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Speaker 2: we're just getting ready for the playoffs. We're switching the

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Speaker 2: schedule up a little bit. It's not a crime to

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Speaker 2: get Is it a crime to get ready for the playoffs?

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Speaker 1: I don't need to be the most wonderful time of

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Speaker 2: of getting ready for the playoffs. Switching the recording schedule

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Speaker 2: up a little bit. Sunday Nights Live on Amazon AMP

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Speaker 2: is Monday. It's Sunday, March twenty sixth. If you're listening

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Speaker 3: Did this episode We're gonnas so much? Could you like

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Speaker 3: us two years ago? Was not this podcast? You know

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Speaker 3: Make me sound so sweet? I like that. What does

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Speaker 3: that even mean? I don't know what it means.

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Speaker 2: It just sound good, dulct It means you have a

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Speaker 3: Oh wow, that's a lie, But I'll take It's aunt lobbus.

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Speaker 2: Very and The other voice you hear is the smoky

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Speaker 2: soprano of Dragonfly Jones aka Tyler.

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Speaker 4: Hey, everybody the gun, I'll GUARDI be Mike.

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Speaker 3: Mother fucking Mike gang guardy.

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Speaker 2: Uh really excited to be talking to you guys on

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Speaker 2: a Sunday night, you know, switch things up, getting ready

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Speaker 2: for the playoffs, like we said, doing it big here

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Speaker 2: in the Jenkins and Jones factory.

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Speaker 4: Up.

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Speaker 2: Let's talk about Lebron James's back after a month out

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Speaker 2: with a foot injury, he said, and I quote, multiple

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Speaker 2: doctors told him he had to have a season ending

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Speaker 2: foot surgery. I don't love hearing that because I feel

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Speaker 2: like that's probably accurate that that's what he needed to do,

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Speaker 2: But he saved the season. He said that after consulting

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Speaker 2: with quote the Lebron James of feet, Lebron James is back, gentleman.

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Speaker 2: Has ever been a funnier sentence uttered in the English

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Speaker 2: language that Lebron James saying he consulted Lebron jameson feet

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Speaker 2: to get cleared to return to playing basketball.

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Speaker 5: That cult made me so uncomfortable, though, the.

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Speaker 1: Lebron James of feet like, listen, you gotta understand man

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Speaker 1: like feet dudes are different dudes, right Like, I don't

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Speaker 1: hate surgeon. I don't think surgeon when you talk about

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Speaker 1: a dude who's a fucking foot fanatic, right like, No,

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Speaker 1: it made me feel uncomfortable. It didn't take me to

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Speaker 1: think that this dude is a world class surgeon. It

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Speaker 1: made me think a like the creepiest motherfuckers on the internet,

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Speaker 3: That's would have maybe they come out.

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Speaker 6: If he would have said the Lebron James of what

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Speaker 6: podietry or injuries, injuries or something like that, it would have.

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Speaker 6: But he said the Lebron James off, look left, look right,

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Speaker 3: You know what I mean. He's like, maybe I'll wait

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Speaker 2: If you're that pediatrist, you've got to have that printed

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Speaker 3: Feet, not before the feet, not after. The ellipses has

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Speaker 1: Didn't he go to Germany? Was was that substantiated?

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Speaker 4: That yes he was.

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Speaker 2: He was fully on his Mamba mentality that Kobe famously

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Speaker 3: Kobe got that goddamn adamantium.

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Speaker 1: You feel me, he had the Yeah, I had the

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Speaker 2: Well fucking yeah, yeah, Kobe made himself very susceptible to Magneto.

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Speaker 4: Bro absolutely.

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Speaker 2: Jump shots wicked, but Magneto can pick you up by

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Speaker 2: I'm happy to hear the Lebron is back. I did

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Speaker 2: off the truth. Happy to see him back. Obviously wish

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Speaker 2: that the Lakers would have won. But uh but let's

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Speaker 2: let's let's talk about it. We've been a little bit

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Speaker 2: perverted in the group chat talking about the Lakers chances.

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Speaker 4: Nasty, you get Dlo back, you get a healthy run.

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Speaker 2: Let's not be reasonable. What's the ceiling for a healthy

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Speaker 4: Gentlemen?

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Speaker 5: A championship?

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Speaker 3: Let's get big.

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Speaker 1: And I don't even think I'm being stupid, Like you know,

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Speaker 1: I've said this for I think that, you know, at

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Speaker 1: so you know this, this is one of those frustrating games.

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Speaker 2: It out there.

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Speaker 3: I think they can squeak in if they squeak in,

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Speaker 3: who the fuck knows?

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Speaker 6: Bro, We got Lebron and a D. We got good

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Speaker 6: guard defense, which is hardest fuck to find an NBA.

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Speaker 3: You know what I mean.

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Speaker 6: We have shooters, We got guys and get fucking buckets

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Speaker 6: on their own that aren't Lebron and a D. Nigga,

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Speaker 6: and the bench is not bad. You know what I'm saying,

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Speaker 6: my nigga, Chip me please, Nigga.

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Speaker 3: I am dot Bro.

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Speaker 6: I told Mike put it in the group chet today.

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Speaker 6: I'm like, Nigga, I've been there. I just didn't want

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Speaker 6: to say nothing. You know, I love to believe a lot, nigga.

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Speaker 6: You know what I'm saying, Give me a reason to

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Speaker 6: watch these games. Goddamn right, Nigga, I think give me

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Speaker 6: chip time. That's the that's the you know, the high.

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Speaker 6: But I think, like Bro, it's not shocking at all

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Speaker 6: for them to make it out the West. I'm not

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Speaker 6: afraid of anybody in the West, you know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 6: Whoever comes up to the East that decide. Like I said,

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Speaker 6: I think the Celts we could beat them. Sorry, Jackson,

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Speaker 6: I hate it. You know I'm a Tatum fan. You

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Speaker 6: know I love Tatum being for Saint Louis. But I

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Speaker 6: think they I think they food, you know what I'm

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Speaker 6: saying when it comes to the Lakers. But you know, Giannis,

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Speaker 6: if they make it out, Bro, it's gonna be that's

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Speaker 6: gonna be a hard six games.

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Speaker 3: That they ain't gonna go hold the Lakes away.

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Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying, It's a harder six games

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Speaker 2: that Yeah, congratulations Joannis.

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Speaker 4: Yeah that would be fun though.

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Speaker 2: And I do feel like the end, you know, there's

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Speaker 2: so much you know, if you're a glass half full,

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Speaker 2: you say there's so much parody in the NBA this year.

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Speaker 2: you know, it's the worst Western conference we've ever seen,

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Speaker 2: you know, pick one. I say there's a lot of parody.

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Speaker 2: But what the league needs in a year with a

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Speaker 2: lot of parody is they need a true superstar matchup

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Speaker 4: Is rooting for that.

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Speaker 3: You need that.

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Speaker 4: We never got it right the bron Kobe Finals.

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Speaker 2: We need that, like Yannis versus versus Braun, Yanna's versus Jokic,

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Speaker 2: been gone from saying that the referees cost him a

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Speaker 2: up set up Luca with with Wemby. But this has

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Speaker 2: been really fascinating to watch happen. Man, you had Jason

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Speaker 2: But this is the coach of the team saying is

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Speaker 2: you guys think of the MAVs implosion? I actually think

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Speaker 2: you guys think of their total implosion down the stretch here?

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Speaker 5: I for sure I think that, you know, the poling

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Speaker 5: on on Kyrie is unfair.

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Speaker 1: I don't think this is Kyrie's fault, but I do

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Speaker 1: think this is the fallout from that Kyrie trait. You know,

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Speaker 1: they lost depth, they lost playmaking when.

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Speaker 3: They made nice defense.

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Speaker 1: Yeah right, right, So so I don't think it's it's

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Speaker 6: Trade was the right decision. You have to get Kyrie

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Speaker 4: How long until lucas a Laker? Jackson? When is his uh?

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Speaker 1: I think it's available twenty twenty five. I think sounds

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Speaker 2: I got a couple of those photoshops saved already, so

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Speaker 7: Yeah, he has a he's under contract with the Dallas

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Speaker 4: You got a demand to trade, then Luca has the option.

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Speaker 2: Okay, we gotta do we gotta demand to trade before then, Luca,

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Speaker 2: because that happened, Bronn'll show you all the good hookah

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Speaker 6: The Lebron James of feet, you know, to show you

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Speaker 3: Is that stunk? It's stump. I smelled it.

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Speaker 6: It was a nasty statement, the Lebron James of feet, like,

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Speaker 2: I have a I have a friend who's a fun guy,

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Speaker 6: Feet, Bro, it's not the same bro you talking about

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Speaker 6: b I mean, like, I like feet, but not that's crazy.

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Speaker 3: That's a wild statement to make you know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 2: It was like their whole community was like, yes, we've

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Speaker 3: There's a foot community. Wow, this is a big deal.

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Speaker 7: That's a more wild statement that statement. Or Mike just

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Speaker 2: I don't know, I have a friend who's a foot guy.

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Speaker 4: Did I say I'm.

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Speaker 2: I have been seeing a podiatriss for my non Lebron

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Speaker 4: Would love to know what she thinks. Is this the

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Speaker 5: Honestly, I got a.

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Speaker 3: Little callous on my foot that caused me issues. I

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Speaker 4: You don't need what Bron has. You just need you need.

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Speaker 1: A diet goddamn like you can handle.

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Speaker 5: That's your goddamn.

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Speaker 3: So you need I be, I be, I be. You

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Speaker 4: You need you need a ten day contract of feet.

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Speaker 3: That's what.

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Speaker 2: just a yeah, that's just like that's a Europe that's

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Speaker 4: You know what I mean?

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Speaker 3: You guys, Yeah, they have a you know what I mean.

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Speaker 3: The jersey in decent years.

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Speaker 2: It's nothing negative. It's just like you've got a routine.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm not callous. Yeah yeah, I'm still in a

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Speaker 4: Got a corn?

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Speaker 6: Yeah, it's not a corn, it's a callous on the

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Speaker 4: I thought, what's the difference between a bunion?

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Speaker 6: Is the joint with the big toe when the big

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that knuckle of the big toe going doing. Is

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Speaker 3: Toe knuckle? Is that what we're calling it?

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Speaker 2: Sense, it sounds like a great insult. I'll file that

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Speaker 4: Tyler, the floor is yours.

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Speaker 3: Oh well, thank you, good sir.

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Speaker 1: But yeah, very interesting article on Jaylen Brown, who's one

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Speaker 1: the homie Logan Murdock. Follow him if you're not following him,

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Speaker 1: already doing great work at the ring of town business,

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Speaker 1: the you know the passage here, all right. The collaboration

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Speaker 3: Like that, go ahead, Mike, go ahead.

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Speaker 2: like the load management was something that was forced on

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00:20:11,800 --> 00:20:15,720
Speaker 2: him by the team doctors, you know, in front office.

438
00:20:16,040 --> 00:20:19,200
Speaker 2: I hope players are more honest about this because you

439
00:20:19,280 --> 00:20:23,399
Speaker 2: see so much fan reaction to player movement and player

440
00:20:23,480 --> 00:20:27,280
Speaker 2: decisions that disregards this aspect of the experience of being

441
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Speaker 2: a professional athlete, and anyone who's been in any league

442
00:20:30,640 --> 00:20:33,679
Speaker 2: for more than one contract knows what this feeling is.

443
00:20:33,680 --> 00:20:36,159
Speaker 2: Like you just said it. This is not like a

444
00:20:36,280 --> 00:20:40,280
Speaker 2: rotational player. This is one B on the franchise's org

445
00:20:40,440 --> 00:20:43,440
Speaker 2: chart in terms of players, right, But he still has

446
00:20:43,520 --> 00:20:46,439
Speaker 2: this experience of I know, if they can flip me

447
00:20:46,640 --> 00:20:50,720
Speaker 2: into a true second superstar next to the Tatum, if

448
00:20:50,720 --> 00:20:52,879
Speaker 2: they could flip me into Katie, they'll do that shit.

449
00:20:53,080 --> 00:20:56,280
Speaker 2: If they could flip me into you, know someone that's available,

450
00:20:56,280 --> 00:20:59,439
Speaker 2: they'll do that. And I think that someone who's smarter

451
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Speaker 2: than I am the point on Twitter, and I'm sorry

452
00:21:02,200 --> 00:21:05,639
Speaker 2: I forget forgetting who it was that. You know, this

453
00:21:05,800 --> 00:21:07,720
Speaker 2: is also sort of a by product of the player

454
00:21:07,760 --> 00:21:11,680
Speaker 2: empowerment era, you know, the player empowerment era, which you know,

455
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Speaker 2: I know all three of us are very much in

456
00:21:14,200 --> 00:21:17,359
Speaker 2: favor of player empowerment. It's a top down thing like

457
00:21:17,400 --> 00:21:19,560
Speaker 2: everything else in the NBA and in pro sports. So

458
00:21:19,920 --> 00:21:23,040
Speaker 2: Jason Tatum knows he's not being moved, but even the

459
00:21:23,119 --> 00:21:27,240
Speaker 2: second guy on the roster of a successful team is

460
00:21:27,359 --> 00:21:31,160
Speaker 2: every trade deadline feeling like he's got his bags half packed.

461
00:21:31,200 --> 00:21:33,679
Speaker 2: And I do think that's like a difficult byproduct of

462
00:21:33,720 --> 00:21:37,440
Speaker 2: this era where you really have ten or fifteen guys

463
00:21:37,880 --> 00:21:40,679
Speaker 2: that can kind of call the shots on what's happening.

464
00:21:40,760 --> 00:21:42,399
Speaker 2: If KD had come out and said, get me to

465
00:21:42,440 --> 00:21:45,560
Speaker 2: Boston no matter what, where's Jalen Brown right now?

466
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Speaker 4: You know what I mean?

467
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Speaker 3: And that would have been the right decision.

468
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Speaker 6: I think the only thing he's asked is YO be

469
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Speaker 6: up front, because I like, of course you would trade

470
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Speaker 6: me for KD? Like Tatum said before, like should I

471
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Speaker 6: would trade me? For tATu like kdie like when I

472
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Speaker 6: like when I forget when this was. I think it

473
00:21:59,600 --> 00:22:02,120
Speaker 6: was doing okay, see before he went to the Warrior shit,

474
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Speaker 6: you know what I'm saying.

