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Speaker 3: This is our life, this is our passion. That's the

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Speaker 1: This this Morning Combat. It's the ninth of February twenty twenty,

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Speaker 1: and it is time on this hump day for Morning Combat.

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Speaker 1: That was really awful the way I did that, and

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Speaker 1: pretty gross. Hi everyone, my name is Luke Thomas. I

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Speaker 1: am merely one half of your hosting duo. I join

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Speaker 1: you from the Capitol host with status needles right here

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Speaker 1: in Washington, DC, joined as always by the Viceroy, the

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Speaker 1: Prince until lever To Cherrel loses the title of Connecticut

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Speaker 1: my friend and yours. It's Brian Campbell. Hello, Brian Campbell.

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Speaker 3: Luke, welcome back to MK. This is my favorite place

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Speaker 3: to be. I love it. Look should we I'm like,

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Speaker 3: how many more seconds on this show should we waste

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Speaker 3: before we announced that? You know, Bengals starting quarterback Joe Burrow,

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Speaker 3: mean that's not that's not that's not bad development.

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Speaker 1: Right, that's a pretty great development. The question is do

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Speaker 3: See, I was thinking differently. I was like, Okay, how

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Speaker 1: Are you so? So? That's okay. We've talked about this

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Speaker 2: Because that's because that's what men do. Luke, Okay, come on.

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Speaker 1: That's what that's what that's what cuts do. But it's okay,

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Speaker 1: here answered reddle me this now that Joe Burrow follows

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Speaker 3: I mean, I didn't give a shit until this Luke.

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Speaker 1: Right, listen, whatever it takes, whatever it takes. As always,

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Speaker 1: By the way, we skipped this last time, BC, or

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Speaker 1: combat sports podcast. Now. I know we were in the

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Speaker 3: Absolutely, there's no doubt about that. I mean, we're ridiculously quick.

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Speaker 3: drunk on that wine, Luke. Okay. You know, suddenly you

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Speaker 3: I get you can get, Luke.

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Speaker 1: And then you're teaching you're teaching English in France.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and it's a great point. And also the point

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Speaker 3: They really don't look they they really don't ever and

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Speaker 1: the fight itself. BC. Now you spoke to Robert Whitaker.

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Speaker 2: Absolutely, that's the number.

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Speaker 3: That's the biggest takeaway by far, because Luke, you know,

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Speaker 1: Let's play the clip. This is Robert Whitaker describing for

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Speaker 3: Well, you're refurbished in so many ways, and I give

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Speaker 3: But but this one's gotta be different. Man, You've got

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Speaker 4: No, and you see that's I think that's the biggest

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Speaker 3: Okay, So then what was your mindset the first fight?

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Speaker 4: It was it was personal, it was it was Yeah,

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Speaker 1: It's so interesting that, Yeah, he says that this WAYBC.

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Speaker 1: It's a great interview. And by the way, here's what

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Speaker 1: I definitely think it's going to benefit Robert Whitaker.

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Speaker 3: I think that's a great point because it's something I

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Speaker 2: So it is interesting.

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Speaker 3: I don't I don't think I look back on that

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Speaker 1: talked about it before, he was just executing against Kannoneir,

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Speaker 1: but Cannon Iir kind of rallied a little bit late

433
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Speaker 1: and he had to figure out a way to do it.

434
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Speaker 1: And then you know, just sort of keeping a pace

435
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Speaker 1: and really just outclassing Kelvin Gaslom. All of these performances,

436
00:20:26,880 --> 00:20:28,439
Speaker 1: and you can go before that as well, but certainly

437
00:20:28,480 --> 00:20:30,960
Speaker 1: those sins, the loss all indicate what we already knew,

438
00:20:31,320 --> 00:20:36,440
Speaker 1: high ability, high functioning, not a in those cases doesn't

439
00:20:36,480 --> 00:20:38,280
Speaker 1: make hardly any mistakes. And I thought he made a

440
00:20:38,320 --> 00:20:41,080
Speaker 1: bunch of mistakes in the fight with Adasanya, which tells

441
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Speaker 1: you a otta SNI is a great fighter. But also

442
00:20:43,359 --> 00:20:48,280
Speaker 1: that Whittaker he was just uncharacteristically hurried and aggressive, and

443
00:20:48,320 --> 00:20:51,000
Speaker 1: like it was due as Derek brunsoning himself, the old

444
00:20:51,040 --> 00:20:53,200
Speaker 1: version of Derek Brunson, and that's why it's like, dude,

445
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Speaker 1: I don't think he's gonna do that again. That doesn't

446
00:20:55,359 --> 00:20:58,760
Speaker 1: mean he'll win necessarily, but by itself that was a

447
00:20:58,760 --> 00:20:59,240
Speaker 1: big tell.

448
00:20:59,359 --> 00:21:03,800
Speaker 3: Now that People's bank commercial that somebody had played through

449
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Speaker 3: their laptop into our into our uh into our stream.

450
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Speaker 3: I didn't get to hear the last twenties or thirty

451
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Speaker 3: seconds of you, but I think I know where you're.

452
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Speaker 1: Going fair enough. Well, either way, it doesn't matter. But

453
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Speaker 1: let's go to the next clip. Whittaker also talked about

454
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Speaker 1: the changes since Israel outa Sognia. Both of them are

455
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Speaker 1: not the same fighters they were the first time around.

456
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Speaker 1: What does Whittaker see differently in his opponent? This is

457
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Speaker 1: what he told Brian.

458
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Speaker 3: You look at this fight. I see the ways that

459
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Speaker 3: you have improved or evolved in your wind streak since

460
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Speaker 3: the first out of Signia fight. Do you think he

461
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Speaker 3: has added enough through wins and losses in that same time.

462
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Speaker 4: To keep up with me and my skill set?

463
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Speaker 3: Yeah?

464
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Speaker 2: I mean pretty quick, man.

465
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Speaker 4: I don't think. I think my skill sets much more

466
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Speaker 4: diverse than his, and I think I'm a better fighter.

467
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Speaker 1: I do, honestly do.

468
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Speaker 4: Otherwise I would be fighting him if I didn't have

469
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Speaker 4: that confidence and believe that I could beat him. And yeah,

470
00:22:02,520 --> 00:22:04,600
Speaker 4: you know, I look to showcase that on the weekend.

471
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Speaker 2: He's a badass, Luke. That's what I love.

472
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Speaker 3: That's part of what I love about this incredibly great

473
00:22:14,200 --> 00:22:17,040
Speaker 3: fight is is I love both the characters of both

474
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Speaker 3: the personalities, the way they project themselves. They're they're obviously,

475
00:22:21,119 --> 00:22:25,400
Speaker 3: you know, drastically different, drastically different, but I love both

476
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Speaker 3: these guys man, and I really think we're on You're

477
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Speaker 3: on your way to seeing both of these guys turn

478
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Speaker 3: into all time greats when it's all said and done.

479
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Speaker 2: So this is a special moment because of that.

480
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Speaker 1: Let's follow up on hut A sign here for a

481
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Speaker 1: little bit. He told ESPN's Brett Komodo that he was

482
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Speaker 1: actually kind of bored with the last year. I guess

483
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Speaker 1: he was pretty high beating a Paulo Costa. I don't

484
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Speaker 1: know if it was twenty twenty or twenty twenty one

485
00:22:43,680 --> 00:22:46,359
Speaker 1: at this point, but in terms of the Marvin Vttori fire,

486
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Speaker 1: he even said he was halfway through just kind of

487
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Speaker 1: bored with it all. Now. I do think he trained hard,

488
00:22:52,000 --> 00:22:56,040
Speaker 1: but anything to that in your mind. Facing Whittaker again,

489
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Speaker 1: I realized Whittaker is the apex predator of all the contenders.

490
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Speaker 1: That we are aware of your motivation should be different.

491
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Speaker 1: But given that revelation, what do you make of that?

492
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Speaker 1: As it pertains the Saturday.

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Speaker 3: I look at that more as just cocky swagger and

494
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Speaker 3: basically saying without saying, but also kind of saying that

495
00:23:13,600 --> 00:23:16,159
Speaker 3: you know, he didn't think guy's like Vittoria or even

496
00:23:16,240 --> 00:23:18,720
Speaker 3: Coasta had a chance of beating him. Obviously prepared and

497
00:23:18,760 --> 00:23:20,720
Speaker 3: train hard, and you know, knew what they were going

498
00:23:20,800 --> 00:23:23,160
Speaker 3: to bring to the table, but it didn't motivate him

499
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Speaker 3: on this same level that obviously.

500
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Speaker 2: A Whittaker does.

501
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Speaker 3: And he knows how good Whittaker really is and can

502
00:23:28,320 --> 00:23:30,920
Speaker 3: be and will probably be different from the first fight

503
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Speaker 3: given all of those circumstances we mentioned. So I don't

504
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Speaker 3: read too deeply into that, but I gotta kind of

505
00:23:38,600 --> 00:23:41,240
Speaker 3: take the whole narrative of this and pointed back at you, Luke,

506
00:23:41,320 --> 00:23:43,800
Speaker 3: because you understand how to Soundy's game almost as well

507
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Speaker 3: as anyone else. Has he evolved as much as Whittaker

508
00:23:48,119 --> 00:23:50,920
Speaker 3: has since their first fight, or if he hasn't, does

509
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Speaker 3: it even matter in the end.

510
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Speaker 1: I don't think he has retooled the same way that

511
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Speaker 1: Whittaker has. Whittaker kind of hit the reset button and

512
00:24:02,000 --> 00:24:05,720
Speaker 1: then began to rebuild his game in a more concerted, thoughtful,

513
00:24:05,840 --> 00:24:08,879
Speaker 1: layered kind of way. Not from scratch per se, but

514
00:24:08,960 --> 00:24:11,040
Speaker 1: it was a real reordering of things. He's stuck to

515
00:24:11,040 --> 00:24:12,880
Speaker 1: what he was good at, but he brought in all

516
00:24:12,880 --> 00:24:14,520
Speaker 1: these other elements which he was also good at, a

517
00:24:14,600 --> 00:24:16,920
Speaker 1: kind of neglecting, and that takes time to really weave

518
00:24:16,960 --> 00:24:20,360
Speaker 1: that in inaccessible way minute to minute in a fight.

519
00:24:20,880 --> 00:24:24,720
Speaker 1: For Adasanya, though it would people just like to imagine

520
00:24:24,760 --> 00:24:27,600
Speaker 1: he hasn't he's not as good as he is, or

521
00:24:27,600 --> 00:24:30,400
Speaker 1: he hasn't gotten better. Do I think his striking really

522
00:24:30,520 --> 00:24:32,280
Speaker 1: changed between the first fight and this one. No, I

523
00:24:32,320 --> 00:24:35,080
Speaker 1: mean he's gonna be, you know, more or less as

524
00:24:35,080 --> 00:24:37,040
Speaker 1: good as he's always going to be with that, But

525
00:24:37,200 --> 00:24:40,239
Speaker 1: I do think that in his defensive wrestling, which I've

526
00:24:40,240 --> 00:24:43,080
Speaker 1: talked about at length, against the fence its lights out out.

527
00:24:43,080 --> 00:24:44,639
Speaker 1: In the open, it's a little bit more doable. But

528
00:24:44,680 --> 00:24:49,240
Speaker 1: even then at against middleweight wrestlers and grapplers, you saw

529
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Speaker 1: that invatory fight for example, everyone thinks, so if you

530
00:24:51,560 --> 00:24:53,320
Speaker 1: gonna get him down, you can just lay on him. Well,

531
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Speaker 1: if you're two hundred and five, two hundred and thirty

532
00:24:55,119 --> 00:24:58,240
Speaker 1: pounds whatever. On fight night, Yan Bohovic is, maybe you

533
00:24:58,280 --> 00:25:00,000
Speaker 1: can get away with that, but if you're not that big,

534
00:25:00,119 --> 00:25:02,000
Speaker 1: it's actually gonna be pretty hard. And Victory's a big

535
00:25:02,000 --> 00:25:04,480
Speaker 1: fucking guy, a huge guy, and he couldn't get it

536
00:25:04,520 --> 00:25:06,520
Speaker 1: done either. So why I think is do I think

537
00:25:06,520 --> 00:25:09,679
Speaker 1: the things that were strong about him changed? No? Do

538
00:25:09,760 --> 00:25:13,320
Speaker 1: I think his weaknesses got less weak? I absolutely think that,

539
00:25:13,359 --> 00:25:15,960
Speaker 1: And folks are gonna be you know, I don't know

540
00:25:16,000 --> 00:25:17,800
Speaker 1: who's gonna win, but I definitely think you're gonna see

541
00:25:17,800 --> 00:25:20,800
Speaker 1: evidence of progress. How about that on both sides?

542
00:25:21,040 --> 00:25:25,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, and it's still the same great matchup of why

543
00:25:25,119 --> 00:25:27,919
Speaker 3: the styles you know flashed so perfectly in terms of

544
00:25:27,920 --> 00:25:30,560
Speaker 3: what we'll get into on Friday show is that you

545
00:25:30,600 --> 00:25:34,400
Speaker 3: have the completely well rounded Whittaker against the guy who's

546
00:25:34,440 --> 00:25:39,000
Speaker 3: won super Power is so dynamic and so ridiculous that.

547
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Speaker 2: You love this type of matchmaking. I love it.

548
00:25:41,280 --> 00:25:44,040
Speaker 3: But looke before we get off out of Sony completely. Yes,

549
00:25:44,240 --> 00:25:46,240
Speaker 3: I didn't know how to sort of frame this, but

550
00:25:46,280 --> 00:25:47,800
Speaker 3: it was interesting. I don't know if you saw that.

551
00:25:47,800 --> 00:25:52,680
Speaker 3: Eugene Barman of City Kickboxing was on Submission Radio down Under,

552
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Speaker 3: I think in the last forty eight hours, and they

553
00:25:55,560 --> 00:25:57,439
Speaker 3: teed him up with a question kind of saying, like,

554
00:25:57,760 --> 00:25:59,640
Speaker 3: you know, do you think out of Sony really gets

555
00:25:59,640 --> 00:26:03,000
Speaker 3: promoted to the level of like how good he actually

556
00:26:03,040 --> 00:26:05,840
Speaker 3: is in his in his star potential by the UFC,

557
00:26:06,440 --> 00:26:11,679
Speaker 3: And Eugene gave a very telling, sort of no answer

558
00:26:11,840 --> 00:26:14,440
Speaker 3: answer in which he was just sort of like, yes,

559
00:26:14,680 --> 00:26:15,800
Speaker 3: but I can't talk about.

560
00:26:15,560 --> 00:26:17,399
Speaker 2: It at all right now because of these specific times,

561
00:26:17,400 --> 00:26:17,680
Speaker 2: and he.

562
00:26:17,680 --> 00:26:20,760
Speaker 3: Was like very tight lipped. And then, Luke, this morning

563
00:26:21,160 --> 00:26:23,800
Speaker 3: we get that tweet that Aaron Brons said, are put

564
00:26:23,800 --> 00:26:26,840
Speaker 3: out there that says, per a release from Paradigm Sports,

565
00:26:27,119 --> 00:26:29,720
Speaker 3: Atasania signs a new multi fight deal with the UFC,

566
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Speaker 3: making him quote one of the top paid athletes in

567
00:26:32,600 --> 00:26:37,000
Speaker 3: the history of mixed martial arts. That's fairly significant news, Luke.

568
00:26:37,160 --> 00:26:39,320
Speaker 3: Do you think any of the timing and that weird

569
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Speaker 3: no answer plays into it.

570
00:26:41,720 --> 00:26:47,000
Speaker 1: That's a great question. I don't know. I don't know.

571
00:26:47,160 --> 00:26:49,280
Speaker 1: It was weird for me. There was a while there

572
00:26:49,280 --> 00:26:52,760
Speaker 1: where I thought at Asanya was gonna turn and pop

573
00:26:52,800 --> 00:26:55,560
Speaker 1: as a popular attraction sooner than he actually did. Now

574
00:26:55,560 --> 00:26:58,280
Speaker 1: I think he has at this point, so you know,

575
00:26:58,720 --> 00:27:01,639
Speaker 1: better late than never, But did take a while for

576
00:27:01,800 --> 00:27:04,879
Speaker 1: that to sync in, so I don't know about that,

577
00:27:05,000 --> 00:27:07,679
Speaker 1: but I would ask this question if he to UBC,

578
00:27:07,760 --> 00:27:10,280
Speaker 1: if he just signed this deal where he's gonna make

579
00:27:10,280 --> 00:27:13,000
Speaker 1: a ton of money, whatever that ends up being. Does

580
00:27:13,040 --> 00:27:16,640
Speaker 1: he stick around at middleweight? Here's another part of the story.

581
00:27:16,400 --> 00:27:19,080
Speaker 1: A he lost to Yamblohovitch, but be on this card,

582
00:27:19,119 --> 00:27:21,080
Speaker 1: as you will know, is the number one contender fight

583
00:27:21,119 --> 00:27:23,480
Speaker 1: between Cannoneer and Brunson. Brunson who he already beat. So

584
00:27:23,560 --> 00:27:27,440
Speaker 1: Brunson wins, it will be yet another rematches their third

585
00:27:27,480 --> 00:27:29,960
Speaker 1: or whatever in a row. Does he try his hand

586
00:27:29,960 --> 00:27:30,960
Speaker 1: at two oh five again?

587
00:27:31,920 --> 00:27:36,200
Speaker 3: He will, and I think he also has to legacy wise,

588
00:27:36,400 --> 00:27:39,280
Speaker 3: if he actually cares about that thing we debated earlier

589
00:27:39,320 --> 00:27:41,919
Speaker 3: of whether he actually is, you know, in potential to

590
00:27:41,960 --> 00:27:45,119
Speaker 3: one day take a silver spot in terms of the

591
00:27:45,160 --> 00:27:47,720
Speaker 3: goat miss and the greatest middleweight of all time, going

592
00:27:47,760 --> 00:27:51,359
Speaker 3: the second division and contending for and winning a championship,

593
00:27:51,359 --> 00:27:55,160
Speaker 3: which Silva never really attempted to do. That's how you

594
00:27:56,119 --> 00:28:00,000
Speaker 3: get one up on Anderson Silva's long stretch of consistency

595
00:28:00,040 --> 00:28:02,440
Speaker 3: in the wind streak and obviously the dynamic nature of

596
00:28:02,480 --> 00:28:06,360
Speaker 3: how he won those So yeah, yeah, completely.

597
00:28:06,680 --> 00:28:08,359
Speaker 1: All right, We'll have to see what happens on that.

598
00:28:08,480 --> 00:28:10,639
Speaker 1: Let's talk about this co main event here a little bit,

599
00:28:10,640 --> 00:28:14,200
Speaker 1: if we can. Derek Lewis taking on Tye to Evasa.

600
00:28:14,240 --> 00:28:15,919
Speaker 1: You spoke to Derek Lewis. We'll talk about that in

601
00:28:16,000 --> 00:28:19,199
Speaker 1: just a second. B See, what in your mind is

602
00:28:19,280 --> 00:28:22,639
Speaker 1: the predominant storyline here? Is it, you know, new power

603
00:28:22,680 --> 00:28:25,400
Speaker 1: trying to unseat old power. Is it just a bunch

604
00:28:25,440 --> 00:28:27,600
Speaker 1: of big dudes who can throw down and that's what

605
00:28:27,680 --> 00:28:29,680
Speaker 1: Houston fans love. What is the story here?

606
00:28:30,280 --> 00:28:32,760
Speaker 3: It's kind of all of that at the same time

607
00:28:33,000 --> 00:28:36,119
Speaker 3: in a weird way. Like obviously this is you know,

608
00:28:36,240 --> 00:28:41,360
Speaker 3: two attractive heavyweights who fight insanely attractive style, and it

609
00:28:41,440 --> 00:28:44,720
Speaker 3: also kind of makes sense in the rankings to find out,

610
00:28:44,760 --> 00:28:47,160
Speaker 3: you know, all right, Tye to Evasa with this wind streak,

611
00:28:47,200 --> 00:28:50,280
Speaker 3: are you really a player? God? God, let me go

612
00:28:50,280 --> 00:28:52,760
Speaker 3: go f with the Black Beast. I mean it's a

613
00:28:52,760 --> 00:28:55,200
Speaker 3: little bit of that too. It's aggressive matchmaking and Luke,

614
00:28:55,200 --> 00:28:58,840
Speaker 3: obviously you can't not mention that Toyvasa revealed in the

615
00:28:58,880 --> 00:29:02,720
Speaker 3: past week that he was like hammeredly drunk on the

616
00:29:02,720 --> 00:29:05,360
Speaker 3: phone when they pitched him the Derek Close fight, and

617
00:29:05,400 --> 00:29:07,320
Speaker 3: he claims that was the only reason that he kind

618
00:29:07,320 --> 00:29:08,880
Speaker 3: of just like jumped at it. But you know, he

619
00:29:08,920 --> 00:29:10,320
Speaker 3: woke up the next morning was like, all right, I

620
00:29:10,320 --> 00:29:14,200
Speaker 3: guess I'm I'm fighting this, but you know it's it's

621
00:29:14,240 --> 00:29:16,959
Speaker 3: it's Derek Lewis returning home to Houston. And there's this

622
00:29:17,000 --> 00:29:20,040
Speaker 3: sort of weird redemption potential within that, giving that he

623
00:29:20,160 --> 00:29:23,240
Speaker 3: just looked awful against Cyril Gone in Houston. So and

624
00:29:23,280 --> 00:29:25,320
Speaker 3: he claimed he would never fight there again. And uh

625
00:29:25,600 --> 00:29:27,880
Speaker 3: so it's kind of all that which comes together. But

626
00:29:28,000 --> 00:29:30,120
Speaker 3: at the bottom line, it's also just good marketing and

627
00:29:30,160 --> 00:29:32,960
Speaker 3: matchmaking to put two bangers in there against each other.

628
00:29:33,080 --> 00:29:35,080
Speaker 1: No doubt about it. And I would also just say, like,

629
00:29:35,120 --> 00:29:36,920
Speaker 1: we can't lose sight of this fact. I remember when

630
00:29:37,600 --> 00:29:39,640
Speaker 1: I guess it was Robert Whittaker headlining, I don't remember,

631
00:29:39,680 --> 00:29:42,360
Speaker 1: but it was Robert Whittaker on or one of the headliners.

632
00:29:42,400 --> 00:29:44,120
Speaker 1: Then it was tatoo of As on the car to

633
00:29:44,200 --> 00:29:46,400
Speaker 1: Megan Anderson, and UFC was trying to make this big

634
00:29:46,440 --> 00:29:48,920
Speaker 1: Australian push. It was in a US market. Don't lose

635
00:29:48,920 --> 00:29:51,520
Speaker 1: sight of the fact you have a Kiwi versus an Ossi,

636
00:29:52,080 --> 00:29:55,000
Speaker 1: and then in the Comaine you have another key or

637
00:29:55,080 --> 00:29:57,400
Speaker 1: another Ossie excuse me. You know, there could be a

638
00:29:57,400 --> 00:30:00,200
Speaker 1: situation where the no matter what, the ocean in a

639
00:30:00,280 --> 00:30:03,560
Speaker 1: region looks like a fucking million bucks here. But let's

640
00:30:03,720 --> 00:30:06,240
Speaker 1: go back to Derek Lewis. He did have the rebound

641
00:30:06,240 --> 00:30:08,560
Speaker 1: win against Chris Daukas, a knockout win set the record

642
00:30:08,600 --> 00:30:11,560
Speaker 1: for most knockouts in UFC history for single fighter. Having won,

643
00:30:12,400 --> 00:30:14,880
Speaker 1: he talked about about the what went wrong in the gunfight?

644
00:30:14,960 --> 00:30:18,040
Speaker 1: Why is that relevant? The gunfight was in Houston. Here

645
00:30:18,040 --> 00:30:20,440
Speaker 1: we are back in Houston. Let's see what old Lewis

646
00:30:20,440 --> 00:30:28,160
Speaker 1: had to say by the bump bump, bump bump.

647
00:30:31,800 --> 00:30:37,640
Speaker 3: And scene today talking about the you know, ups and

648
00:30:37,680 --> 00:30:40,240
Speaker 3: downs of your own fight game, all of that when

649
00:30:40,280 --> 00:30:42,680
Speaker 3: you fought in Houston last time. I mean, look, it's

650
00:30:42,880 --> 00:30:44,880
Speaker 3: it's either a blessing to fight in your hometown or

651
00:30:44,920 --> 00:30:47,080
Speaker 3: maybe for some people it's a curse because the pressure.

