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Episode two fifty four 10 00:00:46,560 --> 00:00:51,000 Speaker 2: A ton to Do Today? All Sports on Today's show, 11 00:00:51,680 --> 00:00:56,480 Speaker 2: No Networkers Sports media Commentary. However, I did do Colin 12 00:00:56,560 --> 00:01:01,240 Speaker 2: Coward's podcast last night, and he is often does baited 13 00:01:01,280 --> 00:01:04,480 Speaker 2: me after a couple because Colin, Colin and I do 14 00:01:04,560 --> 00:01:08,120 Speaker 2: these podcasts at night and we're both having a cocktail, 15 00:01:08,800 --> 00:01:11,760 Speaker 2: and then he usually about an hour into the podcast, 16 00:01:11,840 --> 00:01:14,280 Speaker 2: when I think it's about over and I'm, you know, 17 00:01:14,480 --> 00:01:17,319 Speaker 2: finishing my large glass of wine that I started with, 18 00:01:17,640 --> 00:01:21,679 Speaker 2: he starts jumping me with political topics. And yesterday I 19 00:01:21,760 --> 00:01:24,120 Speaker 2: just kind of was in the mood. So if you 20 00:01:24,160 --> 00:01:27,679 Speaker 2: want to hear my thoughts on the last month in 21 00:01:27,720 --> 00:01:33,960 Speaker 2: the American presidential race, vice presidential candidates and such, that 22 00:01:34,160 --> 00:01:36,920 Speaker 2: Cowards podcast probably comes out later today. But rather than 23 00:01:36,920 --> 00:01:39,360 Speaker 2: promote podcasts other than my own, might as well if 24 00:01:39,360 --> 00:01:42,400 Speaker 2: I'm doing that, tell you like, rate, subscribe, review. Our 25 00:01:42,440 --> 00:01:45,800 Speaker 2: YouTube numbers have kind of stalled a bit, probably because 26 00:01:46,040 --> 00:01:49,720 Speaker 2: we haven't been telling you guys to subscribe to the 27 00:01:49,760 --> 00:01:52,880 Speaker 2: YouTube channel, but also because it's not football season. Demons 28 00:01:53,040 --> 00:01:55,680 Speaker 2: has just got the one sad plaque leaning up against 29 00:01:55,720 --> 00:01:57,800 Speaker 2: the wall in his apartment because he hasn't yet hung 30 00:01:57,840 --> 00:02:02,200 Speaker 2: it up. So try to get some more before we 31 00:02:02,320 --> 00:02:06,640 Speaker 2: get to the show. Let's get to what Miss Serbia 32 00:02:06,800 --> 00:02:09,960 Speaker 2: USA is not gonna make the show because it hasn't 33 00:02:10,160 --> 00:02:15,200 Speaker 2: happened yet. France, Germany is happening about an hour from 34 00:02:15,240 --> 00:02:19,440 Speaker 2: now when we're taping and live on YouTube Serbia USA. 35 00:02:19,639 --> 00:02:24,720 Speaker 2: This is the third Team USA basketball game demanse that 36 00:02:24,960 --> 00:02:29,760 Speaker 2: tips off right when first things first starts, and I 37 00:02:29,840 --> 00:02:32,760 Speaker 2: don't get the daily ratings, and I don't really look 38 00:02:32,800 --> 00:02:36,799 Speaker 2: at the daily ratings unless it's football season. But I've 39 00:02:36,840 --> 00:02:39,960 Speaker 2: got to imagine it hasn't been good for the show 40 00:02:40,000 --> 00:02:42,840 Speaker 2: that I bet I could look at just a ratings 41 00:02:42,880 --> 00:02:45,880 Speaker 2: graph and just without dates and be like, oh, team 42 00:02:46,000 --> 00:02:48,840 Speaker 2: USA was playing, Team USA was playing, so not great 43 00:02:48,880 --> 00:02:53,080 Speaker 2: for US. Rudy Gobert maybe had finger surgery. He didn't, 44 00:02:53,200 --> 00:02:58,160 Speaker 2: but I maybe, I don't know. And Arizona, the Arizona 45 00:02:58,200 --> 00:03:04,760 Speaker 2: Cardinals introduce a truly grotesque creation, which is a burrito 46 00:03:04,880 --> 00:03:10,560 Speaker 2: of candy wrapped in cotton candy. It looks truly abhorrent. 47 00:03:10,880 --> 00:03:14,520 Speaker 2: All right, Jamanse, Let's get to the actual NFL news 48 00:03:14,560 --> 00:03:15,160 Speaker 2: if we could. 49 00:03:15,800 --> 00:03:18,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, one of the huge stories of this NFL offseason 50 00:03:18,320 --> 00:03:21,040 Speaker 3: is if Brandon Ayuk is gonna leave the forty nine Ers. 51 00:03:21,720 --> 00:03:24,359 Speaker 3: Your guy Andrew Philipponi is reporting that there's been a 52 00:03:24,440 --> 00:03:27,000 Speaker 3: verbal agreement between Pittsburgh and San Francisco. 53 00:03:27,520 --> 00:03:30,720 Speaker 4: So it's all but final. But this would this be 54 00:03:30,800 --> 00:03:31,920 Speaker 4: a bigger ad. 55 00:03:31,680 --> 00:03:35,200 Speaker 3: For Pittsburgh or a bigger loss for party in San Francisco. 56 00:03:35,440 --> 00:03:37,440 Speaker 2: Oh, that's an interesting way to put it. I mean, 57 00:03:37,480 --> 00:03:41,080 Speaker 2: it would be a massive ad for Pittsburgh. If the 58 00:03:41,120 --> 00:03:49,160 Speaker 2: Steelers get competent quarterback play, they're a legitimate team. They 59 00:03:49,320 --> 00:03:52,560 Speaker 2: assuming they add Ayuk, we know the defense is good. 60 00:03:52,920 --> 00:03:55,720 Speaker 2: They might have the best defensive player in the league 61 00:03:55,720 --> 00:03:59,000 Speaker 2: in TJ. Watt. Last year, they found their way into 62 00:03:59,000 --> 00:04:03,840 Speaker 2: the playoffs again thanks to a few really good quarterback 63 00:04:03,880 --> 00:04:07,520 Speaker 2: games by Mason Rudolph. We know they're gonna be well coached. 64 00:04:08,280 --> 00:04:10,880 Speaker 2: You have some offensive line questions for him, and I 65 00:04:10,920 --> 00:04:14,000 Speaker 2: think they're running back duo is a little overrated. But 66 00:04:14,120 --> 00:04:16,839 Speaker 2: if George Pickens all of a sudden gets dropped down 67 00:04:16,839 --> 00:04:20,080 Speaker 2: to your number two receiver and Ayuk's your number one, 68 00:04:20,520 --> 00:04:25,400 Speaker 2: then the question just is, can Fields or Russ just 69 00:04:25,520 --> 00:04:31,000 Speaker 2: give you the eighteenth best quarterbacking season in football? And 70 00:04:31,040 --> 00:04:34,159 Speaker 2: that should be enough to contend for a playoff spot 71 00:04:34,640 --> 00:04:38,200 Speaker 2: and not contend for a Super Bowl. But it would 72 00:04:38,200 --> 00:04:42,680 Speaker 2: be a great ad for Pittsburgh to the San Francisco 73 00:04:42,839 --> 00:04:47,000 Speaker 2: side of things, because I do believe this is a 74 00:04:47,040 --> 00:04:50,040 Speaker 2: fate accompany that Brandon Ayuk is going to up with 75 00:04:50,040 --> 00:04:53,280 Speaker 2: the Pittsburgh Steelers, that right now they're haggling over some 76 00:04:53,880 --> 00:04:58,640 Speaker 2: financial details with Ayuk while they've they've hammered out the 77 00:04:58,760 --> 00:05:03,440 Speaker 2: trade details with Sam Francisco. That's what Andrew Philipponi is reporting. 78 00:05:03,800 --> 00:05:09,200 Speaker 2: I've known Andrew for gosh darn man, almost twenty years, 79 00:05:09,920 --> 00:05:16,039 Speaker 2: and no one is more connected to the Steelers than 80 00:05:16,080 --> 00:05:21,520 Speaker 2: he is, So I trust his information. Even though the 81 00:05:21,600 --> 00:05:24,839 Speaker 2: National insiders are saying, you know, Andrew's saying it's the 82 00:05:24,880 --> 00:05:27,320 Speaker 2: one yard line. The National folks are saying it's closer 83 00:05:27,320 --> 00:05:30,560 Speaker 2: to the ten yard line. I trust Andrew. If you're 84 00:05:30,600 --> 00:05:36,359 Speaker 2: the Niners, this is a debacle. And that is not 85 00:05:36,640 --> 00:05:42,000 Speaker 2: because they can't compete without Ayuk. That's not what I'm saying. 86 00:05:42,640 --> 00:05:47,440 Speaker 2: It's a debacle of process. If you were going to 87 00:05:47,640 --> 00:05:52,920 Speaker 2: trade Brandon Ayuk, you've got to do it before the draft, 88 00:05:53,440 --> 00:05:57,280 Speaker 2: when Pittsburgh was offering you a first round pick that 89 00:05:57,320 --> 00:06:01,159 Speaker 2: you could have used in this year's draft, left for 90 00:06:01,480 --> 00:06:06,800 Speaker 2: a player that can help you this season. The Steelers, 91 00:06:06,839 --> 00:06:10,400 Speaker 2: by the way, in this year's draft, had the twentieth pick, 92 00:06:11,240 --> 00:06:15,000 Speaker 2: took Troy fott new from the tackle from Washington, a 93 00:06:15,080 --> 00:06:16,919 Speaker 2: player the Niners. I don't know if they would have 94 00:06:16,920 --> 00:06:20,640 Speaker 2: picked him, but an offensive lineman could have really helped him. 95 00:06:21,760 --> 00:06:27,080 Speaker 2: When you don't trade Ayuk before the draft, then you've 96 00:06:27,120 --> 00:06:30,400 Speaker 2: got to just be willing to hold your water and 97 00:06:30,480 --> 00:06:33,479 Speaker 2: be like, no, we're not trading him. We're going to 98 00:06:33,640 --> 00:06:35,680 Speaker 2: and if we lose him next year for nothing, or 99 00:06:35,680 --> 00:06:37,320 Speaker 2: if we franchise Tag him and work. 100 00:06:37,200 --> 00:06:38,000 Speaker 4: Out a trade player. 101 00:06:40,720 --> 00:06:42,040 Speaker 2: So so that. 102 00:06:42,520 --> 00:06:44,440 Speaker 4: Answer to the locker room. 103 00:06:44,680 --> 00:06:47,839 Speaker 2: So that is exactly the point Demon's. So that's the 104 00:06:47,920 --> 00:06:54,160 Speaker 2: smart point because we talked about this on the show yesterday, 105 00:06:54,640 --> 00:06:59,400 Speaker 2: which is what leverage does Ayuk have? And the answer 106 00:06:59,560 --> 00:07:06,040 Speaker 2: is exactly that. And I think folks underrate that how 107 00:07:06,040 --> 00:07:08,160 Speaker 2: big of an impact that can have because they don't 108 00:07:08,200 --> 00:07:14,200 Speaker 2: look at football teams like workplaces. But anyone that's ever 109 00:07:16,120 --> 00:07:20,000 Speaker 2: worked in an office and had someone there that was 110 00:07:20,080 --> 00:07:24,960 Speaker 2: important that they couldn't just get rid of, that wasn't 111 00:07:24,960 --> 00:07:28,520 Speaker 2: afraid they were going to be fired, who every day 112 00:07:28,680 --> 00:07:32,760 Speaker 2: walked in with a bad attitude, who talked to people 113 00:07:32,800 --> 00:07:36,920 Speaker 2: behind people's backs, who just sucked the energy out of 114 00:07:36,960 --> 00:07:41,679 Speaker 2: any room they go into. Anyone that's experienced that knows 115 00:07:42,320 --> 00:07:46,480 Speaker 2: that has real impact on other people's ability to do 116 00:07:46,560 --> 00:07:50,680 Speaker 2: their work, on other people's enjoyment of going to work. 117 00:07:51,320 --> 00:07:54,800 Speaker 2: And if you're in a team environment, whether it's a 118 00:07:54,840 --> 00:07:58,120 Speaker 2: literal team like a football team or a regular workplace 119 00:07:58,160 --> 00:08:02,960 Speaker 2: where you work as a team, that can totally derail you. 120 00:08:03,760 --> 00:08:07,720 Speaker 2: So that's clearly what the Niners are afraid of. The 121 00:08:07,760 --> 00:08:12,960 Speaker 2: point I'm making Demons is they needed to determine before 122 00:08:13,120 --> 00:08:17,680 Speaker 2: the draft, if we don't trade Ayuk and if we 123 00:08:17,720 --> 00:08:21,040 Speaker 2: don't give him thirty million a year or whatever the 124 00:08:21,120 --> 00:08:24,800 Speaker 2: number is, is that the route he's going to take. 125 00:08:25,640 --> 00:08:29,000 Speaker 2: And if so, then we've got a trade. And we 126 00:08:29,080 --> 00:08:31,320 Speaker 2: don't think we can deal with that, then we've got 127 00:08:31,320 --> 00:08:33,880 Speaker 2: to trade him. And the other reason de Monday that 128 00:08:33,920 --> 00:08:37,680 Speaker 2: I think this is so mishandled is this isn't a shock. 