475
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Speaker 3: I think, like I don't, I don't know why the

476
00:22:06,119 --> 00:22:09,280
Speaker 3: Celtics would not be honest when everybody knows the truth,

477
00:22:09,680 --> 00:22:12,359
Speaker 3: everybody involved, And I think, like, it's it's not the

478
00:22:12,400 --> 00:22:14,480
Speaker 3: fact that they would trade him, it's the fact that

479
00:22:14,480 --> 00:22:15,840
Speaker 3: they wouldn't give him a straight answer.

480
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Speaker 6: And that makes a ton of sense. But like you,

481
00:22:18,440 --> 00:22:21,240
Speaker 6: like you were saying, like everybody had to deal with that.

482
00:22:21,520 --> 00:22:24,320
Speaker 6: I know, talking to players like off cameram wondering about

483
00:22:24,480 --> 00:22:26,840
Speaker 6: you know, how the building the trade deadline, and they're like, bro,

484
00:22:27,680 --> 00:22:28,719
Speaker 6: everybody's nervous.

485
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Speaker 4: But your your wife, your kids, your family, you know

486
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Speaker 4: what I mean.

487
00:22:35,440 --> 00:22:38,480
Speaker 2: If everyone's asking and I think that there's an assumption

488
00:22:38,560 --> 00:22:41,760
Speaker 2: that the players have more info than is out there publicly.

489
00:22:41,800 --> 00:22:43,720
Speaker 2: But how many times have we heard guys say Woges

490
00:22:43,800 --> 00:22:46,359
Speaker 2: told me I had to change my kids' school, you know,

491
00:22:46,520 --> 00:22:49,159
Speaker 2: like like Woje told my wife, You're not going to

492
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Speaker 2: get to see your friends till the offseason, you.

493
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Speaker 6: Know what I mean, Like didn't, didn't, did when he

494
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Speaker 6: say that Spencer, Yes's it's not a point player in

495
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Speaker 6: the NBA, Nigga that is this, Like that's like top

496
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Speaker 6: fIF There's not a lot of people scoring like that.

497
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Speaker 3: And he's hearing shit from woes or Sham's, you know

498
00:23:05,080 --> 00:23:07,960
Speaker 3: what I mean, Like it's it's a it's a I mean,

499
00:23:08,320 --> 00:23:08,879
Speaker 3: that's crazy.

500
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Speaker 4: It's different. And obviously the guys are well compensated. I mean,

501
00:23:11,720 --> 00:23:13,320
Speaker 4: it's I understand like no one.

502
00:23:13,440 --> 00:23:15,639
Speaker 3: But it still sucks. So it still sucks, and it's still.

503
00:23:15,520 --> 00:23:18,159
Speaker 6: Uncomfortable, and I think we can all relate to that,

504
00:23:18,720 --> 00:23:22,640
Speaker 6: you know what I mean for sure, But I mean,

505
00:23:22,880 --> 00:23:25,520
Speaker 6: you know, the front office they're put in this shitty

506
00:23:25,560 --> 00:23:28,080
Speaker 6: situation like that where I think they feel.

507
00:23:27,920 --> 00:23:29,919
Speaker 1: Like they have to be dishonest to a degree, right

508
00:23:29,960 --> 00:23:32,080
Speaker 1: because of course the trade is didn't happen. So so

509
00:23:32,080 --> 00:23:33,280
Speaker 1: what do you do when you if you do have

510
00:23:33,320 --> 00:23:36,119
Speaker 1: an honest conversation, you know where you say, yeah, you know,

511
00:23:36,520 --> 00:23:37,879
Speaker 1: if we can move you for Katie.

512
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Speaker 5: Unfortunately, we're gonna have to make that happen.

513
00:23:39,880 --> 00:23:41,320
Speaker 1: Like you know, you basically tell a guy you know,

514
00:23:41,400 --> 00:23:43,960
Speaker 1: you're you're somewhat expendable here, but then it falls through.

515
00:23:43,960 --> 00:23:45,879
Speaker 1: And now we're like, Okay, let's get back to chasing

516
00:23:45,920 --> 00:23:46,240
Speaker 1: this ring.

517
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Speaker 4: You can't say that to him.

518
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Speaker 2: I totally and I relate to what John's saying about

519
00:23:51,640 --> 00:23:54,200
Speaker 2: the honesty, but I totally agree with Tyler, like, you

520
00:23:54,280 --> 00:23:57,840
Speaker 2: can't have there be a saved memory in your second

521
00:23:57,840 --> 00:24:03,080
Speaker 2: best player's head of his boss's boss saying eh, but

522
00:24:03,240 --> 00:24:06,440
Speaker 2: if we could take you into someone better, we absolutely would.

523
00:24:06,440 --> 00:24:10,240
Speaker 2: And I Bamani said something about this about Lamar Jackson,

524
00:24:10,280 --> 00:24:13,000
Speaker 2: that this is the value of having an agent to

525
00:24:13,080 --> 00:24:16,399
Speaker 2: some extent, like and Bo said, he's like, you know,

526
00:24:16,640 --> 00:24:19,320
Speaker 2: he's like I love my bosses at HBO, but if

527
00:24:19,359 --> 00:24:20,760
Speaker 2: I had to be the one to call him a

528
00:24:20,800 --> 00:24:25,240
Speaker 2: motherfucker when we're negotiating contracts, we might not have that relationship,

529
00:24:25,320 --> 00:24:27,960
Speaker 2: you know what I mean. So I'm I'm with Tyler.

530
00:24:28,000 --> 00:24:29,639
Speaker 2: I just I don't think you can put that memory

531
00:24:29,680 --> 00:24:32,720
Speaker 2: in someone's head. But then, you, like John said, like

532
00:24:32,760 --> 00:24:34,440
Speaker 2: you end up creating a situation where, of course the

533
00:24:34,480 --> 00:24:36,000
Speaker 2: guy feels a little bit like he doesn't trust you

534
00:24:36,040 --> 00:24:37,040
Speaker 2: because you weren't honest with him.

535
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Speaker 6: I think in this situation is because we all know

536
00:24:39,600 --> 00:24:42,360
Speaker 6: the truth. I'm not saying everybody, because sometimes it's.

537
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Speaker 3: Like maybe I don't. Maybe, but if Katie's available, of

538
00:24:45,200 --> 00:24:47,440
Speaker 3: course i'm you know, like he knows that.

539
00:24:47,840 --> 00:24:50,040
Speaker 6: So I mean, if I'm him and he's they're telling

540
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Speaker 6: me no, just flat out you know what I mean,

541
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Speaker 6: not even kind of suggesting it at all. I mean,

542
00:24:55,920 --> 00:24:57,840
Speaker 6: come on, that's that's that's that's you can't trust that,

543
00:24:58,080 --> 00:24:59,919
Speaker 6: you know, and so that's that's my thing is like

544
00:25:00,400 --> 00:25:02,560
Speaker 6: you can give him something, you know what I mean

545
00:25:02,600 --> 00:25:05,280
Speaker 6: without saying that, like, yeah, nigga, Like if Katie's on

546
00:25:05,280 --> 00:25:08,080
Speaker 6: the table, b it's fucking kad, you know what I'm saying.

547
00:25:08,560 --> 00:25:10,960
Speaker 3: But like for a guy like him, who is a

548
00:25:11,000 --> 00:25:12,800
Speaker 3: smart dude, like you said, they didn't mentions work.

549
00:25:12,800 --> 00:25:15,720
Speaker 6: He spoke very you know, eloquently to what he meant,

550
00:25:15,720 --> 00:25:17,480
Speaker 6: and he spoke exactly how you felt, you know, you

551
00:25:17,480 --> 00:25:19,480
Speaker 6: feel what I'm saying. And so I don't think, like

552
00:25:19,880 --> 00:25:22,280
Speaker 6: I think there's certain people like that, when everybody knows

553
00:25:22,280 --> 00:25:24,479
Speaker 6: the truth or cerch situation, everybody knows the truth, it

554
00:25:24,560 --> 00:25:28,679
Speaker 6: might help to you know, be somewhat honest in a

555
00:25:28,840 --> 00:25:30,840
Speaker 6: you know, tactful way, you know.

556
00:25:30,960 --> 00:25:33,080
Speaker 3: And now yeah, yeah, I don't know, I don't know.

557
00:25:33,359 --> 00:25:36,320
Speaker 1: I think in situations like that, you have to know

558
00:25:36,359 --> 00:25:38,600
Speaker 1: your personnel. You have to know the guy exactly, you

559
00:25:38,640 --> 00:25:41,159
Speaker 1: know coming to you, you know, wanting transparency and you

560
00:25:41,200 --> 00:25:43,520
Speaker 1: have to like move from there. And you know, from

561
00:25:43,560 --> 00:25:45,959
Speaker 1: as we can see here, Jalen wasn't buying shit. They

562
00:25:45,960 --> 00:25:48,080
Speaker 1: were selling them, you know when they told him that

563
00:25:48,080 --> 00:25:48,800
Speaker 1: he wasn't any straight?

564
00:25:48,840 --> 00:25:50,840
Speaker 3: Would you bought it? Would you have bought it time? Absolutely?

565
00:25:50,840 --> 00:25:52,360
Speaker 3: Would you want a little bit of honesty?

566
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Speaker 1: I would have wanted some honesty, but I would have

567
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Speaker 1: I would have wanted to, like I said, because the

568
00:25:56,960 --> 00:25:59,960
Speaker 1: country is Yeah, how do you frame it to where

569
00:26:00,200 --> 00:26:02,880
Speaker 1: if this trade doesn't happen, you know, I gotta come

570
00:26:02,880 --> 00:26:03,280
Speaker 1: and get.

571
00:26:03,119 --> 00:26:04,879
Speaker 6: My old That's why we ain't paid the bucks some

572
00:26:04,960 --> 00:26:06,879
Speaker 6: niggas paid that are supposed to frame it in a

573
00:26:06,920 --> 00:26:09,159
Speaker 6: particular way, you know what I'm saying. But like we

574
00:26:09,240 --> 00:26:11,479
Speaker 6: know that this is not going to end up the

575
00:26:11,520 --> 00:26:13,639
Speaker 6: way that they would want it to. You know what

576
00:26:13,640 --> 00:26:16,320
Speaker 6: I mean with him not trusting the fucking franchise and

577
00:26:16,440 --> 00:26:19,400
Speaker 6: saying it, you know in a Ringer article. You feel

578
00:26:19,440 --> 00:26:23,200
Speaker 6: what I'm saying to get picked up by everybody, like yeah,

579
00:26:23,240 --> 00:26:25,480
Speaker 6: so like it's it's you know, it's it's a it's

580
00:26:25,480 --> 00:26:28,800
Speaker 6: a tight rope you you you walk, but they I

581
00:26:28,840 --> 00:26:30,879
Speaker 6: don't know if they played it the right way, but

582
00:26:30,920 --> 00:26:32,560
Speaker 6: we I understand both sides.

583
00:26:33,040 --> 00:26:33,399
Speaker 3: Jackson.

584
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Speaker 2: I'm curious for your thoughts as a Celtics fan, both

585
00:26:36,080 --> 00:26:39,960
Speaker 2: on you know, the larger topic, but also more specifically.

586
00:26:40,240 --> 00:26:41,840
Speaker 2: I think it's like a funny thing where we all

587
00:26:41,880 --> 00:26:45,400
Speaker 2: talk about like how crazy and dumb sports fans are.

588
00:26:45,960 --> 00:26:48,160
Speaker 2: But then, like I told y'all, like, you know, then

589
00:26:48,200 --> 00:26:50,480
Speaker 2: Pat Bev becomes a Lakers. I've hated Pat Bev his

590
00:26:50,560 --> 00:26:53,280
Speaker 2: whole career. I hate like other than this, I love

591
00:26:53,320 --> 00:26:55,600
Speaker 2: his story, but I hate watching that dude play basketball

592
00:26:55,640 --> 00:26:57,639
Speaker 2: the moment he became a Lakers. Like, all right, I

593
00:26:57,640 --> 00:27:00,080
Speaker 2: guess I'm rooting super hard for Pat Beds.

594
00:27:00,359 --> 00:27:03,440
Speaker 6: Playing basketball, and then you hated him again because he's

595
00:27:03,480 --> 00:27:04,040
Speaker 6: stuck it up.

596
00:27:04,920 --> 00:27:07,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, Jackson, I'm curious for your take as a Celtics fan.

597
00:27:08,119 --> 00:27:10,080
Speaker 2: I know you like you always sort of hold your

598
00:27:10,080 --> 00:27:12,199
Speaker 2: breath when an article like that comes out about a

599
00:27:12,200 --> 00:27:14,200
Speaker 2: guy on your team, Like, I hope he doesn't say

600
00:27:14,240 --> 00:27:16,000
Speaker 2: some ship that will get stuck in my head.

601
00:27:18,440 --> 00:27:22,040
Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean, I love Jalen Brown. I think at

602
00:27:22,040 --> 00:27:23,959
Speaker 7: this point in Jalen Brown's career with how good he

603
00:27:24,040 --> 00:27:26,280
Speaker 7: is and Kevin Durant is kind of old. I don't

604
00:27:26,280 --> 00:27:28,800
Speaker 7: even think I would trade Jalen Brown for really, but.

605
00:27:28,920 --> 00:27:31,680
Speaker 2: He's saying that because Jalen Brown is a Boston Celtics,

606
00:27:31,680 --> 00:27:34,040
Speaker 2: he doesn't that's exactly.

607
00:27:37,119 --> 00:27:40,959
Speaker 7: But I think it's a tricky situation because you can't

608
00:27:41,000 --> 00:27:43,320
Speaker 7: both sides in just This is one of the I

609
00:27:43,359 --> 00:27:45,520
Speaker 7: think a lot of times professional athletes be like, well,

610
00:27:45,560 --> 00:27:47,240
Speaker 7: and this is the one thing I don't agree with.

611
00:27:47,280 --> 00:27:49,000
Speaker 7: I disagree with Raymond Greene on this where it's like

612
00:27:49,040 --> 00:27:51,240
Speaker 7: they're like, well, if I worked in a tech job,

613
00:27:51,240 --> 00:27:52,600
Speaker 7: I wouldn't have to deal with this. It's like, yeah,

614
00:27:52,600 --> 00:27:55,240
Speaker 7: you don't. You work in professional sports, and professional sports

615
00:27:55,240 --> 00:27:56,520
Speaker 7: are different jobs than everyone else.

