, right, 684 00:29:45,120 --> 00:29:47,680 Speaker 3: I could have picked any job in the world to 685 00:29:47,800 --> 00:29:50,400 Speaker 3: teach me something to have a skill. When I get out, 686 00:29:50,600 --> 00:29:54,400 Speaker 3: no play with tetan arty X and frigging TNT and 687 00:29:54,440 --> 00:29:56,720 Speaker 3: everything else and learn how to play with dead cord 688 00:29:56,800 --> 00:29:59,400 Speaker 3: and rockets and missiles. And I was like, well, that, 689 00:29:59,600 --> 00:30:02,680 Speaker 3: I mean sounds like a lot more fun than guiding 690 00:30:02,760 --> 00:30:06,080 Speaker 3: planes in anyway. And then through the recruiter calls me 691 00:30:06,160 --> 00:30:09,360 Speaker 3: and he goes, you're still going to enjoy boot camp, right. 692 00:30:09,520 --> 00:30:11,800 Speaker 3: I was like, yeah, you gotta shoot out on Mondays? Right, 693 00:30:12,480 --> 00:30:13,040 Speaker 3: he goes yep. 694 00:30:13,480 --> 00:30:16,840 Speaker 4: So next Monday, He's liked because it was Monday night already, 695 00:30:17,640 --> 00:30:19,560 Speaker 4: and he goes, Nope, I'll be each house at four 696 00:30:19,560 --> 00:30:22,200 Speaker 4: o'clock in the morning. I'm like, oh, he's like that 697 00:30:22,240 --> 00:30:25,000 Speaker 4: could be a problem. Like, Nope, not a problem. He's like, 698 00:30:25,000 --> 00:30:26,520 Speaker 4: all right, to see you zero form. I good to go. 699 00:30:26,760 --> 00:30:29,680 Speaker 3: Haven't called my parents and I haven't told anybody that 700 00:30:29,840 --> 00:30:31,920 Speaker 3: I'm going to boot camp. 701 00:30:32,040 --> 00:30:33,479 Speaker 4: Get I'm even this far into it. 702 00:30:34,320 --> 00:30:36,240 Speaker 3: I call them all up and they're like, you're an idiot. 703 00:30:36,280 --> 00:30:38,160 Speaker 3: I can't believe you're doing this. You're so stupid. And 704 00:30:38,160 --> 00:30:41,480 Speaker 3: I was like, whatever, get in the car or the recruiter. 705 00:30:41,680 --> 00:30:45,440 Speaker 3: And that's when I actually got the best advice I 706 00:30:45,480 --> 00:30:48,960 Speaker 3: think I ever got. And this is the advice I 707 00:30:49,000 --> 00:30:51,160 Speaker 3: give every recruit that I ever meet that's going to 708 00:30:51,160 --> 00:30:56,000 Speaker 3: boot camp. Drill instructures are paid assholes. The minute you 709 00:30:56,040 --> 00:30:59,680 Speaker 3: get that in your head, you are going to be 710 00:30:59,680 --> 00:31:02,560 Speaker 3: good to you know. And it took me about a 711 00:31:02,600 --> 00:31:05,320 Speaker 3: week or two and I was like, all right, I 712 00:31:05,400 --> 00:31:07,760 Speaker 3: get it. I got the game. It's it's all mental. 713 00:31:08,320 --> 00:31:10,960 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, you never fast enough. You never quick enough 714 00:31:10,960 --> 00:31:13,600 Speaker 3: even if you are, somebody else isn't, So why rush. 715 00:31:13,920 --> 00:31:16,320 Speaker 3: Just get there as quick as you can, you know, 716 00:31:16,480 --> 00:31:19,080 Speaker 3: whether it's getting up in the morning, going to chow 717 00:31:19,800 --> 00:31:21,360 Speaker 3: I mean I've had chow er, I've sat down, They're 718 00:31:21,360 --> 00:31:23,200 Speaker 3: like everybody up. I'm like, I didn't even get a bite. 719 00:31:23,680 --> 00:31:26,240 Speaker 3: I'm like, gotta be kidding me. I'm like, I wasn't 720 00:31:26,280 --> 00:31:29,680 Speaker 3: like done, no rats or double rats running. I was 721 00:31:29,680 --> 00:31:30,840 Speaker 3: just I was in the back of the line because 722 00:31:30,840 --> 00:31:32,880 Speaker 3: it was a squad leader. And then somebody messed up. 723 00:31:32,960 --> 00:31:34,720 Speaker 3: So by the time I got to chance get my food, 724 00:31:35,200 --> 00:31:37,960 Speaker 3: I'm like literally taking a plastic sports trying to shove 725 00:31:38,040 --> 00:31:41,520 Speaker 3: down eggs, powdered eggs to the trash barrel. 726 00:31:41,960 --> 00:31:44,360 Speaker 1: Then God forbid you take a drink at your water 727 00:31:44,440 --> 00:31:45,040 Speaker 1: with one hand. 728 00:31:45,200 --> 00:31:49,440 Speaker 3: Oh no, man, you're I remember being at Paras Island 729 00:31:49,520 --> 00:31:51,960 Speaker 3: and we were we had pet one morning and it 730 00:31:52,040 --> 00:31:54,000 Speaker 3: hit me and I was like, this is what I'm 731 00:31:54,000 --> 00:31:56,200 Speaker 3: supposed to be doing. You know, at the time, all 732 00:31:56,240 --> 00:31:59,680 Speaker 3: reading was what you know, rifle training, drill, working out, 733 00:31:59,840 --> 00:32:02,560 Speaker 3: you know that kind of stuff. Nomenclature. You weren't you 734 00:32:02,560 --> 00:32:04,360 Speaker 3: weren't in the field day. 735 00:32:04,200 --> 00:32:08,280 Speaker 1: You weren't learning like you were doing basically treading marines. 736 00:32:08,400 --> 00:32:11,360 Speaker 3: But I knew there was just one day running around 737 00:32:11,480 --> 00:32:13,240 Speaker 3: the track out there for PT. 738 00:32:13,360 --> 00:32:15,280 Speaker 4: I just remember it's something to me. I go, this 739 00:32:15,320 --> 00:32:16,520 Speaker 4: is what I want to do. I love this. 740 00:32:16,640 --> 00:32:18,360 Speaker 3: I'm like, I get up and I'm working on im, Like, 741 00:32:18,400 --> 00:32:21,280 Speaker 3: I feel great. I wish I could still do it today. 742 00:32:21,320 --> 00:32:23,280 Speaker 3: I wish I could get up. Its still run here 743 00:32:23,800 --> 00:32:26,640 Speaker 3: and I hate running. Well, kid, wasn't one of those 744 00:32:26,640 --> 00:32:27,400 Speaker 3: things that like. 745 00:32:27,360 --> 00:32:29,400 Speaker 4: A lot of people are like, oh, it's horrible, it sucked. 746 00:32:29,440 --> 00:32:31,840 Speaker 3: I'm like, I didn't think it was that bad. I mean, yeah, 747 00:32:31,840 --> 00:32:34,800 Speaker 3: it sucked, but I knew I had thirteen weeks. Just 748 00:32:34,880 --> 00:32:36,840 Speaker 3: deal with it. It's all mental. I mean, the crucible 749 00:32:36,920 --> 00:32:39,160 Speaker 3: was the most difficult thing that you did the entire 750 00:32:39,200 --> 00:32:43,400 Speaker 3: time there. And getting your own instructor to come up 751 00:32:43,440 --> 00:32:45,520 Speaker 3: and shake your hand and hand to put an eglobe 752 00:32:45,520 --> 00:32:47,520 Speaker 3: and anchor in your hand is one of the most 753 00:32:48,080 --> 00:32:54,120 Speaker 3: just honorable achievements ever made in my life. Yeah, I'm like, 754 00:32:54,160 --> 00:32:56,560 Speaker 3: it did something that people were free to do well. 755 00:32:56,720 --> 00:33:00,200 Speaker 1: Very few yeah done, very few accomplished up. 756 00:33:00,360 --> 00:33:00,560 Speaker 3: Yeah. 757 00:33:00,560 --> 00:33:03,760 Speaker 1: I mean, did y'all do it post crucible or did 758 00:33:03,840 --> 00:33:04,440 Speaker 1: y'all do it? 759 00:33:04,520 --> 00:33:08,520 Speaker 3: We were like the third Crucible thirteen third phase they 760 00:33:08,520 --> 00:33:09,600 Speaker 3: had gone through the Crucible. 761 00:33:10,400 --> 00:33:12,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, but so did y'all do the e g A 762 00:33:12,920 --> 00:33:15,440 Speaker 1: the Warriors breakfast, the sending of the ego globe maker 763 00:33:16,040 --> 00:33:19,160 Speaker 1: post crucible or did y'all Okay, you did all? Yeah, 764 00:33:19,160 --> 00:33:20,000 Speaker 1: that's when we did it. 765 00:33:20,280 --> 00:33:21,800 Speaker 4: Why you are now? 766 00:33:22,040 --> 00:33:27,240 Speaker 1: No? No, no, no, I've heard yeah, simplatoons wait till graduation days, simpleton. 767 00:33:26,880 --> 00:33:29,560 Speaker 3: And I'm like, yeah, we came all all money, dirty 768 00:33:29,560 --> 00:33:31,600 Speaker 3: anything because it was pouring the entire time we were 769 00:33:31,600 --> 00:33:35,520 Speaker 3: there too, so we were all right, they planned it 770 00:33:35,560 --> 00:33:36,840 Speaker 3: on that right, we're gonna have this week? 771 00:33:38,200 --> 00:33:40,440 Speaker 1: Did it ain't rain and we ain't training? 772 00:33:40,560 --> 00:33:42,520 Speaker 2: The marine now control mother nature? 773 00:33:42,600 --> 00:33:43,560 Speaker 4: Yeah? 774 00:33:43,920 --> 00:33:49,560 Speaker 2: So how did that training physically, mentally, emotionally, How do 775 00:33:49,600 --> 00:33:52,080 Speaker 2: you feel like that's contributed to the battle that you're 776 00:33:52,120 --> 00:33:52,760 Speaker 2: in right now? 777 00:33:53,520 --> 00:33:55,400 Speaker 3: I think that being in the Marine Corps is giving 778 00:33:55,400 --> 00:33:58,000 Speaker 3: me everything that I have today. I wouldn't be who 779 00:33:58,000 --> 00:34:03,080 Speaker 3: I am without the Marine Corps, with the time that 780 00:34:03,120 --> 00:34:04,680 Speaker 3: I spend with the guys that I serve, with the 781 00:34:04,720 --> 00:34:06,520 Speaker 3: times that I've spent with the guys that I didn't 782 00:34:06,520 --> 00:34:08,719 Speaker 3: serve with you know, the people I've met outside of 783 00:34:08,719 --> 00:34:11,799 Speaker 3: the Marine Corps, the whole legacy of what the Marine 784 00:34:11,840 --> 00:34:14,960 Speaker 3: Corps is like, you can't mess out because there's so 785 00:34:15,000 --> 00:34:18,040 Speaker 3: many historical people that have gone before you that. I mean, 786 00:34:18,040 --> 00:34:20,000 Speaker 3: my first year in the Marine Corps, I was in Okinawa, 787 00:34:20,239 --> 00:34:22,319 Speaker 3: right and there was an incident in Okinawa where there 788 00:34:22,440 --> 00:34:26,000 Speaker 3: was a murder or something like that that had happened, 789 00:34:26,040 --> 00:34:30,200 Speaker 3: and we had this brief from the Marines that were there. 