1 00:00:03,720 --> 00:00:09,160 Speaker 1: It's that time time time, luck and load. 2 00:00:11,039 --> 00:00:13,680 Speaker 2: So Michael Arry Show is on the air. 3 00:00:22,160 --> 00:00:24,760 Speaker 1: So in general the Great State of Texas, Ken Paxton 4 00:00:24,880 --> 00:00:28,760 Speaker 1: is our guest, uh General Paxton. Earlier we had Congressman 5 00:00:28,880 --> 00:00:31,040 Speaker 1: Wesley Hunt on the show. And I will start with 6 00:00:31,080 --> 00:00:34,480 Speaker 1: the same type of questions to keep it relatively consistent. 7 00:00:35,240 --> 00:00:39,559 Speaker 1: Concerning middle names, you were born Warren Kenneth Paxton Junior. 8 00:00:40,400 --> 00:00:43,839 Speaker 1: And I'm curious why you didn't stick with Warren that. 9 00:00:45,520 --> 00:00:47,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, my dad, my father went by Warren, so I 10 00:00:48,080 --> 00:00:51,880 Speaker 3: didn't really choose that. It just happened with my parents. 11 00:00:52,479 --> 00:00:53,240 Speaker 2: Were you ever. 12 00:00:55,120 --> 00:00:57,920 Speaker 3: No, Oh, it was actually younger and my cousins still 13 00:00:57,960 --> 00:01:01,440 Speaker 3: call me it's Kenny and where I don't like these 14 00:01:01,440 --> 00:01:05,840 Speaker 3: words transitions, but I transitioned to Ken. But yeah, it 15 00:01:05,880 --> 00:01:08,679 Speaker 3: was from like, I don't remember ever being called Warren 16 00:01:08,840 --> 00:01:11,760 Speaker 3: unless my mother was mad at me Warren. 17 00:01:13,000 --> 00:01:17,039 Speaker 1: I will stick with the theme of the big story 18 00:01:17,080 --> 00:01:19,960 Speaker 1: of the day, the ice agent, the woman trying to 19 00:01:20,040 --> 00:01:24,080 Speaker 1: kill him in her in her vehicle in Minnesota. 20 00:01:24,120 --> 00:01:29,160 Speaker 3: Your thoughts, look, I think when when something like that happens, 21 00:01:29,200 --> 00:01:31,280 Speaker 3: these ice agents have to defend themselves, they have to 22 00:01:31,280 --> 00:01:35,000 Speaker 3: protect other people. I applaud them for doing that. What 23 00:01:35,080 --> 00:01:39,080 Speaker 3: she was doing was absolutely wrong and crazy, and the 24 00:01:39,120 --> 00:01:40,440 Speaker 3: consequences are there for her. 25 00:01:42,959 --> 00:01:47,280 Speaker 1: Our federal agents, our law enforcement generally have not received 26 00:01:47,560 --> 00:01:52,560 Speaker 1: the support of our politicians, our media, our cultural leaders. 27 00:01:52,560 --> 00:01:54,560 Speaker 2: And I think that is unfair. I think he's wrong. 28 00:01:54,600 --> 00:01:56,920 Speaker 1: I think it's bad for public safety. Your thoughts as 29 00:01:56,960 --> 00:01:58,640 Speaker 1: a future US senator? 30 00:01:59,320 --> 00:02:01,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think that spend true of many cities, even 31 00:02:01,800 --> 00:02:03,400 Speaker 3: I mean like in the city of Austin, where I 32 00:02:03,480 --> 00:02:06,480 Speaker 3: spend a lot of time, where my offices are. You know, 33 00:02:06,520 --> 00:02:09,440 Speaker 3: they defunded the police, took away a third of their funding, 34 00:02:09,880 --> 00:02:12,000 Speaker 3: made it much more difficult for them to go after crime. 35 00:02:12,000 --> 00:02:13,520 Speaker 3: And of course you have a DA there that doesn't 36 00:02:13,520 --> 00:02:17,720 Speaker 3: really prosecute crime anyway, pushed by George Soros. And then, 37 00:02:17,760 --> 00:02:20,600 Speaker 3: of course, you know, our ice agents were co opted 38 00:02:21,320 --> 00:02:24,000 Speaker 3: for four years by the Biden administration and instead of 39 00:02:24,120 --> 00:02:27,360 Speaker 3: enforcing federal immigration laws, they were told not to and 40 00:02:27,360 --> 00:02:30,920 Speaker 3: they were told to help the cartels get illegals here 41 00:02:31,000 --> 00:02:36,399 Speaker 3: as quickly and expeditiously as possible. Completely unconstitutional, wrong, which 42 00:02:36,440 --> 00:02:39,360 Speaker 3: is why I had so many lawsuits against the Biden administration. 43 00:02:39,440 --> 00:02:45,160 Speaker 3: But it's unfortunate that the last seemingly does not support 44 00:02:45,560 --> 00:02:48,800 Speaker 3: law enforcement and does not support the enforcement of our 45 00:02:48,880 --> 00:02:52,359 Speaker 3: laws and the protection of our people, and they encourage lawlessness. 46 00:02:53,720 --> 00:02:56,760 Speaker 1: You have been the most active Attorney General in my 47 00:02:56,919 --> 00:03:03,200 Speaker 1: lifetime at bringing cases against guys, and I think this 48 00:03:03,560 --> 00:03:04,080 Speaker 1: just broke. 49 00:03:04,240 --> 00:03:04,960 Speaker 2: Did I see this. 50 00:03:05,040 --> 00:03:07,519 Speaker 1: I don't have a date on it, but Attorney General 51 00:03:07,600 --> 00:03:10,880 Speaker 1: kN packs and Secure's major agreement with Crest toothpaste manufacturer 52 00:03:10,919 --> 00:03:15,000 Speaker 1: to protect children from executive fluoride exposure one of these 53 00:03:15,040 --> 00:03:17,440 Speaker 1: I just looked a few minutes ago and just. 54 00:03:17,480 --> 00:03:21,280 Speaker 3: Come out that was today was we just released that 55 00:03:21,400 --> 00:03:22,880 Speaker 3: right before the show. A matter of fact, I've not 56 00:03:22,880 --> 00:03:25,280 Speaker 3: talked to anybody about that. We already had one with 57 00:03:25,360 --> 00:03:29,720 Speaker 3: Colgate in September, and the research shows that over exposure 58 00:03:29,760 --> 00:03:32,400 Speaker 3: to florid, especially for young kids all the way up 59 00:03:32,400 --> 00:03:36,600 Speaker 3: to age six, is dangerous to their metal development. In 60 00:03:36,680 --> 00:03:41,960 Speaker 3: knowing that research, these companies continued to advertise the use 61 00:03:42,000 --> 00:03:44,680 Speaker 3: of a large amount of toothpaste and therefore large amounts 62 00:03:44,680 --> 00:03:48,600 Speaker 3: of fluoride, And so we started investigations of those companies, 63 00:03:48,600 --> 00:03:51,440 Speaker 3: Colgate and Crest, and we got an agreement from Colgate 64 00:03:52,840 --> 00:03:55,040 Speaker 3: back in September, and now we've got an agreement from 65 00:03:55,120 --> 00:04:01,000 Speaker 3: Crest to stop advertising large uses or uses that are 66 00:04:01,360 --> 00:04:05,600 Speaker 3: too great for young kids so that they'll be safe. Obviously, 67 00:04:05,720 --> 00:04:07,400 Speaker 3: you want to protect your teeth. At the same time, 68 00:04:07,480 --> 00:04:09,480 Speaker 3: you don't want to overuse something that can be harmful 69 00:04:09,560 --> 00:04:12,360 Speaker 3: to development view yeaes. 