616
00:27:57,240 --> 00:27:57,760
Speaker 4: Okay, you don't.

617
00:27:57,800 --> 00:28:00,760
Speaker 7: It's not the same job. However, this is one thing

618
00:28:00,840 --> 00:28:04,160
Speaker 7: that I think is overlapping between professional sports and regular jobs,

619
00:28:04,160 --> 00:28:07,960
Speaker 7: where employees and employers are dishonest to each other all

620
00:28:08,200 --> 00:28:09,120
Speaker 7: the fucking time.

621
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Speaker 3: For the everyone right, that's the best.

622
00:28:12,200 --> 00:28:14,600
Speaker 7: Your your boss is not telling you, Hey, guess what

623
00:28:14,720 --> 00:28:16,280
Speaker 7: if we find someone who can do your job as

624
00:28:16,320 --> 00:28:18,520
Speaker 7: good as you for cheaper, We're gonna do that, And

625
00:28:18,560 --> 00:28:21,600
Speaker 7: you're not telling your your boss. I'm looking for their

626
00:28:21,720 --> 00:28:26,280
Speaker 7: jobs when you are like, that's just the way employment works.

627
00:28:26,560 --> 00:28:31,119
Speaker 7: Everyone is always looking for the better situation, and for

628
00:28:31,160 --> 00:28:34,840
Speaker 7: the most part, that is a successful thing. The problem

629
00:28:35,040 --> 00:28:37,760
Speaker 7: in professional sport is there's different kinds of optics. Like

630
00:28:37,800 --> 00:28:40,360
Speaker 7: when Kyrie is like, I'm a Boston Celtic forever man,

631
00:28:40,600 --> 00:28:43,200
Speaker 7: the fans are pissed and like, I get that, but like,

632
00:28:43,240 --> 00:28:45,360
Speaker 7: what's he supposed to do? Is he supposed to be like,

633
00:28:45,400 --> 00:28:48,080
Speaker 7: I'm gonna wait and see, because then that's more honest.

634
00:28:48,160 --> 00:28:50,400
Speaker 7: But people are Some people are pissed to here. Other

635
00:28:50,440 --> 00:28:52,320
Speaker 7: people are pissed if you're not honest. Like, it's a

636
00:28:52,360 --> 00:28:55,840
Speaker 7: tough spot for everyone, the employer and the employee. So

637
00:28:55,920 --> 00:28:58,640
Speaker 7: I don't really fault anyone in the situation, right, Like

638
00:28:58,760 --> 00:29:01,120
Speaker 7: Jalen's gotta get his money. Jalen has the threat of

639
00:29:01,160 --> 00:29:03,480
Speaker 7: having to move constantly because of the trade. The front

640
00:29:03,520 --> 00:29:05,200
Speaker 7: office has a responsibility to make the team as good

641
00:29:05,240 --> 00:29:08,760
Speaker 7: as possible. Like everyone has their own responsibilities and it's it's.

642
00:29:08,680 --> 00:29:11,400
Speaker 6: Fine, I understand why it's wearing on them. Man, that

643
00:29:11,600 --> 00:29:14,880
Speaker 6: has to suck. It's already stressful every time a fucking

644
00:29:15,000 --> 00:29:18,280
Speaker 6: dog is available. Jalen Brown has to look behind his back,

645
00:29:18,320 --> 00:29:21,120
Speaker 6: like he's not a dog himself. You know what I mean,

646
00:29:21,160 --> 00:29:25,280
Speaker 6: He's worked this hard, this hard to be a fucking guy.

647
00:29:25,440 --> 00:29:29,960
Speaker 3: Bro, you know what I mean, all star caliber, quality player.

648
00:29:30,560 --> 00:29:34,080
Speaker 6: I mean, like you said, there's fifteen guys that don't

649
00:29:34,120 --> 00:29:36,320
Speaker 6: have to worry about it. But Mike, I love how

650
00:29:36,360 --> 00:29:38,880
Speaker 6: you how like you know adamants you were about for

651
00:29:39,040 --> 00:29:42,560
Speaker 6: the good of everyone, Like, nigga, thank you for lying

652
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Speaker 6: to me.

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Speaker 2: Well, Tyler's our employment expert, and I guarantee like Tyler

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Speaker 2: is the most honest person ever when he's talking to people,

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Speaker 2: he's recruiting and stuff like that. But I know for

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Speaker 2: a fact Tyler doesn't talk to him his employer.

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Speaker 3: Like you a fuck nigga. This is what's fuck you, nigga.

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Speaker 3: I guarantee.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I do not say it in such certain terms

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Speaker 1: as Jaylen Brown later under that, but yeah, I think

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Speaker 1: you absolutely do trade Jalen for KD if that could

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663
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Speaker 1: looks at Kat's age, but no, you're working on on

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Speaker 1: on Tatum's timeline right right now. You get you get

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Speaker 1: two maybe three quality years out of KD. You hope

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Speaker 1: you get a ring in that run and then you

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Speaker 1: read too, what a twenty eight year old Jason Tatum

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Speaker 1: that would have been the plan?

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Speaker 2: Jackson knows that. But but but like that's what's funny.

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Speaker 2: If if Kevin, if he when he thought Kevin Durant

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Speaker 2: if the roles were reversed, he would never trade KD

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Speaker 2: away from Jalen Brown.

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Speaker 7: Everyone values their own team's player higher than they are.

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Speaker 3: It's fine.

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Speaker 7: I recognize I have the same.

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Speaker 3: I couldn't imagine doing that with KD though, but hey,

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Speaker 3: I respect it. That's a lot of love for the Celts.

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Speaker 2: of the Pod former guest Hanif abdua Kiev, one of

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Speaker 2: the best people on Twitter for anyone who is listening

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Speaker 2: to us who does not follow him at NIF, Mohammad

721
00:33:19,720 --> 00:33:24,120
Speaker 2: tweeted out a screenshot of a story about a zebra

722
00:33:24,160 --> 00:33:25,960
Speaker 2: who had escaped, and I'm gonna I'll just read the

723
00:33:26,000 --> 00:33:30,840
Speaker 2: headline and then I'll read his commentary. Zero the zebra

724
00:33:31,000 --> 00:33:33,600
Speaker 2: breaks free from a zoo and runs through the streets

725
00:33:33,600 --> 00:33:36,280
Speaker 2: of soul zoo officials said. The three year old has

726
00:33:36,320 --> 00:33:39,720
Speaker 2: been lonely since losing both his parents and not being

727
00:33:39,760 --> 00:33:42,800
Speaker 2: taken in by a kangaroo family next door, but there

728
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Speaker 2: may be brighter days ahead. A girlfriend, and Hanif's comment was,

729
00:33:47,800 --> 00:33:51,200
Speaker 2: a girlfriend will not help Siero the Zebra unless he

730
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Speaker 2: confronts and resolves his trauma around grief slash abandonment. If

731
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Speaker 2: he doesn't, his burdens will become her burdens, and then

732
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Speaker 2: their collective burdens and love will ever grow. I've retired

733
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Speaker 2: and I'm an animal therapist.

734
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Speaker 3: Now.

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Speaker 5: Hey, that motherfucker is so nice with that pin.

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Speaker 1: That was like really some beautiful and heavy Poian ship

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Speaker 1: right there that he said, Like all jukes aside, though.

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Speaker 6: I hope she don't check that advice for sure, zero

739
00:34:17,640 --> 00:34:20,920
Speaker 6: for sure, great advice, happing and soak.

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Speaker 3: That game for these young brothers listening to. Yeah, lean

741
00:34:25,120 --> 00:34:26,840
Speaker 3: on that.

742
00:34:26,840 --> 00:34:29,319
Speaker 1: That's real, that's real. But I'm just I'm very much

743
00:34:29,400 --> 00:34:31,960
Speaker 1: interested in the backstory here, Like I need to know

744
00:34:32,000 --> 00:34:34,839
Speaker 1: how he became an orphan. I need to know why

745
00:34:34,840 --> 00:34:37,920
Speaker 1: he was shunned by the family of kangaroos who he

746
00:34:37,960 --> 00:34:41,400
Speaker 1: wanted to accept from. Like, there's a lot here that

747
00:34:41,480 --> 00:34:43,000
Speaker 1: I feel like we need to dig into. I mean,

748
00:34:43,080 --> 00:34:46,360
Speaker 1: I can't even really fault the kangaroos because, for one motherfucker,

749
00:34:46,440 --> 00:34:48,280
Speaker 1: kangaroos from Australia zebras from Africa.

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Speaker 3: Y'all motherfuckers don't know each other.

751
00:34:49,560 --> 00:34:50,120
Speaker 4: I don't know you know.

752
00:34:50,680 --> 00:34:53,399
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying, I know each other.

753
00:34:53,520 --> 00:34:55,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, just because you're both in the desert section of

754
00:34:56,000 --> 00:34:57,719
Speaker 2: the zoo doesn't mean you're family.

755
00:34:57,600 --> 00:34:59,960
Speaker 3: Right right exactly? Might beat as nigga.

756
00:35:00,560 --> 00:35:04,000
Speaker 1: So yeah, so I'm very I need more information. I

757
00:35:04,080 --> 00:35:05,759
Speaker 1: might do some dig in the night and come back

758
00:35:05,840 --> 00:35:07,640
Speaker 1: next episode with what I find.

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00:35:07,680 --> 00:35:10,560
Speaker 6: We'll see that that kangaroo situation like it must have

760
00:35:10,600 --> 00:35:12,640
Speaker 6: been a doozy for it to actually be mentioned in

761
00:35:12,680 --> 00:35:13,680
Speaker 6: that you know what I mean?

762
00:35:13,960 --> 00:35:18,239
Speaker 3: That might have been broken right right? Yeah, you feel me.

763
00:35:18,280 --> 00:35:20,120
Speaker 6: The kangaroos want to fuck with me. I just just

764
00:35:20,160 --> 00:35:22,600
Speaker 6: got tired. I can't find love anywhere. Nigga, he went

765
00:35:22,640 --> 00:35:24,360
Speaker 6: to a whole different species. They wouldn't fuck with it.

766
00:35:24,480 --> 00:35:26,400
Speaker 6: The goddamnu. You know what I'm saying.

767
00:35:27,719 --> 00:35:31,759
Speaker 3: Cans too, they are are assholes. Where's a girlfriend? It's

768
00:35:31,800 --> 00:35:33,880
Speaker 3: a girlfriend? Was she out in the wild? Does she like?

769
00:35:34,080 --> 00:35:35,640
Speaker 3: But what's going on here?

770
00:35:36,680 --> 00:35:37,920
Speaker 4: Tune in the next episode.

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00:35:38,160 --> 00:35:41,920
Speaker 6: I don't Zebra's just running through soul though it couldn't

772
00:35:41,920 --> 00:35:42,640
Speaker 6: have been in a while.

773
00:35:43,160 --> 00:35:43,600
Speaker 4: I don't know.

774
00:35:43,640 --> 00:35:46,239
Speaker 3: We need more information. We need more information, for sure.

775
00:35:47,800 --> 00:35:52,839
Speaker 2: I'm interested in the concept of animal trauma. Like we

776
00:35:53,000 --> 00:35:56,719
Speaker 2: are animals, right, and when we lose a loved one

777
00:35:56,840 --> 00:36:00,360
Speaker 2: or something, like, chemical things happen in our brain and

778
00:36:00,440 --> 00:36:02,560
Speaker 2: we think thoughts and we can choose to put on

779
00:36:02,640 --> 00:36:06,640
Speaker 2: certain music and whatever. But the same chemical thing must

780
00:36:06,680 --> 00:36:09,960
Speaker 2: happen in like a wild animal's brain roughly, right, Like,

781
00:36:10,120 --> 00:36:13,360
Speaker 2: especially you're a young animal, you lose a parent or

782
00:36:13,360 --> 00:36:16,280
Speaker 2: something and so like, but they can't go to therapy,

783
00:36:16,680 --> 00:36:19,480
Speaker 2: you know what I mean. So like, what happens with that?

784
00:36:19,480 --> 00:36:20,480
Speaker 4: That's fascinating to me.

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00:36:20,880 --> 00:36:22,120
Speaker 1: I feel like I might have told you all this

786
00:36:22,160 --> 00:36:24,040
Speaker 1: story before, but there's you know, so many times where

787
00:36:24,080 --> 00:36:26,640
Speaker 1: I think about what happens after we die, what's in

788
00:36:26,680 --> 00:36:29,120
Speaker 1: the afterlife, if there is an afterlife? And something that

789
00:36:29,360 --> 00:36:32,279
Speaker 1: always hops out to me is y'all remember Coco, the

790
00:36:32,400 --> 00:36:36,279
Speaker 1: sign the signing gorilla. Yes, yes, she had a and

791
00:36:36,320 --> 00:36:38,319
Speaker 1: remember she had a kitten that she fell in love with,

792
00:36:38,480 --> 00:36:42,239
Speaker 1: and that kitten died, right and she was very well

793
00:36:42,280 --> 00:36:46,160
Speaker 1: aware that the kitten was you know, was dead and

794
00:36:46,239 --> 00:36:48,759
Speaker 1: you know the people used to sign with her, you know,

795
00:36:48,800 --> 00:36:51,520
Speaker 1: they asked her where her kitten was and she said

796
00:36:52,320 --> 00:36:53,320
Speaker 1: comfortable hole.

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00:36:54,239 --> 00:36:55,839
Speaker 3: And that shit always.

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00:36:55,480 --> 00:36:57,640
Speaker 1: Fucks me when I think about what's here after because

799
00:36:57,920 --> 00:36:59,960
Speaker 1: it sounds you know, because I think that, you know,

800
00:37:00,000 --> 00:37:03,040
Speaker 1: there's either an afterlife or there is like a peaceful nothingness, right,

801
00:37:03,560 --> 00:37:04,240
Speaker 1: and I think.

802
00:37:04,080 --> 00:37:04,919
Speaker 5: Like comfortable hole.