129 00:08:38,800 --> 00:08:43,760 Speaker 2: This didn't catch any He has been flirting with Washington 130 00:08:43,760 --> 00:08:49,520 Speaker 2: and Pittsburgh for months, openly talking about it on podcasts, 131 00:08:49,800 --> 00:08:52,680 Speaker 2: putting out ig videos saying, oh they're done with me? 132 00:08:53,120 --> 00:08:57,080 Speaker 2: Should doing a TikTok where he's breaking down the commanders 133 00:08:57,200 --> 00:09:01,320 Speaker 2: all twenty two Like, this wasn't a Oh my god, 134 00:09:01,520 --> 00:09:04,760 Speaker 2: who could have seen this coming? Everyone saw it coming. 135 00:09:05,280 --> 00:09:08,160 Speaker 2: So if you saw it coming, had an opportunity to 136 00:09:08,160 --> 00:09:11,440 Speaker 2: trade him before the draft and decided not to to 137 00:09:11,520 --> 00:09:15,800 Speaker 2: all of a sudden, you know, lose your metal a 138 00:09:15,880 --> 00:09:21,280 Speaker 2: month before the start of the season is concerning, and 139 00:09:21,440 --> 00:09:24,600 Speaker 2: I think it's damaging, significantly damaging for the Niners. 140 00:09:24,720 --> 00:09:27,280 Speaker 4: Let's go on and okay, are we on to the 141 00:09:27,320 --> 00:09:30,280 Speaker 4: next topic? He no, no, no, we can do with 142 00:09:30,320 --> 00:09:33,080 Speaker 4: the other stuff on this Christian McCaffrey. 143 00:09:32,520 --> 00:09:34,559 Speaker 3: Being hurt in them trading Ayuk away. What do you 144 00:09:34,559 --> 00:09:36,760 Speaker 3: think San Francisco's future is for this year? 145 00:09:37,840 --> 00:09:43,959 Speaker 2: Well, McCaffery, they're not cooked, but last year they got 146 00:09:44,040 --> 00:09:49,600 Speaker 2: outstanding health by all the Avengers. Right now they're in 147 00:09:49,640 --> 00:09:53,880 Speaker 2: this situation. Trent Williams is holding out. He's the best 148 00:09:53,880 --> 00:09:56,560 Speaker 2: player on the team. I think that'll get resolved, but 149 00:09:56,640 --> 00:10:01,599 Speaker 2: it's not ideal. Christian McCaffrey, wh who the two healthiest 150 00:10:01,679 --> 00:10:04,520 Speaker 2: portions of his career have been this time with San Francisco, 151 00:10:05,240 --> 00:10:08,200 Speaker 2: is dealing with a calf strain before the season starts. 152 00:10:08,720 --> 00:10:14,240 Speaker 2: That's not ideal. Ricky Persall Pearsall, their first round pick 153 00:10:14,520 --> 00:10:18,080 Speaker 2: has been hurt three separate times in camp, and even 154 00:10:18,120 --> 00:10:21,480 Speaker 2: if none of those are significant injuries, that is a 155 00:10:21,600 --> 00:10:25,080 Speaker 2: double red flag. The first one is, ah man, did 156 00:10:25,120 --> 00:10:28,480 Speaker 2: we draft a player that's gonna have major medical concerns? 157 00:10:28,600 --> 00:10:31,439 Speaker 2: And the other one is rookies need training camp more 158 00:10:31,480 --> 00:10:37,160 Speaker 2: than anybody. And Ayuk, who was Perty's only consistent deep 159 00:10:37,240 --> 00:10:41,079 Speaker 2: downfield target last year. The reason Perty wasn't a dink 160 00:10:41,120 --> 00:10:45,200 Speaker 2: and dunker was because of Brandon Ayuk. He was fourteen 161 00:10:45,440 --> 00:10:49,600 Speaker 2: yards per attempt to Ayuk six and a half yards 162 00:10:49,640 --> 00:10:53,640 Speaker 2: per attempt to everyone else on the team. All those 163 00:10:53,760 --> 00:11:00,959 Speaker 2: things you put them together to bat offseason. Uh, and 164 00:11:01,080 --> 00:11:03,440 Speaker 2: so that good. Go ahead. 165 00:11:04,040 --> 00:11:07,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, it also seems like Iyuk was angling to play 166 00:11:07,000 --> 00:11:10,880 Speaker 3: with Jaden Daniels in Washington's GM came from San Francisco 167 00:11:11,880 --> 00:11:15,040 Speaker 3: with Washington not being interested in you, is there something 168 00:11:15,440 --> 00:11:16,360 Speaker 3: to read into there? 169 00:11:17,640 --> 00:11:23,800 Speaker 2: So what I readed into that is that Washington understands 170 00:11:23,840 --> 00:11:28,719 Speaker 2: that as of this moment, they don't have an NFL 171 00:11:29,520 --> 00:11:33,600 Speaker 2: I shouldn't say NFL caliber, but good enough even close 172 00:11:33,640 --> 00:11:37,600 Speaker 2: to good enough offensive line, and they need their draft 173 00:11:37,640 --> 00:11:41,720 Speaker 2: capital to spend on that in future years. They're not 174 00:11:43,120 --> 00:11:46,120 Speaker 2: It's not like Washington this year thinks we're competing for 175 00:11:46,160 --> 00:11:50,120 Speaker 2: a championship. They have Terry McLaurin, they have Donson, they 176 00:11:50,160 --> 00:11:55,600 Speaker 2: have wide receiver is not their glaring need offensive line 177 00:11:55,760 --> 00:12:01,000 Speaker 2: is And for them to you know, trade away elite 178 00:12:01,200 --> 00:12:05,480 Speaker 2: draft resources for what would be a luxury, which is 179 00:12:05,520 --> 00:12:08,040 Speaker 2: another wide receiver is one of the deeper spots on 180 00:12:08,080 --> 00:12:14,319 Speaker 2: the commander's team. That's so I underste right, and I 181 00:12:14,440 --> 00:12:17,439 Speaker 2: don't and I think they know that they are going 182 00:12:17,480 --> 00:12:21,199 Speaker 2: to have to spend a massive amount of draft capital 183 00:12:21,240 --> 00:12:24,720 Speaker 2: over the next few years building up that offensive line. 184 00:12:24,720 --> 00:12:28,160 Speaker 2: They signed Tyler Biadis from Dallas this year. They signed 185 00:12:28,160 --> 00:12:31,800 Speaker 2: my pal Nick Alighretti from the Chiefs this year. Their 186 00:12:31,960 --> 00:12:36,520 Speaker 2: starting left tackle right now is a rookie third round pick. They, 187 00:12:36,600 --> 00:12:41,560 Speaker 2: I mean, they they need the offensive line help. And 188 00:12:41,640 --> 00:12:44,079 Speaker 2: when you've spent a first round pick on Dotson two 189 00:12:44,200 --> 00:12:47,800 Speaker 2: years ago and Terry mclaurin's a really good player, it 190 00:12:48,000 --> 00:12:51,760 Speaker 2: just seems almost like a luxury they can't quite afford. 191 00:12:51,840 --> 00:12:54,240 Speaker 2: That's how By the way, Starver in the mic, that's 192 00:12:54,280 --> 00:12:56,959 Speaker 2: how I read it. I listen. I'm not covering the 193 00:12:57,000 --> 00:12:59,280 Speaker 2: Commanders on a daily basis, but if I were running 194 00:12:59,320 --> 00:13:03,680 Speaker 2: the Commanders, I would say, this is a luxury. We 195 00:13:03,760 --> 00:13:06,760 Speaker 2: are not, you know, we almost don't deserve yet we 196 00:13:06,840 --> 00:13:09,520 Speaker 2: need to do. We need to build up the rest 197 00:13:09,520 --> 00:13:12,280 Speaker 2: of our football team first. All right, let's move on. 198 00:13:12,360 --> 00:13:12,840 Speaker 4: Fair enough. 199 00:13:13,679 --> 00:13:16,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, So hard knocks with the Bears and Caleb Williams 200 00:13:16,160 --> 00:13:19,800 Speaker 3: is officially kicked off. Nick Saban came out and said 201 00:13:19,800 --> 00:13:24,320 Speaker 3: that high expectations could stunt Caleb's growth. You actually came 202 00:13:24,320 --> 00:13:26,040 Speaker 3: out and said that Caleb could be in the Super 203 00:13:26,080 --> 00:13:28,440 Speaker 3: Bowl this year. So do you think that you're contributing 204 00:13:28,480 --> 00:13:31,920 Speaker 3: to Caleb Williams potential downfall. U. 205 00:13:32,480 --> 00:13:36,240 Speaker 2: So here's the thing. I I think that if it 206 00:13:36,440 --> 00:13:41,800 Speaker 2: were a trendy consensus pick, I think that might be 207 00:13:41,880 --> 00:13:47,160 Speaker 2: a you know, not great for him. I right now, 208 00:13:47,200 --> 00:13:49,240 Speaker 2: they're over under is set at eight and a half. 209 00:13:50,280 --> 00:13:53,320 Speaker 2: They have the fifteenth best Super Bowl odds in a 210 00:13:53,360 --> 00:13:57,440 Speaker 2: thirty two team league. There isn't too much hype. And 211 00:13:58,320 --> 00:14:02,320 Speaker 2: what Caleb, what people? I understand what Saban is saying 212 00:14:03,000 --> 00:14:09,439 Speaker 2: in that expectations. Can you know that if you'd the expectations, 213 00:14:09,440 --> 00:14:11,440 Speaker 2: if they're too high and you don't live up to them, 214 00:14:11,880 --> 00:14:14,520 Speaker 2: the damage it can do to you as a young player. 215 00:14:15,200 --> 00:14:19,680 Speaker 2: What where I think Saban's mistaken is Mistaken's the wrong word. 216 00:14:20,000 --> 00:14:24,520 Speaker 2: The context I would add to Saban's point is the 217 00:14:24,560 --> 00:14:31,320 Speaker 2: expectations for Bears fans is the standard is so low. 218 00:14:32,240 --> 00:14:36,040 Speaker 2: They've never had a four thousand yard passer. They've never 219 00:14:36,120 --> 00:14:41,760 Speaker 2: had a thirty touchdown thrower. The all time franchise leader 220 00:14:42,280 --> 00:14:47,000 Speaker 2: in passer rating for the Chicago Bears is Mitch Trubisky. 