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Speaker 1: The Around the NFL Podcast knows what a Super Bowl

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Speaker 1: tastes like. Welcome to another edition of the Around the

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Speaker 1: NFL Podcast, presented by the United States Marine Corps. My

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Speaker 1: name is Dan hansis coming to you from the room

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Speaker 1: filled with heroes. Mark Sessler, Chris Westling, Greg Rosenthal. What

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Speaker 1: is up? Boys? Hey Dan, We're here. We are here

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Speaker 1: Week sixteen. It's like we've been planning this week with

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Speaker 1: like the schedule. We have a different schedule taping money.

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Speaker 1: This has been a long time coming. It feels good

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Speaker 1: that we're here. It's been a long week. Um, I

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Speaker 1: think who was at the holiday party last was so crowded.

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Speaker 1: I didn't see the two guys at the end. Were

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Speaker 1: you at the event? I was not. Now I had

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Speaker 1: intentions to go, but today changed my uh my ability

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Speaker 1: to go, and I you know what, I might be

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Speaker 1: this close to starting remember finding Richard Simmons a podcast,

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Speaker 1: Finding Mark Sessler and any of you. I already Honestly,

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Speaker 1: the one reason I thought about us showing up and

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Speaker 1: making appearance and then literally just finding Dan and then

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Speaker 1: ubering home was to prevent this narrative that they have

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Speaker 1: been a total pies like to hang out with you

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Speaker 1: had last year we saw you. I remember Emica and

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Speaker 1: I saw you exiting as we were arriving. Well, you know,

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Speaker 1: I think, well the plus one situation where you bring

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Speaker 1: the significant other. In our case, we had to both

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Speaker 1: get home for babysitters and stuff in old in olden days,

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Speaker 1: I mean meeting like two years ago. I would just

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Speaker 1: stay until the bitter end of the of the you

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Speaker 1: just want to hang out with you, That's that's very possible.

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Speaker 1: I think I think last night would have been the

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Speaker 1: easiest way to accome. We could do that in an

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Speaker 1: hour from now and with no problems. Barely saw West,

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Speaker 1: but I did see you know. You want to talk

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Speaker 1: about the holiday party and coming Where West was at

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Speaker 1: one point in his life where he is now, Ricky.

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Speaker 1: Do we have an image of West at the holiday parts?

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Speaker 1: Impressive because it is look at this guy now, look

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Speaker 1: at where the YouTube viewers and check out YouTube show.

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Speaker 1: We do it live every Thursday. If you guys remember

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Speaker 1: several years back when West started this company, he made

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Speaker 1: a big event out of or a big to do about. Listen,

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Speaker 1: I'm not gonna wear no monkey suit. You're not gonna

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Speaker 1: get I'm not going to the holiday party because they're

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Speaker 1: telling me to wear a sweater or they was like

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Speaker 1: party casual California cans yet and West wouldn't going to

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Speaker 1: the holiday party because of that. And now he's wearing

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Speaker 1: a full suit, a tie and a newsboy cap. Look there,

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Speaker 1: I just wore what I was told to wear. I

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Speaker 1: just love it. I first of all, I wanted you

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Speaker 1: at the party. I couldn't get you at the party.

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Speaker 1: Now you're the most dressed up guy the whole thing.

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Speaker 1: I love it. You love or it was a cancer,

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Speaker 1: it was a love What what changed in your heart

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Speaker 1: in your mind that got you in the newsboy cap? Well,

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Speaker 1: I think you just go. You know, it's better to

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Speaker 1: swim with the tide than to swim against it. So

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Speaker 1: that's what's going on. Well, it was great to see

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Speaker 1: you and like Hesha look beautiful in her twenties Garb

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Speaker 1: It was fun all right. Speaking of holiday, good job

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Speaker 1: on the set here? Where is the holiday decorations here

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Speaker 1: Yea as the producer of the show. How about something

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Speaker 1: some holly sreaths, you know, manure on there if you want,

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Speaker 1: maybe is it in the graphics package? At least you

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Speaker 1: know that they do the little Martlett's got a green

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Speaker 1: the time forgot in this on this competent? Well, I

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Speaker 1: think it's appropriate. The NFL, in many ways, you know,

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Speaker 1: takes you away from your family during the holidays, so

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Speaker 1: why don't think about what you're losing your children's youth.

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Speaker 1: he's right right as my as my children are like

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Speaker 1: You're like, oh, sorry to hear that. I'm sorry you're divorcing. Alright, good,

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Speaker 1: So maybe we don't need anything because of Greg's sadness.

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Speaker 1: and it's amazing. It's amazing that we've we've gotten all

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Speaker 1: there's a little difference obviously in the quirk of the schedule.

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Speaker 1: There will be no Thursday night recap tonight because there's

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Speaker 1: best games of the year, potentially uh in Minneapolis. But

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Speaker 1: the draft process, and um, why don't we get into it? Greg,

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Speaker 1: Look at you, top of the world. Look at you

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Speaker 1: picking first in the Week sixteen draft you in the Bengals.

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Speaker 1: It is appropriate right before Christmas that I'm picking first.

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Speaker 1: I'm going sane Titans early Sunday. It's crazy, but I

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Speaker 1: think this is the biggest game of the week, and

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Speaker 1: at least the best game of the week and the

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Speaker 1: with the most at Steak because the Titans are fighting

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Speaker 1: They're like a big, play, fun team. I think this

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Speaker 1: is the best Titans team since Jeff Fisher was their coach,

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Speaker 1: and their point differential would indicate that. Yet they're probably

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Speaker 1: because the Saints have even more at Steak. Sometimes the

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Speaker 1: super Bowl path isn't made in the playoffs. It's made

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Speaker 1: in games like this week sixteen. I'm thinking of when

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Speaker 1: time they didn't get anything done. But the Titans to me,

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Speaker 1: I don't want them to go away. Previous nine and

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Speaker 1: But it's like more teams when you are stuck with

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Speaker 1: that it's Ryan Tannehill was equally dull in Miami, has

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Speaker 1: But I think the Saints rolling all the way to

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Speaker 1: I love what I'm seeing Monday night was awesome in

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Speaker 1: the momentum is just going to carry on. Lock it

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, listen to that mascular lock. That's a man

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Speaker 1: locking a path. Your cowardly luck has worked out perfect

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Speaker 1: for me personally. I loved your lock last week because

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Speaker 1: it showed that the mirror test was always a sham

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Speaker 1: and people will use it for their own personal interests

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Speaker 1: Why sure, I don't all but you, you you, you sir

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Speaker 1: of the sham, because we've always talked about you and

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Speaker 1: I are in lockstep on the mirror tests, which is

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Speaker 1: it has to be within a touchdown on the vegas test,

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Speaker 1: and it was, so why are you on my because

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Speaker 1: I just knew that the way it didn't really you.

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Speaker 1: defense more though, so I don't think it's equal. The

429
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Speaker 1: Patriots offense does one thing well, and that's prevent turnovers.

430
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Speaker 1: I mean, they're plus twenty four. That's doubled any other

431
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Speaker 1: team in the league. It's it's just outrageous. It's really

432
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Speaker 1: their OH one here. They only think they do well

433
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Speaker 1: is prevent something. Yeah, they just don't make mistakes. It's

434
00:21:27,080 --> 00:21:29,280
Speaker 1: very similar to OH one. It's like Tom Brady. That

435
00:21:29,359 --> 00:21:32,560
Speaker 1: offense was terrible. It's the worst offense very likely that

436
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Speaker 1: ever won a Super Bowl. The Ravens in two thousand,

437
00:21:34,800 --> 00:21:36,600
Speaker 1: just a year before might might be right there. But

438
00:21:36,640 --> 00:21:39,040
Speaker 1: what they didn't do was like they just punted a lot.

439
00:21:39,200 --> 00:21:41,720
Speaker 1: They didn't have turnovers, and that's that's what they're doing.

440
00:21:41,760 --> 00:21:44,760
Speaker 1: Like they need special teams and defense. It's it's ugly.

441
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Speaker 1: Get most a new going. That's this is still kind

442
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Speaker 1: of surreal to talk about. But you could make the

443
00:21:50,200 --> 00:21:53,879
Speaker 1: arguments since about mid season, since Week nine, Tom Brady

444
00:21:53,960 --> 00:21:55,679
Speaker 1: is the worst quarterback in football. Now, I don't think

445
00:21:55,720 --> 00:21:59,679
Speaker 1: you could make I'm just statistically you could. Uh. He

446
00:21:59,720 --> 00:22:02,000
Speaker 1: has the worst completion percentage in the league. He has

447
00:22:02,040 --> 00:22:04,080
Speaker 1: the worst yards for attempt, which is a stat we

448
00:22:04,280 --> 00:22:08,119
Speaker 1: are we track around these parts. He has the worst

449
00:22:08,160 --> 00:22:12,240
Speaker 1: passer rating. He is struggling on his quick routes, which

450
00:22:12,280 --> 00:22:15,240
Speaker 1: is something that has always been a strength of his.

451
00:22:15,400 --> 00:22:18,639
Speaker 1: He's holding the ball longer since Week nine than his

452
00:22:18,760 --> 00:22:22,280
Speaker 1: first eight games, and defenses are not fooled by what

453
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Speaker 1: the Patriots are doing. It's you could say, okay, but

454
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Speaker 1: he's such a great game manager. He's Tom Brady. Yes,

455
00:22:27,200 --> 00:22:31,080
Speaker 1: their worst quarterbacks, but this is not a blip on

456
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Speaker 1: the radar anymore. This could be the beginning of the

457
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Speaker 1: end in a very real, not joking around gradual decline way.

458
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Speaker 1: And if that's the case, they're done right. They're not.

459
00:22:41,200 --> 00:22:43,320
Speaker 1: This is not a super Bowl team. We're doing this again.

460
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Speaker 1: We're doing it but this time. No, no, I get it.

461
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Speaker 1: I mean I just said that they need to make

462
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Speaker 1: the super If they had any route, it's the OH

463
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Speaker 1: one route, which is all defense specialty. You don't need,

464
00:22:53,520 --> 00:22:55,920
Speaker 1: you don't need to. It's almost it's very very difficult.

465
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Speaker 1: You need a lot of luck and a lot of

466
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Speaker 1: other things to go your way. I if you look

467
00:23:00,320 --> 00:23:05,040
Speaker 1: at the PF grades, he's closer to below average more

468
00:23:05,119 --> 00:23:06,960
Speaker 1: like you know, over the last five or six weeks.

469
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Speaker 1: He started out the season I thought playing very well.

470
00:23:09,320 --> 00:23:11,199
Speaker 1: Last week I thought was his very worst game of

471
00:23:11,200 --> 00:23:14,280
Speaker 1: the season was against the Bengals. He's missing open throws.

472
00:23:14,400 --> 00:23:17,760
Speaker 1: Edelman is hurt, like very hurt, and I wish they

473
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Speaker 1: didn't play him in that game because he was out there,

474
00:23:20,200 --> 00:23:22,800
Speaker 1: you know, just dragging his leg around, and then they

475
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Speaker 1: tried to build the offense around to new Nikkil Harry's

476
00:23:25,480 --> 00:23:27,719
Speaker 1: getting more so if you don't have Edelman and the

477
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Speaker 1: line struggling in in Brady is also struggling. You're right,

478
00:23:31,440 --> 00:23:32,919
Speaker 1: it's a it's a lot of things. And if I

479
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Speaker 1: was a Bills fan, I would be I would be

480
00:23:35,080 --> 00:23:37,520
Speaker 1: feeling good about this matchup. I'm shocked that the Patriots

481
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Speaker 1: are as favored as they are. I would also go

482
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Speaker 1: back to that Ravens game, and it was a terrible

483
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Speaker 1: start for Buffalo, but in the second half, I give

484
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Speaker 1: the Bills credit for resiliently fighting back and doing what

485
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Speaker 1: they could and making that more of a game than

486
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Speaker 1: it was. And then to turn around and go do

487
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Speaker 1: what they did to Pittsburgh. They're playing a little bit

488
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Speaker 1: better than the Patriots. I would still give New England

489
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Speaker 1: a slight edge in this game because they're home and everything,

490
00:24:00,800 --> 00:24:02,640
Speaker 1: and it just wouldn't surprise me if they if they

491
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Speaker 1: come together and plays a game that's where the Desert

492
00:24:06,240 --> 00:24:09,040
Speaker 1: is probably coming from desert as as a heavy favorite

493
00:24:09,040 --> 00:24:12,200
Speaker 1: that Foxborough in December when the Chips are down love

494
00:24:12,560 --> 00:24:15,440
Speaker 1: the Desert. It barely passes the test of even being

495
00:24:15,480 --> 00:24:20,880
Speaker 1: able to game, which is very, uh big question and

496
00:24:21,000 --> 00:24:23,200
Speaker 1: I'm not this is not me twisting the knife. It's

497
00:24:23,359 --> 00:24:26,320
Speaker 1: not real questions. Is Tom Brady the quarterback of the

498
00:24:26,320 --> 00:24:29,679
Speaker 1: Patriots in Week one next year? I think so, Yeah,

499
00:24:30,359 --> 00:24:32,840
Speaker 1: I think, and already told you he's going to be

500
00:24:32,880 --> 00:24:34,639
Speaker 1: on the Dolphins, you know what I know. But I

501
00:24:37,160 --> 00:24:41,239
Speaker 1: have perspective that, yeah, their offense is bad, but to me,

502
00:24:41,320 --> 00:24:43,600
Speaker 1: there's still kind of a fun team that they're eleven

503
00:24:43,640 --> 00:24:46,440
Speaker 1: and three and have a chance. But there's nothing fun

504
00:24:46,480 --> 00:24:49,800
Speaker 1: about this. Yeah, they're different, like you've seen a lot

505
00:24:49,840 --> 00:24:52,280
Speaker 1: of different Patriots. Seems yes, like there's not as much

506
00:24:52,280 --> 00:24:54,239
Speaker 1: at stake when when they've won as much as they have,

507
00:24:54,320 --> 00:24:56,960
Speaker 1: But it's just it's different and they're still in the mix.

508
00:24:56,960 --> 00:24:59,080
Speaker 1: They're playing big games. Like you said, well, at least

509
00:24:59,119 --> 00:25:01,320
Speaker 1: the Bears fans game them that one game that mattered

510
00:25:01,320 --> 00:25:04,000
Speaker 1: in Week fifteen. As a Patriots fans, like this game matters,

511
00:25:04,040 --> 00:25:06,040
Speaker 1: I'm looking forward to. I'm looking forward to whatever the

512
00:25:06,080 --> 00:25:08,960
Speaker 1: page like the playoff games are at this point. Yeah,

513
00:25:09,000 --> 00:25:12,800
Speaker 1: they're they're certainly not going to be uh the favorites, Erica,

514
00:25:13,040 --> 00:25:16,960
Speaker 1: what's it like senior heroes get old? I mean, you

515
00:25:16,960 --> 00:25:18,879
Speaker 1: guys are getting older every day. You know who's my

516
00:25:18,920 --> 00:25:22,680
Speaker 1: hero is? Erica Tampos coming in during this Bill's pats

517
00:25:22,840 --> 00:25:26,960
Speaker 1: uh game and switching out because it was all messed

518
00:25:27,040 --> 00:25:31,320
Speaker 1: up the tech. All Right, I'm gonna take a Saturday

519
00:25:31,359 --> 00:25:33,439
Speaker 1: game too, and I'm gonna go. You know, I like

520
00:25:33,520 --> 00:25:36,119
Speaker 1: to organize my my Saturday, which essentially is a day

521
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Speaker 1: off bike taking the earliest Saturday game, which I'll plug in,

522
00:25:39,720 --> 00:25:41,960
Speaker 1: I'll take my notes, and then I'll shift into more

523
00:25:42,040 --> 00:25:44,800
Speaker 1: leisurely mode with the latter two games. So I'm going

524
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Speaker 1: Texans at Tampa Bay. And you know what, this game

525
00:25:47,520 --> 00:25:50,840
Speaker 1: is interesting. I feel like with the Texans, they intrigue

526
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Speaker 1: me week to week because they flip flop between good Texans,

527
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Speaker 1: bad Texans and I and I'm wondering this feels a

528
00:25:56,680 --> 00:25:59,320
Speaker 1: little trap Gamish because I know that for Tampa Bay,

529
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Speaker 1: you don't have your top two. You don't know Mike Evans,

530
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Speaker 1: you don't have Chris Godwin. That's a concern for Jamis Winston. Uh.

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Speaker 1: But they're at home, which also to me because there's

532
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Speaker 1: just because there's a big pirate ship in the distance,

533
00:26:12,200 --> 00:26:14,280
Speaker 1: I'm not sure that's what i'd call a massive home

534
00:26:14,320 --> 00:26:16,960
Speaker 1: field advantage. But the Texans often go on the road.

535
00:26:17,119 --> 00:26:20,560
Speaker 1: There's actually a battleship protecting the home table, but it's

536
00:26:20,640 --> 00:26:25,560
Speaker 1: deployed sideways, and it's it's it can't maneuver. Actually exactly,

537
00:26:26,280 --> 00:26:28,200
Speaker 1: we're at home in five and three on the road.

538
00:26:28,280 --> 00:26:30,359
Speaker 1: I'm saying, if you get a boat in water and

539
00:26:30,400 --> 00:26:32,359
Speaker 1: have the cannons be you know, applicable, and we can

540
00:26:32,400 --> 00:26:35,160
Speaker 1: talk differently. And I mean Bruce arians has basically said

541
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Speaker 1: we're gonna have to come out and make our running

542
00:26:38,600 --> 00:26:41,399
Speaker 1: backs are past catching weapons in this and I'm not

543
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Speaker 1: sure I really trust that committee backfield to do exactly

544
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Speaker 1: with the James White Act. Necessarily, we'll see, but it's

545
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Speaker 1: it's gonna be a limited offense. That was one of

546
00:26:51,119 --> 00:26:53,680
Speaker 1: the most fun to watch explosive offenses of the past

547
00:26:54,000 --> 00:26:56,040
Speaker 1: few weeks. O. J. Howard's heated up. I think they

548
00:26:56,080 --> 00:26:57,719
Speaker 1: finally figure out how to use him a little bit,

549
00:26:58,960 --> 00:27:00,800
Speaker 1: but no one else. And that's like and and for

550
00:27:00,840 --> 00:27:02,879
Speaker 1: the Texans, it's interesting. It's like, I never would have

551
00:27:02,920 --> 00:27:04,840
Speaker 1: predicted this is something. This is one thing that I

552
00:27:04,880 --> 00:27:08,040
Speaker 1: would have uh, you know, if I had expensive possessions

553
00:27:08,080 --> 00:27:10,359
Speaker 1: in my ownership, I would have willingly bet against this

554
00:27:10,440 --> 00:27:12,600
Speaker 1: that Carlos Hyde would have had a thousand yards season

555
00:27:12,640 --> 00:27:14,520
Speaker 1: this year. I just did not see that coming. They

556
00:27:14,560 --> 00:27:16,600
Speaker 1: found a way to get just enough out of him.

557
00:27:16,680 --> 00:27:19,320
Speaker 1: And I just looked at what DeAndre Hopkins did last

558
00:27:19,359 --> 00:27:21,720
Speaker 1: week in that fourth quarter, you know, when he was

559
00:27:21,760 --> 00:27:23,960
Speaker 1: held down from much of that game, and we talked

560
00:27:24,000 --> 00:27:27,199
Speaker 1: about our our wide receivers of the decade, and to me,

561
00:27:27,280 --> 00:27:29,440
Speaker 1: he's just one of those guys because it doesn't matter

562
00:27:29,480 --> 00:27:32,119
Speaker 1: what the situation is or what the quarterback is, he

563
00:27:32,160 --> 00:27:34,879
Speaker 1: finds a way to get it done. I do believe

564
00:27:34,880 --> 00:27:37,160
Speaker 1: the Texans are going to win this. And if I'm

565
00:27:37,200 --> 00:27:39,359
Speaker 1: allowed to lock this, I would like to lock this

566
00:27:39,359 --> 00:27:41,719
Speaker 1: game up all the time. I'm joining you on this.