790 00:34:30,239 --> 00:34:33,160 Speaker 3: But then like the State Department came down and see 791 00:34:33,239 --> 00:34:35,879 Speaker 3: is the Japanese version of the State Department came down 792 00:34:35,880 --> 00:34:36,239 Speaker 3: and time. 793 00:34:36,160 --> 00:34:38,240 Speaker 4: To talk to us. We weren't they when it happened. 794 00:34:39,040 --> 00:34:40,759 Speaker 3: We got there like two weeks afters and they were 795 00:34:40,800 --> 00:34:45,040 Speaker 3: just like tension on the island is high. You can't 796 00:34:45,600 --> 00:34:48,880 Speaker 3: mess up. And you're like, well, a good thing. We 797 00:34:48,960 --> 00:34:50,839 Speaker 3: going for jungle warfare training. We're not gonna be sitting 798 00:34:50,840 --> 00:34:52,880 Speaker 3: out here at the bars and the strip clubs and 799 00:34:52,920 --> 00:34:53,799 Speaker 3: everything else all that long. 800 00:34:53,840 --> 00:34:55,200 Speaker 4: We're gonna be open in the woods, so we'll stay 801 00:34:55,200 --> 00:34:55,760 Speaker 4: out of trouble. 802 00:34:55,800 --> 00:34:58,560 Speaker 3: But it's just one of those things that I think 803 00:34:58,600 --> 00:35:00,960 Speaker 3: that mentality that I learned from the Marine Corps, which 804 00:35:01,040 --> 00:35:04,839 Speaker 3: is just this attack attack attack mentality has definitely been 805 00:35:04,840 --> 00:35:06,200 Speaker 3: one of the things that helped me when it came 806 00:35:06,239 --> 00:35:10,520 Speaker 3: to this fight that I have now, because trust me, 807 00:35:10,560 --> 00:35:12,400 Speaker 3: is twenty days when I wake up and I'm like, dude, 808 00:35:12,520 --> 00:35:15,600 Speaker 3: for this, I can't do this today, I'm like, I'm 809 00:35:15,680 --> 00:35:19,000 Speaker 3: just and I have to sit there and remind myself, 810 00:35:19,239 --> 00:35:22,280 Speaker 3: you know, the whole I watched a lot of videos 811 00:35:22,320 --> 00:35:25,120 Speaker 3: to get motivation, you know, and some of it is 812 00:35:25,160 --> 00:35:27,440 Speaker 3: you know, hey, you missed a thousands in the shuts 813 00:35:27,480 --> 00:35:29,000 Speaker 3: you don't take or you know, I need something like 814 00:35:29,000 --> 00:35:30,560 Speaker 3: that in the morning to get me to wake up, 815 00:35:30,680 --> 00:35:32,560 Speaker 3: or the picture I have appeared, you know, keep going. 816 00:35:32,400 --> 00:35:33,720 Speaker 4: Like it gets me up in the morning. 817 00:35:35,200 --> 00:35:37,000 Speaker 3: All right, here we go and then once them up, 818 00:35:37,160 --> 00:35:38,640 Speaker 3: you know, and this she never get in my head, right, 819 00:35:38,680 --> 00:35:41,360 Speaker 3: And then I think the Marine Corps mentality is always 820 00:35:41,400 --> 00:35:47,520 Speaker 3: going to be in any marine because we are who 821 00:35:47,560 --> 00:35:51,080 Speaker 3: we are for a reason. We're wired differently than everybody else. 822 00:35:51,880 --> 00:35:54,560 Speaker 3: And when people are like, oh, marine's ray holes and 823 00:35:54,560 --> 00:35:58,560 Speaker 3: blah blah, like, no, we're confident, we're cocky, we're self centered. 824 00:35:58,560 --> 00:36:00,799 Speaker 4: We know that we've owned it. You made fun of 825 00:36:00,840 --> 00:36:02,040 Speaker 4: us and told us to crayons. 826 00:36:02,080 --> 00:36:04,480 Speaker 3: We owned that and now you're mad at us that 827 00:36:04,520 --> 00:36:07,560 Speaker 3: we actually enjoy eating crayons to make you look like 828 00:36:07,560 --> 00:36:12,920 Speaker 3: an idiot. You don't understand. Marines are just built differently. 829 00:36:13,040 --> 00:36:17,879 Speaker 3: We always find a way. And even with my diagnosis 830 00:36:17,880 --> 00:36:20,800 Speaker 3: that I have right now, the doctor could say whatever 831 00:36:20,840 --> 00:36:23,560 Speaker 3: they want. I made a video of me last time 832 00:36:23,600 --> 00:36:25,200 Speaker 3: with endi interest and I'm like, hey, it doesn't matter 833 00:36:25,200 --> 00:36:25,560 Speaker 3: if they. 834 00:36:25,480 --> 00:36:30,120 Speaker 4: Say there's shrinkers or if there's growth. It is what 835 00:36:30,160 --> 00:36:30,480 Speaker 4: it is. 836 00:36:30,520 --> 00:36:32,279 Speaker 3: We'll figure it out and we'll keep moving in the 837 00:36:32,280 --> 00:36:34,200 Speaker 3: next direction. I'm like, it doesn't matter what they tell me. 838 00:36:34,239 --> 00:36:36,920 Speaker 3: They tell me that doctor told me once a couple 839 00:36:36,960 --> 00:36:39,640 Speaker 3: weeks ago, She's like, you've already exceeded what your life 840 00:36:39,760 --> 00:36:42,480 Speaker 3: expectancy was supposed to be. Like, I know, I told 841 00:36:42,480 --> 00:36:45,560 Speaker 3: you guys, you don't know me. So it's one of 842 00:36:45,560 --> 00:36:48,600 Speaker 3: those things. I just I just had this dog mentality 843 00:36:48,719 --> 00:36:50,200 Speaker 3: of not I'm not going to give up. 844 00:36:50,239 --> 00:36:51,279 Speaker 4: I mean, even in the days that. 845 00:36:53,120 --> 00:36:56,560 Speaker 3: Suck, you know, I just got to get up, Give 846 00:36:56,600 --> 00:36:58,520 Speaker 3: me some water, give me some sugar, you know, and 847 00:36:58,800 --> 00:37:00,239 Speaker 3: just like stayway with the sugar, might get me your 848 00:37:00,800 --> 00:37:03,640 Speaker 3: Panta whatever, mountain. 849 00:37:03,360 --> 00:37:15,120 Speaker 5: Dude, something, let's talk about Gabby Angel. 850 00:37:15,600 --> 00:37:17,200 Speaker 4: I wouldn't be here today without her. You want to 851 00:37:17,200 --> 00:37:18,080 Speaker 4: start getting me crying? 852 00:37:18,320 --> 00:37:20,640 Speaker 2: Man, I don't want to start getting you crying. 853 00:37:21,160 --> 00:37:25,040 Speaker 1: Okay, So here's the thing. Nobody's trying to get anybody 854 00:37:25,080 --> 00:37:25,720 Speaker 1: start crying. 855 00:37:25,800 --> 00:37:28,320 Speaker 4: Yeah no, I'm good today. 856 00:37:28,360 --> 00:37:31,760 Speaker 2: But what a support system you and your entire family, 857 00:37:31,840 --> 00:37:34,959 Speaker 2: like you have all five been battling and the rest 858 00:37:35,000 --> 00:37:37,880 Speaker 2: of us who call you know you're our brothers. 859 00:37:37,920 --> 00:37:41,279 Speaker 3: So it was hard, right, So is January twenty twenty one. 860 00:37:41,320 --> 00:37:42,760 Speaker 3: I go to the hospital and they tell me, I, 861 00:37:42,960 --> 00:37:43,359 Speaker 3: you know. 862 00:37:43,680 --> 00:37:45,640 Speaker 1: What led you to the hospital? Like the wait? So 863 00:37:45,880 --> 00:37:47,160 Speaker 1: what happened exactly the. 864 00:37:47,160 --> 00:37:52,520 Speaker 3: Whole twenty twenty COVID thing. I started having some pain 865 00:37:52,840 --> 00:37:55,000 Speaker 3: on my side, and there was a couple of times 866 00:37:55,000 --> 00:37:56,640 Speaker 3: I had blood in my stool, which is like red 867 00:37:56,680 --> 00:37:58,319 Speaker 3: flag you're supposed to be. But I was like, all right, 868 00:37:58,320 --> 00:37:59,840 Speaker 3: maybe I ate too much. 869 00:37:59,719 --> 00:38:03,200 Speaker 4: Food or you know whatever. It wasn't like a constant 870 00:38:03,200 --> 00:38:06,720 Speaker 4: thing right back, was certain. 871 00:38:06,800 --> 00:38:09,600 Speaker 3: I mean I attributed a lot of the problems I 872 00:38:09,640 --> 00:38:13,600 Speaker 3: was having to just stress getting older, not working out anymore, 873 00:38:13,760 --> 00:38:18,000 Speaker 3: not taking walks, blah blah blah. So there is a 874 00:38:18,080 --> 00:38:21,920 Speaker 3: place in Frisco that's called the float Spot because there 875 00:38:21,960 --> 00:38:23,680 Speaker 3: have been to a bit of like these huge ebsence 876 00:38:23,719 --> 00:38:26,840 Speaker 3: all tanks. Right, I sold Gabby On Saturday, I go, 877 00:38:27,640 --> 00:38:29,480 Speaker 3: I'm going to go do one of those float spots. 878 00:38:29,800 --> 00:38:33,120 Speaker 3: That should suck everything out of me. I should start 879 00:38:33,120 --> 00:38:36,160 Speaker 3: feeling better, hopefully by the time I get home. I 880 00:38:36,200 --> 00:38:37,719 Speaker 3: came back home and I was feeling worse. I go, 881 00:38:37,800 --> 00:38:39,840 Speaker 3: that's it. I go, I'm done. And I hate hospitals. 882 00:38:39,840 --> 00:38:42,080 Speaker 3: I just don't do doctors. I don't do hospitals. 883 00:38:42,120 --> 00:38:44,200 Speaker 4: I'm stubborn man. 884 00:38:44,360 --> 00:38:50,840 Speaker 3: Right, And I go in and you know, of course 885 00:38:50,880 --> 00:38:53,759 Speaker 3: it's due to COVID. So the doctor comes into the 886 00:38:53,800 --> 00:38:57,839 Speaker 3: room and he's got like a blue et outfit on 887 00:38:58,000 --> 00:39:01,040 Speaker 3: with a tube hanging behind him, right, Like. 888 00:39:01,000 --> 00:39:03,880 Speaker 1: I think it's important to tell the audience that it 889 00:39:03,920 --> 00:39:08,399 Speaker 1: wasn't an actual ETV. It was the people that were 890 00:39:08,440 --> 00:39:13,839 Speaker 1: wearing the bio hazard. Yes, yes, you're right, okay in front. 