70 00:04:12,760 --> 00:04:18,200 Speaker 1: The Trump administration, particularly Health Secretary Robert Kennedy, has been 71 00:04:18,320 --> 00:04:20,720 Speaker 1: very clear on that what started as a conspiracy there, 72 00:04:20,760 --> 00:04:22,640 Speaker 1: like most other things, has turned out to be based 73 00:04:22,640 --> 00:04:26,279 Speaker 1: in science and fact. December seventeenth, you said I secured 74 00:04:26,440 --> 00:04:30,640 Speaker 1: a court order stopping a CCP aligned smart TV company 75 00:04:30,640 --> 00:04:34,640 Speaker 1: from spying on Texans. The days of Chinese tech companies 76 00:04:34,640 --> 00:04:37,000 Speaker 1: spying on America's televisions are over. 77 00:04:39,720 --> 00:04:43,560 Speaker 3: Yes, so that was high sense. It's a Chinese television manufacturer. 78 00:04:43,600 --> 00:04:47,039 Speaker 3: There's another one, TCL that we sued. There's three other 79 00:04:47,200 --> 00:04:51,400 Speaker 3: from other places, I think, namely South Korea that we 80 00:04:51,440 --> 00:04:55,040 Speaker 3: sued to stop them because they record, like every five 81 00:04:55,160 --> 00:04:58,679 Speaker 3: hundred milliseconds, They record and take note of what you're watching, 82 00:04:59,200 --> 00:05:02,360 Speaker 3: and then they use it information without your consent or knowledge. 83 00:05:02,560 --> 00:05:07,120 Speaker 3: They sell that information to whoever wants that information. What 84 00:05:07,160 --> 00:05:09,400 Speaker 3: we argue in the lawsuit is that they have an 85 00:05:09,400 --> 00:05:12,360 Speaker 3: obligation if they're going to record that information, they have 86 00:05:12,400 --> 00:05:16,080 Speaker 3: an obligation one to disclose that and to provide a 87 00:05:16,080 --> 00:05:18,400 Speaker 3: way out of it opt out. That is reasonable because 88 00:05:18,480 --> 00:05:21,279 Speaker 3: right now opting out is even if you knew, is 89 00:05:21,360 --> 00:05:25,200 Speaker 3: not an easy process. So that is our complaint, and 90 00:05:25,240 --> 00:05:27,880 Speaker 3: we feel like it's unfair to Texas consumers to not 91 00:05:28,120 --> 00:05:31,760 Speaker 3: know that everything they're watching is being recorded and sent 92 00:05:31,960 --> 00:05:35,200 Speaker 3: somewhere else around the world, even potentially to the Chinese, 93 00:05:35,320 --> 00:05:37,640 Speaker 3: likely to the Chinese a headline. 94 00:05:37,640 --> 00:05:41,159 Speaker 1: Attorney General Ken Paxton detains fifty illegal aliens in raids 95 00:05:41,200 --> 00:05:44,680 Speaker 1: throughout the Houston area the Texas Office of the Attorney 96 00:05:44,680 --> 00:05:49,040 Speaker 1: General's Criminal Investigation Division. Attorney General Paxton became the first 97 00:05:49,160 --> 00:05:52,560 Speaker 1: Texas law enforcement entity during President Trump's second term to 98 00:05:52,600 --> 00:05:55,479 Speaker 1: sign a two eighty seven g agreement which enabled the 99 00:05:55,520 --> 00:05:58,800 Speaker 1: Office of the Attorney General to formally assess with and 100 00:05:58,880 --> 00:06:03,960 Speaker 1: facilitate the master deportation of illegal aliens. 101 00:06:04,279 --> 00:06:06,360 Speaker 2: I think you led the charge on that issue. 102 00:06:06,760 --> 00:06:08,240 Speaker 3: Yes, we did. As matter of fact, when I was 103 00:06:08,240 --> 00:06:10,240 Speaker 3: in the Texas House, I was trying to pass the 104 00:06:10,320 --> 00:06:13,760 Speaker 3: legislation that allowed the state to do that in conjunction 105 00:06:13,800 --> 00:06:18,160 Speaker 3: with the Sedtle government, so that we could maximize enforcement 106 00:06:18,240 --> 00:06:21,720 Speaker 3: of our immigration laws because clearly there are never going 107 00:06:21,760 --> 00:06:24,880 Speaker 3: to be enough agents in federal or state. So by 108 00:06:24,920 --> 00:06:27,600 Speaker 3: adding our little two hundred and twenty five or so 109 00:06:27,720 --> 00:06:30,039 Speaker 3: law enforcement agents, when they're out doing their jobs and 110 00:06:30,040 --> 00:06:32,960 Speaker 3: they find that somebody is here illegally, we can now 111 00:06:33,240 --> 00:06:36,039 Speaker 3: in conjunction with the federal government, turn them over and 112 00:06:36,160 --> 00:06:38,760 Speaker 3: have them deport it. So we're a force multiplier for 113 00:06:38,839 --> 00:06:42,760 Speaker 3: the Trump administration and enforcing immigration laws, which is exactly 114 00:06:42,839 --> 00:06:44,799 Speaker 3: the opposite of what the Biden administration was doing. 115 00:06:45,240 --> 00:06:48,720 Speaker 1: And a reminder for anyone who doesn't remember that John 116 00:06:48,760 --> 00:06:50,800 Speaker 1: Cornyn was once the attorney general of the state of 117 00:06:50,839 --> 00:06:55,039 Speaker 1: Texas and never did such things. In fact, when I 118 00:06:55,080 --> 00:06:58,039 Speaker 1: say that Paxton is the most active attorney general in 119 00:06:58,080 --> 00:07:02,160 Speaker 1: my lifetime, that includes Greg Abbott, that includes John Cornyn 120 00:07:02,279 --> 00:07:06,280 Speaker 1: before him, John Cornyn was not such an active attorney general. 121 00:07:06,320 --> 00:07:09,279 Speaker 1: He was securing funds to run for the United States Senate, 122 00:07:09,400 --> 00:07:16,880 Speaker 1: not doing his job. You have upset the Republican establishment, 123 00:07:16,920 --> 00:07:20,280 Speaker 1: the Karl Robes. You defeated a Bush in a campaign 124 00:07:20,440 --> 00:07:24,240 Speaker 1: you ran for speaker when the other candidate had the 125 00:07:24,560 --> 00:07:25,680 Speaker 1: Democrats support. 126 00:07:27,720 --> 00:07:29,080 Speaker 2: You have offended. 127 00:07:28,600 --> 00:07:33,360 Speaker 1: The TLR crowd. You have offended the establishment crowd. You've 128 00:07:33,360 --> 00:07:36,520 Speaker 1: offended the Bush crowd. And in so doing, I think 129 00:07:36,520 --> 00:07:39,880 Speaker 1: a lot of the base has recognized exactly what is 130 00:07:39,960 --> 00:07:43,080 Speaker 1: going on. It's going to be very interesting to see 131 00:07:43,360 --> 00:07:48,200 Speaker 1: how this plays out because Cornyn has that established money 132 00:07:48,320 --> 00:07:52,160 Speaker 1: and he has that establishment support, and you have always 133 00:07:52,160 --> 00:07:55,600 Speaker 1: been the outsider that the only people that were for 134 00:07:55,680 --> 00:07:59,120 Speaker 1: you were voters in everyday Texans. 