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Speaker 1: Hi, I'm Kristin Davis, and I want to know are

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Speaker 1: you a Charlotte?

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Speaker 2: Hi?

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Speaker 3: Everybody, welcome to Are You a Charlotte? We are going

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Speaker 3: to do something a little bit different.

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Speaker 4: You know.

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Speaker 3: I've been doing this podcast now for about six months.

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Speaker 3: It's been incredible. I can't believe it's only six months

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Speaker 3: because I feel like we've gone so deep already. We've

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Speaker 3: had such incredible guests. So what we're going to do

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Speaker 3: is recap some of our favorite moments from the last

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Speaker 3: six months and just let you enjoy them. For those

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Speaker 3: of you who've just joined us, this might be some

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Speaker 3: things you haven't heard. And for those of you who've

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Speaker 3: been along for the ride, I hope you enjoy just

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Speaker 3: short little takes of our favorite moments, our favorite guests,

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Speaker 3: and here we go.

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Speaker 5: My story that I told myself and other people about

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Speaker 5: the first season was I didn't even know what the

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Speaker 5: show was to the finale, which is O, come all

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Speaker 5: ye faithful, right, And then when I looked at Bay

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Speaker 5: and Mary Pigs, I was like, I'm not going to

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Speaker 5: say that again.

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Speaker 3: It's so true because you knew the Yes, it's there.

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Speaker 5: The thesis of the entire series, The thesis It's true,

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Speaker 5: clear as a bell, real, which is married people think

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Speaker 5: single people are lepers, right, which is what we built.

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Speaker 3: Definitely, But also then at the end, how she comes

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Speaker 3: back together with us. Think about how many times over

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Speaker 3: the years we have filmed that scene.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I know, it's amazing, amazing. And as far as

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Speaker 5: you saying, oh, I didn't know what I was doing,

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Speaker 5: and I'm me saying, oh I didn't know who Charlotte was,

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Speaker 5: she's pretty clear in that episode.

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Speaker 3: It's true when you think about that, And thank god,

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Speaker 3: because I was, I was like, oh my god, is

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Speaker 3: the whole episode good? The whole first season going to

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Speaker 3: be me flailing? Now I knew that the episode you reverenced,

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Speaker 3: which I hate to even say it still forty years later,

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Speaker 3: thirty years later, Up the Butt obviously is a very

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Speaker 6: As well as like humiliation. You know, well that is

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Speaker 6: the joy.

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Speaker 3: Definitely, Definitely they go together, they go together.

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Speaker 6: Especially for Charlotte.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, and what you grew to embrace as an actor

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Speaker 5: was the absolute joy of being in a moment that

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Speaker 5: could be considered embarrassing totally and just going with it.

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Speaker 6: It's true, It's true.

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Speaker 3: Well, at some point one of you, either Darren or you,

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Speaker 3: I can't remember which, said you know you're going to

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Speaker 3: have to get the pie in the face.

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Speaker 6: Now, I know if you talk.

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Speaker 3: To each of us, each of us really feels like

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Speaker 3: we had to get the pie in the face.

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Speaker 6: And probably that's true.

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Speaker 5: I always say it's going to be a queen pie. Yeah,

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Speaker 5: you know you're gonna get hit.

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Speaker 6: You're gonna get hit.

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Speaker 3: And I mean that was really I remember going like, oh, okay,

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Speaker 6: To embrace that. That is what we're doing.

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Speaker 5: I think the reason this show was tolerable was because

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Speaker 5: the heroes were also the fools, definitely, So every as

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Speaker 5: soon as somebody stood on a soapbox, which Charlotte did

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Speaker 4: Totally. There was this backlash where people were sort of

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Speaker 4: don't remember what season it was, where we had a reporter,

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Speaker 4: and the reporter said, do you think this is a

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Speaker 4: Yeah, yes, we're all feminists.

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Speaker 6: It's a feminist show. What would it be if it

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Speaker 4: Right, because we're wearing lipstick and high heels.

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Speaker 6: Right, it's not a feminist show. What's wrong with you? Absolutely?

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Speaker 1: But I do think that that also reminds me of

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Speaker 4: But you know what, it's really funny for me because,

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Speaker 4: and other people are like eighteen, but they're playing fifteen whatever.

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Speaker 4: And it's about two girls who don't like each other

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Speaker 4: And this was a very popular, successful movie that it's

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Speaker 4: and it was I was like it was deja vue

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Speaker 7: To me, it's like, you know what, back then, you

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Speaker 7: But back then, you know, people had sex a lot.

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Speaker 7: Yes, it was other people. You went out and did stuff,

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Speaker 9: Do you remember shooting that day Because all of the

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Speaker 9: and I remember after we finished shooting, she said, why

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Speaker 3: I had forgotten all this drama in that day. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: Yes? There was like puppies and kiddies and pandas. And

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Speaker 10: I initially got. I was asked about the show by

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Speaker 10: a phone call. I'm certain it wasn't an email, because

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Speaker 10: So he sent me the script with a cover letter,

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Speaker 10: is submitting it. And Ne'll explain you know, this is

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Speaker 10: And so Kevin called me and said, Darren has asked

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Speaker 8: She's unapologetic her, and she wasn't letting these men stop

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Speaker 9: You know, I don't do those kinds of scenes anymore.

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