891 00:39:14,360 --> 00:39:17,120 Speaker 3: It's funny because like the doctor comes in all suited up, 892 00:39:17,440 --> 00:39:19,560 Speaker 3: the RN is sitting there, she's just got like a 893 00:39:19,600 --> 00:39:20,560 Speaker 3: paper mask. Right. 894 00:39:20,640 --> 00:39:24,480 Speaker 4: I'm like, you look at the tube and you're like, okay, 895 00:39:24,640 --> 00:39:25,239 Speaker 4: what's going on. 896 00:39:25,880 --> 00:39:28,719 Speaker 1: Somebody's not communicating with somebody, you know. 897 00:39:28,840 --> 00:39:29,839 Speaker 4: Something we don't know yet. 898 00:39:29,920 --> 00:39:33,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, So he just the meeting was like, your simptoms 899 00:39:33,239 --> 00:39:34,880 Speaker 3: are basically telling me you have COVID, but we'll do 900 00:39:34,920 --> 00:39:36,840 Speaker 3: a blood test. And I go, it's not COVID. He's like, 901 00:39:36,920 --> 00:39:38,600 Speaker 3: I'm pretty sure it is. And I'm like, I'm pretty 902 00:39:38,600 --> 00:39:42,280 Speaker 3: sure it's not. So because it was COVID. During that timeframe, 903 00:39:42,360 --> 00:39:45,040 Speaker 3: you couldn't leave the hospital. You were put in a 904 00:39:45,080 --> 00:39:48,200 Speaker 3: separate wing to the hospital. So I got wing in 905 00:39:48,200 --> 00:39:50,120 Speaker 3: the hospital. I call Gaby like, hey, I got COVID. 906 00:39:50,200 --> 00:39:53,160 Speaker 3: I can't leave for like three days whatever. I wake 907 00:39:53,280 --> 00:39:57,000 Speaker 3: up one morning in the hospital and this is a 908 00:39:57,080 --> 00:40:00,560 Speaker 3: doctor standing there and he was like, I work. 909 00:40:00,440 --> 00:40:03,120 Speaker 4: In oncology, and I just want to let you know. 910 00:40:03,920 --> 00:40:06,080 Speaker 3: We're going through your blood work and everything else and 911 00:40:06,160 --> 00:40:11,560 Speaker 3: a peer as you have blockage in your colon, we 912 00:40:11,600 --> 00:40:15,240 Speaker 3: want to get checked out. And we've done some blood 913 00:40:15,239 --> 00:40:17,640 Speaker 3: work on your liver. What it looks like right now 914 00:40:17,680 --> 00:40:19,880 Speaker 3: is that you have multiple swimmers. 915 00:40:20,040 --> 00:40:20,720 Speaker 4: You have cancer. 916 00:40:20,760 --> 00:40:25,120 Speaker 3: And I was like, okay, so not COVID. He's like, yeah, 917 00:40:25,160 --> 00:40:27,879 Speaker 3: I gus, we just got the viowel after the sea. 918 00:40:27,920 --> 00:40:29,719 Speaker 4: Wrong, okay, no big deal? All right, all right, cool, 919 00:40:29,760 --> 00:40:32,160 Speaker 4: everybody gets cancer? Like what kind? And how long? 920 00:40:32,200 --> 00:40:35,080 Speaker 3: He's like, well, run a cool one to ask. We 921 00:40:35,160 --> 00:40:36,719 Speaker 3: run a few tests, and then a couple of days 922 00:40:36,719 --> 00:40:38,919 Speaker 3: we'll meet again and we'll we'll sit down and talk. 923 00:40:38,960 --> 00:40:40,359 Speaker 3: And I was like, all right, cool. So I had 924 00:40:40,360 --> 00:40:43,080 Speaker 3: like no idea. It was like stage four right, Like 925 00:40:43,120 --> 00:40:45,799 Speaker 3: it's just like you have cancer. And I'm telling game 926 00:40:45,920 --> 00:40:48,000 Speaker 3: like this sucks, but like, you know, my mom had cancer, 927 00:40:48,120 --> 00:40:50,000 Speaker 3: she beat my dad had cancer, she'd be We've we 928 00:40:50,080 --> 00:40:52,000 Speaker 3: know people would be in cancer before, right. I'm like, 929 00:40:52,000 --> 00:40:54,280 Speaker 3: all right, so I should should be all right, hopefully 930 00:40:54,320 --> 00:40:55,239 Speaker 3: caught this early enough. 931 00:40:55,360 --> 00:40:56,759 Speaker 4: And then we go into his. 932 00:40:56,760 --> 00:40:59,640 Speaker 3: Office to go talk to him and he's like okay, 933 00:40:59,760 --> 00:41:02,759 Speaker 3: so oh. They go through the book the whole time. 934 00:41:02,760 --> 00:41:04,600 Speaker 3: I'm like, can we get to the answer. Like, I'm like, 935 00:41:05,080 --> 00:41:06,840 Speaker 3: what's the number? What's stage? 936 00:41:06,920 --> 00:41:07,040 Speaker 1: Man? 937 00:41:07,120 --> 00:41:10,120 Speaker 3: News like you have stage four. I was like whoa, whoa, 938 00:41:10,280 --> 00:41:13,040 Speaker 3: that's that's not good. He's like, yes, you're gonna be 939 00:41:13,040 --> 00:41:14,640 Speaker 3: doing chemo. When I was like, okay, so like when 940 00:41:14,640 --> 00:41:17,520 Speaker 3: am I starting keemo? He's like right right now, like 941 00:41:17,760 --> 00:41:19,640 Speaker 3: you're when we're done here, you're walking into the room, 942 00:41:19,640 --> 00:41:20,279 Speaker 3: you're starting quemo. 943 00:41:20,440 --> 00:41:22,960 Speaker 4: Like are you serious? He was like yeah, So they 944 00:41:23,000 --> 00:41:25,480 Speaker 4: already knew I had cancer, so they had a medical 945 00:41:25,560 --> 00:41:29,640 Speaker 4: port imported or implanted when I was knocked out for 946 00:41:29,640 --> 00:41:30,960 Speaker 4: like the colon oscary or whatever. 947 00:41:32,000 --> 00:41:34,080 Speaker 3: So then I gotta come home and figure out, like, 948 00:41:34,080 --> 00:41:35,880 Speaker 3: all right, I have stage four cancer. 949 00:41:35,920 --> 00:41:37,560 Speaker 4: In the first three. 950 00:41:37,360 --> 00:41:39,480 Speaker 3: Months, I didn't get out of bed. I mean I 951 00:41:39,520 --> 00:41:42,640 Speaker 3: was in bed. I was waking up, I was taking pills. 952 00:41:43,080 --> 00:41:45,160 Speaker 3: I was seeing what was on TV. I was checking 953 00:41:45,239 --> 00:41:47,719 Speaker 3: everybody in the house, looked at the food, doing this 954 00:41:47,760 --> 00:41:52,920 Speaker 3: looks disgusting. Go to bathroom, lay down, all sleep, wake up, 955 00:41:53,000 --> 00:41:55,279 Speaker 3: do it again the next day and back then. Oh, 956 00:41:55,320 --> 00:41:57,480 Speaker 3: it was horrible because I was on so much medication. 957 00:41:57,560 --> 00:42:01,239 Speaker 3: I have the cold sweats every night, like two three 958 00:42:01,239 --> 00:42:04,080 Speaker 3: times a night. I'm waking Gabby up, like we gotta 959 00:42:04,160 --> 00:42:06,200 Speaker 3: change the sheets I got. I need help, like because 960 00:42:06,200 --> 00:42:07,799 Speaker 3: I'm just so drugged up. 961 00:42:08,440 --> 00:42:09,200 Speaker 4: And I didn't know. 962 00:42:09,320 --> 00:42:11,160 Speaker 3: I mean, I was taking what I was told to 963 00:42:11,200 --> 00:42:15,359 Speaker 3: take because they're doctors. Looking back on it now, I 964 00:42:15,360 --> 00:42:19,560 Speaker 3: wish I was more like, know this, know that we're 965 00:42:20,640 --> 00:42:23,040 Speaker 3: trying to do things healthy as well. 966 00:42:23,760 --> 00:42:26,879 Speaker 4: But knowing the pills, I never looked at like them 967 00:42:26,880 --> 00:42:28,920 Speaker 4: oun like the opioids and all that kind of stuff. 968 00:42:28,960 --> 00:42:32,439 Speaker 4: But here we are now three years later and more 969 00:42:32,440 --> 00:42:37,520 Speaker 4: in control. Of how it works. It is what it is. 970 00:42:37,560 --> 00:42:40,840 Speaker 4: But yeah, that's how I found out. It was a 971 00:42:40,840 --> 00:42:43,440 Speaker 4: good tay. It was a nice, beautiful January day. 972 00:42:43,560 --> 00:42:46,600 Speaker 2: I mean, but here we are three years later and 973 00:42:46,640 --> 00:42:50,759 Speaker 2: you are still battling and you are beating cancer because 974 00:42:50,800 --> 00:42:51,359 Speaker 2: you're still here. 975 00:42:51,800 --> 00:42:53,279 Speaker 3: So I had a hard time in the meeting with 976 00:42:53,400 --> 00:42:55,239 Speaker 3: like trying to figure out what to say about like, yeah, 977 00:42:55,239 --> 00:42:57,040 Speaker 3: I have cancer, where I was like, I made a 978 00:42:57,120 --> 00:42:59,440 Speaker 3: joke a couple of times, like I never should up 979 00:42:59,440 --> 00:43:01,920 Speaker 3: because they didn't for the kids who, like I was 980 00:43:01,960 --> 00:43:05,000 Speaker 3: dealt in THEA certificate and I have stage four. I 981 00:43:05,000 --> 00:43:07,560 Speaker 3: had a cousin who works on college and she was like, 982 00:43:07,600 --> 00:43:09,600 Speaker 3: you need to stop saying stuff like that. She's like, 983 00:43:09,640 --> 00:43:11,800 Speaker 3: you need to remind your stuff that you're living with cancer. 984 00:43:11,840 --> 00:43:13,960 Speaker 3: You're not dying from cancer. And I was like it 985 00:43:14,080 --> 00:43:16,439 Speaker 3: was an instant switching my head, like I never thought 986 00:43:16,480 --> 00:43:19,520 Speaker 3: about it that way. And I'm sure you've run into 987 00:43:19,560 --> 00:43:21,400 Speaker 3: this reforms. Your boys have been out there when you've 988 00:43:21,400 --> 00:43:25,840 Speaker 3: been speaking that you're into a moment or whatever and 989 00:43:26,040 --> 00:43:31,600 Speaker 3: you're speaking and you don't realize sometimes they're they're there 990 00:43:31,880 --> 00:43:33,799 Speaker 3: and you're saying things Like when I was saying things 991 00:43:33,840 --> 00:43:36,719 Speaker 3: like death certificate or whatever, Like I didn't take into 992 00:43:36,719 --> 00:43:40,279 Speaker 3: account with like what those words really meant to my 993 00:43:40,360 --> 00:43:43,480 Speaker 3: kids or to Gabby or if they thought that I 994 00:43:43,560 --> 00:43:46,120 Speaker 3: was given up. I was just it was years later, 995 00:43:46,200 --> 00:43:48,439 Speaker 3: I mean just now just thinking around, like I can't 996 00:43:48,440 --> 00:43:51,040 Speaker 3: believe that I I did that back then, like it 997 00:43:51,080 --> 00:43:52,640 Speaker 3: was a couple of weeks ago. I've ever telling on 998 00:43:52,640 --> 00:43:54,880 Speaker 3: a friend of words return like we're not saying that anymore, 999 00:43:55,080 --> 00:43:57,440 Speaker 3: Like I get it, And it gets to point across 1000 00:43:57,440 --> 00:44:02,480 Speaker 3: as but you know, has his comment about bad words 1001 00:44:02,600 --> 00:44:05,560 Speaker 3: give you spells and good words give you blessings and 1002 00:44:05,600 --> 00:44:09,480 Speaker 3: things like that, So why talk negatively about sometime when 1003 00:44:09,480 --> 00:44:11,479 Speaker 3: we can talk positively about It'd be like he's still 1004 00:44:11,520 --> 00:44:14,080 Speaker 3: living with it as opposed to he has a dathifficcate. 