135 00:07:59,120 --> 00:08:01,440 Speaker 2: And this is going to be the. 136 00:08:01,200 --> 00:08:04,200 Speaker 1: First pitched battle that we've seen with a challenger to 137 00:08:04,240 --> 00:08:09,880 Speaker 1: a rhino establishment sitting incumbent where the challenger and now too, 138 00:08:10,440 --> 00:08:13,440 Speaker 1: but where the challenger has name id and a track 139 00:08:13,560 --> 00:08:16,080 Speaker 1: record and some money. But it's going to be very fascinating. 140 00:08:16,120 --> 00:08:17,280 Speaker 1: Can you hold with us for just a moment? 141 00:08:17,920 --> 00:08:18,200 Speaker 3: Sure? 142 00:08:18,480 --> 00:08:20,760 Speaker 2: The Attorney General State of Texas, Kim Paxson is our guest. 143 00:08:20,800 --> 00:08:26,600 Speaker 3: Quinnans Flop Michael Berry Show. 144 00:08:28,160 --> 00:08:30,400 Speaker 2: The Attorney General Kim Paxton is our guest. 145 00:08:30,680 --> 00:08:34,400 Speaker 1: He is a candidate for the United States Senate along 146 00:08:34,440 --> 00:08:38,160 Speaker 1: with Wesley Hunt, the seat that is currently held by 147 00:08:38,480 --> 00:08:41,360 Speaker 1: John Cornyan, the incumbent for over twenty years, who was 148 00:08:41,440 --> 00:08:44,360 Speaker 1: running for reelection. I want to talk for a moment 149 00:08:44,480 --> 00:08:49,120 Speaker 1: about why the establishment went after you, and I've seen 150 00:08:49,160 --> 00:08:52,320 Speaker 1: it since you were back in the House and ran 151 00:08:52,360 --> 00:08:55,240 Speaker 1: for Speaker against the Speaker candidate that was supported by 152 00:08:55,240 --> 00:08:58,600 Speaker 1: all the Democrats. I've seen it in the Senate then 153 00:08:58,679 --> 00:09:00,880 Speaker 1: you where you dared run again and star candidate. I've 154 00:09:00,920 --> 00:09:03,160 Speaker 1: seen it in the Attorney General's race where you dared 155 00:09:04,160 --> 00:09:08,040 Speaker 1: run against a Bush family member and Karl Rove got 156 00:09:08,160 --> 00:09:08,800 Speaker 1: very involved. 157 00:09:09,240 --> 00:09:11,320 Speaker 2: And now I'm seeing it in this Senate race. 158 00:09:11,400 --> 00:09:15,160 Speaker 1: I traced the same names, the same interest the same rhinos, 159 00:09:15,200 --> 00:09:18,559 Speaker 1: the same establishments, the same tactics through it all. 160 00:09:20,920 --> 00:09:23,520 Speaker 3: No, it's it's absolutely true. And we saw that even 161 00:09:23,600 --> 00:09:26,480 Speaker 3: in my impeachment. Carl Road was tied to that. TLR 162 00:09:26,640 --> 00:09:30,280 Speaker 3: was tied to that. They had people in my office 163 00:09:30,320 --> 00:09:33,520 Speaker 3: they were communicating with and worked with. They were tied 164 00:09:33,559 --> 00:09:37,000 Speaker 3: to the Biden administration. Even the Biden administration sent people, 165 00:09:37,080 --> 00:09:40,680 Speaker 3: you know, lawyers to help the Republicans to their impeachment. 166 00:09:40,840 --> 00:09:44,080 Speaker 3: So this was a it wasn't just the Republicans, also Democrats, 167 00:09:44,120 --> 00:09:48,040 Speaker 3: and they were all aligned. Obviously had had different interests. 168 00:09:48,040 --> 00:09:50,280 Speaker 3: I was suiting the Biden administration, you know, two or 169 00:09:50,320 --> 00:09:54,839 Speaker 3: three times a month, and obviously the Carl Rove and 170 00:09:54,840 --> 00:09:57,920 Speaker 3: the Bushes had other plans for the first age race 171 00:09:58,040 --> 00:10:01,079 Speaker 3: against Tan Branch, who very close ally of col Road, 172 00:10:01,400 --> 00:10:03,880 Speaker 3: and George Bush. But also then of course they ran 173 00:10:03,960 --> 00:10:07,880 Speaker 3: George P. Bush against me. So it's kind of shocking 174 00:10:07,920 --> 00:10:09,640 Speaker 3: to me because I spent a lot of my time 175 00:10:09,880 --> 00:10:12,960 Speaker 3: helping raise money and working for campaigns for the Bushes, 176 00:10:13,000 --> 00:10:16,400 Speaker 3: both the father and George w And it was shocking 177 00:10:16,440 --> 00:10:20,439 Speaker 3: to me to find such resistance and really the use 178 00:10:20,520 --> 00:10:22,600 Speaker 3: of the legal system to try to take me out 179 00:10:22,640 --> 00:10:24,080 Speaker 3: when they couldn't win at the ballot box. 180 00:10:25,559 --> 00:10:30,640 Speaker 1: Well drunk dates, not in the state House, not leaving 181 00:10:30,679 --> 00:10:31,679 Speaker 1: the state House anymore. 182 00:10:31,720 --> 00:10:34,959 Speaker 2: So I guess there is justice to all of this. 183 00:10:35,920 --> 00:10:38,840 Speaker 1: One of the cases you brought, I'll look at the headline, 184 00:10:39,200 --> 00:10:43,679 Speaker 1: Paxton lawsuit against East Plano Islamic Center, EPIC and the 185 00:10:43,800 --> 00:10:47,800 Speaker 1: Meadow Project formerly Epic City. You have said that is 186 00:10:47,880 --> 00:10:51,599 Speaker 1: about violations of the law, not religious differences. 187 00:10:51,679 --> 00:10:52,400 Speaker 2: What happened there. 188 00:10:53,679 --> 00:10:57,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, So we're still we sued them over security law 189 00:10:57,880 --> 00:11:00,360 Speaker 3: violations because we believe that they violated both state and 190 00:11:00,559 --> 00:11:05,120 Speaker 3: federal security laws. And so we're in the middle of 191 00:11:05,160 --> 00:11:09,400 Speaker 3: that lawsuit. It hasn't progressed past filing. We haven't really 192 00:11:09,480 --> 00:11:12,440 Speaker 3: had any significant hearing yet, but we are on course 193 00:11:12,640 --> 00:11:16,600 Speaker 3: to stop them from continuing to operate outside the law. 194 00:11:16,600 --> 00:11:19,040 Speaker 3: And as you said, we are a First Amendment country, 195 00:11:19,160 --> 00:11:21,080 Speaker 3: but we are not a Shuria law country. And there 196 00:11:21,960 --> 00:11:24,960 Speaker 3: is a distinction between defending First Amendment rights to free 197 00:11:25,000 --> 00:11:30,839 Speaker 3: speech and religious liberty and imposing or pushing another set 198 00:11:30,880 --> 00:11:34,320 Speaker 3: of laws outside of state and federal and constitutional laws. 199 00:11:35,720 --> 00:11:40,360 Speaker 1: You sued and won a settlement with Meta, which is Facebook, 200 00:11:40,400 --> 00:11:43,840 Speaker 1: for one point four billion dollars. They agreed to pay 201 00:11:43,880 --> 00:11:47,760 Speaker 1: the State of Texas the taxpayers for unlawfully capturing and 202 00:11:47,920 --> 00:11:50,840 Speaker 1: using biometric data facial recognition. 