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00:37:04,960 --> 00:37:07,640
Speaker 1: Like I don't think a gorilla can concept can grasp

804
00:37:07,680 --> 00:37:11,520
Speaker 1: the concept of like avoid of like nothingness. So like

805
00:37:11,520 --> 00:37:13,239
Speaker 1: like that made me think that, you know, I think

806
00:37:13,239 --> 00:37:15,680
Speaker 1: that animals are a bit more tapped into, like sure,

807
00:37:15,920 --> 00:37:20,360
Speaker 1: and yeah, right, so so I'm telling you Coco signing

808
00:37:20,440 --> 00:37:22,360
Speaker 1: that she thought her dead kitten was in a comfortable

809
00:37:22,360 --> 00:37:24,759
Speaker 1: hole is some shit that I will always think about

810
00:37:24,760 --> 00:37:26,280
Speaker 1: when I think about like what's here and the hereafter.

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00:37:26,440 --> 00:37:29,719
Speaker 6: Yes, I think animals are more tapped in some how,

812
00:37:29,760 --> 00:37:31,720
Speaker 6: babies are more tapped in, you know what I'm saying,

813
00:37:31,800 --> 00:37:34,400
Speaker 6: Like I feel like, yeah, so I think that I

814
00:37:34,400 --> 00:37:37,759
Speaker 6: think Coco probably knows more than we do, you know

815
00:37:37,800 --> 00:37:39,560
Speaker 6: what I mean when it comes to what the fuck

816
00:37:39,640 --> 00:37:42,200
Speaker 6: is going on in that you know, in this after

817
00:37:42,239 --> 00:37:42,759
Speaker 6: life you.

818
00:37:42,719 --> 00:37:45,920
Speaker 3: Know or whatever. But but yeah, man, like I don't know.

819
00:37:46,719 --> 00:37:52,440
Speaker 2: Like human perspective is like it's fascinating because we I

820
00:37:52,480 --> 00:37:54,279
Speaker 2: told y'all a couple of weeks a couple of weekends ago,

821
00:37:54,320 --> 00:37:56,359
Speaker 2: we took a boat over to Catalina Island, right yep,

822
00:37:56,400 --> 00:37:59,560
Speaker 2: it's like thirteen miles or something like that across the ocean.

823
00:37:59,840 --> 00:38:01,440
Speaker 2: And one of the things we did when we were

824
00:38:01,440 --> 00:38:05,040
Speaker 2: there was we got on this submersible boat and it

825
00:38:05,120 --> 00:38:07,200
Speaker 2: drove around the reef so that our kids could see

826
00:38:07,200 --> 00:38:09,880
Speaker 2: the fish and stuff like that. But what tripped me

827
00:38:09,920 --> 00:38:14,120
Speaker 2: out was it wasn't like there were some fish. It

828
00:38:14,160 --> 00:38:18,359
Speaker 2: was like the ocean was full of fish.

829
00:38:17,320 --> 00:38:20,719
Speaker 3: Like schools moved like one fucking organism.

830
00:38:20,760 --> 00:38:21,799
Speaker 4: Bro yes, and.

831
00:38:21,719 --> 00:38:24,080
Speaker 2: There's like thousands of fish in them.

832
00:38:24,200 --> 00:38:26,160
Speaker 4: But it was like, yeah, think about it. If you looked

833
00:38:26,200 --> 00:38:26,560
Speaker 4: up at.

834
00:38:26,480 --> 00:38:29,319
Speaker 2: The sky and it was just full of birds, that's

835
00:38:29,360 --> 00:38:33,799
Speaker 2: what the ocean between Long Beach and Catalina was. There's dolphins, right,

836
00:38:33,960 --> 00:38:36,520
Speaker 2: sometimes there's sharks and whales and all this other shit.

837
00:38:37,080 --> 00:38:40,400
Speaker 2: And I was just thinking, like, we're not aware of

838
00:38:40,440 --> 00:38:44,640
Speaker 2: them ever in our daily life, Like I've lived right

839
00:38:44,719 --> 00:38:47,759
Speaker 2: near these fish my entire life, and I had no idea,

840
00:38:47,920 --> 00:38:50,319
Speaker 2: like never thought about them, and they have lived near

841
00:38:50,400 --> 00:38:54,040
Speaker 2: me their entire life and have no idea maybe that

842
00:38:54,080 --> 00:38:58,520
Speaker 2: there's even anything above the water, just like I had

843
00:38:58,560 --> 00:39:02,560
Speaker 2: a little existential crisis moment at six thirty am on

844
00:39:02,600 --> 00:39:05,640
Speaker 2: the ferry out there, like that's fucking wild. And then

845
00:39:05,680 --> 00:39:08,520
Speaker 2: you just keep expanding that out, like I've got a

846
00:39:08,520 --> 00:39:11,560
Speaker 2: brain that allows me to see them and process that information,

847
00:39:12,120 --> 00:39:15,680
Speaker 2: whereas they think the submersible boat is just like a

848
00:39:15,719 --> 00:39:18,160
Speaker 2: god or something that comes and drops food off so

849
00:39:18,280 --> 00:39:20,560
Speaker 2: to get them to come over to the boat. But

850
00:39:20,640 --> 00:39:22,440
Speaker 2: I don't know, like it's it's a it's a trip.

851
00:39:22,520 --> 00:39:25,319
Speaker 2: I'm sure there's something of a higher consciousness than us

852
00:39:25,719 --> 00:39:28,520
Speaker 2: on a universal level, or something that's able to process

853
00:39:28,560 --> 00:39:31,879
Speaker 2: information that we can't. You know what I mean. We're

854
00:39:31,920 --> 00:39:34,000
Speaker 2: the fish to somebody, We're the fish to something.

855
00:39:34,000 --> 00:39:34,279
Speaker 4: I guess.

856
00:39:34,320 --> 00:39:36,520
Speaker 3: It's my point what trips me out? Is there more

857
00:39:36,640 --> 00:39:39,759
Speaker 3: going on down there than up here? You know what

858
00:39:39,760 --> 00:39:40,080
Speaker 3: I mean?

859
00:39:40,239 --> 00:39:42,160
Speaker 6: Like you felt, you know what I'm saying, Like like

860
00:39:42,640 --> 00:39:45,239
Speaker 6: it might as well be two totally different existens on

861
00:39:45,239 --> 00:39:46,960
Speaker 6: the same planet, and.

862
00:39:46,840 --> 00:39:49,040
Speaker 2: Like it's more of the planet than we do, and

863
00:39:49,040 --> 00:39:51,280
Speaker 2: they're like sixty something percent of the planet.

864
00:39:51,360 --> 00:39:53,640
Speaker 6: And we've spoke to the fact that like we know

865
00:39:53,760 --> 00:39:57,960
Speaker 6: more about the space in the ocean on our own planet.

866
00:39:57,960 --> 00:39:59,640
Speaker 3: Bro. There is so much shit going on on there,

867
00:40:00,120 --> 00:40:00,920
Speaker 3: wild as hell, bro.

868
00:40:01,600 --> 00:40:03,080
Speaker 6: But when it comes to animal trump, I wonder how

869
00:40:03,080 --> 00:40:04,920
Speaker 6: they did with that shit for real, because like, the

870
00:40:04,960 --> 00:40:08,920
Speaker 6: way they exist is traumatic to me in my perspective,

871
00:40:09,400 --> 00:40:11,279
Speaker 6: you know what I'm saying, Like, if you and a

872
00:40:11,320 --> 00:40:13,520
Speaker 6: wild like to think about an animal and the zoo,

873
00:40:13,560 --> 00:40:15,920
Speaker 6: always feel bad for them, but at least they're safe

874
00:40:15,920 --> 00:40:18,360
Speaker 6: from like predators and whatnot for the most part, right.

875
00:40:18,480 --> 00:40:19,040
Speaker 3: You know what I mean?

876
00:40:19,080 --> 00:40:23,160
Speaker 6: But like, like and living in the wild is seems

877
00:40:23,480 --> 00:40:27,280
Speaker 6: more traumatic than actually being captivated, you know, or captive,

878
00:40:27,320 --> 00:40:29,799
Speaker 6: you know what I'm saying, which is which is Maybe

879
00:40:29,840 --> 00:40:31,680
Speaker 6: that's just my perception, but I don't know. I wonder

880
00:40:31,680 --> 00:40:34,680
Speaker 6: how they deal with that, the daily fears of just

881
00:40:34,760 --> 00:40:36,760
Speaker 6: existing as a wild animal.

882
00:40:37,560 --> 00:40:37,719
Speaker 3: Bro.

883
00:40:38,000 --> 00:40:41,200
Speaker 1: We we discussed this story before when we talked about

884
00:40:41,239 --> 00:40:46,600
Speaker 1: that conservative the dude, the dude who ran the conservatories

885
00:40:46,640 --> 00:40:47,799
Speaker 1: or whatever the fuck you want to call him for

886
00:40:47,800 --> 00:40:50,520
Speaker 1: elephants out in Africa. Yeah yeah, And when he died,

887
00:40:50,840 --> 00:40:53,600
Speaker 1: African herds from fucking hundreds of miles away, who he

888
00:40:53,760 --> 00:40:57,200
Speaker 1: like helped fathers came came and posted up at his

889
00:40:57,239 --> 00:41:00,000
Speaker 1: crib when he died and just stayed there for like

890
00:41:00,040 --> 00:41:00,759
Speaker 1: two or three days.

891
00:41:00,760 --> 00:41:01,279
Speaker 3: That's yeah.

892
00:41:01,440 --> 00:41:03,399
Speaker 5: Elephants are for sure like tapped in in a way

893
00:41:03,440 --> 00:41:04,560
Speaker 5: that I think the.

894
00:41:05,400 --> 00:41:08,080
Speaker 6: Spiritual beings on this planet, bro, you know what I mean,

895
00:41:08,160 --> 00:41:12,920
Speaker 6: the way the elephants will Elephants will walk by a

896
00:41:12,920 --> 00:41:17,680
Speaker 6: a like a like the skeletal remains of an elephant

897
00:41:18,000 --> 00:41:20,520
Speaker 6: and know they knew that elephant and will stop and grieve,

898
00:41:21,400 --> 00:41:24,280
Speaker 6: you know what I mean. And it's just skeletal remains,

899
00:41:24,360 --> 00:41:26,800
Speaker 6: you know what I'm saying. Like the way they're tapped

900
00:41:26,800 --> 00:41:29,200
Speaker 6: in around them is just crazy, bro, Like it just

901
00:41:29,200 --> 00:41:29,480
Speaker 6: did it?

902
00:41:29,640 --> 00:41:32,279
Speaker 2: Like have you have y'all ever adopted like a like

903
00:41:32,320 --> 00:41:34,880
Speaker 2: an abuse or like a neglected pet you've ever been around?

904
00:41:34,960 --> 00:41:37,600
Speaker 2: Like there is like the trauma it does exist. Like

905
00:41:37,640 --> 00:41:40,000
Speaker 2: we we adopted a cat that had been taken back

906
00:41:40,000 --> 00:41:42,600
Speaker 2: to the shelter a couple of times and it legit

907
00:41:42,719 --> 00:41:46,920
Speaker 2: had issues legitimately, I mean, it was so anxious it

908
00:41:47,000 --> 00:41:49,360
Speaker 2: was probable actually as our cat to pass away. He

909
00:41:49,520 --> 00:41:52,000
Speaker 2: was so like and then whenever we would pack, when

910
00:41:52,040 --> 00:41:54,439
Speaker 2: we start packing to leave the house, he would he'd

911
00:41:54,440 --> 00:41:56,439
Speaker 2: be freaking the funk out. I've never had a cat

912
00:41:56,480 --> 00:41:58,319
Speaker 2: do that, you know what I mean, And so like

913
00:41:58,360 --> 00:42:00,319
Speaker 2: it took him, I feel like a couple of years

914
00:42:00,600 --> 00:42:04,040
Speaker 2: before he like relaxed, you know what I mean, Like

915
00:42:04,120 --> 00:42:07,719
Speaker 2: I scratched someone, I don't need to run away because

916
00:42:07,719 --> 00:42:09,520
Speaker 2: they're gonna kick the ship out of me or something

917
00:42:09,600 --> 00:42:11,359
Speaker 2: like that, you know what I mean. So he did

918
00:42:11,440 --> 00:42:14,879
Speaker 2: like settle into it eventually. But we we talked about that,

919
00:42:15,200 --> 00:42:17,279
Speaker 2: and actually Maya asked us a lot of questions about that.

920
00:42:17,320 --> 00:42:19,719
Speaker 2: When when that when our cat passed away, because we

921
00:42:19,760 --> 00:42:22,200
Speaker 2: have another cat and we're like, did she just lose

922
00:42:22,239 --> 00:42:26,560
Speaker 2: her like only like reference point because we adopted her

923
00:42:26,560 --> 00:42:28,840
Speaker 2: when she was a kitten? Is this cat like the

924
00:42:28,920 --> 00:42:32,080
Speaker 2: only other thing that's really existed to her because we're

925
00:42:32,080 --> 00:42:35,080
Speaker 2: some other species that brings her food and you know

926
00:42:35,120 --> 00:42:40,239
Speaker 2: whatever outside, Yeah, because we get coyotes over here and ship,

927
00:42:40,280 --> 00:42:41,680
Speaker 2: you know what I mean. So it was like, I

928
00:42:41,680 --> 00:42:44,759
Speaker 2: don't know, but it really really tripped me the fuck out, bro,

929
00:42:45,800 --> 00:42:47,800
Speaker 2: I don't know anyway, all right.

930
00:42:49,200 --> 00:42:50,919
Speaker 3: Over what's the zebra's name?

931
00:42:51,000 --> 00:42:51,239
Speaker 4: Guy?

932
00:42:51,320 --> 00:42:55,960
Speaker 3: Damn?

933
00:42:56,280 --> 00:42:58,359
Speaker 2: Someone letting anif know he got it, he really got

934
00:42:58,400 --> 00:43:00,320
Speaker 2: us off. But that's what that's what each time timeline

935
00:43:00,360 --> 00:43:03,040
Speaker 2: right there, how ne timeline is a tangent timeline. It'll

936
00:43:03,040 --> 00:43:06,400
Speaker 2: get you off Twitter thinking about some other ship. All right, well,

937
00:43:06,400 --> 00:43:10,480
Speaker 2: I'm not going to transition off that into Jonathan Matrix.

938
00:43:10,640 --> 00:43:13,480
Speaker 2: So let's talk about uh, let's let's talk about this

939
00:43:14,000 --> 00:43:14,719
Speaker 2: hard R thing.

940
00:43:18,280 --> 00:43:19,279
Speaker 3: How ridiculous.