1005 00:44:14,840 --> 00:44:17,200 Speaker 3: We all have a deus ctificate exactly. It's just a 1006 00:44:17,200 --> 00:44:18,600 Speaker 3: matter of when is going to get the mail. 1007 00:44:19,920 --> 00:44:22,799 Speaker 2: So what are Michael Carnell's words to someone who's. 1008 00:44:22,560 --> 00:44:27,279 Speaker 3: Battling, man, It's never quit, never give up. Because a 1009 00:44:27,280 --> 00:44:30,640 Speaker 3: lot of these cancer groups I run a part of that, 1010 00:44:30,680 --> 00:44:33,600 Speaker 3: are online, and a lot of them are great because 1011 00:44:34,440 --> 00:44:36,880 Speaker 3: there's people who have been in your situation. 1012 00:44:36,560 --> 00:44:37,960 Speaker 4: Before, who. 1013 00:44:39,080 --> 00:44:41,680 Speaker 3: You know, you may have a question about this treatment 1014 00:44:41,719 --> 00:44:43,160 Speaker 3: that they're going to give you, or you're having this 1015 00:44:43,239 --> 00:44:45,680 Speaker 3: problem and today, or you can't figure this out or whatever, 1016 00:44:45,800 --> 00:44:48,480 Speaker 3: and somebody on there seems to know like, Hey, I've 1017 00:44:48,480 --> 00:44:50,759 Speaker 3: been through this before. This is what we had to 1018 00:44:50,760 --> 00:44:52,640 Speaker 3: deal with this even like so this is this group 1019 00:44:52,719 --> 00:44:55,080 Speaker 3: is called the Colon Town Group, right because it's colon cancer. 1020 00:44:55,320 --> 00:44:58,759 Speaker 3: But then they have like fifteen different groups or forty 1021 00:44:58,760 --> 00:45:01,360 Speaker 3: different groups or stuff like that side of it. One of 1022 00:45:01,400 --> 00:45:04,000 Speaker 3: them the military group and these guys and they're like, hey, 1023 00:45:04,000 --> 00:45:05,799 Speaker 3: I'm men, have a hard time with my pack deck. 1024 00:45:05,880 --> 00:45:08,799 Speaker 4: How do I get this paperwork file? So you know 1025 00:45:08,920 --> 00:45:09,920 Speaker 4: this people give advice. 1026 00:45:10,480 --> 00:45:12,759 Speaker 3: Well, there's one that's part of it's called Man Up 1027 00:45:12,880 --> 00:45:15,200 Speaker 3: Cancer that is really good people with a lot of 1028 00:45:15,200 --> 00:45:18,160 Speaker 3: good stuff in there. But there's a lot of negativity 1029 00:45:18,239 --> 00:45:22,600 Speaker 3: sometimes too. People are like, I'm on round this. You know, 1030 00:45:22,760 --> 00:45:23,800 Speaker 3: my life is horrible. 1031 00:45:23,920 --> 00:45:26,120 Speaker 4: I hate this. I'm sick all the time. I'm tired 1032 00:45:26,160 --> 00:45:26,400 Speaker 4: of this. 1033 00:45:26,560 --> 00:45:29,680 Speaker 3: And you know, I get on there sometimes i make 1034 00:45:29,760 --> 00:45:31,840 Speaker 3: my post and I'm like I'm on a round and 1035 00:45:31,880 --> 00:45:33,799 Speaker 3: round thirty and no matter what happens, I'm still walking 1036 00:45:33,840 --> 00:45:34,759 Speaker 3: out of here at the end of day. And I'm 1037 00:45:34,760 --> 00:45:37,719 Speaker 3: gonna keep pausitive attitude and just keep moving forward. So 1038 00:45:38,000 --> 00:45:40,600 Speaker 3: I feel sometimes people give up on themselves two months 1039 00:45:40,600 --> 00:45:41,600 Speaker 3: that they don't want to have. And this is the 1040 00:45:41,640 --> 00:45:43,760 Speaker 3: thing I've talked to the doctors before too. I'm like, look, 1041 00:45:43,880 --> 00:45:46,160 Speaker 3: I understand you guys have MD if your neighbor, there's 1042 00:45:46,160 --> 00:45:49,000 Speaker 3: a reason why it's called practice in medicine, right, I said, 1043 00:45:49,000 --> 00:45:51,840 Speaker 3: But at the same time, was it I was just 1044 00:45:51,880 --> 00:45:53,560 Speaker 3: gonna say something they see that was a cheymo bringer 1045 00:45:53,640 --> 00:45:54,080 Speaker 3: just kicked in. 1046 00:45:55,400 --> 00:45:56,440 Speaker 1: No, it's fun. 1047 00:45:56,320 --> 00:46:00,839 Speaker 2: Jks TBI brain. So yeah, and I'm just forget no. 1048 00:46:01,040 --> 00:46:02,400 Speaker 2: So I'll tell the doctors. 1049 00:46:02,440 --> 00:46:03,840 Speaker 3: I'm like, the one thing that you guys can do 1050 00:46:03,920 --> 00:46:06,319 Speaker 3: is you can reacharge and you can come up with 1051 00:46:06,480 --> 00:46:09,040 Speaker 3: hypotheses and theories and everything else. 1052 00:46:09,080 --> 00:46:12,640 Speaker 4: I said. The thing you guys don't hate into account 1053 00:46:13,120 --> 00:46:17,320 Speaker 4: is human spirit, just even the faith the person has himself. 1054 00:46:17,840 --> 00:46:18,040 Speaker 1: Right. 1055 00:46:18,520 --> 00:46:20,200 Speaker 3: You could be as religious as you want to, you 1056 00:46:20,320 --> 00:46:23,520 Speaker 3: still get cancer, and you could pray all the time 1057 00:46:23,560 --> 00:46:27,839 Speaker 3: and hope those prayers are answered. But if you don't 1058 00:46:27,840 --> 00:46:30,920 Speaker 3: have faith in yourself that you can believe something. That's 1059 00:46:30,920 --> 00:46:33,760 Speaker 3: why I look at doctors. I'm like, yeah, you didn't 1060 00:46:33,760 --> 00:46:35,560 Speaker 3: think I was going to be here a year ago 1061 00:46:36,000 --> 00:46:39,319 Speaker 3: and I'm here. Let's take that as a stacking a win. 1062 00:46:39,880 --> 00:46:41,440 Speaker 3: So when I get to days, I see her and 1063 00:46:41,480 --> 00:46:43,399 Speaker 3: she's like, your numbers are down, they look really good, 1064 00:46:43,440 --> 00:46:44,360 Speaker 3: and I'm like, high five. 1065 00:46:44,480 --> 00:46:46,480 Speaker 4: She's still kind of awkward to me. My uncle is 1066 00:46:46,520 --> 00:46:51,200 Speaker 4: not like, she doesn't really do high five, but she's 1067 00:46:51,680 --> 00:46:54,719 Speaker 4: she's been awesome, you know, and she's got me to 1068 00:46:54,719 --> 00:46:55,120 Speaker 4: this point. 1069 00:46:55,160 --> 00:46:59,360 Speaker 1: So let's get back to Gabby. You took a job 1070 00:46:59,440 --> 00:47:01,120 Speaker 1: with the Dollar Stars. 1071 00:47:01,640 --> 00:47:04,839 Speaker 4: She was an ice girl for the Dallas Stars Kiss. 1072 00:47:04,840 --> 00:47:05,960 Speaker 4: So what is an ice girl? 1073 00:47:06,400 --> 00:47:07,960 Speaker 2: Ice girl? Not an ice girl. 1074 00:47:08,239 --> 00:47:10,759 Speaker 3: So they would go on ice and they clean the 1075 00:47:10,800 --> 00:47:14,080 Speaker 3: ice in between the So in the NHL, if they 1076 00:47:14,120 --> 00:47:18,440 Speaker 3: have three five minutes or three TV timeouts per period 1077 00:47:18,600 --> 00:47:21,440 Speaker 3: and just supposed to be every five minutes fifteen ten five, 1078 00:47:21,560 --> 00:47:24,759 Speaker 3: right turn those TV timeouts, the ice crops would come 1079 00:47:24,760 --> 00:47:27,920 Speaker 3: on the ice wave, Hey how you doing, And. 1080 00:47:27,880 --> 00:47:30,200 Speaker 1: They do it in full body robes with hoods on. 1081 00:47:30,360 --> 00:47:33,280 Speaker 4: Pretty much, and then they had shovels. 1082 00:47:33,280 --> 00:47:35,239 Speaker 3: Then they would pick up the snow around the ice, 1083 00:47:35,239 --> 00:47:36,960 Speaker 3: which would just you know, maybe he wants us off 1084 00:47:36,960 --> 00:47:38,920 Speaker 3: the ice because it causes friction on the pocking slows 1085 00:47:38,920 --> 00:47:41,160 Speaker 3: to puck down and everything else, so try to keep 1086 00:47:41,160 --> 00:47:44,560 Speaker 3: it as clean asmon as possible. And I got stationed 1087 00:47:44,680 --> 00:47:48,439 Speaker 3: fourth com clearly by accident, but I had a friend 1088 00:47:48,440 --> 00:47:50,560 Speaker 3: who was here and he introduced to somebody else and 1089 00:47:50,600 --> 00:47:53,040 Speaker 3: they were like, oh, you like hockey and I was like, yeah, 1090 00:47:53,040 --> 00:47:55,880 Speaker 3: I've been playing stuff like four years old. And they're like, 1091 00:47:55,920 --> 00:48:00,120 Speaker 3: do you want a job with the stars? Don't work security? Like, 1092 00:48:00,120 --> 00:48:02,480 Speaker 3: I don't want to be dudes sitting around in her jacket. 