652
00:30:47,920 --> 00:30:50,360
Speaker 3: It just didn't look like Derek Lewis in there against

653
00:30:50,480 --> 00:30:50,960
Speaker 3: Aryl Gon.

654
00:30:50,960 --> 00:30:51,920
Speaker 2: What what happened?

655
00:30:52,440 --> 00:30:56,160
Speaker 3: Black beats? Did they slip you the black pill before him?

656
00:30:56,240 --> 00:30:56,840
Speaker 2: What happened?

657
00:30:57,720 --> 00:31:00,880
Speaker 5: Oh, there was just a lot of pressure had going on. Oh,

658
00:31:01,800 --> 00:31:05,959
Speaker 5: just a lot of stuff I had like that I've

659
00:31:05,960 --> 00:31:08,760
Speaker 5: been dealing with at least for fifteen years. That day

660
00:31:09,480 --> 00:31:12,720
Speaker 5: was the same day I got released, and so it

661
00:31:12,840 --> 00:31:15,920
Speaker 5: was like, like I put a lot of pressure on myself. Yes,

662
00:31:16,200 --> 00:31:17,959
Speaker 5: it's a lot of other stuff that was going on,

663
00:31:18,080 --> 00:31:20,280
Speaker 5: So I just wanted that day to be real special,

664
00:31:20,920 --> 00:31:22,920
Speaker 5: and I just choked.

665
00:31:24,080 --> 00:31:27,360
Speaker 3: Now when you saw Cyril Gunn then lose to Francis

666
00:31:27,360 --> 00:31:29,160
Speaker 3: and Gan and we're like, yeah, yeah, that's what I'm

667
00:31:29,160 --> 00:31:29,760
Speaker 3: talking about.

668
00:31:29,960 --> 00:31:30,720
Speaker 2: Mother.

669
00:31:33,000 --> 00:31:37,040
Speaker 5: No, No, no, not at all. It's like, I guess

670
00:31:37,000 --> 00:31:40,440
Speaker 5: you'd say Francis did a game plane where I wanted

671
00:31:40,480 --> 00:31:42,800
Speaker 5: to do a couple of my fights before, like try

672
00:31:42,840 --> 00:31:45,680
Speaker 5: to wrest the guy, and but whenever I'm in there,

673
00:31:45,760 --> 00:31:48,160
Speaker 5: I didn't even think about wrestling. All I'm thinking about

674
00:31:48,240 --> 00:31:49,240
Speaker 5: is shan and knock them out.

675
00:31:53,720 --> 00:31:54,200
Speaker 1: Look.

676
00:31:54,000 --> 00:31:56,040
Speaker 2: Look, that was more introspective than I expected.

677
00:31:56,040 --> 00:31:59,560
Speaker 3: There is He basically saying that the redemption angle of

678
00:31:59,600 --> 00:32:02,760
Speaker 3: returning home to Houston fifteen year anniversary of getting out

679
00:32:02,760 --> 00:32:05,440
Speaker 3: of jail and turning his life around, that he almost

680
00:32:05,480 --> 00:32:08,840
Speaker 3: paralyzed himself with pressure by building it up and make

681
00:32:08,960 --> 00:32:11,040
Speaker 3: you know, making it this big thing, and then when

682
00:32:11,080 --> 00:32:14,600
Speaker 3: it came time on the stage, he froze. And obviously,

683
00:32:14,760 --> 00:32:17,440
Speaker 3: you know, serial Gon's freaking awesome as well, Luke, I

684
00:32:17,480 --> 00:32:17,840
Speaker 3: got it there.

685
00:32:17,880 --> 00:32:19,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, man, the thing is gone is going to be

686
00:32:19,680 --> 00:32:22,840
Speaker 1: a tough fight on your best day, you know. So

687
00:32:22,960 --> 00:32:25,000
Speaker 1: for me, it's like that was a hard matchup for him,

688
00:32:25,040 --> 00:32:26,840
Speaker 1: no matter what. And I realized a lot of fighters,

689
00:32:26,960 --> 00:32:28,640
Speaker 1: a lot of athletes, they want to tie in so

690
00:32:28,720 --> 00:32:30,480
Speaker 1: and so died. It's the anniversary of this, it's a

691
00:32:30,520 --> 00:32:32,760
Speaker 1: celebration of that, it's the birthday here, blah blah blah.

692
00:32:32,800 --> 00:32:35,600
Speaker 1: And they try to win, you know, weave their winnings

693
00:32:35,760 --> 00:32:38,440
Speaker 1: or their competition into those life moments, and sometimes it

694
00:32:38,480 --> 00:32:40,200
Speaker 1: works out and sometimes it doesn't. I tend to think

695
00:32:40,200 --> 00:32:41,880
Speaker 1: that there might be something to that, right, going back

696
00:32:41,920 --> 00:32:44,320
Speaker 1: home and you know, being the guy who did himself

697
00:32:44,360 --> 00:32:47,560
Speaker 1: proudly and turned his life around and did amazing things

698
00:32:48,160 --> 00:32:50,840
Speaker 1: showing that on a night where he wanted to and

699
00:32:50,880 --> 00:32:52,240
Speaker 1: maybe he got got in his head a little bit.

700
00:32:52,240 --> 00:32:54,040
Speaker 1: But I also think Gone's just you know, he's a

701
00:32:54,080 --> 00:32:56,560
Speaker 1: tough fucking guy to beat, especially on the feet like that. Right,

702
00:32:57,680 --> 00:32:59,880
Speaker 1: But Okay, this one, I don't know what to do.

703
00:33:00,280 --> 00:33:02,200
Speaker 1: Here's what it says in my notes. It says, Lewis

704
00:33:02,280 --> 00:33:04,880
Speaker 1: on shoeys and autographs, you want to set this one up.

705
00:33:05,840 --> 00:33:06,120
Speaker 2: Yeah.

706
00:33:06,160 --> 00:33:09,120
Speaker 3: So look, you know I didn't just come out and say, hey,

707
00:33:09,160 --> 00:33:11,720
Speaker 3: Derek Lewis, what do you think of Shoey's because he's

708
00:33:11,760 --> 00:33:14,440
Speaker 3: been doing interviews and just being like, man, that ship

709
00:33:14,600 --> 00:33:17,360
Speaker 3: is so gross. So I didn't pitch it to him

710
00:33:17,760 --> 00:33:19,680
Speaker 3: in the end, Luke, but I thought he should come

711
00:33:19,760 --> 00:33:22,520
Speaker 3: up with like something to counter that, maybe like like

712
00:33:22,920 --> 00:33:24,720
Speaker 3: call it like a bag of ship and there's like

713
00:33:24,720 --> 00:33:26,960
Speaker 3: a one in five chance that it's actual ship in there,

714
00:33:27,200 --> 00:33:29,040
Speaker 3: and you know, like throw it out to the crowd

715
00:33:29,040 --> 00:33:30,800
Speaker 3: after he wins or something. I mean, that's gotta be

716
00:33:30,840 --> 00:33:33,480
Speaker 3: the only way you can conteract how gross a shoey

717
00:33:33,680 --> 00:33:35,920
Speaker 3: is and for anyone to, oh, you'll be se that's

718
00:33:35,960 --> 00:33:38,760
Speaker 3: funny talk. But we watched you, you know, shoe is

719
00:33:38,880 --> 00:33:42,440
Speaker 3: shoey on that live show. Yes, Luke, but I wouldn't

720
00:33:42,520 --> 00:33:45,720
Speaker 3: let you know, five men spit in it. There's you know, wait,

721
00:33:45,960 --> 00:33:49,000
Speaker 3: m cocky over. You know, you know, come on, looke

722
00:33:49,080 --> 00:33:52,160
Speaker 3: that that's next level gross. So let's throw to Derek.

723
00:33:52,040 --> 00:33:56,240
Speaker 2: Lewis's thoughts on the top. That's a good point.

724
00:33:56,720 --> 00:34:00,640
Speaker 3: We've heard you ad nauseum now since this fight been announced.

725
00:34:00,680 --> 00:34:03,440
Speaker 3: Your opinion on Shoey's and I love to see that.

726
00:34:03,560 --> 00:34:05,400
Speaker 3: You know, you think that shit's gross, like the rest

727
00:34:05,480 --> 00:34:09,839
Speaker 3: of us drinking beer out of some used shoe. I'm

728
00:34:09,840 --> 00:34:11,920
Speaker 3: thinking though, you might want to, like, how do you

729
00:34:12,000 --> 00:34:14,719
Speaker 3: beat the king of gross? You got to top it.

730
00:34:14,920 --> 00:34:16,839
Speaker 3: You got to come up with a Derek Lewis move

731
00:34:16,880 --> 00:34:17,840
Speaker 3: that's even grosser.

732
00:34:17,920 --> 00:34:18,439
Speaker 1: What do you think?

733
00:34:20,960 --> 00:34:21,320
Speaker 3: Nah?

734
00:34:21,760 --> 00:34:26,279
Speaker 5: Noah, I can't do nothing like that. Ah Nah, I'd

735
00:34:26,360 --> 00:34:29,680
Speaker 5: say I take my cup off and drank beer out

736
00:34:29,680 --> 00:34:30,000
Speaker 5: of that.

737
00:34:30,000 --> 00:34:33,120
Speaker 3: That's as far as I go. Well, you know, following

738
00:34:33,160 --> 00:34:36,080
Speaker 3: your knockout of Chris Dakas last time out, you did

739
00:34:36,360 --> 00:34:38,680
Speaker 3: toss said cup to the crowd as a souvenir.

740
00:34:38,920 --> 00:34:41,240
Speaker 2: Did you ever find out who who won that gift?

741
00:34:41,560 --> 00:34:42,120
Speaker 2: Who caught it?

742
00:34:42,960 --> 00:34:43,120
Speaker 5: Oh?

743
00:34:43,200 --> 00:34:43,399
Speaker 4: Yeah?

744
00:34:43,600 --> 00:34:47,200
Speaker 5: The guy had said that he's he's coming to Houston

745
00:34:47,280 --> 00:34:49,719
Speaker 5: actually to Watchington fight, and he wanted me to sign

746
00:34:49,800 --> 00:34:51,360
Speaker 5: it for him.

747
00:34:51,719 --> 00:34:54,319
Speaker 3: Now, look, you know, if you get famous enough, maybe

748
00:34:54,320 --> 00:34:55,600
Speaker 3: you can sign a boob or two.

749
00:34:56,000 --> 00:35:00,080
Speaker 2: You've never signed a cup, right, No, I.

750
00:35:02,719 --> 00:35:08,960
Speaker 5: Saw plenty of titties.

751
00:35:10,680 --> 00:35:11,120
Speaker 3: That's why.

752
00:35:11,120 --> 00:35:11,440
Speaker 2: That's why.

753
00:35:15,360 --> 00:35:17,880
Speaker 3: No, she doesn't need to hear about where Ron Rossey's

754
00:35:17,880 --> 00:35:18,480
Speaker 3: at or anything.

755
00:35:18,680 --> 00:35:20,200
Speaker 2: You know, we got to respect those grounds.

756
00:35:24,440 --> 00:35:27,120
Speaker 3: What a joy, What a joy to behold that much.

757
00:35:27,280 --> 00:35:32,919
Speaker 1: I've signed a lot of titties. That's good stuff. That's

758
00:35:32,960 --> 00:35:33,560
Speaker 1: good stuff.

759
00:35:36,000 --> 00:35:37,680
Speaker 3: So, Luke, you think two of us has got a

760
00:35:37,760 --> 00:35:38,359
Speaker 3: chance or what?

761
00:35:38,360 --> 00:35:40,000
Speaker 1: What do you think? Look, I don't know. Can you

762
00:35:40,000 --> 00:35:41,759
Speaker 1: imagine how much different my life would be if I

763
00:35:41,760 --> 00:35:44,080
Speaker 1: could say to you straight faced I've signed a lot

764
00:35:44,120 --> 00:35:45,600
Speaker 1: of titties in my life.

765
00:35:47,200 --> 00:35:48,279
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that.

766
00:35:48,640 --> 00:35:51,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think they would have built momentum in a

767
00:35:51,600 --> 00:35:53,399
Speaker 3: certain lane and you would have just kept going down

768
00:35:53,400 --> 00:35:54,120
Speaker 3: at Luke, you know.

769
00:35:54,640 --> 00:35:56,919
Speaker 1: Yeah, Uh, this to me is a really interesting fight.

770
00:35:57,000 --> 00:35:59,080
Speaker 1: Derek Lewis is a guy who we've seen him. Well,

771
00:35:59,080 --> 00:36:01,160
Speaker 1: he beat Curtis Blade but and he beat and Gone

772
00:36:01,200 --> 00:36:02,800
Speaker 1: and we all know the story. But you know, Francis

773
00:36:02,840 --> 00:36:04,640
Speaker 1: appears to be the very best one in this division,

774
00:36:05,000 --> 00:36:08,200
Speaker 1: gone just a step or two behind for the moment. Uh,

775
00:36:08,560 --> 00:36:11,080
Speaker 1: And then Derek Lewis is kind of after that he

776
00:36:11,160 --> 00:36:14,640
Speaker 1: beats just about everyone else behind that position. So if

777
00:36:14,680 --> 00:36:17,480
Speaker 1: you can beat Derek Lewis, you would at least not only

778
00:36:17,440 --> 00:36:19,040
Speaker 1: get a crack at that kind of tells us what

779
00:36:19,080 --> 00:36:21,840
Speaker 1: your real place is. Tuey Vasa has kind of fashioned

780
00:36:21,880 --> 00:36:24,839
Speaker 1: himself as someone who's you know, sort of chubby and

781
00:36:24,880 --> 00:36:27,680
Speaker 1: greg Gregarius and drinks beers out of shoes, but actually

782
00:36:27,760 --> 00:36:29,840
Speaker 1: is a pretty talented fighter when he wants to be,

783
00:36:30,120 --> 00:36:31,680
Speaker 1: and he looks like he really wants to be. This

784
00:36:31,719 --> 00:36:34,759
Speaker 1: is gonna be a big test of what has the

785
00:36:34,880 --> 00:36:38,160
Speaker 1: last year slash two of difficult training environments? What has

786
00:36:38,200 --> 00:36:40,440
Speaker 1: that really done? Is he's ironed that process out and

787
00:36:40,480 --> 00:36:42,600
Speaker 1: gotten better at it. We've talked about it before. How

788
00:36:42,600 --> 00:36:45,799
Speaker 1: old is tuvasa twenty eight or twenty nine? Twenty eight

789
00:36:45,840 --> 00:36:48,000
Speaker 1: doesn't turn twenty nine until March, so soon here, but

790
00:36:48,040 --> 00:36:51,400
Speaker 1: still not even fucking thirty. He is daring to be great.

791
00:36:51,440 --> 00:36:54,480
Speaker 1: He's trying the Brian Campbell experiment and so far, for

792
00:36:54,520 --> 00:36:56,520
Speaker 1: the most part, it's been pretty good.

793
00:36:56,840 --> 00:37:00,759
Speaker 3: Look what is the ceiling potential? Like? Like, look, we

794
00:37:00,800 --> 00:37:04,440
Speaker 3: talked earlier about the multi reasons that this fight is

795
00:37:04,440 --> 00:37:08,359
Speaker 3: so attractive or why it was booked, but like, you know,

796
00:37:08,400 --> 00:37:12,040
Speaker 3: you can't like the main storyline really is is taitu

797
00:37:12,080 --> 00:37:14,680
Speaker 3: Ivasi good enough to swim on this end of the pool?

798
00:37:15,800 --> 00:37:19,200
Speaker 3: But because of the marketing potential of just the crazy

799
00:37:19,239 --> 00:37:22,919
Speaker 3: guy character drink beer out of shoes, you know, Australian

800
00:37:23,000 --> 00:37:24,960
Speaker 3: and living it up like, he can get a lot

801
00:37:25,000 --> 00:37:27,000
Speaker 3: of mileage out of that, and obviously you can get

802
00:37:27,120 --> 00:37:29,839
Speaker 3: even more if he's like a title contender, if he

803
00:37:29,920 --> 00:37:33,000
Speaker 3: knocked out Derek Lewis and did the shoe he atop

804
00:37:33,080 --> 00:37:35,560
Speaker 3: the cage, you know, And I mean, is he an

805
00:37:35,560 --> 00:37:40,120
Speaker 3: overnight like global star, I mean, what happens next?

806
00:37:41,360 --> 00:37:44,200
Speaker 1: Man? He might be, he might be. I'm trying to

807
00:37:44,239 --> 00:37:47,799
Speaker 1: think of the last guy at heavyweight who was kind

808
00:37:47,840 --> 00:37:50,879
Speaker 1: of similar, where he was really really good, not the

809
00:37:50,920 --> 00:37:56,880
Speaker 1: best guy, but also a fun loving crowd favorite. I

810
00:37:56,880 --> 00:37:58,799
Speaker 1: don't know who that would be. Most of the time,

811
00:37:58,840 --> 00:38:01,400
Speaker 1: the guys at heavyweight have been super serious. Kine was

812
00:38:01,440 --> 00:38:04,120
Speaker 1: super serious, so was Brock to an extent less so now,

813
00:38:04,160 --> 00:38:07,319
Speaker 1: but at the time JDS was really intense. I'm trying

814
00:38:07,320 --> 00:38:08,720
Speaker 1: to think he, dude.

815
00:38:08,560 --> 00:38:10,879
Speaker 3: No Gara was intense as shit, you know, so.

816
00:38:11,080 --> 00:38:14,120
Speaker 1: Fucking crazy intense. So, like you know, it was always

817
00:38:14,160 --> 00:38:16,960
Speaker 1: this real hardcore who's the baddest man on the planet?

818
00:38:17,160 --> 00:38:18,839
Speaker 1: Here comes tied to Ivasa. I don't know if he's

819
00:38:18,840 --> 00:38:20,880
Speaker 1: the baddest man pretty close, but even if he's not,

820
00:38:21,320 --> 00:38:23,680
Speaker 1: he has this completely unique lane. So to your point,

821
00:38:23,960 --> 00:38:26,120
Speaker 1: not only is this their potential in that huge market,

822
00:38:26,120 --> 00:38:28,400
Speaker 1: that the UFC has been steadily building over time in

823
00:38:28,440 --> 00:38:31,759
Speaker 1: Australia and New Zealand. But on top of that, he

824
00:38:31,880 --> 00:38:34,359
Speaker 1: has if he can really get good I think that's

825
00:38:34,400 --> 00:38:36,160
Speaker 1: what matters to MEBC. I don't think he has to

826
00:38:36,160 --> 00:38:37,960
Speaker 1: be the very best heavyweight, although we'll see what happens

827
00:38:38,040 --> 00:38:40,319
Speaker 1: over time, but he's got to be good enough and

828
00:38:40,520 --> 00:38:43,000
Speaker 1: relevant enough. And then you add in this sort of

829
00:38:43,040 --> 00:38:46,040
Speaker 1: bubbly weird side. I do think it can take. He's

830
00:38:46,080 --> 00:38:50,120
Speaker 1: almost like prime cowboy almost as well.

831
00:38:50,120 --> 00:38:52,920
Speaker 3: That's why this next comparison makes the most sense. And

832
00:38:52,960 --> 00:38:55,480
Speaker 3: shout out to our producer Mikey Mormal for texting it

833
00:38:55,520 --> 00:38:57,880
Speaker 3: into us. Who's the last guy that we saw that

834
00:38:57,920 --> 00:39:01,200
Speaker 3: kind of fit this character, Roy Nelson? And yes, of

835
00:39:01,239 --> 00:39:03,399
Speaker 3: course that makes a ton of sense. And I think

836
00:39:03,400 --> 00:39:05,080
Speaker 3: we forgot to mention Roy the last time we had

837
00:39:05,080 --> 00:39:07,319
Speaker 3: this debate as well. Do you think Todd Duffy could

838
00:39:07,320 --> 00:39:09,279
Speaker 3: have become that like the big you know, a big,

839
00:39:09,360 --> 00:39:10,880
Speaker 3: dumb looking guy who could just come out there and

840
00:39:10,920 --> 00:39:13,040
Speaker 3: flatten people like he There was a spark for a

841
00:39:13,080 --> 00:39:13,720
Speaker 3: moment there.

842
00:39:13,640 --> 00:39:15,640
Speaker 1: Luke, I do like Duffy, but then he uh, he

843
00:39:15,719 --> 00:39:17,480
Speaker 1: lost to Overheim and I think the kind of derailed

844
00:39:17,480 --> 00:39:20,320
Speaker 1: thing and t mirror No, because Duffy was always built

845
00:39:20,360 --> 00:39:24,200
Speaker 1: like a fucking terminator, you know, whereas taitu Ivasa is

846
00:39:24,239 --> 00:39:26,920
Speaker 1: formidable to be clear, but you know he's not going

847
00:39:26,960 --> 00:39:28,480
Speaker 1: to win any bodybuilding contests.

848
00:39:28,520 --> 00:39:31,239
Speaker 3: Well, people are going to say Shane Carwin Luke. People

849
00:39:31,280 --> 00:39:33,319
Speaker 3: will probably say sh Shane Carwin. But he didn't have

850
00:39:33,320 --> 00:39:34,640
Speaker 3: the personality to match it.

851
00:39:35,000 --> 00:39:38,120
Speaker 1: And also he was real muscular too and was a

852
00:39:38,120 --> 00:39:42,279
Speaker 1: division two wrestler memory served. So he is something of

853
00:39:42,320 --> 00:39:45,400
Speaker 1: a unique moment in heavyweight. Young guy, full of personality,

854
00:39:45,440 --> 00:39:48,359
Speaker 1: totally bubbly, a little bit crazy, but can actually fight

855
00:39:48,400 --> 00:39:50,080
Speaker 1: a little bit. Now we're going to get to that

856
00:39:50,239 --> 00:39:53,520
Speaker 1: side of things that tells us just not that this

857
00:39:53,640 --> 00:39:55,640
Speaker 1: is the final arbiter, but at least a good measuring

858
00:39:55,680 --> 00:39:58,120
Speaker 1: stick of where he is today. I will say, to

859
00:39:58,280 --> 00:40:01,120
Speaker 1: beat Derek Lewis, what tied Tasa has to do is

860
00:40:01,360 --> 00:40:04,319
Speaker 1: could he land a big punch in wild exchange and

861
00:40:04,360 --> 00:40:06,000
Speaker 1: that closed the show. Seems like he could do that

862
00:40:06,040 --> 00:40:08,319
Speaker 1: with anybody if he really wanted to. But that's you know,

863
00:40:08,360 --> 00:40:11,239
Speaker 1: a fifty to fifty proposition at best. For tay two

864
00:40:11,360 --> 00:40:14,600
Speaker 1: Vasa to win, he's got to show a dedicated strategic

865
00:40:14,760 --> 00:40:20,160
Speaker 1: implementation in a disciplined way over time. If he does that,

866
00:40:20,160 --> 00:40:23,720
Speaker 1: that would be huge. Man, That's not just beating Derek Lewis.

867
00:40:23,800 --> 00:40:26,359
Speaker 1: It's a new way of fighting that could take you

868
00:40:26,520 --> 00:40:27,000
Speaker 1: very far.

869
00:40:27,480 --> 00:40:29,680
Speaker 3: So I think we just laid out the two possible

870
00:40:29,760 --> 00:40:33,400
Speaker 3: lanes of like perfect case scenario for ty too Ivasa

871
00:40:33,480 --> 00:40:36,680
Speaker 3: on Saturday, And that's true. But lukaw about this one

872
00:40:36,719 --> 00:40:40,440
Speaker 3: of the biggest factors of potential derailment for him that

873
00:40:40,480 --> 00:40:42,239
Speaker 3: he's got to prove he can get past is. While

874
00:40:42,239 --> 00:40:45,120
Speaker 3: we would never look at Derek Lewis as a technician

875
00:40:45,800 --> 00:40:48,480
Speaker 3: or you know what I mean, he's an elite brawler, right,

876
00:40:48,520 --> 00:40:50,640
Speaker 3: we never look at him as a lot of those things.

877
00:40:50,800 --> 00:40:54,000
Speaker 3: He has obviously had to develop some pretty high level

878
00:40:54,600 --> 00:40:57,960
Speaker 3: survival skills. You know, like think if you make basketball terms,

879
00:40:58,160 --> 00:41:00,400
Speaker 3: think of the old veteran who's kind of half dirty

880
00:41:00,440 --> 00:41:03,279
Speaker 3: and sort of you know, uses physicality to kind of

881
00:41:03,360 --> 00:41:07,560
Speaker 3: cheat and rute like Lewis has uh has enough of

882
00:41:07,600 --> 00:41:10,480
Speaker 3: that veteranis that that's part of the thing that that

883
00:41:10,520 --> 00:41:14,160
Speaker 3: could potentially stop Touivasa from implementing a game plan.