941
00:43:19,360 --> 00:43:21,799
Speaker 4: Bro Okay. There was a clip that circulated a couple

942
00:43:21,840 --> 00:43:22,399
Speaker 4: of weeks ago.

943
00:43:23,080 --> 00:43:24,840
Speaker 2: I'll describe it because I don't know how many people

944
00:43:24,880 --> 00:43:27,440
Speaker 2: saw it, but it was like two white podcast hosts.

945
00:43:27,520 --> 00:43:30,359
Speaker 2: I think they're hosting like a video game podcast or something,

946
00:43:30,400 --> 00:43:33,200
Speaker 2: but they were. One of them, Yeah, one of them

947
00:43:33,280 --> 00:43:36,839
Speaker 2: was talking about how in the early two thousands, the

948
00:43:36,920 --> 00:43:40,719
Speaker 2: hard R slur was used super regularly and then it

949
00:43:40,760 --> 00:43:43,279
Speaker 2: was just like acceptable and you'd see it on Family Guy.

950
00:43:43,680 --> 00:43:47,440
Speaker 2: And then he said, you know, I'm not afraid to

951
00:43:47,480 --> 00:43:48,640
Speaker 2: admit like I used.

952
00:43:48,480 --> 00:43:49,319
Speaker 4: The hard R word all.

953
00:43:49,280 --> 00:43:50,359
Speaker 3: That everybody used it.

954
00:43:50,760 --> 00:43:57,000
Speaker 6: Everybody used it, and all boy was like, I don't

955
00:43:57,040 --> 00:44:00,560
Speaker 6: know about you, spin all the.

956
00:44:00,560 --> 00:44:03,879
Speaker 2: Way around on his body like the axtiouses. And then

957
00:44:04,680 --> 00:44:07,040
Speaker 2: came to discover that the guy who was saying that

958
00:44:07,120 --> 00:44:10,800
Speaker 2: thought that the hard R was the R slur for.

959
00:44:10,800 --> 00:44:12,360
Speaker 4: You know, mentally handicapped people.

960
00:44:12,920 --> 00:44:17,040
Speaker 2: And so, first of all, it was a hilarious clip

961
00:44:17,080 --> 00:44:19,560
Speaker 2: because the guy saw his whole life flash before his

962
00:44:19,640 --> 00:44:24,400
Speaker 2: eyes as he realized what he'd actually been saying.

963
00:44:25,320 --> 00:44:30,560
Speaker 3: What all had transpired according to everybody else watching.

964
00:44:32,200 --> 00:44:35,319
Speaker 2: But and Shar's been keeping me updated on this, it's

965
00:44:35,400 --> 00:44:39,120
Speaker 2: revealed this like this is actually a not negligible group

966
00:44:39,200 --> 00:44:42,880
Speaker 2: of white people that thought that the phrase the hard

967
00:44:43,160 --> 00:44:45,800
Speaker 2: R referred to what we would.

968
00:44:45,640 --> 00:44:46,880
Speaker 4: Call the R word.

969
00:44:47,800 --> 00:44:51,799
Speaker 2: And that is really fascinating to me. I told y'all

970
00:44:51,800 --> 00:44:53,719
Speaker 2: that might be a two Americas. I think y'all had

971
00:44:53,760 --> 00:44:55,960
Speaker 2: America for maybe even five Americas.

972
00:44:56,160 --> 00:44:58,440
Speaker 3: Americas always are two white Americas.

973
00:44:58,520 --> 00:45:00,840
Speaker 6: That's when white people see that white people are confusing,

974
00:45:01,320 --> 00:45:02,680
Speaker 6: you know what I mean? Because I don't hear niggas

975
00:45:02,719 --> 00:45:03,960
Speaker 6: in the wild saying hard R.

976
00:45:04,600 --> 00:45:06,239
Speaker 3: Never say that.

977
00:45:06,320 --> 00:45:08,760
Speaker 6: You feel me like like you said, like we spoken

978
00:45:08,800 --> 00:45:10,600
Speaker 6: to it before. You know, Mike, it might happen in

979
00:45:10,640 --> 00:45:13,560
Speaker 6: corporate settings. You know, you might just you might describe

980
00:45:13,600 --> 00:45:15,319
Speaker 6: the INN word. I don't even think I thought I

981
00:45:15,400 --> 00:45:15,919
Speaker 6: say in word.

982
00:45:15,960 --> 00:45:17,880
Speaker 3: I don't know if I've said hard R outside of

983
00:45:17,920 --> 00:45:20,759
Speaker 3: this right here. You know, I was not a talking

984
00:45:20,840 --> 00:45:23,560
Speaker 3: on the podcast. You feel what I'm saying like dogs?

985
00:45:23,680 --> 00:45:25,520
Speaker 6: Ye? Yeah, I don't know man, I think that's some

986
00:45:25,560 --> 00:45:27,919
Speaker 6: white people shit that that white man didn't know there's

987
00:45:27,960 --> 00:45:31,120
Speaker 6: two white Americas about the other white America.

988
00:45:31,160 --> 00:45:34,560
Speaker 3: Man, maybe they aren't. I don't know, Like.

989
00:45:36,880 --> 00:45:41,040
Speaker 5: I don't know on some pro post grad white people ship.

990
00:45:40,920 --> 00:45:43,160
Speaker 3: Right interesting interesting, bro?

991
00:45:43,280 --> 00:45:45,200
Speaker 6: But that I mean, come on, like you hard Are

992
00:45:45,239 --> 00:45:49,000
Speaker 6: you really thought that? Like, bro, you know what I'm saying.

993
00:45:49,040 --> 00:45:51,560
Speaker 6: You don't got the internet, you.

994
00:45:51,520 --> 00:45:52,000
Speaker 4: Know what I mean?

995
00:45:52,600 --> 00:45:54,799
Speaker 1: Some people, I mean, I mean, loo, look, I believe

996
00:45:54,840 --> 00:45:58,200
Speaker 1: it because white people know so little about black people.

997
00:45:58,239 --> 00:46:00,120
Speaker 5: Like we discussed before, like like in a group. I

998
00:46:00,160 --> 00:46:01,840
Speaker 5: was like, bro, watch Jeopardy.

999
00:46:02,719 --> 00:46:04,960
Speaker 1: If you want to know how how black people have

1000
00:46:05,000 --> 00:46:06,799
Speaker 1: to know so much about white people to move in

1001
00:46:06,840 --> 00:46:08,719
Speaker 1: this country and how little they have to know about

1002
00:46:08,719 --> 00:46:12,640
Speaker 1: black people, watch Jeopardy and watch these fucking brain scientists,

1003
00:46:12,840 --> 00:46:15,640
Speaker 1: these lawyers, these college professors. Watch them go zero for

1004
00:46:15,680 --> 00:46:19,160
Speaker 1: five on a black history category, right like they don't

1005
00:46:19,200 --> 00:46:19,920
Speaker 1: know shit about it.

1006
00:46:20,880 --> 00:46:21,799
Speaker 4: You're so right about that.

1007
00:46:21,840 --> 00:46:24,080
Speaker 2: It's like, this is how much a Honus Wagner rookie

1008
00:46:24,160 --> 00:46:26,560
Speaker 2: card sold for in nineteen thirty seven. And then like

1009
00:46:26,640 --> 00:46:29,720
Speaker 2: they know, to the saint, the one hundred dollars question

1010
00:46:29,800 --> 00:46:32,760
Speaker 2: about black movies is like never heard of Friday.

1011
00:46:32,880 --> 00:46:35,879
Speaker 1: You know what I mean, You're like, this is this

1012
00:46:35,960 --> 00:46:38,520
Speaker 1: preacher from Atlanta had a dream do do do Do do?

1013
00:46:38,960 --> 00:46:40,560
Speaker 5: Martin Luther King as Martin Luther King.

1014
00:46:42,360 --> 00:46:43,000
Speaker 4: All four?

1015
00:46:44,000 --> 00:46:44,959
Speaker 3: Of course it was.

1016
00:46:47,400 --> 00:46:48,280
Speaker 4: Who is Future?

1017
00:46:50,520 --> 00:46:52,880
Speaker 3: Literally they'll be like, who is future? I really wondering.

1018
00:46:53,120 --> 00:46:54,440
Speaker 3: I've never heard the future before.

1019
00:46:58,680 --> 00:47:01,960
Speaker 2: That is such a that's such a good points right

1020
00:47:02,000 --> 00:47:02,440
Speaker 2: about that?

1021
00:47:02,640 --> 00:47:02,839
Speaker 3: Yeah?

1022
00:47:02,920 --> 00:47:05,000
Speaker 1: Like like and it happened because that one viral clip

1023
00:47:05,000 --> 00:47:06,719
Speaker 1: where home he ain't know what the Green Book was.

1024
00:47:06,880 --> 00:47:09,319
Speaker 5: For you right right right, for black people to travel

1025
00:47:09,360 --> 00:47:10,480
Speaker 5: saf What did he say?

1026
00:47:10,520 --> 00:47:12,920
Speaker 3: It was the Black Book because it was a bless.

1027
00:47:15,280 --> 00:47:18,000
Speaker 5: Category, said the Black Book.

1028
00:47:18,440 --> 00:47:20,719
Speaker 3: And he said it like the Black Book. I guess

1029
00:47:20,920 --> 00:47:22,680
Speaker 3: like because they're black, you know what I mean?

1030
00:47:24,239 --> 00:47:26,440
Speaker 2: True that, but that, but that tone of voice is

1031
00:47:26,480 --> 00:47:28,400
Speaker 2: so part of it that it's like, I can't believe

1032
00:47:28,440 --> 00:47:30,200
Speaker 2: I'm being asked about this topic?

1033
00:47:31,680 --> 00:47:32,000
Speaker 4: Was it?

1034
00:47:32,360 --> 00:47:33,920
Speaker 2: Martin Luther King Junior?

1035
00:47:33,920 --> 00:47:38,480
Speaker 3: Who right on Jeopardy? We don't have anything anymore, you

1036
00:47:38,520 --> 00:47:39,600
Speaker 3: know what I mean? Come on?

1037
00:47:42,239 --> 00:47:42,439
Speaker 4: Yeah?

1038
00:47:42,480 --> 00:47:44,600
Speaker 2: I would always love when I was at my grandma's

1039
00:47:44,640 --> 00:47:47,600
Speaker 2: house because she will whoop my ass on Jeopardy, except

1040
00:47:47,640 --> 00:47:50,920
Speaker 2: for when we got to sports or we got to

1041
00:47:51,000 --> 00:47:53,040
Speaker 2: anything that wasn't about wegroes.

1042
00:47:57,400 --> 00:47:59,760
Speaker 3: I'll take over here, Grandma.

1043
00:47:59,800 --> 00:48:01,320
Speaker 4: That was that was my safe space.

1044
00:48:01,520 --> 00:48:06,839
Speaker 3: Absolutely. I know an NBA category came through. You're like, oh,

1045
00:48:07,000 --> 00:48:08,080
Speaker 3: easy money dog.

1046
00:48:08,000 --> 00:48:13,560
Speaker 4: Right, that's rubbing rubbing my hands together on jock jams.

1047
00:48:13,600 --> 00:48:20,000
Speaker 3: You know what I mean? Tore off the warm ups.

1048
00:48:20,239 --> 00:48:23,840
Speaker 3: We ready now, baby, you feel what I'm saying. We

1049
00:48:23,960 --> 00:48:27,879
Speaker 3: really niggas really created jock jams for people to.

1050
00:48:27,960 --> 00:48:33,200
Speaker 6: Come out to, like, like middle schoolers like play jack Jams.

1051
00:48:33,719 --> 00:48:37,600
Speaker 3: I'm like, Nigga bro Tupac was existing, he has songs.

1052
00:48:37,920 --> 00:48:41,120
Speaker 3: You want me to play fucking jock jams. Nigga bro

1053
00:48:42,000 --> 00:48:45,520
Speaker 3: Let the Dogs. We're sixteen years old.

1054
00:48:45,560 --> 00:48:47,799
Speaker 5: Why are we turning up to who Let the Dogs?

1055
00:48:48,320 --> 00:48:48,480
Speaker 1: Bro?

1056
00:48:48,719 --> 00:48:51,640
Speaker 6: We have the coolest humans on the planet dropping music

1057
00:48:51,760 --> 00:48:56,040
Speaker 6: right now, and you want to play this weird ass shit. Goodness,

1058
00:48:56,280 --> 00:48:58,799
Speaker 6: my soul made crazy money off that. I wonder how

1059
00:48:58,880 --> 00:49:00,560
Speaker 6: much money jock jams.

1060
00:49:02,480 --> 00:49:02,839
Speaker 3: I bet.

1061
00:49:02,880 --> 00:49:05,760
Speaker 6: I bet the child of the person who is living

1062
00:49:06,000 --> 00:49:10,320
Speaker 6: fabulously from their death they daddy created jack Jans.

1063
00:49:10,880 --> 00:49:13,320
Speaker 2: But they still, yeah, they still say that's the most

1064
00:49:13,520 --> 00:49:16,640
Speaker 2: That's the most valuable song you could create is a

1065
00:49:16,680 --> 00:49:18,920
Speaker 2: song that gets put like seven Nation Army made the

1066
00:49:18,920 --> 00:49:21,719
Speaker 2: White Stripes like a billion dollars because he gets played

1067
00:49:21,719 --> 00:49:22,920
Speaker 2: as so many sporting events.

1068
00:49:22,920 --> 00:49:25,680
Speaker 4: Like, Yes, I wonder how much made off.

1069
00:49:30,160 --> 00:49:31,960
Speaker 2: Was running the hell out of that made a lot

1070
00:49:31,960 --> 00:49:32,600
Speaker 2: of money along.

1071
00:49:33,640 --> 00:49:36,000
Speaker 6: I've made a lot of money in Alabama too, had.

1072
00:49:40,320 --> 00:49:42,920
Speaker 4: All right, have y'all heard of ghost kitchens? I'm excited.

1073
00:49:43,080 --> 00:49:45,399
Speaker 2: I think Jackson just mentioned he never heard of it? Okay, never,

1074
00:49:46,080 --> 00:49:48,279
Speaker 2: So there's a there's a spot in Is it in

1075
00:49:48,360 --> 00:49:48,960
Speaker 2: Santa Monica?

1076
00:49:49,040 --> 00:49:49,560
Speaker 4: Mendocino?

1077
00:49:49,880 --> 00:49:50,200
Speaker 3: John?