221 00:14:47,600 --> 00:14:51,920 Speaker 2: The single best quarterback season they ever had was Eric 222 00:14:52,080 --> 00:14:57,479 Speaker 2: Kramer thirty years ago. Jim Harbaugh was their starting quarterback 223 00:14:57,760 --> 00:15:03,120 Speaker 2: for four years in the nineties and never threw sixteen 224 00:15:03,280 --> 00:15:08,840 Speaker 2: touchdown passes. Okay, so Caleb just going out there and 225 00:15:08,960 --> 00:15:14,760 Speaker 2: being slightly above average is going to put Bears fans 226 00:15:14,840 --> 00:15:18,440 Speaker 2: and Bear's local media over the moon. So no, I 227 00:15:18,840 --> 00:15:23,320 Speaker 2: understand Saban's point, but I don't think the expectations are 228 00:15:23,320 --> 00:15:25,240 Speaker 2: too high. Let's go to the other follow ups. 229 00:15:25,760 --> 00:15:25,920 Speaker 4: Uh. 230 00:15:26,000 --> 00:15:28,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, So both Caleb and Josh Allen are set to 231 00:15:28,400 --> 00:15:30,840 Speaker 3: play against each other this weekend. What are you gonna 232 00:15:30,840 --> 00:15:32,640 Speaker 3: be looking out for for both of them? 233 00:15:33,320 --> 00:15:38,760 Speaker 2: Well, I'm very curious for Caleb, he's gonna have opportunities 234 00:15:38,800 --> 00:15:41,320 Speaker 2: to run and make plays with his legs. I would 235 00:15:41,320 --> 00:15:43,920 Speaker 2: prefer he doesn't do much of that in the preseason. 236 00:15:44,400 --> 00:15:50,040 Speaker 2: And for Josh, I'm curious who his theoretical number one 237 00:15:50,120 --> 00:15:53,200 Speaker 2: target is gonna be. There have been pretty good reports 238 00:15:53,200 --> 00:15:57,359 Speaker 2: out of Bill's training camp about Khalil Shakir. I'm interested 239 00:15:57,400 --> 00:16:02,720 Speaker 2: in what that looks like. Everybody loves Keon Coleman, and 240 00:16:02,760 --> 00:16:05,360 Speaker 2: then there's Curtis Samuel. It's kind of a hodgepodge. Keon 241 00:16:05,440 --> 00:16:07,760 Speaker 2: Coleman a first round or second round pick, but Rookie 242 00:16:08,320 --> 00:16:11,480 Speaker 2: and the other reports are that my guy two time 243 00:16:11,600 --> 00:16:16,880 Speaker 2: Super Bowl champion, NBS might get cut. Sneaky reports out 244 00:16:16,920 --> 00:16:22,320 Speaker 2: of New England and Buffalo are that Juju and MBS, 245 00:16:23,480 --> 00:16:27,760 Speaker 2: the Chiefs two top receiving targets the last two years, 246 00:16:28,280 --> 00:16:32,000 Speaker 2: might not make either of those rosters. And it's not 247 00:16:32,080 --> 00:16:36,720 Speaker 2: like New England and Buffalo have stacked receiver rooms. So 248 00:16:36,760 --> 00:16:39,280 Speaker 2: that's that's what I'll be watching for those guys in 249 00:16:39,320 --> 00:16:41,080 Speaker 2: that game, all right. 250 00:16:41,200 --> 00:16:45,840 Speaker 3: Next, as your prediction more about Caleb in Chicago or 251 00:16:45,920 --> 00:16:47,800 Speaker 3: your lack of faith in the NFC. 252 00:16:49,480 --> 00:16:52,200 Speaker 2: It's a both. It's both. I think that you look 253 00:16:52,200 --> 00:16:55,080 Speaker 2: at the the NFC. We're gonna get to the Eagles 254 00:16:55,080 --> 00:16:58,520 Speaker 2: issues in a moment, but they're well documented and they 255 00:16:58,520 --> 00:17:03,600 Speaker 2: collapsed last year. The cow had a miserable, miserable offseason. 256 00:17:04,119 --> 00:17:06,679 Speaker 2: I'm the only person that cares about this, but I 257 00:17:06,720 --> 00:17:09,399 Speaker 2: do care about it. The Lions lost their kicker for 258 00:17:09,440 --> 00:17:13,240 Speaker 2: the year, and I think that matters, and that's like 259 00:17:13,320 --> 00:17:16,640 Speaker 2: a sneaky important injury. There's no one in the NFC 260 00:17:16,680 --> 00:17:19,960 Speaker 2: South I think as a contender. The Niners are going backwards, 261 00:17:19,960 --> 00:17:23,280 Speaker 2: not forwards. So that leaves the Rams who had Aaron 262 00:17:23,320 --> 00:17:27,160 Speaker 2: Donald retire, and then the Packers, and I just think 263 00:17:27,200 --> 00:17:30,480 Speaker 2: the Packers because they were so great in that playoff game, 264 00:17:30,920 --> 00:17:33,960 Speaker 2: people are slightly overstating how good they were over the 265 00:17:34,000 --> 00:17:37,040 Speaker 2: course of the whole season. So all of that, plus 266 00:17:37,080 --> 00:17:39,159 Speaker 2: the fact that I think Caleb's going to be an 267 00:17:39,200 --> 00:17:43,280 Speaker 2: instant star, is why I'm putting you know, I'm putting 268 00:17:43,320 --> 00:17:45,560 Speaker 2: some stock in that. All right, let's go on to 269 00:17:45,680 --> 00:17:46,680 Speaker 2: Hurts and Sirianni. 270 00:17:47,720 --> 00:17:47,840 Speaker 4: Uh. 271 00:17:47,920 --> 00:17:50,399 Speaker 3: Yeah, So a new report said that Hurts and Sirianni's 272 00:17:50,400 --> 00:17:54,040 Speaker 3: relationship was fractured last year. So instead of this story 273 00:17:54,160 --> 00:17:56,600 Speaker 3: dying a little while back when it first came out, 274 00:17:56,640 --> 00:17:59,760 Speaker 3: it's getting more life. So it sounds like there's something 275 00:17:59,800 --> 00:18:02,440 Speaker 3: really there. Who do you think has more pressure to. 276 00:18:02,720 --> 00:18:05,479 Speaker 4: You know, to make amends Sirianni. 277 00:18:05,119 --> 00:18:08,800 Speaker 2: Hurts, Well, listen, I think Sirianni is more pressure to 278 00:18:08,840 --> 00:18:13,080 Speaker 2: make amends. But I think Jalen Hurt sneakily is under 279 00:18:13,160 --> 00:18:16,320 Speaker 2: massive pressure this year. And we talked about this on 280 00:18:16,359 --> 00:18:20,320 Speaker 2: the show yesterday. So follow me on this, Demanse. Here's 281 00:18:20,560 --> 00:18:22,840 Speaker 2: here's the point that I would be making that I'm 282 00:18:22,880 --> 00:18:25,760 Speaker 2: trying to make, and I understand it's a little counterintuitive. 283 00:18:28,400 --> 00:18:33,600 Speaker 2: If Nick Sirianni gets fired by the Eagles, his next 284 00:18:33,720 --> 00:18:39,240 Speaker 2: job is head coach of an NFL team. His winning 285 00:18:39,280 --> 00:18:43,520 Speaker 2: percentage plus three years, three playoff appearances, plus a Super 286 00:18:43,520 --> 00:18:48,280 Speaker 2: Bowl appearance means if he gets fired, he gets another 287 00:18:48,440 --> 00:18:53,359 Speaker 2: head bite at the head coaching apple almost guaranteed. I 288 00:18:53,480 --> 00:18:56,920 Speaker 2: know that folks are gonna say that I'm getting ahead 289 00:18:56,960 --> 00:19:00,679 Speaker 2: of myself here. But if the Eagles sits sour on 290 00:19:00,840 --> 00:19:05,320 Speaker 2: Jalen Hurts, Typically, when a team that drafts you and 291 00:19:05,440 --> 00:19:09,120 Speaker 2: invests in you decides oh, you're not the guy, your 292 00:19:09,280 --> 00:19:14,320 Speaker 2: next job is then a quarterback competition. That's what it 293 00:19:14,400 --> 00:19:17,040 Speaker 2: was for Darnold. That's what it was for Baker. It 294 00:19:17,119 --> 00:19:19,280 Speaker 2: wasn't that for Golf, and Golf ended up, by the 295 00:19:19,320 --> 00:19:22,760 Speaker 2: way being the best example of this. It's what it 296 00:19:22,840 --> 00:19:25,679 Speaker 2: was for Carson Wentz. It didn't work well, and I 297 00:19:25,760 --> 00:19:28,840 Speaker 2: know people are like, my god, they had a pretty 298 00:19:28,920 --> 00:19:32,040 Speaker 2: quick trigger on Jalen Hurts. The point I'm trying to 299 00:19:32,080 --> 00:19:36,920 Speaker 2: make is this, it Hurts is mediocre this year, then 300 00:19:36,960 --> 00:19:41,000 Speaker 2: you're going to look at his eight year sample of 301 00:19:41,080 --> 00:19:46,440 Speaker 2: big time football and say, in college he didn't look 302 00:19:46,480 --> 00:19:49,479 Speaker 2: like a franchise quarterback. Early in his career, didn't look 303 00:19:49,560 --> 00:19:52,040 Speaker 2: like a franchise quarterback. The last couple of years he 304 00:19:52,040 --> 00:19:55,119 Speaker 2: didn't look like a franchise quarterback. It was the one 305 00:19:55,320 --> 00:19:58,119 Speaker 2: season when he damn near won League MVP, when he 306 00:19:58,160 --> 00:20:01,400 Speaker 2: played a brilliant Super Bowl, and no one can take 307 00:20:01,440 --> 00:20:05,080 Speaker 2: that away from him. But the more we get away 308 00:20:05,119 --> 00:20:09,880 Speaker 2: from that in time until he has another year similar 309 00:20:09,920 --> 00:20:14,040 Speaker 2: to that, I think there's going to be growing concern. 310 00:20:14,520 --> 00:20:17,000 Speaker 2: So I think both of these guys are under massive 311 00:20:17,040 --> 00:20:20,440 Speaker 2: pressure for slightly different reasons. Looks like you have a question, Demonsey, 312 00:20:20,480 --> 00:20:22,120 Speaker 2: So you're. 313 00:20:22,920 --> 00:20:26,560 Speaker 3: No, no, no, I understand what you're saying. And I 314 00:20:26,600 --> 00:20:29,879 Speaker 3: think I'm not sure how long Sirianni. How long has 315 00:20:29,880 --> 00:20:30,920 Speaker 3: Sirianni been a head coach? 316 00:20:32,119 --> 00:20:35,520 Speaker 2: So this three years and three playoff appearances. 317 00:20:35,080 --> 00:20:38,439 Speaker 3: Exactly, and has a longer sample size, and Sirianni has 318 00:20:38,480 --> 00:20:40,679 Speaker 3: a shorter one, and it's better, so. 319 00:20:40,920 --> 00:20:44,080 Speaker 2: Well and and listen, and I'm no Sirianni guy. And 320 00:20:44,320 --> 00:20:46,560 Speaker 2: Hurts doesn't have much longer sample size because when I 321 00:20:46,560 --> 00:20:49,760 Speaker 2: say eight years, I'm talking including colleges and having to 322 00:20:49,800 --> 00:20:56,879 Speaker 2: transfer from Alabama. But it's just I think that this 323 00:20:57,040 --> 00:21:01,040 Speaker 2: is the other place where draft bias works. Again. The 324 00:21:01,119 --> 00:21:03,920 Speaker 2: whole league had an opportunity to take Jalen in Round one. 325 00:21:04,000 --> 00:21:07,320 Speaker 2: Nobody did which means there are certain teams or a 326 00:21:07,359 --> 00:21:12,000 Speaker 2: lot of teams theoretically that looked at him as a 327 00:21:12,000 --> 00:21:17,560 Speaker 2: certain level prospect. Teams stick with those biases. Sometimes it's 328 00:21:17,600 --> 00:21:19,960 Speaker 2: the same. The flip side of that happens a lot. 329 00:21:20,359 --> 00:21:22,960 Speaker 2: When a guy who was a top ten pick is 330 00:21:23,160 --> 00:21:28,200 Speaker 2: never good, teams keep taking chances on him because they're like, man, 331 00:21:28,720 --> 00:21:30,919 Speaker 2: we had him graded as the seventh best player in 332 00:21:30,960 --> 00:21:33,000 Speaker 2: the draft when we get him, even if he's been 333 00:21:33,000 --> 00:21:36,320 Speaker 2: in the league four years and being cut by two teams, 334 00:21:36,960 --> 00:21:39,880 Speaker 2: and so it's not like Jalen was a sixth round pick. 335 00:21:40,240 --> 00:21:46,120 Speaker 2: But I just think his footing is less certain than 336 00:21:46,280 --> 00:21:50,400 Speaker 2: most people tend to believe. And this article did not 337 00:21:50,520 --> 00:21:54,080 Speaker 2: do him or Sirianni any favors. All right, let's move 338 00:21:54,080 --> 00:21:55,119 Speaker 2: on to hoops real quick. 