203 00:11:53,480 --> 00:11:56,480 Speaker 3: Yes, it was a it's actually a lawsuit that I 204 00:11:56,600 --> 00:11:59,480 Speaker 3: brought to my office. I've seen it. I knew that 205 00:11:59,520 --> 00:12:02,559 Speaker 3: we had a pretty strong state law that prevented them 206 00:12:02,640 --> 00:12:06,560 Speaker 3: from stealing our faces without our consent and then also 207 00:12:06,800 --> 00:12:10,360 Speaker 3: retaining that information and selling that information. And clearly Meta 208 00:12:11,280 --> 00:12:14,520 Speaker 3: violated those laws. And so it was a complicated case. 209 00:12:14,760 --> 00:12:16,040 Speaker 3: It took a lot of money because you have to 210 00:12:16,160 --> 00:12:19,559 Speaker 3: hire a lot of experts, and it's a complicated sort 211 00:12:19,600 --> 00:12:22,599 Speaker 3: of legal and financial structure. But we were able to 212 00:12:22,600 --> 00:12:26,000 Speaker 3: successfully after a couple of years, settle with them because 213 00:12:26,040 --> 00:12:28,160 Speaker 3: it was clear and they knew it that they had 214 00:12:28,200 --> 00:12:31,120 Speaker 3: violated our state laws. And so yeah, the taxpayers of 215 00:12:31,240 --> 00:12:34,600 Speaker 3: text its benefited, and the legislature now has another one 216 00:12:34,640 --> 00:12:36,760 Speaker 3: point four billion dollars that they could use to benefit 217 00:12:36,880 --> 00:12:37,680 Speaker 3: the state of Texas. 218 00:12:38,240 --> 00:12:41,839 Speaker 1: You had a record setting settlement for Google's violations of 219 00:12:42,000 --> 00:12:48,160 Speaker 1: Texan's data privacy rights, including unauthorized collection of our location data, 220 00:12:48,320 --> 00:12:52,920 Speaker 1: even when we opted out, one of the biggest data 221 00:12:52,960 --> 00:12:55,280 Speaker 1: privacy enforcements. It was called one of the biggest data 222 00:12:55,320 --> 00:12:57,880 Speaker 1: privacy enforcements by any single state. 223 00:12:58,040 --> 00:13:01,200 Speaker 2: One point three seven five billion in with Google. Does 224 00:13:01,240 --> 00:13:01,920 Speaker 2: that get their attention? 225 00:13:03,240 --> 00:13:06,040 Speaker 3: Yes, it does. They didn't want to go to trial 226 00:13:06,120 --> 00:13:08,880 Speaker 3: for sure, because you know, we have more discovery and 227 00:13:10,200 --> 00:13:13,880 Speaker 3: there's no doubt that they were taking information that they 228 00:13:14,040 --> 00:13:16,400 Speaker 3: promised that they wouldn't take, that they weren't tracking us 229 00:13:16,559 --> 00:13:19,439 Speaker 3: if you opted out, and they shouldn't have done anyway, 230 00:13:19,480 --> 00:13:22,000 Speaker 3: shouldn't you should have to opt in. But given that 231 00:13:22,080 --> 00:13:24,120 Speaker 3: you could opt out, and if you chose to opt out, 232 00:13:24,200 --> 00:13:28,000 Speaker 3: it still gathered your information. So it was a deceptive 233 00:13:28,040 --> 00:13:31,959 Speaker 3: trade practice. It was wrong, and I certainly I'm not 234 00:13:32,080 --> 00:13:36,040 Speaker 3: comfortable with these companies having my information without my permission 235 00:13:36,040 --> 00:13:39,280 Speaker 3: and then they use it for their advantages. They monetize it, 236 00:13:39,400 --> 00:13:42,000 Speaker 3: and they sell it, and they do it all without 237 00:13:42,040 --> 00:13:44,760 Speaker 3: your permission, and you don't benefit in any way. Actually, 238 00:13:45,120 --> 00:13:48,400 Speaker 3: it's to your detriment. Some of this information is information 239 00:13:48,559 --> 00:13:50,640 Speaker 3: you may not want sold. It may hurt you in 240 00:13:50,679 --> 00:13:52,719 Speaker 3: the future when you're trying to purchase health insurance or 241 00:13:52,760 --> 00:13:53,760 Speaker 3: car instructs. 242 00:13:54,720 --> 00:13:59,480 Speaker 1: A cumulative three point three four billion dollar opioid related settlement, 243 00:13:59,480 --> 00:14:03,880 Speaker 1: series of o opioid related settlements with major companies that 244 00:14:03,960 --> 00:14:06,360 Speaker 1: everyone knows who have preyed upon us, and I think 245 00:14:06,440 --> 00:14:08,640 Speaker 1: Fiser brought that to people's attention, but it's certainly not 246 00:14:08,760 --> 00:14:10,760 Speaker 1: the first. How did those come about? 247 00:14:11,880 --> 00:14:14,240 Speaker 3: Those? You know, we're probably I spent more time working 248 00:14:14,280 --> 00:14:18,600 Speaker 3: on opioids cases, both a manufacturer part of you. Spent 249 00:14:18,679 --> 00:14:20,920 Speaker 3: a lot of time in Cleveland, traveling the country, meeting 250 00:14:20,960 --> 00:14:23,920 Speaker 3: with ags and then trying to get an agreement among 251 00:14:24,040 --> 00:14:29,000 Speaker 3: fifty seven states and territories against the distributors, which were 252 00:14:29,040 --> 00:14:33,040 Speaker 3: are three major distributors. I actually led the sort of 253 00:14:33,160 --> 00:14:35,840 Speaker 3: negotiation to get that done. And it's quite a challenge 254 00:14:35,840 --> 00:14:38,480 Speaker 3: when you're trying to get fifty seven states and territories 255 00:14:38,520 --> 00:14:41,800 Speaker 3: to agree to their allocation, because every state thinks they 256 00:14:41,880 --> 00:14:46,240 Speaker 3: deserve more, including Texas, and so I spent a couple 257 00:14:46,240 --> 00:14:49,240 Speaker 3: of several years negotiating those and working with the leadership 258 00:14:49,280 --> 00:14:52,560 Speaker 3: team three Democrats and there were three Republicans, and we 259 00:14:52,680 --> 00:14:56,840 Speaker 3: got those done. And hopefully that money is going. It's 260 00:14:56,880 --> 00:14:59,600 Speaker 3: controlled out of controller and a committee. Hopefully that money 261 00:14:59,640 --> 00:15:01,640 Speaker 3: is going where I hope it would get, which is 262 00:15:01,720 --> 00:15:04,640 Speaker 3: to help deal with the opioid crisis. I've had too 263 00:15:04,720 --> 00:15:09,160 Speaker 3: many friends of ours lose their children, and it was 264 00:15:09,320 --> 00:15:11,320 Speaker 3: very personal to me to make sure that we got 265 00:15:11,400 --> 00:15:15,240 Speaker 3: money to help resolve and correct that situation so that 266 00:15:15,600 --> 00:15:16,840 Speaker 3: less of our children are dying. 267 00:15:18,200 --> 00:15:26,640 Speaker 1: I was a confirmed anti tort tort reform voter tort reform. 