567
00:27:41,880 --> 00:27:44,159
Speaker 1: Let's do it. And that's worked out once for us

568
00:27:44,200 --> 00:27:46,879
Speaker 1: in the past. The other time they're locking up the

569
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Speaker 1: Texans on the road. I like how the Bucks have played.

570
00:27:49,880 --> 00:27:53,800
Speaker 1: I don't trust I don't trust Jameis Winston. Without Godwin

571
00:27:53,920 --> 00:27:56,840
Speaker 1: and Evans, it's a lot um. I think this offense

572
00:27:57,240 --> 00:28:02,119
Speaker 1: against jamis in December out. I mean, they've won what

573
00:28:02,240 --> 00:28:04,800
Speaker 1: fourth straight here they Their offense to me is so

574
00:28:04,840 --> 00:28:08,280
Speaker 1: good that they will be able to move the ball. Anyways,

575
00:28:08,760 --> 00:28:11,120
Speaker 1: justin Watson's name to watch. I think if you were

576
00:28:11,760 --> 00:28:15,840
Speaker 1: into fantasy or dfs uh shout out to Adam Leviton

577
00:28:15,920 --> 00:28:18,680
Speaker 1: team preseason. He was out there in the preseason justin Watson,

578
00:28:18,680 --> 00:28:20,159
Speaker 1: and I kind of liked what I saw. And I

579
00:28:20,200 --> 00:28:22,520
Speaker 1: know win Winston likes them a little bit. And you

580
00:28:22,560 --> 00:28:26,480
Speaker 1: have Howard and you still have Brashade Periman. They're gonna

581
00:28:26,520 --> 00:28:29,200
Speaker 1: need their defense to play well, and it has over

582
00:28:29,240 --> 00:28:31,240
Speaker 1: the last four weeks. Football Outsiders says them as a

583
00:28:31,359 --> 00:28:35,000
Speaker 1: number two defense in the league over the last four weeks.

584
00:28:35,520 --> 00:28:37,760
Speaker 1: And it's a big test for the Texans, who have

585
00:28:37,800 --> 00:28:39,800
Speaker 1: had great pass protection this year. I mean, that is

586
00:28:39,800 --> 00:28:42,480
Speaker 1: a narrative that died and no one said anything about.

587
00:28:42,520 --> 00:28:45,280
Speaker 1: It's like, well, imagine if Deshaun Watson ever had great

588
00:28:45,280 --> 00:28:47,440
Speaker 1: pass protection, Well, this is it. Their their third in

589
00:28:47,440 --> 00:28:50,880
Speaker 1: the league and pass block grades by PFF. But this

590
00:28:50,960 --> 00:28:53,320
Speaker 1: is a tough matchup for them against a Bucks front

591
00:28:53,320 --> 00:28:55,560
Speaker 1: that's really been getting after. Where are we at right

592
00:28:55,560 --> 00:28:58,680
Speaker 1: now with Shack the Shack attack sixteen and a half,

593
00:28:58,680 --> 00:29:01,200
Speaker 1: sex tied with Warren Stuff for the all time record

594
00:29:01,600 --> 00:29:04,360
Speaker 1: and you know he's in spedding distance now of the

595
00:29:04,400 --> 00:29:08,880
Speaker 1: great flawed Michael Strahan record. Give that Sack record back

596
00:29:08,920 --> 00:29:12,200
Speaker 1: its dignity mark. Pretty good season. I mean, I'm gonna

597
00:29:12,240 --> 00:29:14,239
Speaker 1: have to say that I'm impressed with what with with

598
00:29:14,280 --> 00:29:17,400
Speaker 1: what he's done on a week to week basis. Um.

599
00:29:17,520 --> 00:29:19,800
Speaker 1: You made the point mark which I initially I agree

600
00:29:19,840 --> 00:29:23,040
Speaker 1: with you, that that the Texans feel inconsistent, but to

601
00:29:23,080 --> 00:29:25,560
Speaker 1: put them in like the Cowboys territory, which is not

602
00:29:25,600 --> 00:29:28,120
Speaker 1: what you did, But they're not. They've actually won five

603
00:29:28,160 --> 00:29:30,959
Speaker 1: of seven. They got killed by the Ravens uh at

604
00:29:30,960 --> 00:29:32,840
Speaker 1: a time when everyone was getting killed by the Ravens,

605
00:29:33,000 --> 00:29:35,480
Speaker 1: and then they legitimately stubbed their toe and had that

606
00:29:35,880 --> 00:29:38,560
Speaker 1: awful game against Drew Lock of the Broncos. But they've

607
00:29:38,560 --> 00:29:42,479
Speaker 1: been winning games, um more or less since the midway

608
00:29:42,480 --> 00:29:44,400
Speaker 1: point of the season. Might say this, if they lost this,

609
00:29:44,520 --> 00:29:48,200
Speaker 1: that theory is back on their defense. I think this

610
00:29:48,280 --> 00:29:51,000
Speaker 1: room doesn't trust. So if if they had Evans and

611
00:29:51,040 --> 00:29:55,400
Speaker 1: God when man this would be, I would would dangerous game.

612
00:29:55,560 --> 00:29:58,000
Speaker 1: But Sexan's wide receivers are healthy, and when they've got

613
00:29:58,040 --> 00:30:00,400
Speaker 1: all three of those guys healthy, I don't know if

614
00:30:00,440 --> 00:30:02,440
Speaker 1: there's a secondary in the league that's there. They're a

615
00:30:02,440 --> 00:30:06,760
Speaker 1: great offense, they're legitimately top six seven offense when when

616
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Speaker 1: those guys are healthy. Here's what Bill O'Brien said about J. J.

617
00:30:09,400 --> 00:30:12,760
Speaker 1: Watt speaking of the defense on Monday. He's certainly made

618
00:30:12,760 --> 00:30:16,480
Speaker 1: progress based on his work ethic, referring to his uh

619
00:30:16,560 --> 00:30:20,120
Speaker 1: torn peck that put him on injured reserve. UM, who

620
00:30:20,160 --> 00:30:22,400
Speaker 1: he's working with in the training room, we will see.

621
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Speaker 1: So he's not committal on it, but it's lingering out

622
00:30:24,920 --> 00:30:27,880
Speaker 1: there as a possibility that Watt returns. In one last point,

623
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Speaker 1: I reached out to the great NFL media research team

624
00:30:32,600 --> 00:30:38,600
Speaker 1: led by Jeff Greenholtz and Um and I met Mackenzie

625
00:30:38,680 --> 00:30:41,680
Speaker 1: at the holiday party, who was a wonderful woman and

626
00:30:42,000 --> 00:30:46,280
Speaker 1: she's been a great help all season. But Jamis Winston,

627
00:30:46,760 --> 00:30:50,920
Speaker 1: he's sitting at thirty touchdowns twenty four interceptions. If he

628
00:30:50,960 --> 00:30:54,400
Speaker 1: can just throw six more picks in the last two weeks, beautiful,

629
00:30:54,920 --> 00:30:58,560
Speaker 1: he would become the first member of the thirty thirty

630
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Speaker 1: club thirty interceptions, thirty touchdowns. Well, the key is he's

631
00:31:02,840 --> 00:31:06,600
Speaker 1: got it's possible with these alone for many more decades

632
00:31:06,640 --> 00:31:08,480
Speaker 1: to come to. The key is he's got to throw

633
00:31:08,480 --> 00:31:10,560
Speaker 1: an interception on the first drive. That has been the

634
00:31:10,640 --> 00:31:14,880
Speaker 1: key too. I think for Bucks victories as if Jamis

635
00:31:14,880 --> 00:31:17,360
Speaker 1: throws that's like seeing the groundhog come out. As long

636
00:31:17,360 --> 00:31:20,280
Speaker 1: as he throws an interception nice and early, the Buccaneers

637
00:31:20,360 --> 00:31:24,440
Speaker 1: usually win. All right, let us move on. It is

638
00:31:24,520 --> 00:31:35,600
Speaker 1: time for the snake. Very tempted by the way to

639
00:31:35,760 --> 00:31:38,640
Speaker 1: just take the late Saturday game now and essentially have

640
00:31:38,960 --> 00:31:40,600
Speaker 1: you know, I'll just sit there on Sunday with my

641
00:31:40,920 --> 00:31:42,520
Speaker 1: feet up on the table, go to the huddle a

642
00:31:42,520 --> 00:31:45,440
Speaker 1: couple of times, maybe go home, visit the children, and

643
00:31:45,560 --> 00:31:47,080
Speaker 1: roll back for the show. But I'm not gonna do

644
00:31:47,120 --> 00:31:49,040
Speaker 1: that because I I think I have stuff I have

645
00:31:49,040 --> 00:31:51,000
Speaker 1: to do. Him all night is gonna be listening to

646
00:31:51,680 --> 00:31:54,040
Speaker 1: That's true, I and and I'm a workhorse. If they've

647
00:31:54,440 --> 00:31:57,920
Speaker 1: questioned that, so I'm gonna take I'm going to indulge

648
00:31:58,000 --> 00:32:01,080
Speaker 1: in just darkness and take balt More at Cleveland because

649
00:32:01,520 --> 00:32:04,400
Speaker 1: you know I have been reading this consistently, reading this

650
00:32:04,520 --> 00:32:07,280
Speaker 1: horror film, horror novel. I guess you would call it

651
00:32:07,360 --> 00:32:11,080
Speaker 1: chapter by chapter, not skipping words, being there for every

652
00:32:11,120 --> 00:32:14,160
Speaker 1: plot development. And why jump on the book now when

653
00:32:14,280 --> 00:32:17,040
Speaker 1: you know the high point of Cleveland season came in

654
00:32:17,120 --> 00:32:20,840
Speaker 1: week four when they started to show what they could be,

655
00:32:21,000 --> 00:32:22,960
Speaker 1: and it was it was a rash of big plays.

656
00:32:23,000 --> 00:32:25,320
Speaker 1: It was Nick Chop on the ground and utterly destroying

657
00:32:25,320 --> 00:32:27,920
Speaker 1: the Ravens, I mean putting it on them score wise.

658
00:32:28,440 --> 00:32:31,400
Speaker 1: And in that game. I went back and watched a

659
00:32:31,440 --> 00:32:33,320
Speaker 1: little bit of that game, and what I thought was

660
00:32:33,360 --> 00:32:36,520
Speaker 1: the turning point, and it was very and very unusual

661
00:32:36,600 --> 00:32:39,320
Speaker 1: for the Ravens was a mark Ingram fumble that flipped

662
00:32:39,320 --> 00:32:42,440
Speaker 1: the game entirely and allowed Cleveland to really essentially build

663
00:32:42,440 --> 00:32:44,440
Speaker 1: a lead that was not going to go away and

664
00:32:44,560 --> 00:32:47,160
Speaker 1: mark Ingram and the Ravens simply don't do that since

665
00:32:47,520 --> 00:32:50,120
Speaker 1: and since that time where they shut Lamar Jackson and

666
00:32:50,120 --> 00:32:52,200
Speaker 1: made life tough on him and try to and they

667
00:32:52,200 --> 00:32:55,560
Speaker 1: were successfully able to put Lamar Jackson into a situation

668
00:32:55,600 --> 00:32:58,880
Speaker 1: where he had to throw the ball and that did

669
00:32:58,880 --> 00:33:01,080
Speaker 1: not work in that game. That team is completely That

670
00:33:01,200 --> 00:33:04,880
Speaker 1: Ravens team is completely and drastically different than the team

671
00:33:04,880 --> 00:33:06,320
Speaker 1: they are right now. And I look back and I

672
00:33:06,320 --> 00:33:08,000
Speaker 1: knows the Jets, but the Jets do have a good

673
00:33:08,080 --> 00:33:10,840
Speaker 1: run defense, and the Ravens it's almost like it doesn't

674
00:33:10,880 --> 00:33:13,560
Speaker 1: matter what the matchup is because they had nine nine

675
00:33:13,600 --> 00:33:15,880
Speaker 1: yards on the ground twelve minutes into that game against

676
00:33:15,920 --> 00:33:17,760
Speaker 1: the Jets. And the Jets not have a Jamal Adams,

677
00:33:17,800 --> 00:33:19,400
Speaker 1: and I hear you, but they're doing a week after

678
00:33:19,480 --> 00:33:22,200
Speaker 1: week And at one point Lamar Jackson had sixty nine

679
00:33:22,240 --> 00:33:25,040
Speaker 1: yards through the air midway through the third period, and

680
00:33:25,080 --> 00:33:29,320
Speaker 1: then suddenly Arsenals arrived and he just started finding Hollywood

681
00:33:29,320 --> 00:33:31,880
Speaker 1: Brown and Mark Andrews and the rest and the big

682
00:33:31,920 --> 00:33:34,960
Speaker 1: plays just happened. You cannot contain them for four quarters.

683
00:33:35,320 --> 00:33:37,239
Speaker 1: And I think Cleveland and we get it. We know

684
00:33:37,320 --> 00:33:41,360
Speaker 1: about the stuff we talked about on twos with and that.

685
00:33:41,480 --> 00:33:46,600
Speaker 1: And Jervis Landry has strongly denied the report by NFL

686
00:33:46,640 --> 00:33:49,160
Speaker 1: Networks Mike Silver that he's billing that to the Cardinals. Well,

687
00:33:49,160 --> 00:33:50,760
Speaker 1: that's right. That just leaves you up to what you

688
00:33:50,800 --> 00:33:53,680
Speaker 1: think about that player and this team in general. Um

689
00:33:53,680 --> 00:33:56,280
Speaker 1: O p J has denied all that stuff too. Again.

690
00:33:56,400 --> 00:33:58,480
Speaker 1: He says he's gonna be there next year. He says

691
00:33:58,480 --> 00:34:00,440
Speaker 1: he's gonna be there. But all that's for the offseason

692
00:34:00,600 --> 00:34:03,120
Speaker 1: could not come quick enough for this Browns team. I

693
00:34:03,440 --> 00:34:07,080
Speaker 1: think that they were mentally broken weeks ago, but it

694
00:34:07,120 --> 00:34:09,960
Speaker 1: truly appeared on the field last week. Is Kyler Murray

695
00:34:09,960 --> 00:34:14,520
Speaker 1: and the Cardinals incinerated Cleveland's defense, which has been relatively

696
00:34:14,600 --> 00:34:17,399
Speaker 1: solid game to game and not just not the case.

697
00:34:17,520 --> 00:34:19,600
Speaker 1: I don't see I saw a defense that gave up

698
00:34:19,600 --> 00:34:21,719
Speaker 1: in that game. You can run on them at will,

699
00:34:21,960 --> 00:34:24,600
Speaker 1: and the Ravens will have an absolute field day. It's

700
00:34:24,600 --> 00:34:28,000
Speaker 1: in Cleveland, that's gonna be thorny. But I don't see anything.

701
00:34:28,360 --> 00:34:31,120
Speaker 1: This is not This is not a big stumbling block

702
00:34:31,160 --> 00:34:34,040
Speaker 1: for the Ravens. They roll Wes. The Ravens first of all,

703
00:34:34,040 --> 00:34:36,600
Speaker 1: clinched the number one seed with a win. But my

704
00:34:36,719 --> 00:34:39,160
Speaker 1: question you what do you need to see if anything

705
00:34:39,880 --> 00:34:41,920
Speaker 1: from the Ravens between now and the end of the

706
00:34:41,960 --> 00:34:46,279
Speaker 1: regular season, that anything, anything on your radar weakness of

707
00:34:46,320 --> 00:34:48,239
Speaker 1: this team, something you'd like to see shoring up if

708
00:34:48,280 --> 00:34:51,600
Speaker 1: you're if you're John Arball, No, no, I don't see.

709
00:34:51,719 --> 00:34:53,920
Speaker 1: I don't see a weakness for them. I would maybe

710
00:34:53,920 --> 00:34:56,040
Speaker 1: like to see Hayden Hurst, who was drafted ahead of

711
00:34:56,120 --> 00:34:59,560
Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson, become as good as Mark Andrews and become

712
00:34:59,600 --> 00:35:02,640
Speaker 1: that like second more two tight end sets and they

713
00:35:02,680 --> 00:35:05,719
Speaker 1: get they have those two weapons. Maybe Hollywood Brown is

714
00:35:06,120 --> 00:35:08,160
Speaker 1: playing like he did earlier in the year instead of

715
00:35:08,480 --> 00:35:10,160
Speaker 1: like going in the tank like he did the last

716
00:35:10,200 --> 00:35:13,719
Speaker 1: few weeks. But there's nothing about the Ravens that that

717
00:35:13,800 --> 00:35:16,520
Speaker 1: really were. But they're so it's just stay healthy. They're

718
00:35:16,520 --> 00:35:19,319
Speaker 1: so healthy. Their entire team isn't wasn't even on the

719
00:35:19,360 --> 00:35:21,560
Speaker 1: injury report. I think Brandon Williams was the only guy

720
00:35:21,840 --> 00:35:24,440
Speaker 1: and he's even practicing. So not only are they the

721
00:35:24,480 --> 00:35:27,799
Speaker 1: best team in the league, there among the healthiest, they

722
00:35:27,800 --> 00:35:30,720
Speaker 1: have a ton to play for. You clinch home field,

723
00:35:30,880 --> 00:35:33,279
Speaker 1: you make up for your one bad loss of the year,

724
00:35:33,640 --> 00:35:36,600
Speaker 1: and you finish off Lamar's MVP case. Because Mike Garrett

725
00:35:36,600 --> 00:35:38,960
Speaker 1: Folo already said on our network he does not expect

726
00:35:39,040 --> 00:35:42,000
Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson to play in Week seventeen, I don't think

727
00:35:42,000 --> 00:35:44,399
Speaker 1: that necessarily means the rest of the starters will sit

728
00:35:44,800 --> 00:35:46,920
Speaker 1: a It's hard to do that be I think they

729
00:35:46,960 --> 00:35:50,080
Speaker 1: might just you know, roll out r G three with

730
00:35:50,120 --> 00:35:52,799
Speaker 1: a bunch of other starters. I'm looking more. I'm more

731
00:35:52,840 --> 00:35:54,720
Speaker 1: curious in this game of Baker Mayfield and the Browns.

732
00:35:54,760 --> 00:35:56,200
Speaker 1: And I know we've all given up on them, but

733
00:35:56,239 --> 00:35:59,759
Speaker 1: the way the Ravens have transformed the most is defensively

734
00:36:00,040 --> 00:36:02,960
Speaker 1: since week four, and they just blitz you like crazy.

735
00:36:03,200 --> 00:36:07,560
Speaker 1: And Baker's just hasn't responded well to when he's seeing

736
00:36:07,600 --> 00:36:10,560
Speaker 1: a lot of different looks and this this really taxes

737
00:36:10,600 --> 00:36:13,480
Speaker 1: you as a quarterback playing the Ravens. What disappoints me

738
00:36:13,560 --> 00:36:15,359
Speaker 1: most about the Browns is on a team with Nick

739
00:36:15,440 --> 00:36:18,600
Speaker 1: Chubb and Jarvis Landry, they lack toughness. And if you

740
00:36:18,640 --> 00:36:21,279
Speaker 1: can't stop Kenyan Drake in short yardage, you have no

741
00:36:21,320 --> 00:36:24,279
Speaker 1: prayer against Lament. Yeah, they're very single. The Cardinals are

742
00:36:24,280 --> 00:36:26,280
Speaker 1: like Ravens light. I mean, they're kind of the second

743
00:36:26,280 --> 00:36:29,160
Speaker 1: most creative running games. So if you can't slow down

744
00:36:29,200 --> 00:36:31,880
Speaker 1: the Cardinals, good luck. All right, let's move on. It

745
00:36:32,040 --> 00:36:34,560
Speaker 1: is my pick and I will stick in the Saturdays

746
00:36:34,560 --> 00:36:38,000
Speaker 1: on Sundays. Sunday's not looking too hot to be honestly

747
00:36:38,080 --> 00:36:42,400
Speaker 1: from a matchup perspective, but Rams at Niners the prime

748
00:36:42,440 --> 00:36:45,120
Speaker 1: time taking two Saturday games. Look at that, so you

749
00:36:45,120 --> 00:36:48,680
Speaker 1: are doing what Mark did, so I planned to grind

750
00:36:48,719 --> 00:36:50,759
Speaker 1: on Sunday as well, but I just want to pick

751
00:36:50,800 --> 00:36:52,719
Speaker 1: the best games in the draft, to be true to

752
00:36:52,760 --> 00:36:55,360
Speaker 1: the draft and talk about a good game which is

753
00:36:55,840 --> 00:36:58,000
Speaker 1: way better than any of the other Sunday games remaining.