884
00:41:14,920 --> 00:41:17,080
Speaker 1: No doubt about it. And Derek Lewis, you know he's

885
00:41:17,080 --> 00:41:19,040
Speaker 1: certainly gonna have something to say about Derek Lewis has

886
00:41:19,040 --> 00:41:23,640
Speaker 1: beaten better fighters than than Tai toy Vasa has by

887
00:41:23,640 --> 00:41:26,080
Speaker 1: far like he has a much better resume, and so

888
00:41:26,239 --> 00:41:28,160
Speaker 1: with that experience and with that ability, I think tuiy

889
00:41:28,200 --> 00:41:32,200
Speaker 1: Vasa has something of an uphill climb here. But here's

890
00:41:32,239 --> 00:41:35,160
Speaker 1: the thing, Derek Lewis kind of already pretty popular at

891
00:41:35,239 --> 00:41:37,600
Speaker 1: least but to the American audience, thirty seven years old,

892
00:41:37,640 --> 00:41:41,920
Speaker 1: not ancient, but not a ton of time left at heavyweight,

893
00:41:42,680 --> 00:41:46,200
Speaker 1: and so the bigger upside in terms of least growth

894
00:41:46,239 --> 00:41:48,239
Speaker 1: potential is going to be on the twoiy Vasa side,

895
00:41:48,239 --> 00:41:49,719
Speaker 1: which is why I think they're making this fight at

896
00:41:49,719 --> 00:41:52,200
Speaker 1: the time they're making it. But Derek Lewis, I think

897
00:41:52,280 --> 00:41:54,239
Speaker 1: I think he's the favorite and probably should be.

898
00:41:55,360 --> 00:41:58,200
Speaker 3: Yes, because I think that key question that you have

899
00:41:58,200 --> 00:42:02,000
Speaker 3: to ask yourself double check is do you think Tuivasa

900
00:42:02,040 --> 00:42:04,879
Speaker 3: could win a full on brawl against Lewis not one

901
00:42:04,920 --> 00:42:07,520
Speaker 3: punch him? Do you think if this turns into a

902
00:42:08,239 --> 00:42:14,279
Speaker 3: shitfest in an amazing, beautiful disaster of strikes, that he

903
00:42:14,360 --> 00:42:16,920
Speaker 3: can stand in there against that kind of firepower.

904
00:42:17,400 --> 00:42:18,319
Speaker 2: I just don't believe that.

905
00:42:18,760 --> 00:42:21,839
Speaker 1: Yeah, that I don't know that. I'm much more skeptical about.

906
00:42:21,840 --> 00:42:25,280
Speaker 1: I don't think he can out brawl Derek Lewis again

907
00:42:25,840 --> 00:42:28,799
Speaker 1: over time. I just don't believe that. But Derek Lewis,

908
00:42:28,840 --> 00:42:31,040
Speaker 1: according to our friends over at Caesar Sportsbook and minus

909
00:42:31,080 --> 00:42:34,440
Speaker 1: one ninety to tui Vasa's plus one sixty, So pretty

910
00:42:34,480 --> 00:42:37,000
Speaker 1: close odds, although Lewis obviously get in a bit of

911
00:42:37,000 --> 00:42:37,200
Speaker 1: the not.

912
00:42:37,400 --> 00:42:40,640
Speaker 3: Dude, that's too close. Isn't that too close? Derek Lewis

913
00:42:40,719 --> 00:42:43,000
Speaker 3: like clos like you just talked about, sort of the

914
00:42:43,040 --> 00:42:45,680
Speaker 3: line he's drawn for himself where you know he's he's

915
00:42:45,719 --> 00:42:47,880
Speaker 3: proven he's better than even the Curtis Blades level, and

916
00:42:47,920 --> 00:42:50,640
Speaker 3: that's a pretty high level heavyweight. I don't know, dude,

917
00:42:50,640 --> 00:42:54,640
Speaker 3: that's that's even with Tuyvasa being a gun slinger. He

918
00:42:54,719 --> 00:42:56,680
Speaker 3: has way too much to prove for him to be

919
00:42:56,719 --> 00:42:59,239
Speaker 3: that that short of an underdog right there.

920
00:42:59,600 --> 00:43:02,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, those are those are interesting odds. I mean, if

921
00:43:02,640 --> 00:43:05,479
Speaker 1: you like tui Vasa's upside, that's as a great moment

922
00:43:05,480 --> 00:43:07,040
Speaker 1: to get in on it, no doubt about it. But

923
00:43:07,080 --> 00:43:09,880
Speaker 1: I do think it's rightful that Derek Lewis has the

924
00:43:10,200 --> 00:43:12,799
Speaker 1: hash the favorite A designation there. I just think what

925
00:43:12,920 --> 00:43:15,640
Speaker 1: he's done and what he's proven. He's just proven more

926
00:43:15,960 --> 00:43:18,600
Speaker 1: to this point than tie to Evasa. But that's what

927
00:43:18,640 --> 00:43:20,839
Speaker 1: makes the fight so exciting. I can't wait b see

928
00:43:20,840 --> 00:43:23,120
Speaker 1: as we wrap up here on UFC two seventy one.

929
00:43:23,520 --> 00:43:26,279
Speaker 1: Is there any other storyline on any other fight on

930
00:43:26,320 --> 00:43:28,920
Speaker 1: the card. We did indicate there was the number one contender.

931
00:43:29,120 --> 00:43:31,920
Speaker 1: Feel about Kennon Aaron Brunson, you could talk about that

932
00:43:31,960 --> 00:43:33,279
Speaker 1: or is there anything else on this card? No?

933
00:43:33,280 --> 00:43:35,360
Speaker 3: No, we have Canon Aaron Brunson well, and we're obviously

934
00:43:35,360 --> 00:43:37,360
Speaker 3: gonna preview the x's and o's and detail on Friday.

935
00:43:37,360 --> 00:43:40,960
Speaker 3: That's a great, great elite middleweight fight to maybe produce

936
00:43:41,000 --> 00:43:43,200
Speaker 3: the next title contender. But there is a lot of

937
00:43:43,239 --> 00:43:45,640
Speaker 3: interesting storylines up and down on this and Luke, obviously

938
00:43:45,640 --> 00:43:49,160
Speaker 3: that women's flyweight bout between Roxanne Mattafury and Casey O'Neil

939
00:43:49,200 --> 00:43:51,560
Speaker 3: will get us talking, rightfully so in a few seconds

940
00:43:51,600 --> 00:43:55,520
Speaker 3: about you know what this means for Roxham Atafari's legacy

941
00:43:55,560 --> 00:43:57,120
Speaker 3: and who she was and what she has given to

942
00:43:57,160 --> 00:44:01,440
Speaker 3: this sport for for so long. Case O'Neil's like, pretty

943
00:44:01,480 --> 00:44:03,759
Speaker 3: damn good, Luke, and she's only twenty four years old

944
00:44:04,160 --> 00:44:08,080
Speaker 3: and this is interesting matchmaking in a lot of ways.

945
00:44:08,080 --> 00:44:10,480
Speaker 3: But she has like star potential. And then she told

946
00:44:10,480 --> 00:44:13,239
Speaker 3: that story on the MMA Hour about waking up without

947
00:44:13,239 --> 00:44:15,720
Speaker 3: a tooth and because she was so drunk in Mexico

948
00:44:15,800 --> 00:44:17,440
Speaker 3: and it was like the hangover and then she had

949
00:44:17,440 --> 00:44:19,719
Speaker 3: to get you know, have a sober twenty twenty two.

950
00:44:20,480 --> 00:44:22,960
Speaker 2: That only added to the badass reputation.

951
00:44:23,080 --> 00:44:26,040
Speaker 1: Luke, that was pretty nice. I have to admit, how

952
00:44:26,080 --> 00:44:28,279
Speaker 1: did you lose a tooth? I'm not entirely sure, but

953
00:44:28,320 --> 00:44:33,839
Speaker 1: I think I know we should party you and I yes,

954
00:44:33,880 --> 00:44:35,520
Speaker 1: that's a great one. I would actually point to a

955
00:44:35,560 --> 00:44:37,320
Speaker 1: couple of other ones which I thought were kind of interesting.

956
00:44:37,400 --> 00:44:39,240
Speaker 2: Oh well, you just jumped right past.

957
00:44:39,360 --> 00:44:39,600
Speaker 1: You know.

958
00:44:40,239 --> 00:44:42,680
Speaker 3: We love your roxy. Have a great exit. Here's my

959
00:44:42,719 --> 00:44:43,360
Speaker 3: first memory.

960
00:44:43,360 --> 00:44:45,640
Speaker 1: I didn't mean to. Yes, I talked about a little

961
00:44:45,800 --> 00:44:48,600
Speaker 1: on social media, but you're right. Roxanmona fairy has been here.

962
00:44:48,640 --> 00:44:52,360
Speaker 1: I remember when Sure Dog did a like a brief

963
00:44:52,400 --> 00:44:56,400
Speaker 1: documentary on her when she was a translator in Japan.

964
00:44:56,600 --> 00:44:58,480
Speaker 1: She used to live in Japan. They showed her little

965
00:44:58,520 --> 00:45:00,279
Speaker 1: tiny apartment that she used to live in a thinking

966
00:45:00,360 --> 00:45:03,839
Speaker 1: Osaka or Tokyo, and she was a big feature there.

967
00:45:03,880 --> 00:45:06,040
Speaker 1: And a staple on the Japanese women's scene when that

968
00:45:06,120 --> 00:45:08,040
Speaker 1: was the more dominant scene in the sport. But of

969
00:45:08,080 --> 00:45:09,719
Speaker 1: course she was a pioneer. I think I think she

970
00:45:09,760 --> 00:45:12,000
Speaker 1: felt with Hook and Shoot in some other places. She's

971
00:45:12,040 --> 00:45:16,680
Speaker 1: been around forever. She is impossible to dislike. I mean,

972
00:45:16,719 --> 00:45:18,880
Speaker 1: not everyone has to like the personality, but you just

973
00:45:18,920 --> 00:45:22,680
Speaker 1: sort of asked, who brings a joyful spirit, a unique

974
00:45:22,800 --> 00:45:25,080
Speaker 1: energy to the sport and everything else. It's her. It's

975
00:45:25,080 --> 00:45:27,920
Speaker 1: her times a thousand and also one of these people

976
00:45:27,920 --> 00:45:30,440
Speaker 1: who you know, pretty fair to say wasn't born with

977
00:45:30,760 --> 00:45:36,680
Speaker 1: Usain bolt athletic genetics, but has just really really dedicated

978
00:45:36,680 --> 00:45:40,520
Speaker 1: herself to getting better, and I thought made a very

979
00:45:40,560 --> 00:45:45,440
Speaker 1: strong case for herself as a talented, super good professional

980
00:45:45,480 --> 00:45:47,359
Speaker 1: and had a very you know, in her own way,

981
00:45:47,400 --> 00:45:50,480
Speaker 1: I think, a very distinguished and commendable at least career.

982
00:45:50,880 --> 00:45:54,359
Speaker 3: Well, look, there's a whole lane and reason why she'll

983
00:45:54,360 --> 00:45:58,200
Speaker 3: be so memorable historically. That plays into her personality, how

984
00:45:58,280 --> 00:46:00,960
Speaker 3: kind and nice she is, how kind of oddball quirky

985
00:46:01,040 --> 00:46:03,719
Speaker 3: she is, and all that. But I don't want that

986
00:46:03,760 --> 00:46:08,120
Speaker 3: to shine over what she accomplished in the longevity, in

987
00:46:08,200 --> 00:46:11,800
Speaker 3: the reinventions, not just taking you know, a certain talent

988
00:46:11,920 --> 00:46:14,040
Speaker 3: level and getting the most out of it. But who

989
00:46:14,080 --> 00:46:16,320
Speaker 3: she was in her twilight from the upset of Macy

990
00:46:16,360 --> 00:46:19,680
Speaker 3: Barber to actually fighting for a UFC title on that

991
00:46:19,719 --> 00:46:25,120
Speaker 3: inaugural flyweight about against Anico Montangno, she fought, you know,

992
00:46:25,400 --> 00:46:28,919
Speaker 3: for Invicta titles, coming up short by split decision. Don't

993
00:46:28,920 --> 00:46:32,120
Speaker 3: forget Luke. She lost seven fights in a row between

994
00:46:32,160 --> 00:46:36,400
Speaker 3: like twenty ten and twenty thirteen. That's usually enough to

995
00:46:36,480 --> 00:46:40,320
Speaker 3: run somebody out of the sport. And then she arguably

996
00:46:40,360 --> 00:46:43,080
Speaker 3: had you know, her greatest moments after that to get

997
00:46:43,120 --> 00:46:46,000
Speaker 3: to what I just mentioned in what she's become in

998
00:46:46,040 --> 00:46:49,880
Speaker 3: the UFC, which is just a tough ass gatekeeper, but

999
00:46:50,000 --> 00:46:53,759
Speaker 3: in the in the nicest possible way of what she

1000
00:46:53,800 --> 00:46:56,880
Speaker 3: brought to these divisions and then not really a gatekeeper

1001
00:46:56,880 --> 00:47:00,319
Speaker 3: because she got to the title level. So yes, she's

1002
00:47:00,400 --> 00:47:03,560
Speaker 3: quirky and kind and amazing on that side, but what

1003
00:47:03,640 --> 00:47:06,880
Speaker 3: she did in the cage certainly justified everything just the same.

1004
00:47:07,360 --> 00:47:09,560
Speaker 3: And Luke I did match up my weirdness with her

1005
00:47:09,600 --> 00:47:12,440
Speaker 3: as one time, I think it was before the Barber

1006
00:47:12,480 --> 00:47:15,000
Speaker 3: fight at UFC Media Day, and you know, if you

1007
00:47:15,200 --> 00:47:17,680
Speaker 3: hers a wild ride, Luke because I you know, because

1008
00:47:17,840 --> 00:47:20,400
Speaker 3: she'll throw as many curveballs back at you as you

1009
00:47:20,440 --> 00:47:22,640
Speaker 3: attempt to slide in on her. And then you know,

1010
00:47:22,680 --> 00:47:24,120
Speaker 3: you get to a point where're like, I don't know

1011
00:47:24,120 --> 00:47:26,240
Speaker 3: her motivations anymore. I don't know where this is going.

1012
00:47:26,880 --> 00:47:29,080
Speaker 1: She has great wins too, by the way, I mean,

1013
00:47:29,080 --> 00:47:31,879
Speaker 1: here's just her wins. Whether she fought everyone, but here's

1014
00:47:31,880 --> 00:47:37,360
Speaker 1: her wins. Valerie Laturno, Shana Dobson, MK super Fan, Emily Whitmyer.

1015
00:47:39,080 --> 00:47:43,799
Speaker 1: Uh yeah. She beat my Magomiyeabushita twice, Marluce Coonan, she

1016
00:47:43,920 --> 00:47:47,680
Speaker 1: beat Andrea Lee twice, Deanna Bennett, she beat Barb Hanschak,

1017
00:47:47,760 --> 00:47:50,880
Speaker 1: who was one of the top early female fighters. She

1018
00:47:51,000 --> 00:47:53,839
Speaker 1: beat Macy Barber, she beat Antonina Chevchenko.

1019
00:47:54,280 --> 00:47:58,120
Speaker 3: Dude, she had she had old guy at the park

1020
00:47:58,239 --> 00:48:00,480
Speaker 3: with you know, old guy at the park with two

1021
00:48:00,520 --> 00:48:03,000
Speaker 3: knee braces who just comes down there and just posts

1022
00:48:03,120 --> 00:48:05,799
Speaker 3: up all over those young kids, you know, and just

1023
00:48:05,840 --> 00:48:08,319
Speaker 3: like throwing in hook shots and or you know, just

1024
00:48:08,320 --> 00:48:11,759
Speaker 3: just doing grimy old man shit. That was her MMA

1025
00:48:11,920 --> 00:48:14,400
Speaker 3: game in the second half, and it worked like it

1026
00:48:14,440 --> 00:48:17,360
Speaker 3: worked very effectively. And also, Luke, I don't think anyone's

1027
00:48:17,360 --> 00:48:20,960
Speaker 3: more worn more fabric, you know, into a into a

1028
00:48:21,000 --> 00:48:21,600
Speaker 3: cage than her.

1029
00:48:21,680 --> 00:48:24,839
Speaker 1: She had like you know, yes, who who wears more

1030
00:48:24,880 --> 00:48:28,480
Speaker 1: fabric Moti Ferry before a UFC fight or those divers

1031
00:48:28,520 --> 00:48:31,799
Speaker 1: who wear chainmail to go into feeding frenzies with sharks.

1032
00:48:32,280 --> 00:48:34,239
Speaker 3: I mean it's Kobe Bryant level with the arm and

1033
00:48:34,320 --> 00:48:36,799
Speaker 3: leg sleeves. I mean she you know, she's in there

1034
00:48:36,840 --> 00:48:37,560
Speaker 3: to tumble Luke.

1035
00:48:37,600 --> 00:48:40,440
Speaker 1: Okay, God bless her, dude. She's been a great, great

1036
00:48:40,560 --> 00:48:42,960
Speaker 1: member of the MMA community. My wife got to roll

1037
00:48:42,960 --> 00:48:45,279
Speaker 1: with her one time, a couple times actually, when she

1038
00:48:45,360 --> 00:48:47,520
Speaker 1: was visiting in Vegas. She said she's actually pretty good

1039
00:48:47,560 --> 00:48:49,440
Speaker 1: on the ground, really good. As a matter of fact, how.

1040
00:48:49,280 --> 00:48:53,800
Speaker 3: Did you considering I have been indecent proposals by Anderson

1041
00:48:53,880 --> 00:48:55,399
Speaker 3: Silva but didn't say yes to that.

1042
00:48:55,600 --> 00:48:57,680
Speaker 2: How did you end up with this transaction?

1043
00:48:59,000 --> 00:49:03,040
Speaker 1: I didn't roll her. My wife did. Okay, no, no, no,

1044
00:49:03,160 --> 00:49:05,360
Speaker 1: My wife was. My wife is a corporate event planner,

1045
00:49:05,400 --> 00:49:08,520
Speaker 1: so you can imagine both of us independently end up

1046
00:49:08,560 --> 00:49:10,720
Speaker 1: in Las Vegas for work a lot and me for fights.

1047
00:49:10,800 --> 00:49:14,080
Speaker 1: Her because that's where tons of conventions are, right, So

1048
00:49:14,120 --> 00:49:16,239
Speaker 1: she was planning some convention. I don't even remember what

1049
00:49:16,280 --> 00:49:17,879
Speaker 1: it was at this point, and then one of her

1050
00:49:17,880 --> 00:49:20,719
Speaker 1: off days, I think she went down to syndicate and

1051
00:49:20,760 --> 00:49:23,040
Speaker 1: she said MOTIFERI was the only one there, and she

1052
00:49:23,160 --> 00:49:25,279
Speaker 1: asked if Moti Ferry wanted to train. Apparently she did,

1053
00:49:25,320 --> 00:49:26,680
Speaker 1: so they trained together for that day.

1054
00:49:27,320 --> 00:49:31,720
Speaker 3: And look, do you know the picture you just painted

1055
00:49:31,760 --> 00:49:34,600
Speaker 3: of your wife like being ballsy as hell?

1056
00:49:34,719 --> 00:49:34,959
Speaker 1: Luke?

1057
00:49:35,040 --> 00:49:36,839
Speaker 3: I mean you, I mean she just knocks on a

1058
00:49:36,920 --> 00:49:39,960
Speaker 3: random mmajim and goes up to said legendary pro and

1059
00:49:40,000 --> 00:49:42,680
Speaker 3: it's like, hey, you want to you know, like you know,

1060
00:49:42,680 --> 00:49:44,600
Speaker 3: I guess the shooting range on the first date is

1061
00:49:44,680 --> 00:49:45,960
Speaker 3: very well justified.

1062
00:49:45,560 --> 00:49:47,560
Speaker 1: Here, Luke. So it was funny. My wife didn't know

1063
00:49:47,600 --> 00:49:50,200
Speaker 1: who that was, but now she knows and now she

1064
00:49:50,280 --> 00:49:53,479
Speaker 1: loves Roxy. But this is several years ago, she didn't

1065
00:49:53,520 --> 00:49:55,439
Speaker 1: know who she was. She was like, I found this lady.

1066
00:49:55,480 --> 00:49:57,480
Speaker 1: She seemed really nice. Her name was Roxanne. We ruled.

1067
00:49:57,560 --> 00:50:00,560
Speaker 1: I'm like Roxanne Motafaiss Like, I don't know, so a picture.

1068
00:50:00,560 --> 00:50:02,319
Speaker 1: I'm like this person. She goes, yeah, that was her,

1069
00:50:02,760 --> 00:50:04,799
Speaker 1: and I'm like, you just rolled up to the gym

1070
00:50:04,800 --> 00:50:06,240
Speaker 1: and did it. She's like yeah, she was really friendly.

1071
00:50:06,280 --> 00:50:10,799
Speaker 1: I was like, okay, sweet, awesome, So there you go

1072
00:50:10,880 --> 00:50:12,960
Speaker 1: have my fun little story with Roxande Motifairy. I would

1073
00:50:13,000 --> 00:50:14,560
Speaker 1: also point out on this card, b see a couple

1074
00:50:14,560 --> 00:50:17,239
Speaker 1: things to look out for at a lightweight bout. It's

1075
00:50:17,360 --> 00:50:20,040
Speaker 1: doesn't have a prominent placement even a little bit. It's

1076
00:50:20,080 --> 00:50:22,480
Speaker 1: buried on the early prelim card and even then is

1077
00:50:22,520 --> 00:50:25,960
Speaker 1: not the main event. Alexander Hernandez taking on Hanato Moiicano.

1078
00:50:26,080 --> 00:50:29,319
Speaker 1: Mokano and Hernandez were two guys with a ton of

1079
00:50:29,400 --> 00:50:32,080
Speaker 1: hype when they came to the UFC and part Hernandez

1080
00:50:32,080 --> 00:50:36,840
Speaker 1: he beat darry Yusch and Albin Marcier whoever his name was,

1081
00:50:37,000 --> 00:50:39,880
Speaker 1: Olivier Albin Marcier, like in back to back fights or

1082
00:50:39,880 --> 00:50:41,680
Speaker 1: some shit, all right, whatever it was he had, he'd

1083
00:50:41,719 --> 00:50:43,800
Speaker 1: be blitzed through the door and all of a sudden

1084
00:50:43,880 --> 00:50:45,400
Speaker 1: and then he tried the day drinking don thing and

1085
00:50:45,440 --> 00:50:47,080
Speaker 1: he's had to retool. He had some wins in his

1086
00:50:47,160 --> 00:50:49,840
Speaker 1: last contest, right, he win in his last contest. Moykano

1087
00:50:50,000 --> 00:50:52,040
Speaker 1: was this next thing at featherweight, but you know it's

1088
00:50:52,120 --> 00:50:54,040
Speaker 1: just a little bit behind some of the other guys,

1089
00:50:54,239 --> 00:50:56,360
Speaker 1: so he moved to lightweight. These guys are trying to

1090
00:50:56,400 --> 00:50:58,759
Speaker 1: like reset their career because they're still kind of young.

1091
00:50:59,360 --> 00:51:02,200
Speaker 1: That's a tough, fast fight for those guys really like

1092
00:51:02,320 --> 00:51:03,120
Speaker 1: that one.

1093
00:51:02,960 --> 00:51:05,480
Speaker 3: Because because you know, specifically moy connell, he has yet

1094
00:51:05,520 --> 00:51:09,399
Speaker 3: to really establish himself at lightweight beyond more than this

1095
00:51:09,480 --> 00:51:11,319
Speaker 3: is an experiment. I mean, he's young enough, he's only

1096
00:51:11,320 --> 00:51:14,760
Speaker 3: thirty two, and he had some very very good wins

1097
00:51:14,760 --> 00:51:19,640
Speaker 3: at featherweight, and you know between ultimately sort of alternating

1098
00:51:19,680 --> 00:51:22,279
Speaker 3: wins and losses in his biggest fights. I don't look,

1099
00:51:22,400 --> 00:51:25,320
Speaker 3: is the jury still out on whether this move is

1100
00:51:25,320 --> 00:51:27,359
Speaker 3: is is gonna make sense for him?