339 00:21:55,560 --> 00:21:57,040 Speaker 3: All right, So I'm gonna talk a little bit about 340 00:21:57,080 --> 00:22:00,080 Speaker 3: Lori marketing, but it's actually about Steph Curry, So just 341 00:22:00,119 --> 00:22:02,840 Speaker 3: walk with me here. After failing to complete a deal 342 00:22:02,880 --> 00:22:06,840 Speaker 3: with the Warriors, the Jazz extended marketing, Golden State wasn't 343 00:22:06,880 --> 00:22:10,560 Speaker 3: willing to include pods into any trades, So how should 344 00:22:10,560 --> 00:22:13,399 Speaker 3: Steph feel about them prioritizing the future instead of the 345 00:22:13,480 --> 00:22:14,280 Speaker 3: end of his career. 346 00:22:15,200 --> 00:22:17,679 Speaker 2: Well, yeah, so I thought, I think this is the 347 00:22:17,760 --> 00:22:23,680 Speaker 2: exact right angle. So I think that the Lurie Markinen 348 00:22:23,880 --> 00:22:29,399 Speaker 2: signing is actually a Warrior Steph Curry story because Mark, 349 00:22:29,480 --> 00:22:32,240 Speaker 2: it's not just that he signed the extension with Utah, 350 00:22:32,359 --> 00:22:35,920 Speaker 2: it's when he signed it. So he did what Lebron 351 00:22:35,960 --> 00:22:38,600 Speaker 2: did a couple of years ago, which is signed the 352 00:22:38,720 --> 00:22:45,280 Speaker 2: extension at a late enough date into the offseason where 353 00:22:45,280 --> 00:22:50,000 Speaker 2: he's untradable this year. When you sign an extension in 354 00:22:50,080 --> 00:22:54,720 Speaker 2: the NBA, you cannot be traded for six months. So 355 00:22:54,840 --> 00:22:58,480 Speaker 2: if you sign an extension or a free agent deal 356 00:22:58,680 --> 00:23:02,600 Speaker 2: at the beginning of free agency, you can be traded 357 00:23:02,760 --> 00:23:08,080 Speaker 2: in like January, right because of when he signed it, 358 00:23:08,840 --> 00:23:14,800 Speaker 2: those six months expire the day after the trade deadline, 359 00:23:15,280 --> 00:23:21,119 Speaker 2: so he's untradeable this entire season. That's why it's noteworthy 360 00:23:21,680 --> 00:23:25,119 Speaker 2: because the Warriors were in on marketing. A lot of 361 00:23:25,119 --> 00:23:28,760 Speaker 2: people thought they were gonna get marketing. They didn't, and 362 00:23:28,800 --> 00:23:31,280 Speaker 2: then people thought, Okay, well maybe they'll get him during 363 00:23:31,359 --> 00:23:35,800 Speaker 2: the year. Now it's impossible, no one can trade for 364 00:23:35,880 --> 00:23:40,400 Speaker 2: Lauri market in this season, which means the Warriors, much 365 00:23:40,560 --> 00:23:46,439 Speaker 2: like the Lakers, didn't get better. The Lakers did nothing. 366 00:23:46,920 --> 00:23:49,879 Speaker 2: The Warriors, you know, lost Clay and added some you 367 00:23:49,880 --> 00:23:57,199 Speaker 2: know pieces to replace him, but nothing significant. And so 368 00:23:58,240 --> 00:24:03,440 Speaker 2: I said briefly yesterday on the show Lurie Mark and 369 00:24:03,560 --> 00:24:07,440 Speaker 2: and signing his extension when he did, made it one 370 00:24:07,520 --> 00:24:11,359 Speaker 2: percent more likely that Stephan Lebron one day play together. 371 00:24:11,920 --> 00:24:16,879 Speaker 2: One percent because I just think that the war Steph 372 00:24:17,000 --> 00:24:20,280 Speaker 2: is going to have another frustrating year. And I think 373 00:24:20,359 --> 00:24:25,080 Speaker 2: these guys playing on Team USA man are like, especially 374 00:24:25,119 --> 00:24:29,960 Speaker 2: the older guys Steph, Lebron and KD are looking around saying, 375 00:24:30,080 --> 00:24:34,800 Speaker 2: we're still good enough, guys, and our teams aren't. The 376 00:24:35,000 --> 00:24:40,800 Speaker 2: Lakers are seemed just totally fine, standing pat because nobody 377 00:24:40,800 --> 00:24:44,320 Speaker 2: wants to make a big decision, because nobody wants accountability 378 00:24:44,320 --> 00:24:48,600 Speaker 2: for the decision. The Warriors sneakily are not trying to 379 00:24:48,600 --> 00:24:51,040 Speaker 2: spend a bunch of money, and now they have been. 380 00:24:51,240 --> 00:24:53,679 Speaker 2: They've spent more money than any team in the league 381 00:24:53,680 --> 00:24:56,800 Speaker 2: over the last decade, but now they're quietly trying to 382 00:24:56,840 --> 00:24:59,320 Speaker 2: pair that down. The Suns, on the other end, are 383 00:24:59,359 --> 00:25:01,199 Speaker 2: trying to do a lot, but they don't know what 384 00:25:01,200 --> 00:25:04,160 Speaker 2: they're doing. So those three guys are kind of stuck, 385 00:25:04,960 --> 00:25:07,240 Speaker 2: and I find it pretty fascinating. 386 00:25:07,840 --> 00:25:12,000 Speaker 3: If that was one with if that was plus one percent, 387 00:25:12,040 --> 00:25:14,720 Speaker 3: what is the percentage of Lebron and Curry playing together now. 388 00:25:17,600 --> 00:25:20,919 Speaker 2: One day in their careers? If I added one percent 389 00:25:21,000 --> 00:25:25,720 Speaker 2: to it, I'm gonna say it's now at sixteen percent. Okay, 390 00:25:25,840 --> 00:25:28,600 Speaker 2: one and six shot. It was at fifteen, Now it's 391 00:25:28,640 --> 00:25:31,399 Speaker 2: at sixteen a one in six shot. So roll a 392 00:25:31,480 --> 00:25:34,520 Speaker 2: die and see if you can call the number. That's 393 00:25:34,600 --> 00:25:36,800 Speaker 2: the odd that's the odds one and six. That's what 394 00:25:36,840 --> 00:25:37,160 Speaker 2: I think. 395 00:25:37,440 --> 00:25:40,760 Speaker 4: What else? Uh does Golden State looking down the road? 396 00:25:40,800 --> 00:25:42,960 Speaker 3: Do you think that has anything to do with Steph 397 00:25:43,080 --> 00:25:44,680 Speaker 3: kind of lacking in this Olympic run? 398 00:25:45,320 --> 00:25:50,119 Speaker 2: No, I don't buy that at all. And no, I 399 00:25:50,400 --> 00:25:52,200 Speaker 2: don't think that's it. I think that I think it's 400 00:25:52,200 --> 00:25:54,399 Speaker 2: a money thing. I honestly think it's a money thing. 401 00:25:54,440 --> 00:25:57,240 Speaker 2: Maybe I'm wrong. Maybe again, I'm not a reporter on 402 00:25:57,280 --> 00:25:59,800 Speaker 2: the ground there. But when the owner comes out and says, 403 00:26:00,000 --> 00:26:02,560 Speaker 2: our number of months ago, our number one goal is 404 00:26:02,600 --> 00:26:05,160 Speaker 2: to get under the tax kind of tells you it's 405 00:26:05,160 --> 00:26:08,800 Speaker 2: a money thing right now for them. And then what's 406 00:26:08,840 --> 00:26:09,480 Speaker 2: the last one? 407 00:26:10,000 --> 00:26:12,640 Speaker 3: If Vegas offered a bet like a step to end 408 00:26:12,640 --> 00:26:15,320 Speaker 3: his career as a warrior, yes or no? What would 409 00:26:15,359 --> 00:26:17,960 Speaker 3: the odds look like right now. 410 00:26:20,880 --> 00:26:31,080 Speaker 2: Minus three hundred yes, plus two eighty No. But that's 411 00:26:32,400 --> 00:26:35,879 Speaker 2: you know, it's one and four about that. He doesn't 412 00:26:36,480 --> 00:26:41,200 Speaker 2: that's the it's it's not nothing, guys, That's all I'm saying. 413 00:26:41,240 --> 00:26:43,560 Speaker 2: It's not nothing. Quick break right back? What's right? 414 00:26:50,040 --> 00:26:50,359 Speaker 4: All right? 415 00:26:50,400 --> 00:26:53,160 Speaker 2: Welcome back in what's right? With nick right demands? Let's 416 00:26:53,160 --> 00:26:56,639 Speaker 2: get to uh some dues and dons of camp fights 417 00:26:56,680 --> 00:26:58,919 Speaker 2: before we get to our game today. 418 00:26:59,560 --> 00:27:03,159 Speaker 3: Yes, with joint practices underway across the league, fights are 419 00:27:03,200 --> 00:27:05,720 Speaker 3: breaking out everywhere. It's not just from team to team, 420 00:27:05,760 --> 00:27:09,040 Speaker 3: it's even teammates. DK Metcalf tried to pull a Miles 421 00:27:09,040 --> 00:27:11,840 Speaker 3: Garrett on his teammates straight. I think he snatched one 422 00:27:11,840 --> 00:27:13,920 Speaker 3: of his teammates helmet off and try to hit another 423 00:27:13,960 --> 00:27:14,720 Speaker 3: teammate with it. 424 00:27:15,640 --> 00:27:16,680 Speaker 4: You're on the records. 425 00:27:17,040 --> 00:27:19,439 Speaker 3: You're on the record saying that you don't mind camp fights, 426 00:27:19,480 --> 00:27:21,760 Speaker 3: but you don't want receivers punching helmets. 427 00:27:22,320 --> 00:27:25,160 Speaker 4: So break it down. Were are some dudes and some don'ts. 428 00:27:26,000 --> 00:27:29,879 Speaker 2: Well, yeah, listen, the quarterback can never be involved. Daniel Jones, 429 00:27:29,920 --> 00:27:32,320 Speaker 2: your guy demons tried to get involved in a camp fight. 430 00:27:32,400 --> 00:27:37,480 Speaker 2: That's ridiculous. You can't use any weapons, and don't punch helmets. 