1093 00:48:02,880 --> 00:48:05,680 Speaker 3: Just let me read your jiggot. I'm like, I don't 1094 00:48:05,719 --> 00:48:07,440 Speaker 3: want to do that, and they're like, just come on 1095 00:48:07,480 --> 00:48:09,480 Speaker 3: out and tell us what you think. So the first 1096 00:48:09,560 --> 00:48:12,200 Speaker 3: night was out there and I was signed to work 1097 00:48:12,239 --> 00:48:16,000 Speaker 3: with Ice Girls, and I walked around with my now 1098 00:48:16,040 --> 00:48:18,799 Speaker 3: wife at the time all night long. At the end night, 1099 00:48:18,880 --> 00:48:20,440 Speaker 3: went back in the room with some of the guys 1100 00:48:20,480 --> 00:48:22,279 Speaker 3: and they have like the pictures you know that the 1101 00:48:22,280 --> 00:48:24,520 Speaker 3: Ice Girls sign all the time to pass out to 1102 00:48:24,640 --> 00:48:27,000 Speaker 3: fans or whatever, and one of the guys was like, 1103 00:48:27,080 --> 00:48:29,640 Speaker 3: out of all the girls in here, which one do 1104 00:48:29,680 --> 00:48:32,560 Speaker 3: you like the best? And I actually pointed to Gabriella 1105 00:48:33,000 --> 00:48:37,400 Speaker 3: and yeah, you did. After that, like it just seemed like, 1106 00:48:37,520 --> 00:48:39,960 Speaker 3: you know, we would go to like they had the 1107 00:48:40,000 --> 00:48:42,360 Speaker 3: bar at the Jack Daniels Club at American All and 1108 00:48:42,400 --> 00:48:44,799 Speaker 3: said we'd always go up after the fans would leave 1109 00:48:44,840 --> 00:48:46,040 Speaker 3: his stuff and then we'd be able to go up 1110 00:48:46,040 --> 00:48:47,839 Speaker 3: there and go get a drink or whatever and see 1111 00:48:47,880 --> 00:48:51,040 Speaker 3: our friends or whatever. And I saw Gabby and she 1112 00:48:51,120 --> 00:48:52,400 Speaker 3: came out to me. She put her hand on me, 1113 00:48:52,440 --> 00:48:53,879 Speaker 3: and she was like, we should go out some time. 1114 00:48:53,880 --> 00:48:56,759 Speaker 4: And I was looking us like this girl putting her 1115 00:48:56,880 --> 00:48:57,479 Speaker 4: arm on me before. 1116 00:48:57,600 --> 00:49:00,400 Speaker 3: I'm like, I've been going to all these events for 1117 00:49:00,440 --> 00:49:04,319 Speaker 3: like a year, chasing her around, showing up talking, You've 1118 00:49:04,320 --> 00:49:06,799 Speaker 3: beck in full conversation with her. She'd be like, I 1119 00:49:06,800 --> 00:49:08,359 Speaker 3: gotta go to the bathroom and then never come back, 1120 00:49:08,400 --> 00:49:11,480 Speaker 3: and now now I'm supposed to put her arm on 1121 00:49:11,520 --> 00:49:12,640 Speaker 3: me and we should go oh sometime. 1122 00:49:12,680 --> 00:49:15,040 Speaker 4: I'm like, this is so, what'd you do? 1123 00:49:15,920 --> 00:49:18,880 Speaker 3: We actually spent that entire night talking and then I 1124 00:49:18,920 --> 00:49:21,000 Speaker 3: walked it back to the Parking garage and then we 1125 00:49:21,000 --> 00:49:22,680 Speaker 3: set up a time to go out a date. She 1126 00:49:22,760 --> 00:49:24,600 Speaker 3: had tickets for a Raiders game, so she's like, I 1127 00:49:24,800 --> 00:49:26,680 Speaker 3: want to a Raiders game. So our first eight was 1128 00:49:26,680 --> 00:49:30,239 Speaker 3: her take me to a Raiders game. And I don't 1129 00:49:30,239 --> 00:49:31,920 Speaker 3: think the Rangers have ever hit so many. 1130 00:49:31,719 --> 00:49:34,520 Speaker 4: Home runs in one direction. All right. 1131 00:49:34,640 --> 00:49:37,919 Speaker 3: We were like in left field every two minutes, there's 1132 00:49:37,920 --> 00:49:40,000 Speaker 3: a ball hit at us. I was like, this is 1133 00:49:40,040 --> 00:49:43,279 Speaker 3: a bad spot, right, Like we're talking the whole time 1134 00:49:43,320 --> 00:49:44,880 Speaker 3: and just trying to make sure we don't get hit 1135 00:49:44,880 --> 00:49:45,200 Speaker 3: in the head. 1136 00:49:48,840 --> 00:49:50,440 Speaker 2: That is a beautiful love story. 1137 00:49:50,520 --> 00:49:51,960 Speaker 3: I chased her around for a year and then she 1138 00:49:52,000 --> 00:49:53,480 Speaker 3: finally let me take her on a date, and then 1139 00:49:54,360 --> 00:49:59,040 Speaker 3: we moved in. We started dating in September of Oh man, 1140 00:50:00,160 --> 00:50:03,120 Speaker 3: oh three, September O three. Yeah, because you deployed No. 1141 00:50:03,239 --> 00:50:07,040 Speaker 3: Four And we started doing in September, and I think 1142 00:50:07,040 --> 00:50:08,880 Speaker 3: it was like November. I had to call her up 1143 00:50:08,920 --> 00:50:11,360 Speaker 3: and I was like, hey, I go on, we just 1144 00:50:11,400 --> 00:50:12,760 Speaker 3: got some news over here today. 1145 00:50:12,840 --> 00:50:13,239 Speaker 4: She's like what. 1146 00:50:13,440 --> 00:50:15,719 Speaker 3: I'm like, we're deploying. She has no idea what that 1147 00:50:15,800 --> 00:50:18,680 Speaker 3: really means. She's still so new to the marine, like 1148 00:50:18,719 --> 00:50:20,640 Speaker 3: she didn't have been to a rinkle ball yet. All right, 1149 00:50:21,000 --> 00:50:24,160 Speaker 3: And I'm like I'm deploying and she's like, okay, go ah, 1150 00:50:24,960 --> 00:50:26,440 Speaker 3: I wonder if you can help me out with something. 1151 00:50:26,480 --> 00:50:31,319 Speaker 3: I go, my lease ends in February. We're leaving at 1152 00:50:31,360 --> 00:50:32,920 Speaker 3: the end of February. I'm not going to get in an 1153 00:50:32,920 --> 00:50:35,560 Speaker 3: apartment to put my stuff in storage. I go, if 1154 00:50:35,600 --> 00:50:38,719 Speaker 3: I pay half your rent, can I just can I 1155 00:50:38,800 --> 00:50:40,360 Speaker 3: leave my stuff? A year, all I had was a 1156 00:50:40,400 --> 00:50:42,960 Speaker 3: couch like a TV, my clothes. I didn't have anything 1157 00:50:42,960 --> 00:50:46,080 Speaker 3: at the time. I was twenty three, twenty four years old, right, 1158 00:50:46,160 --> 00:50:48,319 Speaker 3: I had no money barely. I mean I think I 1159 00:50:48,400 --> 00:50:50,360 Speaker 3: still use solo cups. I didn't even have a regular 1160 00:50:50,400 --> 00:50:54,440 Speaker 3: cup in my apartment, right, So she's like, yeah, no problem. 1161 00:50:54,719 --> 00:50:57,239 Speaker 3: When we came back from deployment, she picked me up. 1162 00:50:57,440 --> 00:50:59,840 Speaker 3: We hung out that day, and then she took me 1163 00:50:59,840 --> 00:51:00,200 Speaker 3: home home. 1164 00:51:00,440 --> 00:51:05,040 Speaker 4: I've never left. I've never been asked if I want 1165 00:51:05,120 --> 00:51:08,200 Speaker 4: to live with her. Here we are twenty years later. 1166 00:51:08,239 --> 00:51:12,840 Speaker 2: I always be clothed and always that's brilliant. Yeah, twenty 1167 00:51:12,920 --> 00:51:14,360 Speaker 2: years and three. 1168 00:51:14,200 --> 00:51:18,439 Speaker 4: Beautiful children, very well behaved children that I couldn't ask for, 1169 00:51:18,719 --> 00:51:21,839 Speaker 4: literally anything better. I mean, parenting is one of those things, right, 1170 00:51:21,840 --> 00:51:23,680 Speaker 4: we're always trying to figure out. And I had this thing, 1171 00:51:23,800 --> 00:51:25,520 Speaker 4: I had written down that and of course now I 1172 00:51:25,560 --> 00:51:27,319 Speaker 4: don't have the glasses, so I can't even know we 1173 00:51:27,360 --> 00:51:27,680 Speaker 4: are here. 1174 00:51:27,719 --> 00:51:30,799 Speaker 3: We are, But when it came to the kids, that's 1175 00:51:30,840 --> 00:51:33,240 Speaker 3: kind of what earlier about what we don't pay attention 1176 00:51:33,280 --> 00:51:33,680 Speaker 3: all the time. 1177 00:51:33,800 --> 00:51:35,399 Speaker 4: What they here. 1178 00:51:35,840 --> 00:51:38,279 Speaker 3: We're always saying the things that we say, and things 1179 00:51:38,280 --> 00:51:41,200 Speaker 3: like I said, like death certificate or whatever, and what 1180 00:51:41,239 --> 00:51:43,360 Speaker 3: I go through and what I look like, less side effects, 1181 00:51:43,360 --> 00:51:44,959 Speaker 3: the pain, et cetera, blah blah blah. 1182 00:51:44,960 --> 00:51:45,040 Speaker 2: Go. 1183 00:51:45,400 --> 00:51:48,680 Speaker 3: There's somebody else's watching me and paying attention. That's learning 1184 00:51:48,840 --> 00:51:52,359 Speaker 3: and growing. And I feel guilty all the time because 1185 00:51:52,360 --> 00:51:54,120 Speaker 3: I don't want my kids to grow up no one. 1186 00:51:56,080 --> 00:51:57,279 Speaker 4: Their dad was sick all time. 1187 00:51:57,360 --> 00:51:59,319 Speaker 3: Lean came home from school every day and I was 1188 00:52:00,640 --> 00:52:04,359 Speaker 3: on the couch watch the TV under blankets, drink of tea, 1189 00:52:04,600 --> 00:52:07,600 Speaker 3: looking miserable, you know. Or sometimes when I go in 1190 00:52:07,640 --> 00:52:10,239 Speaker 3: and the epykmo in the side effects her, you know, 1191 00:52:10,360 --> 00:52:12,279 Speaker 3: things like when my face breakout. I'm like, I don't 1192 00:52:12,280 --> 00:52:13,960 Speaker 3: want to go anywhere with my kids because I want 1193 00:52:14,000 --> 00:52:16,439 Speaker 3: them to be embarrassed because I look like the way 1194 00:52:16,440 --> 00:52:19,480 Speaker 3: that I do. I think one of the good things 1195 00:52:19,600 --> 00:52:22,400 Speaker 3: is our oldest daughter's soccer team. 1196 00:52:22,880 --> 00:52:25,400 Speaker 4: There's like six of them that're been together for like. 1197 00:52:25,520 --> 00:52:29,239 Speaker 3: Eight years, so we know them all very well. But 1198 00:52:29,440 --> 00:52:32,719 Speaker 3: she's with such a good group of parents, and we've 1199 00:52:32,719 --> 00:52:35,040 Speaker 3: been with them for a few years now that they 1200 00:52:35,120 --> 00:52:37,680 Speaker 3: know what's been going on with me, and they know, 1201 00:52:37,800 --> 00:52:40,400 Speaker 3: like when I'm not there when it's one hundred and 1202 00:52:40,400 --> 00:52:42,120 Speaker 3: twenty degrees outside because I can't be in the heat, 1203 00:52:42,239 --> 00:52:44,200 Speaker 3: and I might have to miss the gaming with her 1204 00:52:44,239 --> 00:52:46,799 Speaker 3: because it's too cold. And having people like that in 1205 00:52:46,840 --> 00:52:49,839 Speaker 3: our lives that just extends our support system and people 1206 00:52:49,880 --> 00:52:53,160 Speaker 3: who can help us out has been immensely helpful. I mean, 1207 00:52:53,200 --> 00:52:54,799 Speaker 3: I can't thank the parents of the teams that we 1208 00:52:54,880 --> 00:52:57,680 Speaker 3: have around us that have helped us out big time. 1209 00:52:58,440 --> 00:53:02,840 Speaker 2: It's beautiful. And I think the kids don't see maybe 1210 00:53:02,840 --> 00:53:05,360 Speaker 2: what you're feeling. I think they see eat their father 1211 00:53:06,320 --> 00:53:10,239 Speaker 2: fighting because you're a warrior and that's what you've continued 1212 00:53:10,360 --> 00:53:11,680 Speaker 2: to do for three years. 