1101
00:51:28,960 --> 00:51:32,919
Speaker 1: Yeah? Yeah, I think so. It's without really knowing what

1102
00:51:33,000 --> 00:51:35,000
Speaker 1: the cut to one forty five did to him. It's

1103
00:51:35,000 --> 00:51:37,799
Speaker 1: hard to answer this question because you know, you can

1104
00:51:37,840 --> 00:51:39,920
Speaker 1: make one forty five at twenty eight, and then you

1105
00:51:39,960 --> 00:51:41,960
Speaker 1: try at thirty two, it's gonna be a lot harder.

1106
00:51:42,000 --> 00:51:44,200
Speaker 1: So we just don't really know the answer there. It's

1107
00:51:44,239 --> 00:51:45,959
Speaker 1: just that, like on tape, you look at moy connor,

1108
00:51:46,000 --> 00:51:47,640
Speaker 1: you're like, wow, man, this guy can do a lot

1109
00:51:47,719 --> 00:51:50,440
Speaker 1: like he's he's pretty well round, he's pretty talented, and

1110
00:51:50,480 --> 00:51:52,799
Speaker 1: then he just came up short. The Korean zombie rolled

1111
00:51:52,880 --> 00:51:54,960
Speaker 1: the room. But you know, I always go back to this,

1112
00:51:55,080 --> 00:51:57,760
Speaker 1: he was beating Brian Ortega up until the last second.

1113
00:51:58,760 --> 00:52:01,720
Speaker 1: Ortega pulled out a last minute submission out of nowhere,

1114
00:52:01,760 --> 00:52:04,200
Speaker 1: but Waikana was beating him thoroughly. And I'll never forget.

1115
00:52:04,560 --> 00:52:06,879
Speaker 1: I was in the backstage. This was the week where

1116
00:52:06,920 --> 00:52:08,880
Speaker 1: John Jones told me he was my best friend. It

1117
00:52:08,920 --> 00:52:11,680
Speaker 1: was so it was Jones Cormier two, right, That's what

1118
00:52:11,719 --> 00:52:14,160
Speaker 1: it was. And so I was in the back where

1119
00:52:14,160 --> 00:52:16,319
Speaker 1: they bring all the winners, and they brought uh, they

1120
00:52:16,360 --> 00:52:19,000
Speaker 1: brought Brian Ortaga back, and Henry Gracie was with him.

1121
00:52:19,120 --> 00:52:21,160
Speaker 1: He could barely walk. He was sitting there and I

1122
00:52:21,200 --> 00:52:22,600
Speaker 1: remember he sat and he went. He just let out

1123
00:52:22,640 --> 00:52:26,120
Speaker 1: the sigh like like he was suffering. So credit to

1124
00:52:26,120 --> 00:52:28,720
Speaker 1: Brian Rotaker for getting that win. But dude moy Kano

1125
00:52:28,800 --> 00:52:31,480
Speaker 1: gave him the business for the majority of that contest.

1126
00:52:31,480 --> 00:52:33,920
Speaker 1: So he's a talented guy, but hasn't been able to

1127
00:52:33,960 --> 00:52:35,760
Speaker 1: get over that hump. And this is a really curious

1128
00:52:35,800 --> 00:52:36,400
Speaker 1: and interesting.

1129
00:52:36,160 --> 00:52:38,600
Speaker 3: Now to be fair, he's actually two in one since

1130
00:52:38,640 --> 00:52:41,480
Speaker 3: going to lightweight. Obviously, the loss was to Raphael Fhazive

1131
00:52:41,600 --> 00:52:43,719
Speaker 3: and that's that's a tough ass out. He's got two

1132
00:52:43,760 --> 00:52:46,160
Speaker 3: submission wins in there. You're not against you know, call

1133
00:52:46,200 --> 00:52:49,000
Speaker 3: home names, but uh I'm interested in both side.

1134
00:52:49,080 --> 00:52:51,480
Speaker 2: Look her, Hernandez is fun, Luke, fun fighter.

1135
00:52:51,800 --> 00:52:53,560
Speaker 1: He is a fun fighter, a fun fighter, even the

1136
00:52:53,600 --> 00:52:55,520
Speaker 1: retooled version is still a pretty fun one. Last thing

1137
00:52:55,560 --> 00:52:59,279
Speaker 1: I'd say, small note, something to pay attention to. I

1138
00:52:59,320 --> 00:53:02,439
Speaker 1: think there I count at least two other fighters from

1139
00:53:02,520 --> 00:53:04,480
Speaker 1: City Kickboxing on this card.

1140
00:53:04,600 --> 00:53:06,600
Speaker 3: Dude, well, blood Diamond get it in.

1141
00:53:07,360 --> 00:53:10,719
Speaker 1: Blood Diamond is one, but also Carlos Olberg who did

1142
00:53:10,760 --> 00:53:12,520
Speaker 1: well in the Contender series and I made his debut

1143
00:53:12,520 --> 00:53:13,799
Speaker 1: and didn't do so great. But this is what I

1144
00:53:13,800 --> 00:53:15,959
Speaker 1: think a chance to get back. I'm just pointing out.

1145
00:53:16,680 --> 00:53:19,520
Speaker 1: I have heard fighters say and see that their losses

1146
00:53:19,520 --> 00:53:21,920
Speaker 1: of their teammates doesn't affect them. I have seen the

1147
00:53:21,920 --> 00:53:25,680
Speaker 1: opposite where the losses did affect them. So obviously not

1148
00:53:25,800 --> 00:53:28,680
Speaker 1: the biggest factor to pay attention to, but something to

1149
00:53:28,719 --> 00:53:30,520
Speaker 1: not lose sight of heading into that main event.

1150
00:53:30,680 --> 00:53:34,319
Speaker 3: All CKB super fans are focused on this one for sure, Luke,

1151
00:53:34,640 --> 00:53:37,640
Speaker 3: No quick, Luke, what would be like, Okay, if Eugene

1152
00:53:37,680 --> 00:53:40,200
Speaker 3: Berriman came to you and he's like, look, we think

1153
00:53:40,200 --> 00:53:43,520
Speaker 3: you're the best, and we know you fucking love us, bro,

1154
00:53:43,680 --> 00:53:46,360
Speaker 3: we know that we know that we got you right,

1155
00:53:46,680 --> 00:53:48,319
Speaker 3: and then they're like, all right, whenever they pay you

1156
00:53:48,360 --> 00:53:50,680
Speaker 3: at Morning Combat, we'll pay you a dollar more than

1157
00:53:50,719 --> 00:53:54,000
Speaker 3: that per year. Come over to City Kickboxing, run our

1158
00:53:54,040 --> 00:53:57,000
Speaker 3: pr run our website, and host our daily podcast. You

1159
00:53:57,080 --> 00:54:00,000
Speaker 3: know what I mean, Luke? Would you sell out because

1160
00:54:00,200 --> 00:54:02,840
Speaker 3: you just love them? I mean you just look you

1161
00:54:02,960 --> 00:54:05,960
Speaker 3: got an Anthony Smith level love for them, and.

1162
00:54:05,920 --> 00:54:07,719
Speaker 1: I respect that. I don't want. I don't want. I mean,

1163
00:54:07,760 --> 00:54:09,480
Speaker 1: I love those guys. You're right, I do. I think

1164
00:54:09,560 --> 00:54:11,960
Speaker 1: very highly of them. No, I want no part of that.

1165
00:54:12,000 --> 00:54:14,239
Speaker 1: I don't want to run someone's fucking website. I don't

1166
00:54:14,239 --> 00:54:15,920
Speaker 1: want to. I don't want to pitch media on how

1167
00:54:15,960 --> 00:54:17,799
Speaker 1: great the fighters are. They might.

1168
00:54:19,520 --> 00:54:20,160
Speaker 3: Not happening.

1169
00:54:20,200 --> 00:54:24,000
Speaker 1: Bro Okay, not that all right? Topic number four here

1170
00:54:24,000 --> 00:54:25,920
Speaker 1: we see. Let's talk about something else that made the news.

1171
00:54:26,160 --> 00:54:28,080
Speaker 1: The UFC had a presser and so there was a

1172
00:54:28,120 --> 00:54:31,000
Speaker 1: big to do about it. Amanda new Ness will now

1173
00:54:31,080 --> 00:54:35,960
Speaker 1: be the coach opposite uh, what's your face? Julian opinion?

1174
00:54:36,080 --> 00:54:40,600
Speaker 1: Only the champion or the cham I had a brain

1175
00:54:40,640 --> 00:54:43,960
Speaker 1: fart sorry the upcoming season Ultimate Fighter. But Amanda new

1176
00:54:44,000 --> 00:54:47,760
Speaker 1: Ness made noise a little bit differently. She was asked

1177
00:54:47,960 --> 00:54:52,000
Speaker 1: about why she changed camps. A couple of things she

1178
00:54:52,160 --> 00:54:55,080
Speaker 1: points to one a knee injury quote. I couldn't do

1179
00:54:55,160 --> 00:54:57,360
Speaker 1: much jiu jitsu a wrestling. I felt it in my

1180
00:54:57,400 --> 00:54:59,600
Speaker 1: warm up on fight night, my body, especially in my arms.

1181
00:54:59,600 --> 00:55:02,360
Speaker 1: Everything that camp was arms. I was only doing boxing,

1182
00:55:02,640 --> 00:55:04,560
Speaker 1: I was only doing upper body when I was warming up,

1183
00:55:04,600 --> 00:55:06,719
Speaker 1: I was like, this is not how my body is.

1184
00:55:06,760 --> 00:55:08,480
Speaker 1: I've been in the game a long time, five years

1185
00:55:08,480 --> 00:55:10,719
Speaker 1: with that belt, five years without. My body has never

1186
00:55:10,760 --> 00:55:12,400
Speaker 1: felt like that. I want you to react in just

1187
00:55:12,440 --> 00:55:15,520
Speaker 1: a second. The other one, though, was well, hold.

1188
00:55:15,320 --> 00:55:16,680
Speaker 2: On, look, let's react now.

1189
00:55:16,719 --> 00:55:20,759
Speaker 3: This is big, Okay, go ahead, this is big if

1190
00:55:20,800 --> 00:55:23,279
Speaker 3: you and again, this is always going to look like

1191
00:55:23,320 --> 00:55:26,200
Speaker 3: taking you know, shade at Juliana Pena, but it's not.

1192
00:55:26,600 --> 00:55:28,359
Speaker 3: But if you're of the belief like I was, that

1193
00:55:28,360 --> 00:55:31,680
Speaker 3: that just was in amanda newness in that fight. You know, obviously,

1194
00:55:31,840 --> 00:55:34,040
Speaker 3: Paina's ability to gass her out in that first round

1195
00:55:34,040 --> 00:55:36,200
Speaker 3: on the ground played a big role. Not saying that,

1196
00:55:36,239 --> 00:55:40,560
Speaker 3: but we saw Amanda implode, gas out and really kind

1197
00:55:40,600 --> 00:55:42,799
Speaker 3: of tap before the choke was ever even in if

1198
00:55:42,800 --> 00:55:46,640
Speaker 3: you want to be hyper critical, but it's true, so

1199
00:55:47,360 --> 00:55:52,359
Speaker 3: to hear that she had legitimate knee injuries and now

1200
00:55:52,400 --> 00:55:55,880
Speaker 3: this is her decision, but felt pressured not to not

1201
00:55:56,000 --> 00:55:58,520
Speaker 3: pull out because she had just pulled out ahead of

1202
00:55:58,520 --> 00:56:03,239
Speaker 3: the August original date because she had COVID. This this

1203
00:56:03,520 --> 00:56:06,960
Speaker 3: justifies a lot in terms of potentially repairing some of

1204
00:56:06,960 --> 00:56:10,520
Speaker 3: that aura she lost. Luke, Sure, it's excuse making to

1205
00:56:10,600 --> 00:56:13,279
Speaker 3: some To me, there's your answer, there's there's the key

1206
00:56:13,320 --> 00:56:14,040
Speaker 3: that fits the hole.

1207
00:56:14,360 --> 00:56:17,040
Speaker 1: I actually feel like I actually feel like, dude, I

1208
00:56:17,400 --> 00:56:22,040
Speaker 1: think this is actually totally reasonable what she's saying. If

1209
00:56:22,040 --> 00:56:25,359
Speaker 1: you're as good as Amanda noonas are you and I

1210
00:56:25,480 --> 00:56:28,600
Speaker 1: to be under the impression that every time she goes

1211
00:56:28,640 --> 00:56:31,840
Speaker 1: out there she felt like a million bucks or something

1212
00:56:31,840 --> 00:56:33,960
Speaker 1: pretty close to it, nagging here and nagging there. But

1213
00:56:34,000 --> 00:56:37,480
Speaker 1: really whatever, No, probably not. She probably had we know

1214
00:56:37,520 --> 00:56:39,200
Speaker 1: about the sinus idis that she was had to pull

1215
00:56:39,280 --> 00:56:42,080
Speaker 1: up from for the the for the rematch with Chefchenko,

1216
00:56:42,320 --> 00:56:44,279
Speaker 1: but it was bad enough she would do it. She

1217
00:56:44,280 --> 00:56:46,280
Speaker 1: didn't want to do that anymore, so she felt pressure

1218
00:56:46,320 --> 00:56:48,680
Speaker 1: to continue. So that was one like, I remember when

1219
00:56:48,680 --> 00:56:52,279
Speaker 1: Amanda Nuona's got fucking roasted for pulling out of that

1220
00:56:52,280 --> 00:56:55,920
Speaker 1: fight last minute, and now you know, uh, she's the goddess,

1221
00:56:55,920 --> 00:56:57,480
Speaker 1: which she should be. But I'm just pointing out.

1222
00:56:57,320 --> 00:56:59,960
Speaker 3: Anna said she'd never had the line of card again, Luke, that's.

1223
00:56:59,800 --> 00:57:02,480
Speaker 1: Right, right, So so the hat to weigh on her.

1224
00:57:02,560 --> 00:57:04,879
Speaker 1: Plus if you could get away with beating people, dude,

1225
00:57:04,880 --> 00:57:06,360
Speaker 1: I mean, she was beating them all in the first

1226
00:57:06,400 --> 00:57:08,800
Speaker 1: fucking round. So what you're.

1227
00:57:08,640 --> 00:57:13,960
Speaker 3: Really saying is because look, you know, daniel'cormier's back was

1228
00:57:14,080 --> 00:57:16,480
Speaker 3: fed up when he defended against Derek Lewis, but decided

1229
00:57:16,560 --> 00:57:18,200
Speaker 3: to do it given the matchup, you know, in the

1230
00:57:18,200 --> 00:57:22,840
Speaker 3: style contrast, it's happened before. But she thought, this is

1231
00:57:22,880 --> 00:57:25,360
Speaker 3: the right opponent to come in if I have to,

1232
00:57:25,400 --> 00:57:26,600
Speaker 3: if I have to cheat a little, if I have

1233
00:57:26,600 --> 00:57:28,920
Speaker 3: to take a chance, this is the right opponent. Because

1234
00:57:28,920 --> 00:57:30,960
Speaker 3: the same thing that we said ahead of time was true.

1235
00:57:31,000 --> 00:57:35,760
Speaker 3: Paina hadn't beaten anybody impressively enough or name value enough

1236
00:57:35,760 --> 00:57:37,720
Speaker 3: to give you the belief that could have happened. So

1237
00:57:38,240 --> 00:57:40,840
Speaker 3: I do see how this could have happened. Because but

1238
00:57:40,920 --> 00:57:44,240
Speaker 3: the thing is, Luke, how much should we stigmatize the

1239
00:57:44,280 --> 00:57:47,720
Speaker 3: idea of consecutive pulling out of a fight if it's

1240
00:57:47,760 --> 00:57:51,160
Speaker 3: both warranted to your health, Like just like Caine, shouldn't

1241
00:57:51,200 --> 00:57:54,520
Speaker 3: have fought JDS the first time with a knee injury

1242
00:57:54,560 --> 00:57:57,480
Speaker 3: that bad, but probably with no leverage. Felt pressure because

1243
00:57:57,600 --> 00:58:00,360
Speaker 3: it was the kickoff card of the Fox UFC relationship

1244
00:58:00,400 --> 00:58:02,160
Speaker 3: and it was going against the Pacquiao pay per view

1245
00:58:02,160 --> 00:58:04,240
Speaker 3: and it was live and free, and he took it

1246
00:58:04,280 --> 00:58:08,920
Speaker 3: and he lost that mentality you don't see much anymore.

1247
00:58:09,080 --> 00:58:10,960
Speaker 3: Do you think she felt she painted herself into a

1248
00:58:11,000 --> 00:58:12,440
Speaker 3: hole with the I mean.

1249
00:58:12,320 --> 00:58:15,240
Speaker 1: Like the thing is with MMA. The things with MMA

1250
00:58:15,360 --> 00:58:18,240
Speaker 1: is way more injuries than with boxing, right, because you

1251
00:58:18,240 --> 00:58:20,960
Speaker 1: have knee tears and you're wrestling and you're doing everything

1252
00:58:20,960 --> 00:58:23,640
Speaker 1: else way more. All these guys, these old fighters who

1253
00:58:23,760 --> 00:58:25,240
Speaker 1: like do boxing, grand they're not doing it at the

1254
00:58:25,280 --> 00:58:27,560
Speaker 1: elite level, but they're all like the difference in training

1255
00:58:27,560 --> 00:58:30,400
Speaker 1: in terms of the weight on my body, so to speak,

1256
00:58:30,640 --> 00:58:33,600
Speaker 1: is just significantly less. And if you're a headliner, you

1257
00:58:33,680 --> 00:58:36,280
Speaker 1: got to make a call because if you're the you're

1258
00:58:36,520 --> 00:58:38,880
Speaker 1: you're the double champ, you're the goat. You have a

1259
00:58:38,880 --> 00:58:40,920
Speaker 1: call to make. You know, you're better than most of

1260
00:58:40,960 --> 00:58:43,640
Speaker 1: your contemporaries, probably all of them on your best day, right,

1261
00:58:44,240 --> 00:58:47,680
Speaker 1: but you're injured, and yet you owe or you might

1262
00:58:47,720 --> 00:58:49,760
Speaker 1: feel like you owe the fans and the promoter or

1263
00:58:49,800 --> 00:58:51,560
Speaker 1: you at a bare minimum, you don't want the negative

1264
00:58:51,600 --> 00:58:53,720
Speaker 1: consequence that comes with pulling out. So you're only gonna

1265
00:58:53,720 --> 00:58:56,640
Speaker 1: pull out if you just cannot perform whatever. A lot

1266
00:58:56,680 --> 00:58:58,800
Speaker 1: of times you're just gonna take risks. The question you

1267
00:58:58,840 --> 00:59:03,120
Speaker 1: have to ask yourself is if every UFC headliner pulled

1268
00:59:03,160 --> 00:59:06,480
Speaker 1: out when they had a medically justifiable reason to do so,

1269
00:59:07,160 --> 00:59:10,040
Speaker 1: how many fights would fall through? I gotta tell you, BC,

1270
00:59:10,240 --> 00:59:11,920
Speaker 1: I don't want to know the answer to that question.

1271
00:59:12,200 --> 00:59:13,920
Speaker 3: And to be fair, you know, there had been certain

1272
00:59:13,960 --> 00:59:17,000
Speaker 3: stretches in the last decade where that had become a problem.

1273
00:59:17,080 --> 00:59:20,000
Speaker 3: Remember twenty twelve around that era. I remember again in

1274
00:59:20,040 --> 00:59:22,640
Speaker 3: the twenty fourteen to fifteen area, it was like, yep,

1275
00:59:22,880 --> 00:59:25,320
Speaker 3: you know, it became a thing on Twitter to say, oh, UFC,

1276
00:59:25,360 --> 00:59:28,200
Speaker 3: can't you know come through? Yeah, and you know, and

1277
00:59:28,240 --> 00:59:30,520
Speaker 3: it obviously hurts business. As a fan, you don't like

1278
00:59:30,560 --> 00:59:33,320
Speaker 3: it either, But man, that's a tough decision to make.

1279
00:59:33,360 --> 00:59:35,919
Speaker 3: And again, I think she saw the odds in terms

1280
00:59:35,960 --> 00:59:38,520
Speaker 3: of who she's fighting. But you know one thing she

1281
00:59:38,600 --> 00:59:41,480
Speaker 3: didn't take into account Julianna Panna's fighting spirit, and that's

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Speaker 3: why she ended up winning it. And it was impressive,

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00:59:43,360 --> 00:59:45,439
Speaker 3: and I'm glad she's having her moment. I think this

1284
00:59:45,600 --> 00:59:49,440
Speaker 3: adds more angles, certainly to the storyline of them coaching

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00:59:49,440 --> 00:59:51,080
Speaker 3: against each other and then the fight at the end

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Speaker 3: of it, which gives Amanda more than enough time to

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Speaker 3: figure everything out. Yeah, but we got more Amanda quotes

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Speaker 3: to talk about her little well.

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Speaker 1: I was just gonna say. The one thing I would

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Speaker 1: add is this is way to understand it about Amanda

1291
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Speaker 1: Nuns or any elite fighter. This is why prep and

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Speaker 1: peeking is so critical, because this is the point. You

1293
01:00:09,320 --> 01:00:10,960
Speaker 1: can apply it to this fight, you can apply it

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Speaker 1: to the next one. Is there a difference in overall

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01:00:14,040 --> 01:00:17,440
Speaker 1: ability that we have seen between Nunez and Pina, Yes,

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Speaker 1: of course. But the question is if someone is somewhat compromised,

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Speaker 1: they don't have to be that far down as long

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Speaker 1: as their competitor is having their best night. And I

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Speaker 1: would argue that Penya, dude, she stood in the fucking

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Speaker 1: pocket and she slugged with her pretty impressively. I gotta say,

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01:00:34,080 --> 01:00:36,320
Speaker 1: backing her up at times by just eating a punch

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Speaker 1: and then delivering one back. And maybe it was as hard,

1303
01:00:38,560 --> 01:00:40,920
Speaker 1: maybe it wasn't. This is the point. All it takes

1304
01:00:40,960 --> 01:00:43,280
Speaker 1: is for one elite competitor to be not at their

1305
01:00:43,320 --> 01:00:47,240
Speaker 1: best and for a contender to have a great night,

1306
01:00:47,360 --> 01:00:49,800
Speaker 1: and they are either equal or the contender will pass.

1307
01:00:49,960 --> 01:00:55,520
Speaker 1: The margin for error is fucking thin at that level.

1308
01:00:55,560 --> 01:00:57,560
Speaker 1: And so when you have a knee injury and we

1309
01:00:57,600 --> 01:01:00,320
Speaker 1: have COVID and all this other shit, yeah, it's gonna

1310
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Speaker 1: fuck you up. And she didn't want to pull out,

1311
01:01:01,920 --> 01:01:04,000
Speaker 1: I understand, but it probably cost her her title in

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Speaker 1: the end. Here's the other coach or the other speaking

1313
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Speaker 1: of the coach, here's the other quote you wanted to

1314
01:01:08,320 --> 01:01:10,960
Speaker 1: get to on who will coach her moving forward? She

1315
01:01:11,240 --> 01:01:13,920
Speaker 1: indicated at this presser it was no beef with Att.

1316
01:01:14,160 --> 01:01:17,840
Speaker 1: She just wanted her own thing BC. In boxing, everyone

1317
01:01:17,880 --> 01:01:20,160
Speaker 1: who is an elite fighter has their own thing. Canelo

1318
01:01:20,240 --> 01:01:22,880
Speaker 1: has his own thing, whoever had Anthony Joshua has his

1319
01:01:22,920 --> 01:01:25,520
Speaker 1: own thing, and they build around that. MMA fighters have

1320
01:01:25,560 --> 01:01:27,400
Speaker 1: to wait till they have more money before they can

1321
01:01:27,440 --> 01:01:30,080
Speaker 1: build that. She's got it. This is to me, in

1322
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Speaker 1: no way an indictment on Att from what I can

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Speaker 1: tell anyway, It's just a recognition she has graduated past

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01:01:36,840 --> 01:01:40,080
Speaker 1: that level of training, that kind of training because of

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Speaker 1: who she is. But here's what she says. Quote, Actually

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Speaker 1: that was something I want to do different too, But

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Speaker 1: the coaches used to be different At American Top Team.

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Speaker 1: It's Tommy Barzini. He used to be the wrestling coach.

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Speaker 1: When I got there, I started training wrestling with him.