754
00:36:58,080 --> 00:37:00,600
Speaker 1: To be quite honest, there's some trash remaining. Um so

755
00:37:00,719 --> 00:37:05,000
Speaker 1: let's talk about Rams at Niners and uh, yeah, you know,

756
00:37:05,920 --> 00:37:08,440
Speaker 1: do I want to kill the Niners for losing that

757
00:37:08,480 --> 00:37:10,399
Speaker 1: game of the Falcons? Nah? I mean they've lost two

758
00:37:10,400 --> 00:37:13,319
Speaker 1: of three. The Ravens loss, you know, that was that

759
00:37:13,400 --> 00:37:17,400
Speaker 1: was painful, justin Tucker at the gun. Uh. The Falcons

760
00:37:17,440 --> 00:37:19,960
Speaker 1: loss as bad as it was, and it was how

761
00:37:20,000 --> 00:37:23,719
Speaker 1: it ended with the Julio Jones touchdown is rough, but

762
00:37:23,760 --> 00:37:25,359
Speaker 1: it didn't hurt them all that much. It just kind

763
00:37:25,360 --> 00:37:28,120
Speaker 1: of more took away their room margin for error. If

764
00:37:28,160 --> 00:37:30,880
Speaker 1: they beat the Rams and then they go to Seattle

765
00:37:30,920 --> 00:37:33,440
Speaker 1: and that huge Week seventeen showdown, which I would think

766
00:37:33,520 --> 00:37:35,720
Speaker 1: is going to be in front of Al Chris and Michelle.

767
00:37:36,640 --> 00:37:40,400
Speaker 1: Hopefully they're the number one seed uh in the NFC,

768
00:37:40,760 --> 00:37:43,000
Speaker 1: so it's still all out in front of him, and

769
00:37:43,040 --> 00:37:45,719
Speaker 1: they get a Rams team that maybe they get they

770
00:37:45,760 --> 00:37:47,920
Speaker 1: they kind of catch a break a little bit. If

771
00:37:47,960 --> 00:37:50,960
Speaker 1: the Rams play well last week they beat the Cowboys

772
00:37:51,000 --> 00:37:53,640
Speaker 1: and they are surging at nine and five, you get

773
00:37:53,640 --> 00:37:56,320
Speaker 1: this Titanic showdown and the Rams are believing in themselves

774
00:37:56,320 --> 00:37:58,560
Speaker 1: and they're on fire, and they're saying, we're we're good.

775
00:37:58,719 --> 00:38:00,520
Speaker 1: You know, we want a ticket into jay Anuary. We

776
00:38:00,560 --> 00:38:02,800
Speaker 1: want to defend our conference title. Well, maybe they're a

777
00:38:02,800 --> 00:38:06,960
Speaker 1: little deflated after getting their butts whooped at jeral World,

778
00:38:07,239 --> 00:38:09,520
Speaker 1: and the Rams team that shows up is closer to

779
00:38:09,520 --> 00:38:12,080
Speaker 1: the one that disappointed us for most of the season.

780
00:38:12,280 --> 00:38:14,120
Speaker 1: I like the Niners a lot in this game, and

781
00:38:14,160 --> 00:38:17,359
Speaker 1: I'm curious what you boys think. I agree with you,

782
00:38:17,719 --> 00:38:19,279
Speaker 1: but the Rams do have something to play for. The

783
00:38:19,280 --> 00:38:22,360
Speaker 1: fact that comes on Saturday is you know, the NFL

784
00:38:22,440 --> 00:38:24,799
Speaker 1: really lucked out with this NFL Network triple header. It's

785
00:38:24,840 --> 00:38:26,759
Speaker 1: really good, and they lucked out that the Rams will

786
00:38:26,800 --> 00:38:29,239
Speaker 1: be alive still. I mean only four things need to

787
00:38:29,239 --> 00:38:31,120
Speaker 1: happen for the Rams to make the playoffs. They need

788
00:38:31,160 --> 00:38:33,319
Speaker 1: to win two games, and they need the Vikings to

789
00:38:33,320 --> 00:38:35,280
Speaker 1: lose two games. But if you're the Rams, you're playing

790
00:38:35,640 --> 00:38:39,040
Speaker 1: your division rival and you're still alive for the playoffs,

791
00:38:39,440 --> 00:38:42,359
Speaker 1: it's a big game. I mean, I I don't think

792
00:38:42,440 --> 00:38:44,759
Speaker 1: if they lose, and I expect them to and that's

793
00:38:44,760 --> 00:38:47,799
Speaker 1: why I'm locking up to forty niners. Uh, it's not

794
00:38:47,840 --> 00:38:50,360
Speaker 1: gonna because they're not motivated. You know, they couldn't have

795
00:38:50,400 --> 00:38:53,200
Speaker 1: been any more motivated last week and they just didn't

796
00:38:53,200 --> 00:38:56,520
Speaker 1: show up. I think George Kittle is having one of

797
00:38:56,560 --> 00:38:59,400
Speaker 1: the greatest tight end seasons of all time. He is

798
00:38:59,520 --> 00:39:02,600
Speaker 1: like future All twenty two analytics film buffs are going

799
00:39:02,680 --> 00:39:05,160
Speaker 1: to talk about this season in hushed tones, the way

800
00:39:05,200 --> 00:39:07,799
Speaker 1: he's taken the fight to you on every single play

801
00:39:07,880 --> 00:39:10,839
Speaker 1: Like two thousand thirteen J. J. Watt, he is just

802
00:39:11,120 --> 00:39:12,799
Speaker 1: you gotta shoot him with an elephant gun to bring

803
00:39:12,840 --> 00:39:14,520
Speaker 1: him down. How does he compare to you to two

804
00:39:14,600 --> 00:39:18,720
Speaker 1: thousand thirteen Rob Gronkowski? He is. I think he plays

805
00:39:18,719 --> 00:39:21,200
Speaker 1: with a faster game speed than Pete Gronk. He is

806
00:39:21,280 --> 00:39:24,640
Speaker 1: faster than Gronk. He is just as physical as Gronk.

807
00:39:24,880 --> 00:39:28,560
Speaker 1: He is a monster red zone blocker. But no one,

808
00:39:29,600 --> 00:39:31,600
Speaker 1: no one in history of the NFL is the red

809
00:39:31,719 --> 00:39:35,080
Speaker 1: zone weapon that Rob Gronkowski was, and his hands and

810
00:39:35,160 --> 00:39:38,120
Speaker 1: body were so underrated as a red zone threat. Kittle

811
00:39:38,160 --> 00:39:40,080
Speaker 1: isn't that guy. As a receiver in the red zone.

812
00:39:40,080 --> 00:39:42,080
Speaker 1: I didn't get down around to watching that game till today,

813
00:39:42,120 --> 00:39:46,359
Speaker 1: and just Kittle catching huge passes down field in so

814
00:39:46,400 --> 00:39:49,239
Speaker 1: many different ways. You can you it's like slants. It's

815
00:39:49,280 --> 00:39:51,160
Speaker 1: at the sideline where he's knocking someone out with a

816
00:39:51,200 --> 00:39:53,640
Speaker 1: nailp but before he pulls in the past. I thought

817
00:39:53,880 --> 00:39:56,799
Speaker 1: in that game that the absence of Richard Sherman was

818
00:39:56,840 --> 00:39:59,440
Speaker 1: a huge reason they lost, because every time I looked up,

819
00:39:59,680 --> 00:40:03,239
Speaker 1: this guy Emmanuel Mosley was getting scorched by Julio Jones.

820
00:40:03,280 --> 00:40:04,920
Speaker 1: And it wasn't all big plays, but it was like

821
00:40:04,960 --> 00:40:07,680
Speaker 1: the Falcons have been subsistently moving the ball. I think

822
00:40:07,719 --> 00:40:10,520
Speaker 1: that's just how damn good Julio Jones. No, it's all,

823
00:40:10,520 --> 00:40:12,839
Speaker 1: but it's just like I think Richard Sherman could have

824
00:40:13,200 --> 00:40:14,880
Speaker 1: made a bit more of a difference in there. They

825
00:40:14,880 --> 00:40:17,400
Speaker 1: get back Sherman. They're getting Sherman back, and they're getting

826
00:40:17,400 --> 00:40:19,319
Speaker 1: back Kawan Williams, who plays a lot for them, So

827
00:40:19,360 --> 00:40:23,080
Speaker 1: that's two of their top cornerbacks return in a lot.

828
00:40:23,160 --> 00:40:24,920
Speaker 1: Had to go wrong in that game for the forty

829
00:40:24,960 --> 00:40:27,880
Speaker 1: Niners to lose, including Kittle fumbling, was it was a

830
00:40:27,960 --> 00:40:30,680
Speaker 1: huge play. Uh, they almost could have won the game

831
00:40:30,719 --> 00:40:32,640
Speaker 1: if he hadn't switched the ball, you know, switched it

832
00:40:32,680 --> 00:40:35,239
Speaker 1: in his hands and and fumbled it. And and they're

833
00:40:35,239 --> 00:40:38,160
Speaker 1: a team like the Saints that should have their eyes

834
00:40:38,640 --> 00:40:41,080
Speaker 1: like on the prize, and that was a stumble and

835
00:40:41,120 --> 00:40:43,160
Speaker 1: I think they'll be embarrassed from it. And they have

836
00:40:43,200 --> 00:40:47,000
Speaker 1: a good history against Wade Phillips's defense. Kyle Shanahan's put

837
00:40:47,080 --> 00:40:50,360
Speaker 1: up thirty points in three of the five meetings against Phillips,

838
00:40:50,360 --> 00:40:53,120
Speaker 1: and that does not include the game earlier this season,

839
00:40:53,160 --> 00:40:55,480
Speaker 1: which to me was the moment where you realize this

840
00:40:55,640 --> 00:40:59,480
Speaker 1: Rams team could just be overmatched because they were so

841
00:40:59,640 --> 00:41:03,520
Speaker 1: physically dominated by the forty Niners in that game that

842
00:41:03,680 --> 00:41:05,520
Speaker 1: I want to see that again out of the forty Niners.

843
00:41:05,520 --> 00:41:08,120
Speaker 1: We haven't seen a good forty Niners blowout in a while,

844
00:41:08,560 --> 00:41:10,360
Speaker 1: and especially since I locked him up. Just make my

845
00:41:10,440 --> 00:41:12,920
Speaker 1: Saturday night easy, right, And I mean GoF has his

846
00:41:13,000 --> 00:41:16,880
Speaker 1: stiffness and his right throwing thumb situation that's not great,

847
00:41:16,920 --> 00:41:19,440
Speaker 1: and the splits for him because the Niners are banged up,

848
00:41:19,440 --> 00:41:21,560
Speaker 1: but they still have Bosa. You've got Bucked and you've

849
00:41:21,600 --> 00:41:24,040
Speaker 1: got Eric Arms said, when you can rush Golf and

850
00:41:24,080 --> 00:41:27,120
Speaker 1: get in his face, like his statistical splits are ghastly.

851
00:41:27,239 --> 00:41:29,239
Speaker 1: I mean, he's not the same guy under pressure, and

852
00:41:29,280 --> 00:41:32,080
Speaker 1: he threw a killer interception last week that flipped that

853
00:41:32,160 --> 00:41:34,680
Speaker 1: Cowboys game on its butt. The forty Niners have three

854
00:41:34,680 --> 00:41:36,680
Speaker 1: sacks in the last three games. They haven't been as

855
00:41:36,719 --> 00:41:38,840
Speaker 1: good up front either, so I think they want to

856
00:41:38,920 --> 00:41:41,480
Speaker 1: kind of get that defensive mojo back. This is the

857
00:41:41,560 --> 00:41:44,000
Speaker 1: right old line to go west To your point about

858
00:41:44,080 --> 00:41:46,680
Speaker 1: Kittle and how he's it's more than just the passing game.

859
00:41:46,719 --> 00:41:49,760
Speaker 1: How he affects the Niners. He's the centerpiece of that offense,

860
00:41:49,920 --> 00:41:53,680
Speaker 1: according to next gens stats because of his ability to

861
00:41:53,760 --> 00:41:57,240
Speaker 1: make plays and all over the field. Uh, he changes

862
00:41:57,280 --> 00:41:59,239
Speaker 1: the way it looks around the line of scrimmage. The

863
00:41:59,520 --> 00:42:01,959
Speaker 1: box is in his pact when he's able to because

864
00:42:02,000 --> 00:42:04,400
Speaker 1: they have to follow him. And what you have is

865
00:42:04,800 --> 00:42:07,680
Speaker 1: yards per rush with Kittle on the field five point

866
00:42:07,719 --> 00:42:12,279
Speaker 1: oh without Kittle, three point four rushing touchdowns fifteen with

867
00:42:12,360 --> 00:42:15,120
Speaker 1: Kiddle three without him. They're just a totally different offense

868
00:42:15,120 --> 00:42:17,239
Speaker 1: when he's back. He's playing on a broken hankle at

869
00:42:17,239 --> 00:42:19,480
Speaker 1: one point this season, but now he's back and all

870
00:42:19,520 --> 00:42:21,919
Speaker 1: the way back to himself and everything flows through him.

871
00:42:22,040 --> 00:42:25,759
Speaker 1: They were averaging like literally a hundred rushing yards less

872
00:42:25,800 --> 00:42:28,840
Speaker 1: per game when he was out with that Injine, incredible.

873
00:42:28,840 --> 00:42:32,080
Speaker 1: All right, Wes, you are up. Oh you took my game.

874
00:42:32,320 --> 00:42:34,200
Speaker 1: I know I was hoping to get that. I thought

875
00:42:34,239 --> 00:42:37,680
Speaker 1: for sure nobody wanted to say, we'll get to watch it.

876
00:42:37,680 --> 00:42:40,600
Speaker 1: It's okay. I just didn't want an extra game. You

877
00:42:40,600 --> 00:42:43,200
Speaker 1: can even still comment on it the next day, as

878
00:42:43,239 --> 00:42:46,520
Speaker 1: you see that one's gonna be hard to recover from. Okay,

879
00:42:46,640 --> 00:42:53,920
Speaker 1: I will take Steelers at Jet. Nice job. Well, I'll

880
00:42:53,960 --> 00:42:56,680
Speaker 1: still be watching that game. Was I just going buy

881
00:42:56,719 --> 00:42:58,520
Speaker 1: my board? That's the number one left on my board.

882
00:42:59,360 --> 00:43:01,520
Speaker 1: You could always be open for business. You could always

883
00:43:01,520 --> 00:43:04,359
Speaker 1: make offer me the Saturday Night game for the Jet

884
00:43:04,360 --> 00:43:07,200
Speaker 1: game like the one. You really wanted, the Jet game.

885
00:43:07,239 --> 00:43:13,160
Speaker 1: But trade okay, no, fair enough. That was like the

886
00:43:13,239 --> 00:43:16,520
Speaker 1: g M app in real life. That was exciting. I

887
00:43:16,600 --> 00:43:19,800
Speaker 1: was surprised to hear that people expected Tomlin to consider

888
00:43:19,880 --> 00:43:23,120
Speaker 1: benching Duck Hodges after last game. I get that it

889
00:43:23,200 --> 00:43:26,360
Speaker 1: was an awful game. I get that the quarterback limitations

890
00:43:26,520 --> 00:43:30,040
Speaker 1: lost that game for the Steelers, but come on, what

891
00:43:30,040 --> 00:43:31,960
Speaker 1: what he did in a few games before that compared

892
00:43:32,000 --> 00:43:34,719
Speaker 1: to what Mason Rudolph was to one. Yeah, I guess

893
00:43:34,760 --> 00:43:38,880
Speaker 1: it was just the nature of how how almost um defenseless.

894
00:43:38,880 --> 00:43:40,840
Speaker 1: Well that's not the right word because we're talking about offense,

895
00:43:40,840 --> 00:43:43,560
Speaker 1: but just how limited they appeared when they needed that

896
00:43:43,680 --> 00:43:46,759
Speaker 1: big score in the end of the and they just

897
00:43:46,760 --> 00:43:49,160
Speaker 1: couldn't and Hodges was just not up to the task

898
00:43:49,239 --> 00:43:52,720
Speaker 1: in those last two possessions. Daylight came out, I thought

899
00:43:52,760 --> 00:43:55,640
Speaker 1: and Dot that was the way to beat the Bills

900
00:43:55,640 --> 00:43:58,000
Speaker 1: because the Bills just put everyone up front trying to

901
00:43:58,080 --> 00:44:01,120
Speaker 1: dare Duck to be a check and uh yeah, they

902
00:44:01,200 --> 00:44:03,880
Speaker 1: don't need a big offensive performance. They're gonna get ju

903
00:44:03,960 --> 00:44:06,520
Speaker 1: Ju back. James Conner looked pretty good in his return.

904
00:44:06,560 --> 00:44:08,239
Speaker 1: You count on the running game, and you count on

905
00:44:08,280 --> 00:44:11,279
Speaker 1: their team to force turnovers because you know, if there's

906
00:44:11,280 --> 00:44:14,000
Speaker 1: a criticism of San Donald in the second year, it's

907
00:44:14,040 --> 00:44:15,880
Speaker 1: pretty similar to Baker. It's similar to a lot of

908
00:44:15,880 --> 00:44:18,360
Speaker 1: young quarterbacks. He's just a little late on on things.

909
00:44:18,360 --> 00:44:21,600
Speaker 1: And if you're late against the Steelers, that's a t. J.

910
00:44:21,680 --> 00:44:24,239
Speaker 1: Watt force fumble. Yeah, I thought, you know, and that

911
00:44:24,360 --> 00:44:27,240
Speaker 1: they Obviously the Ravens game, as most two against Baltimore,

912
00:44:27,520 --> 00:44:30,160
Speaker 1: totally got away from the Jets. But the Jets, who

913
00:44:30,160 --> 00:44:32,080
Speaker 1: have been awful on third down and stuff, had a

914
00:44:32,239 --> 00:44:34,719
Speaker 1: rash at one point in the game where they converted

915
00:44:34,760 --> 00:44:37,040
Speaker 1: like seven third downs. I thought Donald made some really

916
00:44:37,040 --> 00:44:38,920
Speaker 1: good throws in that game and then it just it

917
00:44:38,960 --> 00:44:41,880
Speaker 1: went south. But I would be more hopeful, and I'm not.

918
00:44:41,960 --> 00:44:45,279
Speaker 1: This is not me trying to, you know, make a

919
00:44:45,360 --> 00:44:47,959
Speaker 1: nice a salvo to Dan here, but I'm a little

920
00:44:47,960 --> 00:44:50,759
Speaker 1: bit more hopeful with streaks of Sam Donald's play than

921
00:44:50,800 --> 00:44:54,000
Speaker 1: what I've seen from Baker this for chunks of this season.