431 00:27:38,359 --> 00:27:40,359 Speaker 2: You can see, you can slap, you can. 432 00:27:40,240 --> 00:27:43,760 Speaker 3: Do Daniel Jones my guy anymore. He's not what do 433 00:27:43,800 --> 00:27:44,960 Speaker 3: you mean he's my guy? 434 00:27:45,280 --> 00:27:51,439 Speaker 2: Oh you're abandoning him. But yeah, okay, fair enough. You 435 00:27:51,440 --> 00:27:54,919 Speaker 2: can do a Deacon Jones head slap to a helmet, 436 00:27:54,960 --> 00:27:57,479 Speaker 2: you can do a mush face. There are things you 437 00:27:57,560 --> 00:28:01,040 Speaker 2: but you can't punch helmets, you can't use helm's his weapons, 438 00:28:01,400 --> 00:28:05,159 Speaker 2: and you can't have your quarterback involved. It's actually, we 439 00:28:05,160 --> 00:28:07,240 Speaker 2: don't need to spend much time on it. Those are 440 00:28:07,240 --> 00:28:16,640 Speaker 2: the obvious rules. And don't if you're a fringe roster guy, 441 00:28:17,800 --> 00:28:20,320 Speaker 2: don't start a fight with a star on the team. 442 00:28:21,000 --> 00:28:26,119 Speaker 2: Just don't. It's just bad business. Okay, like the It's 443 00:28:26,240 --> 00:28:30,359 Speaker 2: just I understand wanting to show fight. There's different things. 444 00:28:30,600 --> 00:28:33,920 Speaker 2: You can maybe bait the star into starting a fight 445 00:28:34,000 --> 00:28:37,639 Speaker 2: with you, but you can't be the one to start 446 00:28:37,680 --> 00:28:39,760 Speaker 2: the fight with the star. Everybody knows this. All right, 447 00:28:39,840 --> 00:28:40,560 Speaker 2: let's play a game. 448 00:28:41,280 --> 00:28:44,200 Speaker 3: We're playing right in today. First off, we got chiefs 449 00:28:44,240 --> 00:28:46,600 Speaker 3: and Andy Reid. Andy Reid said that he's gonna he's 450 00:28:46,600 --> 00:28:49,120 Speaker 3: gonna play the starters for the first quarter versus the 451 00:28:49,200 --> 00:28:53,160 Speaker 3: Jaguars this weekend a Kansas City playing the Ones against Jacksonville. 452 00:28:53,360 --> 00:29:00,120 Speaker 2: Is I mean, here's the thing I don't understand, and 453 00:29:01,280 --> 00:29:06,760 Speaker 2: why more NFL teams don't say, Hey, what does Andy 454 00:29:06,880 --> 00:29:10,520 Speaker 2: Reid do in the preseason in training camp? Yeah, let's 455 00:29:10,520 --> 00:29:14,040 Speaker 2: go ahead and do that. The team that, aside from 456 00:29:14,120 --> 00:29:19,600 Speaker 2: last year, starts every year undefeated in September and is 457 00:29:19,640 --> 00:29:23,800 Speaker 2: more ready than everybody. And even before Mahomes got there, 458 00:29:24,280 --> 00:29:27,320 Speaker 2: you know what, came into the season in great shape 459 00:29:27,360 --> 00:29:31,320 Speaker 2: doing things. Why don't we do what he does. It's 460 00:29:31,600 --> 00:29:37,080 Speaker 2: baffling to me. More people, I just don't get it. 461 00:29:37,160 --> 00:29:40,960 Speaker 2: And I understand. It's like, well, Sean McVeigh sat everyone 462 00:29:41,200 --> 00:29:43,880 Speaker 2: in preseason years ago when they started eight. No, I 463 00:29:44,000 --> 00:29:48,840 Speaker 2: get that, and I'm not saying it's one size fits all. 464 00:29:49,160 --> 00:29:52,920 Speaker 2: What I am saying is the Chiefs run one of 465 00:29:52,960 --> 00:29:56,240 Speaker 2: the toughest training camps in football. They have the best 466 00:29:56,240 --> 00:29:59,640 Speaker 2: player in the league, he plays in the preseason and 467 00:29:59,680 --> 00:30:03,600 Speaker 2: it's seems to work. So I just don't understand why 468 00:30:03,680 --> 00:30:07,400 Speaker 2: more teams don't copy it. That's all. So Andy Reid 469 00:30:07,480 --> 00:30:11,200 Speaker 2: playing his starters in the preseason is the right move 470 00:30:11,760 --> 00:30:15,000 Speaker 2: because Andy's the best coach in the league. I just 471 00:30:15,000 --> 00:30:20,520 Speaker 2: just just like when for fifteen years Bill Belichick when 472 00:30:20,520 --> 00:30:22,400 Speaker 2: he was at the top of his game. You know 473 00:30:22,440 --> 00:30:26,360 Speaker 2: what he did in the draft traded down consistently. Oh 474 00:30:26,480 --> 00:30:30,200 Speaker 2: you desperately want the forty seventh pick, well give us 475 00:30:30,360 --> 00:30:33,280 Speaker 2: fifty six and one oh four and we'll do it. 476 00:30:33,720 --> 00:30:37,080 Speaker 2: Oh you desperately want the twenty eighth pick, well give 477 00:30:37,160 --> 00:30:40,520 Speaker 2: us thirty five and fifty eight and we'll do it. 478 00:30:41,520 --> 00:30:45,880 Speaker 2: And it and it worked. I just just figure out 479 00:30:46,000 --> 00:30:49,280 Speaker 2: who the best in the field are and copy what 480 00:30:49,360 --> 00:30:53,160 Speaker 2: they're doing. Is a pretty tried and true way to succeed. 481 00:30:53,240 --> 00:30:53,840 Speaker 2: Go ahead. 482 00:30:54,280 --> 00:30:57,040 Speaker 3: So before practice, the Chiefs were asked who the goat 483 00:30:57,400 --> 00:31:01,360 Speaker 3: basketball player was, and Lebron won that debate, but Montre 484 00:31:01,640 --> 00:31:04,040 Speaker 3: Washington said Carmelo Anthony was the vat. 485 00:31:04,600 --> 00:31:06,400 Speaker 4: Do you think was going on there? 486 00:31:06,440 --> 00:31:11,160 Speaker 2: Carmelo Anthony Edwards got one vote, Larry Bird got one vote. 487 00:31:11,440 --> 00:31:15,960 Speaker 2: But the story of this was Kobe got six, Mike 488 00:31:16,040 --> 00:31:21,240 Speaker 2: got seven, and Lebron got seventeen, which to which I'll say, 489 00:31:21,400 --> 00:31:25,720 Speaker 2: you're welcome, America. I mean the if you want to 490 00:31:25,800 --> 00:31:31,560 Speaker 2: see the impact my consistent dedication to truth and accuracy 491 00:31:32,000 --> 00:31:36,080 Speaker 2: in the most important debate in sports MJ Lebron the 492 00:31:36,160 --> 00:31:41,240 Speaker 2: impact it has well, A team full of kids who 493 00:31:41,720 --> 00:31:44,640 Speaker 2: never saw Mike play barely, you know, most of them 494 00:31:44,680 --> 00:31:50,120 Speaker 2: didn't see much of Kobe either, who happened to be 495 00:31:50,240 --> 00:31:53,000 Speaker 2: on a team that you know my TV show is 496 00:31:53,040 --> 00:31:58,600 Speaker 2: on quite often in the facility. Lebron won overwhelmingly. So 497 00:31:58,720 --> 00:32:01,920 Speaker 2: if you have any question about where that alleged debate 498 00:32:02,160 --> 00:32:04,920 Speaker 2: is headed, I think that was a pretty good indicator. 499 00:32:05,000 --> 00:32:06,640 Speaker 3: Now, what do you think the numbers would have been 500 00:32:06,680 --> 00:32:09,680 Speaker 3: five years ago? Would have been out around the same 501 00:32:09,760 --> 00:32:10,960 Speaker 3: or a lot different? 502 00:32:11,120 --> 00:32:11,560 Speaker 2: No? 503 00:32:11,560 --> 00:32:14,000 Speaker 4: No, no, no, no no different? Right, MJ? 504 00:32:14,160 --> 00:32:16,720 Speaker 2: By a what by a huge margin? Look at the 505 00:32:16,800 --> 00:32:20,120 Speaker 2: numbers after the last dance came out? But MJ fired 506 00:32:20,120 --> 00:32:26,160 Speaker 2: his last propaganda bullet and and it wasn't enough. All right. 507 00:32:26,280 --> 00:32:30,400 Speaker 3: Next, after calling Stefan Digs a great player, Josh Allen said, 508 00:32:30,440 --> 00:32:32,920 Speaker 3: I don't know if I'd say I miss him a 509 00:32:32,920 --> 00:32:36,560 Speaker 3: training camp. Between Alan and Diggs, who will miss who more? 510 00:32:37,600 --> 00:32:39,600 Speaker 2: All right? So I want to be fair, Josh Allen, 511 00:32:40,000 --> 00:32:43,400 Speaker 2: that's a truncated version of the quote. He said nice 512 00:32:43,440 --> 00:32:47,320 Speaker 2: things about Stefan Diggs, So I so, But to be honest, 513 00:32:48,120 --> 00:32:52,080 Speaker 2: I think Diggs will miss Allen more. And here's why, 514 00:32:53,360 --> 00:32:57,400 Speaker 2: because I think Allen was. I think Diggs can be 515 00:32:57,440 --> 00:33:01,120 Speaker 2: a lot, and I think it was he was okay 516 00:33:01,200 --> 00:33:05,280 Speaker 2: with him moving on. If you're Stefan Diggs, with every 517 00:33:05,320 --> 00:33:07,720 Speaker 2: year with Josh Allen, you were one of the most 518 00:33:07,760 --> 00:33:11,280 Speaker 2: targeted receivers in the league. You were clearly, without question, 519 00:33:11,400 --> 00:33:14,480 Speaker 2: the Bills number one receiver. You got all you got. 520 00:33:14,760 --> 00:33:17,960 Speaker 2: I think there's a good chance that Stefan Diggs is 521 00:33:18,000 --> 00:33:22,160 Speaker 2: the number three receiver for Houston. Nico Collins is the 522 00:33:22,280 --> 00:33:26,840 Speaker 2: number one, and if Tank Dell is healthy, he might 523 00:33:26,880 --> 00:33:29,680 Speaker 2: be the number two. So I think Diggs is gonna 524 00:33:29,720 --> 00:33:32,880 Speaker 2: miss Josh in that man, you knew you were getting 525 00:33:33,040 --> 00:33:36,760 Speaker 2: twelve ten, twelve targets a game. That's probably high eight 526 00:33:36,800 --> 00:33:39,400 Speaker 2: to ten targets a game, and that's not gonna be 527 00:33:39,440 --> 00:33:41,760 Speaker 2: the case anymore. Next uh. 528 00:33:41,920 --> 00:33:43,760 Speaker 3: During hard Knocks, the Bears thought it was a good 529 00:33:43,800 --> 00:33:46,920 Speaker 3: idea to teach their quarterbacks to slide using a slipping slide. 530 00:33:47,640 --> 00:33:50,760 Speaker 4: Totally logical. The Bear's quarterback slipping slide was. 531 00:33:52,440 --> 00:33:55,400 Speaker 2: It was one of the It was one of the 532 00:33:55,440 --> 00:34:00,000 Speaker 2: only times a slipping slide has looked fun other than 533 00:34:00,040 --> 00:34:04,360 Speaker 2: in the commercials there So this is I'm really gonna 534 00:34:04,400 --> 00:34:11,439 Speaker 2: pull on the heartstrings of millennials. There are two products that, 535 00:34:11,640 --> 00:34:18,759 Speaker 2: growing up in the commercial looked so elite and in 536 00:34:19,000 --> 00:34:25,400 Speaker 2: practice were a disaster. One I don't know what whosh is. 537 00:34:25,480 --> 00:34:25,799 Speaker 2: What's that? 538 00:34:28,320 --> 00:34:30,600 Speaker 4: This this ball that they showed on a commercial. 539 00:34:30,680 --> 00:34:33,120 Speaker 3: It looked like it levitated or whatever, and you like 540 00:34:33,600 --> 00:34:35,239 Speaker 3: and you got it and it did none of that. 541 00:34:35,320 --> 00:34:37,720 Speaker 3: But that you're probably talking about something that actually works 542 00:34:37,719 --> 00:34:38,719 Speaker 3: and wasn't like a. 543 00:34:38,800 --> 00:34:42,440 Speaker 2: T no, no, it was. It's something similar to that. 544 00:34:42,520 --> 00:34:46,680 Speaker 2: So I one was the slipping slide. The slipping slide 545 00:34:47,520 --> 00:34:52,880 Speaker 2: seemed amazing. In practice, you get it out in the yard. 546 00:34:54,160 --> 00:35:00,399 Speaker 2: Within minutes, it's just mud everywhere. You try to dive 547 00:35:00,480 --> 00:35:04,880 Speaker 2: on it, you hurt yourself. There's like rocks and roots 548 00:35:04,960 --> 00:35:05,920 Speaker 2: under the ground. 