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Speaker 1: At ATT, they ended up leaving, so I trained with

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Speaker 1: Mike Brown and Roger Krawl. Roger was ATT two. It

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01:01:58,600 --> 01:02:00,880
Speaker 1: comes from that, it comes from the ATT anyways, they're

1333
01:02:00,920 --> 01:02:02,760
Speaker 1: not there, but I'm pretty sure the coaches at ATT

1334
01:02:03,160 --> 01:02:05,760
Speaker 1: really have amazing moments that they'll always remember talking about

1335
01:02:05,760 --> 01:02:08,640
Speaker 1: with her as well. So partly it was having the

1336
01:02:08,720 --> 01:02:11,760
Speaker 1: freedom to associate with who you want to associate with,

1337
01:02:12,000 --> 01:02:14,360
Speaker 1: You're not dictated to by who the brand has an

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Speaker 1: associable well.

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Speaker 2: And also it seems reasonable.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's very reasonable, especially because the two coaches she's

1341
01:02:19,240 --> 01:02:22,520
Speaker 3: replacing ATT with are former ATT coaches, so she had

1342
01:02:22,560 --> 01:02:25,080
Speaker 3: a you know, relationship bill at a very key time.

1343
01:02:25,520 --> 01:02:27,800
Speaker 3: But also, Luke, and I'm not saying this was one

1344
01:02:27,880 --> 01:02:32,000
Speaker 3: hundred percent fueling or fifty percent or whatever, but some percentages. Also,

1345
01:02:32,080 --> 01:02:33,480
Speaker 3: I'm a man in newnes some' of the greatest of

1346
01:02:33,520 --> 01:02:36,520
Speaker 3: all time, and I'm just another cog in the machine

1347
01:02:36,520 --> 01:02:39,560
Speaker 3: of this super team att that that turns people out,

1348
01:02:39,920 --> 01:02:42,360
Speaker 3: you know, it turns these killers out left and right.

1349
01:02:42,400 --> 01:02:43,440
Speaker 2: And some of that comes.

1350
01:02:43,240 --> 01:02:47,440
Speaker 3: And shared coaching time and shared publicity, all of that.

1351
01:02:47,520 --> 01:02:49,960
Speaker 3: And then when you look at you know, when someone

1352
01:02:50,200 --> 01:02:52,840
Speaker 3: has a Trevor Whitman or somebody with a small, very

1353
01:02:52,840 --> 01:02:58,040
Speaker 3: small stable get, you get a much more intense Maybe

1354
01:02:58,040 --> 01:03:00,600
Speaker 3: maybe it makes you feel like you're the one, Luke.

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01:03:00,960 --> 01:03:02,840
Speaker 2: That's why. Look, that's all we want to feel like

1356
01:03:02,840 --> 01:03:04,040
Speaker 2: at the end of the day, right.

1357
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Speaker 1: That's really that's why we're gonna bounce you from this

1358
01:03:06,000 --> 01:03:10,400
Speaker 1: programs hashtag producer credit all right. In general, though, I

1359
01:03:10,440 --> 01:03:12,400
Speaker 1: have to say, you know, you know me and the

1360
01:03:12,400 --> 01:03:14,960
Speaker 1: feelings about the first fight with Nunez and Peena. I

1361
01:03:15,840 --> 01:03:19,480
Speaker 1: don't take Nunez as a weak person. I don't take

1362
01:03:19,560 --> 01:03:22,240
Speaker 1: her as a lingerer. I think if she says she

1363
01:03:22,320 --> 01:03:25,640
Speaker 1: had these injuries, I'm extreme, dude. If you can't give

1364
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Speaker 1: the benefit of the doubt to the greatest women's fighter

1365
01:03:29,200 --> 01:03:32,360
Speaker 1: we've ever fucking seen, who can you give the benefit

1366
01:03:32,440 --> 01:03:33,480
Speaker 1: of the doubts too?

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Speaker 3: Not just that Luke, like she wilted, Like she doesn't

1368
01:03:37,320 --> 01:03:39,880
Speaker 3: do that, she doesn't do that, you know what I mean, Like,

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Speaker 3: she hasn't had stam in the issue since the very

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Speaker 3: since her last loss before that to kantzing Gano, and

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Speaker 3: it was like that changed her. It took her a

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Speaker 3: while to build up five round stamina to out duel

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01:03:51,000 --> 01:03:53,960
Speaker 3: chef Chenko, but you know she got there. So no,

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01:03:54,120 --> 01:03:55,680
Speaker 3: she wilted in too many ways. And we do have

1375
01:03:55,720 --> 01:03:57,880
Speaker 3: to also mention she hadn't had to make one thirty

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01:03:57,880 --> 01:04:00,760
Speaker 3: five in two years, so now she's hurt and can't

1377
01:04:01,080 --> 01:04:04,200
Speaker 3: do the same cardio build and you know, nothing about

1378
01:04:04,200 --> 01:04:06,560
Speaker 3: this was easy, Luke, But you're right. She took that

1379
01:04:06,600 --> 01:04:09,040
Speaker 3: gamble and she lost, and now we've got a rematch

1380
01:04:09,240 --> 01:04:10,480
Speaker 3: that's worth getting fired up for.

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Speaker 2: So it worked. It may it worked off, you know,

1382
01:04:12,440 --> 01:04:13,720
Speaker 2: the best for everybody in the air.

1383
01:04:13,800 --> 01:04:17,480
Speaker 1: Whenever we do like predictions or whatever whatever anyone does predictions,

1384
01:04:17,480 --> 01:04:19,720
Speaker 1: what do we always do? We always try to imagine

1385
01:04:19,760 --> 01:04:21,880
Speaker 1: each fighter as their best self, and how do they

1386
01:04:21,920 --> 01:04:26,120
Speaker 1: pair Amanda at her best self? Truly dialed in, no injuries,

1387
01:04:26,160 --> 01:04:29,439
Speaker 1: fuck COVID, all that nonsense. She's feeling great, She's gonna

1388
01:04:29,440 --> 01:04:32,360
Speaker 1: be pretty hard to beat. But the reality is, by

1389
01:04:32,400 --> 01:04:35,160
Speaker 1: the time they get into the cage, to compete. They

1390
01:04:35,200 --> 01:04:39,480
Speaker 1: are routinely lesser versions of their best self, sometimes dramatically so.

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01:04:40,160 --> 01:04:44,000
Speaker 1: And that debate who's gonna win is a completely different

1392
01:04:44,000 --> 01:04:47,120
Speaker 1: debate than who the very best are at this abstract

1393
01:04:47,160 --> 01:04:49,880
Speaker 1: sort of idea. All right, you see last but not

1394
01:04:50,040 --> 01:04:53,960
Speaker 1: least topics topics true or false? So here is the topic.

1395
01:04:54,000 --> 01:04:57,720
Speaker 1: Kamar Usman is going to get apparently hand surgery. So

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01:04:57,840 --> 01:04:59,960
Speaker 1: here is my true or false? According to his men,

1397
01:05:00,240 --> 01:05:03,440
Speaker 1: Ali Abdelazi's from Dominance Mma. He confirmed it to ESPN.

1398
01:05:04,200 --> 01:05:11,320
Speaker 1: True or false. Kamaro Usman will fight on International Fight

1399
01:05:11,360 --> 01:05:13,600
Speaker 1: Week to defend his welterweight title. Truth.

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Speaker 3: I'm telling you that that seems to be true from

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01:05:16,240 --> 01:05:19,120
Speaker 3: what you hear about his intentions of what Leon Edwards'

1402
01:05:19,240 --> 01:05:21,320
Speaker 3: team is saying, and that would make sense for that

1403
01:05:21,360 --> 01:05:23,840
Speaker 3: to be the next title defense. I'm a little bit

1404
01:05:23,840 --> 01:05:26,560
Speaker 3: more shaken up at the not safe for work images

1405
01:05:26,640 --> 01:05:29,080
Speaker 3: of the surgery that uh I didn't see them, that

1406
01:05:29,200 --> 01:05:32,560
Speaker 3: Dana tweeted out of like you know, Usmann's hand opened up,

1407
01:05:32,560 --> 01:05:34,800
Speaker 3: Like I wasn't prepared for that with the coffee on

1408
01:05:34,840 --> 01:05:37,160
Speaker 3: the on the scroll in the morning, you know, on ig.

1409
01:05:37,400 --> 01:05:41,520
Speaker 3: But but outside of that, Luke yeah, man he he

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01:05:41,600 --> 01:05:44,280
Speaker 3: wants to God, wants to be great, Luke. I mean

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01:05:44,280 --> 01:05:47,520
Speaker 3: he wants to be freaking great. I really think he's

1412
01:05:47,560 --> 01:05:50,840
Speaker 3: maximizing the last couple of years and fights he has

1413
01:05:50,920 --> 01:05:54,480
Speaker 3: left and looking at the options and and and uh,

1414
01:05:54,600 --> 01:05:57,200
Speaker 3: he's a he's a smart dude with Luke, very smart guy.

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01:05:57,520 --> 01:05:59,760
Speaker 1: He is a smart guy, and he is finally getting

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01:06:00,120 --> 01:06:03,560
Speaker 1: the rewards he deserves. All right, more true or false? Uh,

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01:06:03,640 --> 01:06:05,240
Speaker 1: here's my I'll read it to you, and then I

1418
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Speaker 1: want to ask you the question. Nick Maximov or Maximov,

1419
01:06:08,920 --> 01:06:10,680
Speaker 1: I don't know how to pronounce his name properly. He

1420
01:06:10,760 --> 01:06:13,880
Speaker 1: has called out Hamzat Chimayav quote to this to ariel

1421
01:06:13,880 --> 01:06:17,520
Speaker 1: Over at the MMA hour. Uh, Komzot's fighting all these

1422
01:06:17,520 --> 01:06:19,720
Speaker 1: little ass guys. But I'd like to fight him. Next

1423
01:06:19,760 --> 01:06:21,640
Speaker 1: he tries to call out Nate and Nick, It's like,

1424
01:06:21,680 --> 01:06:23,520
Speaker 1: fight me. Then we're both in the same boat. But

1425
01:06:23,600 --> 01:06:25,200
Speaker 1: why are people scared of him? You know what I'm saying.

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01:06:25,320 --> 01:06:27,200
Speaker 1: He hasn't fought any wrestlers. He's a wrestler, but he

1427
01:06:27,240 --> 01:06:29,640
Speaker 1: hasn't fought any wrestlers. So I'm like, what the fuck?

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01:06:30,000 --> 01:06:32,200
Speaker 1: He's fought MMA fighters and I'm a martial arts, who

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01:06:32,240 --> 01:06:34,240
Speaker 1: can wrestle. I just made the record for takedowns in

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Speaker 1: my second UFC fight. In my second UFC fight, I

1431
01:06:36,400 --> 01:06:39,080
Speaker 1: was a comin event. So who else is doing that?

1432
01:06:39,400 --> 01:06:42,880
Speaker 1: True or false? Nick Maximov will usher in an epic

1433
01:06:42,960 --> 01:06:46,840
Speaker 1: beating of world renowned proportions if he takes a fight

1434
01:06:46,880 --> 01:06:47,640
Speaker 1: with Hamza Chramai.

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01:06:47,960 --> 01:06:49,080
Speaker 2: No, wow, Look.

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01:06:49,000 --> 01:06:51,960
Speaker 3: That all signs a point to true. Unfortunately, but I

1437
01:06:52,240 --> 01:06:54,480
Speaker 3: would tune in every week to hear you do more.

1438
01:06:54,520 --> 01:06:57,680
Speaker 3: Stock didn't speak. I was really enjoying that a lot.

1439
01:06:57,880 --> 01:07:02,040
Speaker 3: Uh yeah, Luke, dude, he'd bit he's got day one

1440
01:07:02,120 --> 01:07:04,600
Speaker 3: two oh nine fever right now. I mean he's feeling it.

1441
01:07:04,640 --> 01:07:07,320
Speaker 3: But look he's he Look he's a good fighter.

1442
01:07:07,400 --> 01:07:08,000
Speaker 2: He showed that.

1443
01:07:08,040 --> 01:07:09,919
Speaker 3: It was you know, it's not the it's not gonna

1444
01:07:09,960 --> 01:07:11,720
Speaker 3: be the I pleasing win. But I mean he shut

1445
01:07:11,760 --> 01:07:15,320
Speaker 3: down Punole's Soriano. I know Soriano fell awkwardly and hurt

1446
01:07:15,320 --> 01:07:17,400
Speaker 3: his leg in that fight, and it played a role,

1447
01:07:17,480 --> 01:07:21,400
Speaker 3: no question, as he gutted it through. But uh, man,

1448
01:07:21,440 --> 01:07:24,800
Speaker 3: Maximov's got that Diaz level want for the smoke. Luke, Okay,

1449
01:07:24,840 --> 01:07:27,760
Speaker 3: so we're gonna find out. Uh, I'm gonna find out

1450
01:07:27,760 --> 01:07:30,160
Speaker 3: if he can sit on the end of that cypress hill.

1451
01:07:30,600 --> 01:07:32,720
Speaker 3: Have you seen this shit gun and take in that

1452
01:07:32,960 --> 01:07:35,800
Speaker 3: entire waste of weed air Luke and just you know,

1453
01:07:35,840 --> 01:07:38,400
Speaker 3: can he can he put the face mask and backpack

1454
01:07:38,440 --> 01:07:40,360
Speaker 3: on and handle it? You know what I'm saying?

1455
01:07:40,800 --> 01:07:42,439
Speaker 1: All right? Can we move on to the last two

1456
01:07:42,480 --> 01:07:44,960
Speaker 1: or falls? By the way, every time someone tweets me

1457
01:07:44,960 --> 01:07:48,480
Speaker 1: about your slav Amasov, it's your slav. I'm a slav

1458
01:07:48,680 --> 01:07:51,720
Speaker 1: every fucking time, now, Okay. But he is gonna be

1459
01:07:51,800 --> 01:07:55,120
Speaker 1: defending his title against MVP May thirteenth in belat Or London.

1460
01:07:55,640 --> 01:07:58,600
Speaker 1: Here's the interesting news. Co main event was announced Welter

1461
01:07:58,640 --> 01:08:00,600
Speaker 1: Waite as well former champ who has been on a

1462
01:08:00,760 --> 01:08:03,680
Speaker 1: rough run, Douglas Lima, is going to take on a

1463
01:08:03,760 --> 01:08:06,200
Speaker 1: guy that Rashad Evans has been in our ear about

1464
01:08:06,240 --> 01:08:09,840
Speaker 1: now for a while, Jason Jackson. Now, Jason Jackson has

1465
01:08:09,840 --> 01:08:11,720
Speaker 1: been fighting a lot of one to seventy five catchwights.

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01:08:11,720 --> 01:08:13,880
Speaker 1: He fought Semtex and some other guys. But this will

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Speaker 1: be at one seventy BC true or false, Jason Jackson

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01:08:17,160 --> 01:08:19,600
Speaker 1: is going to defeat Douglas Lima on May thirteenth.

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Speaker 3: Wow, Wow, Wow, you know it's in play given the

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01:08:25,120 --> 01:08:29,479
Speaker 3: losing streak for Lima and the direction things are here

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01:08:29,520 --> 01:08:31,639
Speaker 3: to you know, appear to be going Are they going

1472
01:08:31,960 --> 01:08:34,880
Speaker 3: crazy rapidly? Well, we're gonna find out with this fight.

1473
01:08:35,400 --> 01:08:38,519
Speaker 3: And it's because for for Douglas Lima to dial it

1474
01:08:38,600 --> 01:08:42,639
Speaker 3: back and beat you know, a fight of this confident

1475
01:08:42,760 --> 01:08:45,519
Speaker 3: on such a good streak, who looks very strong and

1476
01:08:45,600 --> 01:08:50,080
Speaker 3: has learned, you know, from his missteps up until this point.

1477
01:08:50,400 --> 01:08:53,720
Speaker 3: I don't know he Look, he did rely on wrestling

1478
01:08:53,760 --> 01:08:56,200
Speaker 3: the last time we saw him, you know, In this

1479
01:08:56,280 --> 01:08:58,800
Speaker 3: slide that he's on, Douglas Lima, it looked like he

1480
01:08:58,920 --> 01:09:03,040
Speaker 3: was more willing to not laying prey but strategically use

1481
01:09:03,120 --> 01:09:05,640
Speaker 3: his offensive wrestling more than when he was on that

1482
01:09:05,760 --> 01:09:10,400
Speaker 3: striking run of kicking holes in people's legs. I don't

1483
01:09:10,439 --> 01:09:12,599
Speaker 3: think that works even against this, you know, in this fight.

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01:09:14,960 --> 01:09:17,360
Speaker 1: I don't know what to expect from this one. Because

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01:09:17,360 --> 01:09:18,560
Speaker 1: here's what I would say. It gets back to the

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01:09:18,640 --> 01:09:22,439
Speaker 1: Nunez and Painia debate. Douglas Lima at his best has

1487
01:09:22,560 --> 01:09:25,240
Speaker 1: done better work than Jason Jackson. Matter of factly he'd

1488
01:09:25,240 --> 01:09:28,639
Speaker 1: beat Rory McDonald right. But I don't know what kind

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01:09:28,640 --> 01:09:30,840
Speaker 1: of Douglas Lima we got, right, now because he has

1490
01:09:30,920 --> 01:09:33,360
Speaker 1: been in a tough stretch. Now he's not fighting chumps,

1491
01:09:33,400 --> 01:09:35,879
Speaker 1: but at the same time he hasn't he just And

1492
01:09:35,600 --> 01:09:37,479
Speaker 1: the part about it BC is not that he was

1493
01:09:37,520 --> 01:09:39,920
Speaker 1: like he had these gritty performances and he's like close

1494
01:09:39,920 --> 01:09:42,840
Speaker 1: split decisions. He just didn't really show up at times

1495
01:09:42,920 --> 01:09:45,679
Speaker 1: or too late or whatever. It wasn't there was something

1496
01:09:45,720 --> 01:09:48,160
Speaker 1: missing a little bit. Jason Jackson and I say this

1497
01:09:48,200 --> 01:09:49,760
Speaker 1: as a compliment. We say this in the Marine Corps

1498
01:09:49,800 --> 01:09:52,160
Speaker 1: that dude is full of vinegar and piss. He is

1499
01:09:52,360 --> 01:09:55,320
Speaker 1: looking for the kinds of accolades and card positions that

1500
01:09:55,360 --> 01:09:58,880
Speaker 1: Douglas Lima has been enjoying, and this is his chance

1501
01:09:58,960 --> 01:10:02,000
Speaker 1: to get it. Co made event. Plus the weight classer

1502
01:10:02,080 --> 01:10:05,040
Speaker 1: fighting this dude in the title is being held one

1503
01:10:05,040 --> 01:10:07,720
Speaker 1: fight above you. You would imagine if Jackson wins. I don't

1504
01:10:07,720 --> 01:10:10,160
Speaker 1: know about Lima, but if Jackson wins, he probably is

1505
01:10:10,160 --> 01:10:12,479
Speaker 1: going to get a title shot against Amasov or MV

1506
01:10:12,600 --> 01:10:15,000
Speaker 1: who ends up being So these are big fucking stakes

1507
01:10:15,040 --> 01:10:17,360
Speaker 1: for a guy who has not been in this position.

1508
01:10:17,400 --> 01:10:18,800
Speaker 1: And again I want to say it one more time, dude,

1509
01:10:18,800 --> 01:10:21,280
Speaker 1: were shot Evans true falls with another one. He has

1510
01:10:21,320 --> 01:10:24,000
Speaker 1: been in our ear yeah, Jason Jackson.

1511
01:10:23,840 --> 01:10:27,599
Speaker 3: Absolutely, and the guy shown shown some next level hunger

1512
01:10:27,600 --> 01:10:31,439
Speaker 3: in there, Luke, and I think he's figuring out, you know,

1513
01:10:31,520 --> 01:10:34,000
Speaker 3: how to enter with the right mindset and strategy in

1514
01:10:34,040 --> 01:10:36,760
Speaker 3: some of these higher level fights. And this is that

1515
01:10:36,880 --> 01:10:39,120
Speaker 3: It's like I want to I want to believe, Luke,

1516
01:10:39,160 --> 01:10:42,440
Speaker 3: because Lima's three fight losing skit is only against great fighters,

1517
01:10:43,439 --> 01:10:44,960
Speaker 3: and one of them he moved up in wait to

1518
01:10:45,000 --> 01:10:47,760
Speaker 3: fight Gaegard and you know, he did lose by split

1519
01:10:47,840 --> 01:10:50,800
Speaker 3: decision against MVP. I know it was wrestle heavy, a

1520
01:10:50,800 --> 01:10:53,280
Speaker 3: little bit boring, but he did turn the tables and

1521
01:10:53,640 --> 01:10:56,120
Speaker 3: I mean he's he could just kind of at thirty

1522
01:10:56,120 --> 01:10:59,320
Speaker 3: four bounce back from whatever funk he was on. But

1523
01:10:59,400 --> 01:11:02,360
Speaker 3: I just didn't see that the spirit left in him

1524
01:11:02,360 --> 01:11:05,439
Speaker 3: against MVP, even with the strategic move to the ground. Luke,

1525
01:11:05,439 --> 01:11:07,280
Speaker 3: I just didn't. I just didn't see that that that

1526
01:11:07,320 --> 01:11:08,320
Speaker 3: flame anymore. Man.

1527
01:11:09,720 --> 01:11:13,080
Speaker 1: I agree. I really wonder about that as well. So

1528
01:11:13,160 --> 01:11:14,680
Speaker 1: we'll have to see. But that is it for the

1529
01:11:14,720 --> 01:11:17,280
Speaker 1: top five topics. Good sir, I think it's it's time

1530
01:11:17,360 --> 01:11:18,639
Speaker 1: for your next segment.

1531
01:11:19,160 --> 01:11:21,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, Luke, what do we do on Wednesdays to

1532
01:11:21,200 --> 01:11:24,679
Speaker 3: fill time? BAC come up with a damn segment. So, Luke,

1533
01:11:24,720 --> 01:11:26,720
Speaker 3: this one is popular from time to time. Let's see

1534
01:11:26,920 --> 01:11:29,439
Speaker 3: if it falls flat on its face. Right now, I

1535
01:11:29,520 --> 01:11:33,040
Speaker 3: present to you ten different numbers. You tell me from

1536
01:11:33,040 --> 01:11:35,600
Speaker 3: the ship, I'm telling you, Luke, is it over or

1537
01:11:35,680 --> 01:11:36,320
Speaker 3: is it under?

1538
01:11:40,600 --> 01:11:43,320
Speaker 1: Oh? I like this like the graphic too.

1539
01:11:43,560 --> 01:11:45,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, that's well done there from the from the

1540
01:11:45,800 --> 01:11:48,600
Speaker 3: MK Malka team there, shout him out. Uh Luke, we

1541
01:11:48,720 --> 01:11:49,360
Speaker 3: start off here.

1542
01:11:49,439 --> 01:11:50,000
Speaker 2: Number one.

1543
01:11:50,800 --> 01:11:53,360
Speaker 3: The number we're talking about is one point five one

1544
01:11:53,400 --> 01:11:56,919
Speaker 3: and a half the total number of UFC or Bellator

1545
01:11:57,040 --> 01:12:00,639
Speaker 3: MMA fight cards that Luke Thomas will attend in person

1546
01:12:01,040 --> 01:12:02,080
Speaker 3: in twenty twenty two.

1547
01:12:02,800 --> 01:12:05,479
Speaker 1: I attended, Dude, since I've partnered with you, and by

1548
01:12:05,479 --> 01:12:07,080
Speaker 1: the way, I'm very happy about this, but since I've

1549
01:12:07,080 --> 01:12:09,240
Speaker 1: partnered with you, I attend way more boxing than I

1550
01:12:09,240 --> 01:12:13,519
Speaker 1: do MMA. Okay, So are you saying if I attend

1551
01:12:13,600 --> 01:12:17,120
Speaker 1: one Belatore and one UFC that council, that.

1552
01:12:17,080 --> 01:12:18,719
Speaker 3: Would be two total numbers.

1553
01:12:20,000 --> 01:12:22,080
Speaker 1: We're already one month down, so I have eleven months

1554
01:12:22,160 --> 01:12:27,360
Speaker 1: to do it. I'll say over. I'll say I'll go

1555
01:12:27,400 --> 01:12:29,080
Speaker 1: to because I feel like they're going to make me

1556
01:12:29,120 --> 01:12:31,880
Speaker 1: go to one MMA fight this year. UFC fight, and

1557
01:12:31,920 --> 01:12:33,719
Speaker 1: then showtime will probably make me go to at least

1558
01:12:33,760 --> 01:12:35,920
Speaker 1: one bellatore. Yeah, I'll say too.