922
00:44:54,040 --> 00:44:55,600
Speaker 1: I think they're close because I think some of the

923
00:44:55,719 --> 00:44:59,200
Speaker 1: issues are are similar for young guys. But you know,

924
00:44:59,280 --> 00:45:01,839
Speaker 1: Donald has les surround him. Let's start right there. He's

925
00:45:01,880 --> 00:45:05,759
Speaker 1: got a terrible offensive line, and you know, levy on

926
00:45:05,800 --> 00:45:07,480
Speaker 1: Bell has not been what they thought. I wonder is

927
00:45:07,520 --> 00:45:09,480
Speaker 1: does this count as a revenge game levy on Bell

928
00:45:09,600 --> 00:45:12,000
Speaker 1: versus Steelers. Not that he's gonna be to uh, you know,

929
00:45:12,080 --> 00:45:15,440
Speaker 1: impose his will, But I don't know about that. I

930
00:45:15,480 --> 00:45:18,840
Speaker 1: think my biggest concern for both Sam Donald and Baker

931
00:45:18,880 --> 00:45:21,839
Speaker 1: Mayfield is the organizations they're attached to. Yeah, it's fair,

932
00:45:21,880 --> 00:45:25,359
Speaker 1: and there's nothing through two years of their careers that

933
00:45:25,600 --> 00:45:29,520
Speaker 1: makes me feel any better about that, Like if you

934
00:45:29,600 --> 00:45:32,960
Speaker 1: put those if you put those those players in better

935
00:45:33,480 --> 00:45:36,880
Speaker 1: uh situations with management and the players. Well, Baker at

936
00:45:36,920 --> 00:45:39,200
Speaker 1: least had a good core around it, but coaching and

937
00:45:39,239 --> 00:45:41,840
Speaker 1: all that that any young quarterback is gonna get a

938
00:45:41,840 --> 00:45:43,759
Speaker 1: little fouled up. And I fear that's what's happening with

939
00:45:43,800 --> 00:45:46,479
Speaker 1: both these guys, and hopefully it changes how unpredictable. Yeah,

940
00:45:46,560 --> 00:45:48,360
Speaker 1: I I don't wanna, you know, I know you're not

941
00:45:48,360 --> 00:45:50,360
Speaker 1: gonna root for them to look bad down the stretch.

942
00:45:50,440 --> 00:45:52,600
Speaker 1: But the fact that they have to play the Ravens defense,

943
00:45:52,680 --> 00:45:55,719
Speaker 1: the Steelers defense, and then the Bill's defense in a

944
00:45:55,840 --> 00:45:58,400
Speaker 1: row and you've still got that six point performance in

945
00:45:58,400 --> 00:46:01,400
Speaker 1: Cincinnati pretty close. It is still very much on my

946
00:46:01,520 --> 00:46:03,680
Speaker 1: radar that there's a way Adam Gates could lose his job,

947
00:46:03,719 --> 00:46:05,720
Speaker 1: which I think might be might not be the worst

948
00:46:05,719 --> 00:46:08,560
Speaker 1: thing long term for Sam Donald. Just it's such a

949
00:46:08,560 --> 00:46:11,200
Speaker 1: hard slate that that's a recipe to have three pretty

950
00:46:11,239 --> 00:46:13,719
Speaker 1: tough games in a row. Yeah, that's their playoff run,

951
00:46:13,760 --> 00:46:16,600
Speaker 1: I mean, and I'm not sure. I mean, so if

952
00:46:16,640 --> 00:46:18,439
Speaker 1: Tom Brady and the Patriots are playing those three teams

953
00:46:18,440 --> 00:46:20,680
Speaker 1: in a row, they're not scoring either. It's just I

954
00:46:20,760 --> 00:46:23,520
Speaker 1: wonder if the emotion of how this season might end

955
00:46:23,560 --> 00:46:25,560
Speaker 1: for the Jets could could affect things. We know the

956
00:46:25,640 --> 00:46:29,320
Speaker 1: Jets defense is capable of putting together a pretty strong performance,

957
00:46:29,800 --> 00:46:32,000
Speaker 1: and I would think this was a recipe for an upset,

958
00:46:32,040 --> 00:46:34,759
Speaker 1: but that T J. Watton bud to pre the way

959
00:46:34,800 --> 00:46:37,440
Speaker 1: they're playing and Cameron Heyward going up against this Jets

960
00:46:37,440 --> 00:46:40,880
Speaker 1: offensive line feels like it almost feels like upset proof,

961
00:46:40,960 --> 00:46:43,239
Speaker 1: Like that's the matchup that's going to turn in this

962
00:46:43,280 --> 00:46:45,279
Speaker 1: game in the Steeler's face. And these fans are big

963
00:46:45,360 --> 00:46:47,479
Speaker 1: Jets fans. This week they need the Jets to help

964
00:46:47,520 --> 00:46:50,880
Speaker 1: them out. They'll try it. I just I'm I'm certainly

965
00:46:50,920 --> 00:46:54,399
Speaker 1: not too confident. Jamal Adams has a quote very high

966
00:46:54,520 --> 00:46:57,839
Speaker 1: chance of returning against the Steelers, So that is such

967
00:46:57,880 --> 00:46:59,719
Speaker 1: a big piece. He is the George Kittle of the Jets.

968
00:46:59,719 --> 00:47:02,759
Speaker 1: Steve previous Mike Tomlin teams. You could count on one

969
00:47:02,880 --> 00:47:04,600
Speaker 1: game a year where they go on the road and

970
00:47:04,719 --> 00:47:07,080
Speaker 1: lay an ultra gigantic egg. And I don't think this

971
00:47:07,160 --> 00:47:10,359
Speaker 1: is that Steelers team. Yeah, all right, let's move on.

972
00:47:10,480 --> 00:47:16,040
Speaker 1: Picking Next is Greg Rosenthal. Yeah, you really really hurt

973
00:47:16,120 --> 00:47:20,040
Speaker 1: me there. I mean, you're sorting through corpses at this point,

974
00:47:20,200 --> 00:47:24,480
Speaker 1: I really am. It doesn't matter. I'm guys opening up

975
00:47:24,480 --> 00:47:27,160
Speaker 1: the little refrigerators of the toe tags popping out. I've

976
00:47:27,160 --> 00:47:30,319
Speaker 1: got to uh, two games, I guess in a row here.

977
00:47:30,920 --> 00:47:34,399
Speaker 1: I'll take um, I'll take the Cardinal Seahawks because that's

978
00:47:34,440 --> 00:47:38,920
Speaker 1: the only other playoff team I think that's still available right. Uh,

979
00:47:39,080 --> 00:47:40,920
Speaker 1: this is a game that could be fun. I know

980
00:47:41,200 --> 00:47:44,680
Speaker 1: the Seahawks is one victory all season that was easy

981
00:47:44,840 --> 00:47:48,080
Speaker 1: came against these Cardinals. So the Seahawks have the same

982
00:47:48,120 --> 00:47:50,319
Speaker 1: amount of two score wins as the Bengals this year.

983
00:47:50,520 --> 00:47:54,319
Speaker 1: One and so you expected to be close at the end.

984
00:47:54,440 --> 00:47:57,040
Speaker 1: And I know they matched up well with Arizona last time.

985
00:47:57,080 --> 00:47:59,560
Speaker 1: But I would love to see Kyler Murray have a

986
00:47:59,600 --> 00:48:03,160
Speaker 1: signat your moment. He played really well last week. Um.

987
00:48:03,200 --> 00:48:04,919
Speaker 1: And that's the type of thing that if you're number

988
00:48:04,960 --> 00:48:07,680
Speaker 1: one overall draft pick and they've really had a good

989
00:48:07,760 --> 00:48:10,799
Speaker 1: year offensively, Kenyan Drake's fun to watch. I think the

990
00:48:10,880 --> 00:48:13,879
Speaker 1: Seahawks defense is beatable. They haven't been as good at

991
00:48:13,880 --> 00:48:16,760
Speaker 1: home this year. They're very banged up. Uh this week,

992
00:48:17,200 --> 00:48:19,239
Speaker 1: I think this could be kind of a fun game,

993
00:48:19,280 --> 00:48:22,600
Speaker 1: and go, go, go make something. You know, Kyler Murray.

994
00:48:22,719 --> 00:48:25,239
Speaker 1: You bring up Kyler who's had moments, but certainly it

995
00:48:25,320 --> 00:48:28,040
Speaker 1: hasn't been a you know, fantastic best games have been

996
00:48:28,040 --> 00:48:32,120
Speaker 1: in losses for the most he was playing injured. He

997
00:48:32,160 --> 00:48:36,120
Speaker 1: looked so much more explosive last week with Josh Jacob's

998
00:48:36,160 --> 00:48:39,640
Speaker 1: going down with a shoulder injury. Um, the door seems

999
00:48:39,680 --> 00:48:41,359
Speaker 1: to be open for that Offensive Rookie of the Year

1000
00:48:41,400 --> 00:48:44,439
Speaker 1: awards still and maybe if if Kyler Murray closed is strong,

1001
00:48:44,480 --> 00:48:46,480
Speaker 1: that's something he could he could get, which is a

1002
00:48:46,480 --> 00:48:48,920
Speaker 1: bigger deal to Kylin mur than anyone else. But I've

1003
00:48:48,920 --> 00:48:51,359
Speaker 1: been kind of keeping my eye on that. Um, that race,

1004
00:48:51,400 --> 00:48:53,000
Speaker 1: and it's a bit of a strange race this year.

1005
00:48:53,000 --> 00:48:55,200
Speaker 1: The Offensive Rookie of the Year. Who else even jumps

1006
00:48:55,200 --> 00:48:57,760
Speaker 1: out at you as someone that's in line for the award?

1007
00:48:57,760 --> 00:49:00,760
Speaker 1: Did Jacobs do enough before he got Brown came Metcalf?

1008
00:49:01,719 --> 00:49:04,440
Speaker 1: They haven't been as it's not a stellar It's not

1009
00:49:04,520 --> 00:49:08,440
Speaker 1: like a all shockingly stellar, but yeah, not like top

1010
00:49:08,480 --> 00:49:10,960
Speaker 1: heavy where look the wage of Brown's been playing. If

1011
00:49:10,960 --> 00:49:14,080
Speaker 1: he closed out strong, I think that's dk Metcalf in

1012
00:49:14,120 --> 00:49:16,560
Speaker 1: this game. I mean they that's where the Cardinals don't

1013
00:49:16,600 --> 00:49:19,120
Speaker 1: match up as well. Pat Peterson finally had a good game,

1014
00:49:19,160 --> 00:49:22,160
Speaker 1: but he has not been himself uh this season. That's

1015
00:49:22,160 --> 00:49:24,719
Speaker 1: why Rivas should be in that second cornerback spot for

1016
00:49:24,800 --> 00:49:29,000
Speaker 1: Chris Westling's All Decade team. Well, Patrick Peterson has had

1017
00:49:29,000 --> 00:49:31,560
Speaker 1: a bad season, Darrell Rivas hasn't played in five years.

1018
00:49:32,800 --> 00:49:36,800
Speaker 1: You're gonna hold that against him. I thought Tyler Lockett

1019
00:49:36,840 --> 00:49:39,560
Speaker 1: looked better last week. He there was a story that

1020
00:49:39,560 --> 00:49:42,080
Speaker 1: came out that that mid season flew bug that he had,

1021
00:49:42,480 --> 00:49:44,799
Speaker 1: he shed ten pounds And that's not the person that

1022
00:49:45,000 --> 00:49:48,440
Speaker 1: can easily lose ten pounds off their their NFL frame.

1023
00:49:49,080 --> 00:49:50,680
Speaker 1: But I feel like with the Seahawks, they don't you

1024
00:49:50,719 --> 00:49:52,319
Speaker 1: write the only great defense, but you look at like

1025
00:49:52,400 --> 00:49:55,680
Speaker 1: kJ right last week making huge place. Someone steps up

1026
00:49:56,000 --> 00:49:58,359
Speaker 1: every game for that, and I just trust that to happen.

1027
00:49:58,400 --> 00:49:59,600
Speaker 1: I don't know if it would be this week. I

1028
00:49:59,640 --> 00:50:01,360
Speaker 1: just I just think it might. It might be fun.

1029
00:50:01,520 --> 00:50:04,560
Speaker 1: Clowney's still hurt, Wagner is supposed to play, but he's

1030
00:50:04,600 --> 00:50:08,200
Speaker 1: missing practice, Quandary Digs is out. They just you know,

1031
00:50:08,239 --> 00:50:10,759
Speaker 1: it hasn't all come together. It's all leading to that

1032
00:50:11,560 --> 00:50:13,879
Speaker 1: Week seventeen game. I do wonder if NBC is gonna

1033
00:50:13,920 --> 00:50:15,359
Speaker 1: flex it now that I think about it, because when

1034
00:50:15,400 --> 00:50:18,160
Speaker 1: I worked there, they had this big policy that it

1035
00:50:18,200 --> 00:50:20,839
Speaker 1: had to be They always went with the play in

1036
00:50:20,920 --> 00:50:24,319
Speaker 1: game over what was just like a better matchup, and

1037
00:50:24,320 --> 00:50:26,160
Speaker 1: this will not be a play in game. But we'll

1038
00:50:26,200 --> 00:50:28,839
Speaker 1: see maybe the what's the potential playoff play in game

1039
00:50:28,840 --> 00:50:35,719
Speaker 1: out there? Titans, Texans, maybe Steelers, maybe like Steelers versus

1040
00:50:35,760 --> 00:50:38,560
Speaker 1: the Ravens backups, Like that's a little messy, we'll see.

1041
00:50:39,080 --> 00:50:43,799
Speaker 1: Does Cliff Kingsbury get enough credit for like completely when

1042
00:50:44,000 --> 00:50:47,720
Speaker 1: people most people just swept this theory up as an impossibility.

1043
00:50:47,719 --> 00:50:50,200
Speaker 1: When the when the whispers started that they were gonna

1044
00:50:50,280 --> 00:50:53,040
Speaker 1: dump Josh Rosen and go for Kyler Murray, and it

1045
00:50:53,120 --> 00:50:56,480
Speaker 1: was just widely dismissed as gossip and rumor and NFL

1046
00:50:56,480 --> 00:50:58,919
Speaker 1: teams don't operate this way, and what would this team

1047
00:50:58,920 --> 00:51:00,880
Speaker 1: be with Josh Rosen. I mean, Josh Rosen can't even

1048
00:51:00,920 --> 00:51:03,040
Speaker 1: start for the Dolphins right now. So it's like Cliff

1049
00:51:03,120 --> 00:51:05,360
Speaker 1: Kingsbury and it was not their GM or anyone else

1050
00:51:05,719 --> 00:51:08,160
Speaker 1: convinced the organization to do the right thing, and it

1051
00:51:08,200 --> 00:51:10,359
Speaker 1: has turned out well and they have hope because of

1052
00:51:10,400 --> 00:51:14,239
Speaker 1: that one single knighted belief in this quarter. Watching last week,

1053
00:51:14,280 --> 00:51:16,279
Speaker 1: it was hard not to think which duo would you

1054
00:51:16,520 --> 00:51:20,680
Speaker 1: rather have Kyler and Kyle and King Cliff or Baker

1055
00:51:20,719 --> 00:51:22,960
Speaker 1: and Freddy. Kitchen thought the same thing. You want the Cardinals.

1056
00:51:23,360 --> 00:51:24,759
Speaker 1: You know, who's the player that kind of makes me

1057
00:51:24,800 --> 00:51:27,279
Speaker 1: believe in cliffore and Anyway, it's Kenyan Drake. It's the

1058
00:51:27,400 --> 00:51:29,040
Speaker 1: running game is so good. You take a guy who

1059
00:51:29,040 --> 00:51:31,600
Speaker 1: didn't do anything in Miami and suddenly he's, you know,

1060
00:51:32,040 --> 00:51:35,160
Speaker 1: a pro bowled quality running back. It's almost like you'd

1061
00:51:35,160 --> 00:51:38,799
Speaker 1: get away from Adam Gaze. I didn't bring that up.

1062
00:51:39,360 --> 00:51:41,439
Speaker 1: If he didn't go down that avenue, you just did?

1063
00:51:42,000 --> 00:51:46,200
Speaker 1: All right? Who Greg, it's snaking it is you know,

1064
00:51:46,280 --> 00:51:48,560
Speaker 1: it's only get a nuggles. These bodis so get you know,

1065
00:51:48,600 --> 00:51:54,040
Speaker 1: the stink on them gets. Well, why not go? Will Greers? First?

1066
00:51:54,040 --> 00:51:58,320
Speaker 1: Start here against the colt I mean, what you're gonna

1067
00:51:58,360 --> 00:52:00,400
Speaker 1: tell me the you fell on the green that was

1068
00:52:00,400 --> 00:52:02,839
Speaker 1: sitting atop a dead body. Well, there's a four way.

1069
00:52:02,920 --> 00:52:04,960
Speaker 1: There's a four team playoff at the top of the

1070
00:52:05,040 --> 00:52:09,200
Speaker 1: draft that has its own attractiveness. Actually, Giants, Redskins. You

1071
00:52:09,200 --> 00:52:11,000
Speaker 1: can make an argument, but I'll see I like guys

1072
00:52:11,000 --> 00:52:13,720
Speaker 1: when they start their first game, you just the curiosity factor.

1073
00:52:13,719 --> 00:52:15,799
Speaker 1: I also feel so bad for this Colt's team. It's

1074
00:52:15,840 --> 00:52:19,920
Speaker 1: like they deserve to play a tomato can like the

1075
00:52:19,960 --> 00:52:22,480
Speaker 1: Panthers right now, starting Will Greer in their first game.

1076
00:52:22,520 --> 00:52:24,759
Speaker 1: They're better than than six and eight, and you would

1077
00:52:24,800 --> 00:52:28,040
Speaker 1: think that they're running game would be able to overpower

1078
00:52:28,160 --> 00:52:32,640
Speaker 1: what's just been an abysmal Panthers rush defense. Would you

1079
00:52:32,640 --> 00:52:34,560
Speaker 1: ever if you're the Colts, and I mean the answer

1080
00:52:34,680 --> 00:52:36,640
Speaker 1: is no, because they're not. This is they're not doing this,

1081
00:52:36,719 --> 00:52:39,799
Speaker 1: But um Dan would have an interestedness and so would

1082
00:52:39,840 --> 00:52:43,880
Speaker 1: I in getting a look at Chad Kelly. I understand

1083
00:52:43,880 --> 00:52:45,360
Speaker 1: that you're not and you can make it clear that

1084
00:52:45,400 --> 00:52:48,960
Speaker 1: prisets not someone that you're tracking report like you know, replace,

1085
00:52:49,080 --> 00:52:53,239
Speaker 1: but I are we by this week. I think someone

1086
00:52:53,440 --> 00:52:55,680
Speaker 1: sent it to me and my mentions that he has

1087
00:52:55,680 --> 00:52:59,400
Speaker 1: not even been considered as an option to play in

1088
00:52:59,440 --> 00:53:01,880
Speaker 1: these finals game. I just personally, I just want to

1089
00:53:01,920 --> 00:53:04,200
Speaker 1: see it. I'm not saying that that's how this organism.

1090
00:53:04,680 --> 00:53:08,160
Speaker 1: You know, Brissette signed through next year at a very

1091
00:53:08,200 --> 00:53:11,399
Speaker 1: reasonable rate for a starting quarterback. He's gonna be there now,

1092
00:53:11,400 --> 00:53:15,520
Speaker 1: whether they draft someone or bringing someone. Yeah to me.

1093
00:53:15,560 --> 00:53:17,480
Speaker 1: I think they want to get some wins here at

1094
00:53:17,520 --> 00:53:20,440
Speaker 1: the end. Well, I know that swag Kelly has been

1095
00:53:20,480 --> 00:53:22,440
Speaker 1: exciting to watch in the preseason, but I think it

1096
00:53:22,480 --> 00:53:26,759
Speaker 1: speaks volumes when they waive him yeah, and then he

1097
00:53:26,800 --> 00:53:29,879
Speaker 1: gets through waivers, nobody claims him, and he spends time

1098
00:53:29,880 --> 00:53:32,279
Speaker 1: on the practice squad, and then he gets called up

1099
00:53:32,320 --> 00:53:34,560
Speaker 1: only when there's an injury. I just don't think they

1100
00:53:34,600 --> 00:53:36,680
Speaker 1: see him the same. Zack Key for who reports for

1101
00:53:36,680 --> 00:53:39,080
Speaker 1: the athletic This was his tweet for the Chad Kelly

1102
00:53:39,120 --> 00:53:41,680
Speaker 1: will lead the Cults to the Promised Land crowd. The

1103
00:53:41,680 --> 00:53:44,520
Speaker 1: Cults have not even discussed elevating him to the backup

1104
00:53:44,600 --> 00:53:47,440
Speaker 1: role for the final, to the back to the backup alright,

1105
00:53:47,880 --> 00:53:50,880
Speaker 1: it that was my You know, the history is not

1106
00:53:51,000 --> 00:53:53,359
Speaker 1: riches calling would say in this situation, he was so

1107
00:53:53,400 --> 00:53:56,919
Speaker 1: good in the preseason I carved up and Will Greer

1108
00:53:57,040 --> 00:54:00,400
Speaker 1: was so bad in the preseason, and as poorly Kyle

1109
00:54:00,440 --> 00:54:03,200
Speaker 1: Allen has played Will Greer, it took until now to

1110
00:54:03,239 --> 00:54:06,080
Speaker 1: get a start. Why won't they let Sway Kelly be great.