549 00:35:06,520 --> 00:35:06,960 Speaker 4: It does. 550 00:35:07,120 --> 00:35:12,080 Speaker 2: It rips awful. But in the commercials it looked amazing. 551 00:35:12,480 --> 00:35:14,480 Speaker 2: I want to see I don't know if we can 552 00:35:14,520 --> 00:35:17,279 Speaker 2: show on camera. Go to the producer's room because you're 553 00:35:17,280 --> 00:35:20,560 Speaker 2: too young for the other item, but I bet someone 554 00:35:20,600 --> 00:35:24,960 Speaker 2: in the room can guess it. The other thing that 555 00:35:25,080 --> 00:35:32,560 Speaker 2: looked amazing in the commercials but was just a ten 556 00:35:32,600 --> 00:35:36,200 Speaker 2: out of ten commercials one out of ten application. It 557 00:35:36,480 --> 00:35:40,840 Speaker 2: was a board game. It had a lot of bells 558 00:35:40,880 --> 00:35:46,440 Speaker 2: and whistles, a lot of moving parts, and it really mousetrap. 559 00:35:46,560 --> 00:35:52,680 Speaker 2: Good job, Daniel, that's exactly right. Mousetrap. The Mousetrap commercial. 560 00:35:53,120 --> 00:35:57,000 Speaker 2: It was like, holy shit, this is going to change 561 00:35:57,640 --> 00:36:02,959 Speaker 2: every sleepover I have. This is gonna be amazing. And 562 00:36:03,000 --> 00:36:07,160 Speaker 2: then you get it and putting it together is a 563 00:36:07,480 --> 00:36:10,840 Speaker 2: pain in the ass and none of that cool stuff happens. 564 00:36:11,640 --> 00:36:19,000 Speaker 2: So like those are those are mousetrap slipping slide. I'm 565 00:36:19,040 --> 00:36:24,400 Speaker 2: gonna add another one. Oh what was again? The producers 566 00:36:24,440 --> 00:36:30,080 Speaker 2: the millennials will help me. Hot wheels. Hot wheels were fine, 567 00:36:31,200 --> 00:36:35,359 Speaker 2: but the hot wheels tracks that really made it seem like, oh, 568 00:36:35,480 --> 00:36:39,600 Speaker 2: this thing is gonna be self subs gonna work. Cook, 569 00:36:40,040 --> 00:36:42,880 Speaker 2: it's gonna work like this. It's not gonna work like this. 570 00:36:44,360 --> 00:36:46,719 Speaker 2: The hot wheel cars were still cool. 571 00:36:47,440 --> 00:36:47,560 Speaker 4: Uh. 572 00:36:47,920 --> 00:36:50,400 Speaker 2: Sorry, this is a non sequent This is you know, 573 00:36:50,480 --> 00:36:52,520 Speaker 2: a bit of a tangent. But this is a great 574 00:36:53,280 --> 00:36:56,319 Speaker 2: I'm just trying to put in the listener comments other 575 00:36:56,600 --> 00:37:01,520 Speaker 2: items from your childhood that I'll give you another one 576 00:37:01,560 --> 00:37:06,200 Speaker 2: de monse and you might be old enough, just old 577 00:37:06,320 --> 00:37:12,440 Speaker 2: enough to have dealt with this. The wrestling action figures. 578 00:37:13,040 --> 00:37:15,000 Speaker 4: Oh yeah, so oh yeah. 579 00:37:15,000 --> 00:37:24,759 Speaker 2: Yeah the so right. So no, those were a big 580 00:37:24,840 --> 00:37:27,800 Speaker 2: part of my childhood as well, and maybe by the 581 00:37:27,880 --> 00:37:30,560 Speaker 2: time you were a kid, they were a little more 582 00:37:30,719 --> 00:37:33,959 Speaker 2: honest in the commercials, and maybe I was just dumb, 583 00:37:34,440 --> 00:37:37,440 Speaker 2: but in the commercials, it's like, oh, this guy, you 584 00:37:37,560 --> 00:37:40,279 Speaker 2: press this button, he does his finishing move on this 585 00:37:40,440 --> 00:37:43,880 Speaker 2: other guy. But I guess I didn't put together like 586 00:37:43,960 --> 00:37:46,360 Speaker 2: in order for that to work, it's gonna take a 587 00:37:46,480 --> 00:37:50,280 Speaker 2: couple minutes of like real you know, finagling of getting 588 00:37:50,360 --> 00:37:52,480 Speaker 2: them in the right spot and all of it. Those 589 00:37:52,600 --> 00:37:58,040 Speaker 2: commercials were elite, but nothing. Slip and Slide and and 590 00:37:58,280 --> 00:38:02,480 Speaker 2: Mousetrap were the two biggest fell for the banana and 591 00:38:02,560 --> 00:38:05,960 Speaker 2: the tailpipe of what you thought it was going to 592 00:38:06,040 --> 00:38:10,040 Speaker 2: be and then what it ultimately was. To answer the 593 00:38:10,160 --> 00:38:13,440 Speaker 2: question the Bear's slipping slide, I thought was actually smart. 594 00:38:13,800 --> 00:38:16,600 Speaker 2: I think teaching quarterbacks how to slide is smart. And 595 00:38:16,640 --> 00:38:19,200 Speaker 2: if they don't know how, we've all seen it when 596 00:38:19,200 --> 00:38:21,080 Speaker 2: a guy tries to slide and his foot gets caught 597 00:38:21,120 --> 00:38:24,080 Speaker 2: in the turf for something and it looks bad. So 598 00:38:24,160 --> 00:38:26,480 Speaker 2: I actually think that was smart. All right, we can 599 00:38:26,600 --> 00:38:27,000 Speaker 2: keep going. 600 00:38:28,040 --> 00:38:31,239 Speaker 3: Katie's legacy is one of the strangest in sports. To 601 00:38:31,400 --> 00:38:34,040 Speaker 3: add to it, he just passed Lisa Leslie to become 602 00:38:34,080 --> 00:38:36,440 Speaker 3: the all time leader in Team USA basketball points. 603 00:38:37,440 --> 00:38:39,440 Speaker 4: The first line of Katie's legacy will be. 604 00:38:40,760 --> 00:38:42,960 Speaker 2: One of the most talented players in NBA history and 605 00:38:43,040 --> 00:38:48,240 Speaker 2: one of the most gifted scorers who oddly didn't quite 606 00:38:49,080 --> 00:38:53,200 Speaker 2: have the team's success you would have expected for a 607 00:38:53,320 --> 00:38:58,120 Speaker 2: player of his caliber. But also is I said this 608 00:38:58,239 --> 00:39:02,200 Speaker 2: to Colin last night, Brews said something similar. If you 609 00:39:02,360 --> 00:39:05,840 Speaker 2: think of the twenty greatest players in league history, okay, 610 00:39:08,600 --> 00:39:13,960 Speaker 2: of all of them, Durant might be the number one 611 00:39:14,200 --> 00:39:21,560 Speaker 2: pick as far as can literally drop him on any 612 00:39:22,080 --> 00:39:28,320 Speaker 2: other great team in any other era, and it just 613 00:39:28,480 --> 00:39:32,120 Speaker 2: makes everyone better. Nobody has to take a back seat, 614 00:39:32,640 --> 00:39:36,480 Speaker 2: Nobody has to change their role, nobody all the other 615 00:39:37,120 --> 00:39:41,520 Speaker 2: You drop Magic on a great Lebron team, and Lebron's 616 00:39:41,560 --> 00:39:45,480 Speaker 2: got to adjust. You drop Michael on any of Kobe's teams, 617 00:39:45,560 --> 00:39:48,680 Speaker 2: and all of you know, Kobe's got to adjust. You 618 00:39:48,840 --> 00:39:53,040 Speaker 2: drop Shack on a Keem team, and obviously or vice versa, 619 00:39:54,080 --> 00:39:57,759 Speaker 2: think of any great team in NBA history and just 620 00:39:57,840 --> 00:40:01,120 Speaker 2: be like, we're dropping Kevin Durant on it. It's like, oh, 621 00:40:01,200 --> 00:40:05,359 Speaker 2: that works perfectly, and all their other stars can still 622 00:40:05,400 --> 00:40:08,400 Speaker 2: be stars, and he's just going to take over for 623 00:40:08,520 --> 00:40:12,360 Speaker 2: their worst starter at basically any spot and be great. 624 00:40:12,880 --> 00:40:15,920 Speaker 2: And that's why when you dropped him on the Warriors, 625 00:40:16,200 --> 00:40:18,719 Speaker 2: they became one of, if not the greatest team ever. 626 00:40:19,120 --> 00:40:22,279 Speaker 2: You drop him on Team USA in any environment, and 627 00:40:22,400 --> 00:40:24,440 Speaker 2: he looks like one of, if not the best guy 628 00:40:24,520 --> 00:40:29,720 Speaker 2: out there. All right, So let's go to the next one, please. 629 00:40:30,719 --> 00:40:30,919 Speaker 4: Yeah. 630 00:40:30,960 --> 00:40:33,600 Speaker 3: So Justin Fields is starting for the Steelers this weekend 631 00:40:33,640 --> 00:40:36,960 Speaker 3: as Russell Wilson deals with his CAF injury. Will he 632 00:40:37,080 --> 00:40:40,239 Speaker 3: take advantage of this opportunity? The Steelers QB one this 633 00:40:40,320 --> 00:40:41,000 Speaker 3: season will be. 634 00:40:42,360 --> 00:40:45,440 Speaker 2: I think Fields will start more games than Russ. Gary 635 00:40:45,600 --> 00:40:48,560 Speaker 2: Dulac from the Pittsburgh Post Gazette, I think is where 636 00:40:48,560 --> 00:40:53,160 Speaker 2: he is tweeted or reported yesterday that Russ is definitively 637 00:40:53,239 --> 00:40:56,319 Speaker 2: the Week one starter. I you know, I'm not there. 638 00:40:56,800 --> 00:40:59,840 Speaker 2: That's a hell of a report. That seems a little premature, 639 00:41:00,000 --> 00:41:02,120 Speaker 2: but it does seem like Russ is the likely Week 640 00:41:02,160 --> 00:41:08,120 Speaker 2: one starter. But I think that Fields will start more 641 00:41:08,200 --> 00:41:11,400 Speaker 2: games this year than Russell Wilson. And I'm told we 642 00:41:11,560 --> 00:41:19,080 Speaker 2: found demons officially abandoning Daniel Jones. Oh that Demonse won't 643 00:41:19,120 --> 00:41:22,840 Speaker 2: get that reference. That's from that. I think it's the 644 00:41:22,880 --> 00:41:26,680 Speaker 2: greatest movie ever made. I think that is. That is 645 00:41:26,760 --> 00:41:30,160 Speaker 2: my number with respect to The Godfather one and two. 646 00:41:32,280 --> 00:41:38,920 Speaker 2: Daniel Plainview is played by Daniel day Lewis, is an 647 00:41:39,200 --> 00:41:42,480 Speaker 2: oil man at the turn of the twentieth century, so 648 00:41:42,600 --> 00:41:48,279 Speaker 2: late eighteen hundreds, early nineteen hundreds, and he becomes one 649 00:41:48,320 --> 00:41:52,280 Speaker 2: of the richest, most powerful, successful people in the world 650 00:41:52,920 --> 00:42:01,640 Speaker 2: while being while being just an absolutely brutal person and 651 00:42:02,600 --> 00:42:07,320 Speaker 2: not good father. And in lockstep with it, there is 652 00:42:07,480 --> 00:42:15,560 Speaker 2: that guy Paul Dano who is a immoral preacher who 653 00:42:15,719 --> 00:42:19,279 Speaker 2: is trying to take advantage of the situation as well. 654 00:42:19,800 --> 00:42:21,759 Speaker 2: I'm not giving I mean that is the very I. 655 00:42:21,760 --> 00:42:24,080 Speaker 4: Feel like I've seen you watched that movie before something. 