1559
01:12:36,240 --> 01:12:38,080
Speaker 3: I love that You're like, you know, they'll they'll make

1560
01:12:38,120 --> 01:12:41,799
Speaker 3: me do it. They'll they'll over if the motherfucker.

1561
01:12:41,840 --> 01:12:43,720
Speaker 1: If they didn't make me, my chances of going are

1562
01:12:43,760 --> 01:12:44,360
Speaker 1: fairly low.

1563
01:12:44,479 --> 01:12:46,800
Speaker 3: You know, you'll be at International Fight week after we

1564
01:12:46,840 --> 01:12:50,400
Speaker 3: win that podcast award, Luke, and then yeah, you know,

1565
01:12:50,840 --> 01:12:51,400
Speaker 3: I don't.

1566
01:12:51,160 --> 01:12:51,880
Speaker 2: Know if kind of fun.

1567
01:12:51,920 --> 01:12:54,639
Speaker 1: How many of UFC events did we attend? You attended?

1568
01:12:55,439 --> 01:12:59,960
Speaker 1: I only attended the I only Oh, I went to

1569
01:13:00,120 --> 01:13:02,559
Speaker 1: two UFC events. I went to No, I went to

1570
01:13:02,600 --> 01:13:04,479
Speaker 1: the one. I just went to the Connor Trilogy fight.

1571
01:13:04,560 --> 01:13:07,760
Speaker 3: Well, you came during you came to win the award during.

1572
01:13:07,960 --> 01:13:09,760
Speaker 1: The fight, but I didn't apply to credentials and I

1573
01:13:09,760 --> 01:13:12,520
Speaker 1: went home that Saturday morning. I didn't really count.

1574
01:13:12,680 --> 01:13:14,760
Speaker 3: That was That was a Lithuanian exit from you, like

1575
01:13:14,800 --> 01:13:16,800
Speaker 3: you told me in advance what you planned on doing.

1576
01:13:16,840 --> 01:13:18,760
Speaker 3: But it was very in line with my.

1577
01:13:18,680 --> 01:13:20,680
Speaker 1: Definitely, my poor wife needed some help. I had to

1578
01:13:20,680 --> 01:13:22,599
Speaker 1: get home. But yeah, that's fine.

1579
01:13:22,640 --> 01:13:24,960
Speaker 3: Okay, So look, if Connor fights a second time, dude,

1580
01:13:24,960 --> 01:13:26,960
Speaker 3: you're probably there too. I gotta go with over here,

1581
01:13:27,040 --> 01:13:27,360
Speaker 3: I got.

1582
01:13:27,320 --> 01:13:29,240
Speaker 1: To take the over. I'll take the over all.

1583
01:13:29,320 --> 01:13:30,240
Speaker 3: Right, here we go number two.

1584
01:13:30,280 --> 01:13:32,000
Speaker 2: The number is five and a half.

1585
01:13:32,080 --> 01:13:36,240
Speaker 3: Five point five the amount of top ten UFC welterweight

1586
01:13:36,240 --> 01:13:40,680
Speaker 3: fighters that you would bet money on would lose to

1587
01:13:40,800 --> 01:13:43,599
Speaker 3: number eleven homset Chamaya of if they fought next.

1588
01:13:44,760 --> 01:13:48,360
Speaker 1: Okay, so we're welterweight, not middle Okay, pull that up.

1589
01:13:48,640 --> 01:13:51,840
Speaker 3: Homsad is number eleven. Over under on five and a

1590
01:13:51,880 --> 01:13:58,200
Speaker 3: half fighters believe that you would bet money on Homseet winning.

1591
01:13:59,720 --> 01:14:09,200
Speaker 1: Okay, let me look at this. Wow, that's a good question.

1592
01:14:10,520 --> 01:14:10,880
Speaker 5: My on.

1593
01:14:13,880 --> 01:14:17,639
Speaker 1: Okay, I'll go one. Two.

1594
01:14:18,439 --> 01:14:20,479
Speaker 3: You're gonna say the names at least for entertainment value.

1595
01:14:20,600 --> 01:14:31,439
Speaker 1: Fuck no, they're gonna come killing me. Hell no, three, four, five,

1596
01:14:31,760 --> 01:14:32,799
Speaker 1: I can give you five.

1597
01:14:33,760 --> 01:14:34,759
Speaker 2: Oh the under.

1598
01:14:35,160 --> 01:14:36,639
Speaker 1: Hold hold on, let me see, let me let me see,

1599
01:14:36,720 --> 01:14:43,240
Speaker 1: let me see. Hold on, I'll give you five. I'll

1600
01:14:43,240 --> 01:14:45,240
Speaker 1: take the under. I can't go with some of these

1601
01:14:45,320 --> 01:14:47,760
Speaker 1: names just yet. I'm not saying that I can affirmatively

1602
01:14:47,760 --> 01:14:48,880
Speaker 1: conclude it can't beat him.

1603
01:14:49,160 --> 01:14:50,080
Speaker 2: But no, one doesn't.

1604
01:14:51,160 --> 01:14:52,840
Speaker 3: We don't know what's gonna happen when he when he

1605
01:14:52,880 --> 01:14:54,760
Speaker 3: gets into that side of the pool. But God, can

1606
01:14:54,800 --> 01:14:57,320
Speaker 3: I not wait? Uh, yeah, I guess the under I

1607
01:14:57,360 --> 01:14:58,760
Speaker 3: would have gone. I would have I would have bet

1608
01:14:58,800 --> 01:15:00,280
Speaker 3: on the over here, all right, Number three here, the

1609
01:15:00,360 --> 01:15:03,400
Speaker 3: number is one Luke, the number of scantily clad women

1610
01:15:03,560 --> 01:15:07,839
Speaker 3: hired to appear in Colby Covington's various interviews and online

1611
01:15:07,840 --> 01:15:10,920
Speaker 3: skits who he actually also had intercourse with.

1612
01:15:12,920 --> 01:15:14,760
Speaker 1: I'll take the under for sure.

1613
01:15:14,840 --> 01:15:17,240
Speaker 3: A wow.

1614
01:15:17,520 --> 01:15:20,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, No, I don't think any of that has resulted

1615
01:15:20,040 --> 01:15:24,680
Speaker 1: in in in buns. I think that uh. I think

1616
01:15:24,720 --> 01:15:28,040
Speaker 1: that's a strictly transactional like wow Instagram than be about

1617
01:15:28,040 --> 01:15:29,120
Speaker 1: you know, any think he.

1618
01:15:29,280 --> 01:15:31,519
Speaker 3: Could have pulled suave or been like look me up

1619
01:15:31,560 --> 01:15:32,080
Speaker 3: and you know.

1620
01:15:32,560 --> 01:15:36,280
Speaker 1: Listen, I'm sure he's laid pipe in you know, wonderful

1621
01:15:36,280 --> 01:15:39,800
Speaker 1: places that I could only dream of. But I'm just saying,

1622
01:15:39,800 --> 01:15:42,519
Speaker 1: as it relates to the Instagram stuff, No, I don't,

1623
01:15:42,520 --> 01:15:44,439
Speaker 1: I don't. I think that's I don't take I don't

1624
01:15:44,439 --> 01:15:45,280
Speaker 1: take that too seriously.

1625
01:15:46,160 --> 01:15:48,280
Speaker 3: All right, moving on the next number in question here,

1626
01:15:48,360 --> 01:15:53,439
Speaker 3: Luke two point eight million, Okay, the minimum guaranteed purse

1627
01:15:53,920 --> 01:15:56,599
Speaker 3: that Francis and Ghana would be willing to agree upon

1628
01:15:56,760 --> 01:15:59,040
Speaker 3: per fight to re sign with the UFC.

1629
01:16:03,720 --> 01:16:05,760
Speaker 1: So when if it's a minimum guarantee he gets pay

1630
01:16:05,760 --> 01:16:08,439
Speaker 1: per viewpoints. It could hit three, potentially four.

1631
01:16:08,640 --> 01:16:10,960
Speaker 3: Yes, but he would be no matter who he fights,

1632
01:16:11,000 --> 01:16:12,160
Speaker 3: he would be guaranteed two.

1633
01:16:12,120 --> 01:16:12,840
Speaker 2: Point eight money.

1634
01:16:15,000 --> 01:16:19,240
Speaker 1: I think he resigns. I do. I think that would

1635
01:16:19,240 --> 01:16:22,479
Speaker 1: not be a maximization of his money, but it would

1636
01:16:22,520 --> 01:16:25,240
Speaker 1: be a lot more than he's been getting by orders

1637
01:16:25,280 --> 01:16:29,680
Speaker 1: of magnitude, quite literally. And on top of that, he

1638
01:16:29,720 --> 01:16:33,000
Speaker 1: would avoid any kind of lengthy court battle or whatever

1639
01:16:33,040 --> 01:16:36,480
Speaker 1: the fuck. You know, if you're guaranteed to make basically

1640
01:16:36,600 --> 01:16:39,200
Speaker 1: three a fight, that's not what you should be making,

1641
01:16:39,280 --> 01:16:42,519
Speaker 1: I grant, but it solves a lot of problems for

1642
01:16:42,680 --> 01:16:44,920
Speaker 1: him and gets some pretty close without having to go

1643
01:16:44,960 --> 01:16:47,439
Speaker 1: to battle with the promotion, and he doesn't have to

1644
01:16:47,439 --> 01:16:49,000
Speaker 1: fight in a sport that's not his first sport. He

1645
01:16:49,040 --> 01:16:52,080
Speaker 1: could still fight in MMA versus boxing or whatever. So, like,

1646
01:16:52,880 --> 01:16:54,479
Speaker 1: you know, here's the thing I have to ask yourself,

1647
01:16:54,479 --> 01:16:59,320
Speaker 1: how okay, BC, what is the actual they make Francis

1648
01:16:59,360 --> 01:17:03,559
Speaker 1: versus Tyson and Fury and ESPN promotes the fuck out

1649
01:17:03,600 --> 01:17:03,840
Speaker 1: of it?

1650
01:17:03,880 --> 01:17:07,160
Speaker 2: You have I was gonna say, how much Disney calls up?

1651
01:17:07,360 --> 01:17:09,080
Speaker 3: What if Disney calls up and is like, we have

1652
01:17:09,160 --> 01:17:12,760
Speaker 3: a shoulder platform to run around with this, like, there's

1653
01:17:12,760 --> 01:17:17,080
Speaker 3: the biggest fight in combat sports history. The killer at

1654
01:17:17,120 --> 01:17:19,519
Speaker 3: heavyweight in boxing gets the killer at heavyweight, and MMA

1655
01:17:19,600 --> 01:17:22,960
Speaker 3: who is the Like they could casual fan the shit

1656
01:17:23,200 --> 01:17:26,080
Speaker 3: out of a landscape of coverage with enough.

1657
01:17:25,920 --> 01:17:30,040
Speaker 2: Ad box to make this just ridiculously.

1658
01:17:29,400 --> 01:17:31,320
Speaker 1: Three million buys.

1659
01:17:31,320 --> 01:17:34,400
Speaker 3: Oh that's still that's still the under I still get.

1660
01:17:34,439 --> 01:17:36,599
Speaker 1: What would Francis make for that fifty million?

1661
01:17:38,840 --> 01:17:41,639
Speaker 2: Yeah? Forty guarantee for something like that?

1662
01:17:41,840 --> 01:17:44,599
Speaker 1: Yeah? Yeah, So then you have to ask yourself, Okay,

1663
01:17:44,720 --> 01:17:46,679
Speaker 1: I could make more in one fight that I could

1664
01:17:46,680 --> 01:17:48,880
Speaker 1: make in ten with the UFC or whatever it ends

1665
01:17:48,960 --> 01:17:53,160
Speaker 1: up being. But how many fights do you have after that? Right?

1666
01:17:53,240 --> 01:17:56,680
Speaker 1: So you know there's a there's a lot of like

1667
01:17:56,720 --> 01:17:59,640
Speaker 1: competing issues here. But if I was to me, if

1668
01:17:59,680 --> 01:18:02,439
Speaker 1: I was Francis and I got and I made, I

1669
01:18:02,439 --> 01:18:05,800
Speaker 1: could Let's say I could reasonably conclude right that I

1670
01:18:05,840 --> 01:18:08,439
Speaker 1: could make. I'm gonna throw out a number here, seventy

1671
01:18:08,479 --> 01:18:11,840
Speaker 1: five million, which I know is insanely high. I would

1672
01:18:11,840 --> 01:18:13,960
Speaker 1: take that and then just quit working the rest of

1673
01:18:13,960 --> 01:18:21,280
Speaker 1: my life. I'm not if I was Francis, I'll be like,

1674
01:18:21,320 --> 01:18:23,240
Speaker 1: not only am I not fighting MMA again, I'm not

1675
01:18:23,280 --> 01:18:25,519
Speaker 1: fighting any of you bitches again. Yeah, I'll see you

1676
01:18:25,640 --> 01:18:29,040
Speaker 1: on the on the mild deves with with fucking you know,

1677
01:18:29,160 --> 01:18:30,840
Speaker 1: a drink in my hand. Fuck off.

1678
01:18:31,479 --> 01:18:35,680
Speaker 3: Here's what's interesting, though, is like, is that gonna be

1679
01:18:35,760 --> 01:18:38,280
Speaker 3: the make or break on him resigning? Meaning if they

1680
01:18:38,320 --> 01:18:40,400
Speaker 3: gave him this type of money and he was well,

1681
01:18:40,439 --> 01:18:42,080
Speaker 3: if the money was right, the two point eight pro file,

1682
01:18:42,160 --> 01:18:46,040
Speaker 3: Let's say that was right. What about the must allow

1683
01:18:46,160 --> 01:18:46,519
Speaker 3: me to.

1684
01:18:46,680 --> 01:18:47,880
Speaker 2: Do boxing match clause?

1685
01:18:47,880 --> 01:18:48,400
Speaker 1: You know what I mean?

1686
01:18:48,439 --> 01:18:51,400
Speaker 3: What about that? If that's the deal breaker, he leaves

1687
01:18:52,000 --> 01:18:56,240
Speaker 3: because Luke, he really really wants this fight. And while yes,

1688
01:18:56,439 --> 01:18:59,920
Speaker 3: the money and the the you know, maximizing everything he's

1689
01:19:00,160 --> 01:19:02,599
Speaker 3: he's worked for, all the all the sweat hours he

1690
01:19:02,640 --> 01:19:05,840
Speaker 3: put in to become this fighter, he could get the

1691
01:19:05,880 --> 01:19:08,439
Speaker 3: full pension in that one fight, as you mentioned, no question.

1692
01:19:09,040 --> 01:19:11,439
Speaker 3: But look, I think a lot of this is he

1693
01:19:11,520 --> 01:19:13,680
Speaker 3: really thinks he can win that and is really like, no,

1694
01:19:13,760 --> 01:19:16,080
Speaker 3: I'm gonna you know, you only get one chance in

1695
01:19:16,120 --> 01:19:19,000
Speaker 3: life to do this kind of history. I believe I

1696
01:19:19,120 --> 01:19:21,639
Speaker 3: have a puncher's chance of winning the boxing heavyweight title,

1697
01:19:21,800 --> 01:19:23,200
Speaker 3: and I'm gonna go out there and show you that

1698
01:19:23,280 --> 01:19:26,240
Speaker 3: I do. Like we always we every time this fight

1699
01:19:26,320 --> 01:19:29,200
Speaker 3: gets breached. We're like, uh, okay, okay, you know what

1700
01:19:29,240 --> 01:19:31,799
Speaker 3: I mean. Even with Tyson and the four ounce of magals,

1701
01:19:31,800 --> 01:19:32,400
Speaker 3: We're still like.

1702
01:19:32,640 --> 01:19:36,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, your question is really interesting because you know he's

1703
01:19:36,080 --> 01:19:39,200
Speaker 1: playing with unknown. So, for example, if the money was

1704
01:19:39,200 --> 01:19:41,400
Speaker 1: the same two point eight guarantee plus pay per viewpoints

1705
01:19:41,439 --> 01:19:46,439
Speaker 1: on top, but you could only reasonably conclude that at

1706
01:19:46,720 --> 01:19:50,000
Speaker 1: maximum your take home against Tyson Fury would be twenty million,

1707
01:19:50,600 --> 01:19:53,519
Speaker 1: that changes the deal a lot. That is a very

1708
01:19:53,560 --> 01:19:56,760
Speaker 1: different deal at that point. So I don't know what

1709
01:19:56,800 --> 01:19:58,320
Speaker 1: he would do in that case. You have to just

1710
01:19:58,360 --> 01:20:00,920
Speaker 1: ask yourself, what is the action will upside with the

1711
01:20:01,000 --> 01:20:04,160
Speaker 1: Tyson Fury fight? How much can you actually make? And

1712
01:20:04,200 --> 01:20:06,680
Speaker 1: if he could make a fuck ton, he'll go if

1713
01:20:06,680 --> 01:20:09,439
Speaker 1: he can make a lot, But the UFC's one to

1714
01:20:09,439 --> 01:20:11,120
Speaker 1: come up with their pockets a little bit. I think

1715
01:20:11,280 --> 01:20:13,919
Speaker 1: I think he stays, for sure. He stays.

1716
01:20:14,000 --> 01:20:17,440
Speaker 3: Very interesting, very interesting. All right, Let's keep over undergoing

1717
01:20:17,520 --> 01:20:20,559
Speaker 3: Luke four and a half, four point five the number

1718
01:20:20,600 --> 01:20:23,479
Speaker 3: of top ten ranked UFC heavyweights. But you think could

1719
01:20:23,520 --> 01:20:24,960
Speaker 3: dunk a basketball right now?

1720
01:20:26,080 --> 01:20:29,640
Speaker 1: Okay, so let me look at the heavyweights, Francis, do

1721
01:20:29,640 --> 01:20:31,280
Speaker 1: you think he could dunk? I think he could dunk.

1722
01:20:31,120 --> 01:20:34,000
Speaker 2: Right, Well, he could. He could hammer that down, Luca.

1723
01:20:34,040 --> 01:20:36,960
Speaker 1: Okay, all right, So Cyril Gone is the number one rank.

1724
01:20:37,000 --> 01:20:39,040
Speaker 1: We've seen Gon do it, so we know he can

1725
01:20:39,080 --> 01:20:41,880
Speaker 1: do it. Steve Amyochis was a pretty good athlete.

1726
01:20:41,880 --> 01:20:45,479
Speaker 3: He could dunk, right, he's like cranky two yeah, yeah,

1727
01:20:45,520 --> 01:20:47,240
Speaker 3: he's six to two in jacked in a in a

1728
01:20:47,280 --> 01:20:48,160
Speaker 3: world class athlete.

1729
01:20:48,200 --> 01:20:48,840
Speaker 2: I think he can dunk.

1730
01:20:48,920 --> 01:20:51,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay. Derek Lewis cannot dunk. I don't know if

1731
01:20:51,120 --> 01:20:52,120
Speaker 1: he can grab the net.

1732
01:20:52,280 --> 01:20:54,760
Speaker 3: Dude, he no, dude, he's a freak athlete too in

1733
01:20:54,760 --> 01:20:56,360
Speaker 3: his own way, though you don't think he does.

1734
01:20:56,400 --> 01:20:58,559
Speaker 1: He have ups. I don't think he has ups.

1735
01:21:00,120 --> 01:21:01,639
Speaker 3: If you put money on it, I think he made.

1736
01:21:01,640 --> 01:21:02,519
Speaker 3: I think he's dunk in the ball.

1737
01:21:02,560 --> 01:21:04,560
Speaker 1: He's dunk in the ball, Luke, okay, all right, So

1738
01:21:05,000 --> 01:21:08,760
Speaker 1: for me, I'll go to so far Curtis Blades. He

1739
01:21:08,800 --> 01:21:09,920
Speaker 1: could probably dunk, right, he's.

1740
01:21:09,760 --> 01:21:12,439
Speaker 3: Actually I bet, I bet, I bet what blades Win Mills.

1741
01:21:12,479 --> 01:21:15,880
Speaker 1: I bet he's yeah, okay, five, easy call Volkov. I

1742
01:21:15,880 --> 01:21:18,200
Speaker 1: mean that motherfucker's head height with the rim that giraffe.

1743
01:21:18,240 --> 01:21:21,719
Speaker 1: So yes, he could. He could dunk six Rose and strike.

1744
01:21:21,960 --> 01:21:25,760
Speaker 1: No chance he can dunk, no chance. Zero, I'm gonna

1745
01:21:25,760 --> 01:21:26,639
Speaker 1: say zero for him.

1746
01:21:26,760 --> 01:21:27,000
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1747
01:21:27,080 --> 01:21:28,439
Speaker 2: He he seems very heavy.

1748
01:21:28,600 --> 01:21:31,880
Speaker 3: But I don't know. I don't know.

1749
01:21:32,160 --> 01:21:34,759
Speaker 1: Probably seven Chris Dawcas.

1750
01:21:37,120 --> 01:21:37,840
Speaker 2: No, I don't think so.

1751
01:21:37,880 --> 01:21:39,920
Speaker 1: I don't think Number eight no chance.

1752
01:21:40,200 --> 01:21:43,000
Speaker 3: You know what, Dowcas prove us wrong all right in

1753
01:21:43,040 --> 01:21:43,559
Speaker 3: the videos.

1754
01:21:44,000 --> 01:21:45,800
Speaker 1: If he can dunk in a BASKETBA, if you can

1755
01:21:45,840 --> 01:21:48,760
Speaker 1: dunk a basketball, overcan't everything? Eight shamil Ib have to

1756
01:21:48,840 --> 01:21:52,240
Speaker 1: rock him off. That dude can jump Hamburger high, No chance, chance,

1757
01:21:52,439 --> 01:21:57,200
Speaker 1: no chance? Okay, Number nine marching tybla. He ain't dunking anything.

1758
01:21:57,439 --> 01:21:59,600
Speaker 2: Not happn can't dunk luke not.

1759
01:22:00,640 --> 01:22:04,000
Speaker 1: Ten is more interesting. Ten is Tom aspinall who does

1760
01:22:04,040 --> 01:22:05,400
Speaker 1: look like a pretty good athlete to me.

1761
01:22:05,760 --> 01:22:08,200
Speaker 2: I beg white guy from you the UK. He's not dunking,

1762
01:22:08,840 --> 01:22:10,400
Speaker 2: great fight or he's not dunking the balls.

1763
01:22:10,439 --> 01:22:13,120
Speaker 1: It'll gons from France and they got good. They got

1764
01:22:13,280 --> 01:22:15,800
Speaker 1: Rudy Gobert. He gave you everyone COVID dude.

1765
01:22:15,800 --> 01:22:17,280
Speaker 2: So that four and a half is way too low.

1766
01:22:17,360 --> 01:22:18,240
Speaker 2: Then it's the over.

1767
01:22:18,760 --> 01:22:21,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'll take the over. I'll take the over. Yeah.

1768
01:22:21,200 --> 01:22:22,760
Speaker 2: I think you'll be right on that.

1769
01:22:23,040 --> 01:22:26,840
Speaker 3: Okay, here we go Luke three number three the amount

1770
01:22:26,880 --> 01:22:30,840
Speaker 3: of times the combination of Tyson Fury, Anthony Joshua, Deontay

1771
01:22:30,880 --> 01:22:35,920
Speaker 3: Wilder and Alexander Usik will fight one another before they

1772
01:22:35,960 --> 01:22:39,040
Speaker 3: all retire? Could we have the four kings at heavyweight

1773
01:22:39,120 --> 01:22:40,040
Speaker 3: right now in this era?

1774
01:22:40,520 --> 01:22:43,679
Speaker 1: I'll take the under for sure. I'll take the under,

1775
01:22:43,960 --> 01:22:45,000
Speaker 1: all right, so we get.

1776
01:22:45,360 --> 01:22:47,880
Speaker 2: We think we're getting aj Yusick to that'll be the first.

1777
01:22:47,760 --> 01:22:50,920
Speaker 1: One, right, yep. And then after that I think it

1778
01:22:50,960 --> 01:22:51,760
Speaker 1: falls apart, and.

1779
01:22:51,680 --> 01:22:54,479
Speaker 3: Then Fury versus the winner is still gonna happen at

1780
01:22:54,520 --> 01:22:57,400
Speaker 3: least once, right, So that's two, But that's still under.

1781
01:22:58,120 --> 01:23:01,520
Speaker 3: Do we get AJ versus Wilder under any circumstance?