1111
00:54:06,680 --> 00:54:09,080
Speaker 1: He's been dealing with this his whole life. Let swa

1112
00:54:09,520 --> 00:54:13,600
Speaker 1: It's an organizational question that goes to the highest functioning order.

1113
00:54:13,640 --> 00:54:17,120
Speaker 1: Maybe you should have thought about like walking into that

1114
00:54:17,200 --> 00:54:22,399
Speaker 1: stranger's house after the Von Miller Halloween Park's past number one.

1115
00:54:22,880 --> 00:54:25,200
Speaker 1: And also how about we lock our doors and so

1116
00:54:25,239 --> 00:54:27,400
Speaker 1: we avoid this confusion of the future. He's teaching us

1117
00:54:27,440 --> 00:54:30,719
Speaker 1: a lesson about our society. All right, Uh, moving on,

1118
00:54:30,920 --> 00:54:35,719
Speaker 1: Chris Wesley, Well, at this point, I'm just going grass fields.

1119
00:54:36,000 --> 00:54:39,239
Speaker 1: We'll we'll do Lions at Broncos because at least it's

1120
00:54:39,280 --> 00:54:43,080
Speaker 1: a fun stadium to watch. And aren't you curious? I

1121
00:54:43,080 --> 00:54:46,480
Speaker 1: think Drew locks for the last two weeks are consequential,

1122
00:54:47,120 --> 00:54:49,200
Speaker 1: Like for all these teams that are totally out of it,

1123
00:54:49,280 --> 00:54:53,600
Speaker 1: the Drew lock like five week audition. It that's something

1124
00:54:53,719 --> 00:54:55,759
Speaker 1: to me that's gonna tell you about the Broncos for

1125
00:54:55,800 --> 00:54:57,600
Speaker 1: next year. Yeah, and I don't know how much stock

1126
00:54:57,680 --> 00:55:00,080
Speaker 1: to put in last week's game in the snow. That

1127
00:55:00,160 --> 00:55:03,319
Speaker 1: was pretty heavy snow. And Patrick mahomes like, you don't

1128
00:55:03,360 --> 00:55:05,200
Speaker 1: ever want to be a team that goes into Kansas

1129
00:55:05,239 --> 00:55:06,719
Speaker 1: City and the snow. We saw what happened to the

1130
00:55:06,719 --> 00:55:09,680
Speaker 1: Colts in the playoffs last year, and the Broncos got

1131
00:55:09,680 --> 00:55:13,080
Speaker 1: whitewashed last week. But Lock, it looked like he didn't

1132
00:55:13,120 --> 00:55:15,560
Speaker 1: have a good grip on the ball. So I'm gonna

1133
00:55:15,560 --> 00:55:17,600
Speaker 1: write that game off and just kind of judge him

1134
00:55:17,600 --> 00:55:20,359
Speaker 1: on what he's done in the games without Snow. I mean,

1135
00:55:20,360 --> 00:55:22,840
Speaker 1: he may encounter Snow again in his career, but I

1136
00:55:24,120 --> 00:55:26,560
Speaker 1: don't know how to predict that. He's from He's from

1137
00:55:26,560 --> 00:55:28,640
Speaker 1: the Kansas City area, said he had been to I

1138
00:55:28,680 --> 00:55:31,560
Speaker 1: think like over fifty Chiefs games in his life. Well,

1139
00:55:31,560 --> 00:55:33,960
Speaker 1: that tells me goes back and just gets well, you

1140
00:55:34,000 --> 00:55:35,759
Speaker 1: know how it is when you're you're just gotten out

1141
00:55:35,760 --> 00:55:37,520
Speaker 1: of college, you go back to your hometown, you're hanging

1142
00:55:37,520 --> 00:55:39,200
Speaker 1: out with your high school friends. Probably was you know.

1143
00:55:39,239 --> 00:55:40,920
Speaker 1: I'm just saying that could have been a factor not

1144
00:55:41,040 --> 00:55:45,480
Speaker 1: reporting that. Uh. Two Pro Bowl snubs for the Broncos,

1145
00:55:45,560 --> 00:55:48,520
Speaker 1: Courtland Sutton and Justin Simmons, they might be the two

1146
00:55:48,520 --> 00:55:52,319
Speaker 1: biggest Pro Bowl snubs period. I think they I think so. Well,

1147
00:55:52,360 --> 00:55:54,279
Speaker 1: the good thing is the Ravens have like fourteen or

1148
00:55:54,320 --> 00:55:57,520
Speaker 1: fifteen people that you're gonna get Courtland Sulland's gonna be

1149
00:55:57,760 --> 00:55:59,880
Speaker 1: the Pro Bowl mix it. Simmons wasn't even be touching

1150
00:56:00,000 --> 00:56:04,960
Speaker 1: in Orlando. Wasn't even his interception of my homes last

1151
00:56:05,000 --> 00:56:07,799
Speaker 1: week was an amazing play and he first team All Pro.

1152
00:56:08,000 --> 00:56:09,920
Speaker 1: He might be he has a chance, I think at

1153
00:56:09,960 --> 00:56:11,799
Speaker 1: first team All Pro, and yet he didn't make the

1154
00:56:11,800 --> 00:56:14,520
Speaker 1: Pro West. When you said that you were going grass fields,

1155
00:56:14,560 --> 00:56:16,480
Speaker 1: I thought it was like some type of metaphor about

1156
00:56:16,520 --> 00:56:19,120
Speaker 1: being free, like just following your heart or something. But

1157
00:56:19,239 --> 00:56:21,279
Speaker 1: you were literally talking about watching game played on a

1158
00:56:21,320 --> 00:56:23,759
Speaker 1: grass field. Well, I think the free part of it. Yeah.

1159
00:56:23,760 --> 00:56:27,759
Speaker 1: I mean, as I've said before, Natural has been been

1160
00:56:27,800 --> 00:56:30,440
Speaker 1: beating Fake for like a hundred thousand year winning streak.

1161
00:56:30,600 --> 00:56:33,839
Speaker 1: Natural in the red. Yeah, Washington doesn't really count because

1162
00:56:33,840 --> 00:56:38,000
Speaker 1: that's just dirt. At this point, grass I considered that

1163
00:56:38,400 --> 00:56:46,200
Speaker 1: fields terrible. I'm up and uh god, dang, let's u

1164
00:56:46,320 --> 00:56:50,560
Speaker 1: Let's watch Minshew. You know what, let's watch your final

1165
00:56:50,640 --> 00:56:55,560
Speaker 1: scouting assessment on him, Gardner Minshew traveling to Atlanta to

1166
00:56:55,640 --> 00:56:59,319
Speaker 1: face the Falcons right back at you. Um, here we go.

1167
00:57:00,320 --> 00:57:03,080
Speaker 1: The Jaguars. You know, they really got helped out by

1168
00:57:03,120 --> 00:57:06,040
Speaker 1: the officials in that game. Uh as we As we mentioned,

1169
00:57:06,080 --> 00:57:09,919
Speaker 1: I believe Jon Gruden was given an apology by the league,

1170
00:57:09,920 --> 00:57:12,600
Speaker 1: which is almost worse than not getting an apologies. It's like,

1171
00:57:13,040 --> 00:57:17,400
Speaker 1: I know that that's the NFL taking accountability, But what

1172
00:57:17,520 --> 00:57:19,760
Speaker 1: is it. I mean, it doesn't bring the w backy.

1173
00:57:19,840 --> 00:57:21,760
Speaker 1: It's like, hey, Al Davis, you shouldn't have gone after

1174
00:57:21,840 --> 00:57:25,960
Speaker 1: Pete Rosel so hard. Their deep roots here, so so yes,

1175
00:57:26,080 --> 00:57:29,280
Speaker 1: ruling Derek Carr out of bounds really is what led

1176
00:57:29,320 --> 00:57:32,440
Speaker 1: to the Raiders, uh going down the tubes and the

1177
00:57:32,480 --> 00:57:35,000
Speaker 1: Jaguars getting that win. But good for Jacksonville. I still

1178
00:57:35,000 --> 00:57:36,560
Speaker 1: had a march down the field and we saw some

1179
00:57:36,600 --> 00:57:38,800
Speaker 1: Minshew magic to make that happen. And now they go

1180
00:57:38,880 --> 00:57:41,320
Speaker 1: to Atlanta to play the Falcons and yeah, we're not

1181
00:57:41,560 --> 00:57:43,400
Speaker 1: You only get a couple of more chances to watch

1182
00:57:43,440 --> 00:57:46,200
Speaker 1: Matt Ryan play football this season. They're five and nine,

1183
00:57:46,280 --> 00:57:51,880
Speaker 1: so uh in uh in their building a little Minshew Falcons.

1184
00:57:51,920 --> 00:57:54,000
Speaker 1: And one thing we we should touch on is that

1185
00:57:54,040 --> 00:57:57,560
Speaker 1: Tom Coughlin was fired. Tom Cofflin, who's the vice president

1186
00:57:57,560 --> 00:58:01,919
Speaker 1: of Operations I believe was his title in Jacksonville football

1187
00:58:01,960 --> 00:58:04,520
Speaker 1: czar is another way to put it. He was let

1188
00:58:04,560 --> 00:58:07,600
Speaker 1: go and that happened um at the same time, and

1189
00:58:07,880 --> 00:58:11,920
Speaker 1: the report came out that the Jaguars, what was the

1190
00:58:11,960 --> 00:58:15,600
Speaker 1: exact details surrounding this thing about fines that are being

1191
00:58:15,640 --> 00:58:18,240
Speaker 1: overturned all over the place right down and the unions

1192
00:58:18,680 --> 00:58:21,760
Speaker 1: putting it out there that players should seriously consider even

1193
00:58:21,800 --> 00:58:24,959
Speaker 1: going to Jacksonville to play for them. Really messy stuff.

1194
00:58:25,000 --> 00:58:28,280
Speaker 1: And Coughlin and his culture. Our boy Connor or actually

1195
00:58:28,760 --> 00:58:31,919
Speaker 1: over at Sports Illustrated wrote a nice piece about how

1196
00:58:32,000 --> 00:58:35,360
Speaker 1: Tom Coughlin's hard nosed style, if you're not five minutes

1197
00:58:35,400 --> 00:58:38,080
Speaker 1: earlier late, uh to see they switched the clocks back.

1198
00:58:38,360 --> 00:58:41,400
Speaker 1: They switched the clocks back. JA today switched it back

1199
00:58:41,440 --> 00:58:45,000
Speaker 1: to normal. Was like I showed up and I was like,

1200
00:58:45,120 --> 00:58:47,120
Speaker 1: I'm not early, am I? But then he was like, oh,

1201
00:58:47,160 --> 00:58:50,560
Speaker 1: I guess they changed. But yeah. Connor used an example

1202
00:58:50,800 --> 00:58:54,440
Speaker 1: within the piece of how strict it was with Coughlin

1203
00:58:54,600 --> 00:58:56,680
Speaker 1: at the top both of the Giants and the Jags,

1204
00:58:56,960 --> 00:58:59,920
Speaker 1: if you weren't wearing uh, you know, the proper necktie

1205
00:59:00,480 --> 00:59:02,600
Speaker 1: on a team flight, they would take some of your

1206
00:59:02,640 --> 00:59:05,720
Speaker 1: game check, just like tiki tech stuff like that. That

1207
00:59:05,800 --> 00:59:08,600
Speaker 1: maybe it worked even as recently as ten years ago

1208
00:59:08,640 --> 00:59:10,760
Speaker 1: in the NFL, and certainly worked twenty and thirty and

1209
00:59:10,760 --> 00:59:13,000
Speaker 1: forty years, but in the modern league it's just a

1210
00:59:13,000 --> 00:59:15,160
Speaker 1: little bit different now. And a guy like Coughlin was

1211
00:59:15,200 --> 00:59:20,000
Speaker 1: a dinosaur. So the Jaguars wisely move on from Coughlin,

1212
00:59:20,080 --> 00:59:22,320
Speaker 1: and now we find out and we will find out

1213
00:59:22,360 --> 00:59:24,520
Speaker 1: if that's where it ends or if we're or it's

1214
00:59:24,560 --> 00:59:27,720
Speaker 1: gonna be a full purge in Jacksonville. Based on the

1215
00:59:27,760 --> 00:59:32,080
Speaker 1: statement from shot Khan that the GM calledwell, David Caldwell

1216
00:59:32,120 --> 00:59:34,240
Speaker 1: and Doug Moron will report to him directly on an

1217
00:59:34,240 --> 00:59:38,440
Speaker 1: interim basis, and just everything that's happened, it's it feels

1218
00:59:38,520 --> 00:59:41,680
Speaker 1: like they're just gonna clean total house. I think Caldwell

1219
00:59:41,760 --> 00:59:45,560
Speaker 1: is the one that no one sure, you know, there's

1220
00:59:45,600 --> 00:59:48,040
Speaker 1: some speculation that the last to get the results of

1221
00:59:48,080 --> 00:59:50,720
Speaker 1: the last two games could play a big impact if

1222
00:59:50,720 --> 00:59:54,360
Speaker 1: they win three straight, that that'll really help. Which is

1223
00:59:54,360 --> 00:59:56,600
Speaker 1: how you got Doug Moron in the first place, is

1224
00:59:56,640 --> 00:59:58,480
Speaker 1: that you hired him because he went one and one

1225
00:59:58,520 --> 01:00:02,000
Speaker 1: in Blake Bordles from like the thirty second best quarterback

1226
01:00:02,040 --> 01:00:04,520
Speaker 1: to the twenty second best quarterback for two weeks. Like

1227
01:00:04,560 --> 01:00:07,800
Speaker 1: that's how you did it. But Coughlin, it's a rough

1228
01:00:08,000 --> 01:00:09,960
Speaker 1: it's a rough way to go out because it's not

1229
01:00:10,000 --> 01:00:11,560
Speaker 1: just that like he had these old school ways. He

1230
01:00:11,600 --> 01:00:15,400
Speaker 1: was breaking the rules of the collective Bargaining Agreement. Twenty

1231
01:00:15,400 --> 01:00:19,120
Speaker 1: five different players were fine for missing quote unquote mandatory

1232
01:00:19,880 --> 01:00:24,240
Speaker 1: offseason you know, appointments with physicians, which is literally against

1233
01:00:24,280 --> 01:00:26,520
Speaker 1: the c b A. And so the players union had

1234
01:00:26,560 --> 01:00:32,120
Speaker 1: all these complaints, well, you can't require players to get

1235
01:00:32,160 --> 01:00:34,640
Speaker 1: your treatment at the facility in the off season, and

1236
01:00:34,680 --> 01:00:36,880
Speaker 1: they were requiring them and they were finding them. But

1237
01:00:36,920 --> 01:00:39,160
Speaker 1: also other stuff like Leonard Fournette being on the bench

1238
01:00:39,640 --> 01:00:43,520
Speaker 1: last year that was a dollar fine, right they fired him.

1239
01:00:43,560 --> 01:00:46,000
Speaker 1: That got overturned. Like there's a bunch of fines that

1240
01:00:46,040 --> 01:00:50,640
Speaker 1: they found that the whole rest of the league I

1241
01:00:50,680 --> 01:00:54,520
Speaker 1: think added up to less than half of all the

1242
01:00:54,600 --> 01:00:57,280
Speaker 1: cases than the Jaguars have had over the last two years.

1243
01:00:57,280 --> 01:00:59,200
Speaker 1: So the NFL p A said you should consider that,

1244
01:00:59,240 --> 01:01:02,000
Speaker 1: and I think that's why on uh just decided to

1245
01:01:02,040 --> 01:01:04,840
Speaker 1: fire Coughlin right now, not even wait two weeks. I'd say,

1246
01:01:04,840 --> 01:01:07,200
Speaker 1: on the flip side, you know that the Falcons obviously

1247
01:01:07,400 --> 01:01:10,040
Speaker 1: last week they're playing hard. They go out and upset

1248
01:01:10,320 --> 01:01:14,120
Speaker 1: the Niners, but they are weirdly two wins away from

1249
01:01:14,120 --> 01:01:16,600
Speaker 1: being seven and nine, and I would say, and maybe

1250
01:01:16,600 --> 01:01:19,360
Speaker 1: saving dan Quinn's job. I mean, I'll say some teams

1251
01:01:19,400 --> 01:01:21,560
Speaker 1: you can feel them floating away and the players are

1252
01:01:21,560 --> 01:01:24,240
Speaker 1: not responding, and it's hard to watch but the Falcons

1253
01:01:24,280 --> 01:01:28,440
Speaker 1: are not that right now. They did this last year too,

1254
01:01:28,480 --> 01:01:30,960
Speaker 1: they won their last three games. His defense historically is

1255
01:01:31,000 --> 01:01:34,160
Speaker 1: always better in the second half. I don't I don't know.

1256
01:01:34,440 --> 01:01:36,960
Speaker 1: I've heard of You've have been reading that, but I'm surprised.

1257
01:01:37,000 --> 01:01:39,320
Speaker 1: My thing is like disappointment at seven and nine. Dan

1258
01:01:39,400 --> 01:01:41,280
Speaker 1: Quinn is a little bit of a ron rivera thing

1259
01:01:41,280 --> 01:01:43,240
Speaker 1: to him where a lot of people around the league

1260
01:01:43,360 --> 01:01:45,920
Speaker 1: think that dan Quinn is the guy and a great coach,

1261
01:01:45,960 --> 01:01:49,200
Speaker 1: and you know, situationally, maybe not in the greatest situation

1262
01:01:49,240 --> 01:01:51,840
Speaker 1: for him in Atlanta this season, but who are you

1263
01:01:51,840 --> 01:01:54,120
Speaker 1: You're gonna You're gonna remove him, and again you have

1264
01:01:54,160 --> 01:01:55,840
Speaker 1: to go find out that you're gonna get someone better.

1265
01:01:55,840 --> 01:01:58,120
Speaker 1: I just thought of unlocking this game and it didn't

1266
01:01:58,120 --> 01:02:01,040
Speaker 1: even pass the old Desert test. That's how much the

1267
01:02:01,080 --> 01:02:04,640
Speaker 1: Desert is a fan of that Falcons right now. Julio Jones,

1268
01:02:04,680 --> 01:02:06,480
Speaker 1: just a word of praise about him. This is why

1269
01:02:06,600 --> 01:02:09,840
Speaker 1: you keep playing your stars when you're eliminated from playoff contention.

1270
01:02:09,920 --> 01:02:14,040
Speaker 1: To see responsible for twenty of his team's twenty three

1271
01:02:14,080 --> 01:02:16,400
Speaker 1: points in that game. A Hall of Famer in the

1272
01:02:16,480 --> 01:02:19,120
Speaker 1: late stages of his prime, proving he's still an All

1273
01:02:19,160 --> 01:02:21,920
Speaker 1: Pro and you better pay attention because put me on

1274
01:02:21,920 --> 01:02:23,800
Speaker 1: that All Pro list with the way I'm playing. And

1275
01:02:23,840 --> 01:02:26,200
Speaker 1: how about this, people are paying money to go, you know,

1276
01:02:26,280 --> 01:02:30,360
Speaker 1: to these games. Yes, I'm with you, Jo Johns. If

1277
01:02:30,360 --> 01:02:32,160
Speaker 1: they go one and seven and then in the first

1278
01:02:32,200 --> 01:02:35,000
Speaker 1: seven close six and two, I think he keeps his job.