1078
00:49:50,440 --> 00:49:50,640
Speaker 4: Oh?

1079
00:49:50,719 --> 00:49:54,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean it's isn't there? There are multiple places.

1080
00:49:54,560 --> 00:49:58,480
Speaker 2: Mendocino Farms is like a sandwich salad place in l

1081
00:49:58,560 --> 00:50:00,960
Speaker 2: A that I had for the first time when we

1082
00:50:00,960 --> 00:50:01,400
Speaker 2: were doing.

1083
00:50:01,280 --> 00:50:03,040
Speaker 3: Elevated fast food. Guys.

1084
00:50:03,360 --> 00:50:04,400
Speaker 2: Shut the fuck up.

1085
00:50:07,600 --> 00:50:10,600
Speaker 6: If old girl from Indiana would have sent me the Mendos,

1086
00:50:10,880 --> 00:50:11,840
Speaker 6: we wouldn't be beefing.

1087
00:50:12,719 --> 00:50:15,120
Speaker 3: It's not a fucking subway, you know what I mean?

1088
00:50:18,880 --> 00:50:20,200
Speaker 3: So anyway, I had it.

1089
00:50:21,320 --> 00:50:23,960
Speaker 2: We all ate there when we were up at Buckets

1090
00:50:24,239 --> 00:50:26,799
Speaker 2: during the playoffs last year. It was really good, and

1091
00:50:26,920 --> 00:50:28,520
Speaker 2: I was bummed out because there isn't one in Long

1092
00:50:28,560 --> 00:50:29,279
Speaker 2: Beach and I would like.

1093
00:50:29,200 --> 00:50:32,400
Speaker 4: To eat their feet that much. Oh it was great.

1094
00:50:32,480 --> 00:50:34,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, Yeah, it's like what I'm looking for. It's like

1095
00:50:34,560 --> 00:50:39,040
Speaker 2: a good sandwich that's not just a deli sandwich. So anyway,

1096
00:50:39,640 --> 00:50:43,400
Speaker 2: Shar told me that they it came up on Postmates

1097
00:50:43,840 --> 00:50:46,240
Speaker 2: in in Long Beach and I was like, oh, okay, that's interesting.

1098
00:50:46,320 --> 00:50:48,440
Speaker 2: And it turns out that what it is, because they

1099
00:50:48,440 --> 00:50:51,160
Speaker 2: don't have a restaurant here, is what's called a ghost kitchen,

1100
00:50:51,640 --> 00:50:55,120
Speaker 2: which is the new form of American hell skate for

1101
00:50:55,200 --> 00:50:57,879
Speaker 2: our culture deteriorating into a series.

1102
00:50:57,600 --> 00:51:00,000
Speaker 4: Of apps, which is this is what it goes.

1103
00:51:00,239 --> 00:51:04,839
Speaker 2: Kitchen is someone rents a big ass industrial building. They

1104
00:51:04,920 --> 00:51:08,200
Speaker 2: then set up a bunch of different spots inside of

1105
00:51:08,200 --> 00:51:12,240
Speaker 2: it to cook, and you just pretend that is Mendocino Farms.

1106
00:51:12,280 --> 00:51:13,600
Speaker 4: There's just some dude.

1107
00:51:13,840 --> 00:51:16,520
Speaker 2: In there making their recipes and giving them to the

1108
00:51:16,520 --> 00:51:20,360
Speaker 2: Postmads person. You literally can't walk up to it and

1109
00:51:20,560 --> 00:51:24,440
Speaker 2: order food because it doesn't exist. It's just that's why

1110
00:51:24,480 --> 00:51:27,040
Speaker 2: they call it a ghost kitchen, because it just exists

1111
00:51:27,080 --> 00:51:28,160
Speaker 2: only for the app.

1112
00:51:28,640 --> 00:51:30,799
Speaker 4: And I don't know why, but it just seems very

1113
00:51:32,480 --> 00:51:33,360
Speaker 4: dystopian of it.

1114
00:51:35,200 --> 00:51:35,920
Speaker 3: Trust at all.

1115
00:51:39,560 --> 00:51:42,919
Speaker 7: Is this actually Mendosino Farms making the food? Or it's

1116
00:51:42,920 --> 00:51:43,400
Speaker 7: like gym?

1117
00:51:43,719 --> 00:51:46,920
Speaker 2: What is it Mendocino Farms. That's what I don't like

1118
00:51:46,960 --> 00:51:49,839
Speaker 2: about it. What is Mendocino Farms. It's their recipe, it's

1119
00:51:49,840 --> 00:51:53,520
Speaker 2: their recipes. It's like it's a collaborative space for a

1120
00:51:53,560 --> 00:51:55,120
Speaker 2: different restaurants.

1121
00:51:54,560 --> 00:51:58,719
Speaker 3: To make money, you know what I mean?

1122
00:51:59,120 --> 00:52:02,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, Like, I'm like, you're you're saying, like, who's paying

1123
00:52:02,520 --> 00:52:03,840
Speaker 2: the guy that's making the food?

1124
00:52:04,440 --> 00:52:06,759
Speaker 3: Mike, just be happy that there's a Mendos that you

1125
00:52:06,800 --> 00:52:11,160
Speaker 3: can order from. Look at the good This world is trash. Okay,

1126
00:52:11,400 --> 00:52:14,560
Speaker 3: we know it. Let's not that's not Let's not trip

1127
00:52:14,600 --> 00:52:15,319
Speaker 3: off of it, bro.

1128
00:52:15,600 --> 00:52:17,480
Speaker 4: We have ordered from it. I mean I won't order

1129
00:52:17,560 --> 00:52:18,279
Speaker 4: how when I do.

1130
00:52:20,280 --> 00:52:20,640
Speaker 3: Sandwich?

1131
00:52:20,680 --> 00:52:20,920
Speaker 4: Come on?

1132
00:52:20,960 --> 00:52:23,719
Speaker 2: But the Great Kitchen Thing I'm with Tyler.

1133
00:52:25,200 --> 00:52:26,560
Speaker 7: Like when he ordered from it?

1134
00:52:26,600 --> 00:52:27,080
Speaker 3: Does it?

1135
00:52:27,120 --> 00:52:28,680
Speaker 7: Does it eat like the regular?

1136
00:52:29,080 --> 00:52:29,239
Speaker 4: Yes?

1137
00:52:29,280 --> 00:52:31,400
Speaker 2: And it has the packaging and everything too. But it's

1138
00:52:31,480 --> 00:52:34,600
Speaker 2: just Jim and long Beach in a fucking building by himself,

1139
00:52:35,760 --> 00:52:37,600
Speaker 2: making the ship and putting it in a bag and

1140
00:52:37,719 --> 00:52:38,960
Speaker 2: handing it to an uber guy.

1141
00:52:38,960 --> 00:52:40,400
Speaker 3: It's probably robots, bro.

1142
00:52:41,280 --> 00:52:44,320
Speaker 1: Bro, I still remember the sandwich I have from that motherfucker.

1143
00:52:44,400 --> 00:52:46,439
Speaker 1: It was a FORSTRAMI all right. That ship was good

1144
00:52:46,440 --> 00:52:49,160
Speaker 1: as fuck. Like I have very high I hope that

1145
00:52:49,239 --> 00:52:52,080
Speaker 1: sandwich is very high a steam. I'll tell you that much.

1146
00:52:52,200 --> 00:52:54,520
Speaker 1: And I can imagine, like you order some ship and

1147
00:52:54,520 --> 00:52:55,840
Speaker 1: it just doesn't meet the expectations.

1148
00:52:56,320 --> 00:52:57,879
Speaker 3: He said it's good. That's he said.

1149
00:52:57,880 --> 00:52:58,560
Speaker 4: It was good.

1150
00:52:58,880 --> 00:53:00,319
Speaker 3: It was good. It's the same bot.

1151
00:53:01,080 --> 00:53:03,040
Speaker 2: It was good, but it's just but part of what

1152
00:53:03,080 --> 00:53:05,279
Speaker 2: I liked about it was that it's a restaurant and

1153
00:53:05,360 --> 00:53:07,320
Speaker 2: I walked in and I felt comfortable in it.

1154
00:53:07,480 --> 00:53:10,440
Speaker 6: But you were ordering over each so you were in

1155
00:53:10,440 --> 00:53:14,520
Speaker 6: a restaurant anyway, It's it's a robot, major fucking sandwich

1156
00:53:14,560 --> 00:53:16,960
Speaker 6: and it was delicious and you liked it, and you

1157
00:53:17,120 --> 00:53:20,640
Speaker 6: gotta deal with it. Mike, you hain'ted a ghost kitchen. Okay,

1158
00:53:21,360 --> 00:53:24,440
Speaker 6: it's okay, it's all right. We probably have all ate

1159
00:53:24,600 --> 00:53:26,640
Speaker 6: eated a ghost kitchen and not know it. You're not

1160
00:53:26,719 --> 00:53:31,040
Speaker 6: the only one, Okay.

1161
00:53:32,400 --> 00:53:36,480
Speaker 3: I'm just like, you're okay. You have no response.

1162
00:53:36,880 --> 00:53:37,719
Speaker 2: I had no responses.

1163
00:53:38,840 --> 00:53:42,520
Speaker 1: Make a great point, yeah, like like how how how

1164
00:53:42,880 --> 00:53:45,319
Speaker 1: how expansive is this? Because I can imagine there's only

1165
00:53:45,440 --> 00:53:47,120
Speaker 1: certain types of words, like a sandwich shop.

1166
00:53:47,120 --> 00:53:47,719
Speaker 3: Okay, I can get that.

1167
00:53:47,760 --> 00:53:49,719
Speaker 1: You just need some co cut some bread, run your

1168
00:53:49,719 --> 00:53:53,440
Speaker 1: ship right, like, like, are there like Jamaican spots that

1169
00:53:53,480 --> 00:53:57,400
Speaker 1: are fucking ghost kitchens and ship No, we would become.

1170
00:53:57,360 --> 00:54:00,000
Speaker 2: No, it's become a big thing in southern California because

1171
00:54:00,040 --> 00:54:02,640
Speaker 2: as people were a whole I read a whole article

1172
00:54:02,680 --> 00:54:02,840
Speaker 2: in the.

1173
00:54:04,840 --> 00:54:06,960
Speaker 6: To me, it feels like it only makes sense to

1174
00:54:07,000 --> 00:54:10,720
Speaker 6: me if it is like popularized, you know what I'm saying,

1175
00:54:10,840 --> 00:54:13,839
Speaker 6: like fast food joints. I got to if it like not,

1176
00:54:13,880 --> 00:54:16,120
Speaker 6: where get my Jamaica spots to maka food. It's only

1177
00:54:16,160 --> 00:54:17,440
Speaker 6: one of them on a planet.

1178
00:54:17,480 --> 00:54:20,520
Speaker 3: Dog, you know what I'm saying, They're not recreating that

1179
00:54:20,640 --> 00:54:21,440
Speaker 3: quality of food.

1180
00:54:21,800 --> 00:54:24,920
Speaker 2: If it's so wrong about how popular.

1181
00:54:26,480 --> 00:54:28,800
Speaker 3: I'm saying, I'm saying you're not. You're not going to

1182
00:54:28,880 --> 00:54:29,640
Speaker 3: find a Natcha, y'all.

1183
00:54:29,680 --> 00:54:31,520
Speaker 6: A lot of I can't order that from a Ghasts

1184
00:54:31,560 --> 00:54:33,759
Speaker 6: kitchen because there's only one, you know what I mean,

1185
00:54:33,840 --> 00:54:39,120
Speaker 6: Like that's what you're talking about, Mike, right, I've.

1186
00:54:37,880 --> 00:54:41,520
Speaker 7: Heard of the inverse of this, where like Denny's, there's

1187
00:54:41,520 --> 00:54:44,400
Speaker 7: a place on Postmads or Breads called like the Grilled

1188
00:54:44,480 --> 00:54:47,440
Speaker 7: Cheese Spot, and all you can do is grilled cheese.

1189
00:54:47,520 --> 00:54:50,600
Speaker 7: And though they're just coming from Denny's, like they're literally

1190
00:54:50,600 --> 00:54:53,320
Speaker 7: just coming from not not like a ghost kitchen literally

1191
00:54:53,360 --> 00:54:55,719
Speaker 7: a Denny's and they just make a grilled cheese handed

1192
00:54:55,760 --> 00:54:59,680
Speaker 7: to a postman's driver sell it as something to brand

1193
00:55:00,000 --> 00:55:00,319
Speaker 7: all that.

1194
00:55:00,840 --> 00:55:04,240
Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, I just texted John and Tyler a picture

1195
00:55:04,280 --> 00:55:06,440
Speaker 2: from one of the stories I read about ghost kitchens.

1196
00:55:06,440 --> 00:55:09,360
Speaker 2: It's just it's just a row of shipping containers with

1197
00:55:09,480 --> 00:55:12,880
Speaker 2: doors on them, and it's just these like fake little kitchens.

1198
00:55:12,960 --> 00:55:17,919
Speaker 3: Hey, man, this ain't it, bro. The vibes are not here.

1199
00:55:18,280 --> 00:55:19,479
Speaker 3: It's vibeless food.

1200
00:55:19,640 --> 00:55:23,520
Speaker 4: It's fun, it's fun. It's just some guy in there

1201
00:55:23,560 --> 00:55:24,240
Speaker 4: by himself.

1202
00:55:27,800 --> 00:55:30,200
Speaker 3: This is ugly also.

1203
00:55:31,560 --> 00:55:34,720
Speaker 4: Also also a central It's not I'm.

1204
00:55:34,560 --> 00:55:36,319
Speaker 7: Not saying it's good or man, I'm just saying. John

1205
00:55:36,440 --> 00:55:38,920
Speaker 7: was all like, it's.

1206
00:55:38,680 --> 00:55:43,160
Speaker 3: Just stopyan, bro, Like Russia, you know what I mean.

1207
00:55:43,680 --> 00:55:48,240
Speaker 1: Like it's I I googled if they're Jamaican ghost kitchens,

1208
00:55:48,239 --> 00:55:51,040
Speaker 1: and there are, and there's one in Virginia. There's one

1209
00:55:51,080 --> 00:55:54,440
Speaker 1: in Virginia, and and and the fucking lead says a

1210
00:55:54,520 --> 00:55:57,279
Speaker 1: Jamaican ghost kitchen has opened in Sterling. Sterling is a

1211
00:55:57,600 --> 00:56:01,040
Speaker 1: city in Virginia. Grandpa Hanks Jamaican Kitchen serving oxtail and

1212
00:56:01,120 --> 00:56:03,600
Speaker 1: jerk chicken from O'Malley's pub.