1213 00:53:11,800 --> 00:53:14,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's it's so just it just it's hard to 1214 00:53:15,000 --> 00:53:18,359 Speaker 3: rapper on your head sometimes, you know. I mean Nick 1215 00:53:18,440 --> 00:53:20,120 Speaker 3: asked me the other day and he's like, do you 1216 00:53:20,200 --> 00:53:22,680 Speaker 3: have problems talking about death? I was like, dude, in 1217 00:53:22,760 --> 00:53:25,000 Speaker 3: nineteen ninety eight, when I settled in a yellow contract, 1218 00:53:25,160 --> 00:53:27,279 Speaker 3: I accepted death a long time ago, you know. And 1219 00:53:27,280 --> 00:53:29,400 Speaker 3: I went to a private school, so I grew religious 1220 00:53:29,440 --> 00:53:33,440 Speaker 3: and I accepted it a long time ago for myself. 1221 00:53:34,320 --> 00:53:36,239 Speaker 3: If I was singled right now and somehoppen as a 1222 00:53:36,320 --> 00:53:40,239 Speaker 3: car accident, Like I don't everybody sit here and feel 1223 00:53:40,280 --> 00:53:43,600 Speaker 3: bad for right with Gabby and the kids and anything else. 1224 00:53:43,719 --> 00:53:46,239 Speaker 3: My old goal, you know nowadays, making sure that they're 1225 00:53:46,239 --> 00:53:49,200 Speaker 3: all taken care of. You know, not that nobody does, 1226 00:53:49,960 --> 00:53:53,200 Speaker 3: but if it was for you coming to me that day, 1227 00:53:53,239 --> 00:53:56,360 Speaker 3: like hey, apparently had been nominated from all of our friends. 1228 00:53:56,360 --> 00:53:59,560 Speaker 3: They have this conversation you have to have you have 1229 00:53:59,600 --> 00:54:01,400 Speaker 3: to have ah and you we're gonna hook you up 1230 00:54:01,400 --> 00:54:03,120 Speaker 3: with a lawyer and everything else. I was like, you know, 1231 00:54:03,280 --> 00:54:05,839 Speaker 3: things like that, you don't You don't prep for when 1232 00:54:05,880 --> 00:54:09,839 Speaker 3: you're forty three years old and you're taking like I 1233 00:54:09,880 --> 00:54:10,640 Speaker 3: got a great career. 1234 00:54:10,680 --> 00:54:12,839 Speaker 4: Things are taking off from me, My kids are doing well. 1235 00:54:12,920 --> 00:54:17,600 Speaker 3: I'm living kind of the American dream, and I'm having fun. 1236 00:54:17,920 --> 00:54:21,040 Speaker 3: And then all of a sudden emergency break and you're like, yeah, 1237 00:54:21,040 --> 00:54:22,840 Speaker 3: I guess what. All that fun it's all done and 1238 00:54:22,880 --> 00:54:25,160 Speaker 3: over with that that's no longer a part of your life. 1239 00:54:26,360 --> 00:54:28,080 Speaker 3: It's one of those of like, yeah, I have to 1240 00:54:28,120 --> 00:54:29,520 Speaker 3: sit down and you have to figure it out. You're like, oh, 1241 00:54:29,520 --> 00:54:31,120 Speaker 3: I goa do big boys stuff. Now I gotta do 1242 00:54:31,160 --> 00:54:31,640 Speaker 3: a will. 1243 00:54:33,400 --> 00:54:33,720 Speaker 4: Damn. 1244 00:54:34,160 --> 00:54:37,040 Speaker 3: You know, it's it's tough to put that stuff in, 1245 00:54:37,120 --> 00:54:40,640 Speaker 3: but it was nice to have it done and behind 1246 00:54:40,719 --> 00:54:43,160 Speaker 3: us because we don't have to think about it anymore. 1247 00:54:43,200 --> 00:54:46,239 Speaker 3: We know what's gonna happen with everything, what will happen 1248 00:54:46,280 --> 00:54:47,840 Speaker 3: with the kids, what will happen with you know. I 1249 00:54:47,880 --> 00:54:51,160 Speaker 3: mean obviously we're not talking like that. It is just 1250 00:54:51,160 --> 00:54:54,560 Speaker 3: something that's gonna happen. But we're just yeah, we're more 1251 00:54:54,560 --> 00:54:58,400 Speaker 3: prepped today than we were before and trying to just 1252 00:54:58,480 --> 00:55:00,680 Speaker 3: enjoy life every single day. That's the thing is, there's 1253 00:55:00,680 --> 00:55:02,879 Speaker 3: so many people where they're like you enjoying them, Like, yeah, 1254 00:55:02,880 --> 00:55:03,239 Speaker 3: I have good. 1255 00:55:03,160 --> 00:55:05,480 Speaker 4: Days and bad days ago, but I'm living it, you know. 1256 00:55:05,840 --> 00:55:07,960 Speaker 1: And that's the thing is, it doesn't matter what that 1257 00:55:08,000 --> 00:55:11,600 Speaker 1: looks like, right, And I think that it's important, you know, 1258 00:55:11,640 --> 00:55:15,319 Speaker 1: with Jack and Jmo, the being from really young to 1259 00:55:15,320 --> 00:55:17,320 Speaker 1: getting older and older and they would ask me about 1260 00:55:17,400 --> 00:55:20,000 Speaker 1: the scars and you know this and how did that happen? 1261 00:55:20,040 --> 00:55:24,040 Speaker 1: And I used to be concerned about, well, you know, 1262 00:55:24,080 --> 00:55:27,200 Speaker 1: when I walk into the daycare, are they gonna be like, oh, 1263 00:55:27,320 --> 00:55:29,480 Speaker 1: that's my dad with a robot leg and you know, 1264 00:55:29,960 --> 00:55:35,040 Speaker 1: whereas now I just couldn't possibly care less, you know, 1265 00:55:35,160 --> 00:55:40,200 Speaker 1: because it's easy to show them living when everything's great, 1266 00:55:40,800 --> 00:55:45,600 Speaker 1: that's easy. Yeah, doing it's hard, but doing it now, Yeah, 1267 00:55:46,080 --> 00:55:49,799 Speaker 1: Like you're showing them what grit with grace looks like. 1268 00:55:49,880 --> 00:55:53,960 Speaker 1: And you're showing them And that's why I just wholeheartedly disagree. 1269 00:55:54,000 --> 00:55:56,279 Speaker 1: And I think that's very much societal thing that's been 1270 00:55:56,320 --> 00:55:58,719 Speaker 1: pushed on you. On that mindset of like, well, you know, 1271 00:55:58,719 --> 00:56:00,000 Speaker 1: if I'm breaking out and I don't want to go 1272 00:56:00,120 --> 00:56:01,799 Speaker 1: and I'm afraid they're going to be embarrassed, I mean, 1273 00:56:01,920 --> 00:56:04,759 Speaker 1: I think that's really societal. Like I feel like if 1274 00:56:04,760 --> 00:56:07,879 Speaker 1: we didn't have all that shit out there, you would 1275 00:56:07,960 --> 00:56:08,839 Speaker 1: never cross your mind. 1276 00:56:08,960 --> 00:56:09,480 Speaker 4: Probably not. 1277 00:56:10,000 --> 00:56:12,640 Speaker 1: I think it's so important to say that what you've 1278 00:56:12,640 --> 00:56:17,160 Speaker 1: shown them for the past three years is so much 1279 00:56:17,200 --> 00:56:20,080 Speaker 1: more valuable than anything they're gonna get in the classroom, 1280 00:56:20,600 --> 00:56:25,480 Speaker 1: anything they're gonna get on a soccer field or from 1281 00:56:25,600 --> 00:56:30,960 Speaker 1: a game experience or gaming experience. I just truly believe 1282 00:56:31,040 --> 00:56:36,520 Speaker 1: that what you've done has been it's been like I 1283 00:56:36,640 --> 00:56:39,600 Speaker 1: sit in awe of you, and I don't do it 1284 00:56:39,640 --> 00:56:42,840 Speaker 1: with and you know me, like, I don't say that lightly, 1285 00:56:42,880 --> 00:56:45,239 Speaker 1: Like there's not a whole lot of people like wow, 1286 00:56:45,280 --> 00:56:49,160 Speaker 1: I'm just blown away because I don't do that. I mean, man, 1287 00:56:49,239 --> 00:56:51,120 Speaker 1: probably because it's pretty hard to blow me away. I 1288 00:56:51,120 --> 00:56:55,919 Speaker 1: mean unless you're thought but bro with you, it's been 1289 00:56:56,160 --> 00:57:01,440 Speaker 1: I think that your kids, your wife, your family, your friends, 1290 00:57:01,960 --> 00:57:04,880 Speaker 1: just motivating to think about you. And it's motivating like 1291 00:57:04,920 --> 00:57:07,000 Speaker 1: anytime I feel like shit and I don't want to 1292 00:57:08,200 --> 00:57:10,840 Speaker 1: do another call or do this thing, and I'm like, 1293 00:57:12,320 --> 00:57:13,160 Speaker 1: come on, guy. 1294 00:57:13,560 --> 00:57:16,400 Speaker 4: Yeah, I appreciate that. Man. I mean, it means a lot. 1295 00:57:16,440 --> 00:57:19,080 Speaker 4: It's specially coming from you. I've learned a lot from 1296 00:57:19,080 --> 00:57:19,800 Speaker 4: you over the years. 1297 00:57:19,840 --> 00:57:23,760 Speaker 3: And I said this once before, somebody has said I 1298 00:57:23,800 --> 00:57:29,400 Speaker 3: wouldn't waste cancer on anybody. Obviously it's a horrible, miserable disease. 