1782
01:23:05,040 --> 01:23:09,080
Speaker 1: AJ would have to be desperate? I think. I think

1783
01:23:09,120 --> 01:23:11,720
Speaker 1: if he loses to Usik, it increases the chance. But

1784
01:23:11,760 --> 01:23:14,400
Speaker 1: here's the problem. We don't even know if Wilder is

1785
01:23:14,439 --> 01:23:17,320
Speaker 1: retired or not. He kind of indicated he was halfway

1786
01:23:17,360 --> 01:23:21,200
Speaker 1: in the bag, so he might even be a player here.

1787
01:23:21,880 --> 01:23:25,320
Speaker 1: I don't know if Fury will fight Usick because that

1788
01:23:25,560 --> 01:23:26,960
Speaker 1: we just don't know how that's going. I'm gonna take

1789
01:23:26,960 --> 01:23:28,519
Speaker 1: the under. I'm gonna take the under for sure.

1790
01:23:28,880 --> 01:23:31,120
Speaker 3: I'm gonna take the over. Part of it is, hope,

1791
01:23:31,120 --> 01:23:35,200
Speaker 3: because for it to not be the over like boxing,

1792
01:23:35,439 --> 01:23:38,120
Speaker 3: shit has to be like heavy strong in the next

1793
01:23:38,160 --> 01:23:41,680
Speaker 3: few years. Luke, you know, I mean heavy, I hope not.

1794
01:23:41,800 --> 01:23:43,320
Speaker 3: I mean it's very possible.

1795
01:23:43,600 --> 01:23:46,440
Speaker 2: Damn damn. All right, Luke, fifty.

1796
01:23:46,160 --> 01:23:51,240
Speaker 3: Seven thousand the number of our one hundred and five

1797
01:23:51,320 --> 01:23:56,120
Speaker 3: thousand based MK subscriber group who either did or at

1798
01:23:56,200 --> 01:23:59,479
Speaker 3: least would have been willing to storm the Capitol steps

1799
01:23:59,520 --> 01:24:01,120
Speaker 3: on January six, two thousand and one.

1800
01:24:01,840 --> 01:24:04,840
Speaker 1: It's got fifty seven thousand. Seems like a very much

1801
01:24:04,920 --> 01:24:10,000
Speaker 1: an undercount. I think it's I think it's closer to

1802
01:24:10,280 --> 01:24:13,040
Speaker 1: you know, uh, ninety nine percent of that one oh

1803
01:24:13,160 --> 01:24:13,599
Speaker 1: five k.

1804
01:24:13,760 --> 01:24:16,479
Speaker 3: Like if it was just proximity, like they're like, you know,

1805
01:24:16,479 --> 01:24:18,240
Speaker 3: I'm not going to drive eight hundred miles for this,

1806
01:24:18,320 --> 01:24:20,160
Speaker 3: but if I was in that town, yes, I would

1807
01:24:20,200 --> 01:24:20,679
Speaker 3: have been there.

1808
01:24:20,840 --> 01:24:23,559
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, then then the number goes up to nearly everyone.

1809
01:24:23,600 --> 01:24:26,880
Speaker 1: That's a conservative estimate, all right.

1810
01:24:26,920 --> 01:24:30,479
Speaker 3: I think Luke got two point five two and a

1811
01:24:30,520 --> 01:24:35,719
Speaker 3: half the number of Russian or Russian former occupied born

1812
01:24:35,800 --> 01:24:39,600
Speaker 3: fighters who will be UFC champions at the end of

1813
01:24:39,600 --> 01:24:42,280
Speaker 3: twenty twenty two. When when when it's New Year's Eve

1814
01:24:42,600 --> 01:24:45,080
Speaker 3: and it turns over to twenty twenty two two and

1815
01:24:45,080 --> 01:24:48,240
Speaker 3: a half. As you're over under on the defending Russian

1816
01:24:48,640 --> 01:24:52,160
Speaker 3: or close enough born Kazakh Ukrainians.

1817
01:24:52,160 --> 01:24:54,920
Speaker 1: So we can count former Soviet satellite states.

1818
01:24:54,960 --> 01:24:57,280
Speaker 3: Yes, yes we do. If you got some kind of

1819
01:24:57,320 --> 01:24:59,080
Speaker 3: Soviet on you, Luke, we're clouting it.

1820
01:24:59,120 --> 01:25:01,080
Speaker 1: Okay, can you play the question one more time? Let

1821
01:25:01,120 --> 01:25:02,639
Speaker 1: me see it one more time on the on screen

1822
01:25:02,680 --> 01:25:04,000
Speaker 1: graphic two and.

1823
01:25:03,920 --> 01:25:08,280
Speaker 3: A half the number of Russian or occupied born fighters

1824
01:25:08,960 --> 01:25:09,799
Speaker 3: UFC champions.

1825
01:25:09,880 --> 01:25:11,439
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I think if you count wider like

1826
01:25:11,479 --> 01:25:13,680
Speaker 1: bellat Or and PFL, it's you know, gonna be in

1827
01:25:13,720 --> 01:25:17,200
Speaker 1: a huge number. Okay. Who Now we already have one.

1828
01:25:17,320 --> 01:25:18,960
Speaker 1: So are we counting Chevchenko?

1829
01:25:19,320 --> 01:25:21,120
Speaker 3: Well then that would say you would say she's going

1830
01:25:21,200 --> 01:25:23,400
Speaker 3: to be a champion when when this year closes. Yes,

1831
01:25:23,439 --> 01:25:24,639
Speaker 3: if you're counting that, then that's one.

1832
01:25:24,680 --> 01:25:31,840
Speaker 1: Okay, So that's one wow this year when it's over.

1833
01:25:33,439 --> 01:25:35,760
Speaker 1: I wouldn't count Volkov because I think he's a little

1834
01:25:35,760 --> 01:25:39,800
Speaker 1: bit too far behind Peter Yahan. That's two, as our

1835
01:25:40,120 --> 01:25:43,040
Speaker 1: gaff Our producer as wisely noted, So we would just

1836
01:25:43,080 --> 01:25:46,679
Speaker 1: need one more. Yes, do you gotta take the over

1837
01:25:46,840 --> 01:25:48,240
Speaker 1: so tempting you.

1838
01:25:48,200 --> 01:25:50,439
Speaker 3: Got to take the over, Islam Mahachev, you got to

1839
01:25:50,479 --> 01:25:51,040
Speaker 3: take that over.

1840
01:25:51,680 --> 01:25:52,080
Speaker 1: Good call.

1841
01:25:52,160 --> 01:25:56,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, Mayav could could be coming on for all week.

1842
01:25:56,400 --> 01:25:57,920
Speaker 1: I'll take I'll take the over. I like that. I'll

1843
01:25:57,960 --> 01:26:01,000
Speaker 1: take the over. It's a good one.

1844
01:26:01,160 --> 01:26:01,360
Speaker 3: Oh.

1845
01:26:01,439 --> 01:26:03,479
Speaker 1: I think are there a thing freeze? Are you there?

1846
01:26:03,680 --> 01:26:05,160
Speaker 3: I'm there, I'm there, I'm there, I'm there.

1847
01:26:05,400 --> 01:26:08,639
Speaker 2: Technical direct two more.

1848
01:26:08,920 --> 01:26:10,439
Speaker 1: Let's pose it out here forever.

1849
01:26:11,200 --> 01:26:13,679
Speaker 3: But it's it's epic though, I mean it's freaking epic.

1850
01:26:13,720 --> 01:26:18,840
Speaker 3: Luke uh fifteen million the amount of cash Dana White

1851
01:26:18,840 --> 01:26:21,880
Speaker 3: could physically produce in twenty four hours from his own

1852
01:26:21,920 --> 01:26:25,040
Speaker 3: accounts if he was arrested for a high profile felony

1853
01:26:25,240 --> 01:26:26,400
Speaker 3: and needed to make bail.

1854
01:26:26,680 --> 01:26:28,679
Speaker 1: I'll take the over. I think he has way more

1855
01:26:28,720 --> 01:26:30,960
Speaker 1: liquid cash than that, way more.

1856
01:26:31,760 --> 01:26:34,920
Speaker 3: That's a look, that's an insane amount of liquid cash,

1857
01:26:35,000 --> 01:26:35,960
Speaker 3: even for a rich guy.

1858
01:26:36,720 --> 01:26:38,040
Speaker 1: Dude, A buddy of mine was trying to buy a

1859
01:26:38,040 --> 01:26:40,320
Speaker 1: house here in the city and he's a lawyer like

1860
01:26:40,360 --> 01:26:42,840
Speaker 1: this is not a poor guy. And he bid on

1861
01:26:42,920 --> 01:26:47,639
Speaker 1: a home, you know, not a cheap home, and lost

1862
01:26:47,680 --> 01:26:50,639
Speaker 1: the bid because the person who outbid him paid it

1863
01:26:50,800 --> 01:26:54,599
Speaker 1: for in cash all in one go. There is some

1864
01:26:54,920 --> 01:26:58,080
Speaker 1: stupid money floating around out there, and Dana White probably

1865
01:26:58,080 --> 01:26:59,439
Speaker 1: has a nice chunk of it.

1866
01:27:00,080 --> 01:27:02,519
Speaker 3: Luke, he's been a run for governor of Nevada and

1867
01:27:02,520 --> 01:27:03,920
Speaker 3: then eventually president one day.

1868
01:27:04,200 --> 01:27:04,679
Speaker 1: Probably.

1869
01:27:04,880 --> 01:27:06,760
Speaker 3: I want you to remember that I was the first

1870
01:27:06,760 --> 01:27:08,479
Speaker 3: one a year ago who said that out loud.

1871
01:27:08,479 --> 01:27:09,439
Speaker 1: I was he won't win.

1872
01:27:09,520 --> 01:27:13,840
Speaker 3: But yeah, Doonkas over here, by the way, no Stradonkas

1873
01:27:13,880 --> 01:27:17,280
Speaker 3: has predicted in concession, Luke succession, not only that Francis

1874
01:27:17,320 --> 01:27:20,920
Speaker 3: and Gania would wrestle to win, but that Stricklan would

1875
01:27:20,920 --> 01:27:21,519
Speaker 3: win a decision.

1876
01:27:21,600 --> 01:27:24,559
Speaker 2: So you know, maybe this is the new streak, the

1877
01:27:24,600 --> 01:27:25,040
Speaker 2: new curse.

1878
01:27:25,160 --> 01:27:28,000
Speaker 3: Maybe I'm just was struck by lightning in my sleep, Luke,

1879
01:27:28,040 --> 01:27:29,800
Speaker 3: And you know my circuits are back.

1880
01:27:29,840 --> 01:27:31,880
Speaker 1: All right, Here we go, people still doing the curse

1881
01:27:31,960 --> 01:27:33,080
Speaker 1: thing now that Francis won.

1882
01:27:33,240 --> 01:27:35,559
Speaker 3: I hope it can't be right, Yeah, I mean, Canelo

1883
01:27:35,640 --> 01:27:37,799
Speaker 3: killed it. The only debate is if Francis or Canelo

1884
01:27:37,880 --> 01:27:39,559
Speaker 3: killed it. That's the only debate, all right. Look, the

1885
01:27:39,560 --> 01:27:42,120
Speaker 3: final one is one and a half one point five.

1886
01:27:42,560 --> 01:27:46,240
Speaker 3: All jokes aside. The amount of calf strikes justin Gaichie

1887
01:27:46,680 --> 01:27:50,639
Speaker 3: actually was from putting Habib in peril at UFC two

1888
01:27:50,680 --> 01:27:51,160
Speaker 3: fifty four.

1889
01:27:51,439 --> 01:27:54,439
Speaker 1: Gotta take the over obviously was hurting him. Obviously we

1890
01:27:54,520 --> 01:27:57,679
Speaker 1: know justin Gaigie can do phenomenal work, but to really

1891
01:27:57,760 --> 01:28:00,840
Speaker 1: hobble and hurt and change the game, I think three

1892
01:28:00,920 --> 01:28:03,519
Speaker 1: or four is probably where he would have needed to

1893
01:28:03,640 --> 01:28:07,439
Speaker 1: end up. One or two certainly impactful, not enough for

1894
01:28:07,520 --> 01:28:08,160
Speaker 1: a guy like that.

1895
01:28:08,520 --> 01:28:11,320
Speaker 3: By the way, as much as like you know, years

1896
01:28:11,320 --> 01:28:13,000
Speaker 3: from now, we'll be like, remember when a Gondho won

1897
01:28:13,040 --> 01:28:16,160
Speaker 3: that fight with a contract dispute and a torn MCL.

1898
01:28:16,640 --> 01:28:18,479
Speaker 3: Remember when he'll be won that fight with like a

1899
01:28:18,479 --> 01:28:21,400
Speaker 3: broken foot and another injury on another part of his leg,

1900
01:28:21,640 --> 01:28:26,640
Speaker 3: and he was retiring and he like, damn, dude, damn.

1901
01:28:26,640 --> 01:28:28,599
Speaker 1: I miss him. He was great for the game. Uh.

1902
01:28:29,080 --> 01:28:31,280
Speaker 1: By the way, in case you haven't heard yet, Godzilla

1903
01:28:31,320 --> 01:28:34,760
Speaker 1: has returned from downtown Tokyo to now Terror Rise Mkville.

1904
01:28:35,320 --> 01:28:38,479
Speaker 3: So yeah, all right, uh luke, do you want to

1905
01:28:38,760 --> 01:28:40,759
Speaker 3: close with fans hubs here, Let's.

1906
01:28:40,600 --> 01:28:42,160
Speaker 1: See what they got. Let's see what the fans got?

1907
01:28:42,280 --> 01:28:42,639
Speaker 1: All right?

1908
01:28:42,640 --> 01:28:46,880
Speaker 3: Morning combat at gmail dot com is the call out there? Uh,

1909
01:28:47,240 --> 01:28:49,360
Speaker 3: this is where you send us pictures and stuff. It's weird,

1910
01:28:49,479 --> 01:28:50,120
Speaker 3: it's fans of me.

1911
01:28:51,240 --> 01:28:53,439
Speaker 1: I liked the segment. When then when this segment is good.

1912
01:28:54,080 --> 01:28:56,800
Speaker 1: It's really good.

1913
01:28:55,000 --> 01:28:59,840
Speaker 3: It's really it's like it's like ribs, Barberque, ribs, Luke,

1914
01:28:59,840 --> 01:29:02,120
Speaker 3: I'll only eat them if they're elite, okay, like some

1915
01:29:02,160 --> 01:29:04,639
Speaker 3: guys are, like I'll only get a prostitute if.

1916
01:29:04,560 --> 01:29:06,240
Speaker 1: It's in a Dude, I cannot remember the name of

1917
01:29:06,280 --> 01:29:08,640
Speaker 1: the place. But when I was in Houston for the

1918
01:29:08,880 --> 01:29:11,519
Speaker 1: uh dotta five thousand Kimbo fight because I've done very

1919
01:29:11,560 --> 01:29:16,360
Speaker 1: important work in my career, I Jeremy Botter, who lived

1920
01:29:16,400 --> 01:29:18,200
Speaker 1: in Houston at that time. He may still live there.

1921
01:29:18,880 --> 01:29:19,000
Speaker 5: Uh.

1922
01:29:19,240 --> 01:29:23,400
Speaker 1: He took me to some barbecue place that only like,

1923
01:29:23,880 --> 01:29:25,560
Speaker 1: only has a certain amount of meat each day, and

1924
01:29:25,560 --> 01:29:27,719
Speaker 1: when they sell out, that's it. They close. They're done right.

1925
01:29:28,040 --> 01:29:30,200
Speaker 1: And then when you when they opened, there's a line

1926
01:29:30,280 --> 01:29:32,840
Speaker 1: out the door. He knew the owner, so we got

1927
01:29:32,840 --> 01:29:34,920
Speaker 1: to skip the line. It was him me, I think

1928
01:29:35,000 --> 01:29:37,600
Speaker 1: Mike Jackson, remember the guy fought see him punk him Me,

1929
01:29:37,920 --> 01:29:40,160
Speaker 1: Mike Jackson, and I think Sean L. Shody was with us,

1930
01:29:40,200 --> 01:29:43,040
Speaker 1: although I could be wrong about that, but either way, dude,

1931
01:29:43,040 --> 01:29:47,759
Speaker 1: that was some of the most unbelievable barbecue I'd ever had. It.

1932
01:29:47,760 --> 01:29:50,519
Speaker 1: It's like that and then everything else they call barbecue

1933
01:29:50,520 --> 01:29:51,519
Speaker 1: with some cheap imitation.

1934
01:29:52,160 --> 01:29:54,280
Speaker 3: When you get it real, whether it's in Memphis or

1935
01:29:54,320 --> 01:29:56,559
Speaker 3: Austin or wherever you go for your like, No, these

1936
01:29:56,600 --> 01:29:57,360
Speaker 3: guys do it real.

1937
01:29:57,400 --> 01:29:58,479
Speaker 2: It's god it.

1938
01:29:58,680 --> 01:30:01,120
Speaker 1: By the way, have you've been to memph.

1939
01:30:00,840 --> 01:30:02,719
Speaker 3: No, I want to go to Memphis of Kansas City

1940
01:30:02,800 --> 01:30:04,000
Speaker 3: just for the barbecue. You know.

1941
01:30:04,040 --> 01:30:05,840
Speaker 2: I'll take the crime in the in all that stuff too.

1942
01:30:05,880 --> 01:30:07,720
Speaker 1: But I've been to Memphis one, so I don't. I

1943
01:30:07,760 --> 01:30:10,640
Speaker 1: cannot hardly say that you've got it figured out. But

1944
01:30:10,920 --> 01:30:14,280
Speaker 1: I didn't love it that much. And also Beale Street

1945
01:30:14,479 --> 01:30:17,920
Speaker 1: is a not as good as well. I mean, they're

1946
01:30:17,960 --> 01:30:21,840
Speaker 1: both for a certain kind of person. But like Sixth

1947
01:30:21,840 --> 01:30:25,320
Speaker 1: Street in Austin, No, and it's definitely they say it's

1948
01:30:25,320 --> 01:30:28,360
Speaker 1: close to Bourbon Street in New Orleans. It ain't. It ain't.

1949
01:30:28,400 --> 01:30:29,360
Speaker 1: It ain't like that at all.

1950
01:30:30,520 --> 01:30:34,559
Speaker 2: You know, Bourbon Street in New Orleans is is? It's

1951
01:30:34,560 --> 01:30:36,080
Speaker 2: pretty insane. Look, it's pretty nuts.

1952
01:30:36,120 --> 01:30:38,280
Speaker 1: Yeah. And for a while it was Frenchman Street where

1953
01:30:38,280 --> 01:30:40,120
Speaker 1: the locals went, but I'm told that that's no longer

1954
01:30:40,160 --> 01:30:41,639
Speaker 1: the case. But Frenchman Street was cool.

1955
01:30:41,479 --> 01:30:44,320
Speaker 3: Too, all right. Look from Danger Mouse is our first one.

1956
01:30:44,600 --> 01:30:48,880
Speaker 3: I have donks Greetings from God's own country of South Yorkshire,

1957
01:30:49,200 --> 01:30:51,719
Speaker 3: hoping that one day I'll message to see my art live.

1958
01:30:51,760 --> 01:30:53,800
Speaker 3: You'll manage yes. First time you change the schedule, the

1959
01:30:53,800 --> 01:30:57,800
Speaker 3: second time, I'm maded fingers crossed. I'll be home for

1960
01:30:57,880 --> 01:31:00,080
Speaker 3: this one if you even show it. This is the

1961
01:31:00,120 --> 01:31:02,200
Speaker 3: reality of how BC sees.

1962
01:31:01,920 --> 01:31:03,800
Speaker 2: Food MK all day, every day.

1963
01:31:05,200 --> 01:31:07,080
Speaker 3: Corporate needs you to find the differences.

1964
01:31:07,320 --> 01:31:07,960
Speaker 2: What does that say?

1965
01:31:08,160 --> 01:31:09,960
Speaker 1: I can't read. They're the same picture.

1966
01:31:10,520 --> 01:31:12,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's great, that's fantastic.

1967
01:31:13,120 --> 01:31:14,640
Speaker 1: Is fucking gross, by the way, so let me see it.

1968
01:31:14,640 --> 01:31:18,200
Speaker 1: It's got ketchup mustard mayo and then relish on top.

1969
01:31:20,360 --> 01:31:23,080
Speaker 3: This just gives you an insertion to mention how Columbia's

1970
01:31:23,080 --> 01:31:24,479
Speaker 3: hot dog game is money.

1971
01:31:24,800 --> 01:31:26,200
Speaker 2: Okay, it's money right.

1972
01:31:27,040 --> 01:31:28,280
Speaker 1: I didn't say anything.

1973
01:31:28,520 --> 01:31:30,519
Speaker 3: Nope, but I want you to I want to try it.

1974
01:31:30,560 --> 01:31:31,479
Speaker 3: I want to try that.

1975
01:31:31,760 --> 01:31:33,479
Speaker 1: I think you're making fun of me because you think

1976
01:31:33,520 --> 01:31:34,400
Speaker 1: I'm full of ship.

1977
01:31:34,320 --> 01:31:38,080
Speaker 2: But Liver won't let me. Liver just it just bailed

1978
01:31:38,120 --> 01:31:38,880
Speaker 2: on me, you know.

1979
01:31:39,240 --> 01:31:41,439
Speaker 1: By the way, Dying Fetus announced they're going to have

1980
01:31:41,520 --> 01:31:44,639
Speaker 1: another tour April. Since you've bailed on the Cannibal Corpse

1981
01:31:44,640 --> 01:31:47,280
Speaker 1: concert like a fucking pussy that you are, you get

1982
01:31:47,320 --> 01:31:50,000
Speaker 1: another chance in April to come down to Baltimore to

1983
01:31:50,040 --> 01:31:50,600
Speaker 1: watch that with me.

1984
01:31:50,680 --> 01:31:53,240
Speaker 3: So sorry, Luke, my mic was messing up. Gahf were good.

1985
01:31:53,240 --> 01:31:53,960
Speaker 2: Now you can hear me.

1986
01:31:54,000 --> 01:31:56,960
Speaker 3: Well it wasn't. I wasn't hearing you, Luke. Let's keep

1987
01:31:56,960 --> 01:31:59,200
Speaker 3: it going. Here did I hit some Okay, it's good

1988
01:31:59,280 --> 01:32:03,960
Speaker 3: now this Norman who is Bill of Bill and Jen Fame? Okay,

1989
01:32:04,000 --> 01:32:07,120
Speaker 3: greetings from Bill and Jen and Megan stew the puppies.

1990
01:32:07,400 --> 01:32:10,360
Speaker 3: This was in Steamboat Springs, Colorado. There's a waterfall behind

1991
01:32:10,400 --> 01:32:11,080
Speaker 3: us that you.

1992
01:32:11,040 --> 01:32:12,000
Speaker 2: Can barely see.

1993
01:32:12,000 --> 01:32:15,200
Speaker 3: We're spending the winter in Austin, so we haven't been

1994
01:32:15,240 --> 01:32:16,360
Speaker 3: posting as frequently.

1995
01:32:16,800 --> 01:32:17,759
Speaker 2: But anyway, we're.

1996
01:32:17,560 --> 01:32:19,759
Speaker 3: Going to UFC two seven to one in Houston.

1997
01:32:19,840 --> 01:32:20,439
Speaker 2: Holy crap.

1998
01:32:20,760 --> 01:32:22,640
Speaker 3: Hope to see you there. At least I can give you,

1999
01:32:22,680 --> 01:32:26,520
Speaker 3: guys some real thchc oil, not that Delta eight bullshit

2000
01:32:26,960 --> 01:32:29,840
Speaker 3: that's for pussies. Well, I mean, did Bill just step

2001
01:32:29,920 --> 01:32:31,799
Speaker 3: up his game right there with this with this submission?

2002
01:32:31,840 --> 01:32:34,160
Speaker 1: Look, Bill talks a lot about what he's gonna do

2003
01:32:34,280 --> 01:32:36,920
Speaker 1: for us, you know, and I appreciate the merch stuff,

2004
01:32:36,960 --> 01:32:42,320
Speaker 1: but until I see said thc oil, it's all caps, sir.

2005
01:32:43,400 --> 01:32:45,960
Speaker 3: I appreciate him wearing our original. We got to get

2006
01:32:46,000 --> 01:32:48,080
Speaker 3: him some new merch because he's a he owns all

2007
01:32:48,200 --> 01:32:51,240
Speaker 3: I think of our one point zero launches. We should

2008
01:32:51,240 --> 01:32:53,639
Speaker 3: find an address somewhere, some po box he can pick

2009
01:32:53,720 --> 01:32:55,800
Speaker 3: up in the middle of nowhere America. That'd be great.