268 00:15:27,840 --> 00:15:30,640 Speaker 2: Proponent. I hated plaints attorneys. They were evil. 269 00:15:30,840 --> 00:15:34,360 Speaker 1: Lawsuit abuse was destroying our state MEDMU was destroying our 270 00:15:34,440 --> 00:15:38,920 Speaker 1: medical practices. Companies didn't want to open here, And as 271 00:15:39,040 --> 00:15:42,000 Speaker 1: often happens, the pendulum swung the wrong way, such that 272 00:15:42,080 --> 00:15:45,360 Speaker 1: I've had friends who have medical problems with the doctor's 273 00:15:45,440 --> 00:15:49,000 Speaker 1: caused and the payout is so little that lawyers won't 274 00:15:49,040 --> 00:15:52,440 Speaker 1: take them. I personally witnessed that that pendulum seems to 275 00:15:52,520 --> 00:15:55,880 Speaker 1: swing back and forth. But the anti plaintiffs lawyer or 276 00:15:55,960 --> 00:15:58,720 Speaker 1: the tort reform crowd seems to have come after you, 277 00:15:59,400 --> 00:16:01,880 Speaker 1: and I don't think think that we have achieved a balance. 278 00:16:02,040 --> 00:16:03,440 Speaker 1: How important is that in this race? 279 00:16:04,720 --> 00:16:08,240 Speaker 3: I think it's really important. You know, It's unfortunate because 280 00:16:08,280 --> 00:16:14,320 Speaker 3: I was, like you, I've voted to restrict recoveries to 281 00:16:14,440 --> 00:16:17,000 Speaker 3: lower balance, trying to balance out the interests of healthcare 282 00:16:17,080 --> 00:16:21,760 Speaker 3: access and costs with the concept of being able to 283 00:16:21,840 --> 00:16:24,280 Speaker 3: recover if you've been harmed and being able to recover 284 00:16:24,440 --> 00:16:27,080 Speaker 3: what you deserve to recover. So there's always a balance there, 285 00:16:27,640 --> 00:16:30,920 Speaker 3: and I've always struggled with it. But I think you're right. 286 00:16:31,040 --> 00:16:33,520 Speaker 3: We have been some of these instances, we have gone 287 00:16:33,560 --> 00:16:33,880 Speaker 3: too far. 288 00:16:34,320 --> 00:16:36,720 Speaker 2: Attorney General Ken Paxton, thank you for your town. 289 00:16:37,960 --> 00:16:38,240 Speaker 3: Thank you. 290 00:16:39,320 --> 00:16:41,000 Speaker 2: You know only smoke mister Biden. 291 00:16:43,320 --> 00:16:47,800 Speaker 1: The Michael Arry Show, Well, you heard from Ken Paxton, 292 00:16:47,840 --> 00:16:49,200 Speaker 1: you heard from Wesley Hunt. 293 00:16:49,400 --> 00:16:51,440 Speaker 2: You know who John Cornyan is. 294 00:16:51,560 --> 00:16:55,280 Speaker 1: If you have a thought on that race, but only 295 00:16:55,440 --> 00:16:59,200 Speaker 1: if it has changed your opinion. If you're a Hunt 296 00:16:59,320 --> 00:17:02,320 Speaker 1: Cornyn or voter who just wants to say you're a 297 00:17:02,400 --> 00:17:06,359 Speaker 1: Hunt Corner or Paxton voter, that doesn't really tell us 298 00:17:06,400 --> 00:17:09,600 Speaker 1: anything new. We have polls that reflect that if your 299 00:17:09,680 --> 00:17:13,600 Speaker 1: opinion has changed in any way, shape or form as 300 00:17:13,640 --> 00:17:16,520 Speaker 1: a result of something new, including those conversations you're welcome 301 00:17:16,520 --> 00:17:18,560 Speaker 1: to call us seven one three nine nine nine one 302 00:17:18,640 --> 00:17:24,040 Speaker 1: thousand seven one three nine nine nine one thousand. There's 303 00:17:24,080 --> 00:17:28,120 Speaker 1: a terrible case Baytown High School. When I first saw 304 00:17:28,200 --> 00:17:31,960 Speaker 1: the name of the victim, which is MEISMERM I S 305 00:17:32,440 --> 00:17:36,040 Speaker 1: E R, I thought, oh my goodness, that's not a 306 00:17:36,160 --> 00:17:39,399 Speaker 1: very common name. We have a big fan of the 307 00:17:39,440 --> 00:17:41,760 Speaker 1: show who we've gotten over the year's named Donnie Meismer. 308 00:17:41,880 --> 00:17:46,720 Speaker 1: He's a pipeline superintendent. He works out on the pipeline, 309 00:17:46,760 --> 00:17:49,320 Speaker 1: sleeps in his truck, works all day long, has a 310 00:17:49,359 --> 00:17:53,000 Speaker 1: little camper, sorry, sleeps in a little camper next to 311 00:17:53,080 --> 00:17:55,760 Speaker 1: the pipelines, and drives the pipeline. He is the real 312 00:17:56,000 --> 00:18:02,280 Speaker 1: deal landman except going to Dallas and meeting with the 313 00:18:02,320 --> 00:18:06,720 Speaker 1: boardroom and Andy Garcia and that whole lifestyle. He is 314 00:18:06,800 --> 00:18:09,000 Speaker 1: the guy that's actually out there on the pipeline. He'll 315 00:18:09,000 --> 00:18:12,240 Speaker 1: send me photos of pipe being lowered and raised, and 316 00:18:14,080 --> 00:18:18,160 Speaker 1: sand being put in and fluids and all these fascinating 317 00:18:18,280 --> 00:18:23,000 Speaker 1: things that they do to keep it all rolling. And 318 00:18:23,440 --> 00:18:26,600 Speaker 1: it's fascinating business. And it turns out it's his cousin's son, 319 00:18:27,760 --> 00:18:33,000 Speaker 1: and it's just so senseless, you know, It's so senseless. 320 00:18:34,400 --> 00:18:40,359 Speaker 1: I've always thought of teenage suicide, which is more common 321 00:18:40,400 --> 00:18:43,160 Speaker 1: than you realize, having had teenagers, that you know about 322 00:18:43,160 --> 00:18:45,000 Speaker 1: it because you live in fear of it. When you 323 00:18:45,080 --> 00:18:50,639 Speaker 1: hear these stories of some kid you knew, and the 324 00:18:50,760 --> 00:18:53,680 Speaker 1: thing that gets you is whatever has upset that kid 325 00:18:54,119 --> 00:18:59,040 Speaker 1: so much at fifteen or seventeen, If you can get 326 00:18:59,119 --> 00:19:02,200 Speaker 1: them through those few day they would look back on 327 00:19:02,320 --> 00:19:07,200 Speaker 1: that moment and laugh. Susie Smith broke up with me good. 328 00:19:07,480 --> 00:19:10,680 Speaker 1: I can't believe I was that upset? How many times? 