1213
00:56:04,120 --> 00:56:07,760
Speaker 3: What no, but it is Grandpa Hanks. The only Grandpa

1214
00:56:07,840 --> 00:56:09,480
Speaker 3: Hanks is Grandpa Hanks because you're not.

1215
00:56:09,760 --> 00:56:13,440
Speaker 6: If it's Grandpa Hanks, it seems like it's probably nasty Jamaican.

1216
00:56:13,120 --> 00:56:18,120
Speaker 2: Grandpa in the name of a fictional restaurant not so wrong?

1217
00:56:18,320 --> 00:56:20,920
Speaker 3: Are Henry is a popular name in Jamaica? Like is

1218
00:56:20,920 --> 00:56:21,160
Speaker 3: that just?

1219
00:56:21,200 --> 00:56:23,960
Speaker 6: Are they just making up this?

1220
00:56:23,960 --> 00:56:24,279
Speaker 4: This is?

1221
00:56:24,320 --> 00:56:27,840
Speaker 6: This is I don't like, Like I don't like Jamaican kitchen,

1222
00:56:27,880 --> 00:56:30,319
Speaker 6: Jamaican food Like that feels like that would be.

1223
00:56:30,320 --> 00:56:31,920
Speaker 3: In a ghast ghost kitchen, you know what I mean?

1224
00:56:32,000 --> 00:56:35,560
Speaker 7: Like if it's a theme where it's like I do

1225
00:56:35,640 --> 00:56:37,680
Speaker 7: not like this, so I pretend I do not totally,

1226
00:56:39,120 --> 00:56:39,640
Speaker 7: but it.

1227
00:56:39,600 --> 00:56:40,319
Speaker 4: Is nice to have it.

1228
00:56:42,400 --> 00:56:45,520
Speaker 1: I don't want no motherfucking oxtail from an Irish pub period.

1229
00:56:46,120 --> 00:56:48,160
Speaker 1: I'll go there for some shepherd's fire or some ship,

1230
00:56:48,480 --> 00:56:51,239
Speaker 1: but you you serving me some goddamn curry goat from

1231
00:56:51,320 --> 00:56:54,200
Speaker 1: O'Malley's Pub.

1232
00:56:53,960 --> 00:56:57,560
Speaker 6: From Nigga that don't make no sense, Nigga, that oxtel

1233
00:56:57,600 --> 00:57:00,239
Speaker 6: soup ain't gonna slap like you're supposed to have.

1234
00:57:00,160 --> 00:57:01,440
Speaker 3: A motherfucking named shemus.

1235
00:57:02,040 --> 00:57:04,879
Speaker 1: God damn picking up my current peas and rice now

1236
00:57:05,080 --> 00:57:07,920
Speaker 1: no nigga, they're.

1237
00:57:07,760 --> 00:57:10,760
Speaker 4: Giving you corn knoxtaleg.

1238
00:57:14,800 --> 00:57:18,880
Speaker 2: All right, Okay, let's talk about it. I know all

1239
00:57:18,920 --> 00:57:20,760
Speaker 2: three of us have some thoughts about there's just no

1240
00:57:20,840 --> 00:57:23,320
Speaker 2: way to segue into this ship. But this Jonathan Major

1241
00:57:23,400 --> 00:57:28,400
Speaker 2: ship and avoided fucking bummer on every level, from what

1242
00:57:28,480 --> 00:57:30,960
Speaker 2: may or may not have actually happened, to the discourse

1243
00:57:31,000 --> 00:57:33,720
Speaker 2: around it, to everything else. And I'll just start out

1244
00:57:33,720 --> 00:57:37,160
Speaker 2: by saying this, It is very bothersome to me, and

1245
00:57:37,200 --> 00:57:39,160
Speaker 2: I have a lot of friends posting ship like this

1246
00:57:39,240 --> 00:57:43,080
Speaker 2: on the Internet, that people are acting like it's an

1247
00:57:43,120 --> 00:57:50,080
Speaker 2: act of solidarity racially to doubt the words of a

1248
00:57:50,120 --> 00:57:53,920
Speaker 2: woman saying she's been abused, And that really bothers a

1249
00:57:54,000 --> 00:57:55,360
Speaker 2: fucking hell out of me. But I have had so

1250
00:57:55,440 --> 00:57:58,560
Speaker 2: many friends reachweeting people saying stuff like I'm gonna give

1251
00:57:58,600 --> 00:58:00,919
Speaker 2: him the same benefit of the doubt the media gave

1252
00:58:01,640 --> 00:58:02,720
Speaker 2: these other white actors.

1253
00:58:02,760 --> 00:58:03,000
Speaker 4: Whatever.

1254
00:58:03,040 --> 00:58:07,320
Speaker 2: It's like, God, I don't yeah, I don't know. The

1255
00:58:07,360 --> 00:58:11,640
Speaker 2: whole ship is just like it's just I literally kept

1256
00:58:11,640 --> 00:58:14,240
Speaker 2: me off the internet all weekend because I just saw

1257
00:58:14,280 --> 00:58:16,080
Speaker 2: like six things my friends were retweeting. I was like,

1258
00:58:16,120 --> 00:58:17,440
Speaker 2: let me get the fuck out of here. Bro p

1259
00:58:17,560 --> 00:58:18,400
Speaker 2: play with my kids.

1260
00:58:19,120 --> 00:58:20,000
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's.

1261
00:58:21,720 --> 00:58:24,400
Speaker 1: I I haven't spoken on that on Twitter because I

1262
00:58:24,440 --> 00:58:28,200
Speaker 1: feel like so many people are just not are just

1263
00:58:28,320 --> 00:58:29,640
Speaker 1: missing the whole fucking.

1264
00:58:29,400 --> 00:58:30,560
Speaker 5: Point, right.

1265
00:58:31,120 --> 00:58:33,200
Speaker 1: I feel like, for one, I don't think it's really

1266
00:58:33,240 --> 00:58:36,920
Speaker 1: my space because I'm I'm not someone who's been a

1267
00:58:37,000 --> 00:58:39,880
Speaker 1: victim of that shit. I think that you know, times

1268
00:58:39,920 --> 00:58:41,760
Speaker 1: like this, we gotta give to Florida, and you know

1269
00:58:41,760 --> 00:58:45,480
Speaker 1: people have been through that shit. There was like a

1270
00:58:45,480 --> 00:58:49,960
Speaker 1: recent development where Jonathan Major's lawyer released a statement.

1271
00:58:49,720 --> 00:58:53,520
Speaker 5: Saying that that the woman is going to recant her statement.

1272
00:58:53,160 --> 00:58:55,640
Speaker 1: And all that and people and it's like a whole

1273
00:58:55,640 --> 00:58:57,480
Speaker 1: lot of people are like, yes, exonerations, see, this is

1274
00:58:57,480 --> 00:58:59,160
Speaker 1: what I'm telling you all about, and that shit doesn't

1275
00:58:59,160 --> 00:58:59,760
Speaker 1: mean anything to me.

1276
00:58:59,800 --> 00:59:04,200
Speaker 6: Brod evidence though there's video evidence, and I don't know,

1277
00:59:04,320 --> 00:59:05,920
Speaker 6: they don't know if it was her that it got there.

1278
00:59:06,160 --> 00:59:09,000
Speaker 6: It might have been the taxi driver that because apparently

1279
00:59:09,240 --> 00:59:12,080
Speaker 6: he was in a taxi. People were saying that she

1280
00:59:12,160 --> 00:59:16,040
Speaker 6: looked at his phone, saw that it was a woman.

1281
00:59:16,080 --> 00:59:18,680
Speaker 6: He was extal two and then he responded to her

1282
00:59:18,760 --> 00:59:22,280
Speaker 6: trying to grab his phone. And the taxi driver may

1283
00:59:22,480 --> 00:59:24,480
Speaker 6: be the person that call number one, maybe not her,

1284
00:59:24,840 --> 00:59:28,040
Speaker 6: So there's a lot of different questions about this. So

1285
00:59:28,080 --> 00:59:31,120
Speaker 6: if there's evidence in that way, Bro, there's no you know,

1286
00:59:31,160 --> 00:59:34,240
Speaker 6: she can recant that. But you know, I mean, he's abuser.

1287
00:59:34,320 --> 00:59:36,560
Speaker 6: She may be afraid. I mean, if he's if what

1288
00:59:36,680 --> 00:59:38,160
Speaker 6: he was doing is true, you know what I mean.

1289
00:59:38,400 --> 00:59:41,680
Speaker 1: Like she she went to the hospital with bruises and lacerations.

1290
00:59:41,680 --> 00:59:45,000
Speaker 1: Come on, So I mean so so, like I said,

1291
00:59:45,040 --> 00:59:48,600
Speaker 1: the recanning doesn't fucking move the needle for me at all,

1292
00:59:48,760 --> 00:59:52,040
Speaker 1: because I mean, this is a dude who is being

1293
00:59:52,240 --> 00:59:55,800
Speaker 1: anchored to the biggest fucking franchise in Hollywood for the

1294
00:59:55,800 --> 00:59:58,200
Speaker 1: next five years. This is a dude who they are

1295
00:59:58,360 --> 01:00:02,240
Speaker 1: entrusting to give the multiple pull billion dollar movies over

1296
01:00:02,280 --> 01:00:04,880
Speaker 1: the next five years. Right, the people behind this man,

1297
01:00:05,000 --> 01:00:06,840
Speaker 1: they can make shit like this go away, you know

1298
01:00:06,880 --> 01:00:08,919
Speaker 1: what I mean. So, so that really doesn't mean shit

1299
01:00:09,000 --> 01:00:11,800
Speaker 1: to me. We've seen plenty of people who have ran

1300
01:00:11,880 --> 01:00:15,080
Speaker 1: in Jonathan Major's circle come out and say that, yeah,

1301
01:00:15,920 --> 01:00:18,000
Speaker 1: this isn't anything new, this is his reputation, this is

1302
01:00:18,000 --> 01:00:20,440
Speaker 1: who he is. So I mean, look, my whole thing

1303
01:00:20,480 --> 01:00:22,640
Speaker 1: is this, I don't know these motherfuckers, and I have

1304
01:00:22,760 --> 01:00:25,320
Speaker 1: no problem just not fucking celebrity anymore.

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01:00:25,440 --> 01:00:28,000
Speaker 3: Right, Like I was, I was, I was with everybody.

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01:00:28,000 --> 01:00:28,880
Speaker 3: It was a feel good story.

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01:00:28,920 --> 01:00:31,280
Speaker 1: I was like, Yo, this this young man came out

1308
01:00:31,280 --> 01:00:34,320
Speaker 1: a relative obscurity and it's now in a fucking a listener.

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01:00:34,400 --> 01:00:36,360
Speaker 1: Good for him, Bro, I don't need to fuck with

1310
01:00:36,400 --> 01:00:38,720
Speaker 1: this dude anymore. I don't know that motherfucker. If he's

1311
01:00:38,760 --> 01:00:40,760
Speaker 1: an abusing, which all signs points to them for it's

1312
01:00:40,760 --> 01:00:41,440
Speaker 1: fucking him.

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01:00:41,600 --> 01:00:42,360
Speaker 3: It's that easy.

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01:00:42,440 --> 01:00:44,320
Speaker 5: Dog.

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01:00:44,840 --> 01:00:46,680
Speaker 3: Never trust a nigga that don't get his hairlined.

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01:00:46,760 --> 01:00:52,040
Speaker 6: Dog, you feel me, kn't trust your nigg can't trust

1317
01:00:52,040 --> 01:00:53,400
Speaker 6: your nigga with some dirty.

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01:00:53,120 --> 01:00:55,960
Speaker 3: Boots and no hairline, nigga. Can't trust a nigga do

1319
01:00:56,040 --> 01:00:58,000
Speaker 3: a push ups with a widow's peak. You feel what

1320
01:00:58,040 --> 01:01:01,400
Speaker 3: I'm saying, Bro, He had us break rules, nigga. You

1321
01:01:01,440 --> 01:01:03,600
Speaker 3: know what I'm saying. Some of these old rules were

1322
01:01:03,640 --> 01:01:06,040
Speaker 3: not far betterman somewhere, you know.

1323
01:01:06,040 --> 01:01:11,600
Speaker 1: What I mean, somewhere with wisdom, keep a fresh cut,

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01:01:11,760 --> 01:01:12,800
Speaker 1: keep some clean shoes.

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01:01:12,840 --> 01:01:15,200
Speaker 3: Nigga, that's a trustworthy nigga, you know what I mean.

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01:01:15,400 --> 01:01:17,400
Speaker 3: We don't trust no faction either.

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01:01:18,120 --> 01:01:21,200
Speaker 2: I think one other comment I made to y'all that

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01:01:21,280 --> 01:01:23,840
Speaker 2: I feel comfortable talking about on the pod that I

1329
01:01:23,880 --> 01:01:27,760
Speaker 2: do think goes across our races. When you're just talking

1330
01:01:27,800 --> 01:01:31,680
Speaker 2: about man in America, is I said, he he's a

1331
01:01:31,760 --> 01:01:34,800
Speaker 2: guy who used to be a dork who's now super

1332
01:01:34,800 --> 01:01:37,760
Speaker 2: popular and considered very attractive. And I said, so, of

1333
01:01:37,760 --> 01:01:39,000
Speaker 2: course he's a terrible person.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, cheek bone and cheek bone shoting, bro, we saw that.

1335
01:01:48,320 --> 01:01:50,840
Speaker 6: You know, he made it out of that nose. Bro,

1336
01:01:51,160 --> 01:01:55,600
Speaker 6: he had some scars. Niggas, you feel me. You all

1337
01:01:55,720 --> 01:01:59,080
Speaker 6: carry that nose around in middle school in high school

1338
01:01:59,400 --> 01:02:04,440
Speaker 6: and not get fuck that nigga, bro, hey fuck the

1339
01:02:04,520 --> 01:02:04,960
Speaker 6: man it is.