656 00:42:24,200 --> 00:42:26,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, for some reason, definitely, I mean I probably watched 657 00:42:27,000 --> 00:42:29,919 Speaker 2: it ten times. I think it's the best movie ever made. 658 00:42:30,360 --> 00:42:32,520 Speaker 2: Uh So that's a good photoshop. All right, we'll do 659 00:42:32,640 --> 00:42:41,600 Speaker 2: some listener questions next. What's right? Welcome back in? What's driving? 660 00:42:41,680 --> 00:42:44,000 Speaker 2: Nick right? Demanse, Let's do some listener questions. 661 00:42:44,640 --> 00:42:48,000 Speaker 3: Shane Stutter a best restaurant to visit while in Casey 662 00:42:48,200 --> 00:42:50,480 Speaker 3: from our friend's wedding this September. 663 00:42:50,880 --> 00:42:52,080 Speaker 4: His wedding is the day after. 664 00:42:52,280 --> 00:42:54,719 Speaker 3: Kansas City versus balt So, if you're in town or 665 00:42:54,920 --> 00:42:57,839 Speaker 3: Kansas City versus Baltimore, So if you're if you're in town, 666 00:42:57,840 --> 00:42:59,319 Speaker 3: I'd like to invite you to his wedding. 667 00:42:59,440 --> 00:43:01,720 Speaker 2: Jesus all right, Well, I don't think you can invite 668 00:43:01,760 --> 00:43:04,600 Speaker 2: someone to me someone else's wedding, but I appreciate it. 669 00:43:04,640 --> 00:43:09,120 Speaker 2: I don't think I'm gonna be in town. Sadly listen 670 00:43:09,280 --> 00:43:15,800 Speaker 2: for amazing pan fried chicken and amazing giant fried shrimp 671 00:43:16,600 --> 00:43:19,520 Speaker 2: and the best chicken noodle soup you've ever had Strouds. 672 00:43:21,640 --> 00:43:24,879 Speaker 2: The Strouds was a place I used to take make 673 00:43:24,920 --> 00:43:26,400 Speaker 2: them on. I don't know if you liked it or not, 674 00:43:26,520 --> 00:43:28,960 Speaker 2: but I used to. Your mom didn't like it, so 675 00:43:29,120 --> 00:43:30,359 Speaker 2: you and I would go a lot. 676 00:43:32,200 --> 00:43:35,239 Speaker 3: There's also aid chicken is different. There's a different type 677 00:43:35,280 --> 00:43:37,960 Speaker 3: of cadence to their It's. 678 00:43:37,840 --> 00:43:41,040 Speaker 2: Good because it's not well, that's why it's called it's 679 00:43:41,160 --> 00:43:44,839 Speaker 2: pan fried instead of being deep fried. So deep fried 680 00:43:44,920 --> 00:43:47,839 Speaker 2: you dip the whole thing in grease. Pan fried it's 681 00:43:47,880 --> 00:43:49,920 Speaker 2: in a pan with grease and you do it like that. 682 00:43:50,360 --> 00:43:53,279 Speaker 2: So it is very different and I love it. There 683 00:43:53,400 --> 00:43:57,279 Speaker 2: was also do you mind, Demanse, if I tell this? 684 00:43:57,480 --> 00:43:58,960 Speaker 2: I don't even know if you remember. If I tell 685 00:43:59,040 --> 00:44:00,480 Speaker 2: the story about when you and I were going to 686 00:44:00,560 --> 00:44:02,840 Speaker 2: Strouds and we got pulled over by the cop. Do 687 00:44:02,960 --> 00:44:05,320 Speaker 2: you remember this? You might beat you. You might have 688 00:44:05,360 --> 00:44:11,480 Speaker 2: memoried of this is so Demanse was like twelve, and 689 00:44:13,640 --> 00:44:18,720 Speaker 2: I so if Demonse was twelve. I'm twenty six, twenty seven, 690 00:44:20,600 --> 00:44:26,640 Speaker 2: and we're driving to Strouds late on a Sunday, and 691 00:44:26,880 --> 00:44:30,080 Speaker 2: right before we pull up, we get pulled over. I 692 00:44:30,120 --> 00:44:33,560 Speaker 2: get pulled over for speeding on Shawnee Mission Parkway. 693 00:44:34,320 --> 00:44:34,400 Speaker 4: And. 694 00:44:36,280 --> 00:44:45,520 Speaker 2: The cop came over and was nice but inquisitive. Where 695 00:44:45,520 --> 00:44:46,279 Speaker 2: are you guys going? 696 00:44:47,040 --> 00:44:47,759 Speaker 4: What are you doing? 697 00:44:48,760 --> 00:44:51,520 Speaker 2: I'm like, oh, I'm just taking my son to dinner. 698 00:44:52,080 --> 00:44:57,040 Speaker 2: And again, me twenty six, demands twelve, and I'm not 699 00:44:57,320 --> 00:45:01,160 Speaker 2: gonna like explain the you know, in that moment, I 700 00:45:01,200 --> 00:45:03,839 Speaker 2: said him taking my son dinner, and the cop didn't 701 00:45:03,840 --> 00:45:06,840 Speaker 2: believe me, but also didn't want to be he was 702 00:45:07,000 --> 00:45:09,920 Speaker 2: not being he was actually being nice, but I think 703 00:45:10,200 --> 00:45:16,880 Speaker 2: was concerned about this child's welfare. And it's so funny 704 00:45:16,920 --> 00:45:19,440 Speaker 2: you don't remember it. He then came back to the 705 00:45:19,520 --> 00:45:23,160 Speaker 2: car and asked me. He was like, hey, do you 706 00:45:23,239 --> 00:45:25,759 Speaker 2: mind stepping out of the car for a moment. And 707 00:45:25,840 --> 00:45:27,520 Speaker 2: I was like yeah, and I don't think you knew 708 00:45:27,560 --> 00:45:31,600 Speaker 2: anything weird was going on. So I step out of 709 00:45:31,800 --> 00:45:34,759 Speaker 2: I step out of the car. I step out of 710 00:45:34,800 --> 00:45:37,799 Speaker 2: the car, and I see him walk over to your 711 00:45:37,920 --> 00:45:41,400 Speaker 2: window and say two words to you or ten words 712 00:45:41,480 --> 00:45:44,000 Speaker 2: to you. Then he gives me my ticket and he's like, 713 00:45:44,000 --> 00:45:47,160 Speaker 2: all right, you're good. And when I asked you and 714 00:45:47,280 --> 00:45:48,920 Speaker 2: I was like, what was that And he was like, 715 00:45:48,960 --> 00:45:50,560 Speaker 2: he just asked me what we were doing. I told 716 00:45:50,640 --> 00:45:54,680 Speaker 2: him we were going to dinner, like okay. So then 717 00:45:54,760 --> 00:45:58,200 Speaker 2: you and I go to dinner at Stroud's and at 718 00:45:58,239 --> 00:46:02,440 Speaker 2: the end of the meal, uh, I asked for the 719 00:46:02,600 --> 00:46:07,440 Speaker 2: check and the waiter comes over and says, now you remember. 720 00:46:07,239 --> 00:46:07,840 Speaker 4: Yeah, I remember. 721 00:46:07,840 --> 00:46:13,560 Speaker 2: The waiter comes over and says, really weird, this cop 722 00:46:13,800 --> 00:46:20,239 Speaker 2: came in and paid for your meal but asked us 723 00:46:20,320 --> 00:46:23,520 Speaker 2: not to say anything to you. So this, you know, 724 00:46:24,040 --> 00:46:29,640 Speaker 2: this officer was skeptical and I think a little concerned 725 00:46:30,360 --> 00:46:34,719 Speaker 2: about you know, this demands this kid's welfare, And then 726 00:46:34,960 --> 00:46:38,640 Speaker 2: saw that we were being honest and like, not just weird, 727 00:46:38,719 --> 00:46:41,000 Speaker 2: being honest, but that everything was fine, and I think 728 00:46:41,120 --> 00:46:44,840 Speaker 2: felt bad about it and paid for our meal. So 729 00:46:45,040 --> 00:46:48,040 Speaker 2: I I remember that like vividly, that whole thing, and 730 00:46:48,080 --> 00:46:51,640 Speaker 2: I couldn't and I still I almost wish like there 731 00:46:51,760 --> 00:46:54,959 Speaker 2: was something. I never saw that cop again obviously or whatever. 732 00:46:55,320 --> 00:46:58,160 Speaker 2: And you know, I have a lot of criticisms of 733 00:46:58,800 --> 00:47:01,520 Speaker 2: policing in America and stuff like that, but that was 734 00:47:02,080 --> 00:47:06,880 Speaker 2: I thought, every single thing that officer did and without 735 00:47:06,920 --> 00:47:10,000 Speaker 2: a side paying for the meal, which is obviously right, 736 00:47:10,120 --> 00:47:12,880 Speaker 2: exactly right, paying for the meals above and beyond it. 737 00:47:13,160 --> 00:47:15,200 Speaker 2: But it was I thought he handled all of it right. 738 00:47:15,280 --> 00:47:18,680 Speaker 2: He had a funny feeling, but he also didn't want to, 739 00:47:19,600 --> 00:47:23,120 Speaker 2: you know, overreact to it. But he also didn't like 740 00:47:23,239 --> 00:47:26,839 Speaker 2: the idea of just leaving it being so he went 741 00:47:26,920 --> 00:47:32,279 Speaker 2: above and beyond. Yeah. So so Strouds for that. The 742 00:47:33,520 --> 00:47:40,520 Speaker 2: it's for barbecue Stroud Over, Yeah, for barbecue, for sit 743 00:47:40,640 --> 00:47:44,480 Speaker 2: down barbecue, Jack Stack uh for more kind of hole 744 00:47:44,560 --> 00:47:47,719 Speaker 2: in the wall or authentic barbecue. Every place is great. 745 00:47:47,800 --> 00:47:51,719 Speaker 2: People love Kansas City or Joe's Kansas City. I'm an 746 00:47:51,840 --> 00:47:55,400 Speaker 2: Arthur Bryant's guy. Obviously, Gates is super famous and for 747 00:47:55,600 --> 00:47:59,480 Speaker 2: like fancy uh the place that my wife and I 748 00:47:59,520 --> 00:48:03,560 Speaker 2: got in age Paropos, the lamb chops and the pork 749 00:48:03,640 --> 00:48:07,960 Speaker 2: chops at Propos are elite, elite, elite and for good 750 00:48:08,120 --> 00:48:11,879 Speaker 2: kind of sweet Southern Italian Anthony's on grand Those would 751 00:48:11,920 --> 00:48:13,239 Speaker 2: be my recommendations, all right. 752 00:48:13,360 --> 00:48:16,839 Speaker 4: Next, uh, Sean just kills Nick. 753 00:48:17,000 --> 00:48:20,360 Speaker 3: If you are approached by by celebrity Jeopardy to complete 754 00:48:20,400 --> 00:48:24,399 Speaker 3: against Bamani, Mina and Pablo, do you think you're walking 755 00:48:24,440 --> 00:48:24,960 Speaker 3: out on top? 756 00:48:26,880 --> 00:48:34,520 Speaker 2: Oh? Wow? So favorite in that? Yeah? So Pablo went 757 00:48:34,640 --> 00:48:40,320 Speaker 2: to Harvard, Mina went to Yale. Bamani went to college 758 00:48:40,400 --> 00:48:45,000 Speaker 2: at sixteen and got a master's from North Carolina around 759 00:48:45,040 --> 00:48:51,080 Speaker 2: the age of twenty. If I'm being honest, the favorite 760 00:48:51,239 --> 00:48:58,400 Speaker 2: in that is Bomani. I think because Bamani has such 761 00:48:58,480 --> 00:49:05,680 Speaker 2: a random assortment of knowledge and facts, I obviously would 762 00:49:05,960 --> 00:49:09,440 Speaker 2: mop the floor with my two rivals, meaning Pablo. I mean, 763 00:49:09,480 --> 00:49:13,320 Speaker 2: that's that's obvious. But I do think Bomani's the favorite. 