1279
01:02:35,480 --> 01:02:37,360
Speaker 1: I'm just saying that. A lot of it's like, is

1280
01:02:37,400 --> 01:02:40,800
Speaker 1: there this amazing candidate, is Bill Parcels two point o

1281
01:02:40,920 --> 01:02:43,120
Speaker 1: sitting out there? And the Falcons are the team that

1282
01:02:43,160 --> 01:02:44,960
Speaker 1: wants to go chasing? There's no one out there? You

1283
01:02:44,960 --> 01:02:47,440
Speaker 1: know who is out there? What a Bill Parcels is

1284
01:02:47,440 --> 01:02:51,920
Speaker 1: old lieutenants is out there? And the available Tom caufin well,

1285
01:02:51,960 --> 01:02:55,040
Speaker 1: I don't Yeah, that's low stakes. All right, Mark, you're up,

1286
01:02:55,520 --> 01:02:57,600
Speaker 1: all right? I am in this draft, by the way,

1287
01:02:57,720 --> 01:03:00,240
Speaker 1: has just unfolded and beautiful fashion. I have one game

1288
01:03:00,280 --> 01:03:03,760
Speaker 1: on Saturday. I have one game early on Sunday, and

1289
01:03:03,800 --> 01:03:06,640
Speaker 1: I am now going to pick the final four o'clock

1290
01:03:06,680 --> 01:03:10,720
Speaker 1: Eastern time Standard time zone start with the Oakland Raiders

1291
01:03:10,760 --> 01:03:14,160
Speaker 1: at the Charge and Gradualations markets. Sixteen weeks. Someone got

1292
01:03:14,200 --> 01:03:16,960
Speaker 1: a perfect draft finally, and well it sits just the

1293
01:03:17,000 --> 01:03:19,120
Speaker 1: way I want to do it and it's the Raiders.

1294
01:03:19,960 --> 01:03:22,400
Speaker 1: Four games in a row, you've lost. Come on here, people,

1295
01:03:22,840 --> 01:03:27,320
Speaker 1: and you know it was that written now, But I just,

1296
01:03:27,120 --> 01:03:32,320
Speaker 1: I mean, it's just the single greatest moment of analysis

1297
01:03:32,320 --> 01:03:34,160
Speaker 1: on the history of this podcast. Want that to be

1298
01:03:34,200 --> 01:03:37,800
Speaker 1: a drop two very two, very absurd teams. I mean,

1299
01:03:37,840 --> 01:03:41,200
Speaker 1: the Chargers have the worst turnover differential in the league,

1300
01:03:41,200 --> 01:03:43,240
Speaker 1: tied with the Bengals, and they look like at half

1301
01:03:43,240 --> 01:03:45,000
Speaker 1: the time. And I thought that a couple of weeks

1302
01:03:45,040 --> 01:03:48,760
Speaker 1: ago when they flamed Jacksonville, that Rivers had awoken for

1303
01:03:48,800 --> 01:03:50,919
Speaker 1: what would be a potentially a three or four games

1304
01:03:50,960 --> 01:03:53,880
Speaker 1: stretch to close his career in Los Angeles. But then no,

1305
01:03:54,120 --> 01:03:56,160
Speaker 1: last week happens and they totally melt. So these are

1306
01:03:56,200 --> 01:03:59,800
Speaker 1: two totally unpredictable, but more they are predictable in the

1307
01:03:59,800 --> 01:04:02,840
Speaker 1: center that they're unreliable week to week. Uh. I don't

1308
01:04:02,880 --> 01:04:05,960
Speaker 1: find the Chargers that fun to watch. The Raiders, UH

1309
01:04:06,400 --> 01:04:08,720
Speaker 1: crushed me last week and I locked them. I told

1310
01:04:08,760 --> 01:04:12,080
Speaker 1: Sky Sports at halftime that you could bet houses, you

1311
01:04:12,120 --> 01:04:14,600
Speaker 1: could bet cars, they are not losing this game. And

1312
01:04:14,600 --> 01:04:17,200
Speaker 1: I came at it hard. And it's like the time

1313
01:04:17,200 --> 01:04:19,280
Speaker 1: in a row. I've told Neil Reynolds and Sky Sports

1314
01:04:19,280 --> 01:04:21,720
Speaker 1: something and it's gone south within half an hour to

1315
01:04:21,800 --> 01:04:23,959
Speaker 1: an hour after. So I don't know why they still

1316
01:04:24,080 --> 01:04:26,480
Speaker 1: put you rent and you don't even have a car

1317
01:04:26,600 --> 01:04:28,480
Speaker 1: right now. Well it's not my possessions, but I mean

1318
01:04:28,520 --> 01:04:30,200
Speaker 1: I was telling other people to go do it. So

1319
01:04:30,560 --> 01:04:32,640
Speaker 1: I have no idea who will win this game. I mean,

1320
01:04:32,640 --> 01:04:34,400
Speaker 1: you know, we're saying there's some people in London right

1321
01:04:34,400 --> 01:04:36,520
Speaker 1: now with broken kneecaps because of you. I think it's

1322
01:04:36,520 --> 01:04:40,080
Speaker 1: possible you and Rainmakers should take your show on the road,

1323
01:04:40,200 --> 01:04:43,720
Speaker 1: the possible off the road. The Raiders are not playing

1324
01:04:44,040 --> 01:04:46,200
Speaker 1: Josh Jacobs in this game. Trent Brown is on ir.

1325
01:04:46,280 --> 01:04:48,000
Speaker 1: It feels like the moves of a team that just

1326
01:04:48,040 --> 01:04:51,200
Speaker 1: doesn't want any further. Damn, John Gruen said packing up

1327
01:04:51,240 --> 01:04:53,520
Speaker 1: the boxes after the loss. As they were packing up

1328
01:04:53,560 --> 01:04:56,520
Speaker 1: the boxes at the Oakland cal Seum, poor Josh Jacobs

1329
01:04:56,560 --> 01:04:59,520
Speaker 1: couldn't even get his uh shoulder pads off. He wasn't

1330
01:04:59,520 --> 01:05:02,160
Speaker 1: so much after the game. So it makes all the

1331
01:05:02,200 --> 01:05:04,320
Speaker 1: sense of the world. Well, I guess you know it

1332
01:05:04,400 --> 01:05:06,200
Speaker 1: was the last game, and you know there was some

1333
01:05:06,320 --> 01:05:08,560
Speaker 1: juice to it, but it makes all the sense of

1334
01:05:08,560 --> 01:05:10,800
Speaker 1: the world to shut down what's a really great rookie

1335
01:05:10,840 --> 01:05:13,200
Speaker 1: season overall for Jacobs's You're trying to forget that Raider

1336
01:05:13,320 --> 01:05:17,320
Speaker 1: Nation does get their annual l A game still every year,

1337
01:05:17,800 --> 01:05:20,760
Speaker 1: so they'll I'm sure it will be mostly Raiders fans today,

1338
01:05:21,040 --> 01:05:23,600
Speaker 1: I mean on Sunday rather so that you know the

1339
01:05:23,680 --> 01:05:26,280
Speaker 1: goodbye will continue in the next you know, those games

1340
01:05:26,280 --> 01:05:28,080
Speaker 1: now every year when they come to l A are

1341
01:05:28,120 --> 01:05:30,840
Speaker 1: gonna be even more like Raiders heavy than ever. I

1342
01:05:30,880 --> 01:05:34,720
Speaker 1: think John Grun's going quarterback shopping this offseason. We're back

1343
01:05:34,760 --> 01:05:37,280
Speaker 1: here now, so I'm not saying he's gonna cut their car,

1344
01:05:37,320 --> 01:05:39,480
Speaker 1: but I think he's gonna he's gonna fall in love

1345
01:05:39,520 --> 01:05:42,240
Speaker 1: with somebody in the draft or chase another quarterback. The

1346
01:05:42,280 --> 01:05:44,720
Speaker 1: way they've played the last month and the way this

1347
01:05:44,840 --> 01:05:48,120
Speaker 1: offense has been so limited all year. There the beat

1348
01:05:48,120 --> 01:05:52,959
Speaker 1: writer for the Las Vegas Review Journal, Vincent Bonsignori, he

1349
01:05:53,240 --> 01:05:55,560
Speaker 1: tweeted that out this week, which got some attention, that

1350
01:05:55,600 --> 01:05:58,040
Speaker 1: he thought there there would be changes at quarterback. He

1351
01:05:58,120 --> 01:06:01,320
Speaker 1: left it vague, but he was this falls in love

1352
01:06:01,360 --> 01:06:04,880
Speaker 1: with quarterbacks easily well and all. And also they honored

1353
01:06:05,000 --> 01:06:07,240
Speaker 1: Derek Carr by giving him this season, and that you

1354
01:06:07,240 --> 01:06:09,200
Speaker 1: know there was last off season, through all these whispers

1355
01:06:09,200 --> 01:06:11,440
Speaker 1: that John Gruden wanted all you know quarterback x Y

1356
01:06:11,480 --> 01:06:14,600
Speaker 1: and z had Kyler Murray and their building. I wouldn't

1357
01:06:14,640 --> 01:06:16,640
Speaker 1: be surprised at all if they fall in love with

1358
01:06:16,720 --> 01:06:19,280
Speaker 1: free agent or a free agent or someone else. They'll

1359
01:06:19,280 --> 01:06:21,360
Speaker 1: they'll see what they can get, and it's like, is

1360
01:06:21,400 --> 01:06:23,520
Speaker 1: it that better than car? And there's a chance maybe

1361
01:06:23,720 --> 01:06:28,000
Speaker 1: they won't get anything better? All right? Mark, great drafts, Bengali,

1362
01:06:28,080 --> 01:06:30,800
Speaker 1: you're up again, Well, and I'm picking. I believe I'm

1363
01:06:30,840 --> 01:06:35,760
Speaker 1: the snake situation for either Nick Shook or Jeremy Bergmann

1364
01:06:36,720 --> 01:06:38,800
Speaker 1: because the other option is based on a trade I

1365
01:06:38,840 --> 01:06:42,080
Speaker 1: made last week that only plays into this amazing thing. Well,

1366
01:06:42,120 --> 01:06:43,880
Speaker 1: I'm just saying I'm not doing four games, so he

1367
01:06:43,960 --> 01:06:47,720
Speaker 1: still got some good. I am picking for someone. I'm

1368
01:06:47,720 --> 01:06:50,800
Speaker 1: picking for someone the Bengals a Dolphins for you know,

1369
01:06:51,240 --> 01:06:53,640
Speaker 1: can the Cincinnati Bengals do the most Bengals thing ever

1370
01:06:53,680 --> 01:06:55,880
Speaker 1: and somehow not wind up with the first overall pick.

1371
01:06:55,920 --> 01:06:58,440
Speaker 1: I think they're going to um. But what concerns me

1372
01:06:58,480 --> 01:07:01,200
Speaker 1: a little bit. I would put it in one game

1373
01:07:01,280 --> 01:07:03,840
Speaker 1: comment is that Joe Mixon actually has been awesome in

1374
01:07:03,880 --> 01:07:07,440
Speaker 1: the past couple of weeks. He tore up the Patriots

1375
01:07:07,440 --> 01:07:10,200
Speaker 1: a week ago, and the Dolphins for all their you know,

1376
01:07:10,400 --> 01:07:14,040
Speaker 1: hopeful little moments, the one thing they've consistently absolutely stunk

1377
01:07:14,080 --> 01:07:16,400
Speaker 1: to join up with is allowing running backs to, if

1378
01:07:16,400 --> 01:07:18,840
Speaker 1: they're in a tough place, totally break out week after

1379
01:07:18,880 --> 01:07:22,240
Speaker 1: week against Miami. So I could see Cincinnati controlling this

1380
01:07:22,280 --> 01:07:25,439
Speaker 1: game if if you don't get any big mistakes, and uh,

1381
01:07:25,480 --> 01:07:28,040
Speaker 1: they should win. And then suddenly you've got a showdown

1382
01:07:28,080 --> 01:07:32,720
Speaker 1: scenario where the Dolphins play the Patriots the week after

1383
01:07:32,800 --> 01:07:35,280
Speaker 1: and the Bengals play the Brown Brown So the Bengals

1384
01:07:35,320 --> 01:07:37,120
Speaker 1: would have to win two straight. I think it's possible.

1385
01:07:37,120 --> 01:07:39,000
Speaker 1: I thought about locking up this game. I'm shocked that

1386
01:07:39,080 --> 01:07:42,959
Speaker 1: the Dolphins are favorites. I just think Cincinnati's much better

1387
01:07:43,240 --> 01:07:45,840
Speaker 1: right now. Belichick called Joe Mixon the best running back

1388
01:07:45,880 --> 01:07:50,480
Speaker 1: in the league after that game. Pretty wild statement. He's playing,

1389
01:07:51,160 --> 01:07:54,080
Speaker 1: He's playing like George Kittle at running back, Like you

1390
01:07:54,120 --> 01:07:57,080
Speaker 1: really have to do that running had against the Patriots

1391
01:07:57,120 --> 01:08:00,560
Speaker 1: where right was it the Browns game where he looked

1392
01:08:00,560 --> 01:08:02,200
Speaker 1: like he was getting a tan yard loss and he

1393
01:08:02,200 --> 01:08:04,600
Speaker 1: broke about seven tackles, had a few against had one

1394
01:08:04,640 --> 01:08:07,000
Speaker 1: against the Patriots. That was. That was unbelievable looking at

1395
01:08:07,000 --> 01:08:10,640
Speaker 1: my favorite website, tankathon dot com. Just a great name.

1396
01:08:10,720 --> 01:08:14,360
Speaker 1: As we know, Cincinnati's one loss away from Joe Burrow.

1397
01:08:15,200 --> 01:08:19,120
Speaker 1: The Giants are two right now, the Dolphins at three

1398
01:08:19,400 --> 01:08:22,160
Speaker 1: and the Redskins at four. All are three and eleven.

1399
01:08:22,200 --> 01:08:25,400
Speaker 1: But it's about strength of schedule. Who's got the weakest

1400
01:08:25,439 --> 01:08:27,320
Speaker 1: strength of schedule of the group, and right now it's

1401
01:08:27,320 --> 01:08:28,880
Speaker 1: the Giants. And I don't take a look. They do

1402
01:08:28,920 --> 01:08:32,479
Speaker 1: a nice job here that um Khalil Mack trade Bears Raiders.

1403
01:08:32,800 --> 01:08:35,120
Speaker 1: That's still gonna bear fruit for the Raiders. They right

1404
01:08:35,160 --> 01:08:38,280
Speaker 1: now the where it is now, that's the eighteenth overall

1405
01:08:38,320 --> 01:08:41,280
Speaker 1: pick going to the Raiders. That's the Bears pick. And

1406
01:08:41,320 --> 01:08:43,800
Speaker 1: the Jalen Ramsey trade the Rams right now that's a

1407
01:08:43,880 --> 01:08:47,080
Speaker 1: top twenty pick, and of course that make a Fitzpatrick

1408
01:08:47,160 --> 01:08:51,519
Speaker 1: Dolphins Steelers trade twenty two Jaguars and the one reason

1409
01:08:51,560 --> 01:08:53,240
Speaker 1: you get new people and is they have four number

1410
01:08:53,240 --> 01:08:56,160
Speaker 1: one picks over the next two years. Oh and the

1411
01:08:56,240 --> 01:08:58,800
Speaker 1: Laramie Tunzl trade is twenty three. So right now the

1412
01:08:58,840 --> 01:09:05,600
Speaker 1: Dolphins are at three. The Obes's gitting pretty especially with

1413
01:09:05,640 --> 01:09:09,640
Speaker 1: that Tounsil trade. Still time I get it, but for

1414
01:09:09,720 --> 01:09:12,040
Speaker 1: this season, he if there was any risk of him

1415
01:09:12,080 --> 01:09:15,680
Speaker 1: losing his job, he he kept himself employed. All right,

1416
01:09:16,720 --> 01:09:19,360
Speaker 1: I'm up, I will take the first game I see

1417
01:09:19,720 --> 01:09:25,320
Speaker 1: Giants at Redskins. Uh. Daniel Jones practiced fully on Wednesday.

1418
01:09:25,920 --> 01:09:28,840
Speaker 1: That tells me, as it should tell everyone, that he

1419
01:09:28,920 --> 01:09:32,080
Speaker 1: will be back in the lineup, sending Eli Manning back

1420
01:09:32,080 --> 01:09:35,200
Speaker 1: to the bench. Uh. As far as yeah, that all

1421
01:09:35,240 --> 01:09:37,200
Speaker 1: worked out. I was a little suspicious to begin with,

1422
01:09:37,240 --> 01:09:40,639
Speaker 1: and now I'm even more. They just wanted to see

1423
01:09:40,640 --> 01:09:43,160
Speaker 1: a little that the ownership wanted to see a little

1424
01:09:43,200 --> 01:09:45,840
Speaker 1: Eli Manning. They didn't want Jones playing like through an injury.

1425
01:09:45,840 --> 01:09:47,479
Speaker 1: I'm sure that there was truth to all of it.

1426
01:09:47,680 --> 01:09:52,880
Speaker 1: I think that's fair, and hey, it worked out. By far,

1427
01:09:52,960 --> 01:09:55,120
Speaker 1: the best moment of the year for the Giants was

1428
01:09:55,160 --> 01:09:57,720
Speaker 1: that win left Eli was the backup, so by necessity,

1429
01:09:57,800 --> 01:10:01,000
Speaker 1: when Jones getsing hurt, initially he's in a tough at Philly,

1430
01:10:01,040 --> 01:10:04,120
Speaker 1: but then it's like, well, you know, DJs banged up here,

1431
01:10:04,640 --> 01:10:07,240
Speaker 1: Let's get a home game, say goodbye to Eli, and

1432
01:10:07,280 --> 01:10:09,559
Speaker 1: then get back to business. Uh, and you get the

1433
01:10:09,600 --> 01:10:13,320
Speaker 1: Redskins And Uh, I will say that if I'm a

1434
01:10:13,360 --> 01:10:15,720
Speaker 1: Redskins fan. There was a period about I don't know,

1435
01:10:15,760 --> 01:10:17,880
Speaker 1: five weeks ago, maybe even three or four weeks ago,

1436
01:10:18,439 --> 01:10:23,320
Speaker 1: And remember we were dissecting that sideline conversation between Dwayne

1437
01:10:23,320 --> 01:10:26,240
Speaker 1: Haskins and the offensive line, and and it felt like

1438
01:10:26,280 --> 01:10:31,080
Speaker 1: the interim coach, Greg's boy Callaghan was purposely trying to

1439
01:10:31,160 --> 01:10:34,800
Speaker 1: end games as quickly as possible, and Haskins just looked overwhelmed.

1440
01:10:35,560 --> 01:10:37,400
Speaker 1: I feel like the last couple of weeks there's at

1441
01:10:37,439 --> 01:10:40,240
Speaker 1: least something to point at Haskins, But there's a little

1442
01:10:40,240 --> 01:10:42,600
Speaker 1: bit of growth here. He didn't you guarantee that his

1443
01:10:42,680 --> 01:10:45,880
Speaker 1: career is going to flame out because of Yes, okay, yes,

1444
01:10:45,920 --> 01:10:48,400
Speaker 1: but I'm pointing out the what is fair, which is

1445
01:10:48,439 --> 01:10:50,680
Speaker 1: that he has looked better. No, I did not like

1446
01:10:50,800 --> 01:10:53,680
Speaker 1: him taking selfies after his first NFL win. I will

1447
01:10:53,720 --> 01:10:56,439
Speaker 1: never like that he did that. But yes, he's obviously

1448
01:10:56,479 --> 01:10:58,479
Speaker 1: got the armed talent that he you know, he hangs

1449
01:10:58,479 --> 01:11:00,439
Speaker 1: in the pocket, maybe holds onto the ball too long.

1450
01:11:00,720 --> 01:11:03,920
Speaker 1: But I don't see him as a total disaster right now.