1340
01:02:05,160 --> 01:02:09,160
Speaker 2: But my point was there is like, and this is

1341
01:02:09,560 --> 01:02:14,240
Speaker 2: part and parcel with the whole inceel craziness. Is this

1342
01:02:14,440 --> 01:02:18,720
Speaker 2: like people who turn rejection, who take rejection and turn

1343
01:02:18,800 --> 01:02:23,520
Speaker 2: it into seeing women as the enemy, markers or measurements

1344
01:02:23,640 --> 01:02:26,720
Speaker 2: or yes, an opposing force or something. And I do

1345
01:02:26,840 --> 01:02:31,280
Speaker 2: think that can manifest itself in ways that are annoying

1346
01:02:31,680 --> 01:02:36,200
Speaker 2: but not so scary, like just you know, certain musicians

1347
01:02:36,200 --> 01:02:39,000
Speaker 2: you can maybe talk about whatever else, but it's also

1348
01:02:39,120 --> 01:02:41,440
Speaker 2: on the all the other way over to people who

1349
01:02:41,480 --> 01:02:44,840
Speaker 2: are really violent or who do you know, these horrible

1350
01:02:44,840 --> 01:02:48,160
Speaker 2: things or whatever. So I do think that's a common

1351
01:02:48,440 --> 01:02:54,240
Speaker 2: thing though, like again across not just like any individual

1352
01:02:54,240 --> 01:02:57,040
Speaker 2: group of people, but like men in this country in particular,

1353
01:02:57,080 --> 01:02:59,480
Speaker 2: it does seem to be like if you've experienced shame

1354
01:02:59,560 --> 01:03:03,120
Speaker 2: or reject or something, that it metabolizes into this kind

1355
01:03:03,120 --> 01:03:05,960
Speaker 2: of darker you know, part of a personality or whatever.

1356
01:03:06,040 --> 01:03:09,040
Speaker 2: So I honestly that was my first reaction when I

1357
01:03:09,040 --> 01:03:11,120
Speaker 2: heard it, was like anytime I see a bunch of

1358
01:03:11,120 --> 01:03:13,320
Speaker 2: headlines or like this person used to be a nerd

1359
01:03:13,400 --> 01:03:16,480
Speaker 2: and now everyone's thirsting after him. It's like, Ah, I

1360
01:03:16,480 --> 01:03:18,560
Speaker 2: don't think human brain is not meant to go through

1361
01:03:18,600 --> 01:03:19,880
Speaker 2: that transformation.

1362
01:03:20,000 --> 01:03:20,720
Speaker 3: I don't know, bro.

1363
01:03:22,360 --> 01:03:24,080
Speaker 5: Yeah, that's a good rule of them there.

1364
01:03:25,080 --> 01:03:27,840
Speaker 3: I hate to say, but it's a fact. But I mean, like,

1365
01:03:28,280 --> 01:03:30,040
Speaker 3: regardless of what happens.

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01:03:30,840 --> 01:03:32,960
Speaker 6: You know, like Tyler spoke to the fact that he

1367
01:03:33,040 --> 01:03:36,400
Speaker 6: got some you know dudes, he's he's that are making

1368
01:03:36,440 --> 01:03:39,600
Speaker 6: a lot of money off of his personage, you know

1369
01:03:39,600 --> 01:03:41,680
Speaker 6: what I mean, who he is, you know what I mean,

1370
01:03:42,200 --> 01:03:46,360
Speaker 6: And regardless of what what happens in in the when

1371
01:03:46,440 --> 01:03:48,800
Speaker 6: it comes to the law and if he goes to

1372
01:03:48,880 --> 01:03:51,160
Speaker 6: you know, if he's convicted of anything.

1373
01:03:50,880 --> 01:03:53,040
Speaker 3: Or whatever he considered, or that they say he actually

1374
01:03:53,040 --> 01:03:54,800
Speaker 3: did it or not whatever, Bro.

1375
01:03:54,920 --> 01:03:58,200
Speaker 6: We know what the fuck happened. We know what happened,

1376
01:03:58,640 --> 01:04:01,240
Speaker 6: you know what I mean? And I and I personally

1377
01:04:01,280 --> 01:04:02,160
Speaker 6: cannot support that.

1378
01:04:02,080 --> 01:04:04,040
Speaker 3: Ship at all. Thought.

1379
01:04:04,160 --> 01:04:06,960
Speaker 6: Yeah, and I mean like I mean that that you know,

1380
01:04:07,080 --> 01:04:10,800
Speaker 6: that's just the evidence is all there, you know what

1381
01:04:10,800 --> 01:04:13,080
Speaker 6: I mean. She went to the hospital for last races,

1382
01:04:13,120 --> 01:04:15,840
Speaker 6: Like Tyler said, you know what I mean, There's people

1383
01:04:15,880 --> 01:04:18,560
Speaker 6: within his circle are speaking to things he's done. There's

1384
01:04:18,600 --> 01:04:21,040
Speaker 6: people that there's tweets that are coming up that people

1385
01:04:21,040 --> 01:04:23,760
Speaker 6: were afraid to say his name and now are saying

1386
01:04:23,920 --> 01:04:25,080
Speaker 6: this is who I was speaking to.

1387
01:04:26,000 --> 01:04:28,600
Speaker 3: You know that that have connections with him. Hey, man,

1388
01:04:29,440 --> 01:04:31,320
Speaker 3: I believe what you want. I believe what you want.

1389
01:04:31,400 --> 01:04:34,439
Speaker 6: But like, yeah, bro, like I just bro, And it's

1390
01:04:34,480 --> 01:04:36,320
Speaker 6: not rocket science here, you know what I mean. It's

1391
01:04:36,320 --> 01:04:36,920
Speaker 6: not it's.

1392
01:04:36,800 --> 01:04:40,760
Speaker 1: Not difficult, and it's it's folks putting themselves out there saying, yes,

1393
01:04:40,840 --> 01:04:43,200
Speaker 1: I will stand on on the fact that this is

1394
01:04:43,200 --> 01:04:45,240
Speaker 1: who he is, he's been for years. These are dudes

1395
01:04:45,240 --> 01:04:47,280
Speaker 1: who are in the industry, Like you'll go to there,

1396
01:04:47,320 --> 01:04:48,360
Speaker 1: you go to their Twitter, babe, you.

1397
01:04:48,360 --> 01:04:50,080
Speaker 5: See writer for HBO's.

1398
01:04:51,240 --> 01:04:51,880
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying.

1399
01:04:51,920 --> 01:04:54,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, Like, these are dudes with skinning the game who

1400
01:04:54,200 --> 01:04:55,840
Speaker 1: are saying, yes, I can stand on this because I

1401
01:04:55,880 --> 01:04:58,120
Speaker 1: know it's a fact. So but yeah, that was like

1402
01:04:58,160 --> 01:04:59,880
Speaker 1: the most damning part of it to me because you

1403
01:04:59,880 --> 01:05:01,720
Speaker 1: can and say, you can, you know, do the whole

1404
01:05:01,760 --> 01:05:04,440
Speaker 1: little bullshit. Oh well, you know, there's no concrete evidence

1405
01:05:04,480 --> 01:05:07,040
Speaker 1: whatever the fuck. For one, I think that, you know,

1406
01:05:07,840 --> 01:05:11,120
Speaker 1: people get falsely accused very rarely, very rarely. We have

1407
01:05:11,280 --> 01:05:14,520
Speaker 1: very rarely numbers speak to that, very rarely numbers speak

1408
01:05:14,520 --> 01:05:16,640
Speaker 1: to that, right, and and then and then just for

1409
01:05:16,800 --> 01:05:18,760
Speaker 1: you know, multiple people to come out and say, yeah,

1410
01:05:18,840 --> 01:05:22,320
Speaker 1: that's who he is, it's like, yeah, yeah, okay, yeah

1411
01:05:22,400 --> 01:05:25,600
Speaker 1: it was grand open and grand clothes and yeah yeah.

1412
01:05:25,680 --> 01:05:28,240
Speaker 2: I have friends who have been saying and I know

1413
01:05:28,280 --> 01:05:30,280
Speaker 2: that we're going to get people who responded to saying this.

1414
01:05:30,360 --> 01:05:32,240
Speaker 2: So I think I think it's a good point. I

1415
01:05:32,240 --> 01:05:34,920
Speaker 2: think it's worth driving home. So I'll just ask you guys.

1416
01:05:35,720 --> 01:05:40,000
Speaker 2: You know there's people who will say, oh, you know,

1417
01:05:40,040 --> 01:05:42,320
Speaker 2: because he's a black man, everyone's going to be faster

1418
01:05:42,440 --> 01:05:44,080
Speaker 2: to jump to assuming that he's guilty.

1419
01:05:44,720 --> 01:05:45,120
Speaker 4: Uh.

1420
01:05:45,160 --> 01:05:47,840
Speaker 2: And like I said, I have people retweeting this ship

1421
01:05:47,880 --> 01:05:51,000
Speaker 2: about mel Gibson and you know, whoever else, And we

1422
01:05:51,080 --> 01:05:53,760
Speaker 2: know how biased the criminal justice system is, et cetera,

1423
01:05:53,760 --> 01:05:55,520
Speaker 2: et cetera, etcetera. What I feel like you guys are

1424
01:05:55,520 --> 01:05:57,200
Speaker 2: saying is like, this has nothing to do with any

1425
01:05:57,240 --> 01:05:57,400
Speaker 2: of that.

1426
01:05:57,440 --> 01:05:57,680
Speaker 4: Ship.

1427
01:05:57,800 --> 01:06:00,280
Speaker 2: This is what your eyeballs and brain is telling you

1428
01:06:00,360 --> 01:06:02,880
Speaker 2: about what you're reading. But you know, what's your response

1429
01:06:02,880 --> 01:06:04,680
Speaker 2: to that? People saying like, oh, you're so quick to

1430
01:06:04,720 --> 01:06:08,160
Speaker 2: throw away a promising young black creator or something like that.

1431
01:06:08,400 --> 01:06:10,840
Speaker 3: I agree with that. Go goh, gohead now.

1432
01:06:11,240 --> 01:06:14,120
Speaker 1: I was gonna say, of course, there are discrepancies in

1433
01:06:14,200 --> 01:06:17,520
Speaker 1: regards to that, for sure. I just hate that we

1434
01:06:17,600 --> 01:06:20,600
Speaker 1: fucking bring that shit up when we want black people

1435
01:06:20,640 --> 01:06:24,320
Speaker 1: to get these same fucking leniency for committing atrocities that

1436
01:06:24,440 --> 01:06:26,440
Speaker 1: white people do. That's not the type of equality I

1437
01:06:26,440 --> 01:06:28,400
Speaker 1: want to period. I don't want fuck right, I don't

1438
01:06:28,400 --> 01:06:30,280
Speaker 1: want mother. I don't want to be fucking as evil

1439
01:06:30,280 --> 01:06:32,000
Speaker 1: and as vile as some white guys who got off

1440
01:06:32,000 --> 01:06:34,800
Speaker 1: the hook. That's not my fucking you know, perception of

1441
01:06:34,800 --> 01:06:37,880
Speaker 1: what equality or equity is whatever the fuck so so

1442
01:06:37,960 --> 01:06:40,040
Speaker 1: now and for one, with Jonathan Majors is a very

1443
01:06:40,120 --> 01:06:42,360
Speaker 1: unique situation with him because everyone was saying he was

1444
01:06:42,520 --> 01:06:45,040
Speaker 1: attacking black masculinity during those photo shoots when you know

1445
01:06:45,080 --> 01:06:47,560
Speaker 1: he was wearing like pink feather boas and shit. Right,

1446
01:06:47,560 --> 01:06:50,160
Speaker 1: But now all of a sudden, you know everyone's you know,

1447
01:06:50,920 --> 01:06:54,160
Speaker 1: those same motherfuckers are are fucking you know, averting course

1448
01:06:54,440 --> 01:06:57,800
Speaker 1: he was once the enemy, the main you know, fucking

1449
01:06:57,880 --> 01:07:01,840
Speaker 1: attacker or black masculinity. Now because you know their speculation

1450
01:07:01,880 --> 01:07:03,919
Speaker 1: that he's been violence a woman, now they're all behind him,

1451
01:07:03,960 --> 01:07:06,960
Speaker 1: and so all that shit is bullshit, bro, Like, fuck,

1452
01:07:07,200 --> 01:07:08,360
Speaker 1: I fuck all that noise.

1453
01:07:10,040 --> 01:07:13,480
Speaker 6: I mean, like, like Tyler said, I agree with those statements.

1454
01:07:13,480 --> 01:07:16,640
Speaker 6: You made you feel me, but dog man, I'm gonna

1455
01:07:16,640 --> 01:07:19,760
Speaker 6: call a fuck nigga fuck nigga around here, whether you're white, black, green,

1456
01:07:19,840 --> 01:07:24,280
Speaker 6: or purple nigga, that's a fuck nick, okay, And I

1457
01:07:24,360 --> 01:07:26,560
Speaker 6: can't support that shit period.

1458
01:07:27,880 --> 01:07:28,280
Speaker 4: All right.

1459
01:07:28,320 --> 01:07:30,320
Speaker 2: That's all the time we got for Jenkins and Jones,

1460
01:07:31,120 --> 01:07:34,320
Speaker 2: we did not. Jackson says, the chat's a little quiet tonight,

1461
01:07:34,400 --> 01:07:37,040
Speaker 2: But for everyone listening on AMP or elsewhere going forward,

1462
01:07:37,720 --> 01:07:40,160
Speaker 2: you know, come ask us some ship in the chat.

1463
01:07:40,280 --> 01:07:42,120
Speaker 2: You know we'll answer it. We definitely want to hear

1464
01:07:42,160 --> 01:07:45,360
Speaker 2: from you guys future episodes, So come hang out with

1465
01:07:45,400 --> 01:07:47,800
Speaker 2: us when we're recording live, which we have been and

1466
01:07:47,840 --> 01:07:51,480
Speaker 2: We'll continue to be doing here on the Amazon AMP application.

1467
01:07:51,960 --> 01:07:54,600
Speaker 2: That's all the time we got. We'll be back on Thursday.

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01:07:55,800 --> 01:08:02,240
Speaker 4: Bye bye, Wednesday Day Live Live on Wednesday Live.

1469
01:08:02,120 --> 01:08:04,880
Speaker 3: Baby, when the pot will be driving on Thursday. By

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01:08:05,680 --> 01:08:06,640
Speaker 3: by again.

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Speaker 4: H m hmmm