764 00:49:13,440 --> 00:49:18,120 Speaker 3: Next, Kine Templar. Do you think lebron kd and Steph 765 00:49:18,160 --> 00:49:20,719 Speaker 3: should running back in four years to secure golden three 766 00:49:20,840 --> 00:49:21,680 Speaker 3: v three basketball? 767 00:49:22,680 --> 00:49:25,880 Speaker 2: So evidently the rules of three on three basketball are weird, 768 00:49:26,440 --> 00:49:29,040 Speaker 2: like as far as if you're allowed to play like 769 00:49:29,280 --> 00:49:31,560 Speaker 2: FOEBA has it set up to where you have to 770 00:49:31,680 --> 00:49:34,560 Speaker 2: play in a lot of these three on three qualifiers 771 00:49:34,640 --> 00:49:37,680 Speaker 2: and get points and those. That's why we can't just 772 00:49:37,840 --> 00:49:40,560 Speaker 2: send our best players like. 773 00:49:40,680 --> 00:49:43,800 Speaker 4: You have to be like on the three on three process. 774 00:49:44,680 --> 00:49:48,279 Speaker 2: Yeah and so so I obviously, yes, I think that 775 00:49:48,400 --> 00:49:52,239 Speaker 2: we could dominate that if we sent NBA guys, but 776 00:49:52,360 --> 00:49:54,160 Speaker 2: they don't want us doing that. They want you to 777 00:49:54,239 --> 00:49:56,439 Speaker 2: be like a real three on three team. 778 00:49:57,400 --> 00:50:03,800 Speaker 3: Next Artist Matthews is Jalen Hurts just another Carson Wentz 779 00:50:04,360 --> 00:50:07,240 Speaker 3: never really that good, just average, but has one season 780 00:50:07,320 --> 00:50:10,439 Speaker 3: that he looks awesome like Wentz has had his moment 781 00:50:10,480 --> 00:50:13,800 Speaker 3: in twenty seventeen in the twenty seventeen season before injury. 782 00:50:14,920 --> 00:50:19,960 Speaker 2: So I that to me, it's way too early to 783 00:50:20,080 --> 00:50:24,800 Speaker 2: say that, but that is the comp of concern that 784 00:50:25,040 --> 00:50:27,080 Speaker 2: now Wins was second big of the draft. Was from 785 00:50:27,120 --> 00:50:29,359 Speaker 2: a small school where a guy for a full year 786 00:50:30,160 --> 00:50:33,600 Speaker 2: plays at an MVP level but is never able to 787 00:50:33,680 --> 00:50:36,360 Speaker 2: capture anything like that again and didn't look like that before. 788 00:50:36,760 --> 00:50:39,759 Speaker 2: That is the concern. So I'm not ready to say that, 789 00:50:39,920 --> 00:50:42,799 Speaker 2: but you can't dismiss it as a possibility. 790 00:50:43,719 --> 00:50:48,759 Speaker 3: Next, Doctor turk nerf guns were always doctor Turf okayc 791 00:50:49,120 --> 00:50:50,760 Speaker 3: NERF guns were always overrated. 792 00:50:50,800 --> 00:50:54,359 Speaker 4: To be honest, super soakers too. I loved both of those. 793 00:50:54,480 --> 00:50:57,680 Speaker 2: So yeah, we were big NERF gun We still have 794 00:50:58,440 --> 00:51:02,200 Speaker 2: in our basement and like a big plastic toy chest. 795 00:51:02,640 --> 00:51:06,279 Speaker 2: We still have all of Demons's NERF guns. We were 796 00:51:06,320 --> 00:51:09,719 Speaker 2: a big NERF gun family. The NERF gun thing is 797 00:51:10,120 --> 00:51:14,800 Speaker 2: you just can't be cheap on bullet acquisition. You just 798 00:51:14,840 --> 00:51:17,040 Speaker 2: have to be fine with even if this thing only 799 00:51:17,120 --> 00:51:20,640 Speaker 2: shoots six, I'm gonna have three hundred of them because 800 00:51:20,680 --> 00:51:22,920 Speaker 2: what can ruin a NERF gun war is like, oh, 801 00:51:22,920 --> 00:51:25,000 Speaker 2: I gotta go pick up these bullets and re you 802 00:51:25,080 --> 00:51:26,640 Speaker 2: just gotta have a bunch of Is. 803 00:51:26,680 --> 00:51:30,000 Speaker 3: A video out there on YouTube somewhere of me brandishing 804 00:51:30,040 --> 00:51:33,680 Speaker 3: all my NERF guns collection like I was probably really 805 00:51:33,760 --> 00:51:34,560 Speaker 3: fifteen years old. 806 00:51:35,160 --> 00:51:39,200 Speaker 4: Yeah, oh that's fun. I was in love with them. 807 00:51:41,400 --> 00:51:46,520 Speaker 3: All right, go ahead, Ron Desk. Power wheels waiting twelve 808 00:51:46,560 --> 00:51:48,080 Speaker 3: hours for thirty minutes of play. 809 00:51:48,360 --> 00:51:49,759 Speaker 4: I don't know what power wheels are. 810 00:51:50,640 --> 00:51:55,440 Speaker 2: So power wheels that that's what I was writing. When 811 00:51:55,480 --> 00:51:58,200 Speaker 2: I was like five or six and my sister pushed 812 00:51:58,239 --> 00:52:00,000 Speaker 2: me off the back and I snapped my collar bone. 813 00:52:00,360 --> 00:52:03,920 Speaker 2: So power wheels demands are the little cars that you 814 00:52:04,040 --> 00:52:06,359 Speaker 2: see little kids driving around on the side. 815 00:52:06,480 --> 00:52:08,279 Speaker 4: Okay, I guess I've just never done what they were called. 816 00:52:08,440 --> 00:52:11,799 Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, yeah, so so yeah, I mean I think 817 00:52:11,880 --> 00:52:16,320 Speaker 2: that I think those were awesome. I think those apparently, 818 00:52:17,080 --> 00:52:19,160 Speaker 2: I guess I don't. I don't have a recollection of that, 819 00:52:19,239 --> 00:52:21,160 Speaker 2: but that makes sense. You can only you know, charge 820 00:52:21,200 --> 00:52:26,239 Speaker 2: the battery for so long. So the Danny Tanner says, 821 00:52:26,280 --> 00:52:30,239 Speaker 2: the easy bake oven, I buy that, but I don't. 822 00:52:30,280 --> 00:52:32,880 Speaker 2: I didn't have one moonstand I know what that is. 823 00:52:33,320 --> 00:52:36,759 Speaker 2: Anything slime related, I totally agree. And you were the 824 00:52:36,960 --> 00:52:40,400 Speaker 2: DOORA had a massive slime phase and Deanna is in 825 00:52:40,480 --> 00:52:43,399 Speaker 2: the midst of it right now of like still wanting 826 00:52:43,480 --> 00:52:45,520 Speaker 2: to do slime slim slime. I hate it, all right do. 827 00:52:45,760 --> 00:52:46,720 Speaker 2: LJ from Htown. 828 00:52:47,480 --> 00:52:50,360 Speaker 3: LJ from Ahetown says, Hey, Nick, do you think Mahomes 829 00:52:50,400 --> 00:52:51,240 Speaker 3: will break Brady? 830 00:52:51,800 --> 00:52:52,200 Speaker 4: Will break? 831 00:52:52,239 --> 00:52:56,799 Speaker 3: Brady consecutive AFC Championship Games, eight consecutive from twenty eleven 832 00:52:56,840 --> 00:52:57,560 Speaker 3: to twenty eighteen. 833 00:52:58,920 --> 00:53:03,080 Speaker 2: I mean, listen, that's so it can't be dismissed. I 834 00:53:03,200 --> 00:53:06,920 Speaker 2: would have told you five years ago that that streak 835 00:53:07,200 --> 00:53:12,000 Speaker 2: is more unbreakable than seven Super Bowls is eight years 836 00:53:12,160 --> 00:53:17,040 Speaker 2: straight making the final four is wild. What works against 837 00:53:17,239 --> 00:53:22,560 Speaker 2: Mahomes on that is the fact that the NFL changed 838 00:53:22,560 --> 00:53:24,879 Speaker 2: it to where instead of two buys, there's only one. 839 00:53:25,640 --> 00:53:28,239 Speaker 2: So Brady almost every year was the one or the 840 00:53:28,360 --> 00:53:30,880 Speaker 2: two seed. So to make the AFC Title game, you 841 00:53:31,040 --> 00:53:32,960 Speaker 2: just had to win one home playoff game and you're there. 842 00:53:33,320 --> 00:53:38,040 Speaker 2: Since they switched it to only one by it now 843 00:53:38,360 --> 00:53:41,359 Speaker 2: most years, even if you're thirteen and four, you might 844 00:53:41,480 --> 00:53:43,320 Speaker 2: end up having to win two playoff games, So that 845 00:53:43,400 --> 00:53:46,480 Speaker 2: makes it harder. But I mean, Mahomes' worst year of 846 00:53:46,560 --> 00:53:49,239 Speaker 2: his career is losing an overtime in the AFC title game, 847 00:53:49,320 --> 00:53:52,879 Speaker 2: so right now it feels like a good bet he'll 848 00:53:52,960 --> 00:53:56,239 Speaker 2: break it. But man, it's just that's so hard. It's 849 00:53:56,400 --> 00:53:59,680 Speaker 2: so hard to just to every single year be a 850 00:53:59,760 --> 00:54:01,480 Speaker 2: game from the super Bowl or closer. 851 00:54:02,080 --> 00:54:06,520 Speaker 3: All right, last one, Malik, Is there any position on 852 00:54:06,600 --> 00:54:09,400 Speaker 3: an NFL roster that you feel like is underrated or 853 00:54:09,440 --> 00:54:11,880 Speaker 3: doesn't get the attention that it deserves. 854 00:54:12,239 --> 00:54:16,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, punter. I would be a guy that spends draft 855 00:54:16,200 --> 00:54:22,359 Speaker 2: picks on my special teamers. I think that a if 856 00:54:22,440 --> 00:54:28,120 Speaker 2: you truly can have a super elite punter, it is 857 00:54:28,200 --> 00:54:31,719 Speaker 2: a real weapon, and I think they're underpaid and undervalued. 858 00:54:31,800 --> 00:54:37,920 Speaker 2: Everyone knows kicker is super you know, is super important 859 00:54:38,239 --> 00:54:41,920 Speaker 2: people because people think about it. But the ability to 860 00:54:42,080 --> 00:54:45,759 Speaker 2: consistently pin a team back and affect how they call 861 00:54:45,880 --> 00:54:50,360 Speaker 2: offense is I think an underrated thing in the NFL. 862 00:54:50,360 --> 00:54:53,360 Speaker 2: All right, this was a fun show. We got shows 863 00:54:53,440 --> 00:54:56,279 Speaker 2: next week and then we're on vacation for a week, 864 00:54:56,360 --> 00:54:59,400 Speaker 2: so I'll see you guys. Listen, try to watch some 865 00:54:59,560 --> 00:55:02,120 Speaker 2: of the TV show today. I know USA Servia is on, 866 00:55:02,320 --> 00:55:06,080 Speaker 2: but check it out a case. We'd appreciate it. Thanks Demanse, 867 00:55:06,200 --> 00:55:09,719 Speaker 2: appreciate you. See you guys next week. What's right? Hey, 868 00:55:10,160 --> 00:55:12,760 Speaker 2: thanks for watching. If you're still here, do me a favor. 869 00:55:13,200 --> 00:55:15,759 Speaker 2: Hit the subscribe button, then hit the bell so you 870 00:55:15,800 --> 00:55:19,200 Speaker 2: can be notified when we have new episodes. After you've 871 00:55:19,280 --> 00:55:21,800 Speaker 2: done that, one more favor, go to your favorite audio 872 00:55:21,920 --> 00:55:25,560 Speaker 2: platform of choice and subscribe there as well. Don't forget 873 00:55:26,040 --> 00:55:30,000 Speaker 2: we're live every Tuesday and Thursday ten thirty am Eastern 874 00:55:30,360 --> 00:55:33,680 Speaker 2: Ish ten thirty five, ten forty. 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