329 00:19:10,720 --> 00:19:13,200 Speaker 1: How many things do you remember when you were that 330 00:19:13,320 --> 00:19:16,639 Speaker 1: age that were the most important thing in the world 331 00:19:17,000 --> 00:19:23,159 Speaker 1: at the time you were raging over it. Had some 332 00:19:23,240 --> 00:19:26,640 Speaker 1: folks over the other night, and Ramone brought his two 333 00:19:26,720 --> 00:19:29,440 Speaker 1: sons and they were playing in our backyard and they're 334 00:19:29,440 --> 00:19:31,880 Speaker 1: about twelve of us sitting around a fire, and we're 335 00:19:31,880 --> 00:19:35,600 Speaker 1: all smoking cigars and having drinks and talking and sharing stories, 336 00:19:35,640 --> 00:19:39,840 Speaker 1: and all of a sudden, his son July comes running 337 00:19:39,960 --> 00:19:43,320 Speaker 1: up his dad, my head and his head's bleeding, and 338 00:19:44,480 --> 00:19:49,200 Speaker 1: my head a rock fell, and it hit me and 339 00:19:49,359 --> 00:19:52,600 Speaker 1: Ramone with the discernment that only a father of two 340 00:19:52,680 --> 00:19:56,600 Speaker 1: boys can have glances at his younger brother who's actually 341 00:19:56,640 --> 00:20:00,240 Speaker 1: bigger though, looks at his younger brother Oliver and as 342 00:20:01,119 --> 00:20:04,439 Speaker 1: what happened, and he said, well, I did you. 343 00:20:04,520 --> 00:20:07,040 Speaker 2: Throw the rock? Well, I just I did. So the 344 00:20:07,119 --> 00:20:07,879 Speaker 2: older brother was. 345 00:20:07,880 --> 00:20:10,560 Speaker 1: Protecting the younger brother. He was coming to dad for 346 00:20:10,680 --> 00:20:13,440 Speaker 1: help because his head was busted open, blood was gushing out, 347 00:20:14,560 --> 00:20:16,240 Speaker 1: and he was trying to protect his younger brother. He 348 00:20:16,320 --> 00:20:18,040 Speaker 1: was basically just saying, Hey, I think I need some 349 00:20:18,160 --> 00:20:20,240 Speaker 1: help because it's blood gushing out of my head. 350 00:20:20,640 --> 00:20:21,120 Speaker 3: And a rock. 351 00:20:21,200 --> 00:20:22,800 Speaker 1: You need to know a rock hit it, so you 352 00:20:22,960 --> 00:20:24,560 Speaker 1: have the you know, you tell the docs, you know, 353 00:20:24,640 --> 00:20:26,000 Speaker 1: like you kill the snake to bring it in, we 354 00:20:26,119 --> 00:20:29,480 Speaker 1: know what kind of venom we're working with. And the 355 00:20:29,600 --> 00:20:34,119 Speaker 1: younger brother hadn't thought through his story yet, and he 356 00:20:34,800 --> 00:20:38,760 Speaker 1: was at that point in a world of hurt, and 357 00:20:39,160 --> 00:20:42,119 Speaker 1: at that moment, he felt like a guy that you 358 00:20:42,200 --> 00:20:46,080 Speaker 1: know that just got caught for murder. At that moment, 359 00:20:46,160 --> 00:20:50,320 Speaker 1: you are internalizing all of these emotions, and I just 360 00:20:50,400 --> 00:20:52,240 Speaker 1: think to myself, you know, you see a kid and 361 00:20:52,280 --> 00:20:54,639 Speaker 1: they're so set that they've gotten in trouble for this 362 00:20:54,760 --> 00:20:58,640 Speaker 1: or that, and at that moment, their little brain it's 363 00:20:58,720 --> 00:21:01,159 Speaker 1: not fully formed. It makes all the sense in the 364 00:21:01,240 --> 00:21:10,960 Speaker 1: world to take their life if you're a teenager. Andre 365 00:21:11,520 --> 00:21:16,760 Speaker 1: Matthews charged with murdering Andrew Meismer after a fight in 366 00:21:16,960 --> 00:21:21,400 Speaker 1: science class at Sterling High School in Beytown, a dispute 367 00:21:21,800 --> 00:21:24,000 Speaker 1: over a twenty one dollar vape pen. 368 00:21:26,400 --> 00:21:30,600 Speaker 2: Twenty one dollar vape pen. He took a. 369 00:21:32,920 --> 00:21:40,560 Speaker 1: Pen and stabbed it hard enough into Andrew Meismer's throat. 370 00:21:41,119 --> 00:21:44,520 Speaker 1: Obviously he hit an. 371 00:21:43,480 --> 00:21:45,000 Speaker 2: Artery, and. 372 00:21:47,720 --> 00:21:51,920 Speaker 1: Then he held him in a choke hold, which of 373 00:21:52,040 --> 00:21:56,760 Speaker 1: course probably increased the pressure and the blood continued to gush. 374 00:21:57,440 --> 00:22:02,800 Speaker 1: He has been denied bail and as part of the 375 00:22:03,359 --> 00:22:10,720 Speaker 1: proposition three changes. But we also know prosecutors have released 376 00:22:11,440 --> 00:22:15,399 Speaker 1: that the school disciplinary records show an escalating pattern of 377 00:22:15,520 --> 00:22:20,600 Speaker 1: troubling behavior, including a prior accident in which he incident 378 00:22:20,680 --> 00:22:24,720 Speaker 1: in which he allegedly brought a knife to school. And 379 00:22:24,840 --> 00:22:28,080 Speaker 1: it's another one of these cases where you see that 380 00:22:28,200 --> 00:22:33,320 Speaker 1: a kid is escalating. At each level, they're escalating, and 381 00:22:33,440 --> 00:22:37,720 Speaker 1: if it's not dealt with, if it's not stopped, if. 382 00:22:37,600 --> 00:22:38,560 Speaker 2: They don't learn. 383 00:22:40,000 --> 00:22:45,639 Speaker 1: Impulse control is very difficult for young men. Having been 384 00:22:45,720 --> 00:22:49,200 Speaker 1: a young man, impulse you know, as older men, you 385 00:22:49,240 --> 00:22:52,880 Speaker 1: sit around the fire and you brag about the fact 386 00:22:52,920 --> 00:22:55,240 Speaker 1: that some guy mouthed off to you, and you busted 387 00:22:55,280 --> 00:22:58,840 Speaker 1: his jaw. But hopefully there comes a point in your 388 00:22:58,880 --> 00:23:03,080 Speaker 1: life where you realize whatever that guy that Maltoff said, 389 00:23:04,680 --> 00:23:08,960 Speaker 1: you busting his jaw is probably not going to teach 390 00:23:09,040 --> 00:23:12,800 Speaker 1: him the lesson you'd like to teach him, and it's 391 00:23:12,920 --> 00:23:15,480 Speaker 1: very likely going to cause a series of problems. 392 00:23:15,800 --> 00:23:17,600 Speaker 2: And we had to coach football. 393 00:23:17,680 --> 00:23:19,680 Speaker 1: Coach at said he didn't like to pass the ball 394 00:23:19,680 --> 00:23:21,639 Speaker 1: because there are only three things that could happen, and 395 00:23:22,520 --> 00:23:26,000 Speaker 1: two of them were bad. Sorry, four things that can happened, 396 00:23:26,160 --> 00:23:29,440 Speaker 1: and three of them were bad. And it's kind of 397 00:23:29,480 --> 00:23:35,160 Speaker 1: the same deal. Either you get hurt, in which case 398 00:23:35,840 --> 00:23:40,520 Speaker 1: the slight he offended was a lot less than you 399 00:23:40,640 --> 00:23:42,200 Speaker 1: get in a whip, because this guy's a better fighter 400 00:23:42,200 --> 00:23:46,640 Speaker 1: than you expected, or you hurt him, which is better 401 00:23:46,640 --> 00:23:49,720 Speaker 1: than him hurting you. But it might lead to some 402 00:23:49,840 --> 00:23:53,560 Speaker 1: serious problems, which comes to number three, which is the 403 00:23:53,680 --> 00:23:57,159 Speaker 1: legal problems that can result from it all. And that 404 00:23:57,320 --> 00:23:59,600 Speaker 1: is certainly different than it used to be many years ago. 405 00:23:59,720 --> 00:24:01,800 Speaker 1: When you know, us fifty five year old are sitting 406 00:24:01,840 --> 00:24:05,200 Speaker 1: around the fire, a lot of people had a barroom 407 00:24:05,240 --> 00:24:09,000 Speaker 1: brawl or a high school fight or a fight somewhere 408 00:24:09,080 --> 00:24:10,879 Speaker 1: at some time, and you didn't. 409 00:24:11,000 --> 00:24:12,159 Speaker 2: It's not on your record. 