1451
01:11:03,920 --> 01:11:06,240
Speaker 1: I see him in like a Baker Mayfield, like a

1452
01:11:06,320 --> 01:11:10,000
Speaker 1: Sam Donald, a young quarterback trapped in an unhealthy situation

1453
01:11:10,200 --> 01:11:12,519
Speaker 1: and hopefully gets better for him. I'm gonna be curious

1454
01:11:12,520 --> 01:11:14,599
Speaker 1: to watch this because because of the young quarterbacks at

1455
01:11:14,600 --> 01:11:18,880
Speaker 1: some point, but both quarterbacks are with in systems offensively

1456
01:11:19,000 --> 01:11:20,880
Speaker 1: that they're not going to be in next year, right,

1457
01:11:20,920 --> 01:11:22,120
Speaker 1: So it's just one of those going to be in

1458
01:11:22,120 --> 01:11:25,080
Speaker 1: three weeks. The situations where you're right even don't know

1459
01:11:25,280 --> 01:11:28,360
Speaker 1: what you're gonna take from their late season performance, just

1460
01:11:28,439 --> 01:11:30,160
Speaker 1: drawn up plays in the dirt in the huddle for

1461
01:11:30,200 --> 01:11:32,360
Speaker 1: every play. I love it. I would watch that game

1462
01:11:32,400 --> 01:11:33,880
Speaker 1: in a second. If you're just telling me they're just

1463
01:11:33,880 --> 01:11:37,200
Speaker 1: gonna play schoolyard football in week sixteen of a meaningless

1464
01:11:37,200 --> 01:11:41,080
Speaker 1: football game, sounds fun to me. Uh West, We've got

1465
01:11:41,120 --> 01:11:43,439
Speaker 1: a little breaking news. Let's just throw it in. Let's

1466
01:11:43,439 --> 01:11:47,280
Speaker 1: throw it right right now. The Patriots have declared Julian

1467
01:11:47,439 --> 01:11:52,839
Speaker 1: Edelman out or questionable rather for Sunday's game. I would

1468
01:11:52,920 --> 01:11:56,760
Speaker 1: I would not have gone breaking if I had read it.

1469
01:11:59,160 --> 01:12:02,479
Speaker 1: They protested out a whole new crew in go on

1470
01:12:02,680 --> 01:12:05,439
Speaker 1: air with this breaking news. All of those peoples their

1471
01:12:05,520 --> 01:12:10,400
Speaker 1: Christmas man. You got the guy in the background playing

1472
01:12:10,400 --> 01:12:16,759
Speaker 1: the piano breaking I well, you know what. The number

1473
01:12:16,840 --> 01:12:20,479
Speaker 1: five overall PFF cornerback this year, Jonathan Jones is out

1474
01:12:20,600 --> 01:12:25,360
Speaker 1: how about that. No, And you know what, Ricky, let's

1475
01:12:25,360 --> 01:12:27,439
Speaker 1: not edit out of the show because this could be

1476
01:12:27,479 --> 01:12:30,080
Speaker 1: a learning lesson for Greg the humiliation that will come

1477
01:12:30,439 --> 01:12:33,120
Speaker 1: with this breaking. I mean, people need to know Jonathan Jones,

1478
01:12:33,160 --> 01:12:34,880
Speaker 1: he's been great in the slot. It's a matchup with

1479
01:12:34,920 --> 01:12:38,240
Speaker 1: cold Bleete Beasley hasn't missed. You cannot win this argument

1480
01:12:38,240 --> 01:12:41,320
Speaker 1: at this I read it wrong. West, close out our

1481
01:12:41,640 --> 01:12:45,360
Speaker 1: Sunday slate. I think we've moved on to the you're

1482
01:12:45,400 --> 01:12:48,120
Speaker 1: into the prime. Oh good, good, good, All right, West,

1483
01:12:48,160 --> 01:12:54,080
Speaker 1: You're done? Good job? Was um okay? And Mark, I

1484
01:12:54,120 --> 01:12:57,719
Speaker 1: think it would be unfair to stick our buddies Shook

1485
01:12:58,200 --> 01:13:00,479
Speaker 1: or Burgo with games that bad. I think we're just

1486
01:13:00,479 --> 01:13:05,000
Speaker 1: gonna handle those games we be. That would be West

1487
01:13:05,040 --> 01:13:07,320
Speaker 1: based on this, we will be very quick on them.

1488
01:13:08,160 --> 01:13:10,000
Speaker 1: My hand, my hands are clean. It is going to

1489
01:13:10,080 --> 01:13:12,120
Speaker 1: West or one of those two people. You can you

1490
01:13:12,160 --> 01:13:14,840
Speaker 1: guys figure it out? All right? Here we go, Uh,

1491
01:13:14,880 --> 01:13:21,200
Speaker 1: Sunday Night football. The Kansas City Chiefs ten and four. Uh.

1492
01:13:21,240 --> 01:13:24,759
Speaker 1: Looking very good in the snow last week, especially that defense.

1493
01:13:25,400 --> 01:13:28,360
Speaker 1: Travel now to face the Bears that Soldier field, which

1494
01:13:28,880 --> 01:13:30,720
Speaker 1: you know if you're a Bears fan, this was a

1495
01:13:30,760 --> 01:13:32,760
Speaker 1: game you're so excited about. When the season began, it

1496
01:13:32,800 --> 01:13:35,160
Speaker 1: looked like it was a showdown, maybe even a Super

1497
01:13:35,200 --> 01:13:37,719
Speaker 1: Bowl preview. But it's not the case because the Bears

1498
01:13:37,720 --> 01:13:41,200
Speaker 1: aren't going anywhere but home once they finished the regular season.

1499
01:13:41,439 --> 01:13:44,479
Speaker 1: The Chiefs. Meanwhile, Greg and you called it. I um

1500
01:13:44,640 --> 01:13:47,799
Speaker 1: on Sunday you said, don't look at twenty three points

1501
01:13:48,479 --> 01:13:51,519
Speaker 1: and think that the Chiefs aren't figuring things out on offense.

1502
01:13:51,760 --> 01:13:54,599
Speaker 1: If you watch that game, Uh, that looked like an

1503
01:13:54,640 --> 01:13:56,720
Speaker 1: offense that is taking off in a big way. Now,

1504
01:13:56,760 --> 01:13:59,960
Speaker 1: could they use a better running game if Andy Reid

1505
01:14:00,040 --> 01:14:02,439
Speaker 1: could have done it again when he trade Carlos Hyde

1506
01:14:02,439 --> 01:14:06,360
Speaker 1: for a backup offensive lineman. I don't know, maybe maybe not,

1507
01:14:07,160 --> 01:14:09,360
Speaker 1: But the running games out there, but the passing game

1508
01:14:09,439 --> 01:14:12,479
Speaker 1: is humming. And I imagine even against the good Bears defense,

1509
01:14:12,720 --> 01:14:14,600
Speaker 1: the Chiefs aren't gonna be denied. It could be a

1510
01:14:14,600 --> 01:14:18,080
Speaker 1: tough spot, though it's it's not that tough a spot.

1511
01:14:18,120 --> 01:14:19,920
Speaker 1: I don't think. And I and if I was a

1512
01:14:19,960 --> 01:14:22,280
Speaker 1: Bears fan, yeah, maybe you were looking forward to it.

1513
01:14:22,320 --> 01:14:25,519
Speaker 1: You shouldn't be, because every time you see Patrick Mahomes

1514
01:14:25,880 --> 01:14:28,719
Speaker 1: lighten you up on Sunday in the snow or the cold, Weather.

1515
01:14:28,800 --> 01:14:31,320
Speaker 1: You should be thinking about how he was drafted, you

1516
01:14:31,320 --> 01:14:33,800
Speaker 1: know later in the same draft that you took Mentell

1517
01:14:33,880 --> 01:14:36,400
Speaker 1: Robinsky when there's no way out of this Trobinsky thing.

1518
01:14:36,400 --> 01:14:39,439
Speaker 1: Here's the thing with Rabinsky, even when he's playing better,

1519
01:14:39,479 --> 01:14:41,840
Speaker 1: I always get back to the point that he only

1520
01:14:41,840 --> 01:14:45,280
Speaker 1: played one year in college and his his main exciting

1521
01:14:45,360 --> 01:14:47,920
Speaker 1: trade was supposed to be accuracy. And I could see

1522
01:14:47,920 --> 01:14:52,440
Speaker 1: it like, if he was accurate, he could be a

1523
01:14:52,439 --> 01:14:55,879
Speaker 1: slight a richer Man's Alex Smith. But he's not accurate.

1524
01:14:55,960 --> 01:14:58,040
Speaker 1: He's just not And so all the other things that

1525
01:14:58,080 --> 01:15:00,880
Speaker 1: he doesn't do that well really come to the four

1526
01:15:01,040 --> 01:15:03,559
Speaker 1: and they're I think they're in a really tough spot

1527
01:15:03,600 --> 01:15:06,360
Speaker 1: as an organization, not just a quarterback. But to me,

1528
01:15:06,439 --> 01:15:09,840
Speaker 1: the defense might get slightly worse every year trying to

1529
01:15:09,920 --> 01:15:13,040
Speaker 1: keep it together. It's just, uh, it's as tricky as

1530
01:15:13,439 --> 01:15:16,880
Speaker 1: Dan and his little Ice, which I believe was very

1531
01:15:16,920 --> 01:15:20,719
Speaker 1: audible to second time in the show with a little

1532
01:15:21,160 --> 01:15:26,639
Speaker 1: guest appearance by the old Ice. I like it, don't

1533
01:15:26,920 --> 01:15:30,320
Speaker 1: tell me watching that game this morning too with with Mahomes,

1534
01:15:30,320 --> 01:15:33,040
Speaker 1: because I thought, well, the score is interesting, but they well,

1535
01:15:33,080 --> 01:15:35,240
Speaker 1: I mean, what would you rather write not? It's like

1536
01:15:35,280 --> 01:15:36,800
Speaker 1: there's not a lot else to be doing during the week,

1537
01:15:36,880 --> 01:15:39,680
Speaker 1: so the I feel like everyone else was playing in

1538
01:15:39,720 --> 01:15:43,000
Speaker 1: the snow. He's playing in a dome, and he looked

1539
01:15:43,040 --> 01:15:45,400
Speaker 1: like he had total control over the ball and was

1540
01:15:45,479 --> 01:15:48,920
Speaker 1: like making these insane touch passes into tight windows and

1541
01:15:49,160 --> 01:15:51,960
Speaker 1: over the shoulder to Sammy Watkinson Travis Kelsey on fire.

1542
01:15:52,000 --> 01:15:54,360
Speaker 1: I mean it's like this team was not affected by

1543
01:15:54,360 --> 01:15:56,599
Speaker 1: the weather at all. He was not. Here's the thing.

1544
01:15:56,640 --> 01:15:59,160
Speaker 1: If if and I know Lamar Jackson is gonna be

1545
01:15:59,200 --> 01:16:00,840
Speaker 1: the m v P, and he should be, But if

1546
01:16:00,880 --> 01:16:03,400
Speaker 1: I was just taking one player for the rest of

1547
01:16:03,439 --> 01:16:06,240
Speaker 1: the season to be leading my team, it's to me,

1548
01:16:06,280 --> 01:16:09,639
Speaker 1: it's Patrick Mahomes. He's still He's still the guy that

1549
01:16:10,240 --> 01:16:14,719
Speaker 1: just I think can do everything and can beat anyone.

1550
01:16:14,880 --> 01:16:17,400
Speaker 1: And I don't know any team playing Patrick Mahomes cannot

1551
01:16:17,439 --> 01:16:21,479
Speaker 1: feel comfortable. Well. The Chiefs defense to the last month,

1552
01:16:21,479 --> 01:16:23,280
Speaker 1: they've been so good that they are now right there

1553
01:16:23,280 --> 01:16:25,320
Speaker 1: with the Saints in d v O A for defense

1554
01:16:25,400 --> 01:16:28,799
Speaker 1: they are about the same grade. The Chiefs are eleventh

1555
01:16:28,840 --> 01:16:32,879
Speaker 1: now in total defense efficiency. Chris Chris Jones is unreal.

1556
01:16:33,040 --> 01:16:34,920
Speaker 1: I mean, he just dominates a game and then you

1557
01:16:35,000 --> 01:16:37,600
Speaker 1: have you're pretty good on the back end, where Spagnolo

1558
01:16:37,640 --> 01:16:39,840
Speaker 1: has been a very good higher that he mixes it

1559
01:16:39,920 --> 01:16:49,240
Speaker 1: up and Slo has been different teams need different things. Um. Finally,

1560
01:16:49,280 --> 01:16:52,840
Speaker 1: over those Super Bowls, it was just one second. He

1561
01:16:52,920 --> 01:16:55,160
Speaker 1: was only uh, he was only there for one No,

1562
01:16:55,280 --> 01:17:00,759
Speaker 1: the first right, First, the great helmet catch Plax Burrows.

1563
01:17:00,760 --> 01:17:05,080
Speaker 1: How does he get so wide open? Ellis Hobbs just

1564
01:17:05,880 --> 01:17:09,040
Speaker 1: dragging at the end of that year? Yeakes, you're putting

1565
01:17:09,080 --> 01:17:13,559
Speaker 1: the helmet catch on specs. That's right, I know Tay

1566
01:17:13,640 --> 01:17:18,080
Speaker 1: Warren did. Ty Warren just yanks him down. Greg nick Quickkowski,

1567
01:17:18,200 --> 01:17:20,640
Speaker 1: Bears inside linebacker, is gonna rank pretty high in our

1568
01:17:20,640 --> 01:17:23,439
Speaker 1: free agency rankings. Somebody's gonna pay him. If it's not

1569
01:17:23,479 --> 01:17:25,200
Speaker 1: the Bears, somebody else is gonna pay him. He's been

1570
01:17:25,200 --> 01:17:27,920
Speaker 1: better than Trevathan was. Well. Now, after getting that inside info,

1571
01:17:27,960 --> 01:17:30,719
Speaker 1: I'm gonna like rank him artificially low just to balance

1572
01:17:30,760 --> 01:17:36,759
Speaker 1: out West's nice I'm not saying the curtain Well, that's

1573
01:17:36,520 --> 01:17:39,519
Speaker 1: what happened. I usually have to rank Gino Smith three

1574
01:17:40,040 --> 01:17:42,160
Speaker 1: in order to balance out Greg's Rankin knows it free

1575
01:17:42,200 --> 01:17:44,439
Speaker 1: at and I think this year he's If you will

1576
01:17:44,479 --> 01:17:46,720
Speaker 1: never sign another multi your contract, if you like at

1577
01:17:46,720 --> 01:17:50,360
Speaker 1: the improvement that the Seahawks offense has made since Gino Smith, Like,

1578
01:17:50,400 --> 01:17:52,960
Speaker 1: what's the change for the Seahawks this year? He's a

1579
01:17:52,960 --> 01:17:56,439
Speaker 1: good coin for Yeah, he's done some nice coin toss action. Alright.

1580
01:17:56,479 --> 01:17:59,479
Speaker 1: Monday Night Football. The Green Bay Packers eleven and three

1581
01:17:59,520 --> 01:18:03,599
Speaker 1: at the minute, Soto Vikings tenant for This is massive

1582
01:18:04,040 --> 01:18:07,800
Speaker 1: because obviously we're talking about the Vikings with a chance

1583
01:18:07,840 --> 01:18:11,639
Speaker 1: to clinch a playoff spot with a win if they lose.

1584
01:18:11,720 --> 01:18:15,080
Speaker 1: As we pointed out, the door is open with Rams

1585
01:18:15,080 --> 01:18:16,920
Speaker 1: need to win take care of their business, but the

1586
01:18:17,000 --> 01:18:19,200
Speaker 1: Vikings can lose out and miss the playoffs even a

1587
01:18:19,200 --> 01:18:21,760
Speaker 1: tenant four right now. So, uh, the game has so

1588
01:18:21,880 --> 01:18:24,600
Speaker 1: much meeting and that's even beyond before you get to

1589
01:18:24,600 --> 01:18:27,120
Speaker 1: the fact that yes, the NFC North and potentially a

1590
01:18:27,240 --> 01:18:29,080
Speaker 1: by is online. So this is one of those games

1591
01:18:29,080 --> 01:18:32,960
Speaker 1: that really affects so much in the NFC, and it's

1592
01:18:33,000 --> 01:18:36,960
Speaker 1: a game that wes you. Um You've pointed out many

1593
01:18:36,960 --> 01:18:40,000
Speaker 1: times in the show about how the Vikings are a

1594
01:18:40,120 --> 01:18:42,960
Speaker 1: great team at home and that's what I would be

1595
01:18:43,000 --> 01:18:45,719
Speaker 1: the most nervous about if I'm a Packers fan. We've

1596
01:18:45,720 --> 01:18:48,880
Speaker 1: talked about Green Bay, how maybe a team that doesn't

1597
01:18:48,880 --> 01:18:50,720
Speaker 1: have a lot of big wins on the Ledger that

1598
01:18:50,960 --> 01:18:53,080
Speaker 1: isn't blowing you away on a week by week basis,

1599
01:18:53,200 --> 01:18:56,000
Speaker 1: especially on offense. The defense has been up and down.

1600
01:18:56,520 --> 01:18:59,160
Speaker 1: Do they have what it takes to go on the

1601
01:18:59,240 --> 01:19:02,719
Speaker 1: road and this type of setting and win a huge

1602
01:19:02,720 --> 01:19:04,360
Speaker 1: game with the division on the line. I think it's

1603
01:19:04,640 --> 01:19:07,280
Speaker 1: obviously a huge test that's going to teach us so

1604
01:19:07,360 --> 01:19:10,080
Speaker 1: much and we'll finally learn whether the Packers are legit

1605
01:19:10,160 --> 01:19:11,800
Speaker 1: or not. What do you think? Well, I I would

1606
01:19:11,800 --> 01:19:14,719
Speaker 1: pick the Vikings to win, but I also think maybe

1607
01:19:14,720 --> 01:19:17,760
Speaker 1: we've been a little too hard on the Packers. They

1608
01:19:17,760 --> 01:19:20,639
Speaker 1: are eleven and three. After watching that game, I thought

1609
01:19:20,720 --> 01:19:23,120
Speaker 1: Rodgers was a little bit better than I expected. He

1610
01:19:23,240 --> 01:19:25,439
Speaker 1: made some great throws, but that's not really his problem

1611
01:19:25,520 --> 01:19:28,000
Speaker 1: is making great downfield throws. They have so many just

1612
01:19:28,160 --> 01:19:30,640
Speaker 1: misses all the time. Um, it's the fact that they

1613
01:19:30,680 --> 01:19:32,599
Speaker 1: couldn't move the ball in the fourth quarter with the lead.

1614
01:19:33,000 --> 01:19:35,439
Speaker 1: But they have shown improvement on defense, I think, and

1615
01:19:35,520 --> 01:19:37,559
Speaker 1: Kenny Clark is playing at a much higher level the

1616
01:19:37,600 --> 01:19:39,960
Speaker 1: last few games than he was at mid season. I

1617
01:19:40,000 --> 01:19:41,800
Speaker 1: think this defense is playing a little bit better now.

1618
01:19:41,880 --> 01:19:44,680
Speaker 1: They're they're a boomer bust offense. They're big player. You know,

1619
01:19:44,720 --> 01:19:46,519
Speaker 1: they have Aaron Jones, the whole thing of like Aaron

1620
01:19:46,600 --> 01:19:49,439
Speaker 1: Rodgers on that weapons. Please, He's got the best tackle

1621
01:19:49,520 --> 01:19:52,240
Speaker 1: combination in the league, the best continuity on that offensive line.