1299 00:57:29,480 --> 00:57:34,400 Speaker 3: But some way it's been a blessing. And just guys, 1300 00:57:34,600 --> 00:57:37,120 Speaker 3: it's me, Gabby and I a thousand times close to 1301 00:57:37,160 --> 00:57:39,840 Speaker 3: each other. Even we're arguing about stuff, we don't argue 1302 00:57:39,960 --> 00:57:42,160 Speaker 3: like when we were younger, you know, like oh ah, 1303 00:57:42,280 --> 00:57:44,040 Speaker 3: you used to stay down with your friends, do long 1304 00:57:44,040 --> 00:57:45,880 Speaker 3: and blah blah blah. I'm imad agin you for nine 1305 00:57:46,000 --> 00:57:49,040 Speaker 3: days and I talk to you and whatever. Now she's 1306 00:57:49,080 --> 00:57:50,720 Speaker 3: mad at me, and the next morning she wakes up, 1307 00:57:50,760 --> 00:57:51,400 Speaker 3: she's like, how can. 1308 00:57:51,240 --> 00:57:51,720 Speaker 4: I help you? 1309 00:57:51,720 --> 00:57:54,640 Speaker 3: You know, and it's we've learned more about mutual love 1310 00:57:54,680 --> 00:57:57,400 Speaker 3: and respect. It's deeper for us now than it was before. 1311 00:57:57,720 --> 00:57:59,720 Speaker 3: But even with the kids, it wasn't like I ignored 1312 00:57:59,720 --> 00:58:01,240 Speaker 3: the kid that we didn't go to things in them, 1313 00:58:01,240 --> 00:58:02,920 Speaker 3: because we went to every event that they had, every 1314 00:58:02,960 --> 00:58:04,040 Speaker 3: game they had, We been to it. 1315 00:58:04,160 --> 00:58:04,320 Speaker 1: Right. 1316 00:58:05,280 --> 00:58:07,880 Speaker 3: I appreciate it more now because they go to those things, 1317 00:58:07,880 --> 00:58:11,160 Speaker 3: and I'm like, you know what, not everybody woke up 1318 00:58:11,200 --> 00:58:13,800 Speaker 3: today and not everybody's getting to see this. So I'm 1319 00:58:13,840 --> 00:58:16,040 Speaker 3: blessed with being able to wake up and me pissing 1320 00:58:16,040 --> 00:58:18,600 Speaker 3: off the devil every day. And even if it feel 1321 00:58:18,600 --> 00:58:20,919 Speaker 3: bad or I look bad, I love going to watch 1322 00:58:20,920 --> 00:58:24,400 Speaker 3: the kids play and being at their stuff goes maybe 1323 00:58:24,520 --> 00:58:27,000 Speaker 3: me sooner thinking in one way about like I don't 1324 00:58:27,000 --> 00:58:29,560 Speaker 3: want them feeling bad that I look like this or 1325 00:58:29,640 --> 00:58:31,400 Speaker 3: they think of me like this. When they get older, 1326 00:58:32,280 --> 00:58:35,400 Speaker 3: hopefully they remind themselves that I was always there, you know, 1327 00:58:35,480 --> 00:58:38,640 Speaker 3: I was always making it to the games. And I 1328 00:58:38,680 --> 00:58:41,480 Speaker 3: hope in God and pray all the time that we 1329 00:58:41,560 --> 00:58:46,240 Speaker 3: do something right with the kids, because it's like parenting is. 1330 00:58:47,760 --> 00:58:50,760 Speaker 3: I don't care what book they give you, it makes 1331 00:58:51,040 --> 00:58:54,160 Speaker 3: no sense whatsoever. You know, we love our kids so much. 1332 00:58:54,200 --> 00:58:55,600 Speaker 3: We just try to figure it out all the time 1333 00:58:55,680 --> 00:58:57,560 Speaker 3: the best we can. I guess, Kevin, I've always had 1334 00:58:57,560 --> 00:59:01,320 Speaker 3: the mantra, will we'll figure it out, And you know, 1335 00:59:01,360 --> 00:59:02,680 Speaker 3: they've fit a hard time with it. I mean, they 1336 00:59:02,720 --> 00:59:04,480 Speaker 3: gotta they gotta go through this stuff too, you know, 1337 00:59:04,480 --> 00:59:06,920 Speaker 3: they got to deal with a seeming like that. But 1338 00:59:06,960 --> 00:59:09,000 Speaker 3: also like when they go to school, I don't know 1339 00:59:09,040 --> 00:59:10,520 Speaker 3: if they bring it up. Like we've talked to the 1340 00:59:10,560 --> 00:59:13,160 Speaker 3: teachers and let them know, you know, we when it 1341 00:59:13,240 --> 00:59:15,000 Speaker 3: was one time a teacher sent us a message that 1342 00:59:15,120 --> 00:59:16,360 Speaker 3: lex was having a hard day, and. 1343 00:59:16,360 --> 00:59:17,320 Speaker 4: I talked to her about it. 1344 00:59:18,640 --> 00:59:21,160 Speaker 3: But I'm not there, so I don't know what is 1345 00:59:21,200 --> 00:59:23,120 Speaker 3: being said during the day during the class. I mean, 1346 00:59:23,120 --> 00:59:25,400 Speaker 3: there shouldn't be something that prop as a topic of conversation, 1347 00:59:25,520 --> 00:59:29,200 Speaker 3: but you know, it kid be and then they could 1348 00:59:29,240 --> 00:59:31,680 Speaker 3: affect them a big time. I had to call the 1349 00:59:31,720 --> 00:59:34,080 Speaker 3: coaches and stuff like that, tell them, like I just 1350 00:59:34,120 --> 00:59:35,960 Speaker 3: need you to know they may come to practice of 1351 00:59:36,040 --> 00:59:41,040 Speaker 3: a game today and be off because I'm off all right, 1352 00:59:41,200 --> 00:59:43,480 Speaker 3: or I'm in the hospital, like when it's I had Nationals, 1353 00:59:43,480 --> 00:59:45,160 Speaker 3: you know, I'm like I'm in the hospital. 1354 00:59:45,240 --> 00:59:47,960 Speaker 4: So she's in Virginia Nationals, and I'm like that I 1355 00:59:48,080 --> 00:59:49,080 Speaker 4: had to have waited on her. 1356 00:59:49,160 --> 00:59:51,360 Speaker 3: I had to have had an impact on her, even 1357 00:59:51,400 --> 00:59:52,760 Speaker 3: though I talked to her every day and told her 1358 00:59:52,760 --> 00:59:53,280 Speaker 3: I'm good to go. 1359 00:59:53,320 --> 00:59:55,200 Speaker 4: Don't worry about it. I'd be fine. I'll be home 1360 00:59:55,200 --> 00:59:55,880 Speaker 4: when you get here. 1361 00:59:56,520 --> 00:59:58,640 Speaker 3: Try to keep a positive I was like, I know 1362 00:59:59,120 --> 01:00:03,040 Speaker 3: she had a hard time yet excited for being at 1363 01:00:03,080 --> 01:00:05,280 Speaker 3: such a large event as she was at for herself, 1364 01:00:05,320 --> 01:00:07,280 Speaker 3: such a huge ecompete for their team to go to 1365 01:00:07,360 --> 01:00:10,040 Speaker 3: Nashville and be four than forty one other teams to 1366 01:00:10,120 --> 01:00:13,840 Speaker 3: get there, and I felt bad because I wasn't there. 1367 01:00:13,840 --> 01:00:16,320 Speaker 3: I was like, this sucks, but you know, we got 1368 01:00:16,360 --> 01:00:18,560 Speaker 3: more Nationalist going on this week, so hopefully I make 1369 01:00:18,680 --> 01:00:19,080 Speaker 3: up for it. 1370 01:00:19,240 --> 01:00:29,560 Speaker 2: So go to a little bit warmer weather. Yeah yeah, 1371 01:00:29,640 --> 01:00:35,480 Speaker 2: Michael Carnell to echo everything Jake said. You truly inspire us. 1372 01:00:35,600 --> 01:00:38,880 Speaker 2: You motivate us on the daily. We're just so privileged 1373 01:00:38,920 --> 01:00:40,600 Speaker 2: that we've got you as a brother in our life 1374 01:00:40,640 --> 01:00:42,600 Speaker 2: and we get to be in such close contact. But 1375 01:00:42,840 --> 01:00:45,760 Speaker 2: thank you for coming and being so willing to share 1376 01:00:45,800 --> 01:00:49,240 Speaker 2: your story to inspire so many other people. I love you. 1377 01:00:49,320 --> 01:00:51,760 Speaker 3: You all are family to us been I mean the 1378 01:00:51,840 --> 01:00:54,120 Speaker 3: both asion you know that Avid for years. It was 1379 01:00:54,120 --> 01:00:55,600 Speaker 3: funny when Nick asked me, He's like, how long you 1380 01:00:55,680 --> 01:00:58,280 Speaker 3: known Jake. I go, I don't know, ago a long time. 1381 01:00:58,400 --> 01:01:00,040 Speaker 3: And then he asked me, he's like, when did you 1382 01:01:00,000 --> 01:01:02,400 Speaker 3: you remember when you met him? I was like, yeah, 1383 01:01:02,960 --> 01:01:04,720 Speaker 3: I was like, we were at our friend's house. We were 1384 01:01:04,720 --> 01:01:06,960 Speaker 3: at doing Max house, and you walked up the door 1385 01:01:06,960 --> 01:01:08,680 Speaker 3: and you said, I just got the phone with Bobby G. 1386 01:01:08,760 --> 01:01:11,880 Speaker 3: And I'm like, what the how do you know Bobby G? 1387 01:01:12,160 --> 01:01:14,400 Speaker 3: And like everybody there looked at me, all like, well, 1388 01:01:14,440 --> 01:01:16,800 Speaker 3: how do you know Bobby G. I'm like, I'm from Boston. 1389 01:01:17,520 --> 01:01:19,600 Speaker 3: There's only so many Bobby G's in Boston. 1390 01:01:21,280 --> 01:01:22,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, you guys got in a fight. 1391 01:01:22,680 --> 01:01:24,880 Speaker 4: Yeah, okay the first time we met. Yeah, we were 1392 01:01:24,880 --> 01:01:26,960 Speaker 4: at a hotel party in high school. Never spoke a 1393 01:01:27,000 --> 01:01:29,400 Speaker 4: word to each other, just look at each other. All 1394 01:01:29,400 --> 01:01:31,400 Speaker 4: of a sudden, he jumps on the bed. We start brawling, 1395 01:01:31,520 --> 01:01:32,520 Speaker 4: no reason whatsoever. 1396 01:01:33,920 --> 01:01:37,840 Speaker 1: Another marine. So, with our brothers and sisters that have 1397 01:01:37,960 --> 01:01:41,360 Speaker 1: served and deployed, you know, do you have any words 1398 01:01:41,360 --> 01:01:44,560 Speaker 1: of advice to them about getting checked out? 1399 01:01:45,280 --> 01:01:47,720 Speaker 4: Absolutely? I mean nobody came up to me and told 1400 01:01:47,760 --> 01:01:49,040 Speaker 4: me there was a thing like that. I need to 1401 01:01:49,040 --> 01:01:49,680 Speaker 4: go get checked out. 1402 01:01:49,720 --> 01:01:52,680 Speaker 3: And this sounds like an immature adult, like I should 1403 01:01:52,720 --> 01:01:55,520 Speaker 3: have been responsible and known, but I didn't or I 1404 01:01:55,640 --> 01:01:56,560 Speaker 3: just didn't pay attention. 