410 00:24:13,280 --> 00:24:18,040 Speaker 1: Somewhere along the way, somebody decided in one over everybody 411 00:24:18,119 --> 00:24:21,440 Speaker 1: else that for everything that ever happens, we have to 412 00:24:21,520 --> 00:24:25,320 Speaker 1: prosecute it and put it on your record. The schools, 413 00:24:26,119 --> 00:24:30,359 Speaker 1: the bars, you name it. And I don't know that 414 00:24:30,480 --> 00:24:33,040 Speaker 1: that's necessarily true. There should be some room for some 415 00:24:33,200 --> 00:24:36,159 Speaker 1: discretion where you can say, all right, you guys have 416 00:24:36,240 --> 00:24:38,719 Speaker 1: both blooded each other's nose at this bar. 417 00:24:39,320 --> 00:24:41,119 Speaker 2: You're both stupid, you're both drunk. 418 00:24:41,920 --> 00:24:44,840 Speaker 1: Call your wives, have them come pick you up, and 419 00:24:44,960 --> 00:24:46,760 Speaker 1: tomorrow send an email saying you're sorry. 420 00:24:46,840 --> 00:24:49,560 Speaker 2: Let's move on. He's eating right now. He can't be 421 00:24:50,600 --> 00:24:53,600 Speaker 2: Michael Berry, Sir, please do not call him the fat picket. 422 00:24:53,640 --> 00:24:56,000 Speaker 2: See I'm trying to be nice. Don't call him a 423 00:24:56,040 --> 00:25:01,680 Speaker 2: fat picky. From the old Number one, The Great Guy Clark. 424 00:25:03,600 --> 00:25:06,920 Speaker 1: Talking about his years as a songwriter in la in 425 00:25:06,960 --> 00:25:14,720 Speaker 1: the early seventies, the Long Beach Freeway that he would 426 00:25:14,800 --> 00:25:20,400 Speaker 1: drive and the frustrations he had. You know, so much 427 00:25:20,520 --> 00:25:25,560 Speaker 1: great art comes from struggle. Many rivers to cross by 428 00:25:25,640 --> 00:25:29,040 Speaker 1: Jimmy Cliff, the story of how he was going back 429 00:25:29,040 --> 00:25:32,840 Speaker 1: and forth from Jamaica to England and when he was 430 00:25:32,920 --> 00:25:34,560 Speaker 1: in one, he would think I should be in the other. 431 00:25:35,320 --> 00:25:38,840 Speaker 1: He was so big in the islands, such a star, 432 00:25:39,520 --> 00:25:42,040 Speaker 1: but he was a big fish in small pond. So 433 00:25:42,240 --> 00:25:47,560 Speaker 1: he would take the boat to England where he was 434 00:25:47,600 --> 00:25:50,400 Speaker 1: the small fish in the big pond and couldn't quite 435 00:25:50,600 --> 00:25:52,480 Speaker 1: make it, but he knew he had to make it 436 00:25:52,600 --> 00:25:55,480 Speaker 1: there to really be what he wanted to be. Just 437 00:25:55,760 --> 00:25:57,520 Speaker 1: didn't want to be the big star in the little 438 00:25:58,320 --> 00:25:59,199 Speaker 1: on the little island. 439 00:26:00,680 --> 00:26:00,960 Speaker 3: And the. 440 00:26:02,880 --> 00:26:08,200 Speaker 1: Challenges and the struggles that you go through as an artist, 441 00:26:08,640 --> 00:26:10,600 Speaker 1: and I think that this one right here is what 442 00:26:10,720 --> 00:26:12,600 Speaker 1: I love about Guy Clark. What I love about that 443 00:26:12,800 --> 00:26:18,679 Speaker 1: style of writing is it's not intended to be high society. 444 00:26:18,880 --> 00:26:24,080 Speaker 1: It's not intended to be Shakespearean. It is very accessible. 445 00:26:24,200 --> 00:26:29,159 Speaker 1: It is the hymming way of songwriting. It's very relatable 446 00:26:29,240 --> 00:26:35,520 Speaker 1: and accessible. It is the short, punchy sentence, very descriptive. 447 00:26:37,160 --> 00:26:41,800 Speaker 1: Himingway said his advice for writers, or write one true word, 448 00:26:41,920 --> 00:26:45,080 Speaker 1: write one true sentence. When you finished with that one 449 00:26:45,280 --> 00:26:49,800 Speaker 1: true sentence, whatever that may be, a heavy set woman 450 00:26:49,920 --> 00:26:54,920 Speaker 1: walked into the room, then pause and write another. And 451 00:26:55,160 --> 00:26:57,960 Speaker 1: just write true sentences that are true to you. And 452 00:26:58,080 --> 00:27:00,520 Speaker 1: once you have strung together a few of them. 453 00:27:00,560 --> 00:27:01,120 Speaker 2: You have a book. 454 00:27:02,040 --> 00:27:06,640 Speaker 1: It's an interesting style. But Guy Clark's writing style, it's 455 00:27:06,760 --> 00:27:10,720 Speaker 1: very different in that sense than some of the traditional 456 00:27:11,600 --> 00:27:14,240 Speaker 1: music of the day that was intended for a bubblegum 457 00:27:14,359 --> 00:27:17,080 Speaker 1: pop audience. And yeah, you had that even then. And 458 00:27:17,160 --> 00:27:20,480 Speaker 1: then of course nineteen seventy two Jerry Jeff Walker sings 459 00:27:20,520 --> 00:27:22,120 Speaker 1: it and makes it famous. I tell you he does 460 00:27:22,119 --> 00:27:24,600 Speaker 1: a very good cover of that is Craigor Gregor does 461 00:27:24,680 --> 00:27:28,960 Speaker 1: a very very good cover of that song. A Houston 462 00:27:29,040 --> 00:27:32,080 Speaker 1: man sentenced for his role in a jugging robbery ring. 463 00:27:33,040 --> 00:27:36,960 Speaker 1: They call themselves the Hiram Clark Money Team. Days after 464 00:27:37,119 --> 00:27:39,639 Speaker 1: robbing an ATM technician in the Dallas area of more 465 00:27:39,640 --> 00:27:42,879 Speaker 1: than two hundred and fifty thousand dollars, a Houston jeweler 466 00:27:42,960 --> 00:27:45,320 Speaker 1: posted a social media of a video of the suspect 467 00:27:45,400 --> 00:27:48,680 Speaker 1: with a stack of cash buying a diamond rolex, a 468 00:27:48,760 --> 00:27:52,560 Speaker 1: diamond necklace, and other jewelry. At the time of his arrest, 469 00:27:52,800 --> 00:27:57,120 Speaker 1: he was on probation in Collin County for aggravated robbery 470 00:27:57,680 --> 00:27:59,760 Speaker 1: and engaging in organized criminal activity. 471 00:28:00,600 --> 00:28:03,000 Speaker 2: Corey DeShawn Holloway, thirty. 