1622
01:19:52,320 --> 01:19:54,360
Speaker 1: None of them have missed a snap all season. He's

1623
01:19:54,360 --> 01:19:56,720
Speaker 1: got Davante Adams and he's got Aaron Jones too. You're

1624
01:19:56,760 --> 01:19:58,640
Speaker 1: mixing up the idea of what a weapon is and

1625
01:19:58,680 --> 01:20:02,080
Speaker 1: what the offensive line. But I'm okay. And he's got

1626
01:20:02,160 --> 01:20:04,800
Speaker 1: Davante Adams and he's got Aaron Jones, He's got They've

1627
01:20:04,800 --> 01:20:07,000
Speaker 1: got enough to be successful, but their boom er bust

1628
01:20:07,120 --> 01:20:09,080
Speaker 1: in terms of their offense, I don't think plays and

1629
01:20:09,120 --> 01:20:11,760
Speaker 1: they're not like chain moving type of player. Put that

1630
01:20:11,800 --> 01:20:13,800
Speaker 1: on with how they use Aaron Jones. Why aren't they

1631
01:20:13,920 --> 01:20:17,360
Speaker 1: running him twenty times a game? Yeah? I mean, and

1632
01:20:17,760 --> 01:20:20,920
Speaker 1: you know, no, Dalvin Cook that bothers me about this

1633
01:20:20,960 --> 01:20:23,559
Speaker 1: game a long and rapport has reported he's unlikely no

1634
01:20:23,600 --> 01:20:25,600
Speaker 1: one else is as aggressive. So Ian is out on

1635
01:20:25,640 --> 01:20:27,479
Speaker 1: a limb way to go. Ian No, I'm giving him

1636
01:20:27,479 --> 01:20:29,479
Speaker 1: the credit. Doesn't sound like it's gonna be there, and

1637
01:20:29,479 --> 01:20:31,680
Speaker 1: they didn't. Up until this morning, there was doubt that

1638
01:20:31,720 --> 01:20:34,400
Speaker 1: Alexander Madison would play their backup that he's got an

1639
01:20:34,439 --> 01:20:36,559
Speaker 1: ankle issue, but it sounds like Mike Zimmer said he

1640
01:20:36,600 --> 01:20:39,360
Speaker 1: has a good chance to suit up. But that if

1641
01:20:39,400 --> 01:20:42,280
Speaker 1: you take away that from the Vikings, I I just

1642
01:20:42,320 --> 01:20:45,600
Speaker 1: don't Both these teams I've doubts about in general, and

1643
01:20:45,640 --> 01:20:48,280
Speaker 1: the fact that green Bay if the way this season

1644
01:20:48,280 --> 01:20:51,080
Speaker 1: plays out, I just trust that the football deity is

1645
01:20:51,120 --> 01:20:53,960
Speaker 1: above will not allow us to have Green Bay as

1646
01:20:54,000 --> 01:20:56,280
Speaker 1: the second seeded team when this thing shakes out there,

1647
01:20:56,280 --> 01:20:59,360
Speaker 1: the least second seed team I could ever imagine on

1648
01:20:59,439 --> 01:21:03,200
Speaker 1: planet Earth. Stre the Saints are sitting out there. Give

1649
01:21:03,200 --> 01:21:05,760
Speaker 1: me a break with the idea that the green Bay

1650
01:21:05,760 --> 01:21:08,040
Speaker 1: Packers or the team coming out of this amazing NFC

1651
01:21:08,439 --> 01:21:12,040
Speaker 1: with the bye week, I don't know, buy and Saints

1652
01:21:12,080 --> 01:21:13,760
Speaker 1: and one and two. I think it would be. I'd

1653
01:21:13,800 --> 01:21:17,760
Speaker 1: be fine with Seattle and the Saints or San Francisco

1654
01:21:17,800 --> 01:21:19,600
Speaker 1: where this and they could be the one seed. I

1655
01:21:19,600 --> 01:21:23,120
Speaker 1: mean it's possible, it's it's unlikely that the Packers would be.

1656
01:21:23,320 --> 01:21:26,160
Speaker 1: Who do you, guys has had Which quarterback in this

1657
01:21:26,200 --> 01:21:30,479
Speaker 1: game has had a better year? I'll put that. I

1658
01:21:30,479 --> 01:21:33,400
Speaker 1: mean I trust Aaron Rodgers more instinctively to do anything,

1659
01:21:33,400 --> 01:21:35,559
Speaker 1: But Cousins has had the better seat. Right. I trust

1660
01:21:35,640 --> 01:21:38,640
Speaker 1: Rogers more too, but Cousins has had the better year statistically.

1661
01:21:38,760 --> 01:21:40,479
Speaker 1: Kirk Cousins has had the better year. It's not even

1662
01:21:40,520 --> 01:21:45,080
Speaker 1: cloud statistically. And I'm not that worried about Cook being

1663
01:21:45,120 --> 01:21:47,439
Speaker 1: not there. I mean the running game when Boone comes

1664
01:21:47,439 --> 01:21:48,840
Speaker 1: in last weekend, I was the end of the game,

1665
01:21:48,880 --> 01:21:52,040
Speaker 1: but Madison there there. The offensive lines played better. Do

1666
01:21:52,160 --> 01:21:55,200
Speaker 1: they've protected Cousins. Cousins had all sorts of time against

1667
01:21:55,200 --> 01:21:59,639
Speaker 1: the Chargers, even against those good pass rushers. I uh,

1668
01:21:59,680 --> 01:22:01,639
Speaker 1: I think is a game the defense. Though, for the Vikings,

1669
01:22:01,680 --> 01:22:03,840
Speaker 1: they should be able to win this. I mean they've

1670
01:22:03,880 --> 01:22:06,760
Speaker 1: been building this defense for six years. They spent more

1671
01:22:06,880 --> 01:22:09,680
Speaker 1: resources on this defense than any team in in the

1672
01:22:09,720 --> 01:22:12,840
Speaker 1: league in terms of contract extensions, including like six first

1673
01:22:12,920 --> 01:22:16,120
Speaker 1: rounders in the secondary. You've had Zimmer like if you

1674
01:22:16,160 --> 01:22:19,080
Speaker 1: can't win this game at home against La Fleur in

1675
01:22:19,120 --> 01:22:21,240
Speaker 1: his first year and a little bit of an uneven

1676
01:22:21,240 --> 01:22:24,040
Speaker 1: Packers thing, that's like, what have you been doing building

1677
01:22:24,120 --> 01:22:26,600
Speaker 1: up this group? And great continuity? It's so hard to

1678
01:22:26,640 --> 01:22:30,479
Speaker 1: have the continuity that they've had. This defense has choked

1679
01:22:30,520 --> 01:22:33,519
Speaker 1: more times than Kirk Cousins. We always think they're a

1680
01:22:33,520 --> 01:22:36,080
Speaker 1: great defense, and they end up being a pretty good defense,

1681
01:22:36,840 --> 01:22:39,200
Speaker 1: so it's a fair call. The matchups in this game

1682
01:22:39,439 --> 01:22:42,880
Speaker 1: are pretty great. I mean Eric Kendricks against Aaron Jones,

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01:22:43,280 --> 01:22:45,479
Speaker 1: like trying to prevent him from getting to the outside,

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01:22:45,479 --> 01:22:48,599
Speaker 1: also might be covering him. Sometimes you got Daniel Hunter

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01:22:48,680 --> 01:22:52,640
Speaker 1: and Everson Griffin against Bulagan Baktier like there. I don't know,

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01:22:52,680 --> 01:22:56,800
Speaker 1: it's a great game. Feeling out physically right now, he

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01:22:56,960 --> 01:22:59,920
Speaker 1: played a full three target last week he played thirty

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01:23:00,000 --> 01:23:06,000
Speaker 1: three three catches on three targets. Um, So at this

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01:23:06,040 --> 01:23:08,000
Speaker 1: point it seems like they're easing them back in. But

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01:23:08,080 --> 01:23:12,280
Speaker 1: Digs is really stepped up and and become an even

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01:23:12,360 --> 01:23:16,439
Speaker 1: better producer with dealing out, which makes sense. Um, are

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01:23:16,479 --> 01:23:21,160
Speaker 1: any of us picking the Packers in this game? I

1693
01:23:21,240 --> 01:23:24,880
Speaker 1: almost wanted to lock up the Packers. That's because I

1694
01:23:24,880 --> 01:23:27,080
Speaker 1: don't try. I don't trust the Vikings, but I have to.

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01:23:27,120 --> 01:23:29,360
Speaker 1: I go too far with my lack of trust to

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01:23:29,400 --> 01:23:31,080
Speaker 1: the Vikings, and then I get caught in that kind

1697
01:23:31,080 --> 01:23:33,320
Speaker 1: of thing and I'll lose my lock too. So it's like,

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01:23:33,400 --> 01:23:36,599
Speaker 1: you know, either way, are we going to watch this together?

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01:23:37,600 --> 01:23:42,360
Speaker 1: We're doing this at there we are, you know, doing

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01:23:42,400 --> 01:23:45,840
Speaker 1: a post Monday night football show which is out of

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01:23:45,840 --> 01:23:48,360
Speaker 1: the ordinary. That will be like our Tuesday show with

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01:23:48,400 --> 01:23:50,200
Speaker 1: maybe a little news to talk about the game and

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01:23:50,240 --> 01:23:53,800
Speaker 1: some news out of the ordinary holiday maybe too much.

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01:23:53,840 --> 01:23:56,439
Speaker 1: But we haven't we haven't watched a full game like

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01:23:56,479 --> 01:23:59,080
Speaker 1: that together, like in one of these little spots on

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01:23:59,479 --> 01:24:03,240
Speaker 1: It's It's full circle. I mean every Sunday night too.

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01:24:03,240 --> 01:24:05,439
Speaker 1: But I see what you mean as a outside of

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01:24:05,439 --> 01:24:09,479
Speaker 1: the building and you know, Wes go make some place

1709
01:24:09,520 --> 01:24:12,439
Speaker 1: kirk Cousins in a big spot here, right. Oh, I agree,

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01:24:12,520 --> 01:24:14,439
Speaker 1: I think, But I think you and I have more

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01:24:14,479 --> 01:24:17,400
Speaker 1: common ground on this thing. You believe now, I think

1712
01:24:17,439 --> 01:24:21,320
Speaker 1: that when when he plays poorly, it's fair game talk

1713
01:24:21,360 --> 01:24:24,880
Speaker 1: about it on national TV. But when he's not much

1714
01:24:24,880 --> 01:24:26,559
Speaker 1: of a factor in the game, let's talk about the

1715
01:24:26,600 --> 01:24:29,640
Speaker 1: factors in the game. Are Are you concerned, Mark, just

1716
01:24:29,760 --> 01:24:31,320
Speaker 1: being on the outside of this that we're going to

1717
01:24:31,400 --> 01:24:34,879
Speaker 1: be watching this game together at Dan's and the Western

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01:24:35,280 --> 01:24:38,360
Speaker 1: Dan kirk Cousins heat just might be uncomfortable. Yeah, I mean,

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01:24:39,160 --> 01:24:40,800
Speaker 1: I didn't realize. I thought I was going to be

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01:24:40,800 --> 01:24:44,080
Speaker 1: because of the attention rolling in Justice. The game was ending,

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01:24:44,120 --> 01:24:46,720
Speaker 1: as I've done for these post games. But that's that's

1722
01:24:46,760 --> 01:24:49,200
Speaker 1: a lot to Uh. It's the holiday season and you're allowed.

1723
01:24:49,240 --> 01:24:50,760
Speaker 1: I mean, you have a family, You do what you

1724
01:24:50,760 --> 01:24:53,000
Speaker 1: need to do. I think after we finished recording to

1725
01:24:53,160 --> 01:24:57,040
Speaker 1: maybe we hang out together, spent some time Mark TBD,

1726
01:24:57,600 --> 01:24:59,320
Speaker 1: we look over just like a cloud of smoke at

1727
01:24:59,320 --> 01:25:02,080
Speaker 1: Mark's goner, and that is that narrative is false, and

1728
01:25:02,080 --> 01:25:04,439
Speaker 1: I will prove it false. But yeah, let's let's see

1729
01:25:04,439 --> 01:25:07,439
Speaker 1: if he'll play Cornell. Let's try to get if you

1730
01:25:07,479 --> 01:25:09,960
Speaker 1: do we do something that I actually he's been consistently

1731
01:25:10,040 --> 01:25:14,160
Speaker 1: anti parlor games since So that's your that's your offer.

1732
01:25:14,600 --> 01:25:16,120
Speaker 1: We have to come up with something else. We're gonna

1733
01:25:16,120 --> 01:25:18,439
Speaker 1: come up with something more enticing. But give us time,

1734
01:25:18,840 --> 01:25:21,040
Speaker 1: give us the weekend to think until Monday night. How

1735
01:25:21,080 --> 01:25:24,639
Speaker 1: about we break after the game, after the podcast Phantom

1736
01:25:24,680 --> 01:25:29,080
Speaker 1: Menace yikes, never like that's where the Kirk Cousins thing like,

1737
01:25:29,160 --> 01:25:31,880
Speaker 1: I've never I'm not never supporting That movie is coming

1738
01:25:31,880 --> 01:25:35,519
Speaker 1: out this evening. You got a ticket, just say yes

1739
01:25:35,880 --> 01:25:37,960
Speaker 1: to pretend you don't. I'm not pretending I don't, but

1740
01:25:38,000 --> 01:25:40,479
Speaker 1: I don't. But I'm also I am now looking at

1741
01:25:40,520 --> 01:25:43,040
Speaker 1: that there's nine of those movies and I would say

1742
01:25:43,080 --> 01:25:46,280
Speaker 1: that seven of them get lower than a B or

1743
01:25:46,320 --> 01:25:48,360
Speaker 1: eight six of them get lower than to be in

1744
01:25:48,360 --> 01:25:51,439
Speaker 1: my book, the reviews have not been great one. This

1745
01:25:51,479 --> 01:25:53,400
Speaker 1: one is the final one. It's called The Rise of

1746
01:25:53,439 --> 01:25:56,240
Speaker 1: Skywalker and I and the reviews are at best. If

1747
01:25:56,240 --> 01:25:57,880
Speaker 1: he and I don't and that's what I'm going to was,

1748
01:25:58,080 --> 01:25:59,680
Speaker 1: I'm just gonna go watch it and then go home.

1749
01:26:00,200 --> 01:26:01,679
Speaker 1: You know they have they made a good one since

1750
01:26:02,600 --> 01:26:05,920
Speaker 1: no that well since the end of our childhood ones.

1751
01:26:05,960 --> 01:26:07,960
Speaker 1: That's and I've been saying that consistently, the same way

1752
01:26:07,960 --> 01:26:09,880
Speaker 1: I told you the Browns were gonna drop a big

1753
01:26:09,920 --> 01:26:12,040
Speaker 1: egg and all these things that you think are gonna

1754
01:26:12,320 --> 01:26:14,960
Speaker 1: meet up to your child You didations well not you

1755
01:26:15,040 --> 01:26:17,400
Speaker 1: did you know, predict them to win the Super Bowl

1756
01:26:17,439 --> 01:26:20,479
Speaker 1: in anything? But that was that was in a moment

1757
01:26:20,640 --> 01:26:22,759
Speaker 1: that wasn't like my fault. Well, now he's on Seahawks

1758
01:26:22,760 --> 01:26:26,720
Speaker 1: corners written on NFL dot com. I believe still there

1759
01:26:26,760 --> 01:26:29,160
Speaker 1: yea more than a moment. I know how to get

1760
01:26:29,200 --> 01:26:32,120
Speaker 1: into the CMS system where you can quickly erase those

1761
01:26:32,160 --> 01:26:35,160
Speaker 1: artis you're one of three analysts to pick the Browns

1762
01:26:35,200 --> 01:26:38,799
Speaker 1: to win the Super Bowl, and men m Blira Browns

1763
01:26:38,840 --> 01:26:42,599
Speaker 1: fan and Joe Thomas obviously with overt links to the Browns.

1764
01:26:42,680 --> 01:26:46,519
Speaker 1: We were just we were upping our people would say,

1765
01:26:46,560 --> 01:26:48,599
Speaker 1: this is where you see like they have different rules

1766
01:26:48,640 --> 01:26:53,759
Speaker 1: for different you know, players in different levels of of stature.

1767
01:26:53,880 --> 01:26:56,240
Speaker 1: It's like they're not gonna bring Tom Blair and Mark

1768
01:26:56,280 --> 01:26:59,120
Speaker 1: back next year. But Joe Thomas, well, it was because

1769
01:26:59,120 --> 01:27:04,200
Speaker 1: of this prediction that went um all right, Oh, I

1770
01:27:04,280 --> 01:27:06,760
Speaker 1: have a an announcement, as we teased by the way,

1771
01:27:06,800 --> 01:27:10,160
Speaker 1: at the Erica did really good v O work at

1772
01:27:10,160 --> 01:27:14,200
Speaker 1: the beginning of our Tuesday episode. Uh, we will be

1773
01:27:14,400 --> 01:27:17,400
Speaker 1: as you know, we have our listen to music so

1774
01:27:18,040 --> 01:27:22,040
Speaker 1: fitting our live show. Uh in at the Super Bowl

1775
01:27:22,080 --> 01:27:23,720
Speaker 1: we do it. It's a new tradition. We did it

1776
01:27:23,800 --> 01:27:26,160
Speaker 1: last year in Atlanta and we had a great time.

1777
01:27:26,360 --> 01:27:30,080
Speaker 1: We're gonna do it again, uh this year in Miami

1778
01:27:30,120 --> 01:27:35,400
Speaker 1: at the Miami Improv Around the NFL Podcast live show

1779
01:27:35,400 --> 01:27:40,400
Speaker 1: on the Thursday night before Super Bowl fifty four. It's

1780
01:27:40,439 --> 01:27:42,599
Speaker 1: gonna be a lot of fun, the four of us,

1781
01:27:43,080 --> 01:27:47,720
Speaker 1: Ricky chopping it up and with an audience there and liquor. Oh,

1782
01:27:47,880 --> 01:27:51,599
Speaker 1: the liquor is all available to you as well at

1783
01:27:51,600 --> 01:27:55,280
Speaker 1: a charge. But what's better than watching the heroes and

1784
01:27:55,360 --> 01:27:57,439
Speaker 1: we're all together. And after the show, of course we'll

1785
01:27:57,600 --> 01:28:00,320
Speaker 1: h you know, chat with the fans. So join, So

1786
01:28:00,400 --> 01:28:03,880
Speaker 1: attend a live podcast taping at super Bowl fifty four.

1787
01:28:04,000 --> 01:28:06,800
Speaker 1: Check the link and the bio on our a t

1788
01:28:07,040 --> 01:28:10,200
Speaker 1: N Instagram page. You'll find the link to go get

1789
01:28:10,200 --> 01:28:15,080
Speaker 1: tickets at the Miami Improv Thursday night before Super Bowl.

1790
01:28:15,680 --> 01:28:18,599
Speaker 1: Nailed it, Dan. It's also on the Miami Improv website.

1791
01:28:18,640 --> 01:28:22,240
Speaker 1: So if you don't have Instagram, well get with the time.

1792
01:28:22,280 --> 01:28:24,240
Speaker 1: I have them, and that's part of my bookmarks on

1793
01:28:24,320 --> 01:28:26,759
Speaker 1: your like that Improvised Theater has been in my bookmarks

1794
01:28:26,760 --> 01:28:30,080
Speaker 1: for years, so you could google it that. Now we're

1795
01:28:30,120 --> 01:28:32,160
Speaker 1: we're live all over. I just tweeted it. I mean

1796
01:28:32,160 --> 01:28:35,439
Speaker 1: every everybody, it's it's everywhere cool. Get your tickets. Uh,

1797
01:28:35,479 --> 01:28:40,920
Speaker 1: they won't last, according to people with knowledge of the situation. Great,

1798
01:28:41,360 --> 01:28:44,280
Speaker 1: I trust those services all right, implicitly. All right, that's

1799
01:28:44,320 --> 01:28:45,920
Speaker 1: it for today's show. The next time you hear from

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01:28:46,000 --> 01:28:48,640
Speaker 1: us will be Sunday night, where we recap all the

1801
01:28:48,640 --> 01:28:51,839
Speaker 1: games we just previewed. Thank you to everyone as always

1802
01:28:51,880 --> 01:28:55,800
Speaker 1: for listening and continuing to support the show. We love you. Uh.

1803
01:28:55,840 --> 01:28:59,200
Speaker 1: This is Dan hands is signing off four Quiet Storm,

1804
01:28:59,240 --> 01:29:06,639
Speaker 1: the Mailman, the Old Boss, r Hollywood, behind the Glass,

1805
01:29:07,000 --> 01:30:20,480
Speaker 1: the whole gang, Christie Bartlett Rady zachtell Sunday