2010
01:32:56,400 --> 01:32:58,920
Speaker 3: All right, thank you Bill for that one. Let's keep

2011
01:32:58,960 --> 01:33:02,479
Speaker 3: it going. From Connor Ola Burrows. I'm a p one, Donk.

2012
01:33:02,520 --> 01:33:05,160
Speaker 3: I've been loving the two to seventy content. Great to

2013
01:33:05,200 --> 01:33:07,519
Speaker 3: have you back in the studio. Here's to more awards,

2014
01:33:07,560 --> 01:33:09,000
Speaker 3: more live shows, and more BD.

2015
01:33:10,840 --> 01:33:17,559
Speaker 1: It's art, Jerry, well done, not bad, not bad, pretty good.

2016
01:33:17,800 --> 01:33:24,200
Speaker 3: I think he has a second one. Apparently my notes

2017
01:33:24,200 --> 01:33:25,639
Speaker 3: are wrong. He may not have a second one.

2018
01:33:26,080 --> 01:33:30,080
Speaker 1: You blow it up there.

2019
01:33:30,080 --> 01:33:33,080
Speaker 2: It is exactly better. That is better.

2020
01:33:33,360 --> 01:33:36,400
Speaker 3: That's well done, Well done there, Connor, all right. That

2021
01:33:36,439 --> 01:33:39,080
Speaker 3: guy's are becoming a regular in these parts. This one's

2022
01:33:39,120 --> 01:33:41,840
Speaker 3: from Nathan. What up, Donks. Got some pictures here with

2023
01:33:41,920 --> 01:33:44,360
Speaker 3: my beautiful girlfriend Kelsey will be the judge of that.

2024
01:33:44,600 --> 01:33:47,479
Speaker 3: Nathan and my sweet MK merch which she got for

2025
01:33:47,560 --> 01:33:49,960
Speaker 3: me for Christmas. At the Honda Center at two seventy.

2026
01:33:50,200 --> 01:33:52,439
Speaker 3: It was our first live MMA event and we had

2027
01:33:52,479 --> 01:33:55,479
Speaker 3: an absolute last Luke you mentioned in your post fight

2028
01:33:55,520 --> 01:33:58,000
Speaker 3: show that when Velaska has beat Lesnar at the Honda Center,

2029
01:33:58,120 --> 01:34:00,960
Speaker 3: it d're a huge contingent of Hispanics who seem to

2030
01:34:00,960 --> 01:34:02,920
Speaker 3: have a deep Yet, dude, it is in so other California.

2031
01:34:02,960 --> 01:34:07,040
Speaker 3: It's Mexican boxing territory, of course. So yeah, he mentioned

2032
01:34:07,080 --> 01:34:12,040
Speaker 3: that several dozen Mexican flags in attendance. Moreno got the

2033
01:34:12,120 --> 01:34:16,000
Speaker 3: huge pop Mexico chance on and on amazing experience. Look,

2034
01:34:16,040 --> 01:34:18,799
Speaker 3: i'd have to say those fans sold out from Moreno.

2035
01:34:18,880 --> 01:34:21,880
Speaker 3: So our buddy here, Nathan, who's not doing too bad

2036
01:34:22,040 --> 01:34:25,360
Speaker 3: in all things life, uh, you know, he probably had.

2037
01:34:25,439 --> 01:34:29,479
Speaker 3: It's probably a look. UFC Live crowd experiences do produce

2038
01:34:29,600 --> 01:34:31,240
Speaker 3: life changing experiences, they do.

2039
01:34:32,520 --> 01:34:34,760
Speaker 1: They do. Also, these might be the only two MMA

2040
01:34:34,840 --> 01:34:36,439
Speaker 1: fans on earth who wear masks.

2041
01:34:36,720 --> 01:34:38,559
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think that's why they were in the last row.

2042
01:34:38,600 --> 01:34:40,880
Speaker 3: I think they got pushed back. But thank this guy

2043
01:34:40,920 --> 01:34:43,519
Speaker 3: for representing us. And look, let's not bury the lead

2044
01:34:43,520 --> 01:34:47,240
Speaker 3: again on Bill and Either at two seven in Houston

2045
01:34:47,280 --> 01:34:51,160
Speaker 3: this Saturday. Do you think you know Bill splurged since

2046
01:34:51,200 --> 01:34:53,519
Speaker 3: he doesn't have to pay a mortgage anymore, right, you

2047
01:34:53,560 --> 01:34:55,360
Speaker 3: know he's living in that RV. Do you think Bill

2048
01:34:55,439 --> 01:34:59,880
Speaker 3: splurged and bought like right up front, Tom Brady seats.

2049
01:35:00,120 --> 01:35:03,559
Speaker 3: It is gonna wear that MK mertch right next to Dana,

2050
01:35:03,800 --> 01:35:05,559
Speaker 3: right like right on them. You know what I mean?

2051
01:35:06,160 --> 01:35:09,439
Speaker 1: I wish, but no, I think he probably is sitting

2052
01:35:09,479 --> 01:35:11,520
Speaker 1: in the bleeders.

2053
01:35:11,560 --> 01:35:12,320
Speaker 2: Right all right?

2054
01:35:12,960 --> 01:35:15,360
Speaker 3: Apparently every time I move, Luke, my mic is cutting out.

2055
01:35:16,040 --> 01:35:18,720
Speaker 3: This one's from Tyler from the four to twelve in Pittsburgh.

2056
01:35:18,920 --> 01:35:21,320
Speaker 3: Last year ended so beautifully with you two donks taking

2057
01:35:21,320 --> 01:35:27,200
Speaker 3: home the award, but the award hangover is strong between

2058
01:35:27,200 --> 01:35:30,599
Speaker 3: one of you donks not being on air, constant audio issues,

2059
01:35:30,640 --> 01:35:33,439
Speaker 3: and overall poor performances. I have to suggest you put

2060
01:35:33,479 --> 01:35:38,320
Speaker 3: down the Delta eights and get your focus back. Wow, Luke,

2061
01:35:38,439 --> 01:35:41,880
Speaker 3: is this a uh? Was this an intervention that needed

2062
01:35:41,880 --> 01:35:43,240
Speaker 3: to needed to happen here?

2063
01:35:43,320 --> 01:35:48,360
Speaker 1: Luke? It hasn't been the strongest start to the year however. However, However,

2064
01:35:48,439 --> 01:35:51,000
Speaker 1: I am quite confident that when the year has wrapped,

2065
01:35:51,200 --> 01:35:53,760
Speaker 1: we will have looked back on it quite fondly. But

2066
01:35:53,880 --> 01:36:00,880
Speaker 1: it's a fair criticism. I am tried the Delta ten.

2067
01:36:00,920 --> 01:36:02,640
Speaker 1: It wasn't too much different than the Delta eight, but

2068
01:36:02,680 --> 01:36:03,320
Speaker 1: it was different.

2069
01:36:07,000 --> 01:36:08,640
Speaker 3: But the homie and I had to show off the

2070
01:36:08,720 --> 01:36:12,240
Speaker 3: mk Drip at the Wings game Red Wings game. Thanks

2071
01:36:12,280 --> 01:36:14,920
Speaker 3: for keeping me entertained at work. I always ignore my

2072
01:36:15,040 --> 01:36:17,920
Speaker 3: job to watch you guys. Oh, look at these guys, Luke.

2073
01:36:18,080 --> 01:36:20,280
Speaker 1: I mean you asked me what's the over under on

2074
01:36:20,439 --> 01:36:22,840
Speaker 1: Capitol Stormers? I mean, what the he? How could you

2075
01:36:22,880 --> 01:36:27,280
Speaker 1: fucking ask that? The guy in the left the ship

2076
01:36:27,360 --> 01:36:29,840
Speaker 1: on Nancy Pelosi's desk, I mean, just look at these two.

2077
01:36:30,760 --> 01:36:32,679
Speaker 3: What do you think the guy in the beard's college

2078
01:36:32,760 --> 01:36:34,800
Speaker 3: name was like nickname in the dorms. You know, it

2079
01:36:34,880 --> 01:36:37,479
Speaker 3: was probably like like shithouse or something awesome.

2080
01:36:37,600 --> 01:36:40,920
Speaker 1: Right, He's probably the guy behind the HOGI farts Instagram.

2081
01:36:41,760 --> 01:36:43,880
Speaker 2: Yes, I would agree with that. I would agree is

2082
01:36:43,880 --> 01:36:44,160
Speaker 2: that guy?

2083
01:36:44,200 --> 01:36:46,840
Speaker 1: In all seriousness, thanks to these two for uh. By

2084
01:36:46,840 --> 01:36:49,840
Speaker 1: the way, I'll say this, we're talking about good seats, bro.

2085
01:36:49,920 --> 01:36:52,000
Speaker 1: Those are six seats for the hockey game. Those are

2086
01:36:52,040 --> 01:36:52,639
Speaker 1: six seats.

2087
01:36:52,840 --> 01:36:55,080
Speaker 3: Yeah. Gaff believes the guy in the left looks like

2088
01:36:55,080 --> 01:36:57,680
Speaker 3: a fat version of Jake or maybe he means the

2089
01:36:57,680 --> 01:37:00,559
Speaker 3: guy in the right, Sorry, I means me, he kind

2090
01:37:00,560 --> 01:37:02,680
Speaker 3: of looks like Jake rosenbag are A.

2091
01:37:04,680 --> 01:37:06,720
Speaker 1: I'm looking at this. I'm like, wow, go back, go back,

2092
01:37:06,760 --> 01:37:10,479
Speaker 1: real quick, go back. I'm looking at this dude on

2093
01:37:10,520 --> 01:37:12,680
Speaker 1: the right and I'm like, wow, man comes out your mind.

2094
01:37:12,680 --> 01:37:14,560
Speaker 1: I let himself go Jesus.

2095
01:37:14,439 --> 01:37:16,680
Speaker 3: Oh, come on, that guy's that guy? I think he's

2096
01:37:16,720 --> 01:37:17,719
Speaker 3: posing for us, Luke.

2097
01:37:17,840 --> 01:37:19,840
Speaker 1: He's like, you know, I know, I like to tease

2098
01:37:19,880 --> 01:37:22,360
Speaker 1: the viewers. I'm just teasing. It's all I'm doing. I'm

2099
01:37:22,400 --> 01:37:23,720
Speaker 1: in all seriousness. Thank you guys, so.

2100
01:37:23,680 --> 01:37:24,680
Speaker 2: Much, Thank you so much.

2101
01:37:25,000 --> 01:37:27,840
Speaker 3: Peter slides in and says, here's three picks from my

2102
01:37:27,920 --> 01:37:30,920
Speaker 3: work trip to NYC. Had an awesome time, but of

2103
01:37:30,920 --> 01:37:32,760
Speaker 3: course I had to spread the word of MK by

2104
01:37:32,760 --> 01:37:35,880
Speaker 3: wearing some of my favorite gear. First of selfie at

2105
01:37:35,880 --> 01:37:39,960
Speaker 3: Central Park with my MK beanie. Nicely done. Second is

2106
01:37:40,000 --> 01:37:42,519
Speaker 3: me rocking the tied die shirt in front of the

2107
01:37:42,560 --> 01:37:45,880
Speaker 3: Statue of Liberty. And yes, BC, I'm wearing a side

2108
01:37:45,920 --> 01:37:46,599
Speaker 3: bag like.

2109
01:37:46,520 --> 01:37:47,479
Speaker 2: A real man.

2110
01:37:47,640 --> 01:37:52,080
Speaker 1: What Yeah, wow you I got another one of those.

2111
01:37:52,120 --> 01:37:54,040
Speaker 1: When I was in Columbia. I got another one.

2112
01:37:54,040 --> 01:37:58,760
Speaker 3: It's even mentioned it's probably leather, Luke. Really like you

2113
01:37:58,800 --> 01:38:01,040
Speaker 3: think you're ahead of the game, but really it's like

2114
01:38:01,439 --> 01:38:03,800
Speaker 3: just the new fanny pack, right, I mean that's what

2115
01:38:03,840 --> 01:38:04,400
Speaker 3: it is, Luke.

2116
01:38:04,600 --> 01:38:08,040
Speaker 1: Yes, here's the thing. I can't this is true. I

2117
01:38:08,160 --> 01:38:12,200
Speaker 1: literally cannot make any more choices because I don't know

2118
01:38:12,360 --> 01:38:16,000
Speaker 1: what's up or down when it comes to being cool. However, However,

2119
01:38:16,680 --> 01:38:20,000
Speaker 1: what I have noticed is some people who appear to

2120
01:38:20,040 --> 01:38:22,760
Speaker 1: be cool are doing it. But more to the point,

2121
01:38:22,920 --> 01:38:25,280
Speaker 1: this guy very fun. It's very functional for a dad.

2122
01:38:25,360 --> 01:38:27,080
Speaker 1: So here's what I would say, Go fuck yourself.

2123
01:38:27,120 --> 01:38:30,439
Speaker 3: How about yeah, yeah, welcome to my midlife crisis. That's

2124
01:38:30,479 --> 01:38:33,679
Speaker 3: I'm right with you, Luke. He also wore this Uh yeah,

2125
01:38:33,960 --> 01:38:35,720
Speaker 3: this guy wore our shirts. He did great, Okay, he

2126
01:38:35,760 --> 01:38:38,320
Speaker 3: had pizza pizza there. He is real, real New York

2127
01:38:38,360 --> 01:38:38,960
Speaker 3: City pizza.

2128
01:38:39,000 --> 01:38:39,800
Speaker 2: That guy had, Luke.

2129
01:38:40,160 --> 01:38:42,519
Speaker 1: Yeah, I do, I do miss New York pizza. New

2130
01:38:42,600 --> 01:38:43,519
Speaker 1: York pizza is awesome.

2131
01:38:43,680 --> 01:38:44,679
Speaker 2: It is pretty damn awesome.

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Speaker 3: Here's Will a long time listener, first time subber, but

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Speaker 3: I'm a day one MK fan literally never missed an

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Speaker 3: episode except for maybe a boxing interview.

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Speaker 1: Here and there.

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Speaker 2: Here's a pick of me at Fella's.

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Speaker 1: The numbers tell us that.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, wow. Well, here's a pick of him in Phoenix.

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01:39:01,360 --> 01:39:04,439
Speaker 3: That belatore two seven to three. His wife bought him

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Speaker 3: the tickets for their first wedding anniversary last November.

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Speaker 1: That's great.

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01:39:09,520 --> 01:39:11,800
Speaker 3: The shirt came in handy for wiping his tears when

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01:39:11,840 --> 01:39:14,920
Speaker 3: Big Tuna took that heart. L also couldn't resist going

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01:39:14,960 --> 01:39:19,520
Speaker 3: tip to tip on my way out of the arena.

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Speaker 1: All right, this is the dumbest show on earth.

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01:39:24,240 --> 01:39:27,680
Speaker 3: From Will a fellow MA athlete just smart enough to

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01:39:27,760 --> 01:39:29,639
Speaker 3: resign before high school.

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01:39:29,720 --> 01:39:31,639
Speaker 2: Wow, look he just that's.

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01:39:31,520 --> 01:39:33,000
Speaker 3: Nerd on nerd crime right there.

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Speaker 1: You know what I'll take. I mean it's not even

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01:39:34,960 --> 01:39:36,280
Speaker 1: dead wrong, but I'll take the l.

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01:39:36,520 --> 01:39:41,959
Speaker 3: All right, Ben says, no, this is uh oh, apparently

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01:39:41,960 --> 01:39:43,800
Speaker 3: this guy send in a caption that you can't read

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Speaker 3: on the air. But Louke, here's us as the Island boys.

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Speaker 1: Dude, look at those tattoos. I mean, what are they

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01:39:49,040 --> 01:39:52,840
Speaker 1: going to do in ten years? Right?

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Speaker 3: You know there? Would you rather you know, burn out

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01:39:57,120 --> 01:39:59,599
Speaker 3: or fade away? Luke? They're going for the first option.

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Speaker 1: The hair. You can just shave it and like your money, right,

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01:40:03,840 --> 01:40:06,920
Speaker 1: you can just be fine. But those tattoos, bro, And

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Speaker 1: I'm pro tattoo and even I'm looking at those being like, wow, man,

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01:40:09,880 --> 01:40:11,559
Speaker 1: y'all need a tragic mistake.

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01:40:12,040 --> 01:40:15,479
Speaker 3: I love to get mister Hebas's reaction to these guys, even.

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Speaker 1: He would be like, yo, those tattoos are kind of

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Speaker 1: fucking busted.

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Speaker 3: We got Scott sliding in. He says they'll never learn

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Speaker 3: on this meme.

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Speaker 1: Luke, I mean, here's the thing, this is a true story.

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01:40:30,920 --> 01:40:33,719
Speaker 1: I got up early today. I've taken three dumps before

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Speaker 1: today's show. I feel like I'm fine. I feel like

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Speaker 1: I'm fun boy. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Look, that was an unscheduled You know I was gonna

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01:40:40,880 --> 01:40:44,080
Speaker 3: burn my urethra and I you know, I derailed the conversation.

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Speaker 3: All I can do is apologize to my people to

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01:40:47,080 --> 01:40:48,240
Speaker 3: have a better handle on that.

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Speaker 2: What do we need?

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Speaker 3: MK depends next on the Merch Store, Luke. We closed

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Speaker 3: with Jason saying Jay from Boston back for the sixth time.

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Speaker 3: I wanted to start by giving a shout out to

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01:40:57,360 --> 01:41:00,880
Speaker 3: LT for the content he dropped while away and Lumbia, LT.

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Speaker 3: You truly are an expert in this field and your

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01:41:03,000 --> 01:41:05,839
Speaker 3: analysis of the opening segment was riveting.

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Speaker 1: Bro, I watched Incanto again this morning. Do you understand

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01:41:12,439 --> 01:41:14,640
Speaker 1: how much of this movie I could break down just

2185
01:41:14,720 --> 01:41:16,120
Speaker 1: like I can do that shit?

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01:41:16,320 --> 01:41:18,759
Speaker 3: Is that an MK homework project review?

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Speaker 1: Yeah? There you go.

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Speaker 3: Next, with a tear in my eye, it's finally time

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01:41:22,720 --> 01:41:25,040
Speaker 3: that we pay our final respects to the MK curse

2190
01:41:25,160 --> 01:41:28,599
Speaker 3: and lay it to rest with a tombstone this guy designed.

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01:41:28,920 --> 01:41:31,400
Speaker 3: It's crazy that the counter review dropped on one twenty

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01:41:31,479 --> 01:41:35,840
Speaker 3: one twenty one and Francis officially ended the curse on

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01:41:35,840 --> 01:41:39,960
Speaker 3: one twenty two twenty two. WHOA really Wow?

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01:41:41,920 --> 01:41:43,599
Speaker 1: I didn't know that? Is that true?

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01:41:44,040 --> 01:41:46,920
Speaker 3: You guys shook up the MK MMA universe for three

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01:41:47,000 --> 01:41:49,479
Speaker 3: hundred and sixty six days, and a phenomenon like this

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01:41:49,520 --> 01:41:52,479
Speaker 3: will never happen again. Twenty years down the road, when

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01:41:52,600 --> 01:41:55,320
Speaker 3: MK is still on top the true day one donks

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01:41:55,360 --> 01:41:58,400
Speaker 3: will always remember and reminisce about the curse. And last,

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01:41:58,439 --> 01:42:02,360
Speaker 3: but certainly not least, there was a clip scent of

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Speaker 3: a woman boxing another woman's backside a few weeks ago.

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01:42:06,560 --> 01:42:10,599
Speaker 3: LT then yeah, LT then went full predator mode on us.

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01:42:10,920 --> 01:42:13,080
Speaker 3: The speed at which you were able to identify the

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01:42:13,200 --> 01:42:17,040
Speaker 3: dairy air of VV Winkler was no different than the

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01:42:17,040 --> 01:42:20,240
Speaker 3: predator hunting down green berets in the jungle. Wow.

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01:42:23,360 --> 01:42:24,800
Speaker 2: Oh gosh, that's well done.

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01:42:25,120 --> 01:42:28,920
Speaker 1: You know what I have to say, your honor charge.

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01:42:29,880 --> 01:42:31,760
Speaker 3: Those are your fans as well. We got good We

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Speaker 3: got good people out there, Luke, you know what I mean?

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Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, yeah, I noticed all the comments. I

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01:42:38,040 --> 01:42:40,120
Speaker 1: did read the comments on the video where my first

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01:42:40,120 --> 01:42:44,679
Speaker 1: show back, and everyone was like, Luke was in BBL Heaven,

2213
01:42:44,720 --> 01:42:47,040
Speaker 1: bbl's must have been everywhere. This was amazing for him.

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01:42:47,040 --> 01:42:50,840
Speaker 1: And I'm like, true true, true, true true, all true.

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Speaker 3: There you go.

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Speaker 1: All right, Well that is it for us today, BC.

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Speaker 1: I want to remind everyone to go to Sports Podcast

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Speaker 1: Morning Combat, Well.

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Speaker 3: That escalated escalated quick.

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Speaker 2: We went from sand to just you know, yeah.

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Speaker 1: Just eat a bag of dicks, all right. Morning Coombat

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Speaker 1: any final thoughts before we head out.

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, YouTube dot com slash Morning Coombat will not

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Speaker 3: only give you the full versions, of course, of the

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Speaker 3: Robert Whitaker and Derek Lewis interviews Don't Sleep on Your

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Speaker 3: Boy BC chat with Anthony Pettis. He's not only gonna

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Speaker 3: be back for season two off, but he is of

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Speaker 3: course going to promote the the uh what is it called?

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Speaker 3: The Showtime FC first show He's gonna have on UFC

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Speaker 3: Fight Pass this weekend. So Luke going up and down

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01:44:10,960 --> 01:44:14,320
Speaker 3: talking about this guy's legacy, reliving the bangers he was in,

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01:44:14,840 --> 01:44:17,479
Speaker 3: you know, talking about the Showtime Kick and why no

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Speaker 3: one's been able to replicate it. Although Luke Luke Pettis

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Speaker 3: thinks ready for this, He thinks the Beat is the

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01:44:25,680 --> 01:44:27,680
Speaker 3: only active fighter who could pull that off in the

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Speaker 3: middle of a big fight as impactfully the Showtimekick. What

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Speaker 3: because I just so happened the day I interviewed him,

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01:44:38,960 --> 01:44:44,360
Speaker 3: rewatched Zabeat versus the guy the Featherway who's calling pedis

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Speaker 3: out right now. Jeremy Stevens and Zabeat attempted a Showtime Kick,

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01:44:48,080 --> 01:44:50,559
Speaker 3: but it didn't the angles really weren't right right, and

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Speaker 3: Stevens wasn't in full range.

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Speaker 2: It kind of touched him partially.

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Speaker 3: And then that day Anthony Pettis was like, the only

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Speaker 3: guy who's gonna be able to do that in a

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01:44:58,000 --> 01:45:01,679
Speaker 3: real high level of UFC fight is the beat one day.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, okay, that's a no, uh anything else you want?

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Speaker 3: Oh well, look, look you can't just shut that down.

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01:45:10,520 --> 01:45:12,600
Speaker 1: It's possible. I have to. I have to respect that,

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01:45:13,680 --> 01:45:14,000
Speaker 1: all right.

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Speaker 3: Anyway, those interviews are available. Also, I talked to Primetime himself,

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01:45:18,360 --> 01:45:21,960
Speaker 3: Chris Colbert, who's gonna be headlining a Showtime boxing card

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Speaker 3: coming up in just a couple of weeks, and.

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Speaker 1: Uh, he's very good. He's very good.

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Speaker 3: He's a great boxer. But also he's a fun, fun interview.

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Speaker 3: So check out all those interviews and bonus clips that

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Speaker 3: we do over there at YouTube dot com slash Morning

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Speaker 3: subscribe already.

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Speaker 1: Don't be a taker, don't be a taker, be a

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Speaker 1: giver and give back, yes, all right? Uh for Malka

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Speaker 1: for CBS Sports, for Showtime, for Brian Campbell. I'm Luke Thomas.

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Speaker 1: This has been Morning Combat. We'll talk to you guys

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Speaker 1: on Friday. We'll get you ready for everything, and until then,

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Speaker 1: check out all the interviews we see in the kid

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Speaker 1: YouTube dot com slash Morning Combat, and until then, may

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