1405 01:01:57,920 --> 01:02:00,240 Speaker 4: It's extremely important. I mean with the. 1406 01:02:00,080 --> 01:02:02,800 Speaker 3: Pack tackets out there now, there's so many things that 1407 01:02:02,800 --> 01:02:04,800 Speaker 3: are out there the VA will help out with. When 1408 01:02:04,800 --> 01:02:07,880 Speaker 3: it comes to people who are dealing with cancer. The 1409 01:02:07,960 --> 01:02:09,360 Speaker 3: thing is you got to get checked out. 1410 01:02:09,680 --> 01:02:12,000 Speaker 4: You have to. And you know, a Coleen Ausby is 1411 01:02:12,040 --> 01:02:14,960 Speaker 4: like sometimes it's uncomfortable and it's you know, it's embarrassing 1412 01:02:14,960 --> 01:02:16,520 Speaker 4: to want to go ahead and talk about whatever, but 1413 01:02:16,560 --> 01:02:18,720 Speaker 4: it's it's an hour or two out of your day. 1414 01:02:18,840 --> 01:02:20,640 Speaker 3: You go ahead, you get checked out, and then you 1415 01:02:20,720 --> 01:02:22,560 Speaker 3: get the rest of your life of knowing I have 1416 01:02:22,640 --> 01:02:25,280 Speaker 3: no problems, or you find it early enough so that 1417 01:02:25,320 --> 01:02:26,760 Speaker 3: you go ahead, go ahead and take care of So 1418 01:02:27,680 --> 01:02:30,439 Speaker 3: take the time, make the appointment, whether it's with the VA, 1419 01:02:30,520 --> 01:02:32,840 Speaker 3: whether it's your primary care doctor. It just get a 1420 01:02:32,880 --> 01:02:34,760 Speaker 3: cancer screening. I know, like I said, I'm trying to 1421 01:02:34,800 --> 01:02:35,680 Speaker 3: work on an event in March. 1422 01:02:35,720 --> 01:02:36,560 Speaker 4: We could do it here. 1423 01:02:37,200 --> 01:02:39,720 Speaker 3: But please take the time and get to a cancer 1424 01:02:39,760 --> 01:02:41,680 Speaker 3: screening and just make sure you take care of yourself 1425 01:02:41,720 --> 01:02:44,600 Speaker 3: because it works your ass off. To gets where you're at, 1426 01:02:44,600 --> 01:02:45,760 Speaker 3: you might as well go ahead enjoy the rest of 1427 01:02:45,800 --> 01:02:47,600 Speaker 3: your life. So get checked out. 1428 01:02:48,400 --> 01:02:50,880 Speaker 2: Michael, Is there anything else you want to say to 1429 01:02:50,920 --> 01:02:52,000 Speaker 2: anyone that's listening? 1430 01:02:52,520 --> 01:02:54,240 Speaker 3: Man? You know, I mean I could see it all 1431 01:02:54,360 --> 01:02:57,600 Speaker 3: day and thank all kinds of people forget me, you know, 1432 01:02:57,680 --> 01:02:58,240 Speaker 3: to where I'm at. 1433 01:02:58,320 --> 01:02:59,800 Speaker 4: You guys are a part of that group. 1434 01:03:00,000 --> 01:03:02,200 Speaker 3: And you know, you say the thing all the time 1435 01:03:02,240 --> 01:03:06,480 Speaker 3: about keeping you know, circle of small by design, and 1436 01:03:07,360 --> 01:03:10,400 Speaker 3: I've really taken that into into our lives over the 1437 01:03:10,480 --> 01:03:12,600 Speaker 3: last couple of years, about the people we really want 1438 01:03:12,600 --> 01:03:14,960 Speaker 3: to trust and have around and who know what's going on. 1439 01:03:15,000 --> 01:03:16,800 Speaker 3: You know this, you guys as Ray as if A 1440 01:03:16,840 --> 01:03:20,560 Speaker 3: bores Is, you know, from Carlo Steve and you know 1441 01:03:20,600 --> 01:03:22,480 Speaker 3: people up in Massachusetts. 1442 01:03:22,520 --> 01:03:25,600 Speaker 4: And but that's it, like the rest of us. Like 1443 01:03:25,640 --> 01:03:28,000 Speaker 4: I'm not trying to hide anything for anybody. It's just a. 1444 01:03:27,920 --> 01:03:30,600 Speaker 3: Matter of I go through what I go through. And 1445 01:03:31,640 --> 01:03:33,680 Speaker 3: I think the first year that I was diagnosed, it 1446 01:03:33,760 --> 01:03:37,320 Speaker 3: was very public and everybody want to know, and it 1447 01:03:37,400 --> 01:03:39,520 Speaker 3: was a thousand questions. It's a million emails and text 1448 01:03:39,520 --> 01:03:42,440 Speaker 3: messages and everything else. I loved all the support, But 1449 01:03:42,440 --> 01:03:43,560 Speaker 3: then it came to like year two, and I was like, 1450 01:03:43,560 --> 01:03:46,840 Speaker 3: all right, I'm done, Like let me, let me live 1451 01:03:46,920 --> 01:03:47,600 Speaker 3: my life and and. 1452 01:03:47,920 --> 01:03:50,440 Speaker 4: Try to figure it out. So there there's a million. 1453 01:03:50,200 --> 01:03:52,920 Speaker 3: Of people that I all the people involved, all the 1454 01:03:52,960 --> 01:03:55,560 Speaker 3: nonprofits that we've found work with before, and I could 1455 01:03:55,640 --> 01:03:58,880 Speaker 3: send a spitter all day they talk about it. There 1456 01:03:58,960 --> 01:04:00,960 Speaker 3: was one this is This is a quote that I 1457 01:04:01,440 --> 01:04:03,800 Speaker 3: really like and I keep it around. 1458 01:04:04,400 --> 01:04:06,160 Speaker 4: And it's about an old Cherokee. He may have heard 1459 01:04:06,200 --> 01:04:08,560 Speaker 4: it before. It's about Cherokee and wolves. 1460 01:04:09,960 --> 01:04:12,720 Speaker 3: And the story it goes that there's an older man 1461 01:04:12,840 --> 01:04:16,200 Speaker 3: he's taking out of his grandson and they're talking about life. 1462 01:04:17,120 --> 01:04:19,120 Speaker 3: The old man explains to the grandson that not all 1463 01:04:19,120 --> 01:04:21,760 Speaker 3: the people in this life, you know, they they're struggling too. 1464 01:04:21,760 --> 01:04:23,520 Speaker 4: There's a fight for them to go to. And the 1465 01:04:23,560 --> 01:04:26,000 Speaker 4: struggle consists for two wolves. 1466 01:04:26,600 --> 01:04:31,160 Speaker 3: So one manifests itself to negativity, you know, bad energy, 1467 01:04:31,240 --> 01:04:35,560 Speaker 3: and he's anger, he's sorrow, he's inferiority, he's all that's evil. 1468 01:04:36,360 --> 01:04:39,120 Speaker 3: The other wolf with joy, he's capassion, he's faith, he's truth, 1469 01:04:39,160 --> 01:04:40,480 Speaker 3: he's loved, he's. 1470 01:04:40,320 --> 01:04:41,800 Speaker 4: All that's good in this world. 1471 01:04:42,280 --> 01:04:45,080 Speaker 3: So the grandfather and the grandson said there for a 1472 01:04:45,080 --> 01:04:46,760 Speaker 3: little while, and the grandson asked him. He's like, well, 1473 01:04:46,800 --> 01:04:49,440 Speaker 3: which one that wins. He's like, whichever one you feed. 1474 01:04:50,520 --> 01:04:53,240 Speaker 3: So we talk about love and appreciation for everybody else. 1475 01:04:53,320 --> 01:04:55,840 Speaker 3: I feel that the more we feed that to ourselves, 1476 01:04:55,880 --> 01:04:57,280 Speaker 3: the more we put that out there in the. 1477 01:04:57,240 --> 01:04:59,720 Speaker 4: World, the better everybody else would be. 1478 01:04:59,720 --> 01:05:01,560 Speaker 3: The man with all this other crap going on in 1479 01:05:01,640 --> 01:05:04,920 Speaker 3: the world today, going back to the Bible, like you 1480 01:05:05,000 --> 01:05:07,160 Speaker 3: love your neighbors, stuff like that, I just feel that 1481 01:05:07,200 --> 01:05:09,680 Speaker 3: if we just started treating each other a little bit better, 1482 01:05:09,760 --> 01:05:12,760 Speaker 3: eaching every day, it's going to make a big impact, 1483 01:05:12,760 --> 01:05:15,240 Speaker 3: and it makes an impact on the children, because hopefully 1484 01:05:15,240 --> 01:05:16,720 Speaker 3: my kids grow up to be, you know, good kids 1485 01:05:16,760 --> 01:05:18,800 Speaker 3: and not punk wise asses like I was. 1486 01:05:18,800 --> 01:05:19,800 Speaker 4: Having to get out of the count. 1487 01:05:21,600 --> 01:05:24,919 Speaker 3: So I'll leave with that and say I love you guys, 1488 01:05:25,000 --> 01:05:27,480 Speaker 3: thank you so much for even considering having me on 1489 01:05:27,600 --> 01:05:29,240 Speaker 3: for something like this. Let me bump my gums for 1490 01:05:29,280 --> 01:05:31,520 Speaker 3: a few minutes and hopefully gets to somebody who needs 1491 01:05:31,560 --> 01:05:33,439 Speaker 3: to hear and gets your day better. 1492 01:05:34,000 --> 01:05:35,160 Speaker 1: Not guarantee you it well. 1493 01:05:35,560 --> 01:05:37,240 Speaker 2: Thank you for being part of the good stuff. 1494 01:05:37,280 --> 01:05:38,560 Speaker 4: We love you, love it. 1495 01:05:43,600 --> 01:05:46,200 Speaker 1: We are so grateful Mike had the strength to dig 1496 01:05:46,240 --> 01:05:49,840 Speaker 1: deep today and have this conversation with us He is 1497 01:05:49,960 --> 01:05:53,160 Speaker 1: truly an incredible human being and we are humbled, honored, 1498 01:05:53,200 --> 01:05:57,120 Speaker 1: and privileged to call him brother. His life has definitely 1499 01:05:57,320 --> 01:06:01,360 Speaker 1: made our lives better. No matter what you're going through, 1500 01:06:01,640 --> 01:06:05,240 Speaker 1: keep going. Life is so short and precious, and every 1501 01:06:05,240 --> 01:06:09,360 Speaker 1: moment matters. You matter, Make it count. 1502 01:06:10,800 --> 01:06:13,440 Speaker 2: We have one episode left in season one and it's 1503 01:06:13,480 --> 01:06:16,080 Speaker 2: another great one. Make sure to follow The good Stuff 1504 01:06:16,120 --> 01:06:18,360 Speaker 2: on social media, stay up to date on The good 1505 01:06:18,360 --> 01:06:21,160 Speaker 2: Stuff podcast, and reach out to us on our website 1506 01:06:21,200 --> 01:06:23,520 Speaker 2: at The Goodstuff podcast dot com, and rate and review 1507 01:06:23,560 --> 01:06:27,320 Speaker 2: the show on Apple Podcasts. Thank you so much for 1508 01:06:27,400 --> 01:06:30,240 Speaker 2: listening to the Good Stuff. 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