472 00:28:03,080 --> 00:28:07,200 Speaker 1: We having Deshaun's at my school, joinving Deshawn's was sentenced 473 00:28:07,240 --> 00:28:09,040 Speaker 1: to more than seven years in federal prison for his 474 00:28:09,160 --> 00:28:11,320 Speaker 1: role in the jugging robbery of an ATM technician in 475 00:28:11,320 --> 00:28:14,600 Speaker 1: the Dallas area. He admitted that during the early morning 476 00:28:14,640 --> 00:28:17,600 Speaker 1: hours of July third of last year, he traveled from 477 00:28:17,600 --> 00:28:19,600 Speaker 1: Houston to Dallas in a rental car with the intent 478 00:28:19,680 --> 00:28:23,480 Speaker 1: to commit robbery. He admitted that after arriving in the 479 00:28:23,560 --> 00:28:26,560 Speaker 1: DFW area, he followed an ATM technician to multiple stops 480 00:28:26,600 --> 00:28:30,160 Speaker 1: as the technician repaired ATMs in Irving, Grand Prairie, Arlington, 481 00:28:30,240 --> 00:28:34,520 Speaker 1: and ultimately mid Lothian, Texas. At approximately five thirty five 482 00:28:34,760 --> 00:28:38,440 Speaker 1: PM on July third, Holloway approached the ATM technician as 483 00:28:38,480 --> 00:28:40,719 Speaker 1: he was servicing an ATM and a Chase Bank located 484 00:28:40,760 --> 00:28:45,800 Speaker 1: in mid Lothian. Mid Lothian, Holloway along with Johnny Juwan Clark. 485 00:28:45,800 --> 00:28:47,400 Speaker 1: We didn't have any Jawan's at my high school. To 486 00:28:47,480 --> 00:28:52,200 Speaker 1: John and Roosevelt Ford Valentine. His mama had high hopes 487 00:28:52,240 --> 00:28:56,800 Speaker 1: for him. Named after two presidents. We're wearing hoodies. Wonder 488 00:28:56,880 --> 00:29:03,120 Speaker 1: why they wear hoodies? One of they wear hoodies. I 489 00:29:03,280 --> 00:29:07,440 Speaker 1: remember a particular case of Trayvon where they said that 490 00:29:07,640 --> 00:29:11,360 Speaker 1: they weren't wearing hoodies for any I know. I think 491 00:29:12,360 --> 00:29:15,840 Speaker 1: people that wear hoodies don't all commit crimes, but a 492 00:29:15,920 --> 00:29:19,760 Speaker 1: certain demographic young black men who commit crimes all seemed 493 00:29:19,800 --> 00:29:23,640 Speaker 1: to wear hoodies. He approached the technician from behind and 494 00:29:23,720 --> 00:29:26,240 Speaker 1: forced him to the ground, kept his fist to the 495 00:29:26,280 --> 00:29:29,520 Speaker 1: back of the victim's head. As canisters containing US currency 496 00:29:29,600 --> 00:29:33,040 Speaker 1: were removed from the atm by Holloway and Valentine. About 497 00:29:33,040 --> 00:29:35,360 Speaker 1: two hundred and sixty thousand dollars in US currency was 498 00:29:35,400 --> 00:29:39,120 Speaker 1: taken during the robbery. Court records revealed that after the robbery, 499 00:29:39,160 --> 00:29:41,040 Speaker 1: Holloway and two of his co defendants fled from the 500 00:29:41,120 --> 00:29:43,600 Speaker 1: Chase bank in the rental car and met co defendant 501 00:29:43,680 --> 00:29:48,640 Speaker 1: Tierra Tunisia Brandyburg. We have these Tunisies at us Yeah, Brandyburg, 502 00:29:48,840 --> 00:29:52,280 Speaker 1: at an apartment complex near the bank. The stolen money 503 00:29:52,320 --> 00:29:54,600 Speaker 1: was loaded into a Range Rover. Oh okay, go on, 504 00:29:54,760 --> 00:29:57,760 Speaker 1: sister girl and driven back to Houston. Were not gonna 505 00:29:57,800 --> 00:30:00,280 Speaker 1: carry the stolen money in a rental car and we're 506 00:30:00,280 --> 00:30:01,800 Speaker 1: gonna put that in a nice card. 507 00:30:01,800 --> 00:30:03,400 Speaker 2: We're gonna put that in a Range Rover. 508 00:30:04,160 --> 00:30:07,400 Speaker 1: Evidence present presented in court revealed it two days after 509 00:30:07,440 --> 00:30:09,640 Speaker 1: the robbery, a jewelry store in Houston posted a video 510 00:30:09,680 --> 00:30:11,680 Speaker 1: on social media of Holloway in the store and possession 511 00:30:12,040 --> 00:30:16,479 Speaker 1: of large quality quantities of cash and purchasing a diamond rolex, 512 00:30:16,520 --> 00:30:20,920 Speaker 1: a diamond necklace, and other as people inappropriately say, jewelry. 513 00:30:21,800 --> 00:30:24,520 Speaker 2: That always amuses me. Let's let's spell this word showy 514 00:30:26,000 --> 00:30:31,240 Speaker 2: j E W makes jw e L makes l r 515 00:30:31,480 --> 00:30:32,200 Speaker 2: y makes. 516 00:30:32,120 --> 00:30:36,920 Speaker 1: Re jew ull ree. But if you spell it j 517 00:30:37,360 --> 00:30:42,920 Speaker 1: U l e R, why you get jewelry? Which has 518 00:30:43,000 --> 00:30:44,680 Speaker 1: nothing to do with that, But that's how most people 519 00:30:44,760 --> 00:30:47,479 Speaker 1: say it. One of them got forty one months, one 520 00:30:47,480 --> 00:30:50,200 Speaker 1: of them got ninety six months. And then old boy, 521 00:30:50,520 --> 00:30:53,800 Speaker 1: how muchhould he get? Not enough that, I'll tell you 522 00:30:54,320 --> 00:30:58,520 Speaker 1: what a dumb ass. Normally you steal the jewelry and 523 00:30:58,720 --> 00:31:01,280 Speaker 1: sell it for cash what you can use for most anything, 524 00:31:02,440 --> 00:31:04,120 Speaker 1: because you have no real use for jewelry. 525 00:31:05,080 --> 00:31:09,320 Speaker 2: You're a hood rat. But these hood rats steal the 526 00:31:09,400 --> 00:31:14,600 Speaker 2: cash and go by jewelry. My goodness, just go to. 527 00:31:14,680 --> 00:31:17,240 Speaker 1: Horror when you jackass. Nobody's gonna believe you're wearing a 528 00:31:17,920 --> 00:31:22,360 Speaker 1: real rolex anyway. And by the way, where are you 529 00:31:22,520 --> 00:31:29,120 Speaker 1: wearing the rolex for the next jugging job? What were 530 00:31:30,560 --> 00:31:32,400 Speaker 1: well what can you tell we're gonna do a sketch 531 00:31:32,440 --> 00:31:35,880 Speaker 1: from the guy. What can you tell us about the guys? Well, 532 00:31:35,880 --> 00:31:36,440 Speaker 1: it was a man. 533 00:31:37,600 --> 00:31:43,120 Speaker 4: He's about eighteen, he's about six two. He was wearing 534 00:31:43,160 --> 00:31:50,920 Speaker 4: a black hoodie, gray shorts, and a Rolex and white 535 00:31:51,040 --> 00:31:56,920 Speaker 4: Nike shoes. And uh, he wore his socks up high, 536 00:31:58,000 --> 00:32:03,760 Speaker 4: white Sox tube socks. Yeah, well, let's give all that, 537 00:32:03,840 --> 00:32:04,800 Speaker 4: but not his skin color. 538 00:32:05,840 --> 00:32:06,960 Speaker 2: Like, where is that guy. 539 00:32:06,920 --> 00:32:10,680 Speaker 1: Wearing a diamond Rolex to a house party? He wears 540 00:32:10,720 --> 00:32:13,000 Speaker 1: it into a house party. Another hood rat puts a 541 00:32:13,000 --> 00:32:14,840 Speaker 1: bullet and it takes his rolex. 542 00:32:15,640 --> 00:32:17,720 Speaker 2: What a culture? What a culture? 543 00:32:18,680 --> 00:32:21,680 Speaker 1: And you wonder how Jasmine Crockett has a serious chance 544 00:32:21,720 --> 00:32:22,480 Speaker 1: at the US Senate. 545 00:32:22,600 --> 